00:14:40.620I could be thinking of somebody else, but it was a blonde woman who was very vocal about her relationship with being a victim of Epstein's criminal ongoing pursuits.
00:14:56.140However you want to label it. It's very murky because essentially what I'm getting to here is that it seems like Jeffrey Epstein was interested in using women not only for these blackmail schemes, but to create clones of some kind, humans altered to some degree.
00:15:18.900And if you look into the, you know, MKUltra stuff, that is the intention to some degree with that research is to create a situation where someone will be an unwitting agent of your agenda and then their memory will be wiped so they have no copability and they could be a perfect Manchurian candidate as the term is, right?
00:15:41.100um now project monarch again not an official government project but a term used and i could
00:15:49.960be i could be wrong about that i mean again this is coming from mind unveiled not my own research
00:15:55.840because there's there's a lot of you know different terms that get thrown around bluebird
00:16:01.960um you know mockingbird there's a lot of right artichoke right there's a lot of different
00:16:08.660projects i think that is just part of the protocol is to keep things confusing for people like us
00:16:16.740who are trying to piece things together i just want to say that the the project monarch angle
00:16:21.780i think the reason that it became solidified in sort of the conspiracy zeitgeist is because
00:16:26.720a lot of these mk ultra like victims um would be you would see all their characteristics in
00:16:34.760you know famous people britney spears etc and whenever they do their kind of symbolism exactly
00:16:41.960so and which is the hemispheres of the brain a lot of people think it's one thing or another
00:16:45.380i think someone on uh they they were saying that andrew tate had a monarch he does yeah he had a
00:16:50.800big one on his chest it's super gay and so the idea is that the the wings of the butterfly
00:16:56.320represent the hemispheres of the brain and that a lot of this disassociative states that are induced
00:17:01.900by trauma have to do with like let's say like the binaural beats ce5 um one of the things you can do
00:17:08.500to achieve this secondary state or at least manipulate the brain chemistry of the the victim
00:17:13.580is hemi syncing right this is the monroe institute or the gates program um binaural beats that sync
00:17:21.180up the hemispheres of the brain and and unlock you know i guess uh either different experiences
00:17:25.720or psychic abilities or something to that effect.
00:17:28.640But I think that that is why it became so,
00:17:31.980I guess, kind of like iconic in conspiracy spheres
00:17:35.380is because, yeah, to your point, Mark,
00:17:38.100they're using that symbolism in all the music videos
00:17:54.740Well, and if you think about the time when Epstein was likely most active, when his influence was gaining momentum, it was around that same era that I imagine you guys, I think around the same age as I, we kind of grew up with this early 2000s, ultra pop, sexualized everything kind of.
00:18:20.900And that symbolism is not only a part of it, but it seems to be, again, the research behind it is a lot scarier than just, oh, we are using this to gain political influence and control politicians, getting them to do debaucherous, depraved, disgusting even things in order to have control over them.
00:18:48.540It seems like, again, not my original research, but it seems like it's larger than that. The idea is to create a situation where the public at large degenerates to that state. So not only do these things become easier to pull off, but victims are more willing to become victims, really, maybe without their knowledge of it.
00:19:17.500Think about these young women. They're being cajoled into these situations. And obviously, there were children involved and that's disgusting. But when it comes to women, let's say 18 to 25, who are getting put in these human trafficking situations, they're being told that they're going to become models or music influencers.
00:19:42.940right they're they're being sold this sort of and to some extent the celebrities that were
00:19:48.980popular in that time were used in those ways look at what we're seeing happening uh with p diddy and
00:19:55.800everything coming out around him obviously that stuff was not just happening in the music industry
00:20:01.700but people were willing to look the other way more more times than not right so this is not
00:20:08.440just a one-time event with certain criminals.
00:20:12.340This is a culture of debauchery and degeneration
00:20:15.980that's being proliferated not only to create a situation
00:20:20.540where, again, those victims are more easily trafficked
00:20:27.680but the population at large is put under a certain trance
00:20:31.540to act that way, to behave in such a way
00:20:34.620that, again, allows that criminal behavior
00:20:37.420to become allowed on a societal level this is actually what we we started calling free range
00:20:44.120mk ultra victims or free range mk ultra chickens it's where you want to um in you know implement
00:20:49.740that operation at scale and i think you're right the politicians are one thing you can affect policy
00:20:55.420and you know laws and things but they they began to and they have for a while if you look back to
00:21:00.780like laurel canyon and things like that but i think this technology of you know popularizing
00:21:06.520situations where you're going to end up in uh trauma and and yada yada this is um they're
00:21:12.760manufacturing culture to an unbelievable degree and the very people that they're using to
00:21:19.560manufacture that culture whether it's pop stars or influencers now i guess now it's influencers
00:21:24.240very gay um podcasters podcasters yeah so but you know they are themselves victims of mk ultra
00:21:34.500adjacent projects right because mk ultra i think at its at its core you can say is the study
00:21:40.020of what becomes of an individual who's subject subjected to trauma and then by result enters
00:21:47.160disassociative states there's a bunch of fun stuff that you can kind of pick at and develop after
00:21:51.860they enter this disassociative state um and so that creates a bunch of sub projects so when they
00:21:56.860say mk ultra went away in the 1970s or whatever it's like no it didn't it just changed names and
00:22:00.920there's a bunch of different programs that are doing a bunch of different things but you are
00:22:05.980then and especially in childhood if you can get them you're taking these people from childhood
00:22:09.740you're subjecting them to this trauma you're then paving the way for them one way or another to get
00:22:14.760them into positions of influence and then they're going around and creating uh at mass the
00:22:20.580circumstances that created them well can i can i just go skit so really quickly let's go i thought
00:22:24.900we were uh no i mean this is like something i've really been thinking about so mk ultra is around
00:22:30.080or i mean the idea of mk ultra this idea of mind control when they're looking into telepathy since
00:22:35.340at least the 50s in in the united states uh longer uh internationally so i started looking at well
00:22:43.220who was born in the 50s and uh we have jeffrey epstein born in 1954 and we know that mk ultra
00:22:51.040is not like it's not a program where they well maybe it was before but what it seems like it is
00:22:55.960now is like it's a program that's kind of like wide sweeping where they're searching for a
00:22:59.160candidate maybe they're going through schools and doing certain things and sigma programs drinking
00:23:03.340the the pink drink pink drink baby the ear test and stuff like that trying to narrow down and
00:23:08.660figure out who is the candidate for whatever they're doing maybe it's a manchurian candidate
00:23:14.120maybe maybe it's an epstein so 1950 1953 or 50 1954 epstein is born i believe it let me just
00:23:23.980make sure that because i don't want to be lying over here 1953 january 20th yeah he he was born
00:23:30.840in brooklyn at about uh 10 years old this is crazy scientists discovered the epstein bar
00:23:40.100that's interesting yeah herpes so 9 10 years old 9 10 years old is the age like i don't know that
00:23:45.880fifth grade i'd say saying they gave him herpes no i'm saying that's the age that you would be
00:23:50.800a qualified candidate for if they if they can use you or not when i was in when i was in fifth
00:23:56.220grade i was in the sigma program and i i learned later on that i told you about this this guy this
00:24:01.220teacher was like i don't know if he was grooming but he was there for a specific reason because
00:24:05.880later on when i had confronted him on facebook about like tactics that he's using like soul
00:24:11.460linsky tactics he fucking crashed out on me blocked me on facebook i was like his favorite
00:24:17.000student and completely crashed out because i was just pointing right at him i was like you
00:24:21.700are doing this you have done this thing what was happening but anyway in fifth grade that's the
00:24:27.260time period where they're going to qualify their candidate it seems like like if you're viable or
00:24:31.680not and then they're going to move forward i just find it interesting that you have the epstein bar
00:24:35.960virus which is herpes solidified in 1964 right when epstein's about 10 years old and i don't know
00:24:42.580A couple of years later, you have Barr who goes and grooms Epstein, puts him into his schools, funds him, does all this kind of like secret shit all the way to the very end where his his son, Bill Barr, is the AG when he gets when he gets arrested and kills himself in prison.
00:24:58.760and it's just something that i'm thinking in my head because is epstein just a piece of shit
00:25:03.600yes but that's what is he a manchurian candidate was that mk ultra technique used on him to create
00:25:11.440this kind of like perfect storm i think absolutely i need to continue it you know his his girlfriend
00:25:16.880came out not long ago and basically tried to it was i'm not saying he's a victim no no i'm not
00:25:21.640saying that you are either it's it's we're looking at all these mk ultra victims who are on the world
00:25:27.440stage who are then making the same thing of the of the culture right so it would make sense it's
00:25:32.940it's a system that seems to work pretty well but his uh his girlfriend was out recently i know she
00:25:37.660deleted the tweets but she was she was kind of saying something similar um she was saying he
00:25:42.600was innocent but that he is a victim of these techniques yeah let's let's think about it in
00:25:48.600terms of like what happened with uh nasa or even you know now we have like this space force nonsense
00:25:55.860But you have these government research operations that eventually go into the corporate sector, right?
00:26:06.860So why would it be any different with the MKUltra projects?
00:26:10.840They all discontinued in the 60s and 70s.
00:26:14.760And after that, according to the Freedom of Information Act reveals and a break in that was staged at an FBI headquarters in Media, Pennsylvania, there was an FBI headquarters that was broken into by protesters who basically helped get this information out there.
00:26:34.940um so again to your point top if epstein is picked up by these influential wealthy people
00:26:44.760who are connected to these you know secret businesses because again these are outside
00:26:49.780of the office of the government now you know they're they're making a lot of money doing this
00:26:54.320so they have to keep it all secret and it's not necessarily easy to keep this stuff a secret i
00:27:01.820I have an example from Jim Keith's book here, and you made me think of it when you mentioned the Sigma program because this is right out of the CIA rhetoric for this stuff.
00:27:13.780So in 1992, a psychologist by the name of Dr. Corden Hammond gave a talk to an audience of psychology professionals at a conference on abuse and multiple personalities in Alexandria, Virginia.
00:27:32.280And his lecture was titled Hypnosis in MPD Ritual Abuse.
00:27:39.560What MPD stands for is not clear at the moment, but if I see it as I'm reading this, I'll
00:27:57.460So, but anyone can go and look at Jim Keith's mass control book and find it on page, let's see, 116.
00:28:08.940But it goes into, he describes that one of the witnesses and victims explained that there were levels to this programming that patients underwent.
00:28:24.560the first level alpha is generalized mind control the base level of programming of the subject
00:28:30.780and characterized by augmented memory and the splitting of the mind into left and right brain
00:28:36.600divisions just like you're saying raven so it's multiple multiple personality disorder mpd that's
00:28:42.780the abbreviation okay great thank you yeah that was should have been obvious to anyone who's not
00:28:48.140a complete idiot like me but anyways beta is apparently programming of sexuality and the
00:28:55.260destruction of moral inhibitions this is what we see in a lot of the women that are used as sex
00:29:00.860symbols in the media yeah gamma is a level providing mind control system protection involving
00:29:08.280deception and misdirection to reinforce the programming so the person cannot be
00:29:13.620deprogram and then deeper levels and this is potentially what you're getting at with the
00:29:19.700telepathy tapes and where epstein's involvement might be delta is the assassin programming level
00:29:26.880and includes killers trained to perform ritual sacrifice theta is termed the psychic killer
00:29:33.660level according to hammond uh he quotes i never in my life heard those terms paired together i'd
00:29:41.640never heard the word psychic killer put together but when you have people in different states
00:29:46.040including therapists inquiring and asking what is theta and patients say to the them psychic
00:29:53.040killers it tends to make one a believer that certain things are very systematic and very
00:29:58.480widespread um earlier in the in this uh quote he was talking about how dr hammond is not only
00:30:08.640researching this himself but he's had other physicians and psychologists across the united
00:30:14.460states finding very similar key terms in these victim testimonies so this comes from their
00:30:23.660belief in psychic sorts of abilities and powers including their ability to physically and
00:30:29.040psychically communicate with mother in quotations and including their ability to psychically cause
00:30:35.600somebody to develop a brain aneurysm and die. Scanners. Mother. Yeah, this seems to be
00:30:43.920programming terms. And then the last, the last level that I'll read here, this is the final
00:30:49.500level described, is omega. It's the level of programming dictating self-destruction and is
00:30:55.820intended to cause the subject to commit suicide when they are interrogated or begin therapy.
00:31:01.320So this was all described by, again, Dr. Corden Hammond in 1992, and I believe that was around the same time that Kathy O'Brien came forward with her partner, who I believe worked in the government, Mark Phipps.
00:31:18.620They came forward and testified before Congress that this had happened to Kathy O'Brien.
00:31:23.920So, I mean, we've gotten to the point now where I don't know how to take, you know, the Epstein files, the release, the popularity of all of this information, because a lot of the popularity of this information seems to be facilitated by the same organizations that previously obfuscated it.
00:31:44.600and that's that's i mean i almost kind of want to get your thoughts on on that it's like you know
00:31:50.860you're doing this podcast you've been doing it for a long time longer than we have and we're in
00:31:56.260this season now where you know we were calling it psyop season like maybe maybe last year this was
00:32:04.400after about last year about last year this was when the uh cyber truck blew up outside of trump
00:32:10.980towers and it was just about the new year and we were getting hit with so much crap back to back
00:32:17.020to back that we you know we made a t-shirt called it psyopsies and yada yada that terminology wasn't
00:32:21.920something that was original by us i don't think i think a lot of people notice it at the same time
00:32:25.180it's never gone away so if you're a content creator you know in this realm of conspiracy
00:32:30.900theory it has been on one hand psyopsies and another one it's been good for business right
00:32:36.920because there's always something to talk about and i'm painting that picture in contrast to how
00:32:40.960long you've been doing this and how receptive people are now to it i wonder if you've seen that
00:32:46.720and i wonder what you make of all this because the other day i had this conversation and somebody
00:32:51.700goes yeah well the doj was forced to release this i'm like i don't think the doj was forced
00:32:57.020to release this it feels like i said the very organizations who once obfuscated this are now
00:33:03.240facilitating its release do you think this is all um on the up and up or or does it smell
00:33:10.140strange to you what do you what do you make of this season that we're in yeah i started the show
00:33:16.180in 2020 which was like you know the beginning of the the psyop right 2021 excuse me so uh right in
00:33:25.220the midst of the big psyop that was covid and it felt like even before that you know it was psyop
00:33:31.280after psyop after psyop to those who were awake you know the truth is never plainly stated in
00:33:38.300in the media and they use information in terms of warfare these days that's that's how information
00:33:46.620is shared it's not shared organically if you go to a certain level of authority it's it's weaponized
00:33:52.960and weaponized you know it's been weaponized I feel like just as a you know young person I
00:34:00.260i recognized that and stopped watching certain things because it was it was clearly weaponized
00:34:06.420to a certain bias that shifted a lot um but i would say 2025 was definitely worthy of of a
00:34:14.900season of psyops because it felt like you know one after another but honestly now with what's going
00:34:23.620on you know i think it was all leading up to this this is what they they want people to
00:34:30.260co-sign which is the destruction of you know iran for israel's purposes and probably british empire
00:34:40.100and all their uh and honestly all these monarchs and illuminati types who want to see a one world
00:34:48.180government created not that iran was standing in the way of that necessarily they had their own
00:34:53.620you know, thing going on and probably propped up as a virtual enemy from the beginning to create
00:35:00.880this situation. But yeah, I, I don't see any of this leading to more freedom. I think it's leading
00:35:08.700to, you know, one world government. And I don't know that the entire population sees that, but
00:35:18.060there's definitely a lot of people who are like, why are we going to war? Right? Like this, again,
00:35:23.620is is a non-partisan issue uh i don't think you know it's necessarily spoken about in the same
00:35:31.500ways you saw the left really going hard for palestine and they became really uh anti-israel
00:35:37.960as a you know a side effect of that uh but now it's like you know i think a lot of people who
00:35:44.660did feel like trump was speaking to their views and opinions now feel betrayed you know like look
00:35:52.700at this guy who spoke so much about being anti-war and pro-America, and now gas prices
00:35:59.080are going up, expenses are going to be skyrocketing, I'm sure, for people who have any connection
00:36:06.520to any of this stuff. And that's why I was talking about earlier trying to get away from
00:36:11.900the system as much as I can and decentralize the way that I live my life. Obviously, it's
00:36:18.920not easy but it's not impossible either and through this podcast I've met a ton of people who
00:36:25.020you know don't really get affected by what's going on in the rest of the world because of
00:36:30.760the way they've set their life up so yeah I don't know it's not something that I'm an expert in in
00:36:37.320any way but we've definitely talked about it a lot on my show as time has gone on you know this sort
00:36:44.000of religious zealotry that's happening from multiple different religions it's not just
00:36:51.060judaism and their extremes it's you know christianity and that the extremes that lie
00:36:57.520there uh the christian zionists and all that you know leading to this again holy war that seems to
00:37:05.500be fueled by secret societies i mean if you look really even just one layer deeper than what the
00:37:13.800official truth is and you'll see there's freemasons and templars and all this other
00:37:18.360you know esoteric nonsense going on and for what you know does it lead me to believe that
00:37:26.500all this stuff is real and i don't know i honestly i'm starting to think that these
00:37:32.440religious zealots are in fact just psychopathic and you know they're using these spiritual
00:37:39.700esoteric ideas to convince good people to commit to their psychopathy you know like this whole
00:37:48.620solomon's temple notion and all this other you know it's just all flowerly flowery language to
00:37:55.460mind control people it does feel like we're in this place now where i think you kind of alluded
00:38:01.240to it a few moments ago um this was the point to a lot of these conspiracies a lot of these
00:38:08.500breadcrumbs that have been left for as long as they had snack right like everyone is kind of now
00:38:12.920now we're all i feel like now we're all i just cut you off no no no that's fine i don't care
00:38:17.480oh yeah a couple people on patreon one person on patreon was upset about that yeah um and i'll do
00:38:22.120it again do it again yeah we're all of us as conspiracy theorists coming from all different
00:38:26.200angles we're now at this bottleneck right and everybody's kind of like shouldering like i mean
00:38:31.620no one's being rude but everyone's kind of like yeah my thing my thing might be it my thing might
00:38:35.640because we're right there to whatever the fuck is about to happen and it's going to be important
00:38:40.800which angle we're all looking at it from because whatever pops off if you're not looking at it from
00:38:46.200the correct angle you're going to be deceived and it almost feels like not just deceived you're
00:38:50.700going to be used to facilitate it so like if you're like let's say you know into the the whole
00:38:55.160new age thing there will be things there for you to to kind of champion and say yes if you're into
00:39:00.600the christian zionism thing and you're trying to accelerate you know prophecy there's going to be
00:39:04.680things there for you know for you to say look i was right so every side is going to have their
00:39:09.260thing there's more so i mean just in christianity alone like that we can talk to the christian side
00:39:13.360that we're on we're going to be like yes look the nephilim from uh a more i guess orthodox christian
00:39:19.540perspective those people are probably going to get swept up into something like uh uh i don't know
00:39:24.360the crusades or something yeah no something like that could be yeah yeah and that's a christian
00:39:29.040nationalism maybe yeah christian nationalism is going to be a huge movement in america i mean
00:39:33.180i think trump is moving to like rededicate america to to god i saw god i don't even know what that
00:39:38.880means anymore given his behavior and uh what appears to be like not well i mean we were not
00:39:47.700what i recognize as christianity is like so what are we committing to on the previous episode we
00:39:51.660were took because there's something in it for everybody right yeah fucking bigfoot sightings
00:39:56.000in ohio oh yeah have spiked up like dramatically in a time period of four days there was like
00:40:02.220eight sightings in this one area of ohio which may not sound like much if you're listening to
00:40:08.100this but if you just think about bigfoot sightings and how sparse and rare they are far and few in
00:40:12.640between one here long period of time one there eight in four days is like somebody saw something
00:40:20.380so even for the the bigfoot people the cryptid people there's something on the field as well
00:40:26.140uh oh we're gone now um i don't know what the hell they're cooking exactly i mean we have some
00:40:32.480ideas about what they're cooking up but i do have a feeling that a lot of us who have been in this
00:40:36.520i'm going to use a very gay terminology here truth or movement for a long time are going to be
00:40:43.280unwitting influencers of of you know uh of minds as we go into this like well weren't we weren't
00:40:52.560were you ready like uh yeah the whole israel thing the whole jewish thing oh yeah we were
00:40:56.440part of the the the the bash the jew bashing thing and then we were like wait a second here
00:41:01.080it was very fun making us you're making us do this and it is fun how dare you how dare you
00:41:06.780make us do this fun thing so yeah man there's there's something in it for it have you heard
00:41:10.020about the the bigfoot thing no i got a uh a photo from another podcaster who saw what he calls a
00:41:18.120nephilim shadow that i i thought he was a bigfoot but he said no it's a nephilim ghost like
00:41:25.040so i could put you guys in touch with him because that's right yes please but no honestly dude
00:41:30.740ohio bigfoot incursion well there's i mean there's not too much to say it is if you go on google when
00:41:37.060you go to news um this all happened within the last three to four days and um right bigfoot
00:41:43.100roaming portage county several reported sightings within days this is fox news uh news week big for
00:41:49.340bigfoot expert details excitement after wave they're calling it a wave of ohio sightings
00:41:54.820they have to be keep in mind they're of course they're going to sensationalize this but for this
00:41:58.460to make it to so many reputable publications which is weird reputable well yeah and and i don't know
00:42:04.240if that's because the overton window has shifted and mainstream media has lost its footing to such
00:42:09.240a degree that they're now trying to lean more into the fringe and the more conspiratorial because
00:42:14.620that's where you know the senses of at least americans have shifted to and i think that's
00:42:19.840probably true to some degree um it's still remarkable the columbus dispatch arising in
00:42:25.400sightings in ohio sparks interest in the state's uh famous cryptids um bigfoot in ohio one more
00:42:31.940recent sighting ohio's mythical creatures so i don't know what to make of this i mean i my favorite
00:42:37.580show is is tony merkel's the confessionals so i i look at this sort of phenomenon often for those
00:42:43.140who aren't aware a lot of his content hinges on testimony from individuals who have seen or
00:42:48.840experience a strange thing dogman bigfoot uh you know in kind of entities demonic entities and such
00:42:54.860and um if you follow his show he's had the sentiment for a while that it seems to be
00:43:01.460increasing but he's unable to figure out if that's his own uh what would you call it bias
00:43:07.380from being so close to the situation or if that's a reality but then when you see this this is
00:43:11.560confirmation and i guess the reason is the question is why is this increasing so like right and then
00:43:18.360this could even go down to uh the epstein files mark did you ever think that you would get uh
00:43:23.980almost what is it four million it's like three million definitely three million emails from
00:43:30.140like from what epstein was doing like talking from no it's turning to seven million now seven
00:44:04.700release of information pertaining to epstein um i don't mean to sound cynical but i just
00:44:11.060had a suspicion that all this would be covered up right i mean yeah it seemed like he might not have
00:44:17.600even died like if you saw that quick little news story that came out a few weeks ago about
00:44:24.460his footage from the cell being reviewed and there's like a blur where like something was cut
00:44:32.540And maybe a prisoner was allowed to walk out of a cell. So, yeah, I mean, who knows? Maybe there, again, I don't like to play into this whole white hat, black hat thing, but I'm sure there's people in positions of influence on that level who would like to see justice serve to these types of people.
00:44:54.340Because again, it's blackmail, you know, it's a blackmail operation. So anyone who is a part of it, I mean, yeah, there's a lot of sick and twisted people who probably enjoyed committing those crimes, but I'm sure there were people who are substantially affected or circumstantially affected by it that would like to see this kind of stuff end in politics.
00:45:18.260You know, I know there's very few clean politicians, but they do have some influence.
00:45:24.340You know, I'd like to think that not all of these politicians are in the hand of blackmailers, but who knows, maybe.
00:45:32.080It's just when like the timing of it is what gives me pause, right?
00:45:35.560So you have the release of the Epstein files as the war in Gaza and Israel is like really spiking.
00:45:44.260they're uh they're positioning on iran and that's going to be a big deal when we're talking about
00:45:48.980nuclear bombs being dropped and then for no reason at all uh you have you have uh obama
00:45:57.160talking about aliens being real on a podcast no one's ever heard of and then trump goes oh yeah
00:46:02.240i might just declassify that it's like literally within a two-week time period those three main
00:46:08.240things are now on the table as legitimate real and will be talked about in the future by the
00:46:14.520mainstream yeah i think you guys are already well ahead of the average person on this but aliens are
00:46:22.120faking gay and if anybody disagrees with me on that go and read saucers of the illuminati by
00:46:30.140Jim Keith, he lays out a pretty convincing case that it's humans operating these technologies,
00:46:39.360whether they're craft or some sort of hallucination that's taking place. But I believe the people that
00:46:46.480are being abducted are being used for their biological materials, for these MKUltra programs,
00:46:54.100cloning potentially yeah and you look at what jim keith compiles in that book and it's a lot of
00:47:01.400you know case by case you know evidence that shows that people were being kind of like convinced
00:47:10.280afterwards to think that it was ufos or aliens that did this to them right so it seems like it's
00:47:17.240a false memory syndrome kind of thing where a crime is committed against a person. They go to
00:47:25.020court. A hypnotist gives testimony on their behalf. And then the CIA covers these criminals
00:47:33.380ass by saying, oh, no, it's false memory syndrome. It's just the same playbook in a different realm.
00:47:40.380and it works in the way that victims have a story that nobody believes i mean for the most part
00:47:48.100until a certain point and they probably phased this type of operation out 10 15 years ago which
00:47:53.980is why they're willing to let people speculate about it but you know uh you think about how
00:48:00.320people were treated when they came forth with some sort of testimony about aliens or ufos they were
00:48:06.020my family thinks I'm crazy. And to go back to your question about my thoughts on everything
00:48:13.000going on, I'm like, should I change the name of my show? Because so many people are red-pilled
00:48:18.000now to the truth, not to get into the whole pill analogy conversation. But you know what I mean?
00:48:24.960So many people have become aware of things that five years ago when we'd talk about Epstein and
00:48:31.740try to convince our friends that this kind of thing was going on or even our family if you're
00:48:36.280brave enough that they'd think you're crazy right now it's like it's just out there and
00:48:41.920to a sickening degree where people are like not only do they believe it but they're disgusted by
00:48:47.020it and it's made people kind of hopeless in that sense right now there's a war to distract us from
00:48:53.920that but uh i think you're you're right on though with this you can't change the name of the show
00:48:59.560though no too much my family thought i was crazy maybe that yeah it doesn't it doesn't hit as hard
00:49:04.300yeah um well you know what it is mark they're still gonna think you're crazy because after
00:49:08.540everybody comes around to accept sort of the pleiadian star homies or whatever and you're
00:49:13.260you're gonna still be saying and that's kind of the curse of almost um uh pursuing the truth no
00:49:18.920matter how disruptive it is to your original uh paradigm is that you're always going to be in a
00:49:25.100place where like as the paradigm shifts you're not going to be accepted if you're really still
00:49:28.760pursuing the truth because if we're moving towards disclosure um and and whatever the hell
00:49:33.240they're going to say elizondo and his homies they're going to jerk each other off on tv and
00:49:36.520they're going to say what about the what about the technology it's going to oh it's going to be so
00:49:40.060good and you're going to say what about the entities and they're going to say yeah benign
00:49:44.320space homies from a galaxy far far away no so you're still going to be crazy you're still going
00:49:49.380to be against the the the narrative as the narrative shifts no matter how dramatically it
00:49:53.280does um but i do think that you're correct the vast majority of abductees they're actually
00:50:01.500experiencing something that is a cover for an intelligence operation and and i think
00:50:06.020that those intelligence operations are still pretty mk ultra adjacent um i think you're right
00:50:13.080they're taking genetic material from individuals they're they're they're pulling the cum they're
00:50:16.860doing all this stuff they're there and i think there's a hybridization program that is real
00:50:20.360um israel and it's they're doing it um but you have to ask at that you know what are we being
00:50:28.220hybridized with you know what is like the black-eyed children phenomenon what are the
00:50:32.520grays i think a lot of the grays might actually just be like biological automatons that they use
00:50:37.520to like show you this thing so that you remember that instead of the fact that there was military
00:50:43.320personnel present there was medical personnel present um and you were in a very scientific
00:50:48.200you know almost hospital environment while they was doing these experimentations on you
00:50:52.620um so i think you're right a lot of it is is is a a farce i do think there is a small percentage of
00:50:59.240it that actually is physical and and non-human but i don't i don't know what that is like when
00:51:06.560when david ike who you know god bless him he's a fucking mess right now um he's freaking out on
00:51:12.660twitter because everybody is getting popular off of information that he put out a long time ago
00:51:17.360and he's not getting his flowers for it and other people are you know it's it's just whatever that's
00:51:21.440the nature of being first right when you're first you're not going to get the flowers you're going
00:51:25.420to get the arrows and then later on when it's safe other people are going to come out and they're
00:51:29.300going to say the thing and you're going to feel real fucking bad about it um but either way i i
00:51:34.640do think there's something to be said about you know like reptilians if people are having these
00:51:38.900experiences and there's uh insectoids and and i and i try not to get too caught up in these things
00:51:45.560because you can't define them right you don't understand their nature i don't know how many
00:51:51.760horrifying creatures they've made in labs in tunnels beneath china or some shit like that
00:51:57.580and they're now rolling them out to be part of this you know whatever is an extension of an
00:52:02.420intelligence operation so i do think there's probably some reality to people having these
00:52:07.580experience with flesh and blood beings and also i do think that there are uh spiritual entities
00:52:17.320that are outside of the human condition you know and maybe they're the ones if you look into
00:52:22.200how these things were previously contacted by occultists and new age thought leaders and all
00:52:28.520this other shit it was done through channeling typically it was done through like some sort of
00:52:32.180a drug-induced state and they would channel it if you're looking at uh crowley he's got to do it
00:52:37.400through ritual and through meditation and through seances and he ends up contacting awos and lamb
00:52:43.040a lot of sex a lot of butt sex the butt sex really helps um so so i think like before these things
00:52:49.140were but i think that's real before these things were ever abducting people in that way they were
00:52:54.740being contacted and a lot of these guys said that the way you're doing it right now with ritual
00:53:00.120and you know meditative states the way you're going to do it in the future is technology i i
00:53:06.920think that the technology that we're doing it with is frequency based technology and that's a
00:53:11.160whole other thing and i think that all springs forth from those programs mk ultra etc but yeah
00:53:15.840man so i think you're right over the target the vast majority of this shit is a cover for you know
00:53:23.760covert operations within the government and let me just say i hope like because i think mark comes
00:53:29.480from a perspective where it's it's pretty like material like i really do fucking hope that it's
00:53:33.900like just some cia operatives that are doing this to people i just suspect that it might be
00:53:40.720it's it's a it's some of that and it feels like it's it's some of something else too well that
00:53:46.020which is fucking terrifying yeah go ahead mark what do you think about that yeah i don't discount
00:53:51.240that at all i don't mean to come off as uh like a materialist i guess you know that seems to make
00:53:56.940the most rational sense to some degree but i mean the evidence does point to them putting a lot of
00:54:05.600money into these occult um you know protocols for lack of a better term methodologies right
00:54:13.020and uh yeah i don't think we should discount that at all as to whether or not aliens are
00:54:19.440flying in from other galaxies i think that's pretty clearly a lie um but whether or not
00:54:26.940There's some sort of interdimensionality to it.
00:54:30.500I don't discount that or even an entity that's been on the planet
00:54:34.740as long as we have in another form, something non-corporeal.
00:54:40.320And I think there's a lot of evidence to point to that,
00:54:44.520especially when you're looking at Epstein or at least his associate Wexner
00:54:50.660who claims to be possessed by a Jewish demon for his whole life.
00:54:55.820right like so this isn't something that they're a stranger to and i imagine that they probably
00:55:01.260you know fancy getting a demon of their own if they you know could right like i feel like this
00:55:09.100is kind of the thing that they're all interested in right so mark did you see the video of lex
00:55:14.840wexner as he's being uh deposed or questioned um they ask him they ask him something about like
00:55:21.800maybe epstein's penthouse because i know he sold it to epstein for like i don't know ten ten
00:55:26.160thousand dollars it's like a multi-million dollar penthouse 50 million dollars something like that
00:55:29.640and they ask him and there's a point where he like looks down and it looks like like if someone was
00:55:35.780over his shoulder he kind of like goes and like flinches he does a whole thing he does a whole
00:55:41.680fucking shakes it off it's it's the most bizarre thing it's like like like a demon or something
00:55:47.140is in his ear telling him don't fucking tell him that yeah and then you have that picture that black
00:55:51.380and white photo of of the oh yeah there's like a shadow or whatever yeah it looks like a face in the
00:55:56.160in the shadows next to him listen this is all circumstantial stuff but when i see somebody react
00:56:00.200and you look behind him and there's nobody there i'm just like oh man like the voices right everybody
00:56:06.040knows about the voices yeah that guy just heard a voice right there and it told him don't say
00:56:13.040whatever you're about to say either that or it told him like you know you're fucked you know
00:56:17.520you know what i mean you're fucked you're going to jail they're gonna kill you they're gonna now
00:56:20.340everybody's gonna find out he's like oh god no i think that's what happened there yeah man i mean
00:56:25.500well have you you haven't seen that um that video mark and maybe we have it here no i mean please if
00:56:32.460you want to share it i'd be happy to watch it but yeah no i haven't seen it yet yeah i have it so
00:56:37.640own benjamin did it did a pretty great breakdown of this we'll play play a couple seconds of it
00:56:41.540and uh we can check it out so he's here's like buy something nice want to go to abercrabby and
00:56:48.040bitch and have an excuse to look at the boys with no shirts on let's see if they show up they don't
00:56:54.340have a big team we float in and around oh i know i think it's just he's just roasting him here
00:56:58.820or just rip it up another one um well i do think that you know one of the things that seems like a
00:57:06.640constant is that these people in the and this has been the same thing through antiquity right
00:57:11.820the priest class um the the rulers of the plebs they have always been the ones who are the
00:57:19.960recipients of coveted knowledge and information from the spiritual realm right and and i don't
00:57:25.300think that that's changed i mean i think just because in 2026 they wear suits and they they
00:57:31.740fuck a kid on an island like a gentleman instead of at the top of a ziggurat um i don't think the
00:57:37.060game has changed and i think they're still doing the same thing and i think this video of lex wexner
00:57:41.140is uh is him uh still you know listening to them here we go there is a young woman named alicia
00:57:47.000arden he's shaking how about that shake when he shook his head it almost sounds like there's a
00:57:53.400demon whispering to him doesn't it like watch this could i ask one it's time to slit your own
00:57:58.540throat less slit your own throat less do it do it now he's like no no not yet let me feel one more
00:58:06.240thing it's just like bizarre he's getting there is there were a couple instances of that during
00:58:12.680that deposition i'm just like man there's something else going on here that we're not
00:58:16.500we're not privy to it's got to be hard right i mean you you built this entire empire off of
00:58:22.220thinking that you were untouchable and now in your old feeble life they're they're coming for
00:58:28.140you and they're exposing these things like yeah he's probably got a lot of shit whispering in his
00:58:31.540yeah yeah i can't imagine it i i think there is when it comes to uh voices in your head there's
00:58:40.880definitely technologies that can do that to people now but this is a different case altogether um
00:58:48.740for sure so yeah i mean what compels people to do bad things evil things who knows maybe it is
00:58:57.040demonic possession um i don't think we should give people that excuse but at the same time
00:59:04.020uh if you are in league with a demon you must be a pretty bad person to to attract that kind
00:59:09.620of attention to begin with right so the way that i've come to understand it is is not so much that
00:59:15.040um you're in league with it it is that something happened trauma seems to be the doorway which is
00:59:20.700what the mk ultra program figured out too trauma seems to be the doorway it changes the brain
00:59:25.740chemistry in such a way that these things now have access to you and what in the average individual
00:59:31.520manifests as like an intrusive thought to uh an oppressed individual is is much louder of an
00:59:37.580influence but the thing is you still always have free choice right you always have a say in the
00:59:44.000matter and the more you consent to the things that it says to you the greater influence it has over
00:59:50.800you so it's a it's a vicious cycle it's like a feedback loop it tells you to do a thing you have
00:59:55.500a fucking choice you can say no um but as soon as you do consent and you do that thing now it
00:59:59.840has even more of a grasp on you so i think it's like in league is is maybe one way to put it um
01:00:06.700but it's much more like a parasitic relationship and the the more that you give it access the more
01:00:12.060that it it can feed off of you or at least that's how it seems to be in in in our research um and
01:00:18.160who knows lex wesner i'm sure has done a number of things wexner uh a number of things that have
01:00:24.560given these these entities these spirits whatever you want to call them a lot more access to him
01:00:30.920than when they first started interacting with him so um the guy after the guy's book that you were
01:00:37.600mentioning does is there is there any other uh extrapolation or on these kind of details like
01:00:42.920what else does he get into well he's written a number of books one of the things that i was
01:00:47.760thinking about mentioning earlier was how black helicopters overwhelmingly were associated
01:00:54.360with cattle mutilations. And if we're talking about cloning and whoever is using these genetic
01:01:00.600material, it's conceivably possible there might be some sort of reason they would want to use
01:01:07.460those parts of cows. I don't know. The technology there is very strange too. If you look at some of
01:01:14.640these cattle mutilation cases, the precision at which some of these animals were mutilated,
01:01:23.040it's like with it'd have to be with like sophisticated technology that the average
01:01:29.660person doesn't have access to but maybe you know a lot of people at the time thought that was a
01:01:35.700satanic ritual of some kind it could be one in the same you know and that's kind of Jim Keith's
01:01:41.800point is like maybe it's not aliens maybe it's this occult interdimensional demonic presence here
01:01:49.720that certain agents, certain agencies, certain government bodies, secret societies have access
01:01:56.860to and are in league with. And then to the earlier point you're making Raven, yeah, maybe it isn't
01:02:03.300that these victims of this system are in league with it necessarily. But once you have that
01:02:10.380demonic parasitic infection within your family and that abuse cycle begins, like, yeah, you become,
01:02:18.620That's just a part of, like to our earlier point in the conversation, this degeneracy of culture that occurs from this demonic influence.
01:02:27.940But Jim Keith, he concludes that there really isn't much evidence to support this being some kind of alien, gray alien type of thing that the media likes to portray.
01:02:41.820That it seems more often than not, people were being abducted by other humans.
01:02:47.580And to what ends, he found it seems like there's some occult significance to it. Occult rituals, ritual abuse, mind control. It's all in the same nexus. It's all connected.
01:03:01.660Yeah, I think we just we've been subjected to a lot of propaganda by Hollywood and such to really flesh out what the alien phenomenon is. And that's what what upsets me a lot. When people go like, oh, you think you understand what this is? This is aliens, you know, or they'll look at Christians who go like, this thing is demonic, which I would agree with, you know, to say we've had this discussion back and forth.
01:03:27.300But to say they're demons is a very specific thing. To say that they're demonic, meaning like in opposition to humanity, I would even say that the technology, I think that the technology and the methodology that the government is utilizing was developed through channeling.
01:03:45.660i think that a lot of this information and and the the way to hemi sync and all these things
01:03:51.520it's also worth mentioning right steven greer's ce5 app is a binaural beats app that hemi syncs
01:03:58.280you and then you can call in orbs that are ufos you know into this realm um you can also get like
01:04:04.400schizophrenia or have this regular poltergeist poltergeist activity yeah yeah hauntings i mean
01:04:09.600you're opening up some sort of a door whether it's a door to uh government agents it's very
01:04:14.120possible i think that's a huge possibility one of the things that always gives me pause like you
01:04:18.100just mentioned with uh the the black helicopters and the cattle mutilation is like an important
01:04:22.920detail when this happens to the cattle they oftentimes leave it in the field and i know for
01:04:30.860sure if i leave something in the field like i have 10 acres something dies there a chicken dies you
01:04:35.760leave it there for a day that shit's gone yeah and if it's not gone by a predator it's going to be
01:04:40.580eaten by ants or bugs or whatever and it's just going to be dissolved to its carcass to the bones
01:04:45.680and maybe not even that these cattle they're left in the field after the these intense mutilations
01:04:52.700nothing touches it to the point where it's like its skin becomes leather from the sun because
01:04:59.260they'll just sit out there and they'll petrify like a mummy it's bizarre so there's a technology
01:05:04.880and you know it's easy to be like aliens right like with the guy fucking aliens um but there is
01:05:11.000a technology that's being used on these things to cut them open with this laser like precision and
01:05:15.960like take their all the blood out their body and shit like that and it's not either it's not human
01:05:21.700or it's extremely toxic because the things on this earth the natural order of this earth doesn't
01:05:28.520recycle it back into the into the earth which is just what's supposed to happen so it just that
01:05:35.620that's why i find the disclosure uh so fascinating especially the arguments that we're having with
01:05:40.660like these people like albarino because we're talking past each other in a way yeah he's saying
01:05:44.860like the disclosure is going to be great don't you want to don't you want to see this thing don't you
01:05:49.620want these people held and you know the people held accountable yeah sure whatever like i'm not
01:05:53.140i'm not holding my breath but uh the technology is completely separate from the phenomenon that
01:05:58.860we're talking about the aliens or the little grays or the tall nords or whatever the fuck
01:06:04.220they're going to give us these are two different things one exists and they continue to give us
01:06:10.540short little you know little blasts of it yeah here here it is here's a piece of alien technology
01:06:16.940fiber optics right yeah how we're talking right now this is fucking it's crazy just even a couple
01:06:22.160years ago we wouldn't have been able to do things like this because the technology has come so fast
01:06:28.080so far so well the question that's interesting to ask after that is like what did people of
01:06:33.840antiquity say about you know supposed technology they have i think the vedics are a great example
01:06:39.180because they had all these vamanas and flying cities and bell-shaped crap supposedly and you
01:06:43.640could say that that was just mythology but where did they say they got it from well they got it
01:06:47.340from gods okay so so entities from the sky gave them all sorts of technology and as far as i'm
01:06:57.820concerned those those entities i think i understand what they are and you know a lot of people
01:07:01.640disagree but whatever um it seems like the same thing is happening right now what we're going to
01:07:07.680be dealing with though it seems mark like the the uh discrepancy between the technology that's
01:07:13.420gonna make our lives so much better just i mean it's just gonna be better but people will be
01:07:18.140getting like super cancers and stuff but you'll be able to travel i gotta if you had like fucking
01:07:22.880like jet boots and it gave you super cancer like yeah but then i might take the super i take my
01:07:27.360jet boots to the place that solves the super cancer because they'll have that you know so it's
01:07:30.740like yeah we'll have shit like that and then we'll also be like well there's also like aliens and
01:07:34.700then we'll have to kind of deal with this new thing i don't i don't know where to put any contract
01:07:40.400they have to butt fuck uh 10 of the population annually but we get super boots which like even
01:07:47.320if i'm uh opposed to that i'm in yeah well i think it works multiple ways it conditions the people to
01:07:55.860believe in this uh authorized fiction right like this sci-fi stuff it's not unreal it's just the
01:08:06.020premise, the context to which people are receiving this information is warped. So there are aliens
01:08:14.080in the sense that there are non-human entities. Where their origin is, I think, has been obscured
01:08:20.440to keep our brains thinking about space travel and the Jetsons and all this other bullshit that's
01:08:27.280come out of the American media. But yeah, there's other really compelling points. One guy that's
01:08:37.740not been killed for his research. Again, Jim Keith, really unfortunate circumstances. Remind
01:08:47.340me before we wrap up and I'll tell you exactly what happened because it's really strange.
01:08:51.560But another guy who I just interviewed on my podcast, Adam Go-Rightly, has a book called Saucers, Spooks, and Kooks. And he also put out a film recently. And it basically just highlights how throughout the whole field of ufology, the CIA and other intelligence agencies are all over it, like manipulating information.
01:09:16.480and not only that but actually paying people to put out disinformation and steer people
01:09:22.060in a certain direction and uh you know it's it's not people we wouldn't be familiar with either
01:09:27.700like uh one pretty popular ufologist who i think a lot of people have probably seen on ancient
01:09:34.960aliens is the woman um what's her name she's always talking about like the space brothers
01:09:41.500and all this other stuff no it's it's another it's another woman she's um
01:09:48.300this is in a different kind of light completely like diana pasalk is interesting for
01:09:55.180for different uh reasons but yeah there's there's a couple different female ufologists who have
01:10:02.520become uh popular one of them's related to uh eisenhower but i'm thinking of there she is
01:10:10.620there's a picture of her i gotta find uh linda molten how sorry so yeah linda molten how is
01:10:18.040somebody who i mean on the record admitted to receiving information from these you know
01:10:25.400basically agents and afterwards it came out and she kind of played it off but yeah yep bring her
01:10:32.400up i want to see physiognomy check oh it's not great it's not great of course it's not great
01:10:36.500physiognomy check let's see what's her name linda fucking yeah no not good i don't know she's a she's
01:10:43.280a mile okay okay never mind all right there is a there is a type uh these uh aliens or government
01:10:52.140people have a type and and that's it they love ugly people well i think you have it's it's kind
01:10:57.960of like the red you know you know the phenomenon of the ginger person that that uh is joining isis
01:11:02.880or was joining ISIS after 9-11 like they're socially not accepted uh in society and then
01:11:08.700they they get swept up yeah to be honest and I don't want to be insulting but go ahead be insulting
01:11:12.620no I mean Vicky Joy Anderson she was oh they tried but she's too based she was born with like
01:11:17.380a facial uh construction issue and yeah multiple surgeries but it's same the same sort of issue
01:11:23.060like I think she was also born with a super dope dad yeah who was like kept her like you know like
01:11:29.240in alignment in the right way and now she's
01:11:59.160like the phenomena of ufology and contactees and all that no she's not she hasn't had an
01:12:05.380experience herself um but i i'm almost certain some of those people even got wrapped in the
01:12:12.640epstein stuff not uh anyone uh from her generation but some newer people talking about like uaps and
01:12:20.460stuff like that was connected to some of epstein's uh emails people that he was in the loop with
01:12:28.400i'm actually going through you guys been on the list of people named in the epstein files
01:12:34.700wikipedia page yet it's it's hard man because i don't know what to make of that it's like
01:12:39.080you know like i said it's like in his name but he's named for not wanting him on the file so
01:12:44.320the context is also super important right right yeah for the most part i'm just seeing people
01:12:51.220that were in contact with him but it seems like epstein loved magicians because he was emailing
01:12:57.220both david blaine and david copperfield so uh well this is we have to leave some room for like
01:13:05.120like magicians are fun you know what i'm saying like epstein probably did so like he played
01:13:09.880on an island didn't ever play fortnight or something like that that's the thing he's
01:13:14.480involved with everything he's involved with uh micro transactions and video games so they say
01:13:19.520i'm just like this is just a little too much yeah yeah and so in some ways i've been using that like
01:13:26.460albert pike line where you know when the people need a hero we will provide one for them that that
01:13:30.820same thing applies to villains they're really great at giving us a bad guy and i'm not saying
01:13:36.500that epstein wasn't a bad guy i'm just saying it's weird to all of a sudden have what seems to
01:13:41.860be the linchpin that connects all of these conspiracies like he's some great mastermind
01:13:47.940and then it goes even further it's like the the bad guy from uh from black phone also like they
01:13:53.860modeled him after which is like damn may well be but i i i'm hesitant to um to look at an
01:14:02.400individual human and go like oh the source of all of our woes even even fucking microtransactions
01:14:09.140on call of duty uh the the source of all of our woes i don't i mean when you hear that doesn't
01:14:13.960that does that seem strange to you or do you think like you know it is plausible that this guy
01:14:18.900is i'm not saying a mastermind but involved in every fucking thing no i don't think everything
01:14:26.580you know i think he was really in he was in connection to very specific things i wouldn't
01:14:32.840say he was connected to everything you know uh yeah micro transactions might seem out of the blue
01:14:39.360but if the guy was interested in meeting children and trafficking children maybe he'd want to be
01:14:46.040invested in major platforms that children were you know connected to right and he's just he's
01:14:52.680just a jew who likes to pinch a penny well and i'm sure there's a financial motivation behind
01:14:57.980everything he does but i i'm not someone who's saying he's like the you know sole head of this
01:15:06.300network i think really what happened is he's a fall guy who probably had a lot of different
01:15:12.260you know pockets hands in other people's pockets and who knows i mean honestly it does seem like
01:15:21.040too much to sort through but specifically what's interesting to me is his connections to
01:15:28.140dna research genetics researching computers where that overlays with you know neuroscience i mean
01:15:37.760there's definitely some things that are striking as far as like what he was interested in it seemed
01:15:45.360to be it went beyond just human trafficking like using humans to clone or to create some sort of
01:15:54.840vessel for an entity right like this is whether it's a person who's paying to extend their life
01:16:02.540or some kind of nephilim demon like you know it it really is unclear from again the emails and the
01:16:10.940few documents that were released but the victim uh there is one victim who has an encoded journal
01:16:19.280did you guys see the encoded journal so this encoded journal it really it's i think it's a
01:16:26.440rail cipher so it's not like a complicated cipher it's like if you were to write a sentence going
01:16:33.040up down up down up down up down so it looked like you had two lines of words but it obviously
01:16:40.600wouldn't make any sense if you read it you know without going up down up down up down right so
01:16:46.260anyways people have deciphered it and um she basically is writing this message in code
01:16:54.840to jeffrey obscene it seems and she's expressing how upset she is about being used as an incubator
01:17:04.360so you know and that that's a direct quote i'm not you know i think what's really going on there
01:17:12.200Whereas, yeah, he was probably impregnating women at this Zorro ranch place and then using the babies for who knows what, you know, awful things, I'm sure.
01:17:23.540Yeah, there's a there's another email about that, which with a woman who seems like almost obsessed with him.
01:17:28.840Oh, yeah. And she seems cool about it.
01:17:31.100Yeah, she's actually happy about it. She's attributing the genetic experiments from him to the birth of her daughters.
01:17:40.680I think even, like, she goes as far as saying she took some sort of a turkey baster after he was done with another person, inseminated herself.
01:17:58.820But there is no shortage of whenever you have genetic manipulation, cloning, things like that, it seems to run hand in hand with the spiritual side.
01:18:08.660like uh we just ran into uh uh railion she's this girl had like you know the railion tattoo the
01:18:14.860swastika inside the star of david on her chest and she's claiming she all kinds of all the same
01:18:21.140normal shit but like that cult specifically is obsessed with uh uh the elohim which is like a
01:18:28.120it's basically alien so elohim in the bible means uh not from this earth they're from the heavens
01:18:35.120speaking about angels whether they be fallen or still in the glory of god that's the connotation
01:18:41.640connotation and term for elohim god himself is also an elohim so that's the species of
01:18:48.120being that this is they worship these things but also on the side underneath they have a cloning
01:18:54.320program no problem you know and they got shut down in the united states i think they're operating
01:18:58.260this bitch is from uh the uk somewhere so they're still over there they're in africa for sure
01:19:03.420and there's just always that strange overlap of we're doing you know we're looking at the the
01:19:11.440nuts and bolts of this thing genetic hard facts we're also looking at this the soul the spirit
01:19:18.300uh you know entities whatever whatever you want to call it some sort of spirituality it's like
01:19:23.540hard to shake right yeah i i have no doubts about that i think you know it's part of why
01:19:30.100I lead a somewhat superstitious life in the sense that, you know,
01:19:34.660I believe in God and I believe in, you know,
01:19:38.840doing good by people because karma is real and, you know,
01:19:42.980not hurting people or violating their rights, right?
01:19:46.020So, and I hope that the community I live in lives by those, you know,
01:19:51.160standards. And if not, I'll find another place to live, you know,
01:19:54.340and that's kind of the best I've been able to do, but it definitely, you know,
01:19:59.380It doesn't bode well for being an optimist doing a podcast like this because, and not your podcast, but my podcast, because, you know, overwhelmingly when we talk about these subjects, it is, you know, dark outcomes.
01:20:13.860You know, there's a lot of things that have been swept under the rug that you go and look and it's, yeah, it doesn't settle well with you.
01:20:20.940So being a normal person after learning all this stuff, I think, especially now that this information is being proliferated everywhere and the average person is more aware than ever, I think we're going to see hopefully this cynicism or nihilism evolve into people motivated to change the world and make it a better place.
01:20:44.900And ultimately put these criminals, these disgusting people behind bars, you know, justice served to the victims of these awful crimes.
01:20:57.140Dude, I don't know what's going to happen.
01:20:59.900I know that there was a time where I said we weren't going to get the Epstein files until they were ready for the next piece of theater.
01:21:06.800I looked at the Epstein files like a plot device and you wouldn't release them until you were ready for whatever the next thing is.
01:21:12.300And I jokingly said on Twitter that after the release of the first batch, it was January 31st or something or whatever the hell it was, 20-something, I said, look out for three things.
01:21:23.180Look out for alien disclosure, war with Iran, and the collapse of the dollar because I thought, like, the Epstein files would be such a big plot device that whatever came next would be a big shift in the narrative.
01:21:35.560And so, of course, as we sit here, I don't even know what today is, March 16th, it looks like all those things are on the table. We're certainly in war with Iran, and we have disclosure on the horizon, and I don't know, maybe the economy's not in as dire strengths as I thought it was going to be by this point, but it's in such strengths that it could at any moment burst, right?
01:21:59.860So, um, we were having a discussion with Topher Gardner, biocharisma, and he brought up something
01:22:07.020that I hadn't, shout out Topher, shout out Topher, he crushes and, and he brought up
01:22:11.620something that I hadn't considered really, because like you or like you top, right, we're
01:22:17.060all immersed in this to such a degree that like, when a thing happens, we kind of almost
01:22:22.740laugh about it a little bit, you know, it's like, Oh, look, Benjamin Netanyahu's got AI
01:22:26.740hands or some creepy shit like who cares and we might talk about it our last president didn't
01:22:32.380even have hands that's right yeah he's a robot that is like his hand went through the microphone
01:22:36.020like everyone nobody remembers nobody cares he wasn't even a man he was a robot feet tall it
01:22:40.200doesn't matter now he can't walk he's data carby in a rubber man it doesn't you know but it doesn't
01:22:44.540bother us but what tofer mentioned was that yeah dude there's a whole chunk of the population the
01:22:52.220boomers that when this veil gets torn to the side like those people are just gonna fucking die
01:22:58.940you know so so you're talking about like hopefully people will call for arrest and things like that
01:23:03.820and like i was thinking about that idea and everybody dying boomers dying oh yeah no it's
01:23:09.340horrible no no like the idea of that like why that would happen it's like ripping that band-aid off
01:23:13.780but i knew a guy and this happens often deep like deep into alcoholism like just an alcohol i work
01:23:20.000with him in a safety sensitive position and the dude would like we're not allowed to be drunk
01:23:25.000you're not allowed we have drug tests he'd be drunk he'd be drinking on the tracks great worker
01:23:29.700but he had to functionally be drunk you know yeah he got clean yo dude within two months dead
01:23:38.040like so like he took away the thing like the formaldehyde that was just keeping him alive
01:23:44.240yeah and when talking about this idea of with the boomers or that kind of class that that formaldehyde
01:23:51.520of ideas that's pull it all away at once yeah they're like congealed in it you know because
01:23:57.440it's it's not just the the horrors it's the degree to which they're complacent right this is what
01:24:03.360tofer was talking about they're complicit thank you i made a word up no no it was a real word
01:24:07.760just they're also yeah they're both and um this is what tofer was talking about as far as the
01:24:11.760complicity which might also be a word that i made up um no you're good is is the idea of like you're
01:24:18.480an evangelical christian and your church is telling you that you have to bless israel and
01:24:25.340what you think that means in your mind is that you have to defend them no matter what horrors
01:24:30.220they commit on the world stage and you have to finance them you have to fund them you have to
01:24:34.400donate to them to whatever degree that you can and they can do no wrong and then when you find out
01:24:40.680you know if there's ever going to be this big reveal which it seems like we're in this season
01:24:44.900right now where Israel's disproportionate influence in our government and really the
01:24:49.660fact that they just want their enemies in the Middle East eliminated and they're using us as
01:24:52.900an attack dog or they're trying to accelerate prophecy to bring about their Moshiach or you
01:24:57.700name it if they're ever exposed to that on top of the idea that Epstein is Mossad and this and that
01:25:03.940I mean like yeah you played a role in that you kept those blinders on and you listened to the
01:25:09.940official narrative and you uh basically hoarded all your wealth destroyed opportunities for
01:25:16.700generations trusted the plan trusted the experts right all kinds of shit you did all the things
01:25:22.140that they might be the most complicit generation in facilitating all of the horrors of you know of
01:25:28.3602026 um it's gonna be hard man it's gonna be really hard i don't think you can just have an
01:25:34.720about face and go like, well, I was wrong. Um, it's better to start looking at things more
01:25:39.980realistically and start, uh, I don't know, withdrawing my funding from the Christian
01:25:44.560Zionist church that I go to and, you know, start looking into the, the, I shouldn't sell my house
01:25:49.600for it's like, you know, 10 times what I brought it for and fuck my kids. Like there's so many
01:25:54.060aspects of this that they're going to have to deal with. And I think so that that's going to
01:25:59.340create a disassociative state, which is kind of what we're talking about, like back to this MK
01:26:03.260ultra technique but when you're 70 you don't handle that right you don't fucking break and
01:26:08.600then get put back together as a super soldier you break and you probably just have a stroke or
01:26:12.660something well so um i know i know mark has to wrap it up in a couple minutes so i i just want
01:26:18.760to kind of push that line of thought to you and and get your uh get your opinion on it as we as
01:26:24.180we bring this to a close yeah i mean i'd hope not but i think most of those people uh
01:26:33.020are glued to the television so they're going to live their you know trance out however the
01:26:40.760television you know i think if if nothing changes with the major news networks none of the boomers
01:26:48.480will have that uh collapse because they're so tied into that like their whole world revolves
01:26:56.660around what the news tells them for the most part i mean i'm sure there's plenty of exceptions and
01:27:02.700people who have strong families you know those people will be fine but uh yeah no i can see what
01:27:09.720you guys are saying where people just begin to unravel and i don't know it already is going on
01:27:15.600if you drive around you might see people on the street with signs i saw a person the other day
01:27:21.420that had a sign that said uh trump s8 kids and you know i am like you know hey it's the truth
01:27:29.720according to the the document release let's put it out there i saw another guy with a sign that
01:27:35.320said honk for peace i'm like well that's kind of doing nothing but i appreciate the sentiment
01:27:40.340and i honked but yeah like i think that's a good example of people starting to you know unravel a
01:27:46.960little bit when you start writing on cardboard and solo protesting out on the on your own um
01:27:52.740But yeah, for the most part, I would hope that people's daily and weekly routines are strong enough that they wouldn't be so dependent on what the rest of the world was doing.
01:28:07.360you know we got to live i mean stable lives to be able to make the world a better place right so
01:28:14.180if the boomers are gonna unravel and explode like that so be it because there's like you
01:28:20.180kind of illustrated the the most program generation uh that we've seen in this american
01:28:25.680modern experiment so yeah yeah i mean it's it's horrific partially therefore mark before we uh
01:28:33.200let you go up uh just so can you explain to us what happened to the guy oh yeah we got one more
01:28:37.980important question for you before you bounce so jim keith in that book i was telling you guys about
01:28:44.620uh with the black helicopters um it's titled black helicopters across america he talks about this
01:28:52.540specific bacteria that kept being found uh in conjunction with these cattle mutilations
01:28:59.660and somewhere along the way he attends burning man okay sketchy already he falls off the stage
01:29:09.800at some point during one of the performances he has to go to the hospital a few days later
01:29:16.600and in the hospital in the operating room he dies there are complications or something and
01:29:24.760what's so strange is that when the autopsy was done, the bacteria that he was writing about
01:29:31.360was found in his knee. And that's something that's very anomalous. It's not just a common
01:29:39.080bacteria that's just floating around. So some people have speculated that that was a message
01:29:45.640being sent. But he also wrote a book about the Danny Casolaro situation. And that guy had died
01:29:53.360under very uh obvious not suicide uh circumstances but that's how the um that's how the autopsy was
01:30:04.400written so yeah it's that's very yeah it's very weird what happened with jim keith and i would
01:30:12.000urge anybody interested to check out his books they're still available for the most part uh you
01:30:18.220buy them on amazon and uh there's a bunch of them there's at least eight or nine um and yeah very
01:30:24.700well worth the the small amount of money you'll put into it for the valuable information
01:30:30.000in the books um but yeah i'd be i'd be interested to know uh if you remember what that uh what that
01:30:38.060organism was or the the what was the colostrum is coming to mind but i feel like that paired with
01:30:45.420that was another word like it's colostrum yeah probably it's but we're talking about cows here
01:30:53.000so maybe something's going on there but yeah no it was like colostrum something or other um
01:31:00.260yeah i talked about it with monica perez on a recent episode um we should talk to toad he
01:31:07.240probably knows he knows about breast milk yeah no because it's probably it's probably the same