00:23:59.000and they've lived in all this darkness.
00:24:00.500Yeah. And they're starting to come to Christ. And there's this sanctification process that doesn't happen overnight. And for people, for churchgoers today, they look at those people and they're like, that's terrifying that you should not be associating with them. And it's exactly what they were doing to Jesus. Like, I think we like that story when in our mind, the people Jesus was associating with was pretty good people. But it's like, what if they were horrifying people? And that's why the religious institution was horrified that he was engaging with them.
00:24:27.320You know, what's horrifying to me is the idea that somebody could have gone through horrifying things, let's say addiction and homelessness and, you know, committing crimes and just morally debased.
00:24:40.780And to finally have a moment where they're fed up with that in their life and they go to approach this thing that feels like the opposite, which is a life in Christ.
00:24:51.900and instead where they end up is a place where they're pretending
00:26:11.780And a lot of us are in horrifying places.
00:26:14.620And so you would see that reflected in the people around you.
00:26:18.020you would feel a sense of belonging. But like I said, you can show up to this thing and you can
00:26:22.940pretend for a while, but eventually the truth is going to out and you're going to feel like,
00:26:27.560no, these aren't my people. I don't belong. You know, these are, let's say like my church is
00:26:32.680just filled with boomers who drive golf carts, who are very nice, but all pretending to be1.00
00:26:39.060squeaky clean. There's nothing in them that you can see they ever lived a life. I have no idea1.00
00:26:43.780what life they've ever lived. But knowing what I'm doing and what I'm talking about, even though
00:26:49.400I'm not doing morally debased things or anything like that, I get the feeling that I don't belong
00:26:54.420in there. So it's only so long before you can go, all right, I'm going to go pursue Christ,
00:26:59.740but I'm going to do it in a different way. Yeah. And I think you're hinting at the model
00:27:02.780kind of facilitates that. It's an interesting model. What did you say that it's like a kid's
00:27:07.860thing set for a grown-up? Yeah, yeah. It's like a children's show that they geared for adults.
00:27:12.680right so it's almost like that model kind of facilitates that yeah yeah yeah that's tough0.97
00:27:18.380man and not to say those boomers on golf carts don't have some raw ass story dude i mean i've0.80
00:27:22.760met some like wealthy successful people in the villages that you hang out with them and hear0.94
00:27:26.400their story from where they came from and everything they went through but when you go
00:27:30.240to this place yeah it's weird in that environment it's kind of like let's nerf this it's like no
00:27:35.160dude like i want you to know that i'm just like you that i used to sell drugs and eat trash from
00:27:40.120a dumpster and you belong here yeah like that is absent and then also the additional grittiness
00:27:48.200where it's like i've seen actual evil i know what you know and trust me this is this is a place where
00:27:54.660you should be yeah okay we went off the rails sorry sorry i got into that but it's very intriguing
00:28:00.060uh one two eight all right so so now so that was from last week
00:28:04.320yeah yeah we're good it's like a 20 minute intro we're good all right so now we're in verse 9 but
00:28:10.740as it is written i has not seen nor ear heard neither have entered into the heart of man can
00:28:17.000you pull up isaiah 64 4 while i'm reading this okay because that because that's what he's talking
00:28:20.700about i don't know how to isaiah how would you like okay isa yeah because you know they do
00:28:24.940shorthand 64 4 yeah uh because he says as it is written so we'll pull up what he's referencing
00:28:30.540Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart of man the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
00:28:37.700But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit, for the Spirit searches all things, yea, the deep things of God.
00:28:43.760So we've gotten into this for a couple weeks now because it overlapped with the Tozer sermon, too, that the way we know God is by the Spirit revealing him, right?
00:31:36.300What he hath prepared for him that waits for him.
00:31:39.980So that adds another intriguing element.
00:31:42.620What he hath prepared for him that waits for him.
00:31:45.780For since the beginning of the world, men have not heard nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waits for him.
00:45:28.940but the spirit, which is of God, that we might know the things that are freely given to us of
00:45:34.480God. So he's saying like, there's things that only our spirit knows of us, that only the spirit of
00:45:40.280God knows of God. And we have this communication spirit to spirit. These things have been revealed
00:45:45.480to us. I hasn't seen it. I can't see it. Ear can't, ear hasn't heard it. Ear can't hear it,
00:45:49.960but it can be revealed by his spirit. Okay. Which things also we speak not in the words,
00:45:57.340which man's wisdom teaches, he keeps coming back to this, right? He's talking about not the spirit
00:46:02.100of the world, not man's wisdom, which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom
00:46:09.800teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches, right? So we're back to this idea, think of this whole
00:46:15.880concept that like spirit to spirit engagement, the spirit of God is the one who knows God. Our
00:46:21.440spirit is the one that knows us. This is how things are being revealed to us. We're being taught by
00:46:26.420the Holy Ghost. Can you imagine if this is left out in people's Christianity, if you will?
00:46:34.220This goes back to John, right? Where it says like, no man need teach you for the anointing
00:46:38.740that you receive. Yeah, yeah. That's not in the gospel, John. It's in like either one John or
00:46:43.060two John. It's in one of his letters. But in John's gospel in chapter 14, he says the Holy
00:46:47.680Spirit will teach you all things and bring all things to your memory. It's like this idea of
00:46:51.860like shafting the Holy ghost or somehow having Christianity that doesn't include the Holy0.54
00:46:56.440ghost teaching you. Yeah. I don't know, man. And if people even get offended by that, they're like,
00:47:01.360oh yeah, you, you know, you need, you need the professionals to teach you because if they don't,
00:47:06.080that's how you end up with a billion denominations. It's like, wait, wait, wait,
00:47:08.640but you're really saying that like the Holy ghost doesn't teach you.
00:47:12.260I mean, I think what they should be saying is like all these denominations. And if you've got
00:47:17.440LGBTQ pastor with the, you know, gay flag outside the thing and all this. Instead of like, look what0.98
00:47:23.460happens when it's like, no, no, no. The Holy Spirit didn't teach you that. Right. Like that,
00:47:28.580that's the accurate criticism. The Holy Spirit didn't teach you that. Right. The Holy Spirit
00:47:32.640didn't say, cause I remember watching a female pastor say something about the divinity of Jesus0.52
00:47:39.640is a problem because it's exclusionary to other religions. And she's standing at a pulpit saying
00:47:44.660that. And she's like leading a congregation. And it's like the Holy Spirit didn't teach you that.
00:47:48.820Right. The issue is not that the Holy Ghost is teaching people. It's that the Holy Ghost did
00:47:53.420not teach you that. Yeah. And, and I don't think that you're going to find that the Holy Ghost is
00:47:57.820teaching you things that are contrary to scripture. Bingo. So as soon as you see that,
00:48:01.660somebody saying the Holy Ghost said this, or God told me that, and it's contradictory to scripture.
00:48:06.780Yeah. That's the issue. Right. And also like, I don't know, there's like this weird thing where
00:48:11.700they're like, oh, well, God taught you something. So now you're starting a new denomination
00:48:16.620and you're trying to get people to agree with you. It's no, no, no. I'm just some dude. I'm
00:48:21.560just some dude, man. I have it. And I have a biblical relationship with God, according to
00:48:25.780the scripture. Like I have that same kind of relationship with God where the Holy ghost is
00:48:29.420teaching me. And I don't care if you follow me or if you want to be part of my denomination.
00:48:33.920I don't want your money. I'm not asking you for anything. I'm simply saying I'm a biblical
00:48:37.960Christian who's taught by the Holy Ghost. And many of those things, most of those things may
00:48:43.100be things pertaining to my life that he may be talking to me about. Very specific to you.
00:48:48.040Yeah. Cause I think there's an offensive thing too, for people where, um, you know,
00:48:53.200you get into these conversations where people say, what does this passage say to you? You know,
00:48:57.040and then there's a group of people that says, no, no, no, no, no. It it's not, you can't just say,
00:49:01.580what does this passage say to you? This passage says something and that's all it says. Right.
00:49:05.560it's like okay okay let's unpack that because like you know a passage can say two plus two is four
00:49:12.120right but like god can unpack that for you and say hey man yeah you know you have two if a human
00:49:17.660is capable of expressing something and there's and it's multi-layered yeah which is like a form
00:49:22.480of speech that is championed in like creative writing when somebody says a thing and there's
00:49:26.840multiple layers to that thing of meaning um certainly god can yeah yeah two plus two is four
00:49:33.160but like two apples plus two oranges is four fruits yeah in fact god is capable of of saying
00:49:39.660something that is true at its core but then reveals an individual truth to every person
00:49:47.720walking the face of this earth that's unique to them and all of those things are truth right
00:49:51.700you'd hope so you'd hope so you know people would like read the story of david in bathsheba yeah
00:49:56.760and it starts with at the time when kings go out to war david was just hanging out on his balcony
00:50:02.540like checking out chicks from balcony. Yeah. You'd hope that the spirit of God would bring
00:50:06.940that, make that alive and bring it into a man's heart today and say any number of things like,
00:50:11.920Hey, yeah. Be careful about looking at naked chicks when you're alone, when you should be1.00
00:50:15.440out at work. But look at a King that doesn't go to war with his people. What worth is he?0.97
00:50:19.840There's, there's a million angles and perspectives. Be careful about being lazy or slack or not doing
00:50:28.160anything when you should be working yeah i mean there's any number of layers to how god could
00:50:33.500speak this and make this passage real to you even though the passage says one thing amen in writing
00:50:38.820it only says one thing sure but how god impacts that and teaches you by it could be multi-layered
00:50:43.680and could be different for different people also you would hope you know that god is that capable
00:50:50.320or else what god are you serving right it's just it's a living word dude yeah if not if it's just
00:50:56.180two plus two is four then this is a cold dead document and there's no way it can be that yeah
00:51:00.080jesus said my words are spirit and they are life and so anyway yeah you hope that the holy ghost
00:51:06.200is unpacking this and then maybe that's why people are bored by the bible because the holy ghost
00:51:10.280isn't unpacking it for them they're just studying it like it's a book on history about the spanish
00:51:14.820war the civil war whatever you read a chronological logging of things yeah yeah you're just trying to
00:51:20.400like access data and store it like you would with any other topic but that that's not how this
00:51:25.580operates man um by the way guys if you're up for it drop a question or two in the chat because
00:51:31.600i have to pee and i would like to pass a question to matt so that he doesn't try to vamp
00:51:35.880uh without anything interesting uh okay ask the questions you're gonna run well no they can ask
00:51:41.260the questions we'll let them get in there but let's keep reading scripture we'll give them a
00:51:43.760couple minutes okay so i'll run to the restroom real quick and then you'll go you want to run
00:51:47.380to the restroom you can go to the bathroom which things also we speak not in the words which man's
00:51:52.900wisdom teaches right so man's wisdom we've already been over that the wisdom of the age that man
00:51:59.480lives in the wisdom of the world that's just physical that can't acknowledge the spirit realm
00:52:04.340right right like that's this interesting thing that so-called science gets into is it's only
00:52:10.080can take into consideration things from the material realm it can't take it the cosmos that
00:52:14.460word the world is cosmos in verse 12 okay it can only take into consideration the things of the
00:52:18.880material realm and can't take in this idea that the worlds were framed by the word of god yeah
00:52:23.780that the seen things were made from the unseen so so how far can man's wisdom really teach
00:52:30.000if it's based on that which things also we speak not in the words which man's wisdom teaches but
00:52:35.260which the holy ghost teaches comparing spiritual things with spiritual that's an intriguing
00:52:42.700statement can what would be an example of that comparing spiritual things with spiritual puzzle
00:52:47.860pieces that's how i look at that dude it's like puzzle pieces you know like the bible in the
00:52:53.760beginning is the hardest it's the in the beginning just starting to get your bible learning going
00:53:00.200is the hardest but as soon as you start accumulating some puzzle pieces then other
00:53:05.280puzzle pieces connect to those puzzle pieces you have it's it's comparing spiritual things
00:53:09.560with spiritual yeah just like anything else dude watch a watch a sports game with little kids or
00:53:14.020grown-ups on tv either one and look how critical momentum is dude like the snowball effect like
00:53:18.820look how critical it is to get them oh yeah yeah sure sure your momentum going the right way man
00:53:25.060once you get your momentum going the right way you can maintain it but as soon as you stop
00:53:28.780maintaining it it just yeah so you got so comparing spiritual things with spirituals like accumulate
00:53:33.540those puzzle pieces man like understand the spirit realm like understand the word of god start to get
00:53:38.880this grasp on the word of god and his spirit as his spirit's teaching you and you're able to
00:53:43.680compare spiritual things with spiritual but the natural man receives not the things of the spirit
00:53:51.220of god because they're foolishness unto him not only are they foolishness unto him and he uh
00:53:56.760doesn't receive them neither can he know them right he can't because he doesn't have the holy
00:54:02.500spirit all he has is the wisdom of this world of the cosmos that's all he's got man you you can see
00:54:07.940that it's in a um a real sort of logistical fashion when you have conversations with people
00:54:14.960that are all mechanical they're all data they're all information and you try to express this to
00:54:21.180them and it's like yeah you're just throwing you know uh the guy the guy that you neil degrassi
00:54:27.100tyson oh yeah his degrassi yeah shout out to his degrassi uh like that guy it's like that like that
00:54:33.300guy goes on you're never gonna yeah so intelligent it's like the it's like the epitome of like a
00:54:38.700pseudo-intellectual nothing you're going to say is going to land there it's all natural realm
00:54:42.980cosmos yeah the wisdom of this world he's just talking what he can't receive that's right the
00:54:48.080black astronaut uh space guy uh i'm gonna drop a question here i'm gonna pass you the uh the okay
00:54:54.760let's go the the the mouse so that you can continue it on cdub cdub says matt my question
00:55:00.360are we the followers of christ the new israel or is there now i'm not doing an israel to israel
00:55:06.940thanks matt love you but they said they love you just hurry up hurry up i know but this is always
00:55:12.040like the dumb and i could try to answer some questions when i come back if you got a pp
00:55:15.380okay all right fine i'll unpack this israel then all right are the followers of christ the new0.97
00:55:22.500israel uh well i think we unpacked it a little bit already when we referred to the house of god
00:55:27.900the pillar and ground of truth to me that's always existed right and so you got to do finger quotes
00:55:34.260sometimes when you're talking about israel in a certain sense israel has always existed uh he is
00:55:40.960he is a jew who is one inwardly not outwardly um obviously before the nation of it israel doesn't
00:55:48.040even start until abraham right it there's a strong argument that doesn't even start till moses right
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00:56:53.420meal delivery service. Anchovy Apostle the other day about when Israel became a nation,
00:56:58.900and I was making the point that they became a nation when they were given the law. Like the
00:57:03.040same way America has a constitution, like Moses, they're kind of a nation, but they're a nation
00:57:08.980inside of Egypt. They're a slave nation, right? Like I don't think at that time they would have0.69
00:57:13.600all the things a nation has, like a government and a flag and I don't know, whatever all these
00:57:18.160things are that nations have. So sure, they're a people group, but they're enslaved inside of
00:57:24.100another nation. And then they actually become their own nation when they're given law, right?
00:57:29.240Like that, like some of us would say that was the point of the law. It was given to the nation of
00:57:33.460Israel. So like everybody before then who was God's homies, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, everybody0.99
00:57:39.580from the 12 tribes like think of all the people noah enoch i mean it's an interesting discussion
00:57:45.960to be had about um this dude melchizedek let's just put him off to the side for a second but
00:57:51.240let's think about the priest of midian who was moses father-in-law potentially job who uh shout
00:57:57.540out laney is jobab uh in the septuagint looks like a dude that's like pre-law that's tight with god
00:58:04.480There's definitely these dudes that are before Israel that are tight with God, and then there's this law given to the nation of Israel, and it has a beginning.
00:58:14.820I would argue that the Galatian letter explains when it had an end, and it was to a very specific people group.
00:58:21.540So as far as us being Israel, everything points to Jesus, right?
00:58:26.840Like everything in the Bible is a story of Jesus.
00:58:28.780Even these passages that talk about like, uh, I called Israel out of Egypt, my firstborn
00:58:33.280son, you know, even that's referencing Jesus.
00:59:23.460Yeah, nematodes will destroy the roots. But what they're really doing is creating more organic matter in the soil by destroying those roots. They'll decay and be organic matter in the soil. So that's why you need good, strong organic matter. If you live in Florida, we have like white sugar sand.
00:59:36.520That way the nematodes don't have to do their job.
00:59:38.500Yeah. So anyway, there's mulberry varieties that are nematode resistant, right? So you graft onto
00:59:44.520those trees. So say you have like an ever-bearing mulberry, which only puts off like these really
00:59:49.120little tiny mulberries and they're not that great, but it's nematode resistant. So you would graft
00:59:54.500onto that like a Skinner variety. Well, Skinner variety, those roots will get eaten up by,
00:59:59.460if you can even get it to root, they'll get eaten up by nematodes, right? So you graft onto it.
01:00:03.840So it's a similar thing. It's compatible, but it's not the same thing. So like we've been grafted
01:00:07.740on to that we're compatible and all of that is connected to us that story everything that's in
01:00:13.180this story all of the law and profits is connected to us it's all our story huh but i that's what i'm
01:00:19.280saying i don't want to get into this because then you say stuff and then people go off the rails
01:00:22.580what israel god bless israel very divisive nematode what do they look like they're microscopic
01:00:30.220so i don't know but they will destroy your stuff figs too figs are um not nematode resistant how
01:01:16.480And I would say Israel and the church is not the same. They're compatible.1.00
01:01:20.900And if you say, Oh no, you're going off the rails. They deny Christ. Okay.
01:01:24.480Yeah. I'm, I'm with you. Like that's not, that's not compatible. Right.
01:01:28.820And the way it's acted out today is, is wild too.
01:01:33.140And I think that like in the same way that Jesus was not compatible with the Israel of his day, if you will, the organized religious institution that was Israel of his day, he was not compatible with that.
01:02:01.180that's interesting too because when it comes to the christian zionist thing and it says like
01:02:04.860um uh whoever denies the father denies i mean whoever denies the son denies the father right
01:02:10.800is that that's in scripture i believe something to that extent i mean i know jesus talks about
01:02:14.900like uh you you're you know like in the story in luke where he says hey go back and uh tell my
01:02:20.400brothers uh you know warn them that they don't come to hell that they don't come to this place
01:02:25.560Yeah. And then the response is, no, he's got Moses and the prophets. If they don't respond to Moses and the prophets, they won't respond if one comes back from the dead. So it's like a double thing. It's like we as Christians should be responding to the law and the prophets, right? Like it's all one story and you can't have the father without the son and you can't have the son without the father.
01:02:48.980So, okay, here's a better example then to kind of get at what I'm getting at. To not be yoked with unbelievers. So then how then does like somebody who champions the idea of Judeo-Christian values or like Christian Zionism, which I'm not even going to really claim that I fully understand Christian Zionism.0.99
01:03:11.420um i know it's just like i definitely don't it's like uber support for israel to the extent where
01:03:16.980you're almost one in the same entity um how how do they square that because you're literally like
01:03:23.280you're a non-believer you don't believe in jesus christ uh and and so we're not meant to be yoked
01:03:28.800with you so to have a judeo-christian value if you have this love for israel i get it dude like
01:03:35.000our whole story sure sure but like what about being yoked with unbelievers good question that's0.86
01:03:41.400And then you look at Israel, and I don't know enough about it, but from what I understand from what people send me and from what you guys talk about, they're doing evil things on the planet.0.99
01:03:54.000It's like, okay, well, if we're reading modern-day Israel the same way we would read 1 Kings, 2 Kings, 1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Judges, et cetera, we definitely look at time periods where they're off the rails and they're doing evil.0.86
01:04:05.740And so, yeah, do you want to go be linked up to Israel when Ahab is running Israel and say, hey, yeah, we want to support you and give you money, Ahab and Jezebel, so you can continue what you're doing?0.71
01:04:15.920No, of course, in that state, we wouldn't support that.0.65
01:07:20.940And I really kind of threw the towel in because the Lord made me in a very specific way where I learned through conversation.
01:07:27.860I always have. I've always been this way.
01:07:30.680And even since my early conspiracy days, it was much more absorbing documentaries and videos and pausing and, you know, not so much reading.
01:07:41.240And so if that's how I learned, then that's how I have to learn this.
01:22:13.820And that is also saying that if Paul were to be communicating with them, he would be saying, I can't even speak to you about the spiritual, but only about the carnal because you're literally babies.
01:22:26.480Yeah, I have to correct this as if to say I have to correct this, this being the strife, the divisions, because that's how he opens up.
01:22:34.660That's an interesting point, right?0.87
01:22:36.120And it's like, yeah, no matter what the case may be, Paul would have written a scathing letter and he would have condemned, you know, the behavior because it's all the same shit that we're seeing today.0.87
01:22:49.700Yeah, it's like they wrote to him and said, hey, we're thinking about getting new windows, man.0.85
01:22:54.460Should we get Anderson windows or should we get the Home Depot windows or Lowe's has a good deal on them right now?
01:23:00.400He's like, hey, guys, guys, your house is on fire.
01:30:29.620You're not a good representation of Christ because you're carnal.
01:30:33.140Like we had to get over this because when there's ambying and strife and divisions, this is the exact opposite of the mind of Christ.
01:30:40.200like we've been given the mind of christ which is more or less that others are more important than
01:30:44.760us right love your neighbor as yourself i don't know that anybody lives up to that like think of
01:30:50.860all the things you do for yourself throughout the day are you do you do that for somebody else i
01:30:55.160almost called the cops on my neighbor the other day that's what i'm saying i was very pissed off
01:30:58.320so just loud music uh it's like a dude who's got a teenage son and he pulled up with a bunch of
01:31:06.680his friends so it was three pickup trucks and the pickup truck beds were filled with kids and the
01:31:11.160interiors were filled with kids and the music was bumping and it was like 10 30 at night and they're0.99
01:31:15.720just swearing in the middle of the parking lot and threatening to beat each other's asses and shit0.97
01:31:20.520and then like all of a sudden uh another crowd of them walks down the parking lot so whoever0.99
01:31:26.040couldn't fit in the cars i guess they were nearby so they all start walking now there's like 20 kids0.83
01:31:30.260and they're just screaming the worst shit ever and they're revving their engines and i pull my
01:31:34.860phone out and i've literally got it sitting there i was going to call that's a reason that's0.99
01:31:38.640reasonable to just say hey it's 10 30 i'm trying to go to bed it's real loud yeah yeah i was i was
01:31:42.680getting pretty uh pretty upset that's a reasonable thing i wasn't i wasn't uh getting ready to go to
01:31:47.300bed i was really thinking about like just oh like you're gonna come in here and do this and turn the0.64
01:31:52.740neighborhood to shit and i'm awake i'm fine i was working on the porch but like i'm gonna start like0.96
01:31:58.060other people are probably listening right now there's old ladies who are afraid you know to0.99
01:32:02.620say anything but are really upset and so that's kind of order around here we don't want this
01:32:06.720apartment complex then i shot them i thought about shooting them right i didn't though i
01:32:10.640captured that thought in christ a little much all right so uh so yeah it's just interesting man so
01:32:15.820and it just brings up this thought about the divisions and the divisions are based on followers
01:32:19.680of peter followers of paul followers of apollos isn't that what our denominations are today it's
01:32:26.580just an interesting conversation man followers of calvin it's rallying around some truth that
01:32:32.200some man a god had and it's like it by by trying to just unify around this one central doctrine or
01:32:38.340this one central theology or this one central way of thinking like by doing that you destroy the
01:32:44.680witness of the church man yep it's like at some point it has to be the full counsel of god man
01:32:49.720and being accepting that there's some people that kind of flow with peter more and there's some
01:32:53.720people that kind of flow with apollo but it all where is it flowing yeah christ yeah hopefully
01:32:58.420with christ i mean that's a weird thing because some of them in the church say but i'm of christ
01:33:01.820and it's maybe that's good but maybe that's bad maybe they're saying hey this is all about christ
01:33:05.900but he's saying in a rebuking way almost that they're like oh no no no i'm with christ i'm not
01:33:10.120you guys follow them but i follow christ but even in that type of thinking maybe they had their
01:33:14.340their divisions because of that like i i don't know i don't know but the divisions are wild man
01:33:18.900there's supposed to be a unity in the body and that's why we talk about like that's only going
01:33:22.700to happen by christ dude like there's no way the body of christ in america is going to find any kind
01:33:26.760of unity until god oh yeah god does yeah it would take that now like how many splintered factions
01:33:32.820there are yeah and this is you can see the money at stake think of the money at stake oh yeah american
01:33:37.940churches today you just drop your megachurch and and uh you know co co co coalesce into it what is
01:33:44.220is that a real word coalesce i think so i don't really know the meaning i think there's an esqd
01:33:47.980i just used it now i don't know what it means coalesce i think it's a word you get together
01:33:52.640yeah you're gonna go i'm gonna drop my megachurch now i'm just gonna get absorbed into some other
01:33:56.260church all this income is that a real word wait how far are we going dude uh we can go a little
01:34:03.500bit further i want to wrap it up because i know you have something to do uh i know you do okay
01:34:07.240so verse four says well i do want to say though we talked about this probably in the first episode
01:34:12.200from the outside looking in to somebody who is like christ curious right as you approach this
01:34:18.280situation and you see all the division and all the strife you go here's the problem if you're a
01:34:23.280thinker right i mean and you can't even fault that person for going like yeah i know it's a
01:34:27.900big ass mess dude think think about it think about i was thinking about this the other day man0.53
01:34:31.380it's like top lobs to everybody uh you're so say somebody comes to you and says oh you're a0.98
01:34:36.960christian yeah man you hold the mysteries the universe like you you know the creator of the
01:34:41.020universe yeah jesus is god man there's no other way but by jesus right he's the way the truth
01:34:45.020and the life man there's no other way okay cool man where are you at on the pre-trib rapture yet
01:34:50.040or where are you at on the rapture it's pre-trib man but beyond the shadow of a doubt there's no
01:34:53.920way to say anything else it's pre-trib rapture okay cool goes to the next guy hey man you hold
01:34:58.260the mysteries of a universe yeah yeah man jesus is god there's no other way to god other than
01:35:02.680through jesus man he's the way the truth and the life where are you at on the rapture it's post-trib
01:35:06.280rapture man like if you believe anything different you're completely wrong so you get to this point
01:35:10.360where people are like okay well they're not they can't both be right about the rapture
01:35:15.260Then somebody else comes in and says the rapture is a sigh.
01:35:17.140But then they say they're so positive that Jesus is God.
01:35:20.580It's like, I think at some point we have to say, okay, what are the things that are non-negotiable that I am positive about?
01:35:26.200And can I be humble enough, even though I see in the scripture and believe in the scripture in a pre-trip, post-trip, mid-trip, whichever it is.
01:35:33.560I believe that by the scripture, but can I be humble enough to say I could be wrong?
01:35:37.740I'm in a place where I don't know much other than Christ crucified.