Nephilim Death Squad - Hybridization Program ｜ Karin Wilkinson

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00:00:30.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

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00:01:33.620 Can we do the Florida Illuminati?

00:01:34.900 I think it's a really—

00:01:36.460 Honestly, yeah, I like this one.

00:01:37.380 I like that one.

00:01:38.060 I like the Florida Illuminati.

00:01:38.740 It's a little misunderstood, but we have some fun with it.

00:01:40.800 It is.

00:01:41.140 It's just when they accuse you of being a fed or a plant or whatever, you just go—

00:01:45.260 You make a T-shirt about it.

00:01:46.500 I'm part of the FI, the Florida Illuminati.

00:01:49.040 Joining us today, finally, after a long time, is Karen Wilkinson.

00:01:53.520 Really happy to have you.

00:01:55.860 Really important conversation we're going to get into today.

00:01:58.080 But before we do all of that, let's tell people where they can find you and what you're all about, Karen.

00:02:03.420 Well, thanks, guys.

00:02:04.320 I am just so happy to finally make this happen and be on here with you guys.

00:02:07.520 It's my honor to be here.

00:02:10.020 Karen Wilkinson, you can find me at my website, karenwilkinsonauthor.com.

00:02:15.580 Social media, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, under my name, Karen Wilkinson.

00:02:22.420 There's a link tree on my Facebook page that will get you to all of the different sites,

00:02:27.300 and I can send that to you guys to share as well.

00:02:29.560 So if you do want to get in touch with me, please don't leave me a message on social media.

00:02:34.540 I do not monitor those email boxes, but you can reach me through my website,

00:02:38.580 and then I'll actually get an email from you, and I can get back to you.

00:02:41.820 So I highly recommend that if you want to reach out to me.

00:02:45.360 And the book is available at lamarzulli.com.

00:02:48.760 You guys, Karen, over there with LAMarzulli.net.

00:02:52.680 .net.

00:02:53.280 Oh, that's right, yeah.

00:02:54.080 Yeah, it's at both .com and .net.

00:02:55.760 We have fixed that, so now you can get there either way.

00:02:58.200 Okay, perfect, perfect.

00:02:59.560 The work that you guys are doing over there with L.A., it's you, Vicki Joy Anderson, L.A. Marzulli.

00:03:04.580 Hugely important, especially when it comes to kind of this deception that's being pushed right now.

00:03:10.920 And I kind of wanted to start this conversation off with your story,

00:03:16.280 and you've had some personal experience with this phenomenon

00:03:20.060 that a lot of people are only speculating on from the outside looking in.

00:03:23.660 And I was on X, formerly Twitter, recently, and there was a post that was going viral.

00:03:31.000 Actually, it was from a very popular show, The Danny Jones Show, out here.

00:03:34.660 I think he's in Florida.

00:03:35.460 And, you know, so-called expert, which I don't know what it means to be an expert these days,

00:03:40.780 but, you know, is saying that he believes he understands what this abduction phenomenon is.

00:03:46.500 To be an expert, you just have to say that you're an expert.

00:03:48.600 That you have to be bold enough to state it.

00:03:50.160 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:50.720 We're experts.

00:03:51.400 We are experts.

00:03:52.100 And so what he says is that the phenomenon, the UFO, alien abduction phenomenon,

00:03:58.680 in his estimation, is actually completely psychological.

00:04:05.940 There's no aspect of it that takes place in physical reality whatsoever,

00:04:11.180 and that this is simply the universe giving the individual a fear test,

00:04:17.820 which was incredibly reductive, in my opinion, in my expert opinion.

00:04:23.880 And it was going viral to the tune of millions, and surely would have been seen by millions.

00:04:29.220 And I said, that is just, it's a shame.

00:04:33.080 It's a lack of information.

00:04:34.960 And I know, or I assume that you disagree with much of that, Karen.

00:04:39.720 So if you could, kind of, for the audience's sake, I'm very familiar with you.

00:04:45.220 I'm happy to say that.

00:04:46.080 I'm very familiar with Karen's work.

00:04:47.560 Thank you.

00:04:47.960 But for the audience, let's talk a little bit about your experiences.

00:04:52.100 Yeah.

00:04:52.920 Unfortunately, we do hear that a lot, and we've heard that from many other

00:04:55.800 so-called experts in these fields, that this is all psychological.

00:05:00.120 And that's a shame, because we have the physical scars to prove what's happened to us.

00:05:04.660 Those of us, speaking for myself and others I've spoken with personally,

00:05:08.060 who've experienced these unwanted seizures, these unwanted encounters.

00:05:14.220 And so it's really unfortunate.

00:05:16.080 I mean, our own government has released documents detailing the physical things that we have to deal with because of this.

00:05:26.500 There are reports, hundreds of pages of documented physical evidence showing that we've experienced these things.

00:05:35.640 It's not in our mind when we have physical reminders that we have to deal with every day.

00:05:40.700 And our own government admits to that.

00:05:43.120 They admit to the missing fetal syndrome.

00:05:46.560 They admit to people being implanted with trackers.

00:05:50.040 So many different things.

00:05:51.020 And it's in the book, I have a chapter in there where I just put that document in there to share with people so they can see that this is really there.

00:05:57.720 And then you have people in the hallowed halls of Congress saying, yes, we have the bodies, we have the crash craft, you know, we have the witnesses.

00:06:05.240 And so when you take all of that, plus the hundreds and thousands of people who have had similar experiences but have never spoken with each other, but they're saying the same things.

00:06:15.380 And you put all of that together, it really negates these outlandish theories that this is all just some psychological delusion.

00:06:23.760 And we've heard that so many times.

00:06:25.020 It's like victim shaming for those of us who've been through it because it's really sad because it's like, you know, unfortunately, they're trying to quiet those of us who are brave enough to speak about it and try to help others.

00:06:39.620 And it's, you know, it's really unfortunate.

00:06:41.500 So, sorry, that's a long answer to your question, and I think you asked for just what my experience is, and I'll go back to that as well.

00:06:48.820 Well, I would like to just say that we had a gentleman on the show who I think is well-meaning.

00:06:54.520 You know, so many of us in this kind of area of research don't intend malice.

00:07:00.940 We just kind of get things wrong, which is, you know, forgivable.

00:07:03.480 And I really enjoyed that episode, but it was something Joe – jeez, man, I forget his name now.

00:07:12.920 He was a – 0.93

00:07:14.480 Was he the guy that was just on Tony Merkel's show?

00:07:16.780 He was.

00:07:17.160 He was, yeah.

00:07:17.960 Joseph Jordan?

00:07:19.540 Joseph Jordan, yeah.

00:07:20.780 Great guy.

00:07:22.340 He has long been, unfortunately –

00:07:24.300 He's wrong.

00:07:24.620 He's –

00:07:25.480 Yeah.

00:07:25.960 What is he wrong about?

00:07:26.640 So what he specifically said on our show, which is, you know, we don't give a lot of pushback on the show.

00:07:31.000 We let people share their piece, and we're just kind of –

00:07:33.220 We just let them lie.

00:07:33.940 We just let them lie to us.

00:07:35.480 We try to, like, massage the conversation, obviously, because some – like, we just had Jordan Crowder on.

00:07:41.440 Jordan Crowder, yeah.

00:07:42.100 Didn't agree with much he said, but there are – like, you can derive some good information from somebody.

00:07:47.260 You don't always have to, like, fight them.

00:07:48.760 It's really like what we do is data harvesting in very many ways.

00:07:51.620 We're just taking in information.

00:07:52.900 And so one of the things that Joe said was that, you know, sometimes women will just absorb the fetus, and there will be no traces of it whatsoever, and that this alone is enough for him to dismiss the idea that there are ever any actual physical pregnancies, that this phenomenon is taking place whatsoever.

00:08:17.400 This is something that I disagree with, but, you know, like I said, I think he's just wrong.

00:08:22.560 You can't really fault people for being wrong, but –

00:08:25.560 Well, I mean, he's right.

00:08:26.500 That's the thing.

00:08:27.000 He's right about a lot of other things.

00:08:29.280 Like, I think he's one of the first people we spoke to that said when you use the name of Jesus –

00:08:34.180 Yes.

00:08:34.960 It deters these figures, whereas, like, others will talk to, like, a Timothy Albarino.

00:08:38.820 He's like, no, that doesn't work.

00:08:40.740 And I'm like, I don't know.

00:08:42.040 It's not really what I've heard.

00:08:43.420 Yeah.

00:08:44.480 Mufon. 0.85

00:08:45.100 Former Mufon investigator is what he is. 0.99

00:08:47.480 And so he had that data that correlated with the name of Jesus Christ stopping abduction experiences.

00:08:51.780 So he, I believe, is a guy that would also maintain that this is purely a spiritual – in fact, what he says is a spiritual phenomenon masquerading as a physical one.

00:09:02.060 What do you think of that, Karen?

00:09:02.820 Yeah, I think you have to be really careful when you get into that because what we're dealing with are entities that are different from us.

00:09:09.760 They are not human.

00:09:10.720 They are multidimensional.

00:09:12.080 They are interdimensional.

00:09:13.260 They have properties, physical properties.

00:09:15.380 They have properties in physics that we don't understand, that we can't yet explain.

00:09:20.700 So when you try to fit into this little box of we are human, we are here on Earth, it doesn't fit.

00:09:25.780 And so then you provide these explanations that seem logical somewhat, but they really don't work because we're not dealing with human entities.

00:09:32.480 We're dealing with something that God created before he created humans.

00:09:35.420 We're dealing with what Tim Alberino calls our elder brethren.

00:09:38.600 We're dealing with entities that we don't have a lot of information on, but we also know we're not supposed to mess with them.

00:09:44.620 So, you know, we know they're stronger.

00:09:46.560 We know they've been around longer.

00:09:47.840 We know that there's more to them than there is to us when it comes to abilities.

00:09:51.900 And so you have to be really careful to make such absolute statements unless you've actually experienced it or been there or done this.

00:10:01.560 So, you know, while some of those statements have some truth, there is also some mistruth or misunderstanding going on.

00:10:09.680 And it is very hard for those of us who have experienced it to listen to people who haven't tell us what's going on when we've been there and we've experienced it.

00:10:18.620 And I know the difference between something that's physical and spiritual, and it is both.

00:10:23.140 And it can be both at the same time.

00:10:24.940 And now we're getting into quantum physics.

00:10:26.360 And if you look at the Bible and you look at the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit and you look into quantum physics, it helps bring a little bit of that more into focus.

00:10:35.440 And if somebody does not understand that, then, of course, they're going to try to explain it in a way that's a little more simplistic.

00:10:43.060 And then you come back to those types of explanations, which you were just talking about.

00:10:47.320 One of the questions that I always have is like a it's like a definition or a delineation between what we're actually dealing with.

00:10:55.780 So you have like fallen angels, Nephilim, Raphaim, and then Gibbereem. 0.73

00:11:02.660 Like as the time goes on, the bloodline gets diluted and some of these entities are even like a Gibbereem would be a created entity or something like a Nimrod became Gibbereem.

00:11:13.080 So he was human and then became something else.

00:11:16.600 Did you do you have any inclination of what you've been dealing?

00:11:20.680 I guess we should get into your story before we even jump a gun on it.

00:11:23.600 But like, do you have any idea what you're even dealing with the classification or do you do you think it does?

00:11:29.720 Does it matter at all in what's happening?

00:11:32.660 I think that there are going to be a lot of various classifications that we don't have enough data on to fully understand.

00:11:40.540 But what we do know is that God created another class of beings, not human.

00:11:45.020 And how many different types there are?

00:11:47.240 Well, we know biblically there are so many different types that are mentioned in the Bible.

00:11:50.940 So when those entities, as in Genesis 6, saw the daughters of Ben and decided that they wanted to procreate and take wives, plural, of as many of them as they chose, you get into creating the hybrid entities.

00:12:05.920 And there are going to be different names for that across different cultures.

00:12:10.300 And so different names and different types, there are probably more than we could imagine when it comes to that.

00:12:19.360 Because we don't know how many types of angelic beings they are.

00:12:21.740 We don't have a book for them.

00:12:23.360 We have a book for us.

00:12:24.580 We have a book about our salvation.

00:12:25.980 But we don't have a book about these entities.

00:12:28.620 So most of what we would say would be, well, this is what I've seen.

00:12:31.400 So I can tell you what I've experienced and what I've seen.

00:12:33.640 But beyond that, a lot of it is speculation, unless we're just going straight from the biblical verse or other ancient texts.

00:12:43.360 So let's get into this, what you've experienced.

00:12:46.140 And I guess we can kind of start chronologically.

00:12:50.520 It seems that a lot of this, for many people, starts very early on.

00:12:56.360 My grandmother was an abductee victim.

00:13:00.600 And she didn't realize it until much later on in life.

00:13:03.700 And it disturbed her pretty deeply.

00:13:05.640 But, you know, the stories from her childhood, trying to go to sleep, being unable to move, bright white light appears in the window.

00:13:16.640 She finally, you know, gets the ability to scream. 1.00

00:13:20.520 And once people come to investigate, the thing disappears.

00:13:25.160 You know, it seems like this is something that followed her throughout childhood.

00:13:28.580 Not unique.

00:13:30.940 I mean, you know, you might say that the abductee victim is unique in the grand scheme of things.

00:13:35.640 Among the general population.

00:13:36.800 But as far as the patterns and the things that happen, it seems that it was kind of par for the course.

00:13:42.800 So is this something that started for you in childhood?

00:13:46.960 Oh, absolutely.

00:13:47.840 From my earliest memories.

00:13:49.400 I mean, I don't have a time in my life where I don't have memories of this, of being taken against my will.

00:13:54.260 Of encountering these strange entities that I didn't understand from such a young age.

00:14:00.120 That there were family members.

00:14:02.600 My father's side is very Germanic, very Scandinavian looking.

00:14:05.080 And I was terrified of certain members of the family who were very tall and blonde and fair-skinned and blue-eyed.

00:14:10.800 Because they reminded me of these entities, some would call Nordic entities.

00:14:15.660 And at the time, I didn't know what they were.

00:14:17.480 I just knew they were taking me.

00:14:18.740 And these were some of them I was encountering looked similar to some of my family members.

00:14:23.600 And I'm not saying the family members were alien.

00:14:25.660 No.

00:14:25.880 I'm just saying there were similar features that, as a little child, when you're two or three years old, you know, you don't know the difference between a bumblebee or a wasp.

00:14:34.000 But if you're stung by one, you're probably scared of both.

00:14:36.000 It's that kind of thing.

00:14:37.240 So, from my earliest, earliest memories.

00:14:41.660 And then, you know, later in life, when books like Whitley Strieber's book came out, when I saw that book cover, I had a panic attack.

00:14:48.840 You know, I'd never seen something like that on a book cover before out in public, you know.

00:14:54.040 And what do you do?

00:14:54.880 What do you say when you see something like that?

00:14:56.540 People are like, what's wrong with you?

00:14:57.440 Nothing, nothing.

00:14:58.120 I can't tell you.

00:14:59.260 You know, people will think you're crazy.

00:15:00.860 No one wanted to hear those types of things.

00:15:03.560 But growing up, from my earliest memories, yeah, I was taken.

00:15:06.160 And we didn't have vocabulary.

00:15:07.880 I didn't know what UFOs and aliens and interdimensionals and grays or things like that.

00:15:13.920 Nobody talked about those things.

00:15:15.860 There weren't TV shows or podcasts or magazines or newspapers or books about those things.

00:15:21.300 So it was very difficult.

00:15:22.540 I can understand your grandmother's situation a little bit in reference to my own because we didn't have a basis to even talk about it or understand what was happening to us because there was nobody out there to help us understand better.

00:15:39.120 There was nobody else out there talking about these things.

00:15:42.420 And that made it really difficult to share and tell others what was happening at that point in time.

00:15:48.000 And that book, by the way, Karen, is the one that my grandmother, that was what informed her of what was actually happening to her.

00:15:57.100 Yeah.

00:15:57.560 And, you know, that's what she became very troubled after that.

00:16:02.480 In fact, she made my mother swear not to read the book.

00:16:05.120 And after she passed away, I managed to get my hands on it.

00:16:09.020 And that framed a lot of what was happening, you know, not so much to me.

00:16:15.060 There was some experiences I had, but like around my family as I was getting these stories.

00:16:21.000 And so I'm looking at this book now and I'm going, oh, this is what my grandmother was talking about.

00:16:25.980 And then so, yeah, I guess, you know, it happens in a way where there's not a lot of, like you're saying, other sources.

00:16:33.960 It kind of makes me wonder how impactful that book was for a lot of other people.

00:16:37.940 If you don't know, I didn't read it.

00:16:39.700 I couldn't read it.

00:16:40.320 I was terrified of it.

00:16:41.160 I couldn't get close to the book.

00:16:43.240 And then when it finally came out on, you know, I think normal TV, not at the movie theater, it was on and I couldn't watch it.

00:16:50.620 I mean, it was on and I had a panic attack, something, some scene in the movie that happened to be on the TV.

00:16:56.380 We just, those things just bring back this PTSD element of the things that happened.

00:17:03.500 And I can see how that would be alarming or shocking for her to read because just the scenes from the movie were too much for me to watch at the time.

00:17:11.500 I mean, now I'm in a much better place.

00:17:12.880 Obviously, God has brought me through this and to another side of it where I can use it now to help others.

00:17:18.020 But for a long, long time, I couldn't look at a movie or a book or a TV show or anything that had UFO or alien in it just for that reason.

00:17:26.560 It was just, it was too painful to relieve, to relive any of it.

00:17:31.880 And I do believe, as you were saying, starting to say too, it is a very familial thing.

00:17:36.700 It does run in families.

00:17:37.700 I think that has a lot to do with the permissions that are given.

00:17:42.360 You know, go back to Vicki Joy Anderson when I referenced that because when she and I speak about things together,

00:17:47.400 that's where her expertise really comes in as far as covenants and things like that.

00:17:51.360 And when you have a family line that has the genetics that they are able to utilize for things like breeding programs,

00:17:58.300 they're going to keep going with that family line.

00:18:01.100 You know, and especially, you know, when that mother, I was talking to you guys earlier about something I'm writing this month about fetal maternal microchimerism,

00:18:09.200 which is a long word for a simple process where when a woman is pregnant, 0.91

00:18:12.640 the fetus transfers some DNA to the mother that stays with the mother permanently,

00:18:18.700 that stays in the mother.

00:18:21.180 So if you're having an experience with a non-human entity and carrying a hybrid entity in your womb, 0.99

00:18:28.260 there will be some transfer of that DNA and that stays in your system

00:18:31.860 and possibly making it easier to continue that lineage with that family line

00:18:37.220 because now that's a part of your DNA.

00:18:41.680 That's interesting.

00:18:43.060 Is that how you think, like, well, your relatives, let's say, that do have characteristics of these Nordics, 0.60

00:18:51.240 do you think that that happened sometime down the line?

00:18:54.500 Yeah, you know, that's a really interesting question.

00:18:56.380 I have no way to prove that or not.

00:18:58.080 But what I can say is because of this DNA, it takes the comments about this being a purely psychological thing

00:19:08.080 and throws them completely out the window because this is genetic proof that it's happening.

00:19:15.120 So you are no longer, we're no longer stuck trying to fight this battle of, well, it's all in your head.

00:19:21.520 It's not my head.

00:19:22.360 It's in my genes.

00:19:23.200 It's in my blood.

00:19:23.860 You know, and so with the new findings that are happening, it was a Dr. Max Rampel released a study back early this year.

00:19:33.500 I think it was May.

00:19:34.880 And like I said, I'll, I will provide, I'll send you guys a copy of the article when I finished it.

00:19:40.980 And anyone who's interested in that can find it in L.A. Merzulli's monthly newsletter.

00:19:46.460 And that'll be part of my next book as well.

00:19:48.620 I'm really going to focus down onto the DNA part of things because I think it's so important for people to understand that there is so much more proof coming out.

00:19:57.480 And, but no one's paying attention.

00:19:59.580 You know, when these things come out, they're largely ignored as unimportant or, you know, pushed aside because, well, for obvious reasons.

00:20:12.320 Obviously, there's still such a stigma about this and removing that stigma seems to be impossible at this point.

00:20:19.940 Well, I mean, the stigma surrounding that aspect of the phenomenon is, I would agree with you, seemingly difficult to remove or difficult to, you know, get through for some people psychologically.

00:20:34.880 But we are being introduced to this concept of extraterrestrials in a way that seems to be palatable for the average person.

00:20:47.840 And it seems to have been made palatable by apparatus like Hollywood and NASA and things like that for a really long time.

00:20:54.840 And obviously, it's not cohesive with what you and Vicky and L.A. are working on as far as your research goes.

00:21:07.040 And so in that way, the deviation between what your ideas are and what the mainstream public is going to get soon or is getting in a very slow drip is specifically about the nature of the event.

00:21:22.180 And by that, I mean, we're getting fed this idea that they are benign space brethren who have advanced technology and who maybe even have a vested interest in our maintenance of the planet, not destroying it via nuclear war or not polluting it to the point of not being able to bring it back.

00:21:44.980 And there is a lot of things at play here.

00:21:50.380 So it's not only this sort of Pentagon release thing, but it's also aspects like the Galactic Federation of Light, which I imagine you're probably familiar with, you know, given your field of research.

00:21:59.740 And the Galactic Federation of Light very much paints these entities as saviors, saviors of mankind waiting for humanity to reach an apex in their spiritual evolution so that they may be rescued from whatever satanic forces seek to keep us or reach the next level of whatever spiritual advancement or something like that.

00:22:24.660 Yeah. And so this this goes everywhere. This is the Pleiadians, et cetera, et cetera.

00:22:32.160 I've I've I've even seen them in recent years go as far as to co-opt Jesus to such an extent that which we've seen with the New Age movement and everything.

00:22:42.100 Right. Well, actually, it's very interesting because tomorrow we have Joe Joe and Franco.

00:22:47.080 That's right.

00:22:47.640 Who is the pastor that worked on the telepathy tapes?

00:22:52.260 He's been on Blurry Creatures as well, but he he's a pastor that works with autistic children that are nonverbal.

00:22:59.800 And he claims that most of them or a lot of them have said that they've been in communication with Jesus.

00:23:05.600 So they they communicate with each other telepathically and maybe even astrally.

00:23:10.860 And they go to a place called the Hill and they come back and they talk about Jesus.

00:23:15.160 Something also very interesting is that when he's on the telepathy tapes like that whole podcast itself, those parts are cut out.

00:23:23.040 So there's not really mention of Jesus on these tapes.

00:23:26.100 They want to focus more on just the phenomenon of the New Age.

00:23:31.320 Yeah. New Agey kind of side of it.

00:23:33.280 So we're going to do a little bit of scratching to see what we could find there from this guy.

00:23:37.340 But we're getting it from all different angles is what I'm getting at, Karen.

00:23:41.040 It seems like there's a lot of damage control going on.

00:23:43.600 And a lot of it is in direct opposition to what you're as as an actual experience are describing.

00:23:50.180 Exactly. I mean, you've got to look at there's so much predictive programming out there.

00:23:54.060 There's so much of an attempt to try to steer people in a very specific direction with this.

00:24:00.140 You know, and I know you've spoken with L.A. about things like the great the coming great deception.

00:24:04.740 And she talks about, you know, and when we go up, they show up when we go up, they come down is what he says.

00:24:10.260 And I agree with him 100 percent. In the 1950s, George Adamski coined the phrase our benevolent space brothers.

00:24:18.080 And that, again, is just another part of this predictive programming.

00:24:22.120 They're trying to show them as our benevolent, you know, space brethren who are here to help us and save the planet.

00:24:27.920 But when when I and L.A. and Vicki speak to people, we often say, you know, tell me, where is it OK to kidnap a four or five year old child?

00:24:40.060 When is it OK to sexually assault a man or a woman?

00:24:43.480 When is it OK to steal a fetus from someone's body?

00:24:46.040 At what point is it OK to mutilate cattle, sheep, animals, people who are also mutilated?

00:24:52.680 You know, that way. What point are destroying crops and fields?

00:24:58.040 That's not preserving the land. That's not preserving the crops with crop circles and things like that that are bent and woven in such a way as would take us years to even complete one little tiny bit of that if a human were to do it.

00:25:10.840 So there's just so much that doesn't fit into this benevolent space brothers package they're trying to sell to everyone.

00:25:20.500 But people are still buying it because they want that feel good story.

00:25:24.100 They want this beautiful bright light to come down from the sky and save everyone.

00:25:28.100 We have that. We have that in a savior. We have that in Jesus.

00:25:30.660 But people are calling on it with CE5 and opening doors and making covenants with entities that do not have their best interest at heart.

00:25:39.860 I mean, when somebody comes along and says to steal your purse or rob your house or carjack you, they don't wear a T-shirt that says, hey, I'm here to rob, cheat, steal, lie, kill.

00:25:53.180 No, they come in as this nice, respectable person or someone you could trust or they sneak in where you don't see them.

00:25:59.880 So evil doesn't tend to announce itself.

00:26:03.160 And so in order to gain the permission, this evil is trying to find a way to look like something people might want so people will invite it in.

00:26:11.600 And it really is deception at the highest level when we start talking about space brothers because people are not going to see the difference.

00:26:19.860 They're going to see Satan coming as an angel of light and think that it's this wonderful, benevolent being just because it's beautiful doesn't mean it's a good thing.

00:26:28.160 You know, and just because it helps you once doesn't mean the next time it's not going to hurt you.

00:26:31.880 And it's just so dangerous.

00:26:34.740 We have so many warnings in the Bible, so many warnings in our gospel to not mess with these things.

00:26:40.960 But people don't want to pay attention to that because they want the fun, the excitement.

00:26:45.080 They want to see the shiny object and they want to call it forth and have this feel, this strength and this power, I think, that they get from that.

00:26:52.720 And that's a very scary thing for many people out there doing those types of things like CE5, for example.

00:26:58.240 So some interesting things there that you said, like the concerted effort that we're all dealing with right now, watching them do this stuff.

00:27:06.740 Part of it is the idea that we have to invite them in.

00:27:10.720 So, yeah, that like they have that part covered.

00:27:13.280 I mean, social media or just like Hollywood from the 1950s to 70s Roswell and that whole concerted effort.

00:27:20.080 So, yeah, that's covered the part where we have to invite them in.

00:27:22.720 But I just wanted to drop a little information for you.

00:27:26.440 Maybe you pass to L.A.

00:27:28.340 It's something that we kind of stumbled upon.

00:27:30.640 We interviewed this guy, Citizen D, about a year ago.

00:27:34.380 And he's a British or I guess he's from Britain.

00:27:38.360 I don't know.

00:27:38.720 I wonder what he does like occupational wise.

00:27:40.540 Did we ever get that?

00:27:41.380 No, because he was like he's anonymous.

00:27:43.240 That's right.

00:27:43.860 He's anonymous.

00:27:44.540 Yeah.

00:27:45.280 We did get to see him accidentally because he doesn't know how to work a computer.

00:27:49.580 But he's anonymous.

00:27:52.720 And he's not a computer.

00:27:54.800 He's not a tech expert.

00:27:56.180 No, no, no.

00:27:57.340 He doesn't know how to use StreamYard.

00:27:58.800 That's for sure.

00:27:59.300 So, he's one of the people that claims to have been doing crop circles.

00:28:05.860 And he said about 80% of the crop circles that we do see are man-made.

00:28:11.020 The other 20%, he's saying, you know, could be, could not be, which is a believable number. 1.00

00:28:16.360 Not all of them are UFO craft that are interwoven, you know, articulately.

00:28:21.360 But when we pressed him on it, we were like, so how do you get these designs?

00:28:26.240 Because they're intricate designs.

00:28:27.720 He was like showing us some of them.

00:28:29.160 And he goes, some of them come as downloads.

00:28:31.400 Some of them, some people like they were like, there are a whole network of these guys that do this and coordinate to do this.

00:28:37.280 And downloads seem to be one of the main things in the sense of channeling specifically.

00:28:42.800 Like, he's channeling these information downloads.

00:28:45.400 Yeah.

00:28:46.160 Okay.

00:28:46.440 And then, so then I go, I pull up like a picture of the Seals of Solomon and I cut off the top really quickly.

00:28:55.140 And I go, do any of these look like something you put in a field?

00:28:57.860 And he goes, yeah, yeah.

00:28:58.740 Those like this one, that one, this one.

00:29:00.460 I was like, that's interesting.

00:29:01.280 Anyway, and we moved on.

00:29:02.720 And so I was like, you're putting demonic sigils in a location that you're being, we also asked him, like, why certain locations?

00:29:09.780 He was like, yeah, it's just like, you get an inclination to go here and do this thing.

00:29:13.840 Two o'clock in the morning.

00:29:14.620 Two o'clock in the morning.

00:29:16.440 Something just strikes me to go out and make this complex sigil in the middle of a field.

00:29:20.940 And nothing about that bothers you, right?

00:29:23.040 No red flags there.

00:29:24.720 I mean, he said, well, it was interesting because then we got into like, after that, we go, anything happening in your real life?

00:29:31.340 That's a little weird.

00:29:31.960 And he's like, man, sometimes some poltergeist stuff, but I don't think it's related.

00:29:35.100 We're like, yeah, never mind.

00:29:35.840 Just some poltergeist activity.

00:29:37.060 It's probably not related.

00:29:38.240 Don't worry about it.

00:29:39.060 I haven't drawn a correlation.

00:29:40.700 You know, the other thing that's really interesting, too, is this idea of Stephen Greer.

00:29:47.520 Because you're talking about CE5.

00:29:49.540 That guy is really strange to me.

00:29:52.060 I guess if you don't have anything nice to say, I won't say anything else.

00:29:54.540 Like how he looks or just what he does?

00:29:55.920 Just super, yeah, he does look very horrifying.

00:29:58.680 But he has this app, and it's CE5.

00:30:02.460 And we had a buddy of ours because we do quite a bit of research on frequency and vibration and things of that nature.

00:30:10.520 And, you know, the CIA has a real interest in it.

00:30:13.520 Seems to be able to sync the hemispheres of the brain and give you these experiences or put you in contact.

00:30:18.680 You can channel easier, et cetera, et cetera.

00:30:21.140 It seems like it's the gift that keeps on giving if you're the CIA.

00:30:23.600 But one listener in particular who wrote in to us said that he used to use these binaural beats.

00:30:31.600 And they would be adapted to specific frequencies.

00:30:34.580 He said one day he discovered a frequency that made him have alien abduction experiences, poltergeist activity in the house, demonic encounters.

00:30:43.400 You name it, the whole, you know, shebang starts happening to him. 0.81

00:30:48.040 Later on, he would find out that the exact frequency, which he kept to himself, he didn't want to tell us, you know, for fear of anybody else dialing into it.

00:30:55.880 But he said it's the same one that Stephen Greer uses for his CE5.

00:31:02.460 So the same thing, the same frequency that gave this guy alien abduction experiences, poltergeist activity, sleep paralysis, and demonic encounters is the same thing that Stephen Greer is using to summon in these oars.

00:31:14.860 Is that the same thing you were doing yourself with a fan?

00:31:16.880 That was an accident.

00:31:17.720 I never meant to do that.

00:31:18.740 Vicky Johnson actually helped out.

00:31:20.800 He used to sleep with a fan.

00:31:21.980 I still sleep with a fan, but this is a better fan that doesn't binaural beat down me while I'm sleeping and I don't have sleep paralysis. 0.94

00:31:30.100 Yeah.

00:31:31.320 Yeah, I mean, that's, you know, that's something that people don't seem, tend to understand or understand well enough is the frequencies and vibrations.

00:31:39.580 I mean, God created all of this for a reason.

00:31:42.240 And there are so many things that we're not meant to mess with or understand, you know, when the fallen ones share the sacred knowledge.

00:31:49.320 And that's one of those things I think that was, that was shared that really wasn't meant to be because it could be used so dangerously against us because we are not designed to be able to defend ourselves properly against some of these things.

00:32:06.640 You know, and, you know, and, and so that when you look at Stephen Greer, though, to back up to him a little bit, you know, when you, if you read his bio and his information, and I've listened to him quite a bit just to understand why and what he's doing.

00:32:20.400 He had an encounter where he really invited something in and then this thing told him, this entity, exactly what and how to do to continue with the CE5 protocol and to create the CE5 protocol.

00:32:33.920 So he does identify a very specific point in time where it sounds to me like he allowed something to inhabit him and kind of take over.

00:32:45.540 And then you just, when you look at him, you can see there's a change, you know, at that point.

00:32:49.820 And so for me, that was kind of the kicker of, yeah, you really want to stay away from this.

00:32:56.540 It's dangerous.

00:32:57.520 It's not something we're meant to play with. 0.86

00:33:00.300 And calling forth entities that you don't understand, that you're not familiar with, and expecting them to just be benevolent, you know, I mean, that's ridiculous. 0.58

00:33:11.440 And then you take that home to your family, your friends, your loved ones, your children.

00:33:14.260 I mean, it's so dangerous and yet people are just so excited.

00:33:19.700 They gather by the thousands to go out into the desert or the woods or wherever and call upon these entities, these things that they don't know about, that they don't understand.

00:33:30.440 I mean, it's just, you might as well be playing with a Ouija board or a book of spells or tarot cards.

00:33:36.500 It's right up there with all of those things.

00:33:38.600 I would say it's almost more direct, right?

00:33:40.840 I mean, it seems to yield consistent results.

00:33:46.000 But I look at this and I feel as though it's all done by design because, you know, we really have omitted spirituality here in the West.

00:33:56.180 We live in this materialistic paradigm.

00:33:59.540 And I don't think that that's sustainable.

00:34:01.700 I think you could implement that over a people for a time, but eventually they will long for something spiritual.

00:34:09.080 Well, isn't it an interesting push-up goal?

00:34:14.440 You've got, like, they put the blanket over our eyes of spirituality, but then at the same time, these spiritual entities kind of want access to us.

00:34:25.340 So they have to then represent themselves in a way.

00:34:28.240 Yes, yeah.

00:34:28.600 So it's like it becomes this weird tug of war of what's going to break.

00:34:32.920 And I feel like we're at the point where human beings are going to have to start dealing with this again.

00:34:37.400 Well, because we saw it really big in the 90s where it was like atheism.

00:34:41.100 Atheism was huge, you know, tail end of the 80s, all through the 90s, starts to die out in the late 2000s.

00:34:47.780 And now it's not really prevalent, not like it used to be.

00:34:53.220 I mean, I don't meet atheists now.

00:34:54.640 I used to meet them.

00:34:55.760 The people that are, you kind of go, come on, like, after COVID, you're like...

00:35:00.260 You would think.

00:35:00.940 Yeah, really?

00:35:01.780 Nothing?

00:35:02.300 No?

00:35:03.100 Go ahead, Karen.

00:35:04.820 No, no, I'm sorry.

00:35:05.860 It's always been that interesting that, you know, you've got atheists and agnostics.

00:35:08.960 And it's like, if you believe in nothing, it's one thing.

00:35:11.720 But to believe in something and then believe it doesn't exist, aren't you really...

00:35:15.720 There's sort of, to me, there's just a strange paradigm to atheism where it almost negates what they're saying and what they're doing by believing in something and choosing not to believe in it because they believe in it.

00:35:26.780 Does that make sense?

00:35:28.640 It's not sustainable.

00:35:30.420 I think you can have that idea for a time, but not a very long time.

00:35:36.460 And I wonder if that time period is around two decades.

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00:36:07.540 So, yeah, I look at that time period as one that was necessary.

00:36:12.140 It wasn't sustainable, but you had to get us to the point of some, I don't know what the percentages are, but some widely accepted version of atheism for the general public.

00:36:21.080 And then from there, it was only a matter of time until people longed for some form of spirituality because it's obvious if you're paying attention to life in any way, shape, or form that there's a supernatural aspect to things.

00:36:32.020 And I think you can kind of put the blinders on.

00:36:34.200 Generally, up until something happens to you in your life, then you go looking for answers.

00:36:38.200 And who is prepared to give you those answers?

00:36:41.780 Well, the New Age religion is quite prepared. 0.98

00:36:45.480 Wiccan is quite prepared. 0.77

00:36:46.820 They actually got in front of it really well with the, what is it, a Christ consciousness kind of thing?

00:36:52.860 Yeah.

00:36:53.040 That's an interesting slippery idea that I didn't fall for it, but like a guy's like, what's that skinny dude with the long hair?

00:37:01.780 I kind of like him.

00:37:02.540 He's a political commentator.

00:37:02.820 Steve Aoki.

00:37:03.620 No, he's a political commentator, but he was using that.

00:37:06.320 And I was like, oh, yeah, cool.

00:37:07.700 Like me.

00:37:09.400 Like I'm conscious.

00:37:10.300 Yeah.

00:37:10.680 I'm conscious of Christ.

00:37:11.920 Yeah.

00:37:12.240 No, not quite like that.

00:37:13.320 Not like that, no.

00:37:15.280 Well, and if you have to go back to the Garden of Eden, you will be as gods, you know.

00:37:18.700 We're saying the same story recycled over and over again as people long for a more closeness to a better understanding of where do I come from?

00:37:27.900 Who am I?

00:37:28.480 What am I?

00:37:29.120 And that draws them into this opportunity for a greater relationship with God and more spirituality.

00:37:36.820 Then that's when all of the demons come rushing and going, I can give you this.

00:37:41.700 I can offer this.

00:37:43.040 Here, I can give you something so awesome.

00:37:45.600 And it's the same story.

00:37:47.980 I just feel like we're just rebranding the same thing over and over again.

00:37:50.940 And especially with the UFO, UAP stuff that's going on today, it's the same thing.

00:37:57.880 It's just they're giving it new names.

00:38:00.160 They're giving them, you know, flashy new titles and new stories and new backgrounds.

00:38:06.240 But it's still all the same thing.

00:38:08.600 We're still talking about fallen angelic beings who are trying to get people to turn away from God and pledge their allegiance and open up themselves to the darkness and to the, you know, the fallen side.

00:38:21.440 The fallen realm.

00:38:22.660 I mean, the late Dr. Chuck Missler, as he told L.A., you know, Satan's out number two to one.

00:38:27.820 He's building an army.

00:38:29.040 He was not wrong. 0.99

00:38:30.420 And that's still happening today.

00:38:31.820 Even though he knows he's not going to win, he's going to take this respite that he has and try to make the most of it and take as many people down as he can with him.

00:38:41.840 And just in a thumbing his nose at the human race, you know, we took this planet from them.

00:38:47.160 They lived here before us.

00:38:48.760 Of course, they want to crush us under their feet.

00:38:51.340 Of course, they want this back.

00:38:52.640 It's a great place.

00:38:53.420 We live in a wonderful, beautiful planet, you know, for all the difficulties, you know, that we all face because it is a fallen world.

00:39:01.720 It is a beautiful place.

00:39:03.000 We're really blessed to have this place that God's blessed us with.

00:39:07.320 And the fact that they want it back, that makes sense to me.

00:39:11.820 That's something like that idea is something I struggle with as a Christian for a long time.

00:39:18.300 You know how Christians will say, like, we're not of this world, right? 1.00

00:39:22.100 So, like, our treasures are in heaven.

00:39:24.660 And I'm just kind of like, but we were given this.

00:39:28.000 And shouldn't we, like, take care of it while we're here or at least fight for it while we're here?

00:39:33.480 And then you'll get the idea back of, like, no, we're not.

00:39:36.220 Like, don't get involved with that.

00:39:38.180 I'm like, nah, man, my kids are here.

00:39:40.100 Like, they'll be here for the next 120 years, I hope.

00:39:43.920 Right.

00:39:45.000 And, yeah, so there's, like, this weird thing.

00:39:47.540 I don't know.

00:39:48.380 I go back and forth on it.

00:39:49.300 No, it's being a good steward.

00:39:50.200 I mean, there's so many parables that lead you back to that, you know, where they're given the money and the one buries it and hides it and one squanders it away.

00:39:57.660 One makes more of it.

00:39:59.660 And that's it.

00:40:00.880 When you care for something and you allow it to flourish, that is what we're supposed to be doing with everything that God's given us, including this place that we get to live.

00:40:09.860 So we're not trying to be all new age about it.

00:40:13.600 I'm just saying we are stewards of this earth.

00:40:15.940 We are meant to care for it.

00:40:17.660 God did come in the form of Jesus to this earth, to walk on this earth, because he loved us so much.

00:40:24.000 You know, the fact that he was here and he put his feet as a human on this soil, on this earth, means something.

00:40:32.020 And that should mean something to everyone who lives here.

00:40:34.300 We should preserve it as long as we can and be grateful for it.

00:40:38.840 Because if we can't be grateful for this, then how are we going to be grateful for what comes next in the millennial kingdom?

00:40:45.840 You know, we're here to learn.

00:40:47.440 And I think this is a part of it.

00:40:48.580 If we can't take care of this, it's like giving a child a bag of flour and pretend that that's a baby for a month.

00:40:54.060 You know, if you can't take care of that, how are you going to take care of a living being?

00:40:57.940 Well, it's the same.

00:40:58.540 I think it's a similar thing.

00:40:59.780 You know, if we can't take care of this, how are we going to be given responsibilities in the millennial kingdom and beyond that?

00:41:05.680 You know, we really have a lot to learn.

00:41:07.920 Isn't that the idea?

00:41:08.940 It's such a bastardization of that exact idea that you're expressing where because the new age movement will be like, we have to ascend.

00:41:17.120 And I'm kind of like, in a way, right?

00:41:19.880 Well, it's more than just I have to ascend.

00:41:21.740 They think this is a prison.

00:41:24.060 They think this is hell, right?

00:41:25.360 The Gnostics are like, this is hell. 1.00

00:41:27.740 And this is a prison planet.

00:41:29.960 And God is the Demiurge.

00:41:31.920 And we're trapped here.

00:41:33.440 And we have to escape.

00:41:34.860 If this is a prison planet, why do these entities seem so like hell bent on, I don't know.

00:41:40.260 Engaging with it.

00:41:41.140 Why do they want it back so badly if it's so terrible, right?

00:41:44.760 Why do they want the birthright? 0.98

00:41:45.800 There are moments where I'm like with my family and the sun is beating on my face and the air smells nice.

00:41:54.520 And I'm like, you know, you like take a deep breath and you're like, you just feel.

00:41:57.260 And then you fart, right?

00:41:58.160 No, that's not.

00:41:58.920 No, I don't ruin the moment.

00:42:00.300 I go, man, this is nice.

00:42:02.280 I go, man, this is nice.

00:42:03.860 And then I think about these Gnostic spurges who are like, this is hell. 1.00

00:42:08.000 That's the Demiurge.

00:42:09.040 Yaldoboath is.

00:42:10.620 I mean, this life is filled with, I was talking to Matt about it.

00:42:14.380 It's filled with so many fleeting moments of brilliance.

00:42:17.000 Yeah.

00:42:17.600 But they're like quick.

00:42:19.360 And I mean, sometimes they last a little longer, but they're like, wow, if I could just grab that and put that in a jar.

00:42:24.600 Oh, my God.

00:42:25.360 And drink it.

00:42:25.900 Yeah.

00:42:26.040 I mean, there's so much of it, too.

00:42:27.280 Even these moments where I think the Holy Spirit reveals to you some truth that is just beyond your grasp and you get hit with this epiphany.

00:42:36.140 You get to connect some sort of neuron in your brain.

00:42:39.080 We do that on episodes with LA, with, I guess, Karen now and Vicky all the time.

00:42:45.020 Every time she's been on, we're like, oh, yeah.

00:42:46.940 And when that happens, it's like, you know, there are these little things that make, I just can't look at it as a prison.

00:42:53.220 It's like why we do the show, I guess.

00:42:54.320 Yeah.

00:42:54.720 Yeah.

00:42:54.960 Oh, 100%.

00:42:55.900 But you were talking about this rebranding, which I think is a great terminology.

00:43:00.020 It's one that we use very often.

00:43:01.740 You know, we'll kind of use the analogy of like, let's say you have a pharmaceutical company that hurts a lot of people.

00:43:08.160 And there's a lot of deaths because of their thing, you know, and they go, man, the amount of lawsuits that we maybe we should dissolve the company and just reopen under a new name.

00:43:19.260 You'll get a commercial.

00:43:20.040 It'll be some dude prancing through a field of wheat in the sunshine and it'll, you know, list off a litany of diseases or side effects that you'll get while the guy's spinning his wife in there.

00:43:30.260 But they'll just have a new name.

00:43:32.260 It'll be a new name.

00:43:33.180 And that's how we deal with it.

00:43:34.180 And so where the public can shake their fist at the old thing that's no longer even active and they go, look at that.

00:43:39.080 We got them.

00:43:39.540 They went out of business.

00:43:40.340 They just reemerge as something else.

00:43:41.980 They rebrand.

00:43:43.180 And I agree with you, Karen.

00:43:44.680 I think that's very much what these aliens, you know, just to use the term that everybody's going to be familiar with, are doing.

00:43:52.640 And one of the things that really shows me that is this hybridization program.

00:43:56.340 And I think it's important to talk about that because a lot of people are like, what's the goal?

00:44:00.700 What are they doing?

00:44:02.040 And it seems that a lot of what they're doing is this attempt to bridge the gap between us and them in some sort of meaningful way.

00:44:08.960 Well, I think this is a good jumping off point to like get because I would like to I've heard your story a bunch of times, but I'd like to hear it again from you.

00:44:17.720 But yeah, that's this seems this is like your story, right?

00:44:21.780 This is what's going on there.

00:44:23.880 And there's so much to it.

00:44:26.060 So it's kind of like, especially the hybridization program part, because I think that's where there's so much to discuss and the grays.

00:44:35.100 I mean, those are two areas where I have so much to share and discuss.

00:44:38.860 And so I'm trying to do another book that really focuses down more on those things, because there's just so much information to share.

00:44:46.520 When you look at this program of hybridization of people, this breeding program, they're definitely trying to manipulate our DNA. 0.95

00:44:57.620 They're definitely trying to create entities that are passable as humans.

00:45:01.160 You look at the books by Dr. David Jacobs, Walking Among Us was one of them.

00:45:07.120 And there there are entities among us that just look so human.

00:45:12.600 You can't tell them from a non-human entity according.

00:45:17.780 And there's just too many reports to ignore.

00:45:19.680 And some of us, when we see them, not just myself, but others, we sense them, we see them, we can tell them right away.

00:45:29.140 And it's scary how many are out there.

00:45:32.260 And it sounds fantastical, but it really isn't that far off base.

00:45:35.680 I mean, we know that chimeric beings are being created today in labs, you know, mixes of animals and humans and things and clones and those types of things. 0.88

00:45:46.680 We have the ability to to raise a fetus in an artificial womb.

00:45:52.740 We have that as a society.

00:45:54.640 We can do that now.

00:45:55.620 We know that we bovine blood is interchangeable with human blood and that these entities have been utilizing that for a long time.

00:46:05.520 So and oddly enough, I grew up on a cattle farm.

00:46:08.700 So, you know, that was readily available where all this was happening to me.

00:46:12.240 And in the middle, I grew up really close to the serpent mound, just areas of high strangeness.

00:46:17.080 Sorry, my voice is going.

00:46:20.160 Sorry for that.

00:46:20.980 But yeah, so back to the hybridization program, though, you know, I do think that part of it is, you know, back to they want this earth back. 0.94

00:46:29.680 And one way to do that is to be just human enough to have the birthright, but just alien enough to not be human.

00:46:38.060 You know, where do you find that sweet spot? 0.99

00:46:39.680 And to lure people away from the truth, you know, to lure people away from the truth of the gospel, to create their own their own civilization that's not human.

00:46:51.640 To overpopulate and take over.

00:46:53.920 Would that be something they could possibly do?

00:46:55.660 Absolutely.

00:46:56.880 You know, I mean, absolutely.

00:46:58.620 They're already doing it.

00:47:00.140 So they being the non-human alien entities, the fallen angels.

00:47:03.480 This is something they've been doing, you know, since Genesis 3, Genesis 6, you know, since the Garden of Eden, when he said you can be as gods and tempted Adam and Eve.

00:47:14.780 It's not some new story.

00:47:17.120 But again, yes, it's just rebranded.

00:47:19.020 And it's the same story.

00:47:20.840 It's the reason for the flood.

00:47:22.200 It's we know about this in the book of Daniel.

00:47:24.580 I'm all over the place.

00:47:25.840 Sorry.

00:47:26.300 There's just so much to share.

00:47:28.060 Do you would you rather I just talk about my experiences and kind of get.

00:47:31.940 Well, I was actually whatever I was actually looking for in a post on the topic because, you know, you're saying how they'll lead you to anything but the gospel.

00:47:41.940 And I was just remembering, like, recently within this New Age movement, they have rebranded Jesus Christ in so many different ways.

00:47:49.140 His name is actually this.

00:47:50.800 He's from this planet and star system.

00:47:52.740 No, his name is actually this.

00:47:53.940 He's from this planet and star system.

00:47:55.380 He's an ascended from wicked.

00:47:56.800 He's all kind of old lady from wicked. 0.99

00:47:59.080 He's a he's a Pleiadian. 0.99

00:48:01.200 Oh, that was a fun one.

00:48:02.200 He's an ascended master.

00:48:03.720 Like it just it's a nonstop plethora.

00:48:05.920 And the reason I think is because, you know, the gospel has been spread so, so well across the planet.

00:48:15.000 I do believe we're in this period of time where like we might within our own lifetime see it reach every corner of the earth.

00:48:20.800 And when that kind of thing is happening, you really have to figure out how to deal with that.

00:48:25.340 I think there was a time where like the alien narrative didn't really care about dealing with that so much.

00:48:29.360 But we've been through so many trials and tribulations, at least here in the West and the whole world.

00:48:35.520 I mean, you know, 2020 was wild for everybody that we've been looking for answers in mass.

00:48:41.360 And if you're earnestly seeking the truth, then you will end up at Jesus Christ.

00:48:45.160 And so I think a lot of it has been realizing that, you know, this phenomenon has been realizing that.

00:48:50.200 And so it's like it's time to co-op Jesus because this isn't going away.

00:48:53.460 So I was reading a post where like, you know, he's when Jesus returns, he's from the Pleiadian star system.

00:48:58.480 He's going to be wearing a blue jumpsuit and silver boots and all this crazy stuff.

00:49:02.540 So, so yeah, just to bolster your point, I couldn't find the post, but anything but the gospel.

00:49:07.840 Oh, that guy blocked us.

00:49:09.080 He didn't like that.

00:49:10.620 Oh, no.

00:49:11.580 Doesn't that make you think of Matthew 24 differently, too, where it says many will come in my name saying I am the Christ.

00:49:17.460 It's not necessarily people saying that they are, but saying that, yeah, Jesus is the Christ, but this is who he is.

00:49:23.800 This is how he'll look.

00:49:24.660 This is what he'll be.

00:49:25.420 So they're creating these false Christs. 0.85

00:49:28.680 They're creating these false Gospels.

00:49:30.920 They're creating these false stories.

00:49:32.960 And so it kind of makes you look at that differently as, you know, because I think one thing about the word is that it's a living word and it changes with kind of where we are in time.

00:49:43.760 I think it's so amazing how God wrote the word to evolve and move along with us through life, where you look at a verse one way and it really fits.

00:49:54.760 And then everything's changing in the world.

00:49:56.740 And now this verse really fits, but in a whole nother context.

00:49:59.660 And that's how I'm kind of seeing Matthew 24 evolve into now the way people are approaching Jesus.

00:50:07.020 They're saying his name, but the reason calling on Jesus doesn't always work for some people is goes right back to permissions.

00:50:15.780 And I wrote about this a while back, too, is it's like having a washing machine and a dryer and just throwing your clothes on the floor and walking away and coming back and thinking they're going to be washed and dried and folded.

00:50:28.200 It doesn't work that way.

00:50:30.120 You have to open the door.

00:50:31.540 You have to invite him in.

00:50:32.460 You have to make that commitment.

00:50:34.780 And so when I we you guys mentioned really early in the show, and I wanted to get back to this, why some people say calling on Jesus works and some people like Tim Alvarez say, no, it doesn't.

00:50:45.320 You know, just because you call on Jesus doesn't mean you're not going to get beheaded in the name of whatever belief system you're a part of.

00:50:55.420 It doesn't mean he didn't hear you.

00:50:57.340 And it doesn't mean he didn't rescue you from that faith. 0.99

00:51:00.480 It your physical body may be dead, but you're if you've called on him, he is going to answer and he's going to hear you.

00:51:05.800 But then there are also the people who say, well, I called on him and nothing happened.

00:51:09.280 What did you call on Jesus?

00:51:11.540 Or are you calling on some made up entity?

00:51:15.920 You're not actually seeking Jesus.

00:51:17.520 You're seeking something.

00:51:18.640 Jesus.

00:51:19.320 Yeah.

00:51:19.540 Did you call upon the ascended master?

00:51:21.580 We're talking about some letters put together that makes a sound that comes out of our mouth.

00:51:26.620 I mean, when you call on Jesus, you're you are spiritually calling on him.

00:51:32.500 And it so, you know, God's able to see and feel your heart.

00:51:35.940 And it says he knows the desires of our heart.

00:51:37.800 So if you desire to call on Jesus, you don't have to say it out loud.

00:51:41.380 You can say it in your head, in your heart.

00:51:43.160 That worked for me many times.

00:51:45.500 Because when you're in a sleep paralysis type position, sometimes that's all you have is to speak with your heart.

00:51:51.300 And that works.

00:51:51.960 So there are people who say, well, calling on Jesus doesn't work.

00:51:55.120 I'm like, who are you really calling on?

00:51:57.860 Or, and did it work?

00:51:59.300 But you just don't understand what God's method is at this point.

00:52:03.340 And you don't understand what his will and his walk for you is.

00:52:05.960 You have to walk through the fire sometimes to be able to show other people how to not get burnt.

00:52:11.520 And that is where I take my walk, you know, and the things I've had to go through in my life as well.

00:52:19.280 I can take and God's going to give me beauty for these ashes.

00:52:21.780 And he's going to, we're going to take this evil and we're going to turn around and we're going to use it for good.

00:52:26.580 And we're going to, you know, laugh in the face of the devil on this one because he doesn't win.

00:52:32.780 He never wins.

00:52:34.280 It may be for a short time he's leading the pack, but he does not win.

00:52:39.280 And we know this.

00:52:40.560 And as long as we keep that in our heart, we're going to be okay.

00:52:44.700 So I wanted to bring that point home for your listeners who might have been wondering about that.

00:52:50.420 Why calling on Jesus works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't.

00:52:53.580 Because I think it's really important to understand that point.

00:52:57.440 That's like the story of the sons of Sceva, right?

00:53:00.240 Oh, yeah.

00:53:00.620 Where they're like.

00:53:01.480 They get beat up.

00:53:02.380 They come.

00:53:02.680 They're like, yeah, we come in the name of Paul who knew Jesus.

00:53:04.740 And they're like, I don't know you.

00:53:05.800 And then you're out of here.

00:53:07.200 Exactly.

00:53:07.480 That Jesus.

00:53:08.280 The one that Paul was here.

00:53:09.240 The guy with the silver boots.

00:53:11.220 Silver boots.

00:53:13.560 Well, we actually, and once again, I don't think it's a malice thing or a nefarious thing

00:53:21.220 to have a disagreement and things like this is, you know, we're all kind of stumbling

00:53:25.480 around.

00:53:27.080 But we had Tim Albarino on the show and it actually became quite contentious in a lot of

00:53:32.560 ways.

00:53:32.860 One of them was that aspect of it doesn't always work when you call on Jesus.

00:53:36.560 And, you know, that was, we had no business like, like challenging.

00:53:40.880 No, we had no, but we just started the show.

00:53:42.640 And we did get him to concede.

00:53:44.180 I don't like what you said.

00:53:45.940 Yeah.

00:53:46.380 Well, well, so he came on and we did get him to concede.

00:53:50.320 And I do think he conceded because he wanted us to shut up, which is fair.

00:53:54.820 But, but a lot of what we were talking about was, you know, oftentimes these grays will get 1.00

00:54:00.360 labeled as demonic, which I think is, is really, uh, I've come to terms with it as being a

00:54:05.400 descriptive for this thing that is in alignment with the adversary that is not of the spirit

00:54:10.640 of God that is in, in, uh, you know, an adversarial relationship with us on the other

00:54:16.200 side of the, you know, the, the playing field as it were.

00:54:19.380 And so, you know, he goes, well, I don't think there's any precedent for that.

00:54:24.000 And I'm going, that's a wild in my eyes, because you're a guy who has seen what we've

00:54:30.340 seen plus some, and, and you've not come to that conclusion.

00:54:33.060 Yeah.

00:54:33.260 Like the first half of your book is, is birthright.

00:54:35.920 I mean, it's birthright.

00:54:36.700 It's, it's, it's talk.

00:54:38.220 So, you know, this whole thing became really strange to us.

00:54:41.260 And then honestly, Karen, I believe it was you that has this story that really drove a

00:54:47.200 point home for me.

00:54:48.780 And it was when you were talking about being on the craft and seeing these bodies of the

00:54:54.720 grays piled up almost like out of commission, just hanging out, smelling bad. 0.52

00:55:00.540 I remember you said, um, which is interesting because that's all animals and urine and excrement.

00:55:06.680 Yeah.

00:55:07.200 Yeah.

00:55:07.480 I love this story.

00:55:08.680 I've heard it so many times, but only from David.

00:55:11.260 Yeah.

00:55:11.480 Yeah.

00:55:11.680 Yeah.

00:55:11.840 We have to, we, and please, I'm going to, I'm going to say this and then I want to get

00:55:15.340 into your experiences because there's nothing like firsthand, uh, accounts from people and,

00:55:19.600 and, and, and testimony.

00:55:20.540 Um, that I, I think that sort of thing is very important, but you know, you, you're describing

00:55:25.280 these things as out of commission, not occupied, not functioning at the moment.

00:55:31.120 And, um, and then because of it, you know, not smelling great is I don't think they were

00:55:34.740 too worried about washing them.

00:55:36.300 And, and, uh, and so we said to him, well, what about the potentiality that this is some

00:55:41.400 sort of biomechanical technology that is there to carry out an automaton, sort of a job may

00:55:51.020 even be able to be possessed by a spirit temporarily in some limited aspect and able, in order to

00:55:56.060 engage with the physical realm, because, you know, these disembodied spirits and such can't

00:56:00.840 do that.

00:56:02.160 Um, but just the, the idea that these are not associated with the demonic realm seems, and

00:56:07.960 basically he just said, yeah, you know what?

00:56:10.460 I never thought about that.

00:56:11.360 And I, and I, and I swear to you, I think.

00:56:13.680 Burke, he really does. 0.88

00:56:14.860 He says that they can't be demonic because they don't cuss and scream and rape and pillage 0.96

00:56:19.560 and kill. 0.85

00:56:20.520 And this is where he and I really, really go far apart. 0.50

00:56:24.220 And I've offered to sit down and debate this with him and talk with this with him.

00:56:29.320 He doesn't have any interest.

00:56:30.720 I'm, I'm nobody.

00:56:31.840 And I'm okay with that, you know, because that's not my, my ministry.

00:56:35.140 I want you to talk about this, Karen, but I want to say right here, we're going to 0.88

00:56:39.600 kill Timothy. 0.91

00:56:40.100 No, no, no. 0.85

00:56:42.480 Timothy Alvarez is just like, oh my God, what show am I on?

00:56:45.340 He really has a great ministry.

00:56:46.640 He does.

00:56:47.060 No, he's fantastic.

00:56:48.620 However, he sat down with us.

00:56:51.400 What was it?

00:56:51.780 Episode 14?

00:56:53.540 I don't know.

00:56:54.120 Seven?

00:56:55.100 Something.

00:56:55.380 Very early.

00:56:56.160 We're, we're, I don't know how many episodes in, hundreds of episodes in now.

00:56:59.620 He sat down with us very early.

00:57:01.220 He didn't perceive us as, as I don't want to say a threat, but, but Karen, you have firsthand

00:57:08.740 experience and you have the scripture to back it up and you have the, the body of research

00:57:14.560 and, and, and the, the communications that you're having with the team that you've developed.

00:57:19.060 It's extremely important to clear this up for the people because this guy is going on

00:57:22.800 the daily wire.

00:57:23.680 And I'm saying he didn't want this smoke from Karen Wilkinson.

00:57:25.660 And talking to people about these things.

00:57:27.480 We got to know what is actually going on so we can battle this because there's, there's

00:57:31.660 already enough smoke in the room.

00:57:33.140 Yeah, that's true.

00:57:34.640 Well, and I, and I feel very strongly about this.

00:57:36.720 Somebody challenged me on another podcast, probably about a year or so ago and, and, and

00:57:42.300 challenged why I don't agree or believe the way he does.

00:57:46.200 And I said, well, how many grays has Timothy Albarino been in contact with directly?

00:57:52.260 Because I want to talk about that.

00:57:54.420 And, you know, and I'm not trying to say that to be contentious, contentious or to start

00:57:59.640 a fight or anything like that.

00:58:00.720 It's just, he has valid points and I have no problem with the points he's making.

00:58:06.720 I think they make a lot of sense.

00:58:07.960 However, I also have valid points based on my experience.

00:58:12.820 And so that's what only, that's what I have to go on.

00:58:15.460 My experience and my knowledge of the biblical narrative, you know, he may know the Bible

00:58:21.000 much better than I do.

00:58:22.240 I'm not a Bible scholar, but I do study the Bible.

00:58:25.920 You know, it's part of my daily life.

00:58:27.420 You know, it's part of my spiritual walk and, and having researched this and having utilized

00:58:34.680 my own experience.

00:58:36.420 My take on these entities is that they are a biological construct created by the fallen angelic

00:58:44.240 beings to carry out the things that they need to do here in our atmosphere, in our presence,

00:58:51.500 so they can do so without direct permission, because it's not a true entity.

00:58:57.120 It's a thing.

00:58:57.800 It's like sending in a bomb robot to go disarm a bomb.

00:59:02.460 It's not, it's not a human.

00:59:04.460 It's not an angelic being.

00:59:06.580 It's just, it's kind of a nothing.

00:59:09.460 Now, the other thing that we have is these suits are made very limited.

00:59:16.480 The mouths don't open.

00:59:18.160 The eyes aren't like real eyes.

00:59:19.700 They look like a black screen.

00:59:21.180 There's no people.

00:59:22.160 There's nothing moving around in them.

00:59:23.800 There are other greys I have witnessed that look very different.

00:59:26.980 They're different sizes, different shapes.

00:59:29.000 They're taller.

00:59:29.600 Their eyes move.

00:59:30.400 Their mouths move.

00:59:32.100 But these little greys that all look the same, they're very cookie cutter. 1.00

00:59:36.360 Their eyes don't move.

00:59:37.620 They don't have any discernible facial features.

00:59:41.240 Their faces don't appear to move.

00:59:43.280 They don't have any discernible organs like male, female. 0.98

00:59:47.080 You know, they just, they look just like a really tightly knit fabric almost,

00:59:53.020 but almost like a cross between fabric and skin.

00:59:55.980 It's, you know, I don't know what they're made of.

00:59:59.300 My guess is it's some sort of a biologic construct, though,

01:00:02.160 because it smells so bad.

01:00:04.240 And I think they utilize the robot.

01:00:06.080 Like bare minimum to function is what they're designed for.

01:00:10.180 Yeah, absolutely.

01:00:12.000 Because they are, there are reports,

01:00:15.920 if you go into some of the reports and some of the leaks that have come out

01:00:19.540 over the last 50, 60 years, people like General Corso and such,

01:00:24.380 when they talk about the anatomy of these entities,

01:00:29.340 they literally just look like they're designed to carry no food.

01:00:34.680 They have no reproductive organs,

01:00:36.520 literally designed to just withstand changes in various atmospheric pressures

01:00:40.540 and to be able to sustain, you know,

01:00:44.280 going in between different temperature extremes, atmospheric extremes, etc.

01:00:48.900 Almost like a scuba gear would provide.

01:00:54.420 And we're a scuba diving family,

01:00:56.200 so it made a lot of sense to me when I read that,

01:01:00.240 because I'm like, exactly, that's exactly what it seemed like.

01:01:03.300 It's just, and to see them empty, to see them lifeless.

01:01:07.760 And even when they were moving,

01:01:09.540 when they were coming to get me, even as a small child,

01:01:11.900 they didn't seem to have any life.

01:01:15.420 They just, I just felt evil.

01:01:17.460 It felt a presence.

01:01:19.900 It felt evil.

01:01:21.000 And this is why I think that, you know,

01:01:23.580 when a Nephilim, when it passes away,

01:01:26.740 the spirit of a departed Nephilim is what we call a demon. 0.96

01:01:30.480 This is where we get the demonic entities from.

01:01:33.700 This is where we get that terminology,

01:01:34.980 which often gets mixed up with devil, demon, all these different things.

01:01:38.720 But we know from biblical text and we know from the extra canonical books

01:01:43.360 that a demonic entity is the disembodied spirit of a Nephilim.

01:01:46.960 It was neither, it says, I think, in the book of Enoch,

01:01:49.760 you're neither heavenly nor of earthbound.

01:01:53.140 So they don't have a place to go.

01:01:55.840 And then when we look at when Jesus is casting the demons out of the man,

01:01:58.880 they ask, put us into the pigs.

01:02:00.580 They wanted to be in something,

01:02:02.320 because they wanted to be, inhabit something and dwell something.

01:02:05.580 They've got nowhere to be.

01:02:06.580 If they're just kind of the ether, you know,

01:02:09.400 the spiritual ether that we hear so much about,

01:02:12.080 they can't really do anything.

01:02:13.680 They wanted to be in something, in the pigs,

01:02:16.920 which then went into the water.

01:02:19.420 Now that's a whole nother, that's a whole nother thing to get into.

01:02:24.260 Can we put a pin in that though?

01:02:27.140 Because that is, I already did.

01:02:28.820 And she's touched on it twice.

01:02:30.320 We're going to end up going there.

01:02:31.580 In the water.

01:02:32.440 Because if they, so they, they jump into the, into the water.

01:02:35.700 I assume they die.

01:02:36.600 Then where do they go from there?

01:02:37.880 They're in the water.

01:02:38.640 And I just think that has a lot to do with the,

01:02:40.760 what's going on under the water and submersion in the water.

01:02:43.740 There's so much to do with water when it says there'll be no more seas.

01:02:46.040 I think that so much is connected into the water and then the water and life

01:02:51.620 and blood is in the life.

01:02:52.780 You know, there's just, that's a whole nother long,

01:02:55.560 I know we don't have time to go down that road today.

01:02:57.440 And I don't think my voice will take me down that road today.

01:03:00.080 But, but so I want to go back to the greys real quick though. 1.00

01:03:04.160 So I believe that they're,

01:03:05.580 these entities are inhabited by demonic entities.

01:03:08.100 And this is where Timothy Albarino and I really part ways on this.

01:03:12.560 He says they can't be inhabited by demons because they don't rape.

01:03:15.200 They don't pillage, they don't cuss, they don't curse, they don't scream.

01:03:17.480 They don't do all the things that we know demons to do. 0.57

01:03:19.820 Well, who says these are the only things that demons do?

01:03:22.600 Who did, who defined what demonic actions are?

01:03:26.920 Because from what I know, they're deceptive and they can come as angels of light

01:03:31.600 or they can show, they're going to show as being as deceptive as possible,

01:03:35.280 possibly coming across as lovely, wonderful.

01:03:37.760 Look at all the most horrible serial killers and things like that,

01:03:41.940 that people get addicted to watching on TV.

01:03:44.580 I think some of the reason that we all get pulled into those things is that

01:03:49.020 we're fascinated by the fact that they come across one way,

01:03:53.080 but they're really another.

01:03:55.820 And can I say, Karen, on that topic too,

01:03:58.320 it's like they'll often present themselves as like the spirit of a,

01:04:02.680 of a, of a sweet 10 year old child.

01:04:04.660 You know what I mean?

01:04:05.140 Like, it's like the house is,

01:04:06.640 this house is haunted by the spirit of a sweet little girl.

01:04:09.100 Well, we're, we're doing that Bible study.

01:04:11.900 Yeah.

01:04:12.340 Yeah.

01:04:13.360 So they do that a lot.

01:04:14.580 Well, the other thing I wanted to, uh, uh, say too,

01:04:17.580 is wouldn't the spirit be limited by the flesh?

01:04:21.260 So if they're inhabiting an automaton that can't speak,

01:04:25.640 doesn't have the ability to do so, can't reproduce, you know,

01:04:29.380 any of these things that it's limited.

01:04:31.300 It's, it's, it's like, uh, you know,

01:04:33.420 whatever video game you play,

01:04:35.660 whatever your character can do is what you can do.

01:04:38.340 Exactly.

01:04:38.920 And so I think these are a little,

01:04:40.820 we're made a little lower than the angelic beings, right?

01:04:42.940 The angels tells us in the Bible, this.

01:04:45.040 So if this is a cross between a human and an angelic being,

01:04:48.180 then it's also a little lower than the angelic being.

01:04:50.440 So they're going to be able to control,

01:04:52.300 to Lord over these demonic entities and they can,

01:04:57.540 I wonder, this is theory.

01:04:59.680 I'm conjecture on my part.

01:05:01.140 You know, do they say, okay,

01:05:01.940 you're going to inhabit and occupy this suit.

01:05:04.420 You're going to do this job for this amount of time.

01:05:06.020 Then we're going to let you go and, you know,

01:05:08.280 live in this house or poltergeist this place,

01:05:10.340 or, you know,

01:05:11.340 take the next person who calls or summons a demon or what have you,

01:05:14.160 you know?

01:05:14.420 So are there,

01:05:16.120 are they making agreements and covenants with these entities,

01:05:21.140 having them, you know,

01:05:22.720 hang out in these little gray suits for a while?

01:05:24.480 They're just doing dirty work. 0.77

01:05:25.700 I mean,

01:05:25.940 they're just literally plucking people out of their homes and,

01:05:29.820 you know,

01:05:30.660 moving on to the next.

01:05:32.160 They are not doing,

01:05:34.520 I never saw these entities do anything significant when I was at whatever

01:05:41.260 destination I was taken to.

01:05:42.600 So when I would be taken sometimes I would just wake up on an exam table and

01:05:46.800 there would be entities doing things to me,

01:05:49.580 you know,

01:05:49.840 needles or machines I didn't understand,

01:05:52.380 or,

01:05:52.760 you know,

01:05:53.540 just all kinds of different medical procedures that never made,

01:05:57.240 no one ever explained to me what they were doing.

01:06:00.000 It was terrifying,

01:06:01.500 especially as a small child,

01:06:02.880 but the grays,

01:06:04.380 the entities I saw there,

01:06:05.900 their eyes moved,

01:06:07.020 their faces had expressions.

01:06:08.400 They spoke to me the same way these little grays did, 1.00

01:06:13.360 just mind speak,

01:06:14.340 but it was different.

01:06:15.960 It wasn't so matter of fact.

01:06:19.680 These little cookie cutter grays, 0.86

01:06:21.760 everything just seems so,

01:06:22.600 so robotic in nature,

01:06:28.380 but not robotic as,

01:06:30.060 as if there wasn't something really in there.

01:06:31.980 I mean,

01:06:32.900 could they be driven by AI?

01:06:34.920 Sure.

01:06:35.620 Could they be housing even another smaller entity?

01:06:39.140 Possibly,

01:06:39.780 but I really think it's just demonic entities in there.

01:06:43.380 And then when I was taken,

01:06:44.560 those other grays were very lifelike,

01:06:48.440 very different.

01:06:49.600 They didn't all look the same.

01:06:51.260 They all look different.

01:06:52.180 And they're like the ones that look like insects,

01:06:57.200 like they call mantis type.

01:06:59.440 They look,

01:07:00.860 there were so many crossovers of,

01:07:03.720 you know,

01:07:03.980 this gray looks more like an insect,

01:07:06.080 and this insectillin has a lot of,

01:07:08.160 looks more like a gray or more reptilian.

01:07:10.680 You know what I mean?

01:07:11.360 There was so much blur between the lines of these different types of entities.

01:07:15.580 It's hard to say how many types there were.

01:07:20.520 So I just grouped them into the insectillin types,

01:07:24.500 the grays,

01:07:25.700 the Nordic,

01:07:26.600 and the reptilian.

01:07:28.920 But they really did blur across all four of those.

01:07:31.480 And some looked more like one,

01:07:32.700 and some looked more like another.

01:07:33.800 But there were features in them that crossed across all four of those different types that I've mentioned.

01:07:41.860 But again,

01:07:42.740 back to those grays, 1.00

01:07:43.720 the little cookie cutter grays, 0.78

01:07:45.140 they're just,

01:07:46.160 I really think they're just disposable.

01:07:47.620 I think they utilize the bovine blood to refresh those suits.

01:07:51.420 And I think when they get old,

01:07:52.680 that's when you smell that nastiness.

01:07:55.400 I've been around dead animals,

01:07:57.340 dead cattle.

01:07:58.360 That's a really similar smell too,

01:08:00.180 to what they're like.

01:08:01.140 So much of it just made sense to me.

01:08:05.500 I never thought anyone would ever think any differently about the grays until I heard Tim's analysis on them. 0.88

01:08:12.660 And I was shocked that he would think that,

01:08:14.640 you know,

01:08:14.820 someone else would think differently about them.

01:08:18.780 But...

01:08:19.300 I mean,

01:08:20.180 I don't have an issue with thinking differently,

01:08:23.300 right?

01:08:23.540 That's not...

01:08:24.660 It's that he seems adamant.

01:08:26.700 I have an issue with it.

01:08:27.600 Like...

01:08:28.000 Well,

01:08:28.180 I mean,

01:08:28.420 it's...

01:08:28.920 If you have a different theory or something,

01:08:31.140 that's one thing.

01:08:31.780 But to go like,

01:08:32.760 no,

01:08:33.940 this is what it is,

01:08:35.560 that seems strange.

01:08:36.700 That's my issue.

01:08:37.400 My issue is...

01:08:39.120 I'm sorry.

01:08:39.620 Yeah,

01:08:39.840 I don't think I have the only opinion or the only theory on it.

01:08:42.660 And that's why I said I was shocked that someone else would have something different to say about it

01:08:45.480 or a different way of thinking about them.

01:08:47.340 But I'm totally open to that.

01:08:49.040 Because there could be different kinds,

01:08:51.320 you know?

01:08:51.680 There could be different ones.

01:08:52.560 And maybe he did encounter something and it was very different from these.

01:08:55.980 Who's to say?

01:08:56.740 I mean,

01:08:57.700 all I can talk about is what I have experienced personally.

01:09:01.380 The rest of it,

01:09:02.200 that's all.

01:09:03.440 I mean,

01:09:04.000 whatever.

01:09:04.660 I guess I'll burn a bridge here if this show ever gets big enough to watch it.

01:09:09.100 But they're gatekeeping,

01:09:13.420 like,

01:09:13.760 extra canonical text,

01:09:14.980 in my opinion.

01:09:15.660 Because we know a bunch of people who have been on that show who,

01:09:20.380 I mean,

01:09:20.700 he wrote the foreword for their Book of Enoch translation or,

01:09:24.420 like,

01:09:24.720 you know,

01:09:25.140 commentary.

01:09:25.560 And if they come with a different perspective of that specific phenomenon,

01:09:32.580 the episode's not aired.

01:09:34.380 That's not how I operate.

01:09:35.540 Or you never go ask back.

01:09:37.640 That's true.

01:09:38.340 Or they just don't put it on.

01:09:40.420 And so it was like,

01:09:41.000 hey,

01:09:41.240 yeah,

01:09:41.500 these guys follow me on Twitter.

01:09:44.340 So hit me up.

01:09:46.200 But I got a little bit of a problem with that.

01:09:47.800 Like,

01:09:48.100 it needs to be spoken about.

01:09:49.480 This is something that's happening.

01:09:51.100 Exactly.

01:09:51.420 And it's a problem.

01:09:53.780 But I did want to backtrack to what you said.

01:09:56.400 Well,

01:09:56.640 hold on.

01:09:56.940 I just want to add to what you're saying.

01:09:58.860 People who think that that is,

01:10:00.140 like,

01:10:00.400 maybe an inappropriate thing to do or otherwise,

01:10:02.800 this thing is coming fast.

01:10:04.300 Everything I do is inappropriate.

01:10:05.320 Well,

01:10:05.480 no,

01:10:05.620 no,

01:10:05.740 no,

01:10:05.820 no.

01:10:05.980 I mean,

01:10:06.460 I'm saying this narrative is coming fast.

01:10:10.140 It's incredibly important that this discussion be had.

01:10:15.280 And,

01:10:15.420 you know,

01:10:16.600 I believe that,

01:10:18.520 I'm not saying I have all the information,

01:10:20.620 but I believe that I'm operating within the truth.

01:10:22.480 I'm being honest.

01:10:23.660 And so if I'm being honest,

01:10:24.780 then I have to say this thing and we have to draw attention to that.

01:10:28.160 And so,

01:10:28.920 yeah,

01:10:29.160 if you do believe that this is a problem,

01:10:31.740 that there does seem to be some aspect of some Hollywood,

01:10:37.820 you know,

01:10:39.180 mind controlled sort of deception being released in the form of a,

01:10:44.000 of,

01:10:44.320 of disclosure and,

01:10:47.020 and that a lot of people are going to fall for some really horrifying

01:10:49.520 things.

01:10:50.680 Well,

01:10:51.100 well then,

01:10:51.580 you know,

01:10:51.820 you're obligated then to,

01:10:52.960 to speak the truth and say what you believe in and,

01:10:55.120 you know,

01:10:55.480 where your information has led you.

01:10:56.640 So we just won't get on any really nice big shows.

01:10:58.820 That's whatever.

01:10:59.900 But you had mentioned.

01:11:00.840 I'd rather share the truth and be popular and I'd rather give all the glory

01:11:04.580 to God than have glory given to me.

01:11:07.480 So,

01:11:07.660 you know,

01:11:08.400 if it's not a popular opinion,

01:11:09.960 I'm,

01:11:10.760 I'm sorry.

01:11:12.060 You don't have to listen,

01:11:13.500 but,

01:11:14.000 I can't,

01:11:15.360 I can't buy into a false narrative.

01:11:18.300 I can only share what I know to be true for me and support those.

01:11:22.580 I know they're sharing the truth and sharing the true gospel.

01:11:24.700 And beyond that,

01:11:25.680 I just wish everyone well,

01:11:26.880 but I can't be a part of that.

01:11:29.220 Yeah.

01:11:29.720 Listen,

01:11:30.040 like I said,

01:11:30.960 I don't,

01:11:31.240 I don't care either.

01:11:31.960 I'm on the side of the guy who created the universe.

01:11:35.280 So everything else falls where it may.

01:11:37.660 But you had mentioned that these small grays have like a rudimentary version of telepathy or their language. 0.99

01:11:44.740 Can you explain that a little better?

01:11:46.240 Because that's like something that really interests us.

01:11:48.700 Yeah,

01:11:49.740 it was what I call mind speak.

01:11:52.700 A lot of people like to call it telepathy,

01:11:54.120 but I,

01:11:54.420 I think of telepathy as more reading someone's thoughts without their permission.

01:11:59.780 Almost.

01:12:00.260 And this was just a really direct communication.

01:12:06.300 It felt as direct as just speaking with another person.

01:12:10.720 But instead of using words like this,

01:12:14.900 it was just thinking the words to each other.

01:12:18.300 And they were very,

01:12:19.820 they didn't ever,

01:12:21.700 sometimes they would just communicate like a thought or feeling like calm down.

01:12:26.720 It's okay.

01:12:28.060 Don't worry.

01:12:28.980 Don't worry.

01:12:30.200 Be quiet.

01:12:31.060 Go to sleep.

01:12:32.160 You know,

01:12:32.360 things like that.

01:12:35.180 Because it's,

01:12:36.100 there are nuances to it that's very different than natural speech.

01:12:39.380 So it's hard to describe.

01:12:41.300 But they were very,

01:12:43.120 they were always very limited.

01:12:45.860 I mean,

01:12:46.060 there were never any conversations.

01:12:49.640 There was never anything that seemed conversational to me.

01:12:52.120 It was always very specific,

01:12:54.320 very straightforward,

01:12:55.740 very task oriented.

01:12:57.040 And as opposed to when I was in the facilities where I was taken,

01:13:03.840 and I really believe it was underground facilities,

01:13:07.380 because of the elevators that we would get in.

01:13:10.260 And because I don't have a lot of ship memories of being like up,

01:13:14.140 you know,

01:13:14.520 hanging out on ships like that.

01:13:17.560 It was always most,

01:13:18.580 mostly not always in what seemed to be underground facilities.

01:13:22.560 There were no windows.

01:13:23.460 And it was,

01:13:24.780 it was just seemed to be,

01:13:27.400 excuse me.

01:13:29.180 They,

01:13:29.380 those were more conversational.

01:13:32.180 Those were more,

01:13:34.240 why am I here?

01:13:35.140 What's going on?

01:13:36.100 You know,

01:13:36.740 don't worry,

01:13:37.300 you're going to be fine.

01:13:38.020 We're going to take you back to your parents.

01:13:40.340 You know,

01:13:41.400 this is all,

01:13:42.420 you know,

01:13:42.800 you're helping us.

01:13:43.840 This is important.

01:13:45.300 But it was still telepathic?

01:13:47.480 Yes.

01:13:48.340 It was still,

01:13:49.060 there were noises.

01:13:49.940 I mean,

01:13:50.200 they were different.

01:13:52.220 There were definitely audible things going on as well,

01:13:54.920 but they weren't speech patterns like ours.

01:13:57.360 Nothing recognizable in that respect.

01:13:59.380 If they were communicating with audible language to each other,

01:14:05.840 I don't know because there were different like clicks and chirps and sounds

01:14:12.680 and things that didn't register to me as recognizable,

01:14:18.640 but we're very unsettling to hear.

01:14:23.120 That's interesting because if you think about animals and the way they engage

01:14:27.480 and like,

01:14:27.800 you think of like a bat,

01:14:28.600 which is emitting a sonar,

01:14:30.920 which is much,

01:14:31.420 it's a,

01:14:31.640 it's a frequency,

01:14:32.640 right?

01:14:32.780 Cause I just look at these things through the lens of frequency.

01:14:34.900 I don't know.

01:14:35.160 Obviously speech is vibration and frequency,

01:14:37.120 but chirps and clicks and things like that.

01:14:41.740 It's a very rudimentary version of communication,

01:14:44.580 but it is,

01:14:45.700 it is rooted specifically in just frequency.

01:14:48.940 True.

01:14:49.340 And there was always like this low vibrational hum when I would be taken when I would go through a window or a ceiling or a door or a wall or what have you.

01:14:59.780 That was accompanied by this frequency change,

01:15:03.780 there's this really low,

01:15:05.340 low vibrational hum that it felt like my body was just separating into a bazillion little pieces.

01:15:12.060 It's so hard to find a way to describe it that makes sense because it's not.

01:15:16.060 Disassociation.

01:15:16.540 Well,

01:15:17.380 not just disassociation,

01:15:18.840 but the way that you can emit a certain frequency that would cause glass to shatter is probably within the realm of possibility that you can create a frequency that would cause things to separate on a molecular level in order to pass through a solid object.

01:15:31.560 It's like they can manipulate space,

01:15:33.560 time,

01:15:34.020 energy and matter in ways that we don't understand yet or that we weren't intended to understand.

01:15:41.860 They have understanding of things that's so far beyond us.

01:15:44.800 And then at the time when I was being taken,

01:15:47.220 you know,

01:15:47.520 I would be taken in these rooms where the whole room was like a screen,

01:15:50.980 like a theater screen,

01:15:52.620 but we didn't have anything like that when I was little or,

01:15:56.640 you know,

01:15:56.820 so now to see these things,

01:15:58.840 you know,

01:15:59.140 touch screens that are invisible until you touch them or rooms that are all screens.

01:16:06.100 Well,

01:16:06.300 yeah,

01:16:06.400 we have that now,

01:16:07.300 but we didn't when I was little,

01:16:08.600 but those were the things I was encountering.

01:16:10.840 You know,

01:16:11.460 that the sideways elevators I would talk about that just moved so fast and didn't make any sound.

01:16:18.180 And I couldn't equate that to a high speed train or an automobile because everything in my life in the 1960s and 70s made a lot of noise.

01:16:29.140 When it moved,

01:16:29.960 you know,

01:16:30.680 cars were loud,

01:16:31.500 trains were loud,

01:16:32.300 buses were loud,

01:16:33.000 whatever.

01:16:34.320 So it didn't equate to me as being some kind of a mode of transport,

01:16:39.760 like a train or something,

01:16:40.920 which it probably was.

01:16:42.920 Um,

01:16:43.320 so they were so far ahead,

01:16:45.340 advanced at that point and still are today.

01:16:48.360 So it's so hard to understand how and what they do when it doesn't fit into our knowledge of physics and science.

01:16:57.360 And I don't have a good way to explain it.

01:16:59.940 So,

01:17:00.500 okay,

01:17:01.040 this is,

01:17:01.820 um,

01:17:02.080 this is something that's been developing a lot in,

01:17:05.240 in the UAP UFO space.

01:17:07.540 As far as the narrative goes,

01:17:09.460 maybe it's better to start with kind of the Hopi,

01:17:11.540 uh,

01:17:12.680 lore of the ant people,

01:17:14.360 which the way they describe them look very much like greys.

01:17:19.100 I don't know if it's the tall greys or,

01:17:20.840 or if it's the short automatons,

01:17:23.060 but,

01:17:23.320 um,

01:17:24.160 they,

01:17:24.600 they maintain that they're subterranean,

01:17:26.080 that these are ant people that live within the earth.

01:17:29.220 And then,

01:17:30.260 um,

01:17:32.320 it's interesting before we were talking about water,

01:17:34.400 uh,

01:17:35.660 and,

01:17:36.080 and just on that note of the pigs going in the water,

01:17:37.940 right.

01:17:38.960 It's like,

01:17:39.540 uh,

01:17:39.800 you know,

01:17:40.020 there's like that parasite that causes its,

01:17:42.800 its victim to,

01:17:43.660 to jump in the water because it,

01:17:45.000 it drowns itself.

01:17:45.860 Yeah.

01:17:46.140 It drowns itself.

01:17:46.860 And then it,

01:17:47.240 it births.

01:17:47.760 It's like a water.

01:17:48.420 I always think about that because I think there's a real correlation between parasites and demonic possession.

01:17:52.320 It's like they're,

01:17:53.220 um,

01:17:54.460 some sort of a conduit for negative spiritual energy,

01:17:57.100 but,

01:17:57.700 um,

01:17:58.540 so,

01:17:59.600 but that,

01:18:00.620 that pattern of the water now,

01:18:02.700 the UAP community seems to be comfortable with this idea that they are not coming from outer space.

01:18:09.220 Although there's still a big effort to push that in that direction.

01:18:12.620 You have the three eye Atlas thing that's happening right now.

01:18:14.580 And they're,

01:18:14.960 they're really trying to get us to believe that this is some sort of craft and it's coming from space,

01:18:18.620 but observation is showing that it's coming from the oceans.

01:18:24.380 Um,

01:18:24.860 and so in your experience,

01:18:27.480 since you're describing elevators,

01:18:28.740 you know,

01:18:29.640 you've said you've,

01:18:30.500 you feel as though this is,

01:18:32.340 do you think that this is happening exclusively within the earth,

01:18:35.300 subterranean underground,

01:18:36.280 or,

01:18:37.060 or is there room for this outer space conversation?

01:18:39.560 I think there's room for the outer space conversation only because I think that they can utilize the skies and the atmospheres as much as they're capable of.

01:18:47.960 And that it makes as much sense to come in and out of a portal in the sky as it would in and out of a portal under the water.

01:18:55.620 I mean,

01:18:56.500 depending on the time of day and where you are,

01:18:58.500 you're not going to be seen at night necessarily,

01:19:01.040 or,

01:19:02.220 you know,

01:19:02.520 so utilizing these things as a form of cover makes sense.

01:19:07.780 And,

01:19:08.060 you know,

01:19:08.660 there,

01:19:09.000 there's so much vastness under our feet that we're not aware of.

01:19:15.500 We don't think about,

01:19:16.240 I mean,

01:19:17.260 the oceans found under Florida and,

01:19:20.320 you know,

01:19:20.900 that area,

01:19:21.400 the,

01:19:21.540 the thousands of,

01:19:23.260 of,

01:19:23.960 um,

01:19:25.000 miles of,

01:19:26.400 of,

01:19:27.000 undiscovered,

01:19:28.780 un,

01:19:29.480 I'm not undiscovered.

01:19:30.680 Um,

01:19:31.840 un,

01:19:32.460 um,

01:19:33.920 untapped.

01:19:34.920 Tapped.

01:19:35.420 Yeah.

01:19:35.680 The,

01:19:36.060 just,

01:19:36.300 they're discovering more and more inner oceans within the earth core down further and further,

01:19:42.120 more levels of water,

01:19:43.420 levels of ocean.

01:19:44.120 And we know from the flood of Noah,

01:19:45.940 where the water comes up,

01:19:47.120 not all down.

01:19:48.760 Most of it comes from below the surface.

01:19:52.000 Um,

01:19:52.400 so I think it makes sense that they would utilize both.

01:19:56.560 Um,

01:19:57.380 we don't know much about the oceans and we don't know much about the upper areas of our

01:20:04.080 atmospheres and the,

01:20:05.140 and the sky either.

01:20:06.560 So there's so much that limits us.

01:20:10.040 We're really,

01:20:11.040 really limited.

01:20:12.200 I mean,

01:20:12.900 understanding scuba diving,

01:20:14.100 we can only go about a hundred feet before we get into some real danger.

01:20:18.660 Danger that messes with our thoughts and,

01:20:21.760 um,

01:20:23.100 messes with your brain and messes with your body and, 0.59

01:20:25.900 you know,

01:20:26.600 becomes deadly.

01:20:27.380 So there are so many places for them to set up shop and to hang out and to hide.

01:20:36.280 I mean,

01:20:36.880 we know what we know from school,

01:20:39.200 which what we were taught was someone's idea of what might be,

01:20:44.120 what makes up the earth.

01:20:46.380 But nobody knows we've only gone down like 15 miles.

01:20:49.760 And that was with this very small cylindrical drill.

01:20:53.000 Nobody knows what's under our feet,

01:20:54.640 but some of us who've experienced things underground know that there are vast networks down there.

01:21:00.940 I mean,

01:21:01.180 the places I went were huge,

01:21:03.220 bigger than football field stadiums and airports.

01:21:06.140 And,

01:21:06.680 you know,

01:21:07.420 my schools and all those things put together,

01:21:09.620 they were just massive.

01:21:12.680 And,

01:21:13.140 you know,

01:21:14.520 if that was on earth level,

01:21:17.420 we would see it.

01:21:18.900 Maybe.

01:21:19.960 And there's also a lot of the earth.

01:21:21.040 We don't know.

01:21:21.900 We haven't explored either unexplored.

01:21:24.220 Thank you.

01:21:24.460 That's the word I was looking for. 0.96

01:21:25.440 It was such a silly word. 0.95

01:21:27.140 But yeah, 0.95

01:21:27.560 unexplored depths of the ocean,

01:21:29.020 unexplored places on the earth,

01:21:30.800 unexplored areas of space.

01:21:32.120 There's too many places they could be.

01:21:33.780 And I think it's,

01:21:34.680 it makes sense they could utilize both because the,

01:21:36.960 the variances in pressure and outer space and in the water,

01:21:42.900 we're just talking about pressure variations and things.

01:21:45.320 So once you've managed to deal with that in space or underwater,

01:21:49.880 it's six to one half dozen of the other.

01:21:52.800 We were,

01:21:53.700 we were actually doing a documentary.

01:21:55.600 I mean,

01:21:56.920 it's been kind of a backburnered back,

01:22:00.760 but we've been doing a lot,

01:22:01.820 building a lot of stuff,

01:22:02.920 but there's a family in Sarasota that discovered like a deep underground

01:22:07.320 spring and their husband has been arrested and targeted by companies like

01:22:14.120 Nestle.

01:22:14.620 And it's a,

01:22:15.460 it's a debacle.

01:22:17.100 Yeah.

01:22:17.640 But we went out there,

01:22:19.040 we saw the water,

01:22:19.860 they tapped the,

01:22:20.660 the well for us.

01:22:21.860 And it's like a,

01:22:22.560 it's a extremely deep well,

01:22:24.460 but there's a lot of controversy.

01:22:25.600 Around it because of what it is.

01:22:28.540 It's like,

01:22:28.880 it's,

01:22:29.580 it's high in alkaline,

01:22:30.760 right?

01:22:31.140 And alkalinity and other kinds of minerals,

01:22:33.180 high in mineral.

01:22:33.780 So low in acidity,

01:22:35.040 high in mineral count.

01:22:35.920 And the,

01:22:36.420 the guy who is dealing with it specifically,

01:22:38.980 he's a very intelligent guy.

01:22:40.040 His name is Joe Gilberti.

01:22:41.160 He's an engineer and he doesn't think that it's as simple as like the aqueducts or

01:22:45.720 something.

01:22:46.020 He thinks that this is like an ocean.

01:22:48.620 Well,

01:22:48.720 yeah,

01:22:48.980 they,

01:22:49.300 they were able to look it.

01:22:50.640 It's a,

01:22:50.880 it's an ocean and it extends to like,

01:22:54.200 I don't know.

01:22:54.660 He said like Alabama or something like that.

01:22:56.140 It's,

01:22:56.280 it's tremendous.

01:22:57.180 Yeah.

01:22:57.780 Yes.

01:22:58.180 And that's the one I was talking about when I was mentioning the one they found in Florida

01:23:01.080 and I had it here somewhere.

01:23:02.840 I have some water in our house.

01:23:05.580 Actually,

01:23:05.980 I have a jug of it.

01:23:06.920 Yeah.

01:23:07.080 I haven't,

01:23:07.480 I haven't touched it yet,

01:23:08.400 but it's,

01:23:09.420 yeah.

01:23:10.220 Yeah.

01:23:10.660 I mean,

01:23:11.020 it's something that we've been working with.

01:23:12.380 It's just we've discovered we're not documentarians.

01:23:15.460 So it's a massive undertaking.

01:23:17.060 It's very expensive to do.

01:23:18.920 And it's like,

01:23:19.460 it's just a lot of work,

01:23:20.800 but we have so much footage and we want to tell this story.

01:23:23.780 It's just like,

01:23:24.480 I don't know where to begin,

01:23:26.920 but well in the,

01:23:28.200 in the descriptions of all of our shows,

01:23:29.620 if anybody is interested in helping Joe Gilberti,

01:23:31.680 who's still being prosecuted,

01:23:32.820 I think he just got sentenced to 15 years for trying to blow the whistle on this.

01:23:38.020 There's links and everything in our,

01:23:39.340 in our,

01:23:39.680 in our descriptions,

01:23:40.460 but it's funny too.

01:23:41.360 Cause I had actually,

01:23:42.000 we had asked Joe,

01:23:44.400 we got on a phone call with him from prison.

01:23:46.900 Oh yeah.

01:23:47.400 And I just blurted out,

01:23:48.540 Hey,

01:23:48.680 do you think that this water has anything to do with like the flood and Noah?

01:23:52.520 And he was like,

01:23:53.000 I don't know what you're talking about,

01:23:54.180 dude,

01:23:54.800 but this is good drinking water.

01:23:56.320 We got to get this.

01:23:57.980 And I was like,

01:23:58.700 just forget it. 0.54

01:23:59.900 I'm a crazy person.

01:24:01.280 Great guy though.

01:24:01.640 I mean,

01:24:01.780 he's more concerned with getting the water to the people.

01:24:05.540 You know,

01:24:06.120 it seems like they're,

01:24:06.760 they're causing scarcity,

01:24:09.800 artificial scarcity of water.

01:24:11.220 And they're giving people crappy water that.

01:24:13.620 Oh yeah.

01:24:14.120 That too.

01:24:15.580 Well,

01:24:15.680 no.

01:24:15.920 And the other,

01:24:17.000 that is,

01:24:17.740 I,

01:24:18.220 the other one was that there's a interior ocean 400 miles under our feet.

01:24:23.880 So that's definitely not what he tapped into,

01:24:25.900 but it creates a fourth form of water.

01:24:28.960 Not,

01:24:29.840 um,

01:24:30.360 it's not,

01:24:32.600 um,

01:24:35.080 steam,

01:24:35.620 not vapor,

01:24:36.560 not ice,

01:24:37.440 plasma,

01:24:37.800 not look at ice vapor.

01:24:40.040 It's a fourth form,

01:24:40.840 right?

01:24:41.120 It's,

01:24:41.520 um,

01:24:43.800 ringwoodite is,

01:24:44.880 is the,

01:24:45.680 is the,

01:24:46.500 uh,

01:24:47.680 gem.

01:24:48.040 It's top that it creates.

01:24:49.260 And I know I need to write about this and do more research and,

01:24:54.320 and get with you guys on this one,

01:24:55.800 because this is really interesting.

01:24:57.120 And I've just started researching what they're finding about this,

01:25:00.220 but there's,

01:25:01.220 it's a different process of dehydration and melting.

01:25:04.240 And,

01:25:04.660 um,

01:25:05.900 it was accidentally discovered and there's not,

01:25:09.500 there's not a lot out there about it.

01:25:10.760 You kind of have to search for it,

01:25:11.840 but it's really,

01:25:12.860 really interesting,

01:25:13.440 but it just goes back to my point of we're given this really specific,

01:25:18.260 um,

01:25:20.120 bottled up narrative of here's where we live.

01:25:22.920 Here's what's under our feet.

01:25:24.260 It's always been this way.

01:25:25.460 It will always be this way.

01:25:26.420 Don't worry about it.

01:25:27.140 Now move along citizen,

01:25:28.140 go on with your day.

01:25:29.220 And that's just not true.

01:25:31.040 You know,

01:25:31.800 I like,

01:25:32.680 um,

01:25:33.660 that we have the,

01:25:34.660 uh,

01:25:35.140 what's his name?

01:25:35.900 He says,

01:25:36.140 we have the historical amnesia.

01:25:38.600 We do.

01:25:39.380 We don't remember our Carlson.

01:25:42.020 No,

01:25:42.520 he did.

01:25:43.040 Hancock.

01:25:43.720 Graham Hancock.

01:25:44.560 Graham Hancock.

01:25:45.400 When he says we have this,

01:25:46.360 you know,

01:25:46.800 he is just so close to the truth.

01:25:48.860 He's just missing one important part,

01:25:51.400 but most important part,

01:25:52.980 most important part,

01:25:54.100 in my opinion.

01:25:54.820 Right.

01:25:55.120 But you know,

01:25:55.620 for the rest of it,

01:25:56.340 wow,

01:25:56.580 it's really good information.

01:25:57.820 And I a hundred percent agree with them.

01:25:59.240 We have this,

01:26:00.180 this historical amnesia where we,

01:26:01.740 we're because we've been given a very specific set.

01:26:05.000 And all we know is,

01:26:05.720 that's what we're taught,

01:26:07.200 you know,

01:26:07.560 and then spiritually,

01:26:08.400 we have to allow God to fill in the rest.

01:26:10.380 And we have to,

01:26:10.780 that takes faith and it takes work and it takes perseverance on our part.

01:26:15.580 But for most people,

01:26:16.340 it's just easier to say,

01:26:17.680 I'm just going to go along with this.

01:26:19.100 Cause I've got a job to do.

01:26:20.080 I've got bills to pay.

01:26:20.740 I've got kids to raise.

01:26:21.460 I've got mouths to feed.

01:26:22.200 I get that.

01:26:23.740 But we have to be open to the rest of it because there are so many people we could help by understanding the truth better.

01:26:31.220 And I think that's what drives people like LA and Vicki and myself is we've got to push harder.

01:26:36.580 We've got to find the truth.

01:26:37.720 We've got to share more truth.

01:26:39.080 We've got to help more people.

01:26:40.140 Because if you're sitting and you're not moving forward and you're just on the fence,

01:26:47.800 you know,

01:26:48.020 I don't want to be,

01:26:48.880 I don't want to be that. 0.97

01:26:49.920 And I don't want to watch people not have the blessings of eternal life because I didn't get off my butt and share the truth.

01:26:57.880 And sometimes these are the facts that people need that change their mind about things and help them see that light and see that truth.

01:27:06.020 And I just think it's important.

01:27:07.260 Sorry.

01:27:08.180 No,

01:27:08.320 no,

01:27:08.440 no,

01:27:08.580 no.

01:27:09.280 It's,

01:27:09.560 it's actually,

01:27:10.260 it's kind of alarming too,

01:27:11.960 that I know we,

01:27:13.040 we talk about like,

01:27:13.780 Oh,

01:27:13.880 we're in the end times,

01:27:14.800 you know,

01:27:14.960 but my mom's been saying that for quite a while.

01:27:16.960 But if you're telling me that you're seeing tech,

01:27:20.360 you were seeing technology that is,

01:27:22.980 it is in existence today.

01:27:24.700 Yeah.

01:27:25.100 But back then I'm like,

01:27:27.040 how much,

01:27:27.660 well,

01:27:27.780 that's the idea that why are we catching up?

01:27:29.560 That's where people think we have fiber optics from and touchscreens and everything.

01:27:32.520 I mean,

01:27:32.600 that's,

01:27:33.120 that's why we're catching up.

01:27:34.100 Yeah.

01:27:34.420 From the crashes and from what they gave us and what they traded us and things like that.

01:27:38.600 Do we have it all?

01:27:39.320 No.

01:27:39.620 And do we even understand what we have?

01:27:41.480 No.

01:27:42.480 I mean,

01:27:42.820 so much of this hasn't even been reverse engineered properly because they don't understand it.

01:27:47.600 Yeah.

01:27:48.120 You know,

01:27:48.520 I think even the crashes were a way of giving us a thing.

01:27:51.700 Oh,

01:27:52.000 a hundred percent.

01:27:52.760 I'm writing,

01:27:53.160 I'm working on another chapter for the next book that why do they crash?

01:27:56.620 Because I've got some really specific theories on that.

01:27:59.540 And because I just think that's so important for people to understand why are there,

01:28:04.320 there are thousands and thousands of crashes and reports.

01:28:07.120 People just don't realize how many and more significant than Roswell and before Roswell.

01:28:13.900 You know,

01:28:14.120 although Roswell is one we all gravitate towards because we've been given some specific information.

01:28:18.500 But why?

01:28:19.220 Why do we have that information?

01:28:20.560 You know,

01:28:20.700 why that one?

01:28:21.760 What about what happened before there?

01:28:23.100 What?

01:28:23.440 That whole Trinity area where Roswell is?

01:28:26.040 Oh my goodness.

01:28:26.840 There's so much that's happened just there.

01:28:29.280 So I'm just so excited to share all the rest of this information because there's so much more out there.

01:28:36.220 And working with people like L.A. and Vicki,

01:28:37.800 we get this opportunity to really dig into these subjects and research them and find out just so much stuff that the public hasn't been made privy to.

01:28:46.900 It hasn't been shared properly or shared well enough or shared at all.

01:28:51.480 So there's,

01:28:53.020 and I think this information will help people understand who we are,

01:28:57.260 where we come from,

01:28:58.300 what kind of a battle we're fighting and what kind of a future we're facing.

01:29:02.560 Do I think we're in the end times?

01:29:03.740 I think we could be,

01:29:05.600 but I think it can get a lot worse before we're really in the end times because I don't know about y'all,

01:29:10.780 but most of us have it pretty good.

01:29:12.680 We still have clean water and warm beds and clean clothes and shopping malls and fast food and cars and air conditioning

01:29:20.840 and all these crazy things.

01:29:22.980 End times to me says you don't have any of that.

01:29:25.860 So for me,

01:29:26.680 I just don't,

01:29:27.820 I don't see it as imminent.

01:29:31.080 But then again,

01:29:32.140 you know,

01:29:32.860 we're told to be like the watcher at the gate and be ready at any moment.

01:29:37.080 So it could be,

01:29:38.900 could it be tomorrow?

01:29:39.640 Sure.

01:29:39.920 L.A. likes to say next Tuesday.

01:29:41.940 But for me,

01:29:42.900 I think it's going to get a lot worse.

01:29:44.940 And I think we're going to be really,

01:29:47.380 I hope we get to be a part of that and really help people.

01:29:50.840 Through that,

01:29:51.220 because I think it's going to be a very,

01:29:52.620 very trying time before we are taken off of this earth for sure.

01:29:57.740 Well,

01:29:58.240 our friend,

01:29:58.800 our friend,

01:29:59.220 Matt,

01:29:59.540 that owns a coffee shop.

01:30:00.760 He says all the time that this is actually,

01:30:02.560 he thinks this is the worst time to be alive and to be a Christian because Christianity is, 1.00

01:30:09.800 it's almost like welcome in,

01:30:12.140 in America,

01:30:13.120 but not quite.

01:30:15.300 Like we get this weird watered down version of Christianity where,

01:30:19.200 you know,

01:30:19.980 we go to church,

01:30:20.980 but like when you look at it,

01:30:21.920 you kind of say,

01:30:22.620 Oh,

01:30:22.760 these people don't really know what's going on.

01:30:25.460 And they're very comfortable where they're at with the fast food,

01:30:28.420 with the convenience,

01:30:29.540 with every,

01:30:30.680 with the Netflix,

01:30:31.500 with the electricity version of Christianity.

01:30:33.660 Christianity.

01:30:34.380 Yeah.

01:30:34.780 We can walk around with a Bible in our hand and not,

01:30:37.420 not be beheaded and not be persecuted.

01:30:39.920 We don't have to hide in someone's basement to study together.

01:30:43.720 That's true.

01:30:44.220 Not only that,

01:30:44.660 but we could do a show like this where we're broadcasting openly and then nobody's coming to take my skin off.

01:30:51.840 I really like my skin.

01:30:52.680 Yeah.

01:30:52.900 But this show is this,

01:30:54.300 this is dangerous.

01:30:55.320 What we're talking about reading a Bible casually.

01:30:58.060 Like I've read the Bible.

01:30:59.340 I grew up in the church.

01:31:00.100 I read it casually my whole life.

01:31:01.660 No offense means nothing,

01:31:03.200 meant nothing to me.

01:31:04.400 It doesn't,

01:31:05.180 it helps you.

01:31:06.380 Right.

01:31:06.680 Yeah.

01:31:07.300 It doesn't mean that,

01:31:07.980 that like that pressure that's applied of,

01:31:11.300 uh,

01:31:12.460 where,

01:31:12.720 where you actually start to feel like,

01:31:14.260 Whoa,

01:31:14.900 I have to understand this.

01:31:16.360 There's something happening,

01:31:17.340 you know,

01:31:17.600 like there's something moving.

01:31:18.960 That's when you read that and you go,

01:31:21.000 wow,

01:31:21.240 I feel like I've never read this book before because now I'm understanding it in a different light.

01:31:25.640 So it's like that delusion of the safety and all that is,

01:31:28.980 it is almost more dangerous.

01:31:30.820 That's true.

01:31:31.440 They will say peace and safety.

01:31:32.820 Right.

01:31:33.200 And then,

01:31:34.480 and then you look at the book of Daniel.

01:31:36.100 We are like in the,

01:31:37.660 you know,

01:31:38.000 in the days of Noah,

01:31:38.920 we are,

01:31:39.480 men are going to and fro across the face of the earth.

01:31:41.960 The knowledge is increasing.

01:31:43.600 I mean,

01:31:43.840 look at the last 150 years to go from a horse and a buggy to,

01:31:48.220 you know,

01:31:49.120 the supersonic jets and these big triangle planes that look like UFOs in the air.

01:31:54.460 I mean,

01:31:54.940 we've gone so far,

01:31:56.220 you know,

01:31:56.860 in such a short period of time because we had help.

01:32:00.580 And what happened in the days of Noah,

01:32:02.600 they fell,

01:32:04.020 but they had been on the earth for quite a long time.

01:32:06.540 And I think in the days of Noah, 0.51

01:32:08.460 my opinion,

01:32:09.760 and I,

01:32:09.960 and I write about this in this first book,

01:32:12.340 things were a lot more sophisticated than people give a credit for.

01:32:16.740 I don't think they were living in,

01:32:18.040 in huts and wearing,

01:32:19.660 you know,

01:32:20.440 sandals and,

01:32:21.160 and sackcloth and linen and whatever.

01:32:22.780 I think that they were as sophisticated,

01:32:24.780 if not more so than we are.

01:32:26.200 I think they were very,

01:32:27.500 you know,

01:32:29.520 a very sophisticated society.

01:32:33.600 And when it gets to that point,

01:32:36.100 you're talking,

01:32:36.740 you know,

01:32:36.940 tower of Babel type level,

01:32:38.800 that's when God brought in the deluge,

01:32:41.620 the flood.

01:32:42.080 And I agree with Vicki.

01:32:43.680 Was that the first flood?

01:32:44.960 Who knows?

01:32:45.500 It could have been so many.

01:32:46.940 I mean,

01:32:47.280 how many ash lines have they found when they start digging down?

01:32:50.160 Because the first one wasn't very far down.

01:32:52.800 The first one that kind of proves the last flood,

01:32:55.700 the about five,

01:32:56.940 6,000 years ago,

01:32:57.700 but how many,

01:32:59.160 you know,

01:33:00.500 we,

01:33:00.820 we don't even,

01:33:01.740 we're just beginning to scratch the surface of understanding what could have

01:33:04.600 happened in the past.

01:33:05.440 Again,

01:33:05.820 historical amnesia.

01:33:06.980 We don't know.

01:33:08.520 And,

01:33:09.000 and we have enough to know what we need to know,

01:33:11.020 but I think it was a very sophisticated time.

01:33:13.240 I think they were technologically superior probably to where we are now.

01:33:16.460 And I think we're getting to that point again.

01:33:18.400 And I do think that's where the danger lies.

01:33:20.420 We get to this point,

01:33:21.660 we start getting so much information from the fallen ones and want to be as

01:33:27.300 gods.

01:33:27.920 And that's when God's going to come in and say,

01:33:30.160 Nope,

01:33:30.740 I'm coming back in.

01:33:31.920 We're going to have that moment again where he comes back and just fixes it

01:33:36.860 again.

01:33:37.700 Or,

01:33:38.380 you know,

01:33:38.780 at what point are we at the end?

01:33:41.000 You know,

01:33:41.240 at what point has the fullness come to pass?

01:33:46.020 You know,

01:33:46.540 only that God's choice,

01:33:47.880 right?

01:33:49.120 I want to,

01:33:50.120 well,

01:33:51.340 well,

01:33:51.680 first off,

01:33:52.060 I want to,

01:33:52.340 I want to respect your time.

01:33:53.400 We're coming up on the hour and a half mark,

01:33:55.200 but I want to talk about before we get out of here,

01:33:58.340 what you guys are working on.

01:34:01.560 I mean,

01:34:01.660 I said at the top of the show,

01:34:02.520 I'm a big fan of,

01:34:03.500 of the sort of information that,

01:34:06.560 that the three of you are putting out.

01:34:08.100 We got to talk to LA again soon.

01:34:10.140 Yeah.

01:34:10.520 Last time he yelled at me last time,

01:34:12.400 but yeah,

01:34:12.740 I said,

01:34:14.620 he said,

01:34:16.180 I don't remember what the word was,

01:34:17.940 but he said something and it wasn't that bad.

01:34:20.960 It wasn't that bad,

01:34:21.840 but LA reprimanded you. 0.99

01:34:23.240 And then he gave thumbs up and fireworks went off on his Skype because for some reason,

01:34:28.300 that was the gesture that fireworks happen.

01:34:30.860 But we had a blast talking to him.

01:34:33.000 We have to have him,

01:34:33.500 we have to have him back on soon.

01:34:34.640 But you guys are very busy.

01:34:37.340 You're always going everywhere.

01:34:38.380 There's always these conferences and speaking engagements and everything.

01:34:42.780 What is,

01:34:43.300 what's on the horizon?

01:34:44.220 Is there anything specific that,

01:34:45.460 I know you're talking about books that you're working on and information you want to put out.

01:34:48.920 What,

01:34:49.080 what can we expect from,

01:34:50.160 from that corner of,

01:34:51.800 of,

01:34:52.880 of,

01:34:53.100 I guess the,

01:34:53.840 the,

01:34:54.500 the LA verse.

01:34:55.900 Well,

01:34:56.260 we just finished the last conference of the year because now we're in what's called fire season in California for them.

01:35:01.340 So they stay home this time of year just to keep an eye on things.

01:35:05.360 Next year,

01:35:06.460 I know we'll be doing the prophecy watchers conferences and there's one in Colorado and there's going to be another one in Branson again.

01:35:14.520 I don't have a full schedule yet for next year,

01:35:16.620 but I'm working on my next book.

01:35:18.060 I know Vicki's doing the same and LA is doing the same.

01:35:20.540 So you'll see something coming out from all three of us next year.

01:35:24.060 God willing.

01:35:24.980 And we're still here.

01:35:26.320 So,

01:35:26.560 so we're all looking forward to that.

01:35:28.560 We're all kind of,

01:35:29.520 we're all in a completely different directions with them.

01:35:31.220 So it should be really exciting and fun.

01:35:33.960 I'm looking forward to reading theirs.

01:35:36.880 So that,

01:35:37.780 that's what's next for all of us.

01:35:39.080 I mean,

01:35:39.360 it's time for,

01:35:40.580 it's time for new books.

01:35:41.460 It's time for new information.

01:35:43.600 And there's just been so much going on.

01:35:45.680 There's just a plethora of information to share.

01:35:47.960 So we're working on that and we're just steadily plugging away at continuing to write for LA's newsletter,

01:35:54.680 which is just such a great wealth of information.

01:35:57.660 He's got people like Mondo Gonzalez and writing for him and,

01:36:01.640 you know,

01:36:01.960 so many amazing people.

01:36:04.560 If you haven't checked it out,

01:36:06.800 it's,

01:36:07.380 you can get to it at his website.

01:36:09.580 It's such a wonderful reference.

01:36:11.680 And Vicki and I really enjoy trying to coordinate.

01:36:14.200 She and I are both writing about DNA this month.

01:36:15.940 So we try to get our messages together sometimes and coordinate what we're writing about.

01:36:22.240 And that's a lot of fun too,

01:36:23.720 but that's pretty much it.

01:36:24.680 That's what we have right now.

01:36:25.700 I don't have a lot on next year's schedule yet,

01:36:30.380 but keep an eye out on our websites and we'll have it posted when we do.

01:36:34.620 Well,

01:36:34.740 I would,

01:36:35.140 I would love to,

01:36:35.980 if you guys are ever in the area,

01:36:37.580 get you over here because at this,

01:36:38.860 at this studio slash coffee shop,

01:36:42.080 no,

01:36:43.300 it's not a casino slash Christian library.

01:36:46.720 And there's a big,

01:36:47.920 there's no casino,

01:36:48.820 but we do have this,

01:36:50.140 this big,

01:36:50.660 you know,

01:36:51.380 this long table with a big screen TV.

01:36:53.340 And they do all kinds of talks here all the time.

01:36:55.520 And we have a lot of LA's works actually sitting on the shelf in the back here.

01:37:00.980 It would be great if you guys were ever in the area doing something bigger.

01:37:04.140 If you didn't,

01:37:04.840 if we can convince you to swing by this,

01:37:06.880 this meek little shop and do something,

01:37:10.120 do something here.

01:37:10.940 I think we could really bring people out and do something interesting.

01:37:13.500 And then of course,

01:37:14.220 you know,

01:37:14.420 we have the studio here.

01:37:15.320 So how fun would that be to have?

01:37:17.620 That would be awesome.

01:37:18.460 We went to Florida a lot and we just,

01:37:20.400 actually,

01:37:20.820 we all just came back from there last month.

01:37:23.220 We were out there for a week,

01:37:24.180 but for a vacation time,

01:37:25.820 much needed vacation,

01:37:26.720 not work.

01:37:27.580 But a little break.

01:37:30.660 So,

01:37:31.020 but we love,

01:37:33.020 we love that area.

01:37:33.840 We love Florida.

01:37:34.600 So we will absolutely make it a point to make it your way.

01:37:38.640 That sounds like a lot of fun.

01:37:40.580 Karen,

01:37:41.080 we have one last question before we shut this out.

01:37:43.400 I didn't forget.

01:37:44.320 I didn't forget.

01:37:45.180 This is something that we love to ask all of our,

01:37:47.200 all of our guests.

01:37:47.820 And it's always yields a kind of fascinating answers,

01:37:51.400 not necessarily in this episode,

01:37:53.160 but especially in your works and you know,

01:37:56.640 your team and just everything that you're doing.

01:37:58.700 Are you having fun?

01:38:00.820 Oh,

01:38:01.240 I'm having the best time.

01:38:02.880 You know,

01:38:03.520 there are a lot of challenges and there are heartbreaks and heart aches and

01:38:08.980 cathartic moments.

01:38:11.500 But on the other flip side of that,

01:38:13.840 I've met the most amazing people.

01:38:15.240 I have made the best friends of my life.

01:38:17.560 I have met the most amazing,

01:38:19.100 wonderful people.

01:38:21.140 I consider family now.

01:38:22.380 And I've met so many amazing people like you guys.

01:38:24.940 And that's my favorite thing,

01:38:26.960 you know?

01:38:27.400 And so I am having a blast.

01:38:28.800 I'm having an absolute ball.

01:38:30.260 Yes.

01:38:31.640 It's good to hear it.

01:38:32.380 We find that people that are doing work that they feel is important and they

01:38:37.860 feel convicted to do.

01:38:39.000 Work that they're supposed to be doing.

01:38:40.480 That's it.

01:38:41.220 Work that they're supposed to be doing.

01:38:42.940 It takes a lot to figure out what we're supposed to be doing.

01:38:45.200 And,

01:38:45.640 and I think that that's the overwhelming theme given a few exceptions.

01:38:49.720 But when we ask people on this show,

01:38:52.020 no matter how intense the subject matter is,

01:38:56.080 yeah,

01:38:56.580 they're,

01:38:56.820 they're having fun.

01:38:58.600 If it's what you're supposed to say.

01:38:59.320 We have our moments for sure.

01:39:01.520 There are intense moments and there are a lot of tears and a lot of

01:39:04.260 frustration and a lot of challenges that we all face.

01:39:07.960 But you know,

01:39:08.340 when you're doing it with people you love and you trust,

01:39:10.600 and then you get to meet people like you guys who are just doing so much

01:39:13.360 good in the world,

01:39:14.220 it makes it so much easier.

01:39:17.060 And,

01:39:17.560 and it's just,

01:39:18.800 it's a pleasure to be able to serve God and his kingdom in such a way that

01:39:23.900 helps people,

01:39:24.980 you know,

01:39:25.540 and you don't make any money doing this,

01:39:27.580 but you definitely make a lot of friends and lifelong connections.

01:39:32.600 And that's,

01:39:33.720 that makes it all worth it.

01:39:35.320 Well,

01:39:35.700 you should be making some money.

01:39:36.760 Somebody go buy your book.

01:39:38.540 There's a website at the bottom.

01:39:40.320 Karen is an author.

01:39:41.340 Go buy her book,

01:39:42.120 read about it,

01:39:42.860 learn about it.

01:39:43.680 So that way maybe you won't get abducted or at least you'll be armed with

01:39:48.040 some information and you won't be lost when you have some horrifying

01:39:51.860 experience and you can,

01:39:53.840 that's one thing that this show has like,

01:39:56.000 we do a,

01:39:56.800 sorry,

01:39:56.980 I will let you go after this,

01:39:57.860 but we do a segment where we get the emails of our listeners and they

01:40:01.440 tell us,

01:40:01.940 and these people have their testimonies.

01:40:03.520 Yeah.

01:40:03.800 They have like the same experiences over and over.

01:40:06.240 So like we're creating,

01:40:08.600 trying to create a library.

01:40:09.920 Tony Merkle does a great job with the confessionals of like,

01:40:12.980 create this repository of information of things that happen,

01:40:17.640 how they're dealt with,

01:40:19.060 where they come from,

01:40:20.220 what they are.

01:40:20.860 Yeah.

01:40:21.120 How did,

01:40:21.640 yeah.

01:40:21.740 How to address it.

01:40:23.240 And it's like,

01:40:24.200 yeah,

01:40:24.560 but so many stories that are similar.

01:40:26.660 And I think that our,

01:40:27.940 our listeners get a lot of value from people like you and the books that you

01:40:32.900 write,

01:40:33.140 the articles that you write.

01:40:33.980 So go pick up her book. 0.61

01:40:35.000 Don't be like that.

01:40:35.880 Oh yeah.

01:40:36.380 And Hey,

01:40:37.140 I am happy to send you guys some of my books and some other ones too,

01:40:40.380 from mine in LA's and Vicky's that you can add to the library there.

01:40:43.600 If you can get a copy,

01:40:46.360 I'll just send you some that you can have.

01:40:48.500 This is why he's on the shelf over here.

01:40:50.300 They come out at night,

01:40:51.480 anything,

01:40:51.960 please send us,

01:40:52.900 send us whatever you'd like.

01:40:54.120 I will take it.

01:40:54.800 It's going to fall if I pick it up.

01:40:56.360 I've had an extra one of these.

01:40:57.560 That's the 10 discs set.

01:40:58.720 I'll get one of those guys up to you.

01:41:00.140 So I happen to have an extra one here.

01:41:02.840 Don't tell anybody.

01:41:03.840 Don't tell LA.

01:41:04.900 Cause he'll get mad.

01:41:05.420 I'm not going to tell anybody.

01:41:06.440 This isn't going to air to the public.

01:41:07.920 No,

01:41:08.100 we'll pay for it.

01:41:10.260 We'll tell LA.

01:41:12.080 Email me.

01:41:12.840 We'll get this going.

01:41:13.600 I'll send you guys a little care package of stuff for your library.

01:41:16.840 Cause I think that's great.

01:41:17.660 People need to have access to these things.

01:41:19.920 You don't want there to be a barrier to access to things like this.

01:41:22.820 And,

01:41:23.300 you know,

01:41:23.880 I would give my book away rather than sell if I could,

01:41:26.980 you know,

01:41:27.240 if it was free to print these things and do these things,

01:41:29.540 I would,

01:41:29.860 I would do that.

01:41:31.100 It just isn't unfortunately,

01:41:32.200 but I will help wherever I can.

01:41:35.820 And yeah,

01:41:36.020 we'll get some stuff to you guys for sure.

01:41:37.840 That would be great.

01:41:38.620 We're going to get stuff.

01:41:39.420 The rest of you guys got to go to Karen Wilkinson author.

01:41:42.800 Go visit you guys live in your little,

01:41:45.840 in your studio there at the coffee shop.

01:41:47.880 And it'll be there and people can read it while they sit there and hang out.

01:41:50.660 Right.

01:41:50.860 That is true.

01:41:51.840 We get a lot of people that come in here,

01:41:53.540 fans of the show and they do a lot of reading.

01:41:55.960 They hang out.

01:41:56.480 Just ask us.

01:41:57.000 We got a bunch of cool stuff hanging out in the studio.

01:41:58.820 I don't know if they know how to read,

01:41:59.360 but they sit here and they look at the book.

01:42:01.000 They do look at the book.

01:42:01.760 I don't know if they,

01:42:02.140 but we have all kinds of fun stuff in here.

01:42:03.800 So if you guys are listening that you make trips to the shop,

01:42:05.880 don't be afraid to ask us,

01:42:06.880 but you got to give it back.

01:42:07.740 We'll make sure we get a couple extra there for people. 0.52

01:42:11.920 And that way if somebody needs it,

01:42:12.960 they'll have it and you should,

01:42:14.220 you know,

01:42:14.980 have it,

01:42:15.360 have access to these things if people are trying to find them.

01:42:18.300 So,

01:42:18.980 well,

01:42:19.140 it's such a pleasure to be with you guys today.

01:42:20.880 I feel like I was all over the place with information.

01:42:23.460 If anyone has any questions,

01:42:24.480 just send me a,

01:42:25.680 just send me a message through my website,

01:42:27.720 not through social media.

01:42:29.000 Cause I cannot monitor those email,

01:42:30.880 those mailboxes,

01:42:31.860 but I will,

01:42:32.360 I do monitor the one through my search through my website.

01:42:35.640 So just send me an email and I will graciously get back to you as soon as I can.

01:42:40.300 All right,

01:42:40.840 Karen promise.

01:42:41.460 We'll talk again.

01:42:42.600 Absolutely.

01:42:43.140 I'm looking forward to it.

01:42:44.380 I hope we'll see you on the spot.

01:42:45.900 That's not wonderful.

01:42:47.280 You guys are wonderful.

01:42:49.080 Thank you.

01:42:49.980 God bless you guys.

01:42:50.920 Have a blessed day.

01:42:51.660 Thank you for the prayer.

01:42:52.420 God bless you.

01:42:53.040 Yeah.

01:42:53.200 Thank you for starting the show that way.

01:42:54.780 It's always,

01:42:55.280 yeah,

01:42:55.400 we should do,

01:42:55.900 we need to do that more.

01:42:56.920 We just forget we're always scrambling,

01:42:58.420 but yes,

01:42:58.740 thank you for that means a lot.

01:42:59.900 You have,

01:43:02.720 have a good day,

01:43:03.380 Karen.

01:43:06.140 Guys,

01:43:06.860 don't forget to obey,

01:43:08.140 submit and comply.

01:43:08.960 We'll see you tomorrow.

01:43:10.240 Bye.

01:43:29.900 Bye.

01:43:37.680 Bye.

01:43:37.920 Bye.

01:43:38.420 Bye.

01:43:39.020 Bye.

01:43:39.900 Bye.

01:43:40.560 Bye.

01:43:47.240 Bye.

01:43:47.840 Bye.

01:43:48.040 Bye.

01:43:48.680 Bye.

01:43:49.020 Bye.

01:43:54.500 Bye.

01:43:56.880 Bye.

01:43:58.860 Bye.

01:43:59.240 Bye.

Nephilim Death Squad - November 11, 2025

Hybridization Program ｜ Karin Wilkinson

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