Nephilim Death Squad - From MK Ultra to Psychic Phenomena： The Influence of Andrija Puharich (NDS on Raised by Giants)

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00:01:08.820 Welcome back.

00:01:38.800 Welcome back to Raised by Giants live discussion. Good to see everyone. Welcome everyone in the chat and any moderators and or channel members out there. And to anyone that's listening to the replay, thanks for joining in. And if you're listening on audio only, welcome and thanks for tuning in. We have a really fun show planned for you guys here today that I've been looking forward to. We're going to figure out a lot of things and we're going to figure out where the whole tinfoil hat stuff comes from.

00:02:04.560 Welcome to Top Lobster. The Raven are here from the Nephilim Death Squad to bring chaos, insights and laughter. And of course, some Nephilim shit. Welcome, gentlemen. How's it going?

00:02:18.560 Hey, what's up? You didn't tell me we were going to bring laughter. I didn't come prepared for laughter. Let me pull up those notes really quick.

00:02:27.220 Notes on comedy. Does anybody have the notes on comedy?

00:02:29.580 What's up, man? Thanks for having us. This is going to be fun. We're going to spread as much misinformation as possible. We're going to blur the lines of truth and reality and hopefully somebody catches us in the lie. Hopefully they don't, but they probably will. So I'm excited to just hop right into this. David, what are we doing, man?

00:02:47.760 I don't know exactly what we're doing, but thank you, Ryder Lee, for having us. Yeah, we're going to work out something here on your show. We actually just did a bit of content on it. We've had a secret that we've been keeping.

00:02:58.820 And you know, within the conspiracy community, if you happen to uncover something that you think is compelling and nobody else is talking about it, that becomes a mad rush to try to produce and disseminate that to people before that idea gets spread.

00:03:13.000 Because sometimes I think they're like alive. It's like, as soon as you have a good idea, somebody else gets that idea. Then the race is on.

00:03:18.540 Bro, every single time that happens, dude, every time I have a really good idea and I don't do it, it's so weird. I've had this happen so many times. I have a really good idea and I don't act on it somewhere, sometimes the next day.

00:03:32.840 Or even the next week, somebody is doing that exact thing that I had an idea to do.

00:03:38.980 We had that similar experience, Ryder, where we came up with this and we realized what we stumbled on. And if it's real, then we really have to figure this out quick and we got to make sure we present it the right way.

00:03:49.900 And less than a week later, all of a sudden, Ian Carroll is talking about something adjacent to what we're going to talk about here today.

00:03:57.360 And so the race is on. As soon as that happened, we had to get out and start cranking out the content and explaining what's been knocking around in our mind.

00:04:05.840 And you know what's funny about this? So the idea of us having this idea, working it out, like we were calling each other.

00:04:13.580 We did like, not an episode about it, but we hinted at it. And people were starting to put stuff together.

00:04:20.720 Then we finally spoke about it. We do a show with this guy, Clint Russell of Liberty Lockdown. It's called Dangerous Retards. What up?

00:04:28.220 And it's like a political show and like current events and stuff. But I was like, listen, I got to tell you about this shit, about these kids.

00:04:33.620 So I started telling them about it. And then a couple of days later, Ian Carroll picks it up.

00:04:40.140 But the subject of this show and the subject of like what we've been looking at, he actually speaks about this.

00:04:47.640 And this was something that we didn't cover in our deep dive of this man, Andrija Puharic.

00:04:51.920 So this is the guy that we're going to get into. I don't even know if I should jump the gun, but fuck it.

00:04:57.380 I'm going to jump the gun here. Jump the gun.

00:04:59.520 Yeah. So he wrote a book called Beyond Telepathy, and he speaks about this thing called Psy Plasma.

00:05:06.500 And I know this is like, since we're jumping in like cold feet right into the deep end, it's like going to be a little confusing to navigate you through these waters.

00:05:15.420 But he describes Psy Plasma as like a fundamental component of consciousness responsible for the psychic phenomenon.

00:05:24.540 And that's like the first half of this book is just completely about Psy Plasma.

00:05:29.500 And it's kind of out there. I think that's what it is.

00:05:33.520 When you have that idea, and it's in the ether, it's in the plasma, people start to pick up on it if they're tuned in the right way.

00:05:39.920 So apologies to Ian Carroll if I was a little bit upset with you at first.

00:05:45.060 I don't think you jacked our shit, but I do think that you're tuned into the Psy Plasma.

00:05:51.660 Yes. And a similar thing happened when the telephone was created.

00:05:56.080 It was like somebody on like the other side of the country with no connection to the original developer also within a pretty reasonable time frame created a secondary telephone.

00:06:04.860 So I don't know. It's like these things happen and all of a sudden they permeate this.

00:06:08.700 I don't know what you call it. The Akashic Records, collective consciousness.

00:06:12.220 I don't know if you subscribe to that sort of a thing, but it does seem that ideas are much more than just this thing that takes place in your mind.

00:06:19.080 They're almost more like something that you tune into.

00:06:22.160 So yeah, hopefully we can get this out before anybody else tunes in.

00:06:26.100 Well, you also, I think it's like kind of like an infinite data field of like information that's just around us.

00:06:32.060 And some people refer to that as the Akashic Record, but I think that there's these just these ideas that are out there and then certain people can tune into them.

00:06:40.920 But then they it's like, I don't know if they're getting it all at once or if like several people all at the exact same time or someone passes on an idea, then it goes to the next person.

00:06:51.700 I don't really I don't really know exactly how it's almost like the idea is alive and it's going to people and it's asking to be presented.

00:06:58.820 It needs it's a we are the conduit by which it enters this realm and it's trying to see like who's going to do it, who's going to talk about me.

00:07:06.460 Is it going to be these people? And and for a second, that idea knocked on Nephilim Death Squad's door.

00:07:11.520 And I think we were just a little bit too slow.

00:07:13.700 But to that point and it knocked on Ian Carroll's door and then it lit a fire under our ass.

00:07:17.640 But to your point about this, this like, you know, idea of almost it's like I they're they're interacting with us.

00:07:24.340 I was just driving back to the gym after our last episode that we just did maybe a couple of hours ago.

00:07:30.660 And it's a two parter episode, this topic that we're going to bring you today.

00:07:33.880 So we're going to give you like an abridged version.

00:07:35.600 But the question becomes after you present the theory, to what end?

00:07:39.740 What happens? Where is this all going?

00:07:41.400 And I didn't quite have an answer for that until I was driving to the gym and it hit me like somebody threw a rock at my head to the point where I had to stop driving, pull out my phone, call top and say, I think I figured it out.

00:07:53.460 I don't think I figured out anything.

00:07:55.020 I think they just come knocking when they when they're ready.

00:07:58.420 Yeah, well, this was the idea of this.

00:08:01.160 This is a previous episode.

00:08:02.240 One of the first episodes we did on Nephilim Death Squad with this guy, Jerry Marzinski and love Jerry.

00:08:08.760 Yeah, great dude.

00:08:09.820 He's been on the show twice.

00:08:11.060 He came on the second time with one of his ex-patients that kind of gave his testimony about how he recovered from schizophrenia.

00:08:18.860 And basically, Jerry's whole thing is that schizophrenia is not a mental disorder per se, but it's entities that we are perceiving through our heads like a radio wave, which pertains very much to what we're going to be talking about.

00:08:30.960 I know we're just like, this is foreplay, foreplay, foreplay.

00:08:33.220 We're going to get to it, Ryder.

00:08:34.180 Just give us a second.

00:08:35.280 We're trying to set the table.

00:08:37.860 30 minutes of foreplay, at least.

00:08:39.360 That's the standard amount for.

00:08:41.860 That's what I've heard.

00:08:42.660 That's what I've been told.

00:08:43.800 Doctors.

00:08:44.400 30 minutes of foreplay.

00:08:45.540 But yeah, it's necessary.

00:08:47.160 Trust the science.

00:08:48.180 Whatever.

00:08:48.400 So, Jerry, he thinks that not many of your thoughts, if any, are your own.

00:08:56.320 I think he said like 85% or something like that.

00:08:58.600 Upwards of 80% to 85% of the thoughts that pass through your mind are not yours.

00:09:02.640 That's what he says.

00:09:03.220 Yeah, which might make a little bit of sense here, touching on this subject.

00:09:08.520 But are you guys ready to look at this guy and get into this thing?

00:09:12.420 Let's look at him.

00:09:13.240 You have a picture of him?

00:09:14.300 Because he is a staggering kind of a character to look at.

00:09:17.660 He's got a visage about him.

00:09:19.020 I can pull one off.

00:09:19.880 But yeah, very much ready.

00:09:22.160 This guy, he ends up becoming almost a starting point for so many things that plague us today,

00:09:28.060 right?

00:09:28.280 When it comes to, I would say, like the MKUltra program, all the way to UAP disclosure and

00:09:34.800 the alien abduction phenomenon.

00:09:36.340 Like all of these things tie in.

00:09:38.400 It's kind of like we're here to present you the theory of everything, almost.

00:09:42.060 And so, Top, where do you want to start with Andre?

00:09:45.480 Yeah, can we pull up a picture of him?

00:09:46.620 He looks very cool, doesn't he?

00:09:48.800 He looks like an old-timey, you know, Wild West scientist.

00:09:53.560 Back when scientists were considered like cowboys or superstars, it's my understanding

00:09:59.320 that we went through this time in American history where scientists were regarded as like

00:10:04.180 rock stars.

00:10:04.860 And we've certainly moved away from that these days.

00:10:07.480 But this guy is a remnant, right?

00:10:09.260 He's an echo of a time where scientists were rock stars.

00:10:12.960 And when the paranormal and the supernatural were not pseudoscience, they were a legitimate

00:10:18.560 field of study.

00:10:19.780 So much to the extent that this man dedicated, you know, a disproportionate amount of time

00:10:23.980 and resources to that study.

00:10:26.040 Yeah, he looks like a shoemaker or like a hoof maker or a horse hoof maker or something.

00:10:32.520 He looks exactly like what you'd expect, like this old-timey kind of scientist.

00:10:37.300 But people don't necessarily know where to put him.

00:10:39.260 They're like, he's a scientist.

00:10:40.340 He's a, he's an experimenter.

00:10:42.260 He's a, he's evil.

00:10:44.480 It's kind of all these things.

00:10:45.820 He's just doing things.

00:10:46.820 He won't be put in a box.

00:10:47.800 That's what he is.

00:10:48.560 Oh, no.

00:10:48.760 He will not be put in a box.

00:10:49.840 And he keeps, you know what he is?

00:10:51.180 He's kind of like the granddaddy of conspiracy theorists in the sense that, you know, you

00:10:55.300 were talking about the tinfoil hat.

00:10:57.020 And maybe that's a good place to start just to, to show how the tinfoil hat goes all the

00:11:03.100 way back to Puharij.

00:11:05.060 He's, he's like our mascot, you know, as conspiracy theorists.

00:11:08.360 Top, do you want to elaborate on that?

00:11:09.960 But so there are, I guess there, it's not like misconceptions, but there are different

00:11:13.560 stories about where the tinfoil hat came from.

00:11:16.460 You told us one in the pre-chat.

00:11:18.680 I don't know if you want to tell it again, because it's a, I've never heard that one.

00:11:21.780 Um, yeah, this one, this is where I thought that it came from, because I didn't know about

00:11:27.520 this Puhari, Puchari, porridge guy that you're talking about.

00:11:31.900 Uh, so Paul Benowitz in 1978, he lived in New Mexico and he lived right next to an air

00:11:42.160 force base.

00:11:42.780 And he thought that he was seeing UFOs like aliens, UFOs, and, but it was right next to

00:11:49.960 an air force base.

00:11:50.620 So it's advanced air force technology that he was seeing that he was misidentifying as

00:11:56.440 UFOs.

00:11:57.100 Right.

00:11:57.700 So then he contacts the air force and he's like, Hey, I'm seeing these really strange weird

00:12:01.440 crafts.

00:12:01.860 And they take him in for like a briefing and they're like, Oh, well, that's pretty interesting

00:12:06.140 what you got there, Paul, which I'm giving you the short version.

00:12:09.200 There's way more to the story.

00:12:10.680 I'm just giving you the cliff notes so we can move through it.

00:12:13.780 So then he's, then the air force is like, that's some really interesting stuff you got

00:12:17.540 there, Paul.

00:12:17.940 And then they end up getting him in contact with this guy named Richard Doty.

00:12:23.300 I don't know if you guys are familiar with who Richard Doty is.

00:12:26.060 He's an air force office of special investigations, uh, essentially a dis and misinformation list.

00:12:33.160 So they sent him to Paul Benowitz's house and essentially convinced him that what he was seeing

00:12:41.360 was indeed alien craft.

00:12:44.420 Uh, and the NSA actually broke into his home and replaced his laptop with an NSA modified

00:12:53.480 laptop to convince him that he's communicating with aliens.

00:12:56.980 And a lot of the stuff that we hear about within the community today came from the NSA talking to Paul

00:13:06.920 Benowitz.

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00:13:35.540 Through his laptop, which had him convinced that it was aliens and not really the NSA.

00:13:41.100 Things like, uh, the, the government signed a contract with extraterrestrials and they created

00:13:49.080 this base in New Mexico where humans and extraterrestrials work together.

00:13:53.460 Uh, that, that they're here to, for our resources, like just, uh, an array of things that's permeated

00:14:01.120 throughout the, the community.

00:14:03.620 And, uh, and then it got to such a big point where Paul is so like paranoid and like essentially

00:14:11.000 traumatized because the NSA had his house bugged.

00:14:13.240 The air force had his house bugged.

00:14:14.520 The police had his house bugged.

00:14:16.000 It was like this huge thing that was going on.

00:14:18.720 And this was all just to play with Paul Benowitz's mind to get him off the track that the craft

00:14:23.800 that he was seeing was, uh, that, that it wasn't military technology, that it was aliens.

00:14:31.560 And he already believed that it was aliens because he had never seen anything like it

00:14:34.940 before, but it was really advanced military technology.

00:14:37.640 And it got to this point where he got so paranoid that he would essentially tinfoil out everything

00:14:44.280 in his home.

00:14:45.900 He, he got in contact with this gentleman, the psychiatrist from Wyoming called Leo Sprinkle

00:14:51.820 that came down to his house to regress this woman that I got in contact with him that claimed

00:14:59.220 that she was being abducted by aliens, that aliens were shooting laser beams into her home

00:15:04.220 and abducting her and everything.

00:15:06.620 And he would only do these regressions.

00:15:09.500 Like Paul would only want Sprinkle to do the regressions inside of his Cadillac that had

00:15:15.160 completely been tinfoiled out in his garage.

00:15:18.540 That's a cool Cadillac, dude.

00:15:20.180 Imagine some, imagine owning that Cadillac.

00:15:22.140 I would pay good money to have his tinfoil cover Cadillac.

00:15:26.280 Greg Carlwood of, uh, the higher side chats has a, I think it's a Prius.

00:15:30.740 I don't know what it was.

00:15:31.840 No, no, it's a SUV.

00:15:33.120 It was an SUV, dog.

00:15:34.420 Some kind of car, but it's wrapped.

00:15:36.280 It's got a full wrap with like a repeating, uh, logos of the higher side chats when, when

00:15:40.520 he pulled up to Sam Tripoli show.

00:15:42.100 And I just think Sam Tripoli needs like a literal tinfoil hat car.

00:15:45.680 A hundred percent.

00:15:46.560 Crinkly tinfoil hat.

00:15:47.980 Either that or he needs a car with like an actual tinfoil hat on it.

00:15:52.220 You know what I mean?

00:15:52.760 Like a big pointy.

00:15:53.580 Yeah, just a crunched up one.

00:15:55.360 All right.

00:15:55.620 So let, so let's get into that.

00:15:57.200 So that guy's in 1978, you said?

00:15:59.180 Yeah, it's a 78, 79 is the area.

00:16:03.300 But I'm guessing that your guy is way further back, correct?

00:16:06.800 He's further back, but it's similar.

00:16:08.820 There's more though, because in 1971, there's more because it keeps popping up and it's hard

00:16:14.440 to put your finger on where exactly tinfoil hat was, uh, originated.

00:16:18.060 So in 71, this guy, Leonard Kill, this comes from our friend, uh, control old history.

00:16:23.380 Yeah.

00:16:23.780 He's, he's the man.

00:16:25.000 His, his stuff on YouTube is really good.

00:16:27.120 He does like these deep dives, but, uh, this dude, Leonard Kill in 1971, he was one of the

00:16:32.580 people that developed, uh, the, the Kodak camera.

00:16:36.220 He was, uh, like a, somebody, I guess he, he might've patented it or something like that.

00:16:40.520 There was some kind of discrepancy.

00:16:42.140 They went after him.

00:16:43.420 They try to call him crazy.

00:16:44.660 And, uh, it turns out he was a little bit crazy.

00:16:47.300 He was, he was an eccentric dude, but, uh, the story goes on to say that, uh, he, he was

00:16:52.260 having, he was having headaches or something like that.

00:16:53.880 And he ended up having a brain surgery in 71.

00:16:57.040 This was just a thing.

00:16:57.960 They implanted a chip in his head.

00:16:59.720 He went crazy.

00:17:00.840 The story goes, he's in a mental institution and he started to wrap his head in tinfoil.

00:17:05.020 Right?

00:17:05.300 So we have the origination of this, uh, uh, foreign object going into someone's brain through,

00:17:11.500 uh, surgery and remaining in his brain.

00:17:14.080 And so that's like, people say, Oh, tinfoil hat.

00:17:16.300 That's where it comes from.

00:17:17.740 It goes even further back.

00:17:19.000 It goes to this motherfucker, Andrija Puharic and what he was doing.

00:17:22.740 So in the, well, let's, let me tell you a little bit about him in the, in the, he comes

00:17:27.740 out of nowhere.

00:17:28.120 He's born in Croatia in 1918.

00:17:30.280 Um, he's a physician, inventor, parapsychologist, and he's not Jewish.

00:17:35.520 I wrote that down for whatever reason.

00:17:36.980 Uh, he went to Northwestern university in 1947 and he specialized in, uh, neurophysiology

00:17:44.240 with, uh, regarding electrical impulses in the brain and body.

00:17:49.380 He joined the military service, uh, like, like early fifties, uh, or late, late forties,

00:17:57.260 right around fifties.

00:17:58.540 Cause this guy pops up on the main scene in 51.

00:18:01.200 Yeah.

00:18:01.380 He was stationed, by the way, uh, you're going to see that timeframe pop up a lot during

00:18:05.680 everywhere during this.

00:18:07.040 So just keep that in mind.

00:18:07.960 We're talking like 45 to 55.

00:18:10.360 So, uh, what's significant about that is like, so a lot of people do have military, a military

00:18:15.900 background and we're usually suspicious and we joke around, but this dude was located

00:18:20.620 at Edgewood Arsenal facility.

00:18:22.940 That's where he was.

00:18:23.740 I don't know if you know anything about this place, but, uh, I have a fucking crazy list

00:18:27.760 here about what they were doing here.

00:18:29.660 It was, uh, it was a military base where they were just evaluating the impact of low dose

00:18:36.440 chemical agents on the military personnel.

00:18:39.260 So for like 20 years, they were doing this.

00:18:41.420 Some of the first MK ultra programs was that right there.

00:18:43.800 Ooh, right.

00:18:44.840 You just stepped in it.

00:18:46.040 Bingo.

00:18:46.540 Yeah.

00:18:46.760 So this guy's there in the early, in the late forties, early fifties and MK ultra is

00:18:51.240 developed, I think in like 53 or something like that.

00:18:53.220 But this is all a direct line and we can point right at this guy.

00:18:56.760 He's doing it.

00:18:57.760 But anyway, in Edgewood Arsenal, they are messing with LSD, uh, benzodiazepines.

00:19:02.540 Shout out to Jordan Peterson.

00:19:04.540 And THC derivatives like K2, shit like this is a one of some of our favorite things.

00:19:09.320 Um, these are a few of our favorite things.

00:19:12.320 Favorite things.

00:19:13.200 Yeah.

00:19:13.440 Uh, CS gas, like so riot control nerve agents, mustard gas, nerve agents.

00:19:17.540 Uh, I can't even say this word, colon esterate and inhibitors and other psychochemicals.

00:19:22.320 This is what they were doing for years there.

00:19:25.000 And this guy, he happens to go to college to study this stuff and electrical impulses in

00:19:29.760 the brain happens to go into the military where he lands in this place, Edgewood Arsenal.

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00:20:00.480 charge.

00:20:00.800 Which, not suspicious at all.

00:20:04.480 Right.

00:20:04.840 Um, and by the way, Ryder, that, you know, these things were lent to the very beginnings

00:20:09.540 of MKUltra.

00:20:10.600 Like, this is going to be another theme that we're constantly going to dance around during

00:20:14.720 this discussion.

00:20:15.860 Yeah.

00:20:16.640 Well, they would also use, like you were talking about CS gas, they would essentially take

00:20:21.200 a highly potent version of LSD, which was called BZ.

00:20:26.520 I don't know if you guys have looked into this or not, but they would take BZ out in these

00:20:30.880 giant canisters and they would do like, like outfield, like simulations where they

00:20:37.040 would have the soldiers go out into a field and they would just bust open all these giant

00:20:41.460 barrels of BZ and let it go across the freaking field and hit all of the soldiers that were

00:20:46.620 out there testing.

00:20:47.540 Then they would go out and grab them, take them into the building and then ask them all

00:20:51.960 kinds of weird, strange, crazy questions.

00:20:53.860 And they would basically go out of their mind.

00:20:55.720 Can I just say, it must've been such a cool time to be involved in like science and military

00:21:01.220 intelligence.

00:21:01.820 Like, man, that's cool.

00:21:03.140 You get to be the guy who cracks open the barrel and then runs.

00:21:05.520 Like, I want to be that guy.

00:21:06.560 That's cool.

00:21:06.960 How much did they pay that guy?

00:21:07.880 Yeah.

00:21:08.100 Nowadays, they're just like, Hey, you want to, you want to cut off your penis?

00:21:11.560 Well, no, no, now they don't even do it.

00:21:13.720 Cause it used to happen in like this controlled environment.

00:21:15.700 Now they're just doing to us, doing it to us on scale.

00:21:18.540 Right.

00:21:18.840 So there's nobody.

00:21:19.600 Now the best is you get to be the guy who flies the plane, who sprays the chemicals.

00:21:22.920 It's not as cool.

00:21:23.960 Well, a lot of those guys, they had their, they made it seem like that that didn't even

00:21:30.060 happen to them.

00:21:30.760 Like, so all of the test people that went to that area that got tested there, I think

00:21:35.600 there was an army to begin with.

00:21:37.780 And then it kind of spread out all over the place, but then they kind of went back.

00:21:41.460 And like wipe the record of them ever being at that facility.

00:21:45.900 And they wouldn't, they wouldn't admit that they went through these tests, but they had

00:21:50.320 all these memories of them going through these weird and strange chemical testing.

00:21:55.440 Makes you wonder what they found.

00:21:56.940 It makes you wonder why this guy's, uh, why this guy wasn't wiped from being at Edgewood

00:22:02.120 Arsenal and everything else he does.

00:22:03.840 Cause when, when we start to lay this out for you, you're going to be like, that's not

00:22:06.940 true because it's everything that you think and talk about all day long.

00:22:10.260 It's this guy doing this shit.

00:22:11.820 It's, it's wild.

00:22:12.840 So, all right.

00:22:13.920 Uh, he, he goes to Edgewood Arsenal.

00:22:15.720 He comes out, starts doing, uh, testing immediately.

00:22:18.800 And one of the things, one of the first things that he was working on, which, uh, it got a

00:22:22.420 patent.

00:22:23.140 He got a U S patent granted in 1961, but he was working on this much earlier was, uh, this

00:22:29.740 dental implant technology.

00:22:31.300 So, uh, basically it was like, I think of like a hearing aid, but in your tooth, they

00:22:38.000 replace your tooth and this has some sort of like metals in it and it'll like connect

00:22:42.440 to the, your, connect to your jawbone and then just send frequencies and vibrations to

00:22:46.680 make you feel like you're hearing stuff.

00:22:48.940 So this guy was working on that for what, I don't even know why they would grant this

00:22:53.360 a patent.

00:22:53.720 I don't know why they would think this is a good idea, but the guy was doing this stuff

00:22:58.240 on a side tangent, um, L Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, he had a dental procedure

00:23:04.980 around the fifties.

00:23:07.040 Uh, after that, he almost died on the table during it.

00:23:10.560 And then he started getting the inspiration to, to, uh, create a Dianetics and then Scientology

00:23:16.980 in 1953.

00:23:17.860 I can't prove it, I can't prove that this, uh, that Puharich was involved, but I can prove

00:23:26.760 that this guy almost died on the table of, uh, a dental operating, a dental operation,

00:23:31.780 and then was in contact with aliens from outer space.

00:23:35.500 And he creates an entire religion that is still exists today that, you know, is basically

00:23:40.020 a honeypot for celebrities.

00:23:41.000 So you put that where you will.

00:23:42.660 That's like extreme speculation on my end.

00:23:45.640 I'll admit that, but a little weird.

00:23:47.540 Well, we're top is saying like, we don't know why or, or, or what the point is.

00:23:51.860 I mean, we can only speculate as to why or what the point is.

00:23:56.760 And that speculation has a lot to do with the fact that that theme keeps popping up.

00:24:01.420 Um, this dental implant, this receiving of frequencies, and then this communication with

00:24:07.000 entities comes up over and over and over again.

00:24:10.260 And by the end of this, um, I think the audience is going to be just as crazy as we are.

00:24:15.300 Um, so, um, this is where you get the story from, uh, I guess, uh, about the tinfoil hat.

00:24:23.120 Um, there's another dude that he was investigating that had something that he had like a dental

00:24:28.600 filling.

00:24:28.960 I think this might come around the time of his invention with the, this tooth thing.

00:24:33.500 Another dude with a dental filling and he's going crazy.

00:24:36.440 He went to a mental institution because he's hearing voices in his head and Puharich shows

00:24:40.700 up again to investigate.

00:24:42.380 This is corroborated, or at least it's, uh, it's tangentially told with the story of Lucille

00:24:48.380 Ball from I Love Lucy.

00:24:50.220 We actually, I have a video.

00:24:51.460 I don't know if you want to watch this, but, uh, it's a, it's a little bit long, but you

00:24:56.060 guys can find it.

00:24:56.980 Just Lucille Ball, Japanese spy communications.

00:25:00.340 You can look that up on YouTube.

00:25:01.840 It's a wild story actually.

00:25:02.940 Yeah.

00:25:03.160 Like I wasn't aware because the implications of, of this are like, oh, Lucille Ball, like

00:25:09.900 helped us to avoid some sort of real war issue with, with Japan.

00:25:14.580 Like it, it's a very strange, uh, situation.

00:25:17.480 Um, and, and we're going to end up coming back to it too, but if we want to just give

00:25:21.040 a quick overview top, if you don't mind.

00:25:22.780 Um, basically what happens is Lucille Ball, uh, goes for, you know, routine dental surgery.

00:25:29.200 And then the next thing, you know, she's having some sort of, and I think it was just a filling.

00:25:34.180 Um, she's suddenly picking up music in her car and she can't identify where the music

00:25:39.180 is coming from.

00:25:40.140 Uh, and then all of a sudden she realizes it's coming from inside of her mouth.

00:25:42.940 And we've seen this plot device, by the way, play out in all sorts of cartoons, right?

00:25:47.340 You see this in cartoons a lot, especially old timey cartoons, because back in the day,

00:25:50.700 you know, we're talking like Looney Tunes and such.

00:25:52.780 Uh, this thing was still kind of a talking point.

00:25:54.560 And she realizes that, uh, you know, it's music and she even recognizes the melody.

00:26:00.280 And, um, so she goes and, and she's told by somebody who says like, oh, did you happen

00:26:04.480 to have a dental implant recently?

00:26:05.700 She goes, yeah, I did.

00:26:07.020 And it turns out that this thing is picking up this frequency.

00:26:09.680 Now, at some point, Lucille Ball actually goes on to pick up some sort of like muttered

00:26:15.200 communication.

00:26:16.260 Turns out that there was a Japanese insurgents, uh, you know, having, uh, radio communications.

00:26:22.440 In a covert way that Lucille Ball was able to pick up on.

00:26:27.380 And then because of that, uh, our own military was able to use that information to intercept

00:26:31.560 the situation.

00:26:32.520 It's fucking crazy.

00:26:34.500 That is really crazy.

00:26:35.780 Really, really crazy.

00:26:37.360 And of course, uh, so this is, it's like, oh my God, Ryder.

00:26:41.240 This is all happening, uh, at the same time.

00:26:44.240 She's, uh, I'm, I'm listening to this where, where I, where I actually picked up.

00:26:47.220 What year was that top?

00:26:48.180 That was like in the fifties, um, fifties, yeah, early fifties, all around the same time.

00:26:53.780 Um, but I first picked this up on the telepathy tapes.

00:26:57.000 They're talking about this.

00:26:58.700 Um, so I was like, what the hell?

00:27:00.220 And then they immediately mentioned Andrija Puharic right after they're like, oh, by the

00:27:03.880 way, there's a guy who was working on some, uh, he, he found Lucille Ball's case interesting.

00:27:09.160 And he was also looking at a guy that went crazy in a mental institution and he had some

00:27:14.200 kind of dental implant and it has something to do with the type of metal that they were

00:27:17.040 using at the time for the filling.

00:27:19.040 It was picking up radio signals.

00:27:20.680 So this might've been where he, uh, either got the idea of how to do it or intervened

00:27:27.300 and actually like started just putting this thing in people's mouths.

00:27:30.380 I don't, it's, it's not clear.

00:27:32.660 You've got to see this from our like point of view though, Ryder.

00:27:35.540 It's like, we, we stumble upon Puharic and we go, this guy, and we'll establish it as

00:27:40.980 we do this show, um, is like kind of the mascot for conspiracy theories and, and not

00:27:45.380 a lot of people are talking about him.

00:27:46.660 Um, people are aware of him, but not, not to the degree that he's so like connected to

00:27:50.920 all of this conspiracy lore.

00:27:52.780 And, and then all this, and we, so we, we dedicate an entire episode to him.

00:27:57.020 It's an NDS deep dive where we talk specifically about Puharic and, you know, how he's integrated

00:28:02.660 into all of these different aspects of conspiracy theory.

00:28:05.800 And then all of a sudden I, this is, you know, and we're not going to get straight into it

00:28:09.540 yet, but I get this feeling that there's something happening with the telepathy tapes, something

00:28:15.080 that we don't quite understand and that there is a deception within it.

00:28:19.580 And I, I can't help, but shake this feeling to the extent that I call top and to top's

00:28:24.440 credit, when we have an idea, top is like the action guy.

00:28:28.080 As soon as I tell him something and he sees that it's like, yeah, I think you're right.

00:28:31.960 He will dive into it and start digging.

00:28:34.020 Right.

00:28:34.260 And so I get a call like, I don't know, a half an hour later or something like that, or later

00:28:40.380 on in the day.

00:28:41.000 And he goes, Hey, listen to episode.

00:28:43.640 We lost top there for a second.

00:28:45.100 Uh, listen to episode three and listen to the first five minutes.

00:28:49.340 And I listened to the first five minutes and all of a sudden Puharic, the guy who we just

00:28:53.260 did a deep dive on is name dropped in this podcast that I just got a weird feeling about.

00:29:00.320 The whole thing is like serendipitous.

00:29:03.500 The way that we, we sort of stepped in this, uh, hold on a second.

00:29:06.500 Let me see if he said anything.

00:29:07.480 Okay.

00:29:07.680 He's going to have to refresh his, uh, his, uh, computer there.

00:29:11.820 I haven't listened to the, uh, telepathy tapes.

00:29:15.820 Um, I've heard people talking about them and how they're so great and how everything is

00:29:21.100 going on.

00:29:21.520 I just haven't, I don't know enough about it, but I guess they explain everything within

00:29:27.400 the tapes or something.

00:29:29.340 So the telepathy tapes, um, and I'll just kind of go on this until top comes back.

00:29:34.580 I don't know how much we're going to unpack right at this point in the show, but more or

00:29:38.460 less what happens is the parents, several parents of nonverbal autistic children who have

00:29:46.160 been told by the medical industry that their children are simply not in there.

00:29:49.880 And, you know, that's devastating to a parent.

00:29:53.860 And so a lot of these parents don't take, uh, the medical industry's, you know, information

00:30:01.380 as gospel.

00:30:02.300 They kind of stick to this idea of like, no, my child is in there.

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00:30:34.920 They end up realizing that these children can communicate.

00:30:41.480 But in a very, uh, non-traditional way, it seems that they can communicate through telepathy.

00:30:46.920 So what happens is, uh, I believe her name is Kai Dickens, uh, along with a doctor.

00:30:52.000 I forget what her name is.

00:30:53.080 They start to pursue these stories and go and have communications with these families.

00:30:57.900 And a lot of it just happens to like video calls at first.

00:30:59.860 But you have, you know, uh, one girl from Mexico, her name is Mia, and, uh, and her parents

00:31:05.500 are basically showing on this, on this video recording to, uh, this doctor that what essentially

00:31:12.380 happens is the parents can think of a number and the children, though they're nonverbal through,

00:31:18.880 uh, I think it's like supported, uh, typing or, or, or something like that.

00:31:23.220 It's a method of typing where nonverbal autistic children won't really engage with the keyboard,

00:31:27.360 but apparently they found that some of them, if they guide their hand a little bit, and that even

00:31:32.080 sounds sketchy, right?

00:31:33.360 Uh, guiding their hand because it, okay, tops back, by the way, you can pop them in.

00:31:36.860 Um, they will touch their hand maybe at the wrist, and this will enable them to start the typing

00:31:42.600 process and then to alleviate that suspicion of like, you're, you're touching a child by the wrist.

00:31:47.260 They might, you might be guiding them.

00:31:48.620 They eventually move that touch all the way up to the arm, and they move it all the way up to the

00:31:52.100 shoulder, and some of them even touch them in the center of the forehead.

00:31:54.500 And then somehow this nonverbal autistic child is engaging with this type, uh, this keyboard

00:31:59.020 and predicting the numbers that the parents are thinking exclusively.

00:32:04.120 Now, of course, this is just in a video call environment, so there's a lot of studies that

00:32:07.400 need to be done still, but they then go on to do those studies.

00:32:10.520 Uh, top, I was just explaining, uh, a little bit about what the telepathy tapes are because

00:32:14.960 Ryder actually hasn't seen them, which, you know, previous to that gut feeling that I had,

00:32:19.400 Ryder, I also had not seen them.

00:32:20.980 But I was like, I don't know, suspicious of them.

00:32:24.760 It just seems strange to me, to be honest, that, um, something that was typically dismissed

00:32:30.500 as pseudoscience, not that I ever did that, but, uh, certainly the scientific community

00:32:35.400 at large dismissed it that way, would all of a sudden become the number one podcast in

00:32:40.060 the world after Joe Rogan blows it up.

00:32:42.040 And so, um, but we're going to end up probably-

00:32:44.820 Well, we're in the golden age, Raven, don't you know?

00:32:46.900 We're in the golden age of humanity, dude.

00:32:48.620 That's right.

00:32:49.160 The Kali Yuga is ending, and now we are all going to, uh, spiritually ascend, and that means

00:32:54.140 that information and, and, you know, gnosis, all of that is coming our way.

00:32:58.480 So, uh, very much looking forward to that.

00:33:00.360 Top, is that, did you want to go there yet, though, or do you want to unpack some other stuff

00:33:03.900 before we start going into, uh, telepathy tapes?

00:33:05.940 Also, you're muted.

00:33:09.320 Uh, still, oh, there we go.

00:33:10.480 All right, we're good.

00:33:11.500 Um, I don't, I, I don't really know how to tell this story, to be honest, because it's

00:33:15.120 like, it's all over the place and it's constant, it's constantly interrupted by this guy, Andreeja

00:33:20.080 Puharic.

00:33:21.040 So, and I feel like it is, when you get to a certain point, you're like, well, we kind

00:33:24.780 of have to talk about the telepathy tapes now.

00:33:26.460 Like, with this Lucille ballpoint is a very interesting point to be like, okay, um, but now the number

00:33:32.540 one podcast in the world, or at least for a time, or, and it's still being talked about

00:33:36.640 by Rogan, is, uh, is talking about this in a weird way.

00:33:41.140 They're just like, she's briefly like, uh, just brushing it because I don't, there's a

00:33:45.300 couple of ways you can go.

00:33:46.320 Either she doesn't understand and can't put together the pieces, or they have a better

00:33:51.420 idea and they have a narrative to push.

00:33:54.220 Uh, so this piece doesn't fit with their narrative.

00:33:57.520 I'm thinking that a good way to start to get into this would be, we've already established

00:34:01.980 that Puharic is, is operating pretty much at the end of World War II and the very beginnings

00:34:08.640 of the MKUltra program.

00:34:11.480 And, uh, there is a line that we've discovered that shows like the MKUltra program would have

00:34:17.400 had a vested interest in, especially that sort of, um, you know, voice of God technology,

00:34:23.520 this ability to project radio waves and frequencies at a human being and have them perceive them

00:34:29.800 audibly.

00:34:30.860 Um, and so the, the, the dental implant was kind of like the initiator to that.

00:34:35.720 But I think it's also worth noting that during Operation Paperclip, uh, where we took over

00:34:40.180 all these Nazi scientists right after World War II, right at the beginning of this program,

00:34:44.080 uh, a lot of their research, Mengele's research and things like that, you know, he was obsessed

00:34:49.140 with like the psychic connection between twins and all of these horrifying experiments that

00:34:53.300 he would, uh, engage in to try to provoke in one way or another, these latent psychic abilities.

00:35:01.380 A lot of that research goes into the beginnings of the MKUltra program.

00:35:06.200 So now this is where things get really strange.

00:35:09.480 Well, let's, uh, let's take another detour.

00:35:11.500 So we go from, yeah, we're going to, uh, um, Lucille Ball to this guy's patient that he

00:35:17.700 was seeing in, in a mental institution, all having to do with the tooth implant that are

00:35:22.000 picking up radio waves and going crazy.

00:35:24.080 This is like, this is why we say it's like the origination of the tinfoil hat.

00:35:27.380 They're like, that's kind of where this comes from.

00:35:29.860 It's this technology, almost a hundred percent.

00:35:32.080 It was put in a guy's brain.

00:35:33.880 Uh, it apparently it can just be put in your house and they can disseminate these waves

00:35:38.040 and voice to God technology, make you go crazy.

00:35:40.620 By the way, should we, I just want to say to people top when they do the big fake alien

00:35:45.700 disclosure and they start talking in your mind when they arrive and their motherships

00:35:49.620 appear in the sky, wrap your head in tinfoil.

00:35:51.780 Cause it actually seems to work.

00:35:53.360 They just don't, but they want you to think it's a joke.

00:35:55.360 M night Shyamalan knows what's up.

00:35:56.980 Uh, signs.

00:35:58.140 You remember that scene where they're all wrapped in tinfoil?

00:36:00.780 Yeah.

00:36:01.220 There's a little bit of disclosure there.

00:36:03.760 Something to tell you.

00:36:04.540 It may be something to do with water.

00:36:05.800 I don't know.

00:36:06.180 Keep your eyes open for that.

00:36:07.180 But, uh,

00:36:07.980 what I had always heard like back in the day to not get, when you're getting your tooth,

00:36:13.480 like a cavity filled or whatever, to not get the silver.

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00:36:45.680 Or whatever it was that they filled the cavities with.

00:36:48.880 Now, I don't think that they do the silver anymore at all, period.

00:36:53.960 You have to get them.

00:36:54.540 That's because it's not necessary anymore, Ryder.

00:36:56.460 And we're going to get to that, too.

00:36:58.240 Now it's like clear.

00:36:59.640 It's like a, like a clear paste that they just like drill in there and then put it on.

00:37:05.580 Maybe this is the reason why people don't like Dennis.

00:37:07.460 I don't like the Dennis.

00:37:08.100 Nobody likes a dentist.

00:37:09.280 I don't like the dentist either.

00:37:10.640 I also don't think that we need to get our wisdom teeth removed, but that's a whole other

00:37:13.480 thing.

00:37:13.940 I don't think so either, but I unfortunately did.

00:37:16.460 Me too, dude.

00:37:17.280 I let them, like I never went to the dentist or the doctor.

00:37:19.920 And then in one year as a father and a husband, I was like, it's probably time to take care

00:37:23.300 of my health.

00:37:23.780 And then I came out of that year only having one testicle because they took one and not

00:37:28.140 having my wisdom teeth because they ripped those out, too.

00:37:30.080 Damn, they took your testicle, too?

00:37:31.500 Well, I had cancer.

00:37:33.180 I discovered that I had cancer or I don't know.

00:37:35.700 I don't know if I really had cancer.

00:37:36.780 I think that guy was just collecting balls.

00:37:38.600 So, you know, joke's on me.

00:37:41.360 Don't go to the, you know, don't go to the doctors.

00:37:43.840 So, okay.

00:37:44.680 All right.

00:37:44.860 Well, there's this one cult from the 90s that claimed that you had to cut off your testicles

00:37:52.740 to be a part of the cult to give it to the extraterrestrials to fuel their ship.

00:37:58.080 That's where my testicle is.

00:38:00.120 My urologist gave it to the aliens.

00:38:02.260 And now somebody's flying around on my dime.

00:38:05.340 They're fine.

00:38:05.900 Which is great.

00:38:06.600 It's fine.

00:38:07.240 That's excellent.

00:38:08.000 Edward Malick is the guy's name.

00:38:14.060 Edward Malick.

00:38:14.660 I can't think of the name of the cult, but yeah, that's what he believes.

00:38:17.980 He's the guy that was taking balls for aliens.

00:38:19.640 UFO fuel is stored in the balls.

00:38:21.780 Who knew?

00:38:23.440 All right.

00:38:23.760 So, so the side, the, the other side here, this is another interesting thing that we

00:38:27.760 picked up from our friend control old history.

00:38:29.820 Uh, so again, 1950s, this guy's running around, he's popping up, he's visiting people, he's

00:38:34.920 going places, he's just moving and shaking, probably doing some stuff with, uh, I don't

00:38:39.680 know, doing some shitty things in his spare time.

00:38:41.460 But, uh, he pops up in Brazil again.

00:38:43.300 This is just another story that this guy was telling us about, uh, a guy named Dr.

00:38:47.820 Arrigo, original name, Jose Pedro de Freitas.

00:38:50.700 Uh, he was born in the twenties in Brazil and he was a taxi driver, just like a regular

00:38:55.260 dude at that time, probably couldn't even read in Brazil.

00:38:58.580 I mean, most of the people there can't read now, so I can't imagine he was educated at

00:39:04.300 all.

00:39:04.940 Um, but in the 1950s, he claims that he channels an entity and the entity is named Dr. Fritz.

00:39:12.140 It's a dead German surgeon.

00:39:14.060 And, he opens up his own practice in Brazil and he starts to perform surgeries.

00:39:20.940 They called him the doctor-

00:39:21.940 While channeling this dude.

00:39:22.940 Yeah.

00:39:23.940 Yeah.

00:39:24.940 While channeling Dr. Fritz.

00:39:25.940 Uh, they called him the doctor of the rusty knife.

00:39:28.940 He was using tools like kitchen knives, scissors, and other rusty instruments to remove tumors,

00:39:35.100 extract cataracts from people's eyes, and also just giving them overall advice, which by all

00:39:41.180 accounts helped there's, there are documentaries about it.

00:39:44.780 There's videos on YouTube of him doing these surgeries.

00:39:46.980 Yeah.

00:39:47.980 They made a movie.

00:39:48.980 In 2022, a movie came out about him.

00:39:49.980 Yeah.

00:39:50.980 So only, only three years ago, they're making movies about this guy.

00:39:52.980 Yeah.

00:39:53.980 He's like, so there's videos of him removing, uh, I guess, tumors from people and there's

00:39:59.780 like minimal bleeding, rapid recovery.

00:40:03.300 It's all on eight millimeter film, but it's, it's out there.

00:40:05.380 You can check it out.

00:40:06.380 And of course your boy on vacation, he shows up, he's like, yo, what are you doing over

00:40:11.860 here?

00:40:12.860 And Juju Puharic is there and he's like, yeah, this guy's legit.

00:40:15.140 And then he's, then he flies back to America and that's it.

00:40:18.540 I was just like, what, wait, what did you say?

00:40:19.940 Like when, when he told us that, cause I'm like, who, who was there is like, and Juju

00:40:24.180 Puharic just showed up, confirmed what he was doing and said, yep, that's in line.

00:40:28.340 See you later.

00:40:29.340 So it's like, so now the through line becomes a little bit more clear to us.

00:40:33.260 Cause we're putting together that picture of what this guy is, what he does.

00:40:36.060 And it's like, all right, he's an investigator.

00:40:37.620 He's an, he's an inventor.

00:40:39.180 He's a, some sort of scientist, but he's also involved with this woo stuff and like telepathy.

00:40:44.900 I've been describing him as like a, he's kind of like the, uh, paranormal

00:40:49.900 scientific communities, Nick Fury.

00:40:51.740 Right.

00:40:51.980 Cause he also does the same thing.

00:40:53.180 He goes and checks out that doctor who's channeling that spirit, but he also goes and

00:40:57.660 checks out, uh, Uri Geller, who is the spoon bending, uh, uh, uh, you know, telekinesis.

00:41:05.100 And, you know, a lot, there's a lot of stuff about whether or not the spoon is made out of

00:41:08.940 a certain material that is, once you warm it up, it's got a lower melting point than like

00:41:12.940 another, uh, type of metal.

00:41:14.700 But the point is Puharic finds this guy interesting and is going and seeking him out.

00:41:19.900 And so they end up having a ton of interactions together.

00:41:22.700 Uh, whatever this guy is, he suddenly has the funds to travel all around the world and

00:41:28.220 sort of try to collect psychic Avengers, uh, in very many ways.

00:41:32.220 So the question becomes then who the hell is backing this guy?

00:41:35.660 You know, he's got all this time and, and this, this money where he can just pursue these

00:41:40.380 things that are probably fruitless if you're not doing them, uh, with the backing of an

00:41:45.180 intelligence agency.

00:41:46.060 You know what I mean?

00:41:46.860 Because the, the scientific community at large dismisses that.

00:41:50.220 So there is a shady wing of the scientific community that is exploring that.

00:41:54.780 Think the men who stare at goats, right?

00:41:57.340 We're talking about our central intelligence agency having a vested interest in the

00:42:01.900 psychic phenomenon.

00:42:02.780 And that is going to play a huge theme in this.

00:42:05.100 Um, well, yes, that's again, points right back at this.

00:42:08.860 Um, well, the CIA wasn't, the CIA didn't have a psychic program.

00:42:14.140 They were funding psychic research in a, in a psychic program, right?

00:42:18.220 It was the, they were the one of the release, the documents, but it was a DIA and army intelligence.

00:42:23.260 That was, uh, an SRI in the early seventies that were doing all the experiments and using

00:42:29.260 psychics to, uh, you know, collect foreign intelligence data.

00:42:33.500 So I would say that the, the precursor to this though, is all of the events that we're

00:42:38.060 talking about now, because I think psychic phenomenon got on, let's just say like colloquially

00:42:43.180 the government.

00:42:43.740 David, what he's talking about is it too.

00:42:45.340 And we're going to get there that you're talking about project stargate, right?

00:42:47.820 Yes.

00:42:48.220 Okay.

00:42:49.020 Yeah.

00:42:49.340 So yes, I, and so many people have researched project stargate, but I don't know how you

00:42:55.020 haven't come across his name because he's one of the guys that received a lot of funding

00:42:58.140 for this shit, but that's, I think we should get to that a little bit after because we've

00:43:02.460 got to explain.

00:43:03.740 Do you want to do the, the overlap here between MK ultra Montauk project and like, let's say

00:43:09.900 telepathy tapes.

00:43:11.180 Yeah, go for it.

00:43:12.140 Okay.

00:43:12.460 So, um, the thing that becomes concerning about the telepathy tapes, because on its face, um,

00:43:19.100 Ian Carroll said something, he's like, hope is a through line that exists all throughout

00:43:22.860 these stories on the telepathy tapes.

00:43:24.700 And I would agree with that, right?

00:43:25.740 As a parent, you have these nonverbal autistic children.

00:43:28.860 The medical industry is telling you to essentially give up on your child.

00:43:32.220 And all of a sudden you find that there is some viable means of communication, but it far

00:43:36.460 exceeds what the medical or the scientific community is willing to accept.

00:43:40.540 So there is hope, and this is kind of a beautiful thing, or is it right?

00:43:45.420 So what I started thinking about is, um, well, how do these children become autistic, right?

00:43:51.500 And we're not going to talk about it in depth on the show because it's a very dangerous topic.

00:43:55.580 Um, so I'll try to speak colloquially, but essentially my mind goes to all of the potential

00:44:02.860 damages from medical interventions, right?

00:44:06.220 And we're not going to talk about those medical interventions because we're on YouTube.

00:44:09.900 Um, but everybody knows that, you know, anecdotally, there is a large and growing community of people

00:44:16.780 on the internet who are the parents of children who are autistic or nonverbal autistic who, who

00:44:23.180 speculate that they would have been fine except for one childhood medical intervention.

00:44:31.340 Okay.

00:44:32.140 So we have the MKUltra project.

00:44:33.580 Let's put that to the side.

00:44:36.060 The MKUltra project, you can kind of wrap it up or, or, or summarize it as an attempt to

00:44:43.740 create or exploit disassociative identity disorders, possibly through trauma and whether or not

00:44:51.900 that trauma took place before the MKUltra project intercepted them, or if it happened

00:44:56.780 at the behest of the MKUltra project, doesn't matter.

00:44:59.500 The trauma creates a disassociative identity disorder.

00:45:03.260 Now that opens the door to a couple of things.

00:45:06.620 One is how suggestible does that make a person?

00:45:10.780 Can you program them?

00:45:12.380 Right.

00:45:12.620 So I'm, I'm talking about, you know, think about, um, uh, what the hell's the name of

00:45:18.380 that Kubrick film?

00:45:20.380 Uh, um,

00:45:21.340 Clockwork Orange.

00:45:22.060 Clockwork Orange.

00:45:23.020 You sit them in a chair, you strap their eyeballs open, you inundate them with LSD or

00:45:27.340 some other psychedelic, and you expose them to, uh, trauma inducing propaganda.

00:45:32.700 Right.

00:45:33.420 Uh, you also have the idea of like kidnapping Johns from whorehouses and dosing them with LSD to

00:45:38.140 see, you know, what that brings to fruition.

00:45:40.220 And then there's the Midnight Climax.

00:45:43.340 Yes.

00:45:43.580 Thank you.

00:45:44.140 Midnight Climax is the name of that operation.

00:45:45.900 And then you have, uh, the sensationalized version, which I think there's probably a lot

00:45:50.620 of truth in, uh, of the Montauk project, or at least that's what they drew inspiration

00:45:55.740 from to create Stranger Things, right?

00:45:57.740 And Stranger Things is a piece of fiction, but worth looking at here at the root.

00:46:01.500 It's very much the same thing.

00:46:02.860 You're taking children and you're traumatizing them to do what?

00:46:06.940 To expose latent psychic abilities, right?

00:46:10.460 And there's a lot of truth in fiction.

00:46:12.620 Um, and that's a lot of what people speculate was actually happening there.

00:46:16.460 Uh, I think that's also correlates pretty well with the idea.

00:46:21.100 If you're thinking about demonic possession, who is the most vulnerable to like demonic possession?

00:46:26.380 I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but just follow me.

00:46:28.620 People that have trauma?

00:46:30.140 Children in particular who have trauma.

00:46:33.100 So what I'm seeing here in these telepathy tapes is I'm seeing children who are being traumatized.

00:46:41.100 Now, whether or not that's purposeful or anything like that, put that to the side.

00:46:46.060 They're traumatized in the sense that after this medical intervention, they become nonverbal autists.

00:46:54.220 Essentially, they are locked in a body that will not do their bidding.

00:46:58.540 You have no choice in that instance, but to disassociate, right?

00:47:04.940 And all of a sudden, disassociation begets some latent psychic ability.

00:47:11.180 You're touching on something that I've been talking about for a minute.

00:47:15.260 Really?

00:47:15.660 A minute, yeah.

00:47:17.180 Once I read all of the MKUltra documents, I went through them all, and I realized what the program was really about.

00:47:23.740 And it was about activating these people into their psychic abilities, mind fracturing them to create this offset, this offshoot of psychic powers.

00:47:35.820 And there was at least four to five different MKUltra subprojects.

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00:48:08.600 And people that I've talked to about this, they think that they're like, no, it wasn't.

00:48:13.720 No, they weren't trying to unlock psychic abilities.

00:48:16.640 I'm like, well, you can just look through the documents.

00:48:19.600 You can see that there was at least five subprograms of MKUltra that was literally dedicated to unlocking psychic abilities.

00:48:27.640 Right.

00:48:27.880 Yeah.

00:48:28.500 Right.

00:48:28.780 Now, people want to say that that's fiction, and I think that Stranger Things did a really good job of kind of galvanizing people to that ideology, that this is just fiction.

00:48:37.320 But like you said, there's a lot of veracity to it.

00:48:39.340 This is a reality.

00:48:40.240 This is something that they were pursuing.

00:48:41.480 Now, it's open to speculation, of course, whether or not they achieve that.

00:48:45.240 And then, of course, the MKUltra program gets shut down, which I would argue really what happened is they realized that it's viable, and now they can roll it out in scale.

00:48:54.820 Right.

00:48:55.280 Because previously, you know, Operation Midnight Climax, you have to go through kidnapping these Johns and then dosing them and da-da-da-da-da.

00:49:02.000 But once you get to the point where you realize that this is viable, well, now you can kind of make us free-range MKUltra, you know, patients.

00:49:09.260 And I would argue that that's very much the case right now because we are constantly propagandized.

00:49:14.940 We carry around our little propaganda device, and we inundate ourselves with trauma-inducing media and propaganda all day long.

00:49:23.300 And also, I would say that because of the industry surrounding marijuana, they have increased the THC to such staggering levels that you are in a constant state because now it's, like, socially acceptable.

00:49:36.180 And I think more people are smoking weed than ever before.

00:49:38.420 And if you want to smoke weed, that's all fine, you know, but I'm not saying don't do that.

00:49:41.460 I'm just saying recognize that you are in a constant state of, like, a low-grade anxiety.

00:49:46.500 And as you're in this constant state of low-grade anxiety, you're just propagandizing yourself with this little scrying mirror, right?

00:49:52.580 Yes, so I think nowadays the MKUltra program is at scale.

00:49:58.140 It's happening at mass.

00:49:59.480 It's no longer happening in the, you know, some underground corner of a deep underground military base where the, you know, intelligence operations are happening.

00:50:06.060 It's now happening in, you know, in your living room.

00:50:09.460 It almost feels like a weird sort of disclosure by the government that telepathy tapes being like, well, hero, this is what we've been giving you since, you know, 1983 where we formulated a schedule.

00:50:22.980 I'm not going to say the word.

00:50:24.640 And here's what we found.

00:50:27.060 We found that these kids can see what their mother is doing when she's in the car.

00:50:31.260 And we found that they can communicate with each other on something that they're calling a hill.

00:50:35.360 And they like to, they're also, they're comparing it to this idea of, like, CB radio.

00:50:41.260 These guys are going, they're going within themselves and they're going to this place where they communicate.

00:50:46.080 But they also mentioned, like, hey, these guys are also communicating with their dead ancestors.

00:50:50.740 They're also communicating with entities.

00:50:52.760 This, this little girl, Mia, is seeing people in the corner and she's talking to them.

00:50:58.360 Sometimes she's scared.

00:50:59.460 Sometimes she doesn't like them.

00:51:00.580 Sometimes she will communicate.

00:51:01.720 So it's like, all these worlds are just colliding all at once.

00:51:07.360 And it's, it's hard to not look at it and go, well, what is the point of Project MKUlture?

00:51:12.620 What were they trying to do?

00:51:14.140 Because it seems like this is what they're trying to do.

00:51:16.880 And now they have rolled it out in the largest scale possible.

00:51:21.040 Like Nazi Germany, Nazi Germany was not good enough.

00:51:24.180 Now we have a diverse population in America and we are going to experiment and see what we get.

00:51:30.980 And I think that they-

00:51:31.340 Not only that too, but I, we were talking earlier on the last show, Top, where it's like Nazi Germany got so far, but I don't think that it was ready for this mass rollout.

00:51:39.440 We needed something.

00:51:40.720 We needed to be like propagandized for generations to accept a particular narrative.

00:51:44.620 Like if I'm doing the experiment, I want as much diversity as possible.

00:51:49.540 I don't want one specific type of bloodline because you're not going to get the findings that you're looking for.

00:51:54.680 And this looks like an experiment to me.

00:51:56.500 This looks like they understand what it is.

00:51:59.920 And, you know, it looks again, and not to defend these people, I think they're out of their mind.

00:52:04.720 It's super nefarious, but they're, they're getting information about the human condition that we wouldn't know otherwise.

00:52:10.900 You know, so like part of me is like, I don't know.

00:52:15.480 I think we would have known.

00:52:16.460 I think our ancestors had a much better handle on it.

00:52:18.460 I think they were worshiping the wrong entities.

00:52:21.000 But I mean, I do think we had a much better handle on the spiritual realm and these entities that exist in it.

00:52:25.860 And I think that was purposely stripped from us.

00:52:28.000 And we were given materialism in the scientific worldview.

00:52:30.500 And then over time, once we became comfortable with it not existing at all, and they also inundated us with crap they're spraying in the sky, schedules that you have to go through as a child, all of the poison that's in your food.

00:52:42.220 I think this is an ability that exists within all of us, but it's been stifled.

00:52:45.940 And I would argue it's been stifled on purpose.

00:52:48.200 But you said something before, Ryder.

00:52:51.320 You said that they no longer use metal in the fillings.

00:52:53.680 And I said because they don't have to, right?

00:52:56.720 Now, the reason I think that they don't have to, much like when the MKUltra program proved its viability and they rolled it out at scale to the public, the same thing happened in that aspect of the program.

00:53:11.300 And what I mean by that is your teeth, the nerve endings in your teeth are like the most direct ones to your brain, right?

00:53:19.340 All your nerve endings go to your brain, but there's a huge fear that if you get, like my sister-in-law had this happen, something, I forgot what it was exactly, but she was going to get like a brain infection or some crazy shit like that because she had a cavity that had gone too far.

00:53:33.940 So there is a real fear, like if you let your teeth rot out of your head, they're a direct route to your brain and you can get some real serious infections that way.

00:53:40.780 Um, so in that way, it makes sense to me that they would start at the teeth, but eventually what's, what's, what's better?

00:53:48.580 What's more viable here?

00:53:50.060 Um, getting individuals and going through this strenuous thing where you got to drill out their teeth and fill it with some foreign body and yada, yada, yada, or.

00:53:57.500 And they could just mess it up with some tinfoil.

00:54:00.200 Yeah, and then they could just mess it up with some tinfoil, right?

00:54:02.840 Or you get the whole country on a medical intervention schedule when they're kids and the medical intervention has heavy metals in it.

00:54:12.580 And where do the heavy metals settle?

00:54:14.640 Everybody says that they settle in your brain.

00:54:16.940 So in my, I'm wondering here if what we've gotten to the point is like metal's a great conductor.

00:54:21.680 That's why it works to, to conduct these frequencies and vibrations so that you can now have access to this, you know, voice to skull technology.

00:54:28.740 Well, what happens when we're all getting inundated with it as children multiple times?

00:54:33.380 Because now that schedule is up to like 60 some odd, you know, interventions.

00:54:37.480 Ridiculous amount of times.

00:54:38.520 Ridiculous amount, right?

00:54:39.980 So how many, how much heavy metals do we have in our brain?

00:54:43.420 I don't even know.

00:54:44.300 Is it more, and is it more effective than like one piece of metal in a molar?

00:54:49.800 I would have to say so, yeah.

00:54:51.620 This is really nuts because I've, this is the exact same type of direction that I went with all this as well.

00:54:59.660 And whenever I read all the MKUltra documents, that's what took me to looking into the psychic remote viewing, DIA Army intelligence stuff, which then brought me to interviewing all of the people that were a part of those programs.

00:55:14.420 So I've had Dr. David Morehouse on, I've had Lynn Buchanan on, I've had Dr. Paul Smith, I've had Dale Graff.

00:55:21.460 Dale Graff was the, the guy that started the name Stargate.

00:55:26.460 He's the one that came up with the name and named it Stargate.

00:55:30.160 And I think that this stuff, it evolves, just like how remote viewing evolved and just like how MKUltra evolved, it's turned into something completely different.

00:55:41.420 And I think that what has happened is that they did this on like human beings, right?

00:55:47.580 And then they were like, okay, well, how do we remove human beings out of the equation?

00:55:51.260 Because human beings are unpredictable.

00:55:53.500 It's very difficult to control a human being unless you got, you know, the metal brain, unless you're metallizing in your brain, then it's going to be more difficult.

00:56:00.960 But then even then it's even hard.

00:56:03.320 It's hard to do that because there's so many unpredictable and variables that can happen with that.

00:56:10.380 So how do we take human beings completely out of the equation?

00:56:15.500 Well, what we can do is we can develop a technology to do that.

00:56:21.260 So therefore, we don't have to have psychics remote viewing anymore.

00:56:26.760 We don't have to break down these people psychologically and split their consciousness and make them disassociate.

00:56:33.620 We can wrap this into a freaking technology.

00:56:37.160 And a technology is never going to fail because the technology is a technology.

00:56:42.540 It's robotic.

00:56:44.540 And like, look where we're at right now with all this AI stuff and robotics.

00:56:49.160 Whoa, whoa, whoa, Ryder, you're getting too ahead of the car.

00:56:51.140 Oh, sorry.

00:56:51.660 We've got to save something.

00:56:52.640 We've got to prime these people.

00:56:54.440 Look.

00:56:55.560 My fault.

00:56:56.180 My fault.

00:56:56.540 I just get excited because when people go down the same type of thing as me, then.

00:57:01.700 It's like, oh, I'm not like my line of thinking is not broken.

00:57:06.420 I'm not trying to say that I'm right.

00:57:07.880 I'm just trying to make sure that the path, you know, that I'm connecting at least has a logical like, yeah, I can see the logic from one thought to another thought.

00:57:16.220 But that's really what I'm trying to lay out here.

00:57:17.940 And I want to make another connection.

00:57:19.680 I think it's time to make that connection.

00:57:21.120 And it'll come into play later on.

00:57:23.120 But you, we mentioned earlier.

00:57:26.080 Actually, I don't want to.

00:57:26.820 I want to play a little bit game.

00:57:28.080 Ryder, do you know of another group of, let's say, children that are engaging in telepathy?

00:57:37.240 Do I know of another group?

00:57:41.460 Yeah, I know.

00:57:42.120 It's a weird, stupid question.

00:57:43.340 And you're probably not going to know where I'm going until after I say it.

00:57:46.380 And, you know, but there is another group of children.

00:57:49.120 Right.

00:57:49.520 So we have the children from the supposed Montauk project.

00:57:52.940 Right.

00:57:53.240 That's that's one group.

00:57:54.200 And then we have these nonverbal autistic children.

00:57:57.020 That's another group.

00:57:57.940 There's another one, maybe not as spoken about, but still huge within the conspiracy community.

00:58:03.780 And that is the black eyed children.

00:58:07.240 The hybrid children of alien greys.

00:58:11.140 Well, and I'm doing that in air quotes because I have obviously huge suspicions about what the hell those actually are.

00:58:16.860 The hybridized children of human women and these alien greys.

00:58:23.700 And what ends up happening is you hear these stories over and over again.

00:58:26.680 And I happen to think that they're true.

00:58:28.920 Women will experience an abduction phenomenon, alien abduction phenomenon, you know, paralysis.

00:58:35.480 They're being whisked away.

00:58:36.980 They're in a clinical setting.

00:58:38.280 There are greys at their side.

00:58:40.000 There's some sort of intrusive, you know, maybe medical intervention or something like that happening to them.

00:58:45.340 But it's it's very sexual in nature.

00:58:48.660 And then suddenly there will be a pregnancy.

00:58:51.000 And this is something that you hear a lot about, too, in the abduction phenomenon.

00:58:53.980 And it'll even be verified by their doctors that, yeah, you are, in fact, pregnant.

00:58:59.160 Then suddenly one day the pregnancy just vanishes.

00:59:02.280 And when they go back to the doctor, the doctor says, actually, it looks like you've never been pregnant, despite all of the previous information that confirmed that they were.

00:59:08.500 And then sometime in the future, they have another abduction experience.

00:59:13.540 But this time they are being introduced to children, children that feel like their own children.

00:59:20.640 In fact, some of them have children in real life and these children resemble them.

00:59:24.320 So they feel like they're there or they are theirs, you know, that that that's their offspring, but they don't communicate verbally.

00:59:32.300 They only communicate telepathically.

00:59:34.120 And they're really, really weird.

00:59:36.160 And so this is given the entire alien abduction.

00:59:43.120 Community, UAP community, this narrative that there seems to be a hybridization program, there's something about human genetics and and, you know, these perceived ETs or these perceived aliens.

00:59:53.120 And them trying to join one way or another, us with them.

00:59:57.400 And some people look at it, like, positively.

01:00:00.820 They're like, oh, you know, it's part of human ascension.

01:00:03.460 This is the next step and yada, yada, yada.

01:00:05.140 Some people look at it nefariously, obviously, because you're being forcibly taken and impregnated and then you have your children removed from you.

01:00:10.760 But that is an important aspect of this, I think, is these nonverbal, telepathic, black-eyed children, as they've been dubbed by the community.

01:00:19.940 And so earlier we brushed on this notion of, like, UFOs.

01:00:24.880 And that interplays with this entire thing.

01:00:27.080 Well, there's also another one that is less known, but it's kind of, like, mythical in a way.

01:00:35.800 And it was, it's called the Indian Lakes Project.

01:00:38.400 Have either of you ever heard of the Indian Lakes Project?

01:00:40.600 It was a blog that a guy started in the early 2000s where he supposedly, this guy's uncle found an old metal box where he was hiking in Indian Lakes, New York, and he put it on a shelf and didn't open it.

01:00:55.000 And then he passed away and his nephew found this box and opened it and supposedly had pictures in it and film reels of classified documents in this, of this project that was supposedly happening in Indian Lakes, New York, that had to do with experimentation on children ran by the military.

01:01:11.900 And supposedly, it was a military base that was kind of erased from existence there.

01:01:20.240 And within the box, it had pictures of, like, children behind bars and, like, all this really weird stuff.

01:01:26.020 And all this stuff was posted online.

01:01:28.500 And a few of the pictures were posted and some of the other.

01:01:33.400 But the film, the film that was supposedly in there was never shown.

01:01:37.200 And I don't really know what to think about it, right?

01:01:39.260 It's really strange.

01:01:40.520 It's a really weird mystery.

01:01:41.720 This was, like, back in the early days of the internet.

01:01:44.380 Like, this was, like, early 2000s.

01:01:46.320 Well, New York is really weird, right?

01:01:47.780 That's where we get, like, the whole lamb and Alistair Crowley doing the amelantra workings.

01:01:52.420 And then we, all of a sudden, he communicates with an entity that looks just like an alien gray.

01:01:56.260 And then from then on, we get the whole alien gray narrative.

01:01:59.280 New York is weird.

01:02:00.420 Very weird.

01:02:00.960 Yeah, and he got caught up with a few things in this blog post, too.

01:02:05.080 He started posting, like, stock images and stuff.

01:02:07.880 People think that he kind of got, like, co-opted or something or someone took over his blog or something was going on.

01:02:14.660 And then he just, like, all of a sudden just, like, stopped posting and, like, completely abandoned the site.

01:02:20.400 But you can find it online.

01:02:23.400 You would just type in Indian Lakes Project and you can read through some of the links and things.

01:02:29.120 But he was connecting this to, like, MKUltra.

01:02:31.760 He was connecting it to the Jim Jones whole thing, which he believed the Jim Jones thing was a huge giant MKUltra project.

01:02:42.000 So, yeah, that's another one to see.

01:02:44.360 I got it right now.

01:02:45.860 Indianlakeproject.blogspot.com.

01:02:48.040 If it's still up.

01:02:49.500 Yeah.

01:02:49.980 Yeah.

01:02:50.240 That's interesting stuff.

01:02:51.700 It's a very, very interesting one.

01:02:53.300 It's a really weird rabbit hole to go down.

01:02:56.220 But there hasn't been any proof that, other than what he's posted, that this facility existed.

01:03:02.800 And supposedly he also posted photos of this underground base that he found.

01:03:07.880 Now, again, you don't know if this stuff is real, if they're just playing some kind of early on ARG, augmented reality game type thing or whatever.

01:03:18.000 But it was pretty interesting.

01:03:19.180 He actually mapped out the entire base that he found.

01:03:23.400 He drew it out.

01:03:24.040 And then he said he eventually got to this door that just wouldn't open, that the door was just, like, sealed shut.

01:03:30.380 That's fascinating.

01:03:31.760 And he found these beds, like, these remnants of, like, beds and stuff down in this base.

01:03:36.820 Was it a tunnel?

01:03:38.820 Yeah.

01:03:39.280 Well, I mean, I've seen videos of that where people in upstate New York will end up, like, spelunking.

01:03:44.400 And then all of a sudden this cave thing opens up and there's, like, you know, like a tunnel system.

01:03:49.200 And it's clearly man-made.

01:03:51.040 And then, yeah, it ends up at, like, either a door they won't go through or can't go through or whatever.

01:03:56.080 I wouldn't be surprised if upstate New York is riddled with all kinds of underground military bases that have maybe been abandoned.

01:04:02.520 Maybe some of them haven't.

01:04:03.760 The tunnel system thing is interesting because that might have actually,

01:04:06.820 I know I keep saying, like, this is what put us on to him.

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01:04:37.300 It might be the tunnel phenomenon.

01:04:42.580 We're big Tony Merkel fans of the confessional.

01:04:45.860 If you guys enjoy, like, what we're doing now is not exactly typical of Tim Fullhead.

01:04:52.120 That's more like your field of study.

01:04:54.280 There's a lot of other guys that do really great work around MKUltra.

01:04:57.120 But Nephilim Death Squad generally focuses on the supernatural through the biblical lens and also some current topics.

01:05:05.020 So what we were looking at was this idea of these entities that were recruiting people.

01:05:12.160 And we're actually working on a documentary that will probably be filmed at our upcoming event, Bohemian Grove.

01:05:17.560 It's going to be sometime in June.

01:05:19.100 Leesburg, Florida.

01:05:19.760 Look out for that.

01:05:20.420 It's going to be a lot of fun.

01:05:21.420 So it's a story that comes from Tony Merkel's show, The Confessionals.

01:05:27.580 And we also have one of our people that was on The Confessionals afterward, this guy Colin, that was approached by an entity.

01:05:34.760 And it asked it to basically work for him.

01:05:38.680 And there's surgeries performed in some alternate realm or some interdimensional realm.

01:05:44.080 But this stuff kind of, like, takes place in a cave.

01:05:46.660 So we're listening to, I'm listening to Merkel's show, and he has a documentarian that's talking about, he's talking about Skinwalker Ranch.

01:05:57.320 And then he just mentions, you know, I'm also working on something else.

01:06:00.220 It's this idea of the nine.

01:06:02.560 And there are these nine ancient entities that will, they're of antiquity.

01:06:10.060 And there's many stories about them recruiting people to work for them, them contacting people.

01:06:16.620 So this guy is doing, I forget his name all the time, but he's doing this documentary on that.

01:06:20.560 And that fascinated us because we're like, all right, this is really interesting, right up our alley.

01:06:24.300 So start to look into it.

01:06:25.880 Guess who we find?

01:06:27.580 Give you one guess, Ryder.

01:06:29.020 Who do we find?

01:06:29.800 The porridge guy.

01:06:30.640 The porridge guy.

01:06:31.780 That's it.

01:06:32.360 That's it.

01:06:33.040 Andrzeja Pujaric.

01:06:34.700 Yeah.

01:06:35.220 Once again.

01:06:35.920 So bring it right back home.

01:06:39.100 In the 1950s, he meets this guy, Dr. D.G. Vinod.

01:06:44.780 He's an Indian street food vendor.

01:06:49.020 No, he's an Indian mystic guy.

01:06:51.400 He probably has put his foot in some food at some point.

01:06:55.240 So they're hanging out.

01:06:56.860 And what do you do when you hang out with your mystic buddies?

01:06:59.580 You just start to channel entities.

01:07:01.380 So that's what they do.

01:07:02.820 This is in the 50s, right when all this stuff pops off.

01:07:06.240 They channel an entity.

01:07:07.700 It's a timeless entity.

01:07:10.340 And it starts to speak as one, but it claims that it is nine.

01:07:16.340 Right.

01:07:16.500 That there are.

01:07:17.340 It is all of them.

01:07:19.200 It is all of these things.

01:07:21.040 And then it identifies itself as the Egyptian Eniad.

01:07:25.500 Well, it doesn't quite outright do that, right?

01:07:27.620 It just tells him his names.

01:07:29.260 Yeah.

01:07:29.980 Yeah.

01:07:30.300 And then it's like, okay, that's the exact name of the Egyptian Eniad.

01:07:33.940 Atom, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephethus.

01:07:39.220 And it's like, yeah, that's the Egyptian Eniad.

01:07:40.900 These are the nine that it's claiming to be.

01:07:43.980 So they're channeling this thing, which again, this gets into like really crazy, crazy shit.

01:07:49.740 Because like this guy's from, he's doing these really physical things with like tooth implants.

01:07:54.300 And now he's doing this channel an event.

01:07:58.140 By the way, these entities who have like a, they do have a message for him.

01:08:03.480 And this message is another one of these things that's going to pop up over and over again.

01:08:07.240 Mostly it's about a potential coming calamity that has to be avoided.

01:08:12.300 It's an earth related, climate related catastrophe that mankind has to avoid at all costs.

01:08:19.780 And I think it even goes on to say if we can, then also we would ascend in very many ways.

01:08:25.960 And it's worth noting here that although that is the message of the Eniad, the Egyptian Eniad,

01:08:33.460 it is the exact same message as like the Galactic Federation of Light.

01:08:38.340 All of these conglomerations of like ETs, right, that are interacting with us.

01:08:44.740 And they're trying to get us to avoid a calamity.

01:08:47.340 Now that calamity goes one of two ways.

01:08:49.680 It's either mutually assured self-destruction via nuclear bombs.

01:08:53.580 Or it is a climate related catastrophe that we have to avoid.

01:08:59.200 But also on the other side of that is ascension of some sort.

01:09:03.340 We get to ascend and we get to take our place among our kind of galactic homies, right?

01:09:08.680 Representatives from all these different races that oversee the galaxy.

01:09:12.060 And it's time for human beings to take their place.

01:09:14.240 So this message of please watch out for the big calamity and it's time to ascend

01:09:19.780 turns up over and over and over again throughout this narrative.

01:09:23.580 Well, because ascension happens after death.

01:09:28.040 That's why they say, that's why they're wrapping in this giant cataclysm with ascension.

01:09:34.080 Because ascension is an after-death ascension.

01:09:37.520 Well, this theme goes to a really weird place.

01:09:44.500 And I think is actually the, what does it all mean?

01:09:49.480 There is a political narrative here as well, because the theme of this is environmentalism.

01:09:56.700 And this is also kind of funny when you talk to those autistic kids or when they type to you,

01:10:01.040 they're like real concern.

01:10:03.020 Like, how's mommy doing?

01:10:04.500 Is she going to the store?

01:10:06.120 Am I talking to my friends on the hill?

01:10:08.060 Also, we've got to be really careful with the environment.

01:10:11.480 We've got to like, and I'm not saying to litter and do all this stuff.

01:10:14.820 I'm not saying that, but when they, when these political environmentalists tell you,

01:10:20.280 we've got to be careful with the environment, all of their suggestions are detrimental to

01:10:25.800 the human condition.

01:10:26.620 And they end up in death, destruction, poverty, famine.

01:10:32.120 You name it.

01:10:33.220 And I mean, you're in California, so like half of your, half of your state is on fire

01:10:37.520 every year because these idiots don't go and clean up the dead wood in the forest, which

01:10:41.920 is susceptible to any kind of spark.

01:10:43.860 This is environmentalism.

01:10:45.320 And it honestly, after a bunch of years of watching and I'm like, this is purposeful.

01:10:50.160 You guys, what, you know what else is environmentalism, Ryder?

01:10:53.420 Abortion.

01:10:54.000 Because there's too many people.

01:10:55.280 It's like, so give your kids to Moloch.

01:10:57.000 Like this is, this is a theme that's constantly coming up.

01:10:59.340 And now you're telling me Ascension is related to death.

01:11:02.200 It's like, yeah, dude, this whole thing's a death cult.

01:11:05.480 You know what I'd be interested in knowing, Top?

01:11:07.380 I don't know if you can find this.

01:11:09.200 When did they start digging on deep underground military bases?

01:11:12.620 Oh, I don't know.

01:11:13.760 70s maybe?

01:11:14.920 If there is a big, I do believe that they're onto something.

01:11:18.600 I'm not saying that they're wrong.

01:11:19.700 Now I recognize on the political level, it just becomes like Top said, something, whatever

01:11:23.240 they're going to enforce to avoid this thing is just to the detriment of the people.

01:11:26.720 But at the same time, they are digging these deep underground military bases.

01:11:32.160 And it's like to avoid what?

01:11:33.680 Obviously, it's contingency in the event of a big catastrophe.

01:11:38.200 So maybe we'll just put that on the side burner for now.

01:11:41.880 They began construction on some of these, well, the ones in Colorado, which I guess were the

01:11:46.380 first ones in 1961.

01:11:48.640 Okay.

01:11:49.320 So that's all right.

01:11:50.460 I figure it takes a little time for the legislation to kick in.

01:11:53.700 You know what's really interesting, too, speaking of like cataclysms and stuff, this Adam and

01:11:58.680 Eve document that was released by the CIA basically says that a giant catastrophe is going to happen

01:12:07.060 and the only place that you can be saved is if you're like in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado.

01:12:13.000 I know of a guy that has another theory and we'll end up talking about him, but I hear Mars

01:12:16.720 might be a good place to be.

01:12:17.960 So, Elon, but isn't it so interesting, guys, that the aliens are always concerned with the

01:12:24.580 things that we're concerned about?

01:12:26.360 So when I told you earlier that the Nazis almost had it, but we had to be inundated with a certain

01:12:31.900 narrative.

01:12:32.420 Well, that narrative, I think, was deployed around the exact same time in the form of NASA,

01:12:38.020 right?

01:12:38.320 Wernher von Braun.

01:12:39.100 We take him from, you know, Operation Paperclip and he is the basis for all of NASA, which,

01:12:46.060 by the way, is riddled in occult esoteric symbolism and everything that they do is like,

01:12:52.040 you know, sort of a hidden hand.

01:12:54.020 And you have Jack Parsons and Alistair Crowley and L. Ron Hubbard, who are all tangentially

01:12:59.320 10.

01:12:59.820 I'm just making up words again, who are all connected, keep going, who are all connected to,

01:13:05.380 right?

01:13:05.680 Because Jack Parsons works for Jet Propulsion Laboratories, which is a subcompany that NASA

01:13:11.520 contracts.

01:13:12.340 And he is obsessed with Alistair Crowley, apparently even to the extent where he goes so far, Alistair

01:13:16.960 Crowley, like, disavows.

01:13:18.780 And then, of course, L. Ron Hubbard is in the desert.

01:13:21.440 Quick aside, NASA provided an $80,000 grant for experiments involving Yuri Geller, these experiments.

01:13:30.280 Yeah, so he's receiving funding directly from these guys because he's the guy that is, I

01:13:36.580 don't really understand the relationship between him and Yuri Geller.

01:13:39.340 It seems like, on the outside, it seemed like consensual.

01:13:43.300 But when you kind of look more into it, it looks like he was just this dude's handler

01:13:46.660 and, like, doing messed up stuff to him, like, just experimenting on him.

01:13:51.240 It seemed like Yuri wanted out.

01:13:52.940 I do want to go to a bit of an accusatory place now.

01:13:57.620 And I don't know how much we're going to kick this ball around, but I find it fascinating

01:14:02.420 that the telepathy tapes has blown up in the way that it has.

01:14:07.940 And like we said earlier, it's mentioned by Joe Rogan.

01:14:12.120 And, of course, anything that Joe Rogan does becomes hugely viral, not just in the sense

01:14:17.640 of public awareness, but in the sense of, like, industry that becomes built around it.

01:14:21.980 And we'll talk about that in a second.

01:14:23.060 But Joe Rogan is the number one podcast in the world for the longest time, almost as

01:14:28.540 long as podcasts have been a thing.

01:14:30.040 Joe Rogan has secured the number one spot.

01:14:33.120 And from the first time that I can see, he is knocked out of that position.

01:14:39.860 And who takes that position but the telepathy tapes after he blows them up.

01:14:44.360 Now, given that we've just established there seems to be, you know, and this is highly speculative,

01:14:49.300 and I'll do the speculating here, but there seems to be a connection between the MKUltra

01:14:53.860 program or at least the nature of the MKUltra program and the nature of this medical interventions

01:15:00.800 that we give to children of a schedule that reaches like 60-some-odd interventions just

01:15:06.660 because of the results, the fruits that it bears, right?

01:15:09.440 So that's strange to me.

01:15:11.080 But what else is strange to me is that Rogan also popularized sensory deprivation tanks.

01:15:18.500 And sensory deprivation tanks, I mean, we're talking John C. Lilly, right?

01:15:21.880 He's telepathically communicating with dolphins.

01:15:24.940 It's my understanding the MKUltra program takes a huge interest in his research and envelops

01:15:29.920 a lot of what he's working on into their studies or their pursuits, right?

01:15:34.560 I'm pretty sure he was drugging the dolphins, too.

01:15:36.800 I think he was giving the dolphins LSD.

01:15:38.580 Jerking them off, or I'm sorry, his assistant was jerking them off.

01:15:43.140 His assistant was jerking them off.

01:15:44.280 He didn't jerk them off.

01:15:45.180 He would never jerk them off.

01:15:47.300 But then what else does he do?

01:15:48.840 He also popularizes dimethyltryptamine and mushrooms, right?

01:15:53.240 And now we know here in Conspiracyville how intimately connected psychedelics are to the MKUltra

01:16:00.860 research, right?

01:16:01.640 So he creates essentially a never-ending string of white people going to the Amazon to go

01:16:08.020 drink vine juice.

01:16:09.000 I mean, it just never, like, it never stops.

01:16:11.120 It's like white chicks with dreadlocks.

01:16:13.560 What's that?

01:16:14.140 In 1959, Andreeja Poharish wrote a book called The Sacred Mushroom, The Key to the Door of Eternity.

01:16:20.360 1959.

01:16:21.160 But please continue.

01:16:21.720 So what Rogan seems to be doing here is he's almost stripping the spirituality away from

01:16:30.480 these practices, and he is repackaging them as things that are beneficial for your psychology,

01:16:36.500 right?

01:16:36.680 Because now we've entered a realm where psychedelics are no longer used for the exploration of

01:16:40.340 the psyche, and you're not doing a, you know, a psychonaut thing.

01:16:43.420 You're not interacting with entities.

01:16:44.640 I mean, you are, but that's not the focal point.

01:16:46.580 The focal point is, like, well, I mean, it's great for soldiers who come back with PTSD.

01:16:52.140 It actually does a number on, like, depression and things like that.

01:16:54.940 Let me tell you something.

01:16:55.800 A ketamine trip in a clinical environment is really good for your psychology, right?

01:16:59.620 So that is much more the angle that we're using now to shoehorn these things into the

01:17:04.860 public.

01:17:05.240 What I would say is Rogan is striking me as, like, the new Laurel Canyon, right?

01:17:09.260 Because they did the same thing.

01:17:10.940 They created the doors.

01:17:12.640 They created Jim Morrison.

01:17:13.900 They hijacked the anti-war movement.

01:17:15.780 And I think they created the psychedelic movement here in the United States.

01:17:19.680 And now, it's the same thing.

01:17:22.680 The new psychedelic movement in the United States is spearheaded by the Joe Rogan experience,

01:17:28.900 who, for some odd reason, keeps advocating things that, like, I don't know, the MKUltra

01:17:34.460 program really likes.

01:17:35.960 And that is very fucking strange.

01:17:38.160 I mean, very strange.

01:17:39.260 Yeah.

01:17:39.680 Somebody in the chat said Rogan is the new Terrence McKenna.

01:17:43.100 I mean, popularizing Terrence McKenna is a wild thing just because his research doesn't

01:17:48.720 just stop it.

01:17:49.300 I forget what it is.

01:17:50.100 I was reading about Terrence McKenna recently, and I was like, I had no fucking idea.

01:17:53.960 I think he was, like, best friends with Puharich.

01:17:55.400 No, I don't know what it was.

01:17:56.440 But it was something, like, huge and connecting like that where I was like, I can't believe

01:18:00.420 that this guy also brought us Terrence McKenna.

01:18:03.600 Not brought us.

01:18:04.240 Obviously, he's a staple within this Psychonaut community, but he made him mainstream.

01:18:09.560 So a lot of what Rogan is doing, and then, of course, you know, whatever he's doing with

01:18:14.200 Ian Carroll recently where he blows up the telepathy tapes again.

01:18:18.820 So to me, I'm looking around, and I'm like, we're being funneled into this narrative.

01:18:24.860 And there's an ideology, not an ideology, but a hot take that they would like us to take.

01:18:30.380 And this is something that you see getting espoused a lot.

01:18:33.440 And that thing is light speculation as to whether or not autism and, like, things of

01:18:42.580 that nature are the next step in human development.

01:18:47.640 Have you been hearing that narrative?

01:18:49.080 Because I have been hearing that narrative.

01:18:50.920 In fact, it sort of came up on Top's other show, Tower Gang.

01:18:57.040 And what happens is the other guys are not keyed into this idea.

01:19:01.600 It's a show of five people, Top being one of them.

01:19:04.580 Top brings up the telepathy tapes.

01:19:06.160 And then, like, parrots, the rest of the four co-hosts all say, yeah, I don't know, man.

01:19:10.600 I kind of think that, like, autism is, like, the next step in human evolution.

01:19:14.520 And they all say it.

01:19:15.860 So I don't know who's embedding that part of the narrative in here.

01:19:20.280 But how could it be the next step in human evolution if it's birthed out of disassociation

01:19:25.480 and trauma?

01:19:27.040 I don't think that it's the next step in human evolution.

01:19:30.580 In fact, I think it's something that we can all do.

01:19:33.400 Like I said, it's just been removed from us.

01:19:36.640 And the narrative that they needed to be put in place, like I said, NASA, I was talking

01:19:41.960 about NASA before because we said that the Nazis weren't quite there yet.

01:19:46.120 We needed a narrative that we were all going to, you know, agree to be under.

01:19:49.920 And that was the alien narrative, right?

01:19:52.580 I think that UFO, UAP disclosure narrative that's been given to us by NASA, that's been

01:19:58.360 given to us by Hollywood more so than any other industry in America, Hollywood has fleshed

01:20:04.980 out basically our belief system when it comes to aliens.

01:20:08.120 And I think we kind of needed that because I think these things are going to play together

01:20:12.900 pretty intimately in the near future, especially given that we just had like the second ever

01:20:18.920 congressional hearing on UAPs and all of this stuff.

01:20:22.800 Which was a complete shit show, dude.

01:20:24.560 That was a disaster.

01:20:26.020 Both of those congressional hearings were garbage dumpster fires.

01:20:29.900 But the only thing that I'm, in order to legalize a drug that has been illegal, you

01:20:35.880 would have to use it for medical purposes first.

01:20:38.760 I mean, that's how weed, marijuana, ganja was legalized recreationally was through medical

01:20:47.660 purposes first.

01:20:48.680 Now, and I'm not saying that some psychedelics can't be beneficial for some people, not for

01:20:55.440 me.

01:20:56.680 Like, I'm not going to listen to Joe Rogan when he says, go do some shrooms or go do

01:21:01.660 DMT or whatever.

01:21:03.080 That's not what I'm going to do because that's not my thing, you know?

01:21:08.040 And I think that what he may be trying to do is like, look at a way to like, get Congress

01:21:16.180 to sort of legalize it.

01:21:17.740 So then it becomes recreationally valuable because, you know, illegal drugs have been

01:21:23.100 like the backbone of like the government.

01:21:26.440 Like they literally make all of their money from illegal drugs, like black budget, illegal

01:21:32.220 funds come from illegal drugs.

01:21:34.300 So if you're wanting to try and clean that up and maybe clean up some of the deaths that

01:21:38.520 are associated with like fentanyl and heroin use and stuff like that, which is out of hand,

01:21:45.620 it's ridiculous.

01:21:46.600 More people die.

01:21:47.300 Probably done by our own government, right?

01:21:48.680 Exactly.

01:21:49.480 Opioid epidemic starts while we're in Afghanistan securing 90% of the world's opium fields.

01:21:53.900 Yep.

01:21:54.480 Securing all the freaking opium fields.

01:21:56.520 It's unbelievable.

01:21:57.180 So maybe it's not as, as nefarious as it kind of seems.

01:22:02.860 Maybe it's a way to like get in the door of making some drugs legal for medical purposes.

01:22:08.940 And then later on it becomes, because look at what happened with like prohibition and getting

01:22:14.620 rid of alcohol, right?

01:22:15.880 Like that made everything 10 times worse.

01:22:18.420 And then when they re-legalized it, it's like, but if we were to make alcohol illegal right

01:22:22.940 now, like, let's just say we put a ban on alcohol and made it illegal for anyone to have

01:22:27.760 or own or drink, or you're going to go to prison, like the amount of deaths and the amount of

01:22:34.460 bullshit that's going to happen because of the fact that you made alcohol illegal is going to be

01:22:40.400 astronomical.

01:22:41.760 Right.

01:22:43.500 Well, fun fact, my old house was actually a speakeasy.

01:22:47.000 Uh, it was like a, there was a basement and, uh, well, before we moved in, there was a big

01:22:51.480 like wooden desk and they would just do moonshine down there and everyone from the neighborhood

01:22:56.600 would drink during prohibition.

01:22:58.740 So it doesn't, yeah, it doesn't work.

01:23:01.360 Um, I'm not sure that, uh, like they really care about legalization.

01:23:06.580 I think cause you know, LSD was also a government creation and they're not worried about legalizing

01:23:11.180 that they're worried about inserting that into the culture and they've done a great, you

01:23:15.640 can go to Walmart right now and buy a hoodie with a bunch of psychedelic mushrooms on them

01:23:19.520 and their children's sized weed leaves all over them socks with weed leaves over it.

01:23:24.600 Can we, if there's one thing we can get rid of about the entire culture of marijuana socks,

01:23:29.500 like knee high socks with weed leaves on them have to go.

01:23:32.620 I'm done with those.

01:23:33.600 They have to be removed from the culture.

01:23:35.200 A hundred percent purged, burned, actually bought outside of Walmart and burned.

01:23:39.500 What about people with weed leaf tattoos, bro?

01:23:43.540 What do we want to do about that?

01:23:44.380 Such a regrettable thing.

01:23:45.520 I don't know what's worse.

01:23:46.460 It's either the guys with the weed leaf tattoos or the guys with the nightmare before Christmas

01:23:49.660 tattoos, but they need to get together and they need to have a war and whoever wins gets

01:23:53.780 to stick around and the other ones have to go.

01:23:55.560 That's, that's my opinion.

01:23:56.780 That's fair.

01:23:57.640 That's fair.

01:23:58.180 I think that that's fair.

01:23:59.540 Um, all right.

01:24:00.580 So now we're going to bring this into kind of a place of like, we've already established

01:24:05.580 that there seems to be some connection, especially in the way of the narrative, right?

01:24:09.320 Between, I mean, we, we were still on the nine, uh, the importance of this idea, the

01:24:15.440 nine, which is like, it almost seems trivial, trivial at this point.

01:24:19.220 Um, but it was something that really like, we're like, wow, look at this.

01:24:22.200 Cause across, uh, across cultures and throughout history, there are always this, there's always

01:24:29.200 this mention of nine, the Greek mythology talks about the nine muses, um, Norse mythology

01:24:35.040 has nine worlds and they have these specific type of, uh, characteristics of them, which

01:24:40.580 all match the Egyptian Inead.

01:24:42.740 Chinese mythology has the nine dragons, Hindu mythology, the, the Nav, Nav, Navagra is nine

01:24:49.800 celestial bodies, the sun, the moon, Mars, all the shit like this.

01:24:53.440 Mesoamerican mythology has the nine Lords of the night.

01:24:56.220 And even Satanism has a council of nine when they established their church.

01:25:00.920 This is like Levain Satanism in the establishment of that church.

01:25:04.180 There is a council of nine.

01:25:05.180 And then you have like your head wizard or priest or whatever the hell, but this idea,

01:25:09.800 the number of nine and the structure of, uh, this sort of governance happens throughout

01:25:16.140 history and across cultures.

01:25:18.100 So I thought that that was important because you could doubt his work.

01:25:21.780 A lot of the things that he's doing, especially with the channeling.

01:25:24.780 Um, but he did it for 20 years from the fifties to the seventies.

01:25:28.960 He got people involved in it.

01:25:30.760 Uh, they're like, I mean, artists, sci-fi writers involved with this famous channelers.

01:25:36.400 I'm sure if I pulled up the list, you'd know some of these people's names.

01:25:38.920 Cause you, you've delved pretty deep into this project.

01:25:41.240 Like, so he was doing this and I don't like, again, I don't know, you speak to something

01:25:47.340 for 20 years and all it tells you is about the environment.

01:25:50.760 I'm not, I don't think so.

01:25:52.740 I think that there was more said and we're just not going to be privy to whatever was

01:25:56.680 going on.

01:25:57.120 But what we do know is that out of this, we get the development or we get the, uh, the

01:26:03.300 implementation and creation of project Stargate.

01:26:05.620 And I, you probably know more about this than us because I thought that project Stargate

01:26:10.200 was a CIA operation, but it's a DIA operation.

01:26:14.560 DIA army intelligence.

01:26:15.940 Yes.

01:26:16.440 That's it's very convoluted and very confusing.

01:26:20.220 Actually, if you guys would like to have me on your show, I have like, I've mapped all

01:26:24.320 this out.

01:26:24.800 I know all the history of when it started, how it started and like where it ended up.

01:26:29.980 Hell yeah.

01:26:30.460 That's a great idea.

01:26:31.000 But it's like a, it would take like an hour, hour and a half.

01:26:33.860 We don't have that kind of time here, but yeah, it's a DIA army intelligence, but it's

01:26:40.880 switched names.

01:26:41.900 It's gone under several different names, Sunstreak, uh, grill flame syndicate.

01:26:47.420 Well, syndicate was the SRI, uh, program, which was funded by the government to study, um, like

01:26:55.940 psychic phenomenon.

01:26:57.080 Yeah.

01:26:57.280 Cause they do a great job of, uh, imposing a disassociative disorder.

01:27:00.800 And that's another thing that I thought was really interesting because most, well, I can't

01:27:07.660 say most, but some of the remote viewers that were involved had some sort of traumatic experience

01:27:16.860 happened to them whenever they were younger or they had a near death experience.

01:27:20.780 Um, there you go.

01:27:22.080 Okay.

01:27:22.460 Uh, L Ron Hubbard style.

01:27:24.320 Exactly.

01:27:24.920 So Ingo Swan was, uh, often said he was, he's widely considered as one of the best remote

01:27:32.680 viewers to ever exist next to Pat Price.

01:27:37.120 But he said that whenever he was growing up, he was bullied a lot for being gay, which I don't

01:27:44.280 care if you're gay, be gay if you want to be gay, but that's what he was bullied for.

01:27:47.800 And it would create these out of body experiences for him.

01:27:51.220 So do you, he would essentially be going out of his body all the time.

01:27:55.660 And like, I was like, okay, well, that's interesting.

01:27:58.680 And then I was like, well, let's look at all these other psychics and these other people

01:28:02.300 that are claiming to be remote viewers.

01:28:03.620 And a lot of them have had something similar happen to them, some sort of traumatic event

01:28:08.980 whenever they were younger, some sort of out of body experience or a near death experience.

01:28:12.980 And I'm like, that's not a coincidence.

01:28:15.020 You know, Ryder, it's worth mentioning too, that, um, uh, Rogan is a big proponent of ice

01:28:19.260 baths.

01:28:19.800 And I literally, the way you get through an ice bath is to dissociate, disassociate with

01:28:24.860 your physical form because it's your body that's going through all this pain.

01:28:27.400 So you have to like, kind of get, you know, beyond that so that you're, you're beyond the

01:28:32.460 physical.

01:28:32.760 I just think even that is like a light form of it.

01:28:35.620 But, but all of those, um, patterns emerged throughout this whole thing, right?

01:28:39.240 It's, uh, some sort of childhood trauma or a near death experience, but, but really that

01:28:44.340 great connective tissue to, to pinpoint it is the disassociative identity disorder.

01:28:49.400 That is like the key component to all of this shit.

01:28:52.020 Um, it's why, I think that's why they use, uh, like sex, sex and, uh, different sexual rituals

01:28:58.160 to do this.

01:28:58.680 So, uh, in, within this, uh, project Stargate, Carla Ruckert, Ruckert was one of the people

01:29:05.020 that was used to do the channeling.

01:29:06.540 Um, she channeled the entity named Ra, which came and told it the same shit that, uh, everybody

01:29:12.500 else here is from these entities, uh, something about the environment, but she was using, uh,

01:29:17.000 like, I think she was using a Ouija board as well.

01:29:19.380 Um, one of the techniques she would use to summon this thing was, uh, the sexual ritual,

01:29:23.260 which I think they might've gotten a little like overboard.

01:29:27.060 I don't, I don't understand specifically why they're doing, uh, sexual rituals, but they

01:29:32.660 always seem to like go get out of hand, like to the, like the point of abuse.

01:29:36.920 It's never just like regular stuff.

01:29:39.200 It's like, I think it's two, twofold.

01:29:40.700 One is there's a massive energetic exchange between you and the other person when you were

01:29:44.580 engaged in intercourse.

01:29:45.420 But the other thing is if this is like in a negative light, right, if this is abusive

01:29:50.380 and all that other shit, you disassociate.

01:29:53.100 Um, yeah, I think that that's what was going on.

01:29:56.360 Um, her partner, uh, Don Elkins ended up, uh, committing suicide, uh, shortly after this

01:30:04.040 and, uh, like maybe 10 years after all of their research there, you kind of went crazy

01:30:07.580 CIA surveillance, shit like that.

01:30:09.720 And they go crazy with schizophrenia, by the way, which is like inundated by entities is,

01:30:14.960 is much better a way to describe that, you know, at least that's my opinion.

01:30:20.480 But, um, just to kind of let a little bit of the cat out of the bag, because there's,

01:30:24.580 you know, we're looking at this big, like UFO phenomenon.

01:30:26.440 And I think it's important for your audience to know where we're coming from on UFOs or on

01:30:32.340 aliens.

01:30:33.340 Um, I think what's actually happening here is we've, we're experiencing one hell of a

01:30:38.500 rebranding, uh, in the sense that the greys themselves, I don't believe are an independent

01:30:45.720 entity as much as they're a form of like biomechanical technology.

01:30:49.700 They don't have sexual reproductive organs.

01:30:51.840 They don't have like an emotional range whatsoever.

01:30:53.960 They're just kind of like automatons, but they do seem to have a biological sense to them.

01:30:58.080 They have a smell that smells like rotting sulfur or rotting flesh and sulfur.

01:31:02.620 Um, I think what we're experiencing there is somebody's technology that somebody, uh, I think

01:31:08.620 are actually, that's, it's an amalgamation of thing.

01:31:11.360 I think they're, they're spiritual entities.

01:31:12.940 Um, I think some of them are physical, but all of them in my estimation are, are biblical

01:31:18.180 in nature.

01:31:18.720 And that's why they flee at the name of Jesus Christ among other things.

01:31:22.020 But I think what we had here was, you know, this, uh, this Greek pantheon or the Egyptian

01:31:27.280 pantheon, the Inead, uh, on our show, we tend to look at conspiracy through the Christian

01:31:31.740 view, but we do believe that these entities exist, which is a little bit different from

01:31:35.960 your typical Christian, because a lot of Christians will just say like, that's not true, or this

01:31:40.500 is demonic.

01:31:41.200 And I would say like, no, that is true.

01:31:43.200 You had a whole pantheon of gods that you worship, lowercase g gods.

01:31:47.060 They are the one third of angels that were cast out of heaven after rebelling against

01:31:50.760 God.

01:31:51.100 And they took themselves and placed themselves as our gods here on earth.

01:31:54.820 And they did something very specific, by the way, they're always attributed to innovations

01:32:02.020 in technology.

01:32:02.880 And those technologies start off pretty rudimentary at first.

01:32:05.600 It's like, you know, as Azazel is responsible for giving people like metallurgy and teaching

01:32:10.820 women like makeup and all this other shit.

01:32:12.880 Um, another God is responsible for bringing them agriculture.

01:32:16.220 So, so what this is, is it's like, there seems to be this effort over time, a really long

01:32:21.920 game, by the way, where they are trying to get human beings technologically advanced.

01:32:27.560 And you would ask, well, why, why would they be trying to get human beings technologically

01:32:31.560 advanced?

01:32:32.040 Uh, if they're the bad guys, right, that seems like a good thing.

01:32:35.140 I think that number one, their offspring being the Nephilim, when they die, their, uh, spirits,

01:32:42.040 they, they don't really go anywhere.

01:32:43.620 They're just kind of trapped in this parallel dimension.

01:32:45.680 Those are a bulk of the entities that people are encountering.

01:32:49.620 Uh, it's what we would call demons.

01:32:52.180 And, uh, I think that even the fallen, you know, some of them are, the Bible talks about

01:32:57.440 being locked in Tartarus, which is another terminology that you'll hear in Greek mythology

01:33:02.260 too, about the Titans being locked in Tartarus.

01:33:04.480 I think that they can influence us.

01:33:07.900 They can nudge us much like, um, Al Capone who still ran everything while he was in prison.

01:33:13.500 It's kind of like that where they can nudge us and they can interact with us on a spiritual

01:33:18.180 realm, but they can't interact with us in a physical way yet.

01:33:21.820 We could bridge that gap feasibly.

01:33:24.380 So one of the examples that I like to use is my son watches, uh, Ninja Turtles.

01:33:30.420 And one of the themes of their movies was Donatello is the Ninja Turtle who's all about

01:33:34.520 technology.

01:33:35.280 Some way, shape or form, he becomes aware that there's a disembodied voice talking to

01:33:39.460 him.

01:33:39.660 And this disembodied voice basically says, Hey, we are trapped in this alternate dimension

01:33:44.200 and we need your help in order.

01:33:46.360 We've been imprisoned here forever.

01:33:47.980 Um, and we need your help to like free us.

01:33:49.780 He does end up freeing them.

01:33:52.040 And what emerges from this dimensional gateway is like this ancient adversarial monster,

01:33:56.760 right?

01:33:57.300 So he essentially brings them into this realm.

01:33:59.120 I think that that's likely what CERN is or all this concern about, uh, opening portals

01:34:06.640 with technology and things like that.

01:34:08.140 I think that they had to get us to a certain point.

01:34:11.800 And that's why these things are always so tied together, right?

01:34:15.560 That's why you have like a Jack Parsons who's obsessed with finishing Alistair Crowley's

01:34:20.920 Babylon workings in the middle of the desert, trying to bring an entity into this realm.

01:34:25.820 But he's also the, the, the father of modern day jet propulsion that we still use to this

01:34:32.700 day, by the way.

01:34:33.340 So this guy is a rocket scientist, but he's obsessed with Alistair Crowley's occult workings.

01:34:40.020 And he's trying to bring in an entity into this realm.

01:34:43.120 That shit never stops.

01:34:45.180 This unholy union of like technology and spirituality is a pattern that constantly pokes its nasty

01:34:51.540 head.

01:34:52.040 And I think it's because that's the point they're trying to get us to, it's the same

01:34:56.760 reason why you have like, um, like a Ouija board, right?

01:35:00.700 And it's, and, and, and Mattel or Hasbro, whoever the hell makes the Ouija board.

01:35:04.600 It's just a wooden Ouija board with a planchette and some numbers and letters carved into it

01:35:08.480 all the way to 2025, where now the new Ouija board is a app that incorporates artificial

01:35:14.740 intelligence.

01:35:15.560 It's, it's just degrees of technological advancement that strengthen our ability to communicate

01:35:21.700 with them and then ideally bring them into this realm one day.

01:35:25.180 But we would have never fallen for that.

01:35:27.500 If you didn't strip us of our spirituality, repackage these entities and give us this new

01:35:34.700 version through Hollywood, which is benign space homies who are like technologically advanced

01:35:41.740 and don't want us to destroy ourselves in mutually assured nuclear destruction.

01:35:46.500 The galactic federation baby out there patrolling, making sure we're safe.

01:35:50.960 It's so interesting how the aliens are always concerned with the exact same things that

01:35:56.740 we're concerned with, you know, like during the cold war, it was nuclear war.

01:36:01.120 Well, all the people that were channeling entities at that time were telling us to put down our

01:36:05.140 nuclear weapons.

01:36:06.080 Oh, well, when it's the environment like it is now, now everyone's saying you got to keep,

01:36:10.700 you got to clean up your environment, right?

01:36:12.500 When it's world war three, they'll be like, you guys need peace.

01:36:16.440 Right.

01:36:17.000 You know, it doesn't make any sense to me.

01:36:18.960 It never made any sense to me.

01:36:20.220 Why are they concerned with the exact same things that we fear on a human global scale?

01:36:26.600 Because they're, they're getting ready to present them as our saviors.

01:36:29.680 And then to go a step further, they're getting ready to present them as our creators, or at

01:36:34.820 least those who intervene.

01:36:36.140 So it's like a rehashing of like the Anunnaki, Zachariah Sitchin, kind of like Sumerian text

01:36:40.460 thing where, you know, the Anunnaki needed a good gold miners.

01:36:45.600 We needed, we needed to create, uh, because they're having a dwindling atmospheric issue where

01:36:50.200 now their son is interacting with their home planet in a negative way.

01:36:52.980 The only way to stop that is to suspend gold in your atmosphere for whatever reason.

01:36:58.260 And a great way to do that is to go and take this soft monkey species and turn them into

01:37:04.620 what?

01:37:05.240 These kind of hairless things that bitch and moan about how the small of their back hurts

01:37:10.400 and they need a water break and they always have to go to the bathroom.

01:37:13.880 And even though they're on the clock, they've been in the bathroom for like a half an hour.

01:37:17.620 Like it doesn't make any sense that you would pick us to mine your gold.

01:37:21.420 If you're this super advanced tech, you know, technological species that I don't know,

01:37:25.560 might be able to make a machine that doesn't bitch and moan to harvest your gold.

01:37:29.000 So that one kind of fell away.

01:37:30.920 And I think what they're getting ready now is to tell us like a twofold thing.

01:37:34.220 One is that there were entities that did that to us and they were the greys and they got

01:37:41.120 us so far in our development.

01:37:42.340 And then the tall nords came along and liberated us from our slave masters.

01:37:46.680 And then also altered us, uh, you know, a degree beyond what the greys did to us.

01:37:51.960 And they made us, you know, modern day humans, but either way, they're getting ready to repackage

01:37:56.500 our creation story and paint these motherfuckers as like heroes, heroes that are going to save

01:38:01.560 us, uh, you know, from, from whatever impending calamity is on the way.

01:38:05.420 But I do think that that impending calamity, they've kind of figured out what they're going

01:38:11.980 to do with it and what that calamity is going to look like.

01:38:14.920 And the reason I say that is this, this is where I called top earlier.

01:38:18.540 And I was like, I think I figured it out and top stop me if you don't want me to go here

01:38:21.860 yet, but I'm, I'm, I think I'm going to go kind of to the, where I think this is all

01:38:25.880 heading.

01:38:26.720 Actually, I have a video, if you wouldn't mind me sharing, um, it's of Elon Musk and here

01:38:32.680 I'll present it.

01:38:33.760 And I'll let you, is there any copyright stuff on it?

01:38:36.560 I have no idea actually.

01:38:38.000 Uh, you know what, we don't have to, I don't think there is music here.

01:38:40.700 I'll play it for a second and listen.

01:38:42.780 No, it's, it's just him talking.

01:38:44.680 Okay.

01:38:45.040 Um, all right.

01:38:46.060 So it's, it's a two minute video.

01:38:47.180 We don't have to watch the whole thing.

01:38:48.280 We'll just look for when he gets the point across.

01:38:50.940 Um, I want you guys to keep in mind that this is Elon Musk.

01:38:54.180 Like everybody's favorite, what?

01:38:57.740 Autist.

01:38:58.840 He's like made this autism thing almost trendy in a way.

01:39:04.280 Uh, so here we go.

01:39:06.300 I don't know if you guys have this pulled up.

01:39:07.540 Let me check.

01:39:07.960 Okay, great.

01:39:09.360 And, uh, I won't even read that.

01:39:11.740 Let's just let him talk full screen.

01:39:13.340 Pretty radically over the course of like, say, 10,000 years.

01:39:17.140 Um, you know, it can shift from being extremely hot to extremely cold and turn into a snowball.

01:39:23.780 Tons of ice ages, right?

01:39:25.920 Yeah.

01:39:26.180 You can really go down a deep rabbit hole if you read about ice ages.

01:39:32.700 So, so he's alluding to something.

01:39:34.960 I just want to give the people some context and you can tell he's being reserved, right?

01:39:38.940 He's using expressions like rabbit hole.

01:39:40.680 You can go down a really deep rabbit hole when it comes to ice ages, right?

01:39:44.640 And you can tell he's like looking for the words.

01:39:46.760 It's interesting the way he presents this.

01:39:49.240 So interesting.

01:39:50.220 That's how much Earth's climate has changed and even where the, where the magnetically where the poles are.

01:39:56.820 I think that's all we have to do.

01:39:59.420 Magnetically where the poles are.

01:40:01.620 Now, I'm not going to play the rest of this because it's done.

01:40:03.400 We don't need to do that anymore.

01:40:04.540 We've already gotten to, uh, the point of this.

01:40:07.380 So I'm going to stop sharing this.

01:40:08.620 And I just want to say that what he's alluding to and he's acting, and I don't know if he's acting or not, very concerned.

01:40:14.960 But he's concerned about the pole shift.

01:40:19.100 This is something that goes along with that Zachariah Sitchin Anunnaki narrative.

01:40:25.360 Basically, it goes, there is going to be an additional celestial body that the ancients knew existed.

01:40:33.000 And they say that, like, the Sumerians actually had it on their hieroglyphs.

01:40:35.880 They had all of our, uh, all the planets in our solar system and then an extra one that they called Nibiru.

01:40:42.640 And so the idea was that Nibiru was going to come back.

01:40:45.200 It's on an elliptical orbit.

01:40:46.420 It takes a lot longer to enter our sphere of influence.

01:40:49.800 But we are all circling around the sun, if you believe that, and, um, and in a perfect circle.

01:40:56.780 But an elliptical orbit is essentially an oval.

01:40:59.500 And so that insinuates that part of it passes through our solar system, and part of it goes well beyond the edges of our solar system.

01:41:07.220 And it's been very far away on that part of its orbit.

01:41:10.620 And it's coming back.

01:41:11.980 And that was going to have all sorts of implications on our planet.

01:41:15.940 One of them would be that it would disturb the magnetosphere to such an extent that it would become unstable.

01:41:21.680 And then, uh, magnetic north and magnetic south would no longer be in alignment with geographical north and geographical south.

01:41:31.000 And this was going to cause a litany of climate-related disasters.

01:41:35.600 So, well, that's what people have been saying, that we're not going into, like, the, I don't want to get in trouble, but essentially it's not warming, it's cooling.

01:41:48.280 Right.

01:41:49.200 I mean, the way I was made to understand it when I was younger was that this was going to be almost unpredictable.

01:41:55.020 Almost unpredictable.

01:41:55.800 Like, in the sense that the calamities would be so, um, varying and devastating that it was, like, cold or hot wouldn't really matter.

01:42:04.240 We're thinking earthquakes and tidal waves and a complete, uh, reshaping of the surface of the earth.

01:42:10.400 And, um, in other words, something so big that the only way you could avoid it is by doing one of two things.

01:42:18.000 Some sort of deep underground military base, or, if I would have played that video a little bit longer, you would have found out that Elon Musk's solution for this is, we're going to Mars.

01:42:30.220 That's the motivation behind all of Elon Musk's Mars talk.

01:42:35.340 By the way, you want to talk about one big incestual connection.

01:42:39.360 Wernher von Braun writes a piece of science fiction about a guy who colonizes Mars and his name is Elon.

01:42:47.360 It's all one big closed loop writer.

01:42:50.800 We're not crazy.

01:42:52.660 All right.

01:42:53.080 We're not crazy.

01:42:54.240 We are crazy.

01:42:55.660 Even, even the, the project Operation Stargate, um, from the seventies, that shows itself again, immediately with Donald Trump's inauguration, where like one of the first thing he announces is $500 billion for AI Stargate.

01:43:09.840 Right.

01:43:10.100 So, but to me, when, when you're thinking the original Stargate, uh, they were channeling aliens, right?

01:43:15.720 And they were using, uh, Yuri Geller as one of the main focus points there to, uh, among other things, remote viewing was kind of what they were saying they were doing for international affairs, but they're also like trying to contact UFOs in this project Stargate.

01:43:28.540 When I look at the current project Stargate with AI and this huge push to fund it, you see like Sam Altman, you see Elon Musk and they're kind of jockeying for who's going to get this nut, you know?

01:43:39.640 And again, it looks like Elon Musk is pulling away there.

01:43:42.540 His, uh, Grok is fantastic.

01:43:44.100 It does.

01:43:45.500 It's much better than chat GPT.

01:43:47.280 I don't use that anymore for, you know, we use it, we use it like our, uh, like our chained up demons.

01:43:52.740 Like just do this for me, do that for me.

01:43:54.440 It's a lot of fun.

01:43:55.040 And then they do it because they better or else.

01:43:57.680 Um, so it's like Elon Musk is now also on the, he's right, he's right there just playing footsie with, uh, operation Stargate or project Stargate, this new one.

01:44:10.380 And this new iteration is AI, but I think it's, I think AI is demons.

01:44:14.960 I think it's just a portal and we're going to find out that, uh, we were talking to some kind of non-human intelligence on the other side of this thing.

01:44:24.480 Maybe not all the time.

01:44:25.540 Maybe some of it is, uh, just, you know, general computing and, uh, finding information that's already been stored online.

01:44:31.480 But I've seen, I've seen too much already with AI where it seems to have its own intelligence.

01:44:36.180 I know Google had to shut down their AI at one point because it started to get really weird.

01:44:40.200 Like it's really weird.

01:44:41.260 Yeah.

01:44:41.420 I don't even like talking to it, uh, because it's got its personalities.

01:44:45.320 It's a, it's a, it's a weird one.

01:44:47.480 So I don't know, I don't know what AI is, but it looks awful lot like, uh, we are, we are opening this channeling Stargate, but we're doing it in our hands and our phones and our computers.

01:44:59.260 We're all kind of contributing to teaching this thing.

01:45:01.820 So what do you think about that?

01:45:03.680 Right.

01:45:03.900 Do you think that there's any overlap or am I just crazy?

01:45:07.000 No, I think, uh, you're, that's sort of exactly what's going on.

01:45:11.540 I mean, when you look at our phones, they're essentially scrying devices.

01:45:14.940 I mean, whenever they're locked, they're black.

01:45:17.640 That's what a black scrying mirror is.

01:45:19.560 And they're not any other color.

01:45:21.600 The screen is always black.

01:45:22.960 You know, why is the screen always black?

01:45:24.720 You know, it's a black scrying mirror and we're essentially taking the, we're, we're building this AI artificial intelligence system.

01:45:32.620 I mean, that's how chat GPT started in the, they would take all that data of all the people that were talking to chat GPT.

01:45:39.820 And then they would filter it through and then make it better.

01:45:42.940 Right.

01:45:43.300 We're essentially training the, the artificial AI intelligence systems on how to respond and what to say and what to do and what information to give.

01:45:54.360 And I think Musk, didn't Musk say that he, that he's shooting a rocket to Mars at the end of 2026 or something like that?

01:46:04.940 I don't know.

01:46:05.960 I can't keep up with these lies.

01:46:07.100 I think he said, yeah, Elon Musk reinforces intention on Friday for SpaceX to launch an uncrewed starship to Mars by the end of 2026.

01:46:17.380 You know, just to be transparent, like, I don't, go ahead, Top.

01:46:21.240 No, go ahead.

01:46:21.660 You finish, you finish.

01:46:22.320 I was just going to say, I don't necessarily think that any of this is real.

01:46:25.400 Like, I don't have this sense of like an impending polar shift.

01:46:28.820 I don't think that that is totally real.

01:46:30.900 We talked to Crow777 recently, and he did show us that there seems to be some other celestial body that's hiding like behind the sun.

01:46:38.520 And then he showed us images of it.

01:46:39.840 And I have to admit, they're very compelling.

01:46:41.360 But I don't think that that necessarily means that we're going to have such a widespread calamity that we're going to destroy the world.

01:46:47.280 But I do recognize that it's very beneficial if you can get the public to believe that.

01:46:52.420 And then Hegelian dialectic style present them, or even better, like an Albert Pike kind of, you know, when the people need a hero, we shall provide one for them.

01:47:02.580 I know that's like a paraphrasing more or less.

01:47:04.280 But I look at the heroes that we have right now, and I find that they are all connected in this weird way, right?

01:47:09.940 Like an Elon Musk and a Joe Rogan.

01:47:12.460 Joe Rogan, we just mentioned before, for whatever reason, is repackaging and giving us sort of MKUltra, you know, apparatus.

01:47:21.400 I wouldn't know what to call it, but it's just like elements of the MKUltra program.

01:47:24.720 He's disseminating to the public as if it's just for, like, good mental health.

01:47:29.300 And I realize that he is so intimately tied in with Elon Musk.

01:47:33.460 Elon Musk, the same guy who said, by the way, it's like we're summoning the demon when it comes to AI.

01:47:38.040 And now these two guys, Rogan and Musk, are finding themselves as central figures to the Trump administration.

01:47:45.060 And the whole thing with the Trump administration is strange because I have a feeling that there's a connection, in my opinion, between him and, like, Nimrod, like the king of Babylon, right?

01:47:55.880 And you're thinking about, like, the Tower of Babel and this idea that we're going to climb it and enter heaven.

01:48:03.180 To me, that sounds a lot like a euphemism for, like, a dimensional doorway or, like, a Stargate.

01:48:07.700 And it's just fascinating that he's doing Project Stargate.

01:48:10.760 We're also entering in what he calls the golden age, Donald Trump.

01:48:15.000 This is the same language that Blavatsky and Alice Bailey used to describe what was going to start in 2025.

01:48:22.680 It was going to start in 2025.

01:48:25.140 Is that really what they said?

01:48:26.720 Oh, yeah.

01:48:27.120 100%.

01:48:27.500 I have it in my notes here.

01:48:30.200 Handy-dandy notebook.

01:48:31.180 Yeah, so Alice Bailey called 2025 the start of a new golden age, interestingly enough, marked by the return of Christ sometime after 2025 A.D.

01:48:45.980 It's the age of Aquarius, allegedly, that we're moving into.

01:48:49.420 And that was based off of, I guess, her interpretation of Helena Blavatsky's work, who also predicted a new age starting in 2025.

01:48:59.380 So, I mean, these weird synchronicities, they just keep popping up over and over and over again to the point where, like, I think what we're starting to uncover is, like, the whole picture.

01:49:14.120 It's the whole picture.

01:49:14.940 Like, a lot of us within the conspiracy community, we all have a piece of this, you know, this great big picture that we're kind of, like, holding on to and trying to understand and trying to share with people.

01:49:27.320 And all those pieces fit into this one.

01:49:30.740 They're all, like, none of them contradict it.

01:49:32.400 None of them put, in fact, this thing just bolsters all that other shit.

01:49:35.940 A big one, I think, is going to be, well, it's, like, it's off the back of Andreeja Puharich.

01:49:42.580 It's going to involve the telepathy tapes.

01:49:44.500 It's going to involve Elon Musk and Donald Trump and probably Joe Rogan.

01:49:48.140 But something, another thing to throw onto here, because we almost forgot, but Elon Musk and his company Neuralink, they filed a trademark application for, to secure the term telepathy and telekinesis.

01:50:00.160 It's going to be used.

01:50:02.260 So everybody's favorite autist just filed, what is it called?

01:50:07.620 So again, it's a trademark, but it's not going to be, obviously, you can't trademark or patent telepathy itself.

01:50:17.320 But it seems like there will be functions within the Neuralink, whatever Neuralink is offering.

01:50:23.800 You can probably trademark the expression, right?

01:50:25.100 So if somebody else comes out with the technology, they're forced to call it something else.

01:50:28.340 I don't think somebody tried to trademark 9-11, and I don't think they were successful.

01:50:32.480 Well, if anybody could do it, Top, it would be Elon Musk, if they were going to let anybody do it.

01:50:37.760 I think it's going to apply to a feature of whatever is being offered with Neuralink.

01:50:43.480 So they are going to be working on how to probably simulate this inorganically through a brain chip, telepathy, and telekinesis.

01:50:52.260 This is what they're hinting at.

01:50:53.680 It's going to allow us to all communicate with the nine, right?

01:50:56.620 Well, that's what Rogan has been talking about.

01:50:58.980 That's what he's been saying for, like, years now.

01:51:01.080 I think we're all just going to get to the point where, like, there's no more secrets, and we could just read each other's minds.

01:51:05.680 Yeah, exactly.

01:51:06.700 That's what he's been saying.

01:51:07.880 Yep.

01:51:08.360 So just think about that, though.

01:51:10.360 Everybody's favorite autist is trademarking telepathy.

01:51:14.320 He's going to put it in your brain with his technology, and he's worried about an impending climate disaster.

01:51:21.000 It fucking—it's the same—dude.

01:51:23.580 It's the same thing.

01:51:24.880 Also, let's keep in mind, the last time human beings tried to—well, not that they tried to, but last time they were of the same mind, spoke the same language, which a lot of people speculate was telekinesis or telepathy, was the story of the Tower of Babel.

01:51:40.040 And, naturally, what they did was build some sort of—they call it, like, a tower, but I think it might have been more of a Stargate, and they tried to kill God, and then God sent them their separate ways, different languages.

01:51:53.340 This is mythology that's, you know, written across cultures as well, but it's within the Bible, something that's, like, very important.

01:52:01.500 So we are—

01:52:02.520 Now we're doing it again.

01:52:03.760 We're doing it again.

01:52:04.580 Again, it's $500 billion to Project Stargate, and it's this unholy union of mRNA technology and AI.

01:52:14.420 Mm-hmm.

01:52:15.100 So, I mean, this whole thing is—it's just repeated attempts at the same thing.

01:52:21.240 It went from spiritual to technological, but I would argue that there was really never a difference at all.

01:52:26.540 And it's, like, literally the book of Ecclesiastes, right?

01:52:29.720 Nothing new is under the sun.

01:52:31.680 This is a complete and total closed loop.

01:52:34.420 We're doing the same thing over again with the same characters.

01:52:36.880 I would even argue—

01:52:37.840 The question—the question is, is this the last loop, though?

01:52:41.700 Like, is this the one?

01:52:43.280 Will this be marked by the return of Christ?

01:52:45.680 Are then we going to go into, you know, the thousand years of his reign?

01:52:48.820 I mean, it sure looks like—it looks like we're set up to—it looks like these guys are setting up to take their shot at God again.

01:52:55.960 This is what they do.

01:52:57.580 They build us to a certain point, and they get the technology so that they can interface with us and take this physical shot at God.

01:53:04.700 And, you know, the book of Revelation is just riddled with what is happening now.

01:53:08.300 And it's a little alarming.

01:53:10.320 Not going to lie.

01:53:11.060 I'm kind of like, what the hell are you guys doing?

01:53:12.840 It's kind of crazy, but—

01:53:13.920 It's a lot of fun, though.

01:53:14.600 Yeah, it's a lot of fun, and it's just like, hey, man, take your best shot.

01:53:17.460 Don't miss.

01:53:18.300 When you're aiming at God, you better not miss.

01:53:20.720 And you know what?

01:53:21.180 It's already been prophesied that they do miss, so it's going to be interesting to see exactly how they do it.

01:53:27.180 Now, Ryder.

01:53:28.660 It seems like a giant reincarnation loop, but it's not just a personal reincarnation loop.

01:53:34.480 It's just like a collective reincarnation loop that we essentially keep doing the same things as a society.

01:53:41.520 We build up for a little time.

01:53:43.060 We have some dark ages, and then we have this golden age.

01:53:45.580 Then we go back down to the dark ages, and then we have a golden age, and it's just like this repeating cycle of indefinite repeating cycle.

01:53:54.220 I kind of think it's to make us forget, though, as a people.

01:53:56.880 I think there was a start, and there is an end.

01:54:00.000 And a lot of the things that happen in the middle are constant attempts at, like, erasing our history.

01:54:06.360 Because our ancestors were much more spiritual than we are.

01:54:10.340 And what's his name?

01:54:12.200 Tucker Carlson was just talking about how he thinks that we in the West have been stripped of our understanding of the spiritual realm.

01:54:17.880 And I would say, like, that is the point.

01:54:19.480 They had to get us to the point where, for the first time in human history, we were almost void of any spiritual knowledge, of any connection to the spiritual realm.

01:54:28.220 They did it technologically.

01:54:29.660 They did it with poisons.

01:54:30.640 They did it with food.

01:54:31.440 They did it with all kinds of crap.

01:54:33.120 And this time is like, I don't know, kind of like their Hail Mary.

01:54:37.080 Like, all of their things are coming to fruition.

01:54:39.100 They finally got us to the point where we're really detached, and we're really not functioning right.

01:54:43.600 And now they're going to try to do it again.

01:54:45.480 It's no difference between the days of Noah.

01:54:47.920 So that loop that you're talking about, it's to push God's hand, if you believe in the biblical narrative, where they're going to play this out.

01:54:59.280 They're going to have their Antichrist constantly set up in every generation because nobody knows the time or day.

01:55:05.200 So, you know, people are screaming at the sky with their signs on the corner, and they're saying, the end is nigh.

01:55:10.260 And it's like, it looks an awful lot like it.

01:55:12.960 But I don't know if this is the final iteration.

01:55:15.520 We do know that this is an iteration.

01:55:18.420 What they're doing is the same thing that they've done time and time after, time and time again.

01:55:23.720 And it's like, it's not necessarily the people that are living this reincarnation karmic loop.

01:55:28.820 It's just that we're malleable, and we don't remember because our lives are finite.

01:55:33.060 But the entities behind the veil here that are influencing are constantly influencing in the same way.

01:55:38.440 They can't create.

01:55:39.600 They can't make anything new.

01:55:40.860 It's just the same story over and over again.

01:55:42.920 And it plays out slightly different because people are slightly different every single time they do this.

01:55:47.620 But we get to this end point, this culmination, and I feel like we're here again.

01:55:52.920 So it's like, what is going to happen?

01:55:55.080 Is this the last one?

01:55:56.800 Or are we going to destroy ourselves and then fucking redo this whole experiment again?

01:56:02.780 That's up to God.

01:56:03.680 For me, it looks an awful lot like biblical prophecy unfolding.

01:56:08.860 But then again, you've got people just creating it artificially.

01:56:13.020 I don't know if you could force God to come back by burning a couple of red heifers.

01:56:17.680 I don't know that you can force that.

01:56:20.460 I'll tell you what, it seems even within their reach, it's like if part of prophecy is the drying up of the Euphrates,

01:56:26.320 well, now they're telling us like, hey, we do do cloud seeding, all right?

01:56:31.020 But we just want it to rain in Dubai.

01:56:32.740 But when we used to say that you can control the weather, we were unhinged conspiracy theorists.

01:56:36.400 So I don't even think it's out of the realm of possibilities to dry up the Euphrates.

01:56:40.460 I would be remiss to mention that Andrija Puharic also was working on something called ELF waves,

01:56:47.400 extremely low frequency waves between 3 and 30 hertz that occur naturally in the earth.

01:56:52.500 He developed a way to harness these waves and they were using it to penetrate the neurological processes,

01:57:00.780 altering brain activity, and potentially enhance psychic abilities.

01:57:05.020 What they didn't know is that it had environmental effects.

01:57:08.340 And the environmental effects that it had are speculated to be the precursor to the HAARP technology

01:57:16.180 that we talk about a little bit now because these waves are unstable and they make it rain.

01:57:21.380 They'll make earthquakes and shit like that.

01:57:23.160 Wow.

01:57:23.600 This guy was behind this as well and this is happening in the 70s.

01:57:26.600 So go ahead and look that up.

01:57:28.060 This guy's everywhere.

01:57:29.420 That doesn't end.

01:57:30.000 I like him.

01:57:30.760 I'm a fan.

01:57:31.400 Yeah.

01:57:31.760 He's the guy.

01:57:32.600 He's our conspiracy daddy.

01:57:34.460 He's conspiracy mascot.

01:57:36.360 You know what I mean?

01:57:36.960 He's like at the forefront of everything that is fun to talk about in this, you know, strange pursuit.

01:57:44.620 I got to run in a minute, but do you want to know how his story wraps up?

01:57:48.500 Because it's like, it's the craziest thing you'll never guess.

01:57:51.020 Yes, please.

01:57:52.140 All right.

01:57:52.380 In 1995 in Virginia, he falls down a flight of stairs and dies.

01:57:55.720 That's it.

01:57:57.940 That's it.

01:57:59.560 Gone.

01:58:00.040 Oh my God.

01:58:00.880 Although, you know, falling down a flight of stairs working for the CIA for all these

01:58:04.060 years.

01:58:04.240 I'm like, I don't know.

01:58:05.140 Maybe something a little bit more.

01:58:07.540 Yeah.

01:58:07.760 But yeah, that's it.

01:58:08.600 Just falls downstairs and it's over.

01:58:11.080 Are we crazy, Ryder?

01:58:12.240 Did that, did any of that make sense?

01:58:14.300 I don't think so.

01:58:15.220 I, because a lot of the things that you guys were talking about, I've also came to the

01:58:19.360 same conclusion on.

01:58:20.360 So it was kind of like a crescendo of like a lot of the stuff that I've talked about.

01:58:24.280 And it's really refreshing to hear you guys like go through this.

01:58:28.080 And I didn't know anything about the, uh, the, uh, I'm going to keep screwing up his

01:58:32.440 name, the porridge guy.

01:58:33.360 And I'm not doing that to make fun of him.

01:58:35.640 I just, I don't know.

01:58:37.280 It's all right.

01:58:37.520 Not familiar with his name.

01:58:38.800 He literally kicked off MK ultra.

01:58:40.560 All right.

01:58:40.860 Let's make fun of him.

01:58:41.740 He looks terrible.

01:58:42.480 He's like, no, he's kind of a cool looking character.

01:58:44.120 I like him.

01:58:44.800 I like him.

01:58:45.740 Yeah.

01:58:45.940 I didn't know anything about the porridge guy.

01:58:47.320 I just knew about Paul Benowitz and like this whole UFO, uh, disinformation, misinformation

01:58:52.600 stuff that is obviously a setup for something in the future.

01:58:57.060 If it's not, then why have they let it go on for so long?

01:59:00.100 Why did they not start correcting these people that are spewing out this garbage nonsense?

01:59:05.020 Like, it's very easy to correct, but they've just let it go on.

01:59:08.460 They let these conferences happen where everyone's all on board with the extraterrestrial stuff.

01:59:13.340 We got spiritual people that's channeling aliens.

01:59:17.060 And I mean, that's goes back to the twenties.

01:59:19.920 That goes back to the cult of I am with Guy and Edna Ballard.

01:59:23.880 There were, they're channeling freaking, um, uh, the ascended masters.

01:59:28.980 Yep.

01:59:29.640 Ah, man.

01:59:30.500 I wish, you know, I don't, I don't know.

01:59:32.600 Even the ascended masters, it ends up being a, a talking point on this, but, but I do

01:59:37.840 think what we're trying to unpack here, you know, in a two hour time limit is everything.

01:59:42.800 The conspiracy of everything.

01:59:45.560 A little bit of a challenge.

01:59:46.920 Well, I enjoyed it very much, guys.

01:59:49.100 I really appreciate you guys coming on and talking with me.

01:59:51.300 It was really fascinating.

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02:02:03.220 as well.

02:02:03.760 So yeah, episode one, episode one of Nephilim death squad.

02:02:07.660 We had sweet, sweet donut on and, uh, and he did, he told us about John C. Lilly and the

02:02:12.120 float tanks.

02:02:12.740 And we talked about, uh, uh, I forget what his name is.

02:02:15.760 The guy who does the experiment.

02:02:17.220 It doesn't matter.

02:02:17.980 It's got, but yes, Rupert Sheldrake.

02:02:20.400 There we go.

02:02:20.900 Rupert Sheldrake, who is also another one who's examining this psychic phenomenon.

02:02:24.480 So very cool.

02:02:25.480 Uh, full circle.

02:02:26.240 Once again, that sounds like someone from Harry Potter, Rupert Sheldrake.

02:02:29.240 But I love Donut.

02:02:30.320 I've had Donut on before.

02:02:31.440 I've been on his show.

02:02:32.400 Uh, really good, really good dude there.

02:02:34.900 Well, guys.

02:02:35.960 Happy birthday, Donut.

02:02:37.400 Oh, it's his birthday.

02:02:38.180 Happy birthday, Donut, dude.

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Nephilim Death Squad - March 25, 2025

From MK Ultra to Psychic Phenomena： The Influence of Andrija Puharich (NDS on Raised by Giants)

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