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2 hours and 12 minutes
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193.59102
Summary
On this week's episode of Disagreements to Agree, Topolobster and co-hosts David Lee Corbo (The Hard Intro) and Jonathan (The Rat) discuss the current state of the Jewish people.
Transcript
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad, the show with the hardest intro.
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No, that's just what I had to say to get you out of bed and into the office.
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You don't get up for anything except for talking about the Jews these days.
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Before we do that, though, not talking about the Jews,
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patreon.com forward slash Nephilim Death Squad, that's where you want to go if you want to support us.
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You could be one of these guys in the live chat, which is awesome.
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Early access to tickets from Bohemian Grove, for Bohemian Grove, at Bohemian Grove, whenever
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And we've got to respond to Laura Baker's email because she said she's coming.
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She's got to be certain, but she's pretty sure she's coming.
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So, also, discount codes off merchandise from toplobster.com.
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Disagree to Agree is back, and they promised to talk about the Jews.
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But before we get into that, we have to talk about where you can find them.
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You can find us on Rumble.com at Disagree to Agree.
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You'll also find our individual Twitters at Meep, at Season of the Rat on Twitter, and
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Subliminal Messenger at Manuel Labor on Twitter.
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How do you feel about that, Subliminal Messenger?
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If you don't like when another man does your plugs, I respect that.
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But if it's okay with you, I respect that, too.
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I'm going to plug Eamon's album, Escape Saturn, later.
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Now that we've got, now that we're all sufficiently plugged.
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So what are we, we were told that we were going to talk about chaos, which we took as
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But before the show started, you kind of said, like, that's not exactly what's going to happen
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I don't know what angle we're going to come at it from.
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Well, first off, I just want to say congratulations, Raven.
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You look like about, you've lost about two and a half pounds since we last talked.
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And congratulations on nabbing the debate with Timothy Albarino.
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You look like you've been scratching your own butthole.
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He did a thing to me and I don't deal well with criticism.
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I have lost some weight and I appreciate that, Eamon.
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And I have nabbed a debate with Indiana Moans, Timothy Albarino.
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Well, yeah, and I don't know how that's going to go and I don't know if it's going to be
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a debate because I plan on murdering a man on the live stream.
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You guys are never talking to Timothy Albarino?
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But in order to do that, I have to read the app.
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It's like it's more of like translating the pretentious English.
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So if he brings a lot of pictures, I'll understand what he's saying.
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Well, that's the thing is I talked about this in the earlier show.
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He said that he was going to bring his receipts.
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And I just think it's a fascinating thing to bring receipts about a topic that up until
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the past like five or six years ago was considered pseudoscience and lacked anything that was
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Like it's just interesting to say we're going to talk about spiritual entities and when they're
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physical, when they're spiritual, interdimensional.
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Well, I think the problem there is that it's like number one.
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You're not going to be able to bring any concrete receipts.
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And then the concrete receipts that we do bring are discarded.
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Like there are a number of people who have interviewed on the show on some shows and
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And then and there are also people whose testimony has been basically thrown away.
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So it's like, OK, so which which receipts are valid?
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I think I'll just bring Michael Heiser's book and I'll be like, here we go.
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It ties in with what we're going to talk about today.
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But what we did is kind of continue from our last episode.
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If you guys remember the last episode, we we kind of gave you a breakdown of this number
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This is nine, two, three or nine, three, two or six, three, two combination that shows
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up in a lot of apocalyptic symbolism that's in modern media and such where we continue digging
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into there and mostly formed from the looking into the Illuminati card game.
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And I and I asked the top is a very spiritually guarded.
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Unopened packs of original Illuminati cards for sale on Facebook market.
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And he said, no, I don't want that demonic shit in here.
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And so I didn't I think it would have been a good purchase.
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Before we head into that, because that actually does remind me the.
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Illuminati card pack does remind me of the Jews.
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It's inspired by something current today that is actually really funny.
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You know, the was is the last chance card with Trump and it has like the line going.
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Donald Trump is in the news today doing the most Donald Trump thing that he can ever do.
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OK, I'll just read it to you really quickly if I can read it.
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Well, I would have to get somebody else to read it.
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So Rob Reiner was murdered, killed by his son with a knife, I believe, and his wife as well in their Hollywood home.
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However, Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling but once very talented movie director and comedy stars, passed away together with his wife, Michelle, reported due to the anger he caused through others.
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He caused others through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome.
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So I and people are like, here, this guy here is a right wing guy.
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It does remind me a lot of that that actress Reese getting murdered.
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I was so excited to uncork that on you, Eamon Ratt.
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Just that it reminded me Trump's back in the news again for possibly the funniest thing he said in seven years or something like that.
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And he's just like, this guy had Trump derangement syndrome.
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You guys are bringing in Trump derangement syndrome and the recent murder of Robert Reiner.
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Has he been dog walking us down this path since the show started?
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It's a Greek translation down to revealing Eris because we're revealing chaos.
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Eris is Discordia, the goddess of chaos, the primordial goddess born from primordial chaos
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through Nyx, the mother of darkness, creating Eris, one of the goddesses that you might have
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These are two names that I'm only peripherally familiar with.
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They ring a little bit of a bell in my head, but otherwise, that's where the book stops.
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So Nyx is the mother of darkness, the primordial mother of darkness, one of the older Greek
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And she birthed a whole bunch of different gods, and they're usually considered chaotic
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So these gods and goddesses that she birthed, one of them being Eris, was the goddess of
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The reason why this is relevant, how this ties to our last presentation is because 3i Atlas
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He drops golden apples from the Garden of Hera.
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These apples are used in this mythology to start the Trojan War by Eris Discordia.
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She's involved in a mythology where she's not invited to a wedding.
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So the myth of Eris, the most famous myth, is there is a wedding on Mount Olympus.
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Well, Eris, angrily, through planned deceit and trouble, she made a golden apple.
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And she wrote, this goes to the most beautiful woman.
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She threw it onto the, into the, the, the wedding.
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Uh, those three goddesses all fought over this golden apple.
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Uh, they, they were like, oh, that, the Ferris, that's obviously me.
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And it eventually, long story short, led to the Trojan War.
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What, do you have any, any theories as to what the, I mean, it's, it's a golden apple.
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Have you stumbled upon any significance as to like what this apple did?
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Cause I, just to put, you know, give you where my mind's going.
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When we talked to Jordan Crowder, he was on the show.
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We talked about three eye Atlas and this idea that these interstellar objects, they heralded
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a time of like great change, like a big moment.
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So, so it suggests that like, whatever comes off of this object is, it's got a cosmic energy
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about it that changes, you know, something, the perception of humanity, yada, yada.
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Um, anything about these apples that's like, it's more than just an apple.
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And, and I wish I could answer that because that would be awesome to know what that golden
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an apple meant, but it's more symbolic for desire, like an ultimate desire.
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You can also, I think, equate it to the, the, the, the tree in the garden, right?
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Because that, that fruit often gets, uh, mixed up with an apple, but it's never designated as
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I've done a little look into the word apple and the etymology of it and where it comes from.
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And essentially back in the day, no, the apple just meant fruit.
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It was an unnamed, like, like you call any fruit in apple, like that's an apple, like
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If they didn't have a word for banana, that would, that would, that's, that's an apple.
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So it's just like a word for the fruit that a tree bears.
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He, um, he tricks Atlas to hold up the, the heavens and he steals the apple from the
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So are you telling me that this thing makes you like a God?
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I believe it's, it, it causes chaos amongst these, uh, uh, deities, right?
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Uh, while, while Eris and discord continues to just cause chaos among, uh, along the land.
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And this is like an old mythology that, um, there's an ancient Greek, but it develops
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And it's kind of the source of all our, uh, the chaos that we live in today is kind of
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why we have to, to turn up, put this into place here.
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This is like the golden ring on a carousel, right?
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Like, so you're saying that, uh, you got these characters on there, they're reaching out,
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but realistically they're just in a carousel while the operators are having an orgy outside.
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It's the spirit, the spirit, uh, of chaos, I guess.
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The best way to describe the apple is it, you know, there's natural chaos and, you know,
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fluctuation to life in general, you know, as we go about, or, you know, order and chaos
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forms naturally and almost, almost in a perfect, you know, tug of war system in our lives.
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And what the golden apple represents, at least, especially in this, in this instance with
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Eris forcefully injecting the golden apple into this wedding is that the golden apple
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is not so much, uh, it's not so much what the golden apple represents or what it does
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It makes, it's, it's, uh, a symbol for desire, you know, the, the three goddesses fight over
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It's more so that this golden apple was injected specifically to, uh, to incite chaos in a normal
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So this golden apple is an injected artificial form of chaos that, uh, distracts everyone
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I just realized that she's depicted in, um, Billy and Mandy.
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She's in the great adventures of Billy and Mandy.
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So how does this begin to apply to, to three eye Atlas?
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Um, this ends up, this is like an ancient Greek mythology that we're discussing, but
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it ends up kind of re, uh, neo-pagan revivals that comes up in the fifties and the sixties.
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So this gets reintroduced into society through, uh, this, this booklet book called Principle
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of Discordia, uh, created by Malaclips the Younger.
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Um, uh, 1957, it starts being created through this, uh, at this balling alley in Whittier,
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California, a, uh, these, one of these individuals gets a, uh, illumination, something happens
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The, the crash, they say the crash of the pins just creates some, some flash of illumination
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in their mind and they get a digital, a spiritual download with everything that's in this, uh,
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And this is, this is essentially the source, uh, the booklet, the Bible for the chaos theory,
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Really quickly, not to, not to interrupt you, but I, I'm doing a deep dive on, I'll pull
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Uh, one of the things that does seem to drive, uh, either like drive spirits out or cause like
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awakenings in some sort of way, creating like a, let's say it's creating a rift in a pathway.
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If we're in a spirit, the spiritual world through disruption is the, the instrument, the shofar.
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So, uh, as a musician, uh, rat would know that on a guitar, the harmonics on a guitar,
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like the 12th fret is there's a harmonic there because it is the exact halfway point between
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So it, it vibrates at a certain frequency because these things are in like equal stabilization.
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Everything is measured out to pinpoint accuracy.
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If you have an accurate guitar, but the shofar, the way it works is it's always completely random.
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So each segment as the sound, as, as the air goes through each segment, it's like fragmented and it comes out in like a different way.
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So imagine like, uh, uh, man, what's the name of the, like a, like a diminished chord.
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Like me, basically like you have a root and then every other corresponding note does not correspond with the root intentionally.
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And they blow this as a sign of disrupting this spiritual realm.
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So like when you're talking about this crash in, uh, in the bowling alley, I'm thinking of all these pins, how many, 10 pins, nine pins.
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Oh, so you're saying like, it's the opposite of harmony.
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Um, I mean, the shofar is used specifically by God or God's people, uh, to create this disruption because both, both the, the good, and I guess is in Timothy Albarino's water here, but both the good and the bad Elohim, they exist on like this kind of like order of frequency.
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So they're ordering their own frequencies, like whether it's binaural beats or I don't know, heavenly sound in order to break that stuff up, you use a shofar or maybe like a crashing of pins.
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So you have like individual pins making this noise and it's like, just like kind of like blows your mind.
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If it's, if it's like loud enough, I suppose, just an idea.
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And if, and if, uh, multiple people are hitting strikes at the same time, you know, the dissonance, uh, opposite of harmony, opposite of harmony is.
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What, uh, what you just said made me think of like, but the Pythagoreans had that system where it's all the dots made a perfect, a perfect 10.
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I think a perfect symbol, uh, of God representing God, essentially that destroying that is the, the, the bowling pins, they're destroying that would cause chaos.
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So, uh, thematically maybe it's what they're describing in this, uh, uh, in this creation myth for their cult.
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Um, so what develops from here, from this cult is kind of a, a, a chaos system here.
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They want to act like it's just like a, like a game, like a pretend, like they're not doing anything real.
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They say this is a parody, a parody of religions.
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This is a satire of cults, but it's very high brow.
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Like they're very aware that they're creating a cult.
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That's a parody of a cult, but it's still a thing that came as a spiritual download is just
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Uh, if I pulled up the principle discordia, if I read even the smallest passage of it, you
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Like, uh, let me just go to a random page here.
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Like the names, Malaclips, the younger, like they have fake names.
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I just don't want to accidentally, I just don't want to accidentally cast a spell or anything.
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Cause when we talked to Jamie, she talked about how theater is, um, an integral part of
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like, you know, Freemasonry or really any of these cults, you know, that stem out of
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this, this, uh, time period of like, let's say, uh, Greek antiquity, right?
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So it's interesting that it's almost like dismissed as, oh, this is just, um, this is
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just, this is just, uh, uh, satire when it's like, yeah, but everything that they do is,
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I mean, it's all, it's all based around theater and satire and fake names and things like that.
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That's what all these, these, you know, cults do.
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Uh, so I don't know, to highlight that and say like, oh, it's just theater or it's just
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You mean it doesn't deviate from other cults in any meaningful way whatsoever?
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I think they can LARP themselves to reality is what they're doing.
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I think they can, they can pretend to pretend to pretend and a demon will still appear.
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They're, they're still, uh, uh, appealing to, uh, entities, but they're, they're telling
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everyone else that they're just pretending and faking.
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Um, I do have a page from the here, from here, if you wanted, if I can read a little
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bit of it, uh, the five commandments of the pentabarth.
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This is their, their magic system is related to fives.
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That's the number five, um, nine, two, three, like that's kind of what we stumbled upon this
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with the, with the rapture discussion that, uh, Eamon and I were getting into.
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Um, if I can just really quickly, the pentabarth was discovered by the hermit apostle Zerathud
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Don't know what that is, but I suppose they want us to look it up.
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I guess the more you look into it, the further into chaos you kind of slide into the reason
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Eamon, Rat, and I kind of, kind of skim through it is because I feel like the further you reach
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Cause they have like, you could just look at the language of everything and it's like
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It reminds me of, it was like this work to obfuscate the whole thing, but I don't know.
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I mean, Jim Carrey is one of the weirdest guys to me, um, as far as, you know, who he really
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is or what, I mean, what he presents is so far from, I think, who he is at his core.
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And he did, he got on like Fallon or something like that.
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And he just locked into this really cringy bit all about the Illuminati.
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So like when you hear like the Penta barf, you know, and the fifth year of the Caterpillar,
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it's like, it's all immersed in the silliest language.
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I mean, I, I think that's, um, it's to deter the, uh, yeah, the all mocking tongue is what
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It's like a layer that you have to get through in order to realize like they, oh, they are
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This is steeped in like actual accurate occult teachings.
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Some of it seems like rabbit trails intentionally to kind of screw with you.
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It's a lot of meaninglessness infused into this occult practice, these occult ideas, this
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occult philosophy that's designed specifically to confuse people who are not attuned with it
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So it's designed to confuse, designed to sound meaningless so that when you point out, hey,
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You're not, you're not a genius level, uh, intellect to understand that you're at the,
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It just means retard, but that's their, the next evolution, the next, uh, iteration of
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It turned into the cult of the sub-genius, the church of the sub-genius, um, in which
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We've got later, you know, in modern times, we've got, uh, um, from Parks and Recreation.
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The, the libertarian, libertarian guy in Parks and Recreation.
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Um, this becomes, it comes in, it, it evolves from little pamphlets like chipped, chip comics
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that you would get, you know, see on the street, which would be, um, you know, just little
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The, the book of the sub-genius, this turns into books.
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It turns into plays like, uh, uh, a production.
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So right here is one of their, one of the posters.
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And Gillette is a famous, another famous sub-genius guy.
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Uh, it says at the bottom here, it is so written.
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These are all, honestly, it seems like a kind of a chill place with the whole word making
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Because right now we're, we're, we're making up words.
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It's like what we're used to, like Matt's magazine.
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Somebody said tumultuous and I was like, I have to say it wrong.
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You did not have a, guys, just for the audience's sake, Matt is trying to convince us.
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He had like a, a long phone conversation with Timothy Alba Cortuna.
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Because this is subliminal messenger and Amon rat and they're, uh, cooler than you.
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Before we, before we go on, I do want to, um, I want to admit I'm a little bit disturbed
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I wasn't going to bring it up, but I do think that, um, think about it.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Guys, H in the chat if you're for a hat and B in the chat if you want to get the fuck
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Please, Subliminal, can you hold the show up while he, unless you're going to come back
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We'll end the show if you come back with a beanie.
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I'm going to be hatless today because I don't want to draw from you guys.
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They come up with fake names because, so they're making like a, like a religion, like
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Madeline Kips, the younger, Gregory Hill and Raven, KM Ravenhurst, Carrie Thornley.
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This guy comes back into history as a buddy of the guy who shoots JFK.
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He writes a book about him before he goes off to, to shoot JFK.
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So, I got to admit, I am a little bit worried that we're like, it's like, what do they
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Well, they make up words, and they make up fake bird names for themselves, and they're
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Well, that, I mean, that's a little bit less concerning.
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So, this whole organization, this whole theme is like some kind of a government operation.
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Aside from it being a spiritual operation, it's also influenced by the government, because
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So, this is what Discordia is in the mythology.
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Like, she's the goddess of personification of strife, discord, daughter to Nyx, sister
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Toil, labor, forgetfulness, oblivion, famine, starvation, pains, sorrows, combats, wars,
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murders, lies, falsehoods, anarchy, delusion, recklessness, folly, ruin, and false oaths.
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Well, they didn't invite her to the wedding, so she's real mad about it.
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Honestly, I could, I mean, if you want to, you know, kind of personify these spiritual
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entities, and they were engaging in, like, yeah, you wouldn't want to invite this bitch.
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Another thing that's important on this slide here, go back, that symbol.
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That looks like, uh, two crescents with the line?
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Yeah, so it almost looks like it's the, um, the triple moon, right?
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Like, uh, but, but obviously there's no center moon, there's a line.
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This is, uh, essentially the symbol of Discordia.
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Like, if you see this symbol, it's very obvious someone, whoever's implanting it, is implanting
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It's also, uh, heavily used by, like, pagans, especially women.
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Like, it's, like, along with the divine feminine thing, this symbol is very often used with
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It's like a crescent moon on the left, which represents the maiden, uh, the single moon,
00:34:41.600
the full moon in the middle, which I think is the, the mother, and then the crescent moon
00:34:48.460
It looks like you'd see this on, like, a bad 90s tribal tattoo.
00:35:01.160
And yeah, so, so it's probably the same thing because in that context, it represents, you
00:35:10.300
There, there's her triple moon goddess symbol logo above her portfolio there because she's
00:35:19.340
And this is, this, this is like witch stuff, but more chaos, like a chaos witch or chaos
00:35:29.580
These, whatever they call themselves these days, chaos magicians, right?
00:35:34.940
What's that her, what's her, what's up with her feet in this image there of Eris?
00:35:43.320
So because when you're describing her, she sounds like kind of a Lilith character where
00:35:48.140
Lilith is often described as like, uh, they call it a siren, but it's then it's when it's
00:35:53.640
descriptive, it's more of like a harpy, which is like, you know, uh, upper body of a woman
00:36:00.740
And then Lilith also supposedly being this mother of monsters.
00:36:11.380
They, they use it throughout the, throughout the, uh, principal discordia, but a lot more
00:36:15.800
in the, the, uh, book of the subgenius, uh, real quick before we move on, just some of
00:36:20.440
the other symbols that they would, that you would have them around, right?
00:36:22.900
You got the apple of discord, you got the Pentagon, which is, you know, five sided, uh, five
00:36:28.200
This would be the pyramids, simple stars and number 23.
00:36:31.960
So these are just some of the, the numbers you would have associated with, with you.
00:36:35.960
If you were, I guess the chaos magician, that discord.
00:36:37.980
That's interesting because of that whole movie with Jim Carrey.
00:36:41.340
And I was just talking about the Illuminati and he did that film, uh, 23.
00:36:46.200
Well, I mean, our last presentation was all about the number nine, two, three, right?
00:36:52.780
I don't know if you want to watch something really quickly about Jim Carrey.
00:36:59.500
Oh, is this, um, from the, yeah, this is really interesting to me, dude.
00:37:07.940
Well, I guess we'll listen to like just a minute of it and we'll see what he says.
00:37:12.240
Just having sex with women, birthing demons through that intercourse.
00:37:17.280
I believe that is happening on a scale of like Petri dish scale.
00:37:21.360
I believe there's deep occults in this nation, secret occult that are birthing the most beautiful
00:37:27.880
actors that are coming together and birthing Nephilim.
00:37:34.380
These like some of our favorite actors, dude, we are falling to this, to sleep through the
00:37:44.160
And even if they're not a Nephilim, they're very demonically possessed men.
00:37:50.140
And so when we're watching movies and we love this favorite actor or that one, and you're
00:37:54.600
falling asleep to it, that's your disgusting submerged nation that taught the world how
00:37:59.960
to, our politicians, our musicians, these people are either Nephilim or they're very
00:38:13.160
The antichrist spirit I hung out with was literally the character of Jim Carrey.
00:38:18.360
Like the funny, the laughing, you could kind of imagine like those.
00:38:23.040
This dude here, uh, I've been apparently, according to the episode, he was, uh, having
00:38:28.100
like physical relations with this antichrist spirit who presented itself as Jesus.
00:38:32.180
But the characteristics were that of like Jim Carrey, which I don't know what kind of
00:38:37.340
Cause I would never want to hang around Jim Carrey.
00:38:41.180
I listened to this physical, physical relations.
00:38:45.220
No, he, he, when he went on, he would tell you like, it felt as real as physical, but
00:38:51.060
Well, it was, I forget this guy's name, but like they were, they would just like basically
00:38:54.880
reach into his head and make him continuously orgasm.
00:39:04.540
Well, like I said, he did say, if you were to have looked at him while this was happening
00:39:08.740
to him, he would have been alone, but that's not what he experienced.
00:39:21.640
I believe that he was going through those things.
00:39:23.140
So, but yeah, he basically says that that whole character that Carrie puts on is like
00:39:29.580
And, um, and that you like, and I, I, I, I believe that just in the sense of like actors
00:39:36.400
will always say they're channeling a thing, you know, uh, whether it's method acting or
00:39:41.500
And when they are off the screen, you know, whoever they are behind the mask is, I guess
00:39:52.320
I would love to talk to him if it wasn't for the fact that Merkel did such a fantastic job
00:39:57.720
I would say like, go and listen to that Merkel episode.
00:40:01.880
We would only be doing the same shit except probably interrupting him a lot.
00:40:04.740
Um, so yeah, man, I, I, you know, as far as Carrie goes, I think like, yeah, he's channeling
00:40:10.300
something, um, and it's not who he really is, but maybe it's another thing to go like,
00:40:16.540
yeah, this is actually a, a, a particular spirit that he's, he's channeling and presenting to
00:40:24.660
Uh, is it possible he was trying to tell us exactly what was going on with the, with
00:40:32.720
And is that why he's not doing these goofy weirdo comedies anymore?
00:40:36.720
I mean, he, he kind of is dabbling his feet back in.
00:40:40.080
You see, we see him playing Dr. Robotnik in the Sonic movies or Dr. Eggman.
00:40:46.580
You gotta, you gotta keep on, uh, you know, subverting the children.
00:40:49.440
So you gotta pay the bills with the blood of babies, right?
00:40:55.280
Jim Carrey's like a case study that I'm, I'm like on my own looking into all the time,
00:40:58.780
like with the Ace Ventura, uh, uh, subliminal stuff that I was looking into after the episode
00:41:04.100
And, uh, I've seen interviews of him and he, he, the stuff that he describes just feels
00:41:07.400
like an ego death after DMT or ego death after a lot of psychedelics.
00:41:11.920
So between that and losing his self in these roles, I definitely believe he's, he's everything
00:41:19.720
he was saying about not being human and things not mattering.
00:41:21.660
I think that he believes that because of just the mind space that this stuff puts you in
00:41:25.660
and that stuff does come back, um, with this cult mentality.
00:41:29.520
Um, I called last, uh, a couple of weeks ago to talk about wayward and the Tibetan book
00:41:38.200
Um, that has a lot to do with repatterning and losing stuff like, uh, trauma is what they
00:41:43.580
But I think as, uh, as individuals, we just lose aspects of our own personality under, you
00:41:49.100
know, heavy shrooms, heavy acid DMT experiences.
00:41:51.920
And I think Jim Carrey has just done more than, more than most.
00:41:55.160
He's probably has access to it more than the average person and he's just lost more of
00:42:02.540
If you're losing your own personality and, and then what, when you, when your spirit starts
00:42:09.400
to fall back, you know, it's like we study these things all the time with disassociation
00:42:15.000
Um, so you're losing your own personality, but you're constantly channeling for all these
00:42:21.540
Like, yeah, you're getting your, your vessel's getting filled with somebody else entirely.
00:42:27.740
Uh, Tropic Thunder, I think is a good example of that.
00:42:29.540
It's funny, but you know, uh, I'm a dude playing a dude, I'm playing another dude is
00:42:33.280
the comedy version, I think, of what actors put themselves through.
00:42:36.620
You got to be careful when you let other dudes, uh, do your plugs.
00:42:43.500
It's hard to only, only let dudes you trust do, do your plugs.
00:42:51.460
There's, there is something to be said about that though.
00:42:54.400
Like I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.
00:42:57.280
And then when you look at MKUltra, it's like, well, if you traumatize them, they disassociate
00:43:03.080
and a second programmable personality appears and you can embed all kinds of code and shit
00:43:11.040
And I'm sure somebody went, well, is there a third layer?
00:43:14.460
So when you hear that guy go, I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.
00:43:18.620
And that is, um, Robert Downey Jr. is just telling the truth.
00:43:25.660
How to make a undetectable like Illuminati, uh, altar or something like that.
00:43:37.400
I look at it into a little bit at a certain point.
00:43:43.000
So a lot of this Church of the Subgenius stuff ended up getting to that section.
00:43:53.980
Let me know when you want me to share it and unshare it because I, I'll keep it like,
00:43:57.920
Because he gets nervous and he's like, I gotta take it down.
00:44:02.580
On the off chance, uh, off chance Raven says something interesting.
00:44:06.160
I'd like to have like a large screen to, to clip it.
00:44:09.340
So I think I need to skip forward a page or two.
00:44:12.780
Um, the discordia, uh, pamphlets, little, little booklet turns into the cult, the church
00:44:25.240
They didn't want to call it revival because it's Christian connotations.
00:44:28.480
Um, so they call it the devival in this documentary they put out.
00:44:35.900
I'll, I'll bring it up a little bit later, but this, it develops, um, this subgenius book,
00:44:45.800
I'll, I'll, I'll send it to you guys later if you guys want to like a digital like pictures
00:44:49.300
out of here, but they, they express all their mythology.
00:44:52.420
They're different, um, different pagan, neo-pagan belief systems, uh, stuff from the goetic,
00:44:58.400
goetic, uh, magic system stuff from the, uh, books of Solomon, like all kinds of just
00:45:08.120
It's all gobbledygook and weird little, little, uh, weird little.
00:45:15.320
In the same way that the Principa Discordia was all just sort of gibberish and weird and
00:45:23.540
That's interesting because they do a fair bit of that where they will, um, almost cartoonize,
00:45:33.120
I guess, some of these, some of these concepts.
00:45:35.200
And then you see them like repackaged and delivered to children in like the form of that
00:45:44.400
Well, Adventure Time is definitely one of them.
00:45:53.060
I was talking about Duncan Trussell this morning and Duncan Trussell is kind of like
00:46:01.440
Um, he, but a penny was thrown out of a metaphysical realm at him basically.
00:46:07.440
But he had a show that was on Netflix and I forget what the show was.
00:46:12.460
Dude, if he's not Jewish, like, I don't know what, cause he looks so Jewish.
00:46:16.660
Um, he is literally like, he looks like a rabbi.
00:46:19.060
So, um, but he had a show on Netflix and it was, maybe somebody will know the name of
00:46:26.660
And it was all of these like high level metaphysical concepts all through cartoon.
00:46:45.940
We should probably watch it and break that down.
00:46:47.940
We'll get blapped up if we watch it, but I'm fine.
00:46:53.900
Of like, it is really high level, uh, esoteric mysticism, all of these different things, all
00:47:00.580
these principles, but it's done through this lens of like comedy and cartoon and, um, very
00:47:07.440
It's very strange because they do that to kids all the time and they, they, they're, they're
00:47:12.380
I think, uh, you know, comedy and cartoon seems to be the vessel that it chooses, which
00:47:22.860
Uh, they, they, they sneak in a lot, a lot of stuff to cartoons.
00:47:27.060
So I get to see firsthand what they're sneaking into the kids.
00:47:30.000
I think one of the worst ones right now is, uh, digital circus.
00:47:33.180
I don't know if you guys, if your kids are, that seems familiar, digital circus.
00:47:36.740
It's got a little, a little jester girl that's put into a digital world and there's a bunch
00:47:43.680
And she deals with a, uh, a top hat, you know, uh, Luminati symbolism top hat is, uh, the
00:47:50.940
And, um, yeah, and, um, I did a breakdown of the first episode, uh, on my show.
00:48:00.320
I've seen a couple episodes with my kid and I have to tell her, like, I'm kind of explaining
00:48:04.080
stuff to her and she's like, Oh, I don't want to watch this anymore.
00:48:11.980
Black and white checkerboard, the checkerboard floor.
00:48:18.080
It's like, it's very, uh, esoteric, but, um, like you said, they sneak stuff into children.
00:48:23.020
Uh, the subgenius stuff was, I think just to like the average person on Hollywood Boulevard,
00:48:27.680
you know, like just the average show walking around this, this was more for entertainment
00:48:31.860
for like people who read comic books, this subgenius thing.
00:48:34.880
And at the time there was no internet, so there was no way to for these people to meet up.
00:48:39.600
So the subgenius thing became, um, a way for these people to link up.
00:48:43.220
So they got together and, uh, they had parties.
00:48:46.580
They had, they had, um, they had, what do you call it?
00:48:53.020
They had, they put on little plays, little productions.
00:48:55.120
A lot of the times they just burned a Jesus, an effigy of Jesus at one point.
00:48:58.740
And, uh, it was, it was run by this guy named Ivan Stang.
00:49:04.200
I believe, uh, Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson, who wrote the Illuminatus trilogy,
00:49:09.680
were the ones who were the, uh, the brains behind this.
00:49:13.300
These, um, this man is, uh, I, you can hear them talk.
00:49:18.240
This guy's kind of the brain, brains of the operation.
00:49:22.340
Um, while he was at Playboy, he got a lot of people come in to do, you know, interviews
00:49:26.740
and they would tell him stories and shoot the breeze with them.
00:49:30.040
And I, he kind of says that people would come in, um, with, you know, looking very official,
00:49:39.460
And from this Illuminatus trilogy, uh, 1975, this breeds the Illuminati card game, the Church
00:49:45.640
of the Subgenius, and kind of the framework that I believe that we live in as conspiracy
00:49:49.840
theorists, uh, the fishbowl that we keep being fed breadcrumbs from or breadcrumbs that
00:49:55.800
you're kind of mentioning that we feel like we're being led.
00:50:01.160
Um, and I, I, I, all the research I've done around it, the people he was associated with,
00:50:06.500
uh, the people he ends up having meetings with later in time are all related to the mind,
00:50:16.160
They are the assets for the CIA that, you know, they, they got in trouble with the government
00:50:19.800
and they got out and now they're the heads of the LSD movement.
00:50:22.720
So they were, I, I feel like this all kind of ties into some very well-funded, organized,
00:50:31.840
They called it, if I can cuss, they called it, um, Operation Mindfuck is what they called
00:50:39.120
Uh, it's the conspiracy conspiracy or the PSYOP PSYOP.
00:50:42.400
Um, yeah, I feel like that's what I've been, um, struggling with for a while now is like
00:50:50.620
there is, and you can see it really clearly, right?
00:50:54.120
In the form of these like cartoons and everything where they're leaving these breadcrumbs, they
00:50:57.780
want you to, it's a, it's a pied piper, follow me down the rabbit hole ass kind of a move.
00:51:03.140
And, and you know, when you're doing it in a bit of a vacuum and there's not like all these
00:51:09.620
masses who are into what you're saying, where you can kind of feel like, Oh, like I did
00:51:14.020
when I was younger, like, Oh, I'm into like, I figured something out.
00:51:17.200
I, I, and it's like, you didn't not figure something out, but also you were led to that
00:51:23.720
And the thing that seems to lead you there is the thing itself.
00:51:28.380
And now that's become really clear to me is like, Oh shit, all of this hidden knowledge
00:51:35.720
and crap like that, it itself is pied pipering people towards it.
00:51:43.120
And, and you know, now I'm kind of in this place where I go like, Hmm, no, I don't want
00:51:49.520
Like I'm kind of realizing if that's the point, it's the same thing we're talking about, whether
00:51:54.400
it's a orchestrated Jew noticing, um, that was hard.
00:51:58.660
I was a hard J hard J Jew noticing or, um, or just any of this rabbit trail rabbit hole
00:52:07.500
thing that leads to the esoteric coveted knowledge that I've now discovered.
00:52:12.600
And I'm trying to tell you guys, this is what they don't want you to know.
00:52:15.480
Well, this entire show, it's like, we have to, I don't know how much you have to be aware
00:52:20.960
And I think subliminal kind of touched on this.
00:52:22.820
He's like, how much do I have to actually be aware before I go, I'm going to close this
00:52:28.320
Then you also get to a point, like I said, in the previous show, it was very frustrating
00:52:33.580
And you're like, Hey, you got to get to first base at least.
00:52:37.880
It feels like you've got to come down multiple layers in the batter's box.
00:52:44.760
And, and so this is all coming to head now with Matt.
00:52:49.860
That diaper baby, I've been so tired of going through it where I'm like, now I meet him
00:52:54.520
and I'm like, I've got to go back all these steps to explain for step one.
00:52:58.680
I'm like, I just, well, you know, what's good about that is when you learn a thing versus
00:53:05.440
When you teach a thing, you get a deeper understanding of it.
00:53:07.900
And then you get to, you're learning as you're teaching.
00:53:10.520
But when you're teaching somebody that's kicking and screaming with the diaper on saying,
00:53:16.560
Well, I mean, you know, but I'm like, you have to look at this, like, he's just a little
00:53:23.620
I think that all of this apparatus, like you had a picture of Joe Rogan on one of the
00:53:28.740
So we make that little joke where he's like part of the new Laurel Canyon of culture creation,
00:53:32.800
but the culture that he's creating is like this adjacent, right?
00:53:37.940
And that's why you have like a Duncan Trussell on his show, who's, who's exploring these
00:53:42.480
things and introducing people to these concepts.
00:53:44.160
And, and he is like a pair of training wheels for this program, right?
00:53:51.880
They got your boy, Andrija Puharic there as well.
00:54:01.040
So he was involved with, I mean, obviously since sixties, seventies, like the government,
00:54:07.260
Uh, astral projectors or something like they can, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:11.020
And he was also, he was experimenting with, uh, well, not LSD, but you know, uh, psilocybin.
00:54:19.280
That, that seemed to, that's the best way I heard.
00:54:26.020
Uh, well in the nineties, early nineties, these, these guys all got together and culture jammed.
00:54:30.720
Uh, seven, so let's say seventies to nineties, they culture jammed.
00:54:34.260
Like they re they introduced LSD, ayahuasca, DMT, uh, psilocybin all to the, to the United
00:54:40.080
This was all like, uh, maybe from South America, Mexico, um, and different parts of the country,
00:54:47.600
And they, they, it's including the like transcendental meditation, like Baba Ram Dass brought that
00:54:53.800
Terrence McKenna was, I, I don't have so much problem with Terrence McKenna because,
00:54:59.040
um, even just for myself, he just kind of, kind of commented on the connected,
00:55:04.260
connectivity of the world, kind of how the internet we have now, whereas these guys kind
00:55:09.680
of turned like perverted a little bit where it turned into this guy sleeps with the students.
00:55:13.760
This guy ends up, uh, drugging, uh, people from Stanford, like, um, uh, people in prison,
00:55:20.260
like he was doing drug experiments on, on people, unsuspecting people even.
00:55:24.260
And I think he had the permission from the government to be able to do so.
00:55:27.140
Uh, he got in trouble for marijuana, something small.
00:55:30.780
Now he's the face of LSD throughout the United States.
00:55:33.360
It's, it's a little suspicious of me, um, uh, to me around the same time, different organizations
00:55:39.280
are getting a lot of funding to, to promote these, uh, these LSD programs, DNT in the United
00:55:45.000
You got them, uh, maps inter multidisciplinary association for psychedelic studies.
00:55:49.680
These people fund, um, the legalization of marijuana, DMT, uh, MDMA in the United States
00:55:59.040
So I think, uh, other places, they probably just change names and fund other, other, uh,
00:56:06.140
Um, the psychedelic, uh, electric Kool-Aid acid test is going on.
00:56:12.620
You've probably seen it in movies that goes from one coast of the U S and takes people and
00:56:17.120
gives them acid, acid drops and teaches them how to expand their mind from one coast to
00:56:22.900
Um, at the same time, a TV show called, uh, the banana splits is now, this is for children.
00:56:31.000
They had their psychedelic, psychedelic TV shows for kids.
00:56:33.920
So they're catching people at every level of society with these programs.
00:56:38.220
You would see that psychedelic theme, um, injected into cartoons and then it's there to stay.
00:56:44.840
So now you'll be watching like something like, you know, how some humor is injected for a
00:56:49.560
child, but then other humor goes over their head and it's, you know, supposedly for the
00:56:53.480
And what you realize, like going back and watching a ton of cartoons is like, Oh, this
00:57:01.740
This scene, they're, they're having a psychedelic trip where the world is wonky and there's all
00:57:08.120
And as a child, you're just watching that going, they're not even really thinking about it.
00:57:12.320
Like Bugs Bunny's done that, like he'll eat like something and then trip out and you don't
00:57:18.460
Because when I think of his Rugrats, you know, the Rugrats, whenever Tommy's out and trying
00:57:23.600
to find his parents and the, his adults look all trippy and weird and they all look psychedelic,
00:57:31.220
but until he finds his mom, you know, things freaked out and weirded out.
00:57:36.480
I do appreciate Eamon Ratt's attempt to insert the Jews into this conversation, uh, though.
00:57:43.580
I mean, even, uh, there's been some reels going around about, uh, Popeye.
00:57:48.080
Popeye, uh, instead of, uh, spinach, that what he's taking is actually, you know, methamphetamine
00:57:54.700
And it's like all the symptoms of like his, his pupils just get dilated.
00:58:00.600
And the other dude is, uh, Brutus is just basically trying to stop him from.
00:58:07.300
He's like, no, Popeye, you can't keep doing meth, uh, beating me up and then having sex
00:58:13.980
It's wild when you watch it under that perspective.
00:58:18.640
I will say, uh, it's almost impossible not to acknowledge the Jewish handlers play in
00:58:27.100
I mean, who is the one green lighting these shows that are being shown to kids?
00:58:37.460
Cause like, I was like, well, let's talk about health.
00:58:42.140
And I was like, all right, let's talk about who's opposing.
00:58:45.100
Well, it's as simple as who's opposing RFK from removing poisons from the food.
00:58:52.020
When you look at his connections to Schmooley and his apologizing for this and that, the
00:58:57.180
But then you look, it was like, oh, well, who opposed this?
00:59:03.700
And I go, well, who owns, who owns the food industry is like, all right, like Pepsi.
00:59:12.640
And it's just like, it's just consistent and constantly.
00:59:15.560
I'm like, yeah, every time you scratch it, it's just, this is what it is.
00:59:19.580
And I hate going down this rabbit hole because it's such old hat.
00:59:31.940
I just want you to know that the hat is a real, uh, symbol of when you've achieved a certain
00:59:39.440
The next step would be writing the foreword to an apocryphal book.
00:59:50.820
Write the foreword to Jasher and just make a mockery.
00:59:54.880
I feel like, I feel like you guys should actually read the book of Jasher, the book of giants
01:00:04.720
I haven't read, uh, read through the whole book of giants yet, but, uh, I don't know.
01:00:09.620
I don't remember which, what it was, but please continue.
01:00:11.820
The problem with the book of giants is so fragmented.
01:00:16.100
Uh, the important thing I think, cause we're talking about, can I bring up the, the, can
01:00:22.660
Because we're, we're talking about, uh, how you guys are about to have a conversation with
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So you're going to have a nice little, uh, one-on-one discussion, uh, with your friend,
01:00:36.720
friend of the show, very dear friend of mine, Timothy Albarino.
01:00:39.960
And we're going to, uh, we're going to talk about this alien thing.
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But I want to talk about like the, the symbol of Eris real quick, because we've mentioned
01:00:50.100
something earlier and I wanted to talk about it.
01:00:56.440
Yes, dude, the dude going in front of Congress in front of the world saying, Hey, yeah, I
01:01:04.340
have proof that there are aliens and we've been talking to aliens for years now.
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That, that is throwing the golden apple at the table.
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That is for everyone to look at and say, Oh, let's fight about this because the aliens
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are actually my story that the aliens are my Anunnaki from, uh, 10 hundred million years
01:01:31.540
ago while the, but, but the aliens are my story.
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The aliens are my demons from the outer realms, right?
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The, the aliens are my, uh, Pleiadians from the third nebula that are returning to elevate
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us to, uh, mystical origins or the aliens, you know, so on and so forth.
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I'm going to clip you over and over again saying that the aliens are mine.
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I, I, I want to go over another Eris, Erisian myth.
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And this is the myth of, of Eris and Heracles, Hercules, right?
01:02:15.120
So, Heracles, and I'm just going to read it straight from this, this website I found because
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it just says it's a, Heracles was making his way through a narrow pass.
01:02:26.060
He saw something that looked like an apple lying on the ground and he tried to smash it
01:02:32.000
After having been struck by the club, after having been struck by the club, the thing swelled
01:02:38.720
Heracles struck at it again with his club, even harder than before, and the thing then
01:02:43.720
expanded to such a size that it blocked Heracles' way.
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Heracles let go of his club and stood there amazed.
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Athena saw him and said, oh, Heracles, don't be so surprised.
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This thing that has brought about your confusion is eporia, or conscientiousness, and Eris, strife.
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If you just leave it alone, it stays small, but if you decide to fight it, then it swells
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If you leave it alone, it's okay and you can pass.
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If you keep smacking it, because you smack the Jews constantly, smack, smack, smack,
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The Jews get super big, and then it's like, oh, thanks a lot, man, you made the Jews super
01:03:29.560
No, but the water's going to be poisoned either way.
01:03:32.560
That's very interesting, because right now, they're giving us a million things.
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See, I think that that is true to things that are less passive, but we're in a very weird
01:03:44.580
I'm not going to sign off on you killing the Jews.
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I'm just saying it's so in your stuff that there's really nothing you could do about it
01:04:01.020
Was it us smacking the Jews that made them that big, or were they that big before, and
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They used to be little baby Jews, and then we kept smacking them with the club, and then
01:04:15.320
Again, we were just talking about Lee Harvey Oswald and JFK, that assassination.
01:04:19.580
If you look how that can tie to the Jewish nuclear program, this is a problem.
01:04:26.200
Our fathers didn't address it, because nobody really knew.
01:04:29.140
If you look at the alien thing, I wonder if the whole time they kept being like, they're
01:04:37.100
shutting down the nuclear facilities, if we just went, and they went, no, but seriously,
01:04:42.860
they keep shutting down, and we can't keep up with them.
01:04:50.520
And then every time, they would be like, we've recovered off-world crap.
01:04:58.740
And then nobody would give us, you would never be able to get to the point of some sort of
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We give them that spiritual energy to do these things.
01:05:26.720
We give them that spiritual energy to deceive us, because we actually allow them to deceive
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Imagine having a grandma, a little old grandma, sweet, sweet grandma.
01:05:45.440
And she doesn't know that all this is happening.
01:05:48.540
And then one day, she turns on her TV, and they go, attention, grandma.
01:05:56.780
And they're going to help us to ascend and all this stuff.
01:06:06.200
And then she goes, Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior.
01:06:17.080
Okay, so now we're talking about aliens versus-
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But what I'm saying is that most of the church, the ones that are straight Bible, don't see
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Again, I've got to go back and recap this whole problem.
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It's not all of them, but I'm like, there is a problem here.
01:06:42.880
You've got to be able to look at it a little bit.
01:06:47.300
You either look at it a little bit or you are steadfast in your belief in Jesus Christ
01:06:52.360
And we just don't look at it and none of the thousands of examples throughout history
01:06:56.080
where it's gotten so bad where nations are like, hey, listen.
01:07:01.160
No, because that old grandma would die and then she would go to heaven.
01:07:04.520
And Jesus would be like, yo, you crushed grandma.
01:07:06.460
Yeah, grandma would die, go to heaven, and leave us this shit.
01:07:17.040
My kids can't buy a house now because of usury, because of all kinds of malfeasance within
01:07:23.380
I mean, we can go through the healthcare system.
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I know, okay, that's fine, but I'm trying to do shit here.
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I'm not just trying to fucking pass through here.
01:07:36.340
And I think this is also important because I don't mean to cut you off, but I think this
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What you're touching on is extremely important.
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And I think another thing that we've discovered, at least I have, doing this research is that
01:07:48.380
there is a ton of artificial chaos injected into our lives, into our research, into your
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guys' show, into our show, everything, everywhere.
01:08:03.320
Like, is this a golden apple that's meant to distract me?
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Or is this a problem that needs to be uprooted?
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Can I walk around this or should I hit this with a hammer?
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I think that there is a good, there should be a good even ground, but I think that that
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apple start, when it starts to grow on its own.
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It's just the problem for me is like, I've already, we've seen it and we kind of like
01:08:37.260
We hit it a few times and we're like, oh, this thing's going to be a problem.
01:08:39.540
There's other people that were like, Hey dude, come out of that.
01:08:53.100
And like, but this is the way, like walk around it, make fun of it while you pass it, but
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I'm like, that's crazy to me that you can't see.
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I guess maybe it's just part of my own ego or something like that.
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But I'm like, you're not seeing that every single time.
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Why can we like, it makes me feel like I'm going crazy.
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I, but, but no, I mean, I think I'm seeing something spiraling.
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It hasn't, it hasn't, the war hasn't hit their front door, their front step.
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Cause we talk, we talk about iterations of this.
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It was like, well, you know, because of this and this and that.
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And it was like, oh, I don't want to get crazy like that.
01:09:49.580
But I'm just saying, do we need to get them on the show?
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We've done a lot of things on this show, but have we done a lot of good things?
01:10:32.100
So somebody sent us something for the upcoming food pantry that we're going to do.
01:10:47.780
And we want to give the opportunity to the listeners.
01:10:50.900
If you guys want to donate, all we're going to do is buy a shit ton of food from the public's
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And we're going to put it out on the table and we're just going to make it for free.
01:11:05.480
So number one, we got diapers, which is really cool.
01:11:33.300
And well, I mean, you know, it's a small contribution, but it's an awesome contribution.
01:11:36.900
So basically what I'm getting at is we've started now.
01:11:41.020
And if you want to send anything, you can send it straight to the standard coffee shop
01:11:44.200
here in Lady Lake, Florida on Bella Cruz Drive.
01:11:49.560
We'll put up the PayPal for the business thing later.
01:11:52.880
And if you guys want to donate and all the money is going to go towards buying goyslop
01:12:03.560
And then whatever's left over, we're going to give to a homeless shelter that's local.
01:12:09.200
If you sent it, sound off in the chat because I don't know who you are.
01:12:12.460
It doesn't say who you are in any kind of way whatsoever.
01:12:28.300
Guys, remember those diapers are going to last, David, probably 10 days.
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We love Nephilim Descad and we want them to keep showing up live.
01:12:43.160
And when David has to take a break to use the bathroom, it interrupts the flow.
01:12:55.600
Please tell me more about Eris and the apples and all this stuff.
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This is where we start identifying who's now benefiting from this and who's organizing
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this because now it comes into the, I guess, predictive programming mystical where the whodunits
01:13:13.740
go, oh, the Simpsons know everything and the cards predict everything.
01:13:17.800
In reality, I think this was organized like in the 1960s and 70s.
01:13:22.480
The card game spun off from the, from the Robert Antio Wilson's work.
01:13:29.400
So when they start showing us stuff in these cards, which I'm saying now are, top is 100% right.
01:13:38.320
To me, this is Oracle, Oracle, almost divinatory even, because here you have the Trump assassination.
01:13:46.580
You've got the second bullet, which, you know, it was multiple bullets being fired at him.
01:13:52.200
When Eamon and I were looking into the card game, there's way more cards associated with
01:13:58.440
We've only seen these two in the media because of, because of Trump.
01:14:01.860
We went through a handful of other cards and right around the time that Charlie Kirk was
01:14:09.940
Eamon showed it to me and I go, that looks like him.
01:14:17.340
Um, and when you go into this card, 13, 0, 13, definitely got the same hairline.
01:14:26.400
And Bob, Bob in the mythology of this, of this, uh, cult was supposed to be like a seller
01:14:34.580
He was supposed to be a person of the conspiracy.
01:14:36.660
And then he, he defects and he makes the cult group.
01:14:40.720
But in, in real life, Kirk is, was the head of his organization.
01:14:44.680
So I think symbolically, including with the memes of him having like a large head, these
01:14:48.940
memesters, these chaos magicians are the ones that make the memes.
01:14:52.300
Um, they're just kind of pumping him up into society, kind of putting them into society
01:14:56.820
If you go into the, the devival video, the, the church of the sub genius movie that they
01:15:02.100
put out, the play that they went around, they shoot Bob and kill Bob in the play, um, at
01:15:09.980
So they're like dancing over his grave and they're continuing the organization without
01:15:13.920
Uh, and the, the same thing continues with, uh, Charlie Kirk.
01:15:17.340
The parallels to me are just a little bit too much, right?
01:15:20.020
They even have some cards where they say we're organizing it.
01:15:23.760
Um, I've been doing something called the hour, uh, the hour of the subversive hour or something
01:15:28.320
like that, where I, I go in depth further into the cards and I kind of make the other
01:15:34.960
But, um, going from like the Simpsons to the, the more modern times with that movie that
01:15:41.640
we, uh, that we did, the last presentation we did was about, um, nine, two, three coding,
01:15:46.100
the Illuminati, the, the subliminals and the coding.
01:15:52.860
So this is all in accordance with the, with the symbolism of the organization.
01:15:58.000
Um, when you look at certain cards, they have this like big conspiracy that they're trying
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to do, which is, which is why I even bought the book.
01:16:08.180
They say the number sacred to Bob for reasons too complex and secret to print on this little
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bitty card meditating on 13, 0, 13 can produce amazing effects.
01:16:16.940
The power for one subgenius group is increased to six.
01:16:21.040
Um, this just gave me a clue that there's something further and deeper to go into.
01:16:27.860
Um, and here they mentioned, uh, class warfare, um, using the different, uh, belief systems against
01:16:35.800
each other, that the subgenius guys, they're just too smart for everything.
01:16:39.700
And they, they're very, they know the answers to everything.
01:16:42.080
And if you join their group, you'll be safe from it all.
01:16:44.380
So they promise you salvation from this, um, 1990 X, like death day, X day there, the apocalypse
01:16:50.900
that they, that they, um, predicted was in 1998.
01:16:54.900
Um, like before the internet really kicked off and, um, their organization dies down in 1998
01:17:04.640
So they kill, they kill the profits and then they just go over onto the internet.
01:17:09.120
And it's from here that they develop like telegram and discord, like the actual apps, like these
01:17:14.700
people end up making these apps and, um, they end up making like these kind of secret, like
01:17:22.160
infiltrating organizations where they communicate, um, through the internet, through telegram signal
01:17:27.020
And even those organizations seem to be infiltrated by the CIA and the government through, um,
01:17:32.360
project echelon and all these, uh, MK, MK programs, um, uh, project paperclip, like type
01:17:38.480
of things, bluebird, uh, mockingbird, those, those types of projects.
01:17:41.320
I had a longer, a bigger presentation that's, it's, it's like 70 slides.
01:17:45.860
Um, this is just smaller, more condensed for you guys.
01:17:48.480
But, uh, if we look at some of these cards, I, they're kind of pointing to the future as
01:17:52.900
So we got up to the Bob card, uh, the, the, the John, uh, the, the Charlie Kirk assassination
01:18:00.500
I feel like it points to them, him being targeted on his glasses here.
01:18:04.300
It says space intruders, uh, which to me, he was against immigration.
01:18:08.380
The immigrants were space invaders, space intruders, essentially.
01:18:12.460
So while he's doing his speech here, which interesting people say he was, a bomb was used
01:18:23.860
But also all the drones, all the drones that everyone said was flying around Charlie Kirk.
01:18:29.840
He's got like these, you know, everyone was like, oh, it was that drone.
01:18:34.780
And you look at the video game card, you can see all these space invaders that are flying
01:18:44.160
But this is the event itself is like one of these apples that you're talking about,
01:18:53.360
Uh, and, and that does feel like, that's like everything right now is like, they're just
01:18:58.280
Um, there's this game that's called expedition 33, I think.
01:19:03.140
And, um, so they just had the video game awards and this game is winning all the awards.
01:19:07.860
And what's interesting is it's become, yeah, and it's become like the, the subject of a
01:19:12.600
lot of contention because they're, you're playing three women, uh, or I don't know if
01:19:18.020
I don't know which one I won't play a game where the characters are woman.
01:19:21.240
Um, but you know, it's a woman and, uh, it's, it's the issue with it is that they are three
01:19:30.540
basically white women and there's no diversity in the game.
01:19:34.520
So all these DEI agendas that have been inserted in every video game for as long as, you know,
01:19:39.500
I can remember now over the past 10 years or so.
01:19:42.580
Um, and that's literally as long as I can remember, I have a very short memory and, and, you
01:19:47.100
know, you have like, it's a trans character, it's a gay character, there's a black character,
01:19:50.860
there's this character, they don't do that in this game.
01:19:55.160
And then the other side of the spectrum is like, it's racist and, and dah, dah, dah, dah.
01:19:59.060
And all these other games should have won, but they, everybody's talking about it.
01:20:04.300
It's called expedition 33 and that you play three women.
01:20:08.020
Um, but it seems like, you know, it's another one of these places where they can throw one
01:20:13.220
of these apples and create, you know, kind of create all of this, this chaos, um, lines
01:20:18.400
of division along racial, along gender, along this net.
01:20:21.760
I won't play it though, no matter how, uh, cool they try to make it look because I, I'm
01:20:27.020
not going to play a game where it's all women and that's gay.
01:20:29.120
Um, but oh yeah, you, you have it pulled up here, here.
01:20:36.680
I could tell you, I could tell you a very easy way to ignore this game and move it out
01:20:42.220
You don't have to pay attention to it whatsoever.
01:20:44.360
I'm about to anger like six people that watch your show.
01:20:53.740
Well, it's, it's, it's, it's made by the French and then it's, you know, why am I going to,
01:20:58.520
The French can't even assassinate one catty black woman.
01:21:37.100
You're doing a lot of clicking over there and it's upsetting me.
01:21:46.180
This is from the play that I was discussing and where they kill Bob and they even, even
01:21:50.120
here, how do you, uh, the death of Bob, uh, they even kind of show like what we're doing
01:21:57.220
How do they get him from here, from here, from here?
01:21:59.720
They just show this is essentially what, what they did to us.
01:22:02.540
And this is really, that's what happens in the, in the thing, in the book, in the play.
01:22:07.100
In the book, in the play, they did this in real life.
01:22:08.680
And then like Chicago or something in 96 or like 86.
01:22:13.240
So, you know, after the Kirk thing, like we talked about it cause we, it was, we were
01:22:18.160
And then like for a week or so afterwards, it was like, was it this guy?
01:22:24.820
And then after that, I was like, don't care anymore.
01:22:28.740
I just let it go because it, it felt like the JFK thing.
01:22:36.240
And it's, they're, they're consumed by trying to figure out the angles.
01:22:41.080
Because when, when something is demanding that I look at it, that's when I don't want to
01:22:45.680
I think it's like, for me, it's safe to say when I look at it, I go, wasn't what you
01:22:52.180
I don't think we'll ever know, but definitely not that moving on, moving on.
01:22:56.440
And then it's, and then you watch other people run narratives, but I think it's a good,
01:22:59.460
it's also a good marker for people like us that are in our space to be like, okay,
01:23:04.060
if somebody's coming out, uh, spouting this narrative or that narrative, I'm like, I could
01:23:10.280
I can put you in this box here because I'm like, all right now you're, this is a CIA talking
01:23:14.340
point, this is a fed talking point, or you're just dumb.
01:23:18.060
This saves me time in the future for things that you're saying later, Mike Cernovich, where
01:23:22.140
I could just be like, yeah, I mean, but we already knew about you.
01:23:24.080
Or you're, or you're milking a thing because it's still like, it's, it's topical.
01:23:27.460
And if we keep talking about it, okay, Jack, how big can we get that apple?
01:23:36.480
Even, uh, even, you know, Ian Carroll, like getting stuck on this and talking on this, it's like,
01:23:42.100
What about the kids that they poisoned with, uh, with the telepathy tapes?
01:23:47.820
I wish that was more of a sticking point, but you know, right now where they're talking
01:23:51.320
about like, I, I, I'm not trying to sound cruel, but I don't give a single fuck about,
01:24:08.360
And I can see like the whole community is whipped up and they're like, and I look at the picture
01:24:12.880
and I go, it does look like she's got so many demons in her, but like, that's it.
01:24:21.820
When, when Candace Owens comes out and she says the things like, I would struggle really
01:24:26.640
hard to tell you even what's happening there, what she's talking about.
01:24:46.100
I don't care about like the tiny discussions that they're having or the evidence she's bringing
01:24:51.180
But I do care that I'm like, it's very clear that that's not what happened here.
01:24:59.000
And then I like, I watch people believe the lie.
01:25:02.760
Maybe there's something wrong with me, but that's maybe that's why we have a show that
01:25:05.820
is like what it is because I'm like, I do think we have to talk about it to a degree.
01:25:15.120
And that's so, but I'm hitting it from, I feel like I'm hitting it from the other side.
01:25:17.600
Like I've passed it and I'm hitting it from the back.
01:25:19.700
So I guess it's growing, but I'm like, I'm already over here, but I'm like, you guys don't
01:25:47.900
So just like this apple that's been around forever, it doesn't get noticed until somebody
01:25:51.880
puts attention to it, like what you guys are doing on your show.
01:25:54.600
This cult organization, these belief systems have been around forever.
01:26:08.700
These guys are just rinsing and repeating all neo-pagan belief systems and like transhumanum
01:26:13.220
ideals, transhumanist ideals, anti-Christian ideals.
01:26:17.040
I mean, if we're all made in the image of God and these people are destroying organized
01:26:23.180
religious, destroying like the thought process itself, it's just an attack on humanity.
01:26:29.920
And continuing from the 90s projects, Joe Rogan is now the one, you aptly said that he's Laurel
01:26:39.580
Now he's the one promoting all these like himself.
01:26:42.840
So even some of these people come back to his show to promote these LSD, DMT trips on
01:26:49.720
It's interesting because those values used to be introduced through like, you know, sex,
01:26:55.460
Um, and now they're introduced through like this intellectual adjacent podcast.
01:27:01.800
Where it's like, he's a little bit funny, but he talks to smart people.
01:27:07.760
And, and through that, now these, these values are reintroduced into the community or into
01:27:17.080
I think the, the level of sophistication as like how much we should pay attention to it
01:27:24.560
So if you don't pay attention to Joe Rogan at all, you don't fall for the Laurel Canyon
01:27:30.480
But if you don't pay attention to Joe Rogan at all, then you think that Ivermectin is
01:27:37.800
Now when I see, yeah, when I see, what are you doing?
01:27:40.040
When I see Joe Rogan now, I go, um, I go, I see what you're doing.
01:27:48.060
Where do you like, so rat personally, where do you stand on what I just said?
01:27:54.000
And we're hitting it from the back, from the sides, but like, that is it.
01:27:58.580
If you don't watch Joe Rogan, you're not exposed to the float tank.
01:28:03.120
You might not talk to entities and demons and go down this whole pathway that we're talking
01:28:08.900
If you don't watch Joe Rogan as well, there are some helpful things that might've been
01:28:14.960
inserted in there that you can take little pieces, little gems.
01:28:18.260
I don't know how you feel about just Ivermectin or things like that.
01:28:22.200
There might be things that you would miss that would help you on the way.
01:28:27.040
So it's like, you're not, you have your head buried firmly in the sand and you know nothing
01:28:31.000
that's going on or, you know, some or all of it.
01:28:36.880
For me personally, uh, that is a tricky question.
01:28:40.980
And it's one I've been tackling is I, I almost had like a, a, a breakdown anxiety moment when
01:28:48.220
I, when I know me, me, I know, I know me of all people, but like when I discovered the
01:28:55.160
depth at which this, uh, chaos, this discordian cult has kind of integrated its fingers into
01:29:03.740
every aspect of our culture and just how for a long time, I felt like I was causing more
01:29:12.480
problems by saying, Hey, check out this discordian cult that's got its fingers and everything,
01:29:17.980
because not only am I mentioning that this chaos thing is so ubiquitous, but it's also
01:29:25.020
making it more ubiquitous like now, now, but, but, but again, knowledge of the problem does
01:29:32.440
not mean you're adding to the problem, even though this one feels so, uh, intangible, you
01:29:41.160
know, even though this one feels like you can't really quite grasp it.
01:29:44.320
And it's, it just, it grows based on knowledge.
01:29:47.300
But, but if we, if we point out that it is an issue that, that you are being chucked golden
01:29:53.660
apples at every single turn that every pathway you walk down is going to have a golden apple
01:30:00.140
and it's in the middle of it waiting for you to bang it, right.
01:30:06.060
And the golden apple at the, at the wedding is designed there specifically for you to
01:30:13.040
get mad at your neighbor, mad at your friend, mad at your family.
01:30:18.940
You know, once you notice that the intention of these items is to cause you distress, then
01:30:33.320
If the problem isn't with my knowing of the item itself, the problem is that it gets in
01:30:39.060
The problem is, is that it, that it causes me to hate my, my brother.
01:30:44.980
It, the problem is, is that it causes me to, of, uh, to, to distance myself from my neighborhood,
01:30:52.720
from my community, from my, uh, friends and family.
01:31:02.920
To miss the mark, to, to, well, and, and to like, like there is an element of Joe Rogan
01:31:11.000
specifically that is, it's like the, there is poison in the solution.
01:31:24.520
So at that point you have to weigh, is it better to take the remedy and get poisoned or live
01:31:33.260
with the infection that's going to kill me anyway?
01:31:35.600
And that's, it's, this is where we come to with like, uh, the convergence of the show being,
01:31:43.740
And then on the other hand, we have straight Bible, which I think the Bible is a great solution.
01:31:48.540
But as I keep looking over, I'm like, you're still not like, I understand like, this is the solution, but you're not seeing this issue here.
01:31:58.100
If there's no problem, there's no problem, right?
01:32:02.460
But it's like, well, I mean, like, like, where do you bridge?
01:32:06.020
Is there, is there a bridging a gap of these two things?
01:32:08.460
Or is it just like, just one oversee the other?
01:32:10.780
Because as you're doing only one, I'm, I'm, I'm noticing a big hole in the game where it's like, well, we, we don't see this problem here.
01:32:16.320
And this is affecting, I think that, um, not to, not to toot my own horn, but I'm going to toot my own horn is I think that I've come to a really healthy place with all this shit where, um, I wrestled with knowing all of the things that I don't know all the things, but I knew a lot of shit and it caused a lot of stress in me for a long time.
01:32:40.780
And I wrestled with a lot of people who were close to me to try to see this thing, see it, see it, see it.
01:32:46.620
And, um, and nowadays I'm much more in this place where like, I think the problem with the apple isn't so much the apple or noticing the apple or talking about the apple.
01:33:03.860
And so the, the comedy really helps where, so we're thinking about bonking in a physical sense, but like, I know what it's like to never get my hands on.
01:33:16.160
Any of these conspiracies as far as how to solve them, but still allowing them to just eat me away like acid and eat away my relationships like acid and keep me from doing the work that was actually important.
01:33:28.700
And so now I think I'm the place that I'm in is like, I'm unafraid to talk about the apple.
01:33:37.460
I'll tell you everything I know about the apple, but it's always going to end with the apple is unimportant.
01:33:45.320
You can understand what makes it tick and how it, you know, what it aims to do and all this shit.
01:33:49.040
When you kept asking me, you were like, well, then what's the solution?
01:33:53.700
To be honest, like deep down inside of me, you want to, I want to be like, no, no, like, like, like, I want to just like, just move it over there.
01:34:00.400
Like, instead of it's in the path, I just like, put it over here.
01:34:04.280
Like, you got to go over there because you are a distraction.
01:34:07.280
You are, you're staving this pathway just like over here.
01:34:12.940
It's like for other people who have noticed the apple, they need to first feel secure before they take your advice on anything.
01:34:24.220
And that's where our job comes in is we go, hey, we see it.
01:34:28.560
I'll tell you about how you're seeing a thing that is real, how it's actually maybe even a little bit worse than you think, how it's been happening for a long time, what it hopes to achieve, all this shit, right?
01:34:41.560
And now that you go, okay, cool, this guy sees what I see, then we go, it's not about that though, dude.
01:34:54.140
You got to focus on the work that's actually important because this thing, this thing that presents itself as a problem that needs solving, it'll take your whole life.
01:35:10.000
And your life should be dedicated to a different type of work.
01:35:13.160
That is, yeah, I'm having problems drawing the distinct thing, delineating line, but not for myself, but like in explaining that.
01:35:23.340
I think it's like, because you really can't, that was the problem with the church for me when I was younger was like, wait, wait, wait, you guys don't see all these apples though.
01:35:34.060
These apples, there's like giant plastic ones that they're going to put your dead bodies in when they declare martial law and they're going to turn the Walmarts into FEMA camps.
01:35:44.360
So in my mind, I'm like, I can't even fuck with you if you don't see these apples, dog.
01:35:50.180
So now what we get to be is the people that go like, no, no, no, no, no.
01:36:00.940
I don't know how much time you need, but we got time to talk about the apples.
01:36:03.360
Maybe 200 and some odd, 300 and some odd, 400 and some odd episodes.
01:36:07.540
I'm talking about the apples as long as you need so that you realize I'm on the same page as you, but this is the conclusion that I came to.
01:36:34.600
I know, but when people start talking shit like that, I'm like, then maybe I will give
01:36:40.780
Let's bonk this apple together, you piece of it.
01:36:42.300
Listen, if you guys didn't want to bonk the apple so bad, you would not be having this
01:36:47.540
one-on-one friendly, nice little chat with your best friend, Timothy Albarino.
01:37:00.320
I go, oh my God, dude, there's a super bonkable apple coming.
01:37:04.600
It's just begging to be bonked, and it's bigger than all the other apples, and they're about
01:37:09.400
to drop it here soon, and we got to be like, guys, don't bonk the apples.
01:37:23.780
We all want to, we all want to, listen, there's nothing more that I want from you guys than
01:37:30.420
to see you have a nice, friendly little tea party with your best friends, my best friend.
01:37:42.680
Oh my God, are you saying, are we getting ready to bonk the apple?
01:37:47.960
Yeah, we're going to, you're going to spark a lot more conversations about real apples,
01:37:55.980
I just, we got to be careful because if he shows up, if Timothy Alba Cortuna shows up
01:38:00.180
and he presents us a bonkable apple and it's shiny and it's juicy and he's just, you know,
01:38:05.660
throwing it around, bonk it, bonk it, oh, bonk it, bonk it, bonk my apple, baby, bonk
01:38:09.720
my apple, baby, damn it, dude, we got to be careful.
01:38:13.520
At the same time, at the same time, will you guys, will you guys be accidentally giving
01:38:22.180
I would say our, our apple's the most bonkable.
01:38:26.680
Oh, yeah, like the apple of Israel, like, is that what you're, like, I don't know.
01:38:35.320
Because we're doing a lot of apple talk and I need more.
01:38:51.480
So, identifying where this stuff comes from, if you read the book enough, you find out
01:39:00.340
this is all just remixing old paganism and witchcraft and stuff like that.
01:39:03.540
So, it calls back again to Greek mythology, like ancient mythology, and it comes to Diana
01:39:12.140
Had I not seen your episode with Jamie Dyer, I would not have noticed this.
01:39:17.760
This is something I just recently added to the slide here, and this is relevant because
01:39:22.520
the people that are associated with the Church of the Subgenius have done a neo-pagan revival
01:39:29.620
in the United States through different parks in the United States, like a park system, like
01:39:36.720
private parks and public parks, through this magazine called Green Egg that's been around,
01:39:44.480
They have reintroduced neo-paganism into the United States.
01:39:54.700
They're the ones that, they actually put a lot of money into this drug, like, what is
01:40:03.100
A multidisciplinary association for psychedelic studies.
01:40:07.280
So they invested into the Church of the Subgenius, they invested into these people's programs.
01:40:12.260
So they're kind of like, these people make money, they invest into this.
01:40:16.100
Later, the Ivan Stang, he's the one who ends up being like the figurehead organizer for
01:40:24.020
So this turns into the Church of the All Worlds and something called the Druidic Fellowship.
01:40:32.560
And they have something called the Starwood Festival, something called the Winter Star
01:40:38.880
So these are neo-pagan festivals in the U.S. related to the travel around the colleges.
01:40:49.280
The Church of the Subgenius was out here in California.
01:40:54.480
They got access to the internet right away when it first came up, and they moved to
01:41:00.520
And the colleges up there are really infiltrated with these organizations.
01:41:05.220
They have their own little, what do you call it, fraternities and stuff.
01:41:10.580
And within the fraternities, they have smaller groups.
01:41:12.640
One of them is called the Chameleon Club, which would have been Chaos Magicians in the
01:41:17.240
This is in the U.S., and at the same time in the U.K., the actual official Chaos Magic
01:41:25.440
So to me, they're spreading out and putting in these belief systems and modernizing and
01:41:29.780
bring it to the college level, to students that go into college.
01:41:37.320
They all have their belief systems, and they make different organizations.
01:41:39.980
Yeah, and this is just kind of, oops, and this is just kind of, sorry, that's for Tom
01:41:51.000
He actually helped a little bit in this presentation.
01:41:54.660
And yeah, it's just, if you watch the documentary that Ivan Stang is in, he's wearing the shirt
01:42:07.520
Like, you know, point at the apple, and let's go look at why is it shiny.
01:42:11.300
You know, you research the, and all their documenting, all their, just the way that they
01:42:16.820
promote themselves, it's very like clues and tidbits, breadcrumbs left here and there.
01:42:27.440
They'll leave this lying on the road and stuff.
01:42:30.260
So like the Rosicrucians Church, essentially, they were this organization that kind of exists,
01:42:36.040
They want you to go research these people and search these people out.
01:42:49.380
It's like, you know, QAnon is kind of this IRL LARP, or not LARP.
01:43:03.140
It had something to do with a Cicada or something like that.
01:43:06.760
And it was like Cicada 7-7 something or another.
01:43:29.740
A series of complex online challenges from 2012 to 2014 used to recruit talented cryptographers,
01:43:37.820
including codes, hidden messages, and philosophical concepts.
01:43:43.340
And so this was like, you know, they do this every once in a while where they drop out.
01:43:49.440
You know, I guess, yeah, I guess it's an apple, but it's to fascinate people and draw them into this.
01:43:58.520
Anonymous was definitely one of them, but this was a little bit more.
01:44:05.020
Mother Horse Eyes is like leaving breadcrumbs all across Reddit and then leaves it up to the people to like start putting it together.
01:44:24.260
Ecclesiastes where it's like it's up to God to conceal the thing.
01:44:35.760
For the other side, because when you do find something and you're like, this is profound.
01:44:38.440
But really, you found shit like it's we brought the kids to that, uh, that place that had, you know, the aardvark.
01:44:46.340
And there's like a there's this big slide where it's like, oh, you can mine for gold in here.
01:44:52.380
But there's like little pieces of shiny whatever.
01:44:54.540
And the kids are like, oh, yeah, you're on a waste.
01:45:01.340
I mean, you know, I think there's nothing there's value in it as long as you don't stay there.
01:45:08.520
And I've God knows I've stayed there for a long time.
01:45:11.180
I thought you're going to use an analogy of like when you think you found a cute blind pig.
01:45:20.840
But like this is actually a really fascinating conversation because I see that constantly knowing that there's this this, you know, concept from antiquity that has to do with the lower case G gods throwing these apples around and causing chaos.
01:45:35.780
I mean, to me, whether it's an analogy or it's the truth, it's the best way to describe exactly what we're going through right now.
01:45:43.920
And I feel like these little things, you know, throughout history were like the little moments where they did it.
01:45:49.520
Now they're just like like somebody's got a T-shirt gun and they're just like mass launching golden apples into.
01:45:55.900
But it was it was like they had to get us to a point where, number one, we were incredibly distrustful of, you know, the official narrative.
01:46:05.980
So you first had to get us there and then you had to give us these platforms where all these eggs were going to be disseminated.
01:46:11.800
I think Twitter is being, you know, probably the most utilized one.
01:46:16.140
And then you have other ones like 4chan and shit like that where these things are happening.
01:46:18.780
But that's exactly, exactly what we're being subjected to right now is just this bukkake of eggs.
01:46:29.420
And and each one of them is like this wild goose chase, you know, into the into some sort of esoteric information where you're probably getting indoctrinated.
01:46:38.020
This is honestly, I think, exactly what the Bible talks about when it's like lean not on your own understanding, because you're going to end up in one of these pits.
01:46:46.300
You're going to end up in one of these pits, blapping these apples.
01:46:53.160
That was one of the things that came up during this presentation, especially like deciding what is going to be useful going forward and what are we going to get rid of?
01:47:02.200
And and a lot of the stuff that came out of this, I'm like, I don't we don't need this.
01:47:07.980
This is not helping my understanding of Christ, of what my purpose is to this, everything that I'm doing.
01:47:13.980
This is all the filler that they use to keep you busy.
01:47:18.320
Well, I think what you what you guys do a really great job of better than better than us is you have this really you're willing to reading, reading words, letters, you're willing to read.
01:47:28.460
But like sometimes numbers, dude, people need to know that, you know, the super secret special shit that they know.
01:47:37.500
And only then are they willing to listen to you.
01:47:40.460
And if every soul is worth as much as any other soul and if everybody is is loved by God, it has to be brought to Christ.
01:47:48.740
Then like those people who aren't going to move until somebody comes along and says, hey, man, yo, homie.
01:47:55.320
Yeah, I see that, too. And I guess maybe it's not my job to convince people that don't need to see maybe they don't need to see it.
01:48:02.740
Yes. Like I said, that old lady who when they do an alien disclosure goes, nope, demonic, I'm following Jesus Christ.
01:48:09.480
You're good. She's good. Honestly, you know what?
01:48:13.080
It's it's part of me, too, man. I maybe I'm like I've always been like a hipster about it.
01:48:16.540
But like I don't know if you are the same way, Rat, but as a musician, I come across a guy, especially playing in church and like like I'm going to play this hymn and you read the hymn.
01:48:26.580
You scroll through and I'm like, wow, the the instrumentation in this fantastic.
01:48:30.480
Like there's like key slips, there's time slips. It's beautiful. And he goes capo for G, C, D, just simplified to the dumbest version you can do.
01:48:40.200
He plays it and I go satisfactory. I go, no, no, you listen to it.
01:48:44.820
And to the normal person, they go, that was a song.
01:48:47.920
But I go, oh, you're missing the intricacies. You're missing the beauty of it.
01:48:51.260
And then I'll play it. And I'm like, look at this chord.
01:48:53.880
There's like a, I don't know, diminished seventh into like a major seventh.
01:48:57.500
I was like, look at that. Look at that. And most people look at it and go, the fuck are you talking about?
01:49:02.300
Yeah. Can't hear that. Most I was asking my parents yesterday.
01:49:05.180
I was like, do you know what was wrong with the music yesterday?
01:49:07.020
They're like, it was great. They kind of blapped up a couple of things.
01:49:09.840
Once I tell you, though. Yeah. Once I tell you, then you go attention to it because you've bought these things to my I bonked the apple.
01:49:15.520
And I was like, it's this guy. Now it's a problem. Yeah.
01:49:17.940
But now you've and I'm sorry for that. OK, so this is yeah, this is a great example.
01:49:25.040
And I like I like the church that we're going to. But like I am just a natural critic of it.
01:49:29.840
And I go, that guy's off time. That guy's off time. Every time he's off time, I'm like, oh, man, it's ruining.
01:49:36.300
Yeah. A thing for me. But some people are like, yo, hands up.
01:49:39.880
Like, I don't even hear it. I'm like, I think you're ruining something here.
01:49:42.980
I think that even even though these people are ignorant to it, I think that there are some like specific vibrations that need to be kept in tight order.
01:49:50.000
And when you don't keep that in tight order, even if the normal people don't notice, it's a problem.
01:49:56.520
You're disrupting this cosmic order of things. And I'm like, that's the problem.
01:49:59.880
And I go, hey, David, what do you think about? And he goes, oh, that's like.
01:50:03.860
And I said, do you know why? And he goes, no. And I said, let me tell you.
01:50:06.860
Yeah. And I said, somebody says somebody out of somebody said, like his his symbols crashes are not falling with the core changes.
01:50:15.160
Simple as like once you hear that and you go, oh, shit.
01:50:18.880
Yeah. And now every time you're like, now I can't bob. Oh, shit. Yeah.
01:50:22.640
It's all fucked up now. But it is. Yeah, it's all fucked up.
01:50:24.940
So the thing is, it always has been. Now, is it is it my fault though now?
01:50:30.680
Because like you were you were like listening and worshiping in ignorance, having a good time, having a great time in the slop at one point, at some point when those those intricate mistakes are pointed out enough, someone will not be able to listen to that music whatsoever without getting irritated by it.
01:50:52.900
As a former as a former worship leader, I know exactly what you're talking about.
01:50:57.180
I would not talk about any of the mistakes we'd make. I made it pretty, pretty early on. My my the old leader. She came up to me. She's like, we're going to make a lot of mistakes. Yeah.
01:51:09.520
Do not talk about them whatsoever. Once they're done, they're out of here. Get out. Get off the stage. You're done. And so I just stopped talking about the mistakes. No one notices.
01:51:20.700
Sometimes they're major goofs and we laugh it off. But for the most part, I miss a chord change. You know, we're we're in we're in C and I start the song in G.
01:51:31.920
Oh, I'm not going to talk about it. We're just going to correct it. No one notices great. The thing with music is that like, oh, we're moving forward. There's a motion. So the stuff before is almost forgotten. You've wiped it over.
01:51:44.100
Yeah. But let me ask you, though, do you think that there's a significance of you messing this song?
01:51:49.980
If this is worship to God and we're trying to do this in a uniform way, that is perfect.
01:51:55.860
Do you think that there's you think this is a significance when you're creating dissonance or disorder within it?
01:52:01.000
I think God knows your heart and he's like, I have heard that these retards.
01:52:05.880
Look at these retards trying their best to work at these retards coming up and presenting this without practicing.
01:52:11.240
How dare you? Well, I mean, you know, if if you want my yeah, if you want my perspective of it, worship is not about the music.
01:52:23.340
The music is important. It's vital for orchestrating the worship.
01:52:28.380
But what it comes down to it, you're not you're not presenting the music isn't being presented to God by itself because there's there's a difference between worship music and worship.
01:52:41.240
Thing is, you want to get everyone into the spirit of coming together in the name of God.
01:52:48.100
You want everyone coming together in that same vibration, right?
01:52:53.300
You want everyone together singing out the song, the chords is why modern worship just has the easiest, sometimes dumbest lyrics you could think of is because everyone can sing along.
01:53:05.960
Everyone gets into that spirit and everyone moves forward.
01:53:13.760
If it's not perfect, I understand as as the inner musician, the inner perfectionist myself, I it loathes me to say, but the music is not the focus of worship.
01:53:25.660
And it's mostly been a channel with which you can get everyone onto the same board, everyone onto the same field.
01:53:32.780
What's an interesting thought is like, so you're saying when people don't notice the imperfections in the music, they're just caught up in gratitude and worship.
01:53:39.960
And then once you point it out to them, it kind of ruins them.
01:53:42.480
And that's kind of like human human nature, right?
01:53:44.100
Once you notice it, then you can't unnotice it and it becomes a problem.
01:53:47.640
What if you have a nefarious actor within that body of music that's now screwing it up on purpose and trying to get you to notice for the very explicit purpose of knocking you out of that that feeling of gratitude and worship?
01:54:00.060
What if it's what if it's something as simple as there's seven other people up here?
01:54:08.840
Nobody looked at their brother and said, we got to fix that.
01:54:15.900
Yeah, I'm just saying whether it's intentional or not, it's also up to the person next to them to be like, hey, there's an issue here.
01:54:24.400
We don't have to bonk it, but we've got to we've got to fix it.
01:54:27.200
If we're being honest, the fixable, the bonkable apple.
01:54:33.220
You know, Lainey said something here that I think is really important.
01:54:37.140
He says having secret knowledge is always Gnostic and Kabbalistic, like using the special magic word Yahweh.
01:54:43.900
And what that brought to my mind was like, oh, yeah, like with Jesus, everything was made really simple, really, really simple.
01:54:52.960
And all of the Kabbalistic Gnostic shit, you should know it because, you know, it helps to help guide your brother and it helps to know what they're doing and to be unsurprised by shit.
01:55:04.920
But you shouldn't obsess over it and you shouldn't think that you can necessarily change it because Christ made everything really simple.
01:55:12.760
It's like gratitude, repentance, believing in Christ and leading a life that is indicative of carrying your own cross, dealing with your own sin and following Jesus.
01:55:27.100
It's kind of actually beautiful in a realm where everything is super complicated, super conspiratorial secrets are everywhere and everything.
01:55:36.720
It's like, how could any one person hope to navigate this and get to the afterlife in any meaningful way to something that's good?
01:55:43.820
And it's like, actually, the way has been made for you.
01:55:45.760
It is very simple and it doesn't really involve all this shit.
01:55:49.740
I think our purpose is to help people along with all the crap that we've learned, you know, but how do you?
01:55:56.900
But then you when you point back to to show them that thing, now we're back in the same loop that we've been talking to this chaos, this disorder.
01:56:08.760
I think gifts of the Holy Spirit, your gift of the Holy Spirit would just maybe cause awakening or discernment in someone else and cause their gift of the Holy Spirit to activate and they do it to someone else and someone else and someone else.
01:56:22.160
I don't disagree with Top saying we have to do something physical.
01:56:26.340
But I think you could awaken people faster through Christ, faster than they can destroy your soul through whatever methods they're doing.
01:56:35.020
It's kind of funny how much they go through to try to, like, it takes a lot to try to destroy your soul, huh?
01:56:47.520
You're doing a lot of effort, generational, thousands of years even, plots and plans to try to destroy our soul.
01:57:00.360
It's just like, I think that that's, you know, that's what we do.
01:57:07.760
Like, they spent, man, a year and a half just, like, speed running the worst things you could do for society.
01:57:17.020
And then I watched and I was like, oh, look, there goes, like, the window companies and they're actually making windows again on time.
01:57:23.460
Like, you disrupted everything, shut the whole world down.
01:57:27.020
And then after, like, three to six months, everyone was kind of, like, back on what they were doing naturally.
01:57:35.560
But, like, people just kind of healed regularly.
01:57:37.520
So, I'm like, that's an extreme amount of disruption that you applied.
01:57:43.420
And it didn't last as long as you would have liked it to.
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But what it is is them, like, holding on to a pull-up bar.
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And it's like, well, how long can you hold on to that thing?
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Like, you're going to fall off because it's not easy to do.
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But I guess that's what they're going to continue to do.
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I think that the conversations are fun once you know.
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Like, it's like, wow, if the way has really been paved for us and our sins have been paid for and there's, like, because it's, you know, without hope, then it becomes, like, this big spiraling nonsense thing.
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But once you have Christ in the center of that and you're like, oh, yeah, we've already got a way through this.
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It's already been – the debt's already been paid.
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Now all this becomes fun because then you can look at it and go, like, yo, how crazy is this realm?
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How crazy is this realm where they want you to plug into a nine-to-five and sit in a cubicle and live life on repeat until you expire, dog?
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You do a – hey, maybe you do a – what do you call that?
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White elephant, which isn't – what is even the white elephant?
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I've gotten screwed over so hard on white elephant.
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I had – it was, like, a $300 gift card to Target.
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Yeah, white elephant is where, like, you just give, like – what is it?
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Everyone brings a gift and puts it in the center.
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And then on your turn, you could either take a gift or take someone else's gift.
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I mean, you know, these are the things that we get, though.
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A whole bunch of golden apples in the center of a group of people.
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It's nice to have these kind of episodes because it's –
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It's hard to talk about this stuff with especially people who don't get it.
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I'm just trying to work it out in my head again.
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I mean, you know, it's difficult, the nature of this realm that we live in.
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He's not going to turn the lights off or anything.
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It's every time you bonk Matt, he adds an extra T to the land of his name.
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I think that this was an interesting conversation to have at this time because even today I was
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on Twitter and I saw the homie who won't ever come on our show, Nick Hinton, and he
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And I think he does see a lot of these things for what they are.
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I think he's also burdened with crippling anxiety or whatever won't come on the show.
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But he's saying that there is this weaponization of the truther community, which honestly, I'm
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fine with because to be a truther is to be overtly gay.
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And now that I'm moving away from it, I'm like, yeah, it is hijacked.
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What a perfect place to drop a bunch of apples.
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Um, and I think that that, that story that you guys laid out there with the wedding and
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everything like that's, that's exactly what the hell we're being subjected to.
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And I hope through that lens, people can understand it because people get mad, man.
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People get mad when you say like, yeah, but the point isn't to get mad about that.
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If you're not as angry, if you're not as angry as I am about this, that means you're
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How dare you not be mad about this that I'm mad about?
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How big and how tiny it's huge and people, people, but that's the, the trap is the apple
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I just want to politely ask the apple to leave, but you're right.
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But I think that's, again, I just feel like that's just a fair position.
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Just be like, Hey man, you, you know, that you're causing a lot of disruption.
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A lot of people want to buy in the middle of the path, it's right in the middle of the
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Nothing new under the sun though, dude, nothing new under the sun.
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This is the, the, like the gift of noticing the gift of discernment, the gift of, of, you
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know, being able to see is the same, is the same, uh, the curse of it is that, um, you're
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It's a thing that you see it and it's like, bonk me daddy.
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And you, you go, can't bonk you, can't bonk you because it makes everything worse.
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And, uh, uh, I think it's important and, um, where can people find everything else that
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Uh, we're on this, over on Rumble and check out on our Twitter, Manuela Boar and Season
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You never know what you're going to get with Eamon Rat.
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What's he going to, he's going to, he's going to come on.
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Last time we went on, last time we went on, we, we had a severe bonking thing.
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Like it was an entire two hours of just us just bonking you.
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Bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk.
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But here's why to bonk or not to bonk, I guess that's the question.
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It's like you're on a narrow path and there's an apple and the apple, you know, you notice
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it, but if you bonk it, it's going to block the narrow path.
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And Heracles or Hercules went on the path and clubbed it.
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And which, you know, for a lot of situations is the truth.
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I mean, you know, obviously discernment is required and some situations do have to be
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addressed like the infiltrating member of the worship team, Top.
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Well, what I do want to say before we depart from this, we didn't even touch on it.
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The psychological apple is just like when there's a thing and you're worrying about it
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It could be like, oh, how am I going to pay my bills?
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If you don't have the power to change it in that moment and you obsess over it and you
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And then you suffer it again when it actually comes to pass.
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So that is true or you, it's not, I mean, in my experience, or you suffer it, you prepare
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And then other people don't suffer because you've now created an adequate solution for
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If something is out of your power and it's coming and you go like, I've done everything
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That's when you give it up to God and you quit bonking it.
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You know, how do, how do you know what's out of your power?
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How do I know the things I'm supposed to address?
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I'm talking about like, um, let's say within a psychological context of I have a public
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speaking thing to do and it's making me very nervous, like that kind of stuff.
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I'm just talking about the purely the psychological phenomenon.
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Well, then somebody would say, well, we'll just pray.
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But you, you better study because if you just pray, God's going to be like, why are you talking
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You should be practicing this line because this is all here for you.
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It gets bigger and bigger and it causes you all this anxiety.
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It's like, no, do your job and then give what you can't do up to God and then just move
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I had a, we had a pastor and we had an assistant pastor.
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And occasionally when the head pastor would go for the week, I have to go up to Northern
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And one week the assistant pastor gave a sermon on the, I'm blanking on the passage,
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but it's essentially, I could do all things through, through Christ who strengthens me.
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And, and, and assistant pastor was like, yeah, so this just means you put everything
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on God, put everything on Jesus and, and leave everything to him.
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And he will take care of you because he takes care of his flock.
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He makes sure the, the fisher fish have food, you know, and stuff like that.
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And, you know, no one really thought of it, but I, I told him, I told the pastor when
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he got back, like the, the message, because he wanted to get updated and he's like, no,
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So the next week he gave a message on the same passage and he said, no offense to, uh,
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I could do all things through stride through Christ who strengthens me is not about giving
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everything to Christ, but it is realizing that Christ within you strengthens you to do
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You're not giving it up to God because God is already within you.
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You are doing it because God is working through you.
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That's like that kind of line of thinking would have Noah be like, well, God will provide
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If you think that like, if you think that you're just going to be given these things
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and bless these things, if you think that you just owed something, it's not, I mean,
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I don't know, maybe it will come to you, but it's not going to be in the form that you
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You got to, you kind of got to me, this is where I'm always stuck at.
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And they go, why are you getting so crazy over this?
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And I was like, cause I'm going to build this thing.
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Like, but then it's also look at, look at what we've done here.
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And I'm like, I'm going to build it as much as I can.
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And it doesn't matter how much sleep I lose or whatever, how much effort I need to put
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But then God also comes through and he's like, here you go.
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But then how, also how much of that trying is like maybe 20% of it is just useless trying
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because I'm building stuff, but maybe in the wrong direction, but I don't know.
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And then if he, it's like, almost like he looks at you and he goes, yeah, he's getting
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And then like something will just happen and you'll get pulled in a different direction
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And it's like, but if you're just sitting there with your fingers in your butt.
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Matt, Matt, I looked at Eamon, Matt, because I didn't have his fingernails at the start
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I just feel like it looked like really dirty around the edges.
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I think he, he doesn't like when you just stand there.
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All right, guys, we got to bring it in for a landing.
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I actually think this is going to help a lot of people.
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And guys, again, I don't know what we're going to be doing the rest of this week, but we'll
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They bred with daughters of men, and they will do it again.
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The end is written in the book, in the pages they foresaw.