Owen Benjamin IS King David | NDS
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1 hour and 37 minutes
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Summary
On this week's episode, the brother and sister duo of the and sit down and talk about all the crazy things that have been going on in their lives over the past few weeks. They talk about David's sudden departure from the show, what it means for them, and what they plan to do in the future.
Transcript
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I'm going like, as soon as it clicks, I want to go right to it.
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I love your intro and your graphics and the work you put into it.
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I just don't like to sit through an intro, dude.
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that's why i wanted to be my i didn't just want to text you last night but last night i was like
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i gotta tell top you i don't want i don't want any more intros like you gotta go right into the
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show well technically this is a nephilim death squad show right now no i know but i'm just saying
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with okay straight bible so oh but even on nds you just went straight in huh did we well it's a
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really important show well it's this so this is an nds show labeled as straight bible and the only
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reason i did that is because i really like the way i made the background that background does
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crush okay all right i love when you love your work like the lights you just did you're so happy
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about that they do look good pat myself on the back all right so what let's let's talk about
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what's been going on because there's been crazy crazy supernatural stuff you want to talk about
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david first uh why not no okay the most supernatural thing about the rage oh wait he's calling
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is i miss him like i didn't miss him the first couple days but now i miss all right we'll talk
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to him this is going to be a more serious and focused episode after the first five minutes okay
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let's go david what's up man we're live oh shit is that true hey hey stop cursing let's go did
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you tell everybody that i got fired or is it is that still something we haven't released to the
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public well now they know okay uh there will be no severance uh we're just going to be moving on
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moving forward so stop okay just tell him he says hi i want to get it out of the way
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god bless you guys i guess i want to get it out of the way god bless you guys
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i'm on my way to get the i'm gonna leave to get the truck and we'll see what happens they said
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it's done i don't know what that means but we're gonna find out let's go we're just i so we're
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talking about crazy spiritual warfare and things that have been happening spiritual healing and i
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guess we should talk about david because i know david's gonna come with uh a spiritual story
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well remember before we before i left and i was telling you about a dream and then we got
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interrupted because we were going to be on uh on somebody's show and they showed up into the
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studio so i stopped telling you about the dream yeah oh yeah well matt doesn't remember so he
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could stop making that up but after the second half of it that i didn't get to tell you was
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weird and felt exactly like witchcraft in fact that's what i woke up saying um and then i got
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my truck so but if that's all they could do then uh is is the jeep driving uh apparently it's a
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it's all done and um i'm going to go pick it up uh real soon so i think so i think we're good to go
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i'm gonna say something slightly not slightly but incredibly feminine it's gonna be very embarrassing
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but i feel like it does need to be said that's being nasty today you know we started the show
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when he goes, I love the work you've done for the show
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with the graphics, but I don't want to play an intro
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Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I was like, this is
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today i had an overwhelming sense of like i really miss this guy like when is he coming back
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have decreased by 97 percent burps yeah farts 65 cleanliness has increased by 97 percent yes for
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sure and but the listenership has decreased by a corresponding substantially it's accurate so
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everybody misses you everybody's asking about you but that was a very bizarre feeling and i was like
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what is the i don't know if i like this what is this feeling i kind of miss him we've got we have
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someone in the chat michael david he's not gonna hear this michael manifesto says never buy a jeep
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at least not a newer one 90 to 2006 were the last good ones he's not gonna hear that dude
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he can't hear it you know what it is god has put a god's god's put a block on his ears he doesn't
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care he doesn't care he wants to ball out the jeep looks cool he's gonna look cool at the beach
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Oh, I'm going to send you a picture, right?
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Because even though it was a piece of shit and it wasn't doing well, I took a picture
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of it this morning in the sunlight, and I said, fuck, man.
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I've learned to tune you out when you speak, even if it's nice.
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all right so that's spiritual warfare topic number one down topic number two is that um
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uh you know right after i celebrated my 24 year anniversary with jessica
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uh maybe if you remember we had a 19 year wedding anniversary in uh june well i i know this is a
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little yeah i guess i'm going all chick stuff today actually which i'm fine with that like i
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always celebrate the day we met we met on july 3rd she was uh i was partying with her uncle i came
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in off the boat i was trashed i was on ghb and drinking the red dogs and uh she was in the
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kitchen making uh pasta salad with her mom and uh i was just suddenly with her mom and her sister
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and so um so i you know i wasn't saved at the time i just saw her from behind i was like damn girl
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and then we were just in love ever since dude like from that day so like i celebrate july 3rd
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got her like a really nice piece of jewelry we'll say because i love her she means a lot to me and
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then right in the middle of all that like a day or two before that she's she started to have like a
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dizzy like a dizzy thing you had weird stuff going on here too right yeah just just i mean yeah
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more than normal more than right but we both have stepped away from it a little bit like that's the
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thing is we're kind of trying to step away from it a little bit and uh so she started to do the
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dizzy thing i don't you know sore throat uh runny nose like whatever even fever it's like whatever
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they want to know what you mean by piece of jewelry i got her something nice they just said
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suspicious i agree okay she she's like um she's like one of these old-fashioned chicks she's like
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a chick that could be placed anywhere in the timeline she's like a timeless chick so she likes
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uh a lot of time travel you guys do a lot of time travel uh we're not really gonna get into that
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right now but she could exist anywhere in the timeline and uh she likes the old-fashioned like
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the gold coins like the small gold coins you put those on a necklace and those are rad dude oh cool
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yeah like those are very rad yeah yeah because i love her yeah all right coin boy looks out for
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him for me he's a he's a good man so anyway so she's doing the the like very uh you know standing
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up driving anything is making her dizzy i don't know what's going on with it but i don't like
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dizzy you know what i'm saying that just seems like a like a bizarre thing yeah we go to somebody
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who specializes in vertigo we go out on the boat over the weekend and she's fine on the boat we're
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like rocking on the boat snorkeling getting we're getting scallops all weekend we're snorkeling we're
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getting scallops she feels great she thinks she's over it get home no you dizzy dizzy we go to
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somebody who specializes in vertigo they put her on this thing and it goes tat tat tat tat it's like
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a thing that tat tat tat uses like sound and like a vibration to kind of i don't know not a doctor
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but it's like the atlas the c1 the something's out of line and so when it like pinches the thing
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then the blood flow is not right something to that extent yeah we do that she's very she's like
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okay cool we're working on it but doesn't feel good the next day or the next day then i see my
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boy thomas dude from the gym dude's a savage too he's a healer i know this dude's a healer
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because like uh he saw me before i didn't really know him so bro my shoulder's messed up i always
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see you like doing interesting stuff he goes do you mind if i like touch it so he like touches it
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does some stuff gives me like two stretches boom my shoulders healed dude come to find out every
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like old guy in the gym has issues like right here with the with the where the shoulder
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so he's done that before other times i'll be like bro you're limping bad bro he's like here
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you mind if i go yeah yeah go ahead he'll like adjust my leg and he's just a healer like some
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people are healers and i'm not i'm not talking about like they have like necessarily this
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supernatural gift of healing i'm not not saying that though but it's like something in them they
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are healing people like you could go you could go to doctor school and not be a healer you're
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just a doctor and you prescribe stuff and yeah you get the patient and you get the patient out
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you get the money well there's people that are healers so so i see him i said bro my wife's got
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this thing he's like dude bring her in he's like we'll just get you guys in after hours or whatever
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so we go in was it only yesterday yeah dude so she's been dealing with this for like a week
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nancy thinks that you're taking uh amy thinks you're taking part in witchcraft
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nasty why would you say that i don't know she's being real mean oh no no she doesn't no amy's
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kind of chill now she's not i'm not saying she likes me but i'm saying she's got a little more
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neutral and she's not necessarily she's saying like witchcraft maybe got at jessica is what
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she's saying which i which i get it i get it where people um could come to that conclusion
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maybe yeah no we're actually not i don't think i mean i always love it i think she means it
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she's laughing now no she's we're i feel like we're kind of a little bit more see okay i told
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you dude i think we're like buddies now as i'm saying this story is a lot more meaningful about
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like the love of christ because everybody knows the history of me and amy and now they're like
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you know what amy doesn't hate me and maybe she was right about some of the stuff she said
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i'm i'm very terrible at cutting people off i'm well aware of that she's just very aware too and
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says mean stuff about it which is fine i appreciate that all right that's your story so we so i say
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bro can i get can i get jess in there he says yeah bring her in we'll do it we'll do the thing
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after hours we go in he's like yeah come with me man i'll take you to the doctor because this dude's
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not a doctor he's like a helper i don't know what the word is i don't know what it is he's a high
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level healer but he's not the doctor we go in bro it's an indian dude you know i like indian people
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like right from the jump because zach poonan's from bangalore he's my favorite preacher and so
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right away i like this guy i'm not sure where he's at with the hindu maybe i don't know what's
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it smell like in the office no no he's very aware of that he says at lunchtime he doesn't eat indian
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food he only eats at night because he doesn't want to stink up the office or the gym and
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afternoon like he says this is a good dude i'm like okay interesting good good he gets a hold
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of jess's neck he starts like doing some stuff she's like ah ah you know like it hurt he's like
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doing this he's like pushing he says yeah yeah this is completely out doesn't take an x-ray
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doesn't take an x-ray doesn't use a machine doesn't do anything starts like moving stuff
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like this pushing here going like this got her arm up hold arm doing things and he goes okay
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look to the right she gets like teary-eyed dude she's like it's not i don't i'm not dizzy
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he's like okay look to the left she goes i'm not i'm not dizzy and then he like pulls out this
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thing that i don't know it's like her nail file thing is what it looks like but it's all metal
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and he starts just like scraping the bone she used to get these uh really bad headaches like
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at the bottom of the like the top of the neck bottom of the um skull bad headaches he said oh
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yeah that's he like identified all the things everything that she said he goes yeah that's
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blah blah blah she said this yeah that's blah blah he starts going like this and he just like
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she's like ah ah and then like done he's like okay get up and walk around dude she's like teary now
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she's like super teary she's walking around she's like i can't believe this like i thought i was
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just kind of i'm gonna live like this yeah i didn't know how long this was gonna go like because
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we're we're not like sick we don't get sick and we don't also don't go to doctors because then
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he's like why didn't you come here sooner i was like bro we don't do the whole doctor thing and
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like to be honest it's it's a physical therapist i'm like physical therapy is not even like on my
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radar that's that's not even a thing to me like i don't i don't know but now bro i will like i took
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them gallons of um i took them dirty chives i took them tons of pastries i took them just sent
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them with jam and with uh energy bites and got them gift cards and you know they didn't even
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charge us like that was the thing when we came in after hours like not gonna charge us i was like
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dude there's not like what's the name of the um of the the place why would you do that why wouldn't
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you ask me before we go i don't know i figured i figured you'd know because you went there no i'm
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like uh not necessarily great at that i don't know he's just right here dude but yeah if anybody has
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like a this is a dude so you say like yeah why didn't god just heal her like you guys know god
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like you and jess know god you guys are tight with god i don't know i think sometimes uh god does a
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thing to get you in cahoots with with a guy i wouldn't have met this guy any other way come to
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find out he's got the line we start talking about zach poon and he's from bangalore gonna find out
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find out this dude's like born in india and was raised raised pentecostal he's got a lion and the
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lamb painting on the wall that's beautiful i said bro what's that he said yeah it's kind of a sad
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story it's a patient of mine that's got alzheimer's she comes in and sees it and she goes oh what a
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beautiful painting and i tell her every time you painted that isn't that wild dude i would love to
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have this guy on the show dude well yeah i don't know if he's down or whatever i don't i don't
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really know him but i'm gonna try to like uh keep in touch with him i mean yeah he can come but just
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tell him you know indian food after lake center for rehab physical therapy i'm telling you dude
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like i would travel to like a like a person who's a healer it's like so worth it dude it's it's
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there's no comparison to like somebody with a great education but doesn't care dude people who
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are healers is is like that's so valuable so like i feel i was like sweetie for us to know this guy
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now this is this is so good lake center for rehab yeah lake no lake center for rehab physical therapy
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the villages florida spanish plains you're probably at the maybe there's another one this
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one spanish plains yeah i want to see it because uh that's just bizarre lake center for rehab this
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one here i know we were kind of walking out yeah let's look i think it's all five star reviews jess
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went in and did the fight yeah huh dude the guy is a healer bro like like jess was like this is
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this is crazy that uh he didn't do he didn't he didn't use one machine he didn't do an x-ray
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he knew everything about my spine he knew everything about my neck just from like touching
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yeah and that's like what yeah that's you would think that's what people are learning if they go
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into like medical school they learn how to be a healer no i think there's a there's like a
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comparison in music as well a lot of people that go into it they learn the theory and it's very uh
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like nuts and bolts one plus one but the people who never learn it learn it by like hearing and
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internalizing the sound and then they they create things rather than replicate things so it's the
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same aspect there yeah dude we had uh that's exactly what bennis the menace said yesterday
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about cemetery school that they just like they're just like teaching you these things but it's like
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these are the topics you're not really learning how to how to read the bible and learn the bible
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there you're being told what to think about the bible right right yeah it's all the system all
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the world rather than how to think all the world is like that yeah everything in the world that's
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why the bible is like very clear do not love the world you're not part of the world because this
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place here that that you found is like this place is every other place in the villages when you pull
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this up like i you go into here yeah it's right it's right it's literally right outside of the
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coffee shop this looks like the entrance to the hospital and what you're gonna get there i mean
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you can it's just western medical stuff but inside here you found some sort of gem that's bizarre
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that's but but that's what i'm saying is like my guy thomas from the gym and he's tatted up he's
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like neck tats all sleeve tats like he's badass in the gyms dude just a cool ass dude i would
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have never guessed he was like a gentle like healing guy i would never guess that but i've
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just been vibing with him at the gym and talking to him and then i realized he was a healer but
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now i know it's from sitting under this doctor that's why he's a healer you got to get that guy
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on the show maybe they both carried it maybe he carried it but it was never unlocked till he sat
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under this doctor and then they have a rad because he was in there for the whole thing they had a rad
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relationship dude the two of them they were saying stuff back and forth c1 a2 this they were just
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saying all this stuff back and forth and he's like nodding his head going yeah it just was a neat
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thing dude and that never happens to me typically to go in like a american medical building and
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something like that happens yeah and you you went in like after hours too right yeah that's crazy
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yeah that's crazy because we saw jess she came in here and like she walked through the door and she
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was like no she's been like that for a week like this and she was scared to turn her head because
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she's been like it's been bad dude yeah not only that especially for a chick and then you're kind
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of stuck at the house you know people don't like that dude that stuff can get weird quick man when
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you're just at the house too much yeah and she's doing i mean dude she's making us like super good
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dinners and doing everything she can in the house but she's like it's only a week in a figure eight
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so yeah you know imagine the people that gets locked in their house and they you know they get
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in this downward spiral and they don't get out dude imagine what that does to them
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she told me that happens in new york anyway in the winter because you don't see the sun
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yeah yeah it does yeah which i thought it's like a seasonal depression and everybody just finds it
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normal like no this sucks dude i thought she was making it up i just thought it was like oh yeah
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another problem you know everybody's got a problem and then we went there and i was there for like 10
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days and didn't see the sun for 10 days upstate new york right yeah yeah it's even worse up there
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i was like they were like what do you want to do today we normally go on adventures if we're on
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vacation i was like i just want to lay in bed i don't even leave weird man i only ever live in
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sunny places though i'm not gonna live in some place where it's like i love cloudy days because
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i never get cloudy days but 10 in a row no way dude yeah yeah when when it gets cold over here
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it's kind of like a relief a little bit you're like oh that's nice when it's cold in new york
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you don't want that because it's going to be cold for six months but this is not what we came here
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to talk about today you want to get right into it yeah i think we should um i i brought it up to you
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i was like yo man your guy owen benjamin has been trashing king david in a very like a hilarious
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fashion and you're like yeah i don't know what he's getting i'm like well owen does a thing
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where he chooses a topic he digs deep on it he finds the funny and then he continues to like
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he's on to something and I think he might be right
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I think he said something to the extent of like, David didn't discipline his son.
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So he ends up with a son who like rapes his sister and then David gets run out of town and David's son bones all of David's concubines on the roof in front of everybody.
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And it's something to the extent of like, if this happened in America, like we'd get these people out of society.
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to me, I look at that and say, this proves the Bible is true. Like if you're just making a book
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about religion and this is one of the key characters in your so-called religion, you're
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not putting that story in the book, dude. Yeah. That's a horrific story. There's a 0% chance
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you're putting that story in the books. You say, well, then why is that story in the book of your
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religion called Christianity? Because it's not a book about a religion called Christianity. It's
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the story of reality. The reason that story is in the Bible is because it happened.
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so there are things that i think he gets right that like something like that i'm like all right
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you got that right like this is brutal and uh but there's like an understanding to the rest of the
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story and the rest of the book sure what led to this some other things i'm like i don't think you
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got that completely right um but how is he even close dude this guy has a profound mind like i
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was i'm only in like the beginning of chapter three how to slay a wizard yeah and so i was
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chilling at the house just kind of waiting for you to get back to me and uh i was reading it to
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jess and bella i was just i was like i want you guys to hear this real quick and i looked over
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at them as i was reading it and they were they're both like this what did you read just chapter just
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the beginning of chapter three where he's exposing like how the spells work and like
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bella bella was like that yeah dude she liked it i was like sweetie i hope you don't get offended
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you better be careful no she's got to be careful because that is the that's why they can't have him
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talk right right i don't i don't want to like say whatever like what persuasion anybody's from
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but if if he's talking and you're and you're perceptive to it that means that whatever
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indoctrination you've been under before didn't work well it was just it was light shit and it's
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gonna fall off if you if you keep talking to this guy you keep listening to him yeah he's just saying
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like um how to manipulate people it's all the same whether it's like politicians salesmen drill
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sergeants hypnotists it's all the same and then uh he gets into this uh he says like look at the
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language around conflict when one side takes people they're called hostages when the other
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side takes people they're called prisoners a hostage is an innocent a prisoner is a criminal
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same situation two completely different emotional responses produced entirely by word choice
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nobody even notice notices it happening because the process is so fast that you don't stop to ask
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wait did these people actually commit a crime or did someone just call them prisoners because
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it's more convenient this one got her heart take the word adopt you adopt a child sounds beautiful
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but how much did you pay thirty thousand dollars so you bought a child yeah no i adopted a child
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okay but the money changed hands and a child changed homes the word adopt does the work of
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making a financial transaction feel like an act of pure love i'm not saying adoption is bad i'm
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saying that the word is doing something beyond describing what happened and you should notice
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when words do that that was when i looked up at him and they were like this this is what i was
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talking about yesterday with the word manipulation when we were talking with stacks farmstead which
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was a fun episode go check that out uh but a great dude from pa man yeah yeah solid dude he bought a
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new microphone too after i was telling him like you need a new mic you help a lot of people i
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noticed you tell them hey do this on speaker get this mic hey have you looked into that light oh
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what about and they ask you for advice like in the beginning of the show too of like yeah but if
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they want if you want an echo and you're like hey do a b c and d and you're always like oh yeah that's
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no big deal i'm like yeah for most people that's a big deal like it's just second nature to you but
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most people are like i don't i don't get it yeah listen if i could help out i'll help out but uh
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we were talking about the idea of manipulation with words i love when i glaze you and you act
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like you don't like it that i just glazed you but you love it that i glazed you i love that go ahead
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sorry i'm just saying like you need help if somebody asks i'll help you if you don't ask i'm
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not gonna help you we were talking about that as well with the idea of manipulation and words i was
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like well yes number one did they ask if they did ask then i can help how can i help you now with
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his uncle his uncle's a boomer and they were talking about a heavier subject like the nephilim
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and he's like he's not going to hear me he sent me an ai meme about how it's wrong and i was like
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Well, then you have to engage if you want to, you have to deem if it's like, you know,
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worth your time or worth his time, levels of manipulation that you're going to use to
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You you've adopted, you've done a good thing, but realistically you've brought a kid, you
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Let's just use plain English, which I, which I love this because I just feel like that's
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where I always was with every, even as a salesman, I was like.
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very blunt with people when i got there i would say look i'm here to get a purchase order like
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that's what my company pays me to do that strips away the magic of it's intense it gets intense
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like a guy like dave rubin you probably know him he's a conservative jewish gay wait the guy that
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produced the bc boys no no what no no different dave rubin no that that's a different oh that's
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rick rubin that's rick rick rubin you sure i think so yeah that produced the bc boy a bunch
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other stuff too i think he hooked up with uh jay-z later too but dave rubin was touring with
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uh jordan peterson and uh he has like a big show the dave rubin show whatever but he's kind of a
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phony he's gay he's a conservative he's a conservative gay like boys with boys or gay
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like you're making fun of married to a man married to a man homosexual is what i mean um and he's a
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conservative we have to conserve old school conservative values right like christianity
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but also he's jewish but recently what he's done is here you go no no because it's interesting
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because he's jewish but judeo-christianity you see how that like these two things it was like
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oh but i'm gonna slip these titles so he'll use the word me and my husband adopted two boys and
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of course it's always boys and owen benjamin or anybody else will go you didn't adopt two boys
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you brought babies but yeah they yeah yeah and why is it always male babies but like he said
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it's not bad to adopt but let's just call it what it is it's fine you bought a baby i know but people
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hate me for the same thing i'm like there's nothing wrong with going to the sunday show but let's stop
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with the shenanigans and call it what it is it's a show i was listening to pastor rick and shout
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out that episode came out yesterday uh he did there was a freudian slip in the beginning there
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i don't know if you caught it oh how didn't you catch that what was it when he said uh yeah on
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sundays we do the show and then he goes i saw the service i know you saw that and i was just like
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damn it man i went like this but because it's and it's not even like an admission he's not doing
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anything wrong but it is a show you know like we're practicing to do a show there's a whole
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entire production so it is a bit of a show right like but we call it a show we call it we call it
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sunday service what it is is a show so again the two words uh the same thing but one is softening
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the blow if we could at least call it a show i think people would be more responsive though but
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then what do you do in the situation here? And this is something that I'd ask Owen as well.
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You have, I don't know, let's say you have drag queens coming up to do a burlesque show. That's
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a show. And then you have Pastor Rick going up to bring forth the word of God. But before that,
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there's going to be music and there'll be a video and there'll be microphones and lights.
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They're both shows, but we have to create a distinction between a guy dressed as a woman
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showing off fake boobs versus like somebody's best effort to bring forth the word of God.
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That's why I said even my own words are manipulation, right?
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Like we're going to deal in manipulation if I'm talking to your uncle about the Nephilim.
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I have to then manipulate because, well, first off, you've already been manipulated.
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You've been manipulated for years and years and years.
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yeah saying that bluntly to somebody is a great way to start that's that's heavy i don't even
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know if people can hear that but then you just say so do you want to do that or no because i'm
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good either way i'm good either way i don't care i'm about to break your paradigm i'm not selling
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you anything if you want it great if not i'll dust my shoes off and go to another town but even so
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what i'm engaging in still is manipulation because i am still like my the words that i'm crafting
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to break that spell it's they're like manipulating them in a way to do that sure any every anytime i
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tweet every word is well most of the time the words are placed carefully i wish i was good at
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that i'm terrible i'm just like should send things and then i hit the send button i'm like you just
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voice the text and say i'm like that was a way more important text i shouldn't have just hit the
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send button so quick i should have like clarified what i was saying i don't i don't do it every
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time but you're great at that when it's important and you have to craft a thing right you have to
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crafted now now we're talking about word craft which is like spell casting this whole this whole
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book is about that yeah and that's your big takeaway when you read this book is you're like
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why can't i would say 999 000 out of 100 000 but now i'm like what there's not i don't know that
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there's one pastor in america that could articulate it the way this book articulates it
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which is specifically of like how evil the world is and to not be seduced and deceived by the world
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When the Bible goes to great lengths to say, don't be deceived by the world, the world
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If any man loves the world, the love of the father is not in him.
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It goes to great lengths to say like you adulterers and adulteresses know you not that the love
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This book exposes the world on a level that's like not exposed within the church system.
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So, so you, so it does make you say, okay, what's happening here?
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I'm already like that with the dude Owen Benjamin, because as you know, our destinies are intermingled, if you will.
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If Owen Benjamin doesn't get invited to Bohemian Grove last year, you don't get kicked out of Leesburg.
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You never begged me to open up a podcast studio here.
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I don't beg you to open up a podcast studio, and then I don't become the third member of Nephilim Death Squad.
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If I don't become the third member of Nephilim Death Squad,
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I don't ever get kicked out of Nephilim Death Squad.
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If I don't ever get kicked out of Nephilim Death Squad,
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So the whole thing goes back to Owen Benjamin in a weird way.
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In a weird way, you're like, oh, you're stretching.
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Like, in a very bizarre way, like the story of Owen Benjamin
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And I just think it's God saying, hey, keep your eye on that.
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Well, it's funny because Owen has played, and it's so gay to like,
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go back and I'm like and glaze him but I'm just I don't want to I don't want to act like I'm
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glazing I'm just telling the truth of what happened a lot of people go oh there goes top
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he's doing his impression of Owen Benjamin is like I don't know the guy played a pivotal role
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in my thinking I remember uh 2017 what do you mean they say you're acting like him
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well because I because I do things like him because his way is a very natural way it's a
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very it's almost like it's in us but we're afraid to like act like that it's because i think what
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he's what he does is the way you're supposed to act yeah and you and you find out that like okay
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if i apply that principle over and over again and act like this it's going to be rough but the
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outcome eventually will be good and luckily enough i was able to watch him and watch him do all the
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mistakes and do all the things and then see him still end up like good he's i mean him moving to
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uh to idaho uh was a reason why like i'm in new york and i'm thinking i'm like i gotta get my own
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land you know i gotta get out of this hellhole like it's a spell that was broken that's one of
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the spells they're like i'm happy as a pig and shit look at me with my you know expensive house
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and i got a little patch of concrete and i'm in new york and people really like this area and was
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like yeah look at me and then you you realize like oh no this is not wealth this is actually a curse
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and that so he breaks that spell for me and it's like just finding him accidentally maybe on rogan
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or something and then i'm like let me listen to this guy did he go on joe rogan he was on rogan
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a lot like back in the yeah back they're not buddies now though um something happened he was
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on rogan and uh he said he was actually on with this guy kurt metzger which is very funny and
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that episode like kind of went sideways because they were joking uh rogan was joking and owen was
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trying to make like a profound point he's like hey hey you guys are headed toward destruction
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like that kind of thing and i think that was a mistake on owen's part to go serious because
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he's always playing the part of the joker because you're a comedian yeah yeah the part of the joker
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is to expose it but not so serious when you expose it yeah but the thing is too like it
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it's it's a relatable part of the journey which i've been on as well when we're talking about
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manipulation and how are you going to talk to people um when something just happened to you
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you figure out christianity right you figure out god you're like wait a second god's like the thing
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i got to tell everybody and when they don't when they're like yeah all right you're like no no no
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sit down you need to hear this and it's like it becomes preachy and you get serious and it's not
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fun and it's not funny although it was still funny because his own benjamin but like i feel like he
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he got a little he got more serious than he should have in that moment on that show not in general
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and that made it so that like whatever he was saying wasn't like the audience received the
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immediate audience didn't couldn't perceive it he was i could perceive it because i was already like
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going that way but those guys know and then i don't know i guess at that point rogan was like
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blacklisted him he's like this guy can't come back on don't we don't want him anywhere near anything
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and uh he had already been canceled from a bunch of other stuff yeah yeah okay so let's just get
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into the fact that he is king david like what like what other way would it be yeah what do you mean
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like let's what other better way if he is king david to get everybody off his track than to trash
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king david i mean i don't know i don't know the whole and i don't i don't know him like super good
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i saw him on tucker and i'm reading like you know three chapters into his book but i've read those
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chapters like slowly and taking it take a lot of thought about it produced a lot of extra thinking
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about a lot of other stuff dude like i've seen him in some snippets here and there i know some
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stories you've told me i think that's why like i i called you immediately i was like yo have you
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seen what he said about david and it's like some people like oh well he's comparing the god of the
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well the chat was saying mean stuff too the chat that loves him was well they were getting mad
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about it i was like all right you gotta understand number one you have to let somebody like this like
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If it's been this long that you've been following him and you've been laughing with him and you've
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been learning with him, you have to let somebody explore.
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And I think I saw a post where he said, I have a lot of new people following me now.
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And he just like, he went hard, dude, to offend.
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He's like, if you're going to get offended by this, don't be here, which is kind of what
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He said, you're going to have to eat my flesh and drink my blood.
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I'm not saying on Benjamin Jesus, stop everybody.
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and then black people started looting the plane
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and they were all like after black guy right you know and then i go the next thing i do after after
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i've amassed like 10 000 followers that i don't know clown the white guy oh it's white yeah it's
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white people time now i'm talking about how you guys have sex with your dogs your sisters are
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having sex with the family dog they lose it so that 10 000 gets right right down to seven i'm
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like good you guys could stay you know what i mean so immediately immediately is what i do
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that's kind of maybe like a safety net to make sure you don't let your crowd steer you you're
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like we're gonna get this up yeah but i'm saying oh benjamin's like we're gonna get this clear up
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front that's right i got a lot of people here if you don't like this leave now you're not exactly
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so maybe he's in that process and that's why this stuff is like extra offensive right now that's
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right maybe i don't even find it that offense i find i actually find something kind of funny
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even though i just i'm like some of them like i just disagree but i think it's funny
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i just i think there are differences and i maybe i'm fundamentally broken because yes most of the
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stuff i find we can agree on that i don't really find much offensive but i find a lot of things
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yeah yeah I don't know it's just a weird line to
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walk so let's just look at it and prove that he
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David that's what I'm saying he doesn't want everybody to figure
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I don't know I think I don't even I don't think he understands
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he doesn't want anybody to figure out so he's trashing
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i mean in a sense then you're trashing yourself but i think he sees a figure that is intensely
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uh interesting and he's focused on it and i don't know that and he's like doing things he's tying
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in like things of like uh so-called uh the modern jews yeah yeah i guess the biting the wieners
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thing like that's not a bible thing funny but i guess that's a modern jews thing i don't i don't
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know okay okay so that's why i didn't understand that i was like what's he talking about let's
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let's talk about do you do you want how do you want to do this you want to read from let's get
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into that when we get into that. Let's just go right through the story. Let's just start in 1
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Sam 16, chapter 16, verse 6. All right, here we go. And it came to pass when they were come that
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he looked on Eliab and said, surely the Lord's anointed is before him. Now the backdrop is this
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is Samuel has been sent to the house of Jesse to anoint one of Jesse's sons as king of Israel.
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Okay, that's the backdrop. Samuel shows up. He looks at Eliab. He says, oh, surely this is the
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But the Lord said unto Samuel, look not on his countenance or on the height of his stature,
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For man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.
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Then Jesse called Abinadab and made him pass before Samuel, and he said, neither had the
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Then Jesse made Shammah to pass by, and he said, neither had the Lord chosen him.
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Again, Jesse made seven of his sons to pass before Samuel.
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And Samuel said unto Jesse, the Lord has not chosen any of these.
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And Samuel said unto Jesse, is this all your kids?
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And he said, well, there remains yet the youngest.
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And Samuel said unto Jesse, send and fetch him.
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Now he was ruddy and with all of a beautiful countenance and goodly to look to.
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And the Lord said, arise, anoint him for this is he.
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Then Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the midst of his brethren.
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And the spirit of the Lord came upon David from that day forward.
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We're saying David doesn't even get invited, right?
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They think one of his brothers is going to get anointed.
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because he's a loner he's a loner he's a shepherd he's out there all alone he's almost like a and
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the bears in the chat will know what i'm talking about others may not he's almost like a pirate
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ninja with no crew can we stop with the ninja stuff the time travel is pushing it but the ninja
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stuff this is owen benjamin's own words he wanted to be a pirate he wanted to be a ninja he used to
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make nunchucks he used to make nunchucks dude and like come home and play with the nunchucks you
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haven't read the book i read it he wanted to be a pirate and he wanted to be a ninja and he was a
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loner but he knew he needed a crew well guess what david was the same thing so how do you know david
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wanted a crew because later he does get a crew just keep that in your back pocket keep in your
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back we're just going to go through this we're just doing a bible study maybe you'll enjoy it
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maybe not but you're going to see there's a lot of interesting details uh in comparisons between
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these two guys lives okay let's look at uh we'll just keep going in chapter 16 we'll go 14
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through 23. But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord
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troubled him. And Saul's servant said unto him, Behold, now an evil spirit from God troubles thee.
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Let our Lord now command thy servants which are before thee to seek out a man who is a cunning
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player on a harp, and it shall come to pass when the evil spirit from God is upon thee that he
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shall play with his hand, and you shall be well. And Saul said unto his servants, Provide me now
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a man that can play well and bring him to me now remember saul's going to be representative of the
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system right like like the world system hollywood the entertainment industry whatever you want to
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call it at this point yeah yes saul is the system the whole way through saul represents the system
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but not not initially though initially wasn't he just he's just a shepherd right right no this is
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where our story picks up though our story picks up he's already king he represents the king and
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the authority of that entirety of the system, and the system says, yeah, hey, bring us the guy that
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plays the harp, and as you know, well, hold on, let's just, let's just read the resume. Saul said
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to his servants, provide me now a man that can play well and bring him to me. Then answered one
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of the servants and said, behold, I have seen a son of Jesse, the Bethlehemite, that is cunning
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and playing, and a mighty valiant man, and a man of war, and prudent in matters, and a comely
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person and the Lord is with him. Wherefore Saul sent messengers unto Jesse and said, send me David
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thy son, which is with the sheep. Remember he's a loner. He's a loner. And Jesse took an ass laden
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with bread and a bottle of wine and a kid and sent them by David and to Saul. And David came to Saul
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and stood before him and he loved him greatly and he became his armor bearer. So it wasn't the main
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guy, right? But he was more of a guy in the background. The system said, Hey, come, come on
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in. Come on in, Owen Benjamin. Yeah, you could be the writer. You're not really the main guy,
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but you're kind of in the background. You're an armor bearer, but you're welcome in our system.
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Come on. And Saul said to Jesse saying, let David, I pray thee, stand before me for he has found
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favor in my sight. And it came to pass when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul that David took
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a harp and played with his hand. So Saul was refreshed and was well in the evil spirit departed
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from him. So what are we saying? Well, one, he's like a true Renaissance man, right? He's got,
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he's like he's a soldier he's a warrior but he also plays the harp which some would argue
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is the most feminine instrument outside of the piano well it's the same i don't hold on i'll
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pull up a picture of a harp but it a harp is a piano um laid out oh they're actually fairly cheap
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and i assume the one that david was playing is a much smaller harp but like here you go you check
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this out so so he writes poetry he plays a harp this is what a harp looks like and if you lay it
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very feminine i think it's kind of dope i do too i would love to see somebody play one yeah if you
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lay this down and you sit at the front of it and attach it to ivory keys or attach hammers basically
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a piano it's no it's exactly a piano okay so he so he's tending the sheep probably making cheese
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the sheep he's a loner the system will take him in the system will take him in
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uh along as long as he's playing the harp for the system they'll keep him around
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till they no longer need him let's just keep reading so now we're in chapter 17 verses 38 and 40
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this is when uh this is when he goes up against goliath right he takes on the giant
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which what more masterful thing for owen benjamin to do to get people off the trail
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that he's king david than to say like he's a giant this way nobody's on nobody's on to him
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right well he is a giant what are you gonna see him yeah but king david might have been a lot
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bigger than we think dude and maybe the giant was a lot bigger than we think yeah and saul armed
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david with his armor and he put a helmet of brass upon his head also he armed him with a coat of
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mail that's interesting right because uh if he was his armor bearer right right like that's almost
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like an anointing like a switching of of there but what what he does next is also really interesting
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yeah he says i can't use what's traditionally used keep reading and saul armed david with his
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armor and he put a helmet of brass on his head also he armed him with a coat of mail and david
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girded his sword upon his armor and he assayed to go he like he went a step or two and was like nah
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i'm not doing this he has said to go for he had not proved it and david said unto saul i cannot
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go with these for i have not proved them and david put them off him and he took his staff in his hand
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and chose him five five smooth stones out of the brook and put them in a shepherd's bag which he had
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even in a script and his sling was in his hand and he drew near to the philistine right we all
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know the story he runs at the philistine he kills him i'm simply saying that this is just like
00:46:24.380
owen benjamin going into hollywood and doing things completely different than what was
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traditionally done at that time he he's kind of saying no i got my own style so i'll say no no
00:46:34.040
no this is what the industry does and he's doing things like punked yeah yeah that was way outside
00:46:39.520
the norm at that time dude yeah yeah like he comes into the system the system says here use
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what we use he says no i kind of got my own thing kind of got my own thing it's funny too one of the
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one of his oldest jokes uh the starbucks one no no that's a great one dude where he puts penis on
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the cup they say what's your name when he uh he does the lgbt joke the l's do this the b's do that
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the g's do this but the t's you know like they're doing and he makes that joke and like like it
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goes well but it doesn't get attention and then almost word for word years later on netflix somebody
00:47:14.320
bites it you know bites it who dave chappelle but he gave him props for it he didn't no no no
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you don't have to do that owen benjamin is dead he's dead to that that world okay now but you're
00:47:28.400
jumping the story dude i'm just saying you don't have the story we just we have to watch these
00:47:32.140
parallels though their stories are running parallel this is this is why i this was like
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yeah we have to do this because it's interesting i hope owen doesn't find it offensive it's just
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he's not going to find it offensive it is it's a bit offensive it's like if somebody took your
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whole life and they just put it up on like under a microscope and they're like let's study this
00:47:48.980
thing and see what no no no he's gonna like it he's gonna like he's gonna be like wow this dude's
00:47:53.720
like took a look at my life and uh we'll see if he doesn't like it i'm sure he's gonna be like
00:47:57.760
wow there is some interesting similarities with king david because sometimes you read a bible
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passage and you really don't like a guy and come to find out it's like oh yeah because he's like
00:48:07.120
me i have some of these qualities that happens to me anyway that was a me anyway yeah okay watch
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this so now we're in uh we're moving into the next stage of the journey uh so we're in 1757
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through 184 you got that picture yeah i do okay hold on where we at 57 and as david returned from
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the slaughter of the philistines that's after he killed the giant and then uh he kills the giant
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and then the philistines run it's a it's a great uh he doesn't just win for himself
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owen benjamin spreads a victory for everybody right and as david returned from the slaughter
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of the philistines abner took him and brought him before saul well it's funny right so like
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i guess yeah at this point he does win for everybody but for the system now as of right
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now he's still in the system the system still loves him but within the system now there's
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there is division there because people now are looking at at david right not yet not yet he's a
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nobody right now he's a nobody not after he kills him well we're getting to that brought him and
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brought him before saul with the head of the philistine in his hand so here comes this young
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guy david he shows up to the system he's got the head of the philistine in his hand dude he's just
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he's just holding his head the system is like okay damn what do we do with this guy this guy's on
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another level but he's very valuable to us like this guy like most people just roll up with a
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giant head in their in their hand and go hey what's up king what's up what do you want to do here
00:49:43.500
they're like we don't know what to do with this guy but we like him on our team right now and
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saul said to him whose son are you young man and david answered i am the son of thy servant jesse
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the bethlemite and it came to pass when he had made an end of speaking unto saul that the soul
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of jonathan was knit with the soul of david and jonathan loved him as his own soul now all of a
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sudden there's this bond between jonathan and david right that's that's crazy it's crazy how
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bonded they are and it almost doesn't make sense and some people are offended by it that they could
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be so tight especially this guy jonathan is from the system so watch this and saul took him that
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day and would let him go no more home to his father's house then jonathan and david made a
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covenant because he loved him as his own soul and jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was
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upon him and gave it to david and his garments even to his sword and to his bow and to his girdle
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now what could this be representative of in owen benjamin's life i don't know and this is this is
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where we have another similarity it's funny too because like some of these passages this is like
00:50:44.980
is david doing gay stuff with jonathan where he says like he loved him as like a woman no no
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sometimes people make a bond that's on another level right so what does this mean so what would
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this bond be in owing benjamin's life imagine who is the guy he makes it he makes a covenant
00:51:00.760
with david that will affect him for the rest of his life right just like the man in your life
00:51:07.500
who convinced you to be a father think about this think about this for a minute vince vaughn do we
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have the picture vince vaughn is a man from within the system that's made this unbreakable bond
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which is the greatest thing in Owen Benjamin's life now.
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He looks very uncomfortable that you're doing this.
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This is the strongest bond that could have been made.
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jonathan who's from the system doesn't turn on him he in fact makes a covenant with david that
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will affect him for the rest of his life just like the man in your life who convinced you to be a
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to be a father jonathan is vince vaughn okay i'm telling you dude i'm telling the parallels are
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are out of control here this is deep conspiracy okay now this now the system loves him
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that you're not going to ask me about when i met vince vaughn okay what what happened
00:52:21.340
because i i can see we went to italy together you did not go to italy together with vince
00:52:25.940
one i can see very clearly here that vince vaughn doesn't know you and you've taken a picture of
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yourself as he's walking by you go babe i think that's vince vaughn let's take a selfie and then
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no no no i didn't think it was i walked up to him somebody we were on the trip with was like
00:52:41.420
Matt Vince Vaughn's over there he's another dude that's huge this guy's tall right yeah we were in
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the Amalfi Coast dude and yeah he's in like basketball clothes and like long socks pulled
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all the way up and he looked kind of dorky but I always loved this dude man funny and uh so I
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walked up to him I said bro and I'm and I mean this dude I which is so great which is this other
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weird thing that Owen Benjamin was like this buddy with this guy because I was like bro best actor
00:53:05.820
ever shook shook his hand goes thanks pal I said Wedding Crashers best movie ever which like that
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was a long time ago that i did i love that no wedding crashers is like the classic movie dude
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it's just the funnest especially vince vaughn's acting in that movie the one-liners and how quick
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and witty they are it's just like i was like i like this guy but is but is that right was he
00:53:25.100
writing for him at that time like a lot of those one-liners and like the craziest stuff oh probably
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maybe on benjamin's involved it's probably like oh five around that time i don't know but i like
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that kind of like witty funny because i used to not on purpose but on drugs like walk into
00:53:40.340
situations where me and jess were supposed to be acting like grown-ups around that time
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and i would try to do like an icebreaker and i would just end up saying the craziest stuff i get
00:53:48.740
like nervous to be around normal people and we were always trying to act like we were like normal
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grown-ups and just so i'd walk in and try to just break the ice and just say the crazy like i would
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ramble on some crazy thing i was like it's kind of like what vince vaughn does in some of these movies
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and i kind of liked him like that so anyway we were tight so i told him that and then we walked
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away i didn't know enough at the time to just say hey can i get a picture with you like i didn't
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decide to say that the worst thing was awesome i was like sweetie he's right behind us let's do
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a selfie and get him in the picture and you can see him he's like looking at us like he knows
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what we're doing did he say anything to you after you did it no no he just was like he's like
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fucking guy yeah but yeah he was but initially there was like a genuine smile away i was like
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bro best actor ever like he knew i wasn't just gassing him up like he knew i meant it yeah and
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he was like thanks pal and like we did the fist bump i'm pretty sure it was a fist bump all right
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so the system let's get back to this so just just stay with that vince vaughn is okay i didn't
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expect this so let's all right let's let's roll with it vince vaughn is owens jonathan okay what
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david is to jonathan owen benjamin is to vince vaughn you're saying vince vaughn has to die that's
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not cool no no no no there's a lot of parallels here dude all right a lot of parallels all right
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so the system loves him because they have a common enemy in the giant and the philistines and they
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welcome them in with open arms so who's that enemy it's the american people it's the crowd
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it's the people to come to the shows come to the movies come to the comedy place you know all the
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things watch the tv show all the stuff right as long as on benjamin was in cahoots with the system
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for that yeah they welcomed him in he was welcome with open arms once the system no longer needs
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him it discards him so why does saul who represents the system turn on david because
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slowly but surely that system represented by king saul begins to lose its mind let's look at uh 18
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5 and david went out where so ever did it ever so like i let's also clarify from the very beginning
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it has already lost its mind since the meeting but it this progresses yes i mean saul always
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He was a murderer from the beginning. It takes
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There's a certain time period that comes along where the system starts
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wheresoever Saul sent him and behaved himself wisely.
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of ob and saul sent him over the men of war and he was accepted in the sight of all the people and
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also in the sight of saul's servants so even though he's young in the game everybody's looking
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at him and they like him even even in that system they're like something about this guy and it came
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to pass as they came when david was returned from the slaughter of the philistine that the women
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came out of all the cities of israel singing and dancing to meet king saul with taverns with joy
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and with instruments of music and the women answered one another as they played and said
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Saul has slain his thousands but David is ten thousands right they like him yeah yeah they
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like him and Saul like punked his big hits Vince Vaughn big hits the system likes him the people
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the crowd likes him Saul was very wroth and the saying displeased him now the system starts to
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get a little jealous he said they have ascribed unto David ten thousand to me they have ascribed
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but thousands and what can he have more but the kingdom and Saul eyed David from that day forward
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Now, I don't know enough about Owen's story to say when this happened, but this definitely happened.
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I don't know how this came about, but this came about where the system started to eye him and was ready to get rid of him.
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And it came to pass on the morrow that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul.
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came to pass on the morrow that the evil spirit from god came upon saul and he prophesied in the
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midst of the house and david played with his hand as at other times and there was a javelin in saul's
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hand so david's still there playing the harp for saul so that he's soothed he's soothing the system
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if you will for a time and saul cast the javelin for he said i'll smite david even to the wall with
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it and david avoided out of his presence twice and so he threw two huh this happened two different
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times, man. They're just chilling in the house, but David's witty. Owen Benjamin, you ain't going
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to get him like that, dude. Boom, he's quick. They go for him. He's out of that. You can't get him.
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You can't get him. He's got a destiny, if you will. And Saul was afraid of David because the
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Lord was with him. I'm not even going to unpack that. I'm just going to say that, like, Owen
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Benjamin is not in the place where he's at today unless God has guided this whole thing. I'll just
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say that. And was departed from Saul. Therefore Saul removed him from him and made him his captain
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over a thousand, and he went out and came in before the people. And David behaved himself
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wisely in all his ways, and the Lord was with him. Wherefore, when Saul saw that he behaved himself
00:58:56.520
wisely, he was afraid of him. Keep saying this, right? But all Israel and Judah love David. The
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crowd loves David. The system is starting to turn on him, because he went out and came in before
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them. And Saul said to David, Behold, my older daughter, Merab, her will I give you to wife.
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Only be valiant for me and fight the Lord's battles. For Saul said, Let not my hand be upon
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him, but let the hand of the Philistines be upon him. So now he's butt kissing David, but he's
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really hoping he dies. He's going to set him up. Yes. And David said to Saul, who am I and what is
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my life for my father's family in Israel that I should be son-in-law to the king? But it came to
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pass at the time when Merib, Saul's daughter, should have been given to David that she was
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given unto Adriel, the Maholothite, to wife. And Michal, Saul's daughter, loved David, and they
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told Saul and the thing pleased him. So now the system says, let's get some trickery in here.
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Let's offer him one of our females. I don't know. I'm just guessing there's got to be something
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like that that happened with Owen during that time period. He's in Hollywood. He's doing his
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thing. The system says, let's offer him one of our females. We'll get him. We'll trick him.
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And Saul said, I will give him her that she may be a snare to him. That was his real motive,
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not to bless him, but to be a snare to him, and that the hand of the Philistines may be against
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him. Wherefore Saul said to David, you shall this day be my son-in-law in the one of the two. And
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Saul commanded his servants, saying, commune with David secretly, and say, behold, the king has
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delight in you, and all his servants love you. Now therefore be the king's son-in-law. Now we're
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getting into this foreskin story. Sorry if that was a little slow, but we're getting into the
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foreskin story and saul's servants spake those words in the ears of david and david said seem
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it to you a light thing that i'd be a king's son-in-law seeing that i'm just a poor man
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and lightly esteemed i don't have the money for the dowry i would have to pay you to to have your
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daughter and and the servants of saul told him saying on this manner spake david and saul said
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But thus shall you say to David, the king desires not any dowry, but a hundred foreskins of the Philistines to be avenged of the king's enemies.
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But Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines.
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The system's trying to get him killed by the Philistines.
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Let one of their females be a snare to him.
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And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king's son-in-law.
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well i mean i guess david had to do this to play this play this whole thing out but uh no they were
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at war this was this was a war what i mean is that like is it a mistake to uh did david do this
01:02:17.060
because he still wanted to be in the system did he understand this i guess he maybe he understood
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that he had to take the system you always come with something like that's a good question yeah
01:02:29.060
because he's anointed to be king but i don't know right right so here's it here's maybe is he
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wondering what's the path like if he becomes if the king is my father-in-law then maybe potentially
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that's my path i know i've been anointed king by samuel maybe this is the way it goes that's the
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path but on the other hand like owen benjamin path is like no no he's that he's actually the
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You see? You're jumping the gun. This is a separate
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He doesn't just start off like that. You're being
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nasty. Let's get back to that, though. Keep reading.
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I don't think it pertains, but, like, I was like,
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woman in debates like only fans people in debates but can't open a pickle jar he's a guy that so
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you're saying when owen benjamin clowns that guy he scalps him he took his scalp okay so he's taking
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foreskins too many scalps okay many foreskins i don't know if he's taking the foreskins but he's
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taking the top of their heads well i guess it's the same thing i don't know and saul saw and knew
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that the lord was with david so the system knows okay this guy's got something we don't and that
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Michal, Saul's daughter, loved him, and Saul was yet the more afraid of David, and Saul became
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David's enemy continually. So this enemy vibe starts to increase now. Then the princes of the
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Philistines went forth, and it came to pass after they went forth that David behaved himself more
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wisely. Remember, that just keeps coming up. Then all the servants of Saul, so that his name was
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much set by. And Saul spoke to Jonathan, his son, and to all his servants that they should kill
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david so now it's not just the philistines it's not just his dog one of their females for a snare
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now he's even trying to get vince vaughn so who knows if there was a time where the system came
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to vince vaughn and said hey man you got to get on out of here right and yeah but watch what vince
01:04:32.180
vaughn does well that's what i oh to him i don't know but like we know that that's happened really
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well that's exactly what this is saying but not like again i don't know from vince vaughn no but
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like from other people oh okay where they've been told yeah they've been told well that's what this
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system's doing that i'll be by joe rogan i'll be honest again i don't want to say these names but
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like yeah it seems like that's what happened with rogan and then he was persona non grata to
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everybody okay everybody okay this is what i'm saying this is a he is king david owen benjamin
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is king david he's just trying to get us off the trail by like mocking king david right now
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it's okay we love him it's cool like his secret's safe with us and our you know listeners it's not
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a big crowd it's not a lot of people but we know we know but jonathan saul's son delighted much in
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david and jonathan told david saying saul my father seeks to kill thee now therefore i pray
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thee take heed to thyself until the morning and abide in a secret place and hide thyself
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so he's got homies on the inside they want him dead
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but he's got homies on the inside right let's let's jump to 19 18 through 24
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so david fled and escaped and came to samuel to ramah and told him all that saul had done to him
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mm-hmm and he and Samuel went and dwelt in Naoth and it was told Saul saying behold David is at
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Naoth in Ramah okay so not only is the system trying to kill him from the inside but now he's
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left the system okay and Saul sent messengers to take David so it's so he's not even in the system
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but they send messengers to pull his Airbnb they send messengers to pull his PayPal he's he's
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already left he's already left the system saul sent messengers to take david and when they saw
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the company of the prophets prophesying and samuel standing as appointed over them the spirit of god
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was upon the messengers of saul and they also prophesied and when it was told saul he sent
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other messengers and they prophesied likewise and saul sent messengers again the third time
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and they prophesied also you want to know something funny how like how that starts off um
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i guess like his like sort of like awakening into the what the system is i mean i mean i think you
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always see it but you you don't accurately diagnose it but his his actual awakening was
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probably on uh the episode you know joey diaz is yeah hey cocksucker he was in spider-man he used
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to have funny jokes a long time ago he's hilarious he was doing coke and had really funny coke jokes
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back in the day i still think he's funny i think he's like i don't know him anymore but i knew him
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a long time ago yeah joey diaz he was on his podcast and i think joey gave him a like an
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edible but he gave him something called the star of death and uh it was like a really high and it
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was i think it was weed but when it's like that high milligram it behaves like a psychedelic yeah
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if you eat a big like my boy worm ate a banana nut loaf in like 97 because we because we had
01:07:39.220
proposition 215 in cali in 97 so you could get a medical marijuana card way back then yeah so
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worm you were supposed to eat a you know a slice of the banana nut bread he ate the whole loaf and
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he was tripping like acid or mushrooms that's what it was like so yeah uh but i it's weird
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because i gave it to owen benjamin or gave it to joe rogan no he gave it to owen benjamin
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joey diaz did yeah yeah so owen takes it and that's what people say they're like oh he took
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he took the pill and he lost his mind and that's why he like if i'm telling you if you watch rogan
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show i need to know more own story when you watch rogan show sometimes he'll talk about owen and
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when he talks about him it's like a funeral he's like yeah man he took one edible with joey diaz
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and poor guy lost his mind he ended up moving to idaho and becoming a dad what like that's their
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take on it that's their take their take is like like man it was bad because he became a dad and
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well there is a part there is there is a part of that story like right after that like he bugs out
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and he like leaves the interview because he's like he said he's looking at joey diaz i wouldn't stick
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around if i was super high either no listen to this dude joey diaz talking to him and he's like
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cocksucker what's wrong with you like doing his joey ds thing and he goes he says his face like
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melted off and he was like the face of a demon and he like got up and left and he's now he's like
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you know imagine you're on an edible and i think it's it's more like you're being dosed as well
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because you don't if you're not expecting to go on a trip like that that's fucked up like if you
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get you get hit with the drug that is way stronger than what you intended yeah um even if you know
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what you're walking into sometimes it's just too much dude yeah yeah and if you don't that could
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so like for a while there he's i've been in that situation before on acid where i'm in like a
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basketball game at the high school and i'm just like i got i got to get out of here i can't look
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at another teacher or the principal or try to like act like i'm not super high i got to get out of
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here yeah i can see that imagine if you and then there's like cameras on you and microphones yeah
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you got to get out of dodge dude i could just imagine though like because i've taken edibles
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before and you take an edible and if it's the right dosage you feel nice my buddy simmy from
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india said that's how they eat it in india like some dudes are just having a bag on their hip and
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they mix it with sugar and they'll just kind of eat weed yeah and you see yeah it's just chill
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it could be but if it's like super high dosage yeah mushrooms it changes your life worm went
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to every restaurant in that shopping center next to high school and threw up at each one there was
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a pizza spot he ate so much he threw up there was a taco bell he ate so much and threw up
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there was a hot dog spot he ate so much and threw up and i think it was a carl jr he ate so much and
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threw up that's insane yeah so yeah but he was tripping but there's there's a point in this
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story where you know owen owen's got to go away and he's going through the desert for a while
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because your life has just been changed radically sure and it was changed with the drug in a sense
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and now like all the pieces are on the floor you got to pick them up and figure out what's what
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it's a crazy story yeah and it's just funny to see the dynamic of people go man poor guy
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and then you actually look at what he's doing and you're like
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him also and he went on and prophesied until he came to naoth and ramah you know what's crazy too
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i forgot put this in your pocket this dude's so interesting he there's also this like stint in his
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life maybe two three years ago i don't even remember you remember when kanye west was like
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kind of like going crazy with the whole jew thing and he's doing his thing if you don't watch this
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stuff you know kanye west is yeah yeah yeah okay good we could start that i saw a thing pop up that
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he walked out of tim cast or something like he was on tim cast and what it was a new thing i mean
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i was on tim cast right after that like less than a week after he was on which is interesting you
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went on with that guy not with not with no with the tim guy yeah i was on with that i should have
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walked out yo dude if you imagine you on a show like that do you like what did you try to act
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like a normal politics guy that's a good yeah it was it's actually a really interesting episode
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because i didn't say anything and i almost fell asleep but at that point uh tim is dealing with
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the daily wire uh steven crowder you know who that is there's a deal made with the daily wire
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and steven crowder and they were at odds and i think it has something to do with israel and money
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and tim was extremely stressed out man it always does no no i'm i'm being very serious when i say
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a man under levels of stress that you can't understand that's what i'm dealing with when
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i was looking at tim that day and that was unusual for his show who wants that like who like who want
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who wants like so much money or fame or things from the system that you're just in exhaustion
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it was evident to me that he was like beholden to something and the deal between ben shapiro's
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show and steven crowder's show it was it was tanking and he had something to do with it and
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he was just losing it and i couldn't care less because i don't care about what jews do in their
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affairs with money anyway point is do you understand how big kanye west is yes okay
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probably one of the biggest no i remember kanye when he came out when he was like
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when he got signed to rockefeller like yeah i know kanye but i don't know the later stuff i guess he
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hooked up with one of the cardashians yeah this is after that too this is after the divorce this
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is when he's coming back but he's never lost his uh popularity he's always like he was really
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intriguing artist like like talented is one of my favorite he's one of my favorite really i can see
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that yeah and one of my favorite people for the same it's just funny that like kanye pops up
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and he actually gets uh owen benjamin's number and he basically has owen advising him on like
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joke writing and different topics and shit like that but it's like it's like a counsel to the
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king it's a very strange thing again shades of david in a way where and i'm not saying that
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kanye is saul but like recruiting this person to get input from from owen bet like truthful input
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because he knows he's going to get watch what happens to saul when he also same same case for
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shane cashman shane cashman had that same weird relationship with kanye west which again this
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makes no sense really yeah just like he invited him to his la studio and they're like he's like
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showing him the songs that he's making he's asking him for advice about this and that what do you
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think about this i'm like just straight and then thanks man and that's like you know maybe call him
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here and there but like weird overlaps of these type of people and when you meet them in real life
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you're like that dude's special i don't know why i don't know what's going on with that guy but it
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makes sense why kanye would pick them out of this big internet thing and go you talking to you now
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yeah you know but anyway that's a no i'm three chapters in i'm like there's something here
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there's something here with this dude this is like uh this is like a dude on another level
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it's like you're very clearly like you're reading what he's writing you're saying i don't fully know
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what i'm going to make of this but this is we're definitely dealing with a man on another level
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right right right not even just like oh a cool podcaster or oh a cool guy in the news or whatever
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but like this is a dude whose brain's operating on a on a higher level so there's something to
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see here that's all i'm saying but watch what happens saul sends messengers to take him down
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right he said they take his paypal they take his uh airbnb they take everything they camera then
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the system actually comes for himself. Saul comes himself. Uh, so Saul went there to Naoth and Ramah
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and the spirit of God was upon him also. And he went on and prophesied until he came to Naoth and
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Ramah. So when the spirit of God comes on you, it's not always for like, for your good, watch
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what happens now. And he stripped off his clothes also and prophesied before Samuel in like manner
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and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, is Saul also among
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the prophets what does what happens if you start to engage with own benjamin he strips you naked
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he strips you naked dude yeah the system came at him people come at him just read the book
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just read the book dude he strips things naked and bare people know that so this guy uh clint
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one of the reasons that he blocked me he blocked me he even blocked my phone number why because
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owen was hip to him owen was always hip to him but when it came uh time for the bohemian grove
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i i i felt like it was you know it was fair to like i wasn't like going and trying to trash the
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guy but i felt like it's fair to tell uh the main performers everyone you see on this uh and people
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that were involved i'm like hey listen these guys are not involved with this anymore and then of
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course they go well what the fuck happened and then i tell i'm not gonna lie so i tell the story
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and i tell him well this is what happened from my perspective and owen went he started to like
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scratch again at clint and clint like freaked out blocked me blocked everybody and just moved away
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because you don't want to get stripped naked and you know that that's what he's gonna hide with
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this dude you look at this dude you're like if you have anything to hide with this guy don't go
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in his presence like don't let him don't be on his radar it's something i think about too like
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as i like because it's been a couple years now that i've been friends with them and like i
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you know make contact with them and i'm like eventually and i told him to i told him um
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when we were talking about the tucker thing i was like he's like i don't know if i should do it
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and i was like you should do it like don't lose your soul doing this but like this is an opportunity
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to talk i think you should do that and the conversation got to a place where i was like
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hey listen i expect you to strip strip me naked if you see me doing some dumb shit and i'm like
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i'm not gonna be mad about it sure that's a good friend right yeah if they say hey this is what's
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up and the same for him you know you know the raven was mad at me for looking at the chat not
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paying attention he exposed it he said it that's a good friend i miss him i miss him okay this next
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part dude i didn't even this wasn't even part of it dude because i i had no clue about the uh
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went kind of went a little crazy with the edible no clue well there's a period of time where yeah
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you got to go crazy okay okay let's read it yeah because you have to figure it out okay let's read
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it now you mean you didn't talk about this at all before the show i didn't talk about a lot of this
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i didn't know well yeah actually any of it but i didn't know any of that story that he ate the
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edible i don't know anything about that you ready for this part now okay just remember owen benjamin
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is king david and david arose and fled that day for fear of saul and went to ashish the king of
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gath and the servants of ashish said unto him isn't this david the king of the land did they
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not sing one to another of him in dances saying saul had slain his thousands what are we at one
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samuel 21 21 21 yeah 10 through 14 gotcha go ahead 10 through 15 sorry isn't this david did
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they not sing one to another of him in dances saying saul has slain his thousands and david
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is 10 thousands and david laid up these words in his heart and was so afraid of ashish the king of
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gath and he changed his behavior before them and feigned himself mad in their hands and scrabbled
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on the doors of the gate and let his spittle fall down upon his beard in a sense that's how he did
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get out of that's how he got out of hollywood you're not surprising me i just didn't know that
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yet i'm i'm saying owen benjamin is king david so i'm not surprised by that at all i just didn't
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know that yet so there's probably a lot more in this story that ties perfectly with them i just
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don't know his story that good yet i know i know a little bit of it he pretends he so he goes
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through this period of acting like a madman he's like dribbling an invisible basketball bro he's
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like over in the corner playing checkers with himself and he's like scrabbling on the door
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like this and he's letting the drool come down his beard then said ashish unto his servants
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lo you see the man's a madman wherefore then have you brought him to me have i need of madmen that
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you have brought this fellow to play the madman in my presence shall this fellow come into my house
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so he's got this ability to respond in very crazy situations and he's not afraid to do things that
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are like way outside the box way outside the box so owen benjamin remember this he had to move
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around a little bit once he got kicked out of the system there was something else i was reading
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where like he lived maybe it was on tucker where he like he lived maybe where his wife was from
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or maybe he lived where he was from originally New York so yeah he had to move around a little
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bit King David's doing the same thing dude he didn't find his place right away he had he got
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kicked out of the system he had to leave Israel the system wants him dead the system's already
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taken his Airbnb the system's already taken his PayPal like he's got he's got a maneuver he's got
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a maneuver he doesn't find his spot immediately right that that's what this is and he goes through
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a time period where he acts like a madman it's all here Owen Benjamin had to move around a little
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bit once he got kicked out of the system he had to find his place or get him where you fit in as
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too short would say okay let's keep going okay we're almost done almost done we're going into
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one samuel 22 or one's done there's a lot more i mean well i don't know i don't know enough
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elman benjamin's story to say all this stuff how it all can but this stuff the little bit that i
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know about him i'm like he's king david it's the same story okay 22 verse 1 i really would like
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I'd like his uh his input back on this episode because he's gonna say we're idiots well no I
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mean if I've gotten if I've gotten something wrong or if we're missing something or if we're like
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maybe maybe that didn't really happen like that it's a little more like this you know am I
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exaggerating something I don't know but I want to know because it is kind of like it is a little
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weird what even youth you're so this isn't just keep reading wait so you're looking at this you're
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saying like wow these are these are very intriguing parallels I'm trying to figure out and he's
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trashing king david wow there's all these very similar parallels all right with like with most
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bible characters you can read them and especially in their flaws you can find a lot of yourself
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in most bible characters even in in jesus they're not his flaws but obviously like some of the
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things he does he goes oh yeah i did that i don't know why so far are you seeing any flaws in david
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yeah where flaws in david so far in the as far as we've read in the story up to this story no no
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like okay they come they come a little bit later okay keep that in your back pocket okay i'm just
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saying i don't know if i'm being fair am i attributing something that is like can i put
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the story of david over most people's lives and they never no this closely that's what i'm saying
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like it's pretty yeah it's a lot it's a lot no chat what do you what do you think i'm just being
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fair no there's nobody that parallels king david like okay but we're being fair chat are we reaching
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yeah where's the chat they're over here i don't know is this interesting are we reaching do you
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think that this is like i don't know because i could also understand how this could be
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not not just offensive but it could be annoying to somebody what do you mean i don't if it's
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coming from the wrong person if somebody came to me when i don't want to hear some shit like this
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oh it is a complete match okay well atma said i i trust atma uh all right well let's keep going
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let's keep going it's just interesting yeah yeah atma knows what's up right like on a lot of stuff
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yeah atma's emma has good uh good insight to a lot of that shouldn't by own their critique i'm not
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he's not my buddy like that dude i'm like he'd probably just be like you're an idiot
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you probably have a cool farm but you're an idiot probably probably this is good this is
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fascinating i don't think i'll be annoyed uh a mild mild reach okay okay that's fair yeah you
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i mean you call you call uh vince vaughn his jonathan i got it i got you that's what that's
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a little i don't know i don't know anything about vince vaughn so i can't okay is it okay if some
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of this is a little bit comedy too or no this has to just be super serious it's a little bit of both
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i think we stepped i feel like this is a little bit of owin benjamin style comedy where he's like
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doing a comedy like when he's talking about the raccoon and the minx is that what he says like a
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minx is the cat yeah he's saying it like so serious but trying not to laugh like he's saying
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it like it's so serious yeah my duck gary was found in the pool with an erection he's saying
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it like it's so serious but of course there's an element of we're joking here we're joking but then
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part of it i'm like fuck man well okay but yeah it just like i'm saying this is owen benjamin's
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style comedy isn't it i wouldn't even say it's comedy i'd just say like yeah it's just well i
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don't know right let's keep going this is where it gets good dude we haven't even really got there
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David, therefore departed then. Okay. He's trying to find his way. He's trying to find his place.
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He's trying to figure out where does he fit in? He goes to the first place. Then he has to act
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like a madman for a little bit. Okay. That's not the spot. Let me go to the next spot. Let me find
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my path there. David, therefore departed there and escaped to the cave, Adulam. And when his
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brethren and all his father's house heard it, they went down there to him and everyone that
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was in distress and everyone that was in debt and everyone that was discontented gathered
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themselves under Owen Benjamin, and he became a captain over them.
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He goes out into the country, lives in seclusion in Idaho, and then a band of misfits, rejects,
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rebels and outcasts from the system gather to him.
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are you serious that and then ultimately he guides this band of outcasts and rebels
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that's this is a part of the story where that's a direct overlap not not many other people do that
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there's nobody there's nobody that lines up with this story like on benjamin dude there's nobody
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right these people gather to him and ultimately they take on the system we're not we're not going
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to keep reading any more of the story but i'm saying that's what happens in the story
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is ultimately this band this real this band of real at like what's the main thing i say about
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like why i love what we do way better than like a regular church bible study because these are
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the realest people dude the people that are like in this uh community are the realest people yeah
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but they're offensive oh but they're mocking the bible i'm okay with that dude i'm okay with just
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let's all pump the brakes for a minute let's pump the brakes dude we weren't all here we're all
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still growing we're all still finding our way he mocks the godhead it's that's incredibly
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complicated topic he's a comedian pump does just chill out for a minute let's chill out for a
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minute let him do his thing this story lines up incredibly perfect he's guiding this people he
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ends up with like the mighty man you ever read the stories of the mighty he ends up with straight
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badasses from society that the system never knew was badasses dude they didn't know they didn't
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know, they flock to David. He becomes a captain or a guide or a leader over them. And those people
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ultimately go take over the system. That's all I'm saying this story is. Now, where we are in
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Owen Benjamin's story, I don't know. I don't know. All of the stories that he's pulling up now
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to kind of mock David, there's stuff that happens later after David sins with Bathsheba.
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That's where he brings this curse on. And that's where things get really bad for him. That's where
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things get really bad for him oh and benjamin's not that far in the story yet right i think this
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is where he's at that's why i said we're not even going to read anymore i think this is where oh
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benjamin's at in the story yeah and so the question is like if like let's say david's story
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king david's story is this long right where's the camera king david's story is this long
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right oh and benjamin's only this far in the story though he's only this far in the story
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you see what i'm saying this is where he's at right now it all parallels david it all parallels
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david let's just see where this thing goes from here with owen benjamin what do you think about
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man because it's it's interesting because people are people are just we're storytellers
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but we live we live through uh archetypes i think this is like a jordan peterson point
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but i'm sure owen has touched on it as well and we repeat them maybe subconsciously unknowingly
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these archetypes so it's not the first time that he's probably heard heard the story of david it's
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it's a popular story people know that they don't most of them don't know the whole story they know
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bits and pieces yeah maybe not close enough to like really put it together and look back and
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reflect and who knows like how would you even reflect on this you're living your life so it's
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like why would you look it's a it's a weird thing sure do you think it's possible do you think that
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you play out the whole story because this is the story of men no i think god gives you and makes
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you aware that you're doing it and you be aware now. Is that what the story's for? To see where
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you're at and then go, oh, no, no, we'll go the other direction here. Yeah, 100%. That's what it
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says. Isn't that what 1 Corinthians 10 says? All these stories were given to us as examples
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so that we would learn by them. So you look at a man's life, you say, okay, I see these
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similarities in my life. Somehow we do latch on. And maybe that's what it means that your name has
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to be written in the book of life like you have to find yourself in this story dude for whatever
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reason i looked at abraham when i was 19 when i was like reading a bible was still doing a lot
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of drugs and stuff and he left he left where he was from and i became very jealous of that like
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he left where he was from god said get away from your kinfolk get away from your family your
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friends get away from everything yeah and i remember thinking like damn i would love to do
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that i would love to not be who i am right now i would love to like not go to a party and be
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expected to say like a six foot long toke or do like a two minute keg stand or just be drunk all
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the time and act like an idiot i would make what what if like i could be whoever i want to be and
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not be like who this system has told me i am and i saw abraham leave like that and i was jealous
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and i was like i love that and then one time i was taking a piss in lake tahoe on the side of
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the road on ecstasy and like drinking the whole way up there to tahoe and i was just taking a piss
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and the stars were like so close it like everything was so close and just right in my face
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and I was just like, I just heard this voice say, you got to leave here. You got to leave.
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Not an audible voice. I'm just saying overwhelming in my spirit. This voice was like,
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you got to leave here. Right. And so I connected to that story of Abraham and I had a model,
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if you will. And I was like, yeah, I got to go and I'll be good. I'll be okay. Cause God took
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Abraham somewhere. He had no clue what was out there, but Abraham had a sense of adventure and
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he knew he had God. He was down to go. I connected to that story. I was like, yeah, I got to go. I
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got to get out of here. And that would have been in the winter. And then I left Cali in like June.
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So I think we do have to look at these stories, look at the parallels, see how they tie into our
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life and look at it and be able to say, okay, what happened next in this guy's life? Let me
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make sure I don't make those mistakes. Yeah. Yeah. And, and as for like the downfalls of these
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biblical characters, like it's, it's funny to be like, yeah, they're all common downfalls of like
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what we would attribute to jews and that's true but the more i look at like the jewish people i'm
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like what to everybody these are the stories of everybody it's not the story of i mean i think
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because the okay again in in the world that we're in the crimes of the jews are like quite pronounced
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especially when people don't see it but now they're all seeing it okay but like jews today
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they have the thing like this and like you go to shake the chick's hand when you're at like a trade
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show in new york and the woman won't shake her hand and stuff like that's not like biblical
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like i don't like i don't know what that is dude but these guys this is something different here
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like this is whatever this is it this is something wild dude the jews in the bible this is something
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wild and so i don't know to tie it into like whatever that modern thing is i yeah i don't know
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it's not it's not just dumb it's not just orthodox it's it's where he's tying it into uh
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the crimes of what they do now and like the way that they lie and they say it is a very specific
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way it's a specific lens to look at this through then i would just think that would be a hindrance
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man i would be looking at this through a lens of like where am i in this story which i think
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on benjamin says that because doesn't he say you got to kill the jew in your heart yeah yeah it's
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it is a bit of a hindrance um it's true but like yeah like you also got to be aware like damn like
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i'm doing these i'm doing this same crime to a different to to a lower level maybe but like yeah
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you see yourself in that you see yourself in the downfalls of what David's doing yeah usually that's
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what happens you see a guy in the story and you go oh man what just like when you see the guy
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texting and driving yeah like oh what a piece of like oh I do the same thing that happens when you
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read the bible dude you look at a guy you go oh what a piece you go dude and hopefully you get
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to a point you say god will you just show me where I don't like this I don't know where I'm doing this
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in my life but surely the reason I don't like this is because I'm doing this yeah will you show this
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to me god like where am i doing this i think one of the coolest part is like uh all these people
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are fundamentally flawed yeah like big issues uh but if they told everybody's story this it's like
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when i told my cousin i said when you know when i got back in cahoots with my cousin i didn't see
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him for like 20 years and we started talking about family stuff i was like you know our family's
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messed up dude yeah and he's like nah man all families are messed up and i remember i was like
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yeah you're right man you're right like all families are messed up and if you were to tell
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the real story of anybody it's going to be ugly like this dude everybody's life if you were to
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tell every bit of the story is ugly well we we've been talking about how like narrow the road is
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and it's like super narrow that could kind of make you it makes me a little paranoid you're
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like damn it's like hope i don't die tomorrow because who knows but then don't say that dude
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yeah but it's it's sort of the reality because it's like there is only one option there's there's
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a very thin road that we have to walk and that's that's the way we better make sure you're on that
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road then i know but i'm saying when you look at these stories look at uh look at peter kind of
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not a scoundrel but like he's a wild man not you're a wild man you denied christ that while
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you're walking with him three times you're walking on water with your walk yeah and then you and then
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you go on to make more mistakes and it's like well i don't know like then at the end it says
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when Jerusalem, New Jerusalem comes down, like he's got like an entire portion of the city named
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after him. But what is God looking for? Goody two-shoes or real ass people over and over? Like
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what is the thrust of Jesus' message? Don't be a hypocrite. Don't be an actor. Don't wear a mask.
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Whatever you are, be that because I can deal with that, including even Peter, which is intriguing
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if his name means rock. And we know that rocks are formed through process. That's very intriguing
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that he nicknames him process. If you will, he nicknames him rock, a thing that must go through
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a process. And you look at his life. It's, it's a process that's for all of us, dude. That's for
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all of us. People start picking at people and it would be just like if Jesus is working in a
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carpenter shop and he hasn't finished the table yet. And you come in and start mocking that table
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and he's saying, I'm not finished yet. I haven't even finished it yet. What do you mean? You're
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mocking the table. It's not even done. You see what I'm saying? So we're all in this process,
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but what he's always looking for is real ones so all i'm saying it's like i see the dude on
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benjamin i'm like that's a real ass dude that's a real ass dude let's just see where this story
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goes like that like that just seems like a dude god could get down with we'll see it's gonna be
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interesting to see where the story goes especially now because i feel like that story is like ready
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to move to this next arc i got to pay more attention to whatever he's doing it's always
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cool anything i ever see is it's just weird because like for me before i was like obviously
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if you're like i was like more of a consumer so i'm listening a lot to his show and like other
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people's stuff i listen to nothing now so i'm kind of disconnected from the happenings but i
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don't think that matters so much i get the instagram stuff i don't really know i don't
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even see that i'm just too busy i'm just i'm too busy with all the other stuff i see some stuff on
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twitter but it's not like i'm just way too busy i think it'll be more interesting looking back
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in a year from now or a couple months from now to see like all right what happened here
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what was the story it's a story that we should be paying attention to so are you saying he
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literally got in a time machine and he is king david no no you're saying that you're saying that
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he's literally king david king david david's not tall i mean david's yeah he's not tall at all you
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don't know that well we know just know the giant was bigger okay but just because it doesn't say
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he's tall doesn't mean he's not he's not tall david was probably like five nine is it possible
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that he is time traveling and he realizes that people are hip to him. So he's scrambling now
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to make sure people think he's not King David time traveling. I'm not, I'm not going to say
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that it's a hundred percent not possible. Okay. That's all I needed. That's I didn't need to hear