Nephilim Death Squad - April 23, 2025


157: Stargate Secrets w⧸ Ryder Lee


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1 hour and 49 minutes

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173.87703

Word Count

18,961

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1,404

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

On this episode of the Nedealim Death Squad, host David Lee Corbo is joined by the Director of Disinformation, Ryder Lee, to discuss his new documentary, Raised by Giants. In this episode, Ryder talks about his research on MK-Ultra, and why he believes the government is trying to kill us all.


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00:01:13.440 We are being hypnotized by people like this.
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00:01:27.120 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:01:34.780 And the chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely normal.
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00:01:44.220 It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
00:01:49.880 They controlling this now, and no one's talking about how they made a spot of these slaves.
00:01:54.820 And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds and want to wake up to a dead in the grave.
00:02:00.020 But it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up.
00:02:02.820 Welcome to the end of day.
00:02:04.560 Everybody is slaves.
00:02:05.980 Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in their hands.
00:02:09.680 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:02:15.440 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.
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00:03:02.740 Anyway, guys, joining us today is Ryder Lee, back for the second time on Nephilim Death Squad.
00:03:09.660 Ryder, for the audience who may not be familiar with you, where can they find your work?
00:03:13.060 And what is it that you focus on?
00:03:15.560 I focus on all kinds of different topics, gentlemen, just like you guys do.
00:03:20.160 And you can find me on Raised by Giants on YouTube and any and all podcast platforms.
00:03:23.900 I'm also a documentary, documentary, documentarian, documentarian, I think that's the word.
00:03:30.600 You got it.
00:03:31.620 Documentarian.
00:03:32.580 Documentarian.
00:03:33.560 Tartarian.
00:03:34.960 Documentarian.
00:03:36.560 And I have two films on Amazon Prime, JFKX and A Clockwork Shiny.
00:03:43.200 Very cool.
00:03:44.000 Awesome.
00:03:44.560 I'm excited.
00:03:45.380 I'm excited to get into your work today because it's a little bit of a special preview, something you're working on.
00:03:50.440 And I think you realize that our little, our spiel had some significant overlap and we probably get a lot of facts wrong.
00:04:01.100 So I'm sure your research is much better than ours.
00:04:04.300 I'm excited to hear about it.
00:04:05.580 This is like Operation Stargate, DIA, CIA, Secret Operations, MKUltra shit, right?
00:04:10.900 What are we getting into, man?
00:04:11.780 What's the name of it?
00:04:12.480 Well, what got me started down this rabbit hole was that I was studying the MKUltra documents, just like you guys were.
00:04:22.020 And I realized that there were several subprojects of MKUltra.
00:04:28.400 There's 149 subprojects.
00:04:30.560 Well, I mean, that's the ones that we know of, right?
00:04:32.200 Because it said that.
00:04:33.400 149?
00:04:33.800 It was said that a lot of them got destroyed.
00:04:36.500 So a lot of the records of MKUltra, over half of them all got destroyed and burned, right?
00:04:43.080 But out of the ones that we know of, the 149 subprojects, there were five subprojects that was dedicated to psychic research.
00:04:54.920 And trying to induce these types of psychic experiences, you know, intuition, remote viewing, telekinesis.
00:05:04.780 And I was like, huh, that's really interesting because I know that the government had a psychic spy remote viewing program.
00:05:13.060 So are these two things connected?
00:05:15.980 And then I was like, well, I need to try and get a hold of these people.
00:05:20.820 So of the people that are legitimately in the Stargate remote viewing program or formerly was in the program, which is another thing, because I think that they continued this program.
00:05:35.720 They just did it under something completely different.
00:05:37.960 They found a different use for it.
00:05:39.640 And then they started doing that.
00:05:41.820 And that's probably still going on to this day, though we have really no proof and no evidence other than there's a lady that was in the Stargate psychic spy program that is still working within the government.
00:05:57.120 So all the people that are on the list that was officially in the program, which is less than 20 people, has ever been in the Stargate remote viewing unit, DIA Army Intelligence.
00:06:08.500 It's actually a smaller group than I thought it would be.
00:06:11.540 They're really kind of keeping that under wraps.
00:06:13.360 It's way smaller.
00:06:14.640 And that's another issue and another problem because so many people claim to be a part of the Stargate program, right, when they're not.
00:06:22.480 And they never were.
00:06:25.100 But there was another program that was kind of running simultaneously that kind of had some overlap, which was the Gateway program.
00:06:31.800 And some people may have been a part of the Gateway program, and they're getting it confused with the Stargate program because they're very similar in name.
00:06:40.840 And it was a long time ago.
00:06:42.380 But that was done by Robert Monroe, as you guys probably know about the Gateway program.
00:06:48.840 But those two names are very similar.
00:06:50.620 So people could go to Robert Monroe at the Monroe Institute, and that was to, like, try and induce an out-of-body experience by putting the frequencies in your head.
00:07:02.740 And, you know, you put on, listen to tapes, and then that was to induce an out-of-body experience.
00:07:07.380 And now the only overlap between that is that a few people from the Stargate program ended up going to the Monroe Institute, like Joe McMonigle.
00:07:16.940 He left the Stargate program and started up at the Monroe Institute, and he's essentially the head of the Monroe Institute to this very day.
00:07:24.540 So there's a lot of people that have gotten that kind of confused.
00:07:29.300 And you could essentially go to the Monroe Institute back in the day and pay them money, and then you would go through this type of, you know, gateway experience to try and induce an out-of-body experience.
00:07:41.460 So, but those things are not really connected at all.
00:07:46.540 They're two separate things.
00:07:48.500 But the only connection that there is is that – I might be jumping the gun a little bit here.
00:07:53.740 But the – at some point, Army Intelligence paid Robert Monroe and the Monroe Institute, I think it was like $2,000.
00:08:06.020 It's in the official document.
00:08:08.460 Around $2,000 to send their Army Intelligence people to go to the Monroe Institute to do this gateway program because they thought maybe somehow it would help with, you know, what they were doing.
00:08:21.680 Like to try and see if any of this stuff is connected.
00:08:24.600 Is an out-of-body experience connected to having psychic abilities, which I think that it is.
00:08:29.780 I think that out-of-body experiences and NDE experiences or near-death experiences are also connected because whenever you have an NDE experience, people normally come back different, right?
00:08:42.300 So whenever they leave their body or if they have an out-of-body experience and then they come back into their body, they're normally different.
00:08:48.620 They normally, like, want to change their lives.
00:08:51.060 And that's another rabbit hole that I went down as well.
00:08:53.220 Like, it seems like that they are a completely different person whenever they come back.
00:08:57.700 So it's like, well, what is coming back into them?
00:08:59.800 Is that a different consciousness?
00:09:01.100 Is that a split consciousness?
00:09:03.100 Is that their own consciousness?
00:09:04.660 Is that their own consciousness mixed with some other consciousness?
00:09:08.260 Who knows?
00:09:08.800 No one really knows.
00:09:09.500 But I think that more study needs to be done into NDE's and these psychic abilities because a lot of the people that I've talked to that claim to be psychic and some of the people that were a part of this official Stargate remote viewing unit by DIA and Army Intelligence have had near-death experiences.
00:09:29.220 I wonder if many of them have had abduction experiences because there seems to be a big overlap in a lot of, at least the patterns in the storytelling, that people will come back from abduction experiences or even NDE, near-death experiences, things of that nature.
00:09:48.800 You know, this is a little bit of an aside, but I wanted to mention this.
00:09:55.320 I was watching, what the hell is the name of the show, Top with the Autistic People?
00:09:59.040 I love on the spectrum.
00:10:00.060 Love on the spectrum.
00:10:00.580 And I got to that part where they mentioned synesthesia and the one boyfriend, autistic boyfriend, he associates numbers with colors.
00:10:12.900 But what I thought was really significant about it is later on, the girlfriend sings a song.
00:10:18.080 Did you get to that part yet, Top, where the...
00:10:20.180 Yeah, I buried my head under the pillow, though, because it's one of those.
00:10:23.900 It's a very cringy moment, but I was like, this is a good song, though.
00:10:29.220 It is a good song, like you could hear it on the radio.
00:10:32.040 There was no verses.
00:10:33.540 I mean, there was no chorus, right?
00:10:34.740 There was no hook.
00:10:36.060 It was just fucking straight lyrics, dude.
00:10:37.940 Like, she just killed it for three minutes.
00:10:39.640 Fucking never.
00:10:40.400 She didn't repeat shit.
00:10:42.280 But I was listening to her, and I'm like, it's not like she has a tremendous voice,
00:10:46.300 but she knows exactly, like, where her pitch should be.
00:10:49.200 And I started thinking about that where you were talking about Perfect Pitch Top.
00:10:52.400 And I'm looking at this couple, and I'm like, it's so strange because she does have this uncanny ability to present the correct pitch.
00:11:00.040 This is a well-done pop song.
00:11:02.000 If you just reduced it a little bit and added a chorus, this could be a banger on the radio.
00:11:07.340 But then also his ability to see numbers associated with colors, I thought that was very strange.
00:11:13.000 The other guy with the hat as well, I don't know where this is leading to, but he's like a DJ, autistic dude that's a DJ.
00:11:20.760 And the girl that he was on the date with is naming every song, and he's telling her the key signature and even the time slips within the song just by thinking about it.
00:11:29.780 So that's Perfect Pitch as well.
00:11:31.480 It's like, that's extreme Perfect Pitch just thinking of the song, not even hearing it.
00:11:34.660 The reason that I was thinking about that is because I know that there is a frequency that is associated with disassociation.
00:11:45.780 So much of what we're looking at here, whether it's near-death experiences or out-of-body experiences, astral projecting, remote viewing, you name it.
00:11:56.280 Even the Monroe Institute, there's tapes.
00:12:00.700 You can listen to the tapes, and they'll teach you in some way how to disassociate.
00:12:06.380 And then even going back to the Gates program, when you're listening to that and they're trying to find out if you're a fit for the gifted and talented, what the fuck ever.
00:12:13.300 It's all frequency-based.
00:12:14.800 It's like they'll put a headset on you and they'll go, can you hear that tone?
00:12:17.980 Can you hear that tone?
00:12:19.220 And they get harder and harder to perceive.
00:12:21.460 But in the Monroe method or whatever it's called, and then also in astral projection, there's like a binaural beats aspect to it.
00:12:33.100 So if you want to astral project, if you want to disassociate, there's actually, and I'm not recommending people do this, but there are binaural beats.
00:12:41.360 There are frequencies that you can listen to that will get your mind in the correct space to then somehow slip out of your body.
00:12:49.540 And so basically what I'm saying is all of these things are connected.
00:12:53.240 There's a frequency or frequency is at the heart of all of this.
00:12:56.740 I don't really trust those tapes though, because you have no idea what people put in there or what people actually did with those tapes.
00:13:06.020 Like they could sneak in other different kinds of stuff into the tapes.
00:13:10.000 Like who knows what's actually in those types of tapes.
00:13:14.100 So I personally don't trust them, but apparently you have to have some sort of old school headphones for them to actually work.
00:13:20.580 Because apparently the types of frequencies that are coming through there, like the new headphones, don't admit that old style type of frequency.
00:13:31.140 So you have to have an old ass pair of headphones for them to work.
00:13:34.800 But you're mentioning like this idea that, because I think it was a Thomas Campbell that was on Joe Rogan, where he was essentially talking about the Monroe Institute.
00:13:46.600 And he was really good friends with Robert Monroe.
00:13:49.240 And he essentially, every time that he would sit down and do a meditation, he would be outside of his body.
00:13:54.840 And he was a computer programmer, right?
00:13:57.440 And he was like computer science stuff.
00:14:00.940 And whenever he was sat down to meditate, he would instantly be outside of his body.
00:14:05.920 And then he would see all of the errors in all of his code whenever he was sat down to meditate.
00:14:14.900 So then whenever he would go back to fix this code, he would automatically know where all the errors are.
00:14:19.600 He didn't have to do any trial and error with any of his stuff.
00:14:23.000 So something, he was tapping into some kind of information data field out there that was giving him the answers to his code.
00:14:30.540 I thought that was one of the more interesting Joe Rogan episodes of recent times.
00:14:37.400 Because he's essentially talking about Robert Monroe and the Monroe Institute and how he would sit down and do this meditation.
00:14:44.040 And he would be given all this information about his work and how to fix his code.
00:14:50.300 That's fascinating.
00:14:51.200 I wonder if there's a connection there because we're aware of that guy.
00:14:53.820 What is it?
00:14:54.640 The surgeon of the rusty knife or something like that.
00:14:57.660 But in his issue, this is a guy that had no formal training in surgery, but then was able to still conduct surgery to quite a degree of success,
00:15:07.720 curing people from various ailments, cutting tumors out and things of that nature.
00:15:10.560 Previously, he was just a taxi cab driver.
00:15:13.520 But the story for that is outright that he was channeling.
00:15:17.940 But I don't know.
00:15:18.780 A lot of these kids, as well, they talk about the Akashic Records.
00:15:22.440 I don't even know what I think about that.
00:15:24.320 I guess it's like this sort of thing that's in the ethereal realm that can be tapped into and looked at.
00:15:29.920 Is that what we're describing, Ryder?
00:15:31.480 Nobody knows what that is.
00:15:33.380 They like to throw that word out there.
00:15:35.120 Akashic.
00:15:35.480 I'm in the Akashic Records.
00:15:36.800 I'm seeing all the records.
00:15:37.940 I know exactly what's going on.
00:15:39.640 And they have no idea what that means or what that even is.
00:15:42.140 It's like the halls of Amenti, right?
00:15:43.760 They're like, a lot of this stuff is metaphorical and allegorical.
00:15:47.180 It's not like a literal place.
00:15:49.280 And it's not a literal thing.
00:15:51.700 And that's a really big issue, too.
00:15:55.740 But there was a place that I was going and I completely lost my train of thought there with the Akashic Records stuff.
00:16:02.640 Well, I just want to say as an aside that our boy Donut made an attempt.
00:16:06.300 I don't know to what degree he found any success or anything like that.
00:16:08.760 But he made an attempt to listen to the Monroe tapes to try to get into this remote viewing mind space and to try to view the Akashic Records.
00:16:17.960 I don't know if he had any success with that.
00:16:20.440 He's still a podcaster.
00:16:21.440 So I would imagine no.
00:16:22.680 I don't know what kind of things you gleam from fucking the Akashic Records.
00:16:26.840 But if they're not helping you to get out of this grind, then I don't know what worth they actually are.
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00:17:01.900 Yeah, so essentially what happened was I got a hold of the people that I knew that were verifiably in the Stargate program.
00:17:11.980 A person that...
00:17:14.120 You got a hold of them?
00:17:15.660 Yeah, I've had a majority of them on my show.
00:17:18.760 Fuck yeah.
00:17:20.740 So I had this one gentleman on that I had met at UFO Megacon like three or four years ago.
00:17:28.340 His name is Trey Hudson.
00:17:30.180 He's a former DOD.
00:17:32.140 He worked in the military and everything.
00:17:35.040 And I had him on my show.
00:17:36.160 I was like, hey bro, like, you know, what do you know about this remote viewing stuff?
00:17:40.420 Because the remote viewing Army Intelligence DIA program was also under the banner of the DOD.
00:17:47.880 So essentially the DOD runs everything.
00:17:50.460 And there's these like sub people that are underneath it that are...
00:17:55.200 That have the name that are essentially also running it.
00:17:58.520 But it's all under the DOD.
00:18:00.260 The Department of Defense essentially runs every single program regardless of...
00:18:05.260 It's all under the DOD banner, right?
00:18:07.100 And I was like, well, what do you know about these remote viewing programs?
00:18:09.800 And he was like, well, I know a lot about them.
00:18:11.620 Like, I have all of the documents on them.
00:18:15.700 And I was like, okay.
00:18:16.900 And at this time, very few of the documents were available online.
00:18:22.300 Like, you couldn't just type in Sunstreak remote viewing document and the CIA's website pulls up and you can read about it, which is happening now.
00:18:32.640 Like, the Sunstreak document where they're talking about the Ark of the Covenant being remote viewed, which I know exactly who the person was that's been on my show that was the person that remote viewed the Ark of the Covenant.
00:18:44.860 Really?
00:18:45.480 So what do you think about that claim?
00:18:47.320 Well, I haven't exactly gotten his opinion on it yet, but I've had all this information for around three years now.
00:18:57.460 I've had all of the documents.
00:18:59.480 I've known about this for a really long time.
00:19:01.820 And I've kind of just been sitting on it because I've been wanting to do something really big with it.
00:19:06.460 I've been wanting to put together something really big.
00:19:08.940 And it's going to be the basis of my newest and latest documentary that's going to be on this stuff.
00:19:16.040 So you guys are getting a really big preview right now of the kind of essence and the basis of what that documentary is going to be.
00:19:24.040 When will it be out?
00:19:25.180 When do you think?
00:19:26.060 I'm in the writing phases right now.
00:19:27.800 I'm almost finished, you know, completely writing it.
00:19:30.740 And then we'll probably go into production at the hopefully middle of summer.
00:19:37.700 I'm going to try and knock out a few interviews in the middle of summer.
00:19:40.980 So it probably won't be out for probably close to the end of the year.
00:19:46.400 So what's the writer?
00:19:47.940 Yeah, exactly.
00:19:48.880 I see David's little clockwork and the monkey with the symbols.
00:19:53.460 You're on the West Coast.
00:19:55.820 I'm in California.
00:19:56.620 Yeah.
00:19:57.040 I mean, that's not a problem.
00:19:58.660 That's not solvable.
00:19:59.800 We are having Brohemian Grove.
00:20:02.740 Yeah.
00:20:03.120 Brohemian Grove is going to be the 20th and the 21st of June.
00:20:07.340 Right.
00:20:07.700 Yeah.
00:20:07.960 20th and the 21st of June.
00:20:09.340 And a lot of the material is going to be about this.
00:20:12.840 And Ryder.
00:20:13.680 You might want to come hang out.
00:20:14.340 Maybe we can, we might be able to present you a little caveat if we can get you down
00:20:18.300 there.
00:20:19.060 We are going to have, or I mean, our plan is, and we most likely will have a documentary
00:20:23.780 crew that's going to be working on this.
00:20:26.020 So recording most of this event that's going on, at least the conspiracy side, not necessarily
00:20:31.920 the comedy side.
00:20:32.680 And we were planning on doing our own documentary, but maybe we can collaborate or maybe there's
00:20:39.000 something to do there.
00:20:39.920 If you, you know, I don't know.
00:20:41.540 We'll think about that.
00:20:42.320 Put that in a little open invitation, Ryder.
00:20:45.780 And maybe we'll iron out some of those details later on.
00:20:48.280 But yeah, there's, there's a huge amount of overlap between what we're doing and what
00:20:53.620 you're doing.
00:20:53.920 But to your credit, you're actually talking to the bugging people that were there.
00:20:58.240 We're not doing that.
00:20:59.240 And that was really important to me because like I was mentioning, uh, for sure, I'm 100%
00:21:05.500 down with that.
00:21:06.080 Let's chat after the show for sure.
00:21:08.200 Let's get in contact with that because I'm definitely interested, but that was really
00:21:12.900 important for me to actually reach out to the people that were involved in these programs.
00:21:18.980 And I had some of these people on before a lot of, before they, before freaking Lex, not
00:21:27.520 Lex Friedman, what's his name?
00:21:28.740 Sean Ryan had them on their show before he started delving deep into the remote viewing
00:21:34.220 stuff.
00:21:34.680 Like I had had Angela Ford on like three years ago.
00:21:38.060 And then he recently just had Angela Ford on his show.
00:21:41.780 So I've been in contact with these people and I know them and I've, I consider myself pretty
00:21:46.920 good friends with them.
00:21:49.160 And it was important for me to actually talk to them because there's a lot of people that
00:21:54.160 are like self-proclaimed remote viewers, but they're not really remote viewing.
00:22:00.040 And these government remote viewers will tell you that they're not remote viewing.
00:22:06.680 They're using their imagination.
00:22:09.200 There's a very, and people can argue with me about this, whatever, but you can now go
00:22:15.000 on and see the document online.
00:22:17.000 You can now go on and see the Sun Street document.
00:22:20.020 Okay.
00:22:20.260 So, and that's where I got the bulk of my information because it essentially lays out the entire history
00:22:26.380 of the government remote viewing program and their study and their interest into it.
00:22:32.460 It's a very sophisticated process.
00:22:36.160 Like you can't just sit down and close your eyes and, uh, remote view something.
00:22:44.920 That's not the way the remote viewing works.
00:22:46.980 It's never been designed that way.
00:22:48.640 It's a very strenuous, sophisticated process.
00:22:52.400 Like you have to have people that assign the target and the person that is assigning the
00:22:57.820 target cannot, uh, they have to be essentially be trained to assign the target.
00:23:03.340 You can't just look at a photo of, uh, like, let's say I have this freaking Antarctica reader's
00:23:13.300 digest book here.
00:23:15.060 I can't just look at the cover of this freaking Antarctica book.
00:23:19.000 And then all of a sudden remote view Antarctica.
00:23:22.080 Right.
00:23:22.920 I always wondered about that.
00:23:23.940 Cause if you look into it, we became aware of the remote viewing phenomenon.
00:23:27.100 Um, obviously peripherally aware forever.
00:23:30.440 It's been around for so long, but we ended up, uh, knocking into it content wise, uh, when
00:23:35.280 it came to the cliff high predictions and his web bot and cliff high, for those of you
00:23:39.800 who don't know, but this is our audience.
00:23:41.260 So they fucking are, they're rolling their eyes right now.
00:23:43.700 Um, no, it's been long enough.
00:23:44.960 They probably long enough.
00:23:45.920 Okay, fine.
00:23:46.560 So they're not doing, they're doing half an eye roll.
00:23:48.500 Have you spoke with this guy?
00:23:49.900 Is that the guy from cliff high's, uh, remote viewing Dick Allgaier?
00:23:53.120 I think his name is there's Dick I've heard of him.
00:23:56.920 I don't know about him though.
00:23:58.120 So essentially what happens is cliff high.
00:24:00.180 He has a, uh, a rudimentary AI bot that scrapes data off the internet.
00:24:04.960 And through that data in conjunction with some emotionally charged vocabulary, it's a
00:24:09.580 little bit weird.
00:24:10.220 He's able to derive predictions, or at least the AI is able to derive predictions about the
00:24:15.220 future.
00:24:15.500 And it spits out key phrases and words, and it leaves cliff, uh, as the interpreter of
00:24:21.160 these key phrases and words.
00:24:22.180 And one of the things that it predicted was, uh, the Donald Trump and Joe Rogan interview
00:24:28.240 on the JRE that happened, I guess a year, a year ago now, it was it a year ago?
00:24:33.520 How long ago?
00:24:34.040 Maybe, maybe Ryder, you could explain to us.
00:24:36.320 Yeah, that was about, no, that was October.
00:24:38.060 That was when Bohemian Grove happened like a, right before the last one.
00:24:41.180 The short of it is just that to flesh out the rest of that prediction, he used a remote
00:24:45.300 viewer.
00:24:46.040 And there, there are numbers that he gave him, which I like, I don't understand that all
00:24:49.400 how this works.
00:24:50.080 He gave him, it was like R and then like maybe six numbers.
00:24:53.400 And the guy was able to take those numbers and then remote view whatever from that.
00:24:58.460 And he got...
00:24:58.980 But to your point, Ryder, Cliff couldn't tell him details about what he wanted him to be.
00:25:04.160 He didn't even tell him it was him.
00:25:05.560 That's exactly right.
00:25:06.660 It's a, it's a blind remote viewing.
00:25:08.660 If you know the target, you can't remote view the target because your subconscious mind
00:25:15.180 has already been tricked into believing what you're going to see.
00:25:19.120 Dude, that's okay.
00:25:20.040 So sometimes...
00:25:21.860 That's what people don't understand.
00:25:23.440 That's what they don't get about this remote viewing stuff.
00:25:26.120 They think that they can just sit down and look at whatever and then just remote view it.
00:25:31.040 That's not remote viewing.
00:25:31.960 That's just sitting down and closing your eyes and using your freaking imagination of what
00:25:36.200 you think that you're supposed to see.
00:25:37.880 The remote viewer is blind to the target.
00:25:40.800 That's where the person that is assigning the target comes in.
00:25:45.580 Okay.
00:25:45.900 So the person that's assigning the target essentially has to put...
00:25:49.860 Yeah, there it goes.
00:25:51.180 So, okay.
00:25:52.100 This, this, the set of numbers right here, this was basically invented by Ingo Swan, right?
00:25:57.860 It's called coordinate remote viewing.
00:25:59.980 But the, the coordinates isn't, they don't mean anything.
00:26:05.940 Really?
00:26:06.800 The coordinates don't mean anything.
00:26:08.600 So are they somehow inherently charged with something?
00:26:12.100 Exactly.
00:26:12.860 Okay.
00:26:13.420 Okay.
00:26:13.840 All right.
00:26:14.120 Intention.
00:26:15.220 Whoa, that's crazy.
00:26:16.300 That's fucking even crazier, dude.
00:26:17.880 That's even crazier.
00:26:18.960 Yeah.
00:26:19.160 Because, because if they're coordinates, you go, oh, they've mapped out the astral realm.
00:26:22.760 And it's like, that's not what's happening here.
00:26:24.180 There is an intent that's imbued upon that coded, you know, series of, of numbers and, and letters.
00:26:29.320 And that somehow, uh, that other person, that remote viewer can tap into the intent that you've bestowed upon that code.
00:26:36.720 That's fucking fascinating.
00:26:38.160 Right.
00:26:38.360 Or another, another thing, um, with, so in the upper right-hand corner in the, in the middle of the page here, he has like a, it's a compass.
00:26:46.520 And we think it's a spirit compass.
00:26:48.440 Is this something that you've seen as well?
00:26:51.080 Uh, what, what part am I looking at?
00:26:52.980 Uh, a little bit.
00:26:54.460 Sorry, I can't.
00:26:55.000 Yeah.
00:26:55.180 That right there.
00:26:56.180 The circle with a cross.
00:26:59.160 Well, this is like a, uh, a sketch.
00:27:01.980 And, uh, what do they call it?
00:27:03.400 An idea, not an idea grammar.
00:27:05.760 Um, there's a specific word for what they sketch out.
00:27:09.440 So whenever the remote viewer is doing a, a remote viewing session, like a legit remote, remote viewer, like a government remote viewer, people that have been trained to be able to remove you.
00:27:23.400 Like, and some of these people within the Stargate program do train other people on how to remote view and they go through the process.
00:27:30.400 So what, what essentially happens is whenever they're remote viewing, they sketch out like all the details.
00:27:36.800 Like if you were to pull up the, well, you probably can't find it because it's not readily available online.
00:27:42.060 But if you were to pull up the syndicate document from SRI from 1973, you will see in the syndicate SRI document, all the sketches that Pat Price and Ingo Swann was doing on the target that was given to them on the base in West Virginia.
00:28:00.220 On the military base in West Virginia.
00:28:02.420 So they essentially sketch everything out and then they write like little details because if they don't, then they're, you're relying on total recall.
00:28:11.860 You're, you're relying on them to remember all the information, but it's normally a lot of information coming at them at one time.
00:28:19.520 So they have to sketch things out.
00:28:21.600 They have to scratch things down like Joe McMoneagle.
00:28:24.540 He got information, um, that the, the, uh, that there was this big, huge hanger, this brand new submarine that was being built.
00:28:34.900 Unlike any other submarine that had ever been seen before.
00:28:38.300 And then he sketched all that out and how it was, how it operated, what it looked like, the hanger that it was in.
00:28:45.020 And that's how they got the information.
00:28:46.900 See, I think this is, uh, a natural phenomenon, but that does need to be trained because I think we all have something like, uh, my, my grandmother, interestingly enough, was a alien abductee victim.
00:28:58.420 Also wrote, hand wrote a lot of paperwork on remote viewing.
00:29:02.300 Unfortunately, she died when I was a kid.
00:29:03.840 So like, I never got to ask her these questions.
00:29:05.960 I can't imagine like why the fuck a woman would be writing paperwork on the process of remote viewing.
00:29:11.700 Uh, very, very strange.
00:29:13.100 But, um, I think that, you know, she fancied herself a clairvoyant too.
00:29:17.940 I think I have some remnant of that, but what gets in the way every single time.
00:29:22.600 And I, I've like set out to do this.
00:29:24.740 Like I've laid down and be like, let's fucking go baby.
00:29:26.860 Cause weird shit does happen.
00:29:28.120 And I do go to weird places.
00:29:29.480 I do see weird things.
00:29:30.660 As soon as I try to think about what the fuck is happening, everything goes away.
00:29:35.680 Everything goes away.
00:29:36.500 The second I scrutinize it and I'm like, what am I seeing?
00:29:38.640 What, what is this?
00:29:39.220 What is this?
00:29:39.640 As soon as I do it, just fucking, it all fades away.
00:29:42.400 And I'm just looking at blackness behind my eyeballs again.
00:29:44.340 So there's like, there's an, there's something that is intrinsic to us.
00:29:47.860 Like we have it.
00:29:48.400 It's, it's within our nature or else we wouldn't be able to train it.
00:29:50.940 Right.
00:29:51.440 But it seems like there is a process because if there wasn't a process, like if it was just a natural,
00:29:57.640 like think real hard type of thing, I'd have fucking done it already.
00:30:00.500 I used to be homeless and I would spend a lot of time in the dark at night, too sad to sleep,
00:30:04.840 just looking at the blackness behind my eyeballs that there is a process.
00:30:08.440 I agree with that.
00:30:09.480 It needs to be trained.
00:30:10.680 Um, and then, and then the question is, should it, I don't know, I can, I don't know if it
00:30:16.100 should, I'm still, uh, you know, waiting around in those, in those waters.
00:30:21.060 Um, but, but I do think that there is a natural aspect to this.
00:30:24.820 Yeah.
00:30:25.260 That's what all of them will tell you is that, you know, we all have this ability to do it.
00:30:31.300 It's just like a muscle that needs to be exercised, right?
00:30:35.560 Like you don't build muscle, uh, by not exercising and sitting on your couch all day.
00:30:41.480 Right.
00:30:41.920 You have to go to the gym and like work that out and you have to train yourself and you
00:30:46.100 have to have discipline.
00:30:48.200 Right.
00:30:48.320 So if you're not flexing that muscle and you're not training, then it essentially just lays
00:30:53.500 dormant.
00:30:54.580 Atrophies.
00:30:55.400 Yes.
00:30:56.440 Hmm.
00:30:56.680 Interesting.
00:30:57.580 Interesting.
00:30:58.460 Now the information that I've, uh, gotten into is, which is the, you know, the main reason
00:31:07.020 that I'm, you know, here today.
00:31:08.760 And it may not seem like it's important to a lot of people, but it's really important to
00:31:16.100 me.
00:31:16.480 Right.
00:31:17.100 Because I think that it's, you, you have to understand how this army intelligence psychic
00:31:25.000 spy program, you know, came to be in the history of, cause it's very convoluted.
00:31:31.700 There's several name changes.
00:31:34.820 There's, uh, different funding apparatuses.
00:31:38.780 Uh, and I've, you know, so, so this is like a compilation of the basis of what's going to
00:31:46.660 be my documentary.
00:31:47.580 And, uh, I mean, obviously it doesn't have all the remote viewers testimony and exactly
00:31:52.720 what they were doing in there in here, because this is based off of all of the documents that
00:32:00.480 I have on remote viewing from, uh, official unclassified documents.
00:32:05.360 So really in order to, to like figure out the Stargate remote viewing unit at Fort Meade,
00:32:13.780 first off, you would have to have a, like, in order to be in this program, you have to
00:32:23.700 have a military record of, of being in the program, right?
00:32:26.500 Because it's a military program.
00:32:28.900 So several of the people that are claiming to be a part of this program are just lying
00:32:34.500 and they're making things up.
00:32:36.460 And that seems, that is, uh, technically like committing, like, uh, stolen valor, right?
00:32:43.400 They're, they're claiming things that absolutely cannot be verified and that they were never
00:32:47.700 a part of, like they're pretending to be in the military.
00:32:51.200 And that's another thing that people don't really realize because the CIA is one thing.
00:32:56.780 The military is a completely different thing.
00:32:58.760 And when people think that this was a CIA program, it's easy to say, oh, well, you know,
00:33:04.100 you really can't get in trouble for seeing that you were in some sort of CIA program.
00:33:09.720 There's not really strict laws around that, but there are more strict laws when it comes
00:33:14.620 to stolen valor and being, seeing that you were a part of a military program when you weren't.
00:33:20.680 So everything that I'm getting ready to mention, uh, unless I clarify and say
00:33:26.300 that it's not a part of the documents and my, it's my own personal opinion came from
00:33:31.400 these verified, uh, defense intelligence agency, uh, unclassified documents.
00:33:39.740 I've read them several times and I even reread them to make sure that everything that I'm
00:33:45.560 about to say is very accurate.
00:33:47.480 All right.
00:33:48.740 Well, before we do that, then, uh, I have to, this is such a perfect time to end this
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00:34:30.200 All right.
00:34:30.940 Now that they are at, it's nice that when somebody brings, uh, um, I read the documents,
00:34:35.840 I double read the doc and then I went back and I verified that I read the documents the
00:34:39.520 right way.
00:34:39.960 That's really nice.
00:34:40.680 That's refreshing.
00:34:41.420 We don't get that on this show.
00:34:42.420 We don't read documents at all.
00:34:43.440 Actually, we go entirely with our balls, um, which is why we're also the wall, baby
00:34:47.480 calls to the wall.
00:34:48.360 So very refreshing to hear that somebody has read something, um, and, and are now going to
00:34:54.100 present it to two dudes who can't read.
00:34:55.760 I'm really looking forward to this.
00:34:56.840 So, uh, pick it up wherever you'd like writer.
00:34:59.940 Well, apparently a lot of people can't read.
00:35:02.600 Uh, seems like that.
00:35:03.880 I know that you're joking, but a lot of Americans, like a lot of kids nowadays can't read.
00:35:10.020 They can't write.
00:35:11.800 They can't spell.
00:35:13.180 They can't tell time.
00:35:15.000 It's unbelievable.
00:35:15.620 But so pretty much all of the military services at one point in time or another has been involved
00:35:23.860 in psychoenergetics.
00:35:26.040 Now, psychoenergetics is what is described in these documents.
00:35:29.840 They don't come out and really say remote viewing.
00:35:33.820 They refer to it as psychoenergetics.
00:35:35.840 And most of the military services have found it that it's applications oriented, meaning
00:35:44.500 that they found a use for it.
00:35:47.060 Now, that doesn't mean that they all ran their own programs.
00:35:51.740 They did not.
00:35:52.520 But what I mean by that they were involved is that they would give tasking to army intelligence
00:36:02.180 and the DIA, right?
00:36:04.140 It doesn't mean that they all ran their own separate programs.
00:36:07.800 But the CIA could task army intelligence and the DIA on a target, right?
00:36:17.320 So if we had a missing downed airplane in Russia or whatever, then the CIA would contact army
00:36:26.900 intelligence and the DIA on this target, and then they would have their remote viewers try
00:36:33.820 and remove you or the missing downed airplane, right?
00:36:36.800 And that's the way that it works.
00:36:38.540 But people have lumped all of these things in together and think that everybody had their
00:36:44.820 own like remote viewing unit, but they didn't.
00:36:48.300 Okay.
00:36:48.520 So where all this starts is with SRI, Stanford Research Institute.
00:36:52.940 But the government was also doing studies in parapsychology earlier than SRI.
00:37:00.220 They did it with Duke University in the 30s, Parapsychology Foundation.
00:37:06.800 In New York in the 50s, Mine Science Foundation in the 60s, and a bunch of other research foundations
00:37:13.080 and centers earlier than SRI.
00:37:14.980 But the thing that kicked it off was SRI in the early 70s.
00:37:19.160 So it's important to establish a little bit of background on SRI.
00:37:24.420 SRI's first research investigation was whether a plant could be used as a source of natural rubber.
00:37:32.660 So from 1942 to 1946, that funding to figure out if a plant could be used as a source of like rubber for the war,
00:37:46.020 for World War II, that funding got cut.
00:37:48.360 So in 1947, the Air Force wanted to determine if U.S. aircraft, the U.S. aircraft industry, had like expansion potential, right?
00:38:02.520 So after the war, they were like, okay, well, how far can we expand this aircraft industry?
00:38:07.620 SRI found that it would take too long to escalate the production in an emergency.
00:38:11.780 So in 1948, SRI began research and consultation for the Chevron Corporation to develop an artificial substitute for coconut oil and soap products, right?
00:38:22.800 So the reason for mentioning all that is to establish that SRI is a government contractor.
00:38:30.100 And most government contractors are a front for the intelligence community.
00:38:34.480 And it's also establishing that SRI worked for the Air Force prior,
00:38:39.760 which is a very important thing to remember when we get into things later on.
00:38:44.520 So SRI formerly separated from Stanford Research, well, Stanford University, sorry.
00:38:52.800 When was that study done about the rubber tree plant?
00:38:56.680 The rubber plant?
00:38:58.520 The rubber plant was in 1942.
00:39:04.120 Okay.
00:39:05.060 For some reason, I just like, they used to sing us this dumbass song in school.
00:39:09.360 It's a Frank Sinatra song.
00:39:11.180 The rubber tree plant song?
00:39:12.680 Yeah, the rubber tree plant.
00:39:13.640 I was like, I never fucking like, what the fuck are you talking about here?
00:39:15.900 A rubber tree plant, but like over and over we'd sing it.
00:39:18.400 I just wonder if there's a...
00:39:19.600 The ants?
00:39:20.300 Yeah, the ants.
00:39:21.080 It's moving the rubber tree plant.
00:39:22.600 It never really made sense to me, but I was like, okay.
00:39:25.940 It's a strange song.
00:39:27.040 I'm sorry, Ryder.
00:39:28.300 And it was done by SRI, bro.
00:39:32.020 It just triggered our MKUltra programming.
00:39:35.280 I didn't have to go shoot up something.
00:39:37.720 I don't know what just happened, but something fucking taken over me.
00:39:41.660 So SRI formally split from Stanford University in 1970, but it didn't become known as SRI International until 1977, which is another contention.
00:39:56.240 There's kind of two separations here going on.
00:39:59.500 So you have SRI, you have Stanford Research, then you have SRI International.
00:40:04.360 And that was in Palo Alto, California, which I was just in a couple of weeks ago and just drove through Palo Alto.
00:40:11.440 But in 1972, the United States Army Surgeon General, through the Medical Intelligence Information Agency, together with the DIA, published studies of Soviet block work in psychoenergetics.
00:40:30.300 And also in that same year, SRI, Stanford Research Institute, started research on psychoenergetics.
00:40:38.240 So in 1972, Howell put off and Russell Targ, they did a series of investigations into the psychic phenomenon.
00:40:49.020 And this was funded by the CIA and had consciousness researchers, Ingo Swann, Pat Price.
00:41:00.300 Yuri Geller, that's where Yuri Geller came out of.
00:41:03.460 But then they got rid of him because they thought that he was some sort of Mossad infiltrator.
00:41:10.080 But, and this kicked off the syndicate document that I was mentioning earlier, where you can read through the syndicate document and you can see these, the work and the remote viewing that Ingo Swann and Pat Price was doing on this target in West Virginia.
00:41:26.380 And it's really incredible.
00:41:27.460 I really recommend if people can find it, just to look through it because they're giving like details, bro.
00:41:35.480 Like, it's like impossible for somebody in California to know exactly what's going on in West Virginia, what this facility looks like.
00:41:47.040 They had the wind speed.
00:41:50.200 They knew how windy it was, what the temperature was, and all this is recorded in this document.
00:41:55.140 So, syndicate was the SRI project to determine if remote viewing psychoenergetic phenomenon was real.
00:42:04.660 Because if it was possible, then that the, you know, the subjects that SRI were working with on, like, the psychoenergetic phenomenon, and if they could be using psychic powers to collect information, that could they be getting that information subliminally?
00:42:20.200 Could they, how are they getting this information?
00:42:22.900 So, that was SRI's study is to verify, are they really psychics or are they really using their psychic abilities?
00:42:32.960 Dude, I'm like, I'm thinking about how you would try to dismiss that because obviously you wouldn't want to jump to any conclusions and you'd want to try to, you know, disprove this.
00:42:43.400 If, if, if there was any way possible, right, you said, like, are they subliminally getting, like, I can't fucking think, if somebody accurately is describing the wind speed on the other side of the country, you know, among many other confirmable details, I wouldn't know how the fuck, I couldn't figure out how to reach to dismiss that.
00:43:02.620 I really, I really couldn't.
00:43:03.920 Well, I think some, I think some things are like, oh, well, are they, are they getting it from memory?
00:43:08.260 Like, are, are they just making, are they just making stuff up, but.
00:43:12.280 Right.
00:43:12.640 I mean, there is a chance, right?
00:43:13.880 You make up some shit and it ends up being correct, but you know, there's going to be a, a probability when it comes to how often, you know, whatever your success ratio is.
00:43:23.520 And that's going to really shit on, on your ability to dismiss that.
00:43:28.240 Yeah.
00:43:28.640 And that was one of their tests that that's what they were doing.
00:43:31.300 They were doing a series of tests, like all back to back and to see how accurate.
00:43:38.260 The remote viewers actually were.
00:43:41.320 And this gentleman name, well, it's referred to in the documents as a businessman, but we now know his name was Pat Price.
00:43:50.180 They just refer to him as Pat in the official documents.
00:43:53.320 So when Pat Price got the, this coordinate that was given to him by how put off in Russell Targ, he remote viewed this area in West Virginia.
00:44:08.460 Now it was supposed to be one of the, I think that it was either how put off or Russell Targ's like cabin that was in West Virginia.
00:44:20.340 So whenever they got the coordinate and Pat Price removed it, he was like, he was describing this facility that had like radar systems.
00:44:30.080 And it was, it was a U S top secret, uh, facility that in this guy's cabin.
00:44:36.880 Well, not right over the hill of this guy's cabin.
00:44:40.000 Oh, shit.
00:44:42.280 Just right on the backside of the, of the hill from where this cabin was.
00:44:46.340 Yeah.
00:44:46.840 Chances are he doesn't go over the hill.
00:44:48.680 He goes fucking through it or under it or some shit.
00:44:51.440 You know what I mean?
00:44:51.820 There's a tunnel system.
00:44:52.780 Get out of here, man.
00:44:54.860 Yeah.
00:44:55.220 I just want to say too, on this topic of like, you know, you're laying out how this thing was compelling, but still there's strenuous testing that has to be done to confirm whether or not this is an actual phenomenon or is it just guessing or is it something like that?
00:45:08.360 And that's part of the reason that I find the whole telepathy tapes thing.
00:45:12.120 So, um, underwhelming, it's overwhelming in the way that it connects to a much bigger picture.
00:45:17.180 Um, and it's, there seems to be some obfuscation that's, that's embedded within the telepathy tapes, uh, to paint a narrative in a certain light.
00:45:25.700 But the reality of the situation is there, they have these children, they're displaying these things.
00:45:31.500 And then they're like, yeah, anecdotally, it seems to be, you know, working, but obviously this is groundbreaking and we have to do research.
00:45:39.820 It's like the fucking research already been done, dude.
00:45:41.860 It's all, it's not groundbreaking.
00:45:42.900 This has been happening for a long fucking time.
00:45:44.960 A lot of what these kids are describing in the telepathy tapes is remote viewing because it's not just telepathy.
00:45:50.400 It's interesting.
00:45:50.920 They called it telepathy tapes because, um, some of these children are describing how they can be any, absolutely anywhere they want to fucking be, which is, you know, that's remote viewing in my opinion.
00:46:01.820 Uh, but it's just really funny that the way that the public is receiving this is it's groundbreaking.
00:46:07.300 It's a new development and we got to study this shit ASAP.
00:46:10.720 But what you're telling me Ryder is that these breakthroughs have been happening for a long time and there are governing bodies and there are intelligence agencies and military operations that have a vested interest in finding out whether or not this phenomenon is real.
00:46:22.200 We, we, we, we also had some weird evidence come to us about, about these tapes and, and these children with the idea of the hill that they're meeting on this hill.
00:46:31.120 It's the hill behind this fucking dude's house.
00:46:34.020 Yeah.
00:46:34.520 On the other side of his government agency.
00:46:36.180 Um, somebody just said that their, their nonverbal autistic kid, I guess was, uh, they were watching the episode, our episode with this woman named fringe, who's an abductee.
00:46:45.820 And we kind of touched on this and a listener's nonverbal autistic kid reported to her that her kid then told her that, yeah, he's been to the hill.
00:46:56.100 And she says, where is it?
00:46:57.660 And the kid just said, Utah.
00:47:00.080 Yeah.
00:47:00.240 Yeah.
00:47:00.440 So, so she's listening to our episode.
00:47:02.440 She turns to her own autistic child and says, have you ever been to the hill?
00:47:06.280 And the kid goes, yeah.
00:47:07.720 And then she goes, where is it?
00:47:09.060 And this kid just says, fucking Utah.
00:47:10.720 And I, I, Utah is fascinating to me because of all the like electromagnetic disturbances there.
00:47:15.140 I think that plays with frequencies in a huge way that suggests that there's something in the geography of Utah specifically that is like thinning the veil.
00:47:24.380 Frequencies and entities are coming in and out.
00:47:26.800 Um, and of all places for this hill to be like Skinwalker Ranch, uh, yeah, Skinwalker Ranch, things like that.
00:47:33.800 So I don't know where to put that.
00:47:35.460 It's just something that we've gotten.
00:47:37.380 It's fascinating.
00:47:38.220 And, and, and of course, if you look into Utah, there are two major military bases.
00:47:42.580 I forget what they are.
00:47:43.360 So it's like, there's military bases, there's national forests and there's Skinwalker Ranch.
00:47:47.300 So there's plenty of places, you know, in Utah where this could be happening.
00:47:50.400 But yeah, just a, just a strange aside is all well, also Utah was one of the first states to do these like wilderness retreats for like troubled teens.
00:48:01.960 Oh, dude, that's fucking nefarious.
00:48:05.700 Troubled teens, uh, uh, uh, wilderness getaways for troubled teens, man.
00:48:10.840 I wonder how many of those troubled teens fucking went MIA.
00:48:14.280 Yeah, that's a, uh, that was a really big issue with Utah and they're still doing them to this very day.
00:48:21.500 Like there, there's still things like the, the, the behavioral treatment of like troubled teens is like a huge industry.
00:48:28.360 Yeah, yeah, because those troubled teens have, uh, uh, pestered and, and upset their parents to no end.
00:48:36.280 If they went missing, some of those parents would fucking breathe a sigh of relief.
00:48:39.280 They said it started in the sixties, uh, the, starting with initiatives like those at the Brigham Young University in the 1960s,
00:48:47.340 the Mormon connection is also fascinating, quite shady.
00:48:51.240 Yeah.
00:48:52.020 Interesting stuff.
00:48:53.120 Fucking Mormons.
00:48:53.720 What are you, what are you Mormons up to out there?
00:48:55.320 And then that turned into like facilities, right?
00:48:58.520 Like after it became like this wilderness retreat thing where they would have these kids, these troubled teens hiking for the entire summer in the mountains of Utah.
00:49:11.380 Then it turned into like a, like a facility where they would be abducted in the middle of the night.
00:49:18.000 Like their parents would pay this company to come to their house in the middle of the night.
00:49:23.480 And yeah, yeah.
00:49:24.240 And fucking like, put them in a blocked out van and drive them to this freaking facility.
00:49:31.640 Imagine that.
00:49:32.300 Imagine.
00:49:32.680 And some of those kids, I'm sure they experimented on.
00:49:35.060 So imagine never knowing, like you thought it was a, a tricky thing you were going to do to your kid.
00:49:40.020 You're going to show them what it's like, you know, have these motherfuckers show up in the middle of the night.
00:49:43.240 And then you, you effectively just trafficked your child.
00:49:45.700 I was, I was watching, I was watching a Stranger Things season one again.
00:49:50.760 It's honestly a tremendous show.
00:49:52.780 And it's really great, man.
00:49:55.040 Especially that first season.
00:49:56.180 And it had been so long since I watched it.
00:49:58.840 I was fucking floored with how transparent they are in that, in that first season where they're like, they're telling you it's MK ultra, you know, trauma base, fucking disassociative disorders.
00:50:10.080 Like all this crazy crap, they're just saying it, that's, they're telling you that's where 11 comes from, is a MK ultra breakaway branch, essentially.
00:50:19.340 And, you know, that her father.
00:50:21.700 And that's what unlocked her abilities.
00:50:23.160 Yes.
00:50:23.700 That's always, that's, that's honestly, I made a tweet the other day.
00:50:27.600 It fell on deaf ears.
00:50:29.380 Wasn't the banger that I thought it was.
00:50:31.200 But I just said.
00:50:32.380 We all been there.
00:50:33.900 Oh yeah.
00:50:34.660 It happens constantly.
00:50:35.240 I said, disassociation by way of sensory deprivation.
00:50:39.240 That's kind of how you can summarize this whole thing.
00:50:42.440 And that sensory deprivation manifests as multiple things, right?
00:50:46.220 Because in stranger things, 11 is creating a float tank, you know, so that's a sensory deprivation tank.
00:50:54.360 But then on the other side of it, another form of sensory deprivation is where you deprive children of their own autonomy and connection to their physical body, you know, by way of inoculation or some shit like that.
00:51:05.760 And then even, even in the, the, let's say the, the UFO phenomenon, I think there is a huge motivation to disassociate when, when you're, when you're taken or perceivably taken by entities.
00:51:20.660 It causes, it, it causes, it splits the mind, you know, because you're dealing with, what's up?
00:51:27.680 Check this out.
00:51:28.560 This is a, what's going on at Dr. Phil's ranch.
00:51:31.440 Yo, Dr. Phil, by the way, did that to catch me outside girl.
00:51:36.820 This is what I'm reading right now.
00:51:38.280 This is a.
00:51:38.600 Yeah, whisked her away and took her to a fucking facility where they abused her.
00:51:42.160 And she, she actually took up arms against that facility.
00:51:44.960 Turnabout Ranch in Utah.
00:51:46.840 It's a facility that we're talking about.
00:51:49.380 It's for troubled teens.
00:51:50.260 There it is.
00:51:50.660 Yeah.
00:51:51.060 Holy shit.
00:51:52.020 So they're claiming physical, emotional, and sexual abuse at the ranch.
00:51:55.540 They accused him.
00:51:56.340 Like he just said that he's negligent of like knowing.
00:51:59.280 And then there was a murder in 2016 as well.
00:52:01.620 Damn, man.
00:52:02.100 This is, this is.
00:52:03.300 That's what that fucking, what's that girl's name?
00:52:05.100 The catch me outside girl.
00:52:06.260 Well, that baby, right?
00:52:07.400 That baby.
00:52:07.940 That's right.
00:52:08.360 That kid, nobody listens to her because she's fucking out of her mind, you know, because she thinks she's black or whatever the case is.
00:52:13.300 But she got taken to that facility.
00:52:16.420 And then when she came out, she dedicated a lot of time and resources to try, like effectively whistleblowing on that facility.
00:52:24.040 And saying that there was all kinds of abuse and that she was abused there and that they're just doing this.
00:52:29.240 That it's a rotating or a perpetual thing.
00:52:32.480 Yeah.
00:52:32.700 Paris Hilton went through the same exact thing.
00:52:34.940 That's right.
00:52:36.780 Something's going on in Utah.
00:52:38.600 Some shit is going on in Utah.
00:52:40.140 That's fucking fascinating because if they're.
00:52:43.420 Provo Canyon, bro.
00:52:44.180 That's where Paris Hilton went to was Provo Canyon.
00:52:47.580 Is that in Utah as well?
00:52:48.820 Teen behavioral facility.
00:52:52.120 I think that Provo Canyon is in, might be in Arizona.
00:52:57.000 It's either in Arizona or.
00:52:58.540 Yeah, but that's like very much the same place.
00:53:00.980 Yeah.
00:53:01.220 It's the, but it's the exact same type of facility, right?
00:53:06.660 And they're right next to each other, right?
00:53:07.640 Arizona and Utah.
00:53:08.440 I'm geographically retarded, but I'm pretty sure I drove through both of them when I went to Vegas.
00:53:12.500 So.
00:53:12.580 Oh, no.
00:53:12.900 They're right there.
00:53:13.760 Provo Canyon school.
00:53:15.060 Provo Canyon is in Utah.
00:53:16.100 There it is.
00:53:16.900 What the fuck is going on in Utah?
00:53:18.880 I like these episodes where we start to connect dots like IRL.
00:53:21.860 We're so dumb.
00:53:22.920 And then with somehow though, every once in a while, we're like, this makes sense.
00:53:25.740 Oh, that's so cool, man.
00:53:27.420 That's so cool.
00:53:27.960 As these kids are getting fucking molested.
00:53:29.800 It's super cool.
00:53:31.220 Good God, man.
00:53:33.460 Yeah.
00:53:33.560 But it doesn't, it doesn't help them at all.
00:53:35.280 It's like, and the problem is, is that the parents that send these kids to these teen behavioral places, a lot of them are not bad kids.
00:53:50.180 No.
00:53:50.860 Yeah.
00:53:51.640 That's the issue.
00:53:53.340 That's the problem with the whole thing.
00:53:55.820 Like any parent that sends their, their kid to one of these facilities full damn well knowing exactly what it is.
00:54:04.060 Like they're not, they're probably not that bad of a kid.
00:54:08.580 And that's the, and whenever they get in there, dude, they're freaking hit with all this like mind control programming.
00:54:16.980 Yeah.
00:54:17.460 Like they're taught to be a certain way.
00:54:19.260 They all have to dress the same.
00:54:21.040 They all wear a uniform.
00:54:22.720 They're trying to break you.
00:54:23.760 They're trying to literally break you down and, but it never works.
00:54:29.260 It just makes them a hundred times worse.
00:54:32.720 And in Paris Hilton was lucky because her, you know, her family owns all the Hilton hotels.
00:54:39.180 So she was already rich and she was like already famous.
00:54:42.040 So she was able to escape that.
00:54:43.720 But many of them that have been through these programs, uh, their lives do not get better.
00:54:51.220 They often get worse.
00:54:53.620 And I think that these types of facilities are what some of the secret space program people have been through.
00:55:03.440 And they've covered up that trauma of going through one of these teen health facilities by thinking that they, that they were in some sort of top secret government, which it was, it was a government funded facility.
00:55:17.640 Normally a lot of these are government funded facilities, right?
00:55:21.300 Yeah.
00:55:21.900 And, uh, and they've replaced that trauma with some fantasy.
00:55:27.780 Hmm.
00:55:28.780 Yeah.
00:55:29.340 Yeah.
00:55:29.660 That's, uh, that's actually kind of natural to do.
00:55:32.080 Like create some kind of a story to block out this timeframe.
00:55:35.320 Yeah.
00:55:35.800 That's dark, dude.
00:55:36.860 Yeah.
00:55:37.220 Look in the WASP programs.
00:55:39.320 That's, that's what they were.
00:55:40.540 Or, um, it's like this curriculum that a lot of these behavioral teen health facilities are is called WASP programs.
00:55:49.260 But I actually ran into, uh, a girl that went to one of these in Utah, but I was not familiar with it at the time.
00:55:59.080 I worked in a behavioral health, alcohol and drug treatment center for around five years and I had ran into her.
00:56:05.800 She was like really young.
00:56:06.920 She had just like turned 18 and she was showing me photos of this facility that she was at in Utah.
00:56:12.900 And like the, she was all, she was like telling me all this stuff and it wasn't registering with me at the time because, you know, when you're dealing with people that are, you know, drug and alcohol people, like you don't know exactly what is true.
00:56:29.700 What's not true.
00:56:30.360 Are they just making stuff up?
00:56:31.460 But she was showing me the photos of her in this facility and all the things that she was, that they were doing to her.
00:56:39.840 And what were they doing?
00:56:40.600 I didn't, I didn't even think of that until I had gone down this, uh, huge rabbit hole.
00:56:45.640 And then I watched a few documentaries on it.
00:56:48.000 There's a documentary on Netflix called camp hell, which is all about the, uh, Utah, uh, teen behavioral stuff.
00:56:57.180 I didn't, didn't, um, is that the one that, uh, the catch me outside girl had something to do with or, or no?
00:57:03.160 Cause I do remember.
00:57:03.980 This was back in like 2010.
00:57:05.240 I think the documentary was made.
00:57:08.000 I wonder how many of these treatment centers are in Utah.
00:57:11.520 I was going to say, Ryder, I'm glad that you actually worked in the field because, you know,
00:57:15.380 it's come to my attention that you have to actually visit a place to, to be able to even talk about it.
00:57:21.200 So like, I'm glad that you've, uh, you know, hands-on experience.
00:57:24.800 Otherwise, how the fuck would we know anything?
00:57:27.240 You know?
00:57:27.460 Right.
00:57:27.920 Exactly.
00:57:29.280 You just can't talk about things in places that you've never been, dude.
00:57:35.380 I'm getting at least a six here.
00:57:37.600 And I don't know if that's a lot, but we have sunrise treatment center, youth care treatment center,
00:57:42.140 elevations, RTC, new Haven residential treatment center.
00:57:45.380 Embark behavioral health, uh, solstice West and copper Hills youth center.
00:57:50.140 Those are all, uh, it looks like they're all in, in Utah.
00:57:54.220 Wait, David, we're, we're getting a little off, off subject here.
00:57:57.620 Sorry.
00:57:57.640 Yeah.
00:57:57.940 I just was like, you know how it is.
00:57:59.220 We step in something fascinating and I'm fluctuating wildly from whatever you were saying.
00:58:03.620 Yeah.
00:58:04.980 Okay.
00:58:05.420 So where, where was I at with the, um, oh, the Ingo Swann and the Pat Price, um, document.
00:58:12.380 So Pat Price got this, uh, coordinate for the base.
00:58:16.980 Well, it wasn't the base.
00:58:17.920 It was the cabin.
00:58:18.540 And then he remote viewed the base and no one knew about this base.
00:58:22.420 It was a top secret base.
00:58:23.460 So then that coordinate was also given the Ingo Swann for him to verify Pat Price's remote
00:58:28.400 viewing of this, um, top secret military base in West Virginia.
00:58:32.860 So how put off and Russell Targ asked him to view this location again, to see if they can
00:58:37.940 get an inside look for documents to try and obtain code word information, right.
00:58:44.700 Um, with his psychic abilities, with his mind.
00:58:47.200 Okay.
00:58:47.420 So Pat Price went back to the facility, remote viewed the facility again.
00:58:52.300 And this is the mind blowing thing of this entire thing.
00:58:55.160 This document is literally insane, which is also talked about on, um, psychic spies, the,
00:59:01.620 the documentary by Russell Targ on remote viewing, but it's just so fascinating.
00:59:06.440 So Pat Price remote viewed the location again.
00:59:10.700 And he literally got inside of the facility with his mind and was looking around and he
00:59:18.420 saw a desk that had top secret information papers on the desk.
00:59:25.340 And he could read the words that was on the paper.
00:59:29.140 It was words like, uh, fly trap, mind run.
00:59:33.320 There was a file cabinet on the wall that was labeled operation pool, uh, folders on the
00:59:39.520 inside of the cabinet, uh, labeled cue ball, 14 ball, eight, it was rock up.
00:59:45.280 Uh, it was like, it was all code words that was based on the game pool.
00:59:50.820 Okay.
00:59:51.360 And he said that the site, the, the site, uh, resembled a name, um, vaguely like hay fork or
00:59:59.240 haystack, which is the code name for the facility.
01:00:02.760 He even got the names of the generals at the facility, uh, Colonel RJ Hamlin, uh, major
01:00:12.960 George R Nash, like all these people.
01:00:16.760 And this got the attention of the DIA in army intelligence, right?
01:00:20.080 Like this dude is using psychic abilities to get all this top secret information that
01:00:24.980 nobody is supposed to know about.
01:00:26.940 Right.
01:00:27.460 And this got all of the intelligence people, all the military community community, all
01:00:33.100 really interested in this phenomenon.
01:00:35.020 I'm sure it scared the shit out of them.
01:00:36.860 Right.
01:00:37.220 I personally believe, uh, you know, because if someone can get access to top secret military
01:00:44.820 information, like classified information with their minds.
01:00:49.640 Okay.
01:00:51.020 Then could our enemies do that exact same thing?
01:00:54.680 The jig is up, right?
01:00:55.320 Well, that's, what's kind of fascinating to me is that we built all this apparatus of
01:00:58.540 secrecy and government buildings and facilities.
01:01:00.940 And, you know, the Pentagon houses so many national security secrets and things like that.
01:01:06.780 But this psychic phenomenon, I still do think is one that is natural to a degree and then
01:01:13.440 can be trained even further.
01:01:15.340 And I don't know.
01:01:17.060 It's like how long have we existed on this planet?
01:01:19.800 It almost feels like this should have been something that we knew we were capable of.
01:01:24.500 And if we've always known that, like, let's say as, as a race, we just always knew like,
01:01:28.120 yeah, motherfuckers are going to pop in and, you know, kind of flip through your secret
01:01:31.280 cabinet with their brain.
01:01:32.760 Um, then we would have gone about a totally different way of maintaining secrets, a totally
01:01:37.900 different way of housing information.
01:01:40.340 You know, we probably wouldn't have drawers and file cabinets, or at least we'd fucking,
01:01:43.920 they wouldn't have glass on them.
01:01:45.180 You know what I mean?
01:01:45.620 Like, it's just, it's, it's fascinating that this thing seems to have so much, um, veracity.
01:01:51.180 It seems very real to me.
01:01:53.300 And, and I think that they've done that, that I think that they have, well, I mean, it's
01:01:58.020 been reported, it's not in any official documentation, but it's been reported that there are buildings
01:02:03.960 that the government has that they've blocked from, yes, all over everything.
01:02:11.940 Yeah.
01:02:12.180 I'd fucking be laying blankets and shit over all my desks.
01:02:15.080 I wonder if that's what they've done because like I said,
01:02:17.920 Well, they've made some sort of special wall, apparently.
01:02:20.540 Oh, that's interesting.
01:02:22.260 And they can't see through like a Faraday cage.
01:02:24.440 So that's interesting.
01:02:26.100 Some sort of something.
01:02:27.760 Again, it's, uh, that's just, it's, it's been reported that that's what's going on.
01:02:33.580 I wonder if like Faraday would work because I often think about when people are remote
01:02:37.840 viewing, if you could perceive them, what would you perceive them as?
01:02:41.460 Some people are like, you might see them as orbs, like ghost hunters and shit like that.
01:02:44.300 But it seems to me like we would, we would exist as frequency.
01:02:48.080 Like the best way you could detect if somebody was viewing you,
01:02:51.280 you would have a better shot of detecting a frequency that was at normal.
01:02:55.220 Do you remember the material that, uh, fringe said she put,
01:02:58.560 she put a helmet over her head when she was going to sleep because these abductions
01:03:02.600 were happening so frequently to her, uh, and not just abductions, but like weird visitations.
01:03:08.040 And she got a sense that they were physical, like a lot more physical than you think.
01:03:11.740 She said it was, um, but she put some sort of helmet on like it's like magneto helmet.
01:03:16.240 And it's made of this, like, uh, I kind of want to say that it's like that shit that,
01:03:20.840 uh, it's not though.
01:03:22.820 Uh, Ian Croson is always talking about, um,
01:03:24.840 Oh, like, uh, damn, what the hell is he always talking about?
01:03:28.080 Uh, yeah.
01:03:29.160 Like a 10-4, huh?
01:03:30.880 Well, I mean, effectively, yeah, but Ian Croson is constantly obsessed with, uh,
01:03:35.440 This, this type of material is like, it's like a rubber, but it does specialize in kind of
01:03:40.000 like weird electromagnetic signals.
01:03:42.540 She had it on.
01:03:44.060 She actually realized that she woke up with it tampered because it was put back on her
01:03:48.660 head.
01:03:49.420 Slightly different.
01:03:50.560 Yeah.
01:03:50.740 Like backwards.
01:03:51.680 Um, so I, I just, I wonder if they're using that similar technology or where she would even
01:03:56.780 get the inclination to use that kind of thing to stop.
01:04:00.820 I don't know, but it would be fascinating to find out that the way that they're blocking
01:04:04.080 remote viewers from seeing their room is by covering it in like Faraday material or some
01:04:07.940 shit like that, that would be like really big confirmation just once again, uh, in the,
01:04:12.820 in the frequency energetic, uh, division of this conversation.
01:04:16.960 Well, when you look at the X-Men, you just brought up Magneto.
01:04:19.800 I mean, that was his whole thing, right?
01:04:21.240 He would put the helmet on to keep professor Xavier from getting inside of his head and
01:04:25.060 influencing him to do stuff.
01:04:27.160 Yeah.
01:04:28.020 Yep.
01:04:28.480 Yep.
01:04:28.700 Yep.
01:04:28.940 Yep.
01:04:29.500 Which is the known remote viewing technique.
01:04:33.140 Like people can get into people's heads and influence them to do things.
01:04:37.940 things that they would otherwise never do.
01:04:41.180 That's what, which is crazy.
01:04:42.500 Russia was doing.
01:04:43.800 Russia had the very first program.
01:04:45.660 Now this isn't in official documents either.
01:04:48.960 This is something completely different.
01:04:50.900 Now, Lynn Buchanan, which is verified in, was in the Stargate program.
01:04:56.300 He was one of the top remote viewers in the Stargate program.
01:04:59.020 He's the one that, uh, the, the entire movie, the men who stare at goats is based off of.
01:05:04.800 Yeah.
01:05:05.040 Yeah.
01:05:05.180 Lynn Buchanan.
01:05:05.820 Okay.
01:05:07.580 He was the last time that he was on my show, we were talking about remote influencing and,
01:05:11.920 uh, you know, this perfect site integration where the, the bi-location aspect where you
01:05:17.100 can remove you and influence their environment, which sounds like what these kids are doing
01:05:21.200 in the telepathy tapes.
01:05:22.420 They're doing a form of bi-location, right.
01:05:24.440 Um, which is called perfect site integration, which is a, like a really advanced form of
01:05:30.300 remote viewing created by Ingo Swann.
01:05:32.540 So Lynn was telling me that the Russians were the first to create a remote influencing program.
01:05:43.660 Hmm.
01:05:44.060 Um, so they would essentially get into targets heads, plant thoughts, plant ideas to try and
01:05:52.280 influence them to do something that they normally wouldn't do.
01:05:55.340 Um, which is what we've been saying these entities are doing for the longest time.
01:05:59.780 Right.
01:06:00.040 And, and we're not just saying that we always go back to the, the muse kind of a narrative
01:06:05.300 where it's like great works that came out of Greece.
01:06:07.760 Um, we're often attributed to the muses and, you know, great works of art or things like
01:06:12.400 that.
01:06:12.700 Uh, and people still maintain that the inspiration for their, you know, their works, oh, it came
01:06:18.780 to me in a dream.
01:06:19.420 It came to me in a fugue state.
01:06:20.500 It came to me in a, in a state when I was, uh, uh, you know, under the influence of, of
01:06:24.460 this drug or that drug.
01:06:26.000 Um, so it seems like we're just taking a play out of the book of, of these spiritual entities
01:06:31.320 who, who, who nudge us this way in that way, you know, because we talk about it on the
01:06:36.320 show.
01:06:36.500 It's like so many of your ideas aren't your own.
01:06:38.960 They seem to be intrusive.
01:06:40.200 They pop up in your head, especially the ones that you would call inspired.
01:06:43.840 Uh, so something else outside of you is potentially funneling these, these thoughts and ideas into
01:06:48.820 your head.
01:06:49.160 And, and it feels like some part of our government was like, oh, we can do that shit too, baby.
01:06:53.200 Oh, uh, the, the material is called Velostat.
01:06:56.960 Velostat.
01:06:57.800 Yeah.
01:06:58.060 Or link, link stat, L I N Q S T A T.
01:07:01.580 It's a conductive plastic material.
01:07:03.820 Interesting.
01:07:04.720 Yeah.
01:07:05.340 So I, I, I wonder the reason I was thinking of, of what they said here.
01:07:10.200 Graphene oxide is, uh, it's infused with carbon black and I guess it gives it this kind of
01:07:16.180 like black sheen look to it, but she was using it as like a weird helmet.
01:07:21.100 And that's probably what gives it its conductivity.
01:07:22.820 Cause plastic knot is really kind of an insulator, uh, not, not a conductor.
01:07:26.660 So it's interesting, a hybrid there.
01:07:28.280 I wanted to ask you writer, before you go any further, you've communicated with a lot of
01:07:31.480 these people and you've looked into their stories, these remote viewers in particular.
01:07:34.380 Um, we find that, uh, pretty often if you find somebody who is involved in this situation
01:07:42.900 and they are communing with different, you know, let's just call them frequencies for,
01:07:48.980 for, for now, for this conversation.
01:07:50.920 Um, every once in a while you'll find, and in their old age, they lost their fucking mind
01:07:56.540 and became schizophrenic.
01:07:57.700 Like how, how are these people faring the, the remote viewers that you've looked into?
01:08:02.060 Are they just like crushing now?
01:08:03.360 And they're, they're having a good life.
01:08:04.660 They're retired and everything's all good.
01:08:06.280 Are they, uh, are some of them, have they lost their minds?
01:08:10.000 That's a really good question.
01:08:11.740 Um, all of them are doing great.
01:08:15.200 Huh?
01:08:15.480 Uh, yeah, several of them, uh, also teach remote viewing courses.
01:08:21.440 They train people on how to remote view and a few of them not going to say who, uh, but
01:08:31.280 I know personally the government comes to, to remove, to remove view stuff for them on
01:08:40.140 the side.
01:08:40.840 Like a consultant.
01:08:41.460 So they're essentially, exactly.
01:08:43.300 Yeah.
01:08:44.140 Huh?
01:08:44.660 That is fascinating.
01:08:46.560 That is fascinating.
01:08:47.380 The reason that I ask is because, um, I am wondering of the, the, the morality of this.
01:08:54.940 It, it seems to be a natural phenomenon.
01:08:56.980 It seems to be something that you can train.
01:08:59.640 Um, it seems to be dangerous, but no more dangerous or, or, or less dangerous than just
01:09:05.520 going into any uncharted territory that you're not familiar with.
01:09:08.940 You know, what, what, what exists here, what doesn't.
01:09:11.660 Um, and to me, it would be a tremendous red flag.
01:09:14.660 Like if all of them were fucking, you know, drooling and, and full of dementia and, you
01:09:20.580 know, uh, uh, uh, plagued by disembodied voices, I would go, oh, okay, well, that's
01:09:25.320 a good indicator not to fucking do this.
01:09:27.080 But, um, um, doesn't seem to be the case.
01:09:30.760 No, it's not the case.
01:09:31.780 They're all, uh, highly successful.
01:09:33.740 One of them is, uh, still a contractor for the government and runs his own business.
01:09:39.540 It completely separate from remote viewing.
01:09:41.500 Um, he does things for the army.
01:09:43.860 Uh, he has like a medical supply, uh, for the military, like on his own, like separate
01:09:52.260 thing.
01:09:52.580 So they're all highly successful.
01:09:55.600 They all, uh, you know, do their own thing.
01:09:58.280 So, but I think that that's like a thing for people that like, just like already have like
01:10:05.500 problems and like issues.
01:10:06.840 And then they think that they're remote viewing and then they're not really remote viewing.
01:10:10.360 So then they kind of lose their mind within that a little bit.
01:10:14.940 Um, I think also if you, if you started a bad place and you're susceptible to that sort
01:10:19.380 of thing.
01:10:20.300 Um, so I do maintain, I believe that there are entities that inhabit these spiritual realms
01:10:25.860 and the negative ones, they feed off of us like an energetic exchange.
01:10:28.900 Uh, they, they seem to eat negative energy.
01:10:30.920 So I suppose it might be reasonable to, to assume if you went into that realm as a beacon
01:10:37.060 of anger, depression, sadness, anxiety, all that shit, then you might attract something.
01:10:43.500 Um, but these people are not, they're not going into another realm, but like astral, astral
01:10:48.180 projection and remote viewing are, those are two different things, right?
01:10:51.020 Astral projecting is an astral realm.
01:10:52.760 Remote viewing is, is viewing this realm or apparently fucking Mars.
01:10:57.280 I don't know, which I guess is this realm, but we had just had that, that news article
01:11:00.860 come out from like the New York times where the New York times is like, Oh, fucking, you
01:11:04.820 know, they use remote viewers to remote view the surface of Mars.
01:11:07.680 Seems that there was, what, what did they say?
01:11:09.400 Like there was a war there or there was, and it was like, what, what am I supposed to do
01:11:13.100 with this New York times?
01:11:14.520 How fucking dare you?
01:11:15.720 Yeah.
01:11:15.880 They said that there was a, there was a nuclear war or whatever that wiped out the civilization
01:11:20.300 on Mars.
01:11:20.980 Yeah.
01:11:21.300 I don't know why that makes me, I want to go fuck you New York times, because in the
01:11:25.660 mundanity of everything, they're like, you know, uh, Donald Trump dictator or, or, you
01:11:31.400 know, friend or foe.
01:11:32.240 And, and, and then as an aside, they're like, by the way, we fucking remote viewed the surface
01:11:36.740 of Mars.
01:11:37.740 Seems there was a nuclear war anyway, back to fucking, you know, the, the stock markets.
01:11:42.240 And it's like, what, how fucking dare you?
01:11:44.500 What do you do?
01:11:45.500 Back to the tariffs, bro.
01:11:46.500 We got to talk about them tariffs.
01:11:47.500 Yeah.
01:11:48.500 I just think it, cause it's like, I I'm not the absorber of the New York times, but you
01:11:51.340 just gave normies the weirdest shit in the world.
01:11:54.620 Like that's fucking really, that's really strange, uh, article to give to, to normal people
01:11:59.500 and then to just go anyway and then move on from it very straight.
01:12:02.900 What do you think that they were, they, they remote viewed the surface of Mars?
01:12:07.020 Well, I'd like to know who remote view of the surface of Mars, but there were people
01:12:14.220 within the Stargate program, which we haven't even got into all the name changes.
01:12:20.000 We've barely even got into exactly what's going on here, but there was a gentleman, uh, skip
01:12:28.900 at water that was within the program that would have some of the remote viewers, like remote
01:12:36.160 viewing, like random stuff, like the moon Mars, I mean, why not Saturn, like all this stuff.
01:12:44.900 But a lot of the remote viewers within the program don't put any credence in those remote viewings
01:12:54.900 because they can't be verified.
01:12:56.900 Like you can't verify what you've seen on Mars because you can't go to Mars.
01:13:02.900 Okay.
01:13:03.900 So they, uh, they kind of just like throw that stuff out.
01:13:08.900 They're like, okay, well, yeah, maybe who knows, but is it verifiable?
01:13:14.900 No, it's not interesting.
01:13:16.900 All right.
01:13:17.900 All right.
01:13:18.900 So in, uh, 1976, the missile intelligence agency, uh, they started expressing interest
01:13:27.900 in the U S is like replication of like what the Soviet was, the Soviet psycho energetic
01:13:35.900 experiment experiments.
01:13:36.900 Right.
01:13:37.900 Um, because this is another way that they use this as an excuse to start up their own
01:13:46.900 program.
01:13:47.900 So they're like, okay, well, if this is real, we know that it's real because we've had these
01:13:52.900 subjects at SRI that has been able to repeat this several times.
01:13:56.900 We believe that the Soviets are also doing this.
01:14:01.900 So we have to start up our own program.
01:14:05.900 And during that same time, the army, uh, was, uh, involved in the investigation of remote
01:14:13.900 viewing concepts with SRI as well.
01:14:15.900 So the funding is coming from several different locations.
01:14:19.900 It's coming from the CIA is coming from the army is coming from the air force.
01:14:22.900 Air force picked up where the CIA left off.
01:14:25.900 The CIA stopped funding in 75.
01:14:28.900 Then the air force came in and started funding, uh, SRI as well.
01:14:32.900 And then the CIA came back and started funding the SRI again.
01:14:35.900 It's, uh, the funding is coming from all over the place.
01:14:39.900 So in 1977, U S army intelligence, uh, established a project under the assistant deputy chief of staff
01:14:48.900 for human intelligence and implemented a program named gondola wish.
01:14:53.900 Gondola wish.
01:14:55.900 Gondola wish.
01:14:57.900 This was the first name of this program.
01:15:02.900 Hmm.
01:15:03.900 And, but if you got on Wikipedia, well, it's even difficult to find anything on line about this stuff.
01:15:08.900 Because now, whenever you type in stargate program, you're going to get Trump's AI stargate program.
01:15:15.900 Right.
01:15:16.900 Which could well also be part of like, you know, kind of muddying the waters.
01:15:20.900 Yeah.
01:15:21.900 So the gondola wish program was started in 1977.
01:15:25.900 And by 1978, army intelligence concluded that there was sufficient evidence to warrant a, an official program.
01:15:35.900 So this was like a research program to explore the intelligence collection of psycho energetics.
01:15:42.900 The army then canceled the gondola wish program.
01:15:45.900 They placed a complete security, um, envelope over the entire, like army's interest in psycho energetics.
01:15:54.900 And then they implemented a new program directed at, uh, intelligence collection on foreign assets using remote viewing.
01:16:03.900 And that project was called grill flame to use these psycho energetic phenomenon as a data collection for intelligence information.
01:16:14.900 Right.
01:16:15.900 So by 1978 ends calm, the United States army intelligence and security command, uh, had the personnel that they wanted in this program.
01:16:24.900 And the training was initiated and the person that trained those army personnel that was Ingo Swann from SRI.
01:16:35.900 Hmm.
01:16:36.900 Train the army personnel on how to remove you.
01:16:39.900 Now there's a lot of discrepancy between if SRI ever walked into the doors at Fort Meade, or if the army personnel went to SRI to train.
01:16:52.900 Some people say that Russell Targ, how put off nobody, none of the remote viewer subjects from SRI ever walked through the doors at Fort Meade.
01:17:04.900 So that would mean that they had to have gone to SRI international in Palo Alto to be trained by Ingo Swann.
01:17:12.900 This was 77.
01:17:13.900 You said this was 78, 78.
01:17:18.900 78.
01:17:19.900 Hmm.
01:17:20.900 Um, after they had shut down the, uh, gone to the wish program, they opened up this other one called grill flame.
01:17:27.900 It seems like a lot of it is, I mean, I don't know if it's intentional or not, but it's, um, it's just like shutting one door, opening another one, moving from one program to the next.
01:17:35.900 But the, the through line is the same study.
01:17:38.900 But what it does is it gives us, um, this almost like fog of war situation where it's so confusing.
01:17:45.900 Like if somebody could say, Oh no, well they stopped that program, uh, you know, back in 77 and you go like, Oh yeah, technically they did stop that program.
01:17:52.900 But if you didn't know that they just started up another one of a very similar nature, pursuing the same shit and just called it something different.
01:17:58.900 And they did it the fucking the next year.
01:18:00.900 It's like, yeah, it never stopped.
01:18:02.900 Plausible to my ability.
01:18:03.900 Yeah.
01:18:04.900 Exactly.
01:18:05.900 And the issue that they ran into was, would the information obtained from the remote viewing psychics, would it be accurate?
01:18:13.900 And would it be reasonable?
01:18:14.900 And would the intelligence community accept the information?
01:18:18.900 So on, on September 4th, 1979, our army ACSI tasked INSCOM army intelligence to locate a missing Navy aircraft.
01:18:29.900 This was the first operational grill flame remote viewing session and the remote viewer located the missing aircraft within 15 miles of where it was down.
01:18:43.900 Where was it based off of those results INSCOM was then tasked to work on additional targets.
01:18:50.900 And this forced the hand of ACSI to head into full swing operations and skip over a lot of the training phases of the unit from Ingos one.
01:18:59.900 So they were essentially just like, okay, well, you made it to phase two or phase three of this program.
01:19:03.900 You're on your own now when there's just a lot of, there's a lot more levels to this, but this was also, there's contention with this one as well, because some people say that it was Gary Langford at SRI that located the missing downed airplane.
01:19:19.900 And then Dale Graff, which had a remote viewing unit at, I think it was Fort Detrick, Fort Detrick, Maryland, that by a lady named Rosemary Smith, that supposedly found the, the missing aircraft.
01:19:40.900 So you have a remote viewer, right?
01:19:43.900 Well, she was a remote viewer.
01:19:45.900 Gary Langford was also a remote viewer.
01:19:47.900 And then they also had this remote viewing operation.
01:19:50.900 So what do you think is happening here?
01:19:52.900 I 100% believe that it was Rosemary Smith that found the airplane, but they had to say that it was this grill flame unit that found the airplane to continue to get funded to keep the program afloat.
01:20:06.900 Right, right.
01:20:07.900 Because if they didn't have any actionable data that nobody got anything right, then they're going to have to shut down the entire program because it's, it's useless.
01:20:16.900 So they took the information from Rosemary Smith with Dale Graff, small remote viewing air force unit.
01:20:25.900 And then they took credit for it.
01:20:28.900 Army intelligence took credit for finding the downed missing airplane.
01:20:32.900 Now this correlates with what Jimmy Carter was saying in, in 95.
01:20:40.900 95, but she said it earlier than that as well.
01:20:43.900 But the, really the only one that you can find is from 1995, where he's doing like an interview and he's talking about how they found a, a downed Russian airplane that, that, that a psychic from California found.
01:21:05.900 Hold on, let me see if I can actually find this clip because it's, I tried to look for it before and I can't find it now, but I made a short of it on my YouTube channel.
01:21:18.900 But I think that it's important to hear him talk about it because it's, it's really fascinating.
01:21:26.900 I tried to, cause I was doing another short on it cause I just had Dale Graff back on my channel recently.
01:21:36.900 And I was trying to look for it again and I could not find it online anywhere.
01:21:41.900 And so then I just had to rip down the other short and then overlay the audio onto a new video.
01:21:52.900 Ryder, when you talk to these people have, have, I have to imagine you've asked, have they ever explained in any detail what the process is like, what it, what it looks like, what it feels like to, uh, to remote view a thing?
01:22:06.900 Yeah.
01:22:07.900 Yeah.
01:22:08.900 They all say that they're, they, they get the information, like the information just comes to them.
01:22:14.900 Like it comes to them in their mind and then they like write it down.
01:22:17.900 Like, I don't think it's like a, it's, it's even like a, a visual thing.
01:22:22.900 It's like based off of feeling.
01:22:24.900 Interesting.
01:22:25.900 Yeah.
01:22:26.900 It's like a lot whenever it comes into like, um, uh, things that are unexplainable, you might call them like supernatural or spiritual that your impression, it counts for a lot in these, in these encounters and these experiences.
01:22:38.900 So that's fascinating to hear that.
01:22:39.900 It almost sounds like that's primarily what they're using is impressions.
01:22:43.900 Yeah.
01:22:44.900 Uh, I got the, uh, let's do that.
01:22:48.900 Okay.
01:22:49.900 So this is Jimmy Carter talking about the psychics, uh, being used to find the missing down their plane.
01:22:56.900 The only strange and inexplicable event that has been discussed publicly is at one time we had a, a small plane go down somewhere in Africa.
01:23:07.900 We needed very much to find out where that plane had crashed and we were not able to find it by surveillance from our satellites.
01:23:17.900 So the director of the CIA, he was also director of all the intelligence agencies, heard about a, uh, a woman in California that, uh, was a medium.
01:23:28.900 And he contacted her and she gave him the latitude and longitude of the plane's whereabouts.
01:23:38.900 And the next time one of our space satellites went over that area, we located the plane where she said it was.
01:23:45.900 Wow.
01:23:47.900 And that wasn't, but he got a lot of things wrong within that.
01:23:50.900 It wasn't in Africa.
01:23:51.900 It was Russian.
01:23:52.900 It wasn't a lady from California.
01:23:54.900 It was, uh, remove your name, Rosemary Smith.
01:23:57.900 Jimmy Carter is just like me.
01:23:59.900 Yeah.
01:24:00.900 Yeah.
01:24:01.900 He did a lot of misdirection with that is to not reveal because this was in 95.
01:24:05.900 So it was like right around the time that the documents were actually starting to be, well, they hadn't been released yet.
01:24:14.900 I don't think that they were released until 2003, but 95 is when the program completely ended.
01:24:20.900 So it was still a, uh, top secret classified program that very few people knew about.
01:24:26.900 I mean, even the people on the base of Fort Meade didn't really even know exactly what was going on.
01:24:32.900 Right.
01:24:33.900 Right.
01:24:34.900 So.
01:24:35.900 Did you know that Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer?
01:24:39.900 That's the Jimmy Carter fact.
01:24:40.900 It was a throwback.
01:24:41.900 Shout out Jimmy Carter.
01:24:42.900 Shout out peanuts.
01:24:43.900 Shout out Jimmy Carter.
01:24:45.900 No, I didn't know that.
01:24:46.900 Peanut.
01:24:47.900 Peanut farmer, baby.
01:24:48.900 You didn't know that?
01:24:49.900 Come on.
01:24:50.900 Jimmy Carter was a peanut butter.
01:24:51.900 That's not the only thing I know.
01:24:52.900 Peanut butter.
01:24:53.900 Super episode.
01:24:54.900 We did episode with Elijah Schaefer and in his studio.
01:24:57.900 And, uh, I guess it was like Jimmy Carter day or something.
01:25:00.900 I was just hitting him every like three minutes with Jimmy Carter facts.
01:25:02.900 And he was like,
01:25:03.900 Carter facts.
01:25:04.900 Got a lot of Jimmy Carter facts.
01:25:05.900 Didn't Jimmy Carter have a UFO story as well?
01:25:08.900 He did.
01:25:09.900 Yeah.
01:25:10.900 Weird.
01:25:11.900 Very strange.
01:25:12.900 Very strange.
01:25:13.900 This, but outside of, I mean, you hear that, um, when it comes to like the FBI or unsolved murder cases,
01:25:18.900 things like that, uh, sometimes in desperation, they will, you know, refer to a clairvoyant, a psychic.
01:25:24.900 And I don't know if it's sensationalized how much a success ratio of that actually is.
01:25:29.900 There are, I imagine some psychics that, uh, are used more than others.
01:25:34.900 You know, if they, if they display some sort of competency or, or success ratio, but I don't know.
01:25:39.900 It always is a little frustrating to me when you see how dismissed this phenomenon is of like clairvoyance or remote viewing or anything.
01:25:47.900 It's a remote viewing or any of these things.
01:25:49.900 And then you find out that, um, at the highest levels, they will often end up using these people.
01:25:54.900 And while we grovel down here, uh, in the trash and we go, it's not real.
01:26:00.900 That shit's not real.
01:26:01.900 That's a con man.
01:26:02.900 This is that.
01:26:03.900 And I'm like, maybe I'm sure there's a lot of con people.
01:26:04.900 Um, but then there are stories like that, that you just go, well, what do you do with that dummy?
01:26:08.900 I don't know what to do with that.
01:26:09.900 It feels pretty real.
01:26:10.900 Yeah.
01:26:11.900 I've gotten into several arguments with the people that have no idea what they're talking
01:26:15.900 about because they haven't read all this stuff and they haven't talked with the actual, you
01:26:19.900 know, people that were involved in these programs.
01:26:21.900 And whenever you talk with them and you've done all this research and you've read the
01:26:25.900 documents, you have no other conclusion to come to then that this shit is real.
01:26:30.900 Yeah.
01:26:31.900 It's like, if I, if this can be done.
01:26:33.900 Yeah.
01:26:34.900 Unless they're lying that the information that I'm looking at here, if this is real, then
01:26:39.900 it seems to be that this phenomenon is real.
01:26:41.900 Ryder.
01:26:42.900 Have you fucking tried it?
01:26:43.900 Have you tried it?
01:26:44.900 Tell me the truth, Ryder.
01:26:45.900 No, I have not tried it.
01:26:46.900 Why haven't you tried it?
01:26:47.900 Because it's a, like I said, it's like a, it's a very sophisticated thing.
01:26:50.900 And like, you can't just give yourself your own target.
01:26:54.900 So what would I even really be doing?
01:26:56.900 I'll give you a target.
01:26:57.900 If I were, I don't know what I'll have for you, but I'll find a target for you, dude.
01:27:04.900 One of us has to, somebody has to try it.
01:27:07.900 All right.
01:27:08.900 That's what I'm saying.
01:27:09.900 Look, if you're, I wouldn't recommend it to any of the fans because I just don't know
01:27:11.900 what you're doing, but if you're going to do it anyway, reach out to me.
01:27:14.900 I'll give you a target.
01:27:15.900 I don't know how to do that, but we'll figure it out.
01:27:17.900 And we'll have to do something.
01:27:18.900 Actually, if you sign up for the $33 tier on Patreon, you get a telepathy.
01:27:22.900 So that comes with it.
01:27:24.900 And apparently, you know, just do it that way.
01:27:26.900 And it'll be fine.
01:27:27.900 I find that fascinating though, because I'm the same way.
01:27:30.900 You're doing it because you're like, I have to do it legitimately.
01:27:33.900 And I don't know if I can find a legitimate source of it.
01:27:35.900 I'm not doing it because I'm like, I don't know the implications of it.
01:27:39.900 And I would hate to just as somebody who's been inundated for a lot of my life with fucking
01:27:44.900 weird things, just weird, weird things, entities and fucking sleep paralysis and stupid shit.
01:27:50.900 I don't really want to open up that door because I don't know where these things that I see every
01:27:55.900 once in a while live.
01:27:57.900 They might live there.
01:27:58.900 And if I do that, then am I going to see them more because I don't like them?
01:28:02.900 They're pretty exhausting.
01:28:03.900 I hope they stay away.
01:28:05.900 So we just need somebody.
01:28:06.900 I think top would probably be a good candidate to start practicing remote viewing.
01:28:10.900 And then we can give them targets and then top could go and he can go and see things,
01:28:14.900 you know, he can go back to the city or he can go to Utah, maybe see what's going on in
01:28:18.900 Utah.
01:28:19.900 Maybe that's what we have to do.
01:28:20.900 We're never going to figure it out.
01:28:21.900 We're never going to raise the funds to have an NDS trip to Utah to go in and bust one of
01:28:27.900 these facilities.
01:28:28.900 We just have to, we have to learn how to remote view.
01:28:30.900 We got to go to Utah.
01:28:31.900 We got to see what's going on.
01:28:32.900 Is that, are we, are you okay with that top?
01:28:34.900 That sounds like a plan.
01:28:35.900 Let's do that.
01:28:36.900 I'm behind that.
01:28:37.900 Let's go.
01:28:38.900 I'm pretty sure that's why they have like those cryptids around these government facilities.
01:28:41.900 These dudes are guarding telepathically, psychically.
01:28:44.900 I'm not trying to run into like a dog man or some like, I don't know.
01:28:47.900 Well, that's the thing with a dolphin head.
01:28:49.900 Have you ever heard that writer that some people will go into this like remote viewing
01:28:53.900 or actual projection and there will, there seems to be operatives in that realm that are
01:28:56.900 like, no, no, no, fucking don't come here.
01:28:59.900 Have you ever heard those stories?
01:29:01.900 I've heard that.
01:29:02.900 I don't know how much truth there is to that.
01:29:05.900 Cause I could be just people making stuff up.
01:29:09.900 So they don't have to, cause they really didn't do anything.
01:29:14.900 Yeah.
01:29:15.900 They don't have the information so they can't give out the information.
01:29:18.900 So then they make the excuse that there were these psychic agents there that was blocking
01:29:22.900 them from the information.
01:29:24.900 Yes.
01:29:25.900 But, but it's not out of the realm of the possibility.
01:29:27.900 I mean, if they got freaking rooms and entire buildings that are essentially remote viewing
01:29:33.900 proof, like why wouldn't you have some kind of other kind of psychic defense from it?
01:29:41.900 But I don't know how much, like, are we really that worried about remote viewers?
01:29:48.900 Like doing this?
01:29:49.900 It seems like we should be.
01:29:50.900 Like, it seems like if this is fucking real, we should be really, really, really afraid.
01:29:55.900 You know what it is too.
01:29:56.900 It's like, it's the government.
01:29:57.900 So if there is a, well, I government jobs usually pay pretty well, but if there is a department
01:30:02.900 of fucking, you know, astral security, they probably get paid like $13 an hour.
01:30:06.900 And then that's just like, this is not worth it.
01:30:08.900 I got to work 60 hours in the astral realm to try to make ends meet and shit.
01:30:15.900 That's actually a really good gig.
01:30:17.900 They can't even prove that you're doing anything.
01:30:20.900 You could just like not even be doing anything.
01:30:23.900 I don't know where these fucking checks keep coming from.
01:30:25.900 All I know is you go in the bedroom and you lock yourself in the bedroom for, for a 12
01:30:29.900 hour shift.
01:30:30.900 And then also the check shows up.
01:30:31.900 I don't believe you.
01:30:32.900 I don't believe you at all.
01:30:33.900 It's going to be a really hard gig to maintain.
01:30:35.900 But I think that if, if, if there's this much evidence, I don't even call it anecdotal
01:30:42.900 evidence.
01:30:43.900 Cause it's not anecdotal.
01:30:44.900 I mean, we're talking about government documents and I don't know how much more official someone
01:30:48.900 needs the evidence to be in order to entertain this line of thought.
01:30:52.900 But I imagine that, um, foreign governments very much the same way that like we were in a
01:30:57.900 space with Russia and China to get to the moon.
01:31:00.900 And then people speculate that that's why we have faked footage.
01:31:03.900 It was like as, as a contingency, if we didn't make it to the moon before Russia did, we
01:31:07.900 could at least premiere this faked footage and be like, yeah, we did.
01:31:10.900 Fuck you.
01:31:11.900 And you know, do what you want with that information.
01:31:13.900 I don't know how I feel about that, but I, I can get behind the sentiment at least that
01:31:17.900 there would be a big, a, a big competition between us and other, uh, major world players.
01:31:23.900 So if China and Russia caught wind that we were employing to whatever degree of success,
01:31:30.900 remote viewers, I would, I'm be damn sure they would fucking, they would do all the same
01:31:34.900 shit.
01:31:35.900 So if we have it now, like China's got it, Russia's got it, you know, you name them,
01:31:40.900 they've got remote viewers.
01:31:41.900 Why, why wouldn't you?
01:31:42.900 I, I just can't say, I can't see looking at this and then not doing that.
01:31:46.900 Yeah.
01:31:47.900 And the United States has always been at odds with Russia.
01:31:50.900 Like since after World War II, like Russia has always kind of been that silent enemy
01:31:57.900 of the United States, but Russia actually, I don't want to get too far off topic, but,
01:32:03.900 um, Russia actually got more Nazis after World War II than the United States got.
01:32:10.900 Damn it.
01:32:11.900 Interesting.
01:32:12.900 That's interesting.
01:32:13.900 Hmm.
01:32:14.900 You know, there was a Russian equivalent of project paperclip that the United States
01:32:19.900 got and Russia got like double the amount.
01:32:22.900 This seems like it all comes from the Nazis too, because I was listening to something and
01:32:26.900 they were talking about the, uh, psychic connection between twins.
01:32:31.900 I forgot why that came up.
01:32:32.900 I think I was listening to an episode of tinfoil hat yesterday.
01:32:34.900 And that came up might've been that or, or, uh, or the confessionals, but either way,
01:32:39.900 this notion of the psychic connection between twins came up and it reminded me of, of Mengele's
01:32:44.900 obsession with twins.
01:32:45.900 Um, you know, during the, the, the height of the Nazi regime.
01:32:49.900 And I know that a lot of our data that created the MK ultra program came out of Nazi Germany.
01:32:56.900 And I, I just, it, it all feels like it's, um, it all comes from them.
01:33:04.900 Like whatever, whatever Hitler was doing, it seemed like he really discovered some shit,
01:33:09.900 like some real serious shit in the way of like a psychic phenomenon.
01:33:13.900 And, and that birthed, it was like planting a seed in our own culture.
01:33:18.900 And it, and it blew up into something massive that we're now seeing today.
01:33:21.900 Uh, at this huge scale.
01:33:23.900 Yeah.
01:33:24.900 This is the Russian version of project paperclip, uh, the secret Soviet operation, which more
01:33:32.900 than 2,500 German, uh, specialty scientists, engineers, and technician who worked in several
01:33:38.900 areas from companies and institution relevant to military and economic policy in the Soviet
01:33:44.900 occupation zone of Germany and Berlin, as well as around 4,000 more family members totaling
01:33:51.900 in 6,000 people were taken from Nazi Germany as war reparations to the Soviet union.
01:34:02.900 Wow.
01:34:03.900 That's a lot of folks.
01:34:05.900 Damn.
01:34:06.900 Yeah.
01:34:07.900 I wonder how much we got.
01:34:09.900 I wouldn't have guessed.
01:34:10.900 The numbers, uh, well, the official numbers, which we don't really know.
01:34:13.900 People, people claim that we got upwards of like 20,000, but official numbers is like
01:34:21.900 much lower.
01:34:22.900 Um, I think that it was like, uh, 1500 was the project paperclip.
01:34:32.900 Uh, yeah, it was 1600.
01:34:34.900 Sorry.
01:34:35.900 I was off by a hundred.
01:34:36.900 So it was a 1600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians.
01:34:40.900 Yeah.
01:34:41.900 So we, the Russia officially, now this is official.
01:34:45.900 Now this is just like, we don't know all the other stuff, but officially Russia got.
01:34:51.900 Well, uh, officially double the amount of.
01:34:56.900 Yeah.
01:34:57.900 Engineers, scientists, and technicians.
01:35:00.900 I would say that they may have gotten volume, but we got quality because our Nazi scientists
01:35:05.900 that we stole were the best Nazi scientists because we have a better propaganda machine.
01:35:09.900 We have a better space program.
01:35:10.900 Uh, we had the best Nazis, our MK ultra program, much more effective than the Russians.
01:35:15.900 I would say that we are, we are as a, as a people better propagandized than the Russian
01:35:21.900 people.
01:35:22.900 So in your fucking face, Russia, it's called a quantity over quality or rather the other
01:35:26.900 way around quality over quantity.
01:35:28.900 Okay.
01:35:29.900 So I want to rush through this, uh, this last part.
01:35:33.900 Cause I promise I'm going to try not to derail you.
01:35:35.900 I got a show in 15 minutes on my channel.
01:35:37.900 So I'm going to run through this bad boy real quick.
01:35:41.900 So in 1980, the, uh, Perry memorandum, uh, came about, which cut the funding for psychoenergetics
01:35:49.900 activities that didn't include, um, intelligence applications efforts.
01:35:54.900 So in 1981, uh, a few months later, ACSI transferred project guilt grill flame to inscom,
01:36:02.900 which is the United States army intelligence and security command.
01:36:06.900 Uh, they combined their efforts and this is another name switch name change.
01:36:11.900 They, uh, and this wasn't the only time the unit had been transferred or combined.
01:36:16.900 So the DIA and army intelligence signed a joint grill flame to implement a three year long program.
01:36:23.900 So the DIA is role in the joint operation was threat analysis, countermeasures, uh, using, uh,
01:36:31.900 uh, established psychics, uh, through contracts with SRI because they've been working with SRI since,
01:36:38.900 you know, 73.
01:36:39.900 Right.
01:36:40.900 So army's role, the army's inscom role was to apply the remote viewing program, use assigned personnel
01:36:48.900 and, uh, to enhance capability.
01:36:51.900 Now, remember in the beginning of this, whenever I said that everyone had their hands in the pot
01:36:56.900 of this, well, this merging of the DIA and army intelligence into one program.
01:37:02.900 Also created this merging of, uh, two other groups.
01:37:08.900 Uh, it formalized the cooperations among the secretary of the army, the army general counsel
01:37:14.900 and the assistant surgeon general for medical R and D and the vice chief of staff of army,
01:37:20.900 NSA, CIA, and the Navy.
01:37:23.900 But they were giving tasking to army, uh, intelligence.
01:37:27.900 Right.
01:37:28.900 So until 1982, the budget was cut to the program.
01:37:32.900 They cut the funding to grill flame because they thought that the project had been double
01:37:36.900 funded.
01:37:37.900 It had been double budgeted because they were doing this, this co operation between DIA and
01:37:42.900 army intelligence.
01:37:43.900 And they thought that the funding was coming from both of them.
01:37:48.900 Right.
01:37:49.900 And one was coming from army intelligence.
01:37:51.900 Another was coming from DIA when they were just both working together on it, but they
01:37:56.900 let the DIA complete their third year.
01:37:59.900 So at the end of 1982, INSCOM army intelligence terminated their former, uh, involvement with
01:38:07.900 grill flame and the DIA.
01:38:08.900 So the army splits from the DIA and the army opens up another program.
01:38:14.900 See, this gets so crazy and so convoluted.
01:38:16.900 It's going to be really great in a documentary style format.
01:38:19.900 Cause you'll be able to see the documents and get all the information and understand it.
01:38:24.900 Right.
01:38:25.900 But army intelligence opened up another special access program called center lane.
01:38:30.900 So in 1983, um, uh, Dr.
01:38:34.900 Richard, uh, what is his name?
01:38:37.900 Dr. Richard rellinger or rellinger or something like that.
01:38:40.900 He signed a memorandum allowing the resources to be used to maintain the support of army center
01:38:47.900 lane program.
01:38:48.900 So he revised the Perry memorandum that cut the funding in 1980 with the funding by the security and investigative activity.
01:38:56.900 So in 1983, the army remote viewing special access program center lane was decided again that it should be combined with DIA.
01:39:05.900 So in 1984, it was decided that the center lane special access program ran by the army should be combined with DIA's grill flame unit again.
01:39:16.900 So by 1985, the transfer from the army center lane project, the special access center lane program was then combined with DIA's grill flame program.
01:39:26.900 And it became known as a DOD special access program.
01:39:30.900 And the funding was restored because it was a pure intelligence and data collection program.
01:39:35.900 And then we got another name change.
01:39:37.900 So that name was called sun street.
01:39:41.900 And that's where this document is talking about.
01:39:45.900 That's out there now on the CIA's website operations sun streak.
01:39:48.900 And if you read through that document, you'll see that everything that I'm seeing up until this point is 100% real.
01:39:55.900 And legitimate.
01:39:59.900 So sun streak was to undertake operational intelligence application using a aspect of psychoenergetics known as remote viewing.
01:40:07.900 Now, it also states in this document, not only the Soviet threat, like I stated earlier, but that that we need to collect intelligence data on foreign targets.
01:40:20.900 So the program ran under sun streak until 91.
01:40:23.900 And then it was changed to stargate by Del graph, which I've had on my show several name, several times.
01:40:29.900 He changed the name out of his own words because it felt like he, the stargate described what they were doing better with like the human potential aspect of what they were doing.
01:40:39.900 So in 95, the program was then to be transferred to the CIA from the DOD and DIA CIA got their hands on it.
01:40:48.900 They said that no intelligence data had ever been collected from the program and they shut it down, which obviously isn't the case.
01:40:55.900 If you, if you've read through these documents, you would know that that is 100% not factual, that they did get highly good intelligence data out of the program.
01:41:07.900 And they turned out to be very accurate, but they shut it down anyway.
01:41:12.900 Hmm.
01:41:13.900 So, um, so what was the reason just that they, they thought that it was fruitless.
01:41:18.900 That's why they allegedly shut it down.
01:41:20.900 Yeah.
01:41:21.900 Well, I, I have a different theory on the reason why they shut it down.
01:41:26.900 I think that they shut it down because again, we're out of the realm of documents.
01:41:31.900 Now the documents are over.
01:41:32.900 This is my personal opinion and my personal thoughts.
01:41:34.900 I think that they, the CIA terminated the, uh, Stargate program because they already had, they either already had a program that they were working with or somebody else had a program or they were going to start up a new program.
01:41:50.900 They were going to do something different.
01:41:51.900 They found a different application for the remote viewing.
01:41:54.900 It's not just, uh, collecting intelligence data anymore.
01:41:57.900 It's something way more nefarious.
01:41:59.900 And they have, they can't take the people that was a part of the Stargate program into a new program.
01:42:08.900 Hmm.
01:42:09.900 What do you think about, um, the new Stargate program?
01:42:11.900 Is there any overlap or like why even name it the same thing?
01:42:15.900 It's, I mean, it, most of these names don't really correlate to the projects that they're actually doing, but I just found it kind of weird.
01:42:21.900 Yeah.
01:42:22.900 What was the other one?
01:42:23.900 Grill something?
01:42:24.900 Yeah.
01:42:25.900 Grill flame.
01:42:26.900 Grill flame.
01:42:27.900 Like how does that even apply?
01:42:28.900 Yeah.
01:42:29.900 It seems like they just pick random names sometimes, but I don't know.
01:42:31.900 What about this one?
01:42:32.900 This new project Stargate?
01:42:34.900 Sure.
01:42:35.900 I don't know the, the, it's interesting with the name.
01:42:38.900 I think that it's some kind of obfuscation, like they're trying to off skate, like, uh, for people trying to like look into the Stargate remote viewing program.
01:42:48.900 So they just named it Stargate.
01:42:49.900 I mean, Stargate, it became like super popular.
01:42:53.900 Um, you know, you have the Stargate TV show, you have Stargate SG one, like things like that.
01:43:00.900 And it's impossible for Dell graph was just talking about this the last time that I had him on.
01:43:07.900 He was like, it was impossible for these people to know about this program when all these TV shows and all these, all the stuff was, you know, coming out.
01:43:18.900 It's like the same thing.
01:43:19.900 If you want to try to find if Walt Disney is cryogenically frozen, all you're going to get is Disney's frozen.
01:43:25.900 You know what I mean?
01:43:26.900 Like whether or not that's true, I don't know, but I look at Project Stargate.
01:43:30.900 And if you try and look up looking glass technology too, you're going to get Alice in Wonderland through the looking glass.
01:43:35.900 Yeah.
01:43:36.900 It seems like there might be a connection just because, uh, through all of this research that is really parallel to yours, Ryder, we found that there is an implant aspect to it.
01:43:45.900 Um, whether it's a dental implant or maybe, uh, you know, metal that settles in the brain through inoculations.
01:43:51.900 But it seems to help, uh, the victim in, in this case, tune into these frequencies.
01:43:57.900 And if you look into Project Stargate, it's this unholy union of MRNA, uh, technology and, uh, and AI and who's leading the whole AI charge.
01:44:07.900 But Elon, who wants to put something in your head, it's an implant.
01:44:11.900 Right.
01:44:12.900 Um, and so I should watch the, you guys should watch the, the new episode, the first episode of the new season of black mirror.
01:44:20.900 Oh, I heard that that came out.
01:44:23.900 That's an interesting thing to say.
01:44:24.900 Why, why have you guys seen, have you guys seen severance?
01:44:27.900 The show?
01:44:28.900 No, I heard it was good, but I haven't seen it.
01:44:29.900 Wild, wild.
01:44:31.900 But the first episode of the new season of black mirror is essentially it has to do with like bees.
01:44:39.900 And like this woman is a teacher, she's like teaching grade school or she's talking about bees and how all the bees were replaced with, um, like artificial robot bees.
01:44:51.900 And then she would get these headaches and stuff.
01:44:53.900 And then she got like a tumor or whatever.
01:44:56.900 And then she went into a coma.
01:44:58.900 And this, this doctor shows up at the hospital and is telling her husband, uh, that there's this new, there's this new program out there to where we can put a chip inside of her brain and it'll give her the ability to like be, but she's going to be connected to the servers.
01:45:16.900 Right.
01:45:17.900 And the servers are only in this specific area.
01:45:21.900 So she goes out of bounds of this specific area.
01:45:24.900 Then she's going to slip back into the coma.
01:45:26.900 Whoa.
01:45:27.900 So it's essentially like an internet thing.
01:45:29.900 And she's like, oh, well, it's only a $300 a month.
01:45:33.900 Right.
01:45:34.900 So he signs her up for it.
01:45:35.900 She's okay.
01:45:36.900 She's super tired and super sleepy.
01:45:38.900 Right.
01:45:39.900 But then, I mean, I don't want to ruin it all, but, but she essentially starts speaking ads.
01:45:46.900 Like she just starts throwing out ads.
01:45:50.900 She's like, oh yeah.
01:45:51.900 Uh, get your lube from, uh, the, the lube center.
01:45:55.900 There's a hundred times better than any other lube, but like, like all this crazy shit.
01:46:00.900 And then they go to the lady and it was like, what is going on?
01:46:03.900 Like she's just spitting out ads like every like 20, 30 minutes.
01:46:06.900 And then she's, and then the lady's like, oh, well you're on the base tier.
01:46:10.900 Yeah.
01:46:11.900 It's amazing.
01:46:12.900 Yeah, dude.
01:46:13.900 What if there's a free version of neuro link?
01:46:15.900 And it's like, yeah, it's free.
01:46:16.900 You can get it for free, but that's what's going to happen to you.
01:46:18.900 You're going to be running ads for that is really.
01:46:21.900 Have you tried manscape?
01:46:23.900 Running ads for the, for the dildo.
01:46:25.900 My Patriot supply.
01:46:26.900 My Patriot supply.
01:46:28.900 Oh shit.
01:46:30.900 Well, look, look, uh, I know you got to fly a rider.
01:46:34.900 It it's refreshing to have somebody who actually has their handle on the information who's
01:46:39.900 spoken to these people who has access to the documents, uh, confirm a lot of, you know,
01:46:44.900 what we've suspected, but refuse to do any meaningful research on.
01:46:47.900 Uh, so it's nice to have, it's nice to have you, uh, on our show and to, to share this,
01:46:52.900 but, um, I know you got to fly.
01:46:54.900 So let's bring this in for a landing rider.
01:46:56.900 Where can everybody find your work, including your documentaries?
01:46:59.900 Uh, thanks for having me on gentlemen.
01:47:01.900 Really appreciate it.
01:47:02.900 It was a wonderful conversation.
01:47:03.900 I always love talking about the subject.
01:47:05.900 It's very near and dear to my heart.
01:47:07.900 Uh, and, uh, because I've looked into it, I've talked to the people, like you were mentioning,
01:47:12.900 I've read the documents.
01:47:13.900 So it's, uh, and I think it's really important to get the details of it in the, the history
01:47:19.900 of the program and how it worked and all the name changes and all the different things
01:47:22.900 and where it was funded.
01:47:23.900 The name changes were huge because that you run into that often.
01:47:26.900 Oh, MK ultra stopped, you know, whatever year it supposedly stopped.
01:47:29.900 It's like, none of it stops.
01:47:31.900 It just changes.
01:47:32.900 They get rid of the old crew.
01:47:33.900 They bring in a new crew.
01:47:34.900 It's compartmentalized.
01:47:35.900 The shell company.
01:47:36.900 It's a shell.
01:47:37.900 Yeah.
01:47:38.900 It's all of it is just obfuscation.
01:47:39.900 That's, that's really what's happening here at the end of the day.
01:47:41.900 And so that was a, a hugely important, I think.
01:47:44.900 Thank you guys very much.
01:47:46.900 You can find me on raised by giants on YouTube.
01:47:48.900 I'm getting ready to go live here in like five minutes on my channel.
01:47:53.900 Uh, and, uh, any and all podcast platforms.
01:47:56.900 And yeah, we're going to be talking about Trump's tariffs today because freaking everyone's
01:47:59.900 talking about Trump's tariffs.
01:48:00.900 So I'm doing a round table and Trump's tariffs, baby.
01:48:03.900 We're going to talk about it, but, um, thanks for having me on guys.
01:48:06.900 Uh, people would like to reach out to me, uh, personally, you can, uh, find me on Twitter
01:48:12.900 at raised by giants eight and Instagram at raised by giants pod.
01:48:16.900 Hell yeah, man.
01:48:17.900 All right.
01:48:18.900 Thank you again for coming on and, uh, good luck with your next show.
01:48:21.900 I hope you break some new ground with the Trump tariffs.
01:48:24.900 All right, guys, we'll see you next time.
01:48:27.900 And in the meantime, pray for Xerox.
01:48:29.900 He's having a hard time out there.
01:48:30.900 I don't know.
01:48:31.900 All of the Xerox.
01:48:32.900 Yeah.
01:48:33.900 Yeah.
01:48:34.900 All of the Xeroxes, but, uh, yeah, uh, obeisitment comply.
01:48:36.900 We'll see you guys later.
01:48:37.900 Bye.
01:48:38.900 The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
01:48:43.900 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
01:48:47.900 You can persuade us that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.
01:48:53.900 Because they'll act in the face of an expedition that portrays the bigger picture of what's going on.
01:49:01.900 And they have.