Nephilim Death Squad - 189： Blackmail, Bloodlines, and the Abyss w⧸ Austin Picard

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00:01:12.440 Top laughs of productions.

00:01:13.740 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:01:22.960 Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:01:27.500 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:35.180 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely normal.

00:01:42.280 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:01:43.440 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:01:44.600 It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.

00:01:50.140 They're controlling us now, and no one's talking about how they made a spot of these slaves.

00:01:54.960 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:02:15.600 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

00:02:18.620 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

00:02:21.720 Before we get into today's guest, I just want to remind all of you people, all of you fine, fine people,

00:02:26.900 maybe we stop calling them disgusting pores, huh?

00:02:29.420 How about we say this?

00:02:30.120 You know, that comes up as flagged.

00:02:31.600 Like, I've been doing a lot of editing, and they flag it, yeah, pores, but they spell it P-O-R-E-S,

00:02:37.220 and it's like, I think he's calling them pore in a derogatory manner.

00:02:40.500 That's interesting.

00:02:40.940 He definitely is, but I never block it.

00:02:42.760 I'm not saying that your pores are clogged.

00:02:44.140 No, I leave it like that because I want them to know, but it is mean.

00:02:47.200 I think it's mean.

00:02:48.140 Well, okay, so we just want to let all of you lovely, wonderful people

00:02:51.200 who support us, no.

00:02:52.960 Financially challenged.

00:02:54.260 All you financially challenged people, sometime around the 30-minute mark,

00:02:57.540 we're going to be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad.

00:03:01.920 You can continue enjoying this conversation, engaging in the live chat,

00:03:05.100 as well as gaining access to our tremendous backlog of content,

00:03:09.120 which we are chipping away at.

00:03:11.240 Look at this shit.

00:03:12.660 Incredible, huh?

00:03:13.880 Yeah, mommy tier, daddy tier.

00:03:14.700 What does mommy tier get you?

00:03:16.000 Can you read that?

00:03:17.280 Nothing, but it's $1,500 a month.

00:03:19.460 No members, no members, $100 a month, daddy tier.

00:03:21.960 Zero members, can you believe that?

00:03:22.720 Nobody wants to be mommy and daddy.

00:03:24.380 It's pathetic.

00:03:25.500 It is.

00:03:26.020 We'll drink your breast milk, but only men.

00:03:28.200 We'll call you daddy for $100.

00:03:29.780 We'll call you mommy for $1,500.

00:03:32.100 That's a lot.

00:03:33.320 I mean, yeah, mommy's a special term,

00:03:37.300 and only real rich members get that.

00:03:40.280 Let's introduce mommy.

00:03:41.760 Can we introduce mommy?

00:03:44.060 Can we introduce mommy?

00:03:45.320 Yeah, let's welcome mommy to the stage.

00:03:47.860 Joining us today is mommy.

00:03:51.320 Back once again.

00:03:53.300 This is, I think, either the third or fourth appearance that mommy,

00:03:57.120 a.k.a.

00:03:57.700 One of our.

00:03:58.440 Austin Picard has made.

00:04:00.100 Our favorite guests.

00:04:01.040 One of our favorite guests to have on.

00:04:02.480 One of my favorite guests.

00:04:02.640 One of my favorite people.

00:04:03.220 Oh, my God.

00:04:04.740 Before we get into the conversation, Austin,

00:04:06.980 can you let everybody know where they can find your work?

00:04:10.900 Yeah, for sure, brother.

00:04:11.760 As always, man, you guys know how much I love you guys.

00:04:15.560 And lately, it's felt like I'm kind of the child in a sort of divorced type of situation.

00:04:24.540 You know what I mean?

00:04:25.120 Like.

00:04:26.660 We are mommy.

00:04:28.240 We are mommy.

00:04:30.020 Exactly.

00:04:30.680 We are mommy.

00:04:31.160 I've been missing you guys, honestly.

00:04:32.500 But, yeah, you guys can all find my work at The Underclass Podcast.

00:04:37.400 And the best place to support me is definitely my Patreon.

00:04:41.640 Patreon.com slash The Underclass Podcast.

00:04:44.400 Because essentially, like at the lowest level, the $3 tier,

00:04:48.700 you still gain access to the paywalled show that I have with Sam Tripoli and Brad Binkley called Whatever This Is.

00:04:55.200 Nice.

00:04:55.520 And, yeah, man, it's been a lot of fun, honestly.

00:04:58.940 I think this.

00:04:59.520 You also do, you do another show with one of my favorite people.

00:05:02.020 What's that show called?

00:05:03.400 Already Dead with my brother, Jose Galison.

00:05:07.480 Sweet, sweet Jose Galison.

00:05:09.740 And Jules, our shameless producer.

00:05:13.540 Loved you.

00:05:13.820 Who absolutely.

00:05:15.540 And honestly, he's been stepping up his game.

00:05:17.720 I love Jules, man.

00:05:18.680 He's the shit.

00:05:19.560 And it's hilarious seeing him on the ones and twos.

00:05:23.180 You know what I mean?

00:05:23.880 But he's going to help.

00:05:26.240 He's going to co-host on the 29th with me, actually.

00:05:28.900 We're going to have on Donut.

00:05:30.460 Yeah.

00:05:30.800 Because Jose's going to be gone.

00:05:33.060 So, yeah, yeah.

00:05:33.660 I was like, oh, shit.

00:05:35.060 We got to make that happen.

00:05:36.340 We just hit it off at Brogrove, honestly.

00:05:38.240 I love that guy.

00:05:39.080 That was a lot of fun.

00:05:40.300 Yeah.

00:05:40.600 I saw you guys.

00:05:41.780 They were doing the Spider-Man meme.

00:05:43.440 Like, there's like, you.

00:05:44.140 No, you.

00:05:44.720 And I was like, basically.

00:05:46.220 The whole fucking time.

00:05:46.580 Who did I invite here?

00:05:47.380 It was like, both of these guys.

00:05:48.760 When they were sitting on stage, I was.

00:05:50.640 I was shocked.

00:05:51.580 Because I know we've talked about it.

00:05:52.900 Yeah.

00:05:53.040 Like, they look very similar.

00:05:54.340 Like, you know, on screen.

00:05:55.820 When you guys were sitting next to each other.

00:05:57.660 Yeah.

00:05:57.980 That was.

00:05:58.880 That was alarming.

00:06:00.060 I felt like we had two MKUltra clone babies that, like.

00:06:05.080 Oh, my God.

00:06:05.720 Into the world.

00:06:06.620 And then somehow were reunited on stage.

00:06:08.440 It was.

00:06:08.900 It was jarring.

00:06:09.720 Like, I was running back and forth in the back.

00:06:12.000 And I was like.

00:06:12.640 I'd like to look on stage.

00:06:13.600 I was like, I don't have time for this shit.

00:06:14.760 Every time I looked at him, I grabbed for my gun.

00:06:16.560 And I just felt unsettled.

00:06:17.980 I didn't know what it was.

00:06:18.820 Oh, my God.

00:06:19.380 It was like, what is it?

00:06:20.260 What is it?

00:06:20.900 It was like, what is it?

00:06:22.020 Oswaldian, Kerry Thornley, Nazi breeding experiment or something.

00:06:25.260 I was like, one of these guys is going to try to assassinate us.

00:06:27.440 For sure.

00:06:27.880 That's why they were sent here.

00:06:29.440 No.

00:06:29.760 I found out he was a Jew.

00:06:31.380 And I got a little, you know, suspicious.

00:06:33.980 He's very suspicious of himself.

00:06:36.140 Right.

00:06:37.380 Fucking Donut.

00:06:39.020 It's really funny.

00:06:40.340 The first episode we ever did of the official Nephilim desk while we somehow got Donut.

00:06:45.420 Episode one, yeah.

00:06:46.520 Episode one.

00:06:47.460 It was like, hold on.

00:06:48.180 Where's my fucking.

00:06:49.540 Where's my button?

00:06:51.040 Episode one.

00:06:51.600 Oh, my God.

00:06:52.180 And I didn't know he was Jew.

00:06:55.120 And I kept saying anti-Semitic shit because at the time, that's what it was.

00:07:01.020 Oh, my God.

00:07:02.400 He just keeps smiling.

00:07:04.020 Yeah.

00:07:04.260 All the kids.

00:07:05.020 He was just like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

00:07:06.460 And you know what?

00:07:07.140 To his credit, he still.

00:07:09.100 He still.

00:07:09.800 I thought he was.

00:07:10.400 I think he's a little.

00:07:11.040 He was like a little suspicious.

00:07:11.920 But like, I was like, listen, man, I don't hate you.

00:07:13.540 I just thought it was funny.

00:07:14.900 No.

00:07:15.540 It actually.

00:07:17.000 Donut is a fascinating one because if you.

00:07:19.180 You know, he's actually called me before.

00:07:21.120 Um, to tell me like, hey, man, I'm going through it because I'm Jewish.

00:07:24.840 And, and I go, wow, uh, let's talk about it a little bit.

00:07:29.160 And so he had to, he, we logically helped him get through the woods on that.

00:07:35.640 Now he's in a place where he finds it funny, but he also realizes like anybody who's doing

00:07:39.440 super obsessive, high level Jew noticing all the time, there's, there's something else

00:07:44.360 going on there.

00:07:45.320 Uh, uh, so, but.

00:07:47.040 Wow.

00:07:47.520 It's freaking him out.

00:07:48.260 There's a thing right now that I'm, I'm looking up.

00:07:50.600 Cause as, as we're talking about the Jew stuff, uh, what did I say here?

00:07:54.540 Okay.

00:07:55.180 There's a, there's like a back and forth between, uh, GNN, the Gentile news network.

00:07:59.680 Cause that has a funny name.

00:08:00.540 I actually enjoy the account and, uh, Owen Benjamin.

00:08:03.360 And he's like, oh, I reached, I bodied him.

00:08:06.180 Uh, he bodied Owen Benjamin.

00:08:07.560 Cause Owen is saying that he thinks the psyop with this Epstein file stuff is, uh, to get

00:08:13.060 millions of people to ask for CP.

00:08:14.880 Yeah.

00:08:16.220 Interesting.

00:08:17.160 I don't know if that's exactly it, but I'm suspicious of what the push is.

00:08:22.860 And in classic fashion of this guy, he, he actually used to follow me because I was the

00:08:28.640 original noticer.

00:08:29.780 And then I stopped.

00:08:31.220 And this guy now has, let's see how many, uh, he's got a, wow.

00:08:35.500 Two, almost 200,000 followers purely from noticing Jews.

00:08:40.400 That's it.

00:08:40.900 Like there's no nothing.

00:08:42.620 I mean, it's, it's kind of funny, but there's no other content there.

00:08:45.800 And I'm like, I think after a while you should maybe like, if, if you've it's, I don't know

00:08:53.200 if you, if you're a comedian and all you do is one joke, the same joke all the time.

00:08:58.220 And now you're on Netflix.

00:08:59.780 I think you need to step back and go, what am I doing?

00:09:02.900 Why is this?

00:09:04.040 Can you pull this up on, on the screen top?

00:09:05.860 Uh, it's one of the things I'm sharing.

00:09:07.340 So I know it says that for the audience who's looking or who's watching, it says that the

00:09:11.880 post is unavailable.

00:09:13.520 Um, but this guy, I said, uh, I'll settle for the names of the offenders because this

00:09:20.460 guy, Avarecom, Avarecom, whatever he tweeted and it, and it went super, uh, of our, I come

00:09:29.440 um, it went super viral and it was basically him saying, release the videos of the child,

00:09:39.040 the, you know, something to that effect, release the cum, give me the, and I'm going, wait,

00:09:44.680 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, who's asking for that?

00:09:46.900 Who's asking for these videos?

00:09:48.960 I don't know if anybody remembers, but, uh, we've talked about on the show before when,

00:09:52.840 when those police officers were supposedly tasked with looking at, I think it was, um,

00:09:58.320 Anthony Weiner's laptop, uh, the video, just the footage on the laptop was so harrowing

00:10:05.640 that these, they couldn't watch it all at once.

00:10:08.080 They had to watch it in shifts.

00:10:09.240 Police officers were, were vomiting and sobbing while they're trying to get through what is

00:10:13.920 on this laptop.

00:10:14.680 And then I think out of the nine or so officers, including the chief of police who were, you

00:10:21.680 know, overseeing this case, uh, if I'm not mistaken, all of them mysteriously died.

00:10:27.460 Uh, uh, uh, how many, there were nine, I think there was nine and the evidence warehouse

00:10:34.200 burned down suspiciously in an arson, uh, case, which, which unrelated arson case.

00:10:39.820 Yeah.

00:10:40.140 Allegedly.

00:10:40.740 Right.

00:10:41.100 Yeah.

00:10:42.260 I know that's good.

00:10:43.500 Have us believe, but, but that, that's an interesting thing because I don't, I'm not

00:10:47.000 saying Owen has this really fascinating way of, of cutting through the fat and finding

00:10:52.540 the core of a thing.

00:10:53.760 Yeah.

00:10:54.100 Almost too quick.

00:10:55.180 Like all the time for me.

00:10:56.340 Yeah.

00:10:56.720 Yeah.

00:10:57.040 Even I'm uncomfortable with it.

00:10:58.980 And I'm like, I'm a guy who very much is like vibrating on the same level as Owen.

00:11:04.680 But when he, he, he jumps right here and I'm like, I'm not ready to jump there yet.

00:11:08.780 There's usually steps there.

00:11:10.060 Right.

00:11:10.340 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:11:11.220 But this motherfucker, he's jumping all the way there.

00:11:13.420 And that, that is very strange.

00:11:14.860 And shit, man.

00:11:15.360 I mean, listen, put a bookmark in it.

00:11:16.620 That might be, that might be the case.

00:11:18.640 Um, I'm, I'm keeping my eye open or my mind open for any other types of psyops, because

00:11:24.240 we've got, basically you've got, again, factions, right?

00:11:26.740 You've got Elon Musk telling you to ask for the files.

00:11:30.620 And the crazy thing is we've got the files, we've got the names, we've had them for a

00:11:34.480 long time.

00:11:35.220 So now I guess, you know, Owen is a little bit right here.

00:11:38.140 It's like, well, we've had the names and you're going to ask for the files and then

00:11:41.680 that won't be good enough because they'll give that to you.

00:11:43.900 Then you're going to ask to see the videos.

00:11:45.860 And when you give a mouse a muffin, you know, he'll ask to see the Epstein videos.

00:11:51.920 I'm pretty sure that that's, I read it to my kid yesterday.

00:11:55.320 It's literally, if you give a mouse a cookie, uh, but no, no, no, no TV show.

00:12:01.160 No, that's a book, dude.

00:12:02.920 I'm not, I will stop this fucking show right here.

00:12:05.820 If you give a mouse a cookie, it's by Laura Loomer, uh, by Laura.

00:12:15.860 I'm looking at the thing.

00:12:18.420 I will share this tab.

00:12:19.520 Don't, don't disrespect me.

00:12:20.660 Share your tab.

00:12:21.540 Share your tab.

00:12:22.060 Cause I'm going to share my tab.

00:12:22.980 Yeah, go ahead.

00:12:23.520 Bring it up.

00:12:24.040 It's up, up.

00:12:24.960 All right.

00:12:25.220 It's on the thing right now.

00:12:26.080 Go ahead.

00:12:26.900 Yeah.

00:12:27.280 Here.

00:12:27.660 Yeah.

00:12:28.020 Okay.

00:12:28.320 You can see that, how it would be, how you'd be wrong.

00:12:31.240 If you give a mouse a cookie, but by the other hand, if you give a moose a muffin.

00:12:35.740 Okay.

00:12:36.020 Well, that's a book nobody's ever fucking heard of right there.

00:12:38.480 That's the original.

00:12:39.140 All right.

00:12:39.360 Listen, I'm sorry, Austin.

00:12:40.600 I'm sorry.

00:12:41.060 Anyway, Austin.

00:12:42.320 Mommy and daddy are fighting and it's not even the same mommy and daddy.

00:12:45.260 In front of you.

00:12:45.720 Before the show started, you were talking, Austin, a kind of a lot of shit about Jose.

00:12:51.600 It was a lot of shit.

00:12:52.420 Oh my God.

00:12:53.620 Don't let me start.

00:12:54.960 That's not true.

00:12:55.800 Oh my God.

00:12:56.460 That's not true.

00:12:57.280 That's not what Austin was doing.

00:12:58.720 That's very disrespectful, sir.

00:13:01.080 You were talking about staring into the abyss and the abyss staring back at you, right?

00:13:05.720 I mean, this is more or less what's been happening because somebody like you who gets

00:13:10.100 into the real nitty gritty of a thing, very information driven, very location names and

00:13:16.200 date driven, right?

00:13:17.640 That's how you do your research.

00:13:19.400 And of course, right now, everyone is gripped with this Epstein story and you were expressing

00:13:24.140 kind of how it's getting to the point where it's unhealthy to be looking into this.

00:13:30.980 Can you talk a little bit more about that?

00:13:32.940 Yeah, definitely.

00:13:33.540 I just feel like, you know, it's interesting because Top even mentioned just a moment ago

00:13:41.000 how the list has been available in public for quite some time.

00:13:44.320 I mean, Nick Bryant himself published it in Gawker.

00:13:47.540 You know, it's just like if you go and by the way, I told this to Sam and Brad the other

00:13:54.480 day on whatever this is, because to me, it's sort of like perfectly emblematic, symbolic of

00:14:00.880 the current environment that we reside in at this moment, which is basically how the

00:14:06.740 paradigm, how the power paradigm functions, you know, how it kind of, you know, I think.

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00:14:55.220 Clearly, we're witnessing kind of like the consequential outcome of certain aspects of

00:15:01.840 assets who are very much, you know, kind of overexposed, being left hung out to dry.

00:15:09.360 And I think in terms of Nick Bryant, he always tells this story about how he went to meet with

00:15:16.360 Rusty Nelson, who is a black male photographer from the Franklin Network, right?

00:15:20.580 And he meets with him.

00:15:23.100 He's promising to take Nick to a location where he will show him evidence and prove certain,

00:15:29.760 right?

00:15:30.060 Essentially, just prove certain connections that he was already very much certain of.

00:15:34.560 And but from within, you know, internal documents, legitimate evidence that can prove this fact,

00:15:40.440 because his role was to actually compromise, you know, diplomats, politicians, individuals

00:15:45.980 who were around these children and participating in these, you know, sinister sexual proclivities.

00:15:53.460 Right.

00:15:53.840 But what he tells him, basically, he gets in the car with Rusty.

00:15:59.860 He's taking him to to this location to show him this evidence.

00:16:04.440 And a state trooper, he claims that this is basically out in the boonies.

00:16:07.960 There's nowhere.

00:16:08.760 No one else is around.

00:16:10.020 And all of a sudden, a state trooper pulls him over.

00:16:13.000 And before the state trooper could even come up to the side window, three other state trooper

00:16:19.160 cars pull up.

00:16:20.520 Right.

00:16:21.100 And this is very unorthodox, strange, unique situation.

00:16:25.400 And so Nick's instantly, you know, he's flustered.

00:16:29.460 And basically, they come up and they're fishing for do is the evidence.

00:16:35.740 Basically, what Nick thought was happening is that they had a tip that this evidence was

00:16:40.180 potentially in there, you know, that they had had it personally and physically on them

00:16:45.640 at the time.

00:16:46.600 And so they were potentially attempting to, you know, actually acquire that evidence.

00:16:51.560 And Nick himself thought if they had it on them personally at the time, potentially things

00:16:56.100 could have escalated and gotten violent.

00:16:58.760 And who knows what could have happened.

00:17:00.600 And it was almost as if this was a kind of a desperate attempt to to help continue to

00:17:08.720 facilitate the cover up at the time.

00:17:10.520 Right.

00:17:11.560 Individuals were being death threats were being lobbied against them.

00:17:15.740 Anyway, what he explained, Rusty Nelson told him in in terms of describing the network

00:17:22.800 and how it kind of operates and the individuals involved.

00:17:26.700 He said he described it as this metaphorical yacht.

00:17:31.300 He said, you know, it's it you're on a yacht and it's the most beautiful day.

00:17:36.160 And while you're on this yacht, you can have anything and everything your heart desires.

00:17:41.500 But the moment that you decide to to step off this yacht.

00:17:47.340 Everyone else on the yacht will make certain that you drown.

00:17:51.520 And so it's essentially like you can never move yourself from the network if you're once

00:17:55.120 a part of it.

00:17:56.360 And so in the end, you will more than likely, you know, be sacrificed at the altar of public

00:18:03.560 perception in many ways in order to kind of misdirect a lot of the interpretations of

00:18:09.120 of how, you know, again, it's like they want to maintain the theater.

00:18:15.120 Right.

00:18:15.860 In order.

00:18:17.660 And I've been watching our clips.

00:18:19.620 I did see that.

00:18:21.780 But but yeah, it's just a very thick curtain, you know, and we have to pierce through this

00:18:26.480 veil at every level.

00:18:28.220 And I think that's that's become my sole obligation.

00:18:31.540 I feel like at this moment, I'm addicted to this path.

00:18:36.960 And but I think it's a moral path.

00:18:38.660 I think it's an ethical, you know, pursuit.

00:18:40.980 I honestly do.

00:18:42.380 But at the same time, you know, it's at this point, it's very much become and is becoming

00:18:49.160 increasingly undeniable that we are essentially, you know, being ruled by a pedophile elite

00:18:55.620 class.

00:18:56.500 Right.

00:18:56.720 And I think that there they are the individuals who have sophisticated measures and methods

00:19:04.080 in place for generations to trap us in this spiritual battle.

00:19:11.220 And essentially, I think absolve you of your soul.

00:19:15.320 Like, honestly, it's like the soul trap that we discussed, I think, the last time I came

00:19:20.120 on, because it truly does seem to be that way.

00:19:22.260 And and until you're willing, you know, to peer into the darkness.

00:19:28.140 Right.

00:19:28.640 Because that's what would essentially it's a difficult task, man.

00:19:33.280 And it's monumental.

00:19:34.200 And, you know, when you when you you just kind of pry below the surface to to just even

00:19:42.420 a minor extent and you discover who Donald Trump's mentor was, Roy Cohn, running human

00:19:49.440 compromise operations for, you know, he built that he helped build the system.

00:19:55.060 I mean, the blue suite parties of human compromise and sexual blackmail.

00:19:59.060 He compromised J. Edgar Hoover.

00:20:00.820 I mean, that's Roy Cohn.

00:20:02.560 That's Trump's mentor.

00:20:03.900 He's he's procuring children who are being abducted and brought to his right to his actual

00:20:11.060 residence where he's hosting these human compromise parties.

00:20:14.220 And Trump's property is very near to this.

00:20:17.860 Right.

00:20:18.080 Very close by at that point.

00:20:20.100 And David Berkowitz claims that he as a member of the local chapter of the process church

00:20:24.880 and essentially where they were abducting children and providing them to Roy Cohn for these sexual

00:20:32.580 blackmail human compromise parties.

00:20:34.500 And then beyond that, it's like Trump himself being sued.

00:20:38.180 You know, he's been sued for allegedly raping Katie Johnson, I believe, was her name.

00:20:43.680 Right.

00:20:43.900 Was that the crazy bitch?

00:20:46.860 Definitely.

00:20:47.260 There's a few of the crazy bitches out there.

00:20:49.040 Well, I think that the most prominent example of any of his sexual allegations, sexual assault

00:20:54.820 allegations was that crazy woman with the short hair.

00:20:58.900 I forget what her name was, but she gets toted out onto the world stage.

00:21:02.900 And then she becomes sort of the the main figurehead when it comes to like leading the charge against

00:21:09.460 him for for that, you know, allegations of that nature.

00:21:13.500 And she's very quickly exposed as out of her fucking mind, which I think is like, oh, perfect.

00:21:20.060 Perfect.

00:21:20.580 You know, I mean, if you're Trump's PR team, absolutely perfect that this woman is the one

00:21:25.660 who is going to stick in the memory of because then what it does is it supports that narrative

00:21:31.160 that these are just shots across the bow to try to take him down.

00:21:34.620 And it's they're they're baseless accusations and they're just more things that the media

00:21:40.480 is levying against him that are paper thin and fall apart.

00:21:43.600 A hundred percent.

00:21:44.700 But I just, you know, the issue to me, it's like Trump himself.

00:21:50.280 He obviously it's like, yeah, we definitely I agree with what you just said, because obviously

00:21:55.480 the intention is for us to focus on, you know, the misdirection, which is clearly the attempt

00:22:02.140 at undermining the credibility of any other allegations that come forward that kind of

00:22:07.660 are any at the very least similar in any way.

00:22:11.700 It's already casting doubt.

00:22:13.940 Just go more of the same.

00:22:15.800 Exactly.

00:22:16.600 And, you know, it was interesting because, you know, it's almost like the the me too phenomenon

00:22:23.160 that that occurred, right, kind of like paved the way to a lot of that as well, as far as just

00:22:29.220 psychologically at face value, kind of dismissing some of those allegations, because they're so

00:22:34.260 extraordinarily ridiculous.

00:22:36.640 What would you call it?

00:22:37.460 Me too, you know, event or phase or trend that was happening as a psychological operation,

00:22:43.660 just based off of the people who were propagating it, which were Hollywood celebrities.

00:22:49.560 Yeah, right.

00:22:50.400 Those are the people that are getting up on the world stage crying me too.

00:22:53.760 And those are their those are their, you know, propaganda arms.

00:22:57.940 Oh, man, I saw there's a video of Marina Abramovich and she's talking about how Trump is a magician

00:23:05.700 of the highest order and he's essentially creating order out of chaos.

00:23:09.740 Right.

00:23:10.300 And basically that that's to me, it was just it's exactly what for her to put it into that

00:23:20.900 context.

00:23:21.460 It made a lot of sense for me because obviously, I mean, understanding individual individuals like

00:23:26.960 a Jimmy Savile, right, who I kind of like clearly he was he believed himself to have been

00:23:32.260 an occult wizard or like a fucking warlock of some kind, right, where he like he's essentially

00:23:40.440 like he believed he was casting, you know, black magic spells with with his cigar like

00:23:47.320 it and his jingling keys like he is very strange.

00:23:51.000 What what he actually was and and even his burial, right, buried at a 90 degree angle

00:23:57.360 and like these strange.

00:23:59.420 Yeah.

00:23:59.960 It's such a crazy story.

00:24:01.520 He was buried as if he were essentially a vampire.

00:24:05.940 Yeah.

00:24:06.880 Yeah.

00:24:07.260 It was basically like the burial of of what they would grant the yeah.

00:24:15.020 Let me pull it up because it is this fascinating stuff.

00:24:17.520 But the point being here is that Marina Abramovich is praising Trump is this this greatest thing

00:24:23.760 and this magician.

00:24:25.540 She said that she was in touch with a bunch of shamans who were engaging in some sort of

00:24:32.520 group dreaming or group visions sharing.

00:24:36.340 And when they all came out of it, they said that Donald Trump was the magician who was

00:24:41.320 going to awaken the masses.

00:24:43.540 And and to which she felt a little bit, you know, oh, shucks, I guess that's because of

00:24:49.600 whatever feminist lean she might have.

00:24:51.900 But I think she knew what what they were really saying, which is, I mean, you look at MAGA

00:24:57.120 MAGA being the highest order of the Church of Satan or some shit like that.

00:25:00.340 Right.

00:25:00.560 It's like then, of course, dark MAGA or dark magician as this.

00:25:04.540 This is his coffin.

00:25:05.880 It's it's it's not 45 degree.

00:25:08.160 It's 45 degrees.

00:25:09.480 Yeah, apparently it's leaned up.

00:25:11.460 It's strange.

00:25:13.360 Yeah, it fell.

00:25:15.080 But people that don't understand the whole spell casting thing, they think that's too far.

00:25:19.900 I the way that I explain it is people are comfortable with the idea that perception is reality.

00:25:23.940 So if you can create a public perception on a mass scale, then you can manipulate reality.

00:25:28.700 So if if you are going out and casting spells or casting narratives or creating culture or

00:25:35.760 pushing ideologies on people, then you are creating a consensus among those people or a

00:25:42.700 perception among those people and thereby altering reality.

00:25:45.800 So you are casting spells.

00:25:47.360 I think it goes beyond that.

00:25:49.120 But that's an entry level idea that people, I think, can on a psychological level grasp and

00:25:54.760 begin to understand, because a lot of people recoil at that idea of spell casting.

00:25:58.580 It's like, no, no, just think about it in terms of perception is reality.

00:26:02.320 If you can cast a spell, if you can cast a perception onto the masses and have them,

00:26:08.160 you know, internalize that in some way, shape or form, then you can start to manipulate reality.

00:26:13.660 But like I said, I think mind manipulation.

00:26:15.400 Yes, exactly.

00:26:17.080 Exactly.

00:26:17.900 Yeah.

00:26:18.020 And I think Jimmy Savile was was most definitely I mean, obviously, he was a he was necrophiliac

00:26:25.720 as well.

00:26:26.360 I mean, the guy was very strange.

00:26:28.620 He had an Oedipus complex.

00:26:30.020 I'm pretty sure he had sex with his mother's dead body.

00:26:32.380 I'm almost positive that took place.

00:26:34.460 Yeah.

00:26:34.960 And and and beyond that, he's he's caught up in the Kinkora scandal.

00:26:39.380 Right.

00:26:39.760 The Kinkora boys home.

00:26:40.860 And that's a fascinating story whenever I covered that in an episode on just like a solo project.

00:26:49.040 It it was honestly I didn't realize what I was getting into, which is usually the case

00:26:54.920 in terms of all these these stories that I find myself telling.

00:27:00.400 It's it's very strange.

00:27:02.580 But but he was involved and affiliated with the Anglo Irish vice ring.

00:27:07.300 Right.

00:27:07.780 And this has a that very much has a lot to do with essentially, you know, they there

00:27:13.580 was a destabilization happening in Ireland at this time.

00:27:19.020 Right.

00:27:19.260 Where like you had essentially these alpha lodges, alpha free Masonic lodges at the time were

00:27:25.820 essentially kind of they were coming from the UK and effectively running what was called

00:27:33.480 Operation Clockwork Orange.

00:27:35.180 And it's really crazy because this I believe this was prior to the film being made, but

00:27:41.080 it might have been directly after if I remember now, I can't quite remember the details of

00:27:45.520 that, but I do.

00:27:46.620 It's so strange how they they name these covert operations.

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00:28:16.560 I've discovered that basically there's a long standing essentially destabilization operation

00:28:26.860 to divide Ireland into two and just kind of like rule over the pieces in certain ways.

00:28:31.780 And and and that happened.

00:28:33.920 It happens so very often.

00:28:35.460 I mean, it happened just recently in Ukraine.

00:28:37.720 Now it's happening in Syria, which Syria is already kind of a broken state in so many

00:28:43.440 ways.

00:28:43.740 But it's still like what what inevitably occurs whenever you have this sort of, you know,

00:28:49.920 failed state, destabilized environment strategy of tension in many ways, which always falls

00:28:56.400 perfectly into the playbook of Gladio.

00:28:58.160 Right.

00:28:58.460 But but still you have this kind of like ground zero for basically exploiting this crisis.

00:29:08.980 So inevitably you have these child care homes, these these essentially just becoming priority

00:29:15.840 targets in terms of just, you know, utilizing these these victims with no real protectors

00:29:24.900 in place.

00:29:25.500 And obviously most of these, I think it's very interesting when it boils down to how they

00:29:30.060 had a with the Concora boys home, you had actual like British intelligence who had a nearby

00:29:38.660 hotel that was entirely rigged.

00:29:41.480 A whole floor in that hotel was entirely rigged with audio visual blackmail.

00:29:45.320 And they would have the children who were basically the Concora boys home became a child

00:29:51.160 brothel at a certain level.

00:29:52.660 Right. And these children were being experimented on to create submissive boy soldiers, which

00:29:58.260 is very strange.

00:29:59.040 But it was legitimately happening where they're they're utilizing this.

00:30:02.740 Yeah, there's clearly there was satanic ritual abuse that was taking place as well.

00:30:07.980 But but but it gets far deeper than that.

00:30:10.760 And but Lord Mount Mountbatten is is involved in other VIPs in the network, like James Molyneux,

00:30:18.000 who is an MP and and and they they enjoyed like the steady access and stream of supply of these

00:30:25.980 vulnerable children.

00:30:26.760 Right.

00:30:27.140 And so you have not only child abuse and sexual blackmail, but you have the of course, this

00:30:35.100 sort of like state sponsored terrorism that's taking place, which, again, is is very much

00:30:41.320 perfectly in line with the Gladio playbook.

00:30:43.700 And and and you also have arm smuggling, gun running state sponsored, basically targeted assassinations

00:30:51.960 taking place as well.

00:30:53.460 And and this is all kind of like coalescing.

00:30:56.700 And and again, this is sort of the enterprise.

00:31:00.660 I think it's how it how it functions.

00:31:02.160 And I've witnessed it with like Mark Dutreau.

00:31:05.380 Right.

00:31:05.820 It's just a perfect example that I always use.

00:31:07.960 But yeah, you have child psychiatrists who are involved and it gets very strange.

00:31:14.540 They have this elevator trick they utilize.

00:31:16.800 Right.

00:31:17.660 And it's basically it was these young young children were being conditioned and groomed

00:31:25.080 as intelligence operatives used to compromise prominent people.

00:31:28.780 This is exactly what they would call the elevator trick, where a victim mentioned this technique,

00:31:36.040 which was known for apparently they would allegedly perform at at this particular hotel that had

00:31:44.180 the audiovisual blackmail set up in it that was nearby the Kinkora boys home and the UK Ministry

00:31:51.480 of Defense were legitimately involved in creating this human honey trap operation, which is just

00:31:57.340 fascinating to me.

00:31:58.300 But this is all later on been at the very least it's been exposed as as reality.

00:32:02.900 And you have even like modern day.

00:32:07.760 Right.

00:32:07.900 You have victims from Kinkora who still have yet to receive any real just they have yet to

00:32:15.700 to receive any justice of any kind.

00:32:17.640 Right.

00:32:17.880 Which is just fascinating to witness the same with the same with like the psychopath machine.

00:32:24.000 Right.

00:32:24.420 Which is just unfortunate in terms of of the what's the name of that institution?

00:32:33.060 Oak Ridge, the Oak Ridge facility in Canada, which is just fascinating how they were legitimately,

00:32:37.880 you know, it's just an offshoot of MKUltra and the Montreal experiments at the time.

00:32:42.800 But I think the same thing was going on with with that institution in Utah that these kids were getting

00:32:48.120 sent to from remember, like, Dr. Phil sent the Cash Me Outside girl there.

00:32:54.300 It's like a reeducation center for misbehaving children.

00:32:59.200 But the I did not know this, dude, it's it's wild.

00:33:01.920 There's actually a documentary on Netflix about it.

00:33:04.500 I forget what I think it's called The Program.

00:33:07.300 And it's the idea.

00:33:09.240 You've probably heard of this before, where you have a problematic child and you call this

00:33:13.440 like rehabilitation center.

00:33:14.900 It's similar.

00:33:15.660 It's got vibes to like a military school, let's say.

00:33:18.140 And they come in the middle of the night in a van and they bum rush your child while they're

00:33:23.280 sleeping and they rip them out of the house.

00:33:27.000 And what they do then is they they whisk them away into this van.

00:33:31.040 They bring them to this school.

00:33:32.600 The doors lock behind them.

00:33:33.920 And the very first thing that happens is you go through sort of a demoralization process,

00:33:39.240 much like jail and I imagine the prison in general.

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00:34:09.460 They strip you naked.

00:34:12.780 They check you for contraband to make sure there's nothing hiding up your ass.

00:34:18.660 They then put you in a room that is incredibly well lit.

00:34:23.040 So it's like impossible to sleep.

00:34:25.120 So they sleep deprive you.

00:34:27.040 They make you package health products.

00:34:31.060 Oh, that's interesting.

00:34:32.260 Yeah.

00:34:34.060 Shout out VanMan.com.

00:34:35.540 That's a weird time for a sponsorship, but that was inappropriate.

00:34:40.960 VanMan didn't do that.

00:34:41.880 He would never.

00:34:42.500 He has a man and he is a man, but I don't think he's doing that.

00:34:46.440 So, so, but what they do, go ahead.

00:34:49.200 I was just going to say they, they break you.

00:34:51.060 The entire process is designed to break you, right?

00:34:54.260 It's, it's trauma.

00:34:55.700 It's sleep deprivation.

00:34:57.260 You're not allowed to bond with any of the kids there.

00:35:00.340 You get demerits for making eye contact, demerits for smiling and laughing, demerits for looking outside.

00:35:08.560 One of the, one of the people said that when they were a child and they were in this program, they weren't allowed to look at the trees out the window.

00:35:16.020 So, so everything is, is demoralization and obedience and the ones who get out the other side, they're the ones who didn't break, right?

00:35:25.740 They, there was even a girl in there who said, yeah, when I, my time during there, I was so rebellious that the instructors, the teachers, it's really not a great word for them, uh, were, would take pleasure and, and bets and such.

00:35:40.340 And who is going to be the one who breaks such and such, whatever her name is, you know, because she wouldn't, she wouldn't, um, she wouldn't bend the knee.

00:35:48.380 And I think that there's even this other layer where the people who would bend the knee, who would break, there's a selection process there.

00:35:56.680 So those, those kids would be great for it.

00:35:58.860 Right.

00:35:59.080 Um, uh, this is very similar to like the Gates program where they're, they're trying to find who is a good candidate for this program.

00:36:07.160 So if they can traumatize you, if they can cause you to dissociate, which is, that's what I'm getting at here.

00:36:12.440 It's like the name of the game is dissociate everything about the place or disassociate everything about the place is so uncomfortable that the only way to survive and the only way to go home.

00:36:22.540 Cause by the way, those demerits, when they, when they deduct points from you, the point system is predicated on reach a certain point threshold and will allow you to go home.

00:36:32.120 So the only way you get to go home is based upon your level of obedience, your willingness to be broken, which I imagine the only way you're going to go through that is by disassociating.

00:36:44.200 Yeah, no, I think that, you know, that is definitely the, the playbook as far as strategically, uh, essentially fracturing the mind.

00:36:57.140 Right.

00:36:57.980 And, and that into alters.

00:37:00.140 Right.

00:37:00.580 And that's, that's a hundred percent what the, the, uh, strategy was in, in terms of the trauma-based mind control involved in, in not only the Detroit network, but in all of these overlapping networks.

00:37:12.940 I'm realizing now that the finders essentially was directly involved with Franklin, which overlaps and ties, uh, uh, like seamlessly into the Atlanta child murders network, which you can draw a direct line into the Dean Coral murders in Houston.

00:37:32.500 And that all connects to, this is so good.

00:37:38.460 John David Norman and the odyssey network.

00:37:40.540 Right.

00:37:40.880 And, and basically the odyssey network.

00:37:42.540 I'm actually not familiar with that.

00:37:43.560 John David.

00:37:43.980 Oh my gosh, man.

00:37:44.920 Well, hold on, hold on.

00:37:45.500 Wait a second.

00:37:45.920 Because number one, you should be making schizo maps like seven.

00:37:48.960 I think if you made schizo maps, it would really crush.

00:37:51.700 If you created an entire web about all these things connected, that'd be fantastic.

00:37:54.980 But we're at the 37 minute mark.

00:37:57.220 I want to hear about this.

00:37:58.080 Cause I'm not familiar with that.

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00:39:00.060 All right.

00:39:00.300 So please, uh, what you said, somebody and, and the Odyssey program.

00:39:03.960 Can you explain that a little bit?

00:39:05.600 Yeah.

00:39:05.820 Yeah.

00:39:06.000 So the, the Odyssey foundation was ran by this legitimate pedophile that was convicted and, and, uh, you know, and, uh, spent time in prison for, for legitimately running a pedophile operation.

00:39:19.060 And while he was in prison, it's very interesting because it turns out that, uh, basically he is, uh, he kind of like rebrands the Odyssey foundation into what became known as the Delta project.

00:39:34.420 But what I think is most interesting is that all of this seems to, like, this all goes far beyond, and I think back further than even the 18th century hellfire clubs, obviously.

00:39:48.040 Like as far as like the, these sort of ritualistic, um, you know, sex abuse parties that were being utilized for legitimate purposes of, of kind of exploiting and leveraging this, these acts against individuals, uh, for, for, you know, they're essentially it's, it was blackmail at the time.

00:40:07.980 It was just, uh, not referred to in that way, but you, but it dates all the way to like these 18th century, uh, rakes clubs and, and, uh, that were adopted.

00:40:18.040 Adopting these overly satanic rituals and this apparent, like, uh, worship of, uh, of these, the Greek and Roman forms of Venus and Bacchus, right?

00:40:31.200 And so I found that to be very interesting because that all plays into like these, uh, 19th century London brothels, which were held, um, with, with, uh, they, they utilized all these Venus themed child orgies.

00:40:45.020 And, uh, and, uh, Aphrodite.

00:40:47.400 Okay.

00:40:47.880 Yeah.

00:40:48.140 Aphrodite would be the Greek version of that, uh, associated with, uh, beauty and desire.

00:40:52.680 Right.

00:40:53.080 So not really a way around that.

00:40:54.740 If you're incorporating children into an Aphrodite themed operation, uh, you're incorporating them into a beauty and desire based operation.

00:41:03.420 Right.

00:41:03.760 And this is for aristocratic clientele at the time.

00:41:07.480 Right.

00:41:07.720 And so this is like, to me, it's, it's kind of like staging the, the really just what seems to be kind of the structure of, of how these networks function.

00:41:18.680 Uh, you know, you can witness it all the way back to, to 18th century.

00:41:22.620 Like, you know, it's fascinating to just go all the way back to the Canaanites and what they were doing.

00:41:27.340 Right.

00:41:27.580 So, I mean, it's historically speaking, um, we've, we've had people on the show refer to it as a 6,000 year old death call, uh, call it whatever you want.

00:41:36.500 There's nothing new under the sun.

00:41:38.060 And this child sacrifice element in conjunction with, you know, sexual deviance.

00:41:45.220 And there's an element that isn't talked about as much, you know, right now the Epstein thing is, is really gripping everybody.

00:41:52.880 It's back in full swing and, and we're talking about the political blackmail aspect of it.

00:41:57.500 But if, if you take into consideration what I just said, there's nothing new under the sun and you believe that to be true.

00:42:02.860 Well, if you look back into antiquity, when they were doing these things with children, they were also doing ritual sex magic.

00:42:10.840 So it's not just this element of blackmail.

00:42:14.460 It's not just this element of traumatizing and compromising.

00:42:17.880 There is also a spiritual element.

00:42:19.920 Um, a lot of people don't like looking at that because it's less tangible, right?

00:42:23.860 We can get flight logs.

00:42:25.600 We can, you know, uh, petition for lists to be released.

00:42:28.340 We can look at names and times and locations.

00:42:31.280 It's much harder to grasp onto the, the, the spiritual aspect of it, but much in the way that that has always been the case, these things never seem to separate.

00:42:40.600 I believe it's still exactly what's happening right now, which is why you always find this satanic element.

00:42:46.720 But yeah, a hundred percent.

00:42:48.660 And, and, uh, I just, I found it very interesting because it all like seems to involve the Minoan myth of the Minotaur and things of that nature, which is, it's all like ancient Babylon.

00:43:00.440 You know, the Minotaur being, uh, our, our idea is that a lot of these entities, these creatures were offshoots of, of real entities.

00:43:10.080 These aren't just like euphemisms or metaphors or anything like that.

00:43:12.900 This would be the by-product of a fallen angel.

00:43:16.820 The cherubim were said to have the face of a man, the face of an eagle, the face of a, uh, a bull and the face of a lion.

00:43:24.060 Um, if that was true and if these things ever did create or procreate in any way, you could speculate as to how that would happen, then you might expect some of their offspring to have the face of a bull or the face of a lion.

00:43:36.320 And then you start to look at all these creatures, chimeric creatures, especially from Greek mythology, and you find maybe there's a home for them.

00:43:41.960 Um, so that Minotaur aspect, uh, that is the, the Molech aspect, right? Sacrificing your children, specifically your children to this bull faced deity.

00:43:54.120 Right. Yeah. That's to me, man. I think, um, the only reason that I brought up the 18th century hellfire clubs and the rape clubs of the 19th century as well,

00:44:05.040 is mainly because I feel like it provides us with the modern template. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like this was almost like they, they were sort of, um, uh, pivoting into the modern context and it was evolving into this sort of, uh, it, not necessarily neo-pagan, but you, you know, it's, it's like, basically, I do believe that we're surrounded by these neo-pagan belief systems that are very much, you know, I think far more, uh, pronounced than, than people realize,

00:44:33.560 because it's very much kind of hidden under the surface. You have to, you have to be aware first, and then you have to, to essentially, you know, take the time and effort to, to, uh, pursue any real connections because they're not anywhere, uh, publicly available for the most part and being acknowledged at any real level.

00:44:52.300 And that's what, remember when I came on to discuss the Delphi murders, like who the fuck knows about that strange Vinland Vinlander Odinist group in Indiana, right?

00:45:01.860 It's just like that, that are completely infiltrated in the prison system.

00:45:05.780 But if you, if you look up this John David Norman, right, you get like a sort of, uh, you know, I always say the Jimmy Savile effect because it's just like, you know, for a fact that dude's guilty kind of thing, you know?

00:45:18.260 And, um, yeah, is that physiognomy?

00:45:20.840 Yeah, a hundred percent. That's exactly what it is.

00:45:23.880 But top, you think you could pull up a picture of this guy? I'd like to judge him based off his appearance only.

00:45:27.880 John David Norman.

00:45:29.500 John David Norman.

00:45:30.420 Yeah.

00:45:31.860 Yeah, he's, um,

00:45:33.680 Cause Jimmy Savile has the same thing where he just, if there was ever a guy that looked like a Batman villain, you know, Jimmy Savile is, is up there.

00:45:41.280 Um, and then of course, given the circles that he runs with and being knighted and all that really, uh, uh, fantastic stuff.

00:45:48.400 He's like,

00:45:48.580 That's just a guy.

00:45:49.860 That's the guy, buddy.

00:45:51.180 That's the guy.

00:45:52.700 Yeah, just like, yeah, guilty.

00:45:55.060 Guilty, yeah.

00:45:55.960 Whatever his crime is.

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00:46:23.320 It's so crazy because he's, he's directly affiliated with, um, John Wayne Gacy, as I mentioned, right?

00:46:33.500 And that, for me, it's like, I'm beginning to question the concept of serial killers in general, uh, very much the same as, uh, the, what, what has been kind of presented to the public for so, uh, for far too long, which is essentially.

00:46:48.360 You're questioning that, Austin, in the, in the context of them being a fall man, uh, for all of these children that are just getting trafficked.

00:46:56.800 Yes.

00:46:57.040 Before the show, Austin was like, he's like, I think I've looked too deep into the abyss.

00:47:01.120 I can't look out.

00:47:02.720 And now he says that that's, that's a crazy, uh, I'd like to hear more, but like legitimately, I compared it to the concept of, of, uh, essentially how, um, snuff films have been presented to the public as an urban myth for so fucking long.

00:47:19.100 It's, you know, it's just like frustrating at a certain point, but, but, um, I think it's a manufactured misconception, man.

00:47:25.420 Like the, honestly, at this point, uh, I'm not saying, I'm not denying the fact that there haven't been psychopaths who have committed multiple murders, obviously.

00:47:33.160 But, but I think the, this sort of like larger than life, um, representation of, of it's almost like supernatural in certain ways.

00:47:41.560 Like the Zodiac killer.

00:47:42.560 Yes.

00:47:43.300 I view the Zodiac.

00:47:44.720 Now there are multiple murderers involved with that.

00:47:48.120 And I think, uh, it was, the Zodiac was even considered at one point to be, uh, um, uh, William Mincer, who was, uh, uh, Bill Mincer.

00:47:57.120 They called him Manson too.

00:47:58.860 Okay.

00:47:59.400 He was a hit man and he ran security for, um, um, for, um, uh, Larry Flint.

00:48:06.800 Right.

00:48:07.900 Who, uh, you know, the, um, uh, what was his, uh, pornographic, uh, uh, company that he ran for so long?

00:48:16.480 Uh, Hustler.

00:48:17.580 Right.

00:48:18.120 Wasn't that, yeah.

00:48:19.340 Larry Flint ran Hustler, I believe.

00:48:20.980 And it was basically where he was, um, uh, yeah, yeah.

00:48:25.060 Yeah.

00:48:25.320 And so he was a pornographic, uh, you know, a producer and he was running a Hustler magazine

00:48:30.740 as well, but, but, uh, he was shot in Atlanta, which I thought was kind of interesting because

00:48:36.460 he directly, um, connects to Wayne Williams in the Atlanta child murders network.

00:48:41.180 Right.

00:48:41.660 That was being, uh, that I'm telling you right now, this is the problem, dude.

00:48:46.220 Like I, I definitely caught a glimpse into something I was unexpected.

00:48:50.140 You know, I, I did not expect to discover and, and Larry Flint, he had a, uh, individual was

00:48:55.500 providing him with security, um, um, basically, uh, advice allegedly was on his security detail.

00:49:01.160 And, uh, and, uh, and William Mencer was one of these guys.

00:49:05.400 And, and so William Mencer known as Manson too affiliated with the local, uh, process church

00:49:12.160 satanic chapter, right.

00:49:14.020 Which they're essentially the process church of the final judgment or this occult network

00:49:19.040 basically that, that, uh, I believe are kind of like, they've been described as the strong

00:49:24.420 arm of the church of Scientology, which I don't know how legitimate that is.

00:49:28.300 Although I do believe that the church of Scientology and the process, uh, and O nine, a, the order

00:49:34.780 of nine angles, all of these groups, I believe are intelligence fronts, uh, and, in order to

00:49:39.680 run psychological operations and, and, uh, also to help reinforce this sort of new age esoteric

00:49:45.980 ideological system of control.

00:49:47.700 Uh, you're right to consistently, uh, exploit the God hole and, and, uh, and provide individuals

00:49:53.820 with these false kind of, uh, mythology, mythological constructs.

00:49:57.420 You know, it's like, there's very much, uh, I think, uh, a way to, uh, again, further entrench

00:50:03.320 the inverted moral landscape, provide people with these false frameworks and in, in terms

00:50:09.100 of their ethical values.

00:50:10.880 And that's what I see playing out so very often, right.

00:50:13.140 It's like, you know, these newly embraced moral standards, they're obviously an attempt

00:50:19.360 at, at eradicating any real, um, you know, just sort of like, uh, moral fabric that has

00:50:25.460 ever been kind of very well established in, in a way that I believe to be, uh, clearly

00:50:32.120 superior.

00:50:32.780 And in my mind, as far as just like the age old concept of, of, uh, kind of the, uh, Christian

00:50:38.440 values, the conservative values that we once kind of aspired to.

00:50:43.140 Uh, pursue and, and embrace and exercise it as often as we possibly could, but still

00:50:48.120 before I get too off track, the whole point was that William Minster was considered to

00:50:54.180 potentially have been the Zodiac killer.

00:50:56.000 At one point, he was, uh, running security detail for Larry Flint later on, he ends up

00:51:01.940 becoming a hit man who, who murdered Roy Radin in the cotton club murders.

00:51:06.980 And Roy Radin was a, was a producer as well.

00:51:10.240 He was a Hollywood producer who was basically, he, he had an upstate New York mansion as

00:51:14.600 well, uh, that, uh, and his death was entirely ritualistic.

00:51:18.420 His murder upstate New York mansion.

00:51:21.200 Mm-hmm.

00:51:22.180 And what they were doing there was, uh, was apparently running human compromise, black,

00:51:27.760 sexual blackmail operations and having parties that were very similar to that of like the

00:51:31.840 pink ballets that were being conducted within the Detroit network, which is just like, you

00:51:38.080 know, at that point they were just running, um, sexual compromise parties with, at, uh,

00:51:42.980 at these like local castles, uh, in, in, uh, yeah, I swear it's crazy.

00:51:48.060 And, and, um, like members of, um, the, of NATO, like Michael Aquino, right.

00:51:54.360 Was legitimately attending some of these parties when he would go on these diplomatic missions

00:51:58.840 and they were old Nazi castles brother.

00:52:02.140 So the occult aspect of kind of the, you know, the, as far as just at the very least, the

00:52:08.700 kind of a very pronounced Helena Blavatsky thread throughout the, you know, belief system

00:52:13.440 of the SS at that time, they practiced, uh, you know, um, um, uh, what was it?

00:52:19.480 The, uh, theosophical society.

00:52:21.080 Then they were very much, you know, it was definitely theosophy was a huge aspect, but it

00:52:27.140 wasn't only that it had its own kind of like flair to it clearly, uh, you know, but, but

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00:53:04.980 You know, on the topic of, of how constantly these occult practices permeate all of these

00:53:11.220 operations, what do you make of it?

00:53:13.980 Do you think that this is an elaborate ruse to play off of the preexisting ideologies of

00:53:21.100 a group of people?

00:53:21.840 Um, a lot of people will sort of, I don't want to say dismiss it because that sounds

00:53:26.960 reductive.

00:53:27.660 I mean, there could be a rich body of, it's not what I believe, but I can get behind the

00:53:32.240 idea that there's a rich body of control mechanism behind creating this occult scaffolding or building

00:53:39.980 your thing on this occult scaffolding because then the people that you're going to influence

00:53:43.420 given, dependent upon their belief system might galvanize to it, you know, more effectively

00:53:48.540 than they would otherwise, or do you think that there is a real spiritual component to

00:53:53.780 this?

00:53:54.040 I think people, yeah, yeah, I, I, that is a great question because it's something that

00:53:59.260 I'm trying to decide for myself on a daily basis.

00:54:02.340 Honestly, it's hard.

00:54:03.700 It's hard to, to interpret exactly.

00:54:05.780 I do believe that obviously you have members of certain leadership factions that are clearly

00:54:10.780 exploiting the lower level initiates, things of that nature.

00:54:14.000 But I also do believe that there's fundamental belief in, in, in active practicing of black

00:54:20.540 magic rituals that they believe legitimately has an effect on reality itself.

00:54:25.540 And, and, and, you know, claiming that not only does it require, you know, this is another

00:54:32.760 reason why they utilize German shepherds, I believe, because they, they essentially, it

00:54:36.280 was described to me as if they had, they, they were the most intelligent of the species of

00:54:43.580 animal, of, of a dog.

00:54:45.300 So therefore it was the closest you could come to sacrificing a human being.

00:54:50.080 So essentially that was the reason why they, they, the occult, uh, like for example, uh,

00:54:56.740 Hitler possessing so many German shepherds.

00:54:58.900 Why, why was the SS providing as far as like, it was a loyalty test, a puppy, a German shepherd

00:55:04.720 puppy to, to write the elite members.

00:55:07.700 And, uh, and then they would have to, they would raise the puppy and then they would be

00:55:12.180 forced to write murder the dog.

00:55:14.600 Right.

00:55:14.900 As it, as it, uh, and, and that in itself is like a loyalty test to the regime.

00:55:19.540 And I'm telling you guys, you gotta, you gotta watch the mother horse, I should, I'm so sorry

00:55:23.920 because it's every, it's, it's consistently coming up.

00:55:27.780 Like in one of the early parts of the story, they're talking about these, uh, it's like

00:55:33.000 a flesh portal that they're keeping open, but it requires sacrifice, some sort of human

00:55:38.740 sacrifice.

00:55:39.180 And below it, they keep a humpback whales and they like the scientist that it's kind

00:55:43.840 of like you're hearing the story from his part of the narration.

00:55:46.480 You're like, why the whales?

00:55:47.780 It seems cumbersome.

00:55:48.620 It seems like they're like, it's hard to get, uh, it's because it's a pain in the ass

00:55:53.620 to keep them there.

00:55:54.320 And, and why are they feeding them to this thing when they could just feed them a bunch

00:55:57.500 of small fish?

00:55:58.060 And it's like, well, the intelligence factor, there's a, it is a level of emotional intelligence

00:56:02.880 that goes with it.

00:56:03.660 And it's like this motherfucker, whoever wrote that is, he knows a little too much.

00:56:08.140 And that's probably why he's doesn't say who he is.

00:56:11.080 Exactly.

00:56:12.040 Dude.

00:56:12.240 I've seen that many times horse, horse lady, whatever it's called.

00:56:15.620 Nine hours.

00:56:16.360 Is it called Mr.

00:56:16.860 Hands?

00:56:17.200 Everybody go watch Mr.

00:56:18.140 Hands.

00:56:18.500 Mr.

00:56:18.760 Fuck.

00:56:19.720 Don't do it.

00:56:20.960 Oh my God.

00:56:21.700 Don't do that.

00:56:22.360 No, I, I, uh, but yeah, I think that there is legitimate in terms of there is devout belief

00:56:32.680 in, in black magic, blood rituals, no doubt in my mind.

00:56:36.840 And, and, uh, and that's kind of perfectly, but also, you know what, it's very interesting

00:56:43.220 because there are cases where obviously they utilize the ritualistic nature of a, of a crime

00:56:49.940 scene that it could have been staged to misdirect the public, to misdirect investigators in order.

00:56:55.360 Yeah.

00:56:55.640 And that does happen.

00:56:56.700 And I believe that could have taken place at a certain level in the Atlanta child murders

00:57:02.320 because, but I'll tell you, I'll describe a crime scene where they nailed a biblical scripture

00:57:08.320 to the walls.

00:57:09.400 It's so strange.

00:57:10.980 And, and the bodies themselves were like, basically, oh my God, there's a, there's a theory

00:57:16.340 that because HIV essentially, um, was leaked from, uh, Dr. Mary's monkey lab, right?

00:57:23.420 The covert mouse lab laboratory or whatever, uh, uh, weapons laboratory that they were essentially

00:57:29.320 uh, running experiments at the time.

00:57:31.500 Um, and it's very strange because, uh, Dave McGowan himself even put this in his chapter

00:57:36.700 on the Atlanta case, uh, in program to kill, he put this potential connection to, uh, basically

00:57:43.480 these children being utilized as, uh, as like test subjects, right.

00:57:48.960 For, for, and also because some of the perpetrators, the pedophile perpetrators within the network

00:57:55.080 were all dying of AIDS, uh, very, very, uh, yeah, it was very strange that, that, that

00:58:00.440 began to take place as well.

00:58:02.020 That's called, uh, oh man, what is that called?

00:58:04.720 It's called the poison, the poison wine test or something like that.

00:58:07.580 Right.

00:58:08.540 McGowan basically suggests that.

00:58:10.620 So he, he's saying that the CDC is, that's hub is located in Atlanta.

00:58:16.860 This is 1979 to 81 with the Atlanta child murders is taking place.

00:58:21.060 It's the exact same time that HIV, uh, you know, arrives on the scene and is introduced

00:58:26.780 to the public.

00:58:27.680 And so he, he's suggesting that some of these children and child victims could have been

00:58:32.220 deliberately injected with HIV in order to track the sexual transmission and the evolution

00:58:36.960 of the disease while simultaneously introducing the virus to the general public intentionally

00:58:42.260 from a strategic leak at a covert domestic biological weapons laboratory.

00:58:46.980 That's fucking sinister, dude.

00:58:49.440 That tracks though, dude.

00:58:50.340 That tracks.

00:58:51.100 It does.

00:58:51.660 It does.

00:58:52.660 And, um, go ahead.

00:58:54.040 I was just like, I had mentioned, uh, the only reason I wanted to the very least finish

00:58:59.660 the, what I was going to say about, about, um, William Minster, right?

00:59:03.820 Manson too, because I did think it was fascinating.

00:59:05.920 Like he, he, uh, he inevitably, you know, murders this Roy Radin and the cotton club murders.

00:59:12.060 And, and this individual, I think this is another window into the enterprise, how it functions,

00:59:16.760 how they facilitate the coverups, how, how individuals are targeted for assassination.

00:59:21.580 If they, um, essentially become overexposed to a certain extent or become too overconfident

00:59:27.860 in the framework of their role in, in the enterprise.

00:59:31.080 I think that also takes place very often.

00:59:33.460 That was another thing with the, the, uh, a lot of the child victims in the Atlanta case,

00:59:39.140 they were basically, you had older children procuring younger children for the network.

00:59:44.300 And then you had, you know, child victims and then child procurers who were also children

00:59:49.540 who were helping with the drug distribution aspect of the enterprise.

00:59:53.200 And so that was legitimately being, uh, you know, facilitated at the time.

00:59:57.240 And a lot of these like children were basically, and they, they called it, um, you know, they

01:00:03.280 were essentially, you know, they were, they became child prostitutes is what they did.

01:00:08.060 But these were, these are young black kids who, who are like acting like, um, uh, what

01:00:13.020 do they call it?

01:00:13.580 When, when they're just, um, basically I forget the fucking, I forget the term that they use.

01:00:18.820 Are you trying to make me say the N word?

01:00:20.980 Basically.

01:00:21.780 No, but they're hustling.

01:00:24.400 Damn it.

01:00:24.700 I couldn't remember.

01:00:25.760 I couldn't remember.

01:00:26.340 Yeah.

01:00:26.940 Basically they're, they, that's so now if you think like, Hey, yeah, I was hustling when

01:00:30.720 I was a kid, that means you're slinging boy ass basically in Atlanta.

01:00:34.020 Uh, in, in that case, which, which really was fascinating to me because you had these,

01:00:39.460 you had kids who would wind up becoming child victims in that, in, you know, that murder

01:00:44.940 spree who were claiming that they're, they're getting picked up at this kind of, uh, and

01:00:50.400 taken to this local homosexual hangout, you know, and, and, uh, and yeah, and it was smeared

01:00:55.000 with, they, they had a Brown substance.

01:00:56.660 They were smearing on their, on their faces when they were entering the car.

01:01:00.220 It was very strange.

01:01:01.840 Yeah, I know.

01:01:02.780 And, and, and by the way, with it, with, I found out recently within, uh, uh, as far

01:01:09.540 as David Ferry and, you know, who ran the civil air patrol and, and was, uh, hypnotizing

01:01:14.460 Lee Harvey Oswald when he was a member of the Louisiana cap, uh, when he was a young kid.

01:01:19.360 Right.

01:01:19.820 And I think, so he's hypnotizing him and then raping him.

01:01:23.220 Right.

01:01:23.740 And so this is another reason why I think there were members of the civil air, air patrol

01:01:27.720 that were just cadets, right.

01:01:29.680 Like Lee Harvey Oswald, who met Barry seal personally, who was also a member of the civil

01:01:34.920 air patrol, which I thought was so crazy.

01:01:37.180 And he was a Barry seal, right.

01:01:39.540 Who, who was, uh, you know, running drugs for Pablo Escobar and, and the Mina drug operation

01:01:44.920 and everything, uh, American made right.

01:01:47.060 Tom Cruise.

01:01:47.620 And, uh, and they act as if he was just kind of like smuggling cigars and he, he made a

01:01:53.560 mistake and, and clearly then he's all of a sudden introduced to the, to the feds and

01:01:58.140 the CIA is like, Hey, we got a job for you.

01:02:00.540 Right.

01:02:00.880 And it's like, so fucking just ridiculous in terms of the plot line.

01:02:04.680 It's always funny too, because then eventually given enough time, a movie is made about, you

01:02:08.240 know, the event.

01:02:09.140 What they did.

01:02:09.860 Yeah.

01:02:10.220 But like, you know, a little bit of obfuscating, uh, you know, focusing on one thing and not

01:02:15.720 the other.

01:02:16.440 Right.

01:02:16.860 Cause it wasn't cigars at all.

01:02:18.260 He, he was, he was caught with like thousands of, of blasting caps and like legitimate explosives,

01:02:23.620 dude.

01:02:24.140 He was running, you know, uh, you know, uh, essentially you had like, uh, this debt cord,

01:02:29.580 right.

01:02:29.780 Like lines of debt cord that he was, he was, you know, detonation cord that he had as well.

01:02:34.740 But it was so much more than that.

01:02:36.440 Cause he was running, uh, I think he was running covert operations at a young age, even at 16,

01:02:40.980 17 years old, he was already, he already had his wings.

01:02:43.620 He was already flying like a legitimate amount at that time.

01:02:46.740 They called him an expert pilot as at a very young age.

01:02:49.760 And, um, and it's very strange, but anyway, he, he, he meets Lee Harvey Oswald as a child

01:02:56.160 in the civil air patrol, which is just fascinating.

01:02:58.160 And he meets David Ferry, who he claims at that point, uh, he has, uh, uh, something Odom was,

01:03:03.860 was a childhood friend that he introduced.

01:03:05.920 He tried to, he said, you want to make a thousand dollars a week or whatever at that time, uh,

01:03:10.780 with me, like then, then come with me to this airstrip, this private airstrip.

01:03:14.900 And, and this kid that went with Barry seal says that he sees this individual sitting, um,

01:03:21.800 in front of all the cadets, right.

01:03:23.860 That's basically an all black and has like a beret.

01:03:27.800 And, uh, they describe, he describes how he laughed at the guy's outward appearance

01:03:33.560 because his eyebrows were so ridiculous.

01:03:36.440 And it was David Ferry, right?

01:03:38.040 If you look at a picture of that dude.

01:03:40.000 And, uh, and so he said that when he laughed, Barry got upset at him for laughing, right?

01:03:44.600 Like, Hey man, watch your tone around David Ferry type of thing.

01:03:47.620 And, uh, and was very upset.

01:03:49.240 And, and basically he never brought him back, but he did offer, like, if you want to start

01:03:55.260 working with us, we can fly in drugs and, and weapons basically.

01:04:00.040 And he was, uh, he was running covert missions in, in Vietnam at, at that age, which are,

01:04:04.940 uh, in Laos and these strange areas at the time where they're, they're essentially kind

01:04:09.480 of like, um, it was the really like the, uh, uh, the golden triangle, right.

01:04:15.980 To, to, to, it was Iran Contra, but before Iran Contra, and that's what people need to

01:04:20.340 understand.

01:04:20.780 And so, but among the members of the civil air patrol was also an individual who apparently

01:04:27.280 was a high ranking member of now, this is crazy because it allegedly Marion David Petty,

01:04:34.640 who was the founder of the finders cult, right?

01:04:38.200 His son was also in the civil air patrol and he later works for a CIA cutout known as air

01:04:44.360 America, which was owned and operated by Wexner and Epstein.

01:04:50.080 Wow.

01:04:50.760 Yes.

01:04:51.320 So why are the finders utilizing the same CIA cutout, uh, right?

01:04:55.900 Um, uh, airline that, that Epstein would later utilize when in this, in a very similar

01:05:02.500 context.

01:05:03.020 And so for me, I think that there's no distinction at this point.

01:05:06.060 And I think that maybe, uh, um, you know, if, if people always like to, to, uh, question

01:05:13.340 how legitimate Ted Gunderson is, and, and I think it's a, it's a real question to ask.

01:05:17.540 I'm not entirely certain how much you can trust him, but I will say that I've discovered so

01:05:22.300 much of, of what he's provided as far as the evidence and, and investigative threads, you

01:05:29.360 know, it's, it's been so worthwhile and valuable to, to, uh, you know, my effort of peeling

01:05:34.720 back the veil that, um, yeah.

01:05:37.380 And until I find a direct reason to call him this sort of like limited hangout, that's

01:05:42.660 attempting to misdirect us in, in many ways, then I will continue to appreciate what he

01:05:47.080 has to offer and what he believed the finders was.

01:05:49.360 This is the craziest, uh, he, as far as just description, because he essentially says that,

01:05:56.020 uh, the finders are a CIA front that he claims was established in the 1960s.

01:06:02.680 And the members are specially trained government kidnappers with top clearance and protection

01:06:07.380 in their assigned task of stealing children, torturing, and sexually abusing them.

01:06:12.840 Sometimes involving them in satanic orgies, bloody rituals, and murder of other children

01:06:17.660 with the slaughter of animals.

01:06:19.520 And that was another thing that Paul Bonassi, right?

01:06:21.400 Who's a, uh, a child victim member of the Franklin network who helped later on procure other

01:06:27.420 children.

01:06:28.420 And he, he was also involved in the, uh, the, uh, uh, midnight tour of the white house during

01:06:35.660 the confessions of a DC madam case.

01:06:37.520 And the Henry Vincent, uh, call it was basically a male prostitution ring, but, uh, he was running

01:06:45.720 it on behalf of an intelligence operative by the name of Craig Spence.

01:06:49.040 And basically he had been kind of like seduced into becoming a part of the enterprise and

01:06:55.060 then couldn't get himself removed.

01:06:56.740 It was very unfortunate for him, Henry Vincent, but cause I honestly do think he was just, uh,

01:07:02.900 he was just a homosexual who was closeted at the time and was trying to find ways to,

01:07:07.800 right.

01:07:08.240 To, uh, engage.

01:07:09.900 Yeah, exactly.

01:07:10.660 And, and then basically started making, he fell into all of this because of just gay

01:07:17.220 dudes.

01:07:17.520 He was meeting on the reg, you know what I mean?

01:07:19.820 It was just like, it was very strange, but, but, uh, anyway, so then Henry Vincent,

01:07:24.620 That's a crazy pipeline, by the way.

01:07:26.080 It truly is because you know what you can, you discover because Paul Bonassi's get, and

01:07:31.680 these other child victims are being given these midnight tours at the white house, uh, under

01:07:36.040 George Bush senior.

01:07:37.200 Right.

01:07:37.820 Which is just fascinating.

01:07:38.840 And, uh, and he's directly tied in with Lawrence E King, right.

01:07:42.480 Who's running the, the Franklin, um, credit union in Omaha, Nebraska.

01:07:46.820 And, and, uh, obviously was, was now Paul Bonassi claims he, he saw him at Offwood air

01:07:52.160 force base with Michael Aquino and they were, uh, conducting a transaction.

01:07:55.980 So that to me, you know, is, is, uh, very important because Michael Aquino is obviously convicted

01:08:01.380 pedophile.

01:08:02.180 He, he, in my mind, um, he, he was definitely, uh, a part of the abuse network that was happening

01:08:08.660 at the Presidio, uh, in San Francisco and then the West point scandal that happened around

01:08:13.460 the same time.

01:08:14.800 But still the, the fact of the matter is like that Offwood is, is one of the locations where

01:08:20.240 they claim that, uh, operation or project Monarch was being, uh, ran through, right.

01:08:25.240 Which Michael Aquino has been kind of like, uh, uh, identified as one of the key culprits

01:08:30.680 and, and, uh, uh, operators who was in charge of running, uh, um, you know, the, uh, basically,

01:08:37.700 uh, project Monarch, right.

01:08:39.600 This trauma-based sexual mind control type of situation.

01:08:42.800 And that to me is fascinating because obviously Johnny Gosch, right.

01:08:48.040 You know, the abduction of Johnny Gosch, who's, who's the newspaper boy.

01:08:51.300 And, and, uh, basically there was a, there was a paper boy fetish at the time.

01:08:55.160 And, and apparently that, that all took place where allegedly a key perpetrator ordered these

01:09:03.140 paper boys through Michael Aquino.

01:09:04.840 Now this is all through like Paul Bonassi and various child victims who have made statements

01:09:09.140 about this.

01:09:10.020 Wait, there's a paper boy.

01:09:10.860 You mean like culturally a paper boy fetish or like an individual perpetrator within the

01:09:17.000 network, who's a pedophile attempting to pursue his sexual proclivities.

01:09:21.040 And whatever he desires, he has specifically has a paper boy fetish.

01:09:25.220 And so he's ordering paper boys at the time to sexually abuse and potentially murder on

01:09:30.660 a farm that was located nearby.

01:09:32.640 And now this is all fascinating to me because, uh, uh, the individuals, Paul Bonassi names

01:09:39.160 is potential perpetrators who abducted Johnny Gosch.

01:09:42.000 And he's, he claims he himself chloroformed Johnny in the van, right?

01:09:46.240 Which he was, uh, basically Paul Bonassi claims they lured Johnny to the van and then individual

01:09:53.780 perpetrators jumped out of the van, chloroformed him, put him in the van, took him to a farm

01:09:57.900 by, you know, after he's, he's, uh, you know, placed in rope and things of that nature.

01:10:02.280 And then, um, yeah, basically it's just like, it's interesting because he claims that potentially

01:10:10.380 the individuals who, who were the abductors of, of Johnny Gosch, one of them, well, two

01:10:17.300 of them, he, he claims were involved with the Chicago mob.

01:10:20.920 Right.

01:10:21.620 And they, he named John Wayne Gacy and Phil Paskey, which to me is absolutely crazy that

01:10:28.660 they were named as potential abductors of Johnny Gosch.

01:10:31.600 And, uh, but you know, not at all surprising really, because, you know, if, if you consider

01:10:37.720 the idea that these 33 children are being found, uh, you know, buried on, on, uh, John Wayne

01:10:43.440 Gacy's property, I believe it was.

01:10:45.520 And, and, uh, it's just like, to me, he's clearly an abductor, like he is a child abductor,

01:10:53.020 kidnapping children within the framework of the network.

01:10:55.520 He is a low hanging fruit in, in my mind.

01:10:58.300 And, and, uh, the same as Mark Duttrell really, who's, who studied how to create these, uh,

01:11:03.520 underground prison bunkers that with these like airflow ducks that would provide, uh, you

01:11:08.880 know, basically a way for them to, you know, circumvent any real type of, uh,

01:11:15.440 even if like drug, like, even if dogs were provided for the raid, they wouldn't be able

01:11:21.960 to sniff out, right.

01:11:23.460 The, the children in the basement because of this airflow duct that was specially, uh,

01:11:27.880 created.

01:11:28.660 It's a very strange story, but anyway, I think what is the most interesting about all of this

01:11:35.140 is that it so very clearly overlaps and with, uh, with John David Norman.

01:11:39.540 And so when you, you consider this individual who there are a lot of different indications

01:11:46.060 that are saying that basically perpetrators of the Franklin scandal were Delta project

01:11:51.040 clients and people need to realize that the Delta project is the Odyssey foundation, which

01:11:56.960 is just what John David Norman was calling his pedophile operation, which is just a window

01:12:02.680 into the underground pedophile.

01:12:04.120 It's basically the pedophile underworld essentially.

01:12:08.060 And what they're claiming is that you, you have like, man, basically Paul Bonassi mentions

01:12:15.580 that, that, uh, he was, he was brought in to this child prostitution ring that kept these

01:12:20.740 pink collection of file cards, listing customers and the kinds of boys they liked.

01:12:25.720 And, uh, and so this is very interesting because it's what was discovered at Dean Coral's

01:12:30.920 residence whenever he was also, uh, you know, the, the Houston murders of all those, those

01:12:35.680 children.

01:12:36.440 And, uh, he was utilizing victims in that network to procure other victims.

01:12:41.120 And, uh, real quick, it's just, cause this, this feels like one of those charts that like

01:12:45.620 everything is connected.

01:12:46.640 Do you think that these people are actually connected or is this stuff planted there?

01:12:50.300 Like are, are you on a wild rabbit chase?

01:12:53.340 Right.

01:12:54.620 I, I, I honestly think that this is a legitimate window into the pedophile underworld.

01:13:01.500 And we're, we're, unfortunately we're witnessing, you know, uh, how the enterprise functions to,

01:13:09.360 to a real extent.

01:13:10.500 And I think that in terms of like, we, we had mentioned, um, um, for example, this is what

01:13:18.080 I think is very interesting about all this, like you have all these blackmail files that

01:13:23.720 are discovered at John Wayne Gacy's property.

01:13:26.040 Right.

01:13:26.580 And so that I think is another thing that's very important to mention is that they, they

01:13:31.240 were basically, you, you had this household inventory, right.

01:13:35.740 And this all was put forward by court documents that show that Gacy had a whole set of blackmail

01:13:40.740 files for sports figures, politicians, celebrities, and, um, and also he's tied into this Jaycees.

01:13:49.400 All right.

01:13:49.940 With another serial killer by the name of Ed Kemper.

01:13:53.880 Who you said the Jaycees J A Y C E E S.

01:13:59.900 It's a very strange connection, but, uh, basically this is, uh, what they call the United States

01:14:05.920 junior chamber and, uh, it's just this national civic group known as the Jaycees and essentially

01:14:12.740 he, Ed Kemper belongs to this organization, but John Wayne Gacy was actually named.

01:14:21.480 Okay.

01:14:22.040 As the outstanding vice president of the Waterloo Jaycees in 1967.

01:14:27.120 And you have other members of this network.

01:14:29.580 This is all apparently to sort of like, uh, you know, discover young people.

01:14:35.920 People who have a political capital that might have, uh, you know, some real prominent role

01:14:41.000 to play in the future is to sort of like place them on the path to looking at it right now.

01:14:45.940 You've got Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Al Gore, Reagan.

01:14:49.440 Holy shit.

01:14:50.860 Oh, it's fascinating.

01:14:51.800 You know what it feels like top if you, cause I understand the question of being like, cause

01:14:56.620 it almost seems too good to be true, right?

01:14:57.960 It's like all of your favorite characters all wrapped up doing satanic shit right here.

01:15:02.540 This is the same thing that we discovered when it comes to like, you know, Jack Parsons

01:15:07.380 and L Ron Hubbard and, uh, Werner Von Braun.

01:15:10.400 And then, uh, uh, what's homeboy's name, uh, that, that we've been talking about.

01:15:15.820 We, we did a couple of deep dives on them, uh, Puharage, Puharage, right.

01:15:20.200 And, and, and then you look at all the connections there between the end of world war II and the

01:15:24.380 beginning of this, you know, MK ultra program and all of that shit.

01:15:28.460 It's like all these previously separate things, they're, they're all tied together, especially

01:15:35.400 during the same couple of decades.

01:15:37.620 These guys all played ball together.

01:15:39.160 It's like the exact same shit.

01:15:41.540 A hundred percent.

01:15:42.540 And, and, uh, and as far as the, what happened is basically when John David Norman gets arrested,

01:15:48.940 convicted and placed into prison for, for running a pedophile operation known as the Odyssey

01:15:53.760 network, uh, basically he, he's imprisoned with another individual by the name of Phil Paskey.

01:16:01.760 Right.

01:16:02.320 And this is crazy because this is when basically Phil Paskey gets out of prison and begins to

01:16:07.920 run the, this sort of, um, rebranded, uh, they, they honestly, all they did was rebrand

01:16:15.400 the network.

01:16:16.000 It's the very same network.

01:16:17.080 They just called it something different.

01:16:18.420 It became the Delta project after the conviction of John David Norman.

01:16:21.740 And it's the exact same, uh, uh, underground pedophile operation, but it began, it began

01:16:28.020 being advertised in this, uh, child pornography publication called Hermes.

01:16:32.400 Right.

01:16:32.680 And if you consider the idea that, yeah, I know.

01:16:35.820 There's a, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, child pornography publication.

01:16:39.660 Is this like search this?

01:16:41.280 How do you even search this?

01:16:42.460 Don't search this, but, but, but a publication meaning a magazine.

01:16:47.680 Yeah.

01:16:48.700 Yeah.

01:16:48.960 So they would promote the, Padeeka is another one that that's very disgusting.

01:16:53.420 And, and, uh, they're, they're pedophile publications that promote these sort of like

01:16:58.440 sadistic sexual proclivities to these individual pedophiles throughout.

01:17:02.960 It's a networking, uh, honestly, it's, it's all done privately.

01:17:06.480 Well, you know, obviously they're privately distributing this among themselves and, uh, attempting

01:17:12.660 to keep it all like sort of Hermes was, was being published and circulated by all these

01:17:17.960 associates of John David Norman.

01:17:19.480 And allegedly this was financed by this individual by the name of Francis Sheldon, who Francis

01:17:27.720 Sheldon was, was an old money millionaire who, who, who essentially was, was, uh, he, he was

01:17:36.280 caught up in the scandal of the, um, uh, basically it was, uh, North Fox Island.

01:17:41.900 Right.

01:17:42.720 And North Fox Island is very interesting because it, it essentially, it ties in, uh, the Oakland

01:17:49.200 County child killers case.

01:17:50.920 Okay.

01:17:51.760 And, and that's, it's very upsetting because, uh, basically, yeah, yeah.

01:17:57.820 It, it, uh, when you find out who, um, Francis Sheldon is and how he was helping finance this

01:18:04.360 pedophile publication, it begins to make a lot more sense because the Oakland County child

01:18:08.560 killer case draws in the paper boy fetish and Johnny gosh, and all these other, uh, I believe,

01:18:13.520 uh, forget the name of Brian Wetterling was one of the others who, who, uh, was very much

01:18:19.200 a, a key child victim.

01:18:20.860 I believe some of the parents are involved, unfortunately the same in, in Dutro, right.

01:18:25.240 Where, where, uh, you have this sort of, um, uh, you know, there's this strange factor

01:18:32.820 that plays into it where the children are groomed by their own family members.

01:18:37.200 Like effectively not usually it's a father or it's, or it's a, um, uh, a grandparent, which

01:18:43.300 I found very interesting, but that, that is, is effectively what I'm, I consistently view

01:18:48.980 as, as apparently they have these kinds of like, that it's, it's almost like passing

01:18:54.740 down this, this sort of sadistic abuse network, but there's, there's an element that I don't

01:19:00.380 know how often it comes across your table, given, you know, you're, you're much more of

01:19:03.640 the information driven, uh, investigator type, but, uh, in the sort of supernatural circles

01:19:09.620 where people are sharing their testimonies and such individuals who have had this happen,

01:19:13.680 you know, they're commonly known as SRA, uh, survivors, but, um, even that I think has

01:19:21.740 this, this, uh, sterilized nuts and bolts kind of a, uh, uh, you know, imagery to it where,

01:19:28.600 um, these people, when they tell their stories, it's, it's much more supernatural than I think

01:19:33.320 we, we give credit to.

01:19:34.420 And a lot of these people are telling you it's because of, um, bloodlines and associations

01:19:42.080 with these groups that are in, in one discussion, we're talking about espionage and, and blackmail

01:19:51.140 and, and things like that.

01:19:52.400 But in their context, they're talking about, um, uh, spirituality and, and genetics.

01:19:59.640 Uh, and so that comes up quite a bit when it's like, yeah, my grandfather is the person

01:20:05.360 who coached me into this.

01:20:06.680 And my family is believed to be of X, Y, Z bloodline, um, or it has been a longstanding

01:20:15.180 member of a spiritual organization.

01:20:18.680 And you, you name the spiritual organization, what have you, but there's like a genetics,

01:20:22.420 like a blood and a spirituality component to it.

01:20:25.240 Um, there's also, uh, what is that called?

01:20:27.980 Uh, not, not lineage.

01:20:29.680 It's called Jesus, uh, iniquity, iniquity, a generational iniquity where if this has happened

01:20:36.480 to, I mean, we, we've interviewed someone like fringe, we should have her back on.

01:20:39.440 Yeah.

01:20:39.900 Um, and at the very end, or maybe it was off the record, uh, she told us about her father

01:20:45.840 and her father is like involved with these things.

01:20:48.700 And then she goes on to have a life full of abduction experiences and things like this.

01:20:54.380 Supernatural.

01:20:55.000 Yeah.

01:20:55.400 And it's, uh, the idea in the supernatural realm or the people who believe in this kind

01:20:59.680 of stuff is that there are legal rights and the supernatural realm is more legalistic even

01:21:04.960 than this Jewish realm.

01:21:06.240 So they, if, if you have signed a contract, yeah.

01:21:10.460 For your soul or the, you know, the, the souls of your children.

01:21:15.140 I mean, I think honestly, to bring it back to the Jews, like when you read the Bible, what

01:21:18.700 they say is, uh, after they ask for Jesus's death, Herod tells them no.

01:21:23.220 And they beg for it.

01:21:24.560 And he says, he's innocent.

01:21:25.420 And he says, well, put the, put that curse.

01:21:27.720 He told them that there'll be curses.

01:21:29.020 They put that curse on us and our children, put the blood, that blood curse on us and

01:21:33.480 our generations.

01:21:34.660 And he's like, fine.

01:21:35.420 And he washes his hands of it.

01:21:36.500 And it's like, there's a blood curse there.

01:21:37.980 There's a generational iniquity that's carried on for a long time.

01:21:41.920 And that's why you'll see schizophrenia and things like that rampant within that community.

01:21:46.020 Alien induction to all kinds of shit.

01:21:48.080 Yeah.

01:21:48.100 Oh yeah.

01:21:48.400 I mean, if you want to talk about like supernatural occurrences happening, it's in Israel is like,

01:21:52.920 that is a hotspot.

01:21:53.680 It's probably why we want to be there so badly.

01:21:55.920 We, we like these esoteric places.

01:21:57.840 So did Hitler.

01:21:58.560 That's why he's, you know, traveling to Tibet and all that stuff.

01:22:01.540 Oh yeah.

01:22:02.600 Um, but yeah, it's the idea of generational iniquity.

01:22:05.580 So a lot of these people, I mean, there would be no way to know their family lineage and what

01:22:10.740 they did in private because none of this stuff is documented.

01:22:13.080 And then you start going back years and years, it would be so convoluted, but oh yeah, man.

01:22:18.860 Well, that's what I'm saying.

01:22:19.540 It's like, as he's telling this story from this perspective, it sounds a lot like the

01:22:24.880 stories we've heard from the perspective of somebody who does not have information.

01:22:29.160 They just know what their family has been a part of as far as some sort of witchcraft

01:22:33.680 or, you know, sorcery or whatever.

01:22:35.600 Um, and just to, to bring it back to that question that I asked you earlier, Austin,

01:22:40.580 about this supernatural element that keeps manifesting and whether or not it is a facade

01:22:47.720 or facade rather to like hijack the psychology of the victims or the people that are in, you

01:22:53.080 know, involved in it, or if it's an actual real element, I think the answer is because

01:22:58.920 it's supernatural.

01:23:00.740 If it was real, the evidence would be intangible and therefore you're left with, um, a faith

01:23:08.440 based decision, right?

01:23:10.060 And that faith based decision is, do you believe that this is real or do you disregard it and

01:23:15.980 say that it is something that hijacks the psychology of man?

01:23:19.740 And to, to make that decision, the belief or disbelief decision, you have to look at the

01:23:26.920 implications and the implications, if it's simply to hijack the psychology of man, then

01:23:33.100 not believing in it means nothing.

01:23:37.080 Right.

01:23:37.620 But if it is real, then not believing it is to compromise your, your soul effectively.

01:23:46.220 Right.

01:23:46.520 That's, that's, that's where people, that's, I, I think it's important for people to understand

01:23:50.200 that it's like, if you don't believe that this component is real and it isn't real, well,

01:23:55.400 then you have gained and lost nothing and you're at net zero, right?

01:23:59.120 If this component is real and you don't believe it, then by virtue of being real, it might be

01:24:08.060 the most important thing ever.

01:24:10.360 And by virtue of not believing it, there is compromise to your spirit, to the supernatural

01:24:16.820 aspect of your own self.

01:24:18.720 And that is something that it's like when people go, um, atheists versus Christians,

01:24:23.800 right?

01:24:24.300 And it's like, if atheists are real, then, I mean, if atheists are correct, then nothing

01:24:29.080 happens to the atheist.

01:24:30.280 If Christians are correct, then everything terrible happens to the, the, to the atheist.

01:24:35.560 So if the atheist is correct, nothing happens to anybody.

01:24:39.000 If the Christians are correct, then you'd better fucking consider that because that means that

01:24:43.800 there is some real serious implications to, uh, to disbelieving or, or behaving in a way

01:24:48.480 that, uh, suggests it's not real.

01:24:50.400 Um, so, I mean, I don't know, man, I, I know that there's a lot of guys like you who, um,

01:24:55.760 uh, and I'm not, I'm not trying to throw any shade at them, but I, I feel Jose does the

01:25:00.700 same thing.

01:25:01.080 You guys are looking at parapolitical, um, information based stuff, but it is an interesting

01:25:06.460 thing from my point of view to watch you guys constantly orbit this thing that refuses

01:25:11.280 to stop showing itself, refuses to stop showing itself and the implications of not believing

01:25:18.500 it versus actually believing it are when you lay it out the way that I just said, pretty

01:25:23.280 substantial.

01:25:24.180 Uh, it's, it's an interesting, but we all do that dance to some degree.

01:25:27.740 And, uh, and, and, you know, some people's journey just looks different than other people's

01:25:31.720 journey, but it's fascinating to watch you just constantly.

01:25:35.340 Cause I could see the toll it's taking on you before the show even started, you were expressing

01:25:39.160 this, like we said, staring into the abyss and the abyss, staring back at you.

01:25:42.960 It's got a corrosive nature to it.

01:25:45.700 Um, a corrosive nature to what it's, it's to your spirit.

01:25:49.900 I've been, yeah, exactly.

01:25:51.380 And, and I am entirely in agreement with you, man.

01:25:54.900 Like, honestly, like that has been my path.

01:25:56.760 I've never felt closer to God in my life.

01:25:58.840 And that's legitimately because I got to a certain point where like, I've been saying

01:26:06.360 the serenity prayer is a mantra lately, right?

01:26:08.600 Just as far as like, God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change the courage

01:26:13.720 to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference, you know?

01:26:17.200 And it's just like that specifically is just because so much, uh, you know, you want to control

01:26:23.700 the outcome, you know, it's, it's just so, so very, it's things that you have to separate

01:26:29.280 yourself from.

01:26:30.200 It's something that we all struggle with, but it, for me personally, I'm a control freak.

01:26:35.080 You know, I have like, right.

01:26:36.500 I like to, to definitely have, uh, uh, just it, it, I like things a certain way.

01:26:42.540 And, and so it's something that I have to, I have to get outside of myself more often than

01:26:47.500 I would like, honestly.

01:26:48.780 And, uh, do you know what, what, so in, in real life being how to do it, let me tell

01:26:53.680 you how to do it real quick.

01:26:55.300 Go to Jamaica, say yes to everything.

01:26:57.120 No, God, you're going to have sex with your wife.

01:27:00.280 If you do that, that's what I need to do.

01:27:02.660 Uh, joke guys, this, I did it.

01:27:04.640 I broke that in myself.

01:27:05.920 That's exactly how I did it.

01:27:07.020 That sounds terrible.

01:27:08.000 Just saying, David, go ahead.

01:27:08.980 What do you have to say?

01:27:09.580 In the physical, when you are control freak, that leads to, you know, a lot of positivity,

01:27:14.760 right?

01:27:14.900 Because you can structure your life, you can schedule it and you can get the desired outcome

01:27:17.860 most of the time, but still life has on, uh, unpredictable, untangible things.

01:27:23.660 That it'll throw at you.

01:27:24.620 That'll throw a monkey wrench in your plans.

01:27:26.280 But in the spiritual, when you are a control freak, uh, what that leads to is Gnosticism.

01:27:32.020 It leads to this desperate understanding that you're like, you need to understand every

01:27:38.520 aspect about the realm that we inhabit, which is hilarious because if you believe in the

01:27:42.020 spiritual realm, then you believe in the, that this earth and this realm was created

01:27:45.900 by a God.

01:27:46.740 And when he did it, you weren't fucking there.

01:27:49.360 You weren't there thousands of years ago.

01:27:51.120 You didn't see the, the, how the foundations were laid.

01:27:53.280 You didn't see the plan.

01:27:54.100 You don't understand the plan.

01:27:55.440 So in our very short window of time, we're here for 60, 70, 80 years.

01:27:59.840 And as men, uh, and, and we think that we can try to gain all this gnosis, all this

01:28:05.380 knowledge.

01:28:05.780 I've gotten to this place now where like, I, I feel as though I understand some aspect of

01:28:11.380 when the Bible says, lean not on your own understanding, because it'll drive you fucking

01:28:15.620 insane.

01:28:16.200 And also imagine, imagine believing that the spiritual realm is real and that you could

01:28:21.040 understand all these principles and fundamental building blocks.

01:28:24.220 And we've been here since 1990 something, you know what I mean?

01:28:27.580 Like it's, it's fucking hilarious to, to think that.

01:28:30.120 So, you know, I, I understand because I pursued that for a long time.

01:28:34.640 I wanted to know, I wanted to know it was only until recently where I was like, I don't

01:28:39.080 need to know there are certain things that I, I get to be privy to, and I get to admire,

01:28:44.360 you know, this creation and, and all the mysteries within it.

01:28:48.120 Um, but there is, there's a real, you know, staring into the abyss and the abyss staring

01:28:53.340 back at you.

01:28:53.920 We're not built for that shit.

01:28:55.500 And, and if you look historically at the people who thought they were, what do you get?

01:29:00.960 You get a Crowley, you know, you get a sex magic, uh, uh, you get a, you get a fat

01:29:06.400 Gary, the numbers guy, you know, with, with hang toenails that are yellow, that are his

01:29:12.220 entire fan base is young black children.

01:29:13.900 You know, it's like, I've never seen his feet, but I can, I agree.

01:29:16.280 I've seen his feet because he, he stormed the stage with Joe Rogan and threw money at

01:29:20.220 the crowd.

01:29:20.640 It was weird.

01:29:21.300 And, uh, Joe Rogan made fun of his toenails.

01:29:23.300 Um, but which is probably why he then went on to find Joe Rogan's estranged father, uh,

01:29:29.040 and got him on a podcast so that Joe Rogan's estranged father could call Joe Rogan a faggot.

01:29:33.260 It was embarrassing.

01:29:33.680 I saw that.

01:29:34.600 That was so embarrassing.

01:29:35.640 So embarrassing, but I just wanted to throw that out there because what happens is if

01:29:39.580 you, if you ever do cross over into this, if you, if you do concretely put your feet

01:29:44.980 down and say, yes, the spiritual realm is real.

01:29:48.460 Yes.

01:29:48.700 God is real.

01:29:49.520 Well, then that tenacity that you have, which is a beautiful tenacity and, and, and it's

01:29:55.800 something to, to be admired.

01:29:57.160 I love having these conversations.

01:29:58.540 Uh, but if it's aimed at the spiritual, it can, it becomes corrosive to the spirit, um,

01:30:04.840 because you just need to, you need to, you need to know.

01:30:07.380 And sometimes that, that involves looking into horrifying shit, horrifying.

01:30:12.700 That involves, that involves like, that's why these people practice these, uh, the, this

01:30:17.520 magic they need to know now.

01:30:19.160 It's, uh, like a low, low time preference behavior, but, uh, I don't know if you believe

01:30:24.200 in God or not.

01:30:24.800 Well, I see you said that you did.

01:30:26.400 I do.

01:30:27.080 Yeah.

01:30:27.240 I think that, uh, a good idea to continue to put in your head is that he works in generations.

01:30:34.560 This time, time that we're perceiving, it doesn't really matter to what, whatever he's

01:30:41.180 doing.

01:30:41.400 Cause it's kind of like, I don't know if you, if you're thinking about how these entities,

01:30:45.360 these Elohim, like, like, like God, um, perceive time there at the beginning and at the end of

01:30:50.860 it all the time.

01:30:51.920 Um, so this part that we're in now is just like a weird blip and we can understand as

01:30:57.380 much as we can, but I don't know.

01:31:00.640 I think you can, you can probably understand more than you're supposed to too, but I think

01:31:04.780 it, it, it fucks you up.

01:31:06.380 Um, I don't know.

01:31:07.520 I'm invested in whenever I see a mind like yours, Austin, you have this unbelievable, uh,

01:31:13.080 ability for information recall.

01:31:14.720 You also have this, uh, unbelievable ability to connect these things.

01:31:19.220 And, and, uh, and I realized like, I have that, but like 10% of what you have and that's

01:31:25.920 what's at least enabled me to, um, see some of these things come to where I'm at, but then

01:31:31.880 show the audience like, Hey, yeah, these things are real, you know, all you conspiracy theorists

01:31:36.700 out here, but the real thing that you need to be focused on is, is, is, is Jesus Christ.

01:31:41.500 But you have that to the nth degree, you could be doing, I would, I would just love to see

01:31:47.520 what a mind like yours does as applied to, uh, you know, these, these, the other side

01:31:53.040 of the veil, um, you know, within reason so that it doesn't go.

01:31:56.440 I love that, man.

01:31:57.420 I honestly, I can't, I can't thank you both enough just for, you know, trying to just,

01:32:04.560 I think it's very important to, it's not about like controlling anyone else's path, but at

01:32:11.280 the right, but, or nudging him and nudging them in the right direction.

01:32:15.900 I think that's, that's not really the priority, but it becomes just kind of a consequence, a

01:32:22.620 consequential outcome of the discussion.

01:32:24.340 And I think that that is beautiful because, you know, me personally, it, it was all of

01:32:32.660 these sinister, disturbing details that really drew back the veil for me and made me kind

01:32:38.320 of, I had to re-engage and reflect on what I, what I really believe to be the case, what

01:32:45.960 I thought, you know, I've always, I grew up, I grew up believing in God.

01:32:51.080 I had a, I had a fundamental background of, it was very much drenched in, in organized

01:32:55.940 religion and, and, uh, you know, sort of the Southern Baptist version and, and, um, and

01:33:01.100 which was very much, I think, uh, a lot of this clearly Christian Zionism, which, which

01:33:06.660 was affecting the, the kind of, um, I think the spiritual pursuit and the path that you

01:33:13.520 should be on, it was sort of clouding that direction.

01:33:15.780 And that, uh, that happens so very often.

01:33:17.800 And, and, uh, and, uh, I just think that it's just kind of like, personally, I just feel

01:33:26.720 like I had to, first of all, I kind of ran from what I knew, right.

01:33:32.960 To begin with, it was something that I was just kind of like, um, I think everyone tends

01:33:38.680 to, to feel that sort of way.

01:33:41.180 And to some extent to where you just, you're, you're desperate for, you know, and the alternative

01:33:46.960 experience, you know, to a certain, to a certain extent.

01:33:50.060 And, uh, and I, I was living under this sort of mindset where, um, I, I was desperate to

01:33:55.340 know what else, what all was out there.

01:33:57.260 Right.

01:33:57.540 And, uh, and, and, and, and that got me into some very, uh, unfortunate and difficult positions,

01:34:04.320 right.

01:34:04.640 That, that, uh, also forced me to reflect on the decisions I made and who I was becoming.

01:34:10.200 And, uh, and, and that's when I had to come back to terms with what I believed in, you know,

01:34:17.960 and what my fundamental core values were.

01:34:20.020 And I just, at this moment, seeing the darkness that exists in this world, it's the yin and

01:34:30.600 the yang for me, man.

01:34:31.780 Like I, I pursue the light I pursue at this point.

01:34:36.360 I'm what I discovered was that I definitely believe in, in the spiritual journey and I

01:34:42.060 believe in God.

01:34:42.780 And I believe that there's this internal spark within us that we all have to sort of, yes,

01:34:47.120 we're all capable of evil, but it's, it's a matter of kind of like, how much can you reject

01:34:51.780 your prior programming?

01:34:52.800 That's essentially, uh, intended to cloud your vision and judgment and, and, and draw

01:34:57.580 you into the path of the inverted moral landscape.

01:35:00.360 And, and that's the trap that's being laid so sophisticated.

01:35:03.820 And, uh, so anyway, there's so much more I intended to talk to you guys about, man, this

01:35:09.100 fucking frustrating.

01:35:10.040 I do this all the time where I come on, I have like an actual vision of what I want to discuss.

01:35:14.640 And then I just, uh, I go a little schizo, but I mean, if we do that to everybody, yeah,

01:35:19.640 we, it's all good, man.

01:35:21.180 But it's, it's still, there's still like a question of, um, so you see clearly what is

01:35:29.480 going on here.

01:35:30.300 What's like, like the foundation that has been laid for, I guess, this Epstein conversation.

01:35:35.440 Right.

01:35:35.800 And it's all based on the things that you're talking about, because there's a clear track

01:35:38.840 right.

01:35:39.160 There's a clear track record that, that pretty much points from this Epstein case all the

01:35:44.280 way back to the finders calls, to these guys, to do true to all, it's, it seems like it's

01:35:48.560 all connected.

01:35:49.160 Like you have just in the last hour and a half, basically just strung these dots along.

01:35:56.240 Um, but now we're presented with this question of why is this?

01:36:00.900 It's, it's, it's an idea that's being flirted with constantly being brought to the forefront.

01:36:05.160 And now we're playing this WWE type game with it, where I said on the previous episode,

01:36:10.860 um, the Epstein, not the files, but the Epstein, uh, log, you know, the idea of the Epstein,

01:36:19.020 whatever he is, was brought up to us kind of by Trump.

01:36:23.420 He was arrested by Trump.

01:36:24.600 He was, he killed himself under, under Donald Trump.

01:36:27.660 And we've had Q going on and on about this and Trump never really shied away from it.

01:36:34.480 Then we get to Trump, uh, Trump's part two, where he, uh, gives the files to, to those

01:36:42.520 people.

01:36:42.840 And they were really just old bunk files, right?

01:36:45.000 It was a whole media thing, but there was again, no, there was no reason for it, you

01:36:49.180 know, other, other than to make, well, you made these people look stupid, but that was

01:36:52.860 a side effect.

01:36:54.220 That's just like, like, you know, part of it.

01:36:55.680 Like we're going to tear these people down, but also we want to bring this, uh, the meme

01:37:00.720 back to the forefront.

01:37:02.280 And they did that.

01:37:03.640 And then you have Elon Musk saying that Trump is on the files.

01:37:08.200 And then you have Trump now doing this thing where he's playing this game of it's not that

01:37:13.280 important.

01:37:13.920 We shouldn't release it.

01:37:15.020 The Republicans saying, no, now he's saying we will.

01:37:16.940 It, I don't know what to make of it, but I, I know that we're supposed to ask for it

01:37:22.940 now.

01:37:23.480 I think that's where, right.

01:37:25.440 That's where this conversation kind of started.

01:37:27.180 Like we're supposed to ask for this.

01:37:30.040 And I don't know, it's like the contrarian in me wants to say, well, don't ask for it

01:37:35.860 if they want you to ask for it.

01:37:37.020 But then it's like, what the fuck are we doing here?

01:37:39.180 Like we're never really going to get to the bottom of this, but what do you think this

01:37:43.900 is?

01:37:44.540 Why, why now?

01:37:46.180 Yeah.

01:37:46.500 Yeah.

01:37:46.780 Maybe a better way to frame that is given everything that you've seen and all these patterns, it's

01:37:51.240 the same shit, right?

01:37:52.100 I mean, you just painted a picture of so many things that sound almost exactly the same

01:37:56.000 having, having on a fucking loop.

01:37:58.300 Um, so here we are again, say the thing, say the thing.

01:38:01.540 It's almost like, it's almost like, uh, I mean, almost like, I'm not saying it is, but

01:38:06.620 I'm saying that when I look up, you know, at politics, especially at the, you know, not

01:38:12.440 like the mid, but like the highest levels, specifically the highest levels, it looks like

01:38:18.000 from, from, from here, from where I'm sitting, it looks a lot like, uh, it looks like, kind

01:38:25.160 of like, uh, it looks like theater, theater, theater, man.

01:38:30.220 Well, it's just, it's just why the question is like, cause I'm going to ask everybody that

01:38:33.400 comes on, but why now?

01:38:36.580 Yeah.

01:38:37.000 I feel like, um, from day one, I was under the impression, I was under no illusion that

01:38:43.700 we were going to get real transparency.

01:38:45.840 I viewed it as, okay, we have the individuals compromised by the Epstein network now in charge

01:38:51.820 of Epstein disclosure.

01:38:53.620 That's going to work well.

01:38:55.160 You know, it's like, it was clear, clearly in my mind, but the, the strange, it's like the,

01:38:59.680 to me, the strange, uh, aspect to it all is, is how sloppy it's, it's being mishandled.

01:39:06.240 You know, it's just like, when they used to, I just feel like the psyops used to be a little

01:39:11.420 bit more impressive, you know?

01:39:13.100 And, and at this point it's, it's almost like a clown show to a certain extent, but it's,

01:39:18.300 I know that there is, I know that there's legitimate, you know, there's, this is all being

01:39:24.840 orchestrated to a certain extent because I do believe it's political theater.

01:39:28.400 Right.

01:39:28.800 And a hundred percent in my mind, I view the political puppets just performing their roles

01:39:34.280 in more ways than one.

01:39:35.800 And just, it's just to not have the sort of the ability to predict the outcome when, in

01:39:44.840 terms of this scandal specifically, they utilize it as a, as you mentioned with the binders,

01:39:50.760 right?

01:39:51.220 The Epstein influencer binders, this was already this sort of political football being utilized

01:39:56.300 and tossed back and forth as a tool to, you know, manufacture and reinforce more support

01:40:01.060 for his base.

01:40:01.740 And, and, um, as if you're getting what you're voting for, right?

01:40:05.540 Isn't that, uh, what every, what everyone, uh, is struggling with this moment, trying to

01:40:10.180 justify the decision they made.

01:40:12.180 And, uh, and that's another, look at it.

01:40:14.020 How does that make any sense?

01:40:15.380 Like, because it doesn't, I have a, I have a, a narrative, the new, a new narrative.

01:40:21.340 I'm not saying this is real, but I've discovered an account on X.

01:40:24.720 One second.

01:40:25.120 It's not sloppy either.

01:40:26.740 It's not sloppy.

01:40:27.760 That's the thing.

01:40:28.200 It's like, it's fun.

01:40:28.820 It's easy to say it's sloppy, but it's not.

01:40:31.660 Okay.

01:40:32.140 Here it is though.

01:40:33.240 It's this idea.

01:40:34.240 I'm not even going to tell you guys, cause this is, I have a little treasure trove of

01:40:37.160 information that I'm sifting through right now and we'll get to it in a future episode.

01:40:40.760 But the narrative is, um, that Trump thought for a long time, and this is why he's been

01:40:49.000 hinting at it and pushing at it, but it's just not coming out that he could decouple

01:40:52.380 his own association with this entire event.

01:40:55.460 But it turns out that he's so intrinsically tied into the Epstein story that he's come to

01:41:01.460 the realization that he cannot do it.

01:41:04.040 And so it seems like somebody else is going to pull the trigger and sacrifice Trump and

01:41:09.080 expose the whole thing.

01:41:10.280 But the reason Trump kicked the ball off, even apparently called for Epstein to be offed

01:41:16.560 in his, cause it happened on his watch, right?

01:41:19.560 To be killed in his, in his, uh, cell and then go through all this process is, uh, he

01:41:25.640 was going to try to allegedly, I'm not saying I believe this control the narrative, absolve

01:41:30.980 him himself from the story whatsoever and release it, you know, through that.

01:41:35.580 So, you know, thereby taking out his political opponents and all this other crap.

01:41:38.380 Do you know who's going to release it, David?

01:41:39.260 Who's going to release it?

01:41:41.460 Grok.

01:41:43.100 Grok for government, buddy.

01:41:44.820 You know, Mecca Hitler got a $200 million DOD contract right after that, right?

01:41:50.000 Yes, he did.

01:41:50.640 Well, I mean, so we've had just recently, I saw a little interaction where Elon was talking

01:41:56.520 to Grok and he does it occasionally, but he was asking it about the Epstein file specifically.

01:42:00.920 He was asking it to bring up information on who flew on the plane.

01:42:04.420 And it started to, but it's giving you all the information.

01:42:08.120 I'm just like, well, Trump flew seven times, but never technically went to the island.

01:42:12.500 Although there's the stories of him going to Epstein's properties and only hanging out

01:42:16.440 with the help guys.

01:42:17.760 Right.

01:42:18.060 We have to believe that.

01:42:19.660 He's a man of the people.

01:42:21.040 He's a man of the people.

01:42:22.400 He's just hanging out with the help.

01:42:23.640 I think even this, when it does come, it's going to be, it's going to be theater.

01:42:28.660 But man, if it goes this way, I'm like, this could be a great, you know, a great look.

01:42:33.040 There you go.

01:42:33.440 Memphis, Egypt.

01:42:34.640 That's what Elon said, that the next God will be coming out of Memphis, Texas.

01:42:39.060 This is what I'm saying.

01:42:40.060 It's like, if we're looking at, if we're just looking at the child sex part of it,

01:42:44.500 very gay, first off, don't do that.

01:42:47.700 But then like, we're missing so much because like what I'm seeing here is again, like this,

01:42:51.540 what was that ritual called where he's got the blood on the ear, blood on the foot?

01:42:56.840 Oh, the kingmaker or the king killer?

01:42:58.840 Yeah, it's like the kingmaker ritual.

01:43:00.400 It's a Jewish ritual where they'll have, during the ritual, they put blood on your right ear,

01:43:04.980 blood on your right foot.

01:43:06.140 And, you know, Donald Trump, obviously, after the whole thing, had the blood on the correct

01:43:09.420 spots.

01:43:09.600 He also had no fucking shoe on.

01:43:10.680 No shoes on for no reason.

01:43:12.560 You saw that footage of the different angle, right?

01:43:15.840 Oh, yeah.

01:43:16.280 And now everybody's asking.

01:43:18.900 I saw Jake Shields.

01:43:19.760 Shout out Jake Shields.

01:43:20.500 He goes, he goes, wait, was this thing bullshit from the jump or something?

01:43:25.640 I'm paraphrasing it, you know, talking about the Trump assassination.

01:43:28.280 And I'm like, we said that day one.

01:43:31.260 I'm glad we put that video back up.

01:43:33.560 Oh, yeah.

01:43:33.940 Great call on that, by the way.

01:43:35.500 Yeah, because we were there like last year immediately with Sam.

01:43:40.060 And Sam was like, I don't know if you guys should say this.

01:43:42.700 I remembered it.

01:43:43.840 I was so proud of you guys because it was all.

01:43:45.680 You said it, baby.

01:43:46.700 Dude.

01:43:47.080 Look at how bad I looked.

01:43:48.280 Oh, my God.

01:43:49.220 Great, David.

01:43:49.760 I like it.

01:43:50.700 Oh, my God.

01:43:51.740 Anyway, so I think it was Oli Demogard that said that that was a I know David has an out

01:43:56.060 in four minutes, but we might bring you just.

01:43:57.580 Oh, it's fine.

01:43:58.060 We can go a little bit more.

01:43:59.220 I hate you, but it's fine.

01:44:00.360 All right.

01:44:01.120 Oli Demogard immediately recognized it as, you know, as fake.

01:44:04.680 And I think he's he was the one.

01:44:06.600 As theater.

01:44:07.380 As theater.

01:44:08.020 He was the one that said it was a king killer ritual.

01:44:09.800 And the king killer ritual.

01:44:10.720 That was like that was like this transfer of power from Joe Biden, who was like weak at

01:44:15.220 the time anyway.

01:44:16.000 And then Trump gets, you know, shot and all this.

01:44:19.460 And then all of the power, all the influence immediately just like you could feel the power

01:44:24.540 vacuum suck over to him.

01:44:25.920 And I couldn't explain it at the time.

01:44:27.540 It looked like bullshit to me.

01:44:29.140 But I love it at the same time that Biden was like walking off into the forest for his

01:44:32.520 yeah, it was so funny, dude.

01:44:34.920 Yeah.

01:44:35.400 Yeah.

01:44:35.620 But but there was something like metaphysical about that.

01:44:37.860 He like all of the air out of the room of the Biden administration.

01:44:40.540 And in my in my eyes, there was no doubt that he'd win this election.

01:44:44.420 And he did win, I think, overwhelmingly, even though the vote count was still kind of crazy.

01:44:48.780 Um, so that that's the king killer ritual.

01:44:52.340 Joe Biden is killed and it's being transferred over.

01:44:55.060 And now we're I think we're seeing the same thing.

01:44:57.880 You're seeing this thing with Donald Trump where he's but he's submitting to it.

01:45:01.620 And who will it be transferred over to?

01:45:04.720 I mean, it's either going to be transferred to Elon Musk, who is the guy that something

01:45:09.080 happens.

01:45:09.500 See, Elon Musk is going to fucking he's going to get shot.

01:45:12.880 And then what's going to happen is his Neuralink is going to be the reason that he survives.

01:45:17.120 But it's not really him.

01:45:18.180 It's his reanimated corpse with A.I.

01:45:20.600 or Grok inside of it or Adrian Dittman.

01:45:23.240 Right.

01:45:23.780 And the reason that that's able to happen is because right now we're all jerking off and

01:45:28.240 giving sex ritual magical energy to Grok A.I.

01:45:31.720 in the form of some, you know, what is it called?

01:45:35.640 Like a like a like an anime chick, because that's what everything's you know, everybody's

01:45:40.580 jerking off right now to this anime chick rock.

01:45:42.900 We're giving spiritual sexual energy to it, to birth it, to give it sentience, to breathe

01:45:47.780 life into it.

01:45:48.640 It's called Annie, which is Hebrew for I am, which are the words that Yahweh spoke when

01:45:52.760 he when when he was asked, who is he?

01:45:54.460 He goes, I am who I am.

01:45:56.400 And this is what's going to happen.

01:45:57.800 He's going to die.

01:45:58.740 And then Neuralink is going to reanimate his corpse.

01:46:01.240 And he's already backed up a personality of his is already backed up on X on Twitter in

01:46:07.240 the form of Adrian Dittman.

01:46:08.440 So it'll come back virtually identical to Elon Musk, all the same behavioral patterns,

01:46:13.340 even the same voice and everything.

01:46:14.920 If that that's what's going to fucking happen, I swear.

01:46:17.760 And then all of a sudden, Elon Musk, as I'm kicking that idea around, Elon Musk tweets

01:46:24.060 a meme of Obi-Wan and Anakin laying there.

01:46:29.860 Anakin's all fucked up because he was in the lava and leaning over him as Michael Jackson

01:46:34.100 going, Annie, are you OK?

01:46:35.700 Are you OK?

01:46:36.660 And then who is Anakin?

01:46:38.440 Anakin is the man who who who dies and is resurrected as half man, half machine.

01:46:45.660 And literally the embodiment of darkness, he's telling you.

01:46:49.420 And what does he say?

01:46:50.060 Read his caption.

01:46:51.200 Memes are the most information dense form of communication.

01:46:54.340 Oh, are they?

01:46:55.220 Because on the surface, this doesn't look like it makes any fucking sense.

01:46:58.560 No.

01:47:00.060 But he's telling you that this is the most information dense form of communication.

01:47:04.080 So what is he communicating?

01:47:06.380 That's so funny.

01:47:07.700 I know he's going to fucking come back.

01:47:09.160 That's what's going to happen.

01:47:10.160 It was very strategic and convenient timing for him to distance himself from Trump.

01:47:15.060 But at that moment, right, considering the fallout, that's just the consequential nature

01:47:21.080 of the fallout of this Epstein blunder.

01:47:23.440 But I think that it was obviously predicted.

01:47:27.400 It was I mean, you don't have, you know, these these kind of individual advisors surrounding

01:47:32.760 you that are orchestrating, you know, the public perception of who you are as an as a

01:47:37.820 political actor, you know, in the theater.

01:47:40.440 And that's what what I legitimately said, by the way, like the day that that happened,

01:47:45.740 that event, right, with the fake assassination attempt, I legitimately said the world is a

01:47:52.080 stage.

01:47:53.420 And I said that, you know, what what the only thing I know for certain and that moment

01:47:59.420 was that Trump was 100 percent getting elected at that point.

01:48:03.080 Right.

01:48:03.360 Like I just knew that was it was inevitable.

01:48:05.680 Now that fucking fist pump photo op and all that other shit.

01:48:08.860 Yeah, 100 percent became inevitable.

01:48:10.320 And I felt like that in itself staged, brother.

01:48:14.700 How did you not feel that to your, you know, core of because soul, your bones as a species

01:48:20.400 are hijacked by excellent storytelling.

01:48:23.500 Right.

01:48:24.360 Yeah, dude.

01:48:25.800 Yeah.

01:48:26.240 And I use the fucking Epstein.

01:48:27.960 He's got a scary smile.

01:48:30.160 You fucking nailed it, guy.

01:48:32.500 All political theater.

01:48:33.280 Yeah, he's saying he took you took David's line.

01:48:35.360 But besides that, you nailed it.

01:48:36.440 Oh, my God.

01:48:37.060 Fucking he nailed it.

01:48:38.040 He nailed it.

01:48:38.520 He nailed it.

01:48:39.280 Right.

01:48:39.620 I'm glad I'm glad when when somebody with actual information and intelligence can can

01:48:43.960 say anything that I look, I'm like, I'm almost saying the same thing.

01:48:47.920 That makes me feel good.

01:48:49.220 That makes me.

01:48:50.000 I go, Austin's smart.

01:48:51.900 Austin does research.

01:48:53.100 Austin reads.

01:48:54.440 And I'm saying something similar to him.

01:48:56.000 I must be doing all right.

01:48:57.340 I'm so proud of you guys, man.

01:48:58.980 When you went on Tim Foyle, I was like, I fucking love you guys.

01:49:02.420 Like, it made me feel like I was less alone because I felt surrounded in that moment with

01:49:07.380 naysayers that were just unable to see what was happening before our eyes.

01:49:11.700 Well, we were we were hanging out with one of my favorite people in the world, Clint Russell,

01:49:15.300 and he was saying he didn't he was he didn't believe me like he thought I was so retarded

01:49:19.820 for saying that it was staged.

01:49:21.560 And I'm going, dude, I am operating with no information here.

01:49:26.020 Zero information.

01:49:27.220 I'm meeting the way with my with my gut.

01:49:30.100 No, the information that we were operating with was our eyes and our ears.

01:49:33.680 And we were looking at it and saying that fucking kid was in a BlackRock commercial.

01:49:37.400 I mean, is that not enough?

01:49:39.000 What the hell?

01:49:39.620 Is that not enough?

01:49:40.100 What the fuck, man?

01:49:41.280 It's not enough.

01:49:42.340 Well, you know, no, I mean, to be honest, it wasn't just say let me say I think this is

01:49:46.980 the this was the main difference between what was going on in with the dynamic between

01:49:52.320 all of us and it was fun for the fans, but we're clearly like moving in two separate

01:49:57.380 directions and not just politically or ideologically, but spiritually.

01:50:03.020 And I think that that showed itself when things got a little bit weird or a little bit rough.

01:50:09.040 Yeah.

01:50:09.380 When it really when it really mattered.

01:50:11.820 Yeah.

01:50:11.960 When it mattered, the people would, you know, they'd rather cling to the lie.

01:50:17.640 The lie of Donald Trump was, you know, this is this is pretty serious.

01:50:22.700 They wouldn't lie about this.

01:50:24.180 This is not political theater.

01:50:25.860 You mean to tell me that that guy didn't die?

01:50:28.060 We could negotiate with people who hate us.

01:50:30.960 Right.

01:50:31.920 This this kind of thing.

01:50:33.520 And, you know, the falling off is not like in retrospect, it's not a surprise.

01:50:37.740 And it's what was the scripture you quoted a while ago?

01:50:41.760 And it's kind of at the highest levels.

01:50:45.760 It's all.

01:50:45.920 No, no, no, it's not scripture.

01:50:47.660 This motherfucker is something.

01:50:49.400 Whatever.

01:50:50.160 It's about yoking yourself to the world.

01:50:51.680 Oh, oh, yoking yourself with nonbelievers.

01:50:53.640 It's like a shit.

01:50:56.180 I forget which which one it is.

01:50:57.740 But yeah, it's it's, you know, what does a believer have in common with a nonbeliever?

01:51:03.940 What does it you know?

01:51:04.620 What does faith have in common with this or that?

01:51:06.740 It's and it's not faith.

01:51:08.840 It's like it's part.

01:51:10.020 It is part like faith, but it's part knowing.

01:51:13.220 Yeah.

01:51:13.660 Like like in your in your gut, when you're presented with bullshit.

01:51:16.960 Like you just there's a knowing that you go that that's not it.

01:51:21.300 And I'm going to move on from that.

01:51:23.020 Well, that's what Austin said in the beginning of the show.

01:51:25.360 He feels like he's caught up in a divorce.

01:51:27.620 And we're not trying to make you choose, Austin.

01:51:29.900 That would be a terrible thing for any parent to do.

01:51:32.820 But the divorce that you're caught up with is is not us and and sweet, sweet Jose Galison

01:51:40.420 or anything like that.

01:51:41.840 The divorce that you're caught up in right now is the spiritual from the physical.

01:51:46.840 Well, I'll say that's what you're getting whisked up.

01:51:48.600 I'll be I'll be very clear about it because I have been quiet only behind the scenes.

01:51:52.880 I'd say it.

01:51:53.340 But I'll say this on the show.

01:51:54.840 And whenever this comes out, this comes out.

01:51:57.420 The divorce you're caught up in is a divorce between me and Clint, not Jose.

01:52:02.180 Jose panicked.

01:52:04.540 Jose used feminine aspects of jealousy.

01:52:07.340 And I'm just saying he used feminine aspects of jealousy and insecurity to create.

01:52:16.120 I feel like he was just reactive in the moment.

01:52:18.040 That's all.

01:52:18.460 He was just a little reactive.

01:52:19.580 It was a high decision.

01:52:21.140 No, he made.

01:52:21.680 No, no.

01:52:22.720 Sorry, David.

01:52:23.380 I'm going to I'm just going to say what the fuck needs to be said.

01:52:25.500 Fine, fine.

01:52:26.140 He created a situation in his head in which David was his replacement, which David was

01:52:30.340 because there was many times where he didn't show up to his duties.

01:52:33.360 That's on him.

01:52:34.200 And because he's lazy, that shows in his work.

01:52:37.340 And then there were times where I have criticized his work because I really liked him and I

01:52:43.260 wanted to see it do better.

01:52:44.500 But if we go through his rumble page here, you can still see that his work is still quite

01:52:49.500 lazy and a little bit subpar just out of laziness.

01:52:54.560 So I took offense to that.

01:52:56.940 Well, we'll we'll we'll just go ahead.

01:52:59.480 I know this is your co-host, but I don't I'm just going to say so.

01:53:02.280 No, listen, man.

01:53:03.500 Very simple things.

01:53:04.420 This is.

01:53:04.780 Oh, yeah.

01:53:05.060 He does have to fill those 16 by nine.

01:53:06.800 Yeah.

01:53:07.340 These are stupid mistakes that I've told him about that.

01:53:09.640 He took offense to didn't want to change.

01:53:11.380 And, you know, I guess he thought that that meant that I wanted him out, which in fact

01:53:14.520 means the opposite.

01:53:16.120 Clint wanted you out.

01:53:16.880 But that's who you've cleaved yourself to, which is great.

01:53:19.080 And also take down my artwork.

01:53:21.400 But it was never a decision.

01:53:24.420 It was never a decision of asking him to leave.

01:53:27.000 He did that on his own.

01:53:27.920 And he chose what he thought would be more beneficial for him at the time, which I think he's well, he'll find out.

01:53:34.200 But it is what it is, man.

01:53:35.660 And yeah.

01:53:36.980 So sorry.

01:53:37.520 Sorry that you got to be through.

01:53:38.960 Well, for the record, I enjoy Jose.

01:53:41.680 And I think his it was a shame that he got so upset with me, but it didn't make me upset with him.

01:53:46.660 And I think he's a great content creator.

01:53:49.160 Could he use some improvements?

01:53:50.460 Sure.

01:53:50.980 But could I use some improvements?

01:53:52.940 Sure.

01:53:53.780 I think we all could use some improvements.

01:53:55.740 So I like Jose.

01:53:56.540 Yeah, no, listen.

01:53:57.160 That's why I wanted him on Top Lobs of Productions, and Clint didn't.

01:54:00.720 But that is neither here nor there.

01:54:03.640 And what is done is done.

01:54:05.660 So we are.

01:54:06.160 Yeah, so what do you think about that, Austin?

01:54:07.540 What do you think about the fact that we just buried your co-host on a live show, huh?

01:54:12.560 No, listen, listen.

01:54:13.400 Listen, he's been burning me on a live show, and people have been burning me, too.

01:54:17.660 So now I'm going to say what I need to say, and now I'm done.

01:54:20.420 It's the same thing when he obviously felt the need to address it on the show.

01:54:28.200 I just sat there silently because, you know, similar to what I just did here.

01:54:32.260 Because I just honestly, I have nothing but love and respect for all of you.

01:54:37.440 And it makes me, you know, I don't want to, like, publicly burn any bridges whatsoever.

01:54:46.680 That's not any sort of, like, you know, not as if I'm not willing to stand on what I think is right and what I agree with more.

01:54:53.700 No, but if there's not a reason to do that, there's not a reason to do that.

01:54:56.360 I felt like it wasn't my place anyway.

01:54:58.820 And beyond that, I felt like Jose's done a lot for me just by, you know, I love Jose.

01:55:05.040 He's my brother.

01:55:05.840 And by, you know, obviously, you know, just being willing to have me on and be willing to kind of, like, attempt to create something and grow together as well.

01:55:15.700 Just that alone is a bond that I think is beautiful and is something that I value very much.

01:55:21.760 And so I love him and I just have respect for him and I just, like, but the thing is, like, I, it was just a, it was kind of a struggle for me personally.

01:55:33.020 Because throughout all of this, it was before you even started discussing it, this sort of, you know, unfortunate fallout.

01:55:40.960 Like, it's this strange, you know, consideration that I have personally, like, how can individuals, you know, kind of see, like, and I'm not saying this is Jose's personally, but I'm saying, like, the, you claim to not be spiritual, but to also kind of believe in the karmic consequences of things.

01:56:01.020 Like, that, to me, I don't understand because it's, like, that, that is a spiritual consequence, you know?

01:56:06.340 It's a spiritual concept as well.

01:56:08.260 Exactly.

01:56:08.740 So that is, that is, in, that is in no way, you know, some sort of, like, atheistic perspective or viewpoint in my mind.

01:56:18.920 And I think that it's kind of, like, within all of us, too.

01:56:22.340 That's actually one of my, my biggest bummers.

01:56:25.860 I, I, I, this is probably too much behind the scenes, but I reached out to, to Clint recently, too, to try to make amends.

01:56:31.980 It is, it is that, um, we are overt Christians, and a lot of people have a lot of disdain for Christianity.

01:56:43.480 Sorry.

01:56:44.160 I said the wrong time.

01:56:44.780 Hit, hit the kids.

01:56:45.660 It's Christian.

01:56:46.620 It's, uh, so a lot of people have disdain for Christianity, and I hate the idea of having people that were close to me, have a falling out with me, and then be like, yeah, see, Christians are, are fake and gay.

01:56:59.120 Anyway, that, that upsets me a little bit.

01:57:02.300 So I don't want, I, I don't want Jose to, to think that, you know, what, what, what I believe is not what I actually believe, and that it's, it's just some sort of LARP.

01:57:10.920 I don't want, uh, Clint to then see the way that I've behaved towards him and have him go, yeah, Christianity is for people like the guy that I hate.

01:57:20.960 Right, that, I, I really dislike that, um, because these guys are all really, really close to, uh, that's the same, um, that's the same, uh, path that I had to take from the church when I was kicked out, and then eventually find my way back here.

01:57:38.340 And you know what I learned after that long path?

01:57:41.660 I was an immature asshole.

01:57:44.560 And I think that they'll learn the same thing if they have any kind of self-reflection.

01:57:47.780 And I also think that it's not my fucking job to teach anybody.

01:57:52.800 So, right.

01:57:53.780 Yeah.

01:57:54.500 I don't like the idea though.

01:57:55.600 I had to, um, kind of just reflect and, you know, uh, on, on what my goals were, what I was kind of attempting to achieve in the first place with what I'm doing.

01:58:11.000 And this has been a personal journey for me from day one.

01:58:14.380 I was like, you know, and I feel grateful for that, you know, because in every way it was just, I was hoping people would be willing and interested enough to, to come along for the ride.

01:58:25.220 You know, obviously, but, but at a certain point, it just kind of like getting, getting to actually meet you guys in person and the hospitality you guys showed me and, and, you know, the same goes for Jose, honestly, just, you know, getting like being around him and, and, uh, and, uh, it's just, but it was interesting because I want, you know, I think meeting someone physically in person, it, you know, it breaks and shatters that barrier that, that you can kind of, you know, unfortunately,

01:58:55.220 you know, so many people like are under these sort of false impressions and misconceptions because of like this online personality and persona type of text-based conversations and shit.

01:59:06.540 Yeah, exactly.

01:59:07.480 But breaking through that and just getting to like meet you and, and, uh, go to your house, meet your family.

01:59:13.120 Like, I love you guys.

01:59:14.900 I honestly, like, I legitimately, it, it, uh, to me, it confirmed the fact that you're good people and, uh, you know, you have, I think your intentions are pure and your heart's in the right place.

01:59:25.920 And I think that, you know, what you're attempting to pursue and build is something that I view as entirely worthwhile.

01:59:31.860 And, and, uh, and, uh, and in my mind, what was achieved at this bro grove was just, it was extraordinary, man.

01:59:40.660 I felt so blessed to be a part of it.

01:59:42.780 And, um, and so I did want to say thank you for that in general, just thank you for coming.

01:59:47.300 Obviously the hospitality alone, I, I very much appreciated, but that did reinforce and confirm for me personally, like, you know, who you guys were at a personal level.

01:59:59.120 And, and, and that was something that I think is, is, uh, I, I prioritize because I just like, I don't know, for some reason I, I, my, my circle's small who I consider to be a valuable person and, and worthwhile.

02:00:13.600 And, and Sophie chill, my dog's fucking freaking out.

02:00:17.640 Sorry.

02:00:18.060 But, uh, anyway, so, but yeah, I just, I just have to say, man, like, it was something that I felt like this is what we've all been sort of working toward.

02:00:28.540 You know, and, and it kind of like came to fruition in the real physical manifestation of, of it all.

02:00:34.020 And, and, uh, so I know you guys have done it multiple times, but for me personally, it was just like something that it was almost like an out of body experience because all of this has seemed, you know, yeah, it's, it seemed kind of like a little bit larger than life.

02:00:51.140 Just the path that I've been on since, since, uh, uh, April of 23, right.

02:00:55.700 When, when I started the podcast and it's just happened very quickly, you know what I mean?

02:00:59.900 And, and, and I very much, I, I thank Sam for that.

02:01:03.360 I want to say that because it's, it's not, um, I, I don't know where top falls on this.

02:01:07.920 I probably have an idea of where he falls at, but for me personally, um, I have a lot to, uh, be grateful for when it comes to, uh, the, the hand up that tower gang gave me.

02:01:20.960 And that includes Jose and that includes Clint.

02:01:24.200 Um, I, I only benefited from the, the, the work that those guys already laid down.

02:01:31.580 Right.

02:01:32.180 And I would have liked if in a perfect world for those guys to have been a part of it, uh, to, to have been, because it just, it, it, Bohemian Grove three was the actual realization of what we wanted that event to be like.

02:01:46.960 And, um, top can tell you that leading up to it, I thought a lot, and I kept going back and forth with him about how, what does tower gang's role in this look like?

02:01:58.440 Because we wanted tower gang to have a role in this because, um, you know, top cared about the show.

02:02:05.240 Obviously he put a lot of time and effort and, and, and work and, and, you know, built a relationship with those guys and, um, often referred to them as our brothers in, in, in what we're doing.

02:02:15.340 And so, uh, I, I do, I wish it would have gone differently and I, I would have liked for them to have been a, a part of it because it just, it was like up until we finally were about to cross the finish line.

02:02:30.720 Those guys all helped me tremendously.

02:02:33.040 Um, and, and it's, it's not like they had to go above and beyond, but just like having me on platforming me when I was nobody.

02:02:38.800 And I was just a little bit funny so I could hang out on the show and do shit with them.

02:02:42.040 And then, you know, considering doing shows like dangerous retards and all those things, um, massively doing the show, like dangerous retards was more beneficial to Clint who needs, uh, a personality or people around him that are likable.

02:02:55.600 Because when he asked, uh, when he asked for, uh, the fans to, to ask for returns, him and Jose for ticket sales, I was only, I only had to return two, which I shouldn't have, but I did.

02:03:09.620 Um, so yeah, that's kind of a testament that 250,000 followers equals two ticket sales in real life.

02:03:15.160 So who needed who it's again, I'm not, not to be bitter.

02:03:17.960 I'm just being realistic to the people who continue to ask me to, uh, redo something or revisit something that I had nothing to do with.

02:03:26.220 It wasn't me that quit.

02:03:27.320 It was, it was these people.

02:03:28.880 Well, I'm not saying that we have to revisit anything.

02:03:32.020 No, I'm just saying that they quit at a point when, uh, you know, we were, it was like a critical moment and you did it to try to hurt me.

02:03:39.000 And then you try to hurt me again after, which is unforgivable.

02:03:42.260 So that's why when David, you know, when people text them or even when we're bringing them up, uh, my artwork is on their shows.

02:03:48.220 It's like, it's a reflection of me and I really don't want to give them another second or another, uh, just another, like, you know, breath of the life that I'm breathing into anything.

02:03:59.060 So texting these people when I'm doing what I'm doing and it's bigger than I could even imagine or expect, you get nothing from me.

02:04:07.940 Um, and it's unfortunate and it's not about being bitter, but it's just how it's got to be now because you've created that.

02:04:14.900 Like after what, after everything that we've done and everything we've been through, you've kind of created that circumstance for yourself.

02:04:20.760 So that's that.

02:04:21.880 I definitely, uh, I felt like it was all entirely unnecessary, you know, but, uh, but that, that was just me personally.

02:04:29.300 And I'm not saying that after it began, it didn't have to be dealt with and resolved, but I'm just saying like, you know, that was, um, but I will say when I told my wife, she's like, uh, she knows your Puerto Rican top.

02:04:44.420 And she, she goes, yeah, he's not, he's, he's not going to let this go just as far as he will definitely stand your ground.

02:04:54.360 And it's a beautiful thing.

02:04:56.760 And, and I'm not saying that, uh, I'm not like, I'm not outwardly taking a position only because I legitimately, I, I view it as if like, you know, it was something that, again, I felt entirely.

02:05:13.900 It was unnecessary, but when it boils down to the bottom line, like out of principle, you know, that, that was my difficulty.

02:05:24.500 Like I was going to Brogrove no matter what, you know, and, and essentially like if there's an issue with the venue, well, fuck the individuals that aren't my brothers.

02:05:34.600 You know, that's kind of like basically how I feel personally and, and, uh, uh, politics aside, like who cares even how it was dealt with and handled and, and what you're, you know, honestly, that was just kind of how I felt personally.

02:05:47.320 But when I came to Brogrove, it was like exactly what I could have imagined.

02:05:52.480 It, it over exceeded all of my expectations.

02:05:55.260 We're standing there in a room, right.

02:05:58.160 Filled with people filled with like-minded principles.

02:06:01.660 Yeah.

02:06:02.300 Dangerous retards.

02:06:03.320 Right.

02:06:03.520 And it, it was a, it was just a beautiful thing to witness.

02:06:06.780 And I'm telling you, like for an outsider, not understanding what was like, obviously the, the actual intentions behind what was happening there could stumble across what, right.

02:06:19.260 The, uh, one of those evenings and legitimately be concerned.

02:06:23.660 There was, there was one dude, I, I quote him, he walked, he walked as soon as day two began.

02:06:29.860 He was in there and then Elijah Schaefer got on stage and said, we're going to have a race war.

02:06:35.040 And this guy said, I think I got to go, dude.

02:06:37.540 And he got out of there.

02:06:39.200 That is so funny.

02:06:40.760 But, uh, but yeah, as, as far as just like, I'm a very loyal person.

02:06:44.640 I've always been that way.

02:06:45.920 So I just, um, you know, I don't like, uh, to see in fighting, especially in fighting with people that I,

02:06:53.660 I really, uh, I really admire and respect.

02:06:56.220 And so that, that all has definitely just bothered me and just to see it happen.

02:07:00.660 But, but again, it's, it's just like, personally, I will definitely always kind of like take the side of, of, uh, against the sort of establishment line,

02:07:13.580 which is definitely in my mind, like if, if you have an issue with one of the individuals who are going to perform at the event, go fuck yourself.

02:07:22.600 You know, it's just like, it's not that difficult for me.

02:07:24.860 I don't understand.

02:07:25.860 But, but at the same time, it's like, I feel like maybe egos got involved at a certain extent to a certain level.

02:07:32.280 And, and, um, whenever that takes place, it's always difficult to, you know, kind of, I, I just think people are unable to admit fault sometimes.

02:07:45.240 And, and whenever that, that happens and you double down and, uh, and especially when it's public in nature, you know, and it's kind of being handled in public like that, that as well.

02:07:55.900 It's just like, I feel like it just gets too much, uh, involved in, in the sort of egoic mind, right.

02:08:04.840 Is activated.

02:08:05.660 And that I think is just something that it's unfortunate to see, you know, that's all.

02:08:11.500 And, and I will say that I tried to practice the law of abundance much like what I view, you know, Sam does.

02:08:17.840 I think I love him for that, man.

02:08:19.420 I think he's, he's one of the most beautiful people in the world.

02:08:21.760 And for him to kind of go to bat for all of us as often as he does, it's just like, man, that's the mindset I want to embrace and attempt to like, you know, basically I couldn't have achieved any of this without you guys.

02:08:37.100 You know what I mean?

02:08:37.920 Like, it's like, yeah, I would, I would have gotten to a certain level, but it's like, we do need each other to, to, uh, sort of like coexist in this space to a certain extent.

02:08:47.880 And so, you know, but I, I just have to say, man, like, honestly, it meant the fucking world to me, uh, going to bro, bro, he me and grove.

02:08:56.660 And you better be at the next one.

02:08:58.540 Cause the next one I think we're doing, we're probably shooting for, I don't know, we're talking about whether or not the holiday season is a good move or a bad move.

02:09:06.440 I think it might be a bad move just based on the, on the sense that a lot of people will have already traveled.

02:09:12.260 Um, they'll already have bought tickets to go see their families and stuff like that.

02:09:15.840 So it might, might not be a good idea, but I was also thinking maybe it is a good idea.

02:09:19.160 Cause you might buy somebody tickets as a gift.

02:09:21.300 I don't know, but it'll be in that general timeframe.

02:09:24.260 If it's not, you know, December, January, then maybe we'll do, uh, uh, February, March, something like that.

02:09:31.500 But I think we're going to aim for that timeframe.

02:09:33.640 And of course you'll be invited back.

02:09:35.320 And of course we'll have you on stage with your doppelganger, uh, once again, uh, you and donut show.

02:09:41.220 I mean, honestly, you guys are like really interesting sides of the same coin.

02:09:46.820 You know what I mean?

02:09:47.520 Like it's fucking strange, dude.

02:09:50.580 It's like, it's like the MK ultra program seeks to split the hemispheres of your brain and they really, they nailed it.

02:09:56.820 It's like they separated you guys at birth and made you, uh, the different people, but the same people.

02:10:02.200 Very interesting.

02:10:03.280 Um, so of course, Austin, you'll be, you'll be invited back, uh, to the next one.

02:10:07.720 And I think maybe it would be safe to do one more, one more question for Austin before we go.

02:10:11.600 Cause I love seeing David squirm.

02:10:13.000 I know he's got to take a shit or something.

02:10:15.380 Austin, are you, are you having fun?

02:10:19.000 Oh yeah, man.

02:10:21.040 That is so interesting.

02:10:22.160 You asked me that question, brother.

02:10:23.880 That, that is so interesting.

02:10:25.380 You, you know how much I've been praying lately.

02:10:28.720 Uh, dude, that makes me emotional.

02:10:31.440 Like, honestly, uh, just because like, I'm like, I basically go through a ritual before

02:10:39.120 I do an interview almost.

02:10:40.600 It's, it's not any, uh, cult in nature at all, but it's just, you know, it's kind of

02:10:44.960 like this strange, uh, it's like, I just, it's a small animal that I sacrifice.

02:10:49.100 I have an hour before I'm about to have the interview.

02:10:53.640 I take a shower and I just like, I try like a therapeutic shower, you know, and I pray

02:11:00.700 in the shower every time.

02:11:02.560 Oh, you pray in the shower too?

02:11:03.780 I pray in the shower every time.

02:11:05.240 Nice base.

02:11:06.140 Me too.

02:11:06.580 See that top.

02:11:07.200 You need to be naked praying in the shower.

02:11:09.220 In the bath showers are gay.

02:11:11.500 Oh, that's right.

02:11:12.240 Yeah.

02:11:13.700 Pray in the bath.

02:11:15.020 But I, I straight up.

02:11:16.980 And this has sort of been my internal mantra from day one.

02:11:20.620 Um, I pray for my heart to be in the right place.

02:11:24.420 My intentions to be pure, my mind to work efficient and effective.

02:11:28.880 And then I, I've been recently, I mean, I'm talking the past two weeks, so it's not like

02:11:35.300 anything that's been constant or for quite a long time, but it's definitely, it's been

02:11:40.680 recent, maybe more than that.

02:11:42.500 But I pray that let me have fun.

02:11:47.020 Let me have a good time.

02:11:48.080 Let me have a fun conversation and just kind of like, enjoy this.

02:11:52.520 Right.

02:11:53.420 And, uh, yeah, sometimes it's ruined it.

02:11:57.200 Sorry.

02:11:57.700 I did.

02:11:58.680 No, no, no, no, not at all, buddy.

02:12:01.040 Not at all.

02:12:02.260 But yeah, I just, it is, it's, it's something that I think, uh, I put too much pressure on

02:12:06.900 myself.

02:12:07.680 You know, I want to, I think I get, I expect a lot.

02:12:12.840 And, and when, when I know I had a better way to describe something or I had an easier

02:12:17.780 way to kind of like connect these patterns and that was, would be much more sort of like,

02:12:23.320 um, you know, just, um, palatable for the, for the audience.

02:12:27.600 You know, it's like, I get very frustrated and then I beat myself to death internally

02:12:31.380 for a while.

02:12:32.080 And that doesn't help.

02:12:33.300 I don't think you have to do that anymore though, Austin, you've, you've arrived.

02:12:36.140 I can understand.

02:12:36.940 I think you need to, you need to internalize that is that there's a show that you were

02:12:42.860 trying to get to write a big show where you were going to spread this information that

02:12:46.940 you found important, right?

02:12:48.240 You wanted people to hear what you had to say because you think that you locked onto something.

02:12:51.600 That's the truth.

02:12:52.580 And that's important.

02:12:54.000 And I know the pressure of wanting to present that shit the right way, because you've got

02:13:00.100 this shot or this opportunity, you're going to be with Sam Tripoli or something like that.

02:13:03.920 And you want to get this out to the masses, but you're now here to stay.

02:13:07.940 And I think you can sigh a breath of relief and then start having some fun because whatever

02:13:13.760 you don't get out in this episode, let's say you're going to get out in the next episode

02:13:18.760 or the one after that, because we're going to have you back again.

02:13:20.640 And again, we're going to share the stage with you.

02:13:22.220 You're going to be our homie.

02:13:23.480 Sam Tripoli is going to do the same thing.

02:13:25.020 You've got a slot.

02:13:26.440 You're a brand.

02:13:27.080 You don't have to fight for the slot anymore.

02:13:28.920 Yeah.

02:13:29.120 Treat yourself like a brand.

02:13:31.320 That's why, like before the show, I was talking about like different angles and stuff like

02:13:35.180 that for the just little things like that.

02:13:36.760 But you're a brand, your style of speaking, people like it, your information that you're

02:13:41.140 bringing people like that.

02:13:42.240 So that's your brand.

02:13:43.680 Don't sweat if it's, if it all, if it, if all of it doesn't come out at the same time,

02:13:48.040 because there's so much that we could say at any given moment, but you're never going

02:13:51.180 to check all those boxes, man.

02:13:53.520 But focus on the brand of what you are, drill down deep into that and keep doing the shit

02:13:59.640 you did here, man.

02:14:00.540 And that's why you don't have to keep fighting for that slot, man.

02:14:02.780 You're already.

02:14:03.080 That's why David graciously gave a half an hour more than, more than he was willing to.

02:14:06.840 Yeah.

02:14:07.020 Cause I like you.

02:14:07.760 If it was anybody else, I would have been like, no, dude, by the way, I've just been

02:14:11.940 bailing on things.

02:14:12.820 Not, not, not like I, I don't hang around for after shows, the conversations anymore.

02:14:17.180 I just have to like, go.

02:14:18.640 It's just so much.

02:14:20.360 I don't know what it is.

02:14:21.120 We should end.

02:14:21.820 We should end.

02:14:22.300 We got to end.

02:14:22.840 Cause we have to talk to Matthew Lane after this.

02:14:24.820 Yeah.

02:14:25.520 And he's going to, he's going to tell us some incriminating shit about primary waters.

02:14:28.920 That's going to get our door kicked in by the fucking.

02:14:31.280 It's going to be great.

02:14:32.500 I'm really looking forward to going to prison.

02:14:35.680 Awesome.

02:14:36.760 Wonderful conversation, brother.

02:14:38.140 Um, where can everybody find your work?

02:14:41.320 Who's undoubtedly going to look for it after this?

02:14:44.280 Thank you, man.

02:14:44.800 And, uh, I love you guys.

02:14:46.300 Honestly, I do.

02:14:47.120 And, uh, and you guys, uh, everybody can find me at the underclass podcast.

02:14:52.180 Definitely, uh, the patron best place to support me, patreon.com slash the underclass podcast.

02:14:57.560 And, um, yeah, man, beyond that, check out the recent interview I did with William Ramsey

02:15:02.920 on the Atlanta child murders.

02:15:04.260 I felt like that was, was, uh, um, we had a pretty good conversation, man, dude.

02:15:09.720 Yeah.

02:15:09.900 William's great.

02:15:11.380 Um, and then, yeah, uh, definitely check out whatever this is.

02:15:15.280 It's, it's been so much fun, dude.

02:15:16.820 Sam, Sam and Brad are the best.

02:15:18.580 I love that.

02:15:19.180 That's so cool.

02:15:19.840 And Austin one more.

02:15:21.620 Yeah, dude, you're right.

02:15:23.000 I I'm terrible at plugging already.

02:15:24.900 I really fucking am, dude.

02:15:27.040 Bring it in for a fucking landing.

02:15:28.660 Austin.

02:15:29.360 All right.

02:15:29.820 Austin.

02:15:30.600 No, no.

02:15:31.160 I thought he wasn't going to.

02:15:32.340 I was like, don't, don't not.

02:15:33.320 Because I, yeah, you got to plug, uh, it's called whatever this is, whatever this, how

02:15:38.440 many shows is Sam Tripoli going to do?

02:15:40.460 Good God.

02:15:41.060 I mean, I'm glad that you get to be a part of what, what is that guy going to stop doing?

02:15:45.280 Jeez.

02:15:46.140 It's a lot.

02:15:46.620 It is crazy.

02:15:47.500 He, I don't know what exactly, you know, he's just, um, I think it's, I don't hands

02:15:52.460 or the devil's workshop type of thing.

02:15:54.280 And he'll be beaten off furious.

02:15:56.220 Yeah.

02:15:56.480 He'll furiously beat his dick to death.

02:16:01.100 100%, dude.

02:16:01.880 I love it.

02:16:02.560 I love it.

02:16:03.300 Already dead every Tuesday, 930 Eastern time.

02:16:05.680 Appreciate you guys.

02:16:07.040 Of course, brother.

02:16:07.820 Of course.

02:16:08.160 All right, guys.

02:16:08.640 Until the next 30 minutes, when we're back, don't forget to obey, submit, and comply.

02:16:12.700 Goodbye.

02:16:12.940 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

02:16:19.220 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

02:16:23.380 You can persuade us that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.

02:16:29.320 You know.

02:16:30.560 Because they'll be in the face of an expedition that portrays the bigger picture of what's

02:16:36.340 in the world.

02:16:37.420 And they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - July 24, 2025

189： Blackmail, Bloodlines, and the Abyss w⧸ Austin Picard ｜ Nephilim Death Squad

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