Nephilim Death Squad - Faith By Reason： 2025 in Review w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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00:01:00.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

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00:02:44.300 Welcoming back to the show, Ed Mabry,

00:02:46.360 which I think is a great way to come back from the holidays, actually.

00:02:49.060 I'm glad that we're doing this now.

00:02:50.620 Before we get into the show, Ed,

00:02:51.920 let's talk about where everybody can find you.

00:02:54.060 Yeah, guys, thanks for having me back.

00:02:55.900 And by the way, the intro was awesome.

00:02:58.120 Love the intro.

00:02:58.540 Did you see you?

00:02:59.520 Yes, I saw me in it.

00:03:00.860 I'm real famous now.

00:03:02.680 Now I'm going to have to start going crazy like all the other famous people

00:03:05.100 and doing lines of coke.

00:03:07.540 Missing my off the adrenochrome.

00:03:10.120 We've just got a shipment of Ozempic,

00:03:12.000 and we're giving it to all of our guests.

00:03:14.760 It doesn't matter if you don't have to lose weight.

00:03:16.120 Actually, very interesting.

00:03:17.440 The Stranger Things show tying in some adrenochrome usage.

00:03:22.080 Really?

00:03:22.560 I heard it was just about that dude being gay.

00:03:24.540 No, I mean, there is like children's blood.

00:03:28.680 Oh, shit, really?

00:03:29.620 It really comes into play there.

00:03:30.220 Well, don't spoil anything.

00:03:31.120 I haven't watched it yet.

00:03:31.920 I've been watching Righteous Gemstones, which is-

00:03:33.920 What is that?

00:03:34.720 It's a hard show to watch when you go to the 501c3 system.

00:03:37.180 Ed, where can they find you, Ed?

00:03:38.420 Yes.

00:03:38.740 So you can find me at faithbyreason.net is the main site.

00:03:44.460 There is where I've been doing everything I've been doing for, wow, over 10 years.

00:03:48.360 After 15 now, you can also find me-

00:03:51.660 Wait, do you mean to tell me that you do more than just like little season debunking?

00:03:54.780 I know it sounds crazy.

00:03:55.980 So that was your only thing that you do?

00:03:57.380 No, all I do is just go around smacking down little season people.

00:04:01.720 That's it.

00:04:02.260 And this is just what I do on the side to make people think that I have more than one hobby.

00:04:07.440 They're called little seasoners.

00:04:08.820 Thank you very much.

00:04:09.600 Yeah, little seasoners.

00:04:10.300 It's actually the opposite.

00:04:11.960 Little season is in my rearview mirror, but people keep bringing it up.

00:04:15.260 Anyway, no, I actually like to help Christians understand their faith and enhance their walk with our God.

00:04:23.260 So that's the true mission of faith by reason.

00:04:27.000 And also destroying bad doctrine, which deceives people.

00:04:31.680 That annoys me, which is why I smack down things like the little season,

00:04:34.320 because it's deceptive and it's really messing with people's relationship with Jehovah.

00:04:38.420 That's the main thing.

00:04:39.540 And also, as you see here, we have my Patreon, which is-

00:04:43.420 That's where all the action is.

00:04:44.540 That is patreon.com slash faithbyreason.

00:04:47.700 You join Patreon, you get new material as soon as it drops.

00:04:50.400 It goes there first, even before it goes on to my regular site.

00:04:53.460 You also get to be a part of the Q&As and you get discounts for free books.

00:04:58.880 You can also be a part of my monthly Bible study,

00:05:02.460 where we go through the entire Bible in one year from the supernatural point of view.

00:05:06.660 And actually, we are wrapping it up this first year of it.

00:05:09.020 We can talk about that in our year in review.

00:05:11.500 But January will be the last show.

00:05:13.140 I just did the December show.

00:05:14.380 So we're wrapping it up with the book of Revelation, finding out how the story ends.

00:05:18.560 We call it the Jehovah story Bible study because the Bible is God's story.

00:05:22.980 It's a narrative.

00:05:24.360 And why does he tell you his story?

00:05:28.060 So you can know him.

00:05:29.020 That's why you want to hear anyone's story.

00:05:30.600 The purpose of the Bible is not to learn.

00:05:33.140 It's not a history book.

00:05:34.160 It's not a biology book.

00:05:35.000 It is a story of a person who wants you to know them, understand who they are,

00:05:40.700 how they feel, what their will is, what their goals are, and how they feel about you.

00:05:45.380 That's what the Bible is for.

00:05:46.480 And that's how we go through the Bible from that standpoint.

00:05:49.060 Let me just give you, I feel like we give him a lot of praise.

00:05:53.940 But that Patreon page, I remember like first scrolling and it's like,

00:05:57.620 there's a couple of things here.

00:05:58.660 Yeah, now it's a library of resources.

00:06:00.500 I'm looking through it.

00:06:01.180 I'm like, wow, this is like, and it looks great too.

00:06:03.580 Yeah, this is a source.

00:06:05.500 We've been talking about this a lot.

00:06:06.880 And I was actually just talking with my wife about this, where my wife,

00:06:11.300 it's so important to know God.

00:06:14.220 I think we're in like crunch time.

00:06:16.060 We should be using whatever resources we can, you know, get in your Bible,

00:06:19.720 understand scripture, have an intimate relationship with God.

00:06:22.400 Because if we're correct about the scale of the deception that's coming,

00:06:27.320 and it's just one of these things that popped up this year,

00:06:29.400 and, you know, it's kind of been there, but it's this alien disclosure thing.

00:06:31.940 And if what our good friend Timothy Albarino says,

00:06:35.560 which is the antichrist is going to come from this, you need to know God.

00:06:40.020 And the way I was describing it to my wife is like, if somebody said, you know,

00:06:44.240 my wife stabbed somebody.

00:06:46.540 I know I can't say the words.

00:06:48.740 Stabbed somebody in Walmart.

00:06:50.520 I would say one of two things.

00:06:52.020 Either you've got it wrong because I know my wife.

00:06:54.400 Was she on her period?

00:06:54.680 Or did they deserve it?

00:06:57.340 They might have deserved it.

00:06:58.460 What were they doing?

00:06:59.660 The point is, you know, when you know somebody intimately,

00:07:03.140 it's very hard for somebody to lie to you about that person.

00:07:07.160 So it's the same thing for God.

00:07:08.320 If there is some antichrist coming,

00:07:10.860 something that will take the position and present itself as an alternative to Christ,

00:07:15.880 or even as Christ, but it's not really,

00:07:18.580 the only way you're going to be able to defend yourself from that is by knowing Christ.

00:07:21.840 Right, you hit the nail right on the head.

00:07:24.700 Because that's exactly a similar example.

00:07:26.840 I don't use my wife stabbing someone.

00:07:28.300 Because if she did, first of all, I wouldn't be that surprised.

00:07:31.160 And secondly, my first question would be, okay, what did he do?

00:07:34.740 Because, you know, she's a just woman.

00:07:37.680 But that's perfect.

00:07:38.940 Because one of the issues that a lot of Christians have that I had too growing up

00:07:42.700 was that we see God the way society has presented him,

00:07:46.860 which is as this unknowable, faraway entity that's just sitting on a cloud

00:07:50.900 with a hammer in his hand, waiting to bop you over the head

00:07:53.600 every time you do something wrong,

00:07:54.760 that he's cold and indifferent and doesn't care about you.

00:07:58.840 And that, you know, Jesus is a sweet, lovable, human, magic teddy bear.

00:08:02.360 And, you know, God, Jehovah, is like, you know,

00:08:04.780 this evil stepdad who wants to punish you.

00:08:08.340 And, of course, that's a deception,

00:08:10.260 a deception from the enemy to keep you from being intimate with Jehovah,

00:08:14.080 which is what Jesus came to give us.

00:08:16.520 Among other things, he came to restore the relationship

00:08:18.580 that we're supposed to have with him.

00:08:20.180 So, again, as you said, if you know who he really is,

00:08:22.700 then you know who he's not going to be.

00:08:24.300 And that's why one of my biggest pet peeves is any type of deception

00:08:27.160 or anything that paints God in the wrong picture,

00:08:30.180 like, you know, our boy Billy Carson and people like him

00:08:33.120 who will say, you know, Jehovah of the Old Testament

00:08:36.060 is this evil demiurge.

00:08:37.880 No, that's not.

00:08:39.420 If you read the Bible, I mean, if you study the Bible,

00:08:41.280 not just read it, but study it, you will see it's the opposite.

00:08:43.920 Jehovah's like the nicest one in the world.

00:08:46.300 He just says, here, I want you guys to be happy.

00:08:48.920 Here's your own planet with everything you want on it.

00:08:52.600 And just, let's just hang out.

00:08:54.580 Let's just walk and talk in the cool of the day.

00:08:57.120 And everything he does after that is a reaction to the things that we do

00:08:59.960 that we've done to harm him.

00:09:01.740 And then he gets his feelings hurt.

00:09:04.020 I mean, imagine this, that you can hurt God's feelings

00:09:06.920 by not loving him.

00:09:09.380 So I'm doing a Genesis series right now,

00:09:11.740 and I'm in the middle of one of the two trees,

00:09:14.740 the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

00:09:17.060 And the question is, why would God even put this tree

00:09:19.700 in the garden of good, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,

00:09:22.480 giving people the option, giving Adam and Eve the option

00:09:24.920 of like, of rejecting him or, and disobeying him?

00:09:27.700 Well, because he wants us to love him.

00:09:30.280 And love is a choice.

00:09:31.780 It's not a feeling.

00:09:33.100 Because, you know, we're all married.

00:09:35.060 We all have kids.

00:09:36.080 You're not, you love, we love our wives.

00:09:37.640 We love our kids, but we're not always happy with them.

00:09:39.620 But we still love them.

00:09:40.940 So it's not a feeling.

00:09:41.940 It is a choice you make to put someone ahead of yourself.

00:09:45.200 You have to choose.

00:09:46.240 And so in order for you to choose to love God,

00:09:48.360 there has to be an option to not love him.

00:09:51.260 That's why he put the tree there.

00:09:52.840 So can you imagine how vulnerable he's,

00:09:55.140 he's intentionally made the God of the universe

00:09:57.000 who created everything has made himself vulnerable to us.

00:10:00.800 We can hurt him.

00:10:02.440 And that's just staggering.

00:10:04.300 That's the God of the Bible.

00:10:05.460 Not some angry, you know, vengeance God

00:10:08.400 as people try to claim him to be.

00:10:09.740 So just to put a, to finish up this point,

00:10:12.560 the purpose is to know him, to know his character,

00:10:15.020 so that if someone presents him as anything that's not him,

00:10:18.480 you know, oh, that's not the God I know.

00:10:20.420 And that's what, again, what Faith by Reason is all about.

00:10:23.280 Yeah, that's, that's huge too.

00:10:25.040 Like I've been going through this thing recently

00:10:27.220 where I'm realizing for all of the information that I have

00:10:30.380 in this whole like truth or conspiracy movement,

00:10:32.240 which like, you know, that is what got me to the show.

00:10:36.820 And so I'm not saying that, you know,

00:10:38.100 the pursuit of truth is, is unimportant,

00:10:40.300 but I recognize like that venue,

00:10:42.520 that pursuit of truth is exactly what will be hijacked.

00:10:46.000 And what will be leveraged is our own understanding,

00:10:48.300 which we're warned to, to not lean on.

00:10:51.040 And if you continue to go down this, you know,

00:10:54.460 it's solely my own pursuit of this information

00:10:57.740 that will get me to the end of it.

00:10:59.500 You're going to find yourself in some sort of Gnosticism.

00:11:02.060 You're going to find yourself in some sort of Demi-urge,

00:11:05.060 you know, kind of a scenario where I'm watching people,

00:11:08.780 you know, significantly higher intellects than myself

00:11:11.540 rely only on their own understanding

00:11:14.140 and then come to this conclusion

00:11:15.460 that I'm recognizing is like this bottleneck.

00:11:17.560 It's a funnel.

00:11:18.120 It leads you to this place.

00:11:19.660 And you don't have, you know,

00:11:21.640 it's the same thing that God was telling Job, right?

00:11:23.480 It's like, where were you

00:11:24.540 when I laid the foundations of the earth?

00:11:25.880 It's like, we're only here for this little blip in time.

00:11:28.800 70, 80, 90 years.

00:11:30.300 Top says we used to get 150 before the Jews ruined it for us.

00:11:33.660 Whatever.

00:11:33.980 120.

00:11:34.740 120.

00:11:36.900 But it's a very short amount of time.

00:11:39.140 So the idea that we can grab it all

00:11:41.360 and understand it all in this short amount of time,

00:11:44.120 likely what's going to happen

00:11:45.160 is you're going to come to a bunch of really bad conclusions.

00:11:47.600 Like maybe Jesus was a Pleiadian

00:11:50.000 or some goofy shit like that,

00:11:51.680 which is a lot of what we're coming up against, you know.

00:11:54.960 Isn't it interesting that of all the so-called religious figures,

00:11:58.540 if you're a secular person

00:11:59.520 and you hear this all the time,

00:12:01.040 well, you know, all the religions are the same.

00:12:02.620 Jesus, Muhammad, Krishna, all that.

00:12:04.660 But okay, if they're all the same,

00:12:06.040 how come everyone wants to co-opt Jesus into their movement?

00:12:09.140 Yeah.

00:12:09.620 You know, whatever movement you have,

00:12:11.040 well, Jesus is an alien.

00:12:12.000 Jesus is an ascendant master.

00:12:13.400 Jesus is whatever.

00:12:14.800 You don't say that stuff about Muhammad.

00:12:16.340 You don't say that about Krishna.

00:12:17.560 You only, Jesus is the only one people want to warp

00:12:20.440 into what they want him to be

00:12:22.340 or don't want people to believe about him.

00:12:24.960 And another thing you said, Raven,

00:12:26.340 that's really important is that, you know,

00:12:27.760 in the times we're in

00:12:28.580 and the times that I think are coming upon us pretty shortly,

00:12:32.060 there's going to be that deception

00:12:33.480 of miscasting God and Jesus into these different things.

00:12:38.900 And like the first book I did,

00:12:40.320 which you can get on Patreon or on Faith by Reason,

00:12:42.780 it's a quick read.

00:12:43.640 It's like five bucks.

00:12:44.760 It's called The False Apocalypse.

00:12:46.220 And it talks about the,

00:12:47.600 we talked about this before during the Revelation series,

00:12:49.720 where the six seals,

00:12:51.180 which a lot of people,

00:12:52.140 a lot of commentators believe that

00:12:53.620 is the beginning of God's judgment.

00:12:55.540 And my, I have a different take.

00:12:56.820 I think it's actually a final satanic deception.

00:12:59.860 And one of the,

00:13:01.080 the point of this is when you get to the sixth seal,

00:13:02.780 this open, you know,

00:13:03.300 there's a great earthquake

00:13:04.000 and the sky is rolled up like a scroll

00:13:06.580 and the stars of heaven,

00:13:08.000 an idiom for the angels

00:13:09.020 or the fallen Elohim falling down to earth.

00:13:12.760 When this happens,

00:13:13.780 like the people who are still on earth,

00:13:15.540 the bad people say,

00:13:16.960 they go into the mountains

00:13:17.880 and they fall on us

00:13:18.780 and say, fall on us

00:13:19.640 and hide us from he who sits on the throne

00:13:21.660 and from the wrath of the lamb.

00:13:23.920 They believe that these things

00:13:25.360 are coming from Jesus.

00:13:26.600 And I think that's a deception.

00:13:28.400 These things are actually,

00:13:30.120 these are,

00:13:30.780 they have a satanic source

00:13:32.000 because to usher in the Antichrist.

00:13:34.340 Remember the Antichrist

00:13:35.160 is going to be a false Christ.

00:13:37.100 Well, in order to have a false Christ,

00:13:38.320 you have to have a false apocalypse.

00:13:39.820 So I think this is a false apocalypse

00:13:41.220 that will usher in the false Christ.

00:13:42.900 And they're going to paint God and Jesus

00:13:45.580 as the bad guys.

00:13:47.640 Because that term wrath of the lamb

00:13:49.140 is not found any place else in the Bible.

00:13:51.340 Because wrath is the purview of God.

00:13:53.440 God is the judge

00:13:55.300 and he's going to pour out wrath later in Revelation.

00:13:58.700 But Jesus, that's not his job.

00:14:01.400 So when they say wrath of the lamb

00:14:03.060 and the people who are saying it

00:14:03.980 are the evil people.

00:14:05.640 Well, first of all,

00:14:06.140 he's not the lamb anymore.

00:14:06.940 He's done with that.

00:14:08.120 The next time you see him,

00:14:09.160 he's going to be the conquering king.

00:14:10.180 So the lamb is the persecuted,

00:14:13.620 you know, crucified Jesus.

00:14:15.360 And interestingly,

00:14:15.900 there is a religion here

00:14:18.240 that always portrays Jesus

00:14:20.760 as forever on the cross.

00:14:22.500 We'll talk about them in a bit.

00:14:24.140 But every time you see him

00:14:25.480 in these particular churches,

00:14:27.020 he's either a baby

00:14:27.900 or he's on the cross.

00:14:29.720 Yeah.

00:14:30.360 Well, something interesting

00:14:31.740 about that religion.

00:14:32.840 And maybe it's worth getting into

00:14:34.040 just in the spirit of this episode.

00:14:36.060 Right now, it's named the wrong thing.

00:14:37.940 Spiritual warfare.

00:14:38.720 We're going to adjust that.

00:14:40.180 Year in review.

00:14:41.140 Yeah.

00:14:41.280 But we're going to do one.

00:14:42.480 I didn't want it to be confusing,

00:14:43.480 but we'll fix that.

00:14:44.440 Good point.

00:14:44.700 Solid point.

00:14:45.180 Yeah.

00:14:46.300 So one of the things

00:14:47.340 that did happen over this last year

00:14:49.180 within the Catholic Church

00:14:50.220 is there was some addendum made,

00:14:52.700 some very official movement

00:14:54.120 to make Mary,

00:14:56.900 what was it?

00:14:57.440 An official intercessor

00:14:59.700 or something between you and Christ?

00:15:01.840 Or I forget exactly

00:15:03.860 how it was worded,

00:15:05.020 but go ahead.

00:15:06.020 I think it's piggybacking

00:15:08.380 on something that happened

00:15:09.040 a few popes ago.

00:15:10.220 Pope John Paul II,

00:15:11.460 who was a pope most of my life,

00:15:15.960 he, during his last days,

00:15:17.860 he did one of his edicts,

00:15:19.240 ex catheter,

00:15:20.020 where he proclaimed

00:15:21.560 that Mary was the co-redeemer

00:15:23.360 with Christ.

00:15:24.860 So they were a tag team partner.

00:15:27.040 Like if you go back

00:15:27.640 to pro wrestling days

00:15:29.240 where it wasn't just Jesus.

00:15:30.980 You know, Mary was his partner.

00:15:32.080 You know, she was his understudy

00:15:33.100 or whatever.

00:15:33.820 So that, you know,

00:15:35.020 it's not just Jesus.

00:15:36.340 It's Jesus and Mary.

00:15:37.380 She's co-redemptrix.

00:15:38.540 So you can pray to her

00:15:39.860 for your salvation

00:15:41.020 just like you can pray

00:15:42.400 to Jesus for it

00:15:43.340 because she's right there with him.

00:15:44.900 And we've talked about this before.

00:15:47.180 The Mary of Catholicism

00:15:48.720 is not the Mary from the Bible.

00:15:51.740 It's basically,

00:15:52.640 it's the mother-child cult.

00:15:54.180 It's goddess worship.

00:15:56.020 She is actually Semiramis,

00:15:57.800 the wife slash mother of Nimrod.

00:16:01.900 And that's why you can look,

00:16:03.440 see all over the world.

00:16:04.300 You have these mother-childs,

00:16:05.460 these statues of a mother

00:16:07.100 and the divine child.

00:16:08.080 It started with Semiramis and Tammuz.

00:16:09.940 It's Isis and Horus.

00:16:12.040 It's Aphrodite and Eros.

00:16:14.680 Every culture has a mother.

00:16:16.660 You can look in Asian cultures.

00:16:18.040 You can look in cultures

00:16:19.260 of East Indian cultures.

00:16:20.640 They all have the same thing.

00:16:22.220 Why?

00:16:22.660 Because when the languages

00:16:24.160 were confused at Babel,

00:16:25.540 they took this false religion

00:16:26.900 started by Semiramis

00:16:28.100 all over the world

00:16:29.160 and they just have

00:16:29.820 different expressions of it.

00:16:30.840 And when Catholicism started,

00:16:33.300 which is basically an amalgamation

00:16:34.580 of Christianity and paganism,

00:16:36.000 they just renamed the statue

00:16:37.640 of Semiramis and Tammuz,

00:16:39.080 Mary and Jesus.

00:16:39.880 Anyway, the point is,

00:16:40.620 yeah, you're right, Raven.

00:16:42.060 That was started

00:16:42.740 with Pope John Paul II.

00:16:43.800 And if it's being reemphasized today,

00:16:45.660 it doesn't surprise me.

00:16:47.240 Well, here's another one.

00:16:48.760 If you could put this

00:16:49.520 on the stage top,

00:16:50.400 I added it to the bottom there.

00:16:52.080 So another guy

00:16:53.900 who's been, you know,

00:16:55.080 in and out of the media

00:16:55.920 right beneath that

00:16:56.980 this year is Diddy.

00:16:59.640 And to be perfectly honest,

00:17:01.160 I've not given much of a crap

00:17:02.800 about whatever Diddy's doing

00:17:04.560 or didn't do

00:17:05.200 or Diddy didn't done it.

00:17:06.720 He didn't do it.

00:17:07.540 Diddy did it?

00:17:08.460 Diddy didn't do it.

00:17:09.480 But he has this back tattoo

00:17:11.460 and this is Azuli Danter,

00:17:13.820 I believe.

00:17:14.680 I'm sorry, Azili Danter,

00:17:16.960 which is a voodoo goddess.

00:17:21.000 And you can see here

00:17:22.100 that she is often depicted

00:17:23.500 the exact same way,

00:17:24.640 this mother and child situation.

00:17:27.340 And so, you know,

00:17:28.560 I'm not,

00:17:29.200 I know I talk a lot

00:17:30.320 about Catholicism

00:17:31.040 and whether or not

00:17:31.660 you can co-opt these saints

00:17:33.020 and these different characters

00:17:34.080 in order to hide your gods.

00:17:35.540 I mean, certainly you can, right?

00:17:37.860 Santeria or,

00:17:39.480 voodoo or hoodoo

00:17:40.460 have all done the same things.

00:17:43.040 But it is worth mentioning

00:17:44.620 that I don't think

00:17:45.280 that that is something

00:17:46.780 that Jesus is excluded from

00:17:49.200 because we just laid out here

00:17:50.560 going into this conversation

00:17:52.180 the many ways

00:17:53.360 in which Christ is co-opted

00:17:54.820 by this movement

00:17:55.980 or that movement.

00:17:56.660 So it happens to all of them.

00:17:58.340 But that, I think,

00:17:59.880 right there,

00:18:00.500 that Danter tattoo

00:18:01.400 on the back of P. Diddy

00:18:02.500 and how big voodoo is

00:18:06.560 or Santeria is

00:18:07.960 in the hip-hop industry

00:18:09.720 given that whole guy,

00:18:11.240 what's the guy's name?

00:18:13.600 The guy who did

00:18:14.460 the 6-7 thing,

00:18:15.500 I forget,

00:18:16.020 he's a rapper,

00:18:17.220 big rapper right now,

00:18:18.820 kids love him,

00:18:19.620 whatever,

00:18:20.140 but he is an open practitioner.

00:18:22.820 He's a Santos,

00:18:24.480 I believe,

00:18:24.880 is what he called himself.

00:18:26.380 And this is a guy

00:18:26.960 who's in the hip-hop industry

00:18:27.940 who's regularly practicing

00:18:29.380 these rituals,

00:18:30.140 sacrificing animals,

00:18:31.560 doing all these things.

00:18:32.580 Is he the guy,

00:18:34.540 is he,

00:18:35.500 I'm into old school rap

00:18:38.280 as you can probably tell.

00:18:40.000 So I hear a few things here.

00:18:41.320 Is he the one doing

00:18:42.220 the Super Bowl?

00:18:43.400 I don't know if he is doing that.

00:18:45.180 Bad Bunny's doing the Super Bowl.

00:18:46.560 Bad Bunny?

00:18:48.020 He's just some Spanish guy.

00:18:49.400 But I think last year,

00:18:51.660 this year,

00:18:53.040 has been,

00:18:53.960 what we've been doing

00:18:54.960 on the show

00:18:55.480 and what Ed's been doing

00:18:56.500 and walking us through

00:18:57.780 is looking at this,

00:19:00.420 not to be offensive,

00:19:01.480 but it's this obvious deception.

00:19:03.680 Yeah.

00:19:04.020 Right?

00:19:04.660 And I feel like now

00:19:05.360 we're moving into this weird,

00:19:06.720 more nuanced deception

00:19:08.360 that can get tricky

00:19:11.080 and it's something that like,

00:19:11.980 well,

00:19:12.100 obviously I argue with Matt every day.

00:19:14.380 But it's true.

00:19:15.960 He's like,

00:19:16.460 hey,

00:19:16.600 we have to be careful about

00:19:17.820 when we're pointing

00:19:19.460 at the body of Christ.

00:19:21.140 Like,

00:19:21.240 are we just going to cut off

00:19:22.980 parts of the body?

00:19:24.420 Is this,

00:19:24.760 and I said,

00:19:25.200 well,

00:19:25.320 we have to determine,

00:19:26.100 is this a part of the body of Christ?

00:19:28.340 I feel like that's a...

00:19:29.540 Maybe an example would be good.

00:19:31.040 Who do you think?

00:19:32.320 Maybe not who,

00:19:33.500 or maybe at least the character type

00:19:34.920 of somebody who would be...

00:19:36.680 Well,

00:19:36.920 Timothy Albarino is one.

00:19:38.620 Derek Gilbert is another.

00:19:40.060 Okay.

00:19:40.640 And it's not,

00:19:41.980 yeah,

00:19:42.300 I know.

00:19:43.340 You see the...

00:19:45.420 Conundrum.

00:19:45.980 The conundrum that I'm having here.

00:19:47.500 But like,

00:19:47.740 you know,

00:19:48.380 Jude 1.4,

00:19:49.500 For there are certain men

00:19:50.400 crept in unaware

00:19:51.040 who were before of old

00:19:52.500 ordained to this condemnation.

00:19:54.360 Ungodly men

00:19:54.900 turning the grace of our God

00:19:55.880 into lasciviousness

00:19:56.740 and denying the only Lord

00:19:57.780 and our Lord Jesus Christ.

00:19:59.640 This is not something

00:20:00.640 that we should be

00:20:01.920 confused about.

00:20:04.040 This is something that like,

00:20:05.240 this is where the deception

00:20:06.460 was always going to come from.

00:20:08.060 Billy Carson,

00:20:08.660 when we look at him,

00:20:09.320 you go,

00:20:10.300 yeah,

00:20:10.700 this guy's,

00:20:11.400 this guy's a wanker.

00:20:12.560 It's obvious.

00:20:13.340 It's obvious.

00:20:14.020 And it's easy.

00:20:15.000 You can go

00:20:15.540 and you can just

00:20:16.240 pull the carpet from him

00:20:17.580 on Joe Rogan

00:20:18.320 and then just go

00:20:18.980 and then just go start running.

00:20:19.840 Yep.

00:20:21.060 But,

00:20:21.460 and I,

00:20:22.540 again,

00:20:22.700 I don't,

00:20:22.980 I don't,

00:20:23.260 like,

00:20:23.380 I just don't know

00:20:24.460 where to,

00:20:26.360 how to navigate

00:20:27.280 these waters

00:20:27.860 because yeah,

00:20:28.400 like now we are pointing

00:20:29.480 at parts of the body

00:20:30.860 of Christ

00:20:31.260 who I think the question

00:20:33.160 is like,

00:20:33.560 are you being

00:20:34.400 intentionally

00:20:35.000 dishonest

00:20:36.580 or are you

00:20:37.360 fooled yourself?

00:20:38.580 But like,

00:20:39.180 where we're going,

00:20:40.480 am I fooled?

00:20:41.320 That's,

00:20:41.700 that's perhaps

00:20:42.160 a good question.

00:20:42.700 That's a fair question.

00:20:43.380 I think we should always

00:20:43.940 be asking that.

00:20:44.820 But where we're aimed

00:20:45.700 is not in the same direction.

00:20:48.060 So that means

00:20:48.860 that we're talking about,

00:20:49.720 we're talking about,

00:20:50.680 you know,

00:20:51.800 bad doctrine

00:20:52.480 and that's bad

00:20:53.620 for the people

00:20:54.240 who are watching

00:20:54.860 and listening to us.

00:20:56.800 So I,

00:20:58.060 I think that's going

00:20:59.580 to be 2026's issue

00:21:01.140 and that's going

00:21:01.660 to be a pretty

00:21:02.560 delicate issue

00:21:03.420 because the time

00:21:04.480 is getting closer

00:21:05.520 where what you just said

00:21:06.920 about this deception

00:21:08.900 of Jesus coming back

00:21:10.440 and people being confused

00:21:11.660 about his character

00:21:12.380 and his nature,

00:21:13.220 that's going to be

00:21:14.080 called into question.

00:21:14.920 So like our thing

00:21:15.980 with Albarino would be,

00:21:17.540 he's like,

00:21:18.080 all aliens are not demonic.

00:21:20.280 Well,

00:21:20.720 apparently,

00:21:21.400 you know,

00:21:21.800 Pleiadians,

00:21:23.140 tall whites,

00:21:24.020 like these ones

00:21:24.540 that look good

00:21:25.120 that they come,

00:21:25.640 they give you

00:21:25.960 these prophecies.

00:21:26.740 He's like,

00:21:26.900 no,

00:21:27.100 well,

00:21:27.260 you know,

00:21:27.560 the,

00:21:27.820 the greys,

00:21:29.240 the small greys

00:21:29.940 are purely demonic

00:21:30.900 and I'm like,

00:21:31.340 cool,

00:21:31.620 let's keep going.

00:21:32.840 But he won't.

00:21:33.920 And I'm like,

00:21:34.340 well,

00:21:34.440 that's where the deception

00:21:35.240 is going to come in at.

00:21:36.240 Well,

00:21:36.420 that's actually

00:21:37.080 what I called out

00:21:37.860 pretty early,

00:21:38.800 earlier this year.

00:21:40.140 I think we were

00:21:40.600 talking about this

00:21:41.300 where it's like,

00:21:44.080 then it's a fantastic

00:21:46.540 deception

00:21:49.180 to paint them

00:21:50.740 as the bad guys

00:21:51.760 when they're really

00:21:52.620 just technology.

00:21:54.320 And then maybe,

00:21:55.360 maybe even

00:21:55.960 because this is what

00:21:56.840 Cliff High said.

00:21:58.320 And this is why

00:21:58.960 I remember saying that

00:21:59.780 Cliff High said

00:22:00.520 there was going to be

00:22:01.020 a war

00:22:01.580 between the greys

00:22:03.140 and the good aliens.

00:22:04.420 And I said,

00:22:05.040 but from where I'm sitting,

00:22:06.020 the greys are,

00:22:07.180 that's like beating

00:22:08.060 the shit out of your

00:22:08.680 vacuum cleaner.

00:22:09.940 They belong

00:22:10.940 to a higher intelligence.

00:22:13.020 They are some sort

00:22:14.140 of biomechanical

00:22:15.080 automaton.

00:22:16.480 Are you going to run

00:22:17.000 into the guy

00:22:17.460 that says prove it?

00:22:19.260 And I got no proof.

00:22:20.480 I mean,

00:22:21.020 but how do you prove

00:22:22.540 something supernatural?

00:22:24.060 Yeah.

00:22:24.380 And,

00:22:24.760 and also,

00:22:25.480 what should we be

00:22:27.060 telling people

00:22:27.800 just to prepare

00:22:29.880 for this?

00:22:30.420 Should we be telling

00:22:31.100 them like some are

00:22:32.020 good,

00:22:32.260 some are,

00:22:32.480 I don't know,

00:22:33.680 Ed.

00:22:34.060 I feel like.

00:22:35.120 Yeah.

00:22:36.460 So,

00:22:37.200 well,

00:22:37.420 okay.

00:22:37.720 Yeah.

00:22:38.120 A lot there.

00:22:39.220 So let's start

00:22:40.020 with one thing

00:22:41.180 you said

00:22:41.560 that was the first

00:22:42.640 thing you said.

00:22:42.980 We're talking

00:22:43.200 about how it's

00:22:43.460 going to be

00:22:43.640 more nuanced

00:22:44.220 because,

00:22:45.300 you know,

00:22:45.420 you have the,

00:22:45.840 you know,

00:22:46.320 the overtly

00:22:47.120 deceptive people

00:22:47.940 who you can

00:22:48.340 easily dismiss

00:22:49.040 because,

00:22:49.760 you know,

00:22:50.000 you can tell

00:22:50.480 quickly they're

00:22:51.120 just ignorant

00:22:51.800 like,

00:22:52.600 you know,

00:22:52.860 Carson and people

00:22:53.380 like that.

00:22:54.020 But then you

00:22:54.540 have Christians,

00:22:57.120 maybe real

00:22:57.640 Christians,

00:22:58.020 maybe not,

00:22:58.540 who are coming

00:22:58.980 in and kind

00:22:59.560 of wrapping

00:23:00.260 it in the

00:23:01.240 Bible and

00:23:01.980 wrapping it

00:23:02.380 in Jesus

00:23:02.880 and saying,

00:23:03.320 I'm a believer

00:23:03.840 in Jesus.

00:23:04.380 I'm a believer

00:23:04.800 in the Bible

00:23:05.260 but here's this

00:23:06.220 deceptive thing.

00:23:07.560 And the question

00:23:08.240 has to be,

00:23:08.760 is it intentional?

00:23:09.700 And that's

00:23:10.160 really important

00:23:10.720 because just

00:23:12.180 because you're

00:23:12.680 putting out

00:23:13.000 bad doctrine,

00:23:13.800 it could be,

00:23:14.280 as you said,

00:23:14.700 maybe you're

00:23:15.540 just wrong.

00:23:16.380 And I can't

00:23:17.100 get on a high

00:23:17.560 horse and say,

00:23:18.460 well,

00:23:18.720 you know,

00:23:18.960 I've never been,

00:23:20.060 I've been wrong

00:23:20.680 plenty of times.

00:23:21.440 I've had to

00:23:22.100 redact things

00:23:22.860 on faith by reason,

00:23:24.100 not because I was

00:23:24.960 trying to be

00:23:25.600 deceptive but because

00:23:26.660 someone who was

00:23:27.480 smarter than me

00:23:28.180 or pointed

00:23:29.580 something out

00:23:30.240 and said,

00:23:30.580 you know,

00:23:30.780 you may want to

00:23:31.940 look into this

00:23:32.480 more.

00:23:33.280 And so I've

00:23:33.640 had to change it

00:23:34.340 but I wasn't

00:23:35.100 trying to be

00:23:35.480 deceptive.

00:23:35.880 I was doing

00:23:36.220 the best that I

00:23:36.860 could.

00:23:37.120 And I always

00:23:39.780 say,

00:23:40.060 hey,

00:23:40.180 don't believe a

00:23:40.820 word I say

00:23:41.260 until you check

00:23:41.640 it out for

00:23:41.920 yourself.

00:23:42.680 I always make

00:23:44.080 a strong line

00:23:44.860 of delineation

00:23:45.460 when I say

00:23:45.860 this is just

00:23:46.420 my opinion.

00:23:47.180 I think this

00:23:47.800 could be

00:23:48.880 happening but

00:23:49.320 I could be

00:23:49.800 wrong and I

00:23:50.580 try to give

00:23:50.960 both sides

00:23:51.500 of it.

00:23:52.060 And I try

00:23:52.400 to say,

00:23:52.760 you know,

00:23:52.960 how could I

00:23:53.440 have been

00:23:53.660 wrong on

00:23:54.060 this?

00:23:54.280 Or if I

00:23:55.000 am wrong,

00:23:55.540 here are the

00:23:56.700 things like

00:23:57.120 with the

00:23:57.320 little season.

00:23:58.160 Here is what

00:23:59.000 the Bible

00:23:59.300 says.

00:23:59.660 If these

00:24:00.000 things are

00:24:00.280 happening,

00:24:00.580 then we're

00:24:00.720 in a

00:24:00.860 little season.

00:24:01.380 If they're

00:24:01.780 not happening,

00:24:02.380 then we're

00:24:02.580 not.

00:24:02.840 It's just

00:24:03.120 that simple.

00:24:04.280 And so I

00:24:05.340 could be

00:24:05.720 wrong there.

00:24:07.240 And some

00:24:07.860 of the people

00:24:08.220 who I've

00:24:08.960 talked to who

00:24:09.520 believe in

00:24:10.160 the little

00:24:10.400 season, I

00:24:10.800 think they're

00:24:11.120 sincere.

00:24:11.500 I don't think

00:24:11.800 they're intentionally

00:24:12.340 trying to

00:24:12.800 deceive people.

00:24:13.420 I think that

00:24:13.860 they believe

00:24:14.600 it for their

00:24:14.900 own reasons,

00:24:15.380 which is why

00:24:15.760 I end my

00:24:16.260 book on

00:24:16.580 the little

00:24:16.820 season by

00:24:17.660 addressing

00:24:18.060 people who

00:24:18.680 sincerely

00:24:19.300 believe it

00:24:19.800 because of

00:24:20.480 some

00:24:20.680 misconceptions

00:24:21.240 they have

00:24:21.580 about the

00:24:21.860 character of

00:24:22.280 God.

00:24:22.760 That it

00:24:23.260 looks like

00:24:23.640 he's

00:24:23.840 abandoned

00:24:24.160 us.

00:24:24.400 It looks

00:24:24.620 like Satan's

00:24:25.160 in control.

00:24:26.040 I think

00:24:26.320 that's one

00:24:26.580 of the big

00:24:26.980 things I

00:24:27.360 always hear

00:24:27.800 from commentators

00:24:28.700 is, well,

00:24:29.560 we're in a

00:24:29.920 time of

00:24:30.220 great deception

00:24:30.760 and God

00:24:31.820 doesn't seem

00:24:32.380 to be doing

00:24:32.880 anything, so

00:24:33.320 this must be

00:24:33.820 the time

00:24:34.120 where Satan's

00:24:34.540 in control.

00:24:35.160 I say, well,

00:24:35.760 no, that's

00:24:36.360 not.

00:24:37.100 So we have

00:24:38.380 to be very

00:24:38.740 careful there

00:24:39.240 because there

00:24:39.800 are some

00:24:40.160 people who

00:24:40.900 are intentional

00:24:42.000 and are

00:24:42.760 intentionally

00:24:43.300 misleading

00:24:44.340 people.

00:24:44.680 And I

00:24:44.860 think one

00:24:45.100 of the

00:24:45.300 signs of

00:24:45.680 that is if

00:24:46.320 they are

00:24:46.900 being completely

00:24:47.460 dogmatic and

00:24:48.260 not saying,

00:24:49.300 hey, I

00:24:50.500 could be wrong

00:24:51.080 or question

00:24:51.760 me on this.

00:24:53.080 A good

00:24:53.660 example is

00:24:54.540 Gary Wayne,

00:24:55.380 who I like

00:24:55.920 a lot.

00:24:56.240 I've been on

00:24:56.620 shows with

00:24:57.040 him.

00:24:57.460 He and I

00:24:57.820 disagree in

00:24:58.280 some places.

00:24:58.780 I think the

00:24:59.260 majority, I'd say

00:24:59.660 90% were in

00:25:01.100 line.

00:25:01.340 He does

00:25:01.540 great research

00:25:02.260 on the

00:25:02.620 Nephilim

00:25:03.020 and all

00:25:04.940 the Templars

00:25:06.980 and the

00:25:07.640 13th

00:25:08.060 family.

00:25:08.420 He does

00:25:08.760 great with

00:25:09.140 that.

00:25:09.340 We disagree

00:25:09.700 on a

00:25:09.920 couple of

00:25:10.180 things like

00:25:10.600 pre-Adamic

00:25:11.160 civilizations.

00:25:11.980 We disagree

00:25:12.360 on that.

00:25:13.480 I don't

00:25:13.900 think there's

00:25:14.140 any such

00:25:14.440 thing.

00:25:14.740 I believe

00:25:14.920 Adam and

00:25:15.220 Eve were

00:25:15.400 the first

00:25:15.760 humans

00:25:16.180 created for

00:25:16.680 my

00:25:16.860 reasons.

00:25:18.140 But when

00:25:19.660 we're on

00:25:19.940 a show

00:25:20.820 together,

00:25:21.160 Gary is

00:25:21.420 not like,

00:25:21.800 no, it's

00:25:22.080 my way.

00:25:22.460 He says,

00:25:22.720 okay, I

00:25:23.580 see what

00:25:23.940 you're

00:25:24.040 saying,

00:25:24.360 Ed, but

00:25:24.580 here I

00:25:24.880 have a

00:25:25.100 divergent

00:25:25.400 opinion.

00:25:25.880 That's

00:25:26.220 fine.

00:25:27.760 But when

00:25:28.280 someone comes

00:25:29.120 out and

00:25:29.540 says that

00:25:30.020 this is

00:25:30.980 what I

00:25:31.280 believe, and

00:25:31.620 if you

00:25:31.880 don't believe

00:25:32.260 what I

00:25:32.520 believe, you

00:25:32.840 are a

00:25:33.120 heretic, and

00:25:34.300 you're not

00:25:35.860 with God,

00:25:36.440 well, that's

00:25:36.760 the problem.

00:25:37.320 I think

00:25:37.520 that's

00:25:38.380 intentionally

00:25:38.820 being

00:25:39.200 deceptive.

00:25:40.080 And it's

00:25:40.480 going to

00:25:40.740 be tough

00:25:41.220 because they're

00:25:42.260 going to

00:25:42.840 lean on

00:25:43.820 some of

00:25:44.920 the common

00:25:46.340 misconceptions

00:25:47.240 we have,

00:25:48.240 like that

00:25:48.780 Jesus is

00:25:49.600 too nice

00:25:50.180 to punish

00:25:50.640 anyone.

00:25:51.860 Because you

00:25:52.640 look at

00:25:53.120 the

00:25:53.580 Jesus is

00:25:54.580 so nice,

00:25:55.160 he would

00:25:55.360 never send

00:25:56.760 anyone to

00:25:57.280 hell.

00:25:57.500 That was

00:25:57.760 the big

00:25:58.040 thing with

00:25:58.320 the emergent

00:25:58.800 church

00:25:59.100 movement in

00:25:59.800 the 80s

00:26:00.700 and 90s.

00:26:01.760 And when

00:26:01.980 there were

00:26:02.620 books out,

00:26:03.440 I forget

00:26:04.820 the name of

00:26:05.160 the emergent

00:26:05.540 pastor, but

00:26:05.940 he put out

00:26:06.460 a book

00:26:06.760 called

00:26:07.140 Love

00:26:07.920 Wins.

00:26:09.000 And the

00:26:09.560 conclusion

00:26:09.920 of the

00:26:10.100 book is

00:26:10.300 no one's

00:26:10.660 going to

00:26:11.000 hell.

00:26:12.200 Because

00:26:12.620 Jesus would

00:26:13.760 never do

00:26:14.680 that because

00:26:15.140 he's so

00:26:15.780 sweet and

00:26:16.240 so nice.

00:26:17.240 So you're

00:26:17.500 building this.

00:26:18.600 It's been

00:26:19.040 so long that

00:26:19.780 we haven't

00:26:21.000 spoken to you

00:26:21.540 since the

00:26:21.840 whole Kirk

00:26:22.240 Cameron

00:26:22.580 debacle.

00:26:23.600 Oh,

00:26:23.820 he had a

00:26:24.240 whole issue

00:26:25.200 with this

00:26:25.760 guy,

00:26:26.180 Jacob

00:26:26.440 Israel,

00:26:27.540 same sort

00:26:28.380 of thing.

00:26:28.860 And it's

00:26:29.040 just like,

00:26:29.660 yeah,

00:26:30.000 I don't know.

00:26:30.420 The Bible

00:26:30.760 doesn't really

00:26:31.140 prove that

00:26:31.680 out that

00:26:32.020 hell doesn't

00:26:33.640 exist or I'm

00:26:34.280 not even sure

00:26:34.880 exactly what the

00:26:35.560 argument is or

00:26:36.220 that people

00:26:37.180 won't go there.

00:26:37.800 It says that,

00:26:38.360 yeah,

00:26:39.000 it'll be cast

00:26:39.620 in,

00:26:40.080 people will go

00:26:40.960 to hell and

00:26:41.480 then that will

00:26:41.900 be cast into

00:26:42.540 the abyss in

00:26:43.400 the end.

00:26:44.140 Assuming the

00:26:45.120 people still in

00:26:45.840 it.

00:26:46.040 But yeah,

00:26:48.020 that's another

00:26:48.920 issue that came

00:26:49.560 up this year

00:26:50.160 that was kind

00:26:50.860 of what

00:26:52.020 happened here.

00:26:53.200 Well,

00:26:53.640 it's really,

00:26:55.300 I think,

00:26:56.020 important to

00:26:56.740 because,

00:26:57.160 you know,

00:26:57.600 we've gone,

00:26:58.480 you said,

00:26:58.800 Jacob Israel,

00:26:59.680 we have the

00:27:00.160 Albarino thing.

00:27:00.980 You were going

00:27:01.620 back and forth

00:27:02.180 with Derek

00:27:02.720 Gilbert recently,

00:27:03.540 and I don't think

00:27:04.280 that there's

00:27:04.540 anything wrong

00:27:05.300 with that.

00:27:06.260 I think

00:27:07.060 actually it's

00:27:08.160 what needs

00:27:09.180 to happen

00:27:09.620 right now

00:27:10.420 over the

00:27:11.420 last year

00:27:12.040 with,

00:27:12.660 you know,

00:27:13.100 the death

00:27:13.500 of Charlie

00:27:13.880 Kirk or

00:27:14.380 whether or

00:27:14.780 not he's

00:27:15.200 dead in

00:27:15.620 Valhalla or

00:27:16.460 some sort

00:27:17.260 of witness

00:27:17.520 protection thing.

00:27:18.140 Who the hell

00:27:18.480 knows?

00:27:19.000 We'll get to

00:27:19.760 that in our

00:27:20.300 year-end review.

00:27:21.480 What that did

00:27:24.020 was it

00:27:26.040 created this

00:27:27.460 huge wave

00:27:28.200 of people

00:27:28.640 coming over

00:27:29.160 towards

00:27:29.460 Christianity.

00:27:30.200 And something

00:27:30.440 that I've

00:27:30.740 been asking

00:27:31.100 on the show

00:27:31.720 quite a bit

00:27:32.340 lately is,

00:27:33.480 are you coming

00:27:34.100 towards

00:27:34.500 Christianity

00:27:35.260 as an

00:27:36.320 institution

00:27:36.900 in an

00:27:37.900 effort to

00:27:38.500 stick your

00:27:39.440 nose up

00:27:40.140 at a

00:27:40.640 previous

00:27:41.040 cultural

00:27:43.080 establishment

00:27:43.700 like leftism

00:27:44.800 or some shit

00:27:45.320 like that

00:27:45.840 or the

00:27:46.160 trans movement

00:27:46.680 or whatever

00:27:47.080 it is?

00:27:47.440 It's the

00:27:47.480 usage of

00:27:47.960 Christ as

00:27:48.500 king

00:27:48.800 as a

00:27:49.600 hammer

00:27:50.040 rather than

00:27:50.740 a proclamation.

00:27:51.700 It's like,

00:27:51.960 do you believe

00:27:52.380 that in your

00:27:52.820 heart or

00:27:53.680 are you saying

00:27:54.600 fuck you?

00:27:56.240 Is that what

00:27:56.720 you're doing?

00:27:57.240 Language.

00:27:57.400 I know.

00:27:57.840 I just wanted

00:27:58.280 to be a

00:27:58.660 really important

00:27:59.060 table.

00:27:59.980 Or are you

00:28:01.500 after a

00:28:02.940 real intimate

00:28:03.560 relationship

00:28:04.080 with God?

00:28:04.640 Those are

00:28:05.180 two different

00:28:05.660 things.

00:28:06.560 And I think

00:28:07.200 because of

00:28:08.500 all of these

00:28:09.240 people coming

00:28:10.020 to the table,

00:28:11.420 a discussion

00:28:12.560 really needs

00:28:13.120 to be had

00:28:13.660 about the

00:28:14.340 nuance,

00:28:14.800 about the

00:28:15.180 detail,

00:28:15.540 because it

00:28:15.880 is nuanced

00:28:16.440 and it

00:28:16.720 is detailed

00:28:17.320 and it's

00:28:18.020 the history

00:28:19.460 of the

00:28:20.800 world.

00:28:21.680 It's the

00:28:21.940 nature of

00:28:22.500 reality.

00:28:23.300 It's the

00:28:23.460 nature of

00:28:23.860 our existence.

00:28:24.760 It's the

00:28:24.940 nature of

00:28:25.400 God.

00:28:26.360 And if

00:28:26.860 you're just

00:28:27.160 glomming

00:28:27.580 onto it

00:28:28.120 to pick

00:28:28.420 a side,

00:28:29.460 well,

00:28:29.640 okay,

00:28:29.900 cool,

00:28:30.140 welcome.

00:28:31.180 Let's talk

00:28:31.760 about this

00:28:32.180 then.

00:28:32.380 So if

00:28:32.740 you're having

00:28:33.040 contention

00:28:33.520 with your

00:28:33.980 brothers and

00:28:34.760 if they are

00:28:35.180 truly your

00:28:35.620 brothers and

00:28:36.020 they are

00:28:36.280 part of the

00:28:36.660 body of

00:28:37.000 Christ,

00:28:37.580 I don't

00:28:37.840 think there's

00:28:38.060 anything wrong

00:28:38.540 with that.

00:28:38.900 These

00:28:39.040 conversations

00:28:39.520 need to be

00:28:40.060 had and

00:28:41.080 need to be

00:28:41.520 had publicly

00:28:42.420 because everybody

00:28:43.460 is in a

00:28:44.760 kind of a

00:28:45.300 crash course

00:28:46.200 right now.

00:28:46.680 I mean,

00:28:46.940 I keep coming

00:28:47.780 at it from

00:28:48.140 that angle

00:28:48.600 because I

00:28:49.000 truly believe

00:28:49.620 time is

00:28:50.400 short.

00:28:50.760 It's just

00:28:51.060 something that

00:28:51.520 I feel in

00:28:52.000 my spirit.

00:28:52.760 It's like

00:28:53.060 all the signs

00:28:54.160 are pointing

00:28:54.620 to it and I

00:28:55.180 don't know

00:28:55.440 what exactly

00:28:56.640 we're coming

00:28:57.120 to.

00:28:57.320 I have

00:28:57.580 my

00:28:57.740 suspicions

00:28:58.280 but it

00:28:58.880 feels like

00:28:59.320 we're coming

00:28:59.680 to something.

00:29:00.620 It feels

00:29:01.140 like learning

00:29:02.160 right now

00:29:03.660 is really

00:29:04.360 important.

00:29:04.880 But the

00:29:05.120 problem is

00:29:05.580 that now

00:29:06.960 when I'm

00:29:07.440 questioning

00:29:07.960 someone like

00:29:09.420 Derek Gilbert

00:29:10.160 who's been

00:29:10.560 on the show.

00:29:11.780 Can you tell

00:29:12.340 me really

00:29:12.580 quick what's

00:29:13.360 going on

00:29:13.680 with that?

00:29:14.080 Because I

00:29:14.380 used to

00:29:15.000 listen to

00:29:15.320 Derek Gilbert

00:29:15.780 probably maybe

00:29:16.380 a year or

00:29:16.760 so ago and

00:29:17.140 he said a

00:29:17.960 couple things

00:29:18.280 that kind

00:29:18.680 of turned

00:29:18.920 me off and

00:29:19.500 so I

00:29:19.700 stopped

00:29:20.360 listening to

00:29:20.860 Skywatch.

00:29:21.360 I think

00:29:21.520 it was what

00:29:22.320 he was on.

00:29:23.060 It's like

00:29:23.320 Prophecy

00:29:23.740 Watchers.

00:29:24.560 Yeah,

00:29:25.180 one of those.

00:29:25.940 But yeah,

00:29:26.240 what's going

00:29:26.520 on with

00:29:26.720 that?

00:29:27.280 I think

00:29:27.560 his research

00:29:27.980 is really

00:29:28.360 good.

00:29:28.920 I like

00:29:29.180 his stuff.

00:29:30.300 Yeah,

00:29:30.480 I have a

00:29:30.740 couple of

00:29:30.960 his books.

00:29:32.020 Yeah,

00:29:32.360 no,

00:29:32.580 I mean,

00:29:33.180 he's good

00:29:33.900 at what

00:29:34.120 he does.

00:29:34.440 He's great

00:29:34.720 at talking

00:29:35.400 as well

00:29:35.820 and even

00:29:36.300 typing.

00:29:38.040 There was

00:29:38.520 a point

00:29:38.840 where in

00:29:40.120 the interview

00:29:40.600 a year ago

00:29:41.140 or so,

00:29:41.600 I guess it

00:29:41.940 might have

00:29:42.160 even been

00:29:42.460 this year

00:29:42.880 in review.

00:29:43.880 No,

00:29:44.500 no,

00:29:44.860 I think

00:29:45.200 this was

00:29:45.520 a long

00:29:45.860 time ago.

00:29:47.280 David brought

00:29:47.980 up the

00:29:48.480 star of

00:29:48.940 Remfan and

00:29:50.640 the symbology

00:29:51.580 behind it.

00:29:52.120 Like a baby

00:29:52.660 I did.

00:29:53.080 I brought

00:29:54.140 it up

00:29:54.400 quite innocently.

00:29:55.200 I didn't

00:29:55.400 know that

00:29:55.760 this was a

00:29:56.120 guy that

00:29:56.400 was going

00:29:56.620 to get

00:29:56.860 offended by

00:29:57.420 that.

00:29:57.720 He got

00:29:57.960 like,

00:29:58.700 his countenance

00:30:00.980 fell.

00:30:01.840 That's the

00:30:02.320 best way I

00:30:02.700 could say it.

00:30:03.080 He didn't

00:30:03.500 like that

00:30:04.020 and then

00:30:04.380 got kind

00:30:04.920 of like

00:30:05.360 argumentative

00:30:06.760 about the

00:30:07.800 idea of this

00:30:08.360 and we're

00:30:08.600 like,

00:30:08.780 all right,

00:30:08.980 let's segue

00:30:09.920 because I

00:30:10.560 didn't mean

00:30:11.040 to touch

00:30:12.320 the whole

00:30:12.900 Jew thing.

00:30:13.620 So I

00:30:15.060 followed him

00:30:15.360 on Twitter

00:30:15.720 and he

00:30:16.740 said recently

00:30:18.320 they were

00:30:18.680 talking about

00:30:19.160 the USS

00:30:19.660 Liberty and

00:30:21.380 the narratives

00:30:22.260 behind it.

00:30:23.100 So the

00:30:23.440 mainstream

00:30:24.140 narrative would

00:30:24.940 be it was

00:30:25.960 an accidental

00:30:26.460 attack.

00:30:27.440 Israel has

00:30:27.980 paid reparations

00:30:29.120 to America

00:30:30.080 and the

00:30:30.860 troops that

00:30:31.440 were killed.

00:30:32.660 But the

00:30:33.020 real story,

00:30:34.100 to me,

00:30:34.640 the more

00:30:34.920 believable story,

00:30:35.820 which Derek

00:30:36.260 Gilbert also

00:30:36.800 agrees with,

00:30:37.840 is that the

00:30:38.800 United States

00:30:39.440 was in

00:30:40.500 contact with

00:30:41.180 Egypt during

00:30:42.040 that six-day

00:30:42.760 war.

00:30:43.620 And the

00:30:45.200 NSA was

00:30:45.840 on that

00:30:46.200 ship and

00:30:47.380 they were

00:30:47.620 sending

00:30:48.040 information to

00:30:49.820 Egypt,

00:30:50.700 possibly about

00:30:51.760 Israel.

00:30:52.820 So Israel

00:30:53.440 took offense,

00:30:55.120 like actual

00:30:55.720 offense,

00:30:56.260 and sunk

00:30:56.920 the ship,

00:30:57.800 killed 34

00:30:58.360 men,

00:30:58.880 injured 100

00:30:59.520 and something.

00:31:01.920 And I'm

00:31:02.400 like,

00:31:02.600 okay,

00:31:03.640 now that

00:31:04.320 you're

00:31:04.460 admitting that

00:31:04.960 narrative,

00:31:05.940 this is from

00:31:06.520 Derek,

00:31:06.920 I said,

00:31:07.320 what does

00:31:10.320 this,

00:31:10.660 like how

00:31:11.080 does this

00:31:11.540 play out?

00:31:12.660 He said,

00:31:13.080 you know,

00:31:13.260 Ben Shapiro

00:31:13.760 should use

00:31:14.240 this defense

00:31:14.940 rather than

00:31:15.480 it doesn't

00:31:16.080 matter.

00:31:16.740 It was that.

00:31:17.340 He's like giving

00:31:17.840 advice to Ben

00:31:18.480 Shapiro when he's

00:31:19.160 defending the

00:31:19.680 USS Liberty.

00:31:20.720 And I go,

00:31:21.440 that's

00:31:21.880 understandable.

00:31:22.840 And actually,

00:31:24.040 if I am

00:31:25.060 Israel and

00:31:26.240 there is

00:31:26.680 somebody who's

00:31:27.180 giving

00:31:27.380 counterintelligence,

00:31:29.060 I attack

00:31:29.820 them.

00:31:31.000 But,

00:31:32.400 Derek

00:31:33.280 Gilbert lives

00:31:33.780 in the

00:31:34.020 Ozarks.

00:31:35.120 And I live

00:31:35.800 in Florida.

00:31:37.060 So we are

00:31:37.800 American.

00:31:38.880 So when

00:31:39.960 a foreign

00:31:40.280 country

00:31:40.680 attacks,

00:31:41.240 this is all

00:31:41.860 I'm trying

00:31:42.140 to bear

00:31:42.440 out with

00:31:42.740 them.

00:31:42.920 I'm like,

00:31:43.140 okay,

00:31:43.340 I understand

00:31:43.700 what you're

00:31:43.960 saying here.

00:31:44.640 But when

00:31:44.860 a foreign

00:31:45.120 country

00:31:45.460 attacks

00:31:45.780 your

00:31:46.140 country,

00:31:46.880 what happens

00:31:48.920 here?

00:31:49.860 I think it was

00:31:50.320 also serving

00:31:51.000 it up like,

00:31:52.180 oh,

00:31:52.520 almost like it

00:31:53.100 was justified.

00:31:53.920 Like,

00:31:54.100 instead of

00:31:55.460 Ben Shapiro...

00:31:56.580 And it was

00:31:57.140 justified from

00:31:57.820 the perspective

00:31:58.320 of Israel.

00:31:59.840 Justified in

00:32:00.400 the sense of

00:32:00.880 like,

00:32:01.620 it was almost

00:32:02.160 like Ben

00:32:02.740 Shapiro should

00:32:03.280 say this

00:32:03.740 out loud

00:32:04.260 because it's

00:32:05.280 okay then.

00:32:06.160 I'm trying

00:32:07.080 to explain

00:32:07.500 to him,

00:32:07.760 I'm like,

00:32:07.920 Derek,

00:32:08.180 this doesn't

00:32:08.540 make it

00:32:08.880 better.

00:32:09.780 This makes

00:32:10.900 certain thing

00:32:12.340 almost disgusting

00:32:13.760 to most

00:32:14.340 people,

00:32:15.020 especially in

00:32:15.740 today's day

00:32:16.300 and age.

00:32:16.660 You're not

00:32:16.940 talking to

00:32:17.340 just a

00:32:17.700 boomer

00:32:18.040 audience

00:32:18.440 here.

00:32:19.120 There's a

00:32:19.520 large audience

00:32:20.200 and now

00:32:20.800 all of this

00:32:21.340 work that

00:32:21.740 you've done

00:32:22.220 in the

00:32:22.540 past,

00:32:23.340 I'm like,

00:32:23.680 why are you

00:32:24.380 choosing such

00:32:25.160 a weird

00:32:25.520 hard line

00:32:26.100 here?

00:32:26.600 And why

00:32:26.940 are you

00:32:27.200 confused

00:32:27.620 about the

00:32:28.260 state and

00:32:28.840 the government

00:32:29.260 of Israel

00:32:29.740 versus

00:32:30.160 whatever Israel

00:32:31.960 is in the

00:32:32.980 Bible,

00:32:33.480 God's

00:32:33.860 people?

00:32:34.520 There's a

00:32:34.920 remnant of

00:32:35.360 chosen people.

00:32:36.080 I don't,

00:32:36.620 and again,

00:32:37.180 to say

00:32:37.460 outright we

00:32:38.160 know that

00:32:38.560 every single

00:32:38.960 one of them

00:32:39.320 are in this

00:32:39.800 land right now,

00:32:40.600 the prophecy

00:32:41.040 was fulfilled

00:32:41.580 and not some

00:32:42.160 Rockefeller stuff

00:32:42.960 or maybe a

00:32:43.480 mix of all

00:32:43.900 that.

00:32:44.400 I'm just like,

00:32:45.000 the facts are

00:32:45.780 a foreign

00:32:46.620 country killed

00:32:48.380 your country,

00:32:49.620 men.

00:32:50.120 We shouldn't

00:32:50.640 be okay with

00:32:51.320 that and you

00:32:51.760 shouldn't run

00:32:52.220 excuses for it.

00:32:53.440 And it took

00:32:53.760 me two days

00:32:54.600 to draw this

00:32:56.040 answer out of

00:32:56.600 him.

00:32:56.740 I was like,

00:32:57.080 what is the

00:32:58.120 answer here?

00:32:58.940 Are you okay

00:32:59.560 with this?

00:33:00.440 Are you okay

00:33:00.860 with other

00:33:01.220 countries?

00:33:01.480 And he just

00:33:02.760 kept saying,

00:33:03.220 well,

00:33:03.420 if this

00:33:04.180 happened,

00:33:04.460 what would

00:33:05.360 you think

00:33:05.620 about that?

00:33:06.060 And I was

00:33:06.300 like,

00:33:06.440 I'm not

00:33:06.700 asking you

00:33:07.140 that.

00:33:07.420 I'm asking

00:33:07.840 you a

00:33:08.300 specific

00:33:08.640 question.

00:33:09.820 And in my

00:33:10.760 opinion,

00:33:11.100 it wasn't

00:33:11.580 satisfactory by

00:33:12.360 the time I

00:33:12.840 did get an

00:33:13.320 answer,

00:33:13.720 which was

00:33:14.440 that he

00:33:15.460 is okay

00:33:15.860 with it.

00:33:16.800 And I was

00:33:17.040 like,

00:33:17.180 I don't know

00:33:17.660 where to put

00:33:18.180 you now,

00:33:18.700 dude.

00:33:19.380 It's like

00:33:19.840 it's this

00:33:20.140 Christian

00:33:20.440 Zionism thing.

00:33:21.400 Yes.

00:33:21.740 Yeah.

00:33:22.240 We're going

00:33:22.960 to touch on

00:33:23.340 that.

00:33:24.040 I'm also

00:33:24.500 very conflicted

00:33:25.340 about this

00:33:25.920 because now

00:33:26.760 revisiting my

00:33:29.020 ideas on

00:33:29.660 Israel,

00:33:30.320 especially

00:33:30.620 after being

00:33:32.200 in Matt's

00:33:33.060 shop and

00:33:33.460 talking with

00:33:34.020 Matt a lot.

00:33:35.260 I don't

00:33:35.980 hate Israel.

00:33:37.400 There is

00:33:37.700 extreme nuance

00:33:38.820 to be had to

00:33:39.380 this.

00:33:40.020 There is a

00:33:41.360 government

00:33:41.680 that's doing

00:33:42.380 wicked things.

00:33:43.020 There's people

00:33:43.520 that are doing

00:33:44.040 some stuff.

00:33:45.580 There is

00:33:46.120 God's remnant

00:33:47.080 that we should

00:33:47.780 be looking at

00:33:49.580 and being like,

00:33:50.080 hey, man,

00:33:50.600 many times in

00:33:52.040 the Bible,

00:33:52.440 you've gone

00:33:52.740 astray,

00:33:53.080 but you'll

00:33:53.320 come back.

00:33:53.760 We know

00:33:53.980 what prophecy

00:33:54.460 says.

00:33:55.280 What do you

00:33:55.840 do when they

00:33:56.300 start killing

00:33:56.760 your people?

00:33:57.740 And also,

00:33:58.140 what do you

00:33:58.480 do with this

00:33:59.360 idea of

00:33:59.760 Christian

00:34:00.000 Zionism or

00:34:00.780 Judeo-Christian

00:34:01.480 values when

00:34:02.200 we're told

00:34:02.660 not to be

00:34:03.740 yoked with

00:34:04.360 unbelievers?

00:34:05.540 That's a really

00:34:06.800 interesting thing.

00:34:07.200 But they are

00:34:07.220 believers.

00:34:07.760 Well, they're not

00:34:08.080 believers in

00:34:08.580 Christ.

00:34:09.260 Right.

00:34:10.420 That's what I

00:34:11.400 mean.

00:34:13.200 I'm not sure how

00:34:14.100 to square that.

00:34:15.080 It seems like that

00:34:15.760 shouldn't be a

00:34:16.280 thing, Judeo-Christian

00:34:17.280 values or

00:34:18.380 Christian Zionism.

00:34:20.080 You don't believe

00:34:20.940 in Christ, and

00:34:22.160 Jesus clearly says

00:34:23.320 the only way to

00:34:24.780 the Father is

00:34:25.580 through the Son.

00:34:26.420 But perhaps I'm

00:34:27.060 wrong, though.

00:34:27.540 I mean, perhaps.

00:34:28.960 Perhaps.

00:34:29.520 Perhaps.

00:34:30.080 Perhaps.

00:34:31.200 We should be

00:34:32.100 like, you know, if

00:34:32.900 Israel did make a

00:34:33.760 move, even if it

00:34:34.400 is on our

00:34:34.800 country, if that

00:34:35.400 truly is God's

00:34:36.280 people, are we

00:34:37.420 supposed to

00:34:37.840 support that?

00:34:38.480 Like, I'm super

00:34:39.280 conflicted because

00:34:40.040 immediately I want

00:34:41.240 to say no, but I'm

00:34:42.080 like, do I want to

00:34:43.200 be on the wrong

00:34:43.660 side of that?

00:34:44.380 Well, I think the

00:34:45.200 last thing I want to

00:34:45.760 say, and I want to

00:34:46.380 kick it to Ed, is

00:34:47.280 Ed really helped.

00:34:48.740 I want to make this

00:34:49.280 fast.

00:34:50.000 Ed really helped

00:34:50.780 my understanding of

00:34:52.620 that, where it's

00:34:53.120 like, blessing and

00:34:53.940 cursing Israel.

00:34:54.920 Does this mean

00:34:55.400 supporting the

00:34:56.160 government and

00:34:57.200 the military, you

00:34:58.520 know, actions and

00:34:59.660 supporting them

00:35:00.500 financially, or is

00:35:01.660 it a spiritual

00:35:02.460 thing?

00:35:03.540 Does it mean like

00:35:04.180 looking the other

00:35:04.780 way when they kill

00:35:05.460 your people, too?

00:35:06.140 I'm like, that's

00:35:06.700 the...

00:35:06.780 I think it means

00:35:07.340 like calling them

00:35:08.320 out, because Ed

00:35:09.080 has laid out to us

00:35:10.060 the many instances

00:35:10.940 where God is very

00:35:14.060 harsh in his

00:35:16.960 defining of the

00:35:18.200 Jewish people and

00:35:19.120 the way that they

00:35:20.060 misstep and, you

00:35:21.260 know, all their

00:35:21.780 shortcomings, the

00:35:22.460 way he judges

00:35:23.080 them.

00:35:24.420 Cora is a crazy

00:35:25.260 story, too.

00:35:26.400 Actually, that might

00:35:27.060 be in Exodus, so

00:35:28.260 that's not the book

00:35:29.360 of Genesis.

00:35:29.780 Maybe you'll get to

00:35:30.320 that soon.

00:35:31.180 Well, yeah, so

00:35:31.940 I mean, what are

00:35:32.660 your thoughts on

00:35:33.280 that, Ed?

00:35:34.260 Yes, yes, let's

00:35:35.000 jump into this.

00:35:35.480 This is one of the

00:35:36.080 things I want to

00:35:36.480 cover as my year

00:35:37.920 in review from the

00:35:38.580 Faith by Reason

00:35:39.240 Christian standpoint

00:35:41.420 was this, you

00:35:42.820 know, the big, huge

00:35:44.200 trend this year has

00:35:45.040 just been Zionism

00:35:46.000 versus the

00:35:46.440 anti-Zionist.

00:35:47.220 It's just really,

00:35:48.120 really coalesced this

00:35:49.260 year, more so than

00:35:51.140 it's been bubbling up

00:35:51.880 for a while, but

00:35:52.260 it's just like,

00:35:52.700 really, everyone's

00:35:53.360 taking a hard

00:35:53.980 stand one way or

00:35:54.640 the other.

00:35:55.180 There's very little

00:35:55.980 middle ground.

00:35:57.160 So let me just take a

00:35:58.400 step back before I

00:35:59.280 talk about the

00:35:59.800 Zionist versus the

00:36:00.280 anti-Zionist to kind

00:36:01.160 of address your

00:36:01.940 questions, where we

00:36:02.780 should stand with

00:36:03.200 Israel.

00:36:03.560 And I know we did a,

00:36:04.440 I did a Q&A on this

00:36:06.100 because I was getting

00:36:06.760 a lot of questions

00:36:07.560 similar to yours.

00:36:08.340 Where should we

00:36:08.620 stand on this?

00:36:09.080 We're told that God's

00:36:09.720 chosen people, but we

00:36:10.960 also see them doing

00:36:11.780 some shady stuff.

00:36:14.000 What should our

00:36:14.880 stance be?

00:36:16.080 And so two things.

00:36:17.480 Number one, Israel is

00:36:19.840 God's problem, not

00:36:21.620 ours.

00:36:22.780 That's the main

00:36:23.360 thing.

00:36:23.740 God will deal with

00:36:24.600 Israel because I

00:36:27.120 don't want to use the

00:36:27.600 word dispensations

00:36:28.260 because that gets

00:36:28.700 people into really,

00:36:30.080 because dispensations

00:36:30.740 is another huge thing

00:36:31.680 that maybe we can

00:36:32.120 talk about because we

00:36:32.820 did the whole thing

00:36:33.340 about the school

00:36:33.720 through the Bible.

00:36:34.820 You've already

00:36:35.260 explained.

00:36:36.300 Well, when I say

00:36:37.020 dispensations, I

00:36:37.600 don't mean

00:36:38.020 dispensationalism as

00:36:40.380 people couch it

00:36:41.640 today.

00:36:41.820 I just mean that

00:36:42.320 during different

00:36:42.840 periods of time,

00:36:43.600 God deals with

00:36:44.680 people differently.

00:36:45.240 I don't think you

00:36:45.680 can deny that no

00:36:46.420 matter what your

00:36:47.060 ideals are.

00:36:48.300 You know, Adam

00:36:48.920 and Eve had the

00:36:49.460 tree of the

00:36:49.760 knowledge of good

00:36:50.180 and evil.

00:36:50.720 We don't have

00:36:51.200 that.

00:36:51.540 That was how God

00:36:52.280 dealt with them.

00:36:53.220 This is how they

00:36:54.340 could choose God

00:36:54.880 or not.

00:36:55.300 We don't have that

00:36:55.920 tree right now.

00:36:57.140 Then you have the

00:36:57.820 patriarchs where you

00:36:58.720 had with, after the

00:37:00.460 earth was divided

00:37:01.640 into nations and God

00:37:02.840 told Abraham, I will

00:37:03.740 make you a great

00:37:04.200 nation and I will

00:37:05.060 bless them that

00:37:05.560 bless you and curse

00:37:06.400 them that curse you.

00:37:07.360 Well, that really

00:37:08.220 only lasted until

00:37:09.820 the law because

00:37:11.900 Egypt basically chose,

00:37:14.460 they chose, we're

00:37:15.020 going to curse them

00:37:16.840 by, we are going

00:37:17.400 to do them wrong

00:37:18.260 and we put them

00:37:19.440 in chains and we

00:37:20.600 made them slaves and

00:37:21.460 then God had to

00:37:22.120 judge that.

00:37:22.960 Then we get to the

00:37:23.560 error of the law

00:37:24.320 and the law got

00:37:26.400 dealt with the

00:37:27.320 nations, again,

00:37:28.460 through Israel,

00:37:29.260 through the nation

00:37:29.700 of Israel, but also

00:37:30.920 through the law

00:37:33.860 that he's given

00:37:34.400 them.

00:37:34.720 And so the whole

00:37:35.420 point of that was

00:37:36.240 if Israel obeyed

00:37:37.740 the law, they would

00:37:38.820 have been greatly

00:37:39.340 prospered, Deuteronomy

00:37:40.300 28, and other

00:37:41.500 nations would have

00:37:41.960 come to them and

00:37:42.380 say, hey, how are you

00:37:42.900 guys so prosperous?

00:37:43.660 Well, because we

00:37:44.340 obey the laws of

00:37:45.320 Jehovah, and if you

00:37:46.400 want to be prospered

00:37:47.100 too, you can obey

00:37:47.600 them as well.

00:37:48.120 They were supposed

00:37:48.540 to be God's

00:37:48.920 ambassadors.

00:37:49.820 But now we're not

00:37:50.540 under the law

00:37:51.040 anymore.

00:37:51.500 We're not

00:37:51.860 sacrificing doves

00:37:54.240 and lambs at an

00:37:56.920 altar.

00:37:57.960 We're not under

00:37:58.780 the law.

00:37:59.400 We're at the

00:38:00.500 church right now.

00:38:01.000 We're under grace,

00:38:02.000 which is the Holy

00:38:02.500 Spirit within us.

00:38:03.580 So he deals with

00:38:04.740 the world differently.

00:38:05.940 Right now, we are

00:38:06.900 in the church age.

00:38:07.940 Right now, God is

00:38:09.040 dealing with the world

00:38:09.620 through the church,

00:38:10.260 the great commission of

00:38:11.140 Jesus.

00:38:11.720 Before he ascended,

00:38:12.780 he said, go into all

00:38:13.500 the world and make

00:38:14.100 disciples of all men.

00:38:15.380 That is how he is

00:38:16.720 dealing with us now.

00:38:18.120 Now, the thing is that

00:38:19.320 Israel is not gone.

00:38:20.840 So that's another big

00:38:21.680 thing that churches do

00:38:23.680 is they say that the

00:38:24.740 church has replaced

00:38:25.560 Israel.

00:38:27.400 No, Israel and the

00:38:28.820 church.

00:38:29.340 Yes, the church is a

00:38:30.800 fulfillment of the

00:38:32.360 prophecies of Israel

00:38:34.120 because those prophecies

00:38:35.020 were fulfilled through

00:38:35.680 Jesus.

00:38:36.180 Jesus fulfilled the law

00:38:37.220 and the church, the

00:38:38.320 called out ones, come

00:38:39.260 through Jesus.

00:38:40.000 It doesn't mean that

00:38:41.120 the promises that are

00:38:43.340 separate that God made

00:38:44.400 to Israel are gone.

00:38:45.700 We know this by reading

00:38:46.780 the book of Romans,

00:38:48.000 Romans 9, 10, and 11.

00:38:49.920 Paul goes on in for

00:38:51.580 three chapters blatantly

00:38:52.680 saying God is not done

00:38:54.440 with the nation.

00:38:55.720 And by that, I don't

00:38:56.740 mean the political entity

00:38:58.700 of Israel.

00:39:00.260 He's talking about the

00:39:01.460 physical descendants of

00:39:02.980 Abraham, Isaac, and

00:39:04.020 Jacob, whoever they may

00:39:05.180 be.

00:39:05.880 God made unbreakable

00:39:07.360 promises to Abraham.

00:39:08.720 Abraham, if you go

00:39:09.620 back to the book of

00:39:10.240 Genesis, and we'll

00:39:11.060 cover this in my

00:39:11.560 Genesis study, God

00:39:13.780 made a promise to him

00:39:15.080 and then he fulfilled it

00:39:16.600 unilaterally.

00:39:17.160 It was non-conditional

00:39:18.040 because back then they

00:39:19.580 would have this ritual

00:39:21.180 where two people would

00:39:22.600 make a covenant and one

00:39:25.200 person would say, I'll do

00:39:26.760 X if you do Y.

00:39:28.200 And then they would take

00:39:29.260 animals, cut them in

00:39:30.640 half, and then they would

00:39:31.980 join hands and walk

00:39:33.220 between the, like a

00:39:36.420 figure eight, between

00:39:37.220 those sacrificed animals

00:39:38.800 as a blood covenant.

00:39:41.160 That's where you get the

00:39:41.880 term cutting a covenant

00:39:42.740 today.

00:39:43.400 You hear that, especially

00:39:44.380 in the military, because

00:39:45.480 you cut the animals in

00:39:46.140 half.

00:39:46.680 Well, what happened is

00:39:47.400 God made this covenant

00:39:48.280 with Abraham, said I'll

00:39:49.040 make you a great nation,

00:39:49.860 and then he put Abraham

00:39:51.120 to sleep, and God walked

00:39:52.740 between the animals

00:39:53.540 himself.

00:39:54.600 Abraham didn't walk

00:39:55.340 within me, which means

00:39:56.540 God is saying that I am

00:39:57.780 unilaterally making these

00:39:58.840 promises unconditional to

00:40:00.460 you, and he has to

00:40:01.300 fulfill those promises.

00:40:02.440 Romans 9, 10, and 11

00:40:03.740 is Paul saying God is

00:40:05.520 not done with his

00:40:07.200 people.

00:40:08.300 However, right now, we're

00:40:09.700 in the church, because

00:40:11.320 the first part of Romans,

00:40:12.340 the first eight chapters

00:40:12.980 are about their

00:40:13.860 spectacular doctrine in

00:40:15.540 Romans chapter.

00:40:16.120 If you want to know what

00:40:16.760 Christianity is, read

00:40:17.640 Romans 1 through 8, where

00:40:18.900 Paul goes systematically

00:40:20.080 and says, this is what

00:40:21.540 happened with the fall of

00:40:22.340 Adam, and then Israel,

00:40:24.320 and now we're in the

00:40:24.920 church, and this is what

00:40:27.380 the church is all about.

00:40:28.920 However, God's not done

00:40:30.280 with Israel.

00:40:30.620 He says, you know, is

00:40:32.160 God done with the Jews?

00:40:33.480 Absolutely not.

00:40:34.440 They're, and put it in

00:40:35.420 hockey terms, they're in a

00:40:36.220 penalty box right now, but

00:40:37.940 then the church age is

00:40:38.940 going to end, and I

00:40:40.760 believe that's going to

00:40:41.260 happen right before what

00:40:42.280 we call the tribulation,

00:40:43.340 and then Israel will be

00:40:44.780 brought back because God

00:40:45.900 has promises he needs to

00:40:47.000 fulfill.

00:40:47.620 The whole point of that

00:40:48.500 is right now where we are,

00:40:50.300 Israel is not our issue.

00:40:51.540 The Jews are not our

00:40:52.420 issue.

00:40:53.260 They're God's problem.

00:40:55.820 So as far as can we say

00:40:58.800 bad, not bad things, can

00:41:00.560 we criticize what's going

00:41:01.900 on with that particular

00:41:02.600 nation?

00:41:03.080 Of course we can, because

00:41:05.080 God did.

00:41:05.980 Not only did God speak, I

00:41:07.220 mean, read the book of

00:41:07.840 Jeremiah.

00:41:08.940 God just, he like really

00:41:10.500 just rails against them.

00:41:11.760 He calls, you know, you're

00:41:12.480 a bunch of stiff-necked

00:41:13.400 jerks.

00:41:14.120 I hate you.

00:41:14.780 You guys, I hate you

00:41:15.420 guys.

00:41:15.580 I can't, you guys just do

00:41:16.600 wrong all the time.

00:41:17.720 I'm just tired of you.

00:41:18.820 I'm angry at you.

00:41:20.020 He put them into exile for

00:41:21.220 70 years.

00:41:22.020 He had other nations come

00:41:23.200 and judge them.

00:41:24.140 The Assyrian Empire came

00:41:25.220 and like basically destroyed

00:41:27.740 the 10 northern tribes and

00:41:30.600 took them into captivity.

00:41:31.780 God didn't, not only did

00:41:33.040 God allow it, God wanted it

00:41:34.720 to happen.

00:41:36.180 Then, you know, then the

00:41:37.100 other, the two southern

00:41:38.440 tribes are taken into

00:41:39.100 captivity under Babylon.

00:41:41.080 People were killed.

00:41:43.080 So, you know, these people,

00:41:44.480 because they brought God's

00:41:45.400 promises.

00:41:46.240 God has, if saying something

00:41:48.840 critical of the nation of

00:41:50.580 Israel makes you an

00:41:51.800 anti-Semite, then Jehovah's

00:41:53.200 an anti-Semite, because he

00:41:55.740 said really harsh things

00:41:57.200 about them.

00:41:57.680 But however, he also said,

00:41:58.980 if you look, read the book

00:41:59.520 of Hosea, he has, I think

00:42:01.880 we talked about this before.

00:42:02.980 He had Hosea marry a

00:42:04.860 harlot, a prostitute, because

00:42:07.660 he knew, because he was, he

00:42:09.720 was using Hosea as an

00:42:10.520 example.

00:42:10.880 He says, you marrying this

00:42:11.900 prostitute is the equivalent

00:42:12.760 of me being with Israel.

00:42:13.840 He called Israel a whore.

00:42:15.460 Dang.

00:42:15.820 And because, and then she

00:42:17.360 had a bunch of kids out of

00:42:19.280 wedlock and, and Hosea was

00:42:21.840 told to stay with her.

00:42:23.200 Even though she was a

00:42:24.080 prostitute, even though she

00:42:24.840 was cheating on you, even

00:42:25.720 though she was having other

00:42:26.760 kids out of, out of your,

00:42:28.680 outside of your marriage, you

00:42:30.440 are to stay with her.

00:42:31.460 And then afterwards, you're

00:42:32.560 going to redeem her and

00:42:33.500 you're going to bring her

00:42:34.080 back.

00:42:34.640 This was an example of what

00:42:36.060 God was saying.

00:42:36.600 God was saying, Israel, you

00:42:37.480 guys are whores, but I'm

00:42:39.680 going to bring you back and

00:42:40.620 I'm going to comfort you.

00:42:41.360 And I'm going to fulfill my

00:42:42.220 promises to you.

00:42:43.320 I read it.

00:42:44.020 I read a tweet the other

00:42:44.840 day.

00:42:45.100 Sorry to interrupt.

00:42:45.720 It said, uh, Jesus, Jesus

00:42:47.220 was born a Hebrew or Jew for

00:42:49.600 the same reason that he was

00:42:50.540 born in a food trough.

00:42:51.960 And I'm like, man, that's

00:42:53.920 like, well, what were we

00:42:55.160 talking about recently?

00:42:56.180 We're maybe, maybe it

00:42:57.120 wasn't, maybe it was

00:42:57.540 something I came across, but

00:42:58.440 this idea that a manger, uh,

00:43:00.900 well, a manger is just like,

00:43:02.520 yeah, I mean, that's where

00:43:03.400 you would, if you're feeding

00:43:04.120 pigs through it, it's

00:43:04.860 disgusting.

00:43:05.520 Yeah.

00:43:05.620 But you would also put like,

00:43:07.580 uh, like in a stone manger is

00:43:09.720 what you would put a

00:43:10.320 sacrifice in.

00:43:11.240 Like that's what you would

00:43:11.980 put a lamb in.

00:43:12.920 I remember I was, maybe I'm

00:43:14.100 wrong about this, but I was

00:43:14.900 learning this recently.

00:43:15.720 It's like in a stone manger,

00:43:16.940 you would lay a lamb to be

00:43:19.220 sacrificed.

00:43:19.860 And so the idea that Christ

00:43:21.480 was born in one is like

00:43:23.820 super fitting.

00:43:24.760 I don't have the ability to

00:43:26.140 Google that right now, but

00:43:27.000 that's interesting.

00:43:27.480 I have to look that up.

00:43:28.020 And I know that a manger is,

00:43:29.060 is a feeding trough, but I,

00:43:30.480 I, I didn't know that you

00:43:31.700 could, I'm not, I'm not

00:43:32.660 saying you're wrong.

00:43:33.160 I can, I can look it up.

00:43:33.960 I hadn't heard that before.

00:43:35.320 That's an, well, it's

00:43:36.260 something that I'm not

00:43:36.840 going to have to look at.

00:43:37.240 You haven't heard it

00:43:37.760 because I just made it up.

00:43:38.860 I might've just, I might've

00:43:39.760 just totally did that.

00:43:40.900 Oh, somebody said that I

00:43:41.860 just read this too.

00:43:42.540 You're correct, David.

00:43:43.100 I don't know where the

00:43:43.600 hell I came.

00:43:44.740 I don't know where,

00:43:45.380 apparently other people

00:43:46.140 have learned this too.

00:43:47.060 I don't know.

00:43:47.400 Something must've gone

00:43:48.020 viral.

00:43:48.400 We must've seen this,

00:43:49.260 which doesn't mean that

00:43:50.140 it's true.

00:43:50.560 It might just be viral.

00:43:51.200 But anyway, this is a

00:43:52.980 really good segue into

00:43:55.060 something that's been kind

00:43:56.120 of weighing on me lately.

00:43:57.380 But he hasn't even gotten

00:43:58.240 to Zionism.

00:43:59.060 Oh, please.

00:43:59.460 No, continue.

00:43:59.920 Continue.

00:44:00.060 Okay.

00:44:00.300 Yeah.

00:44:00.420 Okay.

00:44:00.680 So, so that's, that's our

00:44:01.960 stance towards Israel.

00:44:02.740 We can condemn anyone who

00:44:04.320 does wrong.

00:44:05.120 God does it.

00:44:05.760 We should do it.

00:44:06.380 And we don't have to

00:44:07.300 excuse them because they

00:44:08.760 call themselves Israelis or

00:44:10.540 Israelites, whatever, whether

00:44:12.040 they are or not.

00:44:12.880 I mean, I still, I'm still

00:44:14.380 going back and forth over

00:44:15.600 if these people are

00:44:16.420 actually the physical

00:44:17.220 descendants, but it

00:44:17.900 doesn't matter.

00:44:18.280 It's, it's a political

00:44:19.440 nation and we don't have,

00:44:21.400 they do, they do not

00:44:22.140 deserve any special

00:44:23.080 deference from Christians

00:44:24.660 because that's not our

00:44:26.060 role.

00:44:27.180 You will not see anything

00:44:28.760 in the new Testament where

00:44:30.180 it says that we have to

00:44:31.300 give a special deference,

00:44:33.240 not only to any nation or

00:44:35.640 that calls itself Israel or

00:44:37.120 even to the Jewish people.

00:44:38.400 It doesn't say that.

00:44:39.360 It doesn't mean we have to

00:44:39.800 treat them badly.

00:44:40.540 But it's not saying that

00:44:41.660 we have to put them on a

00:44:42.560 pedestal.

00:44:43.500 That comes from, now, now

00:44:45.240 we get to the Zionist

00:44:46.020 versus the anti-Zionist,

00:44:46.980 including the Christian

00:44:47.740 Zionist.

00:44:49.480 And that comes from man,

00:44:50.500 right?

00:44:50.880 Man creating, you know, all

00:44:52.800 of these different rules,

00:44:54.320 regulations and, and, and

00:44:55.940 cultural movements.

00:44:57.420 Yeah.

00:44:57.640 And again, I'm going to be

00:44:58.580 honest with you.

00:44:59.020 I grew up in a, in a

00:45:01.180 Baptist denomination and

00:45:02.740 while not overtly Zionist,

00:45:04.540 it, it did, you know, they

00:45:06.160 did talk a lot about, you

00:45:07.240 know, Israel, God's people

00:45:08.400 and so forth and so on.

00:45:09.500 They're the good guys.

00:45:10.240 And all the Arabs are the

00:45:11.460 bad guys.

00:45:11.980 And it is, and my opinion

00:45:13.120 is just, you know, now is

00:45:14.480 there are no good guys.

00:45:15.980 You know, everybody over

00:45:17.540 there is, is a bad guy to

00:45:18.740 some degree.

00:45:19.280 I mean, you're, you're

00:45:19.820 killing children on both

00:45:21.840 sides.

00:45:22.240 You're not, you're not

00:45:23.040 good.

00:45:24.020 By the way, it does say

00:45:25.740 here.

00:45:26.120 So this is a Jewish

00:45:27.900 practice of raising an

00:45:29.440 unblemished lamb in

00:45:31.960 Bethlehem for temple

00:45:33.500 sacrifices.

00:45:34.180 So the same way you would

00:45:35.180 want like an unyoked red

00:45:37.000 heifer, the manger is, is

00:45:38.800 made to protect the lamb

00:45:40.180 from, from being just

00:45:41.640 like every other, every

00:45:42.980 other story in the Bible

00:45:44.000 that we read, it's like

00:45:44.960 multifaceted, but it

00:45:47.120 points at the same thing.

00:45:48.160 No, I love it.

00:45:48.660 I mean, that, that just

00:45:49.280 adds, yeah, again, it, it,

00:45:50.840 it just adds more

00:45:51.620 resolution to it.

00:45:52.420 I love that.

00:45:53.060 So, I mean, that's the

00:45:53.900 coolest thing.

00:45:54.620 That's one of the coolest,

00:45:55.340 I don't remember.

00:45:55.820 As to what you're saying,

00:45:56.780 Ed though, like the

00:45:57.420 sentiment now is like,

00:45:58.420 it's, it puts you in a

00:45:59.980 tricky spot because it's

00:46:00.960 growing and there actually

00:46:02.500 is action against you and

00:46:04.060 the American people, but I

00:46:05.120 we're not, we're not

00:46:06.220 called to like take our own

00:46:07.420 action against these

00:46:08.220 people.

00:46:08.460 And, and, and to Matt's

00:46:10.160 point is like, yo, if

00:46:11.760 that's God's people, if

00:46:13.080 there is even one of them

00:46:14.120 in Israel, I don't want to

00:46:16.200 have that kind of blood on

00:46:17.340 my hand.

00:46:18.340 You know what I mean?

00:46:19.160 Like, yeah, because if you

00:46:20.000 notice and you notice and

00:46:21.060 you, and you shake your

00:46:22.240 fist at some point when

00:46:23.400 you've laid out the crimes

00:46:24.260 of the Jews, the question

00:46:25.200 is now what, which is a

00:46:27.000 really dangerous question.

00:46:28.320 It's also like it, this

00:46:30.820 might be the same sort of

00:46:32.000 idea as like in the

00:46:33.780 garden when Eve tells God

00:46:37.060 that, no, Eve tells when

00:46:38.780 she's speaking with Satan

00:46:39.660 about the tree, she goes,

00:46:41.320 yeah, no, we're not

00:46:41.820 supposed to even touch it,

00:46:42.740 but God never said that.

00:46:44.080 Right.

00:46:44.380 Exactly.

00:46:45.500 Maybe Adam, this is

00:46:46.460 something like I would

00:46:46.920 talk with Matt about this.

00:46:47.660 Maybe Adam said that.

00:46:48.600 And it's one of these

00:46:49.380 things where it's like,

00:46:50.420 stay away from the tree.

00:46:51.600 Like, you tell your

00:46:52.560 kids, like, don't even

00:46:53.880 look at the fire.

00:46:55.320 You know what I mean?

00:46:55.800 Right, right, right.

00:46:56.040 Don't even look at it.

00:46:56.680 Don't even think about it.

00:46:57.700 Yeah.

00:46:57.980 You're trying to be extra

00:46:58.780 safe.

00:46:59.840 And I get it.

00:47:00.760 Extra rule.

00:47:01.500 Yeah.

00:47:01.760 And I'm not for, at least,

00:47:03.120 let's go bomb Israel or

00:47:05.220 anything like that.

00:47:05.700 I'm not saying that in the

00:47:06.760 least.

00:47:07.340 I'm saying that it's, I'm

00:47:09.040 letting God handle Israel

00:47:11.500 because that's, that's his

00:47:12.700 purview.

00:47:13.560 Well, but I will call out

00:47:14.760 perhaps, perhaps the church

00:47:16.960 has developed this idea of

00:47:18.480 like the strong Zionism

00:47:19.640 because they like, they

00:47:20.680 know, like, they're like,

00:47:21.560 these guys are going to do

00:47:22.600 some wild stuff.

00:47:23.920 Yeah.

00:47:24.100 But it's just like, Hey,

00:47:25.400 like if we have these

00:47:26.160 people just like supporting

00:47:27.160 them, no matter what, when

00:47:28.980 this wild stuff does happen,

00:47:30.300 they're not going to go and

00:47:31.280 make this error.

00:47:32.220 But it's like, this is not

00:47:33.320 acceptable either.

00:47:34.360 Cause now you're putting,

00:47:35.440 you know what I mean?

00:47:35.840 It's not.

00:47:36.460 So it's not the truth.

00:47:38.220 So we have, we have the two

00:47:39.500 sides.

00:47:39.780 We have, you know, the Zionists

00:47:41.420 obviously who are, are, are in,

00:47:44.020 in the land or who support the

00:47:46.260 land.

00:47:46.540 And then you have the

00:47:47.040 Christian Zionists who are,

00:47:49.120 like you said, they believe

00:47:49.620 that Israel can do no wrong.

00:47:50.820 And as I said, I grew up in a

00:47:51.880 church that, you know, didn't

00:47:53.100 overtly say that, but it was,

00:47:54.220 you know, kind of revered the

00:47:56.380 Jewish homeland for that

00:47:57.560 reason.

00:47:57.860 And I was even taught my, one

00:47:59.020 of my mentors, Chuck Missler,

00:48:00.280 he was very much very pro

00:48:01.760 Israel.

00:48:03.480 And we know whenever there was

00:48:04.860 a conflict between Israel or

00:48:06.640 any of the Arab neighbors, he

00:48:07.640 would always be on the side of

00:48:08.460 Israel.

00:48:08.860 And so, and, and because I was

00:48:10.260 following him and, you know,

00:48:11.160 and, and following the

00:48:12.060 mainstream news, I was like,

00:48:13.100 yeah, you know, the Arabs

00:48:13.960 are the bad guys or Israel

00:48:14.860 is this little tiny nation

00:48:15.780 and are always getting

00:48:16.340 attacked by these people who

00:48:17.800 are suicide bombing him,

00:48:18.840 which is wrong.

00:48:20.620 It's wrong to kill anyone.

00:48:22.960 So the, the Arab Muslims,

00:48:25.220 whoever who were suicide

00:48:26.040 bombers, they're wrong and

00:48:27.500 stupid.

00:48:27.800 Why don't you kill yourself

00:48:28.560 and kill other people?

00:48:29.580 That's, that's crazy.

00:48:31.260 They're wrong, but, you know,

00:48:33.060 also indiscriminately killing,

00:48:35.120 you know, people in, in Gaza

00:48:37.180 who aren't fighters, that's

00:48:38.460 wrong too, or starving them

00:48:39.300 out.

00:48:39.560 All these, we can call out

00:48:40.600 wrong.

00:48:41.260 So you have this one side

00:48:42.500 and you have, you know,

00:48:43.340 Christians and, and yes,

00:48:44.260 it does have some roots in

00:48:46.160 CI Schofield's commentaries

00:48:49.320 where, you know, he is very

00:48:50.600 much pro, pro Zionist.

00:48:52.960 So you have one side,

00:48:53.800 then you're on the other

00:48:54.420 side, you have the exact

00:48:55.560 opposite.

00:48:55.900 You have people who believe

00:48:58.400 that Israel can do no right,

00:48:59.600 that they are the great evil

00:49:00.900 in the world, that they're

00:49:02.080 responsible for everything.

00:49:03.080 They control the media and

00:49:04.740 they control, and they're the

00:49:06.860 ones who are funding some of

00:49:08.400 these Zionist, Christian

00:49:09.560 Zionist pastors.

00:49:10.240 And there may be some truth

00:49:11.540 to that.

00:49:11.900 I mean, I, I've learned a lot

00:49:13.540 this year that has been

00:49:14.420 disturbing because I, I, I

00:49:16.320 would tell you that maybe

00:49:18.080 before this year, maybe, you

00:49:19.380 know, the past few, five,

00:49:20.980 six, ten years ago, I was

00:49:22.500 probably more on Israel's side

00:49:24.120 than on the side of the, of

00:49:26.160 the, of the surrounding

00:49:27.040 nations because there are,

00:49:29.140 there are allies.

00:49:29.940 There's only so-called

00:49:30.900 democracy over there.

00:49:32.060 And, you know, the rest of them

00:49:33.120 are Muslims and Muslim, you

00:49:34.220 know, and Islam is not

00:49:35.420 compatible with Christianity.

00:49:36.480 You know, they're enemies of

00:49:37.540 Christianity.

00:49:37.960 So I was always on, if I had

00:49:39.800 to pick a side, I pick

00:49:40.540 Israel and say, hey, Israel

00:49:41.380 has the right to defend

00:49:41.960 themselves, which every

00:49:42.960 nation does.

00:49:43.860 But I've been learning more

00:49:45.620 and more about a lot of the

00:49:46.900 funding that's been

00:49:47.480 happening.

00:49:48.060 And it's interesting because

00:49:50.580 when you look at, so you

00:49:52.640 have extremes on both sides.

00:49:53.500 So you have extreme

00:49:54.140 anti-Zionists.

00:49:54.860 Israel can do no wrong on

00:49:56.540 one side, but the Zionists

00:49:57.900 and Israel can do no right

00:49:59.160 on, on, on, on the other

00:50:01.060 side.

00:50:01.740 And when I see that and I

00:50:03.100 take a step back and

00:50:03.980 everyone has to take a,

00:50:04.940 take a position.

00:50:06.080 And I never took a strong

00:50:07.120 position.

00:50:07.400 When I was in school,

00:50:08.040 you know, they have the

00:50:08.560 divest from Israel people

00:50:09.760 and you, then you have the

00:50:10.700 Jewish lobby on, on campus

00:50:12.720 saying their whole thing.

00:50:13.760 And I was just kind of, I

00:50:14.620 was just like, okay, well

00:50:15.520 I'm not going to get deeply

00:50:16.580 involved in anything because

00:50:17.360 I've got my own problems

00:50:18.340 here in the United States.

00:50:19.420 That's a foreign country,

00:50:20.720 you know, you deal with

00:50:21.660 your issues.

00:50:22.700 But when I take a step

00:50:23.900 back and this, I'm really

00:50:26.060 surprised more people,

00:50:27.060 especially in the truther

00:50:28.060 community, aren't seeing

00:50:29.120 this.

00:50:29.800 I'm seeing a Hegelian

00:50:30.840 dialectic.

00:50:32.400 So for those of your

00:50:33.640 viewers who may not be

00:50:34.640 familiar with what, what

00:50:35.820 that is, it's very

00:50:36.360 simple.

00:50:36.540 You have a goal.

00:50:38.660 You have powerful people

00:50:39.500 who want a goal.

00:50:41.200 And they know that goal is

00:50:42.720 not going to be palatable to

00:50:44.360 the majority.

00:50:45.220 The elites, they're a small

00:50:46.300 group of people, less than

00:50:46.980 1% of the population.

00:50:48.940 99% of us don't want what

00:50:50.480 they want.

00:50:51.000 So they can't overtly make

00:50:53.660 their goal happen without

00:50:54.960 support.

00:50:55.460 So what they need, what they

00:50:56.520 want.

00:50:56.780 So let's call their goal the

00:50:57.900 synthesis.

00:50:59.260 So what they'll do is they

00:51:00.320 will fund two sides that are

00:51:02.160 extremely distasteful.

00:51:04.480 So one side will, they'll fund

00:51:06.500 one side that's distasteful on

00:51:07.620 one end and the other side is

00:51:08.700 distasteful on the other end.

00:51:09.760 And there seems to be, they're

00:51:10.680 incompatible.

00:51:11.600 And then the elites come in and

00:51:12.840 say, well, let's take the good

00:51:14.720 from this side and what we like

00:51:16.220 from this side and what we like

00:51:17.080 from the other side.

00:51:17.700 And we'll just make a synthesis

00:51:18.520 to solve everyone's problem.

00:51:20.080 A good example of this is

00:51:22.160 capitalism versus communism.

00:51:24.120 So what the elites want, their

00:51:25.780 synthesis, they want world

00:51:26.960 government.

00:51:27.640 They want to be the rulers of

00:51:29.260 the world.

00:51:30.020 Well, nobody wants them to do

00:51:31.460 that.

00:51:31.700 And volume-wise, there are too

00:51:34.300 many of us to, they won't, we

00:51:36.200 will not submit to them.

00:51:37.340 So what do they do?

00:51:38.120 They fund two sides.

00:51:39.960 They fund capitalism, which

00:51:41.540 basically says that anyone can

00:51:42.960 be wealthy if you, you know,

00:51:45.080 if you work hard, blah, blah.

00:51:46.540 However, capitalism requires an

00:51:48.460 underclass.

00:51:49.180 Everyone can't be wealthy.

00:51:50.220 Only a few can be wealthy.

00:51:51.560 Everyone else has to work for

00:51:52.400 them.

00:51:52.920 But you can be, but you're not

00:51:54.820 going to be.

00:51:55.620 Then you have communism on the

00:51:56.960 other side that says everyone can

00:51:58.220 be equal, but you're going to be

00:51:59.800 equally poor because, you know,

00:52:01.480 wealth is a measurement of having

00:52:02.740 more than someone else.

00:52:04.280 So communism says, hey, everyone

00:52:05.500 can be equal.

00:52:06.100 We can all have the same thing,

00:52:07.160 but we're also all going to be

00:52:08.300 equally poor.

00:52:08.820 There's going to be no one

00:52:09.480 better than anyone else.

00:52:10.640 Those are the thesis and

00:52:11.880 antithesis.

00:52:12.820 The problem with communism, the

00:52:15.060 problem with capitalism, it

00:52:16.020 requires a underclass.

00:52:17.920 The problem with communism is

00:52:19.180 that it requires dictatorial

00:52:20.500 force to make people not take

00:52:22.680 anything more than what is the

00:52:25.360 bare necessities.

00:52:27.200 So no one likes, so what's,

00:52:28.920 what's the amalgamation?

00:52:30.100 The synthesis is, well, you need

00:52:34.560 to have people with the

00:52:36.820 opportunity to get whatever they

00:52:39.080 want.

00:52:39.540 However, you need a strong hand to

00:52:41.440 guide them.

00:52:42.140 That's the synthesis of world

00:52:43.660 government, but they fund both

00:52:45.360 sides.

00:52:46.760 So whenever you see two sides that

00:52:49.520 are against each other, then you

00:52:51.600 should ask who's funding both sides

00:52:53.100 and what is the synthesis?

00:52:54.220 So when I look at Zionists versus

00:52:57.940 anti-Zionists, I step back and I

00:52:59.440 say, that's a Galilean dialectic.

00:53:00.940 They're, people are being, they're

00:53:02.320 both well-funded.

00:53:04.420 The Zionists are well-funded.

00:53:06.160 The Christian Zionists are well-

00:53:07.500 funded.

00:53:07.820 They got a lot, a lot of money.

00:53:09.480 When you get to the Charlie Kirk

00:53:10.500 thing, one of the controversies is

00:53:12.080 that he was, he was, DPUSA was

00:53:13.980 getting a lot of money from so-called

00:53:16.040 Zionist organizations.

00:53:18.660 And there, there, the rumors out

00:53:20.840 that Kirk was like maybe kicking

00:53:23.060 against that.

00:53:23.780 And maybe that's, it has something

00:53:25.220 to do with his demise.

00:53:25.880 I don't know.

00:53:26.420 I haven't done the investigation,

00:53:28.020 but they, but that's one of the

00:53:30.380 rumors.

00:53:30.980 But I know a lot of these pastors

00:53:32.340 are getting money from Zionists

00:53:35.000 to, John Hagee is an example.

00:53:36.560 I used to listen to him a lot when

00:53:38.100 I was younger.

00:53:38.900 He is died in the world.

00:53:40.300 I don't know if he's, I think he's

00:53:41.300 still alive.

00:53:41.680 He's died in the world for that.

00:53:42.600 On the other side, you have well-funded

00:53:44.320 anti-ones.

00:53:45.340 You have anti-Zionists who are just,

00:53:47.680 vociferous now, Candace Owens,

00:53:49.300 Tucker Carlson, that idiot Fuentes,

00:53:51.400 who I'm like, by the way, how are

00:53:52.920 you a white supremacist with the

00:53:53.980 last name Fuentes?

00:53:55.320 But anyway, that's, that whole

00:53:57.380 dude is, is completely, I mean,

00:53:58.660 he's like, he hates women.

00:54:00.400 He hates like wife guys.

00:54:02.220 Like he's like basically this 90

00:54:04.800 pound obvious homosexual.

00:54:07.240 Yeah.

00:54:08.680 With a truly jacked up hairdo, by

00:54:10.500 the way, the whole thing is, is

00:54:12.460 very strange.

00:54:12.960 It's funny to see him do a little

00:54:13.920 bit of an about face on, on

00:54:15.540 Israel now.

00:54:16.260 So, well, this is something that I

00:54:18.460 am, I think, you know, when you're

00:54:21.240 talking about Hegelian dialectic, I

00:54:23.080 think you're hitting the nail on the

00:54:24.120 head, but I think it's a multi-layered

00:54:25.460 one.

00:54:25.980 Oh, it's so, it's so multi-layered that

00:54:27.800 it's like, well, let me, let me give

00:54:29.860 you my idea and I want to get your

00:54:31.120 opinions.

00:54:31.380 I know I'm talking, let me wrap this

00:54:32.660 up.

00:54:32.980 So when I look at this, my question is,

00:54:34.560 okay, I see Hegelian dialectic.

00:54:36.120 So I need to see, ask who is funding

00:54:37.940 both sides and what might the synthesis

00:54:39.520 be?

00:54:40.620 Well, okay.

00:54:41.440 Who is funding or where's the money

00:54:43.440 coming from for the anti-Zionist?

00:54:45.460 I see a lot of Catholic money there.

00:54:48.740 All the big time anti-Zionist, if you

00:54:51.120 dig a little deeper, they're Catholic.

00:54:53.080 Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, Tucker

00:54:55.500 Carlson is not overtly Catholic, but

00:54:57.480 he, I think he's Episcopalian, but he's

00:54:59.540 he's trending that way.

00:55:00.580 And a lot of them seem to have some

00:55:03.160 kind of Catholic or Orthodox backing

00:55:05.820 in the Catholic churches has a ton of

00:55:08.240 money.

00:55:08.420 The Vatican, I don't want to say, I

00:55:09.200 don't want to diss the Catholic people.

00:55:10.440 I have no problem with Catholic people.

00:55:11.580 We'll have a problem with the Vatican.

00:55:13.200 That's a lot of funding happening

00:55:14.340 there.

00:55:15.140 Okay.

00:55:15.340 That's pretty overt.

00:55:16.320 So if you look behind them, I see

00:55:17.660 the, I see the Vatican.

00:55:19.260 That's my thesis on that part.

00:55:21.200 Then you look at the Zionist.

00:55:22.520 Well, okay.

00:55:22.940 Well, where are they getting their

00:55:23.880 money from?

00:55:24.860 Well, Rothschilds and things like

00:55:26.540 that.

00:55:26.740 Okay, great.

00:55:27.200 The Rothschilds, where the very

00:55:29.220 wealthy trillionaires, where the

00:55:30.920 Rothschilds get their money.

00:55:32.620 You know, Meyer Amschel Bauer, who

00:55:34.780 became Lord Rothschild, he wasn't

00:55:37.380 just, he was, he was broke on the

00:55:38.960 streets.

00:55:39.440 Who funded him?

00:55:40.240 He got funded from other bankers

00:55:42.060 because they, some of the other

00:55:44.180 ancient, more ancient bankers went to

00:55:45.540 the background and they made him a

00:55:47.360 Jewish guy, the front, because, you

00:55:49.200 know, everyone hates bankers.

00:55:50.560 So let's put a Jewish person on the

00:55:53.640 front line so they can hate him.

00:55:55.900 His bankers were the Medici's and the

00:55:58.100 Orsinia's, the old Venice, bankers of

00:56:00.780 Venice.

00:56:01.520 Who were they bankers for?

00:56:02.820 The Medici's, Orsinia's, they were the

00:56:04.480 bankers for the Catholic church.

00:56:06.580 So if you take.

00:56:06.920 So it's just Ouroboro, like the snake

00:56:08.920 feeding itself.

00:56:10.100 Yeah.

00:56:10.300 If you go back, and this is history, this

00:56:11.600 is not something I'm making up.

00:56:12.800 You can, there are TV shows about the

00:56:14.260 Medici's.

00:56:15.040 They were the, they were the bankers of

00:56:16.180 the Catholic church.

00:56:16.880 Why?

00:56:17.100 Because it was against, the Catholics

00:56:19.780 could not charge usury, which is, you

00:56:21.600 know, they could not lend money at

00:56:23.100 interest.

00:56:23.640 So they just had front people do it.

00:56:25.900 The Medici's and Orsinia's did that.

00:56:28.100 They faded to the background.

00:56:29.220 You don't hear much about them anymore.

00:56:30.340 They're still there.

00:56:30.960 They're still powerful.

00:56:32.160 They're the black nobility.

00:56:33.100 They funded the Rothschilds.

00:56:34.980 So Zionist gets money from Rothschilds,

00:56:37.440 from Medici's, Orsinia's, Catholic

00:56:39.420 church.

00:56:40.420 So when I see who's funding both sides,

00:56:42.280 when you get to it, I see, I see the

00:56:44.160 Vatican funding both sides.

00:56:46.620 So what's the synthesis?

00:56:48.200 If you have, I hate Israel.

00:56:50.220 I love Israel.

00:56:52.120 What's the, what's the synthesis?

00:56:53.880 What, what is the, what is the

00:56:54.980 Vatican always wanted?

00:56:56.580 They want Jerusalem.

00:56:58.040 That's what they did the Crusades

00:56:59.380 for.

00:56:59.640 But, and who's behind the, the

00:57:01.820 Vatican, uh, fallen angels, the

00:57:05.840 fallen angels want Jerusalem because

00:57:07.200 there's no, Jerusalem has no

00:57:09.360 intrinsic value.

00:57:10.100 There's no oil there.

00:57:11.020 They're not even a coastal city.

00:57:12.160 They're, they're inland.

00:57:13.120 They don't, cause most major cities

00:57:14.460 are built on at a Harbor for trade.

00:57:17.240 There's nothing inherent about

00:57:19.000 Jerusalem that makes it valuable to

00:57:20.580 any logical human being.

00:57:22.140 It's valuable to God because that is

00:57:24.820 where his Holy mountain is the Mount

00:57:26.840 Moriah, where Abraham was going to

00:57:28.300 sacrifice Isaac.

00:57:29.320 It's the hill that Jesus was

00:57:30.560 crucified on.

00:57:31.400 It is the hill where Eden was the

00:57:33.720 guard.

00:57:34.380 I mean, it's not physically there.

00:57:36.140 Obviously it's in the spiritual realm.

00:57:38.380 Satan wants Jerusalem because that's

00:57:40.680 where God's Holy mountain is.

00:57:42.380 That city is sacred to God.

00:57:43.640 And if, and so at the very top of

00:57:45.720 the list, people say, well, who's

00:57:46.760 controlling the world?

00:57:47.560 Is it the 13th family?

00:57:48.560 Is it the Vatican?

00:57:49.240 No, it's fallen angels.

00:57:50.860 Fallen angels are the ones at the

00:57:52.140 top.

00:57:52.660 The Vatican is, is, are their people.

00:57:54.780 The Vatican's funding both sides of

00:57:56.200 this.

00:57:56.720 So I think the synthesis is, and we

00:57:58.500 get to this in the book of

00:57:59.180 revelation there, they want Jerusalem.

00:58:02.060 That's, that's going to be the

00:58:03.340 synthesis.

00:58:04.060 The Catholic church will run, come

00:58:05.340 in and say, look, you guys are

00:58:06.480 fighting over this land.

00:58:07.680 We'll, we'll take it and we'll make

00:58:10.040 and we'll, and we'll make sure that

00:58:12.700 the Gazans are, are, are protected,

00:58:14.460 but you know, Israel have a place

00:58:16.080 here too.

00:58:17.160 So everyone's, we'll have our two

00:58:18.920 state solution, but we'll broker the

00:58:20.320 deal because we're the Holy ones.

00:58:22.140 That's, this is my theory and my

00:58:23.960 theory only, but this is how, how I

00:58:25.560 see the Hegelian dialectic working.

00:58:27.220 That's the synthesis.

00:58:28.340 This is also something that I've

00:58:29.640 been guilty myself of even thinking,

00:58:31.860 or I don't even know.

00:58:32.480 I might've even like tweeted it, but

00:58:34.040 not like paying the J's.

00:58:35.860 No, no.

00:58:39.320 But about like, all right, if this

00:58:41.140 is a holding land, it is, it's where

00:58:42.920 Jesus was sacrificed as a blood

00:58:44.280 sacrifices is a mountain of God.

00:58:45.700 There's so much stuff that happened

00:58:46.780 in Jerusalem.

00:58:47.220 So there's something about that land,

00:58:48.780 that place there that is special.

00:58:50.920 Well, one quick thing.

00:58:51.440 Just give me, give me one second.

00:58:52.620 Cause I put, cause I put, I have

00:58:54.000 this in my, in my, my, my, my Bible

00:58:56.720 study.

00:58:57.160 The land is a character in the Bible.

00:59:00.220 Oh, right.

00:59:01.280 The land actually has some type of,

00:59:03.980 it's going to sound crazy, but Hey,

00:59:05.220 look where I am.

00:59:07.500 The land has some kind of sentience.

00:59:09.880 Yeah.

00:59:10.360 When Cain killed Abel, God said, when

00:59:13.200 Cain killed Abel, God said his blood

00:59:15.520 cries out from the ground.

00:59:17.380 It says, God tells the, um, the

00:59:20.560 Israelites said, if you don't, when

00:59:21.980 you go through the promised land, if

00:59:22.900 you disobey me, the land will vomit

00:59:24.560 you out.

00:59:26.660 So the land is a character.

00:59:28.240 It has some type of awareness, some

00:59:30.400 kind of sentience, something is

00:59:31.340 special, spiritually special about

00:59:33.020 that land.

00:59:33.600 And that's why the fallen angels

00:59:35.100 want it.

00:59:35.600 So go ahead, top.

00:59:37.340 Yeah.

00:59:37.740 I was just looking up, uh, even,

00:59:40.060 even like the story of Korah, which

00:59:41.500 we mentioned before where the, the

00:59:43.780 earth opened up and just ate a bunch

00:59:45.100 of people.

00:59:45.540 That's also there.

00:59:47.280 Yeah.

00:59:48.580 There's something about this, that

00:59:50.180 specific place.

00:59:51.240 Yep.

00:59:51.900 And then I guess I make the mistake

00:59:53.760 of going like, well, who should be in

00:59:55.000 this place?

00:59:56.020 Believers of Jesus Christ.

00:59:57.500 Right.

00:59:57.940 Like, I don't know the people who

00:59:59.960 actually worship the one true God,

01:00:02.680 the one that, that belongs to.

01:00:05.120 And you know what?

01:00:06.360 It's one of those things where it's

01:00:07.480 like, yeah, I'll call for that.

01:00:08.520 And then they'll give it to you, but

01:00:09.600 it'll be the Catholic church.

01:00:11.000 And then I'll go, Oh no.

01:00:12.920 And there's nothing, honestly,

01:00:14.100 there's nothing we can do anyway.

01:00:15.540 There's really nothing you can do

01:00:16.580 from stopping this.

01:00:17.340 But like, I think we're watching

01:00:18.800 that happen.

01:00:19.360 You're watching them be inserted in

01:00:21.780 there, put in there, whether they

01:00:23.420 are the same Jews or not, but it

01:00:25.540 might not even matter.

01:00:27.080 I don't think it does matter.

01:00:28.280 I mean, then they'll take them out

01:00:29.300 and do a little switcheroonie.

01:00:30.740 Well, it's not that it doesn't

01:00:31.780 matter.

01:00:32.540 It matters, but it's like, what is

01:00:34.300 our, well, what does it matter if

01:00:35.620 like, if you put a counterfeit there

01:00:37.080 or if you put the real thing there,

01:00:39.080 well, it's just a placeholder for,

01:00:40.620 for the Antichrist to come in and

01:00:42.660 set up and set up his temple.

01:00:44.060 Right.

01:00:44.400 Right.

01:00:44.900 So in that way, it matters, right?

01:00:46.640 Like this is the thing that

01:00:47.500 progresses.

01:00:48.620 There's no way to tell anyway.

01:00:49.600 I mean, another thing that's

01:00:50.800 interesting as well, Israel has

01:00:52.200 like pretty strict laws.

01:00:53.260 I just found out against like 23

01:00:54.720 and me and other kind of DNA

01:00:56.100 testing.

01:00:57.100 Really?

01:00:57.440 They don't allow it to happen to

01:00:58.660 their own populace?

01:00:59.540 Is that what you're saying?

01:01:00.080 So the misconception is that it's

01:01:01.560 not, it's not illegal in Israel.

01:01:03.240 This is one of those little, very

01:01:04.520 funny things that they love to do.

01:01:05.820 Just within the fish wire.

01:01:07.280 No, no.

01:01:07.560 It's, they said, they said you like

01:01:08.960 you can ship it to there, but it's

01:01:10.200 got to be for like, like approved

01:01:11.780 medical purpose or something like

01:01:13.320 that.

01:01:13.460 But you just can't do it like

01:01:14.440 recreationally.

01:01:15.440 Really?

01:01:15.980 Yeah.

01:01:16.220 I think that would, that would

01:01:17.540 really, again, not that it

01:01:19.520 matters the lineage of the people

01:01:21.360 that are actually there because I'm

01:01:22.280 sure it's all mixed up.

01:01:23.480 Very suspicious though.

01:01:24.280 Well, yeah, that's the whole, but

01:01:26.300 that's the whole point of this.

01:01:27.300 So whether there is a counterfeit

01:01:28.620 there or not, I think that maybe

01:01:29.980 Ed is, is pointing at the right

01:01:31.920 thing where it's like, they're

01:01:33.060 going to get, they're going to get

01:01:34.220 taken out of there because it's

01:01:35.500 like one hand, the left hand is

01:01:37.060 like push them in and then

01:01:38.540 exposed all this crazy stuff that

01:01:40.640 they're doing.

01:01:41.020 There's a reason why we're seeing

01:01:42.000 it.

01:01:42.520 And then the right hand is going to

01:01:43.480 come in and take them out and

01:01:45.260 most people will cheer for it.

01:01:46.960 Yeah.

01:01:47.160 You know, and there will probably

01:01:48.160 be one, like a thing that they do

01:01:49.900 that even the fundamentalist

01:01:52.840 Christians that are Zionist and

01:01:54.360 disavow.

01:01:55.400 Yeah.

01:01:55.660 That they got it.

01:01:56.340 That they'll eventually go.

01:01:57.400 Yeah.

01:01:57.720 Well, that's what that guy used to

01:01:58.800 say.

01:01:59.020 Cliff.

01:01:59.260 Hi.

01:01:59.440 He was like, they're going to bomb a

01:02:01.140 nuclear facility in Iran and then

01:02:03.260 cover a third of the planet in

01:02:04.600 nuclear fallout.

01:02:05.440 Which is why I'm like, I'm

01:02:07.880 arguing with Eric Gilbert and I'm

01:02:09.140 like, hey man, even if they bombed,

01:02:10.820 even if they bombed, you know, an

01:02:13.160 American ship and he's like, I'm

01:02:15.200 still support Israel.

01:02:16.280 And maybe he's right now because

01:02:18.300 you're, we're in such a situation

01:02:20.240 that there is no real correct answer

01:02:22.820 here.

01:02:23.160 We're headed.

01:02:23.760 The criticizing Israel, which I

01:02:25.360 think is fair, is admittedly a

01:02:27.460 slippery slope where if you just

01:02:29.180 sing their praises, you're going to

01:02:30.820 be all right.

01:02:31.420 You're not going to, yeah, but

01:02:32.500 you're not going to make the

01:02:33.640 mistake of, I don't know, casting

01:02:36.680 a judgment that's going to end in

01:02:38.440 the persecution.

01:02:39.020 You'll just make the mistake of

01:02:39.800 fulfilling biblical prophecy to

01:02:41.380 bring about the answer, Christ.

01:02:42.480 Yeah.

01:02:42.920 There's no right answer unless

01:02:44.540 we're looking like, no, there is

01:02:45.840 a right answer.

01:02:46.460 It's the Great Commission.

01:02:47.540 We're, we're called to spread the

01:02:48.700 gospel.

01:02:49.560 That's the right answer.

01:02:50.400 We're called to make disciples of

01:02:51.560 men.

01:02:51.780 So my, I think the right answer is

01:02:53.880 if you pray to God, thy will be

01:02:55.740 done.

01:02:56.560 That is the only right answer.

01:02:58.720 Yeah.

01:02:58.960 Um, one of the things, one of the

01:03:01.960 things I see coming from this, you

01:03:03.820 know, that's a potential that I

01:03:05.780 hadn't even considered.

01:03:06.640 And I, and I, now that you've laid

01:03:08.060 that out that way.

01:03:08.780 That the church, and think about

01:03:10.260 the self, think about the

01:03:11.360 elation.

01:03:12.500 Oh my God.

01:03:13.140 Yeah.

01:03:13.440 Not just the Catholics.

01:03:14.400 I mean, it would be a huge W on

01:03:16.140 the internet, right?

01:03:17.060 The Orthodox, they don't

01:03:18.340 particularly like the, um, the

01:03:20.500 Catholic church, but they would be

01:03:21.680 ecstatic to see Christianity take

01:03:23.620 over the homeland of

01:03:25.180 Christianity and kind of me too.

01:03:27.000 Um, yeah, well, they, they've

01:03:28.540 been, I mean, again, look at what

01:03:29.560 they've been trying, they were

01:03:30.420 trying to do for like, you know,

01:03:31.180 the last thousand years with the

01:03:32.280 crusades.

01:03:32.880 They were, they, why were the,

01:03:34.460 what were the crusades there for?

01:03:35.340 To take the Holy land.

01:03:36.340 Well, they couldn't take it by

01:03:37.180 force.

01:03:37.820 They kept getting, you know, going

01:03:39.300 back and forth with, with the,

01:03:40.400 with the Catholic.

01:03:41.400 Okay.

01:03:41.680 We can't do it by force.

01:03:42.520 Well, we'll do it another way.

01:03:43.840 Well, and I think this Hegelian

01:03:45.340 dialectic is the way, because

01:03:47.000 again, this could be wrong.

01:03:49.360 I could be totally off kilter, but I

01:03:50.940 do believe this is a Hegelian

01:03:52.200 dialectic.

01:03:52.780 I could be wrong as far as who's

01:03:54.220 funding it and who's, who's coming

01:03:56.040 in for the synthesis.

01:03:56.640 But that's what I see when I look

01:03:58.220 at who's, who could be funding

01:03:59.240 both sides, because some of these

01:04:00.880 people should not be platformed.

01:04:02.620 I'm like, how are you getting this

01:04:03.480 many followers?

01:04:04.320 It's artificial.

01:04:05.520 But the point is my, my only, my,

01:04:08.580 not my only, but my main source

01:04:10.380 for backing this up is the, the

01:04:13.200 greatest source of truth, the Bible.

01:04:14.840 We just know that in the end times,

01:04:16.820 the Antichrist is going to be in

01:04:18.640 the temple claiming himself to be

01:04:20.040 God.

01:04:20.260 So there will be a messianic figure

01:04:23.040 who is accepted by the Jews and who

01:04:26.340 is accepted by the world.

01:04:28.240 There's your synthesis.

01:04:29.160 Who's going to say, I am God and

01:04:31.560 stand in the temple and he's going

01:04:33.300 to be worshiped.

01:04:34.380 So that's the ultimate goal, whether

01:04:35.920 it's done by the Vatican or someone

01:04:37.240 else, eventually someone is going to

01:04:39.400 unite that area.

01:04:40.560 The Jews are going to like him at

01:04:41.800 first and the world is going to love

01:04:43.480 him.

01:04:44.280 Yeah.

01:04:44.780 So it's going to happen.

01:04:46.080 Tom Horne, Steve Quill and Timothy

01:04:47.980 Alvarino all say that it's going to

01:04:49.760 come through disclosure and that the

01:04:51.620 Vatican is going to aid in that

01:04:53.060 disclosure.

01:04:53.880 Oh, well, the Vatican, they already

01:04:56.560 said that when they see an alien,

01:04:57.740 they're going to, when they see them,

01:04:58.680 if they encounter an alien, they're

01:04:59.960 going to baptize it into the

01:05:01.200 Catholic church.

01:05:02.220 They've said that they're on record

01:05:04.120 as saying that would be their

01:05:05.440 stance.

01:05:05.820 If there is, you know, life from

01:05:07.440 another planet, they'll baptize it.

01:05:09.280 So I just, they're positioned well.

01:05:10.980 And the reason they're positioned well

01:05:12.080 is because they're not overtly on

01:05:13.960 either side.

01:05:14.580 I think they're covertly on, on, on,

01:05:17.940 on both sides.

01:05:19.080 You don't see them directly.

01:05:20.120 So they don't, they're not the bad

01:05:21.560 guys here.

01:05:21.940 They kind of step, they're the most,

01:05:23.480 one of the most powerful, if not the

01:05:24.820 most powerful institutions on earth.

01:05:27.200 And funny how they're just not in this

01:05:29.340 fray at all.

01:05:31.000 Except they are.

01:05:32.000 Yeah.

01:05:32.560 It's, they are.

01:05:33.480 They're busy engaging in the, in the

01:05:35.500 goddess worship, the divine feminine.

01:05:37.120 So this actually leads into more of the

01:05:40.640 2025 year in review.

01:05:42.160 So with that, we've got this extreme

01:05:44.480 push towards Christianity or what, I

01:05:46.540 don't know what it is.

01:05:47.400 I'm looking at like TPUSA with the

01:05:48.860 fireworks and all this stuff and the

01:05:50.080 guy holding up the rosary.

01:05:51.320 Are you ready to grieve?

01:05:52.900 I don't know.

01:05:53.940 Are you ready to grieve?

01:05:55.340 And again, I'm not trying to like trash

01:05:57.380 churches or mega churches with the

01:05:59.600 smoke.

01:05:59.820 We got smoke machines in here.

01:06:00.940 Hell yeah, we got a fog machine,

01:06:02.040 baby.

01:06:02.540 Lights.

01:06:03.140 I think smoke machines are biblical.

01:06:04.960 I think, I think light shows are kind

01:06:06.680 of biblical too.

01:06:07.620 Like, you know, when, when those

01:06:10.300 people saw when Jesus was born and

01:06:12.320 the angels were in the sky, it was

01:06:13.280 probably like a light show.

01:06:14.200 There's probably fog.

01:06:15.060 I'm pretty sure there was in the

01:06:16.040 manger, there was a fog machine.

01:06:17.260 Oh yeah.

01:06:18.140 Hopefully it was not an air horn.

01:06:19.320 I hate those things.

01:06:20.620 The baby was sleeping.

01:06:25.360 So we, uh, we have this weird idea of,

01:06:28.400 of Christianity, whatever it is and

01:06:30.220 people flocking to it.

01:06:31.340 Yeah.

01:06:31.600 Yeah.

01:06:32.000 But we also have that idea of Jesus

01:06:34.680 plus, and we were talking about pre-show

01:06:36.300 and that leads into a kind of a big

01:06:38.320 moment on, on, on our show with Ed

01:06:41.320 Mabry.

01:06:42.260 Um, we had Jason Demichuk.

01:06:43.720 Oh, wait, wait, wait.

01:06:44.240 There's something I have to touch on.

01:06:45.640 I had it written down.

01:06:46.380 I was trying to insert it before we

01:06:47.960 got there because, uh, I thought you

01:06:50.320 were actually going here, but that's

01:06:51.360 the number one.

01:06:52.060 Um, so, so within the Segalian

01:06:53.800 dialectic and things that are, are, are

01:06:55.400 hoped to be achieved by this, you

01:06:57.000 know, synthesizing.

01:06:58.440 Um, one of the things that I'm

01:07:00.140 realizing seems like what they're

01:07:02.560 doing is if you make everybody

01:07:05.800 notice the Jews and everybody's

01:07:07.220 aware of the crimes of the Jews and

01:07:08.500 everybody begins to stew in their

01:07:10.000 hatred for the Jews.

01:07:11.380 Stu Peters in their hatred.

01:07:12.420 Stu Peters in their, um, you know,

01:07:16.680 what, what ends up happening is

01:07:18.220 Christians get caught up.

01:07:20.140 And I was caught up in this place.

01:07:21.620 I didn't know, you know, still a baby

01:07:22.880 Christian currently still so much to

01:07:25.200 learn.

01:07:25.480 I was in a much worse place only

01:07:27.340 months ago.

01:07:28.160 And it's like, what you then have to

01:07:30.380 do is try to, uh, compartmentalize

01:07:33.200 Jews and the Jewishness of, of Jesus

01:07:36.800 Christ.

01:07:37.880 And what happens.

01:07:39.900 That's a fun one today.

01:07:40.960 When you remove the Jewishness of

01:07:44.500 Jesus Christ.

01:07:45.580 And, and, and it seems to me what

01:07:47.760 could be achieved by doing that.

01:07:49.440 Let's say you have this new era of

01:07:51.740 based Christianity who is willing to

01:07:53.580 argue to the death of them that like

01:07:56.360 Jesus wasn't a Jew, which almost is,

01:07:59.080 is a moot point.

01:07:59.920 I mean, he's not issuing, uh, predatory

01:08:02.540 loans.

01:08:02.940 He's not running a pornography company.

01:08:04.660 He's not, you know, at the head of

01:08:06.920 Hollywood, none of these things are

01:08:08.300 happening.

01:08:08.680 That's not what you did, what Jesus

01:08:10.080 is advocating for.

01:08:11.680 However, is there a danger in

01:08:14.260 separating the Jewishness of Jesus

01:08:16.720 Christ from, you know, the Messiah?

01:08:18.920 And is that danger then that he is now

01:08:21.280 open for interpretation, which leads

01:08:23.560 to this antichrist thing, right?

01:08:25.300 Where it's a, it's a Jesus, but of a

01:08:27.860 Pleiadian variety, or it's a Jesus of

01:08:30.220 an ascended master variety.

01:08:31.900 It's a Jesus who was not called

01:08:34.040 rabbi, who was not Jewish.

01:08:35.920 It's a Jesus that like with the

01:08:37.860 teachings of Buddha, that kind of

01:08:40.080 idea.

01:08:40.520 Right.

01:08:41.140 And so are like, is that also part of

01:08:44.040 this?

01:08:44.260 And, and I got, I know I say it every

01:08:46.200 time, but I have to give flowers where

01:08:47.460 flowers are due.

01:08:48.280 This is coming from, uh, Donnie

01:08:50.640 Darkin.

01:08:51.020 At least this is where I've seen it.

01:08:52.420 Donnie, Donnie Darkin is a guy who is,

01:08:56.600 is saying this loudly and it's forcing

01:09:00.400 me to tango with that.

01:09:02.160 Well, what does happen when you remove

01:09:04.500 that element from Jesus Christ?

01:09:06.140 What then can take its place?

01:09:07.860 And I feel like that could well be one

01:09:10.360 of the things that they hope to achieve

01:09:11.800 by this.

01:09:12.960 Yeah.

01:09:13.440 Well, it really, it goes back to what I

01:09:14.840 said we were talking about at the very

01:09:16.240 beginning of the show is that purpose is,

01:09:18.280 is knowing God, knowing Jesus, who they

01:09:21.240 are, so you know who they're not.

01:09:22.460 And the best way to deceive anyone about

01:09:25.580 any aspect of the Bible is to, is to

01:09:28.700 present it as something that it's not.

01:09:30.900 If you present Jesus as someone who is

01:09:32.360 not Jew, who is not a, a physical

01:09:35.100 descendant in his, um, in his, uh, lineage

01:09:37.960 from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

01:09:40.120 Well, yeah, then you can make him anything

01:09:41.260 you want.

01:09:42.160 It's like when you take a verse out of

01:09:43.440 context.

01:09:43.840 And I talk about this a lot when I talk

01:09:45.720 about it in my little season debates.

01:09:47.300 It's like, you know, my, one of my big

01:09:48.540 issues with this is they take, they'll

01:09:50.060 cherry pick a few verses here and there

01:09:51.780 completely out of context.

01:09:53.600 You can do that with anything.

01:09:54.680 I mean, I give the example, you know,

01:09:55.780 there's the, the verse in Psalms where

01:09:57.200 it says, you know, the Lord is my rock

01:09:58.900 and my salvation.

01:09:59.900 Well, if you take that out of context, oh,

01:10:01.540 you're saying God is a rock.

01:10:02.840 So every time I see a rock, I see God.

01:10:04.400 So if I worship nature, I'm worshiping

01:10:05.680 God.

01:10:06.260 Well, we know that's not true because in

01:10:07.480 context, first of all, it's poetry.

01:10:09.120 It's, it's, you know, so it's not saying

01:10:10.640 that God is a physical rock.

01:10:12.660 And also, you know, so if we, and also the

01:10:15.060 language of the time, you know, a rock is

01:10:16.240 a steady place.

01:10:16.860 It's just basically saying that God is,

01:10:19.200 you can rely on God.

01:10:21.020 So you have to keep it in context.

01:10:22.340 But if you take it out of context, you

01:10:23.920 can add, you can make it mean anything

01:10:25.140 you want.

01:10:26.120 So if you take Jesus out of the context

01:10:27.940 of being a Hebrew, an Israelite, well,

01:10:31.820 then you can make him anything you want

01:10:33.000 to make him.

01:10:34.180 But if you keep him in the context that

01:10:36.060 he is the Jewish Mashiach, no matter

01:10:38.980 what you happen to think about the Jewish

01:10:40.640 people, then you have to understand that

01:10:42.880 he's fulfilling the specific laws that

01:10:45.180 God has made.

01:10:46.420 So that's why when, that's why I say the

01:10:48.940 difference between reading the Bible and

01:10:50.200 studying it, reading it, you can make it

01:10:51.540 mean anything you want.

01:10:52.240 If you study it, that means you're putting

01:10:53.380 it in context and in doctrine, and that

01:10:55.240 limits you.

01:10:56.640 So Jesus cannot be a Pleiadian.

01:10:59.400 He cannot be an ascended master.

01:11:01.640 He cannot be what the Muslims say he is.

01:11:03.800 He says he's a prophet second to, to,

01:11:06.460 to Muhammad.

01:11:07.820 No, you don't have that liberty.

01:11:09.600 If you read what, if you see who he is

01:11:11.780 in context, he is a descendant of Abraham

01:11:14.340 specifically because God made those

01:11:16.820 promises to, um, to, um, the, the, his

01:11:20.000 descendants, and he is a fulfillment of

01:11:22.420 the law, meaning that he, Jesus will not

01:11:24.260 do anything that contradicts the law.

01:11:26.540 Jesus will not contradict anything else

01:11:28.140 in the Bible.

01:11:28.900 That's why when someone says, oh, I'm a

01:11:30.180 new Testament Christian, cause the old

01:11:31.300 Testament is bad and evil.

01:11:32.540 You can't, you don't have the liberty of

01:11:33.920 doing that.

01:11:34.700 Jesus said that the behold, I come in the

01:11:37.460 volume of the book is written of me.

01:11:39.740 He is the word.

01:11:40.460 He's a logos.

01:11:40.980 That means that Genesis, Exodus, all of

01:11:43.360 that is Jesus.

01:11:45.500 You can't divorce him from that.

01:11:47.360 And so those are the guardrails.

01:11:49.020 So when, so this is where, where, how

01:11:50.920 you fight against deception is by saying

01:11:52.780 if someone says, Jesus is this, okay,

01:11:54.660 great.

01:11:55.360 Let me look at all the prophecies of

01:11:56.760 Jesus in the old Testament.

01:11:58.180 Did, is it say he was our space

01:11:59.600 brother?

01:12:00.020 No.

01:12:00.880 Does it say that he came to give us a

01:12:02.280 message of love and to teach us how to

01:12:04.200 be God and to she, and to see the

01:12:06.380 little God inside of ourselves?

01:12:07.480 No, he came because we are fallen.

01:12:11.040 We are sinful.

01:12:12.000 We deserve death.

01:12:13.400 He died in our place and, and can give

01:12:15.940 us infinite life back.

01:12:18.280 That's what, so you have to limit

01:12:20.060 yourself to that.

01:12:20.660 So to answer the question, yes,

01:12:23.380 absolutely.

01:12:23.760 If you divorce him from any fact about

01:12:25.760 him, then that opens up a crack that

01:12:28.140 you can fill in with something else and

01:12:29.780 you alter him.

01:12:30.460 So that's why it's so important to know

01:12:32.480 exactly who he is, exactly what the

01:12:34.920 doctrine is and all the context.

01:12:36.640 And it is not easy.

01:12:37.740 It takes a ton of study.

01:12:39.400 I mean, if I live another 30 years and

01:12:42.500 study the Bible every day, I still

01:12:43.640 won't have it all, but you have to keep

01:12:46.120 studying.

01:12:46.600 You have to keep knowing who he is more

01:12:48.680 and more.

01:12:49.040 And that's, I think what we're trying to

01:12:50.380 do here.

01:12:51.100 This is really interesting.

01:12:52.480 The attacks of, of Satan or the

01:12:55.840 adversary, the deceiver are so, what's

01:12:59.580 the word?

01:13:00.060 They're so like complicated that you

01:13:04.220 don't clever.

01:13:05.380 They're either clever.

01:13:06.760 Like sometimes you underestimate it

01:13:08.360 because there are a lot of ham

01:13:09.320 fisted things that are done by this

01:13:11.580 other side.

01:13:12.100 And you're like, shut up.

01:13:12.760 That's like, that's so stupid that

01:13:14.560 it's laughable.

01:13:15.260 But this one here, it's like, here are

01:13:17.160 the crimes of Israel and the Jews laid

01:13:20.160 bare.

01:13:21.420 And then you go, yeah, checks out

01:13:22.900 looking at all that.

01:13:23.660 That's horrible.

01:13:24.520 And then you have some pagan coming

01:13:25.980 and going, so you worship, worshiping

01:13:28.160 a Jew.

01:13:28.680 Yep.

01:13:29.260 And then I guess the answer to that is

01:13:30.860 like, yes.

01:13:31.780 And yeah.

01:13:33.100 Yeah.

01:13:33.320 They're, they're like, but like, man,

01:13:35.020 do you see that deception there?

01:13:36.480 I don't know if Ed sees that.

01:13:37.600 That's all over Twitter.

01:13:38.600 That's all.

01:13:39.220 That's all.

01:13:39.600 No, I haven't seen it.

01:13:40.580 Yeah.

01:13:41.000 Dude, that is all over.

01:13:42.880 And it's making, especially if you're

01:13:44.560 a new Christian.

01:13:45.520 It's compelling.

01:13:46.020 It's compelling though.

01:13:47.060 It can be.

01:13:47.380 Oh shit.

01:13:47.920 Solid point, dog.

01:13:48.600 Then on the other side of that, you've

01:13:50.180 got like this other weird false

01:13:51.520 Christianity.

01:13:52.160 It's like almost nothing is pointing

01:13:53.180 at.

01:13:53.640 Well, I didn't know, I don't know if

01:13:55.780 this is true, but Chuck from Guam

01:13:57.140 said it.

01:13:57.500 So I'm going to go ahead and read

01:13:58.440 it.

01:13:58.680 And I do trust Chuck from Guam.

01:14:00.960 He said, Hitler said Jesus is not

01:14:03.480 Jewish, Galilee, not Jewish, and took

01:14:06.160 out hymns referring to his Jewishness.

01:14:08.560 That's fascinating because there's the

01:14:10.160 plot.

01:14:11.360 He's a pagan, a cultist, you know,

01:14:14.100 homosexual Rothschild or whatever.

01:14:15.920 This is why I say like ham fisted,

01:14:17.900 nothing new under the sun.

01:14:19.520 But that's such a great exemplification

01:14:22.640 of exactly that.

01:14:23.880 So you remove his Jewishness.

01:14:25.540 And then what are you into?

01:14:26.980 Well, you're into, you know, all of

01:14:29.340 these pagan gods and you're into, you

01:14:31.720 know, just basically Gnosticism.

01:14:34.460 I mean, you know, they're the sort of

01:14:37.380 the staple of a cultist when you think

01:14:39.340 about the, you know, who was really

01:14:40.920 close as a regime to understanding all

01:14:43.660 of the mysteries of the universe.

01:14:45.540 It's like the Nazis.

01:14:46.780 You know, we literally make movies

01:14:48.960 about them being in Antarctica and

01:14:51.680 flying UFOs and everything like

01:14:53.320 they're directly associated with that

01:14:55.220 kind of occulted, hidden knowledge.

01:14:57.160 They crack the code.

01:14:58.080 And what do they do?

01:14:59.280 Well, he's not Jewish.

01:15:00.460 So let's remove that element from it.

01:15:02.180 Like, yeah, dude, there it is.

01:15:03.560 That's what they do is.

01:15:04.760 And this is really important.

01:15:05.940 I mean, you can go through my Bible

01:15:08.220 study with me on Patreon if you want

01:15:09.620 to.

01:15:09.740 That's awesome.

01:15:10.100 But I will give you the cheat code

01:15:11.600 that will help you avoid deception.

01:15:15.360 So not only do you have to know God

01:15:17.100 and Jesus, but you also have to know

01:15:18.540 how Satan works.

01:15:20.320 And he is consistent.

01:15:21.320 He has no imagination.

01:15:22.540 Once you're judged by Jehovah, you

01:15:23.920 no longer have a free will.

01:15:25.080 You are locked into doing what you do.

01:15:27.240 Satan has done the same thing over

01:15:29.060 and over again.

01:15:30.500 And it's not just deception.

01:15:32.800 This is where I get into arguments with

01:15:33.840 the little seasoned people, because if

01:15:34.980 you have believed that we're in that

01:15:35.940 season, basically Satan is virtually

01:15:37.520 omnipotent because he's hidden history.

01:15:39.560 He's made Jesus go away, all this kind

01:15:42.120 of stuff.

01:15:42.340 He's not that powerful.

01:15:44.140 In the Bible, the only thing Satan

01:15:45.580 does is deceive.

01:15:46.540 How does he deceive?

01:15:47.500 By being grandiose and thunder and

01:15:49.740 lightning and being a guy in a red

01:15:51.640 suit, maniacally laughing?

01:15:53.500 No.

01:15:54.020 He takes a verse of scripture and he

01:15:56.080 twists it just a little bit.

01:15:58.200 What did he do with Eve?

01:15:59.580 He asked a question.

01:16:00.480 Did God say, you know, you can eat

01:16:04.080 of any fruit?

01:16:05.060 Yes, he did.

01:16:06.400 Well, Eve said, we can eat of any fruit

01:16:09.160 except for the tree of the knowledge of

01:16:10.120 good and evil or we'll surely die.

01:16:12.320 Oh, you won't surely die.

01:16:13.400 You'll become like the Elohim, knowing

01:16:15.040 good and evil.

01:16:15.640 That was true.

01:16:17.120 You will know good and evil, but he also

01:16:19.060 put a lie in there.

01:16:19.900 You won't die.

01:16:21.120 When Satan tempted Jesus, think about

01:16:22.640 this.

01:16:23.000 This guy was tempting Jesus who co-created

01:16:26.140 him.

01:16:27.000 How did he tempt Jesus?

01:16:28.700 He used Bible verses with a slight twist.

01:16:33.200 He says, cast yourself down because this

01:16:35.200 verse in Deuteronomy says, the angels, he

01:16:37.300 will give his angels power to come down

01:16:39.700 and bear you up, lest at any time you cast

01:16:42.200 your foot against the stone.

01:16:43.420 That is a Bible verse.

01:16:44.560 He quoted that verse verbatim correctly.

01:16:47.340 He quoted it correctly, but he took it out

01:16:48.940 of context and he was using it to tempt

01:16:52.000 Jesus.

01:16:52.420 He said, you know, turn your stones into

01:16:54.860 bread.

01:16:55.220 If you're the son of God, turn your stones

01:16:57.780 into bread.

01:16:58.220 Jesus could have done that.

01:16:59.460 But Jesus quoted scripture to him.

01:17:01.020 You know, man shall not live by bread

01:17:02.580 alone.

01:17:03.100 Satan says, okay, you want scripture?

01:17:04.260 I'll give you some more scripture.

01:17:05.640 So that's what he does.

01:17:06.880 He is very subtle.

01:17:08.580 And that's what's so tough for Christians.

01:17:11.260 I mean, if you're not a Christian, yeah, you

01:17:13.580 can be fooled by a lot of different

01:17:14.680 grandiose things.

01:17:15.500 But if you're a Christian, the worst

01:17:17.000 deception is someone quoting a Bible verse

01:17:19.600 and just twisting it just a little bit.

01:17:21.600 Just a little bit.

01:17:23.080 The best lie is sandwiched between two

01:17:24.800 truths.

01:17:25.720 Yeah.

01:17:26.120 Yeah.

01:17:26.680 I came across one recently.

01:17:28.420 I saw another pagan on Twitter, thousands

01:17:31.380 of likes on this, and they quote a

01:17:33.640 scripture from Matthew.

01:17:34.600 I forget what it was, where God, Jesus

01:17:36.840 is talking to the Jewish people who were

01:17:38.360 just about to stone him.

01:17:39.840 And he basically says that, like, you're

01:17:41.480 like, you're like gods.

01:17:43.660 But he's making, so he goes, oh, look,

01:17:45.520 see, Jesus said that we're gods, therefore

01:17:47.460 we're gods.

01:17:48.460 And I'm like, no, no, no.

01:17:49.060 Then he said that monotheism is, I know

01:17:51.340 what you're talking about.

01:17:51.940 And he goes, monotheism was the worst

01:17:53.700 thing to ever happen to Christianity.

01:17:54.940 Yeah, and I'm like, but no, Jesus is

01:17:56.660 actually condemning the Jewish people who

01:17:58.780 are about to stone him.

01:18:00.200 And he's using Psalm 82, which is like

01:18:02.100 a reference about God judging these

01:18:04.900 Elohim that they are gods, but they'll

01:18:07.020 be judged like men.

01:18:08.640 They'll be dying like men.

01:18:10.640 And it's like, that's what he's talking

01:18:11.660 about.

01:18:12.200 But if you want to just pick that one

01:18:13.900 part of the scripture and tell these

01:18:15.380 thousands of people that like and retweet

01:18:17.060 this shit.

01:18:18.020 Dude, that one felt especially nefarious.

01:18:20.620 It's all super nefarious.

01:18:21.740 And I was, I answered him back very

01:18:23.220 like, I said, no, this is actually what

01:18:24.780 he's saying.

01:18:25.160 They have 15 likes.

01:18:26.040 I was like, that's incredible.

01:18:27.100 Yeah, it's incredible.

01:18:27.760 I have 50,000 followers.

01:18:29.080 I get 15 likes.

01:18:29.880 This guy has 10,000 followers, thousands

01:18:32.220 of that.

01:18:32.640 But that's what people want to hear.

01:18:33.900 I guess that's what people want to hear.

01:18:35.880 Timothy, Paul says this to me right

01:18:37.760 to 2 Timothy.

01:18:38.740 He said, you know, in the end times,

01:18:40.440 people will heap upon themselves

01:18:41.620 teachers.

01:18:42.280 I'm not quoting exactly.

01:18:43.520 He's saying people are going to bring

01:18:44.920 teachers that will tickle their ears.

01:18:47.480 People will, they say people, not just

01:18:49.680 people, Christians.

01:18:50.400 He's talking about Christians, not

01:18:51.940 just, not secular people.

01:18:53.300 He says in the end times, Christians

01:18:54.840 will depart from this faith, giving

01:18:57.100 heed to doctrines of demons and

01:18:59.480 seducing spirits.

01:19:00.460 They will heap upon themselves or heap

01:19:02.860 to themselves teachers who will just

01:19:04.680 tell them what they want to hear,

01:19:05.740 tickle their ears.

01:19:06.920 Prosperity gospel.

01:19:07.900 Oh, Jesus wants you to be rich.

01:19:09.660 And if you have enough faith and give

01:19:10.820 me money, you will be rich.

01:19:12.860 People want to hear that.

01:19:14.140 People want to hear, oh, you can be

01:19:15.400 like, you can be like God.

01:19:16.880 Gee, where have we heard that before?

01:19:18.380 The same lies over and over again.

01:19:20.060 And that's why the whole alien thing,

01:19:21.600 whether no matter what Tim Albarino

01:19:22.880 might think, is so clearly demonic,

01:19:26.320 all of them, because what, what is

01:19:28.360 their message?

01:19:29.440 You can be like God.

01:19:30.920 Yeah.

01:19:31.260 Why would you mean to tell me that

01:19:32.740 there's biological life a million

01:19:34.460 light years away that has all this

01:19:36.120 technology to be able to travel

01:19:37.580 millions of light years, meaning

01:19:39.000 they're at least like a level three

01:19:40.260 society on a partnership scale.

01:19:41.620 And they're going to come here not to

01:19:44.640 conquer us or to help us, but just

01:19:47.060 to say, oh, the Bible's wrong and you

01:19:49.540 can become my gods.

01:19:51.060 Really?

01:19:51.920 You come millions of miles, millions of

01:19:53.720 light years to give us the same message

01:19:55.180 as the serpent in the Garden of Eden?

01:19:57.220 Okay.

01:19:58.160 Well, I mean, you know, Timothy Albarino,

01:19:59.620 I guess he has his ducks in a row

01:20:01.660 because he's proposing that like anal

01:20:04.940 rape is more demonic than eternal

01:20:08.260 deception.

01:20:08.660 And I think it's the other way

01:20:10.080 around.

01:20:10.400 I just think they're all, they're all

01:20:12.220 pretty demonic.

01:20:13.040 They're no good guys.

01:20:13.900 What's a little iterate between

01:20:14.780 friends?

01:20:15.380 You know, we can look, we can get

01:20:17.340 past that, right?

01:20:18.020 Like, what about these guys?

01:20:19.560 But that could be another

01:20:20.400 Hegelian dialectic.

01:20:21.640 You have your good aliens versus

01:20:22.640 your bad aliens.

01:20:23.840 Well, what's the synthesis?

01:20:25.080 Well, you know, let's have our

01:20:26.600 mediator, the Antichrist.

01:20:28.080 So, yeah, there might be some type

01:20:29.560 of engineered war between these

01:20:31.620 aliens, but they have the same

01:20:32.900 backing behind them.

01:20:33.880 They're all fallen entities, even

01:20:35.940 if you have some that are the

01:20:37.520 Grays versus the Nordics.

01:20:39.760 They're both from the same source.

01:20:41.840 Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

01:20:43.380 It's that left-hand path, right-hand

01:20:45.960 path.

01:20:46.380 But he loves that stuff.

01:20:47.360 This is the thing.

01:20:48.300 He loves like the, he's deep into

01:20:50.240 the Charlie Kirk.

01:20:50.920 He's deep into the Republican

01:20:52.160 Party and all this boomer stuff.

01:20:54.100 And I'm like, this is the problem,

01:20:56.220 man.

01:20:56.500 And it's like, people are following

01:20:58.080 you.

01:20:58.520 That's all he's doing.

01:20:59.380 He's stepping up to the line of an

01:21:00.800 event and he's going left path.

01:21:02.540 And then he steps up to the line of

01:21:03.920 another and he goes right path.

01:21:05.240 And he's just like, it's like, no,

01:21:06.420 it's never that.

01:21:07.620 You're directing traffic.

01:21:08.360 It's never that.

01:21:08.880 It's never, it's always this narrow

01:21:10.260 path through the middle.

01:21:11.400 Like it's not this other shit that

01:21:13.560 they want you to pick, this false

01:21:15.060 binary that they offer you up.

01:21:16.880 And it's just part of orchestrating

01:21:18.680 the theater of everything that we're

01:21:19.860 going to.

01:21:20.300 And it's strange because, you know,

01:21:22.600 a lot of this just came from us

01:21:25.220 kind of looking at the way he was

01:21:27.340 saying anybody who associates demons

01:21:29.060 with aliens is an idiot.

01:21:30.980 And it was in this mocking tone and it

01:21:32.880 wasn't offering nuance.

01:21:34.080 Well, it's not just that.

01:21:35.540 It's people that I've referred the

01:21:37.380 book to that have read it that come

01:21:39.760 back to me and they go, you know,

01:21:42.020 this is what I gathered from it.

01:21:43.440 I'm like, that's a problem if that's

01:21:44.800 what you gather from.

01:21:45.520 Because I don't know what Timothy

01:21:46.400 Alberino is meaning.

01:21:47.280 Well, what did they gather?

01:21:47.960 What are they saying they gathered

01:21:48.760 from it?

01:21:49.560 They gathered that basically what he's

01:21:51.040 saying is like, well, he said that

01:21:51.940 they're not all demonic and that

01:21:52.980 some of them are space homies.

01:21:54.360 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:55.140 And I was like, no, I don't think

01:21:55.860 that's the case.

01:21:56.660 But he was like, well, I read this in

01:21:57.720 this book here and this book is

01:21:58.780 well produced and it's been

01:22:00.120 manufactured like a thousand,

01:22:01.600 hundred thousand times.

01:22:02.400 And you're just an idiot.

01:22:04.080 And I'm like, I am an idiot, but

01:22:06.040 this is wrong.

01:22:08.140 Yeah, something is.

01:22:09.280 And I don't know if that's what he

01:22:10.320 meant to do, although it seems like

01:22:12.100 that's what he is meaning to do

01:22:13.540 more and more that we like interact

01:22:15.040 with them.

01:22:15.880 But I'm like, well, what you wrote

01:22:17.140 here, that's that's the fruit that

01:22:18.540 it bears.

01:22:18.980 So we have to address that.

01:22:20.660 That's a problem because I really

01:22:22.200 like this guy, even though he

01:22:23.720 dressed like Indiana Jones.

01:22:24.940 That's actually why.

01:22:29.120 We got it.

01:22:30.000 Well, that's his brand.

01:22:31.620 That is his brand.

01:22:32.400 It's a great brand.

01:22:33.460 Honestly, I wish I could.

01:22:34.480 I wish I had the discipline to

01:22:36.420 remain in Indiana Jones garb daily.

01:22:39.100 I don't.

01:22:40.000 Indiana Jones is cool, man.

01:22:41.200 I can't.

01:22:41.660 He's cool as shit.

01:22:42.820 He's just a fictional character.

01:22:44.420 All right.

01:22:44.940 All right.

01:22:45.140 That's it.

01:22:46.860 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

01:22:48.820 Yeah, I don't know.

01:22:49.700 It's it's a weird time because,

01:22:51.360 you know, a lot of this this

01:22:53.180 conversation we're having is like

01:22:54.720 this thousand foot overview of the

01:22:56.100 year that we've been in.

01:22:57.300 And it feels like the way that we're

01:22:58.920 going to end this year is, well,

01:23:01.740 what's the big event on the way out?

01:23:03.260 You get age of disclosure.

01:23:04.400 You get Luis Elizondo.

01:23:05.880 You get this, you know, definitive

01:23:08.140 step.

01:23:09.160 And as if there haven't been, you

01:23:10.780 know, a bunch of sort of

01:23:12.700 disclosure adjacent documentaries

01:23:15.000 that have popped their heads up in

01:23:16.300 the past five to seven years.

01:23:18.500 You know, we have these events come

01:23:19.900 to pass.

01:23:20.500 The Pentagon says this thing.

01:23:22.380 We found off world craft.

01:23:23.980 You know, like doing this podcast

01:23:25.360 just feels like being in a like a

01:23:27.160 large room and somebody like

01:23:28.960 lighting tiny fires.

01:23:30.600 And you just walk over and you're

01:23:32.080 like, stomp that one out.

01:23:33.200 And you're like, yeah, why'd they

01:23:34.340 do that?

01:23:34.960 And then you go over there and

01:23:37.060 you're like, they're doing this.

01:23:38.440 And then you stomp that one.

01:23:39.340 I'm like, is this my job?

01:23:40.380 Well, Spielberg, this is actually

01:23:41.760 Nancy just said it in the chat.

01:23:43.340 Spielberg is coming out with a

01:23:44.360 movie called Disclosure Day.

01:23:46.020 So it's like all of it is it

01:23:47.640 feels like it's mounting.

01:23:48.900 And I think that's one of the

01:23:49.760 things that is inescapable.

01:23:52.300 As people who make content

01:23:54.380 surrounding, you know, the

01:23:55.780 pursuit of the truth is it always

01:23:57.060 feels like something's mounting.

01:23:58.100 It always feels like something's

01:23:59.360 right on the horizon.

01:24:00.660 But this disclosure thing, you

01:24:03.300 know, and like I said, we're

01:24:04.960 watching this documentary, True

01:24:06.300 Legends documentary film series,

01:24:09.040 Steve Quayle, Tom Horn,

01:24:10.540 Timothy Albarino.

01:24:11.200 And I thought they nailed it,

01:24:12.400 dude.

01:24:12.760 They're talking about the

01:24:13.880 Vatican and what a role it's

01:24:16.060 playing in this disclosure and

01:24:18.160 how this disclosure is going to

01:24:19.620 be.

01:24:20.400 I think either Tom Horn or Steve

01:24:22.160 Quayle called it the great

01:24:23.920 deception, the great deception,

01:24:26.340 right?

01:24:26.540 Capital T H E and and D E C.

01:24:31.000 Stop it.

01:24:33.020 So, I mean, you know, you're and

01:24:35.060 then Albarino says that he thinks

01:24:37.280 that this is what the Antichrist

01:24:39.560 will come from.

01:24:40.680 Yeah.

01:24:41.120 And and now what's really strange

01:24:43.300 is like we're not getting all of

01:24:45.140 that anymore.

01:24:45.740 We're just getting an Albarino.

01:24:47.540 And then, you know, what you asked

01:24:48.500 earlier, kind of like what what the

01:24:50.620 Albarino thing was about.

01:24:51.680 It's really just that simple.

01:24:53.100 It's like you said that once upon a

01:24:54.520 time.

01:24:55.220 Now you're doing reviews of the age

01:24:57.400 of disclosure documentary and you're

01:24:58.720 like, this is fantastic.

01:25:00.300 This is going to catch the normie up

01:25:01.560 to speed on like what's happening

01:25:03.140 with the and it's like catch him up

01:25:04.720 to speed to what?

01:25:05.580 It's it's a it's a gigantic lie.

01:25:07.200 You've called it the great deception

01:25:08.920 in your documentary.

01:25:10.100 Where are sound the horns,

01:25:12.640 Timothy Albarino?

01:25:13.780 And I guess it's kind of just guys

01:25:15.820 like us that are that are there's

01:25:17.520 other people out there that are

01:25:18.480 sounding the horns of like, I don't

01:25:20.620 know, it feels like we're really

01:25:22.140 we're really gearing up for that.

01:25:23.760 I think it's heartbreaking, too,

01:25:24.840 because like I like we like to make

01:25:26.660 fun of him because how he dresses.

01:25:27.740 But I mean, you called for that.

01:25:29.300 That's true.

01:25:29.880 But I really do.

01:25:31.020 You asked for it.

01:25:31.600 You see what you're wearing?

01:25:33.600 You don't get to.

01:25:37.200 You don't get to swing a whip around

01:25:39.260 since Albarino and wear your hat.

01:25:42.860 Well, what's interesting about it

01:25:44.620 is that we're doing it.

01:25:45.280 But it's like, yeah, this is like

01:25:46.160 our brother that like, yeah,

01:25:47.820 that like like what are you doing?

01:25:49.740 We we lost you.

01:25:50.980 We love you.

01:25:51.860 Yeah.

01:25:52.200 Come back.

01:25:53.160 Come back.

01:25:53.700 We'll figure out the money.

01:25:54.820 Come back to the Lord.

01:25:55.800 We'll have to pay you.

01:25:56.880 Is that it?

01:25:57.040 Is the Christianity alone is not

01:25:58.480 profitable enough?

01:25:59.320 I don't think so.

01:26:00.260 Yeah.

01:26:00.560 You got to have a mega church.

01:26:01.800 You got to have a mega church.

01:26:03.120 Albarino, if you want a mega church,

01:26:04.460 we'll make it happen.

01:26:05.440 But what's interesting to me is

01:26:07.360 we talked about, you know,

01:26:09.680 the Kirk thing and maybe we can

01:26:11.480 even get into a little bit of the

01:26:12.800 I don't really know.

01:26:13.700 I've not been following Erica Kirk.

01:26:15.100 I know she looks insane

01:26:16.340 and I know she's driving around

01:26:18.040 a hearse to shooting fireworks

01:26:19.520 out the back and stone cold

01:26:21.140 stunnering people, you know,

01:26:22.820 to pyro techniques and all this

01:26:24.060 stuff, whatever's happening.

01:26:25.260 Everybody grieves in their own way.

01:26:26.840 But with with everybody

01:26:29.300 coming to Christianity in droves

01:26:32.200 and then this setup of this

01:26:34.520 disclosure, I'm like, damn, dude,

01:26:36.440 is this the setup?

01:26:37.460 Like, is everybody going to show up

01:26:38.980 to Christianity?

01:26:40.720 And we're like, so what's this about?

01:26:42.360 I hear it's good.

01:26:43.180 And then all of a sudden

01:26:43.800 disclosure is going to pop off

01:26:45.020 and they're like, oh, yeah, it is good.

01:26:46.040 He's a Pleiadian.

01:26:46.760 Well, it's as our year in review.

01:26:51.020 Our I'm looking at our podcast here,

01:26:54.480 Ed, and we were just wrapping up

01:26:56.260 our revelation series in January.

01:26:59.380 Dang.

01:26:59.960 That's how I mean, it feels

01:27:01.260 like 10 years ago.

01:27:02.520 But yeah, that's where we were

01:27:04.640 at with this.

01:27:05.960 That's interesting.

01:27:06.740 And it's like now we're really

01:27:08.660 running with this, just running

01:27:11.600 with this.

01:27:12.020 I mean, so many people in the past

01:27:13.440 have probably studied this and

01:27:14.600 ran with this and it wasn't

01:27:16.660 like wasn't the time.

01:27:17.460 But now it just feels like, man,

01:27:18.680 what the hell, yo?

01:27:19.780 Yeah, this is how the year started

01:27:21.760 and this is how it's ending.

01:27:23.220 Almost like a culmination of it.

01:27:25.160 So I want to talk about real

01:27:26.840 quick because one of the things

01:27:27.780 that I had on my list kind of

01:27:28.740 dovetails from what Raven was

01:27:30.100 just talking about, which is

01:27:30.820 everyone's coming to Christianity.

01:27:32.600 And there's been a big move

01:27:34.300 that on the surface, it's like,

01:27:35.780 great, a lot of young people,

01:27:37.180 especially young men, are

01:27:39.060 gravitating towards Christianity.

01:27:41.760 But what I found, and I've got

01:27:43.440 several people comment on this,

01:27:45.940 and I did a Q&A on it, that they

01:27:48.680 seem to be coming to the Catholic

01:27:51.180 Church or the Orthodox Church.

01:27:53.160 Yeah.

01:27:54.200 As opposed to the Evangelical

01:27:56.440 Protestant Church, and what's the

01:27:57.820 reason behind that?

01:27:58.840 Because someone asked me about that

01:27:59.760 because I think they have relatives

01:28:00.720 who are doing it.

01:28:01.840 And if you look at, so take a step

01:28:04.580 back and ask to ask why.

01:28:06.780 And I think why comes down to what's

01:28:09.120 been going on in our culture for the

01:28:10.220 last 60 years or more since the 1960s.

01:28:13.660 In the 1960s, you had the rise of what

01:28:16.500 we call moral relativism.

01:28:18.480 And it began, frankly, with a response

01:28:21.260 to something that was going on in the

01:28:22.280 churches.

01:28:22.540 In the 60s, you had the God is dead

01:28:24.480 movement.

01:28:25.540 And that happened with people were

01:28:26.540 starting to quote Nietzsche and people

01:28:28.640 like that who were basically saying,

01:28:30.940 who were challenging Christianity really

01:28:32.260 tough for the first time and saying,

01:28:33.960 you know, if God is good, wise, or evil

01:28:35.040 in the world, all the classic questions.

01:28:36.700 And we know who is God, how can you

01:28:38.100 define God?

01:28:39.240 And the church couldn't define God.

01:28:41.700 You know, we've been lazy, the Laodicean

01:28:43.100 church.

01:28:43.860 And so the church decided to go without a

01:28:47.540 definitive definition of who God is.

01:28:50.260 Instead of saying, God is this, then they

01:28:54.200 say, you know, God is whatever you feel

01:28:55.760 when you're worshiping him.

01:28:56.760 That's where the Jesus movement came in

01:28:58.180 in the 70s.

01:28:59.360 The Jesus movement is all about feelings.

01:29:02.180 And so if you can't, so the reason they

01:29:04.640 did that is because if we can't define who

01:29:06.740 God is, then you can't say who God isn't.

01:29:09.260 So it was kind of their way around dealing

01:29:11.220 with those tough questions.

01:29:12.680 And so that's why the church for the last

01:29:15.180 60 years has been all about feelings and

01:29:16.860 all about nothing wrong with worship music,

01:29:18.640 but it's been all about getting caught up in

01:29:19.980 feeling and I feel the Holy Spirit and

01:29:21.600 Jesus is whoever I feel he is.

01:29:23.620 That's why he's this loving, kind person

01:29:25.480 who I just, who's just so wonderful to

01:29:27.080 me.

01:29:27.280 And I just, and so all these songs about

01:29:28.700 Jesus in church almost sounds like, sound

01:29:30.340 like love songs you hear on an R&B station.

01:29:32.580 They make Jesus like your girlfriend.

01:29:35.480 So, and so part and parcel of that was

01:29:37.680 moral relativism, because if there's no

01:29:39.260 definitive God, if you can't define him,

01:29:41.080 then there's no definitive good or evil.

01:29:43.320 Meaning that good and evil.

01:29:44.300 Fascinating, Ed, because right now it almost

01:29:46.520 seems like the war on definitions, which is

01:29:49.180 what we're dealing with right now, we can't

01:29:50.840 even have a conversation because we can't

01:29:52.260 agree on the definition of a word, started

01:29:54.180 with the definition of God.

01:29:55.980 Yeah, it did.

01:29:56.480 Yep.

01:29:57.420 So if there's no definitive God, there's no

01:29:59.060 definitive of good and evil.

01:29:59.700 That means that good is whatever is good for

01:30:01.480 me.

01:30:02.680 But the problem, and that feels good.

01:30:04.040 It sounds great.

01:30:04.580 It's what people want to hear.

01:30:05.800 Whatever I feel is good is good.

01:30:07.260 But the problem is that if you can't define

01:30:09.260 good, then you can't accuse anyone of being

01:30:10.720 evil.

01:30:11.000 Because, I mean, look at the great archetype

01:30:13.620 of evil of our time, Hitler.

01:30:14.960 Well, Hitler is bad.

01:30:16.320 How can you be bad?

01:30:17.420 If there's no definitive good and evil, if

01:30:19.340 it's morally relative, Hitler thought he was

01:30:20.960 doing good.

01:30:21.540 He thought the third right was great for the

01:30:23.520 earth.

01:30:23.820 He thought this was the best thing to do.

01:30:25.560 He didn't think he was evil.

01:30:27.260 Hitler thought he was doing good.

01:30:28.780 And if everything is relative, then you

01:30:30.380 can't call Hitler evil.

01:30:32.680 And so it's obviously logically bankrupt

01:30:35.260 because every one of us calls something good

01:30:39.000 and we call something else evil.

01:30:40.520 So we have, we define something as good or

01:30:42.660 evil, but we make it subjective.

01:30:44.380 So after 60 years of this, I think the

01:30:47.880 younger generation, I guess Generation Z or

01:30:49.700 whatever their current name is, there's, and

01:30:52.780 these are the guys coming to the church, they

01:30:54.580 are being, they realize this is bankrupt.

01:30:57.040 We need structure.

01:30:58.540 And especially with men, now men, we've been

01:31:01.700 told human men in America that we're toxic

01:31:04.440 just by having a penis, that we're just born

01:31:07.740 toxic and that, you know, and men, we're

01:31:10.500 denigrated in society.

01:31:11.580 You know, women can do no wrong.

01:31:13.020 You have, you watch movies.

01:31:13.840 You got 109 pound woman beating the crap out

01:31:16.140 of 250 pound dudes, which is ridiculous.

01:31:18.400 It's my favorite genre.

01:31:19.820 Yeah.

01:31:20.140 The girl boss, all this, you know, women are

01:31:22.360 smarter than us or better.

01:31:23.340 You know, you watch a sitcom.

01:31:24.980 The, the, the wife is just competent and

01:31:26.940 wonderful, the dude, the husband is a big

01:31:29.140 dumb oaf, all that stuff is just, and so

01:31:31.420 we're tired of it.

01:31:33.140 The generation, especially the younger

01:31:34.480 generation, they're sick of this and they

01:31:36.080 feel disassociated.

01:31:37.100 You know, you have the whole incel movement,

01:31:39.000 all these sorts of things.

01:31:40.100 And, you know, women are rejecting men.

01:31:42.160 What's the statistic?

01:31:43.480 20% of men are, are banging 80% of the

01:31:46.500 women because of all the, because of the

01:31:48.480 dating apps.

01:31:49.000 So men are feeling disassociated.

01:31:50.780 They don't know, they have no morality.

01:31:52.860 So they're flocking to churches.

01:31:54.800 Why are they choosing the Orthodox and

01:31:56.160 Catholic churches?

01:31:57.160 Because unfortunately the non-Catholic

01:31:59.640 churches are the quote unquote Protestant

01:32:01.080 churches are still caught up in that whole

01:32:02.700 Jesus movement.

01:32:03.580 There's no structure.

01:32:04.940 Jesus is just, Jesus is just this big

01:32:06.700 loving wimp.

01:32:07.780 Let's be honest.

01:32:08.320 That's how Jesus is portrayed.

01:32:10.380 This tall, skinny, handsome white guy who

01:32:13.040 would never harm a fly, which is not Jesus.

01:32:15.760 It's actually, that's, that depiction of

01:32:18.080 him is based on Cesare Borgia, who was the

01:32:20.080 son of Pope Alexander.

01:32:22.220 That's not what Jesus looked like.

01:32:23.400 He wasn't, he wasn't white.

01:32:24.740 He didn't wear a goatee.

01:32:25.520 He was a, he was a Middle Eastern Jew who was a

01:32:28.200 construction worker.

01:32:29.260 His, his dad, he was in his father's business.

01:32:31.780 His legal father, Joseph was a carpenter.

01:32:34.060 He was a builder.

01:32:35.060 Jesus was hauling around planks of wood and stone.

01:32:37.660 He, so he was, yeah.

01:32:38.340 Anyway, the point is the depiction of Jesus is that this

01:32:41.480 wimpy guy who doesn't do any, who has no, no backbone.

01:32:45.100 They don't want that.

01:32:46.040 They want structure.

01:32:47.280 So the thing is, and this is something I learned from John

01:32:49.680 Lenhart is that human beings, we need limitations and we

01:32:52.800 need freedom.

01:32:53.900 It's called a conjunctive.

01:32:55.720 We, we want freedom within the Bible always gives us freedom

01:32:58.980 with a limitation.

01:33:00.760 What did God say to Adam and Eve?

01:33:01.760 You can eat of any of the trees, any trees in the garden,

01:33:04.300 freedom, except one limitation.

01:33:06.500 We need both.

01:33:07.780 If you go too far to one end or the other, there's going to

01:33:10.080 be a problem.

01:33:11.080 The moral relativism goes all the way to the freedom side of

01:33:14.220 the conjunctive and it's been disastrous.

01:33:16.300 So what are, what do these young men want now?

01:33:18.660 They want structure, but they've gone too far to the other

01:33:21.260 side because Catholicism and Orthodoxy are all about

01:33:24.560 structure.

01:33:25.460 Here's who you, here's how you worship.

01:33:27.060 Here's where you worship.

01:33:27.900 Here's when you worship.

01:33:28.800 Here are the prayers you say.

01:33:29.700 You don't talk to Jesus any way you want.

01:33:31.820 You have to pray specific prayers.

01:33:33.160 You have to rub the rosary beads.

01:33:34.300 You have to take the Eucharist.

01:33:35.400 All these things provide structure, which these young men

01:33:37.920 really want.

01:33:38.600 They want structure and they want morality.

01:33:40.580 So they're gravitating to a church that says, we know

01:33:43.080 absolute right or wrong, and we're going to give you the

01:33:45.080 exact structure that will help you do it.

01:33:47.260 And the Orthodox church does it the same way, not to the same

01:33:49.420 degree as Catholicism, but they have their priests and you

01:33:52.360 can't know the Bible on your own.

01:33:53.560 You are not, you can't read the Bible.

01:33:55.060 You need a priest, somebody in a robe to tell you what

01:33:57.700 this really means.

01:33:58.360 It's extremely structured.

01:34:00.980 And you look, again, like him or not, and I don't, Nick Fuentes

01:34:04.700 is speaking for a lot of these disassociated men.

01:34:07.720 He is Catholic.

01:34:09.200 You have, you know, Candace Owens is a chief, went hyper-Catholic

01:34:13.020 about a year and a half ago.

01:34:14.780 You know, talk about Tucker Carlson.

01:34:17.020 You name all these Michael Knowles, who I think is a reasonable guy,

01:34:19.820 but he's also, you know, very Catholic.

01:34:21.220 And you have the Orthodox.

01:34:23.560 You have Jay Dyer, very smart guy, great researcher, very Orthodox.

01:34:27.280 He went from an evangelical church to Orthodoxy because he wants to rely on the church fathers.

01:34:32.540 That's what Orthodox, the difference between Catholicism and Orthodoxy is the Orthodox is all

01:34:36.740 about, you know, following the footsteps of the church fathers who are men.

01:34:40.600 That's a problem.

01:34:41.400 They're fallible.

01:34:42.060 And some of them have some pretty messed up doctrines.

01:34:44.820 Like Augustine, you know, he was very anti-Semitic.

01:34:48.300 Origen, he denied the existence of the Nephilim.

01:34:51.100 So the Orthodox, they don't go for that.

01:34:52.740 So the point is that they're going too far to the limitation side, too much structure.

01:34:58.040 And I think they're going to eventually get tired of that.

01:35:01.660 And they're going to be looking for guidance because they went all the way to the freedom

01:35:06.160 side with moral relativism.

01:35:07.600 Now they're swinging all the way back to the structure side, too many limitations because

01:35:10.920 the Catholic church and Orthodoxy is full of rules.

01:35:14.080 We can't be too much freedom, too much limitation.

01:35:18.680 We have to have that balance of both.

01:35:20.600 So I think that's why they're...

01:35:22.740 That figure eight that you were talking about, when you said that, I'm like, that's a great

01:35:26.400 depiction of like, I mean, an animal, if you could send me the scripture that that's

01:35:31.320 from, but an animal cut in half in this figure eight that it symbolizes like obviously eternity,

01:35:38.220 it symbolizes this connection in the middle, but it also symbolizes like you're going too

01:35:42.140 far this way, too far that way.

01:35:43.400 But like where you kind of have to be is in that intersection.

01:35:46.240 You know what I'm saying?

01:35:47.280 So you can go all the way to the right here to this masculinity that people.

01:35:50.600 Desire, and I get why they desire it, because they've been on the other side of this femininity

01:35:55.660 that's turned completely toxic.

01:35:57.120 But yeah, neither of these things are the way that it's supposed to be.

01:36:00.760 It's that balance in the center, which is like, you know, a lot of the things that

01:36:05.940 I said, Jason, about Buddhism like this, this balance is like, yeah, these are necessary

01:36:10.580 aspects of Christianity.

01:36:11.980 Christianity, but then it just, it gets a little tricky with that.

01:36:14.380 But I don't know if we can even get to that.

01:36:16.120 But here we go.

01:36:16.720 Yeah, I'll wrap it up with this, because my prediction, probably not necessarily for next

01:36:19.480 year, but I think in the years to come, I think that there's going to be a backlash

01:36:22.660 against the orthodoxy and the Catholicism stuff.

01:36:25.820 And then these guys are going to be completely lost.

01:36:28.480 And I think there's an opportunity for revival when they get tired of both the extremes and

01:36:35.560 want to know real truth.

01:36:36.480 Now, will that happen before things get crazy?

01:36:39.440 I don't know, because we were talking about this before, Raven, where you were saying that

01:36:43.680 everyone's going to Christianity with the whole TPUSA thing.

01:36:48.300 And if my Hegelian dialectic theory is true, and Catholic Catholicism is exactly where they

01:36:54.120 want them to go.

01:36:55.680 It's interesting.

01:36:56.320 Because you had this idea that Candace was saying that before Charlie Kirk died, he was

01:37:00.220 like praying the rosary and visiting Catholic churches.

01:37:02.700 Interesting.

01:37:03.060 I don't know if that's true or not.

01:37:03.940 I didn't follow Charlie Kirk that carefully.

01:37:06.480 But if she has an agenda, which I think she does, I think a lot of people have agendas,

01:37:10.780 and Jimmy Dore, who I think is funny, but that dude is like jockeying her hard.

01:37:15.520 I don't know if you listen to his show.

01:37:17.120 He is like her biggest super fan.

01:37:21.240 But my point, and he isn't even religious at all.

01:37:24.720 My point is, if she's trying to paint Charlie Kirk as becoming Catholic right before he died,

01:37:30.760 well, now he's their sacrificial lamb as well.

01:37:32.980 So that's just another thing that it's like people take sides.

01:37:37.780 People, they're jumping on, I'm Candace's side.

01:37:40.420 I'm on the Daily Wire side.

01:37:42.940 I'm like, I'm just kind of interested that this is still, I'm glad that she's doing what

01:37:46.840 she's doing in a way.

01:37:47.740 Because, you know, like most conspiracies, you can just kill a president and then that'll

01:37:52.140 be put to bed for a while until some kind of movement comes along years later.

01:37:56.020 But it's like, we're moving so fast in it that like, where she's not going to let this

01:38:01.440 go.

01:38:01.860 And I don't know what her intentions are.

01:38:03.460 But I'm kind of glad that she's not letting that because something happened that we don't

01:38:07.260 know.

01:38:07.920 And I'm like, I'd like to know, I think we should get to the bottom of because it's

01:38:10.900 important to our society and the structure of what's holding us all together, that we

01:38:15.200 kind of know what happened with this guy.

01:38:17.920 And everybody is kind of, not kind of, everybody's satisfied with blaming a patsy, believing

01:38:26.840 the FBI and putting it to bed.

01:38:28.120 So again, this, but it's like one of these things again, it drive you freaking crazy because

01:38:31.100 yeah, she has some weird motives.

01:38:34.380 I don't know what they are.

01:38:35.940 On the other side of that, it's like the government.

01:38:38.220 Like, all right.

01:38:39.060 And then again, now I'm here and I'm kind of like, I just kind of want to hear, like

01:38:43.360 I'm, I want to hear.

01:38:44.240 I mean, I'm interested to see.

01:38:45.220 Yeah.

01:38:45.440 Like, yeah, I'm fascinated by it.

01:38:46.680 I mean, it's very, very interesting stuff.

01:38:48.220 I mean, she's completely abandoned like the, the French, um, uh, Macron, Macron's and, you

01:38:54.080 know, and being a dude, the, the, the, the Mrs. Macron Brigitte, and she's totally all

01:38:58.480 in on Charlie Kirk, which I get it.

01:38:59.860 I mean, on, on the surface, you know, apparently they were friends.

01:39:02.620 I wasn't really that.

01:39:03.760 I didn't follow Charlie Kirk that carefully before this happened.

01:39:05.840 I, he was just a guy I would see him on, on doing debates on YouTube.

01:39:08.360 And I, I love seeing dumb people getting smacked down by good debaters.

01:39:11.420 He's a good debater.

01:39:12.220 That's, that's really what I knew about him finding out a lot about this.

01:39:15.200 And, and I agree that the official story makes no sense at all.

01:39:18.520 Um, so I'm curious to see where this is going to land, but I'm also trying to always take

01:39:24.400 a step back and look at the big picture and saying, what's the agenda behind everyone on

01:39:28.260 all sides?

01:39:29.020 And, you know, what, what's really happening?

01:39:31.940 Well, if there is an agenda, and I don't know that this is the agenda, but it does seem to

01:39:35.740 me that the, uh, Nick Fuentes thing, the big moment that happened recently, where he was

01:39:41.080 saying that he doesn't think that people should be allowed to interpret their own Bibles or

01:39:45.040 read their own Bibles, that you should have church elders or, you know, whoever be able

01:39:49.680 to interpret these things for you, because otherwise it results in things like, and I think the

01:39:53.500 example he used was, you know, lesbian pastors or what have you, like these things emerge

01:40:00.720 out of people putting their own understanding on scripture.

01:40:04.200 Maybe there's an argument to be made about that, but I think that's a super dangerous

01:40:07.720 thing to tell people.

01:40:08.740 And one of the, I was talking to, uh, it's almost like, it's almost like, yeah, there's

01:40:12.320 a bunch of gay churches with lesbians.

01:40:14.580 And they're talking about, you know, Mary's femininity and her, her liberalism.

01:40:18.700 And it's like, this is the obvious stupid, but the, I was listening to that recently where

01:40:22.880 some chick is like, Oh, Mary is actually like this side character, but I think she's actually

01:40:27.300 the main focus and starts going on.

01:40:28.820 Someone was talking about like, Oh, the idea of her virginity just meant that she had like

01:40:32.240 sovereignty.

01:40:32.660 And I'm like, Oh, these people are like, so lost in the weeds that we should stone them

01:40:36.940 to death.

01:40:37.360 This is, I mean, no, you, you can safely discard them, but they're used as this straw man by

01:40:42.900 people who to say, don't read your Bible.

01:40:45.180 Right.

01:40:45.720 And now that's a compelling argument.

01:40:47.360 When you, yeah.

01:40:48.800 So, but one of the pieces of scripture that, that Matt brought up, and I'm going to use

01:40:52.060 the new living translation because I can't read, uh, King James.

01:40:55.420 I'm not doing this.

01:40:56.100 I'm retarded.

01:40:56.980 Uh, but it's John, uh, one John two 27 says, but you have received the Holy spirit and he

01:41:02.460 lives within you.

01:41:03.180 So you don't need anyone to teach you what is true for the spirit.

01:41:06.440 It's called the anointing in, in, uh, in, in the other versions, but, uh, for the spirit

01:41:10.920 teaches you and what he teaches you is true and is not a lie.

01:41:15.260 Uh, so just as he has taught you remain in fellowship with Christ.

01:41:19.040 And it's like this idea, like, so I, I understand the Sola scripture kind of characters where

01:41:24.400 it's like, you don't, I mean, right there, it's telling you, you know, you've received

01:41:28.420 this anointing.

01:41:29.880 This anointing is the Holy spirit.

01:41:31.680 The Holy spirit is this supernatural aspect that reveals things to you, that teaches

01:41:36.320 you things that are true.

01:41:37.560 And you only need, you know, other people to teach you if you don't have that supernatural

01:41:44.240 view.

01:41:44.720 It does seem like a lot of, you know, orthodoxy and, and Catholicism.

01:41:49.960 Sorry.

01:41:50.400 Is, is much more about, um, is, is much more about, uh, like, I don't know, legalistic

01:41:58.980 text-based information-based, very rigid, no inclusion of the spirit.

01:42:05.340 And, and, uh, and, and I think that that is where you get these things that emerge from

01:42:10.600 it, uh, which is the debate orthodox, like, you know, Jay Dyer does that very well.

01:42:15.140 These are what the letters to the churches are right there.

01:42:16.720 It's like constantly pointing out, it's like, you guys are a little bit, uh, too rambunctious.

01:42:21.540 You guys are a little bit too this.

01:42:22.980 You, uh, you guys are just dead.

01:42:24.580 Yeah.

01:42:25.040 So it's like, yeah, we have to remove the spirit from it.

01:42:27.680 Then what is it?

01:42:28.300 Well, it's a, it's a, it's a text from which to draw arguments from.

01:42:31.020 Man, that, that, uh, infinity symbol really starts to make a lot more sense.

01:42:37.340 No, I want to be clear here.

01:42:38.700 The scripture is, is in, um, in, in Genesis, but it doesn't specifically say a figure eight.

01:42:43.880 Um, that comes from, from tradition.

01:42:45.580 It was a Jewish tradition, uh, not just Jewish.

01:42:48.180 It was actually an ancient tradition that you would walk in that figure eight.

01:42:51.680 The Bible doesn't say it was a figure eight.

01:42:52.760 It just says that they, they walked between that.

01:42:55.720 Well, God walks, um, uh, between the animals, but it's, but it is the, it's historic that

01:43:01.660 they will walk in a, in a figure eight around, around the pieces.

01:43:05.180 So you won't find those exact words of figure eight, but it's just implied because again,

01:43:09.580 it was written to ancient people.

01:43:10.640 They would have known what it meant.

01:43:11.620 So, so I don't, I don't want you to think that, um, it's going to specifically say they

01:43:15.580 walk in this, in this particular pattern.

01:43:18.340 Well, it's, it's also interesting.

01:43:19.760 I mean, the meta logo is also that pattern as well.

01:43:22.760 Well, yeah.

01:43:23.720 I would be, I would be fascinated to hear Fuentes deal with that piece of scripture that, uh,

01:43:30.040 that we just read here, because it's, it seems pretty clear.

01:43:33.120 I mean, even, even within the context, uh, you know, it's, it seems pretty clear.

01:43:36.960 It's talking about the anointing, receiving the Holy spirit, the Holy spirit lives within

01:43:41.780 you.

01:43:42.540 So you don't need another man to teach you what is true.

01:43:45.120 Right.

01:43:45.680 And that's saying there's not a place for these, these, you know, spiritual guides, you

01:43:50.380 know, but, but it's like, as far as a need, it is, it's you and the word of God and the

01:43:56.960 Holy spirit revealing things to you.

01:43:59.040 So here's the thing you I've been taught, you've been taught, we've all been taught

01:44:03.220 by people who are greater than us, but that doesn't mean you suspend your critical thinking

01:44:07.780 aspects.

01:44:08.600 That's the problem.

01:44:09.280 I have a very good friend.

01:44:10.740 Well, maybe we're not as good as he's having arguments about Catholicism.

01:44:13.320 He's Catholic, very smart guy, advanced degree.

01:44:16.400 Um, and he, and we, he's a truther.

01:44:18.600 He, we, he will debate anything except what the Catholic hierarchy says about the Bible.

01:44:23.800 And I asked him like, dude, why is it that in every other subject in your life, you will

01:44:28.240 openly debate it.

01:44:29.360 But in this case, you check your brain at the door and do, and say whatever, and believe

01:44:33.900 whatever these people and rogues who have a history of not being the best people on earth

01:44:37.740 say, he says, well, because this is there, this is God's church.

01:44:42.300 God anointed him.

01:44:43.260 Who am I to say, blah, blah, blah.

01:44:45.000 Like, okay, here's the issue.

01:44:46.940 So we can, the, the, the verse that I would, uh, quote on this, the verse you quoted grave

01:44:52.140 was, was, was perfect.

01:44:53.660 But I would also add something that Paul said about the Bereans, the people of Berea, one

01:44:58.300 of the churches versus the church at Thessalonica.

01:45:00.540 And he said, the Bereans were more noble than those at Thessalonica because they received

01:45:04.520 everything with an open heart.

01:45:05.760 But then they searched the scriptures daily to see if they were true.

01:45:08.420 That is, so that's to say, you can listen to anyone, then go to the scripture and say,

01:45:13.440 is that, does this conflict with or contradict the scripture?

01:45:16.700 And what, oh, I don't know.

01:45:17.940 Can you read?

01:45:19.360 If you have a, at least a fifth grade reading level, you can know what this means.

01:45:23.660 If you, if you, like what you were talking about top with, with, with the, uh, with

01:45:27.360 Mary, her virginity being female empowerment.

01:45:31.200 Well, you know what the word virgin means.

01:45:32.940 It means you have not had sex with another human being.

01:45:35.280 So if someone says it's female sovereignty, okay, let me read the Bible.

01:45:39.600 Oh, it says virgin means she's never known sexually a man.

01:45:42.960 Huh?

01:45:43.640 Those two things contradict.

01:45:45.280 Which one am I going to believe?

01:45:46.240 The Bible.

01:45:46.840 The Bible says being a virgin means you've never had sex.

01:45:49.680 So you can reject the idea that it means, oh, she was a sovereign female.

01:45:53.620 It doesn't mean that.

01:45:54.840 So you can listen to everyone, but then let the Bible be the arbiter of what is true and

01:46:00.900 what isn't.

01:46:01.480 I don't understand the Bible.

01:46:02.540 Can you read?

01:46:03.140 Do you have a concordance?

01:46:06.520 If you, if you, and if you're not sure you have, we have no excuse in our age.

01:46:10.160 You can go to blue letter Bible.

01:46:11.720 You can go to Bible gateway and blue letter Bible is has in your free interlinear Bible.

01:46:16.440 You can see what every word means in its original language.

01:46:19.100 You can study it.

01:46:20.000 You have, no one has any excuse.

01:46:21.380 I don't, you don't need a priest.

01:46:22.380 You don't need, you don't need me or anyone else.

01:46:24.200 I'd love for you to listen and cause I want to help.

01:46:27.000 But if you don't go, you can study the Bible interlinearly.

01:46:31.000 You can see what every word means in its context, in its original language, in its verb tense,

01:46:38.420 and all that stuff.

01:46:39.680 You have, you have no excuse for not studying and for believing the nonsense.

01:46:44.260 And I think God's going to hold every, especially this age, he's going to hold us extremely

01:46:47.600 accountable.

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01:46:52.600 issued against them.

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01:46:54.200 And none of those were actionable threats and, and, and God bless blue letter Bible.

01:46:59.200 You can use a different tool.

01:47:00.040 I just, I just named those two.

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01:47:03.400 No, it is.

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01:47:05.380 It, it cuts out so much.

01:47:06.820 I used it like three times already.

01:47:08.320 Yeah.

01:47:08.520 Yeah.

01:47:09.120 It is a fantastic tool.

01:47:10.700 We just went through a weird thing with them, but we love them.

01:47:13.040 And I don't think they knew that it was, I think it was a one-sided thing.

01:47:15.020 It's funny, our, the latest episode that we did with Matt was about law.

01:47:18.500 It was about the law and it's mimicking a lot of what you're saying.

01:47:21.800 This episode is actually going to drop tonight.

01:47:23.720 It's called, uh, uh, drinking, eating, drinking in the Sabbath.

01:47:27.380 And, uh, it's basically God saying like, Hey, what's everything is lawful.

01:47:31.040 Everything is lawful, but people want the rules and, and I'm guilty of it too.

01:47:36.500 I want the rules.

01:47:37.440 So I, I know what I can and can't do because it's an abdication of my responsibility in a way.

01:47:42.700 It's like, Hey, just tell me, just tell me.

01:47:44.640 So I don't have to like, we're, we're, we're faced with so many decisions per day.

01:47:49.040 I guess it's a cop-out where I'm kind of like, I don't want to be responsible for just tell me,

01:47:54.700 like, give me a church father.

01:47:56.580 I get it.

01:47:57.660 Give me a guy.

01:47:58.840 He's got a beard.

01:48:00.020 He's dressed like a wizard.

01:48:01.420 Oh yeah.

01:48:02.020 If he's dressed like a wizard, hell yeah.

01:48:03.360 He's got a big old cross around his neck.

01:48:05.780 The bigger the cross, the bigger the, yeah.

01:48:07.820 And he'll, he'll guide me.

01:48:08.920 He'll get, I mean, in the Orthodox tradition, he'll give me a different name and he'll guide me.

01:48:12.280 And I, I think that there's some, something to that, but then there is also this idea of like,

01:48:16.900 yeah, everything in the new Testament, it's like, everything is lawful to God.

01:48:19.960 When he breaks that whole idea of like what the, what you can eat as a Jew or when you can eat it.

01:48:25.080 It's the idea of Jesus doing stuff on the Sabbath and constantly just disrespecting the Pharisees.

01:48:30.480 That's why they wanted to kill him.

01:48:31.480 Yeah.

01:48:31.680 I, that's what that was about, but we're constantly asking for the rules.

01:48:35.940 And I feel like we might, cause we're stupid.

01:48:38.440 We need them.

01:48:39.420 Yeah.

01:48:39.540 Yeah.

01:48:39.600 Because we need both.

01:48:40.380 We, we crave freedom and we, and we crave rules.

01:48:43.780 Clean your room, bucko.

01:48:45.500 So you, you have, but sometimes we want all the freedom and no rules.

01:48:48.900 Then we realize that doesn't work.

01:48:49.800 Like I said, we go, we go the other direction.

01:48:51.740 Yeah.

01:48:52.100 So yes, we do need elders.

01:48:53.520 I mean, you know, Paul will comment with the commentary for half the new Testament.

01:48:58.460 So, but his writings are there.

01:49:00.620 They're inspired by the Holy spirit, but he was there.

01:49:02.980 He was teaching people.

01:49:03.840 So I don't say reject teachers.

01:49:04.920 That would be kind of a self-defeating statement.

01:49:07.520 But what I am saying is that you, the Holy spirit, if you're a Christian, he lives inside of you and he can tell you if something is wrong.

01:49:13.400 Like I said, I've been confronted by people who've said, you know, Ed, you were wrong on this.

01:49:17.320 And I was like, you know what?

01:49:18.540 The Holy spirit convicted me on it.

01:49:19.900 And I had to change because I realized that what I was teaching was more tradition than Bible.

01:49:23.940 And so, so we're all open to it.

01:49:26.160 So we should all be questioning everything and everyone and leaning on the word of God.

01:49:31.040 And if you are a Christian, you have the Holy spirit inside of you.

01:49:34.700 Yeah.

01:49:35.460 If you were open to it, but if you shut him out, he's not going to shout over you.

01:49:38.400 If you say, I'm not going to, I'm not going to listen to you.

01:49:39.900 I'm going to listen to a father, whoever.

01:49:41.900 So be it.

01:49:42.820 One of our, one of our, to the year in review thing.

01:49:45.640 One of the episodes that we did where I came away from it.

01:49:47.860 I'll just be honest, I was disagreeing with you a little bit, um, was the Halloween episode.

01:49:52.380 Okay.

01:49:52.720 Where you, you said you can, or you can't.

01:49:55.320 And you're like, it's up to you.

01:49:56.120 And I'm like, I don't know.

01:49:57.040 That just seems like a, this is, if it's a stumbling block for you.

01:50:00.340 Right.

01:50:00.640 But yeah, this is an, and the more, like the more examples that I read about it, I'm like,

01:50:05.520 ah, yeah, he was right.

01:50:06.640 But I wanted, I want a rule, Ed.

01:50:09.280 Yeah.

01:50:09.540 I want you to give me a rule.

01:50:10.960 You may not ever celebrate Halloween.

01:50:13.480 Yeah.

01:50:14.060 Drop the staff.

01:50:15.260 But Ed was like, that's the, you're like, that's not what it says.

01:50:17.320 And when I came away from the episode, I was kind of like, man, fuck Ed.

01:50:22.860 I was just, I was a little bit like, like, I don't know.

01:50:26.140 I don't know about that.

01:50:27.180 Decisive answer.

01:50:27.460 I wanted, I wanted to know where the, where the fishing line ended and where the crossing

01:50:31.520 line began.

01:50:31.720 Can my kid have a labubu or not, Ed?

01:50:33.620 What are we doing here?

01:50:35.080 And the answer is, it's like, well, you know, for you, for what's good for you is

01:50:39.640 not good for the other guy.

01:50:40.920 How, like, what is your faith?

01:50:42.180 Like, is that a stumbling block to somebody else?

01:50:44.220 There's a lot.

01:50:44.860 It's so, it's so murky.

01:50:47.420 I think, I think it is true though.

01:50:48.860 The stumbling block is, is like, that's one of these things that, you know, every time

01:50:52.300 I use, I learn something, I use it over and over and over again.

01:50:54.960 And I keep saying it every episode.

01:50:56.840 Stumbling block since that episode has been one of those that I haven't let go of.

01:51:01.300 And it's, I was actually going to say only moments ago, it's fascinating how religion

01:51:05.760 is a tremendous stumbling block for so many people considering that Christianity is, is

01:51:10.720 a religion, you know, in, in layman's terms.

01:51:14.000 But it can, it can get you all caught up in it.

01:51:17.680 You know, I was, I saw recently a picture of like Nimrod, some, some, you know, ancient

01:51:23.940 visage of him carrying a pine tree and who the hell knows if it's real and a, and a,

01:51:30.720 what looked like a caribou, a reindeer.

01:51:32.900 Yeah.

01:51:33.020 I've seen that.

01:51:33.560 Yes.

01:51:33.820 Yes.

01:51:34.040 Yeah.

01:51:34.300 Yeah.

01:51:34.420 And I'm like, I don't know if that's true or not.

01:51:36.520 I don't know what I'm looking at there.

01:51:38.140 You know, it's like, you know, these days, but now you have three homages to Nimrod.

01:51:44.920 Four.

01:51:45.240 Four homages to Nimrod.

01:51:46.820 You tried to invite me to Titi, Titi Peepee's hat, whatever her name is.

01:51:51.080 And she had seven homages to Nimrod.

01:51:54.040 14.

01:51:54.400 14 homages to Nimrod.

01:51:56.620 And I, and I just, I find it fascinating because, you know, you're not with that, those, you

01:52:01.060 don't, you don't stumble over those.

01:52:02.400 You go, I love the Lord, but look at my Christmas trees.

01:52:04.680 Yeah.

01:52:04.960 I mean, that's why I had half of one.

01:52:08.540 Yeah.

01:52:08.680 Well, Christmas is, I mean, Christ's mass, it's, it's, it's basically Saturnalia, which

01:52:12.960 is the, the worship of the, of the sun, God, soul, and Victus was Nimrod.

01:52:17.040 I mean, it really, it literally is the Christian.

01:52:19.360 That's when it's, that's why, when I say, I know I get Catholics really pissed off in

01:52:23.020 me when I say that Catholicism is an amalgamation of Christianity and paganism, but it is.

01:52:27.380 I mean, they, Jesus was not born in December.

01:52:29.660 He would have froze to death in the manger.

01:52:31.660 That shepherds would not have had sheep out in the field during that time of year.

01:52:34.740 It was born in late summer.

01:52:36.100 So why is it December 25th?

01:52:37.500 Because that is the celebration of the sun, God, soul, and Victus.

01:52:40.880 And they just slapped the name of, of Christmas on it because, you know, it, Jesus is the son

01:52:45.980 of God.

01:52:46.660 The sun, God is also considered the son of God.

01:52:49.100 He, you know, and there's a similarity where, you know, the, the sun is in its lowest part

01:52:53.500 of the sky for three days from December 21st to 23rd.

01:52:57.040 Then it starts to rise again on December 25th.

01:53:00.400 So that's the birth of the son of God.

01:53:02.960 So, Hey, well, that's close enough.

01:53:04.540 We'll call it Jesus' birthday.

01:53:06.160 Go ahead, top, bring it up on stage.

01:53:07.860 Let's look at it.

01:53:09.160 Nimrod.

01:53:10.060 Who the hell knows what this is?

01:53:11.360 Like a Sumerian.

01:53:12.500 We'll bring it up, but I mean, we'll bring it up.

01:53:15.520 Damn, man.

01:53:16.240 Come on.

01:53:16.560 He's got the Christmas tree and a reindeer.

01:53:19.620 And I don't know who the hell knows.

01:53:21.020 I didn't think Nimrod had wings.

01:53:22.900 I mean, that's a, that David, David, when he ate the bread at Nod, the stuff that he

01:53:26.780 was not supposed to eat, the disciples said that they could, he said, you could eat, you

01:53:31.840 can eat food.

01:53:32.500 That's been sacrificed to demons.

01:53:34.160 It's just like, you know, no, I don't, I don't think there's anything.

01:53:37.280 I think it's all about your intention.

01:53:38.840 If you're, if you're setting out to, you know, engage in, in gratitude and, and the love

01:53:44.340 of Jesus Christ on the, on that day, then, you know, that, that is what it is.

01:53:47.740 That's what I did.

01:53:48.640 Because, you know, obviously there's a spiritual intent or else our worship wouldn't mean

01:53:52.820 anything to these lowercase G gods.

01:53:54.440 You know, like the way you've described it is like, it's like a drug for them.

01:53:57.760 Right.

01:53:58.200 So we're exuding this spiritual energy.

01:54:00.380 We, we determine what that spiritual energy is.

01:54:03.600 If we're, if we're out there worshiping, uh, God and, and, and exuding gratitude for

01:54:09.860 not only our family, but for this, you know, this miracle of Jesus Christ.

01:54:13.520 Like, yeah, that's, that's a very particular, this just happens to be the days that we get

01:54:17.180 off for it, but I just don't know if like, we should have like a half a tree or if we

01:54:21.380 should have like seven trees.

01:54:22.920 Like, where's the line, Ed, can you just draw some, get the fishing string and draw it out

01:54:28.920 for us so we know what, what, what we're supposed to do here.

01:54:31.800 I will say the freedom we have in Christ can be scary.

01:54:35.100 Yeah.

01:54:36.100 Ooh, that is, that's a powerful statement.

01:54:38.040 It actually can be.

01:54:38.060 It is a responsibility.

01:54:39.500 As you grow, I think when you are a young Christian, you should probably abstain from

01:54:45.260 it.

01:54:45.400 I think I said this, maybe I didn't say it on your show, but I think I did it on the

01:54:48.060 Q and A.

01:54:48.680 I said, if you are coming out of paganism, especially if you're a new Christian and you're coming out

01:54:52.940 of paganism, stay the hell away from Halloween as you grow in it, you, then you can, you know,

01:54:59.500 you'll bring things back in and, and cause it won't be harmful to you.

01:55:02.980 But if it's, if it is something that you're not ready for, by all means, don't do it.

01:55:07.500 Stay as far away from it as you possibly can because, but you're expected to grow in Christ.

01:55:12.640 You have rules.

01:55:13.740 You know, we're, we're, we're all raising kids here.

01:55:15.980 We don't have my, my oldest son's 11 right now.

01:55:18.560 He doesn't have the same rules I had for him when he was five.

01:55:21.360 I trust him with more things.

01:55:22.600 He makes his own breakfast.

01:55:23.760 Now I wouldn't let him do that when he was three, he'd burn down the house, but I expect

01:55:28.040 him to grow and have more freedom and more responsibility.

01:55:30.700 So I will let him do things that are dangerous.

01:55:32.880 Like he, he made his own eggs this morning.

01:55:34.920 I didn't supervise him.

01:55:35.740 He went in, he got, you know, he turned the fire on, he cracked the egg.

01:55:39.020 He would not have done that when he was younger because it would have been a disaster.

01:55:41.840 But as he grows, he has more responsibility and he can handle the dangerous stuff.

01:55:46.500 That's what we're supposed to do as we grow in Christ.

01:55:48.820 Jesus doesn't want to be in God.

01:55:51.220 They don't want us to be constantly under, you know, this harsh rule.

01:55:55.980 Paul says it himself.

01:55:57.100 He calls the law something that it's like a caretaker.

01:56:00.520 He's, I think this isn't either.

01:56:01.560 I think it's in Galatians where he says, you know, the law is like a tutor when you're

01:56:06.760 growing up, but you don't stay under a tutor forever.

01:56:09.880 You're supposed to grow up and become a man or a woman and be off on your own.

01:56:13.520 I say this to my son all the time.

01:56:14.620 He complains about all the rules we have.

01:56:16.640 I say, I'm telling you these rules so that you know how to behave so that when you're

01:56:19.180 out of the house, 18, you're not going to screw up because you already know how to do

01:56:24.960 these rules.

01:56:25.400 But that doesn't mean you do exactly the way I'm doing things.

01:56:28.200 You're your own person.

01:56:29.600 But you know that you have the guardrails and you can handle situations.

01:56:33.500 And even when you go off and your life descends into chaos, you at least go like, what can

01:56:40.040 I go back to that wasn't chaos?

01:56:41.880 And yeah, it's that reference.

01:56:43.000 You can go back to that.

01:56:43.840 It's the rock.

01:56:43.940 It's the foundation.

01:56:44.740 And it doesn't have to be exactly the way that you set it up in your house.

01:56:47.800 God is a rock.

01:56:48.220 God is a rock.

01:56:49.300 So worship that rock.

01:56:50.460 Go worship some stones.

01:56:52.520 Go worship some stones.

01:56:54.140 I don't know what kind of time we have, Ed, you know, I know you probably got some stuff

01:56:58.560 going on.

01:56:58.920 Do we have time to talk a little bit more?

01:57:00.760 Yeah, we do.

01:57:03.420 I'm actually off this week.

01:57:04.460 So I'm not doing the nine to five this week.

01:57:06.640 So we have a little bit more time.

01:57:07.620 And I did promise my son that I got to take him to an amusement park tomorrow.

01:57:11.220 So this is daddy's day.

01:57:13.620 So I got more time.

01:57:14.180 There's a couple of things we can talk.

01:57:15.680 I want to end talking about the spiritual warfare course.

01:57:17.880 Yeah, please go wherever you want with it because I feel like we've already derailed you.

01:57:22.420 Yeah, it's OK.

01:57:23.160 I'm just looking at my list.

01:57:23.960 There's only a couple of things I haven't touched on.

01:57:25.280 One, I'll make it quick with the year in review.

01:57:27.560 One of the big things was the rapture that was supposed to happen in September.

01:57:32.980 And I don't have to spend a lot of time on this because obviously it didn't unless we

01:57:36.140 all missed it.

01:57:37.300 I'm missing a tremendous amount of family members.

01:57:39.520 And I hope to see them again one day.

01:57:41.320 But there were all these reasons that people had with the Feast of Trumpets and this being

01:57:46.840 2025 being the beginning of the last jubilee, which is the last 50 years before the next

01:57:53.420 era, which is supposed to be the millennial reign of Christ.

01:57:58.580 And so people had all these reasons to point out or to believe that the rapture would happen

01:58:05.680 on the Feast of Trumpets, which would be anywhere between the 21st to 24th of September.

01:58:12.700 And of course, it didn't happen.

01:58:14.740 And we had our show before that.

01:58:17.320 And the warning that I had was, look, maybe it will, maybe it won't.

01:58:20.460 I don't know.

01:58:21.600 But if it doesn't happen, don't feel that God let you down because that's really the danger

01:58:26.240 and hyping people up and making them think that, you know, hear all these charts and

01:58:30.440 graphs and Bible verses and signs in the heavens, people believe it.

01:58:34.780 And then when it doesn't happen, they get disappointed in God.

01:58:37.300 And like, God didn't let you down.

01:58:38.820 The people who let you down were these date setting dorks who have all these channels who

01:58:43.620 are trying to get views and clicks to make more money.

01:58:46.980 And then what happened after it is exactly what I said was going to happen.

01:58:50.980 I said that none of these people, oh, maybe a few did, but most of them did not come back

01:58:55.360 and say, you know what?

01:58:55.940 We were wrong.

01:58:56.580 We shouldn't have set the dates.

01:58:57.640 We did the best we could, but we were wrong.

01:59:00.120 Nope.

01:59:00.460 They just kicked the can down the road.

01:59:02.080 There was, you know, some of them were saying, I staked my life.

01:59:04.100 There was no way 2025 will end without Jesus returning.

01:59:07.180 Well, we got three days.

01:59:08.740 I don't think it's, I don't think it's going to happen.

01:59:11.380 But instead of admitting they were wrong, they just said, well, maybe, maybe I missed a decimal

01:59:15.180 place.

01:59:15.420 I didn't carry the two on, on my, my chart and, or my mathematics.

01:59:20.000 And so it was being kicked down the road or, or they said, well, I didn't really set a date.

01:59:25.020 I just said it may happen.

01:59:26.680 No, I can see on your YouTube channel.

01:59:29.660 It says Jesus returning September 23rd.

01:59:32.640 That's a date.

01:59:33.420 I don't care if you put a question mark by it.

01:59:34.960 You're still setting a date because you're trying to get people to click on your channel

01:59:38.660 so you can make some money.

01:59:40.240 And that's a problem.

01:59:41.520 And that's why you should not set dates.

01:59:44.680 You don't know.

01:59:45.200 And there was some guy in Africa.

01:59:47.720 I forget his name now, but he was actually just mentioned in the comments here.

01:59:52.160 I was like, this is an honorary mention.

01:59:54.320 Yeah.

01:59:54.740 This dude.

01:59:55.520 I mean, shout out to this guy.

01:59:56.600 Wasn't his name?

01:59:57.800 Where?

01:59:58.060 I don't know.

01:59:58.600 I'm trying to find him right now.

01:59:59.940 He had people building arcs.

02:00:01.940 He claimed he, he claimed he talked to Jesus directly and Jesus told him.

02:00:06.040 And I'm like, okay, dude, you better be sure.

02:00:08.560 Because if you're not doing that, that's, that's borderline blasphemy.

02:00:12.240 You can say that he's a, he's from Ghana, uh, preparing the same way that Noah did.

02:00:18.980 Um, maybe I could share this.

02:00:20.460 It's, it's a, it's a video.

02:00:22.420 I mean, we don't have to get into it too much, but there you go.

02:00:25.720 He's making sure the gaps are, I mean, honestly, sound construction.

02:00:28.940 They look great.

02:00:29.800 I mean, that's really remarkable.

02:00:33.320 Is he wearing the sackcloth as a, as an option?

02:00:36.840 Maybe it's breathable.

02:00:37.800 And when you're working, it's, uh, I don't know.

02:00:40.560 I mean, I think it's, I think, I think it's like, you know, good for the heat.

02:00:44.680 Probably.

02:00:45.180 It's probably hot out there.

02:00:46.200 I think he, he likely did, you know, there's no shortage of, of entities masquerading as

02:00:51.020 Christ.

02:00:51.760 Um, you know, that, that does happen.

02:00:53.740 I've heard enough stories where I go, I don't doubt that you experienced something.

02:00:56.960 I just think you were deceived.

02:00:58.300 Uh, and so some, you know, asshole ancient entity is laughing hard, dude, which you kind

02:01:04.940 of got to give them that one.

02:01:06.380 Yeah.

02:01:06.780 Yeah, well, that's a little funny.

02:01:09.020 So again, the moral of the story is God didn't, didn't disappoint you.

02:01:14.020 Just these people did.

02:01:15.880 So you should be very, very discerning when someone is setting dates.

02:01:19.460 We, we, we don't know when it's going to happen.

02:01:22.100 It could happen anytime.

02:01:23.220 It may happen on a feast of trumpets.

02:01:24.360 There's reason to believe that it will happen on a feast of trumpets.

02:01:27.560 Doesn't mean it's happening on this one.

02:01:28.940 And just don't put your faith in all of these charts and graphs and, you know, equations

02:01:35.280 that people come up with because they're always wrong.

02:01:37.580 Yeah.

02:01:38.340 Yep.

02:01:39.100 So, I mean, you know, it happens over and over again.

02:01:41.000 I don't know how many, I, what I had to do was, um, be wrong a bunch of times before I

02:01:46.880 finally stopped paying attention to that stuff.

02:01:48.560 So for some people, hopefully you go through it and you go through it the right way, where

02:01:53.080 instead of throwing everything out, you realize like, no, this is just some aspect that man

02:01:57.840 has created.

02:01:58.660 It's the same way when you go through a whole religious system and you, you, you know, you're

02:02:02.320 burned by it, that you don't turn your back on God.

02:02:04.760 You go, this is just some aspect that man created and, you know, screwed up.

02:02:09.420 Also to harken back to the beginning of the episode, it's like, how do you deal with people

02:02:12.400 that are like really good within the space, but maybe you, you, you think that they've gotten

02:02:17.820 something wrong.

02:02:18.880 And it's unfortunate because when you're on, you know, even Ed, when you're on a show like

02:02:23.380 Merkel, if you say something that somebody comes in, it's like, that's wrong.

02:02:26.880 And then they tear you down.

02:02:29.160 How else am I supposed to correct you on a public forum like this now?

02:02:32.060 Now, like, cause we're both elevated to such a level that like, well, when I correct you,

02:02:36.780 you know, you're going to fall and that's not going to be great for you.

02:02:40.680 So it's like, well, what do we do?

02:02:41.960 What do we do?

02:02:42.320 It also gets weird too, because doing that is a form of currency, whether or not you'd like

02:02:46.080 to admit it, whether or not that's your goal, if you can effectively tear down another creator

02:02:50.580 with any success, then you get elevated.

02:02:53.380 And it's like, maybe that's not the point, but for some people, it is the point.

02:02:57.060 And regardless, it is the outcome, which is gross and weird and, you know, hard to navigate.

02:03:02.400 Yeah.

02:03:02.820 I don't know anyone's intentions.

02:03:04.120 Maybe talk about the little season thing.

02:03:05.560 And I, obviously I'm in complete disagreement with it, but the people who promoted, you know,

02:03:08.940 JT and I get the other guy stops.

02:03:10.760 I don't know their intention.

02:03:11.800 I don't know them personally, so I'm not going to say bad things about them.

02:03:15.700 I will say, I don't agree with their, their theory for these reasons, but I'm not going

02:03:19.920 to say, well, he's not a believer.

02:03:21.620 He's trying to deceive you.

02:03:22.800 I don't know.

02:03:23.280 I, I'm guessing they sincerely believe this.

02:03:26.100 I just disagree with it and hear my reasons for it.

02:03:28.640 Yeah.

02:03:28.820 We talked about Gary Wayne before, same thing.

02:03:30.780 I disagree with him about a couple of things, but they're also fundamental things.

02:03:34.220 If Gary Wayne came out or anyone came out and said that, well, Jesus didn't die for

02:03:37.700 your sins.

02:03:38.260 That's a problem.

02:03:39.020 But if he says, I believe that he created human beings before Adam and Eve, okay, I

02:03:43.780 disagree with it.

02:03:44.280 I think there's some serious problems with it, but I don't think he's not a Christian

02:03:48.020 because he believes that, because he believes that.

02:03:51.080 So there has, even, and I don't believe that you're not a Christian if you believe in the

02:03:54.280 little season.

02:03:55.020 I think you're wrong.

02:03:56.180 And I think it can, you know, adversely affect what you think about Jehovah and how he handles

02:04:00.980 things that he would put you under the unfettered reign of Satan for 300 years.

02:04:06.780 That's a problem, but it doesn't make you not a Christian.

02:04:10.220 So that's where you have, and there are plenty of people I disagree with.

02:04:13.960 And, you know, there was, there was, you know, some people, if you watch, like, if you listen

02:04:17.440 to, you know, Sam Tripoli's show or any of these shows, you have people on who I think

02:04:21.240 are sincere and they're trying to make sense of the world.

02:04:24.200 And they have these different ideas of Jesus.

02:04:26.020 So he had one guy on there who said, well, Jesus is a homunculus because, or a golem,

02:04:30.660 basically, because in certain Jewish or Kabbalistic traditions, they would, you would form this

02:04:37.580 flesh bot and put it inside of a woman and it would be birthed.

02:04:40.780 And what Jesus was basically that.

02:04:42.020 So he's a homunculus.

02:04:43.180 I'm like, okay, that's stupid.

02:04:45.320 But you're trying to understand things.

02:04:47.860 You're trying to make sense of the world.

02:04:48.920 So I'm not going to condemn you personally.

02:04:50.520 I'm just going to say that, you know, do some more, you know, get into things a little

02:04:54.000 bit more carefully and understand things better, but I'm not going to tear down someone, you

02:04:59.480 know, just because, just to try to give myself views and clicks, because I'm going to have

02:05:02.480 to answer for that.

02:05:03.980 You know, I tell my son all the time about, we talk about making good choices and he says,

02:05:07.960 why do I have to make good choices?

02:05:08.960 I said, well, because it's not every choice has a consequence.

02:05:11.400 And before you make the choice, ask yourself, are you, are you willing to live with what the

02:05:15.800 consequences might be?

02:05:16.860 And what are the consequences of me tearing down another Christian if I don't have enough

02:05:22.160 information to make that judgment?

02:05:25.940 I'm going to have to answer to that, about that before God.

02:05:30.040 So you can tear down what somebody says, but who they are, that's, that's where you're

02:05:33.820 crossing the line, I think.

02:05:35.300 Yeah.

02:05:35.460 It's, it's a, it's kind of a hard place to be because like I said earlier, with all these

02:05:39.800 people coming to Christianity and I'm certainly no authority on the topic, but I do recognize

02:05:43.940 that it is an important time to be having difficult conversations in order to be able to get to

02:05:50.500 the truth.

02:05:50.900 And they probably should be had in a public fashion so that people can see this and it'll

02:05:55.760 help guide their opinions.

02:05:56.760 But I think mostly what we're dealing with in these spaces is, you know, people just believe

02:06:02.800 it.

02:06:02.900 I don't think we, you know, we have a tendency to point at somebody and go fed, fed, you know,

02:06:07.560 or something like that.

02:06:08.520 I think far and few in between, I think it's really mostly people that are just incorrect

02:06:13.860 and, but, you know, are earnest and are, you know, trying to understand the truth.

02:06:19.180 But I do think every once in a while you do run into some weird shit and, and, you know,

02:06:24.040 it's hard to, to kind of parse those people apart because I don't think that you being

02:06:28.860 wrong deserves anywhere near the same amount of judgment as you being some sort of an operative

02:06:35.300 who's going out and misleading people and, and jeopardizing the souls of, of individuals.

02:06:40.100 Because at the end of the day, what this is, is it's a war.

02:06:44.120 It's a spiritual war.

02:06:44.980 We're not struggling against a flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities and spiritual

02:06:48.680 realms.

02:06:49.180 And what is the thing that's at stake?

02:06:52.000 Souls.

02:06:52.960 So, so that's the thing that we're tug of warring against.

02:06:55.880 And if, if you're somebody who's in the space, who's actually subversive and, and is,

02:07:01.340 I mean, that's what you're subverting is the eternal salvation of, of your brothers,

02:07:07.900 you know?

02:07:08.360 So, but it's, man, good luck figuring out who those people are.

02:07:13.460 But, but also the good news is, let's say you are wrong.

02:07:16.100 Let's say you call someone a fed and there, it turns out they're not a fed.

02:07:18.420 If you say someone, you're not a Christian and you are, you know what you can, and they're

02:07:21.780 not, what if you say you're not a Christian, but it turns out they actually are, you can

02:07:25.500 confess and repent and apologize.

02:07:27.520 Yeah.

02:07:28.120 You can do that.

02:07:28.680 We have that ability.

02:07:30.000 We can be wrong.

02:07:30.540 I mean, there's, you know, there's some people who I, you know, I think Tucker Carlson's

02:07:33.820 a fed.

02:07:35.080 Yeah.

02:07:35.620 But that's my opinion.

02:07:36.420 I could be completely wrong.

02:07:37.680 And if I am wrong, I say, you know what?

02:07:38.960 He's actually a sincere guy.

02:07:40.000 My, my bad.

02:07:40.960 What did I do?

02:07:41.420 I confess, I repented, I'm forgiven.

02:07:43.800 So we have, we still have that option.

02:07:45.220 So even if we are wrong, we, we're never going to be perfect.

02:07:48.800 We can, we can confess and repent.

02:07:50.800 Yeah.

02:07:51.480 Yeah.

02:07:52.060 Well, thank God our God is the, the God of forgiveness.

02:07:54.660 Right.

02:07:55.020 Because, uh, you know, that could get, that could get sticky, but, you know, it makes sense because

02:08:00.020 there's so much that's hidden from us.

02:08:01.600 There's so much that, and right now we are, we did an episode recently on this idea of,

02:08:06.600 of golden apples, just to give you a, that sort of 10,000 foot overview, this idea that,

02:08:12.180 uh, within Greek mythology, I think it was, uh, uh, person of whatever, it doesn't matter.

02:08:17.080 Persephone.

02:08:17.400 We'd throw these, Persephone.

02:08:18.600 Thank you.

02:08:19.160 Uh, would throw these golden apples and they would cause chaos.

02:08:22.080 And, and a lot of the time the chaos was just the infatuation with the thing itself.

02:08:26.360 And the more focus that you gave to this apple, the larger it would become to the, to the point

02:08:31.780 where it would block you from going any further.

02:08:33.740 And I realized that that is a great analogy for, for so many of these psychological operations

02:08:38.720 we're being subjected to specifically in the conspiracy community.

02:08:42.940 There are so many things that are, are, uh, beckoning for our attention.

02:08:47.860 And if you spend too much time with them, they become so immense that they block your

02:08:53.360 path.

02:08:53.800 You can no longer get to the goal.

02:08:55.820 What is the goal?

02:08:56.540 The great commission.

02:08:57.520 We talked about it earlier.

02:08:58.280 It's spreading the gospel.

02:08:59.640 It's making disciples.

02:09:00.900 If that's the goal, then any number of things, whether it's three, I Atlas, or it's, you know,

02:09:07.420 it's, uh, Charlie Kirk's, uh, as you know, assassination, any of these things can be become

02:09:12.380 a sticking point can become a golden apple that could become so huge that it demands all

02:09:18.700 of your time and focus.

02:09:19.680 But what is your time and focus supposed to be dedicated to it's, you know, these great

02:09:24.640 works of, of, of creating disciples and bringing people, uh, to, to Christ and, and spreading

02:09:29.800 the gospel.

02:09:30.300 So, uh, you know, I I'm realizing like this place that I spent so long in this truth or

02:09:36.780 conspiracy community that like, I am grateful for it because it got me to Jesus, um, is now

02:09:43.160 I think fully weaponized against us, us being critical thinkers, seekers, people that are

02:09:50.560 pursuing the truth.

02:09:51.500 This thing is, is reached such a critical mass as more conspiracy theorists than there ever

02:09:56.740 have been before.

02:09:57.460 We talk about it endlessly about 2020, having woken up so many people when, and, and then

02:10:02.040 what they did is they just injected so much bullshit into this.

02:10:06.800 And it makes me realize like this whole Gnosticism, this ascended master crap, like all of these

02:10:12.180 things that you come to, uh, the Demi urge and, and, you know, the God of the old Testament

02:10:16.440 not being the, all these things, all these things, they are the conclusions that basically

02:10:23.000 a truther might come to, if you spend too much time obsessing over the, the false breadcrumb

02:10:30.480 trails.

02:10:31.000 At some point you do have to just throw your hands up and go, there are things that I'm

02:10:35.580 not going to understand.

02:10:36.760 And I've been blessed to, to have as many things revealed to me as, as have been, but faith

02:10:42.540 is a huge component of this because like we talked about with, with Job, we weren't here

02:10:47.900 when God laid the foundations of the earth.

02:10:49.320 We, we have a short amount of time.

02:10:51.020 It's finite.

02:10:51.700 We're only here for a blip of the radar.

02:10:53.280 We're not going to understand it at all.

02:10:55.120 You know, you're blessed to understand anything at all.

02:10:57.540 One of the things that I've been saying lately is kind of the old lady who just stays in her

02:11:02.840 Bible.

02:11:03.560 Uh, we've been calling it grandma maxing the old lady who stays in her Bible, who, who

02:11:08.060 believes in Jesus, uh, whose, whose eyes are fixed on God.

02:11:12.580 Uh, she doesn't need all the information that we have.

02:11:15.780 She's actually better for it.

02:11:17.720 So if some gigantic alien disclosure thing, and we've been sleuthing through it and looking

02:11:22.140 for all the clues and we're trying to scream it and she looks at it and goes, Nope, demonic.

02:11:27.540 I love Jesus Christ.

02:11:29.100 All this other crap is noise.

02:11:31.000 I'm going to continue following Christ.

02:11:32.500 She's good.

02:11:33.560 She's good.

02:11:34.140 She doesn't even need all the information.

02:11:36.100 She doesn't need to have sleuth for 20 years and, and connected all the dots and, and,

02:11:40.860 you know, had the, the red wire with the thumbtacks on the map and, and is manic and pulling her

02:11:46.320 hair out.

02:11:46.640 She didn't need any of it.

02:11:48.100 She just had faith in the Lord and that's all she needed to get through it.

02:11:51.120 Like I'm coming to a place where I understand that now.

02:11:53.260 Ed, on a quick side note, David's, David's rant kind of reminded me of something.

02:11:57.680 Um, or not, I guess reminded me, but brought a thought to my head.

02:12:00.920 A lot of times lately with the show and what, what we're doing, I go, I didn't ask for this.

02:12:08.300 And, uh, like, as a matter of fact, I don't necessarily even want it.

02:12:12.300 Um, do you have anything on faith by reason or, uh, any of, I don't know, any sources,

02:12:20.940 resources, maybe we can cover it on a, another episode, another time about like when you get

02:12:25.320 a blessing, how you receive it, because that this is not, this idea is that's been floating

02:12:31.040 around in my head is not new and even like more current, like more recent circumstances.

02:12:36.780 I'm like, you, we get a thing that is a blessing and I go, this looks like a curse to me.

02:12:42.300 And it's like, how do I receive this thing?

02:12:44.220 Because I don't know what to do with these things.

02:12:47.660 I know that they're like big, but I just like, I kind of want to give it back.

02:12:51.980 And it's like, no, no, you don't do that.

02:12:54.160 That's an insult.

02:12:55.720 So I'm like, all right, well, there's biblical precedent for this.

02:12:57.960 And I need to, I need to figure, I would love to do like an episode on that, or at least

02:13:02.940 be pointed towards a resource of that, because all the stuff he's talking about is just that

02:13:07.240 we're talking about all this crazy stuff.

02:13:09.160 And then we're kind of talking to like a lot of people and then it's, it gets weird.

02:13:13.880 It gets, and I think most creators, maybe like truck missile, you know, they're writing

02:13:18.320 books for their own, uh, to, to spread their information.

02:13:22.460 But the consequences of doing these things is you're garnering, you're garnering an audience

02:13:27.720 of people.

02:13:28.240 And now you are almost, uh, the shepherd, but you're an asshole.

02:13:33.100 You know, and yeah, we, we all are.

02:13:37.780 Yeah.

02:13:38.380 Um, yeah, I think, I think that is worth another show.

02:13:41.380 Cause I think what you're saying is like, you have this, there's a responsibility that

02:13:44.680 you didn't ask for.

02:13:45.920 He came to do a, you guys started doing, you know, just comedy and then, you know, then

02:13:50.180 you added some spiritual aspects to it.

02:13:51.600 Now it's evolved to where you are now.

02:13:53.100 And now you have people relying on you and call and saying, you're my, one of my spiritual

02:13:57.660 teachers.

02:13:58.520 I know that because I get that a lot and it is scary.

02:14:03.260 I have some people who have asked me questions about, you know, morality and things like that.

02:14:08.240 I'm not going to get you through.

02:14:08.980 I'm not going to out them, but they were asking me about seriously moral things.

02:14:12.200 And because it's an, and they said, we asked you this ad, because we know that you're up

02:14:15.640 here.

02:14:15.820 I'm like, do not put me on a pedestal.

02:14:18.100 Oh no, I, I'm as screwed up as anybody else.

02:14:21.520 Well, maybe not now, maybe I'm less screwed up than a lot of people, but I still have

02:14:24.620 my own screw ups.

02:14:25.460 I still, I fall in many ways and there's still many things that need, I need to be better

02:14:30.180 about.

02:14:30.680 So it's not about me.

02:14:32.220 You have to shift it back towards God because it's not me because it's easy.

02:14:37.340 It will be really, really easy to start saying, yes, I'm, I'm so great because all these people

02:14:41.760 are giving me praise and I get it a lot from people who are just thanking me and I appreciate

02:14:45.580 it.

02:14:46.060 But I always say, you know, this is God doing things through me.

02:14:48.460 This is, and we will do a whole episode on this because what it really comes down to

02:14:52.560 is how you behave when God does things through you.

02:14:55.840 We're supposed to be the conduit through which God does things.

02:14:58.940 And we give all the glory to him who, you know, who else did it?

02:15:02.500 Um, this guy named Jesus, every time people praised him, he says, I do only what the father

02:15:07.740 tells me to do.

02:15:08.620 When I, when the rich young ruler came to him and he said, and he called all good, good,

02:15:12.760 good teacher.

02:15:13.620 Jesus says, why do you call me good?

02:15:15.140 There's no one good but the father.

02:15:16.300 Now, granted he had a, uh, the rich young ruler had an agenda, but Jesus was pointing

02:15:22.060 him.

02:15:22.460 Don't, it's not me.

02:15:23.580 I'm here to fulfill the scriptures.

02:15:24.800 I am not here.

02:15:25.660 It's not about me.

02:15:27.260 So that's one of the things, but I think that is worthy of, of a show.

02:15:32.200 Yeah.

02:15:32.640 I mean, King David comes to mind, King Saul.

02:15:35.100 Like these are dudes that just regular people and you're given this, it's a blessing, but

02:15:41.340 it's so huge.

02:15:42.160 And you see one guy just fail completely.

02:15:44.640 Right.

02:15:45.340 And it's like, man, I might be better off without them because yeah, you could be either

02:15:48.960 one of those characters.

02:15:50.020 You could be the one that brings upon the line of Jesus.

02:15:52.400 So you could be the one that, you know, dies in a ditch.

02:15:55.380 Like this last thing that he did is conjuring, conjuring Samuel, you know, like talking to

02:16:01.320 a witch, which one.

02:16:02.720 And how do you know?

02:16:03.840 Cause it's never that clear, you know, it's never clear of what I'm doing.

02:16:07.940 We're just kind of like making it up as we go.

02:16:10.240 And I'm like, Hey, I'm like at some points you're like, I don't want that.

02:16:14.080 It is crazy though.

02:16:14.680 Cause I think, you know, if you declare that that's what you're doing, which I, you know,

02:16:19.140 I'll take responsibility, but I have declared, I've talked to God and asked him to use this,

02:16:25.160 do what he wants with it.

02:16:26.360 It's not my show.

02:16:27.380 It's God's show.

02:16:28.460 I make a habit of doing that.

02:16:30.080 If you do that and then God goes, well, here's resources, build it bigger than this thing

02:16:35.760 that you've given to me.

02:16:37.460 Well, I think how kind of, we're like real big bitches if we don't been given that.

02:16:42.340 And then they go, and now I'm like, I got it, this thing.

02:16:45.920 And there's a million things you can do with this.

02:16:48.440 And, and I, but I've been given a task and I know this is very obscure to people, but

02:16:54.100 I'm like, I have this thing and I've been given a task and it's been gratefully given

02:16:59.160 to me.

02:16:59.600 I don't know how to do it.

02:17:01.060 Yeah.

02:17:01.360 And I keep asking and I don't know what to do.

02:17:03.520 And at a certain point, I'm like, I just kind of want to give it back because I don't.

02:17:07.080 Yeah.

02:17:07.500 You know what I'm saying?

02:17:08.240 I would just say the people who, people who gave it back did not, things didn't turn out

02:17:10.920 well for him.

02:17:11.640 Jonah is a good example.

02:17:13.820 God said to go to Nineveh, he says, nope, I'm going to Tarshish.

02:17:16.020 Okay, well now you're going to get swallowed by a fish.

02:17:19.000 You know, the, the, the people who, the parable that Jesus gave about the talents, God, Jesus,

02:17:25.480 they were given talents, you know, some, two of them did right.

02:17:29.020 The other one said, I'm just going to hide it.

02:17:30.260 What happened to him?

02:17:31.040 So it's a, it's a big responsibility.

02:17:33.680 But yeah, I think we should do a, we should do an episode on that.

02:17:36.160 I think that's, that's huge because.

02:17:37.640 That would be a very useful topic.

02:17:39.560 Because this gets, this kind of gets into the spiritual warfare.

02:17:42.100 So if we can actually wrap up with, with this, because one of the goals,

02:17:46.020 of my spiritual warfare class, mine and John's is not just to teach people how to do it,

02:17:51.680 but I want, at the end, it's going to be a 12 month course.

02:17:54.680 And the reason it's so intense is because the goal is once you go through the course,

02:17:58.100 now your responsibility is to do it for others.

02:18:01.200 We're, we're training warriors to go out there and do it.

02:18:04.520 I don't want you just to sit at our feet and just keep listening to us after a year.

02:18:08.400 If you go through this, you have the ability now to go out and spread and multiply it.

02:18:13.040 Well, I think a good segue into that is something you were talking about a minute ago,

02:18:17.580 Raven, when you were saying that there's all these distractions.

02:18:21.320 That you can, that the golden apple that takes your eyes off the prize of the Great Commission.

02:18:25.640 And it's funny when, you know, cause I'm doing this,

02:18:27.800 the spiritual warfare class is going to be with myself and with John Linhart.

02:18:30.680 We're going to be, we're doing it together because we just,

02:18:32.460 we come at it from different angles.

02:18:33.400 And I think it'll give people a complete picture.

02:18:36.360 But we were talking about all the different types of spiritual warfare

02:18:39.540 and all the different ways of attacks because we want to be as thorough as possible.

02:18:42.940 And when, and he, he and I were talking to one thing he said that kind of blew my mind.

02:18:46.240 He, and he said, you know, you know what,

02:18:47.440 one of the most common areas of spiritual warfare,

02:18:49.980 spiritual attack is that we don't recognize is distraction.

02:18:54.220 Oh yeah.

02:18:55.340 Because again, we think of it as, you know,

02:18:59.200 something spectacular happening, you know,

02:19:01.940 being possessed by a demon and talking like this and your head spinning around

02:19:05.500 and all these terrible things going on that you see in movies.

02:19:09.220 No, that's the rare aspect of it.

02:19:12.120 The Satan is subtle.

02:19:14.460 He, as we talked about before,

02:19:15.620 he just wants you to skew things a little bit,

02:19:17.680 just get you pointed one other way so that you're not doing the will of God.

02:19:22.000 And politics is another.

02:19:23.300 You talked about Albino now being a big, I don't know, political guy.

02:19:26.140 That's a distraction.

02:19:28.460 You, God didn't call you to be a Republican or a Democrat or a conservative or a liberal.

02:19:32.060 Well, he called you to make disciples of all men.

02:19:36.020 And if your focus is on winning back America,

02:19:38.700 not saying there's anything wrong with that.

02:19:40.380 I think we should try to make our household moral,

02:19:44.460 our community, our city, our state, and our government in that order,

02:19:48.380 more holy and more Christ-like.

02:19:50.240 But if that's your main goal, what aren't you doing?

02:19:54.100 You can get distracted by all these different things.

02:19:56.180 And Satan can just put a little distraction there.

02:19:59.500 And he does it.

02:20:00.000 I mean, I'm working on the course now,

02:20:03.480 and I've been distracted by some things that have happened with some sports teams I follow.

02:20:08.400 And I was convicted.

02:20:09.740 And God said, you know what?

02:20:10.620 If you spent as much time working on this course as you do following the message boards on ESPN,

02:20:17.440 you know how much more you'd have accomplished?

02:20:18.640 I'm like, you're right.

02:20:19.460 That was a distraction.

02:20:20.200 So that just kind of dovetails into the warfare class.

02:20:26.880 And the reason that we even started it or had this endeavor was I,

02:20:32.020 through my Patreon, through comments here and there,

02:20:34.540 so many people have been talking about being under spiritual attack as Christians

02:20:38.500 and not knowing what to do and having spiritual oppression and just saying,

02:20:44.600 well, you know, I'm just, this is just my lot in life.

02:20:46.640 Satan has got me.

02:20:48.000 I'm under attack.

02:20:49.260 And I don't know what to do.

02:20:51.180 And then I mentioned, I think I mentioned on this one,

02:20:54.200 one of our podcasts and maybe a couple other places that,

02:20:56.680 yeah, I'm thinking about doing a spiritual warfare class.

02:20:59.080 Because, you know, it seems like something people need.

02:21:00.580 And I was just, had a deluge of people saying, yes, do this.

02:21:05.380 And thinking about it more and talking over it with John,

02:21:08.540 it's a huge need for it.

02:21:11.440 And so people have been signing up for pre-registering just to let me know

02:21:17.660 how much attention I should be giving this.

02:21:19.500 It's, it's been pretty overwhelming.

02:21:21.620 I get signups all the time.

02:21:23.120 People saying, I want to know more.

02:21:24.440 And just for those of you who have signed up,

02:21:26.640 I will, you'll start receiving emails pretty soon,

02:21:29.160 probably this week, prepping you for it.

02:21:31.500 The class is going to start in April, right after Bohemian Grove.

02:21:35.140 All right.

02:21:36.140 There we go.

02:21:36.480 We're going to need it after that.

02:21:37.980 And I'm going to start sending out emails with video attachments,

02:21:40.680 prepping for it, just getting you ready to,

02:21:42.700 to understand who this class is for and who it's not for.

02:21:45.720 It's for Christians.

02:21:47.820 It's not for non-Christians.

02:21:49.240 If you're a non-Christian, I'm not going to stop you from taking the course,

02:21:51.880 but just know you won't fully get it because the purpose is to let you know

02:21:54.480 the authority that you have through Jesus right now.

02:21:58.240 You are not a victim.

02:21:59.760 You have victory.

02:22:01.820 But if you,

02:22:03.000 but the only way you're going to lose a fight is if you don't fight.

02:22:05.300 I gave the analogy before.

02:22:06.640 If you know,

02:22:07.140 we're grown men.

02:22:07.860 If a 10 year old kid comes and starts,

02:22:10.160 you know,

02:22:10.480 attacking us and like punching us,

02:22:12.520 what are you going to do?

02:22:13.200 You're going to pick that kid up and throw him somewhere because we know we're stronger

02:22:16.340 than the kid.

02:22:17.140 But if you don't believe you're stronger than the kid and you curl up in a ball and don't

02:22:21.160 fight back,

02:22:21.760 well,

02:22:21.860 eventually that 10 year old is going to wear you out.

02:22:24.160 That's the same with us and the fallen angels and the demons.

02:22:28.720 We have authority through Jesus over them.

02:22:30.940 But if you don't fight,

02:22:32.580 you're going to lose.

02:22:33.460 And if you don't know how to fight,

02:22:35.320 you're going to lose.

02:22:36.040 So that's what the spiritual work bear class is going to teach you how to recognize it

02:22:39.480 and know what,

02:22:40.360 know that distraction is part of it.

02:22:42.300 Knowing that again,

02:22:44.900 number one is you can do it.

02:22:46.380 Number two is for Christians,

02:22:47.340 you have the authority.

02:22:49.000 Um,

02:22:49.340 the knowing the difference between possession and oppression as a Christian,

02:22:53.100 you cannot be possessed by a demon,

02:22:54.340 but you can be oppressed.

02:22:55.540 Possession is internal.

02:22:56.440 Oppression comes external and you're all going to be attacked and people.

02:23:01.180 And so the funny thing,

02:23:02.560 not funny,

02:23:03.160 ha ha,

02:23:03.600 but you know,

02:23:04.240 funny,

02:23:04.520 peculiar is that our churches don't teach us about this.

02:23:09.220 When we become Christians,

02:23:10.120 we've talked about,

02:23:11.440 yes,

02:23:11.560 you have salvation,

02:23:12.440 you have eternal life.

02:23:13.180 Your sins are forgiven.

02:23:13.840 That's great.

02:23:14.300 But what they don't tell you is,

02:23:15.860 Oh,

02:23:15.980 by the way,

02:23:16.500 you've just picked a side in a war.

02:23:19.860 When you become a Christian,

02:23:21.120 you've just stepped on the battlefield,

02:23:22.680 whether you'd like it or not,

02:23:23.860 there was a war going on and you've just definitively taken,

02:23:26.340 and that means you're going to get attacked.

02:23:29.020 So you shouldn't be surprised when it happens.

02:23:31.640 You need to know how to do it.

02:23:33.240 You are in a war.

02:23:34.240 It is not optional.

02:23:35.560 You cannot sit it out.

02:23:36.640 When you are a Christian,

02:23:37.700 you have just declared,

02:23:38.820 I am on the side of God.

02:23:40.260 And the enemy says,

02:23:41.080 okay,

02:23:41.460 you're,

02:23:41.800 you are not on my side.

02:23:43.460 I'm going to war against you.

02:23:45.020 You need to know how to battle it.

02:23:46.400 You need to know the different ways.

02:23:47.480 You need to know yourself.

02:23:49.320 You need to know what triggers you because you have a familiar spirit who knows how to trigger you.

02:23:54.500 You need to know that.

02:23:55.340 You need to know how to battle them.

02:23:56.780 So we're going to cover all this.

02:23:57.840 We're going to cover triggers like your anger,

02:24:01.000 your self-esteem,

02:24:02.520 pornography.

02:24:03.280 We're going to do probably an entire month on pornography for men and women because it's very different.

02:24:09.100 The pornography that men have is more overt and more shameful,

02:24:12.440 but women have a form of pornography as well.

02:24:14.160 That's much more subtle and much more socially accepted,

02:24:16.780 but it does the same thing.

02:24:18.260 What is pornography?

02:24:19.420 It's seeing it's a fantasy,

02:24:22.960 a sexual fantasy about someone who is not your spouse that causes you to touch yourself.

02:24:28.880 Women have it too,

02:24:30.000 but it's in romance novels and romance movies.

02:24:32.820 What is it about?

02:24:33.420 It's about some fantasy guy who is not their husband,

02:24:36.880 who gets them sexually aroused because he fits a fantasy.

02:24:40.940 It's the same thing,

02:24:41.920 but it's not behind a counter or in some sleazy video shop.

02:24:46.060 It's in regular bookstores.

02:24:47.780 It's on,

02:24:48.480 I tell my wife all the time,

02:24:49.540 she always watching these Christmas romance movies.

02:24:51.880 And I'm like,

02:24:52.260 you know what?

02:24:52.600 That's really pornography for you.

02:24:54.580 No,

02:24:54.900 it's not.

02:24:55.300 It's not.

02:24:55.780 That's no nudity.

02:24:57.720 Nudity is for men.

02:24:59.560 We get turned on by primarily by seeing a naked woman.

02:25:02.520 Women don't get turned on the same way by seeing a guy's butt.

02:25:05.320 Women have a different channel for their,

02:25:08.760 they're much more emotional.

02:25:09.840 So seeing this guy who is a banker or an accountant or whatever,

02:25:13.540 or I'm sorry,

02:25:13.980 not a banker,

02:25:14.700 a business owner who's just has a private jet and is like Indiana Jones or

02:25:18.320 something like that,

02:25:19.060 that gets them riled up.

02:25:20.680 Yeah.

02:25:21.240 Or,

02:25:21.920 you know,

02:25:22.100 in the Christmas movies is always the same story.

02:25:24.460 Some woman who's like a big shot executive goes back to her small hometown.

02:25:28.560 And there's another guy who raises turkeys for a living.

02:25:30.620 And she's going to help him raise turkeys.

02:25:33.100 They don't like each other at first.

02:25:34.260 Then they start slowly falling in love.

02:25:36.540 And she moves away from her big corporate job back to the country and raises turkeys with him.

02:25:41.600 Yep.

02:25:42.120 That's a fantasy.

02:25:42.960 It's ridiculous.

02:25:43.760 But he's always some stud.

02:25:44.940 He always looks like Brad Pitt or somebody like that.

02:25:46.800 Cause you know,

02:25:47.360 all Turkey farmers look like,

02:25:48.600 you know,

02:25:49.060 Hollywood studs.

02:25:50.200 He's all chiseled and all that kind of stuff.

02:25:52.300 It's just,

02:25:52.840 it's,

02:25:54.280 it's the same thing.

02:25:55.840 But the purpose of it is that is an Avenue through which you,

02:26:00.060 that's spiritual warfare.

02:26:01.400 We're going to get into all that stuff.

02:26:03.320 And that thing is really heavy though.

02:26:05.140 That,

02:26:05.340 that idea that once you become a Christian,

02:26:07.120 you're choosing a side in,

02:26:08.320 in a war.

02:26:09.240 We just got,

02:26:09.840 we got a message on,

02:26:10.800 I didn't deal with it.

02:26:11.460 I think you did.

02:26:12.280 Okay.

02:26:12.540 That's exactly what I was thinking about.

02:26:13.720 Shout out to astrology,

02:26:14.640 astronomy,

02:26:15.660 astrology,

02:26:16.260 bimbo.

02:26:16.600 Bimbo,

02:26:17.160 bimbo astrology,

02:26:18.460 something like that.

02:26:19.280 It's this chick who like,

02:26:20.500 you know,

02:26:20.840 bimbo astrology,

02:26:21.780 bimbo astrology.

02:26:22.520 She's into all this esoteric stuff.

02:26:24.400 She sent a hilarious message at first and it said,

02:26:27.140 the information on your show is,

02:26:29.040 is incredibly useful for everyone.

02:26:32.120 However,

02:26:32.880 sometimes when I watch it,

02:26:34.120 I cry.

02:26:34.900 And I,

02:26:35.600 and I,

02:26:35.860 and I said,

02:26:36.680 I thought it was funny because she's an astrologist or whatever.

02:26:40.200 And she's also a self-proclaimed bimbo.

02:26:42.120 And if you go through her page,

02:26:43.300 both of these things are true.

02:26:44.900 And I,

02:26:45.640 and I said,

02:26:46.220 and then I just said very straight.

02:26:48.440 I just said,

02:26:48.880 thank you.

02:26:49.280 Blap,

02:26:49.440 blap,

02:26:49.660 blap.

02:26:50.000 And then she liked it and she left it alone.

02:26:52.300 And then all of a sudden she,

02:26:53.620 she reached back out again and she goes,

02:26:55.460 Hey,

02:26:55.660 I've been experiencing these demonic attacks.

02:26:59.100 I've been praying more than I ever have before.

02:27:01.260 Yeah.

02:27:01.840 It's like,

02:27:02.200 yeah.

02:27:02.440 Also,

02:27:02.880 I am aware that I have,

02:27:04.480 uh,

02:27:05.380 sort of petitioned these lowercase G gods over,

02:27:08.740 over my life.

02:27:10.000 And she basically just said that she was like confused.

02:27:13.040 Um,

02:27:13.500 confused.

02:27:14.340 And that's exactly what I told you though,

02:27:16.720 was like,

02:27:17.040 you have picked a side.

02:27:18.780 And when you do this,

02:27:20.240 there are things that have rights over you.

02:27:22.860 Yep.

02:27:23.060 There are things that you are in agreement with.

02:27:25.060 There are spirits that have been attached to you for however long they've been attached to you.

02:27:29.760 They're not pumped,

02:27:30.760 you know?

02:27:31.560 And so these things are going to,

02:27:33.440 and,

02:27:33.600 and this is a thing that happens to a lot of people.

02:27:35.560 Well,

02:27:35.740 they're,

02:27:36.060 they'll experience this and,

02:27:38.060 you know,

02:27:39.560 simply put the correlation is,

02:27:41.160 well,

02:27:41.400 I started to follow Christ and all of a sudden I started having demonic attacks.

02:27:44.840 Yeah.

02:27:45.420 And so clearly that's not the right way to go because these things are terrifying and they weren't happening before.

02:27:51.260 So I'll go back to that,

02:27:52.800 but it's just,

02:27:53.700 it goes to show you like,

02:27:55.700 yeah,

02:27:55.880 we don't know how to,

02:27:56.980 how to do this thing.

02:27:57.900 If you don't,

02:27:58.740 if you,

02:27:59.340 if you don't have this anointing,

02:28:00.580 the Holy Spirit,

02:28:01.260 if you're not a Christian,

02:28:02.460 if you haven't made this proclamation,

02:28:03.760 if you're not,

02:28:04.500 you know,

02:28:05.240 having your eyes fixed on,

02:28:06.640 on God,

02:28:08.020 then yeah,

02:28:09.100 you'll,

02:28:09.420 you'll cast a thing out,

02:28:10.500 which happens to a lot of people,

02:28:11.780 right?

02:28:11.920 They'll sage their apartments like dumbasses and they come back sevenfold.

02:28:16.500 Ed,

02:28:16.720 how much does,

02:28:17.400 does the course cost?

02:28:19.940 We are finalizing the pricing,

02:28:21.280 but it's probably going to be two tiers.

02:28:23.900 One's going to be both can be triple digits because it's,

02:28:26.080 it's just a lot of work.

02:28:27.200 So it's probably going to be like a hundred for the low,

02:28:29.320 lower tier,

02:28:29.780 maybe a couple hundred for the higher tier,

02:28:31.120 but you're going to get a bunch of other stuff.

02:28:32.320 You're going to also get access to a lot of John's material that charges a

02:28:34.920 lot more.

02:28:35.220 You're going to,

02:28:35.520 it's going to be a discount because you're going to get like access to

02:28:39.260 certain books and things like that.

02:28:40.780 And some of the,

02:28:41.220 how much,

02:28:42.380 how much do bimbos make?

02:28:43.620 How much do astrology?

02:28:44.440 I don't think bimbo astrology bimbos make anything.

02:28:47.500 This is,

02:28:47.880 this is horrific.

02:28:48.580 This is a debacle.

02:28:49.840 We'll figure it out.

02:28:51.080 But she needs to,

02:28:51.980 yo,

02:28:52.160 but no,

02:28:52.480 but no shit though.

02:28:53.380 Shout out to astrology,

02:28:55.000 astrology,

02:28:55.980 the bimbo,

02:28:56.500 shout out to the bimbo,

02:28:57.440 because it's like,

02:28:59.100 what a crazy word.

02:28:59.920 I just look at it and I go,

02:29:01.260 damn dude,

02:29:02.280 like you saw something and it's spiritual implications were obvious to you,

02:29:07.720 meaning astrology and all these different things that you've looked into.

02:29:11.280 And it was bad,

02:29:13.000 but like now you're backing out of it and you're dealing,

02:29:16.220 it's like,

02:29:16.440 look,

02:29:16.660 you know,

02:29:17.500 I'm no better than you.

02:29:18.940 I've,

02:29:19.100 I've been,

02:29:19.840 you know,

02:29:20.560 through all this occult crap and doing all these things for all these years.

02:29:23.500 And I've been practicing,

02:29:24.280 but I've been looking into it and abstaining from Christ for what was like 16,

02:29:28.660 17 years.

02:29:29.340 Um,

02:29:30.600 and,

02:29:31.100 and now like you're,

02:29:32.020 you're,

02:29:32.280 you're backing out of it and then,

02:29:34.100 and then to reach out and say like,

02:29:36.160 yo,

02:29:36.440 I need some help.

02:29:37.500 Yeah.

02:29:37.940 I'm getting attacked.

02:29:39.160 And then to have this like genuine conversation about it,

02:29:42.100 like,

02:29:42.820 dude,

02:29:43.220 I pray that she puts the bimbo behind her,

02:29:46.620 put the,

02:29:47.020 get thee behind me,

02:29:47.980 bimbo.

02:29:48.000 Keep the name.

02:29:48.600 It's a great name.

02:29:49.220 It's a great name.

02:29:49.840 Yeah.

02:29:50.220 But just,

02:29:50.860 I don't know if bimbos for Christ is really the thing,

02:29:52.780 but,

02:29:53.000 but what I'm saying is hell yeah,

02:29:55.580 dude.

02:29:56.040 Like you're,

02:29:56.600 you're making this progress.

02:29:57.840 Now you're realizing,

02:29:59.020 you're realizing that this is wrong.

02:30:00.360 And like,

02:30:00.780 yeah,

02:30:00.880 this path is going to get tumultuous.

02:30:03.320 Uh,

02:30:03.560 but,

02:30:03.920 but you know,

02:30:05.220 like that's awesome.

02:30:06.540 That's so,

02:30:07.400 and I hope that whatever I said,

02:30:09.440 like something stuck,

02:30:10.340 I hope she keeps,

02:30:11.460 you know,

02:30:11.980 seeking Christ.

02:30:12.720 And I hope she doesn't get dissuaded by these,

02:30:15.340 these,

02:30:15.900 you know,

02:30:16.400 dark attacks that you're,

02:30:18.160 you're engaging in a war.

02:30:19.520 It's a war for souls.

02:30:21.180 And one thing we're going to talk about things like that.

02:30:23.080 Oh,

02:30:23.320 we're going to cover,

02:30:23.960 you know,

02:30:24.080 generational curses,

02:30:25.180 things that your ancestors did that it doesn't seem fair.

02:30:27.960 Why,

02:30:28.240 why are you a part of it?

02:30:29.440 If your ancestors did it,

02:30:30.580 well,

02:30:30.800 because you're repeating it yourself because they've passed it on to you.

02:30:35.400 And,

02:30:35.960 and you've made cut God deals in laws.

02:30:38.820 God is very legalistic in the sense that he cannot break his own laws and

02:30:43.860 covenants.

02:30:44.180 And God deals with things through covenants.

02:30:45.680 And if you make a covenant unknowingly or unknowingly,

02:30:48.860 you've just given an entity legal rights over you.

02:30:51.880 And unless you break them intentionally,

02:30:54.200 God can do,

02:30:54.720 God is not going to break the covenant for you.

02:30:56.980 He will,

02:30:57.440 if you ask,

02:30:58.380 but he won't do it outside of your own purview.

02:31:00.660 So you need to,

02:31:01.220 I'll give a quick example.

02:31:03.400 you know,

02:31:03.660 my mother and grandma,

02:31:05.460 my grandmother would,

02:31:06.800 she lived and died,

02:31:08.040 unfortunately in poverty,

02:31:09.220 but she would always say things like,

02:31:11.480 Oh,

02:31:11.600 you know,

02:31:11.800 money is tough to come by.

02:31:13.180 I,

02:31:13.380 you know,

02:31:13.500 I'm never going to get ahead.

02:31:14.660 We live a tough life.

02:31:15.740 When you keep saying those things,

02:31:17.060 you're making a covenant.

02:31:18.440 My mother would say those same things.

02:31:21.140 And every,

02:31:21.920 and she would have financial difficulty here and there.

02:31:24.000 And I would find myself when I was younger,

02:31:26.180 repeating it.

02:31:27.040 What am I doing?

02:31:27.960 I am speaking a curse over my own life.

02:31:30.900 When I say,

02:31:31.720 well,

02:31:31.940 never have enough money.

02:31:33.100 It's just not my lot in life.

02:31:34.460 That rich being rich is for someone else.

02:31:36.460 No,

02:31:36.860 I had to admit that that is a generational curse that has been passed on to me.

02:31:41.640 I break it.

02:31:42.300 I come to the courtroom of Jehovah and I have the advocate,

02:31:47.120 the Holy spirit on my side.

02:31:48.380 And I officially break that covenant with the demon here.

02:31:52.260 Cause he,

02:31:52.740 cause they have to appear at the courtroom and you can tell them,

02:31:56.560 I break this covenant.

02:31:57.900 I shatter it in the name.

02:31:59.000 I bring it before Jehovah.

02:32:00.220 And I said,

02:32:00.760 tear it up.

02:32:01.260 I'm no longer going to be a part of it.

02:32:03.320 And that's how you,

02:32:04.360 that's one of the ways you break a generational curse.

02:32:06.800 Yeah.

02:32:07.120 This is,

02:32:07.540 this is a one of them.

02:32:09.340 This episode is crazy.

02:32:10.700 This is one of the things that's been haunting me a little bit.

02:32:12.740 It's like,

02:32:13.080 I have this thing in my life that I always get to the door.

02:32:16.600 Like I'm very good at a lot of things.

02:32:19.580 I like,

02:32:20.220 you name it.

02:32:20.760 I could probably do it,

02:32:21.720 but I get to the door and I never like,

02:32:25.260 like kick it open.

02:32:26.180 If that makes any sense.

02:32:27.260 Yeah.

02:32:27.500 Yeah.

02:32:28.040 So that's why I'm like,

02:32:28.920 kind of like I'm looking at whatever we're doing here and,

02:32:30.960 and a couple of other things.

02:32:31.780 And I'm just like,

02:32:32.360 there's that thing in your head,

02:32:33.820 that intrusive thought.

02:32:35.060 That's like,

02:32:35.440 that's who you are.

02:32:36.860 It's just the door and you stop.

02:32:39.180 Yeah.

02:32:39.660 And I'm like,

02:32:40.860 I don't know.

02:32:41.380 Even earlier today,

02:32:42.200 I was like,

02:32:42.720 that's it.

02:32:43.180 Yeah.

02:32:43.300 You get to the door and then that's it,

02:32:44.820 man.

02:32:45.000 And that's like the end of the path for you.

02:32:46.760 I think,

02:32:47.260 I think people do this on the minor and major too.

02:32:49.660 Like on the minor,

02:32:50.380 it's dumb crap.

02:32:51.060 Like,

02:32:51.320 Oh,

02:32:51.420 I just feel dead today.

02:32:52.620 Or like,

02:32:53.180 Oh,

02:32:53.660 you know,

02:32:54.020 just like these stupid little,

02:32:55.480 like the way that these things have infiltrated our language.

02:32:58.420 It's so,

02:32:59.020 cause it,

02:32:59.660 I'm just,

02:32:59.980 I'm telling you just today,

02:33:01.360 that's what I was,

02:33:02.100 that's exactly what I was thinking.

02:33:03.340 I'm like,

02:33:03.600 man,

02:33:04.180 you get to the door and I'm like,

02:33:05.440 yeah,

02:33:05.620 I don't,

02:33:05.980 I don't know.

02:33:06.600 I just,

02:33:06.960 I feel like this is what I do.

02:33:08.600 Right.

02:33:09.140 And then,

02:33:09.740 and then your,

02:33:10.520 your own voice goes,

02:33:11.460 yeah.

02:33:12.000 Yeah.

02:33:12.380 And even though I know better,

02:33:13.440 it sounds like you.

02:33:14.220 Yeah.

02:33:14.500 And I'm like,

02:33:15.040 and then,

02:33:15.380 then I agree with it.

02:33:17.440 And then I come and do this show and the show said,

02:33:19.580 no,

02:33:19.700 I don't do that.

02:33:20.520 Yeah.

02:33:21.280 Those are confidence you make.

02:33:22.740 Those are those,

02:33:23.660 those kind of curses.

02:33:24.940 And that,

02:33:26.100 those are your strongholds.

02:33:27.500 No,

02:33:27.660 no,

02:33:27.740 I'm fucking doing it,

02:33:28.480 man.

02:33:29.000 Right.

02:33:29.800 I just said,

02:33:30.260 but those are called strongholds.

02:33:32.140 And the Bible talks a lot about strongholds.

02:33:33.680 A stronghold is a,

02:33:35.260 a,

02:33:35.540 basically a weapon store.

02:33:37.040 It's a place where all the weapons against you are stored in your own mind so that you're

02:33:41.080 a familiar spirit knows.

02:33:42.860 Oh,

02:33:43.240 he's,

02:33:43.640 he's making progress.

02:33:44.680 Let me go into the storehouse and use his fear against him.

02:33:46.640 I have,

02:33:47.160 I will,

02:33:47.480 I'll be again,

02:33:48.380 very transparent growing up.

02:33:50.220 I,

02:33:50.660 as a child,

02:33:51.120 I had a fear of rejection and understand this.

02:33:53.480 Satan,

02:33:53.940 forgive my language.

02:33:54.640 Satan's an asshole.

02:33:55.680 He doesn't,

02:33:56.300 he has no honor.

02:33:57.040 He doesn't say,

02:33:57.420 you know what?

02:33:57.800 This is a baby.

02:33:58.500 I'm going to wait till become an adult.

02:33:59.680 Then I'm going to attack him.

02:34:00.800 No.

02:34:01.900 When I was a baby,

02:34:02.700 my parents divorced when I was two years old.

02:34:05.540 And even as a baby,

02:34:07.380 Satan was in my ear saying,

02:34:08.680 that's your fault.

02:34:09.400 They rejected you.

02:34:12.200 And so to this day,

02:34:13.280 I struggle with rejection.

02:34:14.700 That is a stronghold of mine.

02:34:16.100 When I feel like someone's rejecting me,

02:34:18.280 that I go into a shell because as a child,

02:34:22.360 they were already there knowing that he's being raised in a Christian household.

02:34:26.120 He's going to be a problem.

02:34:27.340 Let's start planting strongholds in his mind now to use against him.

02:34:30.860 And those have to be intentionally broken.

02:34:32.780 But rejection is one of my triggers.

02:34:36.080 And you have to be aware of those things.

02:34:37.640 So that's why the first couple of months,

02:34:39.800 it's going to be about knowing the story of Jehovah and knowing yourself.

02:34:43.420 Because the first thing is defense.

02:34:45.320 You have to put on the armor.

02:34:47.620 In a spiritual warfare class,

02:34:49.140 we're not going to teach you attacking in the first couple of months.

02:34:51.340 The first couple of months are just going to be about defending,

02:34:54.420 knowing who you are,

02:34:55.400 getting your armor on.

02:34:56.700 Then and only then are you able to start going forward and going on the offensive.

02:35:00.800 You have to start with the defensive.

02:35:01.740 You have to figure out your triggers,

02:35:04.780 your strongholds,

02:35:06.620 address those first,

02:35:08.100 and then you can go out to battle.

02:35:09.820 It's like,

02:35:10.100 you're not going to,

02:35:10.800 you know,

02:35:11.440 you're not going to go out and start fighting in a war.

02:35:13.840 If you don't know how to use a gun,

02:35:15.740 we have to teach you how to use it.

02:35:17.400 We need to teach you how to put on your helmet and your Kevlar and all that kind of stuff.

02:35:21.100 Then you're ready for battle.

02:35:23.020 So it goes the same way.

02:35:24.780 And so we're going to teach you all of that,

02:35:26.520 how to identify your triggers.

02:35:28.600 You do it the way Jesus did it.

02:35:29.940 You know why Jesus was driven to,

02:35:31.760 it says the Holy Spirit,

02:35:32.600 after he got baptized,

02:35:33.460 he was,

02:35:33.820 the Holy Spirit drove him in the original language to the wilderness to be tempted by Satan.

02:35:39.180 Why?

02:35:39.420 Because the Holy Spirit didn't like him?

02:35:40.900 Of course not.

02:35:41.860 It was to show Jesus what his triggers were,

02:35:44.980 because the devil knows your triggers.

02:35:48.500 And how did he tempt Jesus?

02:35:50.080 Turn stones to bread.

02:35:52.220 Tempt God with,

02:35:53.420 jumping off the tower and having God save you.

02:35:57.440 And he said,

02:35:58.400 you know,

02:35:58.620 bow down before me and I'll give you the nations of the world.

02:36:01.280 You don't have to go through all this stuff,

02:36:02.900 Jesus.

02:36:03.520 If you bow down before me,

02:36:04.720 I'll give you the nations.

02:36:05.620 You don't have to fight and die for it.

02:36:07.380 I'll do it for you.

02:36:08.640 So that was compromise.

02:36:11.120 So Jesus spent his entire life doing the opposite.

02:36:14.200 Turn the stones into bread.

02:36:15.700 Oh,

02:36:15.900 so one of my triggers is food.

02:36:17.580 Jesus fasted all the time.

02:36:19.360 One of his,

02:36:20.320 one of the triggers is compromise.

02:36:21.240 And,

02:36:22.020 and so Jesus never compromised.

02:36:24.520 He always did the opposite.

02:36:25.840 And,

02:36:26.280 and testing God and doing things on his own.

02:36:28.980 Jesus says,

02:36:29.420 no,

02:36:29.600 I will only do what the father tells me to do.

02:36:31.660 Jesus spent his life doing the opposite of those triggers,

02:36:34.700 which is why Satan had no power over him.

02:36:37.340 How do you know what your triggers are?

02:36:39.860 Just look at your life and look at the places you always fall.

02:36:43.580 Those are your triggers.

02:36:45.020 And John pioneered a process to get rid of them or to at least subside them.

02:36:50.820 And you keep doing it.

02:36:51.560 You will eventually get rid of them.

02:36:52.600 We're going to teach you that.

02:36:54.060 And then the enemy no longer has a stronghold.

02:36:56.660 Now you're ready to attack.

02:36:58.320 I'm getting ready for,

02:37:00.660 I,

02:37:00.980 in January,

02:37:01.600 I'm going to start a fast.

02:37:02.760 I don't,

02:37:03.020 I don't know how long it's like the church is talking about fasting right now.

02:37:05.940 And I,

02:37:06.200 it's,

02:37:06.320 it's kind of been on me to,

02:37:08.000 to,

02:37:08.460 but if I was in,

02:37:09.620 if I was in the wilderness and Satan was tempting me,

02:37:12.260 well,

02:37:12.600 Satan would be like,

02:37:13.500 turn that rock into chocolate.

02:37:14.860 And I'd have been like,

02:37:15.880 Oh shit.

02:37:16.620 Yep.

02:37:17.000 Going to turn that rock into chocolate.

02:37:18.280 So,

02:37:18.560 I mean,

02:37:18.780 what I'm going to do is,

02:37:20.620 uh,

02:37:21.300 I think I'm going to start with what Laura Baker was talking about.

02:37:24.560 The 23 hours off one hour on for three days.

02:37:28.980 Uh,

02:37:29.380 and then after that,

02:37:30.340 I'm just going to do one meal a day.

02:37:32.600 Um,

02:37:33.480 and then I might have like a short,

02:37:35.060 like an intermittent fast where like there's a short window of time during the day where I'll eat,

02:37:38.360 but I'm definitely giving up,

02:37:39.840 uh,

02:37:40.740 sweets and,

02:37:42.260 and,

02:37:43.060 uh,

02:37:43.620 and carbs and probably,

02:37:45.900 uh,

02:37:46.760 no,

02:37:46.900 I think that's it.

02:37:47.400 Probably just sweets and carbs and not.

02:37:49.500 Cause I,

02:37:49.800 you know,

02:37:50.620 when I do the show,

02:37:51.560 I do the show better when I'm fasted.

02:37:53.860 Me too.

02:37:54.240 And,

02:37:54.640 and,

02:37:54.740 and then,

02:37:55.220 you know,

02:37:55.620 if I get out of here,

02:37:56.500 what time is it now?

02:37:57.160 It's,

02:37:57.440 it's five 30.

02:37:58.720 Yeah.

02:37:59.200 If I,

02:37:59.720 I would have successfully fasted.

02:38:01.500 I had breakfast this morning,

02:38:02.260 but if I,

02:38:02.820 you know,

02:38:03.220 there's been times where I've come out of here,

02:38:04.420 I'm like,

02:38:04.640 Oh,

02:38:04.880 it's five o'clock.

02:38:05.660 It's six o'clock.

02:38:06.220 Like I'm done.

02:38:06.980 And,

02:38:07.320 and now I have a window of an hour or so to eat dinner.

02:38:11.080 Then I close it off and I'm,

02:38:12.280 and I do the same thing the next day.

02:38:13.620 So I think I'm just going to do that.

02:38:14.960 We'll do the 23 hours off one hour on do that for three days.

02:38:19.440 And then I'll just shorten the window after that.

02:38:21.260 And,

02:38:21.420 and,

02:38:21.700 and,

02:38:21.720 you know,

02:38:22.000 just fasting does help.

02:38:23.920 Remember when,

02:38:24.460 when disciples are trying,

02:38:25.520 we're trying to cast out a demon and,

02:38:27.020 and it didn't work.

02:38:28.540 And Jesus said,

02:38:29.540 well,

02:38:29.780 these,

02:38:30.000 this,

02:38:30.140 this kind only comes out through prayer and fasting,

02:38:32.240 which means there are different classes of it.

02:38:33.780 And you're right.

02:38:34.300 I'm faster right now.

02:38:35.300 Actually,

02:38:35.560 I'm not completely.

02:38:36.300 I had this morning.

02:38:37.160 I had my coffee and some bone broth.

02:38:40.260 I heard it doesn't count if the coffee's black.

02:38:42.180 I don't know if that's true.

02:38:43.100 It was.

02:38:43.360 Something about not,

02:38:43.980 not activating your metabolism.

02:38:45.800 If it's,

02:38:46.200 if it's,

02:38:47.040 if it's black,

02:38:47.500 maybe just some fat.

02:38:48.660 I do that.

02:38:49.000 Like it's not bulletproof coffee when I do something,

02:38:50.720 I just blend in some butter,

02:38:52.400 some grass fed butter with it.

02:38:53.780 And I,

02:38:54.060 and I put a scoop of this,

02:38:55.180 this chocolate flavored bone broth,

02:38:58.320 which it's actually,

02:38:59.180 believe it or not,

02:38:59.620 it doesn't taste like the bone broth at all.

02:39:01.860 It's pretty,

02:39:02.440 it's pretty tasty.

02:39:03.360 I love bone broth though.

02:39:04.160 I think even just bone broth.

02:39:05.340 So that's all I've had today.

02:39:06.360 And well,

02:39:06.640 it's two o'clock my time,

02:39:07.640 which,

02:39:07.780 oh yeah,

02:39:08.140 I do.

02:39:08.380 We do need to wrap this up,

02:39:09.860 but yeah,

02:39:10.540 let's,

02:39:11.000 let's bring it in for a landing.

02:39:12.320 I think that that's great though.

02:39:13.580 The,

02:39:13.740 the fasting and,

02:39:14.740 and all these things and,

02:39:15.600 and,

02:39:15.800 you know,

02:39:16.160 trying to understand it.

02:39:17.180 It's,

02:39:17.640 these are all great tools for people that are starting to come to the realization that,

02:39:21.740 you know,

02:39:22.060 something is a riot and that Jesus Christ might be real.

02:39:24.200 I think there's something too.

02:39:26.000 Well,

02:39:26.480 when,

02:39:26.980 when he said these come out with fasting and prayer,

02:39:28.800 but then it's like fasting.

02:39:29.960 Well,

02:39:30.080 what kind?

02:39:31.060 And I don't know.

02:39:31.780 I usually look at people that I feel like you're not doing a food fast.

02:39:34.260 They're like,

02:39:34.480 what the hell are you doing?

02:39:35.180 Like,

02:39:35.360 Oh,

02:39:35.480 I'm giving up,

02:39:36.160 you know,

02:39:36.480 sports for them.

02:39:37.260 And I'm,

02:39:38.040 and I kind of look down on it,

02:39:39.140 but I think there's something to that.

02:39:40.540 Like maybe these type of demons don't come out with maybe food fasting,

02:39:44.660 but if you're going to fast,

02:39:46.160 fast from this.

02:39:47.180 Yeah.

02:39:47.400 What are your distractions?

02:39:48.800 Yeah.

02:39:49.080 Exactly.

02:39:50.000 This is exactly.

02:39:51.620 Yeah.

02:39:52.200 Huh.

02:39:52.780 A lot to think about it.

02:39:54.200 Yeah.

02:39:54.680 You know,

02:39:55.300 doom scrolling.

02:39:55.780 My wife will send me an Instagram,

02:39:57.860 um,

02:39:58.580 funny video.

02:39:59.240 And next thing I know,

02:39:59.700 I'm,

02:39:59.940 I've been scrolling Instagram for like 20 minutes.

02:40:02.120 Like,

02:40:02.320 why am I doom scrolling?

02:40:03.640 I'm like,

02:40:03.920 dude,

02:40:04.080 I've just wasted 20 minutes looking at,

02:40:05.900 at videos of golden retrievers.

02:40:07.700 I'm caught on.

02:40:09.780 I love golden retrievers.

02:40:10.720 What can I tell you?

02:40:12.180 I'm an algorithm of people cutting down trees.

02:40:14.780 You know,

02:40:15.040 what's fantastic.

02:40:15.740 It's an interesting algorithm.

02:40:17.300 My wife was up.

02:40:18.120 My wife,

02:40:18.680 she was on sick talk the other day.

02:40:20.260 That's what I call it.

02:40:21.220 Where she's like,

02:40:21.660 people just talking about like this thing where they got really,

02:40:24.020 really sick and,

02:40:24.640 and what happened.

02:40:25.580 And,

02:40:25.700 and it was just that doctors weren't diagnosing it.

02:40:27.960 And then it turned out to be this horrifying thing.

02:40:29.480 That's super rare.

02:40:30.180 And I'm just like,

02:40:30.720 I think I'm going to join you for the fast,

02:40:33.360 but I think it might be with this.

02:40:34.600 My thing is really,

02:40:35.580 we had a three,

02:40:36.520 we got a three.

02:40:37.740 Okay.

02:40:38.100 I bought for my son,

02:40:39.180 a three pound Hershey bar and I've eaten 75% of it.

02:40:43.600 You have no idea how much chocolate I can eat in one day.

02:40:47.800 If Satan tempted me,

02:40:49.520 it would be turn the rocks into chocolate.

02:40:51.740 Chocolate.

02:40:52.220 Fat shit.

02:40:53.780 And I'd be like,

02:40:55.500 okay.

02:40:57.360 All right,

02:40:57.980 Ed,

02:40:58.240 look,

02:40:58.380 we got to get out of here.

02:40:59.520 One more time before we do,

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02:42:38.120 Excellent,

02:42:38.580 man.

02:42:38.780 What a,

02:42:39.440 what a great episode.

02:42:40.420 Great episode.

02:42:41.200 Yeah.

02:42:41.280 That's what happens.

02:42:42.160 I know what happens when we don't talk for a while.

02:42:44.160 I know.

02:42:44.460 I know.

02:42:44.720 There's stupid jobs in the way.

02:42:47.360 You don't got to make money.

02:42:48.540 That's not important.

02:42:49.780 No.

02:42:50.680 All right.

02:42:51.960 Let's,

02:42:52.260 let's get out of here.

02:42:53.020 I do have something to tell you after it,

02:42:54.700 but it'll be quick.

02:42:56.400 Okay.

02:42:56.660 Guys,

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02:43:02.940 They bred with daughters of men

02:43:07.740 And they will do it again

02:43:11.940 The end is written in the book

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02:43:20.280 Death Squad

02:43:22.020 Death Squad

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02:43:33.340 When the last trumpet sounds

02:43:45.780 And the heavens

02:43:47.080 Not so bad because of this

02:43:49.780 The end is in the book

02:43:50.580 For this book

02:43:51.700 That didn't make money

02:43:51.720 That was Tobit

Nephilim Death Squad - December 31, 2025

Faith By Reason： 2025 in Review w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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