In the shadow of the ancient ones, they never went away. They're still here today. When the last trumpet sounds, and the heavens crack, level up, death squad! Join us this week as Top Lobster and David Lee Corbo are joined by Nicholas Daigle to talk about Genesis 6, the Nephilim and the Ozarks.
01:18:14.780I wasn't able to find anything that belonged to Denver Brake, but I did find this little plot of land where there was a bluff that was owned by the Brake family for several decades.
01:18:27.360Well, looking in old newspapers, I was able to pinpoint that Denver Brake was the grandson of the guy who owned that property, SM Brake, and then after SM Brake died, it went to an AW Brake who was the uncle of Denver Brake.
01:18:46.860Um, I was able to find out who owns the property, got in touch with them. Um, my friend, I have a friend named James who he's really been looking for these sites too.
01:18:58.240And this is where God's sovereignty comes into place because James Clary, he's a local here. He does a talk radio. He, I mean, he talks about all the weird, strange, unusual, Bigfoot, um, dog, man, all this different stuff.
01:19:12.020Oh, he's doing that on, on local radio. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. I'd like to talk to him. Yeah. That'd be dope. Yeah. Um, so I became friends with him cause he did a, he did a segment about a year and a half ago on Newberry.
01:19:24.980So I sent the radio station an email saying I wanted to get in touch with him about Sterling Newberry. I knew he would call as soon as I sent him that because no one knows who Sterling Newberry is.
01:19:36.220I mean, it has, his story has been just buried. Um, so James got in touch with me and I told him where I believe that this mountain would have been at where the seven foot skeleton was buried.
01:19:49.280Turns out the person who owns that used to go to church with James. Um, he called her just, I mean, he didn't know her, but he just, we found out her phone number. He called her. She said, if it was anyone else, she wouldn't have answered the phone, but she knew James because James is actually pretty popular around here because of him owning him being on the radio.
01:20:14.120But also he's a chef and he used to own a really nice restaurant here named Clary's. So anybody who has been in Springfield for decades knows James Clary because of his restaurant. So the only reason she answered the phone is because she knew she went to church with him.
01:20:31.820Hmm. There you go. That's why you go to church, David.
01:20:35.900That's why you go to church. There you go.
01:20:37.560So it was interesting because if I would have called, I wouldn't be here right now because she wouldn't have answered the phone for me.
01:20:43.600So James answered the phone. We went out there, um, to look at her property. That's where I actually started. And I've gone out there multiple times now, and I found several artifacts out there. Well, we've gotten, James and I've gotten associated with this gentleman named Doug, who Doug has actually mapped out all kinds of archaeoastronomy sites all across Missouri.
01:21:08.820And he was interested in, and he was interested in going to go and check out this property with us too.
01:21:13.160Well, he, while we were out there, we found the square shaped berm structure, which I'm going to berm structure is almost like a, it's a type of mound.
01:21:22.340Um, um, but it's interesting because it's kind of like a, almost like a levee kind of, I guess you could say like a small levee. It's, I can't think of how to explain it, but like, it's like a levee.
01:21:37.400Like, have you ever heard of, um, Fort Ancient, the Fort Ancient mounds?
01:21:41.900No, Fort Ancient, I'm not familiar with that.
01:21:43.500And, um, okay. Well, anyway, it's, it's a type of mound, earthen mound structure.
01:21:48.440So, we were out there, James Duggan, and we were looking at this, looking at this, um, earthen mound structure.
01:21:57.040And one thing he noticed that was very...
01:22:05.500One thing that he knows that was pretty interesting is on the inside of this berm structure on this lady's property, there were, like, smaller trees, like, probably only that looked like they were maybe 60 years old.
01:22:22.500But on the outside, on top of this bluff, I mean, you had trees that were, had to be at least 300 years old because of how big they were.
01:22:31.020And Doug made the comment, he was like, you know, this reminds me of, like, an old burial site, or an old cemetery.
01:22:39.980Well, when I was researching the break property, I found out that there was actually a break cemetery, a family cemetery.
01:22:48.800In that berm structure, that was actually the old break family cemetery, which I thought was pretty...
01:22:54.980They used trees instead of headstones?
01:22:56.600No, no, the trees re-grew, they re-grew after years of the crack.
01:23:00.140Yeah, sorry, that's, I didn't make that connection.
01:23:02.540So, because the trees were newer in there, at one point, it was clear on the inside of that berm structure.
01:23:09.340So, that's what made him think that it was an old cemetery, because on the outside, I mean, you have two or 300-year-old trees, but on the inside of this berm structure, there was nothing.
01:23:18.780So, we put together that that was the old break cemetery, and most of them had been moved.
01:23:28.140The cemetery had, the cemetery is no longer an active cemetery.
01:23:33.040They actually moved them to another location called Shiloh Baptist Cemetery, but I've heard that a lot of cemeteries that we have now were most likely they're resting places of prehistoric people.
01:24:12.880Well, yeah, I think, so, like, all these old cemeteries that we have from early pioneer days, I really think they just buried on top of where the Native Americans buried.
01:24:23.380Because the Native Americans, they would have buried in places that were higher up, so that way water erosion wouldn't wash the bodies away.
01:24:32.100I mean, they buried in the most opportune places, or the most optimal places.
01:24:37.740So, anyway, going back, I think that that shallow burial mound with the seven-foot skeleton was most likely in that berm structure.
01:24:49.540And what I think is whenever the Brake family, they were, whenever they were possibly maybe burying a loved one, they might have unearthed one of these skeletons and then got in touch with Sterling Newberry to come do this excavation.
01:25:08.400Because they knew it wasn't one of them, because they knew it wasn't one of their descendants that they were burying.
01:25:13.600And what's interesting is, I had mentioned that a lot of the people that were buried in Brake Cemetery had been moved to Shiloh Baptist Cemetery.
01:25:22.260At one point, the Brake family went to Shiloh Baptist.
01:25:27.000Sterling Newberry was the pastor at Shiloh Baptist.
01:25:33.440I'm thinking, I'm thinking that the Brake family must have unearthed the shallow mound, and they notified Sterling Newberry, because they knew he was an amateur archaeologist as well, besides their pastor.
01:25:47.000And that's when he went, and him, William Sarton, who he had worked with William Sarton in the past, the miner, and Denver Brake unearthed the seven-foot skeleton.
01:25:57.840And it was very interesting in how these, the seven-foot skeleton was unearthed, because, like I said, you had eight different skeletons that were unearthed.
01:26:08.420One was seven-foot, but they were layered, where one was laying east to west, the other one was laying north to south.
01:27:11.120But I've gone to adjacent cemeteries, and I've found random breaks, members of the Break Family, in all these other cemeteries off the James River, in other cemeteries that would have been close to where the original Break Family Cemetery was at.
01:27:27.220So I guess what I just said there might actually make sense, because even if they don't dig up their loved ones, they're like, we're not burying them here anymore because of what they found.
01:27:36.500Well, I would ponder the spiritual ramifications of burying my... I mean, are they definitively Christian?
01:28:36.060Well, that's, I mean, I know that that doesn't have to necessarily be a Christian symbol as much as it is, because you think about the bear, you think about Ursa Major, Ursa Minor, and the cross is, there's something called the celestial crux, which is a formation, a star formation.
01:28:53.340So, yeah, so maybe there's something there, you know, because we're thinking about astrology, right?
01:29:00.500I mean, we were talking about that only moments ago.
01:29:03.340And so these symbols that, what was it?
01:30:52.700So, at the end of episode one in Game of Thrones, and it's something that they never even really touch on again.
01:30:57.180They just kind of put it up, but they imply that the people from beyond the wall or those, like, zombie-like creatures have killed a bunch of northern men.
01:31:04.800And they stacked them or put their bodies in this sort of a shape, like, spoke of a wheel.
01:31:25.400But that is the exact same thing as time, right?
01:31:29.540Because as we move through the seasons, we also move through, like, we're supposedly, you know, at one moment within the Tropic of Cancer and another moment within a different astrological formation.
01:31:40.480So, it's all in reference to time and the cyclical nature of time.
01:31:45.000But, you know, within Buddhism, there's an element of reincarnation.
01:31:49.240But once again, you know, astrology, this is – comes from a culture with a deep understanding of astrology.
01:31:55.800And every single time you go to any of these cultures, who taught them?
01:32:03.640Something that I wanted to talk about as we're getting – you know, we're coming to the – towards the end of the show here.
01:32:09.740And I didn't want to end it without talking about the idea of post-flood Nephilim, post-flood giants.
01:32:15.860You know, I guess the theories on how these things might have survived and then examples of, you know, post-flood giants.
01:32:24.180So, I mean, I think I adhere to the – I mean, whenever you look back in Genesis 6, it says the Nephilim were on the earth in those days and also afterwards when the sons of God went into the daughters of man.
01:32:38.880So, when I look at that – and Mondo Gonzalez, who actually wrote the foreword for my book, he explained it to me this way.
01:32:46.200When Moses is writing that, he's standing before the promised land, and he's seeing the giants in the promised land, and he is saying the Nephilim were on the earth in those days, meaning before the flood, and afterwards when the sons of God went into the daughters of man.
01:33:02.160Almost as if it's like a continuous thing, that it wasn't just a one-and-done occurrence, but that could these fallen entities have had multiple occurrences where they've gone into the daughters of man, creating these hybrids, which could even point even to modern-day alien abductions.
01:33:26.420I mean, I tend to think – so, what do you think about the idea that –
01:33:31.260Why does it look like they're failing then?
01:33:32.940Or are they just not making them as giants right now?
01:33:36.400Oh, I wonder if the point is giants or the point specifically is hybridization because what we come into – I think even he who shall not be named, you know, within the concept of –
01:33:54.360But the idea of a birthright, right, an inheritance, what mankind inherits because of the coming of Christ, and these things being kicked out of these heavenly realms, you know, in the abyss, et cetera, et cetera, right?
01:34:18.800And so, if they can supersede that condemnation by creating something that does have rights to an inheritance, and does that thing necessarily have to be – it's almost like these hybrided creatures serve a multitude of purposes.
01:34:41.860So, whereas the cryptid phenomenon sometimes looks like there might even be a government, you know, sort of scientific experiment angle to it, thereby you could start to draw the conclusion.
01:34:57.700Perhaps you could draw the conclusion that these things might be good assets, and that comes up again and again, right?
01:35:02.980The idea of an asset, like let's say for military purposes, it might be good to have like a seven-foot, eight-foot tall dog man that's like, you know, virtually bulletproof, super strong.
01:35:11.880Yeah, but that's not how you rule today.
01:35:13.480No, but then on the other side of it, you have the black-eyed children, and that seems to be the big problem.
01:35:19.580I would call it a problem because over and over again, you hear stories from abductee victims where these aliens that have, you know, inseminated them one way or another, you give birth or you don't give birth, suddenly the pregnancy is mysteriously vanished, and then years down the line.
01:35:37.080I think this happened specifically with Karen Wilkinson, but it's not a story that's alone in a vacuum.
01:35:41.460This is something I've heard elsewhere as well.
01:35:43.720She'll be reintroduced to these children, and the ETs, whatever the hell you want to call them, are saying, hey, maybe you can interact with this thing because it's not working very well, and it seems to need its mother for whatever reason, and then she describes it as like these kids look like kids in visage, but there's something fundamentally wrong with them.
01:36:05.220So that one to me seems like the other things might have a Nephilim, a giant, where you can control and rule nations with those things, right?
01:36:18.040And hybrids and creatures, well, you could do a lot of, let's say, enforcing with those things, right?
01:36:24.740But then you have these soft human mashups that look human for all intents and purposes, but the spirit's just not there, and they're not connecting.
01:36:36.540That thing to me seems like they're trying to, that's the inheritance aspect.
01:36:41.600They want to create something that inherits, you know, the ability to go to heaven, maybe, is a good thing that they don't have access to anymore.
01:36:50.620You know, and maybe because we've already established, it seems that God created a thing, and if you want to know how to adjust this thing, right, control, shift, Z will give you access to this.
01:37:01.480Marriage seems to be an important thing, so that seems to be why they took wives and they married them in exchange for coveted knowledge and things like that.
01:37:10.520Marriage might be one system by which you can gain access to a thing that you no longer had access to or didn't have it previously.
01:44:01.100I mean, your book focuses on Genesis 6, 1 through 5.
01:44:06.780But one of my favorite scriptures, and just as like going back to what you said about God being just and then his grace versus his justice, right?
01:44:18.920So, he had the grace to be like, this has to be completely wiped out.
01:44:23.700So, but Genesis 6, 6, the verse right after says, it repented the Lord that he made man on earth, grieved him at his heart.
01:44:55.080I think of, was that God, and this is just my thought, was that God in that moment, whenever he's holding the dog, he has tears rolling down his eyes, and he's like, I got to put this dog down because I don't have the cure.
01:45:30.740It repented him that he had made man on the earth.
01:45:34.540So, it's like, he probably, again, I guess maybe this gets into pre-Adamite stuff of what was going on before Adam, but he made man and then put him on the earth.
01:45:43.560Knowing, like, this place was already kind of, like, jacked up.
01:45:47.020He's like, man, I shouldn't, maybe I shouldn't have put them on this place.
01:45:50.000Serpents in the garden and everything.
01:45:59.460Imagine you, like, you know, you bring a child into this world, and then you put him in the world, and you just see what the world does to him.
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