On today's episode of the show, we have special guest Donnie Discerned on the show. Donnie is a writer, producer, and all-around excellent human being. He's been with us for a long time, and we've gotten to know him a lot over the years. In this episode, we talk about what he's been up to, and what he thinks about the current state of affairs in the world, and why he thinks it's time to wake up.
00:03:31.560Let everybody know before we get into this conversation where they can find your work because you do quite a bit of work, and there's a lot of fascinating information that you put out there.
00:04:06.380Just go to my highlights and just start reading because that's like all the important stuff, I think.
00:04:10.880I think if you just read my highlights, everything will make sense about what's really unfolding that virtually nobody seems to be talking about.
00:04:19.440And no one has really offered me a good challenge to what I'm saying specifically about the unfolding deception that I believe is playing out right now.
00:04:31.940But yeah, that's where you can find me.
00:04:35.480I think something useful for you here is maybe take your highlights, all of this stuff, put it into a Word file, feed it through AI, and see what you can get.
00:04:47.120Maybe you could give your page a little, you know, a nice little summary and get that blend to see what you're doing.
00:04:53.820Well, he does a great job of actually using like what you're supposed to use the highlights for.
00:04:58.600All I do is like algo boosting where like I'll say something that is not of value to anyone.
00:05:03.060And then I'll retweet my own thing and then I'll highlight it so that it kind of boosts the algorithm.
00:05:07.760And there's a way to, but if you go to my highlights, then it's literally like all I've highlighted is just the insane ramblings of a partially schizophrenic man on X.
00:05:15.200So not very useful, unlike yours, which you've actually used the function to catalog your work, which I'm a big fan of.
00:05:20.960So yeah, you click on that little highlights button and you get all those different breakdowns.
00:05:24.320That's a, that's a good way to do that.
00:05:25.760Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's, that's kind of how I've been using it just because like there's just a lot of information and I think the highlights is really cool.
00:05:33.760I don't think enough people know about highlights though, but yeah, that's, that's a huge one.
00:05:38.120I, you know, I honestly think it will get off this in a second, but, but X it's, it's a great platform for what it is.
00:05:44.160Um, it's my favorite platform because I think it is the closest to culture probably because he, you know, Elon's manufacturing culture.
00:05:51.420Um, but, uh, there's a lot of like, you know, sort of apparatus that's missing from the app.
00:05:57.020I would love to see like a catalog, uh, for, for live, I mean, not for live for, uh, for video content.
00:06:01.960You know, we can't even host our stuff there because it just, he doesn't have a, a system for that.
00:06:05.980But speaking of, of X, Donnie, uh, we were talking behind the scenes before we started the show and I don't know.
00:06:11.840I mean, we don't have to stay here, but I think it's a good launching pad for the conversation.
00:06:14.940And that is that the last time we spoke, we, we spoke quite a bit about this, um, this JQ, right?
00:06:20.920This idea that suddenly, um, there's an explosion of expert level Jew noticers and, and these people are doing a fair bit of blaming the Jews for every single thing that ails them.
00:06:32.340And since we've talked last time, that narrative has exploded in a massive way.
00:06:37.440And, uh, maybe we could start with this.
00:06:38.940It's something that I've been talking about and you might find it kind of fun.
00:06:42.620Um, on January 20th, we had reached such a critical mass in the narrative of Jew noticing, uh, that I said, if this is in fact manufactured,
00:06:54.080we might expect to see a big creator, a big influencer come out and push it a little bit further over the edge, right?
00:07:01.460Where it's like the average people on X will take the conversation so far.
00:07:05.500And then somebody influential will come and kick the ball even further down the field.
00:07:09.820And so what I said was it is time for Kanye West to reemerge.
00:07:14.840That's the exact tweet that I put out here on January 20th.
00:07:17.800And then lo and behold, uh, just before the super bowl happens, Kanye West, you know, takes Twitter by storm, takes X by storm once again, and starts just spewing all kinds of insane unhinged tweets.
00:07:29.540But among those insane unhinged tweets, which, you know, honestly are a lot of fun to me, uh, he starts to really hammer the Jew thing.
00:07:36.900And this all comes to a head when he takes out ad space on the super bowl, promotes his website, and then removes all other merchandise off of his website, except for a t-shirt with a swastika on it.
00:07:47.200And so, man, I mean, it's hard for me to look at that any other way, except for, I was able to call that move because this is manufactured.
00:07:57.460Do you have any thoughts on that, Donnie?
00:07:59.180Yeah, I would say that your intuition was, uh, spot on.
00:08:02.500Um, I think that this stuff like this can be misinterpreted even by a lot of people that, uh, follow my work and, you know, a lot of people, when they, when they say it's manufactured, they mean in like, it's, it's a, it's a man manufactured thing.
00:08:19.680Uh, you know, that it's, you know, that really it's the cabal manufacturing this.
00:08:25.520And, and again, this is the thing that I've been saying a lot recently about the truther movement, right?
00:08:32.400Which is fundamentally a new age movement.
00:08:34.600It always has been, um, is that they miss the bigger picture because they don't, they always trace everything back to some man, some group, some secret society.
00:08:46.680But they're not thinking about how God is actually the one who's sovereign, how he's the one who uses the hearts of human leaders, both righteous and wicked to accomplish his overarching purposes.
00:09:02.820And this is the reason why, you know, the new age truther movement, you know, they believe they're fighting, um, an evil force that's hiding secret knowledge from us and using the ignorance, uh, of humanity to enslave us.
00:09:55.780And the same way the Gnostics say that Yahweh is Satan.
00:09:59.620And this whole true new age truther deception is Satan, uh, gathering the nations, uh, preparing them for Armageddon where they will fight against, uh, you know, against Yahweh, right.
00:10:15.760Which is, will be, you know, Christ returning to establish his reign and the world will see it as, you know, the culmination of the Zionist new world order.
00:10:26.280And that's exactly why the new age, like Alice Bailey in her books, right in her book, raise an initiation says that every evil of the world can be traced back to the lying machinations of the Zionists.
00:11:45.840To discover the lost secrets of the ancient civilization of Shambhala, where the Aryan race had divine authority.
00:11:56.140Uh, and it's a counterfeit of God's kingdom.
00:11:59.400And that's exactly why the Nazis talked about the thousand year Reich, because it's a counterfeit of Christ's thousand year Reich.
00:12:07.180And that's also exactly why Hitler and his associates, you know, were working behind the scenes to subvert Christianity and, uh, with positive Christianity, which seek to de-Judaize the faith, removing its Jewish roots in favor of that ancient Aryan externalization of the hierarchy, new age spirit, which is, you know, pagan.
00:13:06.600Um, we, we've been talking about it a lot.
00:13:11.260How, uh, uh, Alice Bailey with the, along with the works of Blavatsky determined that 2025 was going to be the end of this like golden age, right?
00:13:20.420That was the expression that they used, even the golden age.
00:13:22.800And I believe they thought it was like the age of Aquarius, but it's just fascinating that Donald Trump is using that language right now.
00:13:28.700They're saying, uh, they tried to trace the Aryan race myth back to, in Tibet.
00:13:33.180So they believe that it came from Tibet.
00:13:51.480And the idea here is that, you know, uh, this, this, the Aryan myth that, you know, BBC talks about, it's really a, uh, it's really a, uh, a Gnostic, uh, a cult, uh, new age thing where, you know, they believe that the Aryan race was, you know, uh, on the top of the hierarchy over this, over, uh, over, you know, this, uh, the spiritual, the spiritual, uh, dimension.
00:14:17.640In, in, in, in the same way that, you know, Yahweh chose the Jews to reveal himself.
00:14:58.160And we see the same thing happening today.
00:15:00.260Just to clarify, because this episode started again with us having another contention about, uh, Jews or Israel on Twitter.
00:15:07.920And then you're like, we should talk about it.
00:15:09.660And I was like, all right, let's talk.
00:15:10.600So then, you know, we DMed, but, uh, just recently I was on Stu Peter's show and I, I guess you know who he is.
00:15:16.640Um, and towards the end of that, I gave him a very hard pushback on because it was like, I agree with a lot of the stuff that he's saying about what the current Jews are doing now.
00:16:35.840It was another culmination of the cycle of judgment on the tribes of Judah and Israel.
00:16:42.040And that's exactly what we see throughout history.
00:16:44.800Them being disobedient, them rebelling, God using the wicked nations to discipline and
00:16:51.300punish them to ultimately restore them.
00:16:54.280And right now we are in the time of the Gentiles, where the gospel is going out to the Gentiles.
00:17:00.060And when that reaches its full, like Romans 11 says, then we will see the final judgment,
00:17:06.380the final cycle of judgment and restoration.
00:17:08.660And I absolutely believe that God used Hitler in his, in his wickedness to, you know, to regather, you know, the nation, the national Israel, not in righteousness, but still in rebellion, still in apostasy.
00:17:33.080I want to get into the Kazarian theory as well.
00:17:34.980It's not, it's not necessarily Kazarian.
00:17:36.900I just don't think that even when we're talking about Judaism being the foundation of Christianity, I disagree with you wholeheartedly, depending on your definition of what Judaism is.
00:17:46.460Because what these people practice in Israel, well, the ones that aren't atheist, uh, sodomites, what they're practicing is a new form of Judaism.
00:17:54.160It's like a rabbinic Judaism that was created 500 to 200 years after the death of Christ.
00:17:59.340So this is a response to Christianity.
00:18:01.680So when Ben Shapiro walks around with his little hat talking about, um, Judeo-Christian values, absolutely not.
00:18:09.040That's why I'm very hard against this.
00:18:13.560This was a refutation of what Christ did.
00:18:17.480Now, if we're talking about the original Judaism, where we're talking about the Torah and the people that follow that, the descendants of Abraham and Moses, that's way different.
00:18:26.540Whatever Jesus was talking, they called him rabbi.
00:18:28.740That means teacher, but he certainly wasn't a rabbi in whatever temple these people were talking about.
00:20:49.040These are, you know, they're actually, well, he says that there were Italians and that, you know, there are cons and that Yahweh is the top archon.
00:20:57.100But this is exactly the deception, right?
00:21:11.780And so my main highlight here is that the Bible is seeking to differentiate between the Jews and then people that are claiming to be Jews, but are really of the synagogue of Satan.
00:21:21.840Yeah, I mean, listen, if you know the power of, of this lineage, and even if you're from it partially, wouldn't you be just tripping all over yourself to claim it?
00:21:31.540And it, what it looks like to me, the last, I don't know, hundred years of foreign policy that we've been, at least 80 years of foreign policy that we've been privy to, it looks like a, just a, it looks like a manufacturing of end times prophecy.
00:21:46.980Everything that we've been going through, like giving, giving them the state of Israel, going through this entire cleansing.
00:21:51.700But isn't that exactly what David, but isn't that exactly what Gnostic Antichrist, like David Icke say?
00:22:52.840The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is Yahweh.
00:22:55.720I disagree with you, but right now, like, I understand the definition, the biblical definition of what you're saying, but right now, that doesn't seem to be the case.
00:23:03.520It seems, what seems to be the case is that they have taken their Talmudic, the Babylon, sorry, the Talmudic Babylon, or however you say it, the Babylon of Talmud, right?
00:23:14.740And, uh, the, the Mishnah, and they have created their own new set of rules and laws afterward, and they are doing, I'm not exactly sure what they're doing, but I'm pretty clear, it's pretty clear to me that the New Testament is the new covenant.
00:23:29.760This is, the God that I worship is the one true God.
00:23:32.180This is the one that they were worshiping before all this stuff happened.
00:23:35.940I don't know who they're worshiping now, because I'm looking at the results of what they're producing.
00:23:40.800And what they produce is not the results, they're not, they're not bearing the fruit of worshiping the same God as me.
00:23:48.100So I don't know what they're doing over there.
00:23:50.560Well, that's the whole point, is that they're, they're, they're, they're apostate, they're, they're the harlot, right?
00:23:55.740That's the entire point that I'm making, is that the Jews are going through their cycle of following false gods, of rebelling against Yahweh, and that what God is doing is he's raising up the nations, right?
00:24:10.340Through the Gnostic deception, through the, the Dwa Kul teachings and all, you know, getting the world against who?
00:24:23.000For the purposes of discipline and purification in preparation for Christ's return and reign, which I think is a lot closer than a lot of people think.
00:24:32.760And, you know, we can get into timeline and we can get into the punishment periods of Judah and Israel.
00:24:40.180Donnie, let me ask you then, if, because the question is, like, I agree with you on so much stuff, but then the question is, whenever I'm seeing these things, and then I decide to speak about it, are we not, like, so we're supposed to watch these people run amok, we're supposed to watch these people rip down the idea of Christ is king.
00:24:58.880And I understand that that's being used as, like, you know, some people are using it as a battering ram, but I think that, I think that what bothers them the most is that we're saying it at all.
00:25:07.080I think it's like a knife in their side.
00:25:08.860And then if they can use it and say it's anti-Semitic, great.
00:25:11.540Whatever you can do to, to twist it around and get, just get people to stop saying it.
00:25:16.040And this seems like, this seems like what they're doing.
00:25:18.640So we're not supposed to oppose these people at all.
00:25:21.320We're just supposed to let them run, run all over us.
00:25:28.440There's a way that the world does things, but if you're of the world, you will follow the world.
00:25:33.500But if you're set apart from the world, you will walk in the spirit.
00:25:36.960And this is where the deception becomes a tool in God's sovereign plan to do what?
00:25:42.660To sift through the wheat and the chap.
00:25:45.940To sift, to separate the sheep and the goats.
00:25:48.580Those who've listened and those who've learned from his revealed word and those who have followed in their instincts, trusted in their wicked hearts, and have followed the world in doing things in their flawed way.
00:26:15.820You keep saying what they're doing, what they're doing, what they're doing, but you're not asking what God's doing.
00:26:20.540This is the whole reason truthers are missing the bigger picture about what's unfolding.
00:26:26.580Because the most that truthers can think about is what they're doing, what the elites are doing, what the cabal is doing, what Babylon is doing.
00:26:36.160They can't think outside of that paradigm.
00:27:11.560But so now the message that he came and brought us, we're supposed to allow these people, the ones that killed them, we're supposed to allow them to then...
00:29:17.060You either have fear of the world and worldly things and of the cabal and the elite and human plans, or you have fear of the Lord, which is a reverent fear that puts his sovereignty first.
00:29:31.120Let's look at Job, for example, right?
00:29:34.280What did Job say when he was afflicted with every worldly problem that anyone could have?
00:29:42.900He said, the Lord gives and the Lord takes away.
00:29:47.720He didn't say, Satan took this away from me.
00:30:55.480It's by acknowledging God's sovereignty and understanding that he is the one in control.
00:31:02.320And if you're pointing to the cabal as the manufacturers of human history, if you're pointing to some man or even Satan as the manufacturer of human events, you are giving him – you are giving Satan the power.
00:31:18.460And this is exactly what Satan is doing, right?
00:31:24.440He – Satan is very happy that the world believes that he's the one who's sovereign, that he's the one who controls these events.
00:33:11.900God is using the Jews not for the saints to cast blame on them, like Romans 11 says the Apostle Paul.
00:33:19.640Do not boast against the natural branches because you too can be cut off, right?
00:33:26.380The whole point is meant to – for us to self-reflect and see their rebellion as a mirror for our rebellion.
00:33:35.340God's justice on their rebellion, his wrath on their rebellion as a reflection, as a mirror for a warning for what happens to us when we rebel.
00:33:47.420And then his mercy, right, his mercy when even after being disciplined, even after rebelling as a mirror for God's mercy on us.
00:34:01.300That's the – it's not that they're – it's not because – it's not that, oh, they're chosen, they're more righteous, they're going to be saved.
00:34:10.540It means that they're chosen to reveal who God is.
00:34:14.980And this is exactly what's happening right now.
00:34:18.520This is exactly what's happening through their rebellion, through their heartening, through their spiritual blindness, like Romans 11 says, that it's temporary.
00:34:26.520God – it says God put a spirit of stupor in them, eyes that cannot see until the fullness, until the full inclusion of the Gentiles comes.
00:34:40.140We are in the age of the time of the Gentiles where the gospel goes out to the Gentiles.
00:35:15.100This is why trutherism is a deception.
00:35:19.760This is why trutherism is leading people into doing exactly what Adam and Eve did, into doing exactly what Israel did in the Old Testament when they rebelled.
00:36:02.260Look at the plagues in Zechariah 14, 12, given to the armies that surrounded Jerusalem, that besieged Jerusalem in the last days, right before Christ returns.
00:36:14.120It says that their eyes rots in their sockets.
00:36:35.980What kind of judgment do you think happens to the people who have let the church be subverted by the Schofield Bible and by Judeo-Christian values?
00:37:17.240Well, I mean, you said it's a Jewish deception.
00:37:19.040Tell me about how it's a Rothschild-funded Bible that subverted most of Christianity and how it created the myth that Jesus was a Jew, right?
00:37:35.660No, not necessarily, but it created an entire generation of pastors that prioritize Israel over America, wherever they are.
00:39:01.400What I'm going to tell you now is what they teach is what the church is right now.
00:39:05.520Because every Christian seminary that graduates from the colleges, in order to get a job in an Assemblies of God church, this is the curriculum that's being taught.
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00:41:46.540So, after the kingdom of Israel split, the southern kingdom Judah was where Jerusalem and the temple were, right, which are fundamental to the faith, fundamental to the biblical story, let's say.
00:41:58.540Over time, people from Judah and Benjamin and Levi, you know, these were the tribes who remained loyal to the temple in Jerusalem.
00:42:10.240So, being a Jew wasn't originally just a religion.
00:42:16.360It was an ethnic and tribal identity rooted in God's covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and specifically Judah, the royal line, right?
00:42:25.160Now, if you have a Bible, open it up to Genesis 49, verse 10.
00:42:30.820It says, the scepter shall not depart from Judah nor the ruler's staff from between his feet until Shiloh comes, right?
00:42:42.280God promised that the kingdom, the Messiah, and the rule over the nations would come through Judah, right?
00:42:48.860That means that the Messiah would be born a Jew from the tribe of Judah to fulfill the promise, right?
00:42:55.200So, Jesus fulfilled that prophecy because he was born in Bethlehem, the city of David, and he was born of the tribe of Judah, Matthew 1, Luke 3, right?
00:43:05.840He's called the lion of the tribe of Judah in Revelation chapter 5, verse 5.
00:43:11.840So, yes, Jesus is Jewish, and that's not incidental, right?
00:43:40.500Johnny, are you letting David tell you words?
00:43:44.120That's why I'm an expert in messing up words.
00:43:46.680Actually, wait, before you do that, Donnie, I would like to pose a question and just give me the floor for a second so I can get this out without any interruptions here.
00:43:55.620So, I recognize what you're saying, especially on X, and I think it's going to leave X soon.
00:44:01.260This, like, Jew noticing thing is manufactured, and I don't agree with going the same direction as everybody else where they're all just funneling into this.
00:44:07.860They're siloed into blaming the Jews' blanket for, you know, all of the world's ailments, and the buck stops there.
00:44:14.320And so I am a proponent of there is a much larger spiritual aspect to this entire debacle that we find ourselves in, and I also have a hard time attributing it to the Jews, right?
00:44:26.320Because just even in layman's, right, I'm kind of – this is above my pay grade.
00:44:30.180You guys are much more well-versed in the Bible than I am.
00:44:32.800However, when I go to, like, the corner store in the deli and there's a Jewish guy working in there, certainly he's not to blame for everything that ails the word – or ails the world, rather.
00:44:41.400So my question, Donnie, is when I go to Revelation 3-9, just to bring that up again, and they're talking about these – they will call themselves Jews but are not there of the synagogue of Satan.
00:44:50.080I see that as an attempt to differentiate, right, between the Jews and something else.
00:44:56.720My question to you, Donnie, is am I misinterpreting that?
00:45:02.480Revelation 2-9 and 3-9 is, like, the go-to passages for the anti-Jew people.
00:45:09.200And what's funny is most of the people that quote those passages, they don't know anything about the Bible.
00:45:14.580When you press them on, like, biblical things, they look at you like you have four heads.
00:45:19.120Like, if I ask them, okay, what does John chapter 4 verse 22 says, where it says, you worship what you do not know, we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
00:45:33.220They don't know what – they didn't even know that verse existed, right?
00:45:36.340And the whole point here is that, you know, the passages like this, which if you want to talk about them real quick, I gladly can.
00:45:44.840And, you know, in Revelations chapter 2-9 and 3-9, when it talks about, you know, the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews but are not and do lie, there's – you know, there's different ways that people interpret them.
00:48:56.180Truthers make the spiritual fight – they make a counterfeit.
00:49:00.300I'm not saying you're a truther, but I'm saying what truthers do is that they turn the real spiritual battle that we're called to in the Bible and turn it into the same battle that the New Age is fighting, right?
00:49:12.780That's a fight against the Jews and Yahweh.
00:49:32.920Because they will see his coming as the ultimate culmination of the Zionist New World Order.
00:49:41.280When Christ comes to reign from Jerusalem, right, and when all the nations have to make a yearly pilgrimage to Jerusalem to keep the Feast of Tabernacles,
00:49:50.340you know, what do you think all these truthers are going to be saying?
00:49:55.520They're going to be saying the same thing.
00:49:57.600All of these truthers are the same people who are going to be rebelling against Christ reigning from Jerusalem.
00:50:03.060And that's the setup for the little season where Satan is released to deceive the nations once more.
00:50:10.660What do you think Satan is going to be saying?
00:50:12.260I think the Zionist New World Order, he's going to be saying the Zionist, there's nothing new under the sun.
00:50:49.480And like the fact that I showed you this ascended master that this stuff comes from, that David Icke and all these truthers really get their teachings from, right?
00:51:03.260I'm showing you why it happens and how it's part of God's plan.
00:51:07.060You know, I don't see how you could see this any other way with all of this context because this is the critical piece that people miss is that these new age truthers are the real spiritual arm of Satan's agenda.
00:51:23.160And that it's ultimately not even Satan's ultimate plan.
00:51:28.580It's God using Satan, using the human authorities, the human leaders, and using the nations to fulfill his will.
00:51:39.420And nobody can seem to demonstrate that that's not the case.
00:51:48.980I mean, I sort of understand what you're saying.
00:51:53.940What I'm saying is that I don't think that the deception is – I don't think the deception is people looking correctly at Israel and saying that's not who they say they are.
00:52:15.780People coming against the Jews is just one piece of the bigger deception.
00:52:20.260I think what we need to draw – the line that we need to draw, the delineation, and it's going to be impossible to do it on Twitter because people have to go through these stages of grief, which is like a stage – the stages of grief that I went through where you go through like, oh, my God, they're doing all this stuff.
00:52:44.500I want you to listen to like people like April Ryan and all these New Age truthers who channel Ascended Masters and all these people and hear them talk about the same thing you talk about right now, that when you take the red pill, you almost get like an initial sickness, that like – not a sickness, but like you're angry, you're hurt, you're going through these five stages.
00:53:04.120And they say that that's part of the transformation process of ascension, right?
00:53:12.620The thing with the New Age movement and the New Agers is that it aligns so closely to the truth that when you hear it, but you want to burn it down completely.
00:53:22.580And I understand that proclivity, but there is a tremendous amount of truth in it because they've taken the word of God.
00:53:28.340They've taken the actual way we operate in this physical and spiritual realm, but they perverted it.
00:53:35.760They're missing this one important thing.
00:55:45.360And you're going to join the world unless – well, maybe not you, but most people are going to join the world in doing what?
00:55:53.240In fighting for – to preserve their earthly paradise, in clinging on to their lives, in clinging on to what they have here in this world.
00:56:02.280And in doing that, they are being deceived into fighting the wrong fight, and that's going to culminate in Revelation 19 when the world fights against Christ in his return.
00:56:13.760In their zealousness, in their paranoia, in their desire, in their self-righteousness, in their desire to rid the world of evil before the appointed time, they will be led into being the very armies that will fight against Christ and that God uses to discipline and purify Judah and Israel.
00:59:32.320When I'm looking at people perverting the religion, when I'm looking at them saying things and playing this like weird sleight of hand stuff where they're like, oh, you know, we have a Jordan Peterson on and he's going to teach you about Jesus Christ.
00:59:45.020And you ask him, do you believe in God?
01:00:08.840Okay, I'm pointing to the sovereign Lord, and I'm pointing to how he's using these people that you're talking about, how he's using them to accomplish his overarching purposes.
01:00:39.480Because their worldview is in conjunction with the New Age, and I'm not saying you're in conjunction with the New Age.
01:00:45.360I'm saying that the truther movement, the whole point of the truther movement is to fulfill the New Age awakening, that the cabal has been hiding our divinity from us, and that the Jews are the chosen people of this false god,
01:01:01.060and that we need to rebel, expose, and fight the Jews in order to liberate humanity from the matrix prison of the material world.
01:01:10.800That's what I'm saying, and that's where no one can seem to address that.
01:01:16.760They always have to point to this person or that group, right?
01:01:20.340But it's like you're missing so much, and whether you like it or not, you're leading people right into the arms of the New Age awakening deception.
01:01:32.680By telling people to submit—hold on.
01:01:35.140By telling people to fight the good fight the Apostle Paul talked about and not taking a preemptive role of judging the nations, which will be given to us, as Revelation 2 says, but only after the resurrection.
01:01:49.220Right now, it is the duty for us to judge those within the church, like the Apostle Paul said in 2 Corinthians.
01:03:17.560I think people really underestimate this awakening, this false awakening, and how big and mainstream it's becoming, right?
01:03:27.140I would say that Top and I actually agree with that.
01:03:29.320We've been saying for a while now that this conversation that's been taking place on Twitter or on other social media, predominantly X, was eventually going to leave the platform and enter the dinner table, for, I guess, lack of a better way of putting that.
01:03:44.180But yeah, I mean, everything else is downstream.
01:03:47.480So if this culture is really exploding on X, then it's only a matter of time until it's in your church.
01:03:52.620I agree with you, Donnie, and I understand what's happening, and it's out of our hands at this point.
01:03:58.180But the truth of the matter still is these things cannot coexist.
01:04:03.060The current Judaism, the modern-day Judaism, Babylonian Talmudic Judaism cannot coexist with whatever Christianity was supposed to be.
01:04:13.760And when I look at the church, it's garbage.
01:05:16.760Daniel 2 says that God is the one who raises up nations, not men.
01:05:21.020If anyone is telling you that that man raised up a nation and that God had nothing to do with it, they are of a lying spirit because it says God is the one who raises nations.
01:05:32.500God is the one who puts human authority where they are.
01:05:36.160So then, Donnie, how are we meant to—I think what's important here is to establish how are we meant to react to this.
01:05:42.960Yes, and this is the big—and this is the big picture thing.
01:06:01.880She is saying that what I'm saying is that we need to bow to Jews and do nothing, right?
01:06:09.080And then she continued to say that Yahweh is the real enemy and that the Jews are his chosen people and that anyone defending that are enemies of mankind.
01:06:21.180That's very, like, Gnostic, New Age-y.
01:08:30.860Because he is using this as a judgment against those who are already being steered by their hearts and not through the spirit.
01:08:40.640And this is exactly why the New Age is the spiritual arm of this deception, because it perfectly inverts biblical truth and makes Yahweh, makes the God of the Bible, the enemy, and it makes his plan a manufactured plan of the Illuminati.
01:10:47.540So this goes back to my question that I don't think I really got a satisfactory answer for, which is to say that if the Bible seeks to differentiate between those who call themselves Jews and who are not but are actually of the synagogue of Satan, is that an actual differentiation?
01:11:02.920Because I interpret it as a differentiation.
01:11:05.100And I go, well, if the Bible sees fit to differentiate, then I should as well, because there's so much variety among, you know, self-identified Jews.
01:11:14.060You know, we bumped into an atheist Zionist Jew the other day.
01:11:18.240I'm like, I don't even know what the fuck that is.
01:11:26.240So let me refine that question, and I'd like an answer from that.
01:11:30.320To the best of your abilities, Donnie, are we – is that a differentiation that's being made in 3.9, or am I wrong in my interpretation of it?
01:11:37.180Yeah, well, it's definitely not a blanket category of all Jews, right?
01:11:42.520Like Jesus isn't saying, oh, all Jews are the synagogue of Satan.
01:11:46.000That's how a lot of the truthers interpret it, but that's certainly not what he's saying.
01:11:50.020It seems like he's saying there will be those who claim to be.
01:12:57.820So the dry bones prophecy in Ezekiel 37 talks about the Jews being regathered from all the nations of the world back to their homeland, but not in righteousness, but in judgment, right?
01:13:10.240And that's the bones, and then the flesh appears, right?
01:13:13.480And then the spirit comes after, right?
01:13:16.160So that's what we're seeing right now.
01:13:23.580They're in the flesh, and then the spirit will come through their tribulation, through this coming global revolution against them.
01:13:34.120That's going to be what leads them to the spirit, right?
01:13:37.720And that's why I said earlier I believe Hitler was used by God, right, for judgment purposes and also for the purposes of their future redemption, of the redemption of the remnant.
01:13:48.420I think that is fair to say because without – you would have to say then God is in control – isn't in control of everything that happens on his creation, and I don't know that you could say that.
01:14:01.360Right, right, and that's the thing is like you have to acknowledge God's sovereign hand in everything, in every human – in all of human history.
01:14:11.660And this is why the truthers can't see what's really happening is because they're stopping at the human leaders who the Bible says are powerless, that their plans will come to naught, right?
01:14:23.820And this is where the misdirection is, is that people are so hyper-focused on human plans and human leaders.
01:14:31.180They're not seeing how God is working through all these things to bring about what he prophesied, and that's what – that's all I'm trying to do is trying to show people the big picture and not to get swept up in the world's panic.
01:14:45.880Proverbs 29, I think it's verse 25, it says, fear of man will prove to be a sneer, but whoever trusts in the Lord is kept safe.
01:14:54.880And this is the thing. All of these truthers, all of these people, all these red pill people, they are steeped in fear of man, fear of what man can do to them physically.
01:15:05.340That's why the Bible says, do not fear those who can harm the body, but fear the one who can kill both body and soul in hell, right?
01:15:12.380All of these passages are trying to show us something.
01:15:15.460It's trying to show us that the world is always going to be steeped in fear of man, and that's what the truther movement is.
01:15:22.140It's the fears and anxieties of man-made plans, man-made plots, and offering them a man-made prescription, right, that the multi-faith coalition of the nations to come together and say, you know what?
01:15:40.060We all have our differences, but you know what our common enemy is?
01:15:43.320The Jews, the Zionists, you know, and that mindset that God is going to judge that.
01:16:01.140When you really take a step back and see what's happening and see how God is using all of these pieces for his overarching purposes, you can see, wow, it is absolutely brilliant.
01:16:45.380So I don't know if God, I don't know if God knows every single thing that we're going to do before we do it.
01:16:52.380I think that he created us and he enjoys watching us do.
01:16:57.400But the question is, again, is there, no, my question is in between this, in between his plan of, you know, basically setting up the Jews to set up everybody else, which is a hilarious plan.
01:17:07.820And there's no, there's nowhere for us to also reach the people who are going to fall through the cracks because we're talking about billions of people.
01:17:15.280And I'm talking to the ones who will listen like, yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying.
01:17:23.300But, but we're not going to, don't form against them, but also resist them.
01:17:28.460There has to be some sort of gospel through the gospel.
01:17:32.000I mean, you can resist them in many ways, not just through the gospel, but like people who reject people who are, who don't even believe in God.
01:18:08.000No, we can look at it and say, wow, God's plan is unfolding exactly like, or we can fashion our whip and say, get that shit out of the temple because it does not belong here.
01:19:45.840The church is compromised in all sorts of ways, and that's why you wake people up to deception.
01:19:49.200But my thing is that's not what the truthers are saying to do.
01:19:52.940They're not saying to expose the wicked ones from among us.
01:19:56.700They're saying to go out into the world and expose what the world is doing, and that's why, because of worldly fear, because of fear of man, like Proverbs 25 says.
01:20:21.780No tend and to dominate, and we just give that up because, you know, well, prophecy says in the end, this is – how do you know for sure this is the end?
01:20:30.280How do you know that we haven't been here before, and this will be repeated again?
01:20:33.200Like, I don't – we don't know, but we're just going to give this up, like give up what was given to us.
01:20:37.640Well, we can get into – we can get into the calendrical prophetic timeline, the 6,000 years, the 150 years.
01:20:43.860Yeah, but people thought the same thing in 70 A.D. in Jerusalem.
01:20:56.540Look, before we go on, can I pose a question?
01:20:58.740When we're looking at Jesus Christ and he's flipping over the tables in the temples and he's chasing out the merchants and he's fashioning this whip.
01:22:11.580What I'm saying is the saints, the resurrected saints in the millennium, they're going to be those who set themselves apart from the world.
01:22:18.340They're going to be the ones that recognize that their home is not in this world, that we are sojourners in this fallen realm to do what?
01:22:27.000To assist in the proliferation of the gospel to the Gentiles until the culmination of thereof in which these entire events happen.
01:22:54.740I agree with you that the world is beautiful.
01:22:56.500God isn't coming to destroy the world, right?
01:22:59.300God isn't coming to just gather us up and take us into heaven and destroy the world like a lot of people think.
01:23:04.880No, God is bringing heaven to earth, but it's all about the appointed time.
01:23:11.100How many times in Jesus' ministry did the apostles ask him if he was going to reestablish the kingdom of Israel, if he was going to reestablish God's kingdom?
01:23:20.760And he said, that now is not the time.
01:24:22.780They freaking sent a trove of people and then removed them from my follower account just to mess with my algorithm for saying exactly what I'm saying now.
01:25:16.820I don't have as much of a biblical grounding as you guys, but I do recognize human psychology.
01:25:22.840And I do recognize that if you should mobilize and try to attack a thing, what happens is your movement, because there's so many moving pieces, becomes co-opted, becomes corrupted, and eventually is aimed in the entirely wrong direction.
01:25:44.360I don't know what you would say, Donnie, but if you asked me what you should do, what action you should take in these times...
01:25:51.640By the way, not having this extensive biblical background, I would say that the work is internal, that you can't hope to affect the outside without taking care of the sin that you carry inside.
01:26:25.700And they're not fighting the good spiritual battle of dying to self daily, of laying down our desires, of casting the flesh aside and walking in the spirit, which is the real battle, which is hard.
01:26:41.440That's a hard battle to, you know, to crucify the flesh daily.
01:26:47.380The new age movement has almost created a caricature of that.
01:26:53.720Well, in the new age movement, the equivalent to that would be like this fucking super gay, isolated, meditative process where you become some ascended master because you're no longer in the world.
01:27:03.540You're, you know, you're out of the world entirely to the extent where you fucking, you know, ascend past your mortal coil.
01:27:09.140This is why, this is why it's kind of disingenuous to be like, that sounds new agey.
01:27:12.840It was like, yeah, most of Christianity sounds new agey when you actually look at it in the correct manner, but it's just been subverted.
01:27:19.600So now I'm not allowed to use this word the same way.
01:27:21.500Like if I say Jew, now Jew means everything.
01:48:37.620Well, I'm saying that Christian nationalism would galvanize to like, let's say, the Trump administration or the beast system.
01:48:45.040And the harlot, I wouldn't know exactly what individual to identify it with.
01:48:50.220But it's like generations of sexual immorality and sort of just all of the corrosive behavior that culminated in like drag queen story hour and all that other shit.
01:49:02.340To me, that's representative of like this one system that we've been under.
01:49:09.500And now all of a sudden we're experiencing this pendulum swing in the opposite direction.
01:49:15.020And I expect that that new system will bear just as much extremism, probably more, because I think when it swings back, it's going to go a little bit further than the original position.
01:49:25.480But it's going to be of a different variety.
01:49:27.280And that different variety is going to be like, you know, conservatism, conservatism.
01:49:31.220And it's going to be a good place for people who think that Christian nationalism is a good idea.
01:49:38.320OK, so when we talk about the harlot, right, we have to get into the specifics.
01:49:42.940And this is and not against you or anything, but I see a lot of people that are kind of just like it's like, oh, it's this vague spiritualized thing.
01:49:51.600And it's like I think we need to get really down.
01:49:54.300We need to really get down to specifics to understand Bible prophecy, because if we're not getting the specifics, then we don't really know what's going on.
01:50:01.220Right. So, you know, if we interpret the Bible with the Bible, as I believe we should, you will see that the harlot of Babylon is apostate Jerusalem.
01:50:10.320Right. So, like, if you look at Revelation chapter 11, verse eight, which speaks of the death of the two witnesses.
01:50:15.420Right. It says, and I quote, and their body and their dead bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
01:50:27.140So obviously that great city is also where our Lord was crucified.
01:50:32.120Now, keep that keep that phrase in mind.
01:50:43.100Why is the great city where Jesus was crucified?
01:50:45.400Because Revelation chapter 11, verse eight says, and their dead bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
01:50:57.300So keep in mind that phrase, the great city.
01:51:00.300If we look at Revelation chapter 14, verse eight, it says, and there followed another angel in heaven saying Babylon is fallen, is fallen.
01:51:07.740That great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
01:51:14.300If we, if we read in Revelation chapter 17, verse 18, it says, and the woman, which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
01:51:23.120So we can see when it's speaking about Babylon or the harlot, the same phrase that the great city is also used.
01:51:30.920In chapter 11, the great city is identified as Jerusalem.
01:51:34.640And the great city is also used in chapters 14 and 17 when speaking about Babylon, right?
01:51:40.840So if we let the Bible interpret itself, we can't come to any other conclusion than that the harlot is of Babylon is apostate Jerusalem, which also makes sense because Jerusalem is the only city that God would call a harlot.
01:51:54.980Because it's the only city that God ever made a holy covenant with, and it's the only city that he tried to make his bride.
01:52:02.400And you see, the whole marital analogy is used throughout scripture, both with Jerusalem and Israel, as well as with the general body of believers who become part of Israel spiritually.
01:52:13.820And the body of believers, both Jew and Gentile, make up God's bride.
01:52:18.540And so there's really no other reason for God to call a city a harlot unless the city or the people of it betrayed a holy covenant with God.
01:52:27.640Again, only one nation that made a covenant with, which is Jerusalem and the nation of Israel, right?
01:52:33.440Harlotry is not a reference to mere wicked acts.
01:52:36.100It's specifically a reference to betrayal.
01:52:39.120And I think it's pretty clear that Jerusalem is that great city, the unfaithful wife who had continually betrayed her marriage with God.
01:52:46.480And of course, Jerusalem and Israel are referred to a harlot in Isaiah 1, Jeremiah 2, chapter 3, Ezekiel 16, Galatians 4.
01:52:56.560It's the only city in the Bible that's called a harlot.
01:52:59.860And that's what brought the day of the Lord was their harlotry, right?
01:53:03.380God delivered Israel into the hands of her enemies because she played the harlot.
01:53:08.140And so, too, will it be at the end when the great day of the Lord comes in the final days and the Lord God delivers Jerusalem into the hands of her enemies.
01:53:18.820And then the icing on the cake is Luke 13 says, you know, Jesus himself says a prophet cannot perish outside of Jerusalem.
01:53:25.940And then if you look at Revelation chapter 18, verse 24, it says,
01:53:29.840And in her was found the blood of the prophets and of the saints and of all the people that were slain upon the earth.
01:53:35.380So there are unresolvable contradictions in the text without understanding that apostate Jerusalem, God's bride who played the harlot, is mystery Babylon that is judged by the beast and the nations in preparation for their discipline and repentance and their acceptance of the true Messiah when he comes to establish his kingdom.
01:53:55.220That's that's that's that's that's the whole point.
01:53:59.580I think that we're going to have to put a pin in it here.
01:54:03.360Unfortunately, we have a meeting that we have to go to, but I'm really, really happy that we spent as much time talking about this as the Jews again.
01:54:14.400Well, no, I know. I know. I know we end up talking about the Jews a lot.
01:54:18.020It's an important topic because, you know, just to keep going back to it, it's like this is gripping the overarching conversation on X.
01:54:27.500And I do maintain that it's going to spill out into the real world.
01:54:31.740And it has already in so many different ways.
01:54:35.480And so I look at where I think this is going.
01:54:39.120And I think it's very important to at least talk about this.
01:54:45.260And I'm not saying that that we have the answers or Donnie, that that you have the answers.
01:54:50.520But I think that through extended conversation, we can come to something pretty close to it.
01:55:15.940And so I think that a lot of the audience probably resonates to my point of view, which is like, we're just fucking we're just gripped and trying to make the details.
01:55:24.080Well, I think it's like it's a there was a little bit of like talking past each other where I'm creating a straw man of what Donnie's saying.
01:56:01.660But as we move forward in this thing, there's so much nuance and conversation to be had.
01:56:05.620And also, it's like, I feel like if we're going to be kept on track and you don't want this new age message, because I agree with you, that's being proliferated.
01:56:14.040We just did an episode about the telepathy tapes where I think that that you should look into that.
01:56:18.060But that's going to be a huge arm of how this is proliferated.
01:56:20.520And the conversation needs to be had, what they are, what is going on, and what can we do to avoid the traps of the past, but not just avoid them.
01:56:30.700Because I don't think like inaction is avoidance.