On this episode of the Nedealim Death Squad, we have special guest Luke Madrid on the show to talk about the Raylian Cult and what it's like to be a member of the group. We discuss the cult, its origins, and how it came about.
00:03:57.540So I skimmed through it and I'm like, all right, like this is this is very interesting stuff for the show.
00:04:03.260I had watched a Netflix documentary and I know you told me to watch another documentary,
00:04:07.080but I just I didn't have time to go check it out.
00:04:09.320And the Netflix documentary painted these people in poor light, if to say the least.
00:04:16.340So I figured not I was only peripherally aware of Raylians or the Raylian cult because of the Kanye tweet.
00:04:23.420And maybe we should bring the symbol up here just to show people this was actually the the last thing that he tweeted before he got suspended, I believe.
00:08:33.800I'm just going to take that as gospel and go ahead and spread it.
00:08:36.180And so if that is true at all, then those things in conjunction, yeah, they start to paint that picture.
00:08:42.400Also worth mentioning, around the time that we were heavily speculating whether or not Kanye was cloned, we had Jamie Foxx, who was also going through this kind of weird, you know, maybe he was vaccine injured, something like that.
00:08:58.880People started to speculate that the real Jamie Foxx actually died in the hospital and that he was cloned.
00:09:05.100And what ends up happening is at the same time, he stars in a film called They Clone Tyrone, where he himself, his character, plus a plethora of other characters in the film all have clones in these underground facilities.
00:09:17.360So, yeah, I mean, you certainly can't dismiss people for speculating on the clone because we just got whacked with it.
00:09:25.200Yeah, I have never really been too big into the clone thing, and I thought that this would be a good place for me to dive into it.
00:09:34.140There's that movie, Us, where, like, the government is keeping all of these clones underground and for what clandestine purpose we can only know.
00:09:41.000Like, who was actually president, like, those last few months?
00:10:04.340I mean, recently Donald Trump is proposing some kind of, like, legislation for the government to support IVF.
00:10:10.260And I've been, like, all over this thing.
00:10:13.600IVF, I think, is, I think it could be, it's akin to cloning, where they have, like, the genetic material of, you know, the mother and the father, and they actually have the egg, and most of the time it's a fertilized egg.
00:10:26.000So, if they're going to pay for your IVF treatments, who's going to pay for the storage?
00:10:33.620So, now they're just owning these, like, fully fertilized human beings.
00:10:38.500At what point did they just go, we're going to do whatever we want with them, or do a little switcheroo, you know?
00:10:45.140It's riding that line where, can you make people into products?
00:10:49.040Can you make somebody's DNA intellectual property?
00:10:53.060We know that there's some precedent for that with Monsanto, turning their genetics into intellectual property.
00:11:00.280So, if some of their corn blows into your corn, now they own your corn.
00:11:04.260You know, that whole IVF cloning facilities, things of that nature, seems like a really great solution for the elites who occasionally get popped in this kind of human trafficking scandal or this baby farming scandal.
00:11:20.900So, it brings to mind this character called John of God, who ran a, I guess, a nonprofit organization for battered women, I believe it was.
00:11:30.680And he was blowing up because he was a regular on Oprah's show, and she had a tie-in to his organization.
00:12:03.240And, man, what a much better operation from their perspective if you don't have to have, like, the women in there, and they're crying, and, you know, you got to feed them and stuff, and they're nagging and complaining.
00:12:15.100If you could just get rid of that and have a bunch of test tube babies cut out the woman and then just start, you know, fertilizing eggs in a lab somewhere, that's, you know, a much more – as far as streamlining an operation goes, I would call that streamlining.
00:12:28.700Okay, I'm going to wildly speculate here.
00:12:30.960Before we get into any of the railing and stuff, let's talk about Elon Musk.
00:12:35.240Oh, that's such a deep rabbit hole, though.
00:12:37.340You just opened it up, you know, like –
00:12:39.800I'm going to go down the whole rabbit today, okay?
00:14:19.660Every time I feel like if the kid's out, you know, he's out playing or he's over a babysitter's house, I go, you're trying to fucking enter into a contract?
00:14:27.520And that's how we – yeah, so, I mean, you know, maybe there is some room for romance in Elon's life if he's using that language.
00:16:14.960Well, because you're asking Ultron, you know, essentially something about – or maybe better – you're asking Vision if there's something wrong with Tony Stark, you know.
00:16:22.660By the way, Tony Stark combats his own version of population control, right, in the form of Thanos doing the snap, killing half the population, you know, bringing balance.
00:16:36.480And Tony Stark is the guy to ultimately combat that, also based off of Elon Musk's character.
00:16:42.300Or at least that's what they said they modeled Tony Stark after, which doesn't make any sense if you look at him because he's charismatic and entertaining and not strange at all, whereas Elon Musk is a fucking bizarre character.
00:16:52.040But, Luke, what – I mean, what the hell – let's start with what is – because I want to know, what is Relianism?
00:16:59.620Well, I think it's interesting that you brought up – like, I have to pull together a few threads.
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00:18:46.460You'll get a documentary on either Netflix or Vice or something like that.
00:18:49.780One of them, at least one of them is going to play damage control.
00:18:52.380We saw that with the Epstein documentary on Netflix where they basically said Epstein is an evil mastermind and made you kind of feel like maybe Ghislaine Maxwell was a not-so-willing participant in all of this.
00:19:04.160When clearly, given her father and Mossad ties, that's not the case.
00:19:08.060But the question was, what in the hell is Railianism?
00:19:12.580Because I don't know even a little bit.
00:35:37.360So how the hell did he, why, like, where does, where does this, and I know you're going to answer it, but I just want to express where my mind is right now.
00:38:55.6402035, the end goal of the whole cult, because you always have to have an endgame to accelerate what you're doing, to get people to do crazy stuff.
00:39:03.940Their endgame is we need to have an embassy, a sex-friendly, swanky, you know, tiger furs on the ground place where the Elohim can land their UFO spaceships and establish geniocrity on the Earth and basically put us under their benevolent dictatorship where we can all hump and—
00:39:27.940Okay, so he's admitting, then, that he interprets these aliens as Elohim.
00:42:15.680And all of religion is a misinterpretation of the facts that the Elohim are genetic artists that create life and seed different planets and do different experiments, essentially.
00:42:52.140But he's supposedly a dude who was in the military, and he was retrieving an egg, some sort of egg craft or egg, I don't know, whatever, relic from a mountainscape.
00:43:04.660And what ends up happening is another guy releases very similar footage of egg retrieval out of another landscape.
00:43:12.040But he's got a story to tell on 4chan.
00:43:26.460And when it communicated with them, among many other things, it told them that we were created by the greys to essentially mine gold.
00:43:37.580So there's your Anunnaki narrative, right?
00:43:39.920We were augmented from early hominid to be able to, you know, be more effective at mining gold for whatever the hell their dwindling atmosphere or some shit on Nabooru.
00:43:53.260And then these tall nords, which is what the entity that woke up from stasis was, intervened, elevated us even further to create modern day human beings, and then are now trying to liberate us from, you know, the evil baddies who created us.
00:44:09.500So it's just like, it's fucking, these things, they all, they don't, they're not exactly the same thing, but they rhyme, like, a lot.
00:44:19.500I don't even know where to start with that because, you know, we make fun of a lot of this stuff, but we also lean into, like, where's the truth in it on the whole rabbit?
00:44:28.840And this is something that we've been circling and will continue to circle because either, like, 50% of that is true, or they've been working for, like, 100 years to make us think it is.
00:44:42.840Are you familiar with 1940s, like, pop science fiction author Richard Shaver or the Shaver Mysteries at all?
00:44:56.140So, long story short, this guy in the 40s, he wets the bed one night and says that he was visited by this swamp witch who told him the truth that, essentially, there were some tall Nordics that used to exist.
00:45:11.520They're tall, and they're tall, and they're, like, I don't know if you're familiar with, like, like, they got these big, giant, sexy women, right?
00:45:42.900The problem is, at some point, though, our son became toxic and anti-life.
00:45:48.260And so the big Snoo Snoo people, they left.
00:45:51.720But they left some people behind, and those people, they live underground, hiding from the sun, and they're, like, attached themselves to the energy machines, which they're basically Coomer monsters.
00:46:03.140They only use the highly advanced technology to, like, watch porn and whack off incessantly.
00:46:09.220And it's, like, warped their brain, right?
00:46:22.400So, you know, there's a huge narrative that says that the Nephilim, right, the descendants of fallen angels and human women, were predominantly wiped out by the flood.
00:46:33.420But in the Bible, it says they were on the earth during the days of Noah and after.
00:46:38.240And there are all these stories about, you know, gigantic underground facilities with – and it didn't have to be a facility.
00:49:00.160So, just to put that out there, I know there's probably some of your listeners like, oh, he's one of those, he's one of those Baphomet Satan people.
00:49:14.480Long story short, all the occultists in the world, they heard what Richard Shaver had to say, and they're like, okay, that guy's nuts.
00:49:19.240But, he's right, and he's right in the sense that he's correct, but in a metaphorical way, the Darrow and the Snoo Snoo people, those are all real, but they're spiritual beings, and they exist in the astral, right?
00:49:32.680And so, there's a whole subsect of people that take validity in his story, but they make it spiritual.
00:49:39.500So, okay, so where are we going with all this?
00:49:42.820Do you ever ask the question, like, why not both?
00:49:54.920If human beings can remote view and astral project, you know, you have a spiritual form that leaves your physical form, then maybe there is some veracity to the idea that some of them are still physical and can probably do some spiritual stuff, too.
00:50:08.800And some of them are dead, have been killed, and, you know, still, the Book of Enoch basically says that the Nephilim, these giants, when they die, they become demons.
00:50:17.540And they're trapped here in this realm.
00:50:19.100They can't ascend in any meaningful way.
00:50:20.880And so, they can only interact with us in a parallel world.
00:50:24.920But if the Bible is also correct about they were on those days of Noah and also after, then that suggests that they're still here in a physical form, too.
00:50:33.540So, it probably just varies from entity to entity.
00:50:36.180So, yeah, what I'm getting at is there are some spiritualists or occultists or whatever that do subscribe to that idea that these evil Coomer aliens from the Richard Shaver universe or these Elohim, you know, from the Rayliism cult, they actually are fallen spiritual beings that are non-physical but can, you know, become physical to some extent.
00:51:00.620What made Richard Shaver's story so popular in the 40s was that people were having UFO experiences.
00:51:18.800They were coming from inside the Earth.
00:51:20.660And I don't know, but if your listeners are on the same page as me, if you, like, the more disclosure I listen to and watch, those damn UFOs are in the Earth.
00:54:09.060And if you listen to what Alistair Crowley says, the Book of the Law was delivered by a dead Egyptian priest who had attained, like, the ultimate spiritual attainment,
00:54:20.640which is like in Star Wars, you become a part of the living force, you become a force ghost, you can go to heaven, you can come back to Earth, you can deliver messages, all that stuff.
00:54:28.240So then, fast forward, you get to, like, 1947, you're the end of his life.
00:54:35.020It's like, the year Alistair Crowley dies, like, the CIA gets started, the Roswell crash happens, and then you go and you look back in Alistair Crowley's history,
00:54:42.300he's the first guy to sketch a gray alien, more or less.
00:54:45.860And he supposedly was conjuring these guys through what was called the amelantra working.
00:54:51.060Not super-duper satanic for the people who just believe everything Alistair Crowley does is evil.
00:54:57.540His whole point was he was trying to get spiritual teachers to come to Earth.
00:55:29.300Yeah, it's one of my favorite things lately.
00:55:32.300And it's all part of, like, this big deception, in my opinion, where specifically the nature of the deception is about who created us and why.
00:55:41.080And I think it's interesting that if you look into all these different, like, we were talking yesterday about Andre, what's his name?
00:56:23.260These things, the Nine, they have one consistent message.
00:56:27.740It is, they are concerned about us, technology, and the state of the planet.
00:56:35.260And so they hope to intercede on behalf of, you know, our better interests so that we don't destroy it and ourselves.
00:56:41.460Also, spiritual ascension, to take our place among their rankings, essentially.
00:56:46.900Now, this is the same narrative that comes from the Galactic Federation of Light.
00:56:51.400We are a galactic body of entities who are concerned with humanity's technological developments and the state of the planet.
00:56:59.560We don't want you to destroy yourselves.
00:57:00.980Also, we want you to ascend and take your place among us.
00:57:04.320Now, we have this lady on TikTok, who, by the way, Top, I looked at it this morning, and she released all the transcripts.
00:57:13.240So there's a lady on TikTok for the past 20 years who has been communicating with something that identifies itself as Seven.
00:57:20.500And it says that it's part of a galactic kind of federation of entities that keep trying to intercede on behalf of humanity so that we don't destroy ourselves in the nuclear, you know, destruction.
00:57:51.600A prophetic warning to humanity about technology, what we're doing to the planet, and how to ascend.
00:57:58.360It's the same shit over and over and over again.
00:58:01.000It is a remarkably consistent narrative across all of these very weird, disparate places, because that is what they told Rail, supposedly, on December 13th.
00:58:12.360They're like, yeah, once you guys dropped the nuke, it was like, now the race is on.
00:58:17.200You're either going to destroy yourselves with your technology, or you're going to usher in a bright new golden era.
00:58:22.120And that's why we need you to build the third temple.
00:58:29.280I mean, it's the same thing on repeat.
00:58:32.040And we just get it from a bunch of different perspectives.
00:58:35.180But earlier, you said either this is real or they've spent like 100 years building up this lie.
00:58:40.860I lean towards the latter, because in order for me to believe that these things have our better interests at heart, I would then have to believe that the propaganda machine here in the West has our better interests at heart.
00:58:52.860That means NASA that was founded by Wernher von Braun, a Nazi scientist that we got in Operation Paperclip.
00:58:59.300That means Hollywood that just keeps cranking out all of these different things to kind of flesh out this alien narrative.
00:59:05.860I would have to believe those things have our interests or our better interests at heart.
00:59:11.340But I recognize that they are part of building this narrative.
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01:00:34.100All of those colorful things, those are the transcripts from her notebook, and I am going to dive into this shit at some point this week.
01:00:42.840All of the stuff we just talked about, plus the Ouija board, talking to Seven, all of that whole thing is just the movie Dark City by Alex Proyas.
01:00:58.980It came out around the same time as The Matrix, which is why nobody saw it.
01:01:01.960But it's basically all three Matrix movies condensed into a noir that took into account the long tradition of German Expressionism, Gnosticism, Occultism, and it has, like, some very inappropriate ideas all woven in there.
01:01:19.220I suggest anyone who's into this stuff, check it out.
01:01:36.440That's fascinating, because then that really does play into this idea that the Aryan race that they were so obsessed with, you know, rectifying or resurrecting.
01:01:49.860Yeah, because I think it was Blavatsky who talked about – it wasn't her saying it, but she got her hands on a text that had something to do with Atlantis and that the people that lived in Atlantis would have been Aryans and that they built – they had a tendency to build statues.
01:02:09.860That's the snooze new people we talked about.
01:02:13.080So they had a tendency to build statues that were actually proportionate to them, and that – I remember how she derived that, but then basically she goes on to say, and the statues are fucking huge, which means that the people were fucking huge.
01:02:25.300That's also – that's basically the, quote, fiction that the Nazis picked up from the book The Coming Race, and this was a popular science fiction trope around the turn of the century, and it was this idea that, like, if you took a boat far enough, you would eventually imperceptibly go over this curve and end up in the hollow earth where there was a race of giants that had stuff like radio, but they were, like, living very healthy, happy lives in the glow of the inner earth sun.
01:02:54.340And this is something that the Third Reich adopted, and they went looking for it, right?
01:03:00.380And there's this whole story about General Byrd went to go stop them and all that, but it's interesting.
01:03:09.700Well, that whole story, that's basically the inspiration for, like, all three Star Wars movies.
01:03:18.960See, all three Star Wars trilogies in the main Skywalker plot because, oh, man, I don't even know where to get started with that.
01:03:28.340It's hard, right, because this thing that we're – we talked about this on the last episode we did.
01:03:34.900This thing connects to so many other things, and it's very difficult to try to – in other words, the conversation we're having with you, Luke, is a continuation of a conversation we've been having for, like, a hundred and some odd episodes.
01:03:48.620And so it all connects, and it's both the – sort of the gift and the curse of the topic, right, which is, like, if you've been following along since the beginning of NDS, then you'll have some –
01:04:02.160But if you're watching this as a solo episode, it's going to be confusing.
01:04:48.520Germany had a bunch of secret societies back in the day, and they were all, like, very, like, hippy-dippy.
01:04:54.100There's actually a pretty big culture of, like, hippy New Age stuff in Germany, and when Aleister Crowley channeled the Book of the Law, supposedly from this dead Egyptian priest, right, he's like, this is the new thing.
01:05:05.460This is, like, the new Age of Aquarius thing that's going on because there's this idea of dispensationalism in the occult.
01:05:13.040Like, there's these different ages, right, which are ruled over by different energies and have different themes.
01:05:18.020And it's the same in Christianity, but, you know, occultism does it based on the procession of the equinoxes.
01:05:24.220We're moving into the Age of Aquarius.
01:05:25.960Long story short, Aleister Crowley went over to Germany.
01:05:30.380Basically, Anakin going to the Jedi, what is it, the Jedi Masters, and he's like, I'm the chosen one.
01:05:38.580And it's true because at that time, Theosophy and Helena Blavatsky, they had this idea that there would be this world teacher that would rise up and bring balance to the whole world.
01:05:48.940And Aleister Crowley's like, I'm that guy.
01:05:51.000And this is something that occultists are always wanting to claim.
01:05:53.160Like, no, I'm the world teacher, right?
01:05:54.520Well, Aleister Crowley channels the Book of the Law.
01:05:56.220He goes to Germany, and they're like, this is the best thing I've ever read, Aleister Crowley.
01:06:17.620Like, we believe in the ancient Egyptian priest that dropped the book on him and his wife.
01:06:20.760So we're going to take his book and tell him to fuck off.
01:06:22.640And so these Germans create the Brotherhood of Saturn, and it's dedicated to ushering in this new age of Aquarius, right?
01:06:31.080The Nazis actually hunt them down and, like, stop them, but they're connected, so they don't kill them, and then they just start up again after World War II.
01:09:22.640So it's this huge idea that the age of Aquarius as a zodiacal sign is ruled over by the planet Saturn, right?
01:09:30.920It was since replaced by Uranus, which is a planet of revolution, high technology.
01:09:35.840And so to the German brotherhood of Saturn, balancing these two energies was the burden of the era that we're moving into.
01:09:43.860And this is something that has probably been repeated by other secret societies.
01:09:48.340It's this idea that we have to overcome, like, how do I say this?
01:09:55.280So, like, in the zodiac, those two signs are on opposite sides of the sky.
01:09:59.520You have Aquarius on one side and you have Leo on the other.
01:10:02.500And Aquarius is ruled by Saturn and Leo is ruled by the sun.
01:10:07.260And this becomes, like, an occult yin-yang to these secret societies.
01:10:10.840There's this balancing of the Saturn energy and a balancing of the solar energy.
01:10:16.380And, in fact, I kind of think that's what's going on in the Star Wars sequels and why maybe people don't like them is because they were so indebted to this concept where Kylo Ren represents the Saturn energy and Rey, Ra, represents the sun energy.
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01:11:38.600In fact, almost all the science fiction we've ever watched since the Brotherhood of Saturn has been about this motif.
01:11:44.340How are we going to deal with this dark Saturnian technocratic dystopia and somehow make it so each person is their own like living God, their own solar consciousness?
01:11:56.640You know, you're talking about how this thing has been rehashed by all this scientific or science fiction community or science fiction media that we get fed.
01:12:04.440And Wernher von Braun was a science fiction writer and L. Ron Hubbard was a science fiction writer, quite the prolific science fiction writer before he was a cult leader.
01:12:17.860And then, you know, where we're sitting today, Elon Musk is literally named after the character from Wernher von Braun's science fiction book about a guy, you know, colonizing Mars named Elon Musk.
01:12:27.960And we kind of get into this thing now where we're championing a lot of previous sci-fi for its ability to almost prophesy, right?
01:12:40.060Star Wars or Star Trek is one of the huge ones when it comes to technology that we now have in the form of like, you know, holographic technology or touchscreen tablet technology, things like that.
01:12:50.740These were things that were first, I guess, dreamt up, you could say, in things like Star Trek.
01:12:58.340And now we're using them in real life.
01:13:00.380So, yeah, the science fiction community or the science fiction genre, I should say, is a weird one when it comes to these repetitive themes and the people who are into it, who are very influential on the world stage, whether it be in the past or the present.
01:13:14.920So, when you win an award, like Alex Proyas won a Saturn award, that's like the science fiction academies, like, trophy they give you, like, you win a Saturn award.
01:15:11.620And when you die, we can basically reprint you, you know?
01:15:15.180Like, Jesus, Muhammad, all of these great prophets from religion, they live on, like, some swanky Elohim planet with physical bodies doing leisure suit Larry type stuff.
01:15:26.200Yeah, this is where you get into the idea of, like, Nibiru or Planet X or something like that, this additional celestial body that is, you know, out of our realm of perception.
01:15:42.320But we just talked to Crow777 on the show, and he's showing us evidence for this binary star system that we might exist in and that there is a second sun on its way back into, you know, our sphere of influence.
01:15:55.720And the timing of everything is so strange.
01:15:59.300I mean, if he's right, and you can see at certain moments an extra sun that's kind of hidden behind our sun, you can catch glimpses of it.
01:16:09.100If that's true, and this thing is rolling back, like, the implications of that and the Nibiru thing and the, you know, whatever potentially inhabits Nibiru, you're talking about these, you know, fallen entities or whatever.
01:16:21.520Or that, it's just one school of thought that supports another school of thought, and it does start to make something pretty compelling.
01:16:31.220You know, the number seven and the planet Saturn are also a remarkably consistent theme in almost all of these religions.
01:16:39.640Like, okay, so remember how I mentioned in the German Brotherhood of Saturn how there's this big idea of pairing Saturn and the sun, almost like a yin-yang.
01:17:00.440And then the swastika or the whirling solar force, the sun energy in the middle.
01:17:07.520So it's like, where is he getting this?
01:17:09.760Like, that's remarkably consistent with like what the German Brotherhood of Saturn and Thelema and all this secret wisdom is like kind of gesturing towards.
01:17:20.560And, you know, both of those symbols, the swastika and the star of David, they appeared in Theosophy first.
01:17:26.020The Theosophists still use that symbol.
01:17:41.860And so that's like, imagine in Star Wars, they're like the Jedi Council Theosophy.
01:17:47.620Well, it was an offshoot of Theosophy, which started Arianism, which was the idea that the German race was descended from these snoo-snoo frost giants that live in the inner earth.
01:17:56.780And that if only they could purge the DNA that makes them mudbloods, then they could be snoo-snoo and go to the center of the earth too.
01:18:05.080So that's interesting because if you look at modern day medical technology, we just had this big, you know, breakthrough with the mRNA vaccination, which people suspect is actually a form of like gene therapy, that it alters you on a DNA level.
01:18:43.420It goes to the concept of eugenics, right?
01:18:46.820Where it's like, oh, we can perfect the human race by like removing the bad DNA.
01:18:50.940And like we all consider the Nazis evil because they leaned so hard into it.
01:18:55.080Well, it's just interesting that here you have Claude, this like super hippy-dippy guy who's also essentially a eugenicist.
01:19:02.880He even has this little squad in his cult called Rails Girls.
01:19:07.500This is a bit like the flirty fish with the children of God, I think they were, where basically the idea is you got to get the hottest chicks in your cult.
01:19:16.180And you got to put them all in a group and make them suck your dick.
01:19:19.700But after that, you make them go out and like interview with Playboy and give lectures.
01:19:25.240And they're like, see, you could get in the cult with the Hot Rails Girls.
01:20:27.560That's why they were able to kind of get done what they needed to get done as far as getting people to trust them so that I guess they can murder them later on.
01:21:04.880And we've talked about that before, too, because you see that on Stranger Things where El is 11, you know, and she's this child with psychic powers that's bridging the gap between our realm and a different realm.
01:21:18.160So, yeah, that's something you see pop up a lot.
01:21:22.820You know, what you're telling us so far, it's almost a bummer the way that I'm processing it.
01:21:30.060And the bummer is in that, like, well, I don't fucking really disagree with too much here.
01:21:35.140Like I said, it always goes back to the nature of what these things actually are.
01:21:38.460But otherwise, this thing closely parallels the truth in very many ways.
01:21:55.620You'll tell somebody nine truths in order to sell them one fundamental lie after they trust you.
01:22:00.820And so in these narratives that keep popping up about, you know, these entities and what their whole purpose is and, you know, this creator shit, like a lot of it is the truth.
01:22:13.040But, you know, it's up to the individual to have enough discernment to figure out where the lie is.
01:22:18.820Gosh, yeah, it really makes you wonder where the truth is.
01:22:22.060If we could bring up Scientology just for a moment.
01:22:24.580L. Ron Hubbard, science fiction writer we mentioned earlier, I mean, he was probably an intelligence agent that was sent to infiltrate the American branch of Alistair Crowley's religion of Thelema to figure out, are these guys communists?
01:23:32.120But he, yeah, he's widely regarded as the father of modern day jet propulsions.
01:23:35.820So there's, like, there's JPL or whatever, Jet Propulsion Labs.
01:23:41.640I think that's specifically what he worked for.
01:23:44.160And then, yeah, this is the same guy that's in the desert with L. Ron Hubbard trying to finish, like, Alistair Crowley's Babylon workings, which is a different.
01:23:52.060There's the Amalantra, and then there's the Babylon workings.
01:23:54.040I'm pretty sure they're separate missions of his.
01:23:56.760And they're trying to summon into this entity or into this realm the moon child, or at least that's what I've colloquially heard.
01:24:03.060So Jack Parsons was a little nuts, right?
01:25:13.760Jack Parsons is a pseudonym, I believe.
01:25:16.580It's not his actual name, or whatever you would call it.
01:25:19.040Jack Whiteside Parsons, I think is his.
01:25:20.580Well, if it is his real name, somebody maybe modeled Howard Stark after Jack Parsons, and that Marvel connection just never goes to bed, dude.
01:25:34.280Like that, whatever the hell Marvel movies are, and the whole Marvel universe is, it is a cult, like, what would you call this?
01:25:45.100An occult representation of basically like the pantheon in so many ways.
01:25:52.560You know, because it's like within Marvel, you have, like, your own Nephilim.
01:25:57.240You have your own fallen angels, right?
01:26:01.940So there's Thor, there's Ares, there's a couple other characters, and there's some Nephilim characters like a Hercules is also in the Marvel realm.
01:26:13.400And then there are chimeric alterations to the DNA of human beings in the form of, like, a Spider-Man, you know, or you mean it.
01:26:24.780And I think that Stan Lee, when he was a young man, he was in the military for sure, but there are rumors that he was part of this propaganda wing of the military.
01:26:37.680And so then he comes out and he creates Marvel and, you know, models Tony Stark and his own father to some degree after Jack Parsons.
01:26:47.680Like, yeah, the whole thing is an occult.
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01:28:38.300Okay, so digging into what you said, the creator, I'm not a big comic book Marvel guy.
01:28:43.900So, like, I'm coming in as an outsider.
01:28:45.740But I'm familiar with the material they're drawing from, I think.
01:28:49.260It was like propaganda against the Nazis in some way, right?
01:28:52.280Like, so certainly the Captain America arc was in a big way.
01:28:57.080And yeah, I mean, you would see this mirrored both in Marvel and in DC because they kind of used it to spur on, like, the war movement, to rally people, to get behind something.
01:29:07.980So Hitler was often depicted in both DC and Marvel.
01:30:04.400And they groomed him to be this world teacher.
01:30:07.500The things they said about him were – it's like his mind was empty and he's willing to do whatever he was told, which sounds like not who I would want to be my world teacher.
01:30:16.980That sounds like the perfect mind control subject.
01:32:22.940He essentially chooses to become the great world redeemer instead of the world conqueror.
01:32:28.600And so, when Hitler arrives in the East looking for all these magical artifacts with his Anunurba cult, right, because he goes and he looks for all these magical artifacts, anything he can get an edge in the war.
01:32:40.520Well, when Hitler arrives in the East, they're like, we were expecting you.
01:32:45.820We knew, you know, our prophecies prophesized that the Chakravartan would come, right?
01:41:56.100So in Moon Knight, they'll show you that entire thing where he's going through this process, going through the underworld on a ship, having his heart weighed against a feather, I believe.
01:42:05.940And, yeah, so once again, Marvel just fucking crushing.
01:42:19.860I just want to mention, too, that they talk about Saturn as if he's this great character that came and brought order in the golden age.
01:42:26.880But he's also, you know, the same character that it's prophesied his sons are going to overthrow him.
01:42:32.980And so he spends quite an amount of time, a large amount of time, eating his own offspring so that they don't come to fruition to overthrow him.
01:42:39.620And that the scythe and death are associated with Saturn and Kronos as well because time costs all, right?
01:42:49.680So you have, like, this – there's a real duality within this character that he could be seen as a savior figure on one hand but is an absolute madman that's associated with death and that eats his own children so that they don't overthrow him.
01:43:02.320So both of those ideas make sense if we both look back to ancient Egypt because the scythe is a symbol of harvest, right?
01:43:10.880And so it's a symbol of death but it's also a symbol of –
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01:44:38.920It's like if you trick death, like if you refuse to go to the underworld or whatever, like Osiris will come out as a fucking zombie and get you.
01:44:44.760Like he'll come out of the underworld and get you.
01:45:02.040And this throne, if you look at it, it's based on a cube.
01:45:08.400And if you were to draw it symbolically, and this is something that my fiance knows, like if you draw the symbol of Saturn, it's Osiris' throne.
01:48:52.620And he described the world as a black iron prison, essentially.
01:48:55.660And in some ways, it seems very much like the Gnostics believe that the world that we live in is a fallen, simulated world, right?
01:49:06.020And it's a creation of this God called the Demiurge, as you mentioned, Yaldabaoth.
01:49:12.400And it's kind of like a glib reinterpretation of what Plato said in the Timaeus.
01:49:16.660Like, Plato in the Timaeus is like, all right, so, like, God is this master builder.
01:49:21.200And he's, like, looking to the eternal realm, but he can't make it eternal.
01:49:25.040He can only base what we have on the eternal.
01:49:27.020So he's basically telling you, like, we live, we die, we get sick, because we're living in a shoddy simulation of the eternal that was created by essentially a good character.
01:49:39.240But the Gnostics come along, they're like, fuck that guy.
01:49:44.020Anyone who's anyone knows this world sucks.
01:49:46.460And the early Christians were Gnostics.
01:49:48.480And so the whole idea is that Christ came to, like, liberate us from this black iron prison, to, like, give us the good news, to, like, free us from this.
01:49:56.800Like, and then also, he kind of, like, rewrites the rules.
01:49:59.420Because, like, if the God of, if the Abrahamic God is, like, so closely related to Saturn, well, you can kind of see.
01:50:06.380I mean, even the crucifix itself is, like, an unfolded cube.
01:50:09.620Yeah, that actually brings me quite a bit of pause, because I see that, and I recognize that.
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01:55:52.180That's a fundamental difference in the messaging there.
01:55:55.280So just something that I wanted to point out because I see it a lot and it just hit me, you know, in a weird way.
01:56:01.760I think there's something to that, you know, maybe worth exploring more in the future.
01:56:04.820Well, that's a really deep philosophical cut that is more or less in the ballpark of the things we like to talk about on the whole rabbit.
01:56:13.920It's what you describe there is like very deep.
01:56:17.080I guess what I would say for this audience here is maybe a little more on the conspiracy side of things.
01:56:22.300Because depending on who you talk to, it seems pretty obvious to me that there are some secret societies where it's like, we're going to lean into the evil thing to make the good thing happen, which is like accelerationism, right?
01:56:34.720This is ideas like we're going to make so much evil happen.
01:56:37.460So the good thing will happen or whatever.
01:56:40.360Well, a lot of occultists or people in the spiritual community or whatever, including maybe, I don't know because it's secret, but the brotherhood of Saturn, it's not different from what you're saying about Jesus Christ.
01:56:55.840Because the idea is very much not to lean into your evil nature and not to become as evil.
01:57:02.180The idea is to bind the evil parts of the self to Christ and whether you believe Christ is inside of you or outside of you or like that's its own conversation.
01:57:15.860But it's the same thing in Buddhism where they show up and there's all these demons possessing the land, the bone demons, and they're like, well, we're going to use our Buddha powers to call up these demons and bind them to the Bodhidharma.
01:57:30.880And so in the occult traditions, it's the one of the points of one of the things that the hexagram, the symbol of Saturn is used for is for binding demons.
01:57:42.380And the whole idea is, is that you're not leaning into the evil or asking demons to do things for you or cohabitating with demons.
01:57:53.220You are subjecting demons to Christ and making them do like build the, build the temple, build the temple, build the temple, build the temple.
01:58:22.800But then there is the Crowley ism of like, do without wilt, shall be the hold of the law.
01:58:26.680Or, or there's another rendition of that.
01:58:29.580It's like, uh, uh, in Assassin's Creed, the creed that they lived by was like, nothing is true and everything is permitted or something like that.
01:58:37.960Like, so there is this kind of idea that it liberates.
01:58:43.240Like, uh, um, uh, you know, liberation and rebellion are cousins.
01:58:49.280And then that just is like the spirit of, of, of Satan.
01:58:52.680Um, but you know, this idea that through that mankind can be liberated instead of being, uh, stopped by moral quandary at every, it's like everything is permitted.
01:59:07.980I, this is one of, this is one of my things that I'm trying to offer to this universe of thought in the world as the whole rabbit, why I have Baphomet and why, like we talk about Alistair Crowley so much.
01:59:18.920Alistair Crowley was a deeply flawed person.
01:59:21.720And, uh, yeah, he liked, uh, Cecilia's farts or Celia's farts.
01:59:25.700I mean, that's like the better, that's like the parts we like about him.
01:59:28.780Like the parts we don't like about him.