00:03:15.960because these these guys are doing a cool thing too so show us uh truther con i saw that up there
00:03:22.280tell us actually if you go to truthercon.com there's actually some hidden stuff in there
00:03:27.580like there's a place where you can play game and stuff so what you hid stuff in your website for
00:03:32.620truthercon.com yeah it it's like a like flappy bird kind of but a ufo that's the only one i can
00:03:38.320give you as of right now so wait is there more than one thing hidden on truthercon.com yeah
00:03:43.660yeah our stuff is awesome so if you keep scrolling i noticed that they started messing with people
00:03:50.080on the thing like whoever that is the flatter dave flatter wait
00:03:55.760flat earth dave is gonna be there i thought he thought you uh or rather he was uh what's the
00:04:05.320guy's name um uh there's like a murderer timothy mcveigh who who is flat earth dave i thought you
00:04:10.540were having no butter dave was the guy that i that i i got a whole bunch of views uh he's the0.92
00:04:15.760the the faggist flat earther is what i call him but the fittest but uh he he calls my dad all0.93
00:04:22.700kinds of things right so somebody sent me the most brilliant photo of timothy mcveigh and him0.99
00:04:27.960and so i just did the same thing that he always does and said hey look they're the same guy man
00:04:32.720and it went viral like it legit went viral and i've never had a video like i and i was like
00:04:38.880to my wife i was like should i post this and she was like no and i was like i'm just i'm just gonna
00:04:44.540post it and see what happens and it was like really bad quality just like all his videos
00:04:48.580yeah and everybody loved it and i was so surprised well he's out there talking shit i i saw him he0.50
00:04:54.480said something about like your dad faking his his own death or something crazy like that i'm like
00:04:58.180this guy uh he's he's kind of a dude in our i don't know you want to say community whatever
00:05:04.600this is this is the same guy that says whatever right yeah he says about sam triply he just says
00:05:09.860whatever the fuck he wants to say and then triply reached out and he was like thank you for doing0.70
00:05:14.920that there were so many people that said thank you because they think he's a plant i think he's0.71
00:05:19.340a plant too he's a psyop he's like where did he come from you know he's a bizarre character he's
00:05:24.520what happened with sam reached out to him he he no he reached out to me and he was like bro that
00:05:28.940was awesome and i was like thanks man oh that's funny and so i'm glad he liked it there's so many
00:05:35.220people that i guess they're just sick of them and uh but then there's some like diehard fittest
00:05:41.340flat earther fans that like reach out and they're like how dare you i'm like well you called my dead
00:05:46.580dad alive so it's probably just him with a sock account he's just like messaging you in a sock
00:05:52.100hey he said your dad was nice to yeah he faked his death that's like he said his dead dad was
00:05:58.260alive that's the craziest thing to do with me i buried my dad and so i would like i would like
00:06:04.200i even told him i'd love to debate you on the show i would love to debate you because i could
00:06:08.100prove you wrong like i saw him dead so you can't call him alive if he's dead right i mean i don't
00:06:17.580know why these things are so hard so nobody dies in this in his universe everybody just changes
00:06:23.620into somebody else so i will say maybe i'm an asshole but i'm a big fan of like uh the whole
00:06:29.500netanyahu thing and this is i don't i don't mean to like be crass about like your dad but the
00:06:34.380netanyahu being dead in the ai videos i like that if he is alive that the general republic is saying
00:06:40.040no you're dead yeah it's very gaslighty somebody in the comments said his name the acronym for
00:06:46.900flat earth dave is fed that's so crazy jack bonson just said that his name is fed flat earth dave0.66
00:06:52.960that's crazy as hell i wonder if it really is like the dude's a plant and he's just got everybody
00:06:57.900freaked out two different guys oh two different people yeah there's no there's a flat earther
00:07:05.380and then flatter dave who's oh my mistake he's more he's more legit but i get why people get
00:07:11.160them kind of mixed up a lot of people do think he's a plant but i i don't think so in my personal
00:07:16.420opinion but you know what it is man in this community we do a lot of like pointing at each
00:07:20.960other because we're all uh you know conspiratorial in our nature uh we've we've developed quite the
00:07:27.820healthy i would say healthy it could you know in some instances become a little unhealthy
00:07:31.500uh distrust for the official narrative uh so i mean we catch a lot of strays in this in this0.60
00:07:37.540community i've been called a gender inverted freemasonic uh uh bioweapon jewish bioweapon0.82
00:07:44.500which you know maybe that's true but uh it's just you know the point is um when you have this this0.93
00:07:51.660way of thinking everybody is is a target really sucks to do it to somebody who's like you're
00:07:57.440talking about their dad it sucks to be like actually i know for a fact that guy's dead
00:08:01.400because he's my father yeah well the thing is i could sue him for slander if i really wanted to
00:08:06.240but you know i i don't i don't i don't want it to come to that you know i i really like to be a
00:08:11.780peaceful guy if i can be yeah but i i can i can get angry and you know break some arms and fingers
00:08:18.900but i just think you know i like the 90s where everything is settled by calling somebody a0.98
00:08:24.940faggot yeah you go like hey man shut up faggot and then they go no you and then that's it you go0.96
00:08:30.700all right you know like now it's now everything is crazy with the internet and but you know that1.00
00:08:35.940the reason it's crazy is because you say something that's bullshit and now all of a sudden you have
00:08:39.880thousands of people echoing those sentiments right and and that's where it becomes a problem
00:08:45.420yeah for sure could you could you tell us a little bit more about the truth of content
00:08:49.880we were on your show and you guys were breaking it down but it is a cool ass event and it's in
00:08:54.640texas right yeah dallas texas where the where the it's the first time the word conspiracy theorist
00:08:59.900was used to demonize people like us with the gfk assassination that's what i broke down last year i
00:09:05.200did a presentation about where the fatal shot came from and uh we're slowly putting out all the all
00:09:10.500the truth or con speeches but uh this year we're gonna have comedy and i asked sam tripoli if he'd
00:09:17.460be a part of it and he said i'm down and i was like oh my god like this is so cool so instead
00:09:23.200of music we decided to do comedy so it's like every truther of all kinds because you know there
00:09:29.180always used to be like the flatter conferences and i told my dad and my mom at one point in their
00:09:34.880life hey i thought it'd be cool if like you you got everybody to come because then it would be
00:09:40.360like a variety show you get a whole bunch of new eyes and they thought it was a good idea and they
00:09:44.460were thinking about doing it and then they both died and then uh later on i had the idea again
00:09:49.620and uh ended up telling somebody we won't go into that story but at jake's birthday in florida i was
00:09:56.080like i was telling my idea again and he was like we're gonna do it and then my wife was like we're
00:10:00.800gonna do it and so we decided we're gonna do it and so it's it's like a variety conspiracy mixed
00:10:07.080with comedy and uh it's awesome to come together and see fellow truth seekers and i even met a dude
00:10:14.420at the hospital that knew who me and jake were and and wanted to come to truther con and in a
00:10:19.080hospital i was like dude what the heck he was the guy that does the vent too he's a breathing so
00:10:25.280shout out michael what's up man he watches he watches y'all show too he he loves you guys
00:10:31.060oh that's weird my my uh my wife's my wife my wife uh her uncle was at a bible study and he's
00:10:40.680talking to a dentist and they were talking about podcasts yeah and he knew our podcast in jersey
00:10:45.880i was just like that's bizarre it's weird it's it's getting weird out there guys well i think
00:10:50.520that's why people know shows like these is because it's getting weird out there the weirder it gets
00:10:55.720the more people gravitate away from the official narrative and i think that it is important to have
00:11:00.220like events like these like truth or con or like bohemian grove where we get to get together it's
00:11:04.740no longer just this thing i mean think about a lot of us experience experienced being on the fringes
00:11:10.100of society for the vast majority of our lives if you had these ideas for any length of time they
00:11:17.300weren't always well received now not only did we find these communities on the internet and and we
00:11:22.680can uh make shows like these but we could actually go and get these people together in real life which
00:11:27.300is insane should be illegal i think it probably is illegal i'm pretty sure it is illegal countries
00:11:32.920in some countries but it's it's remarkable that we could throw an event you know of any size and
00:11:39.260have people come from any other place that's not in your immediate area just to come and express
00:11:43.900these ideas and hang out with you know fellow schizophrenics it's a small world really when
00:11:49.600you think about it conspiracy theorists are basically the white blood cells of society
00:11:53.400right the right room always needs a skeptic yeah and it goes back way into like the practices of
00:12:00.060the the sanhedrin they would have the 13th man principle which is you always have to have one
00:12:04.720skeptic or else group think takes over and so that's why it's such a small world and conspiracy
00:12:09.920mercy land is because there has to be one of us in every kind of social dynamic i think and and
00:12:15.120we're just all like so vocal about you know our skepticism that we uh connect and it's pretty
00:12:21.040there's so many people getting everybody into the same room is really important yeah when there are
00:12:25.280all these other people that are trying to do the same thing but they want to like beef with us but
00:12:28.800i'm not really into that it's like i'd rather have you guys there and build a bigger truther network
00:12:33.280you know what i mean like y'all promote bohemian grove and then it builds something you know and
00:12:37.760and we get all these truthers together that's amazing you know we could do that instead of
00:12:41.820fight but a lot of people would rather fight i don't know why it's a famine mentality but like
00:12:46.820yeah as i'm as i'm watching you guys i mean what you have built out i'll be honest is more fleshed
00:12:52.400out than what we have uh we've done our thing three four times now um but you guys seem like
00:12:57.960more well established with this thing doesn't mean that they can't go to texas and then come
00:13:02.040to florida later oh yeah yeah yeah it's gonna it's gonna taste different baby both of the
00:13:07.680yeah it's gonna be ice cream but different flavors i know we can promote it too you know
00:13:12.780like have everybody hey go to florida you know we'll be there yeah yeah not everybody wants to
00:13:18.340travel you know to this place or that place can be to another one or maybe they travel to all of
00:13:22.380them but um i think it's it's what you're dealing with is people that are really passionate too
00:13:27.380because just think about the mindset it's like like i said shut out fringes of society your
00:13:32.060ideas are met with constant contention for the vast majority of your life then all of a sudden
00:13:36.200like you're you know you're engaging in the open arena but you're still very passionate about these
00:13:41.640ideas so sometimes what i find is just because somebody has a difference of opinion uh you know
00:13:47.580of a conspiratorial nature than what you have uh you feel as though you've got the truth they feel
00:13:52.600as though they've got the truth there's a lot of butting heads i i do find that i i try to be easy
00:13:58.340on people like if you believe in jesus like we can get super far you know and if and especially
00:14:03.380if you don't believe in like pleiadian jesus they have the dancing tiktok nurses on their website
00:14:07.220this is crazy that's hilarious we gotta get a better we have a lot of work to do i know
00:14:10.500unbelievable uh by the way it's beautiful awesome yeah frank sinatra uh actually sung on that stage
00:14:17.540which blew my i think a homeless guy died in the bathroom of our venue that's awesome that is
00:14:23.300awesome but um you know so um as long as you're not out there um hating god or and and if you're
00:14:33.100willing to have a reasonable dialogue with me we can go pretty far still um if you're after the
00:14:38.520truth and you and you and you're not willing to uh i don't know maybe have blinders because of
00:14:42.860some preconceived notions of christianity or something and if you also uh you know you don't
00:14:49.380go jesus christ as the bible puts it not a real guy not the son of the living god who died and
00:14:56.640overcame death but instead pleiadian jesus or like christ consciousness thing that does0.55
00:15:02.120exact it it's it it exhausts me because i've already seen all that shit and a lot of people
00:15:10.060when they talk about that sort of thing they act like it's a profound insight like oh yes specific
00:15:15.660triggers like uh he he gets triggered by new age stuff because that's where he came from yeah for
00:15:20.240me i get triggered by uh christian people who aren't as hardcore as i'd like them to be because
00:15:28.000that's where i came from that makes any sense right no one likes a hypocrite well what what
00:15:34.260grinds your gears hypocrites yeah i i mean i i've grown up around missionaries and christians my
00:15:43.360whole life and so i've seen a lot of the facade that people put up i can pick up on it pretty
00:15:47.780quick because there's there's a way that christians tend to phone it in you don't want to
00:15:52.880lose the social structure you don't want to lose the hierarchy in your church and so people have
00:15:58.460unfortunately you know fallen into these traps where they put on this face and i think i think
00:16:03.900the spirit of truth you know which is the spirit of you know a christ is you know not afraid to
00:16:11.000just be real and you know i think that's what i i it grinds my gears when i feel that from other
00:16:16.760people that they're trying to present themselves as something that they're not or they're not just
00:16:21.260you know being being honest with their own struggles because i think the most powerful
00:16:25.320thing about a christian's walk is their testimony and so what is the testimony is when you talk
00:16:30.820about how you've screwed up and you've overcome and so that becomes prophetic in somebody else's
00:16:36.320life but when people whitewash themselves they're no better than the pharisees so yeah yeah yeah i0.99
00:16:43.780I've had that discussion before on the show where it's like, you know, you don't have to have like a camera and you don't have to have a studio to answer the call.0.97
00:16:53.800Right. We're all being called by name and we all have, you know, the way I look at it is is like a mission.
00:17:01.720If you are to accept it, that sort of a thing. And that doesn't mean that you have to then, like I said, get a camera, get a microphone and spread the good news.
00:17:10.500It's like you have a thing that's unique to you and it's your testimony.
00:17:15.300And everybody's had, you know, a very unique story about how they've come to Christ or how Jesus revealed himself or himself to, you know, an individual.
00:17:25.180And all you've got to do is get out and share that because your personal story will resonate with somebody out there.
00:17:30.900Somebody is going to hear that and it's going to be real close to what they experience.
00:17:34.500And you might have a story that like your set of words and the way you lay it out lands with one person and it changes them forever.
00:17:43.480And so I don't know. I've come to, you know, to be in a church for the first time in my life.
00:17:49.780And I look around and I see what the public kind of scoffs at, which is I don't want to say they're all like, you know, this idea of like whitewashed tombs or anything like that.
00:17:58.800But there is a caricature kind of going around out there, and it's somebody that goes to the 501c3 system, and they're just going through the motions, and I don't know what their walk with Christ is like, but on the surface, it doesn't look like anything, and they're not bearing any fruit, and they don't seem to be passionate about anything except for keeping the image up.
00:18:19.680And that puts a lot of people off. I sometimes think about that. The church might have to answer for a lot, because if you create an entire thing that's supposed to be oriented towards God and it ends up pushing countless people away from Christ like that, there's got to be a huge kind of spiritual ass whooping in store for you if that's what you've done.
00:18:41.520yeah yeah it's the system of church today is this pyramid scheme in a lot of ways and uh there's a
00:18:49.220great book that i read called pagan christianity by george barna and uh it's really fantastic how
00:18:55.480it explains how the first century church really the way it was formed is the multi the multicative
00:19:02.040process of church versus the additive process and so what we see now is the additive process
00:19:07.860of church where they just want to add an extension to the building. They want to build the student
00:19:13.500ministry section. And it's the system of church, I think, that lulls people to sleep. And also what
00:19:19.800it does is it keeps from equipping the people that want to be part of the body of Christ, so to speak.
00:19:25.740So the first century church, what they did is they met in homes. And when they outgrew that home,
00:19:30.600they would equip people within that group to then go and start their own group.
00:19:34.200But what we have now is we have these massive kind of cancerous organizations that are just funneling money and resources into these structures, which is, to me, counterintuitive to what the whole mission is.
00:19:49.840And so, I mean, we've just inherited, you know, there's a verse in the scriptures that says the Gentiles come from the ends of the earth saying we've inherited lies and things where there's no profit.0.51
00:19:59.540And I think that's where we're at. We've inherited a system of functioning. And so people, you know, when they go crazy, when they want to talk about topics that don't fit into the status quo, they get kicked out of these bodies because they are ruffling feathers.0.93
00:20:16.340But those are the people that I am drawn to and would rather spend time with the people that are, you know, thinking, you know, along the crazy lines. But in fact, you know, conspiracy theorists are more prophetic than they know.
00:20:30.240And, you know, it's it's I think it's ruffling the feathers that, you know, cause people to kind of hide who they truly are because they want to fit into these social dynamics.
00:20:41.000And and that's kind of the battle right now is the kind of the modern conservative Christian, you know, just system that really is leaving a lot of at least our younger generation.
00:20:55.500they're just like, ah, this is all bull. Like you guys just are going to hear the same 15 sermons
00:21:00.560spoken every, you know, Sunday. And they're not digging into the nitty gritty stuff. They're not
00:21:06.700asking or talking about the hard questions. And, you know, and I think that's, you know,
00:21:11.700some of the disappointment people have had with the Christian church over the years. But, you know,
00:21:16.880nobody's perfect. Every system has its benefits, but every system also has its, you know, its
00:21:22.460issues and it's poisons so and that that system for sure is it's dying in a way i mean although
00:21:28.360we we do go to a church a 501c3 church but that's one day a week and that's two hours of one day a
00:21:40.880of a week where you're getting scripture yeah you know or a message and people there's a place for
00:21:49.480I think some people want that and some people need that maybe as like a, you know, a baby feeder, but that's, that's dying off rapidly. Like I try my best not to criticize it anymore. Cause I used to be a really big critic of it accurately, but I'm like, man, am I hurting people more than I'm helping them? So I've stepped back, but I'm, I'm watching, uh, uh, Matt just told us Nathan Apfel will be on Tucker Carlson. And he's the guy that, uh, exposes these mega churches. He goes around.
00:22:15.860He talks about where the money is going and how this is a complete business. And it's like, hey, it's not really up to me anymore. That's happening. That's going to spiral and it's going to create something. But while that system dies, something new will be born out of it because Christianity is not going anywhere. The idea is still wonderful. It's still the truth. So I look forward to seeing what people build out of it.
00:22:41.580I think that's the thing is something has to be built out of it. Something has to emerge out of that old dying system because you're right. Christianity is not going away. As the world gets crazier, more and more people gravitate towards spirituality. The clever ones, the smart ones gravitate towards Christianity, towards Christ. I think if you're pursuing the truth, you're always going to come to Christ as long as you're earnest about pursuing the truth.
00:23:02.760Well, I kind of wanted to ask Jake because before the show we were, we were getting at
00:23:06.540like the flavor of Christianity that he's observing and it was really interesting like
00:23:10.360this messianic Christianity where you're, uh, paying attention to the feast and the laws
00:23:15.720and the timeframes and I guess like the lunar cycles and things like that.
00:23:19.260Um, where do you, do you think, you think there'll be more of a movement toward that
00:23:22.980rather than this kind of superficial, you know, uh, what do they call it?
00:23:27.320Five songs in a, uh, uh, five songs in a show.
00:23:31.320Yeah, no, absolutely. I think it's all the concept of the Bride of Christ preparing their garments to be white and spotless.
00:23:42.140And I think we've inherited a lot through the Catholic Church and their thumb on belief and interpretation of Scripture.
00:23:49.780And then even the Protestant Church, as it took a step out of the Catholic Church,
00:23:53.820that left one foot firmly planted in a lot of the traditions and theologies of the Catholic Church.
00:23:59.320And we just brought them along with us. And there's actually a growing movement. Rob Skiba would call it the Ephraim Awakening. And it's the concept that, you know, the world has, you know, all these different 40,000 plus Christian denominations.
00:24:15.440And they all are interpreting their set of beliefs and what's good for their ministering body or whatever.
00:24:23.920But the truth is the Torah or the commandments of the Almighty are the matrix code of reality.
00:24:30.040And it's not necessarily a salvation issue, which is what's kind of thrown against it of, oh, don't look into the Torah.
00:24:38.880No, what it is is it's the definition of blessings and curses.
00:24:42.080And also it's how we learn more about the father in heaven because he revealed himself through his word, right, his commandments. And, you know, as I've been practicing for 10 years, I'm kind of post-Christian in that sense that I grew up as a missionary kid in the Philippines, you know, kind of SOBAP, independent missionary.
00:25:03.700And I saw a lot of these different flavors of Christianity. And so after I kind of left that mindset, I realized that a lot of these commandments that are kind of minimized or ignored actually are really depthy and are very spiritually significant.
00:25:23.320Like some of the main things I think modern Christianity hides their eyes from are the dietary laws, the Sabbaths, and, you know, some of the other, you know, minor things like, you know, oh, helping your neighbor when their oxen is gone wandering or something, you know, bring them, you know, these things are just practical ways of loving your neighbor.
00:25:45.040And to boil it down, you know, Yeshua summarized all of the commandments with the two, right?
00:26:33.800so uh so psalm 119 is this uh acrostic poem and i believe it was a cipher left by king david
00:26:43.580uh to help uh us unlock the hebrew language and unlock what it means to have the heart of david
00:26:49.840because david was called the man after yah's own heart and and so the process of meditating
00:26:56.140on this ketubah like language this marriage covenant like language which is a love letter
00:27:01.920to the Torah, all of Psalm 119 is broken down into these 22 sections. And each section is headed
00:27:09.780by the letter. And every word that starts that section in the Hebrew is that letters. So Aleph,
00:27:16.400every word starts with Aleph. The Bet section, every sentence starts with Bet. And what's
00:27:22.220interesting is I think I can empirically make a case of what the apostles in the upper room were
00:27:29.980singing praying and praising when the holy spirit fell and uh and it's one of these sections of
00:27:36.320psalm 119 because there's a liturgical process leading up to passover where they would sing the
00:27:42.680songs of ascent and after passover uh there's also an interesting meditation period where they would
00:27:50.420every single day look at one of these hebrew letters and so if you go 22 hebrew letters uh
00:27:56.340It's a 50-day count, so you restart, and you do 22 more. That's 44.
00:28:01.120And then what do you do? You restart one more time, and so the section of Psalm 119 you would be meditating on during Shavuot would be the Vav, the letter Vav.
00:28:11.280And what's fascinating about the letter Vav is in rabbinic, yeah, we can look at this if you compare what is talked about in this Vav portion with the sermon that Peter gives.
00:28:24.960there's some amazing parallels but the vav is called the heart of the torah a lot of people
00:28:31.160don't know this it's um in rabbinic uh scribal practices when they would write out the torah
00:28:36.880very carefully if you go equal distance from the first letter and the last letter and go
00:28:41.660all the way to the center the very center of the torah is the letter vav and they actually make a
00:28:47.180really big vav in the torah scrolls to denote the heart of the torah and anyways when you look at
00:28:54.620peter's sermon right what is the vav the vav in hebrew is the conjoining of heavenly and earthly
00:29:00.800things and what's fascinating about that is what is pentecost it's when the spirit of god fell on
00:29:06.280the apostles and they started you know you know speaking in other tongues and prophesying and
00:29:11.460um what's interesting is the vav the letter vav in the the pictographic hebrew is the piercing
00:29:17.500nail and the piercing nail is also synonymous with the uh consummation of a marriage to get
00:29:24.140explicit with. It's the piercing nail, if you know what I mean. And that's what Pentecost was
00:29:30.300also in the days of Moses, is it was when that marriage happened between Israel and the Almighty,
00:29:36.480and he gave them his Torah as this kind of marriage contract. And so in the New Testament
00:29:43.120sense, this Vav, this portion of the Vav is really interesting. But long story short,
00:29:49.200The Torah is the matrix code of reality.0.53
00:30:15.560and we've got to figure this stuff out,
00:30:17.360Because more than any generation, we have the ability to read the scriptures and see the different languages.
00:30:26.360I mean, you used to have to know like five or six languages and go to an old dusty library to find some of the stuff that we all have access to in an amazing way.
00:30:35.820And that's what the day and age we live in is knowledge is increased.
00:30:40.540And I think it's because the Most High wants the people of the earth to prepare themselves, to get their garments spotless and unblemished.
00:30:51.680Because when a perfect creator, and in his mercy, I think he kind of withdrew from mankind to where in our ignorance, in our sin, we weren't just evaporated and destroyed because we're these sinful beings.
00:31:06.360But as you know, you know, he's coming closer to the earth and he's coming closer to mankind and we want his spirit to be drawn closer to us.
00:31:14.860Well, that requires a holier environment because as he comes near, that's when you see all the plagues of revelation kick off because, you know, in the presence of a holy God, you know, what we deserve, we get, you know, because an unclean thing can't dwell in his presence.
00:31:31.360And so, you know, I think he's been merciful for us for a very long time in our ignorance, in our different denominations, in our different cultures.
00:31:40.260But as he draws close, it's like he's given us the tools that we can use to look at porn all day or we can, you know, use to learn about who he is and learn the truth about all these things that we used to have to go to a man who spoke Latin.
00:31:54.980We used to have to go to the pastor in terms of, oh, you're the one who went to seminary.
00:31:59.340But now the baton's been handed to the lay people, and it's up to us to do our homework. And I think that's why the awakening, the Ephraim awakenings happening, which is also synonymous to the promise of Abraham coming to fulfillment.0.57
00:32:15.300right so the jews will say that when but the sons of ephraim come back the the name of the messiah0.57
00:32:22.520will be on their lips oh yeah and jeremiah knows a lot about the jews in terms of the the secular
00:32:28.280nation state and you know how there's a lot of language i'll talk about these later but yeah
00:32:35.020i can i can keep going on and on guys but if you know if you want me to something i got a question
00:32:40.700And I guess I have two questions, one being, what do you make of Peter's dream about the clean and the unclean animals?
00:32:49.200Like, where do you put that with the Old Testament and then you have like a New Testament contradicting it in a way?
00:32:56.900Yeah, so the concept of the clean and unclean foods is a big sticking point for modern Christians.
00:33:02.720And I will say that a Christian is more likely to listen to a doctor that says stop eating pork than they will God himself, right?
00:33:09.880Which is, it's funny, but Peter's vision, right, he saw three sheets come down with unclean animals.0.98
00:33:17.200And throughout the scriptures, these unclean animals have always been associated with the Gentile nations, these unclean people.0.95
00:33:25.220And so what happens is three sheets come down, rise, Peter, kill and eat.1.00
00:33:29.720And then what happens, it says specifically that Peter was mulling over the meaning of the vision.
00:33:36.180So right there, Peter himself didn't interpret it how most Christian pastors interpret it today.0.86
00:33:41.780And so as he's mulling over the meaning of the vision, behold, three Gentiles sent from Cornelius show up at his door.0.83
00:33:53.120And it says later on that Peter interprets his own vision to mean that the Gentiles, the people of the nations, should not be viewed as unclean.
00:34:05.040that they too could be grafted into the covenant. And so what we do is instead of just listening to
00:34:11.780Peter's own interpretation, we superimpose the clean and unclean interpretation to justify our
00:34:17.740bellies. And if you think about it, what was the first sin in the Garden of Eden, right? It was
00:34:23.120about what to eat and what not to eat. And it's very significant because you have portions in
00:34:28.320like isaiah 66 that say in the coming of the the the day of the lord time period that people who
00:34:35.300are eating swine's flesh are going to be like even you know destroyed you know and i'm not
00:34:40.200trying to be hard on anybody because you know i grew up in the philippines eating all manner of0.96
00:34:44.160unclean you know terrible things you know eating you know pigs and you know i we'd eat all kinds
00:34:50.220of gross stuff but um you know i'm not being hard on anybody but you know it's definitely
00:34:55.580you know it's so it boils down to what is food and what's not food and the concept that
00:35:03.700unclean animals were never intended to be for man's diet and and our creator in heaven he is
00:35:11.520the divine physician and so when he details what to eat and what not to eat it's because he loves
00:35:16.760us and so if we were to just look at it from a health mindset like a health perspective of oh
00:35:22.640this is the kind of food that carries parasites and has proteins that aren't digestible by the
00:35:27.480human body and and all the kind of backing to like what would be a doctor's excuse for not
00:35:33.900eating it then why are we so surprised that there's a blessing and a curse hidden in those
00:35:39.200commandments oh so very carefully jake yeah well america is a big bacon country right i mean bacon
00:35:47.400is like it's like almost meme culture in america i'm not one to be like i moved from new york to
00:35:52.420florida and people like well the pizza i'm like fuck that like you know it's that's crazy to not
00:35:57.600do something because of food people are motivated by it but there is something there with the the
00:36:02.600pigs that you're talking about the pork the trichinosis that's uh readily available if it's
00:36:07.360undercooked but i actually stopped before i ever you know understood and i'd like to get into this
00:36:12.580conversation i think it's important to lay out like what is unclean but before we even get there
00:36:16.580i stopped eating pork because for some reason dude like back in the day this is maybe could
00:36:21.800have been six seven years ago now i got a package of pork chops from the supermarket and i'm telling
00:36:27.360you i made the mistake three four times in a row before i finally stopped every time no matter how
00:36:32.740i cooked them they smelled like urine and and dirty farm well i mean i was like dude like and
00:36:39.140i to me if you if you hunt a male hog and there's too much testosterone in it generally what you
00:36:44.420got to do is like castrate it let it wild and then come back to it later and kill it if you're lucky
00:36:49.800to find it again but yeah you don't want to eat that the meat's disgusting but you mentioned
00:36:54.060parasites that's something that we've been talking about for quite a while on this show
00:36:57.100um one of our first sponsors was uh paris a parasite cleanse company yeah and the owner of
00:37:02.580that company shout out to purge store shout out to purge store yeah the owner of that company was
00:37:07.560like i think that there's a relationship between parasites and demons yeah honestly the way that
00:37:12.560i've come to look at it is like they seem like a biological conduit for spiritual energy like
00:37:16.300negative spiritual energy because even in these like really strange scenarios where you see like
00:37:21.040a witch doctor in some sort of uh you know a tribe of sorts and they're going through the
00:37:25.500whole procedure and they're you know cracking eggs they're always involves an egg for some0.93
00:37:29.100reason their ceremony but what ends up being purged out of the individual looks to me like a
00:37:33.880like a bundle of hair or like black worms and everything you know on a parasitic level is
00:37:40.220is almost always some sort of a, a worm. And, you know, it, it shows up over and over again,
00:37:46.160people that are, it doesn't burn. Yeah. The worm that never burns, but there are people who are,
00:37:50.120uh, not looking at it from a spiritual vantage point. They're just looking at it purely from
00:37:54.200a biological standpoint. And there's so much data to back up that parasites, not only they're
00:38:00.580affecting your gut biome, they call your gut, the second brain, right? So it has a lot to do with
00:38:04.800your mood and things of that nature. But also that they can affect your thoughts in some way,
00:38:10.500shape or form. Well, yeah. If you have these parasites in your gut, your brain is going to
00:38:15.680be cloudy. You're not going to make the same decisions that you would otherwise on a cleaner
00:38:19.280diet. But it also gets weirder when you look at the idea of like the praying mantis has a black0.92
00:38:23.580worm parasite. I forget. I think it's called a horse worm. And this thing is an aquatic worm.
00:38:28.060It wants to be birthed in the water. And so what it'll actually do is drive the insect that is
00:38:34.440its host into the water that's horrifying uh it's what it looks like image of a of a parasite up
00:38:40.360close looks a lot like a demon um but it'll drive the host into the water to commit suicide which
00:38:46.340is fascinating because if you just think about the narrative that demonic oppression runs cats
00:38:51.940do the same thing they don't do the same thing cats would never do that yeah but what they do
00:38:57.360is they will drive you to to basically this this extent where suicide is the end game right if we're
00:39:04.380talking about the spirits that are um pushing you towards depression and anger and resentment and
00:39:09.880and feelings of worthlessness and and all these different things those all lead to one final end
00:39:15.240game and um it's kind of the same thing for the praying mantis with the horseworm so i mean i
00:39:21.420don't know do you guys think we're crazy uh for for drawing that connection it's fine if you do
00:39:25.120no i i stopped eating pig because of they they would use pigs to like uh because they're so
00:39:32.760close to humans they would use it for police dogs and i always thought that that was weird i felt
00:39:37.080like i was eating a person so they would they they buried the carcasses and the police dogs
00:39:41.660find find it but they're the closest i i believe i could be wrong jake am i right yeah some people
00:39:49.260believe that there was uh there's some crossbreeding with swine and mankind and when i found that out
00:39:56.240you know people yeah i mean it's definitely the goy you know the goyslop food topic the things
00:40:03.320that we eat causing us to uh have sicknesses and ailments feeding us into these medical systems
00:40:10.080there's a reason that it's the most prevalent cheap food in the western world is because
00:40:14.880they want us self-cursing and i mean the most high left uh instructions like anything that
00:40:21.120doesn't chew the cud or doesn't have a split hoof you don't eat it and it's because i i think
00:40:26.920he was warning his people like look these are the things that carry parasites these are the things
00:40:31.380that you shouldn't eat and that if you do uh you're going to be self-cursing and so when we
00:40:37.020talk about the synagogue of satan topic and and the people that rule this world they want us to
00:40:42.680have a mindset and a theology that justifies self-cursing because they want us you know
00:40:49.160inviting the demons in they want they want you to come into agreement with a lot of they do that
00:40:53.040with our i just had some penny the other day too and oh dude it's so good but i'm not one to
00:40:57.620typically eat much pork yeah i don't really but it was because like you know a spanish household
00:41:01.360if they make it you know that yeah my wife labors over you know pork roast your wife that needs to0.99
00:41:06.860my house and it was good and you enjoyed it and everybody ate it and now we're all going to hell
00:41:11.520um something interesting here uh xeno transplantation uh so scientists they are
00:41:17.520working on ways to modify the dna of pigs to accommodate organs that would be successfully
00:41:23.500transplanted into human beings for organ transplant it's strange same with cows like
00:41:28.020that's what yeah among the alien phenomenon they use the cow the innards of the cow and it's
00:41:33.120supposed that they're using that in some sort of breeding program but there there is one here
00:41:37.440so there's a theory proposed by this this goes to what jeremiah was talking about eugene mccarthy
00:41:43.900suggests that human evolution involved a cross-species mating between a male pig and a
00:41:49.540female chimpanzee so that would make them you know our genetic predecessors along with chimpanzees
00:41:57.080um which you know i guess if you had a pig get a monkey and they were going to bang it would
00:42:02.220probably look a lot like me afterwards so um here's here's an example of there you go
00:42:07.000that's a prime example of some crossbreeding yeah and uh and funny thing they walk among us
00:42:12.380when i have when i need a kidney transplant despite her not looking the same as me i can
00:42:16.520i can receive that kidney so there is something to that uh i don't know i mean it's a fringe theory
00:42:22.160and obviously it it's worth mentioning here that scientists uh heavily criticize the the lack of
00:42:29.760credible evidence for such a thing but it just goes to show you like there's something about
00:42:33.260pigs they also have an incredibly high level of intelligence which is bizarre you were talking
00:42:37.500about using them as police dogs or something like that but they're very trainable very trainable
00:42:42.840very intelligent uh i don't know what it is kind of strange that they're inherently unclean um
00:42:49.120they're great pets yeah because they're kind of cool you know what i mean they're like dogs i
00:42:53.420think aren't they yeah i guess we're just not supposed to eat them well you don't need dogs0.90
00:42:57.240either and nancy you don't eat that's nancy nancy should stay quiet on this that's true yeah nancy
00:43:02.220keep your thoughts to yourself um yeah i i don't know uh well what are let's talk about the
00:43:07.240unclean things that we're not supposed to eat what are they so you know leviticus leviticus 11
00:43:13.580breaks down uh you know the different types of clean and unclean things i mean the the majority
00:43:19.100issue that westerners have is with shellfish and with pork pretty much i mean you're not going to
00:43:25.020eat dogs you're not going to be eating vultures for the most part or lizards or snakes but um
00:43:31.120you know that's just kind of a general a general explanation but there's also a spiritual lesson
00:43:36.320behind the clean and the unclean foods like for example pigs they they chew the cud which is a
00:43:42.640clean attribute but they don't have a split hoof and so there's actually a spiritual metaphor behind
00:43:48.680that that whenever you apply the actual you know practice of not eating it you can kind of learn
00:43:53.940these spiritual principles for example chewing the cud is mulling over concepts and and topics
00:44:00.900right and so whenever you uh you know actually i i had it backwards the the the pig has the split
00:44:09.280hoof but they don't chew the cud is what makes them unclean right but um you know there's a
00:44:14.620spiritual principle of like a pig outwardly uh looks like a you know clean animal because it
00:44:20.280has the split hoof but it doesn't chew the cud and so that means it's swallowing things without
00:44:25.000really mulling it over and so the the principle being you know you can become a spiritually
00:44:30.400unclean animal if you're just absorbing and consuming anything and everything. Pigs are
00:44:36.120one of the most intelligent animals out there. When they're hungry, they can also be very
00:44:41.780obedient. But as soon as you fill a pig's belly up, it becomes extremely obstinate.
00:44:46.540And so the concept of what these unclean animals would represent spiritually versus what a clean
00:44:53.340animal would represent, we're called sheep, the good shepherd. In the scriptures, there's
00:45:00.280the parallel with spiritually being you know likened to these clean animals and uh yeah so
00:45:07.420yeah i mean yeah and also there's an interesting parallel with genetic uh modification so mice are
00:45:14.560also used a lot in a lot of the testing for vaccinations and and for like different things
00:45:19.500like they grew a human ear on a mouse a mouse one time i saw um and both the mouse and the the
00:45:25.760swine are mentioned in Isaiah 66 as like being, you know, tied to, you know, some type of judgment
00:45:32.860in the end days. Uh, so like if you were to look at that passage in Isaiah 66, um, you know, those
00:45:39.560who consume swine's flesh and the mouse, the abomination. Right. And, uh, and so, you know,0.99
00:45:45.600I'm not here to, you know, harp on anybody. Cause I definitely have had my fair share of, uh, BLTs,1.00
00:45:51.280you know when i was younger but i definitely think there's a truth that the we're you know0.98
00:45:56.120our eyes are blinded to some of these things you know when we our belly becomes our god
00:46:00.720and uh yeah what's this i found for a while yeah uh you guys never heard of the humancy
00:46:10.180nailed the coffee shut for me yeah i mean you know it's probably what did uh what do you say
00:46:14.240jeremiah sorry have you guys ever heard of the humancy oliver the humancy who was like half human
00:46:19.320half chimpanzee and they couldn't figure it out and i did a whole history's mysteries on it and
00:46:24.420i could not figure out this thing walked on two legs its whole life and it looks like a dude yeah
00:46:31.040it looks like a dude wait a second this is a real they have video of it like it's it's oh
00:46:39.120creepy oh there's apocryphal there's apocryphal support for humans becoming chimpanzees or apes
00:46:46.440also when i hear hybrid that's the first thing i think of every single time is all yeah dude he's
00:46:50.680kind of nightmare fuel in in which book jake oh my god yep there he is so so in the in the book
00:46:56.320of jasher uh which is called pseudepigrapha but it you know it's really interesting it talks about
00:47:01.380those who are at the tower of babel one third of them were turned into uh into elephants and into
00:47:09.300as a punishment for the tower of babel and so it's really interesting because i was looking at
00:47:16.440elephants i was like wow this is crazy is this just pseudepigrapher or whatever
00:47:20.120and uh elephants have breasts just like humans have breasts but anyways i know that's a little
00:47:25.400elephants have breasts yeah you know you'd think you'd think that elephants had udders like a cow
00:47:34.420right but no they have like boobs like elephants have boobs yeah there was something that i saw
00:47:40.160recently where it was uh an x-ray of the skeletal structure of a of an elephant's foot and what it
00:47:45.960to us it looks like a tree trunk but underneath all of that you know flesh and callus and all that
00:47:50.680it is almost identical to the structure of a human foot which actually brought up this conversation
00:47:56.460again about um oh wait a second nancy brought up elephant breasts uh and i i really do want to see0.87
00:48:02.720those let's put those elephant breasts on stage um so you know and nancy maybe after this you can1.00
00:48:09.640find you remove the hideous monkey um oh wow no damn that ain't true are you kidding me what if0.85
00:48:17.780a whole a whole tribe of humans at the tower of babel were cursed and turned into these elephants0.74
00:48:23.140and they're just like the long lost descendants of one of the tower of babel people and they're
00:48:27.920so smart too they're so smart and they're so emotional it makes the indian pantheon make a
00:48:33.160lot more sense right it does the hybrid is eyes nancy see if you can find the x-ray of an elephant's
00:48:39.160foot and how it bears resemblance to a humans um but this this was brought up in a conversation
00:48:43.440recently next time i see an elephant and be like nice tits nice tits
00:48:47.240now they're trying to bring back the woolly mammoth and i mean would you try it would you
00:48:53.180try some woolly mammoth honestly would i try it would i well is that is that considered unclean
00:48:57.540would you sip that milk no no i don't uh i don't do the uh here we go i think it's unclean i'm not
00:49:07.680too sure uh yeah so you see the heel bone you see the the toes yeah kind of scrunched up in there
00:49:12.820it looks like looks like nancy's foot after it looks just yeah yeah when we keep her in the cage
00:49:18.060for too long and her and her and her feet get all messed up like they do um yeah man that's an
00:49:23.300interesting thing but i had never heard that before that um you know i understood the the
00:49:27.720concept of confusing the languages did you say that was an apocryphal text that said that they
00:49:31.940were turned into uh creatures chimpanzees yes it was like there were different punishments
00:49:39.380dealt out like some of them lost their identity through the language change some of them it said
00:49:44.600shot arrows up into heaven and like blood came out and you know they they died and then the other
00:49:50.520were turned into either apes and or elephants and so it's really a peculiar little verse in there
00:49:56.360that uh it makes me wonder you know could could i don't know because i mean what do you guys is
00:50:02.200known to be like somebody who tried to turn himself into a gibberim right right so he he
00:50:08.520became a gibbor and so i wonder if they they were like people that were trying to you know do some
00:50:14.660kind of uh abominable works on their you know their bodies and this was the result because you0.99
00:50:21.160know you also have the that you know phrase in the book of enoch about how the wives of the watchers
00:50:26.780were turned into mermaids or sirens right right so the the transformative element of punishment
00:50:34.240definitely is you know you can see some of that throughout some of these tests you have nebuchadnezzar
00:50:39.140as well turning into a beast of some type oh yeah for a couple of years he's eating grass and such
00:50:45.320yeah what the hell happened there no problem that makes me wonder what do you guys think about
00:50:50.340um bigfoot real or not real and if he is real is i've heard he isn't his tail tell of uh you know
00:51:04.200i've heard uh tell of a tale where a bigfoot identified itself as a um it was a specific
00:51:13.920word and i forget it every time but it's close to elohim right it was uh leu leu which is which
00:51:19.800is a fascinating uh and i believe it's like you know sort of a descendant of a nephilim it's like
00:51:24.540a denomination of you have nephilim rafaim gibberim and then there's like elu somewhere down the line
00:51:30.680right if you were to look at a like a big you know family tree so so bigfoot yay or nay i don't know
00:51:37.880i want to believe so bad in bigfoot but i mean they've never found a full dead bigfoot either0.59
00:51:44.380they just live forever like my dad apparently to the uh the that jew guy or wait is he jewish
00:51:55.000i don't know i don't know if he's jewish no i love how jeremiah's like well let's i i want to
00:52:01.600you know be easy here and be reasonable this guy's saying you're dead but he's he's still like i just0.51
00:52:07.460want to be careful here he loves jews and their lies oh my god okay okay so that was written by
00:52:12.100martin luther that's interesting by the way i know you're saying you want to believe if you
00:52:16.260would have told me you know somewhere out there there's an elephant with lady tits i'd be like
00:52:21.420now i'm a believer so nobody's selling elephant milk no i probably for good reason i gotta see
00:52:29.820it for myself it's thick it's thick i think bigfoot bigfoot is just the psyop to distract us
00:52:35.880from nephilim because i think bigfoot is like the modern oh you know there's these giant things out
00:52:41.920there but really i think it's just it's likely these like nephilim tribes that are you know you
00:52:47.940know getting sighted and they're probably just big hairy people you know just wandering uh in
00:52:54.000the amazon or something they come out and they're covered in fur they have tits and uh
00:52:58.440all right so i want to share this oh by the way jeremiah i wanted to show you because
00:53:11.780i showed jake uh a lot of it don't show off to jeremiah yeah i'm gonna show him because all
00:53:16.040right i was really jealous of your skull so i made my own yeah my own skull and this one's super
00:53:22.100epic can you wear that on your head no no it's it's dude no it's it's just the thing that would
00:53:27.980be a cool hat i'm not gonna lie you could go to disneyland and you could wear that and people
00:53:33.200be like what is that and then you could oh yeah he's part of the he's part of the thing on magic
00:53:37.220kingdom uh the mouse that never dies i have so wait where is it here it's actually a great idea
00:53:42.620like beanies like that like oh man that would be dope so i have this this is from a trail cam
00:53:49.140supposedly and and i honestly would not have thought much about it look at jeremiah he's got
00:53:53.900the real skull he's got the real nasca skull he's about to flex on us oh there it is i just wanted
00:53:58.160to show this is a female one i think the male ones up there is too far to reach i was not would you
00:54:03.240say this is a male yeah what do you think it's like this completely unatomic that one have to
00:54:07.780because i love you guys i'm gonna say it's a it's a male nice or a female whatever no i think the0.58
00:54:14.680fat hog makes it better or yeah fat hog or elephant tits you pick um so we have this image
00:54:20.100here and this has been going viral and i wouldn't have given it much credence i saw this recently
00:54:23.600yeah but for some reason it won't go away also yeah bigfoot uh so just to mention 284 000 shares
00:54:30.5402000 likes must be real people are going this is real bigfoot sightings in ohio specifically are
00:54:35.640like through the roof for some reason did you guys see that uh bigfoot sightings in ohio it was
00:54:40.320reported by the local police in a four-day span they had eight to nine sightings i didn't see
00:54:47.460wow that's crazy i live in the part of kentucky that is like a big spot uh bigfoot hot spot and
00:54:54.380there was a diner just down the road from me called uh uh it's like um sluggos or whatever
00:55:00.520and they were bigfoot it was a yeah they're a bigfoot themed uh diner and and at every table0.99
00:55:06.840they would have a little brochure you could fill out your bigfoot sighting and drop it in a box
00:55:11.220after you ate at the diner but uh yeah i've never seen bigfoot myself but i i i am a bigfoot uh
01:41:21.740jeremiah's just stone face he's working on them he's working on them okay so let me tell you one
01:41:29.880let me tell you one of my bible jokes okay go ahead okay so so you know you know in the book
01:41:34.620of revelation you know all these terrible things happen and the angels stand up and they're like
01:41:39.560come and see look at this well what if the angel had a list right what if what if across the earth
01:41:46.440we heard you know this is the the bowl of wrath come and see oh my god like we heard that like
01:41:56.080in the sky is that what you're saying come it you know it's like mike tyson declaring
01:42:00.560judgments on the world he's so sick bro come and flee oh my god look at jeremiah's crying
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01:42:35.220book everything and it's cheaper rates and everything we literally just tell people like
01:42:39.280figure it out we're like hey there's gonna be an event figure it out well that's crazy last time
01:42:44.460our event got canceled and rescheduled but yeah look at this they got a map this is beautiful um
01:42:50.260we'd love to know your your event too like if we can on our website you know like hey
01:42:55.400rohemian grove is pretty cool well that's october 25th in the in the 26th right and that's that's
01:43:01.020in uh no he's in november 7th and 8th the last one was october 25th and 26th it's i think your
01:43:06.640website needs to be a little doodled because i saw that uh so november that was the date of our
01:43:11.780that's interesting grove like two years ago i think it was six yeah um we didn't even know
01:43:16.440each other but we were doing something very similar uh i don't know what value we're going
01:43:19.260to bring to your event uh but hopefully we can make some cool sunglasses i think uh jeremiah's
01:43:24.680got enough of the cool sunglasses so well there's a prescription i don't i'm not trying to you know
01:43:29.740oh no i'm just wearing them because i'm an asshole why wear them because i'm an asshole and i can't0.81
01:43:34.860see nice very nice we're gonna make you laugh yo we're gonna have to hold jake down and tickle him0.80
01:43:40.580oh you know what i'm thinking is uh we'll bring him some elephant milk and uh and that'll really
01:43:45.920lighten the mood uh so so i i guess before we we bring it out of here um number one uh
01:43:53.040well actually let's ask this question are you guys and i think i think i know the answer to
01:43:57.640this one it's gonna be yes and no no i think it's gonna be yes and yes i think so are you guys
01:44:02.160having fun even though we're in the end times and and everything is falling apart and things
01:44:06.200are crazy are you guys having fun i'm having a blast oh yeah yeah i'm having fun it's awesome
01:44:12.700I mean, being able to be on like shows like this and like having other people that that believe in the same things that we believe on our show.
01:44:19.280I mean, that's that's so much fun, I think.
01:48:39.440I ll we should do it would be really fun0.99
01:48:42.300but I struggle with the idea of Christianity
01:48:44.360and uh christ-like behavior and then also just my whoever i am and like when david's in the room
01:48:53.020it gets kind of like oh yeah we're just beating off each other yeah i want to ask um no no i want
01:48:58.740to ask jake this yeah because this is interesting shut up he's gonna keep doing it so so the other
01:49:04.420day because you know obviously i have a problem we both have a problem with the uh swearing and0.79
01:49:08.840it and everything else you pull up those tits real quick okay um and just check those things
01:49:14.300out dude what a set of swingers and it's crazy that um it just doesn't make any sense
01:49:20.660jake how did you learn about that yeah dude what were you doing because i was looking up that book
01:49:25.600of jasher thing i was like how how can i prove elephants are actually humans and i was like
01:49:30.760wait they don't have udders they have breasts dude i gotta post that i'm posting it on twitter next
01:49:37.260yeah that's crazy so so the question that i want to ask jake is like so obviously you know i have
01:49:46.700a problem we both have a problem and people bring it to our attention routinely and i and it's
01:49:52.020something that i wrestle with and why you like that and i think about i think about jesus and i
01:49:57.180go jesus said a lot of things to a lot of people called a lot of people you know vipers and and
01:50:03.060whitewashed tombs and and all these different things right and um and i go so i go to the
01:50:10.200chat gpt which is just demons but i still i went there and i said hey demons um show me all of the
01:50:17.240insults that jesus used and it and it gave me the list of them and i said interesting and i said hey
01:50:23.500demons uh what insults were popular around the time of jesus and it gave me that list and i said
01:50:30.880hmm they were all the same words in other words jesus seemingly used every word and i'm not saying
01:50:39.780he used it like i do he wasn't just like you know throwing it around throwing it around he used it
01:50:45.960very pointedly and righteously yeah like that last end bomb at the end completely unnecessary
01:50:50.680my bad my bad i'll do better but i go man it it strikes me and this is crazy and i know it is
01:50:58.320is you know we already there's a clip out there of me saying this and this is just but it's it's
01:51:02.120a thought that i had and i you know i go if the word faggot was around jesus might have called0.99
01:51:11.100some of these pharisees a faggot right am i wrong a spiritual faggot am i wrong0.98
01:51:17.200am i am i justifying my own shit it's okay to tell me i'm i'm justifying my own shit1.00
01:51:23.180no no i think language is very subjective i think any intellectual person should be able to0.75
01:51:30.800you know hear through the language being used i think the problem is is the people that have
01:51:37.960wholesome family values they're they're so offended because they've been trained and you
01:51:43.940know you know we talked about owen and he just put out his how to slay a wizard book uh and it
01:51:49.280breaks down this concept so if anybody is like well i have a problem with language but also you
01:51:54.700got to understand that there is a spell craft to the way words have been used and we're trained
01:52:01.360to tune out certain things from a very young age like for for like 15 years you're not allowed to
01:52:07.540say certain words but then as soon as you graduate then you're into this this realm where you know
01:52:12.940people use it in their everyday speech so it's you know it's definitely not a sin to say a cuss
01:52:17.960where you know i think it's it's just how people are programmed and and who do you want your
01:52:23.320audience to be because a lot of people who i think would benefit from like this kind of podcast
01:52:29.120so they're the kind of people that aren't willing to listen to the language unfortunately but they
01:52:34.580would benefit the most from the freedom of speech and from the topics covered and i think that's
01:52:39.920kind of like the the game you have to play is you know how much are you willing to cater to others
01:52:44.960versus just being yourself and then and then you risk not being yourself which is what's valuable
01:52:51.820so and that'll pull that'll put off people right because authenticity authenticity
01:52:55.500that's on a loop um and loop authentic authenticity is what is winning the day right now and i think
01:53:07.580we have a lot of um intellectual thought leaders it's crazy to talk about jesus christ after that
01:53:13.180drop but that's crazy this saturday i was talking with my father-in-law was this after the the
01:53:18.340really stellar uh easter performance where they crucified the tall skinny girl this was before
01:53:24.840wow uh this yeah it's a 501c3 you wouldn't get it yep it was kind of crazy i was talking to him
01:53:31.660about it and i think a lot of people's hesitation with uh believing in jesus christ and uh i guess
01:53:39.160being a christian is the clear understanding to them that they have to then change their ways
01:53:45.260and die to themselves now does that mean language i think i think part of it does but it's also what
01:53:52.520i was explaining to him it's like this is also a process like believing jesus christ and accepting
01:53:57.220as your lord and savior doesn't mean that tomorrow you're some sanctified version of yourself right0.54
01:54:02.840still you and then you have to discover you have to read the bible i'm still a piece of shit you0.55
01:54:07.540you have to study, you have to talk with other Christians in the space. And you're always going0.98
01:54:12.880to be you. I'm always going to be me. And on this show, I'm me dialed up to 100. I'm not like this
01:54:19.420at home necessarily. So I'm a version of me that is performative in a way, but I'm still aimed at
01:54:26.460this thing. And I'm using it as some sort of a contradiction. But yeah, I feel like a lot of
01:54:30.820people do struggle with that. They're not going to be able to be who they are. And that's just
01:54:36.820have to have it all figured out to come into a faith like process and it kind of goes back to
01:54:42.900what we were talking about earlier in the show with the the peter vision and it leads into the
01:54:48.420jerusalem council that happens in acts and uh and it talks about the gentiles that are coming into
01:54:54.480the church these like people that are worshiping at the pagan idols and committing you know temple0.95
01:55:00.040prostitution and all this stuff he says let's not put a burden on these gentiles like these people0.94
01:55:05.540coming into the church let's just start them off with these basic three things which is sexual0.96
01:55:10.560immorality you know the worship of idols and you know drinking of blood basically and then it says0.73
01:55:17.540yeah then it says moses is taught in the synagogue every sabbath day because the faith process is
01:55:24.080not something you have to have figured out on day one it's just it's as long as you're willing
01:55:29.080to humble yourself and be like i don't got it figured out then you're in the right spot to
01:55:33.960take the journey to then start to learn on the areas of your life to, you know, start to make
01:55:38.980more Christ-like versus the old you. And I think that's what a lot of people are turned off in
01:55:45.180terms of the denominational facades and the ways that like, you know, if you want to go to a
01:55:51.080Pentecostal church, you have to, you know, be clean shaven and wear, you know, the real long
01:55:54.780sleeves or whatever. And I think that's what turns people off in terms of like religion versus0.99
01:56:00.620what i think real true faith is because the process is not judgmental it's just it's all
01:56:07.160about for one the the humility humility is the thing that binds the spirit of god to us because
01:56:14.300the moment you are puffed up and prideful that's the moment you have the spirit of religion and
01:56:19.720yeah i think that's you know it's actually tied to the season we're in which is the season of
01:56:24.120unleavened bread. What does the leaven represents? It doesn't just represent sin, which you should
01:56:31.640get sin out of your life, sure, but it represents pride. It represents your own understanding and
01:56:36.780you trying to prove to everybody else that your way is the right way. And whenever we can humble
01:56:43.080ourselves, we're less judgmental. We're able to see the good in people and areas that otherwise
01:56:50.100we might have kind of had a judgmental high pedestal perspective looking down, but you're
01:56:57.720able to see the good in all of these different areas. Like, yeah, we talked about the Catholic
01:57:02.600church and this, but there's people with good hearts in these different systems, in these
01:57:08.420different sets of beliefs. And we can learn from anybody, but you should never get to the point
01:57:14.460where you have it all figured out because that's the moment that I generally tune people out.
01:57:18.300You know, the moment somebody is like, yeah, this is the way you have to believe this is the way you have to walk out your faith in this or that way, you know, is generally when I'm like, OK, you don't have it figured out because wise people are generally humble people and they're willing to hear and have the discourse.
01:57:35.760And, and I think that's the difference between religion and the spirit of religion and the, you know, and having faith and having, you know, at least some, you know, belief in the Messiah and his example, you know, it doesn't turn you into this Pharisee. It's just, it's, Hey, we're all on this journey together. And no matter how rough on the edges you are, as long as you are going in that, that pursuit of truth, then, you know, have the conversation.
01:58:03.080well that i think uh listen you know yeah that conversation that i did have with my my father-in-law
01:58:10.700about this i was having it alongside uh somebody who's a like a newer believer and and she's trying
01:58:17.240she started the conversation and she's trying to uh reach him in a certain way but it's very much
01:58:22.900like it's such a weird thing where it's like uh you know let's let's let's all pray to jesus right
01:58:28.140now and accept him. And I was like, he's not even close. He's not even close to that. And as she's
01:58:33.180doing the thing, which I'm familiar with, and you know, she's doing great too. I stop her and I just
01:58:38.520go to him and I go, I don't give a fuck if you believe in Jesus today or even like accept what
01:58:46.320I'm saying. I don't care. I don't like if we can go away from here. This is not my goal. You ask
01:58:51.680me a question. I'll tell you the answer that I think. And we could have a really fun conversation
01:58:56.020about this yeah i'll never talk to god uh i'll never talk about god to you if you don't really
01:59:00.800want to do that but if you're asking the question then we'll do it and then we got into like a
01:59:04.560really long deep conversation but like i started it off saying like i don't give a f if you yeah
01:59:09.760i don't now let's talk about god because that's not for me i was like i'm looking at like maybe
01:59:14.340it's a backward method but it's not conducive to changing somebody's mind like yeah like okay he's
01:59:19.000coming here to get me to say the sinner you know the sinner's prayer and accept jesus like that's
01:59:23.360my goal. That's not my goal at all. That's somebody else. I'm the guy that's going to
01:59:27.840pass the ball to somebody else. Maybe if you're interested in this conversation.
01:59:30.800If you give me the opportunity, maybe I'll plant a seed to have an earnest conversation.
01:59:35.300I can plant it and water it a little bit, but I don't make this thing grow.
01:59:40.000I'm also here to show you I am a bad person. This is a Christian show, but here's the truth1.00
01:59:46.860as I see it, and this is what I've learned on my journey. Go take it.
01:59:51.620what why i constantly try to lead with the idea that like we're retarded because it's not for0.59
01:59:57.360yourself well i mean it's this idea that like um i'm if i if i can um when god asked job i i bring0.66
02:00:06.060this up all the time it's like uh you know where were you when i laid the foundations of the earth
02:00:10.700we're only here for a little amount of time in the grand scheme of things god might as well have said0.73
02:00:16.620um jobe you're retarded you know and that that probably would have uh surmised the entire thing0.73
02:00:23.240um incredible i'm going on a very like a heartfelt monologue and you're tweeting0.75
02:00:27.880i was tweeting yeah i just didn't know the elephant said would you tag each one of us in
02:00:32.440one of the nipples uh i can try to do that i don't know if that's awesome instagram is is the
02:00:37.540one that lets you tag in that position but i'll try to i just to me it's it's a remarkable
02:00:41.620revelation that they have uh titties like ladies i didn't know that um i think it's a good place
02:00:48.000to leave it but before we do you know i want to remind everybody who's listening where they can
02:00:54.020find uh your shows guys and and where they can buy tickets to to truth or con we're we're going
02:00:59.640to be november 5th and 6th i don't know what we're we might be serving hot dogs uh we might be
02:01:05.440just cleaning up the chairs after the event but we'll be there and um and if you guys can make
02:01:11.440it out to texas it would be very cool uh to see you guys so where can everybody find your work
02:01:15.760guys skeeva news nation on youtube we do a uh new episode every friday at 4 44 p.m cst uh we go live
02:01:23.840at 7 every sunday and then we do a discord hangout every thursday at 7 p.m cst so we're on youtube
02:01:30.720and everywhere else a lot and um truth or con you can find us on our uh website truth or con.com
02:01:38.080and because i figured the word conspiracy is like you know we're not conspiracy theorists anymore
02:01:43.940we kind of uh prove everybody wrong right you know conspiracy factoids so yeah the con is oh
02:01:50.900look there we are you can tell it looks just like us yeah we need some good headshots of you guys
02:01:56.120and we'll put it in there yes yes um i look forward to seeing flat earth dave jvt that's a guy that i'm
02:02:01.740yeah he's like really good friends with