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00:03:37.680 Joining us today, doctor.

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00:03:43.960 A round of applause for us, Dr. Ben Rall.

00:03:47.000 Dr. Ben Rall, before we get into the conversation, let's talk a little bit about where they can

00:03:51.740 find you and what it is that you do.

00:03:55.920 Yeah.

00:03:56.580 Well, thanks for having me.

00:03:57.420 You guys are awesome.

00:03:58.480 This is going to be fun.

00:04:00.700 You know, it's funny you say a doctor.

00:04:03.000 I have to.

00:04:03.420 So I'm a chiropractor.

00:04:04.480 So that right there is always a good for the butt of many jokes.

00:04:08.160 So I'm not a real doctor, of course.

00:04:10.240 Right.

00:04:10.420 I'm a I'm a pretend doctor.

00:04:12.780 But I always laugh.

00:04:15.340 People that people that are always skeptical, they probably aren't listeners to your guys's

00:04:19.800 show.

00:04:20.120 So we probably have the right audience here.

00:04:21.680 But your best way to follow me is my website is Dr. Ben Rall dot com.

00:04:25.660 I do have a clinic in Orlando, Florida.

00:04:27.740 I also have a podcast called Design to Heal and the Design to Heal podcast is a great way

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00:04:41.040 But yeah, excited to be here, guys.

00:04:42.760 I might have to come out and visit you out in Orlando.

00:04:45.500 I know this is a little bit of an aside, but my wife, she was a my wife, my wife.

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00:05:02.460 Um, but she's in so much pain every single day and I'm like, I'm at a loss.

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00:05:11.500 Yeah.

00:05:11.800 Well, first I have to build a shed and then I have to pull her behind it and do the whole

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00:05:35.680 Happy to help for sure.

00:05:37.400 That would be awesome.

00:05:38.320 Uh, so we were talking a little bit before the show and, um, and top was telling me about

00:05:43.800 the nature of what you do and this, this kind of concept that we touched on about the body's

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00:05:51.800 And I know that's going to be, uh, you know, kind of what we're going to end up talking about

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00:07:09.200 It has been saved by Ozempic.

00:07:12.100 That was either the tweet or the article title.

00:07:15.060 And it's because we've been facing an obesity epidemic for so long here in the West.

00:07:20.140 I can kind of see how you might say that sort of thing.

00:07:23.500 Yeah, people have been put in the situation of like, I know a couple people that are on

00:07:28.120 Ozempic or something like it, but they put, they haven't been put in, they've put themselves

00:07:32.220 in a situation where they kind of have to do this now.

00:07:35.100 They have so many other debilitating factors that don't allow them to exercise or live healthy

00:07:39.620 otherwise.

00:07:40.120 And they like reject healthy food.

00:07:42.060 They just can't eat it.

00:07:43.280 You ever see people where it's like, I don't know if it's my strange addiction or my like

00:07:46.480 600 pound life, but I remember one in particular where this woman started gagging at vegetables.

00:07:51.260 And I've never wanted to, and this is a Christian show, I've never wanted to assault somebody

00:07:55.220 so much more in my life than watching that woman gag at the prospect of broccoli.

00:08:01.260 So yeah, I mean, we have been in the throes of an obesity epidemic.

00:08:04.520 Like, is Ozempic here to save us, Dr. Rall, or should we, should we be skeptical?

00:08:11.400 Yeah, man, you guys are like throwing me the softball.

00:08:13.880 Now I know this is a Christian show, but like, I tend to get pretty angry about these things.

00:08:20.500 And I appreciate you guys asking these questions.

00:08:22.920 I think Ozempic is like the perfect, it's real, but it's almost a metaphor for everything

00:08:28.180 that's wrong with healthcare.

00:08:30.080 Okay.

00:08:30.700 And what I mean by this is, so, so just for starters, so the reason we were laughing a

00:08:35.320 little bit is I saw an article the other day that they're going to now have Ozempic for

00:08:39.280 dogs.

00:08:40.480 Okay.

00:08:41.420 Right.

00:08:41.940 He knows truth is stranger than fiction.

00:08:43.820 And you go, what in the heck is going on that we're doing this right now?

00:08:48.840 And you're right.

00:08:49.740 Here's what, the way it gets positioned is so important.

00:08:52.620 I'm going to throw some kind of some facts at you.

00:08:55.860 So right now, Ozempic, a lawsuit, a class action lawsuit has been filed against Ozempic

00:09:01.160 for $2 billion.

00:09:02.900 Okay.

00:09:03.800 This is the classic thing of healthcare, right?

00:09:06.240 We could go through Vioxx.

00:09:07.340 We could go through opioids.

00:09:08.960 We could go through thalidomide.

00:09:10.460 We could go through Dexetrim.

00:09:11.920 I don't know how old you guys are, but Dexetrim, right?

00:09:14.100 The diet pills, right?

00:09:15.380 That ate people's heart valves, right?

00:09:17.360 So all of a sudden there's all these people that have, so, so I'm going to tell you some

00:09:20.600 of the things in the published literature of Ozempic that they admit to increase, increased

00:09:25.800 thyroid cancer, pancreatic cancer, bone loss, stomach gets paralyzed.

00:09:29.580 It only works when you're taking it.

00:09:31.560 The minute you get off of it, you gain everything back.

00:09:33.560 It's liver.

00:09:34.100 It destroys your liver.

00:09:35.080 It messes up your liver enzymes.

00:09:36.520 It destroys your bones because it robs from your bones.

00:09:38.480 It eats up your muscle mass.

00:09:39.740 That's why they call it like a skeleton face.

00:09:41.760 They say, cause it literally is eating away.

00:09:43.980 It's the stupidest fricking thing we've ever done.

00:09:46.880 And it's being billed, like you guys said, not you guys, but like, as it's saving us and

00:09:52.400 the obesity, here's one for you.

00:09:54.300 The obesity, like you talked about, uh, you know, the United States, we certainly lead the

00:09:58.080 way in that.

00:09:58.800 Um, September is childhood obesity month.

00:10:01.540 We're also lead in childhood obesity and the American association of pediatrics, which

00:10:05.660 I detest has said that the first line of defense for childhood obesity should be Ozempic.

00:10:11.300 A first line of defense, the first thing that you should do, if, if that doesn't make you

00:10:17.840 realize that that whole industry has been captured.

00:10:20.640 And I am totally okay with telling you that the modern healthcare enterprise is demonic.

00:10:25.980 Now that might be strong for some people and you can turn it off now if you want to, but

00:10:29.660 I'll prove that to you over the course of this show.

00:10:31.760 The fact that we have turned physiology, we poison ourselves.

00:10:35.260 We pour shit, excuse me.

00:10:36.440 We pour stuff down our mouths all day long and then we get sick and fat or whatever else

00:10:40.340 you want to say.

00:10:40.880 Go for it.

00:10:41.540 Dude, you can say shit.

00:10:43.320 Yeah.

00:10:43.520 It's just, he's not allowed to say it.

00:10:45.000 Oh yeah.

00:10:45.320 I'm not allowed to say it.

00:10:46.480 So here, and then we, and then we're like, we're not that stupid.

00:10:50.160 I literally, one of my podcasts, I just wrote it.

00:10:52.740 It said, um, dog, it was empty for dogs.

00:10:54.880 Are we really that dumb?

00:10:55.980 Like, if you can't see that, if you can't see that, then I don't know.

00:10:59.880 Honestly, I'm, I'm worried for you now.

00:11:02.320 You know, top, you had said, I think you had said like, you know, you can see that some

00:11:05.400 people get put in this last ditch effort, right?

00:11:07.100 Like they've been so sick for so long.

00:11:08.560 So, and, and I, I can appreciate that concept, but you know, I think some of you, I said

00:11:13.220 that you had kids.

00:11:13.800 I've got two kids.

00:11:14.440 Like to me, that's like bad parenting.

00:11:16.960 I mean, what I mean by this is like, it's an excuse and a justification.

00:11:20.220 Okay.

00:11:20.580 And as long as we keep dangling these carrots out there, right.

00:11:23.520 And we say like, oh, well, you know, all these other health risks that they have associated

00:11:27.420 with obesity.

00:11:28.260 Hey, at least we're getting them to lose their weight.

00:11:29.880 But the problem is just like COVID jabs, just like everything else, they don't have the data

00:11:34.800 to actually prove that point.

00:11:36.440 It's only been on the market, became the best-selling drug.

00:11:39.100 90% of Ozempic is sold in the United States of America.

00:11:41.480 It's not made in America.

00:11:42.440 It's made overseas by another company, Norwegian company, Novartis, I believe.

00:11:47.360 And, and 90% of the market is the United States of America, right?

00:11:50.180 And it got, it's getting covered by insurance companies that I think it's $1,100 to $1,700

00:11:53.920 a dose.

00:11:54.660 And so I would, I, I hate Ozempic so bad.

00:11:59.280 Okay.

00:11:59.940 Um, and not because I'm anti people losing weight or anti this, it's because it exposes

00:12:04.940 what they're trying to do to people, which is, it's not your fault.

00:12:09.300 There's nothing you can do about it.

00:12:11.320 We have a drug to save you.

00:12:13.400 Just like they tried to call a COVID jab, the savior, just like they tried to call chemo,

00:12:17.520 the savior, whatever else that they want to do.

00:12:19.160 And it's putting as a, as a Christian, as you know, we're putting our faith in medicine,

00:12:23.160 we're putting our faith in pills, potions, and lotions.

00:12:25.300 And then when it doesn't work, we blame God.

00:12:28.220 It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

00:12:29.500 Like it's, it's embarrassing.

00:12:30.720 So you got me out.

00:12:31.600 You already got me fired up.

00:12:32.620 Well, no, I mean, this is, I understand why you're fired up.

00:12:36.080 And somebody said, real rye or die said that it's really, you know, sad seeing, uh, fat

00:12:41.380 children and, and, you know, I understand, but it also makes you laugh.

00:12:45.540 Well, cause they're cute.

00:12:46.420 I mean, you know what?

00:12:47.420 I will admit they're much cuter than fat adults, but there is something, uh, I guess

00:12:52.380 I don't want to jump to a crazy conclusion and say like it's child abuse, um, but it really,

00:12:58.020 it feels like it.

00:12:58.940 Like, I want to say that.

00:12:59.960 The thing is, it's like, there are so many decisions throughout the day.

00:13:03.560 And, and we, we talk about on this show, cause we, we approach it from like a spiritual lens.

00:13:08.320 Like we're constantly being asked to consent and throughout the day, you have these, these

00:13:12.880 decisions and at least five times a day, you'll have a decision on what you're going to put

00:13:16.620 inside of your mouth and your body.

00:13:18.340 Like yesterday when you said, do you want cookies?

00:13:20.320 And I said, no, and then he ate about four or five cookies right after that.

00:13:24.560 Um, but what you're saying about this whole being produced overseas, we don't have long-term

00:13:28.300 data that sounds a lot like you brought up COVID.

00:13:30.800 It sounds a lot like the MRNA vaccinations.

00:13:32.540 And I know we're going to have to, you know, who knew this, this episode, well, we said

00:13:36.940 this, we're going to be doing a lot of, uh, medical information.

00:13:39.820 And that's the number one thing that YouTube doesn't like.

00:13:41.860 And so when people listen on YouTube and every other word is bleeped out and they go, why

00:13:45.600 is it like this?

00:13:46.240 It's the only way we get to exist on this platform.

00:13:48.460 Um, but in very much in the same way, we were being subjected to experimental, uh,

00:13:54.900 MRNA technology that had no long-term data.

00:13:57.860 That was really the, the huge issue that I was talking about in the very beginning, really

00:14:01.940 early on is like, we don't know what the long-term effects of this are.

00:14:04.900 Sure.

00:14:05.300 They're doing studies and, and, you know, well, it's like, that's almost like a secondary,

00:14:08.440 like they don't care or they don't care.

00:14:10.520 We've been, we've been presented.

00:14:12.320 It's like, like I said, it's a constant presentation of choices and it's all garbage.

00:14:16.520 And the more you choose the garbage, the deeper into this hole you get.

00:14:20.300 And the deeper in that hole you get, the harder is harder is to come out.

00:14:23.600 And here they are with this, uh, it's like a, that's like a free Masonic response, right?

00:14:27.460 It's like, we create a situation alien dialectic crap.

00:14:30.420 Yeah.

00:14:30.740 Yeah.

00:14:31.020 Yeah.

00:14:31.300 It's like, well, here, now you have this.

00:14:32.920 So I was like, here's red dye 40 and it's, it's in all this stuff.

00:14:35.480 That's very addictive and it's delicious.

00:14:37.160 Yeah.

00:14:37.680 And now that you're a fat slob, um, and you really can't move because listen, man, I have,

00:14:42.300 I have family members like this is horrible that like they can't breathe.

00:14:46.020 So they can't even get up and move around to lose weight.

00:14:49.360 And it's like, yeah.

00:14:50.620 What other choice do you have?

00:14:51.880 You know, what's really funny though, is like during COVID, the number one comorbidity was

00:14:55.420 obesity.

00:14:56.120 Like that was what puts you at risk the most.

00:14:58.500 And now it's like, well, we have a cure for the obesity, but it comes with all these ailments.

00:15:03.060 So it's like, no matter what you do, it's obesity is going to end up killing you.

00:15:07.680 If you take Ozempic, you'll lose the weight, but you'll get a litany of things like loss of

00:15:11.580 bone density.

00:15:12.380 A smaller coffin.

00:15:13.040 And I mean, Hey, at least it's cost effective.

00:15:15.880 They just said, and one of the things that just came out is actually, uh, causing blindness,

00:15:19.760 right?

00:15:19.920 Another one.

00:15:20.580 There was a, there was a, there was a great, uh, he's a cardio, uh, Harvard doctor, Dr.

00:15:25.500 Abramson.

00:15:25.900 And he was talking about statin drugs and his wife was a cardiologist.

00:15:28.840 And he just said, this was his statement.

00:15:30.200 Made me think of it.

00:15:30.720 When you said coffin, he said, and this is such a perfect example.

00:15:33.680 He said, dying with corrected cholesterol, isn't a successful outcome.

00:15:37.580 His point is there's not studies that show that taking statin drugs, reduce your chances of

00:15:41.000 death, it may lower your cholesterol, but it doesn't stop you from having a heart attack

00:15:44.080 and dying.

00:15:44.940 So we sell it.

00:15:46.100 So to your point, we say, Hey, I got this family member.

00:15:48.040 I mean, I'm with you.

00:15:48.640 I know many people on these medications and, and they thought that was their only choice,

00:15:52.060 but it didn't actually, they might've lost some weight, but they still die the same way

00:15:55.560 or they die from something else.

00:15:56.500 So they die sooner.

00:15:57.260 I just had a woman, a patient go to a funeral last Saturday, a young lady who, I mean, here's

00:16:02.240 what, this is real.

00:16:03.380 This is really what happens.

00:16:04.640 I had a patient and she was a friend of theirs.

00:16:07.540 And they said, yeah, I know I should get on Ozempic.

00:16:09.540 I know there's all these side effects, but I really just need to lose some weight.

00:16:12.220 She gets on it.

00:16:13.040 She was fine, healthy.

00:16:14.380 I can't prove this one to you, but young female in her thirties within months of starting

00:16:19.660 to take Ozempic, pancreatic cancer and dead.

00:16:22.020 Okay.

00:16:22.680 Another one was a woman who took Ozempic and she had her, her friend, and these are friends

00:16:27.880 of mine.

00:16:28.280 And she was kind of embarrassed that she was taking it.

00:16:30.240 Right.

00:16:30.400 She's like, I know I don't want to take it, but I'm having a hard time losing weight.

00:16:32.640 She takes it.

00:16:33.400 She has a, she has a mental breakdown.

00:16:36.060 She gets put in a psych, she gets put in the hospital, mental breakdown.

00:16:39.560 One of the side effects of these medications is literally people losing their minds.

00:16:43.340 I had another patient who's an executive at a hospital in Orlando.

00:16:47.760 She got put on Ozempic, same thing, want to lose some weight.

00:16:50.360 Well, she's good friends.

00:16:51.100 One of the, one of the doctors there actually is wrote the protocols for Ozempic, puts it

00:16:55.100 on her, puts her on it.

00:16:56.360 She starts measuring her blood levels.

00:16:57.960 I have all of her blood levels, specifically her liver enzymes.

00:17:01.580 Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.

00:17:02.860 Starts Ozempic.

00:17:03.620 All of a sudden her liver is like, it looks like a diseased liver, all of her enzymes off

00:17:08.660 of the chart.

00:17:09.160 So we have to frame this appropriately.

00:17:12.140 These are toxic, poisonous chemicals, man-made synthetic drugs that you're dripping in your

00:17:17.060 body.

00:17:17.480 What universe are we living in thinking that that is going to get us healthy?

00:17:20.960 That'd be like, that'd be like saying, you know, I'm going to become a better, you

00:17:24.800 know, Christian by, you know, doing more porn.

00:17:28.720 Like, what are we doing here?

00:17:29.940 Right.

00:17:30.280 But I feel better when I do it.

00:17:31.860 Well, what the flip are we doing?

00:17:33.960 That's the same thing, though.

00:17:35.060 Like, I understand that we need to be more transparent with the litany of side effects

00:17:40.800 when it comes to this sort of a thing.

00:17:42.220 And I agree with that.

00:17:44.020 But I also wonder how many people that's actually going to stop, because I've been talking about

00:17:47.660 this on the show for the past few episodes.

00:17:49.820 But I recently went on a cruise and me and my family were subjected to whatever kind of

00:17:54.380 like television they had going on where, you know, it wasn't like a streaming service.

00:17:57.560 So we're getting a lot of commercials.

00:17:58.800 And these commercials are kind of aimed at, I guess, boomers.

00:18:02.380 And and so we're getting a ton of medication ads and everything is like happy people skipping

00:18:09.380 through the field, which we've been subjected to for a long time.

00:18:11.780 They made bits about this back in Chappelle's show day, you know, in his sketch comedy show

00:18:19.060 about as as people are skipping through the field, as there's an old man holding his grandson

00:18:25.220 above his head and spinning and and he's carrying his wife on his back.

00:18:28.920 They're also listing off the side effects and the side effects are like, you know, anal

00:18:33.060 fissures, you know, retinal failure, suicidal thoughts like any any horrifying thing you could

00:18:40.980 possibly think of is what they're rattling off explosive diarrhea, you name it.

00:18:45.660 And it's not stopping anybody.

00:18:46.840 It doesn't seem to be slowing the industry down.

00:18:48.360 In fact, it's only grown since the early 2000s, the medical or the pharmaceutical industry

00:18:52.180 is now probably the most lucrative, the most, I guess, financially successful industry that

00:18:59.580 we have to show here in America.

00:19:02.200 And we've been telling people that you're going to die of explosive diarrhea for over a decade.

00:19:06.600 It's not slowed anybody down.

00:19:07.740 So I'm just wondering how many people would still opt to do this thing.

00:19:11.440 I mean, the information's there very similarly to COVID.

00:19:14.880 It was like if you bothered to look, you would find a lot of information on the MRNA vaccination.

00:19:20.500 You would find a lot of information about the COVID statistics that should have made you

00:19:24.060 slow down and scratch your head.

00:19:25.860 And yet we still went barreling towards this.

00:19:28.140 There's still people that went and got vaccinated for a hamburger or or or or a beer.

00:19:32.360 So it's like, man, I don't know what we've done to the psychology of Americans.

00:19:36.060 But even if you showed them, you know, hey, in order to take Ozempic, you got to go sit

00:19:41.040 in this room for an hour and we're going to show you every single thing that can happen

00:19:45.320 to you.

00:19:45.760 What percentage of those people would still come out and be like, I don't know, being fat

00:19:48.720 sucks.

00:19:49.180 You know, gosh, so just a couple of things.

00:19:52.640 And you guys probably know some of this, but maybe for your listeners, there's only two

00:19:55.160 countries in the world that allow direct to consumer advertising for drugs, United States

00:19:58.440 and New Zealand.

00:19:59.180 And New Zealand is very regulated.

00:20:00.920 It wouldn't be what you would think here.

00:20:02.200 It'd be a very generic commercial, right?

00:20:04.020 Ours here are just what you described.

00:20:05.600 So with all of the nations in the world, the United States is 5% of the population of the

00:20:09.080 world.

00:20:09.280 We consume about 75% of the medications.

00:20:11.660 Like it's insane.

00:20:13.120 We're one of the sickest industrialized nation in the world.

00:20:15.480 We have the worst infant mortality and maternal mortality rates in the world.

00:20:17.840 Now much of this isn't exposed.

00:20:20.020 Like, you know, like you said, it doesn't make the news.

00:20:21.520 Why doesn't it make the news?

00:20:22.360 Because pharma owns the advertisement agency.

00:20:25.460 They're the budgets for most of these forms.

00:20:26.880 So like, it's not, so you're right.

00:20:28.200 Like, I don't disagree with you.

00:20:29.520 I was thinking about the Milgram's experiment.

00:20:31.320 If you remember that it was out of Yale, you guys would know the study.

00:20:34.560 They took, this is important to remember though.

00:20:36.900 They brought people in and they were asking questions to a person behind the wall.

00:20:41.420 And if they got the wrong answer, they shocked them, right?

00:20:44.360 And then this is where they studied, how do people respond to a

00:20:48.020 So like, so they had a person with a white lab coat on and a clipboard and they would

00:20:53.700 stand there and they would just say, you know, keep going.

00:20:56.140 And then they would, they, they 65% of the people went all the way to 400 volts where the

00:21:02.500 people on the other side of the wall are screaming, stop begging.

00:21:06.000 And then they just stopped responding.

00:21:07.380 So this person literally thinks they shocked somebody to death and they were willing to do

00:21:11.640 that because somebody with a white coat stood next to them and did that.

00:21:15.380 And so I agree with you.

00:21:17.820 The only thing I would say, or the only thing I can say is some people will listen, right?

00:21:22.140 So some people say, why are you so extreme?

00:21:23.560 Why are you always yelling and screaming?

00:21:24.440 Why are you so pissed off at medicine?

00:21:25.660 Well, because it almost killed me.

00:21:27.320 So that's part of my journey and part of my story.

00:21:29.340 But then partly is also somebody woke me up, right?

00:21:31.880 It's like sharing the gospel, right?

00:21:33.360 Some people say, I personally hate this.

00:21:35.040 It's not in the Bible.

00:21:35.700 They say, you know, um, they say, you know, I always share the gospel and sometimes use

00:21:39.860 words.

00:21:40.400 They don't say that in the Bible.

00:21:41.820 It says, share the gospel.

00:21:42.920 We use our words.

00:21:43.660 We're not, we're not, yeah.

00:21:44.800 Like live like a Christian, but like, we're also shared, called to share the gospel.

00:21:48.040 Somebody taught me the truth about God's laws of health and healing.

00:21:50.200 And it changed my life.

00:21:51.920 I was, I was brainwashed just like everybody.

00:21:54.200 I wasn't raised in some hippie commune that didn't take, you know, didn't take drugs.

00:21:58.280 I just, somebody talked to me one time and helped me understand that the body is designed

00:22:02.180 to heal.

00:22:02.700 And it was like, how come I've never thought about that?

00:22:04.740 And all, cause all I'm thinking about is evidently it's not designed to heal.

00:22:07.440 Look at all the people that tell me how many drugs I need.

00:22:09.760 And uncle Bob is sick and Scotty's fat.

00:22:11.900 What's going on here.

00:22:12.820 And so, you know, I, I, there is almost a, a, a, you can have a sense of, of helplessness.

00:22:17.740 I remember during COVID, like you were talking about just being so frustrated, right?

00:22:20.160 Like my family never wore a mask.

00:22:22.140 We never, ever, I never put a mask on my face or my kids the whole time.

00:22:26.540 And, you know, I've gotten thrown out a lot of stores.

00:22:28.120 My wife got sprayed in Trader Joe's with antiseptic.

00:22:30.700 Like she was the plague.

00:22:31.780 My wife's an attorney, right?

00:22:33.280 Like don't, don't do that to her.

00:22:35.280 And, um, and so, but I understand a lot of people are, they don't have the, they don't

00:22:38.600 have the balls to do that.

00:22:39.880 They don't have the guts to do that.

00:22:41.320 They're sheep.

00:22:41.940 And that starts from our education system.

00:22:43.760 That starts from just right authority.

00:22:45.400 Do what they say, do what they tell you to do.

00:22:48.160 And once those skills are ripped from your eyes, then you see the world obviously very

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00:23:19.340 Yeah, one of the things that really kind of broke that illusion for me, there's obviously

00:23:26.140 a ton of stuff.

00:23:26.760 Like I was actually talking about, just today I made a tweet and it was a, you know, how

00:23:31.940 Facebook will show you your memories from so long ago.

00:23:34.160 So 16 years ago, I posted on Facebook and I said, I must've read an article or something

00:23:39.980 that cued me off to it.

00:23:40.940 And I said, the swine flu vaccination has already killed 25 people here in the United States

00:23:49.140 and they are considering mandating it this coming fall.

00:23:54.000 And I said, are you going to get your, um, your vaccination?

00:23:58.120 And it goes to show you that this sort of thing has been happening for quite some, oh,

00:24:03.640 here it is actually.

00:24:04.840 Uh, yeah, swine flu vaccines have already killed 25 people in America so far.

00:24:08.280 They want to make them mandatory this upcoming fall.

00:24:09.860 Are you going to get one?

00:24:10.600 So, um, and, and to me that screams, you know, not, they're not trying to find actual

00:24:19.200 viable ways to heal Americans.

00:24:22.520 They are forwarding an agenda and, and that is like a, a dry run.

00:24:28.440 They're doing a little bit of a trial run.

00:24:29.940 They're testing the waters here 16 years ago.

00:24:33.100 And, uh, and obviously that one never came to pass and, and, you know, but they do that

00:24:37.200 constantly.

00:24:37.680 It's like swine flu is coming.

00:24:39.780 Uh-oh, better do, so, you know, are we going to, we might have to get, and then you get,

00:24:43.260 um, you know, H1N1 is coming.

00:24:45.340 Uh-oh, uh-oh.

00:24:46.480 Ebola for a little while.

00:24:47.620 Zika virus, right?

00:24:48.980 It's always something until they finally get what they want, which is, you know, and I,

00:24:53.920 I, I guess, um, everybody's speculating right now.

00:24:56.840 What nefarious purpose did this thing serve?

00:24:59.300 You know, this gene altering technology.

00:25:01.260 Is it just the, uh, the medical intervention that does something to the individual or is

00:25:07.020 it the, uh, the government overreach, the lockdowns, the, the destruction of the financial

00:25:11.560 system, the, the, you know, all of these, or, or is it one of these, um, why not all of

00:25:16.480 the above?

00:25:17.500 Hmm.

00:25:18.620 I remember when that H1N1 came out or when that swine flu and I, I was in practice.

00:25:23.760 I've been in practice about 21 years and I was in practice and I was one of the most

00:25:28.700 devastating experiences.

00:25:30.940 I had, I had a patient that was pregnant and they scared her into getting that shot.

00:25:35.660 She waited in line at the fairgrounds to get the shot.

00:25:39.320 She was, I think she was like six months pregnant or five months pregnant.

00:25:42.520 And this is, and this is why I call healthcare demonic.

00:25:48.620 Okay.

00:25:49.180 As she's sitting there, she waits in line.

00:25:51.340 She gets the jab.

00:25:52.860 As she gets the jab, she feels her baby die.

00:25:56.540 Her baby starts like moving around and, you know, like whatever, if you will kick in,

00:26:02.340 just kind of fight for its life.

00:26:03.400 And then it dies.

00:26:06.100 And, you know, causation isn't always correlation or whatever, but like, I think we can do the

00:26:12.000 math on that one.

00:26:13.500 And so when we have something that gets injected into people, and even if you look at, you use

00:26:18.100 that one as 25 people, look at how people freaked out about that and they pulled it off.

00:26:21.620 Yet we have, who knows for sure how many people, the COVID shot died, but there's, you know,

00:26:25.520 19,000 reported deaths to the VAERS system alone that haven't been properly investigated.

00:26:30.020 Like, so we certainly have reasons to be concerned when we sit in a place where healthy pregnant

00:26:35.900 women are being feared into going and getting a jab with chemicals in there that can cause a baby

00:26:41.060 to die.

00:26:41.520 My friends, we have a problem and we can't just look at that.

00:26:44.700 And this is what I mean.

00:26:45.320 People need to get their heads wrapped around this.

00:26:47.260 Like you're literally saying to yourself, if you believe that that's okay, meaning like

00:26:50.820 those things exist, then you're saying, we think it's okay to kill some people so others

00:26:55.660 might live.

00:26:56.160 That's human sacrifice.

00:26:57.760 That's what that is.

00:26:59.180 You got to wake up to that, especially when you get into this realm of mandating, right?

00:27:03.640 And these kinds of conversations.

00:27:04.780 So, yeah, I mean, that's heavy stuff.

00:27:07.200 It's Nephilim.

00:27:08.220 It's Nephilim shit.

00:27:09.180 I mean, we're actually going to have this guy back on right after this episode, but we

00:27:14.800 spoke to this guy, Sean of Kingdom in Context.

00:27:17.600 And we were going through some extra canonical texts, like the Book of Enoch, and he brought

00:27:22.240 up some passages from chapter seven.

00:27:23.920 I don't know where you're at on, you know, the Apocrypha, but...

00:27:27.180 I got it right in front of me.

00:27:28.600 No, there you go.

00:27:29.360 There you go.

00:27:29.820 Okay, so yeah, it's actually the first verse of chapter seven, where it talks about how

00:27:34.680 the fallen procreated with the woman.

00:27:38.180 And it's like, they used enchantments.

00:27:39.920 They were using cutting of roots.

00:27:41.800 Yeah, the cutting of roots was one of them.

00:27:44.180 Yeah.

00:27:44.500 And then it goes, and then they bore children.

00:27:46.220 And then they bore children.

00:27:47.300 You're like, wait, what?

00:27:48.020 Yeah.

00:27:48.240 So like one sentence is they took them as wives.

00:27:50.580 The next is they were using enchantments, cutting of roots, which is like pharmakia.

00:27:55.220 That's like in the Greek, when it's translated, that's kind of what it goes, what they were

00:27:59.660 talking about there.

00:28:00.560 And then they bore children.

00:28:01.900 And it's like, when you look at that, you're like, wow, were these ancient astronaut theorists,

00:28:08.760 were these ancient angels like using these techniques?

00:28:13.260 And are we still using them today?

00:28:15.180 And is this book true?

00:28:16.780 Are we learning the art of, you know, makeup, the art of war from these entities?

00:28:25.220 And why has it become so diluted?

00:28:27.120 Why is it not what God meant it to be?

00:28:29.040 If God meant it to be this at all.

00:28:31.040 And it makes a lot of sense.

00:28:32.240 You just mentioned human sacrifice, which is, I think it's crazy to say, but I think that's

00:28:37.000 a huge part of what we're looking at here, especially with, I mean, we have the abortion

00:28:40.840 clinics that are outright, which are on its face, human sacrifice.

00:28:44.460 And there's really no hiding it at this point.

00:28:46.260 But what we do with like with these mass rituals, the propaganda campaigns in order to get

00:28:50.840 people to consent to these things.

00:28:52.740 And then you see the effects of it.

00:28:54.500 And you're like, how could this be anything other than that?

00:28:58.000 And do that, the rituals and the propaganda campaigns to get people to accept these things

00:29:03.760 is like a huge, a huge portion.

00:29:06.100 Yeah, they've got to accept.

00:29:07.680 It's like, that's why the mandates are weird, right?

00:29:10.960 There's that level of consent that's not there.

00:29:13.460 But yeah.

00:29:14.140 I had a friend of mine, he uses this example, and I think it's a good one.

00:29:17.440 And he said, you know, if there was this organization that did a lot of wonderful things, whatever,

00:29:21.840 built wells in Africa and did all this wonderful stuff.

00:29:24.540 But once a year, they took a newborn child and sacrificed it.

00:29:29.600 Like you would, you would probably say, not, not supporting them.

00:29:34.300 Are you talking about Mr. Beast?

00:29:36.540 Are you talking about what happened in Haiti during the relief efforts?

00:29:40.060 Like not, not going to send them a check, right?

00:29:41.980 But actually what I'm talking about in this instance is that when it comes to the childhood

00:29:47.520 immunizations, many of those are, contain aborted fetal tissue cells.

00:29:52.960 Okay.

00:29:53.160 So this cell lines from aborted fetal tissue cells, many of them, so the COVID jabs, for

00:29:57.800 example, they were, they were tested.

00:29:59.340 None of them contain the border fetal, but they were tested on aborted fetal tissue.

00:30:02.380 So for an order of them to come to market, aborted fetal tissue cells were used.

00:30:05.800 I would encourage your listeners to go watch a, um, a, uh, uh, uh, and, uh, what do they

00:30:11.620 call that when they sit people down legally?

00:30:13.540 I, um, oh gosh, you know, deposition with Stanley Plotkin.

00:30:18.720 Okay.

00:30:19.200 P L O T K I N Dr. Stanley Plotkin.

00:30:22.300 Dr. Stanley Plotkin is, he's considered the grandfather of, of godfather of vaccines.

00:30:27.360 It's actually called the book they use in medical school is Plotkin's vaccines at the CDC.

00:30:31.860 The gavel they use is called Plotkin's gavel.

00:30:34.500 Okay.

00:30:34.940 And so there's a nine hour deposition that he is in, and it's one of the most unbelievable

00:30:40.820 depositions that you will watch.

00:30:42.140 And he talks about chopping up 68 little babies and blending them up.

00:30:46.660 And this gentleman right here, and, and he actually, they actually talk about him.

00:30:50.100 They literally said, well, cause it was the reason the case existed.

00:30:52.600 It was a divorce case between a mother and a father who had different opinions about vaccines.

00:30:57.080 And so they were, that was how this testimony came to be.

00:31:00.340 And there's a statement in there where the attorney asks him.

00:31:04.500 You know, but what do you think about like on religious rights?

00:31:06.640 And he's, he says, are you an atheist?

00:31:08.520 And Dr. Plotkin says, yes, I'm an atheist.

00:31:10.440 He says, I'm more than happy to go to hell for this.

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00:31:39.820 Okay, so weird thing to say.

00:31:44.660 Yeah, that's a weird thing to say.

00:31:46.500 So, so when that is the fountainhead of our current situation and that's applauded and

00:31:53.560 we put that as the plot can gavel at the CDC and textbooks named after him and he's on

00:31:58.820 every board of every pharma company.

00:32:00.580 And like, like, it's not, I'm not extreme.

00:32:03.740 I always say to people, I'm extreme.

00:32:04.880 That's extreme.

00:32:05.840 Taking 68 babies and cutting them up and trying to make something out of that and inject that

00:32:09.240 into people that my friends, you have to answer for, for me saying that I'm going to trust

00:32:12.840 the immune system God gave me.

00:32:14.120 That's not extreme.

00:32:15.700 What a wild concept to go.

00:32:17.320 What if we blended these up and put them in people is, is a, is a, is a, that's demonic.

00:32:21.580 I mean, you want to talk about some sort of demonic influence and people, you know, we're,

00:32:25.560 we're, we're talking about the propaganda aspect of things.

00:32:28.040 It's, it's wild because what that tweet from 16 years ago, that's roughly 10 years before,

00:32:34.280 uh, you know, COVID pops off.

00:32:35.960 And you said like 25 deaths and they pulled a swine flu vaccine.

00:32:40.160 They go, sorry, we can't do that.

00:32:41.560 What they managed to do in 10 years with the propaganda is insane to the fact that we would

00:32:47.560 all line up despite the, the amount of, you know, deaths on, on, on, on vades or whatever

00:32:52.380 the hell it's called being reported in excess of like 19,000 or something like that.

00:32:56.380 It's why a doctor, a chiropractor also has to have a podcast.

00:33:00.240 Yeah.

00:33:00.400 It's very sad.

00:33:00.980 Like you're, you have to create your own propaganda to battle again, this in a form, this is what

00:33:06.460 this show is like, this is how I started doing this, like how I started working in media and

00:33:11.740 podcasts is because of COVID specifically because of what happened and the injustices that I thought

00:33:16.820 were happening.

00:33:17.340 I was like, you know what?

00:33:17.920 I'm going to, I'm going to talk about it.

00:33:19.460 And we started like talking about it.

00:33:21.360 I mean, we use comedy in a way to kind of cut through because we're not smart.

00:33:26.580 Well, you have to do, it makes it more palatable, but that, that propaganda thing also happened

00:33:31.900 on the, on the, um, the abortion front because somehow we convince women that killing their

00:33:39.620 unborn child was synonymous with reproductive rights, with their rights, with feminism, with,

00:33:46.900 with, with, um, pushing back against attempts to suppress women.

00:33:53.240 And, and so like, we have twisted everybody's mind when it comes to these things that are

00:33:59.680 demonic.

00:34:00.220 Man, I think, you know, fear is the virus, right?

00:34:03.040 And when people, what, one of the things that you said there, I think what's, what was really

00:34:07.580 revealing about, about, about COVID in part, or, or some things you're talking about is

00:34:11.660 it really reveals how much love we have for like self-love.

00:34:15.820 Like I'm willing for, like, I will, I'm like, I'm okay with there being a border fetal tissue

00:34:22.140 in that if it might make my life better.

00:34:24.000 Like I've seen some studies on anti-aging, the demonicness of the anti-aging movement

00:34:29.540 is that most of that is built on the backs of human death.

00:34:34.080 Like we're willing to sacrifice children in the name of science so I can live longer.

00:34:40.200 And we're okay with that.

00:34:41.900 The people, the reason, like, you know, the interesting thing about early Christianity

00:34:44.820 and even the early hospitals and back in the smallpox and things like that, there were,

00:34:49.000 I mean, there was a time where Christians weren't idiots, right?

00:34:51.160 Like there was a time where we were known because we would go in the early hospitals

00:34:54.980 were Christians that were willing to go in and risk their lives to serve smallpox or just,

00:34:59.540 right?

00:34:59.740 People like, they were like, they're like, who are these people that are willing to die for

00:35:02.360 me?

00:35:02.500 They don't even know me.

00:35:03.280 And now, you know, it was shut down the church.

00:35:06.420 You know, my Bible says, lay hands on the sick and they shall recover.

00:35:09.000 2020 churches said, shut down, stay home.

00:35:11.500 We don't want to see you, right?

00:35:13.040 Like, literally stay six feet away from people.

00:35:15.420 Stay six feet away from me.

00:35:16.800 Like, what are we doing?

00:35:18.240 And I just think it revealed like how fearful we are, how fearful we are of death, how fearful

00:35:23.180 we are of, of, you know, you know, just living, living it out.

00:35:27.580 And really, do we believe what we even proclaim to believe?

00:35:29.980 Do we believe the words that are written in the scriptures?

00:35:31.820 And so I think it was really exposed the fear.

00:35:35.780 You know, we're called the fear.

00:35:36.460 One thing, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom.

00:35:38.600 The rest of this is, is, is manufactured, you know, propaganda, like you were saying.

00:35:43.040 And just so happens to be, you know, in, in healthcare, because we are creating a likeness

00:35:47.900 image of God and he knits us together in our mother's womb.

00:35:50.740 He, he knows the hairs on our head.

00:35:52.280 Like, it's such a, a powerful place for the enemy to attack, right?

00:35:56.700 Like we spend, you know, four and a half, $5 trillion a year on healthcare.

00:35:59.600 Like, you know, just, you know, kind of whatever.

00:36:02.520 And what have we, what have we done?

00:36:03.580 I think four years in a row, the life expectancy has gone down.

00:36:06.560 Suicides are through the roof.

00:36:07.480 Depression is through the roof.

00:36:08.360 25% of all childbearing age women are on antidepressant medications.

00:36:12.040 Like, and we're calling this success.

00:36:13.280 Like we're the sickest we've ever been.

00:36:14.260 We have the sickest history, kids in the history of the world.

00:36:16.420 The number one area growing of cancer is pediatric cancer.

00:36:18.580 Like what part of the modern health enterprise are you calling successful?

00:36:22.260 It's a pile of shit.

00:36:23.620 Like, what do you want to, like, prove me wrong.

00:36:26.360 Like, show me the breakthroughs.

00:36:27.440 Show me what's happening.

00:36:28.780 And it's not, it's not there.

00:36:30.220 We're more, you know, that.

00:36:31.580 So anyway, I say that because people are still hypnotized, right?

00:36:37.080 And to your point, I think, they're fear, right?

00:36:40.960 I had a woman tell me the other day, she went in, she had a three.

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00:37:12.720 Millimeter disc herniation.

00:37:14.900 Like, that's very small, okay?

00:37:16.400 Like, if you can think about that.

00:37:17.720 Just very tiny.

00:37:19.000 And she had gone in to the doctor, and she, for whatever reason, she recorded the, she recorded it.

00:37:25.600 And she shared it with me, but I didn't ask her to do that.

00:37:27.840 She just did that.

00:37:28.380 And he says to her, he says to her, if you don't get surgery.

00:37:32.800 Can I guess?

00:37:33.180 Ah, that's exactly what I was going to say is surgery.

00:37:35.620 And they want to cut you in.

00:37:37.060 If you, if you, oh, it's crazy.

00:37:38.740 If you don't get surgery, you will wake up paralyzed.

00:37:43.320 Wow.

00:37:43.680 And I, and I was like, so if you, to your point, I think if you wouldn't know any better and you're not skeptical and you're just think, you know, the, the Milgram's experiment, just because you have a white lab coat on, you know, everything.

00:37:56.000 And you tell me that I'm going to be paralyzed if I don't have surgery.

00:37:59.100 I mean, most people are going to get surgery.

00:38:00.240 Like, you're going to fall for that.

00:38:02.400 I mean, agree with, they shouldn't, but they, that they will.

00:38:04.600 So she comes in to me and she said this, it was powerful.

00:38:06.500 And then throw back at you guys, she said, she said, Dr. Ben, I just, she was like mad and angry and she's, you know, she's awoke to this stuff, but she goes, I can't get that image out of my head.

00:38:20.160 Right.

00:38:20.900 And I was like, exactly.

00:38:22.560 Why are we so fast to believe in disease?

00:38:24.780 Why are we so fast to accept a label, a diagnosis, but God forbid somebody speaks life into you, admonishment, life giving, right?

00:38:31.300 That you're designed to heal, creating likeness image of God.

00:38:33.280 Your body's done more things.

00:38:35.160 Your body does more things.

00:38:36.860 In this millisecond, then we even know how to do trillions of things in every single cell, every single second.

00:38:41.520 I say this often, you know, in all history of all time, of all the scientists, everything, they've never made one single living cell.

00:38:46.980 Yet in the 20 minutes we've been talking, your body's made millions of them without being told what to do, without getting a pill.

00:38:51.600 So we need to like, look at the wisdom of the, of the, of the ages, the Holy spirit within the God within.

00:38:57.320 And, and we need to understand that, that, that power compared to like the best that man's got.

00:39:02.400 He says, even, even the smartest is, is ridiculous, right?

00:39:06.200 That's the paraphrasing massively from the scriptures there.

00:39:08.560 But like, even the wisest of you is foolishness to God.

00:39:11.700 Okay.

00:39:12.220 Yeah.

00:39:12.460 We look at scientists out of Baylor say that we know less than 1% about the workings of the human body.

00:39:17.360 Well, I wouldn't take my car to a mechanic that know 1% of working on cars.

00:39:21.000 All right.

00:39:21.560 The, the, the reality is the body is infinitely complicated and we have to be really, really,

00:39:25.640 really careful about messing with that thing and acting like we're improving it.

00:39:28.900 And it's shown itself not to be true.

00:39:31.020 It's shown itself not to work out by all of the things that we're talking about today.

00:39:35.760 Man.

00:39:36.260 You know, my, it's my, my wife was a, well, she still is a nurse, a registered nurse.

00:39:40.960 Yeah.

00:39:41.280 And, uh, when we moved to Florida, she got really sick from some crazy circumstances.

00:39:45.920 She had Lyme disease and it popped up.

00:39:48.460 We had no idea.

00:39:49.660 It ran, ran the gamut on her of everything that it could, you know, affect.

00:39:53.980 And she was bedridden for a month.

00:39:56.520 She ended up seeing one doctor and he wanted to put her on a pill that, uh, I don't know

00:40:01.440 what it is, but she said she would have been on it for the rest of her life.

00:40:04.080 And she recognized what the pill was.

00:40:05.880 And she was like, I can't do that.

00:40:08.420 And now this is someone who's firmly planted in Western medicine because it's what she went

00:40:12.380 to school for.

00:40:13.140 And she wasn't like, you know, she didn't get the vax or anything.

00:40:15.960 Thank God.

00:40:16.480 Cause that could have been like, I've seen marriages broken up over, you know, that kind

00:40:20.960 of stuff.

00:40:21.820 Um, but, uh, so she saw this pill, she rejected it.

00:40:26.440 She went the holistic route and we were doing, uh, you know, IV infusions of like vitamin C

00:40:32.580 high dose and, uh, glutathione and all kinds of other stuff.

00:40:36.200 Actually, I saw you had interviewed Dr. Peter McCullough.

00:40:39.420 Um, the doctor over here that we went to was associated with him through the FLCCC.

00:40:46.020 I think at the time I don't, yeah, I think that's the organization.

00:40:49.180 So I saw that outside.

00:40:50.240 I was like, okay, this lady, you know, it was probably better than a standard doctor.

00:40:54.760 She helped out and we saw more people and we actually started going to the chiropractor

00:40:58.760 as well.

00:40:59.260 We stopped since because it's, it's expensive, but we, we were going there and all of these

00:41:04.440 things like were extremely beneficial, just like the holistic route of, uh, I mean, if

00:41:09.480 you go out into the pantry now, it's just all kinds of supplements and shit like that

00:41:12.760 out there.

00:41:13.040 Yeah.

00:41:13.060 This guy's got like a small vitamin shop in his, uh, you know, parasite cleanses, um,

00:41:19.160 supplements, chiropractor held just eating, you know, eating right or trying to eat.

00:41:25.060 You guys did red, red light therapy as well too, right?

00:41:27.180 Like, yeah, red light therapy, the sauna, we have a sauna up there and I'm telling you,

00:41:31.040 dude, within like three months, like we completely turned her around and she's good now, but

00:41:36.600 otherwise she would have been, well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what, yeah, a lifelong

00:41:40.140 drug would have been better.

00:41:41.520 I think, I don't know why you guys went through all that.

00:41:43.560 Maybe surgery.

00:41:44.400 They should have just cut her open, right?

00:41:45.760 I think she should still be on that medication right now.

00:41:47.920 I don't know why you're so, so you guys, so what's a fascinating, if you, um, if you go

00:41:54.260 to my podcast, I had, uh, an episode and I'm just trying to think of her last name.

00:41:58.660 Oh my gosh.

00:41:59.260 She's from Stanford.

00:42:00.980 Um, she wrote the book on, on, um, Lyme disease.

00:42:05.600 I'm using this as an example.

00:42:06.800 So glad to hear your wife recovering and recovered, but, um, look as Lyme can be a battle, right?

00:42:11.900 But, but it's pretty, it's pretty much acknowledged now that Lyme disease was made to, was created

00:42:18.920 and they, and they put it in ticks and they use ticks.

00:42:21.880 They dropped them off.

00:42:23.020 They sprayed them over.

00:42:23.900 They dropped them off.

00:42:24.660 So here we sit, right?

00:42:27.400 We're, we live in a place.

00:42:28.920 Oh my gosh.

00:42:29.440 I wish I could remember her name.

00:42:30.540 She's a great interview.

00:42:31.540 She really blew the whistle.

00:42:32.520 She got to all of the notebooks from the guy that worked in the labs and, and blew the whistle

00:42:36.820 on a lot of this.

00:42:37.600 And, um, it's really important because if you don't, and I just believe this, if you

00:42:43.020 don't understand, it's like, if you don't know how bad something is, then you won't know

00:42:46.400 you're in a fight.

00:42:46.880 You don't bring a water gun to a, you know, wildfire.

00:42:49.400 If you don't know how corrupted the medical system is and the science, the top, some of

00:42:53.400 the, some of the top medical journals, uh, editors for the BMJ to the Lancet to the New

00:42:57.900 England journal of medicine are on record of saying, for example, one of them said that

00:43:01.880 only 6% of the science that makes it in those journals is reproducible or valid.

00:43:05.900 Another one said that 90% of it is bought and paid.

00:43:09.360 Like, this is a problem.

00:43:10.920 And God bless your wife.

00:43:11.880 I don't mean, nurses are some of my favorite people because they see most of the BS.

00:43:15.500 They see the egos and the destruction of the docs.

00:43:18.500 And then they, they're the ones left to pick up the mess.

00:43:20.660 Right.

00:43:20.980 And they're, and stuff.

00:43:22.160 I've not, it's not the people like, it's not the people.

00:43:25.100 It's the, it's the, it's the system.

00:43:26.920 Right.

00:43:27.120 And the system, my brother-in-law is the president of a hospital.

00:43:30.180 Like, you know, it's, it's a, it's a disaster.

00:43:32.540 It's not his fault, but he's certainly not, not part of the solution.

00:43:35.300 And so I think that until we realize how bad it is, we'll keep giving them the benefit

00:43:39.420 of the doubt.

00:43:40.020 We'll keep saying like, oh, what are you going to do?

00:43:43.280 You know, blah, blah, blah.

00:43:44.500 And I think that's, what's leading to so much of this, just apathy.

00:43:48.320 Yeah.

00:43:48.740 It's, it's like, I get, I get giving them the benefit of the doubt because we've been

00:43:53.180 put in a situation where it's like, these are people that we know that we love that we

00:43:56.900 care about.

00:43:57.280 But I'm like, at what point do I say, listen, I understand exactly what's going on here.

00:44:01.140 And it's, if some people are brought for sure, like I know that there are stipulations for

00:44:06.280 doctors, if you're, if you have a hundred percent compliance or close to it for vaccination

00:44:10.220 with your kids, you get all this stuff.

00:44:13.200 But the fact is they go through college, then they go and get their master's and they get

00:44:17.460 their doctorate.

00:44:18.180 And these things are very expensive.

00:44:19.760 Then they start their private practice.

00:44:21.360 And through Obamacare, you have to have all of this infrastructure set up before you could

00:44:25.640 even be compliant or they'll shut you down.

00:44:27.720 It's like, so now you're in it a couple hundred thousand dollars and years of your life.

00:44:33.520 Well, now I'm telling you what you have to do.

00:44:36.540 By the way, you were put on that path since elementary school, middle school, high school.

00:44:41.780 By the time you decided what you wanted to do, you were already indoctrinated into a system

00:44:45.520 that said, oh, you want to be this or do this?

00:44:47.660 You have to go through these pathways.

00:44:48.880 Yeah, but they see it.

00:44:49.460 They see it when they're up close.

00:44:50.960 I know that they see it.

00:44:51.600 Oh, once you get it up close.

00:44:52.680 Yeah.

00:44:52.820 But the thing is, you cannot defer from it because there's a lot of, there's so many

00:44:57.940 monetary ties and then also social ties, right?

00:45:00.280 I'll be rejected from the community.

00:45:01.860 Sure.

00:45:02.880 Ostracized, ridiculed, called a kook.

00:45:04.860 Excuse my French though.

00:45:06.020 I don't give a fuck because you know better.

00:45:09.680 You should know better and you can't be out there hurting people.

00:45:12.400 So it's like, I don't know what to do.

00:45:15.040 It's a diffusion of responsibility when you go like, even once you realize and you do know

00:45:18.520 better, you look around and you go, millions have followed this exact route, gone on to

00:45:22.860 make money.

00:45:23.760 Well, no, they've been threatened.

00:45:25.060 You've been threatened in a way to continue your behavior and you're being rewarded for

00:45:29.440 it, but they understand what's happening.

00:45:31.340 And it's like, it's coming to a point where there has to be some sort of recompense for

00:45:36.980 this.

00:45:37.100 I don't know what that recompense looks like, but I know one thing.

00:45:40.200 We've given these people too much time.

00:45:42.440 Yeah.

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00:46:04.540 Goodbye to rumble.

00:46:05.900 What do you, where do you put that?

00:46:07.580 I, that's a, I know it's a, it's a controversial idea, but like, man, like I remember during COVID,

00:46:13.080 especially living in New York and dealing with this.

00:46:15.400 I was like, what do I do?

00:46:17.720 What do I do?

00:46:18.700 What is to be done with these people who have sat by, seen what happened and not just allowed

00:46:24.860 it.

00:46:25.100 So you're talking about the personal responsibility aspect.

00:46:26.380 I'm talking about the doctors.

00:46:27.600 I'm talking about the doctors.

00:46:28.920 Yeah.

00:46:29.220 Yeah.

00:46:29.420 It's like, you need, I think we, we need doctors as well because these are brilliant people

00:46:34.160 and they do help, but their curriculum that they're, that they are in.

00:46:39.340 Um, everything is based off of, um, uh, maintenance, not curing.

00:46:44.280 So they want to, they want to, you know, uh, sort of keep a lifelong ready.

00:46:48.740 And you can look at the trans movement as a big representative representation of that

00:46:53.120 model where it's like, we want to keep you coming back through the door.

00:46:56.340 It's a business model rather than one where you actually heal the individual.

00:47:00.420 Well, some of it's, some of it's a business model.

00:47:02.380 Some of it is just straight detrimental to the health of people and is really hurting

00:47:07.820 them.

00:47:08.080 And they still do it.

00:47:09.000 It's like, yeah, what, I don't know.

00:47:10.800 I think you said something there top that I think was interesting, which is, um, and

00:47:17.160 I, I don't disagree with you.

00:47:18.320 Let me just clarify a couple of things.

00:47:19.700 So, so emergency medicine, right?

00:47:22.480 Like, like, like, like if I had his lane on the other side of the street, like don't

00:47:26.420 take me to the chiropractor, right?

00:47:27.580 Like, I think we all grasp that here's what people don't really think about though.

00:47:31.480 So that emergency medicine, that's about two to 3% of healthcare.

00:47:35.760 Okay.

00:47:36.000 So we're talking about everything else here, right?

00:47:38.780 97, 98% of healthcare is the other stuff we're talking about.

00:47:42.100 Diabetes, heart disease, whatever, cancer.

00:47:43.860 And they do a very poor job at that.

00:47:45.700 But here's the point.

00:47:46.680 So there was a, there was a study 2009.

00:47:48.440 This was published in the journal, the American medical association, uh, Dr.

00:47:51.980 Kilo, K I L O, and another doctor, master's in public health.

00:47:55.600 Here's what they said.

00:47:56.420 And I am pretty close to his exact quote here.

00:47:58.860 They said, um, their summary at the end of it was, and the title of the article, I believe

00:48:03.160 was the, um, understanding the harmful effects of modern healthcare.

00:48:07.920 All right.

00:48:08.160 And so what they did real simple, they just added it up.

00:48:10.180 They did what you would, we would do.

00:48:11.560 They just said like, how many people die from the drugs over, you know, how many people

00:48:14.280 this, how many people that.

00:48:15.400 And at the end of it, they, their statement is, um, it's critical that we, um, you know,

00:48:21.760 understand, or it's possible that the modern healthcare enterprise is causing more harm

00:48:27.640 than good.

00:48:28.900 Okay.

00:48:29.260 So this is like, this is crazy.

00:48:31.800 Like, think of it like this.

00:48:32.860 If, if we brought firemen into town and brought, built a bunch of fire stations, and all of

00:48:36.840 a sudden we started having more fires, more people dying in fires, and it's getting worse

00:48:39.560 and we're spending a hundred million dollars a year to have firemen in our town.

00:48:42.980 Like something's not adding up.

00:48:44.760 So although, and I think what you, you mentioned there is like, Hey, they do do some good.

00:48:49.600 The problem is, are we getting even close to an ROI?

00:48:53.020 We spend an 18% of our GDP on it.

00:48:55.100 $5 trillion a year.

00:48:56.160 People are mandated into it.

00:48:57.580 People are forced to do things, to go to school, to do this other thing.

00:49:00.020 And yet we're getting sicker and it's not working.

00:49:01.880 Like at some point we don't just, we, yeah, we don't just let them go to your point.

00:49:05.520 We don't just let them go like, well, you know, they do some good.

00:49:07.680 Well, it's true.

00:49:08.220 There's a lot of things that do some good.

00:49:09.360 My neighbor lady does some good.

00:49:10.440 I don't give her $5 trillion to keep up doing what she wants to do.

00:49:13.420 Like, it's not an excuse.

00:49:14.620 I'm not saying you're saying that's an excuse.

00:49:15.940 I just mean like, this is the game that we kind of play.

00:49:18.060 Cause there's this fear like, well, Hey, what do we do?

00:49:20.680 What do we not do?

00:49:21.360 And the reality is, you know, if, if, if the healthcare system did collapse and I'm a,

00:49:25.960 I'm a believer that it needs to, um, then, you know, there's going to be a lot of

00:49:30.160 a redistribution, right?

00:49:31.480 There's going to be a lot of intelligent, smart people like doctors and nurses, your wife,

00:49:35.140 those people that are, you know, and there's been, there's been times where people

00:49:38.480 tried to start like holistic hospitals and things like that.

00:49:40.680 And the end, they end just like you think, right?

00:49:42.260 They get shut down by the authorities, right?

00:49:44.360 They, they do anything they can to shut them down.

00:49:46.900 So we really are in a, in a difficult position.

00:49:49.140 So I think most of what I try to do with patients right now is just, it's just do maybe what

00:49:54.460 you guys are doing.

00:49:55.080 You're just trying to, at the end of the day, it's your health, right?

00:49:57.240 At the end of the day, it's a decision between you and your family and, you know, just encouraging

00:50:00.980 people to engage in that model less or try to find ways to get outside of it.

00:50:04.400 And I know it is frustrating.

00:50:05.660 I just walked out of a meeting with a woman today who daughter has a pretty serious situation

00:50:10.020 going on and she wants to do holistic healthcare, but she said, she's like, I can't afford it.

00:50:14.120 It's one of my big, I really do hate that.

00:50:16.220 I hate that for people because, you know, certainly sitting in a situation where, you know, we do

00:50:20.500 know that God created us and he did a brilliant job of that.

00:50:23.880 So it's, it's, it really breaks my heart.

00:50:26.460 It'd be like saying that, you know, salvation, you know, I can't afford to be saved.

00:50:30.420 You know what I mean?

00:50:30.880 Right.

00:50:31.140 Like health in a sense is a gift, all health and all healing is, is God's grace in our

00:50:35.800 lives.

00:50:36.100 And it's a universal grace.

00:50:37.280 It's there for the believer and the unbeliever.

00:50:39.040 There's certain things that are available to believers as it relates to healing.

00:50:41.900 But, you know, it, and, and the Lord had a lot to say about healing three quarters of

00:50:45.540 the gospel or the new Testament is healing miracles, right?

00:50:48.140 There's amazing healing in the Bible.

00:50:49.960 When I wrote my book designed to heal, I went from Genesis to revelation and pulled out

00:50:53.400 all the healing scriptures.

00:50:54.960 There's, there's healing scriptures in every book of the Bible.

00:50:57.080 And about 75% of them actually had to deal with the mind.

00:51:00.400 And I thought that was fascinating, right?

00:51:02.120 Anxieties and, and stresses and things like that.

00:51:05.060 Of course, there's the miraculous stories of rising from the dead and, you know, bleeding

00:51:08.740 for, you know, 12 years, stopping and hunched over for 18 years.

00:51:12.220 Some of my favorite miracles to talk about blindness, you know, casting out demons.

00:51:16.520 These are very real things.

00:51:17.620 And it's still, it still is real today.

00:51:19.680 Um, and so I just feel like, you know, part of my, my hope is as certainly for body believers,

00:51:25.020 it's hard with the secular, I get it, right?

00:51:27.100 Like, I don't know, they're going to, they have faith in something else.

00:51:29.640 They have faith in pills, potions, and lotions.

00:51:31.560 But for people that claim to be Christians, then I think we need to have a serious conversation

00:51:35.600 about what does that look like?

00:51:37.120 How do we walk that out, right?

00:51:38.180 How do we actually live our faith out, um, in that?

00:51:42.060 Well, I kind of want to go back to something you were saying before, uh, in regards to Lyme disease

00:51:47.180 and it potentially having been, and I do believe that I say potentially just because

00:51:50.900 I don't know it, uh, but it is something that I suspect to be true.

00:51:54.400 No, honestly, I think it's 100% because the symptoms that my wife had were insane.

00:51:59.600 I mean, from your, from her fingertips to her toes to vertigo to like just about any kind

00:52:04.840 of illness you can have.

00:52:05.840 You can think of, yeah.

00:52:06.880 It's like ran the gamut of everything.

00:52:08.500 I was like, what the fuck?

00:52:09.320 What are the symptoms?

00:52:10.240 Pretty much everything.

00:52:11.120 How do you, uh, heal it?

00:52:12.540 Well, you don't.

00:52:13.120 It's lifelong maintenance.

00:52:14.020 But, um, this idea that it was weaponized, that it was a bio weapon is something that

00:52:18.640 I suspect deeply to be true.

00:52:20.300 And it's wild because I imagine they did that undercover of night, right?

00:52:24.740 Um, but they don't have to do that anymore in the same way that they propagandized us

00:52:28.620 to believe that like abortion is part of, uh, the reproductive rights or how 10 years

00:52:33.040 before COVID we said no to the swine flu vaccine, but then we say yes to the COVID vaccine and

00:52:37.640 a burger and a, and a, and a, and a beer, um, is the same way now that they seem to be

00:52:43.320 comfortable enough telling us we're going to engineer mosquitoes and we're going to

00:52:48.440 release them into public and we're going to integrate them somehow one way or another

00:52:52.760 with the COVID vaccination.

00:52:54.020 And they were releasing articles about this for a time.

00:52:56.800 And I try not to get too wrapped up in this because I think a lot of it is like fear porn,

00:53:00.300 right?

00:53:00.500 And I don't, um, you know, we could have a larger discussion on, on this idea of fear

00:53:04.740 that we were talking about earlier.

00:53:05.980 And it very much resonated with me what you were saying, where it's like the base, the

00:53:09.320 real illness, the real disease is fear.

00:53:11.520 And I agree with that wholeheartedly.

00:53:12.980 So I don't look at this one too much, but it does sound a lot like the tick situation

00:53:18.600 and, and, you know, the Lyme disease bioweapon is the same thing that they're trying to do,

00:53:24.460 but they're no longer doing it under cloak and dagger.

00:53:27.420 They're doing it out in the open.

00:53:29.100 They're writing articles saying, Hey guys, don't worry.

00:53:31.620 I know that you're fearful about, you know, COVID we're engineering mosquitoes now.

00:53:37.160 And, and when you think about the Zika virus and how there was like this big push for a

00:53:42.140 moment where everybody goes, is that going to be the one, is this going to be the new

00:53:45.040 pandemic?

00:53:45.440 And then that kind of fell to the wayside.

00:53:47.420 I think, um, there's two things about this.

00:53:51.360 Number one, hugely dangerous, hugely dangerous that they're bioengineering, uh, uh, uh, mosquitoes

00:53:58.860 to be, you know, I guess, tiny flying vaccine machines, but number two hats off to the propaganda

00:54:05.960 that we exist in a time where you can tell us that in article after article, and we don't

00:54:11.900 burn you at the stake because there was a time where they at least had to do these things

00:54:17.880 in some sort of military, you know, deep underground military base, and then release

00:54:21.160 it colloquially.

00:54:22.360 Uh, and, and they're now just telling us like, Oh, don't worry, we're going to do it.

00:54:25.580 And you're going to, you're going to enjoy it.

00:54:27.140 Um, I think that you, you bring up a really good point.

00:54:31.200 So I don't know if you guys have seen this and I agree with you.

00:54:33.900 I can't give it too much in my brain sometimes.

00:54:35.840 Cause I, I just, it will consume me in Japan or no, it might've been the UK.

00:54:40.700 They approved.

00:54:41.600 This is a couple of months ago.

00:54:42.400 I think it was in June.

00:54:43.560 Um, but they call it self replicating or self spreading vaccines, right?

00:54:47.720 Which is that it's going to literally, so, so they, that, and it literally like to your

00:54:51.580 point, they say in the literature, like this is because then for those people that won't

00:54:55.520 get vaccinated, then they're still going to get the vaccine.

00:54:59.000 You know, we came up during MRNA.

00:55:00.220 A lot of people were asking questions about shedding and some of those, you know, some

00:55:03.100 of those, I, I had some scientists that were friends of mine that, that called me and they

00:55:07.300 said, listen, and they're very nice, but this is, then I think is a good intersection of

00:55:11.220 the faith right here.

00:55:12.040 So he said to me, Hey Ben, if I was you, I know you lay out, you know, just patients,

00:55:17.460 you know, I mean, that's physical job.

00:55:18.720 I lay it, you know, lay on them and have to do things.

00:55:20.440 He said, he said, if knowing what I know, if I was you, I would, I would not, I would

00:55:26.840 not see vaccinated people.

00:55:28.260 That's what he told me.

00:55:29.240 Right.

00:55:29.400 Oh, that's interesting.

00:55:30.760 And, uh, and I said, and I just said to him, and I just said, I appreciate you calling

00:55:36.520 me and I appreciate your perspective, however, just who I am and what I believe God's called

00:55:43.220 me to do.

00:55:43.840 Um, I lay hands on the sick and that's what I'm going to do.

00:55:46.700 Right.

00:55:47.040 And so I'm not saying everybody's going to come to that answer, but I just, my faith is

00:55:50.740 what my faith is that.

00:55:52.200 Right.

00:55:52.460 And so, you know, you'll, you know, you'll get, you'll get bit by snakes and you shall

00:55:55.700 not die.

00:55:56.180 Like I have a part of me that has to operate in that realm as a believer.

00:55:59.620 It doesn't mean I go around licking toilets and I'm injecting, you know, poison into my body

00:56:03.640 on a daily basis.

00:56:04.260 But I believe, I just, I can't live in the fear.

00:56:06.900 I can't live in the fear of that.

00:56:08.000 They also, I also think you remember a long time.

00:56:11.320 Remember, remember Al Gore's documentary, but we're back in the day, the climate one, remember

00:56:15.160 that when Al Gore came out, I can't remember the name of it, but weird enough, my wife's

00:56:19.900 alma mater, he was giving a talk.

00:56:21.600 This was like 20 some years ago.

00:56:22.980 And we went to the talk.

00:56:24.200 I remember.

00:56:24.740 And he said something, regardless of the climate change stuff, he said this, and it always

00:56:27.900 stuck with me.

00:56:28.380 He said, you know, there was unintended consequences.

00:56:31.280 This was his argument.

00:56:32.160 Right.

00:56:32.340 And when we start to play God, to your point, when we start manipulating something, we start

00:56:36.920 putting some, you know, bugs out there, you know, using a mosquito as a vector for inoculation

00:56:42.620 or something like that, like, and it becomes self-spreading or it's mutated or whatever

00:56:47.760 it is.

00:56:48.180 It's like, this ends poorly, right?

00:56:50.640 You're not going to fool God.

00:56:51.800 You're not going to, you're not going to mock him, right?

00:56:55.680 He's, and so the fact that we, that the, the audacity and the ego and the pride that

00:57:01.240 we think we're smarter than God and that we're going to fix or improve upon his design is

00:57:06.540 blasphemy.

00:57:08.200 And it's, and it's led us to this place, which is, we think that we're gods.

00:57:12.600 I mean, in the sense that we think we are God and we think we're going to fool him.

00:57:15.660 And then, and then, and then of course we put, you know, doctors into kind of that, that

00:57:19.120 deity position, right?

00:57:20.780 So many times I'll meet with patients and they'll, they'll say, I don't want to take this

00:57:23.700 drug, but I don't want to tell it to my doctor.

00:57:25.980 I'm like, are you, what are you talking about?

00:57:28.580 Like they don't, you know, it's weird.

00:57:30.120 It's a weird thing, right?

00:57:31.560 Like that would be weird.

00:57:32.340 Like be like you saying, you know, I don't want to tell my car mechanic, you know, that

00:57:36.200 it's still rattles.

00:57:37.220 Like he might be mad at me.

00:57:38.660 Like, no, you want it, you want it fixed.

00:57:40.360 And so there's a lot that, that has to happen.

00:57:42.240 What I don't know, like you were alluding to one of you is, I don't know if it'll be

00:57:46.000 like a bandaid ripped off and the world wakes up and there's, we're finally just done with

00:57:49.940 the model.

00:57:50.660 Right.

00:57:51.140 Or if it'll be, I don't know.

00:57:52.500 I don't know how it will play out.

00:57:54.140 I thought more people would have.

00:57:55.300 Yeah.

00:57:55.660 Go ahead.

00:57:56.440 Yeah.

00:57:56.640 It's, it's, it's why I asked the question about like, what do you do with the doctors?

00:57:59.820 Because if you, if a study definitively comes out that, uh, you know, doctors have been

00:58:05.640 suggesting and basically forcing vaccines on kids.

00:58:09.280 And I mean, you know, the autism rate is up like thousands of percent during the, the

00:58:13.540 lockdowns, there was horror stories of kids at school coming back and being like, oh yeah,

00:58:17.420 they gave us a shot at school today.

00:58:19.320 Yeah.

00:58:19.580 No parental consent.

00:58:20.600 But it's like, what do you do with these guys?

00:58:23.460 Because something, something organized has got to happen.

00:58:27.180 Otherwise, if you rip that bandaid off, this is a mess.

00:58:29.980 I've thought about this a lot.

00:58:31.100 Like societally, that is bad news.

00:58:33.560 You can't tell parents like your actions, uh, cause this to your child, but realistically

00:58:38.840 they're going to go, no, no, no, no.

00:58:40.060 I was given this advice by this guy with the rope and mess, but you got two things in play

00:58:46.260 here.

00:58:46.420 You got the prep act, which allowed them to essentially do anything.

00:58:50.600 Okay.

00:58:50.840 So if we're going to use the COVID jab specifically, and then we have, of course, the 1986 vaccine

00:58:55.120 vaccine act, which allowed, you know, vaccine manufacturers have immunity.

00:58:59.740 They cannot be sued.

00:59:00.900 And so now there's some, there's some powers.

00:59:03.140 Yeah.

00:59:03.280 So crazy.

00:59:03.940 There's some, you know, there's some discussion right now, if that's going to be changed and

00:59:07.800 it should be changed so they can be held liable.

00:59:09.620 But until, you know, those things change to your point, I don't, I think that it won't

00:59:15.760 be, you know, we say this all the time.

00:59:18.080 I mean, you look at all of the, like the Sackler stuff with the Purdue labs, with the

00:59:21.340 Oxycontin and all that, like nobody went to jail.

00:59:24.480 None of them went to jail.

00:59:26.560 None of them.

00:59:27.720 And so until people, like, I agree with you and tell people go to jail for this stuff,

00:59:32.060 right?

00:59:32.340 Like nobody's like, what's your, what's your, you know, you're going to just hide behind

00:59:35.920 the, the immunity.

00:59:36.760 You're going to hide behind the laws.

00:59:37.920 You're going to hide behind, you know, I didn't know any better.

00:59:40.440 It's going to be the, you know, that's why people have called for essentially, you know,

00:59:43.380 Nuremberg trials 2.0 based upon what happened during COVID and crimes against humanity.

00:59:48.160 I think it's a fair, I think it's a fair position.

00:59:50.100 I agree with you.

00:59:50.860 I mean, that would be my, my prayer.

00:59:52.720 I mean, you hear whispers sometimes and you hope that somebody is going to be held accountable

00:59:55.800 from Fauci to, you know, uh, the, the other people worked in the, on the gain of function

01:00:00.660 stuff, but I don't know if we'll see that day.

01:00:02.420 But I, it just doesn't seem like it.

01:00:04.240 I mean, Fauci was able to do the same thing twice in a row with the AZT situation and the

01:00:09.120 AIDS epidemic.

01:00:09.740 And, and, you know, it's like, as far as people being held accountable, who was held accountable

01:00:14.340 for the crack epidemic of the eighties where they, they use the cocaine to fund the Iran

01:00:18.580 contra wars.

01:00:19.200 And then you had like freeway, Ricky Ross, he went to prison for some time.

01:00:22.440 And I think the guy who like flew the planes maybe went to prison, but what about all the,

01:00:26.660 the opioid epidemics that hit us while we were guarding the opioid fields in Afghanistan?

01:00:30.560 What about the guys facilitating the actual crack?

01:00:32.640 That's what I'm saying.

01:00:33.440 It's like, so I don't know, historically speaking, nobody's held accountable.

01:00:38.400 I think that that's why, like, cause I, I kind of came into the political sphere, into

01:00:42.860 social media through this idea.

01:00:46.060 And it's like, yeah, we're going to, you know, prosecute Fauci and all these things.

01:00:49.920 And after a while you're like, I don't think that that's going to happen.

01:00:53.280 Yeah.

01:00:53.600 And then you have to look a little bit deeper.

01:00:55.940 And I had some Christian route, Christian roots.

01:00:58.160 And we just, we started to discover, well, what if I looked at this through the biblical

01:01:02.040 lens?

01:01:02.440 Like, what if I put that up and just sort of, it makes a lot more sense through that lens,

01:01:07.740 through the Christian landscape, through that scope.

01:01:11.160 But I wanted to ask you more about, cause this is, this is really blackpilling.

01:01:15.740 I don't like this conversation.

01:01:17.480 Well, I mean, look, it's, it's ultimately not, but this is a fallen world, right?

01:01:21.700 It's just something that.

01:01:22.180 And there's a narrow path.

01:01:23.340 There is like Jesus Christ is what you should be focusing on.

01:01:25.600 But, but as far as, I don't know, well, it's something that has, that's happened and we

01:01:29.440 got to talk about it, you know, every so often too, because I forget myself that this has

01:01:34.360 happened and like how angry I was.

01:01:36.200 Cause I was right there in the belly of the beast, got away from it.

01:01:39.660 Um, so that's good.

01:01:41.740 But I want to talk about like your, your practice.

01:01:44.620 Um, and actually like the body actually healing itself, as, as you mentioned, like, you're

01:01:50.580 not afraid to work with sick patients and you're going to help them, you're going to

01:01:55.520 help align them hopefully to clear their pathways so that there's like a better, like, I know

01:02:00.780 that you can do certain techniques for there to be better drainage for them to get rid of

01:02:04.780 these toxins in their body.

01:02:06.000 Can you just tell us like a little bit about that?

01:02:08.720 Like how, how does that work?

01:02:11.500 Yeah.

01:02:12.760 It reminds me of like the scriptures, right?

01:02:14.800 Paul, you know, truth and grace, right?

01:02:16.320 Like we need both, right?

01:02:17.460 I mean, I need a, I need a fire and brimstone sermon.

01:02:19.600 And then I also need, I need to be reminded that he, that he does love me.

01:02:23.640 Right.

01:02:24.400 Um, the solutions, you know, the actual solutions.

01:02:27.400 Um, so one of the things that I, that I love about chiropractic and it's just to get started

01:02:33.740 in that conversation is, you know, um, when I remember like one of my first days of, of

01:02:38.620 school and chiropractic, there was this car, the professor put up this, you know, probably

01:02:42.820 I think it was an overhead projector.

01:02:43.940 And it said, um, when, when a person dies at a hundred years old, uh, medicine asks, how

01:02:51.780 did they die?

01:02:53.320 Chiropractic asks, how did they live?

01:02:55.300 Right.

01:02:55.420 Like chiropractic is a study of life and what makes people live.

01:02:58.280 Medicine is a study of disease and what people, how people die.

01:03:01.080 And that's a foundationally different approach.

01:03:03.060 So the typical medical system, we'll just call allopathic, right?

01:03:07.100 Diagnosis treatment of those diagnosis with drugs.

01:03:09.860 And we could talk about that.

01:03:10.980 We're not, we've talked a lot about that.

01:03:12.280 And then the other side is more of a vitalistic model, right?

01:03:14.280 Which is this understanding that the body is a self-healing, self-regulating organism

01:03:18.120 in a sense, needs no help, just no interference.

01:03:20.340 We're really good at interfering with it.

01:03:22.240 So one of the principles I love about chiropractic is that it isn't that I'm

01:03:25.400 not necessarily fix or cure anything.

01:03:27.780 It's that we've removed interferences, or I think like you mentioned, maybe, you know,

01:03:31.720 impedance or things that are blocking in a very simple example, maybe information from

01:03:36.020 the brain to the body.

01:03:37.260 So my story of my own healing through chiropractic was I had massive digestives.

01:03:42.640 If I was training for the 96 Olympics as a boxer and got sick, didn't know what to do.

01:03:47.880 I grew up in the traditional healthcare system.

01:03:49.920 My mom says, go to the doctor.

01:03:51.200 I go to the doctor.

01:03:51.980 They do an upper GI and a lower GI.

01:03:54.080 I remember waking up and the doctor's holding, you know, the print-off pictures of all these

01:03:58.000 lesions through my digestive system, just these black tar bleeding ulcers all over.

01:04:02.500 So many, they stopped counting.

01:04:04.040 And I said, I said, what do I do?

01:04:05.660 He said, you take these drugs, these two drugs.

01:04:07.980 I said, for how long?

01:04:08.640 He said, forever.

01:04:09.700 I didn't know any better.

01:04:11.260 Took those medications.

01:04:12.280 They made me worse.

01:04:13.080 I gained, I went from 165 pounds to 245 pounds.

01:04:16.580 I go in every six months, get my scans redone.

01:04:18.920 My lesions were either getting worse or staying the same.

01:04:20.980 Nothing's getting better.

01:04:22.240 Somebody told me I should go to the chiropractor after about three and a half years.

01:04:25.080 I kind of said, well, what would that do?

01:04:26.660 What would that matter?

01:04:27.900 But in a sense, I had nothing to lose.

01:04:29.600 So I went there and he found pressure in the area of my spine of the nerves that went

01:04:33.140 to my digestive system.

01:04:34.420 It doesn't work this way for everybody, but this is what happened to me.

01:04:37.360 Gave me an adjustment.

01:04:38.060 Now, mind you, I've been doing this for three and a half years every day, taking two drugs

01:04:41.860 and not getting any better.

01:04:44.040 Matter of fact, getting worse.

01:04:45.280 Within one week of those adjustments, I got off the drugs I'd been on.

01:04:48.060 I lost 67 pounds in four months, went two months later, got my scans redone and my lesions

01:04:53.440 were completely healed.

01:04:54.520 It's amazing, but it's not a miracle.

01:04:56.460 You're designed to heal.

01:04:57.520 We had to remove the interferences to that.

01:04:59.380 So a chiropractic approach is going to come through that lens, which I know your body's

01:05:03.840 infinitely intelligent.

01:05:04.960 It wants you to heal.

01:05:06.580 It's doing everything it can.

01:05:08.100 When a person's blood pressure is high, it's not the body saying, I know, I want to kill

01:05:12.360 them.

01:05:12.740 I'm going to raise their blood pressure.

01:05:13.880 It's trying to meet the demands of the body to get nutrient oxygen to the tissue cells

01:05:18.100 and get the waste products away.

01:05:20.100 When your body has a fever, it's not going, I know what I'll do.

01:05:22.980 I'll try to kill this kid.

01:05:24.400 No, it's burning off bacteria and viruses and cancer cells.

01:05:27.800 It's amazing.

01:05:28.520 It's one of the most amazing things that is in our bodies.

01:05:32.200 Yet we look at it in fear, right?

01:05:34.540 We're afraid.

01:05:35.860 Mike, this freaks people out.

01:05:37.020 My kids have never had a pharmaceutical drug.

01:05:38.940 They've never had a Tylenol in their life.

01:05:40.160 I don't even own a thermometer.

01:05:41.220 I've never taken my kid's temperature.

01:05:42.260 My daughter's 18, my son is 15.

01:05:44.300 People say, you're crazy.

01:05:45.180 I said, no, I just have, I trust that they'll, I trust.

01:05:47.760 What am I going to do?

01:05:49.780 That wisdom in that body is far better than anything I have.

01:05:53.240 The wisdom of that body, that body knows what temperature that needs to be.

01:05:57.220 Far better than I do.

01:05:58.540 Now that's it.

01:05:59.120 But some people can't handle that.

01:06:00.680 But I ask them, why can't they handle it?

01:06:02.200 The other thing has just been put into you.

01:06:05.020 The other thing is just that fear has been created in you.

01:06:08.220 And so for people to not understand that.

01:06:10.860 So when I'm looking at the body, we're saying, hey, how are you, you know, how are you feeding

01:06:14.460 yourself?

01:06:14.820 What does that look like?

01:06:15.460 Are you moving your body?

01:06:16.160 Are you getting good rest?

01:06:17.100 How's your spine aligned?

01:06:18.300 You know, and then of course there's the toxins and there's the molds.

01:06:20.760 We live in Florida.

01:06:21.320 I had to learn all about molds after I moved to Florida from the Midwest.

01:06:24.560 You know, you get the winter kill.

01:06:25.480 You don't have to worry about molds up North for the most part.

01:06:27.320 You do in Florida.

01:06:28.460 Right.

01:06:28.720 And so we talk about lifestyle stuff.

01:06:30.880 We talk about, you know, the mindset, the approach.

01:06:33.180 I think that's one of the greatest things, if I can help people understand, is that they

01:06:36.680 are designed to heal.

01:06:38.240 Most people, as crazy as that sounds, most people don't think like that.

01:06:43.140 They live in fear.

01:06:43.880 Right.

01:06:44.340 What's wrong with me?

01:06:45.940 What's wrong with me?

01:06:47.120 What's wrong with me?

01:06:48.180 What's wrong with me?

01:06:49.480 And they want to look to man to answer that question.

01:06:51.620 And I don't operate like that.

01:06:52.980 I don't believe in giving labels to people.

01:06:54.980 I don't believe in speaking disease over people.

01:06:56.900 I don't believe in, you know, just encouraging that fear in them.

01:07:00.480 I believe in just reminding them that they're fearfully, wonderfully made.

01:07:02.600 And then removing interferences for their life so their body can heal and function the

01:07:05.700 way that God designed it.

01:07:06.720 Now, that sounds simple.

01:07:08.780 I've been doing it 20 years, 21 years, 20,000 patients.

01:07:12.900 I would say that not a day goes by that I don't see what would be considered a miracle.

01:07:19.920 Right.

01:07:20.120 People getting off of drugs, people healing, people.

01:07:23.280 One of my crazy, I've had a lot of crazy stories.

01:07:25.100 One of my craziest stories was a woman who was on thyroid medication.

01:07:28.760 And she told me, she wanted, well, she didn't tell me anything.

01:07:33.180 She just decided to get off of her thyroid medication.

01:07:35.560 She didn't even tell me.

01:07:36.400 Then one day, a few months later, she said, hey, Dr. Ben, I just want to tell you that

01:07:40.200 I got off my thyroid medication.

01:07:41.380 I said, oh, that's awesome.

01:07:42.440 You know, congratulations.

01:07:43.500 Way to go.

01:07:44.140 And she said, well, the doctors can't believe it.

01:07:45.920 I said, well, that doesn't surprise me.

01:07:47.900 You know, they don't really believe that kind of stuff can happen.

01:07:50.780 She goes, no.

01:07:52.060 He was really surprised.

01:07:53.600 I said, well, is there more to story?

01:07:55.020 She said, well, yeah, I don't have a thyroid.

01:07:56.880 They cut it out years ago, 20 years ago.

01:07:59.720 I said, okay, that is interesting.

01:08:02.780 Her thyroid had regrown itself.

01:08:05.080 Wow.

01:08:06.780 So, you know, no, that's an extreme.

01:08:09.600 I mean, that's a wild story.

01:08:10.520 My dad had stage four cancer, was given two weeks to live, picked him up in an airport

01:08:13.460 wearing a diaper.

01:08:15.060 The oncologist, I was on the phone with the oncologist.

01:08:17.280 The oncologist told my dad on the phone with me, your dad has two weeks to live.

01:08:21.620 Go pick out a casket.

01:08:22.940 That was his words.

01:08:24.400 I said to my dad, does that sound satisfactory to you?

01:08:26.880 He said, no.

01:08:27.740 So I took him to a natural cancer clinic in Mesa, Arizona called an oasis of healing.

01:08:31.260 My dad was cancer free in 21 days.

01:08:32.940 Now, people think that's amazing.

01:08:35.580 It doesn't happen every time.

01:08:36.500 I'm not here to sit here and tell everybody that does what my dad did, lives forever.

01:08:39.520 I'm here to tell people there's a whole other world that's available to you.

01:08:43.900 And for a lot of people, it's new.

01:08:45.580 Not new because it's wrong.

01:08:46.480 Not new because it's bad.

01:08:47.220 It's new because you've never experienced it or seen it.

01:08:49.180 Because it's not on TV and you've never gone to the chiropractor or whatever.

01:08:51.760 I don't even care.

01:08:52.700 I love chiropractic.

01:08:53.460 I'm biased.

01:08:54.200 But like, if you told me today, Dr. Ben, you can never get adjusted again, but you can understand

01:08:58.600 God's laws of health and healing and you can know that you're fearfully and wonderfully made.

01:09:01.400 That's what matters.

01:09:02.940 If you, that mindset, that perspective, right?

01:09:05.360 Mind of Christ.

01:09:06.620 Seeing it that way.

01:09:07.940 That's the most part.

01:09:08.620 I love getting adjusted.

01:09:09.480 It's beautiful.

01:09:10.060 I adjust my family, all that stuff.

01:09:11.680 I mean, I love practice.

01:09:12.880 I'll go see a bunch of people today.

01:09:14.060 Like, it's what I do.

01:09:15.360 But my main job is teaching people who made them.

01:09:18.420 I had a, I'll share this one last story.

01:09:19.860 Then we can talk some more if you want.

01:09:21.380 But I was driving home one night and I've never heard the audible voice of God, but I've heard

01:09:26.680 God speak to me.

01:09:27.440 I don't know how you guys roll with it, but, and I was just sitting on, right under the I-4

01:09:33.680 and the Lord said, you know, Ben, it's great what you do.

01:09:40.360 You help a lot of people, you know, feel better, whatever.

01:09:44.460 Um, but they're all going to die.

01:09:49.300 And when they die, the only thing that will matter is if they know me.

01:09:55.060 He said, you talk a lot about healing, but you don't talk a lot about the healer.

01:10:00.880 And that was the day that I decided and committed that I will never talk about healing and not

01:10:05.100 the healer.

01:10:05.840 There is one healer.

01:10:07.360 It is not me.

01:10:09.420 And there is the great physician and that my job is to point to him.

01:10:12.980 Um, and so from that lens and that perspective, that's how I try to approach health and healing

01:10:19.000 in my office.

01:10:20.140 Um, it's not for everybody, right?

01:10:21.740 There's some people that can't wrap their heads around, not because they're dumb or anything

01:10:24.620 that they just, the world has lied to them too much, right?

01:10:26.980 They've been deceived.

01:10:28.660 They're, they've been white, they're whitewashed.

01:10:30.700 They just don't get it.

01:10:31.440 And I, I have, I have compassion for them and I do my best to teach them.

01:10:34.660 And maybe it's me not being able to help them understand, but you know, some people just

01:10:38.100 can't go there.

01:10:38.680 They just do much fear.

01:10:39.480 But, um, I feel like it's my job to do my best to, to at least reveal that to them.

01:10:44.440 That's awesome that you got like, uh, you basically got checked at them because with

01:10:50.000 this show, I mean, this show is kind of retarded, but it's like, we, we often get, uh, DMs

01:10:55.080 from people.

01:10:55.920 I mean, maybe a couple of times a week, I'd say at least for me, David as well, where

01:11:00.820 they're like, Hey, uh, you guys have helped, uh, helped me, uh, get closer to God.

01:11:05.380 And I was like, we didn't do anything like we just, we, we do this thing.

01:11:09.860 Uh, we talk, we try our best to make it as professional as possible as well.

01:11:14.440 I want as many people to watch as possible, but like, I'm not doing anything.

01:11:18.620 What, what's happening here is like, we're giving experiences.

01:11:21.920 We're talking with interesting people that are giving us their experience.

01:11:24.900 And I think that God moves through this show.

01:11:28.680 It's like, I don't have much to do with it.

01:11:30.060 I just kind of like, like you, you, you know, what you can do is you can snap someone's bones

01:11:34.920 in alignment and you're like, well, the rest is God.

01:11:37.860 Yeah.

01:11:38.180 Yeah.

01:11:38.340 You know, that's, I think it's because we, we don't set out to do anything.

01:11:42.320 You know, you ever noticed that about the show?

01:11:43.620 Like we never set out.

01:11:44.560 It's never like, um, I'm going to ask somebody this.

01:11:47.380 I'm going to write like other shows will take and they'll, they'll write down the topics and

01:11:50.760 everything that they, on like half the time we have no idea what we're going to talk

01:11:53.940 about, we just start to, the, the, I think the great consistency with this show is pursuit

01:12:00.660 of the truth.

01:12:01.460 That's it.

01:12:01.980 We're, we're just trying to get, you know, a little bit closer to the truth each time.

01:12:05.960 What do you aim?

01:12:06.680 Like, what is, what is Dr. Ben aimed at?

01:12:08.740 If you're aiming, you're aiming your, your practice towards God and it feels like everything

01:12:13.340 else will just kind of naturally fall into place.

01:12:16.000 And that's, if that's where you're, you're headed, you know?

01:12:18.320 Yeah.

01:12:18.580 And there's definitely right.

01:12:20.340 There's a, there's like a, when I look back on my life, like I didn't always practice that

01:12:23.920 way.

01:12:24.200 Right.

01:12:24.520 Like even I, even though I'd had my own healing that happened and I came out full of ego and

01:12:28.700 I actually failed miserably in practice.

01:12:30.340 My first years, like I was losing everything, going bankrupt.

01:12:32.920 Like I thought this was it.

01:12:34.360 And I had a kind of a breaking point and it sounds a little cliche, but I mean, truly I

01:12:39.800 was like, you know, at the rock bottom and my wife, man, thank God for a good wife.

01:12:44.320 And she just like, babe, like just, and again, this will sound so cliche, but she just said

01:12:48.760 like, honey, like just tell them the truth.

01:12:52.760 Right.

01:12:53.080 Like, you know, you, when you hear that, you always think you are already.

01:12:55.340 Like, it wasn't like I was openly lying, but I was afraid they'd think of me.

01:12:58.120 I was afraid, you know, about this or that.

01:13:00.560 And I was just like, man, well, I have nothing to lose at this point.

01:13:03.640 And, um, we were rock bottom.

01:13:05.280 And I just decided in that day too, that I was just going to treat people like, like the

01:13:09.140 way I would, like they were my sister or my brother, you know what I mean?

01:13:11.580 Like, I'm just going to like make recommendations.

01:13:12.960 Like you're my mom or whatever.

01:13:15.620 And I let the cards fall with a minute.

01:13:17.040 Cause then I could, I could live with myself.

01:13:18.320 And we went from, you know, failing office, losing everything to one of the biggest clinics

01:13:22.200 in America in 18 months.

01:13:24.300 And in a year point, I was not a new marketing plan.

01:13:26.680 It wasn't any, you know, but he saved the day.

01:13:29.120 It was just, you know, I think the Lord needed to, to, to break me, um, break my ego, break

01:13:33.860 my pride.

01:13:34.500 Right.

01:13:34.860 And just realize he's the healer.

01:13:36.100 And like you said, I don't think, see, some people think that sounds like a cop out, right.

01:13:39.680 You know, I say, you know, I move the bone, God does the healing.

01:13:42.060 And it's like, we're trying to shirk responsibility.

01:13:44.260 Like, I'm not trying, like, I don't want to take the response.

01:13:45.960 It's quite the opposite.

01:13:46.900 I think it's actually just being honest, right?

01:13:49.200 Like, like I can't, I can't heal you.

01:13:51.420 I believe that God, I mean, God, God can heal people and he may use somebody to do that,

01:13:55.100 but I don't think I'm the healer.

01:13:56.860 Okay.

01:13:57.200 I think he's the healer.

01:13:58.440 And so trying to keep myself and people all the time, Oh, Dr. Ben, you healed me.

01:14:01.940 I didn't heal you.

01:14:02.620 I stop him every time.

01:14:03.560 I didn't heal you.

01:14:04.620 He healed you.

01:14:05.720 You know, there's a great story in Luke.

01:14:07.480 I think it's Luke.

01:14:08.460 Oh gosh.

01:14:09.120 It's the woman who is bent over.

01:14:11.440 It says she'd been bent over for 18 years.

01:14:13.380 She's sitting in the back of the synagogue.

01:14:15.060 And I love the story because there's a lot of reasons.

01:14:17.540 One of them, it's Jesus himself and he's teaching.

01:14:20.300 And it says that he sees the woman sitting in the back.

01:14:22.860 So I think, you know, there's these amazing stories of healing in the Bible.

01:14:25.480 We're like, you know, the guy calls out from the side or the woman presses through and

01:14:28.760 touches the robe and things like that.

01:14:30.000 Like, those are amazing.

01:14:31.160 But this one is like, it's different.

01:14:34.840 Like she's sitting in the back, right?

01:14:37.320 Like you have to imagine, it says she'd been bent over for 18 years.

01:14:41.380 Like you have to imagine she maybe had given up, that maybe it wasn't going to happen for

01:14:45.720 her, that maybe it was too late.

01:14:47.140 And it says that he sees her.

01:14:50.360 And I just, you know, sometimes it's just showing up in that sense.

01:14:53.620 You know, she shows up, she puts herself in that position.

01:14:55.800 He calls her out.

01:14:56.560 He brings her up and says, the first thing he does is he casts out a spirit of infirmity.

01:15:00.980 And I think that's an important thing for people to remember, because even in healthcare,

01:15:05.600 you know, when's the last time that somebody went to the hospital and they got a spirit

01:15:08.540 of infirmity cast out of them, right?

01:15:11.200 Probably not very often.

01:15:12.360 Yet we do that often in my office, all right?

01:15:14.600 I mean, I pray for all of my patients.

01:15:16.420 I lay hands on them and I pray for them.

01:15:18.860 And I don't do that for show.

01:15:20.680 I do that because I don't want to do it without it.

01:15:24.200 Like, why would I try to do it without it?

01:15:27.380 And for those people that that's really the cause of their problem, then that's going to be

01:15:30.440 the only way solution.

01:15:31.480 You're not going to be able to eat yourself out of that one.

01:15:33.200 You can't do enough jumping jacks to get rid of the spirit of infirmity.

01:15:35.820 So it says that he cast out the spirit of infirmity first.

01:15:38.460 So dealt with the supernatural, dealt with the spiritual.

01:15:40.220 Then he laid hands on her.

01:15:41.460 And it says that she stood upright and she immediately began to praise God.

01:15:45.340 And that to me is healthcare, right?

01:15:47.080 You deal with, you give God the glory, right?

01:15:50.500 And so, and when through this process of people, and listen, like you said, or we've said today,

01:15:54.640 like we're all going to die.

01:15:55.460 This isn't about living forever in the physical side, right?

01:15:57.840 Like, I don't know.

01:15:58.340 And people die from other things other than just heart disease and cancer and side effects

01:16:01.720 of drugs, right?

01:16:02.240 People get hit by cars and fall off of, you know, roofs and drown.

01:16:06.540 Like, this isn't about, I don't, I don't, I also don't believe in making health an idol.

01:16:11.100 You know what I mean?

01:16:11.640 Like, I don't believe, like I see some of the health world, health influencer stuff,

01:16:15.560 and it's all about vanity and, you know, biohacking and anti-aging.

01:16:19.820 I'm like, no, this isn't, I'm not trying to hack God.

01:16:22.440 I'm not opposed to those things.

01:16:24.020 I'm opposed to those things as idols.

01:16:25.360 I'm opposed, if a person thinks I can't be healthy unless I do 86 cold plunges, 900 therapies,

01:16:30.840 8 million vitamins.

01:16:31.660 Like, again, I do those things.

01:16:33.540 But it's not, it's not my idol.

01:16:35.780 It's a form of worship to my father.

01:16:37.840 And simply saying, when I'm, if I'm exercising, I'm not doing it for a six pack.

01:16:41.520 I'm doing it as a form of worship to the God that made me.

01:16:44.740 Now, I know for some people that's a little bit like, a little bit too much.

01:16:48.120 But I think it's honestly a better perspective.

01:16:52.340 I think it keeps our heart right and keeps us in check.

01:16:55.600 And I think if people could understand how wonderfully God made their body, that a lot

01:17:00.900 of the fear that they have around health would go away.

01:17:03.500 I think that's why, you know, to your question about just like what goes on in my office,

01:17:08.060 you know, or how do I take care of people?

01:17:09.760 And it's why we have the podcast designed to heal because some of these conversations

01:17:12.660 take a while, right?

01:17:13.520 Like you got to, you know, if you're going to talk about heart disease or diabetes or

01:17:16.680 cancer or autoimmune diseases, you know, I want to my, I have a doctor that's coming

01:17:20.620 to work for me and, you know, he, uh, he had MS, he got diagnosed.

01:17:25.940 He was a D1 athlete, um, playing for Navy, got a bunch of jabs, you know, the military loved

01:17:30.940 the jabs.

01:17:31.520 And so he got a bunch of jabs his first week, uh, shortly thereafter, half his body gets

01:17:35.600 paralyzed.

01:17:36.340 He, they told him they diagnosed with MS lesions on his brain and spinal cord.

01:17:39.660 They told him, um, um, he'd be in a wheelchair in three years, dead in five.

01:17:44.300 He had a very aggressive form and, uh, he came back.

01:17:47.480 They medically discharged him from the Navy.

01:17:49.200 He came back to Florida.

01:17:50.120 I knew his dad.

01:17:50.880 He came to my office.

01:17:51.600 I started taking care of him.

01:17:52.540 He changed his lifestyle.

01:17:53.500 The Lord healed him.

01:17:54.640 He's completely healed.

01:17:55.600 Married two kids, just finished chiropractic school.

01:17:57.520 Going to come back to my office.

01:17:58.560 I mean, his brain scan, his lesions are gone and cleared.

01:18:01.660 And again, people find that's, that's amazing.

01:18:04.080 And it is, but it's, it's just, that stuff's not that weird to me, right?

01:18:07.940 Like it sounds weird to other people.

01:18:09.220 They tell you, oh, it's MS, it's chronic.

01:18:11.220 You never get rid of like, like, you know, or Lyme disease for your wife.

01:18:13.780 Right?

01:18:14.540 Like, like, well, don't, you know, don't tell them she's well, you know, I remember one day

01:18:18.460 this lady, I was doing a seminar and this lady came up to me afterwards and she's like,

01:18:20.940 I've worked in the hospital for 30 years and I've never seen anything like that.

01:18:24.860 And I was like, do you realize how stupid you sound?

01:18:26.980 Like, exactly.

01:18:27.580 You've worked in the hospital for 30 years.

01:18:28.840 I know you haven't seen it because you don't do any of this stuff.

01:18:31.060 Like, what do you expect you're going to see?

01:18:32.460 You mean everybody that comes in, you get pill potions and lotions and then send them out.

01:18:35.520 You don't see people heal and get miracles.

01:18:37.320 Well, yeah.

01:18:38.460 Like, you answered your own question, man.

01:18:40.080 Like, I live in a different place here, right?

01:18:41.720 Some people will say, oh, you know, I don't see those miracles.

01:18:43.940 I said, do you pray for them?

01:18:44.780 Do you lay hands on them?

01:18:46.280 I've never seen that happen.

01:18:47.220 Really?

01:18:47.500 Have you tried?

01:18:49.060 Like, that's why.

01:18:50.000 It's happened to me.

01:18:50.720 It's, uh, as a, as a baby, I was, uh, my mom, when my mom was giving birth to me, I had

01:18:55.940 the umbilical cord wrapped around my neck twice and, uh, they were telling her to push.

01:18:59.920 It caused like severe damage to my spine and my neck.

01:19:03.500 Wow.

01:19:04.260 And, uh, all the way up until I was, I don't even know, maybe like five, six, something

01:19:08.780 like that.

01:19:09.340 I would get chronic earaches and, uh, like ear infections.

01:19:13.600 So they'd be putting drops and I'd be taking, you know, the pink medicine and all that stuff.

01:19:18.120 I mean, when I say excruciating, it was excruciating and they brought me to the doctor and all

01:19:22.920 he could suggest is, you know, here's more antibiotics.

01:19:25.660 They put the earmuffs on and all this kind of regular stuff.

01:19:29.360 And my parents were like, we're going to try the chiropractor.

01:19:32.380 And then the doctor flipped out on them.

01:19:34.800 This dude, he was, he was, uh, at the time I thought it was a good doctor.

01:19:38.580 Um, yeah, they brought me anyway.

01:19:40.240 The guy did adjustments and I, they, they were saying like, if I continued on this path,

01:19:45.440 I would be deaf in, I think my right ear.

01:19:48.060 It's always such a damning, like what's coming is you'll be dead.

01:19:53.400 And honestly, I think that they were right because you can't have that kind of severe

01:19:57.040 pain in your ear without something collapsing or who knows it was, it was crazy.

01:20:01.820 Uh, the guy adjusted me for like six months or something.

01:20:04.540 I was fine.

01:20:05.380 And the, the doctor, the allopathic doctor, uh, was furious with my parents and had nothing

01:20:11.960 to say when I was fine though.

01:20:13.380 But still mad?

01:20:14.380 He was furious.

01:20:15.020 He called my mom stupid.

01:20:16.520 Yeah.

01:20:16.860 That's fascinating.

01:20:17.900 And I'm now, I'm a musician now.

01:20:19.320 So like, not only do I hear, but I hear really well.

01:20:22.400 Like, I thank God.

01:20:23.160 Like, wow.

01:20:23.740 Thank God.

01:20:24.080 My, my wife, um, she, like I said, she's a, uh, a licensed, uh, massage therapist.

01:20:30.780 She was working at her last job before she didn't have to work anymore was a chiropractor's

01:20:35.140 office.

01:20:35.760 And that whole like approach seems so much better.

01:20:39.560 Like I, I had, um, I was diagnosed with cancer and it was like the fastest process I had ever

01:20:46.380 been through.

01:20:46.720 They were like, yeah, seems like it's cancer.

01:20:48.680 Don't want to do a biopsy because we don't want to risk it spreading.

01:20:51.340 Let's just cut it off.

01:20:52.080 It was testicular cancer.

01:20:53.140 So I lost a testicle, just cut it off.

01:20:55.500 Like next thing I know, the surgery was scheduled.

01:20:57.380 I went in there.

01:20:57.920 I had it done.

01:20:58.440 I never saw the doctor again.

01:20:59.360 If you were wondering why you sound so weird.

01:21:00.820 It's after that, my voice changed.

01:21:02.300 Well, it's all making sense.

01:21:03.680 You don't have a testicle and, and top was strangled twice.

01:21:07.580 Like it's all making, it's all making sense.

01:21:09.900 Yes.

01:21:10.300 Yes.

01:21:10.980 But like, I went through that route.

01:21:15.380 Right.

01:21:15.560 And I had never really been to the doctor before that.

01:21:17.540 Um, I went years and years, like comically.

01:21:19.800 So we're like, people would ask me when the last time I went to the doctor and I'd be

01:21:22.440 like, I don't know when I was a child, you know?

01:21:24.060 So like 15, 16 years, hadn't gone to the doctor, found this mass, went, went through the whole

01:21:29.320 process.

01:21:29.800 Within a couple of months, it was just done.

01:21:31.260 I just was down a testicle, no longer had cancer, I guess.

01:21:34.300 And just, you know, moved on with my life.

01:21:35.920 But the experience that my wife went through as a practitioner at a chiropractor's office

01:21:40.960 is like, she would tell me all the time, people, not only would they love her, like

01:21:45.580 she had like these old patients, cause we're in Florida.

01:21:47.780 So, you know, it's a lot of, it's kind of the old, old person central of the world.

01:21:51.620 And, um, and they became so emotionally attached to her.

01:21:55.240 She would have people weep.

01:21:57.240 Oh, like, and I, and I actually didn't like that aspect because I noticed that it was taking

01:22:02.020 a toll on her, like she was taking on the baggage of these individuals, but like, I

01:22:06.120 just couldn't, I couldn't imagine that because anytime I had been to the doctor, it was so

01:22:09.800 sterilized and it was such a, um, a stringent process in and out.

01:22:14.080 It wasn't like, like, like somebody said, I think it was Jen.

01:22:16.920 She was like, wait until they're doing this with AI instead of human beings.

01:22:20.480 If they could do that now, they would, because the people that you deal with at a doctor's

01:22:24.920 office are like automatons and they want them.

01:22:27.780 You know, I saw Hicktown Honey, uh, in the chat too, who is also, she's, she's my doctor.

01:22:31.540 Uh, when I was going through something recently, she's, I reached out to her.

01:22:35.020 She prescribed, uh, take this much vitamin C, take this much and do this for a bit because

01:22:39.920 I didn't want to go to the doctors and get put on like, uh, antibiotics and shit like

01:22:43.640 that.

01:22:43.780 And it ended up working out.

01:22:45.080 Um, but she was saying that the office that she practices at, she has to be careful what

01:22:50.540 she says.

01:22:51.000 She has to be careful what she recommends.

01:22:52.500 So if they could remove the human element from this process, they would, but then you look

01:22:57.340 at the chiropractor's office and there's literally like human connection galore.

01:23:00.900 Uh, happening every single day.

01:23:03.460 These people are, are, are sobbing.

01:23:05.160 It tells you that there's something else beneath it.

01:23:07.180 These people were in there because they had been in accidents and things like that, but

01:23:11.040 there was a spiritual, emotional component.

01:23:13.480 When I was going again, my, like my second stint at the chiropractor more recently, everybody

01:23:18.600 there was like, I'm, I'm from New York, so I'm very suspicious of people that smile.

01:23:22.620 They were like, like overly happy, like the workers.

01:23:26.260 And I was just like, are they, are they hurting you here?

01:23:29.060 Are they forcing you?

01:23:30.080 And I was like, they're like, no, I'm just happy to be here.

01:23:31.600 I'm like, uh, look at this.

01:23:33.580 I don't believe you.

01:23:35.180 Hicktown said it's her own business and she can't because of federal agencies.

01:23:39.660 So, well, thank you.

01:23:40.840 Hicktown is, is, is my doctor though.

01:23:42.460 Thank you for, it's good to see you doc.

01:23:43.700 Um, yeah, I mean, oh, it's not Hicktown, honey, that made the recommendations.

01:23:48.420 I always mistribute that.

01:23:49.480 That was hipster tactical.

01:23:50.360 My bad.

01:23:50.900 That's right.

01:23:51.180 You're my doctor too, Hicktown.

01:23:52.660 One of the things I, I try to remind people too, just to kind of put a little bit of the

01:23:56.820 bow on this, because I think sometimes at least in America, I would, and there's, you

01:24:00.660 guys probably know a lot about this, but for people that are kind of learning a little

01:24:04.120 bit today, the, the, the part that would answer a lot of the modern medicine.

01:24:08.860 I mean, you guys talked about some of the old stuff, spiritual stuff, which I think is

01:24:11.860 super real, but the modern medical, there really is what we call Rockefeller medicine,

01:24:15.900 right?

01:24:16.220 And we won't go into all those, you know, your Flexner reports, but that's really when

01:24:19.300 it all changed significantly.

01:24:21.180 So much of what we're operating in today is rooted in, in, at least in the modern, you

01:24:26.300 know, 1910 on kind of thing is what was called Rockefeller medicine.

01:24:29.600 That's when you just saw petroleum-based chemicals and pharmaceuticals, as we know it really get,

01:24:34.020 get used and distributed.

01:24:35.080 And then all, of course, like you said, one of you said earlier, all the money involved in

01:24:38.100 that.

01:24:38.280 And so there is a, there is a bit of a, of a, that's, that's really what's destroyed

01:24:44.440 a lot of, of what I think could be an amazing, you know, profession, i.e. healthcare, right?

01:24:50.200 I think there's, you know, important opportunity there, but so people are like, is this really

01:24:54.380 it?

01:24:54.580 I mean, Rockefeller medicine, just doing a curse in the Flexner report, looking at what

01:24:58.800 happened there will help explain to you a lot of how we ended up, at least in the modern

01:25:02.180 era of healthcare.

01:25:03.020 I just want to mention that for your listener.

01:25:04.300 Yeah, it's, I mean, just, just going back to what I was talking about before this, you

01:25:10.820 know, if it is a modern Rockefeller era of medicine, it is void of, you know, if the Bible

01:25:17.620 says, you know, lay hands, and you can, you can heal.

01:25:21.560 We're, we're trying to do it as impersonal as possible.

01:25:25.520 We don't want to touch you.

01:25:27.700 We don't want to have empathy.

01:25:28.640 We want to just put you through the grinder, the machine, you know what I mean?

01:25:31.880 We want to try to have as least amount of physical contact.

01:25:36.020 We don't even want to hear, you know, that's the other thing too, is like when I went through

01:25:38.660 that process and, and, you know, it's like, oh, it turns out I have cancer.

01:25:42.180 No mention, not a single utterance of my, you know, health and nutrition, my habits, the

01:25:49.980 things that I'm subjected to on a regular basis.

01:25:52.300 Like no mention of that whatsoever.

01:25:54.700 It was just, yeah, this thing is here.

01:25:56.520 It's like, God forbid, you should go, okay, it seems that you have some form of cancer.

01:26:02.400 We should explore what you're eating, what you're exposed to on a daily basis.

01:26:06.620 Any of these things, you know, for fear of it happening again, because just cutting it

01:26:11.180 out of you doesn't mean that you won't be subjected to the same elements that caused it

01:26:14.380 in the first place.

01:26:15.360 None of that at all.

01:26:17.400 And so it's, it is, it's the, it's the worst version that you could possibly have.

01:26:23.660 And I think with AI, I mean, I, I have deep concerns over it as I'm sure you guys do, but

01:26:28.780 from a healthcare perspective, I think it really is the beginning of, of the end.

01:26:33.680 And because, you know, like how do you sue AI, right?

01:26:35.880 Like, I think you're right.

01:26:36.780 If they could flip that switch tomorrow and just say, well, you know, the, the algorithm

01:26:40.880 told us to do it.

01:26:42.020 Right.

01:26:42.380 And there's no person behind that.

01:26:44.180 And I think that from the litigation standpoint, I mean, yeah, I think, I think you will see

01:26:47.940 very, very quickly as soon as, I mean, there's already some things that are happening, but

01:26:51.600 that's going to be, it'll just be a, an algorithm of most medical care based on your biometrics

01:26:56.100 that they're capturing through your watch or your ring or your phone or however people,

01:27:00.660 however it goes down.

01:27:01.320 That's why I don't wear any of that stuff.

01:27:02.480 I don't wear any biometric screening.

01:27:03.880 I don't, I don't, I don't have any of that stuff mostly because I don't know where it

01:27:07.080 goes.

01:27:07.660 Right.

01:27:08.040 Right.

01:27:08.260 And I don't want that in somebody else's hands.

01:27:10.820 And like you always joking, you said, you don't go to the doctor.

01:27:12.700 I haven't been to the doctor in 25 years.

01:27:14.080 And I'm a doctor, right?

01:27:15.400 Like I don't, they don't have anything I'm interested in.

01:27:18.000 Um, that's, you know, I'm actually frustrated right now because my son is home.

01:27:22.980 Uh, he's a little under the weather.

01:27:24.360 He's, he's actually not been sick for a few years now that we moved to Florida.

01:27:28.940 Um, but he's a little under the weather.

01:27:30.240 He's been home for two days and I've just been letting him go through it.

01:27:33.460 You know, he was running like a little bit of a fever.

01:27:35.340 We didn't do anything about it because it wasn't that serious.

01:27:37.380 And I do think like, obviously the body's turning the temperature up for a reason.

01:27:40.760 And if you interrupt that process, you're just going to prolong it.

01:27:44.560 You're going to elongate the entire process because it has to go through it, it seems.

01:27:48.340 And, uh, and now we're getting messages from the school where it's like, you know, please

01:27:51.100 bring them back.

01:27:51.580 And I know that obviously they're going to allow them back, but they want a doctor's

01:27:54.080 note.

01:27:54.220 And I'm like, why do I even need to go to the doctor?

01:27:56.640 He's just got a fever.

01:27:57.860 He's 10 years old.

01:27:58.920 He, he ran himself crazy at church.

01:28:01.160 They had, uh, um, like a, a swimming, not a swimming day, but like a, they had inflatable

01:28:05.960 water rides that they brought to the church.

01:28:08.280 He went crazy and, you know, I guess overexerted himself, got a little under the weather.

01:28:13.220 And so he's been down and out for the, for the weekend, but in order to, to get him back

01:28:17.160 to school with no problems, I got to bring him to, to the doctor.

01:28:20.500 Uh, and, and it's just like, for what?

01:28:22.180 It's a kid with a fever.

01:28:23.220 Get the blessing from the high priest that says you're well.

01:28:26.160 I'm like, it's so annoying.

01:28:27.980 I always laugh.

01:28:29.060 You know, what's funny about that?

01:28:30.160 Two things too.

01:28:30.800 One would be, you're exactly right.

01:28:31.840 Just give you the data on the, on the fever.

01:28:33.820 So there's studies that show when you artificially reduce a fever, like with, you know, an antipyretic

01:28:38.360 or Tylenol or something, it does exactly what you said.

01:28:41.060 It actually makes it, it drives it in deeper, right?

01:28:43.500 Cause it's not getting exposed and it actually increases hospitalizations and increases things

01:28:47.740 like pneumonia.

01:28:48.300 Cause it's not able to, you know, run its courses as fast.

01:28:51.760 And of course it doesn't happen every time, but that's what the study showed.

01:28:54.100 But then also I always laugh.

01:28:56.220 I know a lot of people that, you know, like daycare and stuff like that.

01:28:58.500 And they'll say, if the kid has a fever, they'll, it's so funny to me.

01:29:02.320 They'll say, then you have to give them like the Tylenol.

01:29:05.720 And if they lower their fever, then they, then they can come to class.

01:29:09.060 And I think, are you guys idiots?

01:29:11.260 Like, that's like, so do you think by lowering the fever, you've like, like their sickness

01:29:16.660 is gone?

01:29:17.280 Like, are you, are you, are you in la la land?

01:29:19.460 Right.

01:29:19.700 Like, like, like let them, like you're, you're doing what you got to do.

01:29:21.840 Like you said, let the kid lay home and rest, do what the body's telling it to do,

01:29:24.260 which is lay on the couch and veg out and snuggle mom.

01:29:26.600 What do you mean, Ben?

01:29:27.480 We've, we've printed trillions of dollars.

01:29:29.360 Clearly our economy is much better.

01:29:31.000 Like, yeah, exactly.

01:29:32.500 What are you retarded?

01:29:33.380 You know how great it is?

01:29:34.300 I mean, he's sick.

01:29:35.320 I told you I'm not a real doctor.

01:29:37.740 That's right.

01:29:38.680 He's, he's been sick.

01:29:39.500 And that just means he's been quiet for two days.

01:29:41.440 So honestly, it's been, it's been awesome having him home.

01:29:44.020 He's just relaxing.

01:29:45.480 You know, he slept a lot, but it's like, what am I supposed to do?

01:29:47.660 Give him water, make sure he's hydrated.

01:29:49.280 If he, if I can get him to eat something, then, you know, he'll eat.

01:29:52.360 If he's not hungry and he's tired, all right, go, go back to sleep.

01:29:54.940 You know, whatever your body's calling you to do, if it's calling you to fall asleep

01:29:58.580 over and over again, like, yeah, probably rest for as long as you possibly can.

01:30:02.340 And we'll see where you're at.

01:30:03.420 But now I have to, yeah, like you said, go to the high priest.

01:30:05.520 I have to get it in writing.

01:30:06.840 You know, I have to prove to the system that my kid wasn't, was sick.

01:30:10.040 Uh, God forbid I even wanted to take just some time off, you know, break them out of

01:30:14.380 the, the, the, you know, uh, yeah, I guess next time don't tell them they're sick.

01:30:18.840 I guess just tell them whatever I didn't, we've always homeschooled.

01:30:22.220 So I don't even know some of those, that world, but yeah, no, uh, it's called an unexcused

01:30:26.860 absence.

01:30:26.980 I can't relate.

01:30:27.920 I can't relate to that either.

01:30:29.020 Well, here, let me, let me tell you what happens.

01:30:30.400 Too many unexcused absences in, in a quarter, uh, will lead to somebody knocking on your door

01:30:35.960 called a truancy officer.

01:30:37.280 And they're going to go, Hey, you haven't been taking your child to, uh, to Rothschild reeducation

01:30:43.760 camp.

01:30:44.280 Yeah.

01:30:44.600 Uh, and public indoctrination center.

01:30:46.780 Yes, it's public indoctrination system.

01:30:49.140 Um, and that's not allowed.

01:30:50.860 Uh, and so you're going to get a fine or worse, we're going to put you in jail because.

01:30:57.420 You didn't follow the rules.

01:30:58.720 You didn't follow the rules.

01:31:00.200 So yeah, it's, it's, it's a lot of fun.

01:31:02.400 Truancy is, uh, is, is an interesting concept.

01:31:05.200 I love that where it's like, Hey, you didn't come to this thing that you pay tax dollars

01:31:08.420 to fund.

01:31:09.520 Uh, and, and therefore you're, you're, you're in trouble.

01:31:12.160 Look, um, doc, I want to respect your time.

01:31:14.260 We're coming up on the hour and a half mark.

01:31:15.500 And I know you have to lay hands on people today.

01:31:17.660 Um, so, uh, before we go, actually, you know what?

01:31:20.820 We didn't ask last time, uh, to Wesley.

01:31:22.600 I would like to ask, uh, uh, Dr.

01:31:24.480 Rall, Dr.

01:31:25.340 Rall, are you having fun?

01:31:27.620 Hmm.

01:31:27.880 Um, yeah, I, um, I, I, I've can't, you know, I've been doing this 21 years and I, you know,

01:31:35.680 matter of fact, it was a few weeks ago, a month ago, we went on a cruise, my wife and

01:31:40.620 I Alaskan cruise and it was beautiful and it was wonderful and all those things.

01:31:43.980 But like, I do best when I am doing what I feel like I'm called to do.

01:31:49.440 And that's probably the, the, the, the, the best time I had was during COVID.

01:31:54.700 Um, even though it was insane and the world was crazy, but it was like, it was like, I

01:32:00.220 was so alive.

01:32:01.320 Cause every day I had people that would call my office, tell me I was killing people.

01:32:04.600 People would walk into my office, open up my door and scream at me.

01:32:08.180 Um, like I was like, but I'm like, I'm a, I don't know if you don't like the Enneagrams,

01:32:12.320 like that different personality thing.

01:32:13.820 Right.

01:32:14.000 So I'm an eight.

01:32:14.840 That's a challenger.

01:32:15.460 Like I grew up boxing.

01:32:16.340 Like I'm built for this.

01:32:17.220 Like I, I'm a, I'm a warrior.

01:32:18.820 I fight for people.

01:32:20.040 And so like, I love this.

01:32:21.500 Right.

01:32:21.660 So like every day people are coming in to get lied to.

01:32:23.860 I get to combat those lies, pray for them, love on them, encourage them.

01:32:26.880 Right.

01:32:27.100 And watch them heal and have victory.

01:32:28.440 So like, I, I tell people this, I'm not good at much, like, but, but I'm built for

01:32:32.900 that.

01:32:33.460 And so that's where I'm at my best.

01:32:36.280 I, I, I can't imagine.

01:32:38.280 I was out of practice shortly.

01:32:40.040 I'd sold my office in South Dakota at one point.

01:32:42.120 And I, I moved to Florida.

01:32:44.480 I was helping, I was consulting doc, like with doctors, right.

01:32:46.860 Like helping them run their offices.

01:32:49.460 And I just, I couldn't, I was like dying inside.

01:32:53.680 Right.

01:32:54.120 Cause I was just like, my job wasn't to help doctors make more money.

01:32:57.300 And my job was to help, you know, sick people get well.

01:32:59.920 And so I got, you know, back into practice and, and, um, you know, that was another, that

01:33:04.860 was almost 10 years ago now again.

01:33:05.980 So I get, you know, it's just, you know, even though I have a lot of these other doctor

01:33:09.520 friends and like, oh, you know, you should like, you know, just get your office to run

01:33:12.780 itself.

01:33:13.200 And then you hire doctors.

01:33:14.300 I'm like, I'm not good at much.

01:33:16.380 Like, I'm like, I'm like, why, why would I stop?

01:33:19.180 Like, this is what I'm called to do now.

01:33:21.080 I know that's different for everybody, but just to answer your question, like.

01:33:23.820 Like, I'm pretty much just chomping at the bit most of my, you know, what's really funny.

01:33:29.820 I love the pathway from like, like laying hands to like laying hands.

01:33:34.100 Like that's, that's, that's an interesting, you're like, I know I'm supposed to do something

01:33:38.320 with these.

01:33:39.000 I bet he's like, every so often someone comes in his office, like, I wish he would.

01:33:42.620 I wish he would.

01:33:45.920 Well, listen, uh, Dr. Rawls, this is an awesome conversation, man.

01:33:50.380 I really appreciate your time too, man.

01:33:51.840 It's not a single, I don't think maybe not one person so far.

01:33:54.980 We always ask, are you having fun?

01:33:56.660 And we always get yes.

01:33:58.240 And we always get a different, like a slightly different answer.

01:34:00.740 It's become my favorite question to ask people because, uh, I think there's like these, you

01:34:06.300 know, information driven responses are one thing, but like, we're asking almost like a

01:34:10.880 question of the spirit.

01:34:12.220 You know what I mean?

01:34:13.080 And we're also asking people who are on their, they're on their path.

01:34:17.340 Like, yeah, yes, Dr. Ben is on his path.

01:34:19.720 He's in the right spot.

01:34:20.680 Like you've been put in the spot and this is where you thrive.

01:34:24.280 Like when COVID happened, it was like sink or swim for most people.

01:34:27.540 A lot of people sunk, but a lot of people swim.

01:34:30.240 There's really nobody in the middle.

01:34:31.580 Everyone's like, you know, it's, it's up or down and you found your path, man.

01:34:35.820 It's, I think we just happened to continue to talk to people like that.

01:34:39.160 And it's encouraging.

01:34:40.060 Yeah.

01:34:40.280 I think we're only going to find if these losers in the chat figure out their way.

01:34:45.320 I know.

01:34:45.840 Yeah.

01:34:46.100 Yeah.

01:34:46.280 Well, I mean, you know, I think everybody will, but, um, one more time before we get

01:34:49.840 out of here, uh, Dr.

01:34:51.000 Rawl, where can everybody find your work?

01:34:52.540 Where can they find your podcast?

01:34:53.840 Where can they find your practice?

01:34:55.820 Yeah.

01:34:56.160 So the podcast is probably just the best for listeners.

01:34:58.600 So that's just designed to heal.

01:35:00.460 That's that.

01:35:01.100 I think we're on Instagram designed to heal podcast.

01:35:02.760 And then my website, drbenrawl.com.

01:35:05.100 That's where my books are.

01:35:06.100 And there's just a little bit of information on there.

01:35:07.740 Um, and then our clinic happens to be in Orlando, Florida.

01:35:11.580 So those people that are in that area that are looking for, for help, um, that's, that's

01:35:16.720 that.

01:35:16.980 And then the books can be bought, you know, pretty much on Amazon and all those things.

01:35:20.520 But yeah, I mean, I, I've always, one of my principles in my office is that I believe

01:35:24.680 to your point, I believe that everybody, you know, has a divine purpose and we'll treat

01:35:29.540 them as such.

01:35:30.180 And so whoever's listening to this or you guys, I mean, just, I got introduced to you

01:35:34.880 through, you know, one of our mutual friends and I was watching, I was like, man, these

01:35:38.060 are guys, I was a number one, they're fearless.

01:35:40.040 They ask great, they ask great questions and, you know, we just need more of that more people

01:35:46.660 that are, are doing what you guys are doing.

01:35:48.740 So I was honored to be on here.

01:35:50.420 I hope that it's helpful for your listeners.

01:35:52.380 I had fun.

01:35:53.840 So hopefully everybody else does as well, but thank you guys and just bless your work and

01:35:58.560 what you're doing, your families, your kiddos.

01:36:01.080 And yeah, hopefully we stay in touch.

01:36:03.240 Thank you, Dr.

01:36:04.100 Yeah, we're going to, well, I'll let Matt know you said what's up, unless you don't

01:36:07.920 want me to, so.

01:36:08.880 I understand.

01:36:09.600 Yeah.

01:36:09.940 I'm sorry, I can't hear you.

01:36:11.140 I think you're muted.

01:36:12.160 I don't know if you're muted.

01:36:13.700 Oh no, what happened?

01:36:14.960 Oh, that's strange.

01:36:16.200 Yeah.

01:36:16.360 How about now?

01:36:16.760 Can you hear me now?

01:36:19.040 No.

01:36:19.480 Nope.

01:36:20.100 All right.

01:36:20.440 Well, let's, let's bring you, we're going to wrap it up anyway.

01:36:23.320 Thank you, Dr.

01:36:24.380 Ben.

01:36:25.280 Guys, until a couple of minutes, don't forget to obey.

01:36:28.180 Submit and comply.

01:36:30.060 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:36:36.300 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:36:40.140 You can persuade us that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.

01:36:45.480 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what it is.

01:36:53.840 And they have.

01:36:58.180 To see you next time well.

01:37:00.360 Thank you, Dr.

Nephilim Death Squad - September 08, 2025

210： Designed to Heal： Faith, Physiology & Freedom w⧸ Dr. Ben Rall

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