Nephilim Death Squad - July 09, 2026


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00:00:00.000 i i quit in 2017 when i realized it's all corrupt to full-time youtube yeah and uh i did heaps of
00:00:08.560 party drugs always thought psychedelics were like don't it be not in control and then just the
00:00:14.420 universe talking to me and yeah now plenty of experiences with mushrooms and all that stuff
00:00:18.860 but yeah i had my uh my i guess what you would call your heroic dose uh with mushrooms and
00:00:24.920 it was manageable you know a lot of people before you do it you have all these stories that kind of
00:00:32.500 you have these presuppositions what it's going to be like i was like this is actually regular uh
00:00:37.920 not regular you know what i mean but it was like it was not the extreme trying to say he's built
00:00:41.700 different no no no it was i i had conversations with people who didn't know i was on mushrooms
00:00:46.300 so that that's pretty good so you did like nine years of school it's like because i know
00:00:51.620 pharmaceuticals uh being a pharmacist that's like intensive right uh five years but um yeah i was
00:00:58.240 always into like natural medicine and stuff as well but um yeah so quick backstory i've been a
00:01:03.760 conspiracy theorist for 25 years um it's an amazing time to be alive right yeah it is so
00:01:09.940 so much crazy shit about australia that even i'm like every day you find something new about
00:01:15.620 i might ask you guys about your thoughts on like resets and tartaria but america and australia and 0.94
00:01:21.120 the parallels 1776 1778 like it is just there's so much overlap that's interesting yeah yeah yeah
00:01:30.500 anyway but today um when we start recording i want to get into your story and just talk about
00:01:35.620 everything you've learned over the journey of your podcast and um get into all the juicy stuff
00:01:40.260 yeah for sure i'm excited man cool cool and how do you like to be introduced just david and top
00:01:46.520 lobster or i feel like yeah you could do that that's fine we both have animal names um because
00:01:52.600 there's something wrong with us but they were given to us uh yeah i guess top and raven yeah
00:01:58.620 it's a little i mean i've already been docked so it doesn't matter yeah yeah yeah oh you have yeah
00:02:05.680 yeah we cover a lot of pretty serious content on here and when someone hears top lobster from my
00:02:10.300 audience they might be like oh i can't take these guys seriously but no no you can call me uh well
00:02:14.940 i'll explain the name it's uh yeah cool it's got an interesting background i guess awesome okay
00:02:21.580 let's get into it three two one oh sorry hardware issue three two one hi guys thanks for tuning
00:02:33.020 into our episode of nuggets news super special guests and that is nephilim death squad so
00:02:38.780 welcome to the show david and top how are you guys doing doing well brother thanks for uh
00:02:43.740 inviting us yeah man thank you and sorry sorry about my surname uh but that's what we're gonna
00:02:48.960 go by so if anyone's offended whatever man we're gonna we're rolling with that how you it's nice
00:02:53.480 to meet you well for everyone that doesn't know you guys um maybe give us a bit of a background
00:02:59.240 to the nicknames how you got the show going and you've been crushing it like you got on sam
00:03:03.720 tinfoil hats mount crush more so well done on that yeah well thank you very much um i mean as far as
00:03:10.040 the the names um mine's pretty easy i actually go by the raven which is i thought good for
00:03:18.080 marketing purposes branding purposes but my last name is corvo which is just a derivative of corvo
00:03:25.580 which is italian in spain you know that kind of area and it just means raven means crow raven
00:03:31.320 you know uh corvid which is just a species of blackbird um but i said hey i might as well use
00:03:37.680 it because once you step into the sort of conspiracy arena um adding a little mystique uh
00:03:44.280 doesn't hurt yeah nice yeah i was uh previously before i was in the conspiracy arena i was in the
00:03:51.240 like political arena social commentary kind of kind of place and i was having a conversation
00:03:57.000 about uh some taboo topics ended up getting docs so i decided uh i'll go by i'll go by a nickname
00:04:05.020 and uh jordan peterson was big at the time this is years and years ago so the first chapter of
00:04:09.600 his book is talking about the lobsters and how they stand up straight because they have a similar
00:04:13.720 dopamine system as human beings and every time they win a fight they stand up uh straighter with
00:04:18.660 their shoulders back and they they'll create this posture they're the dominant lobster the top
00:04:24.100 lobster and um i was from brooklyn so it's like a top lobster kind of thing and that turned into uh 0.99
00:04:30.420 uh racist clothing brand then turned into a i don't want to click curse on here but a crap 0.88
00:04:36.660 posting twitter account that gets retweeted by elon musk and then that turns into like 0.98
00:04:42.440 into the comedy sphere working for uh lewis j gomez skank fest uh legion of skanks and then
00:04:48.780 that turns into uh christian conspiracy yeah inside of a coffee shop slash fabrication studio
00:04:56.080 it's been a bizarre journey uh that you couldn't have plotted out if you tried
00:05:01.360 that's awesome well i didn't know about lobster's dopamine system so i've already learned something
00:05:06.980 today and uh my nickname was nugget because i was short up until grade 12 didn't go through
00:05:11.940 puberty till later on in life so i was just short nuggety and it sort of stuck ever since that's
00:05:16.100 and now you've been how long have you been doing this because we were just talking about that we're
00:05:19.520 like nugget that's an interesting and now like you know you're we're searching the email i was
00:05:23.600 like what should i search to find the email again he says nugget i was like are you kidding me and
00:05:26.880 you're off and you're you're soaring now so you're locked into nugget but it's been a lifelong thing
00:05:30.540 then yeah it has since grade seven but um let's get into all the juicy stuff so guys what have
00:05:36.660 you learned over your journey on the podcast from the angle of like demons and what is this evil
00:05:43.520 force we're up against with some people want to talk about aliens i've had david ike on the show
00:05:47.600 with his reptilian theory you've got this hybrid stuff going off and obviously the mainstream are
00:05:53.080 really starting to push the ufo disclosure narrative so where are you guys sitting with
00:05:58.040 your thoughts on all that so um for me it was i was always kind of into the new age and the occult
00:06:05.260 and conspiracies um since i was really young and i had i guess you could say some uh generational
00:06:13.540 iniquity is how the bible would put it but there were seemed to be spirits attached to my my my
00:06:19.780 bloodline and so i grew up with these stories i grew up with these experiences and as soon as the
00:06:25.640 internet came about in any real meaningful way you know when like youtube kind of the golden years of
00:06:30.080 youtube like 2005 2006 2007 where it was the wild west and it was a great place to be i mean the
00:06:37.020 internet was just a great place to be at that time still is you know we're in fantastic times but
00:06:40.880 that was there was something different about it and so um i'm taking all my experiences and i'm
00:06:45.920 trying to find other people who are having the same ones and of course this leads to the concept
00:06:51.140 of demons which you know is not immediately something that i'm sold on right a lot of people
00:06:57.260 talk about uh shadow integration or the daemon or the idea that maybe the the universe is reflecting
00:07:05.760 things back to you or their aspects of the self is a multitude of explanations for these entities
00:07:11.940 that i was comfortable with for a very long time and um but nevertheless it leads to that sort of
00:07:19.740 uh occult practices demonology and what that springboards into is the fact that you can kind
00:07:26.120 of see the evidence for it all over the music industry all over hollywood right we're talking
00:07:30.380 about the symbolism people like isaac weissip have made an entire career out of occult symbolism in
00:07:36.020 pop culture he does a fantastic job of that and so it's rich and it's constantly giving
00:07:41.260 And that just becomes what is now I would call a lifelong journey.
00:07:46.760 But it's not until I have my own encounters as a husband and as a father where I realize these things need to stop.
00:07:57.960 They have to stop. And I am desperate and have no modality for stopping them.
00:08:02.940 And so not raised religious, never really, you know, of course, in conspiracy, the Bible comes up revelation more popularly because of all of the things that seem to be prophecy being fulfilled at any given moment.
00:08:16.940 But that's really about it. And I didn't have recourse.
00:08:21.460 I couldn't make this thing stop and my wife had seen it as well and I had kept it to myself
00:08:28.040 and then my son had seen it and I had still kept it to myself because as a father you don't want to
00:08:33.780 certainly don't want to plant seeds of fear in your child you want to be able to sleep at night
00:08:38.360 and not have those intrusive moments where they're knocking on the door because they can't sleep
00:08:41.640 so I'm really doing my best to keep this under wraps nevertheless they see it and it feels as
00:08:47.700 though, things are evolving so rapidly that I need to do something. I call out to Jesus Christ
00:08:55.000 for the first time in my life, and the entire phenomenon stops on a dime. And so I start to,
00:09:02.680 it's a long journey, a very long journey, like I said, came from the new age and occult and all
00:09:06.980 those things. But I start to look for other people who have had the experiences that I've had,
00:09:12.120 very similarly to how I was doing when I was a young man. And that's the beginning of getting
00:09:17.320 me all the way here. It keeps bearing fruit. It keeps making sense. And I have this tremendous
00:09:25.420 worldview of, you know, nearly 20 years of conspiracy that you would think the Christian
00:09:32.680 narrative would clash with. And certainly the Christian narrative that is the Western reductive
00:09:40.740 caricature of Christianity, of Christ, of the Bible that does clash, but not what I was learning,
00:09:48.340 not what I was learning. And it wasn't some big secret. It wasn't like there was some Gnostic
00:09:52.440 seeds at the bottom of the Bible that I had to, you just start to understand things in a way that
00:09:57.160 is closer to scripture than what the average person is experiencing. And it all begins to
00:10:04.000 make sense so um to cap that this show is is for me my journey in testing this thing testing this
00:10:12.860 metal over and over again publicly and we're 650 episodes probably right now and uh and it keeps
00:10:20.360 bearing fruit and it keeps getting stronger and making more and more sense and so i'm continuing
00:10:26.120 down this path yeah i've got a heap of thoughts on that but um uh lobster any thoughts on the
00:10:35.660 demon alien what you think is at the top of the evil chain before i sort of expand on the bible
00:10:39.840 and that um yeah i got some thoughts but i'm kind of curious of i don't want you to lose your uh
00:10:45.820 your question there because like david just gave you 15 i know i gave you that's a i got a real
00:10:49.840 problem if you talk about aliens too much aliens are in the news every day now so it's like we're
00:10:54.280 not going to forget about it's honestly it's it's kind of exhausting to a degree yeah well cool
00:10:58.620 yeah let's keep with the flow then so i think i agree with you after being in this field for so
00:11:02.860 long at the bottom of the rabbit hole it's like this this satanism and all these secret societies
00:11:07.740 that are influencing running the world and so we're already starting to see people go well if
00:11:12.160 this level of evil exists out there towards what they're doing to humanity and children
00:11:15.880 then the opposite must be true and why is there such this huge attack on christianity and all
00:11:22.760 these things so i i think this there's very something to that that more and more people
00:11:27.180 are realizing it's not that oh you have to go to church and the corruption in like the catholic
00:11:31.420 church or whatever it's oh well which sections of the bible have they rewritten and why it must
00:11:35.980 have been important to cover it up and so when i get what you're saying because when someone says
00:11:40.400 i'm a christian well that can mean 30 000 different denominations or spins and crazy new modern
00:11:46.360 churches and all this stuff so i agree with you that yeah deep down i think the spiritual war
00:11:52.560 we're in is really on like morality and christianity brings back a lot of that morality and
00:11:57.600 just good principles to people and that's what satanism is trying to destroy right that's kind
00:12:02.420 of how i view it but what what are your guys thoughts on on all of that um so as far as like
00:12:07.260 the christianity thing we we come at this from a a slightly different standpoint and it's not like
00:12:12.720 we're not your orthodox christians and not not meaning like the orthodox church but like the
00:12:17.360 regular Christian that you'll meet and encounter, oftentimes when Christians that are in the church 0.96
00:12:24.960 meet us, they're off put. And we've already been kind of like shunned. And because listen,
00:12:32.080 in reality, David was a, you were a welder and a metal fabricator. I used to work on the tracks
00:12:38.640 and I used to drive an 18 wheeler for a living. So like working on the railroad, you know,
00:12:43.720 we're just blue collar dudes. So I'm going to talk how I'm going to talk and I'm going to say
00:12:48.900 what I'm going to say. And usually when I say stuff, I just say exactly what I mean. And people
00:12:54.220 don't like that. They want to, you know, I guess be fluffed a little bit and I'm not here to
00:12:59.220 cradle you. So, uh, we, we come at it from a slightly different perspective, but like upon
00:13:07.500 further review of the Bible itself and like rereading this, I'm like, Oh no, no. Like
00:13:12.560 And all this fluffed up worldview that we're generally presented as like what Christians are and how they're supposed to act is not how people acted throughout the Bible. 0.62
00:13:23.500 So coming to terms with that has been a little bit easier.
00:13:26.500 Obviously, cleaning up a lot of the things that I still need to do have been important.
00:13:31.420 But understanding that like, OK, no, no, no, you're being genuine, you're being yourself, you're searching for these answers and let everything else fall by the side and fall where it may after that.
00:13:43.320 So that's that's like been our journey in a way.
00:13:46.860 Yeah.
00:13:47.280 And we also have a proclivity to look into like this weird, like these dark places that other people don't really want to.
00:13:55.640 I mean, I guess I would say Christian wouldn't look at.
00:13:57.840 Exactly.
00:13:58.320 The common Christian wouldn't look at it.
00:14:00.300 And the problem is whether you're into the New Age or you're into the occult or any of these things, for very many people, it's because they had an experience.
00:14:11.980 And even though I believe that the Bible has the answers and Jesus Christ is the truth, the modern Christian is not armed for the reality of the spiritual warfare that we're engaged in.
00:14:22.900 So someone will have an experience and they might end up going to Wiccan or they might end up going towards the occult because there are answers that are seemingly readily available. 0.62
00:14:34.900 And the community of Christianity, the people that are just going to the church on Sundays and going through the motions, they're so detached for the most part from anything like that.
00:14:44.480 And that was very much my experience is you have something strange and it drives you to seek answers. 0.57
00:14:50.120 and when you look over to you know modern christians you go there's no way and in very
00:14:57.340 many ways you would be correct there's no way they would have these answers um to be perfectly
00:15:02.260 honest the element that keyed in and changed the whole worldview for me was the concept of
00:15:09.840 the nephilim and i don't obviously that's the show's namesake we didn't really talk about it
00:15:15.240 that much anymore because it's you know we beat it to death in the first hundred episodes or
00:15:19.520 whatever it was um but this idea that there's extra canonical text right some have been removed
00:15:25.600 people for the most part seem to understand that the uh in ethiopia their bible still contains
00:15:32.140 you know the book of enoch and enoch is a strange one because the first one seems to be uh just an
00:15:39.080 elaboration on elements of the bible and then two and three depart in a really crazy way and so you
00:15:46.540 have to kind of treat these things as um interesting but don't they're not salvation
00:15:52.620 issues so don't hang your faith on them uh you know enoch three goes on to say that enoch
00:15:57.820 became the angel uh metatron i believe which is and the giants were like uh 400 feet tall and
00:16:04.020 which maybe you know people go on and on they say that pink himalayan salt is actually the
00:16:08.600 petrified remains of giants and and it's a lot of fun i've stopped eating pink the devil's tree
00:16:14.800 The Devil's Tree is a crazy one, you know, so there's a lot of stuff that point to not just megalithic structures, but megalithic beings potentially, and I'm a big fan of it.
00:16:25.380 I don't discard it, but it's something that I don't hang my faith on.
00:16:28.220 But this idea in Enoch that the disembodied spirits of these Nephilim when, you know, most of them died in the flood, their spirits, they don't ascend.
00:16:37.600 And we're going to get into this idea, by the way. 0.56
00:16:39.420 Let's explain what a Nephilim is a product of a fallen angel and a human woman.
00:16:44.920 So biblically, Genesis 6 is saying that the fallen angels saw the human woman. 0.76
00:16:50.220 They saw that they were good, and they procreated with them, and they begot the Nephilim.
00:16:54.440 Which is not actually something that the church is unified on.
00:16:58.200 A lot of people will give pushback, and they'll say, it's not the sons of God, it's the sons of Seth.
00:17:02.960 And the translation, I have like a little, this is my Benihana sign, but it says Benihana Elohim right here.
00:17:08.060 That means sons of God. That's the Hebrew translation, and it comes up in Genesis 6, and I believe it's referring to the sons of God being angels, these Elohim angelic beings.
00:17:19.260 Other people will say, no, no, they're the sons of a man named Seth, who's a descendant of Adam.
00:17:23.820 But elsewhere throughout the Bible, the Benaha Elohim is referred specifically as these heavenly entities that are in the presence of God. 0.99
00:17:32.380 if you read the book of Job, when Job is going to be tempted, God is chilling with the B'nei
00:17:38.460 Elohim and Satan approaches. He walks up and he says, yo, can I tempt this guy? And then the story 0.99
00:17:43.180 goes on. So God's not hanging out with human men and delegating and talking about what he's going
00:17:49.300 to do next. He's hanging out with the angels. And in fact, I think the Dead Sea Scrolls do a good
00:17:55.280 job because that translation is specifically the sons of God. And so that's the oldest one that we
00:18:01.420 have right now and that's also where you get the book of enoch which is fascinating because in the
00:18:05.820 beginning of it it talks about how this is for the fig tree generation and that is prophecy from
00:18:12.740 revelation um you know end of times prophecy so this idea that uh you know a series of scrolls
00:18:19.220 were discovered i think it was like 47 or 48 very among other things yeah very interesting time the
00:18:25.460 cia uh roswell comes about shortly after operation paperclip it's like everything just kicks off
00:18:31.200 institution of the state of israel yeah i've read i've read a lot about that i watched a
00:18:35.920 documentary how they might have even been forged the dead sea scrolls and stuff but there's a i
00:18:39.920 mean it is suspicious it's a suspicious time yeah but one thing i do i'm really on board with you
00:18:45.920 like the science background is the offspring being giants and we see like a liger with a lion and a
00:18:51.580 tiger right and so i really like this theory that if we were genetically tweaked or a hybrid or
00:18:57.620 whatever and then we have the same number of chromosomes and then humans second and third
00:19:01.380 chromosome has been fused like there's all this kind of scientific evidence to back up this
00:19:06.240 biblical myth but i still kind of wonder like what is a fallen angel and isn't it isn't in
00:19:11.040 physical form and are they actually having sex or is this referring to like genetic or scientific
00:19:16.640 impregnation do you know i mean like any thoughts on all that that i say yes yes and yeah yes and
00:19:22.380 that's see now you just opened up an entire rabbit hole but you want to can i just tell
00:19:26.380 him about the science part of it because i think he'd like this part um so uh in in the bible there
00:19:31.780 is a nimrod and nimrod's a mighty hunter and people speculate that nimrod was a giant he was
00:19:39.460 a huge dude and they would call him nephilim but that's not the correct term he the correct term
00:19:44.700 is uh gibberim and it says specifically he became gibberim now in uh in the book of enoch i think
00:19:52.980 it's like Enoch 1 7 or no no sorry Enoch 7 chapter 7 it talks about when uh when the watchers
00:20:01.420 were taking the wives of men what they taught these human women as they like so there was a
00:20:07.180 relationship meaning like they took them as wives meaning there's like a a covenant there so whether
00:20:13.580 we're talking about sex uh I don't maybe but there's like a dowry there's a dowry there's an
00:20:18.920 exchange of uh technology or knowledge to the fathers of those daughters in order to get them
00:20:25.400 so there's a trade-off which by the way is consistent through most mythologies right there
00:20:30.200 is like this god that imparts various technologies or teachings whether it's agriculture or
00:20:36.560 metallurgy or this thing like you know like what what the hell is this or if it's recovering the
00:20:41.660 crashed craft of roswell and getting new technology there is seemingly an exchange uh they call that
00:20:47.580 sometimes they call it a gifting ground oh it's interesting right like the the crashed uh the
00:20:52.180 crashed ufo sites people will go there and they're called like gifting grounds and you can go and
00:20:56.620 they pick up like weird medals and stuff but uh anyway they teach the woman a number of things
00:21:02.300 like makeup they teach the men you know uh metallurgy and they mentioned that they teach
00:21:07.700 them the cutting of roots and we get this from uh sean from kingdom and context who's who's great
00:21:12.840 he's fantastic yeah so the cutting of roots is an interesting one because now we're dabbling
00:21:17.560 in in pharmakia like that's that's your lane so one of the chemicals in miracle grow is gibberellin 0.81
00:21:26.300 and gibberellin actually like it retards this uh it retards a hormone in the plant so that way it 0.73
00:21:34.600 can have indeterminate growth and nimrod became gibbereen so it it leads you to think i was like 0.76
00:21:43.560 okay so they taught them everything about cutting of roots was there some sort of genetic manipulation
00:21:47.980 where they were manipulating something in human beings to let them continue to grow and then you
00:21:55.660 get these giants like that yeah it results in stem and shoot elongation yeah and i do believe that it
00:22:03.240 is if you were to extract it from anywhere it would be the root system of a plant uh gibberellin
00:22:08.260 is commonly used right now in miracle growth.
00:22:13.080 So, I mean, there's these things that are little hints, it feels like.
00:22:19.000 And once again, this is not something that, like, you're to hang your faith
00:22:22.600 or it's not a salvation issue, it's none of these things.
00:22:25.020 But it feels like, I mean, that's incredibly rich, this idea.
00:22:29.940 And it's in a text that I don't want to disparage, you know,
00:22:36.080 The church or the people that are going through it, but it's no secret there are folks that are moving through that system like zombies.
00:22:41.260 They show up on Sunday, and they go through the motions, and they leave it there, and they go back to their lives for the remaining six days.
00:22:49.400 And then, of course, all of the corruption that exists in any of the church systems because we are men and we're fallible, so anything that we create is going to have rot in it because we're flawed.
00:22:59.260 but this thing it's been reduced and it's been made a mockery of um especially here in the west
00:23:07.280 it's probably the most important part because the bible is describing a battle it's describing a
00:23:12.480 battle between the seed of man and the seed of something else seed of satan the seed of this
00:23:17.980 that's the first prophecy in genesis is that the seed of the woman will crush the head of the
00:23:23.660 serpent and then that goes on and on and and you know all of the old testament points that's one
00:23:28.700 of the things that gets me is there is this big Gnosticism movement towards the idea of
00:23:34.500 the Demiurge, and Jesus Christ becomes debased in that way because now he's open to interpretation.
00:23:41.720 The Bible is very clear.
00:23:43.260 Who do you say Christ is?
00:23:44.580 And Christ is the son of the living God who came and died for our sins, and God resurrected
00:23:49.420 him from the dead, and he ascended.
00:23:51.360 All of these things, that's who this character is, this guy is.
00:23:54.400 Jesus Christ is still prevalent in a lot of other teachings, right?
00:23:58.940 If you go to the alien thing, he is Pleiadian.
00:24:02.620 If you go to the Gnostics or the New Agers, he is an ascended master who's reached a state
00:24:08.760 of enlightenment that you too can reach.
00:24:10.680 And it's like, there is... 0.92
00:24:12.740 Similar within Islam. 0.96
00:24:14.460 Yes, yes, where he's just a prophet. 0.96
00:24:16.120 Yeah, he's there, but he's just a prophet.
00:24:17.600 And even in the Bible, it warns in John that, you know, if any, even an angel should come
00:24:22.980 to you and preach any other gospel that is not this, then you're being deceived, meaning like,
00:24:26.680 yeah, an angel can come and they will tweak it because Christ is such a central figure and such
00:24:31.140 an important thing. Here we are 2000 years later, haven't shaken him off. Now it's like he's getting
00:24:36.980 co-opted and he's getting changed ever so slightly. But if you read the Old Testament, it's a direct
00:24:43.440 through line. This God of the Old Testament that's supposed to be the demiurge that's imprisoning us
00:24:47.380 here, is constantly pointing over like 300 times in all this different prophecy to Jesus Christ.
00:24:54.860 It's incredibly consistent. I mean, like I said, the very first prophecy in Genesis is pointing
00:25:00.520 to the coming of Christ. You can't get even to the next book in Exodus without having shadows
00:25:06.760 of Christ, the archetype of what's going to come all over Exodus, all over Genesis. It's happening
00:25:12.260 constantly um but i think we just get into what i found alex is it's almost like it's almost
00:25:18.900 disappointing it's like um wow in some ways this is actually very simple and i never thought that
00:25:26.420 dude well i never thought that what's like super disappointing is that like you might say all right
00:25:31.040 the nephilim are interesting but how does it pertain to right now well i don't know matt
00:25:35.060 gates is saying that he's spoken to some you know government suits or uh you know army dudes that
00:25:41.200 are they're coming in their rank and file and they're telling him yeah there's a breeding
00:25:44.440 program happening and i'm telling you that you know we're reading an old book and it says yeah
00:25:50.160 there's a breeding program happening yeah and i don't know exactly how it's happening but we've
00:25:55.120 spoken to a number of different people as a matter of fact shout out to nathaniel gillis who was just
00:25:59.420 on danny jones um yeah i've had him on too yeah yeah nathaniel's fantastic nathaniel will tell
00:26:04.920 you about the phenomenon and i mean this is like physical spiritual however you want to however you
00:26:10.600 want to imagine it but one of the techniques that they'd use is like maybe even like necromancy or
00:26:15.240 this like spiritual implantation impregnation into the woman so if you're asking did these
00:26:21.240 guys bone down these girls i don't know man maybe it's maybe but it seems like there's a lot of ways
00:26:27.000 to skin this cat yeah the government does this with mk ultra techniques uh you use sra satanic
00:26:32.240 ritual abuse to do the same thing the telepathy tapes for instance seem like they're getting at
00:26:37.040 the same thing yeah that's actually one of our i think that's probably what landed us on mount
00:26:41.700 crushmore was we did a breakdown of the telepathy tapes and how actually nefarious it act it is
00:26:47.420 because what it what it amounts to i think is a free range version of the mk ultra program
00:26:52.400 where in order to induce a state of dissociation right association i always go back and forth i
00:26:58.620 found it both ways disassociation and dissociation he's a doctor he probably which one is it do you
00:27:02.320 now i think it can be both disassociate or desociate yeah okay well everybody knows what
00:27:11.120 we mean um so in order to create that state because we're used to mk ultra with it but by
00:27:18.040 the way as we sit here today the first hearing since 1977 just took place on mk ultra led by
00:27:23.700 anna paulina luna a very sketchy woman uh in my estimation but here we are it's really strange
00:27:30.280 because you said earlier at the top of the show, or maybe it was off air,
00:27:34.340 of like what an incredible time it is to be doing this.
00:27:37.480 And it's like it's constant, man.
00:27:39.300 Every day it's just a never-ending stream of alien disclosure and MKUltra disclosure.
00:27:44.280 Yeah, that's right.
00:27:45.020 He's like, do you want to talk about that?
00:27:46.300 I'm like, not really.
00:27:47.260 We talk about everything, dude.
00:27:48.460 Yeah, we talk about it every day, like seven episodes a week.
00:27:52.560 But we're used to the idea of clockwork orange,
00:27:57.220 where you strap them in a chair and you peel their eyelids open and you subject them to traumatizing, you know, images and you dose them with psychedelics and everything is to to withdraw away from this stimuli.
00:28:09.620 Right. And gain access. I think what I've perceived is gain access illegally to these spiritual realms.
00:28:15.900 And this is coming from somebody who's done a fair bit of psychedelics. I think I understand a little bit more now.
00:28:21.200 And now that it's viable, it works.
00:28:24.860 It yields a bunch of things, right?
00:28:26.800 Programmable personalities that emerge, states of dissociation or disassociation that allow the individual to remote view or astral project or this and that.
00:28:34.860 There's so many fruits, you could say fruits, that have been bore from this kind of technology.
00:28:43.540 You could call it a technology, a teaching.
00:28:45.760 Now it's in the free range stage.
00:28:47.440 So we are actively dosing ourselves. We are actively traumatizing ourselves on a daily basis with these little black scrying boxes that we have scrying mirrors. And I think that I'm going to use people have to read between the lines. I don't want to get you dinged for for the language here.
00:29:05.120 um but there is a medical intervention that results in autism and things of that nature
00:29:12.100 and that is the ultimate disassociation these individuals cannot even engage with their
00:29:18.000 physical bodies yeah this this show um as it was like really picking up one of my friends was like
00:29:23.880 you've got to watch it this is a it's crazy it's right up your lane and he he was right but like
00:29:29.760 for the wrong angles he just thought that we'd find it interesting but immediately these kids
00:29:35.920 start talking about like the the state of disassociation that they're they're having
00:29:41.200 every day and then they talk about uh things like spelling and they and i think it's called like
00:29:46.780 assisted uh i forget exactly the term but like the mother or caretaker will put like an arm
00:29:52.440 or hand and even a finger on the kid just so that they can understand where their body is
00:29:58.200 in uh in comparison to where their spirit is yeah it's like the physical sensation like it's it's
00:30:04.440 like an anchor point right like here's your it's almost what they're doing is like here's your body
00:30:07.860 kiddo yeah and they're like from what from what they're explaining these children that are sentient
00:30:13.300 that are in their body but don't have control of it are almost like pulled away from it have you
00:30:18.420 ever seen venom um no the spider-man uh dr strange wax him and the little spirit comes out that's
00:30:25.900 like sometimes i think of that yeah yeah yeah i was i was thinking about the spider-man 3 or
00:30:30.220 whatever where he hits the the poles and the frequency makes the venom come off of oh yeah
00:30:34.320 yeah it's it feels like that but yeah very much like uh out an out-of-body experience is what
00:30:39.820 these kids are having so in the physical they're throwing tantrums they're wearing diapers they're
00:30:45.440 pooping but mentally they're actually there and this this uh podcast series goes through
00:30:52.020 this idea of these kids having telepathy and being able to communicate with their parents
00:30:57.840 and it's actually very interesting but you know what i watched it um i don't know you guys would
00:31:04.580 i had a european doctor on who's reversing autism you guys should chat to him reversing autism
00:31:10.040 that sounds like a curse that's incredible so he was getting because again i'm very much into
00:31:16.580 what you've just described there and i watched the telepathy tapes and but he was getting into
00:31:21.620 like pulling all the heavy metals out of the brain yeah and he also had that had a theory that these
00:31:26.420 people could be stuck in a trip and what he found was that they had high levels of serotonin and dmt
00:31:31.780 that their body couldn't break down and so once you give the enzymes to break that down some of
00:31:36.420 these people were adults that were non-verbal that are now normal functioning oh my god that's
00:31:41.860 yeah i'll tell you guys up with um dr christian bogner if you want but yeah it's kind of another
00:31:47.140 good segue into do you view things now like meditation or breath work or psychedelics as
00:31:54.800 like bad and evil because they're not in the bible or you know some people say well maybe
00:31:58.760 jesus did eat mushrooms or like where are you at with this other stuff that some maybe traditional
00:32:03.880 christians would say oh that's that's woo that's witchcraft you can't have plant medicines or
00:32:08.160 anything like that so for me let's start with meditation um go ahead meditation is an interesting
00:32:13.640 one uh david meditated but in the talking about in the bible yeah yeah biblically not not him
00:32:20.580 he doesn't he doesn't shut up can't quiet my mind david meditated but when he did he said
00:32:26.500 a lot it's like think on think on that which means that he still has a an aim and i think that's you
00:32:32.940 know when you're talking about aim we're talking about sin and when you're not aimed at a thing
00:32:37.080 you're sinning so specifically for me i'm sinning if i'm not aimed at god now if i meditate and they
00:32:42.960 say, clear your mind, clear your body, clear your soul so that you're an empty vessel. Even Bob
00:32:48.500 Lazar touches on this on the Joe Rogan experience where he goes, yeah, they just see us as containers.
00:32:53.920 Yeah, which I would agree with. And he's correct. Like people are containers where we're meant to
00:32:58.820 be filled up and poured out. Like we're just instruments of worship, whether it be to God
00:33:03.900 or whether it be to, who knows, this sign over here, whatever it is, you worship something.
00:33:08.840 yeah um so when we're meditating i would just be like be careful emptying yourself out and not being
00:33:16.640 aware what is filling that because you're going to be filled with something yeah so whatever you
00:33:21.680 call in or whatever is around if you're if i believe in localities as well like that that
00:33:28.100 leads into the psychedelic uh issue but uh yeah if you're emptying yourself out i would be aware
00:33:34.880 what you invite to fill you, I would ask God or the Holy Spirit to fill me rather than another
00:33:41.540 entity or idea or presence, because that's the realm we live in, I believe. I think we live like
00:33:49.920 the upside down, you know, stranger things kind of nails it. There's something happening on the
00:33:54.620 under tapestry of this carpet that can interact with us in a spiritual way and where we don't
00:34:00.380 perceive it yeah unless you take drugs dmt psychedelics where you can peel back that veil
00:34:05.820 but now we're talking about issues of legality now you stepping into a realm that you don't
00:34:11.000 belong in and know nothing about and you're just going to go ahead and interact with you're swimming
00:34:15.440 with sharks yeah well that's and people will accuse christians of being like fear-based and
00:34:20.860 and it's like i i just understand it now as if you want to use a new age principle um this idea
00:34:28.640 of like the fractal nature of reality or even like as above so below like we have laws and systems
00:34:35.440 and inhabitants in this physical realm there are laws and systems and inhabitants in that spiritual
00:34:41.020 realm and many of them are if you don't want to use the term demon because people get all wrapped
00:34:47.160 up in that um you could say speak more to their nature which is parasitic these things are
00:34:53.580 parasitic they will influence and whisper to you things that will put you in a state of depression
00:35:00.720 anxiety fear anger and they will feed off that everybody's familiar with the concept of like
00:35:05.380 as robert monroe puts it um so that's a huge issue right there and i think that at any given moment
00:35:15.020 we're giving consent legal consent access to ourselves to things that we can't even perceive
00:35:22.280 i think when top says we're swimming with sharks in very many ways that's that's true um we cannot
00:35:28.540 perceive it we're in the ocean we're treading water and around us is all manner of life uh but
00:35:35.320 some of these things don't have your best interest so so as far as these meditative processes and
00:35:39.960 everything i don't think it's inherently um bad there seems to be a function that people can
00:35:45.940 access these realms but fasting like fasting is is one that will tune you into the the
00:35:51.900 supernatural realm, the spiritual realm, much more so than in a different state. We have a guest that
00:35:56.600 comes on the show, Seth Kicklighter. He wrote a book. It's a lengthy one. I don't think we have
00:36:01.900 it in here, so you have to forgive me for not remembering the title of it. But a lot of it is
00:36:06.100 based off of... Oh, spirit realm shenanigans.
00:36:07.920 Spirit realm shenanigans. And a lot of it is based off of analyzing the writings of Robert Monroe
00:36:14.020 and coming to a conclusion that these entities that are outside of our physical realm
00:36:21.200 can manufacture entire experiences for us.
00:36:25.400 So they do this regularly, can do this regularly in the dream state,
00:36:29.640 but in psychedelic induced states or even remote viewing or astral projection,
00:36:37.200 many of these experiences, real, you're going through something,
00:36:41.680 you're experiencing something, you're perceiving something,
00:36:43.480 But almost like people think that this is a simulation, right?
00:36:47.980 Simulation theory.
00:36:49.180 In that way, you can superimpose that idea over your experiences in those realms in that there's a bandwidth thing.
00:36:57.560 There's a – they're rendering and generating potentially.
00:37:01.980 And he makes a really, really good case for this.
00:37:04.440 And you're actually feeding it.
00:37:06.540 The story you told at the top where you were saying that your wife is having this experience and your kid is now seeing this thing.
00:37:12.340 I was feeding it.
00:37:13.180 He was feeding. He was going through like a time in his life where he's experiencing a lot of rage,
00:37:18.240 rage, bottling stuff down. And it was it got to the point where something actually manifested.
00:37:24.140 And he was like, yo, this thing was rage embodied. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And that was the impression,
00:37:28.800 which I think counts for a lot when you have these experiences, the impression that you get
00:37:31.920 this thing was, you know, rage incarnate and it wasn't too pumped to see him. So when my wife
00:37:39.180 described the same thing and then my son described the same thing uh this was you know it was a
00:37:44.440 problem you fed you in in a sense like you're feeding a thing to a point where it has the
00:37:49.480 power to manifest yeah in whether i don't like it's a good yeah this is a good segue into
00:37:54.580 parasitism maturity touched on right and like we spoke about morality and satanist running the
00:38:00.540 world one thing that i try and frame it and honestly if you guys kind of agree with all this
00:38:05.020 is these spirits or entities, whatever we want to call them,
00:38:09.520 if someone maybe has an affinity for alcohol,
00:38:11.960 maybe it's an alcoholic spirit or sex or whatever it is.
00:38:14.780 So the more that they can degrade society with like filth
00:38:18.500 and get everyone doing this,
00:38:20.120 it's the low-level Satanism that the public and people say,
00:38:23.760 oh, they're an NPC or whatever.
00:38:24.960 But I don't believe that people don't have souls.
00:38:27.580 I tend to think that we're all victims of programming
00:38:29.840 and not knowing the truth, right?
00:38:31.800 But do you guys, where are you at with the whole parasitism?
00:38:34.560 like fading different addictions and all the way through to possession i mean i think that
00:38:39.000 even even the idea of parasites it comes up so often in demonic encounters you want to tell
00:38:45.260 him the story about marzynski because that's it that's an interesting dude yeah have you ever
00:38:48.720 talked to jerry marzynski no okay you you should you'd love him so uh dr jerry marzynski is a
00:38:57.100 clinical psychologist he's retired now i believe um an author and he worked specifically with
00:39:02.360 schizophrenic patients for like 35 years and he worked with them in a hospital setting until that
00:39:06.460 hospital got shut down and then he moved over to a prison setting now in the hospital setting
00:39:10.860 there's all these rules and regulations you cannot feed into their delusions stick to the book
00:39:14.980 because you know malpractice all these different things um but in the prison setting they kind of
00:39:20.000 don't care uh eventually marzynski comes to the conclusion that these things that the industry is
00:39:26.080 labeling auditory and visual hallucinations do not behave like hallucinations hallucinations
00:39:31.080 would be random to a great extent of course they would be uh flavored by the individual's
00:39:36.480 experiences and belief systems but he discerned i believe up to 23 reliable patterns that these
00:39:42.760 things adhere to which is not behave like a hallucination would and um so he started to
00:39:48.680 suspect that these things were external to the individual and not just a you know a result of
00:39:53.280 some sort of you know chemical imbalance in the brain or what have you and he began to advise
00:39:59.500 these patients that they treat them as if they're external, which is phenomenal because the industry
00:40:03.360 takes away that agency, right? It says there's something wrong with you. The only way you're
00:40:06.520 going to fix this is by the pills that don't have a great track record at all. Well, it's kind of
00:40:10.360 what you were talking about, this idea of the NPC. When we're talking about pills, we're dealing
00:40:15.040 with a society of people that have this blanketed serotonin level. Yeah, they're muted. Yeah,
00:40:22.620 everybody's muted. And even if you're not on pills, like, I don't know, I read some studies
00:40:26.360 where it's like people that take pills, they piss in the water, the drinking water comes back into
00:40:30.540 the tap. And like, to some level, we're all participated in this muted, like ringing of
00:40:36.900 what is what should be society. Yeah, yeah. And burnt out of dopamine circuits, and people can't
00:40:42.500 concentrate or think critically, even if they're not on any medication, right? Yeah, yeah. So,
00:40:47.320 you know, the patients start having success in dealing with these things as if they're external.
00:40:53.520 And some of them are willing to have conversations with them.
00:40:56.920 One of the things that he discovers is that the drug use, so almost every schizophrenic
00:41:01.740 individual that you're going to come in contact with has a history of childhood trauma, which
00:41:07.480 I think is, it swings the door open and it allows this thing that I described as generational
00:41:13.680 iniquity to take place.
00:41:14.700 This thing has legal rights over your bloodline because of this great sin.
00:41:19.900 Now, in the Bible, it says, Jesus Christ has paid the debt.
00:41:22.620 the blood of jesus christ has paid that debt because this is all legal it's all a legal
00:41:26.440 exchange it's it's funny right there's like science articles now saying like oh it seems
00:41:30.520 that mothers can pass down you know certain traits for like seven generations from trauma
00:41:35.260 from trauma yeah says that in the bible but you know congrats on figuring out i guess which is
00:41:40.040 so often the case um but this this debt has already been paid a lot of people aren't aware
00:41:45.880 of that they don't understand that legal aspect right we're talking about the spiritual realm
00:41:51.360 There is a lot of legality going on here and sacrifices, which we see this occult side doing all the time.
00:41:58.960 The purer the sacrifice, the more effective it is at transmuting reality.
00:42:04.080 This the purest one has happened already.
00:42:06.800 And the debt has been paid to wipe the slate clean for any of these iniquities or, you know, accesses that have been given over to the spiritual realm over us. 0.59
00:42:16.180 Even that idea, sorry to interrupt, is very interesting because from a Christian standpoint, people wouldn't want to even discuss the death of Jesus Christ as this – they wouldn't want to discuss the similarities of that sort of sacrifice to what we'd see like maybe at an Epstein Island.
00:42:34.700 In Satanism, yeah.
00:42:35.780 They don't have a stranglehold on those operations.
00:42:38.740 They cannot create anything.
00:42:40.080 They only invert God's laws and his own building blocks to this realm.
00:42:45.140 It seems like that's how it works.
00:42:46.680 That's how it works.
00:42:47.540 And the best one already happened.
00:42:49.920 And the thing that it was trying to buy was us.
00:42:53.560 Everybody's sacrificing things.
00:42:55.160 These Satanists are sacrificing things.
00:42:56.580 These occultists are sacrificing things to buy something.
00:42:58.760 What's the rapper that had a closet full of dead chickens? 0.77
00:43:00.740 Oh, I forget what her name was. 1.00
00:43:02.500 But yeah, it's some female rapper or R&B artist who's showing off her chicken killing closet. 0.59
00:43:09.980 It's actually fully out on display now.
00:43:12.400 So many people in the hip-hop industry in particular are showing you that they participate in Santa Maria or Santa Muerte, and they're sacrificing animals to this deity for wealth and that deity for romantic success.
00:43:25.920 And they're doing it like it's MTV Cribs.
00:43:28.240 Like they're just showing you on the internet.
00:43:29.620 It's crazy as hell.
00:43:31.140 I actually saw that clip.
00:43:32.720 If it's the same one that you just described, I saw that last night.
00:43:35.880 In a random documentary I was watching, and she had blood and all that in the corner of her bathroom and said she hadn't planned it in years or something.
00:43:41.900 But there's a crazy synchronicity for you guys.
00:43:44.960 Yeah, that's how it goes, man.
00:43:46.800 So these people are doing that to do what?
00:43:48.680 To buy things.
00:43:50.080 This is a currency.
00:43:51.460 This sacrifice is a currency.
00:43:53.200 The purer the sacrifice, the virgin sacrifice, the unblemished lamb sacrifice, whatever it is, the purer it is, the more that it buys.
00:44:04.300 People don't want to see that.
00:44:05.420 Yeah, you're right, Top.
00:44:06.140 The average Christian doesn't want to say.
00:44:08.080 It's uncomfortable. 0.89
00:44:08.880 Because that's effectively what happened.
00:44:10.860 But what was bought was us so that we could have salvation so we don't perish.
00:44:17.220 So, anywho, anyway, so going back to this Marzinski story, you know, they say a number of things to him.
00:44:27.560 And like I said, the drug usage beyond the childhood trauma, the drug usage was another one.
00:44:34.100 He said certain drugs kick that spiritual door open.
00:44:37.920 Some put a doorstopper in.
00:44:39.860 One in particular is methamphetamine, said it was so hard to close that door after stopping the usage of methamphetamine.
00:44:48.460 And that door being, I think, the way that Marzinski described it, we all have this.
00:44:54.080 We all have these intrusive thoughts that feel uncharacteristic of our own nature or our own thinking processes. 0.95
00:45:01.180 You see an old lady, you're like, I wonder if I should punch her. 1.00
00:45:03.360 I wonder if I should punch her and push her down the stairs. 1.00
00:45:05.140 And you don't do it, but you have other ideas too, right? 0.91
00:45:08.000 Like sometimes ideas pass across your awareness and you almost interact with them, right?
00:45:14.420 So there is the thinker, the thing that analyzes the ideas, but then there is the idea that
00:45:18.200 almost feels alive, like it landed in your lap, like you didn't think about it.
00:45:21.380 The muse.
00:45:22.020 The muse is a great example over and over again.
00:45:24.700 I mean, we have no shortage of people in the industries, you name it.
00:45:27.620 That's why I said the industries, any of the arts who are channeling to get their ideas.
00:45:32.380 So it seems that ideas in some great way come from something external to the individual.
00:45:36.700 David Icke, for instance, channeled, I think he channeled some of his books.
00:45:40.280 Well, I mean, if you look at his, I think it's his own biography, he says that he had what he thought was a stroke at first.
00:45:49.100 And he channeled the disembodied spirits of ancient Atlantean masters.
00:45:54.600 Right.
00:45:55.000 Which, you know, is fantastic.
00:45:57.920 Yeah, and I don't think that he is lying.
00:46:02.120 I don't think David Icke is lying.
00:46:03.520 it's just oftentimes when a spirit comes to us and it shows us anything it's so profound dude
00:46:10.200 it's so unbelievable that this is even happening that we mistake that for the truth and i think
00:46:16.960 just to yeah just to jump in with the you said that you mentioned the methamphetamine leaving
00:46:22.020 the door open so i i broke my back playing aussie rules football and ended up getting addicted to
00:46:28.320 oxycontin okay opioids and i likened it once i got off them and got clean and stuff i likened
00:46:35.280 it to being possessed it's like it's like it's just so hard to describe to people and so when
00:46:40.800 people see other addicts like doing these things that they'll never normally do right harming
00:46:44.960 family members yeah blah blah then i think we have to start thinking like it and again i think we
00:46:50.240 know how magical this realm is and pharmacopeia and i think it's so much more advanced than it's
00:46:54.720 It's just, oh, it's a tablet that's kind of hijacking your brain a little bit.
00:46:58.400 So that's, yeah, I really think there's a thread to pull on there.
00:47:01.360 I mean, Tucker said it, right?
00:47:02.800 We've been stripped of our understanding of the spiritual realm.
00:47:05.920 We live in this materialistic realm, and we've tossed out the idea of the spiritual realm, much to our detriment.
00:47:10.260 I also don't want to strip it of this materialistic part because, you know, as a pharmacist, there is a chemical component to these things.
00:47:18.680 And that chemical component makes us susceptible to the spiritual things.
00:47:22.800 So right now as a – I guess as a race, a human race, we're dealing with them like two separate things.
00:47:29.860 Like, oh, there's a spiritual realm and some people are very woo-woo. 0.99
00:47:33.020 Maybe they'll put crystals in their butt and go do ayahuasca in the forest. 0.71
00:47:36.700 And then you have guys that are very serious and they're like, no, no, there is a chemical scientific explanation. 0.97
00:47:41.060 I'm like, these things interact with each other and the big trick is that we don't want to put them together or look at them on the same table.
00:47:48.280 That's like when you have the alien disclosure thing and they're talking about reverse engineered technology and zero point this and that. And I'm like, what are the nature of the entities? What do they want? You know, but I think that over and over again in our research, it appears that our our brains are a sort of frequency receiver.
00:48:06.260 And it's a highly advanced form of frequency receiving that it does.
00:48:11.680 And it's altered.
00:48:12.980 Its frequency dial is changed by chemicals.
00:48:19.120 So various chemicals will alter the waves or the frequencies that we can perceive.
00:48:25.140 And these entities over and over again seem to exist in frequency.
00:48:29.300 It actually goes back to the telepathy tapes thing, which, by the way, one more little thing on the on the Marzinski note.
00:48:37.380 He did have a patient who said the voices want me to let you know that they said you have no right to interfere with their way of life over and over again.
00:48:49.420 Their way of life seems to be parasitic and they operate best when you don't perceive them as external.
00:48:54.720 when you think they are you when you identify with the thoughts they operate the best as soon
00:49:00.760 as you start to treat them as if they're not your own thoughts it's like i caught you like you shine
00:49:05.140 a light on this and you're like what a second they're actually very weak right so once again
00:49:09.000 christianity is in its form that i've come to understand it is not fear-based we don't have
00:49:13.780 anything to fear if we're with god these other things are parasitic worms just to use the you 0.88
00:49:19.160 know the analogy for real life parasites biological parasites um they can be dealt with there's
00:49:24.440 nothing to fear i don't walk around in my everyday life with fear people will hear this worldview and 0.99
00:49:29.520 go oh my god you must be so scared christians i'm not scared of shit ever dude like literally 0.99
00:49:34.860 never i do not i don't issue black pills there's no doomer shit coming from our show at all it 0.99
00:49:41.280 doesn't exist uh whatsoever so i just want to lay that out but um going back to the telepathy tapes 0.70
00:49:46.240 wait a second i think uh sorry you were trying to say something i was going to say the way you
00:49:49.480 frame that then is just know know thyself right and all this effort to deceive us about who we are
00:49:55.960 and this perception on our reality people are lost and they don't know themselves and so when
00:50:01.480 they don't know if that voice is internal or external that's really i haven't heard anyone
00:50:05.840 frame like that before but it's so sneaky it's it's actually very weak there's even like more
00:50:10.240 layers to that because the know know thyself thing is a it's a it's an interesting starting
00:50:15.620 point but in a way like who are who are any of us we're like one of a billion people just passing
00:50:22.260 through this thing and how however long this world's been going on and if we're lucky we get
00:50:27.060 120 years that's pretty much like the max of what we're going to do what the hell could we know so
00:50:32.280 like I said we're containers I agree Bob Lazar I'm not going to be discouraged by what you're
00:50:37.720 saying here but it's like well what am I filling myself up with yeah I can fill myself up with
00:50:41.440 something that's going to deceive me and lie to me or maybe give me these short-term gains.
00:50:47.640 Or I could fill myself up with the thing that I think is the absolute truth. And whatever that is
00:50:52.700 to you, I know what it is to me. So if I know God, then I have a clear direction. It's like my
00:51:00.080 compass. So I cannot stray too far from whichever way I'm headed. So knowing myself is good, but a
00:51:07.840 lot of people that know themselves, like we were just talking about one of our friends,
00:51:11.440 They're like, yeah, the world is like objective and I'm spinning up.
00:51:14.820 There's no up.
00:51:15.400 There's no down.
00:51:16.340 It's like he knows himself, right?
00:51:19.040 No, no, no.
00:51:19.860 There has to be a clear objective.
00:51:21.360 We have to know what is up, what is down, which way we're headed.
00:51:24.180 And then we can start to trust ourselves but always have that connection to where we're going.
00:51:29.920 Yeah, you have to be oriented towards the truth.
00:51:32.300 And I think that's like when the Bible says Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, and the path is narrow.
00:51:37.500 Like, yeah, dude.
00:51:38.640 Yeah, super narrow.
00:51:39.540 People have gotten up into this thing where, like, truth, if you look at, let's say, culturally speaking from, like, the left, truth becomes, you know, subjective.
00:51:49.160 And it's debased.
00:51:50.780 And there's multiple truths all at once.
00:51:52.680 Like, no.
00:51:53.540 No, there's not.
00:51:54.140 There actually is one.
00:51:55.340 And this game that we seem to be existing in is one where these gigantic systems will give you a lot of truth, dude.
00:52:06.460 Like, there's a lot of truth in Wiccan.
00:52:09.540 There's a lot of truth in paganism.
00:52:11.600 There's a lot of truth in the occult.
00:52:14.460 There's a lot of truth in all these things.
00:52:16.280 There's a lot of truth in the telepathy tapes.
00:52:17.800 But they use that delivery vehicle of all this truth to Trojan horse you into one lie, one fundamental lie that will exist in there.
00:52:27.780 And that lie will change, but it's usually pretty similar.
00:52:31.180 Like I said, the one that I really zeroed in on is like this redefining of Christ that happens pretty consistently.
00:52:36.780 I bet you he doesn't know this, but what do you think the main point of the telepathy tapes was?
00:52:42.120 Like at the very end of it, what was the focus from Kai Dickens?
00:52:47.980 I think they were trying to frame like that we need to like kind of towards humans can be more or that we need to upgrade or unlock more superpowers kind of thing.
00:52:58.740 Right. We need to ascend, right?
00:52:59.980 We all need to like, so they framed the autism that these kids were suffering through, through like what seems like MK ultra techniques, free range, MK ultra techniques as a gift.
00:53:09.740 When I'm listening to it, I said, this seems a little bit like a curse.
00:53:14.820 But the main, sorry.
00:53:18.200 Well, yeah, this ascend thing, right?
00:53:20.380 You can be as, it's the same, it's the same lie that the serpent sells in the garden, you know, that we can ascend and we can be as gods effectively.
00:53:29.880 Sorry, I picked up my thought where I wanted to go here.
00:53:32.420 But an interesting tidbit there that's like not many people know.
00:53:37.020 I think episode six of that season one, she had Dr. Joel Infranco.
00:53:42.000 Oh, Joe Infranco.
00:53:43.900 Joe Infranco.
00:53:44.440 Joe Infranco.
00:53:45.300 And he was the—
00:53:45.840 He's a pastor.
00:53:46.780 He was the pastor.
00:53:48.120 And he was the guy that was talking about—he worked with kids like this nonverbal autist where they were doing spelling.
00:53:53.120 And he was—he's figured this out on his own through his Christian ministry.
00:53:57.960 We had him on the show.
00:53:59.240 and he's just like he we were talking and he was like yeah one thing i was really confused about
00:54:04.440 is like they removed like every mention of jesus christ these kids are interacting with jesus christ
00:54:10.240 in a heavy way and it's all redacted that's pretty much his entire experience every single one of
00:54:15.880 these kids is interacting with jesus christ on the hill somewhere doing something like this
00:54:19.260 but during the telepathy tapes when they were aired they were edited out completely and he was
00:54:23.180 like i just can't figure out why she did that and i was like hate to break it to you joe but it
00:54:27.660 seemed like there was a little bit of a narrative here that they were pushing forward and that
00:54:31.280 narrative was a new age one and we're talking about ascension we're talking about enlightenment
00:54:35.780 hiring your frequency or whatever when these kids are all injured they're all injured like this is
00:54:41.460 a terrible thing that has happened to these children and and we want to talk about it like
00:54:46.580 it's the next stage in human development i i think telepathy and these other faculties
00:54:50.920 do exist within us you know maybe if you want to get highly speculative that's what was happening
00:54:56.900 at the Tower of Babel when we were all of one language and all of one goal moving towards
00:55:00.940 something, you know, getting into these heavenly realms, and God seems to have confused us,
00:55:07.000 confused the languages, scattered us.
00:55:08.880 Maybe it's old factory settings.
00:55:11.000 Maybe there's something in the human DNA that still has access to that.
00:55:15.240 But the way to get it is trauma.
00:55:17.540 We also communicate kind of telepathically with our wives.
00:55:21.020 Oftentimes, like, you know, there'll be times where I'm thinking a song in my head and she
00:55:25.040 continues to sing it at like right at that at that point yeah i think that's just like being
00:55:29.680 together a lot so there is something about human beings that we do have this but the more we uh
00:55:34.840 extrapolated on this and thought about i'm like telepathy seems like a low level version of
00:55:39.460 communication or a version that we perhaps shouldn't use and a way less powerful version so
00:55:45.920 we have the largest podcast in the world telling us that we have to ascend so that way we could be
00:55:51.480 like these guys and imagine if we could all be a hive mind and talk to each other in our heads
00:55:56.720 all the time you can have any hidden thoughts and we could just be communicating because that's
00:56:00.620 another thing the kids they couldn't lie right because they're always they didn't have the the
00:56:04.700 cultural you know yeah they one they could perceive each other in such a way as they could not lie but
00:56:09.020 also they didn't have the societal and cultural baggage that made them lie they didn't have any
00:56:14.380 life experience that would be conducive to lying um because of their state yeah there'd be the
00:56:19.400 It'd be the Wild West these days with the thoughts going on in everyone's heads around the world.
00:56:25.020 You could read each other's minds, so humanity wouldn't be ready for it at the moment anyway.
00:56:29.500 Well, we're talking about frequency, right?
00:56:31.460 And in the Bible, it says God used the Word to create the universe.
00:56:34.820 He spoke the universe into existence.
00:56:36.540 I think that—
00:56:37.100 Something powerful about—
00:56:38.500 Frequency, about speaking.
00:56:40.260 And I think that when you look into—
00:56:42.020 Again, it sounds New Age, right?
00:56:43.320 It does.
00:56:44.220 Because, dude, there's so many truths.
00:56:46.400 There's so many truths in all of the things that they're talking about.
00:56:49.200 the new age movement is talking about like it's not all inherently evil it's just like what
00:56:53.080 conclusion do you draw like that's the problem it's like you look at this universe and you
00:56:57.300 realize that there is frequency and spirituality and and you know psychedelics can have this
00:57:02.280 experience and that experience and you can commune with different entities that are not in the
00:57:05.760 physical yes yes yes yes dude spot on a hundred percent and you're having profound experiences
00:57:11.620 that are leading you towards conclusions it's like what are these conclusions but um if if god
00:57:17.500 spoke the universe into existence like maybe speaking maybe using the word is more powerful
00:57:23.140 than we understand we have a kind of a guy that appears on the show he's almost a mentor of ours
00:57:28.800 and he maintains that when you speak a thing it happens in the spiritual realm and then eventually
00:57:35.500 manifests in the real world and that's a new age principle in a lot of ways and one that i do not
00:57:40.300 disagree with and so on the flip side of that coin every demonic encounter that anybody has
00:57:47.260 every alien encounter that somebody has every even cryptids for those of you that believe in
00:57:52.820 those these things are all speaking telepathically these low vibrational parasitic nightmare creatures
00:58:01.420 are speaking telepathically yeah just like a a recent story that director he said he encountered
00:58:07.540 a gray at uh some island in like an alaska oh no that was the nordic he encountered a nordic
00:58:13.800 And an island is, is it a tall white or something?
00:58:16.360 It would have been like Maine or something like that.
00:58:17.540 Yeah, the guy knew who he was, kind of like read his thoughts, and then told him to turn around and go home.
00:58:22.600 And they were not within speaking distance, and he said the guy's lips never moved.
00:58:27.180 But he was like eight feet tall, blonde hair.
00:58:29.160 So he's communicating telepathically.
00:58:31.340 Yeah.
00:58:32.120 And I'm just not so caught up.
00:58:34.180 I think when a thing is profound and it's new, we do a mistake.
00:58:38.120 We make a mistake, and it is therefore good and the truth.
00:58:41.460 an entity appears to you you think that when alistair crowley communed with awos or lamb
00:58:47.740 that the profundity of that experience didn't make him go this is good and true
00:58:53.400 you know now we understand crowley is doing sex magic and he's in altered states constantly and
00:59:01.120 calls himself the wickedest man and i know that a lot of that was kind of a trope because that's
00:59:04.980 what he was being labeled as um but you look at lamb and it looks like the visage of a modern day
00:59:10.720 gray alien. There's so much that seems to be wrong there. I don't think that Crowley thought
00:59:16.060 he was wrong. I don't think that he thought he was doing evil. I mean, he made these proclamations
00:59:21.740 of being the wickedest man, but I think it's because, well, obviously his upbringing and the
00:59:26.140 loss of his father, who was, I believe, a pastor or a priest, and it pushes him in this direction,
00:59:31.700 and then, you know, sort of society labels him this, and so he embraces it, which is something
00:59:37.500 that i think we're guilty of too it's like you want to call us this and that fine we're this and
00:59:41.580 that dude so so in that way you know crowley is is uh you know almost a rebellious individual
00:59:46.980 that you can't blame but i don't think the dude genuinely thought he was doing evil i don't think
00:59:53.020 anybody who is doing that there's very very far and few in between in my estimation that are
00:59:58.560 engaging and let's say like ritual and ceremony and things like that that aren't justifying it
01:00:03.540 and it's rooted in some good in their mind you know so we have this thing by nature of seeing
01:00:09.740 something that the materialistic realm says does not exist or interacting with something that
01:00:14.560 doesn't exist it's so profound changes the paradigm must be good and true and that's a
01:00:20.260 huge mistake and i think telepathy is one of those things where it's like yeah man it's it's a reality
01:00:26.240 it's a reality but i don't think that it is i think it's it's far in second place third
01:00:33.360 place whatever to the spoken word well also on on the idea telepathy um if we can go back a little
01:00:41.900 bit more where you were talking about that doctor that found heavy metals in the brain dude you're
01:00:46.760 good that were removed that it the telepathy tapes let us down such a crazy path because i
01:00:53.500 think in episode two they they mentioned uh man what's his name is it buharaj yeah they mentioned
01:00:58.960 Yeah, Dr. Andrija Puharic, who comes around in like 1947 and starts getting patents for his dental tooth implant.
01:01:09.240 And basically it's like a metal dental tooth implant, and they were using it to do voice-to-skull technology.
01:01:15.440 So think about – you're familiar with like those headphones that will go on your – like right here on your head, and it will vibrate, but it will create the sensation of sound.
01:01:25.460 Same thing in your tooth.
01:01:27.200 Yeah, it's a really famous instance of Lucille Ball, who, you know, she had—
01:01:32.860 And I don't even know how she got this.
01:01:34.400 It might have been—
01:01:35.780 I think they were free-ranging it.
01:01:37.520 You think they were—yeah, it's possible.
01:01:38.820 And they're doing it in Hollywood, too.
01:01:40.140 They need evangelists.
01:01:41.500 A lot of this experiences that people have, part of the point is to go on and evangelize.
01:01:47.260 And it's usually to evangelize like a Gnostic gospel or something like that.
01:01:49.780 But they want people to spread this information one way or another that they're getting from these deceptive spirits.
01:01:54.820 But in the case of Lucille Ball, she goes and has routine, you know, dental procedure done and gets this implant and starts picking up music in her head as she's driving.
01:02:04.900 We've all seen that trope like Looney Tunes used to do that. 0.96
01:02:07.640 They would get braces and pick up frequencies and such.
01:02:11.080 So she's complaining about it to somebody and they say, did you get dental surgery recently?
01:02:15.760 She said, yeah, I did.
01:02:17.160 So he explains that there's heavy metals that are put in the tooth.
01:02:20.060 Metal is a conductor, a conductor of what frequency, right?
01:02:23.220 so i don't know if you see where we're going now with these kids but it goes to such an extreme
01:02:29.400 that lucille ball ends up thwarting a japanese insurgency because she hears their communications
01:02:35.740 in her head so it's this really famous story oh how quirky they realize that it works this tooth
01:02:42.640 implant works now the nervous system that's attached to the teeth goes directly to the brain
01:02:45.920 it's like the shortest route um that's why it's so dangerous if you get like a tooth infection
01:02:49.840 and you don't take care of it
01:02:51.360 because it can go straight to your brain.
01:02:54.240 So what would be better than the teeth is the brain,
01:02:57.480 but you have the issue of the blood-brain barrier.
01:03:01.000 How do you get these implants in living individuals?
01:03:04.660 Well, what if you have a procedure
01:03:06.820 that is elongated over time in youth, right?
01:03:10.860 Happens a little bit at a time
01:03:12.560 and it deposits heavy metals in the brain,
01:03:15.500 directly in the brain.
01:03:16.640 now not only are you in this state of disassociation you can't engage with your body
01:03:22.040 you have frequency conducting heavy metals directly in your brain these things we've
01:03:29.560 already talked about exist in frequency when people are channeling that's where they exist
01:03:34.220 some another tidbit of information i was just looking up the exact uh air uh uh sorry uh
01:03:40.620 naval base army base that puharich was located at because he was in the army while he's doing
01:03:46.580 Well, he gets out of the army and then he starts developing these patents, but he came out of Edgewood Arsenal and Edgewood Arsenal is directly connected to a lot of MKUltra experiments. 0.73
01:03:55.720 So now we're dealing with different chemical formulas.
01:03:57.880 We're dealing with different techniques of how to basically how to get stuff inside people and see what happens.
01:04:03.040 And now at this point, you know, we talked about the free range aspect before.
01:04:05.980 You're traumatizing yourself with your little scrying, you know, box or scrying mirror.
01:04:10.960 We're all on low grade SSRIs probably at any given time.
01:04:15.180 we're using psychedelics to do this that and the other thing to commune with the spiritual we all
01:04:18.980 have doing heavy metals in our brain that's the other thing yeah rogan is a whole other i love
01:04:23.700 joe rogan but there's something really strange when it comes to promoting psychedelics and float
01:04:27.160 tanks and the john c lily sort of dolphin experiments with the float tanks with psychedelics
01:04:32.620 that mk ultra becomes very fascinated in and if you look at laurel canyon and the popularization
01:04:36.940 of the psychedelics movement that was manufactured by military intelligence then joe rogan comes along
01:04:42.180 And he creates another psychedelics experience resurgence, you know, culturally speaking it to me, it seems too serendipitous to be innocuous.
01:04:53.180 But, yeah, I mean, they're getting these metals into your brain directly.
01:04:58.920 Much of the programs that came out of MKUltra, you know, they say MKUltra went away whatever year.
01:05:05.560 It's like, no, it was viable and it went to the free range state.
01:05:09.960 and it was implemented implemented at scale and i think a lot of it is to like the gate program
01:05:15.780 the gifted and talented i think the selection process is for these programs that's what the
01:05:21.640 gate is it's it's to find candidates that are suited for because they discovered some people
01:05:27.600 are more receptive to this think about the severity and again like for uh youtube's sake
01:05:32.300 but like i went from 16 when i was a kid like that's what i got the schedule's crazy now my
01:05:38.640 kids 72 something like that yeah oh absolutely yeah and i've obviously got the full indoctrination
01:05:44.980 when i went through uni and then i've come full circle and realized the truth now that
01:05:49.400 yeah there's no safe amount of heavy metal in the human body which is
01:05:53.280 like all things in nature right yeah but um well i'm not sure how you guys are going for time but
01:06:00.100 um i'd love to know what's the most interesting conversations you've had recently or rabbit
01:06:05.660 holes you've been going down things that blow in your mind change your opinion yeah um for me
01:06:11.340 um this is just coming to the top of the head so if anybody hears this and they're like what about
01:06:16.300 me if forgive me but karen wilkinson we do so many interviews we do so many i mean we're doing
01:06:21.460 like seven episodes a week karen wilkinson um is an author and she's a christian she works with uh
01:06:31.240 L.A. Marzulli, Vicki Joy Anderson.
01:06:33.960 They do a fantastic job of looking at sleep paralysis, demonic encounters, alien abductions.
01:06:40.420 Karen Wilkinson is an abductee victim who recalls a lot of her experience.
01:06:49.380 And one of the more fascinating things she said, she has children that would fit the black eyed children kind of paradigm.
01:06:59.200 So for people that are familiar with the abduction experience, there seems to be a phenomenon of impregnation.
01:07:03.580 And then, you know, the baby mysteriously disappears only later on to be reintroduced to the mother. 0.93
01:07:09.460 And in the 80s, they looked like kind of grotesque grays mixed with humans, big black eyes, pale skin. 0.98
01:07:19.600 And that's kind of refined over time. 1.00
01:07:21.400 The more you look into the testimony, the more the children bear a greater resemblance to human beings instead of grays. 0.96
01:07:27.540 She's had that experience. 0.99
01:07:28.620 She has children that she's been introduced to that felt like her own children but were uncanny and barely responsive and lacked any of the social elements that, you know, kids of their age would typically have.
01:07:43.420 The other thing that she said was that in one particular instance, she saw the greys discarded in a heap on the ship.
01:07:55.200 um they smelled foul like sulfur and and uncleaned you know unwashed and um and they seem to be
01:08:05.440 suits almost in their in the way that they were discarded they had no life in them um 0.99
01:08:12.020 and it led to this speculation of hers that i think has some real legs that the grays are 0.85
01:08:19.340 automatons which is pretty consistent with people's experiences no uh reproductive organs
01:08:25.540 no emotional range just sort of a hive mind worker bee um kind of a feel and in that way
01:08:33.600 it's kind of allowed us to speculate you know in the in the greater hybridization program
01:08:39.840 nephilim aliens what's the connection here demons are spirits then how are demons aliens
01:08:46.860 How are they the same thing? I think the array that is demonic has been so diversified. There's so many different things now that are biological or technological or otherwise that are in that camp.
01:09:02.880 And I think that there's a chance based off of her story that these things are automatons that can be inhabited temporarily by a spirit that have very limited capacity.
01:09:15.560 They just do a thing or maybe they just get turned off and left in a heap.
01:09:18.640 But, you know, her stories and her estimation of the alien phenomenon have really informed my worldview and helped me to put these things together in such a way that when Steven Spielberg comes along and says Christians are going to have a real hard time with their faith when they watch Disclosure Day or people that say when aliens reveal themselves, what are Christians going to do?
01:09:43.980 I am so firm in my position. Not that I couldn't be introduced to information that wouldn't make me, you know, move things around and see how they fit. But the Christian worldview accommodates all of this in such a way that I look at these people who say, you're going to be shaken up. And I go, we talk about this every single day. And there's nothing that doesn't fit. There's nothing that gives me pause.
01:10:11.300 I come from a line. My grandmother was an alien abductee victim, and she her life was cut pretty short because of the stresses of that and the abuse, the alcohol abuse that she went into.
01:10:23.040 My bloodline is filled with iniquity. My aunt is schizophrenic in the worst possible way.
01:10:30.120 All of the kids of my generation experience all of the things, the strangest things.
01:10:35.040 and where i sit now because of conversations with people like karen like none of this
01:10:40.580 is even remote i feel bad if if you're a christian and you're just going through the motions
01:10:45.220 because yeah you will be shaken up you know if you if you don't yeah that's pretty crazy i haven't
01:10:51.200 heard that that take before either and it kind of gets me thinking about when we hear stories
01:10:54.960 of military bases where they're growing things in tanks whether it be grays or hybrids or
01:10:59.580 celebrities um and then you see like the eyes change or something are they like possessed or
01:11:05.420 or whatever it all kind of ties into that one thing what you just described yeah by the way i
01:11:09.440 do think that a great deal of alien abductions are an extension of that same kind of mk ultra style
01:11:14.980 um project because so often military personnel are present in in these people's stories uh medical
01:11:22.440 personnel are present scientific personnel are present among this array of so i think there is
01:11:27.200 There's a chance even that many of the things people encounter are just kind of nightmare chimeric creatures that are cooked up in a lab and meant to maybe create a screen memory for some nefarious intelligence agency operation that you actually went through.
01:11:44.940 And you're meant to remember this automaton or, you know, so often people will describe cryptids, Dogman being one that's pretty famous right now, in and around military bases.
01:11:57.600 That's where the encounter happened within a radius of only a few miles or even right up against the gate, let's say, of a military base.
01:12:06.480 I've heard hundreds of these to the extent where I don't think people are lying anymore.
01:12:10.460 You're just collecting data and patterns, and I think that, yeah, they're probably cooking up things, and I don't think it's any different than what used to happen.
01:12:17.960 When you get like – there are people out there like Albarino that are fighting for disclosure, and their – I guess their reason is to expose a lot of these crimes because in a sense, they're just straight-up crimes.
01:12:33.220 if you're going to be taking people from their homes and impregnating them against their will
01:12:37.120 or performing experiments on them, wiping their brain, and the government's implicit and involved
01:12:42.280 with this, it needs to be exposed. On the other side of that, when you do expose it, what happens?
01:12:49.160 And we're living that right now. I don't know what's happening in Australia, but there's a
01:12:53.580 slow drip here before the dam breaks. And who knows? Are you guys getting disclosure in the
01:12:58.380 same way or is it is it kind of people watching the american government oh and in terms of like
01:13:04.000 alien disclosures yeah yeah there's been a big push and um yeah there's a couple of aussie guys
01:13:10.480 on like journalists on 60 minutes like the mainstream ones the last few years that have
01:13:14.900 really been ramping it up and stuff and we've got a long history here with pine gap and our
01:13:19.640 nuclear experiments and um but yeah australia is a very very weird place with heaps of conspiracy
01:13:25.680 and the cult stuff as well i'm not sure if you guys have ever been down the australia rabbit
01:13:29.920 hole much no i i honestly would love to have you on because i don't know anything uh about australia
01:13:34.740 we'd love to have you on sometime to talk about it because you kind of alluded to that before we
01:13:38.560 started the show too and um you know the the kind of correlation between america and and australia
01:13:46.120 what i do know about australia is that it seems like most of it's not inhabited it seems like a
01:13:51.580 lot of it is kind of like a desert or something seems like there's some some folks are drinking
01:13:55.300 gasoline you know i think a lot i think a lot of what happened especially you know during the
01:14:01.480 pandemic was like they were testing it on you guys oh you guys were almost ground zero for
01:14:06.520 some of the most egregious government overstepping um we've been ground zero since 1778 which i'd
01:14:14.480 love to get into with you guys you guys are the petri dish they're testing it on you
01:14:17.840 that's interesting everything that's interesting and pine gap might be the most important military
01:14:24.280 deepest military base in the world from people that i've interviewed that said i've been there
01:14:28.660 and stuff so you're talking about deep underground military bases like that style
01:14:32.580 have you heard of pine gap it's like in the middle of it's the middle of the outback of
01:14:37.500 the desert and it's the the key of the five eyes alliance and people like victims that i've spoken
01:14:43.320 to that have been to underground military bases said it's like it's that deep and it's connected
01:14:47.800 to everywhere around the world and that's incredible we'll we'll talk after the show
01:14:52.520 And get you booked with – you know, see what you're – I'd love to talk about that.
01:14:56.040 Can I say what my favorite – not favorite episode, but like my favorite thing?
01:15:00.780 It'll be quick.
01:15:01.320 I promise.
01:15:02.780 On a recent episode, we were talking with Rob Skiba's son, Jeremiah Skiba.
01:15:06.800 You know who Rob Skiba is?
01:15:08.440 He was like –
01:15:09.180 Maybe. 0.90
01:15:10.480 He's like an OG Nephilim dude like he knew about – 0.99
01:15:14.060 Flat earther too.
01:15:14.760 OG flat earther.
01:15:15.580 Yeah, yeah.
01:15:16.600 Anyway, his son's out there doing great work. 0.97
01:15:18.380 and we found out that elephants have breasts.
01:15:22.900 Did you know that?
01:15:23.520 I did not know that. 1.00
01:15:25.180 Have breasts? 1.00
01:15:26.400 Not like udders. 1.00
01:15:28.080 Like they have breasts. 1.00
01:15:29.580 Yeah. 1.00
01:15:30.800 I didn't know that. 1.00
01:15:31.520 Like a lady, they got two hanging heavies.
01:15:35.540 And I think it might be a Mandela effect because I don't remember that as a kid.
01:15:39.680 You think everybody would know that. 0.97
01:15:41.200 But, yeah, if you Google that, listeners at home, elephant tits. 1.00
01:15:45.800 Elephant tits is crazy. 1.00
01:15:46.840 And they look like boobs. 1.00
01:15:50.240 Yeah, like you could put a bra on an elephant and you would be like, damn. 1.00
01:15:53.660 I would have imagined they had udders. 0.99
01:15:57.480 Why even put them on there?
01:15:59.340 This is very strange, actually.
01:16:00.840 Yeah, you'd imagine there would be better ways to feed them.
01:16:03.820 There are non-canonical Jewish texts that talk about at the Tower of Babel.
01:16:12.400 it elaborates this idea that when god confused the languages and scattered the nations in these
01:16:18.740 jewish texts it even claims that uh some were turned into animals and the elephant is one of
01:16:24.740 them if you look at the structural uh foot yeah it looks just like a human's doesn't look at all
01:16:31.980 like what you would think given the it looks like a human's foot on a high heel and then standing on
01:16:36.360 like a thing of blood which is not um the pig conspiracy as well yeah there's i think that is
01:16:42.500 in there uh but the idea that that pigs were well it goes both ways pigs are either a byproduct of
01:16:49.360 us or we're a byproduct a genetic uh you know deviation of pigs which is very fun that's why
01:16:56.200 we're so compatible when it comes to you know i guess in some cases how we should eat them right
01:17:00.580 is that what they say oh that's interesting too that we shouldn't eat them because they're riddled
01:17:03.560 with parasites so are we so are we we all have uh parasite issues well guys i could chat to you
01:17:10.220 for hours i love it anything um i'll put all the links to follow you guys on all your socials down
01:17:14.980 below but any final thoughts from both of you um not not necessarily a thought but we do a live
01:17:21.480 event i don't want to get out of here without mentioning this we do a live event i know most
01:17:25.220 of your audience is likely in in australia but um we do a show called brohemian grove and um
01:17:30.960 Last year we had Sam Tripoli and Owen Benjamin headlining the event, and we get everybody together in this kind of conspiracy community who can make it, and we just come down, and it's heavy on the comedy, but we talk about all sorts of things, and it's a fantastic time.
01:17:49.600 And we're doing the next one.
01:17:50.620 Bohemian Grove is happening here in Florida on August 8th.
01:17:55.060 So if anybody's interested, if you have anybody that's in the in the area that would like to be a part of it, we have so many people coming out.
01:18:01.300 I can't even name it.
01:18:02.080 I think the list right now is like there's like 25 different podcasts that are coming out to hang out with us.
01:18:08.820 TopLobster.com, my co-host namesake.
01:18:11.680 Just go there and that's where our merch is going to be.
01:18:14.800 But it's also where the tickets to Bohemian Grove are going to be.
01:18:19.140 Awesome.
01:18:19.600 I'll link that for you guys.
01:18:20.960 But any thoughts from you, Lobster, on anything at all before we wrap it up?
01:18:25.060 I have very few original thoughts.
01:18:27.080 And the ones that I do, I'm not even sure are my own, as we've discussed,
01:18:31.160 like just floating through the ether.
01:18:32.880 No, this was a great time, man.
01:18:34.220 I appreciate you having us on.
01:18:36.880 Yeah, thank you, Alex.
01:18:37.580 I do have a question.
01:18:38.700 What time is it right now for you?
01:18:41.860 It's quarter past 12, and this is the latest podcast I've done in a few years.
01:18:45.820 But it's what we've got to do, right, when we're on different sides of the world.
01:18:48.860 wow well thank you for making the time for us dude this is a pleasure i really appreciate it
01:18:53.660 i do appreciate that man thank thank you for having us dude no stress it was great to get
01:18:58.660 you get to know you guys properly as well and um yeah well done on your success and
01:19:03.320 we'll probably collab again in future so take care you too cheers guys cool