Nephilim Death Squad - 208： Tierra Piatta w⧸ Phonebooth Podcast

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00:00:15.920 Top Lobson Productions.

00:00:20.260 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:00:24.820 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:00:31.160 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:00:39.580 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely normal.

00:00:45.940 Oh yeah, dude.

00:00:47.100 They should never.

00:00:48.240 It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the grave.

00:00:53.380 These munchies, they controlling this now.

00:00:55.700 I know we're talking about how they made a spot of these slaves.

00:00:58.840 And everybody's just walking around.

00:01:00.920 And in the clouds, I want to wake up to a dead in the grave.

00:01:04.040 But unless you may, we need to be ready to raise up.

00:01:06.840 Welcome to the end of day.

00:01:08.580 Everybody is slaves.

00:01:10.020 Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in their...

00:01:13.460 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:01:18.960 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

00:01:21.360 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

00:01:25.460 Before we get into today's guests, a little reminder.

00:01:28.960 We don't like people who don't have money.

00:01:31.840 And so we will be shaking you off around the half an hour mark.

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00:01:39.060 If you do have money, patreon.com forward slash Nephilim Death Squad.

00:01:43.200 That's a rough way to say it from somebody that was just poor.

00:01:45.540 Dude, I...

00:01:46.360 Honestly, I've been thinking about that a lot lately.

00:01:48.880 I'm like, you should have never gave me money.

00:01:51.420 Should have never gave these...

00:01:53.240 It gives money.

00:01:53.900 That's it.

00:01:54.420 In the words of Rick James.

00:01:56.740 Dave Chappelle.

00:01:57.040 Well, technically it's Rick James.

00:01:59.080 Yeah, should have never gave me money because I immediately started to look at poor people

00:02:02.000 with disdain.

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00:02:20.700 If you want to give us more money and actually get something for...

00:02:23.300 I mean, you'll get some stuff on Patreon, but yeah, there you go.

00:02:25.220 Go to toplobsa.com.

00:02:26.320 David, as is tradition, pick out a random design that you want to talk about.

00:02:31.420 I like the mother...

00:02:32.000 Yeah, let's...

00:02:32.520 No, let's...

00:02:32.940 I like mother horse.

00:02:33.780 I scroll down.

00:02:34.180 We never get to the second one.

00:02:35.280 Go down a little bit.

00:02:35.880 I want to see what else is down there.

00:02:36.780 Yeah, we got some more.

00:02:37.680 Ooh, the fall.

00:02:39.200 The fall is nice.

00:02:40.120 The fall is a banger.

00:02:41.220 That's a really cool design.

00:02:43.100 Yeah, that's a cool design, honestly.

00:02:45.760 Also, the stoned ape theory, the Bigfoot one.

00:02:47.660 I like it.

00:02:48.100 It's a colorful one.

00:02:48.780 We don't do too many colorful ones.

00:02:49.960 That's a banger, too.

00:02:50.640 It's a beautiful shirt.

00:02:51.580 Toplobsa.com.

00:02:52.320 Go pick up your shirt.

00:02:53.000 Let's get into the guests.

00:02:53.920 Introduce the guests.

00:02:54.740 Joining us today are Ted and the very Italian Vince.

00:02:59.460 But before we get into conversations and before we get into the corrections about how Vince

00:03:03.540 is an Italian, please, guys, let everybody know where they can find you.

00:03:08.220 We'll start with Ted.

00:03:09.100 I like to do that so nobody steps on each other's toes.

00:03:11.400 We'll start with Ted.

00:03:12.040 That's good.

00:03:12.620 Very professional.

00:03:13.920 Thank you.

00:03:14.180 Twitter is at TedLogan1010 or everything's at phoneboothpodcast.substack.com.

00:03:19.560 Got four podcasts there.

00:03:21.160 This motherfucker has a podcast.

00:03:22.580 We have a podcast on there.

00:03:23.520 It's called Here's the Thing that he mostly interviews like 80s hair metal rock stars.

00:03:28.920 It's fucking awesome.

00:03:29.800 He was on with Direct D last night, so that was kind of cool.

00:03:32.460 I don't know if you guys know who he is, but I have no idea who that is, but that's

00:03:35.420 not that's not anything against Direct D.

00:03:37.360 I am completely uncultured.

00:03:38.880 It's like a European thing.

00:03:40.320 It sounds like a European thing.

00:03:42.280 No, no.

00:03:43.440 He's in Arizona.

00:03:44.160 You have to click past that page.

00:03:47.440 Dude, can you click on the page and do it the right way?

00:03:50.200 Vince, where can we find where can we find you, Vince?

00:03:52.380 What are you doing?

00:03:53.080 I mean, you find me right here.

00:03:54.780 If you click past that.

00:03:55.820 There you go.

00:03:56.620 I thought that was a sex picture, but that's not a sex picture.

00:04:00.040 Yeah, up there in the tabs, you can see all the different podcasts.

00:04:04.000 The Phone Booth podcast, Dualistic podcast, Here's the Thing podcast, and the upcoming

00:04:08.620 Philosopher's King podcast.

00:04:10.200 And then we got four pages for Ted, me, and Snoop One Poop.

00:04:14.640 That's the other guy.

00:04:15.720 And Jonah, that's the other guy.

00:04:18.020 And then there's a whole bunch of shit there.

00:04:20.360 Yeah.

00:04:20.720 Just go there.

00:04:21.600 I like the way this is laid out.

00:04:23.100 It's actually a really nice website.

00:04:24.540 Yeah.

00:04:24.660 I'm actually considering, yeah, I mean, they came on.

00:04:26.740 Yeah.

00:04:27.000 They came on the page, well, on our show.

00:04:29.740 On our show.

00:04:30.280 And before the show, they were like, StreamYard's gay.

00:04:31.740 That's true.

00:04:32.220 They did say that.

00:04:32.840 StreamYard sucks.

00:04:33.660 EVMux is where it's at.

00:04:35.360 Cheaper, way more features, high quality, like 4K shit and all that stuff.

00:04:41.120 It's great.

00:04:41.400 This show is being brought to you by EVMux.

00:04:43.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:45.900 What the hell?

00:04:46.800 Shout out, EMux or whatever.

00:04:48.120 I will say this.

00:04:49.120 If you email them about something, they actually email you back and like, oh, that's a good

00:04:53.260 idea.

00:04:53.700 We sent that to our programmers, blah, blah, blah.

00:04:56.060 So that shit's cool.

00:04:56.760 But anyway, we're here to sell you nothing.

00:04:59.500 We'll look into it.

00:05:00.620 Except dreams.

00:05:01.240 We're not going to look into it.

00:05:01.940 That's okay.

00:05:03.000 I know you're looking into it.

00:05:03.620 We're not just fine.

00:05:04.940 Can I just say-

00:05:05.580 Your page here is beautiful.

00:05:06.460 It's laid out nicely.

00:05:07.700 You got a lot.

00:05:08.200 I run into this problem a lot.

00:05:10.620 Before you can just say anything, Vince, I'm going to say something.

00:05:14.560 This is like a problem that I had with my other website, Top Lobsters.

00:05:18.200 I got a lot of stuff.

00:05:19.800 But this looks nice.

00:05:21.040 You could find this stuff.

00:05:22.180 Look at this.

00:05:22.380 Does a good job of laying out all this stuff.

00:05:23.920 Yeah.

00:05:24.400 Got a lot of shit.

00:05:25.460 Also, these guys, these motherfuckers got a lot of podcasts.

00:05:27.980 Mad podcasts.

00:05:28.940 Did you ever think that maybe too many?

00:05:31.120 Did you ever think about doing a podcast about podcasts?

00:05:32.820 No, I'm only on one of them.

00:05:35.260 All the rest is their own shit.

00:05:36.780 I'm only on one of them.

00:05:37.740 Everybody just has their own podcast.

00:05:39.420 They're just underneath us.

00:05:40.580 We helped them set up.

00:05:41.940 We taught them how to use the stuff.

00:05:43.460 We gave them whatever they needed to get started because we met cool people that had voices

00:05:47.780 but had no following.

00:05:48.980 And we're like, dude, this is easy.

00:05:50.560 Grab a mic.

00:05:51.180 Get a fucking camera.

00:05:52.260 Start talking to people.

00:05:53.400 Here.

00:05:53.920 I got almost 100,000 followers.

00:05:55.640 I'll repost everything you do.

00:05:58.080 Just get your fucking voice out.

00:05:59.700 So that's what it is.

00:06:01.040 I love it.

00:06:01.580 That's very cool.

00:06:03.060 It's like an umbrella.

00:06:03.820 It's like an umbrella.

00:06:05.120 Yeah.

00:06:05.380 All right.

00:06:05.640 It's like an umbrella.

00:06:06.240 Yeah.

00:06:06.360 So look, you know, I want to preface this a little bit with me and Ted are actually preface

00:06:14.140 preface preface.

00:06:14.780 Well, preface, you know, you pre you preface it starting early boys.

00:06:19.080 Yeah.

00:06:19.720 Did I make that up?

00:06:20.920 Ted and I are actually buddies.

00:06:22.660 He was one of the first people that gave me the time of day on X and much to his dismay

00:06:28.220 because eventually he was just I'm not associated with this racist anymore.

00:06:31.280 And but in the beginning, before I was ever a terrible person, I latched on to.

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00:06:50.460 Hashtag make a play.

00:06:56.540 Is that them or us?

00:06:59.120 It's not me.

00:07:00.040 It's not me either.

00:07:02.580 They can't hear us either.

00:07:03.980 Yeah.

00:07:04.260 Oh, you're froze for a second, guys.

00:07:06.520 What was the name of that other streaming streaming?

00:07:09.940 EVMux.

00:07:10.420 Hold on.

00:07:11.960 Hold on.

00:07:12.740 E.

00:07:13.400 V.

00:07:14.400 M.

00:07:15.120 U.

00:07:15.660 X.

00:07:16.300 Shout out to EVMux.

00:07:18.060 EVMux.

00:07:18.640 UK or something like that?

00:07:20.100 No, dot com.

00:07:21.640 EVMux.com.

00:07:22.700 They can have dot com there.

00:07:24.140 It's all good.

00:07:24.340 I can't stress it enough.

00:07:26.200 Get me there quickly.

00:07:27.360 Well, you know what it is?

00:07:28.180 It's not StreamYard.

00:07:29.220 It's our Elon Musk supplied internet that would really be the issue.

00:07:34.280 We have Starlink.

00:07:35.880 And so, you know, anywho.

00:07:38.060 Got to feed the beast.

00:07:38.980 Real early in my Twitter days, I found Ted on Twitter.

00:07:42.820 And Ted was making banger after banger in the realm of flat earth when it came to content.

00:07:49.200 And it was – I hadn't been on Twitter yet, you know, before that.

00:07:53.980 I wasn't on Twitter when Twitter was gay.

00:07:56.040 My Twitter's still gay, but it's just different gay.

00:07:58.260 And so I had got on there, and I wasn't really subjected to flat earth content.

00:08:03.840 Certainly not at the magnitude.

00:08:06.360 Ted was assaulting people with flat earth content.

00:08:09.760 Like, it was like a never-ending hose of flat earth content.

00:08:13.420 Remember those videos where they would, like, spray black people with the hoses?

00:08:16.580 Yeah.

00:08:16.840 That was, like, me.

00:08:17.660 Like, I was the black person.

00:08:18.660 And then Ted was the hose, but it was all flat earth content.

00:08:21.820 And I was like, damn, dude.

00:08:22.800 And it was like a crash course.

00:08:24.240 Like, I was learning so much so quickly.

00:08:26.760 So I want to thank you, number one, for being my introduction to flat earth in a really big way.

00:08:32.440 Let's have a round of applause for Ted.

00:08:35.420 You're welcome.

00:08:36.820 I see why – yeah, he's right.

00:08:38.260 It's why they would ban people like you because it's, like, compelling, convincing evidence that is hard to, like, poo-poo away.

00:08:47.240 Yeah.

00:08:47.580 And it's just a fire hose of it.

00:08:48.740 It's just consistently – you and – I mean, Ted was doing it.

00:08:52.200 There were – death?

00:08:53.200 Death, Rufus, and Bill.

00:08:56.760 And Bill, yeah.

00:08:57.920 And these four guys were – you know, it's funny, too.

00:09:00.580 It was really my introduction into shit-talking on Twitter in a big way, too, because everybody – and I'm sure it's still the case – was trying to step up to the plate and say one thing or another.

00:09:11.260 And so these guys got really good at not only presenting really fun information, but also slapping losers in the fucking teeth, which was a lot of fun to watch.

00:09:22.360 Like, over and over again, somebody would step up, and so they'd dunk on them.

00:09:25.360 And am I wrong in saying, Ted, that's, like, how you kind of cut your teeth, right, on Twitter?

00:09:30.900 That's – because right now you're sitting close to 100,000 subscribers.

00:09:35.100 And I would say that the flat earth situation hasn't gone away.

00:09:39.220 It's only gotten bigger.

00:09:40.920 Yeah, and it will continue to.

00:09:42.920 Just a matter of how many people wake up.

00:09:44.700 But, yeah, that is how I, quote, unquote, cut my teeth was – but this wasn't a plan.

00:09:49.940 Like, this is me in real life.

00:09:51.580 That's how I talk to my fucking friends when they say stupid shit.

00:09:54.680 So when it's somebody I don't know, especially someone who doesn't have the balls to show their face and wants to say something I already heard a thousand times, I'm well-equipped to slap a bitch down.

00:10:04.360 So it was fun.

00:10:05.740 And I think that it inspired other people to do that, to have the confidence to not just be like, well, you should look at this.

00:10:15.080 Be like, no, you're fucking retarded.

00:10:17.240 Look at this and then move on to somebody else and slap them too.

00:10:21.160 So it's a different approach.

00:10:23.140 It's not for everybody.

00:10:24.380 But comedy and shit talking is my whole thing.

00:10:27.680 Let me just say something.

00:10:30.480 I am so glad that we're – because Vince is making me so nervous.

00:10:34.760 Look at him.

00:10:35.260 He's moving around a lot.

00:10:36.920 He's menacing, right?

00:10:38.380 He's got this posture in the bottom.

00:10:40.700 Why am I making everybody nervous and people hate me and nervous and all that?

00:10:45.540 What's going on?

00:10:46.540 Have you heard this before?

00:10:49.960 I've heard people getting nervous.

00:10:51.640 He triggers some fucking people, though.

00:10:53.500 He triggered Escanor.

00:10:54.740 He's triggered fucking a lot of people.

00:10:56.440 That makes – everybody triggers Escanor.

00:10:58.900 I love Escanor, but everybody triggers him.

00:11:00.700 You know what's funny?

00:11:01.280 I just want to make it known.

00:11:02.860 I can't see Vince.

00:11:04.360 Our camera is over Vince's face.

00:11:07.000 All I can see is Freddie Mercury.

00:11:08.940 So there's a picture of Freddie Mercury.

00:11:11.460 Oh, there we go.

00:11:12.660 There we go.

00:11:13.180 That's actually perfect.

00:11:14.540 He just moved right out of the way of the camera.

00:11:17.460 Well, okay.

00:11:18.200 So that brings me to my next point before we get into all the Flat Earth discussion.

00:11:20.820 You do a podcast called The Phone Booth Podcast, which we highlighted at the start of the show here.

00:11:26.880 And Vince – I never had the pleasure of meeting Vince.

00:11:30.220 I met the other homies, and Vince is new.

00:11:32.220 How did you find him?

00:11:33.240 What vacation to a favela in Italia did you find?

00:11:41.000 Which hostel did you find Vince at?

00:11:44.500 You're going to stay here, by the way.

00:11:45.900 You're going to stay here.

00:11:46.380 Honestly, it's actually great.

00:11:47.640 Yeah, you can sit right there.

00:11:48.560 It's perfect.

00:11:48.820 The whole time and never move anything, including your mouth.

00:11:52.160 No, I'm just kidding.

00:11:53.520 So honestly, all the other dudes I'm still really good with, they just all had monumental changes in their life.

00:12:04.260 And you guys know as well as I do, it's very hard to devote the time, especially when someone like me who's running it wants to grow.

00:12:11.340 When you don't just want to, hey, one episode a week, that's enough.

00:12:14.540 And it was hard enough to get them to do that.

00:12:16.240 They all have kids.

00:12:17.160 They all have full-time jobs.

00:12:18.740 Are they in different time zones too?

00:12:20.740 Yeah, except for Bill.

00:12:22.080 He's in the same time zone, but he had something crazy come up.

00:12:25.480 He lives in a different place now.

00:12:26.640 A whole bunch of stuff.

00:12:27.700 Oh, man.

00:12:28.120 So then I called Indian tech support, and this dude picked up.

00:12:33.080 And it had mouth.

00:12:34.340 I am here to support you.

00:12:36.420 What do you need from me?

00:12:38.220 You know what?

00:12:38.940 This guy.

00:12:39.800 Do you work for Vmux?

00:12:41.420 Is this a Vmux employee?

00:12:42.600 I don't work for EVmux.

00:12:44.460 Yes, I do.

00:12:45.000 So what really happened was he was actually the first podcast we were ever on, me and Bill, because we met him on Twitter.

00:12:52.240 And he was like, oh, I have a podcast.

00:12:54.020 You guys should come on and talk about Flat Earth.

00:12:55.920 And that was the first time I ever was on a podcast ever.

00:12:59.160 And right after that, this was before we even had a podcast.

00:13:02.640 Right after that, he was like, hey, you guys have something.

00:13:06.540 You should start a podcast.

00:13:07.820 And I'm like, dude, I don't know anything about that.

00:13:10.020 I don't even have a working computer, blah, blah, blah.

00:13:12.600 He's like, I'll teach you.

00:13:14.000 I'll tell you this program's free.

00:13:15.740 This program's free.

00:13:16.720 You can get this camera cheap here if you need it.

00:13:19.220 Someone who never met me who lives in Sweden was willing to go out of his way and spend hours on a live stream helping someone he doesn't know.

00:13:28.720 So when all of them left, he happened to come on an episode to help me because I had no guests.

00:13:36.220 I had nothing.

00:13:36.840 Everyone left.

00:13:37.460 I was like, what the fuck?

00:13:38.360 Can you show up?

00:13:39.280 He showed up.

00:13:40.300 And after that episode, I was talking to my wife.

00:13:42.880 And I was like, man, it's awesome that Vince helped me start the podcast.

00:13:45.620 He came here to help me when all this fell apart.

00:13:47.900 And I need somebody else.

00:13:49.320 Maybe I should talk to him about it.

00:13:51.080 And the next day, and he's gone now, gay.

00:13:53.680 He's like, oh, yeah, watch this, dude.

00:13:55.800 Oh, so his shit was dropping out before.

00:13:59.140 So I told him if it does, when he couldn't hear shit, just drop out and come back in.

00:14:02.200 Yeah, just come back in.

00:14:03.340 Yeah.

00:14:03.840 But so, yeah, I was talking to my wife about that.

00:14:06.620 And the next day, he messaged me and was like, hey, man, I really had a lot of fun last night.

00:14:11.700 I know that you don't have anybody right now.

00:14:14.280 If you need help, I'm more than willing to come help you.

00:14:18.240 And that's how it started.

00:14:19.560 And then as soon as we got together, it was like the podcast is easy now.

00:14:24.280 That's done.

00:14:24.980 So let's build other stuff because we all know how to do this now.

00:14:29.120 We've got that locked.

00:14:30.260 We can do one episode a week easily.

00:14:31.940 Let's do a live stream.

00:14:32.980 Let's help other people, blah, blah, blah.

00:14:34.340 So that's why he's here, even though he's foreign as fuck.

00:14:37.220 But it's cool.

00:14:37.680 You know what's funny about that, though, is like, you know, that's really cool that Vince

00:14:42.460 helped you figure out the ins and outs and how to get started and everything.

00:14:45.340 It is worth mentioning that you can delve into something as intricate as flat Earth and the

00:14:54.640 way that it's been obfuscated and the way that they've lied to us, the secrets that NASA keeps

00:15:00.740 and the lies that they're spreading and, you know, all these complex things where people are out there

00:15:06.520 measuring curvature per square mile.

00:15:08.940 But you can't figure out, like, how to start a how to get a podcast.

00:15:13.340 And I'm not even, like, dunking on you.

00:15:16.820 I'm saying me too, dude.

00:15:18.940 Like, if it wasn't for Top's help in this arena, I would be useless.

00:15:24.080 In fact, if he ever decides to go like, you know what, dude, you're more annoying than

00:15:28.220 you're worth, then I will also I'll be reduced to being useless once again.

00:15:32.820 Well, how I got a question.

00:15:34.220 So how does where do you where do you fit into the the conspiracy realm, Vince?

00:15:39.660 Because you're in Sweden right now.

00:15:41.400 Yeah, allegedly, allegedly, I say he's from Denver.

00:15:46.180 But yeah, what what is the what are the what's the conspiracy landscape like in Sweden?

00:15:52.680 Because you're not really bad.

00:15:54.520 So really bad.

00:15:55.940 So people are super normie out there.

00:15:58.160 Fucking normies.

00:15:59.880 All right.

00:16:01.020 Break it down.

00:16:01.680 There's a small, small number of awakened people.

00:16:04.720 Like, let's say a thousand.

00:16:06.540 It feels like like out of the entirety of Sweden.

00:16:09.360 Yeah, out of 10 million people, it feels like a couple of thousand at most.

00:16:14.720 That's rough, dude.

00:16:15.800 Yeah, it is.

00:16:16.460 Well, I mean, they're they're not like at the center point.

00:16:19.160 That's what I'm saying.

00:16:19.600 Like, you're not where NASA is, but you're paying attention.

00:16:23.240 Well, isn't that where where CERN is?

00:16:25.860 I don't know.

00:16:26.640 Switzerland.

00:16:27.140 No, no, no.

00:16:27.560 That's Switzerland.

00:16:28.140 Switzerland.

00:16:28.640 I made the same mistake, dude.

00:16:30.340 Don't feel bad.

00:16:31.040 They're all.

00:16:31.320 Well, they make the same noise.

00:16:32.560 It's not America.

00:16:33.420 But I think what you're thinking of, Raven, is Facebook have their servers here in Sweden,

00:16:38.880 probably because it's cold.

00:16:40.380 It's cold.

00:16:41.260 Yeah, that's why.

00:16:42.600 That's why.

00:16:43.600 Yeah, absolutely.

00:16:44.360 That's interesting, because I think in America, we've gotten to the point where, like, I used

00:16:50.120 to feel very much like it was like the same thing, Vince, like a thousand people were awake

00:16:55.540 if you were lucky.

00:16:56.280 And of course, you disperse them across America.

00:16:57.840 You're never going to bump into them in real life.

00:17:00.780 And I feel like that's changed lately.

00:17:03.140 I mean, certainly where we live as well.

00:17:06.340 We literally know a guy who owns a coffee shop we now make content with, and he's local

00:17:11.100 to us, and he's making content with us.

00:17:13.500 But it's like, I do feel like I go places, I overhear a conversation where I'm like, this

00:17:19.220 person knows something, or I'm at a gathering.

00:17:21.740 I was at my wife's office party, you know, for the holidays, and people are coming up to

00:17:28.540 me, and they're like, oh, so you're the conspiracy guy.

00:17:30.820 And I'm going, and they go, what do you think about this?

00:17:34.200 What do you think about, you know?

00:17:35.420 Yeah, they do it at my wife's office party.

00:17:37.380 Someone was like, they came up to me, and a lady looked normal.

00:17:40.300 She's just like, the sun is not real.

00:17:43.060 Like, that's not the real sun.

00:17:44.560 And I was like, hold on, bitch.

00:17:45.380 I don't even know you.

00:17:48.140 But yeah, that's where we've gotten.

00:17:49.660 I mean, that's promising.

00:17:51.900 I mean, that's a good thing.

00:17:53.780 In fact, I would say that due to the dialogue on Twitter, more people are talking about flat

00:18:00.780 earth than I've ever been subjected to.

00:18:03.840 And it's spilling over into real life.

00:18:05.980 Mm-hmm.

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00:18:20.100 Hashtag make a play.

00:18:21.520 Yeah, real life.

00:18:23.820 I just saw a thing the other day that in, I know it's 2023, so it's two years ago, but

00:18:28.040 that like one-sixth of young people in France believe the earth is flat.

00:18:32.660 It's something like 20% in Brazil.

00:18:35.420 It's extremely high.

00:18:37.480 So people are waking up to it, man, because it's based on your senses.

00:18:42.880 So let me just ask you two questions.

00:18:45.500 Have you ever seen the curvature with your own eyes?

00:18:47.840 Legitimately, have you ever seen it, being honest?

00:18:49.780 I thought that I did until I realized that the windows in a plane have like contoured

00:18:56.560 edges, so it creates like almost like a fisheye lens.

00:19:00.700 So outside of that, no, no, I have not.

00:19:03.500 And then the second is, other than if you've ever been in an earthquake, have you ever felt

00:19:07.860 the earth move?

00:19:09.600 Oh, no, definitely.

00:19:10.420 In fact, when I was in an earthquake, it was so foreign that I didn't know what was, I

00:19:16.800 mean, that goes to show you.

00:19:18.320 It's funny, you feel the earth move, but only when you're inebriated or you're like high on

00:19:25.000 something, then you're like, but are you really perceiving what's happening or are you perceiving

00:19:29.960 like this, uh, maybe it's wrong, but over here it's not.

00:19:36.340 Well, I can jump, uh, pretty high.

00:19:38.560 Uh, in fact, I have a 47 inch vertical and, um, and I know that when I jump, I have to calculate

00:19:43.540 for when I'm going to land because if I try to land in the same spot, I'll actually fall

00:19:48.120 backwards.

00:19:48.500 Cause it's kind of, he's the type of dude that will do like, he'll just be like, and just

00:19:52.420 do like a random front flipping.

00:19:53.960 You're like, don't do that.

00:19:54.780 And then let me tell you, nobody ever likes it.

00:19:56.300 This is Aldi's wearing Aldi's.

00:19:57.540 Nobody ever likes it when I do a front flip.

00:19:59.040 But you keep doing it.

00:20:00.260 Well, look, man, if you could do a front flip, wouldn't you do it sometimes?

00:20:05.040 Okay.

00:20:05.540 You got me, dude.

00:20:06.380 Honestly, because if I could do a front flip, I would.

00:20:08.760 You're right.

00:20:09.200 Let me tell you, it's not worth it.

00:20:10.240 Don't learn how to, because absolutely nobody, people actually try to pretend they didn't

00:20:13.680 see it.

00:20:14.540 That's not going to happen anyway.

00:20:16.140 Can I say one thing?

00:20:17.760 Can I say one thing to the globe?

00:20:19.640 Go ahead.

00:20:20.420 Whoever they are.

00:20:23.020 I compare that to people who thinks a man is a woman.

00:20:27.400 Okay.

00:20:28.040 It's not confirmed by reality that that dude is a woman.

00:20:31.980 Same goes with the globe.

00:20:34.140 It's not confirmed in reality that it's a curve, yet you believe it is.

00:20:39.480 It's similar to those who believe a man can be a woman.

00:20:43.820 Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

00:20:45.060 Yeah.

00:20:45.380 That's the biggest part of it.

00:20:46.800 And that's why so many people ask.

00:20:48.620 Because reality tells you it's flat, man.

00:20:50.720 It's plain.

00:20:51.840 The number one tells you, or the number one reason is to try to hide God.

00:20:56.440 That's what they want to do.

00:20:57.200 They want to make you feel like it's just, you're a speck on a spinning ball, an infinite

00:21:03.360 nothingness that came from nothingness exploding.

00:21:06.420 And now here you are and you'll be gone one day.

00:21:09.200 And there must be other life forms out there because there's so much and all that.

00:21:13.020 But the second one is if they can get you to believe that you're on a spinning ball when

00:21:19.180 you've never seen a curve and never felt the earth move, they can convince you of anything like men being women.

00:21:26.300 Yes, it's the same concept.

00:21:27.460 And all of it is, it's backed by like this false intellectual superiority.

00:21:31.900 So, you know, with the whole men being women thing, they'll try to get into like the chromosome conversation or whatever.

00:21:40.800 What's interesting is sometimes they'll say that they have the wrong spirit in the wrong body, which is odd because most of the people that would say that don't believe in God.

00:21:49.800 So I'm like, I don't know what you're getting at.

00:21:51.520 It's like you believe in a spirit, but you don't believe in God.

00:21:55.680 But but with the flat earth situation, it's just it's it's really backed by like, you know, there's a preexisting body of research that people will reference to people who haven't done the research themselves will reference it.

00:22:09.520 And then when you don't believe in that research or you say something like, well, this isn't anything that you've actually ever observed yourself.

00:22:15.920 You've never done these experiments.

00:22:17.040 You can't actually prove it.

00:22:18.240 You've not done the legwork.

00:22:20.040 Then they just kind of laugh at you and they go, look at this.

00:22:22.380 You know what I mean?

00:22:23.180 And that's where the conversation starts or stops, rather, which I'm sure you've run into quite a bit.

00:22:28.760 But we're in I don't want to say a new landscape, but we're in an interesting place because not long ago and we were just talking about this on a recent recent show with Sean.

00:22:39.520 Of Kingdom in Context.

00:22:41.160 And we were talking about this idea of the final experiment, which is admittedly something that I haven't looked at very much because, well, to be honest, I haven't looked at the flat earth thing very much since my early days on Twitter.

00:22:54.080 It's like it it got not infiltrated, but so many voices entered the arena.

00:23:01.580 It's it's similar to the the JQ stuff.

00:23:05.080 Yeah, I think with like the the size that it's at.

00:23:09.520 Or at least the size when we were like jumping in, I was like, whoa, like there's a lot of people in this pool and everyone's kind of like touching tics and stuff.

00:23:17.880 No, it was just there was a lot going on.

00:23:20.640 Nothing wrong with it at all.

00:23:22.480 We're not saying.

00:23:22.980 No, if you're into that.

00:23:23.820 Yeah, it's just it's fine.

00:23:25.100 I'm not gay, by the way.

00:23:26.660 I'm just saying.

00:23:27.140 Well, I mean, I should have led with that.

00:23:30.500 I mean, I do think.

00:23:32.160 Yeah, it's similar to the to the whole Jewish thing, because a lot of people want to contribute and there's a lot of information.

00:23:39.260 And the problem is it's like when you're dealing with the floodgates opening and that much information coming through, some of its bullshit, some of its not helping the the side that's trying to prove out the truth, but is claiming to be in alignment, which, you know, some people claim that's what happened with the final experiment.

00:23:56.060 It's like the idea that they oh, it's Cheney.

00:23:58.300 Hi, Cheney.

00:23:58.780 Hi, Cheney.

00:23:59.440 I love her so much.

00:24:00.840 She's awesome.

00:24:01.660 Yeah, he's awesome.

00:24:02.680 We're going to have her back on.

00:24:03.480 We're going to have her in in studio.

00:24:05.460 By the way, one of the last episodes we did with her was like one of the highest rate.

00:24:09.260 People love Cheney.

00:24:10.400 She's awesome.

00:24:10.920 She crushes.

00:24:11.460 She does crush.

00:24:12.020 We're a lesbian.

00:24:12.540 She crushes.

00:24:12.940 We're a lesbian.

00:24:13.520 That's right.

00:24:14.260 I mean, a lesbian.

00:24:15.820 Lesbian's can crush, too.

00:24:17.120 To whom I owe all of my sense of fashion, too.

00:24:20.140 Let's just say.

00:24:21.180 I mean, here lies the problem.

00:24:24.120 Well, actually, I don't see it as a problem at all.

00:24:27.660 So I think Raven looks gayer than me, right?

00:24:30.840 Probably.

00:24:31.400 It's close.

00:24:33.000 Hey, hey, you trying to come for my crown?

00:24:35.320 Yeah, I am.

00:24:36.980 You trying to dethrone the king?

00:24:38.220 This is why I immediately was like, when they came on, I was a little off put by it because

00:24:43.200 I was like, I see what you're doing the same thing we do.

00:24:45.280 It's too much me.

00:24:46.340 No, Ted saw.

00:24:47.660 He saw the formula.

00:24:48.780 Yeah, he's like, I need to get a faggot.

00:24:50.760 Yeah.

00:24:51.260 And he was like, just copy the formula.

00:24:53.420 I need a retarded faggot on the show.

00:24:58.420 Honestly, you cannot put a cap on how endearing we are.

00:25:02.260 All right.

00:25:02.500 We may be difficult to work with, but people find us endearing.

00:25:04.920 I'm just saying, just ask next time.

00:25:06.880 I would have said yeah.

00:25:08.200 But, you know.

00:25:09.220 It's not our formula.

00:25:10.760 We didn't pioneer it.

00:25:12.620 No, but the stuff about the flat earth, like it got out of control.

00:25:16.040 You have like the documentary where the guy's like, we've got flat earth people around

00:25:19.160 the globe and then it, you know, they did such a great job.

00:25:22.820 What don't they infiltrate though?

00:25:25.040 Exactly.

00:25:25.280 What don't they fucking infiltrate?

00:25:26.560 They infiltrate everything.

00:25:28.020 So that's what they're going to do.

00:25:29.480 And it's flooded.

00:25:30.320 And people like Jaren, which you brought up and get into, like, honestly, when I, 10 years

00:25:36.680 ago, I never would have thought I'm here.

00:25:37.900 So I can't tell you how I would act in a certain situation, but I can't see seeing truth and

00:25:43.700 then turning your back on it.

00:25:45.060 Like, unless, unless you can go, okay, I finally measured, measured curvature.

00:25:50.680 I'm out, dude.

00:25:51.480 I'm fucking out.

00:25:52.440 I don't care what your light in the sky says.

00:25:54.460 But anyway, sorry.

00:25:55.500 Well, there was this time where they used to have a stranglehold on like this idea of

00:25:59.440 the curvature per square mile.

00:26:01.080 And then what ended up happening is we developed cameras that allowed us to zoom in and see

00:26:05.620 much further than we previously could.

00:26:08.060 And what we were finding was like beyond the horizon where the bottom of a ship should

00:26:13.040 be, you know, imperceivable, or let's say a landmass across a body of water should certainly

00:26:17.780 be imperceivable.

00:26:18.920 And if you could perceive it, you would only be able to see from a certain point on a building

00:26:23.560 upward.

00:26:24.580 Well, all of a sudden they're, they're finding that you could zoom in and see the ground floor.

00:26:28.880 You could zoom in and see the bottom of the ship still.

00:26:31.740 And so at the very least, somebody somewhere was forced to say, well, our equation for curvature

00:26:37.400 per square mile has to be reassessed.

00:26:39.960 Um, and, and that was probably some of the earlier things that I saw that made me go,

00:26:43.780 oh man, you know, I don't know what, if it's, you get so lost in intellectual superiority that

00:26:48.820 you go, I think we've nailed it once we write down the equation and there's no reason to

00:26:53.820 revisit it, or if this is more nefarious.

00:26:55.600 And then of course, when you start coupling that with NASA's research and, or not even

00:26:59.460 research, but NASA's proclamations of what they claim to be the truth, you find out very

00:27:03.520 quickly that that that's not the case.

00:27:04.900 So my question is, can you talk about, uh, the final experiment?

00:27:10.160 What did they set out to do?

00:27:11.960 And what is your take on it?

00:27:14.280 They set out to deceive people.

00:27:16.200 I would imagine, but not from just a, like, they don't agree with me.

00:27:19.720 So there's tons of videos that shit looks weird.

00:27:23.720 Shadows are off.

00:27:24.720 They're walking through snow, but footprints aren't appearing behind them.

00:27:28.400 Even though you see footprints in the snow and other places, there's times when people

00:27:33.080 were caught faking their breath with a vape and other times you're in Antarctica, but you

00:27:38.620 don't have a vape.

00:27:39.620 There's a picture of them in front of a mountain and it's all of them, supposedly some of them

00:27:44.040 with their shirts off and all this.

00:27:45.620 But then someone found another picture where the mountain has the same exact snow melts

00:27:50.740 and areas exposed and other ones.

00:27:52.980 Like, it's totally fucking faked in some way, but-

00:27:56.440 Wait, wait, wait.

00:27:56.720 So, so I want to ask you about that.

00:27:58.560 Yeah.

00:27:58.800 Because that's, that's important.

00:27:59.920 And I did see that.

00:28:01.060 That mountain that they found, was that in a different geographical location?

00:28:05.820 And somebody was saying, look, this is, uh, you know, it was, it was, it was a mountain

00:28:13.820 in Antarctica, but it had the same exact melted snow patterns from someone's picture from

00:28:20.700 years ago.

00:28:21.240 So picture a mountain's covered in snow and then certain sections melt, you know, randomly.

00:28:28.040 Yes.

00:28:28.600 But, but all of it was exactly the same, like where the curves went down all, not just saying,

00:28:34.520 oh, it's close.

00:28:35.040 No, it was, it was the same fucking mountain.

00:28:37.200 So that picture of them in front of that mountain, there's no way that that's the same one or it's

00:28:42.340 not the same one taken from the same picture.

00:28:44.500 So, yeah, I I've seen that just for the audience sake.

00:28:46.720 Like I've seen that image and it's undoubtedly, there's like four or five reference points

00:28:51.640 on the face of that mountain that you can match exactly to the mountain that was in the

00:28:56.120 photo of the, of the, you know, the final, uh, experiment.

00:28:59.240 So, and I said, that's awfully strange.

00:29:02.200 Okay.

00:29:02.600 So let me, let me just tell you this.

00:29:04.600 The name is also suspicious.

00:29:06.180 Final experiment.

00:29:07.500 That's one thing.

00:29:08.920 It's not final and it wasn't really an experiment.

00:29:11.620 It was an observation.

00:29:12.960 What did they do to experiment?

00:29:14.700 They stood there and looked at the sky.

00:29:16.100 That's not an experiment, but let's say.

00:29:19.480 Well, what was the idea, uh, just for clarification purposes, they were going to watch the sun?

00:29:23.740 Well, it should there, there shouldn't be technically from what most people believe because the way

00:29:30.340 the flat earth is set up that the sun goes around the outside, the North pole is the same.

00:29:35.760 It's laid out flat, but so the sun would go around the outside.

00:29:39.880 So in Antarctica, you shouldn't be able to see the sun for 24 hours.

00:29:44.600 Like you can at the North pole when it moves up high, cause it's moving around.

00:29:49.420 So you see it go up and down.

00:29:50.860 If it's a flat plane and it's going around, you should never be able to see the sun for

00:29:56.040 24 hours.

00:29:57.100 Okay.

00:29:57.980 And before that, believe it or not, until they went, there's never been a legitimate video

00:30:03.440 of it happening ever.

00:30:05.300 Everyone from the Antarctic stations would show it and there'd be time clips missing and then

00:30:09.740 it would show back up and there's all this shit.

00:30:12.100 And I can't tell you what it is and I can't even tell you that they saw it, but just because

00:30:18.720 you, even if you did go there and see, which a lot of the footage is bullshit, clearly bullshit.

00:30:24.180 And if it's a real experiment, why do you have to fake any, just like NASA, if you fake one

00:30:28.380 thing, you're faking it all.

00:30:29.700 But even if they did see what they claimed to see, which is we saw the sun for 24 hours

00:30:38.080 in Antarctica.

00:30:39.500 Okay.

00:30:40.120 Right.

00:30:40.400 I have a few questions for you.

00:30:43.800 What do helium and hydrogen do here on earth?

00:30:46.720 If you fill a balloon with helium, what happens?

00:30:49.140 It floats.

00:30:50.380 Goes up, right?

00:30:52.020 Goes away from the earth.

00:30:54.520 So at what point and how much helium and hydrogen would you have to have in order for it to start

00:31:00.180 creating gravity and pulling things towards it?

00:31:03.720 Cause here they just float out and expand to whatever area they're in, but our sun saying

00:31:10.080 that the sun is filled with or helium and hydrogen and it's enough gravity to hold all the planets

00:31:17.980 in orbit.

00:31:19.760 So if anything we can prove here on earth is that if you let helium out with no container,

00:31:25.760 it just disperses.

00:31:26.900 So at what point do you get enough gas to where it collapses on itself and starts holding

00:31:33.160 planets in?

00:31:34.660 How does that happen?

00:31:35.940 Well, that's that intellectual superiority.

00:31:37.880 That's I imagine required.

00:31:39.380 If you are going to deceive people on that kind of a level where you go, what do you mean?

00:31:42.620 You don't understand that?

00:31:43.420 Cause I don't understand it.

00:31:44.420 I can't claim to understand it, but I know that if I said that to somebody in a coffee shop,

00:31:48.500 they'd look at me like I was retarded.

00:31:50.160 So, so I know it seems like it's off subject, but my point is no matter what they're seeing

00:31:56.080 in the sky, I know it's not a burning ball of gas in a vacuum because we know that's

00:32:02.660 not possible.

00:32:03.940 How do you burn gas without oxygen?

00:32:06.440 They say our sun is a burning ball of hydrogen and helium that holds all the planets in and

00:32:11.340 it's burning in a vacuum, which has no oxygen.

00:32:14.580 How do you burn a fire with no oxygen?

00:32:17.640 How does that happen?

00:32:19.000 And how does it burn for millions of years?

00:32:21.600 It's weird because you just kind of go like, these are the laws of physics within our,

00:32:26.940 you know, uh, on our planet.

00:32:29.940 Um, but once you scale up, then none of it matters anymore.

00:32:33.380 It's not, it's not even once you scale up, it's a defined line.

00:32:38.100 It's when you go from physics to astrophysics.

00:32:42.700 Once you cross over into astrophysics, even what's his fucking name?

00:32:47.660 I hate that dude, the Asian dude.

00:32:49.060 Neil deGrasse Tyson.

00:32:50.200 Oh, Michi Wakaku.

00:32:51.720 Yes, Michi Wakaku.

00:32:52.960 He even says that they're 10 to the 20th power off on cosmology and it's okay.

00:32:58.640 That means they don't know a fucking thing.

00:33:01.480 So what they're telling you is complete and total nonsense.

00:33:05.820 So astrophysics is totally different.

00:33:09.780 The planetary Jews got him.

00:33:11.860 I'm here.

00:33:12.300 I'm back.

00:33:13.000 That's all right.

00:33:13.060 Wait for him to come back.

00:33:14.240 Yeah, I mean, oh, there he goes.

00:33:15.740 Okay, sorry, the planetary Jews, uh, the ball earth Jews got to you.

00:33:19.500 And, uh, so what were you saying?

00:33:21.800 I don't know.

00:33:22.460 Where'd I cut out?

00:33:23.800 Uh, you were saying that Michi Wakaku said that you're off by 10,000.

00:33:27.560 What?

00:33:28.440 10 to the 20th power or something.

00:33:30.400 So that's 10 with like tons of fucking zeros.

00:33:34.880 That's a lot of zeros.

00:33:35.820 Too much for you to grasp.

00:33:37.100 And in the video, when it shows it, it covers the whole fucking screen.

00:33:40.020 And he says it so.

00:33:40.920 And he's saying off, off in, in, in what way?

00:33:43.720 In every way, in all of, in their measurement.

00:33:47.320 No, I, I'm not joking, dude.

00:33:49.060 In every way, their measurements, like how to, like, how, okay.

00:33:52.580 If all these stars are at light years, different distances, and they're completely and totally

00:33:57.760 different sizes, why do they all look relatively the same in our sky?

00:34:02.400 Why do they look roughly the same size in the same distance?

00:34:05.380 How is that?

00:34:07.100 How the fuck does that happen, man?

00:34:08.500 That's like when you have, uh, eclipses and you go like, yeah, well, the, the moon from

00:34:13.280 this, you know, point of reference ends up being exactly the size that you would need

00:34:17.820 to perfectly eclipse the sun, despite it being astronomically farther.

00:34:22.640 But then that, this also puts into, it puts into question, what exactly are these things?

00:34:26.740 Like, are they stars?

00:34:28.920 Because they tell you that they're explosions of gas millions of miles away, but.

00:34:33.100 That don't even exist anymore, by the way.

00:34:34.720 Like, these are just the lights that we're seeing from something that happened trillions

00:34:38.100 of years ago.

00:34:38.840 Yeah.

00:34:39.100 So ridiculous.

00:34:40.320 Eddie Bravo had a, uh, cool theory.

00:34:43.020 Uh, he said that all those fucking stars are your external soul, you know, like the player

00:34:49.280 outside of the video game.

00:34:51.300 Oh, that's interesting.

00:34:52.680 We're all linked to each, you know, each star, whatever.

00:34:56.260 Maybe the real people and then all the NPCs are filled in in between.

00:34:59.300 Yeah.

00:34:59.740 Cause.

00:35:00.340 Yeah, there's a theory.

00:35:01.940 Huh?

00:35:02.480 Go ahead.

00:35:03.060 No, go ahead.

00:35:03.460 There's a theory that there, you know, if, if there is 8 billion people, that not all

00:35:09.680 8 billion people have real souls.

00:35:12.060 That is the number of real souls are way less.

00:35:15.960 There's not 8 billion people, but yeah.

00:35:17.760 You want to know something funny, man?

00:35:19.460 Let's say it was.

00:35:20.560 The previous episode that we just did about 30 minutes ago, it was on, uh, man, what's

00:35:25.140 this guy's name?

00:35:26.580 Uh, Tyler.

00:35:27.340 Which just happened, honestly.

00:35:28.640 Oh, Tyler.

00:35:29.320 Daddy junkie.

00:35:30.280 No, no, not.

00:35:30.720 I know Tyler Yankee, but we were talking about, uh, the Jewish guy who killed the young girl.

00:35:35.940 Oh, dude.

00:35:36.760 I don't remember that Jew's name.

00:35:37.820 That's, that's why you can't remember.

00:35:39.860 There's so many.

00:35:40.360 Yeah.

00:35:40.560 It's just, it's the same thing over and over.

00:35:42.260 But anyway, the pencil company that he worked for and the girl worked for was a national

00:35:48.400 pencil company, NPC.

00:35:50.460 And I was like, I just find that's, that's serendipitous.

00:35:52.940 See, thank God somebody, people that watch the show, it's, uh, Leo Frank.

00:35:56.520 Leo Frank.

00:35:57.140 Thank you, Chad.

00:35:57.720 Thank you.

00:35:58.060 I think there, I should know, but we did the episode.

00:36:00.480 I don't know.

00:36:00.780 It's just like when you get locked into a different mode.

00:36:02.620 For me, everything else goes out the window.

00:36:05.360 Oh, yeah.

00:36:05.760 You have to go to comment.

00:36:06.320 I had to click.

00:36:07.120 Okay.

00:36:07.740 Yeah, there you go.

00:36:08.720 Evie Mux.

00:36:09.820 You gotta use Evie Mux.

00:36:10.940 Oh, I'm not Evie Mux.

00:36:12.140 You don't have to click the thing.

00:36:13.320 Very sorry.

00:36:14.280 Um, so, so, okay.

00:36:16.820 All right.

00:36:17.000 Let's, let's bring it back to this, this final experiment.

00:36:19.500 Um, and I think we're, let's let it run a little bit longer today.

00:36:22.500 Can we do that work?

00:36:23.720 Uh, for the porous.

00:36:26.940 It's like, no, man.

00:36:27.820 For the porous.

00:36:28.480 We'll let the, we'll let the porous watch a little bit longer.

00:36:30.020 Um, uh, so let's go back to the final experiment.

00:36:32.500 So they set out to, to observe the sun and it, it, it shouldn't have been perceivable,

00:36:37.220 uh, in a 24 hour period consistently.

00:36:40.500 Uh, and then it was who, who, who went down and this isn't, this isn't to be smirched these

00:36:46.240 people because I don't really know what's going on.

00:36:48.640 Like I know Austin Witsit was one of the guys that was supposed to go down.

00:36:51.780 He was supposed to come on the show.

00:36:53.800 Um, afterwards he seems a little demoralized.

00:36:55.900 He's, he's gone away.

00:36:57.500 I, you know, I don't, I'm not trying to trash these people.

00:37:00.020 In any way, shape or form, but, but who, who went down?

00:37:02.260 Who are these people?

00:37:04.120 Well, it was supposed to be half people who believed in flat earth and half people who

00:37:07.960 believe in the globe.

00:37:08.760 So it was McToon, which is hate that dude.

00:37:12.200 Um, it was, uh, Witsit did go.

00:37:15.680 Jaron went.

00:37:16.640 And honestly, I don't even know the, Oh, uh, Will Duffy, the pastor.

00:37:20.320 That's a half a fag, you know, and lies about a bunch of others.

00:37:24.540 Oh my God.

00:37:25.200 Why would we say that about Will?

00:37:26.560 Who's Will Duffy?

00:37:27.400 Why is he half a fag?

00:37:28.600 Oh my God.

00:37:29.800 Cause he's not all the way there yet, I guess.

00:37:31.440 But anyway, no, he just, he just says shit.

00:37:34.860 And like, anyway, he, he's, uh, he's been charged with violations in the past for ripping

00:37:42.400 people off and all this stuff.

00:37:43.860 And then he started a church and used God to do it.

00:37:46.860 And then somehow has all this money to fly everyone to Antarctica to look at this and

00:37:51.820 certain people that didn't go that were offered said there was a lot of weird stipulations and

00:37:56.800 all this, but nobody's posted any contracts.

00:37:59.140 So again, my thing is we all talk about all the time.

00:38:03.180 You can't trust anything you see on TV.

00:38:05.000 You don't know these people.

00:38:05.960 Well, guess what?

00:38:06.400 I don't know a single one of these motherfuckers.

00:38:09.020 I don't know.

00:38:09.420 I know you better than I know any of them.

00:38:12.320 And we've met one time in real life.

00:38:14.340 So I don't know that they went, I don't know what they recorded and what they did, but I

00:38:19.060 do know there are things that even if what they are saying is true and they did see what

00:38:25.100 they claim they saw, which I personally don't believe, but even if they did, there's still

00:38:30.020 many hurdles you have to overcome before you can make me believe we live on a spinning ball

00:38:35.900 with a pressurized atmosphere adjacent to a 10 to the, or 17 to the 10th power negative

00:38:42.420 tor fucking vacuum, which is impossible.

00:38:44.500 I don't even know what that means.

00:38:45.400 See, that's what they do.

00:38:46.260 They just say things that you don't know what they mean.

00:38:48.500 Wizard work.

00:38:48.960 They make it up.

00:38:49.540 Yeah.

00:38:50.280 They make it up.

00:38:50.980 Wizard words.

00:38:52.080 Wizard words.

00:38:52.440 From the time you were a little child, fucking mobile above your bed with the planets.

00:38:57.900 You know what's funny about that?

00:38:58.780 Astronauts on Sesame Street.

00:39:00.700 I was in Walmart yesterday and I was passing by the kids' clothing section and like on the

00:39:06.540 t-shirts, the graphic t-shirts.

00:39:07.760 How much did this stuff fit you?

00:39:08.720 All of it.

00:39:09.420 But it's like.

00:39:12.320 That's not the point.

00:39:14.020 Can't get it over my head.

00:39:15.140 A little loose, but it fits.

00:39:17.240 So there's dinosaurs and then there's planets.

00:39:22.200 There's dinosaurs, planets, dinosaurs, planets.

00:39:24.160 Both are bullshit.

00:39:25.480 And now mushroom.

00:39:26.560 They like to do the mushrooms now.

00:39:27.980 That's like the thing that's also included.

00:39:29.300 Don't you have some stupid mushroom thing I saw the other day?

00:39:31.600 Yeah, doggy.

00:39:32.100 They're like, what, shorts.

00:39:34.600 Oh yeah, shorts with mustard.

00:39:35.820 I didn't buy them.

00:39:36.820 You did.

00:39:37.080 But they're on everything.

00:39:38.060 So it's like, what are you guys after?

00:39:39.800 I don't know what they're after, but you see those things in conjunction a lot.

00:39:41.480 Mushrooms are real at least.

00:39:42.960 These mushrooms are real.

00:39:44.340 That's true.

00:39:45.360 But there's an ink.

00:39:46.400 He's like, Vince is like, I'm on them right now.

00:39:50.480 You motherfucker.

00:39:51.580 How did you know?

00:39:52.220 There's a weird interconnectivity between mushrooms, aliens, outer space, dinosaurs, and the globe

00:40:01.040 earth.

00:40:01.460 These things all run in a direct line.

00:40:04.400 And once you pull the plug on one of them, they all start to kind of fall.

00:40:09.380 Flat earth, when I started looking at it and taking it serious in that manner, I was like,

00:40:14.120 whoa, dinosaurs aren't really a thing.

00:40:17.220 They do these things, like Ted is alluding to, it's like they get you when you're really

00:40:21.480 little, and they indoctrinate you.

00:40:23.800 Well, they get my kids, and it's like, what am I supposed to tell my kids?

00:40:27.300 Dinosaur shit's really cool.

00:40:28.660 Well, you know what you tell them?

00:40:29.560 You say, put that axolotl down.

00:40:31.560 That's about transhumanism.

00:40:33.080 I try.

00:40:33.680 That's what you tell them.

00:40:34.420 Right now, they're pushing.

00:40:35.940 There's probably a lot of parents listening to this.

00:40:37.700 You might find that your kid is obsessed with axolotls.

00:40:40.340 Vince likes this.

00:40:41.280 He's just doing this.

00:40:42.260 I want to say something to this after he's done.

00:40:45.240 Well, I'll make it quick then.

00:40:46.640 The axolotl, they're just trying to look into its regenerative capabilities, and they're

00:40:51.100 trying to figure out how to take that sort of genetic structure and apply it to human

00:40:54.880 beings so that we have, you know, whatever longevity.

00:40:56.960 But it's all about transhumanism.

00:40:59.400 It's about transcending our mortal form, figuring out how to live forever in some way, shape,

00:41:04.320 or form.

00:41:04.680 And right now, the axolotl is at the center of their research.

00:41:08.980 And then all of a sudden, they're like, you know what?

00:41:10.360 Let's inject it into, and I think that probably means that it's viable in some way, and they

00:41:14.100 want children, because in generations to come, they're going to go, hey, yeah, sure, these

00:41:19.260 injections that we give you, they're a little bit weird.

00:41:22.440 But like, we got it from the axolotl, baby.

00:41:24.360 You guys remember the axolotl?

00:41:25.560 How cute is it?

00:41:26.520 It's so cute.

00:41:27.440 And so they do that.

00:41:28.840 They prime the kids with it.

00:41:29.760 So to that point, if the Earth is really a globe, why would you need to push it on the

00:41:37.580 toddlers and the little kids?

00:41:40.100 What use do they have to know that it's a globe?

00:41:43.200 They don't understand on that level yet, all right?

00:41:45.880 And also retards.

00:41:47.340 Yeah.

00:41:48.000 So why would you push the fucking globe in their face, right?

00:41:51.920 Unless you have to brainwash their hard drive deeply from the get-go.

00:41:58.820 I believe, you know, when you're a kid, everything you learn, it gets, what do you call it?

00:42:04.940 Scrapped into the hard drive way deeper than when you get older.

00:42:09.800 Yeah.

00:42:11.720 Because if they don't do that, then the kids will be like, no, I don't believe this is a

00:42:16.460 curve.

00:42:16.820 I don't see any curve.

00:42:17.760 I see flatness, you know?

00:42:18.960 So they need to put that in when they're young.

00:42:21.600 That's what I think.

00:42:23.380 Yeah.

00:42:23.840 We get into that idea with MK Ultra programming and, I mean, you know, our idea about the

00:42:29.720 telepathy tapes.

00:42:30.600 But all this stuff, the schedule, we're not going to say what it is.

00:42:34.140 The schedule.

00:42:34.420 There's a certain schedule.

00:42:35.220 The schedule.

00:42:36.200 That we're subjected to when we're little.

00:42:38.120 But it's got to start when you're young.

00:42:40.380 And even, you know, SRA survivors, this stuff starts, yeah, you know, the SRA stuff starts

00:42:47.000 at conception, almost.

00:42:49.400 Yeah.

00:42:49.460 So they're carving these neural pathways within your brain so that way they can program in

00:42:54.100 a certain way.

00:42:55.200 The round earth stuff is actually kind of light considering all the techniques that they've

00:43:01.280 implemented.

00:43:03.040 When I'm talking about that, like, air of intellectual superiority, that comes from the experts.

00:43:09.220 And the mockery comes from the people who have been indoctrinated since childhood.

00:43:12.840 Because when you're faced with something that breaks the paradigm that you were subjected

00:43:17.360 to from babyhood, your only reaction is...

00:43:21.400 Is babyhood a word?

00:43:22.840 Babyhood.

00:43:23.540 Okay.

00:43:24.020 It is now.

00:43:24.560 Since babyhood.

00:43:26.480 And I'm sure Ted gets this all the time.

00:43:28.980 And probably you too, Vince, now that you're, you know, on X engaging with these ideas,

00:43:33.340 you either get mockery or you get people pretty angry.

00:43:37.260 Because you're threatening a thing.

00:43:39.360 So it's like, if they don't perceive you as a threat, then they're going to laugh at

00:43:43.040 you.

00:43:43.340 But if they perceive you as a threat, then they're going to get upset with you.

00:43:47.260 So that's probably the two main things that you're going to end up dealing with.

00:43:50.060 And anybody who's in the conspiracy realm disseminating risque ideas is going to be the

00:43:55.960 recipient of either mockery or somebody that's, like, irrationally pissed off.

00:44:00.240 You go like, damn, dude, why are you so mad right now?

00:44:02.500 I'm just telling you, like, have you ever seen it curve, dog?

00:44:06.240 Yeah.

00:44:06.540 If you were seriously, if you just thought we were stupid, you would pass the post by

00:44:11.820 and keep going on to something you enjoy.

00:44:14.160 There's something that, like, when your soul hears something that it knows is true, but

00:44:20.680 you want to deny it, you get triggered by it.

00:44:23.440 Like, it's like if someone tells you something bad about yourself that you know isn't true,

00:44:27.820 you're fine with it.

00:44:28.620 Like, this dude's a fucking idiot.

00:44:29.860 I'm clearly not that.

00:44:30.980 But if they tell you something you know is true, it fucking triggers the fuck out of

00:44:34.720 you because you know they're right.

00:44:36.020 So that's why they have to stop and comment.

00:44:39.060 And I love pointing that out all the time.

00:44:41.480 And that's why they get so pissed, too.

00:44:43.480 It's like, why are you so angry?

00:44:45.420 I mean, you claim you sit on the truth.

00:44:47.740 You should be calm.

00:44:49.040 You know, you should be like, ah, these are retards.

00:44:51.020 Let me move on.

00:44:52.040 They don't get it.

00:44:52.880 The earth is a globe.

00:44:53.820 But you know what I realized?

00:44:55.200 These piece of shit people, they're either NPCs, agent smiths, or energy vampires.

00:45:01.200 I think the most certain thing is that they are energy vampires.

00:45:05.720 So you have to tell them, listen, I will feed you when I want to, hater.

00:45:10.460 Okay?

00:45:10.980 You are here to rile me up so I can feed you back, you know, like a feedback loop.

00:45:16.400 They want to suck your energy.

00:45:17.840 But I want to say this.

00:45:18.720 This is a very important thing.

00:45:20.020 I don't know if you guys know, but I have implemented a thing to myself where I am the

00:45:25.940 jester, okay?

00:45:28.360 No.

00:45:29.040 I did this.

00:45:29.820 Yes.

00:45:30.960 You didn't make it obvious at all.

00:45:33.000 No, I'm kidding.

00:45:33.900 I did this with my debate with FTFE.

00:45:36.540 I ripped his asshole apart because there is a scar with my name on his asshole forever.

00:45:43.760 Because, you know, I don't know if you know who FTFE is.

00:45:46.920 Fight the fatter.

00:45:47.480 Yeah, that guy is a piece of shit.

00:45:50.300 I don't know if he's a piece of shit, but he's very gay.

00:45:53.500 He's a geek lord.

00:45:54.780 He's a geek lord.

00:45:55.580 Yeah, he's very whiny and he's very soft.

00:45:58.700 And Raven, let me tell you this.

00:46:00.400 Yeah.

00:46:00.920 When I did the debate with him, his tactic is just like the haters.

00:46:05.620 To call you names and make you feel bad and ashamed.

00:46:09.980 Yeah, geek lord.

00:46:10.960 Super.

00:46:11.440 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:13.360 This guy.

00:46:13.640 Yes.

00:46:14.060 Is this the guy here?

00:46:15.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:16.100 You should watch my debate.

00:46:17.700 Listen.

00:46:18.340 He wished death on Vince.

00:46:20.180 He wished death on you.

00:46:21.840 Yes.

00:46:22.080 He wished death on me.

00:46:24.480 Yeah, this guy.

00:46:25.660 The guy picking his nose.

00:46:27.360 Yeah, why don't you click on him?

00:46:28.280 I want to listen to him talk.

00:46:29.700 He sounds like.

00:46:30.260 I'm going to send you the link.

00:46:32.680 When he was on our podcast, he said assume like 20 times.

00:46:36.500 Assume.

00:46:36.960 I want to say that he sounds like he looks.

00:46:40.380 And I want to test that out.

00:46:41.740 So let's let her rip.

00:46:42.460 All right.

00:46:42.720 Really quick.

00:46:43.820 And his response was.

00:46:45.300 Fuck.

00:46:46.320 Yes.

00:46:46.640 Well, he's got to have the, you know, that, that, that, that, you know.

00:46:50.800 You can still hear him.

00:46:52.820 And I was like, well, that's not very nice.

00:46:57.280 Oh, I'll just get the attendant and ask them to get you to do it.

00:47:00.860 You know, could you please just wipe down your equipment?

00:47:02.680 Fuck off.

00:47:03.180 Go and get the attendant then.

00:47:04.800 So I went and got the attendant.

00:47:06.220 This guy, this guy's talking about COVID right now.

00:47:07.900 I don't know what he's talking about.

00:47:09.180 Oh, he's on COVID, bitch.

00:47:10.020 I got to say, in this day and age, if you have a faux hawk, you need to be power slapped to sleep.

00:47:16.500 And I'm not saying that I would do that or anybody I know would do that.

00:47:19.160 I'm just saying.

00:47:20.700 Because violence is that.

00:47:21.780 Lobster, in the private chat, I send you the link to my debate with him.

00:47:25.400 I'm wearing a jester hat in the debate.

00:47:29.200 Okay.

00:47:30.180 And this whole stream, he couldn't do his regular tactic.

00:47:35.560 I made him so pissed that he came on air and wished death on me.

00:47:42.580 And I was so happy when that happened because I set him up for it.

00:47:47.200 Okay.

00:47:47.560 Well, listen, listen.

00:47:48.440 Actually, before we do that, this would probably be a good time to kick the pores out.

00:47:52.460 Oh, yeah.

00:47:52.940 Do you want to do that now?

00:47:54.120 Yeah.

00:47:54.400 Let's get these guys out here.

00:47:55.520 I think we give them something.

00:47:56.520 We dangle something in front of them and then we go, nope, nope.

00:47:59.280 If you had money, you could have it.

00:48:00.880 Guys, you disgust me.

00:48:02.440 It's now 47 minutes in and we're going live exclusively to patreon.com forward slash Nephilim.

00:48:07.640 That's why if you want to continue watching, go over there rapidly.

00:48:10.660 Do it because we're about to watch whatever this is.

00:48:13.440 Otherwise, goodbye to you, you filthy pores.

00:48:17.120 All right.

00:48:18.660 Let's get into – I can see you wearing – it looks like – that is a jester's hat?

00:48:25.580 Okay.

00:48:26.020 Yes.

00:48:26.540 That is a jester's hat.

00:48:28.980 All right.

00:48:30.380 And what was the debate?

00:48:31.440 What was the debate?

00:48:32.060 This is just a run-of-the-mill flat earth debate?

00:48:34.460 Well, flat earth slash moon landing some bullshit.

00:48:38.160 Oh, tell me he doesn't think the moon landing was real.

00:48:40.440 Oh, he definitely thinks that.

00:48:42.400 That's very embarrassing.

00:48:43.420 Any particular spot we should go to?

00:48:45.040 Yes.

00:48:45.380 I got it ready here.

00:48:46.860 So, to get the context, you know, this whole thing –

00:48:50.360 It's a four hours and 40 minutes.

00:48:51.360 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:48:52.460 We're not – no, no, no, no, no.

00:48:54.020 The whole thing is great.

00:48:56.220 We go back and forth.

00:48:56.760 Did you stay with him for four hours?

00:48:58.500 Yeah, but listen.

00:48:59.360 What I want you to play, though, is the funny part where he said he wants me dead.

00:49:04.700 Huh?

00:49:05.140 Okay.

00:49:05.640 That's fine.

00:49:06.480 Hold on.

00:49:07.040 But you have to first play – let me just say this.

00:49:10.220 The stream ended officially, okay?

00:49:12.820 Yeah.

00:49:13.260 And then they play some music for the people that are still alive.

00:49:17.420 But we go backstage, okay?

00:49:19.460 So, we're still backstage, and we're still fighting backstage to the point where he's like –

00:49:26.280 he wishes death on me.

00:49:27.800 And I'm like, hold on.

00:49:29.720 Will you go back live and say that to the people?

00:49:33.040 He's like, yeah, I'll do it.

00:49:34.420 And the moderator is like, all right, I guess we go back live.

00:49:38.260 And then we did, and he said it.

00:49:40.380 So, I want you to go to 349.

00:49:44.160 I think that's when it closes – they close the stream officially.

00:49:47.820 Yeah, we can see, like, there's, like, a logo here.

00:49:50.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:50.560 So, okay.

00:49:52.240 So, we close down.

00:49:53.540 Immediately when that's done.

00:49:54.920 When that's done, we go back at 356.

00:49:59.300 Okay, 356.

00:50:00.500 Go to 356 then.

00:50:02.100 Yeah, 356.

00:50:03.420 I can't believe you did a four-hour debate.

00:50:07.000 Oh, that's nothing, man.

00:50:08.680 Dude, this dude streams for, like, 12 hours at a time.

00:50:11.180 What?

00:50:11.460 It's fucking ridiculous.

00:50:12.480 I know.

00:50:13.040 It's absurd.

00:50:14.220 It's fucking absurd.

00:50:15.260 No, no.

00:50:15.620 Listen.

00:50:16.220 You know –

00:50:16.540 Pause it, pause it, pause it.

00:50:19.240 Okay, all right.

00:50:20.060 We're back.

00:50:20.680 We're good to go.

00:50:21.440 Let's put this –

00:50:21.800 Yeah, now we've come back from backstage to live again.

00:50:25.920 I like your outfit.

00:50:26.780 It's a wonderful outfit.

00:50:27.340 You brought Freddie Mercury with you this time.

00:50:28.600 And Michael.

00:50:29.680 And Michael.

00:50:31.940 Dualistic, by the way.

00:50:32.900 Well, then we're back then, I suppose.

00:50:34.460 Go ahead and you can tell them exactly what just happened.

00:50:38.720 What are you saying, Craig?

00:50:40.760 Let's go back.

00:50:42.480 Are we back on stream?

00:50:43.480 We are.

00:50:44.080 What are you saying, Craig?

00:50:45.040 What's going on?

00:50:45.740 This has gotten –

00:50:46.820 Tell how bad I am.

00:50:49.160 Craig, tell how bad I am as a human.

00:50:51.460 I will.

00:50:51.840 I'll tell everyone right now because I said it on my stream, right?

00:50:55.140 Vince is nothing but a drain on humanity, a burden to society.

00:51:00.600 Genuinely, the only way that he could benefit and improve society is if he died.

00:51:06.620 I'm not telling him to kill himself or anything, but that is the genuine only way that he could

00:51:11.440 ever benefit humanity is if he was not part of it.

00:51:16.580 Dang.

00:51:17.980 What did you – why did you get him – why did you get him so mad?

00:51:20.440 Let's look at that.

00:51:21.260 Why so?

00:51:22.500 Okay, if you're positive.

00:51:23.240 I was pretty critical, guys.

00:51:23.980 I swear this is not what I was expecting.

00:51:27.320 You said, why did you make him so mad?

00:51:29.460 Why did you – yeah.

00:51:30.180 Why did you make Craig so mad?

00:51:31.540 Craig seems like a reasonable man.

00:51:33.400 No, because throughout the four years, none of his attacks really worked.

00:51:39.560 And I attacked back.

00:51:42.040 I called him a bunch of shit.

00:51:43.960 I'm like, shut up.

00:51:45.040 Shut up, cocksucker.

00:51:46.220 Like, shut the fuck up, geek lord.

00:51:47.780 Shut up.

00:51:48.240 It's my turn.

00:51:49.040 You keep talking over people.

00:51:50.560 It's my time to talk over you, motherfuckers.

00:51:52.140 Listen to me.

00:51:53.380 This is a Christian show.

00:51:54.580 Do it.

00:51:55.260 Oh, shit.

00:51:56.140 Take it easy.

00:51:56.980 I'm swearing.

00:51:57.880 This is not good.

00:51:58.880 I'm not comfortable.

00:51:59.520 Take it easy.

00:52:00.200 Reel it in.

00:52:00.680 Put it away.

00:52:01.980 Bring it down a notch, y'all.

00:52:03.740 Can we – you're like a 15.

00:52:06.000 Can we bring you to like a –

00:52:06.760 No, I appreciate the position.

00:52:07.440 No, all the words are fine, but geek lord is a bit too far.

00:52:10.180 That was the one that went too far.

00:52:11.360 I would appreciate.

00:52:12.580 I will just say I do believe in a creator, just not religion.

00:52:15.200 But continue.

00:52:15.820 Okay.

00:52:16.040 All right.

00:52:16.500 All right.

00:52:17.500 No, you continue.

00:52:18.780 Okay.

00:52:19.240 I know.

00:52:20.260 I basically –

00:52:21.020 Or else.

00:52:22.200 Listen, I basically bullied him back for four hours.

00:52:27.080 He does all the bullying usually on others.

00:52:30.200 He couldn't do it on me, and I think that was so frustrating for him

00:52:34.020 that he just went to that place where he's like, I want you dead.

00:52:38.520 This is weird, though, because isn't it super obvious that a man that looks like that

00:52:43.160 who's bullying people online is only doing that because he's been the recipient of brutal

00:52:48.680 levels of brutality, like bullying throughout his entire life?

00:52:51.720 I said that.

00:52:52.300 I said that to him.

00:52:54.680 This guy is like a walking pun.

00:52:56.680 I'm sorry.

00:52:57.300 I mean, it's just the entire screenshot here is just crazy.

00:53:00.900 It is a crazy screenshot.

00:53:03.020 Like, what am I looking at?

00:53:04.180 Look at how taken aback Freddie and Michael are.

00:53:06.820 Yeah, play it a little bit more.

00:53:08.220 Play it a little bit more.

00:53:08.960 All right.

00:53:09.160 They're upset.

00:53:09.980 They're shocked.

00:53:11.020 What's going on?

00:53:12.840 No, no.

00:53:13.480 Let it go, Ryan.

00:53:14.360 What's going on?

00:53:15.600 We're all men here, man.

00:53:18.040 You're not a man.

00:53:18.640 You're scum.

00:53:19.420 You lie to people.

00:53:20.640 You lie to vulnerable people.

00:53:22.400 You just said that you were a liar yourself.

00:53:25.560 No, I didn't.

00:53:26.280 I tested someone.

00:53:27.060 Yes, you did.

00:53:27.580 Yeah, you said I lied to do this trick on him.

00:53:30.780 You're a confirmed liar.

00:53:33.000 Confirmed liar.

00:53:33.920 But I told everyone exactly what I did.

00:53:35.940 You're still a liar.

00:53:37.320 Why?

00:53:37.820 Yes, you still lied like a piece of shit.

00:53:41.680 Huh?

00:53:43.240 Unbelievable.

00:53:44.460 Vince, you're a real asshole.

00:53:45.820 I like you.

00:53:46.400 Oh, my God.

00:53:47.120 This is great.

00:53:47.520 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:53:48.280 Let me tell you guys.

00:53:49.440 I'm only an asshole if you're an asshole to me.

00:53:52.260 Sure, sure, sure.

00:53:53.880 That's his energy.

00:53:54.860 Yeah, if you're showing some shadiness and being really cocky, then I go double cock on

00:54:02.320 you.

00:54:03.860 I like that expression.

00:54:06.780 If you're cocky to me, I'm going to go double cock on you.

00:54:09.180 You know what?

00:54:09.640 You know what?

00:54:10.420 You guys are nice.

00:54:17.660 Ted is nice.

00:54:18.600 And then we're all nice together.

00:54:20.760 Right, right, right, right, right.

00:54:22.180 Well, I'm not trying to get double cocked, so I'm being super nice.

00:54:27.260 I'm very sure I'm being super nice.

00:54:29.160 This is a Christian show.

00:54:30.180 I'm one cock in the mouth.

00:54:31.880 I'm one cock in the mouth.

00:54:32.740 No, no.

00:54:33.560 Oh, my God.

00:54:34.880 Unbelievable.

00:54:35.600 All right, Vincent.

00:54:36.600 You had to cross the line.

00:54:38.420 All right, so I want to ask you guys something very serious.

00:54:42.360 Yeah.

00:54:42.580 What I've heard about the final experiment is that all it does is disprove a certain model

00:54:53.260 that people speculated would be the model you would expect to see if we were on a flat

00:54:57.300 plane, but that's not the only model or something of that nature.

00:55:00.520 So outside of the idea that potentially they just didn't go to this place or do this thing

00:55:06.100 and they're in front of, you know, this mountain that is, you know, admittedly, I've seen the

00:55:10.380 images very strange.

00:55:11.320 I've seen the images of the shadows that don't make sense where it looks like if you've got

00:55:15.400 a light source coming from a particular direction, why are these shadows going this way and those

00:55:19.260 shadows are going that way?

00:55:20.380 I've seen that and I've gone, that's not how shadows behave.

00:55:22.980 That's weird.

00:55:23.420 Um, but, but is there any room in the discussion for like, well, it just doesn't prove that

00:55:30.800 model, but there are other functioning models of flat earth that still, you know, are, are

00:55:35.320 standing strong.

00:55:36.380 Oh, absolutely.

00:55:37.320 That's what I was saying from the very beginning.

00:55:39.000 They may have seen that.

00:55:40.640 I don't know.

00:55:41.320 I wasn't there.

00:55:42.180 I'm not saying they didn't.

00:55:43.420 I'm not saying they did.

00:55:44.360 I don't know these people, but just because they saw that doesn't disprove.

00:55:48.760 Like some people have models that say this and other people like Shane St. Pierre have

00:55:53.460 models that completely explain it with the firmament and all that and reflections.

00:55:57.680 People like, oh, that's bullshit.

00:55:58.900 We'll go look at it.

00:56:00.020 It shows you that we all live in our personal, like atmospheric dome and everyone's like,

00:56:04.500 oh, dome, flat earth.

00:56:05.540 All it means is say, pick any number you can see.

00:56:09.660 Let's just make it simple.

00:56:10.680 10 feet.

00:56:11.260 Just say you could see 10 feet, right?

00:56:13.500 You could see 10 feet in every direction.

00:56:15.900 So if you looked in every direction around you and the ground is what it is, whether

00:56:20.880 you think it's flat or round, that's a dome of perspective.

00:56:24.760 So when you're looking and the sun is going by in one way, you're looking from your point

00:56:30.840 where you are right there in your dome of perspective.

00:56:33.040 That's all it means.

00:56:33.800 But Shane has a whole model that it doesn't, it doesn't say that it doesn't work just because

00:56:40.420 they saw that.

00:56:41.100 And again, they could have seen it.

00:56:42.440 They could have not.

00:56:43.080 I don't know.

00:56:44.320 I wasn't there.

00:56:44.980 It doesn't, it doesn't really matter to me because again, there are things that even

00:56:49.900 if they did see that you cannot explain on the globe theory, you just can't because

00:56:57.060 reality tells us otherwise.

00:56:58.980 So even if we were wrong on one part or some people were wrong, it doesn't get, okay, you

00:57:05.520 good.

00:57:05.960 Even if you say you got to win now, let's move on to the other 125 facts that you can't

00:57:11.320 disprove.

00:57:11.720 There's this idea that if you don't believe in the model that's given, then you are beholden

00:57:23.880 to then present a model that it's like, if this isn't it, then what is it?

00:57:28.920 And it's like, dude, I don't know what it is.

00:57:30.740 I just know that I'm looking at a bunch of idiosyncrasies here.

00:57:34.220 You're claiming X, Y, and Z.

00:57:35.600 That's provably false.

00:57:37.700 Therefore, your model is incorrect.

00:57:41.560 And then all of a sudden it's left on you to prove it another way.

00:57:46.240 And it's like, you know, to prove that your model is wrong is one thing.

00:57:50.680 But yeah, to then have to be like, well, here is what's actually happening, which is I think

00:57:55.260 where a lot of people get in trouble, right?

00:57:56.640 Even in just any other conspiracy, that's the case.

00:58:00.420 It's like, I see elements that somebody's hand is moving things and orchestrating things

00:58:05.920 one way or another, whether it's geopolitically, whether it's culturally, whether it's, you

00:58:10.800 know, symbols in the music video.

00:58:12.380 And then all of a sudden, because you notice these things, there's a type of individual

00:58:16.660 that turns to you and goes, well, then what do you think is going on?

00:58:19.780 And it's like, it's like when you say like, I don't know, they're doing shit.

00:58:22.280 Who is they?

00:58:23.620 It's like, damn bitch, I don't know.

00:58:25.080 I just recognize that what they're telling us is going on is not what's going on.

00:58:29.740 Exactly.

00:58:31.280 Well, have you guys, have you guys ever spoken with Topher Gardner of Biocharisma?

00:58:37.200 No, no, I haven't.

00:58:39.300 He's got some interesting work because you've been, you've kind of been talking about this

00:58:42.600 idea of the dome and this dude has, I guess he has multiple companies, but what he really

00:58:48.160 specializes in, specializes is, is in dome building and, and manufacturing the creation

00:58:54.640 of like these, like a, it's like, like a home, but it's shaped like a dome.

00:58:58.820 And he plays around with different geometrical shapes, like different sacred geometry from

00:59:04.860 stars to like other patterns that create like, you know, just pure tension between metal rods.

00:59:11.100 And this, this is even done with sticks at some point, like in, in antiquity, like, but

00:59:15.660 the point is, is that it, uh, it's, he believes it's also a reflection of what we live under

00:59:21.940 and why it works so beautifully because the tension of a dome, um, doesn't allow for like

00:59:30.660 external pressures to really mess with it.

00:59:32.820 Even, even pressures below like earthquakes, it's resilient to that.

00:59:36.560 And it's, it's like a mimicry of, uh, I don't know what they call it.

00:59:40.640 The, this, the tabernacle.

00:59:42.540 Oh yeah.

00:59:42.760 The tabernacle, the idea that the tabernacle from the Bible was a miniaturized replica,

00:59:46.800 two scale replica of, uh, of the firmament, uh, that God sits above.

00:59:51.280 And I mean, you know, there's something to be said about the, the, the shape of a dome.

00:59:55.660 It's not just, it's not just like the geometrical shape and it's, uh, the structural integrity

01:00:00.660 of the thing, it's when you're inside of it as well.

01:00:03.680 The acoustics that will resonate within a dome or, or other kind of like cathedral like

01:00:08.640 places, you'll see them a lot of, a lot of times in, in religious architecture, they'll

01:00:13.440 have like domes or other like Tartarian type buildings.

01:00:16.380 And that's to manipulate the sound that goes on in there.

01:00:19.800 And it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's an interesting overlap when you look at that.

01:00:24.580 And then you have to then justify like a round earth with some sort of an atmosphere or

01:00:30.360 you can kind of look at what the Bible is saying.

01:00:32.600 It's like, well, why does this work so well on this reality?

01:00:35.860 Why, like, why is it like as above, so below that this structure seems to be exactly, this

01:00:42.520 structure seems to be the one that, uh, you know, it's just, it just works better rather

01:00:47.020 than go live in four square walls, but it's kind of like, it's kind of like, you know,

01:00:51.860 a loony bin.

01:00:52.560 It's like dependent on, on right angles that if any one of them failed, the whole structure

01:00:56.980 would fail.

01:00:57.460 So yeah, exactly.

01:00:58.840 But you know, whereas a dome would be built in a, in a much more simple manner.

01:01:03.940 Yeah.

01:01:04.540 Yeah.

01:01:04.820 And it's just a better structure.

01:01:07.260 Have you seen, you're talking about old buildings and structures.

01:01:10.460 Have you seen where people have recorded the resonant sound inside a cathedral or something,

01:01:17.040 and then they amplify it on a cymatic plate and it happens to match the pattern that's on

01:01:21.900 the stained glass window?

01:01:23.000 So like, so Topher, Topher is the guy that interviewed that lady.

01:01:28.160 Oh, she's a, yeah.

01:01:29.960 So what she did was, uh, inside of this cathedral, I forget, uh, I think it was like a Catholic

01:01:34.560 cathedral.

01:01:35.220 Yeah.

01:01:35.660 She went in there and one built supposedly in the dark ages.

01:01:38.440 Yeah.

01:01:39.000 What, what they do is she measured complete silence in the cathedral and then she recorded

01:01:44.040 it.

01:01:44.380 Then she played that recording and repeated that same process seven times until she's playing

01:01:50.220 like a six layers of silence over itself.

01:01:53.220 And then from there, she took a mix of all of those recordings, all seven of those, uh,

01:01:58.520 plated on a cymatic plate.

01:01:59.880 And it just so happened that the vibrations matched up to the patterns on the, the stained

01:02:04.740 glass.

01:02:05.100 So we're like, what the hell is actually going on in these places?

01:02:08.980 Yeah.

01:02:09.560 And yeah, I don't know.

01:02:10.780 Like we, we were trying to pick his brain, like, Hey, is that the chicken or the egg?

01:02:14.020 Like what happened first?

01:02:14.960 Did they design?

01:02:15.580 And he thinks it's about, uh, he thinks it's about frequency.

01:02:19.220 These people knew they understood that this frequency would create maybe some sort of resonant

01:02:25.100 feeling in the, the occupant of the building, design the building that way.

01:02:28.480 And just so happened that like, it just continues to reflect itself fractally all the way down.

01:02:33.880 Yeah.

01:02:34.720 It's all frequency, man.

01:02:36.280 You know what I think it is?

01:02:37.540 I don't think it's a physical thing.

01:02:39.580 It's just like a barrier, just like a video game where you can't, you know, have you seen

01:02:44.960 the invisible walls?

01:02:46.280 You're talking about the firmament.

01:02:48.020 Yeah.

01:02:48.260 I don't think it's a physical thing.

01:02:50.080 We are frequency, whatever we are, we can't go past it.

01:02:54.540 It's like blocking us.

01:02:56.920 Uh, just like a invisible wall in a video game.

01:03:00.240 You can't go past it because it's the end of the realm.

01:03:03.940 Well, yeah, that's, that talks about like, uh, the levels of, well, the, what the seventh

01:03:09.280 heaven.

01:03:09.780 And some people think that, uh, this is like a dome and then above it is like another dome.

01:03:14.520 And then there is like, you know, they say God is the most high meaning in the seventh

01:03:18.700 heaven.

01:03:19.080 That's where he resides.

01:03:20.260 Yeah.

01:03:20.460 Literally like literally physically like up the most high and we can't traverse these things.

01:03:26.300 I think we can, I think we can traverse me.

01:03:28.760 It, maybe it's a possibility.

01:03:30.020 Like when we do DMT mushrooms or whatever this asshole was doing at the tower of Babel.

01:03:36.140 Yeah.

01:03:36.620 Yeah, exactly.

01:03:37.360 Now the tower of Babel, that story, is that like a, a building that goes up high?

01:03:42.080 Is that a star gate that could kind of traverse through there?

01:03:45.900 While you're on this real quick, hold on.

01:03:47.680 Let me ask you.

01:03:48.700 So in the Bible, it says that God destroyed the tower of Babel because people were coming

01:03:53.540 together, building a structure, trying to reach him.

01:03:55.660 Correct.

01:03:55.980 That's the rough overview of it.

01:03:58.300 What do you think he would do if you tried to shoot rockets up in the air?

01:04:02.900 Uh, well, I mean, hopefully he would, he would smack them down and throw fireballs at us.

01:04:07.640 You know, I mean, I was actually going to bring that up because, um, I know Vince is saying

01:04:12.540 he doesn't think it's like a physical thing, but when I watched those, you know, SpaceX launches

01:04:18.160 where it looks like it's splashing against some sort of a viscous material, it looks like

01:04:22.780 it's, it looks similar to a boat traveling across water from a top down view.

01:04:27.800 Well, we have one coming, I think Sunday.

01:04:29.680 You're in Florida too, right, Ted?

01:04:31.700 Yeah.

01:04:32.200 Yep.

01:04:32.600 Oh, they're going to launch another one?

01:04:33.660 Yeah.

01:04:33.680 I can still see him.

01:04:34.400 Oh, here we go.

01:04:35.160 Yeah.

01:04:35.460 It's, I mean, right by, right by us, we'll be able to see this.

01:04:38.100 I think Saturday or Sunday, got to look it up.

01:04:39.960 But the last one that I did see that he blew up, that he threw up, they celebrated it and

01:04:44.860 it just blew up and it looked like it hit the firmament.

01:04:47.060 It looked like it hit something physical.

01:04:48.780 Yeah.

01:04:49.520 But guys, have you seen the rocket, the private rocket or something?

01:04:52.860 Yeah.

01:04:53.120 The go fast rocket that hit it and it stopped.

01:04:56.000 Yeah.

01:04:56.340 But it sounded like water.

01:04:59.200 That's the thing.

01:04:59.960 It's, it's, it's like there, there's a barrier, whether it's real or digital or whatever,

01:05:06.280 but it seems like it gets thicker first and then it slowly becomes a solid barrier.

01:05:11.960 And I've heard people, and I can't say if it's true or not, but supposedly someone who

01:05:17.300 used to work for NASA leaked stuff through emails talking to people and they were talking

01:05:22.300 about, yeah, basically 70 something miles up, which happens to be the same height that

01:05:26.960 that rocket went to, that they can't go past that.

01:05:30.980 And they were like, well, why can't you?

01:05:34.220 And it's like, oh, we're not allowed.

01:05:35.820 Well, who won't allow you?

01:05:37.040 And then they didn't want to answer it.

01:05:38.600 Like they physically could, but they weren't, they weren't granted access or whatever.

01:05:43.760 So I don't know if it's a vibrational change or what it is, but I mean,

01:05:48.060 Well, that goes to that Wernher von Braun headstone thing.

01:05:51.180 I don't know if that's a, if that's ever been confirmed or if that's just true.

01:05:54.080 That's the reality because it's like, I've just been lying to people, which I'm comfortable

01:05:57.360 with, but this idea that on Wernher von Braun's headstone, it says like a God show with his

01:06:02.060 handiwork in the firmament, you know, and it's just a scripture of quotes, the Bible.

01:06:06.200 Yeah.

01:06:06.420 And it's like, okay, so this dude who dedicated all of his time to space exploration, by the

01:06:10.920 way, a Nazi taken over here in operation paperclip around the same time that all the weird shady

01:06:15.820 shit starts happening, you know, the CIA development and MK ultra programs and all this.

01:06:19.600 Um, he spends his life dedicating it to space exploration.

01:06:24.160 And then in the end, he puts a Bible verse on his headstone that talks about the firm of

01:06:28.740 it.

01:06:28.860 It's just, you know, the whole thing screams, um, he's trying to tell you on his way out.

01:06:34.640 Maybe.

01:06:35.020 I don't know if he's experiencing remorse or some shit like that, but we just go like,

01:06:39.400 anyway.

01:06:40.400 And then you just keep, you just keep going.

01:06:42.000 You watch NASA's fake and stupid shit.

01:06:43.640 Like one of the things with NASA that always gets me is when they show an image of the

01:06:46.580 globe from space and it, you know, what is that Elon Musk quote where it's like, uh, it

01:06:51.640 looks so fake.

01:06:52.440 That's how, you know, it's real.

01:06:53.540 Yeah.

01:06:53.920 And for some reason, the continents are always a varying sizes.

01:06:57.380 Like sometimes Florida and the United States look so big that you're like North America would

01:07:03.100 account for like 80% of the globe.

01:07:04.940 If that, if that model that I'm looking at, that's even better, the red bull jump.

01:07:09.900 Yeah.

01:07:10.460 That one.

01:07:10.900 I'm not familiar with what happened on that Ted, you probably know, but he went up and

01:07:15.060 well, well, first, before I go into the red bull jump, but remind me, you were talking

01:07:18.380 about Wernher von Braun and yes, it's Psalms 19 one, which we all know nine 11, 10 being

01:07:23.440 the perfect number, Aleister Crowley nine on one side, 11 on the other.

01:07:27.260 It's all tied in there.

01:07:28.760 The one that happens to point out their fucking lie and all that, which Aleister Crowley also

01:07:33.660 had a hand in founding NASA with the butt babies out in the desert and all that.

01:07:38.600 It all comes back.

01:07:39.360 Uh, L Ron Hubbard and, uh, Jack Parsons.

01:07:42.480 Jack Parsons worked for like a jet propulsion laboratory, which is a subcontracted company

01:07:47.280 that NASA uses.

01:07:48.420 And he's like a huge Crowley advocate and he's in the desert trying to summon in Babylon,

01:07:52.960 the, the, the sort of the divine feminine, uh, that I think we're all being plagued by.

01:07:58.020 And then the, and then Walt Disney, he's the other one who had a hand in it.

01:08:02.480 So these are the people who started all your shit, but yeah, the red bull jump, it was over

01:08:06.840 New Mexico.

01:08:07.920 He goes up and supposedly, and people like, look at the curve of the earth, but you can

01:08:11.860 line up the geography and that would be planet fucking New Mexico.

01:08:15.820 Like the curve literally would be just in the state.

01:08:19.280 It's absolutely absurd.

01:08:21.120 And when it opens up, it's like, it's what it would be.

01:08:25.460 And when the capsule thing opens up, when it's not the GoPro on the outside, you see from the

01:08:30.540 inside, the horizon's flat.

01:08:31.980 Not only is it flat, but it's at eye level exactly where it was on that camera before

01:08:37.660 he came off the ground.

01:08:39.580 So the horizon people have lined up those images.

01:08:42.380 It's the same.

01:08:42.960 Now, if you're on a ball, the higher you go, the horizon would be further and down because

01:08:48.620 you're on a ball.

01:08:49.860 It would be dropping away from you.

01:08:51.740 It wouldn't be staying up at eye level, but it does.

01:08:54.920 No one's ever seen it go anywhere else.

01:08:57.300 Yeah.

01:08:57.700 That, and I love that everything they ever want to show you too, is like, that's a fish

01:09:00.720 eye lens dog.

01:09:01.400 That's a fish eye lens over and over again.

01:09:03.120 I'm like, that's a fish eye lens.

01:09:04.400 But that, that proportion thing is like super inconsistent, like super inconsistent.

01:09:09.520 Like I remember watching something where it was like hurricane season and, and they were

01:09:13.200 tracking a hurricane and they were trying to say like, look at how big this hurricane

01:09:15.940 is from, you know, whatever satellite image.

01:09:19.460 And I'm like, yeah, that hurricane is one fifth the size of the planet.

01:09:23.800 Like it was so big.

01:09:25.440 It didn't make any sense at all.

01:09:26.760 And then I'm looking at like the continents and I'm like, that doesn't make any sense.

01:09:30.140 Like none of this makes sense.

01:09:31.600 And it's like, they'll do that over and over again.

01:09:33.580 It makes me wonder where the first introduction of the globe would have been into like the

01:09:40.420 public awareness.

01:09:41.520 Like who did that?

01:09:42.640 Where, where did we first see that?

01:09:43.960 Cause I remember seeing something that was like, um, universal studios had, uh, in their

01:09:51.240 logo, the image of the globe that was like predated us actually getting satellite imagery

01:09:57.800 of a, of the globe.

01:09:59.220 And, but it was like somehow universal studios knew.

01:10:02.680 And I was like, is that, is that real dude?

01:10:05.040 Yeah.

01:10:05.400 I think it was in the twenties or thirties.

01:10:08.040 And then no one went up anywhere until, you know, they went to the moon, basically the

01:10:13.420 only time they were far enough away in fifth or 69.

01:10:16.220 So it, it's all bullshit, man.

01:10:18.460 How did they know?

01:10:19.540 Universal studios just knew dude.

01:10:20.980 They, they just knew.

01:10:22.220 Dude, we all know the government's lie about almost everything.

01:10:26.300 Right.

01:10:26.960 Why do we trust them on this shit?

01:10:29.220 Why would they tell you the truth on this shit?

01:10:32.940 That's because I've seen the curve with my own eyes, bro.

01:10:35.480 Yeah.

01:10:35.760 Where?

01:10:36.840 Well, that's something that Ted and I have, we've talked about that in the past.

01:10:40.060 It's like, there's a cognitive dissidence between people, uh, when it comes to this,

01:10:45.340 this topic, people are pretty comfortable, generally speaking, if you go around to them

01:10:49.620 in the streets and you were like, do you believe that the government lies?

01:10:52.420 And they'd be like, yeah, dude.

01:10:53.860 Yeah.

01:10:54.120 Yeah.

01:10:54.340 Of course.

01:10:54.680 It doesn't matter young or old, you know, male or female, or, uh, you know, some sort of

01:10:59.960 in between gender furry, uh, they, they're going to pretty much respond, you

01:11:05.040 unanimously.

01:11:05.920 I, I, I wouldn't be surprised if you're batting, you know, a hundred percent, that's

01:11:09.960 probably not the expression.

01:11:10.800 What's the baseball?

01:11:11.480 A thousand.

01:11:12.080 Sure.

01:11:13.080 You're batting a thousand when it comes to, uh, people saying, yeah, the government lies.

01:11:17.880 But then if you went like, do you think they lied about the shape of the earth?

01:11:21.140 But about what?

01:11:21.880 No.

01:11:22.860 No.

01:11:23.360 I mean, NASA, that's, you know, that's not, all you have to do is say it's nasa.gov.

01:11:29.180 Go ahead.

01:11:30.060 That's where it is.

01:11:30.940 That's it.

01:11:31.020 It's, it's a fucking government, man.

01:11:33.080 Vince, you, do you think you lean, it seems like you lean more into this being, uh, like

01:11:37.120 a simulation of sorts.

01:11:38.560 Is that where you're at?

01:11:40.060 Yes.

01:11:41.100 I never really want to say a hundred percent, but on this, I think I'm going to go and say

01:11:45.700 a hundred percent.

01:11:46.500 Yes.

01:11:46.860 I think this is a hundred percent, uh, simulation and we're trying to build another simulation

01:11:52.960 within the simulation.

01:11:54.160 And that's going to be built by Satan.

01:11:56.020 And once you connect your brain into that simulation, which is indistinguishable to reality,

01:12:02.220 that's when Satan is God in that realm and you are its slave and you are now in hell.

01:12:09.960 That's the goal.

01:12:11.100 I believe that's, it's all going towards that, but there's a lot, I think, you know, I worked

01:12:17.000 with, uh, VR, you know, you know, have you guys tried VR headsets?

01:12:20.640 Uh, I haven't tried VR headsets in a really long time.

01:12:24.720 Um, I got like super hot and nauseous.

01:12:28.740 Last time I tried it, it was, it was still rudimentary, but I was like, I don't like this.

01:12:33.320 I know they're killing it now though.

01:12:34.540 Like right now they've dialed it in and it's a, it's a good time.

01:12:37.420 But listen, while you're feeling nauseous, everybody pretty much feels that because your

01:12:41.320 brain, it really thinks it's over there.

01:12:43.920 Even though the graphic is blocky and all that shit, it doesn't really matter.

01:12:47.000 It's still think it's in a blocky realm, you know, like reality got blocky.

01:12:53.100 So, so when you move in there, your, your brain thinks you're moving, but it's getting

01:12:58.680 some, uh, wrong codes back.

01:13:00.740 Like your body is still standing, but we are moving.

01:13:04.420 That's why you're getting nauseous.

01:13:05.720 But I'll go.

01:13:07.040 No, I was going to say, this is that video that you and I talked about before about having,

01:13:11.380 I'm sure you guys have seen it.

01:13:12.600 Have you seen that, uh, the arm sounds weird, the hammer and hand experiment.

01:13:18.660 Oh yeah.

01:13:19.040 Yeah.

01:13:19.860 Yeah.

01:13:21.000 It's fucking insane.

01:13:22.300 You know, I want to do that to my son.

01:13:23.740 That's a great idea.

01:13:24.880 Uh, so for, for the audience, it's like, you know, they'll, they'll, uh, you'll put your

01:13:28.860 arm inside your shirt and then your empty sleeve, they'll put a fake arm and they'll, and you'll

01:13:32.700 tell you to put your, your palm on the table and they'll put the palm of the fake arm on the

01:13:36.040 table.

01:13:36.240 So it looks like your arm.

01:13:37.360 And then what they'll do is they'll start like touching it with like a feather or something like

01:13:40.740 that.

01:13:40.960 And they're like, can you feel that?

01:13:42.020 And people are like, yeah, dude, I could feel that.

01:13:43.960 And then eventually they whack it with a hammer and everybody is always like, Holy crap.

01:13:47.740 Like they react.

01:13:48.500 Like they just got it here.

01:13:49.500 If you want to pull it up, please.

01:13:50.820 Yeah.

01:13:50.960 Yeah.

01:13:51.100 Play that.

01:13:51.540 It's such a great, uh, uh, experiment.

01:13:53.800 It really shows you like, uh, the ability to hijack our psychology.

01:13:58.260 Yeah.

01:13:58.740 Oh, don't worry.

01:13:59.160 We got it on this.

01:13:59.940 I need to refresh.

01:14:00.820 I don't hear you guys.

01:14:02.440 Oh, you know, refresh, refresh.

01:14:04.020 You gotta refresh.

01:14:05.720 That's also going to bring his, his, uh, his, his thing with it.

01:14:08.200 But honestly, I think I'm going to try to do that to my kid.

01:14:10.960 Oh, wait, it just requires a fake arm.

01:14:12.640 Uh, I don't have one of those yet.

01:14:14.320 Here's what's advanced back to this stage.

01:14:15.820 Fucking StreamYard, man.

01:14:18.260 Is where is that?

01:14:19.500 This episode is brought to you by StreamYard.

01:14:21.460 We would never say anything bad about StreamYard.

01:14:23.320 The StreamYard is the best.

01:14:25.600 Yeah, you're right.

01:14:26.240 It's the best.

01:14:26.840 Oh, I gotta take this down.

01:14:28.440 Okay, that's what's going on.

01:14:29.420 That's the problem.

01:14:30.120 Gotcha.

01:14:30.740 I gotta bring down that debate.

01:14:31.860 Here we go.

01:14:32.660 Okay.

01:14:33.340 To train your brain to believe that this can...

01:14:37.000 Can you play it at faster speed?

01:14:38.940 Yeah.

01:14:39.840 All right.

01:14:40.280 Because it's a little long, but...

01:14:41.820 125 or 1.5?

01:14:43.760 1.5, probably.

01:14:44.720 Let's do 1.5.

01:14:45.800 Arm is your arm.

01:14:46.840 Do you see we've got this divider here?

01:14:48.020 Uh-huh.

01:14:48.320 So right now you can kind of see your arm.

01:14:49.780 You see the arm there?

01:14:50.340 And I'm going to cover over part of your arm.

01:14:52.340 Now I'm doing that because your eyes talk to your brain.

01:14:54.300 Uh-huh.

01:14:54.560 And your eyes tell you this is what's happening.

01:14:56.180 So now, can you physically see your arm?

01:14:58.320 Your right arm here?

01:14:58.960 No.

01:14:59.340 Great.

01:14:59.700 So I'm going to take these two classroom rulers.

01:15:01.900 So we're going to train the sensations.

01:15:03.300 You feel the rulers touching your hands.

01:15:05.400 Because it's now becoming one with your mind.

01:15:08.200 That this right hand is your right hand.

01:15:10.860 Right?

01:15:11.320 You are believing that as I drag the ruler on your right hand there...

01:15:14.960 It totally feels...

01:15:16.020 In fact, in your brain, your right hand.

01:15:19.300 It totally feels like I'm going to come.

01:15:20.540 It's crazy.

01:15:21.460 You feel the sensations line up with each finger.

01:15:23.800 What?

01:15:24.040 Whoa, yo.

01:15:25.980 This is crazy.

01:15:26.720 Yeah.

01:15:27.600 You know what I think it's doing?

01:15:31.620 When he touched the real hand outside of you, it is calibrating the fake hand in his mind.

01:15:38.720 I'm pretty sure we all get that.

01:15:39.980 No, but I mean, that's a good way of putting it.

01:15:42.260 Like, calibrating, I think, is a great way of explaining that.

01:15:44.700 Yeah.

01:15:45.240 That's why he's kind of going through it.

01:15:46.660 It's like when...

01:15:47.560 So you used to have something that used to be calibrated.

01:15:49.500 Remember your iPhone used to have to be calibrated for touch?

01:15:52.240 You would have to recalibrate your touchscreen occasionally?

01:15:54.800 The old school ones.

01:15:55.600 You'd have to do that even for your directions on your phone sometimes, your maps.

01:16:00.600 It would tell you to move your phone in a figure eight because it couldn't figure out what was north and south and shit.

01:16:06.020 So, yeah.

01:16:06.240 Yeah, yeah.

01:16:06.760 This is a similar situation because our minds are just hyper complex like quantum machines.

01:16:12.480 Yeah, exactly.

01:16:13.160 Good job.

01:16:14.080 Right?

01:16:14.560 Yeah.

01:16:14.940 Feel the knuckles.

01:16:15.480 Uh-huh.

01:16:16.000 Feel each digit.

01:16:17.740 Oh.

01:16:19.240 Oh, that's...

01:16:19.960 Okay, this is where.

01:16:22.840 Now, I'm going to do this one more time to train your brain.

01:16:26.180 As soon as it's going to be creepy.

01:16:27.620 Feel your thumb.

01:16:29.560 Okay, yeah.

01:16:30.700 And your next finger.

01:16:33.460 Little finger.

01:16:35.960 Green finger.

01:16:36.900 Can you pause this real quick?

01:16:38.660 Does he just come out of nowhere with a hammer?

01:16:40.520 Well, well...

01:16:41.320 Yes!

01:16:41.600 You know, for the listeners...

01:16:43.260 For the listeners, there was a calibration tactic that was happening where he was simultaneously touching the dude's real hand while touching his fake hand in the same places so he would draw the correlation.

01:16:52.100 That's the thing.

01:16:52.820 Now, he's no longer touching his real hand and the guy still feels a physical sensation when he touches the fake hand.

01:16:59.900 But that really throws into question the narrative that we get when it comes to like nerve endings are responsible for your feeling.

01:17:08.520 Any sort of sensation of touch and pain is determined by your nerve endings.

01:17:13.660 But if your nerve endings aren't actually receiving any actual signal like that, and this guy's still feeling it, then are they lying about that?

01:17:22.900 Dude, Ted and I got a video regarding that subject as well.

01:17:28.460 That's fascinating.

01:17:29.120 Let's just see when he brings the hammer because his brain now, his brain has now accepted the plastic hand as its hand.

01:17:37.180 By the way, this guy looks like a fentanyl addict, but please let's continue.

01:17:41.220 Most likely.

01:17:41.860 Watch his fingers on the left of the screen.

01:18:11.120 If your brain is thinking that it's feeling it, okay?

01:18:13.340 So even if it gets a little, what would be considered painful, I will not be harming you because of course I'm not going to be actually hitting your right arm.

01:18:19.620 But your brain really believes that this is in fact your right arm.

01:18:22.480 He's like bracing.

01:18:23.140 He's bracing.

01:18:25.620 He's hoping his other hand will do that too.

01:18:28.020 Watch, watch what's his hand.

01:18:33.180 I'm totally feeling it in his hand.

01:18:35.400 It feels me.

01:18:36.260 It just, oh.

01:18:37.280 Let me tell you something.

01:18:38.020 Wait, pause real quick.

01:18:38.720 For a second I was like, maybe this dude's a crackhead.

01:18:43.540 But the way his fingers on his real hand are jumping as the guy hits the fake hand.

01:18:49.580 Right.

01:18:49.800 They're so reactive that it's not, it's so in sync perfectly with being struck with the hammer on the fake hand that it, I don't believe, it is instinctual.

01:19:00.820 I don't believe he's faking it.

01:19:01.980 It looks instinctual.

01:19:02.900 It looks like a genuine reaction.

01:19:04.500 That's fascinating.

01:19:05.200 It's also hard to move your fingers that way.

01:19:06.880 Yes.

01:19:07.120 Unless you're like, you know, unless you're herking jerking because somebody's whacking you with a finger.

01:19:10.080 That's what I thought.

01:19:10.320 I put my hand and tried to do it and I was like, it doesn't work because my other fingers move when I try to do it.

01:19:16.640 So, yeah.

01:19:17.000 Oh, man.

01:19:17.660 Yeah.

01:19:17.840 And they were all moving individually.

01:19:19.800 Just for the audience sake on audio, he's using a small reflex hammer on the fake hand and it's causing a reaction in the real hand.

01:19:26.740 That is fascinating.

01:19:27.880 Okay.

01:19:28.100 That's just one thing.

01:19:29.680 Yeah.

01:19:30.000 But going back to the virtual reality headset.

01:19:32.320 So, I was working on making the music for Tarzan VR.

01:19:35.520 So, I got to play around with that fucking thing.

01:19:38.880 How is that?

01:19:39.580 Tarzan VR.

01:19:41.480 Yeah.

01:19:41.860 It's a goofy game.

01:19:43.240 Okay.

01:19:43.620 All right.

01:19:44.220 That's what he does.

01:19:45.460 He composes music soundtracks.

01:19:47.200 Yeah.

01:19:47.600 I'm a fucking.

01:19:48.360 Oh, okay.

01:19:48.780 That's cool.

01:19:49.200 I'm a great composer.

01:19:50.240 Yeah.

01:19:50.740 So, yeah, I am.

01:19:53.580 So, I was, when I was in that place, after a while, I got used to the, the, yes, yes, laugh.

01:20:03.160 I'm sorry.

01:20:06.660 I just like that.

01:20:08.360 I like unabashedly being like, I'm a fucking great composer.

01:20:11.320 I am the best.

01:20:12.040 I am the best.

01:20:13.080 Well, I have my reasons.

01:20:15.300 I'm not delusional.

01:20:16.160 I know why I'm saying it.

01:20:17.220 If you're, if you're hired in the occupation of composer, I believe you've got to be good

01:20:20.680 at it.

01:20:21.020 Uh, but I just like being that.

01:20:21.800 Hired or not is not the point.

01:20:23.660 I am the fucking best.

01:20:24.600 I could, listen.

01:20:27.480 Listen, if Cardi B got 5 billion views, she's, she's a strip artist.

01:20:31.500 That's right.

01:20:31.840 She's not a strip artist.

01:20:32.440 But what I'm saying is, even if you don't pay me, I am the fucking best.

01:20:38.100 Yes.

01:20:38.700 Yes.

01:20:39.240 Because you know why?

01:20:40.320 I could make Bohemian Rhapsody and if nobody heard it, it's still Bohemian Rhapsody.

01:20:44.740 Do you know what I mean?

01:20:45.580 I don't think that's how it's pronounced.

01:20:47.600 Oh, it is Bohemian Rhapsody.

01:20:48.740 No.

01:20:49.060 But you understand.

01:20:50.180 Do you understand what I'm saying?

01:20:51.200 Like I could compose the best composition in the world.

01:20:53.560 Mama Mia, Mama Mia.

01:20:54.980 Yeah, but if nobody hears it, if nobody hears it, it doesn't really affect the quality of

01:21:02.840 the composition for sure.

01:21:04.360 Yeah.

01:21:04.420 But anyway, going back to the VR headset.

01:21:06.700 Okay.

01:21:07.680 Yes.

01:21:08.160 I quickly started to think, hold on a minute.

01:21:10.980 Why am I responding to when I'm jumping off a cliff in the video, video game?

01:21:15.900 Yeah.

01:21:16.080 Why does it feel like I'm jumping off a cliff?

01:21:19.140 It doesn't make that in your stomach.

01:21:21.100 Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:21:21.680 Uprising.

01:21:22.220 The butterflies.

01:21:23.040 Guys, remember when you made a somersault when you were a little kid?

01:21:26.360 I still do that now.

01:21:27.600 We talked about that.

01:21:29.640 It's horrific.

01:21:30.620 I wish you'd stop.

01:21:31.220 Nobody likes it when I do it.

01:21:32.500 But guys, I will tell you, it's a great way.

01:21:36.120 Like, let's say you're afraid of heights.

01:21:38.780 I think this will lessen that because it actually, your brain thinks you're in a skyscraper.

01:21:45.900 High as fuck, you know?

01:21:47.280 So, and also, jumping out, the first time you jump out of a skyscraper, it feels like

01:21:54.100 you're jumping out, right?

01:21:55.000 But eventually, you get used to it.

01:21:57.120 So, if you're in any situation, need to jump out of a skyscraper in the future, you will

01:22:03.080 now be a little bit more practiced.

01:22:05.640 Well, let me ask you that, Vince.

01:22:06.940 You know, you're working on this, and I imagine you're doing it over and over again because

01:22:10.680 you've got to get the music just right to the jumping off of the cliff.

01:22:13.920 So, do you find that it deadens that response?

01:22:18.700 What do you mean by that?

01:22:20.160 Do it make it feel less like you have butterflies in your tummy?

01:22:24.560 With the music?

01:22:25.840 No, no, no, no, no.

01:22:26.740 Through repetition in the VR headset, does it make that feeling go away?

01:22:31.520 Yeah, you're more used to it, and it's like, it's cool, you know?

01:22:35.700 I wonder if that actually would translate.

01:22:37.380 It happens in real life, too.

01:22:39.400 Yeah, well, I understand that, but I'm wondering if that would translate or if you would start

01:22:43.740 from Square, I mean, it probably does have to help a little bit, right?

01:22:46.020 Like, if you were to be skydiving after that, you would maybe feel a little bit better about

01:22:50.220 it.

01:22:51.460 Or even say you would brand VR of having your wife divorce you over and over again.

01:22:55.720 It would be easier when it actually happens, you know?

01:22:58.460 That's right.

01:22:58.940 You'd be like, oh, I've been through this.

01:23:00.240 It's old hat, man.

01:23:01.460 Honestly, you have no idea.

01:23:02.560 That could be great for some guys out there.

01:23:04.240 Dude, that's great for us.

01:23:05.160 We're on the fast track with this podcast.

01:23:07.060 The more we do this podcast, the more I feel papers incoming, so maybe, yeah, maybe I should

01:23:12.420 be doing that just to prepare myself.

01:23:14.660 Guys, compared to when the first time you started doing podcasts, compare that to now.

01:23:18.840 How much more comfortable are you now compared to the first time?

01:23:21.060 Oh, how much more dead inside am I now?

01:23:22.900 Oh, yeah.

01:23:24.100 We're just putting it on for you guys.

01:23:26.020 That's like a lot of-

01:23:27.220 Who do we talk to?

01:23:28.080 Show them your teeth.

01:23:28.760 Go ahead.

01:23:29.060 Show them the smile.

01:23:29.900 His mouth was smiling, but his eyes are frowning.

01:23:35.980 But you guys know what I mean.

01:23:37.600 You guys know what I mean.

01:23:38.160 I got the Mr. Beast.

01:23:39.500 The Mr. Beast.

01:23:41.380 You get more comfortable.

01:23:41.780 That dude's a fucking antichrist, all right?

01:23:43.980 I'm sorry, Vince.

01:23:45.020 Vince is being- He's making a serious point here.

01:23:46.760 Shut up, David.

01:23:47.160 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:47.480 I'm sorry.

01:23:48.580 You're getting more comfortable.

01:23:49.800 So, you're right, Lobster.

01:23:51.480 In everything, in life as well, the more you do it, the more comfortable.

01:23:56.080 But it just proves to you that, A, there seems to be a connection between VR and this.

01:24:02.520 Like, how the fuck can this video game thing trick your brain to believe it's in another realm?

01:24:11.540 How?

01:24:12.820 Unless the VR thing is tapping into something reality is doing, but in a way lower way.

01:24:21.480 That's the thing that actually started making me, because I never believed in simulation.

01:24:26.540 I laughed at it before, because we know the Earth is flat, blah, blah, blah.

01:24:30.000 Vince would say, oh, well, all programs are written on a flat plane, so that ties into that.

01:24:35.400 And then, so he started showing me some shit, and we were talking about these electronic hands where you put a bracelet around your wrist.

01:24:44.740 Let me bring it up.

01:24:45.420 As you move your hand, the electronic, or the electrical firings in your wrist tell this fake hand to move, and the way you move your hand, just by sensing these electrical firings, are making that move.

01:25:00.360 Yeah.

01:25:00.560 So then, it led me to think about that everything our brain perceives is also just an electrical firing.

01:25:07.900 Everything.

01:25:09.040 Yeah.

01:25:09.200 So, is it a reality?

01:25:12.260 Is it a simulation, if it's all electrical anyway?

01:25:15.180 And if I do believe it's a simulation, it's a simulation beyond anything we can grasp as what we have.

01:25:21.220 Okay, here we go.

01:25:21.360 You know.

01:25:21.820 We have a...

01:25:22.820 After we show this, Ted made an excellent fucking point about this.

01:25:29.480 Yeah.

01:25:29.800 How long until somebody jerks off with it?

01:25:33.480 Five seconds, maybe.

01:25:33.980 Pretty much, but yeah.

01:25:35.660 Right, he made a first step.

01:25:36.960 Okay, so watch this.

01:25:39.720 With her mind, she will move this hand.

01:25:43.840 Yeah, and for the listeners, we've got an amputated individual with a severed hand walking around on the floor.

01:25:51.180 She's got a robot hand.

01:25:51.920 Oh, it's crawling through the drain.

01:25:53.320 Yeah, like a bionic.

01:25:54.100 Yeah.

01:25:54.820 That's pretty dope.

01:25:56.560 Yeah.

01:25:56.780 So, it's sensing what their brain would be telling in electrical firings into these things, and it's moving their appendages in that manner.

01:26:05.220 Yeah, you know what, though?

01:26:06.400 This is the same theory that Neuralink operates on.

01:26:09.600 Yeah, this is where they have telekinesis and telepathy.

01:26:12.740 Yeah, that's what brought it up.

01:26:15.260 About what?

01:26:15.840 Yeah, look at this.

01:26:19.180 That's not the guy from the sign commercial, Tony Wu, is he?

01:26:21.640 You literally just think all Asian people look the same.

01:26:23.860 He looks exactly like that.

01:26:25.100 That was crazy racist.

01:26:26.460 Real quick, hold on.

01:26:27.460 You know what's fucked up about that, though?

01:26:28.960 I fucking thought that, too.

01:26:30.500 And the other night, my wife had a...

01:26:32.160 I mean, I thought that my whole life...

01:26:33.700 Take it easy, dude.

01:26:33.960 Listen to me.

01:26:35.040 This is a Christian show, all right?

01:26:36.380 I didn't need you to take it easy.

01:26:37.840 This is important, though.

01:26:39.400 You thought it, too, though, right?

01:26:41.100 When I saw him, I was like, he's about to pick up a sign.

01:26:44.540 But, so last night, my wife loves watching those true crime shows, and there was this

01:26:49.240 Asian dude on there, and I'm like, I've seen him somewhere before.

01:26:52.620 That looks like the dude that was in Austin Powers choking him out.

01:26:56.740 Blah, blah, blah.

01:26:57.320 You're racist.

01:26:58.040 I mean, my wife didn't tell me that.

01:26:59.100 She would never tell me that.

01:26:59.820 She knows better.

01:27:00.560 But it is him.

01:27:02.340 It really was him.

01:27:03.700 I slap her with my mechanical hand.

01:27:04.560 The dude from Austin Powers, the Asian dude in the bellhop outfit that chokes him, ended

01:27:09.900 up kidnapping and raping some bitch and became a UFC fighter and all this.

01:27:14.820 And...

01:27:14.940 What?

01:27:15.740 Yes.

01:27:16.140 I swear to God.

01:27:17.120 What an illustrious career.

01:27:19.580 I know, bro.

01:27:20.520 Oh, my God.

01:27:21.300 We thought he had hit his peak early with Austin Powers, but really, after that...

01:27:25.940 I thought he hit his peak with the rape.

01:27:27.820 Well, that was after.

01:27:28.800 That's what I'm saying.

01:27:29.440 Okay, can we go back to the arm wrist?

01:27:31.240 I got his career.

01:27:31.460 Can we go back to the wrist arm thing?

01:27:33.640 Please, please.

01:27:34.180 Okay.

01:27:34.560 This is Meta Facebook.

01:27:35.920 Sorry, Vince.

01:27:37.100 Yeah, Meta Facebook.

01:27:38.700 Yeah.

01:27:39.280 They got this wristband that will read your nerves, whatever, the nerves that you...

01:27:47.400 You know, whatever your brain sends to your hand.

01:27:49.760 Yeah.

01:27:50.360 They read that, converts it into bionic code, computer code, robot code.

01:27:58.740 And the robot code makes the same movement from your brain.

01:28:04.720 Like, what you're thinking, it's now doing with its bionic hand.

01:28:08.940 So, if you're thinking of moving this finger, it will do that with your mind.

01:28:13.420 So, Ted made a really interesting...

01:28:16.420 Let me pull this back a little bit so we see him.

01:28:21.600 He made an interesting thought about that.

01:28:24.660 What if in the future...

01:28:25.660 Ted, maybe you will say this better.

01:28:27.120 So, if they're able to decipher that code in one direction, right?

01:28:31.280 So, they can pick up the electrical firing or the code or whatever, and they can make it

01:28:37.700 do something.

01:28:38.240 That means they've been able to identify it.

01:28:40.260 So, they can identify it, separate it from everything else, and know how to use it.

01:28:44.900 Like, how long will it be until they can reverse that and stop that frequency?

01:28:51.300 And then they can just put a little collar around you, and your brain can't send a signal

01:28:55.640 anywhere else.

01:28:56.880 I don't think it would even be a collar, man.

01:28:58.600 I think that's an implant.

01:29:00.600 Yeah.

01:29:00.920 But, yeah, certainly.

01:29:01.940 Whenever you're seeing like a...

01:29:04.040 They just made a car recently that's like, oh, this car can't go past a certain miles

01:29:08.080 per hour.

01:29:08.660 It was like, well, I don't want that.

01:29:10.240 I don't want a car.

01:29:10.840 So, I got an old, I got a 2019 Subaru with the, you know, an actual ignition crank because

01:29:16.580 I'm just like...

01:29:17.180 Good for you.

01:29:17.840 I'm done with the key stuff.

01:29:19.340 I'm done with all that, like the computers and the cars.

01:29:22.040 My dad's car wouldn't start the other day, and he had to like do some weird stuff to do

01:29:25.760 the push to start button.

01:29:26.800 I'm just like...

01:29:27.540 That's why I want something old, too.

01:29:29.360 But it does, it reminds me of, you know, I always talk about this.

01:29:32.940 Shout out Chaney with Subaru.

01:29:35.220 I'm just...

01:29:35.580 Oh, yeah.

01:29:36.100 I mean, assume she has a Subaru.

01:29:37.820 Yeah.

01:29:38.180 Um, uh, she's actually the one that recommended it to you.

01:29:40.820 So, so, uh...

01:29:41.820 Look, Vince doesn't get it.

01:29:42.800 He's like, I don't get it.

01:29:43.640 We drive a Vespa.

01:29:44.900 Hold on.

01:29:45.260 How does that electric car tie into the collar of, you know, blocking your...

01:29:49.740 Well, hold on.

01:29:50.560 We're going to get there.

01:29:50.940 Number one.

01:29:51.340 It doesn't at all.

01:29:52.100 This is my show.

01:29:53.340 I do whatever I want.

01:29:54.760 Let me tell you something, Vince.

01:29:56.060 In America, in America, lesbians drive Subarus.

01:30:01.860 Vince, that's the joke.

01:30:03.640 Yes.

01:30:04.300 We don't even allow Vespas out here.

01:30:06.040 You understand me?

01:30:07.040 All right.

01:30:07.840 Unbelievable.

01:30:08.620 We wouldn't let a lesbian drive a Vespa in America.

01:30:12.140 Reckless.

01:30:12.980 How it ties in is that there are levels of control, like, to your vehicle, to your hand.

01:30:19.260 Like, I'm imagining your fridge that's tied to Bluetooth.

01:30:22.580 All these people that want all this stuff, like a smart home, I'm like, yeah, it'll lock

01:30:26.380 you out of your fridge when it decided you're too fat.

01:30:28.560 I want a retard home.

01:30:29.820 I don't want a smart home.

01:30:31.100 It reminds me a lot of those experiments they did on the cats.

01:30:34.160 I know I bring this up all the time, but in the 90s, they were putting very simple

01:30:38.700 electro, like, you know, what do you call them, computer chips on a cat's brain.

01:30:45.340 And all it was doing was sending an electrical impulse or not.

01:30:48.380 And they put it on the center, the parts of the brain that were associated with aggression.

01:30:52.520 And so they found that they could trigger the cat either into extreme bouts of aggression

01:30:59.140 by just sending a simple electronic pulse, or they could send it into, you know, being

01:31:04.980 completely docile.

01:31:06.020 So no matter what you did, the cat wouldn't react whatsoever.

01:31:08.740 And now we're going to let this asshole put a computer chip in our brains.

01:31:12.800 And I think that everybody's overlooking the direct access that it gives, where it's not

01:31:18.960 just like augmenting you so that, what's the guy from Back to the Future that played

01:31:24.380 Marty, who now has the shakes?

01:31:27.140 Michael J. Fox.

01:31:28.400 Michael J. Fox is a little bit shaky.

01:31:31.180 So I'm sure if they put Neuralink in his head, he might stop.

01:31:34.540 And we'd all be like, how profound.

01:31:36.180 But they could also just stop Michael J. Fox so you could, you know, do all kinds of terrible

01:31:40.500 things to him.

01:31:41.180 You could put a pillow over his face, you could, but fuck him.

01:31:45.500 And he would not respond whatsoever.

01:31:47.720 So people aren't, it's strange that we're barreling towards this, and we're going to

01:31:51.980 allow this dude to do an invasive thing in our heads.

01:31:54.680 Have you heard?

01:31:55.920 Go ahead.

01:31:56.420 I wanted to go on, because what you're talking about, like when you say simulation theory,

01:32:00.860 I immediately think, what a faggot, right?

01:32:03.340 But then I go.

01:32:04.120 That was my first thought too.

01:32:05.900 Yeah, but you're right.

01:32:07.380 Because this realm is ruled by like weird electrical synapses.

01:32:12.080 It's ruled by frequencies.

01:32:14.200 It's all.

01:32:14.540 Yeah, it's all electrical.

01:32:16.760 It's all like radio.

01:32:18.060 It's like waves, things that we can't necessarily perceive.

01:32:21.100 Yes.

01:32:21.340 And, but then again, to boil it down to like a VR headset, it's like, it's not that either.

01:32:26.960 No.

01:32:27.360 Well, that's the thing that pisses me off with simulation theory, is the idea that we made

01:32:31.900 Grand Theft Auto 5, and then we're like, this is all a simulation, man.

01:32:35.540 And it's like, no, we are capable of creation, and we're made in the image of God.

01:32:40.560 And so the things that we create, even inadvertently emulate or mirror what God has created, there's

01:32:47.340 a fractal nature to reality.

01:32:48.960 That's where you get that idea of like, as above, so below.

01:32:51.100 What happens in the macro also exists in the micro.

01:32:53.380 That's why quantum physics is a big thing.

01:32:56.400 But it's still reductive, because what God has done far exceeds any simulation that we

01:33:02.140 ever will be capable of creating.

01:33:04.020 And so in that way, it's just a little bit annoying, because I'm sure people who created

01:33:08.480 like a Medal of Honor for PlayStation 1 looked at that, and were like, dog, maybe that's

01:33:14.460 what happened here.

01:33:15.260 It's like, dog, just like that.

01:33:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:33:16.540 And they couldn't even, they couldn't even conceptualize Grand Theft Auto 5.

01:33:19.940 So whatever God has created here exceeds our understanding.

01:33:23.740 And I think that's why we're told not to lean on our own understanding, because as soon

01:33:26.960 as we think we got it, we're just like bastardizing it.

01:33:29.680 And so what, but to your point, Vince, like, yeah, this was a creation, and there is a creator

01:33:36.320 or a programmer, even calling him a programmer is reductive, because there's so much more

01:33:41.320 at play than just computer programming here.

01:33:43.460 But yeah, I would agree with you, there is a lot of shit where you, if you start to look

01:33:47.860 at it real closely, you go, wait a second here, something, something made this, this

01:33:52.960 realm.

01:33:53.360 You know what it is, though?

01:33:54.040 It's like a lot of people that are willing to engage with simulation theory would sue

01:33:59.660 sooner have claimed atheism than Christianity.

01:34:02.600 And I'm not saying that you have to be down with organized religion, but it's like, the

01:34:06.500 thing that they share in common sometimes is a disdain for Christianity.

01:34:10.640 Well, what, what atheists share in common also is, uh, round earth.

01:34:15.660 Oh, that's true.

01:34:16.120 It's like, yeah.

01:34:16.840 People, and they'll get real insulted with you whenever, like, you know, uh, I was, I was

01:34:20.840 kind of messing with Cliff High a little bit, but other people, and I'm just like,

01:34:24.280 hey, uh, how do you feel about being on the same intellectual footing as Sam Harris and

01:34:30.440 Neil deGrasse Tyson?

01:34:31.520 And they're like, screw you, man.

01:34:33.440 And they block you.

01:34:34.280 I was like, I didn't insult you.

01:34:35.660 I just said, like, these are the guys standing side by side with you saying the same thing.

01:34:40.220 Yeah.

01:34:40.640 It's like, well, maybe you should read.

01:34:42.000 And that's, that's like a little bit of a logical flow of an argument, but there's something

01:34:46.100 to it also, right?

01:34:47.180 Yeah.

01:34:47.460 You're surrounded by homos.

01:34:49.400 It also goes back to like the whole, if they think it's ridiculous, like if you think that's

01:34:54.320 true, how can I trust anything else you believe?

01:34:56.820 Because you're, you're just listening to idiots that are failed actors and comedians that they

01:35:02.520 put in the spotlight and we're like, Hey, you're going to push this now.

01:35:05.780 Right.

01:35:06.340 But, but when, when quantum physicists say like, yo dog, we've, uh, we've peeped like code.

01:35:12.280 It looks like there's like code written.

01:35:14.740 So I don't even understand what that means.

01:35:16.320 Uh, even, even the guys that were doing, uh, with the lasers, with the laser, they were

01:35:19.820 like, uh, uh, doing DMT.

01:35:21.520 We just talked about this.

01:35:22.960 Yep.

01:35:23.300 Yes.

01:35:23.700 Yeah.

01:35:24.280 So they're seeing code.

01:35:25.300 We talked about this on our stream.

01:35:26.400 Yeah.

01:35:26.660 But it was like ancient Enochian.

01:35:28.920 So it's not ones and zeros.

01:35:30.400 It's something a little deeper, but it, I guess at its, at its core level, it, the fundamentals

01:35:35.180 are the same, the building blocks.

01:35:36.920 That's why.

01:35:37.740 Go ahead, Vince.

01:35:39.180 I wanted to push back maybe towards you, Raven.

01:35:42.840 Okay.

01:35:43.060 First of all, uh, I absolutely believe there is a creator, God.

01:35:47.380 Okay.

01:35:47.640 Whatever you want to call it.

01:35:48.700 Doesn't really matter.

01:35:49.700 It's the same thing.

01:35:50.660 It's responsible for everything.

01:35:53.340 Like the console, whatever the programmer console, whatever.

01:35:57.120 That's number one.

01:35:58.000 Number two, I think you said like, you don't think there will ever be a virtual reality

01:36:02.900 that can match actual reality.

01:36:05.420 Yeah.

01:36:06.740 I think they will not only match reality at some point, they will surpass it, meaning

01:36:13.880 they will crank up the resolution even beyond realities, make it look better.

01:36:20.100 You can do all kinds of sick shit that you can't do in this reality.

01:36:24.720 Like all of a sudden a dragon comes in your face and like, uh, fucking fireworks, like

01:36:30.740 magical shit.

01:36:31.760 They can do that in a virtual reality where here it seems like it's restricted a little

01:36:36.240 bit.

01:36:36.580 So think about it.

01:36:38.800 If everything is fucking, uh, electrical signals, that means they can hijack all of

01:36:43.960 your five senses from this brain right here, hook it into a fantastic virtual reality that

01:36:50.400 you will not see the difference between reality and that.

01:36:53.420 Like, let's say if they may already have, they may already have, but I do think they're

01:36:59.200 heading towards that, at least a new one.

01:37:01.960 Uh, and if they clean slate, wipe your memory, when they throw you in there, you would not

01:37:08.060 know that you were in a virtual reality.

01:37:10.100 You would think that is your actual reality.

01:37:12.100 And in fact, maybe that's happening when we go and dream, we visit other realities.

01:37:17.140 And, and for that time when we're in there, we think that's real, you know, like, and

01:37:22.240 then you wake up, oh, that was just a dream.

01:37:24.060 Thank God.

01:37:24.620 You know, depending on what the dream was.

01:37:26.420 Yeah.

01:37:26.540 Sometimes it might be real.

01:37:28.120 If it was like you were riding some, yeah.

01:37:31.060 Anyway.

01:37:31.940 Yeah.

01:37:32.260 Yeah.

01:37:32.500 Yeah.

01:37:33.060 Well, I don't know.

01:37:34.020 Fuck, was that a dream?

01:37:35.260 Damn.

01:37:35.600 I don't think that you're, I, I, now that you said that, I think that, um, you are likely

01:37:41.020 correct that we could create something that is more dynamic and fulfilling in some ways,

01:37:46.660 not fulfilling, but like, um, amazing.

01:37:49.540 And, and, and as far as our perception goes, but I think once you start incorporating the

01:37:54.200 idea that we exist, uh, parallel to and integrated with a spiritual realm, um, and that there are

01:38:01.420 heavenly realms and that there are things that like, like people have dreams where they visit

01:38:05.080 realms that they think are more real than what we're experiencing here.

01:38:08.160 Or people say that's not real, right.

01:38:10.080 Or, or people, uh, have near death experiences where they go to something that is more real

01:38:15.080 than what this is.

01:38:15.920 So I think that there, um, we're in this realm and it's capped for a reason.

01:38:22.120 This is what we're meant to be experiencing here.

01:38:24.940 Well, I also just, well, to Vince's point though, if anything did create something like

01:38:29.840 Satan created a VR and reminds me a lot of mother horse eyes.

01:38:33.360 Yeah.

01:38:33.580 You guys should, uh, listen to that.

01:38:35.860 It's like, we tell everybody, listen to mother horse eyes.

01:38:37.800 Uh, you, I actually, Vince specifically, you'll love it.

01:38:40.880 It's a, it's hear me out.

01:38:42.820 It's 10 hours, but I listened to the whole shit, man.

01:38:46.720 Well, you, you, you do the, the streams are 12 hours.

01:38:49.380 So you're fine.

01:38:49.900 Yeah.

01:38:50.140 Just look it up.

01:38:50.820 Mother horse eyes.

01:38:51.460 It's actually, you can find it on our feet, uh, on Nephilim death squad.

01:38:54.040 Go and subscribe.

01:38:55.220 Uh, uh, but your page, I don't know where, well, you can find it on the audio.

01:38:59.860 Yeah.

01:39:00.180 It's for, you could listen to it for free as well, but it's online.

01:39:02.840 It's, it's everywhere.

01:39:03.500 Yeah.

01:39:03.840 It's, it's incredible.

01:39:05.760 Um, uh, basically long story short, it's a guy who did a lot of drugs and had a bunch

01:39:10.740 of experiences and then documented all the experiences.

01:39:13.980 And it's like, he's like, you know, I'm leaving it up to you, but it seems like he lived with

01:39:19.380 several different perspectives for a moment in time and then wrote about all of them.

01:39:22.620 And some of them are in the future where these people are consistently plugged into this

01:39:26.580 VR and their bodies are rotting.

01:39:28.460 Right.

01:39:28.900 But they've got like this VR headset on and they're in an infinite plane of pleasure and

01:39:33.220 awesome experience, but their bodies are rotting and they're in these hygiene tanks

01:39:37.180 where they're pissing and shitting and that people have to come and do maintenance on them

01:39:40.040 because they smell so bad and all this.

01:39:41.380 It's actually like kind of horrifying.

01:39:43.140 It's horrific.

01:39:43.820 But, um, they are locked in.

01:39:46.820 Everything is about gooning.

01:39:48.080 Everything is like jerking off.

01:39:49.520 Everything is based on masturbation.

01:39:51.000 It's constant, constant, constant, but you're going through these like really well fleshed

01:39:54.400 out storylines and unbelievable graphics where you're looking at the minutia of everything

01:39:58.900 and it seems so real.

01:39:59.920 But sometimes within the simulation or within your, your interface, uh, these people will

01:40:07.080 come across things that have like more profound effects.

01:40:10.100 Like there's a couple of stories where like, I don't know, he doesn't necessarily say it,

01:40:13.540 but I'm like, oh man, it sounds like you ran into a biblical angel.

01:40:16.260 Like the, the guy, all of a sudden his eyes multiplied to like two, four, six.

01:40:21.000 64, uncountable.

01:40:23.060 And yeah, he's like, he has got multiple heads.

01:40:25.040 So it's like when you read the Bible and the angel interfaces with, uh, Ezekiel, it's a

01:40:29.700 wheel upon wheels with eyes surrounding.

01:40:33.080 And it's like, nah, dude, you're seeing something that is in a different dimension.

01:40:37.280 It's interesting.

01:40:37.700 Cause the way he describes it, wheels upon wheels, right?

01:40:40.120 You think about like a geometric shape and then the way that they describe these kids

01:40:43.680 who can perceive four dimensions and then they put them into a four dimensional VR and

01:40:48.280 it's like shapes, like rudimentary geometry, but it's moving in ways that doesn't make

01:40:52.660 any sense.

01:40:53.180 It's phasing through and it's actually like very jarring and they hate experiencing it.

01:40:57.000 Some people go crazy.

01:40:58.020 Some can make sense of it.

01:40:59.120 But it's interesting.

01:40:59.800 Cause you go wheels covered in eyes, wheels within wheels.

01:41:02.240 You go, Oh, that's interesting.

01:41:03.560 Uh, what are you going to say Vince?

01:41:04.960 You mentioned out of body experience.

01:41:06.980 There's this guy, I think he's on YouTube, uh, Darius J. Wright.

01:41:11.560 He's a guy that claims he can go out of his body on demand.

01:41:17.420 I mean, on, you know, whenever request, uh, he's like, uh, I lower my heart rate so low

01:41:23.740 that eventually my body is still alive, but my soul leaves.

01:41:28.680 But anyways, so he says when he goes out of his body, he is going out of a firmament kind

01:41:34.680 of a deal and out there he's, he's surrounded by other souls and everything is nice and great

01:41:42.780 over there.

01:41:43.320 And he says, over there, you, you guys just decide to create a reality and then jump right

01:41:49.960 into it.

01:41:51.000 And he also says, you are out there.

01:41:54.440 Your soul is the one that is creating these, uh, experiences.

01:41:58.380 But once you jump in, you, you forget about it, of course, because you have to, otherwise,

01:42:03.580 like, if you know your, what you are out there, you can't really experience this reality for

01:42:10.900 real.

01:42:11.280 You know, you have to forget about what you are to dive in here and then learn shit about

01:42:16.680 it.

01:42:17.440 And God knows if you do, uh, go.

01:42:19.200 That's what the people are doing in this, in that story.

01:42:21.960 They're, uh, the hygiene beds are like, they'll turn them a little bit and they have, uh, alarms

01:42:27.700 that'll go off in their like interface that tell them, Hey, time to move around.

01:42:33.000 And a lot of them figure out how to disable these things because they'd rather be within

01:42:37.520 that interface.

01:42:38.260 And that's it's, but, but, but what you're describing is like, so some dudes doing this

01:42:42.560 in the astral and, and then they're also working at breakneck speed to, to make this

01:42:47.440 technologically like a thing that you can actually press buttons on and get to without, uh, I

01:42:52.420 don't know, meditating or fasting or whatever techniques this person's doing.

01:42:55.940 Bi-neural beats.

01:42:56.840 Yeah.

01:42:57.020 Yeah.

01:42:57.340 Oh yeah.

01:42:57.860 I think Sam would say, Sam Tripoli would say that they're, they're hardwiring mysticism.

01:43:03.260 Yeah.

01:43:03.640 Yeah.

01:43:03.900 That's one of the things that I go, uh, yeah, Sam, Sam nails it sometimes.

01:43:07.620 Hardwiring mysticism is, is he nailed it on that one.

01:43:10.620 Yeah.

01:43:11.020 Yeah.

01:43:11.240 I think, um, go ahead, Vince.

01:43:13.200 Can I show you the video?

01:43:14.400 This is actually two minutes, but I speed it up, but it's Neil deGrasse Tyson and this

01:43:18.280 guy, Jim Gates, uh, way back in 2010 or something, talking about finding computer codes in reality.

01:43:25.340 Where, where, where has this pursuit taken you?

01:43:28.020 Oh my God.

01:43:28.620 Where have you landed?

01:43:29.460 Why would you ask that?

01:43:30.320 I'm asking that here and now.

01:43:31.580 It's New York city.

01:43:32.380 It's March 7th.

01:43:32.940 Well, partly it's taken to these very strange images that are behind your head right now.

01:43:36.600 These are pictures of equations.

01:43:38.380 I've been for the last 15 years trying to answer the kinds of questions that my colleagues

01:43:42.580 here have been raising.

01:43:43.820 And what I've come to understand is that there are these incredible pictures that contain all the

01:43:47.800 information of a set of equations that are related to string theory.

01:43:50.380 And it's even more bizarre than that because when you then try to understand these pictures,

01:43:53.680 you find out that buried in them are computer codes, just like the type that you find in

01:43:58.220 a browser when you go surf the web.

01:44:00.440 And so I'm left with the puzzle of trying to figure out whether I live in the matrix or not.

01:44:05.340 Wait, you're blowing my mind at this moment.

01:44:06.820 So you're saying, are you saying your attempt to understand the fundamental operations of nature

01:44:11.540 leads you to a set of equations that are indistinguishable from the equations that drive

01:44:16.400 search engines and browsers on our computers?

01:44:18.980 Yeah, that is correct.

01:44:19.960 So the...

01:44:20.780 Wait, wait.

01:44:21.260 I'm still...

01:44:21.700 Wait.

01:44:22.240 I have to just be silent for a minute here.

01:44:24.900 So you're saying as you dig deeper, you find computer code writ in the fabric of the cosmos?

01:44:34.820 Into the equations that we want to use to describe the cosmos, yes.

01:44:38.620 Computer code.

01:44:39.480 Computer code.

01:44:40.160 Strings of bits of ones and zeros.

01:44:41.760 It's not just sort of resembles computer code, you're saying it is computer code.

01:44:46.520 It's not even just is computer code, it's a special kind of computer code that was invented

01:44:50.600 by a scientist named Claude Shannon in the 1940s.

01:44:53.060 That's what we find very, very deeply inside the equation.

01:44:55.600 Now, hold on.

01:44:56.340 There's one minute here with him again, here, right here.

01:45:00.780 Listen to this, because he makes a great comparison to the movie Matrix.

01:45:04.840 Listen to this.

01:45:05.540 We're now at a point where some really interesting things are going on.

01:45:08.020 First of all, in Geneva, Switzerland, there is a scientific laboratory called CERN, C-E-R-N.

01:45:14.820 And at this laboratory, they have the world's most powerful particle accelerator.

01:45:18.480 In fact, it's sometimes called the Big Bang Machine.

01:45:20.980 And if any of your viewers have seen something like Angels and Demons, the movie, that big

01:45:25.640 scientific installation in the movie is CERN.

01:45:27.720 And so what's going to happen at this location are a set of experiments where physicists are

01:45:33.260 going to actually see if these mathematical switchings that we talked about earlier, whether

01:45:36.980 you can detect that in the laboratory.

01:45:38.240 Now, listen to this.

01:45:38.800 If that happens, then we will know that our equations are not just mathematics, but they're

01:45:43.360 also a description about our universe.

01:45:45.960 The other thing that's going on in my career is a little bit weird, and I'm almost a little

01:45:50.940 bit loath to talk about it.

01:45:52.380 I don't know if you or your viewers, and I'm sure some of them have gone to see the movie

01:45:58.160 The Matrix, but in The Matrix, there are people like us, and they live in a world that's kind

01:46:03.660 of like our world.

01:46:04.760 And the only thing about their world is it's not what it seems, because the totality of

01:46:09.340 everything that people experience is generated by a computer, so it's a virtual reality.

01:46:14.980 Well, some of my research can be interpreted to suggest that we live in such a world, and

01:46:21.440 that's just kind of mind-blowing.

01:46:23.080 So by studying the equations that I've been knocking around with forever, in the last

01:46:27.660 five or so years, I've been able to show that hidden inside of these equations, there are

01:46:32.780 computer codes.

01:46:34.000 They're the kind of computer codes that make browsers work.

01:46:36.760 And so if the equations that describe our reality have computer codes hidden in them, that's

01:46:41.000 just kind of weird.

01:46:41.980 Now, listen now.

01:46:42.640 And in fact, it's so weird that I like to tell people, let's go back to The Matrix movie.

01:46:46.060 If there were physicists in the movie, and they want to know they were inside the Matrix,

01:46:50.780 how could they do that?

01:46:52.040 Well, one way might be to try to detect computer codes in the equations that describe their world.

01:46:56.580 But that's what I've just proposed.

01:46:58.440 Bajail!

01:46:59.840 See, okay, so this is all very fascinating, and I have a couple of things to say on it.

01:47:05.760 I'm skeptical of this, and not the findings, but I'm skeptical of Neil deGrasse Tyson, because

01:47:10.840 he's a homosexual man.

01:47:12.300 I'm skeptical of The Matrix, because it is Gnosticism formed into entertainment for the

01:47:17.960 masses, and it was written by two people who are now trannies.

01:47:21.820 And what I think is actually happening here is...

01:47:24.880 They escaped The Matrix.

01:47:25.460 They escaped The Matrix.

01:47:26.480 Now they're ladies.

01:47:27.660 But they're not incorrect about their findings.

01:47:31.420 They're just incorrect about the nature of their findings.

01:47:33.400 I find it remarkable that science and the technological community can poo-poo God and things like

01:47:39.040 that, even though for countless ages, a bunch of different religions have been saying that

01:47:44.220 this realm was created by a creator, and that we all go someplace else, and that there are

01:47:50.040 alternate realms around here.

01:47:51.220 And then science comes along, and it goes, well, actually, this is what's going on.

01:47:55.140 And if you look at The Matrix, the film The Matrix, it is about the demiurge.

01:48:00.180 The ancient AI that is subjecting mankind to some sort of slavery experience is the demiurge,

01:48:05.460 and that's what Gnosticism has dictated.

01:48:08.160 God is not benevolent and loving, but he is actually this horrifying programmer, this AI,

01:48:13.560 this demiurge that seeks to enslave us and luce us all.

01:48:17.460 And it's a strange thing that we found ourselves in recently where everybody is waking up to

01:48:24.100 this idea, but it's like this...

01:48:26.700 We talk about it on the show all the time.

01:48:28.180 It's like nine truths and one lie.

01:48:29.920 There is a tremendous amount of truth in what we just were exposed to.

01:48:34.100 And a tremendous amount of truth in Gnosticism, and a tremendous amount of truth even in these

01:48:37.640 other religions, but there is one fundamental lie, and it's the nature of it all.

01:48:42.000 And that's where I think things go a little bit screwed.

01:48:43.580 And I'm not saying that that's what that guy was saying, and I also am not saying that

01:48:47.020 that's what Neil deGrasse Tyson is saying.

01:48:48.640 I think he's gay, but I don't think that he's got like an agenda per se.

01:48:52.940 But I've seen this a lot, and it is Gnosticism rebranded for a modern age.

01:49:00.340 I would say, if anything, it kind of confirms that there is a creator.

01:49:05.060 Like, if this is a simulation, and if it is code, then something has made that code.

01:49:12.440 Whether they want to push that or not doesn't really matter.

01:49:15.640 If they confirm that this is a virtual reality, then somebody has to have done it.

01:49:19.500 You know, somebody has to have programmed it.

01:49:21.960 And that's the God.

01:49:23.080 That's the supreme being.

01:49:24.720 You know, I used to be an atheist all my life until a few years ago.

01:49:31.020 I don't remember exactly when.

01:49:32.760 But I had this question.

01:49:34.220 I told Ted, he's like tired of this story.

01:49:36.700 But I had this question.

01:49:39.480 If there is a God, then who created God?

01:49:42.620 Then who created that God that created that God that created that God?

01:49:45.760 That was, I was like, this can't be the, you know, I have no answer for this.

01:49:50.820 So, therefore, I'm an atheist now because, you know, I couldn't answer that question.

01:49:55.600 Who created God?

01:49:56.440 God, God, God, God, until I realized that nobody created God because God do not live in a beginning and an end.

01:50:05.240 It's just an open stream of time.

01:50:08.360 It's just reduced that for us in this virtual reality where we get born and we die.

01:50:14.380 And I try to apply that rule set to the creator, which is dumb.

01:50:19.940 Okay?

01:50:20.220 That's dumb.

01:50:21.220 The creator just put a limit on time for us.

01:50:24.960 That's it.

01:50:25.480 But when we go back, it's endless again.

01:50:28.120 So, therefore, that means nobody created God.

01:50:31.020 It has always been there.

01:50:33.440 And that turned me into a God person.

01:50:35.760 I'm not a religious person.

01:50:37.380 I believe in God.

01:50:38.580 Yeah, the definition of the word eternity means, like, a long period of time.

01:50:46.540 But it still means time.

01:50:48.920 Right?

01:50:49.120 So, it's like, well, what is that?

01:50:51.120 Like, because we have no really, we have no good words to conceptualize.

01:50:54.460 We have no idea how to conceptualize it because we're on the line going this way and that way.

01:50:58.820 But, I don't know, if you read the Bible or you believe in the scripture, these fallen that have begun this story from Genesis 6 to all the way through now, they're already judged.

01:51:12.600 So, they've already admitted to what they're going to do.

01:51:14.960 They've already done it and they've already been judged.

01:51:17.040 It just hasn't been played out because time is just, it's not the same, right, like for us right now.

01:51:23.160 So, for us to, like, question that or even to compare to, like, well, because this is, like, code that I can look up porn on my browser with, then it must be the same thing.

01:51:32.500 It's like, yes and no.

01:51:35.080 You know, but the fact that they are building, like, something interesting, I was listening to something about the Shroud of Turin and they were able to identify Jesus' blood type.

01:51:47.680 And it was a very rare blood type.

01:51:50.120 And then it got me to thinking, I'm like, that specific type of blood, whatever makes that up, probably has to be that way in order for him to, I don't know.

01:52:00.200 But Lobster, can I ask you, how did they do that?

01:52:03.380 Like, his blood type?

01:52:05.220 From the Shroud.

01:52:06.740 I have no idea.

01:52:07.900 Supposedly, you know, taking some sort of sample.

01:52:09.560 How can I trust that, though?

01:52:12.500 You should, I'll send you an episode.

01:52:14.320 It's a crazy, it's a crazy story.

01:52:16.260 How could you trust that it is the Shroud?

01:52:18.140 How could you trust that it is him that was buried in it?

01:52:21.360 So on and so forth.

01:52:22.160 There's a lot of evidence that I think that it was.

01:52:24.940 But even so, if this was this guy's blood and he was here doing a specific set of things, he would have had to been made up of something particular to transmute our reality in this way.

01:52:36.680 And I think that goes all the way down to your blood, like the way RH negative bloodlines can interact with the supernatural more readily than other people.

01:52:43.400 People with red hair and blue eyes, that kind of genetic makeup, it is what it is.

01:52:49.040 They're more likely to have these experiences because of that.

01:52:52.900 They're like building blocks, ones and zeros.

01:52:54.720 Yeah, that's why, like, you know why numerology works?

01:52:59.840 And I do believe it works, even though I think it's gay.

01:53:02.220 And, you know, shout out to Gary, the numbers guy, for being a faggot.

01:53:05.900 But the reason that I think numerology works is because what we've done here is we've made an observation about the realm that we inhabit, which is that somehow numbers have a great deal of sway over different things like personality types and outcomes and things like that.

01:53:19.540 And it seems like the elites are constantly trying to get things to line up, numerologically speaking.

01:53:25.180 Because they know.

01:53:26.440 Well, it's because numbers are part of the fundamental building blocks that God used to create this universe.

01:53:33.160 Yeah, the same thing with angles, the dome, the idea of the firmament.

01:53:36.600 There is a specific angle so that way the downward and side pressure will not crack this thing.

01:53:41.840 It's all angles, numbers.

01:53:43.580 That's really what it is.

01:53:44.660 Like an egg.

01:53:45.540 Like this right here, and I want to say, Vince, I have been, I was not always religious, and I'm still not religious.

01:53:52.020 I mean, I go to a church for the first time in my life as of recently because I'm trying to see before I knock it.

01:53:57.380 But I came to this place after, like, Gnosticism and, you know, all these different ideas.

01:54:04.740 I've been a conspiracy theorist for 18 years, 18 years, 18 years now.

01:54:09.560 I came through that direction.

01:54:11.280 And this right here is actually what I found.

01:54:14.100 Shout out to Nancy.

01:54:15.060 Producer Nancy says, Jesus is the cheat code.

01:54:17.920 The version of Christianity that we have been given is very gay and very retarded and very unappealing.

01:54:26.260 And it's not until you look at it with a different lens that you begin to understand, like, oh, shit.

01:54:31.320 But this thing that they've made quite an effort to make corny and make gay, they're doing that because there's something here within it that is not just like, you know, I go to church and they don't talk about this.

01:54:44.020 I go to church and they just go, like, look, man, it's about being humble, which is true.

01:54:47.520 And it's about, like, Jesus Christ came as a servant.

01:54:49.760 He was God made flesh, and he came to us as a servant.

01:54:52.800 He came to serve.

01:54:53.620 He humbled himself.

01:54:54.140 You guys are pretty humble, yes?

01:54:55.900 Yes.

01:54:56.220 I like it.

01:54:56.680 I would say so.

01:54:57.260 And so there's, like, a lot of things.

01:55:00.120 I'm the most humble.

01:55:00.700 The most humble.

01:55:01.620 I'm the best at being humble.

01:55:03.060 But all of these ideas about, like, fallen angels taking their place as lowercase g-gods among the people and deceiving and all these different things, they don't talk about that.

01:55:15.200 And once you have some context for that, like, I would recommend looking into, like, Gary Wayne or somebody like that, you might find that you'll go, oh, shit.

01:55:24.280 This does explain a lot.

01:55:25.880 And this is not what we're getting from mainstream Christianity or Catholicism at all.

01:55:31.240 But we are at the two-hour mark, and Top keeps giving me the fingers, not, like, but, like, like that.

01:55:38.180 Can I buy this final thing?

01:55:40.420 Please.

01:55:40.920 No.

01:55:41.500 Give us three final things.

01:55:42.940 We got to have you guys.

01:55:43.860 First off, we got to have you guys back on, because this is fun.

01:55:46.520 This is a fun conversation.

01:55:47.300 Okay, I'll get out there.

01:55:48.420 I'll end it now.

01:55:49.360 You're in Australia, Germany, wherever you're at.

01:55:52.320 Italy.

01:55:52.700 Italy, whatever.

01:55:54.280 Very unfortunate.

01:55:55.180 I am Italian.

01:55:58.360 No, no, show us the, what are you going to show us, Vince?

01:56:00.340 What are you going to do?

01:56:00.860 Okay, so this was, this is, I connect this to time, okay?

01:56:04.820 Watch this.

01:56:05.220 Wait, no, I don't think he's showing us this.

01:56:06.480 Is he showing us this?

01:56:07.420 Hold on.

01:56:07.760 Do you see that?

01:56:08.760 Oh, okay.

01:56:09.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:56:09.520 Yeah.

01:56:10.480 Whenever I pause it, it disappears.

01:56:14.900 Wait.

01:56:15.300 Oh, yeah, that thing.

01:56:16.680 Mm-hmm.

01:56:17.280 That thing.

01:56:18.260 Whenever I pause it, it disappears.

01:56:20.480 Yeah.

01:56:20.720 Okay.

01:56:21.560 So right now he's showing us like a weird pixelated, it's almost like a magic vision thing that

01:56:26.600 he's playing as a video.

01:56:27.580 And it has a shape, like a circular shape moving.

01:56:29.960 Looks like a ring moving through static.

01:56:31.940 But when he stops it, it's.

01:56:33.880 It just blends in seamlessly.

01:56:35.060 The shape's not apparent anymore.

01:56:36.840 So you can only detect it in its movement.

01:56:38.700 Are you saying that this is a thing, like a metaphor for what we're unable to detect because

01:56:43.100 we live in the moment?

01:56:45.040 Oh, yeah.

01:56:45.560 This is what I'm going to say.

01:56:46.620 And Ted has heard this five billion times too.

01:56:50.040 But I have this thing about the present, like the now, the past, and the future.

01:56:55.220 Okay?

01:56:56.040 All three of those states do exist and do not exist at the same time.

01:57:01.460 So if we look at the now, you can be in the now, but once you try to capture it, it's

01:57:08.700 already out of your hands.

01:57:10.600 Whenever you say now, it's gone.

01:57:13.660 Gone.

01:57:14.500 Now, gone.

01:57:15.840 But it still exists, but it doesn't.

01:57:17.920 The past has existed, okay, in the form of your actions, this, that, whatever, memories,

01:57:24.040 photos, whatever.

01:57:26.040 It exists, but it doesn't exist.

01:57:28.220 Your action in the past might come back in the now and fuck with you, huh?

01:57:33.400 So the past exists and it doesn't exist.

01:57:35.720 So then you go to the future.

01:57:38.160 It does exist in the way that it's coming to you, but it doesn't exist until it comes

01:57:44.320 to you.

01:57:45.200 So all three of those states both exist and do not exist at the same time.

01:57:49.440 And going back to this video here that I showed you, I think this was a great visual representation

01:57:56.240 of what I just said, because in this video, if you pull it back up again, you can only

01:58:05.520 see all of its movements when all three states is in play.

01:58:11.380 Like the future, the now and the past, making all of the, like when you know, remember those

01:58:18.200 fucking old movies, they go, they go from one frame over here to the middle and to the

01:58:24.120 like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:58:26.940 So the only way you can see this is if all three states, the now, the past and the future,

01:58:33.420 if they're all activated.

01:58:34.600 But once you stop all that, it disappears.

01:58:38.420 Anyways, it's a retarded little thought thing that I have.

01:58:41.780 I can see what you're saying.

01:58:43.380 It's like existing in the now, like only this moment.

01:58:47.240 Like if you try to freeze that moment, well, you can't perceive any of it.

01:58:50.900 Even the now stops, if you pause it.

01:58:54.240 Like they're all three are connected to each other.

01:58:56.960 Like the future, the now and the past.

01:58:59.060 None of them is more real than the other.

01:59:00.860 They're all as real and they're all as fake, dualistic.

01:59:08.500 Yeah, you can end it now.

01:59:10.180 Oh, okay.

01:59:10.780 Oh, all right, bro.

01:59:11.880 Thank you very much.

01:59:12.640 That was wonderful.

01:59:13.000 God damn.

01:59:13.280 Well, before we end it, I do want to have you guys back.

01:59:15.960 It's like a car crash, right?

01:59:17.220 That was like, geez.

01:59:18.840 Honestly, that made me want to do it again even more so.

01:59:21.960 Before we get out of here, guys, where can everybody, oh, wait, no, you know, I got to

01:59:25.800 ask everybody one more thing.

01:59:27.160 Oh, yeah.

01:59:27.520 Do we have time for it?

01:59:28.340 I guess so.

01:59:28.940 Are you freaking out about the time over here?

01:59:30.460 Well, a little bit.

01:59:31.660 Tell me the truth.

01:59:32.120 Yeah, my wife called me.

01:59:33.120 She's like, where are you?

01:59:34.120 I was like, I didn't answer you.

01:59:36.300 You didn't answer her.

01:59:37.060 Oh, it's after five o'clock.

01:59:38.300 That's why.

01:59:38.760 Those divorce things that we were talking about.

01:59:40.560 Yeah, what was that guy who said that preparing?

01:59:42.800 Do you have a divorce VR?

01:59:44.300 Make me the divorce VR where I'm just like fat in a room with just the TV.

01:59:48.260 All right.

01:59:48.560 Well, I'll ask you one last question, but please don't be long-winded.

01:59:52.020 Vincent.

01:59:52.960 Yeah.

01:59:53.440 Are you guys having fun?

01:59:55.360 No.

01:59:56.360 Absolutely.

01:59:56.680 Why not?

02:00:01.440 I mean, here or in general?

02:00:03.840 That's what everybody says.

02:00:04.920 Everybody's just like, you know, just like in general.

02:00:06.740 Don't give me a lawyer.

02:00:07.280 But the answer is yes all the time.

02:00:09.260 Of course.

02:00:09.300 If you're not fucking having fun in life, change your goddamn life because you're doing

02:00:12.460 it wrong.

02:00:13.140 Because that's why we're here.

02:00:13.880 What country are you in, Vince?

02:00:16.300 You're in Sweden, but I'm Iranian, Persian.

02:00:18.800 He's a liar.

02:00:20.760 This guy's a liar.

02:00:21.600 He's literally in New Jersey.

02:00:24.840 You want to know how I got these scars?

02:00:27.960 Guys, can I just say?

02:00:29.060 I wanted to invite him to Brohemian Grove, but he'll never make it.

02:00:31.940 He lives in Jamaica.

02:00:32.580 Oh, listen, Ted, tell us our goal.

02:00:34.540 Our goal is to get me to the United States.

02:00:37.060 I'm going to sponsor him.

02:00:37.820 I may marry him.

02:00:38.760 I don't know.

02:00:39.140 I'll sponsor him for a job, something to get him here.

02:00:42.120 All right.

02:00:42.420 Because I need to be in America, okay?

02:00:46.720 He knows more about America than I do, okay?

02:00:48.940 You're not allowed in now.

02:00:52.200 Just for next time, to give you guys a little thing, have you ever thought about how all the

02:00:58.300 craters we see on Earth that they tell us are meteorites that hit and cause impact craters,

02:01:02.500 they're all at perfect 90-degree angles, and there's 200 of them proven on Earth, which

02:01:07.700 there happens to be 200 fallen angels.

02:01:09.600 Maybe those craters are the fallen angels descending to Earth.

02:01:14.600 I literally never stop thinking about that.

02:01:17.200 I think about that.

02:01:17.880 I only think about it when I come.

02:01:22.800 Every time I come.

02:01:24.320 To answer the question, are you having fun?

02:01:26.440 Absolutely.

02:01:27.180 You know why?

02:01:28.120 It's all about dynamics and being on the same fucking place.

02:01:31.920 You know what I mean?

02:01:32.560 Like with some people, you don't get that, and therefore it's not as fun.

02:01:36.040 But when you're more in line mentally, and you're not sensitive.

02:01:41.500 And you're not a bitch.

02:01:42.380 Yeah, that's basically what it's about.

02:01:43.580 Yeah, it's beautiful.

02:01:44.800 Don't be a bitch.

02:01:46.000 I think that's a wonderful answer.

02:01:49.380 Tap Lobster, do you want to bring us out?

02:01:51.820 I love this guy, first off.

02:01:53.260 I love you, Vince.

02:01:54.280 I love you, Vince.

02:01:55.460 I love you, Vince.

02:01:56.640 Guys, thank you very much for coming to watch this show.

02:02:01.380 This has been the Nephilim Desquad.

02:02:02.760 Until next time, mamma mia.

02:02:05.480 Obey us.

02:02:06.240 And they have.

02:02:36.240 Thank you very much for coming to watch this show.

Nephilim Death Squad - September 05, 2025

208： Tierra Piatta w⧸ Phonebooth Podcast

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