129： Flat Earth, Hidden History & The Truman Show Effect w⧸ John le Bon
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3 hours and 14 minutes
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201.04965
Summary
Jon Labon is a writer, podcaster, and podcaster from Bulgaria. He's also the creator of the TikTok page, and hosts a YouTube channel with a few thousand subscribers. He's a good friend of mine, and I really enjoyed having him on the show, so I thought it would be fun to bring him on to talk about it.
Transcript
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Welcome to TopLobster.com, the ultimate middle finger to people who hate you anyway.
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Do you want to turn their mild annoyance into a full-blown meltdown?
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I'm talking about offensive, off-the-page comments that scream,
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You can't censor me. You can't tell me what to say.
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I'd apologize, but I don't think you'd believe me.
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We push all the buttons, we cross all the lines, we dot all the I's,
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And we live in that sweet spot where your style and your words hit like a sledgehammer on the head of your favorite politician.
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So why play it safe when you can blow it up entirely?
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If you're too retarded to stop, and you're too real to worry about being liked by everybody,
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Go to TopLobster.com, grab a shirt, grab a hoodie, grab a sweater,
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Because if they hate you already, you might as well give them something spectacular to complain about.
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It's like we all know it's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
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Motherf***ers, they're controlling this now, and no one's talking about how they learn it's hard to be slaves.
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And everybody's just walking around, heading to class, and we're awake until we're dead in the grave.
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But it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
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And that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
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Before we get into today's guest, I would like to remind all of our live viewers that this is a 30-minute preview only.
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Sometime around the 30-minute mark, we'll be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad.
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enjoying an ad-free viewing experience, and gaining early access to the episode before the general public does.
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Otherwise, guys, give it a couple of days, and this episode will release in its entirety.
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But I do suggest you go over to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad so that you can enjoy this conversation.
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Jon, for the audience who may not be familiar with you, where can they find your work, and what is it that you focus on?
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Well, hello to both of you guys and to all your audience.
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Jon Labon coming to you from beautiful Plovdiv, Bulgaria.
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I've got a YouTube channel with a few thousand subscribers, and I've got – what else have I got?
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I see that you guys have a TikTok, which shows that you're more progressive than I am.
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In fact, I just put my wife, my newly unemployed wife, because we finally do well enough that she no longer has to work, and we've put her in charge of the TikTok as of this morning.
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So what you've seen there is a very poor attempt at keeping that TikTok page alive over these years or this year.
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It's actually funny because when we were starting it, I was like, we need to have all the social media.
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So I was just using it to – I was just posting clips, like, passively.
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I'm like, I don't even put a caption on something.
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And I look back, and I was like, hey, there's like a couple thousand people watching this stuff.
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I was like, maybe we should pay attention to it more.
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Twitter is the dumpster of the internet, but TikTok is really the slums.
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But, yeah, we've got to use it more for boomers.
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Well, I saw this clip on your TikTok when I was doing my research for this chat.
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And there's a clip of Owen Benjamin on your show doing his bit about how when people say, oh, if you don't want us to abort the kids,
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it's because abortion, it seems to be different ethnicities abort their kids at different rates.
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And without getting into the nitty-gritty of that.
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And so he's got a bit where he says, if people say to me, if we don't abort them, what should we do?
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And I thought that was rather amusing, that little clip that you uploaded.
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Yeah, and he even says he doesn't just want the black kids.
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He'll buy anybody's kids, black, white, whatever.
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I think he did say that he'd pay more for the white ones.
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Owen has called me specifically, and he's like, listen, I'm just trying to justify slavery at this point.
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And if we can get this going – because he's got to – no, I'm fucking around.
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The juxtaposition that you put people in when you give them this – like it's like bad choice, worse choice, but you've got to pick one.
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And if you don't pick, it's like a low IQ answer.
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It's why Owen Benjamin is where he's at right now.
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Just constantly making people – forcing them to make –
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Yeah, making them uncomfortable, making them make a decision, and making people think.
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He's been on the show a couple of times, been on my other show a couple of times.
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Well, I know you guys are meant to be the interviewers, and I'm meant to be the guest, but I spent way more time interviewing than as a guest.
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So, I hope you don't mind if I ask you some questions, including –
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When did you first get into all this conspiracy stuff?
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I'm going to answer as David, and he can answer as me.
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So, actually, this is as David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. the Raven.
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Actually, I've been a conspiracy theorist for 16 years, and it started when I was very young.
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My grandmother had a slew of abductions, and she wrote a journal about astral projection and remote viewing and things like that.
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My aunt was a schizophrenic who would talk about this stuff all the time, and I had a slew of experiences.
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Yes, there we go, 16, they know – I've had a slew of experience, including demonic encounters and stuff like that, which made me look at the current events through the biblical lens.
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And then one day, I saw this guy Top Lobster online, and he said, do you want to do a show?
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Now, go ahead and explain my story, David, if you've been listening for the last year.
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My aunt lacks discernment, and she got a hitchhiker, and she put some scissors in the lawn, and now I'm Top Lobster.
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I'm pretty sure that's the entire – that's exactly how – no, I mean, look, it's – a lot of this is – let's just say this show, we were put together through a Tony Merkel show, The Confessionals,
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and that's very much a supernatural through the biblical lens kind of a show, and we were both fans of it, started interacting in his members' chat.
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Top was gearing up to launch his own solo conspiracy show.
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I had just launched my own solo conspiracy show, and, you know, much to his credit, he – we got into a conversation on Twitter, and he goes,
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oh, you do a show? I'll listen to it, which is wild.
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Nobody's ever going to – you know, when you first start off doing a show, if you're lucky, you have, like, 15 people who are, like, your aunt, your uncle,
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your cousins and some friends from high school or something like that will listen to your show.
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So Top gave it a chance right out of the gate, and then whatever the hell he heard in it, he was like, you know what, I think we could do something here.
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And so we've only been doing this show, this rendition of it for a year, but, I mean, as far as being a conspiracy theorist, yeah, it's – I don't know, man.
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And at what point do you turn a corner and you say, I am a conspiracy theorist now?
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Because I think a lot of people will have some problem one way or another at some point in their life with the official narrative.
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But at what point do you then become a conspiracy theorist?
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This was back in 2013, and I had decided not to drink alcohol that year.
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And one day on some forum, I think it was, like, a football forum or something, someone had linked a video of some other guy going through some photos and some video footage of one of those major events.
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So, you know, the school shootings and the bombings.
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And this person was basically saying that this is fake, that these – whether it was the bombing or the shooting that led to the next one, whatever.
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But, like, it was basically this guy saying these people are actors.
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And, for example, he was showing some footage of someone's trousers, their pants.
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So this person was in a bombing, a marathon bombing, right?
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And their pants didn't look like they'd been ripped or torn.
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They looked like they'd been cut with scissors.
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Because if you think about it, an explosion ripping your pants, you'd expect it to be a rip rather than a cut, that these pants appeared to be cut.
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And so I can't remember if it was the bombing that led to the videos about the school shooting or vice versa.
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But it was those two events that got me into all of this.
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Because at first I thought, this guy must be taking the piss out of the whole thing.
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Like, in other words, the review he's doing of the news footage must be fake.
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He must be using fake – but, no, he was actually analyzing what was meant to be the real stuff.
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And this was 2013, and then that set me down the so-called rabbit hole.
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And I now no longer believe in outer space, dinosaurs, ancient history, to name just a few things.
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But it all goes back to one day just minding my own business, browsing the internet, if you can believe that.
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Yeah, for me, it actually started – I mean, so as a child or as a young kid, I was kind of – I grew up in the church.
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I was familiar with the supernatural and understood this to a certain extent.
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My family has always had some sort of weird supernatural experiences.
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It's not a conspiracy, but I became like a, my social media platform grew when I was sort of in the Libertarian Party
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and involved with politics and like actually deeply involved with politics in the Libertarian Party.
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I was doing a lot of work for them, artistic work and producing podcasts and shit like that.
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And when you're looking at politics from this angle,
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that like obviously the default standard would be the government's lying to us, right?
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But most people just stop there and they go, oh, it's, it's about money.
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But the more that you like scratch at the surface there, you realize that there's a lot more underneath.
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And then you start scratching at that surface and you'll find things like this, you know,
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weird, weird happenings during bombings or false flag events and things like that,
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where people will stop and go, oh, you know, this just happened.
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And then maybe it's government, I don't know, maybe it's government malfeasance, like externalities,
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And I'm like, well, maybe it's an MKUltra program, you know, and I started looking deeper.
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So that kind of, through politics, I have dived even deeper into conspiracy from that angle.
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And it's given me a good aspect, a good, a good way to view it.
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And I think that's where I bring some sort of unique looks at the table that come from the political realm,
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which I'm trying to shed more and more, but it's still a useful tool to understand what's going on.
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Just, I just don't believe, I don't buy into it anymore.
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Well, I don't know how old you guys are, but if you're, if you were into libertarianism,
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then maybe we're from a similar vintage or a similar crop.
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And back then, it was all about Ron Paul, audit, the Fed.
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This is when, I can see in the background today, actually, for David, you've got Endgame.
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So around that time, all of us who were in high school or early university or just in that young adulthood,
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this was a huge thing on the internet, the Ron Paul revolution.
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I really believed in people, humanity, the future, the internet.
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We can use the internet to get the word out there.
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We're going to be a force for change, all this stuff.
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And here I am now, all these years later, I'm like, well, didn't quite work out, did it, boys?
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In a way, in a way, like, well, right now, again, I don't really know what to make of these things
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because I don't trust, I deeply distrust Donald Trump, deeply distrust Elon Musk.
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But on Twitter right now, Elon Musk is talking to Ron Paul, saying that he's going to put him in charge of auditing the Fed,
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which really means ending the Fed, if you just take a look at what they're doing.
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So I'm like, I am at a crossroad of, like David loves to say, politics are theater at the highest level.
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I'm just questioning now, why are we auditing the IRS?
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Yeah, why are we, we're about to count the fucking gold in Fort Knox,
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which is something, as you know, when I was in the libertarian circles,
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these are things that these guys were screaming about for years, free, free Ross Ulbricht.
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It's like, I don't know where to put this as a conspiracy theorist right now.
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Yeah, it becomes very strange because, you know, this was very much a conversation we were having 2006, 2007, 2008.
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You know, I was at Occupy Wall Street, and there was a lot of that sort of libertarian energy there.
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We went to go audit the Federal Reserve down the street from Zuccotti Park.
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And then we turned around when we got to the front doors, because it's all just a lot of people indulging in self-importance.
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So, yeah, we're going to march to the Fed, and we're going to shut it down.
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And then when we get there, everybody realizes that's retarded, so we all just turn around and go back to Zuccotti Park.
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And here we are, you know, almost 20 years later, and all of a sudden it's being resurrected.
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And I look at the libertarian party pretty skeptically because of the symbolism associated with it.
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Like, you have this torch, which gives me very much like Lucifer, the morning star, the torchbearer,
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like the Promethean kind of bringing mankind fire, right?
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And then you have this idea of like, don't tread.
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Everything is about libertate, or I'm sorry, what's the word I'm looking for?
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And it's like the rebellion, because we look at things through like a biblical lens,
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and I think the fall of the angels is a theme that is continuing to plague us in one way or another, you know, all the way in 2025.
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Put a pin in that, David, because he – so, John, you have an issue with ancient history,
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and I have a feeling that you're not going to agree with some of the theories that we would base our worldview on.
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I'd love to hear what you think about where David's coming from.
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I have a little bit of a bee in my bonnet about so-called ancient history,
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and I will tell you my theories, and I'll tell you how I arrived at all of this,
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and hopefully your audience finds it entertaining at the very least, whether they agree with me or not.
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But before we get to that, I did want to ask you, because I took some notes when I was preparing for our chat today,
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that opening track that you've got by – is it Vinny Paz?
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I'm going to confess I'm not too familiar with this dude.
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What I started reading his Wikipedia page and looking into the history of him.
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The lyrics of that track, the lyrics that you guys play in your opening,
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it includes a line about how we're being ruled by very sick people.
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We are a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
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Do you believe that people who run all of this are sick or evil or demonic, this kind of thing?
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I would say – well, you could make an argument for actually sick, because I think the royal families engage in a lot of inbreeding,
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I think they're in bed with ancient spiritual entities.
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And the only variance in that being in bed with them is the degree to which they are aware.
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Like some people are moved by spiritual forces.
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They are doing things they think are their own will, not realizing that something has been planting seeds and nudging them.
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And then there are other people who are engaging in ceremony and ritual and communing purposely with these.
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The more you go down the ladder, the less they're aware, but they're still movers and shakers and players on the world stage.
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Sick maybe because of the inbreeding, but certainly sick spiritually.
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Well, the reason I ask is because I've been doing this.
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So, like I said to you, I got into the Ron Paul thing.
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It wasn't until 2013 that I got hit with this crisis actor stuff.
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So that's where the, if you want to call it conspiracy, that's where that began.
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But I've been following this internet truth stuff more or less my entire adult life, right?
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And one of the things I've noticed is that a lot of the people who were here,
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a lot of them seem to have this idea of we're run by evil forces, demonic forces.
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A lot of them seem to believe that this place is basically hell.
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Because if it's evil people who are in charge, just think about this logically.
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If the world that we're in and the people who make big decisions that we have no real say over,
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if they're evil, doesn't that mean we're kind of living in hell in a sense?
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So the reason that I would say that's not the case is because,
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we have these really beautiful moments in between it, right?
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Like I can hang out with my son at the park and hold my wife's hand
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and be filled with this overwhelming sense of love and satisfaction.
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I don't think you're going to get that in a hellscape.
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I think what happened instead is that we have this thing that is beautiful
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and over it has been laid a facade, a mask or systems that have been created nefariously
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and then implemented on this thing that actually has quite a bit of beauty in it.
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So I'm going to hit you with something that I wasn't even planning to talk about.
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Maybe six months ago, maybe eight months ago, it was the summer of last year.
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I was sitting here and I was reading one of the different forums I like to read every now and then.
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And someone made a post about basically where we're really living.
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And I'll see if I can find it and send you guys a link if you want to screen share it or whatever.
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The guy, this guy, I think it was a guy who wrote this, basically wrote,
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I can tell you where we're really living and everything will make sense.
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And if I can summarize what they said, it went like this.
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This place where we're living in, many of us remember an instant or instances
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where we thought we were going to die or we thought we should have died,
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but somehow we survived, whether it is a car accident or some very dangerous situation
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where we thought maybe some bad stuff was about to go down.
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Whoever wrote this post, he said he overdosed on drugs and he thought he should have died.
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But before he knew it, he was back home and he was fine.
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And what he noticed over the next period of months or years was that
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Friends were getting sick or their kids were getting sick or all this bad stuff was happening.
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And eventually he realized that he had died and hell isn't some place full of flames
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and fire and brimstone and some big red devil walking around.
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Hell is simply the life or the world that you wanted to or you thought you were living in.
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But now bad things are going to keep happening over and over again.
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Because if you just sent people to a hell where they knew that was in hell,
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they would start to, like as humans, we can cope, we can adapt, we can rationalize things.
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Whereas if you think you're not living in hell, but you are,
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that's when the pain will be felt even more fully.
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Just enough to keep you emotionally invested in this place,
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But really, all of the bad things you're seeing,
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the bad things that happen to people you care about,
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this is all a result of you dying in your original real world,
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and I was just sitting here in this exact same seat,
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but then the conclusion that the person went to
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of individuals who have experienced these things,
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I just am critical about the conclusions that they draw.
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I believe, let's say, like a David Icke, for example.
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where he was suddenly the recipient of a download.
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And my only problem with David Icke in that situation
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So when somebody says they had that experience,
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It's just then do we need to go to the conclusion
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and I'm not saying that this is what you're doing,
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to that timeline thing or the multiverse thing.
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so you've told us that you don't believe in outer space.
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it's kind of like throwing bait out into the sea.
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Usually someone's gonna nibble on one of those three.
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good question so first of all and i know i keep
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referring to different like you guys brought up
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because that's a useful feeling i've brought up
01:49:51.700
to help conceptualize things and so there was a
01:49:57.640
which uh maybe you guys yeah well i was i was still
01:50:01.780
in high school so it's about 20 years ago i would
01:50:11.200
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01:50:15.240
i liked it yeah i did i never checked and i went
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this is a movie from ages ago you get back and re-watch it now it's like holy crap man
01:51:52.000
because back then it was science fiction this idea of a guy having an ai girlfriend
01:51:55.500
that was just bizarro sci-fi at the time still an interesting story but it was it's
01:52:00.640
it's science fiction in the sense of it's a totally hypothetical landscape that's kind
01:52:04.200
of what makes sci-fi so fun it's it's a setting that just isn't real whereas today
01:52:07.900
that is real that is possible very much so so yeah he was in coos
01:52:11.440
anyway i don't remember if you if you remember that john the the the sex uh talk or dirty
01:52:17.940
talk whatever you would call it um they did that like over the phone uh her and him so
01:52:22.740
the the screen just goes black and you're sitting in the audience and you're just listening
01:52:25.540
to the moans of joaquin phoenix and scarlett johansson very uncomfortably uh alongside the
01:52:30.040
rest of the audience very weird uh very weird but very well made and then the scene
01:52:36.020
where she has a boyfriend like she's been cheating on the on the main character who she
01:52:41.860
been cheating on him with yeah that um what was that for alan watt yeah the philosopher
01:52:47.120
and uh so they've got like an ai version of alan watt very well made film her i recommend people
01:52:52.800
check it out like i said especially given what we now know about ai which by the way if you said
01:52:56.900
me five years ago ai is it real is it fake i would have said fake i would have said like what we have
01:53:01.300
today i didn't think was coming in five years time five years ago or in 10 years time it blows me
01:53:07.320
away how powerful ai is and i can't believe more people don't talk about it maybe they're not trying
01:53:11.140
it out they're not practicing it maybe people don't realize how much people are using ai like a lot of
01:53:16.420
youngsters now they're just using ai to give them book summaries of what's in the book i think we're
01:53:22.480
already at the stage where the idea of people reading books is over people buy books don't get me
01:53:26.120
wrong but i have so many books i don't read i'm like one day the grid's gonna go down and when
01:53:31.460
the power goes out and we only have candlelight then i'll make use of my my personal library of
01:53:36.380
all these books that i purchase and do not read yeah i'm one of those terrible people i'm not saying
01:53:41.640
you're terrible i don't read enough books either myself i try to use this excuse of yeah but i i'm a
01:53:49.660
traveler i'm a digital nomad so i can't afford to have books guys i've lived in this apartment for
01:53:54.440
three years if i used to be a nomad i'm not anymore what's my excuse i'm just not reading
01:53:58.660
enough books i think most of us aren't but anyway to get back to this the village so the village comes
01:54:02.420
out 20 years ago in the film i don't want to spoil it for the viewers but for the listeners but most
01:54:06.280
of them have seen it in the village it turns out that the conspiracy the plan it's about the elders
01:54:14.180
setting the lie up creating this breakaway civilization and the elders know they're going to die
01:54:20.780
and then their kids will fully believe that they live in this old what from a couple hundred years
01:54:28.200
ago civilization rudimentary no electricity the way that the rest of the world has it certainly no
01:54:34.580
internet they're going to live a simple life away from the evils of the modern world and so i think
01:54:40.000
in our reality and i asked you guys earlier do you think the people who run the show are evil
01:54:43.460
i think it's entirely possible that the people at the top of our social structure today they're not
01:54:49.360
lying they believe the stories too whoever set this place up are long gone and almost everybody now
01:54:58.040
including hillary clinton bill clinton george bush barack obama any of these people maybe they're
01:55:04.900
privy to some stuff that we are not privy to sure why not but in terms of how we really got here
01:55:08.940
they could fully believe the stories of ancient history the way that everybody else does and as
01:55:13.400
an example of that there was this photo of one of trump's daughters giving birth many years ago
01:55:18.980
like 2016 or thereabouts she gives birth she's in the hospital someone's taking a photo of her like
01:55:23.620
not um like she knew she was a photo being taken of it she's there she's got the baby in her in her
01:55:28.500
arms and she looks absolutely exhausted depleted the way you would expect from a from a hospital birth
01:55:33.720
the way it's all done the medical industry yeah now why is trump's daughter giving birth in a
01:55:37.700
hospital if they knew the truth about hospitals and how they really work she would be nowhere near
01:55:41.960
one and yet she's giving birth you know in a hospital now some of the people who i mix with
01:55:46.060
would say oh that's a fake photo the elites really have natural births they don't get involved in all
01:55:50.680
the nonsense that us plebs are given that's just a photo to keep us plebs thinking that the trumps
01:55:55.920
and the other elites are part of the same medical system that we are but it's really all fake and
01:56:00.320
obviously i can't prove them right or wrong but to me it's it makes perfect sense that even your
01:56:05.020
trumps your bushes your clintons even your elon musks any of these people as powerful as they are
01:56:11.520
and as great as their lives seem on the outside they are still beholden to the myths of our times
01:56:17.380
including where we're from how long we've been here so to answer your question why are they lying or why
01:56:21.860
are they deceiving us i'm not sure they're here they might be long gone and everybody believes the lie
01:56:28.660
except for some strange dude who's some accused of being a little bit autismo who said you know what
01:56:34.360
i got some time on my hands let's do some reading let's do some note taking and came to the shocking
01:56:38.140
conclusion and it took me a long time by the way i didn't come up with this overnight this took me a
01:56:42.300
couple of years a couple of years from the first time i got this idea in my head to the time that i
01:56:46.740
published the first article about this on john the bond.com a couple of years of going down many
01:56:50.320
different alleyways many different stories of history and i kept bumping into this wall that i would
01:56:56.360
later realize is this wireframe mesh but i just couldn't i couldn't believe like the initial
01:57:03.280
conclusion hold on this is fake i couldn't believe that until i'd done this with multiple different
01:57:07.760
stories characters events until it's kind of like if you walk too close to a mural right someone's
01:57:13.640
painted this big mural on the wall and suppose we blindfold you and put you up against the the
01:57:18.260
mural and say okay take off the blindfold what do you see you might only see green or a white line
01:57:23.360
with some green in it not till you step backwards do you see oh this is a mural of a giant caterpillar
01:57:28.600
or of a kids flying a kite or something if you're too close to it you don't actually see what it is
01:57:33.540
that's how the history hoax was for me at the beginning i'm like it's too obvious this is fake
01:57:37.620
and then i would put it away and focus on a different topic i'd come back a few months later
01:57:40.980
try a different thing and eventually my notes piled up my research piled up the conclusion became obvious
01:57:45.900
history is completely fake and you guys might be talking to one of the few people who know this
01:57:50.240
maybe this isn't a lie that the elites are perpetrating maybe they believe this crap as
01:57:56.400
well and there's only a small few of us who will ever undo the lie and by a small few us i mean
01:58:01.640
literally me some of the people i mix with maybe you guys and some of your viewers might go and
01:58:07.400
double check this and come to the same conclusion but it might not be that we're uncovering a lie
01:58:12.720
that the elites know we might be uncovering something that even they don't know yeah how
01:58:18.980
trippy is that in your research john um have you come across it's this idea is like as far back as
01:58:25.300
we can go is maybe 1600 i was watching um just a segment of a video from a youtube channel called
01:58:32.040
my lunch break and he starts to lay out this technology boom that happens and i i forget what
01:58:41.100
the time frame is mostly because i'm uneducated but it was like in the early 19 might have been that
01:58:45.980
that time frame of like the 1940s again but this idea that like no no it wasn't that it was way
01:58:51.700
earlier than that either way there's a segment of time where for thousands of years there's no real
01:58:56.780
technological development and then all of a sudden it's like electricity the telephone the television
01:59:02.380
like so many the first automobile everything seemingly happens in a few decades i'm talking like
01:59:09.100
three decades tops and and then he starts to expand beyond that and it's like it becomes a snowball effect
01:59:16.260
and his uh insinuation was that the reason these technologies came out so pretty well realized and so
01:59:25.960
rapidly in succession is because they were not a discovery or they weren't an invention it was like a
01:59:32.220
rediscovering or a re-releasing of things that have been previously suppressed and there is a lot of
01:59:38.420
speculation about ancient civilizations and what sort of technological advancements they might have
01:59:43.580
had we do that to death with the ancient egyptians maybe they did a light bulb maybe they they came up
01:59:49.220
with the first battery in fact we have like the baghdad battery and we go look at that that's they
01:59:53.060
they again they were making batteries baby um and then it's like how did they build the megalithic
01:59:57.760
structures there's a lot of different schools of thought but if you go down the technological
02:00:00.460
aspect people are like they had resonance and frequency harmonics technologies you can move a large
02:00:05.720
object if you can get it to vibrate it becomes actually quite light and um so i i wonder john
02:00:12.900
through your research was there any ever notion a notion that you came across where they had a thing
02:00:18.280
maybe these several hundred years ago and then that thing went away that thing being some form of
02:00:23.880
technology and then it re-emerges and is introduced to us again to to convince us of something uh that's
02:00:30.260
a fascinating question man and the short answer is no i haven't found any evidence of that but i am
02:00:35.600
open-minded to it and the influence that these computers have had on our lives and it when you
02:00:41.060
trace back where does this all come from it comes from what a semiconductor and what is a semiconductor
02:00:46.060
they just discovered that if they use some what is it sand basically they use some sand in a certain
02:00:53.660
way they can create these logic gates basically if you have two legs that have positive it'll let
02:01:00.000
out a positive thing and then you connect them together and you can start to make what we call
02:01:03.740
digital devices and this is this all goes back like less than 100 years all of this technology as
02:01:08.860
we know it now and we've got to the point where people are spending on average according to the
02:01:13.020
surveys five hours a day on their smartphones alone people are meeting their partners and even the
02:01:19.700
parents of their children through these devices they're swiping away people are ordering their
02:01:24.560
food on these apps a lot of people are working in offices where they're behind screens all the time
02:01:28.140
this it's phenomenal the influence that this has had on the human experience and so much of it goes
02:01:33.460
back to a few dudes working out how to make a semiconductor using these diets i'm not even i'm not
02:01:39.400
even a tech guy like i'm just using this these ideas in the basic sense people just working out how
02:01:43.560
to build a physical logic gate and going from there and then you look at ai the way it is today and
02:01:49.480
the amount of power that this stuff has truly phenomenal in my opinion for example i use this
02:01:54.580
service cost 20 bucks a month 20 per month and for this you can make i think like 20 or 30 minutes
02:01:59.580
worth of ai videos i got it to make a video on the wind turbine hoax okay i was just testing this
02:02:06.260
technology out this is about a year ago so i said please make a video i always use the word please
02:02:10.460
when i'm using ai i've got my own reasons for that exactly so i said please make a video on the
02:02:16.520
wind turbine hoax i've never made a video i've never done any research on the wind turbine hoax
02:02:21.000
i don't really know much about it so i thought just make a video on that it comes back to me a
02:02:25.440
couple minutes of a couple minutes later with a video that included so it wrote the script it wrote
02:02:30.400
the script by itself it did the ai video very convincing ai video voice it found the stock
02:02:35.560
footage so all this footage of these are giant wind turbines like you know the wind farms that capture
02:02:40.340
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it put together its own theory it then put the overlays of the text it used it found its own music
02:03:47.440
and it even and it took me a couple of listens back to notice this even put in sound effects so like
02:03:52.920
seven different elements it did all by itself and its conclusion in this video that wind turbines were a
02:03:59.720
hoax and they're not generating power they're actually using power from the main grid and this
02:04:05.980
is all just an attempt basically to steal taxpayer dollars it did this in two it did this in two
02:04:10.520
minutes and this is a twenty dollar a month service so i uploaded that to my channel i uploaded it to
02:04:16.680
my channel and to be fair a couple of people did notice in the comments they're like hold on because
02:04:21.640
it wasn't my voice you see and i think that was the giveaway then about a month or two later a very
02:04:26.720
dear friend of mine and somebody who i collaborate with let's put it that way i started noticing that
02:04:32.500
his videos his you know conspiracy videos they sounded just a little bit off and i put two and two
02:04:41.000
together i'd received an email from this company this ai company saying oh we've got a new service
02:04:45.000
you can now upload your voice and we'll make your videos for you in your voice so i hit this guy up
02:04:50.800
i said bro these the last few videos on your channel have you been using this service with
02:04:56.340
your voice and he admitted to me yes now i was the only one who's going to notice that only because i
02:05:02.600
knew that technology was available to the same service that he and i were both using he could
02:05:06.440
easily upload those videos his own audience wouldn't know that he didn't make them you guys
02:05:10.960
could do it too if you wanted to that's how far this technology has come already so imagine how far
02:05:15.320
we're getting five or ten years so to go back to your question was any technology that was found
02:05:19.660
and then lost or what have you i haven't seen any ancient ancient old books or texts talking about
02:05:25.860
this but i don't know where this technology came from and i can't help but wonder if this is like
02:05:30.940
a revelation and on that note if you could go and get that um image that i put this the news
02:05:37.780
dot sky dot com the franz ferdinand prophetic number plate this is where we get into stuff that's
02:05:42.840
really trippy because a lot of people are going to come to me and say okay jlb you don't believe
02:05:45.940
in outer space but you don't believe in flat earth you don't believe in ancient history
02:05:49.260
you don't know how we got here but you don't think the sources go back more than a few hundred
02:05:53.560
years you don't believe that one of the oldest cities in europe is more than a couple like okay
02:05:57.840
tell us what's going on here i don't know i'm just like everybody else i don't know i'm trying to make
02:06:01.040
sense of it but i can show you this and i can ask you for what you make of it if you go to that sky
02:06:05.740
news article about the number plate of franz ferdinand's car so world war ii a lot of historians will tell you
02:06:13.260
it was kind of fermented by what happened in world war one a lot of our modern history goes
02:06:18.540
back to world war one then you had a few years in between world war one and two then you had world
02:06:23.460
war two and then after that you had the creation of israel and all the things that have followed
02:06:26.620
since then so how did world war one begin some dude called gavrilo princip shoots some other dude
02:06:34.300
called franz ferdinand and then serbia and austria hungary get angry and blah blah blah next thing you've
02:06:39.540
got a world war to complete schmuzzle it all started because some guy shot some other guy in a
02:06:43.860
car that was how world war one started according to the official story now according to the official
02:06:50.140
story world war one ended on armistice day which was 11 11 18. if you look at that image of the car
02:06:59.720
go and take a look at the number plate and again remember we spent 12 13 years at school and most of
02:07:05.100
us don't know this take a look at the number plate of that car for the people who listen to this
02:07:09.480
as an audio rather than watches a video let me tell you what the number plate is it's a iii 118
02:07:17.320
okay i'll repeat that a iii 118 is the number plate of the car that franz ferdinand was traveling in the
02:07:27.840
day that he was shot his shooting effectively leading to world war one that would subsequently
02:07:33.220
in one way or another lead to modern history as we know it world war ii the creation of israel and
02:07:39.940
everything that followed goes back to some dude shooting some other dude in the car the guy in
02:07:44.440
that car was franz ferdinand the number plate is a iii 118 four years later the same war would end
02:07:51.460
on 11 11 18 which is to say that the car where world war one began he was traveling in his car
02:08:00.320
that car's number plate had encoded within it the date of the end of the same war four years later
02:08:06.840
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conspiracy museum that's the official story so how could it be that the events that led to the start
02:09:48.680
of world war one and modern history as we know it that the number played off that car would have
02:09:52.740
encoded within it the end of the same war four years later 11 11 18 and how could it be that almost
02:09:58.560
nobody knows about this the normies don't know about it school didn't tell them the awake people
02:10:02.920
don't know about it because no one's telling them either no one's doing their own research they say
02:10:06.620
they are but they're not really no one knows about this stuff and then this crazy dude this john the
02:10:10.920
bond guy comes on and says guys look at the number plate how is this possible 11 11 11 18 is in the
02:10:17.300
plate from the car that in 1914 supposedly left at the beginning of this world war how is this possible
02:10:23.520
how is this possible so it's i have there's there would be two lines of thought right where it's
02:10:29.640
like and and it's i don't i don't know i don't know the answer but i know uh people like you would
02:10:35.440
say well this is uh written history and this is like it's like they're leaving clues it's almost like
02:10:41.320
we like this idea of consent they have to give you um clues as to what they're doing and if you don't
02:10:46.800
catch on that's their consent this is like the vampire rule other people would say uh there's
02:10:51.800
numerology that's encoded in the into the fabric of this reality and because shit like this happens
02:10:56.780
all the time like when you show this to me i didn't even flinch because this is not the first
02:11:02.640
time we've seen things like this where there's like numerological signs as to start dates end dates
02:11:08.200
weird things that happen in the world it just seems all too often the question is is it there before
02:11:14.180
or is this a feature of wherever we're at like does this happen organically right i get into this
02:11:20.920
train of thought where when i receive things like that it's just like it clearly feels important
02:11:26.840
but its nature is such that it's it's very hard to define or to discern one way or another so i i put
02:11:33.080
it there for later consideration and it kind of goes into this bag that i label like the theater of it all
02:11:40.380
and and that is to say that oftentimes it feels like this is a mostly on rails experience and it's it's
02:11:48.740
like an experience that's similar to theater you know you're you're watching like bernie made off
02:11:54.360
make off with your money right george floyd's teacher is a um wainel sexton like okay sexton
02:12:01.520
right there's a there's like there's a lot of humor in it too like some of these things they're they're
02:12:05.820
like funny um but there's all these strange idiosyncrasies that i haven't found a way to make
02:12:12.240
a tremendous amount of sense of them because there is like the revelation of the method and i go kind of
02:12:15.820
maybe that resonates with me a little bit but not so much um it's almost like it's theater for those
02:12:22.340
with eyes to see and i'm not totally sold on that idea either but when i look at like you know donald
02:12:27.220
trump is a great example there's a lot of really strange shit surrounding him you know from the
02:12:31.540
ingersoll lockwood books to his uncle you know cleaning up uh tesla's inventions ingersoll lockwood
02:12:37.640
books are another great like so this is uh written in 1890 maybe supposedly but there's like not much
02:12:44.600
history behind it and then it pops up in 2015 2016 and we're like oh look here it is again you know
02:12:50.840
it's yeah it's one of those things it feels like it feels like theater um so so what i mean what do
02:12:56.820
you make of these things john well you guys mentioned the names the strange names of these events one of
02:13:02.120
my favorites is dr wayne carver who was the autopsy guy at that school shooting whose name i won't
02:13:09.480
repeat the school shooting because that's how my first youtube channel got kiboshed was for talking
02:13:13.720
about the school don't worry listen say it this will go on we're going to put so what we do for
02:13:18.400
youtube is put up clips safe clips for like five minutes or less but it'll go on rumble it'll live
02:13:23.620
everywhere else we one of our most popular episodes is uh foundering we just debunked or debunked the
02:13:29.000
sandy hook so feel free to speak man there you go you said it you said the name no i refuse to use
02:13:33.980
the name in real life or on the internet i don't use this name anymore it is verboten but you know the event
02:13:38.680
i'm talking about and the guy who did the autopsies dr wayne carver right so these guys have a sense
02:13:44.440
of humor but in terms of this number plate of this car i don't know how or why this stuff happens
02:13:50.840
but it does happen a lot this is just one example i can point to if i had to come up with an
02:13:56.120
interpretation and it's just an interpretation i might think that this is like an easter egg
02:14:02.040
where whoever or whatever created this place has left little easter eggs so that some of us
02:14:10.740
who are curious might realize this place isn't what we've been told in our case we've been told
02:14:16.760
we evolved from some simpler species we're on a giant spin ball going around the sun
02:14:21.000
this place is civilization has been here for thousands of years this uh earth as we know has
02:14:26.000
been here for millions or billions of years blah blah blah these are all the stories we're told
02:14:28.960
little things like this could be easter eggs i think to encourage some of us to try and think
02:14:35.360
outside the box to think a little bit more deeply to reconsider what this place is but that's just an
02:14:39.880
interpretation of it and it's very biased and subjective we all project what we want onto
02:14:44.480
different things so i might be projecting onto this the easter egg element but i don't know how this
02:14:49.120
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what do you think about this idea because i think that's definitely a plausible um
02:15:54.680
it's a plausible idea uh but we've been flirting with this idea of how this realm works intrinsically
02:16:02.360
so uh all right so let's just say again whether you believe the bible or not there was a major blood
02:16:09.720
sacrifice from the son of god in order to um liberate the world this is how the story goes
02:16:17.960
and we know that people do blood sacrifice all over the world and they continue to do it whether
02:16:24.600
it be ancient history which we might not believe in or current day they're doing these things and
02:16:30.200
they're uh creating these altars and so how do i say this i don't know there's something about the
02:16:36.280
blood transmutation of the blood something about like even things like adrenochrome the suffering uh the
02:16:41.160
butthole of small children these are significant things that people use to transmute reality because
02:16:49.800
i i think that the reality we live in if we want to think about it as a matrix like like ones and zeros
02:16:56.760
you can you can make things happen if you input the correct uh sacrifice how to rewrite the code right
02:17:04.440
right yeah it just feels like that it feels like rewriting it i mean we're using a sloppy metaphor
02:17:08.840
because we only know how to talk about computers and not this uh reality that we're in which is
02:17:13.800
it does look like a computer it looks like a simulation but it's much more complicated than that
02:17:17.960
um and some people have discovered the underworkings of this so when you see these numbers on on this car
02:17:24.840
here you'll say like wow this looks like it was completely set up and i was like yeah it does but
02:17:31.080
what if that's done on purpose what if that's like a some kind of an alchemical uh sign or alchemical
02:17:39.960
process put into into this ether whatever the hell's going on for this war to start and end on this
02:17:46.120
date you know what i mean like what if that's a necessary part of this like so when you look at
02:17:51.480
i'll admit john when i when i talk to you i i recognize a lot of um you do a great job of
02:17:59.160
delivering information without making any claims which is a good thing right you're like look i'm
02:18:05.880
showing you these compelling things i'm not sure what to make of it but this is alarming this is
02:18:10.520
strange and and i think that's a great um way to to give people information because so many people
02:18:15.960
want to go then to the uh well what are you saying it's like i don't have to be saying anything i'm
02:18:20.840
trying to show you that i'm just saying yeah i'm saying this this is wild so um i i i tend to
02:18:28.040
take the same approach to things i will say that it seems likely that based off the information that
02:18:32.920
we we have and this could be a ruse but there seems to be some element that either it is happening or
02:18:38.840
they want you to believe it's happening elites for lack of a better term are engaging in ceremonial
02:18:44.920
sacrifice ritualistic killings and these things you know it's a trope on in hollywood
02:18:50.760
but the elements are always there and and what elements are those well there's a geometry
02:18:54.600
element right um in the let's say an enclosed pentagram in a circle with salt on the ground
02:18:59.640
right but geometry seems to play a role in this and then there's also a frequency a resonance a
02:19:05.160
harmonics aspect and that could be the music that could also be the chanting right okay so we have
02:19:10.600
harmonics and resonance we have geometry there's also um an energetic exchange right we know
02:19:16.920
given uh i forget what the what the experiments are where you can speak positive or negative
02:19:22.200
affirmations to water and then when it freezes it it either takes on a an organized crystalline
02:19:27.400
form or it takes on a chaotic crystalline form right if you're giving negative affirmations to it it will
02:19:33.160
be chaotic when it freezes when you look under a microscope and if you speak positive ones it'll be
02:19:37.800
organized and there'll be beautiful symmetry and geometry in it when it freezes um and the same
02:19:42.200
thing is displayed in plants right if you play certain music to plants it either has negative
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or positive so we know that this sound has an energetic aspect well um we also know what a
02:19:51.880
conductor is uh metal is a great conductor so is uh liquid liquid is a is a great conductor so
02:19:58.200
there's often the the letting of blood right so now you have this this moment where everything is
02:20:03.240
negatively charged because it's a negative experience for whoever you're sacrificing
02:20:08.040
um so that's the energy that's going out that would be the same energy that made chaotic crystalline
02:20:12.040
formations it would be the same energy that kills the plant when you subjected to it over time
02:20:16.120
um and then you have the geometry aspect which people who go on psychedelic trips will often
02:20:21.320
claim that there is a sacred geometry aspect to our reality like behind the the physical there's
02:20:27.400
geometry and that's a kind of a hard thing to pin down but anecdotally it's there right um so you
02:20:32.920
have this geometry you have this conductor in blood it's conducting energy what kind of energy well it's
02:20:39.160
a negative energy there's also the harmonics and frequencies of the chanting it seems that through
02:20:44.440
geometry through frequency through energy you can alter this realm in one way or another and so when
02:20:53.560
it comes to the the sacrifice of jesus christ it seems that god if you're to take that story as the truth
02:20:59.320
is manipulating his own creation in the way that you do right where it's like if you're building a house
02:21:06.600
um and and you want to change something about it well you've got to go down to the fundamental levels
02:21:10.760
the building blocks of it and alter them and so it almost seems like that's what happens here and
02:21:16.600
you know what i've said here is a lot but i think the question that i really want to ask you john is
02:21:21.000
where in this entire thing do you place if at all spirituality that's a good question man and i was
02:21:28.360
having an interview with somebody where i was meant to be the guy asking questions and the guest was
02:21:32.440
meant to be the guest and he started asking me some good questions and he asked me at one point
02:21:37.160
am i spiritual and i was like you know what that's a very good question am i spiritual
02:21:43.640
i don't know that's what i said to him like that's a good question man i don't know am i spiritual
02:21:47.240
because i had i've got these theories about where we are who we are why we're here what the point of this
02:21:52.520
is i've got these theories these ideas just like we all do we've all got our own conception of
02:21:56.040
what the purpose of all this is and i think about it a lot but that doesn't make me spiritual and i
02:22:02.840
don't meditate at least not in a in a formal sense or in a um a scheduled sense like i don't sit there
02:22:10.200
cross-legged trying to empty my mind i did try it many years ago and i wasn't very good at it and like
02:22:15.400
many things i've tried over the years i quit unfortunately i've done this with a lot of things
02:22:19.320
i just oh yeah seems cool you do it for a few days and then you think oh i just can't do it today
02:22:24.040
because i'm busy i'll do it tomorrow i'll do it next week and then before you know it's been 10
02:22:27.320
years i guess i quit that and then i don't pray i don't go to organized religion and pray i don't
02:22:32.120
pray at night to god or anything like this so i don't meditate i don't pray so in these easy to
02:22:38.360
point out examples of spirituality no i'm i don't think i qualify as um spiritual in that sense but not
02:22:45.560
because i'm against it not because i think there's anything wrong with it if anything i'm probably
02:22:48.520
missing some spirituality from my life i'm probably missing some proper scheduled or regimented
02:22:55.800
attempt to interact with the immaterial world in a way that's beneficial i'm probably missing that to
02:23:02.120
be honest with you so i hope that answers your question i don't i don't think i am spiritual
02:23:06.440
i don't think so it at all incorporated into your view because i've gotten to the point and i'm and i'm
02:23:13.720
not saying that anybody can get here outside of maybe the path that i took i could only speak
02:23:17.960
to my own experiences but i was uh as we talked about before at the top of the show a conspiracy
02:23:24.280
theorist for a long time and i wasn't raised religious at all i had no spiritual well i can't
02:23:29.560
say no spirituality for a brief moment when i was a child before my grandmother died she was um into
02:23:35.080
like remote viewing and clairvoyance and things like that not something that she shared with me
02:23:38.680
only something that i would find out in hindsight when i became a teenager she had been passed away for a
02:23:42.200
decade but i i never was religious i was never christian i didn't poo poo it i didn't dismiss it
02:23:50.600
and admittedly in my research a lot of things do end up pointing back to as i'm sure you would have
02:23:55.240
found in in your research many things do there's a there's a tether point to the bible or some sort
02:24:00.200
of biblical text that happens over and over again and so it was always incorporated to some degree but i
02:24:05.720
kept it light and then it wasn't until i had a profound experience uh where i felt as though i
02:24:12.280
no longer had the luxury of pondering whether or not there was a spiritual realm filled with spiritual
02:24:18.680
entities um i had been exposed to it one way or another uh in a pretty negative way and then i had
02:24:26.040
to do something about it so so that forever changed my and i don't think i don't think people can get
02:24:32.520
there without that experience maybe you can maybe if you were raised in the church or whatever but
02:24:38.120
i think um there are a lot of strange aspects of life we just highlighted a lot of them um and a lot
02:24:47.560
of them seem to be of a of a of a nature that is best described as supernatural because we just lack
02:24:54.920
lack any other way to define it um so i i came to all of this not until a 30 something year old man
02:25:04.040
and that is to say that my interpretation of these things probably isn't conventional i'm finding that
02:25:09.320
out now because i find myself in a christian space um where that was never the case before and i find that
02:25:16.120
there's actually much minutiae to fight over uh in this community and so um i i think i'm finding that i i
02:25:23.960
don't i don't analyze these texts in a conventional way at all and that my interpretation of them
02:25:30.760
is always flavored right we all have our biases uh by conspiracy and and the supernatural and i and i
02:25:37.640
do find that all those things together have acted as a sort of key where i'm much more able to i i think
02:25:45.000
understand these concepts where whereas before it was like what's the conjoining tissue what's the
02:25:48.920
conjoining tissue so so like everything you're talking about here today um i can't help but feel
02:25:55.960
that there would be immense spiritual interplay that you would find throughout this process many
02:26:02.680
idiosyncrasies that that would be hard to define otherwise uh as as anything but supernatural is that
02:26:09.880
been the case well supernatural i'm very open to because when i went through school i did when you
02:26:16.920
get to senior high school in australia listen victoria where i'm from originally when you get
02:26:20.600
to your final t's of high school you have to take english and you have to take at least one mathematics
02:26:26.440
but outside of that you can choose what other subjects you want to take i took physics i took
02:26:29.880
chemistry i was really into the science stuff and i really believed in this idea of thanks to science
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how we work and there is just the material and i didn't believe in any of the what you might call
02:27:45.640
supernatural stuff there was always a logical rational explanation yeah and it was only after
02:27:51.000
i got into this conspiracy stuff 10 or 12 years ago only after i had a bunch of experiences in my real
02:27:56.600
life that i couldn't explain there are no explanations so far as i can tell that just rely
02:28:02.280
on cause and effect this thing leads to that these atoms or these molecules reacting in this way
02:28:09.880
those explanations that used to make sense to me and still do to a large extent you drop a pen the
02:28:14.520
pen force physics and chemistry i still i still like these things i still think they explain a lot of
02:28:20.040
things but there are some experiences that i don't think the conventional explanations can explain
02:28:25.400
and so if you want to call that supernatural you can call it that and for just one example
02:28:31.080
when i did my deep dive into the truman show i decided to spend some time going frame by frame
02:28:36.920
through the truman show and coming up with my interpretation of what this film might be
02:28:40.440
revealing because i'd already heard about the uh the serious thing and so i wanted to look into well
02:28:45.640
this uh serious star the dog star freemasonry i'm going to do this analysis might take me a few
02:28:50.200
days whatever i'm going to put together and so i put together this analysis of the truman show
02:28:54.200
where i came to the conclusion that he was finding out things that he was meant to find
02:28:58.840
that it wasn't by accident and then in my own so-called real life literally that and at this
02:29:04.760
time i was 30 years old in the truman show even though jim carrey was about 35 or 36 when that film
02:29:09.880
was filmed uh thereabouts in the film he's on day 10 919 or something like that and if you work it out
02:29:17.320
he's about 30 years old so in the film the character truman is about 30 years old i was about 30 years
02:29:21.640
old when i did my analysis into the truman show my esoteric analysis i called it then literally
02:29:26.520
within days of publishing that i found out some things about my own so-called real life
02:29:33.800
that weren't so dissimilar to what truman discovered and i can't go into too much more detail about it than
02:29:39.880
that but all i'm trying to explain to you is things happened in my life immediately after this esoteric
02:29:48.280
analysis of a movie a hollywood movie from what 20 years ago from like 19 1999 something like that
02:29:56.040
and i did this analysis back in like 2018 17 18 so what i'm trying to say to you is people will say
02:30:04.840
that's just a coincidence and okay without knowing all the details of what i'm talking about fair enough
02:30:09.640
you can write it off as a coincidence but i've had too many of these experiences now
02:30:14.520
where i can no longer say it's just a coincidence it seems like something else is happening either
02:30:21.560
my actions today are somehow affecting what happens in the past as crazy as that sounds
02:30:27.640
or i'm discovering things now because now is the time to discover them
02:30:33.400
and there's some supernatural force at play and i know how crazy that sounds but i read these books
02:30:38.200
called the sync book so earlier on in this stream that we're doing now i knew that you guys wanted to
02:30:42.920
do the first 30 minutes and then cut to the patrons only and i knew that because i watched the show
02:30:48.520
with human vibration so i had my prep ready but for whatever reason we didn't break your first part
02:30:53.720
of the stream until a different it wasn't the 30th minute do you guys remember what minute we broke
02:30:57.400
into this probably 48 yeah 42 minutes 42 minutes for some reason at the 42 minute mark top said okay
02:31:06.760
we're 42 minutes in we need to go and i wrote that down because i'm like oh 42 interesting 42 is the number
02:31:12.040
of sync there are these guys called the sync books they've got a website called the syncbook.com
02:31:17.320
and if you've ever seen that uh youtube video called 911 predicts back back to the future predicts
02:31:24.440
911 which has millions of views and was very influential in their conspiracy culture when it
02:31:29.880
was released if you've ever seen that it was made by a guy called joe alexander who was a top 10 nba
02:31:35.080
draft pick believe it or not but somehow he got into this mystical stuff this esoteric stuff and he got
02:31:40.680
involved with these syncbook guys well to cut a very long story short the syncbook dudes released
02:31:45.800
two books there it is that's the website two books both of them called the sync book so 26 chapters in
02:31:52.520
both each chapter belongs to a different author and all of them are giving their own interpretation of
02:31:57.800
these so-called coincidences either in movies tv shows pop culture or in their own life or a mixture of
02:32:04.840
the two so at a very basic level you might think of a friend hey i haven't called him for a while
02:32:11.320
and then before you know it your phone rings and it's him calling well what are the chances i was
02:32:14.840
just thinking of that guy i haven't spoken in months just as i was thinking about him he calls right
02:32:18.520
that's a very simple example right through to the more extreme examples like some dude writes an
02:32:24.280
article about the truman show this dude finds that his whole life is a lie then he finds that a few
02:32:28.680
days later actually your whole life was a lie crazy story and everything in between they had 26 authors
02:32:34.680
26 chapters and then they released a second book another 26 authors another 26 chapters of guys talking
02:32:40.520
about these synchronicities and in their work the number 42 is the significant number and i was reading
02:32:49.560
one of their books for the first time this is back in 2017 john not to interrupt you real quick uh
02:32:54.520
catcher in the rye which we covered yesterday also 26 chapters really yeah dude john i don't know if
02:33:02.280
you know how strange catcher in the rye is uh but i mean that's that that book is a through line all the
02:33:08.600
way to from the jfk assassination to uh luigi mangelion or whatever the hell his name is who just killed
02:33:15.480
that other uh that other ceo of that um united healthcare company it's very strange that's that's
02:33:20.760
fascinating actually what are the chances and so anyway 42 really significant and i was living at
02:33:26.760
that time it only occurred to me when i was halfway through the first book at that time i was living
02:33:32.360
at number 242 of the street that i lived on so i'm reading this book all these different authors
02:33:37.720
one of the common threads all these guys talking about coincidences esoteric ideas mysticism the
02:33:43.160
supernatural this number 42 keeps coming up and i realized i live at 242 and then i realized that
02:33:51.000
the number 42 was significant to me for a reason to do with my date of birth and i'm like now what are
02:33:56.040
the odds that i'm reading this book 42 is important the 242 etc and then when i got home i was looking at
02:34:02.200
my website and on the banner of my website which i made in 2016 so this is before i ever heard of these
02:34:09.080
freaking sync books i made this banner where i put together images from like if you go and check
02:34:14.760
out john the bond.com right now you can see the banner i made that myself with this program called
02:34:20.120
gimp g-i-m-p generic i don't know interface manipulation no generic image manipulation program
02:34:26.760
i guess it's a poor man's photoshop because i am after all a poor man so i made this with the free
02:34:31.400
hand select tool every single one of those dudes on that banner so you've got characters from the land
02:34:36.680
before time you've got the dudes who supposedly went to the moon you've got george bush you've got
02:34:42.120
barack obama you've got the girl from the truman show where she's holding up the chef's pal you've
02:34:46.920
got alder suxley all these people front and center on that banner which i made i was inspired to make
02:34:53.160
this when i launched john the bond.com back in 2016 front and center is a dude who is the boat captain
02:34:58.440
okay he's the boat captain from waking life by richard linklater i don't know if you guys have seen
02:35:04.440
that film but it's a really awesome film i recommend it so anyway that boat that he's traveling
02:35:08.440
in has on has on it the numbers four two four two four for some reason now when i made that banner i
02:35:14.440
didn't know that and i didn't know why four two or two four was significant so what i'm trying to
02:35:18.120
say to you guys is only when i was reading this book did it start to occur to me how much this number
02:35:23.560
keeps coming up in pop culture in tvs in movies which have nothing to do with me seemingly
02:35:28.360
but also in my so-called real life to the point where i get invited by these guys these nephilim
02:35:35.000
death squad guys to come on to their show and they normally break for the patrons at the 30 minute
02:35:40.200
mark but for some bizarre reason and this wasn't scripted was there's no conspiracy here i didn't
02:35:45.080
tell you guys to do this you break away at which minute 42 the 42nd minute so i don't know
02:35:52.360
if this qualifies as supernatural for you guys but i'm telling you there is something going on here
02:35:57.880
i don't know what it is i don't know why it happens but there is something going on but it is only
02:36:02.600
noticed by those with eyes to see in my john now now would be a good time to tell you that uh we did
02:36:09.160
this on purpose like yeah exactly like are they doing these things on purpose or is this just serendipitous
02:36:16.440
and it's like not just serendipitous but is it supposed to happen this way is that your number
02:36:20.360
is that the thing that's going to follow you forever it's like maybe well it's not just my
02:36:23.640
number though it's not just my number i'm just one of the people who've noticed it right but it's a
02:36:27.720
number that's been happening since before i got here and probably will keep happening afterwards
02:36:32.760
and one of the reasons why the sync book dudes talk about it is because say in the hitchhiker's
02:36:37.000
guide to the galaxy what is the number they give the supercomputer the number and what is the number
02:36:41.800
that he comes up with thousands of years later oh uh is it 42 is then is like of course it's 42
02:36:48.920
of life or something like that man that's a great movie that's such a throwaway moment too because
02:36:54.760
you feel like as if it's not meaningful right because that's kind of the the joke is all this
02:37:00.200
time to figure out what the meaning of life is and it's 42. yeah and then in the bbc version because
02:37:05.480
obviously you've probably seen the hollywood version but there was a bbc version and in that version which
02:37:10.520
is one that i've seen they come and they get the answer and he keeps saying do you really want to
02:37:15.800
know and they're like yes tell us and he's like you're not going to like it they're like tell us
02:37:21.080
and then he said the answer is and they're like yes he's like is yes 42 and then they say 42 and then
02:37:30.040
the computer says something like yes this was very difficult to calculate yeah they've got an
02:37:35.480
understated sense of humor the bridge so 42 is a number that's in pop culture since before i got here
02:37:39.880
there are other movies or tv shows that pick up on the 42 that's one of the reasons why the sync book
02:37:44.040
people were in on it but what i'm trying to tell you is in my real life i read that book when i was
02:37:48.040
living at 242 42 was encoded within my birth date and it turns out it was encoded even within the guy
02:37:54.280
who's front and center of the banner that i made a couple of years before i'd ever read the sync books
02:37:59.400
and then i chat with you guys and we cut the 42nd minute mark now if someone comes to me and
02:38:03.400
says that's all just coincidence i say fine the same person will tell me that the number played on
02:38:08.520
france ferdinand's car is just a coincidence the same person will tell me that the millennium hilton
02:38:13.640
this hotel that's across from the world trade center with the phone number two one two six
02:38:17.000
nine three two zero zero one they'll tell me that that's just a coincidence if you write that phone
02:38:21.000
number that this is a phone number for the millennium hilton looks like the black monolith from
02:38:24.360
the other space odyssey if you write that phone number down two one two six nine three two zero zero one
02:38:30.600
well two two six the 26th of february 93 that was the date of the world trade center bombings it was also the
02:38:38.040
date that they released falling down with michael douglas the last four digits two zero zero one
02:38:43.560
where the year that the world trade center towers themselves came falling down and this all happened
02:38:47.800
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yes another 55 church street that looks like a black monolith from 2001 a space odyssey
02:39:55.640
the same person will tell me that's all just a coincidence so some people have eyes to see some
02:40:00.200
people do not what sometimes what i suspect is happening here is like when let's say the elites
02:40:05.480
right we're going to use that terminology here when they want to uh inundate us with some sort of
02:40:11.160
messaging well they usually do it you know you can find it it's like it's on a super bowl stage it's
02:40:15.720
at a big concert uh it's in a hollywood film it's in a music video and you can find the various symbolism
02:40:21.560
and you know that that was left there by you know somebody with a plan but then there are these other
02:40:27.400
things where in order to attribute them to human beings well these human beings have to be capable
02:40:32.040
of like 5d 6d 7d chess you know in order to go back in time and do all these different things but i
02:40:38.200
find that the more i've gone down this like path of christianity or or whatever it is that i'm on uh
02:40:46.520
i used to previously think that the creator of this world realm god would be unrelatable right i was much
02:40:53.240
more comfortable when i was younger thinking him thinking of him as an amorphous energetic cloud
02:40:57.960
somewhere out in the universe that all consciousness returns to because if the first law of thermodynamics
02:41:02.920
is you cannot create or destroy matter you can't create you can only change its form that was a horrible
02:41:07.640
paraphrasing of it but i thought maybe the same thing could be said for consciousness where does it
02:41:11.880
go can it be destroyed can it be duplicated does it return to a source right and and and that was
02:41:17.320
kind of like this way of me looking at other people and being like how do you think that you
02:41:21.240
possibly have the intellect to define god and then i started to realize that the nature of this realm
02:41:26.760
is fractal right we can find like the golden ratio the fibonacci sequence under a microscope but you
02:41:32.200
could also observe it on on a pine cone or something like that right it's like as above so below these
02:41:37.240
these these things they echo on the minutiae all the way up to the macro and so i thought in that way
02:41:43.880
then maybe god is sort of relatable if we were truly made in in god's image and it seems that
02:41:49.000
no matter how small you look and no matter how big you look you see the same thing so maybe the
02:41:54.120
same thing is said for like systems right we think of ourselves as as highly evolved and so we can
02:41:59.960
create these judicial systems but then when you start to read the bible you get this idea that there's
02:42:04.600
very much a courtroom case playing out right now um and there are witnesses and there are those who are
02:42:10.680
bearing testimony and and there are those who will be judged and i go well that's interesting because
02:42:15.320
that's right there and and those are within our is that another example of the fractal nature of
02:42:19.320
reality um and so if we look over and we say these elites are trying to manipulate the realm with
02:42:26.520
uh geometry energy you know uh resonance frequency and maybe that's the same way that god manipulates
02:42:33.880
this realm well it seems then that a lot of the things that we're doing are things that exist on a
02:42:38.600
spiritual level in some way or another according to the bible so then if these elites are constantly
02:42:45.400
trying to subliminal message us you know um initiate us in one way shape or form there are
02:42:50.600
those who think that we've all been subjected to enough rituals of the masonic variety that we are
02:42:54.760
all initiated to some degree well maybe god does it too and maybe these these moments that you can't
02:43:01.080
really attribute to human beings because i don't think we're capable of playing chess on that high of
02:43:06.040
a level across that large of a span of time maybe that's god doing the same thing maybe it's not
02:43:12.360
their idea to inundate our subconscious mind with little whispers and clues maybe that is a spiritual
02:43:18.600
truism about the realm that we inhabit they do their own version of it but even without them maybe and
02:43:25.000
look this is highly speculative this is just like what i'm really great at is just speculating baselessly
02:43:30.840
with no information right but maybe it's god nudging you every once in a while hi you see this
02:43:36.840
you see this because there's a there's one thing happening in the foreground but if you look in the
02:43:40.200
background there's something else and it kind of beckons to you and it wants you to look at it a
02:43:44.280
little bit more scrutinizingly and if you do that typically you will find more idiosyncrasies more
02:43:49.720
things that almost couldn't be possible in in like a random universe where we just emerged from goo and then
02:43:56.200
turned into you know fish and yada yada grew legs um and so it doesn't work on that model
02:44:01.640
right it's almost going back to the flat earth thing but it does work on this other model where
02:44:05.000
there's an element that we're not taking into consideration and that element is a spiritual
02:44:08.360
realm filled with entities that don't have a physical corporeal form but do interact with this
02:44:13.720
realm one way or another and then you look at the mythos of all these different cultures and they
02:44:18.200
kind of thought the same mythos are fake bro we can't trace it back before 1800s that's true too but
02:44:23.560
i just like you don't know that maybe you can you've got to try maybe i'm just selling you a
02:44:28.040
load of baloney and someone has to call me out and trace the sources maybe who's going to step up to
02:44:33.400
the plate there's some i mean there's there are like hieroglyphs but again how the hell am i supposed
02:44:38.520
to uh well i can't carbon date shade because i'm a retard so also carbon dating is completely inaccurate
02:44:44.120
like they don't it's it's one of the worst forms of dating that we that we know of so and if we take
02:44:48.840
ed mabry's line of thought where the the speed of light is slowing down then that would have an
02:44:54.360
effect a tremendous effect on carbon dating because if the speed of light is in a constant and it's
02:44:58.520
degrading over time then you know our measurements of carbon dating are all screwed up that was at least
02:45:03.320
ed's uh take on it and so i don't know i just to me it it what i just said resonates with me in a way
02:45:11.640
where the type of person that i am i'm like research done done job going back to what you
02:45:18.200
said earlier a moment ago if i'm understanding you're right it sounds like you're kind of talking
02:45:21.800
about these energies and how much they influence us and so people who are musicians for example if you
02:45:27.400
speak to a musician and ask them where'd you get the idea for that song or what have you i've noticed
02:45:32.040
this they'll say they don't really know where it's kind of like they're just channeling something
02:45:36.280
whether it's musicians or authors i'll say they kind of when they're in the zone they feel like
02:45:39.960
they're channeling something right and not in a nefarious way or you know i'm being possessed by
02:45:44.280
the devil just they sit down and suddenly they've written five chapters of their book it just all
02:45:48.920
flowed or they've written a song it's all flowed i interviewed one musician one time and i said to him
02:45:53.240
because i'm really big on this idea of where does this inspiration come from and i'm using the word
02:45:57.880
inspiration what i mean is you've got an idea in your head maybe you're a painter where's this coming
02:46:02.200
from or you've just written this really good song that that doesn't just resonate with you and
02:46:06.440
your memories of that girl or that event but other people listen to it and it means
02:46:09.880
something to them where'd that song come from yeah yeah or this movie i've never spoken to like
02:46:14.360
a big-time film director but where do you get the ideas for these any of these creative processes where
02:46:19.640
does it come from inspiration is a term that we can use to describe that okay great a lot of people
02:46:24.760
think these hollywood film directors oh they've put a 9-11 in their film but the film is from 10 years
02:46:29.160
before 9-11 they must be in on it they call it predictive programming that's what i used to believe
02:46:33.880
these days i'm thinking to myself hold on what inspired me to put a 4-2-4-2 car at the front and
02:46:40.200
center of my banner no one told me 42 was important it just i was i was the guy sitting there in front of
02:46:47.240
a computer putting together a banner that took hours by the way to put that together it just happened
02:46:51.000
then i'm chatting with you guys what inspired you or what caused you or whatever word you want to use
02:46:55.800
to finish at minute number 42 maybe we are vessels of something bigger and in that sense this place is
02:47:02.520
like a giant stage or a giant theater production and we want to believe especially because we are
02:47:08.120
so proud and egoistic we want to believe that we're in full control of everything that we do and that we
02:47:12.920
say and that it's all us doing it the idea that maybe to some degree whether it's point one of a percent
02:47:19.720
or it's a hundred percent or some amount in between the idea that something else is using us
02:47:25.240
and even using is the wrong term because that's a loaded term but somehow we are playing out a bigger
02:47:30.520
image a bigger show a bigger performance that we can't quite understand but we're part of it
02:47:35.880
for the 70 or 80 years that we're here if we're lucky the idea that we're not in full control scares
02:47:40.200
a lot of people and it probably used to scare me whereas now i'm like you know what if i'm doing
02:47:44.840
something good or if i'm doing something that resonates or if whatever i'm doing is something that's worth
02:47:49.080
doing and i'm not my own inspiration but something else is that i can't see or understand okay i'm
02:47:54.440
comfortable with that it doesn't scare me anymore but i do i can see why people are scared of that idea
02:47:59.560
there's a i mean there's there's like precedent again this is a this is like a more this is like
02:48:05.480
a biblical show sort of we reference in a lot but there is precedent and i have testimony myself of uh
02:48:11.320
people telling me that i would do a certain thing and i i said i say this so much but they said uh
02:48:17.240
when i i had a falling out with the church and one of the women in the church was a
02:48:22.040
sort of a not a prophet i don't know what you'd call her she was a worship like a prayer leader
02:48:27.560
and she was somebody that would do these sort of things and i let me tell you i wanted nothing to
02:48:32.920
do with the church at this time or these people because they had wronged me in a like a very specific
02:48:39.080
way and she told me when i was ready to leave that she's like you would be talking you'll be talking
02:48:44.680
to millions of people about uh god and that really was it and what i wanted to say was fuck you
02:48:54.520
i won't i'm not going to do that i'm going to go drive a truck an 18 wheeler and do general
02:48:59.800
construction and make money and that's what i did for the next 10 years and then covet happened
02:49:05.320
and a bunch of other stuff happened and here we are and i look back on it our downloads are well
02:49:11.400
over a million is that a million specific people i don't know it's getting there and it's almost like
02:49:19.640
david said it in the beginning of the show like like we're on tracks it feels like like this life is
02:49:24.280
just on a certain track and it's like can i avoid going in this direction it almost feels like no but
02:49:31.080
i can choose my path towards where i'm going to end up and i can make it harder or i can make it
02:49:35.800
easier and uh maybe these numbers that pop up maybe that's our path because my number is the number four
02:49:42.040
that comes up everywhere i see it constantly david's is 33 and we see that shit all the time if i'm with
02:49:47.480
david we'll see that all all the time everywhere we're at two hours and 33 minutes yeah there you go um
02:49:54.760
so yeah it's i don't know maybe maybe these numbers are just the way of things and maybe
02:50:01.160
we're intrinsically tied to them and we see them and we replicate them and that's just can i ask you
02:50:08.040
this do you feel like this is all god's plan because one thing i do envy people who have real faith like
02:50:13.800
complete faith in faith in whatever it is like whatever god they think is in charge one thing i envy
02:50:19.720
is the peace and tranquility that must come from the idea that this is all part of god's plan in
02:50:25.880
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02:50:32.360
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spreaker.com that's s-p-r-e-a-k-e-r.com it's all going to work out it's all part of god's plan people who
02:51:33.560
have complete faith which i do not people who do must have this inner sense of tranquility
02:51:39.880
to never why would you worry if you believe this is god's plan you would never worry for a single
02:51:44.440
second if you have complete faith so i guess my question for you is do you feel like you're at
02:51:48.040
that stage you have complete faith in the in the plan when i do i uh i my wife often she's like what
02:51:55.560
the fuck is wrong with you dude like you're like i i used to be a very like a worried person anal always
02:52:02.680
i mean i still am with my work i am like what we do with this show after this episode i man there's
02:52:09.000
probably 15 things that i have to do to get this episode up and running and i'm going to do that to
02:52:13.960
the the best of my abilities and in a timely fashion because i need it to work and i want it to work
02:52:19.400
but i am not worried about where i'll end up i know that there is some sort of a plan but i know i
02:52:25.400
got to do what i have to do so in a sense i'm like uh i am worried about the things that i need to
02:52:31.400
do i need to take care of my children there's a dog here i have responsibility sure but i'm not
02:52:35.640
stressing about it and and there's in the last couple of years there's been times in my life
02:52:41.000
where i'm like oh my god everything can fall through right now and all the stuff i've been working for
02:52:46.520
can be gone in an instant and i have lost i mean i worked for odyssey.com the streaming website
02:52:52.760
lost that job i was like what am i going to do and i said you know what i could uh sit here and
02:52:58.280
ponder and worry but i didn't and somebody calls me from gas digital and they're like hey do you
02:53:05.320
want to run our merch and i'm like yes and then i do that and then that sort of falls through and
02:53:10.440
i'm like well you know i should worry what am i going to do next and then all of a sudden this
02:53:14.520
show is a success and like this is like providing so yeah i am uh i worry about things but i'm constantly
02:53:20.520
proven wrong it's like well why why are you worrying why are you worrying because it seems that like
02:53:24.920
everything i'm working towards if i just continue to like david says the prayer all the time he's like
02:53:30.280
i don't know what i'm doing but if i'm doing something wrong and god's watching me slap me
02:53:36.040
away from that point me in the right direction where am i supposed to go and when you're going
02:53:41.000
in the direction that you're supposed to go it uh things just seem to work out and it again i don't
02:53:46.280
know if it's my faith or if it's that this is an actual principle of this is what i'm supposed to
02:53:51.400
do so yeah it's i i don't really worry anymore about these things or where i'm going because
02:53:57.480
i've been proven wrong enough worrying like an asshole and it's also counterintuitive
02:54:03.400
when when i was younger um when i was really little i had an overwhelming like it was almost
02:54:08.840
you could almost call it like a delusion like a in the way that children are prone to fantasy but
02:54:14.040
i had a tremendous and i wasn't raised in a religious household but a tremendous
02:54:18.920
faith in this idea of like god and you know me being on his side i don't know like me you know
02:54:27.320
god loved me in other words and um when i got older when as a teenager i became homeless and that was
02:54:33.640
like a big test you know and and what i can happily say is i do believe that i got through those years
02:54:38.600
never shaking my fist at god never asking why this was happening um i don't think that was the right
02:54:44.200
move i think it's okay to wrestle with god and and like that but i didn't do that at all um
02:54:50.840
even though there was a lot of suffering and a lot of isolation and sadness uh i still had this idea
02:54:56.200
that god was going to provide one way or another and that was an amorphous god right because i wasn't
02:55:01.240
christian in any real meaningful sense of the word and what i'll say is i have hit rock bottom so many
02:55:07.400
times in my life because i'm a big like risk taker i don't really play it safe i will pick
02:55:12.360
up my family and move to a new place if i think that there's something out there for me or or
02:55:17.160
whatever and so um what i have learned and and learned is an interesting word here because i don't
02:55:22.920
have it down on paper but i have been shown that no matter how many doors get shut on you another one
02:55:29.800
will open and it happens in such a strange way that you can't attribute it to an individual you
02:55:34.680
can only say that i guess you can get a little bit new agey and say like the universe provides
02:55:40.760
but i like to refine that a little bit more and i do think that there is a an individual creator uh at
02:55:48.520
the head of all this but i i am now to the point where i wholeheartedly believe that i finally got
02:55:55.960
on the right track i think i wasn't on the right track i think that was my fault i think i should have
02:56:00.280
been asking god for things i should have been more less lukewarm and more pointed um and i don't know
02:56:07.720
i just my i think having a sense of conviction in some ways towards one way or the other is what god
02:56:16.760
appreciates more than somebody who's just flowing through well this experience it's it's a sense of
02:56:22.760
not just conviction but a sense of submission which is really hard to do yes but it's working out nicely
02:56:29.400
for me so i don't know that's the best that i could tell you and i i'm not here to preach to
02:56:33.800
anybody but it's it yeah when i submitted to like that this is the way to go but at 31 or something
02:56:42.120
like that whatever the hell it was i finally pivoted and was like okay we're gonna give this its due
02:56:48.840
we're gonna give the idea of god the bible and jesus christ um an actual authentic looking at instead
02:56:56.200
of just this peripheral glance whenever it came up and as soon as i did that i thought there was
02:57:01.720
something really here and then as soon as i started making content about it everything opened up and in
02:57:07.640
a way that i it's like i have been pushing against a solid brick wall for 30 years and then god was like
02:57:14.600
you damn retard look to the left and i was like oh this one moves okay and then i started pushing on
02:57:21.000
that and then all of a sudden everything just opened up to me in the hugest way and it only continues and
02:57:25.400
so um also the same thing i'm i'm i'm in love in very many ways with conspiracies and that is to say
02:57:32.280
i'm in love with trying to understand the nature of this realm and reality why are we here and all
02:57:37.000
these different things and all of that opened up in a huge way too where i kind of expected to like
02:57:43.560
start diving into the bible and find a lot of things would fall away and i'm like that doesn't make
02:57:48.200
sense that doesn't make sense and then i would basically get to a point where it's like don't
02:57:52.360
look at this the way that conventional christians look at it look at it like this and i go oh my god
02:57:58.120
that fits really well so all these things just bolster that now i'm to the point where like yeah
02:58:02.200
i don't i don't have anxiety about it i don't have anxiety i don't have uh depression uh you know i'm
02:58:07.880
my tops at it my only prayer is like i believe there's a path for us please just make sure i'm on
02:58:14.360
that path if i deviate from it knock me back onto the path the one that's in alignment with your
02:58:19.480
will because i do believe at the end of the day we all have our thing we're here for a reason we
02:58:24.840
have something we're meant to do and it is the most satisfying rewarding meaningful thing to be on that
02:58:31.960
path and you don't have to hear it from me you hear it from all kinds of people it's like once you
02:58:34.760
figure out what you're supposed to do man it's like yeah actually as gay as that sounds 100 once you
02:58:40.840
are in a place you get an overwhelming feeling that i'm locked into the correct track this is
02:58:44.840
what i'm meant to be doing i have a sense of purpose i'm driven and that eliminates anxiety
02:58:50.120
for sure well you both seem relaxed you both seem at peace and evidently your platform is going really
02:58:56.760
well so i say good on the both of you it's fantastic to see and i do like i said i envy people who have
02:59:03.320
a faith that something is looking out for them and has their ultimate best interest at heart
02:59:11.080
and everything's going to be okay i do envy those of faith and i've gone through periods of having
02:59:16.200
that kind of faith i've also had periods where i'm like i'm kind of convinced uh i'm kind of
02:59:21.400
convinced the opposite you know i'm trying to say so i don't have that peace and tranquility that you
02:59:26.200
guys have but the people who do i'm sure many of your audience does i think it's a wonderful thing
02:59:30.760
i'm not anti the stuff i was saying about the bible earlier was not anti-christianity even anti-bible in
02:59:35.880
in fact i gave it that bible passage matthew 7 6 which by the way what does seven times six equal
02:59:42.440
i'm gonna imagine 42 but i'm bad at math matthew 7 6 cast not you pearls before swine
02:59:49.720
there's some good stuff in the bible and just the idea of faith i think probably someone's
02:59:54.920
going to lead a much better life if they have faith because life will test you things will happen
02:59:59.560
and those who can just maintain the faith and it's called faith for a reason it's faith it's not
03:00:05.000
necessarily logical it's not necessarily based on immediate evidence but broadly if a man of faith
03:00:14.440
leads a happier life and what is a life more happy than one without worries right if a life of faith
03:00:19.960
can can help you with that i think it's a wonderful thing and maybe one day i'll come back to faith
03:00:23.800
fellows but i've just seen and discovered too many things that shook me to the depths of my miserable
03:00:30.200
soul i agree listen man i feel you the truth we got a guy uh well well let's wrap it here but uh one of
03:00:36.920
our favorite uh guests on this show he's been on man close to 30 times be back on friday people
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with the genesis series uh his show is called faith by reason and uh i'm i've learned a lot from him and
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the reason why my faith was never strong when i was going to church or listening to just other
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christian people is because they're like just believe it shut the fuck up believe it and i'm
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like i don't can't and you got to show me and you know conspiracy theorists are very much that way
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but uh when there is some reason applied to this uh for for me i've seen enough and it makes sense
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but yeah everyone has their own journey and listen man there has to be people like you really like
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you know you're telling me that that you found the codex cyanatica in in 1844 and there's no trace
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before it but this thing is over 4 000 years old you got to show me and yeah i'd like to see it too
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they have to show us we have to figure it out but uh yeah i don't i mean i i'm glad you're around
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we all got here because we're pursuing the truth and and i think even the bible you know in the bible
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it says that jesus christ is the way the truth and the life and i don't think that's like
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some you know profound euphemism there seems to be some direct pipeline it is truth and then
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eventually god and everybody's journey is a little bit different um but i think as long as you're doing
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that and and look you're saying that faith is this hi i'm darren marler host of the weird darkness
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spreaker.com that's s-p-r-e-a-k-e-r.com you know it's a component that um it's necessary in some ways
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and i think the way in which it's it's necessary is let's just say like we'll use the analogy of a
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firmament there's a firmament then you drive you you get in a boat you go to the edge and you get to
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this place where you're touching this wall and you can't go any further and it's like okay you've just
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gotten a lot of information but beyond that wall there's still questions but whatever this realm is
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is designed in such a way that you as a human being cannot gain access to whatever information is beyond
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that wall so i think that faith comes into play when we i don't know it's almost like you get to a place
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where like i've got enough answers to know that what i'm looking at is real but i know i don't understand
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the nature of what i'm looking at and and that's kind of where the the faith comes in i think because
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it's uh you're not dealing with a full deck yeah and i don't think it's possible to do with a full
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deck i i think we pursue these things we pursue gnosis and we can get pretty damn far i i i do
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believe that but i think we can only get so far in this realm in this form in this state and in this
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time and then outside of that everything requires faith well i have to say i'm pleasantly surprised by
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both of you because i only heard of you through human vibrations appearance here and i get this message
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from the nephilim death squad and i'm thinking to myself what am i getting myself in for here
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it turns out you don't have death squad vibes can i ask you before i know we have to start wrapping
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this up where'd the name nephilim death squad come from like what uh i i allow david to do all of our
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branding so for bohemian grove we had uh the vip members had cloaks with little nds logos on the
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side pretty much anything you see here david brainstorms it that was like that's a cool name
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and then i'm the graphic designer i'm like let me design this and make this aesthetic look this way
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and it just kind of it felt right so we just we ran with it yeah not not a lot of uh deep thinking
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there i mean you know a lot of the the nephilim shit as we coin it um i think is just a way of
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saying remember earlier when we talked about it john when you look at these things it's like this
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this tentacled octopus it stretches into everything um the nephilim feel like that so if you take the
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enoch idea then some of these corporeal entities or non-corporeal entities that seem to fuck with us
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constantly are actually deceased what were once physical beings but i think that much of if not
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all of the shit that plagues us has much to do with um the falling away of these elohim these spiritual
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beings that were created uh don't say that rat laban uh uh these spiritual beings that were
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created uh by god and then a third of them rebel against god and i i honestly believe that they are
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these various pantheons that we get you know you can you can track like zeus to hadad to ancient
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sumer whatever the hell ancient sumer even means after this episode i don't know uh believe it or not
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what i've got a tab on my wiki on my um firefox here about sumer and i was going to go off a massive
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tangent on sumer and the stories obviously we don't have time but before we do wrap it up for your
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viewers who might be interested for your audience who might be interested because most people listen
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to podcasts they watch streams this is a form of entertainment or edutainment and they're not too
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worried about following the breadcrumbs but for anybody who might be this is a good way for me to just
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to wrap up what i'm trying to present here on the screen is my little schematic for the library of
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alexandria now most people have heard of the library of alexandria the basic story is thousands
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of years ago there was this great library and it was basically the repository of human knowledge
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up to that point in time people from around the world had written things onto papyrus and it had been
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made its way to the library so the great learned men and the great scholars would come to this
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library they would consume the information that would contribute this was the one place in the
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world that had all the info and then sadly you wouldn't believe it fell as it burnt down burnt to
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the ground all gone all was lost great shame hundreds maybe thousands of years of human progress was
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lost that's the official story of the library of alexandria as told by carl sagan and as told by
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wikipedia to this day so i said to you guys earlier if you pick any story of history any character any
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event i think you'll you'll just find the wireframe measures i call it you just might be able to go
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back further than a couple hundred years so on the screen is my schematic for when i looked into the
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library of alexandria basically on the right hand side you've got the normie he's got his coffee he's in
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front of his computer and what's he reading or hearing probably wikipedia or carl sagan so i looked
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into those sources what are wikipedia sources what are carl sagan sources both of them their main source
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was a guy called edward gibbon who wrote a book in the late 1700s that was supposedly a translation
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from haverback so i went and got a copy of haverback that was from the early 1700s
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haverback supposedly translated from erosius so this story of a great library that burnt down
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i'm trying to find out where's that story come from you hear it from carl sagan here from wikipedia
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where'd they get it edward gibbon where'd he get it haverback so i went and read haverback
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haverback was translating erosius supposedly from 400 a couple of problems if you read erosius's work
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it doesn't mention a large library that's your first problem the second problem is what is he
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translating from doesn't say we don't know so in other words it doesn't okay it takes time i will
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confess it takes a lot of time that people say they don't have but it doesn't take a great amount of
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creativity or genius you don't have to be an academic or a scholar you just have to be able to
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read and take notes and think which i think most people are capable of that and you don't have to go
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back too far through the sources to realize hold on this is bull crap sagan cites gibbon wikipedia
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cites gibbon gibbon cites haverback haverback cites erosius you read erosius there's no mention of a
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great library none do you see the problem no i don't expect it john can i just interject i mean
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what it does is it says um hey look this is how long human beings have been around and we're like
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okay cool where's all the writings and all the history and it's like all of it was destroyed in
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this big fire in the library and then we go okay well that's what exactly and that's why i wanted to
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look into the library of alexandria this wasn't the first thing i looked at i looked at
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uh the first guy of the first historian according to history modern history is a guy called herodotus
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who was he's called the grandfather of history he was the first dude to write stories down
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in on parchment or on paper that's how history became a thing thanks so i started off with people
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like herodotus and then somewhere along the line someone said to me oh what if the sources were lost
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because of the library of alexandria and i was like okay great question i'm gonna look into that and
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that's how i came up with this so this is what i spoke about on the high side chats and even though
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most of my work on johnlabond.com most of the written work is only for the people who support
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it financially this particular page all of my research all of my documentation for the library
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of alexandria that's publicly available so i'll send you a link to that page and if you want to put
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that in your show notes again i know most people when they listen to this stuff they watch it they're not
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interested in following the breadcrumbs but for those few who are this is a breadcrumb that's worth
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following because either you're going to debunk me and i'm only 37 years old don't let me spend the
03:10:26.440
next 30 years saying things that are not true i mean well and this is the truth to me but maybe
03:10:31.400
i'm wrong come and debunk me or more likely you'll find out that what i'm saying is true and 99 of the
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truth tellers out there who are still going on about ancient history they're selling you lies and
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nonsense and i'm the one that's here to help you to stop believing them this is the work that i'm
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doing and i'm very proud of it and i want to thank both of you for having me on the show what we're
03:10:50.680
going to have to do if you'll do me the honor is come on and be guests on conversations where i swear
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my friends i will ask you questions and shut up because i've done a lot of the speaking today but
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i was the guest i should be allowed to talk a lot but if you come and be guests on my show on
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conversations i would love to hear more of your story and we didn't get time today but i want to
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hear more about this brohemian growth which sounds pretty cool so we'll have to organize something
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well let me tell you john we rarely talk to anybody for uh for three hours it's not necessarily
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the guest's fault it's mostly because we're not that interesting and can't convert carry a
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conversation for three hours but we did it here and so i gotta ask you john will you will you come
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back one day if i'm invited i'll be here and i have to make a confession right at the end i didn't
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even know this was happening today i thought this was tomorrow thank heavens one of you sent me the
03:11:38.120
email an hour before the show it said oh here's the link to stream yard yeah for whatever time it
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was um nine or ten o'clock your time and i was like no today's tuesday though so then i went and
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checked the because you guys had a scheduling form i went and checked it it said wednesday because i was
03:11:53.800
logged in through my vpn that had me in australia which for this time is tomorrow for them so i had you
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guys booked down on my little schedule for tomorrow so whichever one of you it was dave or tops who sent
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that email you made the show happen today if you hadn't done that who knows what i would have
03:12:09.080
been doing this afternoon so you guys are professionals thank you very much i have to say
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this is a great conversation uh it's a a genuine pleasure uh getting to talk to you and uh i really
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we're both very grateful for you carving out some time even if it is a little impromptu and you thought
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it was going to happen tomorrow uh carving out some time to to spend with us and unpack some of these
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ideas and and what's clear is uh just given this conversation in your body of work there's a lot more
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to be explored and uh so i look forward to any future conversations we'd be honored to come on
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your show i'd love that uh so so consider it done we'll we'll set it up well it is your show so i'll
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give you the final thoughts i'll just say my last bit thank you to both of you thank you to your audience
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to the thousand plus people on your patreon who support you this is independent content and i know
03:12:52.440
as well as anybody independent stuff can only happen because some people support it we're not cnn
03:12:57.080
we're not fox news we're not washington post we don't have millions or tens or hundreds of millions
03:13:01.880
of dollars backing us from god knows where who's behind these mainstream people i don't even know
03:13:06.120
but independent stuff only happens because people support it so a big thanks to all of
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your supporters and i'm going to be one as well i'm going to join your patreon i'm going to go and
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listen to your full interview with owen benjamin i've been looking for someone new to listen to
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and i think i found them here at the nephilim death squad i still don't know about that name
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but i can get past that you guys seem really cool really fun and thank you both for your time and
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i hope you guys have a great day and to all your audience thanks again for giving me the time
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and if you want to follow those breadcrumbs check out the show notes because the rabbit hole goes
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deep my friends john the bond from plovdiv thank you guys very much i'm going to shut up now unless
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you wrap up the show thank you john listen you you you're you're better at this than us i don't know
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what else to say guys don't forget to obey submit comply we'll see you next time this was a banger
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peace out the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room it is
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constantly telling us what to believe is real if you can persuade them that what they see with their
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eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger