Nephilim Death Squad - 129： Flat Earth, Hidden History & The Truman Show Effect w⧸ John le Bon

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00:02:17.980 Welcome to the end of day.

00:02:19.700 Everybody is slaving.

00:02:20.900 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:02:25.100 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

00:02:27.620 And that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

00:02:31.380 Before we get into today's guest, I would like to remind all of our live viewers that this is a 30-minute preview only.

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00:03:06.040 Joining us today is Jon Labon.

00:03:08.220 Jon, for the audience who may not be familiar with you, where can they find your work, and what is it that you focus on?

00:03:15.220 Well, hello to both of you guys and to all your audience.

00:03:18.080 Jon Labon coming to you from beautiful Plovdiv, Bulgaria.

00:03:20.500 I've got a website called jonlabon.com.

00:03:23.200 I've got a YouTube channel with a few thousand subscribers, and I've got – what else have I got?

00:03:30.000 I've got a medium.

00:03:30.820 I've got a Twitter.

00:03:31.920 All the usual stuff.

00:03:32.740 All the boomer stuff.

00:03:33.760 I see that you guys have a TikTok, which shows that you're more progressive than I am.

00:03:37.060 I don't have a TikTok.

00:03:38.640 I've got the website.

00:03:39.800 We just started that up.

00:03:41.520 In fact, I just put my wife, my newly unemployed wife, because we finally do well enough that she no longer has to work, and we've put her in charge of the TikTok as of this morning.

00:03:52.320 So what you've seen there is a very poor attempt at keeping that TikTok page alive over these years or this year.

00:04:00.400 But we're going to really elevate it now.

00:04:02.660 So, yeah, just one of those things.

00:04:03.820 You've got to have your bases covered, right?

00:04:05.080 It's actually funny because when we were starting it, I was like, we need to have all the social media.

00:04:09.560 So I made a TikTok. 0.97

00:04:10.440 I was like, what the fuck is this thing? 0.99

00:04:12.280 And I hate it so much. 0.99

00:04:13.800 So I was just using it to – I was just posting clips, like, passively.

00:04:17.580 I'm like, I don't even put a caption on something.

00:04:19.420 I just put them up there.

00:04:20.600 And I look back, and I was like, hey, there's like a couple thousand people watching this stuff.

00:04:24.440 I was like, maybe we should pay attention to it more.

00:04:25.980 But I hate the way it looks.

00:04:28.160 I hate the way it feels.

00:04:29.600 It makes me feel like – I love Twitter.

00:04:31.280 Twitter is the dumpster of the internet, but TikTok is really the slums.

00:04:36.240 I don't like it.

00:04:37.640 It makes me – it's very mind-controlling.

00:04:39.660 So I stay away from it.

00:04:40.800 But, yeah, we've got to use it more for boomers. 0.94

00:04:43.440 Well, I saw this clip on your TikTok when I was doing my research for this chat.

00:04:47.840 And there's a clip of Owen Benjamin on your show doing his bit about how when people say, oh, if you don't want us to abort the kids,

00:04:55.680 it's because abortion, it seems to be different ethnicities abort their kids at different rates.

00:05:02.080 Yeah.

00:05:02.300 And without getting into the nitty-gritty of that.

00:05:04.160 Statistics there.

00:05:04.860 Yes, it is, isn't it?

00:05:05.940 And so he's got a bit where he says, if people say to me, if we don't abort them, what should we do?

00:05:10.620 His bit is, oh, I'll buy them.

00:05:12.960 And I thought that was rather amusing, that little clip that you uploaded.

00:05:16.780 And it seems to be working.

00:05:17.460 He's also very thoughtful of him, isn't it?

00:05:19.800 I mean, it's a nice gesture.

00:05:21.160 It's like, I value your life.

00:05:22.900 You shouldn't be aborted.

00:05:24.400 I'll pay for you to have a life. 0.59

00:05:27.000 I'll be honest. 0.99

00:05:27.700 Yeah, and he even says he doesn't just want the black kids. 0.80

00:05:29.680 He'll buy anybody's kids, black, white, whatever. 0.97

00:05:31.840 He'll buy them.

00:05:32.420 He'll give them a home.

00:05:33.340 I'm pretty sure –

00:05:34.240 I think he did say that he'd pay more for the white ones.

00:05:35.640 Owen has called me specifically, and he's like, listen, I'm just trying to justify slavery at this point. 0.98

00:05:41.000 And if we can get this going – because he's got to – no, I'm fucking around. 0.94

00:05:45.240 Look at David choking on his cough. 0.98

00:05:46.840 It's hilarious, right?

00:05:48.200 I almost spit it all over the keyboard.

00:05:49.420 The juxtaposition that you put people in when you give them this – like it's like bad choice, worse choice, but you've got to pick one.

00:05:56.340 And if you don't pick, it's like a low IQ answer.

00:05:59.000 It's genius.

00:05:59.760 It creates good comedy.

00:06:00.860 It's why Owen Benjamin is where he's at right now.

00:06:04.980 Just constantly making people – forcing them to make –

00:06:08.760 Yeah, making them uncomfortable, making them make a decision, and making people think.

00:06:12.460 Making them think outside of this box.

00:06:13.920 So, yeah, he's the homie. 1.00

00:06:15.340 He's been on the show a couple of times, been on my other show a couple of times.

00:06:19.740 Love, Owen.

00:06:20.540 Great dude.

00:06:21.720 Well, I know you guys are meant to be the interviewers, and I'm meant to be the guest, but I spent way more time interviewing than as a guest.

00:06:27.900 So, I hope you don't mind if I ask you some questions, including –

00:06:30.400 No, please.

00:06:30.860 How long have you guys been long for?

00:06:31.620 Not allowed, John.

00:06:32.760 Not allowed.

00:06:33.160 When did you first get into all this conspiracy stuff?

00:06:35.180 Oh, God.

00:06:36.500 Here we go.

00:06:37.020 Go ahead.

00:06:37.760 Well, I don't know if you know this.

00:06:38.560 Can I answer for David?

00:06:39.640 David, let me answer for you.

00:06:41.320 I'm going to answer as David, and he can answer as me.

00:06:43.860 So, actually, this is as David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. the Raven.

00:06:47.680 A.k.a. the Raven.

00:06:48.220 Thank you.

00:06:48.300 Yeah.

00:06:49.420 Hold on one second.

00:06:50.240 Let's switch this time.

00:06:51.120 There we go.

00:06:51.460 Actually, I've been a conspiracy theorist for 16 years, and it started when I was very young.

00:06:58.560 My grandmother had a slew of –

00:07:01.620 Since 16.

00:07:02.200 Oh, since 16, right?

00:07:03.360 My grandmother had a slew of abductions, and she wrote a journal about astral projection and remote viewing and things like that.

00:07:11.580 My aunt was a schizophrenic who would talk about this stuff all the time, and I had a slew of experiences.

00:07:17.620 Yes, there we go, 16, they know – I've had a slew of experience, including demonic encounters and stuff like that, which made me look at the current events through the biblical lens.

00:07:25.200 And then one day, I saw this guy Top Lobster online, and he said, do you want to do a show?

00:07:29.700 Now, go ahead and explain my story, David, if you've been listening for the last year.

00:07:33.400 My aunt lacks discernment.

00:07:36.440 My aunt lacks discernment, and she got a hitchhiker, and she put some scissors in the lawn, and now I'm Top Lobster.

00:07:44.060 I'm pretty sure that's the entire – that's exactly how – no, I mean, look, it's – a lot of this is – let's just say this show, we were put together through a Tony Merkel show, The Confessionals,

00:07:57.560 and that's very much a supernatural through the biblical lens kind of a show, and we were both fans of it, started interacting in his members' chat.

00:08:07.980 And then, yeah, one thing led to another.

00:08:10.420 Top was gearing up to launch his own solo conspiracy show.

00:08:14.360 I had just launched my own solo conspiracy show, and, you know, much to his credit, he – we got into a conversation on Twitter, and he goes,

00:08:23.920 oh, you do a show? I'll listen to it, which is wild.

00:08:26.480 Nobody's ever going to – you know, when you first start off doing a show, if you're lucky, you have, like, 15 people who are, like, your aunt, your uncle,

00:08:34.460 your cousins and some friends from high school or something like that will listen to your show.

00:08:39.060 So Top gave it a chance right out of the gate, and then whatever the hell he heard in it, he was like, you know what, I think we could do something here.

00:08:45.280 And so we've only been doing this show, this rendition of it for a year, but, I mean, as far as being a conspiracy theorist, yeah, it's – I don't know, man.

00:08:55.300 And at what point do you turn a corner and you say, I am a conspiracy theorist now?

00:08:59.600 Because I think a lot of people will have some problem one way or another at some point in their life with the official narrative.

00:09:06.140 But at what point do you then become a conspiracy theorist?

00:09:08.740 It's hard to say.

00:09:09.780 What about you, John?

00:09:11.420 Yeah.

00:09:12.080 Well, I was minding my own business.

00:09:14.260 This was back in 2013, and I had decided not to drink alcohol that year.

00:09:19.620 So I was, like, in my mid-20s.

00:09:21.520 So I wasn't drinking alcohol.

00:09:22.640 I was spending way more time on the internet.

00:09:25.580 And one day on some forum, I think it was, like, a football forum or something, someone had linked a video of some other guy going through some photos and some video footage of one of those major events.

00:09:38.180 So, you know, the school shootings and the bombings.

00:09:40.740 And this person was basically saying that this is fake, that these – whether it was the bombing or the shooting that led to the next one, whatever.

00:09:47.500 But, like, it was basically this guy saying these people are actors.

00:09:51.240 It's not real.

00:09:52.400 And, for example, he was showing some footage of someone's trousers, their pants.

00:09:56.420 So this person was in a bombing, a marathon bombing, right?

00:09:59.080 And their pants didn't look like they'd been ripped or torn.

00:10:02.840 They looked like they'd been cut with scissors.

00:10:05.100 Because if you think about it, an explosion ripping your pants, you'd expect it to be a rip rather than a cut, that these pants appeared to be cut.

00:10:13.440 And so he was calling it the trouser bomb.

00:10:15.680 And so I can't remember if it was the bombing that led to the videos about the school shooting or vice versa.

00:10:20.440 But it was those two events that got me into all of this.

00:10:23.180 Because at first I thought, this guy must be taking the piss out of the whole thing.

00:10:27.560 He must be making up the footage.

00:10:29.320 Like, in other words, the review he's doing of the news footage must be fake.

00:10:32.940 He must be using fake – but, no, he was actually analyzing what was meant to be the real stuff.

00:10:37.840 And this was 2013, and then that set me down the so-called rabbit hole.

00:10:42.340 And here we are, what, 12 years later.

00:10:44.840 And I now no longer believe in outer space, dinosaurs, ancient history, to name just a few things.

00:10:53.220 But it all goes back to one day just minding my own business, browsing the internet, if you can believe that.

00:10:58.480 Yeah, for me, it actually started – I mean, so as a child or as a young kid, I was kind of – I grew up in the church.

00:11:07.680 So I was familiar with this –

00:11:08.800 As a young crustacean.

00:11:09.260 As a young crustacean.

00:11:10.440 I grew up in the church.

00:11:11.320 I was familiar with the supernatural and understood this to a certain extent.

00:11:15.240 My family has always had some sort of weird supernatural experiences.

00:11:18.400 So that's like an intro to –

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00:12:35.480 It's not a conspiracy, but I became like a, my social media platform grew when I was sort of in the Libertarian Party

00:12:44.840 and involved with politics and like actually deeply involved with politics in the Libertarian Party.

00:12:49.860 I was doing a lot of work for them, artistic work and producing podcasts and shit like that.

00:12:55.260 And when you're looking at politics from this angle,

00:13:00.480 that like obviously the default standard would be the government's lying to us, right?

00:13:04.300 But most people just stop there and they go, oh, it's, it's about money.

00:13:08.800 It's about fraud.

00:13:09.460 But the more that you like scratch at the surface there, you realize that there's a lot more underneath.

00:13:13.420 And then you start scratching at that surface and you'll find things like this, you know,

00:13:17.380 weird, weird happenings during bombings or false flag events and things like that,

00:13:22.080 where people will stop and go, oh, you know, this just happened.

00:13:25.480 And then maybe it's government, I don't know, maybe it's government malfeasance, like externalities,

00:13:32.040 anti-psychotics that are given to kids.

00:13:34.260 And I'm like, well, maybe it's an MKUltra program, you know, and I started looking deeper.

00:13:37.640 So that kind of, through politics, I have dived even deeper into conspiracy from that angle.

00:13:45.660 And it's given me a good aspect, a good, a good way to view it.

00:13:49.860 And I think that's where I bring some sort of unique looks at the table that come from the political realm,

00:13:56.280 which I'm trying to shed more and more, but it's still a useful tool to understand what's going on.

00:14:01.620 Just, I just don't believe, I don't buy into it anymore.

00:14:04.220 Well, I don't know how old you guys are, but if you're, if you were into libertarianism,

00:14:07.700 then maybe we're from a similar vintage or a similar crop.

00:14:10.800 I was born in 87, so I'm 37 years old.

00:14:12.860 And I remember the Ron Paul revolution.

00:14:15.580 Remember this?

00:14:16.620 Back on Reddit and the internet forums.

00:14:19.480 And this is when YouTube was still new.

00:14:20.760 I think YouTube first began 2005 or 2006.

00:14:24.220 So it was still relatively new.

00:14:25.740 And back then, it was all about Ron Paul, audit, the Fed.

00:14:29.800 This is when, I can see in the background today, actually, for David, you've got Endgame.

00:14:33.460 So that's Blueprint for Global Enslaving. 0.97

00:14:35.220 That was around 2007 as well.

00:14:37.140 So around that time, all of us who were in high school or early university or just in that young adulthood,

00:14:45.160 this was a huge thing on the internet, the Ron Paul revolution.

00:14:48.380 And back then, man, I was so idealistic.

00:14:50.920 I really believed in people, humanity, the future, the internet.

00:14:54.920 We can use the internet to get the word out there.

00:14:57.120 We're going to be a force for change, all this stuff.

00:14:59.540 And here I am now, all these years later, I'm like, well, didn't quite work out, did it, boys?

00:15:04.420 Didn't quite work out the way we hoped.

00:15:06.140 In a way, in a way, like, well, right now, again, I don't really know what to make of these things

00:15:12.180 because I don't trust, I deeply distrust Donald Trump, deeply distrust Elon Musk.

00:15:18.120 But on Twitter right now, Elon Musk is talking to Ron Paul, saying that he's going to put him in charge of auditing the Fed,

00:15:25.440 which really means ending the Fed, if you just take a look at what they're doing.

00:15:28.800 So I'm like, I am at a crossroad of, like David loves to say, politics are theater at the highest level.

00:15:37.560 And I would agree.

00:15:39.400 I'm just questioning now, why are we auditing the IRS?

00:15:43.900 Why are we having a renaissance? 0.98

00:15:45.680 Yeah, why are we, we're about to count the fucking gold in Fort Knox, 0.95

00:15:49.460 which is something, as you know, when I was in the libertarian circles, 0.95

00:15:52.980 these are things that these guys were screaming about for years, free, free Ross Ulbricht.

00:15:56.700 Well, they did all these things.

00:15:57.680 It's like, I don't know where to put this as a conspiracy theorist right now.

00:16:00.980 Yeah, it becomes very strange because, you know, this was very much a conversation we were having 2006, 2007, 2008.

00:16:09.720 You know, I was at Occupy Wall Street, and there was a lot of that sort of libertarian energy there.

00:16:15.280 We went to go audit the Federal Reserve down the street from Zuccotti Park.

00:16:20.060 And then we turned around when we got to the front doors, because it's all just a lot of people indulging in self-importance.

00:16:26.740 So, yeah, we're going to march to the Fed, and we're going to shut it down.

00:16:29.040 And then when we get there, everybody realizes that's retarded, so we all just turn around and go back to Zuccotti Park. 0.99

00:16:35.240 And that conversation gets put on hold.

00:16:37.440 And here we are, you know, almost 20 years later, and all of a sudden it's being resurrected.

00:16:44.500 And I look at the libertarian party pretty skeptically because of the symbolism associated with it.

00:16:49.220 Like, you have this torch, which gives me very much like Lucifer, the morning star, the torchbearer,

00:16:55.700 like the Promethean kind of bringing mankind fire, right?

00:17:01.060 And then you have this idea of like, don't tread.

00:17:04.960 Everything is about libertate, or I'm sorry, what's the word I'm looking for?

00:17:09.720 Liberating yourself, right?

00:17:11.500 And it's like the rebellion, because we look at things through like a biblical lens,

00:17:16.280 and I think the fall of the angels is a theme that is continuing to plague us in one way or another, you know, all the way in 2025.

00:17:25.280 Put a pin in that, David, because he – so, John, you have an issue with ancient history,

00:17:30.100 and I have a feeling that you're not going to agree with some of the theories that we would base our worldview on.

00:17:37.540 I'd love to hear what you think about where David's coming from.

00:17:41.660 No, well –

00:17:42.600 I like it how you say that.

00:17:43.720 I have an issue with ancient history.

00:17:45.560 Yeah, you could put it that way.

00:17:47.020 It's like I hate it.

00:17:47.800 I have a little bit of a bee in my bonnet about so-called ancient history,

00:17:52.640 and I will tell you my theories, and I'll tell you how I arrived at all of this,

00:17:56.560 and hopefully your audience finds it entertaining at the very least, whether they agree with me or not.

00:18:02.220 But before we get to that, I did want to ask you, because I took some notes when I was preparing for our chat today,

00:18:06.640 that opening track that you've got by – is it Vinny Paz?

00:18:10.040 Yes.

00:18:10.300 I'm going to confess I'm not too familiar with this dude.

00:18:13.700 What I started reading his Wikipedia page and looking into the history of him.

00:18:17.200 The lyrics of that track, the lyrics that you guys play in your opening,

00:18:20.700 it includes a line about how we're being ruled by very sick people.

00:18:24.100 Let's get to this.

00:18:25.120 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:25.300 We are a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. 0.94

00:18:31.300 Do you guys believe that? 0.96

00:18:32.400 Do you believe that people who run all of this are sick or evil or demonic, this kind of thing?

00:18:36.920 I would say – well, you could make an argument for actually sick, because I think the royal families engage in a lot of inbreeding,

00:18:43.840 and so there's consequences to that.

00:18:47.100 But I think spiritually sick.

00:18:48.440 I think they're in bed with ancient spiritual entities.

00:18:52.080 And the only variance in that being in bed with them is the degree to which they are aware.

00:18:58.940 Like some people are moved by spiritual forces.

00:19:03.260 They are doing things they think are their own will, not realizing that something has been planting seeds and nudging them.

00:19:09.240 And then there are other people who are engaging in ceremony and ritual and communing purposely with these.

00:19:15.260 And I think it's all compartmentalized.

00:19:16.680 The higher you go, the more they know.

00:19:19.120 But there are degrees to it.

00:19:20.180 The more you go down the ladder, the less they're aware, but they're still movers and shakers and players on the world stage.

00:19:25.520 So, yeah, I would agree with that.

00:19:26.860 Sick maybe because of the inbreeding, but certainly sick spiritually.

00:19:30.200 Well, the reason I ask is because I've been doing this.

00:19:34.360 So, like I said to you, I got into the Ron Paul thing.

00:19:36.060 But to me, that wasn't conspiracy.

00:19:37.200 That was more political.

00:19:38.680 It wasn't until 2013 that I got hit with this crisis actor stuff.

00:19:42.740 So that's where the, if you want to call it conspiracy, that's where that began.

00:19:46.140 But I've been following this internet truth stuff more or less my entire adult life, right?

00:19:52.280 And one of the things I've noticed is that a lot of the people who were here,

00:19:55.340 a lot of them seem to have this idea of we're run by evil forces, demonic forces.

00:20:02.480 A lot of them seem to believe that this place is basically hell.

00:20:05.500 Because if it's evil people who are in charge, just think about this logically.

00:20:09.440 If the world that we're in and the people who make big decisions that we have no real say over,

00:20:14.440 if they're evil, doesn't that mean we're kind of living in hell in a sense?

00:20:19.140 You know what I'm trying to say?

00:20:20.180 So the reason that I would say that's not the case is because,

00:20:24.760 we have these really beautiful moments in between it, right?

00:20:28.000 Like I can hang out with my son at the park and hold my wife's hand

00:20:32.620 and be filled with this overwhelming sense of love and satisfaction.

00:20:36.180 I don't think you're going to get that in a hellscape.

00:20:38.360 I think what happened instead is that we have this thing that is beautiful

00:20:41.800 and over it has been laid a facade, a mask or systems that have been created nefariously

00:20:49.120 and then implemented on this thing that actually has quite a bit of beauty in it.

00:20:54.760 Well, that's a good answer.

00:20:56.340 So I'm going to hit you with something that I wasn't even planning to talk about.

00:20:58.520 But if you're ready for this, let me tell you.

00:21:00.420 Maybe six months ago, maybe eight months ago, it was the summer of last year.

00:21:04.200 I was sitting here and I was reading one of the different forums I like to read every now and then.

00:21:09.960 And someone made a post about basically where we're really living.

00:21:14.420 And I'll see if I can find it and send you guys a link if you want to screen share it or whatever.

00:21:18.260 But basically, let me give you the gist of it.

00:21:21.060 The guy, this guy, I think it was a guy who wrote this, basically wrote,

00:21:24.280 I can tell you where we're really living and everything will make sense.

00:21:27.580 And I was like, I'm open-minded.

00:21:29.460 Let's just give it a try.

00:21:31.080 And if I can summarize what they said, it went like this.

00:21:33.820 This place where we're living in, many of us remember an instant or instances

00:21:39.380 where we thought we were going to die or we thought we should have died,

00:21:44.760 but somehow we survived, whether it is a car accident or some very dangerous situation

00:21:51.680 where we thought maybe some bad stuff was about to go down.

00:21:54.860 Or in his case, it was a drug overdose.

00:21:56.600 Whoever wrote this post, he said he overdosed on drugs and he thought he should have died.

00:22:00.680 But before he knew it, he was back home and he was fine.

00:22:03.180 Didn't die, no long-lasting consequences.

00:22:05.520 But he was certain he was going to die.

00:22:07.100 And what he noticed over the next period of months or years was that

00:22:10.920 a lot of bad things were happening.

00:22:13.360 Friends were getting sick or their kids were getting sick or all this bad stuff was happening.

00:22:18.260 And eventually he realized that he had died and hell isn't some place full of flames

00:22:25.920 and fire and brimstone and some big red devil walking around.

00:22:29.500 It's not like that at all.

00:22:30.760 Hell is simply the life or the world that you wanted to or you thought you were living in.

00:22:35.840 But now bad things are going to keep happening over and over again.

00:22:39.660 Because if you just sent people to a hell where they knew that was in hell,

00:22:43.840 they would start to, like as humans, we can cope, we can adapt, we can rationalize things.

00:22:49.240 Whereas if you think you're not living in hell, but you are,

00:22:51.820 that's when the pain will be felt even more fully.

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00:24:10.260 And so the point that this guy was making was,

00:24:13.120 you might already be living in hell,

00:24:15.080 but hell has to give you a bit of beauty.

00:24:17.480 It has to give you sunsets.

00:24:19.320 It has to give you romance.

00:24:20.480 It has to give you some love.

00:24:21.760 Just enough to keep you emotionally invested in this place,

00:24:24.200 not to end it all.

00:24:25.440 But really, all of the bad things you're seeing,

00:24:28.680 the bad things that happen to you,

00:24:29.920 the bad things that happen to people you care about,

00:24:32.340 this is all a result of you dying in your original real world,

00:24:36.080 and now you've woken up in hell. 0.80

00:24:37.680 That's my summary of what he wrote.

00:24:39.620 And I read that,

00:24:41.080 and I was just sitting here in this exact same seat,

00:24:45.680 and I was like,

00:24:46.900 I'm not going to agree with this guy,

00:24:48.780 but that would make a lot of sense.

00:24:50.460 If that turned out to be true,

00:24:52.300 because I've had experiences where I was like,

00:24:54.260 I should be dead.

00:24:55.480 And then I wake up in my bed.

00:24:56.720 I wake up in my bed relatively safe and sound,

00:24:59.920 and I'm like,

00:25:00.840 firstly, I shouldn't have done whatever I did

00:25:02.280 to end up in that situation.

00:25:03.460 But secondly,

00:25:04.980 how come I got away with it scot-free?

00:25:07.020 And I've spoken with people about this,

00:25:08.700 and a lot of people tell me similar stories.

00:25:11.560 Similar stories where

00:25:12.480 they don't actually know how they lived,

00:25:14.540 but they're still here,

00:25:15.460 and you start to wonder,

00:25:16.800 is there a reason, fellas?

00:25:18.580 Like, is there more to the story?

00:25:21.760 I've heard that in the context of,

00:25:24.360 like, a very similar story,

00:25:25.640 but then the conclusion that the person went to

00:25:29.760 is that they essentially hopped timelines.

00:25:33.300 And I don't know how much I give credence

00:25:35.320 to the sort of timeline thing.

00:25:36.640 I recognize that through Hollywood,

00:25:38.920 we've been inundated a lot lately

00:25:41.140 with this theme of, like, the multiverse

00:25:43.240 and alternative realities.

00:25:48.520 I don't know where I fall on those topics,

00:25:50.800 but I know that I've read enough testimony

00:25:53.500 or been subjected to enough testimony

00:25:55.380 of individuals who have experienced these things,

00:25:57.940 and I don't dismiss people's experiences.

00:26:01.060 I just am critical about the conclusions that they draw.

00:26:05.760 So in other words,

00:26:07.040 I believe, let's say, like a David Icke, for example.

00:26:10.260 David Icke, in his own autobiography,

00:26:15.160 says that he had this moment

00:26:18.540 where he was suddenly the recipient of a download.

00:26:22.720 And it was this gigantic chunk of information.

00:26:27.260 There were disembodied voices,

00:26:28.900 and he came to the conclusion,

00:26:31.360 because of what these things told him,

00:26:33.060 that they are the disembodied spirits

00:26:35.640 of ascended masters from Atlantis.

00:26:38.260 So, like I said,

00:26:40.920 I don't discount people's testimonies.

00:26:42.700 There's no way to prove it right or wrong,

00:26:44.360 so I like to entertain it and think,

00:26:46.240 well, what did this person go through?

00:26:47.720 And my only problem with David Icke in that situation

00:26:49.520 is the conclusion that he came to,

00:26:51.180 which is these entities are not lying to me,

00:26:54.420 and so I will take their nature

00:26:56.280 as they deliver it to me.

00:26:57.960 They are ascended masters from Atlantis,

00:27:00.300 and they're giving me this information

00:27:02.660 for one reason or another.

00:27:03.680 So when somebody says they had that experience,

00:27:05.700 like I don't think that that's untrue,

00:27:09.200 that somebody had something

00:27:10.260 where they thought that they were dying

00:27:12.140 or they thought that they died,

00:27:14.020 but then the next thing they know,

00:27:15.520 they're awakened safely in their own bed.

00:27:18.700 I have heard that several times.

00:27:20.300 It's just then do we need to go to the conclusion 0.72

00:27:22.760 that you're in hell, 0.90

00:27:25.140 or do we need to go to the conclusion,

00:27:26.920 and I'm not saying that this is what you're doing,

00:27:28.900 but it's like as human beings,

00:27:31.440 we're gonna try to wrestle with that

00:27:32.560 and try to understand that,

00:27:33.780 and I don't claim to,

00:27:35.220 but I also don't know if I subscribe

00:27:36.980 to that timeline thing or the multiverse thing.

00:27:39.900 John, do you,

00:27:40.760 so you've told us that you don't believe in outer space.

00:27:45.120 Yeah, you guys cool with that, by the way.

00:27:46.740 I dropped three of things in there.

00:27:48.400 I said the dinosaurs,

00:27:49.460 the outer space, and the ancient history.

00:27:51.340 Usually one or more of those is going to,

00:27:54.140 it's kind of like throwing bait out into the sea.

00:27:56.520 Usually someone's gonna nibble on one of those three.

00:27:58.320 So outer space,

00:27:58.880 where are you guys with the outer space thing?

00:28:00.080 Are you outer space believers,

00:28:02.000 or have you sort of moved past the space?

00:28:04.640 No, no, listen, I don't think.

00:28:06.040 That's a very loaded question.

00:28:07.280 I'm sorry, guys.

00:28:07.900 No, that's a great question.

00:28:08.740 No, no, it's a great question.

00:28:09.020 Where are you with the space?

00:28:10.540 Where are you at?

00:28:11.120 Where are you on the outer space?

00:28:13.160 So I don't know what space is.

00:28:15.720 I know that we can't go there.

00:28:17.060 I know when I look up,

00:28:18.340 we're seeing something,

00:28:20.440 we're seeing some sort of stars,

00:28:21.860 we're seeing something out there,

00:28:23.160 but I definitely know for sure

00:28:25.160 that we cannot get there.

00:28:26.800 Now the question is,

00:28:28.400 this brings the question of aliens

00:28:30.820 and our outer space aliens

00:28:33.220 that come from different light years 0.96

00:28:34.920 and planets and shit like this. 0.77

00:28:36.700 I don't think that that's the case. 0.94

00:28:38.440 I think that what we do see is real,

00:28:40.640 but I think it's interdimensional.

00:28:42.900 We're led to believe

00:28:43.780 that they're coming from far, far away.

00:28:45.580 I just, I don't think so.

00:28:47.300 I don't really know what we're looking at

00:28:48.840 when we look up there.

00:28:49.540 Maybe there are lights.

00:28:51.620 Maybe there is stuff out there,

00:28:52.660 but I know for sure we can't go there. 1.00

00:28:54.680 We can't get off this fucking rock. 0.99

00:28:55.940 Yeah, I've gotten, 0.99

00:28:57.200 oh, I'm sorry,

00:28:57.580 Tapani, are you going to say something?

00:28:59.440 No, I'm just going to say that,

00:29:00.420 like, I think there's a lot more nuance

00:29:04.400 and veracity to the idea

00:29:06.040 of interdimensionality

00:29:07.280 rather than traveling outside.

00:29:11.380 And we can kind of see this

00:29:12.900 through the use of psychedelics,

00:29:14.920 through meditation,

00:29:17.080 through astral projection,

00:29:18.660 through, I mean,

00:29:19.820 even CERN seems to be more concerned

00:29:21.960 about the interdimensionality

00:29:23.160 of this world

00:29:23.700 than whatever we're doing.

00:29:25.200 And we have Elon Musk

00:29:25.940 throwing fake rockets

00:29:26.840 at the firmament.

00:29:28.000 This is not,

00:29:28.840 it's not bearing any fruit,

00:29:30.840 in my opinion.

00:29:31.320 We have a fake moon landing.

00:29:32.520 This has been beaten to death

00:29:34.320 and proven fake over and over.

00:29:36.020 So we have pictures from Mars

00:29:37.480 that claim to be real.

00:29:38.440 And then you find out

00:29:39.140 that they bear striking resemblance

00:29:40.760 to a desert in Nevada.

00:29:42.260 Arizona, yeah.

00:29:42.800 Something like that.

00:29:43.260 I'm saying that because

00:29:45.840 I think when people have

00:29:47.820 these near-death experiences,

00:29:49.960 these views on the other side,

00:29:52.680 there is a,

00:29:53.940 there are layers of interdimensionality

00:29:56.100 in this realm.

00:29:57.560 And this,

00:29:58.600 what we live in right now

00:29:59.580 is created in a way

00:30:00.700 where this is the,

00:30:01.900 this is a physical realm.

00:30:04.040 But there are realms beneath us

00:30:06.300 and above us

00:30:07.080 that have different properties,

00:30:10.060 different dimensionalities.

00:30:11.720 We can go there.

00:30:13.520 We,

00:30:13.980 I mean,

00:30:14.240 people have gone there.

00:30:15.440 They travel to a DMT realm.

00:30:17.080 They experience the same thing.

00:30:18.340 If you take ayahuasca,

00:30:19.300 people will have

00:30:20.120 hallucinogenic trips

00:30:21.380 that mirror each other

00:30:23.680 in the same spot.

00:30:24.440 So that's telling me

00:30:26.700 that there's this idea

00:30:28.180 of the upside down

00:30:29.260 like stranger things.

00:30:30.400 This idea is not just a movie.

00:30:32.660 This is a,

00:30:33.800 it's like a science fiction fact almost.

00:30:37.880 So I like to look at it that way.

00:30:39.920 When,

00:30:40.100 and so when people have these experiences,

00:30:42.340 I start to think

00:30:44.000 they're experiencing something that's real,

00:30:46.280 but where are they going to see this?

00:30:48.580 And what is the actual reality of things?

00:30:51.180 What is the most true reality?

00:30:52.960 Well,

00:30:53.460 I don't know.

00:30:54.220 We live here.

00:30:55.540 Some would say that the most true reality

00:30:57.020 might be wherever the creator resides,

00:31:01.300 a big G God.

00:31:02.700 And then maybe there is,

00:31:04.200 there is a hell.

00:31:05.040 That's a different layer

00:31:06.700 of this interdimensionality

00:31:07.940 where people will go.

00:31:10.640 That's kind of where my brain goes

00:31:12.740 when I think of these things.

00:31:14.020 And I've also gotten to the point

00:31:15.800 where we look at the ancients

00:31:17.600 where we've made a bad habit

00:31:18.800 of looking at,

00:31:20.060 you know,

00:31:20.580 early cultures

00:31:21.420 and their mythos.

00:31:24.220 And we look at them

00:31:25.060 as being less developed

00:31:26.080 or less intelligent.

00:31:27.520 And more and more,

00:31:28.980 I'm starting to think

00:31:29.600 that's not the case,

00:31:30.800 especially given their relationship

00:31:32.980 to their understanding

00:31:34.820 of the stars

00:31:35.800 and celestial bodies.

00:31:37.020 And they,

00:31:39.080 a lot of them built

00:31:39.940 their megalithic structures

00:31:41.400 to mirror,

00:31:42.500 you know,

00:31:42.660 it's like the Great Pyramids

00:31:43.600 are mirroring Orion's belt.

00:31:46.640 They are building these structures

00:31:48.520 around the spring equinox

00:31:50.640 or the winter solstice

00:31:52.020 and everything has this

00:31:53.560 astronomy bent to it.

00:31:55.720 And so all of,

00:31:58.440 there's so many of them,

00:31:59.600 I shouldn't say all of them,

00:32:00.440 but so many of these

00:32:01.140 ancient civilizations

00:32:02.040 depicted almost like a realm

00:32:04.620 that seemed to be stacked

00:32:05.940 on top of other realms

00:32:07.620 in a way

00:32:08.120 and encased with a firmament.

00:32:10.160 And even the firmament thing

00:32:11.460 is like,

00:32:12.520 you know,

00:32:12.900 how can I shake my head

00:32:14.200 at that?

00:32:14.880 Werner von Braun,

00:32:15.920 who's a Nazi 0.70

00:32:17.420 that we borrowed

00:32:18.140 and he created NASA.

00:32:20.560 Borrowed that Nazi. 0.82

00:32:21.700 Who borrowed that Nazi. 0.86

00:32:22.840 And when he died,

00:32:23.740 he put,

00:32:24.720 you know,

00:32:25.880 a biblical reference

00:32:28.380 on his tombstone

00:32:29.340 that when you look it up

00:32:30.380 is about the firmament.

00:32:31.660 God showed with his

00:32:32.340 handiwork in the firmament.

00:32:33.880 So when you watch

00:32:35.740 Elon Musk launch his rockets,

00:32:38.420 I can't lie.

00:32:39.920 I mean,

00:32:40.080 I'm not,

00:32:40.520 you know,

00:32:41.360 an aerospace engineer

00:32:42.500 or anything like that.

00:32:43.780 But if I look up,

00:32:44.740 it looks like

00:32:45.420 these objects

00:32:46.280 are crashing against

00:32:47.860 the surface of water.

00:32:50.940 And,

00:32:51.120 you know,

00:32:52.000 I don't know what that means

00:32:52.960 or what to make of it,

00:32:54.100 but I know that it's been

00:32:55.060 hinted at so often.

00:32:56.160 It's like when you have

00:32:56.640 in the Truman Show,

00:32:57.660 right,

00:32:57.900 where he basically

00:32:58.780 escapes the firmament.

00:33:00.560 He finds the edge of it

00:33:01.600 and he,

00:33:02.480 you know,

00:33:02.800 leaves through an exit door.

00:33:04.760 I just kind of feel like

00:33:06.200 we're throwing the baby out

00:33:08.160 with the bathwater

00:33:08.740 when it comes to

00:33:09.260 our interpretation

00:33:09.900 of what the ancients

00:33:10.700 did or didn't know.

00:33:11.940 And there's a lot

00:33:12.760 of conjoining material

00:33:13.760 between all these

00:33:14.460 different civilizations

00:33:15.220 that kind of say

00:33:15.880 the same thing.

00:33:16.940 And we ridicule it.

00:33:19.520 I don't know

00:33:20.240 if it should be ridiculed.

00:33:22.520 Well,

00:33:22.880 you know,

00:33:23.040 he's doing some ridiculing

00:33:24.020 in the live stream chat.

00:33:25.020 Emily says that space

00:33:26.360 is fake and G.

00:33:28.800 I don't know if we can use

00:33:29.540 the other word that she used. 0.91

00:33:30.460 Say whatever you want.

00:33:31.100 John,

00:33:31.380 also,

00:33:31.740 please feel free to ignore Emily.

00:33:33.160 She's a bane of our existence. 1.00

00:33:34.460 Yeah, 1.00

00:33:34.600 she's a terrible person. 0.98

00:33:35.480 Well, 0.97

00:33:37.020 I'm on the same page

00:33:37.920 as Emily.

00:33:38.360 She says that space,

00:33:39.300 dinosaurs,

00:33:39.740 and evolution

00:33:40.200 are all F and G. 0.97

00:33:41.880 So,

00:33:42.160 I'm glad to see that,

00:33:43.600 Emily.

00:33:43.840 Good on you.

00:33:44.480 By the way,

00:33:44.980 I'm not even on the YouTube

00:33:46.040 right now.

00:33:46.440 Are you guys streaming

00:33:46.980 on YouTube?

00:33:47.540 How many live viewers

00:33:48.480 have we got

00:33:48.840 for this first half hour?

00:33:50.000 Right now,

00:33:50.700 we're at closing in

00:33:52.080 on 400.

00:33:53.740 Wowie.

00:33:54.540 Well,

00:33:54.740 hello to all the viewers.

00:33:55.800 I'm still new

00:33:56.420 to these guys here.

00:33:57.300 I found your show,

00:33:58.480 The Nephilim Death Squad, 0.50

00:33:59.260 through Human Vibration.

00:34:01.000 And that was

00:34:01.460 a terrific interview.

00:34:03.120 She's great.

00:34:03.480 I'm going to give both of you credit.

00:34:05.040 I should have said this

00:34:05.540 at the beginning.

00:34:06.580 You two know how to do an interview

00:34:07.840 where you ask the guest questions

00:34:09.500 and listen.

00:34:10.740 Do you know how rare that is

00:34:11.740 in this day and age,

00:34:12.360 at least so far as I can tell?

00:34:13.800 A lot of the people I follow,

00:34:15.480 the interviewers seem to get guests

00:34:16.900 on the show

00:34:17.440 just to tell the guest

00:34:19.180 the same story

00:34:20.360 they told the guest last week

00:34:21.860 and the week before.

00:34:23.200 I do a fair bit.

00:34:23.760 Whereas you guys just let,

00:34:24.820 you let HV just speak

00:34:27.300 on her JonBenet Ramsey stuff

00:34:28.840 and I thought it was terrific.

00:34:30.240 But the thing is,

00:34:30.940 getting me on the show here,

00:34:31.880 because we're sort of starting

00:34:32.800 from scratch here,

00:34:33.380 I don't know where you guys are at.

00:34:34.760 Hi, I'm Darren Marlar,

00:34:36.020 host of the Weird Darkness podcast.

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00:35:34.840 With different topics,

00:35:36.120 we're kind of still in that

00:35:37.120 sort of feeling out stage of the process.

00:35:39.420 We're sort of,

00:35:40.060 what do these guys know?

00:35:41.500 Where are we going to be on the same page?

00:35:43.280 And the out-of-space stuff

00:35:44.700 is an important one

00:35:45.680 because if somebody still believes

00:35:47.660 they're a little speck of dust

00:35:49.220 living on a giant spinning ball

00:35:50.720 going around the sun,

00:35:51.920 hurtling through space

00:35:53.240 at breakneck speeds,

00:35:54.260 the infinite vastness of space,

00:35:56.300 I can relate to that

00:35:57.700 because I used to believe that

00:35:58.620 up until about 10 years ago.

00:36:00.240 I just believed this stuff

00:36:01.420 without question.

00:36:03.540 And then about 10 years ago

00:36:05.480 to the month really,

00:36:07.220 this guy called Mark Sargent

00:36:08.620 comes along

00:36:09.240 and he's got this YouTube series

00:36:11.040 called Flat Earth Clues Part One.

00:36:14.040 And the first one is called

00:36:15.160 Empty Theater.

00:36:16.960 Now I'm sure you guys are familiar

00:36:18.160 with Mark Sargent

00:36:19.000 and the whole flat earthing

00:36:20.240 circa 2015.

00:36:21.140 I am not familiar with Mark Sargent

00:36:22.360 or that idea of empty theater.

00:36:24.460 That's fascinating.

00:36:25.400 Could you give us a little bit of that?

00:36:27.340 Well, okay.

00:36:27.840 So this guy, Mark Sargent,

00:36:29.360 he comes along

00:36:30.220 and he uploads this video series.

00:36:31.600 This is 2015.

00:36:32.640 So I'm still pretty new.

00:36:33.520 I only started YouTubing 0.99

00:36:34.560 at the end of 2014.

00:36:35.960 So a few months after

00:36:36.980 I started YouTube and podcasting,

00:36:39.400 mostly on politics

00:36:41.180 and the fake shootings and bombings.

00:36:43.060 That was as advanced

00:36:44.320 as I was at that time.

00:36:45.840 A few months later,

00:36:46.700 this Mark Sargent comes along

00:36:47.860 and he uploads this video series

00:36:49.500 called Flat Earth Clues

00:36:50.740 and the first one of the series is,

00:36:53.220 it's called Empty Theater

00:36:54.180 and he talks about

00:36:55.580 how few films there are

00:36:57.380 that have been made from Hollywood

00:36:59.460 to do with either

00:37:01.400 the moon landing itself

00:37:02.880 or on the moon.

00:37:05.580 And I'd never really thought about it,

00:37:07.320 but his point is basically,

00:37:08.820 you think of all the films,

00:37:09.980 like Hollywood produces

00:37:10.780 so many films.

00:37:11.760 Is it thousands of films?

00:37:12.600 Yeah, I don't know.

00:37:13.200 They produce so many films

00:37:14.380 on so many different things,

00:37:16.040 but this amazing human achievement,

00:37:19.400 putting men,

00:37:19.920 like that's an amazing achievement.

00:37:20.960 If it's real,

00:37:21.780 that is phenomenal.

00:37:23.360 Putting a man on the moon,

00:37:24.380 a bunch of men actually,

00:37:25.620 they're playing golf,

00:37:26.480 they're driving dune buggies

00:37:27.500 and there just aren't

00:37:28.920 that many movies about it.

00:37:30.460 That is strange.

00:37:31.520 And so his point was,

00:37:32.960 the reason for that

00:37:33.960 is because if they made

00:37:34.960 a Hollywood film showing

00:37:36.040 the so-called moon landing,

00:37:38.620 it might cause people

00:37:39.480 to revisit the footage

00:37:40.740 of the supposed real moon landing

00:37:42.780 and see how amateurish it is.

00:37:44.940 So anyway,

00:37:46.060 Mark Sargent,

00:37:46.820 this Flat Earth guy

00:37:47.500 makes this massive splash.

00:37:49.520 His YouTube videos

00:37:50.220 start going viral.

00:37:51.840 People start interviewing him

00:37:53.240 and then within days

00:37:55.040 of his first upload,

00:37:55.960 this guy called Jaronism

00:37:56.820 comes along

00:37:57.440 and Jaron's like this cool,

00:37:59.500 I don't know where he's from,

00:38:00.260 but he kind of talks

00:38:00.800 like a cool sort of,

00:38:02.460 you know,

00:38:02.840 surfer dude,

00:38:03.860 easy to relate to,

00:38:04.720 I guess,

00:38:05.020 for younger people.

00:38:06.240 And so he starts doing

00:38:07.240 these live streams

00:38:08.340 and the whole Flat Earth thing

00:38:09.760 got big.

00:38:10.620 So what first put my channel

00:38:12.260 on the map

00:38:12.940 and first got my first,

00:38:14.800 like I had maybe 500 subscribers

00:38:16.220 for the first few months

00:38:16.940 I was doing this.

00:38:18.040 Then I started interviewing

00:38:19.140 the Flat Earthers

00:38:19.720 one by one

00:38:20.540 on a weekly show.

00:38:22.000 It was called

00:38:22.640 the Ball Earth Skeptic Roundtable

00:38:24.300 and I interviewed

00:38:25.260 Mark Sargent,

00:38:26.600 Eric Dubé,

00:38:28.060 Stars Our Souls,

00:38:29.000 Wakey Wakey, 0.78

00:38:29.760 all of the big names

00:38:31.020 in Flat Earth

00:38:32.000 at that time,

00:38:33.020 I was interviewing them

00:38:33.960 on a weekly basis.

00:38:36.380 And even though

00:38:36.800 I'm not a Flat Earther

00:38:37.720 and I wasn't a Flat Earther,

00:38:39.160 I was giving them

00:38:39.860 a chance to present

00:38:40.660 their arguments,

00:38:41.540 to present their beliefs

00:38:42.500 and I was being

00:38:43.540 very cordial with them

00:38:44.500 largely because

00:38:45.500 I agree with them

00:38:46.100 space is fake.

00:38:47.180 So we've got something very,

00:38:48.820 it seems like a very important

00:38:49.800 thing to have in common.

00:38:50.460 We don't believe in space.

00:38:51.660 They believe in Flat Earth,

00:38:52.660 I don't.

00:38:53.320 But let's do a weekly show

00:38:54.260 and we did that

00:38:54.940 and for a little YouTube channel

00:38:57.000 it was relatively successful

00:38:58.320 and then what followed that

00:39:00.200 and I didn't expect this,

00:39:01.420 didn't see it coming

00:39:02.020 but it all makes sense

00:39:02.700 in retrospect,

00:39:03.960 a whole bunch of other channels

00:39:04.980 popped up

00:39:05.500 and started doing their weekly shows

00:39:07.460 about Flat Earth

00:39:08.000 and before you knew it,

00:39:08.680 Flat Earth took over the internet.

00:39:09.660 So maybe you guys

00:39:11.140 weren't following it closely

00:39:11.980 but do you remember

00:39:12.440 how this happened back in 2015?

00:39:13.840 Flat Earth just took over,

00:39:15.220 took over YouTube,

00:39:16.140 took over Twitter,

00:39:17.160 took over conspiracy forums.

00:39:18.900 It all became Flat Earth

00:39:19.760 2015,

00:39:20.540 10 years ago.

00:39:21.320 Do you guys remember this?

00:39:22.620 Yeah,

00:39:22.800 I don't personally remember it too much

00:39:24.640 but I recognize that

00:39:26.400 the rhetoric has become

00:39:27.620 such that now people say,

00:39:29.060 yeah,

00:39:29.220 in 2016 and such,

00:39:31.740 the PSYOP began.

00:39:33.040 So people look to it,

00:39:33.980 you know,

00:39:34.200 if you're a Flat Earth denier,

00:39:36.920 people say that's when

00:39:37.600 the PSYOP began.

00:39:38.440 I mean,

00:39:38.780 I don't know where I fall on it.

00:39:40.380 I empathize greatly

00:39:41.480 because NASA lies a lot.

00:39:44.480 Well,

00:39:44.900 I still to this day feel,

00:39:46.960 maybe guilt is not the right word

00:39:48.280 but I played a role

00:39:49.960 in all of that.

00:39:50.800 I was,

00:39:51.300 so you look at these

00:39:52.120 Eric Dubais,

00:39:52.920 these Mark Sargent,

00:39:53.740 these David Weiss,

00:39:55.040 David Weiss was on

00:39:55.960 the Alex Jones show

00:39:56.840 a few months ago.

00:39:58.240 David Weiss was one of my

00:39:59.240 panelists on that show,

00:40:00.360 the Ballerskipic Roundtable.

00:40:01.820 It was myself,

00:40:02.660 David Weiss,

00:40:03.320 and another dude 0.95

00:40:03.920 and the three of us

00:40:04.540 would interview

00:40:05.080 all of these Flat Earthers 0.96

00:40:06.340 one by one.

00:40:06.920 We were the first ones

00:40:07.820 to do that

00:40:08.440 and then after 12 weeks

00:40:09.960 of that series,

00:40:10.960 I was like,

00:40:11.340 okay,

00:40:12.020 I think we've looked

00:40:13.140 into this topic enough.

00:40:14.280 We get the arguments,

00:40:15.840 time to move on.

00:40:17.240 I had no idea

00:40:18.040 that this was here to stay.

00:40:19.520 So David Weiss

00:40:20.320 stuck with this

00:40:21.300 and he's now

00:40:22.520 got his Flat Earth app

00:40:23.920 and he's making good money

00:40:25.400 from the looks of things.

00:40:26.600 He's going on

00:40:27.060 the Alex Jones show,

00:40:28.080 he's friends with Eddie Bravo.

00:40:29.760 He's really taken this

00:40:31.620 and done a very good job,

00:40:32.840 I suppose,

00:40:33.820 you know,

00:40:33.980 to look at it one way.

00:40:35.080 But that all goes back

00:40:36.180 to this Baller Sceptic

00:40:37.180 Roundtable

00:40:37.620 on the John LeBond

00:40:38.220 YouTube channel

00:40:38.760 back in 2015.

00:40:40.460 As crazy as that sounds.

00:40:41.680 So to all the people

00:40:42.720 out there

00:40:43.100 who are sick

00:40:43.600 of the Flat Earth

00:40:44.260 and are sick

00:40:45.180 of all of this nonsense

00:40:46.240 who feel like

00:40:47.340 the Flat Earth thing

00:40:47.940 has ruined

00:40:49.020 or besmirched

00:40:49.800 the conspiracy theory

00:40:51.380 subculture,

00:40:51.940 to all of you

00:40:52.440 lovely people,

00:40:52.940 I say,

00:40:53.980 I'm sorry.

00:40:54.820 I had no idea.

00:40:56.780 I didn't know

00:40:57.740 it was going to go like,

00:40:58.860 really,

00:40:59.240 I meant well.

00:41:00.200 I really meant well.

00:41:01.920 John,

00:41:02.540 I mean,

00:41:02.840 don't blame yourself.

00:41:05.020 We had guys like

00:41:05.900 L.A. Marzulli

00:41:06.780 and we're releasing

00:41:10.700 his episode today.

00:41:11.980 Gary Wayne.

00:41:12.660 Gary Wayne.

00:41:13.700 These guys were

00:41:14.720 standing on the shoulders

00:41:15.860 of giants.

00:41:16.520 Literally,

00:41:16.880 they're talking about

00:41:17.560 the Nephilim

00:41:17.980 and then we come along

00:41:19.020 talking about the Nephilim

00:41:20.340 and I'm sure that they see this

00:41:21.460 and they go, 1.00

00:41:22.000 fuck. 1.00

00:41:23.500 Yeah. 1.00

00:41:23.660 it's fine.

00:41:27.880 When you introduce

00:41:28.580 something into the ether

00:41:29.620 and there's something to it,

00:41:32.360 it's going to blow up

00:41:32.980 and it's going to

00:41:33.600 eventually fall out

00:41:34.560 of your hands

00:41:34.960 so it's not your fault.

00:41:36.380 That's the thing.

00:41:37.220 It's like,

00:41:37.700 when I look at the

00:41:38.360 Flat Earth community,

00:41:39.220 I mean,

00:41:39.460 there is some of that.

00:41:41.280 I won't lie.

00:41:42.300 There is a little bit

00:41:43.180 of contention

00:41:45.460 or something

00:41:46.000 of the like

00:41:46.900 when I look over

00:41:47.640 and I see

00:41:48.360 everybody kind of

00:41:50.120 freaking out about it

00:41:50.880 and it becomes this topic

00:41:52.680 that takes over

00:41:53.980 and then

00:41:54.800 it's kind of the mark.

00:41:57.180 You know what I mean?

00:41:57.700 In the sense that

00:41:58.740 it's a litmus test.

00:42:02.160 Do you believe in

00:42:02.780 Flat Earth

00:42:03.240 is now a litmus test?

00:42:04.380 And

00:42:04.560 I've looked into it 0.92

00:42:06.880 but I'm far too retarded 0.97

00:42:08.280 to be able to really grasp 0.93

00:42:09.840 especially when everybody

00:42:10.800 starts going into

00:42:11.620 like these calculations

00:42:12.640 and like the mathematics

00:42:13.800 don't check out

00:42:14.720 and the dimensions

00:42:15.580 of the planet

00:42:16.180 that are given to us

00:42:17.340 by like NASA

00:42:18.040 are

00:42:18.800 for some reason

00:42:20.800 riddled with like 666.

00:42:23.100 That's something

00:42:23.740 that I was

00:42:24.300 exposed to

00:42:25.460 probably early

00:42:26.460 in this show

00:42:27.100 or maybe it was

00:42:27.900 my other show

00:42:28.400 The Raven's Watch

00:42:29.060 but either way

00:42:29.620 there's so much

00:42:31.240 that eludes me.

00:42:32.660 You know,

00:42:32.880 I don't have the ability

00:42:34.060 to grasp it

00:42:34.740 and something about it

00:42:35.700 almost feels

00:42:36.260 a little bit boring.

00:42:37.080 However,

00:42:38.520 when I look at

00:42:39.020 what NASA does

00:42:39.960 and all these composites

00:42:41.740 CG renderings

00:42:43.200 every time

00:42:45.020 they show you

00:42:45.840 Earth from outer space

00:42:47.100 the continents

00:42:47.620 are like

00:42:48.860 wildly varying

00:42:50.080 in size

00:42:50.840 doesn't even make

00:42:52.120 any sense

00:42:52.600 and if you start

00:42:53.660 thinking about

00:42:54.180 how much money

00:42:54.780 we give them

00:42:55.420 I look at

00:42:57.260 NASA much more

00:42:58.440 of like a propaganda

00:42:59.200 arm

00:42:59.640 or an arm

00:43:00.620 of the propaganda

00:43:01.200 machine rather

00:43:02.040 and so

00:43:03.140 I'm pretty comfortable

00:43:04.280 in my assessment

00:43:06.080 of NASA

00:43:06.600 and so you could

00:43:08.660 see how that

00:43:09.260 is a very easy

00:43:10.640 jump to be like

00:43:11.420 well if NASA

00:43:11.960 is lying

00:43:12.660 in so many

00:43:14.040 different ways

00:43:14.720 and they are

00:43:15.500 the ones that are

00:43:16.020 feeding us

00:43:16.420 this narrative

00:43:17.060 well

00:43:18.120 you feel compelled

00:43:19.840 to throw away

00:43:20.420 the entire narrative

00:43:21.320 and as far as

00:43:22.000 my own eyes

00:43:22.840 can determine

00:43:23.620 we're on a flat

00:43:24.600 stationary plane

00:43:26.340 you know

00:43:27.540 every time I see

00:43:29.080 a video

00:43:29.520 about how

00:43:30.560 much curvature

00:43:31.960 should be measured

00:43:32.780 over X amount

00:43:33.960 of miles

00:43:34.560 and therefore

00:43:35.960 when you look

00:43:36.820 through a telescope

00:43:37.440 or whatever

00:43:38.240 you shouldn't be

00:43:38.920 able to see

00:43:39.660 this you know

00:43:41.520 land mass

00:43:42.680 across the ocean

00:43:43.500 you shouldn't be able

00:43:44.540 to see the base

00:43:45.120 of this ship

00:43:45.680 you shouldn't be able

00:43:46.260 to see the base

00:43:46.880 of this building

00:43:47.760 and yet given

00:43:48.500 a good enough camera

00:43:49.380 you can zoom in

00:43:50.740 and you can see

00:43:51.360 the base of

00:43:52.220 of these buildings

00:43:53.700 that you shouldn't

00:43:54.180 be able to see

00:43:54.680 so then they start

00:43:55.380 just moving

00:43:55.960 the goalposts

00:43:57.420 well the math

00:43:57.900 you know

00:43:58.120 the equations are wrong

00:43:59.140 our mathematics

00:44:01.140 in regards to like

00:44:02.400 curvature per mile

00:44:03.480 are off

00:44:04.440 we need to adjust it

00:44:05.260 I'm like okay

00:44:05.680 that's great

00:44:06.300 so I guess I'll just

00:44:07.320 wait until you come

00:44:08.100 up with a new formula

00:44:08.980 and then we'll look

00:44:10.460 to see if we can see

00:44:11.140 the base of that

00:44:11.660 building again

00:44:12.320 you know so

00:44:13.020 I've not delved

00:44:14.920 into it deeply

00:44:16.620 but John I mean

00:44:17.720 considering you

00:44:18.600 started the conversation

00:44:20.600 in very many ways

00:44:21.340 where do you fall

00:44:21.940 on it these days

00:44:22.640 well you sound

00:44:24.180 to me Dave

00:44:24.820 and I mean this

00:44:25.300 with the greatest

00:44:25.760 of respect

00:44:26.440 you sound like

00:44:27.440 one of those

00:44:28.040 I'm not a flat earther

00:44:29.240 but kinds of people

00:44:31.000 yeah

00:44:31.580 that's what it sounds like

00:44:33.120 me too

00:44:33.660 and I know you have to

00:44:34.460 I know you have to

00:44:36.040 end the stream soon

00:44:36.880 for the public upload

00:44:37.840 and then the full upload

00:44:38.820 goes to your patrons

00:44:39.740 can I tell your patrons

00:44:41.040 in the second part

00:44:42.020 of this conversation

00:44:42.680 if these two

00:44:43.860 lovely hosts

00:44:44.400 will let me

00:44:44.900 I'll get into more

00:44:45.840 detail about why

00:44:46.620 I think history

00:44:47.680 is a hoax

00:44:48.620 ancient Egypt

00:44:49.640 ancient Greece

00:44:50.280 ancient China

00:44:50.840 never existed

00:44:52.300 and I'm not one

00:44:53.400 of those people

00:44:53.800 who just says things

00:44:54.700 like clickbait

00:44:56.000 or just outrageous

00:44:57.360 so many conspiracy

00:44:58.300 people just say

00:44:58.780 outrageous stuff

00:44:59.380 to get attention

00:44:59.860 that's not what

00:45:00.960 I'm doing

00:45:01.220 I've got the documents

00:45:02.140 so I'll explain

00:45:03.000 why history is a hoax

00:45:03.920 if they want

00:45:04.780 we can talk about

00:45:05.380 my documentary

00:45:06.020 where I went

00:45:06.540 into the middle

00:45:07.000 of Australia

00:45:07.520 to find the

00:45:08.660 so-called dinosaurs

00:45:09.740 and what I found

00:45:11.360 shook me to the depths

00:45:12.920 of my miserable soul

00:45:14.720 and I'll explain

00:45:15.960 what I think

00:45:16.460 this place really is

00:45:17.660 that'll all be

00:45:18.480 in the second part

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00:47:32.480 so okay

00:47:34.180 before we go on though

00:47:35.320 John

00:47:35.600 I do want to get

00:47:36.620 your thoughts a little bit

00:47:38.180 on like

00:47:38.640 you know

00:47:40.100 this narrative

00:47:41.900 has evolved greatly

00:47:43.000 over the past decade

00:47:44.840 right because 2016

00:47:46.320 it's 2025 now

00:47:47.800 so this thing's been

00:47:49.120 going for a while

00:47:50.020 a lot of people

00:47:50.780 think it's a PSYOP

00:47:51.640 we just had that big thing

00:47:53.300 where they went out

00:47:53.940 to Antarctica

00:47:54.760 and they tried to

00:47:56.040 prove their model

00:47:57.520 and apparently

00:47:58.980 that failed

00:47:59.620 but does that inherently

00:48:00.400 mean that the Earth

00:48:01.280 is then

00:48:01.860 a spinning globe

00:48:03.540 that rotates

00:48:04.460 around a giant

00:48:05.080 gas ball

00:48:06.000 in the middle

00:48:06.500 of outer space

00:48:07.060 not necessarily

00:48:07.740 just means that

00:48:08.460 the model

00:48:09.500 that they were

00:48:09.900 working with

00:48:10.500 doesn't exist

00:48:11.540 the way they thought

00:48:12.520 it does

00:48:12.780 so where do you

00:48:13.560 fall out of it

00:48:13.980 these days?

00:48:15.220 Yeah so that thing

00:48:15.640 was called

00:48:16.040 the final experiment

00:48:17.620 and I interviewed

00:48:19.240 the guy

00:48:19.600 because I've got

00:48:19.980 my website

00:48:21.260 johnthebond.com

00:48:21.960 but I've got

00:48:22.280 an interview based

00:48:23.120 podcast as well

00:48:23.900 which is separate

00:48:24.560 where I get

00:48:25.420 different guests

00:48:25.920 on the show

00:48:26.320 when we have

00:48:26.700 a back and forth

00:48:27.580 me and the guest

00:48:28.680 so I interviewed

00:48:29.800 Will Duffy

00:48:30.460 who was the

00:48:31.320 the host

00:48:31.880 the organizer

00:48:32.540 of the final

00:48:34.180 experiment

00:48:34.940 and basically

00:48:36.180 what he did

00:48:36.740 was he said

00:48:37.320 these flat earthers

00:48:38.560 who are claiming

00:48:39.180 you can't go

00:48:39.680 to Antarctica

00:48:40.180 that's not true

00:48:41.600 if you spend

00:48:42.560 about $30,000

00:48:43.540 there's companies

00:48:45.000 who will take you

00:48:45.700 to Antarctica

00:48:46.260 and not only this

00:48:47.720 the flat earth

00:48:48.660 yeah it's not

00:48:49.220 it's not cheap

00:48:49.760 but still

00:48:50.580 it can be done

00:48:51.380 because a huge part

00:48:52.380 of the flat earthing

00:48:52.940 when they first started

00:48:53.780 was they had

00:48:54.620 what they called

00:48:55.200 a hundred proofs

00:48:56.420 of flat earth

00:48:57.080 or two hundred proofs

00:48:58.580 of flat earth

00:48:59.200 and one of them

00:49:01.200 or one of the

00:49:02.480 multiple variations

00:49:03.520 was you can't go

00:49:05.020 to Antarctica

00:49:05.620 as in it's off limits

00:49:07.360 if you try to go

00:49:08.240 some navy will stop you 1.00

00:49:10.640 someone will stop you

00:49:11.400 so Will Duffy

00:49:12.400 was coming along

00:49:12.960 to basically say

00:49:13.640 that's not true

00:49:14.760 you can go

00:49:15.620 and then the flat earthers

00:49:16.920 were saying

00:49:17.380 if you go there

00:49:18.320 there's no midnight sun

00:49:20.180 in Antarctica

00:49:20.860 so if you go to

00:49:22.500 any northern country

00:49:24.240 including say Estonia

00:49:25.840 where I've been

00:49:26.580 in the summertime

00:49:27.380 the sun either

00:49:28.580 doesn't set

00:49:29.320 or if you're

00:49:30.600 just a little bit

00:49:31.440 south of that region

00:49:32.540 the sun will set

00:49:33.820 but only for a couple

00:49:34.360 of hours

00:49:34.820 why?

00:49:35.860 because on the ball model

00:49:36.960 in the summertime

00:49:38.140 the direction

00:49:39.200 that the earth

00:49:39.660 is facing

00:49:40.120 the sun never really

00:49:41.600 gets out of that

00:49:42.780 field of view

00:49:43.520 for want of a better term

00:49:44.880 I'm not using

00:49:45.300 the technical terminology

00:49:46.300 but you get the idea

00:49:47.060 now on the ball model

00:49:48.480 the exact same thing

00:49:49.600 should happen

00:49:50.020 in the south

00:49:51.620 if you go far enough south

00:49:53.180 the day should either be

00:49:54.600 a 24 hour day

00:49:55.860 or the sun

00:49:56.800 should only set

00:49:57.300 for an hour or two

00:49:58.040 depending how far south

00:49:59.140 you go

00:49:59.340 so the flat earthers

00:50:00.220 were denying that

00:50:00.940 that was saying

00:50:01.360 you can't go to Antarctica

00:50:02.340 and even if you could

00:50:04.260 there's no midnight sun

00:50:05.940 because on their map

00:50:07.180 or their model

00:50:07.740 whatever you want to call it

00:50:08.580 it's kind of like a dish

00:50:10.060 there's no way

00:50:11.320 so that can account

00:50:11.980 for the midnight sun

00:50:12.740 in the north

00:50:13.140 there's no way

00:50:14.080 it can account

00:50:14.580 for the midnight sun

00:50:15.340 in the south

00:50:15.940 so that was saying

00:50:16.720 it doesn't exist

00:50:17.540 so Will Duffy

00:50:18.920 this final experiment guy

00:50:20.060 said

00:50:20.360 let's find out

00:50:21.960 I'll pay for my ticket

00:50:23.440 and I'll pay for

00:50:24.500 a flat earthers ticket

00:50:25.440 let's go

00:50:26.680 and so to cut a long story short

00:50:28.620 they went

00:50:29.220 and they were able

00:50:31.020 to get to Antarctica

00:50:31.840 and they documented

00:50:33.560 a midnight sun

00:50:34.940 in Antarctica

00:50:35.700 exactly as the ball model

00:50:37.780 would predict

00:50:38.500 and then of course

00:50:39.980 some of the leading

00:50:40.600 flat earthers said

00:50:41.380 that it was all fake

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00:51:37.300 it was fake footage

00:51:38.920 it was done

00:51:39.340 on a green screen

00:51:40.000 whatever

00:51:40.960 but what really

00:51:41.960 mattered

00:51:42.260 was the flat

00:51:43.200 earther's response

00:51:44.140 in the lead up

00:51:45.160 to the final experiment

00:51:46.360 so remember

00:51:46.980 at this point

00:51:47.980 they've been saying

00:51:48.860 for nine years

00:51:49.720 you can't go to

00:51:50.800 Antarctica

00:51:51.140 there's no midnight sun

00:51:52.080 when someone came

00:51:53.080 along and said

00:51:53.600 I'm going to Antarctica

00:51:54.660 I think there might

00:51:55.840 be a midnight sun

00:51:56.500 all of a sudden

00:51:57.560 the story's changed

00:51:58.340 to oh well

00:51:59.340 there could be

00:51:59.940 a midnight sun

00:52:00.580 but we've got

00:52:00.920 this other explanation

00:52:01.640 so when you see

00:52:02.580 someone changing

00:52:03.080 their story so rapidly

00:52:03.820 you know this person 0.75

00:52:04.540 is probably bullcrap 0.92

00:52:05.340 that's exactly 0.97

00:52:06.340 what happened

00:52:06.800 so whether people

00:52:07.740 believe the final

00:52:08.620 experiment was real

00:52:09.440 or it was filmed

00:52:10.200 on a Hollywood studio

00:52:11.780 whatever they think

00:52:12.640 what matters is

00:52:13.160 the flat earther's response

00:52:14.200 and it revealed

00:52:15.360 who these people

00:52:15.760 really are 1.00

00:52:16.240 they are clowns 1.00

00:52:17.200 fools and charlatans 1.00

00:52:17.860 in my personal opinion 1.00

00:52:19.140 and I know

00:52:19.980 that's going to lose

00:52:20.600 a lot of viewers

00:52:21.560 they're going to say

00:52:22.200 well forget this JLB

00:52:23.220 hi I'm Darren Marlar

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00:53:23.600 whatever that's

00:53:24.560 that's up to them

00:53:25.120 but for me

00:53:25.600 I expected there would

00:53:27.000 be a midnight sun

00:53:27.640 because the ball model

00:53:28.740 makes sense

00:53:29.260 there was a midnight sun

00:53:30.680 and the flat earth

00:53:31.600 has changed their stories

00:53:32.540 because their stories 0.99

00:53:33.900 are bull crap 0.99

00:53:34.320 so I don't know 0.99

00:53:35.240 if that explains

00:53:35.800 enough to you

00:53:37.100 but that's where

00:53:37.420 I'm coming from

00:53:37.920 with all this

00:53:38.400 the final experiment

00:53:39.400 should have put

00:53:40.000 this whole thing to bed

00:53:40.700 do you know Dustin Nemo's

00:53:42.640 these days do you find yourself

00:53:43.680 oh that's a great question

00:53:44.580 go on top

00:53:44.920 yeah yeah it seems like

00:53:45.860 you're talking about

00:53:46.440 Dustin Nemo's specifically

00:53:47.500 because I thought that his

00:53:48.740 his criticism of it

00:53:51.580 where he's like

00:53:52.200 oh well look at the

00:53:53.140 perspective of the shadows

00:53:54.480 I was like yeah

00:53:54.960 well it looks like

00:53:55.580 you know I mean

00:53:56.240 that's that's how light

00:53:57.080 would react

00:53:57.860 if a light source

00:54:00.180 is closer

00:54:00.800 or further away

00:54:01.900 it would cast shadows

00:54:03.020 in a certain angle

00:54:03.820 so yeah I don't

00:54:05.220 I don't know

00:54:05.720 what to think about

00:54:06.500 what I think is

00:54:08.520 what I think is

00:54:09.920 it seems like

00:54:10.620 it's not

00:54:11.380 what they're telling us

00:54:12.360 it's not round

00:54:13.240 in the sense

00:54:13.900 that they're telling us

00:54:14.580 and maybe it's not flat

00:54:16.360 in the

00:54:17.140 well maybe the map

00:54:18.800 is not correct

00:54:19.520 or maybe the

00:54:20.360 the way that they're

00:54:21.980 predicting the sun

00:54:22.680 goes around

00:54:23.360 is not correct

00:54:24.360 but somebody's lying

00:54:25.620 it's it's

00:54:26.680 a certain shape

00:54:27.540 but we're certainly

00:54:28.060 not round

00:54:28.900 flying through space

00:54:30.140 so what do you

00:54:31.300 fall out of these days

00:54:32.500 John

00:54:32.740 so have you guys

00:54:34.720 flown you

00:54:35.320 probably sound like

00:54:35.980 you're American

00:54:36.440 have you flown

00:54:37.240 to other parts

00:54:37.940 of the world

00:54:38.360 in an airplane

00:54:39.040 no I am completely

00:54:40.500 uncultured

00:54:41.260 and have gone

00:54:42.620 virtually nowhere

00:54:43.520 I have

00:54:45.540 that's a good response

00:54:46.260 okay so

00:54:46.980 and I'm not asking

00:54:48.080 this to be a smart

00:54:48.640 I'm just asking

00:54:49.140 because I thought

00:54:49.560 you would say

00:54:50.000 probably you have

00:54:50.580 but that's okay

00:54:51.440 if you were to fly

00:54:53.080 to Asia

00:54:53.760 or to Europe

00:54:54.540 or whatever

00:54:54.960 you would be told

00:54:56.540 your flight's going

00:54:57.180 to take a certain

00:54:57.700 period of time

00:54:58.240 and if you were then

00:54:59.800 to map that

00:55:00.860 on a ball model

00:55:01.800 you would find

00:55:02.420 it makes sense

00:55:03.140 at the speed

00:55:04.060 this these planes

00:55:05.240 this airplanes

00:55:06.080 supposedly fly

00:55:06.800 that flight time

00:55:08.060 makes sense

00:55:08.600 and I've flown

00:55:09.440 all over the world

00:55:10.000 I've been to Africa

00:55:10.740 Asia

00:55:11.220 I'm living in Europe

00:55:12.140 now I'm from Australia

00:55:13.100 I've been all over

00:55:13.880 and all of the flights

00:55:15.460 I've taken

00:55:15.920 have taken as long

00:55:17.040 as I said

00:55:17.580 they all make sense

00:55:18.980 on a ball model

00:55:19.640 and anyone can try this

00:55:21.540 go to

00:55:22.240 flight center

00:55:24.460 website

00:55:25.280 just find out

00:55:26.440 how long are they

00:55:27.060 claiming it takes

00:55:27.620 to get from

00:55:28.180 New York

00:55:29.140 to London

00:55:30.600 or from Los Angeles

00:55:31.860 to Sydney

00:55:32.420 or from anywhere

00:55:33.440 to anywhere

00:55:34.020 find out how long

00:55:35.700 it takes

00:55:36.160 and then see if that

00:55:37.760 fits the ball model

00:55:38.560 and you will find

00:55:39.560 that they do

00:55:40.160 all of the flights do

00:55:41.740 now if someone

00:55:42.760 hasn't taken the flights

00:55:43.740 they can say

00:55:44.160 oh but maybe

00:55:44.580 they're fake flights

00:55:45.380 I've taken enough flights

00:55:46.940 I think these are legitimate

00:55:48.580 the flights all make sense

00:55:50.160 on a ball model

00:55:50.860 why

00:55:51.660 because this realm

00:55:52.420 that we live in

00:55:53.000 whatever it is

00:55:53.820 can be modeled

00:55:55.280 with a ball

00:55:55.820 doesn't mean we live

00:55:56.960 on a ball

00:55:57.480 but a ball model

00:55:58.460 can explain the flights

00:55:59.520 it can explain the sun

00:56:00.800 the moon

00:56:01.100 the stars

00:56:01.460 explains all of it

00:56:02.140 doesn't mean

00:56:02.760 our space is real

00:56:03.540 doesn't mean we're on a ball

00:56:04.740 going around the sun

00:56:05.580 doesn't mean any of that

00:56:07.020 but in terms of

00:56:07.960 what we can observe

00:56:09.260 with our eyes

00:56:10.040 and what we can experience

00:56:11.460 it all makes sense

00:56:12.680 on a ball model

00:56:13.320 and for some people

00:56:14.720 that's too complicated

00:56:15.440 because they don't understand

00:56:16.700 the map is not the terrain

00:56:17.860 so suppose you come to Plogdiv

00:56:19.800 I live in Plogdiv, Bulgaria

00:56:20.740 this is the second largest city

00:56:22.700 in Bulgaria

00:56:23.080 and they say

00:56:24.380 there's 300,000 people here

00:56:25.800 I don't know if that's true

00:56:26.620 but it's a small city

00:56:27.320 if you were to come

00:56:28.320 and visit me here

00:56:28.960 which many people have done

00:56:30.280 and you said to me

00:56:31.500 JLB

00:56:32.120 where is the nearest

00:56:34.200 place where

00:56:36.300 cute girls dance 0.99

00:56:37.460 I would say

00:56:38.180 well I don't know

00:56:38.720 I'd never go to such a place

00:56:39.780 and then I'd say

00:56:40.860 actually come here

00:56:41.560 and I'd draw you a little map

00:56:42.580 and I'd say

00:56:43.340 okay you go down that road there

00:56:44.500 you turn left

00:56:45.580 at the yellow bank

00:56:46.440 you keep walking down there

00:56:47.920 then you turn right

00:56:48.880 at the intersection

00:56:49.540 walk 50 meters

00:56:50.760 that's what you're looking for

00:56:52.620 right

00:56:52.860 now if you took

00:56:53.380 my little piece of paper

00:56:54.180 and you followed my directions

00:56:55.540 and it worked

00:56:56.220 you would say

00:56:57.080 that this map is accurate

00:56:58.040 even though you don't live

00:56:59.720 on a piece of paper

00:57:00.540 you live on earth

00:57:02.140 now you're in Plogdiv

00:57:02.980 a map is just a model

00:57:04.820 it's a framework

00:57:05.620 and if it is accurate

00:57:07.020 then it's good

00:57:07.620 so it is with the ball model

00:57:09.240 the ball model is accurate

00:57:10.480 doesn't mean you live on a ball

00:57:11.980 just like my little piece of paper

00:57:13.600 to get to show girls 0.98

00:57:14.920 doesn't mean you live on a piece of paper

00:57:16.540 but does the map work

00:57:17.760 yes it does

00:57:18.300 there you go

00:57:19.140 so the map is not the terrain

00:57:20.380 I'm not saying we live on a ball

00:57:21.840 I'm saying the best model

00:57:23.480 is a ball

00:57:24.580 and to me

00:57:25.540 this is a very straightforward concept

00:57:27.040 but even intelligent people

00:57:29.420 even when I go through this process with them

00:57:31.720 explain that to them

00:57:32.560 very similar to how I just explained it to you

00:57:34.380 they come back to me with

00:57:35.780 but does that mean you think we live on a ball

00:57:38.220 and I'm like okay

00:57:39.080 did you just listen to what I said

00:57:39.940 I'm saying the best model

00:57:41.180 I'm telling you

00:57:42.820 I've been through this

00:57:43.280 I've been through this exact process

00:57:44.640 with so many people

00:57:45.380 the normies

00:57:46.700 the regular people

00:57:47.560 these people who just get up

00:57:48.740 brush their teeth

00:57:49.820 go to work

00:57:50.540 do whatever the boss says

00:57:51.480 come home

00:57:51.860 drink some beers at home

00:57:52.620 go to bed

00:57:53.060 these normal people

00:57:54.100 who lead normal lives

00:57:54.820 I don't expect anything from them

00:57:56.460 they're just normal people

00:57:57.220 but these intelligent people

00:57:59.460 these people who seem intelligent

00:58:00.600 they seem thoughtful

00:58:01.360 when they can't understand

00:58:03.640 the basic concept

00:58:04.680 like the map is not the terrain

00:58:06.060 when they can't understand this stuff

00:58:08.160 I realize

00:58:08.840 it is basically a waste of time

00:58:11.940 and I now believe

00:58:12.980 most people

00:58:13.920 including most so-called awake people

00:58:15.440 they're effectively non-player characters

00:58:17.800 they're effectively bots

00:58:18.840 it's not their fault

00:58:19.520 it's just the nature of this realm

00:58:21.240 that we live in

00:58:21.780 most people

00:58:22.760 don't really think

00:58:24.760 they just parrot

00:58:25.780 that's all they can do

00:58:27.200 so then I come along

00:58:28.460 and I say

00:58:28.900 okay

00:58:29.320 these people parroting

00:58:30.800 that we live on a giant ball

00:58:31.920 going around the sun

00:58:32.660 they're just parroting

00:58:33.680 what I was told in school

00:58:34.420 or what Neil deGrasse Tyson said

00:58:35.740 who by the way

00:58:36.360 I've seen him live

00:58:36.900 I can tell you a story

00:58:37.440 if you want to hear about that

00:58:38.100 but they just parrot

00:58:38.980 what they're told about us

00:58:39.840 being on a ball

00:58:40.400 going around the sun

00:58:40.880 they're just parrots

00:58:41.560 these other people

00:58:43.060 who come to me

00:58:43.520 and they say

00:58:43.920 oh JLP

00:58:44.800 don't you know

00:58:45.840 water can't stick to a ball

00:58:47.300 how come the

00:58:48.380 aeroplane pilots

00:58:49.600 don't dip the nose

00:58:50.600 these people are just parroting

00:58:52.200 flat earth talking points

00:58:53.360 to me

00:58:53.500 there's no thinking

00:58:54.400 going on you see

00:58:55.260 and to understand

00:58:56.640 the abstraction

00:58:57.380 of the model

00:58:58.640 the framework

00:58:59.480 the map is not the terrain

00:59:00.240 this requires thinking

00:59:02.100 which most humans

00:59:03.440 don't want to do

00:59:05.160 they think they do

00:59:06.320 but they don't

00:59:07.040 and they won't

00:59:08.000 and that's how it is

00:59:09.220 so I'm not sure

00:59:10.540 if that explains it

00:59:11.320 no I mean it's left me

00:59:14.340 with more questions

00:59:15.140 but it does make

00:59:15.860 a lot more sense

00:59:17.100 because I've been thinking

00:59:19.020 a lot now about

00:59:19.880 well you know

00:59:22.240 this final experiment

00:59:23.460 it doesn't disprove

00:59:25.000 it being flat

00:59:26.760 or the shape of

00:59:27.560 but what it does disprove

00:59:28.720 is the map

00:59:29.620 and what you're saying

00:59:30.820 right now makes a lot of sense

00:59:31.900 like yes this round map

00:59:33.860 does make a lot more sense

00:59:35.320 as far as like travel times

00:59:36.680 and the way things

00:59:37.480 things will react

00:59:38.960 but a thought in my head

00:59:40.740 that I've always had

00:59:41.500 is as we travel

00:59:43.640 as we travel

00:59:45.260 let's say I'm traveling west

00:59:47.300 because we're in Florida

00:59:48.240 so let's say I'm traveling

00:59:49.180 to California

00:59:49.920 if I travel at a specific speed

00:59:52.140 going west

00:59:53.000 time doesn't even really change

00:59:55.240 because they're three hours

00:59:56.920 behind us right

00:59:57.740 so

00:59:58.340 isn't that like a form of

01:00:00.980 time travel

01:00:02.460 what are we doing

01:00:03.360 metaphysically

01:00:04.280 if we are moving

01:00:05.880 across

01:00:07.180 this

01:00:08.540 this plane

01:00:10.360 whatever it is

01:00:11.220 with time

01:00:12.640 like technically

01:00:13.820 if I can move with the sun

01:00:15.160 the entire time

01:00:16.080 does that change the shape

01:00:17.400 of what I'm moving on

01:00:18.380 like were we ever supposed to

01:00:20.840 were we ever supposed to be able

01:00:22.060 to move in such a way

01:00:23.260 across the earth

01:00:25.160 or were we supposed to be

01:00:26.800 in one spot

01:00:27.300 I don't even know man

01:00:28.380 it's there's so many questions

01:00:29.900 well what's what's clear

01:00:31.700 is this has become

01:00:32.640 almost

01:00:34.000 a thorn in the side

01:00:35.780 of the

01:00:36.480 like the truth or community

01:00:38.180 because it seems to be

01:00:40.000 a stopping point

01:00:40.800 for people who

01:00:42.180 you know

01:00:43.140 as as somebody who

01:00:44.240 self-identifies

01:00:45.680 as a conspiracy theorist

01:00:46.820 what I think I'm really saying

01:00:49.000 is

01:00:49.500 I am fascinated

01:00:51.720 with the nature

01:00:52.400 of reality

01:00:53.720 and

01:00:54.580 so

01:00:55.560 that encompasses

01:00:56.480 like all these things

01:00:57.980 but there are people who

01:00:59.360 were right there

01:01:00.460 alongside with me

01:01:01.540 and then saw fit

01:01:02.700 to just basically stop

01:01:03.880 at this flat earth

01:01:05.400 that earth thing

01:01:06.200 and

01:01:06.420 I said earlier

01:01:07.720 that I have

01:01:08.200 quite a bit of empathy

01:01:09.040 for those people

01:01:10.000 because

01:01:10.520 you know

01:01:12.680 at a rudimentary level

01:01:14.060 it's clear we're being lied to

01:01:15.320 about most things

01:01:16.380 right

01:01:16.600 so the education system

01:01:17.600 is propped up

01:01:18.180 to lie to us

01:01:18.780 about our own history

01:01:19.680 and

01:01:20.040 egregious lies too

01:01:21.360 egregious lies

01:01:22.200 yeah

01:01:22.420 like

01:01:22.720 like vicious ones

01:01:24.080 yeah

01:01:24.880 and

01:01:25.900 so when

01:01:26.640 when people then

01:01:27.340 start to speculate

01:01:28.020 about the nature

01:01:28.700 of the

01:01:29.700 the realm

01:01:30.700 that we inhabit

01:01:31.460 meaning the physical body

01:01:33.060 that we're standing on

01:01:34.000 and you look at the authorities

01:01:36.200 on that information

01:01:37.680 and you kind of go

01:01:38.740 well this

01:01:39.180 has shady beginnings

01:01:40.660 and

01:01:41.120 and

01:01:41.560 a shady

01:01:42.760 you know

01:01:43.840 existence consistently

01:01:45.240 throughout it

01:01:45.740 and by that I mean

01:01:46.640 NASA

01:01:46.960 I don't

01:01:49.400 fault people

01:01:50.120 but I just don't know

01:01:51.260 why it's this big

01:01:52.080 sticking point

01:01:52.860 for people

01:01:53.720 like

01:01:53.980 I do suspect

01:01:55.340 or not suspect

01:01:56.620 I would not be surprised

01:01:58.260 if

01:01:59.720 you know

01:02:00.300 we were eventually

01:02:01.340 the recipients

01:02:03.240 of some form of disclosure

01:02:04.360 that said

01:02:04.860 we were wrong

01:02:05.900 and

01:02:07.040 it does seem to be

01:02:08.000 that the earth

01:02:08.480 is the center

01:02:09.020 of whatever

01:02:10.260 this is

01:02:11.280 everything else

01:02:11.900 you know

01:02:12.300 moves around it

01:02:13.440 in some way

01:02:14.000 shape or form

01:02:14.820 because I almost suspect

01:02:17.020 that the reason

01:02:17.620 that narrative

01:02:18.120 was given to us

01:02:19.040 was to

01:02:19.560 if it's not real

01:02:20.340 the idea

01:02:21.300 that we

01:02:21.660 you know

01:02:22.280 revolve around

01:02:22.760 the sun

01:02:23.040 and such

01:02:23.440 is to

01:02:25.060 diminish

01:02:25.580 our importance

01:02:26.800 and as somebody

01:02:27.540 who believes

01:02:28.140 in God

01:02:28.680 the importance

01:02:30.020 is of that nature

01:02:31.040 it's like

01:02:31.820 why were we

01:02:32.340 created

01:02:32.680 who created

01:02:33.300 us

01:02:33.660 and

01:02:34.220 you know

01:02:35.120 what does

01:02:35.380 this all mean

01:02:36.000 and

01:02:36.640 Sam Tripoli

01:02:37.460 puts it

01:02:37.840 really well

01:02:38.420 he's like

01:02:39.040 sometimes I think

01:02:40.300 that NASA

01:02:40.880 is to convince

01:02:42.520 you of

01:02:43.140 way out there

01:02:44.280 and

01:02:45.060 and dinosaurs

01:02:46.580 are to convince

01:02:47.640 you of way

01:02:48.360 back then

01:02:49.000 so it gives

01:02:50.080 like an

01:02:51.020 xy axis

01:02:51.940 to this dimension

01:02:52.840 that you can

01:02:53.440 now travel on

01:02:54.860 and it kind of

01:02:56.380 makes it feel like

01:02:56.940 the theories are

01:02:57.500 much more concrete

01:02:58.220 than they actually

01:02:58.880 are so

01:02:59.440 but

01:03:00.600 once you get into

01:03:01.900 the minutiae

01:03:02.320 of all that detail

01:03:03.180 and we're talking

01:03:03.840 about like I said

01:03:04.680 curvature

01:03:05.100 and whether or not

01:03:06.180 this plane

01:03:06.680 dips its nose down

01:03:07.760 whether or not

01:03:08.400 you know

01:03:08.860 we can go

01:03:09.460 regurgitate

01:03:10.380 these talking points

01:03:11.100 whether or not

01:03:11.620 a sniper

01:03:12.300 takes into

01:03:12.840 consideration

01:03:13.340 the curvature

01:03:13.840 of the earth

01:03:14.420 when he

01:03:14.840 you know

01:03:15.200 shoots a target

01:03:15.880 that's very far

01:03:16.540 away

01:03:16.880 or

01:03:17.200 whether or not

01:03:18.960 you're heading

01:03:19.340 in one direction

01:03:20.180 and and time

01:03:21.700 is one way

01:03:22.280 but then when

01:03:22.680 you're heading

01:03:23.000 against the spin

01:03:23.960 of the earth

01:03:24.560 should not

01:03:25.340 your trip

01:03:25.800 be shorter

01:03:26.340 because the earth

01:03:27.020 is rotating

01:03:27.480 like I don't

01:03:28.460 even begin

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01:04:29.800 to grasp these

01:04:30.860 concepts in any

01:04:32.660 way that's

01:04:33.760 meaningful

01:04:34.080 I'm not going to

01:04:34.900 be the guy that's

01:04:35.440 going to give you

01:04:35.760 those answers

01:04:36.240 and because of

01:04:37.360 that my speculation

01:04:38.980 kind of stops

01:04:40.300 there

01:04:40.560 if this earth

01:04:41.780 is like

01:04:42.300 this is actually

01:04:43.620 a decent map

01:04:44.460 to pull up

01:04:44.920 for this

01:04:45.240 but if this

01:04:46.520 earth is

01:04:47.140 if there are

01:04:50.260 portals in this

01:04:51.320 earth

01:04:51.600 and dimensions

01:04:53.000 why

01:04:53.980 why wouldn't

01:04:54.680 it be

01:04:54.960 flat

01:04:55.400 and

01:04:55.800 round

01:04:56.620 at the

01:04:57.080 same

01:04:57.260 time

01:04:57.540 but

01:04:57.740 kind of

01:04:58.300 like

01:04:58.460 laid out

01:04:58.860 like this

01:04:59.260 so when

01:04:59.540 you get

01:04:59.820 to these

01:05:00.260 these

01:05:01.220 thin points

01:05:02.080 here

01:05:02.420 it just

01:05:03.060 like

01:05:03.300 I don't

01:05:03.520 know 1.00

01:05:03.660 fucking 1.00

01:05:04.080 meets you 1.00

01:05:04.640 there

01:05:04.820 like

01:05:04.980 we have

01:05:05.260 a

01:05:05.400 Bermuda

01:05:05.760 triangle

01:05:06.240 where

01:05:06.820 stuff

01:05:07.060 disappears

01:05:07.480 we have

01:05:07.780 the

01:05:07.940 33rd

01:05:08.420 parallel

01:05:08.800 where

01:05:09.540 strange

01:05:10.660 things

01:05:10.940 happen

01:05:11.240 these

01:05:11.440 are

01:05:11.540 like

01:05:11.700 weird

01:05:11.960 vector

01:05:12.300 points

01:05:12.620 on

01:05:12.960 the

01:05:13.120 earth

01:05:13.400 why

01:05:14.700 not

01:05:14.920 you know

01:05:15.560 what else

01:05:15.840 I noticed

01:05:16.140 too

01:05:16.380 and I'd

01:05:17.320 like to

01:05:17.520 get your

01:05:17.760 ideas

01:05:18.040 on this

01:05:18.580 John

01:05:18.780 after this

01:05:19.180 but

01:05:19.780 this was

01:05:21.400 displayed

01:05:21.760 pretty well

01:05:22.240 in the

01:05:22.440 Truman

01:05:22.640 show

01:05:22.960 and I

01:05:23.520 think

01:05:23.620 it is

01:05:23.800 an

01:05:23.900 aspect

01:05:24.180 of

01:05:24.500 our

01:05:24.860 lives

01:05:25.240 and it

01:05:25.700 is

01:05:25.840 that

01:05:26.000 when

01:05:26.200 we

01:05:26.360 are

01:05:26.500 young

01:05:26.900 we're

01:05:27.440 more

01:05:27.660 or less

01:05:27.960 told

01:05:28.280 that

01:05:28.740 everything

01:05:29.000 that

01:05:29.240 needs

01:05:29.480 to be

01:05:29.740 discovered

01:05:30.120 has

01:05:30.320 been

01:05:30.500 discovered

01:05:30.920 there's

01:05:31.500 no

01:05:31.620 more

01:05:31.780 adventure

01:05:32.120 to be

01:05:32.500 had

01:05:32.800 there's

01:05:33.020 no

01:05:33.140 new

01:05:33.380 lands

01:05:33.720 there's

01:05:33.920 nothing

01:05:34.140 like

01:05:34.340 that

01:05:34.520 we've

01:05:34.720 already

01:05:34.920 got

01:05:35.100 a

01:05:35.220 map

01:05:35.420 and

01:05:35.560 it's

01:05:35.720 done

01:05:36.000 and

01:05:36.120 in

01:05:36.220 the

01:05:36.320 Truman

01:05:36.540 show

01:05:36.920 the way

01:05:37.840 they depicted

01:05:38.240 that was

01:05:38.720 obviously

01:05:39.200 a lie

01:05:39.920 to keep

01:05:40.560 young

01:05:40.920 Truman

01:05:41.340 from

01:05:41.940 you know

01:05:42.880 developing

01:05:43.280 that sense

01:05:43.800 of adventure

01:05:44.260 and figuring

01:05:45.180 out that he

01:05:45.640 was in an

01:05:45.960 enclosed

01:05:46.260 system

01:05:46.720 and

01:05:47.520 but in

01:05:48.780 reality

01:05:49.340 that's

01:05:49.700 very much

01:05:50.100 that we

01:05:50.440 take that

01:05:51.600 out of

01:05:51.860 children

01:05:52.140 and it's

01:05:53.060 like

01:05:53.220 everything

01:05:53.440 that's

01:05:54.120 meant

01:05:54.360 to be

01:05:54.600 learned

01:05:54.820 has

01:05:54.980 virtually

01:05:55.280 been

01:05:55.520 learned

01:05:55.860 if it

01:05:56.860 hasn't

01:05:57.320 it's

01:05:57.680 going to

01:05:57.820 be

01:05:57.920 done

01:05:58.100 by

01:05:58.240 people

01:05:58.500 way

01:05:58.760 smarter

01:05:59.060 than

01:05:59.320 you

01:05:59.560 way

01:06:00.160 smarter

01:06:00.440 than

01:06:00.660 you

01:06:00.840 in fact

01:06:01.440 you

01:06:01.580 trust

01:06:01.920 the

01:06:02.080 science

01:06:02.400 these

01:06:02.640 are

01:06:02.740 the

01:06:02.820 people

01:06:02.980 that

01:06:03.120 are

01:06:03.220 going

01:06:03.300 to

01:06:03.380 do

01:06:03.560 it

01:06:03.720 and

01:06:04.360 so

01:06:05.480 I

01:06:05.620 think

01:06:05.780 it

01:06:05.880 really

01:06:06.040 takes

01:06:06.340 that

01:06:06.500 spirit

01:06:06.800 of

01:06:06.920 adventure

01:06:07.240 and

01:06:07.420 discovery

01:06:07.820 out

01:06:08.260 of

01:06:08.440 children

01:06:08.760 and

01:06:08.920 I

01:06:09.020 think

01:06:09.180 that

01:06:09.400 spirit

01:06:09.940 is

01:06:10.220 innate

01:06:11.640 to

01:06:11.980 us

01:06:12.280 and

01:06:13.240 they

01:06:13.380 squash

01:06:13.740 that

01:06:13.940 pretty

01:06:14.200 early

01:06:14.480 so

01:06:14.800 I

01:06:15.580 don't

01:06:16.020 know

01:06:16.300 what

01:06:16.860 to

01:06:17.020 make

01:06:17.200 of

01:06:17.320 it

01:06:17.480 but

01:06:17.820 I

01:06:18.260 do

01:06:18.400 that's

01:06:18.760 a

01:06:18.840 cool

01:06:19.060 scene

01:06:19.360 in

01:06:19.480 the

01:06:19.580 Truman

01:06:19.780 show

01:06:20.100 where

01:06:20.480 Truman

01:06:20.900 is

01:06:21.020 a

01:06:21.120 little

01:06:21.280 kid

01:06:21.680 and

01:06:22.340 then

01:06:22.620 he

01:06:22.780 says

01:06:22.980 he

01:06:23.060 wants

01:06:23.200 to

01:06:23.300 be

01:06:23.420 an

01:06:23.540 explorer

01:06:23.980 or

01:06:24.160 something

01:06:24.340 like

01:06:24.560 that

01:06:24.820 and

01:06:25.340 the

01:06:25.460 teacher

01:06:25.640 says

01:06:25.880 well

01:06:26.060 there's

01:06:26.260 really

01:06:26.500 not

01:06:26.800 much

01:06:27.080 left

01:06:27.340 to

01:06:27.540 explore

01:06:28.080 he's 1.00

01:06:28.680 shitting 1.00

01:06:29.460 on 1.00

01:06:29.620 his

01:06:29.740 idea

01:06:30.020 right

01:06:30.240 from

01:06:30.380 the

01:06:30.480 beginning

01:06:30.760 the

01:06:31.440 Truman

01:06:31.640 show

01:06:31.840 is

01:06:32.060 one

01:06:32.340 of

01:06:32.420 the

01:06:32.500 films

01:06:32.680 I've

01:06:32.860 done

01:06:33.000 a

01:06:33.180 deep

01:06:33.420 dive

01:06:33.720 into

01:06:33.900 like

01:06:34.120 a

01:06:34.280 frame

01:06:34.560 by

01:06:34.760 frame

01:06:35.060 analysis

01:06:35.500 of

01:06:35.860 and

01:06:36.700 I'm

01:06:36.860 guessing

01:06:37.140 you

01:06:37.360 guys

01:06:37.560 have

01:06:37.720 probably

01:06:37.960 heard

01:06:38.160 the

01:06:38.280 idea

01:06:38.560 that

01:06:38.920 this

01:06:39.680 idea

01:06:39.960 of

01:06:40.080 the

01:06:40.160 Truman

01:06:40.360 show

01:06:40.660 is

01:06:41.220 really

01:06:42.180 the

01:06:42.420 idea

01:06:42.780 of

01:06:43.140 a

01:06:43.500 man's

01:06:44.020 awakening

01:06:44.740 not

01:06:45.800 dissimilar

01:06:46.440 to

01:06:46.680 what

01:06:46.880 somebody

01:06:47.220 might

01:06:47.440 go

01:06:47.640 through

01:06:47.960 in

01:06:48.320 an

01:06:48.480 initiation

01:06:48.940 into

01:06:49.580 a

01:06:49.760 secret

01:06:50.020 school

01:06:50.340 you

01:06:50.560 guys

01:06:50.700 have

01:06:50.820 heard

01:06:50.940 this

01:06:51.080 idea

01:06:51.240 before

01:06:51.500 because

01:06:53.440 it

01:06:53.620 begins

01:06:54.040 so

01:06:54.280 that

01:06:54.400 the

01:06:54.520 movie

01:06:54.760 begins

01:06:55.260 and

01:06:55.700 there's

01:06:55.960 Truman

01:06:56.240 in his

01:06:56.720 bathroom

01:06:57.120 doing

01:06:57.340 a little

01:06:57.540 spaceship

01:06:58.180 thing

01:06:58.580 and

01:06:59.200 he's

01:06:59.420 getting

01:06:59.620 dressed

01:06:59.920 he's

01:07:00.060 ready

01:07:00.180 for

01:07:00.320 work

01:07:00.480 he

01:07:00.580 goes

01:07:00.740 to

01:07:00.840 his

01:07:00.980 car

01:07:01.320 and

01:07:02.120 then

01:07:02.220 a

01:07:02.340 light

01:07:02.540 falls

01:07:02.880 from

01:07:03.080 the

01:07:03.220 sky

01:07:03.560 and

01:07:03.800 that

01:07:03.980 light

01:07:04.300 is

01:07:04.580 serious

01:07:05.080 as

01:07:05.800 in

01:07:06.020 the

01:07:06.200 dog

01:07:06.440 star

01:07:06.800 as

01:07:07.600 in

01:07:07.800 the

01:07:08.020 blazing

01:07:08.500 star

01:07:08.840 you

01:07:09.060 guys

01:07:09.300 are

01:07:09.820 familiar

01:07:09.980 with

01:07:10.100 all

01:07:10.200 of

01:07:10.320 this

01:07:10.500 and

01:07:11.360 so

01:07:11.600 when

01:07:11.920 I

01:07:12.000 was

01:07:12.140 watching

01:07:12.500 back

01:07:12.900 this

01:07:13.140 film

01:07:13.460 it

01:07:14.100 occurred

01:07:14.400 to

01:07:14.580 me

01:07:14.700 that

01:07:14.880 some

01:07:15.140 of

01:07:15.220 the

01:07:15.320 things

01:07:15.480 that

01:07:15.600 happened

01:07:15.820 with

01:07:16.000 Truman

01:07:16.280 it

01:07:17.080 didn't

01:07:17.380 seem

01:07:17.680 to

01:07:17.860 be

01:07:18.200 accidental

01:07:18.940 so

01:07:19.640 the

01:07:19.820 light

01:07:20.060 falls

01:07:20.340 from

01:07:20.480 the

01:07:20.620 sky

01:07:20.820 then

01:07:21.000 when

01:07:21.100 he's

01:07:21.220 driving

01:07:21.480 to

01:07:21.700 work

01:07:22.080 his

01:07:22.640 radio

01:07:22.920 station

01:07:23.260 starts

01:07:23.540 getting

01:07:23.740 buggy

01:07:24.200 and

01:07:24.760 he

01:07:24.900 overhears

01:07:25.660 what

01:07:26.220 should

01:07:26.420 be

01:07:26.620 back

01:07:26.920 channel

01:07:27.140 communication

01:07:27.720 between

01:07:28.080 the

01:07:28.280 people

01:07:28.580 producing

01:07:29.440 his

01:07:29.660 fake

01:07:29.880 world

01:07:30.220 and

01:07:30.820 they're

01:07:30.940 talking

01:07:31.160 about

01:07:31.600 people

01:07:32.840 who

01:07:33.000 should

01:07:33.140 walk

01:07:33.380 on

01:07:33.520 to

01:07:33.600 what

01:07:33.760 side

01:07:33.920 of

01:07:34.000 the

01:07:34.080 road

01:07:34.280 or

01:07:34.400 where

01:07:34.600 Truman

01:07:34.800 is

01:07:34.880 driving

01:07:35.200 when

01:07:36.380 you

01:07:37.040 first

01:07:37.260 watch

01:07:37.420 the

01:07:37.500 film

01:07:37.620 it

01:07:37.740 seems

01:07:37.900 like

01:07:38.100 there's

01:07:38.600 mistakes

01:07:38.940 that

01:07:39.060 are

01:07:39.120 happening

01:07:39.420 and

01:07:40.020 so

01:07:40.160 Truman

01:07:40.440 is

01:07:40.620 accidentally

01:07:41.140 finding

01:07:41.540 out

01:07:41.780 where

01:07:41.900 he

01:07:42.000 really

01:07:42.200 is

01:07:42.600 it

01:07:43.280 occurred

01:07:43.580 to

01:07:43.740 me

01:07:43.840 when

01:07:43.960 I

01:07:44.080 rewatched

01:07:44.560 the

01:07:44.660 film

01:07:44.880 frame

01:07:45.640 by

01:07:45.780 frame

01:07:46.000 taking

01:07:46.260 screenshots

01:07:46.700 of

01:07:46.840 doing

01:07:46.940 analysis

01:07:47.260 of

01:07:47.480 it

01:07:47.620 but

01:07:48.260 that

01:07:48.380 wasn't

01:07:48.580 the

01:07:48.680 case

01:07:48.880 at

01:07:49.020 all

01:07:49.160 that

01:07:49.300 these

01:07:49.500 things

01:07:49.700 had

01:07:49.780 actually

01:07:49.940 been

01:07:50.120 planted

01:07:50.560 there

01:07:50.920 someone

01:07:51.600 had

01:07:51.820 intentionally

01:07:52.320 dropped

01:07:52.700 the star

01:07:53.240 in front

01:07:53.600 of

01:07:53.800 Truman

01:07:54.160 someone

01:07:55.000 had

01:07:55.160 intentionally

01:07:55.700 bugged

01:07:56.240 the

01:07:56.380 radio

01:07:56.700 even

01:07:57.460 his

01:07:57.660 father

01:07:57.960 turning

01:07:58.240 up

01:07:58.440 how did

01:07:58.820 his

01:07:58.920 father

01:07:59.120 even

01:07:59.300 get

01:07:59.440 on

01:07:59.560 the

01:07:59.680 set

01:07:59.920 why

01:08:00.500 would

01:08:00.640 they

01:08:00.780 reuse

01:08:01.300 the

01:08:01.460 actor

01:08:01.660 who

01:08:01.800 played

01:08:01.940 his

01:08:02.080 father

01:08:02.320 some

01:08:03.040 of

01:08:03.140 these

01:08:03.260 things

01:08:03.460 seemed

01:08:03.780 intentional

01:08:04.460 and

01:08:05.200 sometimes

01:08:05.760 I

01:08:06.200 wonder

01:08:06.520 if

01:08:07.360 a lot

01:08:07.640 of

01:08:07.860 the

01:08:08.340 so-called

01:08:08.800 waking

01:08:09.200 up

01:08:09.480 that we

01:08:09.740 go

01:08:17.620 done

01:08:17.760 by

01:08:17.920 other

01:08:18.100 humans

01:08:18.500 or

01:08:19.160 maybe

01:08:19.340 done

01:08:19.500 by

01:08:19.620 something

01:08:19.820 bigger

01:08:20.400 something

01:08:20.640 metaphysical

01:08:21.360 you know

01:08:21.700 what I'm

01:08:21.760 trying to

01:08:21.960 say

01:08:22.160 like

01:08:22.700 were

01:08:22.840 these

01:08:23.040 things

01:08:23.220 left

01:08:23.460 there

01:08:23.600 for

01:08:23.780 us

01:08:24.060 I

01:08:25.660 agree

01:08:25.920 with

01:08:26.120 that

01:08:26.380 and

01:08:26.680 that

01:08:26.920 actually

01:08:27.520 I

01:08:27.840 think

01:08:28.020 probably

01:08:28.380 ruffles

01:08:28.840 more

01:08:29.060 feathers

01:08:29.360 than

01:08:29.540 you

01:08:29.640 might

01:08:29.800 expect

01:08:30.220 because

01:08:30.560 people

01:08:30.940 like

01:08:31.140 to

01:08:31.300 think

01:08:31.480 that

01:08:31.660 their

01:08:31.860 awakening

01:08:32.360 came

01:08:32.780 about

01:08:33.060 because

01:08:33.340 of

01:08:33.500 their

01:08:33.660 like

01:08:33.880 superior

01:08:34.240 intellect

01:08:34.840 or

01:08:35.300 you

01:08:35.680 know

01:08:35.760 what

01:08:35.880 I

01:08:35.960 mean

01:08:36.120 it's

01:08:36.320 like

01:08:36.500 you

01:08:36.620 don't

01:08:36.820 want

01:08:37.120 to

01:08:37.780 believe

01:08:38.400 that

01:08:47.620 it

01:08:47.980 was

01:08:48.080 you

01:08:48.260 that

01:08:48.440 did

01:08:48.600 it

01:08:48.820 and

01:08:49.160 to

01:08:49.300 say

01:08:49.480 then

01:08:49.700 instead

01:08:50.280 it

01:08:50.440 was

01:08:50.560 somebody

01:08:50.820 else

01:08:51.000 but

01:08:51.140 I

01:08:51.240 agree

01:08:51.440 with

01:08:51.620 that

01:08:51.840 I

01:08:52.520 look

01:08:52.760 around

01:08:53.040 very

01:08:53.360 often

01:08:53.760 and

01:08:53.980 I'm

01:08:54.100 like

01:08:54.240 why

01:08:54.400 are

01:08:54.520 they

01:08:54.640 showing

01:08:55.080 us

01:08:55.480 these

01:08:56.100 things

01:08:56.340 why

01:08:56.520 are

01:08:56.640 they

01:08:56.740 allowing

01:08:57.040 us

01:08:57.200 to

01:08:57.320 see

01:08:57.460 these

01:08:57.660 things

01:08:57.860 I

01:08:58.000 recognize

01:08:58.420 that

01:08:58.720 there's

01:08:58.900 a

01:08:59.060 price

01:08:59.880 for

01:09:00.080 entry

01:09:00.440 to

01:09:00.780 be

01:09:00.920 able

01:09:01.060 to

01:09:01.220 notice

01:09:01.460 them

01:09:01.760 meaning

01:09:02.420 you

01:09:02.900 know

01:09:02.980 the

01:09:03.120 average

01:09:03.440 person

01:09:03.780 whatever

01:09:04.020 40%

01:09:04.540 of the

01:09:04.720 population

01:09:05.180 who's

01:09:05.440 too

01:09:05.580 busy

01:09:05.800 with

01:09:05.960 nine

01:09:06.220 to

01:09:06.340 five

01:09:06.540 grind

01:09:07.040 who

01:09:07.380 you

01:09:08.000 know

01:09:08.100 has

01:09:08.360 whatever

01:09:08.720 level

01:09:09.000 IQ

01:09:09.320 isn't

01:09:10.460 really

01:09:10.800 a

01:09:10.980 critical

01:09:11.240 thinker

01:09:11.780 and

01:09:12.240 is

01:09:12.440 just

01:09:12.620 kind

01:09:12.820 of

01:09:12.940 a

01:09:13.120 cog

01:09:13.320 in

01:09:13.440 the

01:09:13.520 machine

01:09:13.800 that

01:09:14.020 person

01:09:14.320 is

01:09:14.420 not

01:09:14.600 going

01:09:14.720 to

01:09:14.820 see

01:09:15.300 these

01:09:15.580 things

01:09:15.900 so

01:09:16.420 when

01:09:17.180 you

01:09:17.360 see

01:09:17.580 them

01:09:17.860 you

01:09:18.480 think

01:09:18.640 it's

01:09:18.760 because

01:09:19.000 you

01:09:19.280 you

01:09:19.600 have

01:09:19.860 something

01:09:20.120 that

01:09:20.300 somebody

01:09:20.560 else

01:09:20.720 doesn't

01:09:20.960 have

01:09:21.200 you

01:09:21.320 have

01:09:21.480 this

01:09:21.720 sight

01:09:22.320 that

01:09:22.880 allows

01:09:23.120 you

01:09:23.340 to see

01:09:23.480 these

01:09:23.660 things

01:09:23.900 let me

01:09:24.280 say

01:09:24.500 I

01:09:26.300 think

01:09:26.860 this

01:09:27.020 is

01:09:27.120 a good

01:09:27.360 point

01:09:27.680 here

01:09:27.940 we

01:09:29.480 have

01:09:29.660 been

01:09:29.820 tugging

01:09:30.100 on

01:09:30.280 this

01:09:30.480 string

01:09:30.900 of

01:09:31.320 well

01:09:31.560 ancient

01:09:31.880 history

01:09:32.220 hidden

01:09:32.460 history

01:09:32.880 and

01:09:33.180 biblical

01:09:34.220 theory

01:09:34.760 biblical

01:09:35.100 history

01:09:35.620 extra

01:09:36.000 canonical

01:09:36.380 text

01:09:36.800 to

01:09:37.700 try to

01:09:38.500 figure

01:09:38.660 out

01:09:38.840 what's

01:09:39.060 been

01:09:39.180 going

01:09:39.400 on

01:09:39.760 and

01:09:40.660 what

01:09:40.880 you're

01:09:41.120 describing

01:09:41.500 right

01:09:41.740 now

01:09:42.020 is

01:09:42.240 this

01:09:42.580 it's

01:09:43.180 almost

01:09:43.480 this

01:09:43.720 little

01:09:43.920 thread

01:09:44.260 this

01:09:44.460 rabbit

01:09:44.780 row

01:09:44.960 that's

01:09:45.220 left

01:09:45.460 for

01:09:45.600 us

01:09:45.740 to

01:09:45.900 tug

01:09:46.100 on

01:09:46.220 because

01:09:46.380 it's

01:09:47.200 left

01:09:47.500 there

01:09:47.720 I

01:09:47.820 mean

01:09:47.980 the

01:09:48.660 Dead

01:09:49.260 Sea

01:09:49.400 Scrolls

01:09:49.800 were

01:09:49.940 just

01:09:50.260 released

01:09:50.760 in the

01:09:52.200 70s

01:09:52.560 I

01:09:52.660 believe

01:09:52.920 found

01:09:54.820 in

01:09:54.980 the

01:09:55.120 60s

01:09:55.600 it's

01:09:56.660 supposed

01:09:56.820 to be

01:09:57.020 for the

01:09:57.260 fig tree

01:09:57.740 generation

01:09:58.360 or the

01:09:58.800 last

01:09:59.420 generation

01:10:00.080 we're

01:10:00.860 going to

01:10:01.060 need

01:10:01.240 these

01:10:01.460 books

01:10:01.660 to

01:10:01.820 figure

01:10:02.000 out

01:10:02.200 the

01:10:02.320 end

01:10:02.460 times

01:10:02.720 well

01:10:02.860 here

01:10:03.340 they

01:10:03.560 are

01:10:03.860 and

01:10:04.520 here

01:10:04.680 we

01:10:04.840 are

01:10:05.020 pulling

01:10:05.320 on

01:10:05.540 them

01:10:05.640 we're

01:10:05.780 talking

01:10:05.980 about

01:10:06.120 the

01:10:06.240 ideas

01:10:06.480 of

01:10:06.580 the

01:10:06.680 nephilim

01:10:07.020 and

01:10:07.260 these

01:10:08.360 ancient

01:10:08.720 biblical

01:10:09.040 stories

01:10:09.620 and

01:10:09.820 they

01:10:09.980 make

01:10:10.480 the

01:10:11.160 past

01:10:11.680 make

01:10:12.240 a

01:10:12.360 lot

01:10:12.500 of

01:10:12.620 sense

01:10:12.940 and

01:10:13.100 they

01:10:13.180 make

01:10:13.300 the

01:10:13.480 future

01:10:13.900 seem

01:10:14.680 a

01:10:14.800 little

01:10:14.880 bit

01:10:15.020 more

01:10:15.200 manageable

01:10:15.600 if

01:10:15.900 you

01:10:16.020 understand

01:10:16.500 what

01:10:16.740 these

01:10:16.920 books

01:10:17.160 are

01:10:17.340 but

01:10:17.480 I

01:10:18.200 think

01:10:18.420 you

01:10:18.540 have

01:10:18.680 a

01:10:18.820 different

01:10:19.020 point

01:10:19.260 of

01:10:19.380 view

01:10:19.480 John

01:10:19.760 so

01:10:20.040 what

01:10:20.460 do

01:10:20.540 you

01:10:20.600 think

01:10:20.720 about

01:10:20.920 those

01:10:21.240 things

01:10:21.620 yeah

01:10:22.760 the

01:10:22.920 Dead

01:10:23.180 Sea

01:10:23.460 Scrolls

01:10:24.060 man

01:10:24.300 so

01:10:24.520 these

01:10:24.740 were

01:10:24.960 discovered

01:10:25.620 by

01:10:25.900 some

01:10:26.360 farmer

01:10:27.240 or

01:10:27.480 something

01:10:27.780 in

01:10:27.960 a

01:10:28.120 cave

01:10:28.460 actually

01:10:30.920 it

01:10:31.120 was

01:10:31.200 like

01:10:31.320 a

01:10:31.440 child

01:10:31.840 that

01:10:32.040 threw

01:10:32.260 a

01:10:32.440 rock

01:10:32.800 that

01:10:33.160 ended

01:10:33.320 up

01:10:33.460 going

01:10:33.660 into

01:10:33.880 a

01:10:34.060 cave

01:10:34.320 or

01:10:34.440 something

01:10:34.660 like

01:10:34.860 that

01:10:35.040 and

01:10:35.160 then

01:10:35.240 he

01:10:35.320 went

01:10:35.460 in

01:10:35.560 there

01:10:35.700 to

01:10:35.840 retrieve

01:10:36.160 it

01:10:36.340 great

01:10:37.420 story

01:10:37.900 yeah

01:10:38.900 isn't

01:10:39.160 that

01:10:39.280 amazing

01:10:39.660 yeah

01:10:39.920 they

01:10:40.100 were

01:10:40.220 discovered

01:10:40.620 over

01:10:40.920 a

01:10:41.100 period

01:10:41.320 of

01:10:41.480 10

01:10:41.720 years

01:10:41.980 between

01:10:42.280 1946

01:10:42.980 and

01:10:43.360 56

01:10:43.780 at

01:10:44.800 the

01:10:44.920 Qumran

01:10:45.200 caves

01:10:45.660 in

01:10:46.300 the

01:10:46.480 West

01:10:46.760 Bank

01:10:47.160 on

01:10:47.540 the

01:10:47.700 Dead

01:10:47.940 Sea

01:10:48.360 isn't

01:10:49.320 that

01:10:49.440 amazing

01:10:49.800 so

01:10:50.020 they've

01:10:50.180 just

01:10:50.280 been

01:10:50.420 sitting

01:10:50.640 there

01:10:50.780 for

01:10:50.900 thousands

01:10:51.420 of

01:10:51.720 years

01:10:52.180 and

01:10:53.000 then

01:10:53.160 shortly

01:10:53.500 after

01:10:53.820 what

01:10:54.080 we're

01:10:54.240 told

01:10:54.440 is

01:10:54.600 World

01:10:54.820 War

01:10:55.000 II

01:10:55.280 some

01:10:56.120 do

01:10:56.340 just

01:10:56.660 find

01:10:57.300 some

01:10:57.440 the

01:10:57.560 initial

01:10:57.760 discovery

01:10:59.100 by

01:10:59.420 Bedouan

01:10:59.820 shepherd

01:11:00.120 Mohammed

01:11:00.520 Ed

01:11:01.200 Dib

01:11:01.580 his

01:11:06.340 place

01:11:06.640 between

01:11:07.460 1946

01:11:08.180 and

01:11:08.520 1947

01:11:09.280 the

01:11:10.400 shepherds

01:11:10.800 discovered

01:11:11.240 seven

01:11:11.620 scrolls

01:11:12.680 housed

01:11:13.080 in

01:11:13.280 jars

01:11:13.540 in a

01:11:13.800 cave

01:11:14.040 near

01:11:14.220 what

01:11:14.400 is

01:11:14.660 now

01:11:15.320 known

01:11:15.540 to be

01:11:16.000 as

01:11:16.960 Qumran

01:11:17.360 site

01:11:17.820 interesting

01:11:19.040 so

01:11:19.520 before I

01:11:20.100 tell you

01:11:20.400 where I

01:11:20.760 come at

01:11:21.040 with all

01:11:21.280 of this

01:11:21.480 can I

01:11:21.680 just

01:11:21.820 ask

01:11:22.040 you

01:11:22.180 and I

01:11:22.360 mean

01:11:22.500 this

01:11:22.620 with

01:11:22.720 the

01:11:22.800 greatest

01:11:22.980 of

01:11:23.140 respect

01:11:23.440 I'm

01:11:23.620 not

01:11:23.720 going

01:11:23.820 to

01:11:24.400 argue

01:11:24.960 with

01:11:25.080 anybody

01:11:25.380 do

01:11:26.480 you

01:11:26.880 believe

01:11:27.820 stories

01:11:28.220 like

01:11:28.480 the

01:11:28.700 Dead

01:11:29.040 Sea

01:11:29.220 Scrolls

01:11:29.560 like

01:11:29.660 do

01:11:29.760 you

01:11:29.820 believe

01:11:30.080 these

01:11:30.260 things

01:11:30.400 are

01:11:30.520 thousands

01:11:30.760 thousands

01:11:36.700 I know

01:11:37.140 that

01:11:37.380 some

01:11:38.620 of

01:11:38.760 the

01:11:38.840 biblical

01:11:39.060 texts

01:11:39.500 reference

01:11:40.240 specifically

01:11:40.980 the

01:11:41.240 book

01:11:41.420 of

01:11:41.580 Enoch

01:11:42.020 they

01:11:42.220 reference

01:11:42.680 the

01:11:42.940 book

01:11:43.160 of

01:11:43.500 Jude

01:11:44.680 references

01:11:45.200 they

01:11:46.160 do

01:11:46.520 reference

01:11:47.100 some

01:11:47.460 extra

01:11:47.760 canonical

01:11:48.200 texts

01:11:49.180 that

01:11:49.440 would

01:11:49.680 be

01:11:49.840 found

01:11:50.100 in

01:11:50.260 the

01:11:50.360 Dead

01:11:50.520 Sea

01:11:50.740 Scrolls

01:11:51.180 I

01:11:51.900 find

01:11:52.160 it

01:11:52.280 interesting

01:11:52.640 that

01:11:53.080 like

01:11:53.420 you

01:11:53.560 said

01:11:53.780 1947

01:11:54.980 they're

01:11:56.240 found

01:11:56.520 in

01:11:57.300 1948

01:11:57.960 Israel

01:11:58.520 is

01:11:58.800 created

01:11:59.920 it's

01:12:01.580 like

01:12:01.860 it

01:12:03.200 does

01:12:03.440 seem

01:12:03.680 very

01:12:03.960 like

01:12:04.360 here's

01:12:05.240 this

01:12:05.580 and

01:12:05.980 now

01:12:06.180 here

01:12:06.380 we

01:12:06.520 are

01:12:06.660 moving

01:12:06.960 into

01:12:07.380 you

01:12:08.000 know

01:12:08.160 biblical

01:12:08.580 end

01:12:08.780 times

01:12:08.960 prophecy

01:12:09.500 by

01:12:10.080 creating

01:12:10.480 we

01:12:10.760 did

01:12:10.940 that

01:12:11.100 episode

01:12:11.400 yesterday

01:12:11.800 top

01:12:12.100 I

01:12:12.320 mean

01:12:12.460 so

01:12:12.840 much 1.00

01:12:13.220 shit 0.99

01:12:13.540 happens 0.99

01:12:14.020 at

01:12:14.140 the

01:12:14.240 tail

01:12:14.420 end

01:12:14.560 of

01:12:14.640 the

01:12:14.760 40s

01:12:15.280 and

01:12:16.000 I

01:12:16.420 mean

01:12:16.520 including

01:12:16.860 MK

01:12:17.440 Ultra

01:12:17.760 programs

01:12:18.260 and

01:12:18.380 everything

01:12:18.600 I

01:12:18.760 mean

01:12:18.860 it's

01:12:19.060 it's

01:12:19.320 insane

01:12:19.820 catcher

01:12:20.580 in the

01:12:20.760 rye

01:12:21.040 yeah

01:12:21.580 it all

01:12:22.220 starts

01:12:22.800 like

01:12:23.220 like

01:12:23.540 it's

01:12:23.720 like

01:12:23.840 they

01:12:24.000 kick 0.71

01:12:24.260 the ball

01:12:24.700 off

01:12:25.040 during

01:12:25.420 that

01:12:25.580 48

01:12:25.880 yeah

01:12:26.600 that's

01:12:27.060 that's

01:12:27.340 when they

01:12:27.580 started

01:12:27.900 the

01:12:28.100 precursor

01:12:28.640 for

01:12:28.980 MK

01:12:30.240 Ultra

01:12:30.560 and

01:12:30.960 then

01:12:31.100 you

01:12:31.220 get

01:12:31.400 catcher

01:12:31.760 in

01:12:31.840 the

01:12:31.940 rye

01:12:32.140 in

01:12:32.280 51

01:12:32.800 53

01:12:33.620 is

01:12:34.020 MK

01:12:34.280 Ultra

01:12:34.580 you

01:12:35.120 have

01:12:35.280 the

01:12:35.400 Dead Sea

01:12:35.680 Scrolls

01:12:36.020 in

01:12:36.140 47

01:12:36.740 Israel

01:12:37.460 created

01:12:37.920 in

01:12:38.120 48

01:12:38.520 this

01:12:38.760 is

01:12:38.880 all

01:12:39.100 after

01:12:39.400 World

01:12:39.660 War

01:12:39.860 2

01:12:40.000 this

01:12:40.160 is

01:12:40.240 after

01:12:40.560 we've

01:12:40.880 absorbed

01:12:41.320 all

01:12:41.800 these 0.89

01:12:42.000 Nazi

01:12:42.260 scientists

01:12:42.700 into

01:12:43.200 our

01:12:43.440 government

01:12:43.740 to

01:12:44.500 do

01:12:44.660 whatever

01:12:45.080 Nazis

01:12:46.520 being

01:12:46.800 steeped

01:12:47.500 in

01:12:47.560 the

01:12:47.680 occult

01:12:47.960 I

01:12:48.240 don't

01:12:48.880 know

01:12:54.700 most

01:12:55.500 of

01:12:55.620 the

01:12:55.720 stuff

01:12:55.860 they

01:12:56.080 give

01:12:56.320 us

01:12:56.560 is

01:12:57.500 true

01:12:57.980 but

01:12:58.900 it's

01:12:59.580 filled

01:12:59.860 with

01:13:00.780 truth

01:13:01.120 with

01:13:01.360 one

01:13:01.700 very

01:13:02.060 important

01:13:02.440 lie

01:13:02.840 and

01:13:03.440 look

01:13:03.920 on

01:13:04.140 that

01:13:04.300 note

01:13:04.540 too

01:13:04.820 I

01:13:05.100 recognize

01:13:05.540 that

01:13:05.800 a lot

01:13:06.100 of

01:13:06.260 the

01:13:06.520 narrative

01:13:08.040 for

01:13:08.300 the

01:13:08.400 Nephilim

01:13:08.760 and

01:13:09.540 a lot

01:13:10.000 more

01:13:10.260 of

01:13:10.440 the

01:13:10.740 finer

01:13:11.360 definitions

01:13:11.880 of

01:13:12.160 them

01:13:12.300 comes

01:13:12.560 from

01:13:12.700 the

01:13:12.800 book

01:13:12.940 of

01:13:13.040 Enoch

01:13:13.320 which

01:13:13.860 is

01:13:14.680 among

01:13:14.900 that

01:13:15.100 discovery

01:13:15.520 and

01:13:15.880 I

01:13:16.120 have

01:13:16.320 to

01:13:16.440 admit

01:13:16.700 that

01:13:16.960 this

01:13:18.060 is

01:13:18.220 something

01:13:18.460 that

01:13:18.620 I

01:13:18.760 suspect

01:13:19.060 is

01:13:19.340 true

01:13:19.660 but

01:13:20.020 then

01:13:20.180 when

01:13:24.700 I

01:13:25.780 don't

01:13:26.060 know

01:13:26.180 that

01:13:26.300 these

01:13:26.440 two

01:13:26.580 things

01:13:26.760 should

01:13:26.880 be

01:13:27.000 in

01:13:27.100 alignment

01:13:27.420 but

01:13:29.020 just

01:13:29.880 to

01:13:30.220 I

01:13:31.520 don't

01:13:31.760 know

01:13:31.860 if

01:13:31.960 this

01:13:32.100 is

01:13:32.220 where

01:13:32.360 you're

01:13:32.500 going

01:13:32.760 but

01:13:32.980 I

01:13:33.080 recognize

01:13:33.580 much

01:13:34.160 of

01:13:34.460 the

01:13:34.680 initiation

01:13:35.420 that's

01:13:36.060 happening

01:13:36.340 to

01:13:36.540 us

01:13:36.680 where

01:13:36.840 we're

01:13:36.940 being

01:13:37.380 privy

01:13:37.700 to

01:13:37.820 this

01:13:37.980 information

01:13:38.420 it's

01:13:38.640 done

01:13:40.040 through

01:13:40.280 these

01:13:40.620 Freemasonic

01:13:41.180 rituals

01:13:41.700 whether

01:13:41.940 it's

01:13:42.140 at the

01:13:42.340 Super Bowl

01:13:42.800 or

01:13:43.040 in

01:13:43.260 some

01:13:43.480 piece

01:13:43.760 of

01:13:43.900 Hollywood

01:13:44.220 work

01:13:44.620 or

01:13:44.740 whatever

01:13:45.020 it's

01:13:46.660 interesting

01:13:46.960 because

01:13:47.240 even

01:13:47.420 the

01:13:47.900 Mason

01:13:48.600 seem

01:13:48.980 to

01:13:49.220 when

01:13:49.520 you

01:13:49.620 have

01:13:49.800 the

01:13:50.220 two

01:13:50.680 pillars

01:13:51.080 and

01:13:51.400 then

01:13:51.560 the

01:13:51.840 archway

01:13:52.540 over

01:13:52.800 it

01:13:52.980 the

01:13:53.120 cornerstone

01:13:53.700 is

01:13:53.980 Cancer

01:13:54.640 and

01:13:55.880 then

01:13:56.000 beneath

01:13:56.320 the

01:13:56.520 archway

01:13:57.000 are

01:13:57.380 the

01:13:57.580 stars

01:13:57.960 it

01:13:58.200 seems

01:13:58.420 like

01:13:58.580 they're

01:13:58.760 pointing

01:13:59.100 to

01:13:59.280 this

01:13:59.480 idea

01:13:59.760 of

01:13:59.880 the

01:13:59.980 firmament

01:14:00.380 it

01:14:00.600 even

01:14:00.860 kind

01:14:01.320 of

01:14:01.420 points

01:14:01.640 to

01:14:01.740 this

01:14:01.900 idea

01:14:02.260 of

01:14:02.520 the

01:14:02.760 Tropic

01:14:03.120 of

01:14:03.320 Cancer

01:14:03.700 somehow

01:14:04.580 being

01:14:04.960 the

01:14:05.340 entry

01:14:06.300 point

01:14:06.660 into

01:14:06.980 this

01:14:07.240 realm

01:14:07.560 and

01:14:08.260 this

01:14:08.440 is

01:14:08.580 something

01:14:08.840 that

01:14:09.300 is

01:14:09.840 kind

01:14:10.080 of

01:14:10.180 incorporated

01:14:10.740 into

01:14:11.000 flat

01:14:11.260 earth

01:14:11.520 maps

01:14:11.920 so

01:14:12.380 I

01:14:13.060 don't

01:14:13.140 know

01:14:13.240 it

01:14:13.380 does

01:14:13.620 feel

01:14:13.860 like

01:14:14.240 all

01:14:15.160 of

01:14:15.260 the

01:14:15.380 things

01:14:15.600 that

01:14:15.800 we

01:14:16.100 champion

01:14:16.600 ourselves

01:14:17.080 for

01:14:17.320 being

01:14:17.600 like

01:14:17.800 oh

01:14:17.980 we're

01:14:18.180 noticers

01:14:18.720 we got

01:14:19.160 the

01:14:19.340 it's

01:14:19.560 like

01:14:19.720 they keep

01:14:20.340 they keep

01:14:20.820 sliding

01:14:21.160 them across

01:14:21.620 the table

01:14:22.020 to us

01:14:22.480 and

01:14:22.980 they're

01:14:23.380 steeped

01:14:23.820 in

01:14:23.940 like

01:14:24.140 ritual

01:14:24.460 and

01:14:24.680 ceremony

01:14:25.060 too

01:14:25.380 I

01:14:25.760 don't

01:14:25.900 know

01:14:25.980 if

01:14:26.060 they're

01:14:26.160 trying

01:14:26.280 to

01:14:26.400 wake

01:14:26.580 us

01:14:26.720 all

01:14:26.900 up

01:14:27.140 or

01:14:27.400 or

01:14:28.280 they're

01:14:28.440 trying

01:14:28.580 to

01:14:28.680 control

01:14:28.920 the

01:14:29.080 narrative

01:14:29.420 but

01:14:30.520 yeah

01:14:30.840 it's

01:14:31.520 hard

01:14:31.660 to

01:14:31.760 know

01:14:31.900 what

01:14:32.060 to

01:14:32.180 make

01:14:32.320 of

01:14:32.440 it

01:14:32.880 well

01:14:34.000 you

01:14:34.120 mentioned

01:14:34.540 believing

01:14:35.300 in

01:14:35.540 God

01:14:35.780 and

01:14:35.900 I

01:14:36.000 don't

01:14:36.080 know

01:14:36.200 where

01:14:36.320 you

01:14:36.420 guys

01:14:36.620 stand

01:14:37.000 necessarily

01:14:37.580 with

01:14:37.760 all

01:14:37.880 of

01:14:38.000 that

01:14:38.180 but

01:14:38.440 even

01:14:38.880 though

01:14:39.060 I'm

01:14:39.120 not

01:14:39.300 what

01:14:39.700 you

01:14:39.820 might

01:14:39.980 call

01:14:40.260 religious

01:14:40.700 or

01:14:40.920 Christian

01:14:41.200 there

01:14:41.440 are

01:14:41.660 parts

01:14:42.220 of

01:14:42.420 the

01:14:42.560 Bible

01:14:42.860 that

01:14:43.200 really

01:14:43.480 do

01:14:43.680 resonate

01:14:44.000 with

01:14:44.280 me

01:14:44.460 and

01:14:45.100 one

01:14:45.260 of

01:14:45.360 them

01:14:45.460 is

01:14:45.600 Matthew

01:14:45.940 7

01:14:46.360 6

01:14:46.880 which

01:14:47.460 I'll

01:14:47.660 paraphrase

01:14:48.220 as

01:14:48.600 Hi

01:14:49.260 I'm

01:14:49.560 Darren

01:14:49.780 Marler

01:14:50.180 host

01:14:50.580 of the

01:14:50.800 Weird

01:14:51.000 Darkness

01:14:51.400 podcast

01:14:51.800 I want

01:14:52.340 to talk

01:14:52.620 about

01:14:52.820 the

01:14:52.980 most

01:14:53.240 important

01:14:53.640 tool

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01:15:49.000 do not cast

01:15:50.300 ye pearls

01:15:51.040 before swine

01:15:51.760 don't give

01:15:52.220 what is holy

01:15:52.740 unto the dogs

01:15:53.500 and my

01:15:54.340 interpretation

01:15:54.880 of that

01:15:55.220 is if

01:15:56.300 you have

01:15:56.620 found

01:15:57.040 information

01:15:58.140 that is

01:15:59.360 true

01:15:59.720 that is

01:16:00.040 valid

01:16:00.420 that doesn't

01:16:01.900 mean it's

01:16:02.200 for everybody

01:16:02.760 not everybody's

01:16:04.080 going to

01:16:04.440 appreciate it

01:16:05.200 and so I

01:16:05.960 normally try

01:16:06.960 to tailor

01:16:07.520 what I say

01:16:08.400 to whoever

01:16:09.360 I'm speaking

01:16:09.780 to in real

01:16:10.400 life or

01:16:10.820 online

01:16:11.100 if I'm

01:16:11.400 talking to

01:16:11.720 a regular

01:16:12.000 person

01:16:12.440 I talk

01:16:13.360 about regular

01:16:13.840 things

01:16:14.280 if I'm

01:16:15.040 talking to

01:16:15.400 a supposedly

01:16:15.860 awake

01:16:16.260 person

01:16:16.660 I find out

01:16:17.320 what are

01:16:17.620 they awake

01:16:18.020 to and then

01:16:18.500 we go from

01:16:18.900 there

01:16:19.140 because I'm

01:16:20.200 still learning

01:16:20.900 about you guys

01:16:22.160 and your audience

01:16:22.840 I don't know

01:16:23.240 exactly what

01:16:24.720 people are

01:16:25.520 ready to hear

01:16:27.140 but I'm ready

01:16:27.960 to take a chance

01:16:28.640 are you guys up

01:16:29.180 for this

01:16:29.580 are you ready

01:16:30.500 to take a chance

01:16:31.220 let's see what

01:16:31.740 happens

01:16:32.180 here at the

01:16:34.420 Nephilim Death Squad

01:16:35.340 with special guest

01:16:36.240 John Le Bon

01:16:36.700 are you guys ready

01:16:37.280 to take a trip

01:16:37.960 down some very

01:16:39.120 strange rabbit holes

01:16:39.900 are you ready for this

01:16:40.480 yes

01:16:40.920 very excited

01:16:41.560 let's go

01:16:42.060 okay so you've got

01:16:42.900 on your screen

01:16:43.360 there the

01:16:43.640 oxyrhynchus papyri

01:16:44.480 now most people

01:16:46.060 think they've got

01:16:46.600 a decent idea

01:16:47.480 about ancient

01:16:48.580 Egypt

01:16:48.920 ancient Rome

01:16:49.720 and so forth

01:16:50.520 that is thousands

01:16:51.320 of years ago

01:16:51.980 there were

01:16:52.840 civilizations

01:16:53.640 okay they probably

01:16:54.960 didn't have

01:16:55.440 electricity

01:16:55.960 and computers

01:16:57.100 and the technology

01:16:57.740 that we have

01:16:58.300 they might not

01:16:59.440 have had the

01:16:59.940 medical advancements

01:17:00.860 and this kind

01:17:01.240 of stuff

01:17:01.480 but they were

01:17:01.940 a civilization

01:17:02.440 they grew food

01:17:04.140 they had some

01:17:04.860 kind of social

01:17:05.520 order

01:17:05.900 they might have

01:17:06.620 even had

01:17:06.920 democracy

01:17:07.320 they were a

01:17:07.740 civilization

01:17:08.200 and we know

01:17:09.120 about this

01:17:09.480 because we were

01:17:09.880 taught at school

01:17:10.560 we were taught

01:17:11.780 in television shows

01:17:13.440 or on movies

01:17:13.900 or documentaries

01:17:14.380 we've got a

01:17:15.080 basic idea

01:17:15.640 a few thousand

01:17:16.060 years ago

01:17:16.340 these people

01:17:16.680 existed

01:17:17.020 and we've got

01:17:18.460 records of what

01:17:19.300 these people

01:17:19.800 said and did

01:17:20.860 that's what

01:17:21.840 most people

01:17:22.540 think

01:17:23.100 that's what

01:17:23.840 I used to

01:17:24.340 think

01:17:24.640 until I started

01:17:26.080 trying to do

01:17:26.780 some digging

01:17:27.320 to find out

01:17:28.120 what are the

01:17:28.980 original sources

01:17:29.820 because you guys

01:17:30.640 when you're in

01:17:31.080 school or

01:17:31.540 university

01:17:32.020 you weren't

01:17:33.000 reading the

01:17:34.100 original works

01:17:35.080 by Plato

01:17:36.180 or Aristotle

01:17:37.200 or any of

01:17:37.960 these dudes

01:17:38.540 you were reading

01:17:39.680 a textbook

01:17:40.700 that was published

01:17:41.380 last year

01:17:41.980 or five or ten

01:17:42.580 years ago

01:17:42.980 and that book

01:17:44.040 will have

01:17:44.560 references

01:17:45.420 so in other

01:17:46.420 words you can

01:17:46.840 read the story

01:17:47.400 as it is today

01:17:47.940 if you want to

01:17:48.860 do further

01:17:49.260 research

01:17:49.740 it's got the

01:17:50.600 references

01:17:51.040 and the

01:17:51.640 footnotes

01:17:52.260 and if you

01:17:53.040 want to

01:17:53.380 you can check

01:17:53.860 them

01:17:54.120 but almost

01:17:55.540 nobody does

01:17:56.380 I decided

01:17:57.640 I would try

01:17:58.260 this

01:17:58.580 so I found

01:17:59.580 out what

01:18:00.020 is the

01:18:00.360 current story

01:18:00.980 today

01:18:01.340 of this

01:18:02.300 character

01:18:02.680 of history

01:18:03.240 or this

01:18:04.000 event of

01:18:04.400 history

01:18:04.640 or what

01:18:04.940 have you

01:18:05.280 and it

01:18:06.240 would take

01:18:06.620 me hours

01:18:07.300 and hours

01:18:07.860 days

01:18:08.200 and days

01:18:08.600 and days

01:18:09.080 but I

01:18:10.320 would go

01:18:10.600 through

01:18:10.880 what is

01:18:11.300 the story

01:18:11.660 today

01:18:12.020 what is

01:18:12.800 the reference

01:18:13.240 what is

01:18:13.540 the footnote

01:18:14.080 and then I

01:18:14.940 would track

01:18:15.360 that source

01:18:16.060 down

01:18:16.320 so you get

01:18:16.880 the idea

01:18:17.260 you've got

01:18:17.740 the story

01:18:18.140 today

01:18:18.380 it's meant

01:18:18.640 to be based

01:18:19.040 on a story

01:18:19.460 from before

01:18:19.960 but that story

01:18:20.900 from before

01:18:21.360 might be

01:18:21.700 from 1950

01:18:22.240 it also

01:18:23.200 is not

01:18:23.540 the original

01:18:24.100 what are they

01:18:25.320 basing their

01:18:25.920 story on

01:18:26.440 so you go

01:18:26.800 to their

01:18:27.040 references

01:18:27.360 their footnotes

01:18:28.060 that goes

01:18:28.880 back to a

01:18:29.500 so-called

01:18:29.880 translation

01:18:30.400 of say

01:18:30.940 1850

01:18:32.200 so you go

01:18:33.000 and get a

01:18:33.360 copy of

01:18:33.740 that

01:18:33.920 okay

01:18:34.260 this is a

01:18:35.040 translation

01:18:35.520 what are you

01:18:36.020 translating

01:18:36.520 from

01:18:36.960 and so I

01:18:37.720 would follow

01:18:38.100 this process

01:18:38.840 and invariably

01:18:40.500 I couldn't

01:18:41.560 get back

01:18:42.100 past more

01:18:42.780 than a

01:18:43.100 couple hundred

01:18:43.780 years

01:18:44.540 and I

01:18:45.260 could never

01:18:45.680 find the

01:18:46.200 so-called

01:18:46.680 original

01:18:47.700 source

01:18:48.380 and what

01:18:49.220 they would

01:18:49.540 say

01:18:49.920 if you

01:18:50.360 follow this

01:18:50.740 process

01:18:51.080 okay

01:18:51.300 what's

01:18:51.620 your actual

01:18:52.100 how do

01:18:52.920 we know

01:18:53.240 what that

01:18:53.580 guy said

01:18:54.080 how do

01:18:54.740 we know

01:18:54.960 what that

01:18:55.240 guy did

01:18:55.720 a lot

01:18:56.620 of it

01:18:56.780 goes back

01:18:57.200 to this

01:18:57.520 oxyrhynchus

01:18:58.220 papyri

01:18:58.620 that you've

01:18:58.920 got on

01:18:59.100 your screen

01:18:59.400 right now

01:18:59.800 so this

01:19:00.460 is the

01:19:00.740 oxyrhynchus

01:19:01.460 papyri

01:19:01.880 if you want

01:19:02.180 to scroll

01:19:02.420 to the top

01:19:02.780 there

01:19:02.920 yeah

01:19:03.060 a group

01:19:03.880 of

01:19:04.060 manuscripts

01:19:04.820 discovered

01:19:06.020 during the

01:19:06.600 late 19th

01:19:07.480 and early

01:19:07.960 20th

01:19:08.460 centuries

01:19:08.820 so we're

01:19:09.420 talking 100

01:19:10.100 130 years

01:19:11.260 ago

01:19:11.460 from today

01:19:12.080 so if you

01:19:12.620 went back

01:19:12.920 130 years

01:19:13.860 that's when

01:19:14.700 these guys

01:19:15.160 were finding

01:19:15.660 this stuff

01:19:16.260 Grenfell

01:19:17.120 and Hunt

01:19:17.540 they discovered

01:19:18.800 an ancient

01:19:20.000 rubbish dump 0.82

01:19:21.200 an ancient 0.96

01:19:22.700 rubbish dump

01:19:24.260 in the

01:19:25.180 sands of

01:19:25.700 Egypt

01:19:26.060 that just

01:19:26.980 amazingly

01:19:27.860 had

01:19:28.400 all of

01:19:29.260 these

01:19:29.560 manuscripts

01:19:30.180 scattered

01:19:31.280 in these

01:19:31.600 little

01:19:31.880 sections

01:19:32.500 that have

01:19:33.400 since been

01:19:33.800 pieced

01:19:34.160 together

01:19:34.560 by academics

01:19:35.400 we're told

01:19:35.940 at Oxford

01:19:36.820 or elsewhere

01:19:37.880 that have

01:19:38.900 these original

01:19:39.580 stories

01:19:40.480 but as you

01:19:41.640 can see

01:19:42.140 you can just

01:19:42.820 think about

01:19:43.060 this logically

01:19:43.520 if that's

01:19:44.440 only 130

01:19:45.020 years ago

01:19:45.560 then how

01:19:46.440 do we

01:19:46.660 know

01:19:46.920 that those

01:19:47.740 fragments

01:19:49.360 are not

01:19:50.780 themselves

01:19:51.160 based on

01:19:51.960 the stories

01:19:52.720 that were

01:19:54.040 translated

01:19:54.840 from translations

01:19:56.200 that themselves

01:19:56.800 can't be

01:19:57.260 sourced

01:19:57.620 it's kind

01:19:58.140 of like

01:19:58.380 a circular

01:19:58.840 thing

01:19:59.280 and it

01:19:59.920 doesn't

01:20:00.120 really make

01:20:00.500 sense

01:20:00.700 when I

01:20:00.940 describe

01:20:01.280 it to

01:20:01.580 you

01:20:01.900 verbally

01:20:02.700 but anyone

01:20:03.900 can try

01:20:04.540 this

01:20:04.940 anybody

01:20:05.780 can just

01:20:07.120 pick a

01:20:07.520 character

01:20:07.820 of history

01:20:08.180 suppose

01:20:08.620 you're

01:20:09.020 really

01:20:09.220 into

01:20:09.480 Caesar

01:20:09.820 for

01:20:10.240 argument's

01:20:10.680 sake

01:20:10.880 find out

01:20:11.840 what is

01:20:12.200 the story

01:20:12.520 today

01:20:12.880 go to

01:20:13.540 Wikipedia

01:20:13.940 they have

01:20:14.400 all their

01:20:14.660 references

01:20:15.000 or get

01:20:15.840 a textbook

01:20:16.360 from a

01:20:16.740 school

01:20:17.040 or just

01:20:17.580 do

01:20:17.740 something

01:20:18.120 that'll

01:20:19.140 be

01:20:19.320 something

01:20:19.580 that's

01:20:19.740 been

01:20:19.860 published

01:20:20.280 today

01:20:20.760 or in

01:20:21.020 the last

01:20:21.300 few

01:20:21.520 years

01:20:21.760 most

01:20:22.000 likely

01:20:22.340 but that's

01:20:23.180 why they

01:20:23.420 have

01:20:23.560 references

01:20:23.920 and a lot

01:20:25.000 of us

01:20:25.200 assume

01:20:25.600 that

01:20:25.800 somebody's

01:20:26.500 checking

01:20:26.820 them

01:20:26.980 we all

01:20:27.440 assume

01:20:27.720 somebody's

01:20:28.360 checking

01:20:28.560 the

01:20:28.740 references

01:20:29.060 that's

01:20:29.940 what we

01:20:30.100 all

01:20:30.240 assume

01:20:30.520 I'm

01:20:31.520 here to

01:20:31.720 say

01:20:31.860 that

01:20:32.000 no

01:20:32.120 they're

01:20:32.260 not

01:20:32.460 because

01:20:32.700 if they

01:20:32.960 did

01:20:33.240 they'd

01:20:33.520 find out

01:20:33.860 what I

01:20:34.080 found out

01:20:34.540 which is

01:20:35.040 that those

01:20:35.380 references

01:20:35.780 will go back

01:20:36.280 to some

01:20:36.580 book from a few

01:20:37.080 decades ago

01:20:37.720 or a hundred

01:20:38.120 years ago

01:20:38.560 that book

01:20:39.520 will go back

01:20:39.920 to something

01:20:40.280 50 years prior

01:20:40.900 to that

01:20:41.200 that'll go

01:20:41.860 to a so-called

01:20:42.340 translation

01:20:42.780 with no

01:20:43.140 original

01:20:43.480 there is no

01:20:44.240 original

01:20:44.440 translation

01:20:44.820 you can

01:20:45.100 check

01:20:45.320 it's just

01:20:46.020 a story

01:20:46.360 where they

01:20:46.600 begin

01:20:47.000 claiming

01:20:47.700 they're

01:20:47.960 translating

01:20:48.260 from something

01:20:48.580 that you

01:20:48.800 can't

01:20:49.080 check

01:20:49.280 and the

01:20:50.560 supposed

01:20:50.940 originals

01:20:51.600 come from 1.00

01:20:52.380 a rubbish

01:20:52.720 dump 0.93

01:20:52.900 130 years

01:20:53.560 ago

01:20:53.740 and this

01:20:54.960 is part

01:20:55.560 of why

01:20:55.840 I believe

01:20:56.320 all of

01:20:57.260 ancient

01:20:57.460 history

01:20:57.700 is a

01:20:57.920 hoax

01:20:58.140 in terms

01:20:58.880 of the

01:20:59.220 written

01:20:59.540 records

01:21:00.400 the stories

01:21:01.180 that we've

01:21:01.460 got that

01:21:01.780 are written

01:21:02.060 in books

01:21:02.460 or on

01:21:02.680 wikipedia

01:21:02.980 pages

01:21:03.320 I think

01:21:03.940 it's all

01:21:04.220 fake

01:21:04.460 now people

01:21:05.220 come to

01:21:05.680 me

01:21:05.840 quite

01:21:06.080 understandably

01:21:06.660 and they'll

01:21:07.460 say oh

01:21:07.800 but jlb

01:21:08.300 I've been

01:21:09.160 to rome

01:21:09.680 and I've

01:21:10.280 seen the

01:21:10.600 coliseum

01:21:11.100 and it

01:21:11.260 looks really

01:21:11.760 old

01:21:12.060 yeah I'm

01:21:12.600 sure it

01:21:12.860 looks old

01:21:13.340 but we

01:21:14.320 don't know

01:21:14.580 how old

01:21:14.880 these things

01:21:15.240 are we

01:21:15.600 don't know

01:21:15.940 when they

01:21:16.220 were built

01:21:16.740 and you

01:21:17.680 can see

01:21:18.200 these

01:21:18.580 recreations

01:21:19.640 for example

01:21:20.140 Stonehenge

01:21:20.740 in England

01:21:21.080 you can

01:21:21.840 find photos

01:21:22.460 of them

01:21:22.900 repairing

01:21:23.800 it

01:21:24.180 updating

01:21:24.940 it

01:21:25.220 right

01:21:25.540 oh well

01:21:26.320 we just

01:21:26.600 have to

01:21:26.820 repair

01:21:27.100 some

01:21:27.360 they can

01:21:28.200 make stuff

01:21:28.680 look old

01:21:29.040 even when

01:21:29.480 it isn't

01:21:30.300 now I

01:21:30.680 live in

01:21:31.060 Plovdiv

01:21:31.540 Bulgaria

01:21:32.000 according to

01:21:33.200 the official

01:21:33.800 story

01:21:34.320 Plovdiv

01:21:35.200 is one

01:21:35.500 of the

01:21:35.800 oldest

01:21:36.300 cities

01:21:36.940 in the

01:21:37.560 world

01:21:38.100 okay now

01:21:38.860 for those

01:21:39.120 who don't

01:21:39.320 know

01:21:39.460 Bulgaria

01:21:40.440 is just

01:21:41.820 to the

01:21:42.180 west

01:21:42.360 of Turkey

01:21:42.920 this

01:21:43.520 country

01:21:43.760 borders

01:21:44.220 Turkey

01:21:44.720 which is

01:21:45.360 where you've

01:21:45.680 got

01:21:45.840 Gobekli

01:21:46.320 Tepe

01:21:46.680 and all

01:21:46.920 this other

01:21:47.140 stuff

01:21:47.360 that people

01:21:47.580 talk about

01:21:48.020 so we're

01:21:48.720 just west

01:21:49.220 of Turkey

01:21:49.980 and we're

01:21:50.920 east of

01:21:51.340 Italy

01:21:51.640 where you've

01:21:52.040 got Rome

01:21:52.480 and the

01:21:52.700 Colosseum

01:21:53.080 so that's

01:21:53.900 part of

01:21:54.200 the reason

01:21:54.420 why they

01:21:54.780 claim that

01:21:55.140 this part

01:21:55.540 of the

01:21:56.600 world is

01:21:57.100 kind of

01:21:57.940 like part

01:21:58.280 of the

01:21:58.520 cradle

01:21:58.780 of

01:21:58.940 civilization

01:21:59.340 and this

01:22:00.140 city

01:22:00.460 Plovdiv

01:22:01.340 has an

01:22:02.220 ancient

01:22:02.640 theatre

01:22:03.140 of

01:22:03.800 Philippopolis

01:22:04.520 thousands

01:22:05.640 of years

01:22:06.180 old

01:22:06.620 magnificent

01:22:07.640 structure

01:22:08.340 in the

01:22:09.140 summertime

01:22:09.460 they even

01:22:09.960 put

01:22:10.140 performances

01:22:10.580 on there

01:22:10.940 you can

01:22:11.480 pay your

01:22:11.820 20 or

01:22:12.280 30

01:22:12.600 level

01:22:12.900 or whatever

01:22:13.220 it is

01:22:13.620 and go

01:22:14.260 and see

01:22:14.580 ballet

01:22:15.040 or go

01:22:15.920 and see

01:22:16.200 music

01:22:16.660 and in

01:22:17.200 the

01:22:17.320 summertime

01:22:17.640 man

01:22:17.940 this city

01:22:18.280 is beautiful

01:22:18.720 it's

01:22:18.940 marvellous

01:22:19.380 and sitting

01:22:20.200 in that

01:22:20.560 theatre

01:22:20.820 that ancient

01:22:21.440 theatre

01:22:21.820 where thousands

01:22:22.880 of years

01:22:23.220 ago other

01:22:24.000 people sat

01:22:24.760 in a different

01:22:25.640 time a different

01:22:26.260 civilization

01:22:26.740 but on these

01:22:27.640 very same

01:22:28.340 stone steps

01:22:29.020 it's a

01:22:29.800 beautiful

01:22:30.040 experience

01:22:30.440 it's wonderful

01:22:30.840 it's marvellous

01:22:31.380 there's only a

01:22:32.600 couple of

01:22:33.040 issues here

01:22:33.580 one

01:22:34.660 this ancient

01:22:36.100 theatre was

01:22:36.700 rediscovered

01:22:37.760 a hundred

01:22:38.240 years ago

01:22:38.820 that's your

01:22:39.600 first issue

01:22:40.180 your second

01:22:41.180 issue is that

01:22:41.860 underneath it

01:22:42.640 is a

01:22:43.500 four-lane

01:22:44.000 highway

01:22:44.400 there's a

01:22:45.320 four-lane

01:22:45.680 highway going

01:22:46.280 underneath this

01:22:47.080 ancient theatre

01:22:48.340 now if you

01:22:49.100 spoke to any

01:22:49.760 of the people

01:22:50.300 who went to

01:22:51.100 this theatre

01:22:51.540 they would

01:22:52.420 tell you that

01:22:52.960 they were

01:22:53.200 sitting where

01:22:53.960 humans sat

01:22:54.620 thousands of

01:22:55.100 years ago

01:22:55.440 they don't

01:22:56.400 know any

01:22:56.700 better how

01:22:57.040 would they

01:22:57.300 know how

01:22:57.900 would I

01:22:58.280 know the

01:22:59.160 point I'm

01:22:59.420 trying to

01:22:59.640 make is

01:23:00.100 these ancient

01:23:01.480 places that

01:23:02.540 look old we

01:23:03.900 don't know

01:23:04.800 they're old and

01:23:06.020 a lot of the

01:23:06.500 time they were

01:23:07.480 also rediscovered

01:23:08.580 in the last

01:23:09.020 hundred years

01:23:09.680 and again I'm

01:23:11.220 sitting in like

01:23:12.360 right now as we

01:23:12.980 record this

01:23:13.500 interview I'm

01:23:14.580 sitting here in

01:23:15.120 Plovdiv one of

01:23:15.700 the oldest

01:23:16.380 cities in the

01:23:17.680 world according

01:23:18.280 to the official

01:23:18.700 story but it's

01:23:20.640 the same as

01:23:21.080 everywhere else I've

01:23:21.640 looked into

01:23:22.020 things were

01:23:23.540 rediscovered a

01:23:24.120 hundred years

01:23:24.400 ago and so

01:23:25.420 what I'm

01:23:25.680 putting forward

01:23:26.100 is this idea

01:23:26.660 that the

01:23:27.580 documents don't

01:23:28.220 go back more

01:23:28.700 than a couple

01:23:29.060 hundred years

01:23:29.600 and the

01:23:30.320 ancient monuments

01:23:31.020 yeah they look

01:23:31.620 old sure and

01:23:32.560 everyone believes

01:23:33.100 they're old that

01:23:34.560 doesn't mean

01:23:35.060 they're old and

01:23:36.360 so I've come to

01:23:36.920 the conclusion

01:23:37.400 that this whole

01:23:37.920 place that we

01:23:38.340 live in might

01:23:39.640 be no more than

01:23:40.780 a couple hundred

01:23:41.160 years old it

01:23:42.000 might be I

01:23:42.360 don't know for

01:23:42.700 sure

01:23:42.960 so you

01:23:45.540 mentioned that

01:23:46.000 you're not

01:23:46.380 really Christian

01:23:47.840 or religious

01:23:49.060 have you heard

01:23:50.660 of the idea

01:23:51.300 of the little

01:23:52.100 season

01:23:52.520 nope but I'm

01:23:54.920 here to learn

01:23:55.400 okay the little

01:23:57.680 season is something

01:23:58.300 that I don't

01:23:59.220 personally subscribe

01:24:00.700 to but what

01:24:01.940 you're saying

01:24:02.580 kind of adds

01:24:03.360 veracity to it

01:24:04.220 so in the

01:24:05.900 Bible the book

01:24:06.780 of Revelation it

01:24:07.700 talks about the

01:24:08.440 seven years

01:24:09.100 talks about the

01:24:10.000 tribulation I'm

01:24:11.020 sure you're aware

01:24:11.680 the Antichrist

01:24:12.780 he comes after

01:24:15.140 his short reign

01:24:16.220 there is a

01:24:18.000 thousand year reign

01:24:18.780 of Jesus Christ

01:24:19.640 and he comes and

01:24:21.280 he rules humanity

01:24:22.600 with an iron rod

01:24:24.000 but before that

01:24:26.100 sorry after that

01:24:27.920 it says in the

01:24:29.700 Bible that God

01:24:31.540 will release Satan

01:24:33.800 for a little

01:24:34.980 season and Satan

01:24:37.000 will then take his

01:24:38.140 army throughout the

01:24:39.300 world and he will

01:24:40.600 declare war on

01:24:41.600 Jesus Christ and

01:24:42.640 God and this

01:24:44.840 new Jerusalem

01:24:45.560 and then that

01:24:47.460 will be the final

01:24:48.040 judgment he'll be

01:24:48.780 sent he'll be sent 1.00

01:24:49.980 to hell and he'll 1.00

01:24:51.000 live there he'll be 1.00

01:24:51.840 there for eternity

01:24:52.420 or destroyed

01:24:53.060 some people think

01:24:55.120 that we are in the

01:24:56.040 little season the

01:24:57.240 conventional thought

01:24:57.900 is that we are

01:24:58.440 waiting for the

01:24:59.280 Antichrist to come

01:25:00.180 and for the

01:25:01.380 tribulation to happen

01:25:02.200 with these seven

01:25:03.260 years right I'm

01:25:04.340 sure I'm sure you've

01:25:05.000 heard of that

01:25:05.380 little seasoners

01:25:07.840 very intense people

01:25:09.100 kind of annoying

01:25:10.020 kind of like the

01:25:11.080 flat earth community

01:25:11.840 they're like they're

01:25:12.860 vicious they'll go

01:25:13.660 after you they

01:25:14.880 think that there was

01:25:15.640 a slew of hidden

01:25:16.380 history things that

01:25:18.260 are maybe presented

01:25:20.340 as older or time

01:25:22.620 frames that were

01:25:23.400 changed around and

01:25:25.040 you're talking about

01:25:25.580 just the last 130

01:25:26.540 years I you know

01:25:28.580 part of me tends to

01:25:29.480 agree with you man

01:25:30.160 because it's like we

01:25:32.180 can't what do you

01:25:33.340 think history what do

01:25:34.240 think the history

01:25:34.660 books will say about

01:25:35.980 just COVID in

01:25:37.700 general depending on

01:25:39.300 which political side

01:25:40.060 wins you know one

01:25:41.660 history one side of

01:25:42.300 history will not

01:25:43.040 exist the other side

01:25:44.240 will be proliferated

01:25:45.160 and like like insane

01:25:46.440 and that will be the

01:25:47.960 truth um oh go ahead

01:25:50.640 top oh go ahead go

01:25:51.580 ahead I was just

01:25:52.360 gonna say these people

01:25:53.060 that believe the

01:25:54.000 little season which um

01:25:55.380 I deviate from top a

01:25:56.760 little bit in that I

01:25:57.600 see a lot of it's not

01:25:58.920 something that I it

01:25:59.980 takes a lot for me to

01:26:00.700 believe something but

01:26:01.740 I very well uh willing

01:26:04.040 to entertain something

01:26:05.060 and I can see a lot

01:26:07.000 of why people make

01:26:07.880 this argument for the

01:26:08.600 little season and

01:26:09.180 then we'll point to

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01:27:10.840 what we identify now is

01:27:13.080 like Tartaria as being

01:27:14.960 remnants of the

01:27:16.060 millennial kingdom so I

01:27:17.200 mean there is like this

01:27:18.460 precedent for really

01:27:19.900 tremendous architecture

01:27:21.500 that seemingly has no

01:27:24.140 place in history right and

01:27:25.440 that's kind of the

01:27:26.040 Tartaria thing and and

01:27:27.480 clearly there was some

01:27:28.560 sort of a tremendous

01:27:29.520 mud flood or else you

01:27:31.340 wouldn't find these

01:27:31.900 subterranean levels that

01:27:32.980 seem to be they seem to

01:27:36.600 have been meant to be at

01:27:37.880 street level but for some

01:27:39.640 reason they're buried

01:27:40.400 under underneath all this

01:27:41.780 dirt and then you know

01:27:45.140 there's the orphan trains

01:27:46.340 kind of a scenario I think

01:27:47.920 that happens around the

01:27:49.000 same time right the 1940s is

01:27:51.020 is when the orphan trains

01:27:52.120 thing took off where all

01:27:54.000 of a sudden we're just

01:27:55.240 inundated with a bunch of

01:27:56.780 you know parentless children

01:27:58.460 on trains and between

01:28:02.080 those things and a little

01:28:03.760 bit of like lost time some

01:28:06.460 people make arguments for

01:28:07.500 like we're missing like

01:28:08.340 700 years or we're missing

01:28:09.600 like a thousand years or

01:28:10.540 something like that where it

01:28:12.860 just seems like we made a

01:28:13.680 jump all of a sudden

01:28:14.700 there's a lot of really

01:28:15.580 compelling evidence where if

01:28:17.020 you look at it separately

01:28:18.080 it's confusing but if you

01:28:19.800 look at all this anecdotal

01:28:20.840 evidence together it starts

01:28:23.580 to paint a very strange

01:28:24.560 picture so it seems that

01:28:27.640 we have been lied to as

01:28:29.080 far as the timeline what

01:28:30.240 do you think is going on

01:28:31.020 here well I think about

01:28:33.360 this stuff a lot and I

01:28:34.300 want to share with you my

01:28:34.920 theory about that but

01:28:35.640 first I can see you've got

01:28:36.380 on the screen there this

01:28:37.020 is Konstantin von

01:28:38.180 Tischendorf now you think

01:28:39.940 about it we spent how long

01:28:41.000 at school in Australia it

01:28:42.180 used to be 13 years seven

01:28:43.980 years primary school six

01:28:45.060 years high school I

01:28:46.440 understand you guys have

01:28:47.160 three levels of school but

01:28:48.900 they probably add to what

01:28:49.740 12 years thereabouts you

01:28:51.160 spend all this time at

01:28:52.080 school but most of us

01:28:53.560 come away and we've never

01:28:54.700 heard of Konstantin von

01:28:56.620 Tischendorf who was a

01:28:58.420 German biblical scholar in

01:29:00.360 1844 he discovered the

01:29:02.840 world's oldest and most

01:29:04.260 complete bible dated around

01:29:06.400 the mid-fourth century and

01:29:08.060 he called the Codex

01:29:09.600 Sinaiticus after St

01:29:11.680 Catherine's monastery at

01:29:12.580 Mount Sinai he also was

01:29:14.900 the one who deciphered the

01:29:16.440 Codex Ephraimia scriptus a

01:29:18.240 5th century Greek manuscript of

01:29:20.280 the New Testament and if you

01:29:22.020 look into it what are the

01:29:22.940 primary sources of the bible

01:29:24.060 because the bible in your

01:29:25.060 house or in your hotel or

01:29:27.240 in your Sunday school that

01:29:28.900 bible was printed last week

01:29:30.920 10 years ago 50 years ago

01:29:32.420 maybe you've got one that's

01:29:33.140 been passed down in your

01:29:33.880 family for 100 years but

01:29:35.180 obviously that bible doesn't

01:29:36.040 come from the alleged time of

01:29:38.020 Jesus or of his disciples or

01:29:39.580 any of this stuff like

01:29:40.240 Matthew James the rest of

01:29:41.080 them so what are they based

01:29:43.100 on this book where does it

01:29:44.480 come from well it turns out

01:29:45.980 according to the official

01:29:46.720 story that the bible as we

01:29:48.380 know it today stems from the

01:29:50.880 Codex Sinaiticus that's the

01:29:53.020 one associated with

01:29:53.740 Tischendorf and the Codex

01:29:55.540 Verticanus which supposedly

01:29:57.320 was sitting underneath the

01:29:58.540 Vatican for hundreds or a

01:29:59.800 thousand years before someone

01:30:01.380 came along and rediscovered

01:30:02.540 that now the reason I'm

01:30:03.660 telling you this is because

01:30:04.460 it's not just with the

01:30:05.780 stories like Caesar or

01:30:07.380 Herodotus or the library of

01:30:09.120 Alexandria or any of this

01:30:10.100 even the bible if somebody

01:30:12.340 were to try to find out okay

01:30:13.780 these words that are printed on

01:30:15.800 this paper in this book that I

01:30:17.320 have whether I think these

01:30:19.080 are the words of Jesus or

01:30:20.340 not where does this come

01:30:22.500 from what is this a copy of

01:30:24.600 what was the original if

01:30:26.720 somebody was to seriously

01:30:28.300 want to find out the answers

01:30:29.320 to that and putting the time

01:30:30.900 and the effort they're going

01:30:32.100 to come back to those

01:30:32.800 codices that I just told you

01:30:33.840 about Sinaiticus and

01:30:35.240 Verticanus and they're going 1.00

01:30:36.580 to discover once again we're

01:30:37.700 talking the last couple

01:30:38.560 hundred years as crazy as

01:30:40.760 that sounds now here's where

01:30:41.660 it gets really weird I come

01:30:42.980 along and I tell people this

01:30:43.940 stuff and I've been talking

01:30:45.240 about this stuff publicly now

01:30:46.700 for like seven or eight years

01:30:48.160 in fact I went on the

01:30:49.180 high side chats with Greg

01:30:50.300 Carwood I'm guessing you

01:30:52.020 guys have heard of Greg

01:30:52.900 Carwood we met him we met

01:30:55.700 him at a Sam Tripoli show

01:30:57.080 not too long ago yeah cool

01:30:58.900 that's awesome I want to

01:30:59.740 hear more about that I'm

01:31:00.780 going to write that down I

01:31:01.480 want you guys to tell me

01:31:02.360 about that that's really

01:31:02.920 cool all right so you met

01:31:04.160 Tripoli and Greg Carwood

01:31:06.720 well that's cool actually we

01:31:08.360 do a bi-yearly event called

01:31:10.580 Broheemian Grove and

01:31:12.120 annually the chat has roasted

01:31:13.720 me for for messing up that

01:31:15.160 it's semi-annually it took me

01:31:16.480 it's not bi-annually okay

01:31:18.040 well Sam Tripoli was the

01:31:20.300 first uh headliner for the

01:31:22.440 first Broheemian Grove and

01:31:24.360 we're hoping to get him

01:31:25.100 again yeah he's he's he's

01:31:26.600 great he's I mean one of the

01:31:28.360 best people we know yeah

01:31:29.780 all right I've written that

01:31:30.560 down Broheemian Grove before

01:31:31.620 we wrap up this show today I

01:31:32.640 want you to tell me about

01:31:33.340 that so you know who Greg

01:31:34.720 Carwood is the high side

01:31:35.460 chats so I went on his show

01:31:37.000 like 2018 so we're talking

01:31:39.200 the best part of seven years

01:31:40.260 ago now and in the first hour

01:31:42.900 because you know there's like

01:31:43.540 one hour public one hour

01:31:44.620 behind the paywall the first

01:31:46.500 hour with me and him became

01:31:47.560 90 minutes and I went

01:31:48.880 through all of this in detail

01:31:50.540 this what I call the history

01:31:52.340 hoax and I was basically

01:31:54.160 saying to people look this

01:31:55.420 is going to be heard by tens

01:31:56.480 of thousands of people many

01:31:57.900 of whom believe in history and

01:31:59.200 want to believe in it come and

01:32:00.640 debunk me please for the love

01:32:02.240 of God come and debunk me if

01:32:03.860 I'm wrong if my method doesn't

01:32:05.220 work if any of these stories

01:32:06.960 of ancient history supposed

01:32:08.160 actually do go back to primary

01:32:09.940 sources where you can trace the

01:32:12.120 chain of custody of these

01:32:12.980 documents more than a couple

01:32:14.340 hundred years if that's the

01:32:15.960 case find one email me come

01:32:18.240 and tell me make a video I

01:32:19.520 will be the first to put your

01:32:21.420 research on my channel I'll

01:32:23.060 admit I was wrong I'd love to

01:32:24.260 be wrong about this actually

01:32:25.140 tens of thousands I mean I

01:32:26.900 don't even know what Greg

01:32:27.500 Carwood's audience is but it's

01:32:28.600 at the very least it's in the

01:32:30.340 tens of thousands maybe an

01:32:32.020 order to have made an order of

01:32:33.420 magnitude more than that so

01:32:34.500 lots of people have heard my

01:32:35.800 theory and they've heard me

01:32:36.780 explain this audience and it's

01:32:38.280 big enough for him to have a

01:32:39.500 car that's wrapped in higher

01:32:40.980 side chat logos there you go

01:32:46.080 so the dude is successful and

01:32:47.560 he has a huge audience many of

01:32:49.440 whom it's fair to infer are

01:32:50.780 intelligent thoughtful and

01:32:52.260 willing to do a bit of

01:32:53.100 research because they're

01:32:53.880 curious would you like to

01:32:55.700 guess how now a lot of

01:32:56.800 people came to my website I

01:32:57.860 got a lot of traffic some of

01:32:59.120 them even came and joined

01:32:59.820 johnabond.com okay so the

01:33:01.880 episode was heard and some

01:33:03.000 people really liked it and in

01:33:04.300 fact it got like a hundred

01:33:05.080 comments on his behind the

01:33:06.900 paywall section which at that

01:33:08.500 time the average episode was

01:33:09.480 getting 30 or 40 so it had

01:33:10.940 quite quite an impact made

01:33:12.900 quite a splash so people

01:33:14.380 heard it now would you like

01:33:15.940 to guess how many people

01:33:17.300 contacted me one way or

01:33:19.740 another with a story of

01:33:21.300 history that they had traced

01:33:22.600 the sources for and found

01:33:24.220 the original documents more

01:33:25.700 than a couple hundred years

01:33:26.460 old would you like to guess

01:33:27.380 how many knowing people I

01:33:28.580 would say zero zero which

01:33:32.260 leads to the inference that

01:33:34.060 one of two things have

01:33:34.820 happened here either that

01:33:37.700 evidence might be out there

01:33:39.220 but none of these people

01:33:40.960 have searched for it and so

01:33:42.960 that's why no one's come to

01:33:43.880 debunk me okay or that

01:33:46.900 evidence doesn't exist and

01:33:48.100 people did search for it

01:33:49.260 either of those cases we've

01:33:52.080 got an issue here fellas

01:33:52.940 because if that evidence

01:33:54.460 doesn't exist then the

01:33:56.020 history hoax as I'm putting

01:33:56.920 it forward is confirmed or if

01:33:59.600 people aren't checking this

01:34:00.940 stuff if not a single one out

01:34:02.660 of 10,000 50,000 100,000

01:34:05.000 people whatever it is if not a

01:34:06.560 single one thought you know

01:34:07.680 what this JLB guy this

01:34:08.900 somewhat smug Aussie sounding

01:34:11.860 dude thinks there is no

01:34:13.080 sources I'm going to debunk

01:34:14.020 if not a single one took the

01:34:16.160 time to debunk me then this

01:34:18.320 supports the point I'm trying

01:34:19.380 to make people aren't

01:34:20.660 checking this stuff nobody's

01:34:22.540 checking they can have a

01:34:23.820 bible in their house that 0.98

01:34:24.720 they read to their kids

01:34:25.600 they've never checked where

01:34:26.860 does this really come from or

01:34:28.120 they could have an

01:34:28.700 encyclopedia Britannica sitting

01:34:30.400 on their shelf they haven't

01:34:31.620 checked these sources that

01:34:33.180 the encyclopedia claims to

01:34:34.380 have are these like no one's

01:34:36.260 checking fellas no one

01:34:37.300 literally nobody no one not

01:34:40.200 a single person until I came

01:34:42.180 along and then some people

01:34:44.180 tried to copy this idea and

01:34:46.480 they came back to me said

01:34:47.280 yeah I got the same results

01:34:48.140 you did JLB the only people

01:34:49.480 who contacted me have been

01:34:50.720 the ones who said man I

01:34:51.400 can't believe it but I

01:34:52.760 checked this story this

01:34:53.680 story some of these people

01:34:54.720 check stories I never heard

01:34:55.640 of before they're like we

01:34:56.860 were taught this story as

01:34:57.600 kids so I heard you on this

01:34:59.360 show I heard you on that

01:35:00.100 show I tried to check it and

01:35:01.420 they sent me in these emails

01:35:02.420 like the research they've

01:35:03.180 done it's phenomenal they've

01:35:04.520 all come to the same

01:35:05.140 conclusion as me so the

01:35:06.260 small the relatively small

01:35:07.480 number of people who've

01:35:08.160 actually tried to trace the

01:35:09.600 sources get the same result

01:35:10.820 as me not a single person

01:35:12.340 has got a different result

01:35:13.040 yet now to me the conclusion

01:35:15.760 from all of this is very

01:35:16.500 obvious but it's not a

01:35:18.080 conclusion most people want

01:35:19.060 to countenance because in

01:35:20.540 their heads they've got all

01:35:21.420 these stories of ancient

01:35:22.900 Egyptians ancient Romans

01:35:24.340 disciples and Jesus they've got

01:35:26.340 all these stories in their

01:35:27.000 head they don't want to let

01:35:27.680 go of humans we love

01:35:28.980 stories we don't let go of

01:35:29.840 them very easily and what I'm

01:35:31.080 putting forward doesn't mesh

01:35:32.580 with that so they just forget

01:35:34.680 about it and tomorrow is

01:35:35.800 another day they'll listen to

01:35:37.160 another podcast and forget

01:35:38.160 they ever heard this but that

01:35:39.660 very small percentage of

01:35:41.140 people who are genuinely

01:35:42.940 curious and who actually want

01:35:44.860 to base their opinions on

01:35:46.180 evidence and are willing to

01:35:47.780 go looking for it will come to

01:35:49.260 the same conclusion as me

01:35:50.040 ancient history is a 0.90

01:35:51.560 complete load of nonsense as 0.99

01:35:52.960 crazy as that sounds folks 0.97

01:35:54.660 remember I started all of this

01:35:55.960 off back in 2013 minding my

01:35:58.300 own business and some dude

01:36:00.200 says how come this victim of

01:36:01.560 a bombing their trousers look

01:36:03.280 like they've been cut with

01:36:03.880 scissors that's how this all

01:36:04.980 started I didn't know I had

01:36:07.920 no idea that I'd be sitting

01:36:09.040 here one day in 2025 talking

01:36:11.120 to some lovely dudes from

01:36:11.980 America called the Nephilim

01:36:13.000 death squad telling them

01:36:14.140 folks ancient history is a 0.69

01:36:15.820 hoax nobody died nobody got

01:36:17.560 hurt in some Roman Colosseum

01:36:19.240 2000 years ago I didn't

01:36:20.880 expect this I didn't predict

01:36:21.880 it I'll be quite frank I

01:36:23.200 didn't want it but here we are

01:36:24.020 fellas this is where we are

01:36:25.240 right now well that's it's a

01:36:27.580 big jump it's a big jump to

01:36:28.920 say nobody died in the

01:36:30.020 Colosseum from but I I

01:36:31.540 understand that you're

01:36:32.480 hitting a wall so around

01:36:33.640 1850 or they like the mid

01:36:35.620 1800s there's just nothing

01:36:37.220 before that is what you're

01:36:38.240 saying nothing to verify like

01:36:39.840 you you pull this thread and

01:36:40.960 that's where it stops yeah

01:36:43.020 well roughly even the 1700s

01:36:45.100 some of the so-called

01:36:45.820 translations will go back to

01:36:47.160 about even I'm even going to

01:36:48.920 be really generous some of

01:36:50.500 these Germans for some reason

01:36:51.820 the Germans are huge the 0.90

01:36:53.140 Germans I shouldn't say for 1.00

01:36:54.140 some reason a lot of the

01:36:55.060 texts go back to

01:36:56.080 translations that were done

01:36:57.320 by Germans supposedly on

01:37:00.320 original source material

01:37:01.400 that's no longer available

01:37:02.460 so you can take their so

01:37:03.960 called translation on face

01:37:04.980 value which is what

01:37:06.060 historians have done ever

01:37:07.500 since you can take their

01:37:08.820 stories on face value if you

01:37:09.680 want you're getting back to

01:37:10.760 the 1600s in some cases but

01:37:12.780 a lot of these stories it's

01:37:13.980 the 1800s but if you want to

01:37:15.360 be really generous yeah the

01:37:16.800 1600s is as far back as

01:37:18.400 you'll get so yeah let me

01:37:20.400 just get this straight um

01:37:21.960 all right so 1844 is when

01:37:23.480 the codex cyanaticus is uh

01:37:25.180 discovered by this uh this

01:37:27.140 doctor I don't even know his

01:37:28.160 name Constantine um but

01:37:31.300 it's an amazing story too do

01:37:32.700 you want to know the story the

01:37:33.440 official story is he found

01:37:34.920 monks they found monks burn he

01:37:37.840 found monks in a monastery

01:37:39.880 burning this original document

01:37:42.440 for heat okay so he just

01:37:45.200 happened now this is the

01:37:46.220 official story folks he just

01:37:47.600 happened by amazing chance to

01:37:50.560 turn up to the monastery

01:37:51.520 because he was searching you

01:37:52.620 see he was searching the the

01:37:54.020 old world for this um these

01:37:56.240 texts these biblical texts he

01:37:58.040 just happened to find the

01:37:58.940 monastery at just the right

01:38:00.380 time and he sees these monks

01:38:02.220 burning some papyrus or some

01:38:04.340 old uh paper as we might call

01:38:06.400 it for warmth and he wanders

01:38:08.120 over and he says boys what are

01:38:09.080 you cooking here and he's he's

01:38:10.400 like he picks up a piece of

01:38:11.260 paper he says goodness

01:38:12.460 gracious me this is the 0.98

01:38:13.800 freaking bible you got to stop 0.99

01:38:15.020 burning this stuff boys in 0.98

01:38:15.960 fact I'll take it with me back

01:38:17.080 to Germany that's the official

01:38:18.860 story and no one knows that

01:38:21.160 how come they don't teach us

01:38:22.820 that in school how come no

01:38:24.920 one knows that how come all

01:38:25.960 these people who come to me

01:38:26.880 with all these bible quotes

01:38:27.940 and they're talking about

01:38:28.560 Jesus and stuff how come

01:38:29.600 they don't know where the

01:38:30.200 bible supposedly comes from

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01:39:30.660 dot com why would they know

01:39:32.660 humans don't go searching for 0.97

01:39:34.420 source material for whatever

01:39:35.940 reason it is not in our makeup

01:39:38.000 whether by nature or nurture we

01:39:39.680 don't check this stuff it takes

01:39:41.420 some really autismo guy some

01:39:44.500 strange dude from Brisbane

01:39:46.040 Australia to say you know what

01:39:47.840 I've got the weekend free I'm

01:39:49.840 gonna sit here and read stuff and

01:39:51.660 take notes who does that who the

01:39:54.860 hell does this that's bizarre most

01:39:56.960 people are too busy living their

01:39:57.940 lives they're too busy going to

01:39:59.460 work yeah they're too busy picking

01:40:00.780 their kids up from school taking

01:40:02.160 them to soccer practice John I

01:40:03.580 mean it's like we have these

01:40:04.860 machinations leveraged against us

01:40:06.200 they kind of ensure that we don't

01:40:07.340 have extra time to do things like

01:40:10.680 that I mean I'm definitely down

01:40:12.800 with the idea that just and this

01:40:14.700 is just based off of like an

01:40:15.740 intuitive feeling that we've been

01:40:17.240 lied to on a massive scale

01:40:18.360 especially in regards to history

01:40:19.940 do you find I want to ask you this

01:40:23.760 about like the Chicago fair what is

01:40:26.500 it the world's fair and this idea

01:40:29.440 now of Tartaria how did how did

01:40:31.280 these ideas play with what you've

01:40:33.600 discovered well the world's fair

01:40:35.560 stuff I find really interesting and

01:40:36.940 I haven't spent enough time doing a

01:40:38.280 deep dive into it but I did hear one

01:40:40.380 of the high side chat episodes maybe a

01:40:42.680 year or two ago one of his guests was

01:40:45.440 from stolen history dot org I think the

01:40:48.220 forum is called and the reason I never

01:40:51.000 got really I never really did a deep

01:40:53.420 dive into their work originally was

01:40:55.120 because when I tried to join their

01:40:56.220 forum they instantly banned me and back

01:40:58.560 then I was I'm serious and back then

01:41:01.120 and I joined under the name John

01:41:02.160 Le Bon and so back then I was a little

01:41:04.740 bit more shall we say maybe not

01:41:07.480 conspiratorial but I was like oh I see

01:41:09.940 I see how it is someone who's doing the

01:41:12.940 actual research into history is not

01:41:14.880 welcome at stolen history because

01:41:17.440 they've got their alternative

01:41:18.500 narratives that they want to push the

01:41:20.180 person who comes along and cares about

01:41:21.880 the primary source material of course

01:41:24.840 they'll instantly ban him so I you know

01:41:27.660 that Michael Jordan documentary where he

01:41:29.380 says I took that personally and they

01:41:31.220 instantly banned me I kind of took that

01:41:33.600 personally and so I forgot about them I

01:41:35.740 ignored them and then years later I

01:41:37.460 heard one of their dudes on the high

01:41:38.640 side chats and he made a really good

01:41:39.820 case or I felt he presented himself

01:41:41.580 really well and I've been meaning to go

01:41:42.840 back and try and re-register there or

01:41:44.960 what have you so the world's fair stuff I

01:41:46.620 haven't spent enough time looking into

01:41:48.420 too deeply but to go back to your

01:41:49.860 question 1800s you hit a wall you put

01:41:51.860 it really well you hit a wall there was

01:41:53.460 a film called the 13th floor that came

01:41:56.260 out in about 1998 or 99 so around the

01:41:59.360 same time as the matrix the Truman show

01:42:01.660 dark city a lot of these films came out

01:42:04.180 just before 9-11 and they seem to have

01:42:06.980 these esoteric ideas embedded within them

01:42:09.560 have either of you seen the 13th floor I

01:42:11.820 wonder I don't think so I've not seen it

01:42:14.220 but I'm familiar with the idea that for

01:42:15.560 whatever reason high or skyscrapers will

01:42:19.580 skip any high-rise building will skip the

01:42:21.840 13th floor allegedly for superstitious 0.58

01:42:24.480 reasons is that connected no that's a

01:42:27.800 different thing or maybe that's why the

01:42:29.880 people who made that movie called it the

01:42:31.440 13th floor to do with the whole luck or

01:42:33.020 chance thing that that could be a

01:42:34.500 relationship there but it's called the

01:42:35.960 13th floor and basically I don't want to

01:42:38.660 spoil the story because I you know

01:42:39.980 there's people who go around to people

01:42:41.020 and say oh you've got to see this movie

01:42:42.240 you've got to see that TV show I don't

01:42:44.220 like these people and I don't want to be

01:42:45.560 one of those people but I'm going to be

01:42:47.220 one today the 13th floor I highly

01:42:49.800 recommend it so I won't spoil it for

01:42:51.560 anybody but basically there are these

01:42:54.960 dudes back in the 90s who are trying to

01:42:58.840 develop an artificial reality that is

01:43:01.580 believable okay so that that's their

01:43:04.020 mission they've invested a lot of money

01:43:05.420 they want to create an artificial reality

01:43:07.560 that is believable and then they start

01:43:09.880 playing around in it like they get so

01:43:11.800 good at it instead of just developing the

01:43:14.460 technology to sell it or whatever the plan

01:43:16.120 was they start playing around in it and

01:43:18.980 that's when some problems start to occur and

01:43:22.260 in the artificial reality all of the people

01:43:25.760 think they're real they don't know that

01:43:29.300 they're fake now of course these guys are

01:43:31.540 developing the technology they don't want

01:43:33.640 the NPCs to know their NPCs that would

01:43:36.580 ruin the whole thing what they've done is

01:43:38.520 they've only got enough tech to build one

01:43:39.960 city they haven't built a whole world now

01:43:42.540 how do you stop the NPCs from finding out

01:43:44.820 that they're in a fake world just keep

01:43:46.700 them in the one city that actually does

01:43:47.980 work so what happens is for an NPC to

01:43:51.300 find out that they're in a constructed

01:43:53.760 reality the easiest way or the only way

01:43:56.180 for them to do it is to try and take a

01:43:58.380 long drive outside of the city so the next

01:44:01.560 city over is Tucson so I'm guessing

01:44:03.740 Tucson Arizona right so if you were to

01:44:06.720 take a drive you would never leave the

01:44:08.320 city you've got your job you've got your

01:44:09.960 wife your kids why would you ever leave

01:44:12.000 but if someone finds out the key the

01:44:14.700 secret if somebody unveils the NPCs

01:44:17.520 what's really going on and that NPC tries

01:44:20.060 to test it or not even NPC these might be

01:44:22.180 real entities who's to say who's real and

01:44:24.020 who's fake in this reality but the point

01:44:26.000 is the test is to take a drive which no one

01:44:29.360 ever does but if they do they eventually

01:44:31.800 reach the wireframe mesh as far as the

01:44:34.580 construct goes and I use that as an

01:44:37.420 analogy for this reality that we're in

01:44:39.180 people think that this place has been

01:44:41.840 here for thousands of years they think

01:44:43.280 human civilization has been here for

01:44:44.740 thousands of years they're never going to

01:44:46.320 test that and I'm the guy to say you can

01:44:48.760 test it pick a story pick any story and

01:44:51.700 try to find out what are the sources what

01:44:53.460 are the references then you'll find that

01:44:55.460 book or that document find out what are

01:44:57.960 its references and sources it's going to

01:44:59.940 take you many hours okay many many hours

01:45:01.800 it's boring especially because I started

01:45:03.960 doing this seven eight nine years ago

01:45:05.440 back when we didn't have all the apps and

01:45:07.800 the gamification of the internet and all

01:45:10.080 of the vaporable THC and all this stuff

01:45:12.520 that has just rotted our brains so even

01:45:14.820 eight or nine years ago it was hard to

01:45:16.160 encourage people to set aside the time to

01:45:17.900 do this these days I've got no chance but

01:45:20.180 if somebody wanted to test this reality all

01:45:23.020 they would have to do is pick a story or an

01:45:25.720 event from history and try and trace the

01:45:27.780 sources and they will hit the wireframe

01:45:29.980 mesh in the movie the 13th floor that is a

01:45:32.680 location anywhere too far away from the

01:45:34.480 city you hit the wireframe mesh in our

01:45:36.240 reality in this place it's history our

01:45:38.740 history only goes back a couple hundred

01:45:40.180 years but to find this out you've got to

01:45:42.280 get in your car and drive to Tucson you've

01:45:43.980 got to sit in front of your computer get

01:45:45.500 some books maybe go to the library

01:45:46.660 whatever it's going to take some time

01:45:48.240 to take the notes trace the sources you

01:45:50.140 won't get back more than a couple hundred

01:45:51.360 years because that's when this place

01:45:52.180 begins I am the person here to tell you

01:45:54.300 you can test this but I can't drive you

01:45:56.340 to the wall I can't drive you to the

01:45:58.060 wireframe mesh you have to want to go

01:45:59.700 there and do you know how much people

01:46:01.500 want to go there they don't they would

01:46:03.960 rather sit there and watch Netflix or

01:46:06.660 bong on vape their THC eat their edibles

01:46:09.460 drink their beers watch their sports

01:46:10.840 ball listen to the latest podcast about 0.99

01:46:12.880 some bullshit ancient aliens they'll do 1.00

01:46:14.720 all of this what they won't do my 0.99

01:46:16.340 friends is get a pen some paper and put a

01:46:19.600 few hours into taking the notes I would

01:46:21.960 be super interested to hear you have a

01:46:24.080 conversation with Paul Stobbs which

01:46:26.800 again I already did I interviewed him

01:46:29.500 for the conversations last year and it

01:46:31.720 was because of him I had to look into

01:46:33.380 this book of Enoch because obviously

01:46:35.200 he's into the Nephilim right this is

01:46:37.100 Paul Stobbs of understanding conspiracy

01:46:38.920 yeah and I can send you a link if you

01:46:41.240 want to put this in the show notes on my

01:46:42.320 chat with him awesome dude to chat with

01:46:44.340 very intelligent well-spoken he's got a

01:46:46.100 great sense of humor I can't say enough

01:46:48.580 highly about the guy ultimately though a

01:46:51.060 lot of his material goes back to this

01:46:52.940 book of Enoch right that's where this

01:46:54.220 Nephilim idea comes from well not I mean

01:46:56.880 you should talk to him more recently is

01:46:59.020 what I mean because uh one of his new

01:47:01.320 theories he yeah he has a book about the

01:47:03.680 Nephilim looking like clowns and this is

01:47:05.140 obviously he's using ancient history and 0.61

01:47:07.400 mythology to discover this stuff but yeah

01:47:10.780 his work on the little season has been

01:47:13.100 something that we've been looking at for

01:47:15.240 the last year or so so I don't even think

01:47:16.800 that came across your table but he's the

01:47:18.360 guy that sort of came up with this or not

01:47:22.480 I don't even know if he came up with this

01:47:23.640 idea that he came up with it but he he

01:47:25.600 articulates it really well and he he does

01:47:28.320 a great job of presenting supporting

01:47:29.900 evidence for the idea I think that your

01:47:32.780 idea here of this ancient history this

01:47:35.780 hidden history that's not real that it's

01:47:37.840 hitting a wall it would pair nicely with

01:47:40.600 his because he's he's trying to figure out

01:47:43.180 how to present this in a compelling manner and

01:47:45.920 that's one of the things that stops me

01:47:47.560 from buying that theory is that I'm like

01:47:50.520 the ancient the ancient history doesn't

01:47:53.040 make sense like well biblically it says

01:47:55.480 that uh I don't know like the topography of

01:47:59.100 the earth will be different so I'm like we

01:48:01.560 don't know what about what about all these

01:48:03.020 old buildings and he's uh he's kind of

01:48:05.200 like struggling to explain what it is but I

01:48:07.200 think pairing your your theory here about

01:48:10.560 ancient history and his theory about this uh

01:48:13.720 um the thousand years that are lost to time

01:48:17.260 and why like like why all of a sudden do we

01:48:19.760 pick up at you know 1700s basically yeah and

01:48:23.200 what happened not even necessarily that he so

01:48:25.340 even the millennial reign of Christ is I've

01:48:27.640 heard people make an argument that like when

01:48:29.940 you say the millennial reign it doesn't

01:48:31.740 necessarily mean like a solid thousand

01:48:33.220 years it just means like a long chunk of

01:48:35.500 time I don't know where I fall on it but

01:48:37.380 like I said I do see what people are

01:48:39.580 pointing out but but my question for you

01:48:41.540 John is like um let's take this for for you

01:48:46.420 know a ride this thought experiment our our

01:48:48.580 history for whatever reason only goes back

01:48:50.220 as far back potentially as the 1600s um this

01:48:54.000 has only been we've only been here for a few

01:48:55.760 hundred years what why then do you suspect

01:48:58.820 they would uh orchestrate such a dynamic lie

01:49:04.000 to obscure that fact and then try to convince

01:49:08.020 us that we've been here for a lot longer and

01:49:10.620 and obviously if if this is true um then

01:49:14.080 you're you have to throw out uh evolution

01:49:16.880 right you have to throw out um uh just

01:49:20.440 ancient hominids and things of that nature

01:49:22.240 uh and the the time frame for these early

01:49:24.860 civilizations the sumerians and and the mayans

01:49:27.600 and such did they even exist um and if they

01:49:31.200 did then they wouldn't have existed that

01:49:33.060 long ago why the um obfuscation and why try

01:49:38.460 to convince us the opposite okay that's a very

01:49:41.460 good question so first of all and i know i keep

01:49:43.980 referring to different like you guys brought up

01:49:45.420 the truman show which i'm happy that you did

01:49:46.780 because that's a useful feeling i've brought up

01:49:47.960 the 13th floor sometimes it's useful to use

01:49:50.160 books or movies that people are familiar with

01:49:51.700 to help conceptualize things and so there was a

01:49:54.200 movie called the village about 20 years ago

01:49:57.640 which uh maybe you guys yeah well i was i was still

01:50:01.780 in high school so it's about 20 years ago i would

01:50:03.820 say in fact i'm gonna look it up right now

01:50:05.320 m night yeah that's right yep

01:50:06.780 yeah so 2004 yeah 21 years ago and i remember

01:50:11.200 because i still remember who i went and watched

01:50:12.600 that movie with at the cinemas

01:50:13.720 yeah the village was it anyway

01:50:15.240 i liked it yeah i did i never checked and i went

01:50:18.560 back and re-watched it last year

01:50:20.160 and i liked it again but i've kind of got a

01:50:22.800 i kind of like joaquin phoenix for some

01:50:24.620 reason i like him as an actor yeah

01:50:26.640 but i never went and watched that one last

01:50:28.540 year about was it bonaparte well who was that

01:50:30.360 one about time yeah napoleon napoleon i

01:50:33.400 didn't watch that either but i loved him in

01:50:35.360 signs which is another m night shamalan film

01:50:37.400 uh and there's a couple of really good ones

01:50:39.980 gladiator he was also in her i think that

01:50:42.140 was 2007 the one with the ai girlfriend which

01:50:45.140 is so impressive like if you go back and

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01:51:48.140 this is a movie from ages ago you get back and re-watch it now it's like holy crap man

01:51:52.000 because back then it was science fiction this idea of a guy having an ai girlfriend

01:51:55.500 that was just bizarro sci-fi at the time still an interesting story but it was it's

01:52:00.640 it's science fiction in the sense of it's a totally hypothetical landscape that's kind

01:52:04.200 of what makes sci-fi so fun it's it's a setting that just isn't real whereas today

01:52:07.900 that is real that is possible very much so so yeah he was in coos 0.86

01:52:11.440 anyway i don't remember if you if you remember that john the the the sex uh talk or dirty 0.90

01:52:17.940 talk whatever you would call it um they did that like over the phone uh her and him so

01:52:22.740 the the screen just goes black and you're sitting in the audience and you're just listening

01:52:25.540 to the moans of joaquin phoenix and scarlett johansson very uncomfortably uh alongside the

01:52:30.040 rest of the audience very weird uh very weird but very well made and then the scene

01:52:36.020 where she has a boyfriend like she's been cheating on the on the main character who she 1.00

01:52:41.860 been cheating on him with yeah that um what was that for alan watt yeah the philosopher

01:52:47.120 and uh so they've got like an ai version of alan watt very well made film her i recommend people

01:52:52.800 check it out like i said especially given what we now know about ai which by the way if you said

01:52:56.900 me five years ago ai is it real is it fake i would have said fake i would have said like what we have

01:53:01.300 today i didn't think was coming in five years time five years ago or in 10 years time it blows me

01:53:07.320 away how powerful ai is and i can't believe more people don't talk about it maybe they're not trying

01:53:11.140 it out they're not practicing it maybe people don't realize how much people are using ai like a lot of

01:53:16.420 youngsters now they're just using ai to give them book summaries of what's in the book i think we're

01:53:22.480 already at the stage where the idea of people reading books is over people buy books don't get me

01:53:26.120 wrong but i have so many books i don't read i'm like one day the grid's gonna go down and when

01:53:31.460 the power goes out and we only have candlelight then i'll make use of my my personal library of

01:53:36.380 all these books that i purchase and do not read yeah i'm one of those terrible people i'm not saying

01:53:41.640 you're terrible i don't read enough books either myself i try to use this excuse of yeah but i i'm a

01:53:49.660 traveler i'm a digital nomad so i can't afford to have books guys i've lived in this apartment for

01:53:54.440 three years if i used to be a nomad i'm not anymore what's my excuse i'm just not reading

01:53:58.660 enough books i think most of us aren't but anyway to get back to this the village so the village comes

01:54:02.420 out 20 years ago in the film i don't want to spoil it for the viewers but for the listeners but most

01:54:06.280 of them have seen it in the village it turns out that the conspiracy the plan it's about the elders

01:54:14.180 setting the lie up creating this breakaway civilization and the elders know they're going to die

01:54:20.780 and then their kids will fully believe that they live in this old what from a couple hundred years

01:54:28.200 ago civilization rudimentary no electricity the way that the rest of the world has it certainly no

01:54:34.580 internet they're going to live a simple life away from the evils of the modern world and so i think

01:54:40.000 in our reality and i asked you guys earlier do you think the people who run the show are evil

01:54:43.460 i think it's entirely possible that the people at the top of our social structure today they're not

01:54:49.360 lying they believe the stories too whoever set this place up are long gone and almost everybody now

01:54:58.040 including hillary clinton bill clinton george bush barack obama any of these people maybe they're

01:55:04.900 privy to some stuff that we are not privy to sure why not but in terms of how we really got here

01:55:08.940 they could fully believe the stories of ancient history the way that everybody else does and as

01:55:13.400 an example of that there was this photo of one of trump's daughters giving birth many years ago

01:55:18.980 like 2016 or thereabouts she gives birth she's in the hospital someone's taking a photo of her like

01:55:23.620 not um like she knew she was a photo being taken of it she's there she's got the baby in her in her 0.87

01:55:28.500 arms and she looks absolutely exhausted depleted the way you would expect from a from a hospital birth

01:55:33.720 the way it's all done the medical industry yeah now why is trump's daughter giving birth in a

01:55:37.700 hospital if they knew the truth about hospitals and how they really work she would be nowhere near

01:55:41.960 one and yet she's giving birth you know in a hospital now some of the people who i mix with

01:55:46.060 would say oh that's a fake photo the elites really have natural births they don't get involved in all

01:55:50.680 the nonsense that us plebs are given that's just a photo to keep us plebs thinking that the trumps

01:55:55.920 and the other elites are part of the same medical system that we are but it's really all fake and

01:56:00.320 obviously i can't prove them right or wrong but to me it's it makes perfect sense that even your

01:56:05.020 trumps your bushes your clintons even your elon musks any of these people as powerful as they are

01:56:11.520 and as great as their lives seem on the outside they are still beholden to the myths of our times

01:56:17.380 including where we're from how long we've been here so to answer your question why are they lying or why

01:56:21.860 are they deceiving us i'm not sure they're here they might be long gone and everybody believes the lie

01:56:28.660 except for some strange dude who's some accused of being a little bit autismo who said you know what

01:56:34.360 i got some time on my hands let's do some reading let's do some note taking and came to the shocking

01:56:38.140 conclusion and it took me a long time by the way i didn't come up with this overnight this took me a

01:56:42.300 couple of years a couple of years from the first time i got this idea in my head to the time that i

01:56:46.740 published the first article about this on john the bond.com a couple of years of going down many

01:56:50.320 different alleyways many different stories of history and i kept bumping into this wall that i would

01:56:56.360 later realize is this wireframe mesh but i just couldn't i couldn't believe like the initial

01:57:03.280 conclusion hold on this is fake i couldn't believe that until i'd done this with multiple different

01:57:07.760 stories characters events until it's kind of like if you walk too close to a mural right someone's

01:57:13.640 painted this big mural on the wall and suppose we blindfold you and put you up against the the

01:57:18.260 mural and say okay take off the blindfold what do you see you might only see green or a white line

01:57:23.360 with some green in it not till you step backwards do you see oh this is a mural of a giant caterpillar

01:57:28.600 or of a kids flying a kite or something if you're too close to it you don't actually see what it is

01:57:33.540 that's how the history hoax was for me at the beginning i'm like it's too obvious this is fake

01:57:37.620 and then i would put it away and focus on a different topic i'd come back a few months later

01:57:40.980 try a different thing and eventually my notes piled up my research piled up the conclusion became obvious

01:57:45.900 history is completely fake and you guys might be talking to one of the few people who know this 0.97

01:57:50.240 maybe this isn't a lie that the elites are perpetrating maybe they believe this crap as

01:57:56.400 well and there's only a small few of us who will ever undo the lie and by a small few us i mean

01:58:01.640 literally me some of the people i mix with maybe you guys and some of your viewers might go and

01:58:07.400 double check this and come to the same conclusion but it might not be that we're uncovering a lie

01:58:12.720 that the elites know we might be uncovering something that even they don't know yeah how

01:58:18.980 trippy is that in your research john um have you come across it's this idea is like as far back as

01:58:25.300 we can go is maybe 1600 i was watching um just a segment of a video from a youtube channel called

01:58:32.040 my lunch break and he starts to lay out this technology boom that happens and i i forget what

01:58:41.100 the time frame is mostly because i'm uneducated but it was like in the early 19 might have been that

01:58:45.980 that time frame of like the 1940s again but this idea that like no no it wasn't that it was way

01:58:51.700 earlier than that either way there's a segment of time where for thousands of years there's no real

01:58:56.780 technological development and then all of a sudden it's like electricity the telephone the television

01:59:02.380 like so many the first automobile everything seemingly happens in a few decades i'm talking like

01:59:09.100 three decades tops and and then he starts to expand beyond that and it's like it becomes a snowball effect

01:59:16.260 and his uh insinuation was that the reason these technologies came out so pretty well realized and so

01:59:25.960 rapidly in succession is because they were not a discovery or they weren't an invention it was like a

01:59:32.220 rediscovering or a re-releasing of things that have been previously suppressed and there is a lot of

01:59:38.420 speculation about ancient civilizations and what sort of technological advancements they might have

01:59:43.580 had we do that to death with the ancient egyptians maybe they did a light bulb maybe they they came up 0.98

01:59:49.220 with the first battery in fact we have like the baghdad battery and we go look at that that's they

01:59:53.060 they again they were making batteries baby um and then it's like how did they build the megalithic

01:59:57.760 structures there's a lot of different schools of thought but if you go down the technological

02:00:00.460 aspect people are like they had resonance and frequency harmonics technologies you can move a large

02:00:05.720 object if you can get it to vibrate it becomes actually quite light and um so i i wonder john

02:00:12.900 through your research was there any ever notion a notion that you came across where they had a thing

02:00:18.280 maybe these several hundred years ago and then that thing went away that thing being some form of

02:00:23.880 technology and then it re-emerges and is introduced to us again to to convince us of something uh that's

02:00:30.260 a fascinating question man and the short answer is no i haven't found any evidence of that but i am

02:00:35.600 open-minded to it and the influence that these computers have had on our lives and it when you

02:00:41.060 trace back where does this all come from it comes from what a semiconductor and what is a semiconductor

02:00:46.060 they just discovered that if they use some what is it sand basically they use some sand in a certain

02:00:53.660 way they can create these logic gates basically if you have two legs that have positive it'll let

02:01:00.000 out a positive thing and then you connect them together and you can start to make what we call

02:01:03.740 digital devices and this is this all goes back like less than 100 years all of this technology as

02:01:08.860 we know it now and we've got to the point where people are spending on average according to the

02:01:13.020 surveys five hours a day on their smartphones alone people are meeting their partners and even the

02:01:19.700 parents of their children through these devices they're swiping away people are ordering their

02:01:24.560 food on these apps a lot of people are working in offices where they're behind screens all the time

02:01:28.140 this it's phenomenal the influence that this has had on the human experience and so much of it goes

02:01:33.460 back to a few dudes working out how to make a semiconductor using these diets i'm not even i'm not

02:01:39.400 even a tech guy like i'm just using this these ideas in the basic sense people just working out how

02:01:43.560 to build a physical logic gate and going from there and then you look at ai the way it is today and

02:01:49.480 the amount of power that this stuff has truly phenomenal in my opinion for example i use this

02:01:54.580 service cost 20 bucks a month 20 per month and for this you can make i think like 20 or 30 minutes

02:01:59.580 worth of ai videos i got it to make a video on the wind turbine hoax okay i was just testing this

02:02:06.260 technology out this is about a year ago so i said please make a video i always use the word please

02:02:10.460 when i'm using ai i've got my own reasons for that exactly so i said please make a video on the

02:02:16.520 wind turbine hoax i've never made a video i've never done any research on the wind turbine hoax

02:02:21.000 i don't really know much about it so i thought just make a video on that it comes back to me a

02:02:25.440 couple minutes of a couple minutes later with a video that included so it wrote the script it wrote

02:02:30.400 the script by itself it did the ai video very convincing ai video voice it found the stock

02:02:35.560 footage so all this footage of these are giant wind turbines like you know the wind farms that capture

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02:03:41.480 it put together its own theory it then put the overlays of the text it used it found its own music

02:03:47.440 and it even and it took me a couple of listens back to notice this even put in sound effects so like

02:03:52.920 seven different elements it did all by itself and its conclusion in this video that wind turbines were a

02:03:59.720 hoax and they're not generating power they're actually using power from the main grid and this

02:04:05.980 is all just an attempt basically to steal taxpayer dollars it did this in two it did this in two

02:04:10.520 minutes and this is a twenty dollar a month service so i uploaded that to my channel i uploaded it to

02:04:16.680 my channel and to be fair a couple of people did notice in the comments they're like hold on because

02:04:21.640 it wasn't my voice you see and i think that was the giveaway then about a month or two later a very

02:04:26.720 dear friend of mine and somebody who i collaborate with let's put it that way i started noticing that

02:04:32.500 his videos his you know conspiracy videos they sounded just a little bit off and i put two and two

02:04:41.000 together i'd received an email from this company this ai company saying oh we've got a new service

02:04:45.000 you can now upload your voice and we'll make your videos for you in your voice so i hit this guy up

02:04:50.800 i said bro these the last few videos on your channel have you been using this service with

02:04:56.340 your voice and he admitted to me yes now i was the only one who's going to notice that only because i

02:05:02.600 knew that technology was available to the same service that he and i were both using he could

02:05:06.440 easily upload those videos his own audience wouldn't know that he didn't make them you guys

02:05:10.960 could do it too if you wanted to that's how far this technology has come already so imagine how far

02:05:15.320 we're getting five or ten years so to go back to your question was any technology that was found

02:05:19.660 and then lost or what have you i haven't seen any ancient ancient old books or texts talking about

02:05:25.860 this but i don't know where this technology came from and i can't help but wonder if this is like

02:05:30.940 a revelation and on that note if you could go and get that um image that i put this the news

02:05:37.780 dot sky dot com the franz ferdinand prophetic number plate this is where we get into stuff that's

02:05:42.840 really trippy because a lot of people are going to come to me and say okay jlb you don't believe

02:05:45.940 in outer space but you don't believe in flat earth you don't believe in ancient history

02:05:49.260 you don't know how we got here but you don't think the sources go back more than a few hundred

02:05:53.560 years you don't believe that one of the oldest cities in europe is more than a couple like okay

02:05:57.840 tell us what's going on here i don't know i'm just like everybody else i don't know i'm trying to make

02:06:01.040 sense of it but i can show you this and i can ask you for what you make of it if you go to that sky

02:06:05.740 news article about the number plate of franz ferdinand's car so world war ii a lot of historians will tell you

02:06:13.260 it was kind of fermented by what happened in world war one a lot of our modern history goes

02:06:18.540 back to world war one then you had a few years in between world war one and two then you had world

02:06:23.460 war two and then after that you had the creation of israel and all the things that have followed

02:06:26.620 since then so how did world war one begin some dude called gavrilo princip shoots some other dude

02:06:34.300 called franz ferdinand and then serbia and austria hungary get angry and blah blah blah next thing you've

02:06:39.540 got a world war to complete schmuzzle it all started because some guy shot some other guy in a

02:06:43.860 car that was how world war one started according to the official story now according to the official

02:06:50.140 story world war one ended on armistice day which was 11 11 18. if you look at that image of the car

02:06:59.720 go and take a look at the number plate and again remember we spent 12 13 years at school and most of

02:07:05.100 us don't know this take a look at the number plate of that car for the people who listen to this

02:07:09.480 as an audio rather than watches a video let me tell you what the number plate is it's a iii 118

02:07:17.320 okay i'll repeat that a iii 118 is the number plate of the car that franz ferdinand was traveling in the

02:07:27.840 day that he was shot his shooting effectively leading to world war one that would subsequently

02:07:33.220 in one way or another lead to modern history as we know it world war ii the creation of israel and

02:07:39.940 everything that followed goes back to some dude shooting some other dude in the car the guy in

02:07:44.440 that car was franz ferdinand the number plate is a iii 118 four years later the same war would end

02:07:51.460 on 11 11 18 which is to say that the car where world war one began he was traveling in his car

02:08:00.320 that car's number plate had encoded within it the date of the end of the same war four years later

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02:09:41.700 conspiracy museum that's the official story so how could it be that the events that led to the start

02:09:48.680 of world war one and modern history as we know it that the number played off that car would have

02:09:52.740 encoded within it the end of the same war four years later 11 11 18 and how could it be that almost

02:09:58.560 nobody knows about this the normies don't know about it school didn't tell them the awake people

02:10:02.920 don't know about it because no one's telling them either no one's doing their own research they say

02:10:06.620 they are but they're not really no one knows about this stuff and then this crazy dude this john the

02:10:10.920 bond guy comes on and says guys look at the number plate how is this possible 11 11 11 18 is in the

02:10:17.300 plate from the car that in 1914 supposedly left at the beginning of this world war how is this possible

02:10:23.520 how is this possible so it's i have there's there would be two lines of thought right where it's

02:10:29.640 like and and it's i don't i don't know i don't know the answer but i know uh people like you would

02:10:35.440 say well this is uh written history and this is like it's like they're leaving clues it's almost like

02:10:41.320 we like this idea of consent they have to give you um clues as to what they're doing and if you don't

02:10:46.800 catch on that's their consent this is like the vampire rule other people would say uh there's 0.97

02:10:51.800 numerology that's encoded in the into the fabric of this reality and because shit like this happens 0.72

02:10:56.780 all the time like when you show this to me i didn't even flinch because this is not the first

02:11:02.640 time we've seen things like this where there's like numerological signs as to start dates end dates

02:11:08.200 weird things that happen in the world it just seems all too often the question is is it there before

02:11:14.180 or is this a feature of wherever we're at like does this happen organically right i get into this

02:11:20.920 train of thought where when i receive things like that it's just like it clearly feels important

02:11:26.840 but its nature is such that it's it's very hard to define or to discern one way or another so i i put

02:11:33.080 it there for later consideration and it kind of goes into this bag that i label like the theater of it all

02:11:40.380 and and that is to say that oftentimes it feels like this is a mostly on rails experience and it's it's

02:11:48.740 like an experience that's similar to theater you know you're you're watching like bernie made off

02:11:54.360 make off with your money right george floyd's teacher is a um wainel sexton like okay sexton

02:12:01.520 right there's a there's like there's a lot of humor in it too like some of these things they're they're

02:12:05.820 like funny um but there's all these strange idiosyncrasies that i haven't found a way to make

02:12:12.240 a tremendous amount of sense of them because there is like the revelation of the method and i go kind of

02:12:15.820 maybe that resonates with me a little bit but not so much um it's almost like it's theater for those

02:12:22.340 with eyes to see and i'm not totally sold on that idea either but when i look at like you know donald 0.86

02:12:27.220 trump is a great example there's a lot of really strange shit surrounding him you know from the 0.59

02:12:31.540 ingersoll lockwood books to his uncle you know cleaning up uh tesla's inventions ingersoll lockwood 0.98

02:12:37.640 books are another great like so this is uh written in 1890 maybe supposedly but there's like not much

02:12:44.600 history behind it and then it pops up in 2015 2016 and we're like oh look here it is again you know

02:12:50.840 it's yeah it's one of those things it feels like it feels like theater um so so what i mean what do

02:12:56.820 you make of these things john well you guys mentioned the names the strange names of these events one of

02:13:02.120 my favorites is dr wayne carver who was the autopsy guy at that school shooting whose name i won't

02:13:09.480 repeat the school shooting because that's how my first youtube channel got kiboshed was for talking

02:13:13.720 about the school don't worry listen say it this will go on we're going to put so what we do for

02:13:18.400 youtube is put up clips safe clips for like five minutes or less but it'll go on rumble it'll live

02:13:23.620 everywhere else we one of our most popular episodes is uh foundering we just debunked or debunked the

02:13:29.000 sandy hook so feel free to speak man there you go you said it you said the name no i refuse to use

02:13:33.980 the name in real life or on the internet i don't use this name anymore it is verboten but you know the event

02:13:38.680 i'm talking about and the guy who did the autopsies dr wayne carver right so these guys have a sense

02:13:44.440 of humor but in terms of this number plate of this car i don't know how or why this stuff happens

02:13:50.840 but it does happen a lot this is just one example i can point to if i had to come up with an

02:13:56.120 interpretation and it's just an interpretation i might think that this is like an easter egg

02:14:02.040 where whoever or whatever created this place has left little easter eggs so that some of us

02:14:10.740 who are curious might realize this place isn't what we've been told in our case we've been told

02:14:16.760 we evolved from some simpler species we're on a giant spin ball going around the sun

02:14:21.000 this place is civilization has been here for thousands of years this uh earth as we know has

02:14:26.000 been here for millions or billions of years blah blah blah these are all the stories we're told

02:14:28.960 little things like this could be easter eggs i think to encourage some of us to try and think

02:14:35.360 outside the box to think a little bit more deeply to reconsider what this place is but that's just an

02:14:39.880 interpretation of it and it's very biased and subjective we all project what we want onto

02:14:44.480 different things so i might be projecting onto this the easter egg element but i don't know how this

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02:15:49.880 what do you think about this idea because i think that's definitely a plausible um

02:15:54.680 it's a plausible idea uh but we've been flirting with this idea of how this realm works intrinsically

02:16:02.360 so uh all right so let's just say again whether you believe the bible or not there was a major blood

02:16:09.720 sacrifice from the son of god in order to um liberate the world this is how the story goes

02:16:17.960 and we know that people do blood sacrifice all over the world and they continue to do it whether

02:16:24.600 it be ancient history which we might not believe in or current day they're doing these things and

02:16:30.200 they're uh creating these altars and so how do i say this i don't know there's something about the

02:16:36.280 blood transmutation of the blood something about like even things like adrenochrome the suffering uh the

02:16:41.160 butthole of small children these are significant things that people use to transmute reality because

02:16:49.800 i i think that the reality we live in if we want to think about it as a matrix like like ones and zeros

02:16:56.760 you can you can make things happen if you input the correct uh sacrifice how to rewrite the code right

02:17:04.440 right yeah it just feels like that it feels like rewriting it i mean we're using a sloppy metaphor

02:17:08.840 because we only know how to talk about computers and not this uh reality that we're in which is

02:17:13.800 it does look like a computer it looks like a simulation but it's much more complicated than that

02:17:17.960 um and some people have discovered the underworkings of this so when you see these numbers on on this car

02:17:24.840 here you'll say like wow this looks like it was completely set up and i was like yeah it does but

02:17:31.080 what if that's done on purpose what if that's like a some kind of an alchemical uh sign or alchemical

02:17:39.960 process put into into this ether whatever the hell's going on for this war to start and end on this

02:17:46.120 date you know what i mean like what if that's a necessary part of this like so when you look at

02:17:51.480 i'll admit john when i when i talk to you i i recognize a lot of um you do a great job of

02:17:59.160 delivering information without making any claims which is a good thing right you're like look i'm

02:18:05.880 showing you these compelling things i'm not sure what to make of it but this is alarming this is

02:18:10.520 strange and and i think that's a great um way to to give people information because so many people

02:18:15.960 want to go then to the uh well what are you saying it's like i don't have to be saying anything i'm

02:18:20.840 trying to show you that i'm just saying yeah i'm saying this this is wild so um i i i tend to

02:18:28.040 take the same approach to things i will say that it seems likely that based off the information that

02:18:32.920 we we have and this could be a ruse but there seems to be some element that either it is happening or

02:18:38.840 they want you to believe it's happening elites for lack of a better term are engaging in ceremonial

02:18:44.920 sacrifice ritualistic killings and these things you know it's a trope on in hollywood

02:18:50.760 but the elements are always there and and what elements are those well there's a geometry

02:18:54.600 element right um in the let's say an enclosed pentagram in a circle with salt on the ground

02:18:59.640 right but geometry seems to play a role in this and then there's also a frequency a resonance a

02:19:05.160 harmonics aspect and that could be the music that could also be the chanting right okay so we have

02:19:10.600 harmonics and resonance we have geometry there's also um an energetic exchange right we know

02:19:16.920 given uh i forget what the what the experiments are where you can speak positive or negative

02:19:22.200 affirmations to water and then when it freezes it it either takes on a an organized crystalline

02:19:27.400 form or it takes on a chaotic crystalline form right if you're giving negative affirmations to it it will

02:19:33.160 be chaotic when it freezes when you look under a microscope and if you speak positive ones it'll be

02:19:37.800 organized and there'll be beautiful symmetry and geometry in it when it freezes um and the same

02:19:42.200 thing is displayed in plants right if you play certain music to plants it either has negative

02:19:46.440 or positive so we know that this sound has an energetic aspect well um we also know what a

02:19:51.880 conductor is uh metal is a great conductor so is uh liquid liquid is a is a great conductor so

02:19:58.200 there's often the the letting of blood right so now you have this this moment where everything is

02:20:03.240 negatively charged because it's a negative experience for whoever you're sacrificing

02:20:08.040 um so that's the energy that's going out that would be the same energy that made chaotic crystalline

02:20:12.040 formations it would be the same energy that kills the plant when you subjected to it over time

02:20:16.120 um and then you have the geometry aspect which people who go on psychedelic trips will often

02:20:21.320 claim that there is a sacred geometry aspect to our reality like behind the the physical there's

02:20:27.400 geometry and that's a kind of a hard thing to pin down but anecdotally it's there right um so you

02:20:32.920 have this geometry you have this conductor in blood it's conducting energy what kind of energy well it's

02:20:39.160 a negative energy there's also the harmonics and frequencies of the chanting it seems that through

02:20:44.440 geometry through frequency through energy you can alter this realm in one way or another and so when

02:20:53.560 it comes to the the sacrifice of jesus christ it seems that god if you're to take that story as the truth

02:20:59.320 is manipulating his own creation in the way that you do right where it's like if you're building a house

02:21:06.600 um and and you want to change something about it well you've got to go down to the fundamental levels

02:21:10.760 the building blocks of it and alter them and so it almost seems like that's what happens here and

02:21:16.600 you know what i've said here is a lot but i think the question that i really want to ask you john is

02:21:21.000 where in this entire thing do you place if at all spirituality that's a good question man and i was

02:21:28.360 having an interview with somebody where i was meant to be the guy asking questions and the guest was

02:21:32.440 meant to be the guest and he started asking me some good questions and he asked me at one point

02:21:37.160 am i spiritual and i was like you know what that's a very good question am i spiritual

02:21:43.640 i don't know that's what i said to him like that's a good question man i don't know am i spiritual

02:21:47.240 because i had i've got these theories about where we are who we are why we're here what the point of this

02:21:52.520 is i've got these theories these ideas just like we all do we've all got our own conception of

02:21:56.040 what the purpose of all this is and i think about it a lot but that doesn't make me spiritual and i

02:22:02.840 don't meditate at least not in a in a formal sense or in a um a scheduled sense like i don't sit there

02:22:10.200 cross-legged trying to empty my mind i did try it many years ago and i wasn't very good at it and like

02:22:15.400 many things i've tried over the years i quit unfortunately i've done this with a lot of things

02:22:19.320 i just oh yeah seems cool you do it for a few days and then you think oh i just can't do it today

02:22:24.040 because i'm busy i'll do it tomorrow i'll do it next week and then before you know it's been 10

02:22:27.320 years i guess i quit that and then i don't pray i don't go to organized religion and pray i don't

02:22:32.120 pray at night to god or anything like this so i don't meditate i don't pray so in these easy to

02:22:38.360 point out examples of spirituality no i'm i don't think i qualify as um spiritual in that sense but not

02:22:45.560 because i'm against it not because i think there's anything wrong with it if anything i'm probably

02:22:48.520 missing some spirituality from my life i'm probably missing some proper scheduled or regimented

02:22:55.800 attempt to interact with the immaterial world in a way that's beneficial i'm probably missing that to

02:23:02.120 be honest with you so i hope that answers your question i don't i don't think i am spiritual

02:23:06.440 i don't think so it at all incorporated into your view because i've gotten to the point and i'm and i'm

02:23:13.720 not saying that anybody can get here outside of maybe the path that i took i could only speak

02:23:17.960 to my own experiences but i was uh as we talked about before at the top of the show a conspiracy

02:23:24.280 theorist for a long time and i wasn't raised religious at all i had no spiritual well i can't

02:23:29.560 say no spirituality for a brief moment when i was a child before my grandmother died she was um into

02:23:35.080 like remote viewing and clairvoyance and things like that not something that she shared with me

02:23:38.680 only something that i would find out in hindsight when i became a teenager she had been passed away for a

02:23:42.200 decade but i i never was religious i was never christian i didn't poo poo it i didn't dismiss it

02:23:50.600 and admittedly in my research a lot of things do end up pointing back to as i'm sure you would have

02:23:55.240 found in in your research many things do there's a there's a tether point to the bible or some sort

02:24:00.200 of biblical text that happens over and over again and so it was always incorporated to some degree but i

02:24:05.720 kept it light and then it wasn't until i had a profound experience uh where i felt as though i

02:24:12.280 no longer had the luxury of pondering whether or not there was a spiritual realm filled with spiritual

02:24:18.680 entities um i had been exposed to it one way or another uh in a pretty negative way and then i had

02:24:26.040 to do something about it so so that forever changed my and i don't think i don't think people can get

02:24:32.520 there without that experience maybe you can maybe if you were raised in the church or whatever but

02:24:38.120 i think um there are a lot of strange aspects of life we just highlighted a lot of them um and a lot

02:24:47.560 of them seem to be of a of a of a nature that is best described as supernatural because we just lack

02:24:54.920 lack any other way to define it um so i i came to all of this not until a 30 something year old man

02:25:04.040 and that is to say that my interpretation of these things probably isn't conventional i'm finding that

02:25:09.320 out now because i find myself in a christian space um where that was never the case before and i find that

02:25:16.120 there's actually much minutiae to fight over uh in this community and so um i i think i'm finding that i i

02:25:23.960 don't i don't analyze these texts in a conventional way at all and that my interpretation of them

02:25:30.760 is always flavored right we all have our biases uh by conspiracy and and the supernatural and i and i

02:25:37.640 do find that all those things together have acted as a sort of key where i'm much more able to i i think

02:25:45.000 understand these concepts where whereas before it was like what's the conjoining tissue what's the

02:25:48.920 conjoining tissue so so like everything you're talking about here today um i can't help but feel

02:25:55.960 that there would be immense spiritual interplay that you would find throughout this process many

02:26:02.680 idiosyncrasies that that would be hard to define otherwise uh as as anything but supernatural is that

02:26:09.880 been the case well supernatural i'm very open to because when i went through school i did when you

02:26:16.920 get to senior high school in australia listen victoria where i'm from originally when you get

02:26:20.600 to your final t's of high school you have to take english and you have to take at least one mathematics

02:26:26.440 but outside of that you can choose what other subjects you want to take i took physics i took

02:26:29.880 chemistry i was really into the science stuff and i really believed in this idea of thanks to science

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02:27:39.400 how we work and there is just the material and i didn't believe in any of the what you might call

02:27:45.640 supernatural stuff there was always a logical rational explanation yeah and it was only after

02:27:51.000 i got into this conspiracy stuff 10 or 12 years ago only after i had a bunch of experiences in my real

02:27:56.600 life that i couldn't explain there are no explanations so far as i can tell that just rely

02:28:02.280 on cause and effect this thing leads to that these atoms or these molecules reacting in this way

02:28:09.880 those explanations that used to make sense to me and still do to a large extent you drop a pen the

02:28:14.520 pen force physics and chemistry i still i still like these things i still think they explain a lot of

02:28:20.040 things but there are some experiences that i don't think the conventional explanations can explain

02:28:25.400 and so if you want to call that supernatural you can call it that and for just one example

02:28:31.080 when i did my deep dive into the truman show i decided to spend some time going frame by frame

02:28:36.920 through the truman show and coming up with my interpretation of what this film might be

02:28:40.440 revealing because i'd already heard about the uh the serious thing and so i wanted to look into well

02:28:45.640 this uh serious star the dog star freemasonry i'm going to do this analysis might take me a few

02:28:50.200 days whatever i'm going to put together and so i put together this analysis of the truman show

02:28:54.200 where i came to the conclusion that he was finding out things that he was meant to find

02:28:58.840 that it wasn't by accident and then in my own so-called real life literally that and at this

02:29:04.760 time i was 30 years old in the truman show even though jim carrey was about 35 or 36 when that film

02:29:09.880 was filmed uh thereabouts in the film he's on day 10 919 or something like that and if you work it out

02:29:17.320 he's about 30 years old so in the film the character truman is about 30 years old i was about 30 years

02:29:21.640 old when i did my analysis into the truman show my esoteric analysis i called it then literally

02:29:26.520 within days of publishing that i found out some things about my own so-called real life

02:29:33.800 that weren't so dissimilar to what truman discovered and i can't go into too much more detail about it than

02:29:39.880 that but all i'm trying to explain to you is things happened in my life immediately after this esoteric

02:29:48.280 analysis of a movie a hollywood movie from what 20 years ago from like 19 1999 something like that

02:29:56.040 and i did this analysis back in like 2018 17 18 so what i'm trying to say to you is people will say

02:30:04.840 that's just a coincidence and okay without knowing all the details of what i'm talking about fair enough

02:30:09.640 you can write it off as a coincidence but i've had too many of these experiences now

02:30:14.520 where i can no longer say it's just a coincidence it seems like something else is happening either

02:30:21.560 my actions today are somehow affecting what happens in the past as crazy as that sounds

02:30:27.640 or i'm discovering things now because now is the time to discover them

02:30:33.400 and there's some supernatural force at play and i know how crazy that sounds but i read these books

02:30:38.200 called the sync book so earlier on in this stream that we're doing now i knew that you guys wanted to

02:30:42.920 do the first 30 minutes and then cut to the patrons only and i knew that because i watched the show

02:30:48.520 with human vibration so i had my prep ready but for whatever reason we didn't break your first part

02:30:53.720 of the stream until a different it wasn't the 30th minute do you guys remember what minute we broke

02:30:57.400 into this probably 48 yeah 42 minutes 42 minutes for some reason at the 42 minute mark top said okay

02:31:06.760 we're 42 minutes in we need to go and i wrote that down because i'm like oh 42 interesting 42 is the number

02:31:12.040 of sync there are these guys called the sync books they've got a website called the syncbook.com

02:31:17.320 and if you've ever seen that uh youtube video called 911 predicts back back to the future predicts

02:31:24.440 911 which has millions of views and was very influential in their conspiracy culture when it

02:31:29.880 was released if you've ever seen that it was made by a guy called joe alexander who was a top 10 nba

02:31:35.080 draft pick believe it or not but somehow he got into this mystical stuff this esoteric stuff and he got

02:31:40.680 involved with these syncbook guys well to cut a very long story short the syncbook dudes released

02:31:45.800 two books there it is that's the website two books both of them called the sync book so 26 chapters in

02:31:52.520 both each chapter belongs to a different author and all of them are giving their own interpretation of

02:31:57.800 these so-called coincidences either in movies tv shows pop culture or in their own life or a mixture of

02:32:04.840 the two so at a very basic level you might think of a friend hey i haven't called him for a while

02:32:11.320 and then before you know it your phone rings and it's him calling well what are the chances i was

02:32:14.840 just thinking of that guy i haven't spoken in months just as i was thinking about him he calls right

02:32:18.520 that's a very simple example right through to the more extreme examples like some dude writes an

02:32:24.280 article about the truman show this dude finds that his whole life is a lie then he finds that a few

02:32:28.680 days later actually your whole life was a lie crazy story and everything in between they had 26 authors

02:32:34.680 26 chapters and then they released a second book another 26 authors another 26 chapters of guys talking

02:32:40.520 about these synchronicities and in their work the number 42 is the significant number and i was reading

02:32:49.560 one of their books for the first time this is back in 2017 john not to interrupt you real quick uh

02:32:54.520 catcher in the rye which we covered yesterday also 26 chapters really yeah dude john i don't know if

02:33:02.280 you know how strange catcher in the rye is uh but i mean that's that that book is a through line all the

02:33:08.600 way to from the jfk assassination to uh luigi mangelion or whatever the hell his name is who just killed

02:33:15.480 that other uh that other ceo of that um united healthcare company it's very strange that's that's

02:33:20.760 fascinating actually what are the chances and so anyway 42 really significant and i was living at

02:33:26.760 that time it only occurred to me when i was halfway through the first book at that time i was living

02:33:32.360 at number 242 of the street that i lived on so i'm reading this book all these different authors

02:33:37.720 one of the common threads all these guys talking about coincidences esoteric ideas mysticism the

02:33:43.160 supernatural this number 42 keeps coming up and i realized i live at 242 and then i realized that

02:33:51.000 the number 42 was significant to me for a reason to do with my date of birth and i'm like now what are

02:33:56.040 the odds that i'm reading this book 42 is important the 242 etc and then when i got home i was looking at

02:34:02.200 my website and on the banner of my website which i made in 2016 so this is before i ever heard of these

02:34:09.080 freaking sync books i made this banner where i put together images from like if you go and check

02:34:14.760 out john the bond.com right now you can see the banner i made that myself with this program called

02:34:20.120 gimp g-i-m-p generic i don't know interface manipulation no generic image manipulation program

02:34:26.760 i guess it's a poor man's photoshop because i am after all a poor man so i made this with the free

02:34:31.400 hand select tool every single one of those dudes on that banner so you've got characters from the land

02:34:36.680 before time you've got the dudes who supposedly went to the moon you've got george bush you've got

02:34:42.120 barack obama you've got the girl from the truman show where she's holding up the chef's pal you've

02:34:46.920 got alder suxley all these people front and center on that banner which i made i was inspired to make

02:34:53.160 this when i launched john the bond.com back in 2016 front and center is a dude who is the boat captain

02:34:58.440 okay he's the boat captain from waking life by richard linklater i don't know if you guys have seen

02:35:04.440 that film but it's a really awesome film i recommend it so anyway that boat that he's traveling

02:35:08.440 in has on has on it the numbers four two four two four for some reason now when i made that banner i

02:35:14.440 didn't know that and i didn't know why four two or two four was significant so what i'm trying to

02:35:18.120 say to you guys is only when i was reading this book did it start to occur to me how much this number

02:35:23.560 keeps coming up in pop culture in tvs in movies which have nothing to do with me seemingly

02:35:28.360 but also in my so-called real life to the point where i get invited by these guys these nephilim

02:35:35.000 death squad guys to come on to their show and they normally break for the patrons at the 30 minute

02:35:40.200 mark but for some bizarre reason and this wasn't scripted was there's no conspiracy here i didn't

02:35:45.080 tell you guys to do this you break away at which minute 42 the 42nd minute so i don't know

02:35:52.360 if this qualifies as supernatural for you guys but i'm telling you there is something going on here

02:35:57.880 i don't know what it is i don't know why it happens but there is something going on but it is only

02:36:02.600 noticed by those with eyes to see in my john now now would be a good time to tell you that uh we did

02:36:09.160 this on purpose like yeah exactly like are they doing these things on purpose or is this just serendipitous

02:36:16.440 and it's like not just serendipitous but is it supposed to happen this way is that your number

02:36:20.360 is that the thing that's going to follow you forever it's like maybe well it's not just my

02:36:23.640 number though it's not just my number i'm just one of the people who've noticed it right but it's a

02:36:27.720 number that's been happening since before i got here and probably will keep happening afterwards

02:36:32.760 and one of the reasons why the sync book dudes talk about it is because say in the hitchhiker's

02:36:37.000 guide to the galaxy what is the number they give the supercomputer the number and what is the number

02:36:41.800 that he comes up with thousands of years later oh uh is it 42 is then is like of course it's 42

02:36:48.920 of life or something like that man that's a great movie that's such a throwaway moment too because

02:36:54.760 you feel like as if it's not meaningful right because that's kind of the the joke is all this

02:37:00.200 time to figure out what the meaning of life is and it's 42. yeah and then in the bbc version because

02:37:05.480 obviously you've probably seen the hollywood version but there was a bbc version and in that version which

02:37:10.520 is one that i've seen they come and they get the answer and he keeps saying do you really want to

02:37:15.800 know and they're like yes tell us and he's like you're not going to like it they're like tell us

02:37:21.080 and then he said the answer is and they're like yes he's like is yes 42 and then they say 42 and then

02:37:30.040 the computer says something like yes this was very difficult to calculate yeah they've got an

02:37:35.480 understated sense of humor the bridge so 42 is a number that's in pop culture since before i got here

02:37:39.880 there are other movies or tv shows that pick up on the 42 that's one of the reasons why the sync book

02:37:44.040 people were in on it but what i'm trying to tell you is in my real life i read that book when i was

02:37:48.040 living at 242 42 was encoded within my birth date and it turns out it was encoded even within the guy

02:37:54.280 who's front and center of the banner that i made a couple of years before i'd ever read the sync books

02:37:59.400 and then i chat with you guys and we cut the 42nd minute mark now if someone comes to me and

02:38:03.400 says that's all just coincidence i say fine the same person will tell me that the number played on

02:38:08.520 france ferdinand's car is just a coincidence the same person will tell me that the millennium hilton

02:38:13.640 this hotel that's across from the world trade center with the phone number two one two six

02:38:17.000 nine three two zero zero one they'll tell me that that's just a coincidence if you write that phone

02:38:21.000 number that this is a phone number for the millennium hilton looks like the black monolith from

02:38:24.360 the other space odyssey if you write that phone number down two one two six nine three two zero zero one

02:38:30.600 well two two six the 26th of february 93 that was the date of the world trade center bombings it was also the

02:38:38.040 date that they released falling down with michael douglas the last four digits two zero zero one

02:38:43.560 where the year that the world trade center towers themselves came falling down and this all happened

02:38:47.800 in front of a millennium hilton hi i'm darren marler host of the weird darkness podcast i want to talk

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02:39:49.800 yes another 55 church street that looks like a black monolith from 2001 a space odyssey 0.72

02:39:55.640 the same person will tell me that's all just a coincidence so some people have eyes to see some

02:40:00.200 people do not what sometimes what i suspect is happening here is like when let's say the elites

02:40:05.480 right we're going to use that terminology here when they want to uh inundate us with some sort of

02:40:11.160 messaging well they usually do it you know you can find it it's like it's on a super bowl stage it's

02:40:15.720 at a big concert uh it's in a hollywood film it's in a music video and you can find the various symbolism

02:40:21.560 and you know that that was left there by you know somebody with a plan but then there are these other

02:40:27.400 things where in order to attribute them to human beings well these human beings have to be capable

02:40:32.040 of like 5d 6d 7d chess you know in order to go back in time and do all these different things but i

02:40:38.200 find that the more i've gone down this like path of christianity or or whatever it is that i'm on uh

02:40:46.520 i used to previously think that the creator of this world realm god would be unrelatable right i was much

02:40:53.240 more comfortable when i was younger thinking him thinking of him as an amorphous energetic cloud

02:40:57.960 somewhere out in the universe that all consciousness returns to because if the first law of thermodynamics

02:41:02.920 is you cannot create or destroy matter you can't create you can only change its form that was a horrible

02:41:07.640 paraphrasing of it but i thought maybe the same thing could be said for consciousness where does it

02:41:11.880 go can it be destroyed can it be duplicated does it return to a source right and and and that was

02:41:17.320 kind of like this way of me looking at other people and being like how do you think that you

02:41:21.240 possibly have the intellect to define god and then i started to realize that the nature of this realm

02:41:26.760 is fractal right we can find like the golden ratio the fibonacci sequence under a microscope but you

02:41:32.200 could also observe it on on a pine cone or something like that right it's like as above so below these

02:41:37.240 these these things they echo on the minutiae all the way up to the macro and so i thought in that way

02:41:43.880 then maybe god is sort of relatable if we were truly made in in god's image and it seems that

02:41:49.000 no matter how small you look and no matter how big you look you see the same thing so maybe the

02:41:54.120 same thing is said for like systems right we think of ourselves as as highly evolved and so we can

02:41:59.960 create these judicial systems but then when you start to read the bible you get this idea that there's

02:42:04.600 very much a courtroom case playing out right now um and there are witnesses and there are those who are

02:42:10.680 bearing testimony and and there are those who will be judged and i go well that's interesting because

02:42:15.320 that's right there and and those are within our is that another example of the fractal nature of

02:42:19.320 reality um and so if we look over and we say these elites are trying to manipulate the realm with

02:42:26.520 uh geometry energy you know uh resonance frequency and maybe that's the same way that god manipulates

02:42:33.880 this realm well it seems then that a lot of the things that we're doing are things that exist on a

02:42:38.600 spiritual level in some way or another according to the bible so then if these elites are constantly

02:42:45.400 trying to subliminal message us you know um initiate us in one way shape or form there are

02:42:50.600 those who think that we've all been subjected to enough rituals of the masonic variety that we are

02:42:54.760 all initiated to some degree well maybe god does it too and maybe these these moments that you can't

02:43:01.080 really attribute to human beings because i don't think we're capable of playing chess on that high of

02:43:06.040 a level across that large of a span of time maybe that's god doing the same thing maybe it's not

02:43:12.360 their idea to inundate our subconscious mind with little whispers and clues maybe that is a spiritual

02:43:18.600 truism about the realm that we inhabit they do their own version of it but even without them maybe and

02:43:25.000 look this is highly speculative this is just like what i'm really great at is just speculating baselessly

02:43:30.840 with no information right but maybe it's god nudging you every once in a while hi you see this

02:43:36.840 you see this because there's a there's one thing happening in the foreground but if you look in the

02:43:40.200 background there's something else and it kind of beckons to you and it wants you to look at it a

02:43:44.280 little bit more scrutinizingly and if you do that typically you will find more idiosyncrasies more

02:43:49.720 things that almost couldn't be possible in in like a random universe where we just emerged from goo and then

02:43:56.200 turned into you know fish and yada yada grew legs um and so it doesn't work on that model

02:44:01.640 right it's almost going back to the flat earth thing but it does work on this other model where

02:44:05.000 there's an element that we're not taking into consideration and that element is a spiritual

02:44:08.360 realm filled with entities that don't have a physical corporeal form but do interact with this

02:44:13.720 realm one way or another and then you look at the mythos of all these different cultures and they

02:44:18.200 kind of thought the same mythos are fake bro we can't trace it back before 1800s that's true too but

02:44:23.560 i just like you don't know that maybe you can you've got to try maybe i'm just selling you a

02:44:28.040 load of baloney and someone has to call me out and trace the sources maybe who's going to step up to

02:44:33.400 the plate there's some i mean there's there are like hieroglyphs but again how the hell am i supposed

02:44:38.520 to uh well i can't carbon date shade because i'm a retard so also carbon dating is completely inaccurate 0.80

02:44:44.120 like they don't it's it's one of the worst forms of dating that we that we know of so and if we take

02:44:48.840 ed mabry's line of thought where the the speed of light is slowing down then that would have an

02:44:54.360 effect a tremendous effect on carbon dating because if the speed of light is in a constant and it's

02:44:58.520 degrading over time then you know our measurements of carbon dating are all screwed up that was at least

02:45:03.320 ed's uh take on it and so i don't know i just to me it it what i just said resonates with me in a way

02:45:11.640 where the type of person that i am i'm like research done done job going back to what you

02:45:18.200 said earlier a moment ago if i'm understanding you're right it sounds like you're kind of talking

02:45:21.800 about these energies and how much they influence us and so people who are musicians for example if you

02:45:27.400 speak to a musician and ask them where'd you get the idea for that song or what have you i've noticed

02:45:32.040 this they'll say they don't really know where it's kind of like they're just channeling something

02:45:36.280 whether it's musicians or authors i'll say they kind of when they're in the zone they feel like

02:45:39.960 they're channeling something right and not in a nefarious way or you know i'm being possessed by

02:45:44.280 the devil just they sit down and suddenly they've written five chapters of their book it just all

02:45:48.920 flowed or they've written a song it's all flowed i interviewed one musician one time and i said to him

02:45:53.240 because i'm really big on this idea of where does this inspiration come from and i'm using the word

02:45:57.880 inspiration what i mean is you've got an idea in your head maybe you're a painter where's this coming

02:46:02.200 from or you've just written this really good song that that doesn't just resonate with you and

02:46:06.440 your memories of that girl or that event but other people listen to it and it means

02:46:09.880 something to them where'd that song come from yeah yeah or this movie i've never spoken to like

02:46:14.360 a big-time film director but where do you get the ideas for these any of these creative processes where

02:46:19.640 does it come from inspiration is a term that we can use to describe that okay great a lot of people

02:46:24.760 think these hollywood film directors oh they've put a 9-11 in their film but the film is from 10 years

02:46:29.160 before 9-11 they must be in on it they call it predictive programming that's what i used to believe

02:46:33.880 these days i'm thinking to myself hold on what inspired me to put a 4-2-4-2 car at the front and

02:46:40.200 center of my banner no one told me 42 was important it just i was i was the guy sitting there in front of

02:46:47.240 a computer putting together a banner that took hours by the way to put that together it just happened

02:46:51.000 then i'm chatting with you guys what inspired you or what caused you or whatever word you want to use

02:46:55.800 to finish at minute number 42 maybe we are vessels of something bigger and in that sense this place is

02:47:02.520 like a giant stage or a giant theater production and we want to believe especially because we are

02:47:08.120 so proud and egoistic we want to believe that we're in full control of everything that we do and that we

02:47:12.920 say and that it's all us doing it the idea that maybe to some degree whether it's point one of a percent

02:47:19.720 or it's a hundred percent or some amount in between the idea that something else is using us

02:47:25.240 and even using is the wrong term because that's a loaded term but somehow we are playing out a bigger

02:47:30.520 image a bigger show a bigger performance that we can't quite understand but we're part of it

02:47:35.880 for the 70 or 80 years that we're here if we're lucky the idea that we're not in full control scares

02:47:40.200 a lot of people and it probably used to scare me whereas now i'm like you know what if i'm doing

02:47:44.840 something good or if i'm doing something that resonates or if whatever i'm doing is something that's worth

02:47:49.080 doing and i'm not my own inspiration but something else is that i can't see or understand okay i'm

02:47:54.440 comfortable with that it doesn't scare me anymore but i do i can see why people are scared of that idea

02:47:59.560 there's a i mean there's there's like precedent again this is a this is like a more this is like

02:48:05.480 a biblical show sort of we reference in a lot but there is precedent and i have testimony myself of uh

02:48:11.320 people telling me that i would do a certain thing and i i said i say this so much but they said uh

02:48:17.240 when i i had a falling out with the church and one of the women in the church was a

02:48:22.040 sort of a not a prophet i don't know what you'd call her she was a worship like a prayer leader

02:48:27.560 and she was somebody that would do these sort of things and i let me tell you i wanted nothing to

02:48:32.920 do with the church at this time or these people because they had wronged me in a like a very specific

02:48:39.080 way and she told me when i was ready to leave that she's like you would be talking you'll be talking 1.00

02:48:44.680 to millions of people about uh god and that really was it and what i wanted to say was fuck you 0.99

02:48:54.520 i won't i'm not going to do that i'm going to go drive a truck an 18 wheeler and do general 0.99

02:48:59.800 construction and make money and that's what i did for the next 10 years and then covet happened

02:49:05.320 and a bunch of other stuff happened and here we are and i look back on it our downloads are well

02:49:11.400 over a million is that a million specific people i don't know it's getting there and it's almost like

02:49:19.640 david said it in the beginning of the show like like we're on tracks it feels like like this life is

02:49:24.280 just on a certain track and it's like can i avoid going in this direction it almost feels like no but

02:49:31.080 i can choose my path towards where i'm going to end up and i can make it harder or i can make it

02:49:35.800 easier and uh maybe these numbers that pop up maybe that's our path because my number is the number four 0.88

02:49:42.040 that comes up everywhere i see it constantly david's is 33 and we see that shit all the time if i'm with 0.89

02:49:47.480 david we'll see that all all the time everywhere we're at two hours and 33 minutes yeah there you go um 0.91

02:49:54.760 so yeah it's i don't know maybe maybe these numbers are just the way of things and maybe

02:50:01.160 we're intrinsically tied to them and we see them and we replicate them and that's just can i ask you

02:50:08.040 this do you feel like this is all god's plan because one thing i do envy people who have real faith like

02:50:13.800 complete faith in faith in whatever it is like whatever god they think is in charge one thing i envy

02:50:19.720 is the peace and tranquility that must come from the idea that this is all part of god's plan in

02:50:25.880 other words never worry never fear never have anxiety hi i'm darren marler host of the weird

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02:51:25.720 spreaker.com that's s-p-r-e-a-k-e-r.com it's all going to work out it's all part of god's plan people who

02:51:33.560 have complete faith which i do not people who do must have this inner sense of tranquility

02:51:39.880 to never why would you worry if you believe this is god's plan you would never worry for a single

02:51:44.440 second if you have complete faith so i guess my question for you is do you feel like you're at

02:51:48.040 that stage you have complete faith in the in the plan when i do i uh i my wife often she's like what 0.99

02:51:55.560 the fuck is wrong with you dude like you're like i i used to be a very like a worried person anal always 0.99

02:52:02.680 i mean i still am with my work i am like what we do with this show after this episode i man there's 0.99

02:52:09.000 probably 15 things that i have to do to get this episode up and running and i'm going to do that to

02:52:13.960 the the best of my abilities and in a timely fashion because i need it to work and i want it to work

02:52:19.400 but i am not worried about where i'll end up i know that there is some sort of a plan but i know i

02:52:25.400 got to do what i have to do so in a sense i'm like uh i am worried about the things that i need to

02:52:31.400 do i need to take care of my children there's a dog here i have responsibility sure but i'm not

02:52:35.640 stressing about it and and there's in the last couple of years there's been times in my life

02:52:41.000 where i'm like oh my god everything can fall through right now and all the stuff i've been working for

02:52:46.520 can be gone in an instant and i have lost i mean i worked for odyssey.com the streaming website

02:52:52.760 lost that job i was like what am i going to do and i said you know what i could uh sit here and

02:52:58.280 ponder and worry but i didn't and somebody calls me from gas digital and they're like hey do you

02:53:05.320 want to run our merch and i'm like yes and then i do that and then that sort of falls through and

02:53:10.440 i'm like well you know i should worry what am i going to do next and then all of a sudden this

02:53:14.520 show is a success and like this is like providing so yeah i am uh i worry about things but i'm constantly

02:53:20.520 proven wrong it's like well why why are you worrying why are you worrying because it seems that like

02:53:24.920 everything i'm working towards if i just continue to like david says the prayer all the time he's like

02:53:30.280 i don't know what i'm doing but if i'm doing something wrong and god's watching me slap me

02:53:36.040 away from that point me in the right direction where am i supposed to go and when you're going

02:53:41.000 in the direction that you're supposed to go it uh things just seem to work out and it again i don't

02:53:46.280 know if it's my faith or if it's that this is an actual principle of this is what i'm supposed to

02:53:51.400 do so yeah it's i i don't really worry anymore about these things or where i'm going because 0.91

02:53:57.480 i've been proven wrong enough worrying like an asshole and it's also counterintuitive

02:54:03.400 when when i was younger um when i was really little i had an overwhelming like it was almost 0.97

02:54:08.840 you could almost call it like a delusion like a in the way that children are prone to fantasy but

02:54:14.040 i had a tremendous and i wasn't raised in a religious household but a tremendous

02:54:18.920 faith in this idea of like god and you know me being on his side i don't know like me you know

02:54:27.320 god loved me in other words and um when i got older when as a teenager i became homeless and that was

02:54:33.640 like a big test you know and and what i can happily say is i do believe that i got through those years

02:54:38.600 never shaking my fist at god never asking why this was happening um i don't think that was the right

02:54:44.200 move i think it's okay to wrestle with god and and like that but i didn't do that at all um

02:54:50.840 even though there was a lot of suffering and a lot of isolation and sadness uh i still had this idea

02:54:56.200 that god was going to provide one way or another and that was an amorphous god right because i wasn't

02:55:01.240 christian in any real meaningful sense of the word and what i'll say is i have hit rock bottom so many

02:55:07.400 times in my life because i'm a big like risk taker i don't really play it safe i will pick

02:55:12.360 up my family and move to a new place if i think that there's something out there for me or or

02:55:17.160 whatever and so um what i have learned and and learned is an interesting word here because i don't

02:55:22.920 have it down on paper but i have been shown that no matter how many doors get shut on you another one

02:55:29.800 will open and it happens in such a strange way that you can't attribute it to an individual you

02:55:34.680 can only say that i guess you can get a little bit new agey and say like the universe provides

02:55:40.760 but i like to refine that a little bit more and i do think that there is a an individual creator uh at

02:55:48.520 the head of all this but i i am now to the point where i wholeheartedly believe that i finally got

02:55:55.960 on the right track i think i wasn't on the right track i think that was my fault i think i should have

02:56:00.280 been asking god for things i should have been more less lukewarm and more pointed um and i don't know

02:56:07.720 i just my i think having a sense of conviction in some ways towards one way or the other is what god

02:56:16.760 appreciates more than somebody who's just flowing through well this experience it's it's a sense of

02:56:22.760 not just conviction but a sense of submission which is really hard to do yes but it's working out nicely

02:56:29.400 for me so i don't know that's the best that i could tell you and i i'm not here to preach to

02:56:33.800 anybody but it's it yeah when i submitted to like that this is the way to go but at 31 or something

02:56:42.120 like that whatever the hell it was i finally pivoted and was like okay we're gonna give this its due

02:56:48.840 we're gonna give the idea of god the bible and jesus christ um an actual authentic looking at instead

02:56:56.200 of just this peripheral glance whenever it came up and as soon as i did that i thought there was

02:57:01.720 something really here and then as soon as i started making content about it everything opened up and in

02:57:07.640 a way that i it's like i have been pushing against a solid brick wall for 30 years and then god was like 0.98

02:57:14.600 you damn retard look to the left and i was like oh this one moves okay and then i started pushing on 0.98

02:57:21.000 that and then all of a sudden everything just opened up to me in the hugest way and it only continues and 0.99

02:57:25.400 so um also the same thing i'm i'm i'm in love in very many ways with conspiracies and that is to say

02:57:32.280 i'm in love with trying to understand the nature of this realm and reality why are we here and all

02:57:37.000 these different things and all of that opened up in a huge way too where i kind of expected to like

02:57:43.560 start diving into the bible and find a lot of things would fall away and i'm like that doesn't make

02:57:48.200 sense that doesn't make sense and then i would basically get to a point where it's like don't

02:57:52.360 look at this the way that conventional christians look at it look at it like this and i go oh my god

02:57:58.120 that fits really well so all these things just bolster that now i'm to the point where like yeah

02:58:02.200 i don't i don't have anxiety about it i don't have anxiety i don't have uh depression uh you know i'm

02:58:07.880 my tops at it my only prayer is like i believe there's a path for us please just make sure i'm on

02:58:14.360 that path if i deviate from it knock me back onto the path the one that's in alignment with your

02:58:19.480 will because i do believe at the end of the day we all have our thing we're here for a reason we

02:58:24.840 have something we're meant to do and it is the most satisfying rewarding meaningful thing to be on that

02:58:31.960 path and you don't have to hear it from me you hear it from all kinds of people it's like once you

02:58:34.760 figure out what you're supposed to do man it's like yeah actually as gay as that sounds 100 once you 0.85

02:58:40.840 are in a place you get an overwhelming feeling that i'm locked into the correct track this is

02:58:44.840 what i'm meant to be doing i have a sense of purpose i'm driven and that eliminates anxiety

02:58:50.120 for sure well you both seem relaxed you both seem at peace and evidently your platform is going really

02:58:56.760 well so i say good on the both of you it's fantastic to see and i do like i said i envy people who have

02:59:03.320 a faith that something is looking out for them and has their ultimate best interest at heart

02:59:11.080 and everything's going to be okay i do envy those of faith and i've gone through periods of having

02:59:16.200 that kind of faith i've also had periods where i'm like i'm kind of convinced uh i'm kind of

02:59:21.400 convinced the opposite you know i'm trying to say so i don't have that peace and tranquility that you

02:59:26.200 guys have but the people who do i'm sure many of your audience does i think it's a wonderful thing

02:59:30.760 i'm not anti the stuff i was saying about the bible earlier was not anti-christianity even anti-bible in

02:59:35.880 in fact i gave it that bible passage matthew 7 6 which by the way what does seven times six equal

02:59:42.440 i'm gonna imagine 42 but i'm bad at math matthew 7 6 cast not you pearls before swine

02:59:49.720 there's some good stuff in the bible and just the idea of faith i think probably someone's

02:59:54.920 going to lead a much better life if they have faith because life will test you things will happen

02:59:59.560 and those who can just maintain the faith and it's called faith for a reason it's faith it's not

03:00:05.000 necessarily logical it's not necessarily based on immediate evidence but broadly if a man of faith

03:00:14.440 leads a happier life and what is a life more happy than one without worries right if a life of faith

03:00:19.960 can can help you with that i think it's a wonderful thing and maybe one day i'll come back to faith

03:00:23.800 fellows but i've just seen and discovered too many things that shook me to the depths of my miserable

03:00:30.200 soul i agree listen man i feel you the truth we got a guy uh well well let's wrap it here but uh one of

03:00:36.920 our favorite uh guests on this show he's been on man close to 30 times be back on friday people

03:00:42.520 with the genesis series uh his show is called faith by reason and uh i'm i've learned a lot from him and

03:00:49.320 the reason why my faith was never strong when i was going to church or listening to just other

03:00:55.560 christian people is because they're like just believe it shut the fuck up believe it and i'm 0.95

03:00:59.000 like i don't can't and you got to show me and you know conspiracy theorists are very much that way 0.82

03:01:04.440 but uh when there is some reason applied to this uh for for me i've seen enough and it makes sense

03:01:11.800 but yeah everyone has their own journey and listen man there has to be people like you really like

03:01:16.200 you know you're telling me that that you found the codex cyanatica in in 1844 and there's no trace

03:01:22.280 before it but this thing is over 4 000 years old you got to show me and yeah i'd like to see it too

03:01:30.440 they have to show us we have to figure it out but uh yeah i don't i mean i i'm glad you're around

03:01:37.400 we all got here because we're pursuing the truth and and i think even the bible you know in the bible

03:01:42.520 it says that jesus christ is the way the truth and the life and i don't think that's like

03:01:46.520 some you know profound euphemism there seems to be some direct pipeline it is truth and then

03:01:54.120 eventually god and everybody's journey is a little bit different um but i think as long as you're doing

03:02:00.040 that and and look you're saying that faith is this hi i'm darren marler host of the weird darkness

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03:02:58.680 spreaker.com that's s-p-r-e-a-k-e-r.com you know it's a component that um it's necessary in some ways

03:03:08.840 and i think the way in which it's it's necessary is let's just say like we'll use the analogy of a

03:03:13.480 firmament there's a firmament then you drive you you get in a boat you go to the edge and you get to

03:03:18.280 this place where you're touching this wall and you can't go any further and it's like okay you've just

03:03:23.000 gotten a lot of information but beyond that wall there's still questions but whatever this realm is

03:03:28.440 is designed in such a way that you as a human being cannot gain access to whatever information is beyond

03:03:33.640 that wall so i think that faith comes into play when we i don't know it's almost like you get to a place

03:03:40.760 where like i've got enough answers to know that what i'm looking at is real but i know i don't understand

03:03:46.440 the nature of what i'm looking at and and that's kind of where the the faith comes in i think because

03:03:50.680 it's uh you're not dealing with a full deck yeah and i don't think it's possible to do with a full

03:03:55.720 deck i i think we pursue these things we pursue gnosis and we can get pretty damn far i i i do

03:04:01.400 believe that but i think we can only get so far in this realm in this form in this state and in this

03:04:06.600 time and then outside of that everything requires faith well i have to say i'm pleasantly surprised by

03:04:11.960 both of you because i only heard of you through human vibrations appearance here and i get this message

03:04:17.640 from the nephilim death squad and i'm thinking to myself what am i getting myself in for here

03:04:24.040 it turns out you don't have death squad vibes can i ask you before i know we have to start wrapping

03:04:30.360 this up where'd the name nephilim death squad come from like what uh i i allow david to do all of our

03:04:36.760 branding so for bohemian grove we had uh the vip members had cloaks with little nds logos on the

03:04:43.640 side pretty much anything you see here david brainstorms it that was like that's a cool name

03:04:48.680 and then i'm the graphic designer i'm like let me design this and make this aesthetic look this way

03:04:53.640 and it just kind of it felt right so we just we ran with it yeah not not a lot of uh deep thinking

03:04:59.320 there i mean you know a lot of the the nephilim shit as we coin it um i think is just a way of 0.83

03:05:05.800 saying remember earlier when we talked about it john when you look at these things it's like this 0.98

03:05:08.840 this tentacled octopus it stretches into everything um the nephilim feel like that so if you take the

03:05:14.520 enoch idea then some of these corporeal entities or non-corporeal entities that seem to fuck with us

03:05:20.840 constantly are actually deceased what were once physical beings but i think that much of if not

03:05:26.920 all of the shit that plagues us has much to do with um the falling away of these elohim these spiritual 1.00

03:05:33.320 beings that were created uh don't say that rat laban uh uh these spiritual beings that were 0.99

03:05:38.600 created uh by god and then a third of them rebel against god and i i honestly believe that they are

03:05:47.640 these various pantheons that we get you know you can you can track like zeus to hadad to ancient

03:05:53.000 sumer whatever the hell ancient sumer even means after this episode i don't know uh believe it or not

03:05:57.800 what i've got a tab on my wiki on my um firefox here about sumer and i was going to go off a massive

03:06:03.160 tangent on sumer and the stories obviously we don't have time but before we do wrap it up for your

03:06:08.680 viewers who might be interested for your audience who might be interested because most people listen

03:06:11.960 to podcasts they watch streams this is a form of entertainment or edutainment and they're not too

03:06:17.400 worried about following the breadcrumbs but for anybody who might be this is a good way for me to just

03:06:22.840 to wrap up what i'm trying to present here on the screen is my little schematic for the library of

03:06:29.560 alexandria now most people have heard of the library of alexandria the basic story is thousands

03:06:35.160 of years ago there was this great library and it was basically the repository of human knowledge

03:06:41.800 up to that point in time people from around the world had written things onto papyrus and it had been

03:06:48.600 made its way to the library so the great learned men and the great scholars would come to this

03:06:53.800 library they would consume the information that would contribute this was the one place in the

03:06:57.880 world that had all the info and then sadly you wouldn't believe it fell as it burnt down burnt to

03:07:04.360 the ground all gone all was lost great shame hundreds maybe thousands of years of human progress was

03:07:09.320 lost that's the official story of the library of alexandria as told by carl sagan and as told by

03:07:17.000 wikipedia to this day so i said to you guys earlier if you pick any story of history any character any

03:07:22.520 event i think you'll you'll just find the wireframe measures i call it you just might be able to go

03:07:26.360 back further than a couple hundred years so on the screen is my schematic for when i looked into the

03:07:30.600 library of alexandria basically on the right hand side you've got the normie he's got his coffee he's in

03:07:35.080 front of his computer and what's he reading or hearing probably wikipedia or carl sagan so i looked

03:07:40.600 into those sources what are wikipedia sources what are carl sagan sources both of them their main source

03:07:46.120 was a guy called edward gibbon who wrote a book in the late 1700s that was supposedly a translation

03:07:53.320 from haverback so i went and got a copy of haverback that was from the early 1700s

03:07:59.800 haverback supposedly translated from erosius so this story of a great library that burnt down

03:08:06.200 i'm trying to find out where's that story come from you hear it from carl sagan here from wikipedia

03:08:10.600 where'd they get it edward gibbon where'd he get it haverback so i went and read haverback

03:08:16.120 haverback was translating erosius supposedly from 400 a couple of problems if you read erosius's work

03:08:24.920 it doesn't mention a large library that's your first problem the second problem is what is he

03:08:30.120 translating from doesn't say we don't know so in other words it doesn't okay it takes time i will

03:08:37.000 confess it takes a lot of time that people say they don't have but it doesn't take a great amount of

03:08:42.360 creativity or genius you don't have to be an academic or a scholar you just have to be able to

03:08:47.080 read and take notes and think which i think most people are capable of that and you don't have to go

03:08:53.000 back too far through the sources to realize hold on this is bull crap sagan cites gibbon wikipedia 0.65

03:08:58.200 cites gibbon gibbon cites haverback haverback cites erosius you read erosius there's no mention of a

03:09:03.400 great library none do you see the problem no i don't expect it john can i just interject i mean

03:09:10.440 what it does is it says um hey look this is how long human beings have been around and we're like

03:09:15.400 okay cool where's all the writings and all the history and it's like all of it was destroyed in

03:09:18.600 this big fire in the library and then we go okay well that's what exactly and that's why i wanted to

03:09:24.040 look into the library of alexandria this wasn't the first thing i looked at i looked at

03:09:26.840 uh the first guy of the first historian according to history modern history is a guy called herodotus

03:09:33.720 who was he's called the grandfather of history he was the first dude to write stories down

03:09:39.480 in on parchment or on paper that's how history became a thing thanks so i started off with people

03:09:44.600 like herodotus and then somewhere along the line someone said to me oh what if the sources were lost

03:09:49.480 because of the library of alexandria and i was like okay great question i'm gonna look into that and

03:09:53.880 that's how i came up with this so this is what i spoke about on the high side chats and even though

03:09:58.680 most of my work on johnlabond.com most of the written work is only for the people who support

03:10:03.080 it financially this particular page all of my research all of my documentation for the library

03:10:07.720 of alexandria that's publicly available so i'll send you a link to that page and if you want to put

03:10:12.360 that in your show notes again i know most people when they listen to this stuff they watch it they're not

03:10:16.840 interested in following the breadcrumbs but for those few who are this is a breadcrumb that's worth

03:10:21.240 following because either you're going to debunk me and i'm only 37 years old don't let me spend the

03:10:26.440 next 30 years saying things that are not true i mean well and this is the truth to me but maybe

03:10:31.400 i'm wrong come and debunk me or more likely you'll find out that what i'm saying is true and 99 of the

03:10:37.400 truth tellers out there who are still going on about ancient history they're selling you lies and

03:10:42.840 nonsense and i'm the one that's here to help you to stop believing them this is the work that i'm

03:10:47.160 doing and i'm very proud of it and i want to thank both of you for having me on the show what we're

03:10:50.680 going to have to do if you'll do me the honor is come on and be guests on conversations where i swear

03:10:55.880 my friends i will ask you questions and shut up because i've done a lot of the speaking today but

03:11:00.600 i was the guest i should be allowed to talk a lot but if you come and be guests on my show on

03:11:04.360 conversations i would love to hear more of your story and we didn't get time today but i want to

03:11:08.440 hear more about this brohemian growth which sounds pretty cool so we'll have to organize something

03:11:13.080 well let me tell you john we rarely talk to anybody for uh for three hours it's not necessarily

03:11:18.680 the guest's fault it's mostly because we're not that interesting and can't convert carry a

03:11:22.120 conversation for three hours but we did it here and so i gotta ask you john will you will you come

03:11:27.560 back one day if i'm invited i'll be here and i have to make a confession right at the end i didn't

03:11:33.720 even know this was happening today i thought this was tomorrow thank heavens one of you sent me the

03:11:38.120 email an hour before the show it said oh here's the link to stream yard yeah for whatever time it

03:11:43.320 was um nine or ten o'clock your time and i was like no today's tuesday though so then i went and

03:11:48.920 checked the because you guys had a scheduling form i went and checked it it said wednesday because i was

03:11:53.800 logged in through my vpn that had me in australia which for this time is tomorrow for them so i had you

03:11:59.480 guys booked down on my little schedule for tomorrow so whichever one of you it was dave or tops who sent

03:12:05.000 that email you made the show happen today if you hadn't done that who knows what i would have

03:12:09.080 been doing this afternoon so you guys are professionals thank you very much i have to say

03:12:13.480 this is a great conversation uh it's a a genuine pleasure uh getting to talk to you and uh i really

03:12:19.160 we're both very grateful for you carving out some time even if it is a little impromptu and you thought

03:12:23.640 it was going to happen tomorrow uh carving out some time to to spend with us and unpack some of these

03:12:28.040 ideas and and what's clear is uh just given this conversation in your body of work there's a lot more

03:12:33.000 to be explored and uh so i look forward to any future conversations we'd be honored to come on

03:12:37.320 your show i'd love that uh so so consider it done we'll we'll set it up well it is your show so i'll

03:12:43.160 give you the final thoughts i'll just say my last bit thank you to both of you thank you to your audience

03:12:47.800 to the thousand plus people on your patreon who support you this is independent content and i know

03:12:52.440 as well as anybody independent stuff can only happen because some people support it we're not cnn

03:12:57.080 we're not fox news we're not washington post we don't have millions or tens or hundreds of millions

03:13:01.880 of dollars backing us from god knows where who's behind these mainstream people i don't even know

03:13:06.120 but independent stuff only happens because people support it so a big thanks to all of

03:13:10.280 your supporters and i'm going to be one as well i'm going to join your patreon i'm going to go and

03:13:13.320 listen to your full interview with owen benjamin i've been looking for someone new to listen to

03:13:17.160 and i think i found them here at the nephilim death squad i still don't know about that name

03:13:21.640 but i can get past that you guys seem really cool really fun and thank you both for your time and

03:13:26.280 i hope you guys have a great day and to all your audience thanks again for giving me the time

03:13:29.480 and if you want to follow those breadcrumbs check out the show notes because the rabbit hole goes

03:13:33.320 deep my friends john the bond from plovdiv thank you guys very much i'm going to shut up now unless

03:13:36.600 you wrap up the show thank you john listen you you you're you're better at this than us i don't know

03:13:42.840 what else to say guys don't forget to obey submit comply we'll see you next time this was a banger 0.97

03:13:47.400 peace out the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room it is

03:13:54.440 constantly telling us what to believe is real if you can persuade them that what they see with their

03:14:01.080 eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger

03:14:09.160 picture of what's happening and they have

Nephilim Death Squad - March 01, 2025

129： Flat Earth, Hidden History & The Truman Show Effect w⧸ John le Bon

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