Nephilim Death Squad

00:00:00.000 Oh, Top Lops and Productions.

00:00:30.000 welcome back to nephilim death squad we're gonna do the show a little bit different today

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00:01:25.800 know the patreon we know the top lobster and where can they find you what are you doing what have you

00:01:30.700 been up to yeah so you can find me on two main places and that is my website faithbyreason.net

00:01:38.320 so tons of stuff there hundreds of hours of study material you can also join my spiritual warfare

00:01:44.280 course there so a couple of new things to talk about with the spiritual warfare course i am

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00:02:47.260 you can cancel but i want to give the nds crew that opportunity to do that um also i just dropped

00:02:53.820 a new book that is on it's called the jesus code christ final message to the church this is based

00:03:01.300 on revelation chapters one through four focusing on the seven letters of seven churches i do a deep

00:03:07.940 dive deep breakdown breakdown into all those churches well the message that jesus had because

00:03:12.580 these are epistles of jesus and we talked about the epistles of paul and peter and whatnot but

00:03:17.300 jesus wrote these letters so these are directed from him and they apply not only to those specific

00:03:22.100 churches in asia minor back then but they also they apply to all churches and to us individually

00:03:27.940 and the really cool thing about is if you lay out those churches in the order that jesus speaks to

00:03:32.020 them they actually outline all of church history from the apostolic age with the church of ephesus

00:03:37.700 to the rise of the pagan church with diatira which is where you know paganism roman catholic

00:03:42.820 catholicism came in to the reformation church at sardis all the way up to our current

00:03:46.980 church age the laodicean church which is the the post-modern um you know emergent church

00:03:53.380 and we break that down we talk about the rapture you know what is the rapture is it real did john

00:03:58.260 darby invented did the church fathers talk about it go into all that stuff and and so it's all in

00:04:03.860 this book and it's for this month only if you um if you get the book either through my website or

00:04:10.900 through my patreon then it's half off and it's also yes it's half off there and if you are a

00:04:18.740 member if you're a faith by reason member it's complimentary if you're a patreon member i'm

00:04:23.300 still setting it up on patreon you can purchase it on patreon but if you're already um one of my tier

00:04:28.340 tier one tier two or above members just hold off because i want to get it to you guys either

00:04:32.660 free or discounted based on your tier but i'm working that out excellent man it is always hard

00:04:38.120 at work this uh good news people good news you got you have more stuff we were actually covering

00:04:44.700 this sort of sort of this idea of spiritual warfare um on on straight bible just the that

00:04:50.540 this recent episode where you're talking about like uh the people that we're fighting with are

00:04:54.980 blind yeah and we're being beat up by this spiritual realm that is bullying us to hell

00:05:01.500 Yeah. And we don't even know that we're being pushed into this dark corner until you're born again.

00:05:06.300 And then when, well, who is it? Jesus was talking to Nicodemus, right? Yeah. And he said, yeah, you can't see the kingdom of God until you're born again.

00:05:14.280 Right. You could be an intellectual like Nicodemus probably was, but you can't you can't see it until you've been born again.

00:05:20.100 Right. Right. So it's like it's it's a great idea of like understanding how to see this stuff, because like even, you know, I'm born again.

00:05:26.600 But even even so, it's still hard for me to, like, see clearly, like, see perfectly exactly where I'm what I'm supposed to do.

00:05:34.280 And like, you know, we're always failing all the time, but we need as much help as possible.

00:05:38.600 Amen. Yeah. So what we do it in our course, we started out.

00:05:42.120 I think I've talked about this before. It's in like it's in four sections, four quarters for three months.

00:05:46.080 The first three months, which we just wrapped up is defense.

00:05:49.260 We're teaching you how to defend yourself.

00:05:51.960 The last post I put up, the last lesson was on the armor of God.

00:05:56.600 So how to put on the armor of God, how to know yourself, know your weaknesses, because these entities, they know you.

00:06:01.920 You have we all have a familiar spirit and they know your weaknesses.

00:06:04.400 They know how to get to you. But the very first thing I teach people in the spiritual warfare class is the most basic, which is that you already have victory.

00:06:12.880 You have already won this. Jesus gave you the authority.

00:06:16.200 So there's only two ways. There's only one way to lose a fight. And that's not to fight.

00:06:21.380 And that's the main strategy of the enemy. They want to get you not to fight.

00:06:24.440 And they do it two major ways

00:06:25.680 They try to convince you that it's not them

00:06:28.280 That they are not the ones causing your problems

00:06:31.300 They'll say it's all you

00:06:33.080 You know, it's your 1.00

00:06:34.000 You're just being a jackass 1.00

00:06:36.100 It's your fault 1.00

00:06:36.780 You just have bad luck

00:06:38.140 Bad circumstances

00:06:39.080 You were born under the wrong sign

00:06:41.720 As the old song would say

00:06:42.840 And you're just, you know

00:06:44.060 Everything that happens is your fault

00:06:45.640 But so you don't believe anything bad is happening

00:06:49.200 To you spiritually

00:06:50.080 So you don't fight against them

00:06:51.280 But the other way they do

00:06:52.760 Once you do recognize

00:06:53.840 Hey, you know what?

00:06:54.440 this is, there's a spiritual component to this. This isn't just an accident. Then they'd go the

00:06:59.260 other way and say, okay, yeah, it's us, but we're more powerful than you. We are the almighty

00:07:04.240 angels. We are the Elohim. We've been around for thousands of years. You can't fight us. You're

00:07:09.000 just, you know, you're nothing. And then you're too scared to fight. You know, my grandmother,

00:07:13.360 I used to watch the news with her growing up and she would always say, yeah, you know,

00:07:18.740 the devil's busy. You know, he's just out doing all this stuff. When she would see the news

00:07:21.820 show, the new stories. And it gave the impression to me, oh, well, it's nothing we can do. The devil

00:07:28.460 controls the world. I think we're going to probably talk about that a bit. And we're just his victims.

00:07:32.800 So if you think you're a victim, you're not going to fight. And if you think that the spiritual

00:07:36.980 realm isn't real, you're not going to fight. But I'll end with this analogy. We have the power

00:07:43.540 through Jesus. It's not our own power that we're casting him out, that we're fighting and defending

00:07:48.800 ourselves and going on the offense, it's through the power of Jesus. So we are more powerful than

00:07:54.300 these entities through Jesus. So it's like, imagine this, if you were attacked by a five-year-old boy,

00:08:00.320 what would you do? You would pick him up and throw his ass somewhere. He's just a kid. But what if 1.00

00:08:04.720 you didn't think you could beat him, beat him? What if he thought that he was more powerful than

00:08:08.420 you and you just curled up in a ball? Well, that five-year-old is just going to start wailing on

00:08:11.860 you and eventually wear you down. But if you know your power and you know how to fight, then you

00:08:17.800 can toss that kid aside and that's what we are we are the adult the spiritual realm they're the

00:08:22.780 five-year-old kid they can't beat us because we have the holy spirit inside of us we have the

00:08:26.480 spirit of god god is bigger than them so they can't beat us unless we don't fight or we don't

00:08:31.440 know how i like that idea we we were even talking before about uh the idea of the holy spirit uh

00:08:39.280 you had some issue with i guess pastor rick saying uh no i don't have an issue with i was

00:08:44.840 is asking why like some people say holy spirit instead of the holy spirit and i was just asking

00:08:49.560 why like like if in the bible he's referred to as the holy spirit or the holy ghost is it possible

00:08:55.340 like in the same way like our context for a lot of people is like there's only one god there's

00:08:59.840 only god but come to find out there's tons of lowercase g gods so like isn't it possible that

00:09:04.560 like there's other uh i'm doing finger quotes and i know this is probably blasphemy for a lot of

00:09:08.840 people is there other holy spirits if you will that are that are uh parading as the holy spirit

00:09:13.740 but there's one, the Holy Spirit, just like God says, I am the God, there's none beside me.

00:09:18.720 And so it gets, it just, to me, I just thought it was weird to hear people say Holy Spirit as

00:09:21.920 opposed to the Holy Spirit. I can tell you this. So great point there. So the word holy,

00:09:27.400 the definition of holy is of one kind. So there is only one Holy Spirit of God because the holy

00:09:33.960 means of one kind, but there are others that can imitate the voice. And that's something we

00:09:38.200 actually went over about three weeks ago in the spiritual warfare course, because this is some,

00:09:42.120 This is huge. This is something when I was canvassing my members, asking them, you know, what are you looking for in this class?

00:09:47.920 As we're trying to come up with a correction on myself and John Linhart, my co-teacher, what we hear a lot is, you know what?

00:09:53.380 I want to distinguish the voice of God from the other voices out there, because when I pray to God, I feel like I've heard something back, but I don't know if it's from God.

00:10:01.280 And that is a really serious topic because we have four voices coming at us at any one time.

00:10:07.520 We do have the voice of the Holy Spirit.

00:10:10.380 He's communicating to us all the time.

00:10:12.380 You can't be saved without him.

00:10:13.460 He's talking to everyone, whether you're a Christian or not.

00:10:15.700 He has, of course, he talks to you uniquely, but he's speaking to you.

00:10:19.300 But you also have the other three, the world, the flesh, and the devil that the Apostle

00:10:23.220 Paul talks about.

00:10:24.080 So all four voices are coming at you.

00:10:26.060 How do you distinguish which one is God's and which one is the world, the flesh, or

00:10:30.440 the devil?

00:10:32.080 And we go over that in the class and we have a whole workbook section and video session.

00:10:37.520 on that. But just know that in the Bible, the voice of God is quiet. Elijah, in the story of

00:10:45.520 Elijah in the book, I think it's first or second Kings, forgive me on that, but there was an

00:10:49.880 earthquake, but God's voice wasn't in the earthquake. There was a windstorm and God wasn't

00:10:54.080 in the windstorm. There was a flame. He wasn't in the flame. He was a still, small voice. So the

00:10:59.080 loud voices are not going to be from God. God speaks to you in a quiet voice. Why? He's bigger

00:11:04.360 than all those why do you speak into it because if i were to whisper to you right now how would

00:11:08.020 you hear me you got to lean in you got to focus that's what god wants he wants you to lean in he

00:11:13.900 says that you will find me if you seek after me with your whole heart god wants us to seek after

00:11:18.720 him so he's going to speak to us quietly we have to be focused on him to hear his voice the other

00:11:23.340 voices are screaming at us the world is screaming at us about you know you gotta you have to you

00:11:28.800 know be in politics you've got to be rich or whatever all the things that the world is telling

00:11:32.860 you all the messages that we get from the world on how to act the flesh the flesh is telling you

00:11:38.380 be comfortable you know don't go after don't don't grow grow growth hurts just be as comfortable as

00:11:44.460 you can take the easy road that's the word of the flesh the flesh always oppose the spirit the spirit

00:11:48.900 wants you to grow god wants you to continually grow the flesh wants you to just be comfortable

00:11:53.120 and have that what what john linhart calls the animal thought process or the the the comfort

00:11:58.240 level thought process and the devil always going to accuse you he's always going to say it's your

00:12:03.360 fault you're you're doing this wrong or he's going to give you um a what what john calls a right what

00:12:10.160 with a wrong how or why what that means is a right what is he'll tell you something that may be

00:12:15.200 factually true but he will give you the wrong um the wrong doctrine and the wrong context remember

00:12:22.000 when satan tempted jesus he quoted a bible verse and he quoted that verse accurately he said you

00:12:26.800 You know, if you are the son of God, throw yourself off this building because it is written that I'm paraphrasing that, you know, God will send his angels to bury you up before your foot even hits a stone.

00:12:36.940 He quoted, that's from the book of Psalms.

00:12:38.440 He quoted it accurately, but it was the wrong context.

00:12:41.460 It wasn't, the context was, hey, I'm going to dare God to do this.

00:12:44.520 If you jump off a building right now, guess what?

00:12:45.940 You're going to go splat.

00:12:47.540 Despite that verse, because that verse was, first of all, it was poetry.

00:12:50.700 It was not meant to be taken as if you throw yourself off any building, God's going to catch you.

00:12:55.060 No, you have to take it for what it means.

00:12:56.800 So he'll give you the right what, what, wrong, how, and why.

00:12:59.660 And that's where bad doctrine comes in.

00:13:02.120 You can say, oh, I read this in the Bible.

00:13:04.000 You know, I read that, you know, Jesus is a rock.

00:13:05.880 Therefore, you know, rocks are God.

00:13:07.580 Or, you know, Jesus had these living water.

00:13:09.580 So waters and rocks are God.

00:13:10.740 So I can worship nature.

00:13:12.200 So yeah.

00:13:12.500 This is getting into like the whole Peter thing and like the church built on this rock.

00:13:16.400 And it's like, oh, man.

00:13:17.740 Exactly.

00:13:18.300 Like 2,000 years later and people are losing their minds.

00:13:21.920 All bad doctrine comes from a right what or wrong how and why.

00:13:25.240 Hey, I read this in the Bible.

00:13:26.800 You know, Jesus said, love everyone, you know, God is love.

00:13:30.700 So that means God must be the love that I've defined him as, which, you know, some benevolent feeling you have, as opposed to what the real definition of love, which is sacrifice, giving without getting anything in return.

00:13:40.560 That's what love is.

00:13:41.600 But if you have the wrong definition of love, then you're going to think that love is this squishy, almost effeminate feeling, which is why we've couched Jesus in the terms of this basically wimpy, effeminate guy and a skinny guy in a white robe with a lamb under one arm and a little kid under the other arm saying, peace and love, brother, which was not what Jesus was like at all.

00:14:06.360 jesus was hardcore but we don't see that because again we have again right what wrong how or why

00:14:12.860 that's the voice of the devil and so that's how you have to distinguish those voices

00:14:16.280 we we talked about that uh same passage earlier this week that yeah satan came and he brought a

00:14:22.220 passage he said it is written but like the whole way we're supposed to be doing this is like jesus

00:14:26.180 he said yeah but it is also written like that's the whole way jesus dealt with it was like yeah

00:14:29.880 it's written but it is also written and we got to find this balance man because like always like

00:14:35.060 it seems like accurate doctrine is always found in the balance of like it is written but it is

00:14:39.120 also written like finding that instead of taking one passage and just taking out a context and

00:14:43.580 blowing it up right it has to be the right context like in the armor of god um lesson that we did a

00:14:49.600 couple weeks ago we talked the last thing that paul talks about well one of the second last thing

00:14:53.800 he talks about is the sword of the spirit and that sword is a the roman short sword and it's

00:14:59.840 only effective in close quarters and it's only effective with a lot of training so the spirit

00:15:04.040 the sword of the spirit is the word of god so you have to be trained on it you have you have to use

00:15:08.180 the right verse at the right time that's what jesus did when jesus countered satan and when

00:15:13.560 he was being tempted he he didn't just quote some random verse he had he was trained in the

00:15:18.080 scriptures and he knew the right scripture to use at the exact right time in the exact right context

00:15:22.720 and that takes training this idea of close quarters too yeah uh man maybe what we're doing

00:15:30.780 here with the online thing is a bit of a misstep because like you see a lot of uh i don't know a

00:15:37.720 lot of a lot of the con like the modern church kind of falls apart because it gets large so

00:15:44.380 it's no longer close quarters and it's now like how could you accurately strike your opponent how

00:15:49.740 could you use this weapon accurately or at all when you're over bloated but you know it's so funny

00:15:55.800 because because i know you guys have been talking about especially you talk been on talking about

00:15:59.600 the Orthodox Church stuff like the past couple months.

00:16:02.520 I know that's been kind of- 0.97

00:16:03.160 Oh, I've left you alone.

00:16:05.340 No, I get it.

00:16:06.420 But my point with that is that

00:16:08.420 we have the wrong definition of what church is.

00:16:11.500 Church is not a building.

00:16:12.900 It's not an organization. 0.85

00:16:14.600 And that's what the Orthodox and the Catholics will tell you.

00:16:17.260 Oh, we're the only true church.

00:16:18.460 You have to believe what we believe

00:16:19.840 and worship in our big, gigantic, ornate buildings

00:16:22.920 and listen to our priests who are decked out

00:16:25.200 in these pimped out robes with a big cross

00:16:27.560 with jewels all over it.

00:16:28.660 somehow that's supposed to be a representative of a humble carpenter from Nazareth? Yeah,

00:16:34.080 that is the opposite of what Jesus would have been. Jesus didn't have a home. When Jesus was

00:16:39.660 in his ministry, he only stayed with other people. He said, the son of man has no place to lay his

00:16:44.860 head. We're supposed to believe that that same Jesus, the humble itinerant rabbi should be

00:16:49.900 represented by just multimillion dollar in today's money, cathedrals and palaces. No, that's for man. 0.70

00:16:58.660 man is all about appearances. God is about the heart. Jesus didn't say, go build me a big

00:17:03.060 building. He didn't say, give me the finest robes. No, Jesus only spoke about what's in

00:17:08.920 the spirit, what's in your heart, what you're supposed to do. So the only, and the Orthodox 0.99

00:17:13.520 say that, you know, they revere the church fathers. Well, the church fathers, you know,

00:17:17.460 from two, 300 years after Christ, they're the ones who knew what church was supposed to be

00:17:21.740 conducted. And they had bishops and cardinals and whatever, and they were in these buildings

00:17:26.120 and they have all these sacraments.

00:17:27.560 So we should obey them and do church like them

00:17:30.100 because they knew what church was supposed to be.

00:17:34.080 And that's the orthodox excuse,

00:17:36.080 how they're the real church

00:17:36.980 because they're following after the church fathers.

00:17:39.260 Well, here's a huge problem with that. 0.98

00:17:41.980 We're revering these church fathers

00:17:43.100 who were 200, 300 years after Jesus

00:17:44.780 because they knew how to do things right.

00:17:46.640 Well, look at most of Paul's letters.

00:17:49.520 They were to churches that were around

00:17:51.540 between 20 and 30 years after Jesus had died and resurrected.

00:17:56.120 during the lifetime of his disciples, and they were screwing up. His letters were admonitions,

00:18:00.860 the letters to the Corinthians. They had hierarchy. They were saying, if you spoke in

00:18:05.220 tongues, you were better than Christians who didn't speak in tongues. And Paul had to chastise

00:18:08.640 them. You had to write two letters to them saying, you guys are screwing up. The church at Galatia,

00:18:12.820 they were trying to put Christians back under the law. And Paul called them fools. He said, 0.99

00:18:16.960 you foolish Galatians. Jesus freed us from that. He gave us the freedom of the Holy Spirit. Why 0.99

00:18:21.600 are you trying to put us back under that? So you can go on and on. So if the churches that were

00:18:25.680 within 20 to 30 years of Jesus, we're already screwing up to the point where half the New

00:18:29.960 Testament is Paul admonishing them and telling them how to get themselves right. Why do we

00:18:33.520 believe that church fathers 200, 300 years afterwards got it right? That makes no sense.

00:18:39.320 The only example we have of a church where things were working the way God wanted is the first half

00:18:45.360 of the book of Acts. And those churches were not in big buildings. They did not have a hierarchy.

00:18:51.220 There were no Christians who were above other Christians because of whatever reason,

00:18:55.360 because they were considered pastor, bishop, blah, blah, blah.

00:19:00.040 No, they were in houses and they were in close quarters,

00:19:03.780 like you just talked about, Tom.

00:19:04.860 That's why I'm bringing this all back to.

00:19:06.380 They would worship in churches,

00:19:07.680 just a few of them gathered together

00:19:09.200 and they shared with each other all of their struggles,

00:19:12.480 all of their victories,

00:19:13.840 and they taught each other in small groups.

00:19:17.500 That's where you get to learn

00:19:19.120 how to use the sword of the spirit,

00:19:20.740 that close quarters training.

00:19:22.380 And these big buildings where you have thousands of people, again, if that's your thing, go ahead and do it.

00:19:28.360 But you're not going to get that kind of training if you show up once a week to a mega church or a mega cathedral and you get a one way message.

00:19:35.280 Pastor teaches you say, great. And you leave. He doesn't know what's going on with you.

00:19:39.240 There's too many of you there. So the church, if you want to emulate the true church, then you should be in small groups.

00:19:45.680 amen and doesn't that fly in the face of like even your most recent book that you're talking

00:19:51.300 about it's the letter to seven churches and there's this concept of like oh we are the only

00:19:56.620 true church like it's like okay that flies in the face of like a letter to seven churches or even

00:20:00.800 paul at the end of the roman letter he he addresses like six little home churches in rome it's not

00:20:06.120 like the concept isn't like there's just one giant church and you got to belong to that one church

00:20:10.820 exactly it's contradictory and it amazes me how people can read the Bible if they are reading it

00:20:17.380 not studying it yeah they're probably reading it but not studying it how you can

00:20:20.620 claim you know the Bible and still do things that are in complete opposition to it like saying

00:20:27.220 there's only one organization there's only one church and our organization is a true Christian

00:20:31.860 and if you're not one of us you're not fully Christian there is no biblical precedent for

00:20:37.780 that. You are a Christian by believing in

00:20:39.720 the death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus

00:20:41.560 for your sins. There's no hierarchy. There's no better

00:20:43.780 Christians. There's no 1.00

00:20:44.980 super Christian. Then you're just 1.00

00:20:47.660 an okay Christian. Then you're a bad Christian. 0.98

00:20:50.100 Super Christ.

00:20:52.640 Sometimes when I

00:20:53.560 tell this stuff to Matt and I'm like, I don't think he

00:20:55.380 understands or I don't think he believes me

00:20:57.420 because when I'm saying it, he's just going,

00:20:59.620 there's no way somebody said

00:21:01.540 that to you. And I'm like, that's true.

00:21:03.540 Yeah, I'm always, I'm like, no, they wouldn't

00:21:05.180 say that, but then they do say that.

00:21:07.780 I get stuff all the time from people.

00:21:12.120 I mean, for whatever reason, a couple of years ago, I was on the radar of the Seventh-day Adventists,

00:21:16.500 and they kept telling me, you are not a true Christian if you don't worship Jesus on Saturday.

00:21:22.020 Okay, what if I worship him on Wednesday?

00:21:23.780 Does God say, nope, we're closed today.

00:21:25.460 I'm not hearing your prayers on Wednesday.

00:21:27.020 You have to worship me on Sunday.

00:21:28.940 I mean, on Saturday, rather.

00:21:30.580 You can worship Jesus anytime you want.

00:21:33.180 It's not a specific day.

00:21:35.120 Yeah.

00:21:35.240 we're doing uh the sermon on the mount and we're up to the the lord's prayer you know it's like

00:21:40.920 give and we're we're up to specifically that that point was like give us this day our daily bread

00:21:46.440 and it's like that's inferring today and that's it you get bread for today and then tomorrow you're

00:21:53.480 gonna have to ask for more bread so this is like a daily occurrence maybe even more than once a day

00:21:59.160 but yeah that's what that's what that's pretty much all we can ask for it seems like maybe if

00:22:03.800 we're a container can we be filled only for a day or temporarily before we need to be like be poured

00:22:10.840 back in again i don't know i i do believe that because in my spiritual warfare class and in my

00:22:15.960 personal spiritual warfare i have to do it every day every day when i wake up i i start my prayer

00:22:21.880 by saying you know i i i claim the authority of jesus by his blood that was shed for me

00:22:27.160 and the authority that he gave me i quote luke 10 19 that you've given us power to tread over

00:22:32.360 servants and scorpions over the power of uh over the spiritual evil and nothing shall by any means

00:22:37.240 hurt me and i pray that over myself over my family over my life over my finances over my career

00:22:42.120 everything under that every day because i found when i don't do it i get attacked so clearly that

00:22:47.720 only lasts for it's a 24-hour thing or however many hours you're awake you got to redo it because

00:22:54.120 apparently there's an expiration date on it we've done like a thousand episodes with ed and i never

00:22:58.600 asked because matt's told us a bunch of times about when when he wakes up what his process is

00:23:03.900 but that's that's your process every day you take like however much time to do this thing

00:23:08.640 yeah and when i forget to do it i i notice it and i have to stop and say okay i'm under spiritual

00:23:14.720 attack right now you know this is just some bs going on that's not normal and i've got to take

00:23:19.800 my time get in focus on god and just and and and claim that it claim the authority that i have and

00:23:26.160 get into that prayer and you know and that you know that there's that free prayer that you can

00:23:30.120 even get on faithbyreason.net if you the spiritual warfare prayer if you know that's that's not a

00:23:34.540 part of the course if you just want to pray that prayer it's a long prayer but you can pray the

00:23:38.200 sections that are pertaining to you and but i need to do that daily you got to fight every day

00:23:44.220 it's funny this this topic came up uh me and david were just on tinfoil hat again because we

00:23:49.300 got on mount crush more hold on oh sweet good good for you guys hell yeah ballers so we made

00:23:58.040 it on this and we were talking with sam and we were like the episode went a bunch of different

00:24:01.060 places but one of the the the parts that uh was important was sam was talking about this

00:24:06.240 same idea and it happened to him the previous day he was like yeah man he's like something's going

00:24:10.940 on uh i think they turned because they turned cern off and i'm just feel like i felt like under

00:24:16.520 attack and and i'm like oh yep sam like you're experiencing like a spiritual warfare and then i

00:24:22.440 told him the story about you know me experiencing the spiritual warfare but like not knowing how to

00:24:27.320 deal with it because you know i'm just you're just blind when it when i had like the whole

00:24:31.400 witchcraft thing going on in my house and i had no idea until much much later on and look back

00:24:36.920 and go oh yeah that seemed like it was witchcraft it's weird when there's this thing then that thing

00:24:41.880 and i don't know how it goes for you ed but then when it all of a sudden it's like the fourth or

00:24:45.480 fifth thing you're like okay wait a minute wait a minute this isn't this isn't normal this isn't

00:24:49.440 there's too many things like adding stacking up now it happened to you yesterday i think you were 0.92

00:24:53.500 telling me and you were like wait a second like we're so right we're so dumb like it takes it

00:24:57.500 does take like four or five things so it's well you don't want to be the type of guy who like 0.94

00:25:01.620 slams their finger in the door and things that there's a some slam your finger in the door demon

00:25:05.400 going but you want to be uh you know aware of when it's like okay too many things are stacking

00:25:13.720 up now something's up something's up this isn't normal yeah i try go ahead go ahead okay well one

00:25:20.140 of the things we teach in the spiritual warfare class are your specific triggers like i said

00:25:24.440 earlier you have a familiar spirit that knows you knows your strongholds and you're going to find

00:25:29.680 that you're always going to be tempted or fallen in usually three areas at least three areas

00:25:34.340 because it knows just like when jesus was tempted in three areas you know turn to the other stones

00:25:39.120 into bread, which was satisfy your flesh or religious pride or taking a compromise. Don't

00:25:46.420 worry about going to the cross. Just worship me and I don't need to be the nation. You don't have

00:25:49.180 to go through all this stuff. We have our areas that we always fall in. So once you learn what

00:25:55.200 those areas are and how to deal with those triggers, then you're going to know specifically

00:25:58.880 that this is spiritual because it's coming at me in one of the places that I always fall. It comes

00:26:03.620 at me in one of my triggers and we teach you how to get rid of those triggers. Well, you'll never

00:26:08.180 get rid of how to manage them so that you know so the more you know that you can see quickly oh i'm

00:26:13.640 under spiritual attack oh and second thing real quick i didn't mention um i'm recording an episode

00:26:18.120 with sam next week so um just yesterday mark um emailed me and said hey yeah can you do next week

00:26:25.820 so i don't know how when it'll air but i think we're recording it next week what do you uh what

00:26:30.180 do you think you're going to cover what's the topic spiritual warfare right i don't talk about

00:26:34.300 talk about my course and because i know that's something that that's uh kind of big with sam

00:26:38.940 and so yeah i i pitched it and like the next day he was like yeah come on so dude so yeah by the

00:26:45.920 time our episode airs yours will probably be either the the one right after it or maybe so

00:26:52.140 yeah tinfoil hat listeners you're gonna get blapped up with uh some spiritual stuff something's

00:26:57.640 happening though dude something's happening like a an awakening with whatever you call i don't know

00:27:02.160 what you call your space i just call it the conspiracy theory podcast space but within that

00:27:06.580 area of like people seeking out truth and like real ones like the stuff that happens in our

00:27:10.980 patreon is crazy dude it's crazy what's happening in the chat dude there's an awakening and people

00:27:15.960 are coming to christ and people who like didn't see stuff before are being like woken up and

00:27:20.540 something's happening well not just that it's going on tinfoil hat like that's a big deal dude

00:27:24.500 well that's this is where we found it but like you're going back in such a close proximity to

00:27:29.080 us like going back on and we we happen to just get invited on randomly like it wasn't scheduled

00:27:33.980 it was because like we won this thing and then we're on and and then you're on but uh yeah it

00:27:39.000 seems like people are picking sides like i said like what do you mean there are people in the

00:27:44.980 conspiracy realm and we've seen a bunch of them so far either they're they've picked christ and

00:27:51.200 they say it out loud and then people have picked the other side yeah and they as a matter of fact

00:27:57.080 to say like yeah not christ out loud not yet no no some of these people have said yes not christ

00:28:03.860 i know some of them and but it's like it's very clear there is no delineation there's no like

00:28:09.820 gray areas of what's happening here hot or cold and we're getting to that moment

00:28:15.260 the lukewarmness and and yeah to piggyback what you were just saying top youtube matt that

00:28:21.020 there's something happening because normally when i i sent again that pitch out to i'm saying a few

00:28:26.880 pitches out because i want to start you know promoting the course more now that we've got

00:28:30.300 into a groove and we're really john and i are really happy with the way things are going and

00:28:33.260 we feel more comfortable bringing more people into it but you know i sent the pitch out and

00:28:37.120 you know normally i would expect him to say hey you know if he says yes you know i mean three

00:28:40.420 months from now you'll be on the show but to him to say next week i think that you know this is i

00:28:45.180 think this is god working saying we need this out now because there's there's some kind of zeitgeist

00:28:50.300 happening out of curiosity when did when did you hit him up of like wednesday i think

00:28:57.260 dude okay yeah that's when we were on so you probably messaged him right after he finished

00:29:04.920 talking to us about just that maybe and you're like oh that's crazy that's crazy and it sounds

00:29:10.920 like that's a conspiracy right like me and ed conspired like i'm gonna hit this i had we had

00:29:16.780 no to be honest with that with that episode you know how they he's like oh email us uh um talking

00:29:21.760 points you know they're like an organized show than nds and uh it was the day of and mark is

00:29:28.220 calling us he's like dude you have to email us and me and daniel were like we don't we because

00:29:33.240 we do a lot of interviews and we talk about a lot of things so like we're not necessarily

00:29:36.680 specializing in one subject and we just go yeah let's hit some current events and then we go hey

00:29:42.600 can we tell our story? And our story just happens to deal with the basically spiritual warfare on

00:29:48.300 both sides. And they said, yeah, okay. So it was, that was completely organic and it's not usual

00:29:55.000 for tinfoil hat. Ed knows you go on tinfoil hat, you you're bringing a subject, you're hitting that

00:30:00.460 and you're trying to like bring that home, whatever the information. Yeah. Cause Sam gets

00:30:05.080 on his stream of consciousness, which is all good. I mean, it's his show. He always has good

00:30:08.580 questions, but he'll start with like something that's on his mind that he's been thinking about

00:30:12.220 that's related to what you're talking about and then you know you kind of kind of circle back

00:30:15.560 to uh you know to what to the point you want to talk about as well yeah yeah so so it really is

00:30:22.440 a war like we're talking about man it's a kingdom like it's there's a kingdom satan's got a kingdom

00:30:26.540 god has a kingdom there's a war going on and sometimes things are stacking up for the bad

00:30:30.800 and sometimes things are stacking up for the good like what we're what you guys are spelling out

00:30:34.420 right now is like things that are just stacking up for the good that happen to be like coincidental

00:30:38.860 timing well it's stacking up for the good there's good but like yeah like the forces of bad are

00:30:43.940 they're they're making a strong play to get their dudes and their dudes are there you know one of

00:30:49.820 the people that uh matt i guess we'll just put it out there matt's been working on like close to his

00:30:54.380 heart is like uh thomas from paranoid american have you spoke with him before um you know i i did

00:30:59.700 a pitch to him and he never got back to me i'm like you know no it's fine you know it's whatever

00:31:03.140 it's your show but so yeah i um because heidi um like introduced us and i gave him a pitch and i

00:31:09.340 just you know just never got back to me okay we'll get you on his show he probably missed it he

00:31:13.680 probably missed the email that's yeah yes no it's no no no shade no whatever it's not but yeah but

00:31:18.180 i do know who he is to answer your question yeah but like matt's like this dude's this dude's

00:31:23.640 powerful like you get this guy you know on our side for lack of better terms like that's a big

00:31:29.480 deal and uh do you want to tell you want to tell them what happened no i don't even know what you're

00:31:34.520 talking about like the whole conversation with them like from the beginning i don't even know

00:31:38.120 during the episode what happened during that episode no i don't know it just was wild it was

00:31:42.880 just the guys like on it but we had a whole episode before we started filming yeah we were sitting here

00:31:47.660 and we we filmed them in the big room but uh we're sitting here and they're they're like going back

00:31:52.460 and forth and thomas is asking him hard questions about the bible and that's just like well right

00:31:57.040 here is what it says and and i could tell i'm like oh thomas is impressed but he's coming from

00:32:01.040 uh like an occult background like leaning that way and i'm watching i'm like there's a battle

00:32:07.560 happened like there's a short sword battle happening right here and but it was it was

00:32:11.560 here's where he's turning the corner though and ed i would love for you to jump in on on this with

00:32:16.040 him too man i gave him the uh dave hunt book a woman rides the beat so i think what was happening

00:32:23.200 was that like his whole context for the bible was in light of like catholicism and now and then he's

00:32:28.480 reading that and he's like okay wait wait so wait there's this whole other light that this is supposed

00:32:33.480 to be viewed in it's the bible and catholicism is something totally different and so he's been

00:32:38.380 he's been like hammering me telling me about stuff that he's reading in that book and then he's

00:32:42.100 looking up the sources that dave hunt was sourcing he's going and looking that stuff up and so he's

00:32:46.980 just on the path you know he just seems like a dude right but what happens when there's a dude

00:32:51.200 on the path and you have another dude who's like

00:32:53.280 yeah yeah this is the way come on

00:32:55.340 as you do in the interview you told me

00:32:57.280 afterward you're like dude I thought I was going to pass out

00:32:59.160 or so like what happened no it was just like heavy

00:33:01.220 it was just like heavy you know like it was

00:33:02.880 Matt's like super healthy dude this guy's always

00:33:05.140 walking he's looking directly at the sun

00:33:06.840 all this stuff like you gotta do all that you don't sun your 0.96

00:33:09.060 butthole right no 0.95

00:33:10.000 but I'm not knocking anybody

00:33:13.060 who does I guess that's popular now

00:33:14.740 so it's whatever

00:33:16.600 healthy to do your thing but

00:33:18.540 I thought doing red light therapy was like me taking a big

00:33:21.020 step forward but i'm not you know but having to having sunshine on the sphincter that's that's a

00:33:24.240 new that's a new one oh red light is the thing dude red light's very healthy but no i just got

00:33:28.360 like i said well i'm just i'm just getting old and i just need to be healing more so i just i

00:33:32.980 invested in one of those nice nice yeah no it's just clear that there's spirit forces like fighting

00:33:38.740 like that stuff's going on around you like in those conversations no it just got weird i don't

00:33:43.540 remember the details but it was just heavy there was just a heavy presence in the room man and

00:33:48.340 And there's heaviness in that, that I've been experiencing, like the spiritual warfare against

00:33:52.340 me has ramped up. I mean, when, when we, when I started forming this course earlier, well,

00:33:56.340 late last year, the tax got greater and I just dedicated myself in the last couple of weeks.

00:34:01.820 It's so interesting. John and I were talking and I was saying, you know what? I want to do this

00:34:05.420 full time. I don't, I want this to be my main job. And so I've been, you know, dedicating more time

00:34:11.080 to it and putting out more content and just looking at a lot of ways to, to get this material

00:34:16.900 the message out there and the more i do that the heavier things have gotten like in my personal life

00:34:21.780 like my mother's been under attack for certain reasons some bad things been happening on her

00:34:25.460 side and you know my wife's been experiencing some things it's just been ramping up seriously

00:34:30.740 and because because i think the the enemy knows we don't want i mean this isn't about bragging

00:34:35.860 about me it's about all glory goes to god so i don't want this message getting out so i'm going

00:34:40.980 going to try to basically you know pound me into the sand and what that tells me no you don't want

00:34:46.620 this out that i want it out even more because the last the last quarter the last three months of the

00:34:52.220 spiritual warfare class is about being generative and teaching other people what you've been taught

00:34:57.320 like the first quarter is defense second quarter which we're on now it's going on offense third

00:35:02.060 quarter special situations like you know when you're dealing with serious attack you know uh

00:35:06.240 really powerful entities dealing with addictions and stuff like that then the third is teaching

00:35:10.880 everyone how to teach other people it's building an army take everything we've taught you and here

00:35:16.340 is how you build a community and introduce this into your community because we have people from

00:35:20.840 all over the world we have people from australia and canada who are part of the class right now

00:35:24.540 and we're like look i'm never gonna you know i'm i don't i'd love to go to australia at some point

00:35:28.680 but it's not in my in my current purview this is your area you can build an army where you are in

00:35:33.980 your community which i'm never going to go to and then they can build and so forth and so on and we

00:35:37.820 build an army and i know the enemy doesn't want that yeah it's like that's this is part of the

00:35:43.320 story i was telling on tinfoil hat and you guys could listen to the whole thing but there was a

00:35:47.100 very critical moment i probably had told you at some point ed where when i first moved to florida

00:35:51.980 had no intention of doing this show or even being on the path that i'm on now and every single thing

00:35:57.560 in my life was like turn back like whether it be money sickness uh you name it everything's like

00:36:04.520 you can go back you can go right back go to the job you can go get another house go back just go

00:36:10.020 back don't do this and i was this close to doing it and quitting and i was like that's the you know 0.85

00:36:15.560 the the motto of this show is kind of well my motto is too retarded to stop because all signs 0.84

00:36:21.520 yeah all signs say stop like like you're at a point where you're being attacked and you're like 0.84

00:36:27.120 it would just i know if i stopped right now it would be it would alleviate the pressure

00:36:31.440 of like that boot on my neck but i'm just too dumb to stop so you say that's when you're closest

00:36:37.460 to breakthrough though ed like a lot of times like uh like it just comes the craziest right

00:36:42.160 before something's about something good is about to happen right because i think understand this

00:36:46.980 because this is going to get to and i'm sure we'll get we'll get to um uh some of the stuff

00:36:51.100 about hell and things like that it's about having the the wrong premise and and and knowing what

00:36:58.500 what God knows and what he doesn't know, God doesn't know how faithful you're going to be

00:37:03.880 because we're introduced to a free choice. So a lot of the things are God saying, okay,

00:37:08.860 I know you said you're down for me. You're going to do what I ask you to do, and you're all high

00:37:13.500 holy Christian, but are you going to do it when the going gets rough? Are you going to hang in

00:37:18.080 there when things don't look good? Or are you only going to obey me and do my work when I'm

00:37:24.160 blessing you and so i think that's one of the reasons why it gets so bad right before it gets

00:37:29.080 good because god wants to know how far can how how bad can things get before you reject me you

00:37:36.280 know it goes back to job you know when the hasatan which by the way is not the same as the serpent

00:37:42.940 from the garden of eden then nakash that serpent from the hasatan in job was actually a believe it

00:37:49.160 or not a good angel and we can talk about that because it's another misconception people have

00:37:52.800 He was part of the contingent says that there came a time when the sons of God came to present themselves before the before God

00:37:58.640 And the the hasatan comes with them. He was part of that contingent

00:38:03.280 He had a job to do his job was to test people to see if they would obey jehovah under adversity and and god says to him

00:38:09.980 What about job? So if if the hasatan and job is actually the bad guy, then that makes god the villain because god said do this to job 0.52

00:38:20.260 And the Hasatan said, okay, well, if I take away all his stuff, he won't serve you. 0.79

00:38:25.320 And God said, go ahead and do it. 0.95

00:38:26.700 So then who's responsible for what happened to Job?

00:38:30.220 God is. 0.98

00:38:31.100 So if the Hasatan is a bad guy, then that makes God the villain of the book of Job. 0.84

00:38:35.880 But in any case, my point is that Job worshiped him and Job was great. 0.92

00:38:40.160 God bragged about Job, but Job had a lot of stuff.

00:38:44.160 Job was the richest guy in his area.

00:38:45.800 and the house of talent said that if i take away all this stuff if i test him that way

00:38:50.220 i'm not gonna have he's gonna he's gonna reject you and god said give it a try because god didn't

00:38:54.040 know but job acquitted himself very well he'd never cursed god and god came to him and in the

00:39:00.040 and the moral of the story of the book of job is that job never asked god why do you think

00:39:04.260 for happening to him he asked everyone else he asked his friends and all that but god said i

00:39:09.260 know everything why why didn't you come to me and job's response at the end was from now on i will

00:39:15.120 ask you and I will expect an answer. So what God did was he improved his relationship with Job

00:39:19.960 through that. So again, I'm preaching on Job, but the whole point is that God is going to test you

00:39:25.020 to see, are you going to walk with me when things get rough? Or are you going to turn back? Can I

00:39:30.660 trust you? Is what he's going to be asking you always. Can I trust you? And it's up to us to

00:39:36.840 answer that question. It's like Job got accused of the prosperity gospel. He's like, he's only

00:39:43.920 They're in you for the benefits he gets, man.

00:39:46.280 Right.

00:39:47.080 And that's why a lot of these people who do the prosperity stuff.

00:39:50.460 I'm sorry.

00:39:52.120 You can't see it, but there are rules written on the door over here that said our friends are not your friends.

00:39:57.500 But I think you guys are friends now.

00:40:00.660 We're tight.

00:40:01.560 Yeah.

00:40:01.760 Sorry, Dave.

00:40:03.500 Yeah.

00:40:03.840 So God has to know if he can trust you.

00:40:06.220 He will find a way every day to ask you, will you trust me?

00:40:10.000 And it's tough because sometimes, you know, I'm like, I don't want to trust you in this.

00:40:13.500 This is too rough.

00:40:14.800 And he'll know how far he can go.

00:40:16.420 And not everyone's going to go the same length.

00:40:18.860 You know, we talk about Abraham.

00:40:21.200 Because someone brought up, because we do our live coaching.

00:40:23.500 If you're at the higher tier of our spiritual warfare class, you get live coaching with myself and John for a couple hours every month.

00:40:29.840 And they brought up Abraham and sacrificing Isaac.

00:40:34.500 And one of them asked him, am I going to be asked to do that?

00:40:36.820 Because that seemed so cruel to me that God would ask Abraham to sacrifice his son.

00:40:40.860 well because God knew Abraham's heart God's only going to ask you to do

00:40:46.140 something that you already have faith for he would not ask me to sacrifice my

00:40:50.180 son because I don't have Abraham's faith yet I'm building towards it but by the

00:40:52.980 time God asked Abraham to do that Abraham we find later in the book of

00:40:56.900 Hebrews Abraham knew that God would have to resurrect Isaac so basically Abraham

00:41:02.700 was like hey if you want me to kill him fine but that's that's your problem

00:41:05.480 because you told me that you're going to raise up a great nation through my son

00:41:09.740 Isaac. So if I kill Isaac, you're going to have to resurrect him. That was Abraham's mindset. He 0.79

00:41:14.980 had that much faith. So asking him to do that was not as great an act of faith as asking you or me

00:41:21.600 to sacrifice our children. I'm not at that level. But God will ask me to trust him to a degree that

00:41:29.700 he's already built up my faith for. He built up Abraham's faith to the point where Abraham

00:41:34.560 figured that he would resurrect Isaac. He said, Isaac's not a problem. And I'll stab him. I'll

00:41:40.220 put a knife in his heart and you got to raise him back up again. That was Abraham's level of faith. 0.96

00:41:44.320 So it wasn't cruel. It was the same as if I have faith in believing that God's going to keep

00:41:49.580 prospering me in my ministry. And he'll test me in that, but it's not a cruel test because he knows

00:41:55.800 that I have that level of faith, but he wants to push me to see how far can I push you? How much

00:42:01.440 do you trust me but it's individual it's not so he's not going to ask every a random christian

00:42:07.380 who just became to came to christ like a week ago to make that level sacrifice because their faith

00:42:13.120 hasn't been built to that level yet that's it's such a crazy concept to um like wrap wrap your

00:42:20.920 head around around like what god knows what what he doesn't know i don't know what what's your take

00:42:29.960 on that like uh that what god knows yeah well correct me if i'm wrong ed but he knows everything

00:42:35.700 right well he's he's all-knowing ed doesn't think you don't know what you do so what all-knowing

00:42:42.260 means is that god has all information that exists he knows every if every piece of information that

00:42:47.220 exists god has it what god doesn't have is information that doesn't exist the choice i'm

00:42:54.660 going to make tomorrow doesn't exist yet because i haven't made it so god doesn't know now god he

00:42:59.100 knows our causes. He knows our tendencies, but he doesn't know. If he did know everything that

00:43:03.940 happened, because this is a huge thing that I grew up believing, so I'm not getting on a high

00:43:08.400 horse saying that I have this superior doctrine because I'm just so much better. No, this was

00:43:12.640 something fairly recent within the last few years that I had to be brought to understanding that

00:43:18.480 God does not know what individuals of free will are going to do before they do it, because if

00:43:23.240 if he did, we wouldn't have free will. If God, if our existence is a movie that God already saw,

00:43:30.760 then we can't make choices. Not only can we not make choices because they've already been made,

00:43:34.860 but God can't interact with us. How can you interact with someone who's in a movie you've

00:43:40.200 already watched? God doesn't know what we're going to do before we do it. Now, in a counter

00:43:47.120 to that as well, if that's the case, then how can God give out prophecy? What about the book of

00:43:50.560 Revelation. God can predict what he's going to do. And the book of Revelation is full of things

00:43:56.980 that God's going to do. So he's in full control. He can say, I'm going to pour out my bowls of

00:44:00.920 wrath. He can say, I'm going to have these trumpet judgments. Or he can do that because he's in

00:44:05.880 control. So God can accurately predict with 100% specificity what he's going to do because he's in

00:44:10.980 control of that. He can also prophesy what entities without a free will are going to do.

00:44:17.900 entities that have been judged no longer have a free will. The entity we call Satan doesn't have

00:44:24.340 free will anymore. He's been judged. That's why God can say, here's what he's going to do,

00:44:29.600 because he's already spoken it. In the book of Daniel, when you get to the four beasts that

00:44:36.160 Daniel saw in chapter seven, Daniel was viewing the plan of the fallen Elohim in advance, that

00:44:45.420 they were going to bring about their final kingdom through four kingdoms, through Babylon,

00:44:49.900 then Medo-Persia, then Greece, and then the indescribable beast, which turns out to be Rome.

00:44:55.020 And then who still rules the world today. People say the Roman Empire fell. It didn't fall. It just

00:45:01.160 went from being a dictatorship to a theocracy that we call Roman Catholicism. And who still

00:45:07.780 have tacit control through their bankers. That's a whole other thing. But they're still in control

00:45:12.140 today and through that final empire is where he's going to bring in the antichrist the little horn

00:45:16.300 full of eyes that's going to that's basically going to be their false christ and so that's why

00:45:21.660 in daniel god can say okay got it that's what you're going to do now here's my counter move

00:45:26.380 i'm going to bring a son of man riding on the clouds and he will inherit the nations

00:45:30.140 and he is going to defeat you so basically we have the whole story of the end times everything

00:45:34.940 that's going to happen in the book of daniel the rest of the bible is just that all playing out

00:45:39.340 the actual the specific ways that you know that he's going to bring about his kingdom

00:45:44.380 so that's how god could could rightly and justly judge and tell the future there because the 0.53

00:45:49.820 fallen elohim already spoke it and it's going to come to pass and so god can basically react to

00:45:54.620 that but he doesn't know what we are going to do specifically he can know our tendencies so he can

00:46:01.020 say that all the world will worship the antichrist why because when he says all the world he's

00:46:05.420 speaking, most people, because he knows our tendencies. We have an unbroken record of

00:46:10.440 choosing someone other than him, but not everyone will because there'll be saints during the

00:46:14.220 tribulation. There will be people who are, who are saved. So not everyone, but most people,

00:46:18.240 the world will follow the antichrist, but some people won't. So again, here's what I like to

00:46:26.280 say when people really doubt this, if God knows what everyone's going to do before he does it,

00:46:31.100 then John 3.16 is meaningless.

00:46:34.000 It says, for God so loved the world,

00:46:35.120 he gave his only begotten son

00:46:36.300 that whosoever believes

00:46:39.000 will not perish, but have eternal life.

00:46:42.840 Whosoever means, I don't know,

00:46:44.340 who's going to, maybe five people,

00:46:45.860 maybe a million, maybe a billion.

00:46:47.200 I don't know, but whosoever.

00:46:49.340 Otherwise he would say,

00:46:50.140 I've given my son so that 3,1497 people

00:46:54.000 will be saved.

00:46:55.360 He doesn't know that.

00:46:57.060 That's like a very,

00:46:57.960 that's your hope is witness sort of idea, right?

00:47:00.360 Right.

00:47:00.620 If God knows what we're going to do before we do it, then there's no choice.

00:47:05.120 If there's no choice, then we can't love because love is a choice.

00:47:08.960 You cannot love someone by compulsion.

00:47:13.740 God doesn't get what he wants if we don't have a free will.

00:47:18.840 But he gives us a choice.

00:47:20.220 It would make no sense.

00:47:22.320 And that's what your previous guest talked about.

00:47:24.980 And I think it was unfortunately a false premise that led to a lot of his incorrect conclusions was that because God knows everything, Satan could not have been a fallen angel because God would have never created an angel that he knew was going to fall.

00:47:40.600 And he's right. God would not have created an angel who he knew was going to fall. He didn't know.

00:47:45.340 He gave Adam and Eve a choice. Don't eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

00:47:51.500 If they had no real choice, then God putting that tree there would be cruel.

00:47:54.980 because that would be God saying

00:47:56.880 I know you guys are going to screw up and you're going to die 0.98

00:47:58.840 but I'm going to hear you're going to do it anyway

00:48:00.620 yeah that's unjust so the episode

00:48:02.960 you're talking about is the primordial

00:48:05.100 origin of Satan with Jed

00:48:06.760 and

00:48:07.680 yeah so you had some

00:48:10.120 you had some countering ideas to this so can you

00:48:12.880 just start from the

00:48:13.780 beginning that premise is

00:48:16.580 the focal point of

00:48:18.700 where you think he's getting this wrong and then

00:48:20.500 extrapolating from there it all goes downhill

00:48:22.560 yeah from what I

00:48:24.700 understand, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but from listening to the episode, what I

00:48:28.000 understand, his premise was that God knows what everyone's going to do before they do it. And

00:48:35.000 because, and by believing that he had to take, he believes that premise is correct. And by believing

00:48:39.980 it's correct, that's going to affect his entire view of the Bible. And so that's why he doesn't

00:48:47.560 believe that the Satan, the Nakash, the initial rebel, Lucifer, whatever you want to call him,

00:48:55.700 cannot have been an angel created by God because if God knew he was going to fall,

00:49:01.540 then it would have been unjust for God to create an entity that he knew was going to do all these

00:49:06.140 terrible things. Therefore, he has to be something else. I think he said he may have come out of the

00:49:11.560 primordial darkness of, you know, in Genesis chapter one. And so that has to build on other

00:49:18.800 things. And the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is something different than what it actually

00:49:22.460 is. And I think he said that Adam and Eve were empowering Satan and that we empowered him. And

00:49:29.400 that so by the time you get to the book of Job, he was supposed to be crawling on his belly. But by

00:49:32.820 the time you get to the book of Job, he's standing there. So that means that he's been made more

00:49:37.800 powerful through what we've done. So all of these things stem from that incorrect assumption,

00:49:45.040 that false premise that God knows what everyone's going to do before they do it. And if that premise

00:49:50.180 was correct, then he'd have a point. Then it wouldn't make any sense for God to have created

00:49:55.500 a being he knew was going to fall. It would not make sense for Adam and Eve. Hell wouldn't make

00:50:02.200 sense. It would be cruel of God to, if he knew that who was going to hell and not do anything

00:50:07.980 about it. It would be like, if I knew that there was a guy down the street who was going to assault

00:50:11.640 a little girl next week, if I knew that for a fact and I did nothing about it, what would that

00:50:16.580 say about me? So it was almost like saying, well, God knows that most people are going to hell and

00:50:23.300 he's like, okay, fine. Such for you guys. You guys are going to spend eternity as a charcoal

00:50:26.480 brickhead. So then he has to change. Well, that does not sound like the character of God. Therefore, 1.00

00:50:32.200 there must be a mechanism by which everyone is saved and so then he says okay well then the bible

00:50:38.520 says all will come to salvation so that must be what that we must eventually be all be saved

00:50:44.680 because uh god would not knowingly do that god is not that cruel and again if his premise was

00:50:49.880 correct he'd have a point but that premise is not correct because and then when you look at

00:50:55.480 because then the issue is when you have a false premise and it leads you to your to doctrine

00:51:00.040 being incorrect, it eventually leads God to being something he's not. Because think about this.

00:51:05.240 If you are going to be saved and spend eternity with God, no matter what,

00:51:10.180 then if you're going to be the bride of Christ, whether you like it or not, that makes Jesus a 0.98

00:51:13.820 rapist. You say, hey, sorry, you're going to marry Jesus, whether you like it or not. Even 0.97

00:51:18.980 if you choose to reject Jesus. I've known some very rabid atheists who hate God. They say,

00:51:25.960 I don't want, even if your God is real, I don't want anything to do with him. I don't like him

00:51:29.440 for x number x reason so god would have to violate their sovereignty and say i don't care

00:51:34.160 that you reject me you're going to be a part of my kingdom whether you like it or not

00:51:37.960 so what do you what do you make of the idea of the scripture we were reading previously where

00:51:42.680 it's like well like i i agree with that idea that uh i not that i agree with the idea that

00:51:49.320 you're going to be a part of my kingdom whether you like it or not but you are going to proclaim

00:51:53.900 that christ is lord whether you like it oh every knee will bow and every tongue will confess yeah

00:51:58.660 Yeah, I don't think that's willingly, though. 0.84

00:52:00.180 Oh, no, it's not.

00:52:02.200 Jesus said, you know, I'm sorry, I've got to remember.

00:52:06.340 He said, so what if you claim, you know, that Jesus is Lord?

00:52:10.100 The demons know this, and they tremble.

00:52:13.340 You know, the demons knew who Jesus was before his own disciples did.

00:52:16.740 Remember when Jesus was casting out the demoniac, I think it was in Capernaum somewhere, and

00:52:22.000 he said, what have we to do with you, O Jesus, Son of the Most High?

00:52:25.520 They knew who he was.

00:52:26.820 They proclaimed it.

00:52:27.580 It doesn't mean they couldn't be saved.

00:52:30.620 They were doomed.

00:52:31.440 They knew this.

00:52:32.620 But just knowing-

00:52:33.360 He said, you come to torment us before the time.

00:52:35.120 We just read it today, yeah.

00:52:36.560 Exactly.

00:52:37.860 So yeah, you're going to bow down forcibly.

00:52:40.340 You're going to acknowledge that Jesus is Lord,

00:52:42.940 but it's a little too late for that.

00:52:44.040 You've already rejected him.

00:52:46.080 Because you're not going to,

00:52:47.240 anyone who spends eternity separated from God

00:52:49.000 is not going to be like, hey, where am I?

00:52:50.820 What happened?

00:52:51.300 They're going to know, oh, I rejected God.

00:52:54.520 And that is the true torment of hell.

00:52:56.820 is not because you're going to be on fire.

00:52:59.640 You're not going to have flesh in hell.

00:53:02.300 Every person, entity who's in hell is spirit.

00:53:06.120 And we have this idea that it would be cruel

00:53:07.440 for someone to be set on fire for eternity.

00:53:09.860 Yeah, it would be, 0.53

00:53:10.880 but you're not going to be flesh and blood.

00:53:12.460 We can't superimpose our idea of our physical pain.

00:53:15.420 I mean, I've been burned before.

00:53:16.920 You know, I like to cook

00:53:18.800 and it was one time I had a pan in the oven.

00:53:21.120 You know, I was finishing off a steak in the oven

00:53:22.420 and I took it out with potholders

00:53:23.600 and then I kind of forgot about that

00:53:24.780 and I grabbed it again. 0.80

00:53:25.500 I'm like, holy crap. 0.90

00:53:26.060 and I got a second degree burn. 0.95

00:53:27.200 It hurt.

00:53:28.560 And now I just huddled it for a second.

00:53:31.100 For eternity, I could not imagine that.

00:53:33.300 But we're not going to be in our flesh and blood bodies.

00:53:36.200 Not we, but people who are going to be,

00:53:38.040 there will not be in flesh and blood bodies.

00:53:39.440 They're going to be spirit.

00:53:40.700 They will be tormented.

00:53:41.420 And I believe that torment is not, oh, I'm so hot.

00:53:44.780 I think the torment is I'm spending eternity

00:53:46.940 separated from God.

00:53:48.660 I'm spending eternity not being what I was intended to be.

00:53:51.740 We said that today.

00:53:53.060 That torment of knowing that.

00:53:53.820 and that is just because they chose it. Everyone who is going to be in hell is there for one

00:53:58.740 reason. They rejected the invitation to heaven. God does not send anyone to hell. God invites

00:54:04.420 everyone to heaven. And it is your decision whether you're going to accept that invitation

00:54:08.380 or not. And if you don't accept it, what can God justly do? Force you? Now, so here's the thing.

00:54:16.740 If he's right, then there's no loss for me and you guys. So we'll be, I guess, you know,

00:54:22.740 one day we'll be in the new Jerusalem partying with Hitler. 0.92

00:54:25.180 We'll be there and hey, Adolf, you know, you're right. 1.00

00:54:27.340 Those Jews sucked. 1.00

00:54:28.500 I mean, that's, I mean, that's, but if, but if he's wrong, 0.99

00:54:31.740 here's a danger, if he's wrong and someone believes that,

00:54:34.520 that I'm going to be saved no matter what, that's the problem.

00:54:38.860 Wait, what is, well,

00:54:39.780 so what is the passage then that we're saying that there was a passage brought

00:54:43.140 up that said that everybody's going to be saved?

00:54:45.340 There are several passages brought up that, you know,

00:54:47.140 that says, you know, all will come to the knowledge of Christ.

00:54:49.180 All will be saved.

00:54:50.640 But salvation is for all.

00:54:52.740 And it is.

00:54:54.320 Everyone can be saved, but that doesn't mean there's still a choice involved.

00:54:59.700 Jesus died for everyone.

00:55:01.940 There is no person Jesus didn't die for.

00:55:04.100 There is no sin Jesus did not die for.

00:55:07.400 So salvation is available to everyone.

00:55:09.860 Jesus died for the whole world.

00:55:11.760 But that doesn't mean all the world is going to accept it.

00:55:15.860 Yeah, so you're kind of refuting Calvinism, if you will, to say that God didn't put the good at the beginning of time.

00:55:21.620 like that's not that's not what the bible is talking about it's no it's it's for everyone

00:55:25.420 but everyone won't choose it exactly that's because that's part of that's part of calvinism

00:55:30.860 that's you know that's part of the two of the unconditional election irresistible grace so

00:55:35.340 unconditional election means that god just chose you before time okay you're going to heaven you're

00:55:38.640 going to hell nothing you can do about it so then what's the point of evangelism and then

00:55:42.360 irresistible grace means that no matter if god chose you if he said that you know matt you're

00:55:46.720 going to heaven and you're like i don't want to irresistible grace eventually it's like a holy

00:55:51.160 tractor beam to use like a star trek analogy is just gonna he's just gonna draw you in it's

00:55:55.440 irresistible which again both of those things violates human sovereignty they violate free

00:56:00.460 will and it makes god's will of none effect because you can't choose him well i i'll push

00:56:05.960 back on that like i i said that i said that myself i said absolutely i go ahead mason walk right in

00:56:11.720 front of the camera it's fine bump it it's cool um i said absolutely not like i'm not going to do

00:56:18.460 that i'm not going to choose and and yeah i don't know kind of like a holy tractor beam

00:56:22.620 well there is i mean that's why calvinism is attractive to some people because because there

00:56:27.500 is an element of that i'm not calvinistic but there is an element where i'm like wow god drew

00:56:32.380 me to him not just oh no i didn't i'm not saying that god won't draw you to him it's not grace is

00:56:37.760 the the definition of grace is is the uh the greek word chorus which means the divine influence on

00:56:43.400 the heart and its reflection in life it's not unmerited favor that's another that's completely

00:56:47.500 incorrect you can just look at the at the greek um in any interlinear bible so yes the holy spirit

00:56:53.140 is always drawing you towards him but it's not you can still say no i mean top yes you were drawn i

00:56:59.540 was drawn to him so it but it wasn't irresistible grace it was just grace grace what i mean like to

00:57:05.960 you and i i did say no i said no and i said no never no but i'm still here doing if you saw me

00:57:16.020 15 years ago, I'm doing the same thing that I was doing 15 years ago, but at a much, much higher

00:57:21.860 level when I said no, never. It's crazy. And again, I chose it, but I was also like, it's not

00:57:31.420 beyond me that there was a crazy pull. And I don't know, I probably could have said no again and been

00:57:36.860 very stubborn and just went and did something else. But it almost feels in a way where it's like,

00:57:43.320 yeah you're gonna you're gonna do this like you're gonna do that thing whatever i'm doing now

00:57:48.480 and i i don't know um but again that doesn't mean that doesn't mean that i have no free will and i'm

00:57:55.360 just saying like there is that aspect of it like that happened to me like yeah i was i was dragged

00:58:00.880 back into this even though i didn't want to um but i think that that that i don't know at what

00:58:07.020 level that happens to everyone and then it becomes like what is what is our response to that yeah but

00:58:11.480 Maybe, you know, I don't know.

00:58:12.900 Is there an argument that he's not going to waste his time?

00:58:15.540 Maybe I'm lucky.

00:58:16.680 I told Merkel.

00:58:18.100 It could have been that he knew your heart.

00:58:20.560 And he knew that you, that he wanted you to be saved.

00:58:24.900 It's his desire.

00:58:25.920 That's another thing I think that Jed brought up.

00:58:27.340 You know, that he says that God desires that all be saved.

00:58:30.060 And then he brought a passage from Isaiah where he says God gets what he desires.

00:58:35.740 Well, you're talking about 700 years of difference between what Isaiah wrote and what Paul wrote.

00:58:40.680 They're completely different contexts.

00:58:42.380 So making those seem the same way, God will get what he desires.

00:58:46.680 And what Isaac said was in a complete different context than what Paul was saying.

00:58:52.100 Paul was saying that God wants, yes, God wants us all to be saved.

00:58:55.300 And if he sees an opening, yeah, he's going to pull you saying, you know what?

00:58:58.140 I believe the top, if I pull him a little harder, he's going to come to me.

00:59:04.500 And that's what's going on.

00:59:05.140 But you still had a choice.

00:59:06.140 You still could have said no.

00:59:08.320 Yeah, I remember the first time.

00:59:09.440 So basically what irresistible grace means is that you don't have a choice.

00:59:13.940 Yeah, I had a choice still, but I'm just saying it was unproportionately strong, stronger than other people.

00:59:21.040 I believe you.

00:59:22.100 And Merkel told me when I was talking, I was telling him a little bit about this, and he was like, yeah, dude, if God had a plan, he'll put someone else to do it.

00:59:30.080 And I was like, 100%, if something's supposed to happen, this happens without me.

00:59:36.280 And I was just like, I guess I'm just lucky that he waited.

00:59:39.440 you know, and said, no, no, you're going to do this by Mason, but go, sorry, go ahead, Matt,

00:59:44.480 you were going to say something. Uh, I think I was going to say, um, yeah, like I, I mean,

00:59:48.740 I didn't, I didn't know at the time that it was like a Calvinist, uh, common thing to bring up.

00:59:52.560 But I remember the first time somebody asked me, could Paul have resisted the call of God? I was

00:59:56.000 like, yeah, like, what are you, what are you talking about? Like there's tons, that's tons

01:00:00.180 of stories of people who resist the call of God, like God's drawing them and they don't respond.

01:00:04.620 But a call that strong, right? No, I just remember thinking that was so crazy. It was like, yeah,

01:00:08.360 the story of paul could totally be the story of somebody who didn't respond and i just think

01:00:12.980 sometimes we think like oh but that's the way the story went it couldn't have went any other way

01:00:16.760 that story totally could have gone another way when jesus christ how many other yeah how do you

01:00:21.640 know how many other people that god wanted before maybe there was somebody he called before paul

01:00:25.540 who said no maybe he wanted more paul yeah but i think it goes back to your point that like those

01:00:31.320 things that are prophesied in the book of revelation they tie to god's sovereign will

01:00:34.800 he's going to do it and so like our story is just whatever we are in this story that point goes hard

01:00:41.080 man like really think about that what if there was another paul that he approached that got blinded

01:00:47.000 and the dude still said no what if there was another moses there's a strong point for that

01:00:51.320 because it was supposed to be 400 years from abraham to moses it ends up being like 430 it's

01:00:56.340 like what was there some other dudes in that 30 year time period and it was god was waiting for

01:01:00.680 a moses type even though we know that it was like his mom that hit him because the moms even in

01:01:05.100 hebrews 11 yeah for the faith she had to hide him knowing he was tov knowing he was good i mean i

01:01:10.660 don't know there's some interesting thing like why was that timeline a little bit up i don't know but

01:01:14.700 maybe there is these stories of like god's calling people that don't respond this idea of like

01:01:19.120 person i tell my i joke around my wife i'm like there's like 12 types of people like some of them

01:01:23.600 are tortas and some of them are this or that or whatever and like it's sad but it's true you could

01:01:29.060 kind of like see people ask them a couple of questions and then extrapolate from there where

01:01:33.940 their worldview is at and then start to predict their next movements if i can do that i don't

01:01:38.540 like that i know me neither but it's very true you can you can probe a couple of questions of

01:01:44.500 people yeah no i know and then you like you can safely determine what they think about a

01:01:48.760 everything else yeah but they do that in church i don't like that they're like oh you think that

01:01:52.740 doctrine well that means you think this this and this like no i didn't say that it's not a hundred

01:01:56.740 percent but yeah it's damn close sometimes and and you're gonna say that like if we can do that

01:02:02.140 imagine what evil spirits can do no imagine god god knows the patterns god created patterns so

01:02:08.080 he can probably say like yeah maybe there were two moses and he's like is this the is this the one

01:02:12.480 are you gonna yeah follow through with it's gonna be hard and maybe he doesn't you'll get a you don't

01:02:17.360 get a book written you don't write the book and if you do it doesn't get passed on it's like

01:02:21.820 that's a crazy idea so here's another example go back to abraham we talked about him before with

01:02:27.020 isaac but before that before isaac was even born you know god came down to visit him it was it was

01:02:32.740 what they call a theophany you know god went into and two other elohim they came you know they were

01:02:38.180 walking past and god wanted to see okay is this guy he already given abraham the promise he said 0.70

01:02:43.880 i'm gonna make a great nation out of you get out of your land and come to a land i'm going to show

01:02:47.460 you and abraham eventually did it um and but god was like is this guy really gonna is he really

01:02:52.860 down for me and so he he would he and the two angels were walking by and they didn't say hey

01:02:58.100 come make me dinner abraham said yo come on in you know we're gonna make we're gonna make some

01:03:01.900 food for you dwell in our tent they said okay and then you see god have you hear god having an

01:03:05.720 internal monologue because he was sending his two angels to go to sodom and gomorrah to to handle

01:03:10.140 that business over there and then god says you know what um should i share with abraham what

01:03:15.500 I'm going to do with Sodom and Gomorrah? It was an internal modlock. He said, should I do? Okay,

01:03:19.760 I'm going to trust him. I'm going to give him a shot. And he tells him, and then Abraham starts

01:03:22.580 negotiating with him for the life of Lot. But God is talking to himself and saying,

01:03:27.640 can I trust this guy? He doesn't know. And of course, Abraham proved himself well.

01:03:34.260 And when he was negotiating with him, remember when Abraham was negotiating with God, he was

01:03:41.660 saying, you know, would you, would you spared for if 40 were holy in Sodom? What about, what about

01:03:45.880 30? What about 20 or whatever? God could say, yeah, sure. It's fine. He was, and God liked that.

01:03:51.860 God never got mad at him. Even though Abraham was like, you know, I'll ask you one more time.

01:03:55.200 Don't be angry with me. I was like, I'm not angry with you. Just you're talking with me. We're,

01:03:59.420 we're negotiating. We're having a good time. You're interacting. That's what I want.

01:04:03.680 In that story too. That's another situation where God knows he's like, this place is toast.

01:04:09.520 and and he's like yeah go ahead whatever one go 10 10 good people and god god already knows that

01:04:17.240 you ain't gonna find him well that's your tough one too because i think abraham's doing the math

01:04:22.100 on his fingers and he's thinking about lot and his family and his descendants he's saying well

01:04:26.380 surely lots whole families right with god and then they weren't like like they're like there's the

01:04:32.580 kids like we like we rag on the wife who looked back right turned into a pillar of salt but

01:04:36.440 looks like her kid kids in the town still imagine a mother whose two daughters got out with him

01:04:41.620 he had some other did he not have other uh kids that were in his two daughters those are his only

01:04:47.240 children okay yeah i've heard up i've heard two sides of that man that that he still did have the

01:04:52.720 they still did have kids in town and like that's what she's looking back at and of course some

01:04:56.400 people say no it's just worldly possessions and worldly things that she was looking back

01:04:59.560 let me look that up again but i'm pretty i'm pretty certain but you know don't don't quote

01:05:03.060 me i'll look it up but as far as though he only had he only had the two daughters that he mentioned

01:05:06.240 but i yeah i missed something i can look back and check it out and sons-in-laws too well oh well

01:05:12.460 yeah his daughters were married but but they hadn't consummated the marriage they were betrothed

01:05:17.300 because the daughters were still virgins so they were betrothed to two men of sodom yeah and i've

01:05:24.020 heard that go ahead i've heard that but i but i don't know if i read it that way i think i read

01:05:29.720 it like that there was more than just those two and that there was other there's son there's

01:05:34.080 daughters and then their husbands and stuff like that and like then that makes sense of why why

01:05:38.260 she's looking back to why i could understand that and why abraham stopped at the number he stopped

01:05:43.300 at i don't know it could be wrong it's not a it's not like i'm looking at me it's worth looking into

01:05:48.160 i mean because i'm doing i'm doing my genesis series i'm sure i'll get to it soon so i'll

01:05:52.040 take a look at that well what about also in the context of the um like like specifically when

01:05:57.560 they come to dust sodom because it because i've always read this about the i have thought about

01:06:02.800 the foreknowledge of God it's interesting we're having this conversation about it because he

01:06:06.780 because he does say like in uh Genesis 18 uh it's going to like verse 18 and verse 17 says shall I

01:06:13.560 hide from Abraham the thing which I do because like I'm going to go in and I'm going to dust

01:06:16.720 Sodom it says seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation and all the 0.84

01:06:21.360 nations of the earth shall be blessed in him for I know him that he will command his children in

01:06:26.020 his household after him and they shall keep the way of the Lord to do justice and judgment that

01:06:30.040 the lord may bring upon abraham that which he had spoken of him so i don't know i i always have

01:06:34.760 looked at that like he he had like foreknowledge like he talks about in the letter to peter about

01:06:38.680 the foreknowledge of god that like he did know i i i'm not i'm not disagreeing that we don't have

01:06:43.200 free will like we do have free will but i think chuck missler explained it that like um if you're

01:06:47.780 watching a um if you're watching a parade you probably know what i'm talking about and like

01:06:52.060 me and you were standing on the side of the road watching the parade we only see what comes across

01:06:56.540 across in the parade but a helicopter's up top and it's watching the whole parade the whole time

01:07:01.240 and he was just making the point that god's like that like he sees in the foreknowledge of god he's

01:07:05.320 just watching the whole parade at the same time he doesn't just get to see the one part in the

01:07:09.640 timeline like what we would see it's a car crash about to happen right so he's already seen it he's

01:07:14.420 he's living all of time all at the same time and that's how he has like foreknowledge and we would

01:07:19.480 still have free will what do you think about that yeah so chuck one of my mentors love chuck he and

01:07:25.860 of had a, we, we, we kind of just, uh, we, we kind of diverged a little bit there. So, uh, but I,

01:07:32.680 I think he, I think he was on the right track. Here's, here's what we understand. God knows way

01:07:38.760 more than we do way more. He knows, he knows our heart. He knows our tendencies. He, he sees in

01:07:44.820 more dimensions than we can see. So yes, he can, he can talk about Abraham in that way because he,

01:07:50.040 He knew Abraham better than Abraham knew himself, but Abraham could still have made a choice.

01:07:56.100 It was probably unlikely that he would, but Abraham had already proven himself in so many

01:08:01.640 other ways to God, that God says, I know this guy.

01:08:05.080 I know what he's going to do.

01:08:06.920 Doesn't mean that he could not have done something else, but God could still.

01:08:10.540 And remember that God is writing, when God, the book of Genesis was dictated by God to

01:08:15.880 Moses.

01:08:17.460 So God is talking about things that already happened in the past.

01:08:20.040 because I mean, obviously Moses wasn't, wasn't around during this time.

01:08:23.340 How would he got the information when he was on, on the mountain,

01:08:25.940 when God was giving him the law,

01:08:27.240 he was also dictating the book of Genesis to him because he had to,

01:08:31.580 because he had to let the Israelites know he had the book.

01:08:33.460 And the purpose of the book of Genesis was to give the Israelites their

01:08:35.880 history and to let them know that I am the one true God.

01:08:38.420 I'm the one who creates the heavens and the earth.

01:08:40.020 Nevermind what you heard about the Egyptian gods and whatnot.

01:08:42.420 So God is speaking when God's talking to April about Abraham,

01:08:46.400 he's talking in the past tense about things that happened, you know,

01:08:50.240 almost a thousand years earlier. Sure.

01:08:52.380 So he can speak in that sense that, you know,

01:08:54.660 I know Abraham that he would do this because he already did it.

01:08:57.160 So in that case, God is talking about something that already happened, 0.88

01:08:59.460 which he can speak about predictably.

01:09:03.060 Do you think that there's something about like these,

01:09:06.560 these really powerful prophets,

01:09:08.180 the ones that are the closest to God within, within the Bible,

01:09:11.600 they're all like kind of strange characters.

01:09:14.500 they all seem like recluses uh there it's almost like because they are that close to god that they

01:09:22.900 i don't i don't want to say no not all of them they're weird i always thought that i always

01:09:27.220 thought that though because like um i think i forget who it was said every christian should

01:09:31.380 have a bible in one hand and a newspaper in the other and i was like bro i don't think so dude i

01:09:35.080 don't want anything to do with the newspaper like i just want to be a hermit like i just want to be

01:09:38.800 chill and be alone with god but then i realized when i thought that there was nehemiah who was

01:09:44.500 like in the mix there was daniel who was like in the mix like they weren't recluses they were right

01:09:49.260 in cabinets of like governments and stuff like they they were in there but they don't have like

01:09:54.040 a john the baptist yeah and elijah and you've got i'm talking about those guys it's almost like and

01:09:59.180 we talk about this too on straight bible where we're like you're gonna submit yourself to god

01:10:04.320 well it's like the will of the father right and so then it's like i'm almost giving up my free will

01:10:10.260 for your will so like there's like this uh the will of god there's this like switch here and

01:10:18.140 now these people don't act like people when they're around people normal people see them and 0.90

01:10:23.480 go what the fuck's wrong with this guy you know because you're you're you're something different 0.50

01:10:27.860 yeah so it's like maybe that that aspect like if i'm giving up my will it's your will no more free 0.98

01:10:33.320 will here am i then predictable is that a bad i don't know i don't even know if that would be a

01:10:38.800 bad you you you still have the free will but you're but when you get when you're giving your

01:10:44.320 will over to him then he can trust you more and he is going to give you more responsibility you

01:10:51.040 can still say okay i'm done with this and i'm out you know because look at elijah he he was

01:10:57.080 running from god quite a few times uh jeremiah is another example of someone who was like oh god

01:11:02.460 this is a lot, you know, I, you know, he had to, he had to strengthen him. There are many times

01:11:07.240 where God says, you know, I have to give you, say again, even Jesus, like that, that scripture

01:11:11.360 said, can we pass this from me? Is there another way to do this? Yeah. He says, yeah, there's any

01:11:17.080 other way we can save these idiots without me having to be separated from me. And by the way, 1.00

01:11:21.360 he was not afraid of the pain of the cross. He, not, not, not even a phrase, not the right word.

01:11:27.040 That's not what he was dreading. He was dreading being separated from God because God had to

01:11:30.360 forsake him because he became sin that's what he didn't want he said the cross was a joy paul

01:11:34.740 writes that you know for for the joy that was set within him he endured the cross because that was

01:11:39.440 the joy of having his bride no what he was dreading was he was for the first time in his

01:11:45.060 existence he was going to be separate from the father that man that was way more painful to him

01:11:50.680 than the nails and the crown of thorns and being on the cross but to your point say again you're

01:11:57.920 ultimately saying that's the hell experience right and that jesus experienced that this is crazy

01:12:03.880 this is a crazy topic this is a heavy heavy subject it is yeah but it wasn't the pain that

01:12:10.100 jesus dreaded it was separation from the father yes wow think about that he became sin yeah and

01:12:18.280 and god said he said my god my god why had thou forsaken me and then we're hoping everybody would

01:12:22.360 understand the context of the rest of that psalm because it's playing out right in front of him

01:12:26.440 Like all of a sudden that Psalm is playing out, but it's like, he's separated from God.

01:12:30.680 And like, ultimately that's what I was saying today in the show was like people who say,

01:12:34.780 Oh, it's not eternal torture or eternal, whatever.

01:12:37.740 It's just separation from God.

01:12:39.240 I'm like, well, then you never knew God.

01:12:40.640 If you don't think that's torture to be eternally separated from God, that I don't know what

01:12:44.760 to say to that.

01:12:45.600 Can I ask you something?

01:12:47.420 Yeah.

01:12:47.760 No, go ahead.

01:12:48.180 If you, if you have something else to add onto that, but I have a, I have another question

01:12:51.740 about uh jed's point which i thought was uh i i liked i like the idea of this how how is it

01:13:01.760 possible that us in our fleshly body in the 120 years that we're given here to perform a sin so

01:13:11.440 devious that we'd be punished for eternity because again like if god is just and all of his all of

01:13:20.980 his uh presence that he gives us and all of his punishments are exact does it just doesn't seem

01:13:29.180 like that matches like i did 120 years of bad stuff here that is only material things that i

01:13:36.020 could do within arm's reach in a sense and then i'm punished for the rest of time for eternity

01:13:43.340 and i was like i thought that that was a little bit of a profound argument because i'm like does

01:13:48.000 that sound like God, but what do you make of that? So the eternal punishment is the separation

01:13:54.400 that you chose. He's right in that sense that God's punishment is going to fit the crime as it

01:13:59.680 were. And if your decision is, I don't want to be with you forever, then the punishment as it were

01:14:08.900 is you're not going to be with me forever. And it's not God putting this punishment on you. It

01:14:13.900 is your decision so understand this everyone in hell is not going to be at the same level of

01:14:21.980 torment or suffering whatever you want to call it and and here's why using that word torment

01:14:28.100 and suffering is is kind of probably not the best terminology to use because we put it in our human

01:14:32.280 terms we think it's going to be painful it's gonna hurt it's gonna hurt me it's take it we take it

01:14:37.820 out of your physical idea it is not going to be the we forget about dante's infernal and all the

01:14:43.600 stuff you've seen in the mythology about you being put on a rack and stretched out or having

01:14:48.500 nails thrown at you or fiery charcoal thrown. No, that is not going to be physical. You will be a

01:14:55.660 spirit. You're eternal. The real you is not these flesh suits we're driving around. The real you

01:15:01.880 is your spirit, your consciousness, your soul. That is what's going to be separated from God

01:15:06.720 forever. Getting back to different levels of punishment, there's a lady who lives in my 1.00

01:15:12.260 neighborhood. Sweetheart. Love her to death. She's an atheist. She doesn't believe in God. 1.00

01:15:17.160 And unless, you know, we've talked and she's just not interested, but she's kind. She's kind to my

01:15:21.940 children. She's a sweet lady. But unless she changes her mind before her death, she's going

01:15:27.920 to spend eternity separated from God because she chose it. However, then on the other hand,

01:15:31.280 you have horrible people. You have, I don't want to use Hitler all the time, just people right now 0.62

01:15:35.480 who are just in the world, who are just terrible people, who are doing bad things to kids, who are 0.99

01:15:40.640 destroying our future and our finances, you know, who are in these Bilderberg groups and these

01:15:45.540 different, you know, these elites, they're going to suffer more because they've done

01:15:50.260 worse things. So her punishment is not going to be as severe as the punishment of people who are

01:15:55.440 just horribly evil. But it'll be eternal though. It will be eternal because I guess my question

01:16:03.080 would be, what else could God do? Yeah. Yeah. But it's also like, again, just to argue back,

01:16:10.200 like we're here we're stupid we're just like meat suits we don't know shit but i think somebody said 0.99

01:16:16.880 it and it's it's logical god's issue isn't how does he send good people to hell it's how does 1.00

01:16:21.900 he take bad people to heaven like that's like this issue like that's the is like we don't we

01:16:26.400 don't deserve heaven like where he doesn't owe us that he says hey there's nothing like ed's saying

01:16:31.120 there's nothing else he can do he came down and died a bloody torturous death and let people rip 0.51

01:16:34.860 his beard out and spit in his face and died this bloody death on the cross separated from his father

01:16:39.300 to buy us back from the dead if we refuse that then like we read you go with satan and his angels

01:16:44.280 that's that's what it says in that passage in matthew but i think also ed you're right because

01:16:48.540 jesus talked about greater damnation he i think the context was like the fakers and religious

01:16:53.260 institutions that make these big prayers and then steal from widows they'll receive greater

01:16:58.800 damnation so he says that right so another thing to keep in mind and and um i think top the last

01:17:05.800 time I was on, we talked about this. And I think Jed brought it up to another degree. It's like, 0.89

01:17:10.440 why would God bring you into this world? And knowing that you're going to die, or why would

01:17:17.340 you have all these people knowing they're going to hell? And the question is, did God bring you

01:17:22.060 into this world? Whose decision was it for you to be born? Did God possess your parents and say,

01:17:27.140 you know what? You're going to bang tonight because I want this kid to be born. It was

01:17:31.540 your decision. And God's fine with that. God said, be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth.

01:17:35.080 But the choice of how many people on the earth are up to us.

01:17:39.040 We're doing it.

01:17:39.600 God did not decide how many people are going to be born.

01:17:44.460 My children, I have two boys.

01:17:47.100 My wife and I decided to have, we said, we only want two kids and we're done.

01:17:51.760 We're not having any more kids.

01:17:52.700 That's our decision.

01:17:54.040 God did not say, you need to have these two boys.

01:17:56.880 We decided and we brought them into the world.

01:17:58.800 And it's our responsibility to teach them to walk correctly in the ways of God.

01:18:05.520 That's what we have to do.

01:18:06.680 But it's not God's fault that some people are going to be going to hell.

01:18:12.180 It's not.

01:18:13.080 Because I give this analogy that actually I talked about in one of our spiritual warfare courses, in one of our live sessions, because someone was asking about people who choose to go to, who make the choice.

01:18:25.120 And why is hell so bad?

01:18:27.480 It has to be because the more stark the decision, the easier it should be.

01:18:31.180 For example, let's say I want you to choose to have a scoop of chocolate ice cream.

01:18:39.520 That's my choice.

01:18:40.140 That's my desire.

01:18:40.700 My desire is for Matt to have a scoop of chocolate ice cream.

01:18:43.080 But I want to give him a choice.

01:18:44.300 If I give you a choice between chocolate and vanilla ice cream, that's a tough choice.

01:18:48.960 Maybe you want vanilla that day.

01:18:51.540 But I want you to choose chocolate.

01:18:53.740 What would be an easier choice? 0.99

01:18:54.980 If I say, Matt, do you want a scoop of chocolate ice cream or do you want a bowl full of dog crap? 0.99

01:19:00.460 Much easier choice, isn't it? 0.99

01:19:02.160 Because it's more stark.

01:19:04.260 I see what you're saying.

01:19:05.600 So you're saying like he gives you this other option of hell so that you choose him.

01:19:10.800 Right.

01:19:11.420 It says, would you like to be with me for eternity?

01:19:13.960 Being who you were made to be.

01:19:15.640 Walking in glory.

01:19:16.580 Having perfect peace.

01:19:17.840 Perfect provision.

01:19:18.740 Perfect everything.

01:19:20.040 Being in joy.

01:19:21.420 Or do you want to suffer forever?

01:19:22.960 what's an easier choice that are saying you know do you want to be with me in my in my heaven or do

01:19:29.900 you just want annihilation which is what the i guess atheists believe is just going to go poof

01:19:33.740 when you're dying nothing's going to happen to you or do you want to be in you know but a different

01:19:38.740 type of heaven the more the more stark the choice the easier the choice should be so it should be

01:19:43.320 an easier choice but but unfortunately people still are going to choose the other way seems

01:19:48.880 like it gets a little sketch of source rex anytime we start to be like oh why would god do this well

01:19:54.680 i i don't know but here's what the bible says so anytime we start to get in we're like well if i

01:19:59.040 was god i wouldn't do it this like okay good thing you're not god thank god you're not god

01:20:03.020 no i'm not saying i do it any different i'm just trying to i'm just trying to understand if that

01:20:08.120 punishment fits like you said like the old lady i don't know i've got aunts and uncles who

01:20:13.140 yeah like yeah we're christian but uh do they have a relationship with god are they born again

01:20:20.560 i don't think so do they read they don't read a bible they don't bother to figure this stuff out

01:20:25.500 they're fantastic people they do believe in god but again there's levels and and yeah the

01:20:33.060 but ed's saying if they don't choose to follow god in this life god says okay no problem yeah

01:20:38.000 i'm not going to force you to be with me for all eternity i gave you 120 years to follow me in this

01:20:42.460 life. If you said, no, that's not my thing. I was busy with the Facebook and TV shows.

01:20:46.680 No problem. You're not going to want to be with me for all eternity if you don't want to be with

01:20:49.700 me down there. That's a great point too. It's like, do I want to live in somebody's house

01:20:53.380 forever and ever that I don't know? And does that person want me there too? But then there's also

01:20:59.800 that transmutable rule of like, God, just like, I'm so dope that trust me, you're going to want

01:21:07.780 to be close. And if you're not, it's not going to be great for you. That's a rule. It's just a

01:21:16.120 hard thing, right? It is tough. I'm not going to sit here and say this is easy stuff. We're in

01:21:20.800 deep waters now. And like you said, Matt, all I can do is trust what the Bible says and also trust

01:21:27.240 that God is righteous and just. You get the classic question, like, what about some guy in

01:21:33.740 jungles of wherever who never heard about God or never saw a Bible or never went to a church or

01:21:41.180 anything or never had exposure to it. What do you do about that? I have two answers. My first answer

01:21:46.800 is that's a cop-out because you don't care about Jungle Joe. This is your decision. Every major

01:21:53.880 decision you made in your life, you've made without wondering how it would affect Jungle Joe. You can

01:21:57.680 make this decision about whether or not you're going to accept God based on what's happening

01:22:01.460 in your life. Don't bring in Jungle Joe. He has nothing to do with this. Number two is Jungle 0.97

01:22:05.660 Joe is God's problem, not mine. What about the guy who's never heard of God? Not my problem.

01:22:12.700 God didn't tell me that. That's God's problem. God is just and he is righteous. So he is going to

01:22:17.760 find a way to make sure that that person has an opportunity. How does he do it? Don't know.

01:22:22.740 Not my problem. I'm not God. He can handle it. Now let's talk about you.

01:22:26.580 yeah that's like one of the most uh i guess one of the most powerful and i hate to give matt credit

01:22:33.340 i hate this but i'll say it uh one of the most powerful things that like i guess matt preaches

01:22:39.360 on when we're doing the show preach right talks on is uh when he's he's talking about you're

01:22:45.040 talking about how you decided at some point to just be like it's on you you know what i mean

01:22:53.140 Like, yeah, my life is on you. And if you mess this up, that's your problem. It's, it's, it's crazy, but it's putting, you just put all of your, all the responsibility and your faith right back on God, which is what he's asking you to do.

01:23:09.860 I've never looked back on that decision.

01:23:11.580 I've never, ever looked back on that decision.

01:23:13.400 And now I have a track record with God.

01:23:15.640 Like Ed's saying, he doesn't call just a normal person to sacrifice his son, right?

01:23:20.680 But you grow in this.

01:23:21.920 You grow from faith to faith. 0.97

01:23:23.760 And so now I have a track record with God where I'd be an idiot to not believe what he says in his word.

01:23:28.420 I've already got a track record with him in my life of where I know I can trust him.

01:23:32.920 That's how that goes.

01:23:34.080 But, Ed, there's interesting stuff about Jungle Joe, too, man.

01:23:36.620 And there's like in the Romans one passage where it says that like the whole creation speaks of them and everybody will be without witness, man.

01:23:43.100 Or like John 1, 9 says that like Jesus Christ is the light that lights every man that comes in the world.

01:23:48.000 Some would say that's conscience.

01:23:49.560 And so like we have this conscience that can respond to God.

01:23:51.800 And then the dude Cornelius, he, you know, when Peter comes in and Cornelius bows to him, Peter doesn't say, yeah, go ahead and worship me because the Catholic line comes from me anyway.

01:24:00.620 And I'll accept worship.

01:24:01.640 Peter goes, no, no, no, man, you got to get up.

01:24:03.420 We don't get down like that.

01:24:04.220 I'm just a man.

01:24:04.980 But then Peter's shocked.

01:24:06.140 he says, God's got everybody on all the nations, man. I had no clue. He's got people that fear him

01:24:10.940 in all the nations, man, even though a preacher didn't go there. Yeah. I mean, there's wild stuff.

01:24:17.060 Well, and I actually, I do. Thank you for that. But I do cover, I cover that on, on faith by

01:24:20.740 reason because I get, because I usually, I don't anymore. I just say it's God's problem now,

01:24:24.700 but I haven't, there are five things that jungle Joe knows. Number one, he knows that there's a 0.65

01:24:29.760 creator. Atheism has to be taught. You know, naturally there's a creator. You do. You know,

01:24:33.700 that creator is good. Three, you know that you are not good. You know that goodness comes from

01:24:39.560 that creator. So if you say creator, whoever you are, you are good. I am not good. I want to be

01:24:47.360 good, but I know I can only be good through you. You just prayed the sinner's prayer and you're

01:24:53.300 saved because you've just acknowledged God. You've just acknowledged that you need salvation.

01:24:58.520 You've acknowledged that salvation can only come from this creator and you've asked him to do it

01:25:03.580 for you that gives new meaning to that uh that scripture where that's heavy dude what jesus

01:25:09.140 comes back and he's got the uh he's got a name that nobody can read written i think what is it

01:25:15.240 a name that no a name that no one knows but himself yeah wait so you're saying like people

01:25:19.460 in jungles do that what ed just laid out not even knowing it's jesus but it is jesus yeah you don't

01:25:25.120 need to know the name jesus i mean that was his name his name was he was yahushua you don't need

01:25:29.320 you know so you don't need to know what the name of jesus isn't j-e-s-u-s his name is what he

01:25:35.660 represents your name is who you are jehoshua means jehovah is salvation that's who he is he

01:25:42.200 the creator is salvation that's the name of jesus right so if you say the creator is salvation

01:25:48.740 i need this i can't be good without it then you've just called upon the name of jesus without

01:25:54.600 saying you know jesus yeah it's going hard in the paint

01:26:00.080 why you guys never let me come on with it dude this is the best man well i mean david has very

01:26:06.160 strict rules that's true yeah well you know we'll talk about it some more when i'm down there

01:26:10.620 next month i'm actually yeah guys if well it's too late to get your vip tickets for bro grove but

01:26:16.380 uh that bible i'm setting up the bible study you matt and laura baker will be here i don't know

01:26:22.640 i probably not even gonna sit on it i'm gonna uh watch and produce from the side but that's

01:26:28.960 gonna be crazy we'll record it of course so people will get it afterward but yeah i want to say one

01:26:34.500 more thing about the about that whole you know it's your problem not mine that's just personal

01:26:38.300 to me because i you know we talked before about resisting god and and and and you know god drawing

01:26:47.540 us to him i knew in my 20s my dad told me this my dad said my dad's a minister he told me we were

01:26:54.020 talking and he said i think you've been called to be in the ministry and i was like no i don't want

01:27:00.560 to be in the ministry i'm in my 20s i want to go out and drink and bang and do my i want no part

01:27:06.940 of this holy stuff because you know i grew up in a church and the minister had to be the man of god

01:27:11.360 he's got to be this pious and you know person people come to with their problems like i'm not

01:27:15.960 that pious i don't want to hear anybody's problems i want to go out and go to the club and i want to

01:27:21.660 drink and i want to hang out and i want to chase girls i don't want this so i ran from it and i

01:27:27.020 ran for years years and years and i think i only stopped running recently because i just even with

01:27:34.740 faith not reason i've been dabbling you know just i'll put up a post here and there i'll put up a

01:27:38.220 video here and there but when i i decided i need to get serious and my prayer to god was like look

01:27:43.620 I want this to be my thing

01:27:45.420 I want to do nothing else but this

01:27:47.060 If I want it and you want it

01:27:49.740 And Jesus said anything you ask in my name

01:27:52.480 Bringing up the name of Jesus

01:27:53.680 Presenting all that you are

01:27:55.060 That glorifies the Father

01:27:56.340 It will be done

01:27:57.220 So I'm like, okay, God

01:27:59.040 This is my prayer

01:28:00.040 I want this to be my full-time thing

01:28:02.600 I want this to be my source of income

01:28:04.480 And you want it

01:28:06.480 I want it

01:28:07.200 It will glorify you

01:28:08.180 So now it's on you

01:28:09.380 If this doesn't happen

01:28:12.540 then jesus lied and i don't believe jesus is a liar so it's all on you now so we'll see how it

01:28:17.100 happens but now i know when it happens we can all give glory to god because jesus said if you do it

01:28:24.740 in my in my name and i will do it so that god gets the glory yeah and that's how i felt i was

01:28:31.880 actually like in the same boat where i was like yeah i don't want to do like the christian thing

01:28:35.600 and be a dork like i still want to party and do dope and do wild stuff and then and then that's

01:28:41.300 ultimately where i got to the space where i was like all right god i'll give you my life and then 0.96

01:28:44.380 when i'm a dork and my life sucks it'll be your fault and i felt like instantly before i even got

01:28:49.560 the words out of my mouth he was like deal i can't believe you said that yeah i've never ever looked 0.97

01:28:58.240 back and thought like oh man that life was so much cooler and better i've never looked back and

01:29:02.520 thought that i'll look back now working jobs that i didn't like as opposed to doing what i'm

01:29:07.760 passionate about i i my only regret is i didn't do this earlier i did i didn't pursue my passion

01:29:13.000 earlier and i spent time working for somebody else who i didn't even like working for doing

01:29:18.820 a job that was just it was fine but wasn't passionate about i would i would have rather

01:29:22.600 spent all my time doing my passion because that's when you definitely get energy in your life

01:29:27.580 if you don't do the training ground i think though like you you're doing that for 10 years so you

01:29:33.480 have this extreme body of work now and you have all your previous experiences and for me that like

01:29:39.500 the 10 years well it's kind of crazy there's a 10 year period about where when i said no and i'm

01:29:46.500 going through the desert but i had to go through that because if i if you would have talked to me

01:29:50.600 10 years ago and you sat that person down here and i'm doing this this show would suck i'd have

01:29:57.040 nothing really to say and i'd have no experience to put it up against and i think the same thing

01:30:01.660 for you like not just your like your drug days but even like your days of like in in the coffee

01:30:08.620 shop doing what you're doing or like sitting in your room by yourself and delivering a message

01:30:13.280 to the wall in your closet at 4 a.m you can't do straight bible if you don't do those things before

01:30:20.420 i had a real career too i didn't always just work in a coffee shop no you didn't

01:30:24.460 you pour groundwater well no that's the same for david like david says not like and that movie's

01:30:30.860 terrible that you that you recommended by the which one the show the david story it's like i

01:30:35.060 like that show it's right up the cartoon or the live action one i don't know the beginning it

01:30:41.020 starts out with like the lion that took his lamb and he doesn't even kill the lion dude so it's

01:30:46.860 not even biblically accurate like right from the jump but anyway like david when they're presenting

01:30:50.520 great stories okay fine i mean i'd let my kids watch it but i would keep hitting pause and

01:30:54.820 explain to them hey guys this is what the bible actually says but uh so david and that whole

01:30:59.420 thing when when the Goliath shows up he says no Saul this is no problem dude I've been I've been

01:31:04.940 on the job training already I didn't go to cemetery school but I killed a lion and a bear

01:31:09.120 and so like this this giant yeah he's no problem man I you I've already been trained for this

01:31:14.200 so I feel like it's like that for all of us man that like whatever we're going through in our job

01:31:18.860 or our life or all this other stuff we've had to go through to get to where we're at it was all

01:31:23.140 it was always on the job training yeah yeah that's right you're like building i'm just not 0.94

01:31:30.280 gonna lie building out the studio and all the stuff that we have here all this dumb like these

01:31:34.360 dumb little things this is all training that i'm like i'm why am i even accruing this sort of skill 0.83

01:31:40.960 it makes no sense but it all pertains to what i have to do now so it's like all right whatever 0.98

01:31:49.100 i mean truth be told the raven did a lot of this in here let's be honest he's got the queer eye

01:31:54.440 for the straight guy he's a good designer i mean as far as like i don't know like i think about

01:32:00.440 this all the time i'm like why am i obsessed with wires and like technology and stuff like this

01:32:06.280 because it did this applies to nothing i was doing ever yeah but i like i really love that

01:32:11.840 and it's like okay now i'm in a spot where like i need that and i'm like well thank god i was like

01:32:18.140 looking at this stuff before like why would i know about dslr cameras i'm just up late at night

01:32:24.120 researching it but like i have no intention to even sit in front of a camera five ten years ago

01:32:29.100 and it's just like but it's something like hey i learned that you need that like this is going

01:32:34.420 to be useful later and i'm like all right i guess i'll just it's yeah it's a strange thing so i'm 0.67

01:32:39.500 grateful for all the dumb shit that i've done same guy can he can make everything work out all

01:32:46.280 things work together for good and even though it likes you know just be doing posts here and there 0.98

01:32:50.620 and podcasts and videos but now i've got so much content i have enough to to write multiple books

01:32:55.360 and put it on different platforms and so if i was starting off raw with nothing like oh now i've got

01:33:00.280 to make content every single day to know no i can just i can repurpose i can make content daily but

01:33:04.520 i can also repurpose other stuff so you know different channels which i wouldn't have been

01:33:07.820 able to do if i if i hadn't you know been dabbling in for for over a decade that's cool you just got

01:33:15.760 such a body of work that you if you want to write a book you you know what this needs to be out in a

01:33:19.660 book let me let me get all this content that i already have assemble it put it in some kind of

01:33:24.500 form that everybody's gonna understand and it's already here it's ready to go yeah that's that's

01:33:28.260 awesome i think that's what matt's after but no i'm not yeah yeah i just want a podcast matt wants

01:33:33.160 he's he's yeah he wants to make a body work it's the same thing and it's oh yeah yeah it's really

01:33:38.280 cool to see you guys do that and like just to be because i'm like i'm like a third guy in this i

01:33:43.020 all i do is like create a platform that like we could put really cool dudes on to do stuff like

01:33:48.600 this so like i'm happy that's your job that's your thing and so you're you're benefiting

01:33:53.340 because i couldn't you know you're doing things i don't know anything about the wiring and all

01:33:57.200 you you kind of helped me say hey you need to get a better mic you need to get this sort of thing i

01:34:00.940 didn't know that stuff but that was yeah top crushes on point guard but i think that's a good

01:34:06.680 spot to leave it and you know what can you let's tell the people again because you have a new book

01:34:10.720 out you've got a body of work and everybody already knows but show them a walk through this

01:34:15.600 yeah so faithbyreason.net though that's where like all of my legacy material is you become a

01:34:21.800 member and you can access all of it in that piecemeal format um and again i'm consolidating

01:34:27.400 it into into books and into other courses i'm gonna i'm gonna make my revelation series into

01:34:32.520 a course that's like my next one of my next big ventures is just making that one course you can

01:34:37.680 take in you know one one price no it's not a monthly thing you can just buy

01:34:42.060 that course at once and go through it on your own get my new book about the

01:34:46.860 Jesus code which is the first four books of excuse me the first four chapters of

01:34:51.240 Revelation the seven letters to seven churches synagogue of Satan the spirit

01:34:55.320 of Jezebel the rapture the throne room of God we get into all that stuff there so

01:35:00.120 it's basically taking you know material I've talked about for a long time just

01:35:03.480 compiling that into pretty easy to read a book you can get it digitally EPUB or

01:35:08.640 if you want the paperback and go there to Amazon if you want the digital copy

01:35:11.640 go to my site you know either go to faith by reason net or to patreon so so

01:35:16.380 to avoid the Amazon tax but if you want a physical book yeah you got to go to

01:35:20.220 Amazon to get that on faith by reason you can know you have my Q&A's you get

01:35:26.280 exclusive content bonus content everything drops there first and you

01:35:29.940 become a part of my bible study where we go through the entire bible in 12 months from the

01:35:35.060 supernatural point of view and we're yeah we're not quite halfway through for this year so um

01:35:39.860 we're yeah but we're we're going through that and everyone's having a great time there the

01:35:43.460 spiritual warfare course again you if you want to if you sign up with the coupon code nds capital

01:35:50.100 nds when you sign up you get seven days you're not charged you can look at the you can see the

01:35:54.660 first month of all the content we have in that course and you can decide if you want to continue

01:35:59.700 if you do great and you'll you can continue down that road if you don't then you know just cancel

01:36:04.340 before the seven days is up and you are won't cost you anything you're getting attacked by demons if

01:36:09.820 you don't yeah yeah if you like being attacked by demons seven years keep going but i'm gonna

01:36:15.040 you want the bowl ice cream or the bowl of crap yeah it's totally up to you but you have seven

01:36:19.880 days to decide if you want to stop being attacked by demons and after after seven days you say you 0.97

01:36:24.560 know what bring it on demons i want i i want it then it just said yes or yes yes or yes

01:36:31.640 it's hilarious man yeah and i know i'm sure i'll be on before um before august again but

01:36:40.800 august for whom you and girl will be down there yeah man guys on come hang out uh come hang out

01:36:46.480 with ed get it get an autograph book man have them autograph your book or whatever you got

01:36:50.980 me, Ed, Matt, and a bunch

01:36:54.040 of other people are going to be down there. It's going to be

01:36:56.040 fun, man. But, Ed, again,

01:36:57.980 thank you. I'm very happy

01:36:59.920 David wasn't here to distract from the conversation.

01:37:02.420 Stop. He's great.

01:37:04.520 David is... Raven is

01:37:05.940 a savant. He just comes up with stuff out of nowhere.

01:37:08.800 He does.

01:37:10.000 He does, dude. Out of nowhere, all

01:37:11.960 of a sudden, he'll say some profound thing that

01:37:13.820 initially you want to go, dude, what do you...

01:37:15.880 Then you go, wait, what did you just say?

01:37:17.700 Yeah.

01:37:17.940 yeah yeah because he's asking the unorthodox question that makes uh people that are comfortable

01:37:24.020 in their knowledge already really have to come outside of the box and think and but i feel like

01:37:28.480 i think we did that with this episode as well this is this is probably one of my favorite ones i'm

01:37:32.680 not gonna lie this is a heavy one i mean we got into some deep waters which is great i love it

01:37:37.500 love it yeah man that's what that's what fridays are for they're for the lord and they're for

01:37:42.160 deep waters ed thank you again for coming on man we'll we'll catch up with you pretty soon

01:37:48.320 and until next time don't forget to obey submit and comply we'll see you

01:37:53.340 and they will do it again the end is written in the book in the pages they foreseen

01:38:12.160 Death Squad

01:38:16.400 Death Squad

01:38:20.560 Death Squad

01:38:23.620 Never look, Death Squad

01:38:33.940 When the last trumpet sounds

01:38:36.040 And the heavens

Fridays Are For The Lord w⧸ Ed Mabrie & Matt Hepner

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