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00:05:26.700But I think that it's kind of, I tried to make my content evergreen so that people like you can go back
00:05:33.640and look at it, whether I'm talking about Kubrick or Rosemary's Baby or the cartels or the West Memphis Three.
00:05:41.640So I think that they're still relevant, and they're kind of little timestamps of my research at any given time.
00:05:48.780Yeah, it's amazing how not only are they relevant, but some might even be more relevant today than they were when you probably recorded it.
00:05:56.180So definitely a good, it's a resource.
00:05:58.200If you're a conspiracy theorist, I would use your podcast as like a major resource to figure out like a little roadmap of where we're going.
00:06:06.900It's interesting you say that, because even this topic that we're going to talk about today, the Catcher in the Rye,
00:06:11.680has changed since I first started researching it, which was another timestamp of April 2024,
00:06:16.740where I had a dispute with a guy online about Catcher in the Rye and Mark David Chapman.
00:06:21.740And he had said, there's not that much of a relationship between Catcher in the Rye and him.
00:06:26.160And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:06:27.780So I went and did a show in 2024, Catcher's in the Rye, where I kind of went in detail,
00:06:33.580which is kind of the basis of this presentation.
00:06:36.080But in that timeframe, you had all these strange killed people, crooks in Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:06:43.920Yeah, Ruth, a very strange person, very much out of the kind of same playbook as Mark David Chapman from Hawaii,
00:06:51.720literally a stone's throw from where Chapman supposedly, quote, worked, unquote.
00:06:56.640And traveling around the world with like suspicious, how are you getting all this money for airfare?
00:09:16.560But so many events and so much TV and repetitive phrases and all these things people are being exposed to goes all the way back really almost to like the turn of the century with Rasputin used hypnotization.
00:09:32.000He knew how to go into deeper stage of consciousness that, you know, this was his involvement influenced the Romanov downfall and the fall of Nicholas II.
00:09:41.540And like the kind of incompetence and like a frail, feeble response to a lot of things.
00:09:48.140So that whole, you know, the Russian Revolution was just bloody as all that guy.
00:09:52.640Hitler knew hypnotization, Hanusen and all these other magicians.
00:09:57.180And yeah, it's been brought to my attention that the the that Hitler had a real fascination with hypnotism.
00:10:05.100And and I think Mengele was doing quite a bit of research in in people with central heterochromia, which is this idea that there's a second ring of color within your eye.
00:10:22.020People suspect that it was something that the Gates program, that MKUltra and that the Nazis were looking for or that at least Mengele was looking for.
00:10:32.020I just know that he allegedly was injecting dumps of of adrenaline into the eyes of his victims to see how the adrenaline played with with that disposition of central heterochromia.
00:10:45.180But we just did an episode where, you know, we're talking all about Kubrick and certainly this like hypnotic aspect that so many people who are in that industry, who look to Kubrick as the example, then set out and try to accomplish themselves.
00:11:03.120And that is like telling a story behind the story and and not telling it to the the conscious mind, but telling it to the unconscious mind.
00:11:11.760Right. Yeah. I mean, I think that that's kind of the potency and power of film, really, is that you're in a kind of a environment without external stimuli and somebody something's coming at you and they can do some pretty incredible stuff.
00:11:29.120But Kubrick probably knew a lot about that.
00:11:31.280I'm sure he did. I know he did because he put it in his films.
00:11:34.380So how do we want to start then, William, with this idea of Catcher in the Rye and how it seemingly connects all these events that are taking place in not only real time, but in our own history as a country?
00:11:46.820Can we can we start at like what the book is?
00:11:48.620I know that I've read it, but I forgot everything in junior high school.
00:12:17.960I did another rereading at my age, 56, after reading a lot about MKUltra and a lot of this kind of secret, you know, secret knowledge of the U.S. government.
00:12:29.240And this book is a shock to me as reading it as an adult.
00:12:33.180I'm in shock that it's even given to children.
00:12:36.340And the reason why it's there is another thing.
00:18:10.500So he, like, that's how it starts off.
00:18:12.460And then he's getting kicked out of school.
00:18:14.200But there's very, like, strange things that, repetitive statements, which we'll see kind of later with some of these MKUltra assassins, do the same thing that he's doing in this book.
00:22:49.920So, these, like, if you're identifying with Holden, these, and it does, like, there's a very strange thing at the very last chapter where he goes back and breaks the fourth wall.
00:24:34.540And Christ exercises these demons into a herd of pigs.
00:24:40.740And the pigs run and drown themselves.
00:24:42.720That's who Holden Caulfield identifies.
00:24:45.000So, this whole notion, a lot of these analysts, a lot of these literary critics, they pass over a lot of these elements in their criticism because I've read them now.
00:25:44.140He breaks – at the end of the book, there's a very short chapter where he's in the mental institution.
00:25:48.720He says – he breaks the fourth wall.
00:25:52.620He's now talking to the person who's read the book and been inside his head, his screwed-up, jumbled head.
00:25:59.600And he goes, I don't know why I'm telling you this, and I don't even know what this means.
00:26:05.160So, there's no – like, at the end of a good – like, a Hallmark card movie or something, there's a wrap-up where everything comes together,
00:26:13.960and all the conflicts are resolved, and everybody goes, this is a nihilistic book.
00:28:24.480Like, that's what – I think that's my takeaway.
00:28:26.320Yeah, so it's like – so they would make you emphasize – or empathize, rather, with this character, and you would see yourself in them to some degree.
00:28:36.960And then when you get to the moment where you would then get some answers, well, how does this character go about dealing with the things that also plague me?
00:28:44.460Well, there is no conflict resolution.
00:28:54.820He says he can lie to people for hours.
00:28:57.420He runs into the mother of one of his schoolmates on the train and just balonies her, uses a fake name, tells these fake stories about him, how great her son is.
00:29:07.100Like, he's just completely balonying her and laughing about it in his internal dialogue.
00:29:12.060So I would say that's not a positive character trait.
00:29:15.020He also says he's a sex maniac, but he's actually sexually frustrated.
00:29:19.020So they create a character who is not – he doesn't have any redeeming – there's nothing redeeming qualities about him.
00:29:31.320He's not an intellectual, successful academic.
00:29:34.080These are all things that aren't there.
00:29:36.600It's strange then that these books would be – or this book would sell as many copies because that sort of storytelling doesn't resonate with the average person.
00:29:45.200It leaves them frustrated and without a conclusion.
00:29:48.080And people like typically – and I don't know for better or worse, but to have a concise wrap-up is – to put an end on it, to put a bow on it is what people want.
00:29:58.600And you can kind of tell right on its face that that is the nature of this book because of what you've said, how many killers this book resonates with.
00:30:08.820Because you can kind of see that train of thought, right?
00:31:59.500I'm sorry to interrupt, but this is, this is fascinating from Arcane Arsenals.
00:32:02.940He says, seems like the sales went to schools like Mac computers.
00:32:06.740And if that is truly the answer there on how a book that doesn't seem to resonate with the average person gets to 60 million sales is because the public school system is buying it in droves and indoctrinating children with it.
00:32:18.280Well, this is like CNN and airports, right?
00:32:22.140Or Disney Plus subscriptions with the USAID.
00:32:27.240That's 700,000 of them that are just paid for by taxpayer funds for whatever reason to make Buzz Lightyear gay or something like that.
00:32:34.580It's interesting because this, in this book are these ideas, this guy, Luce, he runs into Luce at a bar.
00:32:41.360Luce kind of is a direct reference to the Luce family who ran Time Magazine, right?
00:32:45.700And so Henry Luce and his wife, they have an interesting story themselves, but Time Life eventually bought the Zapruder film, right?
00:33:08.700But one of the things Luce says is, like, half of married men are gay.
00:33:13.800And that's another thing that came out of the Rockefeller-supported Kinsey Institute, was this whole notion that heterosexual men are, it's much more normal to have gay relationships.
00:34:03.700So in other narratives, book narratives, you're clearly in, like, looking down at these characters' interplay, war and peace, and, you know, all these sophisticated or complex interrelations between adults and children and, you know, political acts.
00:34:50.700If you, if people have, like, understand kind of mental states and kind of, like, how schismogenesis or, like, how people can be messed with in cults, like, this book will find, you'll find it very disturbing.
00:36:46.280He doesn't seem to hurt for money until the very end.
00:36:49.340But he gets depressed by other people's cheap luggage.
00:36:52.780Which also brings to mind kind of this character of American Psycho, where he's totally obsessed with external, you know, trappings of status or whatever.
00:37:05.120His clothing and his wear and his business card.
00:37:09.980True in what we see, where it's like a lot of the time these people that are committing atrocious acts come from well-to-do backgrounds.
00:37:18.900You know, it's what's given rise to this idea that if you have it all and you raise a child, something about that child is unfulfilled.
00:37:27.080And it turns to, you know, some psychopathic tendencies.
00:37:30.400I have a really important question that I got to get off my chest, which is what the hell does it mean to be a catcher in the rye?
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00:39:14.020And there's a very famous sequence at the very end, which you can go through in the slides, where he envisions himself – and this is kind of like the weird thing about his attachment to children.
00:39:25.320He envisions himself as a guy who's going to be in the rye, helping kids who are running towards a cliff and saving them from going over the cliff.
00:40:16.020And there's a very interesting statement at the very end that's by his guy, Antolini, who is his kind of guy who's trying to hit on him.
00:40:27.700He says something to him like, there's something about you that says you'll die, you'll have a death that is not good for something, a valiant cause or something.
00:40:41.860Like, these are really weird statements in there.
00:40:43.940But it's not – the more I read it, the more I think the narrative is fake.
00:40:49.860It's just the narrative is there to get to import these concepts into the reader.
00:40:54.400Oh, that's a fantastic way to put it, William.
00:40:57.700Because that is what – you know, when we're talking about Kubrick films in this last episode that we did, it seems that – and very many directors have sought to emulate Kubrick's work in their own films.
00:41:12.360And, you know, those things are still coming out today.
00:41:14.060I think two great examples are Kim Kardashian's Santa Baby video and also the film on Netflix White Noise starring Adam Driver.
00:41:23.640Now, these things seek to tell you a message subliminally, but the foreground, the actual content that is the delivery vehicle for this message is, like, kind of nonsensical.
00:41:37.120It's not really like – I mean, not necessarily the case with The Shining or Kubrick films, but certainly the case with the film White Noise, which I think even the title is meant to tell you, like, hey, this is white noise.
00:41:51.300It's really what's going on in the background that you should be paying attention to.
00:41:54.680And the same thing with Kim Kardashian's Santa Baby.
00:41:57.260On its surface, it doesn't even make any sense.
00:41:59.860She's just crawling through a hotel party.
00:42:03.240But all the symbols in the background are telling a different story.
00:42:06.320So is that what you're saying here, William, that even the book The Catcher in the Rye?
00:42:10.340Because it's like I can, just based off of what you're saying, detect that there's no cohesion.
00:42:14.780There's no, like, you know, a logical through line through this book.
00:42:19.320It seems like a lot of it would leave you confused.
00:42:21.640I think one of the most alarming things you're saying about this is that I've definitely read this book, and I don't remember a word of it.
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00:47:13.040And then he's going and he's writing this thing that, I mean, so in that way, we are, we are gearing the works of a pedophile towards the American children in the public education system.
00:47:26.100I think, I think to a certain extent, yes.
00:47:30.760And there's certain things about this relationship between, like I've done a lot of shows on human trafficking, pedophilia, and all these other things.
00:47:39.800A lot of pedophiles in their mind, they're not harming the kids.
00:48:30.900Like at one point, which, you know, maybe in those days isn't that bad.
00:48:34.160But it just seems like if there was a horror element to this storytelling, that this would be akin to like a Stephen King situation.
00:48:42.260Because Stephen King also does that, right, where it's like famously, and it didn't make the cut in the films, but he's depicting a, basically an orgy involving children.
00:49:05.260Yeah, when they're children, they, to defeat the clown, it, Pennywise, they have.
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00:50:07.360Sex with the girl, I forget the thing, her name is Sarah.
00:50:09.840They all have, like, they basically do run a train on her, all the boys, this group of boys.
00:50:14.480Yeah, yeah, and it's like, I don't know what he's trying to say.
00:50:16.920Like, he tried to say that it's like to remove, like, oh, they had to remove their innocence in order to battle this clown and it goes away for some time.
00:50:24.600And then the second book picks up where they're adults and they have to fight it again.
00:50:27.760But something interesting about that book, It, as well, and the book, The Stand, and Needful Things, and Storm of the Century from Stephen King.
00:50:39.880All these books also reference the entity Legion, specifically Pennywise.
00:50:52.240So you have these ideas of pedophilia, this is the idea of Legion, and obviously Stephen King has gleamed a lot from The Catcher in the Rye because those themes come up.
00:51:00.320And then I'm sure we'll get to The Shining, which is like a, that's a Stephen King book, but a Kubrick film that really points right at this book as well.
00:51:42.740So there's these elements across both these books and then this one where it's like there's something about childhood.
00:51:51.280There's something about the there's there's like a I don't want to say a magic associated with it, but there's an age that, you know, a child becomes.
00:52:03.080It's almost like reality and your own mind become a little bit more malleable or maybe it's like your consciousness has reached such a level where your logical mind is kicking in.
00:52:12.560So you can sort of analyze maybe what's been happening to you probably your entire life as a child.
00:52:17.740Because they say like children are on the edge of sort of that that spiritual realm still where they can kind of perceive things.
00:52:25.160And I think that these occultists, the same ones who are writing these books and developing these films in Hollywood, they're they're depicting that in in a very strange way.
00:52:35.800I don't know what it is. It's it's the psyche of a developing child is full of holes.
00:52:42.540It's like riddled with with inconsistencies and and I don't know, they perceive things in a very strange way.
00:52:50.340And I think it is like this. Some people would say like, yeah, you can still sort of see these things like magic is real when you're a child.
00:52:57.600And that element, I think, is what these authors are playing off of.
00:53:02.140But I don't think it's just playing off of. And I think that's clear because this thing ends up going into MKUltra and hypnosis and all these other things.
00:53:09.100So there's something there we're not aware of, but they are.
00:53:13.360Yes, I think so. I think that this is really the time this book came out at the time MKUltra was 53, right?
00:53:21.780So Dullist had this kind of famous speech called Brain Warfare.
00:53:25.980And then a week later, MKUltra 53. But before that, there was a guy at the head of this whole process of kind of mind control.
00:53:34.380His name was Morse Allen. He was working, you know, after OSS.
00:53:38.540So this also Blackbird and Artichoke are taking place before MKUltra get started.
00:53:43.460So this book suddenly pops out right around that time.
00:53:47.120It's very eerie. And they're involved in the culture, the 50s and the Cold War and all this stuff is real.
00:53:54.860And these guys are all Cold Warriors. They are all post-World War II guys.
00:53:58.840They're fighting whatever. And they're also interested in these Manchurian candidates.
00:54:04.380That's where the word comes from is Manchuco or...
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01:58:17.780It quotes directly from Catching the Rye and Chatelain, how interesting he is.
01:58:23.280And by the way, Jared Leto is a guy that emulated Kubrick in his, I would say, probably the greatest hit single of his band, 30 Seconds to Mars.
01:58:32.780The song Kill is an entire homage to the film The Shining.
01:58:49.380Not only did he have, Chapman have like a Catch on the Rye, but he had the Wizard of Oz motif, which is also a known kind of programming book.
02:00:08.420It becomes, you know, difficult because you're trying to imagine who's weaving a web this broad and this long as far as it's stretching back into history.
02:00:21.220Until people who know the inside story, I think.
02:00:24.620But a lot of these words, they don't have the kind of modern potence, like the dirty words that are in there.
02:00:43.420But there's a lot, like snowing is lying, prints, phony, necking is kissing, give her the time is a euphemism.
02:00:52.700Flitty, like he mentions Flitty a lot when he's talking to Luce, Holden does.
02:00:58.860But critical reviews affirm the novel accurately reflected the teenage colloquial speech of the time.
02:01:08.140This is interesting because I like, when I was reading this book kind of like in a paranoid view, I was thinking about the CIA or just intel involved in this.
02:01:17.400The Cultural Cold War came to mind, this book by Francis Stoner Saunders.
02:01:23.100Like a lot of the, like, modern artists totally intel created to create, you know, destabilize the system, to move away from beauty, much like this book, right?
02:01:33.380So, like, this is, like, fits in with the other arts and letters, like, but the other, not visual, this is the literary version of it, right, in my opinion.
02:01:40.640But it is interesting because they mentioned this in the Cultural Cold War.
02:01:47.340And it's basically this thing in counter where they're promoting certain writers, right?
02:01:54.720Or urging Spender to open the literary pages to a new generation of American writers, like Saul Bellow, J.D. Salinger, Truman Capote, or Shirley Ann Ground.
02:02:03.180So, you see that one of these guys who's associated with the CIA is promoting Salinger.
02:02:09.200So, I think there might be more to this story.
02:02:11.540Like, I haven't done all my research about this, but that's basically it.
02:02:25.200Who got their hand on this guy who previously seemingly wrote nothing of real consequence?
02:02:30.780And I'm not saying that people can't have, like, a breakthrough project that they're working on.
02:02:35.560But then, to be of such a nature that mirrors the nature of the intelligence agency's interests of the time, that mirrors the interests of the regime that lost World War II only, you know, how many years before that?
02:02:52.700And then we are rumored to take these people and put them into our institutions.
02:02:57.360And then, just to see it as this through line, there's so many other instances or so many other impactful moments in American history.
02:03:44.700Yeah, and it's like, I don't, we don't know what chemical imbalance somebody might have that reads this book, resonates with them, and then they go and they act this out.
02:04:00.340I mean, what if you could hypothetically create a text-based format that if somebody were to read in their own internal dialogue would accelerate some disposition that they have?
02:04:12.900Because earlier I said that the people that are easiest to hypnotize are those with identity disorders.
02:04:19.560So if you have somebody that you know has trauma, and look, all the way till 2025, now we have an industry that works like a well-oiled machine at diagnosing children.
02:04:31.020So more children now are being diagnosed with identity disorders or trauma-based disorders than ever before.
02:04:37.720And if there truly is a selection process based off of that, that means there's more candidates than ever before.
02:04:42.880So if you have this text that could potentially awaken or hijack your psychology, if you have that disposition, shouldn't we stop letting people – because I know what you're saying, Top.
02:05:11.880The best pieces of entertainment often are, right?
02:05:15.700Yeah, I think there's – I think this is a piece of kind of like that modern Intel culture creation, just like Francis Stoner Saunders wrote about.
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02:11:04.160Even if you're not somebody with those proclivities that doesn't resonate with the character in the Catcher in the Rye, when a world-famous assassin says, by the way, you should read this book.
02:11:16.060If you're at all inquisitive, you go like, what's in that book, man?
02:11:40.740And it compels the bug to drown itself in a body of water so that it can birth into it because it's aquatic.
02:11:46.720Like, yeah, dude, I had to do a psyche cleanse when I read the book as an adult because I know because I'm familiar with a lot of the kind of parapolitical history and secret history of the U.S., which is really the real history.
02:13:20.580But like this will let you know, like some of these people have sinister objectives and they will put really dark stuff into the culture.
02:13:27.780And so, I mean, so maybe that's the inoculation is like.
02:13:30.820Like, maybe I shouldn't just watch everything, you know, whatever they're saying is the greatest music and the creation of culture and creation of these people who out there who are influenced.
02:13:43.060I think I've done shows on the Beatles with Mike Williams, Seja Kwe.
02:13:46.260I used to think the Beatles were just a great band.