00:00:00.000i i quit in 2017 when i realized it's all corrupt to full-time youtube yeah and uh i did heaps of
00:00:08.560party drugs always thought psychedelics were like don't it be not in control and then just the
00:00:14.420universe talking to me and yeah now plenty of experiences with mushrooms and all that stuff
00:00:18.860but yeah i had my uh my i guess what you would call your heroic dose uh with mushrooms and
00:00:24.920it was manageable you know a lot of people before you do it you have all these stories that kind of
00:00:32.500you have these presuppositions what it's going to be like i was like this is actually regular uh
00:00:37.920not regular you know what i mean but it was like it was not the extreme trying to say he's built
00:00:41.700different no no no it was i i had conversations with people who didn't know i was on mushrooms
00:00:46.300so that that's pretty good so you did like nine years of school it's like because i know
00:00:51.620pharmaceuticals uh being a pharmacist that's like intensive right uh five years but um yeah i was
00:00:58.240always into like natural medicine and stuff as well but um yeah so quick backstory i've been a
00:01:03.760conspiracy theorist for 25 years um it's an amazing time to be alive right yeah it is so
00:01:09.940so much crazy shit about australia that even i'm like every day you find something new about
00:01:15.620i might ask you guys about your thoughts on like resets and tartaria but america and australia and0.94
00:01:21.120the parallels 1776 1778 like it is just there's so much overlap that's interesting yeah yeah yeah
00:01:30.500anyway but today um when we start recording i want to get into your story and just talk about
00:01:35.620everything you've learned over the journey of your podcast and um get into all the juicy stuff
00:01:40.260yeah for sure i'm excited man cool cool and how do you like to be introduced just david and top
00:01:46.520lobster or i feel like yeah you could do that that's fine we both have animal names um because
00:01:52.600there's something wrong with us but they were given to us uh yeah i guess top and raven yeah
00:01:58.620it's a little i mean i've already been docked so it doesn't matter yeah yeah yeah oh you have yeah
00:02:05.680yeah we cover a lot of pretty serious content on here and when someone hears top lobster from my
00:02:10.300audience they might be like oh i can't take these guys seriously but no no you can call me uh well
00:02:14.940i'll explain the name it's uh yeah cool it's got an interesting background i guess awesome okay
00:02:21.580let's get into it three two one oh sorry hardware issue three two one hi guys thanks for tuning
00:02:33.020into our episode of nuggets news super special guests and that is nephilim death squad so
00:02:38.780welcome to the show david and top how are you guys doing doing well brother thanks for uh
00:02:43.740inviting us yeah man thank you and sorry sorry about my surname uh but that's what we're gonna
00:02:48.960go by so if anyone's offended whatever man we're gonna we're rolling with that how you it's nice
00:02:53.480to meet you well for everyone that doesn't know you guys um maybe give us a bit of a background
00:02:59.240to the nicknames how you got the show going and you've been crushing it like you got on sam
00:03:03.720tinfoil hats mount crush more so well done on that yeah well thank you very much um i mean as far as
00:03:10.040the the names um mine's pretty easy i actually go by the raven which is i thought good for
00:03:18.080marketing purposes branding purposes but my last name is corvo which is just a derivative of corvo
00:03:25.580which is italian in spain you know that kind of area and it just means raven means crow raven
00:03:31.320you know uh corvid which is just a species of blackbird um but i said hey i might as well use
00:03:37.680it because once you step into the sort of conspiracy arena um adding a little mystique uh
00:03:44.280doesn't hurt yeah nice yeah i was uh previously before i was in the conspiracy arena i was in the
00:03:51.240like political arena social commentary kind of kind of place and i was having a conversation
00:03:57.000about uh some taboo topics ended up getting docs so i decided uh i'll go by i'll go by a nickname
00:04:05.020and uh jordan peterson was big at the time this is years and years ago so the first chapter of
00:04:09.600his book is talking about the lobsters and how they stand up straight because they have a similar
00:04:13.720dopamine system as human beings and every time they win a fight they stand up uh straighter with
00:04:18.660their shoulders back and they they'll create this posture they're the dominant lobster the top
00:04:24.100lobster and um i was from brooklyn so it's like a top lobster kind of thing and that turned into uh0.99
00:04:30.420uh racist clothing brand then turned into a i don't want to click curse on here but a crap0.88
00:04:36.660posting twitter account that gets retweeted by elon musk and then that turns into like0.98
00:04:42.440into the comedy sphere working for uh lewis j gomez skank fest uh legion of skanks and then
00:04:48.780that turns into uh christian conspiracy yeah inside of a coffee shop slash fabrication studio
00:04:56.080it's been a bizarre journey uh that you couldn't have plotted out if you tried
00:05:01.360that's awesome well i didn't know about lobster's dopamine system so i've already learned something
00:05:06.980today and uh my nickname was nugget because i was short up until grade 12 didn't go through
00:05:11.940puberty till later on in life so i was just short nuggety and it sort of stuck ever since that's
00:05:16.100and now you've been how long have you been doing this because we were just talking about that we're
00:05:19.520like nugget that's an interesting and now like you know you're we're searching the email i was
00:05:23.600like what should i search to find the email again he says nugget i was like are you kidding me and
00:05:26.880you're off and you're you're soaring now so you're locked into nugget but it's been a lifelong thing
00:05:30.540then yeah it has since grade seven but um let's get into all the juicy stuff so guys what have
00:05:36.660you learned over your journey on the podcast from the angle of like demons and what is this evil
00:05:43.520force we're up against with some people want to talk about aliens i've had david ike on the show
00:05:47.600with his reptilian theory you've got this hybrid stuff going off and obviously the mainstream are
00:05:53.080really starting to push the ufo disclosure narrative so where are you guys sitting with
00:05:58.040your thoughts on all that so um for me it was i was always kind of into the new age and the occult
00:06:05.260and conspiracies um since i was really young and i had i guess you could say some uh generational
00:06:13.540iniquity is how the bible would put it but there were seemed to be spirits attached to my my my
00:06:19.780bloodline and so i grew up with these stories i grew up with these experiences and as soon as the
00:06:25.640internet came about in any real meaningful way you know when like youtube kind of the golden years of
00:06:30.080youtube like 2005 2006 2007 where it was the wild west and it was a great place to be i mean the
00:06:37.020internet was just a great place to be at that time still is you know we're in fantastic times but
00:06:40.880that was there was something different about it and so um i'm taking all my experiences and i'm
00:06:45.920trying to find other people who are having the same ones and of course this leads to the concept
00:06:51.140of demons which you know is not immediately something that i'm sold on right a lot of people
00:06:57.260talk about uh shadow integration or the daemon or the idea that maybe the the universe is reflecting
00:07:05.760things back to you or their aspects of the self is a multitude of explanations for these entities
00:07:11.940that i was comfortable with for a very long time and um but nevertheless it leads to that sort of
00:07:19.740uh occult practices demonology and what that springboards into is the fact that you can kind
00:07:26.120of see the evidence for it all over the music industry all over hollywood right we're talking
00:07:30.380about the symbolism people like isaac weissip have made an entire career out of occult symbolism in
00:07:36.020pop culture he does a fantastic job of that and so it's rich and it's constantly giving
00:07:41.260And that just becomes what is now I would call a lifelong journey.
00:07:46.760But it's not until I have my own encounters as a husband and as a father where I realize these things need to stop.
00:07:57.960They have to stop. And I am desperate and have no modality for stopping them.
00:08:02.940And so not raised religious, never really, you know, of course, in conspiracy, the Bible comes up revelation more popularly because of all of the things that seem to be prophecy being fulfilled at any given moment.
00:08:16.940But that's really about it. And I didn't have recourse.
00:08:21.460I couldn't make this thing stop and my wife had seen it as well and I had kept it to myself
00:08:28.040and then my son had seen it and I had still kept it to myself because as a father you don't want to
00:08:33.780certainly don't want to plant seeds of fear in your child you want to be able to sleep at night
00:08:38.360and not have those intrusive moments where they're knocking on the door because they can't sleep
00:08:41.640so I'm really doing my best to keep this under wraps nevertheless they see it and it feels as
00:08:47.700though, things are evolving so rapidly that I need to do something. I call out to Jesus Christ
00:08:55.000for the first time in my life, and the entire phenomenon stops on a dime. And so I start to,
00:09:02.680it's a long journey, a very long journey, like I said, came from the new age and occult and all
00:09:06.980those things. But I start to look for other people who have had the experiences that I've had,
00:09:12.120very similarly to how I was doing when I was a young man. And that's the beginning of getting
00:09:17.320me all the way here. It keeps bearing fruit. It keeps making sense. And I have this tremendous
00:09:25.420worldview of, you know, nearly 20 years of conspiracy that you would think the Christian
00:09:32.680narrative would clash with. And certainly the Christian narrative that is the Western reductive
00:09:40.740caricature of Christianity, of Christ, of the Bible that does clash, but not what I was learning,
00:09:48.340not what I was learning. And it wasn't some big secret. It wasn't like there was some Gnostic
00:09:52.440seeds at the bottom of the Bible that I had to, you just start to understand things in a way that
00:09:57.160is closer to scripture than what the average person is experiencing. And it all begins to
00:10:04.000make sense so um to cap that this show is is for me my journey in testing this thing testing this
00:10:12.860metal over and over again publicly and we're 650 episodes probably right now and uh and it keeps
00:10:20.360bearing fruit and it keeps getting stronger and making more and more sense and so i'm continuing
00:10:26.120down this path yeah i've got a heap of thoughts on that but um uh lobster any thoughts on the
00:10:35.660demon alien what you think is at the top of the evil chain before i sort of expand on the bible
00:10:39.840and that um yeah i got some thoughts but i'm kind of curious of i don't want you to lose your uh
00:10:45.820your question there because like david just gave you 15 i know i gave you that's a i got a real
00:10:49.840problem if you talk about aliens too much aliens are in the news every day now so it's like we're
00:10:54.280not going to forget about it's honestly it's it's kind of exhausting to a degree yeah well cool
00:10:58.620yeah let's keep with the flow then so i think i agree with you after being in this field for so
00:11:02.860long at the bottom of the rabbit hole it's like this this satanism and all these secret societies
00:11:07.740that are influencing running the world and so we're already starting to see people go well if
00:11:12.160this level of evil exists out there towards what they're doing to humanity and children
00:11:15.880then the opposite must be true and why is there such this huge attack on christianity and all
00:11:22.760these things so i i think this there's very something to that that more and more people
00:11:27.180are realizing it's not that oh you have to go to church and the corruption in like the catholic
00:11:31.420church or whatever it's oh well which sections of the bible have they rewritten and why it must
00:11:35.980have been important to cover it up and so when i get what you're saying because when someone says
00:11:40.400i'm a christian well that can mean 30 000 different denominations or spins and crazy new modern
00:11:46.360churches and all this stuff so i agree with you that yeah deep down i think the spiritual war
00:11:52.560we're in is really on like morality and christianity brings back a lot of that morality and
00:11:57.600just good principles to people and that's what satanism is trying to destroy right that's kind
00:12:02.420of how i view it but what what are your guys thoughts on on all of that um so as far as like
00:12:07.260the christianity thing we we come at this from a a slightly different standpoint and it's not like
00:12:12.720we're not your orthodox christians and not not meaning like the orthodox church but like the
00:12:17.360regular Christian that you'll meet and encounter, oftentimes when Christians that are in the church0.96
00:12:24.960meet us, they're off put. And we've already been kind of like shunned. And because listen,
00:12:32.080in reality, David was a, you were a welder and a metal fabricator. I used to work on the tracks
00:12:38.640and I used to drive an 18 wheeler for a living. So like working on the railroad, you know,
00:12:43.720we're just blue collar dudes. So I'm going to talk how I'm going to talk and I'm going to say
00:12:48.900what I'm going to say. And usually when I say stuff, I just say exactly what I mean. And people
00:12:54.220don't like that. They want to, you know, I guess be fluffed a little bit and I'm not here to
00:12:59.220cradle you. So, uh, we, we come at it from a slightly different perspective, but like upon
00:13:07.500further review of the Bible itself and like rereading this, I'm like, Oh no, no. Like
00:13:12.560And all this fluffed up worldview that we're generally presented as like what Christians are and how they're supposed to act is not how people acted throughout the Bible.0.62
00:13:23.500So coming to terms with that has been a little bit easier.
00:13:26.500Obviously, cleaning up a lot of the things that I still need to do have been important.
00:13:31.420But understanding that like, OK, no, no, no, you're being genuine, you're being yourself, you're searching for these answers and let everything else fall by the side and fall where it may after that.
00:13:43.320So that's that's like been our journey in a way.
00:13:58.320The common Christian wouldn't look at it.
00:14:00.300And the problem is whether you're into the New Age or you're into the occult or any of these things, for very many people, it's because they had an experience.
00:14:11.980And even though I believe that the Bible has the answers and Jesus Christ is the truth, the modern Christian is not armed for the reality of the spiritual warfare that we're engaged in.
00:14:22.900So someone will have an experience and they might end up going to Wiccan or they might end up going towards the occult because there are answers that are seemingly readily available.0.62
00:14:34.900And the community of Christianity, the people that are just going to the church on Sundays and going through the motions, they're so detached for the most part from anything like that.
00:14:44.480And that was very much my experience is you have something strange and it drives you to seek answers.0.57
00:14:50.120and when you look over to you know modern christians you go there's no way and in very
00:14:57.340many ways you would be correct there's no way they would have these answers um to be perfectly
00:15:02.260honest the element that keyed in and changed the whole worldview for me was the concept of
00:15:09.840the nephilim and i don't obviously that's the show's namesake we didn't really talk about it
00:15:15.240that much anymore because it's you know we beat it to death in the first hundred episodes or
00:15:19.520whatever it was um but this idea that there's extra canonical text right some have been removed
00:15:25.600people for the most part seem to understand that the uh in ethiopia their bible still contains
00:15:32.140you know the book of enoch and enoch is a strange one because the first one seems to be uh just an
00:15:39.080elaboration on elements of the bible and then two and three depart in a really crazy way and so you
00:15:46.540have to kind of treat these things as um interesting but don't they're not salvation
00:15:52.620issues so don't hang your faith on them uh you know enoch three goes on to say that enoch
00:15:57.820became the angel uh metatron i believe which is and the giants were like uh 400 feet tall and
00:16:04.020which maybe you know people go on and on they say that pink himalayan salt is actually the
00:16:08.600petrified remains of giants and and it's a lot of fun i've stopped eating pink the devil's tree
00:16:14.800The Devil's Tree is a crazy one, you know, so there's a lot of stuff that point to not just megalithic structures, but megalithic beings potentially, and I'm a big fan of it.
00:16:25.380I don't discard it, but it's something that I don't hang my faith on.
00:16:28.220But this idea in Enoch that the disembodied spirits of these Nephilim when, you know, most of them died in the flood, their spirits, they don't ascend.
00:16:37.600And we're going to get into this idea, by the way.0.56
00:16:39.420Let's explain what a Nephilim is a product of a fallen angel and a human woman.
00:16:44.920So biblically, Genesis 6 is saying that the fallen angels saw the human woman.0.76
00:16:50.220They saw that they were good, and they procreated with them, and they begot the Nephilim.
00:16:54.440Which is not actually something that the church is unified on.
00:16:58.200A lot of people will give pushback, and they'll say, it's not the sons of God, it's the sons of Seth.
00:17:02.960And the translation, I have like a little, this is my Benihana sign, but it says Benihana Elohim right here.
00:17:08.060That means sons of God. That's the Hebrew translation, and it comes up in Genesis 6, and I believe it's referring to the sons of God being angels, these Elohim angelic beings.
00:17:19.260Other people will say, no, no, they're the sons of a man named Seth, who's a descendant of Adam.
00:17:23.820But elsewhere throughout the Bible, the Benaha Elohim is referred specifically as these heavenly entities that are in the presence of God.0.99
00:17:32.380if you read the book of Job, when Job is going to be tempted, God is chilling with the B'nei
00:17:38.460Elohim and Satan approaches. He walks up and he says, yo, can I tempt this guy? And then the story0.99
00:17:43.180goes on. So God's not hanging out with human men and delegating and talking about what he's going
00:17:49.300to do next. He's hanging out with the angels. And in fact, I think the Dead Sea Scrolls do a good
00:17:55.280job because that translation is specifically the sons of God. And so that's the oldest one that we
00:18:01.420have right now and that's also where you get the book of enoch which is fascinating because in the
00:18:05.820beginning of it it talks about how this is for the fig tree generation and that is prophecy from
00:18:12.740revelation um you know end of times prophecy so this idea that uh you know a series of scrolls
00:18:19.220were discovered i think it was like 47 or 48 very among other things yeah very interesting time the
00:18:25.460cia uh roswell comes about shortly after operation paperclip it's like everything just kicks off
00:18:31.200institution of the state of israel yeah i've read i've read a lot about that i watched a
00:18:35.920documentary how they might have even been forged the dead sea scrolls and stuff but there's a i
00:18:39.920mean it is suspicious it's a suspicious time yeah but one thing i do i'm really on board with you
00:18:45.920like the science background is the offspring being giants and we see like a liger with a lion and a
00:18:51.580tiger right and so i really like this theory that if we were genetically tweaked or a hybrid or
00:18:57.620whatever and then we have the same number of chromosomes and then humans second and third
00:19:01.380chromosome has been fused like there's all this kind of scientific evidence to back up this
00:19:06.240biblical myth but i still kind of wonder like what is a fallen angel and isn't it isn't in
00:19:11.040physical form and are they actually having sex or is this referring to like genetic or scientific
00:19:16.640impregnation do you know i mean like any thoughts on all that that i say yes yes and yeah yes and
00:19:22.380that's see now you just opened up an entire rabbit hole but you want to can i just tell
00:19:26.380him about the science part of it because i think he'd like this part um so uh in in the bible there
00:19:31.780is a nimrod and nimrod's a mighty hunter and people speculate that nimrod was a giant he was
00:19:39.460a huge dude and they would call him nephilim but that's not the correct term he the correct term
00:19:44.700is uh gibberim and it says specifically he became gibberim now in uh in the book of enoch i think
00:19:52.980it's like Enoch 1 7 or no no sorry Enoch 7 chapter 7 it talks about when uh when the watchers
00:20:01.420were taking the wives of men what they taught these human women as they like so there was a
00:20:07.180relationship meaning like they took them as wives meaning there's like a a covenant there so whether
00:20:13.580we're talking about sex uh I don't maybe but there's like a dowry there's a dowry there's an
00:20:18.920exchange of uh technology or knowledge to the fathers of those daughters in order to get them
00:20:25.400so there's a trade-off which by the way is consistent through most mythologies right there
00:20:30.200is like this god that imparts various technologies or teachings whether it's agriculture or
00:20:36.560metallurgy or this thing like you know like what what the hell is this or if it's recovering the
00:20:41.660crashed craft of roswell and getting new technology there is seemingly an exchange uh they call that
00:20:47.580sometimes they call it a gifting ground oh it's interesting right like the the crashed uh the
00:20:52.180crashed ufo sites people will go there and they're called like gifting grounds and you can go and
00:20:56.620they pick up like weird medals and stuff but uh anyway they teach the woman a number of things
00:21:02.300like makeup they teach the men you know uh metallurgy and they mentioned that they teach
00:21:07.700them the cutting of roots and we get this from uh sean from kingdom and context who's who's great
00:21:12.840he's fantastic yeah so the cutting of roots is an interesting one because now we're dabbling
00:21:17.560in in pharmakia like that's that's your lane so one of the chemicals in miracle grow is gibberellin0.81
00:21:26.300and gibberellin actually like it retards this uh it retards a hormone in the plant so that way it0.73
00:21:34.600can have indeterminate growth and nimrod became gibbereen so it it leads you to think i was like0.76
00:21:43.560okay so they taught them everything about cutting of roots was there some sort of genetic manipulation
00:21:47.980where they were manipulating something in human beings to let them continue to grow and then you
00:21:55.660get these giants like that yeah it results in stem and shoot elongation yeah and i do believe that it
00:22:03.240is if you were to extract it from anywhere it would be the root system of a plant uh gibberellin
00:22:08.260is commonly used right now in miracle growth.
00:22:13.080So, I mean, there's these things that are little hints, it feels like.
00:22:19.000And once again, this is not something that, like, you're to hang your faith
00:22:22.600or it's not a salvation issue, it's none of these things.
00:22:25.020But it feels like, I mean, that's incredibly rich, this idea.
00:22:29.940And it's in a text that I don't want to disparage, you know,
00:22:36.080The church or the people that are going through it, but it's no secret there are folks that are moving through that system like zombies.
00:22:41.260They show up on Sunday, and they go through the motions, and they leave it there, and they go back to their lives for the remaining six days.
00:22:49.400And then, of course, all of the corruption that exists in any of the church systems because we are men and we're fallible, so anything that we create is going to have rot in it because we're flawed.
00:22:59.260but this thing it's been reduced and it's been made a mockery of um especially here in the west
00:23:07.280it's probably the most important part because the bible is describing a battle it's describing a
00:23:12.480battle between the seed of man and the seed of something else seed of satan the seed of this
00:23:17.980that's the first prophecy in genesis is that the seed of the woman will crush the head of the
00:23:23.660serpent and then that goes on and on and and you know all of the old testament points that's one
00:23:28.700of the things that gets me is there is this big Gnosticism movement towards the idea of
00:23:34.500the Demiurge, and Jesus Christ becomes debased in that way because now he's open to interpretation.
00:27:48.460Yeah, we talk about it every day, like seven episodes a week.
00:27:52.560But we're used to the idea of clockwork orange,
00:27:57.220where you strap them in a chair and you peel their eyelids open and you subject them to traumatizing, you know, images and you dose them with psychedelics and everything is to to withdraw away from this stimuli.
00:28:09.620Right. And gain access. I think what I've perceived is gain access illegally to these spiritual realms.
00:28:15.900And this is coming from somebody who's done a fair bit of psychedelics. I think I understand a little bit more now.
00:28:26.800Programmable personalities that emerge, states of dissociation or disassociation that allow the individual to remote view or astral project or this and that.
00:28:34.860There's so many fruits, you could say fruits, that have been bore from this kind of technology.
00:28:43.540You could call it a technology, a teaching.
00:28:47.440So we are actively dosing ourselves. We are actively traumatizing ourselves on a daily basis with these little black scrying boxes that we have scrying mirrors. And I think that I'm going to use people have to read between the lines. I don't want to get you dinged for for the language here.
00:29:05.120um but there is a medical intervention that results in autism and things of that nature
00:29:12.100and that is the ultimate disassociation these individuals cannot even engage with their
00:29:18.000physical bodies yeah this this show um as it was like really picking up one of my friends was like
00:29:23.880you've got to watch it this is a it's crazy it's right up your lane and he he was right but like
00:29:29.760for the wrong angles he just thought that we'd find it interesting but immediately these kids
00:29:35.920start talking about like the the state of disassociation that they're they're having
00:29:41.200every day and then they talk about uh things like spelling and they and i think it's called like
00:29:46.780assisted uh i forget exactly the term but like the mother or caretaker will put like an arm
00:29:52.440or hand and even a finger on the kid just so that they can understand where their body is
00:29:58.200in uh in comparison to where their spirit is yeah it's like the physical sensation like it's it's
00:30:04.440like an anchor point right like here's your it's almost what they're doing is like here's your body
00:30:07.860kiddo yeah and they're like from what from what they're explaining these children that are sentient
00:30:13.300that are in their body but don't have control of it are almost like pulled away from it have you
00:30:18.420ever seen venom um no the spider-man uh dr strange wax him and the little spirit comes out that's
00:30:25.900like sometimes i think of that yeah yeah yeah i was i was thinking about the spider-man 3 or
00:30:30.220whatever where he hits the the poles and the frequency makes the venom come off of oh yeah
00:30:34.320yeah it's it feels like that but yeah very much like uh out an out-of-body experience is what
00:30:39.820these kids are having so in the physical they're throwing tantrums they're wearing diapers they're
00:30:45.440pooping but mentally they're actually there and this this uh podcast series goes through
00:30:52.020this idea of these kids having telepathy and being able to communicate with their parents
00:30:57.840and it's actually very interesting but you know what i watched it um i don't know you guys would
00:31:04.580i had a european doctor on who's reversing autism you guys should chat to him reversing autism
00:31:10.040that sounds like a curse that's incredible so he was getting because again i'm very much into
00:31:16.580what you've just described there and i watched the telepathy tapes and but he was getting into
00:31:21.620like pulling all the heavy metals out of the brain yeah and he also had that had a theory that these
00:31:26.420people could be stuck in a trip and what he found was that they had high levels of serotonin and dmt
00:31:31.780that their body couldn't break down and so once you give the enzymes to break that down some of
00:31:36.420these people were adults that were non-verbal that are now normal functioning oh my god that's
00:31:41.860yeah i'll tell you guys up with um dr christian bogner if you want but yeah it's kind of another
00:31:47.140good segue into do you view things now like meditation or breath work or psychedelics as
00:31:54.800like bad and evil because they're not in the bible or you know some people say well maybe
00:31:58.760jesus did eat mushrooms or like where are you at with this other stuff that some maybe traditional
00:32:03.880christians would say oh that's that's woo that's witchcraft you can't have plant medicines or
00:32:08.160anything like that so for me let's start with meditation um go ahead meditation is an interesting
00:32:13.640one uh david meditated but in the talking about in the bible yeah yeah biblically not not him
00:32:20.580he doesn't he doesn't shut up can't quiet my mind david meditated but when he did he said
00:32:26.500a lot it's like think on think on that which means that he still has a an aim and i think that's you
00:32:32.940know when you're talking about aim we're talking about sin and when you're not aimed at a thing
00:32:37.080you're sinning so specifically for me i'm sinning if i'm not aimed at god now if i meditate and they
00:32:42.960say, clear your mind, clear your body, clear your soul so that you're an empty vessel. Even Bob
00:32:48.500Lazar touches on this on the Joe Rogan experience where he goes, yeah, they just see us as containers.
00:32:53.920Yeah, which I would agree with. And he's correct. Like people are containers where we're meant to
00:32:58.820be filled up and poured out. Like we're just instruments of worship, whether it be to God
00:33:03.900or whether it be to, who knows, this sign over here, whatever it is, you worship something.
00:33:08.840yeah um so when we're meditating i would just be like be careful emptying yourself out and not being
00:33:16.640aware what is filling that because you're going to be filled with something yeah so whatever you
00:33:21.680call in or whatever is around if you're if i believe in localities as well like that that
00:33:28.100leads into the psychedelic uh issue but uh yeah if you're emptying yourself out i would be aware
00:33:34.880what you invite to fill you, I would ask God or the Holy Spirit to fill me rather than another
00:33:41.540entity or idea or presence, because that's the realm we live in, I believe. I think we live like
00:33:49.920the upside down, you know, stranger things kind of nails it. There's something happening on the
00:33:54.620under tapestry of this carpet that can interact with us in a spiritual way and where we don't
00:34:00.380perceive it yeah unless you take drugs dmt psychedelics where you can peel back that veil
00:34:05.820but now we're talking about issues of legality now you stepping into a realm that you don't
00:34:11.000belong in and know nothing about and you're just going to go ahead and interact with you're swimming
00:34:15.440with sharks yeah well that's and people will accuse christians of being like fear-based and
00:34:20.860and it's like i i just understand it now as if you want to use a new age principle um this idea
00:34:28.640of like the fractal nature of reality or even like as above so below like we have laws and systems
00:34:35.440and inhabitants in this physical realm there are laws and systems and inhabitants in that spiritual
00:34:41.020realm and many of them are if you don't want to use the term demon because people get all wrapped
00:34:47.160up in that um you could say speak more to their nature which is parasitic these things are
00:34:53.580parasitic they will influence and whisper to you things that will put you in a state of depression
00:35:00.720anxiety fear anger and they will feed off that everybody's familiar with the concept of like
00:35:05.380as robert monroe puts it um so that's a huge issue right there and i think that at any given moment
00:35:15.020we're giving consent legal consent access to ourselves to things that we can't even perceive
00:35:22.280i think when top says we're swimming with sharks in very many ways that's that's true um we cannot
00:35:28.540perceive it we're in the ocean we're treading water and around us is all manner of life uh but
00:35:35.320some of these things don't have your best interest so so as far as these meditative processes and
00:35:39.960everything i don't think it's inherently um bad there seems to be a function that people can
00:35:45.940access these realms but fasting like fasting is is one that will tune you into the the
00:35:51.900supernatural realm, the spiritual realm, much more so than in a different state. We have a guest that
00:35:56.600comes on the show, Seth Kicklighter. He wrote a book. It's a lengthy one. I don't think we have
00:36:01.900it in here, so you have to forgive me for not remembering the title of it. But a lot of it is
00:36:06.100based off of... Oh, spirit realm shenanigans.
00:36:07.920Spirit realm shenanigans. And a lot of it is based off of analyzing the writings of Robert Monroe
00:36:14.020and coming to a conclusion that these entities that are outside of our physical realm
00:36:21.200can manufacture entire experiences for us.
00:36:25.400So they do this regularly, can do this regularly in the dream state,
00:36:29.640but in psychedelic induced states or even remote viewing or astral projection,
00:36:37.200many of these experiences, real, you're going through something,
00:41:14.700This thing has legal rights over your bloodline because of this great sin.
00:41:19.900Now, in the Bible, it says, Jesus Christ has paid the debt.
00:41:22.620the blood of jesus christ has paid that debt because this is all legal it's all a legal
00:41:26.440exchange it's it's funny right there's like science articles now saying like oh it seems
00:41:30.520that mothers can pass down you know certain traits for like seven generations from trauma
00:41:35.260from trauma yeah says that in the bible but you know congrats on figuring out i guess which is
00:41:40.040so often the case um but this this debt has already been paid a lot of people aren't aware
00:41:45.880of that they don't understand that legal aspect right we're talking about the spiritual realm
00:41:51.360There is a lot of legality going on here and sacrifices, which we see this occult side doing all the time.
00:41:58.960The purer the sacrifice, the more effective it is at transmuting reality.
00:42:04.080This the purest one has happened already.
00:42:06.800And the debt has been paid to wipe the slate clean for any of these iniquities or, you know, accesses that have been given over to the spiritual realm over us.0.59
00:42:16.180Even that idea, sorry to interrupt, is very interesting because from a Christian standpoint, people wouldn't want to even discuss the death of Jesus Christ as this – they wouldn't want to discuss the similarities of that sort of sacrifice to what we'd see like maybe at an Epstein Island.
00:43:02.500But yeah, it's some female rapper or R&B artist who's showing off her chicken killing closet.0.59
00:43:09.980It's actually fully out on display now.
00:43:12.400So many people in the hip-hop industry in particular are showing you that they participate in Santa Maria or Santa Muerte, and they're sacrificing animals to this deity for wealth and that deity for romantic success.
00:43:25.920And they're doing it like it's MTV Cribs.
00:43:28.240Like they're just showing you on the internet.
00:43:32.720If it's the same one that you just described, I saw that last night.
00:43:35.880In a random documentary I was watching, and she had blood and all that in the corner of her bathroom and said she hadn't planned it in years or something.
00:43:41.900But there's a crazy synchronicity for you guys.
00:47:02.800We've been stripped of our understanding of the spiritual realm.
00:47:05.920We live in this materialistic realm, and we've tossed out the idea of the spiritual realm, much to our detriment.
00:47:10.260I also don't want to strip it of this materialistic part because, you know, as a pharmacist, there is a chemical component to these things.
00:47:18.680And that chemical component makes us susceptible to the spiritual things.
00:47:22.800So right now as a – I guess as a race, a human race, we're dealing with them like two separate things.
00:47:29.860Like, oh, there's a spiritual realm and some people are very woo-woo.0.99
00:47:33.020Maybe they'll put crystals in their butt and go do ayahuasca in the forest.0.71
00:47:36.700And then you have guys that are very serious and they're like, no, no, there is a chemical scientific explanation.0.97
00:47:41.060I'm like, these things interact with each other and the big trick is that we don't want to put them together or look at them on the same table.
00:47:48.280That's like when you have the alien disclosure thing and they're talking about reverse engineered technology and zero point this and that. And I'm like, what are the nature of the entities? What do they want? You know, but I think that over and over again in our research, it appears that our our brains are a sort of frequency receiver.
00:48:06.260And it's a highly advanced form of frequency receiving that it does.
00:48:12.980Its frequency dial is changed by chemicals.
00:48:19.120So various chemicals will alter the waves or the frequencies that we can perceive.
00:48:25.140And these entities over and over again seem to exist in frequency.
00:48:29.300It actually goes back to the telepathy tapes thing, which, by the way, one more little thing on the on the Marzinski note.
00:48:37.380He did have a patient who said the voices want me to let you know that they said you have no right to interfere with their way of life over and over again.
00:48:49.420Their way of life seems to be parasitic and they operate best when you don't perceive them as external.
00:48:54.720when you think they are you when you identify with the thoughts they operate the best as soon
00:49:00.760as you start to treat them as if they're not your own thoughts it's like i caught you like you shine
00:49:05.140a light on this and you're like what a second they're actually very weak right so once again
00:49:09.000christianity is in its form that i've come to understand it is not fear-based we don't have
00:49:13.780anything to fear if we're with god these other things are parasitic worms just to use the you0.88
00:49:19.160know the analogy for real life parasites biological parasites um they can be dealt with there's
00:49:24.440nothing to fear i don't walk around in my everyday life with fear people will hear this worldview and0.99
00:49:29.520go oh my god you must be so scared christians i'm not scared of shit ever dude like literally0.99
00:49:34.860never i do not i don't issue black pills there's no doomer shit coming from our show at all it0.99
00:49:41.280doesn't exist uh whatsoever so i just want to lay that out but um going back to the telepathy tapes0.70
00:49:46.240wait a second i think uh sorry you were trying to say something i was going to say the way you
00:49:49.480frame that then is just know know thyself right and all this effort to deceive us about who we are
00:49:55.960and this perception on our reality people are lost and they don't know themselves and so when
00:50:01.480they don't know if that voice is internal or external that's really i haven't heard anyone
00:50:05.840frame like that before but it's so sneaky it's it's actually very weak there's even like more
00:50:10.240layers to that because the know know thyself thing is a it's a it's an interesting starting
00:50:15.620point but in a way like who are who are any of us we're like one of a billion people just passing
00:50:22.260through this thing and how however long this world's been going on and if we're lucky we get
00:50:27.060120 years that's pretty much like the max of what we're going to do what the hell could we know so
00:50:32.280like I said we're containers I agree Bob Lazar I'm not going to be discouraged by what you're
00:50:37.720saying here but it's like well what am I filling myself up with yeah I can fill myself up with
00:50:41.440something that's going to deceive me and lie to me or maybe give me these short-term gains.
00:50:47.640Or I could fill myself up with the thing that I think is the absolute truth. And whatever that is
00:50:52.700to you, I know what it is to me. So if I know God, then I have a clear direction. It's like my
00:51:00.080compass. So I cannot stray too far from whichever way I'm headed. So knowing myself is good, but a
00:51:07.840lot of people that know themselves, like we were just talking about one of our friends,
00:51:11.440They're like, yeah, the world is like objective and I'm spinning up.
00:51:39.540People have gotten up into this thing where, like, truth, if you look at, let's say, culturally speaking from, like, the left, truth becomes, you know, subjective.
00:52:14.460There's a lot of truth in all these things.
00:52:16.280There's a lot of truth in the telepathy tapes.
00:52:17.800But they use that delivery vehicle of all this truth to Trojan horse you into one lie, one fundamental lie that will exist in there.
00:52:27.780And that lie will change, but it's usually pretty similar.
00:52:31.180Like I said, the one that I really zeroed in on is like this redefining of Christ that happens pretty consistently.
00:52:36.780I bet you he doesn't know this, but what do you think the main point of the telepathy tapes was?
00:52:42.120Like at the very end of it, what was the focus from Kai Dickens?
00:52:47.980I think they were trying to frame like that we need to like kind of towards humans can be more or that we need to upgrade or unlock more superpowers kind of thing.
00:52:59.980We all need to like, so they framed the autism that these kids were suffering through, through like what seems like MK ultra techniques, free range, MK ultra techniques as a gift.
00:53:09.740When I'm listening to it, I said, this seems a little bit like a curse.
00:53:20.380You can be as, it's the same, it's the same lie that the serpent sells in the garden, you know, that we can ascend and we can be as gods effectively.
00:53:29.880Sorry, I picked up my thought where I wanted to go here.
00:53:32.420But an interesting tidbit there that's like not many people know.
00:53:37.020I think episode six of that season one, she had Dr. Joel Infranco.
00:58:34.180I think when a thing is profound and it's new, we do a mistake.
00:58:38.120We make a mistake, and it is therefore good and the truth.
00:58:41.460an entity appears to you you think that when alistair crowley communed with awos or lamb
00:58:47.740that the profundity of that experience didn't make him go this is good and true
00:58:53.400you know now we understand crowley is doing sex magic and he's in altered states constantly and
00:59:01.120calls himself the wickedest man and i know that a lot of that was kind of a trope because that's
00:59:04.980what he was being labeled as um but you look at lamb and it looks like the visage of a modern day
00:59:10.720gray alien. There's so much that seems to be wrong there. I don't think that Crowley thought
00:59:16.060he was wrong. I don't think that he thought he was doing evil. I mean, he made these proclamations
00:59:21.740of being the wickedest man, but I think it's because, well, obviously his upbringing and the
00:59:26.140loss of his father, who was, I believe, a pastor or a priest, and it pushes him in this direction,
00:59:31.700and then, you know, sort of society labels him this, and so he embraces it, which is something
00:59:37.500that i think we're guilty of too it's like you want to call us this and that fine we're this and
00:59:41.580that dude so so in that way you know crowley is is uh you know almost a rebellious individual
00:59:46.980that you can't blame but i don't think the dude genuinely thought he was doing evil i don't think
00:59:53.020anybody who is doing that there's very very far and few in between in my estimation that are
00:59:58.560engaging and let's say like ritual and ceremony and things like that that aren't justifying it
01:00:03.540and it's rooted in some good in their mind you know so we have this thing by nature of seeing
01:00:09.740something that the materialistic realm says does not exist or interacting with something that
01:00:14.560doesn't exist it's so profound changes the paradigm must be good and true and that's a
01:00:20.260huge mistake and i think telepathy is one of those things where it's like yeah man it's it's a reality
01:00:26.240it's a reality but i don't think that it is i think it's it's far in second place third
01:00:33.360place whatever to the spoken word well also on on the idea telepathy um if we can go back a little
01:00:41.900bit more where you were talking about that doctor that found heavy metals in the brain dude you're
01:00:46.760good that were removed that it the telepathy tapes let us down such a crazy path because i
01:00:53.500think in episode two they they mentioned uh man what's his name is it buharaj yeah they mentioned
01:00:58.960Yeah, Dr. Andrija Puharic, who comes around in like 1947 and starts getting patents for his dental tooth implant.
01:01:09.240And basically it's like a metal dental tooth implant, and they were using it to do voice-to-skull technology.
01:01:15.440So think about – you're familiar with like those headphones that will go on your – like right here on your head, and it will vibrate, but it will create the sensation of sound.
01:01:41.500A lot of this experiences that people have, part of the point is to go on and evangelize.
01:01:47.260And it's usually to evangelize like a Gnostic gospel or something like that.
01:01:49.780But they want people to spread this information one way or another that they're getting from these deceptive spirits.
01:01:54.820But in the case of Lucille Ball, she goes and has routine, you know, dental procedure done and gets this implant and starts picking up music in her head as she's driving.
01:02:04.900We've all seen that trope like Looney Tunes used to do that.0.96
01:02:07.640They would get braces and pick up frequencies and such.
01:02:11.080So she's complaining about it to somebody and they say, did you get dental surgery recently?
01:03:16.640now not only are you in this state of disassociation you can't engage with your body
01:03:22.040you have frequency conducting heavy metals directly in your brain these things we've
01:03:29.560already talked about exist in frequency when people are channeling that's where they exist
01:03:34.220some another tidbit of information i was just looking up the exact uh air uh uh sorry uh
01:03:40.620naval base army base that puharich was located at because he was in the army while he's doing
01:03:46.580Well, he gets out of the army and then he starts developing these patents, but he came out of Edgewood Arsenal and Edgewood Arsenal is directly connected to a lot of MKUltra experiments.0.73
01:03:55.720So now we're dealing with different chemical formulas.
01:03:57.880We're dealing with different techniques of how to basically how to get stuff inside people and see what happens.
01:04:03.040And now at this point, you know, we talked about the free range aspect before.
01:04:05.980You're traumatizing yourself with your little scrying, you know, box or scrying mirror.
01:04:10.960We're all on low grade SSRIs probably at any given time.
01:04:15.180we're using psychedelics to do this that and the other thing to commune with the spiritual we all
01:04:18.980have doing heavy metals in our brain that's the other thing yeah rogan is a whole other i love
01:04:23.700joe rogan but there's something really strange when it comes to promoting psychedelics and float
01:04:27.160tanks and the john c lily sort of dolphin experiments with the float tanks with psychedelics
01:04:32.620that mk ultra becomes very fascinated in and if you look at laurel canyon and the popularization
01:04:36.940of the psychedelics movement that was manufactured by military intelligence then joe rogan comes along
01:04:42.180And he creates another psychedelics experience resurgence, you know, culturally speaking it to me, it seems too serendipitous to be innocuous.
01:04:53.180But, yeah, I mean, they're getting these metals into your brain directly.
01:04:58.920Much of the programs that came out of MKUltra, you know, they say MKUltra went away whatever year.
01:05:05.560It's like, no, it was viable and it went to the free range state.
01:05:09.960and it was implemented implemented at scale and i think a lot of it is to like the gate program
01:05:15.780the gifted and talented i think the selection process is for these programs that's what the
01:05:21.640gate is it's it's to find candidates that are suited for because they discovered some people
01:05:27.600are more receptive to this think about the severity and again like for uh youtube's sake
01:05:32.300but like i went from 16 when i was a kid like that's what i got the schedule's crazy now my
01:05:38.640kids 72 something like that yeah oh absolutely yeah and i've obviously got the full indoctrination
01:05:44.980when i went through uni and then i've come full circle and realized the truth now that
01:05:49.400yeah there's no safe amount of heavy metal in the human body which is
01:05:53.280like all things in nature right yeah but um well i'm not sure how you guys are going for time but
01:06:00.100um i'd love to know what's the most interesting conversations you've had recently or rabbit
01:06:05.660holes you've been going down things that blow in your mind change your opinion yeah um for me
01:06:11.340um this is just coming to the top of the head so if anybody hears this and they're like what about
01:06:16.300me if forgive me but karen wilkinson we do so many interviews we do so many i mean we're doing
01:06:21.460like seven episodes a week karen wilkinson um is an author and she's a christian she works with uh
01:07:28.620She has children that she's been introduced to that felt like her own children but were uncanny and barely responsive and lacked any of the social elements that, you know, kids of their age would typically have.
01:07:43.420The other thing that she said was that in one particular instance, she saw the greys discarded in a heap on the ship.
01:07:55.200um they smelled foul like sulfur and and uncleaned you know unwashed and um and they seem to be
01:08:05.440suits almost in their in the way that they were discarded they had no life in them um0.99
01:08:12.020and it led to this speculation of hers that i think has some real legs that the grays are0.85
01:08:19.340automatons which is pretty consistent with people's experiences no uh reproductive organs
01:08:25.540no emotional range just sort of a hive mind worker bee um kind of a feel and in that way
01:08:33.600it's kind of allowed us to speculate you know in the in the greater hybridization program
01:08:39.840nephilim aliens what's the connection here demons are spirits then how are demons aliens
01:08:46.860How are they the same thing? I think the array that is demonic has been so diversified. There's so many different things now that are biological or technological or otherwise that are in that camp.
01:09:02.880And I think that there's a chance based off of her story that these things are automatons that can be inhabited temporarily by a spirit that have very limited capacity.
01:09:15.560They just do a thing or maybe they just get turned off and left in a heap.
01:09:18.640But, you know, her stories and her estimation of the alien phenomenon have really informed my worldview and helped me to put these things together in such a way that when Steven Spielberg comes along and says Christians are going to have a real hard time with their faith when they watch Disclosure Day or people that say when aliens reveal themselves, what are Christians going to do?
01:09:43.980I am so firm in my position. Not that I couldn't be introduced to information that wouldn't make me, you know, move things around and see how they fit. But the Christian worldview accommodates all of this in such a way that I look at these people who say, you're going to be shaken up. And I go, we talk about this every single day. And there's nothing that doesn't fit. There's nothing that gives me pause.
01:10:11.300I come from a line. My grandmother was an alien abductee victim, and she her life was cut pretty short because of the stresses of that and the abuse, the alcohol abuse that she went into.
01:10:23.040My bloodline is filled with iniquity. My aunt is schizophrenic in the worst possible way.
01:10:30.120All of the kids of my generation experience all of the things, the strangest things.
01:10:35.040and where i sit now because of conversations with people like karen like none of this
01:10:40.580is even remote i feel bad if if you're a christian and you're just going through the motions
01:10:45.220because yeah you will be shaken up you know if you if you don't yeah that's pretty crazy i haven't
01:10:51.200heard that that take before either and it kind of gets me thinking about when we hear stories
01:10:54.960of military bases where they're growing things in tanks whether it be grays or hybrids or
01:10:59.580celebrities um and then you see like the eyes change or something are they like possessed or
01:11:05.420or whatever it all kind of ties into that one thing what you just described yeah by the way i
01:11:09.440do think that a great deal of alien abductions are an extension of that same kind of mk ultra style
01:11:14.980um project because so often military personnel are present in in these people's stories uh medical
01:11:22.440personnel are present scientific personnel are present among this array of so i think there is
01:11:27.200There's a chance even that many of the things people encounter are just kind of nightmare chimeric creatures that are cooked up in a lab and meant to maybe create a screen memory for some nefarious intelligence agency operation that you actually went through.
01:11:44.940And you're meant to remember this automaton or, you know, so often people will describe cryptids, Dogman being one that's pretty famous right now, in and around military bases.
01:11:57.600That's where the encounter happened within a radius of only a few miles or even right up against the gate, let's say, of a military base.
01:12:06.480I've heard hundreds of these to the extent where I don't think people are lying anymore.
01:12:10.460You're just collecting data and patterns, and I think that, yeah, they're probably cooking up things, and I don't think it's any different than what used to happen.
01:12:17.960When you get like – there are people out there like Albarino that are fighting for disclosure, and their – I guess their reason is to expose a lot of these crimes because in a sense, they're just straight-up crimes.
01:12:33.220if you're going to be taking people from their homes and impregnating them against their will
01:12:37.120or performing experiments on them, wiping their brain, and the government's implicit and involved
01:12:42.280with this, it needs to be exposed. On the other side of that, when you do expose it, what happens?
01:12:49.160And we're living that right now. I don't know what's happening in Australia, but there's a
01:12:53.580slow drip here before the dam breaks. And who knows? Are you guys getting disclosure in the
01:12:58.380same way or is it is it kind of people watching the american government oh and in terms of like
01:13:04.000alien disclosures yeah yeah there's been a big push and um yeah there's a couple of aussie guys
01:13:10.480on like journalists on 60 minutes like the mainstream ones the last few years that have
01:13:14.900really been ramping it up and stuff and we've got a long history here with pine gap and our
01:13:19.640nuclear experiments and um but yeah australia is a very very weird place with heaps of conspiracy
01:13:25.680and the cult stuff as well i'm not sure if you guys have ever been down the australia rabbit
01:13:29.920hole much no i i honestly would love to have you on because i don't know anything uh about australia
01:13:34.740we'd love to have you on sometime to talk about it because you kind of alluded to that before we
01:13:38.560started the show too and um you know the the kind of correlation between america and and australia
01:13:46.120what i do know about australia is that it seems like most of it's not inhabited it seems like a
01:13:51.580lot of it is kind of like a desert or something seems like there's some some folks are drinking
01:13:55.300gasoline you know i think a lot i think a lot of what happened especially you know during the
01:14:01.480pandemic was like they were testing it on you guys oh you guys were almost ground zero for
01:14:06.520some of the most egregious government overstepping um we've been ground zero since 1778 which i'd
01:14:14.480love to get into with you guys you guys are the petri dish they're testing it on you
01:14:17.840that's interesting everything that's interesting and pine gap might be the most important military
01:14:24.280deepest military base in the world from people that i've interviewed that said i've been there
01:14:28.660and stuff so you're talking about deep underground military bases like that style
01:14:32.580have you heard of pine gap it's like in the middle of it's the middle of the outback of
01:14:37.500the desert and it's the the key of the five eyes alliance and people like victims that i've spoken
01:14:43.320to that have been to underground military bases said it's like it's that deep and it's connected
01:14:47.800to everywhere around the world and that's incredible we'll we'll talk after the show
01:14:52.520And get you booked with – you know, see what you're – I'd love to talk about that.
01:14:56.040Can I say what my favorite – not favorite episode, but like my favorite thing?
01:16:00.840Yeah, you'd imagine there would be better ways to feed them.
01:16:03.820There are non-canonical Jewish texts that talk about at the Tower of Babel.
01:16:12.400it elaborates this idea that when god confused the languages and scattered the nations in these
01:16:18.740jewish texts it even claims that uh some were turned into animals and the elephant is one of
01:16:24.740them if you look at the structural uh foot yeah it looks just like a human's doesn't look at all
01:16:31.980like what you would think given the it looks like a human's foot on a high heel and then standing on
01:16:36.360like a thing of blood which is not um the pig conspiracy as well yeah there's i think that is
01:16:42.500in there uh but the idea that that pigs were well it goes both ways pigs are either a byproduct of
01:16:49.360us or we're a byproduct a genetic uh you know deviation of pigs which is very fun that's why
01:16:56.200we're so compatible when it comes to you know i guess in some cases how we should eat them right
01:17:00.580is that what they say oh that's interesting too that we shouldn't eat them because they're riddled
01:17:03.560with parasites so are we so are we we all have uh parasite issues well guys i could chat to you
01:17:10.220for hours i love it anything um i'll put all the links to follow you guys on all your socials down
01:17:14.980below but any final thoughts from both of you um not not necessarily a thought but we do a live
01:17:21.480event i don't want to get out of here without mentioning this we do a live event i know most
01:17:25.220of your audience is likely in in australia but um we do a show called brohemian grove and um
01:17:30.960Last year we had Sam Tripoli and Owen Benjamin headlining the event, and we get everybody together in this kind of conspiracy community who can make it, and we just come down, and it's heavy on the comedy, but we talk about all sorts of things, and it's a fantastic time.
01:17:50.620Bohemian Grove is happening here in Florida on August 8th.
01:17:55.060So if anybody's interested, if you have anybody that's in the in the area that would like to be a part of it, we have so many people coming out.