Nephilim Death Squad - Fabian Socialism & The Technocratic Trap w⧸ Jay Dyer

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00:02:50.780 I have my moon map shirt on.

00:02:52.400 Oh, yeah.

00:02:52.740 Let's focus on that.

00:02:53.400 I resurrected it because the other day I was in the chat of Steven Pokemon from AM Wake Up, and I was screaming at him like a madman about our moon map that he never returned, our topographical map of the moon that we said he could borrow, not keep, and he's since just stopped talking to us.

00:03:10.620 Happy, fair warning to our guest today, Jay Dyer.

00:03:13.060 If we let you borrow something, dude, you've got to give it back.

00:03:15.920 We don't let people have things unless you ask nicely.

00:03:18.180 Jay, before we get into the conversation, where can everybody find your work?

00:03:22.460 What is it all about?

00:03:24.320 You can find my work at my website, mainly, jaysnausis.com.

00:03:28.400 That has all the archive content going back about 10 years, all the lectures, interviews, deep dives on Global Elite Text, and then you can find me on Twitter and Instagram and YouTube under my name, Jay Dyer.

00:03:40.620 I'm all about the – I also write for the Sam Hyde Show, and I host the fourth hour – or host of the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show the last five or six years.

00:03:49.460 Don't know if I will be able to keep doing that, but I'm all about geopolitics, comedy, philosophy, film, and that's what I'm all about.

00:03:59.820 You know, you're a busy guy, Jay, and I appreciate you making some time for us.

00:04:04.240 And we're here to talk about a very important subject, and that is whether or not Hitler was aggressively homosexual, aggressively.

00:04:13.340 But before we even get into that, we have to discuss –

00:04:15.900 Well, wait.

00:04:16.120 I want to know what is going on with Alex Jones.

00:04:18.780 Oh, yeah.

00:04:19.080 That's a good question.

00:04:20.180 He's getting sued for billions of dollars.

00:04:22.020 InfoWars is dead.

00:04:22.820 But then I look, and I still see InfoWars, and I see you there and all these guys.

00:04:26.440 So what exactly is happening?

00:04:28.620 Yeah, so basically it's a long, drawn-out court battle, and it's three different – I think three different lawsuits.

00:04:35.680 So I think they did finally learn that they won't be able to keep the studios.

00:04:41.940 So Alex will continue to go.

00:04:43.160 It's just that InfoWars studios will eventually be seized in the next five days to two weeks.

00:04:48.260 So it went all the way to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court decided that they would not hear it.

00:04:52.320 So they just struck it down as even worthy of hearing.

00:04:55.500 So they didn't even look at it, but it did at least make it that far up.

00:04:59.300 But people think that it's like, oh, how come it's not shut down yet?

00:05:01.960 Well, court cases take years.

00:05:04.040 So that's why.

00:05:05.660 Right.

00:05:05.940 It's a long process, a grueling process.

00:05:08.220 And that sucks to hear, man, because obviously he's built that over how long.

00:05:13.620 We were talking to Matt in the coffee shop, and he was like, dude, I was listening to Alex Jones back when he was talking about Moloch,

00:05:19.460 and he was breaking into – I'm sorry, bohemian growth.

00:05:22.940 I'm so used to saying that now.

00:05:24.020 Freudian slip.

00:05:25.100 But yeah, man.

00:05:27.300 But you can't stop Alex.

00:05:28.840 You can take away his stuff, and you can take away maybe the area that he does it in and yada yada,

00:05:33.740 but you can't stop Alex Jones.

00:05:35.060 Well, let's be careful.

00:05:38.240 Let's be really careful talking about the guy.

00:05:39.940 I mean, I thought we were past that kind of stuff of like weird – I don't even want to talk about it.

00:05:45.140 All right.

00:05:45.460 I want to talk about it.

00:05:46.400 Well, look, I want to lay the groundwork for this because a lot of people are going to ask themselves,

00:05:52.580 why are we talking about Hitler?

00:05:55.800 And those people surely are not on Twitter.

00:05:58.060 And so I want to kind of lay the groundwork and explain to people what has been developing over these last –

00:06:05.440 I was conservatively two years, but certainly more than that.

00:06:08.480 And what's really gained a lot of traction in the last year is this sudden appreciation.

00:06:16.380 And that's probably putting it mildly for Hitler.

00:06:19.700 A lot of things have sort of come to light, things that we didn't understand in World War II.

00:06:24.460 And that's led people to a lot of conclusions about the Nazis, about Hitler.

00:06:28.420 And it's brought us to a really weird place culturally lately.

00:06:31.460 And, Jay, you found yourself kind of in the middle of these discussions.

00:06:34.420 So if you could – can you talk to that a little bit?

00:06:37.440 What's going on?

00:06:38.520 Why are we talking about Hitler?

00:06:39.880 Why are people suddenly thinking that he's based?

00:06:43.140 Yeah, well, I think Kanye had a – Ye had a huge role in kind of popularizing this from a memetic warfare perspective.

00:06:52.060 4chan played a role.

00:06:53.740 So there's a lot of different, you know, outlets, I guess you could say,

00:06:58.160 that kind of made this a talking point in the culture, probably a lot of meme warfare.

00:07:03.580 And then the relaxing of the algorithm in the last couple of years to a degree,

00:07:08.180 which seems to be very selective, has allowed for people to start uploading old speeches, et cetera,

00:07:15.300 from Hitler and AI speeches and all this.

00:07:17.760 And so these reels and clips are just kind of going crazy.

00:07:22.700 One reason for it is also the obvious point that, you know,

00:07:26.040 Zionism has a huge level of control over our government, the Zionist lobby, AIPAC, all that.

00:07:31.760 So that's – there's some truth to the lockdown, the censorship, you know, the things you can't talk about.

00:07:37.980 But then what happens is that people tend to then think, oh, if I've been lied to, then everything's a lie, right?

00:07:44.140 Oh, everything is an illusion.

00:07:46.140 Everything's – and so they get into these sort of really extreme polar opposition positions.

00:07:50.820 And that's a tactic that I think the establishment knows, that humans are kind of creatures of extremes.

00:07:56.680 So they'll go to the opposite pendulum swing, and then they'll adopt –

00:08:00.720 well, if Zionism is – you know, has a huge influence in our government, then the polar opposite must be the solution.

00:08:08.180 And there's a lot of different nuanced, you know, points and takes that qualify a lot of this.

00:08:15.840 And we're going to talk about that, I'm sure.

00:08:17.140 But those are the reasons that I think it's popular.

00:08:20.160 And then also I would be suspicious of Silicon Valley suddenly allowing these things.

00:08:26.220 And the counter narrative is, oh, well, they couldn't stop us.

00:08:29.320 We broke containment.

00:08:30.240 And it's like – I mean, they still censor people.

00:08:33.120 So I'm not sure why you think that it's breaking containment.

00:08:36.060 I would be very suspicious of that, especially since all the people who are the Silicon Valley elites that are subservient to people in the Middle East,

00:08:44.760 are they really just allowing this because they can't stop it?

00:08:48.860 Or are they perhaps allowing it for a certain reason?

00:08:51.840 And that's my concern.

00:08:53.040 I don't know that for sure.

00:08:54.140 I'm speculating.

00:08:54.880 You know, we had NAFO cybercom operations running wild in 2020 when the Russian-Ukraine conflict kicked off.

00:09:04.760 And that kind of died down.

00:09:06.000 So this might be a new angle on the NAFO operation if you're familiar with that.

00:09:12.380 Do you think that the Nazi – this kind of like the Nazi rhetoric, is that the end all of whatever game that we're playing?

00:09:21.660 Because it seems like this like a seesaw game that will go back and forth that get us closer to whatever conclusion we are supposed to end up at.

00:09:32.200 And when you do your research – I don't want to like bury the lead in all this – but when you check out the Nazis and you see what they were into

00:09:37.220 and you see how they were incorporated in this government, all the esoteric things that they were researching and developing.

00:09:43.480 And then you also look at the concerted effort of the left to kind of make – they've made Nazis –

00:09:51.820 they made saying that Nazism is bad almost like synonymous with the way that they've made the Bible look corny.

00:10:00.440 Yeah.

00:10:00.740 Do you understand what I'm saying?

00:10:01.960 I know what you're getting at.

00:10:02.960 It's this idea that they first overused it until the point where it lost its meaning.

00:10:08.520 And then what happened –

00:10:09.020 Now if I say it, if I'm actually like, no, actually, wait a second, guys.

00:10:11.820 These dudes are kind of doing some weird stuff.

00:10:14.500 Now you're a leftist.

00:10:15.280 Now you're – yeah, and I feel almost embarrassed saying it.

00:10:17.160 Yes, but for the other side, it's like when they – you know that I don't care about your booze.

00:10:22.380 I've seen what makes you clap.

00:10:24.740 And the left, who's become so despised by the other side, calls you a Nazi.

00:10:31.680 It's almost like a badge of honor now.

00:10:33.180 So there's a lot of cultural priming that led us to this.

00:10:36.160 And I agree with what, Jay, what you're saying, this idea of the algorithms kind of softening up.

00:10:41.420 And I'm highly suspicious of that because I think it really takes place specifically on X or Twitter.

00:10:48.540 And it seems to be at the hand of Elon Musk.

00:10:52.820 I mean, this is something we talk about on the show a lot.

00:10:56.800 But, Top, you had this hyperviral tweet one time where you post a picture of Joe Biden looking all sleepy.

00:11:03.260 And then you post a picture of Mel Gibson, and he looks jacked.

00:11:07.280 And it says you could either drink adrenochrome, you can hate the Js.

00:11:11.040 Which Way, Western Man?

00:11:12.740 And Elon Musk actually comments on that post.

00:11:16.860 Right, right.

00:11:17.220 And he goes, wow, is Mel Gibson really that buff these days?

00:11:20.740 Now, what we're led to believe – and that turns into a whole debacle.

00:11:23.860 They write articles.

00:11:24.700 Elon actually removes his own comment from that.

00:11:27.760 But it was this really early signifier, in my opinion, that like, hey, we're allowed to talk about this.

00:11:32.880 It was the early Roman salute from Elon.

00:11:35.600 Yeah.

00:11:35.700 And then all downhill from there.

00:11:37.600 But I think it's nefarious.

00:11:40.140 I think that Elon has been putting his finger on the scale.

00:11:44.280 When he bought Twitter, he bought the ability to affect culture on a high degree.

00:11:50.400 And it seems to me that this is the culture that he was hoping to affect or the direction that he was hoping to push us in.

00:11:56.220 Yeah, it could also be a way to keep tabs on everybody who is dissident and exactly what the numbers are and, you know, give people the impression.

00:12:04.920 I'm not saying that people shouldn't speak their mind.

00:12:06.680 But, you know, there were similar types of things going on at the time of Jade Helm.

00:12:12.260 I don't know if you guys remember that.

00:12:13.360 But that was a similar situation where the speculation ended up being that the reason that they admitted that they were doing all these continuity of government drills was about 2012, 13, somewhere in there, 14.

00:12:22.820 And so they wanted to actually track what people were saying online about this idea of, you know, civil unrest and government reaction programs and drills that were being done across multiple states for the possibility of like a civil war imminent collapse.

00:12:37.980 And, of course, all the, you know, patriot hard crowd thought, oh, they're coming.

00:12:44.040 They're going to put us in the U.N. camps.

00:12:45.860 And really all it was was tracking and seeing what the reactions of people were online in mass.

00:12:52.280 So you have to understand that the military, the Pentagon, they watch and study all this very intently.

00:12:57.900 And I don't think that, you know, anybody at that Silicon Valley level, they're not disconnected from that Pentagon, you know, cybercom establishment.

00:13:07.140 They're all tied into the same DARPA style, you know, NSA style networks.

00:13:11.960 Now, granted, there's probably a lot of people in those agencies that would agree and are opposed to the corruption of our system.

00:13:18.580 But you still just can't trust these people.

00:13:21.460 You know, all these Silicon Valley elite people are pretty much known for being very backstabby and very they'll ride the waves.

00:13:28.780 You know what I mean?

00:13:29.120 They'll ride trends.

00:13:30.640 And that doesn't really tell us that they're genuine.

00:13:34.140 They're just kind of riding waves.

00:13:35.380 But the other thing I'll say on that, too, is that the the memeing, which has been studied at a very high level.

00:13:41.520 There's the old there was a study done like 10 years ago at GCHQ, which is the British version of the NSA.

00:13:46.200 And they did a study on meme magic.

00:13:49.000 Talking about how you can speak to the collective unconscious through these archetypal imagery symbols and whatnot.

00:13:57.420 That's kind of a big part of what changing images of man actually talks about in the later the later chapters is engineering and co-opting cultural memes and archetypes and retooling them to give man a new a new worldview and a new paradigm.

00:14:10.300 And so the reason I say that is that when you talk about Hitler, the meme.

00:14:17.040 Now, according to many of the guys that called in, we did probably, I don't know, 15 hours of call in spaces on this in the last several weeks and just caller after caller.

00:14:26.700 Many of them.

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00:15:21.860 Note that the history doesn't even matter to them.

00:15:25.540 It's just totally a symbol, divorced from the reality.

00:15:29.180 Remember the Sam Hyde meme, you know, that Sam Hyde has done all the mass casualty events.

00:15:35.180 And people ask Sam about that, and he's like, yeah, well, the meme actually took on a life of its own.

00:15:38.860 It's like it's not even connected to me anymore.

00:15:40.600 And in the same way, it's a postmodern attitude to where you take a meme, divorce it from its history, and kind of give it your own narrative or your own story.

00:15:49.840 So it's a postmodern will-to-power situation, which actually fits perfectly with Nazism.

00:15:54.360 That's what Alfred Rosenberg did when he crafted the narrative of the Reich.

00:15:59.020 He just kind of made it up wholesale and came up with these ideas like positive Christianity, which would get rid of all the Old Testament elements.

00:16:05.400 It would be a kind of a Gnostic, Marcionite version of Christianity for the Reich.

00:16:10.760 So that's what – they're doing the same thing that Rosenberg did today's tiny mustache man followers.

00:16:17.900 That's a really interesting point because I can see there's like two schools of thought on this.

00:16:23.100 It's like one of them is the database aspect, and they're looking for extremists.

00:16:27.260 And this is for, you know, somebody that's alarmist would say when the Noah Hyde laws finally start to be put into effect, they're going to come for you.

00:16:35.600 They're going to have this backlog of every anti-Semitic thing that you've said.

00:16:37.780 And here in Florida, you know, we had DeSantis passing anti-Semitism laws and all these other things.

00:16:42.620 But then there's this other side of me that looks and goes – I think the Nazi sympathizing is really the point.

00:16:51.600 And that this doesn't end, you know, with a persecution of people who are any Semitic ideology, but that this ends in this resurrection in some way, shape, or form of a modern-day Nazi movement.

00:17:06.540 And the reason that I think that – it's interesting that you just said what you did because I look at Operation Paperclip, and I look at this time frame of like the late 40s, early 50s as being the epicenter for the development of so many programs that are prevalent today.

00:17:23.800 Prevalent today, and we're seeing kind of the fruits.

00:17:25.720 Like you asked, is this the end-all, be-all, right?

00:17:28.520 That's what you said earlier, Top.

00:17:29.680 And it's like it kind of feels like we're in a little bit of an endgame scenario from stuff that was developed way back then when we took a bunch of Nazis out of Germany through Operation Paperclip.

00:17:38.560 We're at the culmination of – we're at the culmination of what MKUltra looked to achieve on like an individual basis.

00:17:46.940 Now we're doing it nationwide, probably worldwide through – we're not going to say it here.

00:17:51.400 And then shortly after with, you know, like Uri Geller and also with – we've done a bunch of work with – on Andrija Puharic, the alien phenomenon, that's also coming to culmination now.

00:18:02.660 But that all started right at like, you know, 47, 48, the implementation of Israel.

00:18:08.440 All this stuff is happening right now.

00:18:10.580 So I'm like, is – are we like fulfilling the Nazi agenda because have these guys ever left?

00:18:16.580 Have they been that deeply entrenched in our shadow government?

00:18:20.140 Who – which way are we going?

00:18:21.840 Right.

00:18:22.160 What do you think about that, Jay?

00:18:25.420 Oh, I think you're muted or something.

00:18:29.880 Another angle on this which is plausible is the idea that since they, you know, have been calling everybody Nazi for so long,

00:18:37.220 they actually need to create that opposition.

00:18:41.060 So you allow it to allow this to kind of build up.

00:18:43.960 And then you've got, you know, kind of an existing pseudo-organic movement.

00:18:49.580 One example of this too would be prison gangs.

00:18:51.940 If you think about the way the prisons are structured and if you listen to all the interviews with people that have been in prisons and super maxes and whatnot.

00:18:58.500 I did a lot of podcasts with Sean Atwood over the years and he's always telling his Arizona prison stories.

00:19:04.480 We've done Sammy the Bull interviews and he's got a bunch of those too.

00:19:08.640 They talk about how it's very segregated and controlled in that way when you kind of divide everybody up into the sort of tribal camps.

00:19:14.900 And I'm not saying that people can't have a concern for their ethnicity and their people groups.

00:19:18.980 That's healthy and that's natural.

00:19:20.440 People should be self-determining.

00:19:22.220 The problem is that when you do this in a polarizing extreme way, you can use this as a technique to break down and destroy civilization.

00:19:30.940 So I think that's the unfortunate situation that we're at, which they put all these pressures on the system of purpose to foment civil unrest with the Podesta plan and with, you know, shutting off my EBT snap cards.

00:19:42.800 That kind of stuff, which I'm going to be out in the streets next week, Doug.

00:19:47.440 So, um, that's right.

00:19:48.820 Uh, we actually, just for the audience, uh, us and Jay are planning on robbing the local, uh, Walmart.

00:19:55.220 And, um, so if you guys are in the area and you're looking to join, listen, guys, if you're not stealing, I'll be signing books as I want, rob the Walmart.

00:20:02.240 If you want to go to two birds, one stone, um, you know, Jay, go ahead.

00:20:07.680 This book talks about that, uh, is this whole idea of crafting a new image, uh, through giving people a new paradigm and allowing people to have a new paradigm.

00:20:15.820 And I think you're right that I don't think that the, the, the, the paperclip faction has totally run everything in our government.

00:20:23.200 I think they were a minority faction.

00:20:25.620 Uh, they were kind of shunted into the GOP for a while.

00:20:29.740 Uh, they didn't have a lot of, uh, power and influence, but there is that faction that that's there that has a very strict, you know, eugenics policy.

00:20:38.160 And I think you could look at this as an example of that, because all the, all the people in this book, the writers of this, they're very influenced by Madame Blavatsky's theosophy and her theosophy was influential on a lot of the SS, you know, Reich type leaders like Himmler.

00:20:52.080 Um, she talks about the root races and then the next, you know, instantiation of a empire that would be the next root race that would, that would evolve.

00:21:00.780 And they kind of co-opted that and said, oh, that's the Teutonic Knights, you know, the Germanic Teutonic Knights.

00:21:06.140 And that's where you get into the occult side of this, which you mentioned, Wernher von Braun, I think, and Paperclip.

00:21:11.140 And some of those guys were, uh, into the occult, but, you know, Himmler explicitly thought he could do this sort of ritual reenactment at different castles in Germany.

00:21:20.360 So he actually was an occultist.

00:21:21.820 Um, I don't know that they all were, and I'm not really seeing any significant evidence that Hitler himself wasn't a cultist.

00:21:27.080 There, there might be evidence of that.

00:21:29.040 Uh, but I mean, there's enough in Mein Kampf, if you've read it, that like, obviously it's not Christian.

00:21:33.920 It should be obvious.

00:21:35.540 That's an interesting thing that's, that's, um, emerged out of this is this idea that, that Hitler himself was Christian or that he had this, uh, sympathy for Christianity or, or Christ himself.

00:21:45.280 Um, earlier you said that it's a, it's a natural thing for an individual to align across like racial lines and things of that nature.

00:21:52.260 Well, what were the, uh, what were the reasons why you'd say that he's not a Christian that you've, that you've noticed?

00:21:57.020 Well, that's, I don't want to bury the lead on that because that's, I think is the, is the, the real meat of the discussion that I want to have today, because I kind of wanted to try to dispel this, this whole Hitler ad and really highlight who he was and what he, what he believed.

00:22:11.400 But before we go there, I'm interested in the, the sort of the lead up to this cultural phenomenon that we find ourselves in.

00:22:17.580 Now, you said that it's natural to sort of align one along their own racial lines, right?

00:22:23.020 That that's a natural thing and there's nothing wrong with that.

00:22:25.620 Um, but that when it's kind of orchestrated within these extreme circumstances, it results in really terrible things.

00:22:32.400 Do you think that the suppression of that natural urge, that natural inclination was organic?

00:22:40.460 Because whether or not it was organic or orchestrated, we certainly did go through that, right?

00:22:44.080 Like, let's say white people, for example, it is, uh, you can't express any sort of like white power or white alignment.

00:22:51.400 Uh, it's very problematic to do that.

00:22:54.360 It's okay for other races to do that.

00:22:56.080 But then you see this sort of weaponization against white people where it's like, um, white people cannot be the recipients or the victims of racism, let's say.

00:23:04.100 And they change the definitions of racism.

00:23:06.200 There's a lot of changing the definitions, changing the language around things in order to justify.

00:23:10.180 And, and also I think make it so that a, a baseline conversation about the fundamentals that we're operating in can't happen.

00:23:18.000 If you change the definitions of everything that we simply can't have a discussion, because now we're just arguing about what these words mean, you know, at their root.

00:23:25.100 Um, so from my perspective, it looks like that was part of this.

00:23:30.020 You had to go through that in order to get to this.

00:23:33.480 Um, what do you think, Jay?

00:23:34.820 Is that an organic thing or is this just a byproduct?

00:23:37.760 Is this a byproduct of an organic event or was that an orchestrated thing?

00:23:41.080 No, it's absolutely orchestrated.

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00:24:40.280 I read the Practical Idealism by Count Kalergi, and Kalergi's book was presented to the Royal Society Atlanticist Establishment.

00:24:51.860 They said, yes, we'll use this in concert with Lionel Curtis's plan for a kind of a socialist federation approach to how we would run the West.

00:25:00.540 So when you look at Canada, when you look at the UK, they're really just about 20 years ahead of us in this exact same plan that they have for us in all the West.

00:25:09.860 And that includes the weapons of mass migration, you know, open demographic warfare side of it, which proves partly what you're arguing here, what you're asking about.

00:25:19.960 The demographic warfare is 100% real.

00:25:22.360 So Kalergi's book says that we will basically create a giant homunculus blob of people and only the there will only be a, how does he put it, a Middle Eastern people's supremacy.

00:25:37.820 He says that he says that in the book.

00:25:39.840 Yeah.

00:25:40.080 So that was presented.

00:25:41.040 They said, yeah, we'll go with this plan.

00:25:42.960 They combined it with other sort of more Fabian socialist models of how to integrate the West.

00:25:48.760 And so you have to understand Fabian socialism and in tandem with this, because all the Fabian socialist elite said, we've got to get rid of the Western white male, especially the Christian white male.

00:25:58.340 He's the number one enemy.

00:25:59.880 Bernard Shaw, you know, Bertrand Russell, they all said this.

00:26:03.140 And they said for the UK and Europe, import Islam for the US import, you know, from south of the border.

00:26:09.300 So they're very explicit when you read these texts.

00:26:12.220 You're not supposed to read these texts.

00:26:13.500 You're not supposed to talk about these texts.

00:26:15.200 They're all public.

00:26:16.100 They're all, you can find the PDFs on, you know, archive.org.

00:26:19.680 So it's all very real.

00:26:22.520 That's one side of it.

00:26:23.700 And then you're talking about, you know, to what degree all that was organic.

00:26:28.200 It was 100% planned and strategized to inculcate critical race theory, DEI, all the anti-white stuff throughout university, throughout the education system.

00:26:38.700 In fact, I was told in grad school, because I wanted to go on and get my PhD, one of my graduate advisors, my history professor advisor said, I'm going to just go ahead and tell you that you're a straight white male.

00:26:49.400 You're not going to be welcomed in graduate academia.

00:26:52.520 Wait, wait, wait, was he giving you a forward warning?

00:26:56.740 Or was he saying, like, this in his own, like, opinion, like he thought it was justified?

00:27:02.920 No, he was just saying the realities in the, like, late 2000s of higher level academia.

00:27:09.420 And I'm just using that as a test case, right, of, like, the purposeful, intentional decision to denigrate and not want in higher level graduate academia, straight white males, especially in the humanities, right?

00:27:24.240 I mean, it might not be the same if you're going into STEM stuff and engineering computers or whatever.

00:27:28.540 But for humanities, like philosophy and that kind of stuff, which is what I was studying in literature and history, no, of course, they don't.

00:27:35.860 They're very explicit about that.

00:27:37.180 So, he himself was a white male.

00:27:42.380 I don't think, I'm not sure he was actually straight.

00:27:45.320 So, that might have been why he was able to get his PhD.

00:27:50.820 He had to, you know, touch a few butts or something.

00:27:54.580 Oh, you messed up, Jay.

00:27:56.020 Let me ask you something real quick.

00:27:58.500 I just left.

00:27:59.200 I'm not touching no butts.

00:28:00.160 I'm not touching no butts.

00:28:01.280 Now, people can touch my butts, but I'm not touching.

00:28:04.520 That's open permission for the audience who's listening.

00:28:06.840 No, that is not.

00:28:07.680 And remember that.

00:28:08.040 When we have Jay here in the studio, you know.

00:28:10.900 That cost extra, actually.

00:28:12.160 We discussed this pre-show.

00:28:13.420 I want to ask you something.

00:28:14.280 It's a slight departure.

00:28:15.340 You mentioned.

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00:28:23.240 You mentioned the Muslim supremacy idea.

00:28:29.180 And this is the thing that I, like, argue with my mother about constantly because she's like, have you seen these muzzies?

00:28:33.720 Look at what they're doing.

00:28:34.520 They're taking over.

00:28:35.340 Yada, yada.

00:28:35.720 And I'm just kind of like, I look at it and I'm like, they're not really somebody that I, like, I understand the plan.

00:28:41.580 I'm not so concerned with them, per se, because I think that they're just, like, manufactured.

00:28:47.420 They seem like a tool of something else.

00:28:49.960 Certainly is happening.

00:28:51.360 But what do you make of the propaganda around it that's been ramped up?

00:28:54.500 Like, a lot of this anti-Muslim propaganda feels like 2001, 2002.

00:28:58.420 That's exactly what I was going to say.

00:28:59.420 It feels like 9-11.

00:29:00.180 It makes me a little worried because after that we did a 20-year war.

00:29:05.100 What are you seeing from your side of things on that end?

00:29:08.720 That's a great question.

00:29:09.540 This is really complex because there's truth and lies mixed up in that, right?

00:29:14.160 Because I still believe, you know, that the big nine event is not what we were told.

00:29:20.220 So when you understand kind of the real history of the Mujahideen and bin Laden and all that,

00:29:25.880 which I just lectured through a couple books on that recently on my channel,

00:29:28.720 if you want to go deep into the history and, like, the CIA relationship between them,

00:29:32.720 Mossad as well, by the way, it's not just the CIA, but, you know,

00:29:35.320 they just recently admitted very openly, very candidly,

00:29:38.080 that Jolani was an ally to Israel and to the CIA in Timber Sycamore,

00:29:43.960 especially all the way up until the overthrow of Assad.

00:29:46.020 That was all done at the behest of the CIA and Mossad working in tandem.

00:29:49.620 And they welcomed Jolani, formerly head of al-Qaeda or al-Nusra in Syria.

00:29:54.700 Now he's a hero.

00:29:55.560 So, again, going back to that long-term partnership between the Mujahideen and the CIA,

00:30:00.920 that's still in play today.

00:30:02.840 And it's very transparent when you actually kind of read about it.

00:30:05.920 So on the one hand, I can be nuanced and say,

00:30:08.400 no, I don't accept the official story of the big nine event.

00:30:11.440 And what we were told about the threat of Islam was a lie.

00:30:16.400 However, the mass importation of these people is the real story.

00:30:21.200 That's the real threat, not because of supposed terror cells everywhere,

00:30:26.360 but because of the demographic warfare.

00:30:29.820 And the Islamic stuff was more pronounced in the UK and Europe than it is here.

00:30:35.000 And I've been to London.

00:30:36.880 I've seen it firsthand.

00:30:37.820 Like, my wife went to London in 2003 or 2004.

00:30:41.840 And then we went and I gave a lecture in 2019.

00:30:45.660 And she was describing just how radically, you know, Islamicized it was.

00:30:51.900 So I don't think it's so much the threat of the, you know, bombs going off or whatever.

00:30:57.360 And a lot of those are provocateur, you know, entrapment operations,

00:31:00.720 especially like the Christmas bomber, the shoe bomber, all that stuff.

00:31:04.640 So that is a controlled narrative, I think.

00:31:07.780 But the real concern is the demographic replacement.

00:31:11.380 And although, as I said, that was primarily Islam in the UK and in Europe,

00:31:16.860 well, I'm starting to see more and more Islamic replacement and importation in the West.

00:31:23.620 For example, in Nashville, we had a huge importation of Somalis and Muslims in the last 10 years,

00:31:28.760 which I've never even seen that in Nashville before.

00:31:31.680 Now you see mosques, mosques everywhere going up.

00:31:34.520 And you can look into Saudi Arabia.

00:31:36.100 Saudi Arabia in the last, this was in Max Blumenthal's book,

00:31:38.680 who's a big, you know, critic of the official narratives.

00:31:43.200 And he's a socialist, so I have plenty of criticisms of him.

00:31:45.880 But his book on the real use of Islam in the West is pretty good,

00:31:51.740 management of savagery.

00:31:53.260 At least the first half of the book is really good.

00:31:54.720 But he points out that the last 20 years, the Saudis have put billions,

00:31:59.500 something like tens of billions of dollars into Islamic centers,

00:32:03.420 Islamic education, and building mosques throughout America.

00:32:06.220 That's all by design.

00:32:07.080 That's when you see these blonde chick influencers constantly talking about the Koran.

00:32:11.680 Dude, that's all paid for.

00:32:12.920 I'm convinced of that.

00:32:13.920 So it's a real thing, but it's not the terror thing, like they say.

00:32:18.500 But it's a demographic thing.

00:32:20.000 That's my take on it.

00:32:20.860 And everybody has to read the Milner Fabian conspiracy book.

00:32:24.860 It's so good because it's not just about, oh, you won't talk about Jews.

00:32:28.760 You just talk about the Fabians.

00:32:30.080 No, no, it's all the same thing.

00:32:31.760 And they work together with the Zionists, the anti-white crowd,

00:32:35.640 because all the Fabians were anti-white.

00:32:37.280 And utopian socialism that Moses Hess is the father of,

00:32:40.580 it's the same thing as Fabian socialism.

00:32:42.100 They're the same.

00:32:43.160 It's the same as Bolshevism.

00:32:44.380 It's just different strategies about how to roll it out.

00:32:46.200 So, and they're very candid about how to use Islam as a tool.

00:32:50.320 Many people call it the broom of Zionism or the broom of Judaism.

00:32:54.000 And that's the best way to put it.

00:32:55.160 And they're both Talmudic.

00:32:56.340 If you watch my long talk with the Hodge twins,

00:32:59.200 as soon as I got there, they were like,

00:33:00.540 you think Islam based?

00:33:02.100 Is Islam based?

00:33:03.160 I'm like, no, it's not based.

00:33:04.320 We throw a child brides.

00:33:05.440 How's that, bitch?

00:33:06.100 You don't think Islam based?

00:33:07.920 You don't think Islam based?

00:33:10.220 They can't help it because they've been to jail.

00:33:12.280 So it's, you know.

00:33:12.900 That's what happens.

00:33:13.520 You go to jail, you come out, you're Muslim.

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00:34:00.580 All right.

00:34:01.020 So the Fabians, the Fabians, my mistake.

00:34:02.900 I want to talk about this idea a little bit about the southern border, the porous southern

00:34:08.480 border, the legislation that got us there.

00:34:10.320 But I think the sort of the cultural leveraging that got us or the cultural manipulation, it

00:34:16.440 seems to me like we were kind of dog walked down this path to create this porous southern

00:34:22.800 border situation so that it could result in exactly what you're describing here, Jay.

00:34:27.360 And now we find ourselves in this place where it's not even just the left.

00:34:31.320 Like a lot of people are really upset about the whole ICE thing and people getting deported.

00:34:35.180 And, you know, apparently things are getting messy.

00:34:36.920 Some people who are actually legal citizens are allegedly getting deported.

00:34:39.920 I don't know how much truth is to that.

00:34:41.860 But what's clear is the consensus that's created is one of like, oh, my God, this is horrific.

00:34:47.680 What about the and I think that emotional ploy, by the way, of like, what about the families?

00:34:51.440 What about the individuals?

00:34:52.840 What about the children and their parents and all this other stuff was exactly the same emotional

00:34:57.920 leverage that got us here in the first place?

00:34:59.660 They manipulated low information, high emotion voters into voting for the very scenario that

00:35:05.920 we find ourselves in.

00:35:07.460 Is this what happened?

00:35:08.420 And does this look it looks to me like it does play directly into what you're describing?

00:35:12.760 Absolutely.

00:35:13.420 Yeah, you're spot on.

00:35:14.440 Are we off of YouTube?

00:35:15.240 Like we can be more candid now?

00:35:17.040 Yeah, dude, say whatever you want.

00:35:18.380 You can call the racist slurs out.

00:35:19.520 Did you guys see that clip of Arnold at the climate change event when the Pope was blessing

00:35:23.880 the ice cube?

00:35:25.340 Schwarzenegg?

00:35:26.100 Yeah.

00:35:26.920 No, I didn't see that.

00:35:27.780 You got to see this because believe it or not, Arnold was like the greatest explainer,

00:35:33.440 expositor of how the propaganda that you're talking about works.

00:35:36.500 And it's a great clip.

00:35:37.700 I'll send it to you guys.

00:35:38.460 He says, I don't know if he came on after the Pope or before the Pope, but he gets up

00:35:42.880 and he goes, he says, forgive my shitty impersonation of Arnold, but I have to do it.

00:35:48.740 He says, it's too fun not to do it.

00:35:50.720 He says, we couldn't convince anyone of the climate, the problem with climate.

00:35:55.580 And then what we did, we took the child and we put the gas mask on the child and he, you

00:36:00.960 know, he couldn't breathe.

00:36:02.500 And he was, he couldn't breathe.

00:36:04.280 And then everyone believed in the climate.

00:36:06.120 And so we got a kid in a gas mask to breathe and then it pulled on the heartstrings and

00:36:13.240 then everybody believes in climate change.

00:36:14.600 So he's admitting it's lies.

00:36:17.060 And that's exactly what they do with, remember that the AOC is going down there because Trump's

00:36:22.240 putting kids in cages and everybody fell for that.

00:36:24.860 Yeah.

00:36:24.880 And she's like crying at the cage, right at the, at the fence and everything.

00:36:28.160 It's all, so, so when I see these things, it was that it was that when I see those things,

00:36:38.560 man, these, these appeals to emotion, especially using children.

00:36:41.200 I mean, I know it kind of sounds like cold, but it's like, as soon as you start waving

00:36:44.700 children in front of me, um, I stopped caring, it's not that I stopped caring, but I become

00:36:49.220 highly skeptical because I recognize this is, this is an emotional leverage that you're,

00:36:53.300 you're trying to, to roll out.

00:36:54.540 I'm just going to go ahead.

00:36:55.300 I don't know.

00:36:56.280 I want to go ahead off, but I'm looking at my, my hair.

00:36:58.700 Well, Jay's got cool hair, dude.

00:37:00.260 And I can't like, I can't, I gotta get this going, please.

00:37:03.760 Jay continue while I fix.

00:37:04.780 You know, the Gulf war thing with, uh, the Egyptian ambassador's daughter and the GOP brought

00:37:10.540 her in as like, they tried to say that she was, uh, uh, she wasn't even there in Saddam's,

00:37:16.580 uh, you know, incubator factories, that was again, child propaganda.

00:37:23.860 Um, when they were trying to overthrow Assad back in the day, I remember like 2014, we were

00:37:27.700 right.

00:37:27.940 15, we were writing articles about, uh, dusty boy.

00:37:31.440 And that was this picture of a dusty boy, uh, child that had dust all over him.

00:37:37.340 And, and Assad had done this to his own people and all of that was just fake guys propaganda.

00:37:42.280 So, um, yeah, man, that's how it works.

00:37:45.460 Uh, it's, it's once you, anytime you see that kind of child propaganda rolling out and they

00:37:50.440 did, remember they did the same thing with Greta, right?

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00:38:50.120 We must all listen to the child, you know, when she's, how dare you?

00:38:55.780 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:38:58.600 That's just the most basic retard level propaganda, but that shit works, dude.

00:39:03.500 It does.

00:39:04.300 Well, okay.

00:39:04.860 I want to go someplace with this.

00:39:06.720 And I know it's a joke and it's a meme, but I want to have a serious discussion about

00:39:11.240 it.

00:39:11.380 This idea of like repeal the 19th has become a meme.

00:39:13.540 And it's like before everybody recoils, I want to say like, you know, women are, men

00:39:19.640 deal with systems and logic and things of that nature.

00:39:22.940 Women are typically emotional, empathetic and nurturing, right?

00:39:26.660 And so when you have all of these women voting and you wonder, well, who are these low information,

00:39:33.760 high emotion voters, the ones that are susceptible to narratives like children in cages and separating

00:39:40.440 mothers from children at the border and things like that, am I wrong in saying that it is

00:39:45.460 predominantly women, male feminists and women who are, who are falling for this sort of

00:39:50.520 thing?

00:39:50.960 And then these people go out into the world and they affect legislation.

00:39:54.900 They affect American politics and they create the very thing that, that now they find themselves,

00:39:59.780 you know, crying about because ICE is out in force and it's doing all these things.

00:40:03.220 And it seems to be lost on many of them that like this thing that has resulted in this,

00:40:09.120 and you could say what you want about ICE and, and, you know, I think that this was an orchestrated

00:40:13.300 thing to get to this point, you know, maybe you get some of these cities under martial law,

00:40:16.880 who knows what we'll see.

00:40:18.280 But this is like, you have a mass amounts of military aged men who are displaced, who have

00:40:26.880 no jobs.

00:40:27.680 Many of them are saying things like we were promised jobs and homes.

00:40:31.320 If we came over here, who's doing the promising, I don't know.

00:40:33.820 It's like a complete landmine.

00:40:35.080 Like where I came from, uh, in Brooklyn, I used to live in a place called Garrison beach

00:40:39.580 and they filled, uh, this field up with migrant tents.

00:40:43.460 And all it takes is for you to cut the funding to them, which I like cut federal snap funding

00:40:47.720 or whatever they're, they're giving them.

00:40:49.100 And it's like, it's, it's a literal landmine.

00:40:51.120 It's just pulling the pin on a grenade.

00:40:52.680 It's a time bomb.

00:40:53.420 Yeah.

00:40:53.680 Yeah.

00:40:53.840 It's, it's genius.

00:40:54.840 It is genius.

00:40:55.540 But these women that are, that are crying about it.

00:40:57.340 And I just say that because you see predominantly women like in tears talking about this thing,

00:41:00.500 you know, AOC at the cages and everything.

00:41:02.240 And it's like, dude, the, you got to drop the emotion.

00:41:06.160 That sort of behavior is exactly what led to this being, you know, possible in the first

00:41:10.220 place.

00:41:10.460 And when you have this big of a mess and you have to, you know, release ice, it's going

00:41:15.480 to be messy.

00:41:16.080 It's not going to be like this clean.

00:41:17.220 They're like people, good people, normal people are going to get wrapped up in this

00:41:20.140 and it's going to be horrifying, but it's like, I don't see the, they need to go.

00:41:23.860 They need to go.

00:41:24.560 So, um, I don't know this whole repeal the 19th thing.

00:41:28.360 It's like, if they're so easily manipulated, should they be able to vote?

00:41:32.740 Is that, is that a crazy question?

00:41:36.600 Thanks there.

00:41:37.400 So first of all, uh, the, um, the changing image of man vote, for example, backs up what

00:41:42.720 you're saying, because they were saying in 1982, they would have to do everything they

00:41:45.580 could to D, uh, to emasculate the men in the West.

00:41:49.180 So that is everything from putting soy in everything to, you know, toxic food and water,

00:41:55.720 soy slop that we all eat, fake food, uh, to the cultural engineering, the brainwashing

00:42:02.440 in the schools to make young boys, you know, feel bad about being boys.

00:42:07.260 All of that's part of this plan to allow the country to move into this sort of quasi socialist

00:42:15.700 or socialist technocratic scenario.

00:42:17.920 So the more that you can get people, um, thinking that they're going to be on the dole

00:42:21.380 with universal basic income, which is like a hundred year old plan, you know, HG Wells

00:42:25.600 writes about the version Russell wrote about it.

00:42:27.680 You've got technocrats a hundred years ago saying that that's the plan.

00:42:30.360 Um, I think a good scenario for that is an economic collapse, right?

00:42:34.680 But you're right too, that when you bring all these people in with all these promises

00:42:38.020 and then there's nothing, that's a recipe for planned, uh, you know, agitation and civil

00:42:45.520 unrest.

00:42:46.220 And I think that the more they try to polarize people with a lot of this propaganda, I think

00:42:50.740 what they want is an eventual clash of some kind.

00:42:53.020 And then perhaps a disintegration of the West, a lot of books, a lot of writers have been saying

00:42:57.120 that because to, you got to get rid of the existing system and bring in the new system.

00:43:01.800 And the best way that they typically do that is through blowing up the old system.

00:43:05.640 How exactly that'll happen.

00:43:06.720 I don't know.

00:43:07.140 I know the dollar will eventually die.

00:43:08.500 I don't think there's anything behind the fiat currency.

00:43:10.780 That's going to eventually just dwindle away.

00:43:13.020 All fiat currencies eventually die.

00:43:14.880 So you combine economic with the cultural chaos, with the importation of all these, you know,

00:43:19.860 people that don't integrate, whatever that means, uh, it's a recipe for collapse and

00:43:25.120 disaster.

00:43:27.600 And, um, what was it?

00:43:28.940 That last question was about, oh, the, the women voting.

00:43:31.140 I mean, voting is right to vote voting as itself as a scam.

00:43:34.840 Uh, and it always has been in my view.

00:43:36.680 So I don't really think that, I think that's more of a politicized issue that people think

00:43:41.200 they have this right and that they have all this power through voting.

00:43:43.840 I think only at a local level does voting actually do anything.

00:43:46.440 So, um, although I do not think that even, I mean, if that's the origins of feminism is,

00:43:52.160 is suffrage.

00:43:53.100 Uh, you know, the, the, the whole feminist movement comes out of that.

00:43:55.920 So the whole idea itself is kind of retarded, um, because women aren't meant to be primarily

00:44:01.860 involved in the political and economic business sphere.

00:44:06.540 That doesn't mean they can't have their own, you know, side mom hustles or whatever, but

00:44:12.200 like Proverbs 31 woman.

00:44:14.100 Okay.

00:44:14.340 Yeah.

00:44:14.580 But like, that's not, uh, everybody being a boss bitch CEO, right?

00:44:18.160 That's it.

00:44:18.720 So it's like, we can have moms with side hustles.

00:44:21.340 If you have like a crocheting thing or you're knitting and you want to sell that or you want

00:44:24.580 to sell it only, but no girl bossing.

00:44:26.700 We're done with girl bossing.

00:44:28.060 And I agree with that.

00:44:29.400 The woman didn't even want this, uh, in like, I know it was like 19, 18 or something.

00:44:33.980 Yeah.

00:44:34.100 It was like, but when, uh, when Woodrow Wilson saw that there would be like a sizable movement

00:44:38.540 that moved his side, then, you know, the propaganda started to go towards that.

00:44:42.320 And there you go.

00:44:43.020 They kind of got forced upon it.

00:44:44.240 Next thing you know, you get taxable income.

00:44:46.320 State gets to raise your kid.

00:44:47.820 This is good for the propaganda machine.

00:44:49.700 Um, now we're full blown only fence.

00:44:51.320 One thing, by the way, real quick, I don't mean to cut you off.

00:44:53.740 Just one last point on this that I think nobody ever touches on hardly is there's this great

00:44:58.080 psych, uh, psychology paper called, uh, virtuous victimhood and the dark triad traits.

00:45:03.700 And it's about, they did a study on, you don't even have to read the whole study.

00:45:07.900 Just read the first five pages of it.

00:45:09.160 Kind of summarize the whole thing.

00:45:10.140 They did a study on in societies based around emotions and egalitarian, egalitarianism or

00:45:16.560 equalitarianism.

00:45:17.560 What happens is it eventually becomes obsessed with everybody having to feel good.

00:45:24.980 And so the only thing that gets promoted or only the only thing that gets people ahead

00:45:28.260 is the people who can capitalize on being oppressed.

00:45:31.320 And that's why this whole system is focused around oppression dynamics and whoever can prove

00:45:37.860 or try to argue or pretend to be the most oppressed and changing images of man, for example,

00:45:44.120 says we're going to raise women to all these positions of power, not because they care about

00:45:48.080 women, but because it will be a better means of moving the society into this socialist shithole

00:45:56.000 that we're going into.

00:45:56.820 And so they, they intentionally raise the minorities and women are part of the minorities, but also

00:46:02.240 is all the other, uh, you know, flavors of the rainbow people groups that are out there.

00:46:07.380 They raise them and give them a narrative.

00:46:09.300 And what happens in that scenario isn't that everybody gets like built up and some sort of

00:46:14.160 equalitarian stuff.

00:46:15.240 What happens is that the most cunning people that are narcissistic, psychopathic creeps that

00:46:21.600 hence the dark triad traits, they actually figure out how to capitalize on the oppression

00:46:26.200 dynamic and they like compete to be the most oppressed, to get the most social attention,

00:46:33.820 uh, you know, social traction, energy, et cetera, focus, attention and money.

00:46:37.960 And it actually hurts the people who are actually oppressed.

00:46:40.540 So it's a total like nightmare scam system.

00:46:44.480 And when you look back at like the, you know, Bolshevik or the Soviet or the communist regimes,

00:46:48.780 it's exactly how they function.

00:46:50.920 So they function the exact same way.

00:46:52.480 And you have to keep in mind that when it's voting or any of this stuff, like the CIA has

00:46:56.220 mastered regime change in other countries.

00:46:58.760 They know absolutely perfectly how to target through stages of revolution.

00:47:05.660 Um, you can look at something like Greg Palos is a famous classic piece on the IMF, uh, shock

00:47:10.780 doctor, the IMF revolution, how they stage these, the bankers know how to stage these in phases

00:47:16.200 and rigging the voting, for example, as part of how they do that in other countries, they

00:47:21.580 started all the way back in, you know, the removal of Mosadek.

00:47:24.900 I did a whole podcast on the CIA operations in the, in Iran to remove Mosadek, but the

00:47:30.480 Cheyenne, and it includes, uh, manipulating the voting system.

00:47:34.300 So voting can be integrated into this overall color revolution regime change operation.

00:47:39.520 And I think, I don't know exactly how they're going to do it, but I think in the U S we

00:47:43.240 are in a slower rollout of a regime change operation.

00:47:47.480 I don't mean to get rid of Trump.

00:47:49.600 I'm talking about like to totally change the country.

00:47:52.240 Yeah.

00:47:53.200 Yeah.

00:47:53.620 You know, you said that, uh, places like Canada are like 20 years ahead of us and I would

00:47:57.840 agree with that, but it is like a slow roll.

00:47:59.920 We're going through like really slow phases.

00:48:01.700 So slow that it almost can appear to the average person to be organic and, you know, really

00:48:07.700 paying attention or you're as well read as you are.

00:48:09.260 I'm, I'm nowhere near.

00:48:10.480 I think that's the idea of it.

00:48:11.560 Like what has to look, it's a frog getting boiled, right?

00:48:14.500 Yeah.

00:48:14.700 It's, and it's, it's so crazy because people like us, it's kind of our job to pay attention

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00:49:27.180 It's like a correct standpoint.

00:49:28.920 And I'm like, I can't even really remember the last, like past the last six months because

00:49:33.200 it's been such a weird slow boil of event after event that it's like, there are so many

00:49:37.360 things, so much proof in front of your face.

00:49:40.440 If you don't see it now, I don't even know how to put these events together for you.

00:49:44.880 They've done a masterful job of creating like these separate realities, you know, the sort

00:49:50.600 of like, you know, little reality echo chambers that you can subscribe to and live in and you

00:49:55.620 can see the world through this lens.

00:49:57.900 And to be fair, you know, to give the other side or whatever other side, but I'm not, I

00:50:01.980 don't believe in, you know, aligning yourself along political lines.

00:50:05.080 But if you were to be, let's say, leftist and you were to look at things through their

00:50:10.400 lens, it can adapt and it can like, you know, it would make sense.

00:50:15.240 The things around you would make sense through that lens enough that you would feel comfortable

00:50:18.580 staying there.

00:50:19.460 And it's the same thing for the right.

00:50:20.840 Like if you're conservative or anything there and you look through that lens, it's going

00:50:23.380 to be the same thing.

00:50:23.960 So they've done a really great job of creating these, these sort of like silos or, you know,

00:50:29.540 little, little, what would you call it?

00:50:32.300 What do you put sheep into?

00:50:33.340 Like an echo chamber.

00:50:35.080 How, you know, where it's like we can have compartmentalized pens, stables, compartmentalized

00:50:40.700 stables.

00:50:41.380 It's wild that they've done it to the degree that they have.

00:50:44.940 And I agree with you.

00:50:45.880 We are like in, in what would be, I forgot who coined the term, but the idea of like oppression

00:50:50.260 Olympics.

00:50:50.620 And that's your currency, you know, in these, in these times is, is how oppressed you are.

00:50:57.060 And I know we've seen a lot of comedy make fun of that sort of thing, but it's true.

00:51:01.500 But now we're, we're like eclipsing that to, uh, to a certain point.

00:51:05.320 And we're reaching this, uh, all right.

00:51:07.820 So here's, here's a weird example.

00:51:09.540 Um, I went to a event for my wife's job, my wife, my wife, they wanted all the men to

00:51:15.240 dress like homosexuals.

00:51:16.780 Oh, that's right.

00:51:17.660 They wanted them to dress in all white, all like all white cocktail party.

00:51:20.540 I said, I certainly will not.

00:51:21.600 No offense, Jay, beautiful blazer.

00:51:22.920 But I'm like, I'm going to wear black pants.

00:51:24.560 At least I can't need it.

00:51:26.080 It's cream.

00:51:27.540 It's cream.

00:51:28.300 Yeah.

00:51:28.500 It's cream.

00:51:28.980 I mean, I know I called it a faggot jacket, but I was like kidding.

00:51:31.980 I mean, it's a beautiful faggot jacket and I don't think there's anything wrong.

00:51:34.460 Well, here's, here's the problem.

00:51:35.520 It's a Don Johnson.

00:51:36.660 That's what it's supposed to be.

00:51:37.660 Everybody calm down.

00:51:38.640 Um, so they want us to dress this, which is very nice.

00:51:43.560 It's fine.

00:51:44.340 But the first thing that they do is they call out some, uh, guy from like the Pacific islands

00:51:49.640 and he's doing like the haka, which I'm like, I'm extremely aware that I'm like, you

00:51:53.620 are summoning your ancient entities.

00:51:55.820 And this is the entity of war actually.

00:51:57.760 Yeah.

00:51:58.120 And you're in America and you're yelling at me going and swinging this thing.

00:52:03.600 And all the white women, I'm like, isn't this so great?

00:52:05.520 Cause what you pointed out is it was like they, they, uh, demasculated.

00:52:08.820 No, well, they asked me to first.

00:52:10.420 You asked me, I absolutely will not.

00:52:12.360 I said, Jay, I'm wearing dark pants.

00:52:14.040 At least you're not going to see any, there's no bulges here.

00:52:16.600 We're going to be, we're keeping it nice.

00:52:19.000 And, and, you know, it's going to be kosher.

00:52:21.040 Yeah.

00:52:21.440 Um, and then, then you have a guy come in and try to demasculate me and I'm like, yeah,

00:52:25.760 this is like one plus one.

00:52:27.060 And they've done it subconsciously.

00:52:29.120 And the result of that made me almost feel like, you know what?

00:52:33.080 Hitler.

00:52:33.840 Right.

00:52:34.080 As I'm watching the guy, I'm like, wouldn't be such a bad idea.

00:52:38.640 You want me to show up in all white?

00:52:40.040 I'm going to show up in an SS uniform.

00:52:41.160 That's the logical conclusion.

00:52:42.800 Even though I know, like I know better.

00:52:45.460 That's a really funny thing though.

00:52:46.820 Emasculate the men and then have the alpha male who's summoning his ancestor spirits.

00:52:51.400 He's got no shirt on and he's just yelling at me.

00:52:54.740 I love it.

00:52:55.340 I'm like, dude, there's just no way.

00:52:56.700 That's very funny.

00:52:57.300 Like I got a gun on me right now.

00:52:59.180 There's no way right here.

00:53:00.820 I know.

00:53:01.000 I don't know.

00:53:03.380 It's when you see these sorts of things and you can see it really on display in women's

00:53:09.500 entertainment.

00:53:09.920 That's something that I talk about a lot.

00:53:11.060 These archetypes, these kind of like the gay couple, the kid with the two fathers or the

00:53:20.480 lovable trans character, they really only exist.

00:53:24.060 And this is the same thing we're talking about the voting system and whether or not it's low

00:53:27.460 information, high emotional voters that are voting for a southern border that's porous.

00:53:32.700 All the ideology is also fed in through women.

00:53:35.700 You know what I mean?

00:53:36.060 So it's like when you look at women.

00:53:37.220 Yeah, but all it's done is aggravated young men.

00:53:40.440 Yes.

00:53:40.920 And so this whole Hitler appreciation, and I think this is probably a good segue, then

00:53:44.000 this Hitler appreciation is born out of a disdain for this culture that we've been subjected

00:53:49.560 to for some time.

00:53:52.000 Somebody says that I, oh, it's Nancy.

00:53:53.760 He goes, you know what, Hitler?

00:53:54.940 I mean, don't use that word.

00:53:56.020 You know what, Hitler?

00:53:57.020 Yeah.

00:53:57.240 So let's get into this conversation.

00:54:00.360 This is really what I wanted to discuss, this mischaracterization of Hitler by culture

00:54:05.720 right now on X, whether it's the Groypers or whatever, and how they have this caricature

00:54:13.500 of Hitler, who he is, this idol of theirs really is what he's become.

00:54:19.040 What are they claiming Hitler is, and what was he really?

00:54:22.820 What are the ways in which we're missing the mark here?

00:54:27.240 Oh, you're muted, buddy.

00:54:31.080 I must, when I touched that microphone, it muted.

00:54:33.740 So yeah, so the claim is that because they figured out in 1930s Germany that, you know,

00:54:40.080 Jewish banking elites and industrialists had deracinated and bankrupted the Weimar Republic.

00:54:49.760 Shout out, by the way, Jay, to Europa, right?

00:54:52.440 I mean, Europa is like a huge part of that.

00:54:54.460 That documentary to me is very suspect.

00:54:57.800 I was watching it.

00:54:58.500 It's 10 hours of MKUltra-ing you on Weimar and the Bolsheviks and Trotsky and all these

00:55:03.980 different things.

00:55:05.040 And then, you know, by the end of it, you're left with this glowing reverence for Hitler.

00:55:09.680 Yeah.

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00:56:10.160 I think maybe there was, I can't remember if that's the documentary, there was one that

00:56:16.300 was going around like even 10 years ago.

00:56:18.080 It might be a different documentary or I can't remember, but yeah, I mean.

00:56:22.140 I think it was the same one, but it just like experiences resurgence.

00:56:25.440 Yeah.

00:56:25.600 The idea is, okay, we've got a guy who's going to stand up against the banking elite and he's

00:56:32.800 going to, you know, rid Europe to save white people of these, you know, toxic elements of

00:56:41.020 usury and international finance and all that.

00:56:44.340 And I mean, I remember back in like 2006 and seven, I started reading pretty heavily about

00:56:51.880 anti-Zionist stuff.

00:56:53.000 I read books exposing the Talmud and I was like, well, maybe I should check out, see what,

00:56:57.300 you know, tiny mustache man says himself.

00:56:59.200 So I bought Mein Kampf.

00:57:00.820 I read most of it, a good portion of it.

00:57:03.380 I read all of David Duke's, My Awakening.

00:57:06.220 I read all of Francis Parker Yaki's Imperium.

00:57:08.540 It's like all 700 pages of that.

00:57:10.620 I read Spangler.

00:57:11.400 So I read a lot of these sort of far right peoples and found areas where I agreed and

00:57:17.560 disagreed.

00:57:18.220 But I noticed pretty quickly, even when I was less interested in Christianity back at

00:57:24.640 that time, that, you know, there's not really much Christianity in Mein Kampf, for example.

00:57:29.860 If you read through it, he will talk about the dangers of international usury, international

00:57:36.800 Freemasonry, international Zionism, all those things that I would agree critiquing.

00:57:41.740 But then the solution is we need to revive this kind of a pagan imperium, right?

00:57:46.000 That's ultimately, I think, what it ends up being.

00:57:48.580 People debate whether Hitler was agnostic or had some sort of a loose kind of perennialist

00:57:54.420 idea about who God was or kind of a syncretist idea.

00:57:57.740 I think if we look at the influences, you have Baron von Sebattendorf, the Thule Society,

00:58:04.000 theosophy, those are all very esoteric and sort of Gnostic branches of occult philosophy

00:58:11.240 and Eastern Hindu influence philosophy that had quite a bit of influence on at least we

00:58:17.620 know for sure, like I said, Himmler and Rosenberg, but perhaps Hitler as well, because you'll

00:58:21.200 find these elements within Mein Kampf where he says things like the real original sin is

00:58:25.840 race mixing.

00:58:27.400 And I mean, whatever you think about that, that's not what original sin is in the book

00:58:32.520 of Genesis, right?

00:58:33.900 He says things like Christianity is too intolerant of the other religions, for example, pagan

00:58:40.660 religions and pagan altars.

00:58:42.060 And so because it has this desire to get rid of the pagan altars and to set up Christian

00:58:46.320 altars, he says that's too Judaic.

00:58:49.000 So there's very much an influence of the higher critical school of Julius Wellhausen and these,

00:58:56.660 you know, I don't know if you know what the documentary hypothesis is, but that's where

00:59:01.360 you get JEPD, which is taught in all the, you know, liberal seminaries, universities that

00:59:07.200 the Bible isn't really inspired.

00:59:08.860 It's just kind of written by these different, the priest class, the Yahweh's class, the Elohim

00:59:14.920 class, the Deuteronomist class of ancient Jews.

00:59:19.400 And so the Bible's all kind of just pieced together varying traditions.

00:59:23.760 There's not a cohesive single theology that unites the Old and the New Testament.

00:59:28.080 That higher critical approach of Julius Wellhausen, he himself was just a liberal German.

00:59:32.660 He said, we have to get rid of all the Judaic elements within Christianity.

00:59:36.400 Well, when you get to Hitler and especially in elements of Mein Kampf and when you get

00:59:40.260 to Rosenberg, they're very explicit that, yeah, let's purge the Reich's Christianity.

00:59:45.820 We'll have positive Christianity.

00:59:47.020 It'll be amenable to the Reich.

00:59:49.620 We can have some of the pagans and you can have positive Christianity, but whatever is

00:59:53.360 Judaic Christianity has to be gotten rid of.

00:59:55.200 But that's really, I mean, you can't have Jesus without the Old Testament.

00:59:58.520 You can't have, you know, he's the Lamb of God.

01:00:00.080 What does that mean?

01:00:00.760 Well, if I don't know what Passover is and Exodus, I'm not going to know what the Lamb of God

01:00:03.720 is, so it's a revival of an ancient heresy called Marcionism or Gnosticism, which says

01:00:11.100 the God of the Old Testament is this other kind of God, and then Jesus can kind of be

01:00:15.300 crafted into, you know, a symbol or an image of an amenable philosophy to the Reich.

01:00:21.720 So as an Orthodox Christian, I don't have a problem with Christian nations and Christian

01:00:27.380 Imperium, that's the old Byzantine Orthodox Christian view, but it's not crafted to biological

01:00:35.420 determinism.

01:00:36.340 And I think that's one of the key elements where I would disagree with that whole perspective

01:00:39.280 is that Hilarionism and the Teutonic perspective or whatever is this idea that blood and soil

01:00:45.660 is kind of the root of the religion.

01:00:48.340 That's political, but it politicizes the religion to make it a tool of the empire.

01:00:52.540 Whereas in Orthodox Christianity, the empire has to confess one faith, and we don't put

01:00:57.980 politics first, we put politics downstream of theology.

01:01:02.600 When you look at Hitler and especially the admiration surrounding him today, there's a

01:01:06.460 lot of like shallow kind of takes where, you know, people will say things like Hitler was

01:01:12.200 Christian or Hitler was Catholic or he was Catholic adjacent because he, you know, he did that

01:01:17.200 overlap with the church.

01:01:18.500 Well, can I just say something?

01:01:20.040 Because you said something at the very beginning of this, and it's a theory that kind of just

01:01:24.160 popped up.

01:01:24.800 I think just in a Prometheus lens, he's been floating about the idea that Eve partook in

01:01:31.080 some sort of sexual deviancy with the serpent in the garden, which is what got her kicked

01:01:35.040 out.

01:01:35.680 And when you said that about Hitler saying the original sin is race mixing, for some reason

01:01:42.880 that just kind of like struck me.

01:01:45.180 Do you know if he believed that?

01:01:47.340 Like, did he think that?

01:01:49.300 No, that's, that's, you tend to see that in Christian identity movements.

01:01:53.460 And believe it or not, that's actually from a Kabbalistic text.

01:01:56.540 That's more of like a Jewish, I think it's in the Zohar.

01:02:00.680 But that comes out of the Talmud.

01:02:02.580 It's nothing to do with the, with the actual biblical texts.

01:02:05.120 And they try to come up with this idea in the Christian identity circles, which is a bunch

01:02:08.960 of feds that, oh, when it, when Jesus said, you know, you're, you're of your father, the

01:02:13.840 devil, that that's an actual literal seed that, that, that, that Satan spawned his offspring

01:02:19.160 who are the modern Jews and all that.

01:02:21.060 But no, that has nothing to do with the, it's a spiritual seed.

01:02:24.620 So everybody who's born of Adam is a spiritual son of the devil.

01:02:28.560 And that's why baptism makes you a son of God in our view.

01:02:31.340 So you have to be integrated into the covenant to no longer be a spiritual son of the devil.

01:02:36.020 It's not anything to do with biological offspring per se.

01:02:40.540 But you can find that in Judaic mysticism in terms of Lilith and the Kabbalah.

01:02:45.720 So, uh, what Hitler is doing is kind of taking, uh, some of the Judaic approaches from the

01:02:52.900 Talmud and kind of giving it more of a Teutonic bent of his own, but I didn't detect anything.

01:02:58.820 And just because Hitler's tolerant of Christianity, uh, you know, in, in his book, uh, in Mein Kampf

01:03:06.500 or whatever, that doesn't mean that he's actually Christian.

01:03:08.580 You know what I mean?

01:03:09.280 It's like, you can have, there's plenty, plenty of world leaders that are pagans that are tolerant

01:03:13.820 of Christianity.

01:03:14.380 That doesn't make you a Christian.

01:03:15.800 I've, I've never seen any evidence that he was Catholic just because they had certain

01:03:19.040 geopolitical alliances with the papacy for certain, uh, uh, specific events.

01:03:24.660 That doesn't mean that he was a Catholic.

01:03:27.760 It's funny because the idea that, um, he had issues with Christianity because it was intolerant

01:03:32.820 of other religions, uh, is like, you know, the way that I understand things is, uh, these,

01:03:39.920 these pagan pantheons, you know, I, I subscribe, uh, maybe like a guarantee.

01:03:44.380 Kind of an idea where like these entities that these pagans are worshiping and, you know,

01:03:50.800 you name it, it doesn't matter which one are real spiritual entities, but they, their nature

01:03:56.100 is, uh, horribly misunderstood by the people that are worshiping them.

01:03:59.400 And these are either the fallen angels themselves or, you know, disembodied spirits or their

01:04:04.620 offspring or what have you, but they're all in alignment with this spirit of rebellion.

01:04:09.260 Um, and so it's, it's, uh, it's kind of a no shit Sherlock when you say like, oh, Christianity,

01:04:17.740 uh, isn't tolerant of these pagan ideologies.

01:04:20.120 It's like, yeah.

01:04:21.020 I mean, if you wanted to put it in rudimentary terms, it's because the things that they're

01:04:24.120 worshiping are demonic in, in, in their very nature.

01:04:27.360 And so obviously.

01:04:28.440 By the way, we actually have a good person here to ask this question too.

01:04:30.860 Um, cause we've, I've asked almost everybody, but, uh, David just got baptized on Sunday.

01:04:36.340 Um, what does that mean in your opinion, in the Orthodox, uh, tradition, what does that

01:04:42.720 mean and why should we do it?

01:04:45.080 Yeah.

01:04:45.520 I mean, Orthodox Christianity, we would look at acts to, you know, 38, 39 where Peter says,

01:04:50.460 repent, be baptized for the remission of sins.

01:04:52.340 And immediately after that, they have an actual, you know, water baptism, you know, Titus three

01:04:57.160 says, uh, that it's the washing of the labor of regeneration for us to labor is the font.

01:05:02.300 Um, all the early, early churches and reserve architecture had, you know, full on baptismal

01:05:07.960 fonts where people would be baptized into the triune God.

01:05:11.080 Jesus says, you know, you baptize the name of the father, son, Holy spirit.

01:05:13.900 So we would see that as a Trinitarian confession.

01:05:16.860 Um, and that's what puts you into covenant with God.

01:05:20.480 Uh, you know, Galatians three talks about those that are in Christ are, are those that

01:05:25.220 are the seed of Abraham.

01:05:26.020 So the promises to the Jews, especially Genesis 12, 15, 17, 22, those Abrahamic covenant promises

01:05:32.080 are expanded to the Gentiles when the Messiah came.

01:05:35.800 And instead of circumcision, which was a, you know, bloody sort of primitive, right.

01:05:40.860 Uh, God instituted baptism for the nations, because that's a much easier, simpler means

01:05:46.040 of coming into the covenant than just males only being, uh, you know, having their fortune

01:05:51.360 removed, which is by the way, is a sign of original sin.

01:05:54.200 And that's the purpose of it, but Paul says in Colossians that baptism is the reality that

01:05:59.640 replaces the symbology and the typology of that of circumcision.

01:06:03.300 So circumcision was a type and baptism is the reality, which fulfills the type.

01:06:08.540 So we don't believe that baptism is merely a symbolic ritual, but that it actually affects

01:06:14.440 the thing that is happening because the old Testament rituals and rites were symbolic and

01:06:19.560 the new Testament rites that Jesus institutes actually bring about that change.

01:06:23.940 So that's the Orthodox view.

01:06:24.840 Dude, I'm pumped that it's, it's water baptism and not circumcision.

01:06:29.560 I mean, 35 years old, they were going to put me in front of the church like that and snip

01:06:33.720 off my foreskin.

01:06:34.520 That'd have been rough.

01:06:35.620 Um, so I wonder your thoughts on this because, you know, I have this, this theory that, um,

01:06:41.900 a lot of what was happening, the iconography surrounding Hitler in particular was that of a particular

01:06:49.040 entity, right?

01:06:50.400 And I know like Himmler was into whatever he was into and there's all this idea of like,

01:06:54.400 uh, you know, these Germanic tribes, these Germanic pagan tribes and then, um, Arians.

01:07:00.220 And if you look at Blavatsky's beliefs on, on what Arians were, it gets even stranger.

01:07:05.540 Right.

01:07:05.940 And I look around at all the iconography surrounding Hitler and it looks to be that of specifically

01:07:11.200 Zeus.

01:07:11.820 I mean, you have, uh, the Zeppelin tribune fairgrounds or tribune grounds.

01:07:16.300 I think I add the word fair in there where he's giving his speeches from some of his

01:07:20.040 most, you know, iconic based Hitler speeches are given from this, this fairground.

01:07:25.980 And it designed after the temple of Zeus that's found in Turkey, uh, Turkey being, you know,

01:07:33.240 modern day Turkey being ancient, uh, Pergamum, is it Pergamum?

01:07:38.120 And, um, and this temple is brought to the Berlin museum.

01:07:43.400 And when Hitler, uh, you know, hires this guy, I forget what his name is to design, um,

01:07:49.280 the guy goes to the Berlin museum and he takes, you know, all of his inspiration from the temple

01:07:54.160 of Zeus.

01:07:54.800 And I think they even moved, there's rumors that they move stones from it and incorporated

01:07:59.240 them into the build.

01:08:00.200 So he's giving his speeches from the temple of Zeus, you know, some homage to it.

01:08:06.040 Maybe some parts of it are still there.

01:08:07.580 Um, the Eagle being associated with Zeus, it's like the number one animal.

01:08:12.920 I mean, Zeus transmuted himself into a number of things.

01:08:16.540 I think a goose or a swan was one of them where he, you know, raped some chick as a bird.

01:08:21.640 Um, but you know, uh, an Eagle was one of the most associated animals with Zeus.

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01:08:58.400 So you're talking about the SS uniforms, the Eagle, the lightning bolts, the, I'm looking

01:09:03.400 at all of this and I'm going, this is not a guy who has, um, you know, what would you

01:09:09.100 call it?

01:09:09.820 Christian adjacent worldviews or ideology.

01:09:12.760 This is a guy who is steeped in paganism.

01:09:15.380 I guess the only question would be, is Hitler an unknowing, uh, participant in this sort of

01:09:22.100 pagan theater that he's surrounded by, uh, while his, you know, constituents are engaging

01:09:27.700 in, in all this occult practice.

01:09:29.180 And, you know, you have never ending amounts of unconfirmable, but still compelling conspiracy

01:09:34.820 theories surrounding right question with, you know, these Vimanas and things of that

01:09:39.520 nature that come from ancient India and, and whether or not they had these bell shaped

01:09:43.280 UFOs and the list just goes on and on and on to bet.

01:09:46.960 But, but is it Hitler has plausible deniability in all of this?

01:09:51.360 He just didn't know.

01:09:52.280 He was so wrapped up in the liberation or the supposed liberation of his people that he

01:09:55.540 didn't realize what his constituents were doing.

01:09:57.520 Or is Hitler a willing participant in all of this?

01:10:00.500 By the way, the guys on Pervitin, which is effectively methamphetamine.

01:10:05.400 We talked to one of our favorite guests, Dr. Jerry Marzinski, clinical psychologist who

01:10:09.720 deals with schizophrenic patients for like 35 years.

01:10:12.480 He said the number one drug associated with displaying signs of schizophrenia, which he

01:10:17.180 has now come to the conclusion is a spiritual disposition that you're being influenced and

01:10:21.920 oppressed by spirits outside of your own self.

01:10:24.100 He says methamphetamine is the number one thing that will kick that door open and give

01:10:28.040 those spirits access to you.

01:10:29.280 And it becomes very difficult to close them.

01:10:30.660 So you've got a guy on meth standing at the altar.

01:10:34.040 Well, I mean, even, even before he was like, uh, on meth, there's a story from, I think

01:10:39.300 when he was in the war, World War I.

01:10:40.840 His sister, I actually have this pulled up here.

01:10:42.980 So this is one of these things.

01:10:44.960 Um, his sister, Paula writes a, a sort of a manuscript for a magazine.

01:10:51.460 I think it was a 15 page manuscript.

01:10:53.940 And within it, she talks about, you know, her brother and there's this little snippet

01:10:58.640 where she talks about him, uh, giving in or, or taking guidance from a voice.

01:11:03.780 You know, you can call it intuition or otherwise he believed it was like the voice of God.

01:11:07.600 He called it providence.

01:11:08.540 And then there's this lore and it's hard to confirm it that kind of builds Hitler up.

01:11:14.200 And it's this idea that like this voice is divinely guiding him, even to the extent where

01:11:20.200 he has this inclination at one point from the voice to step to the side as an incoming

01:11:24.260 missile, right?

01:11:25.480 Lance.

01:11:25.880 And it takes out the, the homies that he's hanging out with.

01:11:28.920 And he just so happens to have sidestepped it just time.

01:11:32.040 So, you know, further bolstering the lore, the sort of cryptic lore of Hitler.

01:11:36.900 Um, it, you start to look at this and it's anecdotal, albeit, and there's a lot of plausible

01:11:41.680 deniability and ways to kind of squirm out of it.

01:11:43.780 But it looks to me like this is not a guy who, uh, is an unknowing participant in this.

01:11:49.700 It seems to me like this is something he is fascinated by and is engaging with.

01:11:56.060 Yeah.

01:11:56.620 Again, that's, that is a good question.

01:11:58.760 I mean, there, there does seem to be these kinds of perennialist, uh, undertones that I've

01:12:03.480 seen in Mein Kampf, but I'm certainly, I'm not a historian of World War II.

01:12:07.060 I've just read several books on it and I look at, you know, the ethos of, of the mythology

01:12:12.380 that Rosenberg crafted, and it's definitely a return to the idea of, you know, pagan Rome,

01:12:17.860 uh, something like that.

01:12:18.900 And, you know, Rome just kind of adopted the same pantheon that the Greeks had.

01:12:23.000 So I could definitely see that, uh, you know, that Zeus element that you talked about.

01:12:26.120 That's definitely, definitely there.

01:12:27.780 Zeus obviously isn't the same as the biblical deity.

01:12:30.840 So once you understand that, you know, Christianity has to be, uh, exclusion is because Christ said

01:12:36.460 on the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the father, but, but by me.

01:12:39.260 So you can't have, you know, like Pope Francis and Leo say all the religion and all the paths

01:12:44.440 going to take you to the, to the one God.

01:12:47.280 Um, and, you know, Hitler also tried to make alliances with Islam as well.

01:12:52.620 Uh, there, if you look up his, um, meetings with, uh, Amin al-Husani, who was the British

01:12:59.940 intelligence operative, that was the grand imam of Jerusalem.

01:13:04.260 That was a British spy who was placed there to kind of have this continual, uh, backdoor

01:13:09.600 discussion with Hitler throughout these periods, as well as the Royal society meeting with

01:13:14.320 Ribbentrop, uh, consistently throughout, throughout that time.

01:13:17.400 Keep in mind too, that Blavatsky and Theosophy was also promoted by the Rothschilds, right?

01:13:23.060 The Fabian society and all that, that's getting a lot of Rothschild money.

01:13:25.800 And that's where you get Theosophy.

01:13:29.200 Madame Blavatsky was a Fabian socialist.

01:13:30.680 So she was talking to a lot of the KGB, uh, people like Rorick and others.

01:13:37.020 Um, she would go and have these meetings with the ascended masters and all this kind of stuff,

01:13:41.720 which I'm not saying she wasn't contacting demons, but Dr.

01:13:46.200 Richard Spence is a really good, uh, historian on a lot of the stuff.

01:13:49.320 Um, we did an interview on, uh, secret agent 666, which is about Crowley's work with British

01:13:55.980 intelligence.

01:13:56.420 And he wrote another essay, uh, about how her ascended masters might've also been, uh, her,

01:14:02.900 some of her handlers.

01:14:03.660 So spy handlers, in other words, so that there's this espionage element that's important to

01:14:08.620 understand as well, uh, because whether it's the Reich or whether it's the Fabian socialists

01:14:14.660 or whether it's the Bolsheviks, many of them were into the occult.

01:14:17.520 Um, Gleb Bokiai is another famous Bolshevik who was an outright sort of straight up Satanist

01:14:23.000 eyes wide shut kind of guy.

01:14:24.880 He was having eyes wide shut orgies.

01:14:26.800 So that's, there's also Pink Swastika.

01:14:28.880 I don't know if you've heard of that book, but that's, that's the, uh, um, Skittles,

01:14:33.240 stuff going on amongst some of the SS, uh, which is, what is it?

01:14:37.240 Wait, wait, what do you mean?

01:14:38.040 The Skittles stuff?

01:14:38.760 You're talking about the jacket stuff?

01:14:40.460 I don't know.

01:14:41.140 About, yeah, gay stuff.

01:14:42.980 Oh, they're doing gay.

01:14:43.940 Yeah.

01:14:44.200 I mean, that's the rumor.

01:14:45.420 I mean, that people, there's these rumors that, that Hitler himself was a homosexual.

01:14:49.000 And I wonder, what do you make of that?

01:14:51.280 And what do you make of the idea that he was a Rothschild?

01:14:53.880 It's, it's interesting.

01:14:54.600 I mean, you just touched on this idea of Blavatsky, uh, talking to her ascended masters, I guess,

01:14:59.860 whoever David, David, yeah, but, uh, it,

01:15:03.240 it was possibly her handlers as well.

01:15:05.800 And then that leads into-

01:15:06.780 Voice to skull technology?

01:15:07.500 Yeah, yeah, because all that stuff is patented right at the same time.

01:15:10.440 Yeah.

01:15:11.140 Uh, I had, like, dental tooth implants, different MKUltra techniques are, are patented around,

01:15:16.180 like, the 1950s.

01:15:16.700 So for sure they have some working before they patent it.

01:15:19.960 It's very, it gets very confusing on what is, uh, supernatural, extraterrestrial, and what

01:15:24.900 is just government influence doing things and saying it.

01:15:28.140 I love the idea that everything that David Icke is talking about actually was just some

01:15:33.220 spooks.

01:15:33.740 We like David Icke.

01:15:34.540 I like David Icke, but I just, he's, well, number one, he's very grumpy lately.

01:15:38.300 Uh, and number two, I just like, it's a fundamental question that I have for him, which is like,

01:15:43.260 you know, so much of this in his own admission comes from channeling these through a Kundalini

01:15:47.220 awakening, uh, ascended.

01:15:48.840 What's that, like butt stuff, right?

01:15:49.860 His butt stuff, yeah, you get, because that's how the Kundalini starts in the butt, and then

01:15:53.900 if you keep it there long enough, it moves north, and then you have an awakening, and,

01:15:57.760 and so, um, and then he, and he, and he channels these ascended Atlantean masters, and then

01:16:02.560 they tell him all this stuff, and I'm like, fun stuff, a lot of what you're saying, really

01:16:05.980 interesting, really compelling, I can see what you're talking about.

01:16:08.420 Have you ever considered that they lied to you?

01:16:10.800 Cool.

01:16:11.620 Dude, he.

01:16:12.260 Call Ian Carroll a faggot.

01:16:13.600 So it's like, dude, I don't, you know, that whole thing is really, I love that idea, she

01:16:19.160 thinks it's an ascended Atlantean masters, really, it's spooks, shooting lasers at her

01:16:24.000 head, that's fantastic.

01:16:25.560 Um, why not all, all of these things?

01:16:27.460 Why not all of these things?

01:16:28.320 What, what do you think about this idea, though, that Hitler himself was, was it Rothschild?

01:16:32.160 Yeah, what if the ascended masters are just like catty gay demons?

01:16:36.880 Well, that's what I kind of suspect is the case, dog.

01:16:39.720 I think that, like, yeah, like, what if they lie, right?

01:16:42.500 What if it's lying gay dudes that are just ascended, like, gay spirits?

01:16:47.220 Honestly, I, I think that that's what all this is, where they're like, Jesus is going

01:16:50.560 to come back as a plagating, wearing, like, blue spandex.

01:16:53.720 I was like, what if you're talking to somebody that's just gay?

01:16:55.700 Yo, you know what's crazy, by the way, though, that guy that you're talking about, did he

01:16:58.840 block you?

01:16:59.720 No, but I'm a big fan.

01:17:00.980 He blocked me!

01:17:01.400 I'm a big fan.

01:17:02.160 I'm like, I hope you keep more of this shit, because I like it.

01:17:04.780 That guy, I talked about him on The Raven, and, and I never even interacted with him,

01:17:08.660 dog.

01:17:08.880 Dog, somehow it got to him that I talked about him, what, yesterday morning, and he's

01:17:13.600 blocked me, and now I don't have access to engaging with his content anymore, but I still

01:17:17.200 get to see it, because the way Twitter works, but yeah, dude, I think you're right on the

01:17:21.960 money is, like, this, this, it's a simple question, because if I heard a voice, and I

01:17:28.300 wasn't, like, overwhelmingly, oh, good, all right, good, well, you deserve it.

01:17:31.540 I don't deserve it, dude, I was just, I was just saying it was gay, that, that, if I had

01:17:38.380 an experience with what I felt was, was God, then maybe that would, but that's not even

01:17:43.060 what David Icke is claiming.

01:17:44.060 He's like, no, dude, these are just ascended Atlantean masters, and I'm like,

01:17:47.340 And you're not wondering if they're lying to you, dude.

01:17:53.320 You're not, I mean, it's, it's, and it's, you know, how, how long have we experienced

01:17:58.000 this thing where it's like, they'll tell you a tremendous amount of truth, and then

01:18:00.560 some really fundamental, really important lies about the nature of things, and that's

01:18:04.180 where everything deviates.

01:18:06.020 Well, they're actually saying this Changing Image of the Man book, right, so that the

01:18:09.400 religion of the future that's coming will include channeling of entities and spirits

01:18:15.780 to get information about how to conduct, like, our future government.

01:18:21.300 I mean, we showed it on, uh, that episode of Alex, but here, here's a chart, and you

01:18:26.660 can see right here, it's like, yeah, just channel the, channel the spirits.

01:18:31.040 This is like, oh, yeah, graduate level next to it.

01:18:34.000 Yeah, right, graduate level.

01:18:37.900 That's interesting.

01:18:38.960 One of our, one of our, like, uh, topics of, uh, exploration is the telepathy tapes, and

01:18:45.720 that seemed like a primer for, uh, channeling, or at least, like, I mean, they're calling it

01:18:50.920 telepathy, but realistically, it is kind of like, it's like a bunch of autistic kids telling

01:18:54.940 us how to run our government.

01:18:55.960 There, everyone comes back with the same message of, like, you know, there's going to be a global

01:18:59.200 catastrophe, whatever they're saying about the, uh, what's that called?

01:19:02.780 Polar shift.

01:19:03.300 The intergalactic federation.

01:19:04.820 Oh, galactic federation of homosexuality.

01:19:06.780 Uh, and by the way, for the audience, go ahead.

01:19:10.040 No, I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:19:11.620 I was just gonna say, for the audience, we're gonna have on Pastor Joe and Franco on the show

01:19:15.740 soon, I'm actually talking to, and we're text buddies now.

01:19:18.180 Oh, cool.

01:19:18.600 And, um, and he is, uh, one of the pastors that worked on the telepathy tapes, and he

01:19:23.340 said they cut out a tremendous amount of footage, and all of that footage had one thing in common,

01:19:27.840 it was the children talking about Jesus Christ.

01:19:30.100 And I'm not saying that they were talking to the Jesus Christ, if they were talking to

01:19:32.880 some demon posing as a Pleiadian, you know, demon Christ, Jesus Christ, something like

01:19:37.780 that, I don't know, but it's interesting to me that, what's her name?

01:19:40.860 Um, the chick who, who made the whole, whatever her name is, she's a lesbian, um, it's interesting

01:19:47.980 to me that she, you know, removed all of that from the story, even though this guy worked

01:19:53.380 on it, you know, and there was all this content surrounding that particular topic.

01:19:56.900 Well, there were a lot of little, uh, tidbits, like, uh, the Indian kid was claiming to be

01:20:02.300 in contact with some of these, like, ancient deities of their Hindu religion, and the mother

01:20:06.820 kind of wanted to, like, wisely, kind of dissuaded him from connecting more with this.

01:20:12.880 Don't talk to those things, dude.

01:20:13.300 Just don't talk to those guys, that's not a good look.

01:20:15.520 But there's something there, there's something that, it immediately raised alarm bells, because

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01:20:52.000 You're talking about that's going to be coming into the fold.

01:20:54.720 That's what it's going to be all about.

01:20:56.260 Yeah.

01:20:56.480 It's some sort of telepathic communication or channeling.

01:21:01.100 It's channeling.

01:21:01.960 Every time it's the Inead, it's the Egyptian Inead, it's this, it's that.

01:21:05.120 Again, it's the Pleiadians.

01:21:06.200 Shout out to the Pleiadians.

01:21:07.960 But yeah, I mean, that's where we're going.

01:21:11.220 You guys should reach out and do an interview with Dr. Richard Spence because he knows a

01:21:15.480 lot about the espionage angle of Blavatsky and Crowley.

01:21:20.340 His book, Secret Agent 666, is really, really good on all that.

01:21:23.660 And he knows how to tie it into the occult side of spying and all that, too.

01:21:27.700 Okay, cool.

01:21:29.600 I got him here.

01:21:30.100 I'm going to save this tab.

01:21:31.260 Yeah, it's a huge part of where we're going.

01:21:35.020 I was saying on the show that I was doing the other morning where it's like, I think these

01:21:37.860 encounters used to omit Christ in very many ways because they've been going on for a really

01:21:43.600 long time.

01:21:44.800 But I think, especially now, Christian nationalism ties heavily into this discussion, especially

01:21:50.020 when it comes to the whole Hitler admiration thing.

01:21:51.920 But at the very least, what you could say is there's been this awareness and this gearing

01:21:55.600 towards the American consciousness towards Christ.

01:21:58.340 And I think there's some parsing out that needs to be done.

01:22:01.980 We're in strange territory for sure.

01:22:04.380 And I think it relates like it's a one-to-one correlation of what's happening now between

01:22:09.360 the idea of bringing Hitler back in this fantastical view, Nick Fuentes gaining the prominence.

01:22:18.580 I think that the prominence that he does deserve, he shouldn't have been canceled the way he

01:22:22.120 does, but it's no surprise that he is now moving the way he is now, especially after

01:22:27.120 Charlie Kirk's death.

01:22:28.220 So, Charlie Kirk dies.

01:22:30.000 There's this resurgence of what I can only explain as like Christian nationalism that's

01:22:36.140 kind of like peaking in the forefront.

01:22:38.040 They're doing, you know, their big megachurch thing at his memorial or funeral.

01:22:41.780 At the same time, Nick Fuentes is sort of taking the, he's taking the baton and moving in a

01:22:49.480 different direction of whatever Charlie was doing.

01:22:51.940 Maybe, I don't even know.

01:22:53.140 Well, it's weird because that, you know, this Christian nationalism that is emerging seems

01:22:56.540 to be one that is like spiteful.

01:22:59.340 Like it can get easily mixed up.

01:23:01.280 Yeah, it's birthed out of hatred for like the other side, which is not necessarily, I don't

01:23:07.580 think that that's the direction that we should be going.

01:23:09.520 And I think a lot of people would be subscribing to this Christian nationalism, not out of,

01:23:13.220 you know, submission to God and this acceptance of Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, but

01:23:19.800 instead as a way to stick it to the other side that we've been, you know.

01:23:25.820 And this is specifically hard to navigate because I think this show, you know, even though it

01:23:30.460 has like some colorful language or whatever, what we're trying to do is lead people to Christ

01:23:34.080 and tell people about God.

01:23:35.360 And in a way, when this comes up, this sort of this flavor of Christian nationalism, I

01:23:40.540 kind of don't want people to go towards this.

01:23:42.340 So now I'm like working against my own endeavors here.

01:23:45.140 Yeah.

01:23:45.560 Well, it's very confusing.

01:23:46.780 And yeah, well, and before we depart from this, I just want to say, and then I'll pass the ball

01:23:50.820 to you, Jay.

01:23:51.240 I don't know which way we're going to go with this, but that whole, the occult New Age

01:23:56.360 movement, whatever used to omit Christ now is forced to incorporate it because I think

01:24:02.200 so many people are coming towards Jesus that they're like, okay, this is a, this is a thing

01:24:06.000 that we need to figure out how to steer.

01:24:07.900 So now you're getting crap like Pleiadian Jesus in blue scrubs with silver boots, right?

01:24:14.660 That's the story that we were reading.

01:24:15.960 That's the guy that you're talking about.

01:24:16.840 That's easy stuff though.

01:24:18.000 But there's a lot of that.

01:24:19.380 It's like now, and then you get the whole Gnostic thing of Jesus was an ascended master.

01:24:23.820 He's just like Buddha, he had a Kundalini awakening, yada, yada, yada.

01:24:27.120 The list goes on and on and on.

01:24:28.940 You get into the weird stuff.

01:24:30.440 Jay, Jay encountered it the other day.

01:24:32.560 It's like, Jesus was actually from, like he was Irish or something like that.

01:24:35.640 And the white people were the real, and then it starts to get strange and you get into

01:24:39.620 race identity and we're like, all right, what are we doing here, guys?

01:24:42.260 It feels like they need to, they're like, we need to, this isn't going away.

01:24:45.300 We need to muddy it a lot.

01:24:46.680 So I don't know.

01:24:48.260 Thoughts, Jay?

01:24:48.800 Yeah, I think that you have to, who Jesus is and the Jesus of history is the Jesus in

01:24:57.180 the church.

01:24:57.600 Like you can't divorce who he is from the church that he established.

01:25:00.840 And we believe that he established a church in history.

01:25:04.040 So when the apostles go out, you know, they set up C's, S-E-E-S, in the Roman Empire and

01:25:10.360 you get the bishops that succeed from those different C's.

01:25:13.260 If you read Paul's letters to Timothy, he talks about laying hands on Timothy, passing

01:25:17.580 on the gift of the Holy Spirit, and he tells Timothy not to hastily lay hands on men after

01:25:21.780 him, but to pick good dudes, solid dudes to pass that gift onto, much like you see in

01:25:29.580 Numbers 11 when, you know, you have Moses laying hands on the elders, passing the Spirit when

01:25:34.880 you have, you know, at the end of Genesis, you know, Joseph and the blessing in Genesis.

01:25:40.600 So there's this biblical model of the passing on through the laying on of hands of the gift

01:25:44.560 or the inheritance, which in the New Testament is fulfilled in the gift of the Holy Spirit.

01:25:49.540 So anything that departs from that confession that you see in history, because we think

01:25:55.080 Jesus promised the Holy Spirit to guide the church and that he would never leave it, you

01:25:59.060 know, in John 14 to 16.

01:26:00.760 So this presence of the Holy Spirit in the life of the church makes the church also a

01:26:06.860 theandric institution, which just means a God-man or the body of the God-man institution.

01:26:11.840 So it's not a social organization.

01:26:14.560 It's not a political organization.

01:26:17.000 It's something totally unique to history.

01:26:19.060 It's a supernatural organism in our view.

01:26:22.440 And so, you know, when you go back to like the Nicene Creed and this kind of stuff, like

01:26:26.400 there's not really any Christianity that departs from that.

01:26:29.660 Like it's not Christianity.

01:26:30.640 It's some sort of deviation and all the Gnostic stuff, all the sort of neo-pagan stuff.

01:26:35.540 It's really going against mischaracterizations of what Christianity is.

01:26:39.660 For example, with the Hitler stuff, the people, the reason people are looking to that kind

01:26:43.620 of a based so-called a leader is like we haven't seen a base leader or what the Christian

01:26:51.080 doctrine of the state actually is in practice in our generation.

01:26:54.360 It doesn't exist.

01:26:56.060 And when you go throughout church history, you have countless examples of Christian kings

01:27:01.540 who were opposed to Zionism, opposed to, well, it's a Zionism, opposed to rabbinical Talmudic

01:27:06.520 philosophy, who fought Islam, countless Orthodox Christian kings, especially in Serbia, who went

01:27:13.780 to battle against Islam.

01:27:15.340 So there is this genuine masculine, kingly, heroic, patriarchal archetype that still exists

01:27:23.180 all throughout Orthodox iconography.

01:27:25.140 The last of which would be Tsar Nicholas, who was murdered by the Bolsheviks in a Talmudic

01:27:30.320 ritual.

01:27:31.880 That has been banished and people don't have any conception of this.

01:27:36.680 So the deficient nature of Western Christianity, for the most part, when it seeks for cultural

01:27:45.600 and political and social solutions, it naturally then wants to gravitate towards the last thing

01:27:51.800 that it thinks or remembers in its cultural memory as so-called bays, and that would be

01:27:56.780 Tiny Mustache Man.

01:27:57.900 But the reality is that he was brought into power by Western industrial money.

01:28:04.200 They wanted a war.

01:28:05.620 This war led to the repatriation of Jews to the Middle East by design.

01:28:14.600 And there was agreement between the Nazis and the Zionists called the Havara Agreement so

01:28:18.860 that Palestine could be set up.

01:28:20.780 And after World War II, you wouldn't have the nation state of Israel if you'd not had

01:28:24.120 Tiny Mustache Man wreaking havoc and killing, by the way, millions and millions of Orthodox

01:28:29.200 Christians and Russian Christians, Polish Christians, who were fighting against them,

01:28:34.860 not because they were just simply communists.

01:28:36.740 They didn't appreciate the attitude that Hitler had, especially towards the Slavs.

01:28:41.740 If you read in Mein Kampf, he sees them as lesser people very clearly.

01:28:45.080 So we would say, as Orthodoxy and many Orthodox Christian saints said, that the movement of

01:28:51.200 Napoleon against Russia and Hitler against Russia were actually actions of the spirit of

01:28:57.320 Antichrist.

01:28:58.380 So just because you're against, you can find a Roman emperor who didn't like Jews.

01:29:02.340 Does that mean that he's good because he didn't like Jews?

01:29:04.480 Well, I mean, being a Roman emperor and wanting to be worshipped and seeing yourself as a sort

01:29:08.220 of a God figure doesn't make you necessarily based.

01:29:12.460 I mean, unless you just hate Christianity, as many of the Wignats do.

01:29:15.440 But I mean, yeah, there's a combination of things there that make it very difficult.

01:29:20.320 And that's why people are turning to this created meme icon, which I believe is a replacement for

01:29:27.180 real kingly iconography.

01:29:30.160 If you look at what I posted on my Twitter the other day, I put two saints, one from the king

01:29:34.920 of Serbia, St. Stephen, who fought against Muslims.

01:29:37.600 And then another one was the Romanovs who the Jews didn't like.

01:29:41.520 So you've got these images in our Christian civilization that are opposed to these things.

01:29:47.200 And you can go back to Byzantium.

01:29:48.520 It's the same same ideology, the same system.

01:29:50.940 But you're not supposed to talk about any of that.

01:29:52.880 You're only supposed to talk about, I don't know, tiny mustache man or whatever.

01:29:57.560 Yeah, that's it.

01:29:58.700 There you go.

01:29:59.300 That's it.

01:29:59.680 That's an actually it does.

01:30:01.500 It clarifies a lot because I'm left in this situation where I'm looking at the we're looking

01:30:08.360 at the state of the world, the state of America.

01:30:09.860 And we're like, clearly, we do need some sort of a strong man.

01:30:12.500 And I have the proclivity to deny whatever strong man will rise up from the movement that's

01:30:18.960 happening now because it's it seems like the fruit is a little bit tainted.

01:30:22.200 Yeah.

01:30:23.200 And then on the other side of that, when you ask, like, I don't know, Christian, just

01:30:26.640 your regular Christian person, we go to a Pentecostal church.

01:30:30.260 So obviously, my family's like that.

01:30:31.440 They're like, we're just waiting on Jesus, like rely on God.

01:30:34.220 And I'm like, that's that's good.

01:30:35.900 But there's stuff happening now.

01:30:39.320 And I got kids in the world.

01:30:41.600 So like what it's just like it's a weird conundrum for me.

01:30:45.360 Like, what should I be aimed at?

01:30:47.660 Should we be looking to galvanize some sort of a movement that actually is a Christian

01:30:53.140 movement, a Christian nation?

01:30:54.860 Maybe like somewhere along the lines of like the guy Joel Webin seems like to kind of I

01:30:59.680 haven't paid as much attention to him as I should have, but he seems kind of like be pushing

01:31:03.560 in that direction or just the faith based, which I I'm definitely I'm not leaning towards

01:31:11.540 it, but I'm trying my best to do that as well.

01:31:13.980 And I think that this actually goes along with what you're saying.

01:31:16.440 And I was going to ask, you know, what you would say to people who say Christianity is

01:31:21.720 a Jewish psyop meant to sort of lull you into complacency.

01:31:26.900 Judeo-Christianity certainly is.

01:31:28.520 Well, I mean, but there are people that look at like Jesus Christ and this idea of of

01:31:33.160 Christianity as like pacifism.

01:31:36.220 And they would say that Christianity, the point of it is so that you can be taken over

01:31:42.780 effectively because it is it's because of its tenets.

01:31:46.340 Well, they'll say like Jesus, Jesus will come back with a, you know, to rule with a rod of

01:31:50.280 iron.

01:31:50.600 It's like, but we're waiting for him to do that.

01:31:52.300 It's like, should we be waiting just for that?

01:31:54.180 Like, are we are we to not gain dominion of this this blessing that we've been given in

01:31:58.940 the meantime?

01:31:59.340 Or should we just kind of just wait around and whatever happens, happens?

01:32:03.300 Well, the answers are already in church history.

01:32:05.320 If you look at the first three centuries when the church is persecuted by the Roman beast,

01:32:10.060 it takes a few million martyrs before the empire gets Christianized.

01:32:14.040 And it does successfully get Christianized.

01:32:15.880 I believe that's a fulfillment of Daniel, too, because it says that the empire under which

01:32:20.580 the Messiah is born would eventually be taken over by his kingdom.

01:32:24.400 Jesus said that the church is the kingdom.

01:32:26.320 Matthew 16, the church expands and it is given to the Gentiles.

01:32:30.940 Matthew 21, 43 at the first advent.

01:32:33.960 So if you look at all the passages in the New Testament, one of the sites, Psalm 110 about

01:32:37.400 the ascension, the ascension is what happened in Acts.

01:32:40.960 That's when he begins his reign.

01:32:42.340 Sit at my right hand and tell him, make your enemies your footstool.

01:32:44.560 So you're absolutely right about that.

01:32:45.720 Dominion mandate is actually now given to the church.

01:32:48.400 The church takes dominion by converting the nations.

01:32:51.220 It's not primarily political.

01:32:52.660 There is a side effect, a down the stream effect of conversion of the empire does eventually

01:32:59.800 affect the politics and you get Christian law.

01:33:02.800 As Orthodox, we believe that Justin was, St. Justinian was a saint and he put out the

01:33:09.440 Code of Justinian, which is a famous historic Christian law document that makes Christian laws.

01:33:15.200 So all the Orthodox kings that we talked about also had the same modus operandi, the same

01:33:20.220 principle of enacting Christian laws, but it's, it's not that we do politics first.

01:33:24.600 So in our perspective as Orthodox, we believe that as the nation permeates with Christianity,

01:33:30.380 Orthodox Christianity in particular, when it's the majority, they can then begin to pass

01:33:34.980 the Christian laws, right?

01:33:36.760 You're going to outlaw things like blasphemy.

01:33:38.700 You're not going to have all this nonsense.

01:33:40.100 I believe in Orthodox Christian monarchy, that's the best form of government.

01:33:44.640 But that's not our first priority, right?

01:33:46.840 The early church, they didn't go out to try to make sure that Caesar and senators converted

01:33:51.240 to make, to make Rome be Christian.

01:33:53.880 They converted in, you know, an organic sort of way.

01:33:58.380 And then eventually it permeated the empire and it took a few centuries.

01:34:02.300 And, you know, in the West, in America, it's a similar situation.

01:34:06.520 I think we're kind of in a pagan.

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01:34:37.380 Society, basically.

01:34:39.540 But through the internet and things like that, we might actually see a quicker type

01:34:43.340 of conversion and permeation of authentic Christianity.

01:34:46.140 It's not going to be this megachurch nonsense, but people are going to be looking for the historic

01:34:51.580 form of Christianity.

01:34:52.320 What was Christianity like for the first thousand years?

01:34:54.120 And I think that's what people find interesting and what we talk about.

01:34:58.260 I'm not attacking or dissing you guys or doubting your sincerity or anything like that.

01:35:02.320 But, you know, I was Protestant, raised Protestant, and then reading church history and reading

01:35:06.440 the church fathers and all that, that kind of led me in this direction.

01:35:08.760 So that kind of a Christianity already has a doctrine of the state.

01:35:14.120 And I think what you get with people like Joel Webin, and I remember I was used to be in

01:35:18.600 a Calvinist church, kind of like what Joel Webin's in, and we were kind of searching.

01:35:22.600 Oh, he's a Calvinist?

01:35:23.480 I wasn't aware of that.

01:35:24.220 I think so.

01:35:26.220 I'm not talking to him.

01:35:27.200 I just think so.

01:35:28.100 I'm not positive.

01:35:28.720 But I think what those kind of groups are kind of searching for, well, what is the relationship

01:35:35.940 of church and state?

01:35:37.460 It's kind of already been answered, you know, and Orthodoxy already has 2,000 years of how

01:35:43.200 you go about symphonia, which is the double-headed eagle.

01:35:46.460 It's not a Masonic symbol.

01:35:47.580 It's you got one body, which is the people, church and state working together in harmony.

01:35:51.460 It's not perfect.

01:35:52.520 You're going to have corrupt church leaders.

01:35:54.080 You're going to have corrupt politicians.

01:35:55.260 But the ideal is, when Christianity permeates, you do have Christian laws.

01:36:01.980 Orthodoxy was something that I was looking into.

01:36:03.420 It turns out that where I moved, the nearest one was like over an hour away.

01:36:08.140 And I'm like, I just, I can't do that.

01:36:10.180 We go to the same church now.

01:36:12.780 I like the Pentecostals, because every time they start speaking in tongues, I get to look

01:36:15.540 around and go, this is weird.

01:36:18.060 But it is, I don't think that God only resides in one spot.

01:36:22.160 I think if you call him, he's omnipresent.

01:36:24.940 So it's just a place that I go to on Sunday.

01:36:27.280 But really, the church is kind of like, well, what we're doing here at this coffee shop,

01:36:30.400 I'm excited if you'll be able to make it down.

01:36:33.800 But it's like, there's a Christian library in the back.

01:36:36.340 And the owner, Matt Heppner, is a guy that we like talk to.

01:36:39.060 We do Bible studies with this guy.

01:36:40.320 So we're talking about the Bible.

01:36:41.500 We're talking about God and the people that walk into this shop.

01:36:44.360 And, you know, there's just varying perspectives.

01:36:47.160 And we're able to, like, actually do church every single day, rather than one denomination

01:36:53.240 where, you know, like, we show up once a week.

01:36:55.960 Yeah, I can't drive an hour and a half to this place.

01:36:58.700 That was the first thing I looked at when I came down here or up here.

01:37:03.420 And I was like, dang.

01:37:04.940 Well, the good news is that we're actually spreading.

01:37:08.200 So, like, for example, many of the churches I've talked to, the priests and bishops,

01:37:13.260 and, like, they're all talking about everything is tripled in size in the last couple of years.

01:37:17.120 So that means that there will be more and more mission parishes and whatnot being set up.

01:37:23.120 But you guys are welcome, too, to come to our conference November 21-22nd if you want to come over to Palm Coast.

01:37:29.340 We're having a two-day Orthodox conference.

01:37:31.420 So we've already got about 150 people coming.

01:37:33.760 You guys are welcome to show up.

01:37:35.380 That would be dope.

01:37:36.080 I would love to do that.

01:37:36.580 You guys, you go for free, by the way.

01:37:37.600 You go for free.

01:37:39.860 That's awesome.

01:37:40.540 Yeah, after the show, we'll get the information.

01:37:42.440 That'd be very cool.

01:37:43.120 We should actually begin to wrap up now.

01:37:45.100 I want to respect Jay's time.

01:37:45.940 Well, I want to – do you have a question?

01:37:47.460 Because I –

01:37:48.060 Oh, yeah, we have a big question for you.

01:37:49.460 The final one.

01:37:50.020 Yeah.

01:37:50.360 The final one, the most important one, Jay.

01:37:53.800 This is something that we've begun to close all of our shows with,

01:37:56.880 and it always turns out to be a fun question that the answers are always, like, really interesting.

01:38:03.400 No, that's nothing crazy.

01:38:04.440 No, it's definitely nothing crazy.

01:38:05.360 What color are your underwear, Jay?

01:38:07.200 I was on one podcast, and I asked –

01:38:09.880 Oh, you're muted.

01:38:12.060 You're just muted.

01:38:12.840 You said you were on some podcast and what?

01:38:16.500 You're muted, man.

01:38:17.340 You got to touch the mic.

01:38:20.800 The fingers are going to go pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow.

01:38:23.660 He's got that shore – the newer shore, and when he touches it, it's like a –

01:38:27.780 Oh, it's like a sensor or a button on it.

01:38:29.720 Yeah, Jay, we lost you there.

01:38:30.900 You've been muted the whole time.

01:38:31.660 Yeah, I was on some podcast, and it was some weird –

01:38:33.900 The final question, you know, what's your favorite sex position?

01:38:36.300 It's just some weird question.

01:38:37.460 No, no, no, no.

01:38:38.620 No, that's gross.

01:38:40.040 This one pertains, I suppose.

01:38:41.800 Go ahead.

01:38:43.640 Not in this episode.

01:38:45.740 Okay, if you say yes.

01:38:47.580 Just in everything that you're doing.

01:38:48.920 Are you having fun?

01:38:51.480 Absolutely.

01:38:52.600 Yeah.

01:38:53.380 I mean, I would not trade any of this for what I was trying to do, which was, you know, academia.

01:38:59.960 I was going to try to be a professor, and like I told you guys, the professor, the graduate advisor was like,

01:39:04.620 yeah, well, you're a straight white male.

01:39:05.840 You're probably not welcome here, and I remember saying to him, well, I guess I'll go, I don't know,

01:39:10.380 start a blog and do a podcast, and he actually laughed.

01:39:12.720 He was like, ha, ha, ha, ha, good luck with that, but that was back in like the late 2000s

01:39:16.600 when that was kind of not really – it was – everybody was doing podcasts at that time,

01:39:20.880 and I remember he was specifically – and he wasn't laughing.

01:39:23.740 He was laughing in a shitty way like, ha, ha, ha, you won't make it.

01:39:27.040 You know what I mean?

01:39:27.400 I was like, well, just worry about that.

01:39:29.340 So – but he was that weirdo creep that – he didn't ever, like, touch my butt,

01:39:36.460 but the word was he tried to sleep with the young dudes on campus.

01:39:41.000 So, yeah, I'm just like, yeah, whatever, dude.

01:39:45.400 Hey, man, all these things work out for a certain way, right?

01:39:48.640 Like, I guess – I don't know if you believe in it this way, but God will close the door,

01:39:52.280 and he'll slam it shut in your face, and you'll sit there wondering, like,

01:39:55.240 why the hell – I thought I was supposed to do a thing, and it's just not that thing,

01:40:00.220 not this place, not right now.

01:40:02.580 And I think you're in the right spot, dude.

01:40:04.160 Oh, yeah, that's obvious.

01:40:05.260 You're in your element, and it's good to see – I mean, nowadays I feel like I see you everywhere.

01:40:11.160 And that's why –

01:40:11.660 Oh, by the way, congratulations.

01:40:13.480 I saw, like, the latest clip that you put up where he's like – he converted, like –

01:40:17.160 you got it, like, 20 N-word passes?

01:40:19.040 Yeah, dude, you got up to 24 N-word passes.

01:40:21.380 That's awesome, dude.

01:40:21.620 It's up in the 20s, so I can say nigger right now, right?

01:40:24.260 That's one of them.

01:40:25.920 Is that one of them?

01:40:27.000 Now it's down to 23.

01:40:29.380 23, yeah, 23.

01:40:30.980 Also, Esther Hollywood 3 is out, right?

01:40:33.180 So you guys can get –

01:40:34.220 Oh, yeah.

01:40:35.120 Very nice.

01:40:35.600 I've written over 1,000 pages on film analyses now.

01:40:39.660 So this is the completion of the trilogy.

01:40:41.380 It just arrived a couple days ago.

01:40:43.160 So you guys can get signed copies of that.

01:40:45.360 At the website, also in Tampa, we'll be at Tampa for the Tampa Bay Screams Horror Convention

01:40:50.300 costume party on October 30th.

01:40:55.500 Yeah, 30th.

01:40:57.820 Oh, that's like now.

01:40:58.700 Jamie reached out, but it's like so far.

01:41:00.920 I was like, I can't make – you guys aren't going to want to drive two additional hours.

01:41:03.940 Of course, we'd love to have you.

01:41:04.820 No, but you guys are on the way.

01:41:06.100 Like I could – we can go to the – what did you say?

01:41:10.700 Lady Fingers or where is it at?

01:41:12.920 Wait, I thought – Lady Fingers.

01:41:14.060 Lady Lake.

01:41:15.580 I thought you were south of us.

01:41:18.180 No.

01:41:18.380 I don't know.

01:41:18.760 Florida's an enigma.

01:41:19.880 No, we're in St. Augustine, so we drive down to you and then to Tampa.

01:41:24.900 Well, that day wouldn't work anyway because we have, quite frankly, show and we have Owen Benjamin coming on.

01:41:31.000 Well, what I'm saying is –

01:41:31.780 Oh, you guys love Owen Benjamin.

01:41:33.200 What I'm saying is we can – I can meet up with you guys on the way back or on the way down.

01:41:41.260 That would be cool.

01:41:42.060 On the way back could work out.

01:41:43.860 And okay, so look, I don't know if we're going to end up doing this, but if you're listening to this show, maybe we can figure out something where we use the space in the back.

01:41:49.800 We do a little bit of book signing.

01:41:51.280 You guys aren't even that far.

01:41:52.140 We can do this at any time.

01:41:54.200 Dude, I am so confused about where you are.

01:41:57.680 You don't know where St. Augustine is?

01:41:59.480 I thought St. Augustine.

01:42:00.680 It's embarrassing.

01:42:01.860 St. Petersburg.

01:42:02.180 St. Petersburg is super south.

01:42:04.320 It's more south of Tampa.

01:42:06.240 So maybe that's what I'm –

01:42:07.040 To be honest, we're probably closer to an Orthodox church than we think.

01:42:10.440 How far are you from Orlando?

01:42:13.600 An hour north of Orlando.

01:42:16.120 Okay, then you are closer to me than you're like an hour from me.

01:42:21.200 What?

01:42:22.060 Maybe he's right by the church that we were looking at.

01:42:24.580 That's why he's going to the church and it's easy for him.

01:42:27.140 We would have accidentally went there and Jay's there.

01:42:29.360 We should just meet up and do some podcasts like at any time.

01:42:33.780 Dude, I didn't even know this was a thing.

01:42:35.640 We've got a studio here.

01:42:37.880 We're building a great community that would vibe with what you are doing.

01:42:41.940 Oh, absolutely, man.

01:42:42.920 You would love it here.

01:42:44.120 And people would come out to come –

01:42:46.200 What's it called?

01:42:47.320 Lady Lake?

01:42:48.200 Lady Lake?

01:42:49.200 It's called Lady Lake.

01:42:50.280 Yeah.

01:42:50.420 It's the villages.

01:42:51.820 It's where all the old people have all the STDs.

01:42:53.840 You know what I'm talking about?

01:42:54.160 Oh, this humping old people.

01:42:56.100 I know where that is.

01:42:56.940 Yeah, dude.

01:42:57.920 We picked that on purpose.

01:42:58.720 Yeah, we're out here, dog.

01:42:59.860 We're cleaning it up.

01:43:00.780 Now I know what's up.

01:43:02.100 Yeah, okay.

01:43:03.400 All right, Jay.

01:43:04.200 Thanks for coming on, man.

01:43:06.100 This is great.

01:43:06.960 I always love talking to Jay.

01:43:08.840 And hopefully we'll see you soon.

01:43:11.480 Any parting words for us, man?

01:43:12.940 How about where the heck people can find you?

01:43:14.640 You guys are technically just two hours away.

01:43:17.280 I could come at any time.

01:43:18.400 That's nothing.

01:43:19.620 Awesome.

01:43:20.020 Okay, we'll work out some odds and ends for you.

01:43:23.660 All right.

01:43:24.380 Yeah, dude.

01:43:25.040 It's been a great episode.

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Nephilim Death Squad - November 03, 2025

Fabian Socialism & The Technocratic Trap w⧸ Jay Dyer

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