Nephilim Death Squad - Foreign Policy for Dummies w⧸ Dave Benner

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00:00:56.200 I am David Lee Corbo, aka The Raven.

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00:01:35.120 guys joining us today is dave better uh thank you for coming to the show dave uh before we get into

00:01:40.600 the conversation let's talk about what it is you do and where people can find what you do

00:01:44.480 yeah thanks guys thanks for having me i'm already amped up from your intro video you know i'm

00:01:51.240 already pissed at black rock and israel just from viewing that so you guys are doing your job

00:01:55.720 um yeah man i run liberty vault it's a youtube channel i'm also on twitter i do political

00:02:01.720 commentary especially focused on deep state corruption and foreign policy issues you can

00:02:06.740 check me out on twitter at dbenner 83 also my website libertyvault.net and it's interesting

00:02:12.780 that you mentioned bohemian grove i take it that's like your festival i just did a 20 minute

00:02:17.500 segment on bohemian grove with shane cashman so it's kind of ironic oh i'm sure it was a banger

00:02:23.660 we love cashman we just had him on recently uh one of my favorite people yeah the the bohemian

00:02:28.600 grove well actually you know what this kind of i want to start this because i'm a little bit out

00:02:32.720 of my depths i'm politically retarded i'm so excited for this episode you have no idea when

00:02:36.660 this when i'm exposed to this sort of thing because i i come from the background of like

00:02:40.540 geopolitics politics libertarian theory things like that i also do like you know comedy so i

00:02:46.200 dabble in that and i love conspiracies and i also love jesus christ so like we're like all right man

00:02:50.740 dude we got conspiracy we have jesus but when we go separate here yeah it's like i know about

00:02:56.020 politics and david's like politics is theater at the highest level and that's pretty much where

00:02:59.640 it's not amen yeah that's that's my philosophy on these not incorrect well before we even get

00:03:05.600 into it i have to i have to ask because um we used to do a show are we going to be using any

00:03:10.440 words that i might not oh virtually every word if you say the word mises caucus to me i don't

00:03:14.760 really know what even that sounds like a euphemism for a penis to me check out my mises

00:03:18.720 caucus so um we used to do a show and it was a bit politics and culture and comedy and conspiracy

00:03:24.700 was a big blend of all these things and on that show i would say things like uh but you know mark

00:03:30.140 my words one of these days it would come to pass that all of the conspiracies about qanon and you

00:03:37.780 know we were doing the show with clint russell yeah yeah so so i was basically i would say this

00:03:42.020 thing to clint and he wouldn't roll his eyes he would he was you know what he was trepidatious he

00:03:47.060 was graceful about it he was graceful about it he just wasn't too sure how much to get into it but

00:03:51.780 i would say these things that q anon are talking about or you know the anons of q what they always

00:03:56.620 get pissy when you say that um i believe it's a psyop but i do think that many of the things

00:04:01.100 they're harping on will come to pass they'll be exposed in one way or another and as we sit here

00:04:06.100 we've we've you know we're coming off the back of the doj you know releasing how does it like

00:04:11.340 6.5 million files that are some of it is a lot of it is just noise and nonsense seven million yeah

00:04:17.700 insane it seems a little high to me but uh that's how many files have been released and then we also

00:04:23.240 have this starting this shit already i'm just saying it just seems like a lot i would have

00:04:26.940 never guessed it would have been that many um and then we have this deposition that's going on with

00:04:31.380 the clintons which is you know in my opinion it's theater it's all to to bolster this big thing but

00:04:38.200 whatever take it at face value if you look at it um it's remarkable i mean you have bill clinton

00:04:43.260 uh starry-eyed reminiscing over his his epstein days if you look at the videos he's like looking

00:04:49.420 at the evidence on the table of him it's like images you know i remember fucking those kids

00:04:53.440 i remember fucking that kid uh and then you've got uh you know hillary clinton they're asking

00:04:59.220 her about frazzle drip so um you're a guy who's been in this for a really long time you know you

00:05:04.200 were talking earlier you said since 2004 and uh you got back in it when uh when ron paul was running

00:05:09.880 so it's what 2012 oh by the way it's a very cool picture yeah let's pull that off the wall and show

00:05:14.480 that off and i'm i'm curious i like that one there it is yeah yeah shout out to uh um uh dave

00:05:22.660 dave burns yeah he makes great artwork so i'm curious as to your take watching this

00:05:28.320 unfold it seems like uh you know the political realm has been forcibly injected with some real

00:05:33.900 harrowing shit and the the flavor of that harrowing shit is like child sacrifice and and things of

00:05:41.060 that where we it's where we dwell where we reside yeah man so uh what do you think well i mean if

00:05:47.980 you're lambasted as a conspiracy theorist over the last decade you can't say that those people

00:05:54.320 haven't been proven true, at least to some level. And we were just proven true. We can talk about

00:05:59.060 Epstein in a second, but I'll just say the Speaker of the House and the Secretary of State just

00:06:03.540 admitted something that we would be smeared as anti-Semites are saying, and that's that Israel

00:06:08.360 dragged the United States into a freaking regime change war. So that's what they said when they

00:06:13.700 allowed the mass to drop. When it comes to the Epstein files, we're again seeing things come to

00:06:18.800 fruition that a lot of dissidents were smeared for. Now, I never really got that deep into like

00:06:23.920 QAnon, but you can't deny the amount of times these people are speaking in code. And this was

00:06:29.300 asserted back in 2016, when the Podesta emails were hacked, they were using, you know, pizza

00:06:35.180 and grape soda and jerky and other terminology that seemed to refer to stuff that wasn't pizza,

00:06:40.500 wasn't actually jerky and wasn't actually grape soda. And now you see Epstein using that same

00:06:45.740 string of text with various people, including someone that was his erectile dysfunctional

00:06:52.240 specialist. I mean, what's to say about that? It does prove some of the surface level things

00:06:57.560 about what was said back then. It also shows Epstein's ironclad ties to Israel, doing literal

00:07:03.640 work on behalf of the Israeli government and security arrangements. He had top spies living

00:07:09.120 with him, the head of former IDF intelligence and former prime minister Ehud Barak with him.

00:07:13.700 He wire transferred money to Israeli spies. He worked on marketing a energy project called the

00:07:20.300 leviathan field to the west of haifa all these different angles show epstein's deep connections

00:07:25.640 to this criminal underbelly that's really transnational so they smeared us for conspiracy

00:07:30.880 theories regarding that just as they did for saying hey it's not going to be two weeks to

00:07:35.880 slow the spread it's not going to be that you know you you're going to be able to get by with this

00:07:41.880 criminal government operating above you so that's how i see it you know as a man if you if you should

00:07:47.480 enjoy a penis from time to time they see fit to throw you an entire parade uh you get a whole

00:07:52.900 month you know what i mean you go to any any big city i'm just saying can we get a parade

00:07:57.660 i'm not asking for a whole month i think that's a lot but just like february february is open

00:08:01.820 we could take february i don't know who had it before but i'm just saying if we could have a

00:08:05.700 parade where we we just did what once uh you know one day out of the year you show up and there's

00:08:12.980 like a giant frazzle drip float right where it's an inflated hillary clinton she's got like a kid's

00:08:17.960 face over her face we don't need like the celebration and the vindication i feel like

00:08:22.260 is part of this weird trap right like conspiracy pride parades is what you're that's what i'm

00:08:26.820 saying yeah i mean it's pretty much the gay parade but oh yeah okay so it's a redundancy i get it but

00:08:32.000 i don't know i just think uh uh enjoying same-sex interloping gets you a whole parade why can't being

00:08:38.820 right consistently gets you afraid all right dave so you've been looking at this stuff and it's

00:08:43.980 it is it's it's kind of like i i get tentative when i'm uh touching on like the deeper conspiracy

00:08:49.180 with people who are like really really know their shit about politics because a lot of them like to

00:08:53.780 look at the nuts and bolts of the politics and you need those guys like like we had on uh dave

00:08:57.900 smith and we for some reason decided it's a good idea to have a conversation about god like what

00:09:02.920 is god that got clunky it got clunky um because he wasn't willing it was like it was i don't know

00:09:09.380 a year or two years ago he wasn't willing to like kind of go into the crazy waters with us at that

00:09:13.140 time and he he was just coming off the back of like some sort of a debate with uh andrew wilson

00:09:17.220 and i think he was looking out for gotcha moments and we weren't trying to we weren't trying to

00:09:22.060 create those but he was he was on edge so it was a little bit difficult uh so yeah so like i try to

00:09:26.120 like walk that line but like you've obviously been in and you've been seeing this stuff for a long

00:09:30.320 time why do you think why do you think you're seeing it now and not just seeing it but why do

00:09:35.340 you think the entire world is seeing this right now because it seems too obvious yeah man great

00:09:41.520 question i think it really is mostly a product of the rise of independent media where now people's

00:09:47.020 information sources aren't just filtered through like you know a few big newspapers and then a few

00:09:52.540 cable conglomerates we actually do have dissenting voices i'm some of it's co-opted don't get me

00:09:58.580 wrong the fbi reassigned dan bongino back into that space for a reason let's just be real but

00:10:05.060 at the same time we are having new voices that are critical of this debacle this foreign policy

00:10:11.760 that always is israel first it's always globalist oriented it's always based on empire building you

00:10:17.940 know the things that we were smeared again for being called lunatics before is becoming more

00:10:22.480 and more apparent especially when you see that this propaganda slot being used to support it

00:10:27.580 that somehow this is in our interest it is a regime change it isn't a regime change it was

00:10:32.960 for the sake of israel it wasn't for the sake of israel you know we've been at war for 47 years

00:10:37.700 we had to take out their nuclear program but we we destroyed it back in the summer but now we still

00:10:43.040 had to prevent them from acquiring a nuke all these stupid things they're so contradictory it

00:10:47.580 doesn't even match the coherency of like the george w bush era neocon propaganda that's just

00:10:53.300 war, but you see it in the Epstein scandal. This was a democratic hoax. We had to pay attention

00:10:57.880 to flooding in Texas. You know, you're not my real supporter. If you want answers here,

00:11:02.480 we get the same obfuscations that are being exposed more than ever, I think generally because

00:11:07.840 of the rise of the independent media. But it's still so I agree in a sense that there is an

00:11:13.420 independent media that is shining a brighter light on these things. But the mistakes of these

00:11:18.840 countries to be so obviously like it's just blatant in their propaganda like i don't know

00:11:24.420 meeting with tim pool under chatham house rules and then having it been like if you wanted to do

00:11:30.280 that couldn't you do that in the secrecy of the night but like no this is in the news it's reported

00:11:34.340 on and everyone is looking at it and going hey what the fuck are you doing over there it just

00:11:38.640 seems like we're supposed like they want us to see so that way the narrative could there was a

00:11:44.000 time and point where like i'll just kind of go back where i actually put up a short that i found

00:11:49.080 of uh dave and rob they're like i don't understand what uh top's problem is with the jews because

00:11:54.280 i've been talking about this stuff for a long time and i've been using hard comedy and it can get

00:11:57.680 like a little messy but what i'm talking about is israel i'm talking about the government of israel

00:12:02.260 and like people weren't getting it people weren't getting it a while back now if you don't get it

00:12:10.600 i don't know what's wrong with you because it's so right in your face like even you know that's

00:12:14.440 the thing it doesn't seem like it's necessarily people have gotten smarter as much as it's uh

00:12:19.480 the the display yeah it's like now we're supposed to move in that direction it's almost like well

00:12:25.720 here's an example of it benjamin netanyahu february 28th this is uh what the the day after

00:12:31.420 or the day of that we um that trump announces and he he goes uh he you know this he just posted so

00:12:38.540 anybody who's thinking like oh this isn't the case this isn't for israel yada yada yada he goes

00:12:43.200 uh good week my brothers and sisters citizens of israel this morning israel and the united states

00:12:48.100 set out a joint operation to remove the existential threat to israel from the ayatollah's regime in

00:12:53.960 iran so specifically he's saying we talked about this on a previous show a joint operation to

00:12:58.660 remove the existential threat to who to israel so in other words the regime ayatollah's regime

00:13:08.080 is an existential threat to israel and therefore we've attacked that's that's that's what he's

00:13:12.860 saying out the open uh right there on twitter on february 28th it's not even a lie like at least

00:13:18.140 the george w bush uh administration had some like fun lies yeah yeah it was full of lies but they

00:13:23.980 stuck to script they said weapons of mass destruction he gassed his own people he might

00:13:28.760 share the the bomb with a terrorist group to attack us now it's like everything they're throwing out

00:13:33.740 it's just spaghetti thrown against the wall and hope that it sticks. But then the next Trump

00:13:38.020 administration official that speaks next kind of contradicts part of that. So yeah, I think it's

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00:14:32.020 publish it yeah it's an interesting time and it's an exciting time I mean you know earlier I said

00:14:37.760 that um or we mentioned that I look at these things as theater and I had an interesting little

00:14:42.060 prophetic bit that I put on um on Twitter and I wonder your thoughts on this so I was saying

00:14:47.700 back on uh the 31st I think it was the 31st of of um January excuse the conversation because

00:14:54.200 we're gonna we'll drag it into crazy town but i do want to know a lot yeah i want to i want to

00:14:59.060 understand the inner workings of this but i want to give him some framework about where our psychotic

00:15:04.540 or at least my psychotic suspicions lie um and it was after the release of the doj files and i said

00:15:10.840 i'm looking out for a number of things three things in particular coming next um and i tweeted

00:15:16.800 it would be either the economic collapse the collapse of the dollar uh iran versus israel or

00:15:23.380 um uh ufo disclosure and it turns out all three of those things are are on the table now

00:15:29.560 less than a month later uh and the reason that i thought that is because i imagined

00:15:34.300 some time ago that this whole thing is going to function like a script whether it's like

00:15:39.720 agenda 2030 or whatever people are comfortable with um it's part of an elongated plan and that

00:15:45.240 these things the files themselves the epstein files they serve as a plot device and they would

00:15:50.580 release these when they're ready for the next thing. And ever since then, we've been thrust

00:15:54.920 into complete chaos. And I think it's going to be sort of an order out of chaos situation. But I

00:15:59.100 think that chaos might go a little bit further than people might have imagined. And so I don't

00:16:04.540 know. I mean, this seems like it's been something I didn't make a prophetic claim. I don't have

00:16:10.520 clairvoyancy. It all seemed very obvious to me that these were things that were positioned to

00:16:15.840 happen in particular this uh this issue with iran does this strike you as something that was

00:16:22.000 long in in the wings in waiting or is this something that is genuinely uh you know

00:16:27.800 spontaneous because iran has crossed the line oh absolutely not i mean this has been in the

00:16:33.900 cards in terms of what the neocons what the devout rigid zinus have wanted since the 1990s

00:16:40.100 in what's known as the clean break memo and a lot of your audience might know about this but

00:16:44.460 Wesley Clark revealed when he walked into the Pentagon weeks after 9-11 that he had been shown plans that the United States wanted to do a regime change operation in seven countries in five years, and the only one that hasn't come to fruition yet is Iran, and it's the one that Netanyahu and even the Israeli left, like Ehud Barak and Ehud Omerit at times, have wanted to overthrow, and it is on our bankroll.

00:17:08.360 it's on our dime as they infest our political class, our political climate, and really rob us

00:17:14.600 of our sovereignty. So no, this is not new whatsoever. And a lot of people back in, you

00:17:19.380 know, a lot of Trump supporters back in the summer said, well, this is the off ramp. Trump took it.

00:17:23.880 He took the escape hatch. He proved that he's not a neocon. Well, but Miriam Adelson still gave him

00:17:29.740 $150 million in his last campaign. The Adelson's filled his pockets to the brim. He appointed

00:17:35.720 mike huckabee and marco rubio into his cabinet some of the most die-hard zionist neocons imaginable

00:17:41.940 so this is absolutely not new it seemed like a matter of time a lot of us talked about it for

00:17:46.900 many many years and we're smeared as if again we are coming up with anti-semitic conspiracy theories

00:17:52.060 israel doesn't control our forward policy we don't do forward policy on behalf of israel but

00:17:57.260 we're seeing that that's not the case we actually do that and by we i mean our criminal government

00:18:02.160 not me and you do you think we were coming up with anti-semitic conspiracy theories i mean that

00:18:07.080 was on purpose yeah that was just on purpose that's fun um but so do you think do you think

00:18:13.900 that uh why do you think that they're doing this do you think that it's just a a land a land play

00:18:19.300 like that you know we know they have eyes on the greater israel we know that uh maybe they want

00:18:24.140 things but then there's also like other religious uh ideas at play where we have the idea of the

00:18:29.200 goyim being thrown around to the masses now uh i maybe for the first time in history that people

00:18:33.960 are kind of not in history but in american history that they're understanding what yeah how they're

00:18:39.260 feeling about i would love to know like if you can record the number like how many boomers in

00:18:44.280 particular were you know got wind of this and we were like what's a goyim you know like for the

00:18:48.880 first time that enters their cultural site guys you you actually yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so do

00:18:54.740 you think the play is uh more about like what israel can get the land grab or is it about um

00:18:59.880 how much they can destroy or take because you know it just seems like they i don't know they

00:19:06.420 could they could do these things and still get what they want but there is like this nefarious

00:19:11.540 side where like our culture is being destroyed there is uh poison in the food in there i don't

00:19:16.520 know i mean you know you name it the conspiracy and then people point to a steen or whatever do

00:19:21.960 you ascribe to that? I think it's about territorial conquest and unrelated to the

00:19:28.060 territorial conquest, just hegemony in the region. This is what they see as kind of their last

00:19:33.540 roadblock to total regional domination in which they're the only country that even has, you know,

00:19:39.640 modern military weaponry to the extent that they do other than Iran. So they see the destruction

00:19:45.300 of Iran as a good thing, regardless of what kind of government follows, because we saw the same

00:19:50.760 model play out in Syria and the Syrian civil war, Operation Timber Sycamore, if you know about that,

00:19:56.220 that's where the CIA tried to overthrow Syria. And eventually it was overthrown, but at the behest

00:20:01.680 of the Turks and others that joined into that, siding with literal Al-Qaeda and ISIS above the

00:20:08.200 Alawite Shia that they wanted deposed. Not deposed because the United States, the United States was

00:20:13.920 ostensibly, at least for a time, engaged in war against Al-Qaeda, but you had the United States

00:20:19.480 dealing in duplicity to help them. So they didn't really care exactly what kind of government

00:20:24.900 emerged in Syria. It was just a destabilized, vulnerable regime. They hope the same thing

00:20:30.180 is true in Iran. And I do think it is mostly about territorial conquest. And ultimately,

00:20:35.340 they could push the U.S. aside and side more with the BRICS countries and China and India and

00:20:42.140 Russia that have all been kind of pushed together by U.S. foreign policy and really drive a wedge

00:20:47.560 between them and us eventually but i do think it just generally is about regional hegemony that

00:20:53.580 you know our warmongers won in the western hemisphere that's what they want there and

00:20:58.340 they're getting it at our cost at our expense through extortion via the irs so it does seem

00:21:04.160 like they're leveraging uh sort of evangelical zionist christians in the u.s there's like that

00:21:10.500 level of uh of biblical prophecy that they do lean on and play on and they they manipulate the

00:21:16.220 masses in america at least with that yeah it's just a i guess from your point of view you just

00:21:20.480 you think that that's just a useful idiot kind of well let's let's add to that before we uh answer

00:21:26.180 that question so somebody in the chat was talking about this before we talked about this uh in a

00:21:30.340 previous episode today um a complaint received by the military religious freedom foundation

00:21:35.380 alongside others from 40 different units across 30 installations the the complaint is that uh

00:21:41.260 well here let's read it this morning our commander opened up uh the combat readiness status status

00:21:46.200 briefing by urging us not to be afraid. And that what is happening with our combat operations in

00:21:52.020 Iran right now is all part of God's divine plan. And President Trump Trump rather has been anointed

00:21:58.400 by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark the return of Jesus Christ

00:22:05.180 to Earth. And this is actually something that was supposedly a request for help submitted,

00:22:11.540 and not retweeted by dissident media, right?

00:22:13.800 Yeah, dissident media.

00:22:14.660 And this comes from,

00:22:15.600 it looks like a group of about 15 different people,

00:22:18.400 Jewish, Christians, Muslims,

00:22:20.280 and some non-maybe secular characters.

00:22:23.860 But they're actually submitting this as a complaint,

00:22:26.780 saying, maybe this is too far,

00:22:29.760 this is inappropriate.

00:22:30.820 So it does seem that there is a huge element.

00:22:33.060 And now it's even in these briefings

00:22:35.500 to American soldiers

00:22:37.160 that this is a sanctioned war,

00:22:39.600 sanctioned by who?

00:22:40.240 sanctioned by God, who is anointed Trump and Trump is going to bring about the second coming of

00:22:45.900 Christ. It just seems like the foreign policy flavor of QAnon to me, but this is infecting a

00:22:52.780 lot of the evangelical populace in the United States. I hate to say it. I am an evangelical

00:22:57.860 because all that means is spreading the good word of Jesus Christ, which I ascribe to and I believe

00:23:03.180 in. But at the same time, a lot of it is caught up in this Christian Zionism that's based on a

00:23:08.120 perverted interpretation that didn't even emerge until 1800 years after Christianity was formed,

00:23:14.140 when you had people like Darby selling lies about dispensationalism and this special

00:23:19.180 role for the Jews. And you have a lot of, you know, Protestant evangelicals that literally

00:23:23.760 believe like clearing off the temple mount and then building a third temple is a way to, you

00:23:29.620 know, kind of hasten the second coming. There's no biblical basis for it. Paul disposes of the

00:23:36.420 idea of there being dispensationalism and a preference toward, you know, Israel and its

00:23:41.800 identity and its kingdom in Galatians chapters three and six, especially, but in more places

00:23:47.080 in the New Testament, the gospels for all. And many people won't want to hear that, but you know,

00:23:52.420 the Jews have turned their back on Christianity, not by accepting Jesus Christ. So I don't believe

00:23:58.040 in subsidizing any kind of religion or any kind of foreign policy on the basis of any ethnic group,

00:24:03.560 any religious group, and a lot of the nonsense they use to sell it is just based on

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00:24:55.440 to talk to yourself for an hour, you might as well publish it. Huh? That I would agree with

00:25:00.760 that, but there is something, um, that you're, you're touching on, which is this, this maybe

00:25:06.100 something we could talk about a little bit here. Um, is it a small part of the, the, the, the play

00:25:12.760 that's taking place or is this much larger of a component in your estimation? This, this, uh,

00:25:18.280 attempt to fulfill prophecy or, or push prophecy along or force the hand of God, how big of a,

00:25:23.560 of a of a piece is this of the puzzle i i think that that that attempt to force like the second

00:25:29.520 coming is a smaller niche of like the protestant evangelical sect that just wants to support

00:25:34.920 israel at all costs because they believe that that's conducive somehow to your faith but you

00:25:39.440 have a subsection of that that believes it i think it's there i mean we saw it in you know

00:25:44.140 just in like the huckabee interview with tucker carlson recently at least bits and pieces of that

00:25:49.580 those kinds of ideas. But at the same time, I think the main driver is just to support this

00:25:54.180 country, just dump barrels of money into the coffers of a genocidal maniac and his regime

00:25:59.800 at cost to the United States. So I think it's a small subsection of that, but they're erratic

00:26:07.380 now, man, because people, especially on the right, younger people are noticing this. That's why

00:26:11.680 they're making major plays to buy out Paramount and TikTok. And now Larry freaking Ellison's

00:26:16.840 trying to buy out CNN in a mass conglomerate strategy. And what this is, it's just in line

00:26:22.700 with what Netanyahu pledged was the eighth front in the Israeli war. That's a front where the

00:26:28.680 adversary is you and me. It's the American public that he said, we have to wage an information

00:26:33.880 battle. I'm paraphrasing from that meeting, but he literally said in his own words, your audience

00:26:38.540 can look at this if they don't believe me. He said, weapons of war evolve throughout time.

00:26:42.680 We have to adapt to the new weapons. And it is an information battle. That's why they want to buy out whatever semblance of media conglomerate in the corporate news, although it's dying, to use as weaponry against us to support this. So that's where I think it is.

00:26:57.740 it's yes and you know it's it's thrown us for a loop as well because like we're looking at it

00:27:03.240 through like this uh biblical lens of like maybe we're at the end times and the only reason i'm

00:27:08.200 looking at it that way is because of how quickly and erratically they're moving now like they have

00:27:12.920 a goal in mind clear it's going to be to destabilize these regions and and expand their

00:27:18.460 territories but it seems like their goal has to get done by a certain point otherwise you could

00:27:24.220 it's been a long time that they've been doing this. I mean, we spent 20 years in just Afghanistan.

00:27:28.960 So like, that's like a kind of a long play. And then in the last three, it's just been

00:27:34.300 breakneck speed into insanity. And I'm trying to understand why, like short of biblical prophecy.

00:27:40.420 I think I know why top. And that's an incredible observation. I think that's a totally true

00:27:45.660 observation. And here is why, in my estimation, that they see just in terms of every poll,

00:27:51.340 You know, some of these people are Zionists and they're acting against our interests, but they're not unprivied to these polls that are showing that they're just losing the confidence of the American people really for the first time, especially younger people.

00:28:04.780 It's very generational, not just that, but even people on the right are peeling off to this.

00:28:09.760 When in the past you just saw aberrations like Ron Paul and Sam Francis and Pat Buchanan do that.

00:28:15.540 they have a limited time constraint now top they only see like their window of opportunity the door

00:28:22.040 at the end of that hallway closing gradually gradually gradually unless they accomplish this

00:28:27.080 right now when they still have you know conquered our political class and they still have that

00:28:32.420 influence that I do think will wane over time you know I think it will be a follower to where the

00:28:38.520 culture is moving on this but in 10 years I wouldn't be surprised if actually one or of the

00:28:43.800 two or both of the parties will nominate candidates that say i don't believe in any aid to israel and

00:28:49.140 i never thought that i would see that in my lifetime but i think that's probable i had tweeted

00:28:54.440 out and not that i'm a fan of the guy i think he's i think he's kind of dangerous in a lot of

00:28:58.900 ways but i said you know nick fuentes will be president if you continue doing this that's the

00:29:03.000 way that if you continue doing this yeah if you if you guys want that and i don't think that's

00:29:06.600 the right direction for the country well that's actually what i would because this is where i

00:29:10.380 wanted to go anyway can i ask him one question um just to like put some uh weight behind the

00:29:16.120 statement because you mentioned uh all of our political candidates beside you know like a

00:29:20.940 ron paul or maybe a thomas massey or rand paul um how much how much veracity would you put behind

00:29:28.160 this because i i'll throw this around and i'll say our our entire government system is brought

00:29:33.480 and paid for by israel it's pretty clear when you look at the apac money and it's pretty clear when

00:29:37.200 you look at how they behave toward uh these donors and lobbyists that are asking them to do things

00:29:42.860 because otherwise their their their actions are contradictory to like the benefit of the united

00:29:47.960 states as a whole but i don't make great points because i'm stupid how would you bring this home

00:29:53.500 for an audience of people who go i don't really see i don't understand how they're controlled or

00:29:58.940 like if at all that's a great question yeah so what i'd say is first of all you're not freaking

00:30:03.880 stupid dude you're thinking on a wavelength way above the general populace here but what i would

00:30:08.680 say is just demonstrate this based on the wars that the u.s fought sure you can say ukraine i

00:30:14.280 know that has ties into the rothschilds and some of these like very ardent zionist and globalist

00:30:19.420 forces but at the same time look at outside of that what wars that the united states has

00:30:24.280 participated you can make that linkage but i think it's more apparent in say libya and syria and

00:30:29.780 Somalia and Iraq, these countries that were on that clean break memo. And you were right to point

00:30:35.460 out AIPAC, it gets a special carve out within our own government in terms of a lobby that doesn't

00:30:40.340 have to register under Congress as a foreign lobby, like every other group does. JFK tried to

00:30:46.340 stop that in the 60s. Look at what happened to him. But I would demonstrate it by saying, just

00:30:50.780 look at their actions. Don't look at what they say. Look at how our foreign policy manifests.

00:30:55.200 and it always seems to manifest to side with this particular country. Whether or not you like that

00:31:00.960 country, it's pretty apparent. And AIPAC, the things that the Zionists will always point out,

00:31:05.260 I want to smash this thing that the Zionists always say about that, is they'll say and come

00:31:10.440 back with, well, if you look at the national lobbies, the money that flows through AIPAC

00:31:14.460 is actually a really small fraction. And if you look at it in that limited capacity, it's right.

00:31:20.180 But here's what AIPAC does that a lot of people don't point out, is it specializes in maintaining

00:31:25.040 donor records of large single issue donors like the Larry Summers, like the Bill Ackmans, like the

00:31:32.420 Larry Ellisons, like all these very ardent billionaire Zionists. They maintain contact

00:31:38.700 with those people and say, hey, make personal donations to these candidates. They're totally

00:31:43.240 in line with Israel's views. And then that conceptualizes really the grand overarching

00:31:48.660 control that they have. So it's a hard question to answer, but that's where I'd start. Just look

00:31:54.040 at the foreign policy how it manifests and which countries favor it always seems to manifest in

00:31:59.200 that's crazy that that means that like that a pack tracker which does a pretty good job even

00:32:03.440 though i think that person is like a kind of a liberal or like blue-haired liberal does a good

00:32:07.720 job so you're saying it doesn't even scratch the surface of what some of these candidates and

00:32:11.400 government officials are actually receiving a hundred percent it's just the tip of the iceberg

00:32:16.340 if it's even that i mean that's just a small percentage of the dollars that flow through

00:32:21.200 these Zionist interests and into the coffers of our elected officials and our bureaucracy,

00:32:26.120 by the way, that sides with them because it's also conducive to the military industrial complex

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00:33:17.300 talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it well that's the that's the elected

00:33:21.980 officials right and bankers and military industrial complex what about uh um influencers what do you

00:33:28.600 what are your thoughts on that i mean how how prevalent is that really i know within this

00:33:31.760 community we love to point at each other and accuse each other of receiving seven thousand

00:33:35.860 dollars which is it's a funny bit it's a joke and i know that it's obviously advantageous to control

00:33:41.540 thought leaders in in communities and and you know that's that's not lost on me but sometimes i go

00:33:46.880 back and forth on how impactful that actually is um sometimes i found myself speculating as to

00:33:53.580 whether or not you know we just use fed um we'll use that language this person's a fed that person's

00:33:57.840 a fed and it doesn't really always mean federal agent but it was fun when it was just in the

00:34:01.620 libertarian sphere and we were pointing like you're a fed you're a fed and you know even though

00:34:05.920 it's like that he might be but the consequences were pretty low right but oftentimes not anymore

00:34:10.560 oftentimes you'll meet a person and you'll go oh no i think i was wrong about that this is just a

00:34:14.420 regular person who through the lens of social media and their platform looks one way but in

00:34:19.240 real life this is just you know another schmuck like myself how prevalent is that really in your

00:34:23.720 opinion oh man i love this question because i've always thought it's kind of lazy just to like

00:34:30.180 label someone a fed and just move on it's almost like the establishment it's the dissident flavor

00:34:36.000 of doing what the establishment doesn't just say you know you shouldn't listen to him he's just an

00:34:40.740 extremist he's just a radical he's just today you know whatever they use to try to destroy you on

00:34:45.460 that day this is a way that dissidents don't have to actually argue on the merits of someone's

00:34:50.300 argument and can just dismiss a person i'm not saying that feds don't exist i do think feds

00:34:55.300 exist i think they infect you know political factions and they do try to do the bidding of

00:35:00.240 the regime whether it's just you know sometimes surveillance whether it's actually a psyop um i

00:35:06.320 think they exist but i also think it's really really lazy to just say fed and just move on as

00:35:11.640 if that's your get out of jail free card you no longer have to make an argument that's what we

00:35:16.600 would smear like the corporate media for doing when they called us extremist it's like yeah we

00:35:21.100 should smear them for that but we should have a counter argument about why they're retarded

00:35:25.120 right yeah so i think dissidents do overuse that a lot actually i think that nowadays what's what's

00:35:30.760 more likely i think a paid fed is far and few in between what's more likely is you uh toting about

00:35:35.860 a narrative that you don't understand its origins you don't know where it came from maybe uh it it's

00:35:41.660 designed in such a way that when you echo its sentiments you end up getting a disproportionate

00:35:46.040 amount of followers or here's a positive reinforcement a good for instance is uh we

00:35:50.620 we just had like a big argument with some guy that's a fake archaeologist and he is toting a

00:35:56.260 government narrative and came after us to uh debate and embarrass and sink us i guess that's

00:36:03.100 what people think but we're uncancellable and i want to call him a fed but i also see the

00:36:09.580 reasonings for him to uh back this narrative and there are many like but one of them being is like

00:36:14.120 well two of them i guess his entire fan base kind of likes this they they want to swing this way

00:36:19.820 this like zionist flavor which is audience capture is is a real thing it's hard he's written a book

00:36:25.420 before where it backs that that narrative so he has to defend the claim on the other hand he's

00:36:30.880 standing alongside of people who are actual government actors yeah like lou alessandro who

00:36:35.520 is a government actor so i'm like it's very slippery it's tricky and to call him a fed

00:36:40.260 is incorrect because most likely not well the best asset is an unpaid asset who's unaware

00:36:46.140 right you don't want somebody to be aware of the narrative that they're pushing or the agenda that

00:36:51.720 they're associated with uh it would be best for the yeah i think there's a lot of unknowing dupes

00:36:57.340 that fall into the hands of feds and do their bidding like without knowing that but you know

00:37:02.640 it's really kind of like a pied piper thing so i think that's right i i just hear the term just

00:37:07.300 applied to just about everyone and it's like they're not all feds like some of them might be

00:37:12.100 feds. But if you're going to call Tucker and Candace and Fuentes and on the other side, Ben

00:37:17.000 Shapiro and frickin like, like all these people are not fed. Some of them probably are. And some

00:37:22.680 of them actually probably run these schemes to argue with each other. But I just don't think

00:37:26.840 it's all of them. I just I can't think that. And again, if you're not countering their arguments,

00:37:31.320 I just think it's like the lazy, dissident way to dismiss someone without presenting your ideas.

00:37:37.160 right yeah it's we we ran into that a little bit in the it's kind of why i i stepped away from the

00:37:42.640 libertarian party in a in a bigger in a big way because there were there's a lot of like libertarian

00:37:48.440 principles where i'm like especially during covid when covid kind of exposed uh some of this real

00:37:53.860 harsh tyranny the government let its teeth out and i'm arguing with libertarians who are in a way i

00:37:59.620 understand what they're doing but i'm like hey you don't understand like they have they have their

00:38:03.380 boot on our throat and in order to undo this like you kind of have to use the government to undo

00:38:09.000 like there are you know simple aspects like that and i'm like at some point i'm like i feel like

00:38:13.540 you guys have been infiltrated so thoroughly that you are not just accepting the tyranny

00:38:19.680 but you're arguing in favor of it because you're against tyranny it was very confusing and i'm like

00:38:24.940 i just kind of get the fuck away from you guys because i'm gonna go crazy here oh yeah i mean

00:38:29.280 even people at the like the Cato Institute, like Ilya Soman wrote articles that said vaccine

00:38:35.140 mandates are libertarian. And that hasn't aged well at all. I mean, we look back and laugh at

00:38:40.460 that. But there was a subsection of libertarianism arguing that and I hate to think that. But that

00:38:46.420 is the grasp and association that a lot of people came across and said, Oh, that's a libertarian

00:38:51.700 belief. But, you know, it seems to pervert the type of libertarianism that the Mises Institute

00:38:56.840 that the rothbardians wanted to have so i mean at what point do we just defend this terminology

00:39:03.180 to me it's just like defending the ideas and the principles are more important than defending like

00:39:08.380 a grand philosophy because people make associations that wouldn't necessarily represent what i think

00:39:14.220 if that makes sense top yeah i like tom woods um he'll go to war for the world with the word

00:39:20.140 libertarian and i'm just like man tom just like it's not worth it let him have it let him have

00:39:25.240 it man and make up another word or something but like it these are these are all great dudes like

00:39:29.980 yeah dice thinks that too and i'm i'm good friends with both tom woods and jeff dice

00:39:35.240 um def jeff is on the other side of that i don't care about defending the lingo

00:39:39.400 tom might but then my retort sometimes if i'm to be a curmudgeon like an autistic curmudgeon

00:39:44.760 which i am i guess at times i would say well what about capitalism would you no longer

00:39:49.260 ascribe to being a capitalist because marx used that as a pejorative he described it in a way

00:39:54.360 that supports like corporate welfare and stuff like that and it's like at some point we have to

00:39:59.340 use words that others understand but it is a balance of using words that have been tarnished

00:40:03.880 so much by charlatans too so this isn't an easy topic to try to navigate through all the time

00:40:09.400 yeah we get caught up on words with with people it's very difficult you find that in in sort of a

00:40:16.340 cultural subversion um that attacking the definition of a word yeah redefining things

00:40:22.260 is a really great place to start if you can disrupt the fundamentals that keep it from

00:40:27.780 being able to have an effective conversation around it right so um you know just the idea

00:40:33.120 to use a great example is like what is a woman it stops the whole conversation if you can't even

00:40:38.580 define the fundamentals of what you're talking about then it really slows things that's a great

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00:41:30.420 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it um i want to bring it back to something

00:41:35.400 that we talked about before with um the idea of like the younger generations kind of waking up to

00:41:41.940 you know uh the government of israel's involvement with with our own and um and i wonder as we're

00:41:49.700 speeding towards this thing top that you highlighted where it's like it seems like

00:41:52.920 there's a goal and they're coming to it because they're getting really sloppy and they're moving

00:41:56.220 really fast is getting thinner and they got to get through the door well it's like a race

00:42:00.060 it's a race that's exactly what we're seeing play out man i think yeah i and i would say so and i

00:42:05.820 would say you know if the goal was to eliminate israel's enemies in the middle east i think it

00:42:10.120 goes beyond that to like really crazy places but a place that everybody can grasp is if iran is

00:42:15.040 really the last one of these what was it seven countries we talked about earlier yeah yeah you

00:42:19.640 know that is a great goal that you could suspect is you know what they're racing towards i think

00:42:24.260 they did a good job they did a great job how do you take listen i don't want to sound like a neocon

00:42:28.680 here or anything but i'm like damn we we took out the president of venezuela i mean efficacy and

00:42:33.460 iran it's like these guys are getting really good at moving and shaking dude so so um then the race

00:42:40.020 you might be able to paint it as a you know is i mean iran's demise versus the awareness

00:42:47.200 of the american public to realize what's happening and say no it kind of makes me question like okay

00:42:55.940 okay you get all that you get it you got it now but these people are real mad they're like yeah

00:43:00.600 even if it doesn't even if they get iran what if a year from now everyone's like wait a second no

00:43:06.900 we know what we saw and and is that too little too late does it matter does israel you know

00:43:12.160 rise to some unstoppable superpower because now all their enemies are gone and and they have you

00:43:17.740 know from the whatever it is the river to the sea however the expression goes um or do we do we see

00:43:23.740 that really soon what what are your thoughts on that dave as far as the race between public

00:43:28.640 awareness is it enough soon enough or is it too little too late well that's a tough question it

00:43:35.540 depends on what you mean by soon enough. Now, do I think that this will produce anti-Israel

00:43:41.840 presidential candidates in 2028? I don't think that. I think that'd be a little bit optimistic

00:43:46.560 from our vantage point on this. But at the same time, if you're asking about presidential

00:43:50.660 candidates, like I alluded to earlier, 10 years from now, I think that might work. Regardless of

00:43:55.900 the political system, the culture will change. And to some extent, I believe in what Breitbart

00:44:00.500 said when politics is a fast follower or a downstream effect of what you're seeing in

00:44:05.920 the culture. Now, I think that what we know from history, though, is not that Israel can

00:44:11.180 necessarily, even though we have overthrown a lot of regimes at their behest and most recently

00:44:17.300 Iran, they might have to deal with future adversaries because this behavior in the region

00:44:22.280 is not just going to win them more friends, even though right now they see Iran as kind of the

00:44:28.200 final domino to fall in the clean break strategy. Like the Turks don't exactly like Israel that much,

00:44:35.160 by the way. And like the Saudis in Jordan innately would not like Israel very much

00:44:39.920 unless the U.S. literally paid them off just not to go to war with Israel. You could see the Saudis

00:44:45.220 turn. I know that the BRICS countries want them in their alliance and they were entertaining a

00:44:50.680 membership for some time. You could see these dynamic shift just as they shifted against the

00:44:55.060 United States. Two examples in Afghanistan, the United States funded the Mujahideen in Afghanistan

00:45:01.040 when the Soviets invaded through BCCI, a criminal bank. And, you know, through Pakistan's ISI and

00:45:07.800 the CIA, they funded them with weaponry. Well, then you see the emergence of the Taliban and

00:45:12.240 Al Qaeda within the country funding attacks against us. And then you see the United States

00:45:16.980 fund Iraq in the Iraq Iran war at times funding both sides of that conflict. But both countries

00:45:23.680 then eventually became the enemies ostensibly of the United States. So I think Israel might see

00:45:29.040 that too. So if it's too little, too late, I don't know. I see things shifting in a generally

00:45:34.340 better direction than they've ever shifted before on the right. That's what I'll say. It's a white

00:45:38.940 pill to me, that and the rise of the independent media. But whether it's too late, I don't know.

00:45:43.660 I mean, we're $39 trillion in debt, inflation's through the roof. Seems like economic meltdown

00:45:49.160 is just like a preordained destiny to some extent but i do think at least people are awakening to

00:45:55.120 this more than they used to and that's at least moving in a better direction does that make sense

00:45:59.460 it's a matter of perspective too really right i mean too late for us is one thing too late for

00:46:04.620 iran is another thing i agree i agree with everything you just said it's just now that

00:46:09.120 there's the crazy card that uh we deal with on the show and it's like while all this dumb shit

00:46:14.120 is happening we have donald trump going you know what man i might just disclose aliens and

00:46:18.740 it's not you know the alien stuff is fun right um well something that but we know it exists like we

00:46:24.380 we know that the craft the technology exists and if we're talking about this kind of like economic

00:46:29.140 calamity you don't you don't crash something unless you have what's ready to be built in its

00:46:35.540 place that's like a pete quinones kind of things like start building what you want to see in its

00:46:39.480 place and i'm like that's a great idea although i don't think we have the means to do it but uh

00:46:44.460 who does have the means is the government so if they have this tech that's like ready to be

00:46:48.660 released we use a little bit of it like the discombobulator in venezuela we have this great

00:46:53.020 success great success great success they were discombobulated shitting from their butts

00:46:57.920 we we have this ready to roll out like sometimes i start to think like man are they gonna base an

00:47:04.140 entirely new what like just scrap this economy everything you have fuck you roll out zero point

00:47:10.160 technology new stuff yeah all new stuff and like just start moving as if not because that's how

00:47:15.220 they they do with currencies yeah or economies it doesn't kind of like slowly go away it's like

00:47:20.980 you guys were using the flower and like not anymore and now we're using this everyone holding

00:47:25.340 that you're beat and we're doing the new thing and i'm looking at that and i'm saying that's a

00:47:31.460 very good possibility a very likely possibility that we're ready to move on to some crazy new

00:47:35.980 technology that will really shift the dynamics of well let's give dave some some extra crazy for

00:47:40.940 that which is it's of the same flavor it's of the same flavor i don't know if you're aware of it

00:47:45.400 dave uh there's a there's a gentleman named uh chris bledsoe and he's a uh long time crazy well

00:47:50.400 yeah he's a long time oh yeah the bills and and patriots quarterback yeah no no no not that guy

00:47:55.980 he's different dude uh this is a long time uh abductee victim right he's you know uh in tight

00:48:02.700 with the phenomenon uaps ufos you name it and he's been saying to his credit for a really long

00:48:08.080 time since like 2006 uh or 2000 i'm sorry 2016 that um you know he was abducted in some entity

00:48:15.800 that identifies itself as the lady it's take it all with a grain of salt but gives him a prophecy

00:48:20.440 and that prophecy is that there's going to be is a multitude of there it goes a multitude of

00:48:24.400 prophecies that he is uh the recipient of but one of them in particular is about a coming war with

00:48:29.000 iran and israel which is not profound right we've kind of seen that coming for a long time

00:48:33.480 um but that this war would get to a point where it would uh be on the edge of nuclear exchange

00:48:41.320 and that it would be stopped what we would see is orbs rising up out of the ocean now

00:48:47.220 i want to frame this not even necessarily in the sense of something non-human right maybe

00:48:54.020 it could be framed as what what top is talking about these technologies that they may or may not

00:49:00.400 have that either they reverse engineered or it's just in the in the sense that the government is

00:49:05.380 always what's the expression uh 10 to 15 years ahead of 70 yeah maybe that that might be more

00:49:11.120 app um ahead of us ahead of the public in their advancements in technology and the idea that they

00:49:16.940 would obfuscate a thing from us and create a whole scenario or at least take advantage take advantage

00:49:22.720 of an organic unfolding scenario uh to then introduced you know these these technologies

00:49:29.160 or something like this so this is what he's saying now this guy's going on a kind of a little bit of a

00:49:33.680 warm-up victory lap where he's saying hey we pointed to this as early as 2016 if you're in

00:49:40.100 the uap space all these videos are hitting the internet in a time where none of it's verifiable

00:49:45.460 because ai is crazy um of orbs coming up out of the ocean if you look at disclosure uh we were

00:49:52.460 just reading earlier is a military intelligence personnel saying that he has uh on document over

00:49:59.020 500 instances i believe of times over the last 70 years where there was going to be an exchange

00:50:06.500 some of like the nuclear variety where it was allegedly thwarted by ufos and and if you pay

00:50:13.240 attention to that narrative at all um that's not new there are people in all these documentaries

00:50:18.340 that come out and go i'm of you know in naval intelligence for 30 years and we witnessed you

00:50:24.680 know this ufa ufo unidentified flying out uap you name it come along and disarm a nuclear warhead

00:50:31.800 this is part of the cultural zeitgeist if you're paying attention to that thing so i think to your

00:50:36.380 point top yeah maybe maybe even if this isn't um aliens or whatever you want to call them

00:50:42.380 um this could well be technology that the government has and this could all be pointing

00:50:48.280 to one big not just a regime change uh but a you know a currency change uh you know a big

00:50:56.740 techno technological revolution you name it i think maybe all those things are on the table

00:51:01.020 yeah here's what i say so i i'm not proficient in the uaps the ufo stuff i do think the timing

00:51:07.840 of unveiling that through, who is it? Paulina Luna at the time when the Epstein files are at

00:51:14.800 the top of people's minds is not necessarily coincidental, but what I will say is it's not

00:51:19.360 even conspiratorial to think that there'll be some, you know, the great, it's the great reset,

00:51:23.900 right? You know, they're on, on the record talking about this, the change of kind of financial

00:51:28.700 dominance throughout the world. You see it playing out in a way where Bricks hasn't done this yet,

00:51:33.640 But there is a lot of people that want bricks to drive to adopt like a new currency. Right.

00:51:38.620 And if they do that and allow that to become the new world's reserve currency, that will be economically catastrophic to the United States.

00:51:46.180 So it's not even, I think, conspiracy where this plays out.

00:51:49.800 I think you're seeing people openly talking about it at globalist organizations like the Trilateral Commission and Council for Foreign Relations and the World Economic Forum, et cetera.

00:51:59.980 So I think that that is the design for many people to want to follow.

00:52:04.880 As far as technology that government is ahead of pace in developing, I don't know enough about that.

00:52:10.180 But what I will say is a possible counter argument is it seems like sometimes entrepreneurialism kind of speeds out technology before the government.

00:52:18.600 But then the government gets its talons in it and co-ops it.

00:52:21.800 Examples are like Uber and 3D printing and potentially like Bitcoin, depending on what you think about that.

00:52:27.400 is like i think it actually works in the other way where the government gets its hands in it

00:52:31.400 but after it's been produced by actual entrepreneurs so just some food for thought

00:52:35.880 i will say yeah so it's a misnomer to say that the government has produced the government doesn't

00:52:39.760 produce anything but they do co-opt and they do fund these people that are producing these things

00:52:44.700 so they're usually the first ones in and if they have their if they have their claws in it they

00:52:48.880 can make that proprietary for the government then you're under a government contract in a sense

00:52:53.060 were kind of like talking about the same thing but using different words yeah yeah it's like

00:52:57.780 the people that said you know palantir is a private company right but it's like no the cia

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00:53:53.420 you might as well publish it. So where do you think this is going, Dave? I mean,

00:53:59.060 given everything that we've talked about here, especially in regards to the military being

00:54:03.720 prepped for an ordained war that'll bring about the second coming, it seems like we're

00:54:09.720 definitively moving in this direction. In 2026, I mean, I don't know, is this a run-of-the-mill

00:54:15.780 slow war or we got all these all this footage the other day of missiles striking here and there

00:54:21.560 look like dubai and a number of other places um what is what's real anymore dude honestly you know

00:54:28.960 we got this video of uh tel aviv being hit i'm like i don't yeah i don't think it's real i saw

00:54:34.280 that like israel's it's illegal to film for most purposes the hitting of missiles on israeli

00:54:40.880 territory and they prevent that from law from being disseminated on the internet so it's hard

00:54:46.220 to know what exactly is real and not people repost videos from like you know 2016 sometimes

00:54:51.540 yeah as far as where it's headed i don't know all i can say is i think this regime change has so

00:54:57.400 many scenarios that could be just disastrous for the american public and i put it like this in some

00:55:02.880 of my videos let me say this and then you guys chime in i want to hear your thoughts it's it's

00:55:06.960 like the united states engaging in like the most risky parlay bet in vegas they possibly could

00:55:13.120 because here's what they want they want regime change without putting boots on the ground

00:55:17.200 they want regime change and hoping that the regime that you know steps in for the ayatollah

00:55:22.560 suddenly doesn't want to develop defensive ballistic missiles they want that same regime

00:55:27.780 not to develop a modern navy they want that same regime not to fund hezbollah and the houthis and

00:55:34.060 Hamas. You're taking all of these bets, like a string of six or seven bets that aren't even 50-50

00:55:40.000 bets. Some of them are like 90-10 bets going against the probability of, you know, that

00:55:45.520 happening. And you're stringing it together in a parlay bet that just seems like you're asking for

00:55:50.980 the world for it to come to be. So I think that this is a perilous action. And, you know, the only

00:55:56.220 worst scenario could be the dedication of boots on the ground, which would, you know, cost the

00:56:00.960 lives of u.s servicemen plunge us deeper into debt and destroy our country regardless of the

00:56:05.960 political ramifications to trump or the republicans or the democrats i don't care about that but trump

00:56:11.340 said that's not going to happen he said he wouldn't that we wouldn't do that i think he said

00:56:13.980 he's considering it oh both hegseth and trump refused to rule it out yesterday i haven't seen

00:56:19.200 what either of them have said about it today so you guys i don't know but well that would be an

00:56:24.280 unmitigated disaster but i agree like how else how else do you do the thing like it is kind of

00:56:29.540 like a hope yeah although i guess you could just say like hey we'll do this shit again if

00:56:34.140 if you don't do what we say but there's no there's no guarantee that we get what we that that's the

00:56:40.780 part that kind of confuses me and even like on israel's side like okay so you've destabilized

00:56:44.860 these countries now what like you kind of have to invade especially if you want to push back

00:56:50.400 borders or what is what the hell unless israel just wants them destabilized so they can't interfere

00:56:55.460 with whatever they're going to do i don't think it mostly is the destabilization i don't think

00:57:01.060 they particularly care what regime comes next as long as it's destabilized for israel's hegemony

00:57:07.920 for their territorial ambitions but at the same time they want to do that on the backs of u.s

00:57:13.300 servicemen and u.s money without putting the idf at risk at all so yeah that's exactly what it is

00:57:18.860 and top you just alluded to it right there i can't think of a historical example and i study

00:57:23.420 foreign policy really hardcore i'm not as knowledgeable as like scott horton and maybe

00:57:27.920 some other people that we would know but i i can't find an example where a regime change came to

00:57:33.060 fruition strictly from like air superiority milit uh air strikes and not boots on the ground aiding

00:57:39.800 rebel groups internal to the country or like a mutiny within the country that just doesn't happen

00:57:44.820 so i don't know unless they're unless they're relying on yeah it's just it's impossible like

00:57:51.980 maybe some sort of MK ultra I mean you know where my mind is that and I'm I'm you know of the the

00:57:58.440 crazy variety so I I do think there's something going on with that whole um you know they're

00:58:04.040 going to do this it's the same thing with the drone incursion in New Jersey which seems to be

00:58:07.740 happening again I think they're going to at the bare minimum if you didn't want to entertain the

00:58:11.940 idea of something you know extra crazy outside of the human experience I would say that they're

00:58:17.020 going to uh do a show and dance to us they're gonna you know roll out these orbs or something

00:58:23.640 i think that that guy bled so um as much as i do think he's being misled i do think he genuinely

00:58:29.220 had an experience um but i think a lot of these experiences are in alignment with but to what end

00:58:35.200 though so like what's the point well to to the end that uh i think we're at this place that you know

00:58:41.040 when alex jones says a new world order a consolidation of one world religion one

00:58:46.340 currency one government all these things it's going to be consolidated under this new um

00:58:51.540 revelation to people and and that revelation will be of the this variety so if this guy is right

00:58:58.140 which i think we may see these things come to pass but i think we're going to fundamentally

00:59:02.080 misunderstand their nature and they're not what what chris bledsoe says but i think we're going

00:59:05.960 to be showing something i think that's why i heard what you said dave earlier that it's interesting

00:59:11.820 at the time that the epstein files come out we're getting this ufo disclosure thing and it serves as

00:59:16.840 a distraction in other words right from these really damning uh you know yeah there's a vernacular

00:59:22.580 for this it's called flooding the zone right when people are talking about one thing it's flooding

00:59:27.200 the zone full of other stories other things that may be distractions from what really would be the

00:59:32.660 most damnable thing for the people to actually pay attention to. And I think that's likely with

00:59:37.540 the Epstein files, just because of how Trump behaved toward it. Like he was willing to sink

00:59:41.620 his entire presidency through 11 months of covering this up. I think that's the distraction and not

00:59:47.160 the other stuff. So, or I mean, I think that the other stuff is the distraction for that from the

00:59:51.540 Epstein files. That's a great, um, Occam's razor. You know, I can see that. And it is also worth

00:59:56.900 mentioning the last time we had this, um, you know, the meme of Epstein didn't kill himself

01:00:01.520 was the same time you know with the podesta files and everything that hillary clinton and podesta

01:00:05.820 came out and they rebranded and they they called these things uaps and they started this conversation

01:00:11.000 up and then we got covid and then we got covid so there's a lot of things that seem to to want

01:00:15.200 to detract uh from the public's attention being aimed at the epstein files but i i actually

01:00:20.740 specifically i mean there's a lot i don't know if it's true but uh they say that there are like

01:00:26.220 dates blocked out from what is it 1999 to 2001 is the biggest missing chunk of the epstein files

01:00:33.280 and take that for what you will but and there's some interesting stuff about 9-11 in there galane

01:00:38.280 maxwell talks about being on a shadow 9-11 commission this is not a conspiracy this is in

01:00:44.240 the emails take a look at it and whether she would want to be on it yeah she's asked and she's

01:00:48.900 politely declined she said no i did it i can't be on the commission

01:00:51.380 well you know i look at these things go ahead do you think that that's like so i mean they can show

01:01:00.820 us i i don't know george w bush is cutting a baby's feet with a scimitar and drinking the

01:01:05.160 blood and eating the guts oh that was uh bill clinton whatever that was one of the tip lines

01:01:09.700 yeah yeah if we're throwing out a lot of crazy shit but they're like the 9-11 stuff the these

01:01:14.480 people will go fucking berserk if we told them that you guys did this is like that's the one

01:01:18.860 thing that that's off the files i don't know even the dancing israeli stuff that's thoroughly

01:01:24.020 documented if you bring that up you're automatically just smeared even when like the fbi acknowledges

01:01:29.800 this right so yeah absolutely yeah well that's the thing about the and it gives me great pause

01:01:35.340 these files is that they seem to be as a longtime conspiracy theorist a vindication on every front

01:01:42.440 possible except for flat earth except for fat i'm very sorry to the flat earth guys out there

01:01:47.060 um but but otherwise it's it's a vindication of everything you ever suspected to have actually

01:01:53.980 been the case which i don't know man it's like when do we ever get that when do we ever get that

01:01:58.580 to me and and i just feel i have nothing to back this except for in my heart it feels like a plot

01:02:03.160 device because we don't get that sort of thing we we don't get it all handed to us and people go

01:02:09.080 well the doj was forced and i'm like i don't i don't i sincerely don't think that that's how it

01:02:14.260 They put everything on Epstein's shoulders.

01:02:16.740 They put it all on him, yeah.

01:02:18.180 Like, you know those in-app game purchases that you hate?

01:02:20.820 Epstein.

01:02:21.260 I'm like, you gotta be fucking kidding me.

01:02:23.420 Like the World of Warcraft money or whatever?

01:02:26.160 Is that what you're talking about?

01:02:27.800 Yeah, dude.

01:02:27.900 It's the biggest scam in the world.

01:02:29.620 It's probably the first conspiracy I ever introduced to my son

01:02:32.340 where I'm like, no, no, no, don't download that.

01:02:33.880 I know it says free, but it's not free.

01:02:37.240 All they're going to do is show you cool stuff that you could buy

01:02:39.540 and it's going to seem like a little bit of money,

01:02:40.880 but it's going to add up.

01:02:41.980 You're going to tell me that this guy did that shit too?

01:02:43.680 it's like i'm just having a hard time yeah like they have documents that say 10 co-conspirators

01:02:49.360 redacting all of them and then they want you to believe that they coincidentally only redacted

01:02:54.080 les wexner's name in that document but not all the other 4 000 mentions of them so you're exactly

01:02:59.680 right this is why i really think this scandal the epstein scandal will go down as a bigger scandal

01:03:05.120 than teapot dome watergate jfk probably combined because it involves more people of prominence

01:03:12.160 more files, more criminal networks, and they're hiding two to three million documents that aren't

01:03:19.160 even declassified yet. So the prospects of us getting that, maybe we'll get some of it like

01:03:25.280 the JFK files in like 60 years, but this is going to fester, man. This isn't going away.

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01:04:15.640 talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it well this is we're entering this time

01:04:20.920 we were talking about it with with the the war footage and everything and whether or not that's

01:04:24.720 even a thing that would be allowed to hit the internet you know coming out of israel but um

01:04:29.040 between the files muddying the waters and you might call it the fog of war you know i think

01:04:34.140 that's pretty apt given the circumstances but ai has reached rapidly this point where um

01:04:40.460 i'm having a hard time dude looking at i was scrolling earlier before the show and i was like

01:04:46.380 well that maybe that is a goat man traveling the hillside in scotland it looked a lot like a goat

01:04:51.280 man traveling the hillside in scotland and i i don't know what we are just given the timeline

01:04:56.680 the expedience with which ai is developing it might be safe to say that either we're there

01:05:03.000 right now or within the month we're going to reach a place where it's indiscernible not long ago

01:05:08.040 within the month yeah because not long ago i was saying prediction man i was saying three years

01:05:12.420 okay and then all of a sudden a couple of months later i reassessed the landscape and i went oh

01:05:16.880 god no tomorrow it might be like it might be not three years but like six months or something

01:05:21.920 that was maybe uh two months ago that i was saying that now i'm reassessing the landscape again and

01:05:27.840 i'm going no some of these things are getting past my radar so so what happens oh yeah you have

01:05:32.640 Dude, on Twitter, you have like videos of politicians talking that sometimes I can scrutinize it enough to be like, no, I think that's AI slot.

01:05:41.000 But sometimes, man, it walks that line where I'm not sure.

01:05:45.380 And this is becoming prevalent and it will be part of our future, whether we like it or not.

01:05:49.720 This is already there.

01:05:51.320 Well, what does that look like for a guy like you, Dave?

01:05:53.200 Because, you know, you're you're you're trying to analyze for us.

01:05:56.560 We report fake news.

01:05:57.700 Yeah, it's fine.

01:05:58.400 We have no problem doing that.

01:05:59.580 Views are through the roof.

01:06:00.580 Yeah, but you got to you got to report real shit.

01:06:02.640 earlier today we showed a video of joe biden posing as a as as a bunch of different characters

01:06:07.720 and we told people that it was real getting interviewed by uh mean gene ogerson yeah and it

01:06:13.060 was it was a great video number one uh and number two we told people was a real event and so um

01:06:18.120 you know you're sitting here trying to it's kind of this really remarkable time you're getting so

01:06:25.220 much information and so much of it is providing so much revelation but then it's like um i

01:06:32.620 don't know you might imagine it like uh like you know indiana jones when the when the wall is

01:06:38.120 coming down on the other side of the wall it's all of a sudden it lifted up and it was like the

01:06:42.620 truth is there and you start moving towards it and all of a sudden the walls start closing

01:06:46.020 and it's like as the walls come in and that that window gets smaller and smaller that those

01:06:51.860 surrounding walls that's all complete disinformation complete fake shit and if they can fake these

01:06:59.000 videos and they can fake images what about like emails emails with human error in the text and

01:07:07.880 and emails that show you a date and a time and a corresponding email address a sender and a

01:07:14.560 recipient and and the doj is releasing this but it's like if you can make all that other crap

01:07:20.180 you can make this this is this is nothing this is white background in text i you know and in in a

01:07:27.100 month dude i don't know where we're going to be but i don't know what to do about that that i don't

01:07:32.800 know what the hell is true anymore my devil's advocate response is first of all i totally agree

01:07:38.560 you're totally right that that will happen that is happening it seems like that's pretty easy

01:07:42.680 compared to some of the things that ai does today that that will happen but i'm kind of a techno

01:07:48.020 optimist compared to a lot of maybe my peers in the dissonant world because i think there's going

01:07:53.180 to be a consumer demand for AI fact-checking that will counter some of the false narratives.

01:07:58.760 They'll compare real videos of this situation unfolding with the AI video that corresponds

01:08:04.220 to it in some way and yield results much like community notes will. So I actually think there

01:08:09.080 could be a silver lining scenario here where citizens are given good information from reputable

01:08:16.240 AI that serves their interests. Now, to the extent that that would be perverted, that kind of AI and

01:08:21.140 twisted to like reinforce things that are wrong that's a threat too but i see this unfolding in

01:08:26.860 a possible way in which we actually will be able to sift through the nonsense with ai itself even

01:08:32.640 while there's dark ai that is you know running cover and doing falsities if that makes any sense

01:08:37.960 i'm not trying to actually no i mean that might actually be a good thing he's talking about a

01:08:41.340 free market solution but with that idea it kind of slows it would naturally slow down the news cycle

01:08:47.700 like after uh you know i don't maybe a couple maybe a couple of months of just insanity fake

01:08:53.040 shit fake shit fake shit by the time somebody develops something like this people might uh

01:08:57.860 learn to learn the behavior of like okay we have to wait a second we have to wait that would be

01:09:02.400 great yeah that would be real breaks yeah if people like us didn't immediately told you know

01:09:06.840 roll fake biden out dressed as a dragon ball z character in front of the audience and go it's

01:09:10.660 real it's what they deserve it is what they deserve well we do that we give the people what

01:09:13.900 they deserve but that is an interesting concept because um we watch the the the news cycle

01:09:19.220 shorten we know events happening so often and in that what it birthed is this rush to be the first

01:09:25.360 one and eventually what's going to happen is with so much fake information coming out person is not

01:09:31.740 going to have a career yeah because they're going to be the first asshole effectively who came out

01:09:36.240 and spread a thing you know with virality i would hope at least people would pick up on that and go

01:09:41.160 hey your post that you did no vetting on and we live in this place where it's really important

01:09:45.760 now more so than ever it was before now it's super important got you know 100 million views

01:09:50.980 so 100 million people got led astray by you who fell for ai slop and wanted to be first and i would

01:09:57.540 hope yeah maybe maybe we will um be more stringent in our discernment i don't i mean it's asking a

01:10:04.200 lot it's really not our style actually as i'm saying it i'm like that's not human beings we

01:10:09.080 want it now we want it fast and we want it to be highly addictive and to be honest too dude i think

01:10:14.500 that there's a part of the human experience the human impulse that actually isn't looking for

01:10:19.360 true information it's looking for narratives that suit their predefined interests and their

01:10:24.200 predefined philosophy and outlooks on the world right and i'm not saying that i'm you know not

01:10:29.700 privy to these impulses that sometimes like confirmation bias is a really powerful dynamic

01:10:35.200 on the human psyche, man. And people aren't necessarily looking for the truth. Some people

01:10:40.640 are from time to time and in various things, but a lot of people are just looking for confirmation

01:10:45.580 that they're right. I mean, that's sad, but that's true, I think.

01:10:49.600 So, I mean, yeah, I would agree with that. And that's mostly what we suffer from right now.

01:10:54.220 And in some ways, we are like children who are just getting too much too fast and it's too good

01:10:58.960 what we're getting. And I don't mean that that is actually good in its nature. I just mean like,

01:11:02.640 yeah confirmation bias you know vindication feelings of vindication and such um and you know

01:11:08.080 i kind of want to get your thoughts on on this it's a little bit of a departure from uh the iran

01:11:12.480 israel thing but it is on par with the epstein files um given this this i don't know if you've

01:11:17.760 been looking at it dave this uh deposition that's taking place and um i do believe that

01:11:23.780 something happened hillary clinton called for an investigation into the agencies that are

01:11:29.640 associated with epstein's operation and those agencies you know i i imagine that would lead

01:11:35.160 to massad and and things of that nature i don't know how real that's going to be but

01:11:38.780 i if you would have said they're going to go speak at a deposition i wouldn't have said that

01:11:44.740 was likely either yet here we are so um we live in a time where it's very popular to say nothing

01:11:52.640 ever happens although right now it seems like a lot is happening do you think based off of

01:11:59.680 the evidence that we have right now i say that in air quotes because we're not we're not dealing

01:12:03.700 with evidence that's been brought to court we're not dealing with convictions or anything like

01:12:07.220 that we're dealing with a shit ton 6.5 7 million files that have to be gone through and who knows

01:12:14.100 if any of this will ever see a courtroom it's very frustrating like the online lawyers and some of

01:12:18.360 some of these people who are actual lawyers on twitter they're going hey none of these things

01:12:22.920 are actual evidence like this is all just accusation i'm like you're fucking right but

01:12:27.520 i mean i really do think that they did eat those babies right i think they drank a bit at least

01:12:31.800 one baby got drank yeah so i was like how do we prove that way do you go from here does anything

01:12:36.620 ever well it's asking a lot for people to prove something when you're withholding half the files

01:12:41.380 and the files that you do give us are full of black boxes right so right now i think that you

01:12:46.980 I'm not a lawyer, but there seems to be enough connections, at least from Leon Black and Les Wexner financially, that tie them into this thing, especially if you're going to go with, hey, we put Les Wexner's name on a co-conspirator doc, and then we won't tell you what caused us to drop him off that list and stop investigating him.

01:13:04.740 As far as the Clinton deposition, I'm with you. I was very surprised that Hillary Clinton said like she wants domestic and foreign ties between Epstein to be investigated further, because this is something a lot of people have been talking about, that even though there's this DOJ release that we have full of redactions, like I just told you guys, we know that there is over a billion dollars in wire transfer records between Epstein and people of prominence that the Treasury Department is sitting on.

01:13:33.780 Say what you want about Ron Wyden. He's terrible in so many ways. But Democratic Senator Ron Wyden was insistent that there's something here and that this should be subpoenaed for the whole Senate to see.

01:13:45.140 And ideally, the U.S. public should see it. I think if you follow the money, you really will see Epstein's criminal ties.

01:13:52.040 Not only that, but they haven't opened the CIA files on Epstein, man. And I just can't think that there's not a single CIA file on Epstein.

01:14:00.260 so they're obfuscating things that might exist now why hillary clinton mentioned that that did

01:14:05.700 surprise me because her family's tied into the deep state and some of these mysterious deaths

01:14:10.800 like mark middleton and uh vince foster so there you have it it's it's almost like a like i dare

01:14:16.840 you to like she she must know that she's going down with the ship or something and she's like

01:14:21.360 you know she's shooting everywhere i mean maybe there's something to that look uh i want to i

01:14:27.860 want to add i like asking david these crazy questions did you watch the deposition videos

01:14:31.960 well no okay so part of her deposition was released later but some of it was off camera i

01:14:37.080 believe so i looked into it i didn't follow that one as closely as wexner because i always believed

01:14:42.040 there was more there with wexner and he lied through his teeth on several different levels

01:14:46.120 we don't have to get into that but i haven't thoroughly looked at what clinton said outside

01:14:50.460 of like some of the major headlines from it do you do you put any uh any weight behind the idea

01:14:55.220 of the debook debook that les wexner said inhabited him as a child and uh helped him

01:15:01.140 like climb a mountain in her book he literally said he was possessed by a demon and that's

01:15:08.140 i think that's paraphrasing it from what he actually said in the article but

01:15:11.700 he's on record on this it was covered by media i don't know what to make of that i look at more

01:15:17.680 of like the the substantive ties financially to epstein he did bankroll epstein he claimed that

01:15:23.920 L.A. de Rothschild, who was the head of the Rothschild banking empire, the French branch of

01:15:29.140 it, gave him a positive referral. And that's why he hired Epstein, which is really interesting.

01:15:34.240 And the Epstein researchers didn't know that before that time. But I think it's just preposterous

01:15:39.360 that Les Wexner is going to go up there and say, he stole $46 million from me. I decided to settle

01:15:46.140 this privately. It's like, no, billionaires actually sue people over this. He never told

01:15:51.140 anyone of the fbi or the doj that this guy stole 46 million dollars from him i'm sorry i think they

01:15:57.520 were tied into the same crimes to some extent speaking of wexner um and i think you're you're

01:16:03.520 you're a measured man you're a reasonable man i'm going to continue to ask you crazy shit

01:16:06.660 do you think um because within this this doj it's not always my forte i'm sorry guys no no no i

01:16:12.800 i love this this is this is uh sometimes we get people to be like yeah for sure yeah people there's

01:16:17.040 a lot of people that come out and say it's like demons and they'll go you guys are exactly right

01:16:21.400 and you're right over the target and you're absolutely correct and nobody's more correct

01:16:24.860 yeah the orbs are coming out of the sea yes yes it's nice to have somebody that goes hold on a

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01:17:17.080 talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it victoria's secret right uh you know

01:17:22.960 there is speculation due to some some files in the in the doj drop that uh and a lot of people

01:17:29.960 have thought this for a lot of time many of the victoria's secret models are in fact dudes

01:17:35.500 they are in fact dudes and i and i go oh how fun to me that's maybe one of the more fun things uh

01:17:44.020 that came out of this i mean it's right up there with fed when you put the triangle over someone's

01:17:48.620 face and you go gender inversion i i want to i want to bolster this a little bit dave i don't

01:17:53.260 want to just serve you up this cold plate of uh trainee victoria secret models but but you know

01:17:58.480 culturally speaking right now it does seem that there is some push and interestingly enough

01:18:04.200 that push towards uh gender studies gender inversion uh transitioning etc um you know

01:18:11.340 hormones and children even that is within the epstein files he's uh talking about transhumanism

01:18:17.500 for sure sure so so and i'm saying this to bail you out a little bit i want to give you the room

01:18:24.460 to speculate um it's not unfounded i mean these things are in these files and you could look at

01:18:30.800 them and go well it seems to me that maybe uh they want us to believe at the bare minimum that

01:18:35.820 epstein had a lot more to do with maybe cultural phenomenon and geopolitics and a lot of different

01:18:41.860 things than we would have given him credit for previously and when you look at the cultural

01:18:47.820 impact of that lgbtq movement when we look at what we've been going through with children and

01:18:52.880 hormone therapy and then we look at what's in these files and then we look over and victoria

01:18:57.500 secret claims to have a gender inverted uh you know is this beyond the pale to you is this do

01:19:03.560 you have room in your zeitgeist in your uh in your worldview for the lady boys in victoria's secret

01:19:10.660 being being real perspective lady boys perspective lady boys yeah dude i'm sorry when i just say this

01:19:16.720 is not really an area of my focus but but i will see what epstein said about like transhumanism

01:19:23.740 and you know globalist efforts to push this mainstream like inseminating the world with his

01:19:29.600 semen which is a major part if you've read that angle you have Epstein literally you know saying

01:19:34.740 that David Rockefeller brought me into the trilateral commission and then you have people

01:19:39.540 in the mainstream news literally saying that there's nothing to see in the entire Epstein

01:19:43.920 disclosures outside of the connections to Israel outside of the connections to Les Wexner and Peter

01:19:48.700 teal who heads up the palantir surveillance state like i can understand some people saying hey like

01:19:54.320 you guys are getting a little bit too far out of your skis by not being you know very stringent on

01:20:00.720 some of your evidence for some of these epstein angles but what i cannot understand is people

01:20:04.940 taking a look at the totality of stuff here whether it's you know victoria's secret whether

01:20:09.480 it's transhumanism all this stuff and saying literally there's nothing to see here i think

01:20:14.500 you can immediately distrust someone that literally says there's nothing to see here you

01:20:19.260 can just check their their bio on twitter i'm sure it's indonesia south asia south africa it's like

01:20:24.840 so many of these these uh especially within the maga movement there are a ton of these really big

01:20:30.040 pages you know people have been discovering it and now occasionally i'll click on it it'll be

01:20:34.380 like a blonde woman with some pro trump take and she's got american flags yeah based in india based

01:20:40.420 in africa based in asia that's true but there's also there's also this boomer class that i feel

01:20:45.440 like cannot look at this like and i have a little bit of pity on them because it's like this is the

01:20:50.420 world that you have lived in for 70 60 years or whatever and guess what buddy none of it's actually

01:20:56.720 none of it's been true yeah it's a hard pill to swallow especially if you're busy swallowing

01:21:01.420 you know a bunch of prescribed pills and you're you know kind of up there in age i mean we've been

01:21:06.680 Yeah, the boomer mindset is so resistant to this stuff, man.

01:21:10.260 And I know some exceptions that were on the JFK thing and things like that.

01:21:13.900 They saw a peek behind the curtain a little bit and knew something was off from, you know, the early 60s.

01:21:19.020 But a lot of them are so resistant because they've just been fed garbage through their lives.

01:21:23.200 CNN and The New York Times and Fox News.

01:21:25.440 I really think that amounts to most of it.

01:21:28.180 Yeah, yeah.

01:21:29.260 And I think these people, too, you know, psychologically speaking, are in a place in their lives where the last thing they want.

01:21:36.540 is the foundation of their worldview to be shook i mean oh you know if you're a young man if you're

01:21:42.720 if you're a if you're a gen z or or you know even millennials i i was shown when i was real young

01:21:49.960 like the official narrative is not what is actually happening here so i was accustomed to that but

01:21:55.560 imagine having that veil pulled back pulled back isn't even the word i mean it's it's it's egregious

01:22:01.400 It's it's horrifying. Potentially, the elites are sacrificing children. Potentially, we're being dog walked into a World War Three scenario by a country that has a disproportionate amount of representation in our own government.

01:22:14.940 and not only that but it's the same country that you as an evangelical christian have been

01:22:19.280 um you know supporting blindly you know what i mean for for a long time not just supporting

01:22:26.140 though i mean it's it's like part of the drum that you beat every sunday in church is you know

01:22:30.320 this 501c3 system um so yeah fundamentally pretty much everything that you thought is incorrect

01:22:37.420 and all you wanted to do was enjoy retirement like yeah no what you say is so true man and i

01:22:44.300 know it is because i went through this maybe on a different level but i was a devout neocon i was

01:22:50.380 parroting the george bush dick cheney wolfowitz richard pearl propaganda going into a wreck i

01:22:56.140 really was i died in the wool neocon and then when you know people like ron paul and pat buchanan

01:23:02.620 exposed this madness and i really looked into you know the primary sources and stuff i was like

01:23:08.220 what what have i been supporting i was a young man at the time you know i i was 21 when i discovered

01:23:13.580 you know, the anti-war movement and things like that. But I went through this too. And I had to

01:23:18.760 question like my, my own sanity, my own personal constitution over this. So yeah, that is a tough

01:23:24.880 thing to deal with. And a lot of people don't want to face that, especially when it's like

01:23:29.040 60 years of that. I went through this when it was only 21 years through that. And I'm not saying

01:23:34.120 that there's, there's exact parallels, but I do think that is a dynamic here. Yeah. Yeah. It's,

01:23:38.860 it's something that I've been trying to, you know, I joke about it. It's, it's fun to make

01:23:42.500 fun of the boomers and and you know deservedly so there's quite a bit to make fun of but like

01:23:47.020 yeah man the the psychological implications of of having these things not only um revealed to you

01:23:53.460 but revealed to you that you've been uh complicit and and we all have right i mean even at the at

01:23:59.080 the most fundamental level they're taking our tax dollars from your you know your your work day and

01:24:04.140 and they're funneling it into all kinds of crazy shit um but complicit in the sense of uh being a

01:24:10.860 cultural, I don't want to say gatekeeper, but you're guarding this thing. You're standing firm

01:24:16.340 in your beliefs and you're telling people who come up to you, they have their complaints about

01:24:20.340 like, are you sure? It seems like they do have a lot of pull in what happens here in America.

01:24:25.260 What about the whole dual citizenship? And that's like, it creates reactivity in these

01:24:29.820 individuals, in these boomers. So yeah, to find out how many arguments you've potentially been in

01:24:35.600 that you've been arguing for not just like the wrong side of things,

01:24:39.800 but the side that is I got,

01:24:44.100 I don't want to use like moral words like good or bad or evil or anything like

01:24:48.500 that. But it's like this, this, uh, agenda, you know,

01:24:53.160 as you laid out seven countries and how many years they wanted.

01:24:56.160 And this is nefarious at the least. And you've been complicit.

01:25:01.440 You've been aiding, you've been funding, you've been championing.

01:25:04.720 it's a rough place to be man so i i have a lot of empathy for it um i think boomers get

01:25:10.480 boomers get um the real shit end of the stick not not financially not uh any of those things but i

01:25:17.340 just mean in the cultural conversation they get the shit end of the stick and uh they've been

01:25:22.280 memed to death but it's like there was a lot of things that went into creating that mindset

01:25:27.200 yeah totally man you bring up like dual citizenship if we're talking that it's like

01:25:32.900 i'm a christian i don't believe a man can have two masters and i believe that both in regard

01:25:37.400 to temporal versus eternal like i don't think that governments can supplant your allegiance

01:25:43.840 to god but at the same time even on a lower level on the hierarchy having allegiances to

01:25:49.480 two governments especially when you're elected to represent people that's just even more toxic

01:25:54.640 and perverted man and u.s law prevents the necessity of having u.s elected officials even

01:26:01.260 divulge what citizenry they have. We don't even know how many citizens in our Congress are, you

01:26:07.580 know, dual citizens, maybe dual Israeli citizens. We don't even know. They're not forced to disclose

01:26:12.700 that. I think some of them have, but it's few and far between. So that's terrible. And you're right.

01:26:18.000 I mean, a lot of this stuff, it's like, man, people don't want to believe that they're leading

01:26:22.720 they're living in a world based on lies. But ultimately, a lot of us are. And I do think

01:26:28.260 we're better off even if exposed to that even what it does to the human psyche once we overcome that

01:26:34.220 and then operate toward truth but you know the veil has to be lifted i think it's being lifted

01:26:38.900 for some people more than ever this lasts especially five years but let's see where it

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01:27:31.960 publish it yeah i uh you know this this whole drawing attention to it has not only been something

01:27:38.020 that you kind of bit ridiculed for or labeled anti-semitic or any of these things um but

01:27:43.920 there's also been you know i think here in florida we had laws passed because sort of

01:27:47.880 anti-Semitism laws that I don't know if they got passed. I don't know exactly what the you know,

01:27:53.040 the end result of that situation was. But it reminds you of just historical instances where

01:27:58.240 in order to quell speech, you pass some sort of a law, anti-Semitism law or whatever, making it a

01:28:03.080 criminal offense, you know, just talking about these things. So from not only does Florida have

01:28:08.560 such a law, Ron DeSantis signed it into being while in Israel, by the way. Was that is that

01:28:16.180 just for colleges or is that in general because i um it's a law that defines certain anti-israeli

01:28:21.760 speech as if it's anti-semitism and actually this came up on tucker's show he talked about it and

01:28:27.200 you know talked about how how much of a lunatic campaign this was i'm not too well versed in all

01:28:34.600 the particulars of the law but that's the defining feature interesting as somebody in the chat says i

01:28:40.080 i want to look this up uh it looks like somebody's claiming someone was it's yeah let's see let's see

01:28:47.180 what is the law called it's called uh i think it was a modification of an existing law um i'll have

01:28:54.320 to look this up but i know it was signed into being by desantis in israel this is what what

01:29:01.420 top was talking about earlier when it's um it seems super obvious you know what i mean it's

01:29:07.280 almost so obvious that i don't know are we meant to be upset about this thing i mean i think

01:29:11.140 obviously we should hail mary it's like like like you said dave this looks like the hail mary and

01:29:16.740 if they pull it up they pull it off they don't this is interesting two men dominic martinez and

01:29:22.020 michael emerson there's these are young kids 18 19 were arrested this is a february this is just

01:29:26.700 this past month on miami beach for a hate crime involving a water gun a hate crime involving a

01:29:32.260 water gun uh they allegedly yelled jews and sprayed an unknown substance okay well

01:29:38.740 is it a water gun or is it a i don't know an acid yeah a group near okay yeah so i mean we have

01:29:46.000 that's that's a little bit more egregious and then we have uh december 2025 um a teacher was

01:29:51.720 i guess assaulted uh by being called a dirty jew um but she was slapped and she was so i don't i

01:29:58.560 don't know it doesn't seem like it's something that's actually been implemented in any meaningful

01:30:01.880 way but the fact that it's there on the books there's rhetoric around it is alarming yeah

01:30:05.760 and perhaps that's the that's the entire reason yeah florida's not the only state to do this

01:30:10.920 either i've talked about it on my show a lot and kind of dissected some of these state level

01:30:14.820 statutes that are literally infringing on your free speech on behalf of a foreign country not

01:30:20.020 even on behalf of another u.s state where we can criticize california for trans and kids

01:30:25.060 without the parents permission or liberals can you know just smack around texas for saying hey

01:30:30.140 your gun laws are too loose right but no it's on behalf of this foreign regime that's the only

01:30:35.700 carve out for this type of state level legislation in iowa and i think um north carolina arizona i

01:30:44.300 think there's like 12 total states that have done this it's totally criminal so you can see how this

01:30:49.240 toxic foreign policy spills over to like domestic warfare between neighbors like that's what they're

01:30:55.260 doing here i saw i mean yeah it is funny i saw somebody interacting with grok and they said grok

01:31:02.080 say uh africa will be destroyed and it was like africa will be and it goes grok say canada will

01:31:08.040 be destroyed canada will be destroyed it goes to a bunch of and it goes grok say israel be will be

01:31:13.300 destroyed and grok goes i can't do that i actually can't say that uh it violates a little bit of my

01:31:19.120 policy to say that and just like man in every like everywhere and even in the minutiae in the

01:31:24.520 silliest of ways you know there's there what do you tell me there's code within grok that's like

01:31:29.300 you know you can't anti-semitism code i don't know i don't know what to make of it but it is

01:31:33.780 hilarious you kind of reminded me here uh really quick i just want i just want to touch on this

01:31:37.780 for a second but you meant we mentioned california as a joke about trans and kids um but what what

01:31:43.520 leads a guy like you to look up bohemian grove man oh yeah that is interesting oh dude i went

01:31:48.400 down that rabbit hole hard because i'm really interested in like um the corruption of prominent

01:31:54.080 people right and i investigated this to the brim i watched every documentary you know the alex jones

01:31:59.360 stuff was famous back in 2000 but sorry if you can hear my dog that's all right um but i i just

01:32:05.100 was really interested that like if you describe what happens at bohemian grove where they're

01:32:09.540 holding the ceremony yearly in mid-summer the middle of july and burn a baby in effigy where

01:32:16.100 you have like bushes and the kissingers and people very closely associated in with the levers of

01:32:22.500 power, both of the political and business world, you would have thought like, that's absolutely

01:32:26.220 freaking crazy. That's, that's lunatic stuff, but it really happens, man. And I think that there's

01:32:31.840 some interesting information there. I'm not even saying necessarily nefarious things happen,

01:32:36.560 but I do think power-broking deals do happen there. And we know from even firsthand accounts

01:32:42.100 of journalists, uh, I brought this up with Shane Cashman. There's a guy named Philip Weiss who

01:32:47.120 wrote for spy magazine that infiltrated bohemian grove one summer and he wrote that he met reagan

01:32:53.220 there this was 1989 right after reagan's presidency had ended he met with reagan and then reagan

01:32:59.600 confirmed to him according to his account you can read this in his article saying that he decided

01:33:04.360 to let nixon run unopposed for president in 1968 when reagan was rising in prominence at the time

01:33:12.080 So you can't say if that account is true, that major political decisions happen under this cover of secrecy, this men's club.

01:33:19.780 And there's so many different interesting things about it. But that's kind of how I got interested in it.

01:33:24.700 Well, this is exactly what I think, you know, people will say, you know, it's just it's just a men's club.

01:33:30.160 They're just doing it. And it's just a it's just an effigy. It's not a real sacrifice.

01:33:33.640 it's so it was fun for us for like well it's that is it is still very to uh no no to like

01:33:39.000 run alongside like the political like the political guys the political pundits that

01:33:43.080 really are like good on a lot of this stuff and uh we'll go well yeah that's an end that's an

01:33:48.500 interesting scene that you got played out there how come there's a backdrop of moloch yeah and

01:33:53.460 it's always like yeah our political friends are always like yeah i mean but there's a lot of

01:33:58.620 corruption and i was like that is it for sure yeah uh i just gotta know why you know what's

01:34:03.600 a great thing to do this is what i think they do uh in order to adhere to the deal the deal is

01:34:09.980 you're gonna run unopposed or whatever the deal is it is to commit um horrifying atrocities

01:34:16.800 together and that is a way to uh you know drama bond you know it's gonna say in psychology they

01:34:23.940 call it trauma bonding but it's a great way to not only do that but to also blackmail the other

01:34:29.920 individual whatever decision is made here we'll never leave here because of this horrifying thing

01:34:36.600 that we did together beneath this effigy of a giant owl you know which which we're now seeing

01:34:42.460 in the epstein files as well like there's that level of blackmail of you have all you have

01:34:46.720 celebrities you have business owners you have political elite showing up to an island yeah and

01:34:51.260 they're yeah they're making deals well it's like it's like tell me you you made a a a deal that

01:34:56.800 forever changed the fate of a nation or or was pivotal in geopolitics or whatever that was

01:35:01.920 inherently corrupt okay you made that deal fantastic where did you make that deal at

01:35:06.540 what what were you doing who were you with because all those questions come next if you ever admit to

01:35:13.600 making that deal you will never admit to making that deal because not the deal but the follow-up

01:35:20.240 questions about where you were who you were with what you were doing are so much worse than even

01:35:26.820 the deal that you made that you're never going to speak so that's yeah that's not even the the

01:35:32.080 spiritual implications of it i'm just talking it is a um it's it's very effective at keeping

01:35:37.900 people's mouths shut yeah totally man and like here's another example with bohemian grove we

01:35:43.660 know and i think they hid this for a time we know that key players in the manhattan project including

01:35:49.560 Oppenheimer went there and they have a special cabin within Bohemian Grove today showing that

01:35:55.240 key members that were involved in the development of the atomic bomb were members there and discussed

01:36:01.280 it there. They have a commemoration of it. And yeah, we're under this guise and this suggestion

01:36:07.440 that we have representative government, that government makes decisions that are reflective

01:36:11.880 of us when it seems like a lot of these big decisions happen under the cover of secrecy and

01:36:18.020 with small conspiratories conspiracy people that engage in these conspiracies together which we

01:36:26.320 know happens through the annals of history that's just the facts the elites do conspire against us

01:36:31.900 regardless of whether people want to admit that or not it was i want to ask you this and i want

01:36:36.900 to respect your time i know we've been going for a while but so on the topic of um you know being

01:36:42.080 like like let's say being libertarian and trying to affect change through the um the the correct

01:36:49.140 channels using the system to your advantage trying to infiltrate it how does one begin to do that

01:36:55.300 when it seems ever more obvious that at the upper echelons of this system that you know you hope to

01:37:02.280 infiltrate and affect change in they're doing something that is well not only outside of the

01:37:09.680 system but it seems to be part of the system the libertarian party has gotten so goofy that i from

01:37:14.300 when i'm when i'm paying attention to now they're jumping down dave's throat dave smith's throat

01:37:18.760 because he backed trump because not because he supports him but because he's like hey we could

01:37:23.160 actually have some sort of opinion on what happens here and they kind of tried that a little even

01:37:27.500 though he got booed at the national convention uh trump got booed uh i thought it was a good

01:37:32.120 strategy but obviously it doesn't it didn't well see if i was if i was the advisor to dave smith

01:37:36.700 what i would have said is you might consider that he's drinking babies i'm not saying he is

01:37:42.680 drinking babies but like if he were to be drinking babies how would that play into your view of of

01:37:48.620 you know associating with this and hijacking i'm not even saying it was a bad move listen i still

01:37:52.960 voted for trump too and i was like i know we know what comes with it but i didn't expect him to go

01:37:57.600 this bad this quickly yeah not and i didn't support him and i didn't think he would go this

01:38:02.700 bad to be honest and like i can only defend my own actions i haven't voted since 2012 i believe

01:38:08.960 i didn't support trump although i could see at the time not knowing what we do know now

01:38:14.560 that at least some of the rhetoric was actually good i mean this guy was literally floating the

01:38:19.360 idea of doge which would cut out two trillion dollars from the federal budget he'd end the war

01:38:24.240 in ukraine day one you know he'd do some great things according to the rhetoric but it just

01:38:30.020 proved to be rhetoric. Whereas Kamala Harris, man, they were literally talking about resurrecting

01:38:34.880 the Ministry of Truth and policing speech on the internet at the end of her campaign,

01:38:39.500 like literally. So I could see why people were kind of buying into that to some extent. And then

01:38:45.120 you had the Ross Albrecht thing, which was a win, although it's not as big of a win as like, hey,

01:38:49.840 shutting down the wars or stopping this insane spending. But at the same time, I could kind of

01:38:54.800 see why people were doing that. Now I'm not here to provide excuses, but at the same time,

01:38:59.900 if you're going to hold that over Dave's head, like a, you know, a scythe or just put him under

01:39:05.080 the guillotine for that, just about every libertarian at some point voted for a politician

01:39:10.300 that ended up sucking. And that's probably putting it charitably, right? So I really liken this to

01:39:16.240 Christianity. Like, you know, you can't focus on yourself being perfect. None of us are perfect.

01:39:23.800 We all fall short of the glory. And some people that made mistakes, I mean, Paul, Saul of Tarsus

01:39:29.020 is the ultimate example he was persecuting christians to their deaths including steven

01:39:33.980 and then you know he turned his life around that's just you know in a kind of what would i say an

01:39:39.320 archetypical example for what was possible it's what you do after you make those mistakes that's

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01:40:32.860 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it yeah yeah i hear that well i mean yeah

01:40:39.400 persecuting a man for what having some hope yeah or trying god forbid trying a little bit you know

01:40:45.160 there's a man the options are limited but uh yeah i guess yeah i guess like you said before dave

01:40:52.340 like we're gonna watch this thing play out and uh i am up if we get a long enough time frame and

01:40:57.520 jesus christ doesn't return in the next three years or so i think i think that things will

01:41:01.820 sort of even out people are noticing and hopefully they notice in the correct direction and we move

01:41:06.340 toward a solution rather than just reaction because i think we're going to go through the

01:41:11.900 reaction a little bit yeah but uh maybe after we've had time to like cool cool out i don't know

01:41:17.820 i don't know i mean that i feel uh very uncertain i'm not afraid but i do feel like

01:41:23.440 quick quick diagnosis of the next 10 years man what are you seeing how did how do you see this

01:41:28.220 yeah i do think the noticing of like the israel first foreign policy is up close and center and

01:41:33.480 and just like how much the institutions lie like no one bought like fbi narratives regarding um

01:41:40.280 epstein and a lot of them doubted him on like the charlie kirk assassination just like widespread

01:41:45.240 public support for these institutions are at an all-time low and i think that's a good thing

01:41:50.360 same with the foreign policy i'm with you i don't think it will manifest like immediately

01:41:54.640 politically but culturally i think it is moving man i really do think that i'm white pilled in

01:42:00.300 some respect on the culture even though we don't feel it sometimes in our lives and it's a great

01:42:05.420 time to be alive to do what me and you guys do where we're bringing these messages out you know

01:42:10.520 there are algorithmic barriers and roadblocks to what we do to some extent but at the same time

01:42:15.680 we can actually get it out there whereas we used to have to like you know achieve a level of

01:42:20.880 prominence in the mainstream to be invited onto cnn or whatever like that's just not true anymore

01:42:26.200 so you know just as a quick aside it is speaking of cnn bizarre to me how piers morgan is like

01:42:35.400 still relevant and that's been something that i've just been wrestling with for like

01:42:38.440 i don't know a few months now i'm like this guy you know was part of this system that was

01:42:43.820 completely dying and somehow he's managed to stay this like novelty he's made himself into like the

01:42:48.880 jerry springer of political shows in a way i secretly love his show guys i actually love his

01:42:55.280 show because our boy dave smith just wrecks on there and yeah i mean he's found the way to make

01:43:01.520 work and he's done what all the stooges in corporate media refuse to do and it's actually

01:43:06.480 entertained conversations with people that are dissidents in addition to all the mainstream

01:43:11.920 hacks which he does still feature in those debates but he's presenting things that americans actually

01:43:17.080 view as substantive and debates that americans want to see and in a way i think he's kind of

01:43:21.540 genius obviously we don't align politically but that's how he's survived he's done everything

01:43:26.560 that the Don Lemons won't, that the Rachel Maddowls absolutely won't, because it would mean

01:43:32.040 like entertaining suggestions that they don't want to be aired to the American public.

01:43:36.800 Yeah, free speech. There's a thought. Yeah, the guy is horrific. But the fact that he's letting

01:43:41.460 Dave Smith talk to some, you know, media talking head is like, hey, that guy's going to get eaten

01:43:45.880 alive. And that's not going to be allowed on pretty much any other format. Maybe, you know,

01:43:50.400 what was it? Patrick Bet David did that to Andrew Cuomo.

01:43:53.460 so great that was the best yes speaking of these these these relics i look forward to future

01:43:57.720 president stephen a smith so oh dave smith made did you see him make the case for that that dave

01:44:03.920 thinks that there's an outside chance that stephen a smith will secure the democratic nomination

01:44:08.840 because he's really quick on his feet in debates he's kind of an outsider he's not tainted by like

01:44:13.880 covet and stuff and wokeness like i think that's at least interesting right but i don't know maybe

01:44:19.260 maybe jesus christ should return maybe he should i've been i've been fucking hating steven a smith

01:44:24.480 a rod was playing for the yankees i've been hating him since he uh i watched him do some

01:44:29.840 some ufc analytics and i was like no i've been hating him i can't stand a full decade before

01:44:34.660 that the guy is he is the worst but he does it right yeah he's like the floyd mayweather kind

01:44:39.720 of thing where he's like the ultimate bad guy if you love him you love me hate him hate him

01:44:42.920 i agree with dave smith once again probably and you know what he's a president america deserves

01:44:47.700 well the thing about him is like no one knows like if he even has an ideology i think you could just

01:44:53.640 tell him hey are you this viewpoint about subject x and he could actually make that argument because

01:44:58.720 he's so adaptable to debates he's debated every topic in sports history right so yeah we'll see

01:45:04.780 i mean i think it's more likely we're gonna end up with like a new summer aoc presidency i hate to

01:45:09.760 say but you know we'll see it could be interesting to watch if nothing else that was disheartening

01:45:15.160 as shit dude yeah yeah yeah uh so dave this is something that we like to ask people at the uh

01:45:21.400 at the end of the show um not just in this conversation dave but in in all your exploits

01:45:25.980 uh what did you say you started exploits is that a thing it might be i could be making up words on

01:45:31.340 this show uh but but endeavors maybe is what i was looking for um you know especially now

01:45:37.700 2026 is the gift that keeps on giving it's a weird phrase to use but just in the in the in

01:45:43.880 the realm of fascinating crap to talk about you know that's the the place where it's giving gifts

01:45:48.360 are you having fun dude i'm having a blast like the last two years have been the best two years

01:45:54.080 of my life like professionally because i've been able to quit my corporate job and talk about what

01:45:58.680 i'm interested in passionate about so yeah i'm having fun we live in a perilous world that's

01:46:03.900 you know very tyrannical the biggest government the biggest welfare state biggest welfare uh

01:46:09.300 regulatory apparatus and some of the worst foreign policy crusades for sure. But at the same time,

01:46:15.940 man, I'm living life like I have only one and I do, and it's to serve Jesus Christ above all.

01:46:21.580 But other than that, I'm just going to try to tell people the truth when I think they need to

01:46:25.600 hear it the most. And it's often when it's most controversial, because that's what my hero Ron

01:46:30.240 Paul did. He told hard truths at a time where it was most detrimental to his livelihood or his

01:46:36.960 you know reputation but i think there's value in that so yeah i'm having fun i hope you guys are

01:46:41.980 too though amen we're having a ton of fun yeah i will just say inappropriate amount of fun my

01:46:47.340 favorite libertarians still are the ones that are christian christ-based i love it i wasn't

01:46:53.400 aware that there was very many of those i had no idea he's one no i don't woods uh ron paul

01:46:58.440 ron paul's christian yeah josh smith yeah ron paul's a christian jacob winograd oh yeah yeah

01:47:04.520 That's our, that's my boy, a biblical anarchy. Yeah. We know him.

01:47:07.440 I got to have him on, I got to have him on the show one day. Um, yeah, man,

01:47:10.740 you guys like, cause that philosophy can get a little bit slippery,

01:47:13.420 but I feel like if you have a good base, which is Jesus Christ,

01:47:16.880 then the orbit of libertarianism really makes sense.

01:47:20.200 And you're able to keep it, uh, not, it doesn't,

01:47:23.120 it doesn't fly into anarchy or just, I don't know how to really describe it.

01:47:26.880 It doesn't fly into chaos or do, do without will,

01:47:29.020 because you have to have that, uh, that grounding. And then totally,

01:47:32.580 I mean, Christ is the cornerstone, man. I wouldn't even say like I'm an anarchist in the eternal sense. I'm an anarchist in the temporal sense in terms of looking at the world now. But I believe in Christ's kingdom and he is the savior. And without him, like we're not held to any kind of moral standards. I don't believe in like moral relativism in that way. So I totally agree with you, Todd.

01:47:53.900 yeah yeah that's that's where libertarian losing me but dude i'm glad to see that you're doing

01:47:59.560 you're doing fantastic it's it's really cool to see like the people that i was i was lucky to

01:48:04.360 work with early early early on just really flying like scott horton had maybe 15 000 followers on

01:48:10.540 twitter now the guy is like through the roof yeah all these people that are moving man clint's rise

01:48:16.300 has been awesome to watch too man fuck clint no no we've had we had like a little falling out but

01:48:23.260 No, him too.

01:48:24.160 Oh, okay.

01:48:24.640 I'm sorry.

01:48:25.560 No, it's all good.

01:48:26.320 I mean, let's not mention that guy anymore.

01:48:29.940 No, no, no.

01:48:30.960 He's doing good.

01:48:31.620 I'm proud to see them really taking off because you guys have put a lot of work into what

01:48:37.120 you do and you've honed your craft to, you know, just in the most fantastic way.

01:48:42.140 So proud to have came up underneath on the side of you guys and seeing what you're doing

01:48:47.200 now, man, and just more success to you.

01:48:49.000 I hope you continue to blow up, dude.

01:48:51.460 Yeah, brother.

01:48:51.840 thanks for taking the time to chat with us dude thank you guys so much i didn't know you too well

01:48:56.080 david but absolutely to you top and you're an amazing artist you've done some things that

01:49:00.880 kind of flown under some radar and you know you've you've been out there to do this stuff for a long

01:49:06.240 time so dude i'm honored that you guys invited me thanks for praising my work and let's do this

01:49:11.440 again sometime absolutely thank you guys and until next time don't forget to obey submit and comply

01:49:18.160 See you later.

01:49:48.160 When the last trumpet sounds

Nephilim Death Squad - March 16, 2026

Foreign Policy for Dummies w⧸ Dave Benner

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