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00:01:10.700 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:01:16.520 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:01:20.940 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:29.900 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely insane.

00:01:35.760 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:01:37.000 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:01:38.180 It's like we all know it's going down.

00:01:40.820 We know I'm saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.

00:01:44.000 These motherfuckers are controlling this now.

00:01:46.020 We know we're talking about how they made us try to be slaves.

00:01:49.160 And everybody's just walking around.

00:01:51.280 Had in the clouds.

00:01:51.920 We want to wake up to a dead in the grave.

00:01:54.360 But it's too late.

00:01:55.340 We need to be ready to raise up.

00:01:57.160 Welcome to the end of day.

00:01:58.840 Cartel members tried to bring a group of illegal immigrants across the river.

00:02:07.900 The agents fired back.

00:02:09.600 No one on either side was hit.

00:02:11.800 The group of illegal immigrants did not make it across the Red River.

00:02:15.140 Now, this is back to you.

00:02:45.140 And I think that there is a fair argument to be made that we are being invaded.

00:02:49.300 However, I don't think we're being invaded by an army.

00:02:52.300 And that is a difference that is worth discussing.

00:02:55.080 And I'm sure we'll get into it.

00:02:56.300 I don't really understand your position.

00:02:58.040 It does seem quite accelerationist and, in fact, reckless, which is kind of your M.O. at this point.

00:03:04.840 But I would like to understand your guys' angle on this.

00:03:08.360 Oh, my angle.

00:03:09.800 I mean, we're talking about Mexicans here, right?

00:03:12.000 It's like, again, it's like Mexicans-Haitans.

00:03:15.140 No, all right.

00:03:16.820 This is why I wanted to talk with you.

00:03:19.180 So Trump gets in day one.

00:03:20.980 He declares the cartel a terrorist agency.

00:03:25.000 Or, I guess, just terrorists in general.

00:03:27.700 And we know what that comes along with.

00:03:31.180 So immediately I'm like, okay, I can see the anti-war reflex in a lot of libertarians is going to kick right away.

00:03:37.960 I haven't checked in on Dave Smith to see what he's saying, but I'm sure he's beating this drum, rightfully so, because it's happened.

00:03:45.800 I don't think Dave – I mean, Dave addressed it on his show, but he has not been tweeting about it.

00:03:50.860 So he's not going hard in the paint.

00:03:52.200 But his position was that – same as mine – that labeling them a terrorist organization is just a mechanism to circumvent normal congressional authorization for military activities.

00:04:05.400 It also opens up the potential for CIA activity when it comes to rendition, torture, if we're going to learn any lessons from the war on terror and what happened in Guantanamo.

00:04:14.840 So those are the things that are now back on the table with that classification, and that concerns me.

00:04:20.320 Right. I get that.

00:04:20.920 Now, do you see – is there a tangible difference between the CIA and the cartel in how they operate and what they actually are?

00:04:28.840 I think there's a tangible difference, yes, in that – I mean, first off, it's domestic entities.

00:04:37.140 It's largely U.S. government that's involved with the CIA.

00:04:40.300 Not all cartel members are U.S. government officials, so I think that would be the largest difference.

00:04:46.440 They are certainly criminal gangs in my estimation, so I understand the overlap, but I don't think that they're one and the same.

00:04:54.760 Yeah, that's like – this is the differentiation that I'm trying to understand, trying to make in my head at least.

00:04:59.940 When I look at the CIA and we're like, abolish the CIA, sure, fine, but that doesn't solve our problem here.

00:05:05.900 And not to get too, like, QAnon, weird, esoteric kind of Trump land, but what we are battling or what we're battling against is the deep state, right?

00:05:16.960 Not necessarily – I mean, our own government in some aspects, like, but our own government, I'd rather deal with, like, with wasteful spending.

00:05:23.440 These are things that we can address with laws and, you know, like, public pressure, things like this.

00:05:29.460 Because the CIA, the part of the CIA that I'm talking about is this, like, dark operation part of the CIA, and their funding comes from these kind of activities, cartel, illegal drug activities.

00:05:44.200 So, I guess I'll just –

00:05:46.460 Wetwork Black Ops, yes.

00:05:48.600 Yeah, yeah, Wetwork Black Ops.

00:05:50.160 I'll just cut to the chase here.

00:05:51.760 I think that if you're going to try to improve America in any measurable way, meaning, like, if you want to stop people from dying from fentanyl, if you want to have some kind of secure border, anything that makes sense for the American people is going to be an act of war against this dark government, this – the cartel, basically.

00:06:14.240 The cartel appears to me as the army of the CIA, of the aspect of the CIA that is in charge of these black operations, the ones that possibly tried to kill Trump, the ones that are responsible for –

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00:07:09.380 Like some of the awful – I mean, maybe even COVID.

00:07:12.780 We've been talking about COVID.

00:07:13.780 Where did that come from?

00:07:15.240 Like some of the – now Fauci's out there.

00:07:16.660 Full on, most likely.

00:07:17.260 Right, right, exactly.

00:07:18.220 But not from a wet market.

00:07:20.480 It's looking –

00:07:20.760 No.

00:07:21.080 Exactly.

00:07:21.560 So we have the FBI talking about –

00:07:23.780 Well, the CIA just confirmed that yesterday, by the way, that they now lean in that direction as opposed to before when they said it was almost an impossibility.

00:07:32.780 So, yeah, they – but this is all, in my opinion, just a shift that goes along with the culture and also trying to front run the – really what's happening, which to some extent is kind of a revolution in the federal government, in that you're going to have Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr.

00:07:51.060 They're all coming in.

00:07:51.880 So all of a sudden, the FBI gets rid of its DEI department.

00:07:54.700 All of a sudden, the CIA says that, oh, yeah, it did.

00:07:57.040 It came from Wuhan.

00:07:57.780 It didn't come from that wet market.

00:07:59.880 I think that they're all just trying to get out in front so they don't get canned.

00:08:02.640 Let me ask you a question, though, because now let's start connecting the dots.

00:08:05.540 Let's put our conspiracy hat on.

00:08:07.320 We're going to put RFK in HHS.

00:08:09.400 We're going to put Tulsi Gabbard in charge of, like, foreign relations.

00:08:14.560 We're going to put this guy – what's his name?

00:08:17.920 Hegseth, I think.

00:08:18.960 I think his name is in charge.

00:08:21.100 Right, in charge of deportation.

00:08:23.480 No, that's Homan.

00:08:24.580 Okay, Homan in charge of deportation.

00:08:26.180 Hegseth is, like, the – whatever.

00:08:28.560 These are people that –

00:08:29.220 Secretary of Defense.

00:08:29.620 Yeah, these are people – at this point, it's like, all right.

00:08:33.040 What I know for sure is they don't want them there.

00:08:36.920 They're going to be opposed in any form or fashion, any way that they can.

00:08:41.080 So we're going to see some weird, probably some terroristic attacks.

00:08:43.980 If you do this, like, logical conclusion, which I know your audience is going to be like,

00:08:47.500 this is not logic, again, the military arm of the CIA, this dark ops part of the CIA seems to be the cartel.

00:08:55.540 This is where they're getting their money from.

00:08:56.840 They're actually outright funding them.

00:08:58.360 We know that the Obama administration gave them guns, and it was supposed to be so we can track them.

00:09:02.600 It just turned out that they were doing crimes on American soil with these guns, and then they got caught.

00:09:09.600 Operation Fast and the Furious for any fact-checkers out there.

00:09:12.700 Right.

00:09:12.900 My concern is, if you oppose these measures in any meaningful way, and not just this hand wave or this,

00:09:22.700 kind of like the weak way that Trump opposed it in his first presidency, if you actually threaten this,

00:09:29.960 if you actually threaten the deep state, let's just call that, what will they do?

00:09:35.920 They're going to – I mean, well, we saw what they did.

00:09:38.160 He threatened them slightly, and they released COVID on us.

00:09:40.400 If we threaten them again, it's all-out war anyway, Clint.

00:09:44.100 This is what I'm saying.

00:09:44.780 I'm not cheerleading a war against Mexico.

00:09:47.520 It's insane.

00:09:48.400 But what do we do?

00:09:50.040 They are embedded in our society, in Colorado, in New Mexico, in New York.

00:09:55.260 They're everywhere.

00:09:56.460 They're already here.

00:09:58.300 And now we want to change the country and turn it around.

00:10:00.820 I think you need to ask yourself, do you want RFK as HHS director?

00:10:07.220 Do you want Tulsi Gabbard in the government?

00:10:08.640 Do you want Kash Patel as head of the FBI?

00:10:11.380 If the answer is yes, then you better be ready to deal with this shit because –

00:10:14.660 Okay, so you're saying that basically the war is being declared just by the cabinet that he's surrounded himself with.

00:10:21.200 Look, I can see that argument.

00:10:23.380 Certainly based off of my feeling about the multiple assassination attempts against Trump, there have been rumors of people inside Trump's camp that actually agree with my assessment as to the fact that the deep state – that it was the U.S. government that was in fact trying to take Trump out.

00:10:39.320 Well, if that's all true, then yes, I mean, certainly Kash Patel and all these other folks are going to represent kind of an existential threat to these people, assuming that these people are for real, which is still TBD.

00:10:51.380 I hope that they are.

00:10:52.260 I've met most of them personally, and I tend to believe that they are, but I'm still not 100% convinced.

00:10:58.720 That does not mean that I should be on board with authorizing the CIA and the existing military to then go into Mexico, use drone activity, use rendition, use black ops to take out cartel leaders.

00:11:16.680 Particularly given that there is no track record by which you can point to and say, here is a military activity that actually defeated a criminal organization that didn't immediately create a power vacuum, which was filled in short order.

00:11:33.660 You can – even with ISIS, like, oh, they're gone, now they're back.

00:11:38.200 It's the same thing.

00:11:39.500 Taliban, 20 years, they didn't go anywhere.

00:11:41.940 There's really no example other than, like, toppling leaders.

00:11:46.520 We do that quite well with our CIA and our State Department.

00:11:49.380 We topple leaders in countries, but does that create a better situation?

00:11:53.520 And historically, the answer is consistently no.

00:11:56.220 Libya, Yemen, like all these other – or Ukraine, for God's sakes.

00:11:59.980 Libya has burst into open-air slave trade, correct?

00:12:02.720 I mean, that's what happened after we created that power vacuum.

00:12:05.720 And that was thanks to Hillary Clinton and Gaddafi.

00:12:07.760 I mean, yeah, didn't she – what was it?

00:12:10.100 We came, we saw he died.

00:12:12.760 That's it, as they knifed him in the butt on national television.

00:12:16.000 Look, I think it is important to ask, though, and I agree with what you're saying, Clint.

00:12:20.440 Authorizing our own government to do all of those things that you listed, that's problematic, sure.

00:12:25.420 But, I mean, when they're alleged to have done the things that they are alleged to, right, when it comes to human trafficking, I know that that's kind of a real big deal right now.

00:12:33.640 They just found, like, 75,000 missing migrant children.

00:12:36.360 I think it was in Iceland.

00:12:37.300 It's not necessarily attributed to the cartel, but, like, human trafficking, child trafficking is something that's on the forefront of a lot of people's mind.

00:12:44.540 It's, like, people's number one deal.

00:12:46.840 And we've become pretty comfortable associating that with one of the cartel's dirty bags here.

00:12:51.180 And then, of course, like Top mentioned earlier, the funneling of fentanyl, we're in the middle of a huge opioid crisis, and people are dropping in the droves.

00:12:59.140 So I understand not authorizing all of those things that you listed, but I think – and that's fair.

00:13:05.780 So the question then becomes, what should we do, and is this not an open declaration of war against us?

00:13:11.800 I mean, we started it with them allegedly, a suspected cartel member, returning fire against border agents, and it's, like, at what point does it no longer matter?

00:13:22.880 And I would say that we're probably there in regards of, like, whether or not we're in a hot war with the cartel.

00:13:29.480 But the other thing becomes, what do we do?

00:13:32.980 Instead of, I agree, not authorizing all these – because it's one of those things, too, where whatever we're going to allow them to do, they're never going to relinquish those powers.

00:13:40.940 You know, so if we authorize war with the cartel, it's, like, there's going to be a whole bunch of shit that's going to be leveraged against the American people in the future because of this.

00:13:47.620 But what do we do?

00:13:49.620 Yeah, well, I have a lot of answers.

00:13:51.440 I'm not sure that you guys will agree with them.

00:13:53.080 But first off, you know, I've already gone – I've already bucked the libertarian, you know, trend and said that I think that the border does need to be secured, that I'm not an open borders libertarian.

00:14:02.960 So I think that that's, like, square one.

00:14:05.900 You need to secure the border.

00:14:07.160 If they do that – and if they can't do that, then, like, we can't win wars either.

00:14:13.740 Like, if you can't secure your own borders, you have no business empire building.

00:14:18.100 It's absurd.

00:14:18.940 It should have never been this way in the first place.

00:14:20.600 So that's square one.

00:14:21.840 You secure the borders.

00:14:22.800 I do think that the deportation orders, particularly the targeted ones, the way that they're handling it currently, they're going after people with criminal records.

00:14:29.960 And not just, like, criminal in that they came to the country illegally, but, in fact, violent crimes and things of that nature.

00:14:35.840 I think deporting those people is absolutely necessary.

00:14:38.060 Obviously, in that will encompass many of the cartel members.

00:14:42.060 And then the opioid issue, I'm curious, actually, to hear what you guys think.

00:14:46.460 Because it's not so simple or obvious to me that it is strictly a cartel or Mexican cartel issue when it comes to fentanyl.

00:14:55.840 You have all of these rumors about it being China that is involved because they create the precursors.

00:15:03.500 I don't know if that's fully true.

00:15:05.980 This is a lot of, like, propaganda that we're dealing with.

00:15:08.200 So what do you guys think?

00:15:09.740 Do you think this is, like, what incentive does the Mexican drug cartels have to continue to funnel fentanyl, given that it is now jeopardizing their entire operation?

00:15:21.160 Like, that doesn't make sense to me.

00:15:22.680 So if I were to speculate on that, I don't necessarily have an answer for that, but I would speculate that they're in tied with the deep state.

00:15:28.860 And the reason that I suspect that is because I don't think it's any coincidence.

00:15:31.360 We already have precedent for the Iran-Contra wars and flooding the hood with cocaine in order to fund them and, you know, supplying people like Freeway Ricky Ross.

00:15:39.620 He learns how to create crack cocaine.

00:15:41.520 He literally creates the crack epidemic of the 80s in the black community.

00:15:44.600 And I don't think that it's a surprise or a coincidence that during a time when the opioid epidemic was starting here in the United States, we were in charge of the largest concentration of poppy fields in the world in Afghanistan.

00:15:58.200 And so I would argue that this entire thing was spurred on by some element of our own government.

00:16:05.160 So the question, what then does the Mexican cartel gain from doing a thing like that, it entirely depends on what deal they've made with who I would argue are the people that kick this ball off to begin with.

00:16:16.900 So I don't think that this thing is happening to us.

00:16:21.980 I think it's being done to us.

00:16:23.720 And I think that we're going to find as we go down that these things are tied together.

00:16:28.080 This this cartel, this deep state thing that Top was talking about.

00:16:31.020 I think they're going to find more and more evidence for that.

00:16:33.320 I think it's probably one of the many things that they they control.

00:16:36.280 Yeah, dude, it's like we have I mean, we have gangs from a foreign country doing human sacrifice on our land.

00:16:42.860 And it is as soon as as close as like 2019.

00:16:46.900 But it's it's it is it's insane because it's a you're going to need to fill me in because I don't know what you're talking about.

00:16:54.160 Oh, there was a there were two girls killed.

00:16:56.640 I mean, there's been a couple instances of this where I think it's like this is MS-13 stuff.

00:17:01.520 Oh, oh, yes.

00:17:02.300 OK, I remember those stories.

00:17:03.420 Yeah.

00:17:03.500 But now that we have like Tren de Agua and there's like a couple more different types of gang, this is it's all cartel related business.

00:17:09.240 Also, the Columbia stuff is kind of an interesting overlap now.

00:17:11.840 Right.

00:17:12.140 Because this is the first time you've ever sounded Puerto Rican.

00:17:14.760 I loved it.

00:17:15.480 Tren de Agua.

00:17:17.200 I'm actually Tren de Agua.

00:17:18.580 Don't don't deport me.

00:17:20.820 But he did that way too easy.

00:17:23.040 I've been watching a lot of better call.

00:17:24.680 So, OK, yeah, well, let's let's update the people that aren't forever online like us.

00:17:29.980 And Columbia, basically, there's been deportation flights that have been going from the U.S. to Columbia, as well as much of Latin America.

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00:18:21.320 Trump changed the protocols without getting authorization from the president of Columbia, and he sent a military flight with the deportees in handcuffs.

00:18:32.660 I really like that energy, dude.

00:18:34.360 I really like that energy.

00:18:35.680 Pretty hardcore.

00:18:37.480 Needless to say, the socialist leader of Columbia, Petro, did not like that.

00:18:43.220 He immediately told them, you cannot land.

00:18:46.820 Trump did not like that.

00:18:48.320 He then told them, I'm going to immediately revoke all of your visas for your diplomats and put a travel ban and 25% tariffs, and it'll up to 50% in seven days if you don't address this.

00:18:59.400 And then in less than two hours, the president of Columbia sent the Air Force Uno to come and get his deportees.

00:19:07.540 And I was like, this is fucking nuts, man.

00:19:10.060 Is it the same guy that was spotted holding hands with a transgender woman?

00:19:14.760 Yep.

00:19:15.060 Oh, okay.

00:19:15.480 Yes.

00:19:16.260 Interesting.

00:19:16.880 Interesting that he folded that quickly.

00:19:18.460 Definitely not gay.

00:19:19.320 Right.

00:19:19.520 I'm sure there's no correlation there.

00:19:21.080 I think we could also talk about, so all right, when we're talking about Columbia, we can talk about the kind of original cartels that were running cocaine into the United States.

00:19:29.960 And it's from this country.

00:19:31.460 Columbia was the hotbed, yeah.

00:19:32.520 Yeah, but it goes so much deeper than just drugs.

00:19:35.660 Like, I know libertarians want to get caught up because they want to do their fentanyl or whatever the fuck they're doing.

00:19:40.020 But these people have, they've influenced our society in so many different ways besides, you know, like importing this weird Santeria stuff, like the Santa Muerte that they bring in with all this.

00:19:50.960 It's very dark.

00:19:52.180 It even has, like, some roots that I'm trying to tie to Thalema or possibly Aleister Crowley, which was, that's...

00:19:57.780 I'm literally scamming through the FBI's page right now, finding no ending of correlations between the cartel and inspired ritualistic killings.

00:20:06.800 Santa Muerte inspired and ritualistic killings.

00:20:09.720 So this is something that, yeah, I mean...

00:20:11.060 I mean, they're...

00:20:11.880 It was on the FBI's radar.

00:20:13.120 The tenants of Santa Muerte, which they all follow, are very much, it's very close to, do as thou will, that will be the entirety of the law, which is an Aleister Crowley type thing.

00:20:24.020 And Aleister Crowley was a CIA plant who had ties to, who's this guy from World War I, like Churchill.

00:20:30.280 He went to school with Churchill.

00:20:31.300 I mean, this stinks like shit of government operations.

00:20:36.100 And it is.

00:20:36.760 We know that it's a government operation.

00:20:38.320 We know that they're funding these black ops.

00:20:39.880 But the question, I think, goes, again, it's the government does this all the time, or the deep state does this.

00:20:44.720 They create a knot so big, and then they create, you know, they create shit all around it.

00:20:51.400 And then they go, do you want to untie that?

00:20:53.380 Or do you want to just leave that there?

00:20:54.920 And if we want to have a functioning society, we've got to untie that, like, to track back to what Colombia was doing.

00:21:00.420 They've influenced...

00:21:01.540 You know how girls, like the girls that we see here, have, like, big tits, big fake butts?

00:21:06.520 This is Colombian stuff.

00:21:08.620 They started with the plastic surgery to kind of originate that, because the drug dealers that were running drugs down here to Texas liked some of the white girls that had big tits.

00:21:17.460 Then they put that over there.

00:21:19.360 And now people go fly over there to get this.

00:21:21.400 It's that pervasive.

00:21:23.360 So, and again...

00:21:24.540 Brazilian butt lift, but yes.

00:21:26.440 Right, but you can go to Colombia to get it.

00:21:28.820 I mean, I'm sure other countries do it now.

00:21:30.760 Oh, sure, sure.

00:21:31.040 So, it's not just drugs.

00:21:33.460 It's culture.

00:21:34.740 Our movies.

00:21:35.660 Our music.

00:21:36.800 It's all drug culture.

00:21:38.540 Like, if we want to talk about Make America Great Again, we cannot...

00:21:42.160 It cannot be with the bones of a cartel or really a CIA dark ops culture.

00:21:48.980 It's got to be removed.

00:21:50.000 It's a cancer.

00:21:50.580 It's got to be removed right from the source.

00:21:53.660 How do you do it, though?

00:21:55.120 It's interesting, too.

00:21:56.120 I'm sorry to interrupt, Top.

00:21:57.440 But, all right.

00:21:58.120 So, we're talking about Venezuela a little bit.

00:22:01.280 But, what was it, El Salvador, where you had that instance of the president purging all of the MS-13 members because he found at the top of it was Satanism.

00:22:11.600 They were sacrificing children.

00:22:13.260 I just think it's interesting because...

00:22:15.280 Well, that's a...

00:22:15.780 Listen, I will say, well, let's preface this to the audience that's not as conspiratorial as us.

00:22:22.300 Because Bukele did that.

00:22:24.220 He said that to Tucker Carlson.

00:22:26.000 But, it came off to me as very, like, satanic panic.

00:22:29.140 He's trying to invoke that in people.

00:22:31.700 Like, but it is true.

00:22:33.460 But, he said it because he wants to have a reaction from people to say, we got to get these people the hell out of here.

00:22:39.120 They are doing human sacrifice.

00:22:40.900 But, it is kind of a, hey, you know, let's move on this.

00:22:44.060 This is something that everybody's been aware of to some degree.

00:22:46.600 Like I said, the FBI, right, has all these.

00:22:48.280 And so, but the way they did it was as if to move to the public, to shift public opinion, I think.

00:22:53.740 Well, you got to keep in mind, too, Tucker Carlson's audience is still largely Christian conservative.

00:22:57.640 So, that will appeal to them tremendously.

00:23:00.380 So, he knows his audience.

00:23:01.600 Yes, yes.

00:23:02.500 It's worth mentioning here, we're talking about this deep state thing, right?

00:23:05.140 There's a gang, a Venezuelan gang, called Tren de Aragua.

00:23:10.360 I think I'm pronouncing that right.

00:23:11.820 Tren de Aragua.

00:23:13.220 Okay.

00:23:13.840 So, so, Aragua.

00:23:16.400 And they're finding out, allegedly, that this is actually breaking as of, like, two hours ago.

00:23:21.940 These gangs are being backed and funded by the Venezuelan government to create some sort of next dimension warfare asset.

00:23:31.040 I mean, that's language that Alex Jones is using, but obviously, this isn't a surprising idea.

00:23:38.040 The idea that a government would use – oh, don't look at that.

00:23:40.480 Those are just African people on each other's shoulders.

00:23:43.680 But this idea that a government would use gangs in order to push whatever agenda kind of create maybe – what would you call it?

00:23:52.160 Like where you would infiltrate a protest movement with an agent provocateur.

00:23:58.400 It's basically the idea of, like, an agent provocateur but on a large scale utilizing a gang.

00:24:03.120 So, it's like a Hegelian dialect, right, problem, reaction, solution, or they create the problem using this gang.

00:24:09.520 The public reacts and then the Venezuelan government swoops in and offers a solution.

00:24:13.120 That's not new.

00:24:14.980 That's kind of an old playbook.

00:24:16.680 So, once again, just plays into the idea that that's more than likely what we're doing here with the deep state.

00:24:22.020 Let me interject, though, because that's exactly my point, is that I think you guys are falling prey to the Hegelian dialectic, and the offered solution will basically limit our rights domestically, create a ton of conflict, put a ton of money in the military industrial complex coffers, and also enable additional surveillance tools and things of that nature that violate our rights.

00:24:45.080 So, let me also add – oh, go ahead.

00:24:48.880 I was just going to say, you're not completely incorrect.

00:24:51.700 It's just that I look at these from a point of view of, like, this is an unstoppable thing.

00:24:57.220 Whatever's unfolding right now, that's like standing in the way of the Patriot Act.

00:25:01.220 You know, it would have been to defier the most you would have been able to say as I opposed it.

00:25:05.900 Still a good idea to do, though.

00:25:07.360 I mean, Patriot Act is definitely a disaster.

00:25:10.280 No, I agree.

00:25:10.980 I agree.

00:25:11.260 I think the people that tell the truth, even when it's unpopular, even when the fight isn't able to be won, they then are listened to 10 or 20 years down the road.

00:25:19.960 That's the whole legacy of Ron Paul.

00:25:21.840 And the better aspects of the libertarian movement is that when we oppose the war on terror, we were called un-American and traitors and everything else.

00:25:29.680 I'm going to suffer that same fate when it comes to the inevitable war, as you see it, with Mexico or the cartels.

00:25:36.080 I still think it's the right position to hold.

00:25:39.040 And, you know, yeah, at the end of the day, I have one voice and I may not prevail.

00:25:43.660 There still may be a fight.

00:25:45.080 But I think that it's like the risk-reward on this is really lopsided.

00:25:50.440 And let me add, too, because I didn't really get to the other details of how I would remedy this.

00:25:54.500 Like, so we don't know where the fentanyl is or like who is actually responsible for this CIA, CCP, cartels, all of them working in tandem.

00:26:04.940 I'm not sure.

00:26:06.040 My answer, as always, and I know this is one that you guys both oppose, but I genuinely believe that if you want to defund these organizations, you need to legalize these drugs.

00:26:14.900 And I don't mean legalize in the sense of Colorado or California, where you add on top of that so much taxes that there's still a black market, the cartels still function, and they're still doing fine.

00:26:25.140 I mean, actually legalize and not tax and just drive the prices of cocaine and heroin and everything through the floor.

00:26:33.440 Then reallocate all of the resources from DEA to treatment facilities to help with the homeless.

00:26:40.540 Then also, simultaneously, you need to make it illegal to be on public land for weeks or months.

00:26:49.300 Basically make it so that the homeless can no longer camp out and destroy these cities.

00:26:53.800 This is a very unpopular libertarian position to hold, but I genuinely believe it's right.

00:26:57.960 I think that public property ought to be treated as if it was held by a private owner.

00:27:04.680 And yeah, I'll stop ranting.

00:27:06.780 But I think those would be the holistic libertarian approaches that remedy much of this without having a hot war with the cartels.

00:27:15.260 And let me just add one other variable, which I know you guys are already familiar with.

00:27:18.460 But as I've said, the cartels are already embedded in every major city and most small towns in America.

00:27:25.020 So if you expect to have kind of a war on terror, but a war on cartels style attack on this, and if you believe that these people are in fact terrorists, which I don't, but some of them are certainly capable of terroristic type activity.

00:27:43.360 They've hung, you know, politicians and police in Mexico, and they do that to send a message, obviously, because they're defending their territory.

00:27:52.680 And they're, you know, like they're not Al Qaeda, but they are very dangerous.

00:27:59.720 They are here.

00:28:01.340 That is the big difference between that and the war on terror.

00:28:03.640 There was always this argument that, oh, we have these sleeper cells and we're going to be struck at any moment.

00:28:08.080 And it was like, that was a lie over and over again that there was not, you know, hundreds and thousands of sleeper cells that were all across the United States.

00:28:15.160 If there were, we would have had a series of attacks for every couple months for the entire 20 years that we were in Afghanistan.

00:28:22.680 It didn't happen because I don't think that that was ever true.

00:28:26.000 This is different.

00:28:27.160 The cartels are fucking here.

00:28:28.640 I know that for a fact because they funnel their drugs here and everybody buys the drugs.

00:28:32.000 So they're definitely here.

00:28:33.380 So I think that that's the one thing that concerns me most about this is that if they do decide to fight back, like say you start to run predator drones over Jalisco and you're like going after one of the leaders of the cartel.

00:28:45.340 Do you think that they will just sit on their hands and take that?

00:28:48.240 I don't think they will.

00:28:49.180 I think I think that they will escalate in hopes of deescalating, basically saying we're not going to just bear all of the brunt of your CIA operations and your black ops and your Navy SEALs coming and fucking us up.

00:29:01.020 We're going to make it so that the American population has to deal with this, too.

00:29:04.080 Now, what will happen with that?

00:29:05.640 Certainly it'll inflame the passions of the American people and they'll say, fuck these people, invade Mexico and do, you know, take that on.

00:29:12.400 Well, there's, I don't know, 80 million innocent people or however fucking many people there are in Mexico that I don't really want to have put them in a position of, you know, the Iraqis, which is kind of what we're talking about.

00:29:22.360 So I just feel like people are being like, it's very, it's very reminiscent to me, particularly as an old head who lived as a, you know, barely an adult through 9-11.

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00:30:12.360 Hashtag make a play.

00:30:15.100 The vibe is so similar.

00:30:17.260 I'm telling you.

00:30:18.240 Like, I know you guys were younger when it happened, but I'm telling you, as a young man and the energy of like, we got hit on 9-11, let's just fucking go kill somebody.

00:30:26.020 Very similar to how people are reacting to the fentanyl crisis and saying, I've lost a cousin, I've lost a father, a son, and they're just like, let's kill.

00:30:36.560 And I'm just cautioning people.

00:30:38.760 One of my buddies from back home just died within two weeks ago, some kid that I grew up with.

00:30:43.820 So this is a really...

00:30:45.020 It's terrible.

00:30:46.100 It happens.

00:30:46.400 Can you pull up the video that I have down here, Clint?

00:30:48.920 Sure.

00:30:49.320 And I just want to say, because I have a feeling Top's going to have a lot to say on this, as far as my opinion on these things, I also don't believe that we should be engaging in a hot war.

00:30:58.400 I don't believe that we should be...

00:31:00.040 Like, it is the same thing.

00:31:01.340 Like, even the idea of terrorists, right?

00:31:03.460 By definition, you're never going to win a war on terror.

00:31:06.520 Terror is a state of mind.

00:31:07.220 Or a war on drugs.

00:31:09.040 Or the war on drugs.

00:31:10.080 You're never going to win that either.

00:31:11.240 I don't agree with starting this large-scale thing.

00:31:16.040 I just recognize it as being...

00:31:18.080 That's good to hear.

00:31:18.120 You just think it's inevitable.

00:31:19.320 Okay.

00:31:19.960 I think it's inevitable, right?

00:31:20.960 Here, go ahead, Tom.

00:31:22.240 But we're over there fighting and dying over that border, looking for problems.

00:31:26.900 Why don't we take those resources and quit pretending we can defend those borders and put them on our borders and take care of our needs here?

00:31:34.920 Okay, so there's Ron Paul talking about sort of what I'm saying.

00:31:40.780 And I'm not...

00:31:41.500 Again, I don't...

00:31:42.800 Who wants a war with your neighbor?

00:31:45.880 And it's who wants a war with your neighbor that's literally your neighbor, not somebody just across a southern border.

00:31:50.620 They're here.

00:31:51.580 But I'm also very aware that the fact that they are here.

00:31:54.720 And what you said, Clint, the holistic ways to destabilize the cartel, which is the CIA, or at least, you know, they work very closely together, that's going to inflame them.

00:32:04.920 And they understand that.

00:32:06.360 Even with the cabinet picks, they understand that this is an attempt at destabilization of what they're doing.

00:32:11.960 And it's like...

00:32:13.140 Oh, I think if you were to legalize drugs, there would be false flag attacks to try and make...

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00:33:41.260 This war happened faster.

00:33:44.280 I do.

00:33:44.860 We are in it.

00:33:45.840 That's probably unpopular amongst, you know, the decriminalization camp, but I think it's true.

00:33:50.300 We're in it.

00:33:50.960 We're, as far as I'm concerned, what Trump did was, instead of like these false flag attacks, it almost makes it like, well, here's the guy that's doing it.

00:33:59.360 Because, yeah, we are going to get false flag attacks.

00:34:01.120 And it'll probably be coming from freaking Mexican people.

00:34:03.160 Because we're going to be disrupting their cash flow.

00:34:06.600 And these guys don't fuck around with that.

00:34:09.000 It's part of their religion.

00:34:10.320 It's like they have, it's basically they have no morals.

00:34:12.980 They said, oh, we accept everyone.

00:34:14.380 Like, that's part of the tenets of their religion.

00:34:15.780 But it's not really, we accept the hooker, the prostitute.

00:34:18.040 It's like, they just have no standards or morals.

00:34:21.320 They worship the god of death.

00:34:22.260 Wait, who are you talking about?

00:34:22.760 The cartels?

00:34:23.580 Cartels.

00:34:24.080 This is, yeah.

00:34:24.680 The Santa Muerta stuff is.

00:34:25.720 I actually, I disagree with that.

00:34:27.600 I mean, yeah, you're certainly right.

00:34:29.440 Some of the gangs are like that.

00:34:30.960 Some of the gangs are not.

00:34:31.920 Some of the gangs really, like, run the government of Mexico.

00:34:35.580 And they, you know, they protect women and children.

00:34:38.220 They protect businesses.

00:34:38.980 It's like, it's old school Italian mob shit.

00:34:42.940 Like, but then there's also aspects of it that are, that are satanic and that they are.

00:34:47.040 Sure.

00:34:47.760 Do all sorts of wild shit.

00:34:48.800 They do that great stuff in Chihuahua, but they don't do that in Colorado.

00:34:52.700 They don't give a fuck.

00:34:54.080 They're here to make money.

00:34:55.300 They don't, they, again, they're not.

00:34:56.920 I agree with that.

00:34:57.740 Yeah.

00:34:57.900 No, the best, largely the domestic cartel members are just here to move product.

00:35:03.220 Yes.

00:35:03.660 And if you're in their way, it's a problem.

00:35:06.120 You're going to be out of their way.

00:35:07.500 So of course, this is probably also the pains of like, if we really are seeing Trump wrestling

00:35:12.380 with this deep state and these things are all connected, then, you know, we're going

00:35:15.340 to see a lot more of this.

00:35:16.620 And so in that, in that way, I'm not advocating it for it, but I do wonder if we are to see

00:35:21.600 this thing, this element within our own government torn out by the roots and cast it out where

00:35:25.800 we're going to see a lot of apparatus that's attached to them, go with them and they're going

00:35:29.100 to go kicking and screaming.

00:35:30.100 So are we going to see more of this, but I want to ask you something, it's a war we

00:35:33.960 can win.

00:35:35.040 It's a, it's a, it's a war that we can win.

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00:36:17.960 Hashtag make a play.

00:36:19.460 It's going to, but it's going to be nasty.

00:36:22.960 And that's the thing, man.

00:36:23.900 It's going to be here, too, on our own soil.

00:36:26.100 So, um, from, you know, Obama's...

00:36:28.680 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, after everything I just said about all of the other wars that

00:36:31.820 we've just lived through, why do you, why is this war winnable?

00:36:34.980 Because I don't see it.

00:36:35.620 Because it's an actual war.

00:36:37.300 It's a war that we have to win.

00:36:38.940 It's a war for your country.

00:36:40.440 It's inside of your country.

00:36:41.740 It's going to happen.

00:36:42.880 The people have expressed their displeasure with the way the government has been run.

00:36:47.220 And the government, from the Obama administration, and then the entire Joe Biden administration,

00:36:51.680 has done their best to flood this country with illegals.

00:36:55.580 That was done on purpose, dude.

00:36:56.980 This is a time bomb.

00:36:58.400 I agree with that, yeah.

00:36:59.340 They flooded the country with enemy combatant fighters that are their soldiers.

00:37:04.440 Military-aged men.

00:37:05.060 Military-aged men that are their soldiers that are on their payroll, dude.

00:37:08.500 And it's the shadow government that we don't want.

00:37:11.460 And honestly, I don't even think the votes are correct.

00:37:15.680 We were speaking to Jonathan Herald the other day.

00:37:19.200 I think it was like 79 million votes for Trump and something like 76 for Harris.

00:37:23.900 I think that there were a lot more for Trump.

00:37:26.840 I think it was...

00:37:27.460 Oh, interesting.

00:37:28.080 Yeah, I think that these numbers are skewed.

00:37:30.440 I think that the people in the United States have had enough.

00:37:32.760 The people in the United States are not retarded.

00:37:34.620 I think that they've had enough.

00:37:35.940 And the sentiment is showing that.

00:37:37.680 Even the popular media, which I'm outspoken against,

00:37:40.600 like the Andrew Scholes and people like that who are now pro-Trump or whatever it is.

00:37:45.760 It doesn't matter.

00:37:46.940 The sentiment has now moved towards this right...

00:37:49.340 The right wing.

00:37:50.340 And not the old right wing.

00:37:51.660 It's moved toward this America first sort of sentiment.

00:37:54.140 Which could be very dangerous.

00:37:55.540 And it's going to be dangerous because it's going to be used against us.

00:37:58.320 But what do you do?

00:38:00.400 The wheels have been set in motion.

00:38:02.260 We've been...

00:38:02.740 So we've been presented with...

00:38:04.920 Here, these are your choices.

00:38:06.680 You can eat shit.

00:38:07.940 And we can continue as we are.

00:38:09.220 But it seems like the people have decided that they don't want that anymore.

00:38:12.060 So any kind of improvements that we make are going to be met with false flag psyop after psyop.

00:38:17.360 And then we're going to be left holding the bag, confused why this is happening.

00:38:21.480 We know why it's happening.

00:38:22.300 It feels a lot like it's either eat shit or you can walk through that fire over there.

00:38:26.840 But I want to ask you...

00:38:27.900 When do you want to walk through the fire, Clint?

00:38:29.440 I mean, this is...

00:38:30.420 Again, I don't want to...

00:38:31.200 Who wants to go to war?

00:38:32.680 I don't want to have a gun in my hand and have to fight.

00:38:34.560 But when do you want to walk through it?

00:38:36.320 They've already set up the coals.

00:38:38.040 And they're like, the more we wait, they're just getting hotter, man.

00:38:40.980 We're going to have to cross this...

00:38:42.040 Same idea with the financial bubble, right?

00:38:43.880 It's like, do we keep allowing it to inflate?

00:38:46.140 Or do we just face the fucking music at some point?

00:38:48.360 But you said something earlier, Clint, about...

00:38:50.660 You mentioned the culture and this kind of sentiment right now of going to war with the cartel.

00:38:55.540 And it almost sounded like...

00:38:56.580 And I feel like we're agreeing about a lot of things here.

00:38:58.360 It almost sounded like you suggested it was a product of where we are culturally.

00:39:03.480 When I...

00:39:03.880 And I don't want to put words in your mouth.

00:39:05.260 I just want to say what that evokes in my mind is this idea that we are being, whether

00:39:10.420 it's MKUltrad or whatever, down this path to engineer public sentiment about a thing.

00:39:14.860 And it's been welling up beneath the surface by design until we get to this point where

00:39:19.660 this fucking thing is happening on the horizon.

00:39:21.460 And it's almost inevitable, but it's certainly like you were saying with the 9-11 idea.

00:39:25.040 It's like, we got to go over there and kill them because they engineered that sentiment

00:39:27.920 within us.

00:39:28.400 And I feel like I've been watching that unfold on Twitter for the past...

00:39:31.980 I don't know how long.

00:39:32.840 It was previously in a pressure cooker.

00:39:35.240 We weren't allowed to talk about it.

00:39:36.540 And then Twitter was the release valve.

00:39:38.260 But I'd be interested in knowing a little bit more.

00:39:40.240 What did you mean by that?

00:39:41.460 Or am I mischaracterizing?

00:39:42.560 Yeah.

00:39:42.880 Well, no.

00:39:43.340 I mean, certainly some aspects of that.

00:39:45.420 But then also, I think that the culture is that we've been beaten down for so long that

00:39:52.680 we're finally on top.

00:39:54.260 And now we got to take it out on somebody.

00:39:56.340 There's a lot of resentment.

00:39:58.320 There's a lot of anger that's built up in the American people, especially young men in

00:40:01.700 this country.

00:40:02.700 And I'm fearful.

00:40:05.220 There's this tendency, particularly when we are starting to identify that there are people

00:40:10.520 in our own government that are our enemy and that perceive us as their enemies and that

00:40:14.060 they've been doing everything in their power to subjugate and destroy us, that they would

00:40:18.240 very much like for us to point that energy abroad.

00:40:22.140 That's what they do historically.

00:40:24.320 This is the whole divide and conquer tactic.

00:40:25.980 So that's more what I mean is that the culture is one of kind of this almost revivalist where

00:40:33.520 and you can feel it with people talking about like Trump, oh, he bitch slapped the president

00:40:41.100 of Colombia.

00:40:41.680 And, uh, and now we're going to take over Iceland and we're going to, uh, you know, rename

00:40:46.780 the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

00:40:48.940 And, and like all this shit is like, it's just, to me, it's, it's indicative of a culture

00:40:56.560 that was like beat down.

00:40:58.360 And now we want to, we want to demonstrate that we're still powerful, that we still have

00:41:02.580 something about us.

00:41:03.400 That's like conquest oriented.

00:41:05.100 And unfortunately, like the, the male instinct is one of like, when you're doing well, you're

00:41:10.640 conquering and I'm of the, of the opinion that like, we're not actually doing well enough

00:41:15.460 to even consider conquering other lands.

00:41:17.900 Like we have so much domestically that's, that's wrong that if we don't get our own household

00:41:23.300 in order, we're going to go through the final innings of inevitable empire collapse while

00:41:29.800 trying to take on, you know, Greenland and whatever, all with the intention of an eventual

00:41:36.280 world war to decide who will be the global hegemon.

00:41:38.960 Cause I genuinely believe that's what that's about.

00:41:41.080 I mean, the only reason you want that landmass is because it's up near the Arctic or whatever

00:41:45.620 the Northern, I think it's the Arctic.

00:41:47.380 Is that the Arctic?

00:41:48.340 Um, because it's bad geographically.

00:41:51.460 Yeah, it's, well, I got Columbia spelled wrong yesterday and got destroyed for it.

00:41:55.060 So, um, but anyway, that's how we spell it now, Clint.

00:41:58.420 That's right.

00:41:58.960 We changed it.

00:41:59.460 That's what you tell people.

00:42:00.020 Like the jacket.

00:42:00.400 That's how we fucking spell it.

00:42:02.200 It's the Gulf of America and it's Columbia.

00:42:04.880 Fuck you.

00:42:05.660 Um, but anyways, I, I think that that's what, uh, Iceland's all about is like, that is,

00:42:10.140 that is definitely an attack vector for Russia and, and more broadly China.

00:42:14.100 Uh, by the way, I got to bring up too that the, uh, the deep seek AI, uh, did you guys

00:42:20.600 hear about this?

00:42:21.600 Uh, only briefly.

00:42:22.580 It's like a Chinese AI that is outpacing a chat GPT or open, open AI.

00:42:27.320 Oh yeah.

00:42:28.360 Yeah.

00:42:28.640 I heard somebody got duped by it.

00:42:30.240 So we're, we're putting together billions and billions, if not trillions of dollars of

00:42:35.220 resources.

00:42:35.680 We're using these, you know, computer processors that are top of the line and we're doing all

00:42:40.720 this shit, just, just spending, uh, as if it's an arms race.

00:42:44.880 Cause it really is.

00:42:45.580 Cause it's really to like decide who's going to control the next century.

00:42:48.460 And the Chinese come through and they just go, Hey, um, we're just going to drop a couple

00:42:54.480 decimals off of the, uh, like the calculations and sure it'll only be 90% as accurate, but

00:43:01.400 it'll actually be like 500% more efficient.

00:43:04.620 And that's what they did.

00:43:05.880 And with like 5 million bucks, they created a better AI called deep seek than our most advanced

00:43:11.700 AI, which we had put like a trillion dollars into.

00:43:14.540 Let me just say the economy, the economy is plummeting today as a consequence of that.

00:43:19.600 Right.

00:43:19.880 NVIDIA, all of these stocks are just plummeting.

00:43:21.880 I downloaded it.

00:43:23.040 I made an account because I have no loyalty to whatever the fuck these technocrats are

00:43:27.000 doing.

00:43:27.440 I put in our latest episode transcript with Jonathan Herald, where we talked about Donald

00:43:32.180 Trump and this executive order and all this.

00:43:34.320 And guess what?

00:43:35.520 They said, we can't do anything with this because it violates our terms.

00:43:39.240 So fuck you.

00:43:40.200 I put it in chat GPT, maybe a very nice summary.

00:43:43.540 We have that episode coming out in a few days.

00:43:45.840 So, you know, use it if you want to.

00:43:47.240 I don't know if it's faster or whatever, but it's just more Chinese bullshit.

00:43:50.160 That's, that's what I'll say about it.

00:43:51.320 I did one thing with that.

00:43:52.180 I was like, fuck this.

00:43:53.340 I deleted the app.

00:43:54.480 No, and, and you might be right.

00:43:56.040 And I mean, most of our AIs have similar, uh, you know, safety precautions and rail guards.

00:44:02.200 So, you know, it is what it is.

00:44:03.760 Anyways, the reason I bring it up is like, it's just, to me, it's another example.

00:44:08.560 And maybe you're right, maybe this is like snake oil and China hasn't actually kicked

00:44:12.140 our ass the way they have.

00:44:13.100 But I've read a lot of like lengthy threads by people that are experts in the AI field.

00:44:16.480 And they're convinced that, yes, we're getting our fucking teeth kicked in by the Chinese

00:44:19.740 doing it with, you know, a fraction of the money, uh, with a fraction of the team, the

00:44:24.300 fraction of the resources, fraction of the government involvement.

00:44:27.380 And then they just made it open source to prove that like, yeah, we're fucking crushing

00:44:31.960 you guys.

00:44:32.500 Good luck.

00:44:33.320 Um, so does it matter though?

00:44:34.520 The idea that we would associate this thing with we, we getting our asses kicked.

00:44:37.980 It's like Elon Musk said it himself, right?

00:44:39.720 We, we are, uh, uh, summoning the demon or some shit like that is the language that he

00:44:43.980 used when he talked about the development of AI.

00:44:45.740 It's like, can we, whatever happens, whoever gets there first, this thing is going to become

00:44:49.880 a worldwide phenomenon.

00:44:51.260 Hold on, hold on.

00:44:51.800 Our overlord.

00:44:52.940 Same, hold on, hold on.

00:44:54.400 Same argument with the nuclear bomb though.

00:44:56.300 And it is irrefutable that yes, that was hard harness.

00:44:59.940 I mean, this isn't irrefutable.

00:45:01.360 This was probably more in alignment with your spiritual beliefs, but certainly from my vantage point,

00:45:05.300 even as a non-religious person, like that was harnessing the power of demons.

00:45:10.460 Like that was, that was ultimate, ultimate power at the time.

00:45:13.880 And as a consequence of that though, despite my objections to nuclear weaponry, uh, as a

00:45:21.300 consequence, America became the global hegemon for the next 75 years.

00:45:24.200 So I, I disagree with your assessment that this doesn't matter.

00:45:27.980 That like, whoever gets the top of the line AI will be in the catbird seat.

00:45:33.680 I think it does matter, but I'm also very suspicious.

00:45:36.620 Hold on, can I just say, how long is that going to be guys?

00:45:39.460 A month?

00:45:40.380 Think about where we even having this conversation around AI two years ago, two years ago, it

00:45:44.540 was creating images that were so obtuse.

00:45:46.560 It didn't even, it was like a laughable thing that this would ever be utilized for any serious

00:45:50.360 purpose.

00:45:50.720 And now here we sit where it's like creating videos and images that are indiscernible

00:45:54.580 from, you know, reality, um, in one year it's going to be done.

00:45:59.420 I don't know what it's going to be, but yeah, it made us the global hegemon for 75 years.

00:46:03.980 This is going to make somebody the global hegemon for about an afternoon before the, the fucking

00:46:08.680 again, I disagree though, because this, the, the way it works is that whoever creates the

00:46:13.900 first one that is truly self-learning will be at such a competitive advantage that it'll,

00:46:19.620 it'll self-teach.

00:46:20.820 So it'll, it'll grow exponentially.

00:46:22.860 So whoever gets that lead maintains that lead in perpetuity, theoretically.

00:46:27.140 Um, now they can keep it under control.

00:46:29.720 Can you pull up the picture that I put there?

00:46:31.460 Uh, sure.

00:46:32.380 Yeah.

00:46:32.800 This is just a little quick aside.

00:46:33.900 Really?

00:46:34.200 We're going to do this.

00:46:34.940 This was, this was AI in 2012.

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00:47:38.280 So this is before we even knew about this shit.

00:47:40.660 The government, I see, listen, I guess it's conspiracy, I guess it's conspiracy, but can

00:47:46.300 we, I, can we agree on a soft, soft, softly agree that the government kind of operates

00:47:51.560 10 years ahead of us.

00:47:52.580 So what they just showed us, like what China just showed us, I don't think that that's

00:47:57.720 everything that like they have.

00:47:59.680 It's not everything that we have.

00:48:00.520 Whatever they really have.

00:48:01.460 This is smoke and mirrors.

00:48:02.500 This is what we got.

00:48:03.600 Maybe.

00:48:04.000 This is what we have as a people.

00:48:05.500 So what they're working with, God only knows.

00:48:07.440 I hope you're right, but I'm not, I'm not sure though.

00:48:09.040 I mean, well, I think it's the same way, uh, Clint, that you're, you're saying that there's

00:48:13.440 a, some degree of cultural engineering within the public sentiment to be down with murdering

00:48:18.560 the cartel or, you know, waging war against the cartel is the same way, uh, that we, we

00:48:23.880 just, we have these, these things.

00:48:25.940 We're not, um, I don't know how to put it.

00:48:28.180 Like we're not, um, uh, no, I, I don't have a good, a good way of framing this.

00:48:34.920 Uh, uh, you got it.

00:48:38.360 I don't know what, what's that top.

00:48:40.340 So you can do it.

00:48:41.160 Somebody saved me from this.

00:48:42.020 I had, I had an analogy, but I realized it was, it was bullshit and it, and it fell apart,

00:48:46.120 uh, in my hands.

00:48:47.300 It's gone.

00:48:48.400 That's never stopped you in the past.

00:48:50.140 No, I was going to go.

00:48:51.420 I was like, you can ramble your way through this.

00:48:53.160 Fucking found out I can't.

00:48:54.400 All right.

00:48:54.840 Well, anyways, uh, look, I, I think I understand your position top, but let's make it explicit.

00:48:59.860 Are you saying that we ought to just go to war with the cartels?

00:49:04.780 No, I I'm saying that it's inevitable, but I'm saying, uh, basically declaring a war with

00:49:10.060 the cartels is, it just seems to make sense because it's where we're headed.

00:49:13.640 Anyway, if you want to improve the country in any meaningful way, we're going to be going

00:49:17.960 to war.

00:49:18.400 And I think what I think is, is that it will be the cartels.

00:49:20.980 It will be, it'll be the people that have been, uh, implanted in this country over the

00:49:25.580 last four years.

00:49:26.420 The enemy combatants, the ones that are paid by the people who hate us, it will be those

00:49:31.080 people that will be going to war with us.

00:49:32.480 So what, what do we do about it?

00:49:34.460 You have to root.

00:49:35.840 Can we pull this up?

00:49:36.680 I think this is actually a good, um, contributed to the conversation.

00:49:40.660 Uh, so this is something that's gone viral in the past couple of days.

00:49:43.180 It's a series of, of coordinates you could put into, uh, Google earth and you can find

00:49:48.100 this, what appears to be a lumber yard or something like that in LA.

00:49:50.820 I actually looked this up.

00:49:51.940 Uh, there's a grid mode on Google earth.

00:49:53.660 Cause it turns out you can't copy and paste the coordinates very well.

00:49:56.660 And so I was able to find this using longitude and ladder.

00:49:59.160 And this is a real thing in, uh, LA.

00:50:01.520 Now this has gone considerably viral.

00:50:03.700 I don't know.

00:50:04.020 This one has 57.4 million views.

00:50:07.200 And this was posted just yesterday.

00:50:08.740 Now, the reason that I'm highlighting this, this lumber yard, you can see there's the word

00:50:12.660 help, uh, traffic, uh, federal is something.

00:50:16.520 I don't know how you would pronounce that federals.

00:50:18.340 Um, and so DOS is also spelled among these things.

00:50:23.020 The point, the reason that I'm bringing this up, somebody is doing an investigation on it.

00:50:26.680 Uh, currently there's a guy named like LA guy.

00:50:28.700 I think his name is on X.

00:50:30.020 And he's actually doing like man on the street groundwork.

00:50:32.500 He's going up to homeless people.

00:50:33.900 He's asking them about it.

00:50:34.900 And this is a well-known phenomenon in the area.

00:50:37.280 But obviously with the words traffico and shit like that in there, uh, LAPD help, help,

00:50:42.980 help.

00:50:43.320 This is, you know, have, it has all of the trappings of a human trafficking scenario.

00:50:49.580 I bring it up because it's at 57.4 million views.

00:50:53.680 Yeah.

00:50:54.160 This is hugely important to people.

00:50:56.620 I mean, obviously it's got this bent that it's a mystery too.

00:50:59.560 People want to solve the mystery.

00:51:00.740 That's got some virality.

00:51:02.360 It's very sexy, right?

00:51:03.660 It is very sexy, but look, it's like, we're talking about, should we, could we,

00:51:07.440 we get into a war with the cartel that right there, that 57.4 million associated with

00:51:14.740 this human trafficking, uh, I think that speaks to the public sentiment.

00:51:20.940 I mean, I agree with you.

00:51:22.140 This is actually, no, this is actually a good example of why I'm right though, is that the,

00:51:25.900 the, the investigator that you talked about went there on the ground, interviewed the

00:51:30.920 homeless lady and she goes, Oh yeah, that's Jose.

00:51:33.020 He's fucking crazy.

00:51:34.040 Yeah.

00:51:34.480 Actually the guy's name was help.

00:51:35.800 So, so the guy's name was help.

00:51:37.540 And that's the idea is that there's just this crazy guy that goes and says these things.

00:51:42.720 Uh, but he starts talking to the workers.

00:51:44.440 The workers are getting pretty, um, aggravated with them.

00:51:46.720 Look, I mean, you got to admit if you're, if English isn't your first language and some

00:51:50.520 guy just comes up to you and starts asking you about who's spelling help in the lumber

00:51:54.540 yard, you're probably going to get a little uncomfortable and have some strange body language.

00:51:57.820 But the whole thing was a little uncanny when he's talking to these people.

00:52:00.600 It seems like they would much rather not talk about what's happening on the other side of

00:52:04.800 the fence.

00:52:05.100 So, I mean, yeah, it could just be this homeless guy, but I, but it doesn't matter.

00:52:09.340 Um, I, like I said, Clint, I agree with you on the idea that we shouldn't do this, but

00:52:13.120 this right here, this 57.4 million, like I said, it's not about whether or not this is

00:52:17.720 real.

00:52:18.300 It could easily be the guy's name was help.

00:52:20.720 Look, just for the audience, the way that it's kind of being explained is back in New

00:52:25.120 Jersey, um, you, I used to see a lot of common graffiti.

00:52:28.460 There would be PK.

00:52:29.500 That was the guy's name.

00:52:30.600 It was his tag, right?

00:52:31.580 And there would be kid KID.

00:52:33.160 And that was his tag.

00:52:33.980 And they would put them in crazy locations.

00:52:35.960 They're kind of saying like, help is this dude's name.

00:52:39.820 That's his, his like, you know, craze sort of artist tagger name.

00:52:43.700 Um, strange because I don't know if his middle name is Trafico or his last name is LAPD, but

00:52:47.960 he saw fit to toss those elements in there.

00:52:49.840 But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if this is real.

00:52:52.400 57.4 million people in one day.

00:52:55.380 Also.

00:52:55.900 Yeah.

00:52:56.240 Listen, it's, it's, it doesn't matter if it's, if that instance is real, but now this

00:52:59.860 is in the public conscious that's happening.

00:53:02.380 We know that we know that people are being raped like constantly.

00:53:05.760 The UN admits to it.

00:53:06.920 They were handing out rape kits to the people that were going across the border and making

00:53:10.000 the trek through Mexico and El Salvador in those places.

00:53:12.200 So this is happening.

00:53:13.740 The human trafficking thing is a huge problem.

00:53:15.840 Again, I'm not going to sit here and advocate for human trafficking.

00:53:18.980 I don't give a fuck.

00:53:20.320 But what I will say is that they're making tons of money off this shit.

00:53:23.860 And not only are they making tons of money, we know that our government's complicit.

00:53:28.080 We know that, listen, I think it's, it's fairly safe to say that some of our politicians are

00:53:32.220 partaking.

00:53:33.140 And there's also, it's also pretty fair to say that we have, you know, Alex Rosen going

00:53:37.140 out there and busting the regular pedophile.

00:53:39.320 But these people that are running these operations and getting all this money, no problem.

00:53:45.340 Actually, you know, you know who was actually busting these people?

00:53:48.020 Donald Trump, 2017, 2018, 2019.

00:53:51.560 And then we got COVID.

00:53:52.700 People forget that.

00:53:53.740 This, but people didn't know that, that the first Trump administration, there was a lot

00:53:56.940 of pedophile ring bus, but they weren't in conjunction as if it was part of a larger

00:54:01.420 operation.

00:54:01.960 And they went pretty much unreported on like they, you know, there was articles, but they

00:54:07.120 weren't sensationalized because during that administration, we were just busy with orange

00:54:10.420 man is bad.

00:54:11.040 Right.

00:54:11.300 And so most of the mainstream media wasn't commenting on it, but I was finding these articles

00:54:15.320 on a weekly basis of the Trump administration breaking up another substantial pedophile ring.

00:54:20.460 I think it's interesting that we have this article that just came out that 75,000 migrant

00:54:27.160 children have been located.

00:54:28.480 These are apparently children that the Biden administration lost track of.

00:54:32.220 I don't really know, understand what that language means.

00:54:34.320 I just saw this develop in the last couple of hours.

00:54:37.660 And I still find it hard to believe, man.

00:54:40.840 Like you can't find, like you may have found records to, you know, point you in the direction

00:54:46.100 of where these kids were, but there's no way that in a less than a week, Trump administration

00:54:50.320 found 75,000 individual children.

00:54:52.940 Let's, let's say that that's, that's, you're right.

00:54:55.520 That's not the case.

00:54:56.220 He didn't do that.

00:54:56.840 But this is, there, there, there could well be an effort to make this nature of thing

00:55:03.680 synonymous with the Trump administration.

00:55:05.900 Yeah.

00:55:06.220 And I'm not saying that.

00:55:06.800 Clearly, it's clearly there is.

00:55:08.000 And that, that was a law in alignment with the Q phenomenon and Trump played, played right

00:55:11.940 into that.

00:55:12.500 Look, I think that the human, human trafficking issue is, is one that is very challenging for

00:55:19.580 libertarians to deal with because they tend to be so anti-war.

00:55:22.420 But at the same time, like that is, no, uh, but that is, but it is also clearly, um, such

00:55:30.280 a, you know, horrific violation of human rights on every level, uh, that, that like, it has

00:55:36.520 to be stopped.

00:55:37.380 I think that the question is, how do you go about that?

00:55:40.140 And can you trust, can you trust the three letter agencies that, that either, either

00:55:45.460 participated in it, covered up for it, or are the entire operation themselves?

00:55:50.840 I don't know what, um, can you trust them?

00:55:53.600 Do you want to empower them to, you know, deal with that issue?

00:55:56.520 Like, uh, from my, from my vantage point, like I would be much more trusting if, and

00:56:01.700 this is, I know this sounds kind of crazy, but honestly, I would be much more trusting

00:56:04.660 if Trump was like, I'm going to deputize retired Navy SEALs to stop this.

00:56:10.660 Like, and not, not active, not guys looking for, for, for, for promotions, but just dudes

00:56:15.840 that are like, I want to fucking go save kids.

00:56:18.200 Yeah.

00:56:18.960 And, and we're going to give you a green light to fucking stop these, these organizations

00:56:22.700 and save these kids.

00:56:23.660 We had January six, right?

00:56:25.120 The January sixers kind of had the same idea.

00:56:27.120 Like I'm going to stop this, uh, injustice.

00:56:30.160 They went, they were smacked harder than anybody's been smacked in the last fucking hundred years.

00:56:35.440 So this is dissuading people.

00:56:37.180 That was on the, that was on the last day of Trump's presidency.

00:56:39.780 I'm talking about on day seven of Trump's presidency, him deputizing Navy SEALs to go,

00:56:44.200 Hey, I don't trust the CIA.

00:56:45.740 Like if he was being honest, this is what bothers me the most about it is Trump will give lip service

00:56:49.360 to the cartels and all this other shit, but he's not, he's not talking about what

00:56:52.560 Jill are talking about.

00:56:53.260 He's not talking about the CIA's participation.

00:56:55.700 He's not talking about operation fast and furious, uh, under Eric Holder, uh, under the Obama

00:57:00.220 administration.

00:57:00.680 He's not talking about any of this shit.

00:57:01.860 So like, there's still a level of, of not being forthright.

00:57:05.680 If he was being totally forthright, I would buy that.

00:57:08.280 Okay.

00:57:08.720 Yeah.

00:57:08.960 We're just interested in protecting these kids and stopping this process.

00:57:12.300 There's something else happening here.

00:57:13.780 Cause you're not telling me the full truth because I know that there's layers to this that

00:57:17.060 you're not telling me about.

00:57:18.100 And I know that they're real.

00:57:19.380 So can I tell you what I suspect is happening, Clint?

00:57:21.820 I, I, we talked about this either.

00:57:23.840 It was an appearance on Liberty Lockdown, uh, or it was the first pilot episode of, of,

00:57:27.900 of dangerous that we did.

00:57:28.980 But I, I told you that I believe that we were going to see the Trump train, the vindication

00:57:32.920 train continue.

00:57:33.720 And that he was vindicated even on the QAnon front is what I said.

00:57:36.940 And I think that the reason you are feeling like we're being siloed into this decision culturally

00:57:44.540 and, and legislatively like, or, or, you know, I certainly feel that way.

00:57:48.520 It's, it's been a buildup for quite some time is because this is a show on wheels on, on

00:57:54.540 a track we're being subjected to a series of events.

00:57:57.380 And I know this is going to be maybe a little bit different for your audience, but I look

00:58:02.260 at this all as, as though it's been theater and this QAnon element that, that Trump is

00:58:06.460 involved with that Clint brought up earlier is, um, a major component to this story.

00:58:11.640 And, uh, and I do think that there are some aspects of the Q phenomenon that were hyper

00:58:17.200 sensationalized and certainly carried away with by, you know, the Anons, the people that

00:58:22.640 are, um, trying to disseminate or trying to, uh, uh, dive through and, and, uh, and, and

00:58:28.220 look through this information that's being disseminated by somebody who, who seems to have

00:58:31.560 some sort of military intelligence, um, aspect to them.

00:58:34.960 I think there's a lot of truth within it.

00:58:36.920 It's just, they get carried away with all these other things.

00:58:39.400 So they have their own agenda, right?

00:58:41.480 So like, uh, just as Clint is saying, like, hi, I'm Darren Marlar host of the weird darkness

00:58:45.940 podcast.

00:58:46.520 I want to talk about the most important tool in my podcast belt.

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00:59:43.720 I think that I'm 100% right about what's going on here with the cartels and with Mexico's

00:59:49.160 allowance of it.

00:59:49.980 But what they are going to, they'll present a solution and then they'll also take more.

00:59:56.320 What they want, maybe they want some kind of global conquest.

00:59:58.920 I don't really know.

01:00:00.240 But what I'm saying-

01:00:01.060 This is going to be like the biggest version of that, right?

01:00:03.280 I mean, just imagine what the American people would consent to if it was all in the name

01:00:08.960 of saving children and it was being asked of the American people by a guy that was just

01:00:14.540 lionized to the highest degree.

01:00:16.060 It's not just in the name of saving children, David.

01:00:18.680 I mean, it is in the name of saving children.

01:00:21.200 It is in the name of fentanyl.

01:00:22.440 It is in the name of stopping.

01:00:23.940 I think methamphetamine is a drug.

01:00:25.280 Yeah, those things aren't fake.

01:00:26.400 Methamphetamine is a drug that we should not allow in the United States.

01:00:29.780 This is like, there's nothing to this.

01:00:31.560 Meth is not imported.

01:00:32.840 That's cooked here.

01:00:33.460 I mean, yes, it's imported somewhat, but there is meth labs all across this country.

01:00:38.160 I'm just saying, do drugs if you want to, but methamphetamine, it's like, dog, this is

01:00:42.400 a gateway to, it's not a gateway.

01:00:46.380 Methamphetamine and fentanyl are both absolutely life destroyers.

01:00:49.900 I mean, fentanyl is much more lethal, but fentanyl, excuse me, meth, destroys the user.

01:00:55.600 Yeah, it's a slow destruction.

01:00:57.020 A matter of, well, a matter of a few years and you're like, you're a totally different

01:01:00.160 person.

01:01:00.800 Look, I am, again, I don't think I need to argue this.

01:01:03.340 Ron Paul didn't use drugs.

01:01:04.260 I don't use drugs.

01:01:05.300 I'm not arguing for legalization for that purpose.

01:01:08.160 I'm arguing that there is market demand.

01:01:10.120 That's not going to go away.

01:01:11.440 And unless you want to live in a total police state, you're not going to get rid of these

01:01:15.180 drugs.

01:01:16.300 And also, the agencies that you're entrusting with these terrorism labels of the cartels

01:01:21.680 to go after these guys are the agencies that were participating in the drug trafficking

01:01:26.800 operation from its inception.

01:01:29.360 So there is just, there is a layers to this that I think you guys understand, but a lot

01:01:34.260 of the MAGA folks that are like, oh, the FBI is good and the fucking CIA is good.

01:01:39.200 They're just not thinking this thing through.

01:01:40.880 They're like, no, if we just stop the cartels and the fentanyl stops and then my nephew doesn't

01:01:45.220 die, you know, like that's how they're viewing this.

01:01:47.020 And I just, I just think they're wrong.

01:01:48.540 I just don't think it's that simple.

01:01:49.520 And I think that as a consequence of that, you will obviously see, we already saw just

01:01:53.800 a few hours ago, um, the first shots being fired between cartel members and, you know,

01:01:59.040 border patrol or whoever that was.

01:02:00.640 Um, fortunately no one was hit, so it won't, it probably won't escalate things too dramatically,

01:02:04.900 but at some point there will be American, you know, servicemen or whatever government

01:02:11.720 officials that get taken out by these cartels.

01:02:13.800 And when that happens, it's fucking gloves off.

01:02:16.240 It's going to go fast.

01:02:17.220 And I think libertarians are not really on top of how serious the Trump administration

01:02:22.000 is about this.

01:02:23.220 Like you had the vague who was on my show.

01:02:25.500 Actually, I debated him about this topic.

01:02:27.300 I also debated him about, uh, you know, Taiwan, but he was talking about this, you know, a

01:02:31.700 year ago when I had him on about how Mexico and the cartels and all this shit like this,

01:02:35.840 in my opinion, this has been a narrative that they've been pushing for a long time because

01:02:40.200 I think that they understand too, that the, you know, animal spirits or whatever you want

01:02:44.460 to call it of the American people has to be directed somewhere.

01:02:47.580 And I think that they want to direct it at Mexico.

01:02:49.240 I do.

01:02:49.960 I agree with that.

01:02:51.120 Look, I mean, I think that most of this, like I said, I think most of it is, is theater.

01:02:55.420 Um, and, and so when you were saying earlier that you don't understand why Trump isn't,

01:03:01.220 uh, talking about the CIA involvement in these sorts of things, it's, it's because it doesn't

01:03:05.500 work, right?

01:03:06.100 Uh, you're awfully confused.

01:03:07.600 I mean, any, anybody who's watching and listening, awfully confused, looking in from the outside,

01:03:12.220 wondering why he's doing so many good things, but he's not taking that extra step.

01:03:15.620 And a lot of it starts to make sense when you realize that this is, I like Trump.

01:03:20.140 I like a lot of his, uh, his legislation.

01:03:22.120 I liked his politics.

01:03:22.900 I like the, you know, just the, the, the economy being better, right?

01:03:26.440 It's like kind of what the average person is, is hungry for to be able to afford gas and

01:03:30.500 groceries again without struggling.

01:03:32.000 Um, but I do think that we're getting, and only time's going to tell, but I think we're

01:03:37.000 getting a, like a Trojan horse of sorts.

01:03:39.040 You know what I mean?

01:03:39.480 Where he's rolling up.

01:03:40.880 Um, and just for the record, every, every new tranche of war propaganda is always a Trojan

01:03:47.440 horse.

01:03:47.960 It's never, it's never what you're being told.

01:03:50.020 It's always at least, you know, 50% lies and, and what you get as a consequence of that

01:03:55.960 is never what's promised in the beginning.

01:03:58.060 We were not like, we were promised that we were going to fucking defeat terrorism.

01:04:01.220 Did that happen?

01:04:02.960 Nope.

01:04:03.760 Uh, can we even make an argument that it like really diminished terrorism?

01:04:07.320 Probably not.

01:04:08.320 Uh, did, did Iraq become some blossoming democracy?

01:04:12.060 Fuck no, it didn't.

01:04:12.960 What about Libya?

01:04:13.820 What about, you know, any of these others?

01:04:14.980 Just go down the line.

01:04:16.120 Um, and I think that's the same thing with the Mexico issue.

01:04:18.520 Like people, people go, Oh, it's an art.

01:04:20.220 It's a narco state.

01:04:21.140 So yeah, of course, if you're going to go after the cartels, you got to go after the government

01:04:24.420 too.

01:04:24.700 And you know, whatever, it's got to be fixed.

01:04:26.900 This is our neighbor.

01:04:27.660 We can't allow this to persist.

01:04:28.980 Okay.

01:04:29.200 Well, what do you think is going to happen?

01:04:31.280 Are you going to fucking nation build Mexico?

01:04:33.080 Are you going to conquer it?

01:04:34.100 Is it going to be part of America now?

01:04:35.580 Do you want to have 70, a hundred million, whatever Mexicans that are now American citizens?

01:04:40.020 Are they going to be, are, are Palestinians moving forward?

01:04:42.600 Like people just don't fucking, they don't think these things through.

01:04:46.160 It's the exact same thing with Iraq where like, well, how are the fucking she is in the

01:04:50.120 Sunnis and everybody going to get along afterwards?

01:04:51.800 Like we're, we're not worried about that.

01:04:53.640 We don't know anything about that.

01:04:54.760 And I think it's the same thing here.

01:04:56.420 It's embarrassing because this is the kind of plot that they make like children's entertainment

01:04:59.780 out of.

01:05:00.240 You know what I mean?

01:05:00.660 It's like, you got a kid's show and like a, um, there's somebody in town who creates

01:05:05.440 a fleet of robots and then releases the robots on the town and they cause all kinds of havoc.

01:05:09.820 And then all of a sudden that person that created them steps out of the shadows and offers this

01:05:13.280 solution and everybody clamors.

01:05:15.240 And then next thing you know, he saves the day.

01:05:17.420 He gets rid of the robots by turning them the fuck off.

01:05:20.180 Uh, and then he says, all I got to do is, you know, have X, Y, and Z.

01:05:24.240 You've got to allow me to have these powers, those powers and everybody, you know, happily

01:05:27.000 it's literally the shit like that's, that's a, a rudimentary plot to a child's movie.

01:05:31.680 And it's, it's what we're being subjected to, I would argue.

01:05:34.260 Yeah.

01:05:34.740 But they, they run that same child's movie on over and over again.

01:05:38.760 It's fucking, I mean, look, if it's not broke, don't fix it, I guess, but it's embarrassing.

01:05:42.140 My argument is that it is broken, that, that we have enough examples and we have access

01:05:47.460 to information through internet and decentralized things that like, they, there's no real excuse

01:05:53.320 for people to be buying this same narrative again.

01:05:56.540 And, and that's, that's the reason I wanted to have this conversation with you guys is

01:06:00.160 that I think that that's the mistake is that, well, all right, so let me, let me steel

01:06:06.340 man the differences here.

01:06:07.820 The steel man of the differences here and why this might be a war with fighting is that

01:06:12.000 this is actually our homeland.

01:06:13.540 This is actually our country, you know, like Iraq had no real chances of ever fucking with

01:06:19.020 us.

01:06:19.600 Iran doesn't either.

01:06:21.300 You know, basically no foreign power does because we'll just, everyone on earth will

01:06:26.200 die.

01:06:26.520 So like, we don't have a real issue with that.

01:06:28.960 This is, this is on our land.

01:06:31.400 There are hundreds of thousands of people that have died of drug overdoses as a consequence

01:06:34.900 of these drugs.

01:06:35.920 Now, I don't, I still put some of the blame on the users because a lot of the people are doing

01:06:40.000 these drugs voluntarily.

01:06:41.560 But, but a lot of these people are being poisoned because they don't even know that they're

01:06:45.040 taking fentanyl and that's obviously tragic.

01:06:47.840 Or they were prescribed an opioid by some sort of, you know, doctor.

01:06:51.420 Well, yeah.

01:06:51.900 That's, I mean, that's, that's almost in every instance.

01:06:55.500 People don't like just hop to fentanyl.

01:06:57.600 Like they, they get prescribed oxy because they, they had a broken arm or they had back

01:07:02.740 surgery.

01:07:03.080 And then all of a sudden they're on street shit after their prescription runs out.

01:07:06.140 Like that happens over and over again.

01:07:07.740 So that's, that's another part of my issue here is like none of this is holistic, but

01:07:11.960 anyways, let me go back to steel manning.

01:07:13.940 So we're already suffering losses of Americans that are far, far outpace that of 9-11 by a million

01:07:21.600 miles.

01:07:21.900 Um, so I understand like the imperative.

01:07:26.300 I also understand that you have at minimum 11 million over the past four years and probably

01:07:31.800 20 to 30 million, according to Steve friend, 30 to 40 million that have came across over

01:07:35.680 the past four years, which sounds fucking nuts to me, but maybe it's true.

01:07:38.180 I don't know.

01:07:38.880 Um, if you believe in defending your country, if you are a nationalist libertarian, which

01:07:44.380 most of my audience, I'm not sure where they fall on that.

01:07:47.220 Um, but I think that like, there is justification to say like, yeah, we're being invaded and

01:07:52.740 what do we, what do we do about that?

01:07:54.420 Then, then you add to it kind of what could be argued is by a warfare with fentanyl.

01:07:59.500 Um, and I'm like, oh, all right, that's very complicated.

01:08:02.560 So like basically what I'm trying to trafficking element.

01:08:05.240 Yeah.

01:08:05.660 And the human trafficking.

01:08:06.460 So what I'm saying is like, this is a much more justifiable claim to make, but it does

01:08:12.800 not get rid of the lessons of the past when it comes to the inability to actually topple

01:08:18.360 corrupt governments and, and criminal organizations and fix these fucking places.

01:08:23.020 They don't get better.

01:08:24.160 They get worse.

01:08:25.300 So I think that I don't care about Mexico.

01:08:27.900 Fuck Mexico.

01:08:28.660 Like this is, but then, but then the problem isn't fixed and top.

01:08:31.780 I understand you don't care about it.

01:08:32.960 You wouldn't be that we wouldn't have fallen for it again.

01:08:35.940 Agreed.

01:08:36.340 Unless you gave us a damn good one.

01:08:38.020 Well, here's the thing.

01:08:38.580 This is like, we're taking steps towards it.

01:08:40.100 And we're, I think we're seeing like, uh, we're seeing the combatant become inflamed.

01:08:45.120 So the first thing he did, like once he was sworn in, put his hand, he didn't even put

01:08:48.820 his hand on the Bible, which is a whole nother conversation.

01:08:50.720 They shut down the border.

01:08:51.820 They had guys there ready to go.

01:08:53.280 They clocked in at, you know, 8am that day.

01:08:55.040 And when he was ready, 12pm that boom, they shut down the border.

01:08:58.000 So this is the step for, uh, healing for this nation to heal is being taken.

01:09:03.640 In my opinion, how you solve it would be shut down that border.

01:09:07.000 Um, our relationship with Mexico has to be strict, tenuous, maybe even not combatant,

01:09:14.780 but I wouldn't, I wouldn't work with them.

01:09:17.100 I would, I would pressure them into everything.

01:09:19.060 I would, I would punish them.

01:09:20.700 You have to.

01:09:21.740 Yeah.

01:09:22.000 They're not going to do it otherwise, obviously, or they would be doing it already.

01:09:24.980 Yeah.

01:09:25.400 And unfortunately their, their people are going to suffer if you punish them with tariffs

01:09:28.480 or imports, things like that.

01:09:30.180 But Hey, listen, this has been going on for far too long.

01:09:32.840 So number one, you have to stop the bleeding.

01:09:34.800 So there's our tourniquet number two.

01:09:36.540 Now we have all these people inside of our country and I've looked at the numbers.

01:09:40.080 I think ISIS deported like a thousand people a day.

01:09:43.120 If you've deported a thousand people a day, over 365 days a year, uh, over four years,

01:09:48.700 it does not equal the 10, let's say 10 million.

01:09:52.680 It equals something like, I don't know, like 1.3 million, which means that there's still 8

01:09:58.200 million people that came here.

01:10:00.520 And I don't know who the fuck they are.

01:10:02.420 They're here in our country doing God knows what.

01:10:05.260 So it's like, what do you do to solve this problem?

01:10:10.300 And no, it's not bomb Mexico.

01:10:12.180 It's not in, who cares about me?

01:10:13.340 Leave Mexico alone.

01:10:14.460 It's inside here.

01:10:16.480 So first thing, yes, cut it, cut off that border.

01:10:18.780 They can't, there cannot be any cut off the border everywhere.

01:10:21.880 Nobody comes into America because it like, we, we are poisoned right now.

01:10:25.280 We need to figure out what's going on in our country.

01:10:27.040 That's absolutely not what they're going to do.

01:10:29.060 And I understand what you're saying, Clint, what they're going to do is Iraq war three,

01:10:33.000 you know, but it's in Mexico, it would be justifiably hilarious, but it's not going

01:10:37.680 to fucking solve what, what I want to be solved.

01:10:40.600 Well, let's go back to what you just said.

01:10:42.340 Uh, these people are here and they're doing God knows what, right?

01:10:44.780 So even if you eliminate the cartel aspect, we're not doing war with the cartel.

01:10:48.980 Let's say that's off the table, right?

01:10:50.260 We're not doing that, but we are doing these mass deportations.

01:10:53.060 Don't you feel as though, like you look at the Colorado apartment situation where all

01:10:56.980 these Venezuelan migrants are coming over and they're, they're taking over, right?

01:10:59.960 And they even got into a combative situation in the project buildings of Chicago, uh, where

01:11:04.360 as bad as it is in Chicago, they were, you know, it was almost like, you didn't know who

01:11:07.860 to root for.

01:11:08.460 Is it the Venezuelan migrants?

01:11:09.580 Do you have to root for anybody?

01:11:10.620 I don't know.

01:11:11.520 Um, but so, you know, what happens is the government is going to engage in this mass deportation.

01:11:16.880 And I think what's going to end up happening organically anyway.

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01:12:20.160 Is because of the nature of what you're investigating and the nature of who you're deporting, you're

01:12:23.680 going to find that the cartel is embedded and that they're running all kinds of crazy

01:12:29.020 operations in our own country.

01:12:30.480 If we keep going down this path of getting these people the fuck out of the country,

01:12:34.000 we're going to pull the curtain back on something.

01:12:35.580 Here's what I'd suggest.

01:12:37.420 We're going to find-

01:12:37.660 I don't think that's a mystery though, for the record.

01:12:39.380 I think that they already know that.

01:12:40.540 And I know that.

01:12:41.000 No, but I'm saying what happens when-

01:12:41.780 You're going to find the proof.

01:12:42.780 We hold it up undeniably to the American people and go, look, look what they're doing.

01:12:46.760 You need to tell like somehow tell the American people because I'm already there in my heart

01:12:51.700 where if they showed me this stuff, they'd be like, here's all the kids they killed.

01:12:56.020 Here's all the money that we took.

01:12:57.380 Yeah, we were cutting cocaine with fentanyl on purpose.

01:13:00.280 And we think it's funny because we're waging war against you.

01:13:03.800 Cool.

01:13:04.480 You could show me all that evidence.

01:13:05.760 But if I have you out of my country, I am okay with just you being gone.

01:13:10.960 Like fine, get the fuck out.

01:13:13.000 But we have to start building again as a country.

01:13:16.740 We can't-

01:13:17.600 We can't-

01:13:18.060 Do you want to get-

01:13:19.000 Do you want to get focused on war again?

01:13:20.460 And this is the message that we need to tell people, but there absolutely is a war coming.

01:13:24.380 And most likely we're going to all have to fight and be of the same mindset of like,

01:13:28.060 we have to understand this was happening, this is happening, and it needs to stop.

01:13:32.440 Attacking Mexico and the Mexican people is not going to stop it.

01:13:35.700 But being like non-negotiable with them, shutting down our border, and then

01:13:39.120 completely draining our society of these people is what needs to happen.

01:13:42.440 When we do that, that is going to cause false flag attacks, terrorist attacks.

01:13:46.560 God only knows what is going to happen, but it has to happen because it has to stop.

01:13:51.720 Well, then I don't think we actually disagree, which is kind of surprising because

01:13:55.960 your tweets make it seem like we totally disagree.

01:13:58.840 It's just rhetoric, right?

01:14:00.320 War with Mexico.

01:14:01.580 I'm not the country Mexico, but these-

01:14:04.060 Again, indistinguishable.

01:14:05.660 The cartels of Mexico, they killed like, I don't know, 12 different candidates to

01:14:09.280 put in some Jewish lady.

01:14:11.660 That lady's not the president of Mexico.

01:14:13.280 The cartel is.

01:14:14.020 She's just there as a face.

01:14:15.740 And it's-

01:14:16.500 So we are going to-

01:14:16.960 Scheinbaum is a very interesting Hispanic name.

01:14:19.280 Yeah, it's very interesting.

01:14:20.240 Yeah.

01:14:20.340 I don't know anyone from my family named Scheinbaum, but listen, it's going to go down to the

01:14:25.540 point where we are at war with the Mexican government and we are at war with our own

01:14:30.040 government.

01:14:30.340 It's a crazy thing.

01:14:31.740 Our government has its tendrils into the cartel and the cartel has its tendrils into

01:14:35.840 Mexico.

01:14:37.080 And I mean, listen, it's not really a surprise, right?

01:14:38.900 Like all the other countries that we've overthrown, just in the Middle East alone.

01:14:43.320 These are our puppet countries.

01:14:44.780 They do what we want until we kind of lose control of them.

01:14:48.180 And then they, you know, we-

01:14:49.860 See, this is actually a really important point because this is a distinction I make in my

01:14:54.200 mind and I don't know if everybody else does this, but the way I perceive it is that,

01:14:58.400 yes, these foreign governments are largely in our employ, like they do what we tell them

01:15:05.060 to, but they don't do what the Trump administration tells them to.

01:15:08.680 They don't do what the American people tell them to.

01:15:11.220 They do what the deep state tells them to.

01:15:13.960 They do what the permanent bureaucracy in America tells them to, the military industrial

01:15:17.940 complex, et cetera, et cetera.

01:15:19.360 So that's the problem is that like, we do have control mechanisms over Mexico to a certain

01:15:25.980 extent, but they, this is my point is that they've been doing what we've wanted them

01:15:29.620 to.

01:15:30.020 They've been wanting them to continue to run humans and fentanyl and all this other shit

01:15:34.900 into our country.

01:15:35.860 So now you have to use, Trump has to use his own power and his own leverage to get the government

01:15:41.220 to do what he wants them to, not what the existing deep state wants them to.

01:15:45.480 That's a huge fucking challenge.

01:15:46.940 And I don't know that he can prevail in that fight, but I don't think that he, that it's

01:15:50.480 to his benefit to turn to the military.

01:15:53.480 Well, maybe, maybe the military is more on his side.

01:15:55.900 They, they certainly lean more conservative than, uh, what appears the FBI does at this

01:16:00.860 junction, but I'm just saying, it's very hard to know who he can trust.

01:16:04.820 And I don't even know if I can trust Trump at the end of the day.

01:16:07.220 Yep.

01:16:07.360 So it's like, like, this is all fucking really challenging.

01:16:10.440 And I just err on the side of caution.

01:16:12.940 And I just want to like focus on defending our borders, getting the most dangerous illegals

01:16:19.260 out of this country so that they don't have the, as much of an excuse for, um, you know,

01:16:25.280 really draconian laws and things of that nature.

01:16:27.000 And, and that's, that's probably the best that we can do.

01:16:31.100 That's probably the best middle ground.

01:16:32.380 And a lot of this goes against, you know, some of my, my audience's opinions when it

01:16:36.180 comes to this.

01:16:36.620 And by, by all means, comment down below and let me know why I'm wrong here.

01:16:39.940 But I think that this is a real problem.

01:16:42.740 You've lost hundreds of thousands of people, um, countless, you know, children that have

01:16:47.540 been trafficked across the border.

01:16:48.800 Like you have to have some answer for this.

01:16:51.540 And if you don't have an answer, if you just go, oh, that's not, you know, libertarianism,

01:16:55.040 one-on-one purity test, well then you're not really contributing anything to this conversation.

01:16:59.520 Like, tell me exactly how you would go about it differently than what I've prescribed.

01:17:03.020 I would love to hear it.

01:17:03.920 Can you show, can you show this picture here really quick?

01:17:05.640 Cause I think this is significant.

01:17:06.720 And this is again, getting to like this weird Q stuff, but this is Donald Trump.

01:17:10.080 Uh, dude, that freaked me out.

01:17:11.800 That freaked me out.

01:17:11.820 Yeah.

01:17:12.380 Really?

01:17:13.400 Yeah.

01:17:13.600 Because I mean, well, look at his, his picture, his inauguration picture.

01:17:16.240 And it's like, uh, you know, like you've been through some shit.

01:17:19.240 He was smiling in the last one.

01:17:20.260 And then this time it's like, this is a war president and this right here, this is the

01:17:23.920 way it should, it's supposed to be where the Eagle is facing the olive branch.

01:17:28.600 Yeah.

01:17:29.040 Um, yeah, this is not the arrows.

01:17:31.620 He's looking at the arrows.

01:17:33.380 He's, this is, I know like this is, this is freaky, man.

01:17:36.680 It really is.

01:17:37.140 It's a wartime presidency.

01:17:38.840 This is a war.

01:17:39.960 Right.

01:17:40.240 Right.

01:17:40.420 When you saw him with like the, what he's got is like one eye is smaller than the other

01:17:43.460 in that, in his, in his picture.

01:17:44.620 That's like the seppuku eye.

01:17:45.480 What is that called?

01:17:46.800 The seppuku eye or something like that.

01:17:49.280 Sampuku eye.

01:17:49.680 Yeah.

01:17:49.960 Where it's like, you could see the bottom whites.

01:17:51.780 Yeah.

01:17:51.980 Very, very, uh, it's symbolic.

01:17:53.780 It's filled with vengeance.

01:17:54.960 Yeah.

01:17:55.260 But this is, he, listen, they're telling you this is a, he's not telling, he's telling

01:17:59.400 the people, which I think is fair warning, but he's also telling this deep state that

01:18:03.900 he's coming after them.

01:18:04.840 And I think he was coming after them that first time, but he was doing it in a weird

01:18:08.320 way where he thought he could negotiate.

01:18:10.260 And then they hit us with COVID.

01:18:11.940 Whatever he was doing.

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01:19:07.540 Doing behind the scenes there.

01:19:09.200 Listen, this shit did not, it doesn't happen by accident.

01:19:12.660 This did not develop in a wet market.

01:19:14.260 This was a bioweapon and it was released on purpose.

01:19:16.800 All the lockdowns, everything that you went through was done purposely to you because of

01:19:21.160 some shit that this guy was doing.

01:19:22.820 Is he on your side?

01:19:24.180 I don't know.

01:19:25.300 Is he on, I don't think he's on my side.

01:19:27.220 I think he's on his side.

01:19:28.200 But his side seems to benefit what I want.

01:19:30.320 And the other people, they seem to want me dead.

01:19:32.960 So there's a war going on and this is happening whether you like it or not.

01:19:37.180 He's declaring war and the first people that he declared as terrorists were the cartels.

01:19:41.360 That's telling me that it's like, this is the arm of this shadow government that is

01:19:45.620 its military enforcement and they're fucking here.

01:19:48.560 I don't know what to do.

01:19:49.900 I don't know what to tell you.

01:19:50.700 Let me tell you something very gay.

01:19:53.200 We talk about him a lot.

01:19:55.420 We try to slow down, but it just keeps happening anyway.

01:19:58.240 Cliff High, everybody drink.

01:19:59.400 The character Cliff High.

01:20:01.620 So you want to talk about a guy who's been kind of on a tangent lately with predictions

01:20:06.780 coming out of this web bot that he's developed.

01:20:08.900 It scrapes the internet for data and it makes predictions about potentialities in the future.

01:20:12.400 Well, one of the things that it said was going to be happening, or at least you could surmise

01:20:16.960 from the data would be happening over the next, it was this month.

01:20:20.900 And then I believe February and March.

01:20:23.560 So throughout these three month period, we would see the falling apart of the deep state,

01:20:29.240 but that wouldn't be so obvious to the viewer.

01:20:31.600 What we would see is the symptoms of that.

01:20:33.980 David's been saying this.

01:20:35.160 That's what was actually called the melee.

01:20:35.880 He's been saying this since November.

01:20:38.240 Since November, right.

01:20:39.400 Maybe October.

01:20:40.360 When was Bohemian Grove?

01:20:42.840 That was in October.

01:20:43.920 So I started talking about, we started talking about him middle of November, I think is when

01:20:49.760 he got put on my radar.

01:20:50.920 And then we've been kind of like sounding the alarm ever since.

01:20:53.220 And you know, it's something to be taken with a grain of salt.

01:20:56.120 But either way, what he said was going to be happening, or at least what he suggested.

01:21:00.220 No, David, sorry.

01:21:01.760 Oh, Bohemian Grove happened October 25th and the 26th might be happening again pretty soon.

01:21:05.520 We're working on some details.

01:21:06.520 So if you like that, go check it out.

01:21:07.600 Oh, that's right.

01:21:07.620 Yeah, we got to start figuring out who's performing and all of that.

01:21:09.660 So that predates, that predates the election and that predates Trump even winning.

01:21:14.080 But this was the prediction that he's getting from his web bot.

01:21:17.080 Well, that's what he's saying is the deep state is going to fall apart.

01:21:19.600 That wouldn't be so obvious to the outside, from the outside looking in.

01:21:22.180 What we would see is symptoms of that, like, for example, a lot of pulling the trigger

01:21:28.480 on like false flag events.

01:21:30.420 And the reason that would happen is because the deep state has smaller organizations that

01:21:33.720 would answer to it.

01:21:34.480 But they have contingency plans, allegedly, that they would be pulling the trigger on when

01:21:38.840 they don't have anybody to answer to.

01:21:41.320 And that would also cause a lot of infighting and things of that nature.

01:21:44.220 So really what we would see is chaos, which from the outside looking in, if we were trying

01:21:48.540 to make sense of all the different shit that was going on, we might actually be at a disadvantage

01:21:52.300 because there might not be sense to be made of it.

01:21:54.720 It might just be sort of the writhing, the death throes of this, you know, this element

01:22:00.460 of our own government.

01:22:01.540 And so and then, you know, the good news is by June, allegedly, we would be in a really,

01:22:06.440 really nice place.

01:22:07.400 But February, March, April, May, definitely February, March and April, I believe he said

01:22:14.460 we're going to be really, really hard.

01:22:16.520 And that because of this, something would happen where the migrant situation would actually

01:22:22.280 result in some combat situations between average civilians and and, you know, disgruntled

01:22:28.820 migrants and that eventually it would kind of fix itself like it wouldn't go into this

01:22:34.580 full blown war.

01:22:35.580 But these people will be like, well, there's nothing here for me.

01:22:37.800 And these people fucking don't like us.

01:22:39.840 And we're fighting all the time.

01:22:41.240 So a lot of them will just go home.

01:22:43.020 But there will be a clash that will happen.

01:22:45.800 And so if we are doing this mass rounding up of migrants and deporting them, well, surely

01:22:52.660 some of them would run away.

01:22:54.120 Surely some of them would become, you know, rather unhinged.

01:22:56.740 And you might see actual combat situations between people who live in cities.

01:23:00.020 Maybe let's say it's inevitable.

01:23:02.120 It's going to happen for sure.

01:23:03.160 Look, it's funny because I think a lot of people listening to Top's rant prior to yours

01:23:09.540 will think that he sounds kind of crazy.

01:23:12.300 And I just want to say that, like, yeah, I just want to say that, like, I don't totally

01:23:18.680 disagree.

01:23:19.240 In fact, I agree with probably 80 percent of it.

01:23:21.340 And I think that, like, there's a real there's a real danger over the next four years, like

01:23:27.800 whether you think Trump's on your side or not is kind of irrelevant.

01:23:30.220 Like, he's clearly not on their side.

01:23:33.400 So what does that mean?

01:23:36.320 Like, how how will they go about trying to attack his presidency?

01:23:40.740 Is it just going to be bureaucratic maneuvers where they slow walk his orders and they lie

01:23:45.880 to him and they do all that shit like last time?

01:23:47.600 Well, they're going to try that.

01:23:48.700 But the reality is, is that he's surrounding himself with, like, hardline loyalists at

01:23:53.160 this this go around and they're going to fire the fuck out of those people real fast if

01:23:56.740 they do that.

01:23:57.300 So I think that, like, then it puts on the table extrajudicial shit, which we've already

01:24:02.900 seen a bullet.

01:24:04.060 Well, in my opinion, graze Trump's ear.

01:24:07.240 So listen, whether it happened or not, whether that happened or not, because I will.

01:24:11.040 I don't know.

01:24:11.720 We don't know what happened there.

01:24:12.560 But the precedent was set that it would happen and everybody believed that it would happen.

01:24:18.260 If I was Trump, I would have gotten in front of it.

01:24:20.100 But yeah, for sure.

01:24:20.900 They want him dead.

01:24:22.040 This is it's already done.

01:24:22.920 They tried the political route.

01:24:23.860 They tried to arrest him.

01:24:24.680 They tried to sue him.

01:24:25.460 They can't do it.

01:24:26.580 They want like there's only there's one other step left.

01:24:28.780 And when they can't get to him, then what happens?

01:24:31.600 Yeah.

01:24:31.720 Well, and if you if you believe what you've said earlier about the release in 2019.

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01:25:38.600 Then that already demonstrates like they're willing to do anything.

01:25:42.020 I mean, that's that's millions of people perished as a consequence of their decisions.

01:25:46.160 It was global.

01:25:46.980 Yeah.

01:25:47.940 Well, I know.

01:25:48.600 But I'm just saying like that's still that's millions of people all over the world.

01:25:51.760 So I'm not I'm not convinced that it was intentional.

01:25:54.880 I just want to make that clear.

01:25:57.300 I think that there's a fair argument to be made, particularly given the cover up.

01:26:01.260 It certainly looks as if they were covering it up because it was intentional.

01:26:03.920 But it could also be that they were just funding research that was illegal.

01:26:07.640 They knew that their hands were dirty and therefore they covered it up because they didn't want

01:26:11.260 to have that brought to the fore.

01:26:13.800 And then they made a vaccine that kills more people.

01:26:15.480 Can I can I can I have to delete that part?

01:26:18.320 Thanks.

01:26:19.640 Clint, we had a conversation.

01:26:21.200 I think, listen, I think the rest of this episode is might be a watch.

01:26:23.980 This is might be a Rumble exclusive at this point.

01:26:25.920 But we had to talk about it.

01:26:27.380 If we're talking about this, right, this is deep stuff.

01:26:29.280 So, no, it's important.

01:26:30.560 It's important.

01:26:31.240 Well, look, look, we had this conversation a while ago and I kind of said not not really

01:26:35.640 jokingly.

01:26:36.220 I do suspect it's going to happen.

01:26:37.940 And you didn't say that it wouldn't.

01:26:39.280 You just said that it was rather unprecedented if it did happen.

01:26:41.880 And we just had the beginnings of this thing that I speculated on, which is they are recommending

01:26:49.160 a I don't know if it's going to go through, but proposing an amendment to the Second Amendment,

01:26:54.740 allowing Donald Trump to run for a third term, not a Second Amendment, something that we actually

01:26:59.440 talked about.

01:27:00.080 Did that what ended up happening?

01:27:01.160 Did that fall through?

01:27:01.920 Is that an 18th Amendment?

01:27:03.620 Yeah, it's a different amendment.

01:27:04.360 No, it's a 22nd Amendment.

01:27:05.180 22nd Amendment.

01:27:05.540 22nd Amendment.

01:27:06.040 OK.

01:27:06.480 Yeah.

01:27:06.700 Yeah.

01:27:06.860 They're trying to give him a third term, but they can't be consecutive.

01:27:09.340 But because he had a gap, that means he can do three.

01:27:12.780 Look, I don't think it's going to happen.

01:27:14.280 And I think that Trump's very old.

01:27:15.920 And I, you know, but who the fuck knows?

01:27:18.940 I know you guys, you guys, you guys all quote tweeted with the last president, which I guess

01:27:22.920 is some other conspiracy theory.

01:27:24.520 Well, that's not just look, that goes into a lot of weird stuff, right?

01:27:26.960 Roseanne Barr thought that this was going to be the last election or something like that.

01:27:30.100 There's a lot of that sort of.

01:27:31.580 Well, she didn't think that this election would happen either.

01:27:34.100 Yeah.

01:27:34.540 Yeah, that's true.

01:27:35.880 And so but that's like a lot of people have been speculating for whatever reason that this

01:27:39.600 is going to be the last presidency.

01:27:40.660 And, you know, I think the thing that's at the heart of that is those Ingersoll Lockwood

01:27:44.100 books, the 1900 or the last president and the marvelous underground adventures of Little

01:27:50.060 Baron Trump.

01:27:50.620 But I'm not saying that it is going to happen.

01:27:53.000 I just think it's funny that, you know, it's even on the table as a conversation piece when

01:27:57.800 previously it was just the unhinged ramblings of a partially schizophrenic host of a conspiracy

01:28:03.160 show.

01:28:03.660 So I just thought that was really funny because I don't know if it's going to, you know, who

01:28:06.460 the hell knows if it's going to happen, but hilarious nonetheless.

01:28:09.840 Well, I wanted to play you guys this clip.

01:28:12.500 Hold on one sec.

01:28:13.420 Do it.

01:28:15.080 I think you should get a redo.

01:28:16.620 Right.

01:28:17.000 The first term was a wash.

01:28:18.740 Realistically.

01:28:19.100 That was what I was getting at with my lack of political understanding.

01:28:22.620 Oh, this is so funny.

01:28:23.600 Please.

01:28:23.840 Yeah.

01:28:23.960 I love this.

01:28:24.500 I'm not going back to Haiti.

01:28:26.160 One of those threats is this illegal alien from Haiti.

01:28:29.660 Ice says he's a gang member with 17 criminal convictions in recent years.

01:28:34.880 Trump, you feel me?

01:28:36.440 Yo, Biden forever, bro.

01:28:38.120 Thank you for everything that he did for me, bro.

01:28:41.560 Yeah.

01:28:41.960 I'm definitely not going to lose any sleep over a guy who was 17 criminal.

01:28:48.540 But I feel like that's theatrics.

01:28:50.860 To me, that feels theatrical.

01:28:52.260 I don't think that that's real.

01:28:53.300 I think that guy's probably an actor.

01:28:55.060 I just, it's too.

01:28:55.900 Oh, interesting.

01:28:56.580 It's too tone deaf.

01:28:57.880 You know what I mean?

01:28:58.440 To like be championing Joe Biden is, you know, especially in these, as you're getting

01:29:03.560 deported, I think the optics of it are tremendous.

01:29:07.140 And I just don't think it's real.

01:29:08.700 I could not disagree with you more.

01:29:10.740 If you remember the Obama phone lady, we got our Obama phone.

01:29:15.120 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:16.200 They'd be doing shit like that.

01:29:17.300 Super viral clip back in the day.

01:29:18.540 Like that is not unheard of.

01:29:19.960 And for him to say like, Biden's my homeboy.

01:29:22.600 Fuck Trump.

01:29:23.120 You know, like, I'm not going back to Haiti.

01:29:24.840 I have no life, baby.

01:29:25.720 That seems all plausible to me, personally.

01:29:29.520 Here, pull this up real quick because this is in alignment with that.

01:29:32.100 It's only 30 seconds.

01:29:34.140 But here.

01:29:36.680 Oh, yeah.

01:29:37.400 I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry.

01:29:41.940 Who's this?

01:29:42.820 Selena Gomez?

01:29:43.620 All my people are getting.

01:29:44.920 This is Selena Gomez.

01:29:46.740 And she's crying.

01:29:47.640 It's only 30 seconds.

01:29:48.460 Hold on.

01:29:48.780 Let's let it play.

01:29:49.500 I don't know what to do.

01:29:51.900 I don't understand.

01:29:58.620 I'm so sorry.

01:30:00.120 I wish I could do something, but I can't.

01:30:03.080 I don't know what to do.

01:30:05.020 I'll try everything.

01:30:08.820 She'll try everything.

01:30:10.180 She'll try everything.

01:30:10.740 So what that is is Selena Gomez, the impossibly rich, the, you know, reaching unheard of levels

01:30:18.460 of superstardom is she's crying because of the mass deportations and because it's so close

01:30:24.280 to her heart and she wants to do whatever she can and she promises she will do whatever

01:30:27.960 she can.

01:30:28.780 Another wonderful piece of theater.

01:30:30.900 To me, this is just shit that happens.

01:30:33.700 Do you think that they didn't create viral moments, even using our own governmental institutions

01:30:38.740 to try to bolster Kamala Harris's popularity among like Gen Z voters and shit like that?

01:30:43.800 Right.

01:30:44.280 Of course they did.

01:30:45.520 So I will err on the side of caution with you, Clint, that it could be that, you know,

01:30:51.460 sure, it's real.

01:30:52.240 But I do believe there's precedent for just having these these moments, these theatrical

01:30:56.540 moments that are shot well, that are impactful, that create virality, that stick in the mind

01:31:00.920 of the public.

01:31:02.000 I understand your perspective.

01:31:04.920 The reason I say I lean towards the direction of this being genuine is that these people are

01:31:09.060 mentally ill, that like genuinely people that are in Hollywood, they go to fucking parties

01:31:14.940 together, they are on the movie set together, they're in the recording studio together, and

01:31:19.320 they're all just constantly telling themselves that like Donald Trump's a fascist and immigrants are

01:31:25.200 just beautiful.

01:31:26.080 They're better.

01:31:26.680 They're superior to everybody that's born in America and supporting them is the worst

01:31:30.440 thing that's ever happened and that they're devastated.

01:31:32.460 Now, the performative nature of videoing yourself and putting it on the Internet is certainly

01:31:36.800 a performance.

01:31:38.220 But to argue that the feeling is totally not real for them, I don't think it's true.

01:31:44.000 I think that these people are genuinely fucking crazy.

01:31:45.780 It's real.

01:31:46.460 That black dude, I worked, I tell the story before, I told it before, I worked with the

01:31:51.200 guy in the tracks when Donald Trump won in 2016 and he literally like tore his vest and

01:31:55.280 his shirt like in lamentation screaming that he's going to be back in chains.

01:31:59.960 It's what they believe it.

01:32:01.260 I mean, the narrative has been set and perpetuated in such a way where they do believe it.

01:32:05.140 It's funny to see the people that perpetuate the narrative believing it this hard.

01:32:09.440 So does Selena Gomez believe it?

01:32:11.280 I'm not really sure.

01:32:12.860 Is it whatever?

01:32:14.360 When all those celebrities got together during the lockdowns and they sang Imagine All the

01:32:19.320 People, do you think that they really meant Imagine All the People or did somebody on their

01:32:23.420 management team say this would be good publicity and this is actually great because right now

01:32:27.440 we're getting a buck from, you know, insert big pharmaceutical corporation.

01:32:31.120 Yeah, well, look, look, everybody was all of the recording, all of the studios,

01:32:35.060 they had nothing to do.

01:32:37.560 They are completely addicted to fame.

01:32:40.140 So they're such egotistical, narcissistic lunatics that they thought, well, this will make people

01:32:46.580 feel better to have us all getting together and singing a song because they all worship

01:32:51.580 us.

01:32:52.160 That's their perspective.

01:32:53.260 They fancy themselves gods.

01:32:55.660 So for them, they're like, this is going to go great.

01:32:59.140 Everyone's going to love this.

01:33:00.020 They love us.

01:33:00.460 They come and watch our movies.

01:33:01.600 They listen to our music.

01:33:02.760 Of course they're going to go, no, we fucking despise you.

01:33:05.660 And the fact that you would do that was so condescending is unbelievable.

01:33:08.880 That's it.

01:33:09.360 Your argument is that they're tone deaf.

01:33:10.920 Mine is that it was done out of malice to create a narrative.

01:33:14.940 And honestly, I think you're worse of a person than I am because at least I'm looking to them

01:33:19.520 saying that they have an agenda and they have, you know, their wits about them.

01:33:22.960 And you're saying they're just retards and they don't have any idea what the people actually

01:33:27.040 want.

01:33:27.680 I look, I mean, I don't think that that's not true.

01:33:30.040 Maybe, maybe it's just my, I think it's, it's one of those, it's, it's this thing where

01:33:35.440 maybe coming into it, they were like, I'll take the bag.

01:33:38.560 You know, I know this is kind of weird.

01:33:40.120 I don't really necessarily believe it.

01:33:41.420 And then after a while of like so much reinforcement, positive reinforcement by everyone around

01:33:46.040 you, by all the people who look up to you, the money, they're powdering your nose.

01:33:50.200 Yeah.

01:33:50.500 Like all that stuff.

01:33:51.260 I think you start to really do believe this.

01:33:53.540 So then when they, somebody, you know, sweeps the carpet from underneath your feet, it's

01:33:58.240 a complete surprise to you, but they'll have to come to reality eventually.

01:34:01.800 Or I'd prefer that they don't, I'd prefer that they just fucking go away, but we know that

01:34:05.860 I don't think you have to worry.

01:34:06.700 They're not coming back to reality.

01:34:07.980 I mean, they're going to lie.

01:34:08.940 They're going to do what Stephen A. Smith is doing where he's like, Oh, you know, fucking

01:34:12.620 all these Democrats are crazy.

01:34:14.280 And it's like, dude, you voted like literally 80 days ago.

01:34:17.460 You cast a vote for Kamala Harris.

01:34:19.000 Shut the fuck up forever.

01:34:21.340 So look, they're going to do that.

01:34:22.840 Like the smarter ones will, will pretend.

01:34:25.740 Um, but I think that, you know, sincerely wise, like they don't, there's no, there's not

01:34:30.080 a sincere bone in their body.

01:34:31.160 Anyways, I want to get you out of here on this.

01:34:32.660 Uh, got one more video that I thought you guys would find interesting.

01:34:35.960 This is a woke pastor going against a street pastor.

01:34:40.040 Uh, we'll see which guy, which one you side with.

01:34:42.300 I said nothing about it.

01:34:43.300 Now you tell me what did Christ say about homosexuality?

01:34:50.220 Matthew chapter 19, verse four.

01:34:52.060 He says, let a man come together with his wife and let them become one flesh.

01:34:56.220 He was speaking about marriage, marriage is between one man and one woman.

01:35:00.900 What was the culture of the time?

01:35:04.080 Uh, I think marriage is in every culture.

01:35:07.240 Whoa.

01:35:07.720 What was the culture of the time?

01:35:09.540 First off in Romans, it talks about our moral code.

01:35:12.180 You believe in the moral code?

01:35:13.100 Oh, for heaven's sakes.

01:35:14.480 You are so lost.

01:35:16.440 So lost.

01:35:19.780 Because what is the basic principle of the gospel?

01:35:23.780 To repent and turn to Jesus and know him.

01:35:27.320 The basic foundation of the gospel is love.

01:35:32.780 To be saved from sin and death.

01:35:35.040 Right?

01:35:35.780 Loving your neighbor as yourself.

01:35:38.580 You are doing the absolute opposite of loving your neighbor.

01:35:42.180 You are leading so many people astray into hell.

01:35:44.660 And I'm letting you know that you're going to be judged worsely by God than anyone else here.

01:35:48.480 Because you knew the truth and you didn't repent.

01:35:50.700 Now listen, can you listen?

01:35:51.720 Because I listened to you.

01:35:52.540 No, I listened to you.

01:35:54.020 Romans chapter 1 verse 18.

01:35:56.380 All right.

01:35:57.280 That was very funny.

01:35:58.100 That's incredible.

01:35:58.740 I mean.

01:35:58.860 There was nothing of substance there from her.

01:36:01.000 What did she do?

01:36:01.740 She.

01:36:02.060 Was that the lady?

01:36:02.900 Goldpost moved.

01:36:03.680 And then she, she attacked his, you know.

01:36:06.000 Oh, you're so lost.

01:36:06.280 And then she ad-homed.

01:36:07.240 She was just like, you're so lost.

01:36:08.220 She ad-homed.

01:36:08.460 Yeah, moved goldpost, then ad-homed.

01:36:10.060 Was that the lady that did the sermon at the inauguration?

01:36:13.840 It looked, it looks like her.

01:36:15.380 I don't, I don't know for a fact, but it looked just like her.

01:36:17.640 But to be fair, she is wearing that kind of like run-of-the-mill lesbian outfit kind of setup.

01:36:22.020 Not the pastor, just the face and the hair.

01:36:23.840 What you're wearing.

01:36:25.760 Exactly.

01:36:26.200 Yeah.

01:36:26.640 Well, I've got an eye for it.

01:36:28.640 Listen, I just thought you guys would find that, you know, from a non-religious person,

01:36:33.340 I found it very interesting because it's two people that genuinely believe that they are,

01:36:37.500 you know, super religious and in alignment with Christ and they couldn't be more at odds.

01:36:43.380 If you read the scripture, something interesting that we went through with Ed Mabry, shout out

01:36:46.700 to Ed Mabry, faithbyreason.net.

01:36:50.200 You know, you know, the whole, the tale of Jesus whipping the money, the money changers in the

01:36:54.740 back of the synagogue, right?

01:36:56.340 Something real interesting that I never really noticed or didn't think of was in the scriptures,

01:37:01.120 it says that he fashioned that whip.

01:37:02.600 He didn't just like pick it up somewhere or buy it.

01:37:05.840 He didn't go to the whip shop.

01:37:07.320 Made it.

01:37:08.020 Yeah.

01:37:08.440 And every knot he tied, he said, I'm going to fucking beat the shit out of you with this.

01:37:15.220 And he beat the shit out of these guys.

01:37:16.880 And people like her will go around and say, Jesus was a hippie.

01:37:19.840 Jesus was all about love.

01:37:21.140 It's like, nah, man, Jesus, that was premeditated, premeditated assault.

01:37:24.480 And he sat there and he whipped these motherfuckers ass because they were doing dumb shit.

01:37:28.960 And he warned them not to.

01:37:30.120 You're not supposed to be doing that.

01:37:31.260 No money changing in the temple.

01:37:32.380 No money changing at all.

01:37:33.360 Usury is pretty bad.

01:37:34.900 And so when they're talking about this love and forgiveness thing, sure, that's part of

01:37:38.180 it.

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01:38:39.180 The guy nailed it.

01:38:40.140 It's about repentance from sin.

01:38:41.460 It's about choosing Jesus Christ.

01:38:42.680 And, you know, she will be judged more harsh than anybody else because she knows or she should

01:38:47.740 know and she's in a position leading people astray.

01:38:50.000 And we can see that all throughout our society right now.

01:38:53.600 This isn't the way to go.

01:38:55.120 You want to do homosexuality?

01:38:57.080 That's monkey pox, baby.

01:38:58.600 You want to get married?

01:39:00.380 Yeah, get married.

01:39:01.540 We have babies, American babies, instead of Mexican people flooding our borders.

01:39:05.300 Simple as that, man.

01:39:06.060 Or you can put your penis where the poop is at.

01:39:07.880 Yeah.

01:39:08.280 Figure it out.

01:39:08.920 It's so simple.

01:39:11.880 I want to cut you guys off.

01:39:13.400 I just want to ask one more question about, you know, the culture war between Palumbo and

01:39:19.620 Tim Poole and Elijah.

01:39:21.640 I watched the whole thing.

01:39:22.940 I found it super entertaining.

01:39:25.740 I don't really agree with anybody in the conversation.

01:39:30.420 I thought that they all made kind of bad points from time to time.

01:39:34.560 But, Top, you seem to really enjoy it.

01:39:36.600 So I just want to get your feedback on it.

01:39:38.280 I agree with you.

01:39:38.920 I agree with your sentiment as well.

01:39:40.220 I think Elijah is obviously more correct.

01:39:42.640 And I think that Brad Palumbo is taking that, the old libertarian stance.

01:39:48.580 I mean, they said it a bunch of times, the line go up sort of idea.

01:39:52.420 That doesn't help culture.

01:39:54.060 The show is called The Culture War.

01:39:57.100 And really, this is all about, and everything we do is about culture.

01:40:00.820 If you want to move it, it's not going to be moved by economics.

01:40:03.680 That stuff is secondary to everything else we do.

01:40:06.340 If anything, the culture changes dramatically during times of economic largesse.

01:40:14.520 Look what happened to the culture as we had the best economy in human history.

01:40:20.580 The culture rotted.

01:40:21.980 Now, I'm not saying that that's a direct consequence of the economy.

01:40:25.820 But the correlation is interesting, at least.

01:40:28.320 And what I found most appalling, just as an actual libertarian,

01:40:31.620 was that Palumbo, throughout this entire fucking thing,

01:40:35.040 as he's talking about how, you know, Tim Pool's lamenting the fact that

01:40:37.720 young people can't afford houses and yada, yada, yada.

01:40:41.040 Brad Palumbo never once mentions the Federal Reserve.

01:40:43.680 Never once.

01:40:44.600 He goes, like, well, if it weren't for regulations,

01:40:48.200 then we would be building more housing.

01:40:49.800 It's like, bro, the reason that housing is so expensive is not regulations.

01:40:54.020 I mean, that's a chunk of it, no doubt.

01:40:55.760 But the primary driving force behind is usury, which is what you were pointing out,

01:41:00.880 which is the central bank, the Federal Reserve, fucking bearing interest rates,

01:41:05.360 which created, you know, outsized demand.

01:41:08.180 And it allows for hedge funds to come through and buy up tens and tens and tens of thousands of homes.

01:41:14.260 I mean, that absorbed the inventory, which then obviously, you know,

01:41:18.440 throws the supply curve out of whack.

01:41:21.100 And it's like, that's what happened.

01:41:23.220 But no one, like, this is what was driving me crazy.

01:41:24.980 I'm sitting there like, no one's saying the right thing.

01:41:27.160 Everyone's wrong here.

01:41:28.100 But it was still.

01:41:29.000 He should have been focused on that because his explanation was purely economical.

01:41:33.080 Whereas Elijah was making a, I thought he made a pretty strong cultural argument to,

01:41:37.980 yeah, these things do change.

01:41:39.380 And it's, Owen Benjamin was talking about the idea of scale.

01:41:42.620 When you get something so big, everything else,

01:41:45.980 everything that contributed to its growth has to become diluted.

01:41:48.800 And that's when you get shitty McDonald's rather than, you know, beef tallow.

01:41:52.640 If there's only one or two McDonald's.

01:41:54.180 It's like, this become, America has become like, I mean, the modern church has become a food chain store.

01:41:59.420 It's so big.

01:42:00.180 There's so many of them that they don't really mean anything anymore.

01:42:02.960 They've kind of lost the idea of what it's supposed to be.

01:42:05.180 So yeah, as the economy grows, as this country grows, and as diversity continues to expand,

01:42:10.060 it's just a scale thing.

01:42:11.360 Like, how do you keep this, this intact when it's just a bunch of people that are barely holding on?

01:42:17.260 I don't, I don't have the answers.

01:42:18.900 I think that that, that's the thing that has made me more of a nationalist and less of an open borders guy.

01:42:24.520 Is that like, I've just recognized that like, there is no cultural tie, you know, tie that binds us.

01:42:30.800 And, and it's, in my opinion, it's really irrefutable that that's because we've had so much immigration over the past,

01:42:39.700 not, not just the past four years, but the past 50.

01:42:42.360 Like, it's been, it's been a dramatic shift that has obviously changed the fabric of this country.

01:42:47.880 And I don't mean that it's like, it's not a hundred percent negative.

01:42:51.020 I think that immigrants to a large extent contribute in a positive fashion, but at a certain pace of immigration,

01:42:58.000 it's just obvious to me that there are deleterious consequences when it comes to the cultural fabric

01:43:02.240 and the thing that binds a people together.

01:43:04.960 And that, that was kind of what Elijah Schaefer's argument was.

01:43:07.480 And I think that that's, that's, well, he, he breaks it down to more of a Christian nationalist

01:43:12.980 and even a white nationalist argumentation to a certain extent.

01:43:16.600 I don't go that far, but I do think that there's, there's some merit to the arguments that are being made.

01:43:22.080 And it's just so frustrating that like, no one's able to actually just talk this out.

01:43:27.720 You know, Tim's yelling at Brad and Brad's talking about regulations and Elijah's talking about, you know,

01:43:32.700 Walmart's being too dirty.

01:43:33.900 And I'm like, that like, none of you are really getting the point across that needs to be made here.

01:43:38.920 I wish I had been there, honestly.

01:43:40.200 It would have been fun.

01:43:40.680 Because you've got to like address a bunch of other people's points too.

01:43:43.600 It's like, you know, maybe he did intend.

01:43:45.020 Oh, is Brad Lumbergate?

01:43:45.880 I've done it.

01:43:46.460 I've done it a dozen times.

01:43:47.700 It's very, it's very hard to get your points across in the moment.

01:43:50.520 So like, I'm not trying to lecture these guys.

01:43:52.020 I'm just saying there were some points that were missed that needed to be made.

01:43:54.780 That's all.

01:43:55.200 I think in his defense, in Elijah's defense, and I do the same sort of thing.

01:44:00.340 I think you have to go as far as possible.

01:44:02.760 So he went this white nationalist argument.

01:44:05.280 Does he believe it?

01:44:06.280 I don't think so.

01:44:06.980 Because his wife is Australian.

01:44:08.900 Like his kid is a partial immigrant as well.

01:44:11.440 I mean, that's to a degree.

01:44:12.100 But yeah, but you have to push that far if I want to come to a place of sensibility.

01:44:16.000 Whereas Brad Palumbo is very fine holding the line saying that nothing, Brad Palumbo's argument is that nothing is wrong.

01:44:22.140 And it's like, clearly something's wrong.

01:44:23.620 You're fucking sitting here.

01:44:24.740 They paid for you to come first class and sit here because something's wrong, Brad.

01:44:29.100 And he's like, no, it's fine.

01:44:30.040 We'll just keep moving along.

01:44:30.800 To Steelman Brad's argument, he's not saying nothing's wrong.

01:44:33.800 He's saying that free trade has no bearing on what's wrong.

01:44:36.800 And I think that that's also wrong.

01:44:38.280 I think that, and this is what drives me crazy, is that people want to win so that they're not going to be honest.

01:44:44.460 If Brad wants to be honest, the reality is that a lot of our free trade agreements are actually not free trade.

01:44:50.080 They actually hurt domestic production intentionally because that was the negotiation part of the trade.

01:44:57.000 Yeah, but we can get shit for cheaper though, Clint, you know?

01:45:00.000 Well, yeah.

01:45:00.600 I mean, and these are the arguments.

01:45:02.160 And it's like, I am a believer that free trade to a huge extent has benefited not just the American people, but the entire world and lifting the poorest of the poor into the lower class or some to the middle class, some to the upper class.

01:45:17.060 And it has been, on net, an unbelievable godsend.

01:45:21.700 But there are still obvious consequences to having no real production of, like, no industry, like, no real industry in America.

01:45:34.020 And you can't look at that and say, like, well, number go up, so obviously I'm right.

01:45:40.040 Like, no, it requires greater nuance.

01:45:43.460 And it just fucking frustrates me to no end that no one's willing to have that.

01:45:47.040 Isn't that the argument full circle to what we came here to discuss about Mexico where it's like, there is no real solution to this.

01:45:55.720 You're going to have to have these sacrifices because bad stuff's going to happen.

01:46:00.080 But do you want to continue as we are or should we try to have some kind of solution here, you know?

01:46:05.460 Well, this is really why I've been, I guess, kind of off the libertarian beaten path over the past few months or really the past year.

01:46:14.800 Is that, like, it's just so obvious to me that, like, yes, and the libertarians are right about this.

01:46:19.740 When they say, like, everything you're talking about is a product of government, you know, interference in the market.

01:46:24.560 And, like, they've fucked all this stuff up.

01:46:26.420 And it's like, okay, I agree with you on that.

01:46:28.700 Yeah.

01:46:28.920 But that doesn't change where we're at now.

01:46:31.180 Yeah.

01:46:31.320 Yes, exactly.

01:46:32.340 Like, that's what I'm most interested in is not placing the blame, which is 99% of the time on the government.

01:46:38.600 I grant you that.

01:46:39.620 But it's like, then what?

01:46:41.700 And oftentimes they don't have a real answer for that.

01:46:44.020 They just go, well, you shouldn't have done that.

01:46:45.580 And it's like, okay, well, I agree with you.

01:46:47.500 But then what?

01:46:48.380 What do we do now?

01:46:49.560 And I think that's where, you know, the rubber meets the road right now, particularly with an administration that seems interested in the then what?

01:46:57.480 What are they going to do?

01:46:58.600 And they're doing it.

01:46:59.620 And should we be supporting them?

01:47:02.140 Should we be course correcting?

01:47:03.580 Should we be critiquing on what direction they want to take?

01:47:06.360 And that's really where I'm at, where I'm like, I think that they're angling for a war with Mexico.

01:47:11.980 I'd rather have this conversation with you guys now and allow people to think about it for themselves so that they have a real opinion.

01:47:19.720 That is not just like, hoorah, we're America, we're the fucking global hegemon, we're upset about what happened over the past four years, the past 40, so we're going to go fuck somebody up.

01:47:29.880 Like, that's not the answer, guys.

01:47:31.460 Like, if you want to fuck somebody up, it should be because you want to stop human trafficking and you want to stop, you know, seeing your cousins and daughters die of drug overdoses.

01:47:38.820 Like, that may be your justification, but don't just make it some bombastic masculine, you know, battle cry.

01:47:45.100 It's the overcorrection.

01:47:46.400 It needs to be more thoughtful.

01:47:47.160 The overcorrection is not going to—

01:47:48.580 I'm trying to caution against the overcorrection, yeah.

01:47:50.160 That's not going to unfuck those kids.

01:47:52.140 The overcorrection is not going to bring your cousin back to life.

01:47:54.500 But we need to have a solution to stop this from happening in the future, and I think that there is a way towards that.

01:48:00.200 It might be ugly, depending on what the opposition does, but there's no choice.

01:48:05.520 Yeah.

01:48:06.300 I'll give you final comments, David.

01:48:08.660 I was just going to say I tend to agree with Top on that.

01:48:10.780 I think we are looking at a situation where it's very much like the economic bubble, right?

01:48:14.440 And it's like at some point we're going to have to get, you know, shit on.

01:48:17.900 It's going to have to burst.

01:48:18.960 If we keep prolonging it, things only get exponentially worse.

01:48:21.760 And so I think it's a very similar situation.

01:48:24.220 Eat your vegetables, America.

01:48:25.620 What's that?

01:48:26.640 Eat your vegetables, America.

01:48:28.960 Exactly.

01:48:29.700 Yeah.

01:48:30.020 So I think it's one of those things we've got to go through the fire first in order to come out of this because I don't see a solution that's not messy.

01:48:38.740 Yeah.

01:48:38.980 You know, I'm sure there's better solutions, more nuanced ones, more thoughtful ones, but they're all going to be messy.

01:48:44.140 Yeah.

01:48:44.580 Well, I think it's going to be messy either way, and a lot of this is out of our control.

01:48:49.620 I mean, we're just three guys talking into microphones here.

01:48:52.080 So, you know, but we do have some influence, and I'm just going to try and put that these, you know, more nuanced, more, I hope, more thoughtful ideas out there and hope that that reaches people before the propaganda wave comes.

01:49:07.560 Because it's already like cresting, like it's already approaching, and I just, I can feel it.

01:49:12.140 I can feel it, and I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

01:49:15.020 With your platform now, again, I know it's like last look, but with your platform now and the way media works, not in the traditional sense anymore, there still is that old guard of, there's a lot of people that listen to it, but your platform's not inconsiderable.

01:49:27.460 You can get on TimCast, you can get on Dave Smith, you can get on other big shows, maybe even Joe Rogan at some point, and say this stuff and cut this stuff off at the knees.

01:49:34.940 Or at least present this kind of doubt, so like this is huge what you're talking here and thinking, the ideas that we're thinking through, the comments that will come in after calling us this or that.

01:49:43.720 But I'll read them, and I'll see what these people are saying, and perhaps I have to change my view or sharpen it or make it more nuanced, because it's important.

01:49:50.600 Because we're talking to somebody like a Clint Russell, or maybe somebody watches this, that it gets spread along, and it changes how people think.

01:49:58.360 It's very possible in this day and age.

01:49:59.800 Oh, very, and it's, I mean, I know this for a fact, because I see Dave, you know, repeating my tweets.

01:50:08.860 Like, maybe it's just because it's similar thought, and he had the same idea.

01:50:13.660 I'm sure that happens sometimes too, but there are other times where I'm definitely inspiring that.

01:50:17.320 I see that with Tim Pool all the time.

01:50:19.120 Rogan also follows me.

01:50:20.360 So like, these things do have a knock-on effect, and you know, even if I don't get on Rogan, Dave definitely will.

01:50:26.620 So, you know, he'll be putting his voice on the scale, so to speak.

01:50:33.600 And I don't know.

01:50:34.600 It's just a very interesting time.

01:50:35.920 But anyways, guys, I really appreciated it.

01:50:37.940 It ended up being much less contentious than I expected, but I thought it was actually very productive, which is rare in the internet blood sport debate category.

01:50:47.120 But I guess it wasn't really a debate.

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01:51:46.840 Support over there is great, too.

01:51:49.180 And last but not least, leave a five-star review.

01:51:51.360 Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you're listening right now.

01:51:53.540 Share it around if you found this interesting or entertaining.

01:51:56.340 Should be both, I hope.

01:51:58.120 Share it around and let people know that there are people that are trying to think these things through rationally

01:52:03.200 and not just lead you astray.

01:52:06.080 Appreciate you.

01:52:06.620 Peace.

01:52:06.800 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:52:13.860 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:52:17.620 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, they're gone.

01:52:23.080 Because they'll lack in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:52:30.700 And they have.

01:52:31.480 So that's what we're going on to try to say, they're going to look back in the corner of the room.

01:52:35.420 And they're going to look back in the corner of the room.

01:52:35.580 We're going to be не Blahn.

01:52:36.220 So they're going to take an pasture.

01:52:37.160 We're going up to try to see it, without mentioning that they're going on.

01:52:38.440 eddh.

Nephilim Death Squad - January 30, 2025

Clint Russell vs NDS - Cartel Debate

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