00:18:52.460When he used it, I think in his, in his reel on his Instagram, that's crazy.
00:18:55.980You know where that same thing pops up?
00:18:58.100I have been listening to Wes Germer's Sasquatch Chronicles recently because I kind of I just like the you spend enough time in conspiracies.
00:19:08.620And I'm like, I don't know why I go. Give me cryptids. I just want cryptids.
00:19:12.400I don't want to know about it's light stuff. Trump in the Antichrist or, you know, any of the things if they're trying to fulfill prophecy.
00:19:18.420I don't even want to look at it anymore. Give me big monkeys in the woods.
00:19:22.060And what keeps coming up is people that are having these encounters, they have what they call over and over again.
00:19:30.860I mean, if you listen to this show, it's all about people bumping into Sasquatch.
00:19:35.740And they will all describe the fear associated with seeing this thing as something primal, something like genetic, something that comes from deep within their own DNA.
00:19:47.220It's a fear unlike anything they've experienced.
00:19:49.520and i've even listened to a few of these experiencers go on because if you imagine
00:19:53.120you have an experience like this you're going to start researching and the more you research
00:19:57.320and you find other people in their theories and and you start to piece together what you think
00:20:01.800this phenomenon is and i've heard people say i think it's an offshoot of the nephilim and i think
00:20:06.920the fear is that these things are going to they could eat you right and that was the idea with
00:20:12.900the nephilim was that they were cannibalistic cannibalistic meaning they're half human so
00:20:16.840they're eating human beings um so this is you know a huge part of the fear associated with them
00:20:22.780i heard one guy's story in particular where um it would show up to the window you know adjacent to
00:20:30.460his bed at night he's being tormented by this thing until eventually he moves away from where
00:20:34.520he lives and it's it's uh gnashing its teeth like it's i can't even do the noise but it's like
00:20:41.300like outside of his window slapping its teeth together and he said it was the most terrifying
00:20:47.260sound because he knew what it was he could hear that it was teeth slapping together but it's like
00:20:51.540it was telling him i'm gonna eat you so but it's just funny because that same way there's a spider
00:20:57.160and there's a fear associated with that there's a snake and there's a fear associated with that
00:21:00.320clowns have the same thing turns out bigfoot has the same thing and it is
00:21:04.840it comes from a primal place like a genetic memory it's almost like god's like pretty clever0.99
00:21:13.100and bakes into us what we should be scared of without having to think about it you know what
00:21:18.140i'm saying like it's like a design feature you know what i mean yeah yeah i think there's
00:21:22.980something to that um i mean that goes to it's kind of what i wanted to talk about here today
00:21:27.260but also to tie that up that's why we are looking for a new church if anybody is interested the
00:21:33.760clowns were it the clowns were the straw you know what it is and i i wanted to know was this more
00:21:38.640like the bozo the clown image or more of the pennywise image more the bozo the clown you know0.94
00:21:43.980red nose you could you could work pennywise into a sermon on nephilim absolutely you could you could0.55
00:21:51.880but you can't it but you can't bring clowns on the pulpit and be completely unaware of what this
00:21:57.880represents and this is like a funny thing well you know what it is you know what it is it's there's
00:22:02.860there's not a euphemism there's something there there's poetry there and what it is is that some
00:22:08.040churches are so unarmed spiritually that they will not only let the devil in he's always trying to
00:22:16.100get into the church but they'll bring him on stage and they'll stand next to him and that's this idea
00:22:22.400of like being um was a gentle as doves and wise as serpents woefully unaware it is my people perish
00:22:29.280for lack of knowledge like i'm not saying get all wrapped up in conspiracy in fact i i recommend
00:22:34.100not doing that i recommend keeping your eyes on jesus christ and knowing the lord so well
00:22:38.420one little foot down in in the water though maybe maybe go to the water sometime and have a gander
00:22:44.040take a look yeah take a look at the water this is also maybe use your discernment like something in
00:22:49.180your spirit has to shake uneasy when you see your kids dress like this and if it doesn't weird then
00:22:55.800maybe you're in a bad position maybe yeah maybe you need to really read because you're leading a
00:23:01.220flock now and i've seen and read too much to just completely ignore what is screaming like the
00:23:08.640inside of you is screaming when you see a clown even if you're not terrified of it you go oh0.99
00:23:13.860shit right everybody if there's just a clown that walks through the room you go oh what's gonna0.99
00:23:19.880happen right like maybe he has flowers or a knife we don't know right if that's that well they0.99
00:23:25.420literally like symbolize chaos right yeah like it's that it's not knowing what they're gonna do
00:23:29.940there there's gonna be 47 of them climb out of a mini cooper you know like how's that possible
00:23:35.520oh the flower shoots water oh the gun has a flag it is all you things you're you're naming are the1.00
00:23:42.800worst thing it's gonna do the worst shit to you it's gonna be so annoying i i i don't like clowns0.99
00:23:49.320i don't find them scary i find them incredibly off-putting though so there is something about0.98
00:23:54.080it that i don't like but that's the other thing too even you don't have to know all that stuff
00:23:57.900right guys you just have to know what clowns have been synonymous with for the past 20 years
00:24:02.780yeah like john wayne gacy which is horror they've been synonymous with horror top one of the things
00:24:09.560that has really hit me these last few weeks is you know walking through uh what's a like hobby
00:24:16.020lobby right it's got a like a christian-esque um faith base to it right but yet in hobby lobby
00:24:23.260all of a sudden i'm just confronted all these gnostic type artistry and stuff and i'm like
00:24:29.500it's everywhere like we don't we don't you know like like you guys are saying like have an awareness
00:24:35.160of what is going on and you know if it's a you know you don't have to get immersed in it to the
00:24:39.580point where you're drowning but be aware be awake of what you know these clowns represent
00:24:45.300on a broader scale uh so i'm curious how did y'all catch how they tied in the clowns to the service0.97
00:24:51.880in the worst way in in the worst possible man i feel brand i'm gonna get kicked we need kicked0.98
00:24:57.120out of the church that's all right i'll just fucking say it i don't care i don't care they0.94
00:25:01.720somebody should hear this and matt was 100 right my kids came in here yeah not long ago and they0.94
00:25:07.600were trying to raise money for missions which oh my god that's so funny you know what they're0.64
00:25:11.700gonna find out eventually and it's just like i don't give a fuck about missions i'm sorry that0.79
00:25:15.800i know that how dare you i don't care i don't care we've got a lot of problems here we're gonna0.86
00:25:20.880slap a big explicit language oh yeah thing it's parental advisory this is my personal opinion
00:25:28.080and i i know that i might be wrong for this i know that there's a great commission i just think
00:25:33.420when it comes to missions and i look at what they're doing it's it's again like woefully
00:25:37.260unaware like we're sitting in in in church and i'm watching these guys they come and they deliver
00:25:43.340a message but really what it is is an appearance on your podcast slash church where they're going
00:25:47.800to then ask your church for money and they say what they've been doing and the guy's standing
00:25:51.680in front of you know an aztec mayan temple and he's like isn't this great and here look at this
00:25:56.620statue of this ancient god anyway we're gonna go over here and i was like you have no idea what
00:26:00.840you're doing i remember that one you've got no clue yeah you're standing in front of you you are
00:26:30.920makes you crush because you answered the call.
00:26:32.720okay but after seven years of crushing in this area you should know now is that fair oh maybe
00:26:38.140yeah i mean there's definitely something to that there's definitely so so coming from like the
00:26:42.960pastoral side like uh which you know that's a wide berth of people i'm kind of appealing to
00:26:48.880right there but like what i see is there's kind of two sides to this to this spectrum like either
00:26:54.980you are so woefully unaware of the supernatural that it's like you really kind of live like a
00:27:02.320materialist and i see that side of things like you would you would acknowledge the spiritual and say
00:27:06.740you believe in it but then you live your life as if none of that's real right that's one side of
00:27:11.320the coin then you got the other side of the coin where it's like there's a demon hiding under every
00:27:16.920rock and everything you do is is because a demon made you do it and that's a supernatural all things
00:27:22.900are supernatural things and that's not right either like reality sits in that in the middle
00:27:28.060there where it's like, okay, we need to have discernment against these things. But at the
00:27:33.440same time, like we also live in the physical world, which is impacted by the spiritual world
00:27:38.700and intrinsically connected to the spiritual world. But like I sin in and of my flesh because
00:27:44.800my flesh likes sin. It's not just because a demon made me do it. So like, it's kind of this tight
00:27:50.400rope walk. And I think there's a lot of people that know that and they see kind of like the
00:27:56.220people that take it off the rails and they're like well i don't want to be them so they just
00:28:00.660run from all things supernatural yeah and i think we've got that problem currently that we're dealing
00:28:05.600with as well well i wonder about that i can be an extremist in a way i and today's extremist yes
00:28:11.680but i think my main point is that like when i do look at what they're doing it's it's fine it's
00:28:18.220fine i guess it's just i'm like there's i have we have a lot of problems here where we live and i
00:28:22.360would like to fix where like clean your room bucko before you go and save the world that's
00:28:26.720my mentality i know jordan peterson is a benzo addict but that's where i'm at so it's like if
00:28:30.740you if you want to reach somebody you kind of have to be like buttoned up yourself so i'm looking at
00:28:35.560this and i'm kind of like hey let's fix here but realistically what the missions thing is about
00:28:41.120it's just about like how much how many they can do so i'm like all right so just a lot yeah just
00:28:45.680a lot we'll just do a whole lot to everybody whoever we're doing we're doing the missions
00:28:49.500now so like yeah we'll just take money i don't know man it's it's weird and it gets even more
00:28:53.920weird the layer of this that's weird again i'm probably gonna be kicked i don't care
00:28:56.840they're they had a contest for kids my kids to raise money to give to the missions and i'm like
00:29:03.820i'm not giving to the missions i don't care i don't care but like now my kids are like this is
00:29:09.360a good thing and they come in here they ask matt for money hey it's for missions and matt goes get
00:29:13.040out of here and he's right he's 100 right he told he told my daughter he said no she was very upset
00:29:19.200she was upset and then your dad was upset and my dad was upset and i was like this is a life lesson
00:29:22.920and i think matt is right because who cares well then because of it then because of it we got0.97
00:29:28.620fucking clowns right okay because i don't even know what was it a bet we're doing bets we're0.97
00:29:33.940doing clownery it was like if you reached a certain amount of money this person had to dress0.99
00:29:37.500like a clown if you reached another level of money then another person had to dress like
00:29:40.700of the monies and they got dressed like clowns i you know what it is man the the big problem0.79
00:29:46.880level than eating a goldfish yeah yeah if you read when i was growing up like yeah if you hit
00:29:54.440the goal then the youth pastor had to eat a goldfish pull it up out of the bowl or not yeah
00:29:59.600okay yeah all right shave heads or whatever you know all right like that even in my high school
00:30:05.600did stuff like that we've never taken it from goldfish to class that's like steve-o level all
00:30:09.540right you know what i miss i don't i i don't need i don't think you need to eat anything or dress
00:30:12.940like anything i want strongman competitions i want strongman for the lord company you know where
00:30:17.200they run through two by fours and they break center blocks and stuff and they lift impossible
00:30:20.780weights they break chains that was a deal in the 90s that's what i want that back i've been to it
00:30:28.440i want just how about it just raise the money if you want to and then if you do like okay great
00:30:33.180then do what you raise the money for well no you know you know what i think we need what do we need
00:30:37.460something different because you know as you're talking about this idea that you go to hobby
00:30:42.440lobby and like there's all kinds of kind of gnostic symbolism and that's hobby lobby mantra well i'm
00:30:48.120not saying what i'm what i'm getting at is like maybe hobby lobby is a temperature gauge for the
00:30:52.560rest of the world right you go into hobby lobby you look around and you get an idea of how esoteric
00:30:56.940the average person is getting right and so i think that after 2020 we've been going through these like
00:31:03.020um rapid increases in knowledge but it's information it's not wisdom it's information
00:31:11.820Right. And the average person is now becoming more and more privy to spiritual principles and ideologies and and symbolism, et cetera.
00:31:19.420It's like I've been saying the bar for, excuse me, conspiracy theory has been lowered to such a degree where it used to be something you would have to seek out and you would be on the fringes of society.
00:31:30.700All the line moms have come out of the woodwork.0.69
00:31:31.960Yes. Now it's now it's like the average person can get a little bit of this.
00:31:37.360You know, the average soccer mom has a little bit of knowledge of some things.
00:31:41.400she might not understand it but she's doing yoga and she's meditating or some crap like that
00:31:45.080i think the world is getting to a point where this veil that separates ours from the spiritual realm
00:31:51.280is becoming thinner and thinner and i think that process may well become uh exponential
00:31:57.180in its dissolving right and the church should be pushing back against that like well that's0.95
00:32:02.620what i'm saying the exact way and i feel like an asshole because the last couple of weeks0.98
00:32:07.280but why are you not in your head i thought you were out i don't know i just thought you were0.99
00:32:11.040having some self-realizations there he is an asshole the last couple of weeks you could see0.99
00:32:16.680some of the shorts on instagram david's like he's like i'm this guy the pastor is not bringing this0.99
00:32:21.540he's like i'm gonna choke him and i did threaten to choke the pastor he did and that was wasn't
00:32:25.340nice of you he wasn't reading enough scripture and i go hey man listen the church is for a0.59
00:32:30.340certain thing they're doing an all right job take it easy take it easy he's like they keep doing
00:32:36.400more songs he's right you're you're right they are doing more songs they do an extra song every
00:32:41.000sunday they keep doing more tongues they keep doing the tongues and it's so i'm like david so
00:32:47.080i've been telling him calm down calm down it's okay like it's fine like this is kind of normal
00:32:52.720bear with and then they did the clown thing and i'm like look at me look at me defending this
00:32:58.660and then and as if to as if to throw it in my face yeah and go how about some clowns and then
00:33:04.160later on, by the way, as I'm leaving,0.91
00:33:06.520because I admittedly left church early
00:59:13.080are we back you're back now here we go love it no we when we clicked remove on one of your screens
00:59:24.100it kicked us out of the the stream for whatever reason and we had to jump back in real fast oh
00:59:28.460snap um but brenna in the chat brought something up she said um that liberty isn't freedom like
00:59:34.680they're not correct thing and so like something that all this i mean even if you go with the
00:59:39.540concept of, like, freedom or, like, liberty, I guess I don't know the difference off the top of
00:59:44.740my head. But something I've wrestled with, you know, like, as Christians, we're called that we
00:59:49.560are slaves to Christ, right? Like, that's what a Christian is. It's someone who has made Christ
00:59:55.080Lord. But this whole idea of freedom, the whole idea of the American dream, the whole idea of,
01:00:00.100like, do what thou wilt, I mean, that's Crowley, right? I mean, that's Thelema, that's Levain
01:00:07.620And Satanism, that is the root of sin.
01:00:12.180And so, like, we've kind of backdoored that into the American dream, where it's really like that concept is of Satan at its heart.
01:00:20.480We are, yeah, free in Christ, but only within the confines of what our Lord calls us to do, right?
01:00:28.260So, when you throw the freedom thing out there as, like, the pinnacle of all things to be achieved, you're really seeking yourself, not Christ.
01:10:44.580If you're not covered in the blood of Christ, a lot of horrifying things can happen to you.0.99
01:10:48.640People are affected on a regular basis, on a daily basis, by spiritual warfare.
01:10:55.620And they have no idea what's happening.0.99
01:10:57.500so yeah that entire thing of of live and let live sounds aggressive when i say that's bullshit0.99
01:11:03.800live and let live is bullshit because if you live in a town and every friday a coven of witches is0.99
01:11:10.400getting together and having a meeting you're you're gonna have uh you know a problem you should0.99
01:11:15.460have a problem with that oh here is my uh my cigar if you guys want to pull that up on the stage
01:11:19.480but um or remove us all yeah you know it's it's you know honestly i saw somebody say something0.98
01:11:29.220that i think is more uh don't read my follow-up thing where i fuck out of my face the lord
01:11:35.180protects this block um but what i think is more likely if it wasn't such a specific thing0.91
01:11:40.560you know because it is a very specific thing a nail in a cigar is a very specific spell um
01:11:46.720you know, Google had no problem being like, Oh yeah, dude, that's a thing. But also I think
01:11:51.400maybe there's some room for people just trying to, uh, cheat the weight on their cigars. You
01:11:56.520know, if like, if you're in the factory and you're trying to like, you know, scam a little bit,
01:12:00.540not use too much tobacco, you can kind of put a nail in your cigar and that might throw the
01:12:05.120weight off a little bit. I, you know, who knows, um, cutting corners is what I'm getting at. But,
01:12:09.960yeah, I mean, that idea of live and let live works really well until you have people astral
01:12:17.260projecting into your home or until you have people cursing you and casting spells and all
01:12:24.080these different things. If we lived in specifically a materialistic, strictly physical realm,
01:12:30.640then maybe that principle would be okay. But that's not the realm that we live in.
01:12:35.980yeah for sure for sure yeah i think it's a lie that you know you do you and nothing that you do
01:12:44.540affects me like every action has a consequence outside of ourselves yeah and and i mean the
01:12:51.500butterfly effect is kind of a thing right yeah like you you kind of set off a chain reaction
01:12:55.880one sin sets off a chain reaction of other sins generally right and not just within yourself
01:13:01.120exactly exactly it emanates outward yeah now i do have a question okay now we we have top i think
01:13:07.640you originally texted me like hey here are the two things or three things i think we should
01:13:11.620address and we can go other directions so we've gone other directions yes we have we're an hour
01:13:17.260and 13 minutes in and we want to address the three things is that what you're saying well we kind of
01:13:20.800already talked about some of them like i mean so we brought up the the alberino thing and i think
01:13:24.860that's awesome like that like you guys have you know squashed the beef like that's awesome um
01:13:31.160what happened why did we do it uh i i felt suddenly moved to and so i did it was very fast
01:13:38.180right we were just joking i was like you should call him i said yeah and then he did and i was
01:13:41.780like shit he called him yeah yeah so i'm trying to get better at that i think the well that day0.87
01:13:46.800you tweeted pray for your enemies and i then i said no you said no yeah and i do believe in0.99
01:13:51.420praying for your enemies i think that um if you have something that you want done and you're
01:13:56.260praying for uh the process is expedited when you pray for your enemies i feel like things happen a
01:14:02.120lot faster in the spiritual realm when you do that but um it was crazy like i like you just
01:14:06.560apologize like hey listen man i know it's been like maybe four months of me just brutally brutally
01:14:12.120brutally brutally memeing you saying it got rough really horrible things it got rough and he goes
01:14:18.220he just goes hey man water under the bridge and i was like that's really yeah honestly i still
01:14:24.600don't agree with anything i agree with i agree with 90 of what he says i don't agree with him
01:14:29.060meeting up with government spooks the things i don't agree with that he says i still don't like
01:14:34.980but a dude that could just be like hey it's like if we had a fist fight right and then after it'd
01:14:40.580be like pick up my tooth or something and i give you a pound you're like yo that's the best piece
01:14:45.020yeah that's the best it's like that's what kind of what happened there and i was like that like
01:14:48.700a fight where somebody reaches down and picks up the other guy and goes like we're done all right
01:14:52.580we're good hey man take it easy yep and like whoa i mean that's legitimately admirable dude like i
01:14:57.940mean good on him good on you i mean that's you guys handled that well i mean i'm glad it it went
01:15:04.280the way it did dude that one's been heavy on my heart too lately has it really that you brought
01:15:08.520forgiveness well not not oh not alberino i was like dude that was weighing on you i i haven't
01:15:15.740been beefing with alberino i got a couple of fun jokes out there but i think that just a couple i
01:15:19.500think that episode might have been either my first or second india oh my god that's not what we do
01:15:25.780at all like just the peak of chaos yeah um but um no i mean dude me and jason well i'll start here
01:15:34.340This week, we literally started a series at the church on forgiveness.
01:15:38.980So it was really odd that you brought that up.
01:15:41.180But it's also been something heavy on my heart, dude, because me and Jason, like for the last, I don't know, last year was like the worst year of ministry for us.
01:16:27.800I'm in a weird situation where honestly I think I did everything right on my
01:16:31.300But at the same time, I know there was hurt. And so I've tried to wrestle with, like, how do you bring forgiveness when, one, you're in the right, but also you don't want them to hate you. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's harder to try and bring that up at all. You know, like, so, dude, kudos to you, I guess, is what I'm saying, because that's a really big step.
01:16:55.780I think that forgiveness is, is, um, it's a one-sided thing.
01:17:22.640It was a lot of fun. But then there were some points where I legitimately was like, I don't know, maybe he said something or just did something.
01:17:32.660I'm just like, I don't I don't like this guy. Yeah. And then you start to be like, I actually think I hate this guy.
01:17:38.960And I'm like, I don't really know this guy. I don't know him at all. And we're communicating online.
01:17:43.520And he's even though I'm winning the exchanges here, he's he's aggravated me.
01:17:49.600And on Nephilim Desco, we say at the end of every show, you're having fun.
01:22:26.280I don't know if I was right to not do that, but it just felt I didn't ask anybody.
01:22:31.020But now that you're you're mentioning that, I'm like, yeah, yeah, that like that just felt like the thing to do until I was able to let go of that.
01:22:38.780And eventually I did like meet up with that pastor again.
01:22:41.700I forgave him, even though I think he was wrong.
01:22:44.620And then we spoke and it was cool and squash.
01:29:59.540And Blue Letter Bible is a great tool.
01:30:01.280Guys, if you're out there and you're looking for a great tool to read the Bible and get the original meaning of words in Hebrew and Greek and all the context in which a word was used throughout the Bible, it's actually really fantastic.
01:30:13.460a blue letter bible check it out guys don't kill them i don't even remember what i was saying oh
01:30:17.260yeah comedy comedy comedy in the bible people don't get they don't get what we're doing actually
01:30:22.780it leads to something that i had with my mom recently yeah she was asking me about bohemian
01:30:27.120grove and she goes we had an option to do it in a theater or this place that we did we're doing it
01:30:32.500now it's a little bit bigger and i told her we had you know a bad thing with theaters you see that
01:30:37.380that poster behind me there we got that one behind me there no no this one specifically we got kicked
01:30:42.400out of an entire town uh and the theater that was yeah i know he's like he's like who did you bring
01:30:49.400me they wrote articles about us uh and those articles actually were not accurate and if they
01:30:54.340were accurate i would say they were accurate they were yeah they were it was nonsense like
01:30:58.220mischaracterized it wasn't because of what we fall out of their second show they ran over that
01:31:04.260theater oh yeah that's right there was a huge falling out are we just like bad what's up with
01:31:09.980us are we the baddies are we the problem okay so here's what i appreciate about you guys you asked
01:31:17.440me this the first time we met all right you were like why would a pastor listen to our show
01:31:21.060i want you to know the first now listen i heard you guys because you were on sam tripoli at some
01:31:26.620point yeah and like long like this was like a year and a half ago i ended up listening to the show
01:31:31.940and i just remember like immediately being like why am i listening to this i don't listen to
01:31:38.500anything remotely like this but then it's like laced in between all of the irreverent terribleness
01:31:46.120is absolute truth being dropped and it's all completely transparent and real and it's not a
01:31:54.120show and you guys aren't fake and you know what a lot of christians are and when christians are
01:32:00.760transparent it's fake transparency it's like calculated transparency where we only take it
01:32:06.920so far and yours is real and i latched onto it instantly and i recognize the fact that you guys
01:32:13.240are comedians first and then you've kind of like i understand you guys have like been in the church
01:32:18.900for well top you were raven yours is more recent right correct yes but like you guys are both kind
01:32:24.920of new to this whole like actually finding your footing in christ like i've watched you guys grow
01:32:30.740a ton over the last year and i'm not saying that like i've got some kind of moral superiority over
01:32:35.140you but like you're my brothers in christ and i want to see you grow and i want to see everybody
01:32:39.780grow and i've seen it and i want to say that like thank you while you guys are wild you're a whole
01:32:46.400lot less wild than you were a year and a half ago actually here's here's the testament to that the
01:32:51.120last time we were on tinfoil hat jason must be like what were they like they had to censor 140
01:32:55.800some odd words this time they said it was less it was less so so markedly because we were just
01:33:01.940on tinfoil hat very recently actually statistically better like you could actually measure that
01:33:06.320yeah that's actually yeah that's a measurable improvement um you know what i i don't have a
01:33:12.260problem uh i i don't feel the need to defend or protect myself you know and i don't think i'm uh
01:33:19.700in in any disillusions about my my terribleness um and i think that in some ways that should be more
01:33:26.880um potent when i tell you that i believe in jesus christ like i can tell you about the
01:33:34.800conspiracies and i could also be a terrible person and the problem is when i tell you i
01:33:40.820believe in jesus christ and jesus is the way the truth in the life that the son of the living god
01:33:44.620did come and die for our sins that our god is a god of forgiveness and that salvation has been
01:33:51.000the the way has been paved already all we need to do is is accept it it's given by grace not
01:33:56.500through works or anything else when i say all that stuff and you go well you you're not like
01:34:04.460in with a church a lot of christians don't like you um and he says it too you know so so it's like
01:34:13.860where's the benefit here and it's like it's not about benefit it's because it's true it must be
01:34:20.120true because i'm not reaping the benefits of being like in a church i'm not reaping the benefits of
01:34:26.260being in the christian community i'm not reaping the benefits of conspiracy theorists don't like
01:34:30.280me because i believe in christ uh christians don't like me because i i i curse and i i have
01:34:35.360a bunch of conspiratorial ideas um you know even people in the comedy realm think that it's gay
01:34:41.320that i that i believe in christ like i'm not really winning in the comedy realm well for the
01:34:45.720people in the comedy realm for the previous show that i did where uh zach is saying that i was way
01:34:50.980worse they were like dude you're horrific and they're in the comedy realm yeah like legitimate
01:34:57.160stand-up comedians that you would go to clubs and see were like hey dial it back yeah now these
01:35:04.840these convictions right believing in christ there is a conviction and there is not it's i want to
01:35:09.900explain it's not it's not a dialing i wasn't doing it to uh be like how how offensive can i be like
01:35:17.740i'm doing a thing because i'm like okay here are lines that you've drawn for everybody to be and
01:35:22.000this is around covet time especially and i was like we're not going to stand in those lines
01:35:25.880and it's the job of people that are either funny or brave to push back so if you draw that line
01:35:32.160and then that line hurts everybody right because then you're only like the regular person is five
01:35:37.960standard deviations below me and in terms of what that what they'd say and seven degrees of
01:35:43.380separation from kevin bacon at every moment any moment yeah so it's it's our job to touch the
01:35:51.280rails and and push that a little bit so that way those guys that are just living regular can
01:35:56.620actually speak a little bit more freely and then you continue to push on that but when you do that
01:36:01.300you become a bad person because you start to explore the like it's mostly language but you're
01:36:07.400exploring these ideas that are outside of the norm and i have to be allowed to explore that
01:36:12.040now I become a bad person because other people look at it and go that's unorthodox the way you're
01:36:17.100approaching that whole situation and I don't like how that sounds and I go you'll thank me for that
01:36:22.080later yeah because later on I mean you see it evident now right like the stuff that we were
01:36:27.820talking about before is just this conspiracy theorist people are now talking about correct
01:36:32.020um a great example a reason why we got kicked out of Leesburg that guy right there Owen Benjamin
01:36:36.040where's he at there point to his face owen benjamin um kicked out of hollywood and polite
01:36:41.960society in general for telling his i think it was his or his friend's uh agent that they shouldn't
01:36:50.040tee their kids you could fill you know hormone therapy yeah make him a different gender he was
01:36:56.300kicked out and gone uh not allowed to do this and then i don't know three years ago dave chapelle's0.75
01:37:02.300on netflix doing his lgbtq joke you know the l's do this and the b's do this word for word on
01:37:09.960netflix to the tunes of millions of dollars where owen can't he couldn't do that on so you understand
01:37:15.380he was debanked he was debanked from paypal for like doing these things but realistically it's
01:37:20.400the truth and it draws him off grid right yeah yeah dude is like a you know has his own farm
01:37:25.860and his own community and you know this is he had to do all that because but he was ostracized it
01:37:30.560was necessary and that's also his job as a comedian to push against this stuff and really
01:37:35.380spread that out and give some room for people to talk freely but when people aren't doing that put
01:37:40.400the ostrich down ostracized uh they get ostracized from society and it's not it's not great uh yeah
01:37:47.040that's you know what's interesting though is the people that think that we're terrible it is just
01:37:52.340based off of the things that we're willing to say it's not evident that we're terrible in our own
01:37:57.080life. In fact, it's, it's, it's the opposite. I mean, we're both just, uh, husbands, fathers,
01:38:04.100we're, we don't have an exciting, I don't have an exciting life. I go home, I don't do drugs.
01:38:10.400I'll have a cigar with a nail in it and a whiskey on the weekends. Um, but otherwise, you know,
01:38:17.500I don't even do that. I don't, that was the last time I had a drink. I don't even remember,
01:38:21.240but you know that even, even for all my rhetoric around, and this might be shocking to some of
01:38:25.540the audience but sometimes i've said some things about black people um and would you happen to
01:38:30.840know that this saturday or friday i was sat at a light and uh as a bunch of black teenagers their
01:38:38.600their car died and it was you helped them because you felt bad well i i i'm stopped at the red light
01:38:44.760i did the timing and i was like i think i could make it and i jumped out of the driver's seat and
01:38:48.920i ran and i i started pushing their car they said they said thank you um and i pushed it into the
01:38:55.520the gas station with him and then i managed to get back in my car all before the light
01:38:59.160turned green really i bring that story up to say uh i'm so out of shape i thought i thought i was
01:39:07.820gonna die like i got back in the car and i was like i couldn't even talk dude the problem is
01:39:13.420you have like one less bone in your foot that is the problem it was really hard but but i'm just
01:39:18.240saying like i wanted to talk about comedy in the bible and you guys will probably disagree with me
01:39:22.720But the point of what I was saying is that my my mom was saying I was saying we got kicked out of the town.
01:39:27.840So we're going to do a different venue. And she goes, well, you guys are doing this show now and it's not going to be wild like last time.
01:39:33.960And I go, yeah, not necessarily. So we don't have much to worry about as far as cancellation goes.
01:39:38.920But I'm like, it's going to be, you know, still comedy. Well, we do comedy.
01:39:42.080And she goes, how can it be comedy? And I go, well, we're going to do a Bible study, but it's going to be funny.
01:39:47.920And she goes, what's so funny about the Bible?
01:39:50.380And I was like, a lot of things are funny to me about the Bible.
01:52:50.860I did post it, and I thought it was me as the doctor.
01:52:54.260And it had to do with Red Cross as a Red Cross worker there, which we support.
01:52:58.720And only the fake news could come up with that one.
01:53:02.140So I had just heard about it, and I said, how did they come up with that?
01:53:08.300It's supposed to be me as a doctor making people better.
01:53:11.460and i do make people better i make people a lot better oh my god you know what no no where's the
01:53:20.040white coat are you a doctor from the biker no no i'm taking it she does not have a red sash are
01:53:30.800you a doctor from i'm taking i'm taking the opposite view i believe him i believe everything
01:53:36.840he says this is poor this is pure boomer slop i love it dude okay this is what you go to your
01:53:43.580your father your uncle whoever go to some anybody on facebook that's using that right now they will0.99
01:53:48.420post the dumbest ai shit and not realize what's in it so like again plausible deniability from0.99
01:53:54.020mr president i believe him well here let's bring it up on the stage one more time i just want to1.00
01:53:58.700everybody before we get out of here to look at a picture there you go here is donald trump as a
01:54:03.420doctor as a doctor as a doctor clearly a doctor he got his stethoscope and it's just so sterile
01:54:10.800it's gleaming and every shining off of every doctor i've been to has you know glowing miraculous
01:54:16.300healing powers some might say that he was trying to be the great physician the great physician
01:54:24.080honestly this could also be like one of those like we we covered the the euphemism idea you
01:54:31.800guys familiar with that you know what euphemisms are yeah like they say scholars but they mean oh
01:54:37.420yeah yeah so doctors but they mean antichrist oh okay yeah it could be one of those it's just a
01:54:42.460euphemism for the antichrist doctor honestly um hard time with them it's it's the funniest
01:54:49.660that's the funniest thing to say like to go like i thought i was a doctor right you guys are clearly0.99
01:54:55.960stupid and liars oh my god they've lied so much in the past news here's the deal it's media yeah1.00
01:55:02.300we're fake well yeah i mean yeah well that's fun i get wow yeah i haven't been that before1.00
01:55:07.460leave it up to the fake news to say such a thing well i it just sucks because he's normally better
01:55:14.180at that kind of pr thing than that like that was bad no it's just we're at the stage in the game
01:55:19.980where it doesn't matter anymore and they could say whatever they want it's israel it's honestly
01:55:24.140i will blame i'm gonna blame israel not necessarily it's when israel gets involved
01:55:29.040with these things benjamin netanyahu made that image these people who are usually better have0.85
01:55:33.260a better way of like snaking around stuff and now they're got to be like yeah i like killing kids in
01:55:37.580schools like that's yeah yeah of course i do there's no real reason there's no real reasoning
01:55:42.340behind their logic by the way he just said it recently he goes um uh they call jesus king do
01:55:47.800you know they call me king sometimes they call me king it's like he's he's already doing that he's
01:55:52.200not going to heaven he's like i'm not a heaven guy he goes uh beautiful christians i loved christians
01:55:56.460i'm not a christian he does he's already crossed that line a million times it should be getting
01:56:02.540harder and harder for the for the actual christians who have stuck with him thus far
01:56:07.240to continue to do so right it should be getting harder and harder if you believe in that
01:56:12.020again um one of his comments earlier in the in the i don't know three hours ago in this
01:56:18.000uh was uh he mentioned something about um how the other side is always throwing stuff out there
01:56:26.360you know and here's trump going nah it's just a doctor right um so that when they do make the
01:56:31.720actual claim it's not as ridiculous yeah as the first time yeah if you believe in that that
01:56:39.160conspiratorial principle of um they have to tell you which i don't know if they if they have to
01:56:43.840tell you but it seems like they're always doing something like revealing their plan ahead of time
01:56:47.840um i think there might be something to that you know if you want to say that it should become
01:56:52.460glaringly obvious to christians that it's time to get off the boat um you you may cross a line
01:56:58.900where you could turn to somebody and say like you had every possible sign to get off the boat
01:57:06.480this guy gave you a million chances and um yeah i mean this is one of them when he explicitly said
01:57:13.960he's not a christian well explicitly maybe is a little bit um not accurate he did it in such a
01:57:19.460way that the only real tell it was like is the blue is the dress blue or white remember that
01:57:24.720whole thing um it was like that moment in grove gonna happen or not happen or when or where
01:57:30.440that kind of it's very much like that it's exactly like that it's schrodinger's brohemian
01:57:34.760grove uh just by an act of showing up to a location and looking determines whether or not
01:57:40.560there um but yeah i mean it was such a strange moment that the only tell that was there was when
01:57:46.300he was shaking his head no there was a physical shaking of his head no he said i'm not a christian
01:57:51.180and people go back and forth they're like he said he is a christian and people on the other side
01:57:55.280will say he said he's not a christian way but the head down what's that he's a universe even even
01:58:01.360like the the group he grew up with it's a universalist sect like uh johnny appleseed was
01:58:06.640a Swedenborgian um it's it's a cult like it's yeah even his connections with Christianity
01:58:12.760are suspect yeah is what I'm saying yeah yeah that's how it goes so I don't know uh0.96
01:58:17.940faster right yeah yeah it's gonna be exciting though whatever comes next they got clowns in0.83
01:58:23.140the White House probably just regular clowns not dressed up uh they were on the lawn with
01:58:27.840their shirts off last year remember that oh yeah yeah pretty cool being that we are at that point
01:58:33.760i i want to ask the question are are you guys having fun no there you go no yeah dude i'm
01:58:41.440having a ton of fun man every day i um my spirit is light timothy alberino and i are friends oh
01:58:47.700yeah life is good yeah yeah every day it's amazing to even think that we're allowed to do this um
01:58:54.500and that we're allowed to have any success at all um i don't think we're allowed to do this though
01:58:58.940we just do it no but i mean like i don't think that it's a random set of circumstances that
01:59:06.780puts us in these chairs and has us have conversations with people like you guys um i think
01:59:12.020that um we have been and you know maybe some people will disagree but i think nephilim death
01:59:18.020squad does serve the kingdom of god and i think that every day i'm pumped that i'm able to serve
01:59:25.180in that capacity it's a crazy thing that that i'm able to sit in this chair and do that that i could
01:59:30.160be in the studio that i can have conversations like this and so like every day like yeah dude
01:59:34.640yeah i'm i'm super pumped um even if it stopped tomorrow i would continually look back and be
01:59:41.100like it is so crazy that i got to do that for any amount of time so yeah i'm having fun
01:59:45.720yeah i mean i i 100 believe you guys are being used by god i believe that you guys are reaching
01:59:52.660an audience that I, we can't like, or probably won't. I mean, like, like it's sort of like
01:59:57.980cutting hair. We always say like, Hey, you're going to attract a clientele that is like you
02:00:03.240that likes you. And it's like, I mean, we talked about this the last episode, but I mean, like,
02:00:08.260you know, you, you guys have, have an audience that you're going to reach that most of the
02:00:12.380church never will. And so it's like, dude, keep doing it. Um, and I'll just keep editing videos
02:00:18.940so we can still put them up on youtube well send it to top lobster because he's apparently has time
02:00:24.080to do that so send him send it his way i do i feel i do feel bad but yeah i no don't feel bad
02:00:30.040i like that you guys are you keep it real and you don't you don't fake it i mean that's one of the
02:00:34.220reasons that that uh i mean i i stepped away in august from any type of pay vocational pay from
02:00:41.820the church as a pastor after a few years, 30 years, right? And part of that is that
02:00:48.460when I'm in the church, I don't hear real life. Like, I mean, there were times that I've been
02:00:58.660bivocational over the years. I worked for Apple for a time. Shout out to, yeah. I worked for a
02:01:06.380And the best part of that was being around real people.
02:01:10.260And, you know, there's churches that I've served in over the years that people that I knew for years, never once did I hear what they struggle with in life.
02:01:19.620And so that you guys are transparent, you're real, and you're just out there saying, this is who we are, this is who we're trying to be.
02:01:26.560It feels like more realistic, authentic Christianity than a lot of what I've encountered in my life.
02:01:33.340And so don't keep the comedy, look for the, look for the humor, keep it up.