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00:01:43.720 I'm here with David and Top Lobster from Nephilim Death Squad.

00:01:49.100 What's up, guys?

00:01:50.100 How y'all doing?

00:01:51.980 What's going on, brother?

00:01:53.100 Top, why don't you take it away first?

00:01:55.000 Yeah, man.

00:01:55.600 It's good to be here with you.

00:01:59.160 Sorry, I'm doing something here.

00:02:00.720 I don't know what I'm doing.

00:02:01.420 I'm very, like, I get very distracted with things.

00:02:05.040 It's good to be here, Tommy.

00:02:06.640 And you were my first podcast interview.

00:02:10.120 I came on year zero.

00:02:11.380 This podcast about, I don't know, must have been five years ago, four years ago.

00:02:15.780 I think it was 2018.

00:02:19.060 Wow.

00:02:20.000 Six years ago.

00:02:21.100 How innocent were we?

00:02:22.460 We thought we were talking about...

00:02:23.780 I think we talked about Mises.

00:02:28.580 We were talking about shit that matters back then.

00:02:31.420 I have returned.

00:02:34.200 Before the show started, I was talking to Tommy when you stepped off, and he was like,

00:02:37.740 yeah, man, I was his first interview.

00:02:40.040 And then the next thing you know, it's like Tower Gang started.

00:02:42.300 And I was like, oh, my God.

00:02:43.220 And I was like, somebody's going to hold you responsible one day for that.

00:02:47.060 For what you added to the world in the form of Tower Gang.

00:02:51.560 Oh, boy.

00:02:52.340 We just did our first live event for Nephilim Death Squad and Tower Gang.

00:02:56.040 And it was, like, right in the middle of Coctober, which is...

00:02:59.360 I guess this is what the show is going to...

00:03:00.980 This is where the show is going.

00:03:02.300 So I'll tell you.

00:03:03.140 So we're on stage.

00:03:04.460 And Coctober is when our fans submit their penises to us.

00:03:08.760 And then we rate them on a scale of...

00:03:11.260 It's like a scrumdilumptious scale.

00:03:14.320 So one to scrumdilumptious being the most.

00:03:17.480 And the winner this year had...

00:03:19.900 It was just his penis in a hot dog with mustard on it.

00:03:23.380 And it was on a TV behind us.

00:03:26.320 So there's an entire live audience.

00:03:28.300 And we put it up and there's a TV behind us for about 30 minutes of just this guy's penis next to other hot dogs with mustard.

00:03:34.300 And he's just standing there.

00:03:36.220 And that's what you brought into the world, Tommy.

00:03:38.120 So congratulations.

00:03:38.920 That's your legacy, I guess.

00:03:40.540 Yes.

00:03:41.520 At least I brought some good into the world, man.

00:03:44.040 At least one thing worked out.

00:03:46.280 I had a buddy of mine years ago.

00:03:51.640 And he would bitch bone and groan because his girl wouldn't suck his dick.

00:03:55.640 She just wouldn't do it.

00:03:57.180 And she finally got tired of listening to him bitch.

00:04:01.200 And she tore his pants down in front of everybody, smeared peanut butter all over it, and fucking just started going to town.

00:04:09.300 Good God.

00:04:10.360 Did he marry her?

00:04:11.680 Yes.

00:04:13.940 There you go.

00:04:14.780 That's a love story.

00:04:17.280 Wow.

00:04:18.460 You got some interesting friends, man.

00:04:20.200 Yeah.

00:04:20.680 Well, you know, you got to make things.

00:04:24.440 You got to keep it up and popping, man.

00:04:26.740 Yeah.

00:04:27.560 Life's too boring if you don't do shit like that.

00:04:30.180 But, yeah, it was awesome.

00:04:31.280 It was hilarious.

00:04:32.880 So, Tommy, since then, since I've been on your podcast, I guess let's run it down.

00:04:38.100 I've created toplobster.com.

00:04:41.000 I did all the artwork for Josh Smith and his show.

00:04:45.340 And some of his campaign because he ran for president or ran for some shit before president.

00:04:49.760 And then I decided libertarianism is gay.

00:04:52.500 And then I worked for Gas Digital.

00:04:56.020 And I did their merchandise and then Skank Fest.

00:04:59.440 And then I decided that I wanted to do a podcast.

00:05:02.940 So, besides Tower Game, because I don't really consider that a show.

00:05:05.820 I just consider that something that people shouldn't watch.

00:05:08.640 So, we created Nephilim Death Squad.

00:05:13.280 I met David online and we're like, hey, we're both kind of crazy and we're into the same kind of stuff.

00:05:19.840 And I was doing my show.

00:05:20.760 He was doing his.

00:05:21.400 And we're like, we might as well just do it together.

00:05:23.220 Call it something different.

00:05:23.920 So, we called it Nephilim Death Squad.

00:05:25.460 And we're about a year in now, I suppose.

00:05:28.400 Yeah, we just passed the year mark.

00:05:29.800 What would have been October?

00:05:31.300 Which was wild because a year into it, we ended up holding the second annual Bohemian Grove.

00:05:38.620 Or I guess semi-annual Bohemian Grove.

00:05:40.740 Which is a comedy and conspiracy event.

00:05:43.160 It was a two-day event.

00:05:44.820 And yeah, so we just did a bunch of wild stuff in just one year's time.

00:05:49.580 But yeah, we, like Top said, kind of met on the internet, talking the same unhinged schizophrenic conspiracy theories.

00:05:57.660 And we went, you know what, dude?

00:05:58.620 I think I like you.

00:05:59.760 And decided that it was worth making a show.

00:06:02.480 And yeah, so we just passed the year mark on it.

00:06:04.600 I think we're about to, I think we're like 90 episodes in, give or take.

00:06:09.460 We just did episode 80.

00:06:11.140 We just wrapped episode 86.

00:06:13.180 So, yeah.

00:06:14.420 There you go.

00:06:15.320 86.

00:06:15.700 We did a deep dive on Cliff High, which I don't know.

00:06:18.460 Are you familiar with Cliff High?

00:06:20.300 I am not.

00:06:21.580 Okay.

00:06:21.940 I think we should maybe touch on that a little bit.

00:06:24.220 Some of his work.

00:06:25.260 That might interest you and your viewers.

00:06:28.620 But yeah, we've done two live events.

00:06:31.140 The first one, we had Sam Tripoli headline.

00:06:33.100 The second one, Leonardo Joni came down.

00:06:35.400 And a bunch of other people, like Cult of Conspiracy.

00:06:37.860 It was fun.

00:06:38.400 We're going to do it again.

00:06:39.640 And I guess this is what we do now.

00:06:41.100 We're doing, I've embraced whatever podcasting is.

00:06:45.180 And I'm trying to do the most of it and trying to do, I guess I'm trying to do something like

00:06:52.460 things that are not usual to it.

00:06:54.640 I just, I want to move outside of whatever the box is of podcasting.

00:06:57.600 So we do, I'm doing the merch for it.

00:06:59.160 We're doing artwork for it.

00:07:00.280 We're doing live events, all kinds of stuff.

00:07:02.900 And just seeing where we, where we land.

00:07:05.380 It's been, it's been a fun ride.

00:07:06.460 So, so tell, talk about, let's talk about, uh, what is Nephilim death, death squad?

00:07:12.760 Uh, Nephilim is, is an ancient, uh, word, uh, taken from biblical text, uh, Genesis, right?

00:07:21.480 Genesis six.

00:07:22.780 Uh, and it was the, uh, fallen angels had, uh, taken advantage of, uh, human women and, uh,

00:07:29.980 had their offspring were called the Nephilim.

00:07:32.540 Uh, they were known for having what, six fingers.

00:07:35.060 Right.

00:07:35.400 And, uh, I know, uh, I know the confessionals, they talk, he talks about the Nephilim a lot

00:07:41.620 over there at the confessionals, but, uh, where did, where did the name come from and

00:07:46.520 what, what is y'all's general topics?

00:07:48.960 I, I find some of your topics very entertaining.

00:07:53.400 So the name, um, I'm kind of, I guess top is this real nuts and bolts guy, right?

00:07:59.740 Like he has this ability to execute and, and make graphic art, run a website, make things

00:08:04.800 happen.

00:08:05.100 He's the kind of make things happen guy.

00:08:07.400 Um, I'm just the occasional good idea guy who's often taken aback at top's ability to

00:08:12.920 execute it.

00:08:13.860 So, um, Nephilim death squad was a name that I had floating around in my head when I was

00:08:18.980 doing my previous show, which was the Raven's watch.

00:08:21.540 And I knew that I liked it.

00:08:23.080 I knew I wanted to apply it to something.

00:08:24.620 I was just waiting for an opportunity to show itself.

00:08:26.600 And so when top and I got together, um, I said, you know what, man, I think that we should

00:08:30.720 call the show this.

00:08:31.500 He agreed.

00:08:32.340 But the, the basic idea of the show, um, is more or less that we've come to the conclusion,

00:08:39.740 all of the conspiracy theories that capture the attention of conspiracy theorists can

00:08:45.540 be most accurately explained and identified through a biblical lens.

00:08:54.000 And it actually took me in particular a very long time where top was raised, um, with a

00:09:01.200 religious background.

00:09:01.860 I was not, uh, I didn't have any of that.

00:09:04.220 And I was a conspiracy theorist from a kid.

00:09:07.020 I just fell in love with them, uh, you know, just mysteries in the kind of the same way

00:09:11.620 somebody would fall in love with like a mystery genre, uh, was the same way that I fell in

00:09:15.740 love with this idea that the official narrative is bunk and that there is much more going on

00:09:20.900 behind the scenes that even reaches levels of sort of the fantastic.

00:09:25.480 And eventually after a long time, um, I had some experiences and gathered enough information

00:09:32.980 where I, I looked over to the Bible and I said, you know what, there's something here.

00:09:37.760 Um, I had never dismissed it, but I always sort of put it off.

00:09:41.120 It wasn't something that I really incorporated into my research as much as other things that

00:09:46.840 I was interested in.

00:09:48.100 And so, uh, it seems to be that that was the connective tissue between me and top.

00:09:53.480 When I turned that corner was the same time you had mentioned, you know, the confessionals,

00:09:57.600 um, Tony was a big inspiration in that guys like Sam Tripoli are tremendous inspiration

00:10:01.800 as well for our show.

00:10:03.640 And that idea of seeing the conspiratorial world through this biblical lens was the great

00:10:10.980 connective tissue for top and I, that's what brought us together.

00:10:14.420 And, um, and then we took that and we took that name Nephilim death squad, which just kind

00:10:18.960 of has a hit to it.

00:10:20.220 You know, a lot of people, they're like, really gets the people going, it gets the people

00:10:24.280 going exactly.

00:10:25.540 Um, but that was it.

00:10:26.920 We just started with a name and a concept and then we hit the ground running.

00:10:29.800 And so Nephilim death squad is that at its foundation and us just pursuing the things

00:10:36.520 that are interesting to us, uh, a conspiracy that's interesting to us.

00:10:40.040 Does somebody have a theory about what's going on?

00:10:43.420 Let's have them on.

00:10:44.200 Let's have them discuss the theory.

00:10:45.160 And, and that method where we don't necessarily approach anything as definitively true, more

00:10:51.860 just compelling, you know, uh, information to chew on.

00:10:56.220 And that model has really resonated with people and it's, it's, you know, brought us quite

00:11:01.040 a bit of success, uh, I guess in the past.

00:11:02.940 I'm actually looking this up because I'm like, we get lost with the time, right?

00:11:06.040 Like, I don't know, last week seems like a year ago.

00:11:09.660 It was just this year that the Jewish tunnels happened.

00:11:12.120 As a matter of fact, Jewish tunnels happened after this Miami mall Nephilim incident, which

00:11:17.220 is a kind of a good place to like, say what we've been doing.

00:11:21.420 So we start the show in October, Nephilim death squad, and then January 5th, there was

00:11:27.160 a viral video and a slew of incidents that happened in this, in the Miami mall.

00:11:31.080 They shut, they shut it down.

00:11:32.560 And if you watch the video, it was kind of crazy.

00:11:35.420 You have a bunch of cop cars, but they're not trailed by a fire department or ambulance.

00:11:41.380 It's just cop cars.

00:11:42.640 They create a perimeter around the Miami mall, which is like on the bay.

00:11:46.260 It's right where Clint lives and they shut it down for the night.

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00:12:45.700 There's videos coming out, and there's, you know, some of the videos are fake.

00:12:51.420 Some of the videos, who knows?

00:12:53.860 But the interesting part about this is that the people were calling it,

00:12:57.920 they weren't saying that they were giants or that they were entities or beings there.

00:13:02.040 They were saying that they were Nephilim.

00:13:03.880 They were like 10-foot Nephilim in the Miami Mall.

00:13:06.140 Name, like, seemingly comes from, we use it in our show title,

00:13:12.620 and obviously people like L.A. Marzulli and Gary Wayne and Michael Heiser

00:13:16.740 have been talking about the Nephilim for a long time,

00:13:18.460 but it hasn't reached the conscience of the public in this sort of a way in ever.

00:13:24.420 I think even three months before this or six months before that was the L.A.

00:13:27.640 or the Vegas giant aliens, but they were calling them giant aliens running through Las Vegas.

00:13:32.780 Now, in January of 2024, they're calling them Nephilim.

00:13:38.040 So there's been a shift in the narrative and how people are viewing these things,

00:13:43.140 and we've already been, like, kind of poking at, at that point,

00:13:46.300 I've been poking at, like, well, how come when AI makes, you know,

00:13:50.440 it's digital images, they have six fingers, or, like, weird stuff like that.

00:13:53.780 Like, what's in the AI?

00:13:54.960 What are we actually talking to?

00:13:56.020 And some of it, you know, it can get weird, and some of it could be wrong,

00:14:00.520 and some of it could just be fun.

00:14:02.160 But I think at the heart of it, what we talk about, like, uncovering the Nephilim shit

00:14:06.400 of what is actually going on, I think that that's at the very base,

00:14:10.140 the very, sorry, the very base of the conspiracy of everything that we're seeing.

00:14:14.720 And, you know, I guess, like, go ahead.

00:14:17.060 To your point, Top, I just want to say that it's like what we did is there was many more respectable people

00:14:23.000 in this field, right?

00:14:24.320 Like, you just mentioned L.A. Marzulli, and Michael Heiser, and Gary Wayne,

00:14:27.400 and, you know, Dr. Laura Sanger, all these characters who have put in the legwork.

00:14:33.280 Tony Merkel.

00:14:35.760 We came along, and we took it and made it almost enter, like, meme culture.

00:14:41.880 Yay.

00:14:42.280 We made it gay and funny.

00:14:44.520 And then there's something to that, right?

00:14:47.340 Like, you want to move culture, you're not going to move it by reading Rothbard, necessarily.

00:14:53.180 Although, I don't know, you had, who's the previous owner of Twitter?

00:14:57.160 Jack, right?

00:14:57.800 He had, at one point, kind of posted that he read this.

00:15:01.860 And it's like, okay, but that comes and goes.

00:15:04.160 Elon Musk, on the other hand, is using memes.

00:15:06.920 And they're boomer memes, sure, but they make some people laugh,

00:15:11.460 and he's moving culture with it.

00:15:13.240 So you've got to make, if you want to move someone's mind or change their mind,

00:15:17.980 you've got to make them laugh.

00:15:19.600 You have to offend them.

00:15:20.500 And I think that we've been, I've done a great job of offending.

00:15:24.060 I think we've done a fucking good job at offending people and making them laugh a little bit.

00:15:27.760 So trying to change your mind on that subject.

00:15:30.180 So what was that at the mall?

00:15:32.500 What actually happened?

00:15:33.980 Because I do remember seeing some stories about it and how it shut down,

00:15:37.640 and people were like, this is weird.

00:15:39.280 And I was just kind of, I kind of glanced at it and was like, huh, yeah, that's strange.

00:15:46.120 And then went on about my business.

00:15:48.260 I didn't look in any detail.

00:15:49.760 So what did happen there in Miami?

00:15:51.640 So there's some, like there's videos of like a store camera, and this one looks fake.

00:15:58.320 There's some videos of people from like above in their penthouses or their apartments,

00:16:03.360 and they're recording outside, and you see like dark, tall dark shadows running through across,

00:16:09.480 like inside of the police perimeter.

00:16:11.840 The official narrative, and these dark shadows are not like people.

00:16:15.960 There's something, it's weird.

00:16:17.300 It's like either it's put there artificially, but it's, I don't know, it's weird.

00:16:22.420 The official narrative was black teens with sticks or something like that.

00:16:26.500 Like, you know, firecrackers, fire with firecrackers.

00:16:29.280 Yeah, that they were doing something there.

00:16:31.020 I'm like, no, that's not what happened here.

00:16:33.400 This video pointed out really, like in a great way that there was only police that were part of the response.

00:16:40.900 There was an unprecedented amount of police vehicles responding to this situation.

00:16:45.440 But it is not normal to not have additional emergency vehicles alongside.

00:16:51.140 Meaning if you're responding to something that requires that much of a police intervention,

00:16:55.460 then you're going to also rally ambulance and potentially fire truck just to be safe.

00:17:00.800 They're always going to do these things.

00:17:01.880 It's just, you know, Top has a cousin who works for the fire department,

00:17:06.160 and he was actually the guy that brought it to Top's attention that was like,

00:17:08.940 this is very strange.

00:17:09.880 This is not what you would typically do.

00:17:11.980 And so the other things that are strange about this, like Top said,

00:17:15.820 the official narrative is black teenagers with firecrackers.

00:17:18.800 They shut down the airspace above that mall.

00:17:21.940 They also, there was a blackout at the same time.

00:17:25.460 That extended all the way to, and an internet outage.

00:17:28.080 A confirmed blackout because, like I said, Clint worked in the, he lives in the area.

00:17:32.420 And he told, he didn't have internet, didn't have, I think he might have had electricity,

00:17:35.740 but internet was out.

00:17:36.600 People closer to it didn't have electricity.

00:17:38.120 So this was a shutdown.

00:17:39.740 And it was just a police perimeter where they shut this down over teens with fireworks.

00:17:44.300 I mean, hilarious, racist euphemism.

00:17:46.280 But I, like, I'm going to choose the other narrative.

00:17:49.080 Maybe, maybe before I'd run in and trash, you know, some racism here, but no.

00:17:56.600 Not going to let you be racist and lie your way out of this.

00:17:59.340 There's no way that happened.

00:18:00.540 And to the point, or to your question, Tommy, it's like, well, what happened there?

00:18:05.200 I don't think we really know.

00:18:06.960 We can only look at that situation as significant for the reasons that we just listed.

00:18:10.820 And also, for the reason that this narrative escapes and catches fire, goes kind of viral,

00:18:19.380 that there are Nephilim entities at the mall, which is like, of all the things you could

00:18:26.380 have said, like Top said, you could have said alien, and nobody would have thought that

00:18:30.680 that was strange.

00:18:31.900 Nephilim is certainly not a word that a lot of people are familiar with.

00:18:36.260 Um, and so that's really all we're left with is that there was a strange event.

00:18:42.180 There was a disproportionate police response for teenagers with firecrackers.

00:18:45.620 There was no additional, uh, emergency vehicles.

00:18:48.860 They shut down the airspace.

00:18:50.280 The power went out and the internet went down for some notable amount of time.

00:18:54.480 And like all things, eventually, you know, it just keeps spinning and you move on from

00:19:01.100 it.

00:19:01.540 Uh, so it was definitely, it was definitely a disproportionate response from the police.

00:19:07.400 And you would think if it were teens with firecrackers, that they would be worried about

00:19:11.560 a fire.

00:19:12.060 So the fire department would be on hand.

00:19:15.380 Right.

00:19:16.320 Right.

00:19:16.700 So it would be at least one fire truck, but at least one fire truck.

00:19:20.140 I mean, you just wouldn't bother.

00:19:21.740 They, the response was insane.

00:19:23.980 People that lived there said they had never seen a turnout of police vehicles in that way.

00:19:28.340 Um, the idea that you would cause such chaos, you know, when we're talking about the roads

00:19:33.680 and that you wouldn't ahead of time, get some additional, um, there you go.

00:19:39.960 Get some additional emergency vehicles on hand is very strange.

00:19:44.000 Can you guys see what I'm showing you?

00:19:45.640 Yeah.

00:19:45.840 Those are, those are all police cars.

00:19:47.520 And I mean, in the video, can't find the video, but they're lined up like way down the

00:19:51.820 Bay area.

00:19:52.420 Only police cars, two rows of them.

00:19:54.620 That's right.

00:19:56.120 Unprecedented.

00:19:56.520 Uncircled by the way.

00:19:57.720 Um, you can't see it.

00:19:58.860 It looks like a nothing in that image when it's, when it's a freeze frame.

00:20:01.860 But when you watch the video, that thing that was in the red circle was pacing back and forth.

00:20:06.020 It was very strange.

00:20:06.940 And there's a lot of, larger than the cars.

00:20:09.740 Yeah.

00:20:10.300 There's a lot of conventional explanations for that.

00:20:12.780 It could just be the way that the shadows are playing from all the light that's being

00:20:15.600 projected around that.

00:20:16.340 That's fine.

00:20:16.960 I'm open to all of that, but I'm not open to the idea that you would dismiss this event

00:20:22.080 as children with firecrackers when we just listed all the crazy things.

00:20:26.540 People that were there in the area certainly saw fit to post this on the internet.

00:20:31.700 And with a sense of urgency, I've never seen this turnout of police vehicles before, you

00:20:37.360 know, and then all of a sudden this narrative hits.

00:20:38.920 I think there's something very strange.

00:20:40.320 It's like the truth lies somewhere in between the official narrative and, and the first stories

00:20:47.500 that emerge.

00:20:48.300 I mean, of course, unless you're looking at like 9-11, in which case, remember when they

00:20:51.900 were saying there was bombs in the buildings and then that narrative goes away.

00:20:55.240 And in hindsight, you look back to that and go, maybe there was some credence to that.

00:20:57.900 So that's just where we landed in that moment.

00:21:00.460 But I think that's when Top and I looked at each other and we've, that was probably when

00:21:03.700 we first realized we were in the right place at the right time saying the right thing.

00:21:07.800 And that's been the trend ever since.

00:21:09.840 And let's, let's talk about what the Nephilim are.

00:21:12.060 I mean, you did a brief overview, but there's a lot more than just the Genesis 6 idea.

00:21:17.500 Of what the Nephilim are.

00:21:18.540 There's a lot of, uh, apocrypha.

00:21:20.120 There's a lot of stories, a lot of lore that goes with it.

00:21:22.340 And it's told across every, uh, religion, every mythology, every culture.

00:21:28.020 There is some sort of form of what we, what we call a Nephilim.

00:21:32.580 What, what, what you call a demon is a Nephilim.

00:21:37.280 So to go back, you know, the sons of man, uh, the sons of God, which are the fallen angels

00:21:43.800 or the people will call them the Anunnaki, or we, we argue that they might even be like

00:21:49.800 the Greek pantheon or some of the gods of, um, India, you know, Hindu gods, things like

00:21:55.140 that.

00:21:55.620 Norse gods.

00:21:56.360 They all share characteristics, but we'll touch back on that.

00:21:59.240 So, um, they, the God, the sons of sons of God came into the daughters of man and literally

00:22:06.760 came into them.

00:22:07.540 Um, how they did it, I don't know, Timothy Albarino, he has some interesting views that

00:22:11.700 like, maybe there was a bargain, you know, back then you'd give your daughter's hand in

00:22:16.720 marriage for something technology, uh, you know, secrets, agriculture.

00:22:22.820 And when you read the book of Enoch, it describes the different fallen angels that came down and

00:22:27.900 did give this knowledge to people like, uh, the fallen angel Azazel would get, he gave the

00:22:32.220 knowledge of like metallurgy and war and agriculture and eye magic, which is makeup.

00:22:38.400 Uh, so again, mythology, but you can also go through different cultures and there's different

00:22:43.100 names that have done the same thing.

00:22:45.580 And like, you know, they're, they're the God of this, but really, when you look at pictures

00:22:49.680 of their depiction, when you look at their depictions, how other people have drawn them,

00:22:53.960 how these ancient cultures have drawn them, there's overlaps.

00:22:56.440 There's overlaps with how the Christian culture would draw, would have drew them or the Hebrew

00:23:00.100 culture would have drew, drew these entities and deities.

00:23:03.240 So these are the parents, they bang the woman because everyone likes, you know, human pussy.

00:23:11.320 And, uh, there's also something special about people, you know, it's made in the image of

00:23:15.940 God.

00:23:16.360 And these are fallen angels who fell out of the grace of God and they actually have a little

00:23:21.780 something against them.

00:23:22.660 Go figure.

00:23:23.460 So his creation, these women, they're going to defile it and they're going to create their

00:23:27.600 own creation.

00:23:28.260 They're going to mimic the, uh, the, the prophecy of Jesus, right?

00:23:32.840 So Jesus is made by God, but then comes out of a woman.

00:23:37.160 So it's, it's, it's, again, it's like this defilement.

00:23:39.680 It's this, uh, upside down, disgusting version of, of, of a perfect, of an immaculate conception.

00:23:47.280 And that creates the Nephilim.

00:23:49.240 So the Nephilim are on the days before the flood and after.

00:23:54.080 That's what it says, uh, God sent the flood, wiped most of them out, but they still exist

00:24:01.120 in some form or fashion.

00:24:02.860 Some survive, but the big ones I think are, are gone because they talk about these, these

00:24:09.240 men of renown, these mighty men, like huge giants, cannibalistic giants that were eating

00:24:14.080 the people.

00:24:14.580 The people are just completely subservient.

00:24:16.320 They've, they've ruled the earth and every corner of it is really not much people could

00:24:19.960 have done at this point, which is why the flood may have happened.

00:24:23.720 And that's like, this is what we glean from when we're reading, uh, you know, when we're

00:24:28.280 reading the, the flood myth about, about no, or not the myth, just the story of the flood

00:24:33.240 where it says, no, it was perfect in his generations.

00:24:36.540 Well, you, you can use, you can use the word myth in its original form, which is like the

00:24:41.820 origin story is basically what myth means.

00:24:44.120 So yeah, you can definitely use that word.

00:24:46.340 Right.

00:24:46.740 Yeah.

00:24:46.840 I say it because it's the same story.

00:24:48.840 The story of a flood is the same as all these other ancient myths or mythology.

00:24:53.120 It's, it's all the same stuff, just rebranded told differently.

00:24:55.800 So, um, no, it was perfect in his generations and that's why him and his family were spared.

00:25:03.240 Now people argue like the standard Christian would argue, well, he was perfect, which,

00:25:09.660 you know, the rest of the world, the man was wicked and awful.

00:25:13.580 And that's why God had to kill all these people and restart the earth.

00:25:17.820 We say, you know, man was wicked and awful.

00:25:20.880 Look at like stories of like Sodom and Gomorrah, but God didn't, uh, punish.

00:25:27.140 He didn't punish man in this way.

00:25:28.740 He didn't, he didn't try to kill everybody on earth because the man was wicked.

00:25:33.240 The man was, uh, compromised in their genome, which is what I, what I truly believe.

00:25:39.400 Like the idea of the Nephilim seed spreading throughout humankind was just too overwhelming.

00:25:46.480 The, the powers that be the Nephilim giant powers that be had taken over the earth and

00:25:51.520 there had to be some kind of a, a reset.

00:25:54.060 You know, we had to do a, a, a great reset on the earth.

00:25:58.460 By the way, to top's point about this idea of people are going, oh, well, Noah was, was

00:26:02.920 perfect.

00:26:03.340 And that's what it meant.

00:26:04.000 He was just, and he was, and he was, you know, and it's like, well, the Bible talks about

00:26:07.960 him, uh, being basically a raging alcoholic and an adulterer.

00:26:12.540 So, um, that doesn't really link up that well.

00:26:15.340 And that notion just comes from our attempt to understand the phrase perfect in his generations.

00:26:21.960 That's, that's all it, that's what it says.

00:26:23.820 The same thing is, uh, one thing, the same thing is said about David and we all know the

00:26:28.800 stories of David, you know, having, uh, his mistress's husband killed, um, by sending

00:26:34.600 them on the front lines and stuff like that.

00:26:36.260 And from what I understand, uh, at least from the Orthodox tradition, it, it's saying that

00:26:42.020 he repented, that he was repentant of his sins.

00:26:45.780 And that's why it says he was perfect, that he was seen like without blemish, uh, because

00:26:52.080 he had, he had fully repented.

00:26:54.680 Uh, so that, that's my understanding of that.

00:26:58.040 Now I did want to ask on the Nephilim, um, one of the things that, um, I don't know if

00:27:02.780 y'all have heard of the podcast, Lord of spirits.

00:27:05.080 I've not now.

00:27:06.380 Okay.

00:27:06.700 So it's a, it's an Orthodox podcast, but what they do is they, it's these two Orthodox priests

00:27:11.880 that dive deep into the, the old lore of, of tradition and where, and like when the Bible

00:27:19.920 was written.

00:27:20.900 And so they, they dive really deep into the history.

00:27:24.180 One of the things that you hear about Nephilim is there are two thirds, God, one third man.

00:27:29.800 Now, is that something that y'all dig into and that y'all like, uh, like kind of like

00:27:35.560 experimented, like trying to think about.

00:27:38.240 I haven't necessarily gone into the ratio, like the specific ratio, but it does.

00:27:41.880 It does seem to me that like your stories of Greek demigods and such, um, and this goes

00:27:47.940 ever, it's not just Greek mythology, right?

00:27:49.720 We're talking about Sumer and everything else.

00:27:51.360 It's, it's the same thing.

00:27:53.220 There's, it's a tale as old as time.

00:27:54.820 It's funny because it even echoes itself.

00:27:56.680 You'll see it over and over again, um, in, in modern media.

00:28:00.580 Uh, but this idea that there's this elevated being of some sort that has relations with a

00:28:07.280 human woman.

00:28:07.820 And then they give birth to, I mean, that's, that's the thing in, uh, in the Marvel comics,

00:28:12.160 when it comes to guardian of the galaxy, right?

00:28:14.000 You have Peter Quill, uh, is the offspring of some like greater celestial character and

00:28:20.580 a human woman.

00:28:21.400 This like repeats itself over and over again.

00:28:23.640 So the idea of like two thirds, God, one third human being.

00:28:27.440 Um, yeah, maybe I, it makes sense.

00:28:30.240 It would, it would make sense to me because, um, as the Bible goes on, they're called something

00:28:34.720 different.

00:28:35.100 So they're Nephilim and they're Raphaim and then there's a gibberim, which gibberim seems

00:28:40.500 like, uh, something you can turn into.

00:28:43.140 If I'm, if I'm not mistaken, these are, uh, when it's, when it starts breaking it down like

00:28:48.520 that, it's breaking down the different tribes.

00:28:50.760 If I, if I remember correctly, there seems to be some precedent for that, but also in

00:28:55.520 the fact that there is a concerted amount of fallen angels.

00:28:59.640 So what you're going to have over and over again, if there is a Nephilim that, uh, is,

00:29:04.160 you know, interbreeding with humans continuously, you're going to have a watering down of that.

00:29:08.680 We talked to people who, um, you know, they, they maintain that, that bloodline still exists

00:29:14.640 today, but it's lost its potency to such a degree that, you know, you would not see

00:29:19.400 discernible physical attributes that would stick out to you maybe upon further inspection

00:29:24.340 you would, but you know, we're not going to see.

00:29:27.120 Allegedly there is still room for 13, 14, 15, upwards of 20 foot tall, uh, giants, what

00:29:33.780 we would call giants, uh, when you have that in the Kandahar giant story from Afghanistan

00:29:38.140 and things like that.

00:29:39.500 Um, but that things have become so muddled that you wouldn't even know if they walked

00:29:46.900 amongst you.

00:29:47.480 So there's variations, there's varying degrees of it.

00:29:49.640 It depends.

00:29:50.340 It's like when you see these Royal bloodlines that are so concerned with maintaining their

00:29:55.200 bloodline, that they're practicing incest, even to the degree that they're all, you know,

00:30:00.140 freakish monsters.

00:30:01.340 Um, they're trying to do something.

00:30:03.720 They're trying to maintain something.

00:30:05.220 There does seem to be, um, maybe it was overlooked in the past, but there is a very important genetic

00:30:14.320 component to the Bible and following those genetics all the way to modern day.

00:30:19.780 Uh, you know, Gary Wayne calls it the, uh, the seed war was that LA Marzulli that calls

00:30:25.600 it the seed war.

00:30:26.520 There's this idea that there is the seed of man.

00:30:29.280 And then there is the seed of the serpent and that forever they would have enmity between

00:30:34.980 one another.

00:30:35.820 Uh, that's Genesis, uh, three 15.

00:30:38.420 Yeah.

00:30:38.760 So it'll say, it says, uh, he'll, uh, you'll, he'll, he'll crush your head, but you'll bruise

00:30:44.940 his heel.

00:30:45.460 And that's like a prophecy that's, it's, it's describing the seed war of, uh, the two, well,

00:30:52.140 the two, um, the two babies in one womb, which is actually interesting.

00:30:56.500 That leads into the story of Jacob and Esau, which are, that's a whole nother, I think we'll

00:31:00.660 get into that, but go ahead and continue, David.

00:31:02.720 So, I mean, yeah, as, as far as, um, you know, this precedent for whether or not they

00:31:08.920 would be specifically two thirds or anything like that.

00:31:11.820 I think that there are, we've gotten to the point where there's varying degrees.

00:31:15.320 What we're exploring now is this idea that even these hybrid creatures that you would

00:31:22.180 have seen in like the Egyptian pantheon, those are also by-products of this genetic manipulation.

00:31:31.420 Um, there seems to have been a time throughout history where there was a lot more technological

00:31:38.640 advancements being made, um, that ancient man might've had their hands on something that

00:31:43.680 would have been bequeathed to them from these, these entities, but that these entities had

00:31:47.320 a, a heyday that they just were inverting God's creation every which way possible.

00:31:51.740 So that means creating chimeric creatures.

00:31:55.380 Um, honestly, we've gotten so schizophrenic about the entire thing that it feels as though

00:32:01.620 these ideas of satyrs and centaurs, chimeras, and all these things, Anubis and Horus and,

00:32:07.940 and all of these entities, I believe have a real base in reality.

00:32:12.480 And I do think that where it talks about, um, times being as the days of Noah, you know,

00:32:18.820 in the end times, I think we're right back there because it's like, we're doing all of

00:32:22.160 this again.

00:32:23.160 Uh, there's all these shady government operations allegedly not happening in America, but China

00:32:28.740 doesn't seem to give a damn what they splice what with, you know what I mean?

00:32:31.800 It's like nothing new is under the sun.

00:32:34.060 We're doing all of the same shit over again.

00:32:36.180 So I would imagine that maybe there was a time where you could say like two thirds, like

00:32:41.860 if you're looking at like a Hercules, right.

00:32:43.540 It was the offspring.

00:32:43.960 Well, the reason, the reason I asked about that is because, um, one of the things that

00:32:48.320 they talk about on Lord of spirits is the ritual.

00:32:50.980 And it still takes place in Japan that I know of, but the ritual was, if you remember, they

00:32:57.720 looked at the leaders of countries as gods, right?

00:33:01.940 So you have one God there.

00:33:04.340 Then what they would do is they would get a harlot to come into the, the chamber.

00:33:09.860 So now you have a man.

00:33:12.120 So now you have one God, one man, right?

00:33:15.120 And the angel that presides over that.

00:33:16.660 Oh, and then, then, then they would do a ritual in where they were possessed by a God, which

00:33:24.100 is what, if you remember, that's what they called them lower, lower, uh, G God.

00:33:30.100 So they would get possessed by a God.

00:33:32.240 Now you have two gods, one man, they would then go into the chamber.

00:33:38.020 They would have intercourse.

00:33:40.240 She would get pregnant, have a baby from this ritual.

00:33:44.600 And that baby was then considered two thirds God, right?

00:33:49.060 And so that's where the whole idea of two thirds, God, one third man came from.

00:33:54.320 It was two gods impregnating a woman that was human.

00:34:00.120 So this is the, and this is a ritual that still takes place.

00:34:04.000 And they have found a bed, um, of, uh, that, that they used during this ritual.

00:34:09.260 And the bed was 15 foot long.

00:34:11.900 Yeah.

00:34:12.300 Okay.

00:34:12.540 I know what you're talking about.

00:34:13.440 Yep.

00:34:13.780 So I thought he was going to say the Jewish tunnel bed with a little bit of blood on it.

00:34:16.900 I'm like, no way to, no, that was Epstein's bed.

00:34:20.500 Um, but then no, you're, you're a hundred percent, uh, right.

00:34:24.940 These things, I would imagine Japan is just the one that like, you know, people are aware

00:34:29.900 of to whatever degree, I'm sure these things are still happening all the time.

00:34:32.880 And to the point of, of gods, um, even God says in the Bible that thou shall take no other

00:34:38.160 gods before me.

00:34:38.960 And it's like, what is the point of making that warning?

00:34:41.080 If there were no other gods, it's the first commandment.

00:34:44.140 Why is this his first, the first one?

00:34:45.820 Yeah, exactly.

00:34:46.700 Why is it so important that it's number one, if none of these things exist and it's like,

00:34:50.740 well, there, there are, there's just lesser gods, a bunch of lesser gods.

00:34:55.100 They're created upset with us because they go, oh, um, you believe that your God is real,

00:35:01.440 but, but our gods aren't real.

00:35:03.320 And I'm like, no, no, I believe that you're, I believe it.

00:35:05.580 Yeah.

00:35:06.300 There was a meme that went around that had, um, it had Jordan Peterson and Jonathan Pajot.

00:35:14.260 And it was like Jordan Peterson, given one of his biblical speeches.

00:35:19.360 And then Jonathan Pajot saying, of course, Zeus is exists.

00:35:23.580 And it was how it started, how it's going.

00:35:26.540 Yeah.

00:35:27.060 Yeah.

00:35:27.520 Well, that is kind of, that's honestly, that is how it started.

00:35:30.000 And that is how it's going.

00:35:31.360 Right.

00:35:31.840 Exactly.

00:35:32.200 I think that, you know, there is when top was talking earlier about the way that ancient

00:35:37.700 people would draw one God or another, and how there's a tremendous amount of overlap,

00:35:41.080 overlap, it seems that the, the name ball, uh, was sort of a title.

00:35:46.140 It meant like King.

00:35:47.260 Right.

00:35:47.820 And, um, so when you have Zeus and the, what's it called?

00:35:54.940 The, uh, the altar or the temple of Zeus, the altar at Pergamum that would have been found

00:36:01.540 in Turkey and in the Bible, it said that, uh, the throne of Satan was in Pergamum, which

00:36:10.260 is modern day Turkey, but it was, you know, you know, obviously ancient Turkey.

00:36:15.000 Uh, and that is where, you know, we've talked about this before.

00:36:17.660 This is where they got the, the, um, I forgot.

00:36:21.560 I feel like there's a name that I'm, I'm not catching right here.

00:36:25.300 Is it called the, uh, y'all hear all that noise I'm dealing with here?

00:36:30.040 No.

00:36:30.900 Oh, that's my dog trying to bust through the door.

00:36:34.020 Unbelievable.

00:36:34.580 I have the same thing with an obese cat that just seems to think that she can dig her way

00:36:38.800 through my door.

00:36:39.780 Um, so we talk about it a lot about how Hitler adopted not only much of the symbolism having

00:36:47.620 to do with Zeus in the way of like the Eagle and the Thunderbolts and things like that,

00:36:50.900 but also that his, um, his, uh, fairgrounds that he commissioned where he did all of his

00:36:57.560 speaking from, uh, was designed after the, the temple of Zeus, the altar at Pergamum.

00:37:03.980 Um, they had it in the Berlin museum and that's where he drew the inspiration for it.

00:37:08.040 So it was very strange how they seem to have a lot of like Zeus veneration, but it turns

00:37:11.160 out that you can go back to ancient Sumerian, you'll find an entity named Hadad.

00:37:15.820 Hadad is often pictured as having this essentially a Thunderbolt.

00:37:20.560 He's holding a Thunderbolt.

00:37:21.880 He is the, um, the God of storms among other things.

00:37:26.580 He hates the Jews.

00:37:27.780 It's crazy, but there's no shortage of that sort of a thing where you can draw these parallels.

00:37:34.160 Different cultures would have called them by different names.

00:37:37.120 You know, you would never go, we have a car, but a different in India, they call it something

00:37:43.100 else, but it's still a combustion engine with four wheels and a windshield.

00:37:46.700 Um, and you would go, well, these two things aren't the same thing.

00:37:49.880 And it's like, they are the same thing.

00:37:51.040 It's just a language barrier.

00:37:52.200 You know what I mean?

00:37:52.680 So, um, you can find that for countless different entities throughout history.

00:37:57.840 And I think that these are exactly who we're dealing with.

00:38:00.780 And to your point, yeah, they're, they're lowercase G gods.

00:38:03.300 Uh, they are the fallen.

00:38:05.000 So whenever people get upset, they're like, oh, you don't believe in it.

00:38:06.940 And I'm like, no, I dude, I do believe in it.

00:38:09.100 So much of Christianity has so much overlap with the Vedic belief system has so much overlap

00:38:16.360 with, you know, Timothy Albarino, we were just talking about, I believe a moment ago,

00:38:20.360 and he, he spends a lot of time in Peru studying, uh, studying the megalithic structures, you

00:38:25.100 know, Machu Picchu and such.

00:38:26.660 And the government of Peru, who by the way, has become really disenchanted with like this

00:38:31.720 ancient aliens narrator or narrative to the point where they'll question you as to what

00:38:37.680 you're doing there, what your interests are.

00:38:39.180 And if you say anything, ancient aliens are going to be pretty rude with you, but they

00:38:43.320 have one notion of how these megalithic structures were made.

00:38:47.040 They just say it was the Inca.

00:38:48.580 It was our predecessor, uh, predecessors.

00:38:50.340 But if you ask people who are, um, actual descendants of the natives of Peru, uh, who still

00:38:55.960 live off the beaten path, aren't part of like the cities and everything, according to Timothy

00:39:00.240 Albarino, they will tell you stories that, um, number one, the Inca found those megalithic

00:39:06.240 structures.

00:39:06.680 They were already there.

00:39:07.760 And the way that they say they came about was that they were built by a race of giants.

00:39:14.300 These megalithic structures were built by a race of giants.

00:39:17.200 These giants, however, were evil and cannibalistic.

00:39:20.180 I guess it's fair to say cannibalistic because they are part human, right?

00:39:23.100 If we're talking about the Nephilim, if we are actually talking about the same entities

00:39:25.900 and that they were killed in a giant flood that was sent by like the creator God, like,

00:39:33.800 oh, where have I heard that before?

00:39:35.000 It's the same story.

00:39:36.100 And you'll find this over and over again.

00:39:38.400 The only differentiation that I care to make is that oftentimes these other cultures look

00:39:44.680 to the lowercase g gods with veneration.

00:39:47.320 And that's a mistake.

00:39:48.700 That's it.

00:39:49.720 That's all it is.

00:39:50.460 And you can't even say like, you know, Catholicism has archangels and everything, but you, I don't

00:39:55.160 think you should venerate them because that is the exact thing that tempted the one third

00:39:59.720 of angels to fall in the first place.

00:40:01.820 Well, and even in the, in, in the, uh, Bible, um, I believe it's in, uh, Psalms.

00:40:07.720 There's, there's, there's a verse that speaks of the gods of the nations and, um, it's talking

00:40:15.480 about from what I, from what I remember now, I I'm not completely polished on my Bible studies,

00:40:22.120 but which is a major flaw of mine.

00:40:25.040 But, um, from what I remember, what it's talking about is that God had put angels in charge of

00:40:32.660 these nations and that, um, the, the, the citizens of the nation went from venerating

00:40:40.620 the, the angels to worshiping the angels and whether or not that angel was a fallen angel

00:40:46.720 or not was dependent on how that angel reacted to that worship.

00:40:50.800 And if that angel did like the angel that came to Mary and was like, no, you don't worship

00:40:55.420 me, you know, kind of deal.

00:40:57.180 Then they, they remained an angel.

00:41:00.200 Otherwise, then they became a fallen angel.

00:41:01.960 They became a demon.

00:41:02.940 They became the demons of the nations, you know?

00:41:05.900 And so these stories have go on for, for generations.

00:41:12.740 So that's Psalm 96, five or four to five says for the Lord is great and greatly to be praised.

00:41:18.760 That's actually a song that we used to sing.

00:41:20.180 It used to be feared above all gods, lowercase G for all the gods of the nation are idols,

00:41:26.260 but the Lord, uh, but the Lord made the heavens.

00:41:28.980 So yeah, it's just, again, but this is what the people asked for.

00:41:32.260 The Jewish people constantly asking for a king and God told them, no, he told them no

00:41:36.560 every time.

00:41:37.220 And like, we really want a king.

00:41:38.700 He said, fine, here's your king.

00:41:40.220 And it never ends up quite the way they want it.

00:41:41.960 But whenever he designates a king, there is always an angel in this territory above them.

00:41:47.300 So that angel is put there, whether the angel falls or not.

00:41:50.520 I think that's up to the people and the angel.

00:41:52.720 And, uh, it seems to be the same story over and over.

00:41:54.960 That really highlights something that top brings up all the time.

00:41:58.400 And I, and, and I think he's right over the target when he does.

00:42:01.980 This is like, God is omnipresent, but these other entities, they rule over localities.

00:42:09.800 They're not omnipresent.

00:42:11.720 And so that goes into a whole plethora of things.

00:42:15.220 It opens up this door to why you'll even see, let's say cryptids, for example, in one

00:42:20.120 area, but not in another area.

00:42:22.400 God is the only one that's omnipresent.

00:42:24.000 All these other things do seem to be relegated to a physical location.

00:42:28.920 We've got, you've got a cat people, Jin, on the East of the world, like, uh, you know,

00:42:35.420 in, in the Middle Eastern countries, this is their kind of supernatural phenomenon that

00:42:38.840 they'll talk about.

00:42:39.460 And then over here, you've got Bigfoot dog, man.

00:42:43.020 That's the divide.

00:42:43.980 Like you've got cat people and dog, man on either side of, of this giant ocean because

00:42:49.380 it's a different locality.

00:42:50.320 So whatever spirituality is going on, it's a different God.

00:42:52.840 It seems like they have the same goal, but in the end, uh, they they'll, they'll ultimately

00:42:58.380 probably work together.

00:42:59.200 You know, if, if you believe in end times prophecy, the book of revelation in that final

00:43:02.880 battle, I think that it'll be one side versus the other, but right now they're just kind

00:43:07.220 of all moving in different directions and doing whatever they feel like.

00:43:13.180 So, all right.

00:43:14.660 So I, all, all of this kind of leads me into my, my next question.

00:43:18.940 Have y'all read a book called, um, the UFO delusion?

00:43:22.840 Uh, by father spirit and Bailey.

00:43:26.000 No, but I can almost imagine where he's going.

00:43:28.800 And I, I was at an Orthodox Orthodox priest.

00:43:31.480 Yes.

00:43:31.920 Okay.

00:43:32.760 Yeah.

00:43:33.400 So, so father Sarah from Rose had, had written a book.

00:43:37.780 Uh, I can't remember the name of the book.

00:43:39.680 I have it here somewhere.

00:43:41.140 Anyway, Sarah from Rose.

00:43:42.020 I know I've heard of him.

00:43:43.020 Uh, so his name, sorry.

00:43:47.360 Uh, the, the guy from a counter.

00:43:50.180 Wow.

00:43:51.120 Counter for Buck, Buck, Buck Johnson.

00:43:53.700 Yeah.

00:43:53.880 He was telling us about, yeah, we got to have him, uh, back on.

00:43:56.940 Hey, um, do you mind real quick?

00:43:58.660 I just have to, I'll be back in 30 seconds.

00:44:00.140 He's got a mixed ketchup in the, yo, go ahead, man.

00:44:02.120 I don't have to mix ketchup.

00:44:02.600 I have to pee so bad.

00:44:03.500 I'll be right back.

00:44:03.880 As long as you don't come back with your dick in a bun.

00:44:07.300 I just drizzled nicely.

00:44:09.060 So yeah.

00:44:12.980 Tell me about the book.

00:44:14.160 Okay.

00:44:14.460 So the UFO delusion, um, it was, it was taken out of a, he father, uh, spirit and Bailey

00:44:20.560 had taken like the church fathers, their ideas of what aliens were.

00:44:25.040 And then, uh, from, uh, father Sarah from Rose's book.

00:44:29.600 And he had, he had written this book called the UFO delusion.

00:44:32.520 And it's all about how aliens are actually demons.

00:44:35.520 Now we heard Tucker Carlson starting to parrot very similar talking points where he got the

00:44:43.260 information from a different place.

00:44:44.660 If you trace the, uh, the church fathers, uh, uh, of the Christian faith back to the times

00:44:53.140 of Christ, this is what they believed.

00:44:55.560 They believe that aliens were demons, that these were actual spiritual beings that were

00:45:01.380 interacting with humanity, much like we're talking about with the Nephilim.

00:45:07.360 So, um, this, this was, is something that I believe Tucker Carlson uncovered by accident.

00:45:15.280 And he kind of stumbled into this.

00:45:17.460 And I think this is him going around talking about this so openly and getting so much public

00:45:24.200 attention.

00:45:24.640 And I believe this is why he was attacked by demons in his sleep.

00:45:31.500 So you're talking to me, he's, he's just talking about our favorite shit, David Tucker

00:45:35.020 Carlson, Tucker, yeah, Tucker Carlson.

00:45:37.300 This is like when the first time we got on, uh, Luke Rakowski show, uh, the best political

00:45:42.720 podcast, it was that day that Tucker Carlson was, uh, or that the week of where he's, he's

00:45:48.140 discussing, um, how America has lost his sense of spirituality.

00:45:51.420 And that these things that are, you know, aliens are possibly entities and nefarious

00:45:56.600 ones and such and such, but we've kind of been on this for a while.

00:46:00.620 And like all the stuff that we said about Nephilim before it's, I guess it's foreplay

00:46:04.300 to be like, yo, they're demons, bro.

00:46:06.180 But like, that doesn't go over well.

00:46:08.980 Like if I just meet you, be like, let me tell you about the Nephilim.

00:46:11.160 They're fucking demons and they're aliens too, man.

00:46:13.960 It's like, but it is though.

00:46:15.760 Like, I think it is.

00:46:16.820 We just, David calls it all the time.

00:46:18.920 He's like, it's just a rebranding of the same thing.

00:46:21.080 Like, uh, the Aleister Crowley story where he goes to the desert and he summons an entity.

00:46:26.220 Um, is it called, uh, I don't know.

00:46:28.860 It's called lamb.

00:46:29.780 I don't know if he saw that, if that was the one there was a was and there was lamb.

00:46:33.060 One of them he saw in the great pyramids for whatever reason, he was allowed to go in the

00:46:35.980 great pyramids and do like a whole workings in there.

00:46:39.000 Um, and then there was another one that he contacted.

00:46:41.080 This wouldn't have been in the desert.

00:46:42.120 This would have been actually in a cabin somewhere.

00:46:43.840 I think in upstate New York, uh, he was, he was, uh, communing with, and I think that's

00:46:48.640 actually where he saw lamb, but yeah, to, to top's point, if you look at the image that

00:46:51.580 Aleister Crowley, who is the, you know, the wickedest man alive, uh, more or less the

00:46:56.040 father of modern day, uh, yeah, exactly.

00:47:02.040 Yeah.

00:47:02.640 Uh, who managed to really wedge his way into pop culture in such a strange way, but just

00:47:07.260 the cultism.

00:47:07.840 I mean, like, you know, a lot of people attribute this like spooky shit and it's kind of spooky,

00:47:11.460 but the guy was, he knew exactly what he was doing and all of his stuff was done with intention.

00:47:16.700 Oh yeah.

00:47:17.320 And yeah, it's, it's important to not just like throw him away as like guard.

00:47:21.680 He's garbage, but it's important.

00:47:24.420 You think.

00:47:25.120 Yeah.

00:47:25.580 Like, but we have to pay attention to what he was doing.

00:47:27.520 Cause it's important.

00:47:28.400 If we want to know where we're, how we're supposed to move and what we're supposed to do.

00:47:32.000 You have to understand what this guy is doing.

00:47:33.940 Do you have that image again, top, by the way, the Miami mall, because I believe you

00:47:37.120 slapped a lamb straight in the middle of it.

00:47:39.440 And I just, I think it's a great thing to show people because it's like, this was the

00:47:43.040 first rendition of what we recognize today as like the modern day gray.

00:47:47.500 And I think what's also important to recognize about our perception of UFOs.

00:47:54.060 There's two things I want to say on the topic.

00:47:55.840 One is it's very clear that now that the government is taking an interest, we're probably going

00:48:00.180 someplace soon where they're going to reveal something to us.

00:48:02.740 And we actually just finished doing an episode where we anticipate that December 3rd, we

00:48:07.440 might actually see something very strange in the skies, but there is a soft disclosure

00:48:13.340 happening over a few years now since 2017, when all of a sudden the government told you

00:48:18.420 that it's okay to, there you go.

00:48:19.920 I mean, that thing is clearly, that's the image that Alistair Crowley would have drawn

00:48:23.600 of lamb and absent the gigantic black eyes, that is an alien gray for all intents and

00:48:29.280 purposes.

00:48:29.600 And so there does seem to be this moment in time that we're coming towards where they're

00:48:35.820 going to reveal something or another to us.

00:48:37.920 But I want to remind people that our only perception of ETs, aliens, UFOs, it comes from

00:48:47.740 Hollywood, which is to say it comes from the propaganda machine.

00:48:51.960 The devil himself.

00:48:52.820 Oh, yes.

00:48:53.180 The devil himself.

00:48:53.920 Correct.

00:48:54.620 So I just want to temper people with that.

00:48:57.100 It's like, you know, a lot of people have these ideas about whether or not my, my favorite

00:49:01.880 narrative is they are, they're our benign space brothers who have come to stop us from

00:49:10.080 like mutually assured destruction, who have come to stop us from destroying our own planet

00:49:14.840 with, you know, climate and pollution related issues.

00:49:18.640 They seem to have taken an interest in our nuclear facilities.

00:49:21.400 There's these stories of them shutting down, you know, nuclear facilities, shutting down

00:49:27.840 bombs and missiles, all kinds of shit like that.

00:49:29.800 The military is the leading force in sort of this disclosure, right?

00:49:34.300 That's what we've been seeing.

00:49:35.160 We've been seeing Air Force officials and things like that in these hearings.

00:49:39.100 We just sat at the, you know, what was it a week ago?

00:49:42.660 The second congressional hearing on UAPs ever.

00:49:45.820 So I was like, should we see the time dilation is crazy.

00:49:49.320 That was like a month ago.

00:49:51.100 Maybe.

00:49:52.100 So I mean, it just feels strange to me that we're at this, the edge of something in my

00:49:59.400 estimation, but like we don't, we don't have any actual opinions on them that weren't formed

00:50:03.480 by Hollywood.

00:50:04.240 I mean, there are some people who have done some research, but generally speaking, the

00:50:07.120 general public, it's the movies that we get and then mixed with some information that

00:50:11.780 the government disseminates to us, which is hilarious.

00:50:14.540 So, um, yeah, I, I do think that when top was talking about this rebranding thing, the

00:50:19.480 way that I often put it is like, imagine you have a pharmaceutical company that releases

00:50:22.800 an experimental drug, gives an alarming amount of people cancer and kills them.

00:50:27.140 And it's so big that they can't sweep it under the rug.

00:50:29.100 And the publicity is so bad about it.

00:50:31.340 Um, they decide to dissolve, but just reappear under a different company name that doesn't

00:50:38.020 have all that baggage.

00:50:39.280 It's a rebranding.

00:50:40.320 The public doesn't know they're not the ones that gave you ass cancer.

00:50:42.680 That was the other people.

00:50:43.420 And so in a lot of ways, I think that's what's happening here.

00:50:47.180 Honestly, I think that's been the whole point of this obsession in the sci-fi community in

00:50:54.920 Hollywood.

00:50:55.800 It's been a very long journey over decades and decades to try to temper the American

00:51:03.500 public with ideas, manufactured ideas about what these things are.

00:51:07.400 So when they finally do present themselves, we have an idea.

00:51:11.940 We go, okay, that's what this is.

00:51:13.460 Oh, they are here to stop us from killing each other with nukes.

00:51:16.900 Oh, they are here to give us advanced technology.

00:51:19.500 Not, oh, they are the machinations.

00:51:23.320 And I mean that literally.

00:51:24.160 I almost, I'm almost all in on the idea that alien greys are biomechanical husks that these

00:51:32.880 entities, because Top's been telling you that, that the Nephilim are demon in the book of

00:51:37.440 Enoch.

00:51:37.920 It says that when they die, their spirits are cursed to roam this world.

00:51:42.300 They don't ascend anywhere.

00:51:43.580 They're just stuck here.

00:51:44.500 And they are disembodied.

00:51:46.140 They're disembodied and they're demons.

00:51:48.440 And so they can only interact with our realm in a limited way.

00:51:53.460 They do it typically through our own psychology, whispering to us and nudging us here or there,

00:51:58.360 answering our dreams.

00:51:59.740 And hey, go build CERN.

00:52:01.340 Yeah.

00:52:01.580 It's like, okay.

00:52:02.300 Yeah.

00:52:02.880 Exactly.

00:52:03.960 But they cannot interact in a physical way.

00:52:06.720 These things, these greys, they don't have any sexual reproductive organs.

00:52:11.200 They don't have seemingly any emotion.

00:52:13.460 They're automatons.

00:52:14.740 That's basically what people report.

00:52:16.660 They stink.

00:52:17.060 And I think that they are something that they can inhabit for a limited amount of time and

00:52:22.820 interact with our realm in a limited physical way.

00:52:25.540 But honestly, the name of the game has always been the same as it was back then, genetic

00:52:30.820 manipulation.

00:52:31.540 That's what these things are obsessed with.

00:52:33.580 Every time they abduct someone, it's all about, you know, mysterious pregnancies and babies

00:52:39.180 that were there, but then disappear.

00:52:40.620 People are seeing, you know, children with big black eyes that seem to be their children.

00:52:45.500 Uh, and so I think that it's the same old shit, a lot of butt stuff too, but they're trying

00:52:52.180 to rebrand them as something different.

00:52:54.120 Have y'all talked to Rachel Wilson?

00:53:00.180 Is it Rachel Wilson or Karen?

00:53:02.800 No, no, no.

00:53:03.260 Rachel Wilson.

00:53:04.080 Rachel Wilson.

00:53:05.220 She wrote a book on feminism.

00:53:08.180 Yeah.

00:53:08.360 We had her, we actually had her schedule to talk to.

00:53:10.840 And then, uh, that's right.

00:53:11.960 That's why she's familiar.

00:53:13.040 It dropped through.

00:53:13.780 I'll just say it out here.

00:53:15.080 She was like very nasty to one of our friends and that, like, it kind of dropped through

00:53:18.940 and I just never rebooked her, but I was like, I wanted to talk to her.

00:53:22.180 I just, I don't know.

00:53:22.880 I felt like there was a little bit of a conflict of like, why are you so mean?

00:53:28.380 Cause she's, she has great work.

00:53:29.960 Cause she's married to Andrew Wilson.

00:53:31.680 That's why she's so mean.

00:53:33.020 That's, that's her defense.

00:53:34.600 Makes sense.

00:53:34.900 But, um, but no, she, her book is, is really fascinating.

00:53:40.600 I have it somewhere around here.

00:53:42.600 Um, but one of the things she talks about, um, is, um, is feminism was based off of a

00:53:52.620 Hindu goddess and this Hindu goddess has like four arms and she's like, she wears a

00:53:59.920 necklace of men's heads and like blood dripping.

00:54:04.440 And like, and she talks about how feminism is like, comes from this, this spirit, something

00:54:11.720 I forget what her name is.

00:54:12.860 I can't remember, man.

00:54:14.060 I, I, I'm not good with my Hindu.

00:54:16.360 So is it Kali?

00:54:18.080 Kali?

00:54:18.400 Kali.

00:54:18.860 Kali.

00:54:19.300 Yeah.

00:54:19.600 Kali.

00:54:20.080 Yeah.

00:54:20.840 Yeah.

00:54:21.240 Let's see if we can put a picture up.

00:54:22.640 Yeah, dude.

00:54:23.220 It's, it's fun to, uh, think about it, uh, as like a, like a joke, right?

00:54:28.840 Yeah.

00:54:28.980 Yeah.

00:54:29.140 This blue.

00:54:29.440 So again, another blue skinned entity that just feast on the flesh of human beings, uh,

00:54:35.980 actually our, our friend, uh, Paul Stobbs of understanding conspiracy.

00:54:40.380 Oh, he's great on that.

00:54:41.860 Yeah.

00:54:42.140 I mean, if you can get them on this show, you would, you would love it, but he, he makes

00:54:45.120 the argument and has a book that.

00:54:46.840 Who is that?

00:54:47.840 Paul Stobbs.

00:54:49.020 Of a show called understanding conspiracy.

00:54:50.980 He is a fantastic.

00:54:52.820 His research is thorough.

00:54:54.420 He's like a necklace.

00:54:55.680 That's a necklace.

00:54:57.500 Is it Stobbs?

00:55:00.120 Yeah.

00:55:00.360 I believe it's two B's.

00:55:01.120 Yeah.

00:55:01.640 Okay.

00:55:02.660 Yeah.

00:55:02.900 Yeah.

00:55:03.100 Oh yeah.

00:55:03.380 I enjoy him a lot.

00:55:04.460 All right.

00:55:04.920 Cool.

00:55:05.460 I'll make it.

00:55:05.880 So he, uh, his, his, like one of his main works is that, uh, the Nephilim look like clowns

00:55:13.060 and he does this.

00:55:14.020 I mean, I'm sure we'd butcher it, but he does, he does an entire deep dive and he talks about,

00:55:18.280 I think it has to do with their, like the blood that they have, uh, running in their

00:55:22.000 veins that, and they also have very pale white skin.

00:55:25.400 So they would look almost like with a tinge of blue, but oftentimes you'll see these, these

00:55:30.220 Hindu gods and goddesses as like blue faces, even like Anubis is kind of blue.

00:55:34.640 And you'll, you'll see that repeated a lot.

00:55:37.140 So you're like, ah,

00:55:37.740 There are even stories of the Kandahar giant where some people swore there was like a blue

00:55:41.040 element to it, to the extent where when artwork is done of it, uh, the giant is often depicted

00:55:45.580 as having like pale blue skin.

00:55:46.940 Yeah.

00:55:47.880 I've seen a very pale white, um, the depictions I've seen of the Kandahar giant were all pale,

00:55:54.620 very pale white, almost, almost garish.

00:55:57.600 Yeah.

00:55:58.640 Yeah.

00:55:59.420 But he was also dead.

00:56:00.720 So, I mean, it could change, but I don't know.

00:56:03.200 They pale usually with like a reddish hair, uh, these kinds of Nephilim two rows of teeth

00:56:08.700 is something that it was not uncommon.

00:56:11.220 Good for chewing, I guess.

00:56:12.460 And the six finger aspect.

00:56:14.900 So as I guess, as they go on, um, as they, as they continue to breed and dilute like

00:56:19.960 these, uh, we assume that they would just look slightly different, but I think that these

00:56:24.140 gods that these people are looking at and, and worshiping and drawing over and over again

00:56:28.940 are just Nephilim or fallen angels.

00:56:31.320 Or, I mean, where do you draw the line?

00:56:33.380 Like how much God are they?

00:56:34.780 It's at this point.

00:56:36.420 We were doing a show the other day and somebody, um, it was testimony.

00:56:39.940 It's a show that we do called NDS Chronicles, where we read testimony from people who have

00:56:43.660 had strange experiences.

00:56:44.700 And one of the people, uh, was having like a demonic encounter repeatedly in sort of a

00:56:49.800 dream world.

00:56:50.900 And eventually she started to ask this thing's name and the name that it gave was, uh, what

00:56:57.160 was it top?

00:56:57.720 It was as, as modus as modius.

00:57:00.600 And, uh, if you look up as Medeus, if you look up as Medeus, as Medeus has lore pretty

00:57:06.640 much everywhere.

00:57:08.140 Um, but he's depicted as having like the body of sort of a, uh, a lion.

00:57:13.160 He's got a, the face of a man.

00:57:14.800 He's also got the face of a bull.

00:57:16.300 He's also got the face of a, of a bird, I believe maybe an Eagle.

00:57:20.260 And there's also a lion's face in there.

00:57:22.640 And, you know, the cherubim were described until, I don't know if it was Catholicism sort

00:57:27.680 of rehashing what a cherubim looked like into like a small chubby baby, but they're described

00:57:33.040 in the Bible as having like the face of a man, the face of a lion, the face of an ox

00:57:36.400 in the face of a, of a, of an Eagle, I believe.

00:57:39.340 And so, um, there are seemingly, if you're paying attention, many different classes of

00:57:45.560 angels that looked pretty different from one another.

00:57:47.720 So you would imagine that, um, if there were a third of the angels, angels who fell, then

00:57:53.300 you would have an array of different entities.

00:57:55.420 They would all look different.

00:57:56.120 So yeah, this is Asmodeus, uh, as he's often depicted and, um, okay.

00:58:00.820 The head of a Ram.

00:58:01.680 That's the one that I was, I was struggling for.

00:58:03.220 So, um, when you look at these different creatures and they all have, you know, some

00:58:10.560 of them are, you have like satyrs and you have centaurs and you have, I do think these

00:58:14.680 are all just offspring of different angels who would have looked in, you know, wildly different

00:58:20.560 from one another.

00:58:21.000 Like the Seraphim or the Nakash would have been described as sort of like a serpentine

00:58:25.140 being, you know?

00:58:26.140 So there's all of a sudden precedent for like any, which lizard people, lizard people.

00:58:31.700 Right.

00:58:32.020 Um, even in, I don't know if it's the, if it's the book of Enoch or, uh, there's another

00:58:37.720 one that describes them as all being, none of them were alike.

00:58:43.080 None of them were alike.

00:58:44.500 All the book of Jasher.

00:58:45.800 Yeah.

00:58:46.080 The book of Jasher.

00:58:46.880 I don't know if it was talking about the angels or their offspring.

00:58:49.640 I think it was talking about the Nephilim.

00:58:50.760 Um, none of them are alike.

00:58:53.420 And honestly, it's like, if that is true, then there is your precedent for every weird

00:58:59.700 creature under the sun throughout history.

00:59:01.740 Like when, when they were talking about, I think it was like in Greek times, was it, um,

00:59:06.580 who was, was it?

00:59:07.700 Socrates was writing about a satyr and a satyr as having been a matter of fact, a satyr that

00:59:13.380 was captured and gifted to a King.

00:59:15.100 And he's describing Socrates is describing this satyr as being like pretty unruly and

00:59:21.000 remarkably strong, very difficult to put in the cage and very nasty, just a nasty creature.

00:59:25.440 It's like, why would he describe that at all?

00:59:28.380 This is somebody who we look to with veneration to this day, you know, the modern day, um,

00:59:34.140 um, King of, of Greek philosophy.

00:59:36.480 And he's describing a satyr, uh, and he's leaving in elements that he's, you know, it's

00:59:42.420 like, sometimes we get caught up in the flowery language, like, oh, did he mean this one was

00:59:46.800 a satyr as in like, he was just wild, wild man.

00:59:51.380 Oh, you have it pulled up.

00:59:52.400 That'd be great.

00:59:53.180 No, I don't, I don't have, but, um, if you do want to reference what we're talking about,

00:59:56.900 we were talking with Brian of demon erasers on our episode.

01:00:00.840 Uh, I forgot what it's called on one of the more recent episodes with him.

01:00:04.600 And, uh, we go into this, we actually bring up a scripture.

01:00:08.180 So it's called the chimeric origins of the Nephilim.

01:00:11.020 It's a episode 84 and there is biblical precedent that describes it.

01:00:16.680 It describes like, Hey, don't lay down with this, this goat looking person.

01:00:20.160 Like I know, I know that their go to see is really nice, but don't do that.

01:00:24.240 In Deuteronomy, it talks about people with cleft lifts and pointed ears and, and bent

01:00:28.640 limbs and stuff like that.

01:00:29.680 They're describing like what would be like an upright dog person or other kind of weird

01:00:34.460 deformities, dwarfs.

01:00:35.700 They're not allowed to enter a certain temple.

01:00:38.140 Some of these things are, uh, you know, you can be like, all right, they don't really want

01:00:42.360 short people in there or fat people, which is fine.

01:00:44.680 Or ugly people.

01:00:45.620 Perfect.

01:00:46.040 But like the cleft lip is very specific.

01:00:49.380 Like what has it like?

01:00:50.700 Yeah.

01:00:51.100 It's really strange, strange occurrences that you'd be super specific about.

01:00:55.640 You can't be in the presence of God in this temple.

01:00:58.000 Right.

01:00:58.380 And then you have precedent for like St.

01:01:00.020 Christopher being like this saint with a dog's head or the lion face men of Moab, which

01:01:04.880 people just, and they're just, Oh, that just means they were fierce.

01:01:08.480 They were fierce warriors.

01:01:09.820 And that's why you would describe them as having lion faces.

01:01:12.180 And it's like, well, I don't know.

01:01:13.380 The more we're looking into this, the more I'm like, maybe they had lion faces.

01:01:16.500 Maybe they were lion faced men, just like it says, I'm looking for a picture to send Danny.

01:01:24.840 So he can, he can put it up on the, uh, up on the screen.

01:01:29.180 I had, uh, quite an encounter whenever I first discovered orthodoxy.

01:01:35.680 So, um, the thing that drew me to orthodoxy was I, I was raised, um, Southern Baptist.

01:01:46.500 And I just kind of looked at it and it was so surface to me.

01:01:54.200 And, uh, so I decided I was agnostic and, and kind of drifted away and went, went my

01:02:01.280 own direction.

01:02:02.740 And then, um, so there's, there's going to be two photos.

01:02:07.400 I just found them.

01:02:08.440 So, um,

01:02:09.580 I might have to save them.

01:02:17.800 Okay.

01:02:18.640 You know, when you said like lion face men of Moab, if you looked at him, I'd be like,

01:02:22.140 I could kind of see if like, if they were like, oh, he's a lion face man.

01:02:25.120 Like, yeah.

01:02:25.600 Lion face to send it.

01:02:26.960 Yeah.

01:02:27.260 Lion face to send it.

01:02:28.140 So I, uh, one of the things that the thing that drew me to orthodoxy was they actually

01:02:37.320 had explanations for, um, different encounters.

01:02:40.960 And I had always had some like encounters throughout my life.

01:02:47.540 And, uh, I, I had, uh, I just sent you those pictures.

01:02:52.240 So this was, this was at, uh, here at my house, we had a fire out front where my wife

01:02:59.380 and I are sitting on the porch and you can, you can see in the two pictures in the first

01:03:05.820 picture, there's this like little faint purple, like the porch.

01:03:11.160 And then whenever, and then a couple of seconds later, she took two pictures simultaneously.

01:03:16.900 So it was click, click.

01:03:19.660 And it was like a second later, it's these two figures around the fire, like standing

01:03:25.760 over the fire.

01:03:26.820 Give me a second.

01:03:27.780 I got it here.

01:03:28.500 Yeah.

01:03:28.820 Oh shit.

01:03:29.380 That's cool.

01:03:30.760 And so this was right around the time I started like investigating orthodoxy.

01:03:37.000 It was shortly after this, I had a dream.

01:03:39.760 I don't know if it was that same night, a couple of nights later, but I had this really,

01:03:44.520 really vivid dream and I was laying in the, on the bosom of a light of a woman and just

01:03:51.640 this beautiful.

01:03:53.100 Yeah.

01:03:53.540 This one, you can see the two figures there, like kind of, that's right here.

01:03:58.020 Yeah.

01:03:58.500 Yeah.

01:03:58.820 And the next one is even crazier, but if I can get to that, but it went from this, this

01:04:04.100 picture to the next picture, it was like almost instantaneous.

01:04:09.860 Oh, you know what?

01:04:11.500 I'll just, I'll just click it on here.

01:04:12.660 So that's the first one.

01:04:15.900 And then this is the second one.

01:04:19.160 Oh, that's weird.

01:04:20.500 Look at that.

01:04:21.260 It looks like a female almost.

01:04:23.120 It's two distinct figures.

01:04:27.020 And so, and, and so it was shortly after this, I was, I had a dream and I was laying on the

01:04:32.340 bosom of this woman and she was caressing my hair and we were talking.

01:04:36.680 And I say, I said, but who are you?

01:04:40.020 And she said, my name is Luca.

01:04:42.660 And Luca, I was like, Luca, what?

01:04:45.640 Like, that's weird.

01:04:47.000 That's like, that's, that's a weird name.

01:04:49.400 So I looked it up and in Sanskrit, that means, uh, God, God of light.

01:04:54.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:57.380 So I was getting enlightened one.

01:04:58.840 Well, even in Italian, it means bringer of light.

01:05:01.620 Lucifer.

01:05:02.560 Yeah.

01:05:03.060 Right.

01:05:03.940 Right.

01:05:04.880 The light mirror.

01:05:06.320 Right.

01:05:07.000 And so, and it was just, it was such a vivid dream.

01:05:10.680 And I was unable to shake it.

01:05:13.340 I actually didn't go to church for six months after this.

01:05:16.620 It shook me to the core.

01:05:18.680 It had me all kinds of messed up.

01:05:22.080 And, uh, I finally got in touch with, uh, father turbo, who is, uh, bucks, uh, spiritual

01:05:28.900 father and turbo quails, right?

01:05:31.360 Turbo quails.

01:05:32.120 Yes.

01:05:32.840 Quails.

01:05:33.260 And, and, and talk to him about it.

01:05:35.040 And he was like, yeah, he goes because of your past and, um, being molested as a child,

01:05:42.480 that these entities will attach themselves to you and kind of follow you around.

01:05:49.600 And as you're finding truth and as you're moving in the right direction, they're going

01:05:55.060 to do everything they can to pull you back and to keep you in their grips.

01:05:59.520 And so he's like, what you're experiencing, that's not a dream.

01:06:03.740 This is actually happening to you.

01:06:06.880 And I was like, wow.

01:06:09.040 Okay.

01:06:09.440 It was just really eyeopening that somebody, a priest would actually have that conversation

01:06:17.840 with me.

01:06:18.540 And this is what drew me into orthodoxy.

01:06:21.820 That's awesome.

01:06:22.720 They're not afraid to tackle the esoteric and, and these, these different things that occur

01:06:30.660 in life.

01:06:32.280 And that's why I think, uh, well, it's not why I've gotten away from the modern church.

01:06:37.840 I've gone away cause I had some disagreements with my old church.

01:06:40.560 And then I went, uh, my parents go to one and they bring my kids, which is great.

01:06:44.140 The kids learn about this stuff, but I'm like, I go and they're very, very Zionist.

01:06:48.820 And they also missed, in my opinion, they missed the spiritual aspect of the spiritual warfare

01:06:53.940 of it.

01:06:54.380 And that's, I try not to blame everything on spiritual warfare, but you do have to be aware

01:07:00.300 of it.

01:07:00.600 Like that it does exist.

01:07:02.380 It is real.

01:07:03.640 Now, if I'm, if I'm just saying, you know, like my kids are behaving, I, I just rebuke

01:07:07.560 them in the name of Jesus.

01:07:08.580 I'm like, they're, they're kids.

01:07:10.720 This is something that you've got to teach.

01:07:12.680 You have to, there's understanding.

01:07:14.800 However, if they're like, you know, my wife and me and my wife going through like, uh,

01:07:19.200 um, you know, health issues and shit like that.

01:07:21.440 Like really, we just went through a bunch of spiritual warfare right before Bohemian

01:07:24.940 growth.

01:07:25.400 It was a lot of fun.

01:07:26.620 And we're like, but I'm like keenly aware of it.

01:07:29.240 Like, I understand this is a spiritual warfare, but I also understand that these things are

01:07:33.940 full of shit.

01:07:34.960 So they have to approach you in your dream or in some sort of super state like that,

01:07:39.340 because they're not, they, they can't manifest here.

01:07:42.700 Well, not yet, hopefully not, not in my life, but maybe, but they have to approach you.

01:07:48.380 They have to deceive you.

01:07:49.700 It reminds me of a story we just read on, uh, Nephilim, Nephilim death squad chronicles

01:07:54.460 of, uh, uh, a woman that she was approached by the other woman with Asmodeus and she was

01:08:00.220 approached by this being constantly and was raped by it in her, in her dreams constantly.

01:08:06.120 And then, then it just turned into kind of like consensual casual sex.

01:08:09.560 And she would talk dirty to her.

01:08:10.260 But that's just, but that's just sleep paralysis.

01:08:12.640 Don't worry about it.

01:08:13.240 Right.

01:08:13.820 Right.

01:08:14.180 But she, she wasn't drawing the difference at the time that this was actually happening

01:08:18.040 to her.

01:08:18.420 She's like, I think that, you know, I might've been on a medication.

01:08:21.680 I, maybe I'm just crazy.

01:08:22.880 And this is, it's to the point where she's like, yeah, you know, do me harder, like crazy

01:08:26.260 shit like that.

01:08:26.820 And like kind of getting into it.

01:08:27.920 She's like, well, when in Rome, it's like, but they rely on that when in bed.

01:08:34.760 Yeah.

01:08:35.020 I guess invite the demon.

01:08:36.380 And I, I get it.

01:08:38.260 I, I understand why, like, you're like, oh, this is just a dream.

01:08:41.040 Like whatever.

01:08:41.700 Like, let's just get past this shit.

01:08:43.140 I'll wake up and then go to life and do whatever.

01:08:45.620 But you're consenting in that dream.

01:08:48.020 And they kind of rely on you to be fooled and mistaken by that.

01:08:52.040 So it's, it's scary, but it's also relieving, right?

01:08:56.260 Because it's like, oh, you had to, this is the kind of valor, you know, the smoke and

01:09:00.240 mirrors that you had to show me in order to get me to do what you wanted.

01:09:05.040 And then even still, after I did what you wanted, I can just be like, nah, I'm just in

01:09:09.420 the name of Jesus.

01:09:10.020 I don't like that anymore.

01:09:11.400 And, and then, and then you kind of got to stop.

01:09:14.360 So yeah.

01:09:15.620 White pill, big white pill there.

01:09:17.760 I agree with that.

01:09:18.400 And that's, you know, Tommy, you just touched on it there, right?

01:09:21.100 Where it's just like, oh, it's just sleep paralysis.

01:09:22.720 This is one of these things where both, and I agree with your ideas about how orthodox

01:09:28.280 Christianity doesn't seem to shy away from the supernatural aspect of things, which I really

01:09:33.260 enjoy about them.

01:09:35.380 And we were talking about Tucker Carlson earlier.

01:09:37.400 One of the things that he says that does resonate with me is that in the West, we're, we have

01:09:41.540 a detachment from our understanding of the spiritual realm.

01:09:43.780 We're, we're detached spiritually.

01:09:45.520 We just don't understand it purposefully.

01:09:47.900 Most purposefully.

01:09:48.900 Yes.

01:09:49.540 Can you bring that second picture up again?

01:09:51.580 Uh, Danny, I'm sorry, man.

01:09:53.380 Go ahead.

01:09:53.880 No, it's okay.

01:09:54.580 Um, but most churches are also going to ignore the supernatural aspect of things.

01:09:59.480 And so what happens is it leaves you entirely unarmed.

01:10:02.880 So when we're talking about this, this woman who sent this, uh, story to us, she's lost

01:10:08.880 for a while.

01:10:09.500 She doesn't know how to deal with it.

01:10:10.660 She thinks it's a dream.

01:10:11.560 She thinks dreams are meaningless because in the West, we think dreams are meaningless.

01:10:14.580 So there's so many ways, like they're not that strong and you can overcome them.

01:10:20.180 They rely on you being in the dark and not understanding what this is for them to be able to take

01:10:26.800 advantage of you.

01:10:28.420 I wanted to, I wanted to point one thing out that a lot of people could easily overlook.

01:10:34.700 If you look down, uh, at the bottom of the picture, that's my dog's head right there.

01:10:41.480 He's staring at the figures.

01:10:44.780 Oh, wait, does he have his head down looking at this?

01:10:47.700 No, he, that's my wife was taking the picture.

01:10:51.260 She was sitting behind him.

01:10:52.560 So that's the top of his head.

01:10:55.580 And he's looking directly at those figures.

01:10:58.620 Oh shit.

01:11:00.340 Yeah.

01:11:00.620 I see that.

01:11:01.380 And see, we couldn't see that with the human eye, but he saw them.

01:11:06.220 We didn't see that until she took the pictures.

01:11:10.460 Yeah.

01:11:10.960 I definitely think animals are, are, are keyed into, um, something that, that human beings

01:11:16.280 can't see.

01:11:16.880 You can't perceive, uh, with our own eyes.

01:11:18.860 There's, there's definitely something there, but.

01:11:20.420 Well, not only are they keyed in, I, I think it's just that we're like, so zoned out with

01:11:24.700 the bullshit.

01:11:25.140 Like, I mean, I'm, I'm very interested in seeing what happens with this make America

01:11:29.040 healthy movement, because, uh, I have a feeling that when you take red dye and fluoride out

01:11:34.920 of the water and the food supply, people begin to see a little bit more clearly.

01:11:39.280 And I don't know what that means, but I think that all that shit that's jamming up your pineal

01:11:44.260 gland, if you want to get like real woo woo with this shit, I think that that is a, that's

01:11:50.020 going to be a major factor in whatever we're going to see next.

01:11:53.540 Yeah.

01:11:54.000 And it's done on purpose.

01:11:55.920 Well, you know what I want to hear?

01:11:58.240 You had brought up Jacob and Esau earlier, and then you said, we'll get back to that.

01:12:02.620 So let's go buddy.

01:12:04.840 All right.

01:12:05.580 Uh, where do we start with that one?

01:12:07.440 Justin Brown of the Prometheus lens podcast.

01:12:10.540 You should have him on.

01:12:11.240 Cause again, we are just love him.

01:12:13.580 Yeah.

01:12:13.960 Oh yeah.

01:12:14.220 You guys are, where are you from?

01:12:16.460 Where are you at now?

01:12:17.460 I live in Beaumont or outside of Beaumont, Texas.

01:12:20.860 Okay.

01:12:21.240 All right.

01:12:21.500 He's in, I think he's in Virginia, right?

01:12:23.420 Some, I think something like that, but he's a, he's a great guy.

01:12:26.200 He's got, um, incredible.

01:12:28.540 We won't do it justice.

01:12:29.460 You of course need to talk to him because Justin is one of these guys when it comes to this

01:12:34.140 topic of Esau and Jacob, um, that is kind of in a lot of ways, blazing a trail.

01:12:41.440 Um, this isn't, this is his own research to a large degree.

01:12:45.160 I mean, I'm sure he's found some help from people who have an idea or two, but a lot

01:12:48.660 of it is stuff that he is compiling himself.

01:12:51.320 And so, um, there's, there's two ideas when it comes to the Jacob and Esau thing.

01:12:57.340 One of them has to do with Bigfoot.

01:12:58.540 The other one has to do with these priestly robes that would have been on Noah.

01:13:02.400 Um, when his kids found him naked and drunk and pulled his garments over him, uh, the

01:13:09.900 same priestly robes allegedly that you want to know, you want to know, uh, uh, and I won't

01:13:16.100 say fun fact, but, um, traditionally the son that stumbled upon Noah and saw him naked.

01:13:25.940 Do you know what that actually means?

01:13:28.880 Um, yeah, it means that he fucked his wife or he fucked.

01:13:32.400 Fucked his mom.

01:13:33.400 No.

01:13:33.920 It was episode 67.

01:13:35.200 No, he raped Noah.

01:13:37.300 Oh, interesting.

01:13:40.000 That's traditional.

01:13:41.500 That's traditionally the way that it was, it was read from the Jewish perspective back

01:13:47.620 in the day.

01:13:49.100 That's interesting.

01:13:50.200 That's even worse.

01:13:51.400 He didn't, he didn't just stumble.

01:13:53.360 He didn't just see his father naked.

01:13:55.000 He experienced his father naked.

01:13:58.060 That his father got drunk and passed out and he took advantage of him and he went and got

01:14:04.280 his brothers to join him.

01:14:06.280 And they were like, yeah, his brothers were like, no.

01:14:10.320 And that's why Noah disowned him.

01:14:12.740 I love it that they would go by the, yo, dude, come in here.

01:14:14.840 You want to rape dad?

01:14:15.800 And they're like, you want to come get some of this?

01:14:18.480 You want to do what now?

01:14:20.300 Well, um, so those robes that they pulled over him when they denied the request for raping,

01:14:25.200 I guess, um, allegedly, according to Justin Brown, which he's got a lot of really compelling

01:14:29.600 evidence to support the theory is these were the same robes that were stripped off of the

01:14:34.020 serpent in the garden, the Nikash, that the idea that the Nikash was the accuser, he was

01:14:39.000 Satan.

01:14:39.320 Um, he had a role to play and that he was actually like a priest.

01:14:43.660 Um, he had a high spiritual place of authority and he went too far, um, in the situation with

01:14:50.620 the transgressions of Adam and Eve.

01:14:51.940 And so the robes were stripped off of him, uh, given to Adam and you can trace these all

01:14:56.700 the way down to the coat of many colors that was given to Joseph.

01:14:59.440 And at some point, uh, Esau has them for a period.

01:15:03.240 And so, I mean, I highly recommend cause we will butcher that have Justin Brown on, you'll

01:15:09.440 get a real kick out of this.

01:15:10.760 It's a lot of fun.

01:15:11.620 Well, when it comes to more, there's more to that, but there's more to the, to that part

01:15:16.080 we could, we can sort of tell you, but it's, so that's in the Leviticus 18, eight, and also

01:15:21.460 in Deuteronomy, I have to look that one up, but in Leviticus, it's talking about the nakedness

01:15:25.140 of your father and of the nakedness of your father's wife, you shall not uncover.

01:15:29.500 So that is, I think when we were talking about this, when we were saying he raped his

01:15:33.060 mother, that, because these are, these are specific rules that they're telling people

01:15:36.620 like don't uncover the nakedness of your father's wife.

01:15:39.200 So don't rape your mother or your mother, your stepmother.

01:15:43.060 But if they uncovered the nakedness of their father, uh, that means, yeah, geez, that's

01:15:48.300 rough, dude.

01:15:49.140 That's even worse.

01:15:50.060 Dad's cheeks.

01:15:51.000 Dad's drunk again.

01:15:52.140 Better.

01:15:52.580 Super gay.

01:15:53.680 Better fuck his butt.

01:15:54.780 Um, so, I mean, I don't know.

01:15:57.820 Isn't that what you see your dad get drunk?

01:16:00.040 Isn't that what destiny just did to Nick Foyce?

01:16:02.280 I'm pretty sure it is.

01:16:03.260 I managed to avoid that video, by the way.

01:16:05.460 I haven't seen it.

01:16:06.500 I don't want to see it.

01:16:07.480 It just reminded me of this Ron Paul bit.

01:16:09.900 Uh, y'all seen the, the new Ron Paul bit where he's talking about, uh, he, he met a

01:16:15.100 guy and he found out the guy was gay.

01:16:17.480 And he's like, it's funny.

01:16:18.400 Cause he didn't seem gay to me.

01:16:21.260 And then he, then he goes on to talk about when he was 20, he let some dude blow him in

01:16:26.700 a gas station bathroom and he goes, but he seemed, he seemed gay.

01:16:32.080 And he goes, I guess if you would have walked in the bathroom, we would have both seemed

01:16:36.360 gay, but it was just him.

01:16:38.600 That's incredible.

01:16:40.200 Incredible.

01:16:40.680 Um, so, so when it comes to the, the big foot correlation, it, it's basically Justin taking

01:16:51.000 a much deeper dive into this idea that he saw was covered in hair to the extent that

01:16:56.920 when Jacob went to get his birthright and trick his father, he had to put sheep's wool

01:17:02.880 on his body.

01:17:03.500 He also had to cover himself in enough crap that he smelled bad, which is interesting

01:17:09.320 cause that does go along with a big foot lore is that he smells horrific.

01:17:13.220 Um, and that the, the birth of Jacob and Esau was sort of a, uh, a fractal prophecy.

01:17:25.780 This idea of, we talked about it before enmity between the seed of man and the seed of the

01:17:31.240 serpent.

01:17:31.500 Um, he shall bruise your heel, but you shall bruise his head.

01:17:36.100 Uh, even the way that they came out in that order, um, Esau was gripping onto Jacob's heel.

01:17:42.460 I believe there's a, there's a whole slew of stuff that, uh, Justin gets into.

01:17:47.300 And also kind of, it kind of ties into that thing that you were talking about when you're,

01:17:51.960 uh, what these, these Kings will do like summoning another entity.

01:17:56.340 So this woman, it would seem if, if this part is to believe, to be believed,

01:18:01.500 Rebecca had both the seed of, of, uh, God or this pure blooded seed, not, not God himself,

01:18:08.860 but you know, this Hebrew seed of this, this lineage in her.

01:18:13.360 And also at the same time, the seed of a monster, a Nephilim, there shall be two nations, right?

01:18:18.880 Like that is literally the Bible is telling you, that's a prophecy, completely different

01:18:22.960 people.

01:18:23.380 And, uh, and there, and there are people that believe that Noah was a Nephilim.

01:18:29.440 Yes.

01:18:30.020 Yeah.

01:18:30.700 Um, and yeah, there's a lot of, you know, you go back and forth.

01:18:33.980 A lot of people will show you evidence for Noah having been exponentially larger, uh, than

01:18:39.260 other people too.

01:18:40.300 It's really interesting because, uh, there was an episode recently of the confessionals where

01:18:45.120 there was a site for some time that people speculated was the mountain that Noah's Ark

01:18:51.520 would have landed on.

01:18:52.200 A lot of people were looking at the, uh, Mount Ararat as the location for Noah's landing.

01:18:58.520 It seems that was a little bit of a misnomer and it was a mountain in the mountains of Ararat,

01:19:04.620 not specifically Mount Ararat, but there was, there's a mountain range there.

01:19:07.760 And on one of those mountains, they did find a ship, which enough right there should be

01:19:13.200 like, what the hell, uh, of, I think it's like 500 feet in length.

01:19:17.500 And there was a time where people were much 500 yards, 500 yards.

01:19:22.540 I'm sorry, 500 yards in length.

01:19:24.160 And there was a time where people were much more, either way, that's a big fucking ship.

01:19:27.740 Yeah.

01:19:28.320 Yeah.

01:19:29.000 And recently there was, um, uh, rock slides and mudslides.

01:19:33.820 And when that happened, giant portions of the ship were suddenly exposed.

01:19:39.040 And now it seems without a doubt, there is definitively a massive ship on the top of one

01:19:44.920 of the mountains of Ararat.

01:19:46.160 And even just beneath the ship, there is a small village that fits the description of the

01:19:51.720 place that Noah and his family would have first, you know, came out of the ship, landed on and

01:19:56.020 started to build a community at.

01:19:58.200 And so, I mean, we're in this weird period right now where even the shroud of Turin is

01:20:05.060 like kind of turning a corner.

01:20:06.680 They've now dated it to be 2000 years old.

01:20:09.660 We did an episode on it recently.

01:20:11.620 And that was a good episode, dude.

01:20:13.640 It seems like it holds a lot.

01:20:15.440 Shout out to these guys.

01:20:16.520 Yeah.

01:20:16.780 Cult of conspiracy.

01:20:17.740 They're fantastic.

01:20:18.860 Uh, uh, good buddies of ours.

01:20:20.280 And, um, and they came with all the receipts for that.

01:20:23.280 And so in so many ways, it feels like, um, you know, there was a time when I, I figured

01:20:29.820 the biblical lens was the correct lens.

01:20:31.840 And now it's like, you know, for us doing this show is just epiphany followed by vindication,

01:20:40.140 followed by epiphany, followed by vindication.

01:20:43.140 Um, it seems like this was all incredibly real.

01:20:46.200 And, and, uh, I don't know.

01:20:48.880 I mean, you know, I know that the Dead Sea Scrolls did a lot of convicting for, um, a

01:20:53.780 lot of scripture and also gave us the book of Enoch, which even that I find interesting

01:20:58.140 because it's like the very first line in the book of Enoch is that this is for the tribulation

01:21:02.360 generation.

01:21:02.940 And if you look around, you want to know, you know, what's really interesting about the

01:21:06.960 book of Enoch, uh, other than it's the book that's next to my bed on my nightstand,

01:21:13.240 is, is that it, it was the second most popular book in that, in that region.

01:21:22.860 So they, they only, the only book they found that was more popular than Enoch that they found

01:21:29.880 more copies of in that area where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls was Genesis.

01:21:35.040 Wow.

01:21:35.660 Enoch was number two.

01:21:37.620 Kind of makes a lot of sense.

01:21:39.260 It's, it's meant he's mentioned in the Bible.

01:21:41.260 So yeah, the people in the Bible were reading that stuff, but, uh, one thing we

01:21:45.940 uncovered, which is real interesting, the initial discovery in, uh, I guess by a shepherd

01:21:51.960 named Muhammad, of course, uh, in the, in the Kuman area, it was discovered in 1947.

01:21:57.400 What's made, uh, in, when was Israel made?

01:22:02.660 48?

01:22:04.320 Ah, it's kind of interesting.

01:22:06.160 So this book is going to...

01:22:07.720 It's also like right around the Roswell sightings.

01:22:10.400 It's right around, um, the, the end of World War II, right?

01:22:14.660 Like there was, it was a weird, really weird time.

01:22:17.840 Uh, it seems the late forties.

01:22:19.940 And it's like, this is for the tribulation generation.

01:22:21.900 And then boom, you've got the creation of the state of Israel.

01:22:24.480 You've got the end of the world war.

01:22:26.000 You've got, yeah.

01:22:26.980 All the aliens should happen.

01:22:28.080 The end of an era and the beginning of a new one.

01:22:29.880 God died shortly after in America.

01:22:31.760 You know, there's no God in America for like, I don't know, the sixties or the seventies

01:22:34.400 or something like that.

01:22:35.580 It's, things get real weird.

01:22:37.700 Now we're in like this church age that is about to be over as well.

01:22:41.260 And yeah, I don't, I don't know.

01:22:42.720 I'm sure everybody said this, uh, that kind of looks at this stuff.

01:22:45.940 They're like, yeah, we're in the end times, but it sure does feel like it.

01:22:48.660 And what else to that topic is that Sarah from Rose used to say, it's later than you

01:22:53.480 think.

01:22:54.320 Yeah, I think that that's a great way of putting it.

01:22:57.160 And I know that a lot of other generations thought they were there, but we are the only generation

01:23:01.320 that has gotten to a point where you can at least speculate as to whether or not they

01:23:06.400 are trying to manufacture prophecy, because there are many ways in which I look at what

01:23:11.060 happens on the world stage.

01:23:12.140 And I go, that seems to be, there's an effort to make this fit a sort of end times prophecy.

01:23:19.200 And that kind of happens over and over again.

01:23:20.880 I mean, certainly when it came to the red heifers, the red heifer, the fulfillment of that prophecy

01:23:25.860 Yeah, that came from a, a, a farm that's purpose was to genetically create the perfect red heifer.

01:23:34.220 If you look into it, it's like, yeah, that's what they were doing there.

01:23:36.640 You know, it's obviously good business to be in, but if they can create the red head

01:23:40.440 and of course, you know, they ended up doing that.

01:23:42.460 In fact, they ended up getting like eight possible candidates that got whittled down to five

01:23:47.760 that got whittled down to three.

01:23:49.380 And then all of a sudden the press stopped rolling on it because things became awfully controversial

01:23:52.940 there. Um, and so that is one way that I look at it and I go, that seems to be a manufacturing

01:23:58.640 of, of prophecy. You can certainly say that.

01:24:01.080 That was an incredible time. Let's just take a stroll back there to that time where I forget

01:24:05.460 the woman that works for Ben Shapiro's, I don't know, some Jewish lady was talking about it

01:24:10.840 in almost a celebratory manner. And then like, I was one of the people that pushed her on it.

01:24:14.880 I was like, what the fuck did you just say?

01:24:16.700 Like the end times and you're pumped about it.

01:24:19.940 Yeah. So they moved the red heifers to Israel and then she's like, oh, but it's just, it's

01:24:23.540 just fine. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. They're going to sacrifice them. Then they're

01:24:26.320 going to bathe these tools that they're going to erect this next temple in their ashes.

01:24:30.740 It's like, I guess it's fine, but like, this is cause for alarm and they just kind of like

01:24:35.060 matter of factly like, yeah, no, this is what's going to go down. And then you don't hear anything

01:24:39.000 else about it. Then we have like the eclipse happens and then dead silence on the, on the red

01:24:43.740 heifers.

01:24:44.080 Well, that's it. What's, what's hilarious to me is the same people that are all up in

01:24:49.520 arms about the persecution of the Jews and the persecution of Israel are wanting to usher

01:24:59.520 in the end of Israel. It's really weird. Yeah. Yeah. Psychotic.

01:25:07.440 It is. It's all kind of insane. I mean, you know, we, we've been looking a lot at the Donald

01:25:11.820 Trump thing, which, you know, I tend not to look at things from too much of a political

01:25:16.300 point of view and more of like an esoteric, spiritual, cultural kind of view. And with

01:25:21.180 him, there seems to be at the very least, there is no shortage of rabbinic Jews in Israel who

01:25:28.560 are looking to him as the Moshiach, as like a Messiah figure. They herald him as we even

01:25:34.340 have this like minted coin with him and his face next to King Cyrus's face who, you know,

01:25:41.820 made it possible for the building of the second temple. They regard him. They gave him recently

01:25:46.980 this silver crown. And I believe there's efforts being made constantly to determine whether or

01:25:53.880 not Donald Trump, this is, this is real shit is one of the genetic descendants of the biblical

01:26:00.040 King David. And so they have songs about him, super Trump and all this crazy crap. They regard

01:26:06.240 him as a messianic figure. And even that I'm like, I don't know, there just seems to be this.

01:26:13.720 You say, you said super Trump and super freak came to mind.

01:26:18.900 It should have been. They really missed the boat on that. It should have been set to the

01:26:24.520 soundtrack of super freak, but this, this song slaps too.

01:26:27.540 Yo, super, super Trump is a banger of a song. It's sung by the Israeli boys choir and they sing

01:26:34.280 about him as if he is a superhero. That's how they perceive him. And so there's so many things.

01:26:41.820 I'm like, I don't know what they're exactly doing with Donald Trump. I know I have like a slew of

01:26:47.360 Donald Trump. It might be the antichrist notes.

01:26:50.180 You got to get Cyprian on to talk about that. He'll, he'll go on for days.

01:26:58.140 I think, I think he's forgiven me since I know we have, we've had some like, like back and forth,

01:27:02.580 but that was years ago. I would love to talk to, uh, he's not, he's not on a Twitter anymore.

01:27:07.720 You know, you'd have to email him, but yeah.

01:27:11.300 If you could hook us up, Vin Armani, old school Vin Armani, Cyprian, man. Yeah. That dude,

01:27:16.240 he was writing about so much shit that I kind of like, I didn't, I never like spit in his face,

01:27:22.360 but sometimes I'm like, you're going a little crazy, dude. What are you talking about? And

01:27:25.700 then I'm like, the craziest. And then it happened. You're like, okay. Yeah. And then I was like,

01:27:32.420 all right, well, what else do you have to say? He's a, he's the reason that like Buck, myself,

01:27:39.440 Matt Erickson, all got introduced to orthodoxy. Beautiful. I would love to have Matt on

01:27:46.140 as well. I see, I see that his show is growing and his, uh, his following is growing. He's doing,

01:27:50.820 he's doing some, some cool stuff. It's, it's cool to see. Matt's a bad-ass dude. I love Matt.

01:27:55.960 Yeah. It's, it's great to see like how that weird libertarian community kind of like is just,

01:28:01.940 uh, you know, fractionated. Yes. It just blew up and everybody goes kind of like in different

01:28:08.340 paths, but they're doing all just really cool things. And we're all still like close friends.

01:28:13.060 Like I just talked to Pete last night. Actually, he's going to be on the show here next week. So

01:28:17.740 Pete's another one had him scheduled and I never nailed a date, but I was just texting back and

01:28:23.120 forth with them. They're just good people. I'm so I'm very glad for the time that I spent in the

01:28:27.200 libertarian party. I'm glad I didn't turn out gay. And I'm glad I came out of it with like knowing

01:28:32.000 some cool people. I want to, I want to share this with, uh, with Tommy. I thought you were gay when

01:28:37.380 you entered and we turned you straight. I prayed it away. We prayed it away. So Tommy check this

01:28:46.980 one out. This is, this is neither here nor there. It's just something in my notes that I love telling

01:28:51.500 people because it's something a lot of people don't know. And it's very fun. Um, did you know

01:28:55.920 that in 1958, there was this, uh, show called the track down. It was like an old timey Western

01:29:01.020 kind of a deal. And, um, there was an episode named the end of the world. And the entire premise

01:29:08.820 of the episode is a con man comes to town and he is warning everyone that the world is going to end.

01:29:18.740 And once everyone is sufficiently freaked out, they start to, you know, wonder how they're going to

01:29:25.920 solve this issue. He has a solution. His solution is to build a wall. Uh, and that's going to protect

01:29:33.760 them. The guy's name was Trump in the series. Yeah. Yeah. And again, not to seem like I'm not

01:29:45.400 like, I'm not anti-Trump. A lot of people, like when, when we do episodes about this, they're like,

01:29:48.900 Oh yeah, fuck that guy. Right. And I'm like, I really like him. I like what he's doing. And I

01:29:55.540 like hilarious. He's so funny. How could you not? And also the direction that this,

01:30:00.420 the country is going in, it's like, well, we have a choice. We can go this way or that way.

01:30:04.100 It's like, I kind of want to see the story continue, but in this direction. And I understand

01:30:06.980 he might be the antichrist, but let's be real here. He's hilarious. Right. But there is like

01:30:12.360 all this weird lore, like, um, what's that, that movie back to the future. There's like a million

01:30:17.220 different ways in which it nods at, at Donald Trump and nine 11, interestingly enough,

01:30:21.760 but like Biff, the character Biff was actually modeled after Donald Trump. Um, there is the

01:30:28.900 Lockwood books. Check this out. There was a book released in 1968 called stand on Zanzibar.

01:30:36.760 It predicted that in 2010, there would be a black president that there would be AirPods.

01:30:43.820 There would be headphones. There would be a financial collapse. Like it was like, it's like,

01:30:51.200 what the fuck? Sometimes I think that people tap into a lot of people who make like books,

01:30:58.940 movies, any kind of art they're channeling. I think a lot of them are channeling and they

01:31:02.920 don't really realize it is because so many of them will tell you like even Stephen King

01:31:06.680 tells you that people don't have ideas. Ideas have people. Yes. Correct. Yeah. We were talking

01:31:13.700 about that. It seems like there's almost like ideas. Ideas are almost alive. Yes, dude. Okay.

01:31:19.320 That's exactly what I was going to say. How many, how many times have you been like,

01:31:22.900 cause I drive a truck so I can relate it to driving, but I can't, I can't tell you how

01:31:26.740 many times I've been driving in complete silence and an image pops into my mind and I'm like,

01:31:34.580 Oh my fucking God, where the hell did that come from? That's disturbing. Like what, what,

01:31:40.060 what would make me think of such a thing? You know, like it almost disgusts you. Sometimes the

01:31:45.880 things that pop in your head. Right. Probably the, one of the ways that it happens the most

01:31:51.220 because you get into like a automaton kind of meditative state when you're driving,

01:31:55.420 if you're driving long distances, you're like in a, in a weird space mentally.

01:31:59.360 And I usually drive like 600 miles a day. That's insane. Yep. When I was, when I was driving truck,

01:32:05.440 that's like when most of my artistic ideas came. Cause it's something about like, I'm in like this

01:32:09.820 cabin and shit's moving by me and I'm going and there's nothing really somehow I'm like,

01:32:15.000 I'm on autopilot thinking about safety stuff, but really if I've got this podcast on, I might be

01:32:20.680 listening to year zero and then I'm hearing Tommy talk. And then all of a sudden I start to talk

01:32:25.700 back to him in my head and then your brain could just travel. And, but then, then it gets to the

01:32:30.000 idea of, well, which ideas are your own, right? Like the Jerry Marzinski idea, everybody drink.

01:32:36.200 How many of these ideas are yours? And he would contend that there's very few of them. And do you know,

01:32:42.500 Jerry Marzinski? I do not. Oh shit. All right. Here we go. I'm about to score. Go ahead,

01:32:48.800 David. I know you wouldn't do it. I'll keep it short and sweet, but Dr. Jerry Marzinski is a

01:32:53.220 clinical psychologist with 35 plus years in the field, working directly with schizophrenic people.

01:32:59.540 And initially he worked in a medical environment where it was very restrictive. Eventually he moved

01:33:05.060 on to a prison environment where he had a lot more room for experimentation. Long story short,

01:33:10.160 after going through the, you know, medical apparatus rigmarole and all his professional

01:33:15.060 career, he came out the other end saying people are being influenced by something external to

01:33:20.040 themselves and that it is demonic and that Psalms 23 has a real effect on these entities. And he

01:33:27.740 actually showed up for a second appearance on our show with somebody who used to be schizophrenic

01:33:33.040 and then overcame it by treating it as if it was an external threat and that it was not

01:33:38.000 hallucinations by his own mind. Oh, wow. Uh, he came up with 23 discernible patterns that these

01:33:44.280 things adhere to. And he says that as the medical industry has been pinned, um, hallucinations by

01:33:51.400 nature, hallucinations do not adhere to a set of patterns. Uh, not very often. I mean, hallucinations

01:33:57.480 in their nature, they're sort of random, uh, but they would eventually fall into some sort of a

01:34:02.380 pattern if it's like a thousand monkeys, right? Typing on it. Yeah. Typewriter sort of thing.

01:34:06.080 But he came up with 23, 23 discernible patterns that these things adhere to, and then started

01:34:11.060 to treat people as if they were dealing with demonic, uh, oppression and with great success,

01:34:15.920 by the way. So, um, you would definitely like to talk to Dr. Jerry Marzinski. Um, we'll, we'll

01:34:22.320 give you his contact information. You'd get, you'd have a blast with him. Yeah. One of his stories

01:34:26.060 that we'd love to tell is like, uh, when he's there and he's speaking to these, these patients

01:34:31.060 that are in, in the jail or the, you know, the, I guess the prisoners that are in the

01:34:35.740 jail. Yeah. Um, he was just kind of like treating them, but he's doing it in an unorthodox way

01:34:40.620 where he's actually telling them to address the voices rather than, uh, just take medicine

01:34:44.980 and like push it to the side. And multiple times the inmates would come up and tell him

01:34:50.420 like, uh, the voices told us that like, you have no right to interfere with how we're living.

01:34:55.100 And he's like, Oh, that's kind of weird. I don't know what to do. And, uh, it leads

01:34:59.580 up to the point where he has one guy in his office and he's sitting across his desk and

01:35:03.100 he's, he's had conversations that led to a point where he felt comfortable where he's

01:35:08.020 going to show him this chapter in a book. And in the chapter in the book is, uh, another

01:35:12.780 Spanish doctor. That's kind of brutally, he's theorizing that possibly these things are entities

01:35:18.340 that are talking to him and not, you know, just hallucinations. So he's like, here, read

01:35:22.760 that. Let me know what you think. And the guy reads it and he says, he kind of like

01:35:25.820 looks at me with a blank stare and like, we're just silent in the room. And, uh, all

01:35:31.320 of a sudden the guy just goes, no, sorry. He's looking at him with a blank stare. At that

01:35:35.700 point, he hears like a crackling noise that travels behind him across the wall and around

01:35:40.900 to that wall into the garbage can in his, in his, in his office. And he's like, what the

01:35:45.920 hell was that? He looks at the guy again, blank stare, the guy just like, okay, I got to

01:35:50.240 go and he gets up and he leaves. And he's like, I don't know what the fuck that was,

01:35:53.680 but he shut down his office for like the next day or so. And, uh, he said maybe a couple

01:35:58.320 of weeks to a month pass and he sees the same guy again and he goes, how you doing? And

01:36:02.680 the guy's doing better because he's now addressing the voices and he's taking like, you know, he's

01:36:08.300 taking ownership that like, this is, you know, this is me. It's, these are external things

01:36:12.220 that are talking to me and I'm not, I'm not going completely crazy. So he's like, I'm doing

01:36:16.000 better. And then Jerry asked him like, well, you know, last time you were in here was kind

01:36:20.280 of weird. So what was that about? You were just like, looked at me blank and then left

01:36:24.300 in a, in a hurry. And he goes, yeah. Uh, as you were talking to me, you know, something

01:36:30.480 was going on. He was like, did you hear the static electric thing? And he was like, did

01:36:34.120 you heard that too? And Jerry goes, yeah. And he says, uh, that's the voices. He's like,

01:36:40.960 I'm surprised that you heard that. So now Jerry's playing with them. He goes, what did

01:36:44.840 they tell you? You know? And he looks at him, he goes, the voices told me to, uh, find a

01:36:51.200 shank and put it in your guts. And he's like, why didn't you? And he said, well, I went out

01:36:58.220 and I couldn't find one. So I didn't do it. And again, Jerry's like, he shuts down his office

01:37:04.260 for the next day or so. And he's like, yeah, contemplate what just happened here. And that's

01:37:10.900 that, I guess that was like, uh, probably 20 years ago or maybe 25 because he's been

01:37:14.640 doing it for 35. And ever since then, he's kind of on this journey of like, what the hell

01:37:18.800 is this stuff? And I think he has the most compelling database of information regarding

01:37:25.040 schizophrenia and entities and, uh, and methamphetamine. We're going to talk about Nazi

01:37:30.100 Germany as well. Well, I think before I would have gone on a journey to figure out, uh, what

01:37:37.760 the hell's going on, I would have gone on a journey to find some plate armor. So I don't

01:37:41.620 get shanked in my guts. Yeah. But we do it through zoom, do it through zoom, Jerry. Yeah, no doubt.

01:37:48.960 This is much safer. Yeah. Yeah. I think Jerry Barzynski, he's a, he's tremendous. Like I said,

01:37:55.100 last time he bought a guy on the show was diagnosed schizophrenic in his twenties, bipolar

01:38:00.620 schizophrenic and, um, and is now, you know, much older. I think he's like in his forties

01:38:06.660 or fifties. He has had a successful career as a, um, mechanical engineer and yeah, he came

01:38:13.260 on and he shared his story with us. If you talk to him, you'd have never guessed that this

01:38:16.820 was a guy that was struggling with schizophrenia. Um, and his ideas about what these things were

01:38:22.440 and, um, and you know, some of the stories that he has about how they interacted with

01:38:27.540 him are harrowing, but it's very clear that in the West, we, uh, we don't really know what

01:38:33.120 the hell schizophrenia is. We just kind of drug these people into oblivion and tell them

01:38:36.540 that it's their fault because they're fundamentally broken in some way. You know, it's, it's all

01:38:41.820 a product of their mind and it's all that has no base in reality. And it does not seem to

01:38:46.680 be the case. Well, let's wrap it up, man. This is a lot of information. This is a lot

01:38:54.660 going on. And I want to have y'all back on to talk about drugging people in Nazi Germany.

01:39:00.540 This sounds like that could go on forever. Oh yeah. That would be a fun, maybe, maybe you

01:39:05.680 come on our show. Um, talk about, cause I know you have some expertise in some of these

01:39:09.200 like historical areas. So let's discuss that. And then I haven't, I haven't read that. I haven't

01:39:13.180 read anything on that. So I'm in the dark on that one. Yeah. Don't look up Perviton,

01:39:18.660 man. And go to toplobster.com, buy a Perviton shirt. That's their, uh, that was their drug

01:39:22.620 that basically is meth and they were giving it to the Zerkers, to the soldiers. But it's

01:39:26.920 like, yeah, like, like we, we touched on before, you know, Hitler's giving speeches from the

01:39:30.600 Pergamon and we have, uh, well, a genocide on God's people or whatever they're doing. They're

01:39:36.980 working with UFOs, doing some weird shit. A lot of icon, iconography with, uh, Zeus and lightning

01:39:42.360 bolts and shit like that. And then in the backdrop, you've got, uh, you know, methamphetamine,

01:39:47.460 which is the doorway to kick this open to communing with these entities. So I'm like,

01:39:52.680 there's gotta be some kind of connection here. There's too many, too many things. Hitler's

01:39:56.140 tweaking a little too hard for there not to be no, there'd be zero communication with, uh,

01:40:00.720 some kind of entity, not to say Hitler was a bad dude, but you know, I'm suspicious. Like

01:40:06.580 something was going on.

01:40:07.420 As, as Bill Hicks says, Hitler didn't Hitler, uh, Hitler had the right idea. He was just

01:40:13.200 an underachiever.

01:40:17.120 270,000 to get your better, get your numbers up, bro. Get your numbers up.

01:40:21.480 Uh, Bill Hicks had a, had a freaking heckler at one of his shows one time and the guy was

01:40:26.480 driving him crazy and he just laid across the stool and he yelled, Hitler had the right

01:40:30.740 idea. He was just an underachiever. You should have killed them all.

01:40:33.520 Incredible. Incredible, man. I love that guy's show now. Info Wars.

01:40:47.540 That's my favorite conspiracy theory.

01:40:50.540 I saw one just today where they were looking at Bill Hicks and the, and the birthmarks on

01:40:54.920 his neck and Alex Jones has him in the same spot. I'm like, keep it going, please, please.

01:40:58.400 Yes. I hope he is.

01:40:59.960 Yes. Y'all plug away, man.

01:41:04.080 Uh, top.

01:41:04.660 Oh, Dave.

01:41:05.680 Oh, fine. I will go first. Uh, top, top lobster.com. We have all new merchants, stuff like that.

01:41:10.760 Go there. Um, obviously I'll let you do Nephilim death squad. Uh, go to check out tower gang.

01:41:16.820 If you do like some of the offensive shit that we said that I said, uh, tower gangs, our weekly

01:41:21.160 show we do with Clint Russell, who's like some kind of political commentator, Jose Gallison, uh,

01:41:26.340 a retard named Toad and another retard named Colt. And, uh, it's, it's a fun show. So go

01:41:31.160 there, give it a try. You gotta listen to two episodes. Cause the first, if you listen

01:41:35.200 to one, you'll be like, I don't like this shit, but yeah, that's where I'll be at Wednesday.

01:41:38.820 And then go ahead, David, plug away.

01:41:41.200 Um, you can find Nephilim death squad anywhere. We're all over YouTube and rumble. Um, if you

01:41:47.840 are looking for some perks and a little bit of content, our audio, go to our audio. Yeah.

01:41:53.120 We prefer you listen on Spotify, which is the best, vast majority of people are listening to

01:41:57.480 podcasts. So you can find us, uh, Spotify, Apple podcasts, all that good stuff. I also do a show

01:42:03.100 called timeline cleanse. Um, that just went up on Apple and Spotify. So I have a lot of catching up

01:42:09.160 to do 40 episodes to upload there, but you can find that show on a rumble. It's pretty much a rumble

01:42:16.000 exclusive otherwise. And, uh, buckle up because it's a really, really rough show. Uh, it's comedy

01:42:21.920 based, but we watch a little, a lot of harrowing content, uh, and then make fun of it. And also

01:42:26.360 you can find me at David L Corbo on Twitter. Also find us at Nephilim death squad on, um,

01:42:32.240 Instagram. And I think we even got a Facebook group now too. Yeah. Top lobster on Twitter

01:42:36.360 and Instagram and all that we're on all the social media. So type in our names, uh, top

01:42:40.340 lobster, David L Corbo, Nephilim death squad. Find us. We'd like to, we want to hear from

01:42:46.120 you. Badass. All right. I'll stop the recording now.

01:42:51.920 The hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It

01:42:57.300 is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade them that what

01:43:03.460 they see with their eyes is what there is to see, because they'll laugh in the face of

01:43:09.780 an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - December 07, 2024

NDS on Year Zero Podcast： Demons, Giants, and Conspiracies

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