Nephilim Death Squad - Meme Culture, Chaos w⧸ Ben of Bennis the Menace

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00:02:48.580 We have a great guest today.

00:02:51.960 Introducing Ben.

00:02:53.500 Ben is the menace.

00:02:54.540 Well, it's Ben.

00:02:55.200 Ben is the menace.

00:02:56.640 I know.

00:02:56.980 Dennis doesn't exist.

00:02:58.380 He died.

00:02:59.180 Did Dennis die?

00:03:00.700 Bro, Dennis actually works as a hospice chaplain.

00:03:03.540 So he is currently working with the death as we speak.

00:03:07.340 You guys stepped in it.

00:03:09.860 Yeah, we just stepped in it.

00:03:11.680 Before we get into today's show, Ben, let's talk about where people can find you and what

00:03:16.460 your show and your work is all about.

00:03:18.380 Dennis the menace pod.

00:03:19.740 What is the work about?

00:03:21.380 Oh, man.

00:03:22.060 I don't know.

00:03:22.640 Everything, anything.

00:03:23.580 We know nothing about anything, but we talk about everything.

00:03:27.820 And we are Dennis the menace pod on everything.

00:03:30.660 You'll find it.

00:03:31.380 It's not that hard.

00:03:32.060 Guys, let me just say real quick, that was the most incredible intro video I've ever seen

00:03:37.500 in my life.

00:03:38.720 You liked it, huh?

00:03:39.720 Thank you.

00:03:39.960 I did.

00:03:40.820 And also the actual intro post video, like the whole thing you guys did, has really inspired

00:03:47.720 me to step it up.

00:03:49.980 And my co-host is fired.

00:03:54.720 Dennis is gone.

00:03:56.380 David, are you looking for a job?

00:03:58.640 Oh, well, if you want me to fumble my way through your intros, I'd be happy to do that.

00:04:03.180 You know, this is episode, I don't know, 387,000.

00:04:08.080 Illuminati confirmed.

00:04:08.920 And I just, you know what I've given less of a damn about?

00:04:12.960 Yeah.

00:04:13.260 The intro.

00:04:14.020 Yeah, me neither.

00:04:14.600 The further it goes in, the more I'm like, what's up?

00:04:16.740 The people know.

00:04:17.840 You know.

00:04:18.520 You know what you're listening to.

00:04:19.560 This is going to be a 20 minute preview, Timothy Alvarino.

00:04:21.800 We're cutting it.

00:04:22.380 And let me tell you something.

00:04:23.160 I also don't care about how much of that 20 minutes I waste before we get into content,

00:04:27.460 before we fill the people's content.

00:04:29.860 I just, I like doing things in a comfy kind of way these days.

00:04:35.680 And so if that means fumbling through the intro, I'm glad you like it.

00:04:38.980 Maybe the worst one to date.

00:04:41.460 What?

00:04:42.780 That was probably all the worst show.

00:04:44.380 That will speak.

00:04:45.300 That speaks volumes to what our intros are like.

00:04:49.860 Okay.

00:04:50.380 If you got, oh my God.

00:04:51.540 I don't know.

00:04:51.860 Nevermind.

00:04:52.140 Dennis, you're fired.

00:04:53.940 There you go.

00:04:54.860 Well, I guess he was already fired.

00:04:56.080 We were just on your show recently and we still didn't meet Dennis.

00:04:59.660 And now he's, he's tending to the dead, which is a, you know, a pretty good excuse, I guess.

00:05:05.280 It's pretty, it's pretty, it's pretty good.

00:05:07.120 But he's in the age of AI.

00:05:09.280 Yeah.

00:05:09.560 Couldn't you make a bot to take care of those dead folks?

00:05:12.880 Or couldn't you make a Dennis an AI representation on your show?

00:05:16.560 Does he exist, Chad?

00:05:17.600 Is this real?

00:05:19.160 Chad.

00:05:19.520 You're right.

00:05:19.740 It's like the guy that's like, oh, my girlfriend and then never shows up with a girl.

00:05:24.440 That's me with Dennis.

00:05:25.180 Uh-huh.

00:05:25.880 I knew a guy like that actually.

00:05:27.560 And I wish I had that memory at the forefront of my mind because you sparked something.

00:05:30.600 I knew a guy that was constantly talking about his girlfriend.

00:05:33.520 She was in a different country.

00:05:34.580 And, um, and I, it was just like for years and years and years, we never saw her.

00:05:39.540 We never met her.

00:05:40.320 And then eventually, like, it took a while, but we were all like, hey, I don't think this

00:05:42.800 chick exists.

00:05:43.220 So very much in the same vein, uh, exists Dennis or, or doesn't exist.

00:05:47.320 Um, but I like what you said about, uh, you're a, a couple of guys that talk about everything,

00:05:53.440 but don't know anything.

00:05:54.620 And I said, damn, just like us for real, for real, for real, for real.

00:05:58.180 Cause I feel very much the same way.

00:05:59.600 And I, I, I notice as the days tick forward, and I wonder if you would agree with this,

00:06:04.420 Ben, you know, we're in this era of Epstein files, whatever, you know, and, and I, I'm,

00:06:11.380 I'm looking through these things and I go, I'm very uncertain about the vast majority of

00:06:16.740 things that I think I know these days in my, in my, uh, loyalty to Jesus Christ.

00:06:23.300 I'm certain that, uh, a savior was born through the line of David.

00:06:27.720 Uh, God came and died for our sins so that we had a path to redemption that, that cornerstone,

00:06:34.580 that foundation, very firm, everything else massively in flux.

00:06:38.740 Super firm.

00:06:39.820 Yeah.

00:06:40.260 We, we, we have no idea what's going on.

00:06:43.220 You know, even the last time when you guys were on the show, uh, and we were going into

00:06:46.780 the deception that Satan's kind of unveiling and unfolding the multifaceted deception of

00:06:51.960 aliens and stuff, bro.

00:06:53.360 We have no idea what reality actually is.

00:06:56.440 It's our perception of reality is just based on what the TV tells us straight up.

00:07:01.680 That's it.

00:07:02.920 And we literally have no clue what's actually going on.

00:07:05.680 We have, we have like an intuition because we know these guys are evil Satanists, right?

00:07:11.400 If you're not in Christ, you're a Satanist, you belong to Satan.

00:07:16.700 So then is it a surprise that the most powerful, richest elites who some claim to descend from

00:07:24.140 Nephilim bloodlines, like Gary Wayne says, is it a surprise that they're still doing like

00:07:28.500 the sacrifices and the crazy child rituals and stuff that they were doing back in the

00:07:32.720 day?

00:07:32.940 Not at all.

00:07:34.040 It's expected.

00:07:34.660 Yeah.

00:07:36.100 When people, people have been, you know, there's a video, maybe you could find it top.

00:07:40.760 There's like this video of this lady at an airport.

00:07:42.680 Oh yeah.

00:07:43.320 And she's screaming about the Epstein files and which I think is interesting.

00:07:48.120 I, I, it's a sign of the times for sure.

00:07:50.180 Right.

00:07:50.420 And, and, um, and in that way, something fascinating to look at, but there is this part of, of the

00:07:59.960 human experience that calls you to do something about it.

00:08:02.800 And, and really what, what people are asking is for people to mobilize, get together and

00:08:08.760 do something about the world, right?

00:08:11.440 The world as it has always been, has there always been, you know, elites worshiping fallen

00:08:17.820 entities?

00:08:18.440 Uh, has there always been, you know, conglomerative Satanists sacrificing children and all these

00:08:25.520 like, yeah, dude.

00:08:26.540 Yeah.

00:08:27.020 It's been that way since, uh, you know, I don't know here.

00:08:30.760 Let's, I don't have audio.

00:08:38.500 Uh, I don't know if anybody else can hear that either.

00:08:41.860 Uh, we'll make sure it's coming to the right thing, but guys, have you ever heard, have you

00:08:45.460 heard that in the chat?

00:08:46.120 But, but I mean, that's what we're asking to do something about, right?

00:08:50.060 We're asking to rectify the way the world has always been.

00:08:53.780 We're called to be in the world, not of it.

00:08:56.840 Right.

00:08:57.320 Uh, pilgrims in a strange land and, um, or in a foreign land.

00:09:01.680 Can you hear that?

00:09:04.200 Still no.

00:09:05.960 No.

00:09:06.400 Okay.

00:09:06.880 Still no.

00:09:07.480 Couldn't hear it.

00:09:08.760 Couldn't hear it.

00:09:09.100 All right.

00:09:09.260 Well, I guess we'll, we'll screw that clip, but it's just this, is it a lady or is it

00:09:13.780 a guy?

00:09:14.460 I think it's a guy lady.

00:09:15.620 That's a lady.

00:09:16.420 It's a lady boy.

00:09:17.780 Um, you know, walking through, walking through the, the airport and saying that everybody

00:09:22.920 is losing their minds because they're acting normal while something abnormal is happening,

00:09:27.460 meaning the, the release of the episode.

00:09:28.780 And I, you know, but, but I guess my point is like, I love how they're doing it too.

00:09:34.240 Like, yeah, I don't know that days, the Epstein files out today and all the black people around

00:09:40.680 they're like, he didn't fuck any black kids.

00:09:42.200 So I don't, I'm not really worried about that.

00:09:44.640 Dude, I don't know.

00:09:46.100 I don't know.

00:09:47.180 Arguably the references to grape soda probably.

00:09:53.020 There was references to grape soda, right?

00:09:54.820 I think you asked that the other day.

00:09:55.940 Oh, there's a bunch.

00:09:56.760 It's, it's the, the, the, the, they always talk about pizza and grape soda together,

00:10:03.040 together.

00:10:03.560 I shouldn't say always, but repeatedly it's mentioned by multiple people.

00:10:07.180 Even his, honestly, sounds like a party.

00:10:09.060 Even, even his, uh, what's it called?

00:10:12.400 Not gynecologist, but what's a male gynecologist.

00:10:14.760 The guy that gives you Viagra and stuff.

00:10:16.660 Okay.

00:10:17.140 The penis doctor, you know what I'm talking about?

00:10:20.500 Hey, his penis doctor messages him.

00:10:23.000 Here's your prescription for your erectile dysfunction medication.

00:10:26.760 Uh, once it gets cleared up, let me know and let's go get pizza and grape soda together.

00:10:32.260 Jeez.

00:10:32.920 Whoa.

00:10:33.840 Yeah.

00:10:34.180 That's a, that's a weird one.

00:10:35.780 Huh?

00:10:35.940 Well, I mean, like, I suppose what I'm getting at is like, I'm not saying to roll over, especially

00:10:42.100 Christians are always accused of this, like pacifism to the degree of allowing people to

00:10:46.020 trespass.

00:10:46.660 Cockter is the Cockter.

00:10:47.800 Good job.

00:10:48.420 Elohim.

00:10:49.120 Elohim with the banger.

00:10:50.020 Um, but, uh, Christians are often accused of pacifism to the degree that we allow people

00:10:56.340 to trespass against us and allow the world to.

00:10:59.800 And it's like, I don't think we allow the world to do anything.

00:11:04.140 The world will constantly give in to its carnal nature, right?

00:11:09.500 Sins of the flesh and falling victim to these negative spiritual entities nudging and pushing

00:11:17.140 for, you know, you to engage in something that is, uh, you know, base, uh, um, operations as

00:11:23.920 far as like lower vibrational negative sin, right?

00:11:27.380 That's what we're talking about.

00:11:28.740 Um, and so, yeah, I don't think that that's on Christians.

00:11:31.100 It's like, Oh, Christians have a tendency to, to turn the other cheek, let's say.

00:11:35.160 And then the world falls in him.

00:11:36.820 It's like, no, dude, it's always been this way.

00:11:38.840 It's been this way since the dawn of time.

00:11:40.400 I don't know what that looks like to mobilize suddenly.

00:11:42.580 And, and, and a question I've been asking lately is, are we, are we even called to do

00:11:46.680 that?

00:11:46.940 Does the Bible call for us to rid the wicked, uh, or the world of the wicked?

00:11:54.760 I don't think so.

00:11:56.120 I've been struggling with this as well.

00:11:57.860 You know, if it's, if it's somebody showing up to your house to like rape your wife and

00:12:04.340 children, I understand the defense of, or the argument for self-defense, you know, that's

00:12:09.540 just violence for the sake of like violence.

00:12:11.920 But when it's persecution, I don't think we're ever called to retaliate.

00:12:17.700 I don't think we have an example of that in the new Testament via the apostles or Jesus

00:12:22.820 himself or early church, or you know what I'm saying?

00:12:26.120 Um, and I've been, I've been, I've been struggling with this myself, so I, I know where you're

00:12:31.360 at.

00:12:32.220 Yeah.

00:12:32.700 Are we're called to be in the world?

00:12:35.500 Not of it.

00:12:36.340 Are we called to save it?

00:12:37.440 Are we called to save it?

00:12:38.280 It's like Christ comes to redeem the world.

00:12:39.960 That's, that's his gig.

00:12:41.340 Thank God it's not mine.

00:12:43.240 Right.

00:12:43.540 Uh, I couldn't do it.

00:12:44.920 So I don't know.

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00:13:03.200 Apparently at the Superbowl, I don't know if it ran.

00:13:05.400 Did you, did you happen to catch this as an Epstein ad?

00:13:07.880 No.

00:13:08.260 Oh yeah.

00:13:08.620 Yeah.

00:13:08.780 With a woman.

00:13:09.720 Women.

00:13:10.520 So, um, so, so yeah, you know, there's this ad where, and, and it's a soft disclosure to

00:13:18.860 the normies, I would say, because what it is, is it's, it's a bunch of women that are our

00:13:23.500 age, maybe a little bit older, a little bit younger, and they're insinuating that they

00:13:27.920 were trafficked by Epstein at a time where they're holding up their own photos.

00:13:31.500 And it's that kind of weird space again, like the Netflix documentary did where it's like

00:13:35.480 16, 17 year olds.

00:13:36.600 That's how they look in the photo.

00:13:38.500 16, 17, you know, somewhere in that neighborhood when they were trafficked, obviously the Epstein

00:13:43.140 files contain a lot darker subject matter, you know, on that topic.

00:13:48.860 Um, but it's wild.

00:13:51.060 It's wild that we live in a time where the Superbowl might be the biggest platform for

00:13:57.220 advertising ever, right?

00:13:58.820 When bad buddy plays the Superbowl, he's effectively played the largest stage in the world, right?

00:14:04.120 So if your advertisements are running during the Superbowl's ads, which is, you know, ads

00:14:08.760 are one of the things it's known for biggest platform possible for your product, your product

00:14:14.280 in this case being sexual extortion extortion.

00:14:18.860 I'm not sure.

00:14:20.500 I don't know what it's calling a question.

00:14:22.520 Someone was like, who paid for this?

00:14:24.120 But they were coming at it from, they're coming at it from Fortnite tokens.

00:14:29.220 Yeah.

00:14:30.080 Yeah.

00:14:30.560 Yeah.

00:14:30.780 Uh, they, they were saying like, uh, basically how it's, it's controlled up because how did

00:14:35.740 they get eight to $10 million to play this commercial?

00:14:38.460 And I don't know.

00:14:39.260 I could see people that are concerned about this subject, you know, putting out some cash.

00:14:44.880 Sure.

00:14:45.280 But it's like, who are those people is a good question.

00:14:47.800 Well, the, the Superbowl is the great ritual, right?

00:14:51.160 It's the great yearly, the annual ritual ceremony, the superb owl.

00:14:55.480 Um, so I think that for Epstein to be on that, I don't know if it's an altruistic thing that's

00:15:02.700 happened where a bunch of donors got together.

00:15:05.100 We're concerned about this thing.

00:15:06.700 This feels like, um, we're getting to the point where we're, we're pulling the curtain

00:15:11.560 back.

00:15:11.880 Uh, Ben, what do you, what do you make of it?

00:15:14.600 I mean, just the overall climate right now, we're getting blapped up by Epstein files.

00:15:20.140 Um, you know, disclosure seems to be on the horizon.

00:15:22.840 We were just on your show talking about that weird time.

00:15:26.500 Uh, definitely a weird time.

00:15:28.800 I'm not optimistic at all.

00:15:31.840 Uh, one of the, one of the laws within like Luciferianism, right?

00:15:37.180 Satanism is that they have to tell you what they're doing.

00:15:41.340 Okay.

00:15:42.160 Whether you believe them or not, whether you think it's just art, whether you think

00:15:47.480 they're just joking, right?

00:15:49.840 That's on you.

00:15:51.200 But when they tell you that, Hey, we run the world, we're sacrificing children.

00:15:58.060 We're freaking essaying them.

00:16:01.440 We're, we run the show and we're doing the most evil, occultic, demonic crap you've ever

00:16:06.160 seen in your life.

00:16:06.920 If you don't do anything about it from a Luciferian perspective, that's on you.

00:16:13.400 We've told you what's going on.

00:16:15.520 Okay.

00:16:16.020 If nobody did anything after COVID, if nobody's going to do anything after they publicize three

00:16:22.360 million documents of this kind of satanic shit that's going on.

00:16:25.660 That's on us.

00:16:27.260 You know, are we as Christians called to do anything about it?

00:16:30.660 Like go out and, uh, be violent?

00:16:34.260 Probably not.

00:16:35.120 Are we, are we called to protest, draw awareness to call it out?

00:16:40.740 Uh, I think that's the extent that we can go to because realistically the normies are just

00:16:47.480 going to go back to work on Monday, today's Monday.

00:16:50.080 So they're back at work and they are going to complain about it on the internet and then

00:16:56.120 they're going to vote for the same people to represent our country and to run it.

00:17:02.220 That's exactly what's going to happen.

00:17:03.860 Nothing's going to change.

00:17:04.660 And the only thing this does is going to embolden the elites who are facing no consequences,

00:17:15.200 no consequences for anybody.

00:17:17.500 Okay.

00:17:18.480 They're just going to be emboldened to do worse because that's exactly what's going to happen.

00:17:23.060 They're going to do worse.

00:17:24.280 And that's part of the, in my opinion, this leads up to the, this is the frogs in boiling

00:17:30.220 raw water, right?

00:17:31.220 The slow boil of like evil that's being perpetuated on humanity.

00:17:35.000 And I think it culminate in culminates in the alien disclosure.

00:17:38.160 I think that's where this leads, where evil gets so bad, so crazy that lo and behold, poof,

00:17:45.560 here are our saviors that appear in the clouds.

00:17:48.680 You know, that's where I think this goes.

00:17:50.700 I think that's a, a highly likely scenario.

00:17:54.460 Um, we were talking with Ed Mabry recently and, and, um, he's much more of scriptural

00:18:03.620 content than he is of like whatever schizo crap the world is doing, which is always fascinating

00:18:09.160 because we get to talk to him and he's got great ideas and great input on all types of

00:18:14.200 subjects.

00:18:14.500 And every once in a while we'll introduce something to him where he'll go like, I actually didn't

00:18:17.340 know that was a thing.

00:18:18.880 And, um, he was watching, uh, our way he was asking number one, what makes us think

00:18:25.820 that disclosure is, is actually imminent this time and imminent is maybe not a word that

00:18:29.580 I would use, but I think it's a higher likelihood than it's ever been.

00:18:32.940 I think every March forward in time increases the likelihood you get a little bit closer,

00:18:38.120 right?

00:18:38.420 But if you're just looking at like the kind of political and cultural climate, especially

00:18:41.700 within the UAP space, it really seems like there's some big gearing up for, you know,

00:18:46.320 people are positioning themselves and getting ready for a narrative, uh, to be imparted

00:18:51.720 on the people.

00:18:52.260 And, and that narrative is certainly narrative, uh, control.

00:18:55.580 But one of the things Ed said that was pretty fascinating was he thinks that a lot of this

00:19:00.160 is about normalization, right?

00:19:03.440 Normalize sort of thing, because it does seem like we're in an era where you could, to your

00:19:08.360 point, then pull back the curtain on any number of things.

00:19:11.980 And then we kind of, we'll just shrug at it and go, well, all right.

00:19:14.600 Cause, cause, you know, I got to go to work on Monday and I have mouths to feed and I

00:19:19.120 have bills to pay and I got Fortnite to play and Jeffrey Epstein's in my party and he, I

00:19:24.060 promised him I'll be there at 6 PM and we're gonna, we're gonna do, uh, we're gonna put

00:19:28.060 Fortnite.

00:19:28.540 So, I mean, I don't know if it's, if it's just the stresses of life or maybe I actually,

00:19:34.840 I think I do have a pretty good idea.

00:19:36.120 I think it's that what we've referenced as the, the news cycle and it's, it's, um, constriction

00:19:44.560 as far as time goes.

00:19:45.580 So previously it would be like a, a month long news cycle, maybe in the nineties, right?

00:19:50.520 You would hang on to a story for like a whole month and it would grip the nation for a month.

00:19:54.500 And, and eventually as time goes forward, that gets shortened to like a week long news cycle.

00:19:59.040 And we used to say like, man, it doesn't matter what it is this week.

00:20:02.080 Cause next week it's going to be something else that got to a 24 hour news cycle, which

00:20:07.540 I think is what we exist in, um, when times are gracious, but when times are really hectic,

00:20:15.260 that thing gets constricted to like a, I don't know, like an hour by hour news cycle.

00:20:20.380 And especially since the new year has unveiled, it's been like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

00:20:24.740 boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:20:25.180 It's like every day there's something new, but there's a couple of things new daily.

00:20:29.200 And so I could definitely see that we've become desensitized to a lot of the information that's

00:20:33.980 coming out, no matter how crazy it is.

00:20:35.340 I remember in 2017, when they said they've recovered off world craft, the Pentagon said

00:20:39.720 that we just went, okay.

00:20:42.140 And then they said, well, we've got non-human biologics.

00:20:45.340 And we're like, the language is exhausting.

00:20:48.300 Could you be maybe more specific about that?

00:20:50.120 Is it aliens say aliens?

00:20:51.540 And then once again, we just didn't give a shit.

00:20:53.160 So one of the things that I saw that made me think about how Ed Mabry is consistently

00:21:00.460 over the target, I sent it to the group chat recently, right?

00:21:03.600 But it's, it comes from a Groyper account, right?

00:21:07.500 So this is a Nick Fuentes enjoyer.

00:21:10.860 And not that that's a huge condemnation of Nick, although I do think that he created

00:21:15.160 fertile ground for this idea to sprout by, you know, saying things like Jeffrey Epstein

00:21:20.840 has aura, right?

00:21:22.080 So, so I never thought, or I never stopped to think that the thing that might become

00:21:25.700 normalized is Jeffrey Epstein being based.

00:21:27.820 But it seems like that actually is happening.

00:21:30.540 This guy says literally anybody with any success over the age of 35 was on Epstein's Island.

00:21:37.680 And then he goes a step further and says, and if you're 35 plus, and you're not a pedophile,

00:21:43.300 you're a moron, which is like an outlandish thing to say.

00:21:48.820 Dang.

00:21:49.420 But of course that tweet blows up now.

00:21:51.780 Now it's controversial.

00:21:53.280 Most people are denouncing it, but I do think like, oh shit, he just crossed a line.

00:21:58.480 And like, now that that's on the table to joke about.

00:22:02.700 And it's like, look, we delve in comedy a lot, but I do have to ask myself at what point

00:22:06.900 do the jokes become like a tool by which you normalize the sentiment?

00:22:13.080 Of course.

00:22:13.900 Yeah.

00:22:14.200 I mean, that's what the gestures were, you know, like in the court, they were to poke fun

00:22:20.060 at certain things in society to where people who were the elites making the calls, you know,

00:22:26.000 could kind of laugh it off.

00:22:29.040 And at the same time, if you look at past civilizations, like ancient civilizations,

00:22:35.320 bro, human and child sacrifice, all the norm.

00:22:38.620 That wasn't something they were hiding.

00:22:40.940 Child, I don't know, SA, I guess, was completely normalized, right?

00:22:47.520 The Greeks, the Romans, all of them, all of them, even before that, they all had freaking

00:22:52.220 child bang toys.

00:22:54.480 You know, this was completely out in the open and normal, but it was the elites that were

00:22:58.900 perpetrating these things.

00:23:00.180 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:01.000 And so what a coincidence that those past civilizations that normalized these activities, that now

00:23:07.740 we are so outraged that Epstein was doing on behalf of a certain government.

00:23:14.220 It was normal in their civilizations or their cultures back then.

00:23:17.920 And they were also arguably way more in touch with the demonic fallen angel, false gods, whatever

00:23:26.220 you want to call it.

00:23:27.360 They were in communication and worshipped these things and possibly even saw them on

00:23:32.260 the regular, you know?

00:23:33.360 So this is what I'm saying.

00:23:35.020 This thing has a natural trajectory based on historic events that we could analyze from

00:23:40.000 the past.

00:23:40.680 And I think the natural next step is...

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00:23:59.620 Alien, demon, fallen angels, whatever you want to call them.

00:24:03.200 Manifestation.

00:24:04.060 And then worship.

00:24:05.620 You know?

00:24:06.320 I think that's the trajectory.

00:24:07.620 And it makes sense based on what we've seen in history.

00:24:10.260 There was an interesting tweet that prior guest Jordan Crowder brought up.

00:24:16.020 And I won't play the video here, but he is kind of...

00:24:19.760 He comes from like the New Age realm.

00:24:22.200 It's a little Gnostic.

00:24:23.240 It's a little New Age.

00:24:24.200 It's a little, you know, and I like Jordan, but it is very much like...

00:24:27.720 A little astrological, all that stuff.

00:24:29.180 A little leaning on your own understanding kind of a deal, which I mean, you know, I'm

00:24:31.980 sure...

00:24:32.300 It's fine.

00:24:32.520 I like to look at him as a reference of what he's looking at over there because I think

00:24:36.380 he does bring pretty good material.

00:24:38.460 He does.

00:24:38.760 He's a great researcher.

00:24:39.760 Yeah.

00:24:39.880 So, William Tompkins is talking about how he knows all about the Luciferian agenda, but

00:24:45.380 doesn't think that the world is ready for the conversation.

00:24:48.220 This was about 20 years ago.

00:24:50.580 He says that in the video, this old dude, he was 92 at the time.

00:24:54.500 He said that it would take away from UFO disclosure.

00:24:57.280 And then he goes, is the world now ready to know the truth about these aliens?

00:25:04.260 And it's kind of...

00:25:06.260 Wait, I'm going to see that again.

00:25:07.740 So, he says he knows all about the Luciferian agenda, but doesn't think the world is ready

00:25:13.280 for the conversation.

00:25:14.020 It would take away.

00:25:15.240 That's fascinating because I'm wondering how Jordan is framing that in his mind.

00:25:22.600 I mean, he's very much a guy...

00:25:23.620 You know, by the way, his calls with like 3i Atlas and how 3i Atlas is supposed to be this

00:25:31.020 herald of awakening of some sort.

00:25:34.960 And that basically, Ben, just to kind of cue you into what Jordan is saying here, he came

00:25:40.900 on our show and he said, you know, 3i Atlas just stands for third, you know, interstellar

00:25:46.720 object or whatever that passes through our awareness.

00:25:49.440 It's only the third one because we only developed the technology to perceive it rather recently.

00:25:53.260 So, it's the third one that we've detected.

00:25:55.500 And each previous one comes in and what happens after it is some sort of like great, you know...

00:26:04.880 So, the first one that happened, the next thing that came up after it left was Pizzagate.

00:26:10.160 The second one that happened, the next thing that came up was COVID and the lockdowns.

00:26:15.040 This one just passed by, is now leaving apparently.

00:26:18.680 And we're getting the Epstein files and also what seems to be disclosure.

00:26:23.780 So, it's fascinating.

00:26:25.300 I'll give it to Jordan.

00:26:26.520 That's a fascinating observation.

00:26:29.240 And it's like, it's almost like it's orchestrated, right?

00:26:32.380 So, that thing passes by and it's not that there's this natural enlightenment.

00:26:37.780 Something happens.

00:26:38.800 Right.

00:26:39.060 But we're given information.

00:26:41.580 Yeah.

00:26:41.720 Like, I wouldn't necessarily call Pizzagate an enlightenment.

00:26:44.700 And I certainly wouldn't call COVID.

00:26:46.320 It's more like it's prime time to harness the energy of a celestial object to pull off a big con.

00:26:54.500 Almost.

00:26:55.180 Maybe that's what they're doing.

00:26:56.340 It seems a little bit.

00:26:57.580 But what I'm getting at...

00:26:58.640 There's certainly a time frame that they have to do this in.

00:27:00.320 Right.

00:27:00.780 They're looking at the stars to know when.

00:27:02.980 Yeah.

00:27:03.260 That's crazy.

00:27:04.000 I didn't remember that.

00:27:05.500 I didn't even put that together.

00:27:06.300 That, yeah, as this thing leaves, I think it just went behind the sun.

00:27:11.360 You know how this 3i Alice was supposed to pass us?

00:27:14.780 Goes behind the sun.

00:27:15.900 Something interesting as well that he mentioned was like the burn off from it.

00:27:19.440 Which, I don't know.

00:27:21.600 I think the theory does work on a flat plane or around spinning Earth with an entire universe.

00:27:28.500 If something is coming from like out of our system, where we're at, and it's going at extreme speeds, there's got to be a burn off of some type.

00:27:38.500 There has to be something disintegrating off of it.

00:27:40.880 So as it sprinkles that over the Earth and just continues to go on by, what happens?

00:27:46.580 You introduce something different into, you know, a current organism, which is a reality.

00:27:52.260 So it's like, well, what does that mean?

00:27:54.260 What does that mean for us at all?

00:27:55.500 I don't know.

00:27:56.340 I don't know.

00:27:57.280 It is strange, though, to see.

00:27:58.840 I'm wondering what he thinks about that.

00:28:01.040 Like, if Luciferianism takes away from the UFO disclosure, is he seeing that as like a negative thing?

00:28:08.220 Or is he seeing it as like, oh, that's what UFO disclosure act.

00:28:10.880 Is that's maybe something I'd like to ask.

00:28:14.560 It'll take away from the conversation of UFO disclosure as UFOs being anything other than anything other than demons.

00:28:23.820 It does in a way because we've we've already had the satanic panic.

00:28:28.600 The idea of I kind of do understand the trope of of other people looking at Christians calling things demonic.

00:28:36.140 Right.

00:28:37.220 Yeah.

00:28:37.500 From the outside looking in, you can be you can say, all right.

00:28:40.080 Like when I'm looking at my mom or something and she's calling something demonic.

00:28:43.620 I'm like, all right, let's let's be a little bit more specific, specific, logical.

00:28:49.640 Let's calm down for a second and look at what this is.

00:28:52.660 So there is that specific trope.

00:28:54.280 But it doesn't change the fact that it is.

00:28:56.940 You know what I mean?

00:28:57.760 It's just that that trope's been used so much.

00:29:00.160 It's like the boy who cried wolf.

00:29:01.660 So now to the general public, they'll look at it and they won't be able to have this conversation because they'll be correctly looking at something which is bizarre to say.

00:29:10.040 And maybe a little bit more complex than demons.

00:29:13.100 Yeah.

00:29:13.880 Can I ask you guys a question?

00:29:15.680 Yeah.

00:29:15.940 Are you guys seeing or have you seen any Christians?

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00:29:38.620 Try to excuse, sidestep, ignore the fact that Epstein was working on behalf of Israel.

00:29:49.720 That's a good question.

00:29:51.060 And I don't know that I've seen that.

00:29:52.800 I've seen.

00:29:53.100 I don't know if I'd call them Christians.

00:29:54.480 Well, I've seen Jews and I don't even mean that in the typical derogatory sense.

00:29:58.100 Yeah.

00:29:58.400 I've seen that within the context of like a Ben Shapiro.

00:30:01.500 I've been heavy on the Jew stuff lately.

00:30:03.540 And I try.

00:30:04.000 It's an apple.

00:30:04.820 I try not to bonk so much on Twitter.

00:30:06.680 But I don't know.

00:30:08.060 Like journalists, they'll say, what's the big deal?

00:30:11.080 What's the deal with Epstein?

00:30:12.760 And I just go, hey, Grok, what's their ethnicity?

00:30:15.780 And every single time it's like, is he Jewish?

00:30:17.860 His mother's Jewish?

00:30:18.620 Yeah.

00:30:19.320 And I'm just like, yeah, yeah, man, dude, I know.

00:30:21.740 But there are evangelical Christians out there that are shoe-shoeing it away as well.

00:30:27.180 They love the Russian narrative or the Qatar narrative.

00:30:30.140 Anything but Israel, which is very clear.

00:30:33.260 And don't get me wrong.

00:30:34.260 Maybe he did some shit with Russia, too.

00:30:36.220 This dude was doing stuff with everybody.

00:30:38.140 But what's very clear is in these emails, it's like 90% of the people in there are Jewish.

00:30:43.720 It seems like this dude is working very closely with Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father was Mossad.

00:30:49.120 And it's like, yeah, yeah.

00:30:50.920 He says in the emails, I work for the Rothschilds.

00:30:55.920 And they're like, I think he's working with Russia.

00:30:59.520 And he's like, yeah, I don't know.

00:31:00.500 Which I don't even know what to make of those emails just because he says that.

00:31:03.500 It's like it's just so obvious that I'm like, you know, I'm not like super pumped just because the obvious thing that I thought was true ends up being referenced in the in the because I remember fighting with people.

00:31:14.760 I think I even I forgot who it might have been Dave Smith to some degree about the Mossad ties to to Epstein.

00:31:20.260 We like briefly touched on that in an episode.

00:31:22.020 And he kind of like he dismissed the premise.

00:31:23.940 He dismissed it.

00:31:24.580 Yeah.

00:31:24.800 But I mean, that's what's that?

00:31:29.460 That's silly.

00:31:31.220 Well, this was back before any of this, you know, was publicly.

00:31:35.960 I mean, it's always been publicly available.

00:31:37.620 How the hell else would I have figured it out for 30 minutes, guys?

00:31:40.160 We're cutting the stream.

00:31:40.880 Oh, yeah.

00:31:41.020 Cut the stream.

00:31:41.540 Keep these poor people out.

00:31:42.640 So then what about you?

00:31:43.960 Have you seen any Christians?

00:31:44.960 Because I don't see why you would feel the need to defend it.

00:31:47.940 It doesn't really like, you know, Israel is involved.

00:31:51.080 OK, Israel.

00:31:52.060 Look in the Bible.

00:31:52.640 What have they been doing since the beginning of time?

00:31:55.680 They've been messing up pretty massively.

00:31:58.080 So nothing new under the sun here.

00:31:59.560 Have you seen this?

00:32:01.020 I haven't seen anybody defending like Epstein or Israel.

00:32:06.380 But what I have seen is people intentionally leaving out the inconvenient little detail that Epstein was working on behalf of Israel.

00:32:16.560 You see what I'm saying?

00:32:17.660 Yeah.

00:32:17.740 That's that's a that's a big that's a big issue because Epstein was not an independent actor.

00:32:25.760 He was not.

00:32:26.660 He wasn't operative.

00:32:27.740 He was unleashed on the world by a government.

00:32:31.820 You know what I'm saying?

00:32:32.740 And all of these connections to Russia, pharmaceutical companies, mathematicians, scientists, entertainers, politicians, banker.

00:32:43.460 He had his fingers in a lot of pies, pun intended.

00:32:47.780 And and the reason his influence was so broad and and the reason he tried to corrupt so many people from so many various walks of life was because.

00:33:00.760 It almost seems as if he was trying to aggregate like influence over all different kinds of aspects of society so that when the time comes for Israel to need something from these people.

00:33:17.200 They've already got the top dogs corrupted and blackmailed.

00:33:20.620 And so whatever you guys need, whatever Israel needs, he'll be able to affect or influence a decision because he's already corrupted people in those positions of power.

00:33:30.440 You see what I'm saying?

00:33:31.500 That's why his his op was so broad, bro.

00:33:37.060 So broad.

00:33:37.660 That's why you have Stephen Hawking is on.

00:33:39.840 Right.

00:33:40.620 You don't bring that dude around for like because he's the life of the freaking party.

00:33:44.820 You don't bring that guy around for like you could like laugh at him and throw water balloons or something.

00:33:50.080 You know what I mean?

00:33:50.620 While he's like hooking up with midgets or whatever he was into.

00:33:53.340 I think it was midgets.

00:33:55.460 But you bring him around because he's extremely influential in the scientific community.

00:34:02.760 You know what I'm saying?

00:34:03.360 You bring Bill Gates around not because you want to hear him talk about his freaking stock holdings and about Microsoft.

00:34:10.340 You bring him around because he pushes pharmaceutical drugs and because he and because he's very influential.

00:34:19.640 You know what I'm saying?

00:34:22.220 So this is why his influence was so freaking broad.

00:34:25.440 It was strategic.

00:34:26.420 It's an operation.

00:34:28.140 Right.

00:34:28.400 So it's not just by happenstance that he would rub shoulders with these people and then be like, you want to hang out?

00:34:33.620 You know, he targeted specific people.

00:34:37.140 So to see Christians, even like pastors and influencers in the Christian space, call out Epstein and then stop short of who unleashed Epstein and who he was actually working for, to me, is an extreme, extreme like manipulation of reality.

00:34:55.120 It's borderline like misinformation.

00:34:57.100 You know what I mean?

00:34:57.560 Look at that meeting that happened.

00:35:01.820 I forget his name.

00:35:03.880 His name is Mike Huckabee.

00:35:06.200 He's the ambassador to Israel and he met with like a thousand prominent evangelical pastors in Israel and he's telling them in a closed door meeting how to shepherd their flock in regards to Israel.

00:35:22.300 Not anything else biblical.

00:35:24.360 It's just strictly what we say about Israel.

00:35:27.140 And there's like, yeah, it's damage control.

00:35:28.700 It's damage control.

00:35:29.460 There's an extreme influence.

00:35:30.620 And that coming on the heels of the release of the Epstein files is not a surprise.

00:35:35.420 I mean, in the church that we go to, they're not going to talk about that.

00:35:38.880 No.

00:35:39.100 But they will pray for Israel and Netanyahu to do the correct moves.

00:35:46.040 Yeah, whatever those are.

00:35:47.980 Oh, okay.

00:35:49.240 That's cool.

00:35:50.060 So how's that been working out?

00:35:53.300 Oh, great.

00:35:54.060 A lot of kids dead.

00:35:56.160 A lot of food poison.

00:35:57.960 Yeah, but as far as Israel's influence over the world, yeah, it has been growing.

00:36:02.420 So I will say, listen, if we're going to give them the benefit of the doubt, if we're praying for Israel and Netanyahu, I do pray for them to stop doing what they're doing.

00:36:11.080 So I don't know what they're, you know, I don't know the, they're never specific about the nature of the prayer.

00:36:18.600 Well, that's the church is, I think, a little bit confused oftentimes.

00:36:23.160 But I think the way that when we talked to Mabry and he laid it out as like blessings and curses are spiritual things.

00:36:29.700 And so a blessing, if I were to bless Israel, it would be to.

00:36:33.840 You know who gave us a blessing?

00:36:34.760 I think Sean from Kingdom in Context.

00:36:36.640 Over and over again with the encouragement.

00:36:38.520 Well, not just encouragement, but he said, in five years, your guy's show will be tremendous.

00:36:43.420 Yeah, that's huge.

00:36:44.080 That's called a blessing.

00:36:45.220 Like I noticed it right away.

00:36:46.700 Speaking life over a thing.

00:36:48.580 Whether it happens or not.

00:36:50.480 The fact that he put that out there, that's called a blessing.

00:36:53.820 If I said, David, you're going to die in six days.

00:36:56.660 Or to say something to the effect of like, I hope X, Y, Z happens to like.

00:37:06.080 Or not just hope, but like this will happen to you.

00:37:08.720 A blessing over Israel would be to say, I pray that Israel, that Netanyahu, they come to the realization that Jesus Christ was the real Messiah.

00:37:19.060 And they pick up their crosses, they follow Jesus, they repent for their sins, and then salvation is available for them.

00:37:26.640 That all of them go there and they live happily in Israel and they stop.

00:37:31.600 Yeah, I just, I pray that they stop.

00:37:33.020 Yeah, that's a great blessing.

00:37:34.020 I pray that you stop carpet bombing Gaza and stop using us as an attack dog to get into wars with your enemies in the Middle East would be a great.

00:37:44.240 But that's not the prayers that we're getting, bro.

00:37:48.240 No, no way.

00:37:48.920 It's a good prayer.

00:37:49.700 The thing is, well, I agree, it's a good prayer.

00:37:52.920 We should be praying that for Israel.

00:37:55.500 We should be praying that for America, Palestine, Iran, Russia, China.

00:38:01.080 Make a list of countries you should be praying that over, right?

00:38:03.800 This is not something specific we are called to pray for in regards to Israel.

00:38:09.280 I will bless Israel or I will bless those who bless Israel exists nowhere in the Bible.

00:38:15.000 That's a misquotation of Genesis 12.

00:38:18.240 I'll read it to you.

00:38:19.200 This is the funniest thing you've ever seen.

00:38:21.480 And Huckabee says this.

00:38:24.140 Ted Cruz said this on Tucker Carlson.

00:38:25.940 Tucker Carlson freaking laughed at him and made fun of him, right?

00:38:28.140 Okay, so it comes from, this is where the misquotation comes from, Genesis 12, and I'll start in verse

00:38:35.880 one.

00:38:36.140 Now the Lord said to Abraham, go from your country and your kindred and your father's house to

00:38:44.760 the land that I will show you, and I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and

00:38:51.520 make your name great so that you will be a blessing.

00:38:55.700 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you, I will curse.

00:39:02.320 And in you, all the families of the earth will be blessed.

00:39:05.940 So Abraham went, as the Lord had told him, and Lot went with him, yada, yada, yada.

00:39:10.800 This is a passage specifically speaking of Abraham.

00:39:15.480 And guess what happened?

00:39:16.560 Keep reading the story.

00:39:17.280 We know the story of Abraham, but keep reading it.

00:39:19.720 Abraham goes out, and the kings that he encounters who were good to Abraham, God was good to and

00:39:27.040 blessed.

00:39:27.920 The kings who were bad to Abraham, like trying to rape his wife, got cursed and punished,

00:39:35.300 so much so that the king woke up and he's like, what have you done to me?

00:39:38.220 Your God is punishing me.

00:39:39.440 Take your wife and go.

00:39:40.800 You know what I'm saying?

00:39:41.820 So it's literally fulfilled in Abraham.

00:39:45.340 Whoever was good to Abraham, God blessed.

00:39:46.940 Whoever was bad to Abraham, God got cursed and punished.

00:39:49.640 So then to read into that passage that when he says, whoever honors you, I will bless, and

00:39:57.120 whoever dishonors you, I will curse or whatnot, to read the current state of Israel into that.

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00:40:18.860 It's an adulteration of the text.

00:40:20.740 Okay.

00:40:21.140 It is false teaching.

00:40:23.100 And it is only being used for political ends.

00:40:26.420 And I don't think that's what scripture is intended for.

00:40:29.200 You know what I'm saying?

00:40:30.840 Amen.

00:40:31.160 Ben, that should be a clip.

00:40:32.480 Yeah, we're clipping that.

00:40:32.940 Put a timestamp on that.

00:40:34.980 Well, that was a-

00:40:35.860 You just got canceled, Ben.

00:40:36.820 How do you feel?

00:40:37.540 This is why he said-

00:40:38.760 I feel great.

00:40:39.480 Are you sure you want me to say these things on the show?

00:40:41.760 Great.

00:40:42.260 We just got pulled off of YouTube.

00:40:43.260 It goes pretty deep because the only people, I shouldn't say the only people, the only Christians

00:40:56.260 who are obsessed, obsessed with support of Israel and the Jewish people, it's a particular

00:41:05.120 theological system called, or interpretive system, called dispensationalism.

00:41:11.420 These are the Christians that are responsible for perpetrating this misrepresentation of the

00:41:19.340 text where we become idolaters to Israel, right?

00:41:23.820 It's almost equivalent to the same way Catholics worship Mary, even though they say we don't

00:41:30.540 worship Mary.

00:41:31.400 It's the same thing with evangelicalism.

00:41:33.520 They worship Israel, even though they say they don't worship Israel.

00:41:36.660 You know what I'm saying?

00:41:38.160 And it's this system.

00:41:39.880 Are you guys familiar with dispensationalism?

00:41:41.780 I could definitely use an overview on that.

00:41:44.180 Let it rip.

00:41:45.200 Okay.

00:41:45.700 So dispensationalism is like the standard vanilla evangelical Christian perspective of the

00:41:51.680 day.

00:41:51.900 It was, um, it was systematized in 1830 by John Darby.

00:41:58.900 Okay.

00:41:59.520 And the disbies, I call them disbies.

00:42:01.740 This isn't a pejorative.

00:42:02.640 That's just short for dispensationalism because that's way too long, too long to say every

00:42:06.320 freaking time.

00:42:06.840 Okay.

00:42:07.380 So the disbies will say, no, it wasn't dispensationalism existed long before Darby.

00:42:12.280 No, it didn't individual tenants of dispensationalism existed since the early church, but the system,

00:42:20.780 the interpretive system itself was synthesized by Darby in 1830.

00:42:25.220 Okay.

00:42:25.600 And basically its primary tenants are that God worked throughout history in different dispensations.

00:42:34.560 Okay.

00:42:34.980 No big deal there.

00:42:35.800 We all agree.

00:42:36.400 God worked in different ways throughout history.

00:42:37.840 Right.

00:42:38.080 That's what I, I mean, as when, when people say dispensationalism, I know exactly what

00:42:43.060 you're talking about with the theological side of it and how people have goofed it up, but

00:42:47.440 I still do like the term because there's no better way to understand like, yeah, and maybe

00:42:53.380 he does a great job of talking about this.

00:42:55.220 Yeah.

00:42:55.320 God dealt with Adam and Eve very differently than he dealt with, uh, Moses or, uh, Noah

00:43:01.840 right after he's walking with them.

00:43:03.420 Right.

00:43:03.860 And then they pushed out of the garden.

00:43:05.300 Then he's just, then he's kind of there talking to them.

00:43:07.560 And as the dispensations continue on, we get to the point where we're left with just the

00:43:12.820 Holy spirit right now in the age of the church.

00:43:15.000 Right.

00:43:15.420 So like before that, uh, God was walking with us through Jesus Christ.

00:43:19.120 And before that God was walking with us with the prophets.

00:43:21.760 So now it's like, he is dealing with us in a different way.

00:43:25.940 It almost seems like, I like the way that Mabry lays it out where it's like, he is continually

00:43:31.000 trying.

00:43:32.600 He's like very gracious, very forgiving, very patient.

00:43:35.440 He's like, we are, we are pushing him away.

00:43:37.260 Yeah.

00:43:37.440 And he's like, well, what if I, what if I try this way?

00:43:39.600 What if my spirit dwells within you?

00:43:41.000 What if my son walks among you?

00:43:42.780 I totally believe that there, there's no argument.

00:43:45.360 Even the word dispensation, dispensation is in the Bible multiple times.

00:43:50.680 And it's not, yeah, it's a biblical concept.

00:44:04.380 There's no denying it, but, but, but listen, the system of dispensationalism is something

00:44:11.720 completely different than just using a biblical term and equating it to your system.

00:44:17.480 Right.

00:44:18.340 So you have to distinguish between those two just because they coined it dispensationalism

00:44:24.240 and the word dispensation is in the Bible.

00:44:26.140 It doesn't mean everything they believe in their system is accurate.

00:44:29.420 You see what I'm saying?

00:44:30.640 I wonder how many people would hear to that.

00:44:32.280 And they would also be like, I truthfully don't know what that word means.

00:44:36.060 So dispensation.

00:44:37.600 Yeah.

00:44:38.060 The outline of the biblical uses would be the management of a household or of household affairs,

00:44:43.120 specifically the management, oversight, administration of others' property.

00:44:48.160 So that's actually very interesting when, when you're looking at it.

00:44:52.660 I guess like, yeah.

00:44:53.760 Not helpful.

00:44:54.460 A landlord.

00:44:55.900 Top, top, pull up, pull up mentions of the word dispensation in the Bible.

00:45:00.260 Pull it up.

00:45:00.660 In context, it will make sense because guess what?

00:45:03.100 The management of whatever he just said is God's way of handling his own subjects and property.

00:45:08.920 Okay, okay.

00:45:09.640 Which is, which is us and humanity and reality and history.

00:45:13.380 It's God.

00:45:15.140 Go ahead.

00:45:16.760 Oh yeah.

00:45:17.100 So for if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward.

00:45:19.400 But if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed upon, unto me.

00:45:25.240 Exemption from a rule or, or usual requirement.

00:45:28.560 So exemption from the usual requirement.

00:45:30.860 So is this to say that each, each, uh, incursion of dispensation means that, uh, you know, the Israelites or, or those of us who are grafted onto the branch are no longer, uh, we are exempted from the previous set of rules.

00:45:46.620 So like if we're under grace, we're no longer.

00:45:50.520 What's that?

00:45:51.460 That's a new dispensation.

00:45:52.620 So God was working in a particular way with Israel, right?

00:45:56.980 The tree.

00:45:57.920 And now he has grafted in via grace, the Gentiles.

00:46:03.420 This is now called the church age.

00:46:05.600 This is the new dispensation in which God is acting.

00:46:09.000 There are not two simultaneous dispensations.

00:46:12.040 There are not two covenants at the moment where God has a chosen people, Israel, through which he has, uh, uh, a modus operandi, a dispensation that he's working by for salvation and also a separate dispensation for the church through which he is saving via grace in Jesus.

00:46:30.640 There are not two covenants simultaneously existing.

00:46:34.420 There's only a covenant of grace.

00:46:36.440 It is the new one.

00:46:37.460 It has been, the old one has been replaced by this one.

00:46:40.080 Christ fulfilled the old covenant and now grafts everybody in, including the faithful Jews.

00:46:47.040 There's no salvation outside of Christ.

00:46:48.580 We all agree to this, right?

00:46:50.020 Right, right, right.

00:46:50.840 Okay.

00:46:51.020 That's the dispensation we're in.

00:46:52.940 Okay.

00:46:53.460 So it's just the way God operates within human history for his people.

00:46:59.500 Okay.

00:47:00.060 That's the idea, the biblical concept of dispensationalism.

00:47:03.520 But here are the other tenants.

00:47:07.600 Okay.

00:47:07.800 That's the first one.

00:47:08.480 That's where the term dispensational comes from.

00:47:10.680 Now, the other primary tenants of dispensationalism is that there is a separation.

00:47:17.520 Currently, still, there is a separation between God's chosen people, Israel, and his actions with them in the future and the church.

00:47:26.460 So there is still a separation between Israel and the church.

00:47:29.260 Another big one, the seven-year tribulation, the literal millennial reign, the pre-trib rapture.

00:47:38.200 Okay.

00:47:38.360 These are all tenants.

00:47:41.400 Why are you laughing?

00:47:42.600 I don't know the way you said it.

00:47:44.280 I was like, hey, hey, we'll spend a lot of time on it.

00:47:49.460 Well, you don't think that maybe – because we have a running theory that if there were to be a pre-trib rapture, it would be like – you know, like the telepathy tape kids?

00:47:57.500 You know how they're like non-speaking, autistic?

00:48:00.920 Yeah.

00:48:01.040 They say they got their abilities.

00:48:03.200 Like Ian Miles, John.

00:48:04.000 Yeah.

00:48:04.240 Well, no.

00:48:04.880 He's one of the bad ones.

00:48:06.460 Oh.

00:48:06.820 He's not – yeah.

00:48:07.600 Because they did – the other autistic kids did say that some of them are bad.

00:48:11.460 Okay.

00:48:11.900 Wow.

00:48:12.440 But like you ever see like the Down syndrome dude with the nunchucks?

00:48:16.840 Like that guy, he would be like pre-trib rapture I think would be – if it did happen at all, that maybe it would be reserved for people who like actually – because I do think like –

00:48:29.220 So like I said, the telepathy tape kids said that the reason they have access to this – I would argue it's because you have been a vaccine injured and thereby have disassociated because of the inability to have your body function with you.

00:48:46.040 And that's why you have access to this psychic realm.

00:48:49.440 But they say it's because they never lied.

00:48:51.560 They've never committed the sin of lying.

00:48:55.460 And because lying is within a social context, right?

00:49:00.020 So what is your theory on it then?

00:49:02.440 Well, if they've never even lied, which is a fundamental thing that even a child does, right?

00:49:08.120 Let's say that is an actual spiritual sin.

00:49:11.080 Even when a child is lying, they're committing the base form spiritual sin.

00:49:16.760 If they've never done that, dog, maybe you get pre-trib raptured first in life.

00:49:21.240 Where does this guy go?

00:49:22.260 That's what I'm saying.

00:49:22.960 That guy?

00:49:23.500 Pre-trib rapture.

00:49:24.220 Let me just quote.

00:49:27.020 Also, that's how you get a fungal bloom in your pool.

00:49:29.600 Oh, my God.

00:49:30.200 This cat.

00:49:30.800 It's the worst, dude.

00:49:32.000 Your pool is ruined.

00:49:34.380 Let me just read you something that you might want to throw into that mix.

00:49:38.660 Romans 3.23.

00:49:40.140 For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

00:49:43.760 It doesn't matter if you are mentally handicapped.

00:49:47.320 It doesn't matter what age you are.

00:49:49.840 We are all born in Adam.

00:49:54.360 Fair.

00:49:54.640 And Adam is our federal head.

00:49:56.960 We all have a sin nature by birth.

00:50:01.220 Not from our first sin that we ever commit.

00:50:03.640 We commit our first sin because we have a sin nature.

00:50:05.920 You see what I'm saying?

00:50:06.500 We're making an argument that if there were to be a pre-trib rapture, mid-trib rapture, and post-trib rapture, if there had to be tears.

00:50:15.600 These guys deserve it?

00:50:17.120 These guys go first for sure.

00:50:18.600 Those guys go first.

00:50:19.480 Hey, hey, guys.

00:50:20.760 Let's just say.

00:50:21.960 Hey, hey.

00:50:22.420 They're down.

00:50:24.060 They're downs.

00:50:25.620 They're down to go up, baby.

00:50:26.960 They're down to go up.

00:50:27.480 They're downs.

00:50:28.160 No, they're downs for sure.

00:50:29.460 I'm just like, you know, if some shit's really going to go down, I look at these guys and I'm like, man, if God was really merciful, get him out of here.

00:50:41.060 I get it.

00:50:42.800 Listen, the way I put it is I pray for a pre-trib rapture, but I expect not a pre-trib rapture.

00:50:49.340 You know what I'm saying?

00:50:50.460 I expect to go through it.

00:50:52.080 I 100% expect to go through anything that's coming, but all this to say, okay, those are kind of the main primary tenets of dispensationalism, the system.

00:51:04.800 And when I say system, it's an interpretive system of reading the Bible.

00:51:09.460 Sorry to nerd out on this, but it's like it's very important because it leads somewhere, you know?

00:51:14.240 Dude, have you guys ever been to a church in America where they didn't believe in pre-trib rapture, seven-year tribulation, after death we go to heaven, stuff like that?

00:51:30.240 I was in the previous church that I was in, the pastor that kicked me out, preached pre-trib rapture stuff, but didn't believe that.

00:51:39.700 That's fascinating.

00:51:40.500 It was bizarre.

00:51:41.520 What do you mean?

00:51:41.980 And he didn't like the idea of it.

00:51:46.580 Why did he preach it?

00:51:47.300 And he would...

00:51:48.980 Oh, because he was probably getting paid.

00:51:51.880 Hey, so here's the thing.

00:51:54.160 It's the standard belief system with evangelicalism, okay?

00:51:59.420 And these are their conclusions, the things we listed.

00:52:04.520 Pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib rapture varies, but it's primarily pre-trib, okay?

00:52:09.300 Israel, chosen people, church separate, seven-year tribulation, blah, blah, blah, right?

00:52:15.120 Literal millennial reign.

00:52:16.700 Those are conclusions that they've already drawn.

00:52:19.400 They said these things are factual.

00:52:21.300 So then what you do is you go back and filter the entire scripture to fill or fulfill these conclusions they've already come to.

00:52:31.920 You see what I'm saying?

00:52:33.240 It's not, hey, what does the scripture say and let me come up with my own conclusions, right?

00:52:39.700 As I'm reading, it's, hey, these things are true.

00:52:43.780 How does scripture fit these conclusions?

00:52:46.380 Which to me, that doesn't seem the right way to read stuff.

00:52:49.640 There are things we know definitively, right?

00:52:53.620 Like, Jesus is the only way to salvation.

00:52:58.100 He is God, right?

00:53:00.000 So when you read the scripture, you'll see that organically through the text, repeatedly.

00:53:07.100 It doesn't matter, Old Testament, New Testament, you'll see it, okay?

00:53:10.120 Because it's true.

00:53:11.240 But with dispensationalism, with this list of tenets that I put out there, you have to be influenced to see these things.

00:53:23.180 They're not organic in the text.

00:53:26.180 Somebody has to feed this to you and then show you the text that they're using to come to this conclusion so that then when you read these in the future,

00:53:35.620 you already have the dispensational conclusion in mind when you read them.

00:53:42.040 There's no alternative to what they've told you in your brain.

00:53:46.440 It's as if that filter has been placed over your eyes and now all of the text concludes in dispensationalism.

00:53:53.980 You see what I'm saying?

00:53:55.180 And interestingly enough, like I said, the system was synthesized and popularized in the 1830s by John Darby.

00:54:03.260 And it became the standard, the standard evangelical form of interpretation.

00:54:10.460 Before that, from first church to 1830, it was not dispensationalism.

00:54:19.740 So for, what is that, almost 2,000 years?

00:54:23.160 It was amillennialism.

00:54:26.100 It was preterism.

00:54:28.120 Those were the historic perspectives on these things, okay?

00:54:31.200 So all that to say, there's different opinions on these things.

00:54:35.860 Dispensationalists don't have like a monopoly on truth when it comes to this stuff.

00:54:39.780 Because for almost 2,000 years, these guys would have been considered heretics.

00:54:43.380 You know what I'm saying?

00:54:44.180 But now it's flipped.

00:54:45.600 Now dispensationalism is the standard and they consider everybody else heretics that don't agree with them, which is really ironic.

00:54:51.440 But when I bring up pre-trib or when I emphasize pre-trib, okay, personally, I don't believe in a pre-trib rapture at all.

00:55:02.260 I don't think the text supports it.

00:55:04.620 I don't believe that the verses they're using, there's no time reference as to when a rapture will happen in the Bible.

00:55:12.980 It doesn't say before a tribulation.

00:55:15.240 That doesn't exist anywhere in the Bible.

00:55:17.780 All it says is that we'll be caught up in the clouds and then be forever with the Lord.

00:55:23.460 That's it.

00:55:23.980 That's the reference.

00:55:24.880 So there is a rapture.

00:55:26.740 Putting it before the tribulation, that's dispensationalism.

00:55:30.020 You see what I'm saying?

00:55:31.480 So for me, and we could pull up the verses if you guys want.

00:55:34.880 We could pull up the verses and nerd out.

00:55:36.620 I don't know how much time you guys got.

00:55:38.460 We got time.

00:55:39.380 It does seem to me that the pre-trib rapture is a lot of, maybe this is too reductive, but like Cope, it feels that way.

00:55:48.600 You know, it's like, I don't want to go through this thing.

00:55:50.700 And I think it's more representative of the softness of modern day, not just Christians, but just people in a first world country.

00:56:00.700 We're so detached from suffering in any way, shape, or form.

00:56:05.580 And we can't quantify in our childlike minds why on earth we would have to suffer, why a God who loves us would allow us to suffer.

00:56:16.640 But it's putting your own understanding, especially, you know, our brains are jelly.

00:56:21.900 So it's putting our own jelly-brained understanding on God, the creator of the universe, who exists outside of this physical boundary that we exist within, exists outside of time and space, created everything, created you, knew you in your mother's womb before you were born.

00:56:38.480 And somehow, you know, we're going to put whatever 30, 40 years of wisdom has imparted on us, on God, the creator.

00:56:49.340 And rather than say, how could I possibly understand, you know, what God means to do, we go, he wouldn't make us up.

00:56:58.860 We'll probably get, I think we'll probably get pulled out of here before.

00:57:01.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:01.760 Dude, we're super special.

00:57:03.400 We're super, super special.

00:57:05.100 Jesus suffered, died for our sins.

00:57:07.640 The apostles, every single one, imprisoned, tortured, suffered, died for our sins.

00:57:12.040 The early Christian church, not for our sins, I'm sorry.

00:57:14.880 The early Christian church, martyred, executed Roman candles, fed to lions, doesn't matter.

00:57:20.020 But we are so freaking special that God would never let us suffer.

00:57:27.420 Why would we suffer?

00:57:29.420 Do you know who I am?

00:57:31.020 It's a joke.

00:57:31.840 It's a joke.

00:57:32.520 What other religions or experiences are we led to believe that, like, we are super special?

00:57:38.300 I mean, we are special within, you know, we're all-

00:57:41.120 Well, that God loves us.

00:57:42.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:43.460 Right.

00:57:43.720 But special enough to not suffer?

00:57:46.400 Like, this is the point of humanity.

00:57:48.580 It's not even about being special.

00:57:50.600 It literally says, count it joy when you face tribulation and trials, because it produces

00:57:57.400 a certain thing.

00:57:58.760 We're told it's a blessing repeatedly to suffer for Christ, but God's going to hold that away

00:58:03.480 from us.

00:58:04.220 We're not.

00:58:04.760 He's going to keep that blessing from us, because he would never let us suffer.

00:58:08.060 It says, freaking who?

00:58:08.920 What Bible are you reading, you weirdos?

00:58:10.460 Well, suffering in general is, you know, you talk about the fractal nature of the universe

00:58:15.240 or the spiritual principle of, like, as above, so below.

00:58:19.780 Suffering in general seems to be this refining fire that turns you from one thing into something

00:58:27.540 more.

00:58:28.780 And it's interesting because the people that don't want to suffer, they think they're

00:58:33.000 going to get pre-tripped.

00:58:34.020 You can often look at them and say, like, well, you've removed yourself from suffering.

00:58:38.160 And because you've removed yourself from suffering, whatever that looks like in your life, you

00:58:45.580 have experienced a decline, cognitively, character-wise.

00:58:50.940 There's an atrophy.

00:58:51.940 An atrophy, yeah.

00:58:52.920 Whereas, you know, suffering, like I, when I talk to God, I, you know, we get to do this,

00:58:57.720 and this is unbelievable, right?

00:58:59.540 I get to drive into the shop and have conversations with guys like you and help people in their walk

00:59:05.980 and point towards Christ, and especially during this time, that's unbelievable.

00:59:10.760 Unbelievable.

00:59:11.300 I'm incredibly grateful.

00:59:12.640 I also know that I still am not, but was definitely not shit before.

00:59:18.920 I was homeless.

00:59:19.820 I was eating out of dumpsters.

00:59:21.720 And I'm so grateful for that because that's a refining fire, right?

00:59:26.480 Like, I don't know if you ever met somebody who hasn't suffered.

00:59:29.880 It's pretty off-putting.

00:59:31.920 Oh, for sure.

00:59:32.820 There's something really, whatever they're lacking, only suffering can give it to them.

00:59:41.760 And so since they are in this state of being absent of suffering, it makes them unreachable,

00:59:48.920 off-putting, and almost like you have to just move away from this person because until they

00:59:56.220 suffer, which is the only thing that can give them this thing, I don't know what it is,

01:00:00.780 I don't know how to define it, a refining fire, whatever.

01:00:03.180 Moxie.

01:00:03.860 Moxie.

01:00:04.320 Give them some moxie.

01:00:06.940 Build their character.

01:00:08.860 Until they reach that point, it's hard to even interact with them.

01:00:12.800 And so, yeah, I think that we've built up a fascinating thing here in the West.

01:00:17.460 Everything is geared towards keeping us from suffering.

01:00:19.560 It's comfort.

01:00:21.080 It's comfort, right?

01:00:22.620 That's the same reason we won't rebel when COVID happens.

01:00:26.420 That's the same reason we won't rebel when Epstein files are released.

01:00:29.700 It's because we're comfortable.

01:00:31.320 We're fat.

01:00:32.260 We're lazy.

01:00:33.260 We expect somebody else to do it for us.

01:00:35.320 We have a savior complex.

01:00:36.760 That's why we vote for Trump, you know, who doesn't do shit.

01:00:40.300 This is America.

01:00:41.980 This is that song.

01:00:42.860 This is America.

01:00:44.180 You know, we should do like an evangelical remix of that.

01:00:47.000 But that's the problem.

01:00:48.340 We're so plugged into this matrix that we're scared to unplug and pull the plug.

01:00:54.580 You know what I'm saying?

01:00:55.100 Because the whole system will collapse.

01:00:56.700 And I have a mortgage and I need to feed my kids.

01:00:59.560 And there's no way to do that if I rebel against the system.

01:01:02.840 You know what I'm saying?

01:01:03.380 Yeah, there's also this idea like, if I were to sell dispensationalism to a generation, I'd sell it to the boomer class today.

01:01:14.680 They're all the tropes.

01:01:16.240 For sure.

01:01:17.000 I mean, they're out there right now.

01:01:18.640 Yeah, right outside this door.

01:01:19.880 They're 100% true about them.

01:01:21.620 We had own Benjamin come here and I put him in the villages on purpose in the hotel in the villages.

01:01:29.360 And I said, walk around, take a look.

01:01:32.620 And within a day, he wrote an entire like it was like a seven minute song to Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville, where he just improv'd on what he saw here.

01:01:42.940 Baby Boomerville.

01:01:43.740 It was so hilarious.

01:01:44.760 Baby Boomerville.

01:01:45.340 And he absolutely nailed it.

01:01:47.260 Like, feed in my flesh again in Baby Boomerville.

01:01:50.100 Yeah.

01:01:50.120 Yeah.

01:01:50.400 What is it?

01:01:51.200 Avoiding my kids again in Baby Boomerville.

01:01:54.400 Just very, very funny crap.

01:01:56.060 But it is, it's like, it's decadence and it's people that they've built up this place.

01:02:00.820 And really, you know, a place has been built for them, inviting them into Boomer Disney World.

01:02:06.420 And it's like people that are desperately trying to pretend that death is not on the horizon.

01:02:12.900 Some people say that it's the Jews.

01:02:16.160 Who's something to blame?

01:02:17.800 It's the Jews.

01:02:18.700 But I know.

01:02:19.540 And he goes, it's never the Jews.

01:02:20.920 It's never the Jews.

01:02:22.260 And that's how this went against.

01:02:23.280 It was crazy.

01:02:24.920 Absolutely nailed it.

01:02:25.760 But that's the, that is the target demographic for dispensationalism, the flavor that we're

01:02:31.260 getting right now, at least.

01:02:32.840 Yeah.

01:02:33.120 Isn't that death being so close, you know, in just the grand scheme of things, age and

01:02:37.840 everything, is on the horizon that it's, it's a hijacking of a human mechanism that, that

01:02:44.660 desires to put that off, to not look at it.

01:02:46.960 And the more you turn away from it, rather than embrace this thing that is inevitability

01:02:51.340 that all of mankind has had to deal with, if you do set yourself against it, it leads to

01:02:59.140 madness.

01:02:59.460 It leads to building this thing.

01:03:01.100 It leads to pushing your children away.

01:03:03.240 It leads to hoarding gold.

01:03:05.220 It leads to adrenochrome ingestion.

01:03:07.520 You know, that's, that's what this all is.

01:03:10.060 And so this fear of death and suffering from a Christian's perspective is no different than

01:03:16.560 Epstein.

01:03:18.200 You know, how funny is that?

01:03:19.520 It comes from the same hole in the soul.

01:03:22.020 You know what I'm saying?

01:03:23.320 Um, and, and a bro, and that's preacher rapture.

01:03:28.240 Okay.

01:03:28.840 And the verse they'll use, they have others, but this is the only one.

01:03:33.440 And this is funnily, funny enough.

01:03:35.980 This is the main one.

01:03:36.780 That's what I should say.

01:03:37.680 But it's the same verse that everybody uses when they come up with their own theory about

01:03:41.540 when the rapture is.

01:03:42.960 Okay.

01:03:43.840 Uh, and it's in the, the, the, let me see.

01:03:48.440 Uh, first Corinthians four 13.

01:03:51.860 This is, you'll, you'll recognize this instantly, right?

01:03:54.840 This is the rapture's passage.

01:03:55.940 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in

01:04:01.860 death so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind who have no hope for we believe

01:04:08.700 that.

01:04:08.880 Which one is it?

01:04:09.640 Yeah, where are we at?

01:04:10.380 First Corinthians four verse 13.

01:04:13.640 Okay.

01:04:14.740 Oh, I'm in the wrong one.

01:04:16.080 Are we in the wrong one?

01:04:16.800 First Corinthians four 13.

01:04:18.400 Yeah.

01:04:18.720 Are you sure?

01:04:19.340 Being defamed.

01:04:20.480 We intrigued.

01:04:21.680 First Thessalonians.

01:04:23.020 I was writing first Thessalonians as well.

01:04:27.160 Okay.

01:04:27.760 Pull this up so everybody can see.

01:04:30.140 Sorry.

01:04:31.300 That's all good.

01:04:32.320 Okay.

01:04:32.520 There it is.

01:04:33.000 Boom.

01:04:33.760 Okay.

01:04:34.460 So first 13 brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep

01:04:40.160 in death so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind who have no hope for we believe

01:04:46.580 that Jesus died and rose again so even Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God

01:04:53.160 will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him according to the Lord's word

01:05:00.820 we tell you that we who are still alive who are left until the coming of the Lord will certainly

01:05:10.880 not precede those who have fallen asleep for the Lord God and the dead in Christ will rise

01:05:19.260 first.

01:05:20.080 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in

01:05:27.820 the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so we will be with the Lord forever.

01:05:34.120 Therefore, encourage one another with these words.

01:05:35.940 Okay.

01:05:36.360 So this is the primary passage about a rapture used by pre-tribulation folk.

01:05:43.300 When does this happen according to the text?

01:05:46.700 When does that happen?

01:05:47.940 I am new to scripture over these last few years and so it could be my own failure to

01:05:56.040 familiarize myself with it.

01:05:57.760 I couldn't I was looking for that.

01:05:58.920 I couldn't really tell what it was there.

01:06:01.260 Well, we were I was reading the we had King James pulled up on the on the screen and you

01:06:05.720 were reading from what was it?

01:06:07.880 ESP.

01:06:09.020 ESP.

01:06:09.640 So but I couldn't really.

01:06:11.020 I didn't catch it.

01:06:13.140 Okay.

01:06:14.860 ESV.

01:06:15.820 ESV.

01:06:16.260 It's like Dennis keeps saying chat.

01:06:18.720 G.

01:06:19.680 G.B.T.

01:06:20.880 T.S.C.

01:06:21.720 He's so fired.

01:06:24.400 Okay.

01:06:25.440 Bro.

01:06:25.900 No, no.

01:06:26.400 David, you're not new to anything.

01:06:27.820 We read the passage.

01:06:29.160 It doesn't say when that happens.

01:06:32.080 Okay.

01:06:32.480 It just tells you that this event will occur.

01:06:36.360 Right.

01:06:37.060 That's it.

01:06:37.700 So why do people take that and place it before the tribulation?

01:06:44.380 Because I don't want to suffer, dog.

01:06:46.280 Because you don't want to suffer.

01:06:47.320 There's actually zero indicators in the Bible as to when the tribulation happens.

01:06:53.380 There's some inklings that it's more than likely after the or actually I should say at

01:07:01.760 the great white throne judgment, which is at the end of time.

01:07:04.340 Do you want me to read that one?

01:07:05.580 This is, in my opinion, like the greatest indicator as to when the rapture happens.

01:07:09.580 Do you want me to read it?

01:07:10.740 Yeah.

01:07:10.920 Okay.

01:07:11.760 Revelation 20.

01:07:16.520 Verses 11.

01:07:18.600 Or verse 11.

01:07:19.960 And then I'll read a little bit beyond that.

01:07:26.120 Okay.

01:07:26.480 And I saw a great white throne and him that sat on it from whose face the earth and the

01:07:33.120 heaven fled away and there was found no place for them.

01:07:37.180 And I saw the dead small and great stand before God and the books were opened and another book

01:07:41.600 was opened, which is the book of life.

01:07:44.120 And the dead were judged out of those things, which were written in the books and according

01:07:47.740 to their works.

01:07:48.860 And the sea gave up the dead, which were in it.

01:07:50.980 So this is like the, this where we're, we're hinting at this post-trip sort of thing, right?

01:07:56.500 Uh, well, first off in the middle of verse 11, right there, we've got different translations

01:08:01.900 pulled up in mine.

01:08:03.020 It says the earth and heavens fled from his presence.

01:08:06.360 You guys know the, or are you familiar with the reference, like, um, that the heavens

01:08:12.660 are wrapped up like a scroll that he eliminates the old earth and creates a new earth and

01:08:18.200 a new heaven.

01:08:18.960 And then we spend eternity with Christ on the new earth.

01:08:24.140 We don't spend eternity with Christ in heaven.

01:08:26.240 Are you guys are familiar with this?

01:08:28.960 Yeah.

01:08:29.600 Okay, good.

01:08:30.480 You would be surprised how many Christians believe we spend eternity with, with God in

01:08:35.920 heaven.

01:08:36.700 And they don't read revelation 21, which says that there's a new heaven and a new earth.

01:08:41.620 And he descends from heaven with the new Jerusalem.

01:08:45.820 It descends on earth and he rules from the new Jerusalem for all eternity with us on the

01:08:51.160 new earth.

01:08:51.900 That, that, that's eternity for Christians.

01:08:54.220 We do not spend eternity in heaven.

01:08:56.560 That's why it's funny.

01:08:58.380 Pre-tribulation says we escape tribulation.

01:09:02.580 We escape suffering.

01:09:03.700 We go to heaven for seven years.

01:09:05.360 Then we come back down for the millennial reign for a thousand years.

01:09:09.640 Then there's the judgment that we just read, the great white throne judgment.

01:09:13.240 So we go back up for judgment and then come back down to the new earth for eternity.

01:09:17.560 What?

01:09:17.960 When you lay it out like that, it sounds kind of ridiculous.

01:09:23.280 What?

01:09:23.440 Why would we go to heaven only to then come back down to earth?

01:09:28.620 Wouldn't I just want to be in heaven?

01:09:30.440 Like I'm already with God.

01:09:32.280 Right.

01:09:32.640 You see what I'm saying?

01:09:34.560 We're already in the presence of God for seven years.

01:09:37.120 And now he's like, okay, guys, party's over.

01:09:38.700 We got to go back to earth where there's actually in the millennial reign, pre-tribulate.

01:09:42.560 I'm sorry.

01:09:43.340 Dispensationalists will say this.

01:09:44.660 There's still sin.

01:09:46.580 There's still death.

01:09:48.440 Satan is then later released at the end of the thousand years and deceives the nations

01:09:52.700 again.

01:09:53.020 And we get to be right back, dab, smack in the middle of it.

01:09:56.440 That's awesome.

01:09:57.380 I can't wait for that.

01:09:59.360 Or-

01:09:59.440 Oh, that's the little seasoners thing too.

01:10:03.820 Well, they take that a particular way and come to a really silly conclusion.

01:10:09.800 But dispensationalists believe exactly what I just laid out.

01:10:13.380 You know what I'm saying?

01:10:13.940 Um, or, or there is one rapture event, which is at the judgment day, the great white throne

01:10:24.640 judgment, where like we read in Thessalonians, Christ is coming down in the clouds.

01:10:31.400 He never comes to earth.

01:10:32.440 Okay.

01:10:32.920 And it says the dead in Christ are coming with him.

01:10:36.100 And then we are caught up with them to be with him forever.

01:10:41.360 Where are we with God forever or with Christ forever on the new earth?

01:10:48.700 You see what I'm saying?

01:10:50.400 So like this to me is, is probably one of the biggest like deceptions within Christianity.

01:10:58.920 And I don't want to, but I feel like I have to like war against dispensationalism because

01:11:05.860 it's setting us up for failure, bros, for massive, massive failure.

01:11:10.400 It's escapism, you know, it's, uh, I don't even know why people are like, why are Christians

01:11:16.940 obsessed with Trump if they think everything has to get worse and the world has to go to

01:11:21.080 shit?

01:11:22.460 Well, that's a lot of my questioning when it comes to even the whole Epstein thing.

01:11:28.920 It's like, I, like I was saying at the top of the show, it's a really unpopular opinion.

01:11:33.020 If I should say, are we called to save the world?

01:11:37.620 Are we called to mobilize and rid the world of a satanic cabal that traffics children and

01:11:41.620 all this other crap?

01:11:42.380 And then, and then what is like, is that what the Bible tells us is even going to happen?

01:11:47.920 Because I'm pretty sure the world keeps worlding all the way to the tribulation.

01:11:54.020 You know what I mean?

01:11:54.680 It's like from the jump to now, they've been, you know, trafficking children, worshiping false

01:12:01.600 idols and gods and making slaves of men, et cetera, et cetera.

01:12:06.520 Um, I don't see anywhere in scripture where we're called to, to rectify that.

01:12:11.000 And, um, and people get really upset about that, but it's the same thing.

01:12:14.020 Yeah.

01:12:14.160 With Trump or anything else, it's like, I look around and I go, it looks very much like we're

01:12:19.460 in end times prophecy.

01:12:20.380 And it's just my opinion.

01:12:21.940 I mean, I get every generation thought that they were there and maybe I'm an idiot, you

01:12:25.480 know, so my word doesn't, I believe you, I agree with you, bro.

01:12:29.200 I actually do think that there is an end times upon us.

01:12:33.340 Okay.

01:12:34.900 But I don't think it's because this is, this is going to be, this is going to sound crazy.

01:12:39.560 I don't think it's because it's what organically would have happened had dispensationalism not

01:12:49.420 existed.

01:12:50.600 Oh, that's interesting.

01:12:51.980 Listen, I mean, I'm trying to, I'm trying to verbalize it.

01:12:55.000 Okay.

01:12:55.160 It's a, it's, it sounds weird even in my head.

01:12:57.680 So if, if dispensationalism didn't exist, I don't think the end times would look like

01:13:05.820 what they're going to look like.

01:13:07.060 Okay.

01:13:07.340 I actually think in God's foreknowledge and prophecy, he incorporated the dispensational

01:13:14.720 deception into his prophecy.

01:13:17.620 Okay.

01:13:18.020 And I'll give you, I'll give you examples.

01:13:19.740 I know it sounds insane, but hear me out.

01:13:22.080 Without dispensationalism, Israel would never exist as a nation.

01:13:26.560 Okay.

01:13:27.080 Historically, we're talking about Balfour Declaration post-World War I, right?

01:13:34.940 Dispensationalism was already the rage in England and in America.

01:13:39.120 And there were dispensationalists or disby, what are they called, politicians who thought

01:13:47.220 Israel has to become a nation again.

01:13:50.220 That's what dispensationalism says.

01:13:52.080 And so they colluded to give Israel back their land.

01:13:58.000 This is the Balfour Declaration.

01:13:59.960 Okay.

01:14:00.300 And the people behind it in England and America were dispensationalists.

01:14:04.240 Bro, post-war, after World War II, after the Holocaust, who was the president?

01:14:09.440 Roosevelt?

01:14:10.460 Theodore Roosevelt, I believe.

01:14:12.120 I think I'm bad with, I'm bad with the American history.

01:14:14.580 He literally said, I am King Cyrus.

01:14:18.640 Do you guys know who King Cyrus is?

01:14:20.100 Yeah, that's the non, he wasn't Jewish, but he was a king in Israel, right?

01:14:25.500 Or he wasn't even, was he actually a-

01:14:27.100 No, he was a Babylonian.

01:14:28.560 I believe he was a Babylonian.

01:14:30.520 He's the one that gave, or that helped Israel back in the day.

01:14:36.960 And I believe let them go from Babylon to go reestablish their country.

01:14:41.460 So Roosevelt says, I am Cyrus.

01:14:44.400 These guys all knew exactly what they were doing, because they were fulfilling the prophecies.

01:14:52.320 You see what I'm saying?

01:14:53.720 When we had that, sorry, I always feel like it always comes back to this one dude.

01:14:58.460 But when we had that debate with him, and he tried to get slippery at that moment, I took like major offense to that.

01:15:05.560 Which moment?

01:15:06.400 Which slippery moment?

01:15:07.420 Well, I think it was a big one, because he was calling, basically really calling us stupid about this specific thing, where he was saying that, well, you know, dispensationalists would want, they would be against disclosure.

01:15:22.000 They're the Collins elite.

01:15:23.360 And we said, no, no, no, it's the other way around.

01:15:25.440 They like accelerationism.

01:15:26.760 Yeah, they're accelerationists.

01:15:28.400 They are moving towards this, and they're actually creating it.

01:15:32.420 And he was like, boom.

01:15:33.600 Anyway, but I'm just like, man, what a fucking, like, why would he, but he tried to play on like this idea of, I don't know, I guess like the younger generation not liking Israel, and then perverting that idea to slip in his.

01:15:48.040 Yeah.

01:15:48.580 Which was the incorrect assumption.

01:15:50.440 But like, if you, so if you don't know these things, or some historical fact, I guess you'd be like, yeah, Israel bad, like, you know, Israel bad, therefore, and now they're trying to bring about end times, the fulfillment of end times prophecy.

01:16:01.380 Bro, okay, think about it.

01:16:03.040 Think about it.

01:16:03.620 So, so, disbies are the only ones within Christianity that are actively trying to self-fulfill their own prophecies.

01:16:14.200 Okay.

01:16:14.360 I give the, I give the example, World War I, Balfour Declaration, Theodore Roosevelt, post-World War II.

01:16:20.340 Okay.

01:16:21.020 Nowadays, though, nowadays, disbies support this like, unorganic or nonsensical blind support for the nation of Israel, right, the worship of Israel, in my opinion, is strictly based in dispensationalism.

01:16:38.300 Okay, evangelical dispensationalism, and they are donating money to causes like the building of the third temple, right?

01:16:49.220 The building of the third temple is going to be a pagan, satanic synagogue, a temple.

01:16:56.220 It's like donating money to a Hindu temple, a mosque.

01:16:59.900 It's like donating money to anything that worships Satan, because guess what?

01:17:03.740 They're not going to worship Jesus in the third temple, okay?

01:17:09.060 So, third temple is something that Christians are donating money to help finance.

01:17:14.700 Yeah.

01:17:14.880 The breeding of the red heifers to be slaughtered.

01:17:18.400 That moment, then, that red heifer thing was the moment I, because, you know, a lot of the Israel biblical aspect is really new to me.

01:17:29.700 So, the conspiracy side, and I got to admit, even 20 years in the conspiracy realm, it's the Jews was a constant theme, and I would constantly be like, I don't know, I'm not.

01:17:39.580 Me, too.

01:17:40.180 It just seems too blanket, and I would push it to the side.

01:17:42.860 Once I started to really take my walk with Christ and, you know, take Christianity seriously and start looking at it, of course, all these elements pop up, right?

01:17:52.640 You have to now start looking into the temple and Israel and all this other shit, but the red heifer moment in particular was something of a, I don't know if watershed moment is the correct terminology to use here.

01:18:05.400 It was a pivoting point where I was like, oh, there is a real effort to manufacture prophecy, which then, you know, another question sprouts from that is, like, if it's manufactured, is it prophecy?

01:18:22.180 You know what I mean?

01:18:22.840 Like, I don't, that's an interesting thing, because let's say, hypothetically.

01:18:26.120 What did John see?

01:18:27.140 Did he see manufactured prophecy?

01:18:28.640 Bro, but that's why I prefaced this by saying that I believe Christ or God accounted for this in the revelations, okay?

01:18:41.000 Because without this system, nobody would have been there to self-fulfill these prophecies.

01:18:47.480 You see what I'm saying?

01:18:48.960 So it's a system of self-fulfilling prophecies.

01:18:52.020 That's what this is.

01:18:52.860 And the red heifers were bred by dispensationalists in Texas and then sold to the Third Temple Institute or the Temple Institute.

01:19:02.800 And think about that.

01:19:03.760 The fulfillment of prophecy.

01:19:05.620 Okay, so obviously, you know, you're breeding it for the fulfillment of prophecy, but also, like, it's quite a bit of money that they're willing to shell out to you for these heifers.

01:19:14.660 So it's like you're making money off of manufacturing prophecy.

01:19:19.100 Like, what a crazy place to be.

01:19:20.740 Dude, this is what I'm saying.

01:19:23.680 So where in the Bible does it tell us ever to fulfill the prophecies ourselves?

01:19:32.900 Aren't they just supposed to be predictors by God's foreknowledge of what will happen irrelevant of what we do or what we try or what our ambitions are?

01:19:41.680 So I can't say I've ever seen a prophecy where somebody read it, like in Scripture.

01:19:48.020 Somebody reads it and then is like, I got to go do that.

01:19:51.160 Because it was prophesied.

01:19:52.560 You see what I'm saying?

01:19:53.160 Yeah.

01:19:53.420 And they all are doing this.

01:19:55.320 The disbies believe that the quick—preach of rapture.

01:19:59.520 Here we go.

01:20:00.160 This is why I said, preach of rapture earlier.

01:20:03.260 You know, that was the emphasis.

01:20:04.220 Because they believe the quicker they fulfill these prophecies, the quicker the rapture will happen and the quicker Christ will return.

01:20:11.680 So it's in their best interest.

01:20:13.540 This is why they're doing it.

01:20:14.720 They're trying to expedite Christ's return by fulfilling the prophecies themselves.

01:20:19.540 Right.

01:20:19.940 But it's like, what are we called to do?

01:20:21.680 We're called to make disciples of men.

01:20:24.160 We're called to go forth and sin no more.

01:20:26.600 Right.

01:20:26.820 Like, we have a pretty simple thing that we're called to do.

01:20:32.600 You're right.

01:20:33.200 In the Bible, it never calls us to get involved in the machine that manufactures prophecy.

01:20:40.160 Build the machine to manufacture the prophecy is not it.

01:20:43.620 Make yourself look like an asshole on the way there.

01:20:46.580 Yeah.

01:20:46.780 Derek Gilbert was somebody a while ago where, you know, Matt's like, oh, my heart's heavy.

01:20:50.800 Why are you arguing with Derek Gilbert?

01:20:52.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:20:52.880 And it was around Christmas time, I think.

01:20:55.060 It was because we were at that thing with the kids.

01:20:57.300 Yeah.

01:20:57.500 Yeah.

01:20:57.960 And he's like, he's saying to Ben Shapiro on Twitter, he's giving Ben Shapiro advice.

01:21:04.480 Hey, next time you talk about the USS Liberty, rather than saying, don't, you know, there's nothing here.

01:21:10.740 Don't worry about it.

01:21:12.160 Tell them.

01:21:13.020 The Jews were justified.

01:21:13.920 That the Jews were justified in doing it because America had a submarine that was in contact with Egypt or one of those other countries during their seven day war, six day war, whatever it was.

01:21:25.260 And I'm like, Derek, do you realize that this makes you look like an asshole?

01:21:32.540 And of course, my language is crass and he's a man of God.

01:21:37.360 So we get into it kind of like back and forth.

01:21:41.220 And I'm like, where do you live, Derek?

01:21:43.920 And he's like, I live in, I think it was he live, like the Ozark somewhere in Missouri.

01:21:48.200 Oh, yeah.

01:21:48.620 And I was like, is that Israel or do you live in Israel?

01:21:52.520 Because what he's saying is 100% correct.

01:21:54.980 Israel is justified in sinking or attacking an American submarine and killing 30 some odd men and then giving reparations and then acting like it never happened.

01:22:04.100 It was justified because Americans were sending communications to Egypt.

01:22:08.080 But here's the thing.

01:22:10.040 We live in America.

01:22:11.820 And I'm like, you have to choose a side.

01:22:15.240 It's like at this point, it's very.

01:22:16.560 Or rather, if you're going to choose a side, you know, I don't think you have to necessarily, but you cannot choose the other side.

01:22:23.820 Well, I guess you can.

01:22:25.140 And I'm going to remove myself from this, you know, worldly thing, even though I pay taxes to it and all this other stuff.

01:22:30.380 But what is Caesar's right?

01:22:32.380 If you're going to pick if you're going to pick a side in what happened here in this situation, it's very clear.

01:22:37.880 And I can look at it objectively and say Israel was right for attacking because America was doing an aggressive act against it.

01:22:46.520 Yeah, they're doing espionage against Israel.

01:22:48.880 Understandable.

01:22:49.620 Here's the problem.

01:22:50.540 Me as an American, it doesn't matter what our government is doing or what our army is doing there.

01:22:57.180 If you kill American citizens, we got to kill you back.

01:23:00.980 That's how it goes.

01:23:02.260 Every time, every single instance of this happening, there's a retaliation.

01:23:05.820 There was nothing.

01:23:07.060 Nothing happened.

01:23:08.260 And that speaks volumes.

01:23:10.380 And then the fact that, you know, these evangelical dispensationalists are so comfortable saying it later on.

01:23:15.780 You're giving advice to somebody who is a propagandist, an Israeli propagandist that's operating inside of Tennessee in the United States.

01:23:22.720 You're giving advice to an Israeli state, you know, agent, basically.

01:23:27.760 I mean, that's what he is, you know, Ben Shapiro.

01:23:29.620 Boys, but you guys have seen like in the past, what is it, maybe past three months, six months now.

01:23:36.780 Did you guys see that article that came out or the news statement that came out that Israel is going to be financing 10,000 evangelical Christian pastors and influencers to come out to Israel and be educated on why they should continue to propagate and support Israel within the congregation?

01:24:00.300 No, no, no, no.

01:24:01.300 This is not a conspiracy thing.

01:24:04.600 You could look this shit up yourself.

01:24:05.380 It's $2 million in Israeli-backed campaign, Show Faith by Works, LLC.

01:24:13.740 It's a campaign that involves go fencing 32-plus major megachurches.

01:24:18.800 Right.

01:24:19.520 That's a different op.

01:24:21.600 That's where after TPUSA, after TPUSA had their stadium memorial for Charlie Kirk, right?

01:24:30.800 Yeah.

01:24:31.180 Israel geotagged everybody that was there, then followed them to their churches on Sundays, geotagged each of those churches so they knew who to target from now on with propaganda to support Israel.

01:24:42.780 Because even to this day, without modern evangelical dispensational support, Israel will be eviscerated.

01:24:52.920 We are the ones.

01:24:53.960 We are the bully on the block that's protecting the little brother overseas in the Middle East.

01:24:59.000 Otherwise, all the other bullies would just kill him.

01:25:01.580 You know what I'm saying?

01:25:02.020 You've got to ask yourself, if you're part of one of these megachurches and you find out that, like, whatever, your pastor or your church is receiving funding from Israel, you go, wait, wait, wait.

01:25:10.880 You're talking about the same group of people that do not believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.

01:25:16.940 Exactly.

01:25:17.180 And, I mean, it's literally, I mean, the only way to the Father is through the Son, right?

01:25:23.300 It is, Jesus states that explicitly.

01:25:25.500 So, whatever they're doing, even though they fundamentally don't believe that, they're willing to fund this organization, this megachurch, this pastor, you have to imagine, then, that they're doing a thing that isn't in alignment with Christ.

01:25:41.660 Of course.

01:25:42.320 Because they don't believe that.

01:25:43.020 No, no, it's not in alignment with.

01:25:44.840 It's anti-Christ.

01:25:47.060 It's not that they're neutral on the subject.

01:25:50.000 They haven't made their mind up, right?

01:25:52.100 And live and let live.

01:25:53.720 That's not their position.

01:25:54.500 Their position, the Talmudic Jewish position, which is the standard Judaism, okay, for religious Jews, is that Jesus was a false prophet.

01:26:06.780 He was a black magician.

01:26:08.940 He was killed by the Jews, rightfully, that he's in hell for all eternity, boiling in a vat of human shit.

01:26:16.300 That is the Talmudic Judaic position, okay?

01:26:21.860 So, they are not neutral.

01:26:23.140 They are literally anti-Christ.

01:26:26.620 They are against Christ, okay?

01:26:29.940 So, it's interesting to me that we are all about separation of church and state, except if it's Israel that's involved in funding and influencing and propagandizing the Christian church.

01:26:46.280 Then we're okay, then we're okay, you know, this is the dumpster fire that is Christian evangelicalism.

01:26:55.040 It's not a surprise.

01:26:56.840 It's not a surprise to me whatsoever that evangelicalism with the younger, like, generations, like, I guess, post-boomers, is—it's—everybody's leaving.

01:27:08.240 Everybody's leaving, because it's impossible, unless you've done the mental dispensational gymnastics for the past 30, 40 years as a boomer.

01:27:18.040 It's impossible to support this nation anymore, Israel, once the veil has been pulled back on all the shenanigans they're doing.

01:27:28.240 And the Epstein files—this is how we got here—is just the latest freaking piece to their evil satanic puzzle.

01:27:35.600 Do you see what I'm saying?

01:27:37.380 This is why I've come to the conclusion, bro, this sucks, because I grew up dispensational.

01:27:42.680 Bro, this sucks.

01:27:44.620 Until two years ago, life was hunky-dory, you know?

01:27:47.820 Right.

01:27:48.140 I had no problems with it.

01:27:49.320 And then, as things started happening, especially after October 7th, as a Christian and seeing pastors stand up on freaking stage in front of their thousands of congregants and being like, Israel should turn all of Gaza into glass with their nukes so that we could usher in the coming of Christ.

01:28:06.940 And there's Israeli flags on stage being waved, and the whole congregation is like, yeah!

01:28:12.340 Yeah, I'm like, as a Christian, I'm like, I don't think we're on the same page.

01:28:20.680 I think I need to figure this out a little bit more, because that's evil.

01:28:24.260 That's evil.

01:28:24.900 So I can't be associated with that.

01:28:27.420 I went to a church before the current one—so the last one that I went to before this current one.

01:28:32.940 And I sat in there one time.

01:28:34.100 It was Mega Church, two floors, cafe, really nice, good breakfast selection.

01:28:37.820 Slide?

01:28:38.720 What's that?

01:28:39.180 It didn't have a slide.

01:28:40.020 It didn't have—well, it had a slide, but to get to the lower level?

01:28:42.120 Yeah.

01:28:42.400 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:43.700 And it was a white woman in dreadlocks on the stage.

01:28:46.680 She's jamming out, doing her thing.

01:28:48.960 And, you know, they start doing their whatever uplifting speech, and they're talking about Israel.

01:28:55.660 And this was around the time that Israel—you know, the Israel-Gaza thing was really at its height.

01:29:00.900 This was probably maybe—this was before I left, so about a year ago, maybe?

01:29:05.300 How long have I been in town?

01:29:07.500 I'm new in town.

01:29:08.640 I'm new in town.

01:29:09.160 And they basically talked about all the kids that were dying.

01:29:12.640 I have AIDS.

01:29:14.680 And—

01:29:15.120 But I'm a nice guy.

01:29:18.640 So all the kids that were dying in this—you know, in Gaza.

01:29:22.880 Yeah.

01:29:23.620 And the sentiment was pretty much—like, I'm paraphrasing.

01:29:26.800 It's been a while.

01:29:27.480 You can fuck those kids, right?

01:29:27.880 It was like as many kids as it takes to—you know, because Christ is going to return, and this is all—we're all going—

01:29:36.200 Unreal.

01:29:36.460 It's pretty funny.

01:29:37.120 It's pretty funny when you think about it.

01:29:39.100 Bro, how is this human sacrifice any different than what any of the other people we despise are perpetrating?

01:29:45.740 Abortion, Epstein, Canaanites.

01:29:48.040 Yeah.

01:29:48.240 How is this any freaking different?

01:29:50.540 You're egging on mass murder.

01:29:54.880 I'm not defending Palestine.

01:29:56.960 I'm not saying what they did on October 7th is right.

01:30:00.340 I'm not hating the Jews.

01:30:02.760 I'm not anti-Semitic.

01:30:04.080 What I'm saying is, biblically, the argument to support them is not there.

01:30:07.620 And we should not support sin.

01:30:11.440 Sin.

01:30:12.280 Right.

01:30:12.460 We should call it out as Christians publicly from the pulpit.

01:30:16.960 I don't care about your stupid theology or your eschatology, okay?

01:30:20.640 When a nation is in blatant, open rebellion to Christ and sin, we should speak out against that.

01:30:28.380 And our disposition towards them as a people, as a culture, as an ethnic group is not, I hate the Jews.

01:30:36.100 They're responsible for everything.

01:30:37.620 No, we can acknowledge they're responsible for a lot of evil shit.

01:30:40.780 Yeah.

01:30:41.260 And we should say, and I hope they repent and come to faith in Christ, just like the Muslim, just like the Mormon, just like the Chinese, just like the Indian, just like anybody else.

01:30:49.840 They're not special.

01:30:50.440 Just like the Chinaman.

01:30:52.100 Just like the freaking Chinaman.

01:30:54.640 But that's the thing.

01:30:55.760 That's the thing.

01:30:56.740 We should have the same level of disdain and love for everybody equally.

01:31:04.800 We should not be supporting anybody blindly in what they're doing.

01:31:08.040 You know?

01:31:08.320 Yeah.

01:31:08.440 We should want everybody to come out of their own sin and follow Christ.

01:31:11.780 What do you guys make of like the most influential people within this, like the idea of the Nephilim?

01:31:17.880 Because I know, you know, it's a fun topic that we obviously we named the show sort of after and you probably talk about quite often.

01:31:24.220 But the best people are huge, huge dispensationalists.

01:31:29.980 Like the people that I started listening to about the Nephilim are like, so I got theories, dog.

01:31:37.300 OK, well, I'd like to.

01:31:38.300 Can we can you say them or will you get politely banned from society?

01:31:42.560 Perhaps it's OK.

01:31:43.520 Who cares?

01:31:44.020 I live in Idaho.

01:31:44.720 I banned myself from society.

01:31:46.340 Bro, I, I, oh, man, let me think how to put this for your sake, not mine.

01:31:56.440 We don't get it.

01:31:57.320 No, you're ready.

01:31:57.760 Put it however you, if you would have known the things, the battle we fought in the last year or so.

01:32:04.540 Put it however you want.

01:32:05.460 We're banned by an entire city.

01:32:06.940 That's true.

01:32:07.640 Yeah.

01:32:08.180 Whoa.

01:32:08.540 Town.

01:32:09.060 Lucky.

01:32:09.460 I mean, it's, it's mildly unlucky.

01:32:13.000 If they weren't so gay, we could have had a really cool situation.

01:32:15.280 But whatever, we've got a better one, a much better situation.

01:32:18.960 Sounds sneaky.

01:32:20.620 It was, it was, it was, it was messy.

01:32:22.540 But please, no, don't, don't, don't hold your tongue.

01:32:24.940 Don't let her rip.

01:32:26.440 It's interesting that the majority of people within the aliens are the grand deception coming,

01:32:35.420 which I agree.

01:32:36.260 I think it is going to be a great deception, right?

01:32:38.540 I am among those retards.

01:32:39.880 Yes.

01:32:40.040 I am as well.

01:32:41.680 And I think if anything, I have proved that I am also full retard.

01:32:46.060 Okay.

01:32:47.060 So I'm just saying.

01:32:48.120 I would, I, I dubbed the honorary dangerous retard.

01:32:51.220 Yeah.

01:32:51.460 I think that's fair.

01:32:52.720 Thank you.

01:32:54.460 Um, and okay.

01:32:56.200 So it's interesting that the ones that are all about this and talking about how this is the great

01:33:00.860 deception, um, have done the greatest work in the field, like the shoulders that we stand on.

01:33:05.960 Right.

01:33:06.220 It's interesting that the majority of them are dispensational.

01:33:10.240 Okay.

01:33:11.380 Um, and it doesn't mean I disagree with what they're theorizing will be happening.

01:33:16.860 I think we're seeing those things unfold.

01:33:18.560 Right.

01:33:18.960 But, but, but here's where the rubber hits the, meets the road for me, bro.

01:33:26.380 I do not think the Bible supports that there will be a pre-tribulation rapture.

01:33:31.300 Right.

01:33:31.540 So if there is a pre-tribulation rapture, what do I do with that?

01:33:43.980 Um, or should I say if there is something that looks akin to a, what do I, what do I do with that?

01:33:55.900 Well, tell them about your dream.

01:33:57.260 You have your dream, right?

01:33:58.320 Which, Oh, lay it on us, bro.

01:34:01.480 No, no, no.

01:34:03.260 Which one?

01:34:03.820 The one with the destroyed city and the, and the angel.

01:34:06.140 I think you were the one where you were given a choice.

01:34:08.760 No, no, no, no, no.

01:34:09.420 I didn't have, well, it wasn't a dream series of really strange waking events.

01:34:16.460 You've got a soundboard this whole time?

01:34:19.200 Yeah.

01:34:19.400 We've had a soundboard.

01:34:20.160 We have all kinds of noises.

01:34:21.240 I don't know what we got.

01:34:22.240 We got another one.

01:34:22.720 Um, so I mean, I didn't have a, I don't have, I don't have so much, it wasn't a dream.

01:34:29.020 It was this inclination.

01:34:30.780 I'll, I'll make it short in a bridge.

01:34:32.620 My entire life, uh, I had a lot of dreams about being in a post-apocalyptic world, military

01:34:39.780 lockdown, yada, yada.

01:34:41.300 Those subsided, um, before I reached 20, I think.

01:34:44.720 And, uh, and, and though they really informed kind of, uh, among other things, my obsession

01:34:50.420 with, uh, conspiracy and such.

01:34:53.320 Um, and I always had this notion that, uh, if there were to be a rapture that I would,

01:35:02.260 I would choose to stay behind.

01:35:03.920 Now, now that's not anything I ever shared with anybody.

01:35:06.660 I kept it to myself because what a retarded thing to say out loud.

01:35:10.800 And, but I was listening to, uh, uh, a podcast one day and this guy who used to be a horrifying

01:35:18.100 drug addict, I think even like a 1% warlock or something.

01:35:21.900 Oh, he was a warlock.

01:35:22.720 That's right.

01:35:23.020 Yeah.

01:35:23.700 Comes to Christ, denounces his old shit and he's given his testimony.

01:35:28.500 Long story short, he says something.

01:35:30.340 He says the Holy spirit revealed a number of things to him.

01:35:32.700 But one of the things that was revealed to him is that there would be, Oh, why the sins

01:35:37.980 of their leaders would be, damn, there we go.

01:35:45.080 We've been talking about this for a while and we couldn't figure out what it was.

01:35:49.040 Oh, we have that one too.

01:35:53.120 Although I do prefer.

01:35:55.220 Oh, that one's no, we just got copyright struck.

01:35:56.840 All right.

01:35:56.920 So, so there would be a time when, uh, the sins of their leaders would be laid out to,

01:36:08.660 you know, humanity.

01:36:10.360 And, and shortly after that, within the same season, he doesn't know what that timeframe

01:36:15.180 is.

01:36:15.560 He just, that was the thing season.

01:36:17.500 Um, within that season, he has no idea when that is, there would be a rapture.

01:36:23.360 And, and I, and so I'm sitting there and I'm listening to this, enjoying a cigar on my back

01:36:28.880 porch and it's nighttime.

01:36:30.900 And I go in my mind, I go like, actually I pause it.

01:36:35.460 And I'm like, that's fascinating.

01:36:36.900 Cause to me, that sounds like the Epstein thing.

01:36:39.380 This is like a few months ago.

01:36:40.320 You probably talk to yourself, right?

01:36:41.520 By yourself.

01:36:41.940 No, no, no.

01:36:42.320 I don't do it out loud, but I do a lot of pondering, um, monologuing.

01:36:46.380 No, well internal.

01:36:47.480 So, so, and I think I have that thought.

01:36:50.540 I go, you know, just kind of flippantly, like I'd probably choose to stay behind though.

01:36:55.820 And, and the reason I would choose to stay behind is because number one, I don't think

01:36:59.760 that I, I learned everything that I learned to then take the first bus out of here.

01:37:03.500 You know what I mean?

01:37:04.100 Like, I feel like people need help.

01:37:06.060 I'm a dude that is equipped to help.

01:37:07.760 Not worried about how selfish a preacher, I think to take the first bus out of here.

01:37:12.980 Right.

01:37:13.620 Um, what, like, what are we doing this for?

01:37:15.580 What good is all the information that I've accrued?

01:37:17.680 If I'm just going to slide when this shit hits the fan.

01:37:20.440 There's a lot of shit recorded.

01:37:21.580 So go ahead and hit that up.

01:37:23.580 Don't forget to leave a five-star review.

01:37:25.240 It won't matter.

01:37:25.780 Go into the Patreon, whatever.

01:37:28.180 So I'm thinking about that.

01:37:29.860 I press play again.

01:37:31.420 And all of a sudden he goes, another thing that the Holy Spirit revealed to me is that

01:37:34.640 there will be a remnant of people who will choose to stay behind.

01:37:40.020 And when that happened, which is like, I don't know who this guy is.

01:37:43.700 And I don't know if he's just talking shit, but it literally brought a tear to my eye.

01:37:48.300 And the second it brought a tear to my eye, I looked up and a star struck across the sky

01:37:53.700 in the night.

01:37:54.360 And I went, what the fuck?

01:37:57.300 And then that night I went to sleep and I had a dream.

01:38:02.020 That I was in a ravaged cityscape.

01:38:07.900 And there were people that were like kind of getting on, you know, with their lives,

01:38:12.040 trying to create new systems.

01:38:13.680 And there was an angel.

01:38:15.780 And this angel, by the way, looked like Angelmon, I think it's called, from Digimon.

01:38:22.260 It doesn't even make sense.

01:38:23.780 His brain's all fucked up.

01:38:24.780 Something like that.

01:38:25.400 I don't know if it looked like that at first, but it's in the sky and it's warning.

01:38:29.080 And I'm not buying it because I'm in this, in this mode of like, everything's a conspiracy

01:38:34.220 and everything's a lie.

01:38:35.360 So I'm like throwing rocks at it and the rocks are passing through it.

01:38:39.600 And then it goes away for a time.

01:38:41.340 So anyway, I go to this, this disheveled, broken down building where people are, you know,

01:38:45.620 they're there, they're going through, everybody's still kind of high spirits.

01:38:47.800 There was literally some raiders who were covered in blood after they just got back doing something.

01:38:53.180 And I knew the guy and I was like, yo, what up dog?

01:38:55.100 And he was like, Hey, what's going on, man?

01:38:56.360 And I kept walking past him.

01:38:57.840 I go into this building and all of a sudden somebody shows me this ancient text.

01:39:02.000 And in this ancient text, there is the name of this angel.

01:39:05.740 I can't pronounce it.

01:39:06.700 It's in a language I've never seen before, but I knew when I saw it, I was like, oh shit,

01:39:12.560 that angel was real.

01:39:13.860 And I went back outside and it ended up coming back.

01:39:17.240 I don't remember the rest of the dream.

01:39:18.380 The final cherry on top, my son wakes up that morning, tells me about a dream that he has.

01:39:23.320 He's on a floating city in the sky over a destroyed landscape.

01:39:29.560 And I don't remember like what he said after that, but I'm just looking at this kid going like,

01:39:33.920 okay.

01:39:35.200 Like, I don't even know what to say to him.

01:39:38.340 But yeah, I don't even know where to place that.

01:39:40.660 It's not something that I've heard people express outside of this one thing.

01:39:43.940 The idea of being left behind, choosing to stay behind during the rapture is not something that is biblical even.

01:39:51.600 So it could be total bullshit.

01:39:53.220 Who knows?

01:39:53.660 I could have been programmed by some sort of aliens, whatever, in an abduction experience to believe some total lie.

01:39:59.940 But it was, I'd never heard anybody say it.

01:40:03.100 I thought about it.

01:40:04.060 I unpaused the show.

01:40:05.380 He said it, which was enough already.

01:40:07.980 Then I look up, a star streaks across the sky.

01:40:10.640 I'm so shook up by this.

01:40:12.420 I share it with my wife, which is beyond schizophrenic.

01:40:14.660 Okay, Ben.

01:40:15.320 Okay, Ben.

01:40:16.480 Are we crazy, Ben?

01:40:17.900 Ben, are we crazy?

01:40:18.660 Chad, are we crazy?

01:40:19.800 Yeah.

01:40:20.320 What happened?

01:40:21.460 Well, like, there's different.

01:40:24.620 Crazy is a spectrum, right?

01:40:26.440 So, no, I'm just playing.

01:40:28.080 Hey, I don't doubt what you're saying.

01:40:33.740 Like, I don't doubt that there may be something that goes down that's very, very different than what dispensationalists have led us all to believe.

01:40:47.060 Because that's what we've all grown up in, by the way.

01:40:50.380 Ben, you can trash this because I'm totally okay with the idea that, like, I know this series of events that happened to me were real.

01:40:58.240 I don't know that that was the truth.

01:41:01.180 Yeah, there's no way to, there's no way to, like, crazy shit.

01:41:05.560 For sure.

01:41:06.020 There's no way for us to tell you if that was from God or from the enemy.

01:41:10.480 There's no way for us to tell you that, right?

01:41:12.280 You need to test the spirits.

01:41:16.280 You need to be in prayer.

01:41:17.600 You need to be asking God if this is from you.

01:41:20.360 You need confirmation.

01:41:22.200 That's your relationship with Christ, right?

01:41:23.980 For me, hearing, there's no denying the chain of events that you described, right?

01:41:29.440 Those things would be very coincidental if they were just chance.

01:41:33.840 But sounds very supernatural, in my opinion, the chain of events, and then the dreams, and then your son's dream.

01:41:39.360 But the crazy thing is, to me, what that, if it is true, if that is from God, what that would lead me to believe is that there's going to be something that happens which is similar to what Dispies have been touting for the past 170 years about a pre-trib rapture.

01:42:02.640 But it's actually not going to be a pre-trib rapture.

01:42:08.000 It's going to be something else.

01:42:09.120 It's going to be something else.

01:42:10.440 I know exactly what you're saying.

01:42:12.700 And I wonder, let's say it was a demonic deception.

01:42:16.120 Let's say they utilize technology because we know that they're reverse engineering this and that.

01:42:20.060 Call it the alien rapture.

01:42:21.900 Sure, sure, sure.

01:42:22.840 But aliens, even that's a good...

01:42:26.340 Well, then who goes up, right?

01:42:27.440 Who goes up?

01:42:28.300 Who would they be taking, I wonder?

01:42:29.920 The retarded people.

01:42:30.500 They have enough metal in their heads that they can get magnet pulled up to the...

01:42:37.620 Hold on, hold on.

01:42:38.660 That would be a good way to know, right?

01:42:40.280 Like, if you know somebody of good discernment, somebody that you're looking at and you're like, if that guy goes, then that's legit.

01:42:48.480 You know?

01:42:48.960 If he stays...

01:42:49.800 Maybe, maybe.

01:42:51.260 But, A, here's the thing.

01:42:53.260 We know alien abductions are real, right?

01:42:56.080 Yeah.

01:42:56.560 We believe this.

01:42:57.900 We know this.

01:42:58.460 We've talked to them, right?

01:42:59.680 Wilkinson, et cetera.

01:43:00.700 Okay.

01:43:02.080 Can Christians be abducted?

01:43:04.780 Seems that way.

01:43:05.540 Yep.

01:43:05.880 Can non-Christians be abducted?

01:43:08.160 Also seems that way.

01:43:09.360 Okay.

01:43:09.660 So, we have no idea who would get abducted if there was an alien pre-trib rapture.

01:43:15.800 We have no idea.

01:43:16.500 There's no way for us to speculate or to say, I don't think anybody's immune.

01:43:20.720 I'd be curious.

01:43:21.840 This is where this led me.

01:43:23.620 Have you guys read the book or heard of Carl Payne's Spiritual Warfare?

01:43:30.440 No.

01:43:31.340 Really good book.

01:43:32.120 I'll send it to you.

01:43:32.800 Oh, dude.

01:43:33.860 He, like, 40 years of experience in casting out demons specifically out of Christians.

01:43:41.760 Maybe not because they're possessed, but he calls it demonized.

01:43:44.800 So, they're affected by the demonic in some way.

01:43:47.080 And it always comes down to unrepentant sin, okay?

01:43:51.880 And not knowing who you are or what authority you have, your current standing in Christ, your true identity in Christ.

01:43:59.380 I would say that's very fair.

01:44:00.840 Okay?

01:44:01.300 So, the Christians that have experienced those abduction phenomenon, why would a Christian with unrepentant sin and not knowing his identity in Christ be susceptible to demonic activity here, right?

01:44:15.540 In this way that Carl describes in his book, but not be susceptible to demonic activity in a different way, like abduction.

01:44:22.340 Why would they be able to possess or demonize but not fuck with them while they're asleep?

01:44:30.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:44:31.720 I think there might be genuine Christians who are abducted if there's an alien pre-trib rapture.

01:44:41.000 I also think there would be non-Christians who are abducted during an alien pre-trib rapture.

01:44:46.020 I also think that there's going to be a lot of dispensationalists who are abducted during an alien pre-trib rapture.

01:44:53.780 Why?

01:44:54.800 Because from a satanic strategic perspective, what do you think that would do to the people that are left behind?

01:45:02.140 Do you think that that would force them away from Christianity or towards it?

01:45:09.540 Where do you think they would go?

01:45:12.600 It's hard to say because I know if I miss the boat, if I miss the boat, I would say then it's imperative now that I get more right because it looks like I'm not going to get the boat out of here, but I've got eternity ahead of me.

01:45:25.080 More right as in, hey, I was wrong before.

01:45:28.300 Who was right?

01:45:29.560 Who was right?

01:45:30.740 Oh, hold on one second.

01:45:33.600 Hit it.

01:45:34.360 You earned it.

01:45:35.740 Thank you.

01:45:36.120 Thank you.

01:45:36.340 That's a crazy thought.

01:45:37.280 That's a crazy thought.

01:45:39.180 What if it's just boomers?

01:45:40.100 No.

01:45:41.180 What if you're right?

01:45:42.380 You're right.

01:45:42.860 You're in good standing.

01:45:43.880 Yeah.

01:45:44.160 But we see this happen around us and then we go, oh, shit.

01:45:47.440 What did I miss?

01:45:48.880 I have to be more right.

01:45:50.080 All right.

01:45:50.320 Well, what's more right?

01:45:51.200 Jesus plus.

01:45:52.160 What's that?

01:45:52.760 Jesus plus.

01:45:53.660 Jesus plus.

01:45:55.420 Whatever.

01:45:56.140 Yeah.

01:45:56.300 And then you start to get mixed up.

01:45:58.480 Yeah.

01:45:58.700 Hey, so where does that lead even solid Christ believing spirit filled Christians?

01:46:06.480 Where does that lead us to panic and run to?

01:46:09.940 Well, I would imagine a lot of your own understanding.

01:46:12.740 Well, your own understanding.

01:46:13.600 But I think a lot of people consider the law after that.

01:46:15.940 Like they might look to Jews and be like, oh, shit.

01:46:19.300 Is it adherence to the law?

01:46:20.880 Because it's like as soon as you get messed up and you think like, oh, it's not faith.

01:46:25.540 It's not grace through faith.

01:46:27.480 Like salvation doesn't come through just believing like salvation just passed.

01:46:31.360 Was it the law?

01:46:31.920 I don't know.

01:46:32.380 Then you would look at the Jews and be like, they're still here.

01:46:34.240 I don't know what happens.

01:46:35.280 Moses goes up.

01:46:36.500 He goes up the mountain and the Jews immediately turn to whatever is closest to them to get

01:46:40.800 what they needed.

01:46:41.680 Yeah.

01:46:41.780 They turn to Hathor.

01:46:42.460 They turn to Moloch.

01:46:43.780 I would say Gnosis would probably be like if you start going because somebody said.

01:46:47.600 Oh, actually, yeah, that's actually what it would be.

01:46:49.460 I mean, Christians would turn to idol worship.

01:46:52.840 There would be a certain period in time where they're like, damn, we have to get more right.

01:46:57.100 And then they'll look at it and they'll look.

01:46:58.560 I mean, the people who are reading the Bible, if you're really that fool, they'd be like,

01:47:00.960 we did we did what we were supposed to do.

01:47:03.080 Like what what else did I need to do?

01:47:05.300 Hey, let me let me put this out there, though.

01:47:07.380 OK, if Satan is dude, he's not dumb.

01:47:11.580 You guys have to like understand Satan is a freaking evil genius, bro.

01:47:16.700 OK, and he's.

01:47:19.440 He's been strategizing at this for millennia.

01:47:23.020 OK, he's been putting the shit together.

01:47:25.860 And his goal is to deceive us Christians.

01:47:33.700 He's already got non-Christians.

01:47:36.600 They are already his.

01:47:38.440 They do not need to be deceived anymore.

01:47:40.880 His attention, I think, will be turned on us.

01:47:44.180 If not already, it is on us with the great deception.

01:47:48.740 Right.

01:47:48.920 What does it specifically say?

01:47:50.740 If it were not for the chosen in those days, God would or God had to.

01:47:56.860 Damn, I wish I could quote it right now.

01:47:58.680 God had to shorten those days.

01:48:00.040 If not, not even the elect would be alive or something like that.

01:48:02.840 There would be nobody left.

01:48:04.320 Even if even the elect or if they I'm sorry, if the elect could be deceived, that's why

01:48:09.660 he had to shorten those days.

01:48:10.660 So that not even the elector to see there's there's an element that is targeted towards

01:48:15.360 us, the Christians.

01:48:16.720 We are the ones he needs to deceive.

01:48:18.360 And so if there is a alien preacher rapture, okay, and it's a hodgepodge of people that

01:48:26.440 go up, there's pastors that are gone, there's pastors that are left, there's Christians that

01:48:29.460 are gone, there's Christians that are left, there's non-believers that are gone, there's

01:48:34.100 non-Christians that are left.

01:48:35.280 Would that not be the most chaotic, perfect situation from a strategic spiritual standpoint?

01:48:41.320 Imagine the bickering.

01:48:42.800 Do you understand what that would do?

01:48:44.680 Do you have, bro, we're bickering about every freaking theological debate and Israel and

01:48:50.120 everything else, right?

01:48:51.460 As Christians, Calvinism, Arminianism, preacher, poster, who gives a crap if that goes down

01:48:57.400 and the people taken is a hodgepodge, it's going to be pure chaos within the church itself.

01:49:02.540 Okay.

01:49:02.940 Dude, you know what's crazy?

01:49:04.520 The more you build your profile, like, because if that theory, that is a very plausible theory,

01:49:11.120 but the more you build your public profile the way we're doing now, we're probably one

01:49:14.720 of the people that would be taken because it would have to be an example.

01:49:19.760 You know what I'm saying?

01:49:20.740 Like the leaders in the church.

01:49:21.800 It's possible.

01:49:22.520 But here's what I think, bro.

01:49:24.480 I think Christians who are left behind and non-Christians who are left behind will all

01:49:31.480 be attracted to the people who for the past 170 years have been saying, there's going to

01:49:38.180 be a pre-trib rapture, who are the dispensationalists.

01:49:42.880 Any dispensationalists that are left, any pastors, any churches that are left behind,

01:49:47.820 right, I think are going to be swarmed because people, even non-Christians, non-Christians

01:49:53.080 know we're calling for a rapture, right?

01:49:55.080 This isn't like news.

01:49:56.080 Joe Rogan talks about it.

01:49:57.000 A bunch of people talk about Christians and their rapture.

01:50:00.000 But I think people will say, oh my God, they were right.

01:50:03.840 So flood, there's going to be a flood of people turning to dispensationalism, even though this

01:50:11.640 wasn't actually a God-ordained or a Christ-perpetrated rapture.

01:50:19.160 It's something else.

01:50:20.660 It's a deception.

01:50:21.100 So we're magnitudes.

01:50:22.400 We're not just one degree away from what the message was because dispensationalism is

01:50:27.820 like already a degree away from what it's supposed to be.

01:50:30.380 Now you're another degree removed and you're almost completely lost.

01:50:34.120 You'd have to get back to original dispensationalism to then rediscover the roots.

01:50:38.420 That's dangerous.

01:50:39.260 But then I guess the question would be, what is a dispensationalist pastor preaching on

01:50:45.420 post-rapture, post-pre-trib rapture?

01:50:49.100 You know what I'm saying?

01:50:49.620 Mid-trib.

01:50:51.020 He's, yeah, yeah.

01:50:53.080 Maybe the mid-trib were right.

01:50:54.700 But no, he can't.

01:50:55.500 He can't say maybe they're right because the event just happened.

01:50:58.120 Well, no, because what he's going to say is, this is my sin.

01:51:03.280 This is why I was left behind.

01:51:04.660 I didn't confess this sin.

01:51:06.000 They're going to come up with reasons they were left behind.

01:51:08.780 You know what I'm saying?

01:51:09.860 They're going to come up with stuff.

01:51:11.440 They're going to think on the spot as to why they were left behind.

01:51:14.540 But Joe Schmo, his assistant pastor, was taken.

01:51:16.360 And interestingly enough, this, if people flood to disby churches, what's going to happen

01:51:30.380 for support for Israel?

01:51:33.340 Oh, shit.

01:51:35.160 It's going to go crazy.

01:51:36.680 Through the roof, baby.

01:51:38.300 Interestingly enough, one of the tenets within Talmudic Judaism and dispensationalism is

01:51:46.660 Jewish supremacy in the end times.

01:51:49.600 What if this is how the whole world becomes like BFFs with Israel and allows them to tear

01:51:58.820 down the dome of the rock, build their temple instantly?

01:52:01.400 Anything they say, we have to support because the disby's were right.

01:52:04.580 You see what I'm saying?

01:52:07.020 And then, hey, hey, then they build at their temple.

01:52:10.860 They spark that bitch up.

01:52:13.500 And do you think God shows up?

01:52:15.140 Yahweh, the God of the Old Testament, shows up?

01:52:17.520 No.

01:52:18.040 I don't think so.

01:52:19.400 I think Satan shows up.

01:52:21.400 I think when Jesus in John 8 says, you are of your father, the devil, if you knew my father,

01:52:31.540 you would accept me, but you don't because you are of your father, the devil, and you

01:52:34.860 do his works.

01:52:36.180 And in Revelation, when he says, I will make those who call themselves Jews but are not,

01:52:41.040 they are liars.

01:52:41.900 I will make them a synagogue of Satan.

01:52:44.540 I don't think Jesus is joking when he says that there is a group of ethnic Jews, not all,

01:52:50.980 I'm not blaming all, who are maybe a satanic mimicry, a replication of God's, at one point,

01:53:02.280 elect, the Jews, and Satan has mimicked that and is now using it to perpetrate an end times

01:53:09.700 deception through which what happens to the beast in the book of Revelation?

01:53:15.960 He gets inhabited by Satan himself.

01:53:18.740 Through the Jews, through Jewish supremacy, at some point, Satan himself incarnates and

01:53:22.860 rules the world.

01:53:24.020 Seed war.

01:53:24.980 He does what he did in the beginning with the Nephilim.

01:53:29.340 Concord the world.

01:53:30.000 If, so if you have, whatever churches are left, and they will probably be flooded, like

01:53:37.220 everybody will be going to church that Sunday after the pre-trib alien rapture, that points

01:53:45.240 people then to crazy dispensationalism, supporting Israel, which we've never seen before.

01:53:52.560 That's why, when you said it, it's jarring to me because I'm like, how could you support

01:53:55.840 Israel even more as the church, but yet, I think we haven't seen, but then, like, you

01:54:02.920 extrapolate that down, so that, yeah, they do those things, they build a temple, they

01:54:06.040 usher in the Antichrist.

01:54:07.500 Now we have this figure, and I think that scripture will be so on the back burner, like

01:54:13.980 actual scripture.

01:54:15.160 We already have, like, whatever these people say to us, that's what we believe, and that's

01:54:19.460 our doctrine.

01:54:20.400 The doctrine will just be pointed at the Antichrist.

01:54:22.620 And then the people who have enough sense to say, hold on a second, I don't think that

01:54:27.420 this is right.

01:54:28.040 I think that that's the Antichrist.

01:54:29.900 There'd be pretty good reason, pretty good consensus for the population in general to

01:54:34.180 want to, I don't know, let's say, behead them, right?

01:54:37.360 Or persecute them that are actually, that is, this is the one world religion.

01:54:42.180 They'd be the ones, the solid Christians who see what this just was, okay?

01:54:48.400 They'd be the ones being like, no, stop, this is part of the deceptions, it's on par with

01:54:54.980 the aliens, okay?

01:54:56.540 Like, this is the great deception.

01:54:58.820 We'd be the ones still on these platforms saying this, if they allow us, and then we'd

01:55:02.920 be the ones who, we'd be the ones who they would absolutely persecute, because we are

01:55:08.600 standing up against the deception within Christianity.

01:55:12.300 Our own people would want our heads.

01:55:14.120 Our own Christians would want our heads.

01:55:15.540 Because they think they're going to freaking miss the next rapture, because of us.

01:55:19.500 Do you think that when they would usher in, you know, the Antichrist, Man of Perdition?

01:55:23.800 That's right.

01:55:24.260 We're standing in the way of progress, I would say.

01:55:26.840 Well, that's a lot of the issue I've been, so that this would be, because the alien aspect,

01:55:33.140 I don't think it would just serve the rapture angle.

01:55:35.600 I think that you would get a really, really profound and shocking, but still acceptable

01:55:45.720 because of how profound it is, version of Christ.

01:55:50.040 You know, something that the New Age talks about, like a Pleiadian kind of a Jesus, right?

01:55:55.820 We make fun of him because he wears a blue jumpsuit and silver boots.

01:55:59.460 But if you could present something that was, you know, an ascended master, Jesus, or something

01:56:07.140 maybe that comes from this alien thing, where it's like Jesus was real, just not in the

01:56:12.960 way that you understood in your limited understanding.

01:56:16.880 He was from the star system, Pleiades, or what the hell ever.

01:56:21.660 Because I imagine that whatever emerges as the Antichrist would be received as Christ.

01:56:29.760 And it would also...

01:56:31.040 Hey, for some people it will, Dave.

01:56:32.920 But here's the thing.

01:56:34.440 Funny that the Israeli flag has a star on it, you know?

01:56:37.940 They seem to be very obsessed with stars.

01:56:42.640 Their Messiah, dispensationalists believe this, Christians almost unanimously believe this.

01:56:48.820 Their Messiah, who they are waiting for to emerge, is the Christian Antichrist.

01:56:58.160 This is not really argued anymore, right?

01:57:02.220 Or argued about anymore.

01:57:05.060 That Antichrist figure, in Revelation it says that he is indwelt by Satan.

01:57:12.680 At a certain point he becomes indwelt by Satan, right?

01:57:15.760 And so what is the result of dispensationalism?

01:57:24.320 Even if everything I just said is insane and crazy, and they're right, and there is a

01:57:29.460 legit pre-trib rapture, and there is a legit seven-year tribulation, even though the term

01:57:33.660 seven-year tribulation is not in the book of Revelation or anywhere in the Bible, for

01:57:36.840 that matter.

01:57:38.160 Look that up.

01:57:39.160 There's no seven-year tribulation in the Bible.

01:57:41.000 Even in the book of Daniel, he talks about...

01:57:43.000 I forget how many weeks it is, but it does...

01:57:45.340 Three and a half weeks.

01:57:46.700 Three and a half weeks.

01:57:47.520 And there is a...

01:57:49.360 Yeah, but hey, that's when Daniel is interpreted through dispensationalism, that you put a 2,000-year

01:57:56.400 gap between week 69 and week 70, so that you can make the last week a seven-year tribulation.

01:58:04.180 And the word seven-year tribulation or seven-tribulation, nowhere in the Bible, there's three and a half

01:58:09.740 years in Daniel.

01:58:10.480 And then there's another mention of three and a half years in Revelation, who said you

01:58:15.180 got to combine those things?

01:58:16.480 We're talking about how many hundreds of years separation between those two prophecies, and

01:58:21.540 you think you get to combine them, even though the church never did for 1,970 years?

01:58:26.300 That's weird.

01:58:26.980 Interesting.

01:58:27.660 Interesting.

01:58:27.980 But all this to say, there is a point in time where Satan incarnates into this world, okay?

01:58:36.580 And I think that's what the deception is about from his perspective.

01:58:42.400 It's him taking dominion over this world once again, as he's tried doing before with his

01:58:48.540 freaking spawn, the Nephilim, right?

01:58:50.400 That's what the pre-flood world was.

01:58:52.300 And last time, God sends a flood to wipe that out, right?

01:58:57.440 But we don't have any mention of Satan incarnating pre-flood.

01:59:02.560 I wonder if God nipped it in the bud before he had the opportunity to, you know?

01:59:07.140 But in Revelation, it does say that he will inhabit the beast, not the Antichrist.

01:59:11.500 The word Antichrist is not in Revelation.

01:59:13.460 Take that to the bank.

01:59:14.580 The beast is, and he is the one that isn't dwelt by Satan.

01:59:17.320 But if that sets him up as the world ruler, which is basically what we all believe will

01:59:25.660 happen, right?

01:59:26.880 It takes Christ himself coming back to earth to stop him this time.

01:59:33.380 It's not a flood.

01:59:34.280 It's not.

01:59:35.360 They've advanced beyond where they were at pre-flood, you know?

01:59:39.860 They've advanced beyond technologically.

01:59:43.440 And now Christ himself has to come back to stop Satan and what he's doing.

01:59:47.320 It takes an extra level of effort on God's part to stop what Satan's freaking doing.

01:59:53.520 That's how bad it is.

01:59:55.420 That's how bad it is, man.

01:59:57.920 And interestingly enough, like I said, the beast or the Antichrist, from our perspective,

02:00:04.780 is the Jewish Messiah that they're waiting for.

02:00:09.260 So dispensationalism brings about, through their support of Israel and the Third Temple

02:00:15.140 and the Red Heifers and all the self-fulfilled freaking prophecies, brings about Satan's

02:00:19.920 dominion over the freaking earth.

02:00:22.560 That's what you're rooting for.

02:00:24.080 But it's okay, because then what happens is Jesus.

02:00:25.960 But then what happens is Jesus.

02:00:27.120 And then that expedites the millennial reign, and we come back from the rapture.

02:00:30.540 So it's all about our comfort, our safety, right?

02:00:34.940 Because we're not going to be here.

02:00:36.200 Screw everybody else.

02:00:37.580 Screw everybody else.

02:00:38.400 If you remember, Ben, in the Bible, Jesus is quoted as saying, so go forth and force

02:00:47.480 my return by bringing all sorts of damnation to the earth.

02:00:51.720 Wasn't that a...

02:00:52.940 What an ultimate sin that is, though.

02:00:54.580 Because it's like, we're given this great opportunity to be here, where we are now.

02:01:00.760 And it's obviously, it's not ideal.

02:01:02.340 It's not perfect.

02:01:02.940 But it could be a lot better.

02:01:05.460 And the people that are working to force Jesus to come back have made it almost uninhabitable.

02:01:11.520 You know, I mean, they made it miserable on every, right?

02:01:14.840 Like every aspect of life.

02:01:16.380 It doesn't have to be this miserable, right?

02:01:19.020 Life is suffering.

02:01:20.300 Life is pain.

02:01:21.580 Fine.

02:01:22.740 Get over it.

02:01:23.760 But I mean, it's just increasing levels of bad that we have to deal with, which is like,

02:01:29.840 what are you doing, guys?

02:01:30.820 Like, what a spit in the face of the creator of this entire thing.

02:01:34.480 He created this for you to experience it in this specific way.

02:01:38.860 And it's like, you're going to like nerf the game.

02:01:42.060 You're going to end the game because you want it to be over with.

02:01:44.000 God comes back and you go, look at what good shepherds we've been.

02:01:47.680 Look at the steward.

02:01:49.240 Look at the earth that we've been sent to steward over.

02:01:52.140 Look at us.

02:01:52.560 Look at all these trans babies.

02:01:54.560 Dude, it's...

02:01:55.920 Okay.

02:01:56.820 And the trans agenda primarily pushed by a certain state, you know, a certain country.

02:02:03.400 Yeah.

02:02:04.580 There are almost very many evils that is perpetrated on the West, which was a Christian society,

02:02:13.460 has been done by a certain group of people over in the Middle East.

02:02:17.260 You know, this is undeniable from culture being influenced through Hollywood, from our banking

02:02:24.980 system, right?

02:02:26.440 From the leader of frickin' Pharma, or I'm sorry, of Pfizer, okay, with all the jobs.

02:02:34.700 Like, the list goes on.

02:02:36.600 Now, somehow, some way, these guys are implicated, and now through Epstein, implicated in all the

02:02:45.000 craziest atrocities that we've experienced in our lifetime.

02:02:48.220 I'm almost 40, you know?

02:02:49.500 And I can't think of something that doesn't freaking smell.

02:02:53.900 What's really strange to me is, like, you know, I get it.

02:02:57.140 Everything is...

02:02:57.660 And I understand, like, in the Bible, it's all nations are going to turn on Israel at some

02:03:01.280 point.

02:03:01.780 Yeah.

02:03:02.100 Hey, Dave, sorry, sorry.

02:03:03.320 Hey, why?

02:03:04.100 Because they're a bastion of light and Jesus, and all evil turns against them, and they're

02:03:11.120 jealous of their righteousness?

02:03:13.020 Is that why all nations turn against them?

02:03:15.320 Because all nations turn against Israel because it crushes so hard?

02:03:18.800 Yeah, or is it because they're so freaking evil and wicked?

02:03:23.520 Yeah, yeah.

02:03:24.500 Why would all nations turn against them?

02:03:27.480 All this stuff that's in the Epstein files, and it all is, like, Epstein is associated with,

02:03:31.560 like, every single conspiracy of the last, you know, 100 years or some shit like that

02:03:36.460 is very strange.

02:03:37.900 And then, of course, it all points back to Israel and, you know, the Jews and their hatred

02:03:42.640 of the Goyim and everything.

02:03:44.100 This little nugget drops.

02:03:46.000 So, Kairina Shuliak is Jeffrey Epstein's girlfriend.

02:03:51.020 Her account's been taken down.

02:03:52.580 I don't know if she deleted it or whatever, but for about 24 hours, she was tweeting feverishly,

02:03:58.800 and she said they sacrificed children to Lucifer.

02:04:02.340 It's an entire cult.

02:04:04.100 Jeffrey got involved in the operation for financial reasons and to obtain Compromat.

02:04:11.600 I don't know what Compromat is.

02:04:12.820 It's spelled with a K.

02:04:13.660 Compromising information.

02:04:14.340 With a K?

02:04:17.040 It's like a, they use that, like, as a Russian term.

02:04:19.780 Okay.

02:04:20.300 But he never participated in those rituals.

02:04:23.980 Epstein never BF'd those kids.

02:04:26.400 And then she said, I'm not suicidal, just in case you'll know the whole truth soon.

02:04:31.240 And then she said, after years of silence, the truth, Jeffrey Epstein was innocent.

02:04:37.820 Tracked by powerful people who silenced him.

02:04:40.700 I was his last confidant, and I have the evidence they're still hiding.

02:04:47.060 So, wherever all this goes, man, look, at the least, at the least, Ben, it's an entertaining bit of script that's unfolding before us.

02:04:58.440 I mean, it really is a great story.

02:05:02.000 I got a question for you.

02:05:02.760 It's amazing.

02:05:03.840 It's amazing.

02:05:04.640 Do you think, do you think we should still be talking about the Nephilim?

02:05:11.220 Oh, yeah.

02:05:11.940 Because this is a, every time it comes up to me.

02:05:13.800 Are you going to rename your show to freaking Alien Raptor?

02:05:15.760 Try to rename that squad.

02:05:17.020 We already have an LLC, so it's going to happen.

02:05:18.740 Yes, we have an LLC.

02:05:21.600 I mean, simply too much.

02:05:24.600 We're busy.

02:05:25.500 We're busy.

02:05:26.460 But it's, it's not about, because I do think the Nephilim existed.

02:05:30.660 I think that all that stuff is true.

02:05:32.480 For sure.

02:05:32.820 Yeah, it's just Tucker Carlson's talking about him now.

02:05:35.700 Every time Tucker Carlson talks about it.

02:05:37.020 Every time Candace Owen talks about it.

02:05:38.980 I'm like, wait a second.

02:05:39.960 Am I retarded?

02:05:40.960 Why are you doing this?

02:05:42.520 It's because this narrative that is true is being used to push people into a certain direction.

02:05:49.560 And I'm like, can I just say, Top, hey.

02:05:51.780 What role have we played in that?

02:05:53.040 Well, not even that.

02:05:54.300 Good for us, though.

02:05:55.500 Good for us.

02:05:56.260 Because it's great for branding if everybody believes in the Nephilim.

02:06:00.760 Because then everybody comes and watches the Nephilim Death Squad.

02:06:03.420 But I'm not concerned with that.

02:06:05.320 I'm concerned with being a good servant, making disciples of men, speaking the truth.

02:06:10.740 So if we got to change this thing, if we got to pay that money to change that LLC to Sons of Seth Squad, then it's even more of a lie.

02:06:17.660 So the idea is that the Nephilim is true.

02:06:23.160 That is true, in my opinion, not in my opinion.

02:06:26.560 Everything that I've seen, dude, everything that I've seen, I picked that lens.

02:06:31.260 I finally picked up that lens.

02:06:32.560 I said, Jesus Christ.

02:06:33.820 Oh, the Nephilim is like a handy little thing to add to this whole biblical worldview.

02:06:37.340 Okay, great.

02:06:38.080 And then I started looking through it, and I would have stopped if it didn't keep yielding good fruit.

02:06:41.960 Right, but here's the thing, though.

02:06:43.540 Why, like, this is a question.

02:06:45.380 Why have we been given this to look at the world through?

02:06:48.600 Oh, like society getting Nephilim and everything?

02:06:50.900 Yeah, society's been Nephlimized.

02:06:53.240 Everybody pretty much knows what it is.

02:06:55.180 And now under that specific lens, if you pick up that little skull with the crossbones and you put it over and you look through it, things start to look a little clearer.

02:07:05.460 But as they look clearer, we get ever closer to what's coming.

02:07:10.460 So I'm like, it's a truth that's being told to us to then get us to this huge, unique lie.

02:07:17.560 And I'm like, damn.

02:07:18.480 But at this point, it's like, all right, so if I step away, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson will continue to talk about this.

02:07:23.840 L.A. Marzulli and the rest of these guys will still continue.

02:07:27.100 I'm not necessarily pushing.

02:07:28.700 I'm not pushing this from a dispensationalist direction, but it's just like, what have we contributed to by looking at this thing and talking about it?

02:07:36.460 No, what we are doing, we're the gateway drug.

02:07:40.340 All right.

02:07:40.580 We are the weed that is leading people.

02:07:43.620 We are the weed now.

02:07:45.060 I am the weed now.

02:07:47.380 Hey, we are the gateway drug leading people into deeper truths.

02:07:52.620 It's kind of, Dave was kind of alluding to this, you know, we believe nothing I've said, whether you're dispensational or not, whether you think there's a preacher about her or not, whether you think the antichrist is Jewish or not, it doesn't matter.

02:08:04.360 Like, Nephilim are a historic fact, right?

02:08:07.960 What it did for me, once I accepted, like, the Nephilim is a historic fact and they are fallen angels and they didn't manipulate genetics and, you know, the whole story.

02:08:19.040 Once I bought into that, courtesy of Heiser, the Bible made more sense to me and I had more faith in Christ and it made everything way more real and it made me want to go max for Christ.

02:08:36.980 It was only after I accepted the reality of the network.

02:08:41.040 Max for Christ.

02:08:42.060 Christ max.

02:08:43.160 Christ maxing.

02:08:44.280 Okay.

02:08:44.460 So, to me, I think it's a great thing that people are accepting the supernatural reality, which includes this spiritual freaking battle that plays itself out some ways, somehow, in our dimension.

02:09:05.020 And for some reason, Satan gives a shit about hooking up with women and producing Nephilim and trying to overthrow Adam's dominion of the earth and take over this stupid rock in space.

02:09:17.500 None of that matters.

02:09:18.200 Like, why does that make sense?

02:09:19.800 Why does any of that make sense in the grand scheme of this, if this is just a spiritual battle in the heavenlies?

02:09:26.340 Why does it make sense?

02:09:27.300 I don't know, but here we are.

02:09:29.300 And we are freaking in the thick of it.

02:09:33.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:09:33.560 And what we do, by talking about Nephilim and aliens, because that is the same lie.

02:09:39.460 That is the same deception.

02:09:40.680 That is the same supernatural shenanigans, rebranded, right?

02:09:48.000 It's a rebranding, exactly.

02:09:49.160 That's all it freaking is.

02:09:50.720 That's all it freaking is.

02:09:51.780 It's a rebranding.

02:09:52.840 So, by us connecting these dots for people, I hope to do what Heiser did for me.

02:09:58.480 I hope for somebody's light bulb to go, oh, shit, that's true.

02:10:01.480 I could totally see that happening.

02:10:02.500 Everything I just painted about pre-trip alien rapture, that's all my speculation.

02:10:07.220 That's just me thinking out logically where these things could lead, right?

02:10:11.760 I could be totally wrong.

02:10:13.560 Actually, I hope I am wrong.

02:10:14.940 I hope there's a pre-trip rapture.

02:10:16.740 I'm not suicidal either, you know?

02:10:18.420 But I think we are doing a service, a good service, just because there are people out there who don't realize that they might be perpetrating in the deception, like perpetrating the deception themselves.

02:10:35.140 I don't know, bro.

02:10:37.940 God's still sovereign.

02:10:39.180 God's still sovereign.

02:10:40.120 The Catholic Church was a massive dumpster fire piece of shit for, what, a thousand years?

02:10:45.560 And it's still how God preserved Christianity.

02:10:51.240 You see what I'm saying?

02:10:52.440 And we are where we are, even though the Catholic Church was a freaking dumpster fire.

02:10:57.240 We are where we are today.

02:10:58.340 God used that in His sovereignty, right?

02:11:01.080 In the same way, just because dispensationalism is the flavor of the day for the past 170 years doesn't mean that God's not sovereign and that that wasn't accounted for in His plan.

02:11:14.880 I actually think, which is the most ironic thing ever, that it is dispensationalism that fulfills the prophecies that they put forth, you know what I'm saying?

02:11:27.320 Which makes the end times play out the way that we grew up thinking they'll play out, from Left Behind to Paradise Lost to all of these other dispensational, propagandized forms of entertainment.

02:11:41.860 Now you're talking about time travel.

02:11:43.520 Time travel.

02:11:44.340 I'm not talking about time travel.

02:11:46.400 I'm talking about the fact that God is sovereign and He accounted for dispensationalism in His end times prophecy.

02:11:56.580 I'll give you an example.

02:11:57.440 I don't know if I said this last time, okay?

02:12:00.300 The best way for us to visualize it is via all the time travel movies, right, that we're so accustomed to, where people go into the past to try to fix something in their present, right?

02:12:14.000 Something's wrong in their present, so they go into the past to fix it.

02:12:17.140 But whatever changes they make in the past are accounted for in their present, and their present plays out the way it did because they went in the past and did what they did.

02:12:27.620 And that's why-

02:12:28.140 Harry Potter.

02:12:29.220 Okay?

02:12:29.500 All of that, all of that, all of it, back to the future, everything, right?

02:12:32.840 So I'll give you an example.

02:12:34.960 In Revelation, it talks about John.

02:12:38.260 So John's got a vision, right?

02:12:39.620 He's on freaking Patmos tripping, like, right?

02:12:42.180 And he gets this vision of a beast with the body of a lion, the feet of a bear, the face of a leopard, the wings of an eagle, right?

02:12:53.880 And this beast does things, okay?

02:12:58.200 Now, Tom, maybe you could pull this up.

02:13:00.640 The statue outside of the UN dedicated or donated by a Mexican artist.

02:13:05.480 Yo, it's crazy.

02:13:07.200 It's that little statue that your son made.

02:13:09.660 Oh, that's not-

02:13:10.560 What is it called?

02:13:11.240 That's not-

02:13:11.640 From where and all.

02:13:12.820 Outside the UN.

02:13:14.520 Okay.

02:13:15.580 The statue-

02:13:17.600 The statue outside the UN building donated by a Mexican artist.

02:13:22.740 Okay.

02:13:22.800 Yeah, it's the same thing.

02:13:23.920 Yeah, this is called a griffin.

02:13:25.280 Well, no, that's not a griffin, exactly.

02:13:26.940 It's something a little bit different.

02:13:28.020 It's specifically a jaguar.

02:13:29.000 A griffin is like a head of an eagle, body of a lion.

02:13:31.960 Oh, right, right, right.

02:13:32.800 That is the thing your son made.

02:13:34.500 Jaguar.

02:13:34.980 Jaguar.

02:13:35.320 Jaguar.

02:13:35.480 Who is it?

02:13:35.940 There's over here.

02:13:36.860 It's now in the front of the UN.

02:13:39.320 So, yeah, my son made me, I had it here.

02:13:43.360 It's a little clay doll of, yeah, exactly that.

02:13:46.280 Yeah, it's a spiritual entity.

02:13:47.980 Okay.

02:13:48.180 These look like the things from Coco.

02:13:50.380 Coco.

02:13:51.640 Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

02:13:53.620 Or is that just more normalizing?

02:13:56.480 And what's it called?

02:13:57.920 Pre-conditioning, right?

02:14:00.800 Right, right.

02:14:01.640 Okay, get that demon off.

02:14:02.860 Hey.

02:14:03.180 So, John is on Patmos and describes in his vision that, that, right?

02:14:12.880 Like, it's undeniable.

02:14:14.260 It's the face of a leopard, the feet of a bear, the wings of an eagle, blah, blah, blah.

02:14:18.440 Yeah, right?

02:14:18.860 What is the conventional explanation for building that thing outside of the UN?

02:14:22.460 There is no, they don't need to explain these things.

02:14:24.700 The same reason there's a statue of the goddess Shiva or the god Shiva, the lord of destruction outside of CERN.

02:14:29.860 They don't need to explain these things.

02:14:30.900 It's art, right?

02:14:31.980 So, John sees that, that beast in his vision, and that beast, which is representative, in my opinion, of the UN, does a certain thing, right?

02:14:44.440 If you're accustomed to that, let's say we lived 2,000 years ago, what represents a nation?

02:14:51.500 It's their statues.

02:14:52.520 It's their iconography.

02:14:53.620 It's their, right?

02:14:54.140 It's not the building.

02:14:55.740 What's John going to say about a freaking 80-story building made of glass?

02:14:58.800 And I saw a rock that was shiny because it was a shiny rock.

02:15:03.720 How do you describe a skyscraper 2,000 years ago?

02:15:06.940 No, you described their iconography.

02:15:08.640 You described their symbolism.

02:15:10.340 He saw that statue outside the freaking UN.

02:15:12.820 And so he said, I saw this, and this is what that thing did, right?

02:15:16.840 Oh, that's interesting.

02:15:17.900 Then the freaking Mexican artist or Spanish artist, I don't know what he is.

02:15:22.360 He reads that.

02:15:24.080 Certainly illegal.

02:15:24.800 Hey, hey, he's, call eyes, hey, he sees, he reads that description, and the demons in

02:15:33.000 him are like, make it.

02:15:34.940 So he's like, ah, that's hilarious.

02:15:36.100 I like that line of thinking.

02:15:38.860 There you go.

02:15:39.320 They're like, this looks like the end times scripture.

02:15:41.660 Looks a lot like the end times beast.

02:15:43.360 Interesting CBN news.

02:15:45.760 That's hilarious.

02:15:47.180 I do like that line of thinking.

02:15:48.660 So he reads that, demons tell him, build it, you know?

02:15:52.700 And he's like, si, senors.

02:15:54.680 So he freaking builds this thing.

02:15:56.620 He doesn't even charge for it.

02:15:57.800 He donates it.

02:15:59.040 They put it out in front of the UN because their demons tell him, put this out in front

02:16:02.420 of, in your front yard.

02:16:03.660 They're not like, what the hell is that shit?

02:16:06.060 Why would we put that?

02:16:06.980 No, they put it out there.

02:16:08.100 Right?

02:16:08.360 And that's what John sees.

02:16:10.760 So which came first?

02:16:12.580 The prophecy in the past or the statue in the future?

02:16:18.400 You see what I'm saying?

02:16:19.420 Because without the prophecy, the Mexican artist doesn't read this description and doesn't

02:16:25.720 build the statue.

02:16:26.620 Has no reference point to it.

02:16:28.100 But without the statue, John doesn't see it in the past and doesn't talk about it.

02:16:32.280 You see what I'm saying?

02:16:33.360 Whoa.

02:16:34.100 Self-fulfilling.

02:16:34.740 So which came first, dispensationalism or the end times prophecies as we know them?

02:16:41.460 Right.

02:16:41.880 I don't know.

02:16:42.760 I think it's accounted for in God's sovereign plan.

02:16:45.960 You know what I'm saying?

02:16:46.840 Well, it is.

02:16:47.520 If you're looking at time like a flat disk and you see it all because you're outside

02:16:50.960 of it.

02:16:51.520 Correct.

02:16:51.980 Yeah.

02:16:52.240 Correct.

02:16:52.700 That's how it makes sense.

02:16:55.000 We can look at these things and we can speculate on if they're manufactured or not.

02:17:00.240 But I think in the end, it doesn't quite matter.

02:17:02.100 Like these things are going to, they're going to happen.

02:17:03.920 They're going to happen.

02:17:05.460 Hey, especially when, especially when the dispensationals are making them happen.

02:17:09.600 Okay.

02:17:09.980 They're going to happen.

02:17:11.900 There's no way around it.

02:17:13.200 But let me, let me ask this, bro.

02:17:15.780 Because as we, as we close this up as Christians, right, we should ask ourselves, oh shoot.

02:17:21.080 Okay.

02:17:21.280 Maybe these guys are out of their freaking minds.

02:17:22.860 Maybe they're onto something.

02:17:23.760 Maybe they smoked a little too much weed and did some other drugs while they were younger

02:17:27.320 and whatever.

02:17:27.860 Okay.

02:17:28.920 But, but, hey, when do we, when do we stop supporting Israel as Christians?

02:17:38.120 Okay.

02:17:38.860 Is it when Epstein files are released and we find out that they're behind all of that satanic

02:17:45.700 activity that we're all like throwing up over?

02:17:48.080 Right.

02:17:48.520 So you mean last weekend?

02:17:49.900 Yeah.

02:17:50.380 So should we stop last weekend?

02:17:51.680 Uh, is it when they bomb other, um, territories, killing 80% women and children and, uh, killing

02:18:01.360 a bunch of Christians too, who live in Gaza?

02:18:03.500 Should we stop supporting them then?

02:18:05.280 Is it when they build their third temple?

02:18:08.060 Right.

02:18:08.900 Is it when the antichrist comes out of the third temple indwelt by Satan?

02:18:14.500 At what point do we sit back as Christians and be like, uh, I feel like if I bless Israel

02:18:23.840 at this point, I'm going to be cursed because they're doing Satan shit.

02:18:29.660 So I, I shouldn't support Satan shit.

02:18:32.740 You see what I'm saying?

02:18:34.040 If I bless Israel, is that a curse?

02:18:36.360 Well, I mean, it depends on what it is.

02:18:38.700 If it's a proclamation that you, which I think is always an appropriate thing, you pray that

02:18:44.040 Israel will come to the understanding that Jesus Christ is their Lord and savior.

02:18:49.240 They miss the bus the first time around, but luckily our God is one of forgiveness, repent,

02:18:56.860 follow Christ.

02:18:57.980 Like, yeah, that's, that's the ultimate spiritual blessing, right?

02:19:01.920 That's the ultimate blessing.

02:19:03.260 And, uh, and it is genuinely the thing that if it happened, if it came to pass, everything

02:19:08.880 would be rectified.

02:19:10.320 Dude, totally.

02:19:11.520 But is that not what we should be doing for every nation under the sun?

02:19:16.660 Amen.

02:19:17.920 You, you know what I'm saying?

02:19:19.620 Uh, pull up one, let me read you one more verse.

02:19:23.260 This is Isaiah 19, 24.

02:19:27.280 Oh man, this is such a trip.

02:19:29.100 And then we can, I'm sure you guys have to go.

02:19:30.900 Uh, Isaiah 19, 24, because I've gotten very comfortable.

02:19:36.460 The chat says, Hey, Hey, it's pretty, it's deep, right?

02:19:40.700 It's crazy.

02:19:41.460 It's great though.

02:19:42.500 It's all tracking.

02:19:44.440 Okay.

02:19:44.940 So check this out.

02:19:45.680 Isaiah 19, 24 in that day, Israel will be, you got it.

02:19:50.780 I put 29, 29, 19, 24, 19, 24, 19, 47.

02:19:55.880 What?

02:19:56.460 Here we go.

02:19:57.960 Uh, okay.

02:19:58.760 In that day, Israel will be the third along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth.

02:20:08.440 The Lord almighty will bless them saying, blessed be Egypt, my people, Assyria, my handiwork

02:20:16.160 and Israel, my inheritance.

02:20:18.460 Why are we not blessing and supporting all things Assyria and all things Egypt along with

02:20:23.480 the other one third of God's people, Israel?

02:20:27.600 Egypt is a few shades too brown for, uh, for the modern church.

02:20:33.220 I would say in America, for sure, because they didn't immigrate from Europe.

02:20:37.520 Right.

02:20:38.380 So the, the point stands though, Israel is one third of God's people.

02:20:44.820 It's not just Israel.

02:20:45.960 We it's plain right here.

02:20:47.340 You take the Bible literally, right?

02:20:48.920 Dispies.

02:20:49.980 So one third is Israel.

02:20:52.280 The other two thirds are Egypt and Assyria.

02:20:54.060 When is the last time you blessed is, uh, Egypt or Assyria?

02:20:58.200 When's the last time you prayed for their people?

02:20:59.620 When's the last time you, you, you, exactly.

02:21:02.540 Who is Assyria?

02:21:03.480 Cause guess what?

02:21:05.180 Cause Christians didn't support them and the country of Assyria, I don't think even exists

02:21:08.500 anymore.

02:21:09.160 That's not the place where we took Gaddafi and they put a knife in his butt and then

02:21:12.320 it turned into an open air slave trade.

02:21:13.840 Is it?

02:21:14.260 Well, let's see.

02:21:14.860 No, no.

02:21:15.300 That's Syria.

02:21:16.980 Oh, okay.

02:21:18.380 So we didn't put a knife in that guy's butt or whoever.

02:21:21.560 Well, not yet.

02:21:22.480 PBD is Assyrian.

02:21:24.000 Somebody would put a knife in his butt.

02:21:25.400 Give it a minute.

02:21:25.840 Yeah.

02:21:27.980 Uh, Northern part of Mesopotamia.

02:21:29.980 So yeah.

02:21:30.200 Modern day Assyria would be modern day Iraq, parts of Iran, Kuwait, Syria, Turkey.

02:21:35.400 Oh, really?

02:21:36.260 You blessed the shit out of that.

02:21:37.420 Oh, that's Libya.

02:21:38.480 Thank you, still reserved.

02:21:39.580 We blessed them by turning their sands glass with our bar.

02:21:43.920 Yeah.

02:21:44.880 Right?

02:21:46.140 But.

02:21:46.460 These are all God's people.

02:21:47.820 We gave them permanent military bases.

02:21:50.200 And so obviously the reason we're not blessing them is because Israel wants to expand their

02:21:55.020 governmental territory into those lands and do most of that land or parts of it.

02:21:59.640 So therefore they can't be, they can't be recognized as part of whatever we are.

02:22:06.860 Correct.

02:22:07.380 And so whose, whose ends are we actually fulfilling?

02:22:14.600 Are we fulfilling?

02:22:15.120 Oh, that goes into the whole, we are the attack dogs of, of Israel.

02:22:18.600 That's one of the things that came out of the.

02:22:20.700 Correct.

02:22:21.160 Um, Epstein files was that, uh, Mossad had its hands that Israel was responsible for nine

02:22:28.740 11 and it's just like, uh, man.

02:22:32.220 Oh, and, and, uh, the financial crisis of 2008, uh, Epstein was also partially responsible

02:22:39.080 for that.

02:22:39.880 Have you guys seen any of those documents?

02:22:41.800 What are you?

02:22:42.240 Okay.

02:22:42.440 Let me, let me ask you this, Ben.

02:22:43.900 I know we're coming short on time here, but do you, do you believe that?

02:22:49.120 Because I'm having trouble believing responsible for everything that he's had his hands.

02:22:52.600 And I mean, just knowing like how hard it is to, you know, like you, your, your husband

02:22:57.420 and a, and a father and you go to work and, you know, outside of even like what we do here,

02:23:02.080 some people are working 60, 70 hour work weeks, and then you have all the other shit to do.

02:23:07.480 This guy's done all, all, all of it.

02:23:10.380 I mean, I, I, I do believe it.

02:23:12.780 And here, here's why I do believe it.

02:23:15.660 Not everything in there is true.

02:23:17.080 Some of that stuff in there is, uh, lies to throw things, to throw people off of sense

02:23:23.260 or to fan, uh, uh, fantastic to size.

02:23:26.980 I don't know if that's a word, but to make things fantastical.

02:23:29.680 So people are like, there's no way that's true.

02:23:31.160 The thing about eating like feces out of intestines.

02:23:33.540 I don't know if that's true.

02:23:34.280 I doubt it.

02:23:34.860 That one actually is the most believable part.

02:23:36.660 But maybe, but maybe because these guys are Satanists, right?

02:23:38.980 Yeah.

02:23:39.200 But there is stuff in there that is used to sensationalize.

02:23:43.720 And what did Nancy Pelosi call it?

02:23:45.240 She called it the rap where you take something, you put it in, you put false information into

02:23:50.720 whatever is being said so that people only focus on the false information and then throw

02:23:54.700 all of it away.

02:23:55.640 Nancy Pelosi called it the rap.

02:23:57.280 Okay.

02:23:58.160 Um, so Epstein started when he was 26.

02:24:01.720 All right.

02:24:02.920 Uh, that's when, oh my God.

02:24:05.460 Uh, if you guys haven't seen Daryl Cooper going over Epstein's history, um, I forget what

02:24:12.760 the name of the podcast is.

02:24:14.140 It's on Spotify, Daryl Cooper, Epstein, Martyrmaid, uh, but he, it's like a four part series on

02:24:19.800 Epstein.

02:24:20.220 It's insane.

02:24:21.100 Uh, Bill Barr, Trump's attorney general, uh, back in 2016, his first administration, Bill

02:24:28.880 Barr's dad hired Jeffrey Epstein, uh, in his first job ever at the Dalton school, uh, like

02:24:36.220 a very high end prestigious school as a math teacher.

02:24:39.300 Uh, and that's where he got his start.

02:24:42.500 What a coincidence that Bill Barr is also the attorney general that was, uh, in charge

02:24:46.900 of the Epstein case when he got put in prison and killed.

02:24:50.820 Right.

02:24:51.440 What a weird, what a weird bookend that the bars are involved in the beginning of his

02:24:55.840 career and the supposed end of his career.

02:24:57.720 Okay.

02:24:58.980 Coincidence.

02:25:00.000 Uh, but anyway, so he started at 26 and he died at what?

02:25:06.840 72, 73, almost 50 years of shenanigans.

02:25:10.620 Okay.

02:25:11.640 Right.

02:25:11.940 If you are identified as like an operative, Hey, we're going to train this guy.

02:25:18.200 We're going to bring him up and we're going to use him for our ends, our purposes.

02:25:23.980 We're going to give him unlimited money, billions upon billions upon billions.

02:25:29.260 He has no life.

02:25:30.780 He has no kids.

02:25:32.280 I worry about those things.

02:25:33.660 When I wake up, he does not.

02:25:35.680 He worries about who can I compromise today?

02:25:38.740 That's his sole freaking purpose in life.

02:25:42.320 Right.

02:25:42.960 And along the way, he gets to live the life of a freaking King and rape everything and

02:25:47.920 anybody in sight.

02:25:48.720 Right.

02:25:49.460 So, um, so he had, so he has 50 years every single day.

02:25:57.440 What's 50 times 365.

02:25:59.200 I don't know a lot.

02:26:00.340 Right.

02:26:00.860 Yeah.

02:26:01.460 150 years plus or 150,000 days plus.

02:26:04.320 I think how many meetings do you think you could get?

02:26:09.580 In 50 years.

02:26:11.240 How many, how many elites that are actually in positions of authority and power that can

02:26:16.920 actually make a difference for Israel when the time comes?

02:26:19.780 How many of those do you even think exist?

02:26:22.040 500, a thousand, 10,000.

02:26:24.740 We're underestimating like his ability to delegate.

02:26:27.900 This is something that Donald Trump does great.

02:26:29.520 But if I was him, if I was Epstein, I would create, uh, like numerous, over 50 years,

02:26:35.960 you create numerous networks that would do for sure.

02:26:39.180 They would be micro networks and they'd be doing like menial tasks of what I would want

02:26:43.760 to be done with like less power.

02:26:45.160 But you can extend your reach really like, it can be into every single thing as we read

02:26:49.980 in the files.

02:26:50.900 Right.

02:26:51.240 It's just like what he had his hands on.

02:26:53.360 He actually was manipulating.

02:26:55.240 Maybe he just signed off on some shit, you know?

02:26:57.080 Yeah.

02:26:57.340 He just knew how to place and people here and there get these systems in place.

02:27:00.500 If you, if you watch the latest Tucker Carl episode with Ian Carroll, they go into how

02:27:06.920 he's partially responsible for, uh, the 2008 financial crisis and there's receipts, you

02:27:12.580 know, it's, it's his, it's the bonds or whatever they were.

02:27:16.600 I'm not financially savvy or I don't have that terminology, but he was buying something

02:27:21.440 through the bank Bear Stearns where he initially started his career after the Dalton school without

02:27:27.220 any formal education or experience at all.

02:27:30.340 He was doing something through Bear Stearns that when he called all his options, started

02:27:38.420 or pulled the thread for the 2008 collapse and the first bank to go under, which started

02:27:42.360 everything else, Bear Stearns, the one that he basically, what he did signaled everybody

02:27:47.080 else to start pulling and everything just started imploding.

02:27:49.780 He created the avalanche of bank.

02:27:51.120 I think about it.

02:27:51.640 He's already, he's already in bed, uh, pun intended with these elites.

02:27:56.660 So if 10 of them get together in a room after they just did something nefarious to some

02:28:02.720 children and are like, dude, you realize if we just all did this thing with these banks,

02:28:08.840 you realize we can make billions of dollars by shorting the markets and by the collapse.

02:28:14.700 And then, and then JP Morgan, you could just scoop up all these banks for pennies on the

02:28:18.140 dollar after they collapse.

02:28:19.500 Yeah.

02:28:19.980 Let the goyim deal with the, with the real world.

02:28:22.140 It's goyim.

02:28:22.480 You know, my thing is just like, it just seems like such an unlikelihood that everything

02:28:28.740 that we've been pulling on every thread that we've been pulling on for the last 20 years

02:28:32.520 is part of Jeffrey Epstein sweater.

02:28:34.380 It doesn't feel, it feels so unlikely.

02:28:37.660 That's not typically how it doesn't feel good like that.

02:28:40.960 It's all one thing.

02:28:41.880 And we go, Oh, Eureka, look at us.

02:28:43.560 Look how smart we were.

02:28:44.540 We were all pointing at the right thing.

02:28:46.040 It makes me look like, like I'm smart and I know it's not the case.

02:28:49.920 It makes me feel like I've been picking up breadcrumbs that somebody has been leaving

02:28:53.920 for me and they want me to come to the conclusion that Epstein is this mastermind behind all

02:28:58.500 things.

02:28:59.020 Good boy.

02:28:59.500 Okay.

02:28:59.780 Okay.

02:29:00.380 Okay.

02:29:01.280 That's true.

02:29:02.300 It does make you feel that way, but it doesn't mean that it's wrong.

02:29:07.340 And that's why you have to ask who unleashed and who was he working for?

02:29:12.500 Right.

02:29:13.300 And when, when I'll, I'll just, I'll read it to you.

02:29:17.380 Uh, revelation, not revelation, John 830.

02:29:22.280 I'm sorry.

02:29:22.700 John 839.

02:29:23.720 They answered him.

02:29:25.020 Abraham is our father.

02:29:26.920 Jesus said to them, if you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works of Abraham.

02:29:34.540 But now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth and heard from God.

02:29:40.820 This is not what Abraham did.

02:29:43.020 You are doing the works your father did.

02:29:46.400 They said to him, we are not born of sexual immorality.

02:29:51.040 Uh, we have one father, even God.

02:29:54.400 Jesus said to them, if God were your father, you would love me.

02:30:00.000 I came from God and I am here.

02:30:02.380 I came not on my own accord, but he sent me.

02:30:05.980 Why do you not understand what I say?

02:30:09.140 It is because you cannot bear to hear my words.

02:30:12.660 You are of your father, the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires.

02:30:18.480 He was a murderer from the beginning and he does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him.

02:30:24.000 So, when a state unleashes a Satanist perpetrator like Epstein upon the world for their own benefit, right, it is because that state is acting satanically.

02:30:38.560 We have to, we have to end it there as Christians.

02:30:42.820 When a state is satanic, we cannot support them.

02:30:46.620 We cannot support them, you know?

02:30:48.220 And what we do, us three here, is open people's eyes up, help them see the light, and point them to Jesus Christ, as opposed to the satanic state that is doing this evil shit.

02:31:04.400 Instead of getting caught up, this is, I struggle with this too, instead of getting caught up with trying to unravel the Epstein files and aliens and like, all of that is a means.

02:31:14.540 Those are all talking points to direct back to Christ for us.

02:31:19.340 And it's hard not to get swept up in the evil because it's so evil and all I want to do is like, go postal.

02:31:25.880 You know what I'm saying?

02:31:27.020 But, can't do that.

02:31:29.400 We got to let Christ be the one who exhausts vengeance on these assholes, you know?

02:31:34.740 All we need to do is try to get as many people to Christ as freaking possible.

02:31:40.060 That's why we have to hit the drum every time.

02:31:41.700 Even if, no matter what topic we're talking about, back to Christ, back to Christ, back to Christ, every freaking time.

02:31:46.000 Here's one last thing that came across my head because you're talking about the state of Israel, all this stuff.

02:31:51.660 It's just like the Dead Sea Scrolls, discovered in 1947.

02:31:56.540 Yeah, that makes me feel not so great about the Nephilim and the Book of Enoch.

02:32:00.160 But the Nephilim, it's true, and people didn't know about this before.

02:32:04.160 It is true.

02:32:04.600 But since 1947, there's been this concerted effort and push in all directions from MKUltra to the State of Israel to the Truman Doctrine to you name it.

02:32:14.440 They're pushing it all out, and it has to start at this point to culminate to right now with what we're doing.

02:32:19.180 But the Nephilim angle looks like from 1947, it appears to me, there has to be the spiritual reawakening in America.

02:32:28.260 And this is kind of what did it.

02:32:31.480 We play our part in it, but you got to be awake spiritually.

02:32:36.220 You can't be spiritually dead.

02:32:37.780 It's not going to be MTV.

02:32:39.980 It's not going to be the 90s.

02:32:42.080 And that time period wasn't better than now.

02:32:45.860 Everybody was just more blinded to the evil around you.

02:32:49.760 That stuff existed for many years.

02:32:51.680 That's what I'm saying, yeah.

02:32:52.460 All of this is like we're just waking up to the condition that the world has been in.

02:32:56.320 I think ancient people were keenly aware of the condition of the world.

02:33:00.540 We were stripped of our spiritual understanding, entered a materialistic paradigm, and then were put under the illusion that we were sophisticated, sufficiently sophisticated,

02:33:09.320 where systems like this didn't exist anymore.

02:33:11.340 I mean, you saw that happen when people started realizing that, you know, Libya turned into this open-air slave trade.

02:33:16.940 And there's still slavery in the world?

02:33:18.780 I thought we got rid of slavery.

02:33:20.000 It's like we're, we are retarded in so many different ways.

02:33:24.620 The world never changed.

02:33:26.040 And right now we're having the curtain pulled back on all these things that we allowed ourselves to believe because it's awfully comfy here in the West.

02:33:33.040 But it's also like the internet.

02:33:34.400 Like, the elites unleash this thing, the Dead Sea Scrolls being one of them, and it's their weapon.

02:33:41.500 But like the internet, they unleash the internet so that way they can have this kind of octopus of global control, this net that goes around that will surveil and do a number of other things.

02:33:50.600 But it's a double-edged sword because it also gives the people that it's being utilized on the ability to take it and subvert it from its original intent.

02:33:59.560 And I think that's what, that's what constantly happens.

02:34:03.760 So, I don't know.

02:34:05.680 Were we wrong for talking about the Nephilim?

02:34:08.160 No, because it's true.

02:34:09.960 But.

02:34:10.480 They're real.

02:34:11.140 They're real.

02:34:11.920 But we have to be very careful where we point that thing inside of a coffee shop.

02:34:20.560 And you lost your license.

02:34:22.780 Oh, shit.

02:34:23.840 It's Florida, baby.

02:34:24.900 Oh, damn.

02:34:26.300 We did it, boys.

02:34:27.000 Yeah, yeah, dude.

02:34:29.360 This is a great conversation.

02:34:30.720 I'm glad we did this.

02:34:31.600 You did a much better job on our show than we did on your show.

02:34:34.980 Before we get out of here, let's remind everybody, Ben, where they can support you and where they can go and see this supposed co-host that you have that may not be AI, may not be a real dude at all.

02:34:48.120 Where can people find your brother?

02:34:49.860 Ben is the menace pod on all platforms.

02:34:53.440 That's it.

02:34:54.760 I got you here.

02:34:55.340 Let me just pull it up.

02:34:56.240 Yeah, dude.

02:34:56.980 We're going to pull up some things.

02:34:57.940 You said it too quick.

02:34:58.700 Say it again.

02:34:59.280 Instagram following here.

02:35:00.040 But say it slowly.

02:35:01.540 Ben is the menace pod on all platforms.

02:35:06.140 That's it right there, guys.

02:35:08.100 Go follow Ben and his supposed friend Dennis, who probably doesn't exist.

02:35:12.200 Probably isn't real.

02:35:13.260 Give him a follow and let them know that we sent you.

02:35:17.480 Yeah, also, when you figure out a dude.

02:35:20.580 Say the N word in there, chat.

02:35:21.560 No, don't do that.

02:35:22.100 So they know.

02:35:22.980 Once you figure out who to get as a co-host and then lie to us and tell us that this is a man named Dennis, reach out so that you can come back on because you're doing a great job solo.

02:35:38.020 I'm sure you crush when you have the homie with you.

02:35:41.620 We'd love to have you back on and get to meet Dennis.

02:35:45.740 Yeah.

02:35:45.980 He's definitely my emotional support human because I'll go full autist if I'm by myself and Dennis will reel me in.

02:35:56.600 But hey, there's no way I could do a show by myself in a camera.

02:36:01.800 I need people to talk to.

02:36:06.220 So that's why I have a co-host.

02:36:08.180 It's cool.

02:36:09.280 I could do a show like this, an interview solo, because I got you two to talk to and bounce straight off of.

02:36:13.400 But if I'm just talking to a camera, I'm probably just going to say, uh, uh, and freeze a button.

02:36:19.900 Somebody clip that.

02:36:23.280 Yeah, man.

02:36:24.000 Like I said, reach out to us and let us know.

02:36:26.080 We'd love to have you back on and get to actually meet this fictional character.

02:36:31.120 Thank you, brother.

02:36:32.100 This is a blast.

02:36:33.120 Guys, until next time.

02:36:34.640 Don't forget to obey, submit and comply.

02:36:37.100 We'll see you later.

02:36:43.400 And they will do it again.

02:36:47.780 The end is written in the book.

02:36:51.100 In the pages they foresaw.

02:36:55.780 Death Squad.

02:36:59.400 Death Squad.

02:37:03.400 Death Squad.

02:37:05.400 Death Squad.

02:37:07.400 When the last trumpet sounds.

02:37:20.600 And the heavens.

Nephilim Death Squad - February 19, 2026

Meme Culture, Chaos w⧸ Ben of Bennis the Menace

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