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00:01:52.180 welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another episode of nephilim death squad i am david lee

00:01:57.920 corvo aka the raven that is top lops of the father of disinformation what's up guys before

00:02:02.000 we get into today's guest i see you don't even have it pulled up dude oh no we're gonna tell

00:02:06.000 you where to find us the place to find us see how i'm giving you time to find us is patreon.com

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00:02:28.340 not rumble fuck rumble uh but that does include the weekly bible studies on wednesday nights we 0.89

00:02:33.840 actually just got done with a bible study and then fapping uh which is fasting and prayer so 0.98

00:02:39.120 that was really cool it's a community driven effort and i hear it's a crazy thing people

00:02:42.440 getting kicked out people getting put in people getting turned around it's the wild west of bible

00:02:46.620 studies that's absolutely for sure but i think there's a thing going around where everyone's

00:02:49.960 making their profile picture into orthodox oh my god that's been so much fun for me so if you go

00:02:54.720 on twitter you'll see and this actually started on the discord bible study everybody has traditional

00:02:59.320 orthodox uh christian artwork as their profile pictures it's them but ai has converted them

00:03:04.940 into artwork so very cool also discount codes off of merchandise from toplobster.com where you will

00:03:10.300 find our merch and you will no longer find tickets to brohemian grove we're going to talk a little

00:03:15.100 bit about that today because we did our recap but we have with us ed mabry because fridays are for

00:03:20.980 the lord and ed was just at brohemian grove with us on stage he was there with the vip day so we're

00:03:27.300 probably going to end up unpacking that a little bit but before we do let's remind everybody ed

00:03:31.680 where can people find your work yeah so they can uh find me i'm like i'm really loud my own ear

00:03:36.700 they can um find me at faithbyreason.net that is my website where i have all my decade plus worth

00:03:44.060 of material there including the spiritual warfare course which is going great i'm hot and heavy

00:03:49.120 there we are in i think month number five of it so we're on defense we're on offense and so yeah

00:03:55.440 it's all my materials the genesis series is there the entire revelation series is there and you can

00:04:01.280 also well let's go to patreon next and then um uh for patreon you go there's patreon.com

00:04:07.500 slash faith by reason and that's where you can be a part of the monthly bible study actually the next

00:04:12.800 session is this coming sunday and we go through the entire bible in 12 months why is that locked

00:04:18.480 doesn't make sense okay uh that might just be from our yeah because because we're um on your

00:04:24.760 patreon as well so this is looking at it from our i'm supposed to be a member of this page

00:04:28.860 yeah i don't know why that's we paid for this ed unbelievable but that's just from our point

00:04:35.560 yeah it shouldn't be locked i don't know why that's happening i was having some weird issues

00:04:38.400 we're gonna talk about some issues i'm oh i see this is this is what you came here to talk about

00:04:42.140 a little bit later the uh spiritual attack we'll talk about that actually next because okay so yeah

00:04:46.680 12 month bible study once a month from the supernatural point of view all new content

00:04:51.000 drops there first q a's and you're part of a community there as well so the other thing that

00:04:56.660 i just dropped uh last night slash this morning is what i've been promising for the last few weeks

00:05:03.000 and that is the spiritual warfare nighttime meditations and we did a show on this the last

00:05:08.820 time i was on with you guys before i traveled to lovely extremely hot and humid florida

00:05:14.880 he's spoiled because he's in california it's very hospitable weather very very very i'll let you

00:05:22.040 know it i had spoke to the jews before you got there yeah we said can we ease up on the humidity

00:05:26.760 no not at all they like the saunas that's just you know well they said they're actually trying 0.53

00:05:31.200 to build up a warm front down here so that they can generate a tropical storm up north a little

00:05:36.020 bit and uh if we did that it would have messed with their whole schedule and you know how the 0.84

00:05:39.900 jews like timekeeping so uh something about the moon i don't know what it was

00:05:43.920 it's all good every place i went had a scene but every time i walked out my glasses would fog up 0.90

00:05:49.360 because it was just like yeah yeah yeah yeah that's the thing that happens out here that you

00:05:53.200 know it was really cool to have you uh my phone fogged up the other day it'll happen yeah if you

00:05:57.580 step out of some i mean i keep i know you say i keep my house on a tropical that's absolutely not

00:06:01.780 true my house is 69 degrees nice and when i open the i like to walk out in the morning make coffee

00:06:08.040 then i open the doors um i'm not allowed to do that anymore because if i open the sliding door

00:06:12.220 to the porch the the the reaction creates uh dew all over the place all my windows fog up and then

00:06:18.660 my wife is afraid of getting my wife is afraid of getting mold so now i'm no longer allowed to do

00:06:23.280 that i go outside and i have my coffees but yeah if you if you step in from one climate to the next

00:06:27.560 it'll fog up everything it's a it's a wild uh little phenomenon yeah it really wasn't i guess

00:06:31.920 the thing i was most surprised about was when i was flying in you know it was coming in like in

00:06:35.800 the evening and i'm just like seeing i've been in florida in a while it's actually been several

00:06:39.320 years and just seeing all like the little lakes bodies of waters i'm like you know yeah eating

00:06:42.940 alive by mosquitoes yeah not a single bite and not not in this season right now no it's very good

00:06:48.620 in the villages does a really good job of uh spraying a lot of poison yeah that's what i was

00:06:53.720 told i was gonna say oh yeah yeah if you were by my house which is right by the villages you would

00:06:58.820 have gotten bit like they're they're no joke out there i'm actually all right where i'm at i like

00:07:02.820 i like flying when you're flying into florida you know when you've crossed the state line because

00:07:06.760 you can feel the humidity in the plane inside the cab starts to get hot you're like damn what

00:07:10.960 happened is rough i i was actually told that that was the second most surprising thing to ed maybe

00:07:16.240 the first was our height uh which i was it was also you know we warned you i was very uh surprised

00:07:23.100 to find that ed is we just keep having tall people on this show i don't like it i can't

00:07:26.680 well i'm not owen benjamin level tall but yeah i'm a little a little tall as an average that's

00:07:30.020 a different thing that's like six two right ed begin you're like six two how tall are you yeah

00:07:35.140 about six six one and a half so i'm almost almost six two every everybody like looking i mean you

00:07:39.220 know that's how it is for us we're looking up to everybody that we invited uh we're gonna do a

00:07:43.740 shorts only no owen no ed uh yeah yeah anyone bohemian grove five uh the lollipop guild

00:07:51.880 and we're only going to have people that are sub five nine thank you very much that made me let me

00:07:58.480 laugh because my my son was the last play he was in for school he was uh my youngest they did

00:08:03.480 wizard of oz and and he was one of the the dude singing the lollipop guild song okay good flashback

00:08:08.100 all right there you go there you go so um i guess before we we get into all this because i know you

00:08:12.460 have a lot to say on uh on the the sort of nighttime meditation aspect we've talked about

00:08:17.880 that a little bit now that it's out of course i want to get into that and seemingly the trouble

00:08:21.300 that you were having getting that done um but i want to talk a little bit about let's let's let's

00:08:26.220 talk about bro grove i mean you know bro grove it was our first time getting to see you in person

00:08:30.440 yeah it was great it was great seeing seeing you guys in person it was awesome after like what

00:08:34.060 almost almost three years yeah of like just virtual just you know seeing you guys in person

00:08:38.480 and the thing is it was it was just natural because i mean i think we've gotten to know

00:08:41.820 each other so well it wasn't like oh these guys are different than i thought no you're exactly

00:08:44.840 what i sorry okay let me rephrase that raven is exactly who i thought he was um yeah top had a

00:08:54.540 little extra going on which which i really appreciated like you know what you're you're

00:08:57.680 you're you're you're a good dude i'll just say that i'm not gonna i don't want to mess up your

00:09:00.360 your on your um your persona your public persona but you keep it faith kayfabe watch what you say

00:09:06.140 yeah we don't want people to know no no it's okay say what you say what you could i'm interested

00:09:10.200 to hear your uh perspective on me because i don't know i'm just doing whatever i do um but online

00:09:16.960 you come up and you are you know just very like you know matter of fact like this is this is the

00:09:20.580 way things are we're going to deal with it this way you know if you don't like you know up yours

00:09:23.500 but also you are very accommodating to to people i mean i can tell that you you really care about

00:09:30.300 not just you know the work you do obviously you put a lot of time and effort into the work you

00:09:34.240 do and it's really it's clear you care but you also like care about making sure everything is

00:09:38.840 in order people wise like you want to make sure that that the people are like are good and that

00:09:43.740 so that's another thing so that you're not just like you know effort you're like you know effort

00:09:48.820 in general but i also want to make sure you also want to make sure that everybody is in the right

00:09:52.880 place at the right time and you really care about keeping things order making sure that everybody is

00:09:57.820 is good and i can tell that about you once you want you want to make sure that everybody was good

00:10:01.020 at all times yeah yeah i guess a high high orderly but on the outside it does look like chaos it does

00:10:07.540 look like but when i was going to get um our our groups on stage i came straight to you and i was

00:10:12.260 like hey man i'm not going to be able to organize these people i'm going to be on stage and i grabbed

00:10:17.120 them by their necks and everybody got in an orderly fashion to to do the round table so i was really

00:10:23.080 pumped but i'm glad that i went to you because it all got done the right way which is fantastic

00:10:27.200 because otherwise very nerve-wracking sitting on stage and wondering is anybody going to show up

00:10:31.780 when i say their name yeah a lot that's a lot of people are wondering and you know david's on stage

00:10:36.000 by himself doing his his thing and uh i i'd honestly i was like i don't even know if i

00:10:40.920 really care to be on stage but like i like doing the stuff making it organized and the stuff behind

00:10:47.500 the scenes and getting the people there and and doing all that stuff so that takes me away from

00:10:52.520 the stage and and the camera which i do think we got to fix that uh you know yeah i don't know but

00:10:57.620 i i feel like that's what i'm good i don't know i don't know whatever it's a mix bag what was

00:11:01.500 really cool ed was seeing the crossovers between all these people who have been on our shows

00:11:08.980 getting to hang out in real life uh i thought that was really fantastic what i'm gonna one of

00:11:14.580 the my favorite parts was the whole meeting jt and then putting the little season thing to the

00:11:20.820 side and just being unified in christ and having you know just watching you guys have great

00:11:24.860 conversations and i thought it was fantastic no i thought it was huge i could tell that again i

00:11:29.640 want to put words just about maybe maybe he didn't feel this way at all but i could tell because he

00:11:32.520 when i first arrived when john and i first got to the studio you were doing you were doing a show

00:11:35.880 with him yeah yeah so and and i i look at john because we're sitting like right in the on the

00:11:40.980 on the outskirts of the uh of the studio and i'm like yeah john that's my that's my nemesis there

00:11:46.040 there he is yep yep but you know it was a joke and then he comes off i could tell he wasn't sure

00:11:51.660 he was exactly what's making me but i'm like dude i'm not here to fight it's not even about that

00:11:55.620 and when we had great conversations this is what i knew was going to happen because he's a good guy

00:11:59.220 And we probably agree on like 95%.

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00:15:22.720 Of everything else, obviously the fundamentals,

00:15:24.900 salvation through Christ, through faith, grace, and all that kind of stuff.

00:15:28.040 But then, you know, there's certain areas where we disagree.

00:15:30.680 Clearly, we disagree on eschatology, on like, you know,

00:15:32.800 where we are vis-a-vis the little season.

00:15:34.240 but that's not a reason to like shun anyone or like have any kind of fight that's that's that's

00:15:40.460 not what it is we we talked about the stuff that we have in common the stuff that we like one thing

00:15:44.520 he was talking about on your show was about um the fight club which is one of my favorite movies

00:15:49.180 yeah and his idea that you know tyler durden was actually a demon who was possessing

00:15:54.240 and that makes a lot of sense and that's the first thing i said to him i'm like dude that's

00:15:57.560 a really cool theory i had not thought about that because i love that movie and that's what we were

00:16:01.040 talking about and like the next day i just came up to myself dude let's do a show together

00:16:05.580 because and talk about the 95 that we have in common we just not talk about the little season

00:16:11.240 stuff everyone knows your position on everyone knows mine we don't need to rehash that but what

00:16:15.960 i think we do need to do is show that christians we're brothers and sisters in christ we're

00:16:21.160 supposed to love one another we're supposed to give to one another and that should be we should

00:16:25.500 be focused on what unites us not what divides us and because that's where all the denominations

00:16:29.980 come into play people have one little sliver of disagreement okay we're leaving your church

00:16:34.380 we're gonna start a whole new one over here where we're gonna dance with serpents in our hands or

00:16:37.820 yeah or whatever or no or you know we only do communion on on saturdays not sundays and the

00:16:42.780 seventh day adventist types all these divisions all these different denominations only occur

00:16:48.220 because of people who disagree about the non-fundamentals whereas we're doing the

00:16:52.780 opposite of what jesus said so i want people to see that two people who disagree on this very

00:16:58.060 hot controversial topic can actually come together and have a a good dialogue i think people need to

00:17:04.000 see that because there is so much hostility on both sides of this debate i think a lot of it is

00:17:09.300 the the fan base uh the listeners you know they push a lot of the conversation without you guys

00:17:15.340 having it yeah it's strange it's an interesting phenomenon because they do want to see can they'd

00:17:20.340 like to see contention and i think that's because partly what we're doing especially on nephilim

00:17:25.040 death squad like it is entertainment right and we are entertaining people to a large degree

00:17:29.360 what we're doing also is opinion yeah opinion so it gets kind of messy because people want to see

00:17:34.360 you know certain things when they watch entertainment but i thought that the entire

00:17:38.120 thing was i set out to do something very particular with this one that i think

00:17:42.000 hopefully stood in stark contrast to the last one and that stark contrast maybe is more

00:17:48.320 representative of where we are in our entire journey on this show than it is just about the

00:17:53.600 live performances and we are in a different place than where we were about a year ago um after bro

00:17:59.800 grove three and so i i was interested in getting these people together and i was interested in

00:18:06.500 glorifying the lord and what was fascinating is that that came out of it i mean the little season

00:18:11.760 thing if we're being very honest is super contentious it is super contentious it's been

00:18:16.540 super contentious we found ourselves we made artwork uh we found ourselves kind of at the

00:18:22.540 heart of the conversation for periods of this show's history so to be able to come together

00:18:27.580 and say um i want this bohemian grove to be much more focused on scripture much more focused on

00:18:33.100 the lord and then to have that be the fruits of it which is like the little season hatchet gets

00:18:37.920 buried i think it's huge yeah i mean and honestly it's it's it's so far my review mirror i mean i've

00:18:43.300 done my show that did the debates i'm not doing debates for gay i don't want to do any more

00:18:47.100 debates amen because i was i was talking to to bennis bennis the menace oh yeah who we also say

00:18:54.340 again very interesting character very very interesting character good guy we actually

00:18:58.980 had a really good conversation um on the night after the main broke rope we were back at the

00:19:03.820 at the brownwood in the um near the coffee shop um but you know he has very strong opinions about

00:19:09.560 the dispensationalism and you know darby and ci schoolfield and all that kind of stuff which

00:19:14.580 don't align and with necessarily not not about sculpted or darby i don't really care about them

00:19:18.860 but apart as far as that so we have different eschatological views about you know how dispensations

00:19:24.080 work and he you know said you know do you do you want to have like a friendly debate i'm like i'm

00:19:27.880 not doing debates anymore i would love to be on your show and by the way shout out to dennis if

00:19:31.500 you're if you're uh dennis if you're listening i did get your email i'm going to get back to you

00:19:35.320 i've just had so much stuff going on i'll be talking about in a few minutes but i did get

00:19:38.940 it and i want to acknowledge it because i want to do a show with him yeah and i said you know

00:19:42.060 instead of a debate how about this we let's try to understand each other because we're not agreement

00:19:47.100 is agreement is boring i don't need to agree with you but what i want to do is i want to understand

00:19:50.940 you so i want to understand your position to the point where i can repeat it back to you to your

00:19:54.860 satisfaction you understand my position to the point you can repeat it back to me at my satisfaction

00:19:59.340 now we understand each other understanding each other is way more important than agreeing because

00:20:04.220 i don't agree with anyone on it on everything neither should anyone i mean i've had i talk a

00:20:08.940 a lot about the two mentors who were the most influential on my Christian walk, which is

00:20:12.860 Michael Heiser and Chuck Misler. I didn't agree with them on certain things. And these are men

00:20:18.400 who are like, you know, in my Mount Rushmore of like Christian, of Christianity. And I didn't 0.84

00:20:24.420 even agree with them. I disagree with them on some things, some things, but what's most important is

00:20:28.420 I agree with him on 99% of everything. Right. Yeah. Sparrow is actually in the chat and she

00:20:33.760 goes sounds like a debate and then she goes sounds like what debate used to be right so i think that 0.88

00:20:39.860 is accurate a debate has turned into more of a shit flinging fest and it's about creating viral 0.74

00:20:45.960 sensational clippable moments and it's about uh presenting your case in such a way as to win over

00:20:52.660 the audience or to just win so my understanding of debate has changed especially after a brief

00:20:57.940 conversation with dr heather lynn on the phone because she's going to be debating uh james

00:21:02.140 williams of dark waters very soon and uh and i put the two of them in contact with one another

00:21:07.920 because i think some really fantastic fruit can come from that you know that interaction

00:21:12.240 are we actually lucky enough to like kind of set that up yeah yeah yeah someone from dark

00:21:17.880 waters reached out to me i need to respond to them because they want me to talk yeah dude that

00:21:22.560 is so great a hundred percent we had mentioned you a couple times that's probably wes and and

00:21:27.880 And yeah, I would go with that.

00:21:29.940 You guys are going to have a fantastic conversation.

00:21:33.040 That was going to be great.

00:21:34.600 But she said that the idea of debate is supposed to be you bring these opposing ideas and and you sort of almost smash them together.

00:21:42.460 And then you trim all the excess off.

00:21:44.800 And what you're left is this synthesis of ideas that is more representative of the truth than either one was on their own previously.

00:21:51.920 And that to me sounds like you care more about the truth than you care about winning.

00:21:56.740 right and i think it's the issue with debate as we see it right now it's a blood well they describe

00:22:01.780 it as blood sports yeah so people are going to win and it's like that's not synonymous with the

00:22:07.280 truth you winning has very little to do with the truth uh it is very much like the court of law

00:22:12.660 where someone who is innocent could easily you know win a jury over and and and you know uh

00:22:18.440 basically sending them to jail right there's plenty of people who have uh not committed the

00:22:24.320 crime and are doing life and you know the inverse is also look at that look at that round table i

00:22:28.620 love that crazy what a great great picture yeah these this episode is going to be dropping soon

00:22:33.960 i'm excited for that but like man yeah so i mean the group of people it's insane i would love to

00:22:39.980 see conversations between you and bennis the menace i would love to see more ideas that are

00:22:46.560 in opposition coming to the table and just having thoughtful discussions where you actually treat

00:22:52.080 the person as you would want to be treated yeah um and then i think what that does is it really 0.99

00:22:56.680 facilitates the ability to to find the truth in the end not this stupid thing man where you show 0.96

00:23:01.500 up and you're just there to win and it's not about the truth i want to prove myself right 0.98

00:23:05.120 dude if then that's how you're always going to be wrong we talked before about contrastive thinking

00:23:08.600 contrastive thinking is me trying to prove yourself wrong trying to see okay how can you be

00:23:12.460 right yes speaking of your opponent okay here's i want to understand you here's how you could be

00:23:16.520 right and that's the only way to be more right is to see where you're wrong and like when you

00:23:20.380 when you brought that picture up,

00:23:21.220 one of the,

00:23:21.560 um,

00:23:21.780 the demon racers,

00:23:22.600 is it,

00:23:23.400 uh,

00:23:23.780 Brian,

00:23:24.400 Brian.

00:23:24.940 Yeah.

00:23:25.160 Good.

00:23:25.320 Cause I was almost calling him David.

00:23:26.280 Yeah.

00:23:26.440 Brian,

00:23:26.820 he and I had some really interesting conversation.

00:23:29.220 That guy is,

00:23:30.000 it knows a ton of stuff.

00:23:31.240 He is great.

00:23:32.760 I think a lot of stuff to it.

00:23:34.220 So he might,

00:23:35.000 I don't know if he does or not.

00:23:35.880 I mean,

00:23:36.080 he's got usually some sort of,

00:23:37.480 uh,

00:23:38.020 backing to show where he's getting his ideas from.

00:23:40.220 And,

00:23:40.420 and,

00:23:40.720 uh,

00:23:40.980 but they're just so wild and crazy,

00:23:43.120 but he's,

00:23:43.680 he's fantastic.

00:23:44.700 When I first met him,

00:23:45.640 it's like right after I did,

00:23:46.620 i think the second show with john and i and you two um i say hey man how you doing good to meet

00:23:50.760 you he's like yeah you know we disagree on on a lot i'm like okay but i don't know if he was

00:23:54.420 expecting if i'm like i'm not i'm here to fight i want to listen and that's what i did i listened

00:23:57.540 to and i think that really i don't say disarguement i think he didn't know if i'd be open

00:24:02.480 to things that you know that that maybe i i don't we don't see eye to eye on i'm like no i want to

00:24:07.580 hear about it so he was like just you know pouring out all this information um you know about you

00:24:12.540 know epistemology and entomology and all these different things with language which i thought

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00:27:03.840 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it and i might think okay i need i need to

00:27:09.340 look more into that because i had i had not heard that which is great i'm getting new information

00:27:13.040 so i'm not going to say you're wrong like saying i'm going to say no let me know what you think

00:27:17.480 let me understand where you're coming from and then i can investigate that's what we should be

00:27:22.100 doing? We should be like what Paul said about the Bereans in Acts. He said they receive everything

00:27:26.640 with an open mind, but then they would check the scriptures daily to see if they were true. So you

00:27:30.840 receive it. You receive things from your brothers and sisters in Christ, and then you examine

00:27:36.580 scripture. Yeah. I think that what you're talking about is exactly what I had hoped to see. And

00:27:41.860 honestly, I think it went better than I thought it would getting together all these people.

00:27:46.560 I think it varied. I mean, I think it all went very good, but I did have an interesting time

00:27:51.360 As I'm running around the room, I was I was very sneakily watching, especially day one, like VIP and day one of the, you know, whatever was going on there the day before.

00:28:01.660 I'm watching it.

00:28:02.800 I'm watching how they all behave. 1.00

00:28:04.040 And it's funny to see people like out of their element, like out of their element, but you're in a foreign space.

00:28:10.660 I'm very familiar with this space, like the coffee shop.

00:28:13.520 Oh, yeah, we're comfy here. 0.99

00:28:14.660 Yeah, just immediately people walking in, they're already kind of like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:28:18.320 Because David designed it like a maniac. 0.91

00:28:19.740 and that's fun because it takes it takes that person like i guarantee you there's some people

00:28:26.140 uh jt probably was one of them he's like i'm gonna go in there i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do that 0.86

00:28:30.900 i'm gonna do this it's like you're not doing any of those things this shit is weird everything is 0.77

00:28:35.140 strange here you're coming to a strange land and we're gonna be fucking friends yeah and yeah he 0.95

00:28:39.100 came in and everyone's friends and i i could i from what i got from jt i really like him but 0.88

00:28:44.340 he's a dude that it seems like he's like i don't know about like some people he's a little bit yeah

00:28:48.160 and i get that like you have to be a reserved person like this person might be after you but

00:28:52.440 like putting him in a situation where it's like okay everyone's here everyone's here and

00:28:58.060 talk yeah and and you could see his walls come down by like you know the end of the first night

00:29:03.880 we had dinner with him and then afterwards it's like and then you also and i'm like when you came

00:29:08.640 in i could see you were like what the like you like what is this strange place yeah yeah but then

00:29:13.820 by the brownwood uh meet up toward the end ed was like oh he's a little more comfortable it's like

00:29:20.220 it's just it's a strange thing for everybody not for me because i've done this now four times yeah

00:29:24.700 this is number four and it's just like kind of like yeah we know this is how this is psychotic

00:29:29.740 it's psychotic this is what we're supposed to do man i think we're supposed to get together we're

00:29:33.340 supposed to talk to each other matt sat outside to talk the little season with uh jt for an hour

00:29:39.020 hour and a half i just like i like how it has i remember how i felt when you're in a like a

00:29:44.260 conference like that and there's all the people that you used to talk to talk to and all this

00:29:47.800 and now we're kind of like david you two you're outside of it a little bit because we're doing

00:29:52.300 an event yeah we've already been desensitized to this and we have to work we're in a work capacity

00:29:57.160 we're working yeah but i still get to appreciate other people going like oh this is like watching

00:30:02.600 watching characters like ed and brian from demon erasers and uh owen benjamin and all these guys

00:30:08.940 stand in a circle and talk cool i'm like that's a crazy and i only get to pass by i'm like i 0.94

00:30:13.220 listen for a second i'm like that's cool psychotic shit yeah yeah yeah yeah so first of all shout 0.59

00:30:20.140 out to standard coffee one i did not say this to matt to x number of t's um but five minimum 0.94

00:30:27.420 five minimum great coffee you know when i when i first you know i'm on west coast time so i was

00:30:35.280 like i went to bed at like i got to sleep at two because i'm still you know i'm still wired

00:30:39.540 you know when i when i get in oh geez and so i needed coffee and i had an ice latte it was it

00:30:45.320 was fantastic really really good quality coffee so i'll have to clip this and pass it on to him

00:30:49.840 doc doc uh brown of the prometheus lens podcast said best caramel macchiato he's ever had in his

00:30:55.360 life caramel macchiato you know what two things one i should have gotten one of those i just got

00:31:00.820 a plain you know latte but um I didn't get I didn't get a chance to talk to him very much I

00:31:05.840 was looking forward to speaking to him and I totally just did not get a chance to there's so

00:31:09.980 many people right I mean it was there was a lot of people that was the thing it was it was

00:31:13.280 because you were you were saying how you know I was kind of you know taken aback by all of it

00:31:18.060 because I mean I'm generally I'm a fairly social person but I think what took what was taking me

00:31:23.400 aback was not so much the amount of people or even the studio per se was you know I just you

00:31:27.920 kind of had to get my bearings and see and see everything but it was really how everyone reacted

00:31:33.120 to me which i was not expecting to me all i see is is the computer in front of me yeah and you

00:31:38.280 know occasional you know someone will come across with a with a comment or whatever but having so

00:31:43.440 many people come up to me and just say you know i really like your work i appreciate what you've

00:31:47.980 done you've really helped me and just like these being live people and not words that i get in an

00:31:52.140 email or a comment somewhere that was overwhelming because i i do this because i love doing it

00:31:58.000 you know i do this because i want to help and but it was people people aren't abstract it's like

00:32:03.060 what uh what uh my buddy of mine said when my wife was first pregnant she says you know what

00:32:08.040 a woman becomes a mother when she's pregnant a man becomes a father the first time he holds his kid

00:32:12.440 because before that it's just abstract it's just i'm sure yeah something my wife's belly it was 0.99

00:32:16.980 just abstract until i actually held the kid held my my son and the the dangerous retards were kind 0.84

00:32:23.300 of they were abstract i knew they were there i get messages from them i really appreciate 0.89

00:32:28.100 we are real people yes yes you do exist you're not bots um that was uh matt felt the same way

00:32:33.420 he's expressed that before where he's like these are just screen names on the internet he's saying

00:32:37.220 it tongue-in-cheek but yeah it's it's a different thing and you know it's weird because like we can

00:32:42.100 we can only tell you so many times yeah there's no way to prepare you for it you can't understand

00:32:46.760 it and uh we've we i don't know if i'm desensitized to it yet i'm not i'm not because when people do

00:32:52.740 come up like they're they're talking to me and it's still kind of like oh oh like really but

00:32:57.740 like we i've done it before so i'm like okay um i know how to handle it i like at least not be

00:33:03.640 as surprised you know where i'm at i'm i'm i'm at a place where i'm desensitized enough

00:33:08.000 that the shock of it doesn't prevent me from appreciating the gratitude of it like the

00:33:13.380 gratitude that i have for these people and and the fact that they even show up in this community

00:33:18.640 that's been built around christ really right i mean you know we're retarded and we're fun and 0.61

00:33:23.200 we do the conspiracies and jokes but that's what this whole thing points back to so this community

00:33:27.540 uh i've gotten to this place now where like before it was like a little bit jarring the the jar is

00:33:34.020 is mostly gone and it's really what it's uncovered is like gratitude in a huge way and being at the

00:33:39.960 front of the library here with you with laura baker and with matt it was really special for me

00:33:46.960 and i know it was special for the audience because i see this all the time in the comments but like

00:33:50.700 those are three people that have been massively impactful in my walk and i'm not the only one

00:33:57.540 much of the audience has been i mean they're all on this journey with us they're just in different

00:34:01.600 places so that same thing is a sentiment that so many of them echo and yeah just to be there

00:34:07.180 and and start the whole experience off with you three talking about god was like that i that's

00:34:14.400 how it should go that's exactly how it should go and and uh i think that was yet you probably did

00:34:19.720 find that a lot of people were saying crazy shit to you like you've been a huge help in my in my

00:34:25.780 you know relationship with god which that's the point it was it was inspiring and it was humbling 0.76

00:34:30.380 and it was it was it was i mean overwhelming in in a sense in a really good sense i want to talk

00:34:35.300 about laura in a minute because this brings up something that when john and i were first driving

00:34:40.560 to the first show and he just said you know he said ed you know because you know john's all he's

00:34:44.320 very goal oriented he's administrator and all that kind of stuff he said you know what is your goal

00:34:47.220 what do you want to get out of this weekend i mean i said i'm looking for confirmation

00:34:52.160 i'm looking for confirmation that the path i'm on is the right path yeah and that and what my

00:34:58.340 path shouldn't be like you know there's different kinds of content creators i mean you guys do a

00:35:01.520 different type of content than I do. You guys are putting out a lot of content and you're doing it

00:35:06.520 one way. I'm more of the, you guys are having people on. I'm a guest. I'm not getting other

00:35:12.840 guests. But I was like, you know, should I go that direction? And so I'm looking for confirmation

00:35:20.700 and I got just a ton of confirmation that this is what God wants me to do like with the rest of my

00:35:28.660 life yeah man yeah i'm glad i'm glad you felt that way because there there's been times where

00:35:34.240 we've gone to a place um but it's good to learn uh and i i love elijah like elijah schaefer just

00:35:40.620 i remember or even like i don't love tim fuck tim like go to but we've met people right along the 0.56

00:35:46.320 way yeah you've met people and you go to places and you and and then i come back home and i go 0.78

00:35:50.480 do i want to do this do i want to do like because like do i want to be that and and the answer is

00:35:56.660 know but then then i go well it doesn't have to be like that you know we don't have to like when i

00:36:01.300 when i make a thing it doesn't have to be like what they did but yeah i could see if i'm like

00:36:05.840 going to for confirmation i'm like is that what that looks like well is this what it is what this

00:36:11.100 thing is and it's it's not so i'm glad we're able to show you like this is what whatever we're doing

00:36:16.800 here is what it could be yeah if people approach it the right way which is like there's not there's

00:36:22.360 not a real um what would you call it scaffolding for what we're doing i mean you know already

00:36:28.740 podcasting itself doesn't have a ton of successful models that you can emulate readily right because

00:36:34.700 the phenomenon is relatively new in comparison to any other occupation it's only 20 years old or

00:36:39.400 something like that i guess maybe less uh and then to do this specific niche that we do which is

00:36:46.520 you know we're building something we're building a podcast for the lord but we're also psychopath

00:36:51.880 you know i'm speaking specifically about me and top here there's not really many people you meet

00:36:56.900 in the space where you can emulate you can take a little bit of what they do and say i wonder how

00:37:01.660 that might apply to what i'm building but let's say you wanted to be in the political space well

00:37:06.600 and i'm not i mean you know maybe it is it's insulting to say but like there is plenty of

00:37:10.700 political grifting podcasts out there where you can look at what they're doing and you can go okay

00:37:15.400 so i get deals with the rnc and i can write articles for the rnc and i can just pretty

00:37:20.900 much parrot whatever talking point is popular within the Republican Party at the time and

00:37:24.720 follow the trends. There's not really like trends to follow here. And thank God, because I don't

00:37:29.900 want to do that. But like what I'm getting at is really in this space, it's like the Holy Spirit

00:37:36.140 is guiding each person that's doing this individually. And that's that's what you sign up

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00:40:26.580 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it i don't know what the hell to tell

00:40:31.620 people to do that well you know what what you just said in a word is you're authentic and like some

00:40:37.060 of these you know political influencers and influencers of all kind they're not authentic

00:40:40.960 like they they don't they're not themselves they are whoever is paying them wants them to be and

00:40:46.380 you can you can tell that that's why i think that you know the currency is authenticity i think

00:40:50.060 people are able now you know as you said this is a relatively new medium yeah and it's changing

00:40:56.180 rapidly but i think what people people can immediately suss out who is fake you really

00:41:01.080 you know who has an agenda and who because you can tell you're not real you just go with however

00:41:06.160 the winds are blowing that's the way you're going you have the same talking points you can see them

00:41:11.680 in a category you have the pro-israel you know the anti-israel you've got the maga people you

00:41:16.300 have the middle republican people you have the you know democrats whatever you have and you know that

00:41:20.660 you're never going to say anything outside of this box you put yourself in you're not going to

00:41:25.300 actually say you know what maybe i'm wrong you know maybe you know maybe hamas is different than

00:41:29.060 i thought maybe you know oh yeah you just got those talking points you got to carry water for

00:41:32.880 right so but my point is people know that but i think people also know with this community

00:41:37.520 they know that you two are real because you have said you know i'm you're trying to find

00:41:43.640 information you're trying to understand things and you're always going to be yourself

00:41:46.440 and one of the things and not that not to bring this guy up as a reference because i think he's

00:41:51.500 just a weirdo but it was that that guy vince who oh yeah yeah weird accent what he said about

00:41:56.320 christianity although i think he's again he's a freak show but one thing he said that was actually

00:42:00.680 poignant about his hesitation and being a part of the church is like, you know, I don't want to be

00:42:05.380 fake. And that's real because when you go to a church, people act a certain way in church. We

00:42:12.100 talk about the trembling voice. We talk about, you know, everyone has to dress a certain way.

00:42:15.420 Everyone has to say the right thing. That's when I, when I talk to Muslims, they say, oh, Jesus,

00:42:20.120 peace be upon him. I'm like, why do you have to say peace be upon him every single time you 0.96

00:42:22.880 mention that? Do you really mean that? Or are you just saying it because you're supposed to say it

00:42:27.480 as a muslim everyone you respect peace be upon him i mean even when people are talking about

00:42:31.280 you don't believe in the truth the true jesus peace be upon him who he doesn't like dude why

00:42:37.260 are you just throwing that in there that's not real just talk to me like a real person that's

00:42:40.780 how you're supposed to do it right that's how it's supposed to be done vain repetition oh right

00:42:44.500 exactly so yeah go ahead no i was just gonna say i mean we're we are being genuine uh i don't think

00:42:51.800 i have the ability to do anything else because i said it multiple times during bro grove like

00:42:55.880 There's not a real filter that goes from my brain to my mouth.

00:42:58.640 So whatever is coming out of it is genuinely what I'm thinking.

00:43:02.620 And you can observe pretty readily that most of what or a lot of what I've done has been against our best interest. 0.92

00:43:09.700 If we wanted to kind of, you know, to Tim Pool's point, he accused Top of burning all of the bridges and because he's too retarded to stop. 0.94

00:43:19.980 In other words, from Tim Pool's vantage point as a businessman, he's looking horrible for business. 0.92

00:43:24.700 is horrible for business right and he's right i mean it is but that's not i'm not trying to build

00:43:29.540 a business i'm trying to uh not play with god you know what i mean like the thing is like

00:43:36.040 if you're if your goal is money you'll get there fast doing what he's doing if your goal is to

00:43:41.380 build the money will come it's going to take a lot longer but like whatever we're in this for

00:43:47.060 the long game right so why would i do so i'm going to build something that goes up fast and i'm going

00:43:50.760 to hate myself for it yeah that's what i was just about to say that top i bet he doesn't like i don't

00:43:54.280 know the guy but i'm betting he doesn't like himself very much i bet he gets up in the morning

00:43:57.340 is like i'm not who i am i have to i've got to put on this mask and pretend to be this thing

00:44:02.180 that i've grown to hate because none of us you know i don't know if my episodes with john and

00:44:07.720 i have aired yet but what we talk about a lot is uniqueness i think we we ended the last uh session

00:44:13.140 that we did talking about the church needs us to be who we are not these not this fake stuff because

00:44:19.600 Because God can't use you that way. You can't grow with other people if you're being disingenuous.

00:44:24.580 So all that to say, I think that, again, authenticity is what's going to separate the people like the, I don't know, Tim Pool, but like the Tim Pools of the world from Nephilim Death Squad, from Ed Mabry, from people who are just like, you know, from Brian for Demon Eracers.

00:44:38.900 I'm going to be who I am, and I'm going to bring that value. And I think people are gravitating to that.

00:44:44.260 one thing that um when uh john was leaving for the airport and i was i was i mean excuse me

00:44:50.500 leaving it to go back um to south florida where he's from i was like what did you think what was

00:44:54.560 what was your impression of the of this community and he's like at this this is your flock not to

00:44:59.540 say that i'm everyone's passing but this is the flock that you've been called to these are the

00:45:03.480 people and how do you feel about that ed yeah that's a heavy i don't know unfortunate flock of

00:45:09.920 people yeah no people the people are awesome oh i want to do the top three things i heard

00:45:18.280 from from folks the top three questions oh wait ed before you go can i just because you're talking

00:45:23.280 about uniqueness and i just want to share uh a thing about uniqueness in this community oh my

00:45:28.380 goodness all right yeah let's go here we go this is uh this is the after hours hang you missed this

00:45:34.280 you missed this oh no he was there he was there no were you there no no i i missed it i had to go

00:45:38.420 back to the hotel i wish we had brian so that's brian taught my son how to lightsaber yeah see

00:45:45.440 i'm glad i wasn't there because i have like you know bad racial memory of whips

00:45:48.380 i don't think i'd be comfortable of the whip look at the pose he has i love him i love it oh yeah

00:45:54.780 he does a pose he's got the hair whip and i think he's gonna strike the pose he did yeah he did a

00:46:01.820 hair whip as well this is a it's a unique well uh group of people i'm actually glad that that's

00:46:06.660 the way the performances went too because you know you have kind of a loose idea of what you're

00:46:10.800 going to discuss i think the most rigid one was probably with owen and uh and dr heather lynn and

00:46:17.280 that was only on whether or not they devoured the corpse of charlie kirk uh and that was pretty much

00:46:21.540 our launching pad we had no other plans other than that and those my father-in-law came in at

00:46:25.520 that moment oh yeah he didn't like that he just he was like bye yeah even john was like what the

00:46:31.040 hell i'm like dude just just go with it yeah yeah just check it out watch how it unfolds um it'll

00:46:36.280 make sense in a couple years john yeah yeah once it hits the news that they do that um but you know

00:46:41.780 the the round tables were such a um it has to be genuine because i didn't want to come with a rigid

00:46:49.480 plan i wanted people to be able to speak freely and when you have no plan the only thing you have

00:46:54.700 to fall back on is the truth that's it dude if you don't have something up your sleeve it's got

00:46:59.560 to be the truth. And that I think came through most evidently when we had Austin Picard on the

00:47:04.320 stage and he starts talking about just the darkness of looking into the child trafficking

00:47:09.440 and the elites and everything. And the truth of the matter was I had nothing else in my mind when

00:47:16.880 he was talking other than you need to be looking at God. You need to stop looking into the darkness

00:47:22.460 all the time. And so that's what came out of my mouth. And then what followed was, I think,

00:47:28.700 a really thoughtful conversation.

00:47:30.180 I would have loved to have given more people stage time,

00:47:32.540 but we ended up unpacking something

00:47:34.640 that was actually really important.

00:47:37.420 And it was, you know, we're in this space

00:47:40.220 and we can point to the machinations of the devil

00:47:42.620 all day long.

00:47:44.100 And it's very clear after a certain point

00:47:46.100 that you no longer require convincing

00:47:48.800 and the audience no longer requires convincing

00:47:51.240 of the fact that these things exist.

00:47:53.380 Now what?

00:47:54.680 And the answer to that should be,

00:47:56.600 we'll face the opposite direction

00:47:58.200 And apply all that analytical thinking, all that, you know, that desire for research, apply that to the Lord.

00:48:06.200 And so, yeah, that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't genuine.

00:48:10.480 There's no way I think that I would have risked going to such an abstract and big, thoughtful thing if it was planned.

00:48:20.740 I wouldn't have planned that.

00:48:22.020 There's no way.

00:48:22.760 But some people actually came to us and said that was their favorite part of the night, which is crazy because it was a wild one.

00:48:29.360 Yeah, I got a chance to talk to Austin a little bit because I've always admired his work.

00:48:32.840 So he and I had a couple of conversations and hopefully we can we can get together on something soon.

00:48:37.320 I think we exchange information.

00:48:38.840 Otherwise, if by the way, if anyone is watching, if you don't just go to my website, go to contact.

00:48:42.920 It's just it's faith by reason mail at gmail dot com.

00:48:45.440 It's easy. Just reach out to me there if I did not get a chance to exchange information with you.

00:48:48.900 But yeah, what's the saying? If you look into the abyss for too long, the abyss looks back. So you got to be careful. One of the questions you had that was really great, Raven, on our roundtable on Saturday was, you know, what is the lines of delineation or similarities between Christianity and conspiracy?

00:49:07.900 you know oh yeah how do they how do they meet and and my answer you know i'm sure people will see

00:49:13.020 it when you when you air it was that it's about the search for truth conspiracy theories which

00:49:17.520 truth i like the term truth or better because everything is a conspiracy we are looking we're

00:49:22.120 looking for truth we're just we're trying to make sense of this world and christian and christianity

00:49:27.640 is truth god is the truth so that's how they come together because we're we are christians we we know

00:49:32.280 that we have the source of truth but we're trying to make sense of the world and i even make that

00:49:35.940 point in like in my book on the little season because i don't end it saying hey i'm right you're 0.88

00:49:39.460 wrong you're stupid i the last chapter of my of my book is i i understand why you're why this theory 0.94

00:49:46.480 appeals to you because you're trying to make sense of the world and the world is a evil place where 1.00

00:49:52.840 it looks like the bad guys are winning and so if you come up to you see a theory that says yeah you

00:49:57.320 know the bad guys are in charge this is satan's time i totally get why that appeals to you because

00:50:02.340 you're trying to make sense of the way you're trying to you're trying to find truth so i mean

00:50:06.740 all this not to get so no not the little season thing per se but that's just the mentality that

00:50:11.280 yeah we have as people who are in the conspiracy realm and also in the christianity realm yeah i

00:50:17.100 think that um you know if you're being very honest uh the truth is going to lead you to christ

00:50:23.280 and the thing that causes a deviation for people when they're on that path is typically like church

00:50:28.360 hurt or uh you have this cultural connotation of what christianity is so you already have this

00:50:34.440 bias going into your you know your your seeking of the truth that christians are simplistic and 0.99

00:50:40.920 they're dumb yeah and uh and you know this is not the truth because clearly the truth is very 0.98

00:50:46.020 complex when you look at it it's so esoteric it's so occulted and you know at that point i think 0.99

00:50:52.780 people need to stop and ask themselves if that's what you're finding is it a love for the truth

00:50:58.740 that you have or is it a love for knowledge which is a little bit different as you know

00:51:06.920 that's a little bit different than a love for the truth and is that being tempted or not tempted but

00:51:11.060 is it being um uh sort of poisoned by this unwillingness to look at it because you think

00:51:18.300 you know what it is already you there's a difference there's a difference between truth

00:51:22.880 and facts you can speak you can you can you can state facts that aren't in truth for example you

00:51:28.100 know satan stated facts when he when his temptations of jesus he quoted the scripture accurately i

00:51:33.100 think we talked about this in when i mean john and i were on that you know it's about the context

00:51:38.180 in which you're using them truth it's our facts that create that move you forward so just saying

00:51:43.480 a fact like if you say to someone hey you know what i saw i saw your wife hanging out with this

00:51:48.880 guy yesterday that's truth but what if that guy was her brother well right so that's the difference

00:51:54.240 between stating a fact and stating truth if you say i saw your wife hanging out with her brother

00:51:57.480 yesterday okay that is truth because it's going it's it's full and it's rich and it's going to

00:52:01.480 bring you forward so just so there's a difference between looking for truth and looking for facts

00:52:05.520 i think that's where a lot of people get get thrown off a bit yeah yeah and i think it also

00:52:09.880 So there's this, uh, Kenny, the fed in the chat said it's, it comes from pride is yet

00:52:13.600 there's a, there's a prideful feeling in being this, uh, you know, uh, insufferable know-it-all.

00:52:19.620 Um, and so, you know, if you, if, if that's what you really want, if it's a sense of pride,

00:52:24.520 if you love feeling superior, that because what makes you superior in that instance is knowledge

00:52:32.060 that can easily be misconstrued as I love the truth. It's like, no, no, no. You love feeling

00:52:38.020 superior so you love having this information it goes back to that debate thing right where it's

00:52:42.420 like um are you debating because you love the truth and you really care about finding it even

00:52:46.700 if it's at the cost of your own ego um and you have to concede at the end that the other person

00:52:52.320 is correct or do you just love being right do you love being superior and you know people people

00:52:57.620 will often say like no i love the truth it's like i don't know man you really got to look at that

00:53:01.020 but i mean speaking of like this debate idea we have that the candace owens thing going on yeah

00:53:05.700 yeah we can talk about um yeah i was just i was watching a couple of clips and uh i was watching

00:53:10.220 the general consensus of what people thought about it yeah it's again it's did it already happen

00:53:15.380 uh yeah i don't even know if it's over yet but it uh they certainly did something and it seems

00:53:21.360 like you know obviously you're not getting any clarifications you're not going to get any uh

00:53:25.880 open and shut cases from this people coming in that were agreeing with the other side will agree

00:53:30.980 it seems like i don't know it seems like this guy got a little bit embarrassed which is

00:53:35.360 great but could also just be our echo chamber that we're in i mean if there's another section

00:53:41.280 of the internet who knows maybe it looks differently to them or or the tweets are

00:53:44.980 different but it's a it's a crazy thing to try to debate right uh who killed charlie kirk because

00:53:52.820 it's not even been settled you know in in well i guess it has been settled tyler robinson in court

00:53:58.400 um but the doubt associated with it being tyler robinson is is is also very untangible right or

00:54:07.380 intangible rather it's not things that you have uh readily available in terms of evidence you can't

00:54:12.900 really prove one way or the other um i just find it fascinating it's it's an interesting thing and

00:54:19.180 it also is very interesting to me to pay three hundred thousand dollars to somebody

00:54:22.460 to debate if someone pays you 300 i don't like debating but if you pay me 300 grand i will

00:54:26.520 debate you sure yeah yeah by the way i don't know if you guys are noticing as you said it before

00:54:31.020 raven um but your cameras keep switching up between going blurry and clear so i don't know

00:54:35.320 yeah that's just whatever it is thankfully it's the puerto rican one but um no that was just

00:54:40.620 we got it now it's mine too yes both yeah you kind of take turns i do wonder though as far as

00:54:46.240 this debate go so so uh you know owen benjamin had a discussion with matt and they talked about

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00:57:46.440 But Owen Benjamin was getting ready to debate Andrew Wilson

00:57:50.260 before he backed out about the Trinity,

00:57:52.220 because Owen had questions,

00:57:53.760 and I guess basically the Orthodox Church is claiming to know definitively the answers,

00:57:58.620 which is like, I think anybody struggling with the concept of the Trinity is it's a reasonable

00:58:02.940 thing to struggle with because we are physical beings in a materialistic realm. I mean, there's

00:58:06.760 a spiritual realm in the background, but whereas God is outside of time and he is, you know,

00:58:12.160 three persons in one and all these different things, like it's a complicated, but it's God,

00:58:15.940 the creator of the universe. So yeah, it is a complicated and confusing thing. These guys are

00:58:19.940 acting like they definitively know, but I can't help but wonder how many people would be informed

00:58:24.760 and better off from watching the debate versus how many people would be informed and better off

00:58:29.440 from watching a thoughtful conversation about it and i think they'd be much less triggered

00:58:34.280 because you know that you're not rooting for one side you're not looking for the takedown so i so

00:58:38.260 you would your your mind would be in a better place to receive it and i did want to talk about

00:58:42.880 that because i think i don't know if you guys i saw a show maybe it was yesterday the day before

00:58:46.260 where you guys talked about this debate um with with with conflict candy and and and the only

00:58:51.820 fans takedown guy yeah i only know him that's the only way i know this guy from like debating

00:58:56.760 only fans models which is like okay dude if that's if that's your your thing yeah well he's actually

00:59:01.100 one of three uh major players in in the orthodox christian movement i thought you were gonna say

00:59:07.440 one of three baby daddies uh well that too but he yeah that's where that's where he does a lot of

00:59:13.920 his uh work as well it's like apologetics for the orthodox christian church and it's no surprise but

00:59:20.500 it's just like man what a disgusting avenue to take yeah yeah so i was watching your show and

00:59:25.380 you and you guys pulled up a clip where i think he was maybe it was owen benjamin he was debating

00:59:29.340 about the trinity it was owen because he was just everyone was asking just a basic question

00:59:33.060 yeah and and it was like the worst answer well can you answer that question ed can you answer

00:59:38.760 that question actually i was here's what i do i i get into like debates in my car with i was i

00:59:45.280 think i was listening to your audio when i was like driving to the store and i was i was listening

00:59:49.180 to his answer and it was like well he because owen asked did he pray to god or not basic question

00:59:54.740 something that deserves an answer and instead of answering he said well he was he was just

00:59:59.860 fulfilling a scripture of our song yeah so so just answer his question specifically what it was is

01:00:05.200 owen is saying who did jesus pray and if so who did he pray to i think he's talking about in the

01:00:11.360 garden right in the garden right jesus prayed yeah right and and their response was he didn't

01:00:18.300 pray. He didn't pray. And I'm going to try to be graceful with what their answer is. I think what

01:00:24.040 they're claiming is that he was just verbally fulfilling prophecy, that he was making an

01:00:29.760 outward declaration so that it would be a fulfillment of Psalms. But then that would be

01:00:33.920 like, I don't know how, that's unacceptable because then there's other parts in Psalms

01:00:40.880 where Jesus is on the cross and he's fulfilling exactly what David spoke about. My God, why have

01:00:46.980 you forsaken me psalms 22 yeah yeah exactly so like are you fulfilled but it's an interesting

01:00:51.680 question right if we're talking about like time travel which what happens first what initiates

01:00:56.600 what yeah and is david watching jesus on the cross and writing that down or does he get a glimpse of

01:01:03.040 that and writes that down and then jesus does it yeah or has jesus read it before and then says it

01:01:08.340 and fulfills it like how does that work i don't i don't even know yeah i think well on that my

01:01:13.140 opinion and it's just that um i think that we talked about we've talked about prophecy before

01:01:18.040 that you know there's general prophecy and you're specific you can be very specific because god can

01:01:22.460 can prophesy precisely what he's going to do and he prophesied that jesus would die by having his

01:01:27.120 hands and feet pierced he prophesied that you know that that you know he would no bones in his body

01:01:32.620 would be broken because he was basically he was a passover lamb and you don't break the bones of

01:01:35.620 the passover lamb so he could do he can make all those things happen because he and jesus were in

01:01:39.220 complete agreement they jesus gave his will over completely to the father so so because of that

01:01:44.060 god could do what he will so by the way that's why go ahead i had somebody email the other day and

01:01:48.620 they're getting all pissy and they're telling me like oh the only reason that um you know jesus and

01:01:54.880 and the disciples and everything they were just they were aware of the old testament prophecy so

01:01:58.700 they went forward to fulfill them and that's that that's how like it's not a real fulfillment of

01:02:03.220 prophecy or this is just some angsty dude but i'm now thinking about that in this context of like

01:02:07.180 jesus was like don't break my legs yeah it would be impossible he told the roman soldiers you know

01:02:11.520 don't break my leg make sure you crucify me this way make sure you put me in this tomb yeah no you

01:02:15.200 can pierce my side yeah just don't break my legs right what what is possible though is like him

01:02:19.380 being familiar with the psalm and then him saying it right yeah i believe that that actually did

01:02:24.080 happen top i think he was quoting that song because he knew that that song was prophetic

01:02:27.100 and he was fulfilling it yeah again and that was god's will because god flowed through him

01:02:31.220 completely and as far as the whole thing i've heard this before well you know the disciples

01:02:35.020 or their condiment that they did all this stuff why what did they get out of it they were all

01:02:39.820 tortured to death and all they had to stop being tortured was saying hey you know what jesus isn't

01:02:43.660 lord they could have stopped it and they did so cut in half men go to death they're not go ahead

01:02:47.860 crucified hung cut in half crucified boiled in oil oiled yeah stoned brought back to life and

01:02:54.600 then killed later it's insane for for nothing it's like they all became rich they weren't like 0.92

01:02:58.960 l ron hubbard they didn't create their own religion and become rich off of it they did not have you 0.63

01:03:03.020 know physically they didn't have the greatest of lives why would you do that if you're just a con

01:03:07.160 man and you can say okay oh i made it all up you can stop torturing me now that doesn't make any

01:03:10.360 yeah but onto the to the go ahead go ahead no no no that's exactly you do that for riches in heaven

01:03:16.320 sorry that's what you do it for yes actual riches you endure it for for that that's why that is why

01:03:21.760 they why they endured it because they knew that they were that they were going to be richly blessed

01:03:24.940 in heaven um so yeah so this explanation of the of the trinity was just like the worst thing i

01:03:30.020 ever heard? Answer the question. Yes, Jesus prayed to the father. And of course, I'm not going to

01:03:36.980 put words in Owen's mouth, but I assume his follow-up would be, okay, well, if he was praying

01:03:40.620 to someone else, then they are not the same person. Yeah. The Bible never says they're the

01:03:45.960 same person. It says they are one. That's a completely different thing. Here's where people

01:03:50.620 get this wrong, people who debate this. And I've gotten into, I wouldn't say debates, discussions

01:03:55.360 with Muslims on this because they love this because we're monotheistic and you Christians,

01:03:59.720 you're actually polytheistic because you believe in three gods nature but here's the thing god is

01:04:04.040 not a name god god elohim that's that's the the hebrew it is a title so you have the names are

01:04:13.560 yahweh your jehovah jesus yahushua and the holy spirit the rock hakodesh those are their names

01:04:20.440 and they are not the same person they are the same in nature you have the title of god if you

01:04:27.480 have the nature of god that is how all three can be god because all three have the same nature the

01:04:34.280 same power the same privilege the same responsibility the same authority look at it this

01:04:39.160 way the we have the president of the united states they all have the same title the same

01:04:45.320 responsibility the same authority but they're not the same person trump is not obama obama is not

01:04:49.720 bush bush is not clinton clinton is not kennedy all the way back but they were all president

01:04:55.800 they all have lived in the same place they have the same title they have the same power they have

01:05:01.120 the same responsibility they have the same respect you have to give them you have to treat them the

01:05:04.800 same way but they are different people but they were all president and they can be in the same

01:05:09.780 room at the same i mean yes george bush's funeral right that's right so i mean there's this idea

01:05:17.380 that uh that really i think is fascinating i don't know if you had anyone in your heart ever

01:05:20.280 talk about this but the idea that bill clinton was like kennedy's illegitimate son oh that's

01:05:24.740 fast i've actually never heard that that's an interesting oh yeah i've i've heard that i i can't

01:05:28.980 don't even ask me who i first heard it from because it was another guy on another uh truther

01:05:32.280 show but he was he was a historian who who like basically said that yeah um bill clinton might be

01:05:39.420 might have been uh kennedy's illegitimate kid that's a cool idea that's fascinating but yeah

01:05:43.480 i mean you know the whole point the whole point is that the nature of god is that he's always a

01:05:47.980 god it's always a completely right and just if you are always a completely right and just then

01:05:52.060 You are God.

01:05:52.940 That's why they could say the same thing.

01:05:54.960 They could think the same thing.

01:05:56.200 They, because they always were completely right and just.

01:05:59.880 So when Jesus, Jesus never said, I and the Father are the same.

01:06:02.560 He said, I and the Father are one.

01:06:04.040 We are of one nature.

01:06:06.100 Even if you go to the Old Testament, the Shema, which is, you know, the most sacred scripture

01:06:10.280 of the Jews, of the Israelites, when they say, you know, here, here, oh, Israel, the

01:06:14.600 Lord, our God is one.

01:06:16.480 That does not mean singular.

01:06:17.700 It means of one nature.

01:06:19.960 That's what the word holy means.

01:06:21.220 holy does not mean good holy means of one kind the holy angels are called go ahead what you say top

01:06:28.920 no no sorry is it referring to the same scripture where i said that's a sermon on the mount where

01:06:33.380 he's like if you have if you have a an evil eye cut it out you know we we need to be of one eye

01:06:39.440 like that's your idea we're supposed to be of one yes exactly we should be of one nature we as

01:06:43.720 christians we should be of one nature we we should be one that was he said be one as as my father and

01:06:50.420 are one jesus said that not that they're the same person obviously we're all you me top everyone

01:06:55.460 who's at bohemian grove we're christians we're we are of the same we're all the church but we're

01:06:59.940 not the same but we are supposed to be as one just as god the father the son and the holy spirit are

01:07:05.780 one not because they are exactly the same but because they are of one nature they all they have

01:07:12.420 i put the trinity in in the same sense as if i if i were to ask you um what are you are you your

01:07:18.980 words your thoughts or your actions the answer is yes all of those you think it you say it you do it

01:07:25.620 that's the same thing the father yahweh are the thoughts he is the consciousness jesus is the

01:07:31.620 logos the words he speaks it the holy spirit does the action the holy spirit is active right now he's

01:07:37.380 always doing stuff all of them are god because they have the exact same thought process they

01:07:42.180 have the exact same nature they have different roles jesus is the word all things were made by

01:07:48.180 him he spoke the word into existence god had the thoughts he is the will we talk about god's will

01:07:53.140 it's not about god's words god's will jesus has the words the holy spirit is the action they are

01:07:58.340 all the same because you you think that you say that you do it and all of those things are you

01:08:02.740 none your words are you your thoughts are you your actions are you so that's why and so when i so 0.87

01:08:07.300 whenever i talk to a muslim about this they say well you're polytheistic okay tell me first of all 0.64

01:08:12.020 show me any place let's say for the sake of argument let's say you're right let's say christians 0.98

01:08:16.260 are polytheistic because we believe in three entities that are all called god so the hell

01:08:20.320 what what is it what is it inherently about being monotheistic that's superior so yeah um there's

01:08:28.660 nothing inherent about it and i'm not saying again i believe i believe in in one god of a god of one

01:08:34.120 nature because all three are god but there's nothing admirable about believing in a singular 0.92

01:08:39.360 entity they just make that up and that's why i always tell a guy i worked with who's a muslim 0.88

01:08:44.440 He didn't hate me, but he would always get irritated with me.

01:08:47.920 I was like, you know what?

01:08:48.420 Here's the difference between you and I.

01:08:49.900 You revere Jesus. 1.00

01:08:50.840 I don't give a damn about Muhammad. 1.00

01:08:54.220 Everyone appropriates Jesus. 1.00

01:08:55.800 The Muslims appropriate him. 0.97

01:08:57.020 The Hindus appropriate him. 1.00

01:08:58.720 The New Age. 1.00

01:08:59.380 The Gnostics. 1.00

01:08:59.780 You know what? 1.00

01:09:00.520 Nobody appropriates Muhammad. 0.77

01:09:01.880 You know why? 1.00

01:09:02.340 Because Muhammad sucks. 1.00

01:09:03.640 Nobody likes him. 1.00

01:09:05.240 You know what's really funny?

01:09:06.920 Did he cut your head off for saying that?

01:09:08.720 Well, Jeremiah had a banger.

01:09:10.580 If he could have, he would have.

01:09:11.780 Did you hear?

01:09:12.300 because everybody co-ops uh jesus right as you're saying and the new age does it too

01:09:17.200 and this is not this is jeremiah skeebus i so he's gonna make a t-shirt we can't steal it

01:09:22.180 um but he said uh how come there's no muhammad consciousness dude yes i think i think he may

01:09:30.380 have said that to me yeah this is a total banger that's why because because again you can you call

01:09:35.860 me a polytheist oh great okay great your holy scripture comes from a guy who was illiterate

01:09:40.580 Yeah, that's kind of crazy. 0.98

01:09:41.460 Muhammad was an illiterate goat herder. 1.00

01:09:43.700 How did he? 0.99

01:09:44.280 So you're saying that you're and he said, well, that makes it greater because, you know, that means he was obviously inspired. 0.99

01:09:48.820 OK, if a retarded person came up with your philosophy, your intellectual philosophy, would you say, oh, it's a great philosophy because a retard came up with it? 0.99

01:09:55.580 Right. Right. Specifically because of that. 1.00

01:09:57.600 Yeah. Yeah. Your holy book was written by someone who can't write.

01:10:00.760 That's not admirable. 1.00

01:10:02.400 Yeah. I'm pissing off Muslims. 1.00

01:10:04.480 I love that. No, I mean, but but that idea, though, of the Mohammed consciousness thing is like, yeah, nobody else is co-opting. 1.00

01:10:10.580 muhammad no nobody's everybody's co-opted they're not trying to peace be upon nobody's telling us

01:10:16.560 about uh pleiadian muhammad where's pleiadian muhammad that's not a thing right yeah and that's

01:10:22.700 very interesting uh very interesting insight the bathroom right now oh such a funny funny just a

01:10:29.080 simple and hilarious insight where is your muhammad consciousness is a banger but yeah i mean i think

01:10:34.860 owen is asking a great question yeah and i and i don't think that you know like the orthodox

01:10:40.980 people try to act like that it's you know he's he's delving in blasphemy it's like you think

01:10:46.040 that god is upset because owen's asking that question and then when he's making fun of it

01:10:50.400 because he does make fun of it he's making fun of the people that are reacting by clutching their

01:10:54.340 pearls and freaking out uh and telling him that he can't do that you know telling him that he's

01:10:59.340 blaspheming it's like okay i've seen what makes you screech now i'm gonna keep doing it i'm gonna

01:11:03.080 keep doing it but we've also unfortunately seen what makes you applaud right exactly exactly

01:11:08.920 yeah it's your uh your icons in your fake church well and the problem we can wrap this up with the

01:11:14.660 with the orthodox start but the problem is that they don't have a definition for god that's why

01:11:18.840 they can't explain the truth they can't define the trinity because they don't have a definition

01:11:21.700 for no they define god i mean they don't have a good definition of god didn't they say that

01:11:27.440 they said i'm pretty sure they explicitly say god is the church the only way that we're the true

01:11:31.960 church and the only way to salvation is through, right? I mean, if Jesus Christ is the truth,

01:11:36.480 the way, and the life, and the only way to salvation is through him, and then you're

01:11:39.900 standing here saying, no, the church is the true church and the only way to salvation is through

01:11:44.480 the Orthodox Church, you know, the only way to be really Christian is through the Orthodox Church,

01:11:49.120 it sounds a lot like the same language. That's a pathway that'll leave you $300,000 in debt to a

01:11:54.380 pregnant black lady. Well, there you go. Well deserved. What you were describing a little bit 1.00

01:11:58.480 there ed uh about the trinity being of one mind like they're on the same uh i don't know you would

01:12:04.940 say oh we're on the same wavelength right we're on the same personalities jesus personality is

01:12:09.300 different from the holy spirit is different from the father but go ahead yeah but like you would

01:12:12.740 we would commonly say we're we're on the same uh frequency we're we're vibing yeah on the same

01:12:17.660 vibration yeah yep that sort of idea and that that brings me that my mind was going there while we

01:12:23.760 We were talking about the frequency aspect

01:12:26.520 and the vibrational aspect of what you've been working on.

01:12:30.420 Yeah, that's right.

01:12:31.220 This is a powerful segue, dog.

01:12:32.560 Dog, I'm good at this.

01:12:33.420 That was good.

01:12:34.200 Take my job serious.

01:12:35.600 You're a professional.

01:12:36.920 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:37.400 A little golf clap for that ass. 1.00

01:12:41.000 Please, let's get into that. 1.00

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01:15:37.180 we talked about this a couple of three weeks ago, that it was, had been impressed on me

01:15:41.980 um by god to create these nighttime meditations on the for spiritual warfare because a lot of people

01:15:49.260 really deal with um the spiritual warfare spiritual attack spiritual oppression at night because that's

01:15:54.540 when you're in that transition period between your your critical analytical mind kind of you know

01:15:58.300 subsiding and your unconscious which is all feelings and emotions um coming to the forefront

01:16:05.580 and in that time is when you're you're kind of when the when the veil is thinned

01:16:09.420 um and you will say this is a repeating it's mostly audio but the the uh the loop is there is

01:16:15.660 um the um the videos loop loops but um so when you are when you're in that period of time you

01:16:24.540 can be impressed upon either positively or negatively that's so when and a lot of people

01:16:29.660 get attacked at this point that's when the oppression happens when you hear these words

01:16:32.860 that are telling you you had a horrible day you know things are are not working for you you are

01:16:38.220 you're you're a failure all these things happen and then people get even more extreme things like

01:16:42.220 night terrors and sleep paralysis and all these things happen at night and the reason is because

01:16:46.220 that veil is thin and so what i've put together is in a nighttime meditation it's on youtube now

01:16:53.020 that incorporates some of the spiritual warfare's of course material as well as some bible verses

01:17:00.380 and some encouragement to to let you know where you are in this fight to um help you get through

01:17:05.260 this period of time and so it's an hour and a half um that's on youtube for free you know um

01:17:10.540 if if cost is an issue because i know our our spiritual warfare course there's a cost involved

01:17:15.100 and not everyone can you know can make it happen i totally get that but what i but i still wanted

01:17:21.100 to make something available to people who are suffering who who need this and so this was the

01:17:26.300 first one i'm going to do a series of night meditations and morning meditations because

01:17:29.900 that's the other time when the spiritual enemy can impress upon you because when you're waking

01:17:34.380 up you're doing the opposite when you're going to sleep you go from analytical critical to your

01:17:38.300 unconscious when you're waking up you're going from your unconscious to your to your um your

01:17:43.260 critical analytical mind and then that same period of time is when you get those impressions that

01:17:47.660 today's gonna suck look at think of all the things you have to do today that aren't gonna go well your

01:17:51.900 kids are doing this your your wife or husband is doing this sort of thing um and that's when they 0.74

01:17:58.140 and that's when they start on you and that's when your day can go bad but if you start your day in

01:18:02.860 gratitude under the protection of the of the holy spirit under the protection of of god

01:18:07.900 and you start your day in a positive way then that's spiritual warfare that is basically pushing

01:18:12.460 the enemy out of your life so you're pushing the enemy out of your your um your nights and

01:18:17.340 you're pushing them out of your morning so that you can be in a positive place and you can walk

01:18:22.540 in victory i like i like it i i'm uh this is this is specifically for nighttime or do you

01:18:28.620 do you think it matters uh um it does you can listen to it anytime but it's geared towards

01:18:34.220 night to kind of get you into sleep because it basically it starts with you know it has like you

01:18:39.100 know soothing music it has like that soothing looping video that's just to help you wind down

01:18:43.580 because you know if you're like me you're on your device right before you go to sleep

01:18:46.540 yeah which is not we shouldn't be doing that but what we do this just winds your mind down you know

01:18:51.180 the narration is very calming and soothing you know slow it down so that all these things are

01:18:56.620 impressing a point but what i want to do is the purpose is to impress the word of god and these

01:19:02.140 lessons about you know the armor of god i spent a lot of time on the armor of god in this particular

01:19:06.860 um narration letting you know where you are you are protected through the night to just put your

01:19:11.660 your mind in the right place and then as it goes on you know the the narration gets lower and that

01:19:19.100 sort of thing because i just want you to drift into into sleep without distraction and actually

01:19:23.180 i'm about halfway through you know that even that video just goes black because i want to end the

01:19:27.980 distraction distraction i want to get you into like a deep restorative sleep but under the under

01:19:32.540 the protection of god so it almost gets it gets almost so low as a subliminal with some of the

01:19:37.020 bible verses so that only your unconscious can hear it so you're not distracted you know what's 0.99

01:19:41.260 interesting about that i was just watching this documentary uh a cursed man and it's this moron 0.94

01:19:46.860 who is very materialistic but wants to believe and so his method uh for you know having a breakthrough 0.83

01:19:53.100 moment with the spiritual realm is to go around to the most reputable witches and warlocks and

01:19:58.360 druids that he can find and ask them to uh curse him and they do uh some of them don't some of them

01:20:04.880 are like nobody's ever asked me that does he have to pay him to curse them or yeah i imagine you do

01:20:10.200 he did have to pay them and uh drifting one of the things he complains about afterwards is

01:20:15.180 first and foremost nightmares which a lot of them say as they're doing it this thing will first

01:20:20.600 happen in nightmares and then it'll turn into physical ailments and then it'll turn into this

01:20:24.920 and then it'll turn into disaster and then it'll turn into death and um so the idea of preparing

01:20:30.240 yourself for spiritual warfare even in your you know in your sleep is actually i mean as somebody

01:20:36.160 who's been through the ringer with all kinds of bizarre happenings i can tell you that nightmares

01:20:41.000 are a huge part of it and um and anybody who really i mean it sounds funny to say nightmares

01:20:47.680 But like, man, if you have them, it's not good. It's really it's really, really not good. It's it's incredibly stressful. And it is it's terrifying. And so that makes a lot of sense to me to come at it from this angle.

01:20:58.760 The other thing, too, is that he is talking with parapsychologists and they're talking about sort of the the suggestibility of the subconscious mind and and in particular things like placebo and nocebo, which in my estimation, what they're actually doing is they're pretty damn close to the truth, but they're removing God in the spirit realm from it.

01:21:19.640 And then they're talking about it in the in the context of some sort of profound, undefined biological function that somehow your belief has a lot to do with your own ability to heal yourself and things like that, where it's like, yeah, the Bible talks about the power of faith and, you know, even that of a mustard seed and all these different things for a long time.

01:21:38.100 But go ahead, you know, lean on your own understanding and remove God from the equation. That works out really well for us very often. And so what you're talking about, like playing scripture that's even speaking on a subconscious level while you're sleeping, if there really is this idea that the subconscious mind can, in our limited understanding, because I do think it's limited, I don't think they're saying anything profound here.

01:21:58.860 I think they're actually stripping something that the Bible tells you pretty explicitly, but let's go for that.

01:22:04.720 So in your subconscious mind, you can hear a thing and then have some sort of belief associated with that thing.

01:22:12.580 Very much like if somebody curses you and then you become afraid of the curse and then all of a sudden things start happening to you, you get sick, et cetera, you know, nightmares.

01:22:20.400 What can be seen as purely psychological phenomenon and then the placebo effect is definitely much more.

01:22:26.280 But why not the inverse of that?

01:22:28.040 And I'm not saying that the placebo effect is even, to say it's real is to say, I don't know, take something profound that is true and then talk about it in really reductive language and say it's still true.

01:22:42.900 And like, that's effectively what the placebo effect is. It's you're describing a spiritual principle. And you're saying that this, you know, child's version of it is true, but do that with scripture, right? Plant that subliminal seed, do it through the word of God, do it while you're sleeping so that it is absorbed in some subconscious level. And if a negative effect can be absorbed on a subconscious level, and then bear negative fruit in your life, then then this would work the same way, but it would bear positive fruit.

01:23:10.760 Yeah, so there's scripture there, but it's also interspersed between the scripture is just like light teaching. It's not heavy teaching because if you get heavy, then your mind's going to stay turned on. So no, it's really just more about, I don't want to call them affirmations because they're not. They're just basically telling you your position and why you have that position and then giving scripture to back it up. And I think as you're doing that in the way I wrote it, I think it does a really good job doing that.

01:23:36.480 That's a really great idea. Can you talk a little bit about like, how that came to you? Because you said that this is something that God put on you. Is this like all at once? Or is this like little bits of information at a time? How does this get fleshed out?

01:23:51.360 yeah so the way it happened was you talk about the placebo effect and the things that you you

01:23:56.600 focus on like the reticular activating system as it's called the more you think the more you

01:24:00.220 are once you shift your mind in a certain way area then things start to happen and this happened

01:24:05.300 right after i'd made the decision i said you know what this is what i want to do full time i want

01:24:09.860 this to be my gig i want to make this my income and so once i made that decision well things that

01:24:16.080 were already obvious that i just overlooked i started sudden charges suddenly started to see

01:24:21.120 them you know the the old saying right when you when you buy a certain car all of a sudden you

01:24:24.960 see that car on the road no those cars have already been there but now you're noticing

01:24:28.000 because that's where your attention is going and so because i was thinking what else can i do

01:24:32.960 to i want i want to grow the spiritual warfare course but i also want to help people and what

01:24:37.040 and what other ways can i do that and what was obvious is that i go to sleep with um certain

01:24:43.680 with audio certain audio playing because i have this uh i have a sleep mask that has you know

01:24:47.360 that has bluetooth uh speakers you know little speakers and i and i go to sleep with positive

01:24:53.920 affirmations that i actually recorded i record my own voice um just you know saying good things

01:24:59.440 and saying not their descriptions but saying you know positive thoughts i'm like wait a minute

01:25:05.120 other people need this and it that's how i and god said yeah you need to do this because it's

01:25:10.720 you can go to youtube and you can see a ton of these nighttime meditation videos they're very

01:25:14.800 secular they're just i mean not in a bad way but in a way that it's just like you know you are

01:25:20.320 great you are wonderful you know every good things yes yes yeah blah blah and they just repeat that

01:25:25.680 they're very they're very uh sort of me-centric you know which can be positive you know there's

01:25:31.840 a place for that but it's an interesting idea because a lot of these uh but what we discovered

01:25:36.320 it on the show is the new age practices are all uh mimics of principles that are created by god

01:25:43.100 and we've forfeited to let them do whatever with and yeah i when you when you scroll through i i

01:25:49.400 don't i don't know how many uh christian videos there are like that right but i can i can i didn't

01:25:56.140 see very much there are some that just repeat scriptures which is great that's fine but none

01:26:00.160 of them are actually dealing with a problem it's like you know you know go to sleep through the

01:26:04.340 psalms and there'll be someone who will like read psalms for you know a few hours which is fine

01:26:09.340 you know great but this is specific to spiritual oppression yeah and so it's not just verses it's

01:26:16.340 it's like it's you know it's some uh some christian teaching and positioning and there are a few more

01:26:21.680 i want to do so this first one is specifically about spiritual attack i'm i'm working on one

01:26:26.120 that's going to be about breaking covenants i'm doing another one about i think we talked about

01:26:30.080 this maybe about the you know the 3 a.m when people a lot of people wake up at 3 a.m and it's

01:26:33.500 called the witching hour that i'm going to do one that's that's specifically for people who are

01:26:37.520 dealing with that problem of waking up at 3 a.m and not being able to go back to sleep because

01:26:42.560 they because there's an oppression specifically about that so there's several i want to do it

01:26:46.200 in the morning once i want to i'm doing the one about you know waking up an authority waking up

01:26:50.320 with gratitude gratitude is a powerful offensive spiritual warfare weapon because when you're in

01:26:55.520 gratitude the enemy can't touch you when you're when you're that so i'm going to do several of

01:26:59.520 those. I'm going to do a whole series of them. But it's funny, you mentioned a talk about how

01:27:03.540 these so-called new age practices have a kernel of actual truth. They're just corrupted.

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01:29:49.580 at Spreaker.com. Spreaker, because if you're going to talk to yourself for an hour,

01:29:54.900 you might as well publish it. And it reminds me of something we talked about in the, um, um,

01:30:00.180 when I was on with, with, uh, John in the studio last week, and that was that verse that again,

01:30:04.500 was impressed upon me when I woke up Thursday morning and it was a Luke chapter 16. And that

01:30:09.900 is the, the parable of the unrighteous servant. And just for those who aren't familiar with it,

01:30:13.900 just a synopsis. Jesus gave a parable about the master of the house, who was basically an idiom

01:30:21.500 for God the Father, who had an unrighteous servant, and he basically said... This is why it came to

01:30:27.240 mind today. This is super weird, though. Is that why it came to mind today? Within the context of

01:30:31.120 what Ed's talking about? Well, slightly different context, but yeah. We just talked about this on

01:30:37.000 the last show that we did today. That happens so often, though. It's kind of crazy. So the parable

01:30:42.360 is you know the unrighteous steward he's not he's not managing the money of the household well and

01:30:45.840 he basically the master of the house says you're about to get fired so before this dude gets fired

01:30:50.320 he goes out and he settles the debt of people who owe debt to the master at like 50 cents on the

01:30:55.740 dollar 80 cents on the dollar and so then after he does it basically cheats the master out of out

01:31:02.020 of money but the master commends him afterwards not for being you know not for being a cheater

01:31:07.140 but because he used the wealth of the master to make friends in the world.

01:31:13.100 And Jesus said, Jesus said, you know, he's committed.

01:31:15.240 He said, use unrighteous mammon to make friends in this world so that when the mammon, when the money, the wealth runs out,

01:31:23.040 you'll have you have people who kind of who owe you, who have to give back to you.

01:31:27.120 So basically, this unrighteous steward knew he said, I'm about to get fired.

01:31:30.300 Let me make some friends so I can have like a golden suit.

01:31:34.920 Oh, you got a little chopped up there.

01:31:37.140 uh-oh well we lost you for a second ed i think you said golden parachute yeah can you hear me

01:31:44.080 now yeah that was weird okay nothing happened on my end well who knows um but so if you have

01:31:49.780 basically a golden parachute of people who are going to take care of him after he got he was

01:31:53.520 unemployed and jesus commends him for that and then he says use the unrighteous mammon and actually

01:31:58.900 i talked to brian of demonerations about this i want a confirmation because because i again that

01:32:02.800 that verse was really impressed upon me and he because and i knew that he actually deals with

01:32:07.840 demons and he's and he said yeah i've encountered mammon and mammon is just it's it's it's as you

01:32:13.000 would imagine greed it's it's avarice it's just like i want stuff give me stuff it's the wealth

01:32:17.360 of this world it's basically where mammon is relying on the wealth of this world and trusting

01:32:21.200 in it over god but jesus said something really weird he said use the unrighteous mammon of this

01:32:26.640 world to make friends so that when the again when the mammon runs out you will have you will have

01:32:32.720 riches for eternity more or less so he is saying that to to do that and he's he said right before

01:32:39.200 that the sons of darkness the people of this world are in their generation wiser than the sons of

01:32:44.800 light because they know how to do this so the reason i brought that back to the principle level

01:32:48.960 is that jesus was not commending this guy for for what he did specifically he was commending him for

01:32:55.200 obeying a principle the principle is neutral the principle is use wealth wisely to you know

01:33:03.040 to take care of yourself in the future now the servant the unrighteous servant did this in a bad

01:33:08.160 way but he was showing us how followers can do this in the right way use money to help others

01:33:15.440 yeah and and so and the reason i brought that up is because i think that we take a principle

01:33:21.440 and ascribe evil to it.

01:33:23.620 I mean, I grew up in a church

01:33:24.560 where poverty was considered holy.

01:33:26.780 The more impoverished you are,

01:33:28.300 the more you struggle,

01:33:28.880 the more you struggle to God.

01:33:30.300 Whereas, so the church is struggling,

01:33:32.500 whereas the wicked, as they say, are rich.

01:33:34.640 Well, that's not really,

01:33:35.820 that's not a really good sales pitch to people

01:33:37.260 who you're trying to get to Christians,

01:33:38.760 become Christians.

01:33:39.480 Like, okay, yeah, believe in God

01:33:40.720 and you can struggle.

01:33:41.980 No thanks.

01:33:42.640 I think I'd rather believe in the stock market

01:33:44.820 and have some money.

01:33:46.540 Yeah.

01:33:47.760 But when Christians, and we tend to do this,

01:33:49.720 We tend to take certain things of the world that the world is doing, the principles that the world is doing, and then we ascribe them to evil.

01:33:57.420 And that's, I think, meditation was like that.

01:33:59.420 People go, oh, meditation, you're into the spirit world.

01:34:01.980 No, meditation is just focusing on something.

01:34:04.460 You know, this principle of using money.

01:34:06.160 Money is not evil.

01:34:07.360 The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil, but money itself isn't evil.

01:34:10.380 It's neutral.

01:34:10.740 You can use it.

01:34:12.040 Yeah, that's the distinction, right?

01:34:13.260 Love of money.

01:34:14.760 No, I was just going to say, like, people kind of mince that.

01:34:16.760 that's something that we've been talking about a lot of the show lately is love the love of money

01:34:20.820 is the root of all evil not specifically money i mean we're you know it says in the bible to render

01:34:25.520 unto caesar what is caesar's so i mean we're supposed to be able to use these systems it's

01:34:30.480 just that we're not supposed to become of them right exactly yeah mammon should be your servant

01:34:35.660 you shouldn't be its servant jesus said that's a good way to work no man can serve two masters

01:34:40.040 you either love one or hate the other you cannot serve god and mammon you can serve god and use

01:34:44.900 mammon or you can serve mammon and you know, neglect to God, but you can't, you just said

01:34:50.420 you can't do both. Yeah, no, I agree with that. And then through it, I mean, this is something

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01:37:48.840 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it not serving mammon but you are using it

01:37:55.200 and that line can get blurred when you have like the institution that is the church and you need

01:38:02.440 money to run it and then money's coming in so you can do good things with it you can you know

01:38:07.600 have missionaries or you can give to the needy or all these different things that are positive

01:38:11.840 but then because there's so much coming in and then because it scales up to such a degree where

01:38:17.360 you need more hands in the pot in order to give the money and and you know allocate it to this

01:38:22.060 and that and the other thing and run this eventually throughout that process is when

01:38:26.420 someone in there gets something whispered in their ear and then there's a corruption right

01:38:31.220 with that with all that money that's coming in i was talking to um a couple guys during bro

01:38:36.120 it might have been bennett from broadcasting seats or maybe jt as well we were talking about

01:38:40.820 kenneth copeland who is gigantic head and they were saying how you know back in the day when

01:38:45.260 he first started he was a good guy you know he was doing things the right way but then he got

01:38:48.940 so much money he switched he stopped serving god he started serving mammon instead of using mammon

01:38:54.060 to serve god he did the opposite and god didn't want him to have the private jet and the uh well

01:38:58.980 i mean you know money is a neutral thing right money is uh just a thing that you get yeah thing

01:39:04.120 yeah man that's i was talking with my wife about that yesterday about like uh i don't know not that

01:39:10.260 i'm like rich but i was like if i was dealing with the amount of money that i have now when

01:39:14.420 we were living in an apartment it would be it would be spent unwisely oh yeah yeah gone

01:39:21.340 if i had my 20s what i have now yeah it would have because in my 20s i was trying to start

01:39:27.020 businesses i think i wanted i just wanted to be i wanted to serve mammon when i was in my 20s and

01:39:31.740 god didn't let me do it because he knew that if i did he would have lost me something that uh sam

01:39:36.460 tripoli really nails is this kind of like law of abundance and he really believes it and tries to

01:39:40.920 practice this idea of like giving a lot of it away yeah and then it all comes back to him and

01:39:45.820 what I see is in Sam Tripoli a guy that gives everybody a shot like he is not a dude that's

01:39:52.200 unapproachable that won't have you on the show that won't help you get an opportunity and get

01:39:57.560 your you know your ideas out there and people look at that as and I have heard this you know like oh

01:40:04.180 well you're giving a spotlight to other people what happens if it takes away from your fan base

01:40:07.720 and all that stuff. I particularly, I think from where I am, my vantage point, I've seen

01:40:12.180 Tripoli find a great deal of success since I've been, you know, in this capacity, since we've

01:40:18.740 been doing this show. And every time I see him have a win, I celebrate that because that's a

01:40:23.780 guy who is like, he is practicing abundance. He does want to, he genuinely wants to see other

01:40:28.780 people succeed. And I think that that's just one of the ways that God has set things up. It's like,

01:40:35.420 if you help help will be given to you um whereas you know scarcity uh mindset dictates otherwise

01:40:43.660 you have to hoard your wealth and then i feel like your your stay in you know whether it's this idea

01:40:49.380 of influence or otherwise is temporary when that happens because you can hoard it all and you can

01:40:53.800 keep it to yourself but something's going to come along and even if you're still there even if people

01:40:57.600 still know who you are uh you're going to be known for all the wrong reasons you know enter kenneth

01:41:02.480 copeland right and his giant head full of demons we now don't know him as a servant of the lord

01:41:06.700 but instead a dude who seems demonically possessed that gives the church a really bad name um so yeah

01:41:13.380 i mean you can kind of see that uh exemplified in in people's lives if you look close enough

01:41:18.520 so one of the things that um that you should be prepared for if you start doing that because and

01:41:24.520 that's why i think was impressed upon me because god wanted me to talk to people at brogrove about

01:41:28.720 it because i think this is just kind of where he's setting me up i think in the very very near future

01:41:33.680 i mean i've been getting so much encouragement so many signs that this is the way he where he

01:41:38.160 wants me to be like in the very near future and i had a chance to talk to uh to laura baker we had a

01:41:42.800 great conversation love laura and you know because you know she was talking about you know that he

01:41:47.680 she talked about generational curses and and and and you know the blood and all that sort of thing

01:41:51.520 cleansing your blood and i was like you know i want to know what because my thing is if i want

01:41:56.480 want it for me and god wants it for me the only thing standing between it is me it's not god so

01:42:00.760 what what could be standing in the way and i talked to laura i'm saying you know is it possible

01:42:04.600 that there's something in in my bloodline is standing in the way and so we talked about that

01:42:08.140 a lot and she she prayed over me i really appreciate that so i wanted to give her a shout

01:42:12.040 out yeah yeah she's really huge in that in that way man i think she's i saw that that was over

01:42:17.240 here on the in the green room right i love it i love that happened um so yeah yeah she did that

01:42:23.180 and i owe her a book i think because she gave me one of her books we're supposed to do a book

01:42:26.920 exchange i don't know if laura got one of mine laura if you're listening you did get one of my

01:42:30.220 books reach out i'm happy to send it to you but the point is now i want to get to the story that

01:42:36.060 it has to do with the um with with the with that meditation finally getting up late last night

01:42:41.200 and this is why i really want people to get a hold of it because i will tell you the enemy does not

01:42:46.900 want this thing out so i've been working on this like steadily for three weeks because you know

01:42:52.080 got to get everything right i got to get the the video right i got to get the the tones and the

01:42:55.920 music and the narration and all that you know crunch together and whatnot so i've been working

01:43:00.720 on for three weeks even at bro grove i was still i kind of basically finalized the youtube piece

01:43:06.240 on it bro grove and i was working on the eight hour version where you have to you know loop

01:43:10.160 loop more things add more scripture and whatnot to let it go for the entire eight hours and so

01:43:16.800 i keep all my stuff on an external drive um which in retrospect isn't isn't the smartest thing to do

01:43:23.920 i should i i knew that but i had already i had bought another drive to back up my backup drive

01:43:28.080 but i i carried my my external drive with me everywhere all my stuff is on it like everything

01:43:33.360 spiritual warfare stuff my videos content just a ton of it is on that one drive so um on

01:43:39.920 i had my laptop i was at my mom's place because i hadn't i was in la and back up north now but

01:43:46.400 i had my laptop um the external drive was attached to it by a cord and i hit save and it starts

01:43:51.840 saving and i moved my laptop my hard drive disconnects and falls three feet onto the

01:43:57.200 carpet okay no big deal so i plug it plug it back in doesn't work why it starts beeping

01:44:03.120 deal so i plug plug it back in doesn't work why it starts beeping i have like beat the hell out of

01:44:10.320 that thing for years and this time if it falls three feet onto a carpet whoa and so i can't it

01:44:18.880 doesn't connect anymore and i'm freaking out because all everything's on there all my stuff's

01:44:23.200 on there so i call up a data recovery service and i tell them what happened i say can you guys recover

01:44:27.040 my data and when i describe it to him they're like dude you're cooked sorry what it's a mechanical

01:44:31.840 failure and you can't be he said the only way it can be done you can take it to a specialized center

01:44:37.680 and it's probably going to cost you thousands like upwards of five to seven thousand dollars

01:44:42.560 because they have to go to a clean room they have to take it apart it has to be in a clean room

01:44:45.840 they've got to do all the partitioning of all that that's the only way you're going to get

01:44:48.560 your data back i'm like that it was not on my bingo card to spend five to seven grand to get

01:44:52.960 this back and this is like right when i saved it right when i was ready to go but everything even

01:44:57.600 the original all all of it lost this was on my god night and i had promised people at bro grove

01:45:02.960 that i was going to have this up today i'm like what do i do and i knew this was a spiritual

01:45:07.840 attack i knew it was because earlier that day i had come into agreement i made a covenant i made

01:45:12.960 another covenant with god about this is where i'm going to go i want i'm not going to serve two

01:45:17.280 masters i'm not going to serve two masters i'm not going to serve you and mammon i'm going to serve

01:45:21.440 you and you alone this is this is going to be my career forever and i had great conversations with

01:45:27.200 jehovah and i had no i knew this was the right path and i think that's when the enemy just came

01:45:31.440 in and said we're gonna ruin you wow but what i did i could have i i wanted to give up i just

01:45:38.000 wanted to i was in despair because sure you want to talk about the wind getting taken out of your

01:45:42.240 sails dude my god i've been late on stuff like i'm late getting my spiritual warfare course out for

01:45:46.720 this for um for this week i'm gonna get it up those of you who are on the who are um students

01:45:52.080 i'll get it out to you today and even like like i'm late getting stuff up on patreon because

01:45:56.800 everything's gone i gotta start from scratch i said you know what i'm not going to let this

01:45:59.600 deter me i'm going so i rebuilt it in two days i rebuilt everything that took me three weeks

01:46:05.520 whoa and i was like dude that's what you did what about the rest of your stuff like i i guess that's

01:46:11.280 backed up on the internet but yeah yeah there's it's here and some a lot of it's here and there

01:46:15.360 on the internet but there's some stuff that's that's only there yeah like you know some of my

01:46:19.360 older videos are i can maybe pull them down from youtube um some maybe from rumble and a few other

01:46:24.800 places but a lot of it if it can't be recovered because i have it with a company and i'm they're

01:46:29.800 going to tell me what they're going to charge me and if it's worth it then i'll do it otherwise

01:46:32.320 i'm going to have to rebuild a lot there's a lot of documents that's a dude that's a spiritual

01:46:36.660 yeah if anybody uh can help that's listening yeah if anybody's i wasn't asking i mean but thank you

01:46:43.100 but no no but i mean yeah if anybody's in tech and you never know we got guys building us a sword

01:46:46.980 right now so yeah if you're listening and and this is something that you might know something about

01:46:51.400 wow but you know that's a spiritual attack dude it was a spiritual attack i said you know what

01:46:56.340 but but but what it tells me is like i'm on the right track yeah but what did god say right god

01:47:02.620 says do not be discouraged right right don't just don't fear and maybe god was saying hey how bad

01:47:08.300 do you want this because i think we always want to try to ask god how can i trust you but a lot

01:47:12.480 of times god wants is asking us can i trust you yeah the thing how are you going to react to

01:47:17.180 And I said, you know what, I'm going to, I'm going to meet my deadline.

01:47:21.180 I'm going to get this up and it's up at both.

01:47:23.180 You saw that the YouTube version is up and the, and, and the, uh, the paid version that

01:47:28.180 if you want the full eight hours, it's up on, on, on my, my shop at faith by reason and

01:47:32.180 my, my Patreon shop.

01:47:33.180 Cause I'm like, I am not going, I promised too many people at bro grove who were saying,

01:47:37.180 yeah, we can't wait for you to have this ready.

01:47:39.180 We want it.

01:47:40.180 We want to have this.

01:47:41.180 And I said the 14th and Hey, I, I did it.

01:47:45.180 it so just that's huge ed promises me promises kept it's in the description as well of this

01:47:51.000 video so you can open up the description and uh click on that and and go to his links go to his

01:47:56.160 patreon and also the youtube video and check that out but uh i guess some words of encouragement

01:48:01.380 about this is i think um i don't want to say this like it was knock on this cheap mdf wood

01:48:08.360 But I think the spiritual realm, they'll wage war and attacks on you.

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01:51:04.380 But I think that they get tired after a while.

01:51:07.200 Yeah, when you weather the storm.

01:51:09.440 The first couple of bro groves that we did,

01:51:12.640 I don't know, my dog died. 0.98

01:51:14.980 All kinds of other crazy shit happened. 0.97

01:51:16.680 I don't even remember anymore. 0.96

01:51:18.380 Tower Gang fell apart.

01:51:19.460 We got kicked out of an entire town.

01:51:21.060 Lost all my friends, got kicked out of a town.

01:51:22.680 Yeah, but that's all fun.

01:51:23.440 um this bohemian grove besides like like regular nuts and bolts planning it's always stressful

01:51:30.560 sure but it wasn't uh it didn't come with the extra spiritual warfare against us yeah so much

01:51:38.520 just a regular warfare just a regular yeah and that's that's fine like i'll sign up for that

01:51:43.220 all day like if we're what wires what like you know what's the worst that happened not to you

01:51:48.240 but i got a little i got a little sore throat for a day everybody yeah again so next time you

01:51:52.020 come to bro grove or whoever's coming yeah little vitamin c i had like vitamin c drops multivitamin 0.84

01:51:57.720 i was to the dangerous retards uh don't put your fingers in my mouth uh you asked for that no i 0.97

01:52:03.840 didn't ask for that i i allowed it but it's like you know you're gonna put your fingers in my mouth 0.95

01:52:07.420 and then i'm gonna get a sore throat and that's on you multivitamin maybe b12 uh vitamin c i had

01:52:13.780 them in a little droplet so as i'm walking around bro grove some people probably saw me just like

01:52:18.640 like you know if i felt some like my throat getting tired i was just boop all three days

01:52:23.560 maybe four days that's smart and i felt better afterward and i'm just going to continue to do

01:52:27.480 that but that's a good uh little trick to not you when you go to these big events there's a lot of

01:52:34.320 people you're going to kind of you might get sick it's like chances are you need to but this time

01:52:39.020 yeah there wasn't any uh warfare with it it went fairly smooth so yeah i think you're protected i

01:52:46.180 think that i think the holy spirit was protecting this you know we had the rainbow that that um

01:52:51.120 people were taking oh that was cool i i went full blown like i i prayed for a hedge of protection

01:52:57.500 around the venue i prayed that you know that nothing that was formed against us would prosper

01:53:03.080 that nothing could enter that had ill will for us um i prayed a lot about that event going into it

01:53:10.040 because I was getting hit with this overwhelming feeling of anxiety and fear.

01:53:17.660 And I had to give that to God.

01:53:20.000 Like I had to say, I know that that's not from you.

01:53:22.320 I know what kind of spirit you give us.

01:53:24.540 So I kind of did a little bit of a cheap thing where I said,

01:53:27.240 Lord, I want this to glorify you.

01:53:29.080 I want people who hear this to be drawn closer to you

01:53:31.880 because of you speaking through us.

01:53:33.800 You're sending Holy Spirit to speak through us.

01:53:36.080 And that being said, I'm laying this at your feet

01:53:39.820 because i don't have the strength enough to accomplish it the way that it needs to be done

01:53:43.560 so if i am going to glorify you if this is going to serve you if this is going to make disciples

01:53:47.740 of men or any of those things um then i need you and that was almost a sneaky way of being like if

01:53:53.180 this isn't good that's your fault it's your fault there's like a there was a double rainbow that

01:53:58.180 went over the venue yeah yeah how crazy is that it's insane a bunch of the bro that's the hedge

01:54:04.800 of protection dog that's god's promise over the over the venue yeah it was fantastic and you know

01:54:10.160 you know but the thing is you have you have to pray spiritual warfare every day because yeah it

01:54:14.000 may be multiple times a day because it was just waiting for the right moment to try to ruin this

01:54:18.120 like if you want if the d if the enemy wants us to ruin that badly then this is something that

01:54:22.480 people need so take a listen to it because whatever whatever good is going to come out of

01:54:28.980 of these meditations the enemy doesn't want it to be out there because he was doing everything he

01:54:33.680 could to what even but even yesterday when i'm when i'm um trying to get everything going

01:54:38.800 um things gets corrupted i have to rebuild some stuff again because files got corrupted

01:54:43.780 for really yeah that's insane my audio got corrupted my god man rebuild again and i and

01:54:52.060 that just that just steal my resolve i said you really really don't want that you know what excuse 0.95

01:54:55.780 my language fuck you i'm gonna make this i'm i i am going to make this happen yeah dude the harder 0.97

01:55:01.420 you want me to fail is the harder i want to make this happen because that means that god wants it 0.99

01:55:05.900 and i'm going to be the vessel you got to put something at the end of it uh go back in there 0.96

01:55:10.460 edit it and then at the very end before it starts over it should go satan is a hoe and it's like 0.90

01:55:15.660 but there are moments there are moments like that and uh then we'll bring it in for a landing here 0.72

01:55:20.460 because uh i've had a very long day but there there are moments like that where uh i don't know

01:55:25.260 know if i've even ever told you this david but we were diarrhea diarrhea diarrhea i heard the toilet

01:55:31.060 got plugged in the peasant bathroom that is true i'm waiting for the venue to bill me no that's

01:55:37.180 that's all numb none of their toilets worked anyway but uh there was a point in uh nds history

01:55:43.440 where i i was i was going from like that little room where we used to have the studio but yeah

01:55:49.000 you were somewhere in tampa and i came out of the room and we were done with the show and i was like

01:55:54.440 that's it that's it i don't think i can do this anymore they were like there were a lot of external

01:56:00.080 pressures uh monetary pressures as well yeah i had i had spoken to you about that ed uh about

01:56:06.680 stuff that was going on and i go um yeah i don't know if i'm gonna do this again i might have i

01:56:12.240 like i don't know how to end it i'll have to call david and be like but i i'm gonna have to go back

01:56:16.780 to work or go do something else because the walls are closing in and then it was just like a thing

01:56:22.940 i was like you know what no no they're not i mean they are yeah they're closing in and they have

01:56:29.740 spikes on them but no and that was it there was no rational reason i was just like i'm just gonna

01:56:35.580 keep doing this and then soon after that we figured out uh like the audio thing and we figured 0.97

01:56:42.100 out we was like oh shit look at that we have a really huge presence on audio and oh shit look 0.95

01:56:45.500 at that it's making uh real money for us not even like maybe like three weeks after that that that's 0.98

01:56:52.000 when that happened it's insane you just weather that storm you have no idea what's on the other

01:56:55.800 side of it honestly this is gonna say sounds super gay okay but god's promise is a rainbow 0.61

01:57:01.980 it literally comes after a storm yeah so when we're at brohemian grove you know you've got

01:57:07.680 this big storm moving on the horizon but what's in the background is this gigantic rainbow it's 0.98

01:57:11.460 just a lgbt community made it really gay it's actually a super cool uh light phenomenon when 0.98

01:57:16.240 you think about it honestly right i mean uh rainbow crushes who doesn't love a rainbow 0.98

01:57:19.860 you're appropriating colored light that's really selfish that's really yeah it is selfish i think

01:57:24.700 it's you know it's for everybody color and light yeah yeah how dare you but um that idea of a

01:57:30.600 rainbow after a storm like yeah man you if you weather that that bad boy like there's something

01:57:34.920 on the other end of it over and over again i talked to my cousin about this because so often

01:57:38.780 there's like a big thing that comes in life and it feels like you're landing a plane and the landing

01:57:42.700 gear is broken and you're coming in for a crash landing but once you finally get there and you

01:57:47.920 step out you're like on a beautiful island like so often right after the really horrifying thing

01:57:52.800 if you could just make it through that is something really really tremendous and so that's what i feel

01:57:56.980 and once this is passed i'm going through a ton of crap right now on the other side of what i want

01:58:02.300 to tell you guys a story because i believe that this all the stuff i'm dealing with right now is

01:58:05.920 leading to where i feel like all that pressure it's like you know birth pains literally i'm

01:58:09.400 yeah i think something's being birthed so i want you to those the three questions that i got the

01:58:15.600 most at bro grove real quick i know we got oh yeah that's right real quick so so the first 0.83

01:58:18.900 question i got from the from the dangerous retards was and do you always do you wear that cap all the 0.94

01:58:23.520 time because you're balding and you want to not say no i'm i wear the cap because i like wearing 0.98

01:58:27.680 caps i promise they asked you that so so look full head of hair hair there it is great head of hair

01:58:33.040 a lot because i i have not had a i haven't had a haircut in like a month because i haven't been

01:58:37.600 home for a month so my bar i'm going to my barber tomorrow he's going to talk so much crap we're

01:58:41.260 We're getting a lot of requests for a full-blown Ed Mabry afro.

01:58:44.720 I don't know if it's in the cards, but I have to put it out there.

01:58:48.140 My hair has not been this long and pushy in many, many years.

01:58:53.240 I'm going full Jackson 5.

01:58:54.960 So that's number one.

01:58:56.180 I'm not Tim Pool.

01:58:57.020 No, absolutely not.

01:58:57.800 Right, right, right.

01:58:58.820 The second question I got was, because I know I seemed a little overwhelmed.

01:59:04.120 They're like, Ed, were you nervous?

01:59:05.060 Were you nervous?

01:59:05.400 I'm like, no, it wasn't nerves.

01:59:06.500 I was overwhelmed by everyone.

01:59:08.640 And I love getting questions.

01:59:09.920 i love answering everyone's questions people had tons of questions for me but what i because the 0.89

01:59:15.140 way my mind works say again i said nobody asked me shit literally nobody asked me i mean they said 0.98

01:59:20.100 things like shut up yeah shut up yeah make it on stage do the dance everybody knows better than 0.99

01:59:24.460 to ask me questions like this he doesn't know yeah so when i get a question i have like 10 answers 0.97

01:59:29.360 and what i'm thinking is like i have to shift through all of them in real time to come up with

01:59:33.440 to to say the one i think it's gonna be best so that's what i'm like because like ed you're your

01:59:37.220 why are your eyes darting around like I'm not high I promise that's really me processing like

01:59:41.980 which of these answers is going to hit best so that's that was why that's why I kind of do this

01:59:47.360 sort of thing when when people are asking me questions I'm trying to I'm filtering in real

01:59:51.340 time right and the third most pop actually the most popular question I'm saving it for number

01:59:56.460 three is like which is why do you do a show with these two guys that's a fair question I've been

02:00:01.920 asking that myself stuff and I and my answer was you know what if Jesus could hang out with thieves 0.94

02:00:06.760 and prostitutes i can certainly hang out with with the nephlin death squad a bunch of thieves 0.99

02:00:12.340 and prostitutes a bunch of thieves and prostitutes baby yeah dude i mean i you know i i ask that all 0.99

02:00:18.000 the time but i just think we um you know if you if you watch the way that we behave so much of it 0.98

02:00:24.000 is about shocking people who want to clutch pearls and um and you know i don't know that there's

02:00:30.900 always a rhyme or reason behind it but sometimes a reason does emerge and it's like there is value

02:00:36.460 in the people who are unafraid and not that it always serves a good purpose but I hope that God

02:00:44.180 will find use in us because every once in a while when he's got a job for somebody who's unafraid

02:00:48.500 uh he might just look in our direction you know what I mean and so uh but but yeah it's uh it is

02:00:54.480 a question that's crossed my mind before I'm like why does this guy keep coming on this show

02:00:57.280 actually Laura Bacon Laura Baker and I had this conversation like why do we do this Laura's like

02:01:01.540 i don't know why but the reason is because this is the community that god brought me to

02:01:06.500 yeah that's that's just that's that is the true answer god brought me for you guys reached out

02:01:11.180 to me and we've been doing these shows regularly ever since because this is for whatever reason

02:01:15.500 god wants me here and i'm i'm just going wherever he leads me i asked laura baker if she would come

02:01:20.100 to this brohemian grove she told me she had to pray about it first and foremost and i said okay

02:01:23.700 cool and then i thought man god's gonna be like he's gonna say no for sure he's gonna say no for

02:01:27.860 sure the next thing you know she's she's emailing us and then i'm like yeah she's like i'm coming

02:01:32.120 i was like you pray to the right god did you mean i'm pretty sure he would have told you no

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02:04:35.740 Because of you guys, that we were able to, you know, especially if I'm steering it,

02:04:41.900 I was able to lean on you guys. I was able to, to glorify God because I knew that the people that

02:04:48.660 I was up there with had the same heart. And, uh, and so maybe, maybe God told you guys to show up

02:04:55.880 because I was going to need you in that moment. Uh, I set out to do a thing. I really wanted to

02:05:00.740 glorify God and, uh, and I'm new in my walk in comparison to so many other people. And this is

02:05:06.540 a really big undertaking. You know, I've been in this for what, uh, you know, you want to say three

02:05:10.840 years and and it's been gradual it's been it's been a development so the idea that i would be

02:05:16.460 so new in this and then i was going to get on a stage and i was going to try to bring glory to

02:05:20.380 the lord and hope that this pleases them i was going to be on me and um and you know i don't

02:05:26.820 know that i would have been able to do that as well as i i hope that we did with a different

02:05:31.660 crowd of people up there if you know what i mean yeah yep i'm with you uh oh by the way quick uh

02:05:37.640 Shout out to Sparrow for the $20 super chat.

02:05:41.580 It says, paying indulgences.

02:05:43.480 Thank you very much for watching the entire Candace and Pickles debate.

02:05:46.460 Hope this works.

02:05:47.420 Keep crushing, boys.

02:05:48.680 I say 20 hail top lobsters and, yeah,

02:05:52.900 tithe as much as you possibly can.

02:05:54.820 A cheerful, God loves a cheerful giver.

02:05:57.860 A cheerful giver of jewels.

02:05:59.500 A cheerful giver.

02:06:00.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:06:00.900 And we got another super chat.

02:06:02.120 We'll address, who's this? 1.00

02:06:04.780 Sick shits, does it matter? 1.00

02:06:07.060 All right. 0.99

02:06:07.460 i don't know uh shouts to matt's and love god love y'all oh all right all right thank you not

02:06:12.800 enough teased but you know not enough teased but everybody not everybody just got the memo yet

02:06:17.020 they're learning gotta go around the office and then we got some more jewels i don't know what

02:06:19.860 this stuff i don't know what they do we've gotten so many jewels lately i don't know what to do with

02:06:23.620 them are they a currency no we're uh storing them up can i get one more shout out to a couple some

02:06:29.860 people were very very kind to me like buying me stuff like carolina i'm not gonna doctor by giving

02:06:33.540 her last name she she actually oh carolina carolina yeah sorry yes yes she's awesome

02:06:38.120 she she brought me a bottle of wine i really appreciate that she bought me i remember that

02:06:42.240 she liked wine i'm like that's you that was you didn't have to but thank you so much for doing

02:06:45.520 that and some someone bought me lunch and like i was at the brown witch very nice hotel so thanks

02:06:50.860 you guys for putting me up there i was yeah yeah it is nice but you know i was i was i was having

02:06:55.360 like a cocktail to kind of wind down and someone i was ordering some i was like hey bro girl i'm

02:07:00.060 buying this for you so you guys generous retards um honestly so i appreciate honestly dude yeah for 0.89

02:07:06.560 for people that walk around with the moniker of dangerous retard uh they are real salt of the 0.86

02:07:11.980 earth wonderful people uh and it's it's surprising every time i see them because i i go this is the 0.68

02:07:18.660 i make fun of them a lot because i make fun of me and they make fun of me a lot too um but i'm

02:07:24.360 always really surprised at the quality of human that we attract uh you wouldn't think so people

02:07:30.940 from the outside looking in certainly wouldn't think so but you know it's a it's a uh it's a

02:07:35.780 mystery and god has drawn people to us that are really wonderful he graduated to generous reach 0.54

02:07:42.560 generous retards there we go that's a very funny too wrap it up right is that this yeah he did 0.57

02:07:49.200 that he's been doing a little thing to me like this yeah you can you guys can see it on screen 0.86

02:07:53.340 um yeah and let's let's tell everybody where they can find all these resources yeah so faithby

02:07:57.820 reason.net um that's where the legacy material is and that's where i'll be downloading a lot of stuff

02:08:02.140 to rebuild and i'm gonna get a solid state drive this time instead of the mechanical one so you

02:08:09.020 can also that's where you can access the spiritual warfare course uh 12 month intensive warfare

02:08:13.920 course there that's where you can also go to the shop and download that the eight hour version

02:08:19.160 of this of the spiritual warfare meditation if you need if you want to be protected throughout

02:08:24.120 the night you can get that there in the shop um yeah so if you click on shop um at the top

02:08:32.760 i think it should hope please tell me it's there okay yeah there it is the second one over

02:08:36.680 um you can get that there i'm also there is my my books here also my patreon if you um go to the

02:08:43.800 the patreon you can be a part of the monthly bible study you can also all my uh content drops there

02:08:50.100 first q a's community questions and answers i love answering the questions and and um i know i'm late

02:08:56.560 on a bunch of stuff but i i'm going to get it as i can as i completely rebuild my online life so

02:09:02.000 yeah that's where you can find everything and thank you thank you ed thank you and and uh i

02:09:07.960 look forward to the next time that we get to see you in person yeah oh i'm i think jeremiah skiba

02:09:13.360 invite me to the thing in november so i'm gonna see if i can make it out to that oh nice yeah we're

02:09:17.360 actually looking into getting our flights and everything booked we were just talking about

02:09:20.080 that today so we're definitely anybody that's listening out there in the dallas area if you're

02:09:23.980 in texas and you didn't make it or maybe you did you just want to see us again because you just

02:09:28.040 can't get enough of whatever this is uh you know we'll be at truthercon so go to truthercon.com

02:09:34.560 and you can see the lineup and you can see all the information there and i'm excited you don't

02:09:38.320 have to set anything up i'm gonna be going with my wife uh so we're gonna have like a little

02:09:42.180 vacation it'll be fun to watch other people scramble at their event yes yes yes yes and maybe

02:09:47.460 we can learn a thing or two because i think those guys do a really good job of all the logistics

02:09:51.860 and so i'll be showing up with my notebook yeah but uh until next time guys don't forget to obey

02:09:58.520 submit and comply we will see you it's a good friday oh yeah it's a good friday yeah

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