Nephilim Death Squad - 218： Garden of the Gods： Giants, DUMBs & Hidden Sarcophagi w⧸ BlaqLabs Rob

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00:04:35.920 Introducing today's guest.

00:04:37.060 We are joined once again by Black Labs, Rob.

00:04:41.240 Rob, thank you for joining us.

00:04:42.420 Let the people know.

00:04:43.120 It's been four minutes, Rob.

00:04:44.420 Four minutes that we kept you there.

00:04:46.060 We did.

00:04:46.600 It was a long time.

00:04:47.260 A long intro and a long...

00:04:49.600 Did you enjoy it?

00:04:50.580 Did you enjoy the news network?

00:04:51.760 Yeah, what did you think about that?

00:04:52.500 Yeah, that's pretty cool.

00:04:53.340 I like that little flair there.

00:04:54.840 That was good.

00:04:56.300 It's like, I don't know what that was.

00:04:57.680 It's like, I don't know what the hell that schizophrenic fever dream was.

00:05:01.200 Rob, before we get into the conversation, let's talk about where can people find you?

00:05:06.540 Where can you?

00:05:07.020 Because you, you, you, you, you, did you get kicked off of Twitter or was that a voluntary

00:05:10.560 decision?

00:05:11.640 No, no.

00:05:11.880 That was a voluntary decision because I found myself on Twitter way too damn much.

00:05:17.660 It is my crack.

00:05:19.660 It is my quick tonight.

00:05:21.180 That's why this is green, like a big green weenie.

00:05:24.080 Like the green dildos I used to make.

00:05:26.160 Oh God, did I say that?

00:05:27.260 I shouldn't let anybody know about that.

00:05:28.880 That's not...

00:05:29.700 That's in the past though.

00:05:31.240 And, you know, God forgives all things.

00:05:33.420 So where, so where can we, where can we find you now?

00:05:36.360 Um, I'll be back on, I'll be back on Black Labs on Twitter, uh, probably in the next two

00:05:41.960 weeks.

00:05:42.320 Uh, as soon as I get this, uh, drift car done and this drag car done and this other engine

00:05:48.480 that I'm doing development for done.

00:05:50.540 Uh, so you all just have to wait with bated breath and, uh, be ready to squeal like girls

00:05:57.000 when I come back on there.

00:05:58.100 Well, very exciting.

00:05:59.140 I guess we should give them something then to, uh, to pique their interest.

00:06:02.300 I know there was a couple of things that we talked about before the show started.

00:06:05.800 Um, but if you don't mind, I I'd like to, if you could tell us about what happened, you

00:06:10.060 and I got into a conversation on X and it was, um, about, you know, these potential deep underground

00:06:17.160 military bases with these cryptids in it.

00:06:19.300 That's how it started.

00:06:20.420 That's how I started tweeting about it.

00:06:21.880 Um, and you said that you were in a place called the garden of the gods and that, uh, you and

00:06:29.300 your wife were beset upon by his wife, his wife were beset upon by, by, you know, military

00:06:38.280 personnel.

00:06:38.680 And I said, no way is he talking about the same garden of gods because, um, there are

00:06:45.040 two and one of them is infinitely more popular and that's the one in Colorado.

00:06:48.360 So I assumed, I said, I'm not going to jump any conclusions here.

00:06:51.900 He's probably just talking about the one in Colorado, not the one that for the audience

00:06:56.320 listening, those of you who may remember, I started to schizo speculate as to what goes

00:07:01.720 on there because it's close to Indiana and there's a strange happening in Indiana, Southern

00:07:06.800 Indiana in particular, it is close to the Appalachian mountain, uh, cave system that

00:07:13.340 stretches from the Appalachians, uh, westward towards, uh, Indiana and Illinois.

00:07:18.040 And, uh, and I said, certainly couldn't be that same garden of the gods that sits above

00:07:23.980 that cave system.

00:07:25.100 And lo and behold, it was so, so tell us a little bit about what the heck happened to you

00:07:29.720 guys out there.

00:07:31.720 Okay.

00:07:32.060 So, uh, I had a professor and, uh, him and I were talking about the stuff that goes on

00:07:37.740 in the X-Files because it was popular in 97 because that's when this all went down.

00:07:43.340 And, uh, I was talking to him about the fact that there's so many Egyptian references to

00:07:49.260 everything in Southern Illinois.

00:07:51.440 And, um, because even the dog, so I went to Southern Illinois university and its mascot is

00:07:58.980 the Saluki dog, which is traditionally, uh, uh, uh, Egyptian dog.

00:08:03.680 Okay.

00:08:04.200 It was used supposedly to protect the temples.

00:08:07.940 Okay.

00:08:09.540 So long story short, get to talking to him.

00:08:12.240 And he says, you know, um, there are rumors that there are huge sarcophagi, or I guess

00:08:18.980 sarcophagus, whichever, I don't know how to do the plural of that.

00:08:22.480 Uh, English is my third language.

00:08:24.240 So, so he says, he says they're, they're about eight.

00:08:29.260 They're supposedly anywhere from 12 to 18 feet tall in this cave out there in a garden of

00:08:35.520 the gods.

00:08:36.000 So I was like, uh, um, what, what's 12 to eight feet, 18 feet tall.

00:08:41.340 I mean, this is the dog you're talking about here.

00:08:43.160 Sorry.

00:08:44.820 Yes.

00:08:45.700 Yeah.

00:08:46.100 It looks exactly like the one that we had in school.

00:08:48.600 Yeah, exactly like that.

00:08:50.900 They had a bunch of them.

00:08:52.240 So are you saying that there was a 12 to 18 foot tall sarcophagus?

00:08:57.400 Not that I did not.

00:08:58.760 I am not saying that I saw that.

00:09:01.060 Okay.

00:09:01.440 What I am saying is that the locals have, have talked about it for over a hundred years.

00:09:07.720 And he said that, uh, it's pretty likely that there is something there because he had said

00:09:15.160 that there are some areas in and around garden of the gods and different cave entrances and

00:09:18.960 that, uh, where you will be escorted off the premises if you're in the wrong place.

00:09:25.620 Hmm.

00:09:26.600 And he, he had heard this since the sixties, cause that's when he started as that's when

00:09:31.800 he, he was going to school there and then eventually became a professor anyways.

00:09:36.120 Uh, so this goes on in my head for a few days and the weekends coming up and I go, you know,

00:09:41.820 maybe we should go check this out.

00:09:43.400 This is kind of interesting.

00:09:44.360 And we would go on hikes all the time anyways.

00:09:46.700 So, uh, we would, we would go out to, uh, Kentucky and, and these various, uh, areas and go camp

00:09:54.220 and that, um, and also too, at the time I was kind of big into the rave scene.

00:09:58.360 So, uh, we would oftentimes, uh, go to these, you know, three day events or, or whatever.

00:10:03.680 So we were kind of outdoorsy at the time.

00:10:06.900 So we decided that we're going to go over there.

00:10:09.260 Um, we get to actually talking to some of the locals and it gets really weird now because

00:10:13.680 the locals are very, have a very, uh, difference, a very large difference of opinion.

00:10:22.500 There are people that if you talk to them about it, they either lock up or they get angry at

00:10:29.020 you, or there are people who will go, Oh, you know, uh, come over to my house and meet my

00:10:35.580 uncle because, you know, he secondhand knows somebody that had been out there and has seen

00:10:42.060 these, uh, huge artifacts, right?

00:10:44.880 Supposedly some of them.

00:10:45.660 I was thinking about not speaking and totally freezing up my body just to throw the audience

00:10:49.560 for a loop.

00:10:50.340 Yeah.

00:10:51.280 That would have been cool.

00:10:51.960 Okay.

00:10:52.780 There we go.

00:10:53.400 So you were saying that, um, some people might even invite you over to meet like their uncle

00:10:58.760 for, for what purpose?

00:11:00.180 To talk about the various stories that they've had that passed down from generation to generation

00:11:06.280 concerning the people discovering these large artifacts.

00:11:11.460 And I mean, we got such varied opinions on it that it really kind of upped the level

00:11:18.740 of intrigue to a point that, you know, it was almost irresistible to go out there.

00:11:23.240 So based on people that we spoke to, uh, in and around town, the locals, uh, we kind of

00:11:29.640 figured out an area that would most likely be where, you know, we would most likely find this cave

00:11:37.980 entrance that everyone was talking about.

00:11:40.220 Now, here's the weird thing.

00:11:42.560 Uh, we go out there and we start searching around in that area and we see what looks like

00:11:49.840 a cave entrance and it's, it's very well formed and you can even kind of see down into the

00:11:57.160 cracks between the rocks, but there is this huge rock that's in front of it.

00:12:03.400 And so we're there with pair of binoculars and we're just kind of walking around and

00:12:06.380 just looking and walk for another, you know, 10 minutes or whatever.

00:12:09.580 And we look around at these different rock formations and I don't know if you saw, but

00:12:13.820 some of those rock formations too, do not look organic in garden of the gods, especially

00:12:19.820 not for the Midwest area.

00:12:22.480 Yeah.

00:12:23.140 Um, Hey Nancy, I don't, if you're, if you're there, can you pull up some of the images of

00:12:27.440 garden in the gods or garden of the gods in Illinois?

00:12:30.780 Cause you also get ones for, for Colorado, but a lot of them from my memory, they seem

00:12:36.960 to look like stacked, like, you know, how, like a person would stack stones, but I mean,

00:12:40.860 this would have to be, uh, a tremendous, did we just, what was that like a power fluctuation?

00:12:45.500 That was weird.

00:12:45.840 It just got dark in here.

00:12:46.660 Um, uh, this would have to be a tremendous person.

00:12:49.600 Okay.

00:12:49.760 It looks like Nancy's already got some stuff, uh, pulled up.

00:12:53.380 I got a thing right here.

00:12:54.420 Actually.

00:12:54.900 Uh, yeah.

00:12:55.480 Can you put that on there?

00:12:56.160 Cause I got this little dookie ass mouse.

00:12:58.400 Um, let me see some of these images because I remember that specifically, they look like

00:13:04.000 they're, I mean, gigantic boulders and yeah, this is, uh, that's fascinating.

00:13:09.400 Look at some of these are crazy.

00:13:11.900 There's a staircase there, the staircase, you know, I guess you could have a traditional

00:13:16.720 explanation as to how that came to be.

00:13:18.500 But a lot of these look like, you know, how you see people in like rivers and they'll

00:13:23.300 stack stones.

00:13:24.380 Yeah.

00:13:24.740 Yeah.

00:13:24.920 They'll like put them together.

00:13:26.480 Yeah.

00:13:26.760 Which by the way, people get pissed off.

00:13:28.120 Like you're not supposed to do that.

00:13:29.060 I don't know what the hell.

00:13:29.900 I mean, if you could stack a stone, dude, go for it.

00:13:31.560 You're not supposed to do that.

00:13:32.440 I don't know.

00:13:32.980 It disrupts the natural flow of, of stones, stones, people get pissed off.

00:13:39.000 You know, it has a spiritual aspect to it.

00:13:41.800 Supposedly it's like bad luck or something.

00:13:43.740 If you do that near water.

00:13:46.180 So that's interesting.

00:13:47.540 Um, so what's fascinating about the idea of garden of the gods to me is just to give

00:13:54.700 you an idea, Rob, of, of how this place came to, to pique my interest.

00:13:59.000 We get a lot of strange stories coming out of Southern Indiana.

00:14:03.560 Um, a lot of visions and dreams, uh, being in underground caverns, being recruited, or

00:14:10.240 at least petitioned to be recruited by some entity.

00:14:14.380 And, and these people that have had these dreams and visions, they're actually unrelated

00:14:19.200 to one another.

00:14:19.940 They don't know each other or anything.

00:14:22.060 In some cases they do, but you know, eventually it's like, you're dealing with a lot of people

00:14:25.300 that are disconnected, don't know each other.

00:14:26.900 The only great connective tissue they have is living in Southern Indiana and having these

00:14:31.760 bizarre visions.

00:14:32.600 So given that it happens in an underground corridor, you know, you're going to look to

00:14:36.360 see if there's cave systems there.

00:14:37.780 Turns out in the Appalachian mountains, the biggest cave system in North America, it does

00:14:43.180 deviate from the Appalachias and it's stretches West right through Southern Indiana and into

00:14:48.340 Illinois.

00:14:48.620 And then I, I, you know, sometimes you hear of a town or a road, let's say, and it'll be

00:14:56.120 called like the crone's finger.

00:14:59.080 And you, and then you find out that the reason it's called the crone's finger is because like

00:15:03.180 200 years ago, people were talking about, there's a witch that lives on that road.

00:15:06.220 So sometimes places have a weird name and it's because historically something strange happened

00:15:11.540 there.

00:15:11.680 So I'm looking now for places with a weird name, none are more stranger to me than Garden

00:15:17.400 of the Gods, because it sounds like an inversion.

00:15:21.680 You have the Garden of God, right?

00:15:23.300 Like the Garden of Eden.

00:15:25.100 And then you have the Garden of the Gods, which to me is like the fallen are emulating, you

00:15:31.520 know, what goes on in the heavenly realms when they're cast down, something like that,

00:15:34.760 to that effect.

00:15:35.260 So I'm like, okay, the last straw for me, I go, let's look up cryptid sightings in this

00:15:41.660 area.

00:15:42.160 Is it, does it happen at all?

00:15:43.920 You get everything, Bigfoot, gnomes, Dogman, and tons more all take place in the Garden of

00:15:51.860 the Gods.

00:15:52.300 So this is how this place first gets on my radar.

00:15:55.000 And, and just to your point, Rob, if you look at this place, like it is a bizarre, unique,

00:16:00.560 it's beautiful, but it also does not seem organic.

00:16:03.360 No, not at all.

00:16:05.620 And that, and that's the beauty of it.

00:16:08.240 And the fascination is that it definitely looks like some giants, gods went over there

00:16:15.820 and just started stacking stuff up.

00:16:18.000 Like maybe it was a giant facility of some sort or a giant temple at one point.

00:16:24.240 A lot of these formations, they just don't work out as far as that part of the country

00:16:32.140 either that, you know, you see these kinds of formations typically out West, and there's

00:16:37.400 a reason that they can explain in a way they can say, well, you know, there's, you know,

00:16:43.240 this used to be underwater.

00:16:44.720 That's one of the things that they say, you know, especially about like in this area,

00:16:48.240 New Mexico and Arizona.

00:16:49.720 That's why we have all the sand, allegedly.

00:16:53.280 So, you know, water has some unique abilities to be able to wash sand away from rocks.

00:17:00.880 And then the rocks settle on top of each other.

00:17:02.980 Okay.

00:17:03.260 That, those hydrodynamics make sense in that they could do that.

00:17:07.400 And then eventually when the water was, uh, was moved away from that area, then you would

00:17:12.820 be left with these rocks that were kind of set on top of each other.

00:17:15.800 Okay, fine.

00:17:16.960 What happened here?

00:17:18.440 This, this doesn't make any sense.

00:17:19.940 You know, that, that action doesn't occur there.

00:17:23.560 And there's so much foliage, uh, it just, it just doesn't add up, you know?

00:17:28.800 So, and a lot of that is, is an elevation that's above the tree lines.

00:17:32.620 So I've seen images from garden of the gods where, you know, you're still among those stacked

00:17:37.460 rock formations, but you're looking over tree lines, you know, you're, you're at a pretty

00:17:42.560 considerable elevation.

00:17:43.540 So yeah, that would be, that'd be a lot of water.

00:17:46.500 Well, I mean, yeah, yeah.

00:17:49.320 You know, it makes you wonder, is that, is that where they went to hide?

00:17:53.160 You know, if you're thinking of the giant flood myth, right.

00:17:56.800 Is this kind of some sort of proof of the flood myth, perhaps it's, it's hard to,

00:18:02.860 it's hard to know offhand and no one's going to want to admit that, especially not even

00:18:06.420 with a professorship, uh, because they like their tenure and they don't want to be run

00:18:10.820 out on a, on a crazy rail, you know?

00:18:13.060 Right.

00:18:13.880 So, um, but they were willing to talk to me about it.

00:18:16.980 So it's interesting.

00:18:19.020 Um, there are some people that have told me that, uh, there's a Mormon connection to

00:18:24.280 this, by the way, which is another interest.

00:18:26.760 We have to be careful with this.

00:18:28.280 Yeah.

00:18:28.400 We have a lot of Mormon fans and, uh, uh, they, you know, they, they don't like when

00:18:33.200 we, when we besmirch their, their organization, what, what are the Mormons have to do with,

00:18:37.960 uh, this area?

00:18:39.600 Well, supposedly there is a few Mormons who have told me this now don't, don't forget.

00:18:44.920 Mormonism, uh, is like Christianity.

00:18:47.800 It has some divergence in thought, right?

00:18:52.360 So some Mormons that I had run across that said, oh yeah, um, supposedly, um, Joseph Smith

00:18:59.300 found some other tablets in that area and some other artifacts.

00:19:06.200 That's interesting.

00:19:07.600 Yeah.

00:19:08.080 So that was one that blew me away.

00:19:09.200 Now I didn't find this out till, you know, almost 10 years ago or, or, or something like

00:19:13.240 this, cause I had related this story to a Mormon friend of mine and he's like, oh yeah, we know

00:19:17.200 all about that.

00:19:17.860 And I'm like, well, of course you guys do because anything that's Egyptian, you guys seem down

00:19:22.240 with, I don't know if you've ever noticed that those connections, um, with some of the

00:19:26.840 stories that the Mormons tell.

00:19:28.300 And then some of the stories from, uh, the, the Egyptian, uh, lore are very similar.

00:19:35.260 And it's a, it's a weird kind of overlap because we've had, um, Dr. Narco Longo on the

00:19:39.880 show, uh, who's not a doctor at all.

00:19:41.740 And he says that if you look at, there's like all of these things about America where

00:19:47.640 he believes the entire map has been inverted and that America was actually Egypt.

00:19:52.320 He thinks that the Mississippi was the Nile.

00:19:55.240 Um, you know, you have Memphis tennis.

00:19:57.660 There's like a lot of, uh, Egyptian names, especially in and around like the Mississippi

00:20:02.740 and, and things of that nature.

00:20:04.980 Um, and then, yeah, when you look into the grand Canyon, supposedly there's like Egyptian

00:20:09.520 artifacts that were found in there, hieroglyphics, um, all kinds of, you know, carving statues,

00:20:15.960 et cetera.

00:20:16.660 Tons of pyramids all over the place.

00:20:17.720 Right.

00:20:18.040 Yeah.

00:20:18.340 The, the burial mounds, which each time one of them is dug up, it's a pyramid.

00:20:22.860 So, you know, the speculation is that many of these mounds that seem to be hills are actually

00:20:27.700 pyramids.

00:20:28.240 So I don't know where to place that exactly, but it wouldn't surprise me given the tablets

00:20:35.540 and the etchings and, you know, things of that nature.

00:20:38.100 And the Mormon's interest in the more mystic side of, of Christianity, um, more relic driven,

00:20:45.760 uh, lore wouldn't surprise me at all.

00:20:50.140 Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that too, because we, our best, our best artifact

00:20:54.940 that we have here in New Mexico is Chaco Canyon, where there are, uh, pre, uh, proto Hebraic

00:21:01.600 carvings in a cave wall out here that don't match any of the other civilizations that inhabited

00:21:11.620 the area.

00:21:12.340 Not to mention too, now that they've found that there is eight, now they're going back

00:21:18.340 eight million years now, they think was the first proto, proto Indian, I think it was proto

00:21:27.180 Aryan, uh, remains were found that were 8 million years old and they had with them evidence

00:21:33.520 of civilization tools, uh, utensils, et cetera, uh, pottery, 8 million years old.

00:21:41.560 So our, our whole idea of what we believe as far as our origin, own origin stories are

00:21:48.960 completely wrong.

00:21:49.800 Uh, not to mention too, uh, if you've ever seen, and I've talked about it before, cause

00:21:54.400 oddly enough, I want my reparations because I'm part of that genetic lineage from Siberia.

00:22:00.440 So I'm like, Hey, they found Siberian DNA that predates, uh, any remains that they found

00:22:07.280 that were native American here in North America.

00:22:09.700 So now, uh, they, based on that, Russia is making a legal claim to the UN and saying, Hey,

00:22:18.700 that's actually our land.

00:22:21.080 Oh, they want to claim to North America.

00:22:24.060 So there's a lot of people that believe that the, that are starting to put it together and

00:22:28.300 are thinking that maybe Putin's gambit with this war, uh, against Ukraine and now against

00:22:35.400 greater Europe, as it looks like it's developing into is actually part of that claim that he

00:22:41.280 wants to make.

00:22:42.000 And if you remember, he was going back through and, and he was Reese, he was looking into the

00:22:47.740 DNA of the Scythian warriors, which depending on how you look at it, some of that Scythian

00:22:55.000 lineage could actually be part of the Malta lineage that was found here in North America.

00:23:01.640 So that may be the base.

00:23:03.440 Cause everyone's like, well, why is he messing with DNA?

00:23:05.220 You know, they don't have a really good economy, right?

00:23:08.560 They're, they're, their military is, uh, mediocre at best.

00:23:14.040 Um, you know, there's a lot of other things he should be concentrating on.

00:23:17.380 Why is he concentrating on this Scythian DNA study?

00:23:21.540 Well, because that Scythian DNA study, my hypothesis is that that may link him to a claim, uh, to areas

00:23:29.820 of North America.

00:23:30.700 One of the things Narco Longo said was that they found burial mounds that were, um, you

00:23:38.980 know, done in the style that only the Vikings were known for having done.

00:23:43.200 And what's famous in the Tampa area of Florida are these stones that have these tremendous

00:23:51.740 holes bore through them.

00:23:54.220 Um, and I believe there's a terminology called like waterways, which is just, you know, over

00:24:00.640 time, water will find its way through a stone.

00:24:03.600 If there's a continual drip or stream running, it'll eventually work its way.

00:24:07.820 But they're, they're not very distinct in, in the way that they appear.

00:24:12.260 Um, these boreholes, they are typically perfectly symmetrical and they're centered on the stone.

00:24:19.340 And this would have been a type of anchor that, uh, that the Vikings were also famous for using.

00:24:24.900 And you will find those stones all over the Tampa area.

00:24:28.760 I've seen them myself out and about, uh, with my wife.

00:24:32.440 I, there's even a parking lot in Tampa that just has one like kind of situated at the mouth

00:24:37.240 of the parking lot.

00:24:38.460 Um, there are lawns with them on there.

00:24:41.080 They're embedded in the ground.

00:24:43.000 They're kind of a novelty.

00:24:44.760 Homeowners will keep them there.

00:24:45.880 Um, I know in, in my area, there was one that was between the lawn and the curb.

00:24:51.100 So right there on that strip of grass, there's a lot of signs.

00:24:55.000 It, it, one in particular was this, uh, we, we spoke about it recently and somebody in

00:24:59.780 the chat, uh, called out what the name of it was.

00:25:01.700 I forget what it was, but there is a stone outside of a restaurant in Port Ritchie, New

00:25:07.120 Port Ritchie, Florida, which is in Tampa Bay area.

00:25:10.300 A drogue stone.

00:25:11.420 I forget what the heck it's called.

00:25:12.900 I think they used it for a number of things, including sacrifices.

00:25:16.120 And there was a face carved into it.

00:25:19.020 The whole thing becomes really hard to understand too, because you're saying that one of these

00:25:23.700 things dates back to 8 million years ago.

00:25:26.300 I don't know if you're familiar with, um, with Ed Mabry, who's a, uh, repeating guest

00:25:32.340 on the show.

00:25:33.520 And when he first came on our show, one of the things that he determined that was really

00:25:39.260 fascinating, we asked him to come on and speak about it was this idea that the speed

00:25:42.240 of light is slowing down, that it is not a constant.

00:25:45.980 And, um, and so there's this idea that the speed of light was much faster, you know, thousands

00:25:53.460 of years ago.

00:25:54.800 But one of the things he talked about, cause that has a lot of effects is the effect that

00:25:58.880 it would have on carbon dating.

00:26:00.100 And because it was so much faster back then that it would make things look like they were

00:26:08.040 incredibly old.

00:26:09.620 It was, it's kind of hard.

00:26:11.000 I'm, I'm retarded to be on my grasp.

00:26:13.500 Do you remember what I'm talking about?

00:26:14.660 I think it's because like the, uh, the constitution of things would have been, uh, I guess more

00:26:18.980 firm for lack of better words back then because of how, uh, because of how the, I guess the,

00:26:26.100 the closeness of the main source of light would have made the atom speed around the, the neutrons.

00:26:32.440 So that would make like desks and tables and people more dense and more and built, uh, with

00:26:38.260 a stronger constitution.

00:26:39.140 So when you look back at it, I guess the degradation of these things, you'd look, you say, I don't

00:26:44.840 really know how they do the carbon dating nowadays, but I'm sure that if like, if, uh, you know,

00:26:50.140 this metal object was denser back then, we couldn't correctly measure its date according

00:26:55.360 to how much it's deteriorated because we really don't have a starting point on it.

00:27:00.060 And that's kind of what he was saying.

00:27:01.720 I, man, that's something we haven't talked about with him in a long time.

00:27:05.860 And I wonder if he's made any ground on that.

00:27:08.060 We should, we should discuss it with him.

00:27:09.520 But I do remember that it was, it would impact things so that effectively today you would

00:27:15.960 take a carbon sample.

00:27:16.980 It would make something seem incredibly old, but that would be totally skewed.

00:27:20.740 Um, uh, so I, I wonder what the date on it actually would be if that's the case.

00:27:25.680 Um, but yeah, there's a lot of evidence that shows the people who were settled in the Americas.

00:27:33.880 I saw somebody in the chat saying pre-flood civilization, you know?

00:27:37.820 Yeah, uh, we're much more diverse than just the Native Americans that were alleged to be

00:27:44.220 here when, you know, whoever Europeans arrived.

00:27:47.200 Uh, the story that we get is just bullshit.

00:27:50.200 It's also, well, to go back to the Garden of the Gods thing, um, we, we've had on, uh,

00:27:56.440 Sean Griffin of Kingdom in Context recently, and he's been bringing about this idea of the

00:28:01.060 Vamanas and not just that, but the idea of, uh, an entire floating city, the city of the

00:28:06.940 gods, which you'll find in all different mythologies.

00:28:09.300 You'll even see it in, uh, the Avengers movies most recently and other popular culture movies

00:28:14.480 as well.

00:28:14.940 It's like, this is where, uh, I don't know, entities like Ra, Satan, the Pantheon will

00:28:21.680 go up into their castles in the sky and they reside there.

00:28:26.120 And people were pretty comfortable saying like, yeah, that's their, their home.

00:28:31.280 Um, so the garden, would that imply that they were like, their edifice was there in this

00:28:38.680 area, but when they come down, like, this is my garden, like my garden's over there,

00:28:42.820 but my house is on this hill, like here, you know?

00:28:47.220 I don't know, man.

00:28:48.120 It's, uh, it's just a weird thing that we get, especially for, for America.

00:28:52.660 But yeah, that, that whole thing, I know it's, it's, it's in all that popular culture that

00:28:57.420 he was showing us.

00:28:58.040 There's like a really popular anime with the city in the sky, kingdom hearts, does a city

00:29:01.560 in the sky, uh, uh, uh, Avengers did a city in the sky.

00:29:05.720 And the way he was saying was the language surrounding Mount Olympus.

00:29:09.660 If you look back at it historically through what we regard as mythology, but they don't

00:29:14.060 regard it as mythology.

00:29:14.820 Even modern day Greeks are like, that's not mythology dog.

00:29:18.040 Um, and if you look at that, it's much more described as like some giant suspended city

00:29:23.440 in the, in the clouds.

00:29:24.240 So, um, I don't know what to, to make of it, but yeah, it's a tops point.

00:29:28.040 Uh, it seems that the, the Vedic's, um, you know, ancient India, they had something that

00:29:34.140 would be akin to a flying city.

00:29:36.680 Exactly.

00:29:37.420 And here, here's another interesting connection that I never made until just right now.

00:29:42.980 Um, when I was stationed in Creek, Greece, uh, obviously that's where the Minotaur was.

00:29:48.880 There's huge, huge cave, uh, there's, there's just gigantic cave structures all over in, in

00:29:56.600 that area of Greece on that Island.

00:29:58.740 Now, here's the interesting thing.

00:30:01.080 Same thing happened to me there.

00:30:02.900 Uh, if you go and you try and go into the caves in Crete, you will be run out of that

00:30:09.640 pretty quick.

00:30:10.520 People will show up.

00:30:11.720 A lot of times they will have actually guards at cave entrances.

00:30:16.320 And what they say is it's because it's for your own safety.

00:30:19.360 It's this, it's that, um, that was in 1991 when I was there.

00:30:24.620 Um, but you know, there's plenty of people, plenty of the locals are like, there's nothing

00:30:30.340 wrong with those caves.

00:30:31.140 We played in them, you know, all the time.

00:30:33.980 It was only in the, like the last, you know, five, four or five years that suddenly, you

00:30:38.920 know, nobody's allowed in the caves anymore.

00:30:40.880 And sometimes you could find a rogue entrance somewhere that wasn't being guarded or didn't

00:30:46.660 have, uh, didn't have any, uh, so they used to put this like mesh.

00:30:50.400 So what they would do is they'd take chains across the front of the entrance and these chains

00:30:56.300 would hang.

00:30:57.000 They would, they would actually bolt them in up above the cave entrance on the rocks and

00:31:03.120 then have the chains come down and they were basically meshed into like a net, right?

00:31:08.980 A chain.

00:31:09.880 So you couldn't get into most of the entrances, but some of the entrances would actually have,

00:31:14.580 uh, their, their version of park service, just sitting there waiting for you to try and

00:31:19.460 go in.

00:31:19.780 And it's like, that's interesting that you would spend this much money to have a public

00:31:24.300 servant sit there and, you know, with what they make, which is pretty decent money in

00:31:28.540 Greece just to sit there all day and just make sure nobody comes near the cave entrance.

00:31:33.120 That's odd, right?

00:31:36.400 That's interesting because you would, as a public servant, probably not know what the

00:31:40.860 hell you're doing.

00:31:41.860 You're just told to sit there and guard it.

00:31:44.140 I wonder when the, you know, it's pretty clear now that we have a tremendous amount of,

00:31:50.460 uh, deep underground military races and that's not a secret.

00:31:54.020 Maybe there was once upon a time where that was, but, you know, uh, even the story of Phil

00:31:58.400 Schneider who I've butchered on a tinfoil hat, much to my dismay.

00:32:02.240 Um, I called him Whitley Stryber and now I'm a fool and a moron.

00:32:05.960 Uh, but, but, uh, Phil Schneider, you know, he's just telling you a story you can choose

00:32:11.980 to believe it or not.

00:32:12.800 But what does seem to be true is that he was contracted to build these deep underground

00:32:16.680 military bases, um, before he had his fingers, uh, blown off by some sort of alien and his

00:32:21.980 guts, uh, strewn about, um, and then, you know, killed, uh, after multiple attempts on

00:32:27.340 his life.

00:32:27.680 But it's pretty open and obvious now that deep underground military bases are a thing.

00:32:32.780 That's not a secret anymore.

00:32:33.600 So a lot of people are speculating, are they doomsday bunkers?

00:32:37.560 And there's a lot of, you know, evidence that suggests like, yeah, the elites are preparing

00:32:41.620 for, but when did they start preparing?

00:32:43.580 And, and I wonder if it would have been similar to the time where all of these areas started

00:32:49.640 getting barred off to the public, because it strikes me as pretty obvious that like,

00:32:53.320 if you wanted to do that, make a deep underground military base to try to survive some sort of

00:32:57.840 coming calamity, let's say like a polar shift or something like that.

00:33:00.800 Um, you would probably start with whatever natural structures already existed.

00:33:06.540 So a cave system would be a pretty obvious place to, to, you know, start, uh, fleshing

00:33:13.060 out your deep underground military base.

00:33:14.660 I just can't help but why there's probably no way to get a number on that.

00:33:18.180 When did that, um, endeavor start of dumbs?

00:33:22.160 Uh, but would it have been around the same time?

00:33:25.220 Well, you, you, I mean, if you look back, I mean, the Smithsonian was going and clearing

00:33:29.060 out artifacts from caves all the way back to, well, actually, you know, oddly enough,

00:33:34.620 it seems like the wholesale use of the Smithsonian to clear out cave systems and artifacts was

00:33:40.740 right before the civil war.

00:33:42.880 So I had another thought that, um, what if, what if the civil war was a distraction to keep

00:33:51.320 us from digging any further into these artifacts?

00:33:56.280 Because right about that time is when you, you know, you had people going to Egypt, you

00:34:00.020 had a lot of people here finding giants, right.

00:34:04.520 And evidence of giants all throughout North America, um, either accidentally or intentionally

00:34:09.340 in some cases, because, uh, they think that a lot of the artifacts were taken by the Smithsonian,

00:34:14.880 but just an equal, or maybe even more were actually sold on the black market to, you know, royalty

00:34:21.800 and robber parents of the era, right.

00:34:24.900 For their personal collections.

00:34:27.380 And if I am, you know, and obviously we're at that time, we're, we're moving westward and

00:34:35.200 there's homesteading occurring.

00:34:37.660 Well, then you have interesting things that happen.

00:34:40.580 Like, I don't know if you've ever heard of the Maxwell land grant.

00:34:42.660 It's basically where Maxwell tricked the federal government into giving him a huge plot of land

00:34:49.840 out here, um, near, um, Cimarron, New Mexico.

00:34:55.800 So he's got this gigantic plot of land and this ties into the Lincoln County wars.

00:35:02.920 So next thing you start thinking is, okay, so Maxwell gets this huge plot of land and suddenly

00:35:10.400 he's evacuating all the people, all the settlers that had paid, that were paying him and working

00:35:15.500 for him to get their plot of land.

00:35:18.140 Suddenly he decides he needs to get them all off of the land.

00:35:22.200 And there's never been a good explanation as to why that happened.

00:35:25.280 Uh, which by the way, my great grandmother and her family were run off their, uh, plot in, uh,

00:35:34.540 near Cimarron.

00:35:36.160 So I have, I have some familial relationship to this situation, which is why I started.

00:35:41.440 We're saying, um, paid like for their plot of land or actually run off entirely.

00:35:47.240 No, they, some of them had already had title indeed and were told they needed to leave.

00:35:51.300 And it's strange because only just this last year have they allowed the lawsuits for the

00:35:58.020 loss of the land to be brought against the federal government.

00:36:02.300 It took almost a hundred years over a hundred years.

00:36:04.940 By this point, it doesn't even matter.

00:36:06.340 I mean, I'm sure it's, it's, you know, some sort of solace to, uh, you know, the family

00:36:10.660 members and everything, but whatever they were hoping to do with that land, they were like,

00:36:15.160 let's just take it.

00:36:16.300 We'll deal with the legal ramifications.

00:36:17.940 Yeah.

00:36:18.620 Apologize later.

00:36:19.360 We'll pay them.

00:36:19.980 But whatever is there is, is of some urgency.

00:36:23.200 So, yeah.

00:36:23.780 See, so the conflict didn't make any sense from that standpoint.

00:36:27.920 And as we know, that area is just due east of Dulce, right?

00:36:35.340 Which is where the Phil Schneider events all occurred.

00:36:38.120 Okay.

00:36:38.560 So New Mexico, obviously, as you know, well know that it's a, it's a mess of different lore

00:36:44.320 and, and different battles and strife and strange decisions that were made by the federal

00:36:51.180 government.

00:36:51.680 Um, you know, and, and they decided to make a nuclear bomb here, which makes you wonder,

00:36:57.780 were they gleaning some of their knowledge from ancient artifacts?

00:37:01.940 You start to wonder that.

00:37:03.200 And also to one of the last texts on Epstein's phone, uh, when, when he was taken into custody,

00:37:11.260 had GPS coordinates to a borehole that is just outside of Dulce.

00:37:17.420 I've been meaning to go out there and I have not done it yet, but I know exactly where it

00:37:21.300 is.

00:37:22.140 Don't do it.

00:37:22.640 Yeah.

00:37:23.460 Well, I mean, shout out to, uh, uh, Jeremy Ryan Slate, uh, L Ron Hubbard, you know, he's

00:37:30.860 out there in the, I'm just busted as well as I love Jeremy.

00:37:34.020 Um, uh, L Ron Hubbard is out there in the deserts of New Mexico with, uh, with, uh, Jack

00:37:38.980 Parsons and they're jerking each other off and, and, you know, doing all these kinds of

00:37:42.820 Babylonian workings from, from Alistair Crowley's works.

00:37:46.020 And so whatever the hell's going on there.

00:37:48.700 Um, and I'm not saying Jeremy Ryan Clark had anything to do with that.

00:37:51.760 That's, that's, I reject that.

00:37:53.420 I reject that premise, but, but, um, yeah, I mean, you know, it's Jeremy Ryan Slate.

00:37:58.540 I'm sorry.

00:37:58.880 Uh, uh, it's a strange area filled with a lot of strangeness.

00:38:02.540 You get the, the, the supposed UFO crash.

00:38:05.960 Not just that.

00:38:06.580 I mean, the entire place seems, I've never been there, but from what I hear, it seems

00:38:10.200 like a little bit of a, like a meth den.

00:38:12.960 Everyone's kind of downtrodden.

00:38:14.160 It's a desert, right?

00:38:15.000 I mean, yeah, we're New Mexico is, is, you know, it's a desert, but it's also a desert

00:38:19.920 like that's like at altitude, which is odd.

00:38:22.640 So it's in a high place.

00:38:23.740 Yeah.

00:38:24.540 Yes.

00:38:24.980 Yes.

00:38:25.300 Yeah.

00:38:25.600 Um, well, look, before we go any further on that, we have given, uh, poor people far

00:38:29.820 too much.

00:38:30.820 Uh, let no one say that we're not generous, uh, and that we don't love our pores, but,

00:38:36.660 uh, alas, all good things have to come to an end.

00:38:38.700 If you want to continue watching this, patreon.com forward slash Nephilim death squad.

00:38:43.200 Otherwise give it a week and you'll watch the entire episode when it releases, uh, censored

00:38:48.640 though, because YouTube will ruin our lives if we don't.

00:38:53.820 Uh, okay.

00:38:54.400 So, so I, I'd like to pull it back a little bit though, before we get too far into all

00:38:58.300 of the fun lore of New Mexico.

00:38:59.700 And I want to know what the heck happened.

00:39:02.220 How did this, this saga end for you in garden of the gods?

00:39:06.400 Um, okay, so let me first explain to you that after this happened, both my wife and I were

00:39:16.360 kind of in shock, which didn't, didn't make sense.

00:39:20.380 And things were really foggy for the rest of that day.

00:39:25.060 Hmm.

00:39:25.900 And it was weird because normally I would have pushed back at least, um, because you know,

00:39:33.700 why, why are people in now?

00:39:36.060 I can't say that they're a military.

00:39:37.660 Okay.

00:39:37.900 I can't, now they might've been contractors, which would make more sense.

00:39:42.300 And from what I've heard from the community that, uh, I kind of circle in, um, which a lot

00:39:51.100 of them are like X Navy SEALs, X operators, X, a lot of X intelligence people that I rub shoulders

00:39:59.160 with on and off, especially out here, um, it's almost unavoidable.

00:40:03.960 Um, a lot of them that I spoke to said that none of those.

00:40:09.400 Dumbs as we would like to call them are administered by the military at all.

00:40:13.820 They're all done by contractors.

00:40:15.900 Hmm.

00:40:17.100 And the reason is compartmentalization.

00:40:20.320 They don't want some doofus like reality winner or, uh, Edwards.

00:40:26.320 Well, not Edward Snowden was a contractor who was in the military and then went to the NSA

00:40:30.920 or whatever, or, um, Bradley Manning, you know, going on some message board and saying,

00:40:37.960 Hey, there's an underground dude to do over here.

00:40:41.220 You know, everybody let's go ahead and flash off it.

00:40:44.360 Right.

00:40:44.480 We don't dead name on the show.

00:40:45.960 So please, uh, what is it?

00:40:47.400 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:40:48.840 That is a, that is a lady, a beautiful lady.

00:40:51.180 Uh, isn't it also true that, you know, once you're dealing with, with, uh, companies that

00:40:56.020 you're contracting to, there are a lot more, how do I put this lenient, not flexible, flexible.

00:41:02.320 I mean, these are all things that are true, but they're also more adept than government

00:41:06.320 workers.

00:41:07.060 True.

00:41:08.040 Yeah.

00:41:08.280 They get paid more.

00:41:09.240 So they have more incentive, generally speaking, and they can be disappeared.

00:41:12.580 And it's doesn't, you know, again, it doesn't hit the roster, right?

00:41:16.640 Like if a soldier disappears, uh, crap, we got it.

00:41:19.620 We have mandatory investigations we need to follow.

00:41:22.780 We need to follow these rules and go down the line.

00:41:26.060 But if, but you can always disavow some dipshit, you know, you can just go, if you're a, you

00:41:33.600 know, I don't know what happened to him.

00:41:34.620 Maybe he got, maybe he overdosed and didn't have enough Narcan or, you know, because let's

00:41:40.520 be honest, uh, and unfortunately a lot of people don't want to say this, but I'll, I'll

00:41:44.140 go ahead and say it and not make friends.

00:41:46.180 Um, a lot of the guys on the side, on the operator side, you know, they do end up with

00:41:51.780 a lot of injuries that in which they'll succumb to the use of fentanyl.

00:41:57.540 Why?

00:41:58.360 Because to get an oxy at the VA, you're going to be there all damn day and you probably won't

00:42:03.740 get it.

00:42:04.500 Okay.

00:42:05.240 But you can go, I can go a block to this dude laying on the street and I guarantee

00:42:11.660 he'll have a couple of Fenty's for me, you know?

00:42:15.080 Right.

00:42:15.740 And there'll be a dollar, you know, rather than 50 bucks if I go get them at the pharmacy.

00:42:21.400 So, you know, it, it, it, it's supply and demand.

00:42:25.820 It's a simple market forces.

00:42:27.720 So a lot of them are on that stuff.

00:42:29.600 So it's very easy for a contractor.

00:42:32.880 If a guy gets out of line to go, Oh, look, he overdosed.

00:42:36.100 Oh, look, you know, he did a Bradley Knoll.

00:42:38.540 You know, I'm sublime if you guys, I know I'm old.

00:42:42.000 Okay.

00:42:42.340 Come on.

00:42:43.200 I know Bradley.

00:42:44.000 I know Bradley.

00:42:44.580 Sublime rocks, dude.

00:42:45.580 We're old too, I guess.

00:42:46.860 Yeah, I guess so.

00:42:47.660 Okay.

00:42:47.940 We're going to be pushing 40.

00:42:49.800 You before me though.

00:42:51.180 Wow.

00:42:51.540 They also do say like a lot of the times, I'm just saying it's a true fact.

00:42:56.240 Okay.

00:42:56.500 But it hurts.

00:42:57.320 He's just sticking you over there.

00:42:58.580 I'm just saying if it hurts.

00:42:59.740 No, we've been fighting before.

00:43:01.060 He's been do some.

00:43:01.920 He came into the studio very angry.

00:43:03.740 No, you come into the studio every anger, you're angry every day.

00:43:07.240 Everybody sees your Twitter feed.

00:43:08.420 You're not fooling anybody.

00:43:11.120 He just hasn't had his coffee today.

00:43:12.800 I have had a lot of coffee.

00:43:14.480 Do we need an intervention?

00:43:15.060 No, everything is fine.

00:43:16.400 All right.

00:43:16.860 I'm not touching.

00:43:17.660 He's touching his gun.

00:43:19.080 I was just correcting it.

00:43:20.180 I didn't like the angle of my gun.

00:43:21.440 But, you know, when it comes to these representatives from private companies that are contracted,

00:43:29.480 it's, you know, every once in a while you just get one of these where it goes,

00:43:33.100 the owner of Insert Private Company has gone crazy.

00:43:37.840 They've gone crazy.

00:43:38.620 They've lost their mind.

00:43:39.540 They were in the streets.

00:43:40.880 They were doing X, Y, and Z.

00:43:42.920 This dude who's a millionaire or a billionaire in this privately owned company is in his underwear

00:43:48.180 in the streets acting a fool.

00:43:49.580 You know what I mean?

00:43:49.960 So it's like, yeah, they just go every once in a while they go crazy and you go, whoopsie,

00:43:53.240 don't know what that was about anyway, moving on.

00:43:55.820 And yeah, there's not all this litigation that has to be gone through because of the title

00:44:01.760 of military personnel.

00:44:03.280 Yeah, exactly that.

00:44:04.400 And, you know, they did it at the Vannevar Bush.

00:44:06.880 So threw them in a mental institution and they tried to do it to me, which is why I have

00:44:11.820 100% VA disability.

00:44:13.100 So, you know, because I was pointing out things that I was noticing.

00:44:18.600 Not allowed to do that.

00:44:20.840 You're not allowed to do that.

00:44:22.100 So what I find is that you could notice as much as you would like, as long as you preface

00:44:27.560 that or rather end it with, but I'm retarded.

00:44:32.040 And then, okay.

00:44:32.920 Or in Minecraft.

00:44:34.220 I saw this in Minecraft.

00:44:35.940 Yeah.

00:44:36.260 Yeah.

00:44:36.620 Yeah.

00:44:36.920 That's the new one, right?

00:44:37.840 Yeah.

00:44:38.260 Yeah.

00:44:38.500 I did this.

00:44:39.060 I'm going to kill you in Minecraft or, you know, I'm going to kill you.

00:44:42.020 I'm coming to your house where you live.

00:44:44.380 So, so yeah, I mean, there's a, there's, there's a lot of, it's a lot easier, I would

00:44:49.940 imagine to clean up that mess than it is to clean up one that takes place within the military.

00:44:53.960 But even within the military, they just kind of go like training exercise, training exercise.

00:45:00.320 So they'll get it done however they can.

00:45:02.580 But I'm sure one involves a lot more paperwork than the other.

00:45:05.660 I've got a broken neck from training exercise, but I'm not even going to get into that.

00:45:09.540 You know what I mean?

00:45:10.620 He was doing a lot of noticing during the training exercise.

00:45:13.620 And they put my cousin into like a solitary confinement just for, I mean, you know, he's

00:45:18.260 a disagreeable guy, but not to the, oh yeah.

00:45:21.480 Drove him crazy.

00:45:22.380 In your family?

00:45:23.140 Yep.

00:45:23.540 In my family.

00:45:24.000 A disagreeable guy.

00:45:25.200 Well, I mean, he's kind of in my family, but this guy, this, this guy, but yeah, no,

00:45:30.140 they put him in, uh, in solitary kind of drove him crazy.

00:45:32.840 And now he's on, uh, uh, you know, all kinds of Medicaid.

00:45:36.560 Actually, I don't know if, if you're like an old tower gang fan, we had a segment called

00:45:40.180 yay or cray.

00:45:41.160 You remember that?

00:45:42.200 Um, no, I remember a Kiker Reich.

00:45:44.460 I don't remember.

00:45:45.300 So yay or cray was at the time when, uh, Kanye was going crazy and so was my cousin.

00:45:50.200 So we would read my cousin's Facebook posts and Kanye's tweets and we say, which is which

00:45:54.900 and you couldn't really tell.

00:45:56.460 Yeah.

00:45:56.620 Yeah.

00:45:56.760 But that's how, that's how he, he got there.

00:45:59.220 That's a great game.

00:46:00.140 Yeah.

00:46:00.300 I mean, they didn't, they just didn't care though.

00:46:01.560 They put him away for like months and nobody knew where he was at.

00:46:04.880 It was crazy.

00:46:05.380 He's getting lost in that system.

00:46:06.880 So that's called kettling in the military intelligence vernacular.

00:46:11.880 That's called kettling.

00:46:13.440 Okay.

00:46:14.500 So they'll toss somebody in jail on some bullshit, complete bullshit.

00:46:19.000 The better, the more bullshittier, the better, because you want the person to experience

00:46:24.800 that break where they question themselves.

00:46:28.100 So it could be for anything.

00:46:29.680 They'll literally make stuff up and just snatch somebody up with the MPs and off to the mental

00:46:34.020 institution.

00:46:35.500 And, uh, that is a time honored tradition.

00:46:38.460 And it's funny too, because most of the people that you see going crazy usually will have

00:46:43.300 like top secret clearances, like the highest clearances you can get.

00:46:46.760 And you're like, wait, how is this person going crazy?

00:46:50.000 When you did all this background check, why wouldn't you have come across that at some

00:46:54.200 point or another?

00:46:54.880 Or did you make him crazy?

00:46:56.520 That's probably more likely what you did.

00:46:58.800 You kettled him, you know, and they'll, and they'll start doing that.

00:47:01.880 They'll section you off.

00:47:03.120 They'll put you on extra duty all the time.

00:47:05.080 It'll, it'll begin slowly.

00:47:07.680 Right.

00:47:08.160 And they'll start ramping up the pressure.

00:47:09.940 So that's why whenever they say anyone in the military went crazy, I always go, did he

00:47:14.920 really go crazy or did you, did you put them on the bus and send them there?

00:47:19.240 You know what I mean?

00:47:20.360 Yeah, I guess that's the point, right?

00:47:21.880 So definitely, he's definitely crazy, but did he go there or did you send him there?

00:47:25.940 And I, to be honest now, thinking about like the sequence of events, even the personal

00:47:30.940 events in his life were really extreme and kind of like not according to like, not, not

00:47:39.160 what he would do.

00:47:40.060 That's known from a kid, but huh, maybe I need to rethink that.

00:47:44.220 That's a, we can do another, we could do another show on that.

00:47:48.080 I can go all day long on that one because I've at the language Institute, it is, as a

00:47:53.560 matter of fact, it is a running joke.

00:47:54.980 They call it hotel, California back in the eighties.

00:47:58.360 They used to call the languages to hotel, California, because so many people would check

00:48:02.660 in, but they could never leave because they would throw them in a mental institution.

00:48:05.960 I didn't know the reference before I got there.

00:48:09.100 Everyone said hotel, California.

00:48:10.480 I thought, oh, so it's a cool place.

00:48:11.720 And then I found out the reference and I was like, oh, no one told me that's what it was

00:48:15.700 about.

00:48:16.460 Oh shit.

00:48:17.700 What did I get myself into?

00:48:19.040 What did I get myself into?

00:48:20.040 Because that would happen.

00:48:21.040 They would just lose.

00:48:22.040 And you know, defense language Institute, they lose a lot of people in the mental health

00:48:26.720 Institute there.

00:48:28.100 They, they would, no one would find them or see them.

00:48:31.380 They would just end up dead on some street in Seattle or whatever.

00:48:35.660 So anyways, um, moving, moving back to the dumbs.

00:48:39.920 Um, yeah, it was that, it's that bad.

00:48:42.080 It was a, it was a running its own mean, you know, back in the day.

00:48:46.620 So go figure.

00:48:48.760 Um, so back to the, the dumbs or what we think are dumbs.

00:48:51.660 It's, it's hard to know which are really dumbs and which ones where they're just, um, guarding

00:48:57.520 artifacts of some sort.

00:48:59.420 And I think it's a mixture of the two.

00:49:02.240 Um, and I think that might be what's going on at garden of the gods is that they're just,

00:49:07.080 they're just security forces that are put there.

00:49:10.300 Um, but here's the thing.

00:49:11.640 My, my wife's last name actually means spirit and Korean and her and I are, I mean, we have

00:49:20.060 a lot of synchronicities and I swear to God, she's psychic.

00:49:24.620 Like she probably even knows I'm on this show right now, even though I don't tell her, I

00:49:27.720 don't have to tell her.

00:49:28.640 That's like literally how she is.

00:49:31.020 Uh, she's Nancy.

00:49:32.440 What's the, what's the Korean word for spirit?

00:49:34.560 Nancy.

00:49:35.300 She doesn't speak Korean.

00:49:36.900 Oh, okay.

00:49:37.180 I thought maybe she, she would know off the top of her head.

00:49:39.220 Don't Google it.

00:49:39.800 I just thought, cause she's, she's, um, of the, how do we want to put this?

00:49:44.400 Uh, slanty variety.

00:49:47.680 I thought, I just don't know each other.

00:49:49.380 Okay.

00:49:49.640 There's a bazillion of them.

00:49:50.800 I think they do all know each other.

00:49:52.420 Um, well, we were talking to Trey Hudson, right?

00:49:57.320 Of the Meadow project.

00:49:58.680 I don't know.

00:49:59.000 I'm old.

00:49:59.380 I don't remember.

00:49:59.780 I don't remember either.

00:50:01.720 We're getting up there.

00:50:03.340 Uh, you're 39, right?

00:50:05.200 No.

00:50:05.660 So, uh, Trey Hudson is, uh, you know, he's, he's got this military background and then he's

00:50:12.320 also got this, uh, thing that happens later on in his retirement where all of a sudden he finds

00:50:17.920 himself at the center of a strange happening in, uh, in, in a place that's only described

00:50:24.960 as the Meadow where you, you might imagine it like a Skinwalker ranch, right?

00:50:28.620 A high strangeness area.

00:50:30.220 My point is to say like, whatever his military intelligence background was, you could see

00:50:36.000 the overlap in what he then is interested in his retirement.

00:50:39.760 I think these things attract people.

00:50:42.420 If you have that proclivity, if you have that bent towards the supernatural, towards the

00:50:48.860 fantastic, um, you know, it's the same way if you get like a non-believer, a very strict

00:50:55.540 kind of, uh, uh, high skeptic atheist character and you put it in an area of high strangeness,

00:51:01.200 he'll go, nope, nothing's happening here.

00:51:03.200 But then there's another type of person that's like picking up on all of the, all of the

00:51:07.860 strangeness.

00:51:08.320 So, so I, I just think that there's, it's not a, it's not a, um, coincidence, uh, uh,

00:51:14.060 you know, you talking about the spiritual aspect, uh, to you and your wife and then, you know,

00:51:18.480 what ends up happening to you and then just all of the, all of the, the, the things that

00:51:22.920 you end up fascinated with for the rest of your life.

00:51:25.540 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:26.540 And, you know, I was always fascinated with this stuff as, as a kid, you know, just cause I

00:51:30.900 played Dungeons and Dragons and stuff.

00:51:32.480 I know I shouldn't admit that I should.

00:51:34.920 That's my, my son wants to play Dungeons and Dungeons and Dragons.

00:51:37.960 The only reason that I'm, I'm against it is because I think it's a, there's a tremendous

00:51:40.980 amount of reading involved, uh, for, for, for, well, for me, cause in order to teach him,

00:51:47.280 I have to learn it myself and I go, I can't say, I simply can't be by uploads and downloads.

00:51:51.900 You saw yesterday with the kids, they like they, he was over with his wife, his wife,

00:51:56.660 my wife, my kids bring down.

00:51:58.500 Yeah.

00:51:58.620 They bring down this thing.

00:51:59.760 They're like, let's do this.

00:52:00.500 I'm like, absolutely not.

00:52:01.460 There's a lot of reading.

00:52:02.360 There's like, it's a whole thing.

00:52:03.440 I don't want to do it.

00:52:04.140 Yeah.

00:52:04.400 That's why with my son, I'm like, you want to punch and kick?

00:52:06.720 You want to do karate?

00:52:07.900 We could do that.

00:52:08.640 But he's like, you want to read this?

00:52:09.820 They all can, no, dude, definitely don't want to do that.

00:52:11.660 Too old.

00:52:12.160 Can't actually read.

00:52:15.180 So yeah, I think that there is a correlation.

00:52:17.980 Like my, my schizophrenic, uh, interests as a, as a very young man here in, in, in, in current

00:52:26.500 day, uh, I would not be into them if it wasn't for all of the strangeness of, of, you know,

00:52:32.760 my, my, my life, my childhood and all the weird spiritual kind of happening.

00:52:36.360 So, you know, I, I think there's, um, these, these topics kind of call to us, uh, for better

00:52:42.940 or for worse.

00:52:44.140 Absolutely.

00:52:44.840 Absolutely.

00:52:45.720 And so with the, getting back to the dumbs and potentially dumbs, we, again, we, we don't

00:52:51.500 want to make statements that, that we don't a hundred percent know about.

00:52:54.800 We, all I know is that there was people who looked like they were in military gear.

00:52:58.760 Um, so the, the way it happened was interesting.

00:53:04.700 So that's not, that's not, that's not my wife.

00:53:08.240 Uh, is this kind of, is it, is this a pedophilia type thing or what's going on?

00:53:11.940 She goes, my husband is so old and embarrassing.

00:53:15.100 That is not my wife.

00:53:16.280 Uh, I know that because much like me, she doesn't like to read and she goes, I don't

00:53:20.120 like when you go behind the paywall.

00:53:21.520 I go, Hey, sign into our Patreon.

00:53:24.620 She won't do it.

00:53:25.280 She goes, no, simply not going to do that.

00:53:27.420 Uh, so I know that that's not her.

00:53:28.900 She said, what kind of supporting is that?

00:53:30.540 She, about a half an hour's worth of support.

00:53:32.820 That's what I get.

00:53:34.100 Wow.

00:53:34.620 But then she doesn't know all the crazy shit we talk about on the, behind, behind the

00:53:38.300 paywall door, you know, she is subjected to it constantly.

00:53:43.680 See, I don't, I don't, I don't let those things mix.

00:53:46.720 I don't, I mean, my, my wife, I separate that stuff from her because I don't want to

00:53:51.240 drive her as crazy as I am.

00:53:52.480 That would be terrible.

00:53:53.640 You know, my wife is immune to it.

00:53:55.700 She has gotten so good at the, like, like she does it like, like I'm a child.

00:54:01.020 She goes, wow.

00:54:02.220 She does it to me too.

00:54:03.800 It's, it's actually quite demeaning.

00:54:05.580 I go condescends to, to other people now.

00:54:08.520 Oh yeah.

00:54:09.060 She's, she's brutal.

00:54:10.460 Oh my God.

00:54:11.140 Wow.

00:54:11.680 That's great.

00:54:12.300 Top.

00:54:12.700 Yeah.

00:54:12.920 And then she scrolls.

00:54:13.900 Sometimes I look at her and I go, I go, Hey, tell me what I just said.

00:54:17.880 She goes, can't simply can't do that.

00:54:20.620 She just said a hundred percent.

00:54:22.960 She's great at it.

00:54:23.760 She's a master at it.

00:54:25.100 And then she'll show me later on.

00:54:26.760 She'll be like, look what this person on Tik TOK is saying.

00:54:28.600 I go, that's what I just said to you.

00:54:30.160 That's actually what I just said to you, but that's not me.

00:54:33.420 And that's something.

00:54:35.760 So I'm sorry, go on.

00:54:38.280 We'll, we'll switch back.

00:54:39.320 And so we're, so we're walking, we're walking around, we're trying to find this place, you

00:54:43.660 know, where it takes maybe about two hours to where, you know, I'm in what's, what's

00:54:48.480 weird is that's the only day we decided not to take the dogs.

00:54:52.100 So we left the dogs in the cabin, you know, maybe it was a good thing because we all know

00:54:57.260 how guys who are wearing all black and have guns are with dogs probably.

00:55:02.380 Oh yeah.

00:55:02.980 I mean, again, you know, they would have been long gone.

00:55:05.300 Um, so that worked out pretty well.

00:55:07.680 So she all of a sudden starts getting a headache.

00:55:10.520 This is the part I don't tell anybody.

00:55:12.340 Matter of fact, I don't even talk to her about this part of it because she gets a little weird.

00:55:17.120 She started, I got a headache.

00:55:18.720 You know, I want to go back.

00:55:21.180 And I'm like, Hmm, that's weird.

00:55:24.040 And I started feeling kind of weird and I'm like, you know, but I might just be tired or

00:55:29.980 I'm dehydrated or whatever.

00:55:31.740 You know, I've been walking for two fricking hours and it's like a hundred degrees out.

00:55:35.300 Uh, that area is not, um, is, is not a temperate area.

00:55:40.040 It's pretty hot out there and it's very humid.

00:55:42.800 Um, and this, if this was in September, right around this time of the year.

00:55:48.000 Um, so, uh, but we had one of those Indian summers where it was still, all of a sudden

00:55:52.220 it shot, temperature shot up and humidity was really high.

00:55:55.040 So we're sweating, sweating Jesus everywhere, you know?

00:55:58.720 And, uh, she's like, I got kind of a headache.

00:56:01.620 Like, okay, well, let's sit down.

00:56:02.940 And I am sitting there with the binoculars, just looking around, looking around.

00:56:06.000 I go, you know, that kind of, that kind of looks like what they were talking about.

00:56:10.500 Doesn't it?

00:56:11.700 She's like, yeah, but there's a big rock in front of it.

00:56:14.580 I don't, I don't think that's it.

00:56:15.940 I go, well, let's go over there.

00:56:18.060 Cause one thing they did tell us is that, uh, I was told by some of the locals that

00:56:22.660 you will notice a change, like look for things like headaches, or if you suddenly feel really

00:56:29.500 fatigued or whatever, that means you're probably close.

00:56:32.560 And then the other thing I thought is, well, shit, I think there's uranium deposits over

00:56:36.880 there and radium deposits.

00:56:38.880 So maybe, maybe that's what that is.

00:56:41.900 You know, it's, it's hard to, it's hard to know.

00:56:43.840 So, but oftentimes, oddly enough, where you find these temples is where you find gold

00:56:48.640 and where you find gold is where you find uranium and radium.

00:56:53.420 Oh, really?

00:56:54.160 That's interesting.

00:56:54.700 Why is that?

00:56:55.780 Um, it's just the way the geological format.

00:56:58.240 Well, I think a lot of it has to do with the density.

00:57:00.480 Remember we were talking about the density and the speed of light.

00:57:03.960 Well, usually you're going to find, so from gold to uranium, it's very similar density.

00:57:11.340 Right.

00:57:11.740 And I think you're only off by like maybe a handful of neutrons and electrons, et cetera.

00:57:18.040 So they, they'll tend to co-locate.

00:57:20.860 So where you find these heavier elements like this, they'll be, they'll be together or nearby

00:57:27.240 near each other.

00:57:28.120 Right.

00:57:29.480 Um, so I was like, well, okay, let's, let's look around.

00:57:32.820 And I said, look, before we leave, let's just walk over there.

00:57:35.140 And it was probably another mile actually.

00:57:37.280 Um, and it, I mean, the entrance is big, it's maybe 60 or 70 feet tall altogether.

00:57:44.700 So I said, let's just go see.

00:57:48.080 She doesn't want to go see.

00:57:49.060 She's probably still mad at me to this day for me making her go over there, by the way.

00:57:53.680 That's all another great thing about being married.

00:57:55.400 So, so, uh, we walk out, I drag her out there and she's like, come on, no, this is bullshit.

00:58:03.320 I don't want to be here.

00:58:04.360 I got really, and her headache's getting worse and worse to the point where I'm like, okay,

00:58:08.460 let's stop again.

00:58:09.220 So we stop again and I'm like, gosh, am I going to go back?

00:58:13.640 I may have to go, I may have to go back, come back here by myself or something.

00:58:18.960 I don't, I don't know what to do, you know?

00:58:21.360 And so she's getting this really bad migraine and I'm thinking that maybe I'll just have

00:58:24.520 to carry her if she'll let me, she's got to think about people picking her up for whatever

00:58:28.300 reason.

00:58:29.260 Um, but she doesn't weigh anything.

00:58:30.520 So I don't know.

00:58:31.560 So I was just like, I'll carry you the rest of the way.

00:58:34.140 If I have to, it's like, we're only not even a half mile away now.

00:58:37.160 No, no, we'll make it.

00:58:40.740 So we walk the extra half mile and we get there and, uh, we're like walking around and

00:58:47.260 I'm trying to look in, I'm like, it looks like there's crevices around this, what looks

00:58:53.100 like an obviously placed huge rock.

00:58:56.300 And it's a, it's a single rock, right?

00:58:58.500 It's one whole ride.

00:58:59.400 It's not a pile of rocks.

00:59:00.900 It's like one big rock, just kind of almost like leaned up against the entrance.

00:59:07.160 So I get to looking and I start, I go all around and I'm like climbing up because you

00:59:12.700 got to climb up pretty good ways to get around it.

00:59:15.680 Cause I'm trying to go around the edge and see if there's any crevice or any way that

00:59:19.660 I can see what might be in there.

00:59:21.340 If there may be a, a rogue entrance somewhere like a borehole or something, um, that even

00:59:27.100 if I could just throw something down there or whatever, uh, maybe we'd come back and repel

00:59:31.260 through it or something.

00:59:32.340 You know, I'm thinking crazy stuff cause I'm super excited that I even found this.

00:59:37.300 It just looks cool.

00:59:38.520 Like some, did you see?

00:59:40.120 So if we look again at some of those formations, you see a lot of the rocks are flat.

00:59:43.800 Did you notice that?

00:59:45.180 Um, on the top of them or just like the, just big flat surfaces in general, they have flat

00:59:49.820 surfaces on them.

00:59:51.320 Well, imagine one of those rocks just leaned up against something.

00:59:54.760 That's what this looks like, but it's like the giant, the biggest table, like rock.

01:00:00.420 That's literally like 12 feet thick leaned up against this side.

01:00:05.660 What looks like just looking at it again.

01:00:07.080 It's just as it's such a bizarre looking place.

01:00:09.740 Uh, yeah.

01:00:10.320 See, look at that.

01:00:11.240 See, let's see those rocks like that.

01:00:12.980 Well, that one in the, yeah.

01:00:14.940 See how they're flat.

01:00:15.880 There's one of those just leaning in front of this entrance.

01:00:19.560 Kind of reminds you of that, uh, like the stone that is in front of Jesus's tomb.

01:00:24.060 They're all like gigantic skipping stones.

01:00:26.300 One of these looks like a Sphinx.

01:00:27.560 Did you see the one that looks like there's a bunch of them that look like a Sphinx?

01:00:30.400 Oh, look at that one right there.

01:00:31.540 Oh, that's weird.

01:00:33.460 Yeah.

01:00:33.600 I know where that missing its nose again.

01:00:35.420 They all seem to be missing their nose, huh?

01:00:38.120 Yeah.

01:00:38.500 Who does that?

01:00:39.340 Who does, who does that?

01:00:40.760 What kind of people do that?

01:00:42.420 That's interesting.

01:00:44.540 Yeah.

01:00:44.900 And then they have these entire staircases just carved right out of the mountain like that.

01:00:50.040 Yeah.

01:00:50.480 And this is all Illinois.

01:00:51.900 Like you, you know, it's just like things like this you wouldn't expect to.

01:00:55.460 We've got a really weird thing in America where they've kind of convinced you that all

01:01:00.120 of, um, all of the things have been discovered.

01:01:02.760 All this stuff is new.

01:01:03.440 Well, it's like, yeah, all this stuff is new.

01:01:05.400 Everything that's been discovered, you know, or there is to discover has been discovered.

01:01:09.280 And, uh, yeah, I don't know.

01:01:11.120 Also, by the way, this is Shawnee National Forest, right?

01:01:14.860 Which is, um, significant.

01:01:17.360 It's worth mentioning because if you take into account, um, all of the strangeness with

01:01:22.100 the National Forest.

01:01:23.020 And I've been talking about it recently where they're flying the flag upside down in some

01:01:27.700 of the National Forest.

01:01:28.520 And that is conventionally explained as, uh, unsafe working conditions.

01:01:33.200 And they are understaffed, which is like, is it, is it really that much of a panic?

01:01:38.160 Right.

01:01:38.800 Cause, cause flying the flag upside down is a, is a, is a sign of distress and imminent

01:01:44.880 danger sort of a situation.

01:01:46.580 Like they need help immediately.

01:01:48.820 And it's my understanding that these workers have been prosecuted to, to whatever degree,

01:01:53.720 uh, for doing that.

01:01:55.440 But, um, it's just a strange, uh, a strange thing that's happening.

01:02:00.320 And then you, you, you look into like kind of David Politi's missing 411 and almost unanimously,

01:02:06.420 this is taking place in national forests, um, uh, national parks.

01:02:11.600 And the same thing with the cryptid sightings, uh, uh, really, really dense amount of cryptid

01:02:17.380 sightings when it comes to national forests.

01:02:19.120 So people have their speculations as to what the big conspiracy is, what, what the big to

01:02:24.920 do is with, with national forests.

01:02:27.360 Um, are there portals out there?

01:02:29.480 Are they, are they working?

01:02:30.600 Cause whenever you have these cryptid sightings and things like that, it takes place primarily

01:02:34.400 to locations, national parks, national forests, uh, or military bases.

01:02:39.040 And so, um, given your story and the presence of seemingly military personnel in a national

01:02:46.820 forest, you know, well, there's, there's some of the boxes getting checked.

01:02:50.260 Right.

01:02:50.820 Right.

01:02:51.260 So we're poking around this entrance, trying to figure out a way in.

01:02:54.280 And I'm trying to kind of catalog where we are and make a map while I'm there and catalog

01:03:01.800 these openings that I'm seeing, and I'm feeling cold air come up from them.

01:03:05.200 I mean, a lot of cold air.

01:03:06.460 I mean, it is surprising amount, almost like they were running.

01:03:10.140 What would happen if you were running systems in a cave system?

01:03:15.900 Cause you know, underground systems need to have the air pumped in from above, right?

01:03:20.100 To increase the air pressure underneath to, because sometimes you'll get stagnation.

01:03:26.020 You'll get different types of natural occurring fumes, everything from radon gas, uh, again,

01:03:32.180 back to the uranium and or gold mining situation.

01:03:36.640 Right.

01:03:37.480 Right.

01:03:37.720 You'll get, you'll get things like radon gas in there.

01:03:39.720 You'll get, uh, buildups of carbon dioxide, um, like basically pools of carbon dioxide in

01:03:45.120 there.

01:03:45.340 So you're running these evacuators that are pumping air from the surface down into the

01:03:49.960 substructure and it you'll, then you'll have at any kind of opening, you'll have air blowing

01:03:56.780 out of it.

01:03:57.240 Like that happens here at Sandia.

01:03:59.060 So Sandia national labs has some underground facilities.

01:04:02.960 And if you look on, uh, Google maps, you'll, you can see where they have the air handlers

01:04:09.400 that are pumping the fresh air down into the underground, uh, substructure.

01:04:13.420 So, so then I get to thinking, Hey, I wonder if this is pumping air.

01:04:19.180 This air, this is because air is being pumped down into there intentionally.

01:04:23.800 Um, so I'm poking around through there and right when I get to this one area, I see this

01:04:28.460 one area that I'm like, Oh, that might be big enough to drop in through it.

01:04:31.940 Cause I'm up, I'm up on top the side.

01:04:33.740 I couldn't really find anything, um, because a lot of the sediment had moved off to the side

01:04:39.360 from just normal action rain in that it had kind of piled up right around that, the edge

01:04:45.620 of where the rock and the mouth meet, there's rocks piling up from just from natural erosion.

01:04:54.840 So I was like, Oh, it looks like there's something there.

01:04:58.120 And I go to walk over there and it's kind of hard to get to because there's like another

01:05:04.240 rock and there's some rough terrain to get over there.

01:05:07.120 And my wife is like, let's go, you know, I'm tired of being here.

01:05:11.040 This is bullshit.

01:05:11.740 My headache's getting really bad.

01:05:13.260 And it's funny too, because right when I identified that, I literally looked at it and she says,

01:05:18.920 let's go.

01:05:20.280 And I was like, Oh really?

01:05:24.940 I'm like, that's almost like to me, knowing her, as long as I have at that point, I was

01:05:29.140 like, that's almost like an indicator that I'm onto something.

01:05:31.580 Like, yeah, yeah, because if she says no, or if she reacts, you know, in some kind of

01:05:37.940 bombastic way, typically it means that something is about to happen.

01:05:42.260 Okay.

01:05:43.360 So she's kind of like my canary in a coal mine spiritually when it comes to that sort of thing.

01:05:47.580 So I go, okay, that's probably it.

01:05:49.460 But I was like, okay, I'm not going to go over there.

01:05:51.460 So we get, I get down from there because she didn't want to come up any further with me.

01:05:55.880 So she went back down.

01:05:56.780 So I come back down the way I came and get back down and we're literally getting all

01:06:04.300 our stuff ready, putting our backpacks on and we turn around and those guys are there.

01:06:09.440 And it's weird because I did not.

01:06:11.280 So you can hear people walk because there's, you know, there's some leaves that are starting

01:06:14.720 to fall and there's some foliage and brush, right.

01:06:18.860 That you would have to walk through and you could hear us walk.

01:06:23.580 We could hear ourselves walk to it and we can hear the wind, a little bit of wind rustling

01:06:27.420 and that, but these guys are right on us.

01:06:31.260 Like we literally are facing, we're facing the entrance, getting our stuff on, right.

01:06:37.300 Cause we laid it up against the entrance.

01:06:39.280 We turn around and they're there already.

01:06:43.860 And I get accused of that too, right?

01:06:46.620 They, people, you know, people accuse me of floating, not walking because I generally have

01:06:52.260 a pretty easy step, um, even though I'm like two 20.

01:06:56.400 So, you know, and I startle people, these people, there's no way with the amount of gear

01:07:02.460 that they had on that they could have got there without us hearing some of the gear rattle.

01:07:07.020 I mean, they had backpacks, the whole thing without hearing something, you know, they had

01:07:11.460 combat boots on the whole thing.

01:07:12.960 They were not wearing gear that was quiet.

01:07:16.040 Okay.

01:07:17.100 And I'm going, huh.

01:07:20.000 And they're like, you cannot be here.

01:07:22.620 Do you understand me?

01:07:24.300 And they seemed the urgency in the guy's voice was not like you need to leave, you know, or

01:07:34.920 that, you know, we're mad that, that you're here.

01:07:37.780 It's like, you're in danger.

01:07:40.440 And so are we.

01:07:41.540 So let's get out of here.

01:07:43.140 It was that kind of thing.

01:07:44.260 Like somebody, almost like when you're telling, when you're pulling somebody away from a fire

01:07:48.880 or something, right.

01:07:50.780 It was more of that tone than it was like, you did something wrong.

01:07:56.200 It was, we have to get you out of here now.

01:07:59.820 Like they were stating too, because you were hiked out there a bit, right?

01:08:04.480 I mean, like, I know you said your wife had a headache and so it's not like you're going

01:08:08.620 like tremendously far, but you're not like easily accessible from the road.

01:08:12.960 Like you got to hoof it a bit to get to where you are.

01:08:16.080 At least from what I remember, it was at least about from the time it took us to walk at that

01:08:24.740 pace, it was probably about six or seven miles out from the visitor's area, from the parking

01:08:31.980 lot out there.

01:08:33.380 Now they were, they were probably already pissed.

01:08:35.940 It's actually relatively close though, to people.

01:08:39.320 It's just not too far, but it's dense.

01:08:41.620 It was getting dense out there.

01:08:42.920 So like we're in the woods.

01:08:44.460 We're not on a regular trail.

01:08:45.840 We're taking deer trails.

01:08:48.060 We're not on the trails that they designated.

01:08:52.660 Something that M Lauren brought up in the chat earlier too.

01:08:56.480 She said that there is a lot of serial killers when it comes to National Forest.

01:09:04.980 Serial killers are a really weird thing because I get more and more comfortable with the idea

01:09:10.180 that they're not real and that they are this sort of blanket excuse that they can use for

01:09:16.640 weird mutilations, weird mutilations, people going missing in droves.

01:09:20.760 If you could just attribute all these missing people and all these murders to just one person,

01:09:24.960 well, then that makes cleanup pretty easy because number one, you just go, oh, it was the,

01:09:31.100 you know, the, the backdoor killer.

01:09:33.300 I don't know why it's a smiley face killer.

01:09:36.740 And then once you're done with your work, if you can just pin it all on one dude,

01:09:41.700 you know, and then everything is wrapped up and done, you know, or, or you don't even

01:09:47.260 pin it on him.

01:09:48.960 You just go, who knows?

01:09:49.780 He's still at large.

01:09:50.840 He's still, who was the Zodiac killer?

01:09:52.640 We don't know who we, you know what I mean?

01:09:54.160 Like that kind of a deal, which just seems like a really convenient and fantastic scapegoat.

01:09:59.800 Uh, so what, where do you think these guys came from?

01:10:03.160 You don't think that they walk really walked up on you.

01:10:05.640 You said that they're wearing like all black fatigues, combat boots, uh, like hiking gear.

01:10:11.540 So they're in these, they're in these mountains.

01:10:13.680 So they're in this forest doing something you think.

01:10:17.520 And they have weapons.

01:10:18.540 They, they had, they had ARs and they were decked out.

01:10:21.480 I mean, helmets and everything.

01:10:23.920 I w I was like, there's no way I didn't hear you.

01:10:27.360 There's just no way.

01:10:28.360 And it's, it's funny too, because I mean, and that's the thing that startled me was

01:10:34.480 like, how did they get there without us hearing them?

01:10:37.640 And like, it's, it was very disconcerting the fact that anyone was able to get the jump

01:10:43.480 on us.

01:10:43.860 Cause I thought, and then, you know, the serial killer vibe did come up.

01:10:46.880 I thought, God, how did we miss this?

01:10:49.500 Anybody could have walked up on us like this.

01:10:53.120 This was frightening.

01:10:54.620 Somebody could have followed us out there and we could have been disappeared.

01:10:56.960 You know, this is a good question.

01:10:59.900 Jingle high Jingleheimer Schmidt says black labs.

01:11:03.540 Do you think they have secret entrances?

01:11:05.140 They popped out of, or are they ethereal?

01:11:08.320 I would say, you know, secret entrances more likely.

01:11:11.600 What do you think, Rob?

01:11:12.580 Yeah, that's, that's where I'm at with it.

01:11:15.120 I think it's probably secret exits entrances.

01:11:19.300 Um, that's not too uncommon.

01:11:22.760 Uh, so I don't know if I want to give his name, but there is, there is a very strange fellow

01:11:29.460 in Arizona who had invented a unit that it was a robot.

01:11:36.680 And what this robot does is it actually welds these giant plastic sewage pipes, big, giant

01:11:42.860 plastic drainage pipes that are like up to like 30, 40 feet, 50 feet in diameter, because

01:11:50.400 you can't, you can't actually like move a pipe like that.

01:11:53.760 What they do is they bring it in sections and then they have this like crawler robot that

01:11:58.700 then heats the sections together.

01:12:01.700 And he has, he has told me he he's been all around the country because he patented that

01:12:08.420 particular device.

01:12:10.180 Okay.

01:12:10.720 You know, he owned the company and then sold it off later.

01:12:13.540 Um, and now he's just an eccentric weirdo out in the desert who shoots stuff all day,

01:12:17.400 which is fine.

01:12:18.100 Nice.

01:12:18.680 Uh, I mean, retirement goals, it sounds like a nice life.

01:12:23.340 Right, right.

01:12:24.440 I'm working towards it.

01:12:25.520 I'm not there yet.

01:12:26.140 So anyways, and he had said that he had done work back in the eighties when he first patented

01:12:33.540 this device that he had done a demonstration out in Southern Illinois.

01:12:38.260 And I, and he did, he said this unsolicited, we were just talking, he was talking, he was

01:12:42.220 talking, and in fact, he was the guy who introduced me to, um, uh, Phil Schneider, you know, and,

01:12:49.560 uh, he was talking about it cause he, he listened to our bell and then he got me into our bell

01:12:54.300 again, because I had been into it for a little while in like the late nineties, like 98, 99,

01:12:59.860 actually after this incident occurred and, uh, got talking to him about it.

01:13:05.100 And he had been all around the world putting these huge drain pipes in.

01:13:10.980 And he showed me the documentation that he had for just one site at one point.

01:13:16.100 And it was literally like four inches thick.

01:13:19.980 He's like, I had to sign every page here before I could go on the site and demonstrate this robot.

01:13:27.840 Did he talk about what, what the nature of the things he was signing were?

01:13:31.400 It was just all disclosures, multiple companies.

01:13:36.080 This was another interesting thing.

01:13:37.520 So when he would be in these underground facilities, it, this paperwork wasn't for one company.

01:13:44.180 So one site, he would have to sign 15, 20 documents for just one company.

01:13:50.920 And there would be 10 companies involved in the operation, everything from Halliburton to General Dynamics to, uh, SAIC to Northrop Grumman to, um, uh, EG&G, which I don't know if they're even around anymore.

01:14:08.860 EG&G, um, uh, arrow, arrow jet, uh, you know, all the, and I'm going through it, just looking at these disclosure agreements, just going,

01:14:19.100 what the hell, you know, and the number of players that are involved in these at any given time from a corporate level is just this giant, it's just giant web of different defense contractors, you know, who are all trying to, and they're all in a big way, trying to CYA.

01:14:41.780 Right.

01:14:42.540 In some method.

01:14:44.540 Now, why is that so important?

01:14:46.600 It's just a damn hole in the ground.

01:14:47.900 Or is it right?

01:14:51.240 So when you look at all the paperwork that, uh, he had, uh, you start asking, you start asking questions like, is this really, why is this necessary?

01:15:01.240 Okay.

01:15:01.480 I get that you guys say it's necessary, but why, why is all this secrecy and all of these disclosures necessary?

01:15:08.180 And what is under there that you might see that would compel them to have so much signed disclosure agreements?

01:15:17.900 Yeah, it's not a, uh, an easy task, uh, writing up all that shit, especially back in the day, you know, AI'll draft it for you rather quickly now, but, uh, to pay a lawyer to draft up all those, you know, NDAs and everything, a huge, huge pain in the ass.

01:15:31.860 Shout out to Z-Man in the chat, uh, is a joke, but you know, it's, it's relevant.

01:15:36.620 He goes, did any of the agreements keep him from, uh, using the name Jesus?

01:15:40.720 And there is this famous video I think Z-Man is referencing where an individual who, uh, delivers to, um, well, that's, that's one of them.

01:15:49.240 But, but this guy that delivers to deep underground military bases, just like regular supplies.

01:15:53.800 Is that Raven rock or something like that?

01:15:55.220 I'm not sure.

01:15:55.720 To be honest.

01:15:56.480 Uh, I, I know he was like, not he, whatever he, his load was, I think he was even privy to his load and it was like just run of the mill crap.

01:16:06.280 Yeah.

01:16:06.480 Yeah.

01:16:06.700 Shit like that.

01:16:07.100 They still need soda.

01:16:07.860 The giants and underground labs, but they were, they told him that he couldn't say Jesus.

01:16:12.160 Uh, that was one of the things that he had to agree to down there.

01:16:14.940 And then there's other things that he thought he saw.

01:16:17.660 Um, he thought he saw a giant, you know, he saw a man that was impossibly tall.

01:16:21.440 It didn't make sense to him, uh, that he saw this, this character walking down a corridor, but he did say, this is just, you know, just a truck driver.

01:16:28.900 Um, he's just like, yeah, I don't know.

01:16:30.060 They said I couldn't say Jesus, uh, in, in this place, which I thought was strange, but whatever you want.

01:16:35.880 Well, it's interesting that you bring that up.

01:16:37.220 Have you guys looked into the SCP Chronicles?

01:16:40.960 No.

01:16:41.320 So, um, SCP is, uh, basically, it's kind of like a copy pasta or, or creepy pasta type thing, right?

01:16:52.960 Where these people write up these stories and these stories are about different entities and cryptids that have been found.

01:17:02.920 Now there are cryptids in there that you, you can't pray around.

01:17:08.060 That's actually a, uh, not a, not an uncommon thread.

01:17:13.860 Wait, what is this?

01:17:14.680 Uh, SCP, I see Z-Man knows what it is and I trust his judgment very much.

01:17:18.400 He says, SCP, baby, let's go.

01:17:20.000 So we've touched on something interesting.

01:17:21.500 I've never, I've never heard of it.

01:17:22.660 So this is a type of creepy pasta.

01:17:24.300 And what are they giving you lore for each of these cryptids?

01:17:30.000 Yes.

01:17:30.400 And, and some of them you're, you can't pray around.

01:17:34.000 Is this, do you think that means you can't do it or you, if you wanted to stick around, you can't do it?

01:17:39.880 Well, you can, some of these entities get triggered or they, their bonds are released and they are let go because of you praying or you saying Jesus or they lose their shit or, you know, starts or it, or it, um, you know, some, some woman across on the other side of the world, uh, gives birth to the antichrist.

01:18:00.140 Every time you say Jesus or something like that, you know, they have a lot of that type of lore, but it's done so well.

01:18:08.600 And it, it makes you wonder if that is in our collective consciousness and that SCP is just the outlet that we already know about these entities, right?

01:18:19.140 Yeah.

01:18:19.280 Well, uh, that's that idea of, of, you know, this idea amuse, right?

01:18:24.160 You're channeling something.

01:18:25.380 You don't realize it.

01:18:26.560 Your idea is inspired one way or another.

01:18:28.800 And I do think it's funny.

01:18:30.420 Imagine the labor that it takes to summon some sort of demon into this realm and you go, okay, we got him here.

01:18:37.740 Let's study him.

01:18:38.540 Let's harness his, you know, energy hanging out.

01:18:41.840 He's cool.

01:18:42.460 And then all of a sudden somebody is like, Jesus.

01:18:43.960 And he's like, Oh, he just disappears.

01:18:46.660 And you're like, dude, that took me millions of dollars of research.

01:18:51.160 I had to jerk off L. Ron Hubbard in the deserts of New Mexico to get that to happen.

01:18:55.360 And you just made this thing go away.

01:18:57.420 The archive is right up the street.

01:18:59.180 The L. Ron Hubbard underground archive is not too far from here, man.

01:19:03.220 Maybe.

01:19:03.520 What are you talking about?

01:19:04.240 There's an L. Ron Hubbard underground archive.

01:19:07.160 Yes.

01:19:07.560 Oh, there is.

01:19:09.140 So SCPs, there are, it looks like there's like thousands of them.

01:19:12.380 Oh, really?

01:19:13.480 And these are things that people are writing and these are filed away under creepypastas?

01:19:18.860 Well, basically, I mean, yeah.

01:19:21.040 So what they are.

01:19:22.800 Oh, I've seen that one.

01:19:23.740 The stairwell right there.

01:19:25.040 Yes.

01:19:25.340 An un, what does it say?

01:19:27.540 A unit staircase with something waiting just beyond your flashlight's reach.

01:19:33.000 Oh, an unlit.

01:19:34.380 Man, look at how great my eyes are that I could read that from here.

01:19:36.820 You were saying before that my eyes are bad.

01:19:38.340 And I said, 2020, you shut your mouth.

01:19:40.180 And I've just proved it to you.

01:19:42.200 I have heard that the idea too of a lone staircase in the middle of like the wilderness.

01:19:47.560 You know, I don't know what to make of that.

01:19:49.440 I've actually seen that.

01:19:51.180 I don't know if it's left over from a building or what, but I've seen that.

01:19:54.540 Yeah.

01:19:54.640 Yeah.

01:19:54.840 You're never supposed to climb to the top of that.

01:19:56.640 Don't climb it.

01:19:56.920 Yeah.

01:19:57.080 Don't climb it.

01:19:57.620 I really, but here, I was compelled to do that though.

01:20:00.080 Of course.

01:20:01.200 It's just human nature, right?

01:20:03.080 I'd climb it.

01:20:03.640 Oh, there's a damn staircase here.

01:20:05.300 What the hell is that?

01:20:06.180 You want to go over there, right?

01:20:07.640 Yeah.

01:20:08.420 Like, why is that the only, but oftentimes, so that's not completely, you know, crazy because

01:20:14.840 it was, in this case, it was a stone.

01:20:17.780 So if you think, well, the place would have rotted out if it was like a, like a cabin and

01:20:23.840 then what would be left, right?

01:20:24.960 Because a lot of times in those wet and marshy areas, they would put the houses on a stilt,

01:20:29.520 right?

01:20:30.600 So if the structure was collapsed or reclaimed, well, you're just going to leave the stone

01:20:36.580 staircase there.

01:20:37.300 So, you know, it's not quite the, uh, ooh, ah, you know, weird woo-woo factor that you

01:20:44.480 think it is.

01:20:44.660 I still like it though.

01:20:45.700 It is interesting, you know?

01:20:47.280 What do you think is going, what is in this L. Ron Hubbard's archive?

01:20:52.280 Uh, why would you keep, um, that, what do you think is in there?

01:20:57.040 I think it's all his writings and artifacts and things like that.

01:21:01.660 Um, I think there's also a seed vault in there.

01:21:04.980 Okay.

01:21:05.500 That's interesting.

01:21:06.180 Big Mormon vibes.

01:21:07.220 I just ask because it's like, uh, Sea Org is operating out here in, um, in like Tampa or

01:21:16.080 something like that.

01:21:16.880 Really?

01:21:17.340 Yeah.

01:21:17.660 Uh, or, or Clearwater.

01:21:19.560 Huh.

01:21:19.980 Clearwater is, is where the headquarters of Scientology is.

01:21:24.600 Clearwater, beautiful place that I understand.

01:21:26.440 Um, why on earth would you keep that so separate?

01:21:31.560 Why, why across the country would you keep the, the workings of the late, the late great,

01:21:36.680 uh, L. Ron Hubbard?

01:21:38.800 Um, it's, it's, it's just interesting to me.

01:21:41.480 It feels like you, you know, you'd imagine they would want that nearby so that Tom Cruise

01:21:45.660 can touch it.

01:21:46.240 Well, I mean, Tom Cruise has no problem touching it.

01:21:48.300 He's got jets, but you know what I mean?

01:21:49.620 It just seems strange to keep it so separate.

01:21:51.940 Well, you do know Travolta used to, they say that he used to fly into the airstrip here over

01:21:56.200 at Epstein ranch, right?

01:21:57.940 Ah, Epstein ranch, Epstein, or I had to basically lengthen the runway.

01:22:03.920 And, uh, right before all that stuff went down, do you remember when a few years ago, when

01:22:08.460 they had the FCC did the testing on the emergency broadcast system?

01:22:15.560 Yeah.

01:22:16.040 That was like a really big speculative moment.

01:22:18.700 This idea that, um, well, the idea within the QAnon community was that, uh, Trump was

01:22:23.920 making sure that it was working because he was going to need to use that shit to tell

01:22:29.440 us that wasn't that during Biden's administration though.

01:22:32.100 Yes.

01:22:32.500 Um, yeah, yeah.

01:22:34.480 Well, I mean, that's like Trump part two.

01:22:36.300 Exactly.

01:22:36.860 Trump, whatever it is.

01:22:37.780 Yeah.

01:22:38.060 Yeah.

01:22:38.280 Yeah.

01:22:38.660 So yeah.

01:22:39.720 Here's the interesting thing.

01:22:40.960 And I think monkey works.

01:22:42.140 That's the guy who, uh, follows all the planes and the activity.

01:22:46.340 Oh yeah.

01:22:46.960 Yeah.

01:22:47.180 Uh, in an effort to divine what might be going on with, uh, global issues when that,

01:22:54.340 that day, when that happened, there was about 10 or 15 different Lear jets, G sixes, G fives,

01:23:01.880 all that shit.

01:23:03.080 Uh, I was watching them take off from my boss's place, which isn't too far away from Epstein

01:23:08.300 ranch.

01:23:09.340 It was literally nonstop all day.

01:23:11.640 Yeah.

01:23:13.540 And that was kind of what the speculation was with the emergency alert system was that

01:23:18.780 they were basically going to be using it to tell you, Hey, um, these kids that we're

01:23:26.240 freeing them.

01:23:27.180 Well, yeah.

01:23:28.080 I mean, you know, that whole Colgan was supposed to help with that.

01:23:30.480 And now he's dead.

01:23:31.200 Well, thank God we still have Mel Gibson who is alive and well.

01:23:35.480 And I didn't even know he was that buff these days.

01:23:38.040 So yeah.

01:23:38.680 How about it?

01:23:39.440 Hey, is he dead though?

01:23:40.820 Well, see, here's the thing I've got, I've got people telling me that, that work in

01:23:46.280 Galisteo and one guy used to work.

01:23:48.780 I got this from a person who used to work for Epstein on the ranch.

01:23:52.560 And he told me under no uncertain terms that he met Epstein and he works as a bartender

01:23:58.400 over in Madrid.

01:23:59.400 I think he, I think he owns the bar, but I wasn't, it wasn't clear and I didn't want

01:24:03.060 to push it.

01:24:03.900 I just want to take his story and go because I don't want to come up missing yet.

01:24:07.220 Right, right, right.

01:24:08.060 Don't give me too much information.

01:24:09.320 Just give me enough because I don't know.

01:24:11.400 Yeah.

01:24:12.360 And he said that he saw him.

01:24:14.160 He's got a beard and a mustache and he let himself get fat.

01:24:17.080 You can't even tell who he is.

01:24:19.080 But he said he knew.

01:24:19.580 He's crushing.

01:24:20.640 He knew right from the, yeah.

01:24:22.080 He basically, he basically went full Al Gore.

01:24:25.140 And.

01:24:25.940 Well, that was the speculation too.

01:24:27.740 It was right after, you know, everybody got caught up in the whirlwind of Epstein didn't

01:24:32.120 kill himself.

01:24:32.560 So you have two schools of thought that said they created a false binary.

01:24:36.400 The binary was he either killed himself or somebody murdered him and made it look like

01:24:41.660 a suicide.

01:24:42.100 But there was a third option, which was he's not even dead, dummy.

01:24:45.540 And there were some images that came out from Epstein Island.

01:24:48.600 Him linked up against a golf cart next to a maintenance worker looking up at the drone

01:24:54.600 footage that, that seemingly caught him.

01:24:56.680 Um, that whole thing was, was very strange.

01:24:59.380 And then of course the autopsy footy, not footage, but there's a picture that they take

01:25:05.460 of like the body in the morgue and, and there's a very distinctive ear pattern, you know, that's

01:25:11.180 almost like a fingerprint, you know, we all, we all have.

01:25:14.040 And, uh, this dude's ear did not match Epstein's ear.

01:25:17.860 All the curves and nooks and crannies were different, uh, pretty discernibly different.

01:25:22.360 So, uh, you know, if, if you, if it came up today and said Epstein's not dead at all,

01:25:27.520 I would say what a hilarious thing they did.

01:25:30.180 They pop, they popularized a meme that made people imagine there was only two options here.

01:25:39.220 And there was a third, the entire time it was that he was never dead.

01:25:42.500 Well, they always like that dichotomy, right?

01:25:44.540 They always want that.

01:25:46.960 They like the duality, but the third path they do not like when you start finding the

01:25:51.220 third path, that's usually when the system very much turns against you and, and whatever

01:25:57.600 you're doing, that's when things start to kind of go wrong.

01:25:59.740 You just, you stop fitting in, you stop fitting into the square or the round hole, right?

01:26:04.500 You just go right down the middle and they don't like that.

01:26:07.780 This guy was very open about it though.

01:26:09.480 That's the thing that blew me away.

01:26:10.620 He was just like, just how nonchalant he was about it was almost more disturbing and it

01:26:18.900 wasn't really disturbing, but was almost more, had more of an effect on me than the actual

01:26:23.620 information.

01:26:25.120 And that's from two people.

01:26:26.140 Now, one other guy I know is a maintenance guy who works on the generators or well, they're

01:26:31.940 not, well, yeah, generally they have generators there and they also have the, they still have

01:26:36.600 the pumping houses that have a giant diesel, uh, water pumps that are running 24, seven, uh,

01:26:46.580 the water, the, the whole water thing kind of intrigues me too, but I've never quite

01:26:50.880 gotten to the bottom of that, uh, no pun intended, but there is a thought, remember

01:26:55.720 you guys were talking about the aquifers?

01:26:58.680 Yeah.

01:26:59.660 So you guys did some shows on the aquifers.

01:27:02.100 So I'm wondering, so supposedly there is a Northern most cave, uh, complex underneath that

01:27:09.820 area that goes from all the way from Carlsbad, which they shut down for what reasons?

01:27:14.400 No one still understands completely.

01:27:16.360 They shut down Carlsbad caverns for what, two years, three years and said, Oh, it was

01:27:20.160 glue.

01:27:21.320 It was bad glue on a, on a staircase.

01:27:25.320 Well, when did they do that?

01:27:29.180 Uh, 2014, I think it was.

01:27:32.100 Are you getting into this idea that they're using the aquifers for travel?

01:27:35.620 I'm getting into the idea that Clint was from Carlsbad.

01:27:38.220 The fuck is going on in the caverns?

01:27:40.140 He got here via the, the aquifers.

01:27:43.360 Oh, really?

01:27:44.260 He's got his little submarine.

01:27:45.820 Did he drive his, um, Terramar submarine all the way to.

01:27:49.800 No, he drove his primary colored Lamborghini.

01:27:51.860 Yeah.

01:27:52.300 Which has, it's a, it's a land to watercraft.

01:27:55.260 They have, um, he's got a lot of money, a lot of business acumen got them that.

01:27:59.720 So, so they have, uh, there's this strange phenomenon where like a lot of elites have their

01:28:06.660 submarining license.

01:28:07.920 That's right.

01:28:08.720 Which is strange.

01:28:10.380 It doesn't make sense.

01:28:11.200 I could see a plane, but why exactly do you need a submarine license?

01:28:16.440 Come on.

01:28:17.240 Huh?

01:28:17.940 Well, I mean, now you've got questions, right?

01:28:20.140 If you were using, uh, your submarine, your privately owned submersible, uh, to travel

01:28:25.920 via, uh, the aquifers, uh, to Kitfuck Island and then back to your, your estate.

01:28:34.960 This story also, it reminds me of like one of the first episodes we did, maybe episode

01:28:39.600 five or something like that.

01:28:40.520 We had on Justin from cryptos of the corn.

01:28:42.480 Oh yeah.

01:28:42.860 Yeah.

01:28:43.260 Yeah.

01:28:43.520 I love that episode.

01:28:44.460 It was great.

01:28:44.660 So he stumbled upon, uh, he was doing like a water survey or like a, a Creek survey or

01:28:50.560 something like that.

01:28:50.960 And he's like deep in the forest, they come to a gate and the gates open.

01:28:54.900 So they go through it and they're supposed to get to this Creek and just study the biology

01:28:59.060 in it.

01:28:59.440 And they get to it and they, they're approached by dudes similar, not exactly dress how you

01:29:04.500 said, but he, he describes like a lot of gear there.

01:29:07.480 They're, they're armed.

01:29:08.260 And he said that they, I think he said that they look like they had like Ghostbusters gear,

01:29:11.900 like backpack, like that kind of thing.

01:29:13.800 And they told him the same thing.

01:29:15.180 Like, you got to get the hell out of here.

01:29:17.760 There's no, you don't have a Ghostbusters backpack.

01:29:19.600 You are ill-equipped.

01:29:20.320 Yeah.

01:29:20.540 They're like, how did you get here?

01:29:22.120 And he's like, well, I'm supposed to, he was supposed to be there.

01:29:25.220 So I guess there's like miscommunication between government entities or government workers.

01:29:29.620 Yeah.

01:29:30.040 Yeah.

01:29:30.440 So he's a, he's like a, not exactly a government worker at this point.

01:29:34.240 I think, you know, he's working for a private company, but contracted by the government to

01:29:37.440 look at these things and do studies and yada, yada.

01:29:39.420 And this is clearly, he said what he noticed was, and it's something that keeps on triggering.

01:29:45.660 It was something that triggered the memory that you brought up was a pipe that I think

01:29:50.260 he said it was like a foot in diameter.

01:29:52.120 He was, he said it's larger than it should have been or larger than the things he's come

01:29:55.500 across in the middle of this forest.

01:29:57.500 So he's like, there's clearly like water being drained in or out from here.

01:30:02.140 And he's like, I don't know what the hell that is.

01:30:03.820 They just step over it and he starts investigating the Creek that he's supposed to look at.

01:30:07.420 And then they're approached by these dudes who he's like, I don't know what, it's just

01:30:13.240 a black site basically that he, he ends up in and they escorted him out.

01:30:18.120 And that's the end of the story.

01:30:19.940 So, you know what we should do?

01:30:21.440 We should do like a, like the area 51 meme thing that they did where it's like, we're

01:30:27.040 going to go to the garden of the gods.

01:30:28.260 We'll bring some chisels, uh, you know, like an air hammer, a bunch of air hammers.

01:30:34.240 We'll have to bring some, uh, some, uh, uh, compression tanks, but, uh, we'll bring air

01:30:38.940 hammers and we will chisel away at the rock.

01:30:41.780 And there's simply too many of us.

01:30:43.800 They can't kill us all.

01:30:45.360 They can't feed us all.

01:30:46.580 They probably can kill us all.

01:30:48.540 Um, you know, but it's, I mean, think about once again, you know what they hate, they

01:30:54.680 hate paperwork.

01:30:56.140 They hate labor.

01:30:57.780 Um, they're not going to want to clean up all those bodies.

01:30:59.760 They're not going to want to have to run all that.

01:31:02.480 So I think they're going to let us in.

01:31:04.320 Well, what do you, so they, they escort you guys out, right?

01:31:07.680 How does this, how does this story end?

01:31:09.180 They just say, you need to follow us.

01:31:12.000 Let's go.

01:31:13.200 And so we start walking with them cause they got guns and I didn't know if they were a

01:31:18.780 cartel or what it was.

01:31:19.920 Like I said, they didn't have any insignias or anything.

01:31:22.620 So we just start walking and I'm like, man, are they walking behind you?

01:31:29.160 We know that, ah, interact.

01:31:31.760 Okay.

01:31:31.920 That's a, it's a good question.

01:31:34.080 Interesting point.

01:31:35.860 This was weird too.

01:31:37.140 They are surrounding us with enough people.

01:31:42.100 There's about 10 of them surrounding both of us with enough people that people, that

01:31:47.480 no one can see.

01:31:48.720 They're literally shoulder to shoulder and we're walking like they're in front of you.

01:31:55.520 They're in, they're creating like a circle, almost like a circle around us.

01:31:59.120 Yeah.

01:31:59.380 That was, that's a good point.

01:32:01.400 Cause I, I wasn't even going to, I hadn't even thought of that yet, but yeah, they were,

01:32:05.340 they were around us looking out like as if something or somebody was coming for us.

01:32:12.240 That would have fucking, that would have freaked me out.

01:32:14.980 Yeah.

01:32:15.480 These dudes.

01:32:16.040 Yeah.

01:32:16.180 Like, cause the, the formation would be, if I'm escorting you out, you're in front.

01:32:21.780 I got my gun.

01:32:22.820 Like we're walking out like a hostage situation.

01:32:24.580 We're being protected.

01:32:26.860 That's crazy.

01:32:28.680 You know, I, I, to think that that place popped up on the radar just because of, well, it's

01:32:35.960 not just, I don't want to reduce it, but because of this phenomenon that's taking place in Southern

01:32:40.240 Indiana, um, this situation just gets stranger and stranger.

01:32:44.840 You know, there, there's something going on and everybody goes, the Appalachias are the

01:32:49.360 oldest mountain range in North America.

01:32:52.560 They're like haunted mountains.

01:32:54.180 There's all this spooky crap that comes out about them all the time.

01:32:56.840 And there was this cave system that runs through there and all these visions and dreams of these

01:33:02.720 entities take place underground.

01:33:04.940 Like every, this, this little story, whatever this is, whatever's going on here, checks all

01:33:12.360 the boxes, national forests, cryptid sightings, uh, military presence, you know, dreams of

01:33:20.440 entities, like deep underground military bases.

01:33:25.860 And, and truthfully, just given the density of, of, you know, and the size of the Appalachian

01:33:31.580 mountains, um, you'd never be able to figure out what the, I mean, you tell stories top

01:33:36.720 where you're like, I, you know, I'm, I'm in New York city working on the subways.

01:33:40.060 One tunnel leads to another.

01:33:41.480 And all of a sudden you're at a subway station you've never seen.

01:33:45.260 That's not on any map that hasn't been used as out of commission for, you know, however

01:33:49.600 long.

01:33:50.360 And you get these other stories of like, I found a deep underground city, some sort of abandoned

01:33:54.900 city underground, like whatever is going on.

01:33:57.320 I can probably get a track walker on here to tell these stories.

01:34:00.480 Like I know these guys and the way that they learn it, there's not really there.

01:34:04.840 I mean, there are maps, but they learn the schematics of the underground from another track

01:34:10.480 walker.

01:34:10.780 Like that's a position that you get and then you, you follow a guy, you help a flag for

01:34:15.460 him and that's how you learn.

01:34:16.760 And they kind of pass it on.

01:34:17.740 And the weird thing about track walking too, is like you can pick the position.

01:34:21.620 So the way it goes is like every, whenever there's a pick, everyone shuffles their jobs.

01:34:27.260 The track walkers generally always get that job.

01:34:30.540 They stay in the job, even though they can be picked out by seniority.

01:34:33.660 Nobody really wants it.

01:34:34.580 That's something that like you get and you stay with.

01:34:37.400 And these guys, that's what they do.

01:34:39.440 So yeah, it's a, it's a weird knowledge that you wouldn't be able to, you wouldn't be able

01:34:44.300 to understand where you're going unless you just do this constantly.

01:34:46.960 And it just seems like there would be obvious reasons to map that out, but they're not doing

01:34:51.040 that.

01:34:51.300 I don't know.

01:34:53.040 I don't, I, yeah, I don't know.

01:34:54.580 It's all handed, it's all handed down knowledge.

01:34:56.880 None of it is recorded officially.

01:34:58.980 Correct.

01:35:00.460 I think maybe, listen, maybe they do have an official map, but I haven't seen an official

01:35:05.820 map of like, and I, but I've been in these places where I'm like, we're off the map dog.

01:35:10.340 And they'll tell you like, yeah, we're somewhere else right now.

01:35:12.820 Oh, that's a good question.

01:35:13.800 Hicktown honey says, when you got out, did you ask any questions to these escorts?

01:35:17.660 No, I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is no, given the severity of it.

01:35:20.940 Did you, did you ask him anything?

01:35:22.520 No, I was, I'm ex-military.

01:35:24.420 I'm there's, you're almost inviting trouble at that point.

01:35:28.780 When you're in a situation like that, if somebody is getting you out of somewhere, you just shut

01:35:32.400 the hell up and you move.

01:35:33.980 Yeah.

01:35:34.340 It's about the best thing that they, they want you to just shut the hell up and move.

01:35:38.020 And that's about the best chance of not having this go real South.

01:35:41.360 And he told us not to talk.

01:35:42.700 He did tell us not to talk.

01:35:44.240 That was another thing we were ordered.

01:35:45.760 Like, don't say anything.

01:35:47.540 Just be quiet.

01:35:48.040 Don't say Jesus.

01:35:49.520 Especially not the name of Jesus.

01:35:50.940 Well, he didn't say that.

01:35:52.020 But now that you guys bring up that Jesus thing, now I'm going, was that what they were

01:35:57.120 really worried about?

01:35:58.060 Is that my, somebody may slip with something that's spiritual or something?

01:36:03.840 And that triggers, you know, some kind of SCP event or something like that.

01:36:08.600 You know, I don't know.

01:36:10.800 But he said, do not talk.

01:36:12.600 Do not make a sound.

01:36:14.220 Go that direction.

01:36:15.280 And I was like, strange.

01:36:18.860 Yeah.

01:36:19.280 Why is being quiet so important to them?

01:36:22.340 Here was the other thing.

01:36:23.360 Why were they so quiet?

01:36:24.500 Because even when I was walking right next to him, for some reason, they just seemed abnormally

01:36:28.560 quiet.

01:36:31.900 Hmm.

01:36:32.420 It could be.

01:36:33.100 I mean, you're in the desert.

01:36:35.360 No, no, this is, this is at Garden of the Gods.

01:36:36.640 Oh, no, that's right.

01:36:37.200 No, you're not in the desert.

01:36:37.980 Yeah.

01:36:38.100 You're in the Garden of the Gods.

01:36:39.100 I don't know, man.

01:36:39.720 It's lush.

01:36:40.820 You know?

01:36:41.620 And you would think you'd hear them like scuffling their feet or something.

01:36:44.620 And I don't even remember hearing that.

01:36:46.420 It was almost like, and this is going to sound weird.

01:36:51.880 I have worked on projects like this, though, with like sound cone type projects for dampening.

01:36:58.340 One of them was for Honeywell for a jet engine, a jet engine that can go full afterburn and

01:37:04.560 have almost no sound.

01:37:07.760 Hopefully, I don't come up missing for saying that, but whatever.

01:37:12.380 I'm sure it's kind of common knowledge now because people have seen that.

01:37:16.100 People have seen the jets flying that have no sound.

01:37:19.020 Have you seen any footage of that?

01:37:20.900 No, I've not seen that.

01:37:21.940 I've heard of them, yeah.

01:37:23.340 Yeah.

01:37:23.660 Well, I haven't heard them because they have no sound, but I haven't heard of.

01:37:26.560 Or very low sound.

01:37:27.720 They're very low sound.

01:37:28.580 It's dampened.

01:37:29.240 They have feedback piezo electrics that are involved in the actual jet engine itself to

01:37:37.300 basically do real-time cancellation of harmonics because a lot of what you hear in a jet is

01:37:44.080 harmonics, right?

01:37:44.940 So, anyway.

01:37:47.180 Interesting.

01:37:48.160 So, the LRADS.

01:37:48.980 Have you heard of the LRADS?

01:37:50.400 Yeah.

01:37:51.000 It's basically sound weapon technology, right?

01:37:53.780 Okay.

01:37:54.080 LRADS can also be used to cancel sound, so you try to talk to somebody right next to you

01:37:58.700 and they won't be able to hear anything you say.

01:38:00.480 And you also can't hear them.

01:38:03.820 That's interesting.

01:38:05.020 Yeah.

01:38:05.180 I have heard technology where it's like you can create, I think you use the terminology

01:38:08.320 cone of silence, like around your body as you move, you can create like this sound dampening

01:38:15.360 effect, which is, you know, a lot of people, you know, they're describing what they see

01:38:20.420 in national forests.

01:38:21.380 And sometimes it's like, I don't know if it was a cryptid, but it was like a cloaked

01:38:24.000 person.

01:38:24.400 It seemed like it was maybe military, but, and it escorted me out of the forest, but

01:38:29.240 it never made contact.

01:38:30.320 But I got the distinct feeling that I should leave.

01:38:32.820 Couldn't hear it, could barely see it.

01:38:35.460 I was aware that it was there, but it was like mostly cloaked.

01:38:37.940 You could see kind of like the predator.

01:38:40.000 Um, and then you just hear about what the, you know, what these privatized, uh, military

01:38:44.640 companies have, you know, and it's like, uh, it gets you to thinking about that, uh, that

01:38:48.580 episode of Merkle with the predator that like, uh, he's like a cloaked being in chameleon

01:38:54.260 shimmer.

01:38:54.740 They call it the chameleon shimmer.

01:38:56.980 Yeah.

01:38:57.460 Yeah.

01:38:57.660 Shimmer is what they all use to describe it.

01:39:00.060 Yeah.

01:39:00.200 Shimmer.

01:39:01.000 Yeah.

01:39:02.080 Yeah.

01:39:02.480 That's real.

01:39:03.180 Um, they are doing that with tanks now.

01:39:05.080 Um, they've already demonstrated it in a few instances, so, and there, they're using

01:39:10.960 radio waves to generate that field because radio waves can be used to bend light.

01:39:17.320 You can do something called, uh, frequency, high frequency lensing, and you can actually

01:39:24.160 bend the radio waves.

01:39:25.580 Matter of fact, you'll see it.

01:39:26.420 If you, if you can see examples of it from like a shockwave where a shockwave will create

01:39:30.840 the shimmer.

01:39:31.280 Like when a plane goes by, it'll, but you'll see that wave in the air, right?

01:39:37.100 Yeah.

01:39:37.500 Yeah.

01:39:37.700 Look wavy.

01:39:38.360 And also too, uh, if you ever see, um, sometimes you can actually see it if you're in the right

01:39:43.340 conditions, uh, you can actually see that waviness from cell phone towers and radars.

01:39:49.260 Oh, wow.

01:39:50.560 Radar, uh, the radar dishes, you can see it emanate from the radar dish.

01:39:54.320 Sometimes you see, you can actually see the cancer coming off the five.

01:39:57.380 Yeah.

01:39:59.580 Putting that around themselves.

01:40:01.420 Yeah.

01:40:01.980 Well, that's interesting.

01:40:02.880 Yeah.

01:40:03.020 I mean, what I wonder, well, they don't give a shit when it comes to the military.

01:40:05.820 Everybody in the military is just a, yeah.

01:40:07.660 Wear this clip and it's just like cooking you.

01:40:09.800 Yeah.

01:40:10.040 It's like you agreed to, to defend your country, but also in the fine print be experimental

01:40:16.060 fodder for, for the country as well, or at least for some, uh, shady aspects of the

01:40:20.920 government.

01:40:21.500 Yeah.

01:40:22.060 I, I don't know what the hell you stumbled upon there.

01:40:24.820 So yeah, they, they escort you out.

01:40:27.040 You guys get out of there.

01:40:28.020 And then you said you were feeling weird after.

01:40:30.820 Yes.

01:40:31.700 But now that, now that we're talking about these different radiation emanating devices

01:40:40.280 that can be used to do things like a cone of silence, et cetera, their backpacks were

01:40:45.420 unusually boxy and heavy, very similar to what he was talking about.

01:40:51.540 As far as like almost Ghostbuster, Ghostbuster esque.

01:40:56.320 Right.

01:40:56.800 And if you've seen now, a lot of the guys in the Ukraine, uh, Russian war are wearing

01:41:01.480 these jammers, these giant, like a radar jammer.

01:41:05.420 And they look like that.

01:41:06.840 Have you noticed that?

01:41:08.120 Hmm.

01:41:08.800 They look like Ghostbusters.

01:41:10.120 Some of them are actually even white.

01:41:11.220 So it even looks like the damn, like it just needs a Ghostbuster logo and you'd be

01:41:15.080 like, same thing.

01:41:16.380 You know what I mean?

01:41:16.920 They put a Nazi logo on it instead.

01:41:19.300 Well, people, people who, um, this actually comes from the Trey Hudson conversation, right?

01:41:24.480 Where it's like, whenever there's areas of high strangeness, there's also traces of some

01:41:28.200 sort of like radiation and people are getting sick around it.

01:41:31.700 You know what I mean?

01:41:32.220 Like they don't feel so hot afterwards.

01:41:34.300 The place we were supposed to go to.

01:41:35.960 We were supposed to go to a place.

01:41:37.420 Yeah.

01:41:37.580 And then it got shut down because space wolf research.

01:41:40.780 Well, it's pretty, it's like adjacent, but yeah, space wolf research is a skinwalker

01:41:45.800 adjacent property.

01:41:46.840 This is a property that butts up against that.

01:41:48.780 And, and, um, we were supposed to go out there.

01:41:51.220 It's called Moon Lake.

01:41:52.320 Uh, we were going to be there middle of August and the event ended up getting canceled because

01:41:58.040 high level dangerous levels of radiation started appearing.

01:42:01.840 It's it, but they knew to check for the radiation because in these places of high strangeness,

01:42:07.140 radiation is always present.

01:42:08.480 Um, there's a lot of speculation.

01:42:10.180 That's what causes all the uneasy feelings, the sickness, the headaches, uh, you know,

01:42:14.340 and then the deaths of cancer, uh, the cancer deaths that come after it.

01:42:19.040 But, um, so they knew they were having this event.

01:42:21.580 They said, okay, we got to, let's go around and sweep the property and check for radiation

01:42:24.720 levels.

01:42:25.080 And unfortunately they found, or maybe fortunately, um, they found high levels of radiation and

01:42:30.600 had to cancel the whole thing.

01:42:31.980 So wherever you, I mean, it's, it's just a game of bingo.

01:42:38.480 Whenever you get into this topic, it's like, you have a bingo sheet, uh, military personnel,

01:42:44.240 deep underground military bases, uh, strange feelings of nausea and, you know, possibly

01:42:49.080 caused by radiation frequency, uh, national forest, you know, cave system, uh, cryptid,

01:42:55.700 et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

01:42:56.780 And guys with book bags, apparently guys with book bags.

01:42:59.760 And so it's studious.

01:43:01.560 Yes.

01:43:02.240 There's, there's this, there's this, uh, uh, bingo sheet that every time we talk about

01:43:07.580 this, uh, it gets filled out a lot and, uh, you know, we've hit, but you also said, uh,

01:43:13.020 I think you mentioned that at like, at the end of this experience, you guys just kinda

01:43:17.060 like forgot about it.

01:43:18.900 Just whatever we were like drained, you know, just really, I mean, yeah, we probably hiked

01:43:25.580 seven, 14 miles altogether in a day, but, um, it was just very draining.

01:43:33.380 It was unusually draining.

01:43:34.440 Cause we've done that long.

01:43:35.500 We've done hikes longer than that.

01:43:37.100 Not had that much of an issue.

01:43:38.680 It was hot that day, but, you know, it wasn't like unusual, but we did feel really like abnormally

01:43:48.560 tired.

01:43:49.060 So it makes me wonder if the packs that they had on were some kind of like active dampeners,

01:43:57.120 sound dampening devices or something, because when you get, maybe when you get too close

01:44:03.320 to that particular entrance or something, uh, they, there's something there they didn't

01:44:07.100 want to disturb.

01:44:08.020 So when they go near it, they have to put these packs on, you know, as a, do you think

01:44:15.220 they were around you?

01:44:16.640 You think they were around you like at the, because as you're approaching this thing, you

01:44:20.840 said you're about a mile away from it.

01:44:22.520 Your wife is feeling sick.

01:44:23.960 You're also kind of feeling weird.

01:44:25.900 Like, were they around you the entire time letting you like, let's see what we would do.

01:44:30.780 They could have been just like, Oh, just observe this dude and see what he's there for.

01:44:34.520 If it's accidental or not, if he starts really poking, yank him out, or maybe even something

01:44:39.360 more subtle than that.

01:44:40.640 They might've been whacking you guys with some sort of frequency.

01:44:43.100 Your wife's getting sick.

01:44:44.020 They're hoping that you're not, that you'll turn back active deterrent.

01:44:48.960 Like they do with the L rads, where you get a screeching in your head.

01:44:51.940 Yeah.

01:44:52.380 Yeah.

01:44:52.620 They could have been hitting you with that.

01:44:54.460 Yeah.

01:44:54.800 Well, it could have been hitting her because it would probably work better on, I mean, if

01:44:59.080 you're going to use an active deterrent women, right?

01:45:01.540 They're very complaining.

01:45:02.600 Women, women and children.

01:45:03.980 Right.

01:45:04.660 I mean, that's as horrible as it sounds.

01:45:07.600 A lot of people don't realize it.

01:45:09.260 Our, there are operations within our military where the doctrine is women and children first,

01:45:15.740 literally.

01:45:15.980 Yeah.

01:45:16.600 Well, I mean, that, that's kind of a bad move strategically.

01:45:20.260 Cause if you hit women with it, they're going to go like, I have a headache and you're just

01:45:23.640 going to go, what else is, you always have a headache.

01:45:25.900 What is, we're going to keep going and exploring this cave system.

01:45:28.740 You have a headache all the time.

01:45:30.320 You're going to have another one tomorrow.

01:45:31.480 They saw this, they saw Rob, they're like, this guy's too retarded to stop.

01:45:34.600 That's exactly what it is.

01:45:35.640 They're like, they, they tried.

01:45:37.160 And he was like, I got to know what's in that cave.

01:45:39.080 Oh, I'm sure they, they already did the dossier.

01:45:41.960 I mean, they're like, this dude is half Nephilim.

01:45:44.380 We need to get him the fuck out of here.

01:45:45.880 Well, I mean, it's interesting that you, you were drawn to it, right?

01:45:49.760 It's like how many people visit garden of the gods and they're, it's just a hiking place

01:45:55.660 to take Instagram photos at, but, but there's a very small percentage of people that are going

01:46:00.520 to go there.

01:46:01.040 I'm like, I heard that there are entrances to underground caverns in this place.

01:46:06.720 I, I got another question.

01:46:08.260 I got it.

01:46:08.600 I guess my, one of my last questions for you, um, if you were to try to find this place

01:46:13.220 again, do you think you'd be able to locate it or is it a kind of a mystery how you got

01:46:18.140 there?

01:46:18.660 I think I've already found it again.

01:46:20.600 Cause when you guys brought it up and I dropped off of Twitter, I went in deep dive the hell

01:46:26.380 out of it and called some of my contacts in Southern Illinois and I started poking again.

01:46:30.980 What did you find Rob?

01:46:32.900 I think I got it.

01:46:33.860 I think I know where it is, so yeah, I've been telling, uh, top lobster over here that,

01:46:40.740 uh, I do think, and, and, and I know it's a fool's errand.

01:46:44.540 I love this.

01:46:45.020 I love how crazy this is.

01:46:46.060 Go ahead.

01:46:46.300 I just want to, I want to see what's in the caves.

01:46:50.080 How about, how about what's in the coffee shop?

01:46:52.860 I went to the coffee shop this morning and then you were very late.

01:46:57.680 You didn't show up until long after you said you were going to show up and I, and I had

01:47:01.320 to ski daddle, um, reverse the coffee shop.

01:47:04.900 What's the baby steps?

01:47:05.580 I understand the coffee shop, Bohemian Grove four, and then the cave systems, which, you

01:47:11.760 know, obviously government funded cave systems will die in there.

01:47:14.700 Yeah.

01:47:15.180 So we have to do Bohemian Grove four first because it's important to give the people what

01:47:19.520 they want, which is the people want.

01:47:21.980 Do you think it's still as highly guarded?

01:47:23.420 Because this is now you're talking 25 years ago, right?

01:47:27.020 Yeah.

01:47:27.540 Um, I don't know.

01:47:30.960 Um, but I have, I did see a picture of it online.

01:47:35.020 Somebody else had been there and I, I swear as best as I can remember that was the entrance

01:47:42.520 and it has not changed at all.

01:47:44.900 Still the big rock there.

01:47:46.660 Yes.

01:47:47.900 Yeah.

01:47:49.120 Hmm.

01:47:49.880 If you dig on the internet, I think it's still up there.

01:47:52.600 I actually found it.

01:47:53.700 Then I hit the person up through email.

01:47:57.000 Um, then I, they didn't answer me.

01:47:59.960 So, but I knew the last name from the email.

01:48:02.160 I was able to track that back.

01:48:04.060 And then I called one of my contacts who still lives in Southern Illinois and was like, Hey,

01:48:08.820 you know this?

01:48:09.700 Cause down there it's like hollers.

01:48:11.400 It's very similar, like West Virginia.

01:48:13.120 So there are plate like enclaves out in that area that are just like a little housing area

01:48:19.100 with a bunch of like out in the middle of nowhere, out in the mountains in that area

01:48:22.460 that are just a bunch of trailers, you know, a bunch of people like have little houses or

01:48:26.760 in trailers out there and they're dead ends, you know?

01:48:30.300 So he knew somebody that knew somebody and, um, it's exciting.

01:48:36.440 I don't, don't quote me on it just yet.

01:48:38.320 Cause things happen in my life, obviously.

01:48:40.240 And I, that's why I kind of dropped off of Twitter because I sometimes think Twitter

01:48:43.740 throws spells.

01:48:45.000 Did you ever?

01:48:46.480 Yeah.

01:48:47.280 Yeah.

01:48:47.500 Okay.

01:48:48.000 Yeah.

01:48:48.280 They spell them.

01:48:49.040 They spell them out in the comment section all the time.

01:48:51.460 It's N-I-G.

01:48:52.940 No, no, no, but I agree.

01:48:55.280 They say that too.

01:48:56.040 It's, it's why I've stepped away from it a little bit step, uh, because at, at a point

01:49:00.900 like I'm casting spells, I'm aware of it.

01:49:03.560 I'm aware of like how I'm crafting a word.

01:49:05.300 I spoke with David about like every single word in a tweet, if it's done correctly, can,

01:49:11.460 I don't know, you could reach 20 people.

01:49:13.240 You could reach 7 million people, 6 million, some would say.

01:49:16.300 So yeah, it's definitely spell crafting, but it goes both ways.

01:49:20.460 Yes.

01:49:20.740 Yeah.

01:49:21.420 Yeah.

01:49:22.020 We're just as susceptible when we open up to it.

01:49:24.500 So, uh, I get a little, I guess, superstitious, but maybe not because they do have something

01:49:29.180 called neuro-linguistic programming.

01:49:31.960 And I really think, you know, that's what AI is going to end up being and doing in the

01:49:38.740 end.

01:49:39.520 Um, but it's not quite there yet because it doesn't understand us well enough yet, or it

01:49:43.580 doesn't have its programming set up well enough.

01:49:46.520 Um, so I dropped off and in that time, um, I just want to see what would happen, right?

01:49:53.460 If there's any experiences or any, if my, if the way I experienced the world would change

01:50:01.320 without it and I needed to kind of reground myself away from it.

01:50:07.020 Um, so in that light, uh, I have a friend of mine who is actually buying a fleet of tour

01:50:15.740 buses.

01:50:17.700 And so we're poking at the idea that maybe we do two things.

01:50:23.800 Um, maybe he's already starting to do this where he's doing EDM events and taking people

01:50:30.000 to EDM events.

01:50:31.220 And these tour buses, some of them can sleep like five, 12, whatever.

01:50:36.740 And, uh, so we're thinking about doing that, but then also in between from each event, going

01:50:44.040 and stopping off at places like garden of the gods, Chaco Canyon, like at significantly

01:50:51.020 paranormal, uh, areas and just doing tours.

01:50:55.380 Right.

01:50:56.340 And the only reason we can afford these buses is because now that all the illegals are gone,

01:51:00.780 the buses don't have nothing to do.

01:51:03.400 Ah, there you go.

01:51:04.680 They're decommissioned.

01:51:05.440 Now we're going to gear them towards, uh, uh, areas of high strangeness.

01:51:09.060 I'm sure you're going to lose a few people.

01:51:10.480 Like, you know, we're looking for different aliens now.

01:51:13.400 I hope not, you know, but it would be, but anyways, it'd be interesting to, you know, I

01:51:17.940 thought, well, let's maybe let's go with this concept.

01:51:20.180 Let's see where it goes.

01:51:21.520 So I think I'm going to invest a little bit of cash in his endeavor.

01:51:25.580 And also too, he needs somebody who can fix diesels and knows how to work on generators

01:51:30.560 and that, and that's me.

01:51:31.760 So I was like, well, you know, I can help you get some of these up and running, I guess

01:51:36.240 at some point.

01:51:36.860 And, or if you have a problem, I've already been advising him on the maintenance, uh, on,

01:51:41.680 on the bus that, on the tour bus that he's bought so far, but it looks like he's going

01:51:45.980 to probably end up having three or four in the next couple of months.

01:51:48.980 So it should be kind of exciting.

01:51:51.540 You know, I, I think, uh, producer Nancy has a great idea.

01:51:54.540 She said, uh, NDS short bus.

01:51:56.740 So I say that we do, we'll buy a short bus and we'll load these retards onto the short

01:52:01.660 bus and we'll go to places like garden of the gods and we'll go send them in first.

01:52:07.040 They go in first.

01:52:08.000 I would like for Scott, uh, be as noisy as possible.

01:52:10.600 Yeah.

01:52:10.820 You guys go ahead, stay ahead of us.

01:52:13.200 Uh, uh, and, and yeah, we'll, we'll explore the cave systems.

01:52:16.960 I don't know.

01:52:17.720 I think something's happening, especially when it comes to all the strange dreams and visions

01:52:21.820 that people are having.

01:52:22.860 I don't know if that this is going to end in some sort of climax.

01:52:26.040 Um, and people do think that there's a program called EDAN where they were once creating these,

01:52:31.520 these chimeric creatures beneath the surface.

01:52:34.300 Uh, you know, the, the food supply chain broke down and eventually due to low resources,

01:52:43.080 they they've now just allowed these entities out of the, which is, it sounds like bullshit

01:52:48.100 to me, honestly.

01:52:49.120 Cause you go like, Hey, uh, I know we've kept you at prisoners here in this deep underground

01:52:54.420 military base, but we don't have anything else to feed you.

01:52:56.440 So I'm going to open up your cage now.

01:52:58.220 Uh, and you could just leave, you know, don't you think you would just shoot them?

01:53:01.900 I don't know, but that's what people think.

01:53:03.960 And, uh, and now these, these creatures have come to the surface and, uh, and, and who

01:53:08.640 knows, maybe that's what these military personnel are trying to, uh, protect us from.

01:53:14.220 And that's why you get so many nowadays, you get so many dog, man sightings, uh, things of

01:53:20.400 that nature, you know?

01:53:21.900 Um, maybe, maybe that's what's happened.

01:53:24.260 Maybe, maybe they have come up to the, to, to, to feed.

01:53:28.380 They've come up to the surface to feed.

01:53:30.120 I don't know.

01:53:30.640 I'm glad they didn't feed on you, Rob.

01:53:32.360 I am.

01:53:32.840 I'm glad they didn't feed on you too.

01:53:34.120 Who else would be making these, these dragsters and shit?

01:53:36.840 That, well, yeah, that too.

01:53:38.000 And, and, uh, alternative weapons.

01:53:39.980 And I'm involved in all kinds.

01:53:41.400 I got probably five or six patents.

01:53:43.400 I'm juggling around right now for different things.

01:53:47.160 So alternative weapons.

01:53:49.480 If you're developing any frequency weapons, uh, don't let us know, but let us know.

01:53:54.340 Don't let us know.

01:53:55.360 I'm sure you're not developing those.

01:53:56.800 Uh, but if you are, you know, I'm not that smart.

01:54:00.100 I'm not that smart.

01:54:01.100 Although I wish I was.

01:54:02.360 We're fans of all kinds of weapons.

01:54:03.900 Shout out to Tooth Hurdy.

01:54:05.200 Oh, Tooth Hurdy, which is, he's actually, uh, the abyss stares back now on Instagram.

01:54:11.660 Uh, can you, I don't know if you could zoom in, but this is one of those little, it's

01:54:14.780 a, I don't think you can call it a single knuckle duster.

01:54:17.040 If you can't, then I apologize.

01:54:18.120 But everybody go find, uh, the abyss looks back on, on Instagram.

01:54:23.300 Very, very cool work.

01:54:24.480 It's a solid piece of brass.

01:54:25.860 Uh, I just like when people make us, uh, weapons and, and, and Rob, if you can, if you, and

01:54:30.680 this is not a weapon, this is a, for legal purposes, a paperweight.

01:54:33.500 Um, but if you, if you are interested in, uh, in helping us figure out how to make our,

01:54:38.380 our Nephilim death squad swords, uh, you know, drop us a line and, and, and let us know

01:54:43.980 where we stand on that after this show.

01:54:45.100 But, uh, we got to bring it in for a landing, Rob, but I do have one last thing to ask you.

01:54:50.440 Oh, yeah.

01:54:50.700 It's a very important question to ask you.

01:54:52.440 Oh, yeah.

01:54:52.920 Um, and, and, and I, I, are you, are you having fun?

01:54:57.960 Yes.

01:54:58.280 It's very exciting where I am right now and being with you guys.

01:55:01.800 That's also very helpful because I've been locked up by myself.

01:55:04.720 I haven't talked to hardly anybody in three weeks.

01:55:08.540 Start getting a little kooky.

01:55:10.280 I start getting like everyone else here in New Mexico, you know?

01:55:13.520 Yeah.

01:55:13.920 Well, you got to get back on Twitter.

01:55:15.240 You have to scream spells at people.

01:55:18.080 No, no.

01:55:18.600 I, I take your experiment and let me know how it goes.

01:55:21.360 Yeah.

01:55:21.480 It's probably better.

01:55:22.220 He'll be, he'll talk to us in like two weeks and be like, guys, actually, I feel a lot healthier

01:55:26.880 now.

01:55:27.220 Did you know that a hundred percent of the people you interact with there are bots?

01:55:30.260 Oh, all of them.

01:55:30.880 Every single one of them.

01:55:31.820 That is a scary part.

01:55:33.040 That is a scary part.

01:55:33.900 And now the bots are so good because AI is so good.

01:55:37.160 Oh yeah.

01:55:37.980 Yeah.

01:55:38.220 It's, it's getting brutal.

01:55:39.160 And then of course you have AI, uh, footage and everything else too, which is getting

01:55:42.460 quite hard to, to defer, uh, that from reality.

01:55:46.420 Um, so what is, what is Cashman call it?

01:55:49.300 Post reality.

01:55:50.160 That's where, that's where we live, baby.

01:55:51.700 Um, Rob, it's been a, it's been a pleasure, brother.

01:55:54.440 Always fun talking to you, man.

01:55:56.120 Good talking to you guys.

01:55:56.860 And I'll hit you a line for that piece and we'll get it rocking.

01:56:00.120 Awesome.

01:56:00.680 Awesome.

01:56:01.080 Awesome.

01:56:01.320 Very cool.

01:56:01.800 All right, guys, another great episode.

01:56:04.500 Um, I think we're going to be off for the next couple of days or.

01:56:10.100 Yeah.

01:56:10.260 Well, because I, me, I will be going to, uh, quite frankly, is Jamboree Soiree.

01:56:18.920 Uh, so if you guys are in New York city, come and see me.

01:56:23.880 It's not the city.

01:56:26.160 He said, oh, obey, submit, comply guys.

01:56:28.960 We'll see you later.

01:56:29.400 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:56:35.920 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:56:39.760 You can persuade us that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.

01:56:46.660 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's in the world.

01:56:53.740 And they have.

01:56:59.400 But they're.

01:56:59.500 They're.

01:57:00.460 They're.

01:57:00.900 They're.

01:57:01.840 They're.

01:57:14.060 They're.

Nephilim Death Squad - September 20, 2025

218： Garden of the Gods： Giants, DUMBs & Hidden Sarcophagi w⧸ BlaqLabs Rob

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