Nephilim Death Squad - 191： MKUltra, Crowley & Sabrina Carpenter’s Occult Rise w⧸ Izzy N Griffin

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00:01:00.460 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:01:09.620 Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:01:13.620 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:22.540 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely enormous.

00:01:28.840 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:01:30.040 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:01:31.240 It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.

00:01:36.720 These motherfuckers, they controlling us now.

00:01:38.700 I know we're talking about how they made a spot of these slaves.

00:01:41.820 And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds.

00:01:44.580 I want to wake up to a dead in the grave.

00:01:47.040 By the end it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up.

00:01:49.840 Welcome to the end of day.

00:01:51.500 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:02:02.740 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

00:02:05.520 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

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00:02:25.400 Go ahead, David.

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00:02:46.280 Joining us today is Izzy Griffin.

00:02:49.960 Izzy, before we get into today's show, let everybody know where they can find your work and what it is you do.

00:02:56.720 Yeah.

00:02:57.140 So, most of my—

00:02:58.580 If you want the real shit, you got to go to my Patreon, patreon.com slash Izzy and Griffin.

00:03:05.680 I do have samples on YouTube and X, I guess, Twitter.

00:03:10.700 And I post a ton on Instagram.

00:03:12.700 I'm pretty popping on Instagram.

00:03:14.640 But I do these, like, full breakdowns, fully sourced.

00:03:20.020 I research my ass off every single day for everybody.

00:03:24.500 And I just basically try to find the esoteric and occult underpinnings of what's going on within pop culture.

00:03:32.420 I focus mostly on the music industry.

00:03:35.880 I am a musician.

00:03:37.200 I started doing music again about a year ago.

00:03:41.100 So, yeah, I'm just fully in it.

00:03:43.480 And I'm just bringing the deepest truths I can possibly bring.

00:03:49.440 And I go so deep.

00:03:51.240 I go super deep.

00:03:52.660 What's your handle on Instagram?

00:03:54.720 Because you're crushing on Instagram.

00:03:56.280 I was checking you out the other day, and I was like, damn, dude, this dude is—he's doing work.

00:04:00.160 Yeah.

00:04:00.400 Thanks, man.

00:04:00.860 It's the same thing.

00:04:01.780 At Izzy and Griffin on Instagram.

00:04:04.600 Yeah.

00:04:04.840 And I have stuff on YouTube.

00:04:06.200 But, like I said, Patreon is where you get, like, the real—the jouissance, as I call it.

00:04:11.800 I've never heard that word in my life, dog.

00:04:13.440 I don't know what that is, but I like it.

00:04:14.600 Yeah.

00:04:14.920 Damn, bro.

00:04:15.100 I don't know what it means either.

00:04:16.000 I just heard someone say it once I started saying it.

00:04:20.080 So, check this out, Izzy.

00:04:21.520 We were, you know, big fans of—currently big fans of Tinfoil Hat.

00:04:26.880 And we heard your—

00:04:27.600 It's like we were, but not anymore.

00:04:28.220 We were.

00:04:28.540 Not anymore.

00:04:28.920 We're now dissonant—no, no, no.

00:04:29.920 It's not true.

00:04:31.120 And we heard your Sabrina Carpenter episode, which I thought was fantastic.

00:04:35.200 And I said, we have to get this guy on the show, derail him constantly, because we have all kinds of questions about this.

00:04:41.580 And I know, just based off of looking at your content, you kind of go everywhere.

00:04:46.600 You have something to say about everything, and it's something fascinating to say.

00:04:50.020 So, I kind of want to start with this Sabrina Carpenter thing.

00:04:53.420 We beat to death on this show the topic of Crowley and Jack Parsons and, you know, what they were doing in the desert, him and L. Ron Hubbard jerking each other off, doing the—you know.

00:05:03.620 So, I would love to talk about that, because when I heard you mention how Sabrina Carpenter plugs into all this, I thought, damn, dude, I didn't see that.

00:05:13.840 It's just nice.

00:05:14.620 It's refreshing when somebody has a take that is fascinating.

00:05:17.760 It's backed by information, and it's something you haven't heard yet.

00:05:20.120 It's also something where it's like, you know, I'm buying all this Sabrina Carpenter merch.

00:05:24.500 It's all over my house, and I know—like, you see her everywhere, and it's just one of those things where you're like, it's another kind of, like, teeny bopper, you know, like, pop star that's not really doing anything special, but she's everywhere.

00:05:39.660 And I want to know why, because I'm also a musician.

00:05:42.700 So, like, when I listen to, like, especially popular music, I'm constantly saying, what's so good about this shit?

00:05:49.940 And most of the time, it's nothing.

00:05:52.100 It's, you know, they're going to give you the money chords, and you're going to get the same formula over and over again, but they choose their people.

00:05:58.780 Yeah.

00:05:59.020 So, okay.

00:05:59.840 So, this is going to be great for you guys.

00:06:01.780 So, I can answer your question as to why the pop music that is out now is out.

00:06:08.680 I'm going to get—we'll get there.

00:06:10.540 I have, like, a whole thing I've just recently done on that, and it's really fucking fascinating, like, literally mind-blowing.

00:06:18.380 But, yeah, we could talk about the Sabrina Carpenter stuff first, too.

00:06:20.680 So, like, basically with Sabrina Carpenter, I did a bunch of research on it, and it's really insane.

00:06:28.660 It ties into Jack Parsons.

00:06:31.220 Her parents are—well, it's hard to say.

00:06:35.420 She has family members that are Scientologists.

00:06:38.580 Nancy Cartwright is her aunt, who is the voice of Bart Simpson.

00:06:42.540 And there were all these articles written about how Sabrina Carpenter is going to be essentially the next Tom Cruise of Scientology.

00:06:52.460 She's came out and said that she's not a Scientologist.

00:06:55.640 I personally don't buy that.

00:06:59.280 I don't really know.

00:07:01.340 But, yeah, there's a lot of really strange connections going back to a lot of shit with that.

00:07:08.280 Let me kind of look at my notes with that as far as Sabrina Carpenter.

00:07:12.440 What do you guys want to get started with on that in particular?

00:07:16.140 I mean, we had this older theory that was very loose.

00:07:19.880 It was, I mean, a super, super loose conspiracy when we were doing the deep dive into Andreeja Puharic.

00:07:25.620 Right.

00:07:26.260 And we did some research about, like—so this guy was developing—it's like a voice-to-skull technology stuff through dental implants,

00:07:34.740 which is where you get the term tinfoil hat from, like people were wrapping their heads in tinfoil in order to block the radio waves.

00:07:41.500 And L. Ron Hubbard, before he developed Scientology, had a life-changing event in the dentist.

00:07:50.060 And I'm like, huh, that's really interesting.

00:07:52.060 Was it a near-death experience, right?

00:07:53.660 It's like a near-death experience, but then afterward he started—that's when he started to get these communications and then create the religion of Scientology.

00:08:00.860 So I'm like, very suspicious.

00:08:03.120 I don't know exactly where to put that, but all the rest of Scientology, as it follows, is very strange in the people around it.

00:08:09.700 So it's just another one that I'm putting in the bucket for later to look at and say, hmm, a lot of shit in that bucket.

00:08:15.320 Yeah, for the longest time, I kind of looked at Scientology as just like another—it's not another run-of-the-mill cult, right,

00:08:21.920 because of the amount of influence that they have in Hollywood, but it didn't strike me as massively significant until you start looking at L. Ron Hubbard in particular, right?

00:08:31.560 Because a long time ago, I was watching Joe Rogan, and he kind of—he almost made me look away from Scientology.

00:08:39.260 And the reason that he—the way that he did that was by saying that L. Ron Hubbard was one of the most prolific science fiction writers out there,

00:08:46.060 and that so much of his work, you know, wasn't a banger at all.

00:08:50.280 It just kind of flew under the radar, but he still wrote a shit ton of science fiction books.

00:08:54.340 And then all of a sudden, he ends up becoming a cult leader.

00:08:57.480 So, you know, it sort of looks like a guy who's just trying to be successful in a bunch of different avenues,

00:09:03.660 and then that goes to bed because he can't get a book, you know, that's going to be a big book for the life of him.

00:09:08.860 And then he ends up creating a cult.

00:09:10.500 So it almost looks like a guy who's just—but then all of a sudden, you find out that he's tied into all of these various situations,

00:09:17.480 including the whole Jack Parsons thing, and you go, maybe this is a little bit more nefarious.

00:09:23.080 Maybe that's the question, Izzy.

00:09:24.420 It's like, what do you think Scientology is?

00:09:27.760 Because I don't think it's just a, you know, kind of a run-of-the-mill cult.

00:09:32.640 I think—so here's what I think.

00:09:35.020 Like, Hollywood, in particular in the entertainment industry, has various factions that are running things behind the scenes,

00:09:43.220 and each one is vying for their own position, right?

00:09:46.860 And what I think Scientology is, is I think Scientology works hand-in-hand with Alistair Crowley's religion, Thelema.

00:09:56.200 And, yeah, that's basically what I think Scientology is.

00:10:00.180 It's just another faction, right?

00:10:01.940 And so, like, where Sabrina Carpenter comes in is they essentially think that she is the embodiment of a deity named Babylon from Alistair Crowley's Thelemic religion.

00:10:17.280 So Alistair Crowley actually created his own mythos and his own pantheon mythology related to his religion, and the rituals that they would do—so in 1946, Parsons, in addition to L. Ron Hubbard, did these Babylon-working rituals, right?

00:10:41.320 And they actually—I have a ton of stuff that links them actually thinking Sabrina Carpenter is the embodiment of Babylon,

00:10:49.920 and Babylon is essentially Thelema's and Crowley's idea of the divine feminine.

00:10:55.860 So that's kind of what I think that is.

00:11:00.720 And the thing is, is people don't know that Parsons used to, like, live in the OTO and in one of Crowley's, like, secret societies.

00:11:12.760 He was, like, the head of it, and he, like, lived with him in, like, a live-in cult.

00:11:16.980 So that was a thing, too, yeah.

00:11:21.180 Can I just say, Izzy, that it seems like right now we're, like, in the middle of this massive divine feminine push.

00:11:28.240 So, like, a lot of the—back in the day, it would be, like, the symbolism you would see if you were doing, like, a deep dive on, like, a music video or something like that.

00:11:34.540 It would be, like, all-seeing eyes and kind of the Baphomet, right?

00:11:38.540 You would see goat heads and this and that.

00:11:40.180 And then lately, what I've been seeing instead is this thing that I don't know, it's, like, I'm colloquially calling it, like, the spirit of Lilith, right?

00:11:48.440 And I think that's just because, like, a lack of a better term or maybe not enough information to really define what it is.

00:11:52.560 Some people are saying, Sophia, I'm having a hard time separating those two things.

00:11:56.060 But it's, like, this inverted triangle, right?

00:11:58.160 So it's, like—

00:11:59.580 You can't do that now.

00:12:00.320 You can't do that.

00:12:01.080 Yeah, I'm not allowed to do the inverted triangle on my show anymore because the Freemasons pay me.

00:12:05.320 Right.

00:12:05.680 So, but it seems like, like, for example, the Super Bowl that we just had, right?

00:12:11.760 So I was getting obsessed with the Orphic egg, and Caesar's Superdome looks like an egg from, you know, an aerial view.

00:12:19.960 So I thought maybe something significant was going to happen at the Super Bowl.

00:12:23.120 And you had Donald Trump being the first sitting president at a Super Bowl ever.

00:12:26.900 So I was like, this is it, dude.

00:12:28.120 Something's going to happen.

00:12:29.000 And then he's ushering in the golden age, right?

00:12:32.300 That's the language that he's using for his campaign.

00:12:34.420 It just so happens, like, the first, you know, emperor of Rome or whatever ushered in what they considered a golden age, I guess, if it was intellectually and financially, they considered it a golden age.

00:12:44.460 So I'm looking at all these alignments, and I'm like, something's going to happen.

00:12:48.160 And then they do their Freemasonic ritual or whatever the hell they do.

00:12:52.100 And it seems to be almost unimpressive.

00:12:55.440 It seems to be focused on this, like, divine feminine angle.

00:12:57.860 So you have, like, eventually, what's the lady's name that played?

00:13:02.140 I don't know.

00:13:02.800 It's like a female artist, black lady.

00:13:05.060 She performed at the Super Bowl adjacent to Kendrick Lamar.

00:13:10.080 Rihanna?

00:13:11.220 No, I don't think it was Rihanna.

00:13:12.320 I forgot what the hell.

00:13:13.300 It was the one that we just had, like, a year ago.

00:13:15.400 It's something.

00:13:16.180 It's like S-Z-N-N.

00:13:17.680 Oh, SZA.

00:13:19.760 SZA, yeah.

00:13:20.920 Is that a thing?

00:13:21.760 Okay, so SZA.

00:13:22.460 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:23.860 SZA comes out, and she's in an inverted triangle.

00:13:29.100 That's her stage is an inverted triangle.

00:13:31.620 And so the whole thing looks like it's this, you know, ritual that has something to do with the divine feminine.

00:13:37.420 And then the Super Bowl commercial that plays is a female football player, and she's got the number seven on, which, you know, 77 or some shit like that,

00:13:49.460 has something to do with—I'm, you know, retarded, so maybe I'm wrong.

00:13:53.360 But it seems like it has something to do with this divine feminine.

00:13:56.620 She's number 77, and she's plowing through all these dudes.

00:13:59.840 She's juking them.

00:14:00.680 They're falling.

00:14:01.360 And I'm just seeing all these elements, and I'm wondering, like, is it a coincidence, given your information,

00:14:08.560 potentially Sabrina Carpenter being the embodiment of the divine feminine Babylon,

00:14:11.800 and then you look around, and culturally, it seems like we're being saturated in it.

00:14:15.580 Strong female leads left and right constantly.

00:14:18.360 What do you think?

00:14:19.460 Yeah, so, okay, so that ties into—basically Crowley wrote about this thing,

00:14:26.340 the Aeon of Horus is essentially what he believed we were moving into,

00:14:31.020 and it ties into the Age of Aquarius, right?

00:14:34.060 The Aquarius is, you know, it's the person pouring out water.

00:14:38.280 Sometimes it's depicted as a man.

00:14:39.700 Sometimes it's depicted as a woman.

00:14:42.800 So what this sort of ties into, as far as a divine feminine, you're right.

00:14:48.800 Like the—an example is like the Katy Perry space launch, how they're all women and they're all going into space.

00:14:57.540 Well, Crowley's idea of the divine feminine, he has several different deities that he sort of, you know, describes and that he's created,

00:15:08.920 and one of them is represented by space itself.

00:15:12.660 So space, right, is a representation of the divine feminine because it's that which receives.

00:15:21.420 So the rocket literally going into space would represent the masculine going into this empty void, this vastness,

00:15:31.880 and it's being received by space, which would be represented by the divine feminine.

00:15:36.800 That's why everybody in that shuttle was a woman, right?

00:15:39.640 And that's why they had the logos and the patches.

00:15:41.740 They weren't really a Baphomet thing.

00:15:43.840 It's more in line with kind of—it's a Thelemic thing, right?

00:15:48.120 Like literally.

00:15:48.980 Like all of Hollywood is this big Thelemic thing.

00:15:51.540 In so far as one of the logos and the slogans of Thelema was everyone is a star.

00:16:02.000 Every man and every woman is a star.

00:16:03.980 That's what we call celebrity stars.

00:16:07.000 And so part of the divine masculine to Crowley would then be like that of a star or something like that.

00:16:13.500 There's a bunch of stuff on it.

00:16:15.120 It's like it's really interesting.

00:16:16.420 So much so like have you noticed this push in the music industry too?

00:16:20.440 You remember we had like wet-ass pussy and like all those like—

00:16:24.260 Oh, of course.

00:16:24.520 Who could forget wet-ass pussy?

00:16:26.180 Right?

00:16:26.420 So think of it as like Nicki Minaj.

00:16:29.580 We had WAP, Meg Thee Stallion, all of these people.

00:16:32.320 They were really degrading women, right?

00:16:37.320 It was a degradation of women.

00:16:39.600 So I write about this, right?

00:16:42.260 And I'm talking about how we're moving into this new age, this aeon of Horus and this new age.

00:16:49.820 I call it the meta-aeon of Lucifer, right?

00:16:52.640 Because essentially this age of Aquarius, Aquarius is an air sign.

00:16:58.840 Lucifer is the god of the airways, right?

00:17:01.400 But what we see is we see this degradation now being shifted into a woman empowerment like you're describing, right?

00:17:07.700 If you think of artists like—and I'm not sure if you know who they are because you didn't know who SZA was.

00:17:11.800 But like Doce is like the forefront of like the woman's music, right?

00:17:18.920 And it's all about female empowerment, woman empowerment.

00:17:22.640 We have like Billie Eilish.

00:17:24.060 We have Lorde.

00:17:24.940 We have all these things that are—it's a flip from the degradation of libidical energy into the glorification and the pride of women.

00:17:35.520 Women pride.

00:17:36.600 Women—the empowered feminine, right?

00:17:38.880 That's why it was so powerful when Katy Perry and all those broads went to space, right?

00:17:43.280 But here's the thing.

00:17:45.040 As we're moving into this age of Lucifer, as I'm calling it, it's what caused Lucifer to fall?

00:17:53.360 Pride.

00:17:54.100 His pride, right?

00:17:55.240 So what we're going to be seeing specifically in the music industry, which music you could say is carried through the air, right?

00:18:03.780 It's empowerment.

00:18:05.460 It's going to be women pride.

00:18:06.680 That's what you're going to be seeing a lot of, to answer that question.

00:18:10.440 That's fascinating because I don't know if you've seen this trend.

00:18:13.940 There's a lot of feminist movements, especially in Europe.

00:18:17.360 And when they get out and they mobilize, the way that they, I guess, stand in defiance against the patriarchy or unfair is by whipping their tits out.

00:18:28.420 Like every single time.

00:18:29.760 And over-sexualization.

00:18:30.800 Yeah, and I go, that's an interesting, and I know that there's this idea that in the 60s or 70s, one of the early feminism movements was named Lilith after, you know, the Lilith.

00:18:42.400 And I guess, well, I think it was the, one of the first feminist magazines.

00:18:47.260 Oh, really?

00:18:48.440 Yeah, they named it Lilith.

00:18:49.520 It's like, it's always right on the nose.

00:18:51.200 Like, they always know the esoteric nature of what they're doing.

00:18:54.280 And then we're supposed to, I don't know, I suppose we're supposed to act like they're not pointing at this stuff consistently and just continue to follow whatever the mainstream narrative is.

00:19:04.640 It's nonsense.

00:19:05.220 You know, it's interesting you're talking about Lilith, right?

00:19:08.740 So, Lilith is a part of, it ties really into, like, what I have prepped for you guys because I have some fire just for you guys.

00:19:18.940 How'd you know?

00:19:19.540 I didn't know we were both on prep.

00:19:21.300 Yeah.

00:19:23.440 Ah, shit.

00:19:24.180 Is this what this is right now?

00:19:25.800 That's what this is.

00:19:26.680 Okay.

00:19:27.160 You're welcome to Netflix.

00:19:28.100 This is an intervention.

00:19:30.820 Right.

00:19:31.320 That's funny, man.

00:19:31.960 Um, so, so you guys are familiar with Kabbalah, right?

00:19:37.060 Or no?

00:19:37.900 Okay.

00:19:38.160 So you guys, you guys know about the tree of life.

00:19:41.200 You know what it looks like?

00:19:42.660 So, so the, the Kabbalistic tree of life, one of, so, so each of those circles, right?

00:19:48.380 So to anyone listening right now, if you want to, you could pull this up in a tab and just look up Kabbalah tree of life.

00:19:53.580 Um, each of those circles is called a Sephirot or a Sephirot.

00:19:58.160 Yeah.

00:19:58.340 Right.

00:19:58.820 And each one of those represents an emanation of light from God.

00:20:04.000 Right.

00:20:05.080 That's what they're supposed to represent.

00:20:06.580 And as you go down the tree of life, you go down the tree of life due to desire.

00:20:12.020 Each of these desires brings you, you further and further away.

00:20:15.600 Right.

00:20:16.120 Oh shit.

00:20:16.980 You guys have it.

00:20:18.100 That's so sick.

00:20:19.380 Um, yeah.

00:20:20.140 So as you can see, each one of those pathways is also represented by a tarot card, um, as well.

00:20:26.260 And this ties in perfectly into, uh, what we're going to talk about and to answer your question as to why music kind of sucks now.

00:20:32.640 Um, so as we're, we're going down, there's actually the esoteric principle, you know, the as above, so below.

00:20:41.900 You've heard that before.

00:20:43.340 Yeah.

00:20:43.620 Yeah.

00:20:44.260 There's also to kind of mean like, um, you know, it's an obvious observable fact about the realm that we inhabit and, and quantum science has, has kind of dictated like, oh, there's a fractal nature to reality.

00:20:55.820 So even, even science, like as deep as you go, it emulates, you know, the, the, the micro emulates the macro.

00:21:01.680 So in some ways.

00:21:02.420 It's everywhere, dude.

00:21:03.080 Like even we're actually doing a documentary about, uh, primary waters, like deep, deep underground waters.

00:21:09.400 Um, and it's just like, you know, the Bible mentions the waters above and the waters below.

00:21:14.060 And I always thought that that meant it could mean like outer space in that, whatever etheric liquid is out there.

00:21:19.540 But I just think they're talking about like, dude, water's above and there's literally waters below.

00:21:23.840 So it's just like, you know, that's the bath.

00:21:25.480 I saw your video about the Baphomet thing today.

00:21:27.860 It was pretty hilarious.

00:21:28.580 Oh, dude, that was very funny, by the way.

00:21:29.860 That video crushes.

00:21:31.200 Yeah.

00:21:31.420 Yeah.

00:21:31.760 Thanks.

00:21:32.240 Yeah.

00:21:32.480 But so like with the Kabbalah, there's also the tree, the tree of death.

00:21:37.260 So the, as above, so below everything is in it.

00:21:39.800 Everything is the micro to the macro, but everything is also an inversion.

00:21:42.940 So there's also a tree of death, which is the opposite, right?

00:21:46.500 So it's, it's not the, it's not the, uh, emanations of light.

00:21:50.380 It's actually the emanations of desire.

00:21:52.700 And one of those Sephirots is labeled Lilith, right?

00:21:57.320 So essentially meaning that there is an actual archetypal thing happening within reality right

00:22:05.940 now.

00:22:06.500 That is exactly what you guys are talking about and wondering.

00:22:10.680 It's literally like a, a staple of that reality.

00:22:14.840 Cause you're talking about like, you were just mentioning how quantum, like reality is quantum

00:22:18.880 and it's fractal.

00:22:20.060 That's what the Kabbalah literally represented to these ancient mystics who were trying to

00:22:27.440 practice magic and we're practicing magic.

00:22:29.300 Right.

00:22:29.660 But that's essentially what it is.

00:22:31.720 Um, let me ask you this.

00:22:32.960 Is he, um, talking about the whole, uh, L Ron Hubbard situation and, and then Alistair

00:22:39.880 Crowley's dilemma, and you're saying that he sort of created these deities Babylon and,

00:22:46.060 and, you know, it's a pantheon of other ones.

00:22:48.640 He, he created a new pantheon.

00:22:49.980 Do you think that this is created in the sense of like original thought forms or, or tulpas

00:22:56.460 that didn't exist before?

00:22:57.660 And then he's, he's creating them and then they, they are existing in some way, shape

00:23:01.860 or form, or is this a rebranding of preexisting?

00:23:04.720 Cause it seems like these entities obscure their names throughout history, their identities

00:23:09.520 throughout history.

00:23:10.660 And, uh, and, you know, one thing will be Baal Hadad in, in, you know, Sumer or whatever,

00:23:16.240 and then it'll be Zeus in, in Greek mythology.

00:23:19.340 Um, is he really creating his own thing or is he just creating a new form of identities

00:23:24.480 for these preexisting entities to inhabit?

00:23:27.220 Yeah.

00:23:27.400 So one thing I talk about a lot, I just did a three part series on, uh, Rick Rubin and someone

00:23:32.700 I called the modern day Alistair Crowley.

00:23:34.640 Right.

00:23:34.860 And one thing I talk about in this, uh, the series is what makes an occultist famous is

00:23:42.500 their ability to rebrand occultic ideas for a contemporary modern audience.

00:23:49.820 Right.

00:23:50.120 So that is what it's, it's, it's always a recycling and a rehashing and a changing of the

00:23:56.240 language of these old things, these archetypal deities, these archetypal truths that they're

00:24:04.820 never changing, but they're constantly being recycled.

00:24:07.180 But the, the thing that we have going on now that changes that actually is we have the internet

00:24:16.160 now, which they didn't have a hundred years ago.

00:24:19.100 Right.

00:24:19.320 So when Crowley was operating in the early 1900s and he was utilizing print and he was

00:24:24.720 talking about this pantheon and creating this literal religion, um, what we have now is we

00:24:31.520 have the internet, which is actually its own literal matrix, its own literal reality.

00:24:39.080 And what we're having happen is this new aeon, this new age we're living in this age of Aquarius,

00:24:47.140 what I'm calling the Medean of Lucifer, this matrix is now reflecting itself back into reality.

00:24:54.660 And what's happening is these archetypal truths are now, you know, reality used to mimic,

00:25:02.720 it used to directly mimic the Kabbalah, right?

00:25:05.300 So like you have these archetypes like the fool or, um, you know, the, the magician, you have

00:25:11.080 these things that are these, these truths that mirror themselves in storytelling and fiction

00:25:16.660 and in reality, right?

00:25:17.960 People, people mirror these archetypes in life, but now what we're having is we're actually

00:25:22.900 having an inversion of that.

00:25:24.480 And reality is now mimicking the matrix and we actually are having the tree of death emanating

00:25:31.080 in real life.

00:25:32.860 Right.

00:25:33.420 So that's very heavy.

00:25:34.840 I, I, can you elaborate on that a little bit?

00:25:36.700 Because that, that, uh, there's a lot of, um, concepts that escape.

00:25:40.080 I'm a simple man.

00:25:41.040 Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:42.240 So this is what I have.

00:25:43.320 This is what I kind of brought for you guys.

00:25:44.640 Um, so the, the tree of life, right?

00:25:48.840 The Kabbalistic tree of life is, is a way you can view reality to sort of understand it,

00:25:53.760 right?

00:25:53.960 You have these, these archetypes that exist, right?

00:25:57.220 So for example, the fool's journey, the fool's journey is this, you know, this old archetypal

00:26:05.080 story that the foolish person could eventually turn into a master, right?

00:26:11.280 The person who doesn't really know what their path is, if they find their path, suddenly they

00:26:16.660 can become a master of their own reality, right?

00:26:19.700 Like that's, that's mirrored in, in tarot.

00:26:22.860 That's mirrored in the Kabbalah, like you guys just showed.

00:26:25.940 So this fool, right?

00:26:27.660 This fool, it exists in reality.

00:26:31.120 It is an archetypal structure that exists.

00:26:33.720 But now what we're having is we have the internet, which is the, the inversion of reality.

00:26:40.560 And it's now we don't have the fool.

00:26:43.920 We have a bastardized version of the fool because the internet is morphing and it's

00:26:50.060 diseasing these archetypes that we actually have, right?

00:26:53.380 So if we look at these sort of fractals of like God that exist as these archetypes, they

00:27:01.600 become diseased and they become sickened through the internet and they become cheapened.

00:27:06.840 And then those things start to become what we see in reality.

00:27:11.780 That's what we see in real life because people are now, they're not embodying the truths they

00:27:17.840 see in reality.

00:27:19.020 They're embodying the fake truths that they see on the internet, right?

00:27:23.220 Oh, that's interesting.

00:27:24.780 So it's actually really heavy.

00:27:26.400 It is.

00:27:26.880 And it's something that I've been talking about where, um, not only do you get algorithmically

00:27:31.980 siloed into different, let's say like political ideologies or anything like that, but we seem

00:27:37.680 to have built within our nature, this desire to emulate what we see.

00:27:41.200 For example, when I was a kid, I went through a really upsetting phase where I would not stop

00:27:46.760 emulating Jack Sparrow, uh, in my movements.

00:27:49.500 It's very embarrassing.

00:27:50.640 It's very embarrassing.

00:27:51.880 If he's fucking sick, dude, if he's intolerable now.

00:27:56.740 It was the worst.

00:27:57.700 I don't even know what I was doing.

00:27:58.940 I was, you know, constantly moving my hair.

00:28:00.860 But, um, uh, if that is the case, then what you're then getting is all of these new archetypes,

00:28:08.380 uh, from the internet.

00:28:09.360 And not only are you getting new ones, but you're getting them in mass and they're, and

00:28:13.580 we're cycling through them super rapidly.

00:28:15.700 So, uh, you know, my son, for example, uh, if I let him watch like some gamer or whatever,

00:28:23.160 some of them aren't on YouTube.

00:28:24.600 They have, cause I don't let my kid watch YouTube, but he's got like other, uh, some

00:28:28.660 of them get channels on Hulu.

00:28:30.200 And if I let him watch that, you'll, you'll very quickly hear him emulating, you know,

00:28:34.820 their style.

00:28:35.480 And then what are they emulating is the question.

00:28:37.800 Right.

00:28:38.000 Right.

00:28:38.240 And so what he ends up emulating is a watered down version because his father is a 35 year

00:28:44.520 old man who is plugged into the internet for his occupation.

00:28:47.500 He is emulating a watered down version of meme culture.

00:28:51.000 And that's really strange.

00:28:52.420 Cause I know, you know, when we talk about like memetic warfare or meme culture in general,

00:28:57.220 it's like, it's like high level spellcasting.

00:28:59.660 Look at what, I mean, we, we've done a lot of work or at least a lot of thought on what the

00:29:03.780 fool is.

00:29:04.660 And, uh, I think Owen Benjamin told us that like, we play the role of the Holy fool.

00:29:09.160 Oh yeah.

00:29:09.720 Yeah.

00:29:09.860 Which is like, that's like a more Russian archetype, but the role of the fool would be similar

00:29:14.460 to the role of the jester.

00:29:15.580 And he's the guy that speaks truth to the King.

00:29:17.820 And we talk a lot about that role being completely abdicated by most comedians.

00:29:22.180 I mean, Sam Tripoli, Owen Benjamin, there's like a, maybe a handful of other ones that are

00:29:28.260 actually telling the truth, like it's telling a very hard truth and they're paying a cost

00:29:32.900 for it, whether it be shadow banning or, you know, just taking off of, uh, their payment

00:29:37.060 processors in general.

00:29:38.560 Um, but then you think about why they've been removed and now what the fool is representing,

00:29:47.000 the fool's representing this, like a conglomerate of whatever Netflix has asked for and what

00:29:52.000 is Netflix asking for and why are they asking for it?

00:29:55.060 And then that becomes like meme that now that's meme culture.

00:29:58.080 Now you have like Matt Reif out there and you have a million people that are emulating

00:30:02.100 him.

00:30:02.460 Yeah.

00:30:02.960 And as Izzy is saying, it gets so watered down that it's like, well, what the, what

00:30:08.800 is this?

00:30:09.420 The way that I understand the fool is sort of, if there's like a, uh, uh, a reductive

00:30:15.300 way of understanding it, it's like, you know, is he saying he becomes the master or maybe

00:30:20.300 you could say that interchangeably with like the hero, but it's like the fool in so many

00:30:25.560 ways is almost too foolish to realize that his endeavor is monumental.

00:30:31.560 And so it's like, if he was any smarter, he would be afraid.

00:30:35.720 And so in that way, it's kind of like, you know, you talk about the Holy fool.

00:30:38.740 If the Bible says fear not, then the fool has that mechanism.

00:30:42.580 He's too stupid to be afraid.

00:30:44.040 Yeah.

00:30:44.420 It's kind of the way that I look at it.

00:30:45.860 And that lack of fear, because if he sat there and measured out, if he knew what he was

00:30:49.340 setting out the door to achieve, he wouldn't do it.

00:30:51.800 Right.

00:30:52.100 And so that stupidity or that foolishness is what allows him to then achieve, you know,

00:30:56.540 being a master or something like that.

00:30:57.880 Yeah.

00:30:59.160 Yeah.

00:30:59.680 It's interesting.

00:31:00.300 You guys started talking about comedy because, uh, the next video series I'm doing is literally

00:31:05.280 on that.

00:31:06.040 And it's talking about how we're living in this age of inversion.

00:31:11.760 So the fool, as you're saying, like what Owen Benjamin said, he used to whisper truths to

00:31:17.740 the King, right?

00:31:18.340 Like there's this example I use of this, uh, there was this jester, uh, from France, I believe.

00:31:25.020 And he actually, he slapped the King and the King was like, Holy shit.

00:31:29.220 And they, they laughed it off.

00:31:30.360 Cause it was funny.

00:31:30.940 He's funny.

00:31:31.340 Right.

00:31:31.820 And it's the, the, the jester used to be this individual who could actually check the

00:31:37.080 King, right?

00:31:38.300 He could check him.

00:31:39.100 He could put him in his place and sort of do the bidding of the sort of collective

00:31:44.680 consciousness thought of that realm or kingdom.

00:31:48.060 Right.

00:31:48.520 But now what we have, uh, outside of a select few is we have the fool is now the fool King,

00:31:58.080 right?

00:31:58.300 The fool is now doing the bidding of the King of whoever it is that is on their show or

00:32:05.940 whatever.

00:32:06.320 Right.

00:32:06.680 So you have, they've become mouthpieces.

00:32:09.120 Whereas before they were the sort of, uh, bearers of truth in a, in a roundabout way that

00:32:15.920 looked a little bit different.

00:32:16.880 Right.

00:32:17.160 And so it's almost this sick and twisted inversion where there, there has been like the comedian

00:32:24.780 is now sort of looked at as this bastion of truth when really their role is to be silly

00:32:34.340 or whatever.

00:32:35.020 Right.

00:32:35.340 So it's, it's almost like, like, imagine, imagine if you went to like an alien planet and

00:32:41.640 you're, you're trying to understand their society and there's this small role of these

00:32:47.020 people who are supposed to not be taken seriously.

00:32:49.420 And they're the people who are now the mouthpiece of truth.

00:32:52.880 It would be, you'd be like, that's kind of weird.

00:32:54.440 That doesn't really make much sense.

00:32:55.660 Right.

00:32:55.880 But that's not what we have because what we have, the age we are in is the inversion

00:33:01.060 of all of the traditional archetypes that are, and that exist.

00:33:05.520 It also seems like the fool would have a, a, no real problem, um, abstaining from ego because

00:33:11.640 ego will get in the way of your analysis of, of many things.

00:33:14.440 It'll get in the way of the truth as it passes through you potentially as a filter, and then

00:33:18.660 you become a mouthpiece.

00:33:19.480 And, and as it passes through you, your ego screws it all up.

00:33:22.320 Right.

00:33:22.540 So the fool doesn't really have too much of an ego.

00:33:24.740 So in some ways it makes a lot of sense that the fool would kind of be akin to the jester

00:33:30.620 and the jester would be, you know, speaking the truth.

00:33:32.380 But I want to bring it back to this, um, conversation about Sabrina Carpenter.

00:33:37.620 Yeah.

00:33:37.740 I actually had a question.

00:33:38.820 So when you asked Izzy about, uh, the embodiment, Izzy said that it's just replicating things

00:33:43.800 that already exist.

00:33:44.520 It's always like a rebranding.

00:33:47.140 Um, in your opinion, Izzy though, somebody like Sabrina Carpenter, do you think that

00:33:52.080 this is a person that is, uh, found like, uh, does she have like certain characteristics

00:33:58.220 that they, they notice afterward or is this somebody that is literally created?

00:34:02.360 It's like, uh, yeah, in, in her case she's created.

00:34:06.120 So yeah, she's created in her case.

00:34:08.740 Um, and I don't think that these people are aware.

00:34:12.780 I don't think she's aware of what's going on behind the scenes.

00:34:16.400 And I, you know, obviously it's kind of crazy to say that she's, she's the embodiment of

00:34:21.140 Babylon or whatever it's, it's not so much whether she is or she isn't, there are people

00:34:25.840 who believe that she is and that have created this system around her to where that is the

00:34:32.140 reality that they live it.

00:34:33.300 Right.

00:34:33.480 So it's like, um, like, like for example, um, in her early music videos, her, her first,

00:34:41.260 uh, album was titled eyes wide open.

00:34:44.980 And the first like four music videos she did, uh, it's like, she's mimicking being MK ultra.

00:34:52.380 She's like literally being MK ultra.

00:34:54.320 Um, they, they show her wearing clothes that were like a part of, uh, this big art piece,

00:35:01.680 this like art collective that this woman did who was, uh, sexually abused in the Epstein stuff.

00:35:07.520 Really like, like if you look, it's just, it's all there.

00:35:10.600 Right.

00:35:11.220 Um, and so, you know, eyes wide open.

00:35:13.500 And then there's all of these references and all of these connections to Stanley Kubrick's

00:35:19.040 movie eyes wide shut.

00:35:20.780 Um, I mean, it's like all like super spelled out.

00:35:24.480 So it's really fucking crazy.

00:35:26.440 Now that, that idea, again, when you were saying this on tinfoil hat, I'm like, I'm talking

00:35:30.640 back to, you know, my phone and you guys can't hear me, but the idea of MK ultra tying into

00:35:35.700 what, like, you know, she's basically an MK ultra, a little, a sex kitten, but her ties

00:35:40.240 to Scientology, if these ties actually do go back from L Ron Hubbard, his surgery to, uh,

00:35:46.560 Andrija Puharic, and it's all happens around the fifties, right around that same kind of

00:35:51.240 time where this, all the stuff starts sprouting and developing.

00:35:54.640 Um, Andrija Puharic is basically the godfather of MK ultra.

00:35:58.600 So it kind of, it's, it's almost all directly in line where you're getting marching orders

00:36:05.180 from some dude that is planting a seed.

00:36:08.200 And then it goes all the way down to current day.

00:36:10.700 Very bizarre thought.

00:36:12.400 No, yeah, a hundred percent.

00:36:13.520 I definitely think that that's all, it's all, uh, it's all tied in.

00:36:18.640 It always is.

00:36:19.760 It's weird to say that they're not, that she's unaware because that's often the question,

00:36:24.880 right?

00:36:25.040 When you look at all this, like symbolism surrounding an individual, especially in the

00:36:28.380 music industry or Hollywood and you go, do they know what they're doing that they're,

00:36:32.660 what they're implicated in, what they're, uh, moving along.

00:36:35.680 And she had an interview not long ago where I don't know if she was doing an album or

00:36:41.800 something like that.

00:36:42.840 And it's got something to do with a movie about pedophilia and she's naming her album.

00:36:51.160 I believe it's her album after this movie.

00:36:54.180 And then like, I don't know if she shoots a music video or something like that, but there's

00:36:58.100 like themes elements from the movie.

00:37:00.120 Long story short.

00:37:02.040 Oh, she did.

00:37:02.740 Uh, yeah, she did.

00:37:03.900 So she did a photo shoot.

00:37:05.960 Um, she did a Lolita photo shoot and she, she did the same.

00:37:11.020 She recreated scenes of Lolita, uh, like directly in this photo shoot.

00:37:16.860 Yeah.

00:37:17.280 Right.

00:37:17.600 And Lolita is a, is basically a movie about a dude in love with like a, you know, an underage

00:37:23.080 girl.

00:37:23.480 It's like preteen or something like that.

00:37:25.060 And it's also obviously like the Lolita express or even, um, within anime, there's a, there's

00:37:31.160 a subdivision of anime called, uh, lowly or lolly.

00:37:35.160 I don't know how it's phonetically pronounced.

00:37:36.280 Why do you know that?

00:37:37.160 Because I was doing an episode of a timeline cleanse and we were watching, um, a, a man dressed

00:37:43.800 as a woman who was a children's school bus driver.

00:37:46.720 And he chose for his name, Lolly or lowly.

00:37:50.140 And there were some people that were dropping their kids off that were like, they knew what

00:37:54.680 this meant.

00:37:55.120 And they're looking at this grown Asian man dressed like a, like a child, uh, you know,

00:37:59.480 a girl, a little girl, he's got like pigtails and a, and a dress or like a skirt.

00:38:03.660 And they're going, why did you choose that name?

00:38:06.040 What are you doing here?

00:38:07.020 You can't be the bus driver.

00:38:08.180 You got it.

00:38:08.420 So I'm confused.

00:38:09.280 And the chat's like, dude, this is like a, uh, one person's like, this has something

00:38:13.580 to do with anime where they infantilize.

00:38:16.320 That might be a word I made up.

00:38:17.420 Uh, the characters, they make them like little, little kids.

00:38:20.700 Yeah.

00:38:21.020 Right.

00:38:21.300 And, but that's weird.

00:38:22.640 And there's like, well, it's talking about infantilization.

00:38:27.160 Infantilization.

00:38:27.740 Yeah.

00:38:28.120 Oh, there we go.

00:38:29.160 Somebody knows.

00:38:30.800 That's very much, that's very much what's going on with Sabrina Carpenter with like her.

00:38:34.520 She's got like this big head and like very tiny lollipop body, but like it's, it's childish.

00:38:39.420 Like I'm not, I think she's supposed to be attractive to men, but when I look at her, I just

00:38:44.280 feel like a little off put.

00:38:46.520 She is a little under, yeah.

00:38:48.520 Yeah.

00:38:48.760 It's a purpose, it's a purposeful infantilization.

00:38:51.520 Um, and it's crazy enough that actually ties directly to Crowley because, um, basically

00:38:57.380 well, first of all, let me, yeah, we'll go here.

00:38:59.500 So first of all, like Crowley's a age of, uh, I'm sorry, aeon of Horus, right?

00:39:05.100 Within his pantheon, it's depicted, uh, by the crowned child and essentially the crowned

00:39:12.540 child is the product of, you know, the divine feminine and, and, and the male figure, right?

00:39:19.160 And the crown child, the point of the aeon of Horus is that you are supposed to embody

00:39:24.900 this childlike energy, which is why Sabrina Carpenter has a Fortnite skin, which is why they

00:39:31.400 have Sabrina Carpenter fucking happy meal.

00:39:34.680 And it's all, the reason that they're going after, uh, the children, a part of it is because

00:39:40.580 it is a harnessing of the childlike libidinal energy.

00:39:44.940 That's what it is.

00:39:45.820 So the reason, right?

00:39:47.780 Like there's a, there's a clip and it's all over my Instagram of Sabrina Carpenter flirting

00:39:52.440 with a 16 year old at a concert.

00:39:54.660 So she has this bit where she will start flirting with, uh, a fan and it's usually a girl, right?

00:40:02.680 Um, and the girl says like, I'm 16, like she knows what Sabrina Carpenter is going to do.

00:40:07.300 And she just steams past it and starts asking her if she's horny.

00:40:11.580 She starts asking her all these really crazy questions.

00:40:14.160 Um, and, and what that is, is it is a, you know, you guys have both been 16.

00:40:19.780 I've been 16 when you're a teenager, I blew right past it.

00:40:24.660 I was born.

00:40:25.740 Yeah.

00:40:26.060 Yeah.

00:40:26.460 I skipped that.

00:40:27.020 I skipped that.

00:40:28.640 Like a guy lying about skipping fifth grade.

00:40:30.820 I went straight to middle school.

00:40:31.780 Um, right.

00:40:33.280 No.

00:40:33.600 Uh, but, but like when you're a hormonal teenager, your brain is fucked up.

00:40:38.560 There's a ton of energy that is just all over the place and they're literally harnessing

00:40:43.460 it by sexualizing, you know, children and doing all of these things.

00:40:47.620 That's what that is.

00:40:48.600 It's a literal thelemic harnessing of libidinal energy.

00:40:53.340 So that's what gets me is going back to what I was getting towards before.

00:40:57.680 She, she claims that she doesn't know.

00:40:59.240 So when they bring up this whole like Lolita thing, she's like, Oh, I didn't know.

00:41:02.780 But then she's doing that shit to the audience members.

00:41:05.180 And it's like, I don't, I can't, um, free her of accountability in any way, shape or form.

00:41:10.120 Cause when you tell me that, right.

00:41:12.140 That she's doing that bit with the audience members and she's blowing past the fact that

00:41:15.640 they're 16 and then she's asking if they're, you know, horny and like, dude, this girl

00:41:19.640 knows exactly what, how, I don't believe that you get to be in those positions without being

00:41:25.220 a pretty remarkable person.

00:41:26.920 I think, I think she does know.

00:41:28.520 I think she knows on an intimate level.

00:41:30.340 I, so I, I did watch your episode where you, when you're talking about, um, Rosemary's

00:41:34.340 baby and they're, they're referencing the, the crib that would be perfect for Sabrina.

00:41:39.220 And, uh, to, to reference back to like episode one 60 of our show, we had on, uh, Nathaniel

00:41:44.520 Gillis.

00:41:45.120 We also had on, uh, Randy Goodwin, who's talking about SRA and, uh, they, they go into this

00:41:50.660 idea of, uh, like necronetics and how this, like during satanic ritual abuse, some of these

00:41:57.380 elites will do, uh, rituals like, uh, you know, kind of like Crowleyistic rituals to conceive

00:42:04.400 a child and with like when the mother's pregnant, there are, uh, ceremonies and rituals performed

00:42:10.120 while she's pregnant.

00:42:10.900 They're performed when the baby is delivered and it's all to kind of like encapsulate the

00:42:16.140 baby's soul as if they're preparing a vessel.

00:42:18.740 And I think they do this, they do this a lot.

00:42:22.040 And I think that their success rate is fairly low.

00:42:24.800 Like it's, it's all Nephilim shit, but when they do find a good vessel, somebody like a

00:42:29.200 Sabrina Carpenter, maybe it's just a huge head or something like that.

00:42:31.520 Yeah.

00:42:31.880 Then, then they know, and then this is the person that they're going to push to the forefront.

00:42:35.480 So I think if they know, she knows because she's like from birth, if you are the star

00:42:41.160 child or whatever you'd like to call it, moon child, this, that, whatever.

00:42:45.180 Yeah.

00:42:45.400 I think you have to know.

00:42:46.740 And I think that you're then trained, you know, who I think is the moon child is Paris

00:42:50.900 Hilton's baby with the big acid.

00:42:52.580 That's that baby's got a big ass head.

00:42:54.780 There's a lot of room for spirits in that head.

00:42:56.760 See, I feel like it's, and part of the reason I say that she may not know, um, is just because

00:43:03.960 like, I get so many people who are like, there's no way she knows.

00:43:08.040 And it's like a, it's a way to just be like, well, maybe she doesn't.

00:43:10.600 I don't know.

00:43:11.100 You know, like there are people who do know, you know, I, I don't think my point with that

00:43:15.940 is like, whether she knows or not is it doesn't really matter because it's what it, it's what

00:43:19.660 it is and it's what it's presenting itself as.

00:43:21.820 Right.

00:43:22.520 Um, like a kind of crazy thing with me, actually, that's very, uh, tangential.

00:43:27.860 Uh, my father was signed to Geffen in the nineties and, um, there was some weird things.

00:43:36.420 Wait, what's Geffen?

00:43:37.760 Geffen Records, David Geffen.

00:43:39.360 Uh, it's now, it's now called Interscope.

00:43:41.960 Oh, oh, that's huge.

00:43:43.800 Yeah.

00:43:44.180 He was signed to Geffen.

00:43:45.320 He toured with Jimmy Iovine.

00:43:47.020 Yeah.

00:43:47.220 John Bon Jovi, my dad was like a big musician.

00:43:50.520 Um, and part of the reason he left the industry was my mom got pregnant with me and his manager

00:43:55.940 was like a witch.

00:43:57.920 And she was like trying to do weird shit with my associated with my birth.

00:44:03.140 And so my dad, um, yeah, my dad left the music industry.

00:44:07.280 Okay.

00:44:07.800 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:44:08.700 Hold on.

00:44:09.100 Hold on.

00:44:09.500 Is we're, we're, we're at the 43 minute mark.

00:44:11.600 I just realized that we've given poor people far too much content.

00:44:14.140 And now you're talking about something incredibly fascinating and I can't allow them to know

00:44:18.520 Oh yeah.

00:44:18.600 I thought we were on the Patreon.

00:44:19.560 So I shouldn't say this.

00:44:20.220 No, no, you have to save the, you have to save the gravy for the people who actually pay,

00:44:24.500 who care.

00:44:25.220 All right.

00:44:25.520 Not these filthy pours.

00:44:26.960 Wow.

00:44:27.280 Uh, guys, Patreon.com backslash Nephilim.squad.

00:44:30.940 If you want to continue watching this episode, otherwise, uh, YouTube, Twitter and rumble,

00:44:35.560 we're out of here, baby.

00:44:36.520 Uh, uh, Izzy.

00:44:37.620 So, so what are we talking, wait, wait, wait, go back to the witch.

00:44:40.940 Who, who was a witch?

00:44:42.360 Uh, my, one of my dad's managers, one of his managers.

00:44:45.980 Um, and, and the reason I'm, I'm saying this is because my dad told me this much later

00:44:52.820 in life.

00:44:53.260 So my dad was one of the, my dad told me about project blue beam when I was eight years old.

00:44:57.760 I've been doing this shit forever.

00:44:59.000 Okay.

00:44:59.480 Cool dad.

00:45:00.100 Cool dad.

00:45:00.720 Yeah.

00:45:01.040 My dad's, I don't know.

00:45:02.500 I don't know about cool.

00:45:04.300 No, uh, no, he's cool.

00:45:05.540 Uh, but no, he told me about this when I was, uh, you know, my early twenties and this

00:45:11.460 is actually, this is a fucking crazy story.

00:45:13.260 Hand to God.

00:45:13.920 This is a true story.

00:45:14.840 I'm a Christian.

00:45:15.560 I would never fucking say hand to God if I'm not telling the truth.

00:45:19.580 One time my dad was like, you know what?

00:45:21.580 I'm going to tell you everything.

00:45:23.780 And I was like, okay.

00:45:24.660 I was, I was probably about 16 or 17 and he took me to a restaurant and we sat down and

00:45:31.180 he started talking and the power went out in the restaurant.

00:45:35.540 Um, and he was like, I guess I'm not supposed to tell you everything.

00:45:38.800 And we never spoke about it again, but this is something that my dad told me.

00:45:43.540 And he did say that they were trying to do some Malachian esque shit, uh, with me and

00:45:50.460 my birth.

00:45:50.940 And that is partially why my real, my real first name is Isaac.

00:45:55.480 It's not easy.

00:45:56.580 Um, so Isaac, Abraham, the story of Abraham and Isaac were, you know, you guys know the

00:46:01.900 story.

00:46:02.320 So, um, my point is, is, you know, I didn't know that.

00:46:05.600 And that's a super crazy fucking thing.

00:46:07.660 You have people like Eric, uh, Clapton, whose son mysteriously dies.

00:46:11.960 This happens all the time.

00:46:12.960 This happens to tons of musicians.

00:46:15.140 The amount of people in the industry.

00:46:16.020 So you're saying, you're saying that they were asking your dad to, uh, like basically

00:46:21.140 sacrifice you.

00:46:22.160 And he named you Isaac because didn't go through with it.

00:46:25.160 Cause he was like, fuck you guys.

00:46:26.920 Um, basically.

00:46:27.920 That's incredible.

00:46:29.080 Yeah.

00:46:29.380 Well, that, that kind of speaks to, cause you said top a moment ago that you think that

00:46:34.260 they're doing this all the time, but they have a very low success rate.

00:46:36.660 They probably literally are doing this all the time, but have a low success rate.

00:46:40.780 So this thing, you know, you might not have any idea how many would be candidates for some

00:46:47.040 sort of archetype that we're talking about, whether moon child Babylon, this or that.

00:46:50.900 We, we spoke with that dude, Randy Goodwin, and he's a, he's an SRA, uh, deliverance minister.

00:46:57.140 So like, you know, like a regular deliverance minister, but deal specifically with satanic

00:47:01.080 ritual abuse.

00:47:02.240 And I was like, Hey man, if you're doing this kind of stuff, you must be getting a lot of

00:47:06.060 heat because you're basically going and you're taking these people have been working on,

00:47:10.740 uh, they've been working on these like rituals with these specific subjects for a long time.

00:47:17.120 And he's like, yeah, he's like, basically though, they come and I don't know how

00:47:20.840 explained it, but he's like, they come and they retrieve their knowledge or like, like

00:47:25.620 whatever training that they put in them.

00:47:27.100 I don't know how they do this.

00:47:28.160 And he's like, and they're good.

00:47:29.500 He said, but beside that, as long as like, I just got like, they lose somebody fine, but

00:47:33.960 they, they need to retrieve something from them and then they can move on with the next

00:47:37.780 subject.

00:47:38.240 And it's just interesting, very, it's a crazy, it's a crazy idea, right?

00:47:43.620 To, to consider.

00:47:45.560 Yeah.

00:47:46.000 Yeah.

00:47:46.180 That's, that's super, that's super wild, man.

00:47:48.480 Yeah.

00:47:48.700 I, I, I'm really, I'm interested in the whole thing.

00:47:52.280 Cause like when it, when this is like what got me researching all of this stuff more was

00:47:57.440 when my dad told me this and you know, I was involved in the music industry too.

00:48:01.480 I was in a band.

00:48:02.280 I had a management deal and all this other crazy cool stuff, you know, and I had really

00:48:07.200 bad substance abuse problems, so it didn't work out, but just seeing this and seeing the

00:48:13.080 patterns constantly with so many artists and then knowing sort of the inside side of it

00:48:19.440 that I know from my dad and everything, it's just really, yeah, it's just really, really

00:48:23.980 crazy.

00:48:24.540 Like, I think that there's a lot of bloodline shit going on as well.

00:48:29.480 Like you guys asked a question on Twitter the other day and it was like, what's your

00:48:33.480 favorite conspiracy theory?

00:48:35.940 And one of mine has to do with my dad.

00:48:38.880 And I, I don't know how true it is.

00:48:41.500 Like it's, it's very, uh, it's very much just like a joke kind of topic amongst my family,

00:48:47.580 but my dad in his, up until he's about mid thirties looked, I fucking, fucking identical

00:48:55.060 to Jim Morrison.

00:48:55.800 I mean, if you showed, if I showed you two photos of him and Jim Morrison, you wouldn't

00:49:00.200 even know the difference.

00:49:01.040 You literally couldn't tell the difference.

00:49:02.720 And, um, my dad actually almost played Jim Morrison in Oliver Stone's depiction of the

00:49:08.240 doors.

00:49:08.840 He was actually one of the original people that was going to be cast over, uh, whatever

00:49:14.640 the guy's name is because my dad looks so much like him.

00:49:17.360 And the, the joke is that, is that my, my dad is Jim Morrison's illegitimate, uh, son

00:49:23.980 because my grandmother lived in a town that he used to frequent when he would, uh, along

00:49:29.980 route 66 when he would drive his Mustang.

00:49:32.800 And so I think they're super obsessed with bloodlines.

00:49:35.980 They're super obsessed with that shit there.

00:49:38.280 They're, they love the, they also love the idea of knowing things that the public doesn't

00:49:43.420 know because there's some sort of, uh, inversion trickery going on there.

00:49:49.100 It's a lot of it.

00:49:50.080 Yeah.

00:49:51.180 Can I ask you, um, you know, going back to this whole, uh, Babylon spirit that supposedly

00:49:57.780 Sabrina Carpenter is, is embodied.

00:50:00.160 And, you know, I'd like you to walk us through a little bit about the things that cued you

00:50:04.920 off to that.

00:50:05.700 And then I'd like to get into what the implications of it are, because we're talking about like

00:50:10.280 the divine feminine, which sounds like, you know, great for women, right?

00:50:14.260 If you're a chick listening to this, you're like, oh yeah, that's what we need.

00:50:16.540 We need the realm to be ruled by the divine feminine because women have been suppressed

00:50:21.300 in this net.

00:50:21.820 So, so what are the implications of it?

00:50:23.240 But before we get there, what else cued you into this idea that she is, uh, you know,

00:50:28.280 this character?

00:50:28.920 So a lot of it, uh, you know, has to do with, uh, the Jack Parsons, the working Babylon thing.

00:50:37.180 Um, and a lot of it just has to do with the various tie-ins to like, like throughout Sabrina

00:50:43.940 Carpenter's career.

00:50:44.900 So like, uh, you know, she has all these music videos, like I was saying that are tied to

00:50:49.840 MKUltra that have all of these, um, undertones of, you know, various different, uh, I guess

00:50:57.160 things.

00:50:57.720 Does she sing, uh, Pink Pony Club?

00:51:00.760 That's Chapel Roan.

00:51:02.220 Oh, okay.

00:51:02.640 All right.

00:51:02.880 Because I saw somebody in the comments say that I was like, that's a song for hoes.

00:51:07.520 No, yeah, definitely.

00:51:08.700 That's funny.

00:51:09.340 Um, but yeah, it's like, so part of it was like the eyes wide open, uh, title to her first

00:51:14.880 thing.

00:51:15.200 A ton of her videos, uh, were actually shot in Elks Lodges that were, um, you know, Freemasonic

00:51:22.960 and, and owned by, you know, various secret fraternal orders.

00:51:27.620 Um, there's also this like really weird pattern, um, of extreme violence in her music videos.

00:51:36.640 So in one of the music videos, as I was talking about, there was her being MKUltra, there was

00:51:42.260 four individuals, four men who were administering the MKUltra in the video.

00:51:48.340 Um, the next music video that came out after she's like dancing in a church, uh, and there's

00:51:55.020 four coffins representing one of each of the men.

00:51:57.960 Um, one time she made, she had a custom shirt made, uh, that had a quote from Lucifer from

00:52:04.420 Paradise Lost on it that I thought was like super weird.

00:52:07.980 And the quote from Lucifer, it's the first thing that he says in the book.

00:52:13.460 Um, and it's essentially a call to arms for all of the demons, uh, in, in the book.

00:52:20.440 So essentially right when Lucifer falls and he rises up and he's like, he tells the demons

00:52:25.140 basically like, are you going to be a bunch of pussies or are you going to get up and fight

00:52:28.800 with me?

00:52:29.260 And like, we're going to rule earth.

00:52:31.060 It's basically what it is.

00:52:32.600 Um, another one was before one of her music videos.

00:52:36.920 The titling is the exact same, uh, font as the titling in, uh, Rosemary's baby.

00:52:45.200 It's the same exact font.

00:52:46.500 Um, and come to find out what ends up happening in Rosemary's baby right at the end is, uh,

00:52:55.460 so you guys know the little girl is abducted at the end of Rosemary's baby, right?

00:52:59.380 Yeah.

00:52:59.940 Yeah.

00:53:00.160 She's abducted by the people who are following Tom Cruise and the other lady around.

00:53:04.680 There's also the Tom Cruise connection with Scientology.

00:53:07.300 There's the article that's written saying she's going to be the next Tom Cruise.

00:53:10.900 Very interesting.

00:53:12.200 Um, but essentially, um, in Rosemary's baby at the very end of it, there is, uh, this bassinet,

00:53:21.780 right?

00:53:22.340 And this bassinet is on the, the poster of Rosemary's baby.

00:53:28.020 It's like the main, uh, focus that's on there.

00:53:32.280 And essentially the little girl runs over to, uh, her mom and she's pointing at this

00:53:39.300 bassinet that's from Rosemary's baby, which is, you know, the font that's on the music

00:53:44.060 video.

00:53:44.480 And she goes, Oh mom, we can fit Sabrina in there.

00:53:48.200 And she points over to this bassinet and it's like this super weird, like, okay.

00:53:53.420 And Sabrina is the name that she gives this doll that she doesn't own, but that she wants

00:53:58.980 her mother to buy her.

00:54:00.580 That is the Barbie 1996 sugar plum fairy, uh, doll.

00:54:07.360 Right.

00:54:07.860 Well, later in Sabrina Carpenter, she has her own Christmas special on Netflix and during

00:54:14.520 this Christmas special, um, she's like doing normal things.

00:54:18.960 And then all of a sudden the video pauses and she's like holding a knife and she's staring

00:54:23.640 at the knife and the ballad of the sugar plum fairy starts playing.

00:54:29.460 It's the name of the song that starts playing behind her.

00:54:31.600 And she's like entranced by this knife.

00:54:34.040 And it's just like, it's literally dozens and dozens of connections like that, like

00:54:39.240 constantly.

00:54:40.560 Uh, okay.

00:54:41.240 I got to ask you, and I'm not, I'm not looking for, um, uh, you know, a straightforward answer

00:54:46.880 here, but it is what's on my mind is it's obviously not Sabrina Carpenter.

00:54:51.140 Who's, who's orchestrating all of this.

00:54:53.060 Right.

00:54:53.260 And to do that level of like callback, you know, we're talking about something that, that

00:54:58.020 transcends generations.

00:54:59.120 And oftentimes I will say that if you ask me who is pulling the strings, it's, it's all

00:55:05.600 spiritual because there's no man that would be alive to see the fruits of his labor.

00:55:10.800 Because so many of these things you want to talk about callbacks, um, outside of movies

00:55:14.700 and music, you'll get callbacks.

00:55:15.960 It just happened on the world stage, but they're calling back to something that took place a

00:55:19.040 hundred or 200 or thousands of years ago.

00:55:21.260 And it's like, there's no, I mean, yeah, there are shady organizations that are all jocking

00:55:25.800 for power and things of that nature, but this all feels that it's, it's moved by a spirit

00:55:30.400 that is ancient and doesn't die or hasn't died, you know, yet.

00:55:35.580 And it's still kind of moving the chess pieces around.

00:55:37.660 What do you think is going on there?

00:55:38.940 Like who, who in the hell is, I think in, in, in, in music videos, like nothing is out

00:55:45.520 of place.

00:55:46.020 Nothing is put there accidentally.

00:55:47.980 Everything is done with intention and there's people that are hired to do it and they're paid

00:55:52.440 quite a bit of money to do it.

00:55:53.420 Like, how is this happening?

00:55:54.760 The t-shirt that he's talking about is almost, uh, it's, it's a huge, it's a huge tell.

00:56:00.360 It's like, they have to tell you where, uh, they're not, he's not talking about demons.

00:56:05.380 I don't think, uh, Lucifer, I think he's talking to other fallen angels.

00:56:08.880 Yeah.

00:56:09.240 That's what, yeah, that's what I meant to say.

00:56:10.820 Yeah.

00:56:11.160 Yeah.

00:56:11.480 Sorry.

00:56:12.500 Oh yeah.

00:56:13.040 Yeah.

00:56:13.220 So these, these entities are the ones that are like kind of, this is the underpinning.

00:56:16.820 This is why it's called Nephilim death squad.

00:56:18.200 This is why we're constantly looking at this stuff because obviously the Nephilim come from the

00:56:22.120 fallen angel and this plan, this long plan to the end of days is, is orchestrated by

00:56:28.200 these guys.

00:56:28.940 So it's like, yeah, it's almost like telling you directly, this is the marching order that

00:56:33.760 I've gotten.

00:56:34.800 Will you follow?

00:56:35.580 And it's just crazy.

00:56:37.280 It's crazy.

00:56:37.960 The timeline that we're in, because she's just, they're just out there saying it out

00:56:41.540 loud.

00:56:41.800 And it doesn't seem like anybody cares or cares to notice.

00:56:45.640 See, I feel like it's so it's interesting and I'll answer all the questions, but like,

00:56:50.720 I feel like it's not so much that nobody cares.

00:56:53.780 People like me care.

00:56:54.800 Right.

00:56:55.360 But it's, it's so crazy and it's so quote unquote coincidental that it's so easy for

00:57:02.400 people to be like, Oh, they just brush it off because it is easier to live within the

00:57:08.780 realm of fallen archetypes and fake, fake.

00:57:13.160 Everything's fake.

00:57:14.220 I'm happy with my fucking goy slop.

00:57:16.600 I'm happy with the trash.

00:57:18.080 It's that's easy.

00:57:19.360 It's, you know, it's really hard.

00:57:20.920 What's really hard is to look at the artists that you might like and say, Oh, this is a

00:57:26.960 literal spiritual war for my eternal being, my eternal soul.

00:57:32.740 Like that's a pretty hard thing to do.

00:57:34.240 That cognitive dissidence literally destroys people.

00:57:37.100 And it's so much easier to go, man, that's, that's fucking, that's fake.

00:57:41.300 You know, it's so easy.

00:57:42.440 You know what I mean?

00:57:42.960 And it's, it's really annoying, but it's like, that's what these people do.

00:57:47.040 And I think to sort of answer your question, like, is it people meticulously placing every

00:57:54.920 little thing in every little part of the video?

00:57:57.580 And we're going to use this font because it's a callback.

00:58:00.860 I, I don't, first of all, I don't think it matters if it's a meticulous intentional thing

00:58:07.120 or if it's not, if it is this amorphous sort of spiritual thing that it just happens, right?

00:58:14.540 Like almost like dominoes, right?

00:58:16.580 Like the first domino has been set.

00:58:18.340 The first one's been knocked over and there is just this spiritual thing where things just

00:58:22.960 happen.

00:58:23.320 I think, I believe that reality is, uh, is quantum.

00:58:27.260 So I think it's both.

00:58:28.460 I think that there are these people who do know.

00:58:31.900 And then I think that there are people who might not necessarily know, but they're being

00:58:36.500 guided by the sort of intuition, right?

00:58:38.720 Like I'm a musician, I'm an artist.

00:58:40.200 I make artistic choices that I don't know what is necessarily leading them all the time.

00:58:47.360 And then sometimes I might figure it out later and sometimes I don't, right?

00:58:51.040 Um, but I think that that takes a prolific amount of discernment.

00:58:56.160 And I think that not everybody, most people don't have that.

00:59:00.740 Um, you know, but I, I, I think, I think there's a lot going on with it.

00:59:06.260 And I do know one thing, good artists are extremely intentional.

00:59:11.680 Everything is the way it is for a reason.

00:59:15.060 So I think to fiend ignorance on her part, when she goes like, I didn't know that I, I

00:59:20.960 don't know about the, like a Lolita that's stupid, right?

00:59:25.540 Like obviously she has a creative director team and they know somebody knows somewhere.

00:59:29.260 Um, but I think at the end of the day, I think it's quantum.

00:59:34.080 I have a weird outlook on reality.

00:59:36.100 So I got a question for you as, as a musician, I'm a musician as well, but like, uh, not to

00:59:40.320 the level you are, I just play guitar, but, um, how many, how many of your thoughts do you

00:59:45.960 think are your own?

00:59:47.020 Um, none, yeah, probably, probably, probably none of them.

00:59:59.260 Um, I think that when I'm truly, let's like, look at this, I'll answer this in a couple

01:00:05.540 of ways when I'm truly artistically creating music.

01:00:08.840 Um, I think that there are various, uh, amorphous things that are trying to come out, you know,

01:00:21.020 like, uh, different voices.

01:00:22.880 But I know like when I'm doing this, I have a joke on my soundboard.

01:00:27.620 I have like a little button I press and it says like, Holy spirit activate.

01:00:31.500 It's like a little meme.

01:00:32.580 And, uh, I, cause I literally think like some of this research that I do, it is so crazy

01:00:38.360 how things come together.

01:00:39.580 It could be nothing else other than a Holy spirit divine thing.

01:00:44.400 Like, there's no way, like, like truly, um, you know, I don't know.

01:00:50.120 No, I think that that's fair.

01:00:51.520 That's something that we talk about a lot.

01:00:53.140 It's a hard question.

01:00:53.920 Yeah.

01:00:54.060 It's not, yeah.

01:00:54.400 We kick around the idea that like 80% of your thoughts are not your own thoughts.

01:00:58.960 Um, interesting to say that, that it could potentially be zero.

01:01:02.760 Uh, but I mean, you know, the other thing that we talk about constantly is that artists throughout

01:01:07.900 history have always channeled this or that, right?

01:01:11.380 In, in Greek mythology, it was the muses.

01:01:13.460 Um, one of the things we like to say is that, uh, what was this guy's name?

01:01:18.320 Santana, Carlos Santana says that he's channeling Metatron, right?

01:01:22.100 When he's, when he's making his music, I think that was like a famous, uh, time magazine

01:01:25.280 interview or something like that.

01:01:26.620 And then you only need to look at all of the various, um, artists, musicians who have

01:01:32.940 an alter ego that takes place while they're on stage, right?

01:01:36.780 Uh, Beyonce's got Sasha Fierce or, um, even, even Eminem had an interesting thing.

01:01:43.300 It was like in his album relapse, uh, he had a song, I forgot what it was called.

01:01:48.320 It was either 3am or, or, or my darling, but he like, he names it and he calls it rain

01:01:53.560 man.

01:01:53.820 Oh, rain man is Jay-Z as well.

01:01:55.640 I mean, yeah, that's a, that's a fairly common entity.

01:01:59.500 Yeah.

01:02:00.060 Which, which if you look up, I remember there was something that I, I, I latched onto and

01:02:04.980 I got a definition for rain man.

01:02:06.540 And I don't know, I have in my mind, this, um, Lovecraftian thing, this Yogg-Sothoth and

01:02:11.380 the 13 globes.

01:02:12.340 And I'm not sure if, if that's actually it, but either way, like the 13 globes were these

01:02:17.540 entities and one of them was rain man.

01:02:20.240 He had a different name, but it was the same character supposedly.

01:02:22.640 And either way, uh, he was responsible for moving great deals of money across the earth.

01:02:29.240 And also, um, I think like fame and, you know, shit like that, but I go, Oh, that's

01:02:33.640 interesting.

01:02:33.940 It seems like an apt one for, for Hollywood.

01:02:36.140 So my point is, it's interesting that you say that Izzy, it feels like a bunch of things

01:02:40.200 are trying, they're jockeying for position to try to get in.

01:02:43.580 You're the filter that they pass through.

01:02:45.480 They want to manifest in this reality one way or another.

01:02:47.880 They can't create, they can only inspire.

01:02:50.400 And so, uh, it's fascinating.

01:02:53.260 You say that it's all very deliberate.

01:02:54.420 It has to be deliberate because if not, it is like, it's like, um, what do they do that?

01:02:59.720 Like automatic writing or automatic drawing where like people will channel a thing and

01:03:03.400 they'll close their eyes and they'll just move the pen around the, you know, the paper.

01:03:06.300 And next thing you know, some art emerges and it's like, well, that is the definition

01:03:09.820 of it ain't you, homie.

01:03:11.740 Something else is, is, is moving through you.

01:03:14.040 Yeah, no, that's okay.

01:03:15.080 This is like a perfect segue into, uh, what I got too.

01:03:18.620 So like, yeah, first of all, what you're saying is interesting.

01:03:20.860 Cause that's how I got the nickname Izzy was like, when I was in my band, my band was

01:03:24.860 called the slumps.

01:03:26.060 Um, and you know, when I was, I was the front man and I used to be able to like, I was a

01:03:32.000 fucking maniac, dude.

01:03:32.960 I could drink literally like 40 beers, you know, shit like, so my nickname came from,

01:03:37.960 they were like, Oh, you're like Izzy is born.

01:03:39.840 Cause you could drink like Ozzy kind of a joke.

01:03:41.860 That was the joke.

01:03:42.600 And that's how I became Izzy.

01:03:44.180 But like currently this project I'm writing is like, I'm writing about me and when I

01:03:49.520 used to use drugs and when I was an addict.

01:03:51.540 So it's like, I call it the gargoyle.

01:03:53.820 So it's like, if I'm writing these like low vibrational songs about like, like, like I

01:03:57.720 just dropped a song about cocaine and it's like not promoting cocaine use, but I'm talking

01:04:02.080 about this part of me that used to do a lot of fucking blow, dude.

01:04:06.020 Like, you know, it's like the gargoyle that's within me still.

01:04:09.100 I'm sober now, but it's like, that's still in there.

01:04:11.260 Like I could go on a bender right now, like that, that exists and it would be dishonest

01:04:15.560 to not act like it's not in there.

01:04:17.320 Right.

01:04:17.580 But, um, you know, it's interesting because one thing that there's like the master of the

01:04:25.400 music industry, Rick Rubin, right.

01:04:27.820 And Rick Rubin in his book that I have right here, the creative act, a way of being.

01:04:34.160 Okay.

01:04:34.640 And it's a way of being, what a weird way to talk about creating.

01:04:38.180 It's all about making art.

01:04:40.400 And what I've done with his book is I've actually gone through and I have traced all of the

01:04:48.920 different ideologies that he talks about in this book to occult and esoteric teachings.

01:04:53.920 So I've done that.

01:04:55.520 The whole book is just like I was saying earlier about Crowley, just rebranding the occult.

01:05:01.020 This is this, this book is the same thing, but what Rick Rubin talks about, the key thing

01:05:05.980 he talks about is emptying yourself as a vessel and then channeling what he calls source.

01:05:13.040 So it's just like, you're saying like, how, how many thoughts do you believe are yours?

01:05:19.460 Well, we have the guy who's considered one of the greatest producers, if not the greatest

01:05:25.160 record producer of all time, talking about how he tells artists to empty themselves and

01:05:31.560 to channel source, how many of these artists do you think are truly capable of channeling

01:05:39.960 God?

01:05:41.460 Right?

01:05:42.060 Like, do you think that fucking Jay-Z could sit down in pure silence and channel God, dude?

01:05:48.660 I don't really think that that's happening.

01:05:50.700 Right?

01:05:51.220 So, well, it's, that's, that's an interesting thing too, because then it gets into the idea

01:05:57.980 of meditation and, uh, not the meditation and yoga and why these practices, I, you know,

01:06:03.220 they're commonly frowned upon by, by Christian, by the Christian, uh, community.

01:06:07.220 Clear your mind.

01:06:08.180 Clear your mind.

01:06:09.000 Empty your vessel.

01:06:09.700 Exactly.

01:06:10.220 Well, I mean, listen, as a Christian, you're supposed to be consistently filled with the Holy

01:06:14.660 Spirit.

01:06:15.120 If you're not, then you will be filled by something else.

01:06:19.900 Sounds game.

01:06:20.280 100%, but is true.

01:06:22.640 So you consistently, I mean, you know, this is what they talk about.

01:06:26.040 You consistently having to fill up your cup because if you're not filled, something else

01:06:30.060 will slide in there.

01:06:31.100 And it's just, it's really funny.

01:06:32.560 Cause I know Rick Rubin doesn't, I don't even think he, uh, knows much about music or

01:06:37.360 plays, plays an instrument.

01:06:38.580 He's just a dude.

01:06:39.540 So it's just odd.

01:06:41.300 Yeah.

01:06:41.780 You know, it's funny.

01:06:42.440 I said that in one of my videos and I had like 3000 Spurgs.

01:06:45.980 Like he actually played guitar on the beastie boys track.

01:06:48.340 On the album, he does play guitar, which is like, that's not even the point.

01:06:52.600 The point is that, so then why did he sit down with Anderson Cooper and tell the whole

01:06:56.720 planet?

01:06:57.200 He doesn't play any fucking instruments.

01:06:58.660 Right?

01:06:59.020 Like, yeah.

01:07:00.040 Like it's.

01:07:00.620 I'll just say too, uh, just to shit on guitar players like myself, if you play guitar,

01:07:04.840 most guitar players don't understand music.

01:07:07.260 It's just a series of patterns and chord shapes that they can play.

01:07:10.760 Most do not understand the theory behind it to go and understand the theory behind it.

01:07:15.940 Like a piano player is more, uh, more likely to understand this because they're actually

01:07:20.780 looking at this and doing the math of what music is and putting these things together.

01:07:24.500 Guitar is like, it's, it's shapes, it's chords, it's scales that you can like, if you're on

01:07:29.800 the fifth fret and you could play the minor pentatonic, you're in, you know, whatever

01:07:33.180 key, slide it up and down.

01:07:34.440 You don't really have to know what you're doing and it's a, it's kind of messed up.

01:07:38.400 So whatever, just to shit on Rick Rubin a little bit more.

01:07:40.760 All right.

01:07:41.260 You played a couple of chords on it.

01:07:42.420 Yeah.

01:07:42.720 Yeah.

01:07:43.400 Yeah.

01:07:43.620 A hundred percent.

01:07:44.140 Yeah.

01:07:44.280 You're the guy.

01:07:45.340 You're the music producer.

01:07:46.820 All right.

01:07:47.620 Yeah.

01:07:48.240 Right.

01:07:48.540 Yeah.

01:07:48.720 And it's like, you know, it's, it's really interesting because like the way I look at

01:07:53.360 Rubin is what he does.

01:07:56.900 Right.

01:07:57.120 So let's say he's telling these artists to empty the vessel, blah, blah, blah.

01:08:00.920 Right.

01:08:01.140 We're talking earlier about archetypes and the way that like Carl Jung talks about the archetypes

01:08:08.080 is they're essentially, they exist underneath our, our ego, underneath consciousness.

01:08:15.340 They exist under, like if you're picturing an iceberg, right, there's consciousness, there's

01:08:19.760 the subconscious, then there's the collective unconscious underneath that.

01:08:23.760 He believes within the collective unconscious is where these archetypes lie and the archetypes

01:08:29.020 are essentially what connect all of us, right?

01:08:31.180 We all have these archetypal experiences that connect us.

01:08:34.600 Well, I believe that what Rick Rubin is, is trying to do is he's trying to get these artists

01:08:39.940 to tap in to this realm of archetypes so that way the music is better, right?

01:08:47.280 So like, just like a comedian, if a comedian tells a joke, the funniest jokes are the ones

01:08:52.040 that we relate to, right?

01:08:53.520 The best music is when you hear it, you go, oh, I fucking, I know what he's taught.

01:08:57.400 I can relate to that.

01:08:58.600 It's like a relatability.

01:08:59.580 Um, and the interesting thing that I found out with Rick Rubin is he's trying to tap into

01:09:06.840 this realm of archetypes, right?

01:09:08.600 And I think that it really worked for a really long time until recently.

01:09:13.780 And I think what ended up happening is, is as we moved into this age of Aquarius, as I

01:09:18.180 was talking about earlier into this, what I call the meta-aion of Lucifer, right?

01:09:22.940 What ended up happening is he can't reach that realm of archetypes anymore because it's

01:09:28.920 changed.

01:09:30.080 So what's happening is the archetypes are now becoming shells and they're becoming diseased

01:09:37.780 versions of themselves, right?

01:09:39.600 So if we look at the tree of life, the Kabbalistic tree of life that has these archetypes, the inverse

01:09:46.240 of that is the Clephothic tree of death, right?

01:09:50.120 With these diseased archetypes.

01:09:51.620 Now Rick Rubin cannot tap into this realm of archetypes.

01:09:55.360 He has to tap into a realm of the diseased archetypes to get the music sounding better.

01:10:01.080 So that way people can actually relate to it because the archetypes we all know aren't

01:10:05.260 the same any longer.

01:10:07.220 They need a reset.

01:10:09.100 They need a, like a great reset, like a great, they desperately need a reset because they

01:10:13.740 have, you're right.

01:10:14.700 They've perverted things to such a level that like, yeah, these archetypes are degraded.

01:10:18.880 You can't tell the story of the Lion King anymore.

01:10:21.620 Like they retell it, but it has to have this, uh, like, you know, divine feminine in it.

01:10:26.260 And it doesn't, it doesn't make sense anymore.

01:10:28.860 I think people at their, at their base level understand the, uh, they understand the archetype,

01:10:34.860 they understand the story, but when you start to pervert it, they hear it, but it doesn't

01:10:39.240 resonate as soundly as it did before.

01:10:41.600 Yeah.

01:10:41.900 I think the apex of that was like, we did Lord of the Rings and then it was like, it's

01:10:45.300 done.

01:10:45.900 Yeah.

01:10:46.120 It's all done after that.

01:10:47.060 There's no more.

01:10:47.660 You can't retell this story.

01:10:49.020 I wonder, I think the apex, I was actually talking to a guy at the coffee shop.

01:10:52.800 I think the apex was nine 11.

01:10:54.080 I think that was, that was a great story.

01:10:57.080 Well, great story.

01:10:59.240 Uh, no, but like that, uh, that ritual was when everything kind of fractured like that,

01:11:06.200 that time specific time in the world.

01:11:08.160 Then you had like a huge blood sacrifice of millions of people in Iraq.

01:11:11.520 We also uncovered some, uh, you know, artifacts and like stargates and shit in Iraq.

01:11:17.000 So who knows what happened after that?

01:11:19.240 But like, that's the defining moment in my opinion.

01:11:21.880 It's interesting too, because in, in some ways the veil dropped off after that, where

01:11:27.040 it started to become very obvious.

01:11:28.720 Like, I wonder, is he your thoughts on these characters that, you know, it's also interesting,

01:11:34.020 very like schizophrenic of me, please.

01:11:36.240 Well, actually I have two schizophrenic thoughts.

01:11:38.940 Okay.

01:11:39.160 Uh, first one, the veil thinning or almost tearing reminds me of like, you know, Jesus

01:11:44.440 dying, the veil tears in the temple.

01:11:46.300 And then I think of Sabrina Carpenter, Jesus is a carpenter completely schizophrenic.

01:11:49.900 Yeah.

01:11:50.040 Yeah.

01:11:50.260 Yeah.

01:11:50.500 No, no, no, no.

01:11:51.380 You know, it's funny.

01:11:52.220 You know, it's funny.

01:11:53.080 She literally, okay.

01:11:54.080 When she did that video in the Catholic church, she got the priest fired of the church and

01:11:59.340 her joke was, well, Jesus was a carpenter.

01:12:01.420 That's what she said.

01:12:02.380 That's what she said when the public came after her, the public came after her and she said, well,

01:12:06.260 Jesus was a carpenter.

01:12:07.620 Yeah.

01:12:07.900 Yeah.

01:12:08.140 Sorry.

01:12:08.400 Sorry to mean to cut you off.

01:12:09.740 No, no, no.

01:12:10.280 They're doing all kinds of weird shit.

01:12:11.540 They have that bald black chick doing, she's Jesus now.

01:12:13.740 Have you seen that?

01:12:14.380 I've been trying not to even look at it.

01:12:15.680 Oh yeah.

01:12:15.860 Because I just like, I recognize everything is designed to upset me and I don't want to

01:12:20.040 get into, but, um, one more thing before the completely, is it schizophrenic?

01:12:24.760 Completely schizophrenic.

01:12:25.740 I want to ask you guys though, are all of your clocks wrong?

01:12:28.720 Like, cause I, I haven't seen a fucking clock in the last couple of weeks.

01:12:33.260 That is correct.

01:12:34.120 Yeah.

01:12:34.440 It's been the craziest shit.

01:12:35.400 Like we were at jujitsu with the kids.

01:12:36.960 Their clock is wrong from the clock on my phone.

01:12:39.060 My clock in my car is off.

01:12:40.160 My dad's clock is off.

01:12:41.240 This, this clock is off.

01:12:42.720 But yeah, it's interesting.

01:12:43.660 My clock is time moving different.

01:12:45.380 That's a great dude.

01:12:46.600 That's a great observation.

01:12:48.300 Holy shit.

01:12:49.280 My, my computer at home is off from my cell phone, but they're both hooked up to the internet.

01:12:53.040 Why?

01:12:53.680 Well, I've literally stopped looking at clocks and I just, I wake up in the morning.

01:12:56.700 I say, God, what time is it?

01:12:57.520 I look at the sun.

01:12:58.160 I'm like, where's it?

01:12:58.820 I say, where's the sun in the sky?

01:13:00.700 And then I say, is that even the correct sun?

01:13:02.520 I go, gee, which one is it?

01:13:03.580 Is that the pale yellow one?

01:13:04.780 There's two of them now.

01:13:05.820 The sundial, right?

01:13:07.540 Yeah.

01:13:07.820 The sundial.

01:13:08.740 So, so, um, speaking of the veil dropping, right.

01:13:12.180 And it's like all of the illusions are kind of shitty now.

01:13:15.580 Thinning.

01:13:15.840 Thinning, right.

01:13:16.600 Um, all of a sudden the music industry goes, you know what?

01:13:20.100 Witches.

01:13:20.600 And they just give you Marina and Bromovic.

01:13:22.660 And then they give you this other bitch with the dark, she's got black fingers.

01:13:26.680 Michelle Lemmy.

01:13:27.480 Yeah.

01:13:27.900 Yeah.

01:13:28.320 So, so what do you, what, what is the point in toting them out to the public in your opinion?

01:13:32.520 And what greater implication do these women have in the music industry?

01:13:36.060 Is this just like a mask off moment or are we meant to believe that?

01:13:41.080 Yeah.

01:13:41.580 So like, okay.

01:13:42.260 So in this age that we've, we're so blessed to live in, uh, so it's Lucifer is the light

01:13:51.060 bearer.

01:13:51.560 He's the light bringer, right?

01:13:52.920 It's the illumination.

01:13:54.420 Everything's being illuminated.

01:13:55.860 These ideas are everything.

01:13:57.960 Everything I'm talking about right now in five, 10 years, these will be taught.

01:14:02.340 These will be, this will be like YouTube jargon.

01:14:05.020 People will know this shit.

01:14:06.120 I'm telling you right now.

01:14:07.440 And the reason that they're being touted out is because it's the illumination of everything

01:14:11.760 that's behind the veil, right?

01:14:13.420 That's what it is.

01:14:14.280 It's, it's, it's knowledge.

01:14:16.220 It's a false light, right?

01:14:18.060 We're going to, we're going to start seeing the spirituality.

01:14:20.480 It's going to be like new, new age where it's going to be exactly what I'm talking about.

01:14:26.060 And people are going to look at this as the light that is, is the light bear.

01:14:31.500 It's going to be the light that people see as the truth.

01:14:34.140 But really what it is, is it's this synthetic false light.

01:14:37.620 The light that Lucifer brought, right?

01:14:40.220 It's a, it's a, it's a torch.

01:14:42.420 It's not, you know, it's not the sun.

01:14:44.520 The sun is the real light, right?

01:14:46.100 And that's sort of what Kabbalah is.

01:14:49.000 Kabbalah is a false light.

01:14:51.080 It's a, it's a fallen human depiction, human explanation via magic of what God is, right?

01:14:58.760 That's what the Kabbalah is.

01:15:00.080 And now we're existing within the Cliffoth, which is the inverse of that, right?

01:15:05.420 Which is now we have archetypes of the matrix that are existing within real life, right?

01:15:10.880 So much so, so much so that like Rick Rubin, literally, he has a website called Tetragrammaton.

01:15:19.540 Do you know what Tetragrammaton means?

01:15:21.760 I'm guessing you guys do.

01:15:23.340 My cousin mentioned, he's like a, he was a devout Jehovah's witness and he mentions the Tetragrammaton a bit,

01:15:30.260 but I'm not sure what it, exactly what it means.

01:15:32.220 It sounds like a geometry terminology.

01:15:35.060 It's like a depiction of God almost.

01:15:36.660 From what I was trying, I was trying to understand him, but I'm not quite sure.

01:15:39.980 So break this down for us.

01:15:41.280 Yeah.

01:15:41.540 So the Tetragrammaton, it's, it's that it's the Tetragrammaton is the true name of God,

01:15:47.080 right?

01:15:47.820 And it's the Hebrew name that is anywhere from four to 96 syllables long.

01:15:54.840 And there are sort of like these rumors, these like ideas that if you say the full thing,

01:16:02.080 you can literally bring things to life.

01:16:03.940 There's a lot of, a lot of, uh, stories about that kind of stuff, right?

01:16:07.880 Yeah.

01:16:08.000 We were just listening to this idea about, uh, writing the name of God on the forehead of

01:16:12.480 a golem and, and animating the golem.

01:16:15.040 Yeah.

01:16:15.180 That's what, that's what this is.

01:16:16.480 Yeah.

01:16:17.080 Yeah.

01:16:17.300 Yeah.

01:16:17.700 Yeah.

01:16:17.980 Same thing.

01:16:18.900 Um, yeah, but he starts this, this project, this blog called Tetragrammaton.

01:16:24.220 Right.

01:16:24.660 And I'm, I'm looking at it and I'm reading this blog and it's also like a podcast, you know,

01:16:29.760 where he interviews Peter Thiel, which is fucking weird.

01:16:32.080 Uh, and that ties in later to a bunch of other shit that I have.

01:16:34.680 But, um, basically it's a, it's sort of like a coven and he started hiring all of these

01:16:41.360 occultists to write for this blog, right?

01:16:45.300 Called Tetragrammaton.

01:16:46.680 And it's essentially, they're trying to uncover the different sides of God using the occult.

01:16:53.460 Like they're trying to understand the sides of God.

01:16:56.420 So he has this one guy in particular who I call the new Alistair Crowley.

01:17:01.660 His name is Chris Gabriel.

01:17:04.120 Um, I've spoken to him.

01:17:05.660 Very nice guy.

01:17:07.140 Super nice to me.

01:17:08.440 I have nothing negative to say.

01:17:10.500 He's very nice to me.

01:17:11.980 Um, no desire to kill myself.

01:17:15.000 Yeah.

01:17:15.240 I will not commit suicide.

01:17:17.200 Yeah.

01:17:17.740 And so what Chris has done is he, like Crowley, has created his own mythos and his own pantheon

01:17:24.640 of the, the new diseased fallen archetypes.

01:17:30.320 So he has his own pantheon of this to describe these new archetypes that are existing around

01:17:36.900 us within a, look at meme analysis.

01:17:39.740 I'm sorry.

01:17:41.380 He has, he has a YouTube channel called meme analysis.

01:17:45.260 Okay.

01:17:45.920 Um, yeah.

01:17:47.460 And so, but what Rick Rubin has done is Rick Rubin has hired him and he writes, you know,

01:17:54.480 these pieces about, uh, Asian looking dude.

01:17:58.740 Uh, yeah, yeah.

01:18:00.660 Okay.

01:18:01.160 Yeah.

01:18:01.640 Dude's like really, really smart.

01:18:03.720 Really, really brilliant.

01:18:04.900 Like, like truly, um, really knows his shit.

01:18:08.000 And, uh, but yeah, like he's working with Rick Rubin and they're trying to like tap into

01:18:13.440 this new cliff offic realm of these diseased archetypes.

01:18:17.320 And I, I personally believe that that is really what is being injected into this new music is

01:18:25.560 like, we're the music now, like you've heard the term coworker music.

01:18:31.280 No.

01:18:31.840 Oh, oh yeah.

01:18:32.520 Yeah.

01:18:32.720 Like, um, safe for work music in other words.

01:18:35.440 Okay.

01:18:36.180 Yeah.

01:18:36.500 Like it's, it's kind of a meme.

01:18:38.000 It's kind of a joke.

01:18:38.820 Like the music is, it's like music your coworker would listen to.

01:18:42.860 Cause like your coworkers always listen to music you don't like, right?

01:18:45.320 That's the joke.

01:18:45.860 Um, and this, it's this idea that like all of the music now is coworker music.

01:18:50.640 We have people like Sabrina Carpenter.

01:18:52.560 Like we have Chapel Rhone, Pink Pony Club Girl.

01:18:55.980 We have, uh, Benson Boone, these artists where everything looks right.

01:19:01.280 Like everything looks like it should work.

01:19:04.840 Like on paper, if I wrote down all the attributes of Sabrina Carpenter on paper and was like,

01:19:09.460 Hey, read this.

01:19:10.380 Does this sound like a pop star?

01:19:12.200 You'd be like, yeah.

01:19:13.240 Right.

01:19:13.500 But because we're in this like inversed, these archetypes are diseased and nothing works.

01:19:19.900 It's just like, doesn't feel right.

01:19:21.480 Right.

01:19:21.760 So it doesn't connect to real true people like us who understand reality.

01:19:27.680 We have this idea of God and we have these sort of more antiquated, uh, traditional ideas

01:19:35.640 on reality.

01:19:36.380 We existed before the internet, like the new 15 year olds who are loving Sabrina Carpenter.

01:19:41.980 They're, they're loving this like fallen thing that we can't even connect to.

01:19:47.960 I wrap our heads around because it is archetypally completely something we can't even spiritually

01:19:54.440 comprehend.

01:19:55.720 That's really interesting because I've been like, what is the hype?

01:19:59.580 I don't understand the hype.

01:20:00.620 I don't understand the, the, when it comes to the quality of the music, even how, how

01:20:04.700 like beautiful she's supposed to be.

01:20:06.920 I'm like, she's, you know, I don't want to get behind the meme of being like, she's mid

01:20:10.620 right.

01:20:11.020 Cause that's like everybody, every, everything now is like, she's mid, she's a pretty girl.

01:20:14.540 I'm not saying she's not pretty, but it's like, um, I expect more from Babylon is what

01:20:19.040 I'm saying.

01:20:21.200 I think what Izzy's describing is like the idea of God.

01:20:24.680 There was a lady again today at the coffee shop and she, she got involved with the conversation

01:20:29.460 and she asked me like, what is God?

01:20:31.220 Like, what is God?

01:20:32.680 What do you mean?

01:20:33.760 What do you think?

01:20:34.100 That feels loaded.

01:20:34.820 Is she trying to get you?

01:20:35.820 I was like, what are you talking about?

01:20:37.140 She'd have kicked her in the chest.

01:20:38.220 I, yeah, I was, I kind of got short with her and I was like, God's the truth.

01:20:41.640 It's the logos.

01:20:42.740 It's the word.

01:20:43.500 It is, uh, you'll know it when you see it kind of thing.

01:20:47.560 And I think that with this music, like, like Izzy's describing here, you're listening to,

01:20:51.400 I'm listening to the music and I'm extremely perceptive of it.

01:20:53.720 Like, not just like on a, on like a, uh, like a musical construction sort of way where

01:20:59.840 I can like, you know, I'll do it.

01:21:01.440 I'll break this stuff down and I'll be like, ah, just like, it's just more goy slop, but

01:21:05.160 there's a, there's like some music that will move you and it moves you because at, at

01:21:11.200 the very core of it, whatever it is, it could even be pretty simple.

01:21:14.900 Like, you know, uh, music, musically simple, but at the core of it, it's true.

01:21:19.900 Something about it is something is it's inspired by God.

01:21:22.360 So you can tell what is it, what isn't like, you know, what does that for me?

01:21:25.160 The hallelujah version from Shrek one, man, that moves me, dude.

01:21:29.100 That's a beautiful song.

01:21:30.240 Kanye's album, uh, Jesus is King.

01:21:32.760 Yeah, that does.

01:21:33.380 A lot of that does.

01:21:34.260 I'm like, I don't know why, but like, cause I usually have a good sense of, especially Christian

01:21:39.160 music.

01:21:39.420 I'm like, ah, I don't know.

01:21:40.160 Some of this stuff feels a little bit like in the box when we were, we were at the other

01:21:44.720 service and they were, they had the missionaries from, uh, from Puerto Rico and, and, and that

01:21:49.160 girl was singing.

01:21:49.880 And like, there was like two songs where I was like, these are legitimate bangers, dude.

01:21:54.320 They were really good.

01:21:55.140 And it wasn't like the music was tremendously executed, but it was like, damn, they're doing

01:22:01.140 the thing.

01:22:01.600 And that's, it feels inspired by God.

01:22:03.340 And then there's other crap that just feels like it was, it's inspired by a machine and it's

01:22:07.920 formulaic.

01:22:08.600 What we're getting now is it's like, it's like, like, like Izzy's describing, it's such

01:22:12.960 a crazy thought.

01:22:14.080 It's a, it's a description of a concept that is like a facade right in front of it.

01:22:18.780 So like, if God is the truth here behind it, they've now created these archetypes that should

01:22:23.300 point back and reflect to what God is.

01:22:25.660 Cause all of these things are true within the human condition.

01:22:28.540 But now we have a full like new set of them.

01:22:31.080 Now we've got like 16 of them and they're all fake.

01:22:33.680 And so what they've co-opted the archetypes and they're trying to get them to point back

01:22:37.020 to them.

01:22:37.500 Well, they're trying desperately to get them to make sense.

01:22:40.320 And I wonder if they can, they can get them to make sense.

01:22:44.100 I think they can, dude.

01:22:47.120 Good.

01:22:47.640 Yeah.

01:22:47.820 Go ahead.

01:22:48.200 Go ahead.

01:22:48.440 Go ahead.

01:22:48.700 Sorry.

01:22:49.380 You were on a roll.

01:22:50.100 Sorry.

01:22:50.820 They can get them to make sense to a group of people indoctrinated enough to think that

01:22:55.980 this is true.

01:22:56.880 And they're, I think that they're getting close to that.

01:22:59.360 Well, and that's, what's going to happen, right?

01:23:00.860 Like all of like, it makes sense to the, you know, zoomer or even like the gen alpha

01:23:10.040 kid who only understands like friendship through the internet.

01:23:14.960 Like that kind of stuff makes sense to them.

01:23:17.600 Like if I ask a 14 year old kid, like, why does Travis Scott have a fucking McDonald's

01:23:25.120 meal, he's like, why wouldn't he, you know, like that's, that's what they, they get it.

01:23:30.040 Right.

01:23:30.260 Like I was a teacher for years.

01:23:32.000 I was a teacher and I, I, I worked with teenagers and like, I could literally see like it happened

01:23:39.520 during COVID.

01:23:40.280 I could see the shift and like the light of the kid's eyes was gone.

01:23:44.720 It was a, it was a total 180 from like when I started teaching and I was like, oh, this

01:23:52.220 is fucked.

01:23:52.920 I have to get out of education.

01:23:54.240 I can't do this anymore because it's, you're teaching a fake version of the fake version

01:24:00.820 of reality to these kids that won't even acknowledge the truth.

01:24:07.500 They won't even, they won't even, they don't even want it.

01:24:10.800 Like, so it's like, it's just like you're saying, like God is truth.

01:24:15.760 And, you know, I'm not like a Kabbalist or anything.

01:24:19.240 I'm not like somebody who practices magic, but I understand why people think the Kabbalah

01:24:26.820 or even the archetypes, they think that that is the truth.

01:24:30.820 That's like, that is a fallen depiction of trying to explain the truth.

01:24:35.160 Right.

01:24:35.480 And so for so long that worked doing this Kabbalistic magic worked trying to tap into this archetypes

01:24:43.920 work.

01:24:44.320 It doesn't work anymore because we've moved into a new age where it's the inverse of that.

01:24:49.460 So the fallen version of that is what works now.

01:24:52.380 And that's just going to continue to fractal out.

01:24:55.780 And what is going to be seen as truth and as light is going to continue to become more

01:25:02.840 and more synthetic as time goes on until like, we're a dying breed.

01:25:09.040 This is going to end.

01:25:09.960 This will be over.

01:25:11.240 Right.

01:25:11.720 This is going to be like when we die and then our kid, maybe even our kids die.

01:25:15.120 Right.

01:25:15.620 It's just going to, it's going to continue and it's just going to become more and more

01:25:18.520 bastardized as time goes on.

01:25:20.360 Right.

01:25:20.780 Well, that's the idea is that.

01:25:22.500 That's what they want.

01:25:23.280 Yeah.

01:25:24.060 Everybody's done this from like WALL-E.

01:25:26.460 Remember WALL-E, the Pixar movie, or even Mother Horse Eyes, what we were listening to

01:25:30.820 recently.

01:25:31.280 But the dystopian future is everybody is hooked up to some sort of synthetic reality.

01:25:37.200 And it's like, you know, everything is chasing that dragon of like, how close can you get

01:25:41.620 it?

01:25:41.780 How close can you fine tune it and tweak it?

01:25:44.240 Is there smells?

01:25:45.140 Can you feel it?

01:25:45.880 Does it feel right?

01:25:46.840 You know, like everything is going to be about emulating and creating this fake reality.

01:25:51.580 But I want to ask you, Izzy, what are the implications of this like Sabrina Carpenter thing?

01:25:58.100 Right.

01:25:58.220 So if we're, if we're trying to bring in archetypes that Alistair Crowley has coined, which are

01:26:04.520 really just the rebranding of old archetypes or old entities.

01:26:07.140 Right.

01:26:07.580 Um, what's the, what's the end game in this?

01:26:10.500 Uh, where, where does this all go?

01:26:12.840 If, if Alistair Crowley has his way.

01:26:14.980 Like specifically with Sabrina Carpenter or just in general?

01:26:19.000 Well, I mean, it's like, okay, you bring into this realm Babylon or you think you've

01:26:25.640 done that.

01:26:26.480 What then is the move?

01:26:27.980 Do you just go like, all right, boys, we did it.

01:26:29.980 High five.

01:26:30.580 Or is, is she meant to do something?

01:26:33.760 See, that's the thing is it's like, you're talking about this guy, like Crowley was this

01:26:40.520 individual who like, let's think about what Thelema was, right?

01:26:44.920 Thelema, the main ideologies behind Thelema, it's literally to fall.

01:26:51.900 Like that will be done is literally this idea with in Thelema or I'm sorry, do as thou wilt.

01:26:58.660 I'm sorry, I got that completely mixed up.

01:27:00.680 Do as thou wilt is the slogan of Thelema.

01:27:03.020 So the idea is to literally commune with your higher holy guardian angel, as he called

01:27:09.820 it, to find your true will and to do your will.

01:27:14.040 That is like what Thelema was, right?

01:27:16.440 So when it comes to them trying to bring about Babylon or trying to sort of summon these deities,

01:27:24.080 the idea with Babylon is that she precursors the beast, right?

01:27:29.900 Which is, he called himself the beast.

01:27:34.000 So I really, I think it's supposed to precursor some sort of apocalyptic thing.

01:27:41.020 I don't really know.

01:27:41.960 And is that what the goal with Sabrina Carpenter?

01:27:44.360 I really, I really don't know.

01:27:47.020 That's what I, that's what I see with the beast system.

01:27:49.660 And when it, when that's mentioned, that's like end time prophecy stuff, but what we have

01:27:54.020 right now is this divine fem, this very powerful feminine push.

01:27:58.360 And we also see like a, it's almost like a result.

01:28:02.080 It's obviously it's synthetic because it's a result of the masculine.

01:28:05.640 And in response to this divine feminine, we are now getting this hyper masculinized, that's

01:28:13.360 not even a word, like an Andrew Tate type of person that is pushing back.

01:28:18.460 And it's, it's basically a feminism for men.

01:28:21.080 And that to me looks a lot like what would be integrated into something like the beast

01:28:25.140 system, because the beast system is much, it's, it's, it's a more masculine aspect to

01:28:30.980 what we have now.

01:28:32.420 Well, that's like, uh, what, what, what Donnie Darkin used to, Donnie Darkin, he used to

01:28:36.840 say that, um, you know, what we're looking at is the beast system overthrowing the harlot

01:28:41.900 system, right?

01:28:42.800 The beast is, is, is, is killing the harlot.

01:28:44.960 And it's interesting because the harlot's still strong, man.

01:28:48.060 Well, we've gotten this.

01:28:49.060 So, so feminine or the divine feminine is, is often associated with chaos.

01:28:54.420 You have chaos in order, right?

01:28:55.600 The upward triangle, the downward triangle.

01:28:57.560 So chaos is where creation happens, but it's also where destruction happens, right?

01:29:02.300 It's the, that those are the two polar ends of it.

01:29:04.660 And then with the divine masculine, you have like, uh, maybe you can call it like order

01:29:09.320 and maintenance, right?

01:29:10.540 We're like, maintenance is good.

01:29:12.580 So, so the positive of, of the feminine creates, and then the positive of the masculine maintains,

01:29:18.340 but then there's like order, which is like, you know, you're going into totalitarianism,

01:29:23.980 like, uh, uh, like actual fascism.

01:29:25.960 Right.

01:29:26.680 Um, so that's what we're, that's what we're being asked to ask for in, in response to

01:29:32.280 the negative aspect of the feminine, which was chaos.

01:29:35.500 So we've gotten that chaos for all of this time.

01:29:38.500 And it's interesting.

01:29:39.120 It's on the white house, it's on the white house lawn.

01:29:41.320 They're cutting your kids dicks off all kinds of, you know, super cool shit like that.

01:29:44.340 And now we've been given this desire for like Hitlerism, right?

01:29:49.220 That was fed to us by the algorithm on Twitter, or it was suppressed initially.

01:29:53.860 And now it's allowed to that, that dialogue is allowed to take place.

01:29:56.500 It's allowed to take place on Twitter.

01:29:57.660 I saw you recently, uh, is he talking about hyper boring and I would like to get into that

01:30:03.040 because I think that that is important in this discussion, but now we're moving towards

01:30:07.320 this like hyper, um, hatred of, of Jews and this desire for a strong man.

01:30:14.120 In fact, in, in very many ways, I think it's what won, uh, Donald Trump, the election again,

01:30:18.580 right?

01:30:19.260 It was like, you need that destructive feminine force of chaos, and then you need the order

01:30:25.120 aspect of masculinity to come in.

01:30:27.260 And that comes in the form of a strong man, somebody like Hitler.

01:30:30.200 So it's, it's interesting to me that we all get Trump back in office at the same time

01:30:35.120 that we're all on Twitter making positive Hitler memes.

01:30:39.460 Izzy, do you think the horror of Babylon was depicted by Taylor Swift not too long ago?

01:30:44.060 And she just kind of like, like we've moved on, like they always have one in place.

01:30:49.400 Uh, I don't know.

01:30:50.720 That's kind of a hard, that's a hard, uh, question to answer because like, that's sort

01:30:56.240 of what Crowley's idea of Babylon is, is it's like, cause all he did with his mythology was

01:31:01.780 he like, just like bastardized a bunch of biblical ideas, right?

01:31:05.880 So it's like the same, like, like Babylon is literally like a sort of tweaked version

01:31:11.080 of the whore of Babylon.

01:31:12.360 That's like what it is.

01:31:13.480 And it's so funny cause like all of these like occultists are so, they're so fucking

01:31:17.680 unoriginal, right?

01:31:18.560 That's like what all of them do, but I wouldn't be surprised.

01:31:21.420 And maybe, you know, Sabrina Carpenter's role is to just replace her in this sort of,

01:31:27.420 you know, music realm, right?

01:31:29.360 Cause like the way that I view the music industry is it is literally the modern day

01:31:35.720 secular priest class that guises itself as secular, but it's constantly injecting these

01:31:43.300 occult themes, these esoteric ideologies.

01:31:46.820 Um, so yeah, like it, it, it could be that she's the physical representation of this deity

01:31:53.700 for, you know, kind of like what you're saying to bring chaos.

01:31:57.060 I mean, we've been talking about it for an hour and a half, you know what I mean?

01:32:00.180 Like that's, it's yeah.

01:32:02.440 I think there was a time when, when that character was, um, Beyonce, Beyonce was like that, you

01:32:08.640 know, the head bitch.

01:32:09.720 And then we literally saw that ritual take place on stage with the Kanye West, Taylor Swift

01:32:14.120 debacle where Taylor Swift is like in, uh, a white dress, which humiliation ritual, yeah.

01:32:20.740 Kind of like a humiliation ritual, but it was like, it was her moment, right?

01:32:24.700 So, so she's on stage in a white dress.

01:32:26.620 She's accepting her award.

01:32:27.880 She is humiliated because Kanye West gets on stage.

01:32:30.540 It was like the best music video award.

01:32:32.560 Kanye goes, you know, this bitch had the greatest music video of all time.

01:32:35.640 And it, it embarrasses her or shames her, humiliates her on the world stage.

01:32:39.260 Then she goes out, she has a costume change.

01:32:40.960 She comes back on the stage and she is now the scarlet woman.

01:32:44.400 She's dressed in red.

01:32:45.540 And then Taylor Swift holds that shit down for, you know, like a decade, it feels like.

01:32:50.380 Uh, and then maybe, yeah, maybe Sabrina Carpenter is just that character.

01:32:53.760 Now there's a theory that we have, I mean, from Ed Mabry, when you're talking about the

01:32:57.860 Antichrist or maybe even all of these biblical figures, the whore of Babylon, these people

01:33:02.040 that are supposed to be in place for end times, uh, he thinks that they are consistently

01:33:06.980 in place because nobody knows the time or the hour.

01:33:10.820 So it has to be, it has to be that guy.

01:33:14.160 Like there's a person to fill the role of Antichrist.

01:33:16.220 And right now, that's probably Elon Musk or something like that, or Donald Trump, you

01:33:19.640 know, they're interchangeable.

01:33:20.880 So these people are just in place set there.

01:33:23.940 And then, uh, you know, when the, the moon doesn't line up, the stars don't line up,

01:33:28.000 they go to the next person.

01:33:29.220 That's the correct age.

01:33:30.140 And it's just a continual cycle of flesh.

01:33:34.000 That's, that's so crazy.

01:33:35.380 You brought up Ed Mayberry because I'm literally like going through his catalog right now.

01:33:40.700 I started it yesterday because his, uh, what he says is so fucking on point.

01:33:46.300 Um, that's so funny.

01:33:47.780 That's such an odd synchronicity.

01:33:49.580 Um, he's been on the show like 50 times.

01:33:51.560 So it's not, yeah, dude, no, he, yeah, that guy, uh, that guy rules, dude.

01:33:55.100 Um, but yeah, I could totally see that.

01:33:56.960 And that, that makes complete sense.

01:33:58.240 I think, uh, I think Ed Mayberry is like sort of the key to a lot of my stuff tying in,

01:34:03.940 you know, and making a lot more, cause there's a lot of loose ends.

01:34:06.920 Like I do the really great research and I, and I have all of these really strong points.

01:34:11.820 And now like what I'm kind of trying to do is I'm trying to tie it all together with my own

01:34:16.540 sort of, uh, esoteric explanation, you know, in a Christian lens to kind of clean it all up.

01:34:23.880 But you've got to talk to him.

01:34:24.860 We can, we can put you, uh, Ed's a personal friend.

01:34:27.580 He's, he's on the show all the time.

01:34:28.720 We will put you in touch.

01:34:29.780 I think you guys would make an excellent episode.

01:34:32.180 I would want to hell yeah.

01:34:33.360 Yeah.

01:34:33.600 Hell yeah.

01:34:33.940 Okay, cool.

01:34:34.600 Yeah.

01:34:34.840 Sweet.

01:34:35.060 Izzy, I want to respect your time, but I want to ask you one more question.

01:34:38.640 Um, it's like, I want to respect your time, but I'm going to disrespect it.

01:34:41.240 I'm going to do, you guys are totally fine, man.

01:34:43.120 I have as much time as you guys need.

01:34:44.780 So, okay.

01:34:45.540 So, so, um, you were talking a little bit about hyperborea, right?

01:34:49.220 And it's interesting to me because so much of the, the, you know, MK ultra, we're talking

01:34:55.280 about MK ultra and we're talking about all these rituals and, and we've not even talked

01:34:59.120 about the Nazis, but here they are in 2025.

01:35:02.260 Five, it's, it's back in a big way.

01:35:04.420 And I think it's been orchestrated as such.

01:35:06.980 And it's interesting because there's a lot of like Nazi sympathizing going on.

01:35:11.140 We talk about it quite often.

01:35:12.220 If you watch any amount of, uh, Europa, you know, you're going to come out of the other

01:35:17.400 end being like, Oh, why more conditions require why more solutions.

01:35:20.640 Right.

01:35:20.880 And, and to a degree in the history of world war two has been obfuscated.

01:35:25.740 And so when you're lied to, sometimes you make a knee jerk reaction, you go to the other

01:35:29.400 side and go, you, then this must be true.

01:35:31.000 So right now we're sitting in this place where everything is about like the Nazis were

01:35:35.440 based, you know, Hugo boss made a hell of an outfit.

01:35:38.720 You did.

01:35:39.320 The Jews were a problem.

01:35:40.600 Maybe they were.

01:35:41.300 Uh, but then all of a sudden, like Hitler is the man.

01:35:44.960 Right.

01:35:45.440 And it's, it's fascinating to me that we're moving towards this thing where we're, we're

01:35:52.280 clamoring for a strong man.

01:35:53.900 They're engineering the race war.

01:35:56.160 Um, do you, do you see this or, or am I tripping and, and, and does your hyperborea discussion

01:36:02.540 fit into that in any way, shape or form?

01:36:04.480 Yeah, no.

01:36:05.140 Yeah.

01:36:05.280 I see what you're saying a hundred percent.

01:36:06.680 And, um, I think that, you know, like a lot of what I have doing has transformed into

01:36:12.720 explaining the esoteric side of pop culture.

01:36:16.260 So, you know, memes are a big part of pop culture and the hyperborean edits were like

01:36:23.000 a really big thing for a long time.

01:36:24.620 And it was like, Oh, we're going to return to your Vopa hyperborea fucking, you know,

01:36:30.460 I'm a blonde hair, blue eyed guy, you know, like I saw a ton of those.

01:36:33.660 Um, and then you do the esoteric research, you do the digging and you, you realize what

01:36:39.500 it is.

01:36:40.580 So hyperborea is this sort of, it's like the Greek version of the garden of Eden kind of

01:36:49.200 it's the land beyond the North wind.

01:36:51.580 Right.

01:36:52.560 And it's this sort of perfect place.

01:36:55.740 That's, that's what it's the, that's the ideology of it.

01:36:59.120 Right.

01:36:59.840 Well, it's been co-opted and it's been turned into, uh, this sort of all right, uh, ideal,

01:37:11.760 you know, that has been me, my, it's a meme, it's been meme-ified.

01:37:15.660 Right.

01:37:16.020 And you have these people and they're like, we returned to hyperborea, returned to fucking

01:37:20.980 hyperborea.

01:37:21.860 It'd be so sick if we're the mammoths and like all these fucking stupid fucking things.

01:37:26.440 And what it really is, is like Helena Blavatsky, who, uh, you know, basically created theosophy,

01:37:33.380 which is the merging of Eastern and Western esotericism.

01:37:36.700 And, you know, again, what did she do?

01:37:38.760 She rebranded it for a new audience.

01:37:41.080 Right.

01:37:41.800 And, um, you know, she, she created this, this theosophy and theosophy.

01:37:48.220 There was a thing called the Theosophy Society.

01:37:50.660 Um, it was led by a guy named Franz Hartman and some other guy with the crazy German name.

01:37:57.340 And actually those guys influenced Rick Rubin's book.

01:38:01.360 So there you go.

01:38:02.880 Um, but those guys resurrected Arminism and they resurrected Wotanism.

01:38:08.560 And those esoteric ideas are what created the contemporary idea of Nazism and the S the

01:38:15.920 esoteric and occult side of Nazism, right?

01:38:18.740 Well, Blavatsky, you know, they created the, theosophical society.

01:38:23.180 Blavatsky had her own writings.

01:38:24.900 A lot of them were plagiarized and crazy other, you know, a lot of other stuff, but she wrote

01:38:29.640 about hyperborea as well.

01:38:31.240 Right.

01:38:31.720 But she had this idea that there are seven iterations of humanity.

01:38:38.760 She, she calls them the root races, but it's, that's not really what it is.

01:38:43.480 It's more of these ideologies of where humans came from spiritually and there are seven layers

01:38:49.800 to it.

01:38:50.440 The first being, you know, essentially these like amorphous spiritual cells.

01:38:55.080 And the last one being, we are pure, uh, emanated beings of light.

01:38:59.760 Basically, she wrote and believed that we were at the fifth, uh, the fifth stage of this

01:39:07.080 evolution.

01:39:07.800 The fifth stage were the Aryans.

01:39:10.220 That's what she called it, the Aryans.

01:39:11.840 And I understand people are like, Aryans were actually real fucking people.

01:39:16.540 They were real in proto-European.

01:39:18.440 I fucking know that.

01:39:19.340 Okay.

01:39:19.560 That's not what I'm fucking talking about.

01:39:21.220 Fucking context, illiterate fucking morons.

01:39:23.980 Don't know anything.

01:39:25.040 Um, I'm so glad I asked this question.

01:39:27.940 No, proto-European.

01:39:28.960 They were actually proto-Europeans.

01:39:30.440 Did you, I fucking, you think I don't fucking know that?

01:39:32.380 I have a fucking, I'm so much smarter than all of you.

01:39:34.740 Um, um, so anyway, anyway, no, anyways, so, uh, she wrote her definition of the Aryans

01:39:44.260 where they were the fifth, the fifth iteration of this human, uh, spiritual evolution.

01:39:49.000 Right.

01:39:49.380 Well, what were the second ones?

01:39:51.840 The second was the Hyperboreans.

01:39:53.960 Okay.

01:39:55.040 So to all of the people who are like, we need to go back and become the Hyperboreans, reclaim

01:40:01.420 Hyperboreans, that you're literally describing like spiritually reducing yourself to like a

01:40:08.780 puddle.

01:40:09.300 Literally.

01:40:09.700 That's like what it is.

01:40:10.940 It's a complete psyop.

01:40:12.220 So all of those people who are like, you know, what did we say earlier?

01:40:15.920 What is, what caused Lucifer to fall was pride.

01:40:18.920 Right.

01:40:19.320 So all of these people who are trying to, to find this pride in this place of this racial

01:40:26.480 identity, I understand it, dude.

01:40:28.460 I'm a white guy.

01:40:29.140 I totally get, I get it.

01:40:31.200 I totally get it.

01:40:32.040 But to find it in a fucking Hyperborean meme, which is literally a psyop to get you to worship

01:40:40.640 and mythologize your own self into regressing back into this like Hyperborean being.

01:40:49.360 Is like so fucking retarded.

01:40:51.300 It's insane.

01:40:51.900 It's like the craziest thing.

01:40:53.380 Isn't it like, okay, so it's understandable, right?

01:40:58.440 Because for the last decade, we were talking earlier about how there's like been this divine

01:41:02.440 feminine and it's really been the chaotic side of things.

01:41:05.420 And, and what has that done?

01:41:06.800 Well, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's persecuted in not the harshest sense, but certainly to some

01:41:13.520 extent masculinity and, and in particular white men.

01:41:17.480 So, so it's like, it's the ultimate primer.

01:41:20.760 What you do is for a decade, you go white men aren't shit.

01:41:24.800 White people cannot be victims of racism because there's a power dynamic, which is like, you

01:41:30.340 literally have to change the definition of racism in order to get to that point.

01:41:34.100 Um, you have things like black lives matter.

01:41:37.140 You name the psyop, you name the, the fake subversive revolution that takes place.

01:41:42.060 That's funded by Soros or what the hell ever.

01:41:44.280 And all it does is it builds resentment in white people.

01:41:47.100 And then when white people have a cause, you turn around and you, you call them conquerors,

01:41:51.500 you call them devils, you call them all this shit.

01:41:53.680 So for a decade, I have such a good, like I'm watching you say this and I'm like, I should

01:41:57.560 just clip selectively what you say, put it online, black lives matter, white people.

01:42:04.980 But that's it.

01:42:05.780 White people are conquerors.

01:42:06.940 Uh, uh, so you do that for a decade and then all of a sudden we, we say this over and over

01:42:12.100 again, I really got to think of a new analogy, but you crack the release valve on it in the

01:42:15.980 form of Twitter, right?

01:42:16.900 Where all of a sudden the dialogue can take place.

01:42:19.160 And then you probably subversively inject concepts of hyperborea.

01:42:24.560 You inject this and then you allow it to, you know, organically bloom beyond that.

01:42:28.860 But at its inception, the person that injected it was some nefarious asshole who was seeking

01:42:33.480 to subvert.

01:42:34.120 So it it's understandable.

01:42:35.740 So, yeah.

01:42:36.380 So like, like, yeah, think about that, dude, like a decade of just like, man, I'm a piece

01:42:40.540 of shit.

01:42:40.940 I fuck this.

01:42:41.520 This is, so you're so frustrated.

01:42:43.260 And then you finally see this like meme that like you're, you're like, I get it.

01:42:47.760 Oh my God.

01:42:48.320 I totally, this is it.

01:42:50.100 And what it is, is it was created by some fucking girl with blue hair who knows what

01:42:55.060 hyperborea is.

01:42:56.160 And then you, you're like, this is it guys.

01:42:59.500 We're going to return to hyperborea dude.

01:43:01.840 And she's laughing.

01:43:03.280 She's laughing with her.

01:43:04.420 She literally has crystals fucking hanging from her ceiling.

01:43:07.060 And she's like, you fucking idiot.

01:43:08.720 Look at these fucking idiots, dude.

01:43:10.380 Fucking morons.

01:43:11.440 See, they are stupid.

01:43:12.660 That's literally what it is.

01:43:14.280 So what I'm wondering then is like, where does this all go?

01:43:17.300 Because I've been saying for some time that it's going to leave Twitter and it's going

01:43:21.640 to start to happen at the dinner table.

01:43:23.380 And I do believe that that's what we're looking at when we see like the Sydney Sweeney has

01:43:27.080 good genes or we see like the Dunkin' Donuts viral commercial where it's like the white

01:43:31.520 dude with blonde hair and blue eyes.

01:43:33.080 And, or there's even like another one.

01:43:34.660 I forget what it is, but there's three major companies that have released commercials that

01:43:38.600 seem to have these like white supremacy undertones.

01:43:41.420 And that tells me that the conversation has entered the mainstream.

01:43:46.260 It had to simmer in the underground, which was Twitter for some time.

01:43:50.560 And now it is leaving that place and it's going towards the big screen.

01:43:54.580 And so I don't know if the end goal is, it feels like he said, very Tim Pool of me, like

01:43:59.580 we're going to have a race war.

01:44:00.860 Like, I don't know if it's the race war is the end goal or if it's to get people to, you

01:44:06.100 know, pride before the fall, want to go back to some hyperborean puddle, like you described

01:44:10.000 it here.

01:44:10.720 Do you think that's what it is?

01:44:11.940 Or is there something more that we're missing?

01:44:14.280 You know, see, that's the thing, right?

01:44:15.980 Like I never, I never, I don't know the future.

01:44:19.560 Like, I don't know that.

01:44:20.520 I just know if you know where something is from, you have a better idea of where it's

01:44:26.560 trying to take you.

01:44:27.400 So if I can, you know, do this research and come to this understanding that something as

01:44:33.340 innocuous and as silly as this fucking meme that literally, I don't care what people say

01:44:38.040 that's, those memes have activated people, right?

01:44:40.660 And really what it's doing is you're actually unknowingly subversively degrading your soul.

01:44:46.860 And, you know, and if you think that's intense, that's too, that's too intense.

01:44:50.040 Okay, whatever, like, you know, so it's like, if they're doing it on these small levels of

01:44:57.000 memes that do have these real spiritual implications, how far are they willing to take it?

01:45:03.680 How far are they willing to push, you know, these boundaries and these lines and everything

01:45:07.920 else?

01:45:08.500 You know, I don't really know.

01:45:09.580 I don't know what the next thing looks like.

01:45:11.400 But I know that if even the memes are, uh, being tainted with esoteric, subversive, occult

01:45:20.360 magic, uh, I'm, I'm sure it's in a lot more places than we could even imagine.

01:45:26.360 Right.

01:45:28.060 I mean, so memes, memes were already tainted since like 2016.

01:45:31.860 The whole Keck thing that got Donald Trump elected is like, that goes back to ancient

01:45:36.320 Egypt.

01:45:36.740 So it's like, I'm looking at them as you're saying this, this guy, Chris, Chris Gabriel

01:45:41.900 is the host of meme analysis.

01:45:43.840 And I'm sure that he, he's a, has a better understanding of this than we do.

01:45:49.060 So yeah, no meme, like, so what Chris Gabriel does is he, one, one thing he does is he breaks

01:45:57.300 down memes and he discusses the, you know, memes, essentially the reason we get memes

01:46:03.640 is because they have archetypal truths within them.

01:46:06.720 That's like sort of what the memes, you know, and he, he explains that and he breaks it down.

01:46:11.980 But, you know, the reason he was hired by Rick Rubin is obviously because these memes and

01:46:16.860 these archetypal truths are now leaking and they're leaking into reality and they've always

01:46:22.640 been in reality.

01:46:23.560 Right.

01:46:24.540 Um, and yeah, I mean, it's just, I personally think like, if you want to know what reality

01:46:31.740 is going to look like in 10 years, go on 4chan right now, like 2016 4chan.

01:46:38.360 It's everything we're talking about today.

01:46:40.520 That's like out there, you know?

01:46:42.520 And I think people really don't understand how the occult operates now.

01:46:51.380 Cause I didn't until I really started researching all of this stuff, dude, it's like, it's in

01:46:56.360 the memes, it's in the silly symbols you see, it's, it's fucking everywhere.

01:47:01.360 It's really crazy.

01:47:02.840 I was watching some dude talk about like what a sigil is.

01:47:06.480 Um, and, um, he's like, you know, you take a concept and you reduce it.

01:47:11.920 Like, let's say you write it out.

01:47:13.060 Like it's, if it's a phrase and you take certain elements of that phrase and you, you sort of

01:47:18.180 build a symbol out of those and you keep reducing it until it's, it's simplest form.

01:47:22.140 And, and what's interesting about that is then you're left with this symbol that speaks,

01:47:27.820 um, uh, quite a bit of information, right.

01:47:30.560 Even though it's a simplistic little symbol and Elon Musk tweeted recently where it was

01:47:35.880 like, uh, uh, you know, Michael Jackson leaning over Anakin Skywalker saying, Annie, are you

01:47:42.580 okay?

01:47:42.980 Are you okay, Annie?

01:47:43.840 And this is in reference to his, um, his new grok AI anime chick named Annie, um, which

01:47:52.060 AI means I am.

01:47:53.420 And we, we've talked about this before.

01:47:54.840 I think they're trying to breathe life into AI through, through sex magic by getting a bunch

01:47:59.360 of dudes to goon to, uh, an anime representation of grok.

01:48:03.820 But anywho, he says memes are the most densely information packed, uh, means of communication

01:48:12.140 that we have or something that I'm, I'm, I'm paraphrasing, I'm bastardizing it.

01:48:14.760 I'm sure.

01:48:15.120 But, um, we're dealing with it on a daily basis.

01:48:19.180 We're a culture that loves memes and that is true.

01:48:23.760 It's like, these are the most densely packed means of communicating information that we

01:48:29.660 have probably full stop.

01:48:32.920 And, um, it's a hieroglyph.

01:48:34.120 It's a hieroglyph.

01:48:34.940 Yeah.

01:48:35.100 And, and we don't even, we don't even recognize it, but we're engaging with it all, all day.

01:48:39.840 Um, Izzy, we're, we're, we're, we're coming up on, on two hours and I want to ask you one

01:48:45.100 last thing.

01:48:45.700 I think it's before we go.

01:48:47.980 So, um, I know we talked about, it's a great question.

01:48:52.260 We've talked about some pretty harrowing, did I make that word up?

01:48:55.400 Harrowing?

01:48:55.780 Harrowing is a good word.

01:48:56.600 That's a weird word.

01:48:57.240 That's a good word.

01:48:57.900 Yeah.

01:48:58.060 That's real.

01:48:59.260 Um, some harrowing topics here on this episode, Izzy, and, uh, uh, with some, you know, pretty

01:49:06.040 dark implications.

01:49:07.080 I just want to ask you, are you having fun?

01:49:10.560 Oh yeah.

01:49:10.900 I love this shit, dude.

01:49:12.160 I'm having a lot of fun, man.

01:49:13.320 This is sick.

01:49:13.860 Like, no, it's like, um, there's, uh, there's nothing more fun than the truth, right?

01:49:20.480 Like the truth is God.

01:49:21.720 That's, that's pretty fun.

01:49:23.300 Like, I don't know.

01:49:24.140 I, I really love the idea of making these things known to such an extent that people don't even

01:49:34.000 know the origin of them, right?

01:49:35.780 Like, uh, like a great example, the Mr. Beast, uh, you guys know Mr. Beast is like

01:49:43.420 owned by night media and all that stuff.

01:49:45.940 Do you guys know of that?

01:49:47.260 I like was talking about that like four years ago on this little podcast I ran with my cousin

01:49:51.760 called Duh Heads.

01:49:52.820 And I like found a thread on 4chan of that, like it was posted and I saw it and I screenshotted

01:50:01.400 it and I brought it to my weekly podcast, Duh Heads, like the next day.

01:50:06.060 And we talked about it.

01:50:07.540 And that idea is now been proliferated around the internet to such an extent.

01:50:12.660 It is now like an archetypal truth.

01:50:15.480 People just know this.

01:50:16.760 That is like what my goal is, is to just make this shit known.

01:50:21.700 And it's like the guy who invented the stop sign.

01:50:24.340 No one knows who invented it, but it's just out there.

01:50:27.260 That's like what this is.

01:50:28.620 Like, just let everybody know what's going on.

01:50:31.280 What's really going on, what I think, make some fun, cool fucking songs about when I

01:50:35.840 used to do cocaine and fucking, you know, maybe have a couple concerts and fucking rock

01:50:41.040 and roll, dude.

01:50:41.920 And if anybody in the music industry ever wants to fight me, I train every single day.

01:50:46.360 I'll beat the fuck out of all of you, dude.

01:50:48.760 Train MMA, baby.

01:50:50.720 Would you consider doing music at, we have an event that we do.

01:50:57.560 We just did the third one.

01:50:58.520 It was, it was headlined by, it's called Brohemian Grove.

01:51:01.980 We just had Sam Tripoli and Owen Benjamin, and it was an awesome time.

01:51:06.560 Would you, would you do music at our event, Izzy?

01:51:09.300 Dude, I'd be super down.

01:51:10.560 That'd be so sick.

01:51:11.180 How sick would that be?

01:51:12.280 That'd be dope as hell.

01:51:13.100 All right.

01:51:13.320 We'll consider it a formal invite.

01:51:15.000 We'll let you know when the next one's going to happen.

01:51:16.580 And we'd love to have you over.

01:51:19.560 One more time, Izzy, where can everybody find you?

01:51:21.900 Yeah.

01:51:22.280 Best place.

01:51:22.920 If you want the full breakdowns, everything I do is fully sourced.

01:51:26.340 Uh, it's on my Patreon, patreon.com slash Izzy and Griffin.

01:51:29.840 I'm dropping a video, uh, tomorrow about, um, how the Joe Rogan comedy sphere directly

01:51:38.580 mirrors, uh, the Royal Order of Jesters and Freemasonry.

01:51:44.880 That's the coolest shit I've ever heard.

01:51:47.100 Yeah.

01:51:47.440 It's like a direct mirror.

01:51:48.600 It's really crazy.

01:51:49.220 Dropping that tomorrow.

01:51:50.860 Um, yeah, I have free trials on there.

01:51:53.740 My Instagram is at Izzy and Griffin.

01:51:56.440 Um, yeah.

01:51:57.480 YouTube at Izzy and Griffin.

01:51:58.600 If you want some samples of everything I do, and then I have music, it's you'll find

01:52:02.840 me Izzy and Griffin somewhere.

01:52:04.200 So, um, keep in mind with that Joe Rogan idea and his, uh, his group of minstrels, uh,

01:52:12.280 Joe Rogan introduced, I mean, yeah, I like, I like, I enjoy the show, but it is what it

01:52:17.360 is.

01:52:17.580 Uh, keep in mind of him introducing the ideas of, uh, DMT, uh, mushrooms, float tanks, this

01:52:24.600 kind of stuff, like getting you in touch with this, uh, astral realm or this, you know, this

01:52:30.020 underneath side of things, because there is a little bit of a, uh, David loves to say that

01:52:34.820 Joe Rogan is the, the Laurel Canyon of today's, you know, culture.

01:52:39.480 Sure.

01:52:40.100 Yeah.

01:52:40.360 So very interesting to see that.

01:52:42.900 And then to see the comedians that are around him and that are pushed and what is being said.

01:52:47.980 And again, I enjoy most of these guys.

01:52:50.000 Like I, I'll say, yeah, yeah, but I'm fucking suspicious, bro.

01:52:55.220 What are you, what are you doing over there?

01:52:57.160 Yeah.

01:52:58.020 Some weird stuff.

01:52:59.040 Well, I think we have to have, uh, Izzy back on sometime then to shit on Joe Rogan in the

01:53:04.680 most loving way.

01:53:06.040 I just want to know what you're doing over there.

01:53:07.500 What are you doing?

01:53:08.120 Why are you doing CIA?

01:53:09.600 I agree.

01:53:11.620 Everybody should take DMT and jerk off dolphins.

01:53:13.820 All right.

01:53:14.120 Um, top is, is that it?

01:53:15.900 Is that always, is that it, man?

01:53:17.680 Um, Izzy, thank you again for coming guys.

01:53:19.900 Thanks for hanging out.

01:53:20.640 And as always, don't forget to obey, submit and comply.

01:53:25.600 We'll see you later.

01:53:29.040 It's a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:53:32.760 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:53:36.580 You can persuade us that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.

01:53:42.400 You know, because they'll laugh in the face of an expedition that portrays the bigger picture

01:53:49.040 of what's going on.

01:53:50.580 And they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - August 08, 2025

191： MKUltra, Crowley & Sabrina Carpenter’s Occult Rise w⧸ Izzy N Griffin

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