00:01:19.340Thank you guys so much for the rapid turnout in that way.
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00:02:02.240oh the daniel 2 one's a banger actually let's show off uh daniel's dream i like that that's the uh
00:02:07.420the statue made of uh all the different uh metals and and such that's a that's a banger
00:02:12.440it's a really great design dude good job thank you man i got to do some more designing so we
00:02:17.140have a great guest today and hopefully hopefully it's gonna go i know it's gonna go great guys
00:02:22.820joining us uh once again is laura baker we actually tried to do this episode not too long ago and we
00:02:28.260ran into a litany of tech issues none of which i am sensing right now so i have a really good
00:02:33.940feeling about this laura thank you for coming back one of my favorite people actually squirreled her
00:02:38.620way into our intro that's how much we like you laura baker uh before we get into this conversation
00:02:44.140though let's remind everybody where they can find your work and what it is you do okay okay um
00:02:51.500oh i'm getting getting back are you oh she's getting maybe echo cancellation luckily we can't
00:02:56.700hear it we're gonna fix that for you in a second though let's just check into this and don't worry
00:03:01.260um even if this goes on for a second we could always edit it out just want to make sure you're
00:03:06.140not going to have a feedback loop going on boom boom boom okay it's gone it's gone it's gone
00:03:12.300Yeah. We're professionals. Okay. You are professionals and y'all look professional,
00:03:17.640especially with all that stuff in your room. That looks great.
00:03:21.140The more junk we put in here, the more professional we look.0.95
00:03:24.940Yes. You're going to have to start wearing suits pretty soon.0.86
00:03:27.680Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we're going to have room for,
00:03:29.360we have to start putting stuff outside of the studio into, into studio, uh, B studio,
00:03:34.480studio E D D. I think we have so many studios. Um,
00:03:38.320so where can people find your work, Laura?
00:03:39.960okay it's called cleansing the bloodline.com that's my website my books are on there um i've
00:03:47.020got a telegram channel called cleansing the bloodline and my books are also uh can be found
00:03:53.100on amazon yeah you can get them cheaper on there if you're just getting an ebook and um otherwise
00:04:00.160you go to amazon is that your newest one right there at the bottom uh uh communion with the king
00:04:05.940no that one was actually that my third one that was the third one and kingdom against kingdom is
00:04:12.980the latest one that's right that's right okay and now i'm working on another one all right fantastic
00:04:19.200guys go and pick up uh laura baker's books i always we've said this before there's a couple
00:04:23.300of people that we've had the pleasure of communicating with um and we have a feeling
00:04:28.040that they're going to be uh you know this show stands kind of on the shoulders of giants right
00:04:33.360So you have like Mike Heiser, Chuck Misler, like characters like this that are well known and have kind of like paved the way for for people like us to come along.
00:04:41.180I have a feeling people like Laura Baker, like Ed Mabry, this is kind of going to be those characters for the next generation.
00:04:47.560And it's really been a pleasure to to not only communicate with you, but to expose our audience to your work.
00:04:53.820When we were talking earlier. Well, let's talk about what it is that we're going to get into today.
00:05:00.080okay today i'm going to talk about prayer because um or let me say effective prayer because a lot
00:05:07.340of people there are that are christian they just don't know how to pray and they don't see results
00:05:12.200because they don't know how it works so i'm going to go over the scriptures and show you how it
00:05:17.120works so that because corporate prayer is super powerful i mean prayer alone is really good too
00:05:23.280really really good but um we are we are citizens of a higher kingdom got to remember that the
00:05:31.780identity you have to get the identity down we're citizens of the highest kingdom so we pray from
00:05:38.700that position not from a position of just begging god that's what most people do beg god right please
00:05:45.300help me please i you know i got this problem and it doesn't matter what your problem is
00:05:49.620And if you're reduced to begging, begging is not what moves God.
00:07:08.520okay so the effectual prayer that's the effective prayer of a righteous man okay are you righteous
00:07:17.400yes if you are under the blood of Jesus Christ that's what makes you righteous you being super
00:07:22.800holy and trying to follow the law is not what makes you righteous being under the blood of Jesus
00:07:27.400is what makes you righteous so the effective fervent that means people who are going to be
00:07:33.380fervent about prayer, right? There you go. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man
00:07:40.840avails much, meaning it gets results. So number one, you want to be effective, right? Number two,
00:07:48.720you want to be in a righteous standing. So you want to repent regularly. You want to live a
00:07:54.520lifestyle of repentance, right? And as a Christian and, oh, and guys, you are guys, you also, there
00:08:02.640There's a scripture in there that says, and I'll find it, it's somewhere in here, about being in good standing with your wife so that your prayers are not hindered.
00:16:40.980Out of the mouth of two or three witnesses
00:16:44.280OK, we're going to witness, we're going to release. And then there's also a scripture that says Mark 11, 24.
00:16:52.120It says, therefore, I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it and it will be yours.
00:17:01.100And then Matthew 18, 19 says anything two of you agree upon, my father will provide it from heaven.0.90
00:17:07.520So I'm always grabbing people, by the way, don't don't grab an unbeliever and don't even grab, you know, a Christian that doesn't understand, you know, doesn't doesn't have real faith in the scriptures because you're not you don't really have a partner.0.97
00:17:21.840You don't have that agreement that you need. And if you can't find anybody, then email me and I'll agree with you.0.96
00:17:27.100Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I'm happy to do that. You know, I'm happy to agree, but, but you better, you better be able to tell me what scripture you're standing on. Cause I'm not going to agree with you for Lamborghini just cause you want one. I have, you have to have a scripture that you're standing on. And then in the book of James, it tells you, you have to persevere. You have to persevere, persevere, stand on that word, stand on that word, believe it in faith, persevere. And that that is the perfect man.
00:17:53.960it tells you that in the book of james that is the perfect man who lacks nothing he is relentless
00:17:59.560like a like a pit bull on something who's not going to let go and i'm going to give you all
00:18:04.420a testimony in a minute it's going to blow your mind okay before we before we do that um we're
00:18:09.900having a little bit of an audio issue it's like a clicking i just want to have her try to refresh
00:18:14.280the browser real quick okay and see if when she comes back it's not because it wasn't there when
00:18:18.120we started the show and then i feel like it's been working so just go ahead and refresh your
00:18:21.440browser and then we'll get into this day like david's favorite fix refreshing browser is it
00:18:25.800plugged in have you tried turning it off uh i i gotta tell you i love the idea that we're about
00:18:30.400to pray for thomas oh i love thomas i'm actually a little scared because he's probably driving
00:18:35.160right now oh yeah well what if he has like a all of a sudden a moment some where he like he
00:18:39.560realizes on the highway that jesus christ is the way the truth and the life but how dope i feel
00:18:44.820like we're uh we're we're pranking him uh spiritually spiritual pranking yeah where he0.89
00:18:50.140realizes like oh shit i've been kind of there we go okay uh say say well let's just continue0.97
00:18:57.140the conversation and even if it's there we'll just have to continue because i don't think0.96
00:19:00.140there's a fix i still hear it i still hear it too you're getting a little clicking yeah it's like
00:19:04.440uh her mic's clipping out yeah like it's like um almost like she's too loud not on our end
00:19:10.440but as if you're too loud for your own microphone
00:19:12.520i have it down pretty low is it still good it's still doing the clicking thing it's really not
00:19:21.040the end of the world it's just a little thing um you know it is what it is you could hear it i
00:19:27.500didn't know where you're getting your own uh all right don't worry about it let's just let's go
00:19:32.600through it we'll be fine let's just make sure she's not too low all right okay and well y'all
00:19:37.800just pray in agreement with me um and we just break the power of the enemy and we pray heavenly
00:19:42.800father for you to clear up everything and remove all the clicking so that it's a good audio quality
00:19:48.920for the people right yes i don't hear it anymore do you uh we hear it it's it's only something that
00:19:55.220happens when you're speaking so i don't know if you would be able to to hear it i mean if you
00:19:59.060don't have um what's called monitor in your in your uh headphones but it's it's not a big deal
00:20:04.100it's fine oh somebody said twist your auxiliary cord what's plugged into your uh laptop okay
00:20:11.860oh she's using the laptop on the microphone i mean the microphone laptop so that doesn't
00:20:18.220really matter either it's all right don't worry about it no i've got a different i got a different
00:20:22.140microphone but um but it's just usb plug-in huh that's interesting all right well let's go for it
00:36:10.380trying to impose their laws on a russian that's not their citizen that's a different kingdom so
00:36:16.300it's a different you see what i'm saying uh judge because that's something that i think um
00:36:24.220maybe i misunderstand or or people in general misunderstand it strikes me as one of those
00:36:29.500things like when people say love is love and it's like what is what is the bible talking about when
00:36:33.340it says love what does it mean when god loves you versus what is a cultural context for the
00:36:38.220the terminology love as it is in like let's say america you know here in the west um love has been
00:36:45.000all twisted up and and misconstrued and watered down and uh has the same thing happened to judge
00:36:51.360because let's say i see an individual who looks away let's say threatening and and unstable and i
00:36:59.960go not going to interact with them going to keep my my family safe and so i'm gonna let's say avoid
00:37:07.060this person and then somebody might say well don't judge people and i go i'm i i just i see
00:37:12.100something that is raising alarms to me is that the same thing uh that we're talking about here
00:37:17.960what do we mean by judge okay so so it's okay for you to assess you know someone and go that that
00:37:25.060guy looks like he poses a threat to my family but what you want to do is say that guy's demons that
00:37:32.660guy has demons in him. Right. And OK. And you're judging the demons and you can clearly see he's
00:37:39.160bad news, bad news. And he has he has ill intent. You can see that you can perceive that you can
00:37:45.580even perceive that with your spirit that surpasses the faculties of using analyzation and, you know,
00:37:51.780the cognitive skills that we have in the brain. You can pick just like top. You know, he had a
00:37:57.180he had a dream or he had like a vision or, or where he said, Jesus was on a donkey coming into
00:38:03.480Jerusalem. And he said, I was in the audience and I knew, I knew that wasn't him. I knew that
00:38:09.760was a counterfeit. Well, he didn't, he didn't use any skills, you know, to analyze it or to,
00:38:15.900you know, think it through. He just knew by his spirit and you can know by your spirit,
00:38:21.340that guy is bad news and he's not going to, so you're not judging him. You're judging whatever
00:38:26.480it is you're picking up, you know, whatever it is you're picking up on, you're judging the spirits
00:38:31.820that are operating in them. And, and so that kind of judgment is fine. But whenever I say,
00:38:38.840you know, like, Lord, I curse these witches, you know, I turn them curses back on.
00:38:44.340And remember when, when James and John said, Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven?
00:38:49.440And he goes, you don't know what spirit you are of. He's saying, you see, he's saying, no, you're,
00:38:55.880you you're trying to call fire down on humanity don't do that he and instead you don't you don't
00:39:02.700um judge that situation by the people that are carrying out you know demonic acts or or evil
00:39:10.920acts you want to you want to shut down the um influence that's inside of them and you do have
00:39:18.640authority to do that so you can right then you can say i bind whatever's operating every evil
00:39:24.820force that's operating in that guy, I'm buying it right now. They're not allowed to function.
00:39:30.000They're not allowed to operate. They're not allowed to influence him because I'm here and
00:39:34.980my wife and kids are here. You can do that in the supermarket. Before you go in the supermarket,
00:39:39.920take authority over that place and you shut down the powers of darkness. They're not allowed to
00:39:45.100function while you're there. If you go by a men's club and you drive by it every day and you point0.98
00:39:51.760to it and say in the name of jesus it needs to be in your territory it needs to be in your
00:39:56.760neighborhood you can't be going to other territories and i'll tell you a testimony on that
00:40:00.600too oh yeah yeah there's territories there's territories and you can say that's my main issue
00:40:05.820with uh some missionaries oh yeah missionaries going to like india you're a red-haired white
00:40:12.460dude why are you in you know standing in front of a quetzalcoatl statue in mexico uh perhaps
00:40:18.200stay home. But why, in your opinion, you know, Elijah is bringing down fire from heaven and
00:40:28.220killing these, you know, well, he's bringing down fire to light the altar, but then he goes and he0.57
00:40:34.580kills the prophets of Baal. And that's acceptable. And it seems like it was, he was directed to do0.99
00:40:39.860that. But then years, you know, thousands of years later, when they asked Jesus, he's like,
00:40:45.480No, we don't do that anymore. So what what happened in the interim there?
00:40:49.440Well, OK, when when Jesus came in the in the offer of salvation went out to the whole world, you know, now it's it's a you know, it's a it's a different paradigm.
00:41:03.220It's a completely different paradigm. And like my brothers and sisters, your brothers and sisters, they're over there in Palestine.
00:41:10.640You know, they're over there in Syria. They're over in India. They're in China. That is our nation. The peculiar nation that the Bible talks about is a nation without borders. And I'm more concerned about praying for them, for their provision and their protection, for them to fly under the radar because they're persecuting Christians than I am about praying for Trump to save America.
00:41:38.040you know that that uh nationalism christian nationalism that's a trap man that's not yeah
00:41:44.120that's a different identity that's not our identity in christ and that's not what the bible
00:41:48.740tells us the bible tells us that our brothers and because jesus whenever they they came to the tent
00:41:54.180he's inside the tent they said hey bro your your mom and your brother and sisters are outside the
00:41:58.920tent they want to talk to you and he goes who are my my mother and my brother and my sisters
00:42:03.360But those that follow the commandments of God
00:42:31.720I see I have the gift of exhortation, which means like I can talk to a prostitute and all I see are all the beautiful things that God sees about her.0.93
00:42:40.300You know, I can talk I can talk to people with really rough language or even a, you know, a Freemason person, you know, or whatever.0.61
00:42:47.920And I see what God has for them. And and I speak and I speak that out of my mouth, calling things that are not as though they are.
00:42:55.220because they're going to come to pass if I stay in agreement with heaven
00:42:59.300because I'm God's representative who he's in agreement with.
00:43:04.060He's operating through this realm, through his vessels that carry light.
00:43:10.960We're the only source of light in this dark realm.
00:44:37.540You know, that's crazy because I'm so hesitant to touch people.
00:44:40.800Yeah, I'm like very like I just I don't know what it is like I, you know, it's fine.
00:44:45.600I do hugs and I do, you know, handshakes and all that.
00:44:49.200But like prolonged physical, you know, contact is I'm always like it's only a matter of a couple of seconds before I'm looking for an escape route.
00:45:00.500But, you know, something one of the things that you said about not cursing witches, the reason that seems very obviously true to me, besides the fact that it's right there in Scripture tells you not to curse them, but because it's it's hard.
00:45:17.040and and the difficulty comes from this desire right this desire whether it's ego driven or
00:45:25.220it's driven by that offense right i've taken offense and so i want to get even i want to get
00:45:30.640uh revenge and it says vengeance is is not ours vengeance is the lord's um but i have i have a
00:45:38.160witch that my father is married to a witch a very open witch and um let's pray for her she well so
00:45:46.780this is i i do pray for her and i've never i i never thought about it but i've never said
00:45:52.720you know like curses or anything just that she would come out of that spirit come to the
00:46:00.000realization that jesus christ is the way the truth and the life that that god blesses them
00:46:04.680and lifts them up and ultimately every time i pray for somebody i say like let them become a
00:46:08.760righteous voice for your kingdom um but i i don't do that i actually don't do that and i never
00:46:13.980never thought about it it never crossed my mind to to really say and i know that
00:46:19.800i know that lady's done you know some things tried to do some things to me and my family
00:46:24.780i'm not worried about it i've watched her like i've watched her burn effigies little paper effigies0.99
00:46:30.740whisper stuff to them and stare at me and my my wife and my son while she's doing it and then0.99
00:46:37.400she puts them on the floor as they burn and then she gets another one and she whispers stuff to
00:46:42.740it and then sets it on fire and lets it burn very i don't know what she i don't care what she's
00:46:46.760doing um but it never crossed my mind to say something like whatever she's done to me put
00:46:52.700it back on her always just say like let them come out of that spirit uh let them break any
00:46:57.580agreements and bonds and and things like that they've come into what if you just said when
00:47:01.460she was doing that what if you said no you know you know you yeah that is the ultimate that's a
00:47:06.240curse this is what people don't know about doing curses on people if you hit them with the no you
00:47:10.200it just goes right back it is a curse you know you so i gotta stop you yeah i know that's it's
00:47:15.520like a uno card yeah so you get them back but you can't win them to the lord that way
00:47:21.640and ultimately that's what he's out for he's out to win them so but i would i would david i would
00:47:28.400um break any any curses hexes vexes spells incantations sorcery witchcraft divination
00:47:34.600all that you break that off and then you just go on about your happy life but um but yeah yeah
00:47:41.680if she's doing witchcraft you know right in front of you and looking at you while she's burning0.70
00:47:46.140the stuff sticking the voodoo doll and you know that was just dressed up with your clothes on0.51
00:47:51.260you know yeah she was putting uh her her panties oh yeah in the coffee uh you know you put the
00:47:58.780coffee thing in and you fill the grinds or whatever the big coffee whatever it's called
00:48:02.520i don't know how to make coffee you put the coffee in the thing it's not the k-cup it's the1.00
00:48:06.200the pot the coffee pot she's putting her panties in the coffee pot we caught her doing that
00:48:10.500um which is also like a whole thing it's like a love spell or whatever i'm like this is so goofy
00:48:15.420and the problem is you know she thinks that she's coming to agreement with all these spirits and
00:48:20.200they're helping her their lives are like it's a huge bummer you know they're not doing well the
00:48:24.400fruits of these spirits if you look at their lives they're you know maybe there's some good fortune
00:48:31.380that befalls them occasionally but everything is a struggle everything is falling apart their
00:48:35.780relationships are falling apart this is the same interaction that we had with um the chick who i
00:48:40.380said a bunch of mean things about i probably shouldn't have said a bunch of mean things about
00:48:43.260her uh danielle with the railian thing but what i was trying to get her to understand was she's
00:48:49.400telling me she's in contact with a uh some sort of a galactic maternal spirit that is her space mom
00:48:57.060okay and i go hey the fruits of your life because she's already explained to me like
00:49:03.300i'm in debilitating pain i'm addicted to uh opioids i all my relationships have fallen apart
00:49:10.400i'm you know uh experiencing basically psychosis and all this other stuff and i go you know the
00:49:17.580bible says um tell the spirits to confess i believe it's like to test the spirits to confess
00:49:23.900that jesus christ is the son of the living god and one of the other things is that uh just test
00:49:28.960the fruits and by that it seems to me and i could be wrong in my interpretation that just look at
00:49:34.500their lives look at the fruits that are coming from their interactions with this thing i'm like
00:49:39.080you're telling me you're in contact with something unbelievable and divine and your life is in
00:49:46.980shambles right there's something really wrong here and it's the same thing with my wiser sold
00:49:51.540out vip experience for your live show maybe yeah where's your vip tickets huh uh no no no no i
00:49:56.740don't want to say it's the spirit of pride uh but i but i am i observed the same thing in my father's
00:50:01.660life where i go he even tells me over the phone he's you know last time i talked to he's been a
00:50:06.200long time now but he goes yeah you know sometimes she does things and like some cool stuff happens
00:50:11.260i'm paraphrasing but that was basically it's like sometimes she does a spell and what do you know
00:50:15.320like we get what we want i'm like i don't know what that means you win 50 on a scratch off like
00:50:19.500what does that mean man because everything else looks real bad your relationships your health
00:50:24.520your you know all the things in your life so yeah well when things are falling apart in your life
00:50:28.600it's i think it's hard to pick up the pieces but this is what laura is talking about where
00:50:33.660you were doing that uh no you curse back on on these witches yeah but i don't even think
00:50:40.420you've remembered by the time that had come to roost you like you don't even know what you did
00:50:44.500in the past so like it's hard to kind of pick up the pieces of like where are you at now what have
00:50:49.100i've been doing and put that into perspective when your life is falling apart on yeah it is
00:50:54.260levels yeah that's that's what a lot of what these people that's what listen i'll tell you
00:50:58.560truth it's what i go through constantly too it's everybody deals with this thing about
00:51:02.260where they're at like you have to constantly pick up your life and go okay let me count all the
00:51:07.160pieces and take an inventory of what has happened over the last couple of years and what have i
00:51:12.540done wrong what have i done right what could i do more what could i do better right in the future
00:51:16.440not many people do this so people that are under that attack that are debilitating pain forget
00:51:21.760about it that's the last thing on their mind and that's why they continue to spiral and then what
00:51:25.620happens is it creates an opportunity to get into contact with some sort of predatory spirit that
00:51:30.900gives you obvious short-term gain so you interact with this thing because it presents itself to you
00:51:36.440and you do something to appease it and then some little aspect of your life has a measurable
00:51:41.480increase in, in, in, you know, what is perceived as positivity and you go, that's it. That's the
00:51:46.320thing. That's the thing that I'm going to follow now. That's the thing. And just what you said,
00:51:50.780it's like a scratch off. I mean, you know, you waste $5,000 on it and just cause you want 50
00:51:56.460bucks three times, you know? And so they keep on doing it, you know, you keep on doing it,
00:52:01.060keep wasting that money and it's designed to work that way. But the wages of sin is death
00:52:06.620and it will be the death of your body slowly, the death of your marriage, the death of your
00:52:11.380relationships, the death of your job, the death of your sanity, the death of whatever. And it's
00:52:16.800slowly dying. And they don't see that. They don't see the correlation. But yeah, we're not supposed
00:52:24.200to judge witches. And the reason I found that out was because I'm filled with the Holy Spirit.
00:52:32.100And I asked the Holy Spirit, he knows all things. He's the one who knows. So that's another thing
00:52:37.400is people need like when you're a christian you're born again you've received jesus christ
00:52:42.760as your lord and savior and then you go get water baptized there's another baptism baptism by fire
00:52:49.720and you definitely need that if you're ever going to walk in power if you're ever going to walk in
00:52:55.380boldness that's who has the boldness is the holy spirit that's who has the power and and john the
00:53:02.000Baptist said I'm baptizing you in water but one comes after me who will baptize you in fire and
00:53:08.740in the Holy Ghost so that is right there a whole lot of Christians they go because I've even asked0.97
00:53:16.260them I'm like what one of the evidences is that you you speak in tongues okay so um so I said if
00:53:24.600you don't speak in tongues why do you feel like you're um like you're filled with the Holy Spirit
00:53:30.040And they said, because whenever I converted to Christianity, that's when it happened.
00:53:35.880And I said, oh, OK, so what you think, OK, there's two different works of the Holy Spirit.
00:53:41.480The first one is automatic. You're sealed. You're sealed by the Holy Spirit.
00:53:46.480You belong to Jesus. That is automatic. So it's not commanded.
00:53:49.980The other thing is not automatic and it tells you to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
00:53:54.800And so it is commanded. That's when like when Peter, they say, well, what do we do?
00:53:59.480And Peter says, all of you be baptized and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
00:54:06.860And one of the evidences is your prayer language.
00:54:10.660And it even tells you when you don't know what to pray, pray in the spirit.
00:54:15.040You go pray in tongues and you will pray.
00:54:16.900He prays the perfect prayer through you.
00:54:19.520And it even says that sometimes words that you can't even articulate what it is because you're so grieved or you're in such a state that sighs.
00:54:29.340come out of you or groans that is that is the expression of the holy spirit praying for you
00:54:36.000through you and the perfect prayer to bring in so you want to be filled you want to be baptized in
00:54:41.460fire and that's the difference when you look at christians that walk in power and in strength
00:54:46.840and they they stay in the game um you know people like me they they will always be filled with the
00:54:54.000holy spirit and then you have your nominal christians not not anything against them they
00:54:58.840and they're going to go to heaven and everything, but they're not going to walk in the strength of
00:55:02.360their inheritance. This is our inheritance. And you walk in it now. You don't have to wait till
00:55:07.740you go to heaven. You walk in that power and that strength now. And so I needed to know at my,
00:55:13.180in my time of need, I needed to know what the hell is going on. Why am I smacking my head into
00:55:18.820chairs and falling off the bed backwards and laying in a bed, you know, with blood clots.
00:55:23.200And he says, there's a judgment against you. Well, I teach on spiritual law. So he's speaking
00:55:27.940in my language. I know what that means. I said, okay, well, what is it? And then he said, don't
00:55:32.640you know, they know how to boomerang too. Now we can judge other Christians because they're in our
00:55:37.800kingdom, but it's to be in love. So if you were doing stuff, like if you two guys were doing
00:55:43.300something, let's say y'all just got really big. You got a hundred thousand subscribers. Y'all are
00:55:48.040super rich. You're walking in all kinds of pride. And I would come to y'all and say, guys, you know,
00:55:53.940I love you. I love you guys. But I got to tell you, man, y'all are on the razor's edge. Like
00:55:59.560you're going down and pride comes before fall. And I don't want you to lose your show. I don't
00:56:04.860want you to lose your families. Because the enemy's not going after like, you know, your
00:56:11.140tangible stuff. He's going after your thoughts. That's what he's going to go after. He's going
00:56:15.740to go after the way you think. He's going to go after your perspective because he's got you.
00:56:19.980when he's got that he's got you he's got you if you're if you're down and out if you're prideful
00:56:24.940if you're whatever you got to keep yourself in check all the time stay in prayer and I just
00:56:30.240regularly repent for pride because one of the aspects of pride is that you can't see it so I
00:56:35.560just regularly repent for that and ask the Lord put it before me in a way I can see it show me
00:56:41.780examples so that I can repent and correct those things. Um, also like, you'll know you're not in
00:56:50.020pride when you can humble yourself. And, and let's say I slandered you guys on another show
00:56:55.480and then the Lord dealt with me. And then I, I called you up and said, Hey, I, I slandered you
00:57:01.820guys and I'm sorry. And I just repent and, um, you don't have to accept it, but I just, I just
00:57:08.040want to um apologize to you i'm really sorry then it's on you the ball's in your court and it's up
00:57:13.940to you whether or not you're going to forgive that person but once you humble yourself and you do that
00:57:18.860a couple of times it becomes very easy to say hey i don't have it all figured out and i screwed up
00:57:23.860and i'm wrong and it's it's okay it's okay to do that it's okay to be like that but you know our
00:57:28.900society teaches like no double down don't ever admit it don't ever admit it you know they tell
00:57:34.280us double down don't admit it don't humble yourself that's wrong yeah it's it's it's a
00:57:40.420tricky place to be you know um this is something that i'm learning because i actually came from
00:57:44.760a background that was it was very easy to apologize um and then i i came to another
00:57:51.580place where once you become like any kind of a public character um everybody and their mother
00:57:57.160wants to uh say something and much of it the vast majority of it is not in good faith it's just like
00:58:04.260this thing people want to cast a stone because they're uh they feel like they're underrepresented
00:58:09.840they don't have an opportunity to engage in the discourse they hear you say something or they read
00:58:13.900you say something and rather than just come at you in a reasonable way which honestly would
00:58:18.240probably fall on on deaf ears because there's so many comments so many messages uh they say
00:58:22.720something super reactive and super uh you know i would call it out of pocket and then what that
00:58:28.560does is it it evokes this response to me where now we're going back and forth and i have this
00:58:34.460one foot in comedy and and you know so i say these things where they start off in jest and
00:58:40.460the next thing i know i am behaving in a way that's like prideful and arrogant but it's still
00:58:45.580like coated with so much comedy that um it is coming off it's landing that way so everybody's
00:58:51.980seeing it as jokes and i i'm i'm grateful that i still have this ability to let a thing go so i
00:58:58.380could go all the way up to that line where me and this other person are um in what looks like
00:59:04.280sort of this alvarito i mean i called alvarito this is kind of one of those instances right
00:59:10.880where like i think i'm god uniquely equipped me to be at least in this place right now because
00:59:19.400um i i learned somewhere along the line when i was younger that an apology is free it doesn't
00:59:29.520cost you anything and it is often incredibly meaningful to like another person and so i i've
00:59:36.640done that enough times to feel that release like i know what that release is when when there's all
00:59:41.320this contention and then all of a sudden somebody just says a few simple words and a few in a really
00:59:46.040simple order and all of a sudden the the the tension's released so you know in the alvarino
00:59:50.360thing i'm like in that comedy i'm in and i'm also in this prideful place and i'm trying at times to
00:59:58.280not cross the line i'm making him a cat i'm dressing like him this is all very silly and i
01:00:02.960don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with that but then there are times where all of
01:00:06.660a sudden i step forward and i've stepped on like a live wire and it's it's made me reactive and now
01:00:13.180now i'm in a place where i'm like do i really hate this mother like i like it and i'm getting
01:00:17.540kind of crazy you know um and then something happened where uh you know we were joking we
01:00:24.700were joking here in the studio and it was just like this prospect of calling him came up and
01:00:29.860that has his number like yeah you should call him after this and dave was like yeah i think i will
01:00:34.020and i just called him and then i told him i was i said i said to him like i i want to apologize
01:00:39.880and I hope that you can forgive me like I was making sure like this isn't like a disingenuous
01:00:44.140thing and I and I I learned in apologizing the best thing you can do is explain to a person
01:00:51.940exactly what you did that you know crossed the line and that that helps yes to be genuine and
01:00:57.840I told him I was like dude I was dabbling in this comedy and then you asked for this debate and so
01:01:03.980i decided to look into what you were about and i thought i found something and you know it's first
01:01:11.100it's funny then it's conspiracy then it's funny then it's conspiracy and it's like left foot right
01:01:14.860foot left foot right foot and i go to this place where like now i'm uh i'm dragging you on the
01:01:22.980internet in in the fashion of like an insane person which i will admit has its comedic value
01:01:30.340to it you know because i i do a thing and behave in a way where like people it's like a spectacle
01:01:35.920like what is he doing and i i really take a lot of pleasure in like dancing around that line where
01:01:41.980you're not even sure if i actually dislike this person you know what i mean like that's that's
01:01:45.220one of my favorite places to be in comedy is where you're not sure that i even dislike this person at0.95
01:01:49.520all and um but man is it's a it's a a wonky line to walk and i'm just an idiot and and i'm just a0.84
01:01:58.760man so i'm gonna when you're walking that edge you said you that razor's edge i'm gonna slip0.77
01:02:04.140and i'm gonna go too far this way and too far that way but i'm just grateful that that god
01:02:10.180gives me this ability because i i don't think it's it's i think it is an ability i think it's
01:02:15.840something you you can train but it's like a skill almost that i can actually apologize
01:02:20.360and like let a thing go because i've seen people in this space get contentious with one another
01:02:27.140and they will do it forever david ike is one of those guys where like david ike hates alex jones
01:02:33.640so much that it's it's morphed his face like it's made him so and it's like this dude is
01:02:41.740you know he's up there i don't know if he's if he's 70 is david ike 70 now probably no way he's
01:02:46.400he's up there and he is filled with so much hatred so whatever you think that this thing is
01:02:52.900doing to the other person it's doing it to you too like it's doing it to you there's a
01:02:56.740I don't know. Something I struggle with. I spoke about maybe even the last time with you, but the idea of pride, it's like I went from having zero pride and that is actually not great to do because people then take advantage of you.
01:03:11.420I mean, the last time somebody took advantage of me wasn't great. And then I had to, again, display pride. But it's like it's it's a way to like dissuade people from doing that again.
01:03:22.020but then it goes too far like many things but one of the first times i don't know i was a
01:03:27.620i'm a musician i wrote five songs a guy stole it and then just performed it with somebody else and
01:03:35.680i was like hey you could have asked you know like i wrote those songs music lyrics everything and he
01:03:42.520goes oh just because you were in the room doesn't mean you had anything to do with it and i was like0.66
01:03:46.100that's fucking crazy to say because you'll never write another song because i wrote those and of0.86
01:03:51.580course he doesn't because he can't and i'm like so i don't like you know maybe i should have0.98
01:03:56.540claimed a little bit more ownership over this instead of being like humble and saying like
01:04:01.420yeah you know this is ours because i was working where you were singing the guy was singing it and
01:04:05.820you know i have now discussed this afterward with him he apologized but like doesn't change the fact
01:04:10.960that that happened and i'm like now i have to go back and take take uh some inventory about what i
01:04:16.200did wrong but i think that's it right we're just we're just humans we're just humans and we're0.51
01:04:20.780sinners and we're retards and we're children we're learning we're the children of god we're0.64
01:04:26.040children we're learning you know yeah and and just just what top was saying i mean you after the fact
01:04:32.260you assessed it and thought where could i have done things differently you know how could i and
01:04:37.820because there's i don't think there's anything wrong with being ticked off that someone's
01:04:41.220stealing taking credit for something you did there's nothing wrong with that but um allowing
01:04:46.960it to eat you up, you know, that's not good. And then speaking your piece to him is exactly what
01:04:53.440you did, which is good. And then it's on him. And he, it was good that he finally admitted,
01:04:59.100you know, he's trying to, he's trying to just, you know, make light of it. Like it wasn't a big
01:05:03.820deal. It is a big deal. It's stealing somebody else's creativity and, um, taking credit for
01:05:10.040something that you didn't do. And what's funny, I don't even think you realized it top. You spoke
01:05:14.080over him and you said you'll never make another song again because you can't and so you're
01:05:18.960literally speaking that that's a curse that's a word it wasn't a curse i didn't i didn't mean it
01:05:23.820to curse him i'm just observation it's the truth it's the truth like i have a minor in music you
01:05:29.280just you sing well i'm not a singer you don't do this you can't make this and it's not that you
01:05:34.940will never maybe you can go to school and figure it out or maybe you'll be you know channel some
01:05:38.980whatever and and do it but no you can't do this thing because it's it well number one that was
01:05:47.000directly for me that's it was a song that i wrote for my girlfriend now wife so no you can't make
01:05:51.620that song you can't do it in the style that i did it because i studied and it took a lot of time for
01:05:56.700me to do this and it's within my personality and you don't have that skill set i know him for a
01:06:01.000long time that's not what you do so like you can't do that you can't steal claim and then think that
01:06:06.680you're going to replicate because that's not what you do so i just told him it was like i guess it's
01:06:11.880like a it's not a curse but i'm just letting you know you will not write a song because you did not
01:06:20.140write a song you know what i mean it's like because he can't it's not his skill set right
01:06:25.400yeah i'm not trying to curse him hopefully he does you know i hope he does learn and write
01:06:32.200songs but not but that mentality also of like you stole so if you stole a thing that means that
01:06:37.580you're not going to go back and and then learn how to do a thing because you stole it and you
01:06:41.780think that you keep stealing and it's like you what i'm saying is like you're not going to get
01:06:46.260another you're not going to have another song because i'm not going to write one for you to
01:06:49.060take because that's what you just did here you know what i mean yeah but you're right you're
01:06:53.540right they reap what they've sung that's a law that's a spiritual law but then i have to show
01:06:58.300pride you know what i mean now i have to now i have to be like no no no because before it was
01:07:03.020a very like you know okay yeah let's do that we're doing this together but then i have to go no no0.89
01:07:07.900me you know screw you because now you've already done that and you've kicked me to the side as if
01:07:14.220you've done a thing and then when i look back at it that's not right that's not pride that's learning0.98
01:07:20.140that's that's you you um you know learning that he can't be trusted now he has to develop and
01:07:28.460work on building your trust in him again um because you're going to be apprehensive to do
01:07:33.180anything around him because of what he did to you so um it's not pride that's not pride pride is
01:07:39.560like you know you taking taking credit for like your show being amazing that's because god has
01:07:47.520bestowed that upon you. He's using you guys to, um, to reach a lot of people that don't go to
01:07:53.840churches and don't want to go to a church, you know, because of the hypocrisy and everything
01:07:59.440or whatever. And he's using that. But if you walk around like Nebuchadnezzar and go, look at what I
01:08:04.940have made, look at everything I have established. It's all me and David. Um, he didn't bring you
01:08:12.160down. He's going to bring you down. That's pride. And so, but you, you reacting to, um, a betrayal
01:08:19.420is that's not pride. That's just you being hurt, offended, but your, your job is to not stay there
01:08:27.540because it'll start eating at you. And then it'll start coming out in the form of illnesses
01:08:32.180through you. If you start letting bitterness come in because of what they did, but you told him,
01:08:37.080You told him, you know, look, this is how how I feel about this.
01:09:46.320It just was kind of the same, you know, episode every time, which is whatever.
01:09:51.440And he then turned on us, even though we had invited him on when a lot of people didn't.
01:09:58.560And we even invited him to our live event to perform on our stage and, you know, all these things.
01:10:02.120uh he he started calling us like amateurs and and midwits and everything which like okay fine
01:10:08.880fair not wrong not wrong and so you know i ignored him a lot 90 of the interactions i ignored him
01:10:16.640and then one day he came out of the blue again and he calls us amateurs there's like some benign
01:10:22.140post on twitter it's really not important but he comes along and he goes these guys are amateurs
01:10:27.820that's why they're not gonna they don't know the answer to this conspiracy i'm not even gonna
01:10:32.460defend whether or not we did and i finally got upset with them and i started to uh go hey why
01:10:39.820are you being such a this word and that word and he goes oh well you're too afraid to to name the
01:10:47.900the jews and i go we've already uh done a million episodes on this topic and and um but whatever so
01:10:56.620this is where the thing that i i would love your assessment on he goes um i don't even want to be
01:11:04.220on your your show it has no value you guys are amateurs and you're nothing compared to me and i
01:11:10.700go hmm and i i i just so happened to look at his there's like a show called i mean a website called
01:11:18.060listen notes and it'll tell you the percentile that your show is in and i noticed that our show
01:11:24.540was ranked significantly higher than his and i and i just show him these things and i go
01:11:31.580what are you talking about why are you saying this our show is literally ranked higher than
01:11:34.620your show and i don't know if i'm like stepping into the realm of pride yet um but he ignores
01:11:41.020that he calls us this and that we make a post and the post is literally i don't even know it
01:11:46.060was a clip from this show and laura i couldn't tell you what we were talking about we were talking
01:11:51.580about like um sport drink and we were talking about well whether or not elephants had breasts
01:11:58.640like women and all these crazy things oh boy and then i take that clip and i go by the way
01:12:04.780this show is ranked higher than dustin nemos's show because it's so it's so hilarious to me
01:12:11.000that um you know he he rests his his his crown on like all the intellectual and the research and
01:12:19.180all these other things and i'm like our show is better than yours we're talking about elephant0.97
01:12:21.700tits why is that happening um but i'm mocking him i'm mocking him and i'm wondering did i cross in0.90
01:12:28.760that moment is that like a crossing over into pride because now i am i'm using this thing i'm
01:12:33.500going look at our show is better than your show we're talking about goofy things it's it's a way0.68
01:12:38.040of saying you suck um but then i'm also putting it on my twitter to show potentially thousands of0.94
01:12:45.620people this this thing is that crossing it or or does he deserve that um it all depends on the0.99
01:12:54.780motive of your heart if your mode if the motive of your heart is to cause division um to sow
01:13:00.640division within the body of christ um to exalt yourself or abase another christian because he's
01:13:07.180a christian and um even though even though he he definitely needs deliverance um or he wouldn't be
01:13:13.540instigating the kind of things he's instigating with you in the first place he wouldn't be doing
01:13:17.220that he would be um he'd be praying for you guys and he would be praying for you to prosper
01:13:22.780and for for your show to prosper as much if not more than his it says in the word that we're
01:13:28.860supposed to think of our brothers and sisters as more important than us and treat them as such and
01:13:34.320give them the better portion you know when when you've got you know like two nice steaks in front
01:13:38.960of you, you're supposed to give them the better one. And, um, and so you see where it's a wrong
01:13:44.020heart on his end in the first place. And you're like, well, I'm just going to put you in your
01:13:48.260place because somebody needs to do it. And, um, I used to be like that. And boy, I would whack
01:13:53.840people to pieces with my words and the truth. And, um, the Holy spirit said, he told me I could
01:13:59.900hear him. He said, that is not how I do it. And I said, this was in the beginning for me.
01:14:06.260And I said, but everything I said was true. And he said, he said, yes, it was true. But your delivery stinks. That's what he told me. Your delivery stinks. And because I would, I would, I was like Robin Hood, you know, I would come to the rescue of anybody that was being beat down by a bully or whatever, verbally. And I'd go, oh, oh, really? Well, okay, let's go over you for a minute.
01:14:31.220And then I would go back, back, back, back, back, and just start laying out truth after truth after truth until they're nothing but a puddle of tears in the corner.
01:14:38.940Right. And then I'd be like, somebody had to do it. Thank you so much.
01:14:42.960I'll pat myself on the back and think that I, you know, I did a good thing, like, you know, for the kingdom of God.
01:14:48.640I set them right. But the motive of my heart was wrong.
01:14:53.460and um and they didn't they didn't a lot of times people act the way they act because of
01:15:01.540traumas like for for dustin i can definitely tell you that guy has some traumas in his childhood
01:15:09.940and that's why he he acts the way he does and so instead of berating him we should be praying for
01:15:17.180him and for him to break free from because he's got spirits that are operating through him and
01:15:22.040and it's coming out on his show. And, um, and then when he wants to perk up the numbers or
01:15:26.860whatever, then he's going to lash out at y'all or, you know, or somebody else to, um, to get
01:15:32.180the numbers, you know, kicking back up and tell a sob story about his life or whatever. So that
01:15:37.240everybody will start sending checks in, you know, or whatever, that's how it works. So, um, so,
01:15:42.320you know, he, he's in a wrong place and you don't want to go, you don't want to lower yourself to
01:15:46.720that. You want to, you know, just say, yeah, brother, you know, like him, he, he, I was on a
01:15:52.060show with him too. And then after that, cause I just, cause I went on this guy's show, he trashed
01:15:56.860me and, and I took it to the Lord and I said, what do you, you know, should I call him? Should
01:16:04.100I call him and ask him, dude, like, what's up? Why are you doing that? Like, I've never done
01:16:08.160anything to you. And the Lord said, let me handle it. And, and I did, and I let it go. And I prayed
01:16:13.920for him and i prayed for him to be set free you know and delivered from whatever kind of spirits
01:16:19.160are operating in him so and it's a great i mean i'm not i don't want to get like get have you get
01:16:25.720down on yourself or whatever but it's a growth process i have to do i've learned these things
01:16:30.880because i do deliverance and the lord has dealt with me you know several times on different things
01:16:36.720Like like this one time I was coming back from a from a conference and as I was headed back home down to South Texas, I was approaching a town called Yoakum.
01:16:49.540And I remember reading that Yoakum had a lot of child trafficking in it.
01:16:54.760And I said, oh, Lord. So, you know, Yoakum's 10 minutes ahead.
01:16:58.880i'm going to pull over into some big parking lot and i'm going to go to town on these demonic
01:17:04.040spirits and trafficking spirits and spirits that do this that and the other and i'm going to break
01:17:09.080their power i'm going to break their their assignments and you know i'm telling him all
01:17:12.480the stuff i'm going to do and i said if you want me to if you want me to i'll do that and i was
01:17:17.740geared up i was fired up because i've just come from that um from that conference and i had bought
01:17:23.860a book at the conference and it was sitting over in my seat and the Lord said pull over and um I was
01:17:31.980like why I mean just talk to me like I could you can talk to me while I'm driving and I'm on a
01:17:36.980highway and um and he says it again pull over and I'm thinking is this me thinking this and I thought
01:17:45.760no because why am I telling myself to pull over that'll make me sit and I was like I just don't
01:17:50.820understand why you just can't talk to me and then he says it definitively the third time pull over
01:17:55.260like I'm not going to say it again so I was like okay so I pull over I find a business and they're
01:18:00.380closed because it's Sunday their gate is closed and I just pull over into the entrance and I'm
01:18:05.220sitting there and I'm like okay here I am you know I'm I'm uh pulled over and I'm just sitting there
01:18:14.700like what did you want to say and I'm getting bored so I look over and I grab that book
01:18:20.160and I open it up and I'm not kidding you. I open it up to this chapter and it says
01:18:25.080territorial warfare. Never, ever, ever go into another territory that you, where you don't live,
01:18:32.460you don't have any skin in the game. You don't pay taxes there and start spiritual warfare. You
01:18:36.560will get your butt kicked. I'm paraphrasing, but that's, yeah. So I've learned things through my1.00
01:18:42.660walk with the Lord of how to respond and how these things work. Another time I was walking my street
01:18:50.120I live out in the country and I cross one river and then there's a creek after that.
01:18:57.740So I'm repenting for the sins that have been committed in my territory and then taking authority over those spirits.
01:19:04.360I'm putting them under the blood, putting the sin under the blood and dealing with it, you know, through Christ and then taking authority over those spirits and rendering them powerless in my territory.
01:19:15.460And and I said, I'm going to go all the way around the mountain, Lord.
01:19:19.040and he said don't he said stop at the creek and i was like why i already i got my water bottle i'm
01:19:26.400you know i'm all geared up i'm ready to go i'm walking loaded i've already got my mind and he
01:19:30.500said don't like he told me again kind of stronger don't go past the creek and as i'm approaching it
01:19:38.160i'm thinking in my head i'm just going to keep going yeah i'm just going to keep on going and
01:19:42.380then I heard him and it was very strong and it was like I said don't and I said okay okay I feel
01:19:49.980you like I feel it but why and he said one word he said the name of my county and I didn't realize
01:19:57.820until he said it that my county line changes at that creek I have no business going and stirring
01:20:05.280up because demonic spirits have territories they like you know it says that we we are over powers
01:20:12.680and we're warring with powers and principalities and rulers of darkness spirit spiritual wickedness
01:20:18.060in high places well prince principality spirits are prince spirits over like the prince of persia
01:20:24.120they have territories the prince of greece those are principality spirits so they have territories
01:20:29.480all the way down to your hometown, and they, you know, work through demonically inspired people
01:20:38.860to release darkness into regions. That's why you'll see some regions, they've got a liquor
01:20:45.380store on every corner, and a bunch of, you know, poverty, and, you know, it's poverty stricken,0.99
01:20:50.760and men's clubs everywhere, and they have that territory, and, you know, Christians that are
01:20:56.560living in that territory are not taking authority over them and binding them. Like I was saying0.99
01:21:03.780earlier, if you went by a men's club every day, let's say you drove past one every day on your0.98
01:21:08.400way to work and it's in your territory, you could say, I bind the demonic spirits that operate in0.53
01:21:14.000there. They're not allowed to function in the people. They're not allowed to function in the
01:21:17.820girls that are dancing. They're not allowed to function in the guys that are coming in
01:21:21.700to get a lap dance. They're not allowed to function in the owners. They're not allowed
01:21:26.060to do anything you can't do anything and eventually that place will close down because they can't
01:21:31.340through the people they cannot function so you have authority over the demons like in dustin
01:21:37.320he's got spirits and you want to you want to wage warfare with that and not with him because he's
01:21:44.000human and he's a son of god i told him you know i told him that i was like um you know it probably
01:21:50.880sounded comedic and punchy but i told him like he's got something whispering in his ear because
01:21:56.640there's in my estimation there's no reason there's no reason we've only ever been kind to him uh
01:22:03.840you know heard him out a bunch of times invited him the only thing that we did was no didn't
01:22:10.400invite him on a fourth or a fifth time or whatever it was that's the only thing that we were guilty
01:22:15.200of and it's like i know the thing that makes you go like you know hit send on it like go go and go
01:22:22.020and attack this guy instead of like asking a question or engaging in like uh you know some
01:22:27.180sort of a conversation about the logistics of the topic it's just like insult him and that's kind of
01:22:32.960it's kind of why so yeah i insult people a lot yeah me too sometimes not sometimes but when it
01:22:41.300when it does go too far is when i don't leave them any room it's like uh if you're wrestling
01:22:47.660with your your son and you want him to always want to play yeah you have to let him win a little bit
01:22:55.420or when you when you defeat him you don't defeat him and it's like if i'm wrestling with him i don't
01:23:00.480hold him down where he can't move an inch and he tries to move his head and i put his head down
01:23:04.900and just show him like complete dominance yeah we kind of i a little bit with alberino i did that
01:23:10.660And I was like, yeah, that's not because that's not fun.
01:23:14.700The whole point of that of when I am doing that to people just for me is because I'm like I'm playing with you and I'm leaving something open.
01:23:38.040And then after a while they go, wait, he's not so bad.
01:23:40.200and now we're kind of friends well you know what it is it's like we'll walk into here and it'll be0.99
01:23:45.740like what's up faggot yep yeah yeah you know what i mean like it's like it you start with the start0.99
01:23:50.700with the craziest thing yeah and then we work our way back but with yeah same thing with dustin0.98
01:23:54.620that's what happened with him and i even gave him a chance to like a couple months back where i was
01:23:58.180like listen we're gonna have this conversation i'm not happy i don't want to talk to you we're
01:24:01.160gonna have the conversation i'm gonna and i'm gonna express to you because i felt like you
01:24:03.980deserved it this last time i let him go on there and i felt like that's kind of what i was trying
01:24:09.960to me it was funny but what i'm trying to do is like like here's you here's you like yeah when
01:24:15.700you are typing that like like i can't imagine what's going through your head because it's crazy
01:24:19.860shit like it's unwarranted out of nowhere but show up to this i'm going to put you full screen and0.86
01:24:25.340you're looking right at yourself and the chat is making fun of you but you have to now look at0.97
01:24:28.720yourself and say any anybody's not capable of it now so i showed him and it's mean but i can't
01:24:35.980change his mind i i can only i can only put this on display and hopefully you'll you'll learn you'll
01:24:41.620see you'll be embarrassed and maybe you'll have to regroup and take inventory he he wasn't capable
01:24:46.680of that not yet no no he he probably went back to his show and then talked about you know what0.93
01:24:54.840a douchebag both of y'all are he went on his show and declared victory he was like look guys they
01:24:59.340didn't they were too afraid to show up to their own debate i was like i was sitting on the sofa0.93
01:25:02.580with my wife watching uh a show and then the point of that is like it's still i i blocked him
01:25:09.120because it was it would have gotten yeah it would have gotten to the point where it's like i really
01:25:12.720don't like you and then i'm gonna start to get i'm still dealing with it i'm still watching him post
01:25:17.220no the fact that he's on our show and nobody's there as like it's some sort of victory and i'm
01:25:22.200just like people keep asking me they're like when are you guys gonna do an episode i'm like i just
01:25:25.020don't want to i don't care about his information it's just like gross behavior like i don't want
01:25:29.840to talk to you because you're being weird you're not going to come but i think laura's right there
01:25:33.120is something there and it's like it's heartbreaking because you could see a person that's stuck
01:25:36.820yeah and i'm like man you're stuck and i don't know how to help you um but he does this it's not
01:25:43.040just us we're not we're not special we're not unique in this like this is just a thing that
01:25:47.220he does where like he's been fighting everybody on the internet and it's about his superiority
01:25:53.340he's like i'm the greatest nephilim expert i'm like that's a weird that's a weird thing to say
01:25:59.380And usually if you do that, you're usually you're dealing with spirits of insecurity and it's covered up with all of the I'm the greatest thing, you know, or severe pride.
01:26:10.200It's one or the other or both. So that's what's really going on.
01:26:14.260And, you know, you pray for them in that light and bind those spirits from or just say opposing forces or forces of darkness or whatever.
01:26:22.240If you don't know which one it is and and pray for the Lord to send forth the word and rescue him because he's he's in a pit.
01:26:29.380he's stuck like top said he's stuck it's got a shitty place to be yeah it is and he's better
01:26:35.300than that he's you know he does some good research and everything and but he's stuck he is stuck on0.65
01:26:41.700the jew thing and he got stuck in that place of where he's at and i think he could be um even0.62
01:26:48.760better and greater if he could you know get get rid of all of the bitterness and the anger and1.00
01:26:54.020he's got just black you know I always just think golly does he ever sleep oh my gosh it just breaks0.78
01:27:00.040my heart to see you know I think he had a heart attack he's so young and and so there's some
01:27:05.900issue he had a heart attack like I don't know a couple years ago and um yeah so see it's like
01:27:12.980that's stuff that's inside you know that needs to um yeah well that's the thing is our our you
01:27:19.920know people that know us they see these interactions he's like calling he's like you
01:27:23.380guys are afraid i'm like that's kind of never been our mo in fact we're we're oftentimes uh too um
01:27:30.100i don't want to say fearless because it sounds egotistical but like to it y'all are not afraid0.98
01:27:34.800definitely we do a lot of stupid things say a lot of stupid things that like you know i don't even0.98
01:27:39.340know if if all of them have to be said um you know so to our own detriment but uh i don't know0.99
01:27:45.440you know it's it's what you're supposed to do right is pray for them that's that's somebody
01:27:48.820who i have forgotten uh whenever i try to do that thing where i get alone with god and i'm like
01:27:54.660enemies to pray for not that he's my enemy i don't see him as yeah it's just like people that i i
01:27:59.940i don't look at them as enemies because i don't think i have enemies and i don't hate anybody
01:28:04.180praying for your enemies is is a weird because really it's people that i that should be um not
01:28:10.980the first and foremost in my mind to pray for people that i'm like have animosity with maybe
01:28:16.100my animosity i don't know what the word i almost said animosity um so so you were saying something
01:28:22.100before that i want to touch on and it's not going to these other places where you don't have
01:28:27.060spiritual authority going into like different counties or different you know strongholds where
01:28:31.620different entities exist um you know a new battleground new enemies uh what are some things
01:28:39.380that give you spiritual authority in because i mean like i know you kind of said it almost
01:28:44.980jokingly but this idea of like you don't pay taxes in that county and it's like when you said that
01:28:50.180i thought back to a time where like i had purchased my first home and i was having all kinds of weird
01:28:54.580things happen and i thought i'm the new homeowner here even if these things are left over even if
01:28:59.460there's some weird energy here some door's been opened this is my home now total new ball game
01:29:05.700i can take authority over this place and i was like really early in my walk but i thought just
01:29:10.740through the sense of the legal um aspect of the spiritual realm that since i am the new legal
01:29:18.260owner of this home i should be able to cast these things out and lay down you know my own ground
01:29:23.620rules claim this space for jesus christ things like that um and i know it's kind of a a silly
01:29:29.700question but like even the idea of like paying taxes right render unto caesar what is caesar's
01:29:34.500like the systems that we have here god recognizes them i think in many cases like what is the
01:29:40.340proper what's the proper system of belonging in a place right like what gives you additional
01:29:45.620authority here like if i am here and i'm paying to not even paying taxes i think sometimes people
01:29:50.520are in places that they shouldn't be and they continue to make it fit but what do you what's
01:29:56.120your perspective on that okay so whatever is binding in the earth is bound in heaven and
01:30:02.760what is loosed in the earth is loosed in heaven okay remember you're a representative of a different
01:30:07.980kingdom and a kingdom is in heaven and you are the representative here on the earth. So if you have
01:30:15.380binding agreements like a house purchase or like a rental agreement or even the studio that you're
01:30:23.560in, let's say it's in a different zip code, but you and Matt have a binding agreement, then you
01:30:29.820have skin in the game. You have a vested interest. It is binding. It is a binding document and your
01:30:36.980authority comes into it if you rent a hotel room you can slap your hand on the wall and say in the
01:30:43.840name of jesus i take authority over this hotel right now because you paid you paid for you know
01:30:50.060you it's transactions and it's binding and and there's agreements they remember everything's
01:30:55.680about agreement to a an earthly court that would hold up in court well your honor this individual
01:31:01.260entered my hotel room that i had legally paid for meaning that it was contractually mine for
01:31:06.580a period of 24 hours kind of a deal so if that holds up in a court of law on earth then it holds
01:31:11.880up in in a spiritual court that's right that's exactly right and everything is judicial that's
01:31:18.640what i said before everything is judicial it holds up in court and he's saying if you've got a binding
01:31:24.480and people use the scriptures of binding and loosing for demons and um you you can actually
01:31:30.520do that, bind demons, that's in the book of Enoch, binding demons, but it's more about binding