Nephilim Death Squad - NDS on Let's Get Freaky w⧸ Tommy Collum

00:00:00.000 okay guys welcome back to the let's get freaky podcast i am super excited we have got two

00:00:06.600 awesome guests on the show today these guys are absolutely fantastic i've been honored to be on

00:00:11.360 their show before it's absolutely amazing uh we've got david aka the raven and top lobstart

00:00:18.120 from the nephilim death squad guys welcome thank you so much for being here man thank you thank you

00:00:23.540 for having us it's it's early here in america it's not too early it's it's 10 a.m i know what

00:00:27.560 You said it's like, it's 10 a.m.

00:00:28.980 I know it's 10 a.m.

00:00:29.660 Well, that's the life of a podcaster.

00:00:32.200 We work in a coffee shop, too.

00:00:33.780 No excuses.

00:00:34.780 No excuses.

00:00:36.460 Thank you for having us, dude.

00:00:37.600 It's a pleasure to be here.

00:00:38.560 Yeah, we've had you on our show a couple times.

00:00:41.440 Great episodes, great conversations.

00:00:43.020 So honored to be on your show.

00:00:44.900 Thanks for having us, brother.

00:00:46.420 It's an honor to have you guys.

00:00:48.100 You guys are awesome.

00:00:49.060 The people that are listening right now, you've got an amazing studio.

00:00:52.560 You've got a CAF there as well, which is incredible.

00:00:55.080 A podcast, a CAF, a studio.

00:00:56.880 And you guys are just growing this empire

00:00:59.520 And it's amazing to see

00:01:01.040 As a fan, I'm loving it

00:01:02.940 Yeah, we're growing something

00:01:04.900 Yeah, I don't know what we're doing, to be honest

00:01:06.700 We're growing in all directions

00:01:08.860 Kind of like weeds

00:01:10.980 If you ask the local town that we're in

00:01:13.440 They're growing a tumor

00:01:15.400 We're like a

00:01:17.260 We're a plague on this place

00:01:19.660 I don't think they're fans of what we're doing here

00:01:21.340 Which is fine

00:01:22.240 And understandable

00:01:23.080 For anyone that doesn't know

00:01:26.180 Where are you guys based?

00:01:28.220 So we're in Florida, in America, if you guys couldn't tell by the accents.

00:01:33.460 I know you said the vast majority of your audience is American.

00:01:36.300 It's interesting how that plays out.

00:01:38.800 And we're actually, right now, for anybody who's a listener in Florida,

00:01:43.280 we have our studios in the standard coffee shop in Lady Lake, Florida.

00:01:47.320 So you guys are more than welcome to.

00:01:48.740 I mean, Matt, do you want to say hi?

00:01:50.160 You want to say hi, Matt?

00:01:51.720 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:52.280 Hurry up and come over here. 1.00

00:01:53.340 Come on now. 1.00

00:01:54.140 Just quit screwing around. 0.95

00:01:55.420 We don't have much time. 0.90

00:01:56.500 Come say hi.

00:01:57.220 And I called it a cafe as well.

00:01:58.660 It's a coffee shop. 0.97

00:01:59.420 Yeah, look at that.

00:02:00.260 Who's your football team in England, bro?

00:02:02.400 Nice to meet you, man.

00:02:03.280 A team called Leighton Orient.

00:02:05.060 Leighton Orient?

00:02:06.320 Oh, you don't?

00:02:06.940 Who about Premier League?

00:02:09.480 Premier League.

00:02:10.240 Well, my local team is Bournemouth.

00:02:11.620 So AFC Bournemouth would be my local team.

00:02:14.620 Bournemouth.

00:02:15.060 Bournemouth, yeah.

00:02:15.540 My local team.

00:02:16.080 Nice.

00:02:16.680 I knew I liked this guy.

00:02:18.760 I'm sorry.

00:02:19.260 This is the point in the show where you say, Matt, you got to leave.

00:02:21.320 Yeah, Matt, get out of here.

00:02:22.340 Cut it out, man.

00:02:23.140 Matt, what's your team?

00:02:24.240 Yeah, he said, what's your team? 1.00

00:02:29.040 He's going to make some shit up right now. 1.00

00:02:30.580 No, no. 0.99

00:02:31.000 The problem is I got TV a couple years ago for the NFL,

00:02:34.980 and I didn't realize they had, like, Premier League on regular TV in America now,

00:02:40.120 like on USA, like on regular channels.

00:02:42.140 So I flicked it on, and, bro, it was just like a counterattack,

00:02:46.220 one touch from, like, Alexander Arnold to Van Dyke to Henderson to Salah to Mane.

00:02:54.240 And just like an incredible goal.

00:02:56.400 And I never watched the NFL the rest of the season.

00:02:58.460 So right then, I fell in love with Liverpool.

00:03:00.300 But when they got rid of Mane, they were just not that fun.

00:03:02.540 And then Diego Jota's gone.

00:03:04.180 I'll be honest.

00:03:04.980 He could just be making stuff up.

00:03:06.880 No, no.

00:03:07.480 He knows.

00:03:07.940 He knows, bro.

00:03:08.520 No, it's facts.

00:03:09.300 This is a great fight.

00:03:09.960 Get out of here, Matt.

00:03:11.100 Anyway, that's Matt.

00:03:13.420 He's all right.

00:03:14.880 But yeah, if you guys are out in Florida, that's where we're at,

00:03:17.660 of Standard Coffee Shop slash NDS Studios.

00:03:20.600 And we always encourage people, yeah, stop by.

00:03:22.460 Come say hi and come hang out.

00:03:24.140 We're here typically like five days a week.

00:03:26.460 You'll walk in, and there's a high likelihood you'll find us here.

00:03:29.780 Yes, and if you do make it here, I do have like little trinkets and stuff that I give people.

00:03:34.640 This is psychotic.

00:03:35.800 This isn't how a show usually goes, but we've been just making this little guy here.

00:03:42.400 He's all caked up. 0.99

00:03:43.780 Don't show his butt on. 1.00

00:03:45.180 It's unbelievable. 1.00

00:03:46.420 This is a family show.

00:03:47.540 But, yeah, you can find Nephilim Death Squad anywhere you find your podcasts, you know,

00:03:51.960 Except for Rumble.

00:03:52.960 We've abandoned Rumble because we don't like them anymore.

00:03:55.900 But elsewhere, you'll be able to find us anywhere you listen to podcasts.

00:04:00.080 Well, your show is awesome, guys.

00:04:01.900 I have to say, it was very surreal just hearing you say Leighton Orient there.

00:04:06.400 We're a very small site.

00:04:07.620 We don't get talked about a lot on big podcasts.

00:04:12.580 That's very funny.

00:04:13.440 It's quite a surreal moment.

00:04:14.040 That's very funny.

00:04:14.880 The things that are meaningful to Tommy.

00:04:17.900 Yeah.

00:04:18.720 And we were talking about shoes before we started.

00:04:20.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:21.960 man yeah so so i'd like to go to the start of both of your journeys where what got you into

00:04:30.720 these topics could you get into some pretty deep topics uh hidden history um spiritual battle

00:04:37.100 spiritual warfare where where does this where did where did the journey start i mean rock paper

00:04:41.140 scissors all right rock paper scissors says no see this is a whole thing what are you doing dude

00:04:45.140 you gotta go you go you play rock paper scissors says shoot now that's nobody does that please

00:04:50.020 we're not doing this again no no no no it's rock paper scissors shoot that's when you all right

00:04:55.200 rock paper scissors shoot all right you go all right fine i'll go you won uh so for me um i had

00:05:02.080 a really strange very similar to to your story tommy that you were we were discussing on uh on

00:05:06.740 our recent episode on nds um i had you know a strange upbringing i saw a lot of uh supernatural

00:05:14.440 things, shadow people, you know, sleep paralysis, you name it, that kind of run-of-the-mill

00:05:21.200 experience, and it turns out that it was probably because of what the Bible calls generational

00:05:26.460 iniquity.

00:05:27.020 My grandmother, she was clairvoyant, you know, New Age practitioner kind of a character,

00:05:31.680 and I think that opened up a lot of spiritual doorways, you know, so the future generations.

00:05:36.240 I'm not the only one in my family line who's got a lot of strange stuff going on, and so

00:05:40.660 So those experiences in childhood made me fascinated with the supernatural and the unexplainable.

00:05:46.240 And and, you know, I wouldn't accept people's dismissal of the phenomenon.

00:05:51.360 They would say, oh, it's just a dream. Oh, it's just this and that.

00:05:53.880 Or you didn't really see what you thought you saw. And that bled into conspiracy theory.

00:05:58.420 And I was also unwilling to accept the dismissal of, you know, conspiracies.

00:06:03.040 If you told me they weren't spraying the skies, it was very obvious to me.

00:06:05.980 If you told me there wasn't symbolism in pop culture, in Hollywood, in the music industry, I would say clearly there is.

00:06:13.320 And so I wouldn't take no for an answer. From a young age, I was super obsessed with it.

00:06:19.040 And and it took a long time. But, you know, experience after experience and what is now amounted to 20 years of conspiracy sleuthing at around year 16, 17, I pivoted.

00:06:34.280 I had an experience, and maybe we'll get into it today, that was inherently demonic, and I wasn't raised religious, but from that moment forward, I pivoted, I oriented towards Christ, and one thing led to another, and I ended up linking up with this guy.

00:06:51.820 we started doing this show and i'm very much in a position now where i feel like you know if it's

00:06:57.400 a refining fire if it's the trials and tribulations that god puts you through to prepare you for a

00:07:01.720 thing all of those things the supernatural experiences the conspiracy sleuthing all led

00:07:06.280 in my opinion to this this place here where we're having conversations with guys like you

00:07:10.960 um and and you know so it's it's been a weird long journey but you know we had that discussion

00:07:17.940 with you on on that recent episode and i asked you a similar question like what why do you think

00:07:22.880 these things happen to you and um you know so it's a generational thing maybe i tend to think

00:07:29.380 that it is and uh it's a it's a domino effect a very strange odyssey that leads to this point

00:07:34.740 but yeah that's that's how i got here interesting man sometimes when we have these experiences when

00:07:40.300 we're younger and we like accept those experiences it's it's it's undeniable this stuff is real yeah

00:07:46.740 We know it's real. We have these experiences. Can I ask what took place when you were 16, 17, did you say?

00:07:53.120 Well, no, I'm sorry. What I meant was like 16, 17 years into my conspiracy journey.

00:07:59.140 So by the time I had an experience that that oriented me towards Christ, I was already a married man with a with a with a child.

00:08:07.640 But I'll give you the the sort of the abridged version of it.

00:08:11.960 Um, what, what ends up happening is, uh, I think I was feeding something.

00:08:17.400 I was in a sort of depressive state and I was anxious and I was angry.

00:08:21.960 I was resentful and, um, and I was distant, you know, in my marriage and I was distant

00:08:27.620 as a father.

00:08:29.400 And it was because I was dealing with these feelings of, of being a failure.

00:08:32.640 Now, I think that these things that, you know, you agree, Tommy, they're, they're very real.

00:08:38.360 Um, once you have an experience, you know, that's why it's very hard when people try

00:08:41.500 to tell you it's not real it's like dude you until you experience it um i simply can't have this

00:08:46.840 this conversation with you if you're going to try to tell me that you know what i saw or what i felt

00:08:50.840 or what i experienced was not real um and so based off of that i already believe these things were

00:08:57.080 real now i understand that you feed them they have an energetic parasitic relationship with an

00:09:02.080 individual and they feed off of low vibrational energy some of the big baddies they will they'll

00:09:08.840 accept worship worship is a great energetic exchange for them but on the lower levels i 0.96

00:09:13.300 think and they'll probably accept worship if you're dumb enough to give it to them but 0.92

00:09:15.960 mostly they feed off of extreme emotion and they'll take fear you know if they can get that 0.98

00:09:21.840 and they'll take uh sadness and things like that so i'm feeding something and it turns into this

00:09:26.760 this saga this four night saga where uh one night i i i come home and you know i'm in this slump

00:09:33.520 and i go to sleep and um my i'm suddenly woken up by by the sound of somebody knocking

00:09:42.620 and it's real late at night and i pop out of bed and i go and i look out the window

00:09:48.000 and nobody's there at the door i can see i'm on the second story we're at the in-laws house this

00:09:53.180 is like kind of the feelings of failure like we're living with the in-laws after getting our

00:09:56.540 ass kicked in another state we couldn't cut it out there so we had to crash at their place

00:10:00.680 and uh nobody's at the door so i go i must have just been hearing things and i go back to sleep

00:10:05.920 and as soon as i drift off boom boom boom boom it happens again so i i spring up and i get up i go

00:10:13.280 to the thing nobody's at the door i can see again and and i notice nobody's hearing this like my

00:10:19.140 wife's not woken up my son who's sleeping on an air mattress at the foot of the bed he's not woken

00:10:23.060 up the in-laws aren't turning on the lights and going to investigate so i'm going like this has

00:10:27.840 to be I must be hearing things I don't know what to make of this sounds so real though and I get

00:10:33.840 back in bed I'm a little spooked out and I managed to drift off and it happens again dude and so I

00:10:40.040 don't get much sleep that night I'm just like scrolling on my phone maybe I get a couple of

00:10:43.900 hours and I wake up the next day for work and that night you know the same situation kind of takes

00:10:50.060 place where I'm drifting off to sleep and I feel something pull my arm. And I'm kind of of the mind

00:10:59.800 that I'm just spasming. So I, you know, I pull my arm back and I go back to sleep. As soon as I drift

00:11:06.180 off, it happens again. And this time I put my arms under the blanket because I feel like, you know,

00:11:11.920 sometimes you drift off, you start to spasm, you start to like jerk a little bit. And maybe the

00:11:16.760 weight of the blanket will at least keep me from because I'm my arms going all the way up in the

00:11:20.800 air and that's part of what's waking me up is it's like fully extended and uh so I'm like all

00:11:25.380 right the weight of the blanket will cut that out next thing I know I drift off something grabs my

00:11:29.540 ankle and pulls my leg and I'm upset man like I don't know what to do I I can't get sleep I'm not

00:11:37.260 telling my wife this I'm not telling my son this certainly you know I'm not going to share this

00:11:40.880 with the in-laws but this is two strange nights in a row and I'm just getting a little bit stressed

00:11:44.720 out and I'm definitely not getting a lot of sleep. So that night I was so creeped out because it

00:11:49.440 really felt like something grabbed my leg that I didn't go to sleep practically till the sun came

00:11:54.160 up. And then you wake up early and you go to work. And, you know, so I'm thinking about this

00:11:59.840 throughout the day. I don't know what to make of it. And I kind of share it a little bit with some

00:12:03.260 of the coworkers and, you know, what they thought of it. It was just like a light conversation. But

00:12:07.060 But that night, you know, I go back, go through the routine, go to sleep.

00:12:12.900 And this time I have this nightmare.

00:12:17.720 And in this nightmare, I can see this guy.

00:12:20.600 He's, you know, humanoid looking.

00:12:23.080 And his skin looks like black and gray cheetah print.

00:12:27.400 But it's not furry at all.

00:12:30.480 You know, it's just regular skin. 0.62

00:12:31.420 But that's the pattern on his skin is like black and gray blotches.

00:12:35.220 And he's very muscular.

00:12:37.060 um and he's full of rage his fists are balled up and clenched and his chest is like you know uh

00:12:48.920 rising and collapsing he's because he's breathing so hard like with all this anger and i'm just

00:12:53.760 viewing him you know it's it's like a void a black void and i can just see this i'm not i'm not aware

00:12:59.660 of my body or anything like that and there's a black mist swirling around his legs

00:13:05.140 and his lower canid teeth are so big that they're overlapping his upper lip

00:13:12.180 and the and the most striking detail was his eyes his eyes were red but they were like lights

00:13:20.340 they were like so red you know that it was like brake lights or like you know just that kind of

00:13:27.360 self-illuminating red eyes and he just looks like rage incarnate you know and um

00:13:35.020 um and I'm looking at it and that's it I could just remember I don't know how long I was there

00:13:38.320 how long I'm staring at this thing but I'm just taking it all in and I wake up in the morning

00:13:43.840 and I'm like shit man I haven't told anybody about this you know I haven't shared it with 0.69

00:13:46.680 my wife and I'm just like this is just getting worse and worse and all of a sudden my wife 0.98

00:13:50.540 wakes up and she goes man I had a nightmare last night and I go okay you know I don't I'm just

00:13:57.160 I'm playing it cool I'm like yeah go ahead tell me more and she goes well I woke up in bed and

00:14:03.620 and I, I was in the room, but I couldn't move. And I said, um, you know, immediately my mind

00:14:09.780 goes to sleep paralysis, but she doesn't, she's never had that. You know what I mean? So she

00:14:14.080 didn't know how to explain it exactly. She's just like, yeah, it just felt like my whole body was

00:14:17.620 stuck, but I could move my eyes. And she goes, she looked over to me because she got this sense

00:14:23.860 that I was like in danger. And on my chest choking me into the bed is this black monster with 0.98

00:14:32.980 big teeth and red eyes and it's it's choking me into the bed and i go oh oh that's crazy like 0.85

00:14:43.960 like i don't know yeah dude i don't know what to say i don't want to say anything i don't i want

00:14:49.500 it to go away i have no recourse and in my mind it's so terrifying this is such a reality that

00:14:55.920 like the only thing i can think of to defend myself is like if you don't talk about it maybe

00:15:01.760 it'll just go away. Like maybe it'll stop. It felt like if I talked about it, I was going to feed

00:15:05.600 into it and it was going to get worse. So I still don't tell her about it, dude. She just tells me

00:15:11.180 this story. I go, that's crazy. And then I go to work, you know, and I live the same life on repeat

00:15:16.460 and I come home that night. I go to sleep, dude. And this night feels okay. Nothing happens that's

00:15:23.940 remarkable until the morning. And in the morning, my wife wakes me up and she's taking a video and

00:15:30.420 she wants to show me this video apparently when I was sleeping I was so in distress that you could

00:15:36.640 see where you would place your fingers on someone's neck to check their pulse that you know part of my

00:15:42.040 neck is throbbing it's pumping like there's blood is pumping like I'm like in this you know struggle

00:15:47.180 session of a dream so she takes a video which by the way I found the video recently and I remember

00:15:53.080 it being like 10 seconds she recorded me for a minute so she just let me hang out in this

00:15:58.580 distressed mode for like a minute um so she wakes me up she shows me this i'm watching this i'm

00:16:03.680 going damn dude still haven't shared with her what's going on still have all this information

00:16:08.220 in my head of course this plugs right into it and it's just making it so much worse and as i'm 0.99

00:16:13.020 watching the video my son who's at the foot of the bed on a twin size air mattress starts screaming

00:16:18.880 but he's still asleep and he is screaming like you know if you got kids anybody who's listening

00:16:25.180 out there there's different screams and there's certain screams that when they happen you burst

00:16:30.780 up out of whatever you're doing because something is definitely wrong so we get up and this kid is

00:16:36.860 screaming and all of a sudden he sits up and he's still asleep and he's still screaming and we grab

00:16:43.880 him and we're trying to console him and we're trying to calm him down he finally wakes up

00:16:47.900 still screaming this is like a while you know before we can finally get him calm enough

00:16:53.780 to get even a word out he was real young so it's not like he had a great grasp of language in the

00:16:58.820 first place he might have been like five i think at the time maybe yeah something like that and so

00:17:05.500 um obviously you know he's tall he's a chatty kid um once he finally gets his wits about him to say 0.99

00:17:11.640 anything all he can say is a monster with red eyes and i'm like fuck this is a problem yeah dude 0.99

00:17:23.200 And I don't, I still haven't figured it out, Tommy. 1.00

00:17:26.340 I don't have any recourse.

00:17:28.540 I'm a conspiracy theorist.

00:17:30.160 I'm very comfortable with the reality of the spiritual realm.

00:17:34.280 Arming yourself against it, you know, not something that I've ever had to consider.

00:17:39.620 You know, I've had these things, they happen throughout my life, but once they happen,

00:17:42.760 you move on and there's no thought of like really doing anything about it.

00:17:49.040 But then it happens to my wife and there's a sense of urgency.

00:17:52.160 and I feel like I've got to do something about it thank you very much and then you know as I'm

00:17:57.760 trying to figure it out because now I have this protector thing I'm the husband I'm the head of

00:18:01.380 the household I got to figure out how to all of a sudden only 24 hours later it's not a lot of time

00:18:07.200 to prepare not not a lot of time to figure it out 24 hours later it's happening to my son now it's

00:18:14.040 like all alarms are going off and I have to figure this out dude I had zero recourse zero recourse

00:18:22.040 I'm in the house with the in-laws.

00:18:23.460 I'm not going to sage the house.

00:18:24.720 I don't believe in that anyway.

00:18:25.660 I don't think that's a good idea.

00:18:26.600 Now I understand.

00:18:27.440 I think all you're doing is you're appeasing a spiritual entity by giving it a burnt offering.

00:18:33.300 I think that's what's happening, that you often give spirits, burnt offerings, tobacco, whatever.

00:18:40.260 Sage, I think, is just something that appeases it temporarily, and then it comes back stronger.

00:18:43.820 It always does.

00:18:44.720 Side note, that's a mistake that my aunt made time and time again.

00:18:48.400 Yeah.

00:18:48.840 All you're doing is you're making offerings to it.

00:18:51.180 It stops, and then it peaks again, and it stops, but it's like Bitcoin always going high.

00:18:56.860 So, I mean, it's almost anticlimactic, except it's not, in my opinion, just given where it all led.

00:19:03.560 The next night, I've got no recourse, and night is here, and I'm getting ready to go to bed.

00:19:10.600 We're up to the line now, and I've not got a master plan.

00:19:16.860 I've not got anything figured out.

00:19:18.860 All I know is this thing is seemingly getting stronger and my family is now in danger.

00:19:24.440 And so for the first time in my life, I pray to Jesus Christ.

00:19:29.520 Now, I've prayed before.

00:19:30.980 I've talked to this amorphous concept of God.

00:19:34.040 You know, I've got I've had a hard life, been homeless and things like that.

00:19:37.300 And so in those times of desperation, you have conversations with God.

00:19:40.540 But it's it's non-directive.

00:19:42.760 It's non-specific.

00:19:44.280 It's just like God, the universe, the guy who created everything and surely is watching over me.

00:19:48.420 This was the first time I prayed directly to Jesus Christ, and I was desperate, dude.

00:19:55.620 I mean desperate.

00:19:56.640 And if you, biblically speaking, Christ has a tendency to appear to those who are at their lowest.

00:20:02.040 I would say that all the things that I've been through in my life never had a tremendous care of self, but as a caretaker, as a father, and as a husband, this is something I really care about.

00:20:13.540 Lots of things can happen to me, and I'll be fine, but this is happening to them, and I've got to deal with it.

00:20:16.800 And so the desperation was like off the charts, dude.

00:20:19.700 And when I tell you, it stopped like on a dime.

00:20:25.580 Nothing happened in that place from that moment forward.

00:20:29.000 And, you know, ultimately, it still took a while.

00:20:33.740 What I did was I oriented towards God.

00:20:37.120 I went, OK, you've got my attention now and you've definitely got, I would say, something akin to loyalty because I'm not going to turn my back on somebody.

00:20:45.960 that came to me in that hour of desperation and helped me with possibly the most important thing

00:20:51.700 in my life can i can i say something go ahead there's an observation about this point of the

00:20:56.160 story that i always make it's like if you get somebody in and not to insult david please go

00:21:01.580 ahead i'm gonna insult david all right like like dudes like me and david we're not like smart guys

00:21:07.820 intellectuals right that you would say like uh we're not going to give you a good debate thesis

00:21:13.160 We're going to give you rough-around-the-edges commentary with a little bit of comedy.

00:21:17.400 If you ask me if I read a book, the answer will always be no.

00:21:20.500 Yeah, most likely no.

00:21:21.440 So shout out to Seth Kicklighter and his book.

00:21:26.980 But there's a thing about that kind of person, especially like the blue-collar dude, the guy that's like middlingly intelligent, can express a thought but isn't overly intellectual, where something like this happens to you and you go,

00:21:43.080 That's it.

00:21:44.120 Okay, we figured out we've diagnosed this issue.

00:21:46.760 More of that.

00:21:48.360 It's almost like really simple when you think about it.

00:21:51.140 An intellectual will go, well, did this really happen?

00:21:55.600 And perhaps we should do this.

00:21:57.840 And it's like, what are you doing?

00:21:58.760 I used to be a fabricator, a welder and a fabricator.

00:22:01.840 There are the guys.

00:22:04.060 That's what I do now.

00:22:06.500 So there are guys, engineers, who are not in the field.

00:22:09.760 and they concoct an idea and they think about how it should go based off of all the numbers and

00:22:14.660 everything and then they would create a thing and it doesn't work in the field and they would come

00:22:19.280 to me and say why doesn't this thing work and i would say this is why it doesn't work here's what

00:22:22.660 will work how do i know because i'm actually there and i'm doing it and i don't need to know

00:22:27.180 all of the you know intellectual apparatus that goes into designing a thing in a 3d model and

00:22:33.200 then implementing it in real life i don't need that i'm sorry yeah that's a little bit uh i am

00:22:38.200 the guy that's there in the field that's testing it i don't need to know why it works initially

00:22:43.440 if i need results and it's giving me results then i'm going to keep doing it and i'm going to learn

00:22:49.300 as i go and that's exactly what happened it was like okay this has yielded good fruit i'm going

00:22:54.800 to orient towards it now i don't understand it you know it's going to be a process and i still

00:22:59.460 don't understand it entirely i probably never will but i've continued to test it i've continued

00:23:05.580 to face towards it i've continued to move in that direction and it has continued to yield good

00:23:10.120 results so i'm not yeah a theologian i'm not a guy who's reading all the books i'm a guy

00:23:14.400 much like you tommy right we've had these experiences those experiences are the field

00:23:19.940 we are the guys that are in the field who are figuring out what works and what doesn't work

00:23:24.380 and i just so happen to look you can find a hammer could be used for a job that's unorthodox

00:23:29.620 and doesn't require a hammer which you can still get it done you ever hammer a nail into a wall

00:23:33.380 with a wrench. I've done it. I've done that. I've done it. Right. And it's like, okay, but there is

00:23:38.520 a better tool for this job. So if you think it's appeasing it, if you think it's worshiping it,

00:23:43.300 if you think it's, it's aligning your chakra, it's like, yeah, maybe it'll work for a little

00:23:47.120 bit and maybe it'll work in some short instances, but there is a tool that's actually meant for

00:23:52.460 that job. And Jesus Christ is a hammer, dude. It's a hammer. And if we're dealing with nails,

00:23:58.160 you need a hammer. Sure, sure, sure. The wrench will work, but you need a hammer and you don't

00:24:02.060 need to theorize i don't need to understand how the claw hammer was designed who made it you know

00:24:06.500 what its purpose and intent was i don't need to understand its composition i just needed to go

00:24:10.080 this thing works really well almost like it was meant for this job and that's what's happened

00:24:15.180 to me over and over again man well i have to say someone who listens to your show guys you you are

00:24:22.500 smart dudes you are smart dudes but i know what you're saying i know what you're saying but that

00:24:27.540 man that gave me chills man when you said your wife and i knew you was going to say your son as

00:24:31.740 well experience the same thing you know how can you explain that for skeptical people you know

00:24:36.860 because when we have these experiences on our own you can say some of it could be in the mind and

00:24:41.020 stuff like that sure that that is an argument but when your your wife and your child are experiencing

00:24:45.900 that as well which i've experienced as well i've seen that in my own eyes too yeah how can you

00:24:50.320 explain that man there's no there's no that's what i'm saying other than we are being attacked

00:24:54.860 people will people will hear that and they'll go like well that's actually your daemon that's

00:25:00.280 shadow work. You need to integrate this. It's an aspect of yourself, or this is actually something

00:25:06.040 that's here testing you, or what you should have done was consulted the ascended masters, and

00:25:10.260 Christianity is just a control system, and yada, yada, yada, yada, like, I know it all, dude.

00:25:15.660 Conspiracy theorists for 20 years. I'm not saying I'm the best, I'm not the most well-versed,

00:25:21.520 but I am familiar with all of the things, and what I think I've done pretty well, if I had any

00:25:27.180 wisdom at all it was i will come up to a thing and i will understand it at a cursory level and 0.98

00:25:32.960 there will be something in me that it either resonates or it doesn't this is either bullshit 0.93

00:25:37.400 or it's not if you want to tell me it's all about the separat if you want to tell me it's about 0.95

00:25:41.320 jacob's ladder if you want to tell me it's about doing shadow work if you whatever if this is about

00:25:45.700 the archons this is about the demiurge if this is about you know the prison planet and all this 0.58

00:25:49.660 shit there there's something within me that it either resonates or it doesn't and this was like 0.97

00:25:56.320 beyond this was like i felt foolish i felt foolish i felt like through all my years of conspiracy 0.98

00:26:04.940 theory christianity the bible jesus christ has always been on the table and so many things in

00:26:12.140 conspiracy point right back to it and i would look at it and i would go maybe but it's a little

00:26:17.460 bit cringe and it's a little bit gay and i know some christians and they seem like simple people

00:26:22.400 and i don't think they've got it all figured out and i don't think that that's necessarily the 0.53

00:26:25.180 case. I don't think that just by virtue of going to a church, you've got it all figured out. In

00:26:29.220 fact, I know that that's not the case. And we're talking about maybe two different things. We're

00:26:33.820 talking about a system, which maybe you can have some criticisms of. And we're talking about a man

00:26:40.560 who came and died for our sins and overcame death. And through his name, we have this immense

00:26:47.120 spiritual authority over these things that are adversarial to us, that hate us, and that want to

00:26:52.640 corrupt us and want to lead us to sin and want to, you know, weaponize our own desires of the flesh 0.89

00:26:57.680 and shit like that against us. Right. Like those are two different things, a system, a building, 0.99

00:27:02.240 you know, that, that takes tithing and that plays music or whatever. Like, you know, if you want to

00:27:07.000 criticize that, that's a different conversation. And even that, I would say that's people doing

00:27:10.380 the best that they can, you know, at scale. But if you're talking about an individual level,

00:27:15.520 you can do better, but I have seen all that other stuff. And this made me feel foolish for leaving

00:27:22.620 it on the table for so many years for having so much great information point back to it and for 0.94

00:27:29.120 me to go like a little cringe little gay not yet not interesting not as interesting as whatever 0.76

00:27:33.820 the masons are doing not as interesting as whatever the oto is doing not as interesting as 0.87

00:27:37.840 this thing or that thing it just didn't do it for me because it felt so mainstream and cringy

00:27:43.320 and now i'm like oh that's by design that is by design that christianity that christ has been

00:27:50.500 painted with that brush, it's by design. And then now I understand that there is an actual

00:27:56.180 really beautiful, simple truth to it. It's that like, yeah, it is all complicated, right? These

00:28:01.740 people are worshiping entities and they are, you know, doing this work with the psychedelics and

00:28:08.440 their astral traveling and their remote viewing. And, you know, there's mystery schools that have

00:28:14.220 kept this and that. It's like, yeah, it is messy. And the spiritual realm is even crazier.

00:28:19.000 And it's almost like God cut right through it and was like, we got to give these dummies

00:28:22.320 something really simple, which I think is exactly what happened with Christ.

00:28:26.040 It got so crazy.

00:28:27.140 Everything is so crazy.

00:28:28.940 Grace is given freely.

00:28:31.140 Salvation is given freely, not by like doing the shadow work, not by learning the mystery

00:28:36.780 schools is what everybody gets upset about.

00:28:38.780 It's like, no, no, no.

00:28:39.320 What about all my coveted knowledge, dude?

00:28:40.920 It's like, no, no, not by your coveted knowledge, not by your works.

00:28:44.300 it is given freely through grace all you have to do is accept it repent you know go forth sit no 0.95

00:28:52.280 more it's like stupid easy that's a tough one right i saw you tweeting about lily phillips 0.98

00:28:56.740 today responding to a tweet about uh she's the girl i guess she's from where you're from yeah 1.00

00:29:02.440 yeah had sex with a thousand men something like that in a day wow i don't even think it was a 0.99

00:29:06.680 day i think it was 12 hours wow impressive it is impressive very cool um she uh you get in the uk 0.99

00:29:12.360 I think we have our own version.

00:29:15.120 Oh, no, you might have two of them. 0.97

00:29:16.360 Bonnie Blue is the other one.

00:29:17.440 Is she also British?

00:29:19.000 She's British, yeah. 0.95

00:29:20.640 Exceptional. 0.99

00:29:21.300 What's going on with America?

00:29:22.480 We're really slacking.

00:29:23.680 We're supposed to be the land of sin.

00:29:25.700 Yeah, all right.

00:29:26.140 We were number one at some point.

00:29:27.580 Come on.

00:29:29.040 So she got baptized. 0.97

00:29:32.080 And someone goes, can Christianity do this?

00:29:34.140 Can Christianity forgive her of her sins and make her a virgin again?

00:29:36.840 And it's like David just responds like, Christianity doesn't do that.

00:29:40.220 Yeah.

00:29:41.020 Jesus Christ does that.

00:29:42.360 And I'm like, yeah, that's exactly that's exactly what needs to be said there, because the comp the conflation between these two things gets very confusing.

00:29:51.640 And you start to, you know, the system in the man. Right. Yeah. Two different things. Yeah, it's but I mean, you know, that's it's been it's been a whirlwind, dude.

00:30:00.820 And I would say that after me and top linked up and we did this show and there's a lot of comedy and there's a lot of, you know, really crass language and we're assholes and we're terrible people.

00:30:10.120 And so, but within that show, there is this orientation towards Christ and there's this analyzing conspiracy through this new lens.

00:30:22.320 For me, it's a new lens, this biblical lens.

00:30:25.800 And it just continues to yield good fruit over and over and over again.

00:30:30.920 And that's the thing is like people go, people will see, you know, especially online though, but, oh, you're a Christian. 0.99

00:30:36.420 Therefore, you don't know the coveted shit that I know. 0.99

00:30:39.060 you don't know the the the mystery school shit that I know um and your worldview is simplistic 1.00

00:30:44.440 and I'm like both all of those things are incorrect I'm aware of the shit that you know 0.99

00:30:49.320 maybe I don't know it as intimately as you that's fine I'm not like this you know higher 0.96

00:30:52.720 intellectual or whatever but I'm aware of the crap that you believe um and I believed it to

00:30:57.900 some degree at some point as well but when I tell you that once I started to apply this lens 0.90

00:31:03.480 over and over and over again it doesn't fail it makes sense of everything every system that i

00:31:10.500 look at every conspiracy that i look at i look at i go oh okay yeah the bible actually does

00:31:15.200 address this it's just not what we're taught at all do you think that's why christianity seems to

00:31:21.380 be attacked the most and when i say attack the most i mean all religions get attacked but with

00:31:27.000 christianity especially it seems to kind of be accepted by the mainstream would you guys agree

00:31:32.620 yeah i mean you came from the uk as well you came from a comedy realm top so i'm sure you

00:31:38.220 could speak to like how easy it is to dunk on it you know to a round of applause yeah i but

00:31:44.140 you know what christians have also done that themselves in my opinion uh i grew up in the

00:31:48.920 church so i did see a lot of the cringe aspects of it i see a lot of i i was kicked out of the

00:31:54.580 church for, in a sense, being who I am. I spoke up and I spoke firmly to somebody in a position

00:32:04.200 of power, was kicked out. They deserve the reputation that they get. And so that's one

00:32:10.840 thing. But yeah, within the comedy realm, within America in general, it's very easy to dunk on

00:32:16.080 Christians because it's accepted. And the more you kind of look at it, you're like, well, why 0.98

00:32:21.360 is it accepted and also why does everybody go out of their way like adam green being the latest dude

00:32:27.360 he's uh he's like a gnostic on on twitter and he hates jesus christ but one of the most interesting

00:32:34.980 things that popped up about him recently i was like oh so jesus christ never existed is his big

00:32:39.860 thing and uh denying the denying god and all this stuff but he named his daughter khali after like

00:32:46.140 the god of destruction of like you know indian mythos and i'm just kind of like very interesting

00:32:50.840 So you'll adhere to that, but attack Jesus Christ freely, and that is okay by everybody. 0.72

00:32:57.820 You can't really, you know, you can't attack Judaism. 0.96

00:33:00.640 You can't attack Muslims.

00:33:02.960 Well, I guess you could, but, you know, they're protected in a certain way.

00:33:07.180 Well, that's, you know, there's like Islamophobia, right?

00:33:09.800 Yeah.

00:33:10.120 Or like anti-Semitism.

00:33:11.980 There's no word for Christian.

00:33:15.100 Anti-Christianism?

00:33:16.020 Yeah, there's no.

00:33:17.280 There's no.

00:33:18.020 There's not a word for it.

00:33:19.040 yeah it's never even mentioned it's never even discussed really on the mainstream no it's fine

00:33:24.700 that's that's fine they also kind of like paint them like they're the problem right because the

00:33:30.120 the christian the body of you know christians out there um are synonymous in some way shape or form

00:33:38.060 with the racist white male patriarchy you know it kind of goes into the same category so it's like

00:33:44.960 Not only is there—

00:33:46.280 That's also a misnomer.

00:33:47.580 Yeah.

00:33:48.080 So, yeah, I mean, not to go ahead and cry about the way Christians have been treated.

00:33:54.860 I think Christians have been treated very well in today's society.

00:33:58.060 Like, you were allowed to go to church and be outright Christian for now.

00:34:02.920 That wasn't the case all the time.

00:34:04.580 You know, like, after Jesus' day, these guys were persecuted like crazy.

00:34:08.380 Their skin was flayed.

00:34:09.640 They're hung upside down.

00:34:11.000 They're boiled in oil.

00:34:13.080 Not happening to us right now.

00:34:14.560 right so we can take the jokes and that's fine uh it's just yeah it is an interesting dynamic

00:34:21.800 that it is allowed yeah within america and i think it's not just a it's not that it's just

00:34:26.740 allowed it's it's encouraged and i think it's encouraged because it's a thing that works yeah

00:34:31.840 it's celebrated to it to a degree and it's actually hard because um i'm constantly trying

00:34:37.820 to square that where i have this comedic um bent and so does top and so you know we take to

00:34:44.820 roasting people making fun of people on the internet and we're pretty good at it and that's

00:34:50.120 not what people think of christians and and i don't know i i try to square that a lot like it's

00:34:55.860 like this concept of like turning the other yeah i guess there's an aspect of it but that's not me

00:35:00.520 they do a thing when after uh they've approached you and they've lost firmly they go hey why don't

00:35:06.320 you just like lay down yeah why don't you lay down and let me like trounce you like well here

00:35:11.780 here's a good example the rest of the christians and i'm like well that's just not me yeah that's

00:35:16.860 not me dog one of my buddies on twitter said uh the world is being primed for the arrival of the

00:35:21.500 antichrist and i said i'm gonna call him gay you know what i mean and it's but that doesn't fit

00:35:27.820 with what you think christianity is and and maybe it's not but maybe it's not i don't know i'm still

00:35:33.520 learning you know what i mean i this is like i said i had a life-changing experience that oriented

00:35:38.540 me towards this direction and i know i'm shedding a lot of who i was as i moved down this path but

00:35:45.640 there are certain things that i'm just not too sure that it's time to let go of i think that

00:35:49.440 these other things uh deserve ridicule i think if if an antichrist is coming he deserves to be

00:35:56.360 called gay you know what i mean and i don't think that he will be yeah he will be called gay he 0.94

00:36:00.060 probably will be yeah he probably will be gay uh but you know what i'm saying so it's a it's a

00:36:05.380 really weird arena to be in and because of that people will will say well you guys aren't really

00:36:11.720 christian or you guys don't really believe in christ i'm like you don't understand how much

00:36:14.880 i believe i probably believe more than you because i believe first and foremost that demons will

00:36:19.620 manifest shadow people are a real thing cryptids are a real thing there are actual monsters out

00:36:25.560 there and that's not a thing to be afraid of at all actually because in fact we've been given

00:36:29.460 authority over them we have this ultimate power you know uh in jesus christ's name so it's not a

00:36:35.520 black pill it's not to be afraid but i'm like these things are very real these things are very

00:36:38.880 real i believe that i even go as far as saying i know that to be the case and so when you go you

00:36:44.780 don't believe in christ i'm like dude you have no idea how much i believe in christ um i'm just an 0.65

00:36:49.400 asshole well that's okay can i can i ask you it might be a difficult question but if you'd not 0.60

00:36:55.380 found christ in that moment and this might be difficult what do you think would have happened 0.84

00:36:59.260 How do you think that would have escalated?

00:37:01.120 And I know that might be tough because it doesn't sound like it would have been positive in any way, shape or form.

00:37:06.860 But so many people have these experiences and don't find Christ and continue to have these terrifying encounters.

00:37:13.980 What are your thoughts on that?

00:37:15.380 Well, how do these demonic encounters usually escalate without any intervention?

00:37:21.840 It would be like a continued persecution of the target.

00:37:26.660 um david probably would have went deeper into a some sort of a depression it would have began to

00:37:32.920 tear your family apart yeah your kid would have suffered in who knows how many different ways 0.99

00:37:37.700 um and who knows if you're if you're dumb enough maybe you even contacted and start to make deals 0.98

00:37:45.440 sure i mean you know my so my my wife she grew up in that house um and the room that we were in 0.97

00:37:54.140 where was her brother's old room you know from when he was a kid since he's moved out and it's

00:37:58.620 just a spare bedroom well actually the whole thing's been demolished since uh since then so

00:38:03.000 probably for the better but um she had a discussion with him her brother about you know what I went

00:38:10.240 through and he was a troubled kid and he saw a lot of stuff lastly paralysis aliens you know and

00:38:17.840 was tormented in that place and I think that what I was dealing with was something that was

00:38:24.120 local to that area maybe even to that house and maybe had some attachments to that room

00:38:31.400 because of the brother's experiences growing up and the brother probably is what fed this thing

00:38:36.800 for a long time so i think in some ways what i encountered was something that was there

00:38:41.460 they're parasitic in nature and this thing was starved it was starved i think that's why it

00:38:47.160 moved so rapidly that's why it revealed itself to me should have never done that once it got enough

00:38:51.620 power to, you know, after loosing off me and eating all this negative emotional energy, 0.99

00:38:57.700 I think it manifested, you know, to me, to my wife, to my son, worst shit that it could 0.97

00:39:03.240 have done was doing that so quickly because the sense of urgency that it created in me 0.98

00:39:08.440 was that desperation that led to calling on Christ.

00:39:11.380 But I think I was dealing with something that was there for a long time.

00:39:15.340 And I don't think they can do, look, ultimately, Tommy, it's like what Top just said, you

00:39:21.040 know it can lead to possession you know with that that requires um a lot of consent i think

00:39:27.160 possession is probably one of the hardest things for it to accomplish oppression is just run-of-the-mill 0.95

00:39:32.320 shit you know it can stress you out it can nudge you to be more angry it can whisper things that 0.97

00:39:38.200 you think are your own thoughts but it's not your own thoughts and it can whisper resentful ideas 1.00

00:39:44.280 and and angry ideas and sad ideas nobody loves you nobody this you're a failure yada yada that

00:39:49.680 kind of stuff and it can drive you ultimately suicidal ideal ideology i would say that is the

00:39:54.880 the final goal it wants you to uh it wants you to kill yourself you know and that's what we see

00:40:00.760 the vast majority of the time um i think that's what schizophrenics are dealing with and this 0.55

00:40:05.600 isn't just something that i think we we have this on on pretty good authority one of the friends of

00:40:09.860 the show is a clinical psychologist who deals with schizophrenic patients uh and he was in the

00:40:14.600 field for 35 years. His name is Dr. Jerry Marzinski. And, you know, he came out of the

00:40:19.740 medical industry thinking whatever the textbook diagnosis of schizophrenia was, was the accurate

00:40:25.040 diagnosis. And long story short, on the other end of his experiences, he goes, no, this is something

00:40:29.960 external to the individual. This is not visual and auditory hallucinations caused by, you know,

00:40:37.720 chemical imbalance of the brain. This is something that's external. It gets in through trauma. The

00:40:43.280 more you believe that the thoughts are your own, the louder they get, the more influential they

00:40:47.860 become until eventually they're audible. And, um, so those things, you know, they have the same

00:40:53.900 pattern. It's, you know, you're worthless. Nobody loves you this and that over and over again, 0.99

00:40:58.300 they torment them until eventually, yeah, sure. There can be a possession thing, right? I think

00:41:03.080 that's what split personality is when the main personality recedes, you know, by disassociation

00:41:09.220 and this other personality emerges in a schizophrenic patient, that is possession.

00:41:14.280 That's possession.

00:41:14.940 And I think they take on a bunch of different, what would you call them, personality traits.

00:41:19.600 You know, it's like, oh, well, the other personality thinks they're a child,

00:41:22.520 or the other personality thinks they're a lady named Sue, or, you know, you name it.

00:41:26.060 I think this is just deceptive tactics by this thing that has a parasitic relationship

00:41:30.600 and that is ultimately trying to not only destroy all the relationships in the life of the individual

00:41:35.860 so that it just exacerbates that feed loop that it's in.

00:41:39.220 The sadness, the despair, the anger, all these things.

00:41:42.060 It's eating.

00:41:42.540 It's eating.

00:41:43.680 But ultimately, it drives you to suicide.

00:41:46.880 And so, yeah, I think that would have been the ultimate goal.

00:41:49.680 But I think it just did it too fast, man.

00:41:53.660 It did it too fast.

00:41:54.460 And I don't think that I would have succumbed to that.

00:41:56.660 I was, you know, I came from a pretty hard life, used to be homeless and things like

00:41:59.260 that.

00:41:59.460 If I could deal with that, that I could deal with a little bit of, like, not being able

00:42:02.720 to succeed in a different state and living with the in-laws.

00:42:06.640 But this thing, they're not smart.

00:42:09.220 Or sometimes they're not smart.

00:42:10.680 I think sometimes, depending on the one you encounter, can be clever and deceptive.

00:42:16.280 This thing was just like impatient, wanted to go, go, go, go, go, wanted to feed, hadn't fed in a long time.

00:42:22.400 So I think I literally encountered what plagued my brother-in-law as a child.

00:42:28.800 Interesting, man.

00:42:30.060 I think we said this on your show last time.

00:42:32.620 A lot of people are probably dealing with stuff like this that don't even realize it's happening to them.

00:42:36.840 you know they're under some sort of spiritual attack and that could be like the result of

00:42:40.980 why so many families break up sure you know why people go down the wrong path and you know

00:42:45.220 um i think that's i think it's a lot more these these attacks these spiritual attacks i think

00:42:50.840 are a lot more common to so many people but so many people just don't see it because like we

00:42:55.700 were saying before christianity and and and spirituality is attacked and is like uh and

00:43:02.340 maybe that's why maybe that's why the powers that be want want want the world to be chaos

00:43:06.400 want um you know dysfunctional families that are not you know and i think i think that's that's

00:43:13.040 very real so that's scary that idea about being attacked and not seeing it or knowing it is kind

00:43:19.680 of that's kind of my story um i'm trying to figure out where to even start this i guess uh

00:43:26.480 um i i was working in the comedy sphere for a long time and i was doing a comedy show and

00:43:32.560 We did events and, like, you know, correlated with the Libertarian Party and things like that.

00:43:38.220 And it was just a lot of fun.

00:43:39.820 We were having a lot of fun.

00:43:40.660 We were crossing the line during COVID, which was very important for people.

00:43:46.520 People still kind of want that back, but I don't think I'm going to give it back.

00:43:51.360 And we had this event at my house with Robbie Bernstein.

00:43:57.380 He's the co-host of Dave Smith, and he did a stand-up comedy show at my house.

00:44:02.560 So I had a bunch of people over, and I had all of the co-hosts of the show that I was doing at my house.

00:44:11.160 They were staying at my house.

00:44:13.600 One of them brought his girlfriend, and it was fine. 0.99

00:44:21.080 She's a weird girl. 1.00

00:44:22.940 You guys would probably know her if I said her name.

00:44:25.140 she's she's famous and uh they stood in the spare bedroom for the night or two that they were there

00:44:33.920 it was like it was like a strange dynamic they were there for a long time like sleeping in the

00:44:39.720 bedroom like everybody left they're still there sleeping um most of the day that we were performing

00:44:46.740 she was in the room doing whatever i don't know i thought she was working or something like that

00:44:51.580 the next day everybody clears out they're still asleep in the room and my parents they had a

00:45:00.200 they're building a house on my property they were at the time and their moving truck from Brooklyn

00:45:05.300 came in the guy comes in his brother's supposed to be there helping him his brother doesn't show 0.99

00:45:10.500 up he's in Tampa somewhere so it's a whole thing and I'm exhausted but I go you know what fuck it 0.94

00:45:16.040 I'll go out there and I'll help this guy. 0.96

00:45:18.960 Keep in mind, at this point, I am not, I like conspiracies.

00:45:24.240 I am also a Christian, but a disaffected Christian.

00:45:29.380 As I said, I was kicked out the church.

00:45:31.280 At that point, I said, never going back.

00:45:34.480 I still believe in God and Jesus Christ, but never going back to the church.

00:45:38.440 This is done.

00:45:40.180 And I go and I go help this guy out.

00:45:42.740 turns out this guy is like uh he's one of these original proud boy members i don't know if you

00:45:48.420 guys you know who this is it's like a very strange set of events he was battling antifa back

00:45:54.420 like 2016 2015 when all this crazy shit was popping off and now he owns a moving company

00:46:00.000 and he moved my parents so i'm talking to him and it's interesting because like all the people that

00:46:05.820 i talk to and the world that i'm in he was in before and he knows all these people and he knows

00:46:11.720 all the the politics and all the stuff like that and i was like man cool so me and him just

00:46:16.220 chatting it up and uh we're moving the stuff in the back and i think we finish or we take a break

00:46:23.460 and we come out and uh here comes my friend and his girlfriend and they come walking out the house

00:46:29.020 and i go hey come meet come meet these guys because uh maybe you know them but like whatever

00:46:33.500 they're they're cool uh my friend comes up his girlfriend is kind of behind him she sees this

00:46:39.840 guy stops on a dime turns around and walks away it looks like she saw a ghost and like like i'm

00:46:48.060 i'm perceptive of like when people are around so i'm always paying attention to body language and

00:46:52.220 what's happening i was like that was strange so i just say you know bye to my friend they leave 0.79

00:46:57.180 no no big deal and i asked him later i said hey what the fuck was that and he goes do you know 0.62

00:47:02.220 that girl and i go yeah i know her she just stood at my house and he just looks at me right in my 0.99

00:47:06.660 face and he goes she's a witch and i go okay i i again i'm not dealing in the supernatural

00:47:16.080 none of that i got nowhere to put this so i just go okay like i guess you don't like her

00:47:22.640 he knows her from before and then he goes again like no no no she's a witch again i go

00:47:29.720 all right where do i thanks we chatted up the day ends uh it is what it is uh i guess i'll

00:47:41.060 from from this point i'm gonna go back in time because it's like a very strange how this this

00:47:47.580 part happens i am kicked out the church it's a soft kicking out of the church basically what

00:47:53.520 they do is they take your membership because i was a member there which means you're not welcome

00:47:57.800 here anymore, but I was still leading the worship. I played guitar and I did, uh, all the musical

00:48:03.600 organization and the sound stuff for, so I'm still doing my duties there, even though the pastor

00:48:09.520 has kicked me out of the church for accusing him of embezzling money, which he might've done. Um,

00:48:16.680 it was crazy shit. So I'm out of the church and I've made up in my mind already, never coming 0.99

00:48:22.560 back to this place. Whatever you tell me to do, God, I'm doing the opposite. I'm doing my own

00:48:30.200 thing. This was my mindset because now I've been burned by these people. And again, these people

00:48:37.660 being Christians, not Jesus Christ, not God, the people, which are, you know, and the people are

00:48:45.460 they're who they are. I've since talked to the pastor. We've made up, not made up, but like,

00:48:51.760 you know, we, we've, we've spoken about what happened and we, we agree. Uh, but one of the

00:48:57.320 elders comes up to me and she goes, Oh, uh, God has a word for you. I go, go ahead. Fucking say

00:49:04.000 it. What's the, you know, what's the word? She goes, you're going to have a great testimony. 1.00

00:49:09.060 You're going to talk to millions of people. Um, you're going to be like, uh, I guess not,

00:49:13.860 she didn't say preacher, but like, you're going to, you're going to be like preaching to millions 0.93

00:49:18.980 of people and i go thanks bitch and i leave the church i didn't say that to her she's very nice 0.99

00:49:25.900 she's a nice lady but in my head right i was like whatever whatever you say bitch uh because 0.98

00:49:32.740 i don't want to hear that so i leave and and from there i go not not doing any of that if if that 0.96

00:49:39.740 gets pulled if i get pulled in that direction i'm going in the other direction actively not going to

00:49:44.300 do it fast forward meet david we start doing this show this show is christian it's not christian

00:49:53.020 it's conspiracy and comedy when we started as a matter of fact we we had a very good chance of

00:49:57.560 starting this show and going almost completely gnostic our first guest oh yeah an astrologer 0.88

00:50:03.400 it was crazy shit and we uh we looked at him though afterwards and we were like good job 0.97

00:50:08.040 because he was like basically like everything about christianity is fake and we were after 0.98

00:50:11.020 the episode we're going like all right great and we weren't even like i wasn't here like you know

00:50:15.060 talking about the bible or christianity like the way i am now it wasn't we weren't about that like

00:50:20.260 i was coming from pure comedy david's coming from like this broadcasting he does comedy he does a

00:50:24.560 little bit of everything and uh after the episode we had to decide do we even want to do a show

00:50:30.720 together number one because it was like a it was his show and my show and we were interviewing the

00:50:35.020 same guy yeah it was a swap cast yeah yeah sorts you know yeah a tryout a tryout for uh both of us 0.69

00:50:42.140 see like how it would go and i think after we looked at him we were like that was gay right

00:50:46.440 and he's like it might work he was like yeah but i mean like no what we were talking about

00:50:52.300 with the guy oh yeah yeah yeah we didn't really like did you like that he's like i don't really

00:50:57.540 yeah yeah i don't think that that's true he's like oh the bible is strictly um allegorical

00:51:04.240 allegorical for uh astrological phenomenon and which you know is very much like zeitgeist 2012

00:51:10.780 the film that came out and it's like yeah probably that's a layer of it but there is actual historical

00:51:17.000 events and there is real truth in here but the nature of the universe is fractal as above so

00:51:22.880 below so this story is written in the stars but it's also written in your own dna but it's also

00:51:28.680 you know there's like layers to it but it's also a man who came and died for your sins like

00:51:32.360 it's an amazing story uh and and you know the the realm that we inhabit is incredible but at that

00:51:37.800 at that point like the show had no uh it it didn't have a name you know so it was just uh we had no

00:51:44.540 idea what it would even be about besides like conspiracies he was doing it was called uh the

00:51:49.660 raven's watch the raven's watch and i had the top lobster show and we were doing conspiracies like

00:51:54.340 i was just interviewing people that had like crazy stories nothing about christianity because again 0.99

00:52:00.420 And I'm like, fuck that. 0.99

00:52:02.160 Not doing that. 1.00

00:52:04.340 So that happens.

00:52:05.320 And from there, like the show starts to go in that direction.

00:52:08.320 I think that that was like a nudge.

00:52:09.860 Yeah.

00:52:10.240 In that direction.

00:52:10.920 Although we misbehaved very badly.

00:52:13.580 Yeah.

00:52:14.300 We eventually started to do live events.

00:52:17.400 So that one right there, Bohemian Grove, that was the second one.

00:52:20.880 This was the third one.

00:52:22.340 Yeah.

00:52:23.400 The third one was interesting because everything fell apart like two weeks ago.

00:52:29.900 two weeks before this event i don't know if i've told you this story um so we had a theater in a

00:52:37.100 town nearby us set up like a legitimate theater and we had close to 300 people coming from all

00:52:43.580 around the world to the theater and the theater owner canceled us uh for having one of our stand-up

00:52:50.580 comedians owen benjamin perform he says if he comes and you can't do this and i said oh well

00:52:54.620 this is just we're not doing that we don't cancel people so we left and uh i immediately started

00:53:02.480 looking for uh another option another venue the guy from the story that i told you slept at my

00:53:08.860 house with a girlfriend he's now operating as like third man for uh not necessarily our show

00:53:16.340 but we did another show with him and he's like he's a large public figure as well probably he's

00:53:20.820 got 300 000 i don't even know oh yeah yeah he's really blown up yeah yeah um so he's helping us

00:53:29.200 with the event and uh the event falls through we have like disagreements about what happened and

00:53:37.060 he was mad at me he's like how come you didn't negotiate with the theater owner i was like it

00:53:40.980 was purely ideological i couldn't negotiate the guy was talking about uh you know he was like well

00:53:46.760 i have gay staff and this guy said gay jokes and i'm jewish and this and i was like he's arguing

00:53:52.680 from a weird leftist standpoint and i'm like this is gonna this goes nowhere i've got two weeks to

00:53:57.720 pull this off and i gotta start moving and uh from there it was like it was a bad breakup with this

00:54:03.860 guy like he was he had you know i i feel bad he moved from miami to the town right across the

00:54:10.300 street from the theater and the assumption that we'd be doing events there all the time and

00:54:13.400 it fell through fantastically yeah in the craziest way um he bails on the whole thing on us

00:54:22.500 asked his fans to you know ask for refunds which they didn't it was it got nasty um

00:54:29.140 and me and david are left to like pick up the pieces of not just the event but like well what

00:54:36.780 the fuck just happened here right it was like uh we were like cruising we were actually at the

00:54:41.520 theater when the guy told us you can't do it because we were there taking measurements for 0.99

00:54:45.780 the banners that we were going to put up and like that day it was just like boom yeah it was crazy

00:54:51.720 and the way that door closed was crazy um and then the way the door closed on like the friendship

00:54:57.300 with the other guy was crazy as well so now he doesn't talk to me um the show that we did before

00:55:04.020 which was large in the the comedy space as well it's called tower gang that falls apart so now

00:55:10.220 i'm out of the i'm out of the comedy game like uh not just there but like i used to do t-shirts and

00:55:16.040 stuff like that for other people and since i started doing nephilim death squad i just like

00:55:20.880 i was like hey listen man it's one of those things where it's like i can continue to pour effort into

00:55:24.580 this or that and i was like i'll do it to myself so like i'm out of the comedy game with uh the

00:55:29.460 merchandising and all these big comics that i was doing um with my podcast in general with the event 0.95

00:55:35.320 the people that i'm out just gone done in a day yeah realistically and i was like shit man what 0.92

00:55:41.900 happened there um a little asterisk which is kind of crazy too is we were in that theater 0.74

00:55:51.140 um we had a small studio in his house but right across the street from his house was a coffee shop

00:55:56.420 that had uh i knew the owner of the town he was renting space above the coffee shop which we

00:56:03.720 really loved and we're like yeah let's rent the space there open up a studio above the coffee

00:56:08.320 shop and then we could have one in his house one over there it would have been cool having guests

00:56:12.380 over and then you could uh take them out or whatever into coffee but uh obviously that fell

00:56:17.000 through like we don't do any business you're like bailed on that whole town yeah yeah i'm not gonna

00:56:21.740 it tommy it went up to the mayor of the town yeah they wrote articles about us

00:56:27.520 you want to talk about heat it got crazy heat heat heat yeah uh and you know the thing though

00:56:37.540 is like i think like about me and david me i've been in it for a little bit longer than david as 0.65

00:56:43.340 far as like the heat goes but you experience a lot of this shit too yeah um it doesn't i mean

00:56:49.100 you know i'm a human being so it does affect me but like it doesn't affect me as much as other 0.99

00:56:53.600 people so like they go hey you're canceled and i go all right fuck you and i go and i do what i'm 0.87

00:56:59.540 doing anyway because you can't cancel me you can't cancel people in general we got the next venue in 0.97

00:57:05.060 under 24 hours we still pulled off the entire event like it was no big deal it was just an empty room

00:57:09.880 we had like we set up all the it was crazy stage and the lighting and all the mics and everything

00:57:14.800 but it um the way that the fallout happened it almost didn't make sense because it was a success

00:57:23.280 story we had secured a venue in under 24 hours and i think in hindsight it makes a lot more sense

00:57:28.240 to me now i forget what it is it's a verse in corinthians that talks about not being yoked uh

00:57:33.520 equally with non-believers or unequally yoked with non-believers i forget exactly but yoked is

00:57:38.120 it just means a relationship goes beyond like a friendship we were entering a business deal with

00:57:44.620 this guy he's a non-believer and that doesn't that's not a um necessarily an out for me doesn't

00:57:50.280 me that i dislike you if you're a non-believer you know or anything like that everybody's journey is

00:57:54.180 their own and everybody's path takes a different amount of time and and you know i just pray like

00:57:58.880 you figure it out and christ reveals himself to you and you come but you know it's a different

00:58:04.920 thing to enter a relationship with a person like that friendship is one thing a contract

00:58:10.860 a binding contract with an individual who's not a believer um i think that god removed that

00:58:18.200 from us because we were this close to signing paperwork but and we did uh i mean you know

00:58:24.580 afterwards we did find out from some people that they were like you know him and another guy that

00:58:31.240 i did shows with they they went over their house and they were doing like you know some podcast

00:58:36.440 with them and they were like yeah they were talking about you i was like yeah i figured

00:58:39.900 and one of the things that they like were upset about was like they're like oh yeah you know top

00:58:44.560 went really like Christian uh since he met David and I was just like I didn't if you look at like

00:58:50.880 my performance on my my uh comedy show it was a conviction of mine a little bit I'll be honest

00:58:56.020 with you where I'm like we're saying some wild stuff like I can't just keep saying things just

00:59:00.400 to say them if you're gonna use words use them uh if you're gonna shock people use it for the

00:59:05.800 correct shock value you got to be real careful not just uh say a slur to say a slur it's it

00:59:10.520 It becomes, you know, obnoxious.

00:59:13.080 But my performance hadn't changed.

00:59:15.640 I guess maybe something about me had changed since I was doing Nephilim Death Squad.

00:59:19.500 But all my attention was still on that show, on the other show.

00:59:25.140 So that was an odd point of contention that they had.

00:59:27.980 They didn't like something about that, which is interesting.

00:59:31.160 So anyway, event happens.

00:59:34.320 We pull it off.

00:59:34.860 It went fine.

00:59:35.400 uh about a three months later we're doing a episode with vicki joy anderson oh yeah and uh

00:59:43.700 she's awesome she's the best yeah yeah she it was one of those moments where i said oh damn i almost

00:59:49.940 like logged off because i was like oh my god she was talking about witchcraft and uh you can watch

00:59:56.640 this episode it's it's on youtube and she had mentioned something that i knew before because

01:00:00.880 i had heard it on merkel's show and you hear it other times as well like you you talk about this

01:00:06.360 thing called like an artifact where a witch will leave an artifact in your house and it's actually

01:00:12.320 called opotropaic magic um and it's a way optropaic opa opotropaic as i said not smart

01:00:21.740 not barely i definitely wouldn't be able to say that but there is yeah it is this um it's a

01:00:28.460 methodology that a practitioner or a witchcraft practitioner leaves an object behind or an item

01:00:34.660 behind. And it's an anchor point. And it just gives them, you know, more authority over you

01:00:40.440 in the spiritual realm to be able to execute whatever it is that they want to execute. But

01:00:43.940 it's a it's a real thing. Typically, by the way, it happens in jars, which I found one when I was

01:00:49.200 a kid in the woods, pulled it out of a tree jar filled with strange liquid pins and and like a

01:00:55.740 chunk of flesh inside of a wrapping and i just smashed it on the ground and i was like oh and

01:01:00.520 i think i think honestly i screwed up something for somebody uh because you know it's advantageous

01:01:06.300 for them to have that there and i came across it and smashed it on the ground so they was

01:01:10.320 fermenting they was fermenting it yeah yeah whoa so well what happened to me was uh after like they

01:01:17.320 sleep over and after the guy it's like flashback again rewind um now we got to go into the house

01:01:24.040 me and my wife are back at home and we got to clean up the house because we just had like a

01:01:26.940 big party basically stand-up comedy party this is after this dude was like this chick's a witch

01:01:30.780 yes uh yeah maybe even the next day or like a couple days later i whatever we we get to the 1.00

01:01:37.520 spare room eventually we clean it up and my wife is like what the fuck i found uh in the spare room 1.00

01:01:43.320 there was like a pair of panties dirty panties in here and uh they were like kind of small for 1.00

01:01:51.320 the girl that should have been wearing it and i was like dirty what do you mean dirty and she

01:01:55.860 wouldn't tell me uh flash forward talking to vicky joey anderson she's talking about witchcraft

01:02:00.720 artifacts she's like yeah often they'll leave this and uh i think she even mentioned something

01:02:05.020 about like uh blood and uh like like there'll be you know there'll be blood like that that's like a 0.91

01:02:12.000 good signifier of this so i call my wife these bodily fluids blood uh fecal matter like that

01:02:17.600 This is what's used in magic. 0.96

01:02:21.020 Sexual. 0.98

01:02:22.640 Excretions. 0.88

01:02:23.720 Excretions. 0.99

01:02:25.340 So I'm like, I'm fucking, I'm panicking on the show. 0.98

01:02:28.740 And I call my wife and I was like, hey, hey, hey, I need you to tell me. 0.97

01:02:32.780 Remember when we had that party?

01:02:34.580 What was on the panties?

01:02:35.660 And she's like, are you kidding me?

01:02:37.280 I was like, I'm not going to tell you. 0.97

01:02:38.160 That's like embarrassing for the girls.

01:02:39.600 Like, what was on the panties? 1.00

01:02:41.080 I will, I'll get physical with you.

01:02:43.340 What was on the panties? 0.85

01:02:45.600 She's like, all right. 1.00

01:02:47.080 It's like dried blood shit in the thong area, and she was like, you know, probably who knows 1.00

01:02:56.620 what else. 0.99

01:02:57.640 And I'm like, so like just Santorum.

01:03:00.020 Yeah.

01:03:00.500 All that stuff mixed up. 0.88

01:03:01.500 By the way, this chick is an outspoken practitioner, right?

01:03:06.200 Now she is. 0.97

01:03:07.060 Before she was LARPing in the right-wing political space and was actually on Infowars for a little 1.00

01:03:12.940 while. 0.98

01:03:13.360 But now she's taking off her mask. 1.00

01:03:15.120 Now she's just doing cosplay and OnlyFans.

01:03:17.080 um which i you know i i think about her a lot and i do pray for her because she's not she's never

01:03:23.900 really treated me badly besides what i'm about to tell you i don't think she's a bad person i just

01:03:28.820 think something went wrong at some point with her um so we find that flashback again no big deal 0.69

01:03:36.000 my wife throws it out cleans the sheets and all this shit about like three months after the event

01:03:42.660 um my kids get really sick and i'm like we had just moved to florida i had left a job with really 0.95

01:03:50.720 good health insurance and like a six-figure job to come here and take a chance and do this or

01:03:55.160 whatever my kids are sick they're like it's like constant diarrhea constant we're bringing them

01:04:00.000 the specialist we're trying to figure it out spending time like a lot of money on doctors

01:04:04.660 because it's like i'm paying for like private insurance now it's like it's a whole thing so

01:04:09.460 the kids are they start to like taper off and uh not recover fully but like not it's not as severe

01:04:17.820 immediately after my wife gets sick she's getting like uh uh what is it called vertigo she thinks

01:04:26.860 she has like something wrong with her brain we send her to cat scans she's like she's seeing

01:04:30.460 things upside down um she's getting pain throughout her whole body that's like moving

01:04:37.040 in different spots to the point where she becomes like bedridden for a month and i was like she's

01:04:42.640 gonna die like man yeah i mean i think i think that's the the reality of it is um you know this

01:04:54.100 is something that we've been kind of tracking lately i don't know if you see this tommy but

01:04:58.580 It's like there used to be this sort of cheeky, ironic paganism and witchcraft.

01:05:07.480 And that was really prevalent when we were younger.

01:05:09.780 You know, I don't know if I don't want to be like the kind of guy that's like a satanic panic thing.

01:05:13.480 But like, you know, Harry Potter probably aids in some of that and makes it fun.

01:05:17.860 And, you know, I was a real big fan of those films.

01:05:20.540 And to some degree, I still am.

01:05:22.540 But I recognize what they do culturally. 0.99

01:05:24.480 it's a slow you know it's a slow path that you head down I know a lot of these girls that I used

01:05:30.580 to go to school with that would memorize the spells they would talk about their favorite

01:05:34.820 characters and they would go to cons and they would dress in the robes and things and I know

01:05:40.000 a lot of those girls that are now adults and it's now like that routine spell casting and

01:05:45.660 offerings and stuff is it's part of their everyday life and I think we've crossed this line now

01:05:50.480 where we're watching a real return of unironic paganism unironic witchcraft yeah and it is so

01:05:59.780 prevalent it's super prevalent and i you know if you just it works it works yeah well that's the

01:06:04.500 reason that it's prevalent is because it does yield results when people don't quite understand 0.99

01:06:08.660 what they're dealing with i think it'll yield results if you're uh if you're an idiot if that 0.99

01:06:14.560 and i say that like in a kind way like i don't know i like he's the guy told me god sent some 0.99

01:06:20.180 random dude with a scar on his face that was doing all these and he told me she's a witch and

01:06:25.420 i had nothing to do i had no recourse to say except for like all right you know cool um so

01:06:35.300 my wife is sick she's really sick and uh like we had moved to florida and we had some savings from

01:06:43.080 the house that we had just sold but we bought a house and now i have this money and we're like 0.92

01:06:48.500 well this is like you know if shit goes sideways but i i decided i was like hey listen we got to 0.73

01:06:55.340 get you up and running because if we don't have if i don't have a wife here uh why did i move my 0.86

01:07:01.660 family like my family for like a good reason um so we spent uh so much money on uh doctors and

01:07:11.940 and she's a nurse so like she was aware of like the the western medical system and

01:07:16.580 uh the medications that they want to put you on and she didn't want to go on those things for life

01:07:21.420 so like between supplements um between we did some like uh frequency stuff which was actually

01:07:30.340 very interesting other kind of uh heliopathic doctors but all this stuff is very expensive 0.96

01:07:36.780 none of it's covered by insurance so 15 to 20 000 later like fuck but she's better um 0.88

01:07:46.180 and then i start doing the show with david it goes in a certain direction and the craziest thing is 0.97

01:07:53.940 that like uh so like i don't know even though i could have uh probably taken this witchcraft

01:07:59.660 thing seriously immediately and battled it in a certain way i wasn't equipped and i didn't know

01:08:04.360 how i also wasn't thinking that way i was thinking more like this doesn't happen

01:08:09.620 or that because it's not real yeah this isn't real um but i guess it was real and you know

01:08:17.300 vicky joy kind of put that into perspective for me and like it all hit me at once on that episode

01:08:21.160 as i'm thinking about it but we do this show and the first sponsor that we get like who the 0.89

01:08:27.620 fuck sponsors a show that hasn't hasn't even started really yeah yeah um first sponsor we 0.96

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01:08:48.580 company uh for no reason again a show that has no business doing any of this stuff uh has no

01:08:55.060 business even getting sponsors oh yeah it's so hard to get sponsors it doesn't matter if it's

01:09:00.800 early in the career of a show or late in the career of the show i know guys that have been

01:09:04.860 doing this for a long time that still have you know trouble doing and and you know i've tried

01:09:09.500 to secure my own sponsors it's real hit or miss but these things just showed up yeah next the

01:09:15.340 next sponsor like uh health care health care like health product company because like now again my

01:09:20.460 wife is like after we got her like healed up now everything is has to be organic and all this stuff 0.97

01:09:25.540 and i get it she's like she's not fucking around yeah uh sponsorship from then this is within the 0.69

01:09:29.820 first six months of the show and it's like all that money that i uh i thought i like lost spending 0.83

01:09:36.960 on my wife is just like here's back and more wow i don't know yeah you explain it to me yeah

01:09:44.020 um that got me chills man yeah and then i guess uh to top it off after the leesburg event when uh

01:09:53.220 you know like we told like leesburg the town that we got kicked out of that we wanted to do the the

01:09:57.260 coffee shop uh studio on top of the coffee shop because it seemed like that's what we're supposed

01:10:01.980 to do like oh all signs point to doing this and then and then it falls through fantastically he's

01:10:05.960 like you're not supposed guys like you don't work with that guy anymore um you don't you don't do

01:10:11.580 this type of comedy anymore you don't work in this town uh but you were close you're close you still

01:10:18.060 do comedy you work with a different uh white guy and uh yeah coffee shop but not on top of one

01:10:24.540 inside of one yeah and it's like all right and this is what happened out of uh realistically

01:10:29.320 out of nowhere like this is it none of it actually makes any sense so we're just doing

01:10:34.380 whatever we do and uh that's it actually look at that i printed this out and like we have these uh 0.85

01:10:41.440 oh here we go yeah this is a good sign this is a this is a latin word retardio return to god 0.95

01:10:48.820 um let me see if i can put that a little closer yeah so that's awesome man yeah retard retard 0.94

01:10:55.660 means return dio means god and when you put them together you know it sounds like retard which is 0.90

01:11:01.900 funny because that's all of our branding yeah so like it's one of the things that i stuck to that's 0.93

01:11:05.740 like i made this little thing with our nephilim skull skulls on it but retard dio return to god 0.91

01:11:11.360 It just means, like, be completely, be clear, not in the way that you'll hear with new age people, but, like, be open to how God wants to work in your life or work through you. 0.93

01:11:32.860 Don't fight it, because when you fight it, it's going to happen anyway.

01:11:36.620 hi there you go we just passed like a i think we just passed like five million

01:11:41.540 audio listens at least over the last two years so uh yeah if that lady's still alive that came

01:11:49.980 true even though i said no yeah um that's funny yeah but that's who i am i take the hard path

01:11:56.480 like you gotta like really kicking and screaming that's who i am um maybe that's who i'll always be

01:12:03.680 i don't know david's david's seen me kicking and screaming a lot of times uh with my attitude but

01:12:09.940 uh seems like god just keeps getting what he wants though yeah at a certain point you stop

01:12:15.260 fighting but also i think the kicking and screaming is part of the the journey yeah it's part of like

01:12:20.160 uh i wouldn't be able to be who i am like uh i think a good point like at the at the leesburg

01:12:27.700 theater when the guy tells you you can't do this without all that kicking and screaming and that

01:12:31.860 Like the ability to look at the passer and be like, you're doing something wrong.

01:12:35.780 I know no one else is telling you here, but I'm going to tell you and I'm not going to say it nice.

01:12:42.520 That'll get you beat up and scuffed up a little bit.

01:12:45.320 But I think you kind of need that because I wouldn't have been able to tell that guy no.

01:12:49.740 You know, I just told him thank you.

01:12:52.440 You know, when he said you can't do it here.

01:12:53.760 Thank you.

01:12:54.140 What was the alternative?

01:12:55.320 Compromise and get rid of.

01:12:57.680 Yeah, the alternative is always compromise.

01:12:59.820 And then that's what that that entity, I think, when it's presenting itself to your son and your wife, it's doing the same thing.

01:13:06.480 It's asking you, yeah, will you compromise now?

01:13:09.820 Are you going to are you going to like do what I say?

01:13:13.860 If I beat you down, if I beat you to the ground, if I take everything from you, like the story of Job, are you going to compromise?

01:13:21.040 And, you know, for me, I'd like to say no.

01:13:25.300 We've been through a lot, but we haven't been through that much. 0.94

01:13:28.560 you know nothing like that crazy this is all kind of superficial this is fun shit this is this is 0.84

01:13:34.780 fun stuff but there will come a time i think where you're gonna have to say no yeah and in a big way 0.96

01:13:41.280 not just to no i'm not gonna get the shot or you know this and that no i'm not gonna worship 0.98

01:13:46.580 yeah i'm not gonna worship your false god uh no uh you can cut my head off okay and as you do it 1.00

01:13:53.120 i'm gonna tell you to suck my dick and they're gonna go that's not very christ-like as they cut 1.00

01:13:57.640 your head off and you're like okay that's not very christ-like as you call the anti-christ 1.00

01:14:02.520 game yes exactly yeah maybe it's not maybe it's not but i'm not jesus christ i'm i am uh me i'm 0.98

01:14:09.320 top lobster and it's i'm kind of a piece of shit but that's kind of this is how you asked how we 0.54

01:14:13.520 got here that's how we got here tommy yeah this is this is what happened guys man i think i think 0.96

01:14:21.820 it's it i'm so thankful you shared your story today incredible both of you have had incredible

01:14:26.700 journeys into this world um and and your show's amazing so we're the listeners i'm thankful and

01:14:34.040 everyone that listens are thankful as well you know because you're here and and you're killing

01:14:39.000 it so it's just amazing man you get you both gave me goosebumps about 20 times today oh thank you

01:14:44.300 brother i appreciate it man i hope this is uh incredible did we get freaky did we get freaky

01:14:48.620 oh we got we got more than freaking hell yeah amazing stuff guys and i think it's so important

01:14:56.800 that guys like you guys like me guys like everyone share these experiences because you know there's

01:15:02.480 people out there that might be in these positions that you guys are in well that's like if people 0.97

01:15:06.460 are listening it's like you might not realize that some of the shit that's plaguing your life 0.93

01:15:10.300 if you have a consistent thing over your life where things keep going wrong you know you might 0.88

01:15:15.480 be you might be a victim of something that you don't realize you might have come into agreement

01:15:20.920 with some sort of spirit and you didn't realize that you gave it consent because it's not just

01:15:25.060 like acknowledge the terms and agree you know that's not how the spiritual realm works there's

01:15:31.580 a bunch of different ways that we give consent to spiritual entities and forces on a regular basis

01:15:37.340 and you might not realize that the thing that plagues you isn't just like your bad luck or 0.91

01:15:41.700 isn't just some woe is me shit or something might have actually been pitted against you and i don't 0.96

01:15:45.700 want to be the type of guy that's like everything is demonic but like maybe the thing that you're 0.97

01:15:50.800 going through is demonic maybe there's actually something there's no neutral parties in spiritual

01:15:57.320 warfare there's a spiritual realm around us at all times it is constantly engaging with you it is

01:16:03.640 obsessed with you it is obsessed with you there's not a person alive today or throughout history

01:16:10.020 that hasn't been in constant engagement, engagement with the spiritual realm, whether

01:16:14.480 knowingly or unknowingly. So if you're listening to this, you are, whether you like it or not.

01:16:20.440 And if you're the type of person where you find, let's say, because there's worse instances,

01:16:24.720 right? There's like people whose lives are evident that something else is going on. If you're,

01:16:30.000 if you're drug addicted, if you're depressed all the time, if you're constantly injured,

01:16:34.820 if your relationships in your life are falling apart, that's probably a really great sign. If

01:16:39.140 You look around you and the fruits of your life are rotten in every aspect that you can count.

01:16:45.320 You might be either the victim of some sort of spiritual warfare. 1.00

01:16:49.280 You might be a redneck. 0.65

01:16:50.480 You might be a redneck. 1.00

01:16:52.020 Maybe go around, look for panties. 1.00

01:16:54.260 There might be panties in your house.

01:16:55.640 You know what I'm saying?

01:16:57.000 In Merkle's story, it's even worse.

01:16:58.740 Some of these artifacts that were hidden by, I think they were warlocks, you couldn't even see them.

01:17:04.080 You had to go there.

01:17:04.740 He said the dude had to go there and pray in order to perceive these like a sock.

01:17:09.140 Yeah. A sock left somewhere where they should have found it, but they couldn't see it until

01:17:13.420 they're looking with a different set of eyes. I may be the same way that Vicky kind of just

01:17:18.020 pulled that veil off of my eye. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And so, I mean, you know, you might be 0.58

01:17:23.220 listening to this and you might have a bunch of things in your life that are, you know,

01:17:29.620 you're looking around and maybe you're smacking a nail with a wrench. You know what I mean? And

01:17:34.880 Maybe what you need to do is grab the appropriate tool, and the appropriate tool for spiritual warfare is always Jesus Christ.

01:17:41.200 It's always Jesus Christ.

01:17:42.520 So, you know, figure it out, man.

01:17:45.220 Like I said, I don't want to be the kind of guy that's like, it's all demonic, but, like, sometimes it is 100% demonic.

01:17:50.740 And your inability to explore that avenue is just leaving you in a constant vulnerable state. 0.99

01:17:58.340 You're sick. 1.00

01:17:59.300 You're addicted. 1.00

01:18:00.540 You're crippled. 0.96

01:18:02.040 You're this. 1.00

01:18:02.500 You're that.

01:18:03.120 Something else could be going on.

01:18:04.880 you know and the help is there and it's absolutely free as well yeah no this this

01:18:10.320 it's absolutely free brothers man this has been amazing thank you so much for your time today

01:18:17.200 before we before we wrap it up have you guys had any experiences with ufos or have either of you

01:18:22.760 seen bigfoot um i mean i've i've had uh this is like are you having this is his are you having

01:18:29.040 Fun. I saw. Yeah, this is why you have your fun question. I saw a gray. Oh, it was a black.

01:18:35.580 Wasn't that black? It was dark. So, I mean, you know, my my my grandmother was a lifelong 1.00

01:18:42.200 abductee victim. And that's really bled into the lives of not only her kids, but their kids as

01:18:48.060 well. And I'm of that generation, the their kids generation. And, you know, I guess I'll I'll make

01:18:54.920 it quick but i when i was younger um me and my friends had a little spot in the woods where we

01:18:59.040 would go with our bmx bikes and and it was right on the outskirts of town and we would um ride our

01:19:05.200 bikes on some dirt hills and we even had something you could kind of call like a bowl where it was

01:19:10.800 all dug out and you could ride your bike into it and um but next to this spot so that was like the

01:19:16.000 local hangout spot for us you know 11 12 13 year olds in town and on the outskirts of that spot

01:19:21.440 there was a little creek and around the creek there was some tall grass um and as kids we

01:19:28.340 would stomp paths through the tall grass you'd lay it down with your feet so it became kind of

01:19:33.700 like a maze and wasn't like the coolest spot to hang out but every once in a while we'd find

01:19:37.640 ourselves in there and one day me and my buddy shane shane uh uh almost said his last name almost

01:19:42.880 doxxed him cashman uh no no not shane cashman um me and shane were stomping our way through the

01:19:49.960 the tall grass and we're navigating the maze and all of a sudden something starts running towards

01:19:56.320 us in the tall grass now i grew up in a household where we always had like three to four dogs at

01:20:00.920 any given time we had every animal you could think of we had owls and tortoises we had salamanders

01:20:06.420 we owned raccoons we just had every critter you can think of i grew up watching animal planet

01:20:12.820 steve erwin was was my hero as a kid my mother wept when he died you know um and i say all that

01:20:18.880 to say, like, I understand animals, very familiar with them. And, um, I lived in a place where

01:20:25.920 if you got a white tail deer occasionally, that was, um, that was abnormal. It's like,

01:20:32.740 oh my God, the deer are moving into town. Like that started to happen when I got older. Deer

01:20:36.220 started to come in and, and, you know, got strange. Um, you know, no black bear in this area.

01:20:42.280 So when something is running towards us, I'm familiar with animals and very quickly,

01:20:48.220 i have the thought of dog this is a dog and this thing is boogying so quickly towards us that i'm

01:20:55.980 thinking it's we're gonna get attacked this happened so fast tommy that me and my buddy

01:21:00.360 only have time our reaction is to grab each other because we're real close to each other and this

01:21:05.280 path is narrow right we're just kids and we've stomped the paths ourselves so it's not like a

01:21:10.320 super wide it's just like a skinny little path to the tall grass we grab each other and this thing

01:21:15.500 bursts out of the tall grass and exposes itself to us. Now, this is New Jersey. This is the

01:21:23.620 suburbs of New Jersey. Like I said, whitetail in some areas, black bear up north. This thing 0.99

01:21:31.000 was bipedal. These are things that I know. There's some things I'm not sure of. There are things that

01:21:39.500 i know because it all happened so fast i know it was on two legs i know that i know that it was the

01:21:47.440 size roughly of like a toddler i would have placed its age around like i don't know three to four

01:21:53.440 years old just based off the height um i know that it was completely naked and i know that it was

01:22:03.600 basically black now i'm not talking about like like black skin like we're you know black people

01:22:10.280 they're technically brown and white people are technically peach or something like no no i'm

01:22:14.660 saying the color black it was black but it wasn't like a shadow you know sometimes you see a shadow

01:22:20.620 and the shadow is so dark that it's darker than the darkness around it no this was a three-dimensional

01:22:25.760 thing i could have touched it i could see the surface of its skin you know it was black

01:22:32.760 but it was here it wasn't a shadow and it was um now those are the things that i know naked black

01:22:39.940 toddler bipedal the things that i'm not too sure that i know was like its head felt like it was

01:22:47.380 bigger and it was bald i know it was bald i know it was bald um and it was like this is what i'm

01:22:55.440 not too sure i know but i think it was ashy so like like unmoisturized unmoisturized um stole

01:23:05.280 your bike but didn't touch my bike ran right past it which is you know suspicious uh uh unmoisturized

01:23:11.240 here's another thing i do know very fast very fast it ran out in front of this path and then 0.94

01:23:19.420 it continued back on into the tall grass as if it didn't give a shit about us was not bothered by us 0.82

01:23:25.420 didn't interact with us we just had enough time to retract and grab each other and brace for 0.99

01:23:30.840 impact and it just blew right past us now for the longest time tommy i said i saw a naked black baby

01:23:38.460 in the woods all right now i'm like 11 or 12 when this happens maybe maybe 11 actually because i and

01:23:46.620 now that i think about it i always remember being around 9 11 um when i was 16 years old i was

01:23:52.660 telling that story to somebody. And as the words are coming out of my mouth, I realize I've got

01:23:58.000 enough life data now that there's no way you're going to put a toddler in the tall grass in the

01:24:05.480 woods, strip them naked and have him run that fast. Even the coordination. I've never seen a

01:24:12.260 kid run like that. But even if you did, you had a spectacular kid. Black kids are athletic. You

01:24:17.000 got a spectacular kid and he can move real fast. Put him in the tall grass. The tall grass in the

01:24:22.620 mud and the dirt you know the little stalks of tall grass that stick up when they're broken

01:24:27.700 they'll stab you in the feet at 16 years old i knew oh man if you strip me naked right now and

01:24:34.080 said run through that tall grass by that creek you'd be like oh yeah oh oh there's no way i'm 0.99

01:24:39.100 this thing was in full sprint and stride not slowing down not bothered by our presence what

01:24:47.400 kid just runs past other kids in the woods and doesn't say, help me, help me. I'm lost. Nothing

01:24:53.800 made sense about the story, Tommy. After a few years, when you're 11 or 12, it's just a crazy

01:24:59.780 thing that happened. But when you're left with the reality that this did happen and you start

01:25:04.820 to have the faculties to ask questions, none of the questions had reasonable answers. Why didn't

01:25:10.360 he care that we were there? Why wasn't he looking for help? Why was he naked? Why was he so fast?

01:25:15.260 why was he so black i've like weird black so racist like it's just none of it made any sense 0.80

01:25:23.480 dude and it just so happens that that year this is in carterette new jersey people can look this 0.54

01:25:28.380 up 2001 carterette nj ufo sightings um some of the most spectacular ufo sightings that i've ever

01:25:35.660 been adjacently connected with because i didn't have the pleasure of seeing them but people i

01:25:40.000 went to school with did their parents did there were these craft not at all far walking distance

01:25:45.520 from that area um above they were above the turnpike above just this useless information

01:25:51.760 but above the turnpike above the mcdonald's above the walgreens um in the sky these orbs sitting

01:25:58.420 there from daytime until nighttime so you saw them in the daytime they were there for so long

01:26:04.420 that local news crews were able to show up and interview people on the streets who are pointing

01:26:09.300 up at them people were coming out of their jobs and staring at them and all the way until the sun

01:26:13.360 went down and the sky was dark these things were still there and then i think they just

01:26:16.260 blinked out you know that's it they just kind of faded out and went back to dark

01:26:21.480 but now like i said my grandmother uh lifelong abductee victim and and if you go to joseph

01:26:30.300 i forget what his name is the mufon investigator joseph jordan joseph jordan i'll never remember

01:26:34.180 that guy's name uh joseph jordan he's a mufon investigator and he's handled personally like

01:26:38.780 i don't know how many hundreds and hundreds of cases and he said in the over 600 cases he's ever

01:26:43.260 dealt with where people had abduction experiences unanimously they all had occult practitioners

01:26:48.600 within their uh their their bloodline uh which my grandmother was and that it wasn't just them it

01:26:54.940 was a bunch of people in their family that would have these experiences too that's the case for me

01:26:58.500 i've had these experiences my grandmother had these experiences i got two cousins that had

01:27:02.280 these experiences my mother has weird stories her sister is full-blown schizophrenic um in the worst

01:27:08.540 possible way that you could imagine when people hear schizophrenia and they go what's that like

01:27:13.040 you imagine like a crazy homeless person that's my aunt dog so um i don't know why this thing

01:27:18.360 showed itself to me i don't know why they continually like i can understand the haunting

01:27:22.600 i could understand the spiritual access and the loosing and the sucking of energy and all this

01:27:27.060 stuff i get that predatory parasitic in nature but the why show yourself to me when i'm hanging

01:27:34.760 out with my friends and we're riding our bikes in the dirt paths and we're in the tall grass i i

01:27:40.220 don't know why that is but i mean you know to this day it's one of those stories where

01:27:45.780 i is a brief moment and i got a lot of information from it but we talked about it before tommy right

01:27:52.660 it's like nowhere to put it nowhere to put it except unless you're me i figured out a way

01:27:57.820 where to put it i wonder what that thing's doing right now i don't know laughing every time i tell

01:28:01.700 the naked black baby story on a podcast it's like he's telling it again he's saying the story 0.84

01:28:06.000 man well i i've never seen a naked black baby oh go ahead tommy what if it was like a this is 0.93

01:28:13.680 just putting it out there what if it was like a small bigfoot like a baby bigfoot like a child

01:28:18.140 bigfoot um so the area that i was in and i'm not saying that bigfoot has to be like in a forest

01:28:23.640 because i've heard stories where bigfoot is like in a patch of woods on the outskirts of town too

01:28:28.600 you know what i mean so like sometimes you think of like national forest or something like that but

01:28:32.500 i've heard stories that break that mold this all i'll say is that this thing had no hair

01:28:37.240 it was it was naked and smooth um so uh you know it could have been who knows it could have been

01:28:44.540 i think i've heard stories like this in fact um there's an there's an interesting video and i

01:28:50.800 think it's in new jersey of what appears to be some kind of ape or something in the background

01:28:56.360 like swinging through the trees i don't know if you guys have seen that i don't think it's small

01:28:59.560 and they call it a baby bigfoot in new york i'm pretty sure if you google that it'll come up

01:29:03.960 but it's an interesting video that's been about for a long time and it just when you was when you

01:29:08.600 when you said that it kind of took me to there as well i mean there's something here like um uh

01:29:13.140 if you look up a tyanac which is t-i-y-a-n-a-k it looks like a naked baby and it's bald and it's

01:29:23.820 black i mean it could have easily been something like that um you know there's no shortage of

01:29:29.600 of cryptids out there um all shapes and sizes and you know who the heck knows what i saw in fact

01:29:37.180 there might be zero relationship whatsoever to uh to the ufo sighting that year it's just like me

01:29:44.060 trying to make sense of of my experience and so it just so happened we did have a pretty profound

01:29:49.320 uh ufo experience that year but i don't know man i mean who the heck knows what it was could have 0.77

01:29:54.320 been anything um except in my opinion a naked black toddler that just doesn't make any sense

01:30:02.940 you ever seen a baby try to run their heads usually weigh so much that they go you know 0.88

01:30:07.360 in whatever direction their head leans this thing was this you know what i'll go as far as to say

01:30:13.260 it was fully developed this thing it was explosive it was fast it was sprinting this thing was done

01:30:18.640 growing maybe you could imagine uh it wasn't still when it's like developed stages you know

01:30:23.640 this thing was go it was it was fully realized whatever this little creature was um but you

01:30:29.500 know it just makes you wonder like why the hell why show yourselves it's in the tall grass it was

01:30:35.860 obscured when it first got on our radar it didn't have to reveal itself at all unless it really had

01:30:41.780 some place it was going like it really and let me tell you it was moving like it had some place it

01:30:46.580 was going this thing had some place to be maybe that is should have followed it no hell no dude

01:30:51.260 we screamed and we ran out of the woods and we ran through the trailer park and we ran all the

01:30:57.580 way to the park that was nearby and we collapsed uh you know in heavy breathing in the grass on

01:31:03.340 the edge of the park like it was um it was terrifying it was terrifying and then we remember

01:31:09.820 what the face looked like can you remember what the face looked like no no it was quick it was

01:31:14.300 so fast man um like i said the blackness about it was like you know it was it was it was like this

01:31:21.180 thing like you see how the light catches off of it like it was three-dimensional it was really there

01:31:25.540 but it was black like that um and that didn't make any sense i mean i knew some kids that were

01:31:32.900 from africa and they were super dark but uh eddie murphy's pretty black oh yeah like there's that

01:31:38.360 black model that's real black like that yeah yeah it's like that but like dude what are the odds 0.59

01:31:44.360 that you get that and then a baby and here's another uh instance that happened my so i had 1.00

01:31:49.040 a best friend growing up um and he we were walking through the trailer park that was right there like

01:31:54.620 you had to walk through it to get to the woods and he was telling me he's like yo dude there's a

01:31:59.920 black baby there and he said i didn't respond and we kept walking he's like yo dude there's a black

01:32:07.540 baby there and it's he says just standing in the middle of the street in between the you know the

01:32:12.580 and i just wouldn't respond wouldn't look wouldn't care and now he was only able to get my attention

01:32:18.460 after we passed it and we're out of view and then after we passed it i was like what do you want

01:32:23.340 dude he's like there's a black baby you didn't see i've been calling you and i was like nah dude

01:32:27.360 so i don't know i and that one to me is like that's his story even though he was talking to

01:32:33.600 me about it i don't remember that at all he still will tell that story he's like yeah there's a time

01:32:37.840 where i saw a black baby you refused to even turn your head to me that didn't happen i don't remember

01:32:42.700 that even a little bit um so i don't know what to what to make of that but same area maybe 200 feet

01:32:51.140 from where we were man i don't have any stories as cool as that my stories are just like fairly

01:32:57.400 common i don't know shadow person scene one that's pretty scary but cool yeah but not as cool as like

01:33:06.300 a scary blown apparition or like a black baby yeah the shadow i was born in a in a house in

01:33:12.960 seagate which is actually where jeffrey epstein was born um oh whoa yeah crazy but it's that you

01:33:18.180 know no relation you sure yeah palm beach pete we went to a couple of parties together yeah he was

01:33:26.320 he was actually already like well into his career by the time I was born um but uh I was born in

01:33:31.300 this house not in the house in the hospital but like that's where I lived the first two or three

01:33:34.880 years of my life house is extremely haunted my uh my parents then uh leave the house for their

01:33:42.720 house and my next I think my my one of my uncles moves in like this landlord loved that loved the

01:33:48.760 family I guess we paid on time so she just kept renting to my family so my uncle moves in he sees

01:33:55.080 a bunch of crazy shit the next uh aunt moves in and she's there for like 25 years you've spoken 0.96

01:34:02.140 to her daughter oh yeah the things that they see in this house i just absolutely insane but i've 0.99

01:34:07.100 seen i've seen a bunch as well one of them that sticks out to me the most would be we're having

01:34:12.240 a sleepover and uh there's always paranormal stuff happening like whether uh there's a battery

01:34:16.440 that's going off there's a toy that's going off that needs batteries doesn't have them

01:34:20.820 lights on and off uh noises you name it shit falling it's just normal in this house to the 0.66

01:34:27.640 point where you ignore it um but i was in the living room and we're all sleeping over and i

01:34:32.420 look and uh my cousin my older cousin who this thing is now attached to in like in pennsylvania

01:34:40.440 she actually left but it's still with her it's standing over her and i remember getting the

01:34:44.600 feeling of like oh it's claiming uh dominion over her and it was a shadow figure like darker than

01:34:51.960 dark but red eyes because i can see that it's looking at her and the thing is as big as the

01:34:57.620 door frame and she's sleeping in like in front of where the hallway would be and it's just over her

01:35:04.320 like lurched over but still like looks like barely fit through the doorway and i just like

01:35:09.860 put my blanket over my head i was like forget that uh nothing nothing to do here classic uh

01:35:16.420 classic classic shadow person story well classic defensive move as well as a child

01:35:21.200 yeah blanket over the face this is uh yeah this is top lops is dog man i don't know if you know

01:35:25.880 this but uh the dog man exists in a hyperspatial state that exists and doesn't exist unless you

01:35:32.300 look at it yeah the observer determines the existence of the dog man it is consistently

01:35:37.880 disemboweling you and leaving you alone depending on whether you make eye contact with it so 0.99

01:35:42.780 don't look at this shit um but oh boy we got you bought cheeses and pistachios that's really nice 0.99

01:35:49.240 right in front of the camera no problem um and uh my ufo event more in a minute more recently 0.99

01:35:56.140 actually since i've been living here it was probably happened last year or so i think i

01:36:00.380 called you right after um i'm sitting on my porch and i'm looking out towards the east

01:36:06.620 and this thing comes from the south and it could it's it's in the distance and and there are planes

01:36:13.900 that fly over my uh my area actually like there's a lot of uh there's a lot of planes you'll see

01:36:20.140 commercial planes and you'll see residential planes like you know like smaller craft but like

01:36:25.760 you can tell like the smaller ones are low and you can see the wings you know what they are you

01:36:29.180 could hear them the resident the commercial ones are very high up you can see them they'll often

01:36:34.640 have their blinking lights on the on the wings and you can you can see what they are but this is

01:36:38.920 like the broad daylight middle of the day I think I was waiting for you to come over we were going

01:36:42.980 to start a show or something like that and I'm sitting there and I'm just looking and this thing

01:36:48.860 flies from the south to south to north and it's evident it's like very shiny metallic object but

01:36:57.160 it's in the distance very far away from what I can perceive so it's got to be large because I'm

01:37:01.720 still seeing i'm seeing a glimmer off the sun which is now like above me and i'm looking at it

01:37:06.920 and then it goes to the east like super fast to the east so like basically away from you right

01:37:13.780 like that and then it disappears because i can't see it anymore and i was like that's strange

01:37:20.000 and i go huh and then about a minute later same thing same movement same glimmering object

01:37:28.900 from the south to the north stays there for a second and then shoots to the east out of my sight

01:37:35.820 like becomes like you know just a pinpoint disappears and i'm like oh my god wish i would 0.91

01:37:40.920 have recorded that anyway and then a minute later fucking again i think this thing did it like three 0.84

01:37:45.920 or four times the same exact movement in the same spot like away from it was always like performing 0.88

01:37:51.260 for me and i'm like that's what they do though yeah and each time i'm like oh i should have

01:37:55.800 recorded it and that like but you don't think to take your phone i was like this i think there's

01:37:59.880 no way it's gonna do it again it's gonna do it again like three or four times i called david

01:38:04.220 and he was like that's fascinating what time is the show today it's all just run-of-the-mill stuff

01:38:09.380 at this point i was like but that's like i don't get it to be honest it's like it didn't like

01:38:12.780 change my life or anything it's just something i was like yeah that's not that's not how things

01:38:16.760 move it's not how a plane a plane doesn't move this way and then go out of your sight that way

01:38:20.900 it doesn't do it four times would you say it uh it was i mean did it that many times do you think

01:38:25.200 was aware that you were looking it's a strange it was so far away it's how i it seems like it's

01:38:31.300 performing for me or maybe for somebody else that's closer that it's looking at but like

01:38:36.000 it's doing a thing it's it's performative for sure it's doing the same maneuver yeah um it wasn't for

01:38:42.160 me i don't know wild yeah but uh that that happened and that was probably less than a year ago yeah

01:38:47.580 that was uh when we had the studio at my house i had that one um i got out and i i chased it

01:38:53.220 gonna happen i'm on the porch with my wife not long ago and all of a sudden i look up in the

01:38:59.880 night sky we be seeing shit tommy and something something's moving across it looks like a comet 0.87

01:39:04.340 with a tail oh yeah yeah but it's moving so slow and the tail is not facing the right direction 0.98

01:39:13.600 you sent me a video of it didn't you yeah yeah it's a shit video um but the tail is in front of 0.97

01:39:18.920 it almost like it's illuminating where it's going and it's cruising across the sky for so long 0.99

01:39:25.720 and people are like that's a plane dumbass like no no this thing drove me i i got my phone and i

01:39:32.220 ran out of the house and i was able to see it it's changing colors that's the thing we will see like 0.92

01:39:37.620 from from where we are you'll see a lot of elon's launches oh yeah i've seen that too you'll see

01:39:44.060 that i know what that looks like and i know what starlink looks like when it's in the atmosphere

01:39:47.620 or like you can tell like there's like a group of them i've seen that before there are things that

01:39:52.060 like like i said like the movements are a dead giveaway of like all right something's happened

01:39:55.900 that's intelligent it's either being controlled intelligently or it is intelligent so when you're

01:40:00.360 seeing stuff like that it's like yeah this is something else yeah it was bizarre but yeah i

01:40:04.300 mean you'll see and it's also wide open out here yeah florida's very flat and there's no mountains

01:40:09.860 and there's no um skyscrapers really not where we're at so it's like you can see far man you

01:40:15.480 could see a lot so i would say on any given night you look at the sky long enough you'll see

01:40:19.460 something yeah absolutely and there's a lot of reports at the moment i know the world's pretty

01:40:24.620 crazy right now but so many people are seeing this stuff at the moment yeah and managing to

01:40:28.460 capture it as well there's a lot of cool videos yeah a lot of them look like as you said like

01:40:31.920 meteorites but they're moving in different ways that you know ways that meteorites shouldn't be

01:40:37.020 moving you know yeah i saw one the other day where um it curved upward and then made a turn

01:40:41.840 and was like this is not a meteor it looks just like one until it goes up and then it turns and

01:40:46.000 then it turns back again starts snaking around the sky and you're like okay this is something

01:40:49.600 else but you're right there's been a huge uptick the last two weeks alone yeah massively massively

01:40:55.760 yeah yeah and when we think of where the world is right now you know it is crazy i mean i think

01:41:00.400 some of this stuff might be technology that we've got that they don't share um but some of it just

01:41:05.120 defies logic you know i don't know i don't know what you guys are thinking on i think they're

01:41:09.040 getting ready for um if you look into the bledsoes uh ryan bledsoe chris bledsoe these are uh ufo

01:41:15.820 experiencers they're they're christian but i think they're being deceived by uh one entity they're

01:41:20.880 in contact with in particular calls itself the lady the bledsoes will say the lady has a bunch

01:41:26.320 of different names mother mary holy spirit isis ishtar uh hathor and a bunch of other ones yeah

01:41:32.980 and it's which is you know ridiculous but um i do believe they're in communication with the real

01:41:37.860 entity and that entity told them that this is all the way back in 2012 that there was going to come

01:41:43.480 a time where there's going to be war between israel and iran and when that happens um it'll

01:41:49.400 basically go all the way up to the brink of nuclear war which will be stopped by uh orbs that are

01:41:56.140 going to come out of the ocean and they even gave a date uh the star regulus or regulus i don't know

01:42:02.140 how you pronounce it is supposed to glow red and align with the sphinx in egypt and that is actually

01:42:07.480 real so so you know hats off to them i will say to get a prophecy back in 2012 and then for that

01:42:16.300 star to align with the sphinx that's supposed to happen april april six and it just so happens

01:42:21.360 we're in war right now with iran um on israel's behalf i would argue and so uh you know pretty

01:42:29.980 great conditions for that to happen the the alignment is going to happen and the war is

01:42:34.600 happening and the orbs are upticking currently so um the idea is that and i you know keep in

01:42:41.620 mind just for your audience so they so they understand um this is a massive deception in

01:42:46.500 my opinion um we're gonna have something we need to touch on that stuff today huh no we're gonna

01:42:51.840 have something presents itself as a savior figure and um this is gonna fool a lot of people but

01:42:58.520 But we are experiencing this right now.

01:43:03.740 So not only the orbs, but also these these meteors and things like that.

01:43:08.420 And I mean, I don't know. It's looking like we might find out what's today's date as we record here.

01:43:14.500 25th, the 25th. So we have about 11 days, 12 days.

01:43:18.940 I think it's 31 days in March, 12 days until this alignment.

01:43:22.580 when the alignment happens is that's going to precede this event shortly after that supposedly

01:43:30.840 this isn't my prediction supposedly there's going to be you know that this war is going to get

01:43:35.520 real terrifying for a lot of people nuclear you know war is going to break out also keep in mind

01:43:42.040 there's a not just a prediction but i think there's actual scheduling of donald trump

01:43:45.980 declassifying or at least

01:43:48.220 addressing the nation on

01:43:50.420 the UFO phenomenon or

01:43:52.300 they're going to say aliens but I don't think they're going to give us

01:43:54.580 aliens I think they're going to give us

01:43:55.900 craft and technology stuff like that

01:43:58.520 that should be in May

01:44:00.420 beginning of May so

01:44:01.820 all this stuff kind of lines up like especially

01:44:04.420 if we're going to get these

01:44:06.400 events happening and like strange things and then

01:44:08.480 you have the government lined up to explain

01:44:10.640 it to us and they're already teasing it so

01:44:12.540 we're constantly

01:44:14.460 looking out for little feelers

01:44:16.720 and clues of what's happening next

01:44:18.360 yeah

01:44:18.680 interesting times ahead gentlemen

01:44:22.160 and we're going to find out very soon if that's the case

01:44:24.460 yeah yeah if we do find out

01:44:26.640 have us back and we'll break it down

01:44:28.540 for your audience so they don't fall into the big deception

01:44:30.660 absolutely man

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