DAVE SMITH BUTTF＊CKS CUOMO - DEBATE WATCH PARTY
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2 hours and 21 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Pat and Chris debate whether or not the "Trump Vaxxing" is actually a conspiracy theory or if it was actually a good idea. Plus, Chris and Pat debate if Joe Rogan should be ashamed of himself for taking horse dewormer.
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People who were skeptical about this, demonizing the people rather than demonizing the powerful.
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So listen, listen, hold on, let me just say for a second,
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2020 was the largest transfer of wealth in human history.
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And it was from the working and middle class in America
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So you think that's what the vaccine was about?
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No, my point is that that went completely uncovered by the corporate press.
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because the whole thing was, it was an election year,
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And so this was the new attempt now to ruin Donald Trump
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Okay, first of all, you were, when you're talking about,
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Praising the vaccine did not come in until Trump was gone and Joe Biden was in, okay?
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If anybody remembers at the time, as of the presidential debates,
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Kamala Harris said, I'll never take that vaccine if that's a Trump vaccine.
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And you and nobody else at CNN vilified her for saying that.
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of people demonizing Kamala Harris for not taking the vaccine?
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You just showed a montage, or whatever, Gravian's montage.
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And by the way, there are plenty more people on Fox News
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For the record, Fox News was terrible on this as well.
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No, just the corporate media and the government.
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Okay, he's pulling the conspiracy theory fucking point.
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meaning they are looking for ways to be different than the other ones.
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But they just all wound up saying the same thing,
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Yeah, okay, so again, to take on what you just said.
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No, not everyone, and not everyone who gets paid.
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Joe Rogan is bigger than every single show at CNN combined,
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and gets paid more than every single person at CNN combined.
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And he was 100% right about this thing through the entire time.
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Okay, how about, you know what you just revealed last month on Pat's show about ivermectin?
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Joe Rogan was saying that, and you were smearing him for saying that.
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You literally said, he's taking horse dewormer.
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Turns out humans are, but Chris, a five-minute Google search, and you would have known that.
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The people who make ivermectin disagree with you.
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The Nobel Prize-winning medication that's been administered to billions?
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So, you just pretended that I said it's a standalone for COVID.
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It's not horse dewormer as you and everybody else at CNN mindlessly repeated.
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He said, and what I'm saying is that it is a medicine that's been prescribed to people
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You said it two years too late, but you already said why.
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Now, what Pat has on his desk right now, you do not want to take.
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People were so desperate to get it because they were told it was a panacea.
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So why was there a rush on ivermectin all of a sudden?
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Okay, it's that the medical establishment and the corporate media so humiliated themselves
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that they lost trust with the entire American people.
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And then, yeah, there were some charlatans online who were saying, oh, go take this.
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If you didn't know what Rogan said, take any form of ivermectin you can get and you'll never get COVID.
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Also, let me tell you why I think apologies in this context are a stunt, okay?
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As a concept, and you should too on this, and I'll tell you why.
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Ivermectin, it wasn't because the media said don't take it, so everyone took it.
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The media would have never been talking about it unless people were taking it.
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They actually stop physicians from being able to prescribe it, which I think was a mistake.
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They then start giving out veterinary grade Ivermectin, which, as the word would suggest,
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No, people were desperately trying to get it online.
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Ivermectin is the most studied potential treatment for COVID of all of them, which was a complete
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And it was all done just to play on the politics of this.
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Merck, that made Ivermectin, put out a statement during this saying, we do not advise it to be
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You can't find research that is seen as impressive by the research community that proves that
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I will find, Rob can find you a hundred studies, right?
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And I didn't take hydroxychloroquine when I was sick with COVID-19, even though a lot
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The research wasn't there on experimental gene therapy.
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Do the people on the government levels and the research communities like that I said
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Do they think I'm setting myself up for lawsuits?
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But my doctor, I believe, is in the vanguard of people who are figuring out long COVID.
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And she has a lot of the same problems, by the way, with me and with the pandemic that
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And she has found research and she has had her own experience in using it in a combination
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with many other things where she believes it may be able to help.
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It is definitely safe, but it's not horse-paced because it's not horse-paced.
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By the way, no one ever at CNN during this time, when they were all saying it's horse dewormer,
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No one ever said, we're talking about the veterinarian ivermectin.
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Weren't they happy to report on the influx of people in the hospital for ivermectin
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And then I'll tell you what I think you should apologize for.
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Obviously, there was so much talk that they don't want you to take ivermectin.
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And by the way, I don't like what people did to Joe Rogan about ivermectin.
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You and Don Lemon were chuckling at each other about it.
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No, no, no, the clip I'm talking about wasn't on there.
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You know, you talk about, like, you know, cancel culture and who to shame.
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So you're taking a dewormer right now for a shame.
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Dude, you're being so dishonest right now, Matt.
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You were not talking about this version of ivermectin.
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They are really sacrificing this motherfucker right now.
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...where we were told that this is what people were searching out to take, and nobody knew
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No, it just means you have no moral foundation.
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CNN's chief medical officer, who is Sanjay Gupta, said to me, you shouldn't just call it a horse
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I wouldn't use it for COVID-19, but it's not just a veterinary grave.
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So I stopped calling it that, and then it went away.
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One of the moments during the pandemic was when Dr. Gupta, who was just mentioned, went
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on Joe Rogan's podcast, for all the days of CNN demonizing Joe Rogan, they send their
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top doctor out there onto his show, and he goes, why is everyone on your network saying
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And Dr. Gupta looked down at his lap and went, yeah, no, they shouldn't be saying that.
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No, actually, after that, he went back and laughed, as Don Lemon called it horse dewormer
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But then, there was a moment, and this was the best moment.
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The point when the people like me, and I'm sure a lot of you, were basically turned into
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second-class citizens, weren't allowed to go into restaurants, weren't allowed to go
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to sporting events, weren't allowed to go into a lot of different office buildings,
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things like that, and you, personally, along with everyone at CNN, cheered that on.
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You mused and joked around when you were interviewing Dr. Fauci about what rights the unvaccinated
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So, Dr. Gupta goes to Joe Rogan and says, it is in the middle of all this.
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It's not, it's just like when you were, listen, that's not even close to accurate.
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You may not say it this way, but this is what I think you're suggesting.
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You believe that you were demonized for not taking the vaccine, and that was wrong because
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I don't, first of all, I don't believe I was demonized for taking the vaccine.
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Me, and it's not me, it's me and tens of millions of Americans were demonized to take
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Because you weren't supposed to take the vaccine, I think, and this is summing up a lot in a
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short period of time, I think there was a strong argument in the initial wave of COVID, if
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you were old and sick and had never had COVID, it might have been a good idea to take the
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What if you lived with someone who was old and sick?
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The first, look, again, Chris, you got a lot of nerve not apologizing and then telling
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Apologizing for what do you want me to apologize for?
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Okay, let's just stick with Joe Rogan for mocking and smearing a person from the number
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one show at CNN and then years later admitting he was completely right about what he said.
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If I ever smeared someone aggressively and then two years later I had to admit that I come
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out and just say all the, what you said to Pat on his podcast was exactly what Joe Rogan
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If I ever did that to someone, I would apologize for that.
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I hope he was taking the human grade if he was prescribed it.
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Which one do you think Joe Rogan, who just signed his second $200 million deal, was taken?
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Professional gaslighter, professional goalpost mover.
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You think he was stealing it out of the cat bowl?
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Or do you think he had a doctor who prescribed it to him?
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So then you guys were all wrong for demonizing on it.
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You were quick to give simple accusations, demonizing half the fucking country.
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You want me to apologize when the maker of the drug says don't use it for COVID.
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When all of the research says it is not effective for COVID.
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So I should say Joe Rogan was right to say take it.
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Okay, so first of all, just to be clear, and this is essentially the truth, right?
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There were some studies that seemed to indicate that if you take ivermectin early in a COVID
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infection, there seemed to be some positive benefits.
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Then there were other studies that basically said, no, we're not seeing that.
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Now, I've heard a lot of experts, and this goes beyond my pay grade, argue that those
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Whatever it is, the reason why doctors were prescribing it to people like Joe Rogan and
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millions of other Americans, was they were like, look, it's a mixed bag with the study.
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So why not take this in your regimen along with a bunch of other things?
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I don't think they were prescribing it to be reckless.
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But here's the problem with what you guys want.
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I'm telling you, I have not spoken with anyone in preparation for coming here tonight who
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Who said you can say ivermectin works with COVID.
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And if you have long COVID or someone you know has long COVID, look up Terrain Health,
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Let me say something on this and then we can move on.
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And I think, to me, you know how we talk off camera and we have some great conversations
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And, you know, just listening to you guys right now.
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I want to sit on the sidelines and just listen to you guys speak.
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My job is to just go to the next door and then let you guys talk.
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I have such an easy job today because my wife and I, right after this, we're going to
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spend the weekend together because on our anniversary, she is June 26th, which is our daughter's
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If we don't do it this weekend, we can't do it then.
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So, I got to go see her in the next couple hours.
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But, you know, when I'm listening to you, Chris, all I caught was one thing.
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And by the way, you have to understand, it's only one thing I caught about this whole thing.
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In this world, if you apologize, they will never let it go, and they'll always come back.
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So, what that makes me think about, you either are following Trump's lead, then you agree
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with what Trump does is right, so you want to be like Trump.
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Where he walks out of the street, and they throw shit at him.
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You know, say if I go the other side, and I say I messed up, then these guys are going
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I don't know if you remember that when he came out with Spotify, you know, Danny Elect defended
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I don't know where the video was by his cold...
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And it's like, you know, we shouldn't have done that.
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You're talking about the stuff in his comedy act?
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Well, I mean, all the stuff that they put together saying, I listen to some of his stuff...
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Well, it's not about that's what they made him apologize for.
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So, you don't think that the money he was getting from that company came with them having
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leverage over what he apologized for when he did?
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I happen to know about this, and he's a good friend of mine.
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And he apologized because he felt bad about it.
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So, then if what you say, what you just said right now, you're saying the boss has made
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The boss has made you defend the vaccine and go up against the ivermectin because the
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boss is paying you made you do that, and you didn't do that.
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I wish I could give you guys the defense if CNN made me do it.
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It can't be right on the CNN side, but it's not right on the CNN side.
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No, by the way, can I just say, what Tucker says about supporting the Iraq war is,
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I literally just had a conversation with the man face-to-face a couple weeks ago about
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He said, I'm so ashamed of it, and I'm so sorry that I supported the war.
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And by the way, he was the number one guy in cable news until he left, and now he's one
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And what I'm saying is, the reason you're asking for it here is just as a simple gotcha.
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That if you apologize in this dynamic, that's all they want.
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Let me just ask this and save everybody time so we can go to the next four topics.
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Is there anything you regret when you did during that time?
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One, I would have never been on TV, even though it's the thing I can thank for most
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I think it may have been why I wound up having these extended...
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Second, third, and fourth iterations of the virus.
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Rachel Maddow has that gotcha clip on her all the time where she says,
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And I've been saying this guy is a professional goalpost mover
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Who were working in Operation Warp Speed had confused about this.
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And it was this way in the beginning that because you don't get a lot of virus,
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Clint is like in the front row of this, by the way.
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Because there was a lot of drama and pain that happened in those later iterations
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I did not do anything on purpose that I thought was wrong.
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But sometimes we do stuff, whether it's intentional or not.
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That's because I want the other person to be okay.
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There are a lot more people who, if I were to say...
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You missed the supercut where they demonized the non-vaccinated
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for, like, fucking, you know, five minutes straight.
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You said there was no change until everybody loved the vaccine with Biden.
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Early on with Operation Warp Speed, I lived it.
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She was playing stupid petty politics and saying,
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I do recommend people go and subscribe to Patrick,
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but I think you're supposed to be streaming it.
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I don't like that Joe Rogan got beat up for taking it.
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I don't think anybody was in the right to say Ivermectin
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was something you should be taking instead of the vaccine.
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he ran this crazy good business and all this stuff,
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And do it over there so you don't spill them everywhere.
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Nobody should have come after him for putting it out there
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Listen, but this is why they won't talk about it.
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be very careful when everybody says good things about you.
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You said, out of everything we've been going for
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I did not do anything that warrants an apology.
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there's going to be, I think, a real reckoning.
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If you guys would have seen the beginning of this,
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So obviously we didn't watch the beginning of it,
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when you look at the stuff that Chris Coleman was saying.
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I wasn't working on a construction site when I was 25.
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me and Top are gonna go to Planet Fitness tomorrow
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you were literally a part of the two party system
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he said I just get to be right about everything
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I don't know what's in people's hearts and minds
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i gotta with that video and try to find that house
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what's crazy about it is here you have fauci and these local uh...
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going through the hood in baltimore knocking on doors
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listen with now in with hindsight 2020 because at the time
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uh... they were putting out the video and mocking those go these dumb black people in the inner city don't know what's going on
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it should be i mean you should lose your license
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oh you might get sick but you won't even feel it
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my kid's allowed to stay up he's nine years old
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here's where it didn't become what they wanted it to be
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i know many people who got the vaccine and got covid and were very sick and gave it to other people
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the vaccine was not available for the first variant okay
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the vaccine was not available like these are all the later variants are what we're talking about here
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you had it for the second and third and then it really dropped off the first look again
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the idea that you guys enjoy the owning i think is part of the problem okay i know there's something satisfying
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enjoy it that's the least of the recompense that we get
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to get you enragement but it doesn't move the ball
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Chris man you're telling me we could play that video of the way you and all your colleagues demonize the unvaccinated
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it's only i'm saying i'm not getting vaccinated
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yes it's in response to all of you guys trying to own us for years from all of the halls of power
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hold on two things one vengeance good i hope it feels good
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if you think it's gonna stop it from happening again
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you're wrong i don't think it's vengeance either
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oh you guys revel in the fact that you're owning us
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this is the only solace that we've gotten is watching you squirm you fucking queer
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they change the definition of vaccine not for this vaccine they changed it they changed it when they started doing rna this is technically not a vaccine because it doesn't make you immune
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now here's what they got wrong they do the testing in record time right which nobody was upset with when trump was president but it gets done lots of people they have 90 they were quiet 95% they say efficacy what did that mean 95% they said that for fucking three days
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symptoms that you could recognize that may hospitalize you
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they then took that and made it into a cell of so if you take the vaccine does that mean like polio you don't get it no
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even if you get it you won't be that sick and and then here's the mistake they made
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because you don't have that much virus in you and you're not that sick you probably won't pass it on to somebody else
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and that was a big part of the cell that became less and less true over time
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and i agree with what you're saying we were in different positions you were the number one show at cnn i was doing a podcast on the internet
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and was talking to experts who were outside of the establishment the idea that there were going to be variants of this uh of this virus
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and that the vaccine would do a worse and worse job with all of the variants was the easiest thing to prevent
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the people i was talking to did see this coming
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so you were talking to people at the nih and the cdc
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which is the exact opposite of what the journalist job is to do is that you hold up here
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that was written by tom woods as a degree from harvard and columbia
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is to always start from a place of skepticism toward those in government
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i wish that i had been more aggressive about that
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and i see things that most people still don't know and haven't been reported on
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i'm one of the only people who reports on long covid
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i don't want any redemptive qualities to this dude
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you have the luxury of not worrying about what happens when you say what you say
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i work for a place that will get a phone call from someone that they care about okay
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i'm sorry guys i gotta piss so hard over your back
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and you can say it works for this three letter agency that are all you know bad people
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if i had let me tell you something this is what's really infuriating about you saying that right
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um i understand the pressures at cnn where powerful people could make a phone call and then you could be in a lot of trouble
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if i had your track record on covid i'd be out of business period
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if you didn't sell people that there were easy ways to get past covid
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and that the vaccine was a joke and everything that happened was a joke
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i think if you weren't doing these things i don't think you'd have the same platform
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no i mean it's just first off i never said the things that you just said
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me being against lockdowns against mandates against the corruption of big pharma again yes that did help
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no and the vaccine you don't think people should have taken the vaccine
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i already said uh that i do think there was a group of people early on who should have taken the vaccine
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i think old sick people who had never had covid
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really i think there was a strong i think there was a strong argument for that demographic
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by the way old sick people who had had covid probably unnecessary to take the vaccine
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your uh your likelihood of dying after you had already beat covid once plummeted way way down
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natural immunity is stronger than the vaccine as it is with almost all vaccines
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and by the way it's interesting all of the studies show that hybrid immunity which is having gotten it from the virus and also having the vaccine is the best level of immunity
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yeah but but to to say what you're saying my dad
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we would like to think that nobody would harm a young girl
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that right four years ago he took it and he got the boosters two years later he got covid and pneumonia at the same time at 80 years old
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literally do you remember that when he got covid and how bad was it
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yeah he was bad but guess what he's here with us at 82
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strong so there's a part of it i agree the fact that you know for a certain section of a community
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well listen but here's no and that's a good point pat but here's the thing in the real world what was going on
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during again during all those clips that you were showing of them demonizing the unvaccinated
01:31:11.420
this was again to put this in the timeframe here right this was after the rollout okay
01:31:16.420
so after the vaccine was made accessible for everybody in america and they really did make it very accessible for everybody
01:31:22.420
and then not enough people were getting the vaccine and then they started like pushing like employer mandates and things like that
01:31:29.420
ultimately joe biden lost at the supreme court with his osha mandate
01:31:33.420
which would have made every mid-size and big company force their employees to get vaccinated
01:31:37.420
um okay but at about this point when there's still some people being hesitant
01:31:42.420
that's when you see everybody demonizing the unvaccinated this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated
01:31:47.420
when they started rolling these things out okay so i know someone a family friend right
01:31:51.420
thought they were going to start putting this on fucking trucks
01:31:53.420
he was at uh grad school 25 something like that at the time he had they forced him to get uh double uh vaccinated
01:32:03.420
and then the next year they forced him to get boosted a month after he had had covid this is a healthy
01:32:11.420
how about the epidemic of soccer players specifically soccer players that started dropping dead on the field
01:32:17.420
with a vulnerable vulnerable person no i think if that vulnerable person got vaccinated that's enough
01:32:22.540
but there's just no scientific argument in the world why a 25 year old kid who is already double jabbed
01:32:28.700
who just had covid a month later should get a booster and yet on cnn and all the other major networks
01:32:34.780
they made it seem like that wasn't even a thing it was just you're a bonehead you're an idiot you're what's
01:32:40.300
ruining this country and the craziest thing about it was that they were blaming the unvaccinated for why you
01:32:46.620
don't have freedom anymore can we talk about the reason why all the rest of you guys can't enjoy
01:32:51.580
your freedom let's talk about myocarditis the rest of us couldn't enjoy our freedom was because of the
01:32:56.300
corrupt government who was doing this to us for no reason and man it just wouldn't but you know
01:33:00.940
that's not you know that's not true no i know it's 100 i would no that's how they did have a basis for
01:33:08.300
why they were doing it they believed that the numbers weren't coming down fast enough they believed
01:33:13.020
that if they didn't get a certain vaccination rate that it would stay that way and continue to kill
01:33:18.540
people that they didn't want to die so they pushed it now you can say i disagree with their findings
01:33:23.260
that's even more reason to have it all reviewed i'm sorry dave i don't mean it to be condescending
01:33:29.500
or insulting i don't mean it that way but you can't really have the confidence that you know all
01:33:34.460
the answers and there's no reason for anybody to tell you any difference see i don't i don't agree with
01:33:39.580
that okay number one that's what the you did and number two they have not talked about the
01:33:44.140
vaccine injuries yet they have not talked about the epidemic of myocarditis or the fibrous white
01:33:49.660
clots and cadavers at all they thought it was gonna be it's gonna wind up coming back here i'm not
01:33:54.940
saying there's gonna be any anything like what we lived through already there's no will for it
01:33:58.940
and no politician is gonna put themselves into a position where no one's gonna comply but people are
01:34:04.700
gonna get sick in your life okay and not from covid i'm saying from what happened to them a year ago
01:34:11.500
two years ago maybe it's the vaccine maybe well not me definitely from the virus maybe from the vaccine
01:34:20.860
um they're gonna get sick we are not working on therapeutic therapeutics at the rate they are not
01:34:26.220
putting the money into research they are not there are databases but they are not on it the way you would
01:34:32.220
think they'd be on it and a big reason is because of this divide they don't want to engage with a
01:34:40.060
population that they believe is just antagonistic so much so that even though and look all due respect
01:34:46.780
i don't care who you vote for the anti-vax trump supporter correlation is very strong okay but his people
01:34:56.060
don't have this conversation with you you don't have anyone even marjorie taylor green is not that
01:35:02.140
bitch who gives a shit forget about that vaccine let's start talking about that now none of them
01:35:07.180
and that's what matters to me you want to blame me fine good good for you what i'm saying is what
01:35:13.980
matters to me is that the things that need to be done are not going to happen if trump wins i don't
01:35:21.740
think it happens if biden wins i don't think it happens and that's why i think this is not a
01:35:28.220
bipartisan issue so you can be angry this is this is something entirely different than that he keeps
01:35:36.220
bringing it to like cnn versus fox republican versus democrat this is not that motherfucker is
01:35:41.980
by having a body that has to be respected put out the findings some of them will match dave's some of
01:35:48.620
them won't and that next time hear your things you can't do this forget the who we got to get our
01:35:54.620
own pandemic board back and hear the kind of people who should be on it whatever they come up with
01:35:59.580
that's the only way otherwise you know the the old quote right what happens to people who don't learn
01:36:05.020
the lessons they'll repeat them yeah well i sure they get dragged by horses i think that um there's look
01:36:13.420
the the silver lining in all of this is that um trust in corporate media is at an all-time low
01:36:21.020
trust in every other institution in this country has evaporated and the truth is that you'll never
01:36:27.100
be able to do this to us again because we simply won't let you people won't believe it next time and
01:36:32.620
um what is that what is trust shut the up cuomo what is trust high in i i'm not exactly sure what
01:36:40.700
you're asking he's saying if trust is not high in media and the government what is it high in oh
01:36:44.620
well i think well i think that um there's tremendous trust in the alternative internet media landscape
01:36:51.980
yeah absolutely what the do you know i'm not saying there shouldn't be i'm saying you could just look
01:36:57.420
at the market on this look at the numbers joe rogan gets versus the numbers cnn gets way more people
01:37:02.140
have flocked over to him than are watching cnn because they trust him look i'm i'm happy i'm happy for
01:37:07.340
joe rogan's success good for him no you're not the highest you're not bro don't lie just put it all in
01:37:12.060
one basket you've got the nightly news that was supposed to be dead 20 years ago it is dead it's
01:37:17.980
propped up by the idea corporations and government subsidies and all kinds of crazy what i'm saying
01:37:24.140
is this 40 million used to be a lot more than nine yeah but you measure that over a month oh and i get
01:37:28.780
that not one day no no cronkide used to be the you know there's no question it's stratifying it's
01:37:33.260
changing and i think that's good i i think no but i mean i think that i'm saying that there's no trust
01:37:37.660
in anything no i don't think you're right i mean i think that i mean i don't know that i have like
01:37:41.340
polling data on this but i'd imagine if i could poll the the value attainment audience there'd be
01:37:47.180
tremendously high trust in patrick bett david i'd imagine if you could poll my audience they would
01:37:52.060
be tremendously high trust uh high trust in me that's not true and look i understand kind of not
01:37:57.740
wanting to deal with that because it's uncomfortable when you were one of the main guys
01:38:01.820
in an industry as trust totally cratered in that industry but you can look at this on a poll trust
01:38:08.540
in media is that's been low in media since the vietnam war that was the turning point you can
01:38:14.300
you can look at these gallop polls it's gotten it's gotten lower no no no let's go who's this producer
01:38:22.460
baby no it's not it's uh it's it's at 23 27 right now i think it's lower than that i think
01:38:28.620
ever been like it may be the lowest but i think it's lower than that but the point is it's low in
01:38:32.860
everything it's low in everything and there's a difference between your name was synonymous with
01:38:38.540
the fall of the mainstream media empire you got your mom and dad when your parents go through a divorce
01:38:45.420
at the time one can paint a picture of the other person that you buy into and the other person doesn't
01:38:51.260
say for 15 years you think this is a bad person 15 years later you realize this person was full of
01:38:57.020
shit this person's trust is lost this person's trust is gained trust moves trust doesn't stay
01:39:03.820
and just disappear 100 percent against everybody find a graph that shows what is has increased trust
01:39:09.660
spiking trust i don't need a graph to tell me that about the black boys from uh 922 and i showed you the
01:39:16.380
one clip i want to show you the second clip i want you to see this here this is bronx it's not all
01:39:20.620
black you got dominican puerto rican a lot of that this is last week right white this guy's crushing
01:39:25.660
with the clips i want you to watch this clip real quick and we can come back to last thing because
01:39:30.380
we have 20 minutes left i do want to hit immigration because i want to show you guys one clip to get your
01:39:35.100
feedback on rob if you got the clip i texted you just play the clip i texted it to you uh a few minutes
01:39:41.740
ago i'll put a thumbs up on it i want you to play it's a tweet chicago one ray chicago one raise a
01:39:47.820
tweet go to play this clip watch this folks if president trump came here to the south ronks would you attend
01:39:52.780
the rally of course i would want to meet trump i want to shake his hand he's the only president that i
01:39:58.460
see that can ever make america greater gain he's capable of doing that i would love to go to a
01:40:03.900
rally with down trump come these are not good examples of anything these people are
01:40:09.660
fucked up we're going to show him love we're going to show him a lot of love and you know like they
01:40:13.420
do in other states we definitely need to see trump here there's number of love for donald trump here
01:40:17.420
in the south ronks north ronks the east ronks and the west ronks so tell me what we want trump to come
01:40:23.580
back please bro i would come to the rally and support trump because the bronx need a change and we need
01:40:31.900
somebody that's really going to help this community i would definitely come to a trump rally in the south
01:40:36.780
bronx i like them you do yes yes i will come to a rally if president trump was to come to the
01:40:43.420
bronx and i also would bring other people to come to and support him would joe biden get a warm reception
01:40:48.220
if he came to the bronx no he wouldn't hell no we have beat that niggas ass
01:40:57.420
obviously we all know according to biden none of these people were black
01:41:01.020
that's a good point there's a bunch of white people it's a bunch of white people in bronze
01:41:07.500
of course it is anyways okay we can transition into this next story with the uh immigration here's
01:41:12.620
some numbers that we've seen uh you've seen it i've seen it we've all seen it 2016 these are the amount
01:41:18.460
of migrant encounters at the southwest border over the years from 2016 to 2024 i'm not giving any numbers
01:41:24.780
you don't know both of you guys know these new on this number 2016 415 000. 2017 526. 2018 683 000. 2019
01:41:34.940
1.1 million 2020 comes down to 646. that was biden gets elected 1.956 million 2021 almost 2 million next
01:41:45.020
year 2022 2.766 million 2023 3.201 million 2024 year to date in the first five months
01:41:57.980
2 million 1.981 million people this could be the first four million and it's a record we broke last
01:42:05.500
year if you don't have a gun what the are you doing these are the numbers of border encounters
01:42:11.980
this is not the total number of of people who have fled into the country right these are
01:42:16.780
encounters that they have so so i want to start off the real numbers are worse i want to start
01:42:20.860
off with you what do you think is the motive for leaving the border open to allow all of these folks
01:42:28.220
to come in here he has the ability to stop it he knows it people who are involved in politics they
01:42:33.500
also know it he keeps saying he can't why do you think they're allowing the border to be wide open
01:42:39.100
it's what his left flank wants it's what that's easy it's what his left flank wants it's what his
01:42:44.540
left flank wants yeah absolutely what does that mean you dumb it's a mix of uh wanting to
01:42:51.020
gate what trump's policy was right very common one comes in to undo what the other one did the number
01:42:56.620
one reason there are two reasons that the border flow has been so big under biden one is there was
01:43:02.140
an implicit message uh to the hottest regions that come here seasonally that it would be easier
01:43:08.460
under biden than it was under trump that he would be more welcoming one uh two is when the biden
01:43:14.860
administration came in they undid the executive orders that trump had in place that motivated
01:43:21.740
home country agreements uh which was where and you can like this or not but it works we uh the united
01:43:28.700
states would pay a home country to process there we'll pay we'll set up the infrastructure we'll build
01:43:36.220
put whatever you want um but don't have it happen here that guy has no eyebrows all of those now
01:43:42.780
that number uh does not reflect something that has happened in the last few months which is
01:43:47.900
we have seen a i don't really disagree with that lots of reasons but one of them is there's more caveats
01:43:54.300
but those uh agreements back in place he made not all of them not enough remain in mexico is the one
01:44:02.780
that you hear most often that's a little bit of a token uh only it's not just mexicans though right
01:44:09.260
it's funny that's that's real 75 chinese nationalists but that wasn't what really did
01:44:15.900
those are the two reasons they're bigger now what i don't agree with is that the reason they're doing
01:44:23.260
this is so that they have this all these new voters that will feel grateful to them no did you
01:44:27.820
know what chuck schumer said today let me play this clip rob play the clip of chuck schumer at least he
01:44:31.900
ain't lying in this clip play this because he says what you like no no no no no but watch what
01:44:36.780
he says watch what he says yeah because you're saying he doesn't because i like the truth you dumb
01:44:40.860
bitch uh uh chuck uh wouldn't lie obviously rob if you're you got it okay go for it let's watch this
01:44:50.220
now more than ever we're short of workers this guy's so gay uh we have a population that is not
01:44:56.700
reproducing it on its own with the same level that it used to the only way we're going to have
01:45:02.540
a great future in america is if we welcome and embrace immigrants the dreamers and all of them
01:45:08.140
because our ultimate goal is to help the dreamers but get a path to citizenship for all 11 million or
01:45:13.660
however many undocumented there are here i just love that my favorite part of that is that he's using the
01:45:19.900
old talking points like no one's told him that we've updated this we don't say this anymore and even down to
01:45:25.580
he used the old number like 11 million is what they used to say like 15 years i know but i'm just
01:45:31.020
saying 11 million was always the estimate but that was the estimate during like obama's first term
01:45:35.660
they used to say 11 million and then you add all these numbers and you're just like hey guys how
01:45:39.900
is the number still the same they don't know the number well listen here's the thing right pat
01:45:44.140
and this was and i remember this well um because i used to i used to watch a lot of cable news uh during
01:45:50.460
obama's years and during the obama uh second term i remember specifically all over the place on cnn and
01:45:57.820
msnbc they would just talk about this openly and what they called it was the browning of america joy
01:46:03.980
reed and rachel maddow and joe biden and all types of big figures in the media and political class would
01:46:10.140
brag about this and they would they would say out loud that our plan here is that we're listen look at
01:46:17.580
the demographics this was their term demographics is destiny and the latino vote overwhelmingly supports
01:46:23.820
democrats and they're the fastest growing demographic in this country and so you do the
01:46:27.820
math what does that mean it means democratic majorities in perpetuity and they were very
01:46:32.940
open about this that hey they used to say it about mit romney when he was running they were like this is
01:46:37.340
the last dying gasp of you know the white majority in america and soon you're going to be a minority and
01:46:43.180
you can just deal with whatever we want to do at that point and then when donald trump came around
01:46:49.020
and did something that nobody else in 2016 was going to do which is he made immigration the center
01:46:55.180
of his campaign that was the he rode down that escalator and gave that first speech that this
01:47:00.700
is what we're going to do we're going to build the wall and deport all illegal immigrants and that was
01:47:05.020
that was what his coalition was built around and it took off and was wildly successful and to be fair
01:47:11.980
much more than i thought it was going to be at the time at the time i didn't think that was going
01:47:15.980
to be a rallying point the way it was uh you live first time we've ever had an issue tie for number
01:47:21.660
one with the american people the economy economy is back in number one now but immigration was right
01:47:27.340
yeah yeah and in some polls it was number most polls economy number one but immigration is always
01:47:31.340
number two and then a few had it at number one but so donald trump came down and talked about this
01:47:35.340
that really and then and only then was it that the people on msnbc and cnn decided it was racist
01:47:44.700
to bring up the browning of america and then a few people started calling it there's no great
01:47:50.380
replacement and some of those people were like some pretty hardcore right wing there is a great
01:47:55.340
replacement guys say it dave but then they were like anybody who says this is a is a neo-nazi basically
01:48:01.020
but is there a great replacement just a few years before she decided you were literally i hear joy
01:48:06.700
reed going only neo-nazis say this and i'm like bitch i remember you saying this like a few years ago
01:48:12.300
color me neo-nazi then motherfucker so then when donald trump comes down the escalator and he makes
01:48:17.260
immigration the center point point of his campaign this is what you know the entire establishment the
01:48:24.460
democratic and republican establishment and and most of the media class villainized him for
01:48:30.860
look he's a racist he called all mexicans rapists even though that's not really what he said but
01:48:35.820
whatever he called all mexicans rapists and he's this horrible racist guy and they attacked him
01:48:40.380
ruthlessly for this then he won the presidency they attacked him ruthlessly for the kids in cages even
01:48:45.980
when politico was using pictures of cages obama built they still attacked donald trump for him right
01:48:51.820
who's weaponizing the browns dave who's doing it partly because as you said 2020 was this crazy kind
01:48:58.380
of exception year so in that year immigration actually was way down because no one was allowed
01:49:02.860
to leave their house so how the hell you're going to immigrate anywhere and so it wasn't a major issue
01:49:07.180
of the 2020 campaign however in the years since joe biden came in and i think part of this is what i
01:49:12.700
think you were kind of uh alluding to in your answer is that regardless even of what the policy is
01:49:18.700
when you got the president who's on tv saying build a wall deport them all and then you got another
01:49:23.660
party who says you're a horrible racist and then that party gets in it does kind of send a signal
01:49:29.020
to the world like oh the guys who are easy on immigration are in now now on top of that there's
01:49:33.660
all types of un-funded ngos that are like sponsoring these huge waves of people coming in that's a whole
01:49:39.260
nother rabbit hole there are a lot of employers in america that's that's true too there's that true
01:49:43.660
too there's always been a big business appetite for cheap labor obviously because big business likes cheap
01:49:49.100
labor but the interesting thing that we're living through this dynamic now is that the crisis
01:49:53.580
has gotten so bad and also with some savvy political maneuvering by some republican governors
01:50:00.700
where they've sent them into blue areas and then as soon as the migrants get into blue sanctuary cities
01:50:05.980
they go now it's a crisis but now everybody essentially has recognized that this is an unsustainable
01:50:12.060
crisis and it's donald trump is in a position where he kind of wins the day on this issue because
01:50:18.300
everybody in power demonized him for taking what now seems to be a fairly common sense
01:50:23.340
possession well he definitely wins the issue um because biden spent three years allowing him
01:50:30.540
to own it as president of the united states when he could have done something um and again i i told you
01:50:37.020
guys this uh earlier even though i've been in this business a long time you guys think i'm gonna get
01:50:41.500
in trouble for streaming this like business it's an enragement business i see a lot of layers to things
01:50:47.580
very often and two things three things four things can be true at the same time is this considered fair
01:50:52.300
use we do need uh people to fill jobs in this country uh we do need um to uh have immigration that
01:51:01.180
works for this country you also have to have a southern border that's secure and processing when you
01:51:06.700
talk to the people on the southern border about what they want what they need the people who are doing
01:51:10.780
the job cbp they never start with a wall okay what they start with is rule changes on what is asylum
01:51:20.860
because economic asylum is not asylum and that's not what we're tied to under international law we
01:51:25.900
don't have to make it that and they want rule changes they want processing agents they want places to
01:51:31.580
put people because they are under tremendous emotional strain with what they have to see and
01:51:36.220
do every day more than any other peace officers we have that's what they want and they want all
01:51:41.740
the borders but it's not just a wall right you need sensors in some places you need drones you need
01:51:45.500
all this different stuff and they want to double their manpower nobody gave that to them that's not
01:51:50.460
what trump gave them why couldn't get it through congress biden didn't do you need people to come to
01:51:56.780
this country yeah i know are they taking your jobs no they're jobs that are open because we don't want to
01:52:02.060
fill in also by the way to your point donald trump for his first two years had republican house and
01:52:06.940
senate and they still and they still just look because i know we're coming to the end here and i
01:52:12.220
know that we're on immigration right now but i can't help but feel as though the thing that was really
01:52:20.140
missing from this conversation especially when it comes to the covid front is the vaccine injured
01:52:25.660
no upside the VAERS reports whether or not those numbers were underreported whether or not myocarditis
01:52:34.380
and inflammation of the heart was related to the vaccination whether or not these fibrous
01:52:40.700
white clots found in cadavers were related to the vaccinations the died suddenly epidemic i know that
01:52:48.620
a lot of those numbers are blown out of proportion but there is still a huge percentage of those numbers
01:52:54.380
that are accounted for in my opinion uneducated non-doctorial opinion uh that those numbers can be
01:53:02.780
attributed to the vaccination the the the dangers of the vaccine spike proteins things of that nature
01:53:11.100
um the alteration of women's uh menstrual cycles and just the reproductive ramifications of taking the
01:53:20.460
vaccine those things weren't talked about at all and i think that i thought that was very important
01:53:26.780
and we should have talked about that i was wrong but white fright is real okay and the response
01:53:36.940
to that is oh what's the matter you don't like having to share your power is it sorry you're gonna
01:53:42.940
have to earn something now oh that's what you're supposed to say i say but they believe this there
01:53:51.980
are a lot of white people in this country and they believe that the culture is being redesigned to
01:54:00.540
exclude them and they think their kids can't get into schools they think they won't get jobs they think
01:54:07.260
these things i don't know what they think those things i mean dei is the law of the land i mean
01:54:13.100
they're openly discriminated against that's what i'm saying i'm not saying they think it wrong yeah
01:54:16.380
yeah but you are not a lot you've never heard anybody talk about that on the media i'll just
01:54:20.860
say this okay if you were to like turn on the reason why no no i'm not paying for youtube who the
01:54:30.780
fuck is this fat retard dei or how there's such this racist portion of the country uh trump supporters
01:54:37.260
are so racist i don't know i think from what i've gauged in this crowd so far it's been a fairly trump
01:54:42.540
friendly crowd i don't know you guys you guys like donald trump okay yeah i think he's the antichrist
01:54:48.460
to be perfectly honest i see a bunch of racism i'd like him i'd see like this show but i expect my
01:54:54.140
antichrist to be charismatic over here i think i think uh uh well okay from huge insult that's all right
01:55:00.220
we'll take no i didn't say persian i didn't say persian i said iranian right i adam now you know
01:55:05.420
whatever it is we have a few syrians in the house if you turn it off if you turn off cable news turns
01:55:10.380
out this country's actually pretty cool and we're not that racist of a place to be in and if they
01:55:14.540
would stop provoking despite how racist i am on the internet i am not that terrible to people in real
01:55:19.580
life this guy has no eyebrows it's me up i don't trust him two teams that are about um the reason that
01:55:27.900
we're in the situation that we're in is that division is the best currency in politics yep
01:55:31.980
it works the best okay enragement works in media digital linear cable doesn't matter people being
01:55:38.860
angry they'll watch they'll come in everybody's got a reason to be angry about something the only thing
01:55:43.740
that can happen in a two-party system is exactly what we're living zero sum i can only win if he
01:55:52.220
lose you ain't white baby it is way easier for me to make him lose than it is for me to prove to you
01:55:58.860
that i am better it's way easier to find something with him that's wrong that's what they're doing
01:56:05.020
and it's been you used earlier um that this has been uh accelerating or evolving this this dynamic i
01:56:12.940
actually i agree with you but in reverse i think it's a devolving i think that this is a breaking down
01:56:20.060
of civility of decency of compromise cooperation you say i want to get into congress i want to
01:56:26.540
get things done i'm going to work with the other side you are a dead man in a primary especially on
01:56:31.500
the right that's what this is the only antidote is bottom up it will never happen top down well the
01:56:40.220
thing is that we're we're in a collapsing empire right now and that's our our job is to try to right
01:56:46.380
this ship but we're at we're in a late stage empire and that's what america is and this rarely
01:56:51.820
comes up in corporate media um but the usa is the most powerful empire in the history of the world
01:56:58.300
and we are the global empire right now but we're in the very late stages of that with all of the
01:57:02.780
characteristics of a late stage empire and what are those characteristics being way too expanded
01:57:07.820
militarily being very very far in debt uh and then what ultimately happens after that the culture
01:57:14.140
devolves into decadence and that's why things are dumber than they've ever been before and that's
01:57:20.140
why you know you have people whether it's uh like a gay pride parade where two guys are like slapping
01:57:26.460
their butt cheeks together and then they're going we're standing up for our rights like no you're not
01:57:31.100
you're not fighting for rights this is decadence when you see if you look back at say like william f
01:57:35.980
buckley's firing line when it would be william f buckley going at it with gore i gotta piss again i'm
01:57:40.940
sorry guys okay well just the level of intelligence there between that and like sean hannity going at
01:57:46.140
it with don lemon no offense there's been a significant fall off and i think that's what's
01:57:53.020
going on all throughout the country and what's happening is that the most powerful people are
01:57:57.500
trying to pit us against each other so that we're constantly fighting in a culture war so that we never
01:58:02.860
all get together and realize that you know you know what the left wing and the right wing of the culture
01:58:07.980
war have in common both of their dollars been destroyed by the federal reserve okay but that
01:58:16.700
never gets covered on cnn you know what i mean like that never i never see like a big segment about that
01:58:22.380
hey how come all those years having the number one cnn show not one segment about the secrecy of the
01:58:26.780
federal reserve the secrecy of the cia instead all we get from the corporate media is i don't know the
01:58:32.860
unvaccinated the trump supporter the biden supporter pitting americans against each other and all the
01:58:38.780
while blaming the american people for these problems when that's just not true most of the american
01:58:44.540
people are good people they want to take care of their family go to work tequila member of their
01:58:48.940
community try to give their kids a little bit more than they had that's what and if we had a better
01:58:53.820
media in this country they would be laser focused on the halls of power and how corrupt they are because
01:58:59.740
man is there a lot of corruption going on at the top here yeah it's not fair to put it all in the
01:59:03.580
media though no i'm not putting it all it's not all on the media it's on the politicians too
01:59:09.100
it's an echo of society what you see what you see an echo of society the media is a manipulation
01:59:15.100
device launched against society watch what what do you watch what do you watch
01:59:22.300
it's going to be over soon i promise what they like i had no idea that it was going to be what
01:59:26.860
confirms what they believe yeah but that's that's a really condescending way to look at people listen
01:59:31.580
let me just say 20 minutes so when i want to so you think you say a lot of things on your show because
01:59:35.740
you think people aren't going to like them and they're not i think i i can't if you want to ask
01:59:40.700
honestly ask this question yes there are a lot of times where i say things on my show that i know my
01:59:45.900
audience will be upset with me for there's a lot of times when i know there's positions where i could
01:59:50.700
get way more eyes on me and grow my audience but i don't you are the most amenable libertarian i have ever
01:59:56.540
talked to me no that's no i'm just an honest person man and it's totally it's cheap reposado
02:00:02.060
totally you are so in sync no no but here's that here's the problem and maybe this is the problem
02:00:08.220
maybe this is the problem with a lot of the attitude in the corporate media is that that's
02:00:11.740
what you think of the american people that you just want to listen to people that's just they're not
02:00:15.900
no no no but what you said before that was not about me and that's what i was responding to
02:00:19.980
libertarians are gay just want to listen to whatever confirms their bias i don't think that's
02:00:24.380
actually true but that's what goes well in the media that's all i'm saying no but i'm saying
02:00:28.540
i don't think that's true i disagree with you so i'm saying i don't think that's true i don't think
02:00:34.140
that joe rogan just confirms the bias of the people who listen to him and i don't think that
02:00:38.380
joe rogan has a unique platform he is a unique figure within that world yes right okay anyway listen
02:00:46.460
when i try to figure something out like i've done like um a bunch of like debates and shows about the uh
02:00:52.460
the war in gaza right now i've done like eight debates on this topic what i try to do in preparing
02:00:58.060
for that is i read the smartest people on all sides of the issue and they told you that iran was shocked
02:01:03.980
by what happened on october 7th no no no that's what the smartest people told you because i heard
02:01:08.220
you say that on the show with elika laban okay well let me just finish are we talking about the
02:01:11.420
point that i'm making and that actually do you know who said that the cia said that but anyway let me
02:01:16.300
get the cia did not say iran was in shock on october 7th yes okay anyway let me get back to what i was
02:01:21.740
saying go ahead um so so i will read benny morris who is a world-renowned historian but is very much
02:01:28.060
on the pro-israel side and then i will read john meersheimer who is a big critic of the israeli
02:01:33.260
lobby and the current war here and lots more people like that i think there are lots of americans who
02:01:38.220
are smart about this stuff and who do actually search out people who have different views than them
02:01:44.860
especially intelligent people who have different views than them and listen man i'll tell you this for
02:01:49.420
example for me if i just supported donald trump and would just go i'm on the trump train 2024 it
02:01:57.180
would i promise you grow my audience grow my bottom line make me more money i guarantee that 100
02:02:03.660
percent the reason i pick it aside outright definitely helps yes no right there's no question
02:02:07.900
the reason i don't do that is because i just don't see that the guy's learned anything from his last
02:02:14.380
administration to this one and i think we're going to have all the same problems in the next
02:02:18.300
administration that we had in the last one but for you to just say that like as if everybody who
02:02:23.260
hosts a show or if you're saying me i host a show i just tell my audience what they want to hear
02:02:28.620
that's just not true no i don't mean that that's all you do i'm saying that there is a proclivity
02:02:35.100
especially when you're a solo act doing things and you bring guests on again i've watched 19 hours
02:02:39.260
of your stuff i watched comedy i watched the skank thing i watched what you do with all this
02:02:43.260
i watched the skank thing watching legion of skanks i watched i watched preparation for this
02:02:47.980
podcast about why you're a libertarian and you don't want to pay taxes and all this and i i would
02:02:54.380
listen i pay my taxes in case anyone's i think you have to you have to that's why so look i want
02:03:01.020
everything you're saying about people having curiosity and reaching across to be true i just don't live it
02:03:08.940
as a reality now is it more true in my personal life than it is my professional life yes why because
02:03:17.500
in our regular lives we don't talk about most of the things this guy's got a perfectly groomed
02:03:23.340
on cable news or politics people don't talk about it as much they talk about the kids they talk about
02:03:28.620
their interests and their passions uh and whatever big things are happening that's what they talk about
02:03:33.900
but once you get into thunderdome it's all about division i don't know i don't know how much longer
02:03:39.740
this is going to go on but in my opinion which we did what he he's done the most damage that we expected
02:03:47.340
him to do most tv stations in the country i would have liked to have seen like i said some answer for
02:03:53.580
the damages that the vaccine did um i would have seen more i would have liked to have seen more focus on
02:04:00.780
people's loved ones who died in the hospital without being able to be consoled by their
02:04:05.900
loved ones because of the restrictions so they died alone i would have liked to have seen um any
02:04:11.660
mention of myocarditis and what role that played in the vaccinated the fibrous white clots what role
02:04:20.940
that played in the vaccinated um people losing their jobs wasn't really much discussion about having lost
02:04:28.540
your job journalists um but i think that we've kind of evolved this is the beginning of the
02:04:33.740
conversation i think culturally it's going to get a lot bigger after this um i think cuomo was a
02:04:40.220
sacrificial cow um but i i think we've run this to where we'll play it out let's finish it but i think
02:04:49.420
it's we've got the best that we're going to get from it but i see the struggle that news nation is having
02:04:54.780
by not picking sides and i see it in the ratings and i see it in the trends of stories and how they're
02:05:02.140
covered you know even this trial if you are not he's going down he's going down or this is a travesty
02:05:09.980
this is the worst you're not really getting a percentage of the audience and i think that's
02:05:15.420
part of the reality also now do i believe that you can get past i don't know about that i don't know about
02:05:19.180
that well i do know about it it's a fact i'll give you another fact i'll give you another fact
02:05:22.860
alternative fact just four years ago five years ago rogan had bernie sanders on that's the guy he
02:05:30.620
voted for right and his positions have changed tremendously from where bernie was then yes to
02:05:36.860
where he at where's that today yes how come he hasn't lost following i don't think it's about
02:05:40.300
picking size guys and i'm going to give it to you as well and then we'll wrap up because we got to
02:05:43.580
finish up as 907 we got to go to the lounge cigar lounge have a couple cigars and have somebody uh
02:05:49.580
go home and do their things i i think in regards to news nation saying well we don't want people
02:05:54.300
talking over each other you know who proved that model wrong that's uh pierce morgan he's killing
02:05:59.900
everybody on tv and podcast in the since october 7th he's the number one podcast from pierce morgan's
02:06:06.540
a queer tv show what he's doing with uh you know his program and bringing everybody in and you know
02:06:12.300
basim yosef you had him on we had him on and oh my god 38 million views he he took advantage of
02:06:17.900
this it was kind of like the morton downer jr to yeah you guys know who he is yeah yeah and then
02:06:24.140
and then also going going back to you to to uh uh uh i don't think it's about uh uh whether
02:06:33.420
i guarantee you if i go to republican i'm going to get more i guarantee if i go to this i'm going to get
02:06:37.580
more i'm staying as libertarian all this other stuff i think there's also a level of growth for you
02:06:43.420
for me for all of us what do i mean by this uh and elon musk was never republican and elon musk was
02:06:51.340
not a fan of trump and elon musk was a completely different guy okay he's got more popularity and
02:06:57.260
trust today than he's ever had before people are following him he's doing what he's doing right
02:07:01.260
he was a guy that was on the left then he started hypocrisy then he was a little bit more of a
02:07:05.740
libertarian but he realized well libertarian you're just not going to win look who you guys just elected
02:07:09.420
that guy's not going to win you know it you can like him he can be a nice guy no he's going to be
02:07:13.340
the next president of the united states so so you know so you have that part but watch what they're
02:07:19.900
doing now and elon musk and trump is it true that sunny's new vodka seltzer has zero sugar and tastes
02:07:28.300
just like sunny thinking that eight years later there could be a unity between those that's not called
02:07:33.740
they're pandering to win more i think they're sitting there saying let me just finish my thoughts i want to
02:07:38.220
listen to you guys because we want to wrap up i think that's more sitting there and saying you
02:07:42.540
got four years of biden to look at now almost four years what is you got four years of trump to look
02:07:48.700
at now if i'm sitting there and i got two people coming for a job interview this guy comes here uh so
02:07:54.940
listen i noticed the last two years you haven't worked what happened oh you know i had a sick family
02:07:59.820
member i had to take care of and it's been just that's why i've taken two years off yeah yes or or maybe
02:08:05.900
according to me having done thousands of interviews you had a job that fired you you
02:08:09.740
don't want to put on your resume because you don't want me to make the reference call
02:08:12.460
that could be the case now this other guy here i look at his resume and i'm like okay
02:08:17.260
while this guy was doing this he's done this he's done this he's done this he's one in media
02:08:20.540
he's one in business he's one over here yeah if i pick this guy versus this guy's resume when this
02:08:25.340
guy was in town there was russia ukraine and we gave a bunch of money to ukraine he became the
02:08:31.260
greatest beggar of all time zielinski and israel and hamas that one and shit and then let me see
02:08:36.780
what else is economy oh my god the middle america is getting destroyed why the max seven is making
02:08:41.660
all this money look how much billionaires these guys are making money but what i thought democrats
02:08:45.740
were for the poor and republicans were for the rich but most of the top billionaires worth over 100
02:08:49.980
billion dollars 80 of them are for the left why are they giving money to the left i'm confused but this
02:08:55.100
guy over here there used to be something we used to think about with isis isis disappeared there was no war
02:09:01.180
nothing happened with ukraine and russia nothing happened with israel and hamas in north korea russia
02:09:07.100
putin neither does he wait a minute i got these two guys and i know you guys like to say you have
02:09:12.540
the worst of two i don't think you do i think one side we have a resume that shows us results
02:09:18.860
on what happened this other side we have a resume that shows us chaos chaos complete chaos that is the
02:09:26.380
exact word that the other side uses to describe the other resume because you're leaving out
02:09:30.860
who was in there did you hear what all those black people were saying all all seven you think it's
02:09:35.980
only said i think i think that i think that if he gets more wait a minute wait i did okay how many
02:09:40.780
people show up and fighting goes out there in campaigns not as many because he's not does not
02:09:44.540
have the celebrity value that trump's not about not as many i think what's happening in america there's a
02:09:49.740
part of it if it was a republican establishment i believe it like i don't you know jim you don't
02:09:55.260
even have this bullshit that's taking telling me you got it backed up by taking advantage of the other
02:09:59.580
guy going after the guy on the left so let's just say the other guy's an anti-establishment democrat
02:10:05.260
rfk let's say rfk is the democrat right now and trump is the republican and if trump was the president
02:10:10.940
today and latest poll has bobby beating trump if trump was the president today and rfk was the
02:10:17.820
former and trump was court doj documentation everything i'm willing to tell you a lot of
02:10:24.700
republicans would have gone from here and said listen man i just don't like the way you're treating rfk
02:10:28.060
i'm supporting rfk i think there's a group of people right now as democrats and libertarians that
02:10:32.780
are saying i'm sorry this year i'm going this way i don't know i mean just to just to back up your
02:10:37.500
your broader point there i mean there were hundreds of counties i got a clip for you that
02:10:42.140
went for obama specifically for trump yeah let me let me let me say this i could never
02:10:49.740
it would be shut up every fucking how much trump makes people feel both ways you have more voters
02:10:58.140
than we've ever seen before say there's nothing that could make me vote for this guy and there's
02:11:02.940
nothing that could make me not vote for this guy we've never seen anything i think i think he's
02:11:07.340
definitely the most polarizing figure in modern american history i think he's probably less
02:11:13.020
polarizing this election than he was in the 2020 election and i think that's just because joe biden's
02:11:18.940
done such a bad job i gotta think about i i think that with these this new york thing really changed
02:11:25.660
the dynamic for me um i i see it being perceived differently i think people really believe he's a
02:11:33.660
victim even when they say he did it which again i've never heard of before i've never heard of
02:11:38.940
people saying yeah yeah he probably did it but they shouldn't have done this to him well it's
02:11:42.940
interesting in a way because i would be willing there's a point to that right even if cuomo you know
02:11:48.060
if he got beat the up right now and only right now only in this moment i don't want it to be like
02:11:52.700
a pre-arranged thing the only way i'm forgiving him and moving on to the next cocksucker fauci all these
02:11:58.860
motherfuckers is if he gets beat the up right now sean strickland comes in center stage
02:12:06.700
left i don't know the terminology overhand right who's been in congress for flops limp body out of
02:12:13.420
the chair he's still alive mounts vicious ground and pound hammer fist to the dome over and over and
02:12:20.780
over again by saying hey i'm being responsible chokes him to sleep now but zoom in with a big
02:12:27.260
on his face as he goes to sleep where a lot of people in the corporate and i go
02:12:32.700
you're forgiving easier one only you look at what was really going on but i think they kind of felt
02:12:36.860
like donald trump made things crazy like everything was kind of going along the way it was and then
02:12:42.780
here came this guy donald trump in 2016 and he made things crazy when really he was a symptom of the
02:12:48.380
problem not the cause of it and you found that out when you removed him in 2020 and put your mother
02:12:54.220
in there and it was just as crazy watch this clip here you said democrats don't vote i want you to
02:12:57.900
go away this clip rob if you got it and he does this clip and we'll wrap it up here go ahead guys watch
02:13:03.180
this clip here i voted democrat you you're puerto rican you know you're spanish living in the hood
02:13:07.100
you're supposed to vote democrat but once you start waking up to you know the biggest mistake they did
02:13:12.220
was mess with trump because i woke up a lot of people a lot of people and what they're doing now is
02:13:17.020
waking up even more people so it's you would never guess all these people here for trump you would
02:13:21.340
never see it before you couldn't even see that in 2020 you wouldn't see it but now you're seeing it
02:13:27.740
the worst thing they did is do what they do what they're doing to him it's it's you know what's funny
02:13:31.420
guys i just want to say that as you're spelling what they're doing to us in the chat and i'm clicking
02:13:37.580
on the letters you're making 2 000 you're losing you're losing basically 2 800 people are watching
02:13:44.700
this live not locally nothing and that's a democrat and there's a lot of people that i think feel that
02:13:52.860
way right now in america so anyways gang uh more than anything else for all of you guys watching out
02:13:58.780
there uh who are with us we appreciate you guys tuning in uh again a lot of times when this happens
02:14:04.460
people send me messages i'm like listen ask the source rob if you can put up their menex you can
02:14:09.180
menex them directly and they'll get back to you whatever side you agree disagree respect whatever
02:14:14.780
you want to say you get to communicate with these guys directly and they'll respond to you uh for the
02:14:19.500
audience out here that are still here with us and you as well you've done a great job i know it's late
02:14:23.820
for you but i think you've been fantastic he's 82 he wants to get some rest you will can we make some
02:14:31.340
noise for what a phenomenal job both of these gentlemen did being out here i appreciate you
02:14:36.060
guys chris thank you for doing that appreciate it
02:14:42.940
and also the entire crew here music background everything you guys did this the best one you
02:14:48.460
guys ever done shout out to kelly rob everybody else here thanks so much everybody have a good night
02:14:54.860
the future looks bright take care everybody bye bye david how about him huh oh okay all right so um
02:15:08.300
closing thoughts all that i want to say is that i would have like and it's i repeated it or i'm
02:15:14.700
repeating it i said it before fibrous white clots myocarditis inflammation of the heart things of that
02:15:20.780
nature in general the vaccine injured uh the under reporting of the vares the falsely attributing the
02:15:29.180
flu numbers to uh the covet numbers these are things that i would have liked to have seen we didn't see that
02:15:38.220
but this is more than we've gotten what for in four years in four years shut up
02:15:47.580
bitch i'm sorry this is still um playing in my ear let's exit out so uh albeit this is more than we've
02:15:57.180
gotten in in in four years five years really because this started in 2019 i consider this a win i think
02:16:06.140
that this is a very small win i think that this is going to change the conversation or resurrect the
02:16:12.860
conversation both of those things and we're pivoting we're turning a corner right now and i think that
02:16:18.220
culturally speaking um like i said resurrected we're going to be talking about this a lot more
02:16:25.660
rightfully so because we haven't said a lot or we haven't said much the news cycle turns over so quickly
02:16:34.860
that uh we're just distracted one thing leads to another and before you know it we're on to
02:16:40.700
some shit that's happening at the super bowl uh diddy pounding mercilessly the the cheeks of meek mill
02:16:49.740
something new every other day it's nice to revisit this covid thing so this was what i hope was an appetizer
02:17:03.660
i hope that more and more people are invigorated by what they've seen here
02:17:08.540
good for dave smith good for patrick bet david uh i hope they run a train a very literal train
02:17:16.700
on cuomo if that's what he meant by the cigar lounge i think that is a euphemism for viciously dicking down
02:17:28.860
cuomo the only way i would have forgiven him is if he was viciously assaulted on stage at that moment
02:17:36.220
i don't forgive cuomo i don't forgive the things that these people did i won't forget that that
02:17:43.180
they shut down the country what was the number dave smith said it at some point uh 400 000 something
02:17:51.020
like that 400 or was it or was it yeah i think it was 400 000 uh small businesses went under never to be
02:17:58.780
seen again how many people died in the hospital without the company of their loved ones how many
02:18:05.420
people died because they were put on respirators despite the information being available that
02:18:12.060
respirators were not the way to go how many people were permanently injured how many athletes died on the
02:18:19.420
field everybody knows that the uh within sort of the the soccer world there was this epidemic of people
02:18:29.660
collapsing and dying on the field or at least having cardiac events so i hope that this is the beginning of
02:18:39.340
that conversation i think that it is i i would have liked to have seen that gone a little differently
02:18:52.060
he did a good job but more should have been said and maybe like i said this is the appetizer this is
02:18:59.100
the warm-up for the rest of that conversation i certainly hope that it is maybe now is the good
02:19:03.900
time for nephilim death squad to have some of these conversations because
02:19:10.060
just like everybody else 2020 changed the trajectory of top's life and so i think that uh
02:19:27.980
right now the spirit is such that that i'd be interested in having that conversation there are
02:19:33.660
some people that we could reach out to so maybe we'll do that um i think that we're going to be
02:19:39.100
having stew peters and king bow king bow on soon and so uh maybe we'll have that conversation with them
02:19:48.540
but all in all i consider this a win lowercase w lowercase w so thank you guys for joining us
02:20:01.500
um that was fascinating i do recommend guys go and follow patrick bet david i don't want to just
02:20:07.740
fucking suck off that dude's youtube channel and and uh not have anybody go and follow him so go and
02:20:16.780
do that that's the right thing to do considering 2 800 people just watch that and uh you know
02:20:27.580
probably aren't subscribed to patrick bett david i know that i'm not so maybe i'll go and do that
02:20:32.700
afterwards thank you guys for watching uh have a good night we got a lot to think about
02:20:39.420
so don't let the conversation die go on twitter cause a problem
02:20:48.860
and uh let's see what happens next all right guys thanks for watching have a good night where's my outro
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here it is the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room it is
02:21:06.140
constantly telling us what to believe is real if you can persuade them that what they see with their
02:21:12.780
eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the
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bigger picture of what's happening and they have