Gremlins & Hybrid Eagle Men ｜ NDS Chronicles
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Summary
In this episode of NDSN Chronicles, we have a story about a lady who shows up at your local coffee shop asking for food at night time, and we have another story about someone showing up in your coffee shop at night and asking you to give them some food.
Transcript
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My name is Mackenzie, and I started a GoFundMe for the adoptive mother of a nonverbal autistic child.
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Welcome, blop, blop, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of NDS Chronicles, the show where we read or interview your paranormal testimony.
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If you want to submit your testimony, go on over to chronicles at NDS.com.
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I don't pay attention to all of that, but I look at them sometimes.
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I like to poke my head in like an omnipresent God figure and look at all the people that are communicating with each other.
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Is that where the lady has been threatening us on the Telegram?
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There's no lady that's been threatening to show up to the coffee shop to cause bodily harm to us.
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There's no lady that's been standing outside of it screaming.
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Tori, who's not from Canada, is here to share a story with us.
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We've created an interesting situation here where, yeah, maybe a lady can show up outside
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and scream and call for our deaths or whatever's happening.
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But we also get people that show up and get to share their stories with us.
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We have an interesting one for the Patreon members today.
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We have another gentleman showing up in about an hour or so.
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I know you said you're not part of the chat, so you probably don't recognize these psychos.
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There's, like, a little bit of background, I guess.
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We grew up, like, out in the woods and stuff, whatever, in, like, a, I don't know, 200-year-old
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And I grew up, like, you know, my mom pretty much, like, Grandma Maxx, me, you know?
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Like, just very, you know, Christian, but, like, didn't believe in any sort of, like, weird,
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So this was when I was probably, like, 10 or so.
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So, like, I was just laying in bed one night and just, like, normal, like, about to fall
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And all of a sudden, I felt, like, a tug at the end of, like, the covers at the end of
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And I was, like, oh, dude, like, my first thought was, like, oh, that's a mouse or something,
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like, because, you know, it's an old house in the woods.
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So I was, like, I'm just going to pull the blankets up to get, to get it, like, up off
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Dude, so I pulled the blankets back and it pulled back.
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So it was, like, like, I just kind of pulled it a little and it pulled back.
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And so I was, like, is this, like, a, I don't know, like, a raccoon or something is in the
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Dude, like, but I was, like, it's, like, pretty strong.
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So I, like, pull the blankets again, like, hard this time.
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And it pulled back, like, exactly as hard as I would pull.
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Like I said, like, in my mind, I'm, like, you know, I don't think that there's, like, I
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knew there was, like, demons and stuff, but I thought, you know, whatever.
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I just didn't think, like, that never even occurred to me.
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So I'm, like, all right, there's, like, a raccoon under my bed or something.
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I was, like, I just, like, scooted to the middle of the bed and just, like, laid there.
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I was, like, picturing, like, stepping off the bed and just getting my Achilles slashed.
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This is when you were, you said you were already asleep.
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So that's, so, well, we'll skip ahead a little bit.
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The next morning, like, I ended up falling asleep.
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The next morning, I told my parents, like, dude, this happened.
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They were, like, yeah, no, it was a dream, whatever.
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Yeah, if my 10-year-old, because my son's 10 right now and I'm trying to put myself in your
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parents' shoes, if he came and said that, I don't know how much I could entertain.
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Well, it seems like your parents definitely thought it was a dream.
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Well, your kids, his kid is, like, when you were at my house not too long ago, he goes,
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Top, I think I saw this creature in, like, the forest right there.
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Because, you know, he's, like, at that age now where so much content aimed at kids has,
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So, the next morning, right, I go downstairs and, like, told my parents.
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Like, to the point where my dad came up to the bedroom and, like, lifted up the bed and
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And he really needs us to pay for these Herba Matés.
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I didn't tell stories and stuff when I was a kid.
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And I'm expecting to see, like, you know, animal hair.
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Because I still, in my mind, I'm like, well, there was a...
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You're not of the school of thought of, like, I think I felt something.
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So you're expecting tangible evidence from a little critter.
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Is there, like, a hole that it chewed through the wall or something?
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If it was in there, it would have still been in there.
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And I was just, like, I don't know what in the world that was.
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So I was, like, must have just been a gremlin, I guess.
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So was this around the time of the movie Gremlins, which is why?
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So I was just, like, well, it had to have been...
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So, like, in my mind, I'm still, like, not thinking about, you know, this was, like,
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We had a dog, but the door was closed, and she wasn't...
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I'm of the school of thought that, like, all of the pantheon of critters exists.
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I don't know if the pantheon of critters is in alignment with the kingdom of God.
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But I do think all that kind of weird stuff exists.
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Because I remember there was a time when I was younger, and I was coming across these
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I remember one of them was, like, a house full of Mexicans playing hacky sack.
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And their hacky sack, like, flies over to the corner of the room, and the dude walks
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It's weird the way that it happened, because this thing was in frame the whole time.
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And it was, like, it was in the room with them the whole time, but it was somehow not
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When he reached down to get the hacky sack, this thing just takes off running.
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And that Mexican guy shrieked, and he took off, like, several feet in the air, and then
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So, yeah, I don't actually think it was a gremlin.
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I, like, told people and stuff, and they're like, oh, yeah, you're dreaming.
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So, then, like, maybe a couple weeks later, my cousin slept over at the house, right?
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I think this time, I was asleep, but he was still awake.
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I'm just, like, you know, I'm 10 or 11, whatever.
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I'm just like, you know, we're, like, outside kids.
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So, yeah, so basically, yeah, we just laid there and whatever.
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Pictureing, like, Freddy Krueger stuff or something.
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And at that point, still, I was just, like, dude, like, I don't know what.
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Like, it never even occurred to me that it was, like, a demonic thing or anything.
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If my kid did it now, I'd be like, dude, you're watching so much crap, like, all the time.
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But then, like, because it was me and my cousin both.
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So, now it's like, we definitely weren't dreaming, you know?
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And, like, my mom always was kind of, like, weird about it.
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Like, secretly, I think that she has had weird experiences in that house maybe because she's always like, no, no, no.
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You know, it's after that, like, telling the story.
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Which, again, you know, my cousin's even more of, like, a not storyteller than me.
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But he's like the dude that we go to for, like, moral quandaries.
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We're like, hey, man, you're the best person we know.
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But he definitely wasn't lying, you know what I mean?
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And that was, like, I think that was, like, the only weird thing that ever happened, like, to me, really ever in that house.
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I had a sleep paralysis thing years later at a different house.
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But in that same bedroom before, my sister's older than me, I guess she's, like, eight years older than me.
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So, when she went to college or whatever, I moved into that room.
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And I guess years earlier, she had seen, like, a dude standing in the doorway that, like, wasn't supposed to be there type of thing.
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And, like, she, like, panicked and stuff and started screaming.
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To the point where, I guess, like, my mom called the neighbor and he came over or something.
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She was, like, yeah, I thought there was a dude in the door.
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I was actually born in a house like that as well.
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Yeah, that sounds similar to the story that you told.
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Yeah, you spoke with my cousin that they don't live there any longer.
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Yeah, thank God I got out, like, at a three or four.
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But that was one of the things that I would see.
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Because I would go to sleep over my cousin's house often.
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And we'd, like, sleep in the living room if there was a bunch of us.
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And for some reason, one of my other cousins, she was, like, the older one that would watch us.
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She was kind of, like, a stepchild of, it was a weird relationship.
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It was a weird relationship how she was in the family.
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Because, like, she was, like, discarded to the side as cousin.
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But she's kind of, like, not by blood type of deal.
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But through some kind of weird means, if that makes any sense.
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She would say that this thing would follow her around.
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And it's, like, it was, like, claiming dominion over her.
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And I just, like, it was one of the things where, like, you just pull the blanks over your head.
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Yeah, somebody in the chat said that your bed is, like, your safe place.
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It is weird because there's, like, this instinctive pulling the blankets over your eyes.
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And knowing, like, I'm safe until I let this down.
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Dude, like I said, like, I never, it never occurred to me that it was, like, something demonic until it was, like, probably 15 years later or something.
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I was watching, like, one of the, like, paranormal activity movies or something like that.
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And, like, because I never, like, really watched scary movies growing up.
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Anytime something scary is on the TV, I'm, like, you get the hell out of here because I love my sleep.
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And the last thing I need is my kid freaking out and unable to, you know.
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Yeah, so, like, it never occurred to me until, like, when I was an adult watching one of those movies.
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It's, like, the first, like, scene of the movie is the kid gets the bed.
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That's, like, that is what, like, my covers, like, didn't get pulled off.
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You said grandma was, grandma's Christian, right?
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Yeah, we grew up, like, very Christian and, like, yeah, straight Bible, straight Bible stuff.
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Yesterday, we had a guy, he's going to be in here later on, and he was sharing some stories.
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But she's, like, this sort of thing, like, it just happens.
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I go, because I explained to her, I was, like, these things usually aren't a one-off.
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But then there are strange little idiosyncrasies throughout, you know, childhood especially.
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And then you'll find out if you ask, like, a grandparent or something, you know, they were
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involved in something weird or they had weird experiences.
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So I'm trying to explain to her in simple terms, like, generational iniquity.
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And then I ask him, because he was distracted during that.
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And then I go, is your life, like, dotted with these little things, especially throughout
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And I go, your grandparents or maybe your parents, were they involved in anything strange?
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And it's just, like, these patterns, typically it doesn't happen in a vacuum.
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There are those who, like, will go their whole life and not have any kind of experience like
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And then the people who do have those experiences, it's very rarely a one-off.
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And it's literally, like, you remember the more significant ones.
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But then once you start, like, scratching it, you're like, there are lesser, lesser events
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that did take place that are, like, not as big, not as impactful, but still strange nonetheless.
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And so, you know, they're just the patterns that you discover through these.
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It's weird because with kids, I feel like these entities, they, that was like an invitation
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Like, if I talked to it or something, I would have...
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Or if you saw it, if you observed it, like, that's the Top Lops' Dogman idea.
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I'm, like, kind of consenting to it, interacting with it.
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So that's a little sneaky one, like, to pull that blanket off and to see, like, will they
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Because your life could have been much different if you...
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Because I was thinking through your mom's lens, like, you know, very much the same thing.
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If my son comes and tells me this thing, I'm going to, unless it's really obvious and I
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have to counsel him on how to, like, deal with this thing, I'm going to almost kind of
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And if it is, like, a thing that he's just making up, I don't want to encourage it.
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Because then that thing that he's making up could become something.
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It's like that act of, like, looking into a thing, you know, emboldens it or increases the
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And I do wonder, I mean, you never talk to your mom?
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Like, she gets pissed, like, if I tell her story.
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So, I don't know if she's had experiences or not.
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But, like, when I was a kid, she always would tell me, like, oh, this stuff is, you know,
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Which is, like, an oversimplification that you would say to your kids.
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Because, like, we'll just, like, tell this story occasionally around a campfire or something.
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And he's, like, you know, one of my closest friends.
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So, we'll, like, every so often bring the story back around.
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I guess I had thought that I told him after the first time it happened.
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Because when he, like, retold this story a year or two ago.
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And he was like, no, I didn't know anything about that until it started happening.
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And I was like, dude, this is, like, the same thing that happened the other day.
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So, when a thing happens in a vacuum, it just happens to you.
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Because you're like, something happened that broke the norm.
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It deviated from the norm in a really huge way.
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You still have to put it over there and just kind of keep moving on.
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And, you know, and that was the other thing that I was saying, I think, to Tiffany, our
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That these things will happen to people and there's literally nothing to do about it.
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And what is interesting is while we were talking to Dylan yesterday, and he'll be on a little
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bit, I was saying that I think those moments are more important than at least we're willing
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It's important to us because they stick with us.
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It's, like, if it wasn't important, it wouldn't be the story that comes up every time around
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And when you look throughout the Bible, you know, it's like the life of Daniel is a great
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example where who knows what happened to Daniel.
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He's got a whole life that isn't described in the Bible, but what is described are his
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So, the things that happen to us that we shelf and we think are insignificant, but they still
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stick with us, are, like, psychologically burned into our psyche, are the things that
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the Bible is, like, no, that's the most important part.
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I'm not saying, you know, that a gremlin pulling on your blanket is the most important footnote
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But I'm just saying the nature of these things that we struggle with and we put them to the
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Other people maybe don't even, like, your mother doesn't even, like, hearing about it.
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The points where human beings, like, touch the veil in the Bible are the ones that...
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A lot of my family made that mistake in that same house that I was telling you about.
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This is the one that went to try to deal with it?
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But there would be an old guy in the kitchen watching them cook.
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And my mom, my uncle, and my aunt, three different generations of family, or three different,
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you know, families lived in this same apartment.
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It was kind of like they were just renting it to our family.
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Yeah, she named it Ruben, and she's crazy, and she's talking to him.
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She's like, oh, Ruben, you over there watching me cook?
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I wonder, yeah, if I had, like, engaged with, like, what at the time, literally, I thought
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Yeah, maybe it was some sort of weird invitation type of thing or something.
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Well, when you look at these people on YouTube, you know, name, you know, a lot of people were
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I don't think it's an accident that a lot of those people, like, physiognomy betrays them.
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They look like, you know, meth addicts and stuff.
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And I think there's something where it's like, yeah, if you keep interacting with the spiritual
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realm, especially in a way that's not grounded in Christ, right?
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It was like, if it's grounded in Christ, it's rebuking these things in the name of Christ.
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And it's really funny if you watch it, too, by the way.
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They're not armed with the knowledge that Jesus Christ has given them authority.
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They freak out and they run and they go, high five.
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And then they get ready to do it again next week.
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And it's like, that, I think, is the worst thing that you could do because all you're doing
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And you're getting, you know, ectoplasm on you.
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You're getting crap on you that you're bringing back into your regular life.
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These things are attached to you because that interaction is, various levels of interaction
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Even like consenting to allow Jesus into your life.
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It's all, everything in the spiritual realm, good or bad, is consent-based.
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You have to agree to let him in, to let the Holy Spirit in.
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And, you know, he's not going to do it if you don't let him, you know?
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It's the same thing with like a demon or whatever, you know?
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I think if you looked at these people's lives, you would probably find that like outside
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of their successful ghost hunting YouTube channel, um, their relationships are falling
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They probably have all kinds of like things that they're not correlating to like the
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I mean, who knows what would have happened if you would have done some goofy shit, like
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So, are these things, you know, um, this is a one-off in your childhood.
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So, like this, so that, that was two different like occasions probably within two weeks to
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So, yeah, I don't know if I was like spiritually available at that point or something like that.
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But, cause like, I'm, you know, I don't remember being saved as a kid.
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I always believed, like it, it never occurred to me that like, geez.
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So, I don't think that, you know, I was like not saved and that was like, like Satan's
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Maybe there's just some weird entity trying to, like you said, trying to find its way
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New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, very old as far as like, you know, the settlements
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You know, that area was like, there was, it was like pretty, I don't know, however long
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Like, it was a dangerous like road for the, for the settlers to travel on because they'd
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be getting robbed by like the natives and stuff like that.
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The one day a dude did show up to the house, just some guy like knocked on the door and
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And he's like, my like great grandparents or something lived here.
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He's like, did you guys ever find like a headstone in the woods?
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He was like, well, do you mind if I like go look?
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He was just walking around the woods, like looking for.
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So, they had like a big bar before we moved in there and they would go during prohibition
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But in the attic, there's like a secret room in the attic and like I opened it up when we
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I was going to use it for storage and I like, I did use it for storage, but like I looked
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in one of the corners and there was this picture frame, like an oval picture frame and I picked
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it up and it was like, like three people who look like farmers and they're standing next
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to each other, but the faces were scratched out.
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What kind of menacing, spooky movie crap is that?
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Closed, like put my stuff on the other side, like apologize to it.
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But I was like, that's not, that's nothing for me to touch.
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I got to tell you though, I'm, I'm white enough that I would have opened up the thing.
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Well, the picture frame, but I remember when I picked it up, it did break a little bit.
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I mean, cause I would have wanted to see if there was writing on it.
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So I would be taking the picture out of the picture frame.
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I watched too much to be due to know that shit, man, man.
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I lived in a house in New Jersey, the house that I lived in was on railway Avenue in Elizabeth.
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So Elizabeth is, you know, one of the oldest cities in New Jersey.
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And then railway Avenue is the main Avenue that goes through there.
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Like, um, I was talking to my cousin recently and we haven't really talked for a long time
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He's diagnosed as a child, gets whisked off to a detention facility at like 12 and then
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doesn't see the light of day again until like 25.
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And, um, but I grew up with him in that house and I was talking to him and he's like, yeah,
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He said, I was looking up the stairs one day there and there's just this black shadow man
00:30:24.100
And it's like, you know, these old houses, there's probably something to energy and the
00:30:32.460
Like, I think you can have a physical object, you know, you look into all these like pagan
00:30:37.160
mythologies or, you know, uh, ancient peoples and there are like, uh, totems, objects that
00:30:46.480
I think if, if, uh, you know, if you wanted to speculate as to like what a haunted house
00:30:51.420
is, I think trauma has a way of, of bleeding into physical objects, walls and floors and all
00:30:59.300
And, um, and I don't know what you're seeing there.
00:31:01.680
I think it, you know, could be an entity masquerading as you get like that crap, right?
00:31:06.620
Where it's like, it's the ghost of a little boy.
00:31:11.220
Like that's, yeah, that's something masquerading as, um, but yeah, I think like if it, if it's
00:31:17.160
sufficiently charged, a thing can manifest there.
00:31:23.940
Please, um, the same way with water we were talking, like if you, if you speak negative
00:31:29.000
affirmations onto water and it frees it, the particles are all like dis and they're in
00:31:34.400
I think it's the same thing with houses, but follow me here.
00:31:39.080
All the materials like this gypsum board, all this dead shit that we have around us.
00:31:43.520
I feel like that will, that would more readily absorb like negative stuff.
00:31:48.160
If I'm just like yelling at my, if I'm telling my kids like you're garbage, like all day
00:31:55.460
All of our surroundings, all of our walls and ceilings are usually this weird press board
00:32:01.260
crap, press board, and then the fibers of it are all chaotic and all intertwining.
00:32:07.340
And then now even crazier, let's get like HGTV, like all the open, open floor planning.
00:32:13.360
Now all that shit, like if you curse the room, but like you've cursed your entire first level
00:32:23.100
What about, have you guys ever heard the whole thing about like lead paint, how they ban
00:32:30.760
Supposedly people are, but like the, I've heard like the theory that they did that because
00:32:37.140
So like, if you still had lead paint on your walls, that would block EMF.
00:32:40.060
So does that also, I mean, EMF is just like a vibration.
00:32:47.120
I mean, you think about like lead paint protecting us from some sort of, who knows, man, you
00:32:53.580
Or like, we'll get rid of, they can't voice to skull technology.
00:32:56.540
If your walls have lead paint on it or get rid of lead paint.
00:33:03.700
It's like, we're trying to heart attack gun, this son of a bitch, but he's got lead
00:33:07.380
We have, this is not, this is a really great gun, but we have to change the, the, you know,
00:33:11.980
the OSHA requirements if we're going to be able to heart attack gun people.
00:33:15.380
I think you're really onto something there because if you look at under a microscope,
00:33:19.360
like let's say, um, you know, old oak or something like that, like it's going to be
00:33:28.920
Like that's what it looks like under a microscope.
00:33:30.640
But if you pulverize that and you mix it with a resin and you press it into press board,
00:33:40.220
And yeah, I, I like that analogy of like, you speak negative affirmations to water and
00:33:48.160
If you speak positive affirmations to water and freeze it, the crystalline structure is,
00:33:54.080
It's all those like really classic, almost like snowflake images, right?
00:33:58.940
Well, the problem is that it's not vibrating at all.
00:34:01.140
Like there is no like earthly or alive vibration about this gypsum board.
00:34:09.060
It's like, uh, wearing polyester versus wearing wool, right?
00:34:14.620
There was actually studies on that where it shows that like polyester blends, they have
00:34:21.340
Now I've not confirmed that, but I will repeat that.
00:34:24.900
It's because it's not, it's not really vibrating at all.
00:34:27.980
It's like, it's, it's just going around wearing a dead body, dog.
00:34:37.580
It's called particle board and it resonates at the same frequency as a dead body.
00:34:45.000
It's good to, it's good to use, but it's like, yeah, it's dead.
00:34:51.240
I mean, I mean, if, if really everything on a subatomic level.
00:34:56.240
If everything at the subatomic level is mostly empty space and you imagine it's energy that's
00:35:07.480
I don't know what the, uh, everything has an electrical synapses that that's how atoms
00:35:12.300
So if, if that electrical current, that is the communication has to move through this empty
00:35:18.320
spaces, it probably moves really well through something that is a beautiful lattice that has
00:35:23.300
a flow to it, you know, it probably doesn't move really well through shit that is just
00:35:27.360
mashed up and pressed together with resin together.
00:35:31.480
Who the hell knows what that, does that lower the frequency?
00:35:33.660
It lowers the vibration and it doesn't allow it to, you know, be a high frequency item or
00:35:38.920
And therefore only low frequency entities can move through it.
00:35:44.220
I mean, we're just doing Nephilim death squad science, which is my favorite kind of science.
00:35:51.800
I, you know, and I wonder too, just on that note on old houses, right.
00:35:57.580
They're typically like really haunted and it's because what they're made with old crap
00:36:05.080
So maybe just, you know, maybe just the amount of people that have lived there.
00:36:08.800
There's like, Atma says, I love that Raven is not wrong, but a physics teacher would have
00:36:17.460
Just like the amount of people that if a house is 200 years old, who knows how many people
00:36:27.800
I mean, that's my adds up over the years or something.
00:36:30.560
You know, I've lived in project buildings and you know, they were haunted and, uh, and then
00:36:36.200
I would hear, so you'd have weird shadow people all the time, but then I'd go out of my apartment
00:36:40.980
into the hallway to go to the elevator or the stairwell.
00:36:43.180
And you would hear each, each door, just people screaming at each other behind each door.
00:36:55.200
And, you know, they're doing all these drugs, inviting all these spirits in.
00:36:58.060
And, and so, um, you know, it's to me, whatever is happening in the area that I, these things
00:37:05.960
Yours didn't sound negativity, but like, yeah, I, I was going to say that too.
00:37:10.100
So my, in case my mom listens, they didn't, yeah.
00:37:14.980
That's why all I was able to do is just pull your blanket.
00:37:19.840
Um, if your mom had beat you, maybe it would have been able to get a little bit further.
00:37:23.800
But then it's, it's like you were saying before about like these, these events that like
00:37:27.420
seem that could be nothing, whatever, but like it, it winds up being a big deal.
00:37:30.520
Like if that had never happened to me, like I wouldn't have been probably interested in,
00:37:36.420
you know, I started listening to like Tony Merkel and through him, I found like whoever, and then
00:37:42.800
Which like, not that this is like some huge impactful thing or whatever, probably my testimony
00:37:46.100
is going to lead many, many people to the Lord, obviously.
00:37:52.940
Like, I wouldn't be sitting here right now with you guys if that hadn't happened, probably
00:38:01.900
I guess, you know, that's, that's what we're saying.
00:38:03.960
But like the new, I think the conspiracy with the new housing, like the gypsum board, the
00:38:09.380
open plan, like my house is like tile on the floor.
00:38:15.980
I don't think that like spiritual stuff could really implant itself in here.
00:38:23.680
Like that's what most, when you go into a new McDonald's, do you feel the Holy Spirit
00:38:29.200
I don't go in there because they're making human meat burgers.
00:38:34.240
It looks like you could be in any corporate building.
00:38:36.120
You go into an old McDonald's with like the playground.
00:38:39.200
You feel this, this, the Nephilim spirit of Ronald McDonald.
00:38:47.500
There is something about that old structure that it, I guess, you know, you could have
00:38:51.660
a brush with the supernatural and it could be sort of negative.
00:38:53.840
Maybe that was nefarious under your bed, but it, that little touch kind of like gets
00:39:00.700
You're just thinking in a different, a different way about stuff.
00:39:12.480
Um, there are, there are events that happen in your life where like, you could see the,
00:39:24.800
And you can kind of like create like a thread through all these things, but the supernatural
00:39:28.740
events, unless you're willing to incorporate them into your worldview, they kind of sit isolated.
00:39:34.800
That's the mistake is like, you should look at these things and assess how they changed
00:39:40.640
your perception of reality and how they made the person that you've become.
00:39:44.280
Just like you would look at anything like trauma that happens in childhood or a good
00:39:48.000
thing that happens or a skill that you learned and how it carried you from here to there.
00:39:53.860
We push it away and it lives on an Island of experience all by itself.
00:39:57.600
And I know you said like, Oh, your testimony, you said it kind of sarcastically.
00:40:02.200
But like, I think that so many people have these experiences and they're off on an Island
00:40:12.140
And it doesn't, you know, go into the formula of how the man or the woman that you are today
00:40:20.520
And as long as you're pushing it off, I think it's crazy that it's that big of a formula.
00:40:24.020
Cause it's like a, it's like a 10 minute story realistically.
00:40:31.580
I mean, I'll have that, you know, I have people that were my blanket off, did it again.
00:40:36.740
And like, that's enough for me to start looking.
00:40:38.320
But it was just so wild that like, yeah, just such a weird thing.
00:40:41.640
It's like you're saying, like, if you don't have the, like, um, like a basis in, in the
00:40:47.460
truth, it's just some weird thing that happened that like, can't be explained.
00:40:57.160
It might be a spiritual realm, regardless of what people might think.
00:41:02.320
It's like, that's something that most people, and I can guarantee everyone, anyone who listens
00:41:10.960
And you just take it and you're like, I don't know.
00:41:15.020
But it's like, that's a thing that you should actually be taking in and then really using
00:41:20.260
Because if you do get down to the truth, if you watch this show and then like, we'll kind
00:41:31.820
I still have like, if you're seeking the truth, Jesus is seeking you.
00:41:34.940
So if you're seeking the truth, you're going to find it.
00:41:38.360
I, I, I have a guy that has been a part of, you know, one of my big experiences.
00:41:44.300
I haven't done it in, I don't know, I guess, I guess it's probably been close to 10 years.
00:41:52.720
But I haven't hit him up and been like, yo, do you remember?
00:41:57.620
I would do that like every five years, which at the time the event took place when I was
00:42:02.280
So every five years seems like a long time when you're 12 and then 17 and then, you know,
00:42:07.580
But I haven't reached out to him again in, in probably almost a decade, but I know that
00:42:12.060
every time I did, he was like, it was weird to watch the evolution of it first.
00:42:22.040
You know, I don't know what to make of that thing.
00:42:24.660
And then as time went on and I would reach out to him again, he'd be like, I don't want
00:42:30.620
You don't want to talk about it because it was bizarre.
00:42:34.440
It was, it's for, for, you know, the audience has heard this one before, but it was when
00:42:38.980
we saw this, um, the black baby, the black baby.
00:42:49.560
Uh, I was out in the woods one day with my buddy.
00:43:02.980
And, um, we were in the tall grass, like river reeds.
00:43:07.460
And really when the Creek wasn't full of water, it was just like mushy marshland.
00:43:11.860
And, uh, we're stomping paths through this tall grass.
00:43:15.320
And, uh, and all of a sudden, you know, it's, it's over our heads, the height of this tall
00:43:20.320
And, um, something starts coming at us, but it's in the tall grass and, and this path
00:43:27.900
Cause we're only kids stomping down the reeds and, um, it starts coming towards us.
00:43:32.740
We, all we have time to do is like recoil and grab each other.
00:43:36.160
And before I know it, this thing is now out in front of me on the path and it's not obscured
00:43:43.720
And it is, um, in my infinite wisdom as a 12 year old, it was a,
00:43:54.240
I mean, if I'm guessing it was like the size of like a four or five year old, unlike a
00:43:59.700
horse, huge cock crack pipe, um, it's not carrying anything.
00:44:11.920
And, uh, and it almost doesn't even care about us.
00:44:16.440
it like never minds us it runs out in front of the path and then disappears into the tall grass
00:44:21.420
you know on the other side and we i remember being so afraid i thought it was gonna be a dog
00:44:28.140
because it was something sizable moving towards us coming in the woods yeah i'm like we're about
00:44:32.100
to get mauled you know and um but it's it all happens in a matter of seconds it doesn't care
00:44:38.460
that we're there it continues to run and then we're just left with the sound of it slapping
00:44:42.200
its feet against the ground a giant cock grab dragging through the ground and it runs off into
00:44:46.680
this and and we recoup and we run we take you know we we haul ass out of there screaming we
00:44:52.500
burst out into the open our buddies are there we run right past and we're screaming we run down the
00:44:58.620
street out of out of the woods into a trailer park through the trailer park out into a park
00:45:03.540
and um before we finally like land in the grass catch our breath and then from then on out we're
00:45:08.620
pretty much telling a story every once in a while the time that we saw a naked black baby in the
00:45:14.600
woods and it wasn't until i was like 16 this probably would have been the first time that i
00:45:19.160
reached out to him and i was like i knew enough about babies by 16 that i was like it wasn't normal
00:45:25.840
that baby was fast yeah and it was naked and it was running that's so through the tall grass
00:45:31.700
you couldn't do that at you know because that's when i started to put together i was like i'm 16 years
00:45:36.780
old if i had to get naked and you were like run through that tall grass i wouldn't be very fast
00:45:40.360
no i'd be like oh oh yeah it's marsh it's there's there the river reeds when they're broken off at
00:45:46.280
their base they're just like spurs sticking out of the ground it didn't make any sense to me and i
00:45:50.920
can still i can't see it anymore in my head but like i knew that i could see certain things about it
00:45:55.580
like it was black like real black yeah and it was naked and then there was some things that i wasn't
00:46:02.480
too sure about like um uh was it like dry like it was ashy it was like like no cocoa butter was
00:46:12.020
involved in this scenario supernatural but theory now but i don't know if i saw that i just know i
00:46:17.160
know i saw something that was like four or five years old in height and it was naked and it was
00:46:21.960
real black like abnormal black dylan coming in he has the same sort of story he actually might be
00:46:26.780
here yeah well so yeah i mean we should but i you know just on that note it's like i i will
00:46:32.940
continually go back to that well and explore it and i'll go what was this thing and why did it never
00:46:38.820
leave my memory but if i go to him he's like no i don't want to talk about it yeah and every time i
00:46:45.060
touch base he got further and further from the story and to the extent we're like now it's just like
00:46:51.240
yeah i remember but no we're not going to talk about that i haven't reached out to him in a long
00:46:55.240
time but for me it's like i'll be forever fascinated by it and who knows maybe uh if if
00:47:01.660
god ever saw fit to inspire somebody to write about these things and it was ever my story it would be
00:47:07.200
like the time david saw a black baby and you know what i mean like this thing that i don't think is
00:47:11.840
is or some people he didn't think was super important it just sticks with me man and it like
00:47:18.340
changes your worldview pretty much forever stuff that like doesn't fit in what is like should be
00:47:23.880
normal i don't think we're supposed to forget it yeah i don't think we're supposed to forget it i
00:47:27.640
don't think that we're supposed to listen to that thing that says push it to the side i think that's
00:47:31.300
the last thing you're supposed to do i think you're supposed to keep that right there god gave you that
00:47:34.620
to i guess as a thing to go back to so when you get into that false ideology that like life is
00:47:43.040
materialistic yeah and normal god went no no it's not dude yeah just to keep you on your toes a little
00:47:48.040
but yeah yeah paranormal receipts paranormal receipts keep these receipts baby don't don't
00:47:52.920
ignore them don't ignore them i like that um well look man thanks for for joining us for sure uh it
00:47:59.000
was cool to have you come by we're gonna for the audience um i guess we're gonna pause this and then
00:48:04.860
we'll be back shortly uh i wish maybe we should end it you want to end it okay we'll end it guys stick
00:48:10.020
around um stick close to your patreons you'll get a notification we'll be back real soon we'll be back
00:48:14.820
soon guys see you in a couple minutes we're back guys uh if you saw that first conversation
00:48:18.820
with tory uh now this is the second half of the show and we're back in the studio with
00:48:22.880
dylan who's all the way from canadia correct canadia is correct canadia he came a long way
00:48:28.440
only only to do this there's no other reason that he's here in florida not a single other reason except
00:48:35.300
for coming here to talk on the on the show isn't that correct uh well canada gay is my home and
00:48:41.440
yeah but deep deep down and philosophically i resonate with the people of florida well it's
00:48:46.460
interesting because he he gives off very strong florida man vibes except for what he says about
00:48:50.860
and i go oh there it is yeah there it is i hear it i want to get out out of the conversation when he
00:48:55.620
does it like recoiling but um it's funny because you know you're in florida you got some some roots
00:49:02.620
here and then one of your stories is in new jersey which is where i'm from uh is that like a normal
00:49:08.600
thing you have you traveled a lot so yeah i have yeah i've been pretty blessed in that regard
00:49:14.820
kind of a free spirit i don't know how to put it in the least gay way here but yeah when i was
00:49:20.940
younger i was definitely cruising around um a lot of time in germany especially really yeah oh that's
00:49:27.300
interesting that's right you mentioned uh your wife from germany and yeah not wife not wife not wife
00:49:32.880
okay we're gonna park them on that okay that's fine i'll delete that from the my bad take that out
00:49:37.960
and nancy take that out of the record she's not here you don't have to take anything out
00:49:42.560
she's not we're going to bitch we're not even going to release this
00:49:45.180
so um yesterday we were here at the studio and you came by and we we chopped it up and it was
00:49:54.240
a fun conversation and then we were sitting outside with our social media manager not nancy
00:50:00.380
and she was saying she she was pointing a gun at us and she said there's a type of content you guys
00:50:06.340
have to make that is on the list because she organizes it all she tells us like the type of
00:50:10.100
thing that she wants to see us talk about or whatever we have to do it we have to do it or
00:50:13.800
else we take uh you know we get shot and so she goes i've been wanting to do this kind of on the street
00:50:22.220
interview style you know content with people that come in the shop which sucks i guess that's like a
00:50:29.840
lot of pressure right it's like i don't know i've been like just kind of going well you know because
00:50:35.100
that just means like we're going to ask some random person who comes in so you know on the
00:50:38.640
page made himself sick today i was well i drank a lot of nyquil really early and there's a whole
00:50:43.720
thing but um so so we said well she actually said she was like it sucks because it's dead here right
00:50:50.700
now and it was a guy in here before you guys are talking to would have been cool to do this before
00:50:55.640
and i said i don't know if he has any any stories or anything like that but yeah it would have been
00:50:58.840
cool because at least we know we're on the same page to talk to you right there she is with her
00:51:02.140
it's a live look at with her glock our social media manager damn uh we call her lady long arms
00:51:09.280
it's the same same lady yeah just mad looking there yeah she looks really angry um it's mostly
00:51:17.620
brazilian but then what ended up happening is like during that conversation you ended up walking
00:51:21.780
through the door again yeah and you were just coming by to say you know you know your goodbyes
00:51:26.660
yeah it's very like uh very serendipitous because he's canadian oh yeah yeah yeah i waited around
00:51:31.780
for two and a half hours i forgot i forgot i was all about saying goodbye and i totally forgot
00:51:36.380
i was actually out in the parking lot and my kids were diving into the hedges and swimming along
00:51:42.740
yeah and climbing the trees and i was like and i was standing there barefoot because i've been
00:51:47.300
hanging around 5g towers and airports you got to ground you got to be grounding i love it yeah i had to
00:51:53.200
i just felt obliged to and i was chatting up vanessa who's that interesting cat yeah yeah that's
00:51:58.620
right yeah it was cool um nice when you came in i asked you you know if you would be interested in
00:52:03.920
doing something like that did you see vanessa's episode yeah okay with parasites dude she had that
00:52:09.140
thing in the jar oh my god she didn't let us keep it right now we didn't know that'd be so cool
00:52:12.780
it was weird looking it was segmented i forgot to take a picture to show the people but yeah it was
00:52:19.220
not a hair if there was something to take a picture of that would be it you i'm guilty of
00:52:24.400
that though i don't do like if something cool is happening i rarely take a picture it wouldn't do
00:52:27.920
it justice it's like taking a picture of the moon and be like yeah look at it it was it was like a
00:52:32.380
hair and then there were these white fibers coming from the hair and the hair itself was like oily
00:52:39.260
segmented like there was like segments it was like a thick hair and then a slightly thinner hair
00:52:44.800
would come out of it and a slightly thinner hair would come out of that one and a slightly thinner
00:52:47.560
hair it was weird weird don't grow like that no shit don't grow like that um it's crazy and you
00:52:51.980
said yeah i do have some stories i wouldn't mind sharing so we start talking and immediately i'm
00:52:56.620
like oh dude like these these stories are are good for a one minute clip but they need to be we got
00:53:02.280
to discuss them typically i yeah as we're as we're getting the story from you tiffany's going
00:53:07.800
yeah yeah she's like wrap it up but afterwards she's like what what was that because what's really
00:53:14.460
funny is people don't know this about um tiffany the social media girl is that she's not from this
00:53:18.840
world at all she's from like a tiny home kind of content also like um real estate real estate
00:53:25.100
content fashion yeah you know skincare product type of thing whatever so it's fascinating having her sit
00:53:30.520
here and she's like well what are the nephil and we're like well sit the fuck down and you're telling
00:53:34.400
us your story and to us we're like yeah yeah yeah tracks tracks she's over there like what what is he
00:53:39.540
talking about we actually had this really funny moment where after you shared a story um you were
00:53:45.860
interacting with your kids so you're a little distracted in between stories and and she goes
00:53:50.120
it's so crazy that this kind of thing like happens to people you know what is it just like a thing
00:53:54.380
happens and i go not usually actually and i say what's what's pretty consistent is they'll have an
00:53:59.980
experience or two major ones and that'll be like the the real big ones but then they're they're
00:54:05.700
especially childhood is dotted with strange stories and you'll typically find out your parents
00:54:10.340
or your grandparents also had strange experiences or were involved in something and she goes really
00:54:14.940
and i go watch this and i ask you that question yo dylan dude that floored me and you were like
00:54:19.520
oh absolutely and she was like oh i'm like yeah i don't know what i don't i don't deign to understand
00:54:25.940
this but i do recognize yeah we know the we know the rules we know the rules yeah you do so yeah um
00:54:31.820
that's a rule i don't know which story we want to what we want to start with i do like the i like
00:54:37.940
the new jersey one i really like the new jersey one yeah so so let's revisit the new jersey story
00:54:42.980
and um and not have to worry about encapsulating it in a one minute and we'll act surprised
00:54:47.280
well i think we haven't heard it before promise okay uh so yeah this would take place i was on a
00:54:54.940
um a cooperative with my university on my final year i had gone down to actually modesto california
00:55:02.200
of all places the previous year and um this year i was anyway it's long story but i was recruited a lot
00:55:10.040
of people wanted to recruit me to go and do sales i can do door-to-door sales sales for what like what
00:55:14.040
were you anything man really yeah i've done fiber optic solar um security systems okay yeah so
00:55:21.980
anyway i was getting headhunted after i went down my first year i didn't really i was getting ripped
00:55:26.840
off by the company the whole time so i wasn't really making a ton of money so i was like oh i
00:55:30.140
guess i'm just like an average sales guy but my numbers were really good so then uh when that
00:55:35.520
company went under everyone tried to recruit us and i got pulled down to new jersey and uh actually
00:55:41.120
my friend owned the company and he owns a big company where i'm from now too so you were you were
00:55:45.560
living in california and then you were pulled to new jersey so you're living this is like i went back to
00:55:50.300
university and was being a university bum again for another year yeah yeah yeah just a useless
00:55:54.880
piece of skin and then i get a call a bunch of calls the following year like hey come down to
00:55:59.720
utah and we'll fly you down here and you can be a manager and we'll give you lots of money you know
00:56:03.380
that sounds nice it was dude like um yeah what's the catch yeah kind of like i was like because it
00:56:09.920
was a catch the first time around and that was i got ripped off huge but anyway um i was like sure
00:56:14.900
i'll come on down i knew the guy that had the business he was legit like you know it all paid good
00:56:18.900
i mean when i first got there i was doing the door-to-door thing very quickly i i just bought
00:56:24.420
a car and did my own thing but at first i had to get this is my first week arriving there yep actually
00:56:30.300
could even be the first or second day okay from arriving there i was dropped introduction to new
00:56:36.360
jersey by the way right i was dropped in my area because this is how door-to-door sales work you
00:56:40.740
everyone piles in a minivan they blast the hip-hop and they drop you off like mormon later it's like
00:56:45.160
mormonism yeah were you were you familiar with new jersey at all before this zero
00:56:49.300
it's very funny it is funny because it's like new jersey's like kind of new york but if new york
00:56:55.120
was a dirty highway well look i gotta defend new jersey because depending on where you go in new jersey
00:57:00.780
you might be treated to something pleasant you might be treated to something unpleasant you can
00:57:04.700
go a half an hour in one direction be in a hellhole city you can go a half an hour in the
00:57:09.160
other direction beautiful farmland you know woodland area a little bit further and all of a sudden
00:57:14.880
you're you know at the at the boardwalk in the jersey shore which is true but no matter where you
00:57:18.840
are in jersey you can see the garbage dump no matter where you are in jersey it always smells like shit
00:57:23.560
always smells like shit where were you and where did they drop you off well the place that smelled
00:57:28.640
the least like shit it was uh right next to princeton princeton's beautiful it was the princeton
00:57:33.840
area so it's west windsor so yeah okay yeah it's right beside princeton architecture uh the the
00:57:39.720
college there um you know a lot of old buildings it's it's a beautiful area princeton yeah we were
00:57:45.740
going around door to door knocking on these new developments we and it was like all indians oh yeah
00:57:52.060
living in these new homes with their whole family for several generations but like sandals on the front
00:57:57.280
porch yeah and i mean of course it's easy to knock the indians and i do it probably i don't know three
00:58:02.580
four times an hour but um nonetheless these guys had it figured out you guys have a big about you
00:58:09.580
have a big problem with indians in canada right censor my boots no no we're actually gonna raise
00:58:14.660
the volume every time yeah boost the volume on those please just bleep them out you guys have like a lot
00:58:21.020
of uh uh indians in your legislature i don't know anything is that true we got a lot of indians in
00:58:27.980
general man yeah okay new jersey is then mini canada because um after 9 11 bad time for the
00:58:34.660
seeks to be showing up because everybody was just like if you're brown you're going down but after
00:58:38.940
9 11 coincidence yeah oh yeah yeah um they all showed up and they all bought new developments the
00:58:44.880
biggest houses in town and they moved all their families in a million pairs of shoes on the front
00:58:49.760
porch so you know it was it was uh it was a cultural shock to live in uh where i lived i grew
00:58:55.760
up in an area called carterette um so yeah par for the course sounds like you are described in new
00:59:01.820
jersey yeah and i think i was here there right at the kind of precipice of that because that's that
00:59:06.700
was my experience most of my clients were were indians and they were going through the paperwork and
00:59:10.860
they're fine to work with like really the overall experience was quite positive really because
00:59:15.240
they haggle like no other um well a lot of what they were they were getting something for free
00:59:20.920
because basically the way the whole program was set up it was all subsidized by the government
00:59:24.600
oh so that's why you were they were your main client yeah yeah you got to get to finance for
00:59:28.460
fifty thousand dollars let's just do that but it's free and then it's free again right so it's a
00:59:32.840
little bit of like you know card play there but then um but you know they're they're looking at it
00:59:38.460
thoroughly and we figured it out together the whole thing was pretty good yeah but um yeah not to
00:59:43.980
deviate too much into into the business side but uh on my first couple days there i was walking
00:59:49.380
on my own like i was like i'd already made a bunch of leads and everyone's interested but you got to
00:59:54.840
get a bunch of paperwork from them and so it's kind of administratively burdensome yeah and so i'm
00:59:59.440
walking down the road going through my phone like a total normie just like yeah you know there was
01:00:04.380
no e-sign documents back then either no everything was like i even had a little keyboard on the
01:00:09.740
yeah that's right so it was like very cumbersome and as i was cruising up the sidewalk there's these
01:00:15.300
massive elm trees and probably like 15 20 foot spacing between each of them beautiful you might
01:00:21.320
say that this part of new jersey is beautiful the massive elm trees you know the big homes and it's
01:00:26.100
beautiful area would you call it that it was beautiful let him finish the story let him finish
01:00:29.200
the story yeah we'll get to that so it was a big uh on the far side of these trees was a big
01:00:34.480
cleared probably five acre space and a pretty for the area modest home there and so and i as i was
01:00:43.900
passing through as i was just about to come past one tree i saw an enormous black shadow with a wide
01:00:51.580
wingspan and it just i saw it kind of start to go like this and then i was like i felt my heart come
01:00:57.680
up and i was like what is that and then i had to like kind of psych myself up a little bit and i
01:01:04.420
looked around the tree on the far side and it was still coming down and it was a man a muscular man
01:01:13.240
black oily falcon eagle bird of some kind that's a crazy description i don't know how best to
01:01:21.300
describe it i mean that's that color of that bird like very very black it was like oil it was like
01:01:28.120
looking it wasn't a physical it was physical but it wasn't because actually as it came in
01:01:34.000
it was blowing back leaves and grass and debris and i was like oh my gosh this has physical presence
01:01:39.720
but it looks like it shouldn't be here it's funny as you're describing that feeling that i just had
01:01:46.140
that yesterday i was walking just minding my own business to the back of my property and my dog
01:01:52.060
came out of nowhere but it was like it was just turning dark and all you hear like
01:01:56.540
and that like i know i have a dog but your throat goes oh shit this is it is this it
01:02:07.300
it's like how's it gonna get me it's been good that that feeling of like
01:02:11.820
fuck yeah like i'm not scared but like oh man something's about to happen yes it's that that's
01:02:17.540
what you're feeling that was it okay that was it and it stayed at that kind of decibel
01:02:22.500
as i'm watching this thing come and then land and it lands without a sound and then it pulls its
01:02:30.720
wings in and that's that's one part i left it yesterday as it pulls its wings in i could really
01:02:35.800
accentuate the fact that this is like a muscular man that's what it looks like and it turns its head
01:02:41.460
to the side turns its head to the side yeah and uh it's got its hooked beak and a thick head
01:02:49.800
and it has a thick muscular composure and it probably stands six feet tall damn dude did you
01:02:56.700
how clear of a line of sight did you have to this thing this was again 60 70 yards non-obstructed
01:03:02.120
non-obstructed of totally open there's nothing there midday this house midday and this thing lands
01:03:10.480
and i'm looking at it and i can't tell if it's looking at me or not because it's just postured up
01:03:14.920
and i was like i guess i'll keep walking so i kind of kept my eye on it i passed by another elm tree
01:03:23.100
and as i was kind of passing through this next one to look over it took off again and it went up
01:03:29.180
and then it landed on the roof of the house what is this thing looking up looking like when it's taken
01:03:35.100
off it's like an eagle you know eagles are very impressive right like they're big and they're big and
01:03:42.720
hardy birds it's like that but six feet tall and black oil so what happens to the wingspan of a
01:03:48.880
thing that's six feet tall i mean an eagle's got a considerable it's got to be double right massive
01:03:52.960
it's got it's got a big wingspan but the wingspan it wasn't as kind of jarring to me as the physical
01:04:01.420
stature because as it stood now i'm not going to call myself six feet i'm not even five ten technically
01:04:06.420
but we can't tell yeah i can't if you said six feet
01:04:09.980
yeah um but yeah as it that's one thing that really struck me as i was like this has a physical
01:04:19.560
wow thank you matt that's so nice wow wait wait i had to pay for this one i know he paid for those
01:04:26.540
who paid for those adam i didn't get a state name adam dude i got my oh there you go yeah
01:04:31.320
matt coin you don't accept matt coin yet there's enough to go around guys if you have yeah if you
01:04:37.280
bring matt coin to the shop that's uh you get free you get free coffee with every matt coin
01:04:42.120
thank you adam did adam call thank you adam i don't know who adam is but he's bringing uh
01:04:51.740
tallow chips by the way these aren't even sponsored but these things are awesome yaka chips they're made
01:04:56.760
with uh beef shallow and they're delicious so thank you i don't know if adam's in the chat um oh adam
01:05:01.240
it's simma thank you simma simma um hang out we'll see you in a few minutes so so um that's interesting
01:05:08.860
because what you're saying is the musculature of this thing is more the focal point than the wingspan
01:05:16.240
even yeah it was like uh the physical because um i mean at the time i was hitting the gym a lot like i
01:05:23.880
was very secular of this world and very materialistic and pursuing money and going to
01:05:29.880
the gym and i was quite fit and i was like this thing stands with a similar composure and posture
01:05:36.200
to myself he was peacocking on you well it's like showing off if anything it was like it was mirroring
01:05:41.880
me like this could be you that's interesting right it's like this is like this is on par to you in some
01:05:50.060
regard do you i i don't want to detract from this but i want to be able to to kind of get into a nice
01:05:56.120
groove with the story and really like share all the details so in the spirit of that um i don't want
01:06:01.520
to rush this um you've heard the story maybe that i've told about seeing that thing and my wife saw
01:06:07.300
it and my son saw it it was muscular and it also kind of felt similar like it was mirroring me like
01:06:13.680
you know when you tell that story i picture the same build that because david has a very specific
01:06:19.620
type of build he i i make fun of his walk because he walks like this i don't walk like that he walks
01:06:24.720
like like his like a walk yeah he doesn't but when you tell the story i always picture it being like
01:06:30.120
you but way bigger it is that's what i remember it was it was like a monster like you ever seen
01:06:34.420
space jam and then like like the guys turn into the yeah they turn into big ones but you can tell
01:06:38.320
that it's still like yeah there was something about it that like when he used the the phrase
01:06:43.960
mirroring you i i would go as far as to say the same thing like this thing was mirroring me but it
01:06:51.400
was like imposing like like i remember you know you just think of in the realm of seeing something
01:06:57.220
out of the norm this is a supernatural entity right even if it's even if it's a natural being
01:07:04.120
which i'm not saying that it is but even if it's a natural one you're like this is above and
01:07:07.400
beyond what we've been led to believe exists within the natural realm still the thing that
01:07:12.840
stuck out as as notable to me was like this thing looks like it would be a problem like if you had to
01:07:19.300
tango with it like it looks like it is very strong very sturdy imposing like yeah so um that's just an
01:07:27.720
interesting thing because i that that actually resonates like with my own experience so uh yeah i mean
01:07:33.000
and you said it's skin skin i would not say skin you would not say skin no how would you describe
01:07:39.320
like the surface of it the surface was uh not just intangible but you couldn't perceive depth it was
01:07:49.140
almost like it was two-dimensional three-dimensional at the same time oh that's fascinating yeah like it
01:07:56.620
no that's the best way to say it yeah i think it's because i don't know like i feel like when
01:08:04.060
when they when they talk about these sort of entities and like light hitting it it's it's almost
01:08:09.220
absorbing the light so it's not going to reflect on it like yeah it's not going to add that three
01:08:13.080
dimensional yeah we have all these lights in here and they're on your face in a certain way so it
01:08:16.740
creates this depth of shadow on that side of your head so that people can see what your face looks
01:08:21.500
like if it was like full bright you would look very flat and if it was full dark obviously it'd be
01:08:26.980
black but if something is absorbing all of the light you're not going to get a good uh texture
01:08:32.660
or three-dimensional texture but i guess you're thinking that it's three-dimensional because it
01:08:35.720
did show you its profile right well the profile even then wasn't necessarily three-dimensional the
01:08:41.780
only thing that made me really feel the fact that it had a physical presence was the fact that it was
01:08:46.580
moving dirt and leaves as it was beating its wings i was like oh but would you say the sun has like
01:08:52.300
it's like no effect like light didn't have an effect on it no and come to think of it i don't recall
01:08:57.960
there being a shadow oh that's interesting it's almost like this thing is like stamped into reality
01:09:04.480
yeah there's yeah that's crazy yeah so so it takes off and it lands on a roof yes and this is like
01:09:14.960
it's very cool i wonder when this thing is moving around like i know no you said it earlier i don't
01:09:22.280
know if you said in this show but like it lands without a sound even though it's moving leaves and
01:09:27.760
it looks big as hell it's it's it's imposing like you're like this has weight it must but it's silent
01:09:34.060
yeah so it lands on this roof and and and then what it postures again it just turns its head
01:09:41.340
right and kind of like shows its thick pointed beak and just has this kind of proud stance and doesn't
01:09:50.260
move and at that point like i'm just taking this all in and i'm there's a part of me that's blown
01:09:58.180
away and i'm like fixated on it there's a part of me like let's get the fuck out of here yeah right so
01:10:04.340
i'm like i'm also going through this processing what's going on and then i'm at the same time like
01:10:11.400
walking away from it yeah until the point where it gets out of my line of sight and then i just start
01:10:16.320
running that's a fascinating uh aspect of being entranced by it almost kind of wanting to still
01:10:24.000
observe or like find out more and then it's being like do i want to yeah it's like two simultaneous
01:10:29.820
things let me ask you this did you get the feeling that if you were to run without breaking its line
01:10:34.260
of sight that it would have given chase god don't say stuff like that you know because i've i've been
01:10:41.960
in situations before um where not with like a supernatural thing but like me and my buddy
01:10:47.960
ended up in the wrong side of town one day and we triggered the awareness of uh basically a group of
01:10:54.780
black dudes at night i thought you were gonna say bears nope no black dudes and um and my they
01:11:02.320
they were talking shit to us and i was like talking to my buddy i'm like dude just keep moving just keep
01:11:07.180
moving there's like 10 of them there's two of us just keep moving and he's just like we should run
01:11:11.980
and i'm like don't run yet don't show fear it's not that you don't show fear it's like they they
01:11:17.920
started mobilizing and right now they're just kind of generally moving in our direction talking shit to
01:11:23.400
us that is true it's like they do almost want you to run if you run they're gonna know to run but if
01:11:28.520
we can break this line of sight turn around this corner and then run they won't know that we've
01:11:33.760
started running yet so they won't in other words we'll just be able to put more distance between us
01:11:37.940
and them if they see you running they're gonna take off at the same time so so they're probably faster
01:11:44.800
they're definitely faster they have an extra bone um and this is this is not this
01:11:51.420
but yeah i mean so given timothy alberino all the all the ammunition he needs has more than enough
01:11:57.760
ammunition to revoke our christian car but what i'm saying is what i did there was uh it had a
01:12:04.280
utilitarian purpose to it there was uh it was a tactic i'm dealing with something that like i'm now
01:12:11.420
in a prey situation and there's a predator and i don't mean to call black people predators but i'm
01:12:16.960
just saying that i'm trying to talk my way through this try hang in there with me listen to me all
01:12:21.080
right um it sounds to me like you were operating on on very much the same thing maybe you didn't
01:12:27.180
intellectualize it but it's like you didn't you did run but after you broke the line of sight yeah
01:12:32.820
eventually that that actually makes it i mean that's a small detail and maybe might seem insignificant
01:12:39.180
but like that's something that i've done when i was in serious trouble serious trouble serious trouble
01:12:45.400
yeah and and uh and they did give jace but you know that was a scenario where you behaved like you
01:12:52.480
were in serious trouble it felt like i was in serious trouble in some regards it felt but it felt
01:12:58.380
okay here's the other thing it felt powerful okay like it was blended with fear but it had
01:13:04.600
an element of power to it too and that's what's offered you know that's what as you guys know
01:13:10.780
right like it felt concerning and frightening but powerful and it felt powerful but it it didn't make
01:13:17.800
me feel like a mouse or something but i was i was afraid don't get me wrong but i was also
01:13:23.360
i don't know there was this kind of tone of of power behind it right an attractive type of power
01:13:31.160
kind of yeah that's interesting you feel in some way just talking to you now that this you know
01:13:37.580
you're using this expression it's mirror it mirrored you in some way shape or form this thing
01:13:42.780
it seems less like you stumbled upon something that was random or local yes exactly this is something
01:13:52.740
that like is associated with you and your your walk in life at that point and for whatever reason
01:13:59.080
you were able to see it in this town in this moment but it wasn't unique to that town or this
01:14:05.540
moment seems like maybe it was unique to you well was it i mean let him let's let him finish the story
01:14:10.720
well i mean the the story from there would be i'm calling my guys i'm like okay i'm done
01:14:19.160
like i'm done for the day yeah where do you tell them you say hey i saw a giant bird man i'm not
01:14:23.480
selling i actually was man i was like you know i mean like might it be cool after the fact to say
01:14:29.060
that i was all cool-headed like kept it by myself no man i was like blurting it out and i was in the
01:14:34.220
van and i was like i saw this thing like everyone no and i just met everyone oh that sucks literally
01:14:39.200
like a day or two before that sucks this guy's crazy shit i'm gonna work out with this new guy
01:14:44.420
no that's right and i'm like articulating it like i am now and they're like well this guy
01:14:48.940
sounds crazy by what he's saying but he's making sense with his words yeah he doesn't sound like
01:14:53.740
he's on crack yeah yeah so they're and then nobody really knew how to receive it and oh and yeah so
01:15:01.080
the other part of this was i go back to my apartment and i'm just trying to explain it to my roommate so
01:15:06.420
like i just met damn dude this sucks you're like out by yourself basically great time to do this to
01:15:12.960
you i guess so you know and then uh yeah my roommates one of them was like a legit on paper
01:15:20.520
genius guy and uh he at the same time it was either that day or the day before
01:15:32.680
and that was like that was a my head exploded yeah dude especially around i mean they went into the
01:15:42.860
uh calling christ like a recurring theme throughout history and that kind of the celestial crux and all
01:15:48.680
the different renditions uh osiris yeah so what's interesting is if you couple that with the with the
01:15:54.500
knowledge they give you of like how the financial system works which in my understanding is fairly
01:15:59.040
accurate yeah um you're kind of correlating well this is true so this must be true right and so it
01:16:04.480
kind of like okay well this thing with jesus being a recurring theme i was like that could be the case
01:16:10.160
i'm but i'm more fixated on the financial part of things and then i was because i was actually in
01:16:14.940
financial services at the time too so it's like life insurance mutual funds that kind of stuff
01:16:19.380
and um i couldn't go back to it like i was like this is so corrupt corrupt and immoral and like it
01:16:28.280
totally i was like it's interesting because it would move you that thing moves you away from
01:16:33.820
capitalism and the secular but without christ right right so it kind of drops you off the edge
01:16:40.180
with no lifeline for a young guy like me drop me off the edge and then i'm just traveling the world
01:16:46.360
after that um with the christ in my life just getting with women and yeah no foundation at all
01:16:56.360
no no 2007 zeitgeist the movie comes out it's a dangerous thing that people do and it's like
01:17:02.280
we were talking about christian nationalism with i was talking about that with matt yesterday on
01:17:07.060
straight bible the day before i don't know what day it is yeah i'll just be honest um and it seems
01:17:13.020
like the christian nationalist movement is now picking up these disaffected men that have the
01:17:17.200
same condition and it's not it's not necessarily the condition of like uh we broke your political
01:17:23.280
foundation but like i think society has broken them in a way and they're kind of like out there
01:17:28.560
they don't have any prospects there's you know no monetary prospects no female prospects out there
01:17:33.440
oh yeah so you have like a bunch of disaffected men they get swept up by the left a lot of them
01:17:37.800
and they'll they'll be in uh protest yeah yeah sure like the the like come here we'll just pat you on
01:17:44.960
the back it's okay if you're a homo and you're what if a man doesn't have an identity the left
01:17:49.300
starts grabbing them and now the right has started doing that you'll see andrew tate doing that but i
01:17:53.300
feel like that's also a christian nationalist grab as well and it's like i guess it's better than
01:17:58.620
nothing but are you really like leading them to the correct it's so sus man like yeah you know i want
01:18:03.820
to i'm so for the message that christ brings but i am not for public and popular culture anything
01:18:13.200
yeah as soon as it becomes well how do you blend jesus with the world and then you get this so
01:18:19.620
counter to the world yeah yeah and if and if you make him of the world well then you're you're losing
01:18:24.660
the message yeah it's it's hard because your walk with christ i think is is very unique and it's very
01:18:31.460
personal it's very intimate right and this christian nationalism thing that seems to be poking its head
01:18:37.100
up is not intimate or or unique it's it's a it's like a conglomeration it's like a an ideology to glom
01:18:44.840
onto and i think the problem is it's the same way the left can scoop up these you know disaffected
01:18:50.600
dudes is we have an identity in christ and that's why trying to understand who you are is like you know
01:18:59.440
you're gonna make movies about this shit like who am i i'm going off to find myself it's like one of
01:19:03.380
the big questions like what am i supposed to do who am i kind of a deal and the reason it's a big
01:19:07.340
question is because you do have an identity in christ um and if you don't find that identity
01:19:12.840
you're likely to just grab onto something that promises you what the next thing so it's like
01:19:19.520
you know for a lot of people religion strict religion like just just going to a church not
01:19:24.180
really walking with christ but like going and going through the motions well there's your identity
01:19:28.080
here's the things that you value here's the things that you're against here's your people
01:19:32.740
your tribe and the left is the same thing here's your set of political values here's your your the
01:19:38.820
things that you stand up against here's your people you even go a step further and you could
01:19:43.200
be a zimzer they them whatever so well what happens then i mean you have you have this shattered your idea
01:19:49.040
of how how things work so now you're like blank slate and you're traveling the world what happens
01:19:54.860
there you become of the world you know like you you're asking me personally though yeah uh so
01:20:01.100
i actually just become more uh hedonistic in the sense of um and i could be generational and i could
01:20:10.680
maybe tie that into the other story but um like i i struggled with lust and with women and so
01:20:18.480
um that's what i pursued yeah to great success and so um i thought that i had it all figured out
01:20:30.240
because i was like dating beautiful women and so if that's the mark of success you're hitting it
01:20:36.860
yeah exactly i was like why would i put in all the lag work and the time to build a business or to do a
01:20:42.460
thing when i could just take the guy's woman right right which is like and i was a and also
01:20:48.220
university you gotta remember i'm also being indoctrinated yeah with all that left-leaning
01:20:53.020
academic ideology not this i don't want to write everything about university off like i've learned
01:20:57.920
some some some interesting things but um one thing i dove into heavily was evolutionary theory and
01:21:05.420
evolutionary psychology and that became my framework for my worldview so evolutionary psychology would
01:21:13.840
just be on the pretense of we have a tribal subconscious and so we're constantly evaluating
01:21:20.940
based on hierarchical status yeah and adaptable traits and so and it made sense and it's hard to
01:21:29.140
say even now it doesn't make sense like i look like you can evaluate things from a mammalian
01:21:35.120
level sure based on hierarchy and things of this nature the same thing happens with with the with
01:21:42.020
the sex drive too because it says that we have a desire a genetic desire to propagate with young
01:21:47.240
and therefore it's totally natural to do that and then when you start looking at that as a natural
01:21:52.620
function of biology you go why fight against it that's true too i mean i wasn't gonna fight it i'd
01:21:58.780
rather know it intimately so i studied that and then i get into the venetian arts which is like
01:22:03.380
understanding how love and that would correspond and like you know how to how to have a higher
01:22:11.200
social status and have women find you attractive and what to say and what not to say and how to
01:22:15.560
posture yourself and like you guys know neil strauss in the game yeah remember that so like i was into
01:22:20.320
that what's that line of thinking uh it's a guy out of hollywood actually a jewish guy um jewish guy
01:22:28.600
out of hollywood sure it's a coincidence you don't say anyway is that is that what uh that
01:22:32.180
will smith movie is kind of like based on hitch uh i think so hitch is like the dating advice
01:22:37.740
movie kind of like pickup artist but really psychological that's right i like modeled my
01:22:41.400
my high school dating career after that the thing is like like you're saying successfully it works
01:22:47.040
these things work though because there is a priori truth to them but i don't know if we're called to
01:22:52.940
no we're not do those things but i but i do look at the world and i go that's that is also very true
01:22:58.160
like we have to take that into account but we're supposed to i think ignore those things and and
01:23:02.880
work in a different manner yeah well it's it's now i hijacked it as well that's the only manner i had
01:23:08.360
right right i was like desires of the flesh well that and this academic basis in evolutionary psychology
01:23:14.100
because i was like it tells you it's natural i mean these guys get paid lots of money i paid them
01:23:18.340
money to teach me and it seems to be working right and so it's like and christ is a recurring figure
01:23:26.020
throughout history that is probably a sham so i guess therefore i'm going to try to be top monkey
01:23:32.340
yeah sure so that's interesting top lobster the dominance hierarchy right yeah it's uh that's the
01:23:39.600
thing that i mean that's like where the name comes from and there is a truth to that uh with the dopamine
01:23:44.380
system of the lobster as they battle through lobster fights the the top lobster stands up
01:23:49.520
stronger and larger he appears that way to the other lobsters and then there's this air of
01:23:54.740
dominance or this facade it's it's actually kind of a little uh behind the scenes here what we've done
01:24:01.040
with the show and brohemia and grove we are not really that cool or that big this show but i told
01:24:07.100
david a long time ago if you appear this way then people perceive you that way and therefore then it is
01:24:11.720
true this is a principle that is true i don't think it should be abused but it is true it helps
01:24:17.020
to understand it it helps yeah it helps the nature of reality it helps understand the phenomenon so like
01:24:22.060
as we were doing those things like we're setting up these events i'm like number one keenly aware
01:24:27.240
i don't belong here we don't belong on stage with sam tripoli and owen benjamin all this shit we
01:24:32.180
don't that's not i'm just a guy that drives a truck but the people who are watching they don't think
01:24:38.000
that way so if i think that way guy sitting here doesn't think that way i approach you guys as a
01:24:43.600
humble shrimp right now that and that's weird because because like i've been fanboying i was
01:24:47.660
fanboying you yesterday yeah but we listen to your show from our perspective you show up and it's just
01:24:52.540
like oh cool homie showed up also here's a guy here's a guy with uh well so so you have this posture
01:24:58.620
of an eagle right or whatever but it's also a very successful dude so i'm looking at you as a
01:25:04.020
as a guy not in within this artificial podcast realm obviously in this realm you don't have a
01:25:10.100
podcast so you're nobody but that's not true i know what you do you come in here with two kids and
01:25:15.220
you seem like a successful dude with a good head on your shoulder so that's how i'm looking at you
01:25:18.420
yeah so the perception it's just but these things are just true perception becomes reality i don't
01:25:23.100
say it is reality it is reality unfortunately is reality is objective there needs to be a different
01:25:30.540
word for the reality that is subjective yeah the reality that one perceives when they look at a
01:25:35.020
thing and and they create a set of ideas within their own head about what they're perceiving
01:25:39.280
isn't actually true you know there is an objective reality but to understand that it is useful it helps
01:25:45.280
you to to navigate this thing and just don't start smelling your own farts because once you believe it
01:25:50.300
then then it becomes a problem then it becomes delusion and that's that's what the faith offers is that
01:25:54.700
humbleness and the lord knows i needed that yeah right like because i was definitely arrogant and i
01:26:00.860
still struggle with that too right because i'm not the best looking i'm certainly not the most athletic
01:26:06.060
but i mean i have been with 10 out of 10 really good looking women for a long time what actually is
01:26:13.980
like it makes you arrogant right and then like you win the business and yeah i got so much rather than
01:26:19.100
be arrogant i'm focused on i'm just replacing arrogance with blessed like the fact that i can
01:26:24.220
even come down here and chill with you guys and like take the time to do this like what a blessing
01:26:29.420
yeah be really grateful i'm so grateful that's yeah right like and that to me is closer to the truth
01:26:36.400
because the arrogance is a lie because it's like oh it's all about me and i made it it's like no dude
01:26:40.960
you were given this well that's the thing is uh it took me a long time to realize not a long time to
01:26:46.420
realize but i think a long time to start actually articulating it that like god allows you to do a
01:26:52.820
thing you're being allowed to do a thing any success that comes your way you know it feels good in the
01:26:59.560
moment but i think you have to give glory to god because if you zoom out you go oh the creator of
01:27:05.280
this universe that loves us and has created a way for redemption for us has allowed me to to experience
01:27:12.100
this thing and do i bask in the glory of you know my own farts or do i go wow look what god allowed
01:27:19.560
look at how amazing this is that god let me partake in this i'm incredibly grateful god likes hard
01:27:24.460
workers god likes people that that you know uh rise to opportunities or rise to challenges but
01:27:31.740
ultimately when you overcome a thing it's like look what god allowed me to do you know so yeah i think
01:27:38.740
that that gratitude is um you don't have that if you're full of pride and ego and you go look at
01:27:43.680
the thing that i've accomplished on my own you know laurels or whatever yeah yeah so um you had a
01:27:53.080
different experience and i want to get into well actually i mean there was something interesting that
01:27:57.940
you said yesterday as well with some research that you were doing um where you did stumble upon a figure
01:28:03.960
that was similar to what you saw yeah that's right and when does that come into play so
01:28:09.180
uh post zeitgeist post this experience actually you know what in reflection now it was very pivotal
01:28:19.400
because i went from superficial and money-driven to still superficial and money-driven but
01:28:30.280
it gave me a lot of depth and so i did start to go down all these rabbit holes
01:28:40.860
uh but while i'm going down like i was it wasn't long after that i watched like a six hour david ike
01:28:47.180
documentary and i was like right and so as i'm going down these rabbit holes i'm getting into
01:28:54.500
i'm flirting with some gnosticism stuff because that's where it all leads yeah yeah right so um
01:29:01.560
and part of that oh okay the guy's name john lamb lash is his name who's john lamb lash john lamb lash
01:29:09.580
is right the patreon dude he's a patreon dude i don't know is that the guy that you said you were
01:29:16.780
following on patreon recently no that's something so this guy knew john lamb lash john lamb lash is like
01:29:23.840
the grandfather of modern day gnosticism okay and uh you'd only find him in certain circles but
01:29:32.440
like the circles that know him know him kind of thing right and i just knew like he has a presence
01:29:37.520
too that's quite powerful no question and so i one day was perusing doing my own black pill research
01:29:45.320
this dude yeah that could be him okay it looks like somebody's into some actually why don't you
01:29:53.240
put in wetika war party okay that is what and it's very this is almost like too intimate for me to share
01:30:01.420
in public like i don't even i've only told a handful of people this story ever okay because this is like
01:30:05.960
but wetika war party yeah so this is a flag that he has behind himself in this video and i saw it
01:30:13.880
and i was like that's it that's what i saw in jersey meaning this eagle eagle yeah for lack of a better
01:30:22.160
word this man eagle yeah yeah and i don't even know if you can get an image i oh shit i just i put
01:30:27.280
wetika war party flag and it came up as a nazi flag i don't think this is it uh
01:30:31.700
no he does he's got a strong um that kind of makes sense yeah like the overlap in the paganism
01:30:40.500
and the gnosticism yeah i'm not overly familiar with his philosophy but i did listen to some of it and
01:30:45.040
it's it's kind of like the burning bush with moses he thinks was when nanotechnology came from that bush
01:30:55.560
really and then went into his his nose and ears and affected the entire israelite tribe to become
01:31:02.860
the conduit it's a sentient carbon yeah that's right like black dust black right yeah kind of
01:31:09.180
thing so this is when it infiltrated the israelites and they became that's fascinating the uh weapons
01:31:15.880
of the enemy effectively the enemy being like the demiurge like an ancient ai how do i spell how do you
01:31:22.900
spell wetika this dude's been spelling it in different ways w-i-t-i-k-a because i'm i have
01:31:29.000
some indian stuff pulled up here i'll show you but i don't think this is it it's just people taking
01:31:34.040
dumps in the street oh oh that kind of indian no no okay you could put john lamb lash war party
01:31:42.560
okay well we'll we'll we'll come back to that so go ahead sure so so you're saying he has this idea
01:31:49.120
that's a fascinating idea because that does plug into the demiurge which is right probably the apex
01:31:55.200
of the gnostic principle and then um in recent decades there's been this real um integration of
01:32:03.920
the idea of like ancient ai that that this demiurge is ai that's trying to recreate itself and that's
01:32:12.060
yeah you get the black goo you get this sentient carbon um that you know kind of is the the
01:32:18.920
rudimentary form i would say that's probably like the the most the simplest form of it oh this is
01:32:23.660
the guy this is the guy for sure because uh was humanity infected with the mind virus it's actually
01:32:28.500
it's kind of interesting um it is certainly interesting yeah so there's a flag behind him
01:32:33.480
in some at some point there it is oh shit there's the beefy oh look at that okay hold on we have to
01:32:40.260
big screen yeah can you make a big screen on for us too because i want to see that like yeah just
01:32:45.040
give me a second i'm gonna blow this up that's like a that looks like a buff man eagle what the hell
01:32:49.860
okay that's kind of crazy and he's giving the profile view just like that so he had his wings
01:32:58.600
talked more but it's the same broad shouldered like this would be a slightly different posture but this
01:33:05.980
is that's a man eagle it's a man it's got shoulders like it's this thing's got it was a deltoids like
01:33:11.380
that's that's a so what is he saying about this thing uh you know what man it actually kind of
01:33:15.960
freaked me out a bit where i didn't even get into it really yeah like this is i can see that yeah
01:33:20.960
like i was better left on unchecked i unchecked that one yeah because like i read some of his
01:33:26.080
material i went through some of it and it's like he was on calica calica war that's why it's all
01:33:31.000
i was thinking because i you can see here i have on my screen pulled up the uh the ancient arms of
01:33:35.900
the roth child so it's their their family crest and you'll see this hold on a second right i know
01:33:41.480
you don't want to look at this stuff but now we're kind of into it he's like i didn't come here to be
01:33:45.780
this is uh by memories of the eagles dude holy shit the calica war party that is the i wonder what
01:33:53.420
these points are on it that they're symbolizing you guys have a black proof vest here no we don't in
01:33:59.440
fact we have a lady that's been showing up outside the the thing and we got a smoke machine
01:34:03.380
that we're afraid to turn on that's really it yeah that's about it or we don't want to get the
01:34:06.780
the thing set off so so uh that almost looked like a constellation those points right yeah that's an
01:34:12.360
interesting there's some dude he's got some deep gnosis no question um and actually my my pastor back
01:34:20.540
back in nova scotia said to me because like i've been down some rabbit holes right and i'm trying to
01:34:26.660
bring these things across to him because he's like he's a brown belt in jujitsu and he's he's
01:34:31.800
pretty accomplished he's got a good church and he's young he's like our age okay and uh but yeah
01:34:39.280
when i was i bring this kind of information to him and he's like yeah yeah there's a lot of gnosis
01:34:43.380
there's a lot of wisdom that's offered oh yeah was it earned like did you earn it or did you
01:34:48.100
bargain for it shortcuts to wisdom are never the way right never the way right and i think that
01:34:54.480
it makes me think about it i'm like how many shortcuts have i taken right because i'm almost
01:34:59.700
like like my life isn't all roses right like i might be here and blessed and grateful but like
01:35:06.020
i struggle in other ways and i'm like maybe it's paying my penance for going down all these rabbit
01:35:13.100
holes throughout the years i have no idea yeah imagine like you show a kid you know you show a
01:35:17.620
child something that they weren't ready to learn what kind of effect does that have on how they perceive
01:35:22.760
everything else going forward this hyper complex thing and you go here you go with the limited
01:35:28.380
tool bag that you have yeah let's see what a mess you make of this here's a bird made of oil what do
01:35:32.780
you think about it here's a bird made of oil you got to fly down to florida to talk to anyone that
01:35:37.180
makes sense to them yeah like there's how many people am i gonna throw it with well they're gonna
01:35:42.720
give me the time and actually massage this out because this is a topic dude and i'm learning a lot
01:35:46.760
myself right now i mean like i said it is something that shows up on a lot of flags um yeah and i'm
01:35:53.460
looking at the rothschild's you know coat of arms so maybe i'll type that in top uh rothschild's crest
01:36:00.300
family crest yes sir and you'll see that uh nancy pull that up and um you know it's definitely not the
01:36:07.180
same visage as like a buff but it is a black eagle and um i wonder in in in the wild how often that
01:36:16.160
kind of thing i mean i know a black eagle does that even exist in the wild yeah well at the very
01:36:21.100
top here that's like an eagle but it's a plume serpent more like um i guess there is one bird of
01:36:26.940
prey there's a black eagle yeah yeah there you go you've got top left and the very top man the rothschild's
01:36:31.520
can't really decide which gods they're they're worshiping so like all of them this um this thing's
01:36:37.320
was it also black yes everything it was all solid solid solid yeah the closest thing is that that war
01:36:46.800
flag that i've seen we got it we will we'll do some more research into that and uh take a look
01:36:53.600
especially this episode with this dude here in this vitica war tribe i don't i don't doubt that a lot
01:36:59.460
of your audience is probably already familiar oh yeah i know i'm not too it's too bad like when we have
01:37:04.180
an in-person guest like it's hard to look at the chat and i don't i don't want to look at it later
01:37:08.900
like no whatever they say is going away now yeah it goes away after they they they can comment on it
01:37:14.460
post um can i plug myself right now yeah yeah plug away cool don't uh don't subscribe uh don't look
01:37:21.720
for me okay but i am on the patreon with these guys oh somewhere okay what's your name on there i don't
01:37:27.920
know great plugs well i mean it's it's an interesting thing because if anybody has anything
01:37:35.440
to say you know what we'll do is like we'll figure out i messaged you this morning exactly so we'll do
01:37:40.660
that on twitter you did no on i deleted twitter i told you oh that's right yeah because it's a
01:37:44.840
shithole yeah i couldn't handle all the black men beating on white women and yeah different angles so
01:37:50.400
many such cases many such cases yeah guys i mean well i'll just put it out there if anybody has
01:37:54.600
anything that's actually valuable um i could i could always convey some messages or put you in
01:37:59.340
touch with somebody but yeah a lot of the times the chat's smarter than we are uh i know it's
01:38:02.960
frustrating for them because we're sitting here doing the show and they're in the audience screaming
01:38:06.320
about our lack of gnosis um i'd love to join them sometimes yeah dude you got to get in there i mean
01:38:14.000
it's a it's a great community but i don't know if it's uh if it's the healthiest place to be
01:38:17.960
until you know i mean if you're grounded in christ and it's just fine yeah these people
01:38:21.860
everybody's just like swimming in their own gnosis soup one foot with the lord and then another foot
01:38:28.100
with big black eagles i love this this is how the chat operates they go chat is that true chat is that
01:38:32.200
true are we all crazy is that true chat all right so i'll use it as a google basically what i'm doing
01:38:36.700
the raven we also we have a second story as well yeah let's get into that i want to get into after
01:38:40.620
that actually let me finish that batika war party yeah oh yeah so they uh
01:38:45.320
yeah that bleeds into um the experience i had the only other time i was a patreon member
01:38:53.460
and right that was with a channel called the gnostic takeover that's right yeah you were and they kind
01:38:58.720
of came on the scene uh right when covid kicked off and he was a 5g activist in austria so basically
01:39:08.540
saying like the towers are bad and i remember actually in my hometown in brooklyn when when they
01:39:14.280
shut everything down no one was allowed to work i was allowed to work because i was a mta guy so i'm
01:39:19.400
building the tracks i was essential yeah me and then like down the block on the main avenue on
01:39:24.600
garrettson road the only other people that were out and working were people putting up 5g towers
01:39:28.300
so crazy how many of them went up going crazy that's a coincidence they're essential they're
01:39:33.700
essential dude really important something happened there and i don't know what i don't know i'm you
01:39:39.020
know what i'm glad i just want to say as a brief aside i'm glad that the lord made me
01:39:42.540
too stupid to understand beyond like where i got you know i got up to like a lot of these concepts
01:39:48.460
and then i was just like i would look at them and they were just too too many words to read and i'd say
01:39:53.600
not for me and then i'd pull away from it and i'd go someplace else and you know uh never never went
01:39:59.180
down anything too far i don't think any rabbit holes uh in that regard so this was not the case with
01:40:04.820
this guy there you go yeah so he was on he was on some bigger shows like he was on alpha vedic do you
01:40:09.620
know those guys no uh alpha vedic you said is this a channel here
01:40:14.480
oh he doesn't do any video oh no that's that that was yeah the gnostic takeover yeah so they um
01:40:21.500
they haven't had anything about it looks like since he died no i think someone
01:40:29.540
but uh yeah this this guy here um and he had another guy with him and um they they had a strong
01:40:40.780
testimony that they were giving around covet that they were using ayahuasca that their torah which
01:40:46.580
is like a derivative that gets added to ayahuasca to 10 exit right yeah and uh it's not enough not
01:40:54.260
enough right 10x the length or the experience experience and it's like it brings people to
01:40:58.940
to death's door really and it's ruled by a witch is how cool yeah it's anyway they're sharing but
01:41:05.440
they're coming back and doing is that mother ayahuasca or is that like a different it's more
01:41:09.120
intense like i don't know like i've never i've never done it myself so i'm really just speaking
01:41:14.520
out of third-party experience here but right i did witness them on live streams like right after
01:41:20.040
these experiences and they were the things that was flowing from them in their live streams
01:41:24.780
was like you could cut it with a knife it was just so rich in wisdom it felt like it was just the way
01:41:31.180
they were coming across the gravy was flowing it was a different kind of gravy yeah and uh i followed
01:41:37.420
these guys for even a number of years and they're and they're they're out of sorts though like they
01:41:43.300
were kind of like they found this woman and they saved her from a house of satanists and they
01:41:48.100
live streamed like right after it happened and they were talking about it and they did a uh ceremony
01:41:52.700
in the house and all the pipes started to bang on the walls and people started like falling over and
01:41:59.140
and like writhing on the ground dude we gotta watch this what are we doing it was this it was like
01:42:04.080
spiritual warfare without christ and this is a thing sons oh yeah of course that's a thing it's a thing
01:42:08.820
right so they were fighting yeah in this spiritual realm i'm thanks thanks alberino but yeah um they were
01:42:15.640
fighting it was you know it was local to the consciousness and it was it was a perception
01:42:19.900
yeah i'm gonna pull my gun right now stop it maybe a dreamscape is a better yeah i'm not just that guy
01:42:25.360
he sounds really smart but super smart um but yeah anyway they were sharing these really intense
01:42:30.560
experiences where i was kind of like and i hadn't found christ yet and i was like whatever they're up to
01:42:35.260
they're winning in the spiritual and i know this is spiritual because i know how dark it is
01:42:38.940
and they were making some momentum and they really wanted to bring it to the world but
01:42:42.460
i also watched him descend into madness and eventually he becomes high on his own supply
01:42:47.860
and he and the woman who he saves with her child she had her child with her geez their child i'm
01:42:54.500
watching on a live stream the police break into their apartment and take the child dog what is
01:43:00.720
happening they don't get the child back how are you entertained by this show yeah i know like
01:43:05.560
what are we talking about has been dead for a year but this is like getting police raids we're in here
01:43:11.940
with brown water that's insane i'm burying the lead here but yeah go ahead go ahead so i'm trying
01:43:18.640
to summarize like watching this guy over the course of a number of years but and then he it just kind
01:43:23.220
of like and i was even messaging a little bit i've always been very passive i've never actually engaged
01:43:28.340
in the live chat so much or like i'm not this is my first time on a podcast like i'm not yeah i'm the
01:43:33.120
guy that's been listening for like 15 years right right right that's the thing there's a lot of and
01:43:37.820
there's a lot of you out there they're in that little chat box no they're not in that chat box
01:43:41.860
listen no those people aren't passive at all they're aggressive there's about a hundred crazy
01:43:45.760
people that that are here all the time and we're doing it live and we know the names and they
01:43:49.460
interact but but then when we look at the numbers oh yeah there is a do you trust the numbers like i
01:43:55.000
don't trust anything that i see on the screen i'll so here's what i'll say easily a hundred thousand
01:44:00.300
other people are definitely listening that's just like that's an extreme that's probably
01:44:06.060
let's say 20 of of the the numbers that they're giving us i'll say that there's a probably like
01:44:13.200
a hundred thousand people actually listening because i know that they can't fluff the numbers
01:44:16.900
that badly so if they are rumble does it what do i do with my hands
01:44:21.020
no but i'm saying there's so many people that are just they listen and i used to do the same thing
01:44:27.620
the vast majority of people listen i'd be like man that's so fascinating and then i think about
01:44:32.560
reaching out or and then i just don't i'm just like i'll like to hear the next episode and i i would
01:44:38.560
love to hear from these people um these people those people i mean these people they them no we got a
01:44:44.580
few they them uh i mean the analytics say there's at least a few they them so many people like you
01:44:49.180
who just passively listen all the time and i'm like i just wonder what they're thinking about
01:44:54.740
what's happening there's everything like a passive listener is seeing a eagle man yeah no they are
01:44:59.420
though that's why they're here listening yeah because they you you guys all share this the same
01:45:03.540
kind of experiences in some sort of way that attracts you to this but they'll never communicate
01:45:07.660
and that's like i guess it's a call out for you guys reach out but don't visit and show up don't
01:45:13.500
don't yell just don't stand outside the shop and yell yeah don't try to touch them i got in trouble
01:45:17.480
you can't see that because of the way the screens broke up but there's actually a safety plexiglass
01:45:24.300
between he's in a box um so so you said that you know you're watching and a raid is kind of a raid
01:45:32.360
right they're taking it was a raid and i saw the police in behind him and the and the screen was
01:45:37.020
like and then it froze and then he was trying to he was calling out for help and like wow i was at
01:45:42.100
i was like i don't know i was doing like a development project with a friend of mine and
01:45:47.400
i was like trying to interview people as tenants for his apartment i love i see how fucking crazy
01:45:52.060
that is there's a guy i gotta be professional there's a i know but i'm saying he's making
01:45:56.200
like business deals there's a dude in new jersey who's a dentist shout out to that dude oh yeah yeah
01:46:00.100
yeah uh my my wife's uncle was like i was at a bible study and they started talking about podcasts
01:46:05.860
in the christian realm so i mentioned nds and he like when i was i was hanging out with him he knows
01:46:10.240
me as like a retarded person so i was telling him like this is what i do and he brought it up and
01:46:15.200
someone's like oh yeah yeah i know i know those guys i love those guys and he's like this dude's
01:46:19.000
a dentist like this guy who are we talking to this guy's listening to us in his headphones while he's
01:46:23.180
in a man's mouth that's a bat that's a batman shit right in a man's mouth right yeah listening to
01:46:27.920
this conversation as a wild reach out people we want to know about you this is dangerous yeah be
01:46:34.040
careful i just opened up the box but you said that this guy is descending into madness more or less
01:46:39.460
what does that look like well it looks like like they're touring around as a group and the group
01:46:45.120
slowly breaks apart like she has her child taken and their other guy uh i don't want to say his name
01:46:50.780
because he's a pretty pretty intense dude himself i mean if you do enough research you'll find out who
01:46:54.880
i'm talking about um but he's he's a he's a presence and uh he ends up getting picked up by the
01:47:02.500
police as well and taken back to his country wow so and then he's on his own with this woman with no
01:47:08.200
child and they're and he's very paranoid like he's saying that everyone is like a controlled agent and
01:47:15.240
he's seeing like gang stalking he's seeing agents everywhere and everything is satanism and they're
01:47:21.220
watching you through this through the clouds and like and the thing is is like he's res and he's a
01:47:26.900
quite intelligent guy and he's putting it across in such a way where you're like maybe probably right
01:47:31.660
but like fiber optics but we just can't perceive it like right you know i'm like shit he's probably
01:47:36.640
right he's thin the veil too much in the veil and he's you know but at the same time he can't exist
01:47:41.760
anymore in this realm and so that's an interesting concept dog you're like you get to know too much
01:47:49.780
about how like you know the sausage is made now you can't exist in this realm the same way well this
01:47:56.060
is why this is why we operate the show the way we do because like we're constantly touching that
01:48:04.640
touching the sausage and every time we're about to learn how it's made we're like no no no but if
01:48:12.640
you if you don't approach it with i guess humility but like realistically it's it's comedy that's like
01:48:17.800
the crutch we lean on to to look at these things yeah were these guys funny
01:48:22.020
no you know you can't be if you get to that realm that part you can't be funny no they were without
01:48:29.060
without comedy without christ too like there was um there was actually an aversion he actually studied
01:48:37.720
john lamb lash that's how i'm tying this together um and he was kind of a proponent for him he studied
01:48:44.700
a lot of david ike stuff uh he was a mathematician so he's like actually smart not just like good at
01:48:51.680
sounding good on a microphone yeah yeah so um and so he was a really impressive cat he spoke a few
01:48:58.840
languages um and i've prayed for him since i hope that he found his way
01:49:04.880
where he should go back to the father i hope they'll get there man yeah i know now you have me
01:49:14.660
interested but this this also might be a trap yeah well i mean i'm like a trap you bro no no no
01:49:20.760
not just in the traps you're a top lobster yeah i eat a lot of lobster run from it by the way how
01:49:26.780
dare you it's like a cultural they're just ocean bugs they're ocean bugs they are delicious but yeah
01:49:32.120
it's it that that's the box right now because like i'm having this idea of like i kind of want to see
01:49:36.660
what happened here but i think this story is going to be the same i don't know i don't know
01:49:43.360
same as what same story that we see played out all the time it's just yeah it's like people peek into
01:49:49.840
the veil too much they go mad and then it's like even though they go mad you're kind of like well
01:49:55.900
what the hell did they see yeah you know but i think if you're not grounded in christ it's just
01:50:01.240
it's an exercise in leaning on your own understanding and this is something i've been talking about a lot
01:50:05.980
on the show lately where it's like we're so limited we're only here for such a short amount of time
01:50:09.980
i like saying we're spiritually outgunned oh yeah oh yeah i i keep going back because i read a little
01:50:17.540
bit of a thing and then i can't stop citing it um over and over every episode but um the the story
01:50:24.760
of job in the bible where you know towards the end of the that book god's asking him you know where
01:50:30.420
were you when i laid the foundations of the earth like what do you understand what could you
01:50:35.140
possibly understand you who are here for such a brief amount of time who is limited in so many
01:50:41.040
ways unable to observe this phenomenon you know we only brush up against it and it the veil pops open
01:50:48.220
and some greasy boogeyman pops out and it entices us to go down this you know this this gnosis hole
01:50:55.760
and i think that um you know obviously it'll it'll drive you mad but what's almost worse than than
01:51:04.480
losing your mind i think is is thinking you have it thinking you have it figured out you know so it's
01:51:10.860
like and there's that arrogance again there's that arrogance again yeah look at me and my infinite
01:51:14.700
wisdom um i don't know i mean i've been talking about a lot it is the slippery slope of even conspiracy
01:51:21.680
theories because there is a pride and arrogance that comes with being like you know i want to pat
01:51:28.400
myself on the back because i i stepped the right way in 2020 because i saw this thing coming and i
01:51:33.300
didn't do that and while everybody did the wrong thing i did the right thing therefore you know good
01:51:37.880
on me maybe you should listen to me i'm like you know how i'm so guilty of taking that tact it's hard
01:51:44.140
man it's hard not to because it's like because like if you're gonna tell them if you're wearing a mask
01:51:48.100
at all yeah i really don't even want to listen to you like i'm as i'm trying to be a good christian
01:51:54.500
and pray for you but i really your opinions and like what you're they don't matter yeah yeah i can't
01:52:01.820
pretend they matter i can't i gotta be authentic and a discerning father and i don't even want you
01:52:06.100
around my kids like your time is my time's limited so like you're telling me right there that
01:52:10.280
a lot of what you're saying is not qualified yeah so i kind of have to protect my it's a stereotype
01:52:15.800
right you know you gotta cross the street at certain times well that's the thing though we
01:52:19.780
we do that we fall into that trap and that is a trap it is because i mean we made and you know
01:52:24.900
and i'm all for the racial slurs and stuff like i have a lot of fun i'm very good friend of mine said
01:52:30.180
i don't care what race you are as long as you're racist that's right yeah that means as long as you're
01:52:36.900
a high level pattern recognizing i want to give a quick show because like i might drop racial slurs on
01:52:40.980
the show now or some point in the future but uh it really is low on the totem pole like it's it's
01:52:46.220
kind of in line with that evolutionary mammalian thinking where it's like yeah us versus them and
01:52:51.180
they do this all the time and it's like yeah but i'm honest like two of the most impressive women
01:52:55.900
i've met in my life are black women with half white kids like that's a real wad dichotomy for me who
01:53:02.060
wants to be like a white christian conservative kind of bro you can see it's it's attempting yeah but i'm
01:53:07.660
so impressed by these two women one of them being in florida in fact oh okay yeah and i hope to meet
01:53:12.000
her and her brilliant successful christian family here yeah you know so on the flip side of that if
01:53:18.040
you ignore the stereotype you can get yourself in a lot of trouble yeah it's you're damned if you i mean
01:53:22.920
listen one of the one of the best contributors to this show is ed mabry oh yeah you know it's yeah so
01:53:29.540
as much shit as like as like we joke and we talk about it's like the truth of the matter is like yeah if
01:53:33.800
you're if you're operating in that way where you actually believe it like we aired the episode with
01:53:38.280
jonathan shelley today where i'm like i think this guy actually believes it which is kind of like
01:53:41.840
it's entertaining for me like like when he's talking about like you know people gay people
01:53:46.640
things like let's not get this i don't want to do too much editing on this episode but it's like
01:53:50.540
or like like what we should do to them i was like yeah verbally this is like provocative and fun
01:53:55.600
but i'm looking at him i'm kind of like oh you believe in i'm like oh this is fascinating to me
01:54:00.260
like you actually do believe this like because i don't necessarily believe it i think it's it's
01:54:05.960
fun and i think it's a good way to like open up conversation and really like break the ice yeah
01:54:10.720
break the ice also it's a good uh way to push people out like if if people if your your mindset
01:54:16.320
is already like we can't say certain words like perfect perfect go over there yeah we're having
01:54:20.360
like you know very good point it thins the curve but i've said it before conversation you know if you
01:54:24.300
if you gave me a choice where it was like you know if god came to me and he was like all right
01:54:29.240
i gotta make like 10 000 people but i can only make one of each kind it could be 10 000 more
01:54:36.080
people like you meaning myself or 10 000 more people like ed mabry oh yeah i'm gonna say
01:54:41.200
every time i'm gonna say make 10 000 more ed mabry's every time so there's not enough hot dogs for
01:54:46.560
the hot dog supply um all right so so uh i don't know do you have anything else to say on this on this
01:54:54.480
sort of gnostic journey or do you want to get into these other stories i mean we can pin it for now
01:54:58.800
let's pin it for now because i have a feeling it's going to come back up and um you said something
01:55:04.160
interesting to me out in the shop when i asked you if if there was any sort of like anything that you
01:55:09.000
would label as generational and that seemed to resonate with you yeah so before we even get to
01:55:13.560
all that stuff let's talk about this this other story with the uh farmhouse so okay we'll do the
01:55:20.140
farmhouse but i'll give the context from the generational okay great yeah okay so it's not directly
01:55:25.000
related but it's not unrelated i don't think okay it's hard to say it's fair so we're i'm only second
01:55:33.060
generation canadian my heredity would go all the way to norway at one point and but from norway to
01:55:42.700
england and nautical people so people of the sea and my uh my grandfather was a diver in the uh
01:55:52.000
the royal navy okay during the war and so he came over here and uh here being nova scotia
01:56:00.740
brought his family uh and became a man of the cloth but also a man of high regard i think he was a
01:56:08.380
colonel in the navy and he became uh head of the diving in all of eastern canada so yeah so he's like
01:56:18.240
the guy this dude's hustling yeah so he's like the guy and uh and he acted like the guy like when
01:56:25.360
you hear about the patriarchy and this is like he was the page he is the good the bad and every bit
01:56:31.000
of it look at me i am the patriarchy now like he had never he was always served and he wouldn't
01:56:35.620
expect it any different he'd be sitting at a restaurant and if they if he wasn't satisfied
01:56:40.260
with the service in the first 10 minutes they'd already have the bread and wine art he'd just get
01:56:43.380
like like he was just like that's great yeah he was um and he was feared and revered like beat the
01:56:50.820
crap out of my dad they had to make their bed and stand at attention in the morning like ran it like
01:56:56.100
a like scared the crap out of him i want my kid to hear this part of that but anyway he was old
01:57:03.100
obviously quite a bit older and a lot some of the winded got on of a gun out of him by the time
01:57:07.980
he was a real influence in my life but i i think that him getting that high ranked and he also got
01:57:17.060
and here's the other thing i don't know all the details on this it's one of those threads i haven't
01:57:21.620
pulled out but there's you know how that area of 51 or whatever they got like a little cheap shop
01:57:27.940
that like you can buy like fake yeah we got one of those i believe it's called shad bay but it's a bay
01:57:34.660
in nova scotia where there was a downed craft oh okay so it's like an alien themed yeah yeah i passed
01:57:41.780
that on my way to vegas yeah like that so they have that and he was the head of that oh wow really
01:57:50.440
he had to go and dive for the craft oh like or be part of that team really to pull it out yeah so
01:57:56.580
hold on a second this is the craziest shit in the world because i'm like do you think there's any
01:58:00.340
generational things he's like well my grandfather retrieved a shag harbor ufo incident that's a
01:58:06.260
shag that's a little bit um that's not unrelated as you said i don't think it's hard for me you
01:58:14.900
know i'm too much of a conspiracy theorist think things aren't related well look i you know just
01:58:19.160
like i said to tiffany the social media manager that is a pattern that is consistent throughout
01:58:25.680
experience or testimony whether it's abductee testimony or just any sort of supernatural
01:58:31.360
you know thing it rarely happens in a vacuum and when you get to asking people they go
01:58:35.680
well yeah um a few other things happen too and you go well what about like your parents or
01:58:40.360
grandparents well yeah uh it turns out they've had some strange experiences too so it's i would say
01:58:47.180
unlikely that you're gonna ask somebody about their strange experience and they're gonna be like
01:58:51.500
nothing ever happened before and nothing ever happened again since it's like no there's something
01:58:56.500
weird and it also goes back to like parents and grandparents i wonder if it's weird for everyone
01:59:01.920
and it's just kept in the closet i don't know um there are there are times when i've talked to people and
01:59:08.220
you could see just the look on their face like like tiffany for example she'll maintain that nothing
01:59:12.100
has ever happened to her so the question i guess becomes has a thing happened to you but you
01:59:16.940
shelved it to such a degree that you have no ability to recall it yeah or is it just that some
01:59:23.800
people can move through this life on harm and never have i mean you know the bible talks about
01:59:28.700
generational iniquity um i think there's some some real anecdotal evidence to that claim my my
01:59:37.100
grandmother who was abducted her father was in the military now he served you know i guess it would
01:59:42.360
have been i don't know if it was world war ii or whatever the hell but um usually there's like a
01:59:48.300
military presence and you know so so there's military but i don't know show me a family in
01:59:53.300
america who doesn't have military i it's it's hard to say if it's just anecdotal or correlation
02:00:00.460
doesn't always equal causation type of deal but it is consistent it does pop up um to the extent that
02:00:05.840
i'm willing to entertain it when when dealing with the intangible phenomenon you know well we do have
02:00:12.220
i don't want to actually blow i'm not going to say the person's name but somebody that i do know
02:00:16.580
that we talk to often you know him too but you don't know the story his family was involved in
02:00:22.480
the first uh operation paperclip apparently there were two the first operation paperclip was uh i guess
02:00:28.760
people were relocated to new york to a base in new york that now today is like kind of riddled with
02:00:35.180
witch witchcraft and the dude is his family was super smart this dude is very smart like an iq that
02:00:44.880
i don't even know if they can measure it but probably in the 200s um and from the little bits
02:00:50.920
and pieces that he's told me like the things that his family is working on and the things that he was
02:00:56.020
working on uh yeah it's all like weird government related stuff it's it can get he can't even come on
02:01:02.480
the show it's just somebody that i talk to that i find very interesting but i i don't want him to
02:01:08.180
come on the show because i feel like yeah if it's too close to you yeah yeah it's not a good move
02:01:12.340
but yeah this stuff is generational yeah and it kind of goes down the line and we're looking at
02:01:18.600
i'm when i talk to him it's very clear that i'm looking at somebody who is like
02:01:22.480
close to it yeah but yeah yeah yeah i'd like to i pray that i'm far enough removed where i can share
02:01:30.620
these disclose some of these things because like it's felt pretty intimate for personal yeah but i
02:01:36.320
mean my grandfather even uh he was one of the first people to touchdown after the bomb was dropped in
02:01:43.240
hiroshima wow and he writes about it in his memoirs he was been interviewed and must be a nightmare they
02:01:48.400
stole a jeep from the americans and they and they bombed around and there was like they saw some
02:01:54.320
terrible things of course and i mean he was it's interesting because i'm still i'm still critical
02:02:01.380
to the fact of like he's a he's a believer that the bomb fell but again he has no distinct i mean
02:02:07.820
i'm here would he not have be fully irradiated i mean that's followed right that's a great show
02:02:13.480
yeah that's soon after the thing drops and you're cruising around and he's cruising around in the jeep
02:02:18.500
like and so that story doesn't really add up which is i mean his story his testimony makes sense i
02:02:25.540
believe that to be true but the radiation aspect like that i think that's the big lie about the
02:02:30.580
nuclear stuff like the the seems pretty obvious yeah but what else are they lying about i don't know
02:02:35.700
but i know we know that they got big ass bombs certainly do yeah i'm much more comfortable calling
02:02:40.000
big ass bombs than i am yeah nuclear whatever probably more accurate yeah just a huge bomb doesn't
02:02:46.020
minimize like the destructive capabilities of the damn thing but it's like is it an inhabitable
02:02:52.040
hellscape for thousands of years well the wildlife would beg to disagree yeah so i so he's um he's on
02:03:00.380
the ground after hiroshima yeah he's pulling up ufos out of the water yeah and he's um there's stuff
02:03:08.620
that's more personal too but it's not unlike what you'd hear in circles yeah and uh so that's your
02:03:18.280
grandfather yeah and this is more recently come to light and so it makes me i have not even unpacked
02:03:24.320
this myself there's a lot of compartments a lot of threads in my life i haven't pulled yeah um and
02:03:29.660
this would be one of them but nonetheless i i think that it's it's not unrelated to some of these
02:03:37.980
experiences i've had i think it it makes a lot of sense um you know just through that lens that i've
02:03:46.620
become comfortable looking at things through which is generational iniquity it's just funny how many
02:03:51.200
things the bible can address but in that same way like when you're a conspiracy theorist or you're
02:03:57.460
into this gnosis and if anybody doesn't quite know what you know then you're not really having
02:04:01.920
it you can't hear it from them when the church in its modern day visage which is kind of like nerfed
02:04:09.060
and and innocent and and almost naive right is some ways that you could describe the church or at least
02:04:14.180
if you're looking at it from the outside you might say bible 1c3 yeah you would character caricaturize
02:04:19.480
it and turn it into a little cartoon character and it's it's innocent it's naive and how are you
02:04:23.600
going to tell me what the answer is when you don't even understand about operation paperclip
02:04:27.340
you know what i mean like that kind of crap truly yeah um because then you start looking into the
02:04:30.700
bible and it's like no it has a pretty good handle on these things the church man's inability to
02:04:34.600
articulate or propagate the information in a way that prepares the the the herd um isn't the fault of
02:04:41.640
the information itself because i i truly do find general generational iniquity to be a great
02:04:49.040
descriptive of what's happening here it's like our grandparents somebody in the in the lineage
02:04:53.800
dabbled in something they got too close to something they sought the wrong answers you
02:04:59.560
know my grandmother sought the new age and then you just see the ramifications all down the line
02:05:05.060
and uh that would actually tie in quite organically because he was he was very poor
02:05:10.060
my grandfather when he grew up he couldn't eat eggs in his adult life because that's all he did eat
02:05:17.380
oh wow that's a gross chicken farm yeah but they were from a poor ass part of england and like
02:05:23.140
yeah he had he had it even he had a real rough growing up very very poor and then he went from
02:05:29.620
that to like the boss of everybody around him like he was giving orders constantly to his staff to his
02:05:36.640
family and it's strange you know it's something else to consider here is that he being a brutal man he
02:05:43.300
was he held my family together like we went there with bells on and dishes for like uh throughout my
02:05:52.080
all my childhood and like it was uncomfortable it was like typical english like little bit ruling
02:05:58.920
class uncomfortable not over the top like we weren't like ultra prestigious in the sense of like
02:06:04.640
financial wealth it's like stuffy it's definitely stuffy and definitely uh there was a threat of fear
02:06:11.540
that held up together in a weird way and that was the the expectations of your grandfather was
02:06:18.360
where that came from yeah a little bit i mean it was a little bit like the kids this the sons are now
02:06:22.580
taking digs at him and like you know he's kind of like going by the wayside but you know ever since
02:06:29.420
he uh has passed there's been no big family get-togethers like they were right like he was that sucks he
02:06:38.140
was the glue yep he wasn't having it any other way i don't know what it was man it was just like
02:06:43.960
then he was revered and feared and hated but but he did the job but he did the job man like he he did
02:06:51.240
he was a boss and like he held it down in his own way there's a lesson in that right kind of yeah you
02:06:58.020
don't have to be your friend but if that's his job to hold that family together come hell or high
02:07:02.920
water then that is what it is you have to look at me however you're gonna look at me but he's got
02:07:07.080
something to do same thing with my family you know uh the matriarch dies everybody goes their
02:07:13.620
separate way because everybody knows better oh matriarch though right uh yeah yeah because uh
02:07:17.820
my grandfather was a piece of shit kind of so uh yeah the grand my grandmother on both sides held
02:07:23.180
it down and then and you know what his wife is now too to some degree but it's it's nothing like it
02:07:29.020
was in this form of glory but like we still yeah but yeah it seems like that generation you know
02:07:36.040
grandparents for a lot of people were like the last ones holding on because right after that like
02:07:41.220
the value of of a tight-knit family for for a lot of people gen x uh millennials like it all kind of
02:07:49.600
falls away and that's so unfortunate man like yeah there's a lack of cousins out there in my life
02:07:54.980
for my children and uh there's just a lack of good and inclusive family units to connect with but
02:08:03.960
honestly that's why i make the trip down here because i know i'm gonna be rubbing shoulders with
02:08:07.880
good christian folks yeah like-minded people like that is invaluable and where i'm from it's
02:08:14.540
they're out there we just found an enclave of them at our church like thank god but um it's uh
02:08:22.360
it it's it's a pretty we're the most compliant place in north america i'm sure yeah oh tons of
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boomers super left very compliant yeah very all those all those stereotypes so yeah yeah it's um
02:08:39.160
it's a bummer you know i got i got a kid and and i know both you guys have kids and i kind of look at
02:08:44.300
it like like you're i notice your family's really like tight-knit and like i i've made an effort to kind
02:08:49.560
of revive that a bit is it like fell away and i'm looking at my kid and i'm like dude i don't know
02:08:55.040
what because i i remember growing up and having aunts and uncles and grandparents around and um
02:09:01.080
you know for a point in my childhood and then it all stopped and i think like what i'm learning is
02:09:06.920
kind of like your story without that the there's there's your identity within christ but there is
02:09:14.180
also like this other like what did i come from yeah like who are these people that
02:09:18.980
even though i'm not aware of it informed who i became because there is like yeah genetic memory
02:09:26.740
right all this is passed down these traits it's like where do i get all this from and knowing that
02:09:33.000
and in fact that's why they're trying to depart us and get us into this big
02:09:36.340
the she the them jellyfish yeah blob of like we're all one no we're not all one
02:09:43.180
we're very unique we're very unique and if you are familiar with what makes you unique like i'm not
02:09:48.960
even i know a bit about my family lineage enough to go back a few generations it set me apart from like
02:09:54.600
it made me almost like a black sheep because i gave a shit about that like i wasn't doing the
02:09:59.560
typical like joining the hockey team drinking dim hortons and smoking cigarettes it's great like it is
02:10:04.680
yeah like i was i was more like interested in like history and like okay where did i come from and
02:10:09.080
like what does this shit mean and who am i and and you just weren't the normie crowd so speak just
02:10:15.160
wasn't it wasn't their interest or the topic yeah talking to the old talking to old people that's what
02:10:20.420
i like i like do like to do that they give you something right they not the old people but you you
02:10:24.500
have a culture that comes from your your family lineage and then you have the the culture at scale
02:10:30.820
that is manufactured and given to you by media by trends and things like that and that one is
02:10:36.620
appealing because it allows you to bridge the gap between you and your neighbor and your friends at
02:10:39.860
school and everything so you can leave that family culture tradition and values and everything and you
02:10:45.860
could assimilate into this new thing that is ever changing with each generation that is pumped out by
02:10:51.020
the media well it's controlled by the enemy it's the secular yeah yeah and it's the world it's the world
02:10:56.260
and uh the days are evil i mean it says it right in the good book yes and but we are called to be
02:11:03.860
grafted into the into the body yeah we're grafted into this tree and it's so crazy because like as i'm
02:11:10.100
going through the bible and i showed you a picture last night of the action bible which is like oh yeah
02:11:14.620
yeah you guys know that yeah cool so i'm reading that through a second time with my daughter now
02:11:18.620
yeah yeah i have that but i mean by being grafted into this this family it's like it it makes it not
02:11:27.300
only does it add social cohesion but it gives you a sense of history where it's like i've been adopted
02:11:31.820
into god's family and that and i'm still not wrestling with that but still contemplating this
02:11:39.940
philosophical ramifications of that yeah what does it mean oh an endless amount of things how empowering
02:11:45.060
is that to know that you're taken care of and you have a lineage and the enemy is trying to tell you
02:11:50.140
you know you don't have a lineage in fact you don't even know if you're a boy or a girl yeah yeah and i
02:11:55.100
think in a way we'll pat ourselves on the back but this is what matt was trying to achieve with this
02:12:01.280
coffee shop so that christian library back there it's for bible studies and things like that for people
02:12:08.160
to i don't know talk talk with each other about god but the name of the standard the name the standard
02:12:14.620
that you have on your chest there is not because like like oh this is the standard of coffee that's
02:12:18.400
what i assumed right like here's the standard this is like the benchmark he said no the standard is a
02:12:23.500
is a person he's like the flag bearer and he lets the troops know where to regroup at so that's why
02:12:30.800
this place is called the standard and that's what that place is back here but at large just in general
02:12:35.180
and here you are this it's basically like this is the calling card of like oh you're lost well
02:12:40.780
we're we are in a war but we're going to regroup over here and we're going to do yeah and and amazing
02:12:46.880
yeah exactly so what you just described is the mission of this place of what matt has been trying
02:12:52.600
to do and you know i mean again like i said the bible studies are great i think even the podcast is
02:12:58.260
great not necessarily exactly what he's trying to do but what he's trying to do is bring people through
02:13:01.900
that door to regroup yeah that's interesting what are we doing here you know it's our base in there
02:13:06.740
for sure yeah it's like our base in a war you know you're on you're on enemy grounds but we do
02:13:11.620
have a spot set up yeah if you're nearby come come in so there's grass on the wall come in yeah that's
02:13:18.060
interesting um so i mean yeah as far as generational iniquity uh you know i know you said there's some
02:13:24.980
things that you're not going to go into but it sounds you've laid enough of an argument for me at
02:13:29.020
least that kind of confirms my bias um the reason you're experiencing these things is probably because
02:13:35.000
somewhere along the line something has you know maybe given access contracts this man
02:13:41.940
agreements any number of things you know his life changed a lot like and impacted his family for
02:13:47.780
generations and in fact on my mother's side i mean do you guys want to hear about that like that's
02:13:53.420
yeah it's not necessarily paranormal or nds but i mean that's even crazier on my um and i just come to
02:14:00.440
find this out more recently because i have a cousin in ontario who gave me like a family history
02:14:06.100
and their heinz which is a they were german ketchup people similar spelling's different oh damn it yeah
02:14:13.720
but uh they're they came from germany and they actually came to the states first i think down
02:14:20.240
around maine and then they made their and then the pioneering ones or whatever his name is soldier ben
02:14:25.680
and this would have been my great-grandfather of seven generations ago he went up to uh new harbor
02:14:34.020
in nova scotia and this is like when there's nothing yeah like nothing nothing and they had they had
02:14:40.360
their boat and they had another boat with their timbers and their supplies to build their
02:14:44.460
their their encampment and their town and that ship sunk oh shit and so they landed and some of
02:14:54.560
his early memoirs when we have them is like being raided by indians and women just offering
02:15:04.060
themselves yeah because they're so vulnerable like they're just like take me take me take me take me
02:15:09.480
like right right and like i was reading through some of this and he was actually pretty wild like
02:15:17.300
chopping up indians like he was like yeah a mercenary like he was there to they were fighting and he was
02:15:23.200
in the fight and this is so funny i've never i don't share this what the hell happened to canadians
02:15:31.160
right right like it's not our our history is not entirely different in a lot of regards no it's
02:15:37.320
yeah it's very similar same damn continent same struggle yeah it's a it's a pioneering place and
02:15:43.700
he was one of the first pioneers there and so he uh he went on to to beef with these indians for many
02:15:51.620
years and actually ended up and it's written that we have a general generational curse no shit yeah as
02:15:57.920
a result for from the indians for seven generations oh shit huh yeah seven generations you say yeah yeah
02:16:04.160
this is what her and then and it's interesting because like my family would have um success and then
02:16:10.520
failure success and then failure like they were they owned a bunch of land and were like
02:16:14.800
fire chiefs and mayors and different things in my city and then they would all be go away or they
02:16:20.400
would become alcoholics but it's very tragic yeah but it would be like a rise in the fall and like a
02:16:26.400
but it was it wasn't a consistent like there was no harmony yeah right uh and so and that follows
02:16:34.600
true i've lost two uncles to suicide as well i also lost an uncle from that specific side to to suicide
02:16:41.980
um yeah so man so they're thinking that indians put the curse on your family well how do they say
02:16:49.960
how we determine that you know this is another one of those things dude where it's it's a thread
02:16:55.740
it's a thread where like i read through it once like five years ago like around covet i connected with
02:17:01.220
her because she's on the same page and stuff and uh i kind of read through it and i was really kind
02:17:06.860
of like i printed it all off and i kept it and i and i but it was like almost too much like to me it
02:17:13.040
was like because i again i struggle with the arrogance and the vanity thing i don't know if
02:17:18.900
that was it or like i just didn't feel i know that by taking all that on it would it would just be a
02:17:25.860
lot to take on and i was already dealing with like i was a guy that never wore a mask right so
02:17:31.920
you're already in a battle everyone wore a mask yeah you're in a battle already it's another thing
02:17:36.100
to take another one every cashier yeah and everyone yeah for a long time yeah and the thing is is like
02:17:43.560
even to this day it'd be nice to be like oh you know what man i should have just gone along to get
02:17:47.960
along and it could have no man if if if men decided to do that collectively as a majority or
02:17:55.120
even oh yeah a strong minority it would fucking shut the whole thing down that's where they're
02:17:59.100
going after the young men right because well that's that's who's going to make the difference
02:18:03.540
in the fight because they're the only people that are going to fight really yeah
02:18:06.280
so but yeah that's do you ever do you have those papers still you know yeah you print it out
02:18:14.780
yeah you know i i just want to say that um even in the scale of that fight this is seven
02:18:24.460
generational curse and everything remember that lady we had in here the the sort of mystic from
02:18:28.800
puerto rico and she was talking about generational curses and she goes like it's true there is
02:18:34.960
generational curses um but it's not true that they that they affect you or something like that and
02:18:41.240
there was a language barrier and i'm going where's she going with this you know what i mean like
02:18:46.000
it they definitely affect you but i'm i'm letting her go i'm letting her go and then she's just like
02:18:50.420
she's a clairvoyant and it's you know you hear that you're like what are we talking about but
02:18:55.860
you're i'm trying to figure out where this lady i've never talked to before she grounded in christ
02:18:59.200
like i do believe we we can receive spiritual gifts you know for somebody to just start recording
02:19:05.020
everything that happens in here it's a crazy place yeah like this lady before we even did the
02:19:10.040
studio her daughter interviewed me she was wearing a zorro mask and she had no idea who i was and i
02:19:15.620
gave her like she's like i just want to try to do content like she's going to try to do content so i
02:19:18.840
gave her some crazy shit yeah and she never aired it of course but then they came back in yeah and
02:19:23.320
then we had the shop so like yeah it's like just random she's standing right there talking to us and
02:19:27.260
we're like whoa well we don't know this lady at all you know so when she's saying she's clairvoyant or
02:19:31.540
she's psychic or whatever and she's she's from puerto rico you know first generation here so i'm getting
02:19:38.460
lost a little bit in you know kind of the broken english and i'm letting her cook and all of a
02:19:44.040
sudden she goes like yeah you don't have to suffer it because jesus christ has paid that debt and i was
02:19:51.240
like boom there we go when she starts going off she's like you can break that you're screwed
02:19:55.620
effectively i'm paraphrasing you're screwed for seven generations until you call on christ accept him
02:20:02.080
as your lord and savior and and ask him to break these binds these agreements these contracts these
02:20:08.040
curses the debt's been paid it's all she was saying something like it's already broken like that's how
02:20:14.080
like she's kind of was phrasing like it's already it's already broken you just have to like you just
02:20:19.540
have to like call it out yeah i was gonna call it out it's kind of fascinating right yeah that had me
02:20:25.360
that had me there dude i'm telling you though like it's the thing i so laura baker awesome friend of
02:20:31.700
the show helped me with some deliverance stuff really set up the training wheels so that i kind
02:20:36.140
of understood like okay what am i asking for what am i saying like how do i frame this how do i talk to
02:20:40.040
god on these matters and do you mind me asking how was your deliverance like or did did you it was
02:20:45.960
great it was so so she's she stayed on on the line after a show one day and and top left the room to go
02:20:52.660
do something and she was like do you want to do it now and i was like yeah all those demons in my
02:20:56.780
spare room now they're now they're in your office you know but it was like it just it was it was
02:21:02.400
really simple it was like repentance and and then just asking but it's like if you don't know
02:21:08.400
how how do i even go about doing this thing you know what i mean like like even i wasn't raised
02:21:13.540
christian so for a while talking to god was like how do i do this is this a formal good day sir
02:21:20.220
lord are you there like you know what i mean i don't know like what i'm doing and eventually i
02:21:24.320
realized like it's just about talking earnestly like like trying to shed all that other crap
02:21:30.360
that's blocking you know like the the the doubt and the weirdness of talking to somebody who's not
02:21:35.280
you can't see with your physical eyes and just being being earnest um and so yeah eventually i just
02:21:42.280
got to this point where it's like you know i'll check in every once in a while i don't know what
02:21:45.980
agreements i've made anything that i've come into agreement anything i've spoken over myself
02:21:50.020
knowing or unknowing and and and anything that's happened in the past anything that my my grandparents
02:21:55.180
or any of my ancestors were involved in that gave something access to me um you know to to break that
02:22:01.800
in the in the name of jesus christ and i don't know it's as somebody that like i felt multiple times in
02:22:09.060
my life pretty close to what what you might call like the veil like seeing things and having experiences
02:22:15.160
i feel like i've done a lot of work and i've checked a lot of boxes and i've i've asked and
02:22:20.800
i've given a lot of things to god um over the last year that like that that thing it seems like that
02:22:27.640
veil is pretty damn strong like i don't have these experiences anymore i'd hope so because you guys are
02:22:33.260
definitely bringing people into this room that you know if you weren't protected that's why i don't have
02:22:38.080
that because i've i've seen i don't have that fear associated with it i've seen it a lot i've seen a lot
02:22:42.380
of weird shit i know that there's like so much that it can do it can't ruin your life it can whisper
02:22:48.360
and it can nudge and it can influence you to spiral around the drain and and just ruin everything that's
02:22:53.360
around you um but that's really the nature of what it does and um and so i don't know knowing
02:23:00.620
eventually that i was like grounded in christ and i and i was on the right side of the the fight even
02:23:05.440
before i had really shut all the doors and who knows maybe there's still doors open and i'm still
02:23:09.420
working and at any moment i could slip up in some stupid ass way but but repentance and forgiveness
02:23:14.040
is always there and the debt has always been paid so i can always go back to a good and faithful god
02:23:18.540
who forgives and who you know paves the way for you and who prepares the way for you right goes ahead
02:23:22.480
of you and prepares the way for you so i i don't have like any fear when it comes to this shit
02:23:26.600
um and maybe that's kind of foolish but yeah whoever comes in this door like you're not going to come
02:23:33.820
in this door with something that's greater than my god so it doesn't matter it doesn't matter what
02:23:39.320
what you have and and and also i've seen a lot of it so you know is it like unsettling is it scary is
02:23:46.200
it is it kind of worrisome like yeah i don't know man you bring nathan reynolds in here i'll beat his
02:23:50.300
ass i've said this on the show before and i will do that i think you're getting fixated on the wrong
02:23:55.620
thing with him he's got he's got some really interesting stuff he does i just he does not believe
02:23:59.620
him at all i just don't well it's not that i don't believe the stories the stories line up in
02:24:03.240
such a way where it's like he's talking about something i just don't know that you cut a man's
02:24:07.380
head off and do it at the feet of a pastor in our lady of the lake in arizona like that's and then
02:24:10.440
say it on the podcast and then say it on the podcast yeah i'm just like where's the investigation but
02:24:14.480
that doesn't matter it doesn't matter my thing is just um you're not going to bring anything in here
02:24:18.560
that's going to be unlike anything that i've seen before or anything that i'm familiar with through
02:24:23.960
other people's stories and you're certainly not going to bring anything in here that's greater than my god
02:24:28.200
so i'm not worried about any of that shit but yeah man the simplicity of it it's like yeah it
02:24:33.040
is complex right seven generations that's a very specific number you know what i mean like that's
02:24:38.200
what the bible says um and and it's already been paid for like it's there yeah like that curse is
02:24:45.760
real but it's already been paid for and i and it's it's just a matter of like working through it
02:24:51.000
and getting to this place where you're earnestly and honestly asking for these things to be broken and
02:24:56.860
repenting of the things that you've done and all this but um man that's crazy you got blapped up on
02:25:03.020
both sides of the of the family then yeah pretty blapped up pretty blapped up that's why i was pretty
02:25:07.540
stoked to find christ because i was like not only was i inherited these things but also blackpilling
02:25:13.440
myself like a mother ever right like going down all the rabbit holes and without any real vestige of
02:25:20.360
like a counterbalance honestly i got sucked into the uh the trump narrative too oh hell yeah dude with
02:25:26.500
like q and on too and you know what every time i went on some kind of a video or a forum or something
02:25:30.740
there was always a bunch of people calling it out it's a sigh up it's this is that i'm like okay and
02:25:34.560
i would like exit it and i'd check it out later and then people'd still be chirping and then i'd check
02:25:40.760
out and i'd go back in and just one time there was people weren't chirping and i listened to it for
02:25:45.280
like a good hour and i was like okay man yeah yeah that's how it happens that's how it goes i i get it
02:25:51.060
man it's um it's a it's a manipulation of a good thing and that good thing is hope
02:25:56.160
and but like it's a vulnerability because it's hope in what hope hope and and joy in our lord or hope
02:26:03.860
in the world hope in a man that is just a human that is just a man and it's like you know it's a
02:26:10.460
it's a really positive um faculty of of human nature hope uh but when it's misplaced it's
02:26:17.180
leveraged against us and then it just happens time and time and time again and i just didn't
02:26:21.380
want to believe it like i sorry i didn't want to believe that it wasn't true like eventually when
02:26:25.620
you tie you you buy in i fell into those psychological traps too where i was like oh this gotta be right
02:26:30.140
please i'm banking on it yeah dude it's better it better be right it better be right how dope would
02:26:34.200
it be if it was right yeah yeah we live in a fallen world is like well he shows up he goes
02:26:40.700
there's only two genders oh yeah there's only two genders all right listen i want to i want to get
02:26:46.640
this other story on the other story yeah yeah let's get the other story so the farmhouse we're
02:26:50.200
running we're running late in the show here yeah you know what we could do um it's a beer guy's show
02:26:55.140
i mean no it's the top whatever you want to do but uh that one it has some nuance to it
02:27:01.880
you could do that another time how long are you gonna be here i'm here till next thursday
02:27:07.400
but i mean yeah you know what it is nice coming into the studio i gotta tell you because like he's
02:27:12.820
like i just really like this place let's do it again i do it's it's a drive it takes me an hour
02:27:16.940
and a half to get you but does it really yeah yeah but you get a free coffee with every mac coin
02:27:20.620
you know what that's awesome and you get to buy in early dude buy into mac coin early it's gonna go
02:27:26.540
so everybody buy this coin buy and hold i'm not doing this buy and hold well yeah let's do that
02:27:31.720
let's shelf it yeah and come by again you know next week or something like that or we can do a
02:27:36.320
digital one whatever you want to do okay yeah either way i'm you you've already see i see what
02:27:41.280
he did here this is a sales technique oh he's doing the sales it was a good one it was a good
02:27:45.600
one good one in there there you go he's like just left a bunch of leads and he's like they're
02:27:49.920
gonna pull on one of these i don't have to i like this this is great man it's a banger this is a
02:27:54.100
good day i i would like to do more of these i like this more dude there's nothing against
02:27:58.900
all the the many homies that we've had on the show but you don't like interviewing experts like
02:28:03.000
timothy alberino the experts right and i just have a healthy distrust for them and can i okay i'm
02:28:08.380
gonna speak for the chat for a sec for being like a okay whatever you say is exactly what the
02:28:12.520
guy drives me and i'm sure many of them nuts the banter the interruptions and the derailing
02:28:19.240
no all for it but it's podcast people talking about podcast stuff oh oh you know i got kicked
02:28:27.020
off this platform and that one and what about and they demonetized me and i got flagged here and it
02:28:31.960
goes on for like 10 minutes and they're cry baby i know it's like a common thing that podcast people
02:28:36.420
share but yeah nobody gets a shit yeah no you know what it is i think you're right we we're we are
02:28:41.280
involved in podcast drama right now my wife tells me she's like i don't know it's the most boring
02:28:46.440
kind of drama yeah it is it is actually no this is fascinating drama well this is actually okay it
02:28:51.660
could it could it could unfold into some like real government fed shit which i hope not but i i hear
02:28:58.140
you like i don't know who we beefing with the guy that stole our stole our moon map it's fun for a
02:29:04.120
while it's a principled thing i still want that when you take a thing from a man and you say you're
02:29:08.100
borrowing it and then you you hold on to it for in uh you know an indeterminate amount of time
02:29:13.300
yeah that's called stealing as far as i'm concerned i know but this is podcast beef and
02:29:17.880
it does not belong on our podcast i just want my belongings what was our biggest transgression
02:29:22.020
with podcast beef in your opinion if you could remember
02:29:25.640
i mean you guys in general are pretty good otherwise i wouldn't be here like you know
02:29:33.380
there's some that just go like there's some beefs that just go on like owen benjamin's had some
02:29:38.680
beefs where i'm like and i like him he's funny as hell he will beat a dead horse oh my god very
02:29:42.720
dead yeah i was skipping ahead like 45 minutes he's still on about just killing that horse i like
02:29:48.260
to look at when he kills a horse i go that's how you kill a horse that's how you
02:29:51.220
that's how you kill a horse that's how you kill a horse that horse shows up and i'm thinking about
02:29:55.660
killing it i go how would o and benjamin he's gone it's in the glue container yeah he's got his label
02:30:01.400
on it 100 100 he knows how to kill a horse yeah yeah okay good good advice we will we will watch
02:30:07.920
out for that i feel like we we could get caught up on that i feel you guys are you guys are not the
02:30:11.460
bad ones to do it i mean in general well no i i agree with you when people are complaining when
02:30:15.840
you listen to a show and they're complaining just like um maybe this isn't the best example but right
02:30:20.240
now i'm hearing like a david ike do this where david ike is just going like nobody will have me on
02:30:24.060
their show this person won't do it that person won't do it i've been talking about this for a long
02:30:28.120
time nobody wants to hear woe is me shit no nobody wants to hear woe is me although it is very
02:30:32.320
tempting i i know i get you and mad i said part of me wants to make my entire personality just about
02:30:39.040
timothy alberino right now oh yeah well and it would be easy tempting and it would be fun you know
02:30:43.740
what i was doing i was i see it and i go i just my wife was listening to a tiktok the other day right
02:30:49.440
and on the tiktok my wife they're talking about uh you gotta do it
02:30:55.080
just don't disrespect the show she goes she goes this lady this girl on tiktok she goes um
02:31:02.300
did you know that himalayan salt oh yeah like that is actually the petrified innards of giants
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and i go this is where i'm doing this what was me shit i go babe how many views does that have babe
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how many shares does that have six million 66 000 shares uh 170 000 likes and i go okay
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that's cool so we're talking about that on the show all the time right we talk but but we're not
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a chick we're not a chick and and who talks like an idiot on on because the way she talks she's like
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did you know we're out here smelling this literally we're smelling the soul the insides of giants
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is what you're using you want this there you go man sniff it sniff it up dude you sniff those are a
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little bit of petrified giant innards um you know so i'll have my moments of bitching and moaning
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uh but i try not to drag it onto the show uh because i you know i think it's the same thing
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as blackpilling the bitchers and the moaners are also the blackpillers we can do that there's a
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correlation there i don't think we can do it i think we yeah no we bitched and moaned about uh
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uh the whole leesburg and the clint russell okay we did quite a bit about that that was like we were
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wronged we were wronged but then we did bitch and moan we suffered pain four months was it four months
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four long months of bitching and moaning and whining yeah you have a certain presence with
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your vision moaning which is very authoritative you do you make it entertaining and it is good
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coming from you but i mean tip specifically podcasters talking about the nuance of podcasting
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oh yeah oh my stream yard wasn't working and oh i got demonetized oh yeah you don't want to talk
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about that ties there too you want to keep it moving yeah if stream yard doesn't work you might
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hear a light joke about it or we'll go fucked up the stream before we started but we're here oh well i
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mean that's every show that's every show if i relate because fucking stream yard um all right
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well let's let's put a pin in it man and we'll figure this out tell them where they can't find
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you yeah tell them where they can't find you don't even look for me don't even get started
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you can find me in on patreon like if somebody does have something i loved it and what's your name
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on there uh can we check your messages check your messages that's a good idea we'll check yeah i don't
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know that i just listen on spotify and most of the podcasts are locked i haven't even unlocked
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them like i don't know what i'm doing like oh you haven't figured out how to get i'm like a couple
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weeks behind all the time so i'm never really concerned it's your full name on there i don't
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know if i'm gonna say your full name oh yeah there you are yeah we are on the internet with a lot of
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people yeah don't don't do that look what i'll say is i'll i'll pass people your way if you have
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anything interesting to say uh to dylan then hit us up you know shoot us a message if you have any
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insights on anything or or you know anything that you want to reach out to him i'll pass their
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information along sure i'll just make a presence on patreon somehow yeah just comment on something
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we'll make a post we'll say and i'll change my name first we'll say dylan's gonna comment below
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probably a good idea yeah and then you'll comment below a lot of bad people on it but like here it
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is guys until next time tomorrow we're on with a bunch of good stuff but this pre-airs so it doesn't
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even matter what i'm saying we'll see you soon don't forget to obey submit and comply goodbye
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they bred with daughters of men and they will do it again the end is written in the book