Dave Smith on God, Liberty & Politics: Unreleased Throwback | Nephilim Death Squad
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1 hour and 31 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, the boys talk about how the government is trying to make us not be slaves. Also, we talk about Yeezys and how they are the new Jordans. Conspiracy theories?
Transcript
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We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
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The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely normal.
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We're holding this now. I know we're talking about how they made us not to be slaves.
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Head in the clouds. I want to wake up to a dead in the grave.
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But then it's too late. We need to be ready to raise up.
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Everybody is slaves. Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in their hands.
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Welcome back, Patreon subscribers, to an impromptu whatever this is.
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They are the patreon.com backslash NephilimDevSquad, where you guys already are and continue to enjoy the very many perks of...
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We're supposed to be here to do a read for Bohemian Grove.
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Yeah, we're going to do it live, which is going to be hard.
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I've seen videos of you try to do ad reads before.
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You left them in StreamYard, and I was watching them one time, and it was very funny.
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I think I like those maybe the most of the ones you showed me.
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She was like, so you're just becoming a nigger now?
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You're just becoming the thing that you've rallied against for as long as I have.
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It's a read for Bohemian Grove, which is coming the 20th and the 21st of June.
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It's going to be a whole bunch of stuff going on there.
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So you guys get to see what it looks like before we actually pay the money for somebody
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Did you know it's the watermelon capital of the world?
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I don't think we're going to sell all 240 seats.
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You want to keep like 10 to 15, maybe even 20 open because what we want to do is flood
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They've made you wealthy and this is how you behave.
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It's not about like I'm using like money to get this.
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I just figured out a website to get this shit for cheap.
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I can't believe you're getting it for like 20 something bucks.
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There's no way I'm paying like for these shoes.
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These shoes are really nice shoes, but they're like $175.
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If you see that for 55, how are you going to like...
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And he's like, what the fuck am I supposed to do with this?
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I forgot we're supposed to be recording this for him.
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There's actually another room with a balcony in it,
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This room here, this is like the main entrance, the lobby.
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Behind that brick wall over there, they have...
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When you buy your tickets, you'll have a QR code on your email.
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And I want to set it up so we have somebody there where you can go, scan that,
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and then you'll put your wristband on right there.
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But it's like outside like an old school movie theater.
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So what we want to do is we want to keep open like 15 to 20 seats.
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We're going to flood it with other content creators.
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But after it's all said and done, right outside the Tropic Theater there,
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there's a bunch of really dope restaurants, a bunch of places to get drinks,
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So we're going to have the, you know, all the performances inside the theater.
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And then after it's done, we're all going to pour out into the streets
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This is what it's going to look like from our view.
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Close enough to sit on, but far enough away that we don't smell you.
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Actually, maybe we should do like VIP in the front row.
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And this isn't going to get published anywhere.
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He's lost his mind since he's been doing the show with us.
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Everybody thinks he's a big racist now, which is true.
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Like I have the ability to print shirts and I was like, I should just print shirts that
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You know what we should do is we should when we when we go to Leesburg, we make that the
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You know how you walk down the street and there's newspapers inside little bins and they
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And it's just the most unhinged shit that we print in there.
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Since you're here, can I show the people in the Patreon the picture you sent me?
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But I would say that I'd be able to print it out and put it on like banners.
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Scott, you see those those black pillars right there?
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I'm going to show the people because this is the greatest picture that's ever been sent
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I got to make my thing, my screen full screen so I can see it because.
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Yeah, he wasn't able to make it to Broghamian Grove, but he did pay for like a VIP package
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So he got a cape and I just forgot to send it out for like, I don't know, months and
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And he was like, bro, you're going to send this?
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So I finally did send it and he got it and he doesn't say thanks.
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I'm already looking, but I want to see it twice.
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This is the fucking definition of luxury, by the way.
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It's fucked up, Scott, because I ran this through chat GPT, like the Ghibli, Studio Ghibli
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feature, and it gave it to me, and then I lost the picture.
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Then I tried to redo it, and it did an update, and it wouldn't let me.
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It was like, no, I was like, you can't do that.
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I was like, still a little butt cheeks, because you know you can't do it.
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Honestly, this with the fucking Bohemian Grove logo overlay.
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If we could crop it so it's narrow and make it like long, skinny banners.
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Yeah, but you could make it a little bit more narrow.
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I went to the comic book store, and they asked me, these people, I don't know what's up
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with these guys, and I was like, listen, there's a comedian that's been on the Joe Rogan
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There'll be a lot of people, and they were like, well, we'll have to look into it, and this and
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He says to me, he's like, oh, we'll have to look into it and all that, and then some
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other guy that works there goes, like, none of these people own the place, so I haven't
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Yeah, because there's a comic book place across the street, guys.
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He goes, oh, so do you guys, like, do you have, like, a brochure or anything?
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Madeline says he takes back her one, two, three.
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Ladies don't appreciate fucking, you know, art.
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I was telling Cindy, I'm going on the second ever vacation I've ever been on.
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It's almost certainly filled with, like, tortas, you know, like big.
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So, which reminds me, that whole Ryder Lee episode, it's got to move now because my son's
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birthday is the one day, and then we're going to be out on the ocean, you know, doing big
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You can come on the cruise with us because we're going with my cousin, and she's fucking
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They're really cool people, and yeah, we're going to be...
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You know, anything really, anywhere, and this thing is the size of like a skyscraper.
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We did like an NDS cruise, but it's for our wife's anniversary.
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Dude, just like today, I was at the bank trying to do this, you know, account thing.
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What, about how big fucking business we are, or about how...
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We're trying to open up a bank account because, like, it's been such a small business.
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Yo, one, two, three in the chat if you don't have a bank account.
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If your business, your business has a bank account, that's big business.
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So anyway, I go to the fucking bank to do big business, and the teller, I end up staying
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there an hour later than I needed to, an hour, because I do an hour-long podcast with this
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I just tell her, she's asking me questions like, do you think the polar shift has anything
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She told me her son is coming to her with all these, like, he's like 25 years old, and
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he's like, Hitler's the shit, and the Jews are doing everything.
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I'm like, you and your son need to be watching my show.
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Oh, see, Marnie Mack has a big business bank account, and fucking, she says it's big
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It's like, you can have a bank account for business, but it might not be, it might not
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He's the whistleblower for the EcoHealth Alliance.
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He worked with Peter Dasak, the guy that kind of lied about the COVID vaccine.
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But he's going to come on, kind of, it's interesting.
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He's coming on to talk about the explosion of these food factories, which was mentioned
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But I think this guy might have a better insight on that.
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The explosion, like meaning the literal, like blowing up and catching fire of the food factories?
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Yeah, there was, and there was a lot of talk in that episode, like there was overlay between
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COVID, between these asteroids, between the fires and the food factories, and a lot of
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So this could get really weird, really interesting.
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Clint Russell says he'd sniff Scott's ass, and we knew you would.
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Didn't you have some kind of crazy story to tell too?
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Stick around after, because we're going to be recording like 20 minutes or so on Dave
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Smith, and we're going to do it like brand new, like, welcome back, because it'll be
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a preview for when we re-air the episode we did with Dave Smith, Clint Russell, and us
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when we talked about God, and Dave got real uncomfortable.
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Yeah, he rejected the premise over and over again.
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You forgot about that fucking I rejected the premise?
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Dude, that motherfucker rejected all my premises.
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Any premise that I fucking, that I offered up to him, he was like, I reject that.
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And I was like, dude, what am I supposed to do with that?
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Maybe he deserved what he got with that fucking gay Brit, but whatever.
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Okay, so the story, it's not a crazy one, but okay, so I was having, I was laying down
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and I was having sort of, I think we talked about this.
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I think everybody does if you pay attention, but I choose to pay attention.
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So I'm laying down and I start seeing a bunch of shit behind my eyes.
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And, you know, I'm seeing like things that like objects and people in places, but it's
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not like everything's, you know, foggy and dark and it's, and I'm always like, damn,
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That was something that I learned how to do when I was homeless because, you know, it gets
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I figured out how to do this thing when I was homeless.
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I've been doing it for a long time now and it's never done anything cool.
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I've never been able to like, it feels like I'm starting to and like remote view or some
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I'm just saying that's what it always feels like.
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It feels like the beginnings of it and it never fucking goes anywhere.
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So I'm laying in bed and I'm having this happen and I start thinking, you know, you
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think to God, like I'm not saying it out loud, but I'm thinking very clearly and concisely
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about if I should do, like, if this is okay to do, show me how to do it.
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And if it's not okay to do, don't show me how to do it, right?
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And so I immediately get this notion that like, yeah, you have to learn how to disassociate.
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And I'm like, oh yeah, because that's the beginning of it, right?
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And then the next thought that I have is like binaural beats.
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It just brought it to the forefront of my mind.
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I don't know if that's God being like, yoink, but that's still not like fucking camera spirit
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I got to go back to the spirit finger days now.
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So I think about doing that and I recognize like, okay, I've got to learn to disassociate.
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A good place to learn how to disassociate is binaural beats, right?
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And then what ends up happening is we get an email and I don't read the Chronicles emails
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And it was all about disassociation by way of binaural beats.
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I didn't star it because I don't do that because I'm not organizational like that.
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Anything that fucking is starred, it's all you, dude.
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You guys, I don't fucking star things, but it was pretty new.
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It came in like less than a week ago and it should be already clicked on.
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I know that, but I read the whole thing and at the end of it, it ends with him being
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like, and it all fucking leads to like demonic interaction, poltergeist activity and aliens
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Because there's just things that you don't remember in real time, you know, but he's
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It's definitively like, yes, you can do this through this.
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Binaural beats, you know, Monroe Institute, but the Monroe Institute seems to have like
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made its own brand of binaural beats that brings you to a very specific frequency.
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But long and short of it is by the end of it, he's like, yeah.
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And if you do this, it's going to increase like abduction phenomenon.
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It's going to increase demonic and spiritual counters.
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It just felt really crazy that that was the answer.
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Like all of a sudden it just happened in like a couple of days.
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I mean, he wrote a lengthy, well-written thing.
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I don't want to do it here because I'm sure he wants it right on the show.
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My wife has a dream and it's me and her in her childhood home.
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And we're inside a bedroom and our son is calling, but she knows in the dream that he's
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It's becoming like angrier and much more aggressive and it's getting closer and it's asking her
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Now she's not saying open the door, but it's on the other side of the door.
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And, um, and I think it was knocking and it doesn't sound like our son anymore.
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It sounds like a monster and she starts reaching for the door.
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And in real life, I wake up, but like, I'm waking her up already.
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And I wake up as I'm waking her up and she wakes up because I've woken her up and she
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And I kind of wake up in the middle of the sentence.
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You're having a bad dream, which is very strange.
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Uh, just because I was like already moving before I really came to, and I woke her up
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in her dream as she was reaching for the door, but I woke her up.
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Like I'm in the dream next to her and I'm in bed next to her.
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I just know that I woke up because I had to wake her up.
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We were talking with, uh, Greg Carwood and I think we were talking about the idea of telepathy
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And I said, oh yeah, that happened to me and my wife the other day.
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And then I was going to tell the example, but we just moved on real quick.
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And the example was, uh, we were both in the shower, right?
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Uh, and I started singing the exact part of a song that she had in her head.
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Uh, that's exactly what I was singing in my head from like, like it's because it's the
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And then she says, what am I thinking right now?
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And I was like, bang, told you fucking knew it.
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There was, there was this one time in particular when, uh, me and Cindy first like got together.
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And, um, I, I forget what it was, but I, something happened and it was so significant.
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I always wanted a brother from Disney fucking banger song.
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I don't even remember which part, but it was this part.
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It might've been like, let's say it was something innocuous, like a song thing, right?
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And then because of that, we decided to like test it.
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And I remember twice in a row, like first I was like, what animal am I thinking of?
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And I was thinking of birds, but the way that I knew to give her the message was I wasn't
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Like when you, you're in the city and you walk through a bunch of pigeons and like the
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chaos of like, I was thinking of like all the minutia of birds.
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Um, and the feeling of being around them and shit.
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And then she, and I was like, whoa, she said birds.
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And then, but this time I was thinking about turtles and she fucking guessed.
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No, you just think about like, I thought of like ninja turtles and like, just like turtle
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He brings a level of like, uh, menacing violence IRL, but yes, very much the same.
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I have a lot of knives, but they're like more like beautiful decor.
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Uh, let's, let's, uh, I thought, oh, but going back to what I like, I'm not wearing
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Uh, you take them on and off like, well, yeah, because they can get in the way of things.
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You know, I like to work out while I'm at home and it's, it hurts a lot to grip things
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with fucking a bunch of goofy rings on, uh, uh, but, but with my son, isn't it interesting
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And then fucking, they used to call me turtle in school because I was a little fat, uh,
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I like, uh, I like how they call fat Mexican chicks, tortas, tortas.
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Although that's the food, but yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah.
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They call a fat Mexican chick with a wide back and no neck.
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Actually, this looks like a fucking fat Mexican bitch, right?
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They kind of look like this, like with the eyes like that, like real sad looking.
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I moved out of the, I'm not moved out of the hood yet, Jin.
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And then the next month we're doing Bohemian Grove.
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Like it's going to be a crazy May and June are fucking nuts for me.
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Um, it was using my son's likeness and it was asking to come in and that crazy.
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I just woke up cause I knew she was in distress.
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Like I woke up and like in, with an urgency at, I woke her up at the same time I woke up
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somehow, like simultaneously shaking her awake and waking up myself.
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Um, and yes, I stopped her from grabbing the, the doorknob, but, uh, I just think it's
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fascinating because, and I, I was forced to like, kind of do some, uh, what would you
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Um, like housekeeping, like internal housekeeping.
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Cause I'm like, something was allowed to use his visage or at least his likeness.
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And maybe I should be asking why that was allowed.
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Cause it's asking for permission, but it's pretending to be him.
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And it's also keeping the guys up, up until a certain point where like, eventually it does
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Cause she said it was, it sounded like a monster eventually instead of him.
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Uh, and it's like, yeah, well, you probably can't get in.
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I can't give you permission if I have no idea at all that it's not who you say it is.
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So I have some sort of knowledge of, of it while I'm consenting.
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Well, I mean, I guess it could trick you, but it just doesn't seem fair that it could trick
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Like you have to let that thing in, in its true form or fashion.
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I I'm just left with this question of like, why was it allowed to do that?
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And maybe I'm overthinking it, but it all seemed to be like the spiritual hallmarks were there.
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Like as far as the knocking on the door, it's funny that it tried to trick your wife, not
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And it used, it used her childhood home, which I think like everybody experiences some level
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And I think that's like my early childhood homes have come up in my dreams before.
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She says that one is recurring that, that place, um, from her like really early childhood.
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And I'm like, yeah, that's probably when some familiar got you a little bit way back in
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the day and has been dragging, you've been dragging it and it brings you back to some place
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So if you could like, cause nostalgia is comfort, right?
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So if it can make you feel nostalgic, it can make you feel comfortable.
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And then it uses, you know, our son, which is another added layer of deception.
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It's taking things that are close to you and leveraging them.
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Um, and so then I'm just asked to, I'm, I'm left to be like, why, why was it able to do
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Like even get his voice, let's say, which is what it seemed to have gotten for a little
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They said, uh, the real question is what are we consenting to by being here in this live chat?
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And I'll tell you what you're consenting to all this.
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I did have like a fucking, I lost a lot of sleep.
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It was a night terror and I was back in Jamaica and it was a, if I don't know if you guys
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Go, go and listen to the episode of Tower Gang.
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It was called Carnies of the Caribbean or Carnies of the Caribbean where I tell you about my
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But the same exact thing from the flight to the landing to getting to the airport.
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But this time the, the decision that me and my wife have to make, he lies to us.
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Like, like, cause we, there's supposed to be a shuttle that brings you from the airport
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And a Jamaican guy goes, no shuttle man, only cabs.
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So then like my wife's like, should we take a cab?
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Like, clearly you can tell when this guy's lying and, but she doesn't get it.
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But in my dream, it played the same way, except for, uh, he didn't say cab.
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Like the only thing we could do is, is take a train.
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So then we had to take a train and it was like, uh, if you've ever been on the A-line
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in New York city from the, like the airport, the same kind of train.
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And we're on the train and I'm just like super shady.
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I'm like, I, if we have our bags and I'm trying to protect my wife and then my wife gets
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off and I realized my phone's dropped out of my pocket and I run back.
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I go and I grab it in the thing and the door is closed.
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And now I, yeah, but like, I can't communicate with her.
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Turns out it's a bad dream because Jamaica is too fucking backwards to even have a train.
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They did have a train, but it was like, there was a huge accident, killed like 130 people
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Because imagine the kind of road work that's being done with this train.
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We're all doing backflips over the train as it comes by and shit.
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It's just fucking twerking on the tracks and shit when they're supposed to be hitting
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So that was my bad dream, but it was realistic as fuck because like the first part of it
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And the second part was like fantasy because it didn't exist, but I was like, God damn.
00:33:23.360
And I told my wife and she said, yeah, I would have probably died.
00:33:27.540
Like if I went on the train and she was stuck somewhere else, I would, I would have probably
00:33:31.920
And I was like, so let's not ever go to a place where you'd be dead if just left alone.
00:33:37.720
And she's like, okay, so now you're not going to Jamaica, right?
00:33:44.800
We're going to Mexico and I don't have any intentions of leaving the fucking, the like
00:33:52.660
I've never really been on a cruise or anything.
00:33:54.380
So they'll bring you to a resort and then there's excursions.
00:33:57.600
I'll never do an excursion in a third world country ever again.
00:34:00.480
It's not worth it because I wanted to do an excursion because I like, I just feel like
00:34:08.220
Cause I'm like, I could watch my back, but if we got to run, all right, all right, let's
00:34:17.600
fucking read this ad and we'll figure out how we're going to break this up.
00:34:24.820
Well, they said to read everything for the audience, I guess.
00:34:30.180
So we're going to read two things and they're, they're, we got to read, like, you got to
00:34:35.520
Oh, this is going to be painful for the audience.
00:34:41.600
Well, there's, there's, there's more people in here than there were for like Greg Carlwood.
00:34:49.840
Um, yeah, this isn't going to be good viewing experience.
00:34:52.120
We have to try to do a fucking, a read, like a, like a read for a commercial for fucking
00:34:58.360
It's, and this read is bad too, because it's like, this is AI and it's just like put in
00:35:15.800
Keep it timestamp so that he doesn't have to fucking do all this.
00:35:30.660
Somewhere between Area 51, Comedy Central, and a really intense episode of Ancient Aliens,
00:35:35.640
there exists a place, a gathering, a vortex of truth, paranoia, and questionable crowd
00:36:02.740
This is a conspiracy show with comedy the second day, and it's definitely not your average
00:36:08.360
This is a two-day descent into hilarious and horrifying.
00:36:12.800
June 20th and 21st, deep into the human mysticism of Leesburg, Florida, join the tribe of truth
00:36:23.540
seekers, skeptics, and absolutely unqualified experts at the Tropic.
00:36:28.220
For a weekend, you probably shouldn't tell your boss about.
00:36:32.340
Are they paying attention to, AI must be paying attention to like the Joe Rogan effect, the
00:36:43.820
I'm going to mute mine because I'm laughing during yours, and they're going to be like,
00:36:46.660
we can't fucking use this because this fucking peggot is laughing.
00:36:53.600
Entities, aliens, the occult, shadow governments, shit like that.
00:36:58.800
Dimensions we don't fully understand but talk about confidently anyway.
00:37:02.960
And then it says to put clips of UFOs flying in Florida.
00:37:07.840
A crowd chanting, the owl is not what it seems.
00:37:22.700
Narrator says again, hosted by the cosmic cowboy of consciousness himself, Shane Cashman,
00:37:28.180
who will guide you through this metaphysical minefield with grace, with the grace of a man
00:37:32.920
who stared into the abyss and politely asked it.
00:37:38.900
Hosted by the cosmic cowboy of consciousness himself, Shane Cashman, he'll guide you through
00:37:43.360
this metaphysical minefield with the grace of a man who stared into the abyss and politely
00:37:49.760
You'll experience live podcasts, wild performances, unsolicited spiritual awakenings.
00:37:56.900
And the kind of conversations that get you, and the kind of conversations that get your
00:38:05.140
You'll experience live podcasts, wild performances, and the kind of conversations that will get
00:38:10.460
your group chats, that will get your group chats flagged by the NSA.
00:38:16.640
We're flipping back to the, guys, do you see why, do you see why we hate doing this shit?
00:38:23.360
It's like, I could talk to somebody for an hour and a half and have no problems at all.
00:38:36.520
As a matter of fact, this is, this is so bad that I don't think people will come to this
00:38:41.380
No, no, they're going to, they're going to fucking make it a really great ad read.
00:38:45.920
We're going to, we're going to muscle through it.
00:38:48.800
Uh, I wrote back West featuring tower gang, uh, because suddenly is for lizards.
00:39:07.080
Obviously this fucking AI is, is all fucked up in the game.
00:39:09.620
It says tower gang, because subtle, subtlety is for lizards.
00:39:16.840
And yes, probably a guy selling crystals out of a taco box.
00:39:21.260
There's actually a store down the, down the road there that does sell crystals, but I
00:39:24.940
don't think anyone should, I don't know if you guys are going to do that.
00:39:26.980
So featuring tower gang and Nephilim death squad, there's going to be a bunch of other
00:39:32.100
We have not nailed down the list, but they will be there.
00:39:34.860
There will be a conspiracy round table, all your favorite people.
00:39:46.220
It's just a microphone, a stage, and it'll be headlined by Sam Tripoli.
00:39:50.160
Armed with truth bombs and jokes that can get him kicked out of Bohemian Grove itself.
00:39:55.180
That's the place where they sacrifice children.
00:39:57.980
It's unfiltered, uncensored, and quite possibly a psyop, but a really fun one.
00:40:06.600
So again, we're just going to keep reading and whatever Wes decides to cut, I guess he'll
00:40:16.760
Featuring more madness from tower gang, Shane Cashman, Nephilim death squad, and surprise
00:40:20.740
guests you'll either recognize from Twitter or from your astral dreams.
00:40:35.460
I mean, we did something and people remember it, but I don't know.
00:40:42.120
So if you're tired of the lies, if you crave the truth, but you like to laugh until you're
00:40:47.580
crying into your beer, then pack your tinfoil hat, grab your weirdest friends and get
00:40:56.080
So if you're tired of the lies, if you crave the truth, but you also like to laugh until
00:41:01.020
you cry in your beer, pack your tinfoil hat, grab your weirdest friends and get to Bohemian
00:41:08.060
June 20th to 21st, the tropic Leesburg, Florida.
00:41:15.280
Two nights, two nights, infinite questions, at least one guy trying to sell you DMT in the
00:41:23.960
And remember, if you don't show up, the Jews win.
00:41:34.220
There's another one, too, that had a really cool ending or something like that.
00:41:49.280
Yeah, I did it last time, too, because she's a fat bitch.
00:42:03.300
There was actually a really good line in here, but it was about like, oh, here it is.
00:42:35.340
Countless conspiracy theorists, stand-up degenerates, and at least three people who have swear
00:42:42.280
Bro, honestly, Bohemian Grove 3, two days, one portal, is a fucking banger, dude.
00:43:15.960
This is, like I said, more Patreon viewers on this than any other thing we've fucking done.
00:43:24.280
You'll be guided through the astral noise by Shane Cashman.
00:43:26.940
Part journalist, part oracle, part time traveling swamp mystic.
00:43:31.140
He's cracked open more portals than your cousin has crypto wallets.
00:43:36.380
But I liked where it was going, and then it fell off.
00:43:41.960
This is, there's like all this negative space above it.
00:43:46.300
Because I'm supposed to read the exact same thing.
00:43:48.340
I don't know why there's so much negative space.
00:43:52.740
That might have been me, actually, when my cat stepped on the keyboard.
00:43:56.660
When you threw the cat, I was like, what the fuck did you do?
00:44:00.420
I'm going to mute myself because this is going to be fun.
00:44:02.600
I'm going to try to just rip through this, dude.
00:44:09.360
I'm going to take my headphones off because, no, it doesn't matter.
00:44:40.560
I actually think I'm crying, so I can't use that.
00:44:48.280
Somewhere between area 51, Comedy Central, and a really intense episode of Ancient Aliens,
00:44:54.080
there exists a place, a gathering, a vortex of truth, paranoia, and questionable crowd control.
00:45:08.740
I imagine there's, like, cool techno music there.
00:45:13.340
This isn't your average conspiracy convention, and it's definitely not your average comedy show.
00:45:23.180
This is a two-day descent into the hilarious, the horrifying, and the...
00:45:38.520
June 20th and 21st, deep in the humid mysticism of Leesburg, Florida, join the tribe of truth seekers, skeptics,
00:45:47.140
and absolutely unqualified experts at the Tropic for a weekend you probably shouldn't tell your boss about.
00:46:04.860
Yo, there's been some times where I have to edit this myself, and I have to go through David just going...
00:46:46.860
Hosted by the cosmic cowboy of consciousness himself, Shane Cashman, who will guide you through
00:46:53.680
the metaphysical minefield with the grace of a man who has stared into the abyss and politely
00:47:05.700
You'll experience live podcasts, wild performances, unsolicited spiritual awakenings, and the kind
00:47:14.560
of conversations that get your group chats flagged by the NSA, featuring performances
00:47:20.240
from Tower Gang, Nephilim Death Squad, and then like other people will be there too.
00:47:29.380
Tower Gang, Nephilim Death Squad, and like other people too.
00:47:41.360
Somebody yells birds aren't real while chugging a beer.
00:48:27.700
There's just a microphone, a stage, and Sam Tripoli armed with truth bombs and jokes that
00:48:34.680
can get him kicked out of Bohemian Grove itself.
00:48:44.280
It's unfiltered, uncensored, and quite possibly a psyop, but a really fun one.
00:48:50.320
Also featuring more madness from Tower Gang, Shane Cashman.
00:48:54.360
Wait, it's just telling me the same fucking three people again.
00:49:09.720
They were nearly declared interdimensional threats.
00:49:17.900
So if you're tired of the lies, if you crave the truth, but also like to laugh until you're
00:49:23.120
crying into your beer, then pack your tinfoil, grab your weirdest friends, and get to Bohemian
00:49:49.820
At least one guy trying to sell you DMT in the parking lot.
00:50:00.640
And then it says at the end, and remember, if you don't show up, the Jews win.
00:50:11.040
What if you have to say, Bohemian Grove 3, two days, one portal.
00:50:44.200
All right, we're going to cut this part out of whatever this goes up on.
00:50:48.020
So, guys, if you just missed that, we just did an ad read.
00:50:50.520
If you're not a Patreon, you could have listened to that.
00:51:02.180
Welcome back to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:51:06.680
This is a throwback episode, so we're just flying right into it.
00:51:09.700
We're going to be reviewing the episode about Dave Smith that we did, like, a year ago.
00:51:15.200
The one that Phil Labonte said was, like, C-list bullshit, like, early podcasting day stuff.
00:51:22.800
I thought it was better than he could do, but it comes on the heels.
00:51:27.000
I mean, as we re-air it, it's coming on the heels of Dave's very famous debates, which
00:51:39.140
I didn't know it was Douglas K. Murray, but, yeah.
00:51:48.560
From the layman's perspective, what did you think about what you saw there?
00:51:52.480
Well, I didn't watch it, and that's mostly because, you know, it's debate.
00:51:57.660
Look, I actually hung up my appetite, whatever appetite there ever was for debate, many, many
00:52:03.660
years ago because of Joe Rogan's podcast, because he had somebody on who was talking about...
00:52:12.800
The other one was representing the carnivore diet.
00:52:14.700
And what I discovered was, despite having subjected myself to that four-hour debate, and despite having
00:52:21.380
subjected myself to previous hours' worth of content on diet and nutrition via the Joe Rogan
00:52:27.120
podcast, I still couldn't definitively say that one was the winner and one wasn't.
00:52:36.760
There was no definitive answer still after all that time invested, and I realized then
00:52:42.180
that the nature of debate, just the language that people use, it makes it so that it's not
00:52:49.320
It's about almost like tricking your opponent and getting an advantage over them and kind
00:53:01.160
There's all kinds of debate tactics that make it so that if you can see them, you realize
00:53:10.060
It almost evolves into like character assassination.
00:53:12.220
It's ultimately a popularity contest by the end of it.
00:53:19.020
I'll show you this video of this debate because it's what happened in the Joe Rogan debate.
00:53:26.720
So Douglas Murray is actually debating Douglas Murray on the veracity of using experts and
00:53:45.540
You should at least do the courtesy of visiting it.
00:53:49.720
I think it's a good idea to see stuff, particularly if you spend a career talking about something.
00:53:54.360
I have the right to talk about whatever the hell I want.
00:53:57.120
And no one's going to stop me or try to intimidate me.
00:53:59.440
And I think that if I said to somebody else the other way around, it would be equally reprehensible.
00:54:04.540
I have a journalistic rule of trying never to talk about a country, even in passing, unless I've at least been there.
00:54:09.580
If I said, shut up, you have no right to criticize anything that Douglas Murray says because...
00:54:16.460
And not only have you never been to a crossing point in either Egypt or in Israel, but you've never even been to the region.
00:54:23.780
But seriously, is that a reasonable form of argument?
00:54:31.280
We might as well pack up, go home and isolate ourselves.
00:54:34.660
If you're insisting that you're an expert of some kind, or not claiming you're an expert but still talking about it,
00:54:45.000
I mean, there are some people who've written about the...
00:54:46.720
I mean, there are people who've written about the Holocaust who didn't experience the Holocaust
00:54:50.160
and have written about it better than people who did.
00:54:52.700
But that is a different matter from spending an awfully long amount of time
00:54:59.000
talking about an issue in a region you haven't even had the courtesy to visit
00:55:11.340
This idea that the lived experience has to triumph over everything else is not always correct.
00:55:17.920
You should at least know what it is, what the territory is, what the situation is in the region.
00:55:22.060
There's an irony to this, but let's skate over the irony.
00:55:26.860
So this clip was actually juxtaposed by Tyler Yankee.
00:55:32.620
No, well, he had taken the both clips of that entire interview.
00:55:39.740
Thank God we didn't have to fucking listen to Lex Friedman.
00:55:42.320
And when he's talking to Dave Smith and the Joe Rogan experience with the red background,
00:55:46.280
obviously, his idea to Dave was that you're not allowed to speak on these things
00:55:53.680
So number one, you have to be an expert to talk about these things.
00:55:56.800
If you're not an expert, you're just a guy saying stuff or he called Dave a comedian multiple times
00:56:03.600
And then Dave didn't have the wherewithal, I suppose, to push back and be like, fuck you.
00:56:10.940
And he just kind of let him do that, which I'm like, that's like, that was just beyond the pale.
00:56:22.500
So he goes on to say like, you have to be an expert to talk about stuff.
00:56:27.660
But on this other podcast here, he's saying, you know, he's like, I resent that completely
00:56:31.720
that you have to have lived experience to talk about it.
00:56:34.000
Because the idea back then was you're talking about black issues, but you're a British guy.
00:56:45.020
It's just so again, like debate is like not it's nothing ever truthful.
00:56:54.800
And this dude, everybody's so slippery in a debate.
00:56:57.900
You know, it's like trying to grab that like really wet soap, you know, or something.
00:57:01.620
It just, it feels like that's the objective is to squirm out of your opponent's grasp over
00:57:06.380
It's a matter of like trying to pin down your opponent and accuse them of something or say
00:57:12.660
that they misrepresented something or they misunderstood something.
00:57:14.840
And their entire thing is just to scream, you know, to squirm out of that.
00:57:17.780
It feels very much like it's verbal wrestling, like actual, like Greco-Roman verbal wrestling.
00:57:26.180
And in this exchange, Dave, your wrestling partner is a gay man.
00:57:31.100
So, which makes this extraordinarily, I mean, exponentially more gay than it should have
00:57:38.680
Shouldn't it doesn't, I'm not, I don't know this guy, Douglas Murray, but I'm imagining
00:57:44.520
When he becomes like, when he gets into a public speaking sort of a situation, he's combative
00:57:51.880
But like, he just strikes me as somebody that this is his thing.
00:57:55.000
And look, you're not going to get on Rogan and have a debate if you're, if it's not your
00:57:58.320
thing, if you're not, you know, into doing or familiar with debating.
00:58:01.860
And so it strikes me as significant that if he has carved out a career or any notoriety
00:58:09.880
by way of debate, but then you look at his own opinions and they're completely in opposition
00:58:14.400
to one another to the extent where you can make him debate himself if you clip it the
00:58:18.240
right way, uh, that should tell you everything you need to know about debate is it can make
00:58:29.700
So the way this, this argument went is he came in to the debate and immediately, uh,
00:58:41.800
He called out, uh, possibly, uh, he called out Dave Smith for being, uh,
00:58:48.220
just a comedian, but talking about things that might bring up harmful issues.
00:58:52.320
So it's like, he basically his argument to Joe Rogan, he wasn't even talking to Dave.
00:58:56.620
He was talking directly to Joe and he was like, how come you give these people a platform
00:59:02.000
Like you should really think about this before you do this.
00:59:04.300
So it was a struggle session for like 30, 40 minutes.
00:59:09.440
Then it got to the point where, you know, Dave's whole point was like, Hey, uh, you know,
00:59:13.780
they're murdering kids, babies in Gaza, just to, uh, try to flush out terrorism, which
00:59:19.780
you, this guy actually admits that like, you're never going to get rid of this terrorist agency.
00:59:27.260
You're just making, honestly, you're making more of them by doing this, but what you're
00:59:33.560
So then Dave's like, okay, so is the cost 15,000 children, you know, with their limbs and
00:59:40.320
Because if it's a cost and just say yes, and then we can agree to disagree and move
00:59:46.620
So I, I reject the premise, this kind of thing.
00:59:53.960
Well, that was the thing that I noticed about Dave Smith, who I am a fan of, but I, I, I
00:59:59.220
recognize that no one has ever communicated with me in that way.
01:00:07.300
I've communicated with, it's not like my show was big, but I used to interview people
01:00:13.880
Not a huge accomplishment by any stretch, but it's like, I've got a pretty good sample
01:00:20.080
There are those who have, I'm not saying this is Dave, but there are those who have something
01:00:23.780
to hide and, and me and those people don't really mesh that well, but there are those
01:00:27.880
who are like really genuine and don't have any kind of baggage going into an interaction
01:00:33.940
Like, this is the first time I had anybody say anything to me.
01:00:37.100
Like I reject the premise to which I wanted to respond.
01:00:42.500
I'm, and I mean that seriously, like I'm stupid.
01:00:44.820
I've never had anybody say to me in conversation that they reject my premise.
01:00:49.320
I'm like, that's fucking, I feel like I just got hit with like a robot.
01:00:52.540
Like it was a really, it was actually a frustrating episode because, um, it felt a lot like I was
01:00:58.540
dealing with somebody who couldn't answer the question.
01:01:00.940
What if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
01:01:03.220
And it was like, instead of saying like, but I did have breakfast, it's them saying, I
01:01:11.440
So you guys will be listening to the episode in a couple of minutes at this will be paired
01:01:15.140
with the episode of Dave Smith and Clint Russell and us, um, right after, but I think something
01:01:23.060
And again, I don't want to like, you know, talk shit about Dave and all this, but I mean,
01:01:27.760
We, this is something that I do on tower gang where I'm making fun, but I think what happened
01:01:31.400
here with, so with Douglas Murray, Dave had a debate with him that attacked this weird
01:01:39.040
underbelly of his ideology and that's Israel in, at the very bottom of a people like,
01:01:50.800
Debate was about, you know, fucking, I don't know, war in the middle.
01:01:56.060
It was, it was, unfortunately it was about Jews.
01:02:03.140
He's specifically been given awards for his, uh, courageous outspoken rhetoric.
01:02:08.100
After October 7th, the October 7th attacks, which he was also allowed to squirm out of
01:02:14.240
with Dave, uh, Dave was like, Hey, listen, there's a, there's some evidence here that,
01:02:19.340
uh, of, of Netanyahu and the guy, uh, Ehud Barak, the guy that preceded him saying that
01:02:24.820
they actually supported the funding of Hamas in Gaza.
01:02:33.740
So now when I look at the October 7th attacks and I'm like, Oh wow, what a trap.
01:02:38.100
So a bunch of guys with towels on their heads and fucking, I think like the original thing
01:02:42.540
was that they came in with like paragliders with fans, the hand gliders with fans on their
01:02:46.720
backs and like, you know, Uzis and they shot this place up.
01:02:52.080
They flew into a rave and then they breached your border, your iron dome.
01:02:56.280
And they were there for seven hours before there was a response.
01:02:59.460
I don't know how fucking big Israel is, but I assume that you probably have like within
01:03:07.240
So seven hours, no response from a, an organization that you guys are on record recorded saying
01:03:15.460
that you support the funding of as a conspiracy theorist.
01:03:20.320
Like you wanted that to happen so that you could do this response.
01:03:23.960
But Douglas Murray rejected the premise immediately is I reject the premise.
01:03:28.860
It's, it's, it's asinine that you would say that, that, uh, Israel supported the funding
01:03:34.660
of Hamas, the terrorist agency is like, but they fucking did with his own words.
01:03:38.700
And then he'll, he even goes further to say the gaslighting in this episode was tremendous,
01:03:42.260
but even goes further to say like, uh, Oh, so you just, you'll just, uh, you know, cherry
01:03:47.080
pick like, like, so when, so when the IDF says something or when a Mossad says something,
01:03:53.480
And Dave's like, yeah, I kind of believe when they tell me, uh, you know, the things that
01:03:57.040
they're doing wrong and they kind of just let that slip.
01:04:00.320
And then I also parse through their lies, but anyway, getting off track here, what happened
01:04:05.780
was is that Dave and Doug had this debate where it's almost indefensible, especially at
01:04:13.400
this point where it, cause it's been laid bare that Israel is just kind of demonic kind
01:04:17.880
of garbage and with our, I, it wasn't even a debate with Dave.
01:04:22.560
I wanted to have a discussion, but it kind of turned a little contentious because you
01:04:27.640
It was about God and Liberty and these two things coexist.
01:04:32.940
And I know Dave, you know, his son had surgery, uh, from as a child and he saw that as like
01:04:39.840
Like he's seeing his daughter born and was like, he was like, this is a miracle.
01:04:42.480
He's like, I start, I started to believe in that there was a God period.
01:04:46.280
That was my, my question to, to Dave was, uh, in regards to the tenacity that he absorbs,
01:04:52.240
you know, political literature and, and, and, you know, works constantly to have this understanding
01:05:00.440
Um, if you have this big moment where you realize that God is real because you, you had
01:05:06.560
a child, how does that realization not take precedence?
01:05:10.220
At least in regards to your, your fascination, you know what I mean?
01:05:13.860
Like, it's like, and that's where I was just trying to, um, and then of course he's rejecting
01:05:19.180
I believe was his actual response to that, but I don't even understand the premise that
01:05:23.980
I need to, I should re-listen to the episode, but what was hard because, um, I think I kind
01:05:32.080
And then once we started wading into more like religious spiritual waters and conspiratorial
01:05:36.640
waters is when I started to, to pipe up a little bit, but I was.
01:05:40.220
Like I said, it's a weird interview for Dave because like, so he knows me from the, like
01:05:44.080
a libertarian background and I brought him on and I told him that I wanted what I wanted
01:05:49.160
He, he was, it was off the heels of the debate that he had with that guy, Andrew from.
01:05:54.140
The, the, um, the, the COVID lockdown era debate with, uh, Andrew Cuomo.
01:05:59.040
Well, no, the other, the other, Anthony Cuomo, um, wait, the other Andrew was talking
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about the, the, one of them is a CNN reporter and the other one was the governor of New York.
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No, the guy that, uh, the guy that pushed him on, um, he he's, he's on like the whatever
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And Andrew was not fair in that debate, but it was very much like a debate or an argument
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on like religious ends, sort of like, like how this coincides with Liberty.
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And then Andrew used a bunch of bait tactics that I was like, this is just like not going
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So I was like, I told Dave, I was like, I want to discuss this stuff with you.
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And he said, yeah, to come on, to discuss that.
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But I, I still think that maybe he forgot, but he's like, oh yeah, top is good.
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I'm like, I'm not fucking talking about Mises or Rothbard.
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I've been on like Josh Smith's show with this guy and we've, you know, I don't want to do
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So he brought that up a couple of times and I was like, well, that doesn't matter here.
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I'm talking about a different dead Jew and what they said.
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The, the, the thing is, is like, I recognize that some of these people are used to being
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put in a position where like motherfuckers are going to try to gotcha.
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I don't have a history of walking anybody into a trap or, or anything like that literally
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Uh, and so it's weird because all I do is set out to have a genuine interaction with somebody.
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And when I'm, when I'm meeting like debate tactics, I'm like, this is autopilot shit.
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This is a routine that you've worked at and develop.
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Um, this is how you navigate people who are trying to like, you know, catch you in some
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Not my fucking MO have trying to have a conversation about God with you.
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I really want to know, like the, I want to know how you think, like he, he just wasn't
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I was like, how do you, how does God mix with this idea of Liberty?
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Because when you look at the libertarian movement and what it is and what it's become, especially
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And it's like, because it, I, I call it, some people call it Satanism.
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Oh yeah, no, we asked you if you wanted to see that, you guys said one, two, three, which
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means yes, you've consented technically, I believe you, you typed in one, two, three.
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Um, so with, with Dave, um, and the idea of like Liberty and, or the libertarianism and
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what, like the fruit that it's, it's bore, we were asking like how these two things coincide.
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Cause as I was saying, some people call libertarianism, uh, like close to Satanism or even, yeah, close
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to Crowley, isn't it Crowley, like Crowley's, uh, ideology, do as I will.
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And it does, it does, but it also is very close to the Christian ethos is there's a thing
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There's this small linchpin where I think if you put like God right in the center of
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libertarianism, it would make a lot of sense, but they have removed it completely and thrown
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it away because they're like, Oh, no authority, no rulers, no leaders.
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It's like, okay, but there is, and you're going to have to choose one.
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So you've chosen none, which means you've chosen everything else, but God, that's the reality
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And then you see what it gets you, you get a gay dude and a cop as your presidential
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You get a bunch of people with the jean jackets and pins on, they smell, they can't brush their
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They're all autistic and they're, they're, they're largely confused.
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So the question that I was asking Dave in, in that interview, or like that, we were trying
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to get what I was trying to get at, I don't, I don't know exactly what you were trying to
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ask him, but I was like, why, if this, like this integral part is right here and you believe
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in it, why are you, why do you shy away from it so much?
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I know it's not going to be popular, but the reality is there's a bunch of young men and
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women in this movement here that are completely lost.
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He's traveled the country and seen all of the, everything that they have to offer.
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You go to the national convention and you're like, geez, man, this is pathetic and people
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But like, if you went in there and you started to like preach God, it would be like an exorcism.
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But the thing that I do like, what I like about Dave though, is that he does a thing where like,
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when I look at him and I see him talk and I see how he behaves, he is, he's exemplifying
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God in my opinion, in his actions, how he behaves with his marriage, with his children,
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I'm like, yeah, that's like, these are all of the qualities that somebody who believes
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But again, I'm not being like, go out there and preach the gospel, Dave, but I'm, I was
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just trying to have a conversation about like, I think this is important to put here.
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And I think that he is doing it the same way I told, I told Clint a long time ago.
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And I was like, well, look at when you walk around, you act as if you do believe in God,
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that there is a higher power you're put together.
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You're creating examples for like the greater good.
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Now there is, there's like a difference between acting like you believe in God and then actively
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believing in God, because I feel like you take the next love, the next step there.
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And then the next step also is like, just telling people like, yeah, no, I believe in God.
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I think that that's really important in this, in this puzzle that we're trying to put together.
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And I feel like that, that's what I was trying to express to Dave.
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We had some like communication issues with like my microphone at the time, for whatever reason,
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Fucking you out, which, which meant that they couldn't hear you when you were trying to
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Uh, the whole thing was frustrating in that way.
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Uh, I mean, I definitely hear what you're saying.
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Um, and I, it just, my question was a really simple one, which was, and I understand why
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But my question was more along the lines of like, if you've seen this thing, yeah.
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If you've seen it, why aren't you moving towards it?
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And, and I know if you, especially Dave Smith, you think about it, he comes from a comedy and
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And also, he was an atheistic, uh, Brooklyn kid that had a Jewish mother, not raised Jewish,
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but atheistic, uh, in the, in the left wing, New York city comedy crowd.
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So I get it, but Hey man, that's what I'm saying is like, I think that is, and I think that's
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Look, I'm not trying to psychoanalyze Dave Smith.
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Um, but part of me feels like that's why I ran into that weird fucking labyrinth of,
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It's not like he did this to me over and over again.
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It happened probably like a good three times, whatever.
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Um, but it was like a, it was like a stopper in the momentum of the conversation.
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And I felt as though it was a defense mechanism instead of like an actual intrigue and exploration
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It was like, for some reason, a shield was going up at the mention of it.
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And I think that that shield probably exists because of comedy, New York city, atheism,
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I, I feel like though, cause he's, he's, I know he's disgusted with Lewis and Lewis is
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like, you know, Lewis is, I don't know what he believes, but he's just not, he doesn't
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He's very happy in his little bubble and that's fine, you know, but when you step into
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the political realm and you're trying to do this, like changing of humanity kind of
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thing, you're going to have to deal with these issues.
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So like Lewis, if like, when I talk to him, I'm like, why would I ever bring that up with
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We're not talking about, we're talking about dick jokes.
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But with Dave, when you're talking about this bigger picture, then you have to mention
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And I, and I feel like the, what we were talking about this idea of not necessarily religion,
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but like spirituality, it goes hand in hand with Liberty, but it, it sweeps the leg
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So to address it, like to address your question head on would mean that he would have to then
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in some ways he would have to like, not renounce, but like step back from some of these ideas,
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these libertarian ideas, which are part of his personality.
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And he holds a lot of conviction with, which I, again, I, I think a lot of his libertarian ideas
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are, are possible within the, the realm of believing in God while maybe not like, you
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know, uh, like, like having like, you know, it's okay if we're gay, you know, and shit
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It's like, it's not, there, there has to be some sort of moral boundaries.
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It should be like, you know, there it's kind of leading with the spirit of like rebellion
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and liberation, which is understandable, rebel and liberate yourself from mankind, I suppose.
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Um, but there has to be an authority and that authority is God.
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And if you don't reel it in at the appropriate time that it just becomes, you know, what liberate
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me from all things, God's order and man's order.
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But even the man's order thing is like, I'm realizing that God does place into position,
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not only powers and principalities, but also Kings.
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Um, and so, you know, I'm not saying that that's what is happening now.
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I don't know if that's what the president is, but I know that there's a history of that
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And so, uh, maybe we should make it rebel and liberate yourself against everyone who's
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not, you know, walking in the, in the word of God.
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Like, like that should probably be a good marker is if somebody claims to be anointed
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in one way or another, well, then you observe them.
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And if they are leading with God, then maybe you're not forced to rebel against everybody.
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I used to, you know, school was really hard for me because I couldn't have fucking like
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Um, and so I've always had that like spirit of rebellion, but I recognize that that's, you
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know, the rebellion, the angels rebelling against God, or even the whole.
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And then it's like, Jesus Christ gave us the authority to tread on serpents and scorpions.
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But for some reason, don't tread on me as part of this conversation.
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And then even the, the torch, the symbol of, of libertarian values is like, well, that's
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Like the Promethean flame, the fucking, the, the Mithras or Lucifer, the light bearer
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Like all those together, they start to make something really weird.
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And then, like you said before, it's like libertarians lead with, you know, do whatever
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you want as long as you're not hurting anybody and you're not hurting children.
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The non-aggression principle is similar to, uh, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of
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And even in like Crowley and Crowleyanism, they're talking about like, you know, but
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Like don't, you know, that they don't steal their shit, like be, be ethical, but do what
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But there's a lot of other stuff with what thou wilt, you know, like you're performing
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anal sex, uh, yeah, anal sex rituals, portal magic in, in lower, in the lower East side
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of, of Manhattan, like just below a copper statue of fucking, you know, Lucifer, the rebellion
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I just don't think that this is good for the greater good of people, but this is, you know,
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But it's genius really, because it's, it's packaged as a lot of good things.
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It's only when you expand those values into the macro, because they work really well
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You know, as far as like small government and not allowing the federal government to
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do this and, you know, like everything in the micro works.
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But as soon as you enter the macro and you start talking about God, that's a, yeah, there
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JC says some libertarians believe in consenting children, right?
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Like, like when, when I was in libertarianism, that was the line was like, oh, well, there's
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like some, you know, some libertarians are like, uh, clear headed and they really know
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And other ones are talking about child consent laws.
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And it's like, yeah, certainly there's levels, but that's, you're going to get that when
01:18:25.360
And I like, again, so liberty, libertarianism, I think where it's, where it's great is the
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ability of terrible, the ability to give people their agency and free will, right?
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You know, I do like to do without will, but then it needs to come with a lot of caveats.
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It's like, but if you do this, yeah, I'm saying like, no, no, no, do what you want
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to do, but these are the repercussions of your actions.
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And as a matter of fact, if you're going to go do that gay stuff, you're not welcome
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This is like a Hans-Hermann Hoppe sort of an idea where libertarianism does work, but
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it's like, there's going to be strict boundaries and rule sets.
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Like even God, even God allowed us to do what, what we will.
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He allowed us, like, and that's the point of this whole thing, right?
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Can't force you, but it's like, if you're presenting this to people and you're telling
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like largely autistic people, a group of autistic young men and some woman that, you know, do
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Like we've seen these people, like they're going to take that to the maximum and it's not
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There's got to be moral boundaries and it's not popular with a lot of the people.
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With the, the, the lady with pink hair and the Statue of Liberty on her head.
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That's screaming about whatever it's, it's not going to be popular with her.
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It's not going to be popular with the gay snaggletooth dude that won the election.
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It's not going to be popular with the retarded cop or the guy that's walking through the forest
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If you don't go in that direction, then that right there, those things you just described
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And that's what, that's kind of what I was getting at with him.
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But it's, I think if you, if, if he were to address it exactly, it's not a, it's, there's
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no way to win that argument, but you're getting into like this moral philosophy as well.
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And then, and it's not like there would have been an answer.
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That's a conversation I would have actually liked to have had with him.
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I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the conversation, you know, um, honored that he would spend any
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Literally, literally, literally, um, it was a great conversation, even though like, cause
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So whenever they were talking, I was underneath them and I'm talking, but no one could hear
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There was a technical issue, but, uh, I just, I wish that I would have been able to
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Cause like we got stuck a bunch of times you and Dave got stuck.
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Dave, like you were like, I don't really give a fuck about Dave Smith because I'm not like,
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I understand the respect that he has, but like, whatever.
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And that's, you need that when you're talking with somebody of Dave size, you, you definitely
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And I was, it was, it was less of the, I don't give a fuck and more of, I'm genuinely
01:21:09.980
interested in what you think on this topic, but we can't get past this.
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And so my job then is to refine my question and figure out how to slip it in a different
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If you're not going to answer it because of this aspect that I've got to refine, it's
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got to go back to the drawing board and I've got to spit it back out to you in a way that
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And so if I came off as not giving a fuck, it was more like, I am in this for the love
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Um, and, and I, you know, obviously I respect people and I'm grateful for their time and
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Uh, but if I give a shit at all about Dave Smith, it's because I think his brain works well.
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And I would love to see what he thinks about this.
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If I presented to him and for whatever reason, probably for the first time in my life, certainly
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not the last, um, I was unable to package this in a way that was palatable for the person.
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So they were going to receive it, you know, chew on it and then fucking give me back something
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I'm like, I've prepared this pretty strenuously, but back to the kitchen, I'll refine it.
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It was a conversation that I would have, I think we would have gotten a lot more out
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And I, I would much rather have in private, not recorded.
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He was influential in a lot of my thought coming up as well, even though like, I guess his,
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yeah, as, as I would just got into it, he was kind of like coming up in the space as
01:22:36.680
So like very influential what I think, but I was like, I want to know what you think.
01:22:40.100
Like, I don't necessarily, I don't even listen to the show anymore.
01:22:44.400
And if it like, if that can't be recorded because it's like, you know, private position,
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But what the hell do you like, where are you at?
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So I know your heart and I know when you're like, when you're saying something, I know how
01:23:03.500
And if I would have loved to have gotten here, Dave Smith, you've been looking at politics
01:23:11.300
Where does your mind go when you find out about child sex trafficking rings that are steeped
01:23:19.060
in a cult esoteric symbolism and, and ceremony?
01:23:22.400
What does your mind think when you hear about the laptop leaks and the weird shit that they
01:23:29.500
supposedly found in Iraq and all of this strange artwork in the Podesta's homes?
01:23:37.100
But like, it's just, in my opinion, if you go there and you start having that conversation,
01:23:45.180
especially with people that you don't know and trust that intimately, you run the risk of
01:23:49.640
fucking up this other shit that you've established for yourself because you have to maintain an
01:23:56.300
If you're going to talk about politics and air of seriousness, if you're going to talk about
01:24:00.920
Because like politics, five, so the money's fake politics are gay.
01:24:06.880
Everybody's playing pretend, but you have to be very serious when you play pretend.
01:24:09.820
And what's considered unserious is talking about God and like the metaphysical realm, which
01:24:15.960
And I feel like wherever people are becoming, well, a lot more aware of it.
01:24:19.620
But you know, that's just something that I feel like is going to come as time goes by.
01:24:24.040
But I'm glad that we got to have the conversation with Dave about that in a lot of ways.
01:24:33.580
After that, he was like, nah, I'm not going to be coming back.
01:24:35.200
Phil Labonte is in his ear like, see, I told you, imagine having that conversation with
01:24:39.960
Phil Labonte, it would go nowhere, just a retard, empty, empty space.
01:24:45.660
But the conversation we have with Dave was a lot like the one that he had with Douglas
01:24:50.300
But I feel like our shit was like, we're dealing with an even more important question than
01:24:54.900
just like, just this genocide and the idea of whatever Israel is.
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And you know, the Jews, which is what they were talking about.
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We're dealing with the concept of God and the concept of free will.
01:25:06.560
And it was like, it was like very much like just butting heads.
01:25:14.700
And I, I was a little frustrated by the conversation, by the technology not working, just by how the
01:25:20.860
I think Dave was frustrated by how his conversation went with Douglas Murray, because the guy Douglas
01:25:25.500
Murray, no matter what you think about him, he's a smart dude.
01:25:33.580
The guy was doing like ad hominem attacks on him.
01:25:36.180
He was just, you know, doing like weird equations, like like referring to the experts.
01:25:41.500
It's like it was not how I want to remember Dave Smith, not from this episode, because
01:25:53.960
It was like, if I would have told him, I should have told him like, like, come here for a
01:25:58.060
debate, you know, so that way, because I but I don't want to debate you.
01:26:01.920
And Dave's not going to use those sort of tactics most of the time.
01:26:05.040
But if I think if we would have prepared him like, hey, this might be a little bit like
01:26:10.840
I'm not going to have you on like, who's Dave Smith?
01:26:16.760
Like, we're talking I want to talk about something unique.
01:26:19.260
And I just I don't think that he was prepared to address it.
01:26:24.280
This was after and this is what I was getting at the version of Dave Smith that I want to
01:26:28.400
I'm pretty sure this podcast that we did with him was after he destroyed Cuomo over the
01:26:37.960
I mean, a lot of it was shit that should have been said to Cuomo a long time ago, should
01:26:42.640
But Dave Smith was the guy who, as soon as the smoke settled, you know, I guess this
01:26:49.460
was almost a year ago as well, or a little bit over a year ago.
01:26:55.840
And obviously, you know, there needs to be more done.
01:26:57.940
But having I think it was Anthony Cuomo on stage with Chris Cuomo, Chris Cuomo.
01:27:05.240
Chris Cuomo on stage with Dave Smith debating the lockdown era and Dave Smith being like you
01:27:29.020
I mean, and then just in his own fucking face out of his own, you know, in his own words,
01:27:34.220
Chris Cuomo says exactly what he denied having said.
01:27:36.800
And it was so plain to see for anybody who was watching that.
01:27:44.840
So that's the Dave Smith that I want to remember.
01:28:00.620
But why would I want to have a conversation about something like I have you on?
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And and I just go, I agree like that's retarded.
01:28:08.140
I want to have an actual conversation with you about something that maybe we don't necessarily
01:28:16.240
I don't think it got there adequately, which is fine.
01:28:22.780
And Dave's fucking champ for spending the time with us.
01:28:25.720
So without further ado, here's the episode with Dave Smith.
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I see a lot of people are confused about what they just saw.
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No, you guys are probably wondering why we gathered you here.
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No, we have another two minutes before you can leave.
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I flipped through these every time we do a podcast.
01:29:28.980
It's very hard for whatever portion of the audience has never seen Timeline Cleanse, which I think is actually quite a few of these people.
01:29:38.300
I don't know if this will go up, but Nancy did.
01:29:40.560
So Nancy has been messaging me, and she said, oh, no, I can't play this.
01:29:50.760
She was like, by the way, she goes, I organized all the submissions, gave them titles, ratings, and if there were words that you guys don't understand, I put some definitions.
01:30:03.780
And then she just, unprompted, sends me a video of somebody getting their head cut off.
01:30:11.080
Honestly, I think Nancy is on the West Coast, but there's a couple people that I would hire if we had the chance, like if we had disposable income and it was time to hire help.
01:30:25.860
Nancy, I would like to hire Nancy Scott as well.
01:30:30.160
And I don't know what I want her to do, but I just want her around.
01:30:46.640
Every time I walk into the studio, JC just goes, oh, my God.
01:31:09.180
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
01:31:14.920
It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
01:31:19.220
You can persuade us that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.
01:31:24.480
Because they'll fit in the face of an expedition that portrays the bigger picture of what's in the world.
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Thanks be to watch the episode of Consulking Island.