Nephilim Death Squad - July 07, 2026


In the Shadow of Goliath w⧸ William Blesch


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00:02:26.440 Joining us today is William Blesch.
00:02:28.660 Will, it's a pleasure to have you.
00:02:30.260 Before we get into this conversation, let's talk about what it is you focus on and where
00:02:34.660 people can find your work.
00:02:36.560 First of all, thank you so much for having me to begin with.
00:02:40.480 Where people can find me, they can find me at williamblesch.com.
00:02:44.720 Blesch is B-L-E-S-C-H dot com.
00:02:48.980 And then on Facebook, I just got done telling you guys I'm super approachable.
00:02:53.640 people can just put up my name into the search bar and boom voila there i am so well i'm i'm
00:03:00.160 very excited to get into this conversation uh almost serendipitously serendipitously that's
00:03:06.360 not the correct application of the word we'll just pretend it is can we all pretend it is uh
00:03:10.620 by by happenstance there we go um this morning i was doing a little bit like really kind of
00:03:16.580 cursory study on uh goliath and how you know can i guess how like this conversation went in your 0.98
00:03:22.360 head sure did he say something like i bet you i can kill him no i did not say i bet you i can kill 0.56
00:03:27.320 him uh although that was a lot of the conversation i was reading you know posts from people that were 0.98
00:03:31.920 saying in some of the earliest manuscripts i guess maybe the dead sea scrolls uh goliath is said to
00:03:38.620 have only been uh six nine well later translations uh come up to nine nine nine foot nine inches
00:03:45.460 and of course if he's six nine then there's a bunch of people on the internet speculating like 0.74
00:03:50.220 Well, I think I probably could have killed him as well.
00:03:53.020 So, you know, it's a fascinating conversation and one that comes up often here, but I don't 0.71
00:03:57.440 know that we've ever gone into a tremendous amount of detail.
00:04:00.240 So, Will, where do you want to start this conversation?
00:04:04.200 I am OK with starting it wherever you guys want to start it.
00:04:07.840 Like there's so many different things that I talk about in the book itself that it's
00:04:13.700 just like it's a really rich, you know, subject for exploration.
00:04:19.200 So I'm easy. Well, let's let's do this then. What compelled you to create the book? I mean,
00:04:25.680 what is the seed that then blooms into this this tree that is your book?
00:04:30.040 OK, so the book itself is called In the Shadow of Goliath. Right. And the whole concept is kind of
00:04:35.760 like a metaphor for where I think we are today. Goliath was representative. He was a remnant
00:04:45.600 of the nephilim right and these were hybrid beings that were created through an unholy union between 0.95
00:04:53.180 angelic beings and human women and it was not sanctioned by god these were rebels you know
00:05:00.480 basically cosmic rebels uh non-human entities right and they did something that was against
00:05:09.020 the divine order and that rebellion was really like um expressed verbally um in the things that
00:05:20.600 goliath happened to say when he's standing there against israel and against david
00:05:25.260 all this all the boasting uh and all of the arrogance and the anger and the hatred
00:05:30.700 that he was expressing against Yahweh, the God of Israel.
00:05:37.500 It's something that has never actually gone away.
00:05:42.440 Goliath himself was defeated and got his head cut off.
00:05:45.600 But that same rebellion is still here.
00:05:49.080 It's still active in the world today.
00:05:52.280 And all of us have been born right into the middle of this ongoing cosmic war.
00:05:58.220 and we're standing in the shadow of that evil that's what that's that's that's the concept
00:06:06.740 behind the the title and the overarching um like direction for the investigations that i undertook
00:06:17.400 that's a familiar concept this idea that we're almost experiencing the echoes of that very
00:06:25.100 moment. When Ecclesiastes says there's nothing new under the sun, that's something that we can't
00:06:30.640 get out of our mouths. We're saying that constantly on this show. In fact, recently with the revelations
00:06:35.560 regarding sort of UFO disclosure in the Epstein files, you know, these these ideas ruffle a lot
00:06:43.840 of feathers. And for some people, it's paradigm shattering to find out that there are those who
00:06:52.020 are in positions of power who are commuting with you know ancient spirits or ancient gods or that
00:06:58.640 there are entities and technologies that are being introduced to mankind and I'm looking at all of it
00:07:05.040 like it's not much of a revelation really it's just the world the world as it's always been I
00:07:12.300 think the thing that's happened instead of these things being revealed to us that's not really
00:07:18.800 groundbreaking what is groundbreaking is that they managed to obscure the nature of the world
00:07:24.000 from us for so long because all of these things that we're being introduced to currently are
00:07:29.580 echoes of the bible these are just things that uh you know the ancient world seem to be much
00:07:35.720 more familiar with than we currently are so it's a you hide it from us and then you pull the curtain
00:07:41.520 back and for a lot of people it's like i said paradigm shattering but it's always been the
00:07:46.780 world has always been that way well can i can i ask a question i this might seem like rudimentary 0.83
00:07:51.200 or i don't know kind of stupid but uh biblically i think goliath says that he defies the ranks of
00:07:57.060 israel right and uh but but that is like that's extrapolated i take it also as like i defy the 0.97
00:08:04.880 god of israel is that i believe he does yeah i believe he actually says i defy the god of israel
00:08:09.800 i think that's actually that's actually a quote yeah i'm trying to remember exactly but it's just
00:08:16.100 it's it's funny because that is very much the attitude of the world today like as you're
00:08:21.920 describing it right now every time I see something that uh flies in the face of I mean I was just
00:08:26.900 explaining to my son unfortunately my son's six and in a game that he's playing they had like
00:08:32.000 rainbow flags and stuff and I had to explain to him like well you know now I have to have this
00:08:36.880 conversation about sexuality with you and explain what it is from this point of view and it I don't
00:08:43.060 know it's just it was it's a bit uncomfortable and i like it's not one that i want to have but
00:08:46.580 in in a sense i'm telling them that well the rainbow seemed to be a promise from god and
00:08:52.400 now it seems to mean something else and it it screams that same thing it's it's an echo from
00:08:58.300 that where i defy the god of israel to now i defy his promise like it's it's just a shadow like it
00:09:07.040 sorry like an echo through time and yeah i think you're right we're dealing we're dealing with this
00:09:12.780 all over again or never stop dealing with it possibly i think that's absolutely true and i
00:09:18.180 also think going back to what you said a moment ago about uh you know it being paradigm shattering
00:09:24.920 the whole idea of disclosure um the only people i think that is really paradigm shattering too
00:09:31.060 are uber religious people that are uh you know whether they're jews christians they come from
00:09:38.360 a judeo-christian background um but that's based on tradition and it's not necessarily based on
00:09:45.300 what the bible itself actually has to say there are like the whole idea that you know we're alone
00:09:52.540 in the universe and this kind of that's not what the bible says it never says that even one time
00:09:58.460 and it flat out shows that we are uh you know that there are other beings non-human entities
00:10:07.180 that are you know that they have free will they come and they deliver messages and how do we know
00:10:15.320 that they have free will well if there's if you believe that satan is an angel and that angel
00:10:22.040 convinced other angels to join into a cosmic rebellion against god um unless you think god
00:10:31.960 ordered these angels to rebel against himself, they chose, they made a choice to go against
00:10:40.620 the king of all creation, right? And so we have these non-human entities who were around 0.55
00:10:48.560 before humanity existed, who were around actually before the earth was created, because in the book 0.66
00:10:55.040 of Job, it says the morning stars saw the creation of the earth and they sang together for joy when
00:11:01.460 it happened when God created it. So you have these super ancient beings who are not from earth,
00:11:10.140 who are not us, and who are as intelligent as us. Some of them look like us, and you know that
00:11:19.580 they have free will just like we do. So if you understand that, then the Bible itself already
00:11:29.380 provides a framework for understanding the fact that, hey, we're not alone in the universe.
00:11:36.600 So when somebody else comes along and says, you know, you have some president or some other,
00:11:42.280 you know, you have the Pope, whoever comes along and says, we have indisputable evidence that
00:11:48.440 mankind is not alone in the universe. Okay. You know, that's how I think Christians should
00:11:56.820 actually respond to that the whole idea of disclosure right now would be like
00:12:01.580 okay we already knew that because the bible already presents the evidence for it what do
00:12:09.460 you think then when you hear that that kind of sentiment right so so obviously the bible
00:12:13.340 there's so many different entities in the bible you have uh powers and thrones and dominions and
00:12:20.260 archangels and cherubim and seraphim this like list goes on and on devils demons unclean spirits
00:12:25.920 nephilim if you really started to draw all of the different things out of the bible you would find
00:12:31.000 yourself with a handful uh of different terminologies that have nothing to do with
00:12:35.720 humans um and yet the narrative that's unfolding is resoundingly christians are going to have a
00:12:44.700 hard time with this i mean that's what we keep getting over and over again steven spielberg's
00:12:48.920 maybe the best uh example of it yeah specifically christians and it's not like people aren't saying
00:12:54.200 well buddhists buddhists are gonna have a hard time with it you know what i mean like it's yeah
00:12:58.520 i understand what you're getting at but i like i do think some christians not not all christians
00:13:03.460 like i i don't like calling myself a christian i like i don't like labels um but i do consider
00:13:12.200 myself to be a follower of yeshua of nazareth the one in the gospels right not the new age version
00:13:18.860 You've got to be careful, right? Not the Pleiadian one, not the Christ-conscious one.
00:13:22.200 That's right.
00:13:22.720 Not the Master one, specifically the Son of the Living God, yeah.
00:13:26.540 That's exactly right. But flat out, man, there are going to be some people, and like I said before, I do think they are more likely to be the very traditional Christians and Jews as well, 0.53
00:13:45.520 who have been brought up with church doctrine rather than getting into the Bible for themselves,
00:13:53.560 reading the source texts for themselves. And yeah, I think that's the biggest issue.
00:14:00.460 The Bible says that my people perish for lack of knowledge and people rely on their pastors.
00:14:07.220 They rely on their Sunday school stuff. They rely on anything except sitting their butts 0.96
00:14:13.920 down in a chair and reading god's word for themselves and getting an understanding of it
00:14:19.300 and asking god to reveal himself to them personally through what they're reading you know and i i
00:14:26.840 think that's a that's a huge problem and for those people it will be a problem when somebody comes
00:14:31.720 around says you know we have evidence that mankind is not the only you know intelligence
00:14:37.740 higher intelligence in the universe. They're going to be like, well, God didn't say anything
00:14:43.580 about this in the Bible. God didn't create any other, you know, uh, being to, to rule planet
00:14:49.800 earth. And to that, I would be like, yep, that's true. He didn't create any other being to rule
00:14:54.040 planet earth, but it doesn't say anything else about the heavens. You know, there's, so there's
00:14:58.600 a lot of, of, um, issues that arise from tradition and from church doctrine, things that have arisen
00:15:07.140 over time that jesus never said moses never said you know none of none of the prophets ever said
00:15:13.520 there's a lot of extrapolation and personal interpretations which have been imposed onto
00:15:20.480 the text rather than letting the text interpret the text if you understand what i mean do you
00:15:26.720 think that that's done uh i agree with you you think it's done purposefully or do you think that
00:15:31.120 the modern church has just kind of slid into that over many years no i think it is a development that
00:15:39.160 that began um a long long time ago and i i think honestly that it is uh the result of some
00:15:50.360 you would say in like traditional church circles you'd say it's demonic
00:15:55.360 I would say it's probably some angelic, you know, fallen angel on orders from the main rebel dude began talking or whispering into the ears of certain theologians, and their interpretations of Scripture began to change.
00:16:19.520 And when it changed, those things became popular, and they became doctrine.
00:16:28.600 And for an example, on the Jewish side of things in the Middle Ages, you had this particular rabbi who today is considered one of the towering figures in Orthodox Judaism.
00:16:42.640 His name was Moses Maimonides, or he's also called Rambam.
00:16:48.200 well he was very steeped in greek rationalism and he got he he like that was the zeitgeist it was
00:16:59.100 like people were tired of having these supernatural explanations for everything and they wanted
00:17:05.060 basically to to have a more rational explanation and so if you couldn't see it touch it you know
00:17:13.580 hear it, whatever, it's not actually real. So then what he does is he began writing biblical
00:17:20.520 commentaries and he's taking a look at, uh, scriptures of, you know, like when, uh, Abraham
00:17:29.440 had the three guys who visited him, uh, at the Oak of Mamre, right? You have these two angels
00:17:36.040 and the Lord. Well, according to him, according to Rambam, like these kinds of things, they didn't
00:17:42.460 actually really happen it was a vision or it was a dream or it was something caught you know god
00:17:50.720 caused abraham to have this revelation inside his mind or it was all allegorical it didn't right
00:17:59.820 none of it actually really happened right and he began writing these kinds of things he was
00:18:06.540 majorly influential because he took these greek ideas about angels about the supernatural uh the
00:18:14.200 greek rationalist thought in particular and he began writing all of this stuff in hebrew so it
00:18:21.920 began to be like um he gave it a kind of legitimacy by taking these pagan ideas and then presenting
00:18:31.020 them to the jewish community in some in the language that they're familiar with and comfortable
00:18:37.880 with right then other certain other rabbis began saying some of the same things interestingly
00:18:46.860 though there was he had a major nemesis named nachmanides who was who called who basically said
00:18:53.960 that it was forbidden to believe anything that rambam wrote because it was so he recognized it
00:19:00.780 for what it was right it's like this is not that's not the right interpretation that's not what
00:19:05.920 the bible says i mean it dramatically changes fundamentally changes everything
00:19:11.020 absolutely how important this guy was and i'm realizing it now i was born in a hospital named
00:19:17.020 after him really yeah in brooklyn so he's still yeah i guess yeah rambam he'd be he was he was
00:19:23.780 declared a heretic during his own lifetime. And so it's super ironic that he went on to become
00:19:31.680 one of the most influential, uh, rabbis ever since the, since the middle ages. Well, around that same
00:19:41.060 time on the Christian side of things, some of the church fathers began doing the same thing.
00:19:46.360 people like thomas aquinas they began right in their writings they began saying some of the
00:19:53.500 exact same things that rambam was saying on the jewish side of things and so what i personally
00:19:59.600 think was going on is that there there was a spiritual influence there was a spiritual move
00:20:04.800 to begin obfuscating what scripture actually says and the lay people you know nobody goes around and
00:20:12.820 actually studies this stuff for themselves they're like well what does the commentary say
00:20:17.400 yeah and you know and so they'll go and they'll start reading the the church fathers or they'll
00:20:22.980 start going and reading the the jewish sages and instead of and they're don't get me wrong i do
00:20:30.960 think that there's value in in commentary on both the jewish side and on the christian side of
00:20:36.380 things. There were guys who did listen to God, and there were guys who had very logical
00:20:42.580 explanations for the things that they were commenting on within scripture. But not everybody
00:20:50.540 was like that. And there were guys who inserted particular theologies into the theological
00:21:00.320 stream of thought that was going on. And those things began to sway the, it was like a wind
00:21:09.860 that began to sway the opinions of the masses until you had these church leaders and synagogue
00:21:19.160 leaders who solidified into church doctrine particular ideas that are just flat out not
00:21:27.460 biblical whatsoever. And so today you have ideas like, uh, by the way, I go over this in my book.
00:21:35.160 I actually show like step, you know, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, step by step, by step, uh,
00:21:41.980 you know, church doctrinal statements across the board from the Catholic church to the Eastern
00:21:50.280 orthodox churches uh to the coptic churches the ethiopian church uh charismatic churches
00:21:58.200 protestant churches like tons and tons and the doctrinal statements across the board agree that
00:22:06.500 for example uh angels are completely incorporeal in nature yeah and they are without and not this
00:22:17.180 the second part is not across the board but it's it's in a lot of churches and seminaries the idea
00:22:22.860 that angels don't have free will but it's part of church doctrine in lots and lots of places
00:22:28.780 and those those two those two things right there are flat out contradicted in scripture itself
00:22:36.540 over and over and over again and i i go over that in the book as well and i basically lay out a case
00:22:42.380 for that and that's actually like really important it's important to understand where uh
00:22:49.740 tradition and doctrine actually does contradict scripture because what scripture provides is an
00:22:57.100 accurate picture of the reality that we all exist in that we were born into and what these church
00:23:05.100 doctrines and synagogue doctrines as well have done uh you know they they have changed things
00:23:14.060 to such a degree that we have in a a false view of the world that we live in in the universe that 0.72
00:23:21.420 we live in and so what i wanted to do is you know set out to correct some of that stuff how can you
00:23:27.340 fight a war how can you occupy yeah how can you stand firm and lift god you know lift high god's
00:23:33.100 holy standard if you're busy trying to do it with a worldview that is just you know you're
00:23:41.580 gonna have the enemy just standing there laughing at you yeah because you're not you're not effective
00:23:45.860 that's looking at the situation it's i don't want to attribute um malice right to these to
00:23:53.900 these church fathers or these these intellectuals who you know interpreted scripture that way i don't
00:23:57.940 think it's any one man's fault i i go more to what you were saying where there is this spirit
00:24:02.920 um that whispers in the ears of man and and it's it's actually quite clever because what ends up
00:24:07.720 happening is you strip the supernatural worldview entirely and you know we are uh in the west
00:24:15.040 in a materialistic paradigm with the sciences and you almost have cast the same spell over
00:24:23.460 the biblical narrative is this more materialistic view. And the world never stopped being
00:24:28.680 supernatural. In fact, what drew me to the Bible was supernatural experiences. And I would go out
00:24:34.100 and find testimony from other individuals who had supernatural experiences. And through that,
00:24:38.660 I was able to parse together this greater picture that pointed to the Bible, that pointed to
00:24:44.180 scripture. And the reason I say that it's so clever is because if you can do that, well,
00:24:49.240 it seems that we're in this time where we're going to reintroduce the
00:24:53.340 supernatural,
00:24:53.820 but you first had to decouple it from the biblical narrative in order to
00:24:58.560 cast this great illusion over people where once you reintroduce the
00:25:02.080 supernatural worldview,
00:25:04.200 you know,
00:25:04.540 in a,
00:25:04.980 in a really aggressive way,
00:25:06.780 if they're going to do disclosure or any of these things that are going to
00:25:09.300 come to pass,
00:25:09.880 or let's say you've got like we talked about earlier,
00:25:12.860 the Epstein files and,
00:25:14.020 and what's going on.
00:25:15.200 Are they worshiping Moloch?
00:25:16.720 And that's a little bit hard to decouple from the biblical narrative, right?
00:25:20.060 Because obviously you have Moloch in the Old Testament.
00:25:22.980 Yeah, mentioned directly.
00:25:24.060 So that's going to be a hard one for them to pull off.
00:25:26.420 And to me, these spirits that they're worshiping are directly connected to whatever we're going to get in disclosure.
00:25:33.360 But my point is, if you can decouple it, make that supernatural element absent in the biblical narrative, reintroduce the supernatural, people are not going to be able to bridge that gap.
00:25:45.040 i mean some will obviously but it's going to be very advantageous for the enemy uh to obscure
00:25:51.540 its origins and to give us something entirely different through the lens of sci-fi or whatever
00:25:56.660 this is a again i hate bringing up this this argument we had a debate with timothy alberino
00:26:01.740 recently and we got sidetracked uh with i guess the physical nature of angels like we we asked
00:26:09.000 him to define uh define a demon i think and that took 45 minutes yeah that was a whole thing but
00:26:14.560 But it ended up where you were talking about here with this materialistic view of what the prophets were seeing at the time, whether it's Ezekiel's wheel or maybe even he didn't discuss Abraham seeing the three the three angel God and the two angels.
00:26:26.880 I think we even got onto that idea of the angels and a sexual drive and whether or not that's even possible because they're non corporeal.
00:26:34.040 I forget exactly how that went.
00:26:35.520 But he was he was just saying that that's every time that that happens, that's purely allegorical.
00:26:39.520 allegorical and i was like yeah i don't adhere to that because i read the bible and i believe
00:26:45.280 what the bible says i don't pick and choose when there's allegory and for me i'm watching people
00:26:50.180 in modern time have supernatural experiences that i do not believe are allegorical in any way shape
00:26:56.620 or form and i believe there's biblical context for those experiences yeah so we had that that
00:27:03.060 bit of like a tug with him but it does make sense because then he went on to explain that there was
00:27:08.280 an example that he gave which was interesting and it came from a jewish rabbi uh discussing miraz
00:27:14.020 oh the yeah yeah okay so yeah his interpretation from uh this this rabbi was that miraz was a
00:27:22.100 planet and the planet decided to remain neutral in a battle against israel but the commentaries
00:27:28.900 that i've read and from what i understand it seems like miraz is a place and they just remain
00:27:33.240 neutral and god was like yeah neutrality yeah yeah okay so that there's actually two two things
00:27:41.300 here all right um first of all i i'm not i'm not exactly familiar with the the conversation that
00:27:48.220 you guys had with timothy albarino but he is right there is a rabbinic precedent for the idea
00:27:57.140 that mirage is either a planet or a star system okay and that is inhabited by
00:28:05.380 intelligent beings that are not human okay and the truth like the the second thing is that there is
00:28:15.960 also commentary that makes mirage just a you know there's debate over whether mirage is
00:28:24.660 uh a physical location somewhere in the levant somewhere probably around where i live um
00:28:31.620 with like near the quichon river um there's also debate about whether or not so basically it was
00:28:40.160 like uh it could have been a village a a like a town or whatever where its citizens did not come
00:28:48.240 to the aid of the Lord in battle. Um, the problem with that view is that there is zero
00:28:56.300 archeological evidence for this particular, if Meraz was a town within one of Israel's locations,
00:29:07.280 nobody has ever found it, right? And there's no, found no, uh, mentions of it, nothing.
00:29:14.280 it's like a ghost on the other hand the uh there's a ton of commentary surrounding the idea
00:29:24.400 that this was a planet or a star system there's stuff written about it in the talmud there's
00:29:32.200 stuff written about it in commentary and i believe there's also i don't quote me on this one but i
00:29:38.460 also think there's some stuff about it in mystical texts as as well yeah the rabbi he referred to
00:29:44.880 was uh like uh he was into jewish mysticism i believe he said kabbalah might be talking about
00:29:50.660 aria kaplan maybe rabbi aria kaplan i'll get back to you on i don't want to butcher the name
00:29:56.500 okay no no worries on that but the truth is that there there are multiple interpretations for
00:30:04.140 uh what miraz is or where miraz might happen to be what that reference is talking about
00:30:11.780 in the book of judges um and also within in the prophets there's references back to
00:30:19.100 the book of judges um which is like the whole reference it talks about how the stars fought
00:30:25.700 in their course uh and the stars fought from heaven and that's within the song of deborah
00:30:33.120 Um, so there, there are hints that there is, you know, potentially other inhabited stars somewhere in our 3d universe that we all know and love.
00:30:46.980 And there are multiple Jewish organizations today that I actually talk about them in my book as well. Some of them are Aish.com. Chabad talks about it. So there's a few different places where you can get more information about that concept.
00:31:11.160 do i say that this is like hands down for sure there's you know aliens around a star named
00:31:17.160 mirage no because i like it everything that that uh is there is that that's within scripture
00:31:25.700 um those are potential hints but there's there's like to me you would you'd have to have
00:31:34.160 more evidence to be able to concretely say one way or the other but i do say i do think that
00:31:41.940 there is you know i think it's there's enough there that's worth another like some deeper
00:31:49.040 exploration like personally i would love to sorry go ahead no because i'm just my hold up with the
00:31:56.380 the idea that we were going back and forth was not necessarily that it's a planet or anything
00:32:00.860 like that. I think it's, even if it is, maybe it's like kind of a King of Tyre idea where it is a
00:32:06.940 planet, it is a place, and it's like an example used to talk about neutrality between God when
00:32:12.160 he's at war. I was just wondering if like that idea of taking interpretations from mystical text
00:32:19.880 or extra biblical text, then leads you down the road to looking at angels as being allegorical.
00:32:26.560 You see that kind of like that, that trade off?
00:32:30.920 No, for me, I don't, I don't see angels as allegorical at all.
00:32:34.760 They're like that.
00:32:36.200 That's actually something very interesting is that there are particular streams of Christianity as well as Judaism that are, I hate to say this because it makes me sound political, but they're most of the people who tend to view these, these kinds of things as super allegorical.
00:32:55.860 metaphorical blah blah blah and not actual literal beings um they tend to be on the super left end
00:33:05.860 of the political spectrum and are you know you have uh like certain progressive christian
00:33:15.220 churches these days unitarian churches there's like a lot of these kinds of things that that
00:33:21.480 deny, um, the, the corporeality of angels, but also of like tons of other things, you know,
00:33:29.260 like miracles and that kind of thing. Um, and on the Jewish side, the reform movement in the United
00:33:34.500 States and the UK, uh, and in Germany, they are complete. It's basically like the whole thing, 0.93
00:33:42.360 the whole Bible, everything is just there to help you lead a good moral, ethical life. And that's
00:33:48.860 it it's just a bunch of cultural you know cultural stories i've been telling david the last couple of
00:33:55.320 weeks and don't worry about getting political this is like a conspiracy show or whatever but
00:33:59.520 there is an interesting correlation between right wing left wing um christian even like pagan ideas
00:34:06.840 and and you can almost extrapolate from where you land on the political spectrum maybe not even
00:34:12.560 democrat or republican or whatever you want to call it but progressive versus conservative
00:34:15.860 it does lean toward certain ideologies, and they're actually quite predictable. So what
00:34:20.680 you're saying is spot on. I don't know why. And it's not for me to make the assumption why,
00:34:27.420 but I do know that. Well, it does seem that if you can loosen up the Bible to be mostly
00:34:31.900 allegorical, then you can bend the rules. Yeah, you can make it mean whatever you want it to mean,
00:34:38.060 basically. Yeah. And that's where you get, you know, phenomenon like, you know, I'm sure it's
00:34:44.180 out there i'm not making a particular example but like an all trans church or something you know 0.83
00:34:48.660 insane like that these things do exist statistically statistically it's got to exist at some point so
00:34:54.120 um and you see these videos all the time uh of of the most insane sort of ideas i forget
00:35:01.080 one of them i just brought an nasb bible because i don't read what's nasb uh new american standard
00:35:08.240 it's supposed to be like the closest word for word rather than king james yep that is actually
00:35:13.700 what I quote almost, almost exclusively in, in my book, precisely for that, for that reason.
00:35:20.240 You doing the 95 or the 2020?
00:35:22.980 95.
00:35:24.060 Okay. That's the one I brought accidentally. So good. I was reading through it and I was like,
00:35:28.760 this one seems like, you know, versus the NIV, it's, it's easy to read. And the King James is a
00:35:32.880 little bit, it could get a little poetic, but this one seemed more, it seemed to resonate with me
00:35:39.940 but yeah reading the bible and understanding what it says not just scripture by scripture because
00:35:43.980 i could open up a you know the bible right now and read one scripture and it could mean
00:35:48.220 15 things but it's like well what was the context what was said before and after and what were the
00:35:53.460 the authors actually trying to say to the time period people that they were writing it to
00:35:57.960 it's absolutely absolutely so good good job man we're trying we're trying well i want to i want
00:36:05.300 to ask you something because of a tweet that i saw of yours um not too long ago and i might be
00:36:11.260 misremembering it but it was this i think it was on the topic of of jesus's uh jewishness
00:36:19.200 and what i've recognized recently is this phenomenon that i've been watching from a 0.98
00:36:25.300 distance and initially i was in it and so so what i mean by that is um the jews are a hot button
00:36:33.260 issue. Suddenly the crimes of Israel or the Jews are on full display and everyone is acting as if
00:36:41.980 this is a new thing. Whereas biblically speaking, you know, there's no shortage of the Jews going 1.00
00:36:48.440 towards the Lord and then going towards paganism or, you know, adhering to God's will and then 0.99
00:36:54.940 disappointing God. And I think that's really the story of humanity. But it took me a little while
00:37:00.040 to get there, I was on this sort of train for a little bit where I'm going, wait a second,
00:37:04.520 they're doing what? They're controlling this. What about Israel and the disproportionate
00:37:08.480 representation in American government, all these things? And then I pulled back. And the reason I
00:37:12.860 pulled back is because I saw all of these masses suddenly moving in that direction. I said, no,
00:37:17.520 this doesn't feel organic. And I thought to myself, why would this be happening? Why would
00:37:22.680 this be happening? And then I saw a very interesting phenomenon take place in the last
00:37:26.860 year let's say and that is well now jesus since he is jewish right since he is in the line of judah 0.74
00:37:37.900 um and since he is called rabbi therefore this entire thing is a psychological operation
00:37:46.060 interesting right because jesus is completely inseparable from his jewish heritage as a human
00:37:51.360 being so it's like now these people that really have this gripe against jews either have to make
00:37:57.460 him irish or yeah uh yeah i know but you have to do something with it you have to or you have to
00:38:04.280 or the even worse right they just they discard completely exactly right so you either change
00:38:10.400 who jesus christ is which then throws the whole bible out or you you go in rebellion against him 0.69
00:38:16.360 because therefore he is part of this the machination of the great jewish psyop and i went 0.83
00:38:23.060 oh my god is that the is that one of the points is that the main i mean i can't see a greater 0.75
00:38:28.440 um sort of deception that that would serve than to have people fall away from jesus christ
00:38:38.240 because you know because he is jewish or to change him which is effectively the same thing right that
00:38:46.040 as antichrist to have any one other than uh jesus of the line of judah of the house of david the son
00:38:51.980 of the living god who came and died for our sins and overcame death like anybody other than that
00:38:56.600 guy is a total miss and therefore is antichrist um are you seeing this or are we being hyperbolic
00:39:03.320 no i don't think you're being hyperbolic but i also don't think that it's something strange
00:39:08.200 i think the bible says this kind of thing is going to happen in the last days you know the
00:39:15.260 the world is going to turn against Israel at some point, everybody. And the nations are going to
00:39:22.240 come up against Israel. And Israel has got to learn that its only hope is the Lord. You know,
00:39:32.540 leaning on America is exactly the same. And I don't intend to insult anyone. I like, I believe
00:39:39.620 America has been Israel's greatest ally since it was reestablished in 1948. Hands down. But
00:39:48.560 leaning on America is exactly the same thing as when Israel leaned on Egypt. In one of the 0.82
00:39:57.160 prophets, it says that, you know, you're leaning on Egypt, trusting in Egypt's strength, but Egypt 0.79
00:40:04.100 is a reed that's going to break under your weight when you lean on him and when he breaks it's going 0.77
00:40:11.300 to wound you you know and the lord alone is supposed to be our king our salvation our shield 0.73
00:40:23.220 and most most israelis um don't understand that they like you got all the tradition and and
00:40:33.380 everything, but, and there don't, don't get me wrong. There are some who do get it, but there's
00:40:39.660 a lot, most and most don't. Most people right now see Donald Trump as like this, almost a messianic
00:40:48.060 figure. And there I like, I've, I've talked to, um, my family back in some of my family who still
00:40:56.540 live in the states and i was like man you didn't see what i saw in 2016 there were billboards in
00:41:04.760 jerusalem that had trump plastered all over it with the words in hebrew israel welcomes the man
00:41:11.580 of peace there was that song the super trump song like yeah and there and there there are tons of
00:41:21.360 of people who see um you know what what trump has done what america has done in helping us
00:41:30.300 against some pretty bad odds uh from the countries surrounding us and they're like he man he's you
00:41:40.200 know he he's king cyrus who by the way is he's like the reincarnated king cyrus kind of thing
00:41:47.620 He has the spirit of King Cyrus, who was a Persian king who allowed the Jews to move back from Persia to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem, right, and let him come back to the land of Israel.
00:42:02.640 I have that commemorative gold coin with Trump on one side and King Cyrus on the other.
00:42:07.140 Oh, wow. Okay.
00:42:08.760 Somebody sent it to us, and I was like, this is actually really great.
00:42:11.480 that's pretty cool but like uh that you know king cyrus is the only non-jew in scripture
00:42:18.660 who is called a messiah who is called the lord's anointed and people look at donald trump
00:42:27.500 and they they have the same attitude about him and right now people are pretty ticked off because
00:42:34.920 they were like we should have gone in and we should have ended the you know the iranian regime
00:42:40.740 And because we didn't do that, we lost. And I that's honestly the way I see things right now, too. It's possible Trump will pull something off, you know, after the midterms in America and there will be some like really amazing deal. 0.91
00:42:56.460 who knows but the the the mat the fact of the matter is that at some point i think you know 0.54
00:43:05.360 even america is going to turn its back on israel and israel will have to go it alone
00:43:10.500 and some really bad stuff might end up happening before people turn and you know say blessed is
00:43:21.620 who comes in the name of the lord and because when that happens the the real messiah is gonna come
00:43:28.320 and all israel and the rest of the planet that has put its trust in him they're gonna everybody
00:43:34.320 that that's when salvation actually happens right that's when the redemption actually occurs
00:43:41.140 and right now israel doesn't recognize that so yeah it's it's painful man we were we were just
00:43:50.180 reading well i was reading through that also uh the uh the gen in genesis uh story of joseph where
00:43:56.000 his brothers don't recognize him yeah you want to tell that like that allegory it's just oh it was
00:44:01.080 an interesting thing i'm sure people have addressed this before but i don't i don't
00:44:04.960 make a habit of looking at scriptural scholars or or anybody yet you know my walk is is new i guess
00:44:13.240 you could say in in the amount of years that i've been here i guess yeah i can't i'll tell you this
00:44:17.320 before you tell that story but like i've been a christian my whole life i kind of came away from
00:44:21.980 uh the church and christianity because it just didn't make sense but honestly the the nephilim
00:44:26.880 stuff the supernatural stuff brought me back into it because it made it more uh understandable and
00:44:31.360 real especially the old testament and david wasn't a christian at all so the last three years that
00:44:37.100 we've been doing this show it's been like a rapid developmental growth and uh it's like a hyper
00:44:42.840 crash course a crash course yeah yeah yeah because because we decided or not that we made the conscious
00:44:48.520 decision to do it but what ended up happening because of this show is that well our first
00:44:52.260 episode right we had a guy coming on saying that the bible is just like a zoroastrological yeah and
00:44:58.600 it's like christ consciousness the 33 vertebrae christos all that and it was a fun episode but
00:45:03.720 we had a decision right there we were like okay uh we can go this way we can go that way and i was
00:45:08.820 Like, I don't really like what that guy said.
00:45:10.800 So let's go the other way.
00:45:12.600 Yeah, for me too, I had so much to learn.
00:45:14.700 I wasn't ready to just say, okay, it's allegorical.
00:45:17.400 It's just about the stars. 0.95
00:45:18.300 Just because of one episode would have been foolish.
00:45:20.160 I think it is about the stars too, but it's everything.
00:45:22.940 That's the nature of the reality that we inhabit is God's word is, you know, in a lot more places than just this book.
00:45:30.440 But, you know, as soon as you start reducing it in any way, shape or form.
00:45:33.820 Can I say just one thing to go back to what we were talking about?
00:45:38.820 in terms of this movement of, of even, you know,
00:45:43.180 a lot of Christians right now are questioning whether they should be supporters
00:45:46.320 of Israel and blah, blah, blah, and that sort of thing right now.
00:45:50.500 And one of the things, and I'm not going to argue that you should be, I mean,
00:45:54.680 I, I personally am, I consider myself a Zionist, uh, but the,
00:46:00.220 the bottom line, okay. 0.81
00:46:03.360 Whether you think Israel is controlled by fake Jews, Khazarians, any of those kinds of things, or Jews control the banks, or the Jews control this government or that, every government on planet Earth, it doesn't matter.
00:46:22.220 What matters is what Jesus did, and every single one of us should be focusing on that.
00:46:29.540 And you should also be remembering that as believers, there's not any other human on this planet that we are supposed to be considering our blood enemy.
00:46:43.140 We wrestle not against flesh and blood.
00:46:47.680 There's against principalities and powers and against the rulers of this present darkness.
00:46:54.080 And there's not just that, but Jesus died for everybody.
00:46:58.640 He died for the Khazarians. So if I'm a Khazarian and I don't know it and I'm just totally deceived, who cares? He is the reason any of us have access to the throne of God. And that's the bottom line. He should be our focus. 0.93
00:47:21.620 right we shouldn't be focusing on who we think is doing us wrong by the way pray for your enemies
00:47:28.620 you know turn the other cheek do good to them who despitefully use you this kind of thing even if
00:47:35.260 you think the jews are your enemies you should be praying for them and well you know brings them to
00:47:43.080 himself the problem in not being rooted in scripture and thinking the jews are your enemy
00:47:48.540 is like okay go ahead then play that out where does that go what what are you gonna do they're 0.92
00:47:53.560 the root of all the evil and they're okay so what are you gonna do next because that's that's the
00:47:57.500 question that nobody wants to ask themselves and the other thing that i've realized is you know 0.96
00:48:01.740 when it comes to this idea of like blessing israel um i don't uh i'm not a political person you know
00:48:08.400 i i never have been uh and i'm not going to uh fund you know willingly i mean i went over my
00:48:15.960 tax dollars or anything but i'm not going to say like the government of israel can do no wrong and
00:48:19.440 benjamin netanyahu is infallible and yada yada yada like i pray i don't think anybody should
00:48:25.040 say that i mean i don't say that i i pray i live here um you know everybody this is blank it doesn't
00:48:32.280 matter if it's israel anybody i pray that they realize that jesus christ is the way the truth
00:48:37.400 and the life and that they come into a relationship with the one true god and like that's that to me
00:48:43.640 that is that's the definition of a blessing right to curse you would be to say i hope this happens
00:48:50.440 to you or that happens to you or the government of israel or the people of israel like no no
00:48:54.100 i pray that everybody finds that jesus christ is the truth and is the son of god and is the way
00:49:02.280 to salvation and that's the same thing for anybody that's in israel it's the same thing for anybody
00:49:06.340 who calls himself a jew you know whether or not it's messianic jews who believe that jesus is the
00:49:12.620 way and they're you know out trying to preach the gospel to uh the ones who don't but that's 0.54
00:49:17.480 that's like you know when they say to bless israel like that's the ultimate blessing is that
00:49:21.660 not is that not the ultimate blessing is for you to come into a relationship with the one true god
00:49:27.480 like that's you know like you were saying i mean that's that solves a lot of these problems it
00:49:31.600 solves all the problems it solves all the problems so i think i think there there is there is like a
00:49:36.460 caveat to that, I think, because there's people like John Calvin, for example, who, you know,
00:49:43.380 that, excuse me, not John Calvin, Martin Luther, who was, when he was young, he was very into,
00:49:52.840 you know, missionizing the Jewish community. And he was very, his early writings were very
00:50:01.200 loving towards the jews and and this sort of thing but when many jews you know rebuffed him
00:50:08.320 and that sort of thing he became extremely angry and bitter and his later writings were so vitriolic
00:50:16.360 that the nazis ended up using them as part of their propaganda uh when they came to power
00:50:21.980 and so you have i i think that there's a danger in thinking that uh you know missionizing jews
00:50:31.700 is the only thing that we got to do and then when jesus saves them everything's going to be hunky
00:50:35.580 dory the truth is most jews are not going to until god pulls right the veil away from their eyes and 0.52
00:50:44.000 that's something that he has to do it's not something that any one of us can you know it's 0.99
00:50:51.080 it's not within our power and the truth is it's not within the power of any of us to to actually
00:50:56.940 save any other person jew or non-jew that's up to god himself and so i i just think that's one
00:51:03.560 clarifying well that's like you plan to see but god determines whether or not it grows can you
00:51:08.200 yeah so the story of joseph is what you're saying where when when you were reading it to us i was
00:51:13.760 like man this is like an old testament story that we know is read by jews but they miss it and it's 0.53
00:51:18.560 Like it's a shadow of Christ. 0.54
00:51:20.220 This idea that that Joseph, you know, when he when his father, when Jacob thinks or when Israel thinks that he is dead because his brothers sell him into slavery and they, you know, they bring back his robes and they're covered in goat's blood.
00:51:37.300 And so he's under the impression that his son is dead. And it's fascinating because when they meet Joseph again, all those years later in Egypt, much like Jesus, they didn't like the disciples didn't recognize Jesus.
00:51:50.920 they didn't recognize their own brother they didn't recognize uh joseph and when they start
00:51:59.540 to you know when they finally do realize it's him when he reveals himself to them
00:52:03.500 and you know they're all wrought with emotion because of this thing that they
00:52:08.300 they've done to him he tells them that they did not do this thing that that god allowed this thing
00:52:16.660 he made this thing happen so that joseph could go ahead into egypt and and make the path for his
00:52:23.680 family and which is very similar to jesus christ saying no man well jesus comes out of egypt as
00:52:29.800 well it's it's it's just bizarre there's so many shades and shadows of this yeah it's like how do
00:52:34.220 you continue how do you miss this but there has to be a veil but when jesus says no man takes my
00:52:39.880 life i give it willingly in accordance with the father you know to to do what to make a path a
00:52:45.880 narrow path for his family for for us who are right onto the vine for everybody so it's like
00:52:50.760 it's the same exact not the same exact thing but it's so i somebody even brought to my attention
00:52:55.680 that when joseph is is imprisoned um that he is in there with the cup bearer and a baker right the
00:53:03.860 wine and the bread which is foreshadowing of of two of jesus's so it's like there is uh you know
00:53:11.740 there's prophecy that's obviously pointing to christ but then there's prophecy that's not so
00:53:16.940 obviously pointing to christ in fact i don't know if you would call that prophecy is a foreshadowing
00:53:21.760 a prophecy i don't think it's a picture i think it's a it's a it is definitely a picture of uh
00:53:29.120 something that's mirrored right yeah and there's things there are uh historical events that
00:53:36.620 do get mirrored yeah throughout scripture and i i'm not exactly sure what you would call that
00:53:44.280 either but i do think it's a very fascinating sort of thing it's incredible i mean i i'm sitting
00:53:50.500 there reading that and i'm like oh my god like that's you could read that and it goes right
00:53:55.520 over your and i'm sure people have picked that out before um but there's so many people contributing
00:54:00.380 to the conversation there's so much that you could miss at any given time but yeah it was
00:54:04.040 directly foreshadowing uh the coming of christ and everything that christ was going to do you
00:54:09.060 know preparing the way for his family and and the bread and the wine and and not being recognized by
00:54:14.700 the disciples like it was and and in some ways i mean how long is the story of joseph really
00:54:20.280 it's a a couple of few chapters yeah it's very short and um so you know in the grand scheme of
00:54:28.960 things such a short story about such an important moment and that's what god saw fit to preserve
00:54:35.620 um that you know that chunk within those chapters that's hugely important
00:54:39.940 i agree it's just very interesting
00:54:44.640 so i want to um i want to move the conversation back to uh back to your your books um okay
00:54:58.260 And we were talking about this, this idea of the shadow of Goliath, and how it is the shadow of so many things that we're currently experiencing, right? The echoes, maybe, when you hear, you know, and I know these are a bit unfounded, it's unproven.
00:55:18.040 But not long ago, we had this moment, a couple of weeks, where suddenly the internet is erupting with this sentiment of hybrid programs taking place deep underground, right?
00:55:34.260 So Matt Gaetz famously brings it up, and then I believe Anna Paulina Luna goes on to expand on it.
00:55:44.240 She is one of the main characters that are moving the ball along down the field when it comes to disclosure.
00:55:51.480 But that idea of hybridization programs in deep underground military bases, once again, is something that the average person might not connect to Scripture.
00:56:05.880 But in my opinion, what else is a Nephilim if not a hybrid?
00:56:13.520 And so I think that that hybridization element is biblical and has been a constant and is now reemerging under the guise of alien phenomenon.
00:56:26.840 What do you make of it?
00:56:28.080 Well, I think, first of all, I think we should back up just a little bit because there are so many people out there who have this idea that when there is when there is disclosure, that whoever these aliens are, the vast majority of them anyway, are benevolent.
00:56:50.500 there are space brothers they are uh you know they just want us to ascend you know and this
00:56:57.680 kind of thing and it it totally flies in the face it's like people for whatever reason
00:57:06.320 completely ignore um things like the idea of these women who are being forcibly bred
00:57:15.560 underground and deep underground bases um for the purposes of uh you know creating some hybrid 1.00
00:57:23.400 species um first of all that's rape if that's actually happening right assault you know and
00:57:29.640 all the people who have been abducted the hundreds of thousands of people who claim to have been
00:57:34.260 abducted throughout the last 50 years alone to me that's that's not that's not benevolent that is
00:57:44.320 somebody else treating you like you're a lab rat or treating you like, uh, they, they don't have
00:57:49.940 any respect for your autonomy, for your agency, for your, uh, free will, you know, they, they are,
00:57:58.480 uh, that, that's, that is an act of violence against our species. Right. And it's something
00:58:06.260 that if any one of us did it, uh, we would be incarcerated and then put, you know, taken to
00:58:13.980 court and judged. Um, so I don't like, I don't think any of that is, is, um, of, of these
00:58:22.980 particular experiences or beings who are conducting these kinds of things. I don't think there's
00:58:29.000 anything good. Yeah. That's part of that. You know, I don't think that they have any moral
00:58:34.900 lessons to teach us if they are actively engaged in these kinds of things. Um, but in terms of
00:58:42.320 specifically the Matt Gaetz thing. Uh, I watched, uh, his, his, uh, the video where he was talking
00:58:50.160 about that. And one of the interesting things that I noticed is that, you know, there's this
00:58:56.280 guy who apparently comes into his offices or whatever, and he's wearing an American army
00:59:03.000 uniform and he does this whistleblowing thing. But, you know, and whether, you know, Matt Gaetz
00:59:10.160 is protecting the guy the dude's uh you know identity to you know so that he doesn't you know
00:59:16.960 accidentally commit suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head four times um you know
00:59:22.540 if if uh if that's what was going on great but the issue to me with that is that there is
00:59:32.540 you got you got this guy who was a former representative who's had kind of a shady
00:59:40.220 stuff surrounding him before he he got you know before he left office etc and now he's trying to
00:59:50.780 be back in the news and create make himself more relevant i don't know if that's what's going what
00:59:55.540 was going on either, but it seems possible to me. Um, the whole thing is that there's no evidence
01:00:03.660 for it's just hearsay, right? You have some guy that's not even named who comes into his office,
01:00:09.920 who he says is a whistleblower. So it's all like second or third hand testimony. Yeah. Right. And
01:00:18.580 to me, if you don't have some kind of primary source, like what does the Bible say? Let,
01:00:23.760 let a thing be established in the mouths of two or more witnesses and these are not anonymous
01:00:28.560 witnesses okay they're they're people who are like i'm staking my reputation on it this happened
01:00:34.080 right um so for me that particular thing about the government being involved in hybrid breeding
01:00:44.240 programs first of all again the whoever the aliens are they're douchebags and second of all if our 0.77
01:00:52.320 government is complicit in that who are they because they're an enemy of the state yeah they're 0.84
01:00:57.720 an enemy of the american people right um those those would be two great questions that that i
01:01:04.560 would have which aliens are involved and which government entities are involved do which
01:01:11.020 individuals do you know you know is there any information on that and if there is maybe there
01:01:17.400 should be people who are really investigating that and if there's not why not you know um
01:01:24.640 but for again for me because there's not any like primary sources i tend to be like okay
01:01:31.560 we'll set that on the shelf until there is something more that corroborates that i think
01:01:38.200 that there is way more uh evidence for the fact that people have just been abducted taken on to
01:01:47.140 various craft and that sort of thing because there is hundreds of thousands of people who have
01:01:52.240 made that claim so unless you think hundreds of thousands of people across all socioeconomic
01:01:58.640 lines all demographics um and geographic regions from around the world it's not just in america
01:02:04.800 if you think that all of that is you know a mass hallucination um or you know a bit of bad mustard
01:02:14.000 somebody ate i just you know it really i think there's more evidence for something like that
01:02:19.600 than there is for a specific claim like matt gates's at this point yeah the problem with these
01:02:27.780 these kind of claims is that they border that line of like what we want to hear sure versus
01:02:34.680 what the actual truth is so like yeah there is there is possibly a genetic breeding program
01:02:40.120 going on with aliens that are abducting people we know that they're doing a lot of weird stuff
01:02:43.980 with men's semen and anuses and the black eye children yeah i mean yeah well no you know back
01:02:50.780 in the 90s there was back in the 90s there was a whistleblower for a an air force serviceman named
01:02:56.440 james hall james charles james hall something like that and he was really uh and i talk i talk
01:03:06.540 about him in my book but he he brought up this alien species which some have said is maybe like
01:03:13.720 a subspecies of the nordics or you know maybe there's some other species altogether but they're
01:03:18.300 similar in appearance and they're called the tall whites right and they were uh supposedly in the
01:03:24.960 americas before the euro americans called you know colonialists came over um and they set up shop in
01:03:34.400 nevada and there may be the pilots etc of the tic-tac um craft or maybe the yeah you know that
01:03:44.720 sort of thing and one of the things that i kind of thought of is because they a very interesting
01:03:52.220 thing is that if you look at any like specifically like reptilian aliens or nordics um not only do
01:03:59.860 people claim that they are from either, you know, like the, the, uh, Draco star system or from the
01:04:07.260 Pleiades, um, this kind of thing, but you go to new age sources and they, these same beings are
01:04:15.480 also interdimensional. So you have these extraterrestrials who are from a different
01:04:22.280 star system who won't, Oh, by the way, they just also happen to be interdimensional and they occupy 0.93
01:04:27.280 both spaces at the same time but that's not the case with the tall whites you don't have any kind
01:04:31.900 of uh lore surrounding them that says they're interdimensional it's like they're stuck in this
01:04:39.740 3d space just like we are and one of the things that i was thinking about and this is just pure
01:04:45.400 speculation on my part but if there is like a hybrid you know uh program that's going on what
01:04:54.200 if they're not from somewhere else what if they're from right here what if the tall whites actually
01:05:00.200 are a hybrid species between us and maybe the nordics or you know something like that um because
01:05:10.420 they again they don't first of all they don't act like us but they have kids and according to this
01:05:19.280 whistleblower you know that he saw them men women or you know male female and little kid
01:05:27.340 tall whites right so if they have biology similar enough to us uh to us um you know
01:05:37.140 where they got to get down and jiggy with it to have kids um that that doesn't sound like at least
01:05:43.460 the traditional um ideas of an angelic species anyway right so i have some other thoughts on
01:05:53.900 that but in bottom line is either they could be uh an extraterrestrial species like maybe they
01:06:02.580 could be from mirage who knows or they could be a hybrid species and they are actually from earth
01:06:08.700 just like we are so what do you think about the idea that it's it's been so long that there would
01:06:16.440 have been a you know some measure of success when it comes to diversifying the species so if the
01:06:23.680 name of the game is just hybridization well then you've got all the technology that you need you've
01:06:30.900 had all the uh the the experience beforehand and to me a lot of and it is speculative it's not
01:06:40.140 strictly biblical speaking um but when you get into this idea of what the earth was like before
01:06:47.020 the flood and and all the potentially different species that inhabited it if you look at all the
01:06:52.020 different pantheons of uh different pagan mythoses they're filled with all sorts of creatures
01:06:59.360 and i just wonder if maybe under cover of darkness the the species that you know are non-human
01:07:09.120 that are i would label them as demonic you know unless it's an angel of the lord coming to you
01:07:14.840 that's identifying itself as such um it seems that over and over again these other experiences
01:07:21.340 they're like inherently deceptive they're spreading them new age uh gnostic gospels
01:07:26.500 they're giving them predictions and their abduction experiences about raping them they're 0.55
01:07:31.540 raping them that's a huge one taking them against their will telling them about calamities that are
01:07:36.100 going to come at this date that never come to pass i mean since the 70s 90s yeah bled so once
01:07:42.540 again yeah there's so many of these things um that i i just can't help but wonder if you gotta ask
01:07:49.720 why why you know the the aliens that are channeled etc why why are they so concerned with our
01:07:57.740 spiritual evolution you know it's a bit it's a good question why and how does anybody know that
01:08:04.360 these beings that they are channeling are who they say they are what's what is your litmus test you
01:08:10.420 know yeah these people don't have one i mean i don't think that people are routinely testing
01:08:15.820 these spirits in the name of the lord you know who do you say that jesus christ is anything other
01:08:19.680 than the living god uh the son of the living god is is going to be bunk because they do have
01:08:25.740 something to impart well jesus is real um but is you know an ascended master jesus is real but he
01:08:33.140 is a pleiadian can i can i ask you a question so for uh people for for jewish people that that
01:08:41.080 follow Judaism how do they how do they perceive aliens how do they even perceive demons in a way
01:08:48.660 because in the Old Testament demons are never really manifest in the New Testament they manifest
01:08:55.960 and then they get kicked out a lot of in a lot of the stories but in the Old Testament they're kind
01:09:00.900 of behind the scenes like it's mentioned but we never really get witness of it so how do they
01:09:07.920 how do they view that and then how would they view aliens today well i think first of all there's two
01:09:15.600 different categories okay that you're you're talking about the aliens too in in jewish thought
01:09:20.360 they're they're not demons okay i don't think that they're that they're demons either um and
01:09:26.040 there's very specific reasons for that demons according to jewish literature uh not just the
01:09:35.660 hebrew scriptures but the like second temple literature especially um you have first of all
01:09:42.460 there you you have the scripture itself from genesis 6 right where the talks about the nephilim
01:09:49.580 and that sort of thing then you have the enochic literature which greatly expands on that story
01:09:56.060 then you have jewish commentary and you have uh midrashim which are also they're like a way of
01:10:02.620 interpreting scripture that also expands and like provides an a like a deeper view
01:10:10.780 and all of these have references to um the nephilim and where evil spirits and
01:10:22.140 demons actually came from there they according to that literature demons are the disembodied spirits
01:10:30.060 of the dead nephilim okay they they were not they didn't go to heaven they've never been to heaven
01:10:37.260 and in the new testament when when you know jesus kicks out the legion and he sends them into the 0.69
01:10:43.740 pigs what what did they say to him did you come to to torment us before the time and then they beg
01:10:50.460 him not to send them into the abyss and they said and like so he you know they asked to go into the
01:10:57.660 the herd of pigs. And he's like, all right, he basically has, he kind of like has a little bit
01:11:01.800 of mercy on them actually. And you're like, he's like, okay, going to the pigs, which really is 0.89
01:11:08.420 an interesting thing because where they were in Israel at the time was near the, I believe the 0.98
01:11:15.060 Eastern side of the sea of Galilee, which was going in towards an area where a lot of non-Jews
01:11:23.220 lived. And the Jews who lived in that area were doing the same things as the non-Jews. They were 0.92
01:11:29.720 farming pigs, which is, was not kosher and was against, basically against the law of the land.
01:11:40.080 So when he, you know, when he sent the demons into the pigs and the pigs rushed off the cliff
01:11:46.740 and they drowned themselves in the Sea of Galilee, he kind of like did two things. Number one, he kind
01:11:53.040 of cleansed the land of something that was considered uh an abomination and not just the
01:12:00.140 demons but like physically the pigs the guys who were farming them were doing something illegal so
01:12:04.780 he got rid of them and that's why all the people in the town were like go away they were pissed
01:12:11.200 off at him because you know he just ruined half of their livelihood by sending a funny idea to be
01:12:19.300 like well i put the demons in the pigs and the pigs ran off the cliff so it's interesting
01:12:24.260 i know i don't know the veracity of this but i i have some uh thoughts on why that was a a law in
01:12:33.120 the first place because like if you do eat under under prepared pig there's a risk of trichinosis
01:12:38.780 or different types of parasites that you can get and i i think that parasites in your stomach oh
01:12:44.680 can influence your brain your thoughts and that is like almost a form of demonization i would go a
01:12:50.320 step further it's probably gonna sound crazy but i've come to this conclusion that i think parasites
01:12:55.220 are like a biological conduit for uh demonic possession or oppression like they somehow
01:13:00.320 facilitate the process on a biological uh uh level only because the correlation it comes up you know
01:13:09.740 we get into a lot of testimony um when it comes to supernatural experiences and such uh we have
01:13:15.780 them on the show i make a great habit of listening to them by this point it's been thousands of hours
01:13:21.240 uh that i've been exposed to in one shape or another and the correlation between parasites
01:13:26.840 and demonic oppression or possession comes up constantly then there's some relationship there
01:13:34.340 And I don't think that it at all reduces what a demonic encounter or what a demonic possession is.
01:13:42.460 I don't think that it reduces it to strictly some biological function that is maybe part of a series of hallucinations.
01:13:50.380 That's not at all what I'm saying.
01:13:51.780 But I am saying there is some coupling there that is very interesting.
01:13:58.500 In fact, we have a company that we used to work with in the past.
01:14:03.080 We still do work with them.
01:14:04.340 uh is it's a parasite company purge store and the owners i've had discussions with the owners
01:14:09.040 and they're right there and they've actually said it uh oh yeah we have some of their stuff here
01:14:12.440 uh they've actually said it to me uh i said i wonder if there's a connection between parasites
01:14:17.560 and demons and they go we wonder that all the time because it comes up all the time and i go
01:14:22.360 as they produce this stuff yeah there is something there i'm telling you one of those little threads
01:14:26.940 if you pull on it bears fruit and you and you don't know you don't know what to make of the
01:14:31.080 Right. It's kind of like it's kind of like a, you know, like a tangent or a rabbit hole or whatever.
01:14:36.160 But there there is something interesting about that.
01:14:39.740 And what I think it is, if there if like if there is any kind of a connection, one of the things that I think most people would agree is that, you know, when God says not to engage in sorcery,
01:14:55.160 Like that's like using plants or, you know,
01:14:59.200 other substances to alter your perception or to put you into some kind of
01:15:06.540 altered state of consciousness. And why does that, what,
01:15:11.420 what does it do? It kind of like it switches those chemicals switch like a
01:15:18.340 tuning, you know,
01:15:20.080 like tunes your brain into a different frequency, something in, in, uh, you know, in reality so that
01:15:28.600 you can perceive different, um, aspects or elements of reality. Um, Graham Hancock talks
01:15:38.520 about that, you know, his experiences with, um, using a Hiawaska and in his book, Supernatural,
01:15:46.140 I don't know if you guys know who Graham Hancock is or have read his books, but he's really gotten, I think he's done something like 11, uh, ayahuasca ceremony trips.
01:15:56.700 And in some of them, he has experienced entities, uh, you know, these non-human intelligences that look serpentine that are, you know, very, um, dragon-like or reptilian.
01:16:13.140 reptilian and but not just that he's also experienced other types of beings insectoid
01:16:19.340 type beings and uh alien greys and he's so he's seen all these different kinds of things right
01:16:25.140 my point is that there's something physical that actually can tune your brain you know into
01:16:32.580 something else and honestly i think that people that that be you know become uh possessed i think
01:16:41.860 they do something to allow themselves to become possessed. And it is possible that there is a
01:16:49.220 physical, uh, element to that, at least in some cases. Cause I think if you're tripping out on
01:16:55.320 something and you don't have any kind of control over that trip, you know, you're dealing with
01:17:00.960 stuff that you have no power to protect yourself from whatever it is you're experiencing is
01:17:08.520 happening to you no matter what right and the and they're these beings that occupy this other
01:17:15.940 dimensional space could very well be some of them anyway could be demonic and if they hijack you
01:17:23.080 while you're while you are in this other space um you first of all you did it to yourself but
01:17:30.400 second of all the the main point i guess that i was getting at is that you know what maybe they're
01:17:35.280 I don't know if, if parasites could do that, but if there's something physical in your brain that
01:17:41.660 when it's switched can put you into touch with an alternate reality, Hey, it's, it's a possibility
01:17:50.080 that I, you know, I wonder if anybody has ever thought to, um, conduct a study on that. Like
01:17:55.740 they do with DMT. Well, over and over again, parasites in somebody's brain, man, see what
01:18:01.180 see what happens i'm sure for sure somebody's done that you can probably go to most of america 0.93
01:18:06.440 and they're already parasites yeah we get it from eating whatever fast food that we eat uh but i
01:18:11.020 that's another thing that comes up in our research constantly is frequency it seems that these things
01:18:14.960 you know these disembodied spirits because i would agree going back to the alien conversation
01:18:18.040 we've used the terminology aliens or demons in a hyperbolic way to draw in a conversation but as
01:18:23.380 soon as you get into elaborating on that yeah yeah he just named you named a reptilian species
01:18:28.820 and insecticide species, grays, other angelic beings.
01:18:33.460 On this show, I constantly tell people,
01:18:35.840 there's people that watch it
01:18:36.920 and maybe they watch Joe Rogan too.
01:18:40.500 So they have an inclination to do some sort of psychedelic
01:18:44.040 to interact with this other realm.
01:18:47.180 And I'm against, I guess I'm against mushrooms,
01:18:49.860 but I tell them, hey, listen,
01:18:50.980 I would never tell you to do this
01:18:52.500 because I don't know where you are physically.
01:18:54.720 I don't know where you are spiritually, mentally,
01:18:56.340 but definitely there's a locality to it so when graham hancock is doing these ayahuasca trips
01:19:02.000 i wonder if he's in different locations and if these locations are specific to the entities that
01:19:06.720 he's encountering like do they inhabit this physical locality on the other side and when
01:19:12.880 you do that there do you then see them right at the you know you had a friend that uh she was
01:19:18.760 saying every time she did it she saw like a jaguar no she went to costa rica and did it it was like
01:19:23.500 a general white woman retreat and she did ayahuasca and she had a shaman and she and afterwards she's
01:19:29.480 like oh the grass was talking it was wonderful and uh she says that she saw a woman with a jaguar
01:19:34.660 head and she told the the shaman that was walking her through it and he goes oh yeah yeah she's here
01:19:39.400 we know her yeah we know so like that entity just hangs out here yeah that's the one specific to
01:19:45.840 that location i was like i would never do that again if i were you because you have you're
01:19:50.180 swimming with the sharks right now and everything is consent-based everything is consent-based
01:19:54.400 right so well you've consented once you've once you've taken the drug to go there and i've heard
01:19:59.020 people put it as you're entering these spiritual realms illegally and you are yeah you are maybe
01:20:06.760 where okay you're gonna do that and god kind of goes like these things now have access to you
01:20:12.500 everything is consent-based and you have uh you know consensually broken into uh you know
01:20:20.120 a spiritual realm these things are allowed to access you now that's on you yeah speaking of
01:20:26.720 consent-based stuff i mean doesn't it sound kind of like the the vampire myth yes it does you guys
01:20:32.700 um something else i see on youtube a lot are these like reiki asmr videos where i have like these
01:20:40.880 uh reiki asmr practitioners with you know they're just doing their healing modalities and blah blah
01:20:47.720 blah but if you if you really dig into reiki like one of the main things that they always say
01:20:53.160 at the beginning of their uh videos is either say out loud or just think to yourself i accept
01:21:01.960 no and and when you do that then the reiki which is self like flight like it's it knows where to go
01:21:12.380 yeah how does it know where to go are you directing it no no no i'm not the one doing
01:21:16.240 i'm just channeling this life force energy i'm channeling healing energy yeah so where does this
01:21:22.660 energy come from they say it comes from the universe you know it's like a universal
01:21:26.780 life force energy it's the force from star wars no yes anyway it's it's a uh this thing that
01:21:33.940 it was discovered by a japanese buddhist monk um and he like discovered this healing modality
01:21:44.740 while he was meditating and then he began teaching it to his students and it's become like this
01:21:49.580 worldwide thing now it's really big and it's all throughout the new age community and but that's
01:21:56.420 one of the things that really struck me is that they're they're always saying that it respects
01:22:02.040 your free will and how really how does an energy that has no consciousness respect someone's free
01:22:10.720 will that to me that sounds like there is someone or some intelligence behind that and it's not you
01:22:18.760 as because you know they're like no it's i'm not i'm not the one directing it okay many of these
01:22:24.460 um new age practices they rely on not having strict definitions which i actually think is
01:22:31.800 a really fascinating you see that mirrored in the left right so we're talking about this left
01:22:35.580 versus right sort of a deal and with the left it's really a war on definitions if you can
01:22:40.020 uh disrupt what a word means then fundamentally everything is in flux and everything becomes
01:22:45.840 chaotic and you can never even get past just agreeing on like what a woman is or something
01:22:49.920 crazy like talking about the idea of source rather than god exactly rather than god god who
01:22:55.080 like the god of of jacob the god of the bible like like that god no no source the universe
01:23:01.580 love and light and if you open it up to these really vague definitions then all of a sudden
01:23:06.780 these things can operate but it's weird because they do have you know what you're talking about
01:23:11.260 which is uh they they accidentally slip up and throw a fundamental spiritual law in there which
01:23:16.920 is consent it's like well that's that's actually pretty rigid if you think about it um but but
01:23:23.440 we're gonna be very free here and open sign the dotted line yeah interesting they that but but
01:23:31.480 they they love that where it's like spirituality without any definitions and i go well certainly
01:23:37.480 this has to be defined right certainly this thing has if it's ancient and it's intelligent it's
01:23:43.920 outside of the human experience you know outside of our own intellect then then it does have some
01:23:49.740 sort of boundaries it has some sort of definition it has maybe even a name or or more importantly
01:23:55.040 in nature which is also going back to this alien conversation where everybody wants to talk about
01:24:00.700 the reverse engineer technology everybody wants to talk about how great this is zero point this
01:24:05.220 and that i'm like what about the nature of the things that you're interacting with whether it's
01:24:10.680 the grays or the things or the inside so i specifically used the word demonic earlier
01:24:15.660 instead of just saying demon right because we talked about that that is a disembodied spirit
01:24:19.180 but demonic meaning deceptive in nature against humanity and in opposition to god
01:24:24.940 and over and over again every encounter seems to be demonic these things are deceptive they're
01:24:31.660 they're doing things against you know your better interests and you know uh but nobody wants to talk
01:24:37.420 about that nobody wants to talk about the nature of the spirit that's healing you in reiki nobody
01:24:42.040 wants to talk about the nature of the you know the entities that are facilitating the the tremendous
01:24:48.340 leaps in in you know technological advances i don't care about any of that i want to know about
01:24:53.560 their nature yeah me too because if if there there is such a thing as trojan horse gifts
01:25:01.800 you know yeah and people don't tend to be i you know i don't know that being suspicious and being
01:25:12.420 like uh paranoid i like i don't think that's necessarily a good thing but i do think there
01:25:17.820 should be some critical thought. And I do think that there should be a standard, a litmus test
01:25:24.200 for literally everything that, you know, is trying to tell you anything about, um,
01:25:34.700 anything that's existential, right? Anything that matters to you spiritually long-term,
01:25:40.920 um to to your final destination or to you know that that that um is telling you about the world
01:25:50.660 the reality that you exist in if you don't have like if you don't have um a reason to trust that
01:26:00.260 entity and that reason isn't very good then if it's all just based on your feelings yes which
01:26:09.100 is you know that that's not a good that's not a good litmus test i feel great about this i felt
01:26:13.840 so much like there was this one uh ufo you know whistleblower or whatever talking about jake
01:26:20.200 barber i don't know if it's this guy or not but he was talking about how he felt this feminine
01:26:25.280 yeah okay so i'm like you can't how you however you feel who cares yep how you you could be made
01:26:35.020 to feel anything you know isn't it funny that we live in this paradigm right now we're like
01:26:42.260 you know the the left that has been the status quo for some time and i don't even mean that once
01:26:46.900 again not in a political way i mean in an ideological way is about feelings and so is
01:26:52.060 this entire new age movement is about feelings well you know what there there is like this
01:26:58.880 desire for you know being blissed out it's why people take drugs you know they want to want to
01:27:05.600 have like this euphoric feeling and it's why people are addicted to things like sex sex is great and
01:27:13.160 being able to have like the the this uh emotional attachment to something it's i mean that's normal
01:27:23.600 There is something normal to, you know, that's intrinsic to our species about that.
01:27:27.860 We are emotional creatures and having something that makes us feel happy and joyful and those
01:27:37.260 kinds of things, those, those are not necessarily bad things, but they can also be deceptive.
01:27:44.340 How many people have gotten into romantic relationships that they never should have
01:27:50.260 gotten into ever you know just because they're they had some awesome butterflies for a moment
01:27:57.420 yeah you know the the same the same thing holds true you're getting into a relationship
01:28:02.880 with something you know if you're con if you're if you're in touch with any entity
01:28:08.960 no matter what it is that's a relationship and if you can't trust that relationship if you have no
01:28:16.520 good reason other than how it makes you feel there's something wrong with that it would make
01:28:23.540 sense to me if the spiritual realm is as legal as it appears because the more i've done this the
01:28:29.780 more it seems that way um that definitions would be important and jesus christ explicitly says he
01:28:37.420 is the way the truth and the life and in matthew 7 13 through 14 um it says enter through the narrow
01:28:47.340 gate for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction and many enter through
01:28:52.420 it but small is the gate and narrow is the word the the road that leads to life and i'm doing like
01:29:00.640 a little bit of jumping back and forth is narrow is the road that leads to life and jesus christ
01:29:07.320 is the way the truth and the life right so if these things are synonymous life and the truth
01:29:14.140 and the road that leads to life is narrow that means that the truth is very narrow so it needs
01:29:20.260 to be defined it needs to be defined it needs to be understood this is all very legal and new age
01:29:27.560 practices occultism and everything so much of it is blown wide open absolutely wide gate it's a
01:29:33.820 wide path and people really don't like that, man. And I get it because in some ways you want to
01:29:40.560 lean on your own understanding and the Bible warns against that, but you want to, you want to feel
01:29:44.040 wise, you know, in your ways. So to say something that sounds profound, like God is, is love and
01:29:51.040 light, man. Or like, you know, the universe is, it's you experiencing itself subjectively and
01:29:59.180 all these different things that sound really profound you exactly exactly and god is in all
01:30:05.420 things so worshiping a tree is like worshiping god it's like no the truth is narrow and needs
01:30:11.380 to be defined and that means that the truth isn't dependent on you which that's absolutely right
01:30:18.720 that sucks for a lot of people there there is an objective truth it's not all subjective
01:30:23.780 um speaking about jesus being the way the truth and the life and the way being narrow i was like
01:30:31.800 going and exploring some old like christian rock and um some basically some stuff from like the
01:30:38.660 late 70s right okay and there was uh there's this guy named keith green and he had this i saw an
01:30:46.940 interview with him like he died in a plane crash uh like in 1983 or 84 or something like that
01:30:53.420 Um, but he did this interview and he came out of a very like, uh, new agey kind of background
01:31:02.440 and they were talking to me. So why, why did, you know, why did you, you know,
01:31:08.840 decide to follow Jesus? And he said, well, you know, I was looking at all these different
01:31:16.060 streams of, of, you know, theological streams. I'm looking at all these, uh, basically like
01:31:22.440 ascended masters, you know, I'm looking at Buddha and they're, they're all saying that they are a
01:31:29.180 way and they, they are saying, well, there's this way and that way. And we all get to the same place
01:31:35.220 in the end. Um, but you know, it was like they, they, and they all, but they all have an opinion
01:31:40.440 about Jesus and they're like, where this is a way and this is a way in Jesus. Yeah. He, he's also
01:31:46.200 a way he's jesus is a way right but then i then i got to the bible and i started reading that
01:31:53.200 and then i found out that jesus said about himself that he is the way and there's not any other way
01:32:00.660 he's the you know all these all these guys the buddha confucius all you know all these all these
01:32:06.480 different ascended masters whatever they they all have good things to say about jesus and then you
01:32:13.040 read jesus and jesus said about himself i am the way he said once i found that out i was like okay
01:32:19.880 of all there's up all these other guys who say there is a way or they are a way and jesus is
01:32:26.380 good and you should listen to him because he's also a way but jesus is the only one who says
01:32:31.360 something exclusive and he says i am the way well i gave up all the other ways and i started
01:32:36.860 following jesus it's like you know i was like rock on dude well that's the thing is great now
01:32:44.400 we're doing a study on on hebrews and just the first chapter of it is like when we're talking
01:32:49.340 about the way the definitives that are being spoken of uh while describing jesus christ it's
01:32:54.860 like i mean if you believe if you believe these words it's very hard to uh turn away from it like
01:33:01.560 it's saying without a shadow of a doubt seated at the right hand of god he is the only son of god
01:33:06.740 and it's not saying if maybe uh there's a couple it was like no no no this is it yeah and for
01:33:12.900 people like me like dumb people i'm like give me the answer and i'm gonna follow that and i've you
01:33:18.700 know we've seen something convincing i'm like good all speed ahead let's move in that direction yeah 0.99
01:33:22.880 i love that but that's the that's the beauty of it like that goes back to what we were just
01:33:26.500 talking about the truth being you know having to be defined and being very narrow in its nature
01:33:31.480 is like thank god thank god it's not because that's really that's so simple that's so simple
01:33:36.780 like just follow jesus christ because if it really was up to i don't know the subjective opinions and
01:33:44.280 and you know wisdom of a bunch of a-holes like us things would be really bad like really bad
01:33:51.520 you know like thank god somebody's in in control and his father to simplify this for us because if
01:33:56.860 we were still trying to um you know be saved by the law we couldn't do that we couldn't do that
01:34:03.840 that was far too difficult thank god that jesus christ came and simplified this entire process
01:34:09.960 you know that well he said he said anybody if you if you can't come to me like a little child
01:34:15.180 right you're you're not going to be saved and what do kids do you tell them the truth and they
01:34:21.920 believe you they don't immediately throw up walls and we're like well that sounds kind of right but
01:34:28.220 you know what i've got this objection and this objection and this objection and you know i don't
01:34:34.220 think i'm gonna do it until you can prove every little thing to me and you know and and uh black
01:34:41.000 and white and you know that kind of thing yeah you got kids don't do that if they trust you
01:34:47.540 and they know you're telling them the truth they just it's it's like when you're in a swimming
01:34:53.940 pool and you tell your kid all right just jump to me and i'll catch you yeah and you know and
01:34:58.740 the kids are all right you know without hesitation and that's how believers should be and that and
01:35:06.600 people who come to to the lord that you got to have faith like a kid that's that he just flat
01:35:12.700 outset it and that but it is it's so simple that kids can grasp it so you're right about that well
01:35:20.960 as we uh we're getting a little towards the end of the episode but i have a question um
01:35:25.320 in living in israel is there uh when you're walking around there in in some of these like
01:35:34.040 biblical spots um do you are you yourself able to act like feel something special about the land
01:35:41.340 because it's one of these places that it's like it's constantly fought over and it's got to be
01:35:47.960 constantly fought over for a reason you know jesus died there but we had abraham all these people are
01:35:53.620 like moving through this land when you're on it when you're actually there uh is there anything
01:35:59.620 actually is there anything special about this specific geographic location not just to you but
01:36:06.000 like in in general objectively objectively yeah because there is so much archaeological evidence
01:36:14.500 for the stuff that's talked about in the bible it's unbelievable you know there's there places
01:36:22.480 that that you wouldn't even think of you're you're like driving along and then you're like oh
01:36:28.000 you know there's that's that was where they believe sodom and gomorrah might have been or
01:36:33.680 oh my gosh you know jerusalem just around in in the jerusalem area you know there's the pool of
01:36:40.000 siloam who would have thought you know people didn't actually even believe that it was a real
01:36:44.780 place until archaeologists uncovered it not that long ago which actually provided you know physical
01:36:53.040 evidence for something that the new testament talked about you know remember there's a angel
01:36:57.980 who went and stirred up the pool of siloam yeah yeah and whoever was the first one to jump in
01:37:03.340 after the pool was agitated or whatever would be healed of whatever do you think that was true
01:37:09.140 that like that was that actually yeah absolutely yeah i mean the new testament said that it
01:37:13.120 happened so i i literally believe if it says it yes i i believe that um what else i mean there
01:37:21.980 there's tons and tons of things like that you know either there you can walk through the valley
01:37:27.140 where King David and the army of Israel
01:37:31.400 stood against the army of the Philistines
01:37:34.000 and where the tomb of Goliath is supposed to be.
01:37:38.160 You know, there's like this gigantic tell,
01:37:41.420 which is like a gigantic mound, right?
01:37:44.220 And nobody will excavate it.
01:37:47.340 The Israeli Antiquities Authority won't do it
01:37:49.800 because there's like some religious reasons
01:37:53.040 involving like the fact that there's human remains
01:37:55.820 on the inside.
01:37:57.140 Sure. But from traditional like stories that go back to the Byzantine era, there's like a ruined Byzantine church nearby where Christian pilgrims used to come from Europe traveling down.
01:38:12.060 They'd go through the same valley and they'd go to this Byzantine church and the priests there would be like, oh, there's the tomb of Goliath right over here.
01:38:21.180 we know that it is and like whether they really knew or not i don't know but there is a giant
01:38:27.760 tell there right giant cairn and for like a thousand years more it's like nobody has disturbed
01:38:36.720 it i'm like i would like to do that let's see if goliath's bones are actually inside you know
01:38:42.820 but like there there is tons of those kinds of things now i will say you know before i became
01:38:48.840 a believer, there was, like, it was special to me because, hey, this is Israel. This is where my
01:38:55.720 people came from. It is the land of the Bible, that sort of thing. But it didn't matter to me
01:39:03.140 in the way that it has come to matter to me since I did become a believer. And once I began
01:39:10.840 following Yeshua as my Lord and savior, as, as my Messiah, like everything began to matter to me.
01:39:20.580 You know, like, like I said, if it says it in, in the Torah, if it says it in the Tanakh, the,
01:39:27.060 the, you know, the, the first five books of the Bible, the writings, the prophets, the new
01:39:32.320 Testament, if it says it and it's considered scripture, then it's something that I believe.
01:39:39.720 The more I read it, the more I ingest it, the more I begin to understand God's plan and purpose for the Jewish people, for Israel, for the entire human race, and what his plan is regarding redemption, not just for all of us.
01:39:59.540 because i don't remember if it's paul it might be paul um but it's in the new testament it says
01:40:05.720 what jesus did it's basically universal salvation it's to to bring all of creation
01:40:12.060 all of creation groans until the redemption right and can like to me it's like so i can't wait i
01:40:21.420 can't wait for it to happen i can't wait for yeshua to come back and for all the wrongs to
01:40:26.520 be put to write kind of like in c.s lewis's the chronicles of narnia you know uh all will be all
01:40:32.280 will be made right when aslan comes in sight something like that yeah but it's the same it's
01:40:36.760 the same concept you know jesus comes right everything is made new yeah and so that's yeah
01:40:44.840 it's well you know what it is i don't know if i answered your question yeah i mean you think you
01:40:49.920 did yeah when you're seeing these places or any evidence that like you said specifically these
01:40:55.260 first five books were true it just like it strengthens the entire thing like you can see it
01:41:01.280 you can you you begin to not only um imagine it but um i guess internalize the reality of this
01:41:10.060 situation and if this is true it helps you understand true it helps you understand absolutely
01:41:15.200 absolutely the thousands of years of warfare yeah over this place because a lot of times
01:41:21.240 from a secular point of view like you guys are fighting world war three over well a state that's
01:41:26.360 the size of new jersey that's not here in america it's it's maddening and it's like what are you
01:41:31.160 doing but there has to be something going on there yeah there's something it is it's a spiritual
01:41:35.380 like the bottom line is there is a spiritual war or interdimensional war whatever you want to call
01:41:43.460 it right there's a war between god's forces and a smaller rebellious force but that rebellious
01:41:51.220 force has access to humanity and to our planet until god's plan is finished and it's not it's
01:41:59.360 just not done yet well i want to ask you a final question in in closing here uh will this is
01:42:07.700 something that we like to ask our um our guests on the show everything that you've been doing in
01:42:13.320 the books that you're writing you're living out in israel you're experiencing this uh you know
01:42:18.360 firsthand, you're, you're able to, to walk these streets and put your hands on these things.
01:42:22.960 Um, and everything that God has you doing right now, are you having fun?
01:42:29.600 Wow. Uh, um, sometimes yes, sometimes no, there's a lot of, um, challenges to being a believer
01:42:42.280 here in Israel. I imagine it's the same pretty much everywhere in the world right now, but it
01:42:47.540 can be kind of difficult sometimes um and i would also say like like i have plans for some what i
01:42:56.460 think are some pretty awesome stuff that i that i want to do that i think god is leading me towards
01:43:00.680 um man that's a hard question it's like a very hard question am i having fun um there there is
01:43:10.360 what i do think is fun is discovering the things that that god has for me to discover
01:43:20.580 that part is fun because it's like what uh king solomon said in proverbs that it's basically the
01:43:29.100 honor of kings to seek a thing out you know god hides something yeah but it's like it's like a
01:43:35.020 dad who goes and he like hides a present for his kids and he said go find it you know and that's
01:43:41.720 that is kind of how i feel so from that perspective yeah i would say i'm having fun that's great that's
01:43:47.900 a great that's a great way to put that i love that david references that that uh scripture
01:43:52.280 constantly because it's like that's in essence what we're doing we're constantly scratching the
01:43:57.120 surface it's the glory of god to conceal a thing yeah and yeah yeah yeah yeah it's um
01:44:04.420 people that don't life is this like mystery and and god has done these things he wants you to
01:44:11.920 pursue him he wants you to pursue him and and that is like the great mystery that is the great
01:44:17.680 it's not really hidden because he wants you to know him he wants to reveal himself but he wants
01:44:23.660 you to be a participant in it and um and yeah that is fun that's a lot of absolutely you know
01:44:30.340 one of the things that is speaking about himself he he does hide himself and he wants you to seek
01:44:36.580 him out that's why the prophets say on the day you seek me with your whole heart you'll find me
01:44:42.820 and that's so it's it is up to us like you you go and you want to know him go look for him yeah
01:44:50.260 and don't stop until you find him you know and that's fun that's really fun right because what's
01:44:55.640 the alternative the alternative is is the drudgery of a materialistic paradigm that nothing matters
01:45:02.040 and you're here to grind your yourself into dirt and hopefully maybe you leave something behind for
01:45:07.320 another like no no there is the the creator of the universe your father is is beckoning you
01:45:13.700 and the cool thing is like the interesting thing is always that obviously god knows exactly what
01:45:20.740 you need you don't and he's almost like go ahead and ask me for it go like figure it out and ask
01:45:27.980 me for it and then i'll give it to you and i'm like well i don't even know i don't know what i
01:45:32.240 need and it's but it's this fun game of like he's like he's there waiting but are you going to
01:45:37.580 approach or are you just gonna you know be complacent about it like that's well that's our
01:45:42.300 job to continue to search these things out. And, uh, I think obviously you're doing that, man.
01:45:47.260 It's, it's, it's been a blessing to talk to somebody. That's what we're supposed to do.
01:45:53.000 We're supposed to try and we're going to suck at it, uh, you know, from time to time, but every
01:45:56.740 once in a while we do something super cool. And I think he's pumped about it. Look, well, let's,
01:46:01.020 uh, let's remind everybody, uh, where they can find your work and thank you so much for your
01:46:04.860 time. It's been a wonderful conversation. Thank you for having me. Uh, so people can,
01:46:08.520 can find me at williamblesch.com. That's, uh, and Blesch is B-L-E-S-C-H.com. Uh, and then you guys
01:46:18.880 can, anybody can come and find me on Facebook, friend me, we can talk. Awesome. Excellent. You
01:46:25.200 know what? I'm going to pick up one of these, uh, one of these books and, uh, we have a Christian
01:46:28.940 library in the back. Oh yeah, that's right. That would be a great addition. Uh, so we're, we'll
01:46:33.220 put this in the library and, uh, people could check this out, man. And we'd love to have you
01:46:36.800 back some time talk about whatever you whatever you want i mean all these things are unfolding
01:46:40.660 and we kick them off the stage uh all these things are unfolding and uh um you know you've got this
01:46:45.720 body of work and i'm sure you've got something to say about a lot of different things so we'd
01:46:50.360 love to have you back sometime will thank you so much thank you so much all right i would be
01:46:54.540 honored to be back so excellent awesome uh guys excellent episode until next time don't forget to
01:46:59.980 obey, submit, and comply. We'll see you later.
01:47:29.980 When the last trumpet sounds