Nephilim Death Squad - Orthodoxy and Cain's Messiah Complex w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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00:02:34.680 Fridays are for the Lord.

00:02:35.720 And so we have Ed Mabry back with us.

00:02:38.280 Ed, it's been a while.

00:02:39.120 How have you been, man?

00:02:40.320 Good.

00:02:40.760 It has been a while.

00:02:41.640 It's an annoying job.

00:02:42.920 I mean, if they could just pay me without making me work, that's the only thing.

00:02:46.780 That's the only barrier.

00:02:48.340 Yeah.

00:02:48.720 That's the dream.

00:02:49.380 That is the dream, right?

00:02:50.460 Pay me without making me work.

00:02:52.460 i'm actually upset with them we we tried to ask where he's working he won't give us the

00:02:56.180 information because i want to call them and say hey can you just free up fridays if you know

00:03:01.360 whatever you do who is this yeah don't worry about who it is just do me a favor and free up

00:03:06.740 fridays um before we get into this conversation ed let's let's talk about where people can find

00:03:11.260 all your work because you have a ton of it sure so uh the main place is well two main places one

00:03:17.180 is faithbyreason.net that is the website the legacy website that which i have been on for

00:03:22.940 well over a decade now that's also so you'll you'll get all my all the things i've been teaching

00:03:28.460 there for a really long time the full full revelation series also the genesis series which

00:03:33.980 i need to update there a little bit more because it's actually behind and also this is where you

00:03:37.660 access the spiritual warfare course which is in month number two we started in april and we are

00:03:44.620 now halfway through May. So it's been going amazing. We've had some great people sign up

00:03:50.520 and people have been going through the lessons and they've just been raving about how much it's

00:03:54.460 helped them so far. It's a whole one-year course and everything builds on itself. We have in three

00:04:01.060 month chunks where the first three months is all about defense, getting to know who you are

00:04:04.820 uniquely because that's important because the way you are attacked spiritually is through who you

00:04:10.500 are uniquely. So you have to know that because you know what? Your spiritual enemy knows who you are

00:04:14.120 better than you do and knows how to attack you specifically and we go through that in the first

00:04:19.480 three months the next three months we go on offense and then three months after that we get

00:04:25.040 into special situations things like generational curses and addictions and all sorts of things like

00:04:30.620 that and you know situations that are really difficult even jesus had a bit of difficulty

00:04:36.620 with a couple of uh with a certain demons where he normally would cast him out one time he tried

00:04:40.820 to cast a demon out and nothing happened he had to ask the demon its name and yes you know that

00:04:45.920 so and then then the last quarter is about being generative we want to train you to do what we do

00:04:52.300 our our goal myself and john linhardt my partner is to make this course obsolete to get to the

00:04:57.720 point where there's so many of you who know this and you tell other people and you teach them you

00:05:00.960 don't need us anymore so we want to make you autonomous the last three months is teaching

00:05:05.260 you how to teach other people this and then we can just multiply from there and just create an army

00:05:09.700 that's awesome that's huge information i had an idea a long time ago about a t-shirt

00:05:15.160 where it's like a worldwide exorcism and it's like a joke of a priest in a in a plane that

00:05:20.340 already happened they did like the it was a worldwide baptism there was a flood well how

00:05:24.380 much did it cost you know a priest in a plane and he's like spraying holy water but they're

00:05:31.360 chemtrails over the over the what you're doing what you guys are doing is basically yeah it's

00:05:36.220 it's a worldwide uh exorcism in a way yeah yeah that's um the timing of it is huge too right

00:05:43.280 because as the world descends further into chaos it it becomes uh more and more important yeah and

00:05:48.800 i know that you know the price was an issue for some people i totally get it and we're we're

00:05:52.200 seeing we can do with that but what we do i have right now if you sign up you get the first three

00:05:55.240 months half off it's a year long right yes a year long yeah i mean it's a year long well you know

00:06:02.100 It's an intensive course, and you're learning things you're not going to learn anywhere else.

00:06:06.320 I know that because a lot of John's material is proprietary.

00:06:08.900 It's copywritten, and it's only been for the people he's been coaching, and we're giving you this.

00:06:13.860 That course that he is providing as part of this course is $700 on its own, the retail, and that's being thrown in.

00:06:20.000 It's also a labor because you're going to be doing this.

00:06:22.200 Like, you're doing this for a year.

00:06:24.360 I have two jobs, so I have my regular job.

00:06:27.540 I have this job, and then I try to make time to be on podcasts.

00:06:29.780 with it's it's it's a bit of a strain but it's it's a lot of work but it's it's it's passion

00:06:34.260 and so we love doing it but it's it's a lot we put into it when you see the materials that you're

00:06:38.560 getting the videos you're getting access to the books you're getting access to and and private

00:06:43.240 coaching if you're at the higher tier we we just had our um our our coaching session for the month

00:06:48.760 of april john and i did that with with the group who signed up for that level and it's supposed to

00:06:53.000 be 90 minutes it went to two hours and because it was just that amazing and people were just

00:06:58.700 learning and growing so much. I would have gone another hour, but I just had another obligation

00:07:02.340 I need to get to, but I would have been happy doing it for three hours. It was just that

00:07:06.620 amazing and intense with what people were learning and the situation they were bringing to us and

00:07:12.840 what we were able to coach them through, because that's my passion and John's passion is coaching

00:07:16.520 people, teaching them to have victory in spiritual warfare and to grow their relationship with God.

00:07:24.200 yeah i well you know it's hard to put a value on that really but um like i said earlier as the

00:07:31.500 world descends further into chaos this sort of thing becomes more and more important and

00:07:35.100 you know we're kind of at this edge of something that might cause people to fall away from their

00:07:40.860 faith that's at least been the conversation that's been happening you know on on government

00:07:45.080 officials yeah and um and that thing also i mean some of the conversations we've been having

00:07:50.060 uh lately i guess since we've last spoken to ed was like what like this this idea of what the

00:07:54.920 church is yeah that's been what exactly and i think it comes in many forms uh i was telling

00:08:00.260 ed a little bit about like the argument that we had before with the the uh i'm gonna call them

00:08:06.040 baptist but uh with the orthodox people yeah and i'm like there's a big problem there it's like

00:08:10.860 i don't know people are gonna people if they do throw the idea of money at you or whatever like

00:08:16.480 you know, you're charging for a course. It's not charging for salvation, which is kind of like

00:08:21.560 one of the things that we ran into with these dudes. Did you know that, Ed? I don't know that

00:08:27.160 this is, I don't want to throw all of orthodoxy, but we have found churches that are charging and

00:08:31.980 they legitimize it one way or another. It's, you got to pay for this. You got to pay for the robes

00:08:36.720 that it happens in. You got to do this, but there's ranges. We found $250 for a baptism

00:08:42.660 all the way up to a thousand dollars for a baptism and the main problem here is that

00:08:47.200 like when you start to investigate a little bit further into what they think their doctrine

00:08:51.540 we go well okay you know if if i'm in a protestant church most of the time most of the time all the

00:08:57.860 time i'll say hey is it necessary to be baptized and they go no but you should you definitely

00:09:02.360 should exactly is is it necessary towards salvation towards my salvation and they'll be like

00:09:07.360 no but uh if you want to get baptized you can't right the orthodox church when you start to read

00:09:12.700 into it which is like again this is a rabbit hole i've been down the last week and i'm like i kind

00:09:16.160 of regret going down it because i'm like the more i dig the more i see the more dead saints i see

00:09:20.120 that they're kissing it's just very strange it's it's for some fascinating fruit though things that

00:09:23.640 i didn't know so in that spirit it's you know yeah so i don't regret that you did that i mean

00:09:28.140 a main issue that i've been having with them is that they say well in order to be saved or in

00:09:33.320 order to receive salvation number one you must be part of the orthodox church the church is that

00:09:38.780 what they say yeah that's this is this is why i'm fighting with them david that's a crazy

00:09:43.220 because i heard them say you're not christian right right you and and you're not you're not

00:09:48.200 fully christian yeah right well no i mean no it depends on who you talk to and how like if they

00:09:54.060 how much they like to insult you but most of these people i'm i'm watching from the sidelines

00:09:58.620 like they won't tell me that i'm not fully christian but they do that kind of like well 0.97

00:10:02.420 you know that kind of shit and i'm like all right whatever um they believe you have to be part of 0.94

00:10:07.000 their church to uh receive god's grace salvation i was like ah the bible doesn't say that then they 0.99

00:10:12.240 say oh what are you sola scriptura and i go well yeah actually just read the bible what it says

00:10:16.760 there um but then you circle and you loop a little bit more and i go okay so how do i join the church

00:10:23.440 like what are the prerequisites to join it and they go well you have to be baptized by the church

00:10:28.380 into the church and i go okay cool and then you know it comes up there's a fee for baptism which

00:10:33.240 is very i find that very funny because it's like this one barrier in the loophole of it's a

00:10:40.000 financial barrier it's a financial barrier in the loophole of if i want to receive eternal

00:10:43.460 salvation through this one church and now you set up the rules that it's just through you and i'm 0.68

00:10:47.040 like this is a huge problem guys nobody sees this yeah yeah shut up proddy and i'm like all right 0.95

00:10:52.620 I guess I'll shut up. 0.54

00:10:53.680 What do you think about this? 1.00

00:10:56.380 Well, I joked, tongue slightly in cheek, right before we came on, as I call orthodoxy, you know, Catholicism's retarded cousin. 0.99

00:11:05.640 It looks nearly in concern about Catholicism. 0.99

00:11:08.560 Because you know me, I'm not a fan of Catholicism, not the Catholic people. 0.89

00:11:13.800 We've talked about this before. 0.98

00:11:15.200 It's just the Vatican, the catechisms, and all the things that they basically made up.

00:11:18.880 And if you look at how these churches came about, they had this similar origin.

00:11:23.480 It's just that the Orthodox became the Eastern part.

00:11:26.120 We know there was a split.

00:11:26.880 There was this schism, they call it the great schism, between the Western part of the church and the Eastern part.

00:11:31.780 The Western part became what we know commonly as Roman Catholicism.

00:11:34.400 The Eastern part became Eastern Orthodox.

00:11:36.160 But they share a lot of the same ideas because they have the same origin, which is you have to be a part of our organization.

00:11:42.760 We're the only true 100% complete Christians.

00:11:45.460 The rest of you are.

00:11:46.180 I think they look at people who are not Catholic or Orthodox the same way we look at someone who says, oh, I'm just spiritual.

00:11:52.120 I believe in God.

00:11:53.160 But I very condescending attitude that they give me.

00:11:57.960 And yeah.

00:11:58.360 And I've always been very like, like, like I sense it.

00:12:01.500 I perceive that.

00:12:02.140 But I go, all right.

00:12:04.500 But let me let me tell you what really kicked this off.

00:12:07.300 There was a meme from a Catholic page and it was a see if I can find it.

00:12:11.540 Go ahead.

00:12:11.800 Yeah, it was talking about how to how to pray.

00:12:14.840 and there's a box and it's like a chart so one way you can pray is directly to god and that goes

00:12:20.300 like that goes across this way so man god on this side another way you can pray is you can go this

00:12:25.980 way to the saints and then they could pray to god for you or you can go this way to mary and then

00:12:31.560 she could pray to god for you and i just said seems like a waste of time and let me tell you 0.88

00:12:36.700 man it's been it's been a week of being attacked by i understand being attacked by catholics for 0.92

00:12:41.540 this but then i'm like i look to my left and right and i was like oh man i thought you guys the 0.70

00:12:45.200 orthodox dudes ortho bros i thought you guys were chill with me they're like no no like we we really 0.98

00:12:51.000 value we venerate our saints and i was like dog you're wasting time these guys are dead you're

00:12:55.100 praying to you're praying to dead people when you can jesus died so that we can approach the throne

00:13:00.000 the throne boldly without sin it's it's wild what an insult it is it's an insult not just to us it's

00:13:07.740 an insult to to jesus to say that okay we need another mediator even though the bible clearly

00:13:12.440 says there's only one mediator between god between man god and that is jesus he's our mediator he is

00:13:17.760 we don't need a another human being alive i don't know if i can zoom in on this i'm sorry

00:13:22.760 real quick no of course not um but this uh oh there we go this is the the chart and it's just

00:13:32.480 like you know they thought it was a slick way to explain like no it's not really a big deal

00:13:38.360 but what they haven't realized here is that you have either a direct line to god through jesus

00:13:47.060 christ or you can take a convoluted route through all the angels and the saints or mama mary as they

00:13:54.780 put it and it's just fascinating because this on its face goes so then what's the point and the

00:14:00.460 crazy part is like this show the entire show that we do is about well not in the entire show but

00:14:05.420 like we're talking about the divine feminine which is right there and that's in what mary is is

00:14:10.300 constantly switched around with that and i feel bad for mary you know because yeah i think she's

00:14:14.980 in this i believe that she is horrified i think she's in in heaven in the throne in heaven now

00:14:20.480 horrified that this is being done in her name but it's not her and i'm just gonna piss people

00:14:24.820 whatever be pissed off mary the the mary that they talk about is not the the physical mother of jesus 0.83

00:14:32.020 that is the old mother goddess that they renamed what catholicism orthodoxy is it's basically it's

00:14:38.580 an amalgamation of christianity and paganism all they did was they took the pagan the old pagan

00:14:43.860 religions of rome and of of all the different districts that the romans conquered all the

00:14:48.020 different people and all the different pagan religions and they just they took christianity

00:14:52.100 When Constantine made Christianity legal and his third successor, Theodosius, made Christianity the official religion that you were forced to convert.

00:15:00.420 And of course, there was a ruckus there.

00:15:02.180 They wanted to make it more palatable to the pagans.

00:15:04.960 And so what they did was they just took all the pagan gods and they slapped Christian names on them.

00:15:10.140 Romulus and Remus, who were the founders of the mythological founders of Rome, became Peter and Paul. 0.57

00:15:15.320 All of their various and sundry gods became the saints.

00:15:18.340 and the mother goddess who began with Semiramis, Nimrod's wife,

00:15:23.680 who became Ishtar, Astarte, Ashtaroth, Aphrodite, Venus, Isis.

00:15:29.940 She became Mary.

00:15:31.400 That's why you have all these different religions all over the world

00:15:35.120 who all have that mother-child statue.

00:15:37.380 You've seen it.

00:15:39.220 There's a divine mother holding the divine little baby,

00:15:42.040 suckling on her teeth or whatever.

00:15:43.360 You see it in the Middle East. 0.98

00:15:45.020 You see it in China.

00:15:45.820 You see it in the Americas. 0.79

00:15:46.820 Why? 0.94

00:15:46.960 Because when Babel was divided, when the nations were divided by language, they all took that same paganism into their individual nations, and that's why they all have the same mother-child cult. 0.78

00:15:59.060 And when Catholicism came around, the mother goddess, they just say, okay, this is Mary now. 0.76

00:16:05.300 And her little baby, who is Tammuz or Horus or Dionysus or whoever, depending on the pagan cult, that became Jesus.

00:16:18.200 It's not Mary. It has nothing to do with her.

00:16:19.180 We don't pray to Mary.

00:16:20.860 We don't pray to Mary.

00:16:22.440 It doesn't make any sense.

00:16:23.400 i saw somebody in the chat talking about um uh sort of was it the mary apparition in guadalupe

00:16:29.740 the the fatima this is this is why this gains so much steam it's like i stepped in it on the day

00:16:36.340 before uh fatima that's right yeah the pope was coming out and he was doing like maybe two days

00:16:41.060 before so these guys are ready they're like primed to go worship the ufo or whatever that came down

00:16:46.040 and that's the thing is with the fatima incident which was seen by over 70 000 people it was like

00:16:51.860 a quarter of a million people at the location this year it's crazy it was they you know this

00:16:56.500 entity was able to tell them reliably come back on this day i'm going to be here but there were

00:17:02.360 reports of um light discs buzzing noises um uh something that looked like a falling leaf that

00:17:11.440 would sway back and forth as it came down this silver disc there was a lot i think la marzulli

00:17:16.380 actually does a fantastic job of unpacking this there was a lot of ufo um descriptives that

00:17:23.220 accompany that and and then of course when you go into ufo lore there is as the bledsoes put it the

00:17:29.480 lady who identifies herself as mary as the holy spirit but also as ishtar as all these other

00:17:36.560 things um so this this divine feminine deception seems to be tied directly into the ufo deception

00:17:43.340 And then one of the things that we talk about constantly is in the Bible, the only mention of the Queen of Heaven, which is a fantastic name that these churches have given to Mary, because the only mention of the Queen of Heaven is in Jeremiah.

00:17:56.200 It's a negative connotation.

00:17:57.780 And it seems that everybody, biblical scholars agree this is a solo scriptural, bro.

00:18:02.400 I don't know.

00:18:02.820 I guess I was just like, hey, you know, it's a funny thing, because what happens is you go.

00:18:06.780 Let's say you love it.

00:18:07.580 You go Queen of Heaven.

00:18:09.080 Fantastic.

00:18:09.760 I want to go and find anything in the Bible that talks about this because I want to learn more.

00:18:13.740 All you're going to find is Jeremiah, where women have given offerings to the Queen of Heaven and aroused God's anger.

00:18:22.000 Yep, exactly.

00:18:22.860 They get very mad when that's pointed out.

00:18:24.940 Oh, yeah, they get very mad.

00:18:25.980 But that's why they hate the idea of sola scriptura, because sola scriptura means that the Bible is our ultimate arbiter of truth.

00:18:34.000 But they say, no, no, no, the Bible is just one of God's words.

00:18:37.440 The other is our sacred traditions.

00:18:39.480 the church fathers, the Orthodox are really big on the church fathers. But interestingly,

00:18:43.800 they're only big on the church fathers who agree with their doctrine. They won't agree. They're

00:18:47.640 not down with the other church fathers who don't. People like, you know, even from the Syrian 1.00

00:18:50.760 or certain, they like Irenaeus, but only certain things that Irenaeus says. Like when Irenaeus

00:18:56.120 talks about the end times, oh no, they don't like that part. Or Asubius, some of the stuff

00:18:59.940 Asubius says, oh yeah, that's great. But other things they don't like, which I find really

00:19:03.460 interesting because again, you know, Jay Dyer, very smart guy, very well researched.

00:19:07.300 um and he you know also a good guy i will say like just a really yeah his wife i've got no

00:19:14.680 problem with him personally but he is very much in the orthodoxy he always talks about the church

00:19:18.080 fathers and they say this you know and the protestants believe this other thing like well

00:19:22.020 you know there are certain church fathers who who who echo exactly what you say the protestants

00:19:27.720 are getting wrong so why don't you quote that church father or that section what the church

00:19:32.980 father says because i know he's against like for example the doctrine of the rapture

00:19:37.060 And he says, oh, no, that's the church fathers didn't believe that. Absolutely not. Ephraim the Syrian wrote about it a lot. Irenaeus, who was a second generation disciple of the apostle John, he actually knew the apostle John who penned the book of Revelation towards the end of his life.

00:19:51.320 So he had a pretty close tie-in to an actual disciple of Jesus, and he spoke about the end times, and he spoke about a rapture.

00:19:59.500 He actually spoke about a rapture happening before the tribulation.

00:20:02.300 Imagine that.

00:20:03.400 So that's what I find disingenuous about this is that they want to say the Bible is only part of it, but you have to believe in the church fathers.

00:20:10.480 Again, church fathers did great work, but what they wrote isn't scripture, and they were wrong about certain things.

00:20:17.840 Augustine was wrong about a lot of things.

00:20:19.620 um augustine didn't believe in the nephilim he didn't he augustine he was one of the ones who

00:20:25.340 took the bible and made it less supernatural because he was embarrassed about the idea of

00:20:29.520 of angels having intercourse with women so he de-spiritualized it that's not a good thing and

00:20:35.040 he was a church father he had some good writings but some of them were not so my point is that

00:20:39.840 you can read the commentary and the works of all these different people and i will admit that there

00:20:45.520 even some um some catholic uh priests who have written some really really good stuff but it's

00:20:52.900 not scripture it has to match the word of god and that's otherwise these are just men right i mean

00:20:58.100 father seraphim rose wrote a lot of really uh fascinating stuff on a coming ufo uh deception

00:21:04.880 and i've not read his book but i've seen excerpts and i've seen i'll say something and they go

00:21:09.800 actually father seraphim rose has something fascinating to say about that and i'd look at

00:21:13.000 it and go oh yeah i kind of agree with that is it so it's like but these are just yeah these are

00:21:17.200 these are just men right who are father father malachi martin i am a huge fan of he was a jesuit

00:21:22.780 of all things he left the order very brilliant man he wrote the keys to this blood and windswept

00:21:27.780 house which i recommend anyone reads if they want to get into spiritual warfare because he was an

00:21:32.980 exorcist and but you know he he was a he was a catholic he was a jesuit even even like i've been

00:21:41.560 skimming through some of Calvin's work

00:21:43.680 because Matt has some stuff back here. I took one

00:21:45.700 of the books and I'm like, yeah, dude's

00:21:47.680 kind of solid.

00:21:49.600 He's been like a lot of the stuff he said. I mean, I

00:21:51.640 guess the Calvinism, the idea

00:21:53.580 of predetermination where you go is like one

00:21:55.680 thing of what he thought, but like he's written

00:21:57.680 many books and a lot of his books. I'm like, there's

00:21:59.640 some good work in here. I don't

00:22:01.660 really know what to do. Yeah, we can have a talk

00:22:03.780 about Calvinism maybe when I get down there for

00:22:05.620 Bohemian Grove because there's some

00:22:07.200 some of the five point Calvinism

00:22:09.580 has has that's have some serious issues.

00:22:11.560 That doesn't mean that everything that Calvin said was wrong.

00:22:14.080 Calvin was a Christian, but I have some disagreements with some, with probably four of the five

00:22:18.720 points of five-point Calvinism, but that doesn't, but so again, we, and the problem is that

00:22:23.960 some of them disagree with the Bible.

00:22:25.960 So when I say sola scriptura, what that means is that the Bible is the Rosetta Stone.

00:22:31.400 The Bible is, is, should be the, it should be a foundation by which we test everything.

00:22:38.700 Right.

00:22:39.460 Yeah.

00:22:39.740 i mean i'm trying i'm trying and i'm sure i fail i fail probably more than most people but

00:22:44.100 like yeah lately i've been looking around me it's it's been a little disheartening ed well it just

00:22:50.020 kind of goes to show you there's not just one church well i look yeah like every church has

00:22:54.320 got something wrong a hole in their game something real wrong too and it's like a lot of it's being

00:22:59.040 exposed horrifically so like we're looking at the orthodox and they've been taking a beating lately

00:23:03.520 because of well it's just i mean just find out what they believe and you go whoa that's

00:23:07.180 the kissing of the the bones based i thought that was extra crazy because that's like i don't know

00:23:15.000 how you defend that oh yeah yeah catholics have i'm going to say catholics as a whole but

00:23:20.320 doesn't the catholic church have a skull that they proclaim to be mary skull and then they

00:23:26.780 have a whole person's body but they're like yeah she hasn't decayed so she's blessed and i'm like

00:23:31.740 this is wild it's interesting i don't i don't you maybe i'm not saying you're wrong about that i

00:23:35.800 don't know i do know that they claim to have the bones of peter um yeah there but it was

00:23:41.720 and and when when my wife and i when we visited rome a few breaks yeah right before covet no we

00:23:47.160 went into we visited vatican city and they have a lot of the old popes like mummified you can

00:23:51.680 actually see their mummified bodies excuse me in saint peter's basilica which is very kind of crazy

00:23:57.180 yeah honestly kind of creepy i'm not i'm not uh dumb enough to say that it doesn't do anything

00:24:03.240 it probably might do listen there's there's probably some sort of like power in this up

00:24:07.260 i'm like the idea of the prophesying head of john the baptist yeah but you probably shouldn't do

00:24:11.880 that like yeah there is in our spiritual warfare class we're going to go over some of this stuff

00:24:17.080 like a little later on in the year because there are two like schools of thought one school of

00:24:21.980 thought is that you know all this stuff is like in any of these rituals and that they do with

00:24:26.480 with bones with blood it doesn't it doesn't really do any yeah it doesn't really do anything

00:24:30.200 it's all fake at all not no not at all i'm sure one of those then the other school of thought is

00:24:35.640 that like you know everything mystical has power it's somewhere in between there is power one of

00:24:41.640 the things i actually talked about in oh i think is in the in my last april lesson was we talked

00:24:49.320 about spiritual laws that that that all spiritual entities including god himself are subject to god

00:24:54.600 subjects himself to his laws and one of those laws is that so that man is sovereign that man cannot

00:25:03.560 in other words that you cannot be possessed without giving some type of tacit permission

00:25:08.360 sure yeah so so when when you are possessed or even when you're oppressed what you have to look

00:25:14.200 at in your life is what kind of agreements have you made because everything in a spiritual realm

00:25:18.120 is done through words and covenants and i and i have there's an exercise that i have people do

00:25:22.760 in the warfare class where they where they write down the things that they say because we will say

00:25:27.640 things that we either either come from us or we heard from our parents and we'll say it's like

00:25:32.360 you know what things never work out for me you know i oh i'm so unlucky i have bad luck or you

00:25:38.040 know you know always a bridesmaid never a bride or you know i'm never going to find love when you

00:25:42.760 say those things yourself you're cursing you you are literally entering to a covenant because a

00:25:48.040 A covenant is when you speak something out loud and you get into agreement with it.

00:25:52.760 If you are always saying something negative over your life, you are entering a covenant.

00:25:57.420 And when you enter a covenant, you have given these entities the rights to come in and make

00:26:01.760 it happen.

00:26:02.340 So when you say, nothing ever works out for me, and you say that all the time, the entities

00:26:06.220 now have a legal power to say, yeah, now I can make things not work out for you because

00:26:11.080 you've given me the authority through your words.

00:26:14.200 So what you have to do is the opposite.

00:26:16.040 you speak the bible over that and say you know i'm blessed and highly favored you speak the

00:26:20.800 you speak what the bible says over it and you you intentionally repent from that so that's one of

00:26:25.460 those there's a freebie for you as far as spiritual warfare is concerned you have to give these

00:26:29.680 entities a right to that even if you're not doing it direct if you're playing with a ouija board if

00:26:34.680 you're listening to certain kind of demonic music as it were you're not saying come possess me but

00:26:38.940 what you're doing is you're opening the door and you're giving them legal right that they do not

00:26:42.840 have otherwise yeah i think in the sense of like let's say the music or the things that you're

00:26:48.420 watching there are degrees to consent as well right so some things kick the door wide open

00:26:53.440 some things uh they might open it a millimeter at a time and it's like are you going to experience

00:27:00.500 um demonic oppression in an overt manner if you're listening to some sort of you know something that

00:27:07.720 has a satanic bent to it as far as music like you might say some of the the more uh caricaturized

00:27:13.600 metal of the 80s and 90s had this satanic bent to it it's like no if you're just playing a song

00:27:18.660 in your car you're probably not going to have an experience but if you get to the extent where it's

00:27:23.080 part of your everyday routine it becomes an idol you've got uh posters on your walls this is you

00:27:29.380 know somebody hops in the car and you just can't wait to be like let me show you this album let me

00:27:33.240 show you this let me listen i gotta show you this particular song and like it's just these

00:27:38.080 millimeter sized um agreements that you're getting on a daily basis to the tunes of you know hundreds

00:27:45.720 of times per week until eventually your life is in disarray and you're not too sure why or you

00:27:52.800 mess with the ouija board and the door's kicked wide open right and as you said it keeps getting

00:27:57.140 incrementally bigger an example of this a world we're going to go over in like this third quarter

00:28:01.220 of it it was our addictions and pornography every every man's struggle is pornography you know i've

00:28:05.840 struggled with everyone does and you know you kick the habit you know i'm not going to watch

00:28:09.280 porn anymore and and once you close that door you will find you know after you like don't watch it

00:28:14.560 or and don't do anything like that for a while you say you know i don't even have the urge to 0.83

00:28:17.640 but then what happens you're sitting watching a movie with your wife oh there's a nude scene

00:28:23.340 now you can stop it right there and say you know what i see what's happening i'm going to stop it 0.99

00:28:26.860 But it's OK with just a nude scene with just just just some just some titties. 0.98

00:28:30.160 But then you see another one and another one. 0.99

00:28:33.280 Now you open that door open again.

00:28:34.780 Oh, you know what? 0.91

00:28:35.500 I've already seen them having, you know, R-rated sex on a on the movie screen. 0.58

00:28:40.580 Let me just go watch this little thing here. 0.69

00:28:43.300 I'll watch the next thing you know.

00:28:45.340 But you're back down the road.

00:28:46.800 But what did what happened?

00:28:47.920 You open the door again and you kept opening it wider and wider.

00:28:51.200 And now you're right back where you started.

00:28:52.920 Let that be a lesson to you. 0.89

00:28:54.160 It's never just some titties, guys. 0.67

00:28:55.660 something crazy is like i uh an admission i probably made it on the show a long time ago 0.52

00:29:02.100 when i was still working with uh legion of skanks okay yeah but when i when i listened

00:29:07.040 to legion of skanks yeah like i would i would go through a lot of periods where i'm like i'm not

00:29:11.580 gonna do this i'm not gonna look at i'm not gonna scroll through it i'm not gonna look at just some

00:29:16.480 titties not gonna goon yeah no gooning no gooning um but i'd listen to legion of skanks it's a

00:29:22.660 comedy show and you go why should three dudes no no they would be overwhelmed like an overwhelming 0.97

00:29:29.360 uh sense of like now like just pause this and just go yeah look at some porn yep and they were i'm

00:29:36.960 like rewind what were they talking about and they were saying any manner of thing but it wasn't

00:29:41.440 necessarily always a sexual manner it's like three guys it's like there's a spirit in the room there's

00:29:46.540 a spirit and it's in their room it's kind of like a spirit of chaos especially when you're dealing

00:29:50.660 with comedy we've learned that a lot but it's also there i think it's something that like i know big

00:29:55.280 j yeah strong like he doesn't even struggle with it he's giving into it he's like yeah he's just

00:29:59.700 doing it all day lewis too i don't think i don't know if dave there are dudes that will look at

00:30:05.000 you like if i go it's been a long time like i'm i'm crushing i've been not getting to go you're 0.97

00:30:09.280 not the fuck for you're not beating you why are you doing that yeah that guy so one of a couple 0.98

00:30:14.420 of those guys actually actively participated they just like give into that and they like they like 0.99

00:30:18.900 that it's like it's a good thing and then they make jokes about and stuff like that and there's

00:30:22.840 something about that spirit whether they're even talking about it directly or not but i'm like oh

00:30:26.680 man that's just like for some reason just jumped into me and i'm just listening in my in my ear

00:30:31.340 crazy stuff yeah yeah i also get mad when you're trying to watch something and all of a sudden it's 0.99

00:30:35.880 like you know unsolicited boobies on the screen and i'm like you suck it have nothing to do with 0.98

00:30:39.800 with the with the you're not watching even a romantic movie it's just you know blah blah 0.99

00:30:43.440 oh look titties yeah it's a woman changing like this has nothing to do with the story it's like

00:30:47.340 a political thriller or whatever i'm watching and why do i need to see you know and of course

00:30:52.060 as a guy you know we like yeah i don't mind you know but you know it's that spirit has permeated

00:30:56.400 hollywood i mean in in the most egregious of ways yeah exactly i want to take a quick step back with

00:31:03.040 going back to the orthodox stuff and praying you know indirectly through mary or whatever

00:31:07.200 and when i've dealt with this i have a friend he's actually a good friend of mine who's very

00:31:12.200 devoutly catholic and we've had our battles here and there and i've kind of just stepped aside

00:31:16.100 because whenever I try to bring the Bible up

00:31:18.220 and say, you know, the Bible doesn't say this,

00:31:19.760 you know, because Catholicism says,

00:31:21.140 and probably orthodoxy as well,

00:31:23.440 that, you know, Mary was an eternal virgin,

00:31:24.980 that she was, I say, okay,

00:31:26.720 but the Bible says she had other kids.

00:31:28.400 Two of them wrote books in the Bible,

00:31:29.860 James and Jude, where Jesus has brothers

00:31:31.640 through his legal father, Joseph.

00:31:33.360 So how can you say she was all eternally a virgin

00:31:35.260 and she had more kids?

00:31:37.620 He says, well, you know.

00:31:37.940 I run across that.

00:31:39.080 Somebody said that Jude, they're like,

00:31:40.460 oh, Jude was just like brother, as you say,

00:31:42.440 like my brother, like that kind of thing.

00:31:43.920 And I was like, I don't know.

00:31:45.240 It says Jude, brother of Jesus.

00:31:47.620 Right.

00:31:48.060 Well, it says in Matthew, they say, you know what, isn't, because when Jesus started preaching

00:31:53.140 and teaching and they said, wait a minute, this is, isn't this a carpenter's son?

00:31:56.520 And, you know, isn't his brother, doesn't he have his three brothers of James, Jude,

00:32:00.940 Jude asks us, but same Jude, Jude and Jonas and his sisters.

00:32:05.100 So Jesus had three half brothers and at least two sisters.

00:32:09.140 And there, and you can't say that.

00:32:10.720 And I asked my friend about that and he says, oh no, that means cousin.

00:32:13.580 I'm like, no, dog, you can't do that because that's in Greek.

00:32:15.780 Greek is a very precise language.

00:32:17.440 There's a different word for brother as opposed to cousin.

00:32:20.720 And that word used, there is brother. 0.89

00:32:22.640 So either Catholicism is right or the Bible is right. 0.99

00:32:26.100 They can't both be. 0.98

00:32:27.440 And you have to make a decision.

00:32:28.940 But with Catholicism and even Orthodox,

00:32:32.200 they believe that if there's a conflict between their sacred teachings and the Bible,

00:32:37.360 they actually put their sacred teachings ahead of the Bible because it's a newer revelation.

00:32:40.780 yeah because as you're saying it here i'm like okay he has but if i venerated mary to a degree

00:32:47.640 that was probably unhealthy and she was the eternal virgin and all these other things then i

00:32:53.080 might have a huge problem with it but as you're sitting here saying i'm like well if that's what

00:32:56.640 it says you know if i look at that and and i read that and i go yeah ed mabry's interpretation

00:33:01.720 seems pretty sound that's what i'm getting remember too i don't have a problem with that

00:33:04.600 So on on one side of me, I've got these guys, which I think that it's a very it's obviously very dangerous territory to be in, because now you're just excluding the Bible and you're doing some weird, wacky shit and relying on tradition.

00:33:20.120 On the other side of me, I have literal, in my opinion, I don't care anymore. 1.00

00:33:25.920 Fucking clowns, straight up, straight up clowns. 1.00

00:33:30.620 We've been calling them pod pastors and they got off the hook. 1.00

00:33:33.560 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:34.600 They got off the hook because of the orthodox stuff that we've been dealing with, which is a clear, like a clear party foul.

00:33:41.720 So should we, I mean, here, let's, let's catch Ed.

00:33:44.940 I don't know if you've been watching this phenomenon, but.

00:33:46.960 I'm sorry.

00:33:48.080 I'm sorry.

00:33:48.640 One thing to wrap.

00:33:49.820 Okay.

00:33:50.320 So what I want to really bring up is, is, is like in my Bible study, the purpose of it is to know God's plans, know Jehovah's plan.

00:33:57.340 And so when anyone comes to me, that's why I brought up my friend saying, well, God wants this or the other.

00:34:02.160 Let's look at the very beginning.

00:34:03.340 what is God's will. It hasn't changed. His will at the beginning of the Bible and the end are the

00:34:08.440 same thing. He wants to dwell with us and have a personal relationship, a fellowship with us.

00:34:13.140 He created Adam and Eve to rule the earth by day and in the evening, let's walk and talk.

00:34:17.500 He wanted to have a direct relationship, direct contact with him. Now they screwed that up,

00:34:23.840 obviously, and they can no longer have that direct contact. What did Jesus come back to do?

00:34:29.080 Jesus came back to undo what Adam did so that we could have that renewed, so that we could 0.77

00:34:34.740 have what Jehovah wants. 0.67

00:34:35.700 And at the end, in the end, in Revelation, the last chapter, what does it say?

00:34:39.500 God comes down.

00:34:40.800 God isn't in heaven when we're in the new Jerusalem.

00:34:43.400 He said the dwelling place of God is with man.

00:34:47.020 God is going to get back what he had before, but he can walk with us in the cool of the

00:34:50.440 day as he did with Adam and Eve before they sinned. 0.74

00:34:53.000 So if that is Jehovah's will and Jesus came to make that will happen, then wouldn't it 0.89

00:34:58.040 be completely contradictory to say, okay, now I want you to go through Mary or through these 0.78

00:35:03.180 saints or through these angels to get to me. That is the opposite of what God wants. So if you know

00:35:07.680 what God's will is, then you will know what is not his will. And you know, all these falsehoods.

00:35:12.640 So the biggest defense against false doctrine is to know the truth about who God is. So the more

00:35:18.960 you know, God, the more you will not be fooled by anyone who says this is God's doctrine. And like,

00:35:24.280 No, this isn't God's. God wants me to talk to him. In fact, the next lesson I'm putting out

00:35:30.400 next Wednesday because our new stuff drops every Wednesday on the spiritual warfare class is my

00:35:34.940 first of two parts on how to step into the counsel of God, which we have the right to do through

00:35:40.540 Jesus and be a part of his holy divine counsel. If you read any of Michael Heiser's work, you know

00:35:46.360 what the divine counsel is. Adam and Eve were on the divine counsel. They lost it. We as Christians

00:35:51.060 We can go, as you mentioned before, Top, that the verse where we can enter boldly into the throne room of God.

00:36:00.040 We have access directly to him, and that's what he wants from us.

00:36:03.640 And I'm going to teach that in the next spiritual warfare class because there are two things. 1.00

00:36:08.320 Number one, Christians don't understand. 0.99

00:36:10.100 Most Christians don't understand that God even has a divine counsel. 0.67

00:36:13.100 And number two, they don't understand that we can be a part of it.

00:36:16.160 And third, they don't understand how to enter into it.

00:36:19.500 And I'm going to teach that.

00:36:20.640 But my point is, you want to know God.

00:36:23.760 And the more you know someone, the less, you know, you guys know each other really well, obviously.

00:36:28.320 If someone comes to you and says, hey, Raven, Top said this.

00:36:30.680 You're like, no, no, he wouldn't.

00:36:32.000 He would never say that.

00:36:32.900 Or he would never do that because you know him.

00:36:35.100 So no one can fool you that way.

00:36:36.200 So that's the point is to know God that well.

00:36:38.040 All right.

00:36:38.340 Yeah.

00:36:38.880 That's what, well, I mean, that's what a lot of people, you know, we don't have to go down this path.

00:36:42.840 But this is exactly what my concern is with the whole Christian nationalism, which I do think ties into the orthodoxy. 0.80

00:36:48.100 I think if anybody's likely to engage in something that looks like Christian nationalism, it may be a lot of these ortho bros.

00:36:56.520 But, you know, are you going towards Christianity or Christian nationalism because you want to know God?

00:37:04.720 You want to know God's plan for you. You want to draw closer to God.

00:37:08.140 Or is it because you can't stand the left and you can't stand the status quo that's been, you know, the status quo in this country for the last, you know, better part of 20 years?

00:37:18.480 Right.

00:37:19.060 I think one is definitely the wrong reason to start.

00:37:23.280 But I mean, I think God also uses all things and what might start off as as sort of a rebellion against that status quo could turn into a genuine love for the Lord.

00:37:32.660 He can he can steer you if you if you are seeking him, he will get you towards him.

00:37:37.620 Even if you're even if you're going down the wrong path, he can say, OK, I know your heart.

00:37:41.540 You want to you want to find me.

00:37:43.360 You want to have a relationship with me.

00:37:44.580 But you're going down this path.

00:37:45.500 I can ship you a little bit.

00:37:47.020 Yeah.

00:37:47.560 To the right.

00:37:47.900 He can do that.

00:37:48.960 Yeah, I think that's absolutely true. 0.55

00:37:50.560 It's like it's it's such a weird dynamic because from this whole idea of disgust with not just the Catholic side of things and Orthodox side of things, but then looking at the Protestant side of things in just the last week. 0.75

00:38:06.200 it had me for like maybe a couple of minutes or an hour I was just going like oh like god

00:38:12.960 how how can you step in a big conversation and it like lit up like a fire but listen I'm not

00:38:19.960 I'm not one to not step into a big conversation but like the actual meaning of the conversation 0.99

00:38:24.780 on all sides I'm like god how could anything how could something about you be so gay like on all 0.99

00:38:30.120 sides of it and then I go like because you know we haven't we haven't been ones to not criticize 1.00

00:38:35.880 we go to a church and we will criticize it there like we'll be like hey this is goofy stuff

00:38:39.960 sometimes i'm like hey you're doing some weird things hey turn to your neighbor and say no there

00:38:44.680 was a time when i thought the orthodox church i the general consensus was like very based very

00:38:49.240 base yeah but what what i've come to my whole mindset now after all that it's it's just crazy

00:38:56.120 i decided i called the uh the pastor aaron and i was like hey man i'll play guitar in your church

00:39:01.000 now i'm done i'm like because i've decided like okay i i don't belong to a church but

00:39:06.400 are we doing something for god and is god is god in the orthodox church is he in the catholic

00:39:11.440 church yeah yeah he's there he's in these other weird protestant denominations as well there's a

00:39:16.480 lot of weird stuff going on all around you're gonna go shred for the lord whatever whatever

00:39:20.920 like whatever i can do whatever i can do like this is what i'm i'm letting the opinions of

00:39:25.700 some of these other people stop me from serving in a way that i can because you've made a criticism

00:39:31.840 because this church is fallen so is yours every it seems like every single one that i every time

00:39:35.780 i look around it's like yeah this is awful there's it's awful in so many ways is man trying to do

00:39:42.080 this thing you know inspired by the the the divine nature of god yeah trying to do something that is

00:39:48.080 worthy of god but inherently is made by man and it's crazy because my argument with my dad is for

00:39:53.980 the last 20 years has always been yeah but look at this church look at the people in it look at

00:39:58.820 how it goes look at the it's a business and he just goes hey man just do it to god and i was

00:40:02.820 like i don't this doesn't make any sense to me what you're saying just do it for god like you

00:40:07.740 know just focus on god and i was like i can't there's so much but today this week has put so

00:40:12.500 much in clarity for me and it's it's almost such a it's the craziest contradiction because i should

00:40:17.420 be out of it but i'm like no i'm gonna go more in i'm gonna go and i'm gonna church harder like

00:40:22.200 that yeah the church is church is not a building or an organization yeah church the church the

00:40:29.980 word church is from the greek word ecclesia which means the called out ones you are part of the body

00:40:34.500 of christ because you believe in him it does not matter what so when you hear the catholics or the

00:40:39.760 orthodox who both say this that we're the one true church we're the original church like no you aren't

00:40:44.620 because you don't even have the right definition of church a church is not an organization it is

00:40:50.120 a group of people. We are all the church. So our goal should not be to say, my doctrine is better

00:40:57.440 than yours, or you can only get to God through me. Really? Because Jesus said, I can only get

00:41:01.720 to God through him. So which one of you is right? Jesus never said, you have to go through this

00:41:06.960 church and do these rituals and take the Eucharist so many times because the Orthodox believe in the

00:41:10.560 Eucharist. You don't have to do all these things. That was the opposite. The Pharisees had everyone

00:41:16.380 under the law for their salvation the law was supposed to lead you to jesus it wasn't supposed

00:41:21.020 to be a ritual to get you to god now they've just replaced the old law which jesus over which jesus

00:41:27.740 fulfilled and did away with us okay now you don't have to do any of that now you just come through 0.96

00:41:31.340 me and you they say okay but the catholics and orthodox say hey jesus thanks for freeing us from

00:41:36.140 the law now we're gonna we're never gonna have a new law a bunch of new laws that that you're

00:41:40.540 gonna put in place that you never even told us to do so we're gonna replace one group of works

00:41:45.020 with another group of works.

00:41:46.820 So thanks for the freedom, but no thanks.

00:41:48.340 We prefer to just keep doing a bunch of stuff

00:41:51.540 that we make up.

00:41:52.500 And that's what all these things,

00:41:53.700 all these rituals are made up.

00:41:55.180 They're not from the Bible.

00:41:56.620 If they're not from God, then they're from man.

00:41:58.860 There's only two sources of,

00:42:00.260 I mean, or from demonic entities.

00:42:02.060 There's only three sources of intelligence, 0.96

00:42:03.840 God, man, and the fallen Elohim. 0.95

00:42:07.480 The good angels are not going to contradict God. 0.97

00:42:09.340 So the bad angels are.

00:42:10.580 So if it's not from God,

00:42:11.980 then it's from someone who's imperfect.

00:42:13.540 And why are you following that?

00:42:14.620 Why are you doing these things?

00:42:16.080 Why are you doing these rituals?

00:42:16.880 Why are you praying to saints?

00:42:18.000 Why are you lighting candles and rubbing beads?

00:42:21.060 And last thing I'll say, I know you want to talk about the disclosure stuff, is that these prayers that they give you to say, how insulting is that to God?

00:42:31.260 God is your father.

00:42:32.380 I think about my kids.

00:42:33.340 If my kids want something from me, like my kid just had his birthday last month.

00:42:37.160 My kid's birthday is in April.

00:42:38.340 Happy birthday.

00:42:39.580 Yeah.

00:42:39.920 Happy birthday, Maxwell.

00:42:40.940 and um when he came to i'm doxing myself good lord well whatever um when he when i asked him

00:42:48.540 what do you want for your birthday we want this you want we want some video game stuff

00:42:52.380 how would i feel if he said well then i can't tell you directly but i'm going to go talk to

00:42:57.100 my friend over here i'll have him tell you what i want right i don't want to hear from you i want

00:43:01.420 to hear from you i want a relationship with you so when you have these prayers that are pre-written

00:43:06.160 that Catholics say, that Orthodox people say,

00:43:09.020 how assaulting is that to God? 0.79

00:43:10.980 God does not want to have a relationship

00:43:12.740 with someone else wrote.

00:43:14.880 Like, it was just Mother's Day.

00:43:16.280 I gave my mother a greeting card.

00:43:17.820 My mother loves greeting cards. 1.00

00:43:18.900 I think they're the dumbest thing in the world 0.99

00:43:20.180 because there's something that someone else wrote 0.99

00:43:21.680 who doesn't know you, doesn't know anyone

00:43:23.800 associated with you, and you give it,

00:43:26.220 but my mom loved them, so I give them to her.

00:43:27.940 And we take her out to brunch.

00:43:29.340 She has her greeting card.

00:43:30.400 She starts crying, oh, this is so beautiful.

00:43:32.160 I'm like, okay, I'm glad you like it, mom,

00:43:33.580 but these aren't my words.

00:43:35.140 Right.

00:43:36.160 wouldn't wouldn't isn't it better if i say hey mom i love you you're great you know i appreciate

00:43:39.380 everything you've done for me as opposed to all this stuff but that's how i see these prayers

00:43:42.820 they're like a greeting card to god god wants to know you uniquely and and how that dovetails

00:43:47.940 into spiritual warfare and and coming before god into his counsel as you come before god in your

00:43:53.020 uniqueness i'm gonna we're gonna teach people how to do that in the course but here's like a

00:43:56.720 another freebie for you you come before god it says enter into his gates with thanksgiving and

00:44:01.800 into his course with praise. What is that praise? It's going to be unique to you. Not everyone

00:44:07.400 praises God the same way. You know, I think we talked about this before. When I was growing up

00:44:11.120 in church, my least favorite part was the worship music. It did nothing for me. And I used to think

00:44:15.680 I was weird because everyone else is praising God. You know, I have their hands up and getting all

00:44:20.360 histrionics and everything like that. And I was just there stone-faced. I want to get to the

00:44:24.540 teaching. I want to learn about God. And I used to think that there's something wrong with me

00:44:28.480 because I don't like praising God,

00:44:29.940 but I praise God in a unique way.

00:44:32.220 I praise God when I'm out in like,

00:44:35.260 when I'm on a hiking trail,

00:44:36.240 I'm seeing the redwoods around here

00:44:37.520 and I'm seeing streams

00:44:38.760 or I'm looking at the sky

00:44:39.820 and I'm seeing the stars.

00:44:40.840 I see the grandeur of God.

00:44:42.700 That's when I'm giving him reverence.

00:44:45.260 And that's the praise he wants from me.

00:44:46.960 He doesn't want me to be in church

00:44:47.980 pretending I like worship music.

00:44:49.400 He's like, if you don't like worship music, fine.

00:44:51.480 You praise me when you're out in nature,

00:44:54.020 when you're, that's what he wants from me.

00:44:55.880 He doesn't want me to fake it someplace else.

00:44:57.340 My point is bringing this back to you. When you get into God's presence, you get into his presence by in your uniqueness and the unique way that you praise him.

00:45:06.060 That's what he wants. He wants that from you. He doesn't want someone else's words.

00:45:09.660 He wants your stories, your prayers, your life.

00:45:13.480 And if you learn who you are uniquely, which we're teaching, then you're going to know how to enter into God's presence as the person that he wants to have a relationship with.

00:45:23.040 That's why it's rough, you know, and we'll get off it after this.

00:45:26.060 But when the Orthodox Church says you're not Christian, if you're not Orthodox, it's like

00:45:29.000 it's very much like the public school system trying to do a one size fits all for every

00:45:33.740 kid, like every kid learns this way.

00:45:35.840 So you're all going to sit down, you're all going to learn this way.

00:45:37.600 And it's like, no, we've all been made unique by God.

00:45:41.800 And, you know, I think we all have something different to offer.

00:45:45.280 But like you said, and we all worship in a different way.

00:45:48.700 Yeah, like when I see it, I go cripplingly boring.

00:45:51.140 like i know i know myself enough to go i just simply couldn't i saw somebody say simply couldn't

00:45:57.380 you got to go there and it's like two plus hours of of standing for you know whatever like like

00:46:03.120 the church that we go to is like stand up sit down stand up sit down this is like two straight

00:46:06.380 hours of standing i know that's probably not uniform across every but i know if you did that

00:46:09.820 to me i'd be like oh i'm simply never coming i'm gonna stand up and walk i'm gonna walk out of

00:46:14.460 here that's crazy i gotta stand for two hours every time i come here so everybody worships in

00:46:18.340 different way and and like yeah i mean you know it's a it is a one-size-fits-all remedy that a

00:46:23.700 church thinks is a successful implementation onto their flock but it's very much like the public

00:46:28.660 school system it's the same uh fallacy so so um you know on the topic of of this these these

00:46:35.140 pastors i'm sure you've heard of it but i'll give a brief overview and i'd like to talk about a

00:46:39.060 little bit it was this idea that um so attorney tony merkel actually uh organized this he had some

00:46:45.140 friends of his who used to be in what sounds like military positions,

00:46:49.480 maybe positions within government, no longer the case.

00:46:53.080 But after they left, they pursued this information.

00:46:58.180 They were Christian and they believed that disclosure was imminent.

00:47:02.940 And for however long they've been independent researchers,

00:47:05.940 they've come to some fantastic conclusions.

00:47:08.340 Much of the conclusions that we talk with you about, Ed.

00:47:11.740 and um so tony has a relationship with them and he asked them one day after a preliminary meeting

00:47:18.380 if they would be interested in having a secondary follow-up meeting with some of tony's friends

00:47:22.200 tony's friends being uh some pastors and they get together they have this conversation and

00:47:28.280 it is pretty much what we talk about on this show fallen angels fallen angel technology

00:47:34.100 demonic entities hold on a second go ahead gonna have to address this guy idaho hermit because 0.98

00:47:39.720 he's been talking a little bit of shit in there uh just saying yeah yeah you know the orthodox 0.99

00:47:44.680 church will be fine too boring we need tongues and because you know like there was a clown in 0.99

00:47:49.100 the church yeah literally which i make fun of say yeah like i said i don't really like that 0.98

00:47:53.960 idaho if you can't call out your own church you can't you're not allowed to you're in a cult dog 0.89

00:47:58.560 yeah and also your cult is saying that they hold the keys to salvation the church that i go to

00:48:03.000 kiss the bones yeah they kiss the bones i'm just saying listen the protestant churches that have

00:48:07.100 the smoke machines that you've got big problems with don't violate any of the 10 commandments

00:48:11.080 and also where you go to and what you yeah we we're actually allowed to say yeah smoke machines 0.91

00:48:16.620 are kind of gay where you go is literally a cult you're not allowed to because you'll be disbarred 0.95

00:48:21.920 from your church if you do step out of line and if you're disbarred you lose your salvation 0.97

00:48:25.700 do you see the problem here i have all this freedom to look at that on stage and go all 0.96

00:48:30.340 right what you just did is gay but they like glom together the orthodox people glom together they go 0.98

00:48:34.780 Well, actually, it's totally biblical to kiss the bones. 1.00

00:48:38.000 $700 is not too much because it goes to the kids that the priests fuck later. 1.00

00:48:42.200 Stop it. 0.99

00:48:43.140 You're going to stop it now.

00:48:44.400 Yeah.

00:48:44.980 So, sorry, Ed.

00:48:46.900 Sorry.

00:48:47.360 It's okay.

00:48:47.880 Sometimes you got to spank the chat.

00:48:50.020 That's all.

00:48:50.660 That's good.

00:48:51.320 So, Tony gets these guys together.

00:48:53.900 And like I said, the information is what we talked about.

00:48:56.900 Disclosure is coming soon.

00:48:57.920 There's fallen angel technology.

00:48:59.200 Fallen angels are involved.

00:49:00.340 It's a big deception.

00:49:01.300 There's demonic forces, et cetera.

00:49:03.020 and they even go as far as saying like and that is the weeds that's the weeds the main focus is

00:49:10.220 jesus christ you're not going to get through this if your focus isn't on jesus christ yeah okay cool

00:49:16.060 some months go by this happens back in like february or something like that months go by

00:49:20.860 and all of a sudden a bunch of these pastors come out tony doesn't but these other pastors come out

00:49:26.980 and they start making the rounds and doing media and doing press and they're saying government

00:49:32.480 officials debrief them prepare your flocks you know all this stuff about reptilians all these

00:49:39.100 different things much of that turns out to not have been the case at all uh tony said unless

00:49:45.460 there was a different meeting reptilians were never talked about um and u.s government officials

00:49:50.960 were not involved there's even whisperings of extra coveted secret information that can't be

00:49:56.860 revealed because there's an ongoing criminal case with the u.s government apparently that never

00:50:00.820 happened either but this thing has been sensationalized and then what happens is in the

00:50:05.760 same week like three days later the trump administration administration starts disclosure

00:50:12.300 and so we've got this first wave of files it's very reminiscent to the epstein file release

00:50:16.900 and people are going through it so far there's a lot of actual bullshit um we found cia documents

00:50:23.340 that are just ai produced documents we found images that are sensationalized to be one thing

00:50:28.500 turns out it could be a parachute or a lens flare or anything it's kind of shaped up to be

00:50:33.860 a nothing burger and now there's kind of two camps one is grabbing this story and running with it

00:50:41.020 well look these pastors have been debriefed by the u.s government and these things are demons

00:50:47.560 which is kind of the blanket statement and we've been known to tote that around in a comical sense

00:50:51.840 if you ask us we've got a lot more nuanced thoughts about the nature of you know what the alien

00:50:56.720 deception actually is it's it's a multi-faceted complex machine um but they're just blanketly

00:51:02.500 saying demons and and it's a bit of a clown show it's laughable it's it's cringy some of the people

00:51:09.720 by the way who are involved do have really strange backgrounds you know one of them is accused of 0.96

00:51:15.520 of sexually assaulting 12 women who he then told if they say anything he's going to kill himself

00:51:21.960 uh another guy claims to be a prophet that god speaks to him i mean who knows i don't know if

00:51:28.040 we're still in in the era of prophets i don't really i'm not smart enough to know that i just

00:51:32.780 know as soon as i hear that i go all right dude i don't know what we're talking about here um 0.99

00:51:37.460 and then the other side of it is holy shit look at these clowns they think it's demons they they've 0.97

00:51:47.020 basically given a black eye to research like yours or or like anybody who's been actually uh 0.99

00:51:55.120 you know fascinated by this topic trying to understand it coming to conclusions that this

00:52:00.120 can be fully understood through a biblical lens and so um have you seen all of this happening

00:52:06.020 yeah i've seen um i started seeing it the first time i saw it was when you guys did a show like

00:52:10.540 pretty soon after it started to go public with i forget the the name of the preacher he said

00:52:14.580 You said he looked like Guy Fieri.

00:52:16.120 I forget his name, but I know of him.

00:52:18.660 That was

00:52:19.200 Tommy Ice.

00:52:22.880 Pete or something?

00:52:24.140 I could be wrong.

00:52:25.480 Perry Stone.

00:52:27.600 That's the guy who just got exposed, by the way,

00:52:30.600 for 12 sexual assault cases.

00:52:33.200 Leave that out.

00:52:34.640 That's what's happening.

00:52:35.800 I first saw it on one of your episodes,

00:52:38.520 and then you mentioned Tony,

00:52:41.140 so I'll go to his channel to see what he's talking about.

00:52:43.760 it uh what he's saying and so here's where i am with it so i always take like take a step back

00:52:51.040 and look at the big picture and say okay what what's happening here what is what's the goal

00:52:55.760 that's trying to that's being accomplished or someone wants to accomplish whenever anything

00:53:00.000 becomes part of the zeitgeist very rarely is it natural i don't think i don't know if anything

00:53:05.520 even goes really viral anymore on its own i think a lot of things are controlled so did i look at

00:53:10.640 how is this going to benefit the people who are at the top? And at the very top is not any human

00:53:15.840 organization. It's the fallen angels, fallen Elohim, and what they want. Because I remember

00:53:20.760 last year, almost a year ago, we were talking about, yeah, it was probably over the summer

00:53:25.500 last year. It was like right when I was about to go to tape an episode with Merkel. We were talking

00:53:30.660 about Disclosure and Three-Eye Atlas and all that stuff. You actually asked us, Ed, you said,

00:53:36.160 what makes you think that was it that was he said because you you know you're looking at it's like

00:53:41.220 why do you think disclosure is going to happen we go actually here's why and then here we are and

00:53:46.880 and we're going down that path yeah and what and i think my response was you know i'm not i i think

00:53:52.100 eventually that it's going to happen but i think it's i think it's going to happen at the very

00:53:56.000 beginning of the dark times i mean like post rapture or or simultaneous with that nice because

00:54:02.160 we were also talking about oh the rapture is going to happen like last september and i was

00:54:05.400 whatever i and i and i said like if the rapture happens in september then three i out this is

00:54:11.860 going to be a big deal in november if it doesn't happen then it's going to be nothing and that's

00:54:15.480 pretty much not that i'm prophetic i think i'm just going with what i believe in the bible so

00:54:20.060 in the big picture there is going to have to be disclosure because i believe again this is this

00:54:25.200 is not what thus saith the lord is what thus saith ed mabry's theory which is that at when we get to

00:54:31.160 the sixth seal, which in Revelation chapter six, when the stars of heaven, which is an idiom for

00:54:38.660 the fallen angels, they're going to be cast down to earth and they are going to be forced here.

00:54:43.400 And they're going to be forced here to materialize for lack of a better term. And I think that the

00:54:48.540 alien thing is going to be their cover story. I think it's a great, maybe it's a different cover

00:54:52.240 story, but I think they're going to say that we are your space brothers. We are ascended masters.

00:54:57.020 we are you know we are your creators or whatever so i believe that that disclosure is going to be

00:55:01.440 a part of that and but what the last thing they want is for people to say oh no no you're fallen

00:55:06.820 angels you're you're demonic entities so what do you want to do discredit anyone who has that idea

00:55:12.880 it's like when i remember you know during covid when people were talking about um what was it

00:55:17.580 ivermectin um as a possible treatment for it and what it what came out after that oh that's just

00:55:22.600 that's horse medicine that's horse dewormer or whatever and so it became a big joke i remember

00:55:29.080 this this uh girl i used to date who i'm still on facebook with for stupid reasons no nothing like

00:55:34.600 that she's she missed about tough for you but we still talk we're still friends and she was doing

00:55:39.400 the whole as a horse dewormer thing i'm like well just because a horse can pick it doesn't mean i

00:55:43.320 mean if i feed my dog filet mignon doesn't mean filet mignon is dog food so if it maybe it works

00:55:49.080 on multiple species i mean works on awesome works on them so don't dismiss it because of that but

00:55:53.800 what they did in what went viral was these crazy conspiracy theorists are telling you to take horse

00:55:59.160 pills to fight covet so and if that was a legitimate treatment which i think you know i

00:56:04.840 think is a really good anti-parasitic uh ivermectin but my point is that they've they've labeled

00:56:10.600 something that could be helpful and right as you know a clownish so you're not going to take it

00:56:15.640 seriously so if now when when disclosure happens and i i like you believe that there are demonic

00:56:22.600 aspects to it and from what i was hearing about the these meetings i think they were saying that

00:56:27.480 yes some of it is demonic and some of it is just like demonic technology that human beings are

00:56:32.000 flying some of these things or are there they have some of it is like actual terrestrial technology

00:56:37.440 other some of it is truly a fallen angel tech or demonic or that sort of thing which i think i have

00:56:43.520 problem with that i think that's that's feasible but if they if they're able to make it clownish 0.88

00:56:51.280 then people are gonna say oh that's just these crazy christians again i don't know if you guys

00:56:54.720 remember this this was there was like a rash of movies that came out like between it was before

00:57:00.080 covet maybe like you know the the mid-2010s that were all like dissing the rapture oh really i

00:57:07.360 know i wasn't aware of that there were a few i don't remember the names of them now because

00:57:10.480 so yeah it was like you know over 10 years ago but they were like a rash there was called one

00:57:14.680 this is the end it was one of them there was another one with the guy from the office like

00:57:18.320 the black guy who's actually really funny guy he has kind of has a bit of an afro kind of thing um

00:57:23.320 yeah yeah he did one that was also disparaging the rapture and it came out like in the same

00:57:28.560 year i'm like this is weird but i wonder if they're again they were they were comedies that

00:57:34.020 were making fun of people who believed in the rapture, just climbing it. So bigger picture

00:57:41.000 of all of this is these entities don't know God's timetable. I believe we're near. I think

00:57:50.120 they know that we're near. They know that things are in place and they need to have their cover

00:57:53.760 story. So I think they're ready for it. Because if you think about it, you would ask the question

00:58:00.660 like what what is what is satan waiting for what are all these fallen entities waiting for i mean

00:58:05.240 they have they have control of our economics throughout through the you know the families

00:58:09.180 who control over our money the big bankers they have control of all of our military they have

00:58:12.800 control of our entertainment system they why don't they just do the thing why don't they bring in an

00:58:17.980 antichrist and just subject everyone to his new religion why because they can't do it until god

00:58:23.400 takes his spirit you know until the restrainer is lifted so i think they're ready for disclosure

00:58:29.720 People have this idea that Satan is like the emperor in Star Wars.

00:58:33.660 He's just sitting on his throne saying, good, good, my plan is slowly coming together.

00:58:38.680 He's waiting.

00:58:39.340 He's not waiting for anything.

00:58:40.460 He would have done it 100 years ago, 1,000 years ago if he could have.

00:58:44.920 They're not waiting.

00:58:45.820 They want to do their thing.

00:58:47.340 They want to implement their plan, but the Holy Spirit is restraining them.

00:58:50.840 But they know that that restraining power is waning.

00:58:54.980 And I believe that they would have wanted to do disclosure last year.

00:58:58.760 They would have wanted 3i Atlas to be the instrument through which they brought in their UFO, whatever, Project Blue Bay.

00:59:06.940 But I believe what's happening is that God's saying, not yet.

00:59:10.940 I'm still restraining.

00:59:12.560 But they want to do it.

00:59:13.500 And so they have to have these things on deck, ready to go.

00:59:17.180 That's my personal belief there.

00:59:19.580 It's interesting because, go ahead.

00:59:21.640 No, I'm saying I'd agree with that.

00:59:23.060 it's just you know the our my main problem with whatever happened with the pastors there is like 0.98

00:59:26.940 it's just uh you know it's goofy shit it's it's a media day for you guys and and and in that media 0.98

00:59:33.800 day too yeah you took advantage of somebody that put you on to something that to be honest you 0.99

00:59:40.220 probably shouldn't even been on because you guys just you guys run churches and you're not really

00:59:46.340 interested in this stuff but you see that there's money in it so that's what you're doing that and

00:59:50.400 you know they want the clicks and views too and it's unfortunate a lot of these people who

00:59:55.060 i mean i try to get people the benefit of the doubt when i see someone on youtube or whatever

01:00:00.300 other social media speaking about christ and i want to believe that you're sincere but i think

01:00:05.920 like like you were saying before top you just get disappointed in these people you're like you know

01:00:09.080 what you're not you're just another scam artist some of these people and i don't name names i

01:00:13.340 don't really care like what's his name by johnny z or something or what's oh joseph z that's the guy 0.60

01:00:18.740 I think that is supposed to be a prophet or he's one of the guys that was there.

01:00:22.200 Yeah, he's one of the well, he wasn't there.

01:00:23.540 He wasn't there.

01:00:23.980 He just is a guy that started collecting these guys and then reporting on it.

01:00:27.940 Like, you know, with all this gusto and he's one of them.

01:00:31.980 I started listening to him for a little while to see what he was like.

01:00:34.500 And then I just he was doing something, saying some things

01:00:36.580 that I thought were like really wrong and not biblical.

01:00:40.340 And so I had to get away from him. 0.97

01:00:41.880 And they're, you know, just like a quite a few of them.

01:00:44.140 And it's disappointing to hear.

01:00:46.980 I think it could.

01:00:48.740 be if I was going to be charitable with my analysis, let's say you are just running a 0.99

01:00:54.960 church and you have this, albeit stupid idea that these more fringe supernatural elements 0.99

01:01:02.160 are to be discarded or not to be paid attention to. 0.98

01:01:05.320 And then all of a sudden you get sat down in a meeting with some people who seem very

01:01:09.260 serious and seem like they know what they're talking about and have a lot of answers to

01:01:12.760 your questions.

01:01:13.880 And they're rooted in Christ because that's their main message is, you know, I don't think

01:01:18.120 that any of these people never believed in the supernatural aspects of the bible i think that

01:01:22.880 they did i think that they preached on up until recently other things because they realized that

01:01:28.000 money is not there like you're not going to get a big congregation congregation retention is not

01:01:31.980 in this subject but in this time period like what like how ed asked us a couple months ago

01:01:37.240 why do you think now i was like well you know we've kind of done the math here

01:01:40.820 and it looks like attention and that was last year or something like that yeah uh these people

01:01:45.420 have caught on a little bit later but they've caught on to a pattern well that's what it is

01:01:49.700 it's like they got um very excited you know you sat down and all of a sudden they told you this

01:01:55.300 and you go oh my god and and for us if you told us this we'd go yeah but now i can have a conference

01:02:01.580 now i can have the big disclosure conference and you can come all to branson missouri and i'm gonna

01:02:05.800 rent out this this big plaza and by all means a ticket and now you can yeah there you go do it 0.64

01:02:10.500 bring the bring your smoke machine but like hell yeah you're gonna drag you're gonna drag the guy

01:02:15.280 that that set you up with this well that's they didn't think they were dragging them but that's 1.00

01:02:19.500 what they did because they didn't stop and consider any of that shit they used them as a useful idiot 0.99

01:02:23.560 which maybe you did deserve if you let them use you like that and that's what happened yeah it's 0.99

01:02:28.700 it's sad but i i think it'll be fine it gets a little bit weirder because i i think i agree with

01:02:33.620 ed in the sense of the spiritual puppeteering that's happened because the timing is very

01:02:39.000 odd and i definitely don't think that the pastors or that even the guys that were in the airbnb

01:02:44.720 be meeting disseminating the information had the ability to get donald trump's administration

01:02:50.280 to pull the trigger on ufo disclosure the meeting happened february 20th well what i mean specifically

01:02:56.220 is like all of a sudden they started talking about it and this big media tour happened and then

01:03:01.100 three days later you know disclosure starts happening or disclosure in air quotes because

01:03:05.740 so far it's yielded not really anything tremendous it it is a fascinating look at how things are

01:03:10.480 moving on the world stage but otherwise it's been a bit of a nothing burger but what else

01:03:14.340 has happened is you have um this is something we were talking about on maybe yesterday's episode

01:03:19.340 anna paulina luna it's a congresswoman i think out of florida who i've been pretty harsh on um

01:03:26.020 because she just it's just one of those things where i i call it discernment it's just something 1.00

01:03:31.640 feels really off with her used to be a stripper now she's threatening publicly the cia to return

01:03:38.720 the documents that were stolen off tulsi gabbard's desk regarding jfk's assassination mk ultra and

01:03:47.020 also she's spearheading ufo disclosure so a stripper from florida is threatening the dia

01:03:55.240 government what are we talking about here these people peeled the cap back of jfk next to his 0.77

01:04:01.780 wife if you believe that that's what happened but anna paulina luna who's you know 97 pounds

01:04:07.980 is threatening them on national television so there's this weird hero song and dance that we're

01:04:13.060 getting i call it a little divine feminine her last name is luna the the moon is a symbol of

01:04:17.620 the divine is that her real name or is that a stripper no no it's not it's not her real name

01:04:22.160 actually so you know you don't want to get into anti-semitic lore that's right but oh okay

01:04:26.060 jewish or something i was just going to talk about how so a lot of these pastors who i've

01:04:29.880 been disappointed with i just found out they were taking like massive money from israel i don't want

01:04:33.360 to go down that rabbit hole but some of these pastors who i've been you know listening to

01:04:37.320 okay he's pretty decent all of a sudden they're like you know super hyper zionist i'm like what's

01:04:41.880 happening then then it turns out they're they're getting money from it's like dude i so so you're 0.80

01:04:47.440 selling your your your pulpit to the highest bidder that's i can't follow you anymore not

01:04:53.420 because i know you're for sale there's an eerie overlay and this is what i'm saying like yeah 0.86

01:04:59.400 shots i mean shots fired on all ends here i'm shooting at every church the orthodox church is

01:05:03.780 pretty good on what israel is they kind of see it and they go yeah that's not not great but these 0.96

01:05:09.260 guys the same people that we're talking about they're all they're all of the zionist flavor

01:05:14.340 and uh you know previously i people didn't forget there was a thousand prominent pastors

01:05:20.120 in israel getting directions from the government of israel on how to preach to their congregation

01:05:25.100 and now they're telling us that well they wanted it to seem that pseudo government actors were

01:05:31.060 telling them how to preach to their congregation about aliens and i'm like this rhymes and i don't

01:05:35.400 like it i like i'm out i don't want to i don't want to be next to that i think there's some

01:05:39.440 connective tissue there um definitely it's um it's it's uncanny it's a it's a sort of a political

01:05:48.900 conspiratorial aligning of the stars you know um in in the way that all these things are coming out

01:05:54.620 and it's honestly been giving me a lot of pause anna paulina luna or anna paulina gamberski

01:06:00.120 uh she's also on rogan's podcast and she's talking about the nephilim she's talking about

01:06:06.940 the fallen she's talking about the book of enoch yeah but she's also spreading a lot of doubt about

01:06:11.760 um sort of the the validity of the king james version of the bible and she's i believe she's

01:06:21.000 on rogan saying that you know king james changed things in the bible to appease his wife which is

01:06:27.260 factually incorrect right now so completely king james he was he was the executive producer he had

01:06:34.140 nothing to do with the actual he wasn't even educated enough to anyway yeah you know that's

01:06:39.560 wrong oh by the way did you guys think because when i first heard this you know christian folk

01:06:43.840 coming out and giving pastors this information first thing that popped in my mind was oh there's

01:06:47.900 like the collins elite did that ever cross your mind no it actually did um shout out to gans from

01:06:53.780 canary cry radio because he just posted a really simple question where he goes this sounds like

01:06:57.860 the collins elite and i said well damn i guess it kind of does because not no it's certainly not

01:07:03.420 okay um the guys who disseminated the information they are not embedded in the government in any 0.82

01:07:08.540 meaningful way whatsoever they're independent researchers they're guys that may have been in

01:07:12.780 the army that have had like you know maybe even higher positions but they don't hold those

01:07:16.820 positions anymore and they're not it's been a long time is my understanding but but the aim is the

01:07:21.760 same though well that group of pastors has created the collins elite right that's almost what you

01:07:26.980 might imagine that when they were um filled with all that zeal about like look at this information

01:07:31.500 and look what we get to go like they were we're like the collins elite well the purpose of the

01:07:35.600 collins elite in the end of the day is is uh not to do anything political politically i think it's

01:07:41.700 more of like this social opinion movement and they're going to paint christians as standing

01:07:46.040 in the way of progress which is going to be a big problem which is exactly what they what the 0.98

01:07:50.160 pastors are lined up to do here anyway because they just look foolish and to the general public 0.97

01:07:54.420 you know when Daily Mail writes about it it's like these guys are standing in the way of progress 0.93

01:07:59.080 like Ellie Marzulli talks about that as well like you know that's that's going to be the excuse for

01:08:03.840 when it possibly a rapture excuse no we got rid of the people who were standing in the way they

01:08:08.900 were they were holding you back from your ascension to whatever age of Aquarius yeah that

01:08:13.700 That was actually my massive gripe. And I think almost my singular focus when it came to the Timothy Alvarino contention was this way that he wasn't pushing back against it.

01:08:27.520 And he was also agreeing with it because in that Age of Disclosure documentary that came out with Lou Elizondo, they basically said there's, you know, I'm paraphrasing.

01:08:35.680 They were much more charitable than this, but I was saying there's some backwards people with some religious ideologies that are standing in the way of progress because they want to label everything demons or the devil.

01:08:47.280 And I said, huh, that's fascinating. 0.93

01:08:49.220 That's a fascinating little thing to toss into that documentary.

01:08:51.800 And then, of course, listening to Albarino break down that documentary, he echoed the same sentiment.

01:08:56.880 And he said that their hearts were in the right place, but that they were doing the wrong thing and they were standing in the way of progress.

01:09:02.420 And I said, that's dangerous.

01:09:04.140 That's really dangerous.

01:09:05.100 So I brought that to his attention. And, you know, who knows how that really went? I don't even remember. But here we are again. And now it's like, and it just happened. It just happened. They just did a thing. I don't know who they are. It's not the Jews. It's not the deep state. It's not, you know, an army of guys dressed like Indiana Jones. Something just happened. You know, maybe it was moved by a spiritual.

01:09:28.400 Well, Owen Benjamin was on a Tucker Carlson show today and he was talking about the nature of Tucker was like, so when you got canceled, who canceled you?

01:09:39.560 And he was like, well, I went through, you know, and we had the privilege of of watching Owen spiral and go through this.

01:09:47.040 Who did it? Who was the who? He was like, was it the Democrats? Was it the Muslims? Was it the Jews?

01:09:54.960 was it and then he goes yeah i came down to like the he's like it's a spiritual disposition it's

01:10:00.300 like this glob this amorphous glob this idea that no matter like you can pick one person and crucify

01:10:06.680 him and it still goes you're never gonna get rid of it you're never gonna get rid of it's an idea

01:10:10.640 and nobody nobody seems to step forward and say it's my idea but everybody has the idea

01:10:16.160 you know so it's like it's a spiritual thing there is a disposition it's like we'd say demons

01:10:21.580 i'd say demons yeah i mean demons demonic you know it's it's mincing um it's semantics almost

01:10:28.340 right in other words i i kind of do agree with what these guys said in that meeting you get into

01:10:33.620 the weeds about what is it is it a meat suit is it a this and that it's like right focus on christ

01:10:38.320 because this thing is the enemy and and that's really and the enemy has a lot of faces and and

01:10:43.800 even historically speaking it does seem that it has the ability to shape shift even with that

01:10:47.360 with it and i don't mean like shape shift like reptilian style i mean through different seasons

01:10:52.100 um but throughout american history at you know if we just look at that um it has appeared

01:10:58.940 differently it was little green dudes at one point in silver suits those were the reports that were

01:11:05.280 coming out and then it morphs endlessly and so you have an array of you know all a bunch of

01:11:12.300 different creatures multitudes of creatures and um and so it's almost like yeah the form does not

01:11:19.100 matter it's this form versus function if the form is constantly in flux then you need to stop looking

01:11:24.940 at the form and start looking at the function and the function is it is deceptive it hates human

01:11:30.760 beings it seems it's an opposition to god um and it constantly spreads a gnostic gospel and so um

01:11:39.180 That's a pretty important thing to keep in focus.

01:11:42.400 Yeah, but what I always say when people talk about, you know, is there a life in the universe, biological life?

01:11:46.960 I say, okay, well, let's look at how these aliens behave.

01:11:49.180 Why would they fly hundreds of millions of light years to Earth just to tell us the same lies as a serpent in the Garden of Eden, that you can be God?

01:12:00.020 Yeah.

01:12:00.680 And that the Bible isn't real.

01:12:03.240 Like, really?

01:12:04.300 That's what you came here to tell us?

01:12:06.720 Thanks for that.

01:12:07.400 well you know i i don't know where things are are going um but it feels like the landscape

01:12:14.040 is rapidly evolving and even even anapoli this is something top and i were discussing

01:12:19.820 yesterday where we're kind of being uh ungrateful babies because anapolina luna comes out and like 0.95

01:12:27.040 i said threatens the cia says hey you know give up the the documents on on jfk and mk ultra 1.00

01:12:32.100 give us the documents give us the documents or else i'm gonna you know dance on you and so

01:12:37.600 you know for us i do believe that the worst lap dance ever i'll take you to the back room

01:12:45.040 i'm gonna one day the things i've said about anapolino luna will come back to

01:12:52.900 so we think that mk ultra has a lot to do with the alien abduction phenomenon in general because i

01:13:05.000 think that a lot of the tactics that they've become privy to in regards to sort of fracturing

01:13:10.920 the minds of human beings and uh causing disassociative states gaining access to

01:13:16.740 spiritual realms and and various forms of psychic or psionic abilities i think they came to

01:13:23.740 understand how to do that um first through channeling and through ritual you know i think

01:13:29.080 that these things were occult practices long before they were ever done by anybody in a lab

01:13:36.680 coat in an official capacity and um so i i think that a lot of what we anticipate or rather

01:13:43.540 interpret as abduction could well be a um a mask for the same phenomenon when you're they used to 0.78

01:13:53.120 take johns from whorehouses and they would dose them and they would you know put them on lsd and

01:13:58.000 they do all these experiments on them now i think that a lot of times they're showing you something

01:14:02.560 that you perceive as a gray or something like that could well be just because the testimony says so

01:14:09.680 when people get abducted there's often the presence of medical personnel scientific personnel

01:14:14.560 military personnel yeah among the array of of cowled uh insectoids and all these other things

01:14:21.400 so it seems to be that they're working in tandem and i think that whatever they're working on is

01:14:27.020 you know besides the hybridization program there's there's also the fruits of mk ultra

01:14:31.520 so now that she's saying this there's a long-winded way of getting to this um me and 0.99

01:14:37.360 top are kind of sitting here going i don't give a fuck well not that's that we don't give a fuck 0.99

01:14:40.860 it's like so everything we thought is true like that just feels like bullshit it just i i maybe 0.99

01:14:49.100 it's not bullshit um but you would think we'd be doing like a victory lap and instead i think i'm

01:14:55.400 just more confused maybe than i've ever been yeah i honestly when when my when when my fringe 0.55

01:15:01.920 biblical ideas start to become mainstream that scares me like okay what are you trying are you

01:15:05.660 trying to co-opt it or whatever. And I was asked by somebody about, you know, the, the, the greys

01:15:10.860 versus the reptilians versus the, the, the, um, the Pleiadians who are, who look like, you know,

01:15:17.100 really beautiful human beings. And so you have to keep something in mind is that we have this,

01:15:23.780 when we look at what angels look like, all we have are these, we have like, you know, the,

01:15:27.260 the paintings from the medieval times or whatever with, you know, they're wearing robes with big,

01:15:31.780 big bird wings no what we do know from the actual bible is that there are angels that

01:15:37.480 elohim that look like reptiles they're called the seraphim right they're dragons basically

01:15:42.900 they're flying fiery serpents and you also have the cherubim one has a face like a man one 0.96

01:15:47.660 the other one has a face like a a cow one looks like an eagle one looks like a um uh yeah well

01:15:54.260 Which one? Yeah, yeah. Man, lion, eagle, and ox and cow. Yeah, an ox. So they look different.

01:16:03.160 So maybe the one, maybe the Pleiadians are the, so what I'm saying is you could technically put

01:16:08.340 angels into like these racial categories as a word, they're different races. And so the Seraphim

01:16:12.920 are reptilian. You have, you know, the ones, there are several in the Bible that look like

01:16:17.920 ox, the bulls of Bashan. So what if you're just saying these different races of angels,

01:16:23.640 these reptilians are seraphim what if the planadians are the ones that look like humans

01:16:28.360 and then which kind of gives you a whole chicken and egg thing you know because god created the

01:16:32.300 angels first then he created you know our material work life and so what if he said you know i'm

01:16:37.340 going to make some of i'm going to just base life on my angels i'm going to make i'm going to create

01:16:42.200 cattle to look like my angels here i'm going to create birds look like this one so what if instead

01:16:47.560 of angels looking like cows cows look like certain angels i think that that's it could well be the

01:16:53.540 case you know and um it's a spiritual principle that as above so below is a spiritual principle

01:16:59.480 and we've talked about that in the sense of the fractal nature of reality how you know there are

01:17:05.220 systems and there are patterns that we can observe here but if you go down onto you know the quantum

01:17:12.220 level or the microscopic level you can see that a lot of these you know like the fibonacci sequence

01:17:16.900 let's say in like a pine cone or something like that but if you look at it on a molecular level

01:17:20.900 you can still see that you know to some degree there's a fibonacci sequence so you go okay

01:17:25.680 it doesn't matter if it's in the macro or the micro there seems to be this this echoing of

01:17:32.000 systems or this echoing of um laws and principles yes you know that that is not diminished by

01:17:38.740 space or time or anything like that so if you continue zooming out and you zoom out to these

01:17:44.540 heavenly realms could it be that many of the systems that we think uh you know we i mean

01:17:49.560 over and over again you look at the people of antiquity their gods which are likely fallen

01:17:55.900 angels gave them various systems those systems are more than likely than um emulations of heavenly

01:18:03.300 systems yeah nothing new under the sun nothing new under the sun so if it's if it's in systems

01:18:08.760 and and then to your point with the cherubim and and you know the various faces all it takes is

01:18:14.400 for us to not be quite aware of all the array of angels and and through that lens you might say

01:18:21.040 well maybe there is a counterpart a heavenly counterpart to every creature that exists on 0.98

01:18:26.920 earth that god created you know not the chimeric nightmare shit that gets created in labs you know 0.95

01:18:32.500 in in china it's happening in america too but um you know in these under deep underground military 0.96

01:18:37.060 bases but the natural world is a sort of mirror maybe then to to the heavenly realms i think that

01:18:44.220 that makes a lot of sense especially just given that our god is a god of order right yeah so then

01:18:48.660 why not why wouldn't that be the case yeah i mean imagine if there is disclosure and then there's

01:18:52.920 you know the and they when they come down in the sixth seal and one of them looks like a cow says

01:18:57.700 yeah i'm i'm the one who made the cows and one looks like a reptile yeah i'm the one who made

01:19:01.660 you know reptiles and i'm the one who made lions you know that's me that's that's why we look like

01:19:05.580 the the praying mantis yeah i don't have one for the insectoids that's the only one that that's

01:19:10.500 that's kind of doesn't fit my pattern i think though that that you might not see that with

01:19:14.840 grays just because grays seem to be so well maybe you will because you had that whole instance with

01:19:19.780 alistair crowley and lamb and lamb probably wasn't uh some sort of a hybridized nightmare creature

01:19:25.820 you know whatever spiritual form that showed itself to alistair crowley after he finished

01:19:30.340 doing poop magic um it probably existed independent of of man's unless it's saying you know you want

01:19:36.500 to get it to tulpas or something like that but i you know i can see that a lot of what's being

01:19:43.100 revealed could be revealed in this way like you've said ed to um to discredit it or to make a mockery

01:19:50.240 of it yeah you know because even anna paulina luna um i i sort of cringe when she you said

01:19:57.040 earlier every time somebody talks about some what was previously a fringe biblical idea that you

01:20:03.360 subscribe to when they talk about it on a big platform you know it's it's very strange and

01:20:09.260 i don't know that anybody who's been talking about these things is entirely reputable there was a

01:20:15.800 bishop a catholic bishop i think um or a catholic priest on sean ryan who was saying that in their

01:20:24.320 exorcisms these things will often manifest as what looks like a gray yeah and i thought that

01:20:30.160 was really fascinating and that guy wasn't a stripper or well maybe i don't know what he was

01:20:34.060 doing before he was a catholic priest but um you know so or during or during during being a catholic

01:20:40.300 priest who knows so i guess there are some but in at the same in the same breath he is in an echo

01:20:46.980 of antiquity like what people mock as you know because he's wearing the garb and i'm not saying

01:20:51.540 there's anything you know i'm not going to get on the catholics for wearing the dresses i'm just

01:20:54.760 saying when people see that there's this catholic priest dressed in in the traditional garb on

01:21:02.460 sean ryan's show saying when we exercise demons sometimes they appear as greys you're literally

01:21:07.640 um you look mockable to anybody who's already got an atheistic bent you know if their god is

01:21:14.560 neil degrasse tyson um which also i mean now he's writing he's writing books about ufos which is

01:21:20.620 bizarre but okay yeah yeah he's he's uh embraced the grift so god bless yeah um hey we need to do

01:21:27.360 billy carson so you know we gotta have another actually i think the new billy carson is that

01:21:32.880 guy of dr dr jang i've actually not listened to anything people are like he is crushing i'm like

01:21:39.340 i don't i haven't listened to anything that dr jang has said he is a chinese he's he's the chinese

01:21:44.360 billy carson ah there you go we need that did we need that i don't know if anybody was asking for

01:21:50.300 that don't need that on my bingo card no not at all no he does the same thing he claims to be he 0.75

01:21:54.600 claims to be actually jay dyer exposed the crap out of him he claims to be a professor he basically

01:21:58.940 was a middle school teacher he said he went to yale but it wasn't the yale you know on the east 0.92

01:22:04.640 coast he there's a yale and there's a yale university in china that's the one he went to

01:22:07.940 oh no i'm gonna start calling myself uh dr dr david who's gonna stop us right really who's

01:22:17.560 who is gonna but listen ed we're getting to it yeah i wanted to uh i wanted to like i know we've

01:22:23.320 we've wasted so much time talking about disclosure and priests and stuff like this but fine you've

01:22:27.180 been you've been working on uh more of your genesis series and i yeah and one year you were talking

01:22:32.640 about kane earlier yeah i'm actually getting into that i just wrapped up original sin i've been

01:22:38.240 taking my time going through it very slowly obviously because there's so much things are

01:22:40.880 picking up now instead of doing like you know a verse at a time in the whole show i'm doing like

01:22:44.200 old chapter now. So I just, I just finished recording chapter four, which is, you know,

01:22:48.360 the Cain and Abel narrative. Um, I've got to edit it and get it up. But then after that,

01:22:52.740 I'm going to do a, um, a bonus episode on the, the mythology of Cain, because Genesis chapter

01:22:58.320 four is the only thing, only narrative we have about Cain. He's mentioned a few other times in

01:23:02.360 the Bible. You know, Jew talks about him briefly, you know, uh, we, he's mentioned here and there,

01:23:06.400 but um there's so much mythology that people have are just force-feeding into what Cain and what he

01:23:15.080 did and so for example like you know who was Cain's actual parents were Adam and Eve Cain's

01:23:22.740 parents there's there's myth that actually Eve had sex within the gosh the serpent and that's

01:23:26.980 how Cain came to be and there's another one that said that God it was was Cain's father because

01:23:32.240 Eve says, when Cain is born, I had a man with the help of the Lord. Oh, does that mean that

01:23:38.860 God came in here and got freaky with Eve? And there's a lot to that. And where did Cain get

01:23:47.240 his wife? And that comes back to the pre-Adamic civilizations, which I think is pretty easily 0.66

01:23:52.980 debunked. It contradicts the Bible about that. But there's a lot there. Cain has a son named

01:24:00.540 Enoch. And that's where you get the idea of Enochian magic, which is a different Enoch than

01:24:04.640 the Enoch who's the descendant of Seth, where we get the pseudepickerful book of Enoch is based on

01:24:09.560 him. But there's just a lot of that Cain's line was evil and that they did all these different

01:24:16.480 things. And I'm going to get into that in that series. But I want to start with the truth of

01:24:21.300 what actually happened. So you have Cain and Abel. And why did Cain kill him? I mean, was it just

01:24:29.300 jealousy over what god felt about their offerings that seems like a little extreme but there's some

01:24:34.200 nuance to it so the first thing is that cain is the physical descent the physical son of adam and

01:24:40.660 eve the bible is very clear it said adam knew his wife eve sexually and she bore cain it's pretty

01:24:45.960 straightforward and when she says you know i have i i have a man with the help of the lord she's

01:24:50.980 just basically praising god for her first child and so um cain and abel were you know were the

01:24:58.400 first two male children of adam and eve but they also had daughters it says in chapter five that

01:25:02.800 adam lived for 930 years and has sons and daughters so there were daughters intermixed with that but

01:25:06.880 in most biblical genealogies only the males are listed because the seed goes with the male and

01:25:11.040 that sort of thing it's not because i mean yeah so there were daughters that's who cain married

01:25:15.920 he married one of his sisters most likely or he could have married or he could have married why

01:25:20.000 no nasty he couldn't marry one of his nieces why because we if you if you grew up in the church

01:25:25.520 she's had your sunday school book and you see the pictures of cain and abel they look like they were

01:25:29.220 like teenagers or in their 20s no you look at the genealogy they were middle age they were between

01:25:33.800 50 and 80 years old so at his youngest abel abel was 50 and oldest cain was 80 and if they had

01:25:40.740 daughters in between that that was more than enough time for daughters to be of marrying age

01:25:45.660 or abel could have married let's say abel got married to one of his sisters at 30 by the time

01:25:50.580 he was 50, if that's the age he was, then he could have had a marrying age daughter. It could

01:25:56.260 have been a niece. So that's one thing to keep in mind. Other thing is that, what was the offering

01:26:02.300 difference? Well, Cain was a farmer. He said he had the fruit of the ground and Abel kept sheep.

01:26:08.040 Why did he keep sheep? Was it for wool? Well, that wouldn't be a reason for him to have sheep

01:26:13.780 for 50 years. No, and they didn't eat meat at this time. Human beings did not start eating

01:26:18.280 meat until after the flood. That's when

01:26:20.380 God said, now you need to eat meat. I think it's because

01:26:22.140 the environment changed so dramatically that

01:26:24.060 we need the nutrients that came from meat. But before that,

01:26:26.240 everyone was vegan, which means everyone 0.97

01:26:28.200 was annoying because vegans are annoying. 0.98

01:26:30.340 Everybody was annoying. 0.63

01:26:31.840 Yeah, everybody was annoying. Vegan. 1.00

01:26:34.040 I'm saying, hey, Eve, I'm a vegan

01:26:35.780 every day. That's what vegans do.

01:26:38.180 They have to tell you the murder. That explains the murder.

01:26:40.300 Yeah, it's insufferable. There you go.

01:26:42.120 He's like, I can't want to eat meat.

01:26:44.380 I don't care anymore.

01:26:46.400 It's murder.

01:26:47.060 oh my god the wife i'll show you murder he was keeping cheap because that's that was a sacrifice

01:26:53.100 that was the sacrifice the shedding of bloods for remission of sin even though that was codified

01:26:58.740 in leviticus it was these blood was blood sacrifices were how you cover sin that's what

01:27:05.060 you know the first sacrifice it was what god did when he sacrificed an animal to make skin for

01:27:09.760 clothing for adamant from the animal skin so they know that you have to shed blood it was a symbol

01:27:14.600 of the remission of blood sacrifice. So Abel's job was to raise sheep for so they sacrifice for

01:27:24.000 their sins on a regular basis. So if they're both middle-aged, that means this isn't their first

01:27:28.780 offering to God. So for all Cain's life, his 60, 70, 80 years, he'd been regularly sacrificing

01:27:35.100 sheep. But this time he says, you know what? I'm going to sacrifice. I don't want my brother's

01:27:39.900 sheep. I'm good enough. I've raised really good crops. I'm going to sacrifice this to God. And

01:27:44.080 God said, no, I don't want it. Not because it wasn't his best. Because I was growing up in

01:27:49.620 church. When I grew up in church, I was taught that, you know, Cain didn't give God his best

01:27:52.700 offering, his best grains and zucchini or whatever he was growing at the time. That's why I say that

01:27:58.580 kind of like zucchini. That's why. No, it wasn't that. It was that it wasn't God's denoted sacrifice

01:28:05.220 for sin. He tried to grow. Ed, why do you think then that what drove him to do that? Like, is this

01:28:13.360 like a um how come he gets to raise the sacrifices kind of a deal here's my theory and again this is

01:28:21.140 a theory but i think it makes sense so the chapter before this is chapter four chapter three

01:28:26.060 original sin god pronounces his judgments on adam and eve and the nakash and his the judgment on the

01:28:32.200 nakash is one of the judgments is that the seed of the woman will crush the head of the serpent 0.92

01:28:37.840 of the head of Nakash, meaning that a descendant of Eve, a male descendant of Eve is going to be 0.86

01:28:44.020 the Messiah, the savior, who's going to undo what the Nakash did. He's going to undo what the serpent 0.89

01:28:49.560 did and bring everyone back to Eden. Remember Adam and Eve, they were in Eden. They loved it. It was

01:28:52.360 great. And so Eve knows, okay, one of my descendants, one of my male descendants is going to be the one

01:28:57.700 to reverse this and we're going to get to go back to Eden. It's going to be awesome. Notice that God

01:29:02.220 didn't put a timeframe on that for Eve's sake. Now we know that the seed of the woman was Jesus,

01:29:07.060 which was about

01:29:08.260 three plus thousand years later.

01:29:11.760 Long time.

01:29:12.860 But for all Eve knew

01:29:14.400 her next kid,

01:29:16.940 her first son is the Messiah. 0.98

01:29:18.640 Might get him back to the garden.

01:29:20.640 So imagine you're Cain.

01:29:22.220 You grow up for

01:29:23.980 50, 60, 70 years

01:29:26.400 thinking you're the guy.

01:29:28.660 You're the hero.

01:29:29.860 You're going to be the Messiah.

01:29:31.860 You're going to make everything right.

01:29:34.140 You're going to get us back to Eden.

01:29:35.560 And then one day

01:29:38.200 You say, you know what, I'm the guy

01:29:40.320 I'm the Messiah, I'm the king

01:29:41.620 You can take my best

01:29:43.980 God says, nope, I prefer what your brother gave

01:29:46.420 Uh-oh

01:29:47.620 You mean I'm not the Messiah?

01:29:50.380 You mean my brother is?

01:29:52.560 Hmm, how do I rectify this?

01:29:54.620 Well, if there's no more

01:29:56.680 Abel

01:29:57.140 Then I'm the only male heir left

01:30:00.860 And I get to be the Messiah 0.99

01:30:02.220 Damn 1.00

01:30:02.540 that's a crazy thought i like i mean i can see very jewish because it's like a 1.00

01:30:09.060 fool god fool god yeah yeah okay but it is like you can see the logic behind that that makes a 0.97

01:30:15.520 lot of sense this is what i'm talking about man like the ability to humanize these characters 0.99

01:30:20.460 from the bible so they're not just this uh cave painting it's not just a hieroglyphic it's not

01:30:25.080 just a concept or or an analogy or a metaphor these are real people that's a really excellent

01:30:32.520 way because it it it meshes so well with human nature yeah so think about this and also look at

01:30:41.000 what happened so first the first thing that happens okay uh is that um they do this different

01:30:46.080 sacrifices it says that jehovah respected or or acknowledged abel's sacrifice but for canes he

01:30:51.400 didn't and then it says cain got pissed he said he was wroth if you look at the king james that means

01:30:55.480 you're beyond wrath wrath is like wrath on steroids and he was just hot but he hadn't done

01:31:01.420 anything yet. And God does something. God asked him a question. He does something different than

01:31:05.460 he did with Adam and Eve. God waited until Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. Then he asked

01:31:09.240 them questions. He said, where are you? No, what have you done? Giving them the opportunity to

01:31:14.280 respond. This goes back to what original sin is. Original sin was not the eating of the fruit.

01:31:19.760 Original sin was their response. Because if eating the forbidden fruit was the original sin,

01:31:24.500 then God would have judged them right then. No, God asked them questions. He said, what have you

01:31:28.160 done what is he doing he was giving them a chance to confess and repent but what did adam do to adam

01:31:33.520 say god you know i disobeyed you i i'm sorry that was my my bad i think god could have forgiven him

01:31:39.540 but what did he do he said nope god it's your fault forgive me this woman if you hadn't given 0.93

01:31:43.220 me this hoe she's the one who did it yeah i mean he's like it was her yeah and so then he's okay 0.98

01:31:48.620 you're done he goes to eve what did you what what did you oh it wasn't it was in the gosh it was a 0.99

01:31:53.040 servant okay both of you failed so now you're not taking responsibility so this time he gets

01:31:57.920 ahead of it. Cain hadn't sinned yet. And God says, why are you mad? As my mom would say,

01:32:04.360 fix your face. He said his countenance fell in the King James. He says, cheer up, fix your face.

01:32:09.120 He said, if you do good, good things will happen. But if you do evil, sin is crouching at the door

01:32:14.260 and its desire is to overtake you, but you can overcome it. There's a lot in that verse. First

01:32:20.540 of all, it almost seems like sin is sentient. There's some kind of spirit. It says sin is

01:32:25.200 crouching at the door and its desire is for you you can't have a desire unless you have sentience

01:32:29.980 so that gets into some weird things about what sin actually is and god's ability not just god but

01:32:35.240 the the spiritual entities their ability to see sin they knew and so god says sin is crouching at

01:32:41.600 the door and it desires to overtake you but you can overcome it so he's saying you're mad you want

01:32:46.860 to do something bad don't do it but what does cain do it says cain talked to his brother and

01:32:52.740 And they went into the field.

01:32:54.600 And if you actually read it in context, he's saying he talked Abel into going into the field.

01:32:59.280 So he took Abel away from everything.

01:33:02.440 And he rose up and he killed him.

01:33:05.400 And then when he killed him, what did God do next?

01:33:08.460 God didn't judge immediately.

01:33:09.600 God did the same thing he did with Adam and Eve.

01:33:11.200 He asked him, he said, where's your brother?

01:33:14.160 And Cain said, I don't know, am I my brother's keeper?

01:33:18.600 God must be exhausted.

01:33:20.000 it's like dealing with kids like you know we have kids right so it's like i was just thinking about

01:33:24.440 the idea of a sacrifice it was like yeah so if it could have been if if ed's correct and it could

01:33:29.740 have been hey man yeah i ate from the tree but my bad imagine and god's like well now he's like i'm

01:33:35.860 gonna make you guys do something real stupid now to it like instead of just you know you could have 0.98

01:33:39.740 asked for forgiveness here but now i'm gonna make you do all this dumb shit and it's probably funny 0.99

01:33:43.040 like something you do to a kid yeah and it's sitting in the corner you know when ed's talking 0.99

01:33:47.800 about the sort of personification of sin crouching at the door I was also thinking earlier about

01:33:55.480 this idea that this system is really great and then iniquity comes in through what happens 0.99

01:34:03.520 in the garden and it's like a spiritual domino that kicks off all this shit so now you have to 0.98

01:34:10.540 sacrifice these sheep regularly in order to clear yourself of this sin and then like obviously a 0.98

01:34:17.360 much more intense and final solution has to happen 3 000 years later with the coming of christ right

01:34:25.200 but it's like whatever happens here is a spiritual domino that falls over in the garden and then has

01:34:34.280 unbelievable we can't see it right god can see it so this system probably still makes a lot of sense

01:34:43.340 In fact, I wonder if there's ever a way to just to understand that, like, oh, my God, I see exactly why you have to do this thing now.

01:34:52.080 You have to sacrifice these animals.

01:34:54.480 You know, there's a you have to adhere to the law for until the law is fulfilled by the coming of Christ and all these different things.

01:35:01.100 If you could see it like you would watch a domino, because otherwise, let's say, you know what it's like?

01:35:08.920 you ever see those elaborate mousetraps i liken it to a mousetrap but it's like a you know you

01:35:14.000 push a bowling ball and then it goes down a track and a little cartoon and then this thing happened 0.84

01:35:18.040 it's like that happened in the spiritual realm and we are retarded we don't know what's going on

01:35:24.020 you know and thankfully because god is a god of forgiveness and and patience uh we have a way 0.91

01:35:31.620 through this but if we could just peek over the wall into the next room and see all the crap that's

01:35:37.600 happening because of the iniquity that happened in the garden we might actually understand now

01:35:42.400 because you know it's it's hard to grasp it because we were so separated from the spiritual

01:35:46.380 realm at least in our perception of it but but that's how we can be forgiven is because we don't

01:35:50.000 have full knowledge and that's why the fallen angels can't be forgiven because they have full

01:35:54.540 knowledge they knew exactly what they were doing each time and i want to get one more weird thing

01:35:58.700 before we before you wrap this up hell yeah but from that same um uh verse when when god's when

01:36:04.620 when cain says i'm my brother's keeper god says you know what have you done the blood your brother's

01:36:09.420 blood cries out to you to me from the ground and it says that you know you're now you're cursed

01:36:17.020 the earth will not yield to you you know so the same earth that that um took in your brother's 0.90

01:36:21.980 blood is no longer going to yield its fruit to you and you're going to be a bag of mine

01:36:26.380 we have some more sentience here blood seems to have sentience it cried out unless you know now

01:36:32.380 Now, it's possible that God was just speaking poetically, but I don't know if he was doing that.

01:36:36.580 Life is in the blood, right?

01:36:37.960 Life is in the blood, exactly.

01:36:39.580 His blood was crying out, and the earth drew it in, and now the earth is not going to yield to you.

01:36:46.820 This seems to imply that the earth has sent you.

01:36:49.720 Now, I'm not getting all New Age pantheistic stuff with this, but let's keep something in mind that, again, angels don't look like dudes in robes with wings.

01:37:00.060 They look weird.

01:37:01.080 i mean if you read ezekiel they're they're they're almost indescribable there's an angel

01:37:05.720 that's over the sun we see this in the book of revelation there's angels that are over the waters

01:37:14.280 what if what if the what if elohim aren't just you know these things flying around

01:37:20.200 what if the sun actually is an angel what if the earth is also some type of elohim

01:37:28.680 Because the land is a character in the Bible.

01:37:31.200 The Bible's in Deuteronomy, it says, Moses tells the Israelites, if you were going to

01:37:36.740 the promised land, this special plot of land, if you worship the other gods of the other

01:37:42.020 nations, the land will vomit you out.

01:37:45.640 Again, it could be poetic, and I'm totally down with this being poetic, and I'm just

01:37:50.220 going a little overboard.

01:37:51.260 I will acquiesce to that.

01:37:53.260 but if there's some literalness to this then that just adds sentience to a lot of things and so

01:37:59.480 and again the new age people the pantheists and all that they they attribute a spirit to all

01:38:05.520 nature right but what if there's a kernel of truth in that paganistic deception well of course right

01:38:11.980 it's like they so they attribute a feminine spirit to it gaia mother earth all these different things

01:38:16.760 um and maybe worship the sun from from day one right and maybe even all of that is true

01:38:23.160 to a certain degree but it's like you can you can say that but then draw a line and go and you

01:38:29.340 don't worship it you don't worship it like that's the the main thing here this is the the mistake

01:38:35.300 that everybody makes is i think paganism can be uh sort of summarized is just worshiping the

01:38:42.560 creation instead of the creator so a lot of people go like oh we're not exactly pagan brings to mind

01:38:47.780 a bunch of germanic tribes and things like that it's like no it's anything that is worshiping

01:38:52.340 the creation but um either there there is a real spirit there and and it's accepting worship or

01:38:59.840 maybe maybe it's not accepting worship but these things these fallen elohim these these spirits

01:39:07.080 are because i think this happens quite a bit in the spiritual realm too posing as

01:39:11.160 like i am mother and it's like you're posing as a thing that is real and and does exist

01:39:16.480 it's the same thing for mother mary right when you're worshiping ishtar because ishtar is

01:39:21.040 claiming to be mother mary meanwhile mother mary is pretty bummed out about that yeah don't do

01:39:25.500 this in my name and maybe there's just certain plus maybe it's not the whole earth might be

01:39:28.540 certain sections of of the earth because they're we're gonna in a spiritual warfare class we're

01:39:34.480 gonna talk about how there are haunted lands there are certain areas that are truly haunted

01:39:38.640 and maybe there is a spirit in the actual land that that for whatever reason um is is is facilitating

01:39:48.680 this because there are areas that people just don't go to yeah you know that you know you don't

01:39:53.580 you don't transit you don't go into this part of the woods because there's some Blair Witch stuff

01:39:57.100 happening out there well if you believe in whatever's going on at Skinwalker Ranch go to

01:40:00.760 go to that section of Utah and uh and if that stuff is really happening there then tell me that

01:40:05.800 that land's not haunted major battle sites from the civil war yeah still definitely haunted uh

01:40:10.600 blood hitting a lot of blood spilled there a lot of blood spilled and we we talked about this many

01:40:14.260 times on this show when blood hits the ground it it thins the veil between our realms you know

01:40:21.000 makes you wonder about the desert uh a lot of people say that some of these deserts were you

01:40:25.800 know luscious jungles and or you know had wildlife in it at one point and now it's just deserted

01:40:30.720 dead nothing nothing could be found there it's like what happened in this place man it's also

01:40:36.740 a little sad what ed's talking about i mean it's all sad right when you just think about human

01:40:41.380 nature and what god wants for us it's a bit of a bummer because of how bad we suck but this idea

01:40:46.640 that god may have been extending this forgiveness from the jump from the second that this happened

01:40:52.920 in the garden and then that screwed up and i go okay and then you go to cain and abel and then

01:40:56.980 that screwed up but it's like every step of the way he's been like are you sure of course he of

01:41:01.020 course he was this just happened my my son just called me from my mom's phone yeah because he

01:41:05.840 messed up before i came here and i was like you're punished you're not no pool today the rest of the

01:41:10.500 day because he like today it's a beautiful day he was in it and he smacked his sister in the face

01:41:14.700 for uh pool today no pool no pool and he called me because i told him i was like hey man you know

01:41:20.520 i didn't tell him like you have to say sorry i don't tell him that but i'm like this is what you

01:41:24.860 did and there are ways to undo these things you know if you i know you're mad now you could say

01:41:32.040 it was the same exact conversation but now that i'm thinking about it feel like like right over

01:41:37.520 the target man and then he calls me and he goes hey daddy sorry and i go it's all right it's all

01:41:43.120 good man hop in that pool man like you know what you did hop in that pool we're done that's what

01:41:48.560 god wants to do god wants to go get him playboy yeah that's your dad i'll end with this because

01:41:53.360 somebody when i put that um up on my patreon um and they saw the whole thing about the about you

01:41:58.160 know that adam and eve could have been forgiven and i had some guy came and say oh no no no this

01:42:01.600 that's not possible they said they cannot be forgiven they had to go i said okay if that's

01:42:04.960 true then what was the purpose of the tree of life well the tree of life was to make them immortal

01:42:09.600 they were already immortal they there was no death they were oh the tree of life was there

01:42:14.960 to heal them if they made a mistake and confessed and repented because we're going to see that

01:42:19.840 Because we're going to see the tree of life at the end when we're in eternity.

01:42:25.360 And it says that the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.

01:42:28.860 Well, if we're going to all be in our supernatural bodies and resurrected bodies, what are we going to need healing from?

01:42:34.300 Because we're going to make mistakes.

01:42:35.360 We're not going to sin, but we're going to make mistakes and we can be healed from it.

01:42:39.740 Thank God.

01:42:40.340 Because people look at heaven as if it's this rigid experience. 0.70

01:42:43.300 They look at it like it's the Orthodox Church. 0.92

01:42:45.200 Yeah, yeah.

01:42:45.620 It's like, no, dude, I want to keep learning.

01:42:47.500 And to learn is to make mistakes, right?

01:42:49.460 uh failure and mistakes are a fantastic teacher yeah so this idea that like yeah it's all gonna

01:42:55.620 change man you're gonna make mistakes but there's literally a place to go for restoration

01:42:59.660 and in fact it was there from the jump but they were very stubborn yeah exactly

01:43:03.720 yeah always always amazing always i gotta tell matt to listen to this because this is like

01:43:12.080 really really fascinating i uh yes i love that it's it's one of my favorite your job

01:43:17.060 and i'm gonna tell them stop taking him on fridays this is ridiculous leave him alone

01:43:22.580 uh it's always that it's one of my favorite stories in the bible and it's very short and 0.69

01:43:28.000 i always wonder like what the hell happened here man was it was it the sacrifice was it the plants

01:43:33.160 was it the the meat that he gave what what was it and it's like that's i've never really received

01:43:38.020 a satisfactory explanation this one's given me a lot more to think about every time we have ed on 0.82

01:43:43.260 And there's always something that you go home when you go, damn, I guess I'll just think about that.

01:43:47.280 Because it's right. It's an alignment with Scripture. 0.95

01:43:49.440 You have all the other instances throughout the Bible of animal sacrifice. 0.98

01:43:53.000 So that makes sense that that would be happening.

01:43:54.860 And it's also incredibly in alignment with human nature.

01:43:57.900 Also, I mean, what else is in alignment?

01:44:00.200 There's a bunch of Scriptures that talk about it.

01:44:02.000 They're in Psalms and I think some in Isaiah.

01:44:04.640 But they're talking about the earth either crying out, the earth bowing down, the earth worshiping God.

01:44:10.060 Paul writes in Romans that all of creation

01:44:12.680 groans, waiting for

01:44:14.640 it. So it's always a groan. You can't groan

01:44:16.780 for something and long for something unless you have sentience.

01:44:18.880 So that means the trees and the mountains are like, we want

01:44:20.680 this to be done. We're waiting for

01:44:22.440 the sons of God to be revealed so that we can have

01:44:24.480 Eden again. We want perfection.

01:44:27.000 Even the mountains are looking at us 1.00

01:44:28.640 like, you guys suck. 1.00

01:44:31.660 Fucking kids, man. 1.00

01:44:32.980 Oh my God. 1.00

01:44:34.240 That's incredible.

01:44:35.940 Good catching up with you, Ed.

01:44:37.280 And on our way out, let's remind everybody where they can find your work and all of that.

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01:45:50.040 if you if it's on your heart to do so um join that and that'll continue to help me not have

01:45:55.960 a job anymore so i can do this full time yeah you know ed you're offering a massive service there's

01:46:01.980 a lot of um people that are you know you could do a bible study and everything but like you're

01:46:05.880 focused consistently not only in the spiritual warfare sense but is always um relationship with

01:46:12.480 god getting to know god and that's been super consistent how many episodes have we had ed on

01:46:17.720 um how long ago did we start talking to you and that has been the consistent through line

01:46:22.200 across all these conversations it's the one scripture that always haunts me i think it's

01:46:25.840 matthew yeah dude where matthew 3 maybe something like that where he goes you know depart from me i

01:46:30.560 don't know you yeah and it's like yeah that's oh you don't want it didn't didn't we do all these

01:46:34.660 things in your name he says i didn't know you and my old mentor chuck missler would say it like this

01:46:39.880 to make you understand it so how many of you know who you know the president of the united states is

01:46:43.840 how many of you does he know there's a difference that you you may know who jesus is but does he

01:46:49.960 know who you are and by knowing doesn't mean he knows you exist i mean do you have a relationship

01:46:53.500 with him yeah yeah yeah well thank you ed thank you we got to do it again i don't want to wait

01:46:59.460 a bunch of weeks but i get it you got things to do i know i i i have i have friday afternoons i

01:47:05.280 i'll start trying to book this more often all right excellent man thank you ed and guys uh

01:47:10.560 let's go into the weekend another great friday for the lord oh and we'll see you i'll be there

01:47:15.780 oh that's right yeah that's right ed's gonna be at brohemian grove ed's gonna be doing

01:47:19.880 uh the vip day so all the vip members who who bought all those tickets look forward to

01:47:24.820 A live Bible study

01:47:26.700 It's going to be us, it's going to be Ed

01:47:28.080 Matt Heppner and Laura Baker

01:47:30.140 Which is something I'm really looking forward to

01:47:32.000 That's going to be awesome

01:47:32.820 And then of course Ed will be at the second day

01:47:34.560 So looking forward to it man

01:47:36.420 Excellent guys

01:47:39.080 Don't forget

01:47:39.740 We'll see you later

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Nephilim Death Squad - May 20, 2026

Orthodoxy and Cain's Messiah Complex w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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