Nephilim Death Squad - Retarded Obedience to God w⧸ James Williams of Dark Waters

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00:01:51.620 welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another episode of nephilim death squad i am david lee

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00:03:08.520 us today. This is actually really fun. So we were just recently on his show, and a lot of the

00:03:14.120 audience knows, James, I've been calling you my new favorite person, and that is not even mildly

00:03:19.960 an exaggeration. You are one of my favorite people, and it's been an honor to kind of get to

00:03:26.500 know you recently. So we're welcoming onto the show for the first time James Williams of Dark

00:03:30.780 Waters. James, before we get into this conversation, let's tell the audience where they can find all

00:03:35.960 your work you got a book right now that's absolutely killing it uh which is fantastic

00:03:40.040 and a large body of work you've been doing this for a long time where can people find it

00:03:44.200 all right so head on on over to iamjameswilliams.com that's my website that's my portal where you go

00:03:50.600 through and um the book that i've been working on is out there it's called it's called in sir

00:03:57.640 it's a fantastic book it teaches you how to pray into the courts of heaven heaven

00:04:01.720 but also on that website it will lead to you to imdwaters.com which is where you will find all

00:04:07.800 kind of spooky scary stories my actual catalog that's been around for a very long time um for

00:04:15.000 those of you who want to just want some prayer help on that same website is what everybody calls

00:04:20.280 the six finger nephilim book and it's uh before you sleep it's a free download and it will give

00:04:29.480 you some prayers absolutely absolutely that's an ai cover yeah yeah look at the fingers fingers

00:04:37.320 there you go there you go um you know uh there's a lot of stuff that we want to talk to you about

00:04:42.280 top see if you could look into it there's a little bit of an echo maybe he's got echo cancellation

00:04:45.640 on or not on sure um so before we get into a lot of the stuff that we want to talk about

00:04:52.680 i'm interested to to know um what inspired this book we talked a little bit before the show and

00:04:59.320 when you said that some of your content, as far as books go, has previously been in the arena of

00:05:04.560 cryptids and things like that, which is a fascinating conversation. Also love to get on

00:05:08.540 that. We don't talk about that sort of thing enough on this show. Not nearly enough. Not

00:05:11.460 nearly enough. It's actually, we've had conversations, Top and I, where we go like,

00:05:15.380 I kind of want to do a little bit less of the conspiracy sleuthing and a little bit more

00:05:20.600 of the sort of the fantastic testimony of individuals who have experienced these things.

00:05:24.580 But before we even touch any of that, what inspired the deviation from that genre of content to this, how to gain favor within the courts of heaven?

00:05:35.100 That's a fantastic concept and one that is immensely important.

00:05:40.060 What drove that idea?

00:05:42.140 And tell us a little bit about the book.

00:05:44.540 All right.

00:05:44.920 So the echo is gone.

00:05:46.940 That's fantastic.

00:05:47.500 Now you sound great.

00:05:48.360 Yeah.

00:05:48.780 It sounds great.

00:05:49.620 So now that that's out of the way, listen, this is what happened.

00:05:52.580 So the Dark Waters brand was built on paranormal stories.

00:05:56.980 So when you go back 10, 12 years ago, there was two brands of content creation that was very prevalent.

00:06:03.820 One of them was creepypasta stories, which are like little pie face teenagers who make up stories like number one.

00:06:09.300 My grandmother saw a scary monster. Right. You've heard that. Right.

00:06:13.260 I watched it, James. So and then there was people who did interviews about cryptids and monsters.

00:06:22.580 on you know on uh on youtube yeah and that was kind of like the foundational things that birth

00:06:29.160 all the rest of the stuff when i started telling stories there were not many storytellers now

00:06:33.820 everybody's telling a story and everybody's on on you know on youtube telling stories and

00:06:38.300 monetized storytelling so when i came into the game i decided i was like you know all this stuff

00:06:42.580 is fake and born and raised in new orleans this real spooky stuff that happened here i'm gonna

00:06:47.140 talk to my friends and we're gonna sit down and i'm gonna find out what happened so i started

00:06:50.920 just chopping it up with my friends, mayors, uh, city councilmen, police chiefs, all kinds of

00:06:56.340 people. And I was like, man, tell me anything scary to tell that happened to you. And I was

00:06:59.360 like, if you let me tell the story, sign this paperwork and let me tell the story. It's like,

00:07:02.820 man, I love you, Jay. You can tell a story. And so I started telling true, scary stories

00:07:06.920 that are probably true from the individuals that, that, that shared the story. And I would have

00:07:11.680 them sign documentation on it. So, um, I move into the cryptid field and the cryptid field

00:07:17.880 is kind of like you know um it's it's divided into those who go out into the field and kind of

00:07:24.620 look for monsters so they run around in the woods you know searching for monsters brave people

00:07:29.340 because there's real things out there and there's the what i call like the media of the cryptid field

00:07:34.960 which is the people who kind of interview people but in the storytelling arena there was really

00:07:39.240 nobody there so i focus on the storytelling arena of real stories so after probably six years of

00:07:47.160 really telling stories and interviewing witnesses as you interview eyewitnesses over and over and

00:07:52.820 over again these things start to stick out and generational sin iniquity and transgression start

00:07:59.680 uh like sticking out as being a common thread as to why people have these encounters so

00:08:04.820 um alcoholism it's very very common in people who have encounters with cryptids

00:08:10.220 um childhood molestation is extremely common in people who have cryptid encounters um

00:08:17.160 uh uh drug abuse is extremely common and so i'm i'm because in this environment of cryptids

00:08:24.240 is extremely competitive and people would say oh this story is not real i started charting

00:08:30.060 all this data it's like okay this person had this encounter at this location and when i asked them

00:08:35.800 about their family this is why they had the encounter so i started charting it on the excel

00:08:39.400 spreadsheet so one day sitting there looking at all the information on the excel spreadsheet

00:08:44.340 and I'm like this don't make no sense this is spiritual this is spiritual and so we get to

00:08:51.620 this point where and this was this shifting moment this lady calls me and she says hey

00:08:56.060 I want to tell you my story and she's like you know my family has been under a generational curse

00:09:03.120 from druid magic and I'm like whatever you know so she's telling me her story and um I'm listening

00:09:12.260 to the story she's telling me the story about as she laid in the bed there was this hag that was

00:09:17.940 behind the curtains so imagine laying in the bed hold on there's a child abducted lord we ask in

00:09:25.680 the name of jesus christ that you send your warring angels out now to um not only track down

00:09:31.300 this child abductor that just abducted this child but your word says lord uh it's better for a man

00:09:36.660 to tie a millstone around his neck uh and to be tossed in the seat and to leave one of these little

00:09:41.040 ones astray lord i ask that a millstone be put around the neck of the child abducted now in

00:09:45.060 the name of jesus christ according to your word you are god of your word lord i ask that you

00:09:48.880 empower men um and men in law enforcement to find this child and we decree and declare freedom for

00:09:56.000 that child in the name of jesus christ for the word of god says that he who the son sets free

00:10:00.180 is free indeed amen all right so we didn't we didn't pray before we started either we didn't

00:10:05.140 pray before we started very rarely do and it's like just bad no no to be perfectly honest like

00:10:10.560 when i'm coming here every time i'm coming here every time i'm coming here yeah but we don't

00:10:13.640 pray together that's real easy lord we thank you for this opportunity for me and my brothers in

00:10:17.560 the faith to get together we honor you we praise you and lord we love you because you are king of

00:10:22.560 kings and lord of lords now lord we bind any spirits of interference strife pride perversion

00:10:28.360 competition anger and what is you and any provoking spirit that would try to provoke in a

00:10:38.280 chat we bind all wicked fingers and tongues and we decree your word over this conversation over

00:10:43.820 us your word says every tongue that rises up against us in judgment thou shall condemn and

00:10:48.540 so standing on your word lord now we condemn those tongues in the name of jesus christ and we ask that

00:10:53.100 you come into the show and that you commune with us and you um you speak through our vessels we

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00:11:31.580 so why so wait can i just say something real quick james i want you to know that um you know

00:11:37.640 after our previous conversation and you were talking about the way that you you talk to people

00:11:41.680 you know whether or not it's you know on the show or anything like that and that these days you only

00:11:46.900 move and these days i might have just put that in there you might have always been this way but

00:11:51.540 you only move toward whoever god moves you towards and i just want to say that um that has changed

00:11:59.520 a lot of the way that I think lately and I'm trying to it's something that I'm working on

00:12:05.160 and I think it's probably a constant work but I'm trying to only do things that God wants me to do

00:12:09.560 these days and I'm trying to get better at hearing that um so you know that whole bag and what goes

00:12:15.780 into that and I think that's kind of everybody's struggle if you're really trying but but after our

00:12:20.620 conversation with you that really it really changed my perspective and oriented me in that

00:12:25.380 direction and uh a lot of the chat knows and they might make jokes about it or whatever because i

00:12:30.000 keep bringing you up on the show but i just want you to know the conversation we had was very

00:12:34.400 meaningful and it was there's a there's a trajectory change not a trajectory change but a refining or a

00:12:40.140 sharpening of that trajectory and uh and it's doing great deal to the conversation that we had

00:12:44.980 so i want to thank you for that but but please i don't want to derail you too much no you're not

00:12:48.600 gonna derail me thank you man i appreciate you honoring the conversation i'll let's just jump

00:12:53.120 on that real quick and then we'll jump back remember it's her in the bed and there's a hag

00:12:58.360 behind the curtain yes y'all got that so you can bring it back so watch this people talk about

00:13:03.440 hearing the voice of the lord the easiest way to hear the voice of the lord is to schedule time

00:13:08.320 for the lord in your life so the way you get direction from the lord is scheduling time in

00:13:12.300 your life and building an intimate relationship with him so you take time out of your day which

00:13:16.260 is a busy day you make a sacrifice which is of your time which is a value to him he says hey

00:13:22.480 my son is sacrificing time to hang out with me now because he's king don't have the expectation

00:13:29.560 that he just gonna come immediately as you start praying and saying hey i want to get close to you

00:13:34.060 i want to get close to you i want to get closer to you don't get discouraged you got to remember

00:13:36.940 he's not just god our father but he's also a king as well and this is why you always hear me refer

00:13:41.580 to him as my lord my king my god because that mindset that he's a king means that okay you're

00:13:47.280 gonna get to me when you won't get to me but in between now and then i ask that you give me the

00:13:51.920 grace to do what i need to do it's kind of like when you find yourself in a situation where

00:13:55.460 things have gone bad and you pray to the lord the spiritual exchange that you make is peace

00:13:59.400 he gives you peace of mind while you work through the prop so to people in the chat to anybody

00:14:04.160 listening pick a time of the day and pray the lord every day do it consistently for 30 days

00:14:09.760 just every day it could be 12 noon at your lunch break it could be as soon as you get up

00:14:14.140 pick a time pray to the lord and what's going to happen is you're going to start talking to him

00:14:17.920 and then he's going to start communicating you in the various different ways that he communicates

00:14:21.480 sometimes he communicates to you through a stranger that just that just says the right

00:14:25.700 thing sometimes it's through a youtube video sometimes it's through a tv show some it's he's

00:14:29.540 going to communicate with you right then when you get to the point to where you really start hearing

00:14:33.620 his voice you go through the battle of whose voice am i hearing it's three voices it's the lord's

00:14:38.620 voice it's my voice and there's anything that's attached to me from my generational bloodline

00:14:43.660 demonically so now you're battling these three voices the bible the bible says my sheep know my

00:14:47.820 voice um yeah it's my sheep know my voice and so eventually you get to know his voice and so you

00:14:55.160 get to the point to where you love hearing his voice then you get to the point to where you just

00:14:58.200 harass him so like i do hey what's good morning what you're doing today this is what i got on my

00:15:02.220 schedule i'm thinking about doing this this this this this i don't know if you're gonna answer me

00:15:05.300 right now it's all good but i'm just gonna tell you this what i plan to do would you mind helping

00:15:09.300 me with this day right you go through your day you're getting ready to do something why are you

00:15:13.260 doing that okay well what do you think i should do do this this this and it works out so it's a

00:15:21.020 sacrifice that we make to have a level of intimacy with him in order to hear that voice a lot stronger

00:15:27.060 but it's a sacrifice you're gonna make to get there and understand that he's a king and he's

00:15:32.100 in control all right back to this lady right so she calls she's like yeah you know i got this

00:15:38.980 druid magic in my family and everything i do i'm cursed so if i get a new car the car engine goes

00:15:44.800 out if i get a new house the house burns down this and you got to remember guys i'm a baby

00:15:48.780 christian at this point in time and i'm just i'm like okay i'm gonna see what i can do to help

00:15:52.700 this lady greatest mistake i could ever make so she tells the story she's laying in the bed

00:15:57.560 the curtains by the window it's one of those long curtains that go all the way down to the ground

00:16:01.000 and she's looking and she sees this curtain pull back and it's this old hag's face the old hag shows

00:16:07.480 his face and she freaks out pulls her head under the cover she's laying in the bed she's like okay

00:16:11.520 i'll be fine then she feels what feels like somebody laying in the bed with her like the

00:16:16.240 indention of somebody laying in the bed then she feels this thing touching her and violating her

00:16:20.680 in a place she rolls over it's nobody's there and in this point of conversation she starts

00:16:24.820 bawling out crying one of my one of my indications that a witness was not lying to me when we did

00:16:30.800 these phone interviews was they would always go emotional and so i would push them to the point

00:16:35.840 of emotion to verify the emotion because if you told me you saw a damn werewolf and it scratched

00:16:40.940 you and as you would tell me the story i couldn't detect any emotion in your story you lying if i

00:16:46.020 see a damn 12 foot tall werewolf and it scratched me i'm going to have some kind of trauma right

00:16:50.740 so i'm looking for that trauma and so because people be like well how does he know that those

00:16:55.500 stories are real right i've been through this for years well um well in this case this woman's

00:17:01.360 traumatized and so as i'm sitting there i'm like okay take a break i'm gonna go give me something

00:17:06.160 to eat i'll be back calm down and i'll call you back so i go across the street give me like some

00:17:11.720 chicken wings like chicken nuggets you know so you know black people like chicken give me some

00:17:15.560 chicken nuggets come back and and i sit down i call her later right and as i'm eating the nugget

00:17:24.900 she's talking the voice guy clearly says spit that out your mouth right now or you're going to

00:17:30.540 choke whoa and i'm like huh and she's just talking so i get up and i'm like and a little piece gets

00:17:39.100 stuck in my throat so now i'm choking she's outside the bathroom on the phone on the table

00:17:43.880 i'm in a choking and vomiting and vomiting it up so i come back and as soon as i sit down the lord

00:17:48.940 says there's more to this than you understand get off the phone with that woman right now

00:17:52.440 say ma'am i'm gonna call you back uh uh when you gonna call me back probably never so i hang up

00:17:59.060 phone click come back home that night and i'm landing the bed and as i'm sleeping i wake up

00:18:08.260 because i feel the presence in the room and i'm coming you know the veil is right before you go

00:18:12.260 to sleep there's a space called a veil where you're kind of going through then you're going to deep

00:18:15.460 sleep i'm waking up coming back through the veil i'm not having sleep paralysis but i'm woke and

00:18:20.980 i feel something sticking his finger in my mouth it's like a finger a long finger like pushing

00:18:24.980 like this and i bite i'm like damn i just bit something so they open my eyes but i don't see

00:18:32.240 nothing like all right whatever cool what do you do i go back to sleep and this time it's like

00:18:36.580 trying to touch my throat so i pop up and i didn't know how to rebuke this thing or nothing

00:18:41.500 so i get up the only thing i knew to do was i'm about to go get a preacher and put it on and i'm

00:18:46.540 not going to bed until i feel this feeling leave so that's like that happens like one i don't go

00:18:50.480 to bed to 4am right after that I call a guy who's an exorcist and I say hey man

00:18:55.580 you know we've had to talk about some of these things I'm doing this this this

00:18:58.640 happened and he said well James you legally interfere with that spirits

00:19:02.600 business no I'm sorry all right he was like so what you gonna need to do is

00:19:06.080 you're gonna need to crack open your Bible and you're gonna need to start

00:19:08.540 studying the Bible it's okay now me I have an engineering mind graduated

00:19:14.240 degree in that school engineering a minor in physics so I treated the Bible

00:19:17.060 like it was an engineering textbook so i'm like all right let's crap this book open and i started

00:19:21.900 reading and i started reading and i go through and it's not jumping off the page so i'm like

00:19:27.620 i just don't make no damn sense so i said okay let me start talking to people i try to talk to

00:19:31.460 pastors about the demonic stuff and none of them have any answers they're just like oh we don't

00:19:35.400 mess with them demons it's black pastors son we don't mess with none of them demons well okay

00:19:39.700 whatever you're not gonna help and so eventually the lord leads me to people for me to study and

00:19:45.320 and I started studying. And I started taking

00:19:47.260 Wednesdays and Thursdays, eight hours a day

00:19:49.440 just to study the Bible. The whole

00:19:51.340 day, study the Bible.

00:19:53.600 And I realized

00:19:55.220 something. You can't talk

00:19:57.320 to people about spooky-ooky stuff without

00:19:59.340 giving them the solution. Then I

00:20:01.300 quickly come to realize that the solution is Jesus

00:20:03.240 Christ. That's why I'm so convinced.

00:20:05.560 Because you

00:20:07.100 asked me a story about it, I know somebody

00:20:09.240 that experienced it. Yep. You asked

00:20:11.220 me a story about it, I know somebody that experienced

00:20:13.200 it and called on the name of Jesus and it stopped it.

00:20:15.320 But you can't really quantify that for the public's eye, like, you know, like you can't really debate it because you're like, well, you just tell me what somebody said happened because to somebody who doesn't believe in Jesus, that doesn't equate to them.

00:20:27.440 You know what I'm saying?

00:20:27.760 Their eyes are dark and they don't see nothing.

00:20:30.240 But for those of us who believe in Jesus and believe in the supernatural and experience the supernatural, the average individual is experiencing sleep paralysis.

00:20:37.240 They're laying in their bed.

00:20:37.900 You're like, in the name of Jesus, poof, and it pops off.

00:20:42.100 Right?

00:20:42.280 Yep.

00:20:42.680 And they don't even believe in Jesus, but they know you say the name of Jesus.

00:20:45.320 And so what led me to this point was I had all this data, all this knowledge, all this this understanding.

00:20:52.980 But in order to help people, I needed to know Jesus to help them.

00:20:56.760 So then it gets to the point to where I'm talking to my witnesses and I'm talking to them and teaching them and kind of giving them these little quick Bible studies like on certain things.

00:21:07.160 Like, OK, here's what the spirit offense is doing on your job, like counsel, take giving people counseling.

00:21:11.200 and then the lord says okay that field that you're in is full of strife and full of drama time to

00:21:16.080 leave but i left went to start doing other stuff and just like recently he said uh he gave me

00:21:21.120 options he said do you want to go back over there because he's i still have people i want to pull

00:21:24.200 out of there and i started negotiating yeah i'll go back but this this this this this can't happen

00:21:29.720 he ain't say nothing so i was like okay well we'll wait till we finish this conversation so

00:21:33.780 the last interview i did was a guy named eric stagazi a couple years ago and we were in the

00:21:39.660 midst of this interview and eric says hey man is this the story you did siege of locket ranch

00:21:45.640 really real and i'm looking and i'm like this is just a waste of time because the story is so real

00:21:53.800 and so vetted that people have went there and vetted the story people still go to the location

00:21:57.780 where the story was and they'll go and they'll be like yeah i didn't see what you were talking

00:22:00.860 about but i'm talking to people there and they encounter they encountered dogman and i'm just

00:22:04.460 sitting there's like this is stupid and i don't want to talk about this anymore i said lord i'm

00:22:07.880 talking about this anymore he's like i've been told you to leave it alone go to the next thing

00:22:11.480 so i go from that thing when i move out of there i'm at about 100 150 000 subscribers and when i

00:22:18.280 made the decision move i skyrocket i think i skyrocket up to like 400 000 sub all the rest

00:22:24.520 of this stuff then it plateaus and i'm hanging out with him and i'm talking and i'm like yo

00:22:29.400 why why why was my channel kind of being held down he said because you gave it to me and i did i made

00:22:33.960 made a covenant with the Lord all this belong to you you know that he said you gave it to me

00:22:37.600 so you grow when I want you to grow I said okay well what I do in the meantime

00:22:41.120 to grow he said well in the meantime what you're going to do is you're going to study you're going

00:22:45.940 to learn you're going to lead people to the kingdom and so we can talk about anything

00:22:49.020 you want to talk about just know that I'm going to point to Jesus because that's the solution to

00:22:53.180 the for the people so for example you guys are talking about Timothy earlier yeah and his Joe

00:22:58.620 rogan appearance right and i said my expectation is not that he's going to point to jesus so it's

00:23:05.660 just not my expectation because pattern wise a person is going to do what they do over and over

00:23:10.840 and over again so when you see the pattern then it is what it is there's no need to have an

00:23:14.480 expectation you know i'm saying like but if you go look at a steve quail steve quail always points

00:23:19.440 to jesus so now i would be disappointed steve quail just got up there and didn't point to

00:23:23.340 jesus like what the hell going on with you steve what's your problem but we have to come to the

00:23:28.300 that we realize that the patterns themselves show you the individual that kind of brings me to what

00:23:34.460 i wanted to talk to you guys about which is spiritual like altars and spiritual warfare right

00:23:40.060 so an altar um throughout the old testament were like like places where people made sacrifices

00:23:46.620 right so we remember uh cain and his brother abel erected also to the god to the lord and one of them

00:23:52.380 made the sacrifice of his first fatling the other one made the sacrifice a whole bunch of stuff on

00:23:56.860 from the ground. Later, Cain got mad at Abel, bust him across the head, let him out. It led to

00:24:02.080 the very first court case in the courts of heaven where God came down, investigated the blood,

00:24:06.880 investigated the murder, and bada bing, bada boom, right? But what people don't realize is

00:24:12.220 in our lives, we create alters to things. You look at pornography every day, you're building

00:24:17.600 a spiritual alter to pornography. So when you go to bed that night, if something rubbing on your

00:24:22.400 booty in your sleep, it's because you built an alter to pornography, right? Some people build

00:24:26.680 an altar to the news. Like I know plenty of people who have altars to Donald Trump. You can't talk

00:24:30.460 to him about Donald Trump. You're perfect. You can't do nothing, right? And so we build these

00:24:34.800 altars where we make these exchanges in our lives. And then we wonder why we get the results that we

00:24:41.300 get. So they got unrighteous altars and they got righteous altars. And people in the paranormal

00:24:46.060 field, in the cryptid field, they have erected altars to these cryptids. And these cryptids

00:24:52.160 have entities attached to them spirits attached to them that's why you'll see a person who had

00:24:58.180 like a bigfoot encounter you just go back and look at bigfoot encounters you'll find there's

00:25:02.340 bigfoot encounters in the cities there's bigfoot encounters in the woods then you get to these

00:25:06.200 real strange bigfoot encounters where people be like i saw bigfoot coming through the wall of my

00:25:10.820 house yeah i saw bigfoot in my bedroom that's because they have an altar to where they have

00:25:16.100 an agreement with that spirit that supports the bigfoot they have an agreement with it to where

00:25:20.520 it's got access to them at any point in time is this because they they have this experience and

00:25:25.560 it's very meaningful and and mysterious and so they pursue it and then it becomes this big i

00:25:29.740 mean you see people with bigfoot t-shirts and bigfoot bumper stickers logo you'll see it in

00:25:34.520 their house yeah you're watching bigfoot finding bigfoot constantly it's it's your new favorite

00:25:38.880 form of of content and things like that is is that what you're saying exactly not exactly what

00:25:44.800 I think Tony ran into that

00:25:46.820 not fairly early, but

00:25:48.960 you were on his show pretty

00:25:50.960 early, right? Merkel's show?

00:25:53.020 Yeah, probably his second episode or

00:25:54.900 third episode. It was real early.

00:25:56.640 It took him, I mean, because it

00:25:58.860 must have taken him 100 more episodes.

00:26:00.680 No, maybe more. To get past that Bigfoot

00:26:03.000 humble. No, I mean like 300 episodes

00:26:05.040 to figure out like, oh, I'm being

00:26:06.840 attacked spiritually because I'm

00:26:08.940 pointing at all this supernatural stuff

00:26:11.120 and haven't put up any defenses against

00:26:13.100 Yeah, I think Tony's much more oriented towards Christ these days. But I think it's, you know, the pitfalls of experiencing something supernatural or exposing yourself to these stories. And they're amazing. But if you're not grounded in Christ, or if Christ isn't the center, you know, point that you return to after the story is like you're talking about, James, then yeah, you end up building an altar to it.

00:26:37.000 I don't want to deviate too much, but I want to ask you who was because you said there was a lot of people in this space, like, you know, top five ghost stories or whatever on the Internet, like that kind of a deal.

00:26:47.840 But who before you, if you're aware of anybody, was exploring these things and then pointing to Christ?

00:26:57.020 um the one guy that comes to mind was a guy that was in the kind of cryptid field

00:27:05.360 named brenton saw when he was cool with a guy named vic cunder vic cunder was still around

00:27:11.340 dog man encounters but it was brenton saw was the one guy that i saw doing it and the weirdest

00:27:17.480 thing about all christians that find themselves in the cryptid field they end up getting cancers

00:27:21.360 and die oh wow so linda goffrey was a christian linda goffrey got cancer and died brenson was a

00:27:28.180 christian he got cancer and died there was another guy that was and for the record ladies and

00:27:33.140 gentlemen listening i'm going from my memory if i leave someone off because y'all real messy over

00:27:37.540 there i'm not disrespecting anybody but you guys know the people's names that were christian there

00:27:42.260 was another guy that always spent time in the woods he always had like a backpack camera and

00:27:46.500 He will record and get pictures of all kinds of cryptids and monsters.

00:27:49.280 He died of cancer.

00:27:50.860 Oh, actually, I think I know who you're talking about.

00:27:55.140 His son's still around.

00:27:56.980 And the guy, he used to go out there routinely and he had, you know, he's got, he was recording every time.

00:28:03.520 And he wasn't going through his catalog every time, right?

00:28:06.760 Because everybody who is in sort of content creation knows if you're recording that much, it's a nightmare to produce and go through.

00:28:14.320 And if you're doing it every day, you kind of don't feasibly have the time to do that.

00:28:17.280 So it's my understanding he has a lot of stuff left over.

00:28:20.260 My mind keeps going, Rob Skiba.

00:28:22.080 It's definitely not Rob Skiba, but I'm getting a little blockage on his name.

00:28:26.400 I know who you're talking about, though.

00:28:27.420 I'm pretty sure we're thinking of the same guy.

00:28:30.140 But there was a lot of Christians that was in that field that tried to point to Jesus Christ.

00:28:34.840 But for some reason, they would all get cancer and die.

00:28:37.100 Wow.

00:28:37.480 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:38.200 And they all died of cancers.

00:28:39.480 so um the the problem that you find when you deal with spirits like that is it's one thing to talk

00:28:49.640 about it then you monetize it so now you're financially in partnership with them and they

00:28:53.920 they become your substance so your wages are paid for them so that's a deeper level of a connection

00:28:58.200 they exalt you because you tell a story about them and you get exalted because you tell stories

00:29:03.400 about them so now your influence is due to them and the spirits that's behind them and

00:29:08.640 um it ends up being a bad deal for the for a christian because the one that's supposed to

00:29:14.080 provide all your needs through his riches and glory in christ jesus is god the one that's

00:29:18.300 supposed to exalt you is god the one that's supposed to give you influence is god and so

00:29:23.560 you're in partnership with spirits that are not of god and then you're prospering by them

00:29:30.800 and if i'm not mistaken the bible says um the spirit of the lord make it rich and add no sorrow

00:29:36.140 you got guys just for the people listening because i've studied the word this way it comes out without

00:29:41.240 like chapter verse but it is the spirit of the lord and maketh rich and add no sorrow and so

00:29:45.520 what it tells you is that other spirits will make you rich they'll make you prosperous but they'll

00:29:49.280 add sorrow to it wow so you'll find people having sorrows added to them as they prosper outside of

00:29:55.320 the lord now why people do that is because it's sometimes it's easier because god will tell you

00:29:59.840 sit you're behind still jane tell me all the time james sit down don't do nothing you can't do no

00:30:03.200 work this week i'm like yo that's gonna cost me like three thousand dollars big homie you don't

00:30:08.060 just didn't still do nothing big dog that's gonna cost me three thousand sit down all right and then

00:30:13.600 you in obedience you get a reward for being obedient and then in that in that week where

00:30:17.540 you didn't do anything he's like i need you to study this this this this and what i found is

00:30:22.440 in that obedience is when i grew for whatever challenge he had coming you know what i'm saying

00:30:29.040 like i'll give you guys an example and then we go back to the monsters or whatever y'all want to go

00:30:32.260 I was in Fredericksburg

00:30:35.120 when I'm taking a shower.

00:30:38.680 It was crazy

00:30:39.380 because I had a glass of wine in the shower.

00:30:41.740 I'm sitting there, my fat behind

00:30:43.460 dripping wine in the shower.

00:30:45.820 My phone

00:30:48.100 is playing Alex Jones.

00:30:50.020 I hear Alex Jones saying, yeah, this guy

00:30:51.880 dark waters and he's da-da-da-da-da.

00:30:53.940 You know, he got that raspy voice.

00:30:55.320 Then he plays my video. I'm like, what the hell?

00:30:58.140 Why am I? I'm hearing my voice.

00:30:59.580 It's my video playing. I come out the shower, dry off,

00:31:01.560 drink a little bit more wine look like this boy alex jones just promoted me right so i go out the

00:31:06.280 first thing i do is i go outside it's about 11 30. i go out into this field that they have out there

00:31:10.840 and i start talking to the lord i pull a chair out there they got this place it's full of people

00:31:13.640 outside party pull a chair and i sit down i say okay what is going on with this you got to tell

00:31:19.800 me why this is happening because i ain't do this i ain't never asked to be on this man's show right

00:31:23.720 and um just so people know alex jones is kind of the highest level of mountain influence for

00:31:29.160 for Christians. There's two high levels of amounts of

00:31:31.020 a Christian. It's Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson, right?

00:31:33.160 So I'm sitting

00:31:35.160 there, and I'm like, all right, you got to talk to me. What's going on?

00:31:37.120 He'll say, I was like, no, no, I need to know

00:31:38.980 right now. And so I start justifying my

00:31:41.100 request for scripture. About five minutes

00:31:43.080 passed, and he says, I need you to

00:31:45.120 tell him A, B, C, D, E, F,

00:31:47.300 G, and there's nobody that's going to go tell

00:31:49.200 him. I know you'll go tell him. I was like,

00:31:51.120 well, let me go get a pen. So I run back inside,

00:31:53.220 grab a pen and pick my wife. He's like, what are you doing? I said, I'll be back.

00:31:55.180 So I'm sitting there writing stuff down. You are

00:31:57.200 a watcher. The

00:31:58.940 watchers work is this this this this this this this this this and he said now wait a couple of

00:32:04.040 days he said i want you to fast and pray like all right so i go back hang out with my wife hanging

00:32:08.660 out chilling when the time comes he says time to start fasting pray i stop boom start fasting and

00:32:12.800 praying go on to the show the very first show was a hit and i get the word to him that the lord

00:32:18.160 wanted me to get to him but prior to that there was calls where he was like nope you got to fast

00:32:23.540 on every thursday and you got to study this on every thursday but the study was all about

00:32:27.620 the role of a watchman so i knew what to say because i studied it then i got commissioned

00:32:33.020 to go do it and so what ends up happening is he'll slow you down he'll give you some training

00:32:37.920 he'll give you a commission he'll send you on a mission you accomplish a mission awesome then

00:32:42.460 he sent me back with another mission where the battle axe came and it was the timing was perfect

00:32:47.480 because after the battle axe came was when him and trump and all the rest of these people started

00:32:51.660 beefing but if you go back and you notice when that happened in that context alex was just like

00:32:56.880 yeah he was cool because he had already got a word through me from the lord not a word from me

00:33:01.300 like i'm god but the lord had a servant that can go say what needed to be said and that's irregardless

00:33:06.180 how people feel about the man some people don't like the man it's not about that it's about

00:33:09.740 understanding the lesson of what the lord does with you so all the people in the chat if you if

00:33:15.840 you talk with him he's going to train you up he's going to give you a commission and give you a job

00:33:20.000 and send you on a task to do it because that's what the assignment was when jesus left that's

00:33:24.240 what he told the disciples to do that's great okay there's there's a couple of things i want

00:33:29.060 to address there one of them is uh i want to get your thoughts on this idea of like making an altar

00:33:34.580 out of cryptids you could do the same thing it sounds to me um with with conspiracies and um

00:33:43.700 there are people in the space who you know the the conspiracies become their bread and butter

00:33:50.480 This is something that we actually started to move away from on the show, which is this like constant need to unpack a conspiracy or have a great big conspiracy.

00:33:59.940 I don't think there's anything wrong with something coming across, you know, your table when you and you have a stirring in your spirit that this thing that's happening on the world stages is wrong or there's something worth digging into.

00:34:11.300 But there are some people go ahead.

00:34:12.640 It's a reason why we don't seek to go on many more shows.

00:34:16.840 Like when you go on a show, it's very much you go on and you have a topic of expertise and you present it.

00:34:23.380 Here's my topic. Good, sir. Yeah. What does your audience think about this?

00:34:27.200 Yeah. And it's like, I don't we're not going to go and necessarily do a study on a thing unless we're cold to it.

00:34:33.920 Yes. Yeah. It's a lot of like waiting, waiting. I guess it is. Yeah.

00:34:39.360 In the meantime, it's just us doing whatever. Maybe, you know, we're doing some fun stuff or, you know, we'll do interviews.

00:34:45.360 but nothing really drilled deep down and serious because we're in a state of, all right, what next?

00:34:52.300 But then when that thing appears, when it shows itself, we're like, okay, that's it. Pick it up.

00:34:57.160 Let's move.

00:34:57.660 I recognize in other individuals this uncanny ability, which I have some admiration for.

00:35:03.160 I don't think that it's a negative thing inherently.

00:35:06.740 It's not within me though, is to just kind of decide to do arbitrarily a deep dive on a thing

00:35:15.060 and dredge up all this information and then do a presentation on it uh that's not in me so

00:35:21.040 oftentimes if we get invited on a show we'll go like what are we going to talk about and

00:35:24.620 you know a lot of the times we end up talking about our own testimony which is

00:35:28.640 all of that revolves around god so i think in the same way that you can make an altar out of

00:35:34.300 cryptids if if any of these conspiracies are truly the machinations of of satan the adversary

00:35:39.800 and that is what you are making your bread and butter off of in that way james does is it the

00:35:48.340 same situation where like therefore satan is sort of kind of the adversary is what you make your

00:35:54.260 living off of is is once again it's it's it's even a kind of a you know uh a narrow line to walk

00:36:04.000 because you should bring attention to these things and and they are useful to to show people like hey

00:36:09.040 this is the state of the world, but this is, if you're pointing back to Christ, this is what you

00:36:12.760 should be oriented on. But there is another thing that happens where you could become enamored.

00:36:17.540 And in fact, beyond enamored, in order to make this thing, make money and keep going,

00:36:22.940 we got to keep hitting these conspiracies. What's the next conspiracy? What's the next big political

00:36:26.720 thing that's going on? I'm with you. And so what you're talking about is, I like to call it the

00:36:32.280 battle of fishermen, right? So Jesus, he chose the fishermen for a reason, because you are fishers of

00:36:38.620 in right so and just so anybody who's listening who's got any kind of podcast that podcast that's

00:36:43.660 a christian in the context of exploring a conspiracy you're exploring a conspiracy but

00:36:50.860 you point people to jesus what you're doing is you're going into the territory of conspiracy

00:36:55.820 so it's a spiritual territory of conspiracy just imagine a city right and they got the walls and

00:37:00.780 they got the giant gate that rolls up and you walk in you look around and it's illuminati signals

00:37:05.260 everybody everywhere people's like oh the illuminati the illuminati and you go over here

00:37:10.020 and it's jfk files like oh the jfk files and you go down this aisle there's like a guy's over there

00:37:15.360 with a penis yeah it's q anon street and you're walking down q anon street and you understand

00:37:20.140 that biblically there was a city that was like this that paul went to i'm trying to remember

00:37:24.180 the name of it but it was on i think it was athens because athens had all these different gods

00:37:28.140 all the statues of gods everywhere right you're walking in and this all this stuff is around

00:37:34.400 but in that space in that city are people who accepted jesus christ their lord and savior

00:37:39.940 they went to church they did all these things but they're in that space and they're in that space

00:37:45.180 and jesus is saying hey hey james uh hey hey dave y'all go over there and y'all grab the boys out

00:37:51.860 they didn't lost their damn mind they lost their damn mind over there on that q anon street well

00:37:56.640 my lord you know they believe this q anon stuff that's all right that's all right you know about

00:38:01.200 q anon not going in there and take what they know but point it back to me and if you go back and you

00:38:07.480 look at what paul did paul said to the greek i'm a greek to the jew i'm a drew a jew um because his

00:38:13.880 job was okay i'm gonna go in and i'm gonna spread the gospel of our lord and savior jesus christ so

00:38:17.680 he went in to spread the gospel and so people think it's like uh as long as your heart is

00:38:24.200 pointing towards the Lord and shape of Jesus Christ and point

00:38:26.140 people towards him, you're going to be fine.

00:38:28.020 Now, the person who's there just

00:38:29.980 purely for profit, purely there

00:38:32.040 to get notoriety,

00:38:34.440 they're going to get

00:38:35.180 their reward for it.

00:38:38.000 And there ain't nothing you can do about it. That's why I don't worry about

00:38:40.040 the people. You know what I'm saying? Like, I already

00:38:42.060 know what your reward is for that.

00:38:44.140 You're going to get your reward. And what you'll find

00:38:46.060 those people doing is they'll have this thing where they'll go up

00:38:47.980 and they'll go down, and they'll go up, and

00:38:50.000 they'll go down, and they'll go up, and they'll go down.

00:38:52.240 For us, it's

00:38:53.280 pew and then it levels off and then it levels off and that leveling off place for us is us

00:39:01.520 learning before we go to the next level so yes people do build alters to all types of subjects

00:39:06.880 and all types of things and those are spiritual alternatives and then people build physical

00:39:10.800 alters to different spirits entities and creatures that make deals at them but alter is a place where

00:39:15.200 you make a transaction and that is the inherently a transaction being made where oh i talk about

00:39:20.320 i don't know i talk about uh you can pick the wildest thing i talk about frequency right and

00:39:27.020 all i talk about is frequency well okay whatever's at that or whatever spirits is the one that

00:39:31.960 sponsors these conversations and frequencies i'm making a spiritual exchange with that spirit

00:39:35.980 every day to get money for promoting that spirit and bringing it forth to other people on to to

00:39:41.880 worship it because worship is nothing more than getting attention so yeah that's that's what

00:39:46.520 people end up doing that's the and for anybody who decides that they're a christian now everybody

00:39:51.800 that's christian should be some have some form of influence on your job on online like the guy

00:39:58.720 that you guys are with who has a coffee shop where people come in i said you know like his business

00:40:02.740 is an altar where people come in and encounter the lord so everybody should have some form of

00:40:06.800 influence because according to revelations we've been made kings and priests on the god so you have

00:40:10.500 the priesthood where you serve god in prayer and minister to him you have kingship where through

00:40:15.520 your kingship you're active and influential in the world to point to the kingdom of our lord and

00:40:19.900 savior jesus christ and pull people into the kingdom and every time we turn somebody from

00:40:24.080 their wickedness is counted as righteousness unto us so it's it's a good thing it's just the

00:40:29.360 knowledge that you have to have when you're you're doing it am i making sense yes yeah it's something

00:40:34.560 else that i wanted to say is that um you know you you had this hand is you've been in this for uh

00:40:40.700 am i am i short telling you yeah 11 years 11 years so um you helped to establish an entire

00:40:48.620 genre of content uh you named a couple of guys that came before you and and since then that

00:40:54.180 entire genre and i don't know how you would what you would call it necessarily but it is kind of

00:40:58.860 some summarized as encrypted and spiritual encounters that are focused on jesus christ

00:41:04.700 Like that is the moral of every encounter, I think. And so you helped to flesh this entire thing out. That was huge in my walk. It's actually what brought me here. And I don't remember how much we talked about it on your show, but I, you know, had been into conspiracy for a long time.

00:41:23.160 It wasn't until I had my own encounter and out of desperation was forced to call on Jesus Christ to make it stop that I became, you know, obsessed for a time with looking for other people who had had similar experiences.

00:41:42.280 And I ended up stumbling into the arena that that, you know, you helped create along with these other guys.

00:41:50.020 And once I had that, once I saw that you were talking about data and correlation and graphing

00:41:54.540 all of these things, these commonalities between one person's experience and another,

00:41:58.840 I was listening to this testimony.

00:42:01.060 I'm doing the same thing.

00:42:02.100 I can see the patterns emerging.

00:42:04.340 And it's anecdotal.

00:42:05.900 And in that way, you kind of said before, it's hard to debate because what you're effectively

00:42:11.420 doing is saying, this person has told me this thing.

00:42:13.900 But what people don't understand is that there is precedent for once you have enough patterns

00:42:19.280 compiled, you know, together, you can start to really seriously entertain them as being

00:42:24.860 representative of maybe a greater theory. And that theory, in this case, being spiritual warfare,

00:42:31.760 right? So people are having these encounters. There's a spiritual nature to them. This is

00:42:36.740 spiritual warfare. And the way to cut through this is Jesus Christ. That is the way to arm yourself

00:42:43.040 when you know having these encounters all of that puts me in this chair it puts it it is the way

00:42:50.820 that i meet top and it is the the beginnings of of what we start doing here i just find that

00:42:56.920 remarkable because i never stopped and thought about that entire genre of content creation as

00:43:03.680 as this industry it's a new thing probably in very many ways right uh for christianity um and

00:43:12.260 certainly a new thing just in in this um lens there's always been spooky ghost stories as you

00:43:17.980 were talking about before but to slap this biblical lens on it and to look at everything

00:43:22.920 through that is a rather new phenomenon um maybe 15 years old tops and that certainly doesn't

00:43:29.760 account for all of the height of its popularity it's only really reached this hyper sort of

00:43:35.440 popular place that it is now culturally in the last well it's 10 yeah i guess like 15 years old

00:43:41.160 but realistically this should have this was the common way of thinking like biblically seems like

00:43:47.080 that these characters were looking at the world around them the way you do james and it's like

00:43:53.160 it oftentimes it gets me to really wonder like well what the what happened like how did we lose

00:43:58.360 sight of that because once we once we started doing this like we started this as like a conspiracy

00:44:02.900 show comedy show like we're doing like all kinds of stuff and uh as a christian that starts to

00:44:08.620 leaking and then you see some other stuff and you're like wait a second and and it's it's a

00:44:13.140 tool that now we're holding for the last two or three years and i'm like yeah i'm not going to

00:44:17.200 put that down yeah this tool seems to be very useful this lens for everything that i'm doing

00:44:22.620 here how did it get discarded in the first place have you have you ever like looked through that

00:44:27.780 through your uh through your studies why did people drop it it boils down to the way satan

00:44:33.100 attacks men and the things that satan does to attack men if i'm not mistaken it's ephesians

00:44:39.140 uh ephesians 118 and it talks about the eyes of understanding being uh the eyes of your

00:44:47.560 understanding being enlightening that ye may know what is the hope of his calling and what the

00:44:51.140 riches of his glorious inheritance is in the saints and she just shows you that there are

00:44:55.800 certain people who eyes have been darkened so what and that comes over generations watch this

00:45:01.680 so you can have if you go back and you look at most extremely extremely liberal people and just

00:45:08.260 to be clear if you're a liberal person i'm not attacking i'm just going to use you as we're

00:45:12.240 going to put you on a table and dissect you like a like a little lab rat real quick you go back

00:45:16.600 two generations it's either their grandparents or their great-grandparents that were hardcore

00:45:21.100 christians right and then through time that family moves away from the lord and so there's a

00:45:27.280 generation whose spiritual eyes are darkened right and that's so because satan sits out like he's an

00:45:32.720 ancient and the demons are ancient spirits they sit there and say oh this generation is not gonna

00:45:38.140 work on them this dude pray too much we're gonna come back in 50 years so they come back this

00:45:42.920 generation here they're still praying we're gonna keep on we're gonna try and plant some seeds come

00:45:46.740 back in 20 years oh we done had a baby out of wedlock let's work on this one and so now they

00:45:50.940 start working on them darkening the eyes of their council and that person goes into a place of

00:45:55.480 ignorance. And what ends up happening

00:45:57.500 is from that place of ignorance, boom, you're

00:45:59.420 off to the races. And now the kingdom of

00:46:01.460 darkness is partnering with you and doing

00:46:03.520 things. One of the things that I found

00:46:05.540 in my data was the majority

00:46:07.340 of people who had these encounters, overwhelming

00:46:09.420 majority of these people, like 79%

00:46:11.480 of these people who had these encounters,

00:46:13.400 excuse me, they were of

00:46:15.440 a generation of family members that were

00:46:17.240 hardcore Christian and they had turned away from

00:46:19.340 the Lord.

00:46:20.840 Completely, excuse me. He had completely turned away from the Lord

00:46:23.380 and they went to

00:46:25.200 alcoholism drug abuse hardcore fornication adultery all the rest of these things now if you

00:46:32.440 if you that's just kind of a micro cosmonism of communism of it but if you go to the macro level

00:46:38.840 you'll see that same pattern across all things it's just that you found yourself in this little

00:46:44.160 bitty town of cryptids of monsters that's your little bit interest area but in that space is

00:46:50.580 where the spiritual warfare started and where the suffering starts and then from that suffering you

00:46:55.420 got two things that can be birthed the fruit of righteousness can be birthed because you can turn

00:46:58.800 and go back to the lord or you're gonna get paid the wages of your sin which is death and so i would

00:47:04.160 say all the time i'd be like hey guys you know those of you watching these cryptic stories i need

00:47:07.840 you to understand you're on the last stop at a train station it's the last train station online

00:47:12.640 and it's dark outside and there's a little bit of light bulb there and the train is about to leave

00:47:17.660 You need to get back on the train and go in the opposite direction and don't go any further, because only thing you can do is walk off into darkness.

00:47:24.800 And I'm not sure if you're going to make it back from that darkness.

00:47:27.660 And people be like, oh, man, this dude, he always talk about Jesus.

00:47:30.860 OK, don't listen to me, because you found yourself in a very unique place in that place.

00:47:37.600 If you get on a train and you go back and this this doesn't just count for cryptos, this counts for people who got sleep paralysis because they were using drugs or any kind of supernatural negative thing.

00:47:47.660 It's like an alarm bell going on, danger, danger, danger, danger, right?

00:47:54.660 You can get back on the train and go back with the Lord, or you can stay right there.

00:47:58.740 And now that's when the wages start getting paid, and the wages are sitting in his death.

00:48:02.600 So things start dying first, then you start to die.

00:48:06.420 And when I came to that understanding, I was like, all right, Lord, we got to do something different,

00:48:12.280 because I can't keep leading people to die, because that blood is going to count on me.

00:48:16.480 he's like lead him to the lord and i was like well how we do this do this this this this let

00:48:22.160 bring my name up talk about me and i'll do the rest and so i was like okay you're gonna do the

00:48:26.620 heavy lifting and so he's i'll use your voice and i'll bring people to conviction and i'll do this

00:48:30.700 he's like you got a storytelling gift do this this this this so that's what i did man and that's what

00:48:35.120 i did and i'll just say this to everybody out there um those of us who are off the beaten path

00:48:41.700 who've experienced weird freaky stuff you have a unique advantage over kind of the average person

00:48:48.720 who's in the like let's say somebody who's in the bloodline generation of the second generation

00:48:54.400 uh away from a heart like their grandparents were hardcore christians or their parents are

00:48:59.440 hardcore christians and they still are under the prayers and covering of what their parents did

00:49:04.140 so they can go through life and they'll be like oh my god i've never experienced a demon i never

00:49:08.980 had anything and they just think it's something they did it's because the lord honors their

00:49:13.200 parents and or their grandparents but you may not be under that same covering you may be at that

00:49:19.260 fourth generation this is why we have this thing called the fourth turning and because it's a huge

00:49:23.640 thing but nonetheless you may be under that fourth generation where your family's been going downhill

00:49:27.140 with the lord and now you're getting hit what the lord is doing is he's trying to raise up a priest

00:49:32.100 in your bloodline to save the rest of the bloodline so you can be a priest for good or you can be a

00:49:37.360 priests for bad that's gonna be your choice and what i found is that a lot of those eyewitnesses

00:49:42.320 were being pushed to be priests for good and then when you started digging into their personal

00:49:46.560 business i had a questionnaire like okay do you ever do any magic sorcery divination oh i play

00:49:52.160 with tarot cards do you ever do this this this oh yeah i play with spirit boxes have you ever done

00:49:58.580 this this this oh i do this i'm like uh okay so now the priesthood is active which is a demonic

00:50:04.340 priesthood is acting there'll be people like bw playing with terror cards and not demonic go the

00:50:09.020 lord said it is i ain't the one that made the rules he said that not me take that up with the big man

00:50:13.920 so they find themselves in this place where it's one of the priesthoods going to rise or the other

00:50:18.960 and if the righteous priesthood arises then righteous altars arise in the family and the

00:50:24.220 family's saved when wicked priesthood arises then wicked altars arise in the family and family goes

00:50:30.380 down i met a guy named brian cashman i shouldn't well whatever i'm not supposed to say his last

00:50:39.640 name brian is from a thousand year christian bloodline his parents his family been christian

00:50:48.140 for a thousand years brian cashman feels like an alien walked into the room when he walks into the

00:50:52.960 room before i met him the guy was like hey james you know brian's really weird he gives off this

00:50:59.480 weird vibe you know he's real happy he's real content and da da da da when the kid pulled up

00:51:04.960 outside the house i felt him i was like what is that i'm sitting i'm sitting in the back i'm like

00:51:12.140 what is that and i said oh this to do brian and i tell the guy i said hey brian's here he's like

00:51:17.860 how you know i said because i can feel him he's kind of like what the hell you talking about this

00:51:21.560 how strong the presence of favor or the lord was on this kid comes to the door he comes in he's got

00:51:26.240 his backpack got a little flute hey guys how you doing blah blah blah blah blah not an insecurity

00:51:32.080 in the world not a care or concern in the world not a fear in the world just pure power hey how

00:51:39.420 are you i'm brian hey brian i'm james he shakes my hand wow that's amazing i haven't felt anything

00:51:44.880 like that since i talked to my grandfather wow that's crazy he holding my hand like yeah i've

00:51:49.560 never felt anything like you and we just having this alien conversation from a christian perspective

00:51:53.240 and people like what the hell are y'all talking about because you can feel the spirit of the lord

00:51:57.540 on i can feel the spirit of the lord on him he can feel it on me and what ends up happening is

00:52:01.760 if you could sustain that bloodline that's turned to the lord then all the problems and issues of

00:52:07.840 the bloodline gets repaired and so when people find themselves on the dark end they can start

00:52:13.680 turning back you may not be able to fix it all in your lifetime but you could fix a lot of it

00:52:17.540 wow your children's children are much better i'm sorry no this is incredible i think sustaining is

00:52:24.140 is not the correct word because i i've met people like that man i think i think that there's like a

00:52:28.960 there's a constant building upon and i like i'll tell you a story when i was a younger man i was

00:52:35.520 i don't know 18 to 20 or whatever i got kicked out the church i have a lot of animosity toward

00:52:40.400 the church and it was like whatever it's a whole thing but i had met people like that and i remember

00:52:46.560 this is this is horrific to say but i'm just going to tell the truth i remember having to

00:52:51.200 fight back this feeling of like not liking that person because i like you can feel that coming

00:52:56.580 off of them but it's not it's not them being unlikable it's whatever whatever i am it's the

00:53:02.960 contradiction of where i'm at you know what i'm saying yeah yeah versus what i'm seeing or my

00:53:07.820 spiritual eyes are seeing where they're at and like then i meet these people later on in life

00:53:13.340 Like I met this guy, Jeremy Chotala, which probably shouldn't say his name either, but whatever.

00:53:17.840 He's like, he was like, you know, one of these young worship leader guys.

00:53:20.940 And at the time when I met him one foot out the church, ready to go.

00:53:24.820 And I was just like, this guy is the worst.

00:53:30.500 Always happy.

00:53:31.660 And you're like, I'm going to, I want to choke him.

00:53:35.460 I met him.

00:53:36.200 I met him, you know, maybe I met, I saw him again a couple of years ago.

00:53:39.600 Same energy.

00:53:40.640 Yeah.

00:53:40.880 and his dad's a preacher and all that i don't know about the rest of his lineage but you can imagine

00:53:45.440 and when i met him again i was like oh like that kind of feeling i was like oh man jeremy like

00:53:51.220 that's nuts it's interesting to attribute that thing but go ahead i'm sorry yeah it's just the

00:53:55.980 same thing coming from him probably even stronger yeah but for me my disposition was changed toward

00:54:01.160 that so i was like it almost offended your sensibilities before it offended me yeah well

00:54:05.680 like get this get this away from me how could somebody be like this yeah you know and then

00:54:09.560 afterward i'm like how could how could you not be like this you're seeing something beautiful you

00:54:13.880 know yeah yeah i you know what you're talking about too james on that idea of like the last

00:54:20.000 stop cryptids and and these spiritual encounters being the last stop but there's a little light on

00:54:24.880 you're sitting at this at this you know bus stop in the dark and you could turn towards that light

00:54:29.880 or you know you're right there you're you're at the at the cusp of it it's so sad most of these

00:54:34.040 people i don't like they don't know that they're at the last stop or second last stop and they don't

00:54:39.080 know that they can even turn around because we've spoken to so many of them and they were like well

00:54:43.160 i guess i'm like like the people who keep rebuilding in tornado valley like i guess

00:54:47.620 i'm going to rebuild you know yeah yeah it's like no you could leave you don't have to be there

00:54:51.380 anymore yeah but it's not an option to them that you can't see that what is what is remarkable

00:54:55.580 though is it's in some ways almost a mercy that god uh it's like for me i consider it a mercy

00:55:03.220 because um god like allowed me to see this thing and i had enough information and then i was faced

00:55:12.780 with whatever this phenomenon was you know at the time that's kind of was my thinking whatever this

00:55:17.560 phenomenon was and um and i think in that way you know it's almost like a doubting thomas thing like

00:55:24.120 god uh treated me like i was someone who needed to see despite all the information that i had

00:55:31.000 gathered and all the sleuthing that I had done as a conspiracy theorist. And so much of it points

00:55:37.540 straight back to Jesus. I needed to have this experience in order to turn around. And so I

00:55:44.520 think in some ways that's why these ex-occult members or ex-witches have the most powerful

00:55:51.860 testimony because they're so familiar with it. If your bloodline is saved and you're still under

00:55:57.880 the prayers of your parents and god is honoring those prayers and you've had a life where you

00:56:03.260 didn't experience these things like that's one way to be but i i wouldn't change what i went through

00:56:10.320 and i think very much um you know that idea of being a priest in your bloodline my bloodline

00:56:18.200 has got a pretty retarded priest but here i am and my bloodline was previously practicing

00:56:24.220 all kinds of goofy crap well right this begs the question for me because uh i am i'm concerned i

00:56:32.260 guess most people are concerned about like you know i've got kids and i'm building we have a

00:56:38.260 house we have stuff for them later and then they're gonna have to get their own stuff but like

00:56:42.580 i'm concerned about building the next step in this temporal realm for my kids my parents have

00:56:49.460 built a step and then I took that step and I've done better. You know, previously my parents came

00:56:54.640 from Puerto Rico and came here with nothing, lived in the projects and my dad was a mailman

00:56:59.900 and now I do better than him and my kid does better. And we're like, okay, we have a pretty

00:57:04.340 decent format laid out for that here on the physical realm. Yeah. Right. As long as I can

00:57:12.520 keep my daughter off the pole and my son off drugs, they got a pretty good shot at taking the

00:57:16.660 next step maybe and doing something great and that's like what we're pushing them toward but

00:57:20.820 spiritually that fills me with a lot of concern because it's like i can build as much as i can

00:57:28.200 here but there is example after example after example i think most of the chat that you're

00:57:32.780 seeing and most of the fans of this show are this generation that you're talking about that have

00:57:38.340 this uh well which way western man yeah yeah most of them stood at that bus stop most of yeah most

00:57:43.740 of them are experiencers and they keep coming back here because we keep pointing at the same

00:57:47.920 thing and they're on board and it's exciting that they're on board but like like we've essentially

00:57:52.820 been knocked to this this level one of spirituality it's like how do you build that for you like when

00:57:57.960 i'm dead and gone what can i do for my grandkids like can can i can i plant a tree that firm in

00:58:05.820 the ground yes what are your objections man so watch this so um and i can't see the chat guys

00:58:12.780 anybody saying anything in the chat two things thanks for the best the first thing you do for

00:58:17.740 your generations is as you rise up in your priesthood and you're to be clear priesthood

00:58:22.220 to god is ministering unto god in prayer what it means to this people don't talk about this

00:58:27.740 what it means to minister unto god is when i'm in the phase of ministering to god i'll be outside

00:58:32.380 at 12 midnight and i'll be like lord you are beautiful you are powerful you are gracious you

00:58:36.380 are glory for you are the god of my family you are my king you are my lord you are my savior

00:58:41.500 i'm exalting him it's almost like you can call it like you buttering him up this is what people

00:58:46.380 will say but i will sit there for hours and i will just exhaust everything i think about him

00:58:51.100 and tell him everything like i'm getting holy ghost chills now when i said that i'll exhaust

00:58:54.140 everything i can think about him everywhere i feel and i'll go back and say you're the

00:58:58.060 god that kept me from getting hit with the bullets on such and such street you're the

00:59:01.500 god who gave me the forty thousand dollars when things were going bad and i thought it was the

00:59:04.860 end you were this you were this so ministering to him is that the next thing is praying to god

00:59:09.660 that prayer is where the intimacy comes from so that's how you rise up your priesthood right if

00:59:14.140 you do it consistently over and over and over and over and over again same time or multiple same

00:59:18.460 times a day now you're erecting an altar to prayer to the lord because what happens is he expects you

00:59:23.380 to be there at that time there are angels that are expecting you to be there at that time like

00:59:27.400 mine one of my times is 3 p.m when 3 p.m hit my ears started like and i was like well lord i'm

00:59:34.520 coming when this is over right but i know 3 p.m i didn't have to look at the clock i knew it was

00:59:38.040 3 p.m. because there's an expectation, hey, where's James at? He's supposed to be at 3 talking to me,

00:59:41.460 right? Then the next thing is your children, you sit down with them, and you teach them the Word

00:59:46.800 of God. The Bible says train a child up in the way he should go, and when he gets old, he will not

00:59:52.100 depart from the way. I think that's it. When you say train a child, most people think train a child

00:59:57.780 is teaching them how to wash dishes. They think it's teaching them how to cut grass, but it's

01:00:01.260 actually training them in the ways of the Lord. So you sit down with him, you give them the wisdom

01:00:05.020 from proverbs imagine your your son understands the spirit of offense he understands provoking

01:00:11.740 experiences uh spirits he understands jezebel he understands ahab and jezebel he understands

01:00:17.900 the viathan and he's 19 years old going into the workplace everything that would stress a 19 year

01:00:23.740 old or out or 20 year old and turn them away from the lord they're prepared for it so when they walk

01:00:29.100 into their job and their boss is like i get over here right now with your stupid behind i told you

01:00:33.900 dude they're gonna be like hmm this dude is a provoking spirit i'm not about to let this dude

01:00:37.420 provoke me you know sit back and chill and be like well you know the judgment because he knows

01:00:40.540 the judgment of a provoker is everybody turns against them yeah so everybody around them they

01:00:45.260 provoke it and so what ends up happening is that knowledge is passed on through your bloodline

01:00:49.580 so you sit down and teach your kids that's one of the things that christians don't do they

01:00:54.300 outsource the teaching to bible study or they consider taking their kids to them with at church

01:00:59.660 on on sunday where they take the kids outside of the kind of the big room where everybody is

01:01:05.160 and put them outside on the playground that's not rearing a child up kid need to be sitting

01:01:09.820 there hearing the word right and so that's the next phase the next phase you go to is you work

01:01:15.120 out a covenant with the lord you work out a covenant like i my business is in covenant with

01:01:19.780 him so i don't get to decide certain stuff i don't get to make no decision on like today

01:01:24.060 if i'd have been busy like lord i'm busy no no son this is what we said we was gonna do

01:01:27.980 and so then you hash out a covenant with him which is an agreement you already got a covenant which

01:01:32.820 is the blood covenant of jesus christ you ask out an additional agreement lord if i do this then you

01:01:36.860 do this and how do we work out this this this and then you include your bloodlines and your

01:01:41.120 generations under that covenant with him but i'm gonna do this right here and lord i'm asking that

01:01:46.700 you do this this this this for example people don't understand the united states of america

01:01:51.200 the reason why united states of america is so prosperous is because the founding fathers

01:01:55.900 dedicated this land to the Lord, not the founding fathers, the people who landed here

01:01:59.620 dedicated this land to the Lord. America is a nation that's in covenant with God. It's an altar

01:02:05.540 to God. You go back and look at the 1607 prayer from Reverend Hunt. He says, and I'm paraphrasing,

01:02:13.220 we hereby dedicate this land and the people of its shores to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ,

01:02:19.440 to rearing up generations of children after us, who are exporting the gospel of Jesus Christ

01:02:25.880 across seas and i'm paraphrasing it and to bring in the gospel of jesus christ to all the people

01:02:31.620 on the shores of this nation that's creating the covenant with the lord then you go look at what

01:02:37.100 george washington said same thing and so the founding fathers where everybody said oh the

01:02:40.780 illuminati's and they're masons and they weren't christians it's a funny that that attack was put

01:02:45.440 on them but when you go back and read their writings like ah this looks like a whole bunch

01:02:48.900 of christian writing they refer to jesus a whole lot but nonetheless the reason why the nation

01:02:53.420 was so prosperous was because of that now have we done wickedness absolutely but why is the

01:02:58.460 wickedness done against this nation is to destroy the covenant so for example a christian nation

01:03:04.220 that's been a christian nation right before the 250th anniversary of that nation like five years

01:03:11.080 before the borders opened up and brought all kind of people in with other religions and other fates

01:03:15.320 well the covenant was we're going to spread the gospel of jesus christ to all the people in the

01:03:20.140 shores of this nation and they did that now you're bringing a whole bunch of other people to bring

01:03:24.440 in their other gospels to bring other faiths and other religions i'm saying all that to say this

01:03:27.540 that those are the three phases that you go through hash out a covenant with the lord the

01:03:32.220 other thing is you work for him right so your gifts and talents go to him so there's so many

01:03:38.840 people that i've launched like youtube channels for and sat down and consulted and said okay you're

01:03:43.840 gonna do this you're gonna do this this is how you launch a podcast is how you do this and the

01:03:47.040 Lord was like, no, never say anything. Don't say nothing. Just give them a thousand dollars,

01:03:52.600 launch them and go. And I'd be like, hey, you know, that thousand dollars could have put some

01:03:57.040 ties on the car, man. You know, no, son, do this. And so now your talents and your abilities go for

01:04:02.760 him. And what happens is the people that I've launched, they're the people that they say count

01:04:08.780 towards my account in the kingdom. The people that they reach count towards my account for

01:04:13.020 righteousness in the kingdom so that's why i launch as many people as i can i'm shooting

01:04:17.340 arrow because i understand how it works so for you guys it's a couple things like i heard you

01:04:22.540 guys talking last night about the guy at the church that wanted to meet with y'all go meet

01:04:26.140 with him tell him hey man i can't do no podcast for you though but i can show you how to do a

01:04:30.780 podcast and go about your business and then let all the people that come in through that from

01:04:36.300 you helping them count as righteousness towards you in the kingdom and then you do the next one

01:04:40.300 and then the next one and then the next one and you'll see that as you do those things lord just

01:04:46.140 continue to bless you and bless you and bless you because his ultimate goal the reason why jesus

01:04:50.520 christ died was so that no that all could be saved and everybody would have everlasting life

01:04:55.860 you know i'm saying so he wanted people to be saved that's his objective that's for people not

01:05:00.220 to go to hell and so when you're in line with that objective and your bloodline is in line with that

01:05:04.720 objective everything else is added on to your bloodline might make a sense yeah it makes a lot

01:05:09.980 of sense but i think what i'm missing what i was missing is uh i don't know i don't i don't like i

01:05:15.080 don't feel comfortable like like being like if you do this then if i do this then you do this but

01:05:20.460 that seems to be the way god works yeah i mean that's what it says i know i know it's just i

01:05:26.940 i hate doing that it feels yeah it feels wrong it feels like who am i yeah yeah but but

01:05:34.540 i i think he likes that because it seems he seems to respond to that and go okay yeah we'll do that

01:05:39.380 but it's like yeah my my life with what i what i do i'm like what what more could i do what more

01:05:44.940 can i do that's aiming at god and sometimes it's like stupid things like i don't know people like

01:05:48.740 why are you playing guitar at this church and i was like i don't know it's just a little thing

01:05:52.720 and it's more like here you go but now i gotta ask like if i do this then will you do this and

01:05:59.380 And not just not for like, you know, money or whatever it is, but it's more for like, when I'm gone, will you take care of the rest of this?

01:06:08.220 That's that's actually like a meaningful ask.

01:06:10.340 And I think I'm going to start asking that like every time I do something.

01:06:13.500 That's interesting.

01:06:14.580 Like, because that's really what I should be worried about.

01:06:16.940 That's like, you know, we work hard and we do a lot of stuff.

01:06:19.200 And it's like it's the passed down mammon to my kids.

01:06:22.560 Yeah, they don't starve it or whatever.

01:06:24.400 But it's like that's the best I can do in this body.

01:06:26.520 I like what he's saying particularly about, because my skill set is very limited, but I do this. So why couldn't I help other people who are oriented towards Jesus Christ do the same? And, you know, we help as far as like advice goes. And, you know, we helped Matt, Matt helped us and we created this thing. And now, you know, together, straight Bible is happening and people are getting scripture and getting it unpacked, which is fantastic.

01:06:53.720 but like yeah we should be doing more of that okay because because i sometimes am sitting here

01:06:59.680 like i don't know what i do well but i also want to know what i should be doing that please what

01:07:07.020 you guys do well i can tell you right now so you could train people on not only um how to speak in

01:07:13.900 media how to set up a podcast but you can also help them develop a media personality because

01:07:18.760 you guys have very strong personalities let me get back to what you were saying top so

01:07:22.200 you're talking about you feel like it's a trans it's being transactional with the lord right

01:07:26.780 so it's kind of like if i do this you do that right but i wouldn't do that to my wife you know

01:07:31.280 like it seems weird but but salvation was a transaction yeah jesus christ's propitiation

01:07:38.840 not only for my sins but the sins of the entire world yeah jason meaning ransom a payment so

01:07:44.080 it's not that you're being transactional with the lord like lord if you don't do this i'm gonna do

01:07:49.120 this if you don't do this i'm gonna stop no lord i want to make a spiritual transaction with you

01:07:54.100 lord this is what i'm offering now people in darkness they understand this they'll go offer

01:07:58.060 the whole damn bloodline to a mermaid spirit to offer my firstborn son my firstborn grandson and

01:08:05.460 i want you to make me rich right and christians hear this all the time and they're like yeah you

01:08:12.820 know the people the witches dedicate they all i'm saying is this hey lord this is what i want to do

01:08:18.560 give you your word this is what you did for abraham this is what you did for isaac this is what you

01:08:22.480 what we got to do for you to do this for me we'll let you know i'm going to serve you and

01:08:28.640 i want some protection i want my bloodlines you know cleansed i want to make sure that

01:08:32.480 witches can't marry into my bloodline right i want to just listen this is what i want to do

01:08:36.800 propose to the lord he'll come back and say yes or no it may take him a while but i know from doing

01:08:41.520 it and making a covenant and uh adding amendments to the covenant to adding this to the covenant

01:08:46.640 to add this to the cover every time he like okay i like that but i hold up my end of the bargain

01:08:51.740 which is hey son you told me whoever i want to bless i can bless through you whoever i want to

01:08:57.420 save i can save through you whoever i want to help i can help through you that's how broad mine is

01:09:01.700 so i could be sitting in the car with five dollars in my pocket with five miles of gas hey james give

01:09:07.520 that lady five dollars really lord you know i got five dollars left get a lady five dollars ma'am

01:09:13.600 here you go then i'll go to the gas station somebody be like hey let me just pay for your

01:09:17.760 gas for your tank up the lord is telling me to help you i'll be like boy boy you know you something

01:09:21.900 else lord you you know what i'm saying but that's my agreement whoever he wants me to help i'm a

01:09:28.080 help because he needs people that are vessels that he can function through and so that's the

01:09:34.180 that's what he wants and through that vessel that lady getting that five dollars i don't know what

01:09:38.500 that $5 meant, but I can guarantee you that lady had just said, Lord, I need help. If you just give

01:09:44.300 me $5, I could do this. He was like, oh, really? I'm going to take you up on it. James, you're

01:09:48.240 driving right by giving that $5. Bing. And she probably was like, what? I just asked for that

01:09:52.080 $5. This is crazy. But he has a vessel that he can function through that can fulfill that need

01:09:58.500 for that individual. So yeah, don't feel bad about it. And everything is a spiritual transaction,

01:10:02.860 man like i did a video on this today about um provoking spirits and how we were provoked into

01:10:11.160 the iranian war well when you find yourself being provoked or incited or moved in a different

01:10:17.280 direction you just made a transaction with that spirit it was why when jesus met satan on the

01:10:22.180 mountain and satan was trying to make an exchange with him if thou be the son of god turn this stone

01:10:28.140 in the bread jesus like nah homie no no man shall not live by bread alone but every word that

01:10:33.500 proceeded about the mouth of the lord trick back up off me homie because he was trying to make a

01:10:37.500 transaction right with jesus so he can say yeah yeah i you know you listen to me so since you

01:10:44.300 listen to me you are serving the mind and jesus like nah dawg that's not how man throw yourself

01:10:48.300 off this mountain because because the word of god says that the the the lord the angels won't let

01:10:52.940 you dash your foot upon a stone man get behind me though you retarded that's fake with yourself

01:10:57.500 you get behind me retard i'm going about my business that's what he said so when you

01:11:02.300 understand it's a person that has a pornography habit that's spiritual transaction a person who

01:11:07.980 has a hardcore drug habit you making a spiritual transaction the whole real spirit realm works on

01:11:13.820 legalities and transactions and so once you understand that what's wrong with you making

01:11:18.380 a transaction doing business with the lord man that's what altars are there for that's why you

01:11:22.300 have an altar of prayer if you go say lord god i've been suffering and my car's broken and i

01:11:28.300 really need you to help and i'm not being mocking you're just like lord don't want to help me with

01:11:31.400 my car because this this this this this what you think happened you had faith you showed your faith

01:11:36.180 in the lord by going to him and then somebody just pulled up and changed the tire on your car because

01:11:40.200 you had a flat tire that was a transaction that just happened with the lord your currency was

01:11:45.260 faith and that's what it is that's why watch this that's why these spooky people you're sitting in

01:11:51.500 bed at night and you're laying there and you feel something sliding under the covers then your right

01:11:55.740 butt cheek gets squeezed and it starts to spread the cheek you're like what the hell going on

01:11:59.740 in the name of jesus you acted on faith yeah so faith is your currency now here's the craziest

01:12:08.860 thing ladies and gentlemen we are god's currency so he wants to spend us on people like this quarter

01:12:15.500 right here you can't really see this but who on the quarter what's his dude name uh whoever's on

01:12:21.020 the quarter it's got the face on it right it's not george washington i don't know

01:12:32.380 there's an image on the money right we're made in god's image and likeness so what he wants to

01:12:37.900 do is spend us to bring more people into the kingdom you are his currency wow i'll be like

01:12:42.300 okay guys spend me what you want to do go do this all right let's go and let them spin you you know

01:12:48.380 know so so sorry i feel like every every time he talks about it's like it is this like principle of

01:12:54.680 of just asking or like being like yeah i want this now you know and yeah you see people like

01:13:00.760 god he's like let's build something let's do this but i mean you see people do this in real life

01:13:04.380 where they go they just ask people stuff and you're like that was really forward i can't believe

01:13:07.500 you just asked and then they get it yeah and then they get it yeah and it's like i don't i hate it

01:13:11.940 operate i hate operating like that closed mouth doesn't get fed kind of a deal yeah but then i

01:13:16.740 don't know like i that's not my personality type i like i work as hard as i can yeah but you know

01:13:21.800 what what was matt reading from scripture the other day about the the servant who uh got the

01:13:26.540 provisions that he needed and then he and he buried him yeah and then he was called wicked for it

01:13:31.560 yeah yeah it's true so like we got all this spiritual cash i'm like i'm not cashing out

01:13:37.180 i'm just kind of like i'm just gonna work harder and and i mean you should work right like god

01:13:41.920 wants you to to work and build things but yeah faith faith is the real currency you know these

01:13:47.100 these people um uh that are in the occult now i don't want to keep you too much longer james i

01:13:52.060 know you don't have his prayer time i'm very sorry about that you got to go i got till four o'clock

01:13:55.940 we good don't worry we good i was writing a note because stuff being told i'm skipping stuff and

01:14:00.400 i'm supposed to say i'll just write a note go ahead okay so so you know these occultists and

01:14:04.480 these wiccans and everything they understand the the currency the exchange uh that the spiritual

01:14:10.820 realm operates off of a lot better than other people and i would argue a lot better than like

01:14:15.780 sort of lukewarm christians who are just going through the motions understand and i was i was

01:14:20.680 listening to this woman on a on a previous episode and she was talking about how she was a witch we

01:14:26.440 just i just picked the clip because it looked like it would be interesting we talk about it on our

01:14:29.780 show and i and we ended up watching it and finding this woman who she's a she's a witch a practitioner

01:14:35.520 her and and someone came to her for a cleansing long story short she couldn't do the cleansing

01:14:40.280 because the woman who wanted the cleansing had entered into an exchange with a spirit and owed

01:14:47.540 a blood debt and until that blood debt had been paid she couldn't do anything and she knew she

01:14:53.540 knew about the blood she understood how it all worked and wasn't willing to break it or pay it

01:14:58.380 and and because of that her son was now suffering like that you know the debt was going to be

01:15:03.540 collected in one way or another and it was like they're using the same language and christians

01:15:08.780 will say this all the time the debt has been paid it's like yeah that blood debt has been paid and

01:15:13.100 we were brought so so god does this sacrifice right and and there is this ultimate price the

01:15:21.920 purest sacrifice the best sacrifice he does it better than any of these other entities or anything

01:15:26.800 else can and then what does he use to to that that currency on he uses it on us to buy us so

01:15:34.660 that woman even though she's having this conversation and she's like oh there's a

01:15:37.680 blood debt that's owed and everything like that debt has been paid yep and that's what she doesn't

01:15:42.220 realize it's it's it's actually remarkable because they understand these principles

01:15:47.660 and they're using the same language but that woman could be freed of that if she accepts

01:15:52.960 jesus christ and pleads the blood of christ over this situation like this bond can be broken she

01:15:58.580 no longer owes that debt that debt has been yeah but she'd have to submit to something she had to

01:16:03.240 submit to something but right now her son is suffering because of this debt and it's like

01:16:07.400 the like what i really appreciate about this conversation james is is not only for myself

01:16:12.820 but i imagine there's a ton of listeners who are going to hear this this this way that you engage

01:16:18.360 with God is hugely important. And I feel like even so many of us who call ourselves Christians are

01:16:25.600 are missing that. I mean, it baffled us as how to go about it, because it's not it's not how you

01:16:31.660 operate in this world. Yes. But but but occultists know how to do it. And witches know how to do it.

01:16:37.860 And all these different, you know, people who are practicing divination and this and that they know

01:16:42.660 how to do it. They don't have Christ in their life. Right. So they're missing this huge fundamental,

01:16:46.980 but they speak the language they know how to do it and just hearing the way that you're laying it

01:16:51.640 out is like man it it makes so much sense as yeah as a matter of fact before i walked out of the

01:16:57.760 house today i saw um these two papers because my my aunt had came from coney island and she was uh

01:17:06.380 she was like married to the pastor but she now i don't whatever she came and she dedicated my

01:17:10.640 kids a couple of years ago and i saw the papers of the dedication and i looked at and i was like

01:17:14.160 that's stupid i just i don't know it felt weird but like as we're talking about this now i'm

01:17:20.480 thinking about those papers like yeah that's a legally binding paperwork dog i should probably

01:17:24.780 frame that it's a legally binding paper that i gave my kids to god yeah and at the time it was

01:17:30.480 just it just seemed like a prayer this was like i don't know years ago probably it's remarkable

01:17:35.220 that those principles have survived in the church but how many of us don't even she's i don't even

01:17:40.480 think she's aware of that right like what does that even really mean to contextualize it or to

01:17:45.120 put it into practical use maybe she does because she printed it out and mailed it from new york

01:17:49.340 to florida to me so it's like obviously it meant like she understands the ramifications of it i

01:17:54.020 wish that she would have explained it yeah because it's a well if you were were you even ready to

01:17:59.700 hear it okay yeah i don't know i don't know man watch this guys let me let me jump in right here

01:18:05.300 yeah go ahead so there's a point there's this cycle and let me talk to the audience all right

01:18:13.000 so i just i just want to get their response i don't know how old everybody is but if you got

01:18:16.840 somebody my age which i'm 49 all the way down to their 20s we can talk about this cycle right so

01:18:22.480 there's this cycle that we go through as men and women in life so at a young age we think we know

01:18:27.540 what's supposed to be done we know what's right we go out we march into the world and then we hit

01:18:31.980 a peak and then we crash and we circle back around and then we hit a peak and we crash and we circle

01:18:36.260 back around by the time people get to be about 50 60 years old they've come to the understanding

01:18:41.240 that number one they don't know what to do number two they don't know how to do it number three

01:18:46.320 they're not good at doing it and number four they need help the reason why people come to that

01:18:51.400 understanding is because of god has made executive decisions about their life so there's the executive

01:18:59.120 of court of heaven and that's where god the father and the son they make all their decisions they

01:19:04.480 decide what your anointing is what your what they want you to do for your life an executive decision

01:19:10.240 was for example let us make man in our own image and likeness that was a decision that they made

01:19:14.560 to make man right angels ain't got nothing to do with that satan don't know nothing about it

01:19:18.960 it's just them right it's why satan lost at the cross because the bible says jesus christ was

01:19:23.840 slain before the foundation of the world so before he was anywhere around jesus christ was slain in

01:19:28.400 the spirit realm so he didn't know satan didn't know so he couldn't stop all right the bible just

01:19:32.300 for those who'd be like you don't know what you're talking about the bible says somewhere in the bible

01:19:35.540 it says for if they had known they would not have sacrificed allowed the sacrifice of jesus christ

01:19:40.280 but anyway the point i'm making is this there's these cycles that we go through and the cycles

01:19:45.800 are cycles of self where there's things that are broke off you like you most people believe that

01:19:51.880 they can do it like you know i won't do this because i could do it on my own i'm gonna work

01:19:55.980 harder, I'm going to work harder, things are going to work out better. But we were made

01:19:59.260 insufficient on purpose. This is one of the things that people come to really realize

01:20:03.960 when they have the paranormal cryptid encounters. You realize how

01:20:07.660 insufficient you are when something's climbing in the bed at night, when a shadow's walking in the

01:20:11.840 room, when somebody's like in your closet going, bleh.

01:20:18.040 You be like, oh, hell, what am I going to do

01:20:19.920 about this? So people who experience this stuff, they realize how insufficient they are

01:20:23.960 real quickly right and what ends up happening is those people who realize that insufficiency they

01:20:28.220 try and find some kind of solution some find Jesus some find witchcraft but you remember the story of

01:20:33.160 Jonah and God sending him to Nineveh it was God had a plan for him to go to Nineveh he didn't

01:20:39.720 listen he freaked out ran jumped on the boat the boat the waves started going crazy the people on

01:20:44.960 the boat they started saying well let's go talk to our gods our little g gods and see what's up

01:20:49.420 they come back their gods like I ain't got nothing to do with that who is it they go down to Jonah

01:20:53.660 say, homie,

01:20:55.060 why don't you talk to your God?

01:20:56.360 You down here sleeping.

01:20:57.180 We about to drown.

01:20:57.880 Talk to your God

01:20:58.580 and find out what's going on.

01:21:00.160 So Jonah's like,

01:21:00.780 well, it's my fault

01:21:01.480 because I was supposed

01:21:02.260 to be going to do this

01:21:03.200 and not God punishing their all.

01:21:05.160 And so all those people

01:21:06.220 on that boat,

01:21:07.200 this is what happens

01:21:07.940 when you allow yourself

01:21:10.340 not to follow

01:21:10.960 what the Lord wants you to follow

01:21:12.060 because either you're being hard-headed

01:21:13.440 or you don't know.

01:21:14.620 So it's better to spend time

01:21:15.660 with him early

01:21:16.120 to find out what he wants you to do.

01:21:17.960 And then if you're just hard-headed,

01:21:19.160 now you Jonah on the boat, right?

01:21:20.820 So what happens is

01:21:22.060 that all those people

01:21:23.140 who watch what you go through, they turn

01:21:25.080 to the Lord. Because they're like, oh man, this is

01:21:27.040 crazy. So all those people on that boat was turning

01:21:29.000 and praising the Lord, making sacrifice to the Lord.

01:21:30.860 Jonah's stupid behind, gets thrown off the boat, into

01:21:32.940 the belly of a whale. Then he writes this long soliloquy

01:21:35.060 like, if you know, hey,

01:21:36.740 if I pray from the belly of a whale,

01:21:38.960 you hear me from, you know, the seaweed is covering

01:21:41.000 me over, bada bing, bada boom.

01:21:42.600 The whale spits him up

01:21:44.900 right on the coast outside of Nineveh

01:21:46.860 and he's still got to go to Nineveh anyway, right?

01:21:48.860 Gets to Nineveh, the people listen, they repent,

01:21:50.960 they fast, the animals fast, bada bing, bada boom.

01:21:53.140 later on god comes and punishes them because they go back into wickedness the point i'm making is

01:21:56.820 this that there's a process in life and it's a part of men's life cycles where they have success

01:22:03.780 and then they have failure they have success and they have failure it could be an air it may not

01:22:07.220 be in all areas of life but you're going to experience in an area of your life in that

01:22:12.820 an area of your life is going to show that you're insufficient and that insufficiency is what ends

01:22:17.620 up leading people to god so when you hear people say stuff like well i'm not sure of this you know

01:22:22.900 i gotta do this i'm gonna do it on my own that's because they haven't come to the point

01:22:27.540 of understanding they're insufficient for me it was easy because i had to deal with hurricane

01:22:33.780 katrina i had to deal with divorce i had to deal with so much stuff all at once it's like

01:22:37.940 man i can't deal with none of this i got demons coming after me i got buildings flooding i got

01:22:42.900 you know so you could do it the easy way or the hard way you know and that's what i tell people

01:22:47.300 all the time do it the easy way now you can do it the hard way but you might you'll burn out

01:22:51.860 years of your life and you get to be 60 years old and then you'll come to the lord and now that time

01:22:56.980 has been wasted where you could have you could have skyrocketed and did so much for the kingdom

01:23:01.700 god but also thereby doing so much for yourself and um it's about understanding that you were

01:23:07.940 made insufficient on purpose you're made to be in partnership with the spirit and that spirit

01:23:13.460 is the spirit of the lord the reason why the demonic spirit and why the kingdom of darkness

01:23:17.620 and witches which they you understand that the average witch done read the bible five times

01:23:23.060 i know that to be true because i've been talking to witches and they'd be like well the bible say

01:23:27.300 this this this and i'd be like well yeah say this this this this this this i'm like damn you really

01:23:31.300 read the bible huh yeah i read it because they're forced to read it their system forces them to do

01:23:35.540 these things because the spirits that they have altars to punish them their systems are systems

01:23:40.500 of punishment you know what i'm saying we don't have that same system of punishment so people kind

01:23:44.740 of just la la la la i'm going to church on sunday i don't feel like going to church i'm not gonna

01:23:48.820 pray to jesus because there's not this system that's hardcore like that yeah and so essentially

01:23:55.220 guys it all boils down to god reaching out to you in every way shape or form the people in the

01:24:00.500 cryptid spooky paranormal field he reached out to them all the time he reached out and he's

01:24:06.580 allowing a lot of that stuff to happen to open their eyes allowing you why this demon in my room

01:24:12.100 because god let him in my room for me now if something weird happens i'd be like yo god what

01:24:16.320 happened what i did wrong or what's going on why you let this in here yeah just automatically why

01:24:21.040 you let this over here man what's going on yeah i ain't doing nothing what this is oh because this

01:24:25.640 this this because i need okay well you could have just told me you know what i'm saying you just

01:24:29.660 told me i would have did it but okay boom i'll go deal with the audience knows you weren't listening

01:24:34.460 i i had that happen and and shout out to laura baker uh because she does deliverance and there

01:24:41.600 was a time where i was pretty clearly being told to do something and i didn't uh i didn't do it

01:24:49.800 and then all of a sudden i'm very familiar with all the weird spooky stuff all of a sudden it

01:24:56.020 started happening again and it was pretty shortly lived before i drew the correlation like oh this

01:25:03.360 is disobedience like i've got to repent for my disobedience and that's one of the things i've

01:25:08.320 been struggling with lately is like uh i i you know matt was also reading scripture about it was

01:25:15.440 the same it was the same scripture and it was talking about being faithful with the small

01:25:19.920 things and then being entrusted with more and you know after displaying that faithfulness with

01:25:25.400 whatever small thing that that god has given you and um and i've been in a state of frustration

01:25:30.920 lately with my own self, because I can look through hindsight and see pretty clearly now,

01:25:38.400 which thank God that he's allowed me to see, because I think when you have a spiritual blindness,

01:25:42.840 that's often a punishment for not being willing to see the truth. And God will show you whatever

01:25:48.400 it is you want to see. So I'm pumped that I can see it in hindsight, but I can see it as like,

01:25:55.260 oh, there was these opportunities several times where God sent provision one way or another,

01:26:00.920 or told me to do a thing after i asked to be a servant and then i dragged my feet or i just

01:26:08.580 simply didn't do it or you know whatever just just any number of of things and then uh you know

01:26:15.020 i've got these questions about like well why isn't the the show where it should be yet or why isn't

01:26:20.200 this happening or why isn't that happening it's like well god has repeatedly come to me and given

01:26:25.040 me either a small task or provision to do something with and i've been retarded about it um but thank

01:26:32.280 god he's allowed me to see that but it's just been this thing that's been weighing not weighing on me

01:26:36.280 um it's this conversation i think that i've been having with god lately where i'm like

01:26:42.180 i see these things i'm i'm repenting i'm remorseful for these things i'm trying to

01:26:49.160 you know sort of rectify them but then you see instances of that exact behavior in the bible

01:26:54.540 uh you know it's the nature of us i suppose um but yeah all all of this is just hitting home in

01:27:02.440 such a big way as to how it works how the communication works uh what you're asked to do

01:27:08.040 what you should be doing you know i i like i said almost almost um foolishly i have this notion from

01:27:16.120 time to time like oh lord you know i i wish i could hear you more help me to hear you more help

01:27:21.240 me to understand what it is you want me to do and then i'm kind of smacked with the idea of like

01:27:25.180 you have been given a couple of opportunities to do a thing and you've not done a thing i got to

01:27:31.520 still bless me um but there's certainly a weird i know exactly what you're talking about it's a

01:27:36.780 weird spirit of like uh stupid god yeah you call it that but like like i've done it so many times

01:27:43.000 i've got the thing we've got the tool yeah to build what i need to build and then you go i can't

01:27:49.800 muster up the strength to do it right now or i can't muster up the just dragging the willpower

01:27:56.520 to do it like i'll do other stuff but then when i look at i don't know it could be anything in my

01:28:01.660 life i've got so many different things like tools that i need to use to build things that i want to

01:28:06.680 build that i know will be great yeah and then you look at it and and it goes oh it's like a daunting

01:28:12.300 i don't i don't know i don't know if i'm making sense here it's like no i'm heavy on you this

01:28:16.160 something we've not actually talked about yeah it feels heavy when you're like i don't know i'll

01:28:19.940 buy like a i bought that the very expensive laser printer sure sure yeah yeah for a long time i

01:28:24.820 didn't even hook it up because i would look at it and i go oh that would be it's heavy to hook up

01:28:30.180 man yeah and then i go i feel heavy because i didn't hook it up yeah and it's just something

01:28:35.020 on you and then you end up doing everything else but what you're supposed to do and there's so

01:28:40.120 many things in life that come through then they kick your ass until finally you go all right you

01:28:43.820 know what fine i'll do it yeah so so people jeep i said the spirit of procrastination and wade said

01:28:50.100 god staring at raven waiting for him to do something i have the amount of times i've come

01:28:54.820 to god because like i have this spirit of procrastination and it falls right under this

01:28:59.160 spirit of of of sloth right like there are these sins or these spirits that you know the sort of

01:29:05.360 like major categories that have subcategories and procrastination is definitely under there

01:29:09.360 And it's like, yeah, there's like a heaviness that prevents me from moving, and I can't do it on my own.

01:29:15.960 And so I asked for help, but it's just what's very clear to me is, and especially in this past week or so,

01:29:23.240 has been this kind of internal struggle with the Lord where it's like, hey, dummy, I've given you things.

01:29:29.120 I've given you things, and I've told you to do things, and you're not faithful with the small things.

01:29:34.160 And all I can say on that is like, thank God our God is a forgiving God and a patient God.

01:29:39.360 uh because you know i'm like getting my ass up and i'm i'm i'm doing it and but mcman uh humans

01:29:47.220 suck i suck in a lot of ways and and like you know and that's another thing i'm trying to do

01:29:53.500 too is like i can't do it i need i need god i can't do these things i need god but man the

01:30:01.300 watch this though watch this i'm we gonna call in a phrase y'all should write this book

01:30:05.320 retarded obedience to god man that's a bad y'all write a book retarded obedience to god watch this

01:30:13.140 people hear me say this on interviews and i'll be like yo i just made myself be a retarded

01:30:18.020 pertains to god i'm a very intelligent man but when god says do something i say i'm just gonna

01:30:22.420 be retarded like yesterday i'm sitting there and the book is sold and i'm having the conversation

01:30:27.560 well we need to do this course and blah blah blah blah blah what do you want to do what do

01:30:31.420 you want to price the course what do you want to do this what do we want to do this and he don't

01:30:33.900 saying that so i'm like are you not talking to me i'm gonna start doing the work right because i'm

01:30:38.640 i know that's the end goal so i started doing the work he said stop doing that work i was like well

01:30:44.900 we set this goal to do this this this no relax you need to do something else first now the normal

01:30:51.260 james williams the engineer says no this task is going to take me four hours to do i'm gonna do

01:30:57.080 this task in four hours and it'll be done but the retarded obedient person says well he said don't

01:31:02.740 do it so i'm just not gonna do it so now i'm sitting there doing nothing and i'm just like

01:31:06.720 okay so i'm not doing nothing what you want me to do and then a little while later a conversation

01:31:11.740 will happen where i would have been distracted where the guy needed to talk to me and they got

01:31:15.620 the phone with the conversation see if you'd have been doing that you would have took that phone

01:31:18.980 call and i wouldn't be able to help that person with that spirit offense to keep them from doing

01:31:22.960 this and i was like okay that's when i learned to just be retardedly obedient because it's a choice

01:31:28.380 so just retarded obedience you guys got a group called the y'all gotta call you listen to retards

01:31:33.440 everybody just be retardedly obedient to the lord you just get led and guide in the right direction

01:31:40.500 it's kind of like you just forrest gump but you forrest gump and he leading and guiding you

01:31:44.220 and then people like well how did you do that well i mean i'm just retarded i just do what he

01:31:48.040 told me to do and there's a safety in that because if i do what you told me to do hey i'm not really

01:31:53.360 accountable you told me to do that so i check with it make sure hey is this you or there's something

01:31:57.640 else trying to tell me to do something and it may even be a day where i take a day or so and be like

01:32:01.240 all right well make sure this is what you're telling me to do yeah that's what i'm telling

01:32:04.420 you to do okay i ain't even accountable for it no more because i'm just gonna go do it because

01:32:07.840 you told me to do it you're accountable for it let me go do it boom and i don't worry about it

01:32:12.560 that's huge that's huge this uh this conversation is well that's the name of the episode now i

01:32:19.120 retarded obedience to god i love that man i love that you know that's the spirit of the idea of

01:32:23.980 like dangerous retards is this idea of like if the if the status quo in the material realm

01:32:28.660 is satanic you know all these all these things that are constantly tempting you and you know

01:32:34.120 you're dealing with your own flesh and you're dealing with the whisperings of demons and

01:32:36.880 everything then it's it's inherently dangerous to that status quo to be oriented with god and then

01:32:45.040 the the you know it's dangerous retard so the the retard part is like yeah we deal in a lot

01:32:50.260 of information but uh more and more we try to move in in a in a spiritual way where it's like

01:32:58.160 you know you retard this idea of information you could have all the information you want

01:33:02.040 uh i'm not dealing in intellect you know that's not what we do so much there's times for it for

01:33:08.200 sure you know i'm grateful for the body of knowledge that i have on any given subject but

01:33:12.820 but mostly uh we're just trying to be moved by the spirit you know the holy spirit wherever it

01:33:17.720 wants us to go. We've been going an hour and a half. I want to respect your time, especially

01:33:24.060 with prayer coming up. I want to bring it back to the beginning, sort of in a way. We're talking

01:33:28.960 about cryptids and things like that. And I think the moral of that beginning section of this show

01:33:34.300 was these people that are indulged in this information or have dove head deep into this

01:33:41.460 world where they are now neck deep and they're swimming in waters that they don't quite understand

01:33:47.680 there's somebody that does come to mind and uh it reminded me of your story with the finger and

01:33:52.320 the throat and all that and i don't know how i didn't pick up on this immediately but uh

01:33:56.420 there's a guy nathaniel gillis oh yeah he's uh he's really he's great great investigator

01:34:02.060 researcher paranormal what would you call him like a paranormal scientist in a way he he's

01:34:07.420 yeah i mean he's he's blanket termed the entire spiritual thing the phenomenon and he's looking

01:34:12.880 at it from a bunch of different angles it's hard to say but so what you study exactly he's looking

01:34:17.660 at it, and some of his ideas

01:34:19.720 I think are correct, and they're

01:34:21.640 actually kind of, some of them are astounding, and

01:34:23.520 they've helped me, but the way

01:34:25.340 he's positioned is not

01:34:27.680 necessarily with Jesus Christ, and

01:34:29.740 you can tell that he's paid.

01:34:31.640 He's got a heavy spirit. He's not just a heavy

01:34:33.740 spirit, but he seems like he's paying like a

01:34:35.600 physical toll, and if I'm saying too much about it,

01:34:37.380 I don't care. I love Nathaniel.

01:34:39.520 It's not to get it twisted at all. Yeah, he was on

01:34:41.520 our show, and he was talking about

01:34:43.440 these things with us, and at one

01:34:45.500 point, he starts to choke

01:34:47.640 yeah during the show and he chokes for maybe 15 minutes he never recovers we actually have to

01:34:53.600 bring the show in for a landing yeah i'm watching him uh get like glossy eyed because he can't

01:34:59.740 swallow but he didn't drink anything maybe he didn't even eat anything maybe he had a sip of

01:35:03.780 water and it was almost like i if you could see into this if you had some decenian glass and you

01:35:08.920 could see something had its hand around his throat or in his mouth yeah like he was saying

01:35:15.640 earlier and was choking him as he's telling us this information he's revealing like the

01:35:19.520 the spiritual realm of like we're talking about aliens he's talking about the actual nature of

01:35:24.420 this stuff and he's pointing directly at it with great evidence but again he's he's like digging

01:35:29.460 through this stuff without he's almost doing it on his own right yeah completely on his own

01:35:33.500 on his own intellect without the protection of jesus and i don't i i like at the time like i

01:35:40.560 don't i don't even know how to like reach somebody like that because i know if i just approach

01:35:44.600 someone like that in a ham-fisted way it's going to be like shirked aside and i'll have done more

01:35:48.940 harm than good so i'm like reading the situation and i don't know but like i i don't know the best

01:35:55.400 i could think now is like say a prayer for him as we close out but it just reminded me as you

01:36:00.500 were told because that that again is the lesson of that story and even like the lesson of what

01:36:03.980 we're kind of coming coming into what we've come into with nds where it's like we talk about this

01:36:08.480 stuff but so what yeah you know it's interesting leave it at the door once this is done we've

01:36:14.620 pointed you in the correct direction but definitely know that that actually happens yeah yeah but go

01:36:19.440 the other way everything that you do it's like you're reaching into this dark you know these

01:36:23.260 dark waters and you're pulling out christ and it's like showing that to everybody that's that's

01:36:28.660 the goal yeah i think with with with all of this it took a while for me to realize that but it was

01:36:33.140 much like the conversation we had with timothy alvarino when when i was you know kind of giving

01:36:38.000 it to him. And he goes, look, the people who made the Age of Disclosure documentary aren't

01:36:42.200 Christian. That's why they're not mentioning these things. And I said, that's a mistake

01:36:45.340 to explore this phenomenon, right? To explore the dark beyond the bus stop, you know, or any of

01:36:52.180 these things without Christ, right? Christ is the lantern that lights your feet. Like without that,

01:36:57.140 you're screwed. You're screwed. And if you're really going to start delving into this phenomenon,

01:37:00.940 if you're going to start delving into aliens, if you're going to start delving into...

01:37:04.060 And the way this guy is doing it, the way that Nathaniel Gillis is doing it, I'm telling you,

01:37:07.420 man, it's like he's right up in these things face.

01:37:09.880 He's pointing at him, but he doesn't accurately.

01:37:12.840 And he's perceiving now the threat that comes back at him.

01:37:15.800 But you've got no recourse for it, you know, and it's it's it's sad.

01:37:19.940 But it's something I've been thinking about a lot.

01:37:21.640 Yeah. Thinking about a lot about.

01:37:23.240 Let me say this about that. I don't know the guy, but, you know,

01:37:27.420 there's a guy that you guys should have on.

01:37:29.120 I'm going to try and hook it up.

01:37:31.200 Justin Dudemeier is called the Blind Exorcist.

01:37:34.980 Actually, God's really cool.

01:37:36.060 and one of the things that he and i had a conversation about was soul ties because i

01:37:41.400 always thought a soul tie was you know you had sex with somebody you had a soul tie and i was

01:37:44.560 like you know break all the soul ties without strippers ever had sex with my life

01:37:47.620 so and um and he and i having this conversation and he's talking about my cryptic background and

01:37:58.740 he's like well james he said have you broken the soul ties between you and every entity

01:38:05.480 that the witnesses that talked to you were in covenant with i said yeah i've done that i said

01:38:13.420 but i'm about doing whatever we can break everything so then he starts going deeper

01:38:18.360 into soul ties and he says you know every time a person explores various different things and they

01:38:25.240 give it so much too much attention they start to create soul ties he's like you can have a soul

01:38:29.840 tied to a natural disaster which is a moment in time where you had trauma you can have a soul

01:38:33.640 tied to a person. You can have a soul tied to

01:38:35.620 a group of people. And so he starts breaking it down.

01:38:37.600 I'm like, whoa, whoa, hold on, buddy.

01:38:39.600 Hold on, hold on, hold on. What you're trying to tell me

01:38:41.660 is, I ain't cut everything.

01:38:44.020 I said, because I ain't know about none of that.

01:38:45.720 And I was like, we need to deal with this right now. And he was just looking

01:38:47.640 at me like, this dude is crazy. I'm like, no,

01:38:49.600 we're going to deal with this right now, bro. And he's

01:38:51.620 like, James, chill out, man. I said, I want to deal with it.

01:38:53.240 So we deal with it. Now watch this.

01:38:55.880 He leads me through it. And I could

01:38:57.660 have did it myself, but my thing is, you know, if this is what

01:38:59.580 you know, I'm, look, I want to be humble.

01:39:01.540 gonna be obedient boom he does it i agree with him as we do that the lord says turn your neck

01:39:09.540 to the right i turn my neck to the right i say hey man that pain in my neck is gone he said uh-huh

01:39:14.920 turn your neck to the left turn to the right i said lord you trying that the dude is talking

01:39:20.680 i'm in my brain like literally if you could see remember on the movie with vin and i've been

01:39:25.180 when vin diesel and they were fighting the aliens it's like riddick and they pull the soul out of

01:39:29.860 the person you see the person so my yeah would have came i've been looking up like this lord

01:39:33.800 you're trying to tell me my neck been hurting that long time because i didn't know about that

01:39:36.920 because that's what i was like this is crazy so for a man like him he's tied to all those

01:39:42.260 different things and it's like imagine you trying to walk forward in life this is what happens to

01:39:47.120 the audience that auntie who said something bad about you that brought you into offense you got

01:39:51.140 tied to that that mama or that dad who said you weren't good enough that coach that said you suck

01:39:55.600 the classmate who bullied you you got all these strings hooked to your back of you like a damn

01:39:59.800 like you stuck in a matrix and you now just have one thing in your head you got to alter your body

01:40:03.860 you just walking along slow like this like i'm gonna make it we're gonna make it and you're

01:40:09.400 wondering why things are going bad because you need to break all that off you and then you'll

01:40:13.060 notice once you break it off you're like man i broke that off me my knee stopped hurting i've

01:40:17.380 been sleeping better my head feel lighter and i feel clearer because you're carrying all that

01:40:22.100 spiritual baggage now you take the context of this guy and if i'm hearing right he's not a christian

01:40:26.880 but he's doing demonology if you're not a christian and you're doing demonology then uh you just going

01:40:34.180 into a hornet's nest and whipping out your penis and slapping on the hornet's nest with your penis

01:40:38.100 that's all you're doing like bro you just you just like african killer bees you're just gonna walk

01:40:45.820 up and just pow hit him with your penis what are you crazy nah bro nah because and then you have

01:40:51.500 entities that have standing

01:40:53.640 in the realm of the spirit.

01:40:55.960 So there's entities that are

01:40:57.440 princes. There are entities that are kings.

01:40:59.960 There are entities that are thrones

01:41:01.680 and dominions. They got legal

01:41:03.560 right to do what they do. And you're like,

01:41:05.620 yeah, I'm going to go in here and bully them. No, they

01:41:07.580 got a legal right to be where they at.

01:41:09.900 You ain't going in there messing with them.

01:41:11.720 If you don't even understand

01:41:13.200 the legal right that they have,

01:41:15.320 then you going in and messing with their agreements

01:41:17.460 and all the rest of their stuff. But legally

01:41:19.560 they're right. You wrong.

01:41:22.140 they're right yeah that person for example let's say you're going to try and cast a demon out a

01:41:25.980 person and that that person that demon has a legal stronghold on that family because great-grandma

01:41:32.380 went to the waters and said i'm gonna drown this baby in the waters and i'm gonna give this baby

01:41:36.780 to mama new the spirit of the water and you're like yeah i'm gonna go and i'm gonna deliver that

01:41:40.700 family from that but you're going without jesus okay i don't i don't know how that's gonna work

01:41:48.540 out i don't know how it's going to work out now maybe maybe he used the name of jesus i don't

01:41:53.340 know i'm not talking about you um mr gills bad because i don't know you the point i'm making is

01:41:58.460 in general that's not going to work out good you're going to have you're going to have all

01:42:02.620 that stuff attached to you and it's going to carry with you everywhere you go and then anybody you

01:42:07.100 come into covenant with is going attached to them and then there's just it just get bad now imagine

01:42:13.660 someone not mr gills but just imagine someone that has the same profile that goes from house

01:42:19.240 to house to house to house to situation situation situation situation and there's a crowd of a

01:42:23.520 thousand demons walking behind them and they bring a thousand demons to your house because

01:42:28.620 they're doing a paranormal investigation they didn't bring a thousand more demons to the

01:42:31.580 hospital they didn't bring a thousand man oh hell no yeah yeah you know uh that that's something i

01:42:38.000 was talking about the other day was uh there are instances that you can stop you know like let's

01:42:44.220 say a sleep paralysis thing or but but in order to be free and you never really i mean you're

01:42:50.360 always going to be influenced they're always going to be looking for a way that you sin so that they

01:42:55.140 can whisper in your ears so that they can pull on this proclivity that you have in that proclivity

01:43:00.180 But this spiritual rectification is a process. It's a process. And and like a courtroom, if you're not addressing various crimes or bringing this up to the judge or that up to, you know, your your defendant or this and that, it's just not going to get addressed.

01:43:21.960 And so in that way, I think it is dependent on what you've got going on. It can be a process of many, many years. I wonder, before we let you off the hook, James, do you think as you sever these ties and as you kind of clean house, can you perceive the Lord more clearly?

01:43:47.020 does your connection uh almost like a phone line does it get a little bit clearer does it get a

01:43:53.820 little bit louder as you start to remove some of these attachments yes there's less noise is what

01:43:59.740 you're talking about so when you when you communicate with the lord there's always there's

01:44:04.580 for me it's always been noise where i'm trying to talk to him and even it's like even in your mind

01:44:09.040 like you're in the middle having a conversation boom a distraction or try and pop into your mind

01:44:12.500 and it's like you're thinking of you talking lord the boom something pops into your mind

01:44:16.200 distract you and over time i train myself be like nah that's not real that's something that happened

01:44:22.200 to me when i was 16 years old that's a distraction lord i'm back to talking about this this this

01:44:27.240 what happens is as you go through this process of whether it be going into the courts of heaven

01:44:32.040 and working on sin iniquity and transgression through prayer just to be clear with you guys

01:44:36.520 the book about you've been served is about how to pray it's just how to pray prayers into the

01:44:41.640 the courts of heaven but outside of that as you start working through the holy spirit delivering

01:44:46.520 you and working on you and refining you what ends up happening is your brain gets more peaceful your

01:44:51.940 spirit becomes more peaceful you become more peaceful peaceful guys that book is 99 cent so

01:44:56.580 and i ain't talking about you yeah it's 99 cent so 99 cent yeah bro you ain't been watching my

01:45:02.720 videos like that was the biggest thing because i was like lord okay we got this book we're gonna

01:45:07.140 charge 12 hours for this book i've been working on this book i was like i rebuke you satan satan

01:45:12.660 the lord would never tell me 99 cents oh really 99 cent bro before i the reason why the book took

01:45:19.140 so long because i was like i'm a fast i'm gonna pray make sure this ain't satan trying to tell me

01:45:27.620 then one day i'm sitting outside i'm smoking a cigar i'm doing some work and i'm hearing 99

01:45:31.780 cent 99 cent real funny okay the book gonna be 99 cents wow watch this so the book goes to be 99

01:45:39.460 cent and i'm delaying remember you talk about the spirit of procrastination right so i'm like man

01:45:44.260 this book 99 cents don't make no damn sense i'm not putting this book out really not putting the

01:45:48.100 book out put the book out son i put the book out he says now send an email out about the book i'm

01:45:53.380 like a pouty kid i'm like damn 99 cent he go to email who good is and i'm like i'm going inside

01:45:59.780 at like one o'clock in the morning i just wake up i'm like okay there got to be a demon around

01:46:04.900 here i don't get woke up like that and the lord says go look at amazon pull up my phone my eyes

01:46:09.780 i got coal in my eyes i'm doing like this amazon bestseller wow i said why why did he said now you

01:46:18.260 got the bestseller rating he said so now wait till you get the two bestseller ratings he said

01:46:22.900 then i want you to teach a course and i was like oh so the course gonna be 99 cent too huh huh the

01:46:26.740 course gonna be 99 cents too he didn't say nothing so i was like well i work for you so whatever you

01:46:31.220 want me to do do it so it's but it's amazon bestseller number seven in spiritual warfare

01:46:36.340 ranking number one in prayer number it's ranked all over the place wow that's incredible that's

01:46:42.980 incredible man i would have never put no book in no damn 99 cents i was talking about it for like

01:46:48.900 a month i was like guys on the channel guys lord tell me this book need to be 99 that don't make

01:46:53.460 no damn sense and everybody's like damn you tripping like nah he's saying not and i'm just

01:46:58.260 just going off like man i'm like this is crazy but anyway one more thing i want to add about

01:47:03.700 those people guys that so you'll understand this and it'd be because it kind of can sit in your

01:47:10.340 spirit wrong when you see an individual who you know has an altar to another god leading christians

01:47:14.900 astray when you look at james 3 1 it talks about teachers and when you look at what he means by

01:47:20.980 teachers it's talking about not just men of god not just pastors but it's saying teachers if you

01:47:25.920 teach something then your judgment is the judgment of a teacher it's more harsh judgment so when

01:47:32.240 you're dealing with guys who um who are on the mountain of influence with you and you know their

01:47:36.620 teaching was not right know that their judgment is much more harsh than anybody else that's like

01:47:42.060 i can see somebody and they'd be like man james you saw this guy this guy was saying that the

01:47:45.520 holy spirit was is a demon i'm like yeah that's wow he gonna burn in hell not just go about my

01:47:51.400 business because i understand that the judgment of a teacher is more harsh so it's like yeah you

01:47:56.640 sitting around here call yourself teaching people and leading people and leading the flock and you

01:48:00.000 lead them to hell you're gonna get punished and so i just let it go and i don't worry about it

01:48:04.840 but it's something that'll help you guys and anybody else who's like when you see somebody

01:48:09.020 who's leading people astray including a christian then yeah the judgment's gonna be extremely harsh

01:48:14.580 on them. And so the judgment is kind of baked into the crime, man. Yeah. Uh, you don't play

01:48:21.000 with God, right? You don't want to, uh, you know, claim to be in alignment with the Lord

01:48:25.760 and serving the Lord and then be leading his flock astray. That's a, that's a lot worse

01:48:30.560 than being, um, you know, in cahoots with a, with a demon or something like that.

01:48:34.660 It's dangerous territory for anybody talking to us right now. So like, yeah, if you intend

01:48:38.960 to do this thing and intend to claim

01:48:41.000 God, well,

01:48:42.840 you know.

01:48:44.180 Just be reportedly obedient. You better be serious.

01:48:46.820 You know what I'm saying?

01:48:48.740 Yeah, amen.

01:48:50.500 Okay, all right. This is fantastic. I want to put a pin

01:48:52.900 in it right there, James. This has been incredibly

01:48:54.640 helpful.

01:48:56.460 Once again, the audience already

01:48:58.860 knows. James is one of my favorite people.

01:49:01.320 I'm glad that

01:49:02.560 God put whatever

01:49:04.860 notion in your mind to reach out to

01:49:06.620 us in the first place.

01:49:07.960 That was an incredible thing.

01:49:09.960 And I think only God could have done that because if you would have just been scrolling across our content, I'm sure you'd have been like, not these guys, Lord.

01:49:19.160 So I'm grateful for that.

01:49:20.800 Before we get out of here, James, let's remind everybody, where can people find all these resources?

01:49:26.100 We got to get more than a few of these books for the because we have a Christian library here in the back.

01:49:31.880 And and I would love to have the books here in studio.

01:49:34.600 So afterwards, I think we're going to have to hit your website and get a few.

01:49:37.600 But where can people find all this?

01:49:39.660 So go to I am James Williams dot com.

01:49:43.600 That's where you'll find what the book is.

01:49:45.260 You get the free e-book download on prayer.

01:49:47.320 I would encourage you to do that and get the little book for nine nine cent.

01:49:50.340 You can find me at Dog Waters on YouTube channel.

01:49:52.680 And if you look at the scary, spooky stuff is I am Dog Waters dot com.

01:49:57.840 I got a podcast that I launched, but I mean, I don't even know how to get to that my damn self.

01:50:02.020 But none of that. That's where all my stuff is, guys.

01:50:04.780 But you go to the website, you'll find all of it.

01:50:06.600 And I just want the audience to know, man, thank you guys, because I've watched your

01:50:10.780 audience, you know, in fact, it's crazy, because the Lord told me last night, he was, I'm at

01:50:15.000 Lowe's.

01:50:15.480 He said, put on such and such.

01:50:17.120 I'm like, man, I'm trying to get me a fan to put in the house.

01:50:20.240 He's like, no, put it on.

01:50:21.500 And if you go back and look in your comments, there's a point where it says, was my name

01:50:25.300 just mentioned?

01:50:26.220 And then somebody else, it was in the chat.

01:50:28.020 Somebody's like, yeah, they were just talking about this, this, this.

01:50:29.780 I was like, well, that's interesting.

01:50:30.520 That's wild.

01:50:31.200 I said that because I had just heard the Lord say, no, put on their podcast.

01:50:35.620 And literally, as soon as I turned it on, I think it was the other guy that was with you.

01:50:38.900 He was like, yeah, something, something, dark waters.

01:50:41.460 And I was like, this is crazy.

01:50:43.040 And I just put it in my pocket and listened and went on about my business.

01:50:45.840 And so it's just one of those things, guys.

01:50:47.300 I appreciate you.

01:50:48.040 I appreciate your audience.

01:50:48.900 I appreciate the opportunity to spend some time with you.

01:50:51.360 And hopefully somebody took something from it.

01:50:52.800 Next time y'all see me, I'm going to have them help me with my camera.

01:50:55.500 So I'm going to look like a full blue, blown repo.

01:50:57.960 And I'll see y'all on the next one.

01:51:00.620 I personally took something from this.

01:51:02.900 And that's that's always my prayer is, you know, whenever we're doing a show, even if it's one person, I say, ideally, Lord, you know, have have thousands, if not millions of people be helped by this.

01:51:12.360 But even if it's one person, we never really know what we're going to get into when we get on the show.

01:51:16.760 It's just one thing. If it's just one thing somebody heard, this is this is helpful to me tremendously.

01:51:23.300 And so and I already can see the comments from the chat. The same can be said for them.

01:51:28.380 So thank you, James. I appreciate your time. All right, guys, I'll catch up with y'all later.

01:51:32.060 Deuces. All right. All right. Until next time, guys, don't forget to obey, submit and comply.

01:51:37.140 We'll see you.

01:52:02.060 Death Squad

01:52:04.940 Death Squad

01:52:10.040 Never look

01:52:16.820 Death Squad

01:52:18.340 When the last trumpet sounds

01:52:20.420 And the heavens

Nephilim Death Squad - July 27, 2026

Retarded Obedience to God w⧸ James Williams of Dark Waters

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