On this episode of the Graypills Podcast, my friend David El Corbo (aka The Raven) joins me to talk about his life as a podcaster, his love of hockey, and his love for the YMCA.
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00:06:31.220I was a conspiracy theorist for a long time and slowly came to accept that the biblical lens was the most effective one at trying to understand what we were going through.
00:06:43.580And then Timeline Cleanse is something totally different.
00:06:48.020You know, we talk a little bit about conspiracy on that show, but that one is really just watching horrifying murder videos mostly, a lot of debauchery.
00:06:58.900It's a comedy-based show, but it's really like trauma bonding.
00:07:02.580I think that's probably the best way to describe Timeline Cleanse is it's trauma bonding with the audience.
00:07:07.460But you have, by the way, your intro is super dope.
00:07:11.580I love that you start off with what is supposed to be, you know, rumored to be Gilgamesh, right?
00:07:55.900And so, you know, you have this lean, too.
00:08:00.500And we were talking about how the reason it's so great is it's kind of like the gift that keeps giving.
00:08:06.540If you're looking at the world in a more supernatural way, if you're accepting of those ideas, you start to see all the ways in which the Bible and all these other books work really well to act as like a scaffolding.
00:08:23.360So you could build on and determine what this realm is.
00:08:25.920And it really is the gift that keeps on giving.
00:08:28.020The more you look, the more vindication there is and the more there is to uncover.
00:08:32.640So, yeah, you do a lot of very similar stuff to what we do.
00:09:15.980Like if you have in any other genre, if you've got like your baseball player's favorite baseball player, like he's, that's who he is to me in very many ways.
00:09:23.580Him, Donut, Juan Ayala of the One on One Podcast.
00:09:27.520So I've always, I've known about these guys for years, but I've only been lucky enough to call them friends last year.
00:10:05.060You're one of these guys who I've been watching in the space for a while.
00:10:08.040And you immediately latched on to like a very interesting path, let's say, right?
00:10:15.720In this kind of like, you know, you're talking about Elohim etymology and things like that.
00:10:19.820But that very rapidly flowered into all these different branches of content that you're making.
00:10:25.360And not only are you making compelling content, but you're making it with some of my favorite people.
00:10:29.680I just want to say hats off to you because not only I think you have to be prolific in this content creation game if you want to have longevity, but you also have to make the right homies.
00:10:40.480And that's half the fun really is like finding the right community, finding the right homies and stuff.
00:10:44.860But you've landed amongst good company.
00:10:47.260And so it's been a lot of it's been a big pleasure watching you develop in such a short amount of time.
00:11:37.080Well, when you find like synchronicities with everybody and like all of y'all are into stuff that I've been into for a while and y'all have certain views on it that no one else has.
00:11:47.400Or you, you've said something or talked about something that I looked into years ago and haven't thought of since you brought it up.
00:12:07.120Like before I even had them on, um, they would be talking about stuff the same, like a day after.
00:12:13.740I would have like done a stream on it that 20 people watched and, uh, having no idea at all that they were going to be talking about it as, as well.
00:12:28.080When I first started listening to NDS, y'all started talking about, um, like, uh, that episode, I think you had someone on who encountered in an entity named Anu.
00:13:58.820The collective consciousness is taking this in.
00:14:00.720And so, yeah, I just love that because the comedians would be like, you're stealing my joke, but you're looking at these other creators and you're like, synchronicities, dog.
00:14:53.100And I don't like, even though I'm not the one who made this prediction, I never am too big of a fan of when people make predictions because I think there's a lot of room for things to happen.
00:15:06.440And when you restrict it to a certain date or time frame, what that ends up doing is when it doesn't happen, then the baby gets tossed out with the bathwater.
00:15:15.200For example, like Cliff High, he is making these predictions.
00:15:16.440And we can get into it if you like, but he's using something called predictive linguistics.
00:15:22.320And it's a data chunking algorithm that he has basically turned into an AI.
00:15:26.520And this AI takes emotionally charged language and then derives predictions from it.
00:15:31.840And how that's relevant to what I was just saying is that he says 50% of his predictions come true.
00:15:40.660The event and the time frame, which is pretty good odds.
00:15:45.500I think that's, you know, better than Vegas or something like that.
00:15:48.600But then there is an additional large percentage that does come true, but just not within the time frame.
00:15:55.300And honestly, when I hear that, I go, I don't give a shit about the time frame.
00:16:00.420I think Amon Rack came up with a name to call like the audience for Greypild.
00:16:07.260If you don't call them that, that's just, that's an idea.
00:16:10.660A beautiful idea that is left on the table if you don't call them Grapist.
00:16:16.300So, so, you know, when something doesn't come true within the time frame, but then does later, to me, it is just as valuable.
00:16:25.180But there are those who poo poo conspiracy theories.
00:16:27.620So they will use the date coming and going as a reason to be like, see, there's nothing there at all.
00:16:34.380And it's like, there is something there.
00:16:36.000You just need to not be so worried about that date.
00:16:39.400But yeah, to your point, December 3rd is the date.
00:16:43.040If you'd like, I can kind of break down a little bit about, you know, what we're talking about here and why there's a prediction about December 3rd.
00:16:52.740So Cliff High, and I'm not saying, by the way, I want to temper what I'm about to say with the idea that Cliff is an interesting character.
00:17:27.060And what he does is he uses a system called predictive linguistics, which takes certain keywords in a data chunk.
00:17:35.420So let's say you're looking at text-based dialogue between individuals on the Internet.
00:17:41.120If you take that text base and you dump it into this algorithm, it will then derive specific words that, for some reason, have an emotional charge that it can differentiate.
00:17:52.820And it accumulates enough of these words together to then somehow, and this is where it gets way well beyond my understanding, which is most things.
00:18:00.640It gets to the point where it is able to derive.
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00:19:18.200But a large event that was going to take place in America, it was going to change America and the world forever, it was going to be inherently violent, it was going to be of a military nature,
00:19:34.420and that it was even going to have an aspect of it that was going to be perceived as an accident,
00:19:40.280which I think that we can all look at the first plane hitting the first tower and say, for a moment in time, people certainly thought that was an accident.
00:19:49.300And I forget what the precursor event was, but it said, if this event happens, the precursor event, then this thing that I just described is going to take place.
00:19:57.820And it's going to take place within 85 days of this precursor event.
00:47:13.940You gotta think about if they're beings, um, from another dimension or from, uh, if they have a higher IQ than us,
00:47:22.140then they can create things that are fantastical to us, right?
00:47:26.160Right, right, and that's why there's always this element, by the way, of, like, these spirits pushing people towards, like, different inventions.
00:47:33.080It's like, how often do you hear, like, where did the idea for this invention come from?
00:47:36.060It came to me in a dream, or a lot of people are channeling, and they don't even realize that they're channeling.
00:47:40.620And so, these things can't really interact with our realm, but they can nudge us to get the job done for them.
00:47:47.720And that's, that's a whole nother bag.
00:47:49.140But, um, I think these greys, I suspect that, this is only a suspicion, I don't, you know, I don't have any, who the hell does have any concrete evidence about this?
00:48:01.080But, um, based off of, uh, experience or testimony and various information that I've gathered throughout the years, um, especially from Karen Wilkinson, who is somebody who's not really new in the sphere.
00:48:16.020She's a long-time abductee victim, and, uh, she seems to have gleamed a lot from her abduction scenarios, and they play really well with other people's experiences, and they do start to, uh, sort of flesh out this story.
00:48:29.820Now, we're not talking about butt babies, but shout-out to, uh, shout-out Juan.
00:48:33.000Um, so, what she says is, at one point, she's on a craft, and she smells this horrifying smell.
00:48:40.920Smells like sulfur and rotting flesh, which, by the way, is something that's very common when you see a cryptid, or you have an experience with aliens.
00:48:50.000I had no sensation of smell, that's for sure.
00:48:51.960Um, but I do have a schizophrenic aunt who would tell me that the devil would visit her, and when he would arrive, he would smell like sulfur and rotting flesh.
00:49:02.500So, and this is something that you get a lot over and over Bigfoot sightings, Dogman sightings.
00:49:07.300It's sulfur, sulfur, sulfur, sulfur, over and over again.
00:49:10.180So, she smells that, and she looks over, and she sees, in one of these moments of lucidity when she's being abducted, she sees a pile of grays.
00:49:20.300But they're just, like, discarded, and they're just laying there.
00:49:23.340And what that did, I felt like it was connected a piece of the puzzle where it's like, how come these things have no reproductive organs?
00:49:31.020How come they seem to just be automatons?
00:49:33.480They just go through, they do their job, they abduct you, they have no emotion whatsoever.
00:49:38.820Uh, they're always seen doing the exact same thing.
00:49:41.580Well, they might be biomechanical suits that these disembodied spirits can temporarily inhabit in order to interact with our physical realm.
00:49:50.860So, it's limited, you know, it's like, what do these things really want?
00:49:54.020Well, they want to, they want us to have sex, use drugs, like, overindulge, party.
00:50:25.140It wants to, that was Karen Wilkinson's thing, is she was being abducted, being impregnated, having children, being separated from these children,
00:50:32.380and then being tormented throughout periods of her life where she was made to see them again.
00:50:35.920Um, and this is not something that happens in isolation.
00:50:39.740This is, I mean, if you want to use the word a lot, it was a lot of people's experience.
00:50:45.220Women in particular who were abducted, um, and men too.
00:50:48.480But women, I think, have a much more, like, it's that maternal bond.
00:50:51.960So, it's much more impactful when they, they have the sensation.
00:50:54.880I mean, there's even, obviously, these, these stories about being impregnated.
00:52:30.220But, you know, me and my co-host Top, we make this argument that that seems to have been the goal.
00:52:35.520Like, these things are really excellent at playing the long game.
00:52:38.060Um, they, they sort of gestate this technological baby over this long period of time to, I made a sort of a joke.
00:52:47.340It wasn't really a joke, but I was watching Ninja Turtles with my son.
00:52:51.600It's like a new Ninja Turtles because they can't stop remaking them.
00:52:53.780And it was Donnie, Donatello has gotten to the point where he's, like, communicating with some sort of, like, seemingly benign entity that is trapped.
00:53:04.540And he's going to create a machine that can punch a doorway through into this realm and bring them into our reality.
00:53:11.080And what ends up happening is when he does this, these horrifying creatures come in.
00:53:26.160Getting us to a point where we can finally open a door.
00:53:30.400But to go back to the alien thing, I think that the actual element where there are grays and there are insectoids and there are all these different things, we are seeing an amalgamation.
00:56:26.360It's like, what happens where the archangels are standing there and they're looking at all the debauchery that the fallen and the Nephilim are creating on earth.
00:56:33.160And they're asking God, you know, when are we going to intervene?
00:58:34.340Um, I've also thought of it as them being very, very ancient humans, right?
00:58:40.340Maybe at one point they were from some other place and then they, they were sent here to guide us in antiquity and they took advantage of that and just masqueraded as gods.
00:58:51.760Yeah, that's a lot of the Atlantis lore you'll hear, right?
00:58:56.860It's like, you know, these people, these ascended masters who survived the fall of Atlantis then went on to lead mankind to, you know, new people because there was apparently a, a consolidated area of technological advancement and spiritual advancement.
00:59:10.140And when that went to shit, a lot of the other rest of the world wasn't developed yet and so some of these ancient Atlanteans survived and then took their teachings to these other cultures and that's where you see the birth of, you know, uh, these cultures that were creating megalithic structures and all these other things.
00:59:25.080They were spurred on by essentially what is ancient humans.
00:59:28.760My, the thing that upsets me, not upsets me, but it's like, I, people often look at me because I'm Christian and they go, oh, you believe that yours is real but everybody else's is bullshit.
00:59:39.720And I go, no, I believe everybody else's is real too.
00:59:43.940I just believe the Bible does a much better job at explaining the nature of these entities.
00:59:48.920And that's where everybody seems to go wrong in my opinion.
00:59:51.280If I were to be so bold to say that others are wrong, it would be that you're looking to these entities and you have a different name for them than what I have.
01:00:08.960Um, that one is this and the other one is, it doesn't matter at all.
01:00:11.900What matters is the nature of them and the nature.
01:00:16.600The Bible says that they are our adversaries, that they are deceiving us, that they rebelled against God, that they corrupted our genome.
01:00:23.100Like, these things hate us because of who we were made to be.
01:00:28.680And when they came down and they took, you know, kingship over us because they were so dominant, even their offspring, the Nephilim, were, you know, the mighty men of renown.
01:00:39.080They were, they, they could do some shit and they were huge and they were strong and some of them had powers and all this other shit.
01:00:43.800Um, when you look at them, they, of course, are going to tell the people that they're their benevolent gods, that they're good guys, right?
01:00:54.560So, so all that's happening is here is, is we're taking the narrative from the father God who created everything and everybody else is taking their narrative from the bad kids, from the, you know what I mean?
01:01:07.320From the naughty children who rebelled against God and were sexually deviant and corrupting mankind.
01:01:12.560These figures as the father God, right?
01:32:43.800Um, and, you know, something just happened.
01:32:47.420I knew it when I was, when I was first interacting with him.
01:32:50.840And this is going to sound weird to a lot of people, but like, I, I, my gut is my version of discernment.
01:32:57.120I don't have information to back up certain things, but my gut just pulls me towards certain things.
01:33:00.680And I knew that this racist on Twitter was going to be like something very important, someone very important to like this story that I had been working on for all these years.
01:33:15.740And it just so happens that around that time, I launched the Raven's Watch as my first attempt at a full blown conspiracy show.
01:33:22.880And by that time it was in its infancy, but I was well convinced that the biblical lens was the correct lens.
01:33:29.480So I went the bulk of my conspiracy career, just being a conspiracy theorist, exploring the occult, exploring all these things and, and very, very slowly coming to Christianity.
01:33:41.020I launch a show and it just so happens that Top is on the same wavelength at the same time, interested in the same things and is also making content in Tower Gang.
01:33:52.260Uh, a couple of interactions and one day I'm in New Orleans on vacation with my wife in a fucking clearly haunted hotel.
01:33:59.620And, uh, I get a call and it's top and he's going, Hey, what do you think about creating a show?
01:34:08.460Um, and I already had this idea for a show called Nephilim death squad.
01:34:11.360I just didn't know what to do with it.
01:34:12.540Cause I was already doing a show and, uh, and I just knew it in my gut, man.
01:34:18.160I even told my wife that if you asked my wife today, I asked her the other day, I said, how long have I been saying this is the show?
01:34:24.220And she's like, since the very first day, since the very first day, like my gut was just screaming all of this weird ass path, mapa, mapa, uh, uh, you know, dick dudes, where I belong, frog milk, JJ and Dave and J versus the world was all to get to this point.
01:34:40.980And I do believe it's a Nephilim death squad, which led you to timeline cleanse, um, which is the more important show.
01:34:47.040I think I started watching in like episode, um, before episode 50, like probably in the forties.
01:34:54.220Uh, because I knew who you were from the Raven's watch and, uh, didn't know, I knew who you were before I knew who tower gang was.
01:35:03.160And then I saw you on tower gang and, uh, I saw a laney edit at the same time that actually I, I, I didn't know what tower gang was until I saw the laney edit.
01:35:13.980And, uh, and I was like, Oh, these people know each other.
01:35:17.200These people are doing stuff together.
01:35:19.320And, uh, yeah, that was like a year ago, almost.
01:35:22.560So, um, Hey, I'd already been listening to Thomas and Juan and, uh, like Sam, Sam, Sam Tripoli, the confessionals, um, a few other podcasts.
01:35:34.720And so it's, it's, it's wild be just being able to like talk to these people.
01:35:40.880Oh, I was just going to ask you that are them friends.
01:35:43.140Does, is it me or did it feel like in the past, I don't know, like six months, frog milk and top lobster.
01:35:50.080Um, does it feel like this community just like from the outside, it looks so big.
01:35:58.420And then when you get here, it's like, and it's actually very small and you realize like, there's only, I don't know why it like felt bigger.
01:36:33.280Um, yeah, dude, my, my first few months, uh, like I didn't live stream.
01:36:37.820I just recorded more, but once I started live streaming for like a couple months, I didn't have anyone as an audience until these guys started coming by.
01:37:35.920And I take everything back that I said before, and I want you to feel bad.
01:37:38.780Uh, and I'm going to go on now to talk about the content creators, but there is like something that they're doing where they are.
01:37:45.160They're fueling not only me and top, but not only you, but also like, you know, Austin and, and Jose or Tower Gang or, you know, Paranoid or all these people like we're kind of, um, gaining exponential momentum.
01:38:04.340Like I was just telling you before the show, um, these people, you know, are a huge reason that I was just on the, the, the most anti-Semitic documentary of the, the, you know, 2020s.
01:38:16.720Um, Steve, Stu Peters just launched this documentary occupied.
01:38:20.840And, and for some reason, this idiot was on it.
01:38:25.360And, and admittedly, and I, I, I said it to, to you, I believe before the show, I said it on timeline cleanse.
01:38:30.760It's like, I have a very peripheral knowledge of these things.
01:38:33.940It's just that I do a good job of talking.
01:38:36.800So I'm certainly no authority on the subject.
01:38:39.300And I pretty much added nothing new to the conversation, but I think I just kind of rounded things out in a way for the average person to understand, but I have no business being on a documentary that just did 3 million views.
01:38:50.200Um, I don't think that it actually is going to do anything for me numbers wise.
01:38:53.140I think it's just going to increase the likelihood that I'll be out in Sam's club with my wife one day and somebody will go, you, I know you, you're the famous anti-Semite.
01:39:01.200Um, so, you know, uh, we'll see how it goes, but the momentum behind this, the momentum, uh, not only because of, of the community that we're building on one side, but also the community that's happening on this end.
01:40:10.160Tucker Carlson is talking about the Nephilim.
01:40:12.160Um, man, I've literally got to check myself to be like, am I far and wrong?
01:40:15.580Cause you know, whenever somebody of that stature starts agreeing with you or Tucker Carlson is talking about UFOs and how there's a spiritual aspect to them.
01:40:25.880Like, and then he's talking about getting attacked by like a demon, whatever you want to say about Tucker Carlson, whatever's going on with him.
01:40:33.200Highly suspicious, just as I am of everybody.
01:40:44.960If he came out and he was like, yo, um, I got to admit I used to be into like this Jewish mysticism shit because that's who, that's what people that were surrounding me were into when I was on like Fox and everything.
01:40:56.440Since then I've denounced that it is the wrong way to go.
01:41:00.080I can definitively say people are dabbling in that at the upper echelons of, of media.
01:51:38.580That's why I do upwards of, like, eight shows, nine shows.
01:51:42.980Right now we're doing, I do five episodes of Timeline Cleanse, typically, like, two episodes of Nephilim Death Squad, plus the Book of Revelation series, if that happens.
01:51:53.140And then NDS Chronicles and a deep dive on a topic with just top.
01:52:20.260A lot of people get mad at me, Jules, because they go, oh, if you're a Christian and you believe in Jesus, why are you calling people a faggot?
01:52:47.820All my best friends were just terrible people, but they were beautiful people.
01:52:51.380And there was never this air of moral superiority.
01:52:55.900Now that I am in this Christian community, I am actually a little bit shocked to look around and see how much, like, judgment is being casted at me.
01:54:03.200So, but I think the real thing, which is why it resonates with, you know, the viewers is that there is room to be a piece of shit, but to also believe in Jesus Christ and to believe in the supernatural and to look at the Bible and go, yeah, there's something here.
01:54:20.300But if you are that type of person, well, the church sort of ostracizes you or you have to become this squeaky clean character when you're around these people.
01:54:31.140Well, when you're watching Nephilim Death Squad, when you're watching Grey Pilled Podcast, when you're watching any of these, you don't have to be that.
01:54:37.900We're here analyzing information, thereby drawing ourselves closer to God, right?
01:54:42.980Because we're bolstering the argument for, you know, the Father God, for Jesus Christ being a central figure, for the biblical lens to be, you know, incredibly important to being able to understand what's happening around us.
01:54:54.680You can see that as compelling, interesting, as drawing you in, but you don't have to engage in this like fake moral superiority.
01:55:03.900I'm not, you know, I guess in some ways we're the facilitators of this information, which is as lightly as I'll put it, because we're not teachers or anything like that.
01:55:14.380But when you watch a couple of dudes who are self-identified retards, who are, you know, saying fucked up shit, calling each other faggots, but then are like, yo, by the way, how interesting is this shit?
01:55:26.860Well, you don't feel like you don't belong. In fact, you feel probably like you're better than us, which you probably are. You probably are a better person than us. You know what I mean?
01:55:35.920So what we're doing is we're reaching people that the church isn't reaching with the same message that the church is preaching.
01:55:42.820And I think when people get upset about us, they don't realize that it's like the amount of emails that we get that say, thank you for what you do because of your show.
01:55:56.540I've now taken an interest in the church again. I'm reading my Bible. I'm getting closer to God.
01:56:01.560Like, that's a win. That's a win every time.
01:56:04.720Absolutely. And if I got you to the conversation because you got to hang out in the chat and accuse me of dick farting, then like, I'll take it, dude.
01:56:14.720Whatever it takes to get you there. If you looked at me and you're like, this dude is a fucking fag.
01:56:19.980And then all of a sudden, 10 seconds later, you heard me call myself a fag and you went, this guy's all right.
01:56:25.280And that brought you to the conversation. Fucking I'll take it. I'll take it every time at the name.
01:56:31.480The name of the game at the end of the day is information warfare, and it's a war for the hearts and minds of individuals.
01:56:40.060And if I have to, I'm not even lowering myself. If I have to be exactly who I am, which is a retarded faggot, in order to draw you into the conversation, then I will be that retarded faggot.
01:56:52.460And I have no problems with it. So, you know, it's just people get this, like I said, air of moral superiority.
01:56:58.920They get their heads up their asses and they think that they can, they can judge you because you said a naughty word on the internet.
01:57:04.760And it's like, yeah, go ahead. Judge me. This isn't for you. My guy, you're already there.
01:57:09.460You're already there. But there is so many people on the outskirts of this conversation who, by the way, have more to contribute than you do.
01:57:16.380Like, I find that from these fucking terrible people, the chat goes off.
01:57:20.440You find them a lot closer to the spirit.
01:57:22.880Not only that, they have fucking information.
01:57:25.700Like, you'll look over and they know their shit.
01:57:28.040And I'm like, these are my people, dude. They know their shit.
01:57:30.660Like, there's a reason why we're all in the same sphere, the same group chat, right?
02:02:25.860And, you know, me and Thomas have a fucking music show that we just talk and listen to music, you know?
02:02:31.580So, just kind of bringing all these different aspects, you know, with the Elohim and the Cryptids.
02:02:39.400And I, the, the live streams that I do, if I'm not having someone on like you or just like, you know, some, some kind of swap cast and I'm just like hanging out with the chat and just watching fucking YouTube videos, doing deep dives on YouTube and giving my perspective on a lot of things.
02:02:54.360Um, so, you know, there's, there's a lot of components to Gray Pilled.
02:03:00.740Uh, and it's still, like I said, it hasn't been a year yet.