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00:26:26.840So, yeah, that's that's my explanation for most of the birthmarks.
00:26:29.640Now, it does get weirder because that is that is the short version.
00:26:33.380And I think that's an easy account for most of them, because 30 percent of these cases seem to have that out of the twenty five hundred that Ian Stevenson recorded.
00:26:39.880Now, there's a second version and it's weirder and much more speculative.
00:26:42.940But we're going to get we're going to use case studies to support it.0.98
00:26:46.160OK, so strategy two for birthmarks is I think they create that shit and just put it on you.0.98
02:01:26.440they're a different whole thing that's very uh david ike yes oh well he loves the channel and
02:01:32.080find out information he does um and then uh even crazier the moon's insides is actually a giant
02:01:38.220central hub called lunar operations command loc that functions as a multi-dimensional
02:01:43.540multinational and diplomatic spaceport with segregated zones for rival human factions and
02:01:49.180et groups so there's some level of uh you know u.s between these groups yeah yeah um and another
02:01:55.440thing this is one of the goofiest apparently ultra terrestrials uts not ets have established
02:02:00.860in the last few decades i think in the 80s and multiple people are saying this with their
02:02:05.080memories recovered that multiple that these uts established in the 80s i think a barrier or shield
02:02:11.140around the entire solar system that is energetically blocking more alien reinforcements
02:02:16.920from coming in or leaving so that that the whole point of this the whole point of this is so that
02:02:22.280if this happens this is saying okay well now the aliens can't bring in more infinite numbers of
02:02:26.460aliens because there's so many out there that you can have a chance of defeating them but we're
02:02:30.280going to keep the ones in so that you know you still have a little struggle so it's it's like
02:02:33.700balancing it it's a prison planet within a prison planet yeah that's so i read it's prison planet
02:02:38.280yeah yeah yeah there's always there's always some layer to that um and i do actually want to read
02:02:44.000okay so this is going to get a little bit more you're going to hear more of like some patterns
02:02:48.500here so there was a doom room uh that fringe ran with doomer daddy who i love both of those people
02:02:54.100by the way um very much so and they did a space with jason sands uh not too long ago and jason
02:03:00.260sands is a big time uh and i very good man not talking shit about him at all love you jason uh
02:03:06.660but he claims to be in the secret space program and the only time he talked about these memories0.54
02:03:09.900in detail was in this one space and he kept saying that he's like i'm only gonna talk about
02:03:13.760this once and i documented the shit out of what he said um and i'm gonna read you some of his
02:03:18.340a little bit of his quote seeing if you see any patterns here because fringe i think aligns with
02:03:23.000me somewhat on this but hasn't plainly uh said it to jason i think yeah fringes is she's too nice
02:03:29.560and i'm not that she's too nice i think she's playing like a massage game yeah i know where
02:03:34.800it's like gradually we're gonna get there um she doesn't want to force her agenda like i am in a
02:03:39.880way that's abrasive and push people away and i totally agree right right that is being the smart
02:03:43.560move but i don't have self-control um so i just want to yeah so jason love you good guy i've tried
02:03:49.740to communicate with him on x he's responded to me but i don't think he actually watched any of the
02:03:52.700material i sent him uh but you know he has some a lot of trauma ptsd from these memories if they're
02:03:58.440real or not yeah he said it's also a retired air force veteran yeah yeah 45 years as a defense
02:04:03.780contractor uh uap whistleblower okay all right yeah and so he only talked about this once and
02:04:10.060he's talking about at this moment his secret space program type missions such as eliminating
02:04:15.000reptilian groups with advanced guns hell or rescuing humans off planet who were abducted
02:04:20.280in some slave trade i guess uh more crazy stuff and then fringe asks jason if these missions have
02:04:25.180any dream like material or non-physical elements or you know astral stuff yeah and or drugging you
02:04:31.000know stuff like that and he says no there's no drugging involved it's more like paralysis and
02:04:34.940quote, he says, the ability for some of these NHI to switch you off. All I remember is being in one
02:04:41.320place at one point where I was in my bed or in a facility and having some awareness and then being
02:04:46.200switched off. The next thing I know I'm in a helicopter, another kind of convey or another
02:04:50.500kind of conveyance, or if it was an NHI craft, I think sometimes that that is the case. I was one
02:04:56.020of, I was one of them. And then I'd be switched on. I'd already be moving towards the objective
02:05:00.760and somehow telepathically or mentally, I already had a picture in my head telling me
02:05:04.540where to go uh what the first objective was and what i was supposed to do the only part i where
02:05:09.760i had more freedom autonomy was actual hand-to-hand combat so he just admitted that these nh are
02:05:17.860turning him on and off in these ssp programs uh and he just is one in one place and then the next
02:05:22.100and he's already moving there sounds a lot like turning on one illusion or or uh remember the
02:05:26.200switching in the astral just one one road to the next what would you call it a simulation
02:05:30.320yeah that's exactly what i'm saying this is it's the same thing uh and he only has a little bit he
02:05:35.380he's telepathically uh controlled or or intuitively driven the entire time and then the time when he
02:05:42.020has full autonomy is like combat which you know they're gonna play it out how they want i've heard
02:05:46.100stories like this on the confessionals where uh guys claim to have these like really fantastic
02:05:51.300experiences even a kind of a military nature to them in these in this you know dream realm they
02:05:56.560would go to sleep and they would live this entire other life as an operative with vivid you know
02:06:01.700vivid memories and and missions and things like that and a coherence and consistency yeah exactly0.94
02:06:06.540it's not just your subconscious being silly that weird rambo dude right that's right yeah the weird
02:06:10.600rambo dude is one of those guys i've heard other ones that are a little bit more on the mythical0.72
02:06:14.200side um kind of knights and dragons lord of the ring style you know um experiences that are
02:06:20.780consistent from one experience to the next and there's characters that recur and there's missions
02:06:24.540and that they you know have to pick up again when they go back to sleep like you didn't complete the
02:06:29.780whole thing so you got to get and they align with other people's they have a consistent yes and
02:06:32.960there's people that are there you know so so i've heard this sort of thing before yeah but um it0.96
02:06:37.920should raise massive alarms like what the fuck do you mean all of a sudden you're coming to and0.78
02:06:42.100you're already in route you're already you know being piloted were you possessed before that or0.98
02:06:48.440were you like that's alone a big enough red flag or or why were you unconscious but moving around
02:06:53.320and doing stuff exactly it's just it's just like i'm starting a scene of a movie at one part that
02:06:57.420you choose to and that's this guy this guy jason sands good guy yeah i mean you know probably dude
02:07:02.660who the hell is going to see through that you know what i mean like you have these experiences yeah
02:07:06.640the whole astral thing remember you know how often they said it felt realer than reality yeah that's
02:07:11.040you've got to keep that in mind and the people when they relive these past life memories they
02:07:14.060feel like their own because they're it's so powerful sure and you don't have you've never
02:07:18.200understood that power because you don't you don't have a lot of spiritual experiences and then you
02:07:20.740have these and then you're like oh this is uh my disturbance yeah this guy is literally a combat
02:07:25.420veteran and a defense contractor this is a dude who lived a lot of life by the book in very
02:07:31.820predictable and logical fashions and he was threatened to join he was threatened his family
02:07:36.220was threatened i feel bad for him but he was tricked into this and uh they probably thought
02:07:40.720he was a good target for this type of material uh you know they're and you don't have to be super
02:07:46.020gullible to buy into this stuff as an experiencer because it's so powerful so i'm not calling him
02:07:49.640gullible i'm just saying they're not gonna pick people who are and he's a christian but he believes
02:07:54.300like the aliens are literal and the reptilians are literal hey dude on top of all that it's like
02:07:58.300good luck convincing somebody that this isn't like you know a good thing or it's a deception0.92
02:08:03.520when you're doing fundamentally badass shit like that's what makes it even crazier right like you're0.90
02:08:08.320an operative who's you know bf in non-human intelligences like yeah this is crazy dude yeah0.62
02:08:13.060but they described it as so traumatic at times that and like reliving it is traumatic and they're
02:08:16.520like they would heal a lot easier i think if they knew this and didn't believe in it because it
02:08:20.760would take away the power it has over them i think and the uh probably and the uh reminders from you
02:08:25.260know whatever influence spiritually they're having which obviously is something to be getting these
02:08:28.300downloads yeah so also i didn't finish because i said uh or i was gonna get to after that he after
02:08:34.160he says that that whole quote fringe at says she's been in similar scenarios and asks if he knows if
02:08:39.520he was in his body and he says whether i was in my own body or an avatar i couldn't tell you and
02:08:44.980he also says when i felt pain it was real pain and you know reminder anybody who watched episode
02:08:49.360one death and dismemberment ritual they can simulate the real pain as well yeah i've had
02:08:53.280dreams where shit hurt real bad exactly yeah there's no there's no difference there and it
02:08:56.560doesn't always but i think it's selective up to whoever entity is facilitating it decides0.94
02:09:00.620and then regarding the memory of these events he said it's pretty fragmentary because of all the
02:09:05.180turning on and off just reminding you they're constantly turning you on and off starting you
02:09:08.640at a certain point of importance yeah if they can control you to get you there why don't they just
02:09:12.440finish this off with your body if they need your body and if they're so advanced why aren't they
02:09:15.760using robots for all this stuff why are they doing all this soul travel yeah metaphysical stuff and
02:09:20.820this time travel and age regression when they can use robots for this but it's also the energy that
02:09:24.040it takes to render the experience right like just jump them to the next scene no exactly yeah so
02:09:28.780yeah it's just the switching things so that's very much in the astral connection so yeah the
02:09:33.860ssp stuff is crazy and bananas and it's very gnostic it's very gnostic and dan duvall with
02:09:38.240all the stuff he's pushing his healings the recovered stuff it is bridging to this whole
02:09:42.260concept yeah he mentions the mining operations that people talk about in ssp memories where they
02:09:46.880were a slave on a mining uh on a on a on a uh moon in serious colony uh or series colony whatever it
02:09:54.160is and they were like they worked there as a slave as a miner for years they don't remember every
02:09:58.600little detail of every year there but they get fragments so all you got to do is give them a
02:10:02.180fragment of a storyline and then you're like okay well that's what obviously was happening to me for
02:10:05.100years um so yeah now here's the biggest weird note in the uh in the ssp stuff that is this is why
02:10:13.660i thought well i think this is the biggest evidence in my opinion in a convoluted way
02:10:19.040for trumping the antichrist by the way because in this lore everybody pushes that trump is a white0.99
02:10:24.180hat like the q anon shit they say that he's a white hat and he is going to lead disclosure0.96
02:10:28.900they've been saying this for years interesting years like i think it's they started saying this0.99
02:10:33.080and it might have been before his first administration but it was definitely during
02:10:36.280his first administration wow so early years ago and they're saying that he is working with the
02:10:41.420nordics no literally yeah the good the good aliens yeah and that he is and multiple people said this
02:10:47.260and they're pre-programming this whole thing and my whole view of that was okay well if they're
02:10:50.980pre-programming this thing that he's a white hat playing 5d chess yeah which i'm not saying there's
02:10:54.480no 5d chess i just think it's all demonic uh but there is some elaboracy going on here and people0.99
02:10:58.700go oh he's a moron he's a retard i'm like you don't fumble your way like a retard to the top1.00
02:11:02.860like this and have all these complicated things happening because you're dumb you're you're1.00
02:11:06.320acting because you're demonically powered you don't do it twice either you don't do it twice0.99
02:11:10.140yeah so the whole people thinking he's retarded i'm like dude you're not gonna you're gonna be0.99
02:11:14.500deceived by these psyops coming because they they're like oh he's so dumb for faking assassination0.97
02:11:18.020in the dumbest way the first one's more believable and i'm like dude they want you to believe this0.93
02:11:22.120for many reasons um but anyway we'll we'll talk about that later so they do say this though and0.76
02:11:28.780they say his name, not his, not just everybody else. Yeah, please do. Um, they say his name
02:11:33.520and, uh, consistently. So I thought, Oh my God, it's just like Q and on. They're trying to get
02:11:38.660any of the deep conspiracy researchers. They're trying to like neutralize them from figuring out
02:11:43.620he's the antichrist. Cause he has so many of the boxes he's checking and they're trying to get
02:11:47.620ahead of it. So any of the deep conspiracy researchers will find this and go, Oh, he's
02:11:51.200just playing 5d chess. And that's what the Q and on stuff was saying, which was by now we know an
02:11:55.180op uh you know by feds and probably demonically powered for the false prophecies they were giving
02:12:00.140um but it's it's hard for me to flow on this right now i'm getting crazy in my brain anyway
02:12:07.020it's that was just a big sign to me that oh they're pre-programming some protection of this
02:12:11.420man yeah there's there's been a lot of stuff with trump the whole way along that you know even the
02:12:15.820whole you leave little breadcrumbs like the ingersoll lockwood book yeah the time traveling
02:12:19.440trump thing they're gonna use all of that is like they're they're doing a thing on purpose and they
02:12:24.280want you to figure out like you're you're cracking some yes 100 which is why people interesting
02:12:28.780admission the other day with i think laura trump or whoever the transgender trump is the trans
02:12:35.000trump yeah it would appear so to me okay i don't know this they uh she said something like uh oh
02:12:42.600you know the little baron trump stuff can't be real if people believe that also believe that
02:12:47.400like we didn't go to the moon and 9 11 was an inside job it's like everything i believe i'm
02:12:52.660just kind of like well that's a really weird like group to put that in yeah because it's like those
02:12:57.280things were obviously true 9-11 was obviously an inside job yeah so now yeah it's like a weird
02:13:02.880kind of backward admission but i think it's also one of those things where they want you to grab
02:13:07.620onto that yeah and go oh seth let's let's let's pick a spot to yeah we're gonna bring it in for
02:13:13.500a landing okay i'm running out of gas and also my back is i understand i didn't think the seating
02:13:17.940arrangement through listen i'm coming up near the end but this is my most important stuff i want to0.88
02:13:21.620talk about can i go for like maybe 12 15 minutes i think that's a reasonable amount of time fucking0.99
02:13:27.300kill me i'm holding my piss and shit just like you are bro yeah well all right this is the stuff0.98
02:13:31.900i really wanted to get to okay all right so that is all i hope makes sense to you uh i want to talk0.99
02:13:37.400about my labs for a minute which is if anybody doesn't know it's military abductions where people
02:13:42.700who are abducted by aliens will soon after their alien abduction get abducted by government
02:13:46.880operatives who work with aliens simultaneously in underground bases and they will be taken to
02:13:52.200these labs and be questioned and interrogated to find out what they basically information they
02:13:57.600might gather from their abduction which usually they're usually their memories are wiped right
02:14:01.280so like how much can you gather but i just want to add to the fact that i'm going to do this shortly
02:14:06.100but i believe that my lab's memories i don't know about all of them but i think that they are more
02:14:11.220than likely simulations and implanted memories as counter intel and we're going to get these people
02:14:15.440aren't having interactions in these bases and such uh i don't believe that no i think some people
02:14:21.140have base yeah underground bases you know programming whatever but i think that the
02:14:25.140specific my labs project has signs of disinformation fake memories and the reason i'm going to say that
02:14:30.720is because i'm going to read what they say to people and you're going to you're going to see
02:14:34.980some patterns here that kind of may might sound a little uh weird so these are some of the questions
02:14:41.300according to the book what is the book called my labs military mind control and alien abduction by
02:14:46.440helmet and marion lammer so they are these are joint operations with ets and humans apparently
02:14:52.820and it's obviously the aliens are in charge here but they try to play it like they're both in
02:14:58.360charge and it's like not really so these are some of the questions they'll be interrogated on just
02:15:02.720keep in mind this is uh happening to a lot of people they say what did they show you did they
02:15:06.920mentioned any timelines or bases any implants timelines just keep keep that in mind okay uh
02:15:13.980then they'll ask what did the aliens tell you about their plans for earth or did they give
02:15:18.640you any messages for the government or world leaders uh what kind of tv show am i watching
02:15:24.040is this really do they not all work for satan like what is this um describe any devices or
02:15:29.300symbols they showed you do you know what they do or are you aware of any foreign objects in
02:15:33.020your body from them uh and six symbols it's a little close to sigils here that's interesting
02:15:37.880uh did they mention any other groups or beings reptilians nordics or anything like that what
02:15:42.800year or place did they say they came from they're trying to get intel on the other aliens pretending
02:15:47.640to be a different alien faction these are multiple factions it's trying to plant that lore talk about
02:15:52.820timelines talk about uh other species factions they're trying to so that when you come back and
02:15:57.820tell the story you are promoting the literal expansive aliens theory and all they have to do
02:16:03.240is give you a fake memory that is also traumatic and you know can you know get you in a lot of
02:16:07.620dark head spaces and keep you even more programmed for more and if you believe it you're going to
02:16:12.280probably get more and i'm not saying the abduction experiences aren't real but we know there's tons
02:16:15.340of astral just as much as physical if not more who knows because they could make them seem physical
02:16:19.740yeah they're gonna they're gonna look for candidates who are receptive yes exactly and
02:16:22.980They can read your mind, and I think that the MyLab stuff is, I don't know about all of it, but I'm going to say if they're asking questions like that, they're not going to get any intel that way.
02:16:32.300They're already working for one source, and if you disagree with that, you're going to be far behind.
02:16:36.120Also, it's a terrible mode to look for intel because you're leading the subject.
02:16:41.660If you want good, clean information, you have to allow them to come to these conclusions or say something like that.
02:16:47.120you can't just say uh what about alternate timelines what about you know technologies and
02:16:52.220symbols and other species and it's like you have to let them get there because if you think that
02:16:57.160you might have led them into it your information's now that's what everything is built upon is is
02:17:01.400letting you think you came up with it yourself and then when people tell these memories which
02:17:04.700they're allowed to keep by the way some of the time they're just sharing disinformation so that
02:17:08.940you hear that and go oh there must be multiple factions and timelines and all this but that's
02:17:12.660the idea they're trying to submit in my opinion and that's why i led to the this is fake and also
02:17:16.660it's a huge project for terrible intel gathering and the roi again they have yeah a lot of resources
02:17:23.000and money and black projects are pretty crazy funded but that is a crazy move and risky move
02:17:28.340uh for minimal roi and you're letting people keep quite a few of these memories which is just
02:17:32.940interesting so that's what i think is going on now keeping on the train of reverse psychology
02:17:37.440uh memories that are implanted i think as disinformation tactics this is where i have
02:17:42.300to bring up a certain name out here uh emma catherine i love you we emailed recently and
02:17:47.780uh you were very nice to me but you kind of went off on me a little bit for giving out the whole
02:17:52.260idea of implanted memories by demons she is not a fan of that and you know she's an angel sent
02:17:57.220from heaven i have nothing negative to say about her i'm just putting it out there what she believes
02:18:01.100i think is uh a little bit flawed and part of the disinformation tactic and i think people would be
02:18:06.200a lot uh more inclined to healing from these things easier if they knew these were false
02:18:10.300memories that were demonically implanted. And this is what I believe. Now I got an email chain
02:18:14.460with her and was basically asking, I wanted to come on the show, but I knew she doesn't hardly
02:18:18.580have anybody on without a testimony, but sometimes she will. And I was like, I really just want you
02:18:22.400to talk to me and understand this and watch my interviews so that you can understand this is
02:18:25.960possible. Cause I don't know what she believed. And I brought up the whole, uh, you know, secret
02:18:31.800space program and water kingdom memories and all these crazy outlandish things. I'm like,
02:18:37.700you don't believe these right like these are these are implanted demonic memories for
02:18:40.680disinformation tactics and she got offended by that and said no there is no way demons can implant
02:18:45.920false memories which by the way they've admitted that ghosts can the ghosts themselves so we know
02:18:50.100that some spirits can and if they're not ghosts then they are totally fabricated you're saying
02:18:54.360according to the lore of this yes yeah yeah so so she's had the most conversations with you know
02:18:59.840sramk victims and she's doing a great work getting the word out there but these people who are you
02:19:04.660put in this satanic ritual abuse and demonically oppressed they are getting opened to being
02:19:09.620downloaded with false memories they're perfect and primed for it so and i think part of the reason
02:19:14.280it is is because they give them these crazy memories not only to create disinformation for
02:19:17.520people who believe it but most people are going to hear that stuff and and go oh well all the
02:19:21.660satanic abuse must be made up too because there's no way they're doing secret space program stuff
02:19:25.580which is reasonable so it's a win-win because if you believe it you believe disinformation if you
02:19:29.400don't believe it you disbelieve the whole entire story so it's a that so planting these memories
02:19:33.940have multiple layers to them and multiple benefits for the agenda so i told her i said hey
02:19:38.860these are demonically impressed and i'm not saying all of it is i'm not saying the victim abuse is
02:19:44.780at all and i think she understood and she said no the explanation and i'm trying not to butcher
02:19:50.340what she said but she basically said the explanation for these false memories because
02:19:53.940she doesn't believe they're all real it seemed to be but she she said no they're not deceived
02:19:58.640they're not tricked by fake memories this is the source of hollywood studio scripts actors and
02:20:05.180props and drugging the experiencer to get into trance states to be receptive and then they go
02:20:10.920through these scenarios while they're in this state and they have a whole movie put on for them
02:20:15.580to live out these fake scenarios and that whenever their memory remember whenever their memory is
02:20:20.880activated to remember these things they build it in a way that makes sense to them by constructing
02:20:24.860this cohesive realistic narrative even though clearly it didn't have the same level of production
02:20:29.720value as the real deal i mean i would say that there's some of that for sure i'm not denying it
02:20:35.000happens in some degree yeah but i'm i'm saying to account for all the ssp the water kingdom where
02:20:40.960you're a freaking mermaid underwater right and you remember and i'm talking about like one example of
02:20:44.980ssp memory is tony rodrigues in his book talks about being on mars and getting lost from his0.97
02:20:50.660group and he's attacked by this giant space spider thing that chops his arm off and he's crawling
02:20:56.040for hours to his base and he makes it and they regenerate some arm for him uh and i'm like i
02:21:02.520don't know how you and he's crawling for hours with his bleeding out and i and he like he like
02:21:06.340so he like covers it with some uh yeah i mean there are people that i'm aware of in the case
02:21:10.700of that rambo guy top like these people are just going to sleep on a regular day like there's
02:21:14.600people that are entering these realms when they're dreaming and they're having these like places where
02:21:19.520they go and have this experience and they're mission driven like we talked about before
02:21:22.400it doesn't seem like there's any removal of the individual in fact a lot of the time these people
02:21:28.400seem to be like uh i don't know rural country bumpkins that aren't getting cia assets driving
02:21:36.400up and kidnapping them in the night taking them to some sort of studio and then bringing them back
02:21:40.660to their bed when some of these people i remember listening to they're like we've had these
02:21:44.540experience reliably nightly for months and months and months sometimes years of going on the mission
02:21:50.580you know wherever it is that they're going when they're dreaming I'm like I don't think so I think
02:21:53.840um I think something is happening in a spiritual realm or not a spiritual realm but I mean it you
02:22:00.480know we get into that whole conversation but I don't think everything is a physical studio I
02:22:05.420think that sometimes these people are taken and and like they might have something that looks like
02:22:09.760a gray and it might be like a foggy memory when they actually did something to you but I don't
02:22:13.760think that accounts for i'm not denying that happens but so for that to make sense uh like
02:22:17.840how do you explain all these reincarnation memories are you saying if those aren't demonically
02:22:21.200impressed then you're saying all these two to four year olds are on these small little villages
02:22:24.960all over the world are taking a little bases and drugged and put under these things and parents
02:22:28.460don't know they're gone uh you know some parents sign their kids up but you know i'm just saying
02:22:32.100there's so many crazy memories when you read the ssp lore and the water kingdom stuff which the
02:22:36.580water kingdom is much less common they're so elaborate i can't make sense of how this could
02:22:41.180make sense if if especially if you're drugged in some sort of trance state while you're experiencing
02:22:44.980this you have a lot of autonomy in these memories you're doing a lot yeah you're having relationships
02:22:48.820you're not just like a zombie you know going down having things happen to you it's like passive
02:22:52.540memories it just doesn't make sense and the structure of it now so then i asked her i said
02:22:57.040okay well do you what did i ask her by the way ari shafir did salvia and lived an entire life
02:23:06.280under the sea had a family and a job and the experience felt like it lasted months time
02:23:11.640dilation right and then he comes back and of course it's only a few minutes because that's
02:23:14.900what salvia is and that was people have whole lives as air conditioners where it feels like
02:23:18.700full life nobody took salvia has its own archetypes just like dmt has its own archetypes0.99
02:23:22.560nobody took ari nobody took ari nobody put him in a hollywood studio like this motherfucker just0.98
02:23:26.100did salvia exactly and was hanging around with his friends they watched him thank you yeah what0.95
02:23:30.480i mean so like if that can happen on salvia then it tells you not everything is going to be and it
02:23:35.920was an underwater experience too so you know yeah exactly so i'm just i asked her i said uh
02:23:41.260okay well are you getting this hollywood studio story from any whistleblowers who are part of
02:23:45.780these projects because obviously that's a huge project for all these people to be doing all
02:23:49.360these storylines it is a huge project and i asked her i was like is there any whistleblowers coming
02:23:52.900out because there's whistleblowers for like everything now and to be such a big project
02:23:56.060there's got to be one or two i looked deeply online she didn't answer that question directly
02:23:59.520but she kind of surpassed it and i looked online for hours and hours and hours couldn't find a
02:24:04.320single person so then it's like okay well then she's saying no victims are saying they're getting
02:24:09.200memories of waking up in a studio with actors and props now if they're recovering memories
02:24:14.000and maybe they didn't believe their ssp memory or their fake moon trip memory which they have
02:24:19.100maybe they're questioning it okay damage control demons now can implant a false flag memory just
02:24:24.660like the pattern of the of the other stuff where they're implanting a memory of them waking up in
02:24:29.420a studio with hollywood characters and then go oh that's what that was and then it normalizes all
02:24:35.220the crazy ssp lore and they're like oh that makes sense so for the people who are already doubting
02:24:38.920it they are getting catered to in a way that makes sense but that's a false flag in and of itself
02:24:43.440and i said this to her and i gave her an example and i i referenced you remember when i talked
02:24:47.740about becky joy anderson sleep paralysis thing and the whole fabricated room how they're fabricating
02:24:51.500the astral room and watch episode one if you want to hear about that in detail um she talks about
02:24:55.920your sleep paralysis is actually your astral body frozen and i didn't talk about the story but
02:25:00.240a testimony i've heard of multiple times is that in these sleep paralysis episodes which are
02:25:04.180probably simulations where your astral body is frozen people will see gray aliens not always
02:25:09.100shadow people but gray aliens and sometimes they'll be like oh oh they can see me oh no and
02:25:13.320the gray alien will push a button on their belt a technological button and they'll shape shift into
02:25:17.540a shadow person and what is that what idea does that present to you okay well it must be
02:25:21.620this is a physical phenomenon and all shadow people must be aliens come here which a crazy
02:25:26.480roi by the way for their work efforts uh just to spook people and freak them out in the sleep state
02:25:31.840um there's multiple people have said this so i'm like they're using fake simulations to make you
02:25:36.940think that the phenomena is more physical and more technological which i'm not saying it's not
02:25:42.140but it gets into jordan joseph jordan who says that um this is a spiritual uh phenomenon
02:25:49.940masquerading as a physical one yeah now there are physical aspects of the nephilim in the
02:25:54.340spacecraft but i think much more of it much more of it is simulation than we think and and that is
02:25:59.120kind of an effort to make it feel more physical right they want you to buy into the physical
02:26:02.800thing and they want you to remember these things and come out and tell people so it gets into the
02:26:05.960cultural storyline so people say oh i saw in my sleep process i saw gray he he he messed up he1.00
02:26:10.940was not shape-shifted oh he's gonna mess up and you're gonna catch him like he's that stupid yeah0.99
02:26:15.120multiple times no he's it's a false flag planting a fake story so that you uh you come to the0.99
02:26:21.100conclusion on your own instead of being propagandized it's the same pattern so i said this
02:26:25.040to her i gave her that whole story i said hey that's an example i don't know if you know vicky
02:26:28.000joy but that's what her work and does that make sense to you and she kind of didn't really respond
02:26:32.280to that directly and she just kind of got mad and denied the whole thing and i don't blame her at
02:26:36.720all she's her heart's in the right place but i want i need this point to get across and i i was
02:26:41.400tell them gray the same thing and i said can you can you guys watch these interviews and make sure
02:26:45.660that you know this is possible because it's right even if i'm wrong it makes sense and of course
02:26:50.100it's possible you know all you have to do is just like i said look at the re thing yeah exactly
02:26:54.780that's one of many examples we could bring up yeah but it's a really simple one it's a really
02:26:58.100popular one and really how many people are doing salvia and having these types of experiences no
02:27:02.840you know cia uh operatives involved no movie set no hollywood style effects or anything like that
02:27:08.340they're just going there so um well look we got to bring it in for a landing because i'm just
02:27:12.320sat on there like a baby and my back is killing me and uh and top is asleep now and so uh we gotta
02:27:19.800we have to bring this in is there anything that you want to say in closing don't make me regret
02:27:23.360that question you know uh i'll i'll think of someone to plug later in another episode but uh
02:27:29.700yeah i guess uh please buy my book guys i don't really need the money but i want to get the word
02:27:34.020out vision control or share my podcast with people uh who are deceived in these various ways uh
02:27:39.880because i think this overall almost nine hours of work i've given to y'all with these last few
02:27:44.140interviews is like a cohesive model that covers the majority of this stuff and i think it's uh
02:27:50.800explains all this it would be very funny to do a thing where um uh you know he won't listen to us
02:27:56.460but especially because he blocked top top blocked him but everybody should go to jordan crowder's
02:28:01.000page and be like everything you believe is bullshit and seth kicklighter's book addresses0.74
02:28:05.020the vast majority of it uh you're so mad you're being deceived yeah that would be a lot of fun0.96
02:28:10.220uh yeah you guys go do that even if it doesn't yield any fruit it'll still be fun i don't like
02:28:14.760that guy yeah you know i liked it better when he was a alcoholic um apparently he was before
02:28:21.560so all right well let's uh let's guys don't forget go and where the hell is amazon it's
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