Nephilim Death Squad - February 10, 2026


Arthur Kwon Lee Returns!


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 41 minutes

Words per Minute

197.19705

Word Count

20,046

Sentence Count

1,544

Misogynist Sentences

23

Hate Speech Sentences

99


Summary

On this episode of Nede, Top Lobster is joined by his good friend Arthur Kwan Lee to discuss anti-Semitism and the importance of having a conversation about it on air. Also, Top tells the story of how he went from being a Christian to being an anti-semitic.


Transcript

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00:01:53.660 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim.
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00:02:03.200 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a.
00:02:04.940 The Raven.
00:02:05.380 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
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00:02:33.320 And joining us today is Arthur Kwan Lee.
00:02:36.580 Dude, it's been a minute since you've been on the show.
00:02:39.760 Very excited to have you back.
00:02:41.540 We're going to talk about something that is very important.
00:02:43.740 I think we were talking about it before the show started.
00:02:46.160 And you said it.
00:02:46.900 I was already thinking it.
00:02:48.440 Dude, we got to start this.
00:02:49.600 This conversation needs to be had on air.
00:02:51.480 Before we get into it, though, brother,
00:02:53.140 let's tell everybody what it is that you do
00:02:55.620 and where people can support your work.
00:02:57.860 Thanks for having me on.
00:02:59.060 First of all, gentlemen, my brother's in Christ here.
00:03:02.700 The first thing is I'm an artist.
00:03:04.720 I'm a painter first.
00:03:05.740 You know, a lot of people, they know me for my, I guess, anti-Semitism
00:03:10.220 and being very provocative.
00:03:14.040 But I am a painter first.
00:03:16.820 Yeah, so I'm an artist first.
00:03:18.220 I make paintings.
00:03:19.200 I'm a visual artist.
00:03:21.060 And you can collect or support me,
00:03:23.920 whatever you want to do, on my website, ArthurKwan Lee.com.
00:03:25.980 I'm so, you know, de-boosted and de-monetized
00:03:30.060 and just have pretty much non-existent reach at this point
00:03:32.440 on all my social media platforms.
00:03:34.500 So I just started YouTube like a month ago.
00:03:37.160 I have like, you know, just over 10K subscribers or something.
00:03:41.080 But I just started recently.
00:03:42.060 So I'm trying to build this up as well.
00:03:44.660 So you can find me on YouTube at Arthur Kwan Lee as well.
00:03:48.100 Hopefully they don't ban me here.
00:03:49.660 I've come to see that as much as YouTube is so controlled by the anti-Christian sewer dwellers.
00:03:55.880 That being said, I found that I can bleep out when I say things like Jew or when I say,
00:04:01.540 you know, certain things, you know, pedophilia, whatever.
00:04:04.280 As long as I bleep it out, I've been okay.
00:04:06.840 So if I go about it that way, it's actually somewhat okay.
00:04:10.480 I was doing Rumble, but I found that the usability is such ass
00:04:13.520 that I'm just like not going to bother with it.
00:04:15.960 So yeah, YouTube, I guess.
00:04:17.980 Instagram, I'm on my seventh Instagram account.
00:04:20.160 It's hi, this is Arthur.
00:04:22.560 Twitter is at Bad Asian, B-A-D-A-Z-N.
00:04:27.820 That's where you can find me.
00:04:29.040 And I am an artist first.
00:04:31.340 Actually, I'm sorry.
00:04:32.140 I'm a Christian first.
00:04:34.140 I'm a servant first and I paint biblical imagery.
00:04:37.520 But in conjunction to that is I'm just trying to be a man.
00:04:41.480 And as men, we have to step up and speak up or shit falls apart.
00:04:47.840 Amen, dude.
00:04:49.160 You know, we were talking before the show and the last time that we had you on,
00:04:53.180 you know, the first time, and I think this is your third appearance on the show.
00:04:57.480 Both of the previous appearances, we were in this like culture war, right?
00:05:02.480 Where it was like proclamations of things that other people were too afraid to say.
00:05:07.020 And that was really the kind of the space that we were carving out for ourselves.
00:05:12.240 And I think we both caught, well, you know, me and Top and then you as well.
00:05:17.660 We crossed this line where I think simultaneously, even though we weren't, you know, you weren't on our show or anything like that.
00:05:24.820 Yeah, like it wasn't, it's odd.
00:05:26.540 We're not in constant communication, although we do have each other's phone numbers check in from time to time.
00:05:30.980 But he's like, he's like, yeah, I went from a anti-Semitic, well, artist and then anti-Semitic.
00:05:36.680 And then I decided to bleep stuff out on YouTube and that works.
00:05:39.700 Yeah.
00:05:39.840 And then we're like, we also figured out that Rumble's ass, so we don't do that.
00:05:43.620 We're all figuring it out.
00:05:45.060 Rumble's usability, man.
00:05:46.340 I mean, I appreciate how they're friendly to the right-wing sentiment.
00:05:49.920 But I mean, at the end of the day, it's going to be a function of usability for both the creator and the consumer, right?
00:05:55.600 So it's just like, I just can't, man.
00:05:57.000 It's just like when I'm uploading something on YouTube, 10 minutes.
00:06:00.100 When I upload something on Rumble, I'm like, what is this?
00:06:03.260 Like, I'm not going to bother at this point.
00:06:04.760 But the thing that we were kind of having this realization, even though we were separate from one another, is like, you called it the tail wagging the dog, right?
00:06:18.980 And that's what you said earlier when we were having this discussion.
00:06:21.380 And it was like, yeah, we had our hands on what we thought were the cultural steering wheel on X, right?
00:06:28.240 We're expressing these sentiments of, you know, Jews being grossly overrepresented in, you know, positions of power in industry in America, Israel's, you know, authority within our own government.
00:06:41.500 All these things, crime statistics of black people, you know, you name it, we're saying it.
00:06:47.140 And at some point I pulled back, and I'm wondering if you did something similar.
00:06:50.660 It seems like you did.
00:06:51.560 And you went, is this what I'm talking about?
00:06:55.560 Because like we said, we have values.
00:06:57.420 We actually have values.
00:06:58.520 And when things threaten those values, we tend to pipe up.
00:07:01.280 Or was this all created so that guys like us would pipe up?
00:07:06.300 And are we inadvertently the thought leaders that they wanted us to be?
00:07:09.860 Is it all entirely controlled?
00:07:12.060 Okay, so here's my answer to this.
00:07:14.180 Because to me, because this is a very nuanced conversation.
00:07:18.460 Let me first say, and I don't say this with pretentiousness.
00:07:22.980 I say this with relatability.
00:07:24.920 So anybody who has any semblance of talent or reach will eventually, if they're using a modicum of the wisdom, see that.
00:07:34.080 I believe that Twitter is the greatest psychological operation.
00:07:39.060 Because it's designed to make you feel like you're a free speech agent, an ambassador of truth.
00:07:43.620 But actually, you need to placate to the echo chamber.
00:07:46.140 And all that is algorithmically controlled.
00:07:48.800 And what I've noticed is that people are just becoming more despondent, hateful, and disgusting.
00:07:54.320 And that's why I took a three-month hiatus.
00:07:57.620 Because number one, it was demotivating.
00:07:58.980 But number two, it was just not reflecting what I want to see in the world.
00:08:02.620 I told you I want more benevolence.
00:08:05.700 I want to fight for a more wholesome aesthetic.
00:08:08.220 I want men to become fathers and honorable.
00:08:10.300 And what goes viral?
00:08:13.180 What gets traction?
00:08:14.420 Being ugly.
00:08:15.760 Being angry.
00:08:17.200 Trying to tear people down.
00:08:18.400 And I've come to see that that's what Twitter designs you.
00:08:21.640 That's what it rewards.
00:08:22.540 So if you're being disconcerting, if you're being lowly and almost Jewish, like you're becoming the very thing that you abhor.
00:08:32.680 You're becoming bigoted, right?
00:08:34.040 You're embodying that spirit.
00:08:35.260 And I always believe that as a Christian, you don't adopt and practice and become the evil you abhor, right?
00:08:41.980 Like when Christ sent St. Michael, he sent him for righteous indignation.
00:08:46.060 Not because he wanted him to be hateful and angry.
00:08:48.280 So you can destroy evil.
00:08:50.400 And I realized that in order to participate in this game, there is a psychological operation.
00:08:56.100 And the psychological operation of Twitter is making you feel like you're revolutionary.
00:09:00.300 But actually, you're just a piece of shit asshole and you're just almost collectivizing.
00:09:05.820 And I call it collectivized coping because even if I've read all the racial data and I acknowledge many of these genetic truths about identity politics and in-group tribal thinking and how much of this is salient and historically factual.
00:09:20.340 All that being said, most people, they're utilizing these different communities, not because they actually want to even embody change or they want to actually heal the world.
00:09:32.320 They don't want to heal anything.
00:09:33.500 If anything, they're just all fucking sexually frustrated losers commiserating together.
00:09:38.600 And the reason why they're into politics is not a spiritual reason.
00:09:43.920 That's what I find.
00:09:44.860 Because if you actually care about healing the planet, you need to see the world universally.
00:09:51.020 And that recognizes that there's a creator and an order.
00:09:53.680 But what I noticed with all these motherfuckers is that they're into politics because they want to socially engineer society to cater and change the rules so that they can be seen as, like, sexually marketable.
00:10:10.380 That's what I've come to realize.
00:10:11.940 And once you see that, you can't really unsee it because I've gone to so many of these gatherings.
00:10:17.020 I've gone to so many of these get-togethers.
00:10:18.960 I've been invited.
00:10:19.500 Some of these guys have, like, a quarter million or half a million, like, Twitter followers.
00:10:24.840 And I've met these guys.
00:10:25.800 I won't name them.
00:10:26.920 And they're anonymous Julius Caesar profiles and all these things.
00:10:30.220 And they're dysgenic as fuck, okay?
00:10:33.300 Childless, angry motherfuckers.
00:10:35.280 And they have an army of other retarded losers who women don't want to fuck ranting on their behalf.
00:10:43.000 And once I saw that, I'm like, okay, that is running in tandem with what Twitter is.
00:10:48.360 And that's where I think we need to be careful because, to me, Twitter is the biggest psychological operation because it makes you believe you're doing something free where you're just talking in an echo chamber.
00:10:56.560 Like, you're not really doing anything.
00:10:57.880 Yeah, it's interesting because I think when you get things together in real life, that has a way of recalibrating you, right?
00:11:07.000 So a lot of these, you know, when we did the whole libertarian thing and I went and saw the LP Georgia situation and I went, oh, no, these are all unfuckable morons.
00:11:18.240 What's going on here?
00:11:19.220 Why are these the people that are proposing to be thought leaders in this space?
00:11:22.600 Because it's very much the same thing, you know, on the left, you have like the ICE protests and you look at who's engaging in the ICE protests.
00:11:31.940 And look, you know, on the show, I'm going to say it.
00:11:34.460 I'm not for killing people in the streets, but I do recognize that there was a long chain of emotional reaction that led us to this place, meaning like you're going to present children in cages and get low information to cast an emotional vote.
00:11:46.880 And that's going to lead to a series of domino effects.
00:11:49.620 It's going to lead to ICE being in the streets trying to clean up this this whole situation.
00:11:53.440 But when you look at everybody who's in the streets, they are all unfuckable, horrifying characters.
00:12:00.440 This was the same thing when I went to Occupy Wall Street.
00:12:02.980 They were all horrifying, unfuckable characters.
00:12:05.120 And the same thing when I was in the Tea Party movement.
00:12:07.180 Same exact thing.
00:12:08.340 So there is like this LARP effect, right?
00:12:11.680 I think the truth of the matter is the people that are worth – I don't want to say worth anything.
00:12:17.440 That sounds too reductive, even though I'm being rude about these people.
00:12:20.380 That is too reductive.
00:12:21.280 I'm not saying that these people aren't worth anything.
00:12:22.780 But I'm saying the people who are decent looking and who have values and who are hardworking, they're usually off building something.
00:12:35.360 The masses who are on Twitter, who are expressing sentiments behind anonymous, you know, whatever, those people are usually truly horrifying.
00:12:45.120 And I think the first indication that I had that the direction that I was going was bearing bad fruit was the glomming on into my comments section.
00:12:56.440 And every time I would say, well, black people are disproportionately violent.
00:13:01.400 They represent a small percent of the population, but they engage in a large percentage of the violent crime.
00:13:05.740 The first people that were there were the unfuckables in my comments section telling me like – and they're trying to claim me as some race warrior.
00:13:14.380 The title of this episode is The Unfuckables.
00:13:15.800 The Unfuckables.
00:13:16.480 The Unfuckables.
00:13:18.300 I'm a Jewish bioweapon.
00:13:20.780 I'm a mixed race, such and such.
00:13:23.280 I'm not going to be your champion.
00:13:24.620 In fact, if – and this is where I realized it.
00:13:27.060 You try to play things out to their endgame.
00:13:29.800 And I said, well, shit, if this sentiment is allowed to gain traction, it's only a matter of time until people like this come for, like, me and my family because we're just too many shades, too dark.
00:13:40.700 So I'm like, this is a bankrupt ideology.
00:13:44.140 And I started to pull back from that, and that was the beginning, dude.
00:13:47.900 Like, that was the beginning of me pulling back to you.
00:13:49.600 Well, you know, there's so much that I can take apart with what you said.
00:13:51.520 You just spoke about, like, so many different levels that we can dissect.
00:13:55.860 The first thing is that, okay, well, if you were able to procreate successfully, then I honestly care about your political dispositions and your worldview and philosophy incomparably more.
00:14:09.360 And the reason is because the opposite sex, 50% of the planet, they basically said that your genes were worth continuing.
00:14:16.820 So maybe there's something there worth considering, number one.
00:14:19.380 And I'm not trying to just dismiss people.
00:14:21.200 Like, if they're truly struggling and they're having a hard time, you know, attracting the opposite sex.
00:14:25.460 But, I mean, there's so much to unpack.
00:14:27.540 My point is that the echo chamber effect of social media, the red pill, all this bogus crap, is actually keeping you more miserable and hateful and bitter towards women.
00:14:37.420 And secondly, is there is validity in conversing and excavating these subjects.
00:14:46.180 It's not like you're into politics.
00:14:47.760 Therefore, you're a dysgenic genetic freak.
00:14:50.600 That's not what I'm saying.
00:14:51.540 That's not what I'm suppositing at all.
00:14:52.940 I want to see real men upright talking about these matters because that's how change will happen, right?
00:14:58.420 So that's not what I'm against.
00:14:59.560 That's not what I'm standing against.
00:15:00.800 The subject itself isn't the issue.
00:15:03.020 I'm questioning the intentions.
00:15:04.720 I'm questioning the intention behind so many of these people that seem like borderline bots.
00:15:10.080 And I would say that the – I'm not trying to tone police, but when the constant feedback is nothing but disgusting degeneracy,
00:15:19.940 like you might say something salient and wise and relatable and all they do is say,
00:15:26.220 shut the fuck up, mud shark experimental bioweapon.
00:15:29.720 Then at some point you go – it's not even offensive, but it can't help but reflect that maybe you're just a fucking loser.
00:15:36.900 Like if you're not hearing my point and everything needs to be dragged down to your level of debauchery,
00:15:42.020 maybe you're just fucked yourself because –
00:15:44.400 I think a lot of us –
00:15:45.240 Really happy – do you believe happy people?
00:15:47.280 Do you believe people who actually have like – you know, you get back home, daddy's home.
00:15:52.860 Are those people going online and acting like demons?
00:15:58.420 Right.
00:15:59.200 Of course not, you know?
00:16:00.660 I think a lot of people need to ask themselves, you know, what's happened with Marxist ideology and leftism and all this crap
00:16:08.840 is there has been a cultural climate of extremism on one side.
00:16:13.980 And I think it's like the law of opposites or whatever.
00:16:19.060 There's an equal opposite force that emerges because of that.
00:16:22.240 And are you just getting funneled into it?
00:16:24.000 And I know that it's easy to feel vindicated.
00:16:26.120 I'm not saying that it's not vindicated.
00:16:27.420 If an extreme position stands, then sometimes an equal extreme position has to stand in opposition to it.
00:16:34.540 But I don't know if we're meant to – even though that's a natural inclination within Christianity,
00:16:40.580 we're told to be apart from the world, right?
00:16:42.960 And that is the world.
00:16:44.640 When you have these things that are engaging across party lines or cultural lines,
00:16:49.780 are we meant to pick the left path or the right path?
00:16:52.740 Or are we meant to walk this narrow path?
00:16:55.020 That was really something that I had to start to ask myself too was like as good as it feels to be one of the people that are saying wild shit
00:17:04.240 that maybe there's an argument needs to be said, is this me kind of conforming to the world?
00:17:13.360 Even though it's a world I'd like to see, ultimately in my infinite wisdom,
00:17:17.480 I would certainly drive that culture to a point where it would become terrible, right?
00:17:21.600 Or is it me in general is a good question.
00:17:26.020 I think we got there.
00:17:27.720 I got there about six months ago with – you probably haven't seen whatever we –
00:17:33.700 I used to do the Tower Gang thing.
00:17:35.020 That whole thing broke up in like a very weird, very weird, sudden way.
00:17:40.920 And I was left to decide, okay, I was doing a thing that was provocative and it was debaucherous.
00:17:49.740 It was kind of out there, but I was doing it with an air of comedy
00:17:54.500 because I needed to tell what I wanted to say in a way that people would hear it
00:17:59.840 and not be like just beating over the head with like a preachy attitude, if that makes any sense.
00:18:06.360 But that was like – that was taken away.
00:18:08.940 And then I go, huh, I didn't want to do that anyway, but I was trapped here doing this.
00:18:14.880 And in a way, it was like a freedom.
00:18:18.500 And I actually like – I guess for like the last six months, I've been tweeting a little bit more lately
00:18:22.340 because who the hell has him with the Epstein files? It's a lot of fun.
00:18:25.400 But the appeal of Twitter kind of like fell off of me.
00:18:30.140 And I realized I was like, okay, well, what do I actually want to do?
00:18:34.380 I want to say the stuff that I say on this show.
00:18:37.000 And I want to do it in a professional manner.
00:18:40.400 The tweeting, it's not that it's a waste of time, but it conforms –
00:18:44.340 it's conforming my thoughts and my ideology because there is an algorithm that I'm rewarded.
00:18:49.720 And I'm like – you're keenly aware of when you're doing a thing that is being rewarded
00:18:54.140 because you get that dopamine hit.
00:18:55.740 But if you're not, I guess, disciplined enough to take that and go, all right, wait a second.
00:19:01.260 What just happened here?
00:19:02.220 And do I want to continue to feed that?
00:19:04.780 You'll fall into that trap.
00:19:06.220 And I don't want to call anybody out.
00:19:08.280 But there's – we all know the people that are doing this.
00:19:10.680 And we can see them like rinsing and repeating the same things.
00:19:16.520 Well, you see what Twitter rewards too.
00:19:18.680 It's not the nuance.
00:19:19.940 It's not the thoughtful thing.
00:19:21.080 It's like the how do I take this, reduce it into a bombastic, really inflammatory statement
00:19:26.420 and send that out into the world.
00:19:28.460 You want to know a very interesting one?
00:19:29.720 But like, again, so what the Twitter algorithm does not reward, the new movie, David, it's
00:19:35.580 like a children's movie.
00:19:37.340 And I looked at it and I go, oh, look at that.
00:19:39.660 The Goliath that they got, they have him biblically accurate.
00:19:43.600 Six fingers, six toes.
00:19:45.700 He's got like cherry blonde hair.
00:19:47.960 Right.
00:19:48.140 Which is like – and his skin is pale white.
00:19:50.720 And I go, hey, man, like good – it's a kid's movie, but you guys kind of nailed it.
00:19:55.200 You get it.
00:19:55.560 He's very pale.
00:19:56.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:56.580 And then I look at the – I'm still tapped into some of these older algorithms of like
00:20:00.020 they're like, oh, yeah, of course they made Goliath into a white man with blonde hair.
00:20:04.620 Yeah, of course they would.
00:20:05.440 And I'm just like, you're not even understanding.
00:20:07.020 But that one has thousands and thousands of likes.
00:20:08.880 It's gone viral.
00:20:10.060 I point out that – actually, no, this is quite biblically accurate according to all
00:20:13.500 the texts that we have in Reed and the extra canonical texts as well.
00:20:16.820 I don't know.
00:20:17.660 70 likes, 80 likes.
00:20:18.720 And I was like, fuck this.
00:20:19.300 You know what?
00:20:20.140 This is so funny because it's very revealing.
00:20:21.860 And like you just mentioned about the Twitter algorithm, someone asked me because there
00:20:26.760 was a point where I'm on my seventh Twitter account, but every time I was able to basically
00:20:30.860 get like – no, for real, every time within like a month, sometimes two months, I would
00:20:35.300 get like over 100K followers.
00:20:37.100 And that's because I knew how to break that barrier.
00:20:39.880 And somebody asked me, it's like, how do you get that traction?
00:20:43.820 And I just told them.
00:20:44.660 I said, you have to be a disgusting, filthy pig.
00:20:48.580 And I'm serious because that's actually what was rewarded.
00:20:51.960 And I mean, I was able to build enough momentum where I could type, hi, that's a tweet.
00:20:59.040 And it would get like a quarter million impressions.
00:21:01.700 You know what I'm saying?
00:21:02.620 Now I'm at the point where I can write the most salient, deep subject, something that
00:21:06.460 really resonates with my soul, something I want to share.
00:21:08.880 You get like 300 views.
00:21:10.920 And it's just because that's the shadow banning effect.
00:21:13.220 And I think what you gentlemen are sharing here and what I would agree with is that
00:21:16.560 ultimately the highest masculine imperative is speaking our truth.
00:21:21.960 I know that's a liberal sentiment, but there is a resonance there.
00:21:25.840 It's about speaking our mind and not holding it in.
00:21:28.240 And that's why ultimately like the real ones, the real ones, and this has also been a part
00:21:33.660 of my journey, would rather be broke and real than rich and fake.
00:21:40.080 Like that's what it boils down to.
00:21:41.120 So I'd rather keep it a fucking stack and I rather have reach where I'm at least speaking
00:21:45.940 my mind, even if it doesn't get, you know, the same breach and visibility, because like,
00:21:51.500 what's the point otherwise?
00:21:52.760 Like, what is the point?
00:21:53.660 What is it?
00:21:54.100 What is it to be a man is to use the logic spirit in you?
00:21:58.520 Yeah.
00:21:59.120 And this is what we were pushing up against with like the, with the ending of Tower Gang
00:22:03.080 and that idea of this like real provocative speech and saying the thing you're not allowed
00:22:06.840 to say, that was like the brand.
00:22:08.440 That's the top lobster brand.
00:22:09.520 And I think that's pretty well established if people, I guess people forgot, but it's
00:22:13.900 not what I, I just go, they're like, oh, how come you won't be my nigger sayer anymore?
00:22:17.800 And I'm like, well, because I'm not going to do it anymore.
00:22:20.280 I'm not going to, like David said the same thing.
00:22:22.360 He's like, we're just not going to do it anymore.
00:22:23.620 And they go, oh, well, you're not the same.
00:22:25.360 And I was like, well, I don't really give a shit.
00:22:26.840 Like, yeah, it's like, I don't feel like it.
00:22:29.300 You know, how about that?
00:22:30.680 And then what happened is that I wonder if you guys would agree with this.
00:22:36.180 Did you feel for a moment in time, like we had the opportunity to steer culture on a
00:22:42.380 big app?
00:22:42.980 Like it felt like it was actually there.
00:22:44.540 It felt like you could do it.
00:22:46.220 And then what I realized is like, no, that's not true.
00:22:50.100 There's an algorithm that waves and they're steering people.
00:22:53.600 And for a while, the direction it was aimed was just in the same direction that we've
00:22:57.740 always been aimed.
00:22:58.700 I will say, though, I did a couple of times.
00:23:01.600 So like there have been a couple of times where it's like, clearly I am being steered by
00:23:05.800 that hidden, that invisible hand that's like, yep, this is what works.
00:23:09.380 So do that.
00:23:09.940 And I've done that.
00:23:10.740 It's got six fingers.
00:23:11.760 It's got six fingers and it's going to push you towards the devil.
00:23:14.780 But then there has been times where I have and you can never you can't you can't steer
00:23:19.640 the algorithm to where you want it, but you can steer it into chaos.
00:23:24.380 And I think that I did that a lot.
00:23:26.720 And that's one of the things that I had the most fun with where it's like you do take that
00:23:29.740 thing.
00:23:30.000 It's like, oh, you want to reward this?
00:23:31.600 OK, but we're going to make it crazy.
00:23:33.600 Yeah.
00:23:34.020 And then you just twist it on its head.
00:23:35.680 And that for me, that was like the most fun part.
00:23:37.480 But like after a while, you just go, I don't know, people like, oh, why don't you do that
00:23:41.400 anymore?
00:23:41.660 It's like, well, because every time I did that, I left a piece of my soul here.
00:23:44.820 It does take a little bit of a toll.
00:23:46.800 Like you have to be this like aggressive type of a person.
00:23:50.220 You have to use this verbiage that you wouldn't like.
00:23:52.180 I don't know.
00:23:52.540 It's like every day.
00:23:53.080 Like, hey, you want to fight a thousand people on Twitter?
00:23:55.080 And for a while I said, yeah, like every day I was like, let's go.
00:23:58.100 We're going to fight a thousand people today.
00:23:59.520 And I'll tell you right now, some people, they make good money on Twitter doing this.
00:24:03.480 You know, that's the thing.
00:24:04.580 But I mean, what I will say is that, look, it's what happens is a clickbait effect.
00:24:08.080 Like, you know, you want to make a nice YouTube thumbnail.
00:24:10.620 You're right.
00:24:11.080 And there's like a whole like aesthetic understanding to this.
00:24:13.540 Well, there's a way to tweet that way, too.
00:24:15.820 So in a way, it's like it is giving you traction.
00:24:18.280 But unfortunately, it just, you know, echoes a sentiment that the vast majority of people are brainwashed sheeple that are worshiping a system that's designed to fucking kill them, which is retarded.
00:24:30.840 But that's the way that's the circular logic of the Ouroboros here.
00:24:34.500 But if you actually care about decency, if you actually care about the youth and protecting kids, well, that's not going to get the same reach as me screaming.
00:24:47.960 You know, look at all these disgusting Indians and niggers.
00:24:53.980 And don't get me wrong.
00:24:54.580 Like there's there's truth.
00:24:56.040 Oh, wait, should I not say that?
00:24:57.960 No, no, it's fine.
00:24:58.880 It's fine.
00:24:59.520 But only say it if you want to.
00:25:01.740 Only if you want to say it.
00:25:03.240 Who's that?
00:25:03.920 That's Nancy.
00:25:05.420 Nancy.
00:25:06.080 Well, well, here's the real truth of it.
00:25:07.820 It's like at the end of the day, when I'm done saying those things, the only thing that I care to continue to say isn't going to get that traction.
00:25:15.580 And what I care to continue to say is pick up your cross and follow Christ.
00:25:19.520 And that is going to get you.
00:25:21.620 And that's why I went through this for a while where I was like, I stopped tweeting like, like, you know, it's funny.
00:25:26.060 I only use that word now, like around Matt and Matt is like, Matt's our guy.
00:25:32.100 He owns the coffee shop and he's like he does the Bible studies on our show.
00:25:35.520 And he's like kind of like our our biblical teacher here.
00:25:38.520 And he keeps us in line because we're crazy people.
00:25:40.900 But when I do use the word, it's not even on air.
00:25:42.940 I use it with him and I use it in a way because sometimes he does.
00:25:46.540 He'll put up these boundaries of like, you know, what's socially acceptable.
00:25:50.020 Yeah.
00:25:50.160 He's like, oh, come on, man.
00:25:51.220 Like, you're not allowed to say that.
00:25:52.820 And then, no, no, that's when you say it.
00:25:54.760 So this it's a tool, but it's not something that I'm just going to throw around because then everybody claps.
00:25:59.980 Like, yeah, here's something I just realized I was just looking at.
00:26:03.620 I was just, you know, there's three heads on the screen for me right here.
00:26:06.780 Right.
00:26:07.360 I just noticed I just realized that we're in a difficult place because on one hand, we don't want to, you know, appease the mob and basically just become ambassadors and avatars of this hatred that literally becomes the anchor around your neck.
00:26:25.440 Like a lot of these people are very unhappy.
00:26:26.680 I met a lot of them like I have a lot of these people's numbers who are like known for being like, like, again, the avatar of the hatred instead of some echo chamber.
00:26:36.140 Right.
00:26:36.800 That's what I want.
00:26:37.400 I don't want to appease to them.
00:26:38.340 But then.
00:26:39.780 The Christian audience, they're afraid of me, too.
00:26:43.400 That's the thing.
00:26:43.940 So I'm like, I'm always in this place where like I would like this one guy was like, oh, I love your art.
00:26:48.800 It's not many people are utilizing their painting, their visual acumen in this direction.
00:26:56.120 Would you want to come on my show?
00:26:56.940 I'm like, yeah, sure.
00:26:57.800 And he just saw this one reel of me where I'm talking about, you know, the history of blood libel and these paintings.
00:27:04.040 And he's like, I'm sorry.
00:27:05.340 I'm this video crushed over here, dude.
00:27:06.760 We can't do that.
00:27:07.600 Yeah, we've experienced something very similar.
00:27:12.920 We experienced it all.
00:27:13.660 As a matter of fact, we're going through it right now.
00:27:15.340 But this is a constant.
00:27:16.740 It just comes in waves.
00:27:18.040 Yeah.
00:27:18.540 Maybe we could help Arthur out because I don't know if this is the this probably not the first time you're dealing with this.
00:27:23.820 How and how to deal with it within the Christian community.
00:27:27.120 It's like, oh, so you're a Christian influencer.
00:27:29.700 What happens now?
00:27:30.920 Something tells me it's definitely not the first time.
00:27:33.140 I'm the worst person to talk about.
00:27:35.440 I'm a professional bridge burner because my thing is that I don't try to offend people.
00:27:41.060 But it's not that I'm just double downing every time because I'm not trying to be stubborn for its own sake.
00:27:46.260 But it's more so that I'm not going to put on some fake persona.
00:27:53.320 Yeah.
00:27:53.560 Like, like, you know what I'm saying?
00:27:55.560 It's like that I've learned to tone down.
00:28:00.460 You know what I mean?
00:28:00.880 Because I do begin to ask myself as an ambassador of Christianity, like, am I if my fruits are hatred, then then I've got to, like, assess the situation.
00:28:11.420 So in that way, in my stupidity, I have fumbled quite hard.
00:28:15.620 We'll continue to fumble and currently fumbling.
00:28:17.740 But I'm trying to refine it.
00:28:19.360 Yeah, I just don't want to be the type of person that I'll espouse that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life.
00:28:32.000 And then I'll go and do something that creates fruits that are obviously not Christ-like.
00:28:38.400 Like, now, there are times where somebody might identify the fruits as un-Christ-like.
00:28:45.180 But if I look at them and I examine them and I go, no, you just don't understand what's happening here.
00:28:48.860 Right.
00:28:49.220 I'm fine with that.
00:28:50.100 But if I examine them and I see holes in my game and I go, that's a good point, that might have been, then I've got to, like, wash that out.
00:28:58.900 And I've got to, like, repent for that.
00:29:00.460 And I've got to try to figure out how to reorient and at least go forward and do better.
00:29:04.380 So it's not to say that I'm not going to stop doing any of the things I want.
00:29:09.640 It's just, like, if you're genuine and you have a criticism, and I look at that criticism and I go, I think you might be correct.
00:29:16.980 I have to cut it out.
00:29:17.940 And I've done that a bunch of times.
00:29:19.440 It's going to continue to happen.
00:29:20.960 And I think that God is patient.
00:29:23.580 He cuts a lot of the fat off you as you move.
00:29:26.480 And it happens in little manageable ways where you cast aside an idea or a thing that you used to do.
00:29:32.540 But there are a lot of things, right, Arthur, that other Christians will look at and they will determine that it's bad fruits.
00:29:41.780 And I'm still standing on that and going, no, you just don't understand.
00:29:44.580 Right.
00:29:44.840 It's a very fine line.
00:29:47.080 And walking, I mean, it's kind of exhilarating what we're doing.
00:29:50.960 It's because nobody else is doing, especially in this space that we found ourselves in, which is, like, very much embedded in the Christian community.
00:29:58.100 No one else is doing what we're doing.
00:29:59.520 We still say off-color things.
00:30:01.140 We still do off-color things.
00:30:03.060 We still joke around.
00:30:04.320 We still beat up archaeologists and fake archaeologists and things like that.
00:30:08.040 We're not going to stop.
00:30:09.420 We beat up any fake archaeologists.
00:30:10.740 I don't know what you mean.
00:30:11.640 You did.
00:30:12.020 But what you guys are doing is very important, honestly.
00:30:14.080 Like, I don't, like, this is another problem, though, is that I guess the reason why I don't just, you know, by the way, I'm sorry to interrupt you.
00:30:21.040 I know you were.
00:30:21.680 I don't know.
00:30:21.920 Go ahead.
00:30:24.380 Interrupt me.
00:30:24.740 I'm not just trying to curtail.
00:30:27.440 I'm sorry, what?
00:30:29.840 Go ahead.
00:30:30.200 Go ahead.
00:30:31.860 No, I mean, I'm not just trying to curtail, like, the church.
00:30:35.320 No, not the church, but, like, the Christian online, I guess, brand and persona.
00:30:40.500 I'm not trying to, like, purposely just, you know, be disagreeable to it.
00:30:44.340 That's sort of not my point.
00:30:45.700 I think I just don't agree with the holier-than-thou LARP as well.
00:30:51.420 I think that's also a part of the Dungeons & Dragons play.
00:30:53.920 And I believe that we're all actually all broken and fallen.
00:30:56.780 And the beauty of it is that Christ will always give us grace.
00:31:00.700 And we should basically move in that stride and be thankful.
00:31:03.560 And, like, I'm not one of these purity-spiraling Christians.
00:31:08.260 Like, I'm incredibly broken and afraid and always feel low like any other man, just if we're willing to admit it and acknowledge that in each other and go forward.
00:31:19.640 I just don't believe this.
00:31:21.960 If you're going to be a Christian influencer, you got to just be, I don't know, like, you can't have your hair grown out.
00:31:29.560 You can't have any independent style.
00:31:32.040 I'm like, you know, you can't have any tattoos.
00:31:33.700 Like, whatever it is.
00:31:34.420 You know, I just don't buy that.
00:31:35.820 I think in this epoch, we have to understand that it's the matter of the heart.
00:31:40.160 And if I feel integrity and honesty and a man who has surrendered to God, that's my brother.
00:31:51.600 That's kind of where I'm at, you know?
00:31:53.600 I know that Twitter, if I make that tweet right now, they'll say, what a faggot.
00:31:57.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:58.680 Well, that's the other thing, dude.
00:31:59.720 I started to notice that, unironically, within this body of people that were supporting me every time that I said something about race statistics or otherwise, was non-ironic pagans, right?
00:32:10.680 That was, I was going, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:32:12.660 This dude that believes in the Norse pantheon and he's, like, you know, got a Mjolnir necklace like an asshole and he's got runic tattoos on his body and he's saying hail Odin in his bio is championing me for the things that I'm saying.
00:32:27.760 That really started to screw with me and I started to notice that, that within this, look, it is true that something that you might describe as white erasure seemed to be taking place.
00:32:40.720 And it is true that you could be racist against everybody except for white people.
00:32:46.060 And it is true that white men were being, you know, castrated spiritually, metaphorically, whatever, and that white women were being driven into debauchery.
00:32:57.220 And maybe it was true that there was a Jewish agenda behind it.
00:33:00.700 And I want to get into that.
00:33:03.860 But when you, when you proclaim those true things, then you were suddenly being supported by pagans, by dudes.
00:33:13.720 Brother, this is the same diagnosis I had.
00:33:16.880 The problem with these people is that being white is their religion.
00:33:20.560 Yes.
00:33:20.860 And the problem here is that there is a totally uncurated synchronization between the pagans and white nationalists for a reason.
00:33:31.000 It's not because white people.
00:33:33.360 It's because what's happening is that for them, they're kind of exercising this blood mandate.
00:33:41.660 And look, I don't deny racial statistics whatsoever.
00:33:44.620 I never have actually made videos about this, trying to basically expel this so that we can talk about it openly.
00:33:51.780 My, my issue is that, you know, actually, this is a perfect thing, encapsulation of it.
00:33:56.780 I remember I went into this X space.
00:33:58.520 And I usually don't like doing those X spaces because they're basically like eight hour identity politics group therapizing.
00:34:03.680 It's fucking retarded.
00:34:04.600 The fact that people do that all day when you can be hanging out with your kids and shit.
00:34:09.040 You know what I'm saying?
00:34:09.920 It's like, but I did go into the space and it was a bunch of white nationalist pagan people talking shit about India.
00:34:18.280 And I'm like, yeah, I don't want India to become North America at all.
00:34:23.660 I don't disagree with that sentiment.
00:34:25.680 But what they don't understand is that India is literally what happens if they abandon the cross.
00:34:31.520 Because that is the most pagan faith structure in all of the planet here.
00:34:35.780 Hinduism is literally about relativity in that moral framework.
00:34:40.740 Like paganism is incarnate today in India, above all else, anywhere, anywhere on the planet.
00:34:46.720 And I was like, but don't you understand by rejecting any semblance of an overarching good and that wholesome aesthetic, you are going to quickly accelerate in that same direction.
00:34:58.040 And that's kind of my issue is that any people, when they abandon God, when they abandon Christ, they're to me, they're just fucked regardless.
00:35:07.520 Yeah, that's what I've come to see.
00:35:09.080 And to them, being white is a religion.
00:35:10.920 And honestly, I don't deny that white people under genetic structure in the world that they have, they're incredibly industrious and inventive and their societies have been supreme.
00:35:21.920 That being said, the way these people bitch online, they're no different than blacks saying we was Kangs.
00:35:31.160 Because it's like, I'm Nikola Tesla because I'm fucking white.
00:35:34.240 You literally mock the black guy who calls himself Mansa Musa because he's black.
00:35:38.200 Like, shut the fuck up.
00:35:39.580 You fucking childless incel freak.
00:35:41.920 You know what I'm saying?
00:35:42.960 That's a huge insight.
00:35:43.980 They're not looking in the mirror when they talk.
00:35:45.600 Yeah, what ended up happening was the same way that they would get ridiculed for saying, you know, black people for saying the white man is to blame for everything.
00:35:54.140 Eventually, what ended up happening was like, look, there's truth to it, right?
00:35:57.960 And I want to talk quite a bit about this whole JQ thing and what became of it.
00:36:02.340 But the Jews became for the white man what the white man was for the black man.
00:36:09.660 Yeah, and they don't see that.
00:36:11.500 And you know what?
00:36:12.720 Somebody sent me this video and actually sort of encapsulates this perfectly.
00:36:16.960 There was this 4chan user who kept threatening like political figures.
00:36:20.260 And he kept posing as like this superior white area man to everyone.
00:36:24.280 You know, the whole profile photo was like everything, right?
00:36:27.700 Perfectly aesthetically sound.
00:36:29.180 And he was getting so despondent that the police actually found his IP address.
00:36:33.160 And this is like one of those YouTube body cam footages, right?
00:36:36.800 It's one of those videos on YouTube.
00:36:38.200 And it has like millions of views.
00:36:39.580 I'll have to like send it to you guys.
00:36:40.680 And the police get to this guy's house.
00:36:42.660 And I was expecting some like young, decent looking 14-year-old shit poster.
00:36:47.220 And this mom, this old boomer mom, she's like, hi.
00:36:51.200 It's like, what's going on?
00:36:52.320 And the police like does – I can't remember his name.
00:36:55.120 I'm drawing a blank.
00:36:55.660 But does he live here?
00:36:56.460 And he's like, yeah, let me go see.
00:36:58.420 Calls him.
00:36:59.080 It's like David or whatever.
00:37:00.020 David comes out of his basement.
00:37:01.680 He's this giant fucking fat troll in his like late 40s.
00:37:05.060 And he has this disheveled hair.
00:37:07.020 And then he's getting arrested.
00:37:08.200 And I'm like, yeah, you're LARPing as a superior man saying that because my skin is white, I'm Nikola Tesla.
00:37:15.200 And calling black people who do the same things, chimping out retards.
00:37:18.960 But you're doing the exact same thing.
00:37:20.560 And this is my point.
00:37:21.380 We do not want to adopt and practice the same evil that we abhor.
00:37:24.660 We should come above it.
00:37:25.900 And the only way we come above it is with grace and that grace only comes from God.
00:37:29.980 And that's why people don't understand that it's actually a spiritual matter of the heart.
00:37:33.660 And until you don't – like until you like can see that it's a matter of a war between good and evil, like if you can't see that, then you're never going to be able to look past these petty transgressions.
00:37:44.600 Well, that's – these people are looking for unification along racial lines or along party lines or ideological lines.
00:37:51.640 And really it's like it's unification through Christ.
00:37:55.500 And that's a huge part of it too because when you're doing this, you're sort of aligning yourself with whatever – white nationalists or you look in the comments section and there's pagans or this – or you're aligning yourself with the base red pill movement or you're aligning yourself with republicans.
00:38:11.900 You're aligning yourself with the world.
00:38:14.600 And it just keeps going back to that.
00:38:15.940 It's like everything is the world and we're called to be in it, not of it, and we're supposed to be unified through Christ, right?
00:38:22.040 And so that is the thing that I realize is the actual value.
00:38:27.080 I mean –
00:38:27.780 Well, what a genius plot, right?
00:38:29.180 Like if you wanted to take – if you wanted to take white people who – like Arthur said, admittedly they have like some of the best structures of civilization.
00:38:37.560 I'm pro-white, by the way.
00:38:39.360 I'm just –
00:38:40.000 Oh, yeah.
00:38:40.020 No, I don't –
00:38:40.600 Like me too, yeah.
00:38:42.000 You know what I mean?
00:38:42.580 Yeah.
00:38:42.720 And it's like my point is that I'm like, okay, you want to be – you want to have a greater increase of beautiful, good, wholesome, attractive, upright white people.
00:38:53.500 I'm for that too.
00:38:54.720 I love that.
00:38:56.060 But you have – you're like go make some white babies.
00:38:58.780 The reality is you can't.
00:38:59.980 That's why you're fucking acting like an asshole online.
00:39:02.120 Yeah.
00:39:02.220 That's just my point.
00:39:03.000 I'm just being honest.
00:39:04.780 You know?
00:39:05.320 That's what I've come to see.
00:39:06.200 There's also – I mean I think the LARP – not just the LARP but like the movement because there will be like white people who are non-ironic pagans and they will – they'll tell you things like, oh, you're worshiping a Jew?
00:39:19.500 Oh, yeah.
00:39:20.120 And this is like – it is a genius move of the devil because I'm also – all right.
00:39:27.940 We've gone through this whole JQ thing and we've seen all the crimes and we know what they do.
00:39:33.340 And this is not really a surprise to anybody who's been paying attention.
00:39:36.320 But if you've read the Bible, you'll also look at this and go, yeah, this is not a surprise to anybody who's been paying attention.
00:39:43.500 These people have been consistently evil and wicked in some of the worst ways, in the worst ways possible.
00:39:49.600 So when I'm looking at them, again, are all these God's chosen people?
00:39:53.220 Probably not.
00:39:53.960 They're definitely a remnant and they're probably in Israel.
00:39:56.380 So now with the reputation that they have in conjunction with the way white men specifically in America are viewing them more and more every day, especially now with this drop of the Epstein files, it's like when they look at me and they go, you're God's a Jew?
00:40:12.780 And I'm just like, man, you guys are – you're so far down the rabbit hole.
00:40:16.000 It's almost like you're – like you have fallen full for this psyop because that's your way out of this bullshit.
00:40:21.620 And it's such a genius trap to put you in the situation where it's like, yeah, go ahead, put that square peg in that round hole because it's not going to fit.
00:40:29.580 But you're not understanding.
00:40:31.200 You're not understanding why Jesus would come here as a Jew.
00:40:35.560 And somebody told me it was actually kind of like one of these like mind-blowing things.
00:40:39.440 He said that Jesus was a Jew or – well, Jews are God's chosen people for the same reason that Jesus was born in a food trough.
00:40:49.260 It's like an example.
00:40:50.360 It's God showing you like, yeah, look at this.
00:40:54.040 Watch me use the lowliest.
00:40:56.140 Yeah, and watch me bring about the greatest thing in the world here.
00:40:59.940 That's why Jesus comes as a servant, a humble servant.
00:41:02.520 It's meant to be this contradiction that human beings cannot grasp and will trip you up.
00:41:07.020 But it has to be that example.
00:41:08.860 And of course, it's going to be used and spun around on people.
00:41:12.360 I just – I don't know.
00:41:13.160 So many people are going to go astray and they need to hear the truth.
00:41:16.680 Because like right now in the shop, we have like younger kids coming in.
00:41:20.360 They're like, man, in our English class, we're just like learning about people.
00:41:23.920 And we find out that they're Jews and every single time.
00:41:26.320 And these kids are 16.
00:41:26.760 They own the porn industry.
00:41:28.380 They own it.
00:41:29.060 Yeah, and it's like –
00:41:30.080 And they're telling us stuff that we've been like – that we were tweeting last year as –
00:41:36.260 and I don't even know if we were tweeting this.
00:41:38.180 Because we did affect culture.
00:41:38.960 But we were like tweeting this shit and people were like, yeah, and then it gains traction.
00:41:42.780 Now a year later, I'm hearing a kid from high school say the same thing.
00:41:46.060 But I'm like, oh, but you've got no background or cultural understanding of where to put this.
00:41:51.440 So when this is told to you, you're going to go, hell yeah, Al Hitler, right?
00:41:55.760 That's going to clip that.
00:41:57.360 But this is what we're going to do.
00:42:00.060 Yeah.
00:42:00.920 And without the understanding of all the pagan roots of Nazism and where that stuff comes from and like, oh, you know, Hitler was a good guy.
00:42:07.240 And Hitler was like, you know, maybe not, man.
00:42:08.980 Like you got to do a little bit of research.
00:42:10.380 But you're so far behind the wall.
00:42:11.240 It wasn't a good guy, actually.
00:42:12.060 Yeah, he's a false in the line, but he's not a good guy.
00:42:15.020 No, well, that's the thing is because we were lied about him or lied to about him, everybody assumes that the exact opposite.
00:42:21.220 As a correction, they're overemphasizing him, right?
00:42:23.280 But it's actually false as well.
00:42:25.340 Yeah.
00:42:25.600 And, you know, what I got to say is that, like, the bottom line is I'm not trying to convince these pagan white nationalists the doors open.
00:42:32.000 That's actually always been my approach.
00:42:33.660 Like, I'm willing to talk to anyone, but they don't want to talk.
00:42:36.980 That's the point.
00:42:37.500 They love their echo chamber because it makes them look like both these victims and have that heroic complex in them because all the problems in their life is because, you know, they're just these victims.
00:42:47.480 And that's why they have this resurgence, right?
00:42:49.420 So it's just their sort of, like, inferiority complex.
00:42:52.320 But what I will say is that they're the types where there was that – what is that boomer retard who tweeted about he went to church service and he had an Indian pastor, so he walked past him or something.
00:43:04.900 But during, you know, I can't remember the details of it, but if I saw – I don't know, like, if – let's say I was, you know, done wrong by some racial demographic.
00:43:16.320 But if I saw them at church being upright and proper, loving and kind and pleasant, would that not be something you want to see?
00:43:26.000 Like, isn't that an addition of it?
00:43:28.700 And for them, it's like, no, because they're not white.
00:43:31.000 That's just simply what it boils down to.
00:43:32.860 And it kind of reminds me of when Kanye was going so hard into paint, wearing a Nazi shirt and all this.
00:43:38.380 I'm like, okay, so he's literally saying black people are so brainwashed and need to stop hitting white people.
00:43:44.200 And I woke up to this reality, and I happen to be, as a person who woke up to this reality, as a black person, that one of the most influential people on the planet, and I'm going to coincide with that sentiment.
00:43:55.640 But then they all say, no, fuck you, you're black.
00:43:58.300 Like, at some point, at some point, you realize that they don't even want to win.
00:44:03.120 They just want everyone to be in kinetic war and have no universal coming together.
00:44:09.900 Because the reality is, the actual archetypal structure, not to be so Kampel and Tolkien-esque, but it's that we're all these different, there are divisions and different tribes at foot.
00:44:20.940 But we need to learn to work together under God.
00:44:24.520 And if we can all come together and slay Sauron, like the orcs and the Asians would be the elves, white people would be the humans.
00:44:30.920 And that's actually the correct prototype, actually, because that's actually the only way we'll win if you just look at it from how much control they have, if you wanted to tear down that structure, which is their main goal constantly.
00:44:42.960 But I don't think they actually want to win, because if we just look at it from a statistical perspective, simply numbers, percentage base.
00:44:49.180 This one guy on Twitter, he broke down how, in order to win, we actually will have to come together, even to preserve white identity.
00:44:59.620 You're going to have to come together with these other races, and they don't want to accept that.
00:45:04.300 But he was able to break it down.
00:45:05.860 His name's Ian Malcolm, that guy.
00:45:08.020 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy.
00:45:08.740 Yeah, he actually broke down it in, like, percentage basis.
00:45:11.140 He's like, okay, if they own this disproportionate amount of power, this is the percentage, this much.
00:45:16.360 He, like, broke down the whole numbers, and I was like, like a calculator.
00:45:19.880 I'm like, okay, so you actually have to work with people who respect your, you know, desire to preserving your white identity.
00:45:28.060 And, again, I don't want to see white people disappear.
00:45:31.500 I don't want people to say this guy's a Korean bioweapon or a Chinese asset or whatever.
00:45:37.380 That's not the case here, you know?
00:45:39.400 Well, they did do something interesting, right?
00:45:42.220 Because, I mean, we do like to rag on the black community for, whatever, blaming white people for everything that woes them.
00:45:49.180 And then, of course, white people will say, actually, it's the Jews who weaponized you.
00:45:52.240 They did something fascinating where they made sure that black people were going to be broke, and then they made victimhood a currency.
00:45:57.080 And now you see black people clamoring to, you know, retain as much victimhood as possible.
00:46:01.940 But I think that when Top is talking about the JQ leading to this, you know, this kind of pointing at Jesus and saying, he's a Jew, too.
00:46:14.260 Now, one of the things that is glaringly obvious about that is when people get upset about the Jews, what are they getting upset about?
00:46:22.260 They're getting upset about cultural subversion and rot.
00:46:25.660 They're getting upset about pornography.
00:46:27.640 They're getting upset about predatory loans, about, you know, the banking elite.
00:46:34.700 Corruption, corruption, corruption.
00:46:36.580 None of these things is what Jesus preached.
00:46:38.960 So, I mean, it's a remarkable thing to point at Jesus and say he's a Jew while he displays none of the characteristics of the thing that you've come to hate.
00:46:45.960 But it does seem to me like what happened was the Jewish question was suppressed for a long time and that that was instrumental in creating what followed.
00:47:00.080 And what followed was a release on a pressure cooker valve.
00:47:04.720 And that release was Twitter and where we could not express these sentiments in any other place.
00:47:11.320 Suddenly there was a there was a place and we went in and we dipped our toes in, you know, and we said the Jews own the boats and we looked around and it was like, OK, we were allowed to say it.
00:47:22.540 And then, you know, we kept hitting that button, kept hitting that button and suddenly the valve exploded.
00:47:29.180 And this this this thing that was suppressed.
00:47:32.140 And that's the idea about an idea specifically.
00:47:35.320 You cannot suppress it.
00:47:36.820 If you suppress an idea, it simply goes underground and it builds and it stagnates and it waits for a time when it's finally allowed to be expressed.
00:47:44.100 Twitter comes along and this is allowed to be expressed.
00:47:47.700 And then after that, you can see or at least I can see these sort of strings of the algorithmic puppet master moving this conversation along.
00:48:00.180 You would be boosted if you said, you know, this about the Jews, you would be boosted if you said that about the blacks.
00:48:04.900 And for a long time, I was sitting back and I was wondering, well, I can see this happening.
00:48:11.420 What then would be the point?
00:48:12.880 Would the point be so that there's another persecution and they get another Israel type of situation?
00:48:18.260 Maybe likely. Right.
00:48:19.340 That kind of see that playing out.
00:48:22.220 They don't seem to you know, the body of Jews that maybe the Bible would call the synagogue of Satan that are hiding behind the actual small percentage of Jews that still exist there.
00:48:31.560 They have no problem hiding behind them like human shields.
00:48:35.560 They'll pull the strings.
00:48:36.860 They'll poison the well.
00:48:37.940 And when the persecution comes, they won't be there.
00:48:41.200 You know, but the people that own the deli and, you know, that kind of thing, they'll be the ones who are persecuted.
00:48:46.880 And so could that further there?
00:48:49.080 And then I realized maybe it genuinely is so that people will turn to Christ and go Jew.
00:48:56.280 And when that happens, I mean, there are people right now, the sentiment that they're expressing is worse than that of an atheist who says, yeah, religion is is a manmade construction.
00:49:12.680 Yeah, that you know what I see happening, man, is I mean, that that that coincides.
00:49:18.940 Yes, because what I see is, look, I want as Christ wanted, you know, how he flipped the tables against the money changers without be like getting rid of a pack.
00:49:30.200 Right. Like I'm not against any of that because that's corruption.
00:49:33.200 Right. Let me first say if the fucking purple people were causing usury and owning all the porn, I want the purple people to be expelled.
00:49:39.460 So, first of all, I have a universal tenet here that I'm acting.
00:49:43.600 But what I will say is that I actually want these things that they hyperbolically preach, the actual action in regards to expelling corruption instead of a leadership.
00:49:54.280 What man is going to be against that? That's better for your progeny and the next generation.
00:49:58.320 My issue is that I truly believe, as I mentioned previously, the Twitter psyop is designed to create more volatility so that people don't recognize that hate movements are destined to fail because they end up eating themselves.
00:50:13.600 And that's kind of the main sentiment I want to share because there's literally like you guys were talking about.
00:50:17.120 There is an assembly line of new JQ influencers and that shit is just like so fucking cringe.
00:50:25.440 There's these fucking young guys who are trying to make a career without having any gonads or have paid any type of price being Jewish, expelling, like repeating the talking points of what motherfuckers like me and my peers did.
00:50:40.780 And I've been deep banked and shit. I've lost all this shit.
00:50:43.520 And these fucking faggots are now repeating these points. Now that the Overton window is comfortable enough to repeat these points, my point is their intentions are not pure.
00:50:52.580 They're just being influencers in a different manner. They might as well be fitness influencers with OnlyFans girls.
00:50:57.680 To me, it makes no difference. It's like they're conservative ink slop consumers and because they don't actually want to heal the planet, they don't actually want to tell people that, you know,
00:51:07.120 there's a answer and solution for us all rise up together because that's, that is what they fear. That's not what they want.
00:51:15.120 So if they actually wanted what they preach, they would check their tone, but they don't, they want to go viral.
00:51:20.660 They want to go on fucking Miami streets with this stupid Mike and Zoomer dressed outfit and go, how many, if somebody was kicked out of a bar 109 times, is it the bar's fault or is it the person who's drunk?
00:51:32.920 Like shut the fuck up, faggot. Like, but you're not, you're not a revolutionary because you're always speaking underneath the Overton window.
00:51:41.460 You don't actually have the integrity. And the reason why, you know, this is that, look, the way a person speaks tells me everything about them. Right.
00:51:50.620 And the fact that all of these people, they just want more division and deleteriousness.
00:51:56.760 They can all go fuck themselves, honestly, because I don't have faith in these people.
00:52:01.260 Yeah. Do you think that they do, though? Like, is this something that I, that I often wonder when I see the, the next generation or the generation after that come, come up after me.
00:52:10.380 And they're saying, I'm looking at that. I'm going like, yeah, I, yeah, I said that. I said it funnier, but you said it.
00:52:17.240 And then they'll, they'll even have the nerve to look at you and go, yeah, you ain't, you ain't about it. You won't say this.
00:52:23.440 It's like, you know, you won't say, you won't be my, my N word sayer. And I'm like, well, again, no, I'm not.
00:52:28.540 And also there's no more arrows. Yeah. It's like, we already shot, like, to be honest, Owen Benjamin was the guy.
00:52:34.540 Yeah. He shot the arrows. We, I got some arrows, but Owen Benjamin took all of them.
00:52:39.820 Yep. And, and you know what? He didn't, but he, like when I was going through that phase, he didn't go like, Hey, you faggot.
00:52:47.760 Like, you know, like I already said that he's watching, but he did, he did give us a like careful criticism.
00:52:53.380 Like, you know, the kill the J in your own heart was a, was a big one, but he let us, he let us, uh, he let us work in our space because I think he, he was smart enough to understand.
00:53:04.240 And he's like, Oh, these guys seen it. They're seeing it again. Like for the first time, got to go through it. You got to go through it.
00:53:09.660 They're going to struggle through it. There are some people who are just out there doing, you know, for clicks and all this stuff.
00:53:14.740 Yeah. But you guys actually follow God. That's probably what Owen saw in you all. Because again, it's, it's, that's the universal spirit that I see is that like, if I saw some young, I don't know, what do you call it?
00:53:25.020 Like zoomer alpha, whatever, some young guy is repeating these points. I'm like, I could go to him and be like, listen, buddy, you're not in the ADL list.
00:53:32.660 Like me faggot. You know, I don't, I don't need to do that. Right. But, but if he's actually wanting to carry the torch because he wants to bear that weight and integrity, like you say, carry the cross, dude, go for it.
00:53:46.080 Like one of my goals, this is one of my personal goals is to be antithetical to boomers. I want to get out of the way. So these young people can have carpe diem.
00:53:55.040 Like that's a personal goal of mine. I want them to be better than me. Sure. But my problem is that most of these JQ influencers I see, like, like, like, bro, they, they just want to go viral and they just want to be influencer in a different space.
00:54:10.520 That's all it is. Like, it's like business influence needs to be the biggest thing with Gymshark and all this. It's just not that popular now. So they're looking at this as another trend. And that's what I've come to see.
00:54:19.740 And I'm like, well, you know, if you're going to talk about all these things without actually taking the risks and standing for something.
00:54:30.420 If you want to kill someone. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:33.020 You, you monetize it. This is like, I'm like, I'm demonetized everywhere, brother. I make my money through paintings like this. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't get any, any drip.
00:54:45.420 But these guys aren't. The next generation now, the next generation that's doing what you did in a much safer manner are getting paid for it now.
00:54:53.840 And it's like you. So that's OK. What the what the. Again, it's their intention. Get your money, playboy.
00:55:00.960 Well, no, I mean, listen, what the powers that be have done, have taken. They've taken all the teeth out of the things that you were saying before.
00:55:08.180 And now they pay these guys to say it. So now there are the guardrails. So there's like an industry behind it.
00:55:13.300 And we've seen it happen with, I don't know, the libertarian space. I've seen it happen with a couple of a bunch of places, especially within comedy, different genres of comedy.
00:55:21.300 But it's like money's inserted and it's given to the people who are like saying the thing.
00:55:26.060 And now they now that you take the money, they're like, all right, here's the guidelines. You could say these things here.
00:55:29.680 A couple of things you could say. But like this is the the revenue. This is this is what is created.
00:55:34.360 And then it's steered. And it's just like you can't be punk rock and take money from Elon Musk.
00:55:41.140 I think that's it. Yeah. The punk rock spirit has been removed from this endeavor.
00:55:46.340 This venture is no longer punk rock. It's no longer dangerous.
00:55:50.500 It's not dangerous. That that was that was what gave it. It was like you were actually, you know, that's kind of why I put away on the line.
00:55:58.300 Yeah. What a psychopath. It was like this. Yeah. Once I realized I was like I'm getting paid.
00:56:02.540 Yeah. Like this is not. Well, OK, so so I want to frame this for you.
00:56:08.380 This doesn't put me at risk. I don't want to. I just want it three times.
00:56:11.720 You know what I'm saying? It's like, give me a fucking break. Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:14.820 So it's like, give me a break with the shit. It's like it's like you motherfuckers are going on Omegle
00:56:19.600 and seeing some black girl pop up and calling her the N-word to get some reaction and to share it.
00:56:24.540 So yeah, provocative. It's like, wow, you're revolutionary. You're calling some little kid a profanity.
00:56:29.480 You know what I mean? It's like I don't fucking care. I really do hate that shit.
00:56:32.680 When they're doing that to kids on Omegle and everything, like number one, get your kids off Omega.
00:56:36.180 What the fuck are you doing? But number two, just because somebody's a bad parent out there
00:56:40.440 doesn't mean that this kid is suddenly free game. And to go out there, dress like a cartoon character
00:56:45.580 and say nigger to a little child is is it's like, how is this there?
00:56:51.300 There is something you said that what shines through, it's the pursuit of truth.
00:56:54.260 It's like influencers, man. They don't believe in God.
00:56:56.760 It's the worst shit ever. I really can't stand that. And it's like this is not about pursuing the truth.
00:57:02.540 This is not about trying to understand, trying to look for solutions or or proclaiming it
00:57:08.240 because you think that it's an actual emergency that needs to be addressed.
00:57:11.080 And nobody's saying it. We're way beyond that pale. Everybody's saying it now.
00:57:14.700 So that's not the problem anymore. So now you're just doing a cartoon character and screwing kids up.
00:57:19.360 Here's a problem. We all have to deal with, though.
00:57:22.040 And I think, Arthur, you I don't know if you've looked at looked at what you've done before, not to be like, look at what you've done.
00:57:28.320 I'm speaking for myself. The things that I've done, somebody just mentioned somebody in the chat.
00:57:33.140 The things that I've said and done on a show which were meant for comedy, but also meant to purvey a message.
00:57:39.040 They're now being repeated in a ham fisted way by people who were I know who were fans of what I did and they like it.
00:57:47.560 And it's like it's very much like like they go out there like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, digger like that.
00:57:52.680 And I'm just like I'm watching them do it back. And I'm like, oh, not like that.
00:57:57.540 Not like that. And then but I also realize that it comes off like they might think I'm condescending on them.
00:58:02.080 Like a lot of the people, some of the people that were fans of this show that no longer now they're like, oh, they go away from me because I'm like, I try to explain to him like, dude, dude.
00:58:10.420 Not like that. And I can't explain to you how to do this. I know what you mean.
00:58:13.960 But I contributed to that because I influenced them. Yeah.
00:58:18.860 And maybe in my lesson or in my actions, I wasn't I wasn't as specific as I should have been with like my intentions of why I'm doing it.
00:58:27.060 Or like if you want to do something like this, there's a craft and an artful way to do it.
00:58:32.080 Like you mentioned about like how you would craft a tweet in a way.
00:58:35.620 There's a lot that goes into this. If there's one word or syllable that's misfired, if there's like a simple pause in a joke and inflection that I'm telling, it's not going to come out the same way.
00:58:45.560 But but the listener that is a fan of this stuff doesn't perceive that and doesn't really understand it.
00:58:50.920 Yeah. And then they want to do it because this is a craft.
00:58:53.340 But they also like I think their intentions are like it is kind of a craft.
00:58:57.340 You know, it is. It is. But their intentions when they see somebody doing they go, man, that guy said something and it resonates with me.
00:59:03.720 You know what? I want to do that, too. Well, if you don't do it the right way, it just sounds like sounds.
00:59:08.440 You know what it is? I don't want to I don't want to sound so ridiculously Asian, but this is the same from the audience.
00:59:14.680 You ready? So when the wrong man uses the right means, the right means work in the wrong way.
00:59:21.660 Right. Right. That's it. All of these people are becoming JQ influencers.
00:59:26.040 You know, I'll use a comedy term. I told this to Leonardo Joni once that every time I see comedians who are brainwashed by whatever you want to call the woke virus or identity politics or they're constantly hitting a certain angle.
00:59:38.620 Every time you're forcing a throat laugh, not a belly laugh, you're making them basically posture and go through this action and almost like a pseudo applaud instead of actually having a real reaction from your gut.
00:59:51.800 And that's what a lot of these new age. Controversial ethno nationalist influencers are doing, because I'm not necessarily disagreeing with their points.
01:00:01.940 But my point is that they're not actually. Producing or moving the people in a positive place, it's like self-serving debauchery.
01:00:13.840 And the reason why, once again, it always comes down to this, is that their morality is not anchored on anything.
01:00:18.780 Like, yeah, I can't help but wonder, too, if like the reason that it's coming off, you know, so I don't know.
01:00:28.300 It's not just crass. I mean, it is crass nature, but it's coming off cringy and it's also coming off like a moot point.
01:00:35.160 And the reason is, is because I have come to the conclusion that we were being to make again after.
01:00:39.840 Well, I think so. So I came to this conclusion that we were being funneled.
01:00:44.420 What what organically felt like a noticing of Jews and all of their crimes against humanity ultimately was an exact path that was laid out for us.
01:00:55.800 And there was a time when you would go out and you would take the arrows.
01:00:59.860 You said, you know, Owen Benjamin. And I think that was a real genuine time.
01:01:02.640 We were like second or third wave, you know, and there was still some real potency to like getting the message out.
01:01:08.840 It was when Twitter first opened the gates for that.
01:01:11.580 But now I think we sounds full of ourselves. I think we were the last ones.
01:01:16.600 And now what's happened to be honest, I will say, I think, yeah, we were.
01:01:20.040 I got banned from Twitter right before Elon Musk changed it to X.
01:01:24.980 I got banned for criticizing Linda Yaccarina, who was like the CEO at the time.
01:01:29.800 And I was like right to her face. I know this bitch saw it because it went super viral.
01:01:34.440 So like that's real shit. Like I was talking to the person who owned it and criticizing them accurately.
01:01:39.180 And for that, you're like moved aside. But I do. And I got it back.
01:01:42.440 I got the account backs in some weird way, like Vivek Ramaswamy, like, well, I do.
01:01:50.560 Bizarre, dude. I think we were still being funneled in those.
01:01:53.620 But that was like dangerous shit, right? Yeah. Like that's like.
01:01:56.020 Well, now that the danger has been removed, all that's left is the funnel.
01:01:59.000 All that's left is the path that they laid out for us.
01:02:01.720 And like like you said, with the whole pointing to Jesus and saying you're Jewish.
01:02:05.200 And I was saying to Arthur a moment ago that I think that that was part of the point.
01:02:09.820 I now have begun to look at every time a drop is added to the JQ bucket, because at some point we're going to reach a critical mass.
01:02:17.460 And I don't know what that looks like. Right. I'm not going to persecute the Jews.
01:02:20.740 I don't want anything to do with that.
01:02:22.400 I just wanted to tell everybody that they own the porn companies and maybe own the ships.
01:02:25.960 But outside of that, I'm not calling for the persecution or anything.
01:02:29.240 Even if we're talking about getting them out of the country, what happens when you try to forcibly remove a people that doesn't want to be removed?
01:02:34.840 Well, then the force turns into violent force.
01:02:36.540 I'm not even going to go down that path.
01:02:38.300 But every time a drop gets added to the bucket, I do notice.
01:02:41.900 And when these Epstein files came out, one of the biggest it wasn't just a it was like somebody dumped another bucket into the Jew noticing.
01:02:49.480 Yeah, it's a big one over and over and over again.
01:02:52.540 The word Goyim appears in the Epstein files that were released by the DOJ on Friday.
01:02:57.980 It's like hundreds, 200 and something times, maybe more than that.
01:03:02.020 And people are doing keyword searches.
01:03:04.360 Obviously, Goyim is a glowing endorsement of what they think of us.
01:03:10.920 But on a much smaller scale, you could see it.
01:03:13.460 If they didn't use the word, the language Goyim, I'm sure you could still find context throughout the files where you would be like these Jewish superiority.
01:03:21.580 Yeah, Jewish superiority inside of our government is is the largest problem inside of our leadership.
01:03:29.720 I mean, I don't deny that. But again, the problem is that these these voices commenting on the matter, they're actually not trying to fix anything.
01:03:38.120 No, but my my thing is, I like to play a thing out until it's final solution.
01:03:44.040 You know, like I go, I go, how does that end?
01:03:46.840 Where is this going to end?
01:03:48.860 And I've seen where the Jew thing ends.
01:03:50.760 And I go, well, I can't be a part of that.
01:03:52.860 If there is a portion, a percentage of those people that is God's people, I'm not going to be responsible for persecuting them.
01:03:58.560 I've already done enough, actually.
01:04:00.300 And so and also, it seems to me like you want us to notice.
01:04:05.220 And there's even this element where it's like, do the Jews want us to notice?
01:04:10.100 Because it seems like the Jews are doing things in a very Jewy way.
01:04:13.200 I just don't want them in like super powerful leadership positions.
01:04:16.760 Like that's like, yeah, that's a reasonable thing.
01:04:19.340 I just want to because at the end of the day, I know that like we live in this new age where people can basically exercise like a flexible morality.
01:04:27.160 You can be whatever faith you want to be, blah, blah, blah.
01:04:29.660 Pantheism, right?
01:04:30.500 As long as you all believe in something spiritual, which is such a vague work.
01:04:33.780 Like any girl with crystals in college calls herself spiritual, whatever you want to call it, right?
01:04:37.800 But the reality is that religions have very different worldviews and how they look at universal precepts.
01:04:45.560 And I would rather have a person inside of, you know, our position of power and leadership being Christian.
01:04:53.580 That was my point.
01:04:54.400 That was actually Connie's main point.
01:04:55.800 Connie's only point was when he was wearing that whole ski mask thing on Alex Jones.
01:04:59.400 He was like, look, all I'm saying is that if this is a country founded by God, we should have the leadership being Christian.
01:05:07.260 That's all I'm saying.
01:05:08.140 Like, you know, I'm not, I'm not going like, I'm not like trying to actually gather them up, round them up, put them on trains, put them in concentration camps.
01:05:15.580 That would be fun.
01:05:16.400 But that's not what I'm necessarily trying to do.
01:05:19.660 Just to show them the trains because the trains are really cool.
01:05:23.000 Also because it's a nice spot anyways.
01:05:24.880 It's like you get the rubbing oil.
01:05:27.820 They give you that little gift basket.
01:05:29.180 But like, if we, if we're to believe in biblical prophecy and many of us think that we could well be in, in the end times, right?
01:05:37.360 In, in a series of events that's unfolding in the book of revelations, the Bible does talk about a time where the nations will turn on Israel and they're doing everything they can to fulfill them.
01:05:47.520 And it's like, I see that happening.
01:05:50.360 And I'm like, okay, that's interesting.
01:05:52.460 So let's say we're there and the nations are going to turn on Israel.
01:05:55.960 What are we called to do during these times?
01:05:58.820 Right.
01:05:59.040 That's, that's always, I think what we need to bring it back to is like, what is scripture telling us to do?
01:06:02.420 Is it telling us that, is it saying that we should turn on Israel or just saying like, look, this is what's going to happen.
01:06:07.340 The world that you're called to be in, but not of is going to turn on Israel.
01:06:11.240 These are events that you're going to see come to unfold.
01:06:13.400 Is it saying partake in that?
01:06:15.420 And if there is truly a remnant of God's people in there, but it's also, you have a guy stabbing you, right?
01:06:21.140 That is true.
01:06:21.800 He's just stabbing you.
01:06:22.720 And you're going, we shouldn't beat this guy's ass.
01:06:24.520 Yeah.
01:06:24.820 And at some point you're like, man, you know, I don't want to be anti-Semitic, but you gotta, you gotta stop.
01:06:31.360 Like I said, that's my thing.
01:06:33.000 I'm like, we had this argument before.
01:06:34.960 I was like, they just gotta stop.
01:06:36.820 Yeah.
01:06:37.180 They gotta stop.
01:06:37.900 And then he goes, well, how do you make it stop?
01:06:39.380 And here's where things get uncomfortable because, um, this is why I make it very clear that I do want there to be some type of solution.
01:06:47.220 I'm not going to say final solution like you did, by the way.
01:06:50.400 You know, it was just the last solution.
01:06:53.940 There needs to be a solution because the only problem is that, you know, a lot of people don't understand how spiritual bonding really works.
01:07:06.060 And the problem with the anti-Christian sewer dwellers, these, these small hats is that they're, they're not going to stop top.
01:07:16.120 They're just not going to stop.
01:07:17.060 And the reason why we know that they're not going to stop is because if you study the structure of power, the reason why they have power actually is because this is a very complicated thing.
01:07:30.620 But like, if you study the psychology of these folks and the way power works, the reason why they will only double down, the reason why things like the Samson option even exists in the first place is because, you know, there's different ways to bond with one another.
01:07:46.880 But the Jewish, like, obviously sex is a form of bonding, right?
01:07:50.120 Like if you look at the 300 warriors in Constantinople, like a lot in Thermopylae, sorry.
01:07:55.280 A lot of people don't know that like, this is uncomfortable truth, but they're all having sex with each other.
01:07:59.160 That's why they were so good.
01:08:00.180 They were going in the hot gates.
01:08:01.820 Yes.
01:08:02.180 The reason why the 300 soldiers were so powerful was because they're all having sex with each other.
01:08:06.620 So they're all caring about each other.
01:08:08.480 They're like a bond.
01:08:09.580 Well, there's one way of having a deeper bond together than anything else.
01:08:13.020 And it's doing crimes together.
01:08:14.540 And the fact that Israel is doing child genocide together, it's like they're thick as thieves.
01:08:18.500 It's like when two kids go to the principal's office together, they're not going to admit anything so that they can continue to practice their duplicitous behavior.
01:08:25.980 The problem is that I wish they would stop, but they're not going to because they've already exhibited child genocide so that they can't stop.
01:08:34.620 Because the world has now seen them do something so degenerate and dark on repeat that all they have to double down is to confide with each other.
01:08:44.000 So that's why there does need to be a solution.
01:08:46.560 Once again, that's half the reason why all these secret societies do blood libel, adrenal blood drinking together because they become, once again, closer as a bond than even their significant other they're sleeping with.
01:09:03.420 Like crime is actually historically the way secret societies have always bonded closer together.
01:09:08.440 That's why when you look at some kid in Compton, they ask him to do some carjacking, you know, because now it connects him to the gang.
01:09:15.700 So doing something really outside the boundaries of security and societal acceptance and those norms that actually do that because it makes them connected to each other.
01:09:26.680 It creates a very deep tie.
01:09:28.180 It's deeper than sex, actually.
01:09:29.800 That's what people don't realize.
01:09:31.000 And the reason why these people won't stop is they won't.
01:09:35.500 They just won't.
01:09:36.280 They've been killing kids and bombing schools and hospitals for how long now?
01:09:42.860 So, I mean, they're going to double down, man.
01:09:45.600 That's why it's an uncomfortable truth.
01:09:47.160 But something needs to be done.
01:09:48.240 But again, my point is that we should be able to talk about these matters.
01:09:51.480 But we need to accept that as Christian men, we do need to step up and fix this situation.
01:09:57.380 But if we're just constantly fighting each other about, yeah, but you need to be this race.
01:10:02.160 It's like I always say that we're all in a car driving 100 miles per hour towards a brick wall and we're arguing about the seating arrangement.
01:10:08.880 So something does need to be done, but we're too busy stabbing each other in the back and cutting each other's throats because you're a bioweapon.
01:10:19.080 Well, I mean, Raven.
01:10:21.880 You know what I'm saying?
01:10:23.680 Yeah.
01:10:23.860 Well, so I almost want to pose a question.
01:10:27.260 Yeah, yeah.
01:10:27.720 You know what?
01:10:28.480 So if in the Bible, Israel has been worshiping fallen gods since, you know, Exodus and before, and they're engaging with Canaanites who are doing cannibalism and necromancy and all this shit.
01:10:47.720 And they're, they're practicing usury, you know, over and over again, Israel falls and comes back and falls and comes back and falls and comes back.
01:10:57.360 And they're doing the same thing now.
01:10:59.800 I think that would really emphasize what you said a moment ago, Arthur, which is they're not going to stop.
01:11:06.860 And if that's true, they're not going to stop because they've engaged in these and it's, it's deeply ingrained in who they are, you know, as a people to whatever extent, let's just say that's the case.
01:11:15.620 And the Bible even shows us this, this, this behavior.
01:11:19.460 I think Arthur, Arthur brought up a good point, too, because it mimics the story of the fallen angels, where they take this oath.
01:11:25.040 Sam Yaza presents the oath to the rest of the fallen angels.
01:11:27.280 And we're like, we're going to take these women as wives.
01:11:29.560 And this is the sin that you cannot come back from.
01:11:32.680 This is the thing that will throw you out of God's grace.
01:11:35.120 They all agree.
01:11:35.880 And then they move forward thick as thieves, some would say.
01:11:38.700 And until the end of time, when their, their punishment will be.
01:11:42.100 The question again is like, well, is that my punishment?
01:11:45.080 You just said it right there, though.
01:11:46.160 Their punishment.
01:11:46.720 Who punishes them?
01:11:47.660 God punishes them.
01:11:48.460 Right.
01:11:48.700 And so if we're looking at Israel and this is like, God's like, hey, hey, hey, I know they're fucking retarded, but these are my people.
01:11:55.760 And he doesn't even obfuscate through the Bible.
01:11:57.740 Like, yeah, yeah, look, they're, they're super retarded.
01:12:00.120 They do terrible shit.
01:12:01.360 And then they're kind of good.
01:12:01.960 Then they do terrible shit.
01:12:02.940 Then they're kind of good happens over and over again since the dawn of time.
01:12:05.520 So when you look around and you see them doing terrible shit, you're damn right.
01:12:08.420 They are still my people.
01:12:10.120 I'm going to deal with them.
01:12:11.080 All right.
01:12:11.220 But what do you do when they're in America?
01:12:12.660 That's a great question.
01:12:13.340 I don't know.
01:12:14.100 That's kind of what I'm posing.
01:12:15.260 This is, yeah, no, Israel is, is God's problem.
01:12:17.820 The Jews are God's problem and he's going to deal with them.
01:12:20.080 Yeah.
01:12:20.340 But right now they're my problem.
01:12:21.600 And they, and now, now you're, now you're putting a problem that I shouldn't have to deal with in my hands.
01:12:26.700 And now we're going to act out outside of, we have to act outside of God's will.
01:12:30.400 But then you have to go back and look at the scripture again.
01:12:32.580 Like this is one of the things that I reference constantly is the, man, what book is it?
01:12:37.360 I think it's a first Samuel where they're talking about Samuel's sons and, and these were the prophets of old, but they became corrupt.
01:12:44.360 And the Jewish people go, yo, even your own sons are corrupt.
01:12:48.540 We can't have this kind of leadership because at, at that time, that's what the Jews were under.
01:12:52.560 They were under like, you know, prophets and priests and they go, we want a King.
01:12:56.960 So Samuel goes and he asked God, they said, Hey, they want a King.
01:12:59.620 And God said, all right, you give them a King, but these are the consequences.
01:13:02.520 And the people still said, yeah, we don't care about those.
01:13:04.980 Oh, he'll take your daughters as concubines.
01:13:06.600 He'll send your sons to war.
01:13:07.680 He'll take your crops.
01:13:08.640 There'll be taxes.
01:13:09.360 There'll be fires.
01:13:10.060 There'll be war.
01:13:10.820 And they go, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:13:12.680 But this got to stop.
01:13:14.700 Your sons are taking money from the temple or whatever they're doing.
01:13:18.500 They're full of corruption.
01:13:19.420 And right now we can't deal with this and it's got to stop.
01:13:22.700 So even though God gave them that strict warning, like, yeah, I'll give you what you want, but
01:13:28.540 these are the consequences that people still ask for because we're up against time.
01:13:31.740 Like us, us right now, we're all up against time.
01:13:34.200 We're in America.
01:13:34.920 We've got kids, we've got family, we've got jobs, we've got things that we need to do.
01:13:39.360 And there is certainly a people here, especially, I mean, listen to the Epstein files kind of
01:13:43.560 like reveals a lot of this is the people who are working against the interest of what
01:13:46.580 everybody else wants to do.
01:13:47.780 You want to make artwork and have a fantastic life.
01:13:50.000 I want to have kids and I want to make t-shirts sometimes and do a podcast that's fun.
01:13:54.760 But these things get tripped up in a very intense way.
01:13:58.700 And then it leads us to these conversations.
01:14:00.840 But it's like, is it our job to have these conversations and to make and to dole out this
01:14:05.180 sort of judgment?
01:14:06.760 Well, I got a question for you.
01:14:08.400 I got a question for you.
01:14:09.180 So you just made a delineation about how, you know, I can be following God on one hand
01:14:14.700 and then I can be enacting it in my own manner.
01:14:19.820 And I would say, is it always a separation of one or the other?
01:14:23.540 Because, you know, if, you know, you also just mentioned the Epstein files.
01:14:28.260 Well, Jesus has, you know, if you want to know how Jesus feels about pedophiles, I mean,
01:14:34.300 you just have to open many verses in the Bible.
01:14:37.060 So is it necessarily a bad thing?
01:14:39.380 I would say it's the condition of the heart.
01:14:41.320 Like in the same way, I practice martial arts, right?
01:14:44.680 When I go to spar, I don't hate the person I'm sparring, but I can put a whooping if I
01:14:49.220 want to without malice, right?
01:14:51.220 Is there a way of not having the demonic sensation of sin and rage inside of you?
01:14:57.340 And don't get me wrong.
01:14:57.920 We all have our emotional tantrums.
01:15:00.440 It's all human.
01:15:01.560 But, you know, I just wanted to pull up this verse because in Matthew 18, 6, it says that,
01:15:06.520 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it will be better
01:15:12.240 for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of
01:15:16.800 the sea.
01:15:17.620 Like, does anybody know how big a millstone is?
01:15:20.780 These are giant rocks.
01:15:22.480 Imagine tying a rope on one and he toss them over the water because you're a pedophile.
01:15:27.140 Now, why does the Bible say that, though?
01:15:29.020 He's not saying to be angry and go kill his whole family.
01:15:32.000 But is there not also a place for men to be biblical where they're not always just meek
01:15:40.020 and, I guess, being pushovers and spineless jellyfish?
01:15:43.000 Like, if there's something in your face, like you said, if someone stabs me, then you should
01:15:46.960 kick his ass, right?
01:15:47.900 Like, I don't know if you're being unchristian for that.
01:15:50.580 Like, I am always receptive and willing to pray and talk to anyone.
01:15:55.340 Like, I saw this guy at this cafe bakery.
01:15:57.520 It looks like he was having a bad day.
01:15:58.720 I literally just like, hey, can I pray for you?
01:16:00.200 And I just prayed for him.
01:16:02.220 And that's something I need to have the courage to do more.
01:16:06.640 I understand that.
01:16:07.880 And I wish God gave me that strength more.
01:16:09.600 And I pray for that.
01:16:11.140 But there's also evil that just might need to get slapped in the face sometimes.
01:16:16.360 I don't know.
01:16:16.940 Because if we're just going to hope that Israel stops or do we need...
01:16:20.300 Like, in a proper society, if it was a civil society, all of these pedophiles will be permanently
01:16:28.800 locked up if they're complicit, especially in leadership.
01:16:31.480 And the only time they should talk to somebody is when they're an exorcist, honestly.
01:16:36.100 Like, that's kind of where I'm at.
01:16:37.440 And it's not because I'm trying to be a hardliner.
01:16:39.140 It's because there is a special place in hell for those who target the most innocent of us.
01:16:44.040 I do believe that as well.
01:16:46.120 Yeah.
01:16:46.420 And we have been targeted in a way.
01:16:49.580 And in a way, the society, not America itself, when we're talking about the government, but the people,
01:16:55.260 we are innocent.
01:16:56.820 We were innocent in a way.
01:16:58.260 Like, we were innocent to these external strange ideas that were imported here,
01:17:02.760 these age-old ideas that perverted the society.
01:17:05.100 And now over the last, I don't even know, 70 years, we're seeing the fruit of that.
01:17:09.020 I think my question, it's not even a question.
01:17:11.080 Somebody said, yes, Christians are to judge.
01:17:13.040 That's 100% correct.
01:17:14.840 But in comedian terms, in comedy terms, we're making fun of Timothy Albarino now, every single day.
01:17:24.100 There's a point now, like today, where I'm like, I felt it in me where I was like, fuck this guy.
01:17:30.620 And I'm like, I don't like this guy now.
01:17:33.520 And now, I'm not going to talk about him.
01:17:36.960 You understand?
01:17:37.860 Whereas before, I was like, ah, this person deserves the ridicule.
01:17:41.760 And I can do this in a way where my heart isn't hardened against them.
01:17:46.200 But we can still push.
01:17:48.260 And I mean, some of these things are mean, like what we're saying.
01:17:50.940 But like, in my heart, I know that I'm not like really angry.
01:17:55.280 Now, today, for some reason, I'm just like, no.
01:17:59.020 So now, I'm not going to say anything.
01:18:00.700 And it's the same thing with these guys.
01:18:02.120 It's like, all right, so we're supposed to dole out this judgment.
01:18:05.180 Number one, who?
01:18:06.020 The pedophiles that run the country?
01:18:07.860 The guys that have the power to do it?
01:18:09.260 The ones that are on the take from these guys?
01:18:10.840 Okay, sure.
01:18:11.500 The one that did it with the scimitar, and they drank the blood from the challenge.
01:18:13.740 Yeah, those guys.
01:18:14.360 Yeah, they're going to do it.
01:18:15.860 The rank and file.
01:18:17.600 We've already kind of like amassed ourselves.
01:18:19.440 And we do have this bitterness in us, whether we want to admit it or not.
01:18:24.300 I can tell you right now, I can make some jokes about it, but then there's some days where
01:18:27.780 I'm like, yo, man, that's just a little too far.
01:18:30.840 And now I'm a little offended, you know?
01:18:33.120 How can I dole out justice if I myself am angry?
01:18:37.000 And if we start that ball rolling, especially right now, like the way the sentiments are,
01:18:42.640 it's going to go too far.
01:18:43.900 And it's not going to be just.
01:18:45.200 That's for sure.
01:18:45.960 And it's just going to be messy.
01:18:47.440 And we're going to pay the price for that, which is why I'm like, hands off right now.
01:18:51.620 I'm not going to have anything to do with that.
01:18:54.140 I don't know how we get there where we can dole out righteous justice.
01:18:58.840 And simply, we don't want this anymore.
01:19:01.640 We don't want this in our society.
01:19:02.920 This is all.
01:19:03.400 These are all reasonable things to ask.
01:19:05.260 We're not there as a society to even do that.
01:19:07.640 And honestly, we're not going to get there anytime soon because we're so mixed up in the game.
01:19:11.980 Twitter is a microcosm of that.
01:19:13.680 Twitter, you see it first, right?
01:19:14.780 Yeah, exactly.
01:19:15.440 It's like we're just dealing with words.
01:19:16.900 And it's like where some of us are saying, hey, we're not talking about the guy who owns
01:19:21.320 the deli down the street.
01:19:22.500 We're talking about the Epsteins of the world, the people that own these institutions and
01:19:26.280 are spreading poison throughout society.
01:19:28.600 And then, of course, there's always some segment of the population that goes, no, all of them.
01:19:33.940 Yep.
01:19:34.320 Even Christ.
01:19:35.340 And you go, okay.
01:19:36.380 So how the hell do you manage that?
01:19:39.120 It's completely unmanageable.
01:19:41.900 Okay.
01:19:42.260 So number one, I think you're right.
01:19:44.940 But where do we go from here?
01:19:49.260 I mean, that's what I'm saying.
01:19:50.220 That's why I come up with good answers.
01:19:52.420 Like, there's always a sentiment like this is why we need Jesus.
01:19:55.060 We just, you know, surrender and go to him.
01:19:59.180 Because there kind of isn't really any other solution, actually.
01:20:02.460 Which is why it's fucked up.
01:20:04.580 But what I think is that we have to control what we can control.
01:20:10.460 And, you know, we need to just remember that we're all children of God here and, you know,
01:20:17.660 love our kids and protect them, especially during Passover.
01:20:22.080 I mean, what else can we do?
01:20:23.900 You know, it's like we should focus on what we can control.
01:20:26.720 And I will say, I know this is incredibly unpopular, but we also need to not forget to abandon why we're fighting.
01:20:38.220 We need to maintain our kindness.
01:20:41.460 We need to maintain our grace.
01:20:43.160 And it's hard because some of that shit is just so bleak, man.
01:20:47.960 And sometimes I'll get deep into the rabbit hole and I just get, like, pissed off.
01:20:51.320 Like, I just did a video about blood libel paintings.
01:20:53.820 And now there's so many paintings of Christian babies, like babies who were skinned by Jews.
01:21:02.980 And the blood was raised.
01:21:04.140 Disgusting shit.
01:21:06.360 You know, especially everyone knows Simon and Trent or William of Norwich.
01:21:10.220 But there was all these Christian men who discovered what was happening.
01:21:14.420 And then they, like, went deep into it because they kept finding these bodies of babies when the sun rose, like, dismembered and shit.
01:21:21.560 Like, what the fuck is this?
01:21:22.800 And finally, a bunch of these Christian dads were like, all right, I thought we're done with the Crusades.
01:21:27.340 Well, let's bring that energy.
01:21:28.220 And they just, like, looked for this shit.
01:21:29.760 And they found all these weird trafficking circles.
01:21:32.080 And there's so many paintings depicting all this shit.
01:21:37.220 How could you not react with such, like, visceral...
01:21:39.220 That's what I'm saying.
01:21:39.860 I feel like when there's evil facing you, you as a Christian also do need to step up.
01:21:46.940 And this is where I give credit to the Orthodox Christians.
01:21:50.140 And, like, I'm not necessarily a denomination, but I respect this about them, where they often depict...
01:21:57.240 And I'm showing my art history background and my aesthetic tutelage a little bit.
01:22:01.220 But Christ is often depicted with a sword, especially in the Orthodox canon, which is the oldest branch of Christianity.
01:22:08.440 So this isn't, like, a new thing that they're doing.
01:22:10.780 Christ is often depicted as a warrior with a sword as well because, you know, there's a time to step up.
01:22:17.520 And when you see something so cardinal and dark, it could be an opportunity for you as a man to step up.
01:22:23.680 Because as a Christian, if we believe there are things called sin, if we believe that the devil is real and actively pursuing us, if you tolerate everything, you don't believe in anything as a Christian.
01:22:34.660 And that's something we have to understand, that we need to be willing to look at these as opportunities to exercise our biblical atonement by enacting something as men.
01:22:45.060 And I think that's a part of it, too, because we can be used.
01:22:49.140 It may not always be sunshines and rainbows, but there is darkness to foot, gentlemen, right?
01:22:55.440 Yeah. Yeah. I think that when it's in your own presence, you address evil.
01:23:02.340 I think it's another thing to organize, mobilize, and go and pursue evil in the world.
01:23:09.000 And I'm not saying that that's wrong. I'm just saying that gets a lot messier.
01:23:13.220 A lot of projections can go into there, for sure.
01:23:15.540 Sure, yeah. But in the presence of evil in front of your own face before your own eyes, you stop it.
01:23:21.040 But what is clear is, you know, the Bible tells us the nations are going to turn on Israel.
01:23:26.240 So we're in no harm of that not coming to pass.
01:23:30.460 Something will be addressed. The nations will turn on Israel.
01:23:34.100 I think the question is, you know, and I think it's just one of those things where you have to lean on God and you have to see what God has in store for you.
01:23:41.780 Because during that time, it's like, what are you doing? Whatever God's plan for you is.
01:23:45.500 Do we trust the words of Jesus as well?
01:23:47.140 Like, one of the words you said before was that we as men shouldn't be so meek.
01:23:53.420 And I think that that's incorrect.
01:23:57.840 You know, the Beatitudes, Jesus specifically tells us, he said, the meek shall inherit the earth.
01:24:01.980 And meek doesn't necessarily mean that I'm cowering in a corner.
01:24:05.000 It means that I have the ability to be extremely dangerous, but I choose not to.
01:24:08.700 And I think that that the characteristic of like having this self-reserve when Jesus is depicted with the sword, he's depicted with the sword because he is the judge.
01:24:19.220 But when you think about him in the temple, when he's flipping the tables and he's like releasing the animals and all that.
01:24:26.880 I think, I mean, people have seen the Chosen series and he's there and he's got the whip and he's flustered, he's angry.
01:24:34.300 But I think in reality, when that happened, I don't think he was angry.
01:24:38.040 I don't think you would describe him as like filled with rage.
01:24:41.060 I think you'd describe him as filled with justice.
01:24:43.780 They're saying, yo, don't do this.
01:24:46.300 I'm flipping your table.
01:24:47.420 This is God's house.
01:24:48.560 But this is a right thing.
01:24:49.180 I absolutely take that correction.
01:24:50.300 Yeah, you're right.
01:24:51.080 You know what I'm saying?
01:24:52.060 Now the question is, how do we get there?
01:24:54.800 Because most of these people, you can't get there with pagans.
01:24:59.380 Okay.
01:24:59.960 White nationalist pagans.
01:25:01.100 Like you have to be of a sound mindset and following Jesus Christ and really understanding that.
01:25:05.340 And I think we're like pretty okay followers of Jesus Christ.
01:25:08.520 And I still don't understand it.
01:25:10.200 So now I'm going to ask these other people to do it.
01:25:13.880 It's rough.
01:25:15.540 But like, again, so something needs to be done for sure.
01:25:18.280 And how?
01:25:19.360 How do we get there?
01:25:20.480 And it's got to be this measured justice.
01:25:22.560 It has to be.
01:25:23.340 This is what God always like doles out that exact equal punishment.
01:25:27.500 Yeah.
01:25:28.020 Always to the T.
01:25:30.200 Exactly what is due.
01:25:31.440 We can't never do that.
01:25:32.340 We're not God.
01:25:33.140 So I'm like, damn, now we're going to like do that.
01:25:34.940 Like we're meaning to do that to God's people.
01:25:37.480 Like, okay, I got to say, though, I'm how I'm glad that we're having this conversation
01:25:41.240 because it's a powerful conversation.
01:25:43.300 It's not one that you're going to hear.
01:25:46.100 I don't know what it's been like on like the spaces for you, Arthur.
01:25:48.620 I've never done.
01:25:49.560 I've done a few spaces.
01:25:50.580 And I'm like, this is a terrible format.
01:25:52.500 It just doesn't work really well.
01:25:54.160 Honestly, I couldn't I couldn't stand it.
01:25:56.780 But I would much rather see people and I hope that we're doing a good job of it.
01:26:02.480 And I hope that others would would do a better job than what we're doing.
01:26:05.440 But it's like, I want to see people have this conversation with with not fear of proclaiming
01:26:11.400 these things, but restraint.
01:26:13.460 That's like just one level to it.
01:26:14.740 Isn't that hilarious?
01:26:15.300 It's like just the one level to even address it.
01:26:17.480 It's like you can't even get past that with most Christians.
01:26:19.800 Right, right.
01:26:20.380 So good luck.
01:26:21.120 The bar for entry is you have to be not afraid to say it.
01:26:23.660 And then you got to say all the slurs.
01:26:25.460 Yes.
01:26:25.700 First, you got to be based.
01:26:28.680 You got to be based.
01:26:29.620 You got to you got to be willing to say the thing.
01:26:32.140 And then we can go, OK, great.
01:26:33.180 Now let's have this conversation.
01:26:34.200 That meekness, right, I think goes even into dialogue, because if you if the word is like
01:26:39.620 a sword, then you can fly off the handle and you can say all the crazy shit and you can
01:26:44.120 call for all the things that you've not thought through.
01:26:46.280 Right.
01:26:46.460 Like I whenever people are like, oh, we need to get out and and, you know, do a regime
01:26:52.800 or whatever the case is.
01:26:53.700 It's like you're a fat lesbian liberal with blue hair.
01:26:57.580 You're incapable of the violence that is required to overthrow a regime like the Trump administration
01:27:02.400 or whatever. And so you're talking out of your ass.
01:27:05.860 And so I first I need to see you unafraid to talk about it.
01:27:09.240 Then I need to see you exercise restraint because I don't want to see that shit where
01:27:13.620 it's like we need to mobilize.
01:27:14.700 We need to do this.
01:27:15.440 We need to get together and get in pickup trucks and get them out of the country.
01:27:19.460 We're not going to do that.
01:27:20.300 Nobody's going to do that.
01:27:20.960 You're not going to do that.
01:27:21.700 The vast majority.
01:27:22.220 And that's just never going to work anyway.
01:27:23.900 So all this talk is going to work.
01:27:25.440 Yeah, it's there's there is this weird predilection towards jumping towards kinetic struggle.
01:27:31.240 And like, I want to avoid that, honestly.
01:27:33.920 Oh, yeah.
01:27:34.400 You can do that if you want.
01:27:35.700 But I'm just letting you know, you're just going to get arrested.
01:27:38.900 Yes, you're just going to get arrested or you're going to get shot in the streets.
01:27:42.620 You know, I'm not one of those people that's like you can't stand up against, you know,
01:27:46.160 the National Guard or whatever militarized police force there is.
01:27:49.400 Like, I do think that the numbers you have, but it's like you're not built for that.
01:27:53.140 You're not built for that.
01:27:55.140 You're a martial artist.
01:27:56.060 I've been a martial artist for a long time.
01:27:57.580 One of the things that it taught me was that you don't really want to partake in unmitigated
01:28:03.960 violence, you know, because even when you're winning, it's a horrifying thing to see what
01:28:09.380 you've done to the other person.
01:28:10.700 There's a look in your eyes that I've seen a bunch of times.
01:28:14.620 And it's the look of like, don't hurt me anymore when the other person succumbs.
01:28:18.860 And they're no longer like the normal, upright, charismatic person they just were.
01:28:23.740 And they're like, don't hurt me anymore.
01:28:25.460 There's something that is horrifying.
01:28:27.400 And I don't, you don't like that feeling.
01:28:30.400 You don't want to become this diabolical creature.
01:28:35.620 I didn't want you to stop.
01:28:37.860 You remind me of when I was in college, this drunk guy.
01:28:40.020 He just, he thought he must've got me confused with another Asian guy because we all look
01:28:43.700 alike.
01:28:43.920 But he thought I was talking to his girl and I literally didn't, I literally didn't even
01:28:48.380 know what he was talking about.
01:28:49.380 It must've been some other Asian dude.
01:28:50.360 That's when I have my hair shorter and it comes out to me when I'm leaving to go to my
01:28:53.640 car and he just like trying to scuffle me.
01:28:55.440 I did this one Oshigari on him because he grabbed me and he caught me to a car, right?
01:29:00.560 He pushed me as a bigger, he's a big guy.
01:29:02.400 So I did, I did this inner sweep on him and he doesn't know how to fall.
01:29:06.120 He fell so hard and he's drunk.
01:29:07.980 And I was tipsy too, but he smashes the back of his head really hard.
01:29:11.460 And he looks at me with this look of like, technically right there, I could smash his
01:29:16.040 face with elbows, but I'm like, I don't want to be that guy.
01:29:20.560 Like, you know what I mean?
01:29:22.040 Like, it's like, it's very, I'm putting myself in this shit.
01:29:27.240 Yeah.
01:29:27.520 I don't want to learn to like that feeling where like somebody wants you to stop and you
01:29:31.740 keep going and then you, you derive like value from that.
01:29:35.540 Like you kept going and it feels good.
01:29:37.260 That's a, that's a slippery slope to me, but, but somebody is telling the world you're
01:29:41.040 afraid, you know?
01:29:41.920 Yeah.
01:29:42.380 And that you're a monster, but, but, uh, Nef Hunter in the chat said, your eyes and ears
01:29:46.560 are going to bleed and you're going to shit your pants.
01:29:48.400 That is going to happen.
01:29:49.420 If you go against the military industrial complex and they blap you up with some sort
01:29:52.760 of sound frequency technology and you shit your pants and bleed from your eyes.
01:29:55.920 But like this conversation that we're trying to have, I want to see more people have it.
01:30:02.520 I want to see more people not whipped up in the, I guess what I'm trying to say is the
01:30:06.920 emotion of it.
01:30:07.900 Cause just like you're saying where Jesus is like, I'm flipping these tables because it's
01:30:12.400 doing what needs to be done.
01:30:13.760 Or what you're saying, Arthur, about like, take no joy in hanging the millstone off this
01:30:19.560 pedophile's neck.
01:30:20.620 This is a thing that needs to be done.
01:30:22.580 Abstain from the emotion.
01:30:23.780 And, and I, it's hard to do because the, the conversation has been suppressed for so long
01:30:28.080 and that pressure valve is cracked open and everybody's freaking out.
01:30:31.580 We've gotten to a place now where this conversation has been had at an emotional level.
01:30:35.360 It needs to be had at, at just a logistical level.
01:30:38.340 And we need to start exploring the reality of like, look at history.
01:30:42.100 What is history shown us when, when a people group comes in and maybe gets thrown out of
01:30:45.360 a country 109 times or 110 times?
01:30:48.040 What happens to the people who, who, you know, execute what they perceive as justice?
01:30:52.480 What happens to the people group that hasn't happened to them?
01:30:54.860 What does the Bible say about this people group?
01:30:56.840 What is your real purpose?
01:30:58.360 Is it to rectify what's wrong with the world?
01:31:02.300 And maybe there's something to that.
01:31:03.520 Maybe that's, you know, something that's actually a good goal.
01:31:06.880 But then again, we are called to be in the world and not of it.
01:31:10.300 So how do we weigh those things?
01:31:11.980 Not a lot of people are having these conversations in this kind of a way.
01:31:16.500 And I think what we're showing here, Arthur, is that it's fucking hard.
01:31:22.160 It's really hard.
01:31:23.580 This is deep and it's much easier to consume superficial shallowness.
01:31:26.660 And what you're saying, this is more than anything necessary today, right?
01:31:31.340 I think it's necessary and it is hard.
01:31:33.520 And I feel like, you know, there is this huge dissonance that we all, if we're honest enough,
01:31:41.000 we see saliently, which is this contrast of public and private, right?
01:31:46.040 And in the public persona, we've become little demons.
01:31:50.880 You know, we're all becoming these hateful little demons.
01:31:52.860 Like, and I'll tell you right now, anybody who follows my Twitter, I will basically dial
01:31:57.300 up what I'm saying in a more nefarious manner because of Twitter.
01:32:00.540 But in actual life, I don't, I don't, I don't even get annoyed in traffic, man.
01:32:05.420 You know what I mean?
01:32:05.960 Like, that's, that's the moxie about it, but that's just the nature of the beast.
01:32:09.960 But I would say, yeah, I mean, like, I don't want to sound like Jordan Peterson, clean your
01:32:15.140 room, but the truth of that sentiment, the only reason why he was so moving is because
01:32:19.620 it's best to first get our house in order before we tell everyone how to act.
01:32:22.580 You know, it's like, you know, why, you know, it's, it's about that, um, you have something
01:32:27.800 in your eye and you're talking about something in another person's eye.
01:32:30.220 Right.
01:32:30.500 It's a, that's the sentiment that, that really reflects to me.
01:32:33.880 That's why I stepped away from the internet, not just social media for like three months
01:32:39.200 just to unplug.
01:32:40.460 I was out in the mountains, bro.
01:32:41.600 You know, you know, just, uh, just to, uh, you know, like unplug and ground and get rooted.
01:32:47.660 And I just felt steady.
01:32:51.060 And I feel like that's, what's lacking today.
01:32:53.360 It's all about perturbing people.
01:32:55.840 And there's no singular answer to this, but.
01:33:02.500 Oh, I guess there is to follow God.
01:33:04.820 Right.
01:33:05.040 Yeah.
01:33:05.200 Just to follow God.
01:33:05.880 Well, first and foremost, remove the plank from your own eye.
01:33:08.640 Right.
01:33:09.520 Um, exactly.
01:33:10.320 Like Owen Benjamin says, K, the J in your own heart, pick up your cross, follow Christ
01:33:15.320 in your own room.
01:33:16.720 Yeah.
01:33:17.040 Yeah.
01:33:17.280 It is a great, it's a great expression.
01:33:19.220 Um, but, but that's it.
01:33:21.340 The only things that you could do, it's like the same thing.
01:33:23.700 What do we do about the evil?
01:33:25.380 I don't know.
01:33:25.920 What do you do about the evil that's directly in front of you before your eyes within arm's
01:33:29.340 reach?
01:33:29.640 You extinguish that.
01:33:31.060 What do you do with evil that's taking place on the world stage?
01:33:34.600 Uh, that's a hard question to answer, but I know.
01:33:36.760 Let's throw us in the mirror.
01:33:37.700 And that's something that I share to myself.
01:33:40.700 I'm suking to myself when I say that too.
01:33:42.340 You know, that's just, that is the folly of what it is to be a man.
01:33:45.840 We're born with sin and we have to, um, we need to humble ourselves in that regard.
01:33:52.860 Well, look, Arthur, I think that's a good place to leave it.
01:33:55.780 That's what's going on in the world, right?
01:33:57.140 Yeah.
01:33:57.660 Yeah.
01:33:57.920 It's a wild time, but it's the best time to be alive.
01:34:02.360 Would you want to be alive when like shit was calm in the nineties?
01:34:05.100 Like what you'd be, I mean, what would be the point of you?
01:34:08.000 You, you would, to make artwork that's controversial in a time where like nobody cares or say something
01:34:13.560 that really matters in a time where everyone's like, yeah, whatever, dude.
01:34:17.220 Yeah.
01:34:17.340 We still have like 50 years on MTV.
01:34:20.180 Have you seen TRL?
01:34:21.080 Like nobody gives a shit.
01:34:21.940 Like, nah, man.
01:34:22.300 It was so controlled.
01:34:23.380 So they, they didn't have independent media, like Nephilim death squad and all this shit.
01:34:27.840 So, you know, I actually kind of think about it.
01:34:30.920 They might've been better off.
01:34:31.700 Yeah.
01:34:31.820 I do.
01:34:33.200 They don't need my shit too.
01:34:35.460 What's that dude's name?
01:34:36.460 Um, Carson Daly, Carson Daly, baby.
01:34:38.660 He's in Epstein Fox.
01:34:41.020 I don't know.
01:34:41.640 I'm pretty sure he is.
01:34:42.300 I was actually looking it up.
01:34:43.480 Marshall Mathers is in the market.
01:34:44.440 There's a lot of wild motherfuckers.
01:34:45.520 It's crazy.
01:34:46.420 Yeah.
01:34:46.940 Yeah.
01:34:47.220 Marilyn Manson's in here.
01:34:48.520 Marshall Mathers is in here.
01:34:49.600 What are you going to do?
01:34:50.260 Um, but look, man, I hope that, I hope that people hear this and they're inspired to have
01:34:55.140 more honest, thoughtful conversations that are grounded in reality, but, but more specifically
01:35:00.480 grounded in Christ.
01:35:02.000 And I hope people that listen to this conversation, cause like we're doing a thing where like,
01:35:06.660 like, as we're talking, Arthur's the homie.
01:35:08.120 So we're like, we're saying wild shit to you.
01:35:09.760 You're saying some wild shit back and we know what it is.
01:35:11.880 Refreshing.
01:35:12.240 I just hope that if there's like a person out there, like by the time they get to this
01:35:16.020 here, right.
01:35:16.680 Um, that has endured as is really like endured the full conversation really goes and tries
01:35:22.460 to hear what we said rather than the way we said it or the provocative manner in which
01:35:26.940 we're like presenting these things.
01:35:28.360 But we're bringing to you shit that's on our heart for a long time.
01:35:33.860 Yeah.
01:35:33.980 And we're, I think as human beings, we're doing our best here to like grasp at straws
01:35:39.580 and try to figure something out.
01:35:41.180 Like, I'm not trying to break things down.
01:35:43.060 I don't want to see things get worse.
01:35:44.160 We want to see things get better and we don't know exactly how to do it.
01:35:47.360 So in this conversation, like this is always what it's about.
01:35:50.300 And hopefully people can like bear with him.
01:35:52.340 Really, really try to understand like where someone like Arthur is coming from.
01:35:56.660 Someone like me is coming from someone like David is like what I'm trying to convey to you.
01:36:00.680 That's, that's the most that I could ask for you guys to do.
01:36:02.940 Yeah.
01:36:03.440 And I think that if God could, you know, it probably is, can see it all, right?
01:36:09.480 I think he's happier with the conversation.
01:36:11.420 I don't think we're not meant to wrestle with these things, but I think we're meant to
01:36:14.540 wrestle with them.
01:36:15.520 We're not meant to take an explosive, fantastic position on something that's so big and so
01:36:20.700 important.
01:36:21.840 Something we can't, we can't look at it reductively.
01:36:24.760 We can't reduce it to its simplest forms and say, let's go and kick them all.
01:36:28.640 It's just something goofy.
01:36:29.600 Even though there's no idea of how to execute that plan, what that really means, the ramifications
01:36:33.980 of it.
01:36:34.360 I think God is probably happier when he sees us actually giving a shit and wrestling with
01:36:40.020 something that's, that's this important.
01:36:41.420 It is important and it, and it is not, um, easily answered and it's, uh, but it does, it
01:36:47.720 does require a hard looking at.
01:36:52.660 Yeah.
01:36:53.380 Yeah.
01:36:53.580 I mean, I mean, we need to, uh, remember that we're all children of God and we need to surrender
01:36:58.140 and he's always there for us.
01:37:01.240 We're just not chasing him, although he's chasing us.
01:37:04.320 And we just need to remember that the best we can do is at least be honest in our journey.
01:37:09.640 And that's pretty much all I encourage brother.
01:37:11.680 So, uh, I appreciate this conversation, gentlemen, and hopefully we'll do it in person soon.
01:37:18.660 That'd be cool.
01:37:19.040 Yeah, dude.
01:37:19.740 I would, I would love that.
01:37:20.680 That would be awesome.
01:37:21.760 Um, we got to get you down to the studio.
01:37:23.440 We'll have to get some Arthur Kwan Lee art in here somewhere.
01:37:25.500 Yes, that's right.
01:37:25.920 I started that conversation.
01:37:26.820 Did you guys see this painting I made?
01:37:28.000 Check out this painting.
01:37:28.840 It's, it's, it's, it's, I was looking at it and I was, I was just wishing that my, my wall,
01:37:34.540 if this wallpaper was that painting, I'll be like, that would be sick.
01:37:38.100 How dope is that?
01:37:39.320 I love the detail.
01:37:40.020 Technically it's not done, but it's, it's, I was like, I still want to put it as my backdrop,
01:37:44.380 right?
01:37:44.600 It just.
01:37:45.960 That is killer.
01:37:47.440 How long did that take?
01:37:50.240 Wow.
01:37:50.880 Yeah.
01:37:51.380 How long did that take Arthur?
01:37:52.440 Oh man.
01:37:54.940 You know, there's certain styles that are a lot more, uh, simplistic and I'm not tooting
01:38:00.560 my own horn, but this is a very assiduous effort.
01:38:04.820 My, my approach, it takes like this, this was a couple of months, bro.
01:38:09.980 You know what I'm saying?
01:38:10.460 Like my style takes a while.
01:38:12.220 That's a problem.
01:38:13.440 I love that.
01:38:14.080 It looks like, so you have this underlayment on the, on the bottom left side.
01:38:17.960 I'm trying to figure out how you do this.
01:38:19.620 Like the, the bottom left there looks like these patterns that you, you put these interesting
01:38:23.640 color patterns.
01:38:24.420 And then it seems like as it dries, you're going back the next day.
01:38:28.560 And then like that, that horse is overlaid.
01:38:30.520 That's like the, one of the last things you did, right?
01:38:33.420 Yeah.
01:38:33.880 So, so in my style, what I like to do talking art here, but you know, I could just paint
01:38:39.400 the image, but I want my work to kind of come out the canvas a little bit.
01:38:44.460 So it's like a little structural.
01:38:45.860 So when you get up close, you see like the dimensionality.
01:38:48.700 It's almost like a little bit of a relief.
01:38:51.020 And I wanted to, so like a weird description is that I want it so that if a person hangs
01:38:57.760 up my painting, when the window, the sunlight from the window hits it, they can actually
01:39:03.680 see shadows from the ridges.
01:39:06.180 Yeah.
01:39:06.620 Because I want it to be so structural and so strong and visceral.
01:39:09.580 So it's a distillation of what they symbolically care about.
01:39:12.500 And I'm, I'm basically dedicating all my tutelage towards it.
01:39:15.440 Well, I want it to have a vibration to it.
01:39:19.840 You know what I'm saying?
01:39:20.780 So that's, that's, this is what I love to do, man.
01:39:23.740 I just need God to give me more, more, more commissions.
01:39:27.060 I hear that.
01:39:28.580 Well, where is vibrating?
01:39:29.740 Where can people support you, Arthur?
01:39:31.500 So you can go to arthurquanly.com to see a sample of my art.
01:39:36.760 It doesn't have all my art, obviously.
01:39:38.100 Art websites are more like, like a business card.
01:39:40.240 So you can contact me and you can click collect.
01:39:42.760 If you want to have a consultation call for my art, you can also get some merch on YouTube.
01:39:48.040 It's at Arthur Quan Lee.
01:39:51.060 Instagram is hi.
01:39:52.080 This is Arthur.
01:39:53.100 Twitter is at bad.
01:39:55.260 A Z N B A D A Z N.
01:39:57.880 And that's it.
01:39:58.920 Boom.
01:39:59.300 We got to, I got to follow up.
01:40:00.320 There we go.
01:40:00.660 I'll follow you on, on Instagram.
01:40:02.160 I didn't know.
01:40:03.080 I didn't know where you were at, man.
01:40:04.840 I'm always creating new things, man.
01:40:07.060 I just don't.
01:40:08.980 I'm just not allowed to exist.
01:40:12.040 Don't speak.
01:40:12.700 Like don't see you.
01:40:13.840 You just spoke about vibration.
01:40:15.600 Don't say that.
01:40:16.300 Don't come into agreement with that.
01:40:18.020 Yeah, that's not, that's not true.
01:40:19.580 You can think it, but tell the, tell that, tell that thought to get into the back of your
01:40:23.160 head and we'll see, you know, see what happens.
01:40:24.900 Let God, let God work.
01:40:25.700 Well, honestly, maybe we should figure out how to get Arthur to Bohemian Grove.
01:40:28.800 We could bring, I don't know how, how, how to do a live painting for him, but to get
01:40:35.900 one of his pieces down here and see that in person would be really awesome.
01:40:40.340 But listen, Arthur, thank you for the time, man.
01:40:42.500 This is a great conversation and an important one.
01:40:45.660 I hope somebody takes away something from this.
01:40:48.400 God bless you, gentlemen.
01:40:49.440 We'll talk soon.
01:40:49.960 God bless you, brother.
01:40:50.760 You too, man.
01:40:51.320 And guys, don't forget to obey, submit and comply.
01:40:53.720 I will see you next time.
01:40:54.980 They bred with daughters of men, and they will do it again.
01:41:05.160 The end is written in the book, in the pages they foresaw.
01:41:12.480 Death squad.
01:41:16.240 Death squad.
01:41:20.360 Death squad.
01:41:22.500 Death squad.
01:41:33.740 Death squad.
01:41:35.400 Death squad.
01:41:36.140 When the last trumpet sounds.
01:41:38.760 And the heaven.