Nephilim Death Squad - March 12, 2026


Epstein & Mormon Blood w⧸ Heidi Luv


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677

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00:00:00.000 We got none. Top Lops and Productions.
00:00:30.000 welcome black ladies and gentlemen to another episode of nephilim death squad i am david lee
00:00:58.100 corvo aka the raven that is top lobster the father of disinformation before we get into
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00:01:40.860 that steve did us dirty and that's fine but we got it back we got it back and we've we've come
00:01:45.800 full circle now guys joining us today is heidi love the return of heidi love uh heidi before we
00:01:51.460 get into this conversation a really fascinating one because you've been at the cutting edge of
00:01:55.400 a bunch of research surrounding, uh, Epstein, his obsession with, with Mormon blood and a number of
00:02:01.120 other things that connect to it. I can't wait to get into that, but let's tell everybody first and
00:02:05.080 foremost where they can find you and find your work. Awesome. Well, thanks for having me back
00:02:10.020 guys. It's been a long time. We'll talk about that, but I'm Heidi love of the unfiltered rise
00:02:15.920 podcast. I'm everywhere podcasters serve. I do have my own website unfiltered rise podcast.com,
00:02:21.280 but most of my work is going to be on Spotify.
00:02:24.800 So just so you guys know that over 200 something episodes there,
00:02:28.860 this has a bunch of backlinks, bio,
00:02:30.780 all the things that you might need to know about me.
00:02:34.080 So yeah, that's where I'm at.
00:02:36.240 One more time.
00:02:36.780 What is that website?
00:02:39.640 UnfilteredRisePodcast.com
00:02:40.620 Awesome. Awesome.
00:02:42.100 Yeah, I saw that was the occult backdrops to Mormonism,
00:02:46.320 which seems to be the gift that keeps on giving.
00:02:48.060 there's so much wild stuff in mormonism you know previous to our last discussion i kind of thought
00:02:53.960 if you asked me how um i don't know how tied in mormons are or or how big of an influence
00:03:01.340 mormonism is i would have said zero i would have said zero yeah i i really didn't think about it
00:03:06.240 at all and then after talking to you finding about the mountain of dna and all these other
00:03:12.020 things their connection yeah which in our defense is why we had to have somebody come back on that
00:03:18.740 they were like wait a second yeah yeah we had a couple of and i said because the things that you
00:03:22.520 told me about mormonism i was like it's just too insane to all be completely true and not to say
00:03:27.660 that you're lying but to say that uh to say that i guess mormonism itself even just like the basic
00:03:34.300 core tenets of the religion yeah we're insane and i was like yes when you came on and you told us
00:03:39.880 what apparently it and i'll when you say mormon mafia even i'm like what mormon apparently that's
00:03:45.820 legit no it's very legit here's the thing heidi i'm not i'm gonna be real with you i've had a lot
00:03:49.880 of like uh skirmishes with mormons since oh yeah and falling out with them yeah they'll come for
00:03:56.220 you yeah they're gonna come for you they came for me hardcore over i don't even remember what i did
00:04:01.160 but everything you said was kind of true and then the people that we had come on that they're a
00:04:06.120 friend of the show i don't even know if he listens anymore um they he's like i have to rebut that and
00:04:10.840 i was like yeah sure i feel like that's fair i feel like it's fair yeah yeah yeah if we have
00:04:14.980 like i mean a very hard hitting uh cutting what would you call it it's a very um there's a word
00:04:22.680 for it where it's just not a good look for the mormons after heidi stepped off the show it was
00:04:27.660 horrific good look for the more horrific i was like listen this is this is not a mormon show
00:04:33.960 but I do want to hear the counter side to this and I heard it and I'll be honest when the episode
00:04:38.800 ended I was like thanks a lot I looked at David I said I think less of this religion now that I've
00:04:44.140 heard the explanation from the people yeah that were like that were countering what you were
00:04:48.640 saying yeah yeah it was it was kind of crazy I want to say like um the the frustration I had
00:04:55.700 wasn't with the rebuttal that he did he uh took a bunch of my shows after this and I don't know
00:05:01.500 if you guys know this and he went on um rumble or somewhere and he made his own channel of just
00:05:07.340 dissecting every word i said and talking about my appearance and weird stuff so i don't have a
00:05:13.300 problem with people rebutting anything i say uh but when it gets personal and then they're pausing
00:05:18.720 it every five minutes it gets weird so that's why i didn't know that well what we said before the
00:05:23.880 show started uh was you know it's it's one thing we have a foot in the comedy realm right so when
00:05:29.720 you're talking about comedy and you're making jokes and everything like it's kind of a dangerous
00:05:33.340 place to be but right now it is um people's faith matters in a way that maybe it hasn't mattered
00:05:40.940 at least on the world stage in a long time in a really long time uh as the world gets crazier you
00:05:46.480 find that uh worship and faith and god matter more and more and so that's a dangerous game to play
00:05:55.060 and and you know the content that you make Heidi is directly about that that's what our show is
00:06:00.200 about and I think that um maybe unsurprisingly we're going to find in the in the coming days
00:06:05.660 that uh as we go forward in time it becomes increasingly more obvious how much of a dangerous
00:06:11.980 so my point is it ruffles some feathers it ruffles some feathers so oh yeah not like defending I don't
00:06:18.960 I don't even know what he said you're good yeah it was weird you guys weren't a part of it he took
00:06:24.320 the recorded episode like screen recorded it or something and went through it like line by line by
00:06:29.800 line by line with his significant other it was just awkward and weird so I I welcome people to
00:06:35.780 fact check me I also love jokes I think jokes are funny uh so yeah none of that is what offended me
00:06:42.540 at all I just didn't know what was going on yeah you've you've put yourself in a in a unique
00:06:47.160 position um more so than we have in that you have um not only you know do you have a strong
00:06:54.820 belief in god but you've pivoted and faced an entire community an entire religion which is
00:06:59.860 mormonism and you're standing against it now that's a very state what you've kind of done
00:07:05.900 heidi is you've pointed and you've identified an enemy right yes i did and i live here and
00:07:12.300 it's a little more personal for me obviously because i'm still here and people still don't
00:07:16.660 let their kids play with my kids and people know what I do. And, you know, the church still doesn't
00:07:22.420 want to excommunicate me, which is bizarre to me. I am still on their church records. I kept waiting
00:07:30.020 for the day they'd chuck me out. They never did. And everybody else I know that talks crap like
00:07:34.980 this gets thrown out and I'm waiting. I wanted my day. I could have removed myself, but then you
00:07:41.600 don't get your day. I wanted to tell them exactly what I thought and why. Oh, you mean to say that
00:07:47.420 they would have called you and offered you an opportunity to stand in front of their congregation
00:07:51.060 and, you know, kind of state your peace? Air your grievances. Yeah. In front of, you know,
00:07:56.700 the top level men, whoever they choose. Yeah. Only men. They call a disciplinary council
00:08:03.840 and I would be disciplined. And I wanted to tell them exactly why I thought the way I thought.
00:08:11.320 That's very similar to Jehovah's Witnesses in that you will stand before a council of whomever.
00:08:17.400 How many? Are there nine?
00:08:18.880 The council of nine.
00:08:20.160 I got to find out. Yeah, I can't remember.
00:08:22.620 I was waiting. I mean, I would tell you if they would call me, but they just, yeah.
00:08:26.640 And that makes me even more so believe that bloodlines matter because I work with a lot of people.
00:08:33.240 LDS Abuse, he does a lot of work.
00:08:35.780 Justin, he believes in the faith still, and they excommunicated him.
00:08:40.460 I work with another guy. He believes in the faith. Still, they excommunicated him. And I'm like, I don't believe. And I I'm calling you out and I'm still waiting.
00:08:50.400 That's fascinating. That is fascinating. OK, so so you've already touched on the idea of bloodlines.
00:08:54.680 Now, when we were saying before that you've identified an enemy and you're standing in front of them in the same state that they're rooted in, nonetheless, and and, you know, this is a dangerous position for you to be in.
00:09:06.200 Well, now it gets a layer more dangerous with the release of the Epstein files from the DOJ.
00:09:13.560 Heidi, you're one of the few people I've seen shouting about this, this this bit of content that's inside these files.
00:09:21.340 And it seems to point to we know that Epstein was obsessed with genetics and eugenics and all these different things.
00:09:29.160 And it seems that there is a major interest in Mormon, Mormon blood.
00:09:35.860 I don't even know how else to put this.
00:09:37.280 I mean, I've not looked at this, Heidi.
00:09:40.080 I've seen you talking about it.
00:09:41.880 Well, is it just Mormon blood or is it everyone's blood?
00:09:44.140 Because I feel like they have a mountain full of stuff.
00:09:45.780 They got a mountain full of blood.
00:09:47.080 Well, they do have stuff, but they specifically reference.
00:09:50.660 And so I can pull up my screen if you guys want me to share what I brought for you today.
00:09:55.060 Yeah, I was very surprised.
00:09:58.360 And, you know, the first thing I like to do when I see something wild come out is, A,
00:10:03.440 vet it you know that's i mean obviously and then b uh i go through and i try and it's going to be
00:10:11.560 a thousand screens for just a second i try to see what i can find about the names that are coming up
00:10:17.580 or whatever's mentioned you know go from there and i try really hard not to disinformation because i
00:10:25.020 think that's important but i also think it's important to share what we do find and so i have
00:10:31.180 recounted some stuff and it was weird. So yeah, here's the first one. I don't know if you can see
00:10:37.040 that. Yeah. Okay. I see justice.gov. So this is straight from the DOJ releases, correct?
00:10:44.220 Yep. Yep. And then, so this is, says at first, Jeffrey was furious, but I pointed out that by
00:10:51.340 staggering daughters every eight years, he would have a supply of ripe girls at his disposal.
00:10:57.540 he bought me a house and got my oldest daughter into blank which is it's byu uh by donating 50
00:11:04.600 000 to their gender studies program don't forget that yeah yeah for my youngest daughter to attend
00:11:12.040 blank and all she had to do was send him a pint of mormon blood every week so that's the most
00:11:16.540 important piece i mean that sounds like a almost like a joke right she get it well well how she
00:11:21.880 god it is one thing but this this um this is coming from a mother who's talking about uh you
00:11:27.600 know i guess she kind of like loves epstein right i have uh perused this entry in the doj files yeah
00:11:33.600 and and this is coming from somebody who yeah i mean it seems like they basically sold their
00:11:38.380 daughter to epstein this person if i remember the context seems to love jeffrey epstein um i saw that
00:11:45.440 weirdness and i was like hmm what's going on here and i'm gonna flick through these really quick
00:11:50.140 but um you know the first thing i did was say what other guy do i know that was really rich
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00:12:48.380 rich people that were Mormons. And Howard Hughes came to my mind. So I started looking up about
00:12:54.500 Howard Hughes and blood. And sure enough, the first thing pops up. And I just thought, you've
00:13:00.120 got to be kidding me. But it says it's because it's during a major medical crisis. Hughes
00:13:05.440 transfusions were supplied by a laboratory in Salt Lake City. This facility was run by Dr. Homer C.
00:13:11.520 Clark, a clinical pathologist and one of the few doctors allowed to regularly even access Howard
00:13:17.060 he was because he was crazy that way. But the connection is, is this was brothers of executives
00:13:24.700 and brothers of even Bill Gay, who was very important in the Mormon mafia. And they actually
00:13:30.440 got, I can vet this one because they got in trouble for transferring the blood across state
00:13:36.440 lines, which is a very strange thing to do. If you're having an emergency, right? Emergency.
00:13:42.640 yeah then you don't wait for blood from a state or two away why would you do that
00:13:48.620 also this my brain would go if you got caught transferring blood like were you driving it in
00:13:56.060 your car that how many times have you done this until you got caught oh yeah and they they got
00:14:01.680 caught and they got in trouble like actually on you know medical boards and whatnot so you know
00:14:09.180 this is stating all these different things and i just think it's really important when we look at
00:14:15.260 this stuff to not forget we have weird people in this world that do weird things and we're going
00:14:21.820 to get more into the genetics into other things like dr cooney comes up well at least cooney
00:14:28.060 um one of the emails says from one cooney island baby to another that's a direct reference to
00:14:36.460 you know these cabbage babies cabbage babies no no cooney um it's a play on words as well
00:14:43.060 is he talking to epstein yeah they're going back and forth a different it's not a cooney that says
00:14:49.480 it but this this is from you know the cooney uh babies that they showed in the world's fair
00:14:55.240 there that this was a whole display because he was a something about epstein that most people
00:15:02.540 don't know. He was born in Seagate, Brooklyn, which is right inside of Coney Island. So Coney.
00:15:10.680 Okay. Coney, Coney. And Coney was specific. It was two O's for this genetics whole thing.
00:15:18.000 But this even caught me. This is real. This is from CNN. The Venus Project, an invoice from
00:15:23.800 researcher, mentioned 160,000 project dubbed the Venus Project, which Epstein claimed would
00:15:30.180 involved 200 participants so he fully like backs this whole thing to make genetics of facial
00:15:37.560 features okay they are customizing people and it's all over okay all right so i want to pull
00:15:46.040 this back for a second because immediately my my thought is well the mormons are uh you know it's
00:15:53.200 like uh any other religion where you you you become mormon and i suppose that within it obviously or
00:15:59.500 else this wouldn't be being brought up right now. There is a bloodline, and I guess that is the
00:16:04.220 upper echelon of Mormonism. I could show you that. Yeah, let's get into that a little bit because
00:16:12.620 that's very, I mean, why would you want the blood of Mormons? I can explain that a little bit,
00:16:20.000 I think. So this is put out, and I can't zoom it in too well. They have obfuscated this. I have
00:16:26.520 looked everywhere for these pedigree charts they used to sell them at the bookstore and you know
00:16:32.400 i got this from a listener that sent it to me you can find it on ancestry but it won't take a clear
00:16:38.860 photo and so this is called one royal line and this is made by archibald bennett and this used
00:16:45.320 to be what the church would put like to basically state that they were royalty and when they say
00:16:52.720 they're Jews, like people, and I don't want people getting mad at me. They say that, not me.
00:16:58.240 You know, when they say this stuff, they mean it. They don't mean it by baptism. And if you could
00:17:04.860 see on here, you know, Joseph Smith is on this, obviously, Joseph Smith. Oh yeah, I see. Is he
00:17:10.540 what's underlined there? Yep, yep. He's tagged here. And so, and if you could see this, this is
00:17:17.460 the star of David. And it says from this line, King shall rule. And it's all goes back to Adam.
00:17:26.200 And, and I want people to understand how important this is to Mormons. Like you can say it's baloney,
00:17:31.520 you can say whatever you want, but when we get into the genetics pit, like, come on, you know,
00:17:36.920 they, they've done a lot with it. And in fact, they did studies on Mormons, 13 families from
00:17:43.380 utah isn't that funny 13 anyway yeah well the 12 tribes of israel plus one doesn't that really
00:17:51.140 uh bolster that claim then if epstein is i mean it's one thing if epstein is checking
00:17:58.200 you get you get you get a glass of mormon blood or whatever the case may be and i'm sure after
00:18:03.740 some rigorous testing you you either put that to bed or you find that there's something compelling
00:18:07.840 there and so you keep doing it so top when you said how often are they um you know trafficking
00:18:14.120 blood mormon blood across state lines it's very unlikely that the time that you were caught was
00:18:19.460 the only time that you were doing it so it's fair to assume that this has happened a multitude of
00:18:23.660 times well and this chart so if you can see this you know how the girl did the the chart about all
00:18:31.440 the presidents being related i remember that that was very funny yeah that was uh obama is related
00:18:36.240 to george bush jr and all this other crap and people were like oh isn't that cute the little
00:18:40.500 girl did yeah well guess what this is why so many of these people are connected so this right here
00:18:49.820 is is a howland family chart so howland came over on the original mayflower um and he has many many
00:18:57.540 descendants in america but the first families they call them the first families are very important
00:19:03.480 to them to me no but to them yes and if you see the smith line is right here yes he is related
00:19:10.220 as i am to all the presidents mostly i mean i think there's one or two that are not uh so is
00:19:16.980 howard hughes so is a whole bunch of people as this spiders out and it's very interesting when
00:19:25.800 we look further into this like why certain people like the gates uh align they say oh no no we
00:19:33.900 aren't yes they are i have about 50 slides coming on a show that are going to show people exactly
00:19:39.620 how the gates are and they'll tell you oh yes we're related to you know howlands because they
00:19:44.660 want that you know nod pilgrim society stuff and right yeah this is old are you are you making the
00:19:53.260 assumption that these are the original 13 tribes i mean i'm not but they might be this no but the
00:20:01.920 ones that they did a dna research project on maybe they did a full research project on mormons in
00:20:09.360 utah and i have the backing for that as well and it just gets really weird we have geneticists
00:20:16.360 involved we have people that have gotten in trouble and and we've got other people like this weirdo
00:20:22.880 here let me show you this guy uh sorry i called you he's weird i don't care um this multi-millionaire
00:20:29.660 oh dude this guy is so weird right and he's trans he's transferring his blood from his 17
00:20:36.660 year old son into his grandfather and he's a mormon so this guy was comparing his erection
00:20:44.500 to his son's erection now i recognize the guy oh wait nothing says nothing says i'm creepy like
00:20:50.260 this picture good lord no yeah he comes up comes up in the epstein files oh really oh yeah yeah i
00:20:59.180 remember hearing about this what was his what was his um here is brian johnson and he i'm not saying
00:21:05.620 he did anything wrong brian but you know you're in there because you made a rebuttal so and he
00:21:11.320 says well i just talked to him once and i didn't know no after epstein was convicted he also
00:21:17.540 contacted him again. So he is aware and continued. He continued. And he makes this rebuttal right
00:21:24.680 here and states that he met him eight years ago and he was so spooked and, oh, he was weird and
00:21:31.560 dangerous and whatever. Look, fine. But then why did you continue to contact him after he was
00:21:38.800 convicted? That is my question for you, Brian. Yeah. Anybody that is having a working relationship
00:21:44.720 with epstein post 2008 uh not not a good look not a good look yeah it's fair to attribute malice to
00:21:51.680 that individual until proven otherwise especially if it's a if it's some sort of a working relationship
00:21:56.360 you know we found out that uh rupert sheldrake was being funded by him which was a huge bummer
00:22:00.500 because that guy does some really fascinating research on the psychic phenomenon and in ways
00:22:05.520 that are tangible and observable just by everybody um in their own everyday life and uh but that dude
00:22:12.140 was receiving funding from
00:22:13.920 2015 to 2018, which is
00:22:16.160 well after the first conviction
00:22:17.860 and pretty
00:22:19.920 inexcusable. It looks bad.
00:22:21.780 And this guy, I'm sorry if you're trying
00:22:24.100 to get the fountain of youth. It's not working.
00:22:26.920 Your hair transplant
00:22:27.880 is good. I mean, maybe
00:22:29.980 not. Whatever.
00:22:32.500 Oh, we got this to him over the years?
00:22:35.200 Yeah.
00:22:36.080 It's not working. That's a scary
00:22:37.760 that's a
00:22:39.980 fountain of demons. He does look younger.
00:22:42.140 not in a great way no he doesn't look younger he looks more ghastly like he looks like an immortal
00:22:46.940 sort of uh you know vampiric uh character yes because facial fat is the you know marker for
00:22:54.100 youth usually typically which is funny uh to to deviate just for a brief second for the audience
00:23:00.140 sake um we had that episode that we did where um you know jim carrey comes up and and he's got this
00:23:07.380 thing where he looks like a different human being and oh yeah we said that it looked like um john
00:23:13.480 malkovich playing jim carrey and and we didn't freak out far off no not far off we didn't freak
00:23:18.380 out we didn't say he's been cloned or he's been murdered we just said this looks like a we even
00:23:21.960 joked around and said if you were rich and you didn't want to go to a red carpet event couldn't
00:23:26.700 you just pay another celebrity to like put on a mask of you and go and do the thing like that
00:23:31.000 would actually be kind of fun and funny so that was our take on it and then it turns out it was
00:23:35.860 it was a promo for a movie that he's got coming up in 2027 where he did have a fake dude uh appear
00:23:42.440 as him so i you know i just want to say like which is we do a good job of not freaking out
00:23:47.600 on this show we don't we don't slap the the you know the clone button too often or the he's dead
00:23:53.220 button too often can i can i ask you something heidi um when those guys were when they were
00:23:57.420 pulled over for transporting this blood uh were they headed to new mexico oh um they were headed
00:24:04.640 to nevada because that's where he did all of his stuff at that point and you know i do want people
00:24:12.260 to understand about howard hughes medical institute and how critical they are to genetics
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00:25:04.420 you might as well publish it. It says right down at the bottom, you know, how much the medical
00:25:09.900 research is important, but CRISPR, even though it's in a roundabout way because they make sure
00:25:14.800 everything is, was originally capped here. Okay. CRISPR funding and CRISPR people and Jack Parsons
00:25:22.780 worked for howard hughes and all of these people uh-huh and their biomedical research so and then
00:25:29.180 as soon as they got this done here's the board okay it's a group of vampires yes absolutely
00:25:35.640 look at the front guy i know they're horrifying looking people 100 yeah it's spooky uh and it
00:25:42.740 says hughes decision would have powerful consequences when he's like changing what
00:25:47.660 kind of business he has and how it's funded and whatnot it's for biomedical research after the
00:25:54.220 establishment of the institute a select group of advisors are the ones that took over and kicked
00:25:59.720 him off his own board they don't mention that part i know that when we talk about uh bloodlines and
00:26:06.680 everything you would imagine that um obviously after we come upon it we realize this is really
00:26:11.820 significant and important i just mean we in the sort of conspiracy theorists sense right the
00:26:16.220 general conspiracy theory population you come across the significance of bloodlines and you
00:26:20.400 imagine well there has to be quite a bit of resources and manpower put into finding isolating
00:26:27.840 uh uh sort of continuing these bloodlines right the research that goes into it um the the
00:26:35.060 preservation and all these different things and then you look over at the mormons and it's like
00:26:39.760 not only is there this huge uh claim to being of these lines but then you look over and it's like
00:26:46.140 what are they doing mountains of dna right ancestry.com it looks like you go oh there it is
00:26:52.500 that's the effort here's what gives me pause because there's a lot going on there right
00:26:55.680 there they have the dna and they have the dna technology and they also have this motive to
00:27:01.300 uh i guess pin pin this pin themselves as a certain type of person on the other hand you
00:27:07.900 have the jews the ashkenazi jews that are in israel who won't take this stuff yeah i think
00:27:13.900 it's illegal to have 23 and me unless it's like medically a medical emergency in israel so i don't
00:27:20.200 know what do you make of that oh that's that's a great question well well that that there's a couple
00:27:26.180 places they won't and france as well where they won't let these tests fly okay and so there is
00:27:32.140 also you know a whole thing about that on here uh saying we refunded your money blah blah blah
00:27:38.760 because they won't work there, to the Saudi prince.
00:27:43.840 That's interesting.
00:27:45.280 But whatever the case may be,
00:27:47.540 I just feel like they don't want to nail down those bloodlines
00:27:51.340 that they think are bloodlines of the gods.
00:27:54.440 We know how this plays out.
00:27:56.020 I mean, your name for your actual podcast has it in it.
00:28:00.080 I mean, I don't think they went for Gilgamesh
00:28:02.600 and all the things they did under Clinton for no reason.
00:28:06.280 You know?
00:28:07.120 Yeah.
00:28:07.280 what i'm wondering is is where does this um where does this all go you know at some point
00:28:16.080 once you identify that this is let's say the genetic lineage of of you know these four
00:28:22.920 mentioned characters well then you would go into preservation and and propagation mode
00:28:30.260 you'd go into well at some point right like they have to make the claim because right now the jews
00:28:35.940 are claiming that they're the people.
00:28:37.620 So are the Mormons positioning themselves
00:28:40.300 to make this claim at a certain point?
00:28:42.660 I mean, they already have made the claim
00:28:45.400 that they came here for the new Zion.
00:28:48.140 That's what Utah is called.
00:28:50.700 This is, you know, they support Israel.
00:28:53.480 They always have.
00:28:54.220 It's in their articles of faith.
00:28:56.580 And that's one of them is that they,
00:28:59.220 you know, 100% will be supporting that.
00:29:02.480 And also, you know, the reason why Salem,
00:29:05.940 which is where Joseph Smith's paternal family comes from, was named such, right? So many places
00:29:11.560 here in America were named after this, and this goes to a grand conspiracy, right? Like this goes
00:29:17.360 to the grand conspiracy of Bacon, like honestly. And for that, I'm glad I put this in here. This
00:29:23.880 slide here talks about it. Now, I can't vet this because this is old, okay? But I do want to go
00:29:31.200 over it because funny enough I think it plays forward a little bit and Dartmouth comes up
00:29:38.100 and there's connections there but John D is one of my great great great uncles and not because
00:29:44.700 my grandma told me so it's because I've looked it up through all my tests I did all the things
00:29:50.780 Ancestry 23 I did all that so this says yeah and they're bringing up a new Rosicrucian order in
00:29:57.440 these emails okay well this states john d also invented or involved in the rosicrucian order
00:30:04.400 he was a german rosicrucian order called the zionitic brotherhood now i know people are going
00:30:10.260 to say this was debunked and whatever but we still need to look at it because here's some strange
00:30:15.600 things okay in the 1900s what is belgium having existed as the order of zion for centuries the
00:30:22.040 headquarters in a village of mormont m-o-r-m-o-n-t i've double checked this that is a place in
00:30:30.740 belgium and it it is crazy because it actually said yeah it's pronounced mormon and so the
00:30:37.740 melchizedek priesthood right with this whole three priories of the order named peter james and john
00:30:43.780 the order was still existent in 1829 in pennsylvania when joseph smith and oliver cowdrey
00:30:49.260 claimed to receive the priesthood from Peter, James, and John. That's what they said in
00:30:54.400 Pennsylvania. They do say that they received the Melchizedek priesthood as a restoration movement
00:31:00.080 from Peter, James, and John. So that's interesting if they're actually in this order. That is very
00:31:07.860 strange. And when we get into holy blood, holy grail, look, I know how it sounds, but the Mormons
00:31:15.080 went crazy for this and so we have to look at everything and especially john d and some secret
00:31:21.740 rosicrucian papers that were supposedly smuggled onto the mayflower and joseph smith has seven
00:31:28.520 relatives on the ship of a hundred where most of them didn't make it so does his wife by the way
00:31:35.200 they were cousins so okay wait let's rewind for a second you said the mormons were obsessed with
00:31:40.580 what the the holy grail yes holy blood the movie holy blood holy grail yes there's books been
00:31:48.000 written about this there's all kinds of comments constantly from the church stating you know we
00:31:54.360 have that blood flowing through our veins kind of like a trump quote weirdness um they say that
00:32:00.840 jesus went on and married two marys and a martha and you know that he birthed children and joseph
00:32:07.460 Smith himself claimed that he was of that lineage and they did some weird things with this and this
00:32:15.980 is where those 13 Mormon families come up because this guy right here his name is Hugo Perego he
00:32:24.340 was the one to go through and actually find Joseph Smith's lineage by going to each of his relatives
00:32:31.700 at like family um reunions and stuff and swabbing their dna and he has actually nailed down joseph
00:32:39.020 smith's paternal line which goes back to a king and he's a celtic king is he uh is this guy's uh
00:32:47.700 position pro uh mormonism or yes he's a mormon oh he's all kinds of mormon let me show this picture
00:32:54.740 here where and he's obviously important because they let him be at this uh little like temple
00:33:01.960 thing and he's standing right next to the picture of moroni and so i mean he's dialed in you know
00:33:07.840 and he's comes up in other places in this and he comes up with funding he comes up with george
00:33:14.680 church and george church comes up at a place in utah called the alta club which is where
00:33:23.360 the Human Genome Project was brought to life. And I have that slide. Yeah. As soon as they got
00:33:31.820 Howard Hughes's money, they started the Human Genome Project. And the people that helped start
00:33:39.260 that, let me see if I can find that. It's interesting, I'll tell you, because Howard
00:33:44.660 Hughes Medical Institute is all over this. And there is so much money. People don't understand
00:33:50.880 quite how much money there is with this and bill gay comes up again and again and he is the top guy
00:33:59.760 that takes over howard hughes medical institute after the death of howard hughes and so and i
00:34:05.420 dare say before they they've managed to keep this under wraps i mean there's so many things that are
00:34:11.480 pretty out in the open when it comes to conspiracy theory and and you know i just reminded me because
00:34:16.220 she's saying Bill Gay and it's, you know, every, it's one letter away from Bill Gates.
00:34:20.820 Bill Gates comes up. Of course he does. Bill Gates and Bill Gates have a picture together.
00:34:28.020 Wow. Want to see it? Here, hold on. I'll wait on this one. I'll wait on this one.
00:34:33.920 All these other things. And it's like, man, this Mormon aspect has really managed to stay
00:34:39.320 pretty well obfuscated, despite how many familiar faces are associated with it and how big of an
00:34:45.180 operation it is and good god oh he looks yes demon that was next to lex wexner yeah right
00:34:52.720 it's his dybbuk it's his dybbuk oh my goodness oh my gosh and the gates always say no no no
00:34:59.320 we're not related we're not related we're not related and i'm like yes you are because there
00:35:03.840 is a picture of the mack family and i don't know if i have it on this slide i'll find it
00:35:09.040 but it's side by side with bill gates and i mean you couldn't tell them apart it's really sad to
00:35:14.920 say but it's almost like they've done uh they've created a lack of laughing they made themselves
00:35:19.520 into a laughing stock on purpose in order to hide out in the open so like that whole south park book
00:35:25.060 of mormon thing the the broadway play and all that i wouldn't i mean listen if we're gonna just
00:35:30.840 dive full into conspiracy let's go yeah yeah maybe i mean if i were mormons i would have wanted them
00:35:35.600 to do that so that way it obscures my like what i'm actually doing yeah because because i almost
00:35:40.000 want to say that generally speaking in the west even jews don't practice some of their stuff
00:35:44.800 as outright as Mormons are doing.
00:35:46.460 Well, the Jews don't have
00:35:47.340 a mountain of DNA, I don't think.
00:35:50.020 Where are these horrifying characters?
00:35:52.500 Let's not forget,
00:35:53.800 they have to tell us.
00:35:54.920 You said they have to tell us, right?
00:35:56.840 And American Horror Story did.
00:35:58.600 She had these kids hooked up to lines
00:36:00.520 in American Horror Story.
00:36:02.680 And, you know, they were her.
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00:36:53.100 publish it i don't know her blood kids you know um that's just the way it is and then we got this
00:36:58.580 guy coming out that he was diddy's blood boy right here and i have a boy this dude yes what
00:37:05.060 yep yep that's real yep man remember what was that guy's name um he was like i was just giving
00:37:13.480 him blood that's well yeah yeah job and this is what's crazy is we always say like uh joe rogan's
00:37:18.220 the new laurel canyon rogan was um really introducing that idea to the public of like
00:37:24.040 oh well there's these really fascinating studies where they take blood from young mice yeah and
00:37:27.720 they put them into i have that yeah interesting and and i go man like now knowing what i know
00:37:34.200 i i realized that rogan you know you think about the the john c lily float tanks and the dmt and
00:37:40.260 the now the the young mice blood into the old mice all this stuff it feels so uh like a soft
00:37:48.020 disclosure or like a normalization of these really high level concepts that yeah if you knew what
00:37:53.280 they ultimately amount to you'd you'd be horrified you'd pull away from it but within the context of
00:37:58.300 like well it's about rejuvenating and these we're just look at look at these fascinating experiments
00:38:02.120 This is kind of what they're asking, what they're doing with the blood. So I guess what we do know on surface level is that they're kind of like putting it in themselves through interfusion. So they're like spinning it, rejuvenating it and putting it in themselves. I'm sure there's a lot more.
00:38:16.260 So vampires.
00:38:16.660 yes yeah yeah i mean medically speaking yeah and when you say you know oh they have a whole
00:38:24.540 mountain of dna let's not forget that we're not kidding okay this is a mountain that they
00:38:32.600 blew out the center of that has razor wire pointing inward why there's armed guards with
00:38:40.420 semi-automatic weapons and this is let's see let's go from further away this is inaccessible
00:38:48.300 to the public this is here in utah yep this is crazy and bill gay was a big part of why this
00:38:56.800 happened but why would you need this kind of level of security for files just what do they think
00:39:04.200 about because because what are you guarding from the inside is a better question yeah that's a good
00:39:09.060 gates gates they figured it out i mean i think they figured out a lot of things you know we look
00:39:17.480 at these mormon people like this um this is a very oh no this is a very prominent 70s family
00:39:26.940 that starts with an o's house when it got sold is that a drain on the floor you know i think it is
00:39:33.880 and um this is just their shower room i'm not alleging anything uh oh yeah the hell showers
00:39:40.400 like that it's a terrifying shower who wants to take it looks like whatever but looks like the
00:39:44.840 pool room of uh what's his name the vanderbilt's table yeah look at this table too this is epstein
00:39:49.900 island look at this table does that look familiar to you altar it's a sacrificial altar and it's
00:39:55.820 that kind of material that you could wipe easily and people are going to say well it's tropical
00:40:00.720 look i'm just saying he has a shower room too and i have a photo of that anybody who's saying
00:40:06.100 who's like giving a plausible deniability for a giant stone table like that on epstein island
00:40:10.560 there were emails to epstein's contractor remember the guy gary or some shit it was a gary we need
00:40:16.140 stuff that wipes clean yeah we needed to be able to like i want to be able to power wash it not
00:40:19.920 lose material when the power washer hits it but also it's got to come off easy yeah why like but
00:40:25.540 why yeah and we get into that but why and it's kind of terrifying and i mean i even have a video
00:40:32.160 of uh the boy the son of the guy which by the way to transfuse this kid for his grandpa at 17 is
00:40:41.700 illegal i don't care if your parent says that's okay or not that's still illegal you know and so
00:40:49.780 i mean you know whatever the courts want to do with that and allegedly allegedly but i'm just
00:40:56.220 saying i would think that wouldn't be something you could do i don't know this guy brian johnson
00:41:03.480 is a rough looking character by the way i think um heidi you actually posted some more of the
00:41:09.260 conversation from that that woman who happens to love epstein and i this is going to be a little
00:41:13.740 bit of a rough listen for the audience but um this comes straight from your your twitter page
00:41:17.460 which I highly recommend people go and find you at unfiltered rise on
00:41:20.700 Twitter.
00:41:21.640 It's a file from the DOJ drop.
00:41:23.580 By the way,
00:41:24.000 Heidi,
00:41:24.700 you're fucking crushing.
00:41:25.860 Oh yeah.
00:41:26.780 Absolutely crushing.
00:41:27.620 It's cool to see you.
00:41:28.520 We've been watching you from afar.
00:41:29.720 I just saw you were doing some IRL stuff too.
00:41:32.240 I'm like,
00:41:32.480 it's,
00:41:32.640 it's really cool to see the people that like,
00:41:35.620 I don't know if we started at the same time,
00:41:37.080 but we were kind of all at the same level for a little while.
00:41:39.900 And everyone is kind of doing their own thing in their own spheres,
00:41:42.460 but like really taking steps forward.
00:41:44.940 And it's,
00:41:45.280 it's encouraging to see.
00:41:46.520 Yes.
00:41:47.040 Yes.
00:41:47.460 yeah thank you guys yeah it's cool so she says still i wanted more for this is a this is the
00:41:53.060 woman who loves jeffrey epstein by the way still i wanted more from jeffrey and he was often distant
00:41:57.340 and dismissive of me and my feminine charms one night as the sun set over little saint james
00:42:02.300 island i stood in the room where jeffrey had just received a therapeutic massage from one of my
00:42:07.300 daughter's friends uh the room was covered this is this is gross guys covered in a genius's seed
00:42:14.280 which was going to waste i had an inspiration and asked the chef to bring me an extra large
00:42:20.100 turkey baster uh it's a lot of seed and in a beautiful fertility ritual created my youngest
00:42:26.180 daughter blank oh yeah it's like this is like i mean i this guy on one end is a evil sort of
00:42:35.980 mastermind eugenicist uh child sacrificer moloch worshiping piece of crap and on the other end
00:42:42.940 there's some woman just reminds you of like women that fall in love with guys in prison
00:42:46.220 what reminds you of like lucifer like probably just extremely charming yeah i guess so like like
00:42:51.300 i guess nick fuentes got into some trouble he's like oh he had uh what he's drip or something
00:42:55.740 like that yeah he said that he had uh uh aura aura he does i guess so you know it's really crazy
00:43:02.420 watching the overlap somebody laid over the black phone character over uh epstein's face and it was
00:43:10.260 like you could drag the slide to make either image vanish and the way they bled into each
00:43:16.280 other's faces perfectly i was like i was a little hesitant to buy into that that he looks just like
00:43:20.520 the black bone character like i could see it but not to the level that i saw it when they put that
00:43:26.360 that you know that comparison i was like oh my god it's it almost seems like another one of those
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00:44:24.680 I bring up with the Dybbuk to let people remember that they said this, okay, about Lex Wexner,
00:44:29.560 because les wexner is going to come up again but not with who you might think you know people have
00:44:35.840 forgotten over time and i'm sure they're super grateful that they have um the fact that this
00:44:41.200 isn't the first time that this has happened with an island and mormons so you know yeah it's
00:44:48.980 tempting to look for a clinton related conspiracy in the epstein affair but by uh such thinking
00:44:53.520 doesn't bear much scrutiny yes bill clinton was a frequent flyer on the lolita express but
00:44:58.100 And Epstein's mentor, Wexner, is a close friend of George W. Bush.
00:45:03.160 Don't forget, he's related to the Howlands, who are related directly to the Mormons.
00:45:08.220 Through that line I showed you, and so is Howard Hughes.
00:45:11.020 And so remember that as we go forward.
00:45:14.460 And they visited Jerusalem together, who supported the Iraq War and raised money for Mitt Romney.
00:45:22.040 Epstein's plea deal, meanwhile, was negotiated on his behalf by Ken Starr, the moral Puritan best known for the Starr report in Mana Lewinsky scandal.
00:45:31.440 So, look, they're doing things for Romney.
00:45:35.380 Now, maybe you could just say, yeah, that's not my fault.
00:45:39.700 He's a bad guy and we took his money.
00:45:41.880 Okay, but we need to talk about his dad because if we're going to talk about Romney's, we need to talk about a different island.
00:45:49.460 And that is Mackinac Island.
00:45:51.400 and it was the Epstein Island of its time. So if you've heard of this story by Kathy O'Brien,
00:45:57.920 the SRA victim, she is stating that Romney's father, George Romney, was the one that used her
00:46:05.560 in black ops and peace stuff while Mitt Romney, you know, he's Mitt Romney's dad. And he also is
00:46:12.260 not a citizen of America. He has dual, well, he probably is now, but he wasn't born here.
00:46:17.680 his dual citizenship in Mexico, where they run cartels and breakoffs, very interesting breakoffs
00:46:24.700 called the Church of the Lamb of God. And, you know, there's some very interesting things
00:46:33.000 with this. But yeah, so this Romney stuff, she states all of this. Not only that, but let's also
00:46:41.900 remember that Mrs. George Romney of Michigan, Governor George Romney, was on the National
00:46:47.080 advisory board from 66 to 67 the year that epstein intended interloken and so all of this is
00:46:56.160 together and i have checked these photos they are real it checks out yes with playboy
00:47:01.360 heiress christine hefner so so hefner's wife or hefner's daughter i think it's his daughter
00:47:10.260 okay so it's interesting on on merkel's uh one of his latest shows there was a woman there that
00:47:15.240 was a playboy bunny uh that had been trafficked afterward by epstein and she did her best to
00:47:21.240 differentiate uh hugh hefner from uh from epstein's you know his operations yeah almost
00:47:29.800 painting hefner as like a good guy that was just addicted to like regular sex i mean but then maybe
00:47:36.520 that come out of there about the the trafficking and even the tunnels beneath hefner it's like a
00:47:41.880 It's almost a one-to-one in its operation.
00:47:44.580 There's a blackmail operation.
00:47:46.540 Yeah, there's tunnels.
00:47:47.500 They're doing blackmail, sexual blackmail
00:47:49.040 for all these elites and everything.
00:47:50.880 I mean, you know, they're facilitating sexual encounters
00:47:53.380 with these beautiful women to buy the favor of all of the...
00:47:56.680 Like, it's a one-to-one comparison.
00:47:59.000 It's just absent of, like, a Moloch statue or something.
00:48:01.500 Like, I don't know how you would try to separate.
00:48:03.980 Yeah, bail.
00:48:04.280 Whatever the case may be.
00:48:05.160 It's just bizarre.
00:48:06.340 Like, we were looking at this situation
00:48:08.520 where she was defending this so hard.
00:48:11.880 because she wanted Hefner to almost seem like a guy
00:48:16.380 that was just kind of addicted to sex.
00:48:17.760 He's the good guy.
00:48:18.700 The good guy, and I'm just like, no, what a crazy scenario,
00:48:21.220 because both of these entities are evil in their own separate way.
00:48:24.400 Oh, yeah.
00:48:24.880 You almost have to give it to Hefner
00:48:27.600 in his ability to become beloved in American novelty
00:48:31.600 that the entire populace is not only aware of,
00:48:35.720 but also sort of champions and celebrates for a long, long time.
00:48:39.460 Isn't isn't that Joseph Smith in a nutshell? Yeah. People loved him. They talked about how handsome he was. They talked about how charming he was. I mean, let me ask you this, Heidi. Do you think that, you know, given the idea of like generational iniquity and we've become pretty comfortable on this show with the idea that some of these entities, these ancient entities might have greater access to somebody of a particular genealogy or bloodline.
00:49:05.840 And then given Joseph Smith's alleged interactions with, you know, all these entities and these supernatural occurrences, do you think that there's room for him having actually experienced these things, not deceived anyone? You know, obviously, the nature of the interactions could be deceptive, but it doesn't mean that he didn't actually have interactions. And could that have been facilitated by the idea that he is of these bloodlines?
00:49:30.840 I mean, if you are doing magic in any form and asking things to inhabit your doing ceremonies, that's the whole reason why the LDS people do a ceremony.
00:49:45.540 Because if it didn't mean anything, why would you do it?
00:49:47.600 It has to mean something, right?
00:49:49.660 Because if it doesn't mean anything, then it would have stopped a long time ago.
00:49:53.480 Same thing for magic.
00:49:54.560 Like, why would you keep doing something that, you know, is that way?
00:49:59.320 So that doesn't make any sense. And with, with a lot of this stuff, like, you know, we know it
00:50:05.400 pierces veils because who told us Parsons tells us Steiner told us all these people talk about
00:50:12.360 this. And so that's why I bring, you know, the proposal that I think it's Typhonian magic. I
00:50:18.540 think it's older than that, but that's what we're going to call it because I mean, that's who
00:50:22.880 labeled it, you know, um, they do certain things in the temple and hold their hands certain ways.
00:50:28.700 And it just resembles that to me.
00:50:32.140 And do I think every Mormon does that?
00:50:34.360 No way.
00:50:35.240 No way.
00:50:36.120 I think this is for the top level people only.
00:50:39.980 That's it.
00:50:41.100 Like, there's no other way to put that, you know.
00:50:44.840 The same thing for Freemasonry, right?
00:50:46.660 I mean, you know, there are people that are in there because it's a social club.
00:50:51.220 And maybe you could do a little networking.
00:50:53.100 You might become buddies with a guy who's a plumber.
00:50:55.060 And you know a little bit about carpentry.
00:50:56.440 and you can kind of skill share, you know, and you work on my deck, I'll buy some beers. Next
00:51:01.540 time I'll work on your plumbing and you buy some beers type of deal. But at the highest levels,
00:51:05.260 there's something obviously much more nefarious going on. It's a hundred percent. Well, this is
00:51:11.360 nefarious. Even Romney, look at this. Like Bain Capital. Bain Capital is attached to who? Robert
00:51:19.080 Maxwell. Tell me again how you don't think that's connected. Bullshit. It's bullshit. And he was
00:51:24.420 among the early investors for Romney this is the son Romney so mid okay Romney had already
00:51:30.080 established himself in business through BCCI people can check this all out I have this all
00:51:34.560 like noted and everything but Robert Maxwell died before his daughter began working with Epstein so
00:51:40.580 then it kind of went away from evidence wise like we don't have that but we know that he was like
00:51:46.200 connected and what happens to BCCI it gets shut down because they're doing like low level like
00:51:53.900 basic corruption and it got bill gay the guy i told you ran you know howard hughes's empire his
00:52:00.780 son kicked out of the quorum of the 70 which just doesn't happen that doesn't just happen so
00:52:06.740 that i mean you have to do something pretty egregious to have that occur so i just think
00:52:14.120 that people need to look at how old this is and when i talk about this stuff we have to look at
00:52:19.880 all the branches because part of the Mormon churches is that it splintered when Joseph
00:52:26.300 Smith died. But Joseph Smith was doing some really weird stuff before and he was studying Hebrew
00:52:33.220 even though he couldn't read English. Like what? Why would you do that? You know, that's weird.
00:52:39.840 And so he was studying Hebrew with this very important guy. And this guy is one of the top
00:52:47.840 uh jewish people that came here to america with the last name seixas one of the few people at
00:52:54.860 washington's inauguration and he also gave one of the first the first ever thanksgiving prayer
00:53:02.120 and he was that influential why does the dumb farmer boy have anything to do with the big wig
00:53:09.840 son he's learning hebrew from him and anytime we get into this weird shit like school of the
00:53:15.320 prophets and all of this stuff, okay, that I'm telling you because this is what it is. It's this
00:53:21.740 blood fallen church narrative, radical fundamentalist or fundies, they'll call them,
00:53:28.140 but it is that they've entered into secret combinations with the government and the
00:53:33.280 Mahon, master Mahon path, which is like Cain, you know? This is an adherence to basically,
00:53:40.840 it's the same thing right law and genetics not not saved by grace not grafted onto the vine this
00:53:46.760 is a focus on uh like you said radical fundamentalism and uh and save yourself
00:53:53.620 you're gonna be a god yeah it's all that's weird yeah yeah and this guy yeah he went on to do these
00:54:01.020 really weird this is just one of them this cross builder he went by onias because he was the prophet
00:54:06.360 the Onias. He was one of the few that, you know, went and settled in Parowan and he started doing
00:54:12.280 it again. And so when we get this splinter group and you hear LDS Church of Satan, which we will
00:54:19.080 see, it comes up in, you know, the whole thing with the Pace Memo and all of this old SRA,
00:54:26.540 it's SRA abuse, but their testimonies are identical all the way down. So it says that
00:54:33.180 they did this because they were an inner
00:54:35.060 Rosicrucian council. Again, we're hearing
00:54:37.120 this. The smuggled papers of John D.
00:54:39.380 The Church of the Firstborn claims
00:54:41.280 that if you
00:54:42.920 seal the first
00:54:45.200 born in blood,
00:54:47.280 you'll get baby resurrection
00:54:49.280 and the rest of your kids will be protected.
00:54:51.360 And funny enough, Joseph Smith's first
00:54:53.080 kid died right after it was born.
00:54:55.160 That's weird. That's a
00:54:56.880 sacrifice of the firstborn
00:54:59.200 kind of a deal. Yep.
00:55:00.520 Exactly. And that's why they call the church
00:55:02.960 the church of the church of the firstborn we actually have uh nathaniel gill is coming on
00:55:07.440 at four o'clock today awesome yes he's great so that i have i have a really sneaking suspicion
00:55:14.240 that we're going to get into some uh some of that kind of necromancy stuff yeah oh a hundred percent
00:55:21.160 these guardian spirits like i dare say that's what they're doing they're channeling you know
00:55:25.980 when we go to the temple we get a new name when we go to the temple um you know all these things
00:55:31.540 happened that you're you're performing necromancy after the first one and the first one you get a
00:55:38.220 new name and it's you know for time and all eternity that's not what the bible says that's
00:55:43.520 not we we aren't supposed to be married for time and all eternity we aren't supposed to do a lot
00:55:47.580 of these things it's not biblical and so where did they get that information it's ancient you
00:55:52.860 know this is cathar stuff this is old let me ask you heidi as we move towards this like this
00:55:58.420 everything's getting really weird you have this you know the epstein files are released and now
00:56:02.200 we have like war with iran and everybody's you know tired of hearing that already it's it's what's
00:56:07.480 completely um uh you know infiltrated all social media platforms it's just this war with iran
00:56:13.740 situation um and then of course we have whatever's going on with disclosure which seems to be we're
00:56:19.600 we're edging ever closer to it and i am looking at this and i i i called this on twitter and i think
00:56:26.940 it was um you know some people were like wow i can't believe you called this but i think it was
00:56:31.780 kind of low-hanging fruit but i said after the doj files were released that we're going to look out
00:56:35.380 for uh one of three things or a mixture of them we're going to see either uh the the collapse of
00:56:40.380 the dollar we're going to see iran versus israel or we're going to see alien disclosure and right
00:56:43.940 now obviously disclosure and iran versus israel are looking real good um the reason i called that
00:56:49.800 was the collapse of the dollar to be honest sure and and the reason that i i called that is because
00:56:54.320 i always looked at the epstein files as a uh they would use it as a plot device and it would only be
00:57:00.740 revealed to the public when it was ready we're ready for the next scene um but i think that scene
00:57:05.160 was a big shake-up you know of uh we're we're moving players into positions of power that have
00:57:12.180 been weighted and they've been in position to take that spot um you know and that's going to be a big
00:57:17.140 shake-up there's going to be wars and all kinds of things like that i never stopped and considered
00:57:21.400 like what Mormonism would be doing during this time and I think that's a fair question to ask
00:57:27.580 it's like you guys have a mountain of DNA uh you you think that you're you know uh of the 13 tribes
00:57:33.540 there's there's so much going on I cannot imagine that they haven't either foreseen this time that
00:57:40.740 we're in now or played a massive instrumental role in you know moving the pieces around the
00:57:46.600 world stage for this time and i can't help but wonder what's their play what are they doing next
00:57:52.080 and i i do have a i don't know if this is gonna segue with what you had planned heidi
00:57:56.760 but we've been we've been going at it with uh some some fake archaeologists
00:58:01.520 about the nature of aliens i saw your memes
00:58:04.960 yeah it was yeah it was pretty funny oh you like she liked it um i liked the gay indiana jones
00:58:14.720 i don't know why i have no idea why he thought that was about him he was just trying to do
00:58:19.660 regular indiana jones i loved it i loved it yeah i thought you were honoring him that's it yeah
00:58:27.400 he dresses really cool so is there i mean because this mormonism stuff is all kind of aimed in the
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00:59:22.360 publish it is there any overlap with uh the alien phenomenon or disclosure as as we know it right
00:59:29.000 now and what mormons are doing because it seems like they're kind of intertwined with the occult
00:59:33.660 with some sort of like demonic powers or at least some ancient gods that are aligning to do something
00:59:39.360 I would almost say, Heidi, they have to be, right?
00:59:41.400 Because they're doing, at the core of the alien thing, there's a hybridization thing.
00:59:44.900 Well, I'm just saying we might be wrong.
00:59:46.960 No, no.
00:59:48.360 Look at the hands.
00:59:49.460 Okay.
00:59:49.940 Here.
00:59:50.300 This is real.
00:59:51.080 This isn't a reenactment.
00:59:52.340 See the little line?
00:59:52.880 What's that?
00:59:53.180 What are they doing?
00:59:53.960 They're at a temple ceremony and they are doing the true order of prayer.
00:59:59.680 Okay.
01:00:00.140 Let me show you something.
01:00:03.800 Are they doing that?
01:00:05.080 Because I think they are.
01:00:06.500 It looks like they're doing that.
01:00:07.600 With the thumb out.
01:00:08.420 Yeah, we can't.
01:00:09.360 I can say that I did it, and I know that you do that.
01:00:13.000 And when we're talking about this true order of prayer and Typhonian,
01:00:16.900 and they're even showing you that, you know, they're doing this.
01:00:21.420 Do they wear a bag on their head?
01:00:23.180 They wear a bag on their head?
01:00:23.800 No, no.
01:00:24.960 I think that's just an ugly guy.
01:00:28.060 Oh.
01:00:28.900 He's just got a lumpy head.
01:00:30.740 The women wear, well, they used to wear veils because we weren't good enough.
01:00:34.320 Oh, okay.
01:00:34.860 I see.
01:00:35.320 Now they don't.
01:00:36.420 I mean, it's all changed.
01:00:37.480 but you know like this is a better example here there we go that's real this is real
01:00:43.320 that within the the mormon church they're changing things so that they can increase their membership
01:00:48.560 um i think they want to increase their membership but they don't want to increase the real true
01:00:54.420 knowledge so what they've done with the temple ceremony is it used to be two hours and it was
01:00:58.420 like just like masonry you had to memorize things and it was really important all this stuff
01:01:02.520 well now they just rush them through and they give them cue cards that's because
01:01:06.080 all their positions are in my opinion filled up they don't need any more special people you're
01:01:11.420 not going to be special enough anyway yeah this is about the elites and the elites align you know
01:01:16.840 people forget that the mormon church is interlocked with the catholic church the mormon church is
01:01:22.760 interlocked with many other churches through philanthropy but specifically through god's banker
01:01:28.600 through aristotle onassis's banker and all of this is linked you know when we look at david m
01:01:35.240 Kennedy, which I almost threw those slides in here, but I didn't. He was best friends with
01:01:39.820 Sindona, Michelle Sindona. Do you know who I'm talking? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
01:01:44.320 Michelle Sindona. Sindona. He's God's banker. So he did all the banking for the Pope and also was
01:01:51.600 best, best, besties with Mormons, David M. Kennedy. And he was very influential. He wasn't just some
01:01:59.360 guy you know we're talking about the money of the church here and it gets really wild you know and
01:02:06.640 when we're talking about these files i mean this is one hallway what this yeah this is one hallway
01:02:14.560 what is the files what files this is the d the not dna i can't say that but i will tell you that
01:02:22.600 they do have that and i'll show you why and how but this is supposedly the genealogy files one
01:02:28.440 one hall and if you think you're not in there because you were never a mormon you're in there
01:02:33.120 i promise by the way the reason that i asked is because um i see the same thing within jehovah's
01:02:38.520 witnesses my wife is an ex-jehovah's witness and my wife and um and she says like as time
01:02:44.500 goes forward they become more and more lenient with like dress code and appearances and and
01:02:49.140 things like this where they used to be really really strict yeah they're just trying to get
01:02:53.420 people in so it's a numbers game but you're right at the top of it it's like there's coveted
01:02:57.940 information. The average person's not going to be privy to this. So they just need the numbers to
01:03:02.340 gain the influence. But they believe that they are the 144,000. So it's like, how many slots
01:03:09.040 could you possibly have? So do the Mormons. Yeah. Oh, fascinating. Yeah. You're not going to heaven
01:03:14.900 if you don't have the top rights done either. If you're just a regular Mormon and you didn't go
01:03:19.160 through the temple, you're not going. You're not going. They used to tell us. And they used to tell
01:03:24.060 us too that their Jesus isn't Christian's Jesus either. So what, wait, wait. So what did they
01:03:30.580 think of Jesus? I mean, how did they define? Jesus is born of God, a man who was making Jesus,
01:03:39.960 who is a man and we can become like him someday because yeah, we're going to be gods. And so
01:03:47.660 this gets back to why I bring this up is the whole alien thing. But I don't think that I do think they
01:03:53.580 are nefarious spirits like and I do think they're channeling them into people and I do think that
01:04:00.240 and I mean there's just too much on the ceremonies and I and they're not doing this as hard anymore
01:04:05.520 so that tells me if you're rushing through it and you're not doing it correctly do you already have
01:04:10.460 those that you chose yeah and their bloodlines because you know who they are because I'm going
01:04:16.000 to show you a study that proves it and so and nobody talks about that but this just shows you
01:04:22.480 how in bed, you know, the Bushes, and this is an old prophet of the church, like he's dead now,
01:04:27.340 but prophet Thomas S. Monson, and look at them, you know, their brothers literally related through
01:04:33.800 the Howland line. Like these people, that pilgrim lineage, and they will tell you those first
01:04:39.880 families are so important. And I just don't think people want to know, like people that come at me
01:04:48.080 and they're like oh you know you're a liar blah blah i'm like okay well did you read the part
01:04:53.280 where they made coffin canes out of the disgusting wood that they were rotting in and then they dug
01:04:59.740 them up and made these canes out of their bloody grody dna coffins and then put their hair in the
01:05:06.240 knob like did you get to that part people like what hold on bring that up top this is a next one
01:05:12.740 the knob wow the coffin cane this wooden cane has hair embedded in the knob which is reported
01:05:18.220 to be the braided locks of joseph and hiram smith this cane is also said to have been made from
01:05:25.260 the wood of the coffins holding the smith brothers before they were removed
01:05:29.500 to their fight i mean this is necromancy right this is that's what this is this is the church
01:05:34.140 museum this is at the church whoa that's crazy man i mean think about this when when you watch
01:05:42.220 um harry potter and they go this wand is made from this and it's got unicorn hair in it like
01:05:48.880 that's and they're like okay yeah that's magic but when the when the mormon church does it it's
01:05:53.380 not magic what i mean sometimes they don't have a wand sometimes they have a staff right correct
01:05:59.840 one yes joseph's serpent cane yeah wow he had a serpent cane and here's the back of it moses like
01:06:11.000 moses right oh and it's got a seal looks like a royal seal or crest like a family crest with an
01:06:18.600 upside down cross and joseph's initials sure fantastic yeah the eyes in the sky yeah three
01:06:27.140 eyes they don't believe that god and jesus are one person it's three people it's jesus is separate
01:06:32.600 from god which is separate from the holy ghost so right this is very similar to um i actually saw
01:06:38.360 jay dyer arguing with um dang what was his name it's a dude from info wars uh um i forget harrison
01:06:47.720 smith not harrison there's another guy who's one other guy with the beard no he's a younger dude
01:06:51.840 i conflate him with harrison smith a lot but um a chase geyser oh yeah we know chase yeah yeah so
01:06:57.440 so chase goes to you know he's a he's a freemason and i imagine he's just at the level like he
01:07:02.740 doesn't understand what the hell chase is a weird dude and he's like look you know uh jay dyer is
01:07:08.040 saying anything that has a supreme being like a solo individual supreme being is inherently denying
01:07:14.740 jesus christ and the trinity because you can't just have this one entity that is the supreme
01:07:20.480 being that doesn't have like this third aspect or these three aspects the holy ghost and
01:07:24.420 and jesus christ and you know he struggled with that and then chase said well then does that mean
01:07:29.780 that aa is actually leading people away from christ because and and basically the answer was
01:07:35.100 like yeah yeah well it was set up by the by nefarious people right yeah the the the origins
01:07:41.900 of aa are are a a shady thing too and so origins of chase guy i like chase but like his origins are
01:07:47.880 fucking weird he seems cool yeah i've told him to his face like i've i've seen him come out of
01:07:51.720 nowhere i've seen him do interviews with steve banning get 12 views and then all of a sudden he
01:07:55.840 it's just very strange well you know i i say this a lot about people in our space where like i don't
01:08:00.120 get too hung up on the who's a fed who's not a fed some of my favorite people are feds alex jones
01:08:05.020 is a very entertaining individual uh he's very fun to watch and is he likely i mean he says
01:08:10.740 outright that his family is well he hired chase guys this is what i'm getting at
01:08:14.820 it's just weird it's just weird to me that's very weird guys and we know the feds have infiltrated
01:08:23.260 definitely the moron church like i mean it's it's crazy to me that they still say like you brought
01:08:30.360 up entities. Okay. So I come back to Moroni. They still say he's an angel, but how's he an angel if
01:08:36.640 he's a dead guy? And how is he an angel if he was summoned here in a quarter moon ritual, which he
01:08:44.760 was. So for years he was. And so when we talk about entities and your HGA and your, you know,
01:08:53.780 do you know what I'm talking about? Holy guardian angel stuff. I'm actually not familiar with it.
01:08:57.780 to unpack that a little bit okay so your hga is like your your holy guardian angel that you align
01:09:04.920 with and i truly believe this is what joseph smith feels that he found do i think that he might be
01:09:12.100 off for sure you know but when we talk about the sacred mage and the abermelon and all this you
01:09:19.840 know this is what crowley was doing too he said his was cagliostro if you remember right that he
01:09:25.440 was reincarnated so moroni the problem i have with moroni is is that moroni is the guy on top of
01:09:31.880 every uh temple very masonic blowing his horn but the problem with him is is he's he cannot be an
01:09:39.420 angel because he lived he was alive and he said so so that makes him a spirit and whenever we talk
01:09:46.900 about spirits i'm always going back to john d because john d will tell you they're liars they're
01:09:54.400 liars liars yes this is my thing right now where it's like all of the alien stuff let me just say
01:10:00.300 i was in a space yesterday with tupa tupacabra oh were you yeah yeah just really quick because
01:10:04.380 they were they were they were touching on this exact subject so i came in and that guy bruce
01:10:08.440 fenton was in i don't even really know what he bruce fenton not familiar with him uh yeah this
01:10:13.180 dude here i don't know apparently he's been on some like tv shows or something like that
01:10:16.260 we'll pull him up oh this guy's a little bit weird yeah he said some silly shit and i made
01:10:21.800 he's a retard and it's not you know i guess yeah yeah i i mean that actually against him he's he's
01:10:29.080 retarded so he worked for the history channel science channel and oh that makes sense i mean
01:10:32.540 if you work for the history that was his exact argument after i i laid out the history like the
01:10:37.320 brief history of what spiritual entities are what they might be where they come from he goes yeah
01:10:42.520 but like you know sometimes like the demon wouldn't tell you a lot the demon would only tell
01:10:48.000 you a lie it wouldn't tell you the truth it wouldn't come for you that's exactly what it
01:10:51.400 would do are you kidding me what what if naive idea is that and i was like i was like i should
01:10:56.620 rebut that but i'm like it's too it's too stupid to even rebut yeah it's like if i am capable of
01:11:02.100 lying to you by telling you some truths and comforting you what is an ancient entity that
01:11:07.580 is pitted against humanity the entire premise of that guy that guy talking after i spoke was
01:11:13.720 because i called him an asshole on twitter i planted a seed on twitter yeah you took it to
01:11:18.980 heart showed up it's like so you don't think that that an ancient entity would do the same thing
01:11:23.540 that's like i did it to you just now i did it to you and look where you yeah no yeah and when we
01:11:29.260 talk about this summoning stuff like in the smith family people always talk about oh the smiths and
01:11:35.020 they came from palmyra new york no they didn't this episode is brought to you by spreaker the
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01:12:25.080 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it they came from salem massachusetts
01:12:31.860 his father and i'll show you that in one second but this again shows because not only did joseph
01:12:38.820 oldest son die and it was a baby death and it was born so deformed that they couldn't it couldn't
01:12:46.360 live and they named it his dead brother's name because his brother died when he starts doing
01:12:52.280 all this angel chitty chat his brother the oldest son as well dies of an accidental overdose so
01:13:00.600 and then they dug him up and then they ran it in the newspaper six times it seems like they had a
01:13:08.520 a big they were big fans of necromancy and anything adjacent kelts yeah he's from a celtic uh king's
01:13:15.440 line i mean i think they knew a lot of stuff to be quite frank and i mean that's fine you know
01:13:21.120 what i always tell people you know they get pissed at me for this you want to go do whatever you want
01:13:25.860 to do go do that but also like that's on you i'm just trying to help the people that want help you
01:13:32.040 know like i can't yeah i can't do anything about that but this is joseph smith uh senior's grandpa
01:13:38.860 and so this is in salem massachusetts let me go back uh he was born in massachusetts bay colony
01:13:45.920 in 1666 that's an interesting year with oh yeah geez come on lorionic but massachusetts bay anyway
01:13:53.900 it talks about that he was a selectman there you know and but the weird thing is is that they always
01:14:00.280 hid this line and the Mormons are super patriotic and I'm like why would they hide this line well
01:14:06.460 here's from the Salem society it's because he helped kill a lady and he like basically signs
01:14:14.060 that he had spectral evidence against her because her shadow person I don't even know what to call
01:14:20.700 it or ghost pushed him in the middle of the night so he signs this whole thing about it
01:14:24.960 and you know they go in and this lady is hung funny enough on the day that joseph smith gets
01:14:32.120 those plates 100 and some years after that's a little weird wait uh on the day on the day she
01:14:41.080 was 100 years before joseph gets the tablets yep same day yep so this is this is what i'm talking
01:14:49.540 like today we're supposed to be it's like a we have a blood moon tomorrow on march 3rd at 3 33
01:14:55.840 in the morning and my reaction to that is like dismissive wanking gesture because that's not how
01:15:01.480 uh i like if you're i look it's a fascinating thing but i'm like i i don't know i don't know
01:15:07.660 what to me i don't like giving those things power because the only magic exactly the people that
01:15:12.600 give that power are the ones that are number one attributing grotesque amount of power to uh satan
01:15:19.040 and his and his you know his minions uh and and the other side of it the people that are fascinated
01:15:23.760 by it are the ones that are hoping to achieve something on that morning at 3 33 and it's just
01:15:28.480 like it's i i look at it and i go i don't i don't it's not that i don't care but right right but
01:15:34.400 it's probably not even the correct calendar to be quite frank you know yeah i mean let's be
01:15:40.440 realistic but when we go through this stuff these people did know these people knew magic and not
01:15:46.780 folk magic that's what the mormons are going to tell you this is folk magic no this is blood
01:15:51.640 magic and blood magic this is solomonic magic and i can prove that too but when we talk about
01:15:58.000 these people they went on just so people could check this out after this whole situation happened
01:16:04.360 they were already engaged do you know about the salem witch trials about the gould family g-o-u-l-d
01:16:09.380 have you studied it a little so they're like the major players in this whole situation with the
01:16:14.340 salem witchcraft trials well they were married to the smiths at this time and they go on to be
01:16:20.840 married to the smiths for six more generations after this you want to say lock down a secret
01:16:26.280 like right they're doing that on purpose and these certain families are marrying specifically
01:16:33.880 from that howland line okay and see if you look down here september 22nd 1692 september 22nd he
01:16:41.700 goes on the 21st and then it changes in the middle of the night because it's all in the
01:16:45.660 middle of the night sounds super christian oh this is the woman that he he won a trial against for
01:16:51.180 what did he do to her because of her shadow he yeah she pushed him in his mind and so they hung
01:16:59.540 her and he was the one to sign the petition that said yeah she did that to me and they really were
01:17:05.440 doing it loose huh back in the day oh i think that she knew i think that she knew you know what
01:17:11.080 I think the people that got hung and whatnot then were the people that were innocent and they were
01:17:15.600 like, I'm going to tell your crap and then you're going to be in trouble. Oh man, imagine that,
01:17:20.800 right? So the Salem witch trials are actually a direct inversion. The witches didn't get hung.
01:17:25.320 The witches pulled the truth and got the other people hung. Everything's an inversion with these
01:17:29.920 people. And that is part of the big problem because these people, when we get into it,
01:17:36.680 I'm going to say that I truly believe they've been infiltrated by Lorianic, uh, Kabbalah.
01:17:43.860 And so do you know what I'm talking about? No, I don't. You're just using a bunch of,
01:17:48.900 like, I like to think sometimes that I know a little bit of something until Heidi comes on
01:17:52.660 the show and then I'm like, I don't know shit. No, I just am always in a book. That's, I mean,
01:17:58.200 but Sabatai, you know about Sabatai Sevi, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's a familiar name. Yeah. That's,
01:18:03.200 that's it that's the lorionic kabbalah uh heresy of the jewish people and and actually the mormons
01:18:10.960 so it's a branch of the same thing that's that at its root is like the sephiroth like it's all the
01:18:16.300 same crap it's just like i noticed that they kind of give it different names like we were looking
01:18:20.220 at something the other day and it was um the the kabbalistic tree is the same exact thing as the
01:18:27.820 separat like it's but there's another yeah but there's another belief system that has it and you
01:18:34.340 oh it's like Jacob's Ladder it's the same thing as Jacob's Ladder within Freemasonry and so it's
01:18:39.660 all the same shit they just continually give it a different name oh absolutely they do and when we
01:18:45.140 look at this stuff okay so Plato they also involve like these old teachings like Plato's School of
01:18:52.620 the apostles okay there's a different thing called in mormonism the school of the prophets okay but
01:18:58.740 everybody that reads this school the prophet stuff goes batshit crazy they go batshit crazy
01:19:03.920 and so when we look at this and we're looking at you know blood magic with them you know slitting
01:19:10.580 throats of dogs with sacred magical knives and all kinds of weird stuff and jupiter talismans
01:19:16.720 and that's why i know it's solomonic magic because if you look at his talisman it leads us directly
01:19:20.900 back to the magus because there's actually an imperfection in the magus on this particular
01:19:25.800 drawing and that's why but you know we talk about lori valo she killed her kids i mean you know they
01:19:31.500 buried them in the front yard and she was obsessed with blue eyes just like we see all over epstein's
01:19:37.680 shit yep and she's talking about how her kids are happier now and she did them a favor and they had
01:19:44.060 a whole zombie raiding system and her kids were zombies they had to go oh they were infiltrated
01:19:49.620 i'm looking at this this uh this jupiter talisman um oh i have yeah i have a picture too i can okay
01:19:55.480 great if you could bring that up because this is very obviously uh solomon is magic i mean there's
01:20:02.140 no way around it somebody got pissed at me and was like you stole my info and i'm like bro all
01:20:07.340 i did was put this in reverse lookup and it came up i'm not i'm not also i mean what's what's the
01:20:13.780 Heidi, do you understand now why we had to, like, after you showed us all this stuff, I just got to leave you inside because this is horrific.
01:20:22.820 But it's like having her back on the second time, like, oh, you mean all of this stuff plugs into everything we already know?
01:20:27.940 I know. Yeah. Which is why, this is why, like, even when we get the Epstein files, I'm like, why are you telling me all this?
01:20:34.820 Because it's what we've been saying. And I'm like, I need to go back and relook at this.
01:20:38.160 because i think it's a mess with people it's going to break a lot of people they can't imagine
01:20:43.460 in their minds that because this happened to my kid okay he's like i've been telling everybody
01:20:48.520 about this since i was really young and now it's right there in black and white and what am i
01:20:53.060 supposed to do with that and we can't do anything and it just makes people feel even more powerless
01:20:56.960 that's interesting how is he because that's that's very much the same place that i've been where i'm
01:21:01.440 that i'm not upset about it how old is your kid and he's into this he is 25 yeah he's 25 and he's
01:21:08.680 always been into conspiracy stuff but then he went into psychosis because he did too much he's open
01:21:14.660 about this so he did too many uh mushrooms with pot and there are some people genetically that if
01:21:20.840 you do that a certain amount of times it just you're unlucky and he went into psychosis for a
01:21:25.820 year and he was battling demons and i mean he completely wasn't it was so bad that he wasn't
01:21:32.340 changing it wasn't showering we had to put him in patience like it was really bad so yeah what
01:21:37.540 is he doing now yeah he's okay now but he struggles a lot and you know he still has like
01:21:44.880 almost like acid effects of things like where things will ripple kind of like alice in wonderland
01:21:50.220 syndrome and we've kind of gone back and forth about whether or not i think that's what it is
01:21:54.880 But, you know, he's got two little boys now and I'm a grandma and there he he's focusing on them.
01:22:03.300 So good. Yeah. Check out his music. Balduvian Bears. If you like the cure, you'll like it.
01:22:11.540 Yeah. Nice. There you go. Balduvian Bears. Check him out after the show. It is. It's weird because, you know, you would think that people from the outside looking in, if you know, like a conspiracy theorist friend, you might think like this is a season of vindication.
01:22:23.580 it's actually much more a season of confusion if you're not rooted in the Lord. Like I routinely
01:22:29.860 turn back to God and it's just like whatever feelings of confusion that I have, I put them
01:22:34.020 on God and it's just like whatever, you know, there's a plan already. And this is just playing
01:22:39.400 out in the way that it's supposed to play out. But if you look at it too analytically, you do
01:22:43.500 kind of get filled with this spirit of confusion because it's like what should be vindication
01:22:47.780 instead is just like, why? Why is this thing? Why am I right? Number one, like that's a kind of a
01:22:52.940 weird thing because i'm a high school dropout why am i right about the the nature of the way
01:22:57.620 yeah like it's so crazy that you're like what no yeah yeah it's also we've seen the example of
01:23:05.000 people that they they become validated or vindicated in a way of of their talking points
01:23:09.820 and it's like great now it's confirmed and they move on and it's like well if that's wrong now
01:23:14.360 your entire premise falls apart and then that's like that's an entry to psychosis so whenever i
01:23:19.320 get uh introduced to like hey man you've been right the entire time i go back and i go thanks
01:23:24.580 let me take a step back and reevaluate just to make sure and really make like yeah really dot
01:23:28.900 my i's and cross my t's make sure all this stuff is legit because if it's not then i'm gonna have
01:23:33.520 to deal with that like that ego crashing later in particular the thing that um at least it's like
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01:24:31.200 publish it but as we sit on the precipice of disclosure the thing that i'm really happy about
01:24:35.940 is it seems like everything is pointing towards um the research that has to do with frequency
01:24:41.800 based technologies channeling entities through drug usage through ritual through sacrifice all
01:24:49.920 these things and the origin specifically of these like alien entities as they've been channeled in
01:24:55.200 the past and we talked about a previous show even Alistair Crowley says what was once achieved by
01:25:00.260 way of channeling drug induced states and ritual will eventually be achieved by technology and I
01:25:06.120 think that um that is a a bit of information that i'm grateful that god allowed me to see
01:25:13.140 because it it it really is important how you frame these things that are going to come to pass
01:25:17.660 these entities are the same entities that they used to channel and they're not they these are
01:25:22.320 spiritual beings whether you're going to see physical craft or physical bodies or biologics
01:25:26.660 you know i'm not too sure what to make of those i got a lot of theories about them but i know that
01:25:30.680 the nature of them and the spirit that dwells within them or the spirit that controls them
01:25:34.300 the thing that they're aligned with are the very same things that they've been channeling for a
01:25:38.160 long time. And I think a lot of people are going to miss the idea that these people have been
01:25:42.060 sacrificing, you know, whether it's, you know, Molech or whatever, uh, to these creatures.
01:25:47.440 And as we get this big revelation on one hand, that they actually are satanic pedophiles that
01:25:52.640 sacrifice and worship and all this other crap, people are going to miss the point that many of
01:25:57.180 these entities that we're going to be exposed to are the things that they were sacrificing and
01:26:00.800 worshiping too. So, um, but I'm grateful for that. Well, this will tell you, this will tell
01:26:05.140 people at least the Mormons and people get mad at me because they're like, well, what's your point
01:26:09.340 of all this evil? God already is going to win. Like I look, if you don't know, it is easy to
01:26:15.420 be deceived. I didn't know. And I was deceived. And what happened to me? I go and do weirdo
01:26:20.580 rituals in a temple ceremony. That's what I'm trying to save people from. Like, I don't hate
01:26:25.380 the Mormons. I want to help the Mormons, you know, and anybody else that's involved in something
01:26:30.540 similar like you said jehovah's witnesses and stuff may be similar or whatever like if this
01:26:35.400 will help somebody it's not like i one day woke up and was thinking to myself oh let's just
01:26:41.320 embarrass myself on the internet and have to learn computers and all this stuff just because
01:26:47.500 you know why don't i make an enemy of the maybe the most powerful religious organization in the
01:26:53.200 state that i currently live in yeah yeah yeah yeah this was not yeah this is not my idea this
01:26:59.960 was a God thing and I'll always stand by it. And if, you know, the persecution that comes with it
01:27:04.460 is great. Like it's, it's not fun. It's really not. But yeah, I, I mean, I've had some fun doing
01:27:09.860 this. I've met some great people. I've got to do research. I've become better at things, but
01:27:14.040 I don't think this was an ego development thing. If anything, it's the reverse of that. But you
01:27:19.360 know, I was in a really low place when I started really praying like for real and, and this happened
01:27:27.540 And I I'm like, this is nuts. And people can laugh at it all day long. But I just I know what I'm called to do. And if I'm the Micaiah and kings of my time, then that's what I am, you know, in the Bible.
01:27:40.040 Well, you know, there is a there is a silver lining where it's like if you're aware of these things for any extended period of time, you would find that talking about them is isolating.
01:27:47.900 But in this capacity, we get to I mean, we spend it, you know, daily and you do, too.
01:27:53.460 Right, Heidi, where it's like you get to sit with somebody and whether it's on a screen or, you know, in real life and talk a similar language to somebody who is not going to laugh you out of the room who actually goes, oh, you've got a fascinating piece of the puzzle.
01:28:07.080 See how this one that I've been carrying around fits with what you think.
01:28:09.560 and that's refreshing. I didn't have that for a long time. Uh, and so podcasting has been
01:28:14.040 fantastic for that. I, I did at first and then it got weird and then hopefully it will come
01:28:20.620 back around. But I think for women, it's a little bit different because I think the first thing men
01:28:25.000 think of women in podcasting is especially this type, not like murder or self-help or whatever.
01:28:31.360 Right. Like, oh, that's great too. But I'm just saying this is a different place. Like not a lot
01:28:36.080 of women fit in and i think it's been hard for some people to adjust to that not that they're
01:28:41.240 against women just that they're like but why right like i get it there's been a cultural shift in
01:28:47.720 that direction we've been blessed to have like the the women who appear on this show yourself
01:28:52.660 uh vicky joy anderson karen wilkinson we have uh danny from the rabbit hole danny from the rabbit
01:28:57.900 hole uh what's her name there's another one that i saw uh k podgy seems like somebody that like
01:29:03.600 but the women are few and far between especially ones that like because there are and i will say
01:29:08.060 there are a lot that i'm like i don't really take this person seriously and i don't think
01:29:10.820 they take themselves that seriously some of them are just doing it for the like anybody yeah
01:29:14.640 or fun or whatever maybe just for fun i and i don't hate on people like that look that's okay
01:29:21.120 too we all need our thing you know yeah yeah is a good one who is oh yeah she's dyer's wife i don't
01:29:27.300 want to call her jay dyer's wife i feel like such an asshole i know who you're talking about jamie
01:29:30.560 dire she crushes dude uh but but she's one of these people just like heidi when when when they
01:29:35.740 come on i'm exposed to a bunch of shit that i didn't know but here's an interesting metric
01:29:40.260 though heidi which we like so our youtube page is growing now and we pay a little bit more
01:29:44.700 attention to the analytics surprised to see like even though like oh my god yeah we're dudes and
01:29:49.340 we talk a lot of stupid shit yeah it's about uh 50 50 uh women really women men yeah and we're
01:29:55.240 talking about like you know like deeper stuff so there is an interest of like woman that that
01:30:00.500 like this stuff and i think there's going to be a weird resurgence where you're going to start
01:30:04.560 seeing a lot of women seriously stepping into the space and like like coming forward and doing a
01:30:09.940 good job well you know what it is if you if you really observe the spiritual and supernatural
01:30:14.260 aspect of conspiracy theory women are typically like they're into it they i think they're a little
01:30:19.140 bit closer to the veil in a lot of ways and so they have more spiritual interactions and encounters
01:30:23.560 than men typically do and if they're not grounded in christ that will drive them everywhere but
01:30:27.180 that's why you have like such a huge remember bimbo astrology bimbo astrology she was saying
01:30:32.420 that's her name she's great she's awesome she's awesome yeah um but she uh like many other people
01:30:38.100 are drawn to these mystical teachings because on some level i think women are willing to engage
01:30:44.680 with the thing despite the materialistic paradigm saying that's not real right because we live in
01:30:49.540 the west they go that's not real and and they go shut the hell up i'm gonna look at it anyway and
01:30:54.000 And so in that way, it's fantastic.
01:30:55.960 It's just got to get rooted in Christ.
01:30:57.320 But that's everybody's game.
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01:31:47.120 Well, or expose it, right?
01:31:49.100 Like we aren't just called to understand it.
01:31:51.480 Like a lot of people are like, good for you.
01:31:53.040 Go figure it out.
01:31:53.800 But like, no, I'm called to expose evil.
01:31:56.040 That's my job.
01:31:56.900 I'm supposed to do that.
01:31:58.300 And people say, well, you talked to that one Gnostic guy, or you talked to the, and you
01:32:01.740 didn't say anything.
01:32:02.540 How much do you think I'm going to get through to a person and even try to help them in any
01:32:09.040 frame or fashion and not, you can't really preach to them.
01:32:11.940 Right.
01:32:12.320 Right.
01:32:12.560 In that situation, you have to agree to disagree, but you need to learn from them because really
01:32:18.360 at the end of the day as Christians, and I hate to bring this up, you're not going to get it
01:32:22.780 by talking to other Christians. You will never understand. You won't.
01:32:27.540 Correct. So if you offend everybody in the first four minutes, when you go,
01:32:31.520 that's not true and Bible thump thump, you're not getting anywhere. You're not.
01:32:35.880 Well, that's what I found in the exploration of these topics is that many of the things that
01:32:41.580 people are glomming onto have quite a bit of truth, actual truth within them. It always comes
01:32:48.320 down to the nature of a thing though and and so you know if you're observing numerology if you're
01:32:54.080 observing astrology if you're engaging with uh spirits that you think are ancestor spirits and
01:32:59.360 you're doing some sort of wiccan i'm not even saying you are not interacting with an entity
01:33:03.320 you are and that thing might be imparting on you actual valuable information that is rooted in truth
01:33:09.420 but its nature is to deceive you and it's deceiving you about its very nature and so what
01:33:14.920 And it knows everything.
01:33:16.300 It knows everything.
01:33:17.260 I was listening to something just today or yesterday, and it was talking about psychics
01:33:22.260 and everything.
01:33:22.780 And I was like, yeah, I get it, but you're not leaving any room for familiar spirits
01:33:27.620 communicating with familiar spirits, whispering into the ears of the recipient.
01:33:31.540 Well, and this says it right here.
01:33:33.740 Like when Mormonism, they want to say, well, that was just folk magic with this pentacle.
01:33:37.780 Okay.
01:33:38.460 But it doesn't say that.
01:33:39.980 And they said, well, he was just trying to protect himself.
01:33:42.260 Read this.
01:33:42.860 This says it protects those who invoke and cause the spirits to come.
01:33:49.200 Look, that's a different thing.
01:33:51.140 That's exactly what you're talking about.
01:33:52.900 That's exactly what John D is talking about.
01:33:54.860 Can you make that big screen?
01:33:55.760 I want to see that.
01:33:56.520 So this is the Jupiter talisman.
01:33:59.600 This defended, zoom out a little bit.
01:34:03.620 I can't see that top area there.
01:34:06.660 I want to start from the top.
01:34:07.940 Right there.
01:34:08.520 These defended and protected those who invoke and cause the spirits to come when they appear,
01:34:12.560 show unto them this pentacle and immediately they will obey that's fascinating because i think a lot
01:34:18.020 of what these things do is they will so like let's say uh one of the examples i bring up all the time
01:34:22.740 is sage people will sage their homes i think effectively what you're doing is you're giving a
01:34:26.620 burnt offering that appeases the spirit momentarily but then they come back stronger not only because
01:34:31.980 it is uh you know a place whose magic is it whose magic is it exactly and and this pentacle where
01:34:39.200 it's like how uh how advantageous would it be for them to get you to believe that this thing has
01:34:44.900 some power back off for a time and then come back why would you need a seer stone and a hat if you
01:34:51.860 just believed in god yeah you wouldn't yeah you wouldn't yeah it's so crazy too is the top hat
01:34:58.700 that he has oh yeah that's the real this is the real hat right here um and that's the other prophet
01:35:06.020 of the church that just passed away, Russell M. Nelson.
01:35:09.040 So that's the same hat?
01:35:10.240 No, is that the same hat?
01:35:11.800 Yes, they took it out of the deep storage of the tunnels
01:35:15.000 underneath the temple, which they are documented
01:35:18.680 and they're for anybody.
01:35:20.180 The church says they're there,
01:35:21.240 that they use them for transportation underneath the city.
01:35:24.480 Weird.
01:35:25.460 And they also have armed guards.
01:35:27.160 So if you try to go into that,
01:35:29.840 the Mormon CIA will probably shoot your ass.
01:35:32.400 But anyway, yeah, you know, they have a vault,
01:35:35.420 just like the pope and they finally couldn't deny it anymore they were like okay you want to see the
01:35:40.260 hat like fine i'll do a photo app and then they did it with you know the rock his seer stone
01:35:46.160 uh as well and the pouch that he carried it in oh that's this is yep it's just shaped to it at
01:35:54.060 this point but yep he carried it with him and funny enough even though he believed in his
01:35:58.940 magical underwear he didn't die with those on but he sure died with that jupiter talisman in his
01:36:03.060 pocket i'll tell you what man i have like a real and i think this is because of what not only the
01:36:08.720 allure of it naturally because obviously the idea of a powerful artifact is enticing uh to mankind
01:36:15.240 right i mean it's it's it speaks to something deep within maybe our genetics uh but also the
01:36:20.540 way that hollywood and the video game industry and everything have constantly presented us as
01:36:25.920 as we've developed and gotten older and compelling stories shows etc powerful artifacts that imbue
01:36:33.040 its wielder with something that is you know beyond the capabilities of normal men uh you look into
01:36:38.660 greek mythology where these demigods are often given uh something by their fallen angel parents
01:36:44.740 you know whether it's like perseus where he gets this polished shield um and his sword and i believe
01:36:50.280 he might have a bow on top of it but there's always like these weapons or these things
01:36:53.760 and it's like super tempting right this like beautiful object that elevates you above the
01:37:01.880 average person in order to pull off heroic feats like damn cool concept right but well especially
01:37:08.140 if you think your bloodline of the gods which they do yeah well there you go that's that that
01:37:13.560 demigod thing resonates with you it bridges the gap between you and your your celestial uh parent
01:37:19.640 your your uh your fallen angel parent or what have you it's just fascinating over and over again
01:37:25.000 a hundred percent a hundred percent and they do this time and time again like we've got
01:37:30.100 mormon transhumanists we've got howard hughes wanting to be frozen jeffrey epstein wanting
01:37:35.140 to be frozen yeah yeah that are like you said they want to defy normal right but none of them
01:37:44.280 none of them live all that long i mean it's like okay it's normal i mean that prophet that i just
01:37:49.800 showed you he did he lived till 101 well there is there's something about talismans because in the
01:37:55.820 bible and like in the book of acts paul has uh different things uh i'm like in acts 19 he had
01:38:02.340 some aprons handkerchiefs and like other cloths that he touched and they were just like bringing
01:38:06.960 them the sick people and oh that's right and they were being healed when they were touching him
01:38:10.960 right yeah so he wasn't like actually physically there but this thing had a power and i mean even
01:38:16.120 jesus uh the woman touches his cloth and he's like he turns to her well he turns to his apostles and
01:38:21.920 he's like yeah who touched me but like the translation of the greek was like who took from
01:38:26.700 me oh that's fascinating yeah yeah uh i forget the exact word but like she touched a cloth and
01:38:31.880 took power from him and she was healed i'll tell you what i would love to it's crazy i would love
01:38:36.180 to think along the lines of like you know the inversionism satan doesn't have the ability to
01:38:41.560 create he only has the ability to kind of hijack what god has already made and invert it in some
01:38:45.260 way shape or form principle then that's what i'm saying these things do work so you're saying
01:38:49.220 there's a chance you're saying this you find some dope ass you know stone type situation you know
01:38:54.480 that's it yeah yeah really really check in with god over and over you're like are you sure if
01:38:59.240 you ever find a sword in the stone when you manage to pull it out just take some time before you
01:39:03.580 will to go like god are you sure dude because i'll talk i'll toss this thing back into the ocean or
01:39:07.300 back into the uh to the lake man you're like i'll put it back up i was i'll put it back i'll be
01:39:13.040 can i take a selfie with it something cool yeah i mean you know a selfie and and i think we see
01:39:21.440 that time and time again with you know cursed objects or yeah blessed object we do we see this
01:39:26.740 and i you know i i don't discount magic ever because it would have gone away why would why
01:39:33.060 would people keep doing it doing it that's stupid no i saw something uh it's a conversation between
01:39:39.420 two people i forgot who it was but they were like you know big sort of influential might have been
01:39:43.500 like a tucker carlson or let's say but i don't remember exactly but the interviewer asked uh
01:39:49.040 what in your opinion is the best evidence for jesus christ and he responded whoever this was
01:39:54.260 i'm not saying it was tucker uh responded the fact that we're sitting here talking about him
01:39:57.940 right now it's like yeah man there you go two thousand years later still talking about the
01:40:02.420 dude like i mean that's insane right underneath your nose thing to overlook how about that you
01:40:09.140 can't talk about him yeah like you can get a coke with any name on it but jesus like you can get
01:40:16.060 all this weird stuff right like not only that but all throughout the 90s and 2000s and even the 80s
01:40:22.280 if you got on stage and you made fun of him you get a round of applause if you said he was king
01:40:26.800 you get fired from the daily wire oh touche yep yep yep and it makes you see like obviously like
01:40:33.340 you said they're they're creating like look at this slide where it says the dna from the original
01:40:38.840 13 families became the Rosetta Stone of human genetics. This is Utah Mormon families. This is
01:40:49.840 Utah Mormon families. The Thousand Genomes Project. Even today when scientists do massive global
01:40:56.180 studies like the Thousand Genomes Project, they still go back to the CEPH Utah samples, which the
01:41:02.800 CEPH is those original 13 families.
01:41:07.200 So you can say a lot about them,
01:41:08.500 but you can't say they weren't thorough in their investigation.
01:41:11.680 I mean, they're smart.
01:41:13.660 Yeah, they're smart.
01:41:15.020 I mean, they are definitely all about it.
01:41:17.920 And what did they do to, you know, fund it?
01:41:20.060 Of course, they overtook Howard Hughes,
01:41:22.280 or maybe I feel like they made him believe.
01:41:24.220 I think he read the Golden Vow, and so did they.
01:41:27.220 And I think they were like,
01:41:27.920 you're the king, and looky, looky, you know.
01:41:29.900 I don't know.
01:41:30.700 That's just my thoughts, but whatever.
01:41:32.800 To clarify, Heidi, when they're saying the 13 families, are they saying the 13 tribes?
01:41:38.200 They're saying 13 actual families in Utah are now the Rosetta Stone for all genetic studies in the world.
01:41:45.280 No, I don't want to seem racist, but I'm going to go ahead and say it.
01:41:48.260 I'm sure they're all...
01:41:50.800 No, but like when we're talking about what God would have created, is it now, you know, Heidi has kind of like blonde hair.
01:42:00.160 She's got blue eyes, white skin versus like a rabbi shmooly type.
01:42:03.940 That's in the, it's just when I look surface level, I like take all your knowledge out
01:42:07.520 of your head and you look at the guys that are from like, you know, the Orthodox Jewish
01:42:11.240 community, they're like hunched over.
01:42:12.880 They're like all like dysgenic.
01:42:14.760 And I'm kind of like, God made this when she said earlier that it's weird.
01:42:18.180 Like you guys both mentioned it earlier that they won't allow like that kind of genetic
01:42:22.160 testing.
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01:43:08.080 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it in israel right right right right is
01:43:13.600 is that because they want to obfuscate you know that they are of the line or are they trying to
01:43:19.840 avoid like a great big revelation that says like you have no genetic connection i forget who i was
01:43:24.220 talking to but there was a what if what if it's the inbreeding too like what if they can't narrow
01:43:28.960 it down because there's so much well like the the inbreeding of like maybe they won't know
01:43:35.880 maybe it's one big line and they're like sorry like you don't have a tree you have a pole
01:43:40.960 oh that's a crazy con you don't have a tree you have a pole yeah sorry
01:43:47.220 the theory of like what if this is because we argue with we argue with mad all the time about
01:43:54.140 like the jews and what they're doing there and i'm like they're kind of like they're polish they're
01:43:57.140 from all over the place he's like oh but it's a miracle god brought them all back to the land
01:44:00.360 what if they're just there to kind of like take the spots around it and do what they're supposed
01:44:05.920 to do and then when they do they're out like the vatican has well breaches i want to hear something
01:44:11.980 the mormon church saint orson hyde who was a jew is his last name was heidelbaum but he cut it down
01:44:20.160 And he became one of the first Mormon people.
01:44:23.100 And then he went to Jerusalem before the Balfour Declaration.
01:44:26.660 So before anybody claimed the land per se, in a treaty at least, wise, right?
01:44:32.480 Like people claim the land, but the Balfour Declaration kind of substantiated them as a country, you know?
01:44:38.920 But he went to the Mount of Olives and stuck his flag in the ground and dedicated it to the LDS church.
01:44:44.280 What does that mean?
01:44:45.160 yeah it it goes right in line to that theory of these guys and it's it's really sad man because
01:44:51.880 it's like a group of people that is a scapegoat almost they're going to do all this dirty work
01:44:56.380 as we watch the narrative uh change against them and we wonder why it's so easy and open now and
01:45:01.920 people like have huge platforms and not to not to knock anything yeah no i get it no i get it
01:45:07.500 it's frustrating like look at what they're doing it's very frustrating and they're clearly doing
01:45:11.540 wrong and now you can kind of build a platform off of like telling the truth and bashing them
01:45:17.080 in a way but it almost seems like yeah it's being presented to us so that way it can be taken out of
01:45:21.760 the way but then what replaces that so you're saying they're seat warming they're seat warming
01:45:25.980 for the vatican or for the mormon church or maybe there's like a going to be a mixture of both of
01:45:31.640 yeah all the time all the time i like that i think you're right on with that yeah i think
01:45:36.180 think about the what does Rothschild mean it means red shield shield what does a shield do
01:45:44.120 it protects somebody else that means they're holding the shield a placeholder for somebody
01:45:51.120 else to be protected bingo damn yeah that's so interesting too which is why you know i we always
01:45:57.220 have this art sorry sorry no go ahead it's like who the fuck are these people and then when you
01:46:01.540 bring that up you can't even get past go because they're like the promised people look at them
01:46:04.700 and i'm like i'm looking at them they're like i don't i don't i don't think so well there's like
01:46:08.920 a this idea of like 13 families that are hidden behind 13 false families yes i've seen that yes
01:46:16.420 yeah that's funny some of them are italian like the black nobility yeah most of them yep
01:46:22.920 yep you have no idea you have no idea yeah we have a third uh uh co-host he does a show called
01:46:30.840 straight bible and he you know he gets he doesn't understand like the conspiracy kind of stuff i have
01:46:35.500 to argue with him only on surface level so like i can't admit like don't go deep exactly but like
01:46:42.080 surface level surface level is like we're watching israel uh coax america into a war right now and
01:46:46.560 it was like can we at least talk about that it's like well why not other countries yeah he'll go
01:46:50.760 oh wait so you mean to tell me that if you don't look at any any other thing that's that's bad like
01:46:55.440 a pornography company he's like you won't find like let's say like italians and it's like well
01:46:59.940 actually i suppose yeah but what we're dealing with right now what you need to see is the
01:47:05.100 superficial evil and you're not even seeing that so that we can then tell you you're wrong about
01:47:08.600 that so that you can say you're gonna break his brain uh dude that's that's really crazy though
01:47:14.760 i think you guys nailed it with this idea that they're they're seat warmers because yeah if you
01:47:18.640 look at them i'm gonna go ahead and because for lack of better vocabulary um in very many instances
01:47:25.260 when you see them they have a uh you know i'm just gonna say dude they have like a neanderthal
01:47:30.140 kind of a visage to them they look messed up there's all this inbreeding that begets right
01:47:35.400 within ashkenazi jews is a disproportionate amount of schizophrenia schizophrenia is also
01:47:40.020 something that comes by way of of inbreeding um it's very common within inbred families and i think
01:47:45.760 it's it yeah you have these like almost obvious screwed up people sitting in this chair warming
01:47:53.680 the seat so that the world can point and go, wait a second, but first you got to get the world to
01:47:58.160 notice. It's an insult when they go, when they go, yep, this is what God created. This man is a
01:48:02.060 testicle. But the thing is, is it can't just be the inbreeding because here's the thing, they
01:48:08.000 support this too. So the Mormons here, reportedly, like they developed theories on genetics that feed
01:48:15.840 into genetics later. Okay. This guy that settled Davis County and started Davis County co-op,
01:48:22.560 i have a really old book on this and he talks about how he was breeding his cattle he was
01:48:27.600 inbreeding them and then he decided that to keep his bloodline pure he was going to inbreed his
01:48:34.180 family and he did and he does to this day and they do not prosecute him for it because he gives them
01:48:39.680 a lot of money they're very rich whoa how do you but what happens to them and they have to all be
01:48:45.660 fully retarded now i i saw a family recently that was just like with the oldest inbreeding family
01:48:50.860 and like you know some place in the south and uh dude was barking like a dog like he was like they
01:48:57.420 were like he goes up to the guy he's like show me where the garden is and the guy goes and he's
01:49:02.220 like show me show me where the garden is and then he starts like waddling over to the garden and he
01:49:05.440 shows in the garden and he's all excited and i'm like oh my god that's crazy so so is this guy's
01:49:10.780 family not not well they're they're they're weird but here's the weird part is they all when we talk
01:49:18.380 about inbreeding in america it gets weird and it always goes back to these pilgrim people this
01:49:25.440 pilgrim society too are we all inbreeding that came from that like is that why they only want
01:49:31.420 mormon blood because they know mormons are like completely saturated here and also we're like a
01:49:38.720 70 percent o positive blood type here and also you know the genetics like in you know they supported
01:49:46.440 the Nazis in the war like they inadvertently did it but they did it and I'm just saying like I'm
01:49:54.240 not saying that there's not issues with all of it okay there's issues on all sides I agree and
01:50:01.980 there's issues on where people come from and what's really going on in Sephardic versus like
01:50:07.780 Ashkenazi and all this whole mix and and taking over like that aside here's the thing I think
01:50:14.280 they know. And I think they know because of 2020 and the grab that they did and the genetics
01:50:19.820 knowledge that they've had for so long. Like they've had this genetic knowledge literally
01:50:24.680 for like that guy that I just told you about, that's old. That's really old before genetics
01:50:30.120 was even whatever, you know, they're just breeding cattle. And so all of this stuff goes back to the
01:50:37.720 thought for me is they know what we all are and it doesn't matter if you didn't have a test for
01:50:44.740 COVID it doesn't matter if you didn't do the jab if you ever had surgery even at birth they do a
01:50:51.800 PKU out of the sole of your foot and and when I showed you these let me show you this one again
01:50:59.420 when I showed you these drawers remember these are supposed to be file drawers okay these look
01:51:05.200 little to me that doesn't look like a file to me that looks small little like just small enough to
01:51:13.240 hold a sample of DNA deposit box have you ever seen a PKU test I I'm a nurse so they look exactly
01:51:21.400 like um a bill like a bill envelope that's how big they are do you think that would fit perfectly
01:51:27.760 in those drawers yeah dude i like i don't know how and i wonder if you find this heidi when you
01:51:36.100 when you come and share this stuff with people are they taken back by like how much i mean when
01:51:41.660 you're talking to us it's like the mormon crazy well no not not crazy it seems like the mormons
01:51:46.940 are the big masked player almost they are look all of these people like if we talk about skull
01:51:55.440 and bones okay if we talk about family lines where the bushes are literally related where we talk
01:52:01.680 about skull and bones only has one other satellite not a different thing it's an actual satellite
01:52:09.420 same chapter same wax seal same everything is here in utah why right well the wrestle the huntington
01:52:18.280 Russell guy, he was Joseph Smith's cousin. And all these very important people are related 110%.
01:52:26.480 And that's why I think, you know, they do this slight little nod for Utah, like Epstein, like
01:52:33.780 Howard Hughes. That's why they're like, make sure my blood is good. That's why they had segregation.
01:52:39.700 You know, they used to say, like, there's a quote from Brigham Young that says,
01:52:43.940 if you find your wife with a black person run a knife through both of them and and do them a
01:52:49.480 favor and spill their blood on the ground they're talking about blood atonement they're talking
01:52:53.140 about all this weird weird stuff but i'm telling you guys like this comes from magic knowledge
01:52:58.980 right master mahon kane this is old as that you know this is very old and so when we talk about
01:53:06.140 this stuff i don't think it's just the mormons i think it's that top one to two percent of all
01:53:12.360 religions and I I've been tracing so I'm going to be doing a history podcast soon Epstein fucked it
01:53:18.400 up like I was almost ready yeah well because everybody jumps and then you jump and so of
01:53:27.060 course when I saw Mormon blood I had to stop for a minute but when you see that and you look at all
01:53:31.880 of these religions just go out of it and you see actually that you know the Mormon line of the
01:53:39.880 mother of joseph smith goes on to be some of the first bankers ever in michigan and they settled
01:53:46.440 pontiac michigan yes i know chief pontiac founded it but settled permanent settlement then they
01:53:53.080 start intermarrying um his son intermarries with native americans and then they get all this land
01:53:58.980 grab because of treaties and then they do the same thing in hawaii and they do the same thing
01:54:04.160 overseas and you see this time and time again and you go holy shit like yeah how much are they
01:54:09.540 infiltrated well they go to the Rothschilds they go to the railroads they go everywhere they're not
01:54:14.980 supposed to be even when I'm trying to do a podcast not about Mormons I'm like why the fuck
01:54:20.040 are you here that's your job Heidi that's your job you've been tasked with this uh this thing
01:54:26.140 and uh I have a feeling there's no pulling yourself away from it look it's we haven't
01:54:30.600 asked her because we we started asking after the last time we had her on well before we do I just
01:54:35.880 want to say one more and we can't open it because it's a can of worms and we have to bring the show
01:54:38.900 for a landing but um i find it interesting that a lot of the guys that are associated with
01:54:43.100 disclosure right now like elizondo and these guys they came out of like the robert bigelow skin
01:54:48.140 walker ranch camp originally and yeah and then they kind of like i don't know pivoted and that
01:54:55.760 was like a thing that would kind of get ridiculed the skin walker ranch so like this is a much more
01:54:59.160 serious endeavor and i think they probably would be um grateful for for less people knowing that
01:55:04.940 that was kind of how they got their start
01:55:06.520 was the Robert Bigelow Skinwalker Ranch
01:55:08.960 situation in Utah. Didn't he say he sold that
01:55:10.820 because it was like too much supernatural stuff
01:55:12.980 going on? I don't know what the hell is going on there.
01:55:15.160 He was scaredy pants, right?
01:55:16.820 Yeah, it's a weird ass spot.
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01:56:01.900 sprinker, because if you're going to talk to yourself for an hour, you might as well publish
01:56:07.080 it, you know, but, um, it's well, and for people that one more thing just before, because this is
01:56:13.000 a clincher. So I want people to understand too, with JP Morgan, um, and how it relates with the
01:56:20.380 lawsuits. And this includes the Mormon church because JP Morgan is still to this day, uh,
01:56:26.640 one of their top 10 investments. Bill Gates is not somebody tagged me in that one on X and I'm
01:56:31.840 like, do you think they're going to leave the STD guy there? No, they're not. So, I mean,
01:56:37.160 he's drugging his wife. It was all nefarious. I love that he's the STD guy now. Right, right. And
01:56:42.700 this guy, Jeff Staley, comes up. Did you hear anything about this, Jeff Staley?
01:56:46.780 I don't think so. He's all over. He's the personal banker, okay, of Epstein, or he was.
01:56:52.220 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. He got in trouble. Okay. Well, then I started researching his family line
01:56:57.220 because that's kind of who I am as a person and that's what I do. So I start going down his family
01:57:02.840 line and what do I find? He is a banker, no big surprise there, that literally worked with Howard
01:57:10.880 Hughes, the other guy, E. Perry Thomas, to open up Las Vegas, infiltrate the Teamsters Union funds
01:57:18.720 and use all of this to basically go forward. And I was like, this can't be the same guy.
01:57:26.340 there's no way I'm looking for it right now and it is it's the same damn person these guys all
01:57:32.600 just play together yeah exactly that's what it is and that's the thing it never ends when I told my
01:57:38.120 mom about it she was like what do you mean and and this editas medicine also infiltrates into
01:57:44.620 HHMI so when we're talking about CRISPR technology it comes out of HHMI when we're talking about
01:57:51.180 editas medicine it connects to hhmi which is howard hughes medical institute and it also connects
01:57:57.460 back to this other guy that worked with e perry thomas in las vegas who was the jp morgan guy's
01:58:04.500 dad it is his dad and so i just couldn't believe it i was like what this is what we keep finding
01:58:11.680 is like all of your favorite names in conspiracy all play together yes a hundred percent and that's
01:58:19.740 definition of conspiracy oh it's hushay yeah yeah yeah and howard hughes obviously he was one of the
01:58:26.580 very first to be completely um obsessed with this mapping of the human blueprint and he put all his
01:58:34.920 money time and effort into it and then it's founded where right here in utah with the human genome
01:58:40.280 project at the alta club um it it's funded by all of these people we're talking about they came here
01:58:47.280 to utah at this is the alta club back then and it's it's very interesting very interesting when
01:58:55.660 we get into all of these startups where their money came from and how it ties together exactly
01:59:01.580 what you said oh the philanthropy at the byu is what you you said put a pin in that from that
01:59:06.280 earlier yes a hundred percent and then you know i just started traveling down family lines because
01:59:12.360 that's mainly what i'll start doing because i'm like hey what what about this what about this
01:59:16.400 And that's how it happens for me.
01:59:18.300 People always say, how do you dig this stuff up?
01:59:20.200 That's how, because I want to know how and why and where that started, like what's going
01:59:26.660 on there.
01:59:27.380 Don't forget we have the genetic capacity to clone dogs.
01:59:31.420 Don't forget Tom Brady did this.
01:59:34.200 Okay.
01:59:35.380 Like, don't think that this can't be done.
01:59:39.020 Yeah.
01:59:39.040 Dolly the sheep.
01:59:39.880 That was back in the, in the what?
01:59:41.220 Eighties or nineties, Dolly the sheep.
01:59:42.640 Like, of course.
01:59:43.140 And that was not the cutting edge of what they were capable of.
01:59:46.500 That was just what they were willing to let us see that long ago.
01:59:49.440 The Reallians say they did it.
01:59:51.360 This weirdo Reall guy.
01:59:52.880 I studied his cult.
01:59:55.980 It aligns completely with the Mormon religion.
02:00:00.720 It's very telling.
02:00:02.800 We've been on that guy for about a year or two.
02:00:04.760 Maybe more than that.
02:00:06.080 Weird.
02:00:06.480 It's wild.
02:00:08.160 Weird, weird.
02:00:09.460 So don't forget, you guys, that this all ties back.
02:00:13.140 straight through and we didn't even get into the satanic really end of it this well that's what i
02:00:16.960 was going to say we have um we have another show coming up in about 15 but i want to extend uh an
02:00:22.920 invite for a part two if you want to no no we should we should have more other mormons on again
02:00:27.220 and then fight with heidi no i think i heard it from the other mormons for a year and then we'll
02:00:33.200 come back well it would have been fine if it was just your show they were so weird that they were
02:00:38.940 like making shows they made like five shows somebody's faith right i mean that's that's it
02:00:43.720 at the end of the day when you're when you're doing um when you're do it on the faith do it
02:00:48.320 on the the argument of the real stuff yeah yeah yeah um heidi as we bring it in for a close uh
02:00:54.460 number one like i said i'd like to offer you uh a a two-parter because i think there's a lot more
02:00:59.980 here that we need to be getting into and um and i feel like as your research is going on you're
02:01:04.680 going to be uncovering a lot more. So, uh, when this is over, you know, you have that link, I
02:01:09.320 would, uh, you know, the door is open to you, pick a day that works for you and let's run it back
02:01:12.980 before we get out of here, Heidi, let's remind everybody where, uh, where they can find your
02:01:17.320 work, your website and everything else. Okay. Awesome. And also to you guys, I've never had
02:01:22.200 you on yet. So, uh, invitation extended. It'd be fun. So it'll be awesome. Yeah, that'll be fun.
02:01:29.200 So I am Heidi love. I am of the unfiltered rise podcast everywhere podcasts are served,
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02:01:39.180 Links to my Patreon, links to other things.
02:01:41.580 I do a medical series with Janet from Deplorable Nation
02:01:44.580 and we go into very strange stuff about medical.
02:01:48.940 So we've done a carnival series
02:01:50.420 about like weird deformities.
02:01:53.380 We've done like our newest one,
02:01:55.540 obviously aligning with Epstein is all about,
02:01:58.160 it's called All About the Blood.
02:02:00.640 And yeah, so it's pretty interesting.
02:02:03.460 Check it out.
02:02:03.880 you'll get a couple extra shows there and hopefully they'll be interesting to you and
02:02:07.940 if you're wondering about that hga video uh right up there at the top of the pin there
02:02:12.880 our old uh murdering friend he talks all about how the mormons uh found their hga so yep very cool
02:02:20.480 yeah heidi you've been crushing it thank you the question lets you go how was your how was your
02:02:25.560 impact with the nurse community because uh i can't talk about it yeah they don't let me talk about it
02:02:31.440 at work i guess my my wife i'm like man like it seems like a like a good avenue like you're a
02:02:39.360 nurse like you have a lot to talk about with these guys but maybe there's just not the the overlap
02:02:43.580 of maybe because it's such a legally i work at the mental institute oh interesting um so they
02:02:51.260 don't want us talking to they don't want anybody to overhear any weird conversations about the news
02:02:57.140 or about conspiracies, because it could mess them up. So they're just like, no, yeah, none of that.
02:03:02.500 So no talking about homunculus at work. It might screw somebody up. Have you ever talked to Dr.
02:03:07.380 Jerry Marzinski? No, not yet. No, I should. All right. You have to. Yeah. I'm sure you'll
02:03:12.160 find his work fascinating. I love it. I know. I know what he does. I do want to talk to him.
02:03:16.040 He's great. So I would like to see that episode. That'd be interesting. Yeah. Awesome. Well,
02:03:20.580 thanks again, guys. I'm glad it's all straightened out to the other guy. Keep it on the information.
02:03:25.860 leave my nose out of it or like how i look or weird stuff also learn to take a joke
02:03:31.600 poor thomas there you go they were making jokes about him too his name's not nice guy about thomas
02:03:37.560 i'm sure he's a super nice guy uh he is it's just like you guys are at odds on a faith thing and
02:03:43.880 that's always going to be difficult to uh to navigate but thank you for coming on i really
02:03:47.820 appreciate it it's good to talk to you again yeah of course awesome thanks again guys until next
02:03:53.040 time uh don't forget to obey submit and comply we'll catch you in a couple minutes
02:03:56.720 and that didn't end the show here we go
02:04:00.640 they bred with daughters of men and they will do it again the end is written in the book
02:04:13.900 in the pages they foreseen
02:04:18.500 Death Squad
02:04:19.620 Death Squad
02:04:23.800 Death Squad
02:04:27.940 Death Squad
02:04:30.960 Never look
02:04:39.760 Death Squad
02:04:41.300 When the last trumpet sounds
02:04:43.380 And the heavens