Nephilim Death Squad - 163： Biblical Cosmology 101 w⧸ Josh Monday

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00:02:38.460 Guys, joining us today is Josh Monday.

00:02:42.380 There he is.

00:02:42.860 I was waiting for his picture to show up.

00:02:44.020 Josh, for the audience who may not be familiar with you, let them know where they can find your work and what it is that you're all about.

00:02:51.060 Okay, you can find me on Josh Monday Music and Podcast, which is at the bottom of the screen on YouTube.

00:02:55.900 And then if you go to audio, you can find me on Spotify, Apple, or all the regular audio.

00:03:03.780 And just go to Josh Monday, Christian and Conspiracy Podcast.

00:03:07.080 And I also have two other shows.

00:03:08.700 One is Wednesday Service and Sunday Service, available on Cultic Conspiracy.

00:03:12.740 Sunday Service, I'm going through the Old Testament of the Bible, just word for word and doing commentary.

00:03:17.260 And I'm all the way to the Book of Deuteronomy 15.

00:03:20.900 And then also on the New Testament is Wednesday Service, and I'm all the way to Luke 17 there.

00:03:27.400 So can I, I'll just say something.

00:03:28.980 I don't like that.

00:03:30.440 I feel like, so you said Cult of Conspiracy?

00:03:32.960 Yeah, Cult of Conspiracy Podcast.

00:03:34.640 Yeah, Jonathan.

00:03:35.180 So you're there, Ed Mabry, is somehow what they, what's exactly what's going on here.

00:03:40.260 We love, we love Cult of Conspiracy.

00:03:42.220 They're going to be showing up to our event.

00:03:45.020 But, but yeah, it seems like you guys have a very.

00:03:48.080 They'll be, they'll be heading up the Conspiracy Roundtable, which I'm, I'm really looking forward to.

00:03:51.920 Because those guys like Jonathan and Jacob, first of all, they're insane, but they have such great personality.

00:03:56.460 So I'm going to, we're going to do our best to take the people that are there, like this hodgepodge group of people,

00:04:03.420 and just throw them on stage with them, cycle them in and see how they handle it.

00:04:06.480 And like, what's the conversation?

00:04:07.580 It's going to be a lot of fun, but I love that they have you doing that.

00:04:11.060 What a great idea.

00:04:12.020 Just have you hosting this Bible study, man.

00:04:14.600 Yeah, they, they, they hit me up and they asked me when I went on their show, they said,

00:04:17.980 Hey man, we have a proposition for you.

00:04:19.880 And I started doing Sunday service and it was working out really well.

00:04:22.960 And thank God, you know, all glory to God.

00:04:25.280 So, and then they asked me to do Wednesday service.

00:04:27.380 So it's such a blessing, you know, to, uh, they, they allowed me on their, their, they have a huge platform, you know,

00:04:32.840 so to allow me to do that on their platform, which was mostly conspiracy people.

00:04:37.900 Uh, it is such a blessing, man.

00:04:39.540 I, I, uh, I really enjoy it.

00:04:40.920 And it really assists me in my life, you know, a hundred percent going to the Bible two days a week and then other two days a week.

00:04:47.940 Go ahead.

00:04:48.080 Uh, especially right now, it's a, it's a weird time, you know what I mean?

00:04:50.960 And, and a lot of people, we talk about it often.

00:04:52.920 It's like ever since the lockdowns, people have really gotten cued into the idea that there's a spiritual realm and that's a great realization.

00:05:00.400 Um, but with that comes a lot of like nuance about this spiritual realm, you know, and, and in my opinion, the Bible does the best job at it.

00:05:07.840 So this is something that people need right now.

00:05:09.740 Uh, I, I'm always a big fan of when people are doing kind of Bible studies.

00:05:12.660 I tried one time, I'm just a terrible reader.

00:05:14.920 It turns out, um, I wanted to try to learn alongside the audience and, and go through the Bible.

00:05:19.740 And, uh, and instead I realized that I was subjecting them to hell, which is listening to me read a book.

00:05:25.720 Uh, it's, it's really a painful process for people.

00:05:28.060 So, uh, but hats off to you.

00:05:29.900 Very, very cool content that you're making over there.

00:05:32.360 Moses actually had a speech impediment, right?

00:05:34.520 So he, he, he thought he wasn't chosen either.

00:05:36.700 So you might want to pray about it and then, uh, God might be choosing you to do that.

00:05:42.060 And you might be, you might be denying it, even though you might be very talented at it and you're just thinking in your own head.

00:05:46.980 So you might be able to do it, man.

00:05:48.800 Just, uh, that's all you got to do is just ask God for, uh, you know, for the talent, man.

00:05:54.380 Yeah, well, there is something, there's something to say about like, uh, I feel like there was a block and I don't want to be the, like the, the guy that goes like this was, there was a demonic block because I couldn't read, couldn't read the Bible.

00:06:09.340 But there, there was, there was a demonic block because it was hard to read the Bible because I found it boring.

00:06:15.680 I found the old Testament.

00:06:16.880 I was like, this is whack.

00:06:18.160 I don't want to even look at this.

00:06:19.920 And then it turns out like, like I'm, I'm discovering like, no, no, this is the best book in the world.

00:06:24.960 Like what was wrong with me?

00:06:26.500 You know what happened to me when I was trying to do the read?

00:06:28.340 It's actually very embarrassing.

00:06:30.040 Uh, so, so I, I don't know what it is.

00:06:32.660 I'm, I'm trying to rationalize it right in any other way besides what you just said at the top, which is demons.

00:06:38.480 Uh, but I'm like, maybe it's because I'm looking down and I never look like that, but I'm like, I look at my fucking, my phone all day long.

00:06:44.880 And, and that doesn't, and I started getting nauseous.

00:06:47.720 Like I had to, I kept, I kept telling the chat, I was like, I got to take breaks because I'm getting like nauseous or, or lightheaded or nauseous.

00:06:55.360 I don't know.

00:06:55.700 It was weird.

00:06:56.200 It was, it was maybe three times that I tried to do it.

00:06:59.100 And then, uh, after that, I was like, I guess I need the audio book because if I look down and try to read, I've had or it's demons.

00:07:05.780 Could well be demons.

00:07:06.880 Wow.

00:07:07.300 That's what you could do is you could share the screen and, uh, you could go to the Bible hub or Bible app.

00:07:12.420 And then, uh, you could just read it off the screen as you're, as you're teaching.

00:07:15.880 Yeah.

00:07:16.340 That's why I guess, cause I have a couple of physical Bibles right next to me.

00:07:20.360 I felt like I needed to read the book sitting in front of a perfectly good monitor.

00:07:24.000 Could have, could have, uh, figured that a different way.

00:07:26.320 But yeah, that was a, yeah, I never told you about that.

00:07:28.460 Cause I was like that.

00:07:29.020 It made me feel bad.

00:07:29.800 I didn't like the way that made me feel.

00:07:31.040 I was like, why am I getting nauseous and dizzy when I'm trying to read the Bible?

00:07:33.760 But I don't know.

00:07:34.980 I never, ever, ever try to read under any other context, mostly because I can't.

00:07:38.680 So I don't know if it's just the Bible or if it's all things.

00:07:41.320 Like if I picked up a Goosebumps book, is that still going to happen?

00:07:44.140 That was when we first started the show, right?

00:07:45.860 I remember you doing that.

00:07:47.540 It was like a couple months in.

00:07:48.960 Sort of.

00:07:49.420 I was doing, uh, it was doing it for the Patreon members, I think.

00:07:53.020 So it was at least when we had Patreon, um, you know, when we, when we got Patreon up and

00:07:57.400 running, but yeah, it was, it was weird.

00:07:58.680 I tried and, you know, uh, whatever the heck happened there, happened there.

00:08:02.960 But, uh, as far as this, this conversation is, is concerned today, Josh, we were talking before

00:08:07.600 we started the show about the idea of biblical cosmology, which is something that we've,

00:08:11.320 touched on, uh, here and again with, uh, Ed Mabry, you know, mentions of the Maseroth

00:08:16.280 and God's story and the stars.

00:08:17.940 Um, but I'm really eager to expand on that concept because of course, I don't know if

00:08:23.420 it's astrology or astronomy.

00:08:24.380 I guess astronomy is the actual scientific study of the stars.

00:08:27.180 Astrology is the sort of pseudo, uh, your personality traits are beholden to the star systems

00:08:33.840 that you were born under type of deal.

00:08:35.860 Um, but that gets thrown out in a huge way.

00:08:38.780 And some people go so far as to say, like reading the stars or anything like that is

00:08:43.520 a negative thing.

00:08:44.120 But I think that these darker forces, these fallen, they can't create, they can only invert

00:08:51.640 and pervert God's creation and God put the stars there.

00:08:54.860 So obviously that's the starting point, right?

00:08:56.700 Is like stars and, and the, and the symbols and signs in the stars are not inherently demonic,

00:09:02.140 but I think it's all about the interpretation and it's all about, um, the tools that you

00:09:06.300 use to understand them.

00:09:07.840 So I'm eager to get into this conversation with you, Josh, where do you want to start,

00:09:11.260 uh, on that topic?

00:09:11.940 Well, this, this is more about the actual creation itself and what I believe was created.

00:09:16.720 Uh, so it's, it's, it gets interesting and, you know, some people might, uh, be turned

00:09:21.560 off to, to, uh, to flat earth or stuff or something like that.

00:09:24.820 But I, what I call biblical cosmology would be, would be flatter from a biblical perspective,

00:09:29.700 or I will also expand on if you do believe in a globe with, with geocentricity, or I don't,

00:09:36.100 I don't believe the Bible teaches any kind of helocentricity at all, but that's what I was

00:09:40.020 going to do.

00:09:40.260 Just kind of go over the creation, uh, starting from, uh, what I like to do first is, is kind

00:09:45.840 of get a few verses out of the way.

00:09:47.060 So people understand, uh, you know, to take how, how I actually perceived the Bible.

00:09:51.160 Right.

00:09:51.540 So first off, I'd go to Proverbs 35 through six.

00:09:54.600 It says, every word of God is pure.

00:09:56.420 He is a shield to those who put their trust in him.

00:09:58.640 Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.

00:10:02.760 Right.

00:10:03.240 So also we have Deuteronomy four, two, you shall not add to the word, which I command you.

00:10:07.880 So he's telling you, do not take the, the, the words and add to it.

00:10:12.080 You don't, you don't need to, to add to the Bible.

00:10:14.040 God already, his word is already pure.

00:10:15.920 Right.

00:10:16.280 And, um, also I would, I would go to, uh, Titus one, two, which says, uh, it's, it says

00:10:21.460 God cannot lie.

00:10:22.640 And then if you go to, um, if you go to a Hebrew six 18, it says it's impossible for

00:10:28.560 God to lie.

00:10:29.560 Right.

00:10:30.000 So we need to understand that.

00:10:31.400 And the reason why that's so important is because if you go to, you know, the book of

00:10:36.360 Genesis is written by Moses, right?

00:10:37.980 So when you go to, you know, Moses, he's getting a firsthand account from the most high.

00:10:42.380 And in the, and in, uh, numbers 12 versus four through eight, it says that God speaks

00:10:46.740 to spoke to Moses face to face in the new King James.

00:10:49.740 It says that in the, in the King James, it says actually mouth to mouth.

00:10:53.780 Right.

00:10:54.140 So when Moses got Genesis or the creation story, all of that has to be a firsthand account

00:11:00.760 from God.

00:11:01.820 The reason why I say that is because how was he going to know what the devil said to Adam

00:11:06.900 in the garden?

00:11:07.760 Right.

00:11:08.280 If Moses was not there, right.

00:11:09.940 How is he going to know what Joseph said?

00:11:11.960 Uh, you know, how's he going to know what, um, you know, what Isaac said to, uh, to Rachel,

00:11:17.300 how's he going to know any of this intimate details about those scenarios?

00:11:21.740 If those were not firsthand account from God.

00:11:24.320 Right.

00:11:24.680 So, um, and obviously the most important part that we're talking about today is going to

00:11:28.720 be the creation.

00:11:29.580 And obviously we know that no man was alive or there at the time of creation.

00:11:34.720 Right.

00:11:35.080 So, uh, when Moses is talking about the creation from day one to day six, uh, you know, day

00:11:40.800 seven, obviously he rested.

00:11:41.940 This is actually a firsthand account from God.

00:11:44.500 And the only one that was there, uh, if you believe in the Trinity, like I do, you know,

00:11:48.900 it would be, would be God.

00:11:50.320 And then, uh, Jesus, which God created through him, which is the word.

00:11:54.040 And then the Holy spirit that was hovering over the water.

00:11:56.460 Right.

00:11:56.740 So that's the only, the only place I'm going to take anything about creation personally

00:12:01.880 as a Christian is going to be from God and from the Bible.

00:12:05.420 I'm not going to take man's word for it.

00:12:07.960 Obviously I'm not going to take a scientist's word for it, obviously, because they've only

00:12:12.440 lived on the earth for 60 years.

00:12:14.260 And if you go to the book of Job, uh, 38, what happens is when somebody tries to act like

00:12:21.460 they know more than God, like the scientists do, God immediately goes to cosmology.

00:12:26.000 And says, where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?

00:12:29.940 So it is an important thing.

00:12:31.480 And it's something I like to, uh, to talk about and get into, right?

00:12:36.180 So we have that.

00:12:37.580 And then, uh, you guys can interject anytime that you like, like you guys said, you guys

00:12:41.260 would.

00:12:41.720 Um, but there's just a few things, like I said, I'd like to go over first.

00:12:44.960 Uh, also, um, faith cometh by hearing and, uh, hearing by the word of God.

00:12:49.600 That's Roman 10 17.

00:12:51.420 So, uh, faith is built by hearing the word of God.

00:12:54.860 Right.

00:12:55.640 And then, uh, what kind of faith is being produced?

00:12:58.180 You know, if you hear the word of God yet, you do not believe it.

00:13:00.900 Right.

00:13:01.260 It's, it's, it's, it's something that devil would likes to attack.

00:13:04.160 Right.

00:13:04.460 Is, uh, uh, just like when you were reading the Bible, maybe you were being attacked.

00:13:08.220 Right.

00:13:08.460 Because when you, when you read the word of God to people and they hear it, that's how

00:13:12.380 they build faith.

00:13:13.200 Right.

00:13:13.440 So we have that.

00:13:14.660 And then, uh, Hebrews 11, six, another one, it says it is impossible to please God without

00:13:19.880 faith.

00:13:20.460 All right.

00:13:21.000 So that's going to be the main thing that God attacks.

00:13:23.780 I mean, not God attacks, the devil attacks, right.

00:13:25.780 It's going to be your faith.

00:13:27.000 Right.

00:13:27.420 Cause it, it actually, um, I guess it's impossible to please God without it.

00:13:32.360 So what I believe happens is we know with, uh, the big bang, the, the big bang theory,

00:13:38.580 uh, evolution, and I even believe heliocentricity, uh, which I believe is like the scientific

00:13:45.080 Trinity is it, it is made and created for you to pick up the Bible and, uh, and read

00:13:53.040 it and, and think, well, you know, I've been taught in school, all these different things,

00:13:56.780 you know, throughout college.

00:13:58.360 And then now I pick up the word of God and I read Genesis.

00:14:01.260 And then you just think it's, it has to be allegorical or something.

00:14:06.640 Right.

00:14:06.920 Because it doesn't line up with anything you've been taught in school.

00:14:11.580 Right.

00:14:12.280 Let me, let me ask you this, Josh.

00:14:14.120 Um, what do you make of Christians?

00:14:16.060 Hopefully I'm not breaking up.

00:14:17.660 Uh, you are breaking up a little bit, but that, I think it's all right.

00:14:19.860 Just give it a second.

00:14:20.660 Um, I wanted to ask you, what do you think of Christians who, uh, they, they take the

00:14:25.360 theory of the big bang and they incorporate it into their view of, you know, Christianity

00:14:28.900 and their worldview and their understanding of God.

00:14:30.720 And they'll say things like, um, I believe in the big bang because science says the big

00:14:35.780 bang is real and we could observe this ever expanding universe, which suggests if you

00:14:39.940 rewind it, it would be ever contracting.

00:14:42.160 Um, therefore it consolidates into the single pin, but God is, is who kicked it off.

00:14:47.800 And, and I don't know, is it, is, it doesn't seem like there's much of a, a descriptive that

00:14:53.700 matches up with the big bang in the Bible in Genesis?

00:15:00.300 I would say, uh, well, 13.8 billion years doesn't match up with the Bible whatsoever.

00:15:04.980 The Bible is more of like 6,600 years, right?

00:15:07.560 So, uh, also what they say with the big bang theory is that the, the stars came first and

00:15:14.060 then the sun at 4.6 billion years ago, and then the earth 4.5 billion years ago.

00:15:19.800 But when you go into the Bible, what was created first, it says that the earth was created first.

00:15:24.680 Uh, the earth was created.

00:15:26.300 I would say it says, and it says God created the heavens and the earth, uh, in the very

00:15:30.700 beginning.

00:15:31.060 Right.

00:15:31.520 And then, uh, on, on day three, God, God created the continents, uh, the dry land and vegetation

00:15:37.060 and the seas, which are the oceans.

00:15:39.580 And then it wasn't until day four, God created the sun, the moon, sun, and the stars also.

00:15:45.040 So it's already, uh, inverted when you, when you go to the big bang theory already, because

00:15:51.760 what they do is they need the sun for, they need the stars first, right?

00:15:55.980 Uh, 13.6 billion years ago.

00:15:57.860 And then the 4.6 billion years ago, they need the sun because it's supposed to be this gigantic

00:16:02.340 object.

00:16:03.200 And then they need the earth to be orbiting it.

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00:16:21.240 But the Bible is not talking about that whatsoever.

00:16:24.580 The Bible says that God created the earth first, right?

00:16:27.540 And then he created the moon, sun, and the stars on day four.

00:16:30.260 So it is inverted.

00:16:31.500 So if you are a Christian that believes in the big bang theory, you're actually believing

00:16:35.400 in an inverted creation.

00:16:37.560 So we need to pay attention to the details as well, right?

00:16:41.680 Isn't it?

00:16:41.960 It's almost like saying like, yeah, I believe in, in God creating the universe, but I just

00:16:46.600 believe the Bible has it like backwards.

00:16:48.340 That's not how it happened.

00:16:50.080 Right?

00:16:50.340 So it's a, that's a weird thing.

00:16:51.720 It's a coping.

00:16:52.360 It's, it's mental gymnastics in very many ways.

00:16:54.360 It's like either you believe it or you don't, but instead you've adopted some like pseudo version

00:16:58.740 of it where everything happens in reverse.

00:17:00.720 You're filtering science through the Bible.

00:17:03.980 And if it's not working out, what they're doing is they're filtering the Bible through

00:17:07.480 science.

00:17:08.040 And if it doesn't line up, they're taking the Bible and throwing out.

00:17:11.340 But what I'm telling you is like Proverbs three success, don't add to the word of God.

00:17:17.200 What I'm telling you is to take science and filter it through the Bible.

00:17:20.600 And if it's not true, then throw the science out.

00:17:23.660 Oh no.

00:17:24.360 Well, that's the reason why is because the science that's called science nowadays, most

00:17:29.900 of it is theoretical and it's not proven facts.

00:17:33.100 Right?

00:17:33.440 So for me, the Bible is true.

00:17:35.500 Like it says, God's word is true and it's pure, but, but science to me is tainted.

00:17:40.620 So I just have a different view.

00:17:42.360 If you guys don't believe like that, it's okay.

00:17:45.020 But that's just the way I look at life because I know that God was actually there during creation

00:17:49.400 and he is the one that created it.

00:17:51.360 Now, if you're an atheist, I don't expect you to believe the Bible at all.

00:17:55.280 And if you're somebody that is lukewarm or don't believe the Bible a hundred percent,

00:18:00.940 I understand it still takes time to, to learn, you know, before you fully grasp it.

00:18:07.660 But what I'd say is God's word is pure and he's the one that actually created the heavens

00:18:12.120 and the earth.

00:18:12.600 So we need to take what he says and, and, and believe that over what man says, you know?

00:18:18.400 Um, well, I mean, most, uh, I guess, I feel like it's breaking up for Sims and I apologize.

00:18:25.040 Guess if you, if you want Josh, uh, you could always just try to refresh the browser.

00:18:29.660 Sometimes we run into this issue.

00:18:30.800 It's been happening, uh, rather frequently lately.

00:18:33.460 Um, and we have some success when people refresh their, their browser.

00:18:37.000 So if you want to go ahead and do that and we'll keep the conversation going, keep it warm

00:18:40.160 till you come back.

00:18:41.400 Um, what were you saying top?

00:18:43.300 I was going to say that, you know, most Christians miss this anyway.

00:18:45.840 Like, uh, what he's talking about, kind of looking at like, all right, what does the

00:18:49.620 Bible say?

00:18:50.800 And then what is happening and what is correct?

00:18:53.840 And yeah, that's okay.

00:18:56.460 Yeah.

00:18:56.660 That'll happen.

00:18:57.360 Yeah.

00:18:57.780 But we'll bring you back on.

00:18:58.940 There you go.

00:18:59.480 Your, your video quality is, uh, increased as well.

00:19:01.860 So, so one of the big things is like, I don't know, just a modern day Christian, something

00:19:06.220 that most myths that are within the church is like, uh, the idea of Israel, what it is.

00:19:12.320 Um, not just that, but Judaism and what, uh, current Judaism is and what it believes and

00:19:18.640 that it's not compatible with Christianity.

00:19:20.340 But for some reason they just can't, they can't look at the Bible first.

00:19:24.380 Well, look at just the entire Bible, look at the new Testament about everything that

00:19:27.340 Jesus taught here and not to, it's not an anti-Semitic statement or anything, but it's,

00:19:32.240 I think people need to come to the realization that yes.

00:19:35.280 All right.

00:19:35.480 So one, the big bang does not fit within the biblical narrative.

00:19:38.820 So it needs to be discarded.

00:19:40.560 Judaism does not fit within the entire biblical narrative needs to be discarded.

00:19:44.340 That's not your, uh, greatest ally.

00:19:46.120 This is a something separate, something different.

00:19:48.760 It's created an inner response to inner response against, I would even go as far as saying, but

00:19:55.040 you know, people miss it and it is what it is.

00:19:57.940 And here we are.

00:19:58.820 Well, on, on the topic of things that people, uh, have adopted as models and maybe should

00:20:05.440 get rid of within the Bible, Josh, do you believe that there is, uh, clear and concise

00:20:11.720 information that points to, uh, flat earth?

00:20:15.660 Uh, yeah, yeah, that, that's what I'm going to go over.

00:20:17.940 What I'll go over was, is what science says, which we kind of went over a little bit so far.

00:20:21.360 And then I'll tell you guys what the Bible says.

00:20:23.120 Um, first off, uh, I was going to say something, uh, G and Jesus also in, in, in John 5 45

00:20:28.780 says, if you don't, if you do not believe the words of Moses, you will not believe my

00:20:32.640 words just, just so people know.

00:20:34.200 So that also, that's, that's not what I'm saying.

00:20:37.800 Cause I know, I know, I know you're not, I know you're not, I'm just saying for the

00:20:41.120 cosmology aspect of it, you know, like Jesus also points to that, but yeah, I know what

00:20:45.640 you mean.

00:20:45.880 Like, uh, I definitely know what you're under, understand what you're, what you're saying,

00:20:49.240 but go ahead, go ahead.

00:20:49.760 What were you going to say?

00:20:50.620 Continue.

00:20:51.520 Oh, no, just to clarify.

00:20:52.400 Oh yeah.

00:20:52.620 What I was, I'm, I'm talking about the Mishnah and the, and the Talmud.

00:20:56.000 I'm not talking about the Torah, which are the original books of the Bible.

00:20:58.960 These things are, you know, they have nothing to do with what we're doing here, but that

00:21:02.860 it's just another conversation that we had the Talmud.

00:21:06.500 The Talmud is just, is, is, is, is, is man.

00:21:10.260 Uh, also, uh, let me pull out my version of the Talmud.

00:21:15.740 He's like, speaking of the Talmud.

00:21:19.260 Yeah.

00:21:19.620 Uh, I, I, I, I do.

00:21:21.500 Yeah.

00:21:21.840 All right.

00:21:22.200 There we go.

00:21:23.200 All right.

00:21:23.480 Yeah.

00:21:23.880 Perfect.

00:21:24.280 Yeah.

00:21:24.560 That's, it's just, yeah.

00:21:25.640 The Talmud is like literally man trying to commentate the Bible and create their own

00:21:29.760 idea of what God was saying.

00:21:31.700 Yeah.

00:21:31.840 So I agree with you, bro.

00:21:32.880 A hundred percent about that.

00:21:35.260 So what information then Josh points to, cause I know that there, you know, there's, there's

00:21:40.660 a God show with his handiwork in the firmament and there's quite a bit about the descriptive

00:21:45.120 of the firmament, uh, you know, and, and then that becomes a challenge because even if you

00:21:48.980 don't believe that we live on a flat plane, you're still getting a descriptive of some

00:21:54.720 sort of a dome, some sort of separation of waters above from waters below.

00:21:59.220 Um, and you know, it's funny because we do spend a lot of time humanity, I guess.

00:22:03.540 And, and I don't think that, I don't know if it's wrong, but it's like science is just

00:22:07.400 the pursuit of trying to understand the realm that you're in.

00:22:09.800 I think if, if you pay attention, you will find that over time science, uh, confirms the

00:22:15.820 Bible and it happens over and over again.

00:22:17.480 And there's like things that we suspected that took place historically that the Bible

00:22:21.140 talks about, you know, like, let's say the, the flood, for example.

00:22:24.260 And if you look around now, there's all sorts of, you know, the, the weathering on the Sphinx

00:22:29.120 or whatever, this Graham Hancock ancient apocalypse, uh, sort of narrative that's going around.

00:22:33.200 And everybody seems pretty comfortable with the idea that there was some sort of massive

00:22:38.360 flood and, and it, there seems to be evidence of it across various, um, uh, cultures as well

00:22:44.380 that are separated by, you know, great distances, oceans and such.

00:22:47.480 Um, and they're all explaining the same sort of flood mythos.

00:22:51.600 And then you go, okay, well, it seems like the Bible or, or even, uh, I believe they found,

00:22:55.620 uh, Noah's Ark recently on, on a peak in a mountain range.

00:23:01.100 Uh, what was the mountain range called?

00:23:02.460 Because the Bible actually says which mountain Noah's Ark settled on, but it turns out, is

00:23:09.560 it Arafat?

00:23:10.200 Am I, am I just making up words here?

00:23:11.760 Mount Arafat.

00:23:12.380 It's, it's, I think it sounds, it sounds like Mount Arafat.

00:23:15.100 That's exactly what I was thinking in my head.

00:23:16.560 So, yeah, but there is, um, Mount Arafat and then there, there are the mountains surrounding

00:23:23.080 Arafat.

00:23:24.320 And so there is one in particular that is called Mount Arafat, but then there, there is

00:23:28.780 a mountain range, you know, that, that is described that way as well.

00:23:32.120 They found the Ark there.

00:23:33.660 It's, it's there.

00:23:34.380 Uh, there was a mudslide recently and it, um, it revealed a lot more of what they suspected

00:23:39.980 was the Ark, but it was, it was, uh, buried and, and, you know, it was unretrievable at

00:23:44.380 the time, but there is a, uh, a mudslide that takes place.

00:23:47.840 And all of a sudden the mast Ararat, I said, I said Arafat.

00:23:51.700 Oh, Ararat.

00:23:52.900 There you go.

00:23:53.540 Yep.

00:23:53.740 Not Ararat.

00:23:54.820 Um, but there was a, there was a, a stern, I think that was like partially visible.

00:23:59.900 And now the entire thing is visible.

00:24:01.540 It's definitively, uh, a gigantic ship that fits all the dimensions that were described

00:24:06.300 in the Bible.

00:24:06.780 And also is on the top of a mountain, which you have a pretty hard time explaining how

00:24:11.340 a ship got on the top of the mountain.

00:24:12.520 If you don't have a gigantic flood.

00:24:14.580 So we go through this where it's like over and over again, the Bible does get confirmed.

00:24:18.960 I'm wondering if, if we are at the cusp of like a big flat earth confirmation.

00:24:24.200 Cause you know, we just had that, like the final, uh, experiment and I didn't really follow

00:24:30.160 that bro.

00:24:31.080 I was, I came in fourth on, uh, on the, there was a thing called the golden ticket for, uh,

00:24:36.300 that Will Duffy through and I came in fourth place.

00:24:38.640 Oh, that damn.

00:24:39.320 You were close.

00:24:40.140 Fourth place.

00:24:40.960 Yeah.

00:24:41.320 I was very close going.

00:24:42.540 Yeah.

00:24:43.140 And Will, I have Will on my show too.

00:24:44.640 And I talked to Jaren, uh, as well.

00:24:47.260 Not Witsit so much.

00:24:48.020 I haven't talked to him at all for some reason.

00:24:49.420 We were going to have Witsit on and then I don't know, I don't know what's, what's

00:24:52.420 happened.

00:24:52.760 Like I, I, I didn't pay attention to that to the extent that I can see people on Twitter

00:24:57.500 and just in this kind of content creation realm are displeased, I guess.

00:25:02.940 And, and, you know, there's a lot of accusations of this person's a shill.

00:25:05.780 That person's a shill.

00:25:06.780 I don't really know what happened there.

00:25:09.060 Um, but to me, it's significant how much flat earth has become part of the conversation

00:25:15.660 lately.

00:25:16.000 And then there, there is a lot in the Bible that confirms it.

00:25:19.100 Um, but to what extent, you know, is it, is it just the, the, the things that we're

00:25:23.780 peripherally aware of, which is the description of the firmament and things like that?

00:25:27.260 Or is there more?

00:25:29.380 There's a, there's, there's a lot to it.

00:25:31.220 You know, like I, I'll, I'll go over first.

00:25:33.460 Like, like science says that we're obviously we're spinning at a thousand miles an hour

00:25:36.620 is what they say, right.

00:25:37.460 At the equator.

00:25:38.440 Uh, they say that we're actually orbiting the sun at 66,000 miles an hour.

00:25:42.960 Uh, they say that the, that the moon is actually orbiting us at 2,600 miles an hour.

00:25:47.740 Uh, right.

00:25:48.960 And, um, and the fact, just to let you guys know, the fastest bullet actually travels

00:25:53.260 at 1,800 miles an hour.

00:25:54.600 So it's saying we're basically going 30 times faster than the fastest bullet orbiting the

00:25:59.680 sun.

00:25:59.960 Right.

00:26:00.260 And we feel none of it at all, which is very interesting.

00:26:03.760 I know some people say that we keep the same speed, but I mean, I can understand maybe the

00:26:08.060 thousand miles an hour with this giant earth, but the 66,600 miles an hour is, is for me

00:26:14.020 is very hard to, to, to grasp, but it's also, why is it six, six, six?

00:26:19.360 Like why, why, why is that?

00:26:20.920 That's how fast we're going is 66,600 miles.

00:26:24.160 Like, wow, that's a strange number to come to.

00:26:26.460 Yeah.

00:26:26.720 Okay.

00:26:26.980 At the end of this, actually, I could wrap it up and do a big boat and give you a whole

00:26:29.940 bunch of six, six, sixes that are in the scientific helocentric model.

00:26:33.000 But, um, yes.

00:26:33.940 And, and why would we have that?

00:26:35.260 Definitely.

00:26:35.680 And then, uh, also what I, what I was going to say is, um, when it's time to play, it's easy

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00:26:54.320 You know, if, uh, there's, that's not the only movement.

00:26:57.200 Also, the sun is traveling at 450,000 miles an hour and we're actually chasing the sun

00:27:01.440 through, uh, the universe.

00:27:03.340 Right.

00:27:03.740 So, uh, that's also a giant number.

00:27:06.280 So when, you know, those, those types of, of, of things, you know, the Bible is not talking

00:27:11.480 about the earth, uh, orbiting the sun whatsoever.

00:27:14.540 Um, I could, I could go into it, but, um, I'll go over a few more things.

00:27:18.180 So you guys understand the, the, how, how huge they'd made the universe compared to, uh,

00:27:23.800 what, what I think the Bible is describing, uh, like the closest star, for example, it's

00:27:28.460 Alpha Centauri.

00:27:29.480 It's 4.4 light years away.

00:27:31.520 That doesn't sound like a lot because they only give us it in light years, but what is a light

00:27:35.260 year?

00:27:35.400 A light year is actually 6 trillion miles.

00:27:37.740 So you actually have to take 6 trillion times it by 4.4.

00:27:40.940 So the closest star is 24 trillion miles away.

00:27:44.140 The closest one.

00:27:45.460 There's some, as far as, you know, 1 million light years away.

00:27:49.740 And we're able to see it with these little beady eyes looking up in the sky, which I think

00:27:54.660 is, is, is very interesting.

00:27:56.100 You know, isn't it funny that they've managed to do that with materialism in the scientific

00:28:00.680 community came along and they said that the Bible and supernatural concepts are pseudoscience.

00:28:04.960 None of this is real.

00:28:05.820 These are fantasies.

00:28:06.580 These are allegories.

00:28:07.440 These are just ways of maintaining stories and traditions, uh, you know, over time.

00:28:11.680 Um, and, and then they give us the most insane models where they're like, yeah, shit was the

00:28:17.200 size of the head of a pin.

00:28:18.800 And everything that you see bursts out of that for no discernible reason whatsoever.

00:28:23.080 Also, we are catapulting through outer space in, in no particular direction.

00:28:28.080 We don't know where we're going, but we're going there at 66,666 miles per hour.

00:28:33.080 Like they've given us all the most insane shit while telling us that the Bible is insane.

00:28:38.060 It's, it's, it's fascinating.

00:28:39.400 It, I think it definitely is for sure.

00:28:42.140 And even Copernicus himself, you know, like, uh, if you look into him, you know, well, first

00:28:47.260 of all, evolution came from a 33 degree Mason, which is, um, which is going to be Charles

00:28:51.900 Darwin's grandfather, right?

00:28:53.280 He's a 33 degree Mason handed evolution to Charles Darwin.

00:28:56.480 So that kind of takes care of that person.

00:28:57.900 And then the big bang came from George Lamontri, which is like a, a Belgian cosmologist, Catholic

00:29:02.900 priest, Jesuit trained.

00:29:04.260 Uh, so we have a free Mason with evolution.

00:29:06.700 Now we have a Jesuit with, uh, with the big bang theory.

00:29:10.080 Now we go to the heliocentric model, which is Copernicus.

00:29:13.280 And even in his own writings, he's talking about in the middle of the sun sits, uh, in

00:29:18.020 the middle sits the sun and thrown in the most beautiful temple.

00:29:21.580 Could we place this luminary at any better position, which can illuminate the whole, uh, whole

00:29:26.320 at once it says he is rightly called the lamp.

00:29:29.820 Okay.

00:29:30.280 Who else is called the lamp?

00:29:31.540 Well, if you go to revelation, Jesus is called the lamp, you know, when there's a new heaven

00:29:35.500 and a new earth.

00:29:36.420 So he's actually comparing the sun to Jesus, right?

00:29:40.540 So we have him saying that.

00:29:41.860 And he says, um, the mind of the ruler of universe, Hermes transgresses, uh, names him

00:29:46.940 the visible God, right?

00:29:48.900 Uh, it says, uh, so feel this electric calls him the all seeing.

00:29:52.840 So the sun sits upon a Royal throne ruling his children.

00:29:55.960 The planets would circle around him.

00:29:58.440 Okay.

00:29:58.960 So he's actually calling the sun a him and he's actually calling it like in a temple as

00:30:04.400 if the sun is what, like the sun is a God.

00:30:06.960 All right.

00:30:07.420 And it's saying that the, the earth has the moon at her service.

00:30:11.540 Uh, as Aristotle says in his own animals, the moon has the closest relationship to the

00:30:15.200 earth.

00:30:15.420 Meanwhile, the earth concedes by the sun and becomes pregnant by an annual rebirth.

00:30:19.260 So he is actually speaking like, as if the sun is a God in a temple and everything needs

00:30:25.640 the sun.

00:30:26.380 Right.

00:30:26.960 And that goes back to Babylonian times.

00:30:29.480 It goes back to Egypt.

00:30:30.360 That goes back to Apollo.

00:30:31.600 That goes back to, uh, uh, you know, Rome, uh, Nimrod, all that stuff is all sun worship.

00:30:37.160 So it's the same exact thing packaged to the public in a way that when they, when they say

00:30:43.360 it's scientific.

00:30:44.520 And, uh, when you get, when you dig deeper, you're finding a cult, uh, a cult teachings

00:30:50.700 throughout.

00:30:51.960 And, uh, even though the people right now, if they say that they're atheists, they believe

00:30:55.680 in naturalism and they, they don't understand that there's a cult backing to all this information,

00:31:00.080 you know?

00:31:00.440 So not saying I discovered something great here.

00:31:03.180 Like, it's just, it's, this is, this is from different people's research and things that

00:31:06.680 I've, that I've studied, but it's just, when you go back to the people that actually came

00:31:10.940 up with the models, they're actually, there's, there's a cult behind it, you know?

00:31:14.660 So I would just say that that is the reason why you hear, uh, Roman gods.

00:31:20.520 Uh, that's why the planets are called Roman gods.

00:31:23.020 And in the Bible, they're called wandering stars.

00:31:25.600 And so the reason why is because the wandering stars are disobeying what God's orders are.

00:31:29.520 God's orders are what the normal luminaries do.

00:31:32.360 And the planets are the wandering stars, which are going to be judged.

00:31:35.740 It says that in the book of Jude are actually called, uh, Saturn and Jupiter and Neptune,

00:31:41.120 which are what those are all gods.

00:31:43.420 Okay.

00:31:43.860 So there's a reason for it.

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00:32:39.800 Um, Josh, one of the things that you stepped on there that I find fascinating is you talked

00:32:45.240 about atheists for a moment and you said that, you know, they, they believe in science.

00:32:49.580 They don't believe in religion.

00:32:50.520 Uh, but there is something about human beings that I've become very comfortable with.

00:32:55.060 And that is we are designed to, to worship when it's time to play.

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00:33:13.200 And, and we're, we're, we're made to worship.

00:33:16.600 And if we think we are not worshiping something, we're mistaken, right?

00:33:21.660 So you have science, which has become its very own church.

00:33:24.680 It's very own religion, um, the religion of science, right?

00:33:27.800 And then of course you have what goes a little bit further that allows you to experience some

00:33:32.720 supernatural while, while not being ridiculed by the scientific community.

00:33:35.920 Where does that take place?

00:33:37.720 Sci-fi, which is a weird thing because it's often like a revelation of the method.

00:33:41.320 They're showing you concepts, ideas, technologies.

00:33:44.520 Um, and then you later on find out that, yeah, there's a basis for those ideas.

00:33:48.920 And that is the occult.

00:33:50.460 It's esoteria, right?

00:33:51.460 So, um, atheists, it's, it's, it's a funny thing to say that you don't worship.

00:33:56.060 You're not religious because those people oftentimes will have all of their walls covered in, you

00:34:00.580 know, all the Star Wars lore, which of course, all of the good stories, uh, Lord of the Rings,

00:34:05.160 Star Wars, all these things that they freak out about, they're all pulled from biblical

00:34:08.640 concepts.

00:34:09.160 That's why they resonate with you.

00:34:10.500 Uh, so it's, it's just fascinating because I don't think that there was a time in history,

00:34:16.340 probably in the nineties, it was much more popular where atheism was considered some sort

00:34:20.240 of an intellectual status.

00:34:22.040 If you were atheist, that meant that you were materialistic.

00:34:24.640 It meant that you were thinking you were a critical thinker.

00:34:27.200 You enjoyed science.

00:34:28.580 You weren't prone to flights of fancy.

00:34:30.820 Uh, now I realized that atheists were never that smart because they overlooked something

00:34:36.660 tremendously obvious about the human condition, which is there is no such thing as being atheist.

00:34:42.780 You will worship something.

00:34:45.200 Yes.

00:34:45.420 And, and it becomes an idol because they will fight to their death that the naturalist, uh, uh, thing is true, which, which a lot of it is pseudo science.

00:34:54.940 You know, it's not, it's not like proven science.

00:34:57.600 1 million percent.

00:34:58.380 It's like, it's not something you should put your flag on, you know?

00:35:00.300 But, um, yeah, I agree, bro.

00:35:02.320 And it, and it's definitely a religion no matter what people think, but, uh, yeah, so we'll go, we'll go over the days real quick, what the Bible teaches real fast.

00:35:09.020 Okay.

00:35:09.220 So I told you guys day one in the beginning, Elohim created the Shammaiim and the Eret, which is, uh, the heavens and the earth.

00:35:15.300 The earth was out form and void and darkness upon the face of the deep.

00:35:18.180 And then the spirit hovered over the face of the waters.

00:35:20.640 And then it says, uh, day two, you know, God said, let there be a firmament, right?

00:35:25.620 When he says, let there be, that means exist.

00:35:27.300 Exist.

00:35:28.160 Okay.

00:35:28.500 So that means when he says, it says, said, let there be, it's like God saying exist firmament.

00:35:34.700 Okay.

00:35:35.100 So the firmament, uh, the, the, the Hebrew root word is, uh, rakia, right?

00:35:40.080 And it's extended surface, solid expanse and expat flat, flat as base support, uh, firmament, a vault of heaven, supporting the waters above considered by Hebrews as solid and supporting waters above.

00:35:53.100 So the Hebrews being who?

00:35:54.920 Well, the Hebrews being, uh, you know, Isaiah.

00:35:57.720 Uh, uh, Isaac, uh, all the people that, that wrote that, that are in the Bible, the characters in the Bible, those are the Hebrews, the Hebrew Israelites.

00:36:05.840 Okay.

00:36:06.120 So Moses, uh, all, all the prophets, right.

00:36:09.420 And, um, they're considering the, the firmament to be solid, supporting the waters above because in Genesis, um, two, um, even if you go to like the CJB, which is the complete Jewish Bible.

00:36:22.500 Um, it says, God said, let there be a dome in the middle of the water.

00:36:26.500 Let it divide the water from the water.

00:36:28.820 God made the dome and divided the water under the dome from the water above the dome.

00:36:32.920 That is how it was.

00:36:34.080 And God called the dome sky, uh, in, in the, in the King James, it says God called the dome heaven or the firmament heaven.

00:36:42.480 Okay.

00:36:42.960 So in the Bible, you have three heavens.

00:36:46.480 The first heaven would be where the moon, sun, and the stars are located.

00:36:49.800 The second heaven would be the firmament.

00:36:52.080 That's the one that said God called the firmament heaven and the King James.

00:36:55.520 And then the third heaven would be where God's throne is located.

00:36:59.040 So I believe the Bible is describing God's throne being above the firmament.

00:37:03.140 That's in, uh, Ezekiel one 26, where it says that he was, he was brought up to the firmament.

00:37:08.280 And he said that he looked through the firmament and above the firmament, he saw a man, our likeness of a man on a throne.

00:37:15.680 So I believe he was brought to the firmament seeing God on the throne, right?

00:37:19.520 So we have that.

00:37:20.720 And then in day three, it says that God created the oceans, the dry land, the plants and vegetation.

00:37:26.960 So that means the continents are formed now.

00:37:29.680 So right now you have a firmament.

00:37:31.280 You have where the moon, sun, and the stars are going to be placed.

00:37:33.900 And then you have the dry land and vegetation, right?

00:37:36.860 Uh, and, and the oceans.

00:37:39.000 And then day four, that's when God created the moon, sun, and the stars.

00:37:43.360 Also, he said, he created the greater light to rule the day, lesser light to rule the night and the stars also.

00:37:49.760 Okay.

00:37:50.120 So the greater light to rule the day, the sun, lesser light to rule the night, the moon.

00:37:54.760 And he said he created two great lights, not one great light to, uh, to shine off the other.

00:37:59.740 He says two great lights, greater light to rule the day, lesser light to rule the night.

00:38:03.820 So God is describing in Genesis that the moon is a light.

00:38:07.800 The sun is a light.

00:38:08.960 He's not saying that the sun is shining off the moon to create the light.

00:38:12.780 Right, and to that point, Josh, haven't we recently had some sort of scientific development where there's a real consideration that the moon is its own luminary?

00:38:22.160 It's its own light source.

00:38:23.060 It produces something that I've heard described as, um, I forget what it is.

00:38:28.480 It's like, um, it's, it's a totally different light than what the sun puts off.

00:38:33.000 I want to say there's like words associated with it, like decay and things like that.

00:38:36.820 Okay.

00:38:37.080 Um, man, I forget what the terminology, it's going to really screw me up that I can't remember this, but either way, um, yeah, I mean, there's, there's a lot of people that are doing research right now.

00:38:45.760 It's like, no, it's not reflecting the sun's light.

00:38:47.640 This thing is producing its own light, which is, you know, how close are we now once again to scientifically proving, which is, you know, it just happens over and over again.

00:38:58.080 Take your phone, go outside at night and take a picture of the moon and then go take a picture of a light and then tell me it doesn't look exactly like that light.

00:39:05.540 Okay.

00:39:05.780 It definitely does.

00:39:06.740 Okay.

00:39:07.240 And, uh, I'm not saying that you can't land on it.

00:39:09.500 I have no idea.

00:39:10.360 And I know that the moon landing, if you, if you're a conspiratorial law, you have to dig into that.

00:39:15.060 And I'm not saying you can't land on it.

00:39:16.680 I just think it is a light for sure.

00:39:19.200 And, uh, but I don't believe in the moon landing either, but I'm just saying, I don't know if you can land on it or not, but, uh, okay, here's some other verses.

00:39:25.920 Okay.

00:39:26.240 So the Bible talks about, uh, the earth being fixed and immovable.

00:39:31.000 Okay.

00:39:31.340 That's another thing, right?

00:39:32.280 So, so far we have the order of creation.

00:39:34.960 The earth being first, the sun and the moon being, you know, on the fourth day.

00:39:39.460 Okay.

00:39:39.900 So that goes against science.

00:39:41.200 Here's another thing.

00:39:42.200 Okay.

00:39:42.440 So I have Zachariah one 11.

00:39:44.000 It says, and they answered the angel of the Lord that stood among the myrtle trees and said, we walk to and fro through the earth and behold all the earth sit it still and is at rest.

00:39:53.440 First Chronicles 1630.

00:39:55.240 Tremble before him, all the earth, the world is firmly established.

00:39:58.620 It shall not be moved.

00:40:00.420 Uh, and, and Psalms 93, one, the Lord reigns.

00:40:02.880 He is clothed with majesty.

00:40:04.000 The Lord is clothed and he has girded himself with strength.

00:40:06.060 Surely the world is established so that it cannot be moved.

00:40:08.860 Uh, Psalms 93, 10 also says that the, the, it says he shall, it says the world is also established.

00:40:15.220 It shall not be moved.

00:40:16.440 He shall judge the people righteously.

00:40:18.320 And then if you go to Psalms 104, five, it actually says, uh, you laid the foundations of the earth that it shall not be moved forever.

00:40:26.340 Okay.

00:40:26.780 So that is talking about the earth being fixed and immovable, right?

00:40:30.300 So, um, I don't believe that the earth is, is moving.

00:40:33.260 Um, now, uh, another thing we have is if you go to, if you do go to the Mormon Bible, uh, Heleman 12, four, it talks about, uh, let me make sure that that's correct.

00:40:44.420 I don't want to give you the wrong verse.

00:40:45.660 Uh, even though I don't want anybody to actually be reading the Mormon Bible, uh, Heleman, uh, 12, 15, uh, it does talk about the sun, uh, staying still and the earth orbiting it.

00:40:57.120 It's the only Bible you're going to find that in, which I believe, uh, what Joseph Smith did is he, he compromised for science and acted like his new revelation points to what science is pointing out.

00:41:10.200 Okay.

00:41:10.600 So, uh, I believe it, obviously I don't, I don't believe in the Mormon Bible, but I'm just telling you this.

00:41:15.400 It says, according to his word, the earth go with back and it appears unto man that the sun stand is still yet.

00:41:21.420 Behold, this is so for surely the earth that moveth and this, and not the sun, which he is still wrong.

00:41:26.520 Cause obviously they say the sun is moving 450,000 miles an hour, but I'm just telling you guys, the Holy Bible doesn't point to that.

00:41:33.460 The demonic, uh, Mormon Bible points to that heliocentricity, right?

00:41:38.260 So we have that.

00:41:39.560 All right.

00:41:39.900 So we have, I'd like to address this real quick too.

00:41:42.200 Uh, go ahead.

00:41:42.880 Yeah.

00:41:43.160 Uh, one of the homies in the chat, where did it go here?

00:41:45.580 Uh, Z man, he says, so when they say they have enough nukes to destroy the whole earth, it's a lie.

00:41:51.740 And then he says, just like the nukes.

00:41:53.140 But, uh, but I think that's a good point is like, yeah, without that foundation of like, uh, the earth is immovable forever.

00:42:00.600 If you remove that, it allows for a lot of, what would you call it?

00:42:05.720 Uh, um, sort of, uh, what do you call it?

00:42:10.340 Like a crisis of, of identification or something like that.

00:42:13.340 Like a lot of, um, fear of total annihilation, but, but you can't have that if you believe that the earth is immovable forever.

00:42:23.120 Uh, but you can, if you go, there's black holes out there, there's asteroids out there.

00:42:28.360 Uh, we have nuclear weapons that could destroy the entire planet.

00:42:31.240 And who knows what kind of calamity could take place at any moment because we are careening through outer space at, you know, 400 and something thousand miles per hour, whatever the hell the number is.

00:42:40.580 Uh, that opens up the door to a lot of, I think it all opens it up to fear and uncertainty, which is quite the opposite of what the Bible says to be.

00:42:48.320 I think Clint, uh, Clint sent me a video of them dropping some nuclear bomb in the ocean.

00:42:53.800 And he goes, he goes, top, I'll say that this is not a big deal.

00:42:57.140 And I looked at it and I was like, on the grand scheme of things, not really.

00:43:01.600 I mean, it's an impressive bomb.

00:43:03.480 Sure.

00:43:03.920 Like you dropped it, but like, we're talking about the earth, like the entire, they think like, if we drop a couple of nukes that I don't think you could destroy.

00:43:12.060 What's what God has created, you could ding it up a little bit.

00:43:15.260 Like Elon's dinging up our firmament real nice, but you're not going to destroy it.

00:43:19.880 So that's, I'm not too worried.

00:43:21.200 Honestly, another really funny thing about this whole firmament thing is now that we have the technology where we're launching rockets in the public eye at a relatively consistent basis.

00:43:33.600 Uh, you keep getting these videos where you go and I don't know what's happening, but it looks a lot like this thing is dinging off of the surface of water.

00:43:43.520 Like that's what it looks like.

00:43:45.140 The, the rocket looks to be moving towards something and it's like, it's, it's hitting something that has enough surface tension that it can't pierce it.

00:43:54.780 But whatever is beyond that, that, uh, layer that it can't pierce reacts like water and you watch it.

00:44:01.660 It, it, it, it looks like water.

00:44:03.420 It looks like a boat on the top of like a bioluminescent body of water.

00:44:08.140 Yeah.

00:44:08.560 And some people would say maybe a super fluid.

00:44:10.400 It could be something like that.

00:44:11.940 Yeah.

00:44:12.640 Yeah.

00:44:13.080 Look at that.

00:44:13.460 Oh, what do you, look at that.

00:44:14.580 Look at that.

00:44:15.100 Look at that.

00:44:15.460 If that doesn't look, that looks like something is hitting, uh, Josh is off the screen.

00:44:18.840 That looks like something is hitting and, and, uh, and attempting to pier.

00:44:23.140 Yeah.

00:44:23.360 Look at, wow.

00:44:24.480 Yeah.

00:44:24.920 Yeah.

00:44:25.820 Bro.

00:44:26.260 It's yeah.

00:44:26.900 So that's what God is talking about.

00:44:28.380 The waters above, you know, and, and what we need to understand is that.

00:44:31.660 In Genesis, it says that God placed the moon, sun, and the stars in the firmament.

00:44:36.780 So within the firmament, right?

00:44:38.480 So we don't have like a firmament and then the moon, sun, and the stars are outside of

00:44:43.020 that.

00:44:43.200 But there is a different views on that where there's seven heavens, but I believe that the

00:44:47.680 Bible in, in second Corinthians 12, uh, verse two through four is talking about, uh, Paul

00:44:52.880 going to the third heaven.

00:44:54.220 Right.

00:44:54.540 And that's where paradise is located.

00:44:55.940 So I'm only seeing three heavens.

00:44:57.600 If you go to extra biblical texts, you might find seven heavens, uh, Sean from kingdom,

00:45:02.140 kingdom and context.

00:45:03.260 He teaches the seven heaven model where the, their stars and the moon are in different

00:45:07.220 layers.

00:45:07.640 I don't, I don't teach that.

00:45:09.020 I teach.

00:45:09.380 I believe that the moon, sun, and the stars are within the firmament.

00:45:12.260 There's one firmament, which is talked about in Genesis one, seven.

00:45:15.800 And, uh, and then the waters are above that.

00:45:18.100 And above that would be God's throne.

00:45:20.400 Okay.

00:45:20.760 Uh, so, uh, another thing that I want to talk about is we have the earth being fixed

00:45:25.920 and immovable so far, right?

00:45:27.860 Uh, and, and the moon, sun, and the stars within the firmament.

00:45:30.700 Well, we have, uh, Bible verses that do talk about the, the moon and the sun are moving.

00:45:36.280 Okay.

00:45:36.600 So those are the one moving the earth is fixed and movable.

00:45:39.040 So first off, I'd go to Joshua 10 verses 12 through 13.

00:45:42.660 It says, then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day, the Lord delivered up the Amorites,

00:45:47.400 which Nephilim death squad, we should understand who the Amorites are.

00:45:51.500 The Amorites are actually the King of Bashan, Og, right?

00:45:54.700 You know who that is.

00:45:55.360 He's, he had a 15 by seven foot bed.

00:45:57.500 He is a giant, right?

00:45:59.040 So anytime that God is dealing with Nephilim, which I'll do a show with you guys on that

00:46:03.060 too, cause I could go through the whole Bible on that, but, uh, the Amorites are giants.

00:46:08.000 Okay.

00:46:08.380 So God is, is this is Joshua fighting against the Amorites, which, which if you go to, uh,

00:46:13.660 Genesis 15, uh, there's a five and four King war.

00:46:17.600 And there's, there's Raphaim fighting in that war with Sodom and Gomorrah right there on

00:46:21.760 their side.

00:46:22.360 And at the very end of that war, God says, I am not through with the Amorites yet.

00:46:27.420 Right.

00:46:27.840 And then throughout the Bible, as you go through Exodus and, uh, numbers, you're seeing the

00:46:32.020 Amorites being mentioned.

00:46:33.220 Now, finally, this is the war where God says that to take out the Amorites, right?

00:46:38.180 So God is getting involved.

00:46:40.120 How does he get involved?

00:46:41.160 It says, uh, that the Lord delivered the Amorites before the children of Israel.

00:46:44.620 And he said in the sight of Israel, son, stand still upon Gibeon and thou moon in the Valley

00:46:50.440 of Vajon.

00:46:51.200 And the sun stood still until the moon stayed and the moon stayed until the people had avenged

00:46:56.080 themselves upon their enemies.

00:46:57.660 Is it not written in the book of Jasher?

00:46:59.640 So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven and has not go down about a whole day.

00:47:04.020 And if you continue reading, it says that God, this is the first time God has ever done this

00:47:09.000 and he will never do this again.

00:47:10.760 So he stopped the moon and the sun from moving.

00:47:13.420 He put them in two geographical locations, right?

00:47:16.080 He doesn't say that he stopped the earth from spinning the earth from moving nothing about

00:47:20.520 the earth.

00:47:21.040 He's only talking about the sun and the moon stopping until the events, their enemies.

00:47:26.480 Okay.

00:47:26.740 So this is very important, I think, uh, because God is getting involved and you only see God

00:47:31.880 get involved when they're dealing with Nephilim or Raphaim most of the time in the old Testament.

00:47:38.120 And what do you, what do you make of the, the final experiment?

00:47:42.560 So we're talking about the sun moving and, uh, they were at a, I think they were in an article

00:47:47.980 or something like that.

00:47:48.520 And it's moving in a figure eight in a certain spot.

00:47:50.840 Uh, because I, I do, I do have a feeling that it's flat.

00:47:54.740 I don't think it's round, although I do enjoy a nice globe, uh, from time to time.

00:48:00.160 But, uh, what do you, do you think that, uh, the, the flat earth map is just incorrect?

00:48:05.920 What was going on there?

00:48:07.200 I think that, I think what people did is they married the AE map, which is the, um,

00:48:12.760 equidistant, I don't know how to pronounce it.

00:48:14.860 Sorry.

00:48:15.100 I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to butcher it.

00:48:16.620 Okay.

00:48:16.880 So the AE map, which is Antarctica on the outside brim, right.

00:48:22.080 And then, and then all the other continents on the inside.

00:48:24.340 So everybody kind of married that.

00:48:26.600 Not everybody.

00:48:27.120 Some people married that model to the Bible, biblical cosmology.

00:48:30.820 So when they went to Antarctica, which I do believe is, is real.

00:48:35.640 I know people say it's not real.

00:48:36.920 That's an Amazon studio and all that stuff.

00:48:38.580 I don't, I don't, I don't like to call people liars unless I have definitive 1 million percent

00:48:44.140 proof.

00:48:45.120 Uh, then, then that's, then maybe you could call someone a liar, but I don't want to call

00:48:48.780 like Jaron.

00:48:49.520 I don't want to call Witsit.

00:48:50.360 I don't want to call Will Duffy, who's a pastor and, uh, these people liars, unless

00:48:55.060 you have definitive, definitive proof.

00:48:56.620 So at the moment I'm, I'm trusting that, that the information is correct.

00:49:00.420 And, um, if the, if the moon or the sun does a, a, a circle around you in Antarctica, all

00:49:05.960 that does is just disprove the AE map, which is, which is a map that was handed us from

00:49:10.820 who, from, um, Eric Dubé and, uh, and, and Eric Dubé, I don't think is saying this is

00:49:16.800 exactly the way the world looks for sure.

00:49:18.600 100%.

00:49:19.120 Right.

00:49:19.820 I think he's just, they're just giving us a model that, that works, you know, where the

00:49:23.620 continents are placed.

00:49:24.660 Right.

00:49:25.000 And then, um, so to me, that doesn't prove the Bible or biblical cosmology wrong in any

00:49:30.120 way, because the Bible never claims anything about Antarctica, first of all.

00:49:33.340 And, uh, the Bible does claim though, that the, that the sun does a circuit, like a strong

00:49:39.060 man that runs a race, right?

00:49:40.420 So when you run a race, you can actually do a circle where you start at one point and then

00:49:44.360 you end at the other, right?

00:49:45.500 This is in Psalms 19, one through six.

00:49:47.560 Um, that's where it says that the heavens declare the glory of God, the firmament show

00:49:51.600 with his handiwork.

00:49:52.720 Uh, you know, that's, that's the, what's on, uh, um, Warner Brown's tombstone.

00:49:57.400 Tombstone.

00:49:57.940 Yeah.

00:49:58.020 If you continue reading, it says that the, that the sun, um, you know, I could probably

00:50:02.220 go to that verse.

00:50:03.020 I don't want to, um, butcher it at all.

00:50:05.100 So let's, let's go to that real quick.

00:50:06.580 Cause it's important.

00:50:07.880 Um, okay.

00:50:09.460 So Psalms 19, one, I went to Tom Psalms 20, my bad Psalms 19, one.

00:50:15.340 So it says the heavens declare the glory of God, the heavens being where the moon, sun

00:50:19.880 and the stars are located.

00:50:20.880 And then where God's throne is located and the firmament shows his handiwork, which I believe

00:50:25.760 is in between where God's throne is and the heavens, right?

00:50:28.040 So, and a handiwork actually, if you look at that word, it actually means God's achievement.

00:50:33.280 So the, the firmament is something that God created on day two.

00:50:36.720 It took him a whole entire day to create and it, it, it is showing his handiwork, which

00:50:41.440 means he built it.

00:50:42.460 It, it, it seems like it's structured, not something he spread out and made like, you

00:50:47.320 know, vast, but the firmament I believe is, is a solid dome.

00:50:51.040 Okay.

00:50:51.500 It says day and today utter speech and night, uh, reveals knowledge.

00:50:55.140 There is no speech nor language where their voice is not heard.

00:50:57.980 Their line has gone out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world in

00:51:01.860 them.

00:51:02.280 He has set a tabernacle for the sun.

00:51:04.800 Look up what that word tabernacle means.

00:51:07.160 Tabernacle means God's tent or Jehovah's tent.

00:51:10.080 Okay.

00:51:10.720 So that's more tent language, right?

00:51:13.500 So then he says, um, which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber and rejoices like

00:51:18.660 a strong man to run its race.

00:51:20.400 It's rising is from one end of the earth and, and it's circuit to the other end.

00:51:24.920 And there is nothing hid from the heat.

00:51:26.920 Okay.

00:51:27.360 So it's saying that, um, that it's like a strong man to run a race.

00:51:30.700 Now a track can be either a perfect circle or a track can be however God wants to make it.

00:51:35.780 So whatever the sun is doing in the sky, I'm not really sure exactly how that works, obviously.

00:51:41.100 And I know that some people, uh, believe that they have the sun tracked and they know exactly

00:51:45.140 what's going on.

00:51:45.740 So I would say with the final experiment and biblical cosmology at the moment, uh, the

00:51:50.480 Bible never claims anything about Antarctica or North pole, anything like that.

00:51:55.020 So it's not disproving biblical cosmology, but I would say that the, the actual AE map that

00:51:59.840 they pushed in flat earth that was given to us by Eric Dubé and by all these guys, I

00:52:04.220 would say that that map is proven wrong.

00:52:06.040 If the final experiment is 100% true, uh, it has to be wrong because you cannot have a,

00:52:12.020 a, a person in Antarctica, the sun circling them.

00:52:14.760 And then also it giving light to Australia and, uh, South Africa and all these other,

00:52:20.160 uh, right continents.

00:52:21.700 So that's what I would say, but there is people like, uh, Joe Hanby and, uh, other people that

00:52:27.720 are trying to come up with models that have a firmament or the sun would do that.

00:52:31.640 But I will admit, uh, I would admit it, admit it that I do believe that it does prove the,

00:52:37.540 the AE map wrong.

00:52:39.340 And, um, if you had three hats, one hat saying that it's flat, one hat saying globe and flat,

00:52:44.800 and then another hat saying that it's globe.

00:52:47.000 I think that that is an evidence that you can drop in the globe hat for now.

00:52:51.180 But when it comes to the physical earth, I do believe that there's a, there's a lot of

00:52:55.840 evidence in that flat map or the flat hat, I'm sorry, uh, for when you, when you're, when

00:53:01.040 you're measuring the physical earth, but all we could do as human beings, because we're,

00:53:05.420 we're, we're, we're on the earth trying to see what's going on in the heavens and see

00:53:08.660 what's going on.

00:53:09.360 And we're not NASA where we should supposedly go and look at the earth.

00:53:12.940 All we could do is just test, uh, the physical earth.

00:53:15.860 And I think that when you, when you talk about the celestial, which is like the skies, I think

00:53:20.480 some of, some of it can point to maybe us being a globe or something rather than flat.

00:53:25.060 But when it comes to the ground, uh, it seems like, uh, more towards flat, you know, if

00:53:30.100 that makes sense, that's how I would explain the final experiment.

00:53:34.380 So when it comes to the final experiment, there's, it's a weird thing because a lot of people

00:53:38.200 got very reactive and on Twitter, a lot of people, um, really identified with the flat

00:53:45.080 earth movement.

00:53:45.520 It kind of became like some people's, you know, entire thing.

00:53:48.080 And then you have this big moment, you're waiting for it.

00:53:50.300 This is where we're going to get it proven, right?

00:53:51.460 They, they end up, uh, saying, Oh, it doesn't look like it's the case.

00:53:54.960 And then what happens is everybody kind of jumps to this conclusion that this person is

00:53:58.960 a fed or this person's a shill or they're spreading disinformation.

00:54:01.560 It's just strange to me because, uh, we get this a lot too, you know, within the, the,

00:54:06.840 the Christian community, um, you know, because there's a deviation in ideology or interpretation

00:54:11.960 or whatever the case may be.

00:54:13.160 And I don't know why it's, especially when it comes to flat earth, if this is true, then

00:54:18.180 we have been lied to on a tremendous scale.

00:54:20.460 So we are fighting a crazy uphill battle, right?

00:54:23.960 So what you're doing is you're looking at people who are trying to figure out the mysteries

00:54:28.380 of the universe.

00:54:29.420 And then when they get something wrong, you're going, you're a planted shill.

00:54:32.860 You're an agent of disinformation and you're here to sow chaos.

00:54:35.140 You're here to split us up and you're here to co-op this movement.

00:54:37.120 And it's like, dude, we, this is hard to figure out.

00:54:41.580 It's a huge jump too.

00:54:43.220 It's a huge jump, dude.

00:54:44.500 Like they do that to me.

00:54:45.880 They're like a shoe or anything that not like it's, it's like saying, it's like telling somebody

00:54:51.280 you are a complete liar about everything in your life.

00:54:55.400 Dude, people, I mean, that's, that's, that's why I don't, it's like, I'm not a liar.

00:54:59.820 I'm an idiot.

00:55:00.660 I was wrong about something.

00:55:01.920 I don't know if you've paid attention, but they're doing a really good job of hiding stuff

00:55:05.420 from us.

00:55:05.820 That's why you dream people that do that though, bro.

00:55:08.700 Like, like you, you probably would know, like someone, one time I talked to, I said one

00:55:13.480 thing on my show and then this guy hit me up in the, in my DM and said, you're a shill

00:55:18.160 for saying that and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:55:19.780 And then I talked to him, like, if you talk to me as a person, like, like you're not going

00:55:23.680 to think I'm a shill.

00:55:25.000 But when I, when I talked to him, finally he was like, okay, you're not a shill now.

00:55:28.440 So I'm like, I'm like, bro, I never was a shill.

00:55:31.560 No.

00:55:31.840 Yeah.

00:55:32.060 Well, I'm just just like, dude, just saying one comment, you're going to call some of that.

00:55:34.880 So anyways, it happens in our community and, and, and people can believe what they want,

00:55:38.640 but there are some extreme people that will just immediately jump to that.

00:55:42.200 You know, that, that theory that someone's a shill, but, um.

00:55:45.380 Oh, that's interesting.

00:55:46.160 I had to look it up because I thought shill meant that you were getting paid.

00:55:50.240 So an accomplice paid by the government to like, kind of like paid by like the CIA to, to create

00:55:56.280 this information in, in the community.

00:55:58.700 Right.

00:55:59.300 And, and I'm my podcast, bro.

00:56:01.220 I literally have like 5,400 subscribers.

00:56:03.060 I see you guys have like 7,000 and I, and I'm, and I put out information and I probably

00:56:07.740 get like 300 views.

00:56:10.000 Sometimes they're like, if I have Gary Wayne or someone big on, I'll get a lot of views,

00:56:12.920 but not like 20, 40,000.

00:56:15.280 So it's like, it's so funny for someone to say that, you know, that any type of shill

00:56:19.440 language, it's constant.

00:56:20.880 I don't understand it just because like I said, it's, it's a difficult thing that we're

00:56:24.320 doing here.

00:56:24.820 Um, but these people will, uh, I don't, you have allies for the first time in history.

00:56:30.420 You're not blanketly dismissed as an idiot.

00:56:33.660 When you start talking about these concepts, you have a community where you can go and explore

00:56:37.520 these ideas and exchange information.

00:56:39.680 And instead you're just turning the gun on one another.

00:56:41.780 And it just seems so counterproductive and so stupid.

00:56:44.800 Um, for people that are loves it, bro.

00:56:47.320 Yeah.

00:56:47.680 The devil, these are people that are supposed to be critical thinkers, right?

00:56:50.540 I just want my moon map back.

00:56:53.300 So I don't care where everyone's at.

00:56:55.260 That's, that's what I wanted to ask you.

00:56:56.760 So I wanted to say that first.

00:56:57.760 And then I wanted to say, Josh, do you know about the moon map?

00:57:01.320 Uh, I've heard, uh, Dave Weiss referenced the moon map and I've heard Joe Hanvey talk about

00:57:06.320 the moon map.

00:57:07.200 Do I believe it?

00:57:08.280 I don't know.

00:57:09.060 I haven't.

00:57:10.660 Um, what I do is I just take what the Bible says and then I just, I just go from there.

00:57:15.100 And I'm not saying that the Bible is going to tell you every intricate detail about,

00:57:18.740 uh, science or anything like that.

00:57:20.760 But what I do is I just kind of take whatever the Bible says.

00:57:23.540 And I just, I stick with that until I haven't seen anything that proves it wrong.

00:57:28.400 But what I'll say is, um, we'll continue with the, with the sun and the moon moving real

00:57:32.880 quick.

00:57:33.120 And then we'll, we'll get into, um, you know, the firmament aspect of it.

00:57:37.700 So we have the sun.

00:57:39.040 Okay.

00:57:39.300 So I talked about Joshua, right?

00:57:41.440 I talked about the moon and the sun stopping in two geographical locations.

00:57:44.360 God will never do it again.

00:57:45.360 And we have two witnesses.

00:57:46.740 We have Habakkuk 311 also talking about the sun and moon stood still in their habitation

00:57:51.120 at the light of thine arrows.

00:57:52.520 They went in the shining of their glittering spears.

00:57:54.560 So that's actually, uh, Habakkuk talking about that exact event in Joshua, right?

00:57:59.700 And then in Isaiah, we also have, um, the, the moon is talking about the sun moving backward

00:58:06.920 on the sundial.

00:58:07.900 It says, um, and this is a sign to you from the Lord that the Lord will do this thing,

00:58:12.460 which he has spoken.

00:58:13.300 Behold, I will bring the shadow on the sundial, which has gone down.

00:58:16.780 When you look at gone down, it actually means to go away from, okay.

00:58:20.100 Uh, it says what the sun on the sundial of has 10 degrees backwards.

00:58:23.700 So the sun returned 10 degrees on the dial, which had gone down or gone away.

00:58:27.700 So, and Isaiah, it's talking about the, the sun actually going backwards.

00:58:31.540 Uh, he's talking to a king and the king is saying, Hey, I don't want the sun to go forward.

00:58:35.900 Uh, the shadow to go forward.

00:58:37.200 I want it to actually go backward.

00:58:38.380 That's a bigger miracle.

00:58:39.340 And God said, no problem.

00:58:40.320 He made the sundial go backwards.

00:58:42.080 It says here in Isaiah, right?

00:58:43.240 So, um, Ecclesiastes one five, it says the sun also rises.

00:58:47.500 The sun goes down and has since to the place where it arose.

00:58:50.460 If you look at that, uh, goes down, it's, uh, Zeraca.

00:58:55.440 It means actually to, uh, to, to go away.

00:58:59.140 And then, um, and then when it talks about the sun rising, it's bow.

00:59:03.380 It's to, to come forth, right?

00:59:05.120 To come forth and go away, right?

00:59:06.960 So that's, that, that does match up with more of the biblical cosmology model.

00:59:10.420 Okay.

00:59:10.720 So, uh, we already talked about in Genesis where the moon is a light, the sun is a light.

00:59:15.480 That is also, you can see that in one 36, seven through nine.

00:59:19.440 Also Jesus actually in, in Mark says that the, the, the moon, the, he'll darken the sun.

00:59:24.080 The moon will not give her light.

00:59:26.180 Okay.

00:59:26.580 Uh, you could find that in Isaiah 13, 10 as well.

00:59:29.320 And Job 25, five, where it talks about the, the sun does not shine and the stars are not

00:59:34.080 pure in his sight.

00:59:34.780 So, uh, the moon does not shine.

00:59:36.880 Okay.

00:59:37.140 So, uh, a lot of places in the Bible, several places, you're going to find that the moon

00:59:41.620 is a light, the sun is a light.

00:59:43.040 Okay.

00:59:43.320 So we kind of cover that information.

00:59:45.720 Uh, now let's discuss the firmament.

00:59:47.720 We already talked about rakia, what it was, uh, considered by Hebrews as solid supporting

00:59:52.220 waters above the word is rakia.

00:59:54.280 And, and, and if you look in the Greek, the word is, uh, stereoma, which also means solid.

01:00:00.460 Okay.

01:00:00.860 So on the, in the Greek Septuagint, which is 72 scholars translating the Bible from Hebrew

01:00:06.500 to Greek, we have that word firmament being stereoma, which also means solid.

01:00:11.180 So they, they kept that.

01:00:12.480 And then when it goes into the King James, they call it a firmament, not a softament, not

01:00:17.020 a gasament, not a, uh, uh, expansament.

01:00:20.040 It's called a firmament for a reason, because they still believed it was solid.

01:00:24.440 You know, now when you go into the NIV, these newer watered down translations, you're going

01:00:30.000 to see that the firmament becomes expanse expanse.

01:00:33.520 What does that mean?

01:00:34.100 Well, first, a lot of people, they're going to read that, go through Genesis and say expanse

01:00:37.760 just means space where the moon, sun, and the stars are located, right?

01:00:41.420 It's just means space.

01:00:42.580 And, uh, it, what they do is they compromise for science, right?

01:00:47.140 And, and the more they learn about science, they're going to compromise different words.

01:00:50.740 You're going to see it throughout the Bible, little, little changes that happened.

01:00:55.940 I just want to let you guys know that.

01:00:57.240 So we have that.

01:00:58.460 And then, um, there is something called the Ken Hoven theory, which says the firmament

01:01:02.200 was a solid piece of ice or ice canopy that was surrounding the earth when the flood happened

01:01:07.860 and that it melted and caused the flood.

01:01:10.820 But the problem with that is, like I said, the moon, sun, and the stars are in the firmament.

01:01:16.360 So that means that, that, that solid piece of ice would have to be outside of the galaxies.

01:01:21.580 And if it melted, it wouldn't even affect the earth, right?

01:01:24.160 So there would have to be two firmaments in that theory.

01:01:26.800 So I don't believe that that would be true, but it's something that a lot of pastors will

01:01:31.380 teach because they, they're not studying certain parts of the, of what the firmament actually

01:01:36.720 is.

01:01:37.120 So we have that, we talked about Psalms 19, one being on Warner von Braun's tombstone.

01:01:42.720 Warner von Braun was a Nazi scientist brought over from, from operation paperclip.

01:01:47.600 And he actually at the age of 66, which is crazy.

01:01:51.620 They say that he converted to Christianity.

01:01:53.340 So right before he died, they say he converted.

01:01:55.820 And then he gave us that breadcrumb of the heavens, declare the glory of God and the firmament

01:02:00.660 show with his handiwork, which I think is vastly important.

01:02:03.800 Uh, he created the Saturn five Saturn is being what Saturn is what Saturn is a God, Roman

01:02:11.840 God.

01:02:12.760 Uh, you have the Apollo, you have everything in NASA being all these different gods, uh,

01:02:18.360 Artemis, uh, Apollo.

01:02:20.600 Um, you have Mars rover.

01:02:22.520 What was the one where they launched the, the, the rocket?

01:02:25.840 It was like a year or so ago and they named it not a Polyon.

01:02:28.860 I forgot what they named it, but it was named after like some sort of a, a serpent, uh, like

01:02:33.440 a dragon entity, Apophis, Apophis.

01:02:36.600 Yeah.

01:02:36.760 They, they do that a lot.

01:02:37.780 It is fascinating that this guy, he, he's a Nazi scientist.

01:02:42.080 He gets picked up during operation paperclip.

01:02:44.220 He builds our space institutions.

01:02:46.380 And it seems like what he's doing is he's dumping.

01:02:49.680 If you look at the, the future of those space institutions now, um, all of his research into

01:02:54.920 trying to understand what this thing is, that's got us, you know, encapsulated within it and

01:03:00.000 how to launch shit at it.

01:03:01.980 And, and he, you know, so he dedicates all this time to like, you know, understanding and

01:03:07.560 figuring out how to get out of the firmament, right.

01:03:09.740 Which is tower of babble shit.

01:03:11.760 Um, and, and then by the end of it, he goes, yeah, I think I messed up.

01:03:15.100 I think I'm Christian now and I gotta, I gotta do something to remedy a lifetime of trying

01:03:19.800 to ding God's firmament and so his, his kind of hail Mary is this, uh, this passage on

01:03:25.580 his, on his gravestone.

01:03:26.980 Yeah.

01:03:27.420 Leaving us the breadcrumb.

01:03:28.600 Cause if you continue reading, it talks about the sun, right?

01:03:31.480 Having a tabernacle, which is a tent and it's, you know, the sun is moving over the earth.

01:03:35.720 Nothing can, nothing can, uh, can escape from the heat.

01:03:39.260 So they're like nothing.

01:03:40.540 What do you mean?

01:03:40.900 Nothing.

01:03:41.120 I thought the sun was just one sun and then every star is the sun with, with planets orbiting

01:03:45.260 them.

01:03:45.740 I thought there's 200 billion suns out there.

01:03:47.700 That's, that's kind of what the, the scientists would say, you know, so it's, it's very interesting

01:03:52.320 that he left that because if you continue reading it, like I said, it talks about the

01:03:55.440 sun doing a circuit in the heaven, you know, so very interesting.

01:03:58.700 And then, um, uh, also like if you go to, uh, Job 37, 18, it says, hast thou, uh, with

01:04:06.800 him spread out the sky, which is under the firmament.

01:04:09.760 That's where the moons and the stars are located as a molten looking glass, right?

01:04:13.760 So it's saying, which is strong as a molten looking glass.

01:04:17.540 So that's actually talking about what the firmament would be.

01:04:20.060 It's like a molten looking glass, right?

01:04:22.720 We have that.

01:04:23.320 And then, um, another thing we have is Isaiah, uh, 14, 13, uh, 13 through 15.

01:04:29.700 Uh, this says for you will have in your heart, I will ascend into heaven.

01:04:34.360 I will exalt my throne above the stars of God.

01:04:36.780 I will also sit on the mountain congregation on the farther sides of the North.

01:04:40.380 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds.

01:04:42.640 I will be like the most high.

01:04:44.740 Yeah.

01:04:45.100 You shall be brought down to shield to the lowest depths of the pit.

01:04:47.940 That verse is actually talking about either Lucifer or talking about the Babylonian King.

01:04:52.560 People have two different, uh, Nimrod, two different, uh, versions of that.

01:04:56.480 But the very interesting part, it says, I will also sit on the mountain congregation farther

01:05:00.100 sides of the North.

01:05:00.660 I was sent above the heights of the clouds.

01:05:02.160 I will be like the most high.

01:05:03.420 So, uh, what it's saying there is I will ascend into heaven.

01:05:06.300 I will exalt my throne above the stars of God.

01:05:08.000 What it's telling you is that God's throne is above the stars.

01:05:11.420 Okay.

01:05:11.980 Which I believe is above the firmament.

01:05:14.640 Um, we have another verse, Amos 9, 6.

01:05:17.240 It says, the one who builds his upper chambers in the heavens and has found his vaulted dome

01:05:22.460 over the earth.

01:05:23.360 He who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the face of the earth.

01:05:27.720 The Lord is his name.

01:05:29.040 That word vaulted dome.

01:05:30.600 If you look in, in the, um, it actually means binding, uh, like binding heaven to the earth.

01:05:36.740 Right.

01:05:37.040 So that's what I believe the firmament is.

01:05:38.540 It's binding heaven to the earth.

01:05:39.920 And that's the NASB 2020 version.

01:05:42.440 If you look at that word vaulted dome and, uh, the King James is actually going to be,

01:05:47.160 uh, it's going to be troops.

01:05:48.720 So it's like that troop, that word troops means binding.

01:05:51.280 It's very interesting.

01:05:52.720 Um, God's tabernacle meeting place, heaven and earth to shape like a dome.

01:05:56.420 I believe, uh, let's continue.

01:05:58.620 Another verse we have Isaiah 40, 21 through 22, which is something that people go to,

01:06:03.400 to point out that it's a globe or a sphere.

01:06:06.040 Let's read that real quick and break it down.

01:06:08.480 It says, have you not known?

01:06:10.160 Have you not heard?

01:06:10.860 Has it not been told you for the beginning?

01:06:12.780 Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?

01:06:15.340 It is he speaking of the most high who sits above the circle of the earth and its inhabitants

01:06:21.860 are like grasshoppers who stretches out the heavens like a curtain and spreads them out

01:06:27.220 like a tent to dwell in.

01:06:28.840 So first of all, we have, uh, talking about God sitting above the circle of the earth.

01:06:34.780 If you have a circle and a, and a firmament and God's throne being above it, and I'm looking

01:06:40.960 down through the firmament at us, we look like grasshoppers.

01:06:44.480 He spreads out the heavens, the heaven being where the moon, sun, and the stars are located.

01:06:49.240 Right.

01:06:49.900 And he says, um, stretches out the heavens like a curtain and spreads them out like a

01:06:55.280 tent to dwell in the tent being like a tabernacle, just like he talks about in Psalms 19, the

01:07:01.580 tent being like the firmament.

01:07:03.160 Okay.

01:07:04.140 So, uh, in the heliocentric model, you would have the, the, the, the globe, right?

01:07:10.400 Then you would have the sun and the earth orbiting the sun.

01:07:13.240 And then you would have the moon, sun of the stars being in this vast universe.

01:07:17.800 Then you would have a firmament outside of that.

01:07:21.180 Uh, right.

01:07:21.920 And then God would be ever expanding.

01:07:23.600 So God would be moving further and further and further away from us in that model.

01:07:29.100 But in the model I'm talking about where God's throne is above the firmament.

01:07:32.420 He's looking down on us like grasshoppers and he, he is above the circle of the earth.

01:07:37.340 It makes sense in the heliocentric model.

01:07:39.760 God would have to be chased going 66,600 miles an hour, chasing the sun at 440,000 miles an

01:07:45.040 hour, sitting above the circle of the earth.

01:07:46.640 Does that make sense to you guys in any way at all?

01:07:49.420 It seems like a pain in the ass.

01:07:50.920 If you're trying to sit on something, right?

01:07:53.620 All right.

01:07:54.160 So we have that.

01:07:55.180 And then he stretches out the firmament, like a curtain, spreads them like a tent to dwell

01:07:58.360 on.

01:07:58.500 I kind of talked about that.

01:07:59.520 And then also, if you look at Isaiah 66, one, it says, thus says the Lord, heaven is

01:08:04.640 my throne and the earth is my footstool.

01:08:07.900 Okay.

01:08:08.220 So where is the house that you build me?

01:08:10.520 And where is the place of my rest?

01:08:11.900 So Isaiah 66, one matches with Isaiah 40, 22, where he says that he is sitting above the

01:08:17.240 circle of the earth.

01:08:18.440 Isaiah 66, one says that the earth is his footstool.

01:08:21.820 Heaven is my throne.

01:08:23.160 Earth is my footstool.

01:08:24.120 And then if you go to Isaiah 22, 18, it says he will surely violently turn and toss thee

01:08:29.400 like a ball into a large country.

01:08:31.720 So Isaiah obviously knows the difference between a circle and a ball.

01:08:35.600 You could tell because he says ball in this verse and circle in the other.

01:08:39.680 And that word, a circle is used in most of the translations.

01:08:43.560 You'll find maybe a few that would say sphere right there.

01:08:48.660 But that word sphere, though, there's no word for sphere in Hebrew.

01:08:56.060 All there is is a word for ball.

01:08:57.820 And he doesn't use the same word.

01:08:59.960 Okay.

01:09:00.200 So they're compromising for science once again with newer, newer translations.

01:09:04.680 Okay.

01:09:05.080 And even in the NIV, it's still going to use circle because they want to stay true to the

01:09:08.560 Hebrew.

01:09:08.780 There are a lot of people on, especially X right now, one of the narrative that's becoming

01:09:15.400 very popular.

01:09:16.180 And I think it's because they found some evidence on the ceiling of the Capitol building.

01:09:21.700 Is it the Capitol building where they have that like effigy or not effigy, but a painting

01:09:25.380 of George Washington?

01:09:27.340 Yeah.

01:09:27.700 And he's kind of like deified, right?

01:09:29.500 He's doing the as above, so below.

01:09:30.800 Sitting on a throne.

01:09:31.960 He's sitting on a throne with 22 stars below him.

01:09:35.160 Yeah.

01:09:35.520 And if you look at what the Bible says.

01:09:36.860 Yeah.

01:09:37.340 And the Bible actually talks about stars being what?

01:09:40.860 Well, let's, let's break it down.

01:09:43.120 It says that stars are angels.

01:09:45.340 Okay.

01:09:46.740 Not saying that every single angel that's ever been created is a star.

01:09:51.220 What I'm saying is that, that stars are a sect of angels.

01:09:54.640 Okay.

01:09:55.360 There's a physical world that we live in, and then there's a spiritual world that we live

01:09:59.520 in.

01:09:59.640 Okay.

01:09:59.900 So people need to understand that.

01:10:02.040 Why would I say that stars are angels?

01:10:03.940 Well, if you go to, uh, revelation 12 verse four, and when it talks about Satan bringing

01:10:09.760 down a third of stars, he doesn't say a third of angels.

01:10:13.580 It says a third of stars.

01:10:15.080 Why would it say that?

01:10:16.000 And, and what is revelation?

01:10:17.520 It's a, it's a revelation from whom revelation from Jesus, right?

01:10:21.140 Jesus Christ, which I believe is God.

01:10:23.040 Right.

01:10:23.300 So, uh, he says stars there.

01:10:26.100 Uh, if you go to revelation, it also says that all the stars are going to fall to the

01:10:30.380 earth, right?

01:10:31.500 They're going to be shaken like a fig tree and they're going to fall to the earth.

01:10:34.900 Um, if you have a firmament connected to the earth with the moon, sun, the stars in the

01:10:39.760 firmament and all the stars fall to the earth, there's no issue with that.

01:10:43.820 Right.

01:10:44.220 If you have a heliocentric model where this is the globe and all the stars are bigger than

01:10:49.760 the sun and you have all of them fall to the earth, uh, we have a bigger problem than

01:10:55.120 the antichrist.

01:10:56.000 If that happens, right.

01:10:56.860 So we're all worried about the mark of the beast.

01:10:59.740 What about that?

01:11:01.080 Okay.

01:11:02.160 You know, Josh, inside that, that theory, um, that's been popularized by it.

01:11:06.800 So on that, on that painting, you know, there's this big open space above George Washington's

01:11:12.280 head and you can kind of discern, it's a little bit hard to see, but you can, if you change

01:11:16.720 the contrast or something on the photo that there seems to be almost like a map, um, that's,

01:11:22.340 that's very lightly painted onto this surface.

01:11:25.260 And that map matches with another one.

01:11:27.140 That's like a flat earth map.

01:11:28.140 And it, and it shows, uh, the North pole as being the center.

01:11:31.380 And, and, and I don't know exactly what it is that these people have, uh, whatever conclusion

01:11:35.720 they've come to, but they've been saying that Jesus is, I think that what they're saying

01:11:40.520 is above the North pole, but if it was flat and the North pole was in the center and then,

01:11:45.580 and then God would be seated at the top of the firmament in the center, right.

01:11:49.480 Uh, that almost kind of makes sense.

01:11:52.280 Is there anything in your research that's ever kind of pointed you in that direction?

01:11:56.200 Okay.

01:11:56.600 Look, uh, Isaiah 14, 13 through 15.

01:11:59.540 I read it a little bit ago.

01:12:00.660 So it says for, this is, this is either, like I said, this is either Satan that he's talking

01:12:05.180 about, or this is Nimrod.

01:12:06.860 Okay.

01:12:07.000 There's two different versions of, uh, that people believe, but check this out.

01:12:09.900 It says, for you have said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven.

01:12:13.320 I will exalt my throne above the stars of God.

01:12:16.300 So what he's saying is that he's going to, he wants to ascend into heaven and obviously

01:12:21.760 be above the stars, which is where God's throne is located.

01:12:24.660 I will also sit on the Mount of congregation on the farthest sides of the North.

01:12:29.740 Okay.

01:12:30.180 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds.

01:12:32.320 I will be like the most high yet.

01:12:33.940 You shall be brought down to shield to the lowest depths of the pit.

01:12:37.040 Okay.

01:12:37.480 That's a very, very famous verse that talks about people believe that Satan or believe

01:12:40.780 it's Nimrod.

01:12:41.640 But first of all, what is that?

01:12:44.100 I will sit on the farthest sides of the North.

01:12:46.520 So if you have the flat earth and you have the North star right above, uh, the, the North

01:12:52.080 pole, and you have God sitting at the highest point of the firmament, which would be in the

01:12:57.300 center, then God's throne could very well be in the farther sides of the North.

01:13:01.540 That's probably why you have the, uh, Aurora lights and things happening like that.

01:13:06.460 Now people would argue and say, well, there's a rural lights in, uh, in the South as well.

01:13:11.080 Well, the rural lights are, are the color of like sapphire, which in the Bible, it describes

01:13:15.920 a lot of, of, of God.

01:13:17.700 If you look at God's throne, you're seeing a sapphire stone.

01:13:21.080 Right?

01:13:21.440 So I just want to throw that out there, but yeah, that is something that could be true.

01:13:25.420 And I think that Satan's little season, a lot of people are trying to say that Jesus

01:13:29.020 is in the North pole or that's it.

01:13:31.300 Yeah.

01:13:31.440 Yeah.

01:13:31.580 It's connected to like the little season.

01:13:33.140 Okay.

01:13:33.320 Yeah.

01:13:33.600 So yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:34.320 So there's different theories on that.

01:13:36.220 Eschatology wise, if you guys study eschatology in any way, and if you're honest with yourself,

01:13:40.380 uh, then I would say that some people believe they have eschatology broken down to a timeline

01:13:45.260 and to a T and they know everything.

01:13:46.620 What I would say about eschatology is study all of it and make sure that you're not just,

01:13:52.960 you know, if someone could give you chapter and verse of every single thing that they're

01:13:56.060 saying, then I agree.

01:13:57.320 But sometimes some people have chapter and verse, and then sometimes people have like

01:14:01.240 a little gap in between there that they're adding.

01:14:03.520 And then they have chapter and verse, chapter and verse, you know what I mean?

01:14:06.040 So it, it just is, um, something right now that I'm still trying to figure out.

01:14:10.100 I don't have figured out yet.

01:14:11.580 I'm almost positive studying.

01:14:13.400 I'm almost positive that I'm misinterpreting this.

01:14:15.560 Um, uh, but John two, uh, five through six, it says, uh, Jesus is true North, which is

01:14:22.860 a fascinating language to you.

01:14:24.700 I'm like, I said, I'm sure I'm misinterpreting that, but it just, it strikes me as, as fascinating

01:14:29.200 given the context of the conversation we're having.

01:14:31.820 Yes, it is fascinating.

01:14:33.300 And, and, um, that, that, that the stars being angels, if you go to, um, Isaiah, it talks

01:14:38.920 about, instead of the stars falling to the earth, it talks about the host of heaven falling

01:14:43.420 to the earth, which lines up with revelation.

01:14:45.380 So host of heaven or army of what army of angels, right?

01:14:49.360 So that's very interesting.

01:14:50.900 If you go to, um, uh, you know, Isaiah six or Ephesians six, 12, it talks about the host

01:14:58.240 of heaven being in heavenly places.

01:14:59.800 You know, uh, uh, you know what, let me go to that verse.

01:15:01.940 So I don't butcher that as well.

01:15:03.840 Um, I like to actually read from the Bible so that I don't, um, you know, we wrestle not

01:15:08.480 against flesh and blood where principalities of evil, right?

01:15:10.760 That's, that's the way it starts, uh, Ephesians six, 12.

01:15:14.920 And then, uh, so it says for, we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities,

01:15:21.080 against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this age, against spiritual host of wickedness

01:15:25.320 in heavenly places.

01:15:27.340 Uh, if you go to the book of Daniel, uh, when, when, when he's praying, he's doing a 21 day

01:15:31.880 fast, he's, he's praying to an angel and it takes 21 days for his prayer to be answered.

01:15:36.600 He's fasting, right?

01:15:37.740 So he's like waiting for the angel to come and answer him.

01:15:40.140 And the angel comes and tells Daniel, I tried to come here sooner, but, but on the way from,

01:15:45.040 you know, between earth and heaven, he was fighting a battle against the Prince of Persia,

01:15:49.320 which I believe is a, obviously an evil angel trying to prevent him from getting to Daniel.

01:15:53.640 And he said, I had to call on Michael, the archangel to help me.

01:15:56.320 So that way I could come back to you.

01:15:58.260 So between heaven and earth is where the heavenly battles are happening.

01:16:01.520 That's where the fallen angels and angels are having wars, right?

01:16:05.540 That we're not able to see, but are happening.

01:16:07.960 Right?

01:16:08.180 So I just want to let you guys know that.

01:16:09.820 And that's why it says that there's principalities, uh, and powers against the rules of darkness

01:16:14.440 in spiritual hosts, in wickedness of wickedness and heavenly places.

01:16:20.340 Heavenly means where the moon, sun, and the stars are located, right?

01:16:23.700 Because if, if there was wars happening in heavenly places, like God's throne, that that's not

01:16:29.260 happening.

01:16:29.600 There's no wars happening around God, only between heaven and earth is where things are

01:16:35.200 explained.

01:16:35.960 So I just think people need to realize that it's very important.

01:16:40.300 Uh, and then, um, I'll continue.

01:16:43.860 So with the firmament aspect, we have Ezekiel 10, one, it says, then I looked and behold in

01:16:49.820 the firmament was above the head of the cherubims.

01:16:52.280 There appeared over them as a sapphire stone, which I talked about earlier as the appearance

01:16:56.840 and likeness of a throne.

01:16:58.280 Okay.

01:16:58.820 So Ezekiel is a prophet.

01:17:00.840 Okay.

01:17:01.560 Um, and, and numbers 12 verses four through eight, it says that God spoke to Moses face

01:17:05.660 to face and mouth to mouth.

01:17:06.720 He says before that, he says, I come to profits and visions and in dreams.

01:17:10.940 But when I speak to Moses, I speak to him face to face and mouth to mouth.

01:17:14.080 So any vision or dream or anything that comes from the prophets is also coming from God.

01:17:19.560 God has given Ezekiel a vision and a vision of heaven, right?

01:17:23.920 That's why he's seeing this.

01:17:25.140 Uh, Ezekiel one 26, I talked about earlier and the, and above the firmament that was

01:17:30.060 over their heads was the likeness of a throne as appearance of a sapphire stone.

01:17:33.700 And upon the likeness of the throne was likeness appearance of a man above upon it.

01:17:38.180 So Ezekiel is talking about looking through the firmament and seeing what looked like

01:17:43.200 a man on the throne.

01:17:45.360 Okay.

01:17:45.920 So that's, that's telling me that above the firmament is God's throne, right?

01:17:49.420 So we have that, um, and, uh, revelation four, six gives us a glimpse into heaven.

01:17:56.000 It says, and therefore the throne was a sea of glass, like crystal.

01:17:59.740 And in the midst of the throne found, uh, four beasts of eyes before him.

01:18:03.840 It's saying there's a throne and below the firmament is a sea of glass, like a crystal,

01:18:08.120 um, or below his throne.

01:18:09.780 And then also in revelation, you hear waters in heaven.

01:18:13.840 You also hear thundering sounds.

01:18:16.200 So there's water in heaven.

01:18:17.920 Now what's below God's throne?

01:18:19.520 Well, there's water below God's throne and what's below the water, the firmament.

01:18:23.800 That's what is described when it says that water separates the water from water.

01:18:28.220 The firmament separates the water from the water, right?

01:18:30.660 Mm-hmm.

01:18:31.480 God's called the Messiah too.

01:18:32.760 I'm sorry to interrupt, but when you, yeah, cause I'm probably going crazy.

01:18:36.700 No, no, no.

01:18:37.200 But you know, this, this idea of waters above is something that, um, comes up a lot.

01:18:42.180 And, uh, there's a, a much larger conversation about, uh, aether, right?

01:18:47.800 The aether, um, and that this is some sort of, uh, state that's in between a liquid and

01:18:53.640 a gas.

01:18:54.440 And, uh, uh, you know, we've become very comfortable in this UAP discussion about like plasma and

01:19:00.780 plasmoids and things like that.

01:19:03.020 Um, but plasma itself being this, uh, fourth state of matter, right?

01:19:07.160 Solid liquid gas.

01:19:07.960 And then plasma, um, it's something that isn't taught in schools, but does seem to be recognized

01:19:13.100 by the scientific community.

01:19:14.780 Do you think that, and obviously this is speculation, Josh, I know you've never been outside the

01:19:19.060 firmament.

01:19:19.380 Nobody's been outside the firmament, but, um, do we, do you think that that's what we're

01:19:24.660 dealing with outside of that?

01:19:26.140 So water's above meaning something that is, is, is like water.

01:19:31.400 It does seem that plasma behaves in some ways like water.

01:19:34.580 Do you think that's what we're dealing with?

01:19:36.300 We could be, or like I said, some people say like a super fluid, which is like a water that

01:19:41.280 could stay up in the sky, but not like water.

01:19:43.980 That's like liquid, but a different kind of state of water.

01:19:46.000 There's different theories out there, right?

01:19:48.360 So I'm not really sure.

01:19:49.720 I know that the ether was talked about in the science community.

01:19:52.200 And I know that the Mickelson Morley experiment was trying to test for, you know, the, the

01:19:56.920 movement of the earth, right through the ether.

01:19:58.900 And I believe that there was just a fringe of like very minute, not the 18.5 seconds or

01:20:05.720 18.5 miles per second that they were looking for.

01:20:08.500 They just got a little slight fringe.

01:20:10.800 And what people believe that that fringe was that are in our community or the geocentric

01:20:14.660 community would be, that was just the, the ether moving or the sky moving, not the earth.

01:20:19.900 Right.

01:20:20.380 So you're not getting like a, they're not getting what they wanted.

01:20:23.860 So what happened is, um, Albert Einstein had to come out, talk about, it's not, you

01:20:27.880 know, it's not the gravity.

01:20:29.500 It's these, uh, uh, the theory of relativity that he came out with and all that stuff to

01:20:34.040 kind of patch up the Mickelson Morley experiment.

01:20:36.000 So there's a lot to it.

01:20:37.700 Um, I, I, I am not the guy to talk to you about ether or to talk to you about, um, that

01:20:43.480 type of information.

01:20:44.360 I think Witsit would be very good to get on your show to talk about that.

01:20:47.420 He's better at the ether and that type of, uh, conversation.

01:20:51.100 He like, he's better at pointing out the scientific aspects of the flat earth and the scientific

01:20:55.960 things that, that have been, he exposes kind of what scientists have done experimental wise

01:21:01.660 that proves more of a flat earth.

01:21:03.500 Me, I'm more about bringing up what the Bible says.

01:21:06.440 And then there's a few things I could talk about scientifically, you know, that we can actually

01:21:10.540 observe, right.

01:21:11.680 That is actually proven and not just theoretical, if that makes sense.

01:21:17.080 There, there's the other aspect of, of it.

01:21:19.900 Cause there's, you know, the water's above and we're speculating as to whether or not

01:21:22.780 that's aether or something like that.

01:21:23.920 But, uh, the water's below is an interesting conversation.

01:21:26.700 Cause you might just dismiss that as like oceans and rivers.

01:21:30.340 Right.

01:21:30.720 Um, but now all of a sudden we're discovering, we knew there was groundwater, right?

01:21:35.620 We've, we've always had a handle on that, but there's this other part of the discussion.

01:21:40.240 I actually have to talk to somebody, uh, one of the followers of the show, uh, uh, shout

01:21:44.580 out to Matthew Lane, uh, was trying to put somebody on our radar and we just got so busy,

01:21:49.040 got lost in the mix up, but it's a lady who lives out here in Florida who, um, on her

01:21:54.140 property, they discovered primary waters.

01:21:57.100 Uh, and, and so the idea of primary waters is like gigantic subterranean reservoirs,

01:22:04.040 essentially of, of freshwater, I believe.

01:22:06.480 And, um, one thing leads to another, that guy who owned that property, he's now in prison.

01:22:12.140 He's been jailed.

01:22:13.600 Um, and, and I think there's like this effort to try to gain access to his property one way

01:22:19.120 or another, but it's just interesting because now if you truly are dealing with, uh, excuse

01:22:23.980 me, if you truly are dealing with, uh, untold amounts of, uh, water reserves beneath the

01:22:33.560 surface of the earth, um, it just kind of changes the conversation a little bit, you

01:22:37.720 know?

01:22:37.880 And it, and it feels like once again, we're like really close to, uh, the scientific

01:22:42.760 community discovering something that confirms or deep, bro.

01:22:47.840 Um, yeah, exactly.

01:22:48.940 The fountains of the great deep, right?

01:22:50.220 Exactly.

01:22:50.660 Yeah.

01:22:50.820 So, yeah.

01:22:51.660 So, uh, that's, I think that that's definitely now we can kind of bring in the flood aspect

01:22:56.200 of it.

01:22:56.560 Right.

01:22:56.740 So, uh, the flood, so the flood, there's, there's three separate events that happen in, in the

01:23:02.020 flood, right?

01:23:02.560 So the first event that happens is the fountains of the great deep were broken.

01:23:06.480 So water came from below.

01:23:07.960 So if you have a firmament like a fishbowl, you know, and then you have flat land with

01:23:13.520 mountains and, and, and topographical, uh, obviously, uh, uh, topographed, right?

01:23:18.460 So, okay.

01:23:19.220 So you have the water, the fountains of the great deep and broken.

01:23:22.060 So you have water coming from below.

01:23:23.460 So that would, that would lift up Moses's or not was, but Noah's arc.

01:23:27.160 Right.

01:23:27.380 So it lifted up and then it has the windows of heaven being open, which I believe were, uh,

01:23:32.480 what windows of the firm that being open and water coming in and filling up the fishbowl.

01:23:36.460 And then it also rained for 40 days and 40 nights.

01:23:38.960 So you have three separate events that happened during the flood.

01:23:41.320 How do I know that?

01:23:42.340 Because when, when you go to, when God stopped, he says that he, he stopped the, the, the,

01:23:47.680 um, he said he stopped the fountains of the great deep or close them.

01:23:51.000 Right.

01:23:51.440 And then it says that he stopped the, the, uh, the, um, the, uh, firm or the, uh, the

01:23:57.100 windows of heaven.

01:23:57.900 He said, he stopped.

01:23:58.940 What if you look at that word, it means closed in the, in the Hebrew.

01:24:01.480 So he closed the windows of heaven.

01:24:02.940 And then he said that it stopped raining.

01:24:04.820 So there's three separate events there in the flood.

01:24:07.360 Most pastors talk about, uh, you know, 40 days and 40 nights is all that happened during

01:24:11.940 the flood, but there's fountains of the great deep and broken.

01:24:14.740 So water came from below water came from above through the firmament, right.

01:24:18.860 And filled up the fishbowl because it had to fill up so much that it was 15 cubits above

01:24:23.260 the highest mountain.

01:24:24.200 So if you have a fishbowl or a firmament connecting to the earth and the water is filling up, it's,

01:24:29.420 there's no problem with the flood being a worldwide, which is what the Bible talks about.

01:24:34.080 It says all, all, all several times, all like all the earth.

01:24:39.440 Right.

01:24:39.680 And it's also talking about all the animals and all life.

01:24:42.820 You know what I mean?

01:24:43.720 Yeah.

01:24:43.880 They try to have this discussion about whether or not it was a localized flood, like a really

01:24:47.360 bad flood on one continent.

01:24:48.800 But then you have all these correlating flood mythos from all these different, uh, cultures

01:24:54.160 that were separated by oceans and, and, you know, miles and all this shit.

01:24:57.000 And it's once again, I imagine there probably was a period of time where if you were trying

01:25:02.360 to think of that level of a flood logistically, you would go, there's simply no way to have

01:25:07.040 that much water on the earth.

01:25:08.360 Where would it come from?

01:25:09.040 How would you even do it?

01:25:10.240 And then as time goes on, science discovers primary waters.

01:25:13.280 And then once again, science in all of its, um, hubris, you know, just confirms the Bible.

01:25:20.220 Well, this was like, uh, uh, before, before the flood, were there any oceans?

01:25:23.880 Because, uh, I don't know.

01:25:25.920 I think we were talking with Ed when God made the, made the earth, there weren't oceans.

01:25:30.380 There were, well, it says in day three that God created the seas, the dry land, the vegetation

01:25:37.640 and the seas.

01:25:38.340 So the oceans were created.

01:25:40.060 You just, okay.

01:25:41.240 So people, okay.

01:25:42.260 Here's the thing.

01:25:42.860 When people believe in the globe, they're going to do their very best.

01:25:46.380 Now, Ed, maybe I love Ed.

01:25:47.760 Maybe I had him on my show.

01:25:48.620 I'm not, I'm not saying right now.

01:25:49.700 He's, he's still in the midst of studying.

01:25:51.760 Right.

01:25:52.400 So, um, if, if we get a chance to talk, which we're going to, we're going to talk again,

01:25:56.040 uh, I could go over everything that I went over with you guys at some point with him.

01:25:59.760 But what I'm saying is day three, it says that God created the dry land, the vegetation

01:26:04.260 and the seas, which are the oceans.

01:26:06.120 So there was oceans.

01:26:07.720 Now there was no rain before the flood.

01:26:10.560 It used to just be a mist.

01:26:12.580 The only rain that's that, that the people ever saw was when it started raining for the flood.

01:26:18.640 Okay.

01:26:18.920 That's it.

01:26:19.940 Okay.

01:26:20.260 So that's why people were looking at Noah.

01:26:22.220 Like he was crazy.

01:26:23.460 Like, what are you talking about?

01:26:24.600 It's going to rain.

01:26:25.340 We don't even know what rain is.

01:26:26.840 So, um, I don't, and also Timothy Albarino is he's, he believes in, uh, are you sure that

01:26:32.800 that's what that word means though?

01:26:33.980 Like the sea, uh, the ocean.

01:26:37.200 Yeah.

01:26:38.200 Uh, ocean.

01:26:39.160 Yeah.

01:26:39.300 Uh, well, I mean, what, what, what would you, what would you, uh, take is that word?

01:26:43.000 Let's see.

01:26:43.400 Let's check.

01:26:43.960 Look it up real quick.

01:26:44.620 What is the sea of Galilee?

01:26:47.880 You see how it's not, it's not quite a sea.

01:26:49.640 This is a huge body of water.

01:26:51.260 I live in like near, uh, Lake County and they have a lot of stuff like this, but I wouldn't

01:26:56.960 call it the sea.

01:26:57.880 So like, I'm just wondering the, uh, the verbiage behind that.

01:27:02.800 Okay.

01:27:03.260 So I never stopped to think about sea versus the waters.

01:27:05.820 Okay.

01:27:06.220 So it says, let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place and let

01:27:10.320 the dry land appear.

01:27:11.180 And it was so, and God called the dry land earth and, and gathering together the waters

01:27:15.700 called the seas.

01:27:16.820 So let's click on seas and see what, see what that means.

01:27:19.900 Um, let's see.

01:27:21.820 It's, it's like, it's not, I'm not even like disagreeing.

01:27:24.540 I just like, I think it's important to do this.

01:27:27.280 Okay.

01:27:27.600 So, um, it says, uh, sea Mediterranean.

01:27:32.240 Mediterranean sea, red sea, dead sea, sea of Galilee, sea general, like sea general,

01:27:36.780 which would be general, like of what we would call the sea mighty river, Nile, the sea, the

01:27:41.660 great basin, sea, sea word, westward and upward.

01:27:44.840 So, um, so.

01:27:47.500 That didn't help me at all.

01:27:48.780 That was a crazy definition.

01:27:50.820 Do you see the word word and left word?

01:27:54.160 What do you see?

01:27:54.720 The red sea is this like, it says, that's not a large.

01:27:57.560 Yeah.

01:27:57.780 Yeah.

01:27:57.920 Yeah.

01:27:58.080 It said a sea would be like a large body of water, specifically the Mediterranean

01:28:01.220 sea, sometimes artificial basin.

01:28:03.340 So, um, are you, are you saying that, um,

01:28:05.980 Well, I'm saying the difference between a sea and the ocean, you see this, like that's

01:28:09.860 the ocean.

01:28:10.480 Like, what is this?

01:28:12.020 And then this is a sea for sure.

01:28:15.740 Yeah.

01:28:16.100 Okay.

01:28:16.340 I don't know.

01:28:16.740 I never, I got to admit never in my 34 years, have I stopped to discern the difference between

01:28:21.140 sea and ocean.

01:28:21.920 I would have done a hundred percent.

01:28:23.200 Like if you said, I'm sailing the seven seas, I'm like this dude's on the ocean.

01:28:26.380 And so another word would be like, uh, and God said, let us make man in our image after

01:28:31.100 all likeness and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea.

01:28:34.560 So is he talking about the, do we only have dominion over the fish of, of, of in the sea

01:28:40.180 of Galilee, or do we have dominion over the fish in the whole entire earth?

01:28:44.280 Right.

01:28:44.640 So what, what, how would you discern that?

01:28:47.820 Right.

01:28:47.980 That's a good point.

01:28:48.640 Continue.

01:28:48.920 That's, I think that's a very solid point.

01:28:50.920 Yeah.

01:28:51.200 Genesis nine, two, it says in the fear of you and dread, you shall be upon every beast

01:28:55.160 of the earth and upon the foul of the air upon them, uh, everything that moveth upon the

01:28:59.340 earth and upon all the fishes of the sea into your hand, they gathered.

01:29:04.220 Um, let's see, uh, the salt sea, uh, more, more words for sea, uh, which is upon that.

01:29:10.580 Okay.

01:29:11.480 So in the blessing, I will bless thee and multiplying.

01:29:14.060 I will apply thy seed as the stars of heaven and as the sand, which is upon the sea shore

01:29:19.100 and thy, thy seed shall possess the gate of enemy.

01:29:22.500 So he's, he's, he's saying that all the sand on the ocean shore, not the sea of Galilee.

01:29:28.360 Right.

01:29:28.880 So, uh, let's continue.

01:29:30.640 Um, anytime they were the, the word, the word sea, I just want to make sure that we're,

01:29:34.500 we're looking to see if, if, if we could compare it to the ocean.

01:29:37.420 So we have the red sea and Exodus, the red sea, the red sea.

01:29:41.340 Um, let's continue.

01:29:42.740 Um, let's see Exodus.

01:29:45.260 So, yeah, so there's a, I think the word sea, there's no word for ocean.

01:29:49.120 You know what I mean?

01:29:49.820 So you'd have to look at sea.

01:29:51.660 You could say that it is the red sea, which is a good point.

01:29:54.340 Maybe the sea of Galilee only, but can you, can you expound on where you, where you don't

01:29:59.220 believe that the oceans were created in that?

01:30:00.980 I don't, I want to know who said that or how, how you, how you get, got that.

01:30:04.380 Or like why, why we're even discussing it.

01:30:06.560 Cause I think it's interesting.

01:30:07.440 I'm trying to remember, I like, we have so much information coming in, but, uh, I think

01:30:13.280 in the end, uh, after, after Jesus comes back, there's not supposed to be any ocean.

01:30:20.540 Okay.

01:30:20.940 So there's going to be a new heaven and a new earth.

01:30:23.900 All right.

01:30:24.340 So, uh, some people believe that there's a 15, 1500 mile by 1500 miles square mile that

01:30:31.040 comes down through the firmament and ends up on the earth.

01:30:33.920 Or if you look at it, it says creating a new heaven and a new earth where there's no, there's

01:30:38.900 no sun anymore.

01:30:40.240 Uh, no moon needed.

01:30:41.840 Jesus is the light of the earth.

01:30:43.080 Right.

01:30:43.300 So we have that.

01:30:44.040 So what I, what I wanted to say is, uh, is this, so, uh, you have water to begin with.

01:30:51.300 And then it says that the dry land appeared.

01:30:53.600 So the continents appeared through the water.

01:30:57.220 So what I believe is happening there, you could either believe, uh, so that's, that's

01:31:02.600 kind of what's happening there in Genesis.

01:31:04.060 When it's talking about the, uh, let's, let's find out what it says.

01:31:06.900 It says, and God said, um, God made the firmament and, and divided the waters from the water,

01:31:12.020 which were under the firmament from the waters, which were above the firmament.

01:31:15.020 And it was so, and God called the firmament heaven and the heaven in the morning were the

01:31:18.660 second day.

01:31:19.260 And God said, let the waters under the heaven be gathered together in one place and let the

01:31:24.860 dry land appear.

01:31:25.960 And it was so, and God called the dry land earth and the gathering together of the waters.

01:31:30.980 He called the seas.

01:31:32.880 So that's why I think it would be the ocean because the dry land appeared, right?

01:31:38.220 And that'd be like the dry land coming from underneath, I believe the oceans.

01:31:42.080 And that's how it appeared.

01:31:43.280 And he's saying that he, uh, he gathered together the waters from the seas.

01:31:46.380 I would have to do a deeper study on that.

01:31:48.620 But I don't see any word in the Hebrew for ocean.

01:31:51.480 I could find out if there's, there is a word, if there is, then, Hey, then you might have

01:31:55.600 a really good, uh, really good point there, which is, which would, well, it's a fascinating

01:31:59.180 point though, Josh, to say, if we're given dominion over all of the fish in the sea,

01:32:02.860 does that mean that we don't have dominion over the fish in the Atlantic and the Pacific?

01:32:06.260 Because it's like, yeah, I mean, I don't know.

01:32:08.740 We have, we have this UFO, uh, phenomenon of coming from the ocean.

01:32:13.120 And there's this idea of this like weird, interesting to brackish water that is, uh,

01:32:18.340 highly salinity, highly salinated.

01:32:21.040 And I don't know if you, if you think that perhaps these, that's why I like the idea that

01:32:26.120 I'm kind of draw it.

01:32:27.260 I'm trying to draw it here is you have these angels in the sky that are suspended in some

01:32:33.280 type of a water, or I guess they are above us, but are they also in, in like a prison

01:32:39.380 below us within, within the water, within the ocean there, Tartarus is, is on the ocean

01:32:44.040 floor.

01:32:44.960 And, and the idea of salting something, you salt the earth when you don't want anything

01:32:48.980 to grow there, you salt the ocean.

01:32:50.860 Although, you know, some of the seas are heavily salted as well, but some of them aren't.

01:32:55.820 So it's like the ocean is something very different than, uh, these lakes, seas, rivers

01:33:02.080 that, you know, the, the people would have been sailing back then.

01:33:05.700 It's, they're much smaller.

01:33:06.720 The salinity is going to be much lower.

01:33:09.540 Something's going on.

01:33:10.540 Something's definitely going on with the oceans below in like these huge oceans and the ones

01:33:14.700 above.

01:33:15.020 I'm just trying to like parse that out.

01:33:16.640 So I have no real argument.

01:33:18.080 I'm just saying it's okay.

01:33:19.620 What is it?

01:33:20.100 What is it?

01:33:20.520 It's very interesting.

01:33:21.160 Cause, um, so if you look in, in the Bible, uh, in biblical cosmology, also, you're going

01:33:27.120 to have a shield being inside the earth.

01:33:30.200 One side would be Abraham's bosom, the other side being paradise.

01:33:32.940 Right?

01:33:33.380 So you have that in Luke 16, you know, talked about that.

01:33:36.460 Uh, if you look at what the Bible says about the underworld, it's always down.

01:33:40.280 You're going down to the underworld that, you know, on biblical cosmology, there's only

01:33:43.760 one way up, which is like, let's say on this, you have an up and you have a down.

01:33:48.620 So when Jesus ascended to heaven, he went up to heaven.

01:33:51.640 And when he sent it into the earth, descended, it means he went down.

01:33:55.400 Okay.

01:33:55.800 So when he went into the earth, that's what it means.

01:33:57.980 It says the lower parts of the earth.

01:33:59.880 What does that mean?

01:34:00.860 Well, shield is inside the earth below shield would be Tartarus, which is where the fallen

01:34:06.280 angels that had sex with women in Genesis six, four would be locked away.

01:34:10.580 And they are in time, space and time.

01:34:13.460 The reason why I tell you that is how is it a punishment if they're outside of space and

01:34:17.060 time, what they are, they are locked in Tartarus in the earth, locked in chains, physically

01:34:24.240 locked because what did they do?

01:34:25.640 They shed their Oketarian to come to the earth.

01:34:28.080 Oketarian means their heavenly body.

01:34:30.060 You find this in the book of Jude.

01:34:31.920 The angels shed their Oketarian or the abode, Oketarian in the Greek, heavenly bodies to

01:34:38.020 come to the earth to have sex with women, which means they shed their heavenly bodies to

01:34:43.080 come and do this.

01:34:43.880 So now they are locked in the earth.

01:34:45.820 Are they locked in the earth as angels or are they locked in the earth as their, their,

01:34:49.800 their heaven or their earthly bodies, which is what they did to be able to have sex with

01:34:53.600 these women.

01:34:54.380 Now, if you look at Hebrews 13, two, it also says that you never know when you're entertaining

01:34:58.160 a stranger, entertaining an angel, entertain strangers.

01:35:01.600 You might be entertaining an angel unaware.

01:35:03.980 And also, if you look in Sodom and Gomorrah, the angels came, they're walking, they're able

01:35:07.940 to grab Lot.

01:35:08.900 They're able to eat with Lot.

01:35:10.180 They're able to have a conversation with Lot.

01:35:11.940 They're able to speak to him.

01:35:12.960 People look at them as if they are people, attractive men, but they are in men's bodies.

01:35:18.940 That's what happens when angels come to the earth.

01:35:20.800 They are in human form.

01:35:22.320 Ok, so it's very interesting.

01:35:24.520 But yeah, it says in the book of Jude and in also second Peter that they are locked in

01:35:30.040 the earth, right?

01:35:31.720 Not locked in another dimension.

01:35:34.440 Not locked in black holes.

01:35:36.700 It says that they're locked in the earth.

01:35:38.720 And then Sheol and, you know, the Hebrews believed that Sheol was down in the earth.

01:35:43.100 So that's why you have people like Timothy Albarino and people that believe in the globe

01:35:47.480 telling you probably that where is hell located?

01:35:50.220 This is what I do with people that believe in the globe.

01:35:51.940 Not saying that it's bad, like they're evil.

01:35:54.300 No.

01:35:54.780 All I'm saying is, okay, so where is hell located?

01:35:57.940 And they'll tell you, well, hell is located in another dimension.

01:36:01.260 Well, okay, give me the Hebrew word for dimension.

01:36:03.500 There is no Hebrew word for dimension.

01:36:05.080 Okay, cool.

01:36:05.960 Well, where is hell located?

01:36:07.560 Biblically.

01:36:07.980 It's always located down, down in the underworld, the lower parts of the earth, Sheol.

01:36:14.820 What is, where does the Hebrews believe?

01:36:16.520 The Hebrews believe that it was down.

01:36:18.440 Just like when Samuel came up from Sheol and when Saul was trying to go to a median and

01:36:26.440 bring Samuel up, it doesn't say that Samuel came from outer space.

01:36:31.060 It says he came up from down in the earth because where was he located?

01:36:35.580 He was located in Abraham's bosom, which is talked about.

01:36:39.280 It was paradise.

01:36:40.420 And then what's between it?

01:36:41.500 A great cavern.

01:36:42.300 And what's on the other side?

01:36:43.920 Sheol, where the rich man was saying that there was fire and that he was looking for

01:36:49.560 one drop of water on his tongue, but he's able to see Father Abraham and speak to him

01:36:53.840 where he has all five senses, that's Sheol.

01:36:56.900 Okay, so I just think that I take the Bible literal.

01:37:01.360 I read it word for word.

01:37:02.240 I don't add to the word of God like Proverbs 30 verse 5 says.

01:37:06.280 I take it literal and I take it as serious and I take it as the literal word of God.

01:37:11.820 That's why it says all scriptures inspired by God.

01:37:15.020 That's the way I take it and I read it in a way where I take all my preconceived biases

01:37:21.920 that I've ever learned in school or from anything from man and I place them to the side.

01:37:26.160 And when I read the Bible, I read it from a perspective of, okay, this is God speaking

01:37:31.020 to me, right?

01:37:32.000 And what is God saying?

01:37:33.520 And when I break all this stuff down, God is not telling me that we're in a space vacuum

01:37:38.200 going 66,600 miles an hour around the sun, going 440,000 miles an hour, chasing the sun

01:37:44.080 and us spinning 1,000 miles an hour.

01:37:46.320 He says the earth is fixed and immovable.

01:37:48.420 What's moving?

01:37:49.220 The sun and the moon.

01:37:50.460 And who controls that?

01:37:52.060 Well, God controls that.

01:37:53.040 Who controls the weather?

01:37:54.240 In several parts of the Bible, it says that God controls the weather.

01:37:57.100 I'm going to stop it from raining because you disobeyed my Sabbath.

01:38:00.220 I'm going to stop this.

01:38:01.560 Jesus, what does he do?

01:38:02.620 He controls the weather when he's on.

01:38:04.480 There's the seas are getting crazy.

01:38:06.940 The weather's going crazy.

01:38:07.960 Jesus stops the storm, which is the same thing that God can do.

01:38:12.000 So that's like claiming to be God without actually saying that he is God, right?

01:38:15.100 So where are you at on like portals?

01:38:19.080 Because I don't know if there's like undeniable proof of it, but I know that there are people

01:38:22.940 that are after this sort of technology and they're doing it.

01:38:25.520 Like, you know, CERN is a good example.

01:38:27.860 They're doing something.

01:38:28.760 And to the best of my knowledge, this is very like terrestrial flat, but they're building

01:38:33.760 a thing which seems like it can take you, I don't even have correct words for it, up

01:38:40.640 or most likely down in like this lower dimension, but they're doing it right here flat.

01:38:47.480 You know what I'm saying?

01:38:48.440 Yeah.

01:38:49.000 Okay.

01:38:49.580 So if you look at Elijah, right?

01:38:52.220 Elijah in the Bible, he got taken up to heaven, right?

01:38:55.280 He didn't die.

01:38:56.280 Okay.

01:38:56.720 Okay.

01:38:57.440 Elijah is with Elisha, which is his counterpart.

01:39:01.380 And Elisha is like, dude, there's like a whole army right there.

01:39:05.100 How are we going to go against this army?

01:39:06.800 And Elijah says, Lord, unleash the veil so Elisha can see.

01:39:11.500 Takes the veil away and up on the mountains, dude, there's a bunch of angels with chariots

01:39:16.880 over that army.

01:39:19.680 So Elisha says, now do you see that what's happening in the spiritual?

01:39:26.100 So yes, of course, there's before they were able to speak to angels, you know, before the

01:39:31.660 old Testament, but God, he took that away.

01:39:33.440 As soon as Genesis six happened, he took that away.

01:39:35.740 Now, sometimes angels did visit people after that, but they're not able to kind of have

01:39:40.180 these conversations with angels and talk to them like, like I think it was before.

01:39:43.660 So yes, there's a spiritual, but we're not able to see that there's a veil that has to

01:39:48.060 be lifted for us to be able to see that.

01:39:50.000 So there is.

01:39:51.180 So if you want to call that another dimension, but the demons don't have to travel, the demons

01:39:56.440 don't have to travel through a portal to be tempting you and to be doing, they're around

01:40:00.860 you and they're here.

01:40:02.280 And right now they're probably trying to make it.

01:40:04.100 So I don't say something and you don't say something to, to give glory to God, but,

01:40:07.540 but we have the Holy spirit helping us to do that.

01:40:09.540 So there's the angels are here as well, right?

01:40:12.280 The angels are here that people say guardian angels.

01:40:14.640 I believe the angels are here.

01:40:15.700 And I believe when you pray to an angel, he's a messenger.

01:40:18.340 He goes and delivers the message to God.

01:40:20.300 And that's what is talked about in Daniel.

01:40:23.140 So I think there is angels around us, right?

01:40:26.360 And there's demons as well.

01:40:28.140 And Satan is also like a roaring lion, ready to pounce.

01:40:30.840 He doesn't need to travel through a portal to come and see you because even in Job one

01:40:35.040 six, when God is, when he's presenting himself for God, he says, where have you been?

01:40:39.540 He says, I've been to and fro in the earth and on the earth.

01:40:43.880 He's speaking to people, right?

01:40:45.840 And are trying to tempt people, right?

01:40:47.700 So that's interesting, Josh, because a lot of what we, so, you know, we have this upcoming

01:40:52.440 event, Bohemian Grove.

01:40:54.400 We, we jokingly named it two days, one portal because it's funny.

01:40:58.040 But this idea of like portals, portals, portals comes up a lot.

01:41:01.360 And the way you just described it there, where it's like, if you want to call that another

01:41:04.860 dimension, maybe that's fine.

01:41:06.080 But the idea that there is a veil and we cannot perceive the spiritual realm, but it is happening

01:41:11.160 all around us is something that I also say.

01:41:13.420 So it's like, if it's happening all around us and you can't perceive it, do you necessarily

01:41:17.100 need to punch a dimensional gateway into it?

01:41:19.480 Or is that some shit that we've been getting from Marvel, from sci-fi?

01:41:23.660 This, this concept of portals has penetrated the, the, the, the cultural conversation so

01:41:30.080 much that you can't really watch a movie now without getting your multiverse, without getting

01:41:33.580 your alternate dimensions.

01:41:34.660 But if you look at what's happening, you know, these, these UFOs, these UAPs, which I do think

01:41:39.720 are directly connected to this fallen angel, spiritual warfare, this, if it is a form of

01:41:45.460 technology, I think we were commissioned to build it.

01:41:47.820 These things inspired us and maybe whispered to us one thing or another, but where are they

01:41:51.820 coming from?

01:41:52.300 They're coming from the oceans.

01:41:53.520 And it's like, we got to then jump and say there's portals in the ocean, but you don't

01:41:58.960 really need to do that because you can go into the ocean and find subterranean caverns that

01:42:05.000 open up and are no, and are not, you know, uh, um, filled with water.

01:42:09.580 You can come out of a submersible and enter a cavern underneath the ocean.

01:42:13.280 That's completely dry.

01:42:15.080 Um, and, and if you combine that with maybe like a Whitley, not Whitley Stryber, uh, Phil

01:42:20.800 Schneider's story, which I know it's, it's not biblical, but it's just interesting because

01:42:24.760 I think it does kind of bolster that he's talking about being contracted by the government

01:42:30.180 to build, to build deep underground military bases.

01:42:32.820 And what he discovered down there were malicious entities that essentially gutted them like

01:42:38.320 a fish.

01:42:38.800 And the guy ended up, uh, you know, dying after, I don't even know how many unsuccessful murder

01:42:45.360 attempts.

01:42:45.760 They kept trying to kill this guy.

01:42:47.320 He had missing fingers.

01:42:48.780 Uh, his, his abdominal was just riddled with scar tissue because he was, you know, gutted

01:42:54.280 by one of these things.

01:42:55.040 Now you don't have to believe Phil Schneider, but what I'm saying is there was no portal.

01:43:00.280 He, he went down into the earth far enough for, um, for building purposes, you know, because

01:43:06.880 you have to dig quite deep for these deep underground military bases.

01:43:10.020 Somebody is contracted to make them right.

01:43:11.960 They are a real thing.

01:43:13.520 This guy was one of them.

01:43:14.440 And, um, and so for him to have gone, there was no portal.

01:43:18.620 There was no dimensional slip.

01:43:20.020 This was, you went into the earth and eventually among these caverns, you found something, uh,

01:43:25.760 that was non-human and not happy.

01:43:28.340 Now I'm not saying that those things are even real, but what I am saying is that, um, I recognize

01:43:34.440 the dimensional portal thing is a, and sometimes there is truth within these things, but we

01:43:42.620 get it predominantly from sci-fi.

01:43:44.220 We get it predominantly from, uh, from science fiction and from, uh, from Hollywood, you know,

01:43:50.340 in general.

01:43:50.960 So that, that is an interesting thing.

01:43:53.000 And we should be happy that we can't see the spiritual realm.

01:43:55.600 Cause you, cause you, can you imagine seeing whenever people see angels in the Bible, they

01:43:59.720 are terrified.

01:44:00.440 So imagine if you could see demons and angels.

01:44:02.880 Now, what happens is when you take hallucinogenic psychedelics, DMT, you are, you are, now you

01:44:08.820 are opening yourself up to, to be able to see the spiritual world in some ways, not saying

01:44:13.080 that all of it is true with what the people are seeing, but sometimes people are seeing,

01:44:17.080 uh, clowns, which some people say Nephilim look like they're seeing all these different

01:44:22.560 things.

01:44:23.180 And, and you're basically saying, Holy spirit, let me put you to the side.

01:44:26.480 I want to go into the spirit world and enjoy, and enjoy that.

01:44:29.440 Yeah.

01:44:29.960 And you're seeing stuff like that.

01:44:31.460 So I just believe that, uh, the demons and the angels, they're here, right?

01:44:35.880 And the devil's here.

01:44:37.140 We, and we just aren't able to, to, to see them, but the demons are looking for a vessel

01:44:42.020 to inhabit.

01:44:42.940 And when you invite them in, they come as long as you're, you know, if you're saved, obviously

01:44:47.560 that's not happening.

01:44:48.240 You're, you're getting oppressed, but not possessed, but that's, so they're here.

01:44:52.000 We don't, I know this is wildly.

01:44:53.580 I know this is wildly speculative, um, and, and, you know, but that's mostly what I do

01:44:58.360 on this show.

01:44:59.220 Um, but I can't help, but wonder, like, if you ever were exposed to the very cliche version

01:45:04.320 of a portal, you know, some, some oblong, uh, oval shaped, uh, window opens up, it's

01:45:10.360 got, you know, all kinds of lightning or whatever around the edges and clearly perceivably through

01:45:15.060 the center of it is a different place altogether.

01:45:17.440 Uh, you know, your, your brain, because we're hardwired to think that way, because we've

01:45:21.780 been kind of programmed to think that way, propaganda and such, um, would say this window

01:45:28.200 that I'm looking through has bridged a gap between incredibly long distances.

01:45:32.880 But I wonder if it would be more accurate if that sort of thing did exist.

01:45:35.720 And you did see that just to say, this is not a bridging of a gap between distances.

01:45:40.340 This is, uh, uh, a lens through which you can see what is actually immediately around

01:45:44.720 you, uh, but you cannot perceive it at any other moment.

01:45:47.780 So it's not that it's bridging two distant galaxies as much as it's, um, showing you,

01:45:54.160 uh, maybe like a light spectrum that you don't have the ability to perceive, you know, because

01:45:58.500 I, I do imagine that if everything does exist as light and frequency and energy, um, and we

01:46:04.660 obviously are limited in our ability to see the color spectrum, there's, there's a ton

01:46:08.760 on it that we're, we're unaware of.

01:46:10.420 We don't have the, the, the cones and rods in our eyes that make it capable to, to see

01:46:14.960 that sort of thing.

01:46:16.040 Um, then there's much happening around us that is unperceivable by us.

01:46:20.380 And if, if everything is light and energy and vibration, then there is much light and

01:46:25.460 energy and vibration that we do not see.

01:46:27.280 And if these things exist in that, then I don't see the need is in order.

01:46:31.700 In other words, what I'm saying is I don't see the need to have to traverse through a dimensional

01:46:36.820 gateway to some far distant place where these things exist.

01:46:40.240 We know they exist around us.

01:46:42.300 Yes.

01:46:43.120 Yeah.

01:46:43.300 And the Bible describes them.

01:46:44.440 Definitely.

01:46:45.020 Um, that's why it says we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but principalities of evil.

01:46:48.780 Right.

01:46:49.100 So they're there.

01:46:50.760 It's just, I think that a portal would be like a doorway, right.

01:46:53.800 For, for them to come into the physical world.

01:46:56.540 Uh, you know, and, and that's what I think they're trying to tap into.

01:46:59.480 And I think you had a good point when you're talking about CERN and what they're trying

01:47:02.900 to do is they're trying to hit particles together to create people say black holes, but I think

01:47:08.080 they're trying to actually tear the veil and bring in these entities.

01:47:11.420 And, you know, when you read revelation, where, where do these entities come from?

01:47:15.820 They come from inside the earth, right?

01:47:17.780 The bottomless pit and the earth, you know, there's, there's so many things that people

01:47:22.200 don't understand.

01:47:22.680 There's, there's this physical world that we live in that we, we talk and we engage and

01:47:26.960 we get to enjoy, which, which the demons are so jealous of us.

01:47:29.940 Cause we get to love our wives.

01:47:31.020 We get to, even the angels were jealous of us cause we get to love our wives, have emotions

01:47:35.540 and have free will, right.

01:47:36.740 So we were so blessed.

01:47:38.340 We'll be able to be able to have children.

01:47:39.700 Right.

01:47:40.380 And, um, so I think it's, it's just, there's a physical world and there's a spiritual.

01:47:44.700 So when it, when you talk about portals, I think, uh, a good way would it say it would

01:47:47.960 be like a doorway where they're trying to tear the veil and bring these things into the physical

01:47:53.380 world.

01:47:53.900 And that's very, yeah, that's, that's revelation type stuff when, you know, when they try to start

01:47:58.420 doing that, but, well, there are angels that are in prison beneath the Euphrates and, and

01:48:02.740 the idea is, you know, uh, prophetically speaking, when the Euphrates dries up, that these will

01:48:07.800 be loosed and, um, and the Euphrates is drying up and it's just interesting.

01:48:12.660 Cause we don't look at that at all and go like, and there's a dimensional gateway beneath

01:48:16.980 the Euphrates rivers that will bring you into, you're like, no, that it's interesting that

01:48:20.740 the Euphrates is drying up and the Bible says there's angels that are trapped under there.

01:48:23.760 And, and seeing that happen in real life, um, watching it actually dry up in real time,

01:48:29.860 I realized that my brain doesn't go at all to, there's a dimensional gateway.

01:48:33.760 I go, oh shit, this river's drying up and there's angels beneath it.

01:48:36.400 Like, you know what I mean?

01:48:37.200 And the Bible doesn't say that literally underneath it, right?

01:48:40.360 Yes.

01:48:40.640 Literally underneath it, that they're in another dimension and they have to be, no.

01:48:44.080 And even when it talks about the, the, the, the earth, okay.

01:48:46.840 In the book of numbers, it talks about God opened up the earth and swallowed these people

01:48:50.960 because they were, they were trying to cause a revolt against, uh, against Moses.

01:48:54.640 Like, I think the earth opened up and they fell into the earth.

01:48:57.140 Right.

01:48:57.440 And I think Sheol is in there.

01:48:58.580 Right.

01:48:59.120 Um, also, if you look at when Jesus died on the cross, it says that, that these, that

01:49:03.660 the, if you read this part, it's really interesting.

01:49:06.040 It says that the saints of old that were dead or asleep came alive and they, and they showed

01:49:12.340 up to people throughout the city of Jerusalem.

01:49:14.780 Okay.

01:49:15.180 Very interesting.

01:49:16.020 Where did they come from in the earth?

01:49:17.660 Uh, that's where Sheol was located.

01:49:20.680 And then Jesus, he ascended, uh, before he ascended on high, he descended to the lower

01:49:25.100 parts of the earth.

01:49:25.940 Where did he go?

01:49:26.880 He went into paradise to get all the people that died in the old Testament and the people

01:49:31.240 that were saved and bring him where to heaven.

01:49:34.260 No one was allowed into heaven until Jesus died on the cross.

01:49:37.380 Um, now did Enoch go to heaven?

01:49:39.480 It says he went up.

01:49:40.740 Did he go to heaven?

01:49:41.560 I don't know, but it doesn't say he went to heaven.

01:49:43.520 It says he went up.

01:49:44.620 Elijah.

01:49:45.240 It also says he never died.

01:49:46.400 He ended up going on a chariot where up those two maybe made it to heaven.

01:49:50.560 But the ones that the prophets of old, it says they went where Abraham's bosom, which

01:49:54.900 is in Luke 16.

01:49:55.860 If you read that story, you'll be able to see that that is a, a look into, into shield

01:50:00.800 what's in the earth.

01:50:01.580 But yeah, I'm, I'm getting to the time where, um, my kids are going to come downstairs.

01:50:05.840 Yes.

01:50:06.220 Yes.

01:50:06.800 We're keeping you for, it's been, it's been almost two hours.

01:50:09.580 Um, no worries.

01:50:10.220 It was perfect.

01:50:11.020 Uh, everything that I went through, I think, uh, I kind of went through everything.

01:50:14.120 Uh, the only other parts I would talk about is, uh, people getting taken up to heaven.

01:50:19.220 There's one way up and one way down.

01:50:20.960 Right.

01:50:21.220 So we already talked about that.

01:50:22.540 We covered everything, but the six is real quick before we end, I'll go into the sixes.

01:50:25.980 So, uh, we already know that six, six, six is a number that, you know, number of man.

01:50:30.720 Right.

01:50:30.960 So we have, uh, every one mile is eight inches squared is the curvature of the earth.

01:50:35.780 So if you go a one mile, it's actually 0.66 of a foot.

01:50:39.620 Uh, and if you go into like a, a 10 miles, it's actually going to be 66.6 feet of curvature.

01:50:45.720 If you go 100 miles, it's 6,666, uh, feet of curvature.

01:50:50.420 Right.

01:50:50.740 So we have that.

01:50:51.420 And then, um, the earth's circumference is 600 times six times six nautical miles.

01:50:56.880 Uh, we have the earth orbiting the sun.

01:50:59.400 I already said at 66,600 miles an hour, Isaac Newton came up with the theory of gravity first

01:51:04.800 started writing it in 1666.

01:51:07.060 The force of gravity on earth is 666 newtons.

01:51:10.480 The speed of sound is 666 knots.

01:51:13.200 Uh, the diameter of the moon is six times six times 60.

01:51:16.240 The distance to the moon is six times 60 times 666 miles.

01:51:20.300 The art of Antarctic and Arctic celestial sphere is 66 degrees, North latitude, 66 degrees,

01:51:26.660 South latitude.

01:51:27.460 And then you have our 66.6 degrees.

01:51:29.640 Sorry.

01:51:30.320 And then the surface and temperature of Uranus now minus is negative six times six times

01:51:34.020 six degrees.

01:51:34.980 All right.

01:51:35.540 And there's actually even more to it.

01:51:37.720 I just, I only named as many as I could in this amount of time.

01:51:40.340 So it kind of ties it up right there, Josh, what you just laid out that, that, that thing

01:51:45.800 is that screams, Hey, pump the brakes and, and maybe consider what you've been taught

01:51:50.660 is, is not reality.

01:51:52.380 I mean, that is, uh, insulting what you just read, you know, that they would, they would

01:51:57.560 hide all that in this data that claims to describe the realm that we inhabit.

01:52:02.620 And it's all just encoded six, six, six, six.

01:52:05.000 I mean, what a slap in the face.

01:52:06.980 Yes.

01:52:07.440 A lot of it.

01:52:08.040 And, uh, even with, uh, if you look at operation Dominique, uh, that's another one where

01:52:13.580 they actually took Thor missiles and they tried to blow up the, the fixed shell belonging

01:52:17.860 to the Lord.

01:52:18.500 That's what Dominique Chama means.

01:52:20.440 Dominique means belonging to the Lord.

01:52:22.120 Uh, Chama means fixed shell.

01:52:23.800 It's operation fishbowl, right?

01:52:25.540 A fishbowl is a hole on top and, and a glass connecting to the flat land.

01:52:30.060 Right.

01:52:30.340 So that's another way that they flip, they're flipping, uh, the most high off.

01:52:34.600 Right.

01:52:35.960 Interesting.

01:52:36.440 But I also like to go over this before I end.

01:52:38.580 It says, uh, Genesis two versus one through four says, thus the heavens and the earth and all

01:52:42.820 the hosts of them were finished.

01:52:44.060 And on the seventh day, God ended his work, which he has done.

01:52:46.780 And he rested on the seventh day from his work, which he has done that God blessed the

01:52:50.840 seventh day and sanctified it because it is he that rested from all his work, which he

01:52:54.300 had done and created and made.

01:52:55.800 This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created in the day that

01:53:00.940 the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.

01:53:03.140 So what God is saying is that this is the history of the, of it and that his work is finished.

01:53:09.260 Okay.

01:53:09.660 So that's what he's saying.

01:53:11.120 He's saying that the stars are not new stars are not being formed and all this difference

01:53:15.620 have you saying that the work and the host of them are finished.

01:53:18.760 And last, before we end, I'd like to go to Colossians one, uh, 15 through 18, uh, make

01:53:25.100 sure we worship the creator, not the created.

01:53:28.140 Okay.

01:53:28.440 So he says, uh, Colossians one 15 says he is the image of the invisible God, the first

01:53:33.360 born overall creation for by him.

01:53:35.120 All things were created that are in heaven that are on earth, visible, invisible, whether

01:53:39.400 thrones or dominions or principalities of evil, all things were created through him and for

01:53:44.000 him.

01:53:44.300 And he is before all things and in him, all things consist.

01:53:47.200 And he is the head of the body of the church who is the beginning, the firstborn from the

01:53:50.900 dead and all things.

01:53:52.380 He, he may have prompt preeminence.

01:53:54.380 This is speaking of Jesus.

01:53:55.740 So it says that he is the image of the invisible God.

01:53:58.160 We're made in whose image Jesus is image, right?

01:54:00.840 We're by, by him.

01:54:01.700 All things were created that are in heaven that are on earth and visible, invisible, whether

01:54:06.140 thrones or dominions or principalities or powers saying that Jesus, okay, through the

01:54:12.040 word was created.

01:54:13.320 All these things, all things were created through him and for him.

01:54:17.060 He is before all things in him, all things consist.

01:54:21.020 So this is speaking of Jesus, right?

01:54:23.340 So we need to understand that and understand who we should be pointing people to.

01:54:27.760 Uh, we, a lot of us in the flat earth community, we worship the, we make flat earth an idol.

01:54:33.500 Don't do that.

01:54:34.540 All I do is just try to tell you what the Bible says compared to science, but I am here to

01:54:38.960 worship the creator, not the created.

01:54:41.580 I like to point you guys to make sure that you understand who was, how it was created.

01:54:45.960 God, the father through the word said, exist, firmament exist land, which means that he created

01:54:53.540 it through the word.

01:54:54.600 Who is, who's the word?

01:54:56.020 John one, one, the word is Jesus, right?

01:54:58.260 And also the Holy spirit hovers over the face of the water.

01:55:01.480 Okay.

01:55:01.840 So that is in the beginning.

01:55:02.920 We have three.

01:55:03.940 That's why it's Elohim, which is plural.

01:55:06.320 We have three in one.

01:55:08.160 I don't like to push the Trinity on people.

01:55:09.700 You can either believe Unitarian Trinity or oneness, whatever you believe.

01:55:12.940 I'm not trying to talk about, but all I'm trying to do is point you guys to the reason

01:55:16.880 why I do a podcast in the first place.

01:55:19.140 It's Christian and conspiracy because I take conspiracy, use it as bait to suck you in

01:55:25.220 to the, to the Bible.

01:55:26.880 I want to show you the real truth.

01:55:29.000 And, and at the end of all these rabbit holes that we chase with conspiracies, um, you have

01:55:33.680 to have something in the end.

01:55:34.860 The end, the ones that created the conspiracies is the devil and his demons.

01:55:39.180 The one that the, the, the answer at the end of these conspiracies is the Bible and is

01:55:43.480 Jesus.

01:55:43.820 You need to be led to that to understand the real truth, have the Bible as your foundation,

01:55:48.600 have Jesus as your truth.

01:55:50.240 And then when you dig into these conspiracies, you are, you are coming from a basis of truth

01:55:54.540 instead of just trying to dig into these hollow conspiracies and then be fear porn to death

01:55:59.460 and not have any answer at the end.

01:56:00.780 So that's the reason why I operate.

01:56:02.840 And I think that's also where you guys are operating on that level as well.

01:56:06.240 Exactly it, Josh.

01:56:07.340 Uh, I came from that place.

01:56:08.840 I, I was in conspiracy for a long time.

01:56:10.800 Everything you just said is absolutely true.

01:56:13.400 Um, and I just hope that anybody that is out there in conspiracy land, it's a lot of fun,

01:56:18.160 but if you start to look through the biblical lens, it brings everything together and it makes

01:56:22.900 a lot more sense.

01:56:23.660 And you realize that, yeah, the thing that you're focusing on, it's the, it's the machinations

01:56:28.260 of the adversary.

01:56:29.100 It's the machinations of, of, uh, of, of the, you know, of the fallen of Satan.

01:56:33.760 And so, um, all of, I agree with that wholeheartedly, Nephilim death squad.

01:56:40.040 It's in your guys' name or your show, the Nephilim go through the Bible and we'll, we'll have

01:56:44.940 a Nephilim show.

01:56:46.000 But what you see is this, this cosmic battle between Satan and God, God obviously wins,

01:56:51.340 but Satan is allowed.

01:56:52.880 He has, uh, he's allowed to do these certain things and the Nephilim are part of it.

01:56:57.740 You'll see it throughout the word where God is going against the Nephilim, killing all

01:57:01.580 men, women, the children of tribes, uh, the, the flood, all these things were happening

01:57:05.680 because of Genesis six, four.

01:57:08.240 So we'll get into that next time.

01:57:09.800 We'll go into the Nephilim and I'll just go verse by verse.

01:57:12.000 Like I did with this, if you guys, beautiful, beautiful.

01:57:14.800 We'd love to have you back, uh, looking forward very much to that conversation.

01:57:18.240 And thank you for spending as much time, uh, uh, you know, two hours is, uh, especially

01:57:21.680 at this time in the morning.

01:57:23.100 Um, I really appreciate it.

01:57:24.800 One more time for the audience, Josh, where can everybody find and, and check out your work?

01:57:29.380 Okay.

01:57:29.820 So on, uh, on YouTube is Josh Monday music and podcast.

01:57:32.860 And on Spotify, it's Josh Monday, Christian and conspiracy podcast.

01:57:36.120 I have like 236 episodes out and then, uh, you could go to cultic conspiracy and every

01:57:42.100 Sunday there's a episode released.

01:57:43.900 And every Wednesday there's an episode released on, um, and I'm just going through the Bible

01:57:48.700 doing commentary and I'm not a pastor by any means or, or anything like that.

01:57:53.720 I never went to seminary school, but it's coming from a conspiratorial lens.

01:57:57.560 And also from, um, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm doing studies like two days a week.

01:58:02.000 I study, uh, all day at work.

01:58:03.840 I have my earpiece and I'm studying the word and, and, and then I, and then I do that show.

01:58:07.720 And then the other two days I'm studying the, the new Testament, right?

01:58:10.880 So the old Testament, new Testament.

01:58:12.160 So it's, it's, it'll, it'll assist you guys.

01:58:14.880 And, and if you're a conspiracy conspiracy theorist, that's a Christian, it'll also help

01:58:19.320 you to, uh, cause when you hear the word of God, it creates faith, right?

01:58:23.140 Uh, that's how faith is created.

01:58:24.720 So that's what I'm trying to do basically is it assists people in, um, building that shield

01:58:29.320 of faith.

01:58:29.740 And then also the word of God is the offensive weapon.

01:58:31.940 So I'm trying to get people familiar with the word.

01:58:34.880 There's things in the Bible that people will tell you through tradition that you won't even

01:58:38.120 find in the Bible.

01:58:39.300 And, uh, that's, what's crazy.

01:58:40.820 That's what, that's what I'm learning.

01:58:42.180 People will tell you things that you thought were true, but you can't even find the chapter

01:58:46.520 and verse for it because it comes down through tradition.

01:58:49.440 And you might find it might be extra biblical texts.

01:58:52.200 It might be Josephus.

01:58:53.340 It might be, uh, and, and, and, and all these different people and, and it's not biblical.

01:59:00.000 And it's really interesting when you go through the Bible, you have to do that old Testament,

01:59:04.600 new Testament, so that you understand this.

01:59:06.580 So when people ask you a question and you're trying to defend your faith, you have the actual

01:59:10.780 answer from the word instead of somebody's made up doctrine or someone's, uh, uh, opinion,

01:59:17.380 let me tell you, that's a, that's hugely important because as somebody, I consider myself a new

01:59:22.500 Christian and, um, and I've seen enough to go, this is really important.

01:59:27.040 And this is the lens that I should be looking at things through.

01:59:29.500 Um, but since I am new and it's obviously, uh, there's so much information there to go

01:59:34.620 through, uh, in order to engage in these conversations and really understand your faith

01:59:38.640 and understand God, um, uh, you know, these kinds of tools are, are huge, especially when

01:59:42.940 it comes to, like I said, I, I, um, besides whatever the hell went with me,

01:59:47.300 when I was trying to read the Bible, uh, which is very embarrassing and strange.

01:59:50.720 Um, the language is just, it's dense, it's dense.

01:59:54.020 And so, uh, you know, that's, it's nice to know that within this community of like conspiracy

01:59:58.860 Christian content, um, there's a lot of people that are there to try to help everybody else

02:00:07.000 understand and, and help ourselves understand, uh, along the way.

02:00:09.960 So a great resource.

02:00:11.360 And once again, Josh, I just want to thank you for, for spending time with us in the audience.

02:00:14.840 Thank you.

02:00:15.860 And then you guys witnessed it.

02:00:16.900 We said C's, right?

02:00:18.520 You brought up C's.

02:00:19.520 So then you have to look at what word, what C's means in the, in the, in the Hebrew.

02:00:23.120 And it seemed like it's, it's only talking about C's, like, like, like you were talking

02:00:26.800 about.

02:00:27.140 So it's like, you have to break down that word.

02:00:29.240 And then you start going on a chase for what the word means.

02:00:33.240 And it's very important.

02:00:34.480 And that thing is, we're so blessed because we have the Greek, we have the Hebrew, we have

02:00:38.360 all these different translations.

02:00:39.520 We, we do, we, there's no excuses for us.

02:00:42.580 Okay.

02:00:43.040 We, all we have is all these different resources to be able to study when back then they had

02:00:47.840 to have somebody read the Bible to them because they couldn't even read.

02:00:50.740 So we're so blessed right now.

02:00:52.480 And, uh, with information that we could sit there and dig conspiracies all day long.

02:00:57.140 But I think the, the most important thing is to, to find out the word of God and for your

02:01:02.080 podcast, it's going to help you as well, because you have people bring up something, something

02:01:05.420 like, oh, the stars or the Maserat or the, you know, chapter and verse of exactly what

02:01:09.920 they're talking about.

02:01:10.720 And then you go back to the Bible, you start reading it and it's going to help you, you

02:01:14.800 guys as well for your show, you know, because you have somebody who brings something up and

02:01:18.620 then you have all this, this dense information about what they just brought up certain subjects,

02:01:23.060 you know?

02:01:23.280 So I'm telling you, it'll help you guys vastly as well.

02:01:26.600 Agreed.

02:01:26.980 To read.

02:01:27.400 Agreed.

02:01:28.440 Um, all right.

02:01:29.300 Well, I think that's a good place to bring it in for a landing top.

02:01:31.600 Do we have anything else?

02:01:33.480 Uh, that's it.

02:01:34.280 We'll see you guys tomorrow.

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02:01:43.560 Well then let's release this.

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Nephilim Death Squad - May 12, 2025

163： Biblical Cosmology 101 w⧸ Josh Monday

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