Nephilim Death Squad - Revelation Series Part V w⧸ Ed Mabrie

00:00:00.000 We are being hypnotized by people like this, newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:00:14.460 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:00:23.400 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely ignored.

00:00:29.580 Oh yeah, dude.

00:00:30.820 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:00:32.000 It's like we all know what's going down but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.

00:00:37.500 These motherfuckers are controlling us now and no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves.

00:00:42.420 And everybody's just walking around and in the clouds I want to wake up to a dead in the grave.

00:00:47.860 But then it's too late.

00:00:48.840 We need to be ready to raise up.

00:00:50.680 Welcome to the end of day.

00:00:52.400 Everybody is slave.

00:00:53.820 Only summer away.

00:00:54.760 Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:01:00.600 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

00:01:04.280 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

00:01:07.760 Let me just say real quick.

00:01:08.940 Every single time that song plays, I looked at Ed again.

00:01:11.620 Now, Ed, you've been on like 10 times or something.

00:01:13.800 Every time it plays, I do the same thing.

00:01:15.020 I'm like, damn.

00:01:17.060 Yeah, I'm popping.

00:01:17.860 I'm digging it.

00:01:18.680 It's a bop.

00:01:19.520 It's a bop.

00:01:19.760 I love doing that.

00:01:20.460 Yeah, I watch the little windows before the show starts.

00:01:22.380 I'm like, yeah, everybody likes it.

00:01:23.600 Everybody likes it.

00:01:23.980 Yeah, no, the music is cool.

00:01:25.020 I like it.

00:01:26.100 This is episode number, I want to say five, of our Dissecting the Book of Revelation series

00:01:31.320 with Ed Mabry.

00:01:33.060 I know that Sundays are traditionally for the Lord, but we are taking Fridays.

00:01:37.420 Hold on, guys.

00:01:38.020 David's asking in the pre-chat.

00:01:39.760 He's like, is it five or is it seven?

00:01:41.440 And there's clearly a part V.

00:01:43.160 So I'm like, he just has no idea.

00:01:44.620 Like, Roman numeral.

00:01:45.360 Oh, my God.

00:01:46.040 It's right there.

00:01:46.700 I didn't even read it.

00:01:47.540 I can't read.

00:01:48.560 I can't read.

00:01:49.120 Those of you who have been following the Bible study, I've done one episode, and I was just

00:01:53.000 like, man, reading is hard.

00:01:55.100 Like, I don't know what the hell's going on.

00:01:58.220 So we have a tight hour and 20 today before we have to get out of here.

00:02:03.600 So, Ed, where was it that we left off on the last episode, and where do you want to pick

00:02:08.420 up?

00:02:08.940 Yeah, so last time we left off was with the controversy of the rapture, which is, again,

00:02:13.980 one of the most controversial topics in eschatology.

00:02:16.140 And before that, we went into another controversial topic, which was, you know, the synagogue of

00:02:20.760 Satan and who these people who say they are Jews but are not, but the synagogue of Satan.

00:02:25.220 So, yeah, we got into that because that was kind of wrapping up the church age.

00:02:31.560 And so this time we're kind of done basically with the church age.

00:02:36.200 And now we're going into, like, really, really serious supernatural stuff.

00:02:40.560 So it's going to be awesome.

00:02:42.300 I'm super excited.

00:02:43.400 I felt like, I feel bad that we had to take the week off.

00:02:45.820 But after the post, pre, mid-trib stuff, I was like, everybody calm down.

00:02:50.960 Okay.

00:02:52.120 Settle down.

00:02:52.820 Take a week.

00:02:54.300 Yeah, it's a lot.

00:02:55.660 I mean, there are no shortage of opinions about the mid, pre, and post.

00:03:00.940 So that's why I gave my, like, hey, you're all right.

00:03:03.420 So why are you mad?

00:03:04.540 Well, on that note, it looked like everybody was like, the way they received it was like,

00:03:10.080 oh, man, that makes a ton of sense.

00:03:11.880 It's hard to say that it doesn't make sense.

00:03:14.220 At the very least, you've got to give it that.

00:03:16.260 I see exactly where you're coming from because there's biblical precedence for all three points

00:03:20.860 of view.

00:03:21.120 And if that's the case, then maybe all three points of view are real.

00:03:26.300 So yeah, let the Bible be right and we be wrong.

00:03:29.200 Right.

00:03:30.020 It's funny, too.

00:03:30.760 Like I said, telling my wife that she's somebody who was never quite sure about the tribulation.

00:03:35.160 We met in church, so she knows all this stuff.

00:03:37.540 And I said, I'm talking to this guy, Ed Mabry, and she knows your name because I just keep

00:03:40.800 saying Ed, you know what he said last time, Ed Mabry?

00:03:43.400 And she's like, what the hell is this guy?

00:03:44.420 So I tell her and she's like, that actually makes a lot of sense.

00:03:47.940 And it's like, she wasn't fighting me at all.

00:03:49.960 But like, it's just been a wonder in her head the entire time.

00:03:52.700 Like, yeah, we don't really know.

00:03:53.620 But all three does make a lot of sense, especially the retarded people in the beginning.

00:03:59.240 That part, really, I like that part.

00:04:01.160 They go first.

00:04:02.140 Yeah.

00:04:02.880 The Down syndrome people get to go first.

00:04:05.020 I hope so.

00:04:05.780 I was watching a video of a Down syndrome guy with nunchucks the other day, and I was like,

00:04:10.140 God, I hope he goes first.

00:04:11.400 I hope he goes first, man.

00:04:12.760 This guy is fucking awesome.

00:04:13.980 All right.

00:04:14.260 So where do we, what do we want to get into today, Ed?

00:04:17.180 Okay, so today we are going to, we're going to go from earth to heaven.

00:04:20.760 So let me just go talk about where we, where we've been so far.

00:04:24.760 So we have the revelation of Jesus Christ.

00:04:26.740 So that's the lens we're looking at this book through.

00:04:29.180 We are at faithbyreason.net and on my YouTube channel, we have 60 episodes, but that's the lens.

00:04:34.260 This is Jesus being revealed, and it's being written down by the apostle John on the exiled

00:04:42.180 on the Isle of Patmos, and he, in the first chapter, he sees this vision of Jesus.

00:04:46.380 It's very symbolic.

00:04:47.180 It shows Jesus, you know, with white hair and a white robe and a gold sash, which represents

00:04:51.660 purity, his priesthood and his kingship, and he's walking among these seven lampstands,

00:04:56.680 and these seven lampstands represent the seven churches, and we talked about, I think in the

00:04:59.900 second episode, these seven churches represent all of the church age from the apostolic

00:05:04.200 age up until where we are right now, which is, I think, the last lay of the CNH.

00:05:07.820 And John was given an outline.

00:05:09.780 He said, write the things you have seen, the things which are, and the things which shall

00:05:13.380 be after these things, or the Greek word for after these things is metatauta.

00:05:17.740 So writing out what he has seen, that was a vision of Jesus.

00:05:21.120 The things which are, that is the church, and the things which shall be after these things

00:05:24.980 where metatauta is going to be after the church.

00:05:27.960 I brought that up because we're going to talk about Revelation chapters four and five today.

00:05:31.800 And chapter four begins with the words, after these things.

00:05:36.920 So metatauta.

00:05:38.500 So this is basically a part of the outline.

00:05:40.940 This is after the church.

00:05:42.240 So everything that's happening from chapter four on is the future because we're in the

00:05:47.320 church age.

00:05:47.900 So I want to make that clear.

00:05:49.680 And what's really interesting is the sixth church of the seven, the church of Philadelphia,

00:05:55.320 that was a faithful church.

00:05:56.840 That was a church that Jesus essentially proposed to.

00:05:59.300 He said, I'll give you the, I'll give you my family name.

00:06:02.100 You'll be invited to my house and you will live together forever.

00:06:06.560 And he said, because, because they were faithful.

00:06:08.600 But what he said is that there is, I'm putting before you an open door and inviting you into

00:06:13.320 my house.

00:06:13.960 And I, I want, I think that's interesting because of how chapter four starts.

00:06:17.580 It says, after these things, metatauta, I saw a door, I'm paraphrasing here as I'm not

00:06:21.920 reading it.

00:06:22.600 There was a door open in heaven and a voice said, come up here.

00:06:26.880 Actually, the voice says, come up here.

00:06:27.960 Then he sees this door open in heaven and he goes through.

00:06:30.440 So I don't think that's a coincidence that we just had the church of Philadelphia promise

00:06:34.680 an open door, promised to be led into the, into the father's house.

00:06:39.140 And then John experiences this.

00:06:40.840 So I think that this represents the rapture of that church because it's, he told the Philadelphia

00:06:45.860 church, because of your faithfulness, I will keep you out of the Greek word is ek, physically

00:06:50.540 removed from the time of trouble that is coming upon the earth.

00:06:53.860 So I, I think that this shows that the, I think this, this is the first rapture, the first

00:07:00.940 end times rapture.

00:07:01.760 And John is basically experiencing it because he goes into the spirit, into the throne of

00:07:06.120 God.

00:07:06.860 And there, I'm going to talk about a few reasons why I believe the church, the belief that

00:07:10.820 the believing church is in that throne room.

00:07:13.340 So one of the things when we, when we get to this throne room, we see a lot of things

00:07:16.420 I'm going to describe, but we see, you know, the father, the father, uh, God, Jehovah sitting

00:07:21.740 on a throne.

00:07:22.420 There are thrones around other thrones around him and seated on those thrones are 24 elders.

00:07:28.120 And then there are these, um, forward living creatures.

00:07:30.760 And then there are, we also see that there are seven lampstands in the, in heaven.

00:07:37.020 So what do we know of those lampstands?

00:07:38.620 They were called blatantly called the church.

00:07:41.140 They said that these seven lampstands represent the seven churches that was in chapter one.

00:07:44.560 And now that was on earth.

00:07:46.120 And now the same seven lampstands are now in heaven, in the throne room.

00:07:50.360 And if they represent the church, and that means that the believing church is in the throne

00:07:54.020 room of God after the church age.

00:07:56.060 And before we get to all the cataclysmic stuff, that's powerful, blatant there.

00:08:03.020 And then there's the identity of the 24 elders.

00:08:06.620 Um, I believe that the 24 elders represent the church.

00:08:09.300 There's some controversy around that.

00:08:10.740 Some say that they are, um, that, that the 24 elders are just, um, angels.

00:08:15.960 They're just a group of Elohim that are, have a high position.

00:08:19.020 However, we're going to see in chapter five that the, these 24 elders sing a song.

00:08:25.520 And they say that basically that, you know, blessed are you Jesus, because you have redeemed

00:08:31.140 us out of all nations by your blood.

00:08:33.380 Well, an angel can't sing that.

00:08:36.300 Yeah.

00:08:36.820 That would imply that he did not shed his blood for angels.

00:08:39.620 Angels did not come out of every, you know, tribe and tongue around the world.

00:08:42.940 These are human beings who were, who were redeemed.

00:08:46.560 So only a redeemed human being could sing that.

00:08:49.400 So that's why, that's one, another reason why I believe that these 24 elders represent

00:08:54.020 the church.

00:08:54.660 And, and there's another reason I'm going to, I'm going to get to a little later now, just

00:08:58.520 to be fair, there is a certain, there is one translation of this, uh, of, of

00:09:03.380 this section that says that the song is that you, Jesus, you've redeemed them by

00:09:08.780 your blood.

00:09:09.680 So it's talking to us about someone external.

00:09:12.200 However, again, that's only one translation.

00:09:13.760 And even if it is them, like, well, who's the, them that he's talking about there,

00:09:17.060 this is not on earth anymore.

00:09:18.200 So they're not talking, the whole scene has nothing to do with people on earth.

00:09:21.480 So he's talking about them.

00:09:22.660 There must be a them present.

00:09:24.500 But again, I think for this and many other reasons that I did 24 elders represent the

00:09:29.460 church, so let you guys chime in before I keep going.

00:09:33.380 I was, I was just going to say that it's really, uh, powerful symbology when you, when

00:09:38.540 like just painting it out again, when I, when I did read this, I was like not reading it

00:09:43.180 with, uh, open, like open eyes, but him sitting there with 24 around them.

00:09:47.740 And you said there's three other, other things.

00:09:52.460 What does that even look like?

00:09:53.980 There's seven, there's seven lampstands, right?

00:09:56.720 Literally all this stuff is literally, it's, it's kind of amazing.

00:09:59.100 I wanted to ask you too, Ed, um, so the, we mentioned dispensationalism early on, but

00:10:05.100 you think that, so in this seventh age, in this, in this last age, God will interact

00:10:09.900 differently with people.

00:10:11.260 Is that what that means?

00:10:12.480 Or like how, how he deals with them?

00:10:15.140 Right.

00:10:15.560 So when you use the term dispensation, again, that's controversial because, you know, there's,

00:10:19.380 there are certain, um, doctrines around so-called dispensationalism that I don't necessarily

00:10:24.660 agree with all of them.

00:10:25.660 So I'd like to just say that there had been seven eras where God interacts with people

00:10:30.220 differently.

00:10:30.700 He has different rules.

00:10:31.800 And I think we've seen them in the first age or dispensation.

00:10:34.180 You have the age of innocence where Adam and Eve, they only had one rule.

00:10:38.040 Don't eat on the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

00:10:40.180 Obviously we don't have that today.

00:10:41.280 So he's not dealing with us that way.

00:10:42.820 Then you had, you know, the antediluvian, the pre-flood period where, you know, he dealt

00:10:47.660 with men differently.

00:10:48.740 And then you have the, the time of the nations of the patriarchs, the third dispensation where,

00:10:54.580 you know, Jesus, I mean, she's where God dealt with people through, through the nations.

00:10:58.800 Then you had the dispensation of the law where that's, he dealt with basically the world

00:11:02.220 through Israel.

00:11:02.800 And now with the dispensation of the church is when the Holy spirit lives inside of you

00:11:07.400 and communicates with you that way.

00:11:09.240 So then I think that we're going to talk about this next time.

00:11:13.480 Next week, we have, if we can do this next week, we're going to talk about what I call

00:11:18.360 a mini dispensation, because I believe that, because we're going to get to the seven seals

00:11:22.760 and the four horsemen.

00:11:23.980 And I don't believe that those four horsemen are from God.

00:11:26.900 I believe they are actually a false apocalypse by Satan.

00:11:30.660 And it's going to be Satan's dispensation, but during the time of the tribulation, we're

00:11:35.920 going to, because the church age is going to be over.

00:11:37.740 We're going to go back to the dispensation of the law and, and, and God's going to deal

00:11:42.820 with the world the same way he dealt with it during the, that period of time when, when

00:11:47.080 Israel, when he dealt with the world through Israel.

00:11:48.680 So I'm getting ahead of myself, but that's, that's just a little preview of that.

00:11:53.460 Listen, again, it makes sense to me.

00:11:54.780 I know, I know it's like a hotly covered, a hotly debated subject of dispensationalism, but

00:11:59.180 it does seem like he is dealing, it seems like less and less direct all the way until

00:12:04.780 this last one is going to be very direct.

00:12:07.460 Yeah.

00:12:07.820 It's going to get, yeah.

00:12:09.460 Cause again, in this age, he's communicated through the Holy Spirit before that he communicated

00:12:13.320 through the law.

00:12:14.240 And before that he did communicate directly, he talked to people, but then he stopped and

00:12:17.680 he just, you know, only dealt with them through as nations.

00:12:20.100 And he did this again, as a response to what human beings did, not because, you know, he

00:12:24.480 decided he just didn't like talking to us.

00:12:26.300 He, everything that God does is a reaction to what we do.

00:12:31.280 He adjusts his, you know, his way of dealing with us based on what, you know, what we say.

00:12:35.180 Oh, you're going to, you want to be a nation now nations.

00:12:36.960 Okay.

00:12:37.120 Well, I'll deal with you through nations.

00:12:38.180 So, and it's, we're going to go back to that because the church age will be done.

00:12:43.480 You say, you don't want to deal with me, the Holy Spirit speaking.

00:12:45.700 Okay.

00:12:45.920 Well, Holy Spirit is going to be taken out.

00:12:47.300 And now we're going to go back to the way it was in the old Testament times.

00:12:52.660 Beautiful.

00:12:53.180 Okay.

00:12:53.800 All right.

00:12:54.000 Yeah.

00:12:54.120 Let's, uh, Dave, any questions?

00:12:56.040 No, I, right now I'm entirely out of my waters.

00:12:59.360 And so I don't, I don't have a thoughtful question.

00:13:01.940 I'm only listening.

00:13:02.780 Okay.

00:13:03.180 Okay.

00:13:03.800 All right.

00:13:03.960 Let's keep moving.

00:13:04.360 I know we got a tight time.

00:13:05.540 We got a lot I want to cover.

00:13:06.600 So, um, so what's, hold on one second.

00:13:12.320 I get back.

00:13:12.800 Cause I'm, I'm actually have something up on my screen that I'm making sure that I'm staying on track.

00:13:16.760 So we have this, this scene.

00:13:18.220 So in addition to this scene, but the 24 elders and these thrown set up, you also have, um, these four creatures.

00:13:23.720 You know, if you have a King James Bible, let's say these four beasts, but not a really good term to talk about them.

00:13:29.060 We talk about them in that way to call them beasts, because that term beast is actually the Greek word zoa, which where we get the word zoo.

00:13:35.240 It just means a living creature.

00:13:37.580 Um, we're going to find the word beast throughout revelation.

00:13:40.420 We actually, we're going to see it a little later in this episode, but the, but, um, that term beast in a negative sense is the term theory on.

00:13:48.260 And that means, you know, a voracious wild, basically a demonic creature, but that's not the word that John uses when he says he's four beasts or four living creatures.

00:13:56.520 And they're, they're right in front of the throne room of God.

00:13:59.780 And one of them has a face, like a man.

00:14:02.080 One of them has a face, like a cow.

00:14:05.300 One has a face, like a lion.

00:14:06.640 And the other is like an eagle.

00:14:09.220 Yeah.

00:14:09.340 So what are these?

00:14:10.820 These are called, these are the, the cherubim.

00:14:14.120 They are cherubs.

00:14:15.060 Now you have to remove the image in your mind of the medieval paintings of a cherub, which is basically like a fat baby with wings.

00:14:23.400 It, because that's, that's comes from paganism.

00:14:25.700 It's actually the, um, the Greek God arrows or in, in Roman Cupid, you know, the story of the, um, the other little flying baby with the, with the arrow, he shoots an arrow in your heart and you fall in love with the next person.

00:14:36.420 You see, that's again, that's, that's paganism.

00:14:39.440 That's not what a cherub looks like.

00:14:40.900 The actual cherubim are probably the most powerful angels, Elohim, that God created.

00:14:47.380 They are the guardians of the throne room of God.

00:14:50.340 And, you know, they are fierce.

00:14:53.260 They, we have these idea that angels are, again, we base everything we think, we picture these things as those medieval paintings, you know, angels having, wearing white robes and having big old bird wings.

00:15:06.420 And a halo.

00:15:07.900 That's not what angels look like.

00:15:10.200 Angels are frightening.

00:15:11.440 Every time someone encounters an angel in our, anleme in, in the Bible, they faint Daniel, who we're going to talk about, cause he's very important to this.

00:15:19.500 He, when he encountered an angel, he, he went to a coma.

00:15:23.240 You know, these, you don't mess around with angels.

00:15:25.340 These are fearsome, um, uh, entities.

00:15:28.780 So these cherubim are representatives of what they, they, I think they represent.

00:15:35.200 all of our creation and i think they also represent all the classes of of good elohim

00:15:42.240 good angels now if you look at them interesting point here if you could say that they they

00:15:50.940 represent different parts of creation the one with the face like a man but you know represent

00:15:54.580 humanity one who has a face like a lion would represent carnivores one who has a face like a um

00:16:00.900 a um an eagle would represent you know the avions and the one with a cow with a face like a cow would

00:16:07.000 represent um herbivores but if you notice there's one class of animal missing so take a step back when

00:16:13.380 i say you know angels you know they don't have wings that you know that we see that they're not

00:16:17.940 typically depicted as wings there's only one with wings excuse me there's only one set of of of

00:16:23.360 angels that are said to have wings they're called the seraphim we read about them in isaiah in the

00:16:28.060 book of isaiah and they have six wings and it doesn't say that they're bird wings it says they

00:16:32.660 have six wings and seraphim are reptilian they're they're serpents i mean you look up the word seraph

00:16:40.340 yes it means a snake so it seems that we're we're missing a a class a classification man herbivore

00:16:49.580 carnivore avion we're missing reptile why isn't there a cherub and that represents reptiles

00:16:55.080 there was if we go to the book of ezekiel we read about the fall of the entity that we call satan

00:17:02.280 or lucifer and it says in ezekiel chapter uh yeah 28 he says you um god speaking to this fallen angel

00:17:12.160 the the lucifer satan he says you were at the anointed cherub that covers meaning he was the he was the top

00:17:20.840 flight he was the anointed cherub he was the king of the cherubs he was the highest created being

00:17:26.240 he was reptilian he's called the dragon as we'll see later on in revelation but he let he fell he got

00:17:34.980 kicked out so he represents the class of angels of the seraphim they were all reptilian um and then you

00:17:41.600 also if you look throughout the bible you will find that some angels look like humans some of them

00:17:47.060 are like cows um in fact you'll see when in during the exodus the reason that the israelites made that

00:17:52.360 golden calf when moses was at the top of the mountain was because they were they wanted to

00:17:57.360 worship um an elohim and so and they they wanted to so they made a a bold god because of the class of

00:18:04.960 angels look like bulls look like uh cows and then of course you have angels that look like blind birds

00:18:11.980 are you are you saying yeah by saying that there's there's classes of angels do you think that

00:18:18.360 there's tears like so you're saying that the seraphim were like the most powerful possibly because it's

00:18:25.040 like i know you're not you're not supposed to understand or question god's ways but it's like

00:18:28.760 well why would i make it why would i make tears of angels where specifically the most powerful ones

00:18:34.200 will then rebel against me well not they didn't all rebel um the dragon lucifer satan the nakash he

00:18:42.200 rebelled but there's still seraphim who were good the ones in isaiah were they were they were still

00:18:46.620 good so not all of the not all the rest of the fallen were all the fallen seraphim there's some

00:18:52.740 fallen seraphim there's some fallen ones who are um the cow gods they're called the bulls of bashan we

00:18:57.900 read about them in the book of psalms so i think there was a a mixture of elohim who fell

00:19:03.060 so it wasn't just like all one class fell but they're you know they're good seraphim they're

00:19:07.080 good bull looking ones they're good human looking ones and now you start to this is where you start

00:19:11.980 to imagine the connection between these fallen and then all these various pantheons of of lowercase g

00:19:18.660 gods from alien culture to the next and aliens you look at some of the egyptian gods they have bird

00:19:23.300 some of them have bird heads some of them have reptile heads like alligator heads right well then you

00:19:27.220 get to the the entire reptilian thing and and how that is an integral part of what people

00:19:32.720 identify as as the alien uh pantheon i suppose for lack of a better term uh and then there there's

00:19:39.160 also within the reptilian uh you know idea there's this notion of shape-shifting yeah as well which

00:19:46.420 is something that you get from the angels their ability to to change form right it's funny it's

00:19:52.860 funny people tell that who was one of the um major evil gods elohim in in in the canine canine realm

00:19:59.720 he was a bull god right like he's the one who sacrificed children to and there's an argument

00:20:04.220 to be made that that moloch has like a lot of influence these days with like all the things

00:20:08.420 that are going on with children and blood sacrifices and yeah so he was a bull so so there was a cross

00:20:13.980 section i think angels of elohim of each one of these classes fell and then you have like you know

00:20:19.560 some of these um some of these ones people see that are they look like they're very nordic looking

00:20:24.920 you know they're tall very good looking blonde um and those may be the ones that look like men

00:20:31.240 and then there are some that that look like birds you will see i think in the book of zachariah

00:20:36.860 it shows um you know that that there's certain um elohim that are bird-like so it looks so

00:20:42.780 that's my speculation based on what i've read but it looks like that these cherubim were over

00:20:48.520 these different classes classifications of angels and some of them fell and some of them remain and

00:20:53.960 most of them remain faithful some of them fell what you're saying sounds like this really important key

00:20:59.980 to understanding like we just said all these other cultures and all these other you know lowercase g

00:21:03.980 gods especially you just said just yesterday just yesterday we were talking with someone who was

00:21:08.180 giving his theory on what all this stuff is and we didn't even have time to get like biblical with

00:21:12.980 them but he's saying all these things like like just describing it i'm like but like the bible says

00:21:18.380 exactly that it's just nobody bothers to really look into it that way it's incredible yeah i mean the

00:21:23.760 more you study this the more it all just starts to come together it's like you have all these

00:21:27.240 puzzle pieces and you start putting them together you're like this i'm getting this it's all making

00:21:32.320 all one story it's all it gives them picture a lot of um suddenly that terminology right as above so

00:21:39.580 below um we're gonna talk about that thanks for mentioning it it almost takes on a different life

00:21:44.720 because it's like yeah down here we have all of this animal life all these things that we're accustomed

00:21:50.720 to no this is not we're live yeah we're live um all these things that we're accustomed to as far as

00:21:56.980 animal uh wildlife and it's like we would be shocked to find out that these higher entities uh that are

00:22:06.920 ancient and biblical in nature also just they are the mirrored image of the things that we that inhabit

00:22:13.620 the earth alongside us right well yeah keep in mind that they're that um we've seen evidence that

00:22:20.120 god is god's not a dictator he likes sharing his authority he enjoys it so he's put certain

00:22:26.800 elohim over areas of creation we're gonna see later on in the book that there's an angel of the sun

00:22:32.100 there's angel there's four angels that control the winds and so i think that these angels are showing

00:22:38.660 that these cherub members showing that they're over all aspects of of life on earth that's very

00:22:43.560 interesting just a just a side note we uh one of our previous guests actually i don't think it was a

00:22:49.580 previous guest i think it was somebody who submitted one of their uh supernatural stories

00:22:53.240 was talking about how an entity that they were in communication with which obviously would never

00:22:58.780 recommend doing that but still this is something that happened to this guy um told him that there

00:23:03.700 is such thing as a system of karma and that god commissioned the angels to create it and that

00:23:10.080 because the angels created it it's it's imperfect if god would have created it would have been perfect

00:23:15.220 but since they created it over you know thousands of years it's basically degraded and and become a

00:23:22.020 shit show uh but there was a time where karma and the karmic cycle was a kind of a well functioning

00:23:28.520 oiled machine that was commissioned by god uh to or commissioned yeah god commissioned the angels to

00:23:35.880 build it so it's just interesting that you should say that that god likes to share his authority and

00:23:39.240 will have uh uh angels rule over different aspects of this world that's the coolest thing god's like so

00:23:44.880 the opposite of god is micromanagement pretty much yeah oh i love that yeah i love that i hate

00:23:50.920 micromanagement i gotta tell my boss that because i mean karma when you get down to it in a pure form

00:24:05.440 it's justice which is fine i mean it means that you know and god is a god of justice i mean you know

00:24:10.680 we've seen that and that basically if something gets taken away something has to be given back

00:24:15.660 everything has an equal lot that's what justice is everything has to balance so if i take 10 bucks

00:24:20.100 from you i owe you 10 bucks and if i give you your 10 bucks back that's justice however if i take 10

00:24:24.340 bucks from me and i don't give it back well then i'm owed justice god can now move against me and say

00:24:29.940 you know what you are unjust i need to balance this out and i can balance it out either by giving you back

00:24:35.200 giving the backs the 10 dollars that were that was uh taken or by taking 10 from you so and that's

00:24:42.140 really that that's how god works he moves through justice and that's what karma really is when you

00:24:45.900 really get down to it it's it's interesting when you think about hollywood some of the some of the

00:24:50.300 more popular movies like in current times they don't have that justice at the end they don't have

00:24:55.360 that like bring it all together and then it's just left off and you know i like these kind of movies

00:25:00.240 but it's like what are you trying to say what are you like you're going to get away with it is that

00:25:04.160 what's your have you noticed that a lot of those they're unsatisfying because we all have that

00:25:09.820 sense of justice we all know right and just you don't have you don't have to teach a kid that

00:25:14.000 something is right and wrong you have to teach a kid that just it things are just and unjust i mean

00:25:17.920 my kids will tell me all the time oh well dad that's not fair okay well you understand justice

00:25:21.800 what would be fair how would this balance out how would this make up for what you believe is unfair

00:25:26.060 so we inherently know that so if you see a story where again things don't work out in a just way

00:25:32.200 it kind of it bugs you doesn't it yeah you don't feel everybody dies at the end right

00:25:37.640 but when right but when the good guy wins or the good girl wins and they go off with the love of

00:25:43.480 their life and like okay that was satisfying you know you feel good but when there's that imbalance

00:25:48.320 it it puts you on edge and i think part of it you were saying top that we know what's the point of

00:25:53.820 it i think the point is just to keep us unbalanced i think there i think there's a demoralization

00:25:59.140 to a lot of our entertainment these days that's fascinating because yesterday we talked to a

00:26:04.340 classically trained musician who does ragtime music uh he's a pianist and he talks about how

00:26:11.320 uh the music industry nowadays has boiled down to these repetitive chords i forget what the chords

00:26:16.860 were but it's like many chords yeah and it gives you the illusion of of travel but in reality there's

00:26:23.420 no uh travel you're actually stuck in a loop so these really popular songs are just

00:26:28.120 kind of uh giving you the sensation of going somewhere almost like the way he described it

00:26:32.980 was the beginning of an adventure he said it's the very beginning of the hero's journey but you don't

00:26:37.260 actually go anywhere you just keep feeling like there's movement and you're about to go somewhere

00:26:41.340 and the next thing you know you're right back at the beginning it's very fascinating and that is

00:26:45.300 interesting the cornerstone of the music industry right now and i asked him i said what do you think

00:26:49.280 that that sort of thing does to you know thousands millions of people that are subjected to this

00:26:55.640 over and over again if music truly has a hypnotic property what are you doing when you're giving

00:27:00.780 everyone this false start over and over again it's just it is it does seem that uh a lot of industries

00:27:06.680 and and we're talking about uh movies seem to have trapped us in a loop in in some sort of uh

00:27:13.920 some sort of minor hell let's get back off off of karma yes yeah let's go let's go let's go

00:27:18.660 yeah sorry guys we got limited time i keep forgetting that all right we can't talk forever

00:27:24.840 okay so um finishing up so that's so the scene in heaven is uh god on the throne other thrones

00:27:31.480 around him with these 24 elders in front of the throne are they the cherubim the the throne guardians

00:27:36.400 and then you have the sea of glass and then you which is you know just um we're going to see what

00:27:42.240 that means towards the end of the book so i'm not going to harp on that right now and then you have

00:27:47.240 then you have the um the cherubim singing the song holy holy holy is the lord god almighty

00:27:52.020 so that's chapter four chapter four is just that description then you get to chapter five

00:27:56.000 in chapter five you see that in the hand of of god of jehovah of yahweh sitting on his throne

00:28:01.600 is a scroll that's sealed with seven seals it's written on the front and on the back

00:28:06.420 and a voice goes out and says who is worthy to open to break the seals of this scroll

00:28:13.080 and and read it and open it and no one is found it says on heaven on earth in heaven in earth under

00:28:20.300 the earth who is worthy to open the scroll and john the apostle starts crying it says he he says i

00:28:26.960 wept much or or or to be more accurate he says i sobbed convulsively he is like devastated because

00:28:32.740 no one can open this scroll and read it okay what's going on here here is one of the great things about

00:28:39.540 revelation is that in order to understand it you have to understand the entire old testament if you

00:28:43.920 don't understand that if you don't if you haven't read the old testament if you haven't studied it isn't

00:28:47.940 this is not going to make sense to you and most unfortunately most christians are are not as

00:28:53.260 very biblically literate so this doesn't make sense how it makes sense is if you read the book of

00:28:58.320 daniel this harkens back to something that happened in daniel chapter 9 so let me set up where we are

00:29:05.740 with daniel chapter 9 exactly we're going to get into that it's some fascinating stuff so you have you

00:29:11.360 know god makes the world how does he how does he make the world how does he make that our physical

00:29:15.480 realm he speaks it into existence let there be light you know let animals come forth let there be trees

00:29:20.420 and mountains so forth and so on and he speaks it in the heavens and it manifests on earth

00:29:24.640 this is a spiritual principle a very important one that's going to be really germane what we're

00:29:29.480 talking about you mentioned before raven you said you know as above so below that's what he's doing

00:29:34.940 here not in the alistair crowley sense he he stole that so i mean i know some people there your hairs

00:29:40.400 are going to stand up when you hear as well so below because it's just a principle that that you can use

00:29:45.620 in the spiritual realm if you speak something in one realm you have to speak it in one realm to

00:29:50.720 manifest in the other so that's why spiritual warfare is done with words that's why you know

00:29:56.660 god used words to speak things into existence so that's what he did he spoke the world into existence

00:30:02.460 so speaking in one place and it will manifest there is no wiggle room there if you speak something into

00:30:09.500 the spiritual realm it will manifest into the material realm and it works the other way around that's what

00:30:13.740 our prayers are called when what are we doing we pray we are speaking things into our physical realm

00:30:19.100 with the thought that it will manifest spiritually so we can do the same thing that's why god tells us

00:30:24.680 to pray because so that we can participate in this spiritual law as above so below speaking things into

00:30:31.000 realms okay so we know what happens after that we have good all right yeah should we be when we're

00:30:37.660 praying should we be praying out loud or in your head then that's a good question yeah what do we do

00:30:42.560 yeah i yeah i've asked the same question when i was discovering this myself with with some some

00:30:46.980 friends of mine who i i who i we bounce ideas off each other with biblical stuff and i asked the same

00:30:51.320 question um i think we should do both i think that when you're talking to god you can talk in your head

00:30:57.180 but when you are praying when you want something to manifest you have to say it out loud

00:31:01.140 because when you read the bible people pray out loud and there's a difference the difference between

00:31:05.800 praying and talking to god i can talk to god it's just a conversation god just wants to hang out with

00:31:10.760 with us he wants to hear our thoughts he wants to share with us a prayer is a petition you are asking

00:31:16.780 for something on your behalf or on someone else's behalf those should be done out loud that that that's

00:31:23.640 my i i that's my opinion but i base that opinion on the prayers i read in the bible people speak it out

00:31:30.100 loud and they speak it often in a loud voice and i agree i agree with you again because like when i pray

00:31:35.640 with my son at night sometimes we're already laying down if we're like he's already tired i'm like

00:31:39.760 and sometimes i'll pray in my head for him and i'm like that that felt cheap like it didn't feel if i

00:31:46.880 would have said it out loud it would have felt different you know what i mean yeah okay i agree

00:31:51.240 with you there's something there it feels different when i when i'm feeling like oppressed by by you know

00:31:56.340 demonic entities and it happens i mean you can't a christian cannot be possessed by a demon because

00:32:01.920 we already have the whole spirit is in us and the holy spirit is more powerful but but we can be

00:32:05.860 oppressed we can feel like really almost a physical weight on us and i and i feel that sometimes just

00:32:11.360 when i know i'm about to have a breakthrough in some cases but what i do is i have this prayer that

00:32:16.300 i've written that that i actually got from someone else i can't take credit for it but it's a prayer of

00:32:20.460 spiritual warfare and it's like six pages and i'll read as much as i can and i do it in a loud voice

00:32:25.460 actually i go to my car so my people neighbors don't think i'm crazy but and i do that and at the end

00:32:30.940 i feel that oppression off me because i did spiritual warfare and it was just me saying

00:32:36.040 these things out loud pleading them you know the blood of jesus i was you know i i use the

00:32:39.580 hebrew terms i'll say yahushua hamashiach and by the power of the ruach hakodesh which is the

00:32:45.440 the holy spirit and i just i i go old school on them like calling him directly i'm talking to you

00:32:51.300 yeah right wow okay okay so yeah so so that's so that's the ads above so below speaking things

00:32:57.780 into into realms they manifest so we know what happens after you have the creation first we

00:33:01.540 have the nahash the dragon satan rebels and that's who i think that adam adam they were talking to in

00:33:06.460 this in the garden of eden they weren't talking to a a garden snake they were talking to the nahash

00:33:11.400 i think we mentioned this before the term is translated serpent is is nahash in hebrew it means

00:33:17.220 the shining one when it's used as a descriptive term but i think they were talking to a dragon

00:33:21.840 because you see in other cultures a lot it's including the americas you have these people

00:33:28.360 worshiping what they call plumed serpents plumed meaning having wings the americas the incas

00:33:33.520 where's in china sorry quetzalcoatl which yes exactly you ever been you ever go to cancun

00:33:40.400 you know go to the you know the chichen itza and and kukul khan that's it's it's a plumed serpent

00:33:46.940 if you look at you know the dragons in in um in chinese mythology they look more like i think what

00:33:53.220 what these what these seraphim actually look like and they are you know the long snake like drag so

00:33:58.700 dragons and they breathe fire and you see in the bible fiery serpents if i just if i told you that

00:34:04.260 there was a thing that was a giant fiery reptile what would you think that i was talking about

00:34:09.660 i'm a dragon so anyway sorry i can't keep going off on the tangent so we'll never get done in time

00:34:16.180 so the the dragon rebels man rebels you know and um and then the the 200 angels

00:34:24.920 come down and have intercourse with women create the nephilim god has to flood the world

00:34:29.280 and then he divides the world and then you have the babel incident bab meaning gate l meaning to god

00:34:36.140 through the realm of the elohim so nimrod was creating a gateway to the elohim realm god had to

00:34:42.940 confuse their languages and then that's when he said i'm done dealing with you people personally

00:34:46.420 you're pissing me off you want i'm going to divide you into nations and i'll deal with you as nations

00:34:51.280 but he put over each one of these nations 70 nations one of the elohim from his council they

00:34:56.580 were good elohim at the time he put them over the nations and he had he was going to make his own

00:35:01.000 nation through abraham called israel all the 70 elohim who put over the nations fell we see that in

00:35:07.640 psalms 82 they all started accepting worship from the people who they were over and that corrupted

00:35:13.240 them because worship is the transference of spiritual energy between between a man to to the elohim realm

00:35:21.340 it's addictive to them it's like the best sex ever or the or the best hit of heroin they liked it they

00:35:26.360 coveted it and so they all fell and and became against god and they were all working to consolidate

00:35:34.080 their power because if you if you want to have more worship and you have a whole nation worshiping

00:35:39.220 you how do you get more worship you got to conquer another nation and put those people under you but

00:35:43.740 in order to conquer that nation you also have to conquer the elohim of that nation and so you have

00:35:48.440 these different elohim jockeying for position and that's where we this is the origin of wars and

00:35:53.540 empires empires are very important so let's fast forward to daniel in daniel's time israel

00:35:59.420 have basically fallen because they were worshiping the elohim of other nations god told if you worship

00:36:05.060 elohim of other nations you're going to get kicked out of your land they did it anyway they got kicked

00:36:09.420 out now they're in captivity in babylon the babylonian empire is in power now under nebuchadnezzar

00:36:14.200 daniel was a faithful you know jewish boy became a man and he became part of nebuchadnezzar's court he was

00:36:22.440 very trusted because he because nebuchadnezzar knew that he had god in him and he was interpreting

00:36:27.640 dreams that nebuchadnezzar had and so the dream want to talk about really quickly and he there are

00:36:33.420 two major dreams they're very similar nebuchadnezzar has a dream in his in his dream he sees a statue

00:36:40.340 made of various types of metals the head of the statue is is gold the um arms and chest are silver

00:36:47.920 um the the torso is bronze two legs of iron and his feet and toes are iron mixed with clay

00:36:54.560 so daniel no one can interpret this dream except daniel daniel interprets it through through god

00:37:00.500 and he said and this is the basically what it is is like successive empires so the head of gold he

00:37:08.160 says is you you're nebuchadnezzar you're the head of gold there will be an empire coming after you

00:37:12.460 that will be silver so it'll be so notice as you go down these metals become less valuable but stronger

00:37:19.780 gold is very valuable but it's soft you can you can bend gold silver less valuable than gold

00:37:26.460 but but also harder bronze same thing less valuable than silver but tougher iron the least valuable of

00:37:33.260 all and but it's the toughest and then you have iron mixed with clay and interesting when it says

00:37:38.860 when so you have the uh nebuchadnezzar's empire there'll be another empire that'll be little less

00:37:43.620 than yours than another that's which was the medial persian empire the persians conquered the

00:37:47.900 babylonians then there'll be another one that's stronger but less valuable and that would be the

00:37:52.580 greek empire under alexander the great then you have um you know another empire that's you know

00:37:57.980 less valuable but stronger which is which would be the roman empire and then there'll be an empire at

00:38:03.660 the end of the in the latter days at the end of the age of man which will be iron mixed with clay

00:38:09.380 so it's going to be partially strong and partially weak it says and he says this is going to be really

00:38:14.220 interesting when we get to um the antichrist and his kingdom it says as just as iron it does not

00:38:20.780 mix with clay it says they will mingle themselves with the seed of men but it will not adhere it won't

00:38:26.620 work so they who's the they whoever they is has to be something other than the seed of men it has to be

00:38:33.980 non-human so you're saying so he's saying that there will be a non-humans mingling themselves mingling

00:38:39.420 their dna their genetics with the seed of man but it's not going to work and this so i'm going to

00:38:44.700 just stick a pin there because that's going to be the mark of the beast this is well what you're

00:38:48.780 talking about right here is just the return of the nephilim yeah exactly yep it sounds like the

00:38:53.500 it sounds like the it sounds exactly like the alien abduction phenomenon because if you listen to

00:38:58.780 people's testimony um you know some people have a lot more recollection recollection than others and

00:39:03.820 there is commonality uh there is a lot of commonalities in these stories and one of the

00:39:08.620 things is you'll hear things like they they have a frustration with the offspring that they're

00:39:13.500 yielding from the human beings that they're abducting um and the the seed that they're implanting with

00:39:19.660 them and when it when it yields this offspring there's just there's something wrong it's not quite

00:39:24.380 right it's not where they want it to be and it's it's essentially broken this these these children

00:39:29.500 that are described they used to be the black-eyed children they've changed a little bit over time but

00:39:35.100 always there's just this massive component that's missing and they're frustrated there's even stories

00:39:39.820 where these these aliens are pushing the children towards the abductees like look fix fix this there's

00:39:46.940 something wrong bond with it there's something wrong here and they can't yeah i think that's a sign

00:39:54.140 that we're nearly in times i think when when i give you my theory on on what i believe the mark of the

00:39:58.540 beast is i think that's going to encapsulate it because i think we're building towards that is

00:40:03.420 what you're just saying raven that you know there's it's not working i think it's going to be a total

00:40:08.220 cluster well a total clusterfuck when they try to deal with the mark of the beast because i think the

00:40:13.180 mark of the beast is intended to change your dna to make you a host for a nephilim for so what they

00:40:19.900 can't achieve biologically they're going to try to achieve technologically yep yep and i think it's not

00:40:25.340 going to work and we can get to details on that so that that's just priming the pump for getting to

00:40:30.620 the mark of the beast uh fascinating yeah so so those that was nebuchadnezzar's dream he saw these

00:40:37.100 empires as precious metals it was it was a basically a man focused dream then we get to chapter nine

00:40:43.420 daniel himself the man of god he has a dream and he sees these same four empires but he sees them as

00:40:49.340 therion as beasts the first one is a lion a winged lion and it says he's he saw the lion and it was

00:40:56.940 made to stand up like a man a man's heart was given to it then he sees the next empire was a bear that was

00:41:02.860 raised up on one side so the the first empire was nebuchadnezzar the babylonian empire and the reason

00:41:09.740 a man's heart was given to it is oh so let me just back up these beasts they represent the elohim that are

00:41:16.380 over these empires okay so these that's why i said don't take that picture of angels in your head

00:41:22.620 with having the halo and the big wings and the white rope no that's not what they look like folks that's

00:41:27.180 that's all pagan stuff that's all you know medieval stuff these angels they're they're these elohim

00:41:32.140 are frightening so this one elohim that was over um babylon was a winged lion but it says a man's

00:41:39.180 heart was given to it why because nebuchadnezzar became saved nebuchadnezzar started to believe in the

00:41:44.860 god of israel and i believe that when we get to heaven we'll we're going to see him there he he

00:41:49.260 actually nebuchadnezzar wrote daniel chapter four that's like the only book in the old testament written

00:41:55.100 by a gentile it was nebuchadnezzar's testimony of how he came to be quote unquote saved so so basically

00:42:02.540 he's saying that a man's heart was given to this empire and the wings were plucked off me so because

00:42:08.780 because nebuchadnezzar became saved and he was no longer a therion or representing the therion

00:42:14.300 then you have this bear raised up on one side their members represents the medial persian empire

00:42:18.700 and is raised up on one side because the persian part of the empire was much stronger than the medes

00:42:24.620 um the medes are actually uh modern day uh the kurds you remember that from the from the uh the

00:42:30.540 iraq war um and it had three ribs in its mouth and then you have another beast that comes after it

00:42:37.820 that is a leopard with four heads this represents the the greek empire why because first of all

00:42:43.900 leopards are very fast and um the the greek empire conquered with you know the the blitz the they're

00:42:50.300 going to call the blitzkrieg that's basically what um the the germans used and uh adopted their that

00:42:55.260 technique when they were in world war ii but it was just basically we're going to just go fast where it

00:43:00.540 was all about speed and he conquered the world you know in a few years because no one could deal with how

00:43:05.580 fast his army was moving and the four heads after an um alexander the great died his empire was split

00:43:12.700 into four his four generals because he didn't have any offspring because you know he was he was he was

00:43:17.500 gay he didn't have you know he didn't he didn't produce any offspring and so he had those so when he

00:43:22.860 died it went to his four generals then there's this last beast which daniel can't even describe he said

00:43:28.380 it was just it was just it was frightening it was in fact i'll read exactly what it says he says um

00:43:36.700 and i saw a fourth beast dreadful and terrible exceedingly strong it had huge iron teeth it was

00:43:41.500 devouring breaking in pieces and trampling the residue with his feet it was different from all

00:43:45.900 the beasts that were before it and had it had ten horns as i was considering the horns there was another

00:43:51.420 horn a little one coming up among them before whom three of the first ones were plucked out by the roots

00:43:56.620 and in the horn were eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth speaking great words so what's this all

00:44:01.340 about this obviously would have to be the roman empire and it was very different than the other

00:44:06.860 empires in that it lasts until this day i think we talked about um in the seven letters to seven

00:44:13.180 churches the roman empire never went away okay it was never conquered it just went from a a senate

00:44:19.580 addicted a senatorial dictatorship to a theocracy with the vatican then the vatican you know they

00:44:26.380 spawned the the banking families because you had the medicis and the orsinis who were the bankers for

00:44:31.260 the vatican they sponsored the rothschilds who sponsored the rockefellers and all these other

00:44:38.540 families that run the world so but they all report back at the highest levels to that vatican structure

00:44:44.860 the jesuit structure who and they report to the um you know to the elohim that are over them so we're still

00:44:51.500 under the auspices of the roman empire and that's when you get to the end when it has when we'll see

00:44:58.300 you know the iron mixed with the clay all right so what and then so i'm going to tell you what happens

00:45:03.980 next and i'm going to tell you what all this means so the next thing that happens that daniel sees he

00:45:08.780 says um i watched after after the um i saw the little horn is is the antichrist so the horns are

00:45:17.020 are a symbol of authority in the bible anything that has horns a horn is the authority and so this um

00:45:23.980 final beast this that represents rome has ten of horns ten authorities and then another one a little

00:45:29.900 horn is going to come up among them and he is going to it says he has eyes like a man meaning that it's going

00:45:35.660 to be a a man a human and it's going to have the ultimate authority and it's going to basically

00:45:41.980 we'll see in the rest we see in the rest of daniel chapter 9 that he basically this um little horn

00:45:49.020 conquers the world so what then the next thing is daniel says he says i watched until thrones were put in

00:45:55.980 place and the ancient of days which is the title of god was seated his garment was white as snow his hair

00:46:00.780 was like pure wool his throne was a fiery flame his wheels a burning fire steam issued from it and

00:46:06.780 came up from before it and it just continues describing god but it describes him in some ways

00:46:11.340 that are similar to what we saw from jesus in the first chapter garment white as snow hair like white

00:46:17.340 as wool and he says i watched because the sound of the pompous words that the little horn was speaking

00:46:23.020 and i watched till the beast was slain and its body destroyed this is the final beast given to the

00:46:28.220 given to the burning flame and the rest of the beast that had their dominion taken away

00:46:32.780 and then i i saw in the night visions and behold one like the son of man coming in the clouds of

00:46:38.140 heaven and he came to the ancient of days god and he brought him near before him and he was given

00:46:43.340 dominion and glory and a kingdom that all people nations and languages would serve him and his dominion

00:46:49.420 is an everlasting dominion all right what does all this mean you have basically what is happening here

00:46:56.700 is the bad guys the evil elohim have given their plan of how they plan to dominate the world

00:47:04.620 what they're doing they're speaking into the heavenly realm we are going through four successive

00:47:09.820 empires this is how we are going to conquer the world and then we're going to have our our final

00:47:15.340 messianic figure this little horn the antichrist who's going to be in charge of everything

00:47:20.620 and that's how we're going to do it and so god says okay got it you just spoke your will it's going

00:47:27.580 you spoke it in this realm is going to manifest in the in the in the physical realm it's going to

00:47:33.660 happen uh the late dr michael heiser would call this the already but the not yet this has already

00:47:40.060 happened in this physical in the spiritual realm it's going to manifest here it's in the process of

00:47:44.460 manifesting because again daniel wrote this during the babylonian empire then those other empires have

00:47:49.580 happened so this is non-negotiable so because it's because they've stated their will because it's

00:47:54.540 going to happen god can legally judge it and that's what he does the next thing we see is a courtroom scene

00:48:01.660 that's what i'm there is that must have been so intense top are you talking like yeah sorry that must

00:48:07.340 have been so intense that you know the angels i still can't hear you you can't hear you top raven

00:48:12.860 can you look yeah let me see maybe maybe it's on my end i noticed that there's been this kind of uh

00:48:17.900 uh a little bit of you guys right now oh you can't hear me either that's fascinating oh no can you hear me

00:48:26.300 now that's strange he's like i haven't heard you the entire time he's like i've been wondering why

00:48:33.820 they're not saying anything i'm sorry guys i got nothing here um let me can you still hear me

00:48:41.500 yeah i can hear you check your audio we're setting audio you want me to log off and log on again

00:48:47.820 why don't you back out and come back in okay okay i'm gonna i'm gonna leave it i'll be right back okay

00:48:53.820 that was strange i noticed that because there was times where you would say something and i'm like

00:48:57.180 he's on a roll baby he doesn't care what top's saying yeah it's i guess he's not hearing us but um

00:49:02.540 i was just saying what was i gonna say it's it's interesting thinking about that court scene

00:49:07.820 where you have uh all of these angels or the fallen angels and they're like they've already said like

00:49:13.820 should we really say this out loud should we say this out loud and then they're like yeah then they

00:49:17.740 go to god and they're like this is our plan like that must have been just complete i'm i i don't even

00:49:23.260 know what that you can hear us now okay yeah excellent so someone didn't like what you were talking about

00:49:28.380 yeah that's strange uh top was saying because you had brought up the court scene and top was saying

00:49:33.020 how uh he found that fascinating go on tap okay so this so the court scene is and again remember that

00:49:40.060 the book of daniel like most of the bible was written to a contemporary jewish audience now of

00:49:44.540 course it's meant for us as well but we have to look at it through those lenses so when you so when a

00:49:49.580 jewish person sees that it says that um the ancient of days was seated there there were thrones around

00:49:55.260 him and the books were opened this says oh this is a trial so because the evil elohim have given

00:50:02.700 their plan jehovah can now judge them but notice that you know there's thrones there no one's on

00:50:07.980 them right now and so what he says is that um it describes the the ultimate judge um god jehovah

00:50:15.820 yahweh on there there are 12 thrones around there not to say 12 there are thrones around him and then

00:50:21.980 you see some someone called the son of man riding on a cloud what's the significant of that significance

00:50:28.220 of that the cloud rider is one of the names that the israelites had for for jehovah for a god the

00:50:34.380 father why because when they were in the exodus period he would lead them through a pillar of clouds

00:50:39.980 by day and a pillar of fire by night that's how he led them to the promised land so anyone who wrote the

00:50:46.460 clouds what's considered god now you have a man a human being riding on the clouds that is a human

00:50:53.100 being with the authority of god we know that that's we know that now to be jesus at the time that you

00:50:59.900 know jesus hadn't come so all they all the ancient israelites knew was that when they're reading reading

00:51:04.620 daniel's words okay a man is going to come in the authority of jehovah and he was given from what i just

00:51:11.740 read he was given the authority over all the nations so basically god is saying okay i see your

00:51:16.140 plan guys well you know what i'm going to destroy you he said you know that the beast power is going

00:51:20.380 to be taken away from you as you're going to be burned with fire and i'm going to give the world

00:51:24.620 to a man who rides on the clouds a man with uh who has my authority and he's going to be the one

00:51:31.260 who defeats you this is jesus what's now what does all that have to do with revelation chapter 5 and

00:51:38.380 four and five what we see in revelation chapter 4 and 5 is the conclusion of this trial this is the

00:51:45.740 conclusion that scroll in his hand is part of the conclusion so here's another reason why i believe

00:51:50.940 the 24 elders are the church because remember there was no in in daniel the thrones were set up but there

00:51:58.540 was no one on them when we get to revelation the 24 elders are on the throne and now if you read

00:52:05.980 first corinthians chapter 6 the apostle paul says that we believers will judge the angels he says don't

00:52:13.340 you know that we will judge angels the church is going to be on the throne judging the angels judging

00:52:21.660 these elohim how do they judge them what through what methodology through the seven letters to seven

00:52:28.780 churches those seven letters are jesus telling the church how you deal with this fallen world

00:52:35.660 he told the church at ephesus speak the truth in love he told the church of smear to the persecuted

00:52:40.380 church endure persecution the church of pergamum was told don't compromise the church of thyatira was

00:52:46.220 told don't rely on your own works because that's idolatry don't be idolatrous the church at sardis was

00:52:51.420 told to you know be watchful philadelphia church remained faithful the laodicean church take a stand

00:52:59.100 that's how we christians are supposed to deal with the world and if we deal with the world speaking

00:53:03.980 the truth speak the truth in love endure whatever persecution they give you don't compromise with

00:53:07.900 them don't worship idols any kind of any other elohim remain watchful remain faithful and take a stand

00:53:15.980 those that's how the church is supposed to interact with this world and by the sufferings that we get we

00:53:23.100 are now have the authority to judge because if you if you're the faithful church and you've done the

00:53:28.700 things that jesus told you to do and you know the world still took a crap on you now you have the

00:53:34.380 authority to judge and that's what the 24 elders are they're doing they're saying you know basically

00:53:39.660 they're saying guilty we interacted with the world they are guilty that's part of the reason why we're here

00:53:46.300 yes it's just you know to do the will of god and you know to pray for our enemies and to love one

00:53:51.260 another but we're also here to be we are we are the jury in this trial because we've lived it we've

00:53:58.540 experienced it we are the witness we are the key witness and we are the jury and we get to pronounce

00:54:04.860 the guilty verdict so at this point in the story the the elohim have been judged they've been found guilty

00:54:12.620 but now you got this scroll what is this scroll again you gotta have your jewish mind if it into

00:54:19.420 an ancient jew a scroll written on the front and on the back is a legal document it is the it is a

00:54:26.460 it's basically it's a title deed or a deed of passing passing on a possession from one person to another

00:54:32.620 so it's like a last will and testament and and a property deed a title deed on the written on the front

00:54:39.420 and back so these um scrolls were written on papyrus you know it's made from from these reeds

00:54:45.020 and the if you when they would make them the the inside was very smooth easy to write on so that's

00:54:50.060 where most of the writing was done the back the outside was actually was rough it was kind of like

00:54:54.220 almost like you know kind of like a bark for last bark like the tree bark for lack of a better term

00:54:59.980 so you so on the back of a legal document would be the instructions for how to execute

00:55:05.740 the contents within so on the back of it if it was a will it would say here's you need to do these

00:55:10.540 things in order to execute the will and then inside okay here's what you get as part of the will or part

00:55:15.580 of this property deed so what's in the hand of jehovah is the property deed the title deed to the earth

00:55:24.380 this is the this and whoever can open it who is worthy to break these seals and read the instructions

00:55:29.740 on how to take the earth back would possess the earth this is like a civil asset forfeiture

00:55:38.300 so because i i so i wonder like it replaces misnomer that a lot of people have they you hear

00:55:44.220 people say we know well satan has legal right to this earth you know when when he you know got adam

00:55:49.020 and eve to sin the earth was belonged to adam and eve but when he got them to sin well it was legally

00:55:55.500 transferred to satan no that never happened he satan that fallen elohim have never had legal title to

00:56:01.500 the earth that's not how it works if you down they have now he's called the god of this age apostle

00:56:07.100 paul calls him that but that means he's the elohim of this age meaning that he had he's over it but

00:56:12.380 he's basically a squatter i mean imagine if you bought a piece of property and you didn't move into

00:56:17.500 it yet and you know some people would come in and just they'd be there and they would they were

00:56:21.420 they're living in your house but they don't own it they're squatters you call the sheriff and get

00:56:24.940 them kicked out have you ever read you ever read this book uh birthright by timothy alvarino

00:56:29.980 i haven't read it but i i i'm a fan of timothy alvarino um i've seen some of his youtube um uh

00:56:35.660 videos talking about that i should probably get that book at some point it's a yeah it's a breakdown of

00:56:40.460 what you're discussing here about who actually has dominion and ownership over this and what this is

00:56:45.180 about so as you were saying that i'm like yep i've read this i've read this before yeah so so

00:56:51.180 jesus actually won the title back the title deed to to the earth at the crucifixion at the

00:56:57.100 resurrection because he basically he overturned adam's sin and so because he lived the life adam

00:57:01.740 couldn't live live and he died unjustly he gets he just hasn't taken possession of it yet so basically

00:57:07.180 all the evil elohim who are running the world now the 13 families the illuminati the bankers what not

00:57:13.500 they're squatters they don't own the earth they're squatting on it and the rest of the book of

00:57:17.820 revelation it's going to be them getting kicked out jesus calling in the sheriff jesus being the

00:57:22.140 sheriff and getting kicked out when we get to the seven trumpets we're gonna we're gonna really get

00:57:25.420 into that because the seven trumpets are starting to pass the process of jesus repossessing his um his

00:57:31.020 property you want to talk about as above so below we're in the middle of this whole like squatters

00:57:35.900 rights debacle here in america where all over the news there's always these horrifying stories of you

00:57:41.820 you know uh uh homeowners having the inability to evict people not even evict them because they

00:57:46.380 never had any rights to begin with uh to the home but people who just break in and squat and then get

00:57:51.260 a piece of mail there or something and now you know you can never and i just think that's hilarious

00:57:55.420 because i've never heard it described like that that satan is a squatter or these these uh family of

00:58:01.020 elites are our squatters over the world uh that's that's a fascinating way to put it yeah i think what it

00:58:07.020 came to me because i was dealing with something similar myself my family is from texas and you

00:58:11.740 know i'm in california here but i mean a my you know my my grand my grandparents moved out here to

00:58:15.980 california in like in the in the 60s or whatever but they have my but they own land we have some we

00:58:20.540 have some family property in east texas and that's just it's farmland we haven't done anything with it

00:58:25.500 and um when when my grandparents passed away you know my mom and my aunt went out there to survey the land

00:58:31.340 and there was this guy who like he had cattle on the land and they were just like you know chewing you

00:58:35.420 know he was we're like dude this isn't your line you got to go he's like i've been here for years

00:58:39.660 and so that's that was a whole whole thing buying buying this property i feel like the guy i sold

00:58:44.060 to was trying to do squatter stuff he's like i'll sell it but you gotta let me stay here on my

00:58:48.060 trail i was like get out get out don't even i'm not playing that game i know about that stuff get out

00:58:52.860 yeah yeah he tried trying to go here i mean i'd want to get in my personal stuff yeah he was trying

00:58:56.460 to oh you know you let me stay online i'll give you some money like no this is our land we don't want

00:59:00.860 anyway so they're squatters and so the reason that the apostle john when he saw that no one

00:59:05.900 was worthy no one was worthy to open the scroll he started crying convulsively because that means

00:59:11.500 that if no one can open this scroll no one can take the legal possession of the earth and the

00:59:15.820 squatters get to stay so and remember i said the very beginning that without the book of revelation the

00:59:23.340 bible ends as a tragedy because again there's no one to take possession but then we see in chapter 5

00:59:30.380 one one interesting one of the 24 elders comes up to john and says i'm paraphrasing hey cheer up

00:59:36.380 there is someone who can open it um and it's this guy over here and then we see another vision of

00:59:42.220 jesus is actually it says we see the he says i looked up and i saw the lamb as it had been slayed slain

00:59:49.260 so he saw jesus and and and the lamb came and he took the scroll from the hand of of god he was worthy

00:59:55.900 and they sing this song the heavens basically erupt into celebration because jesus is worthy to open

01:00:02.300 this the scroll so i want to say this because i always find this interesting and i i talk about it

01:00:07.180 on faithbyreason.net in in in this section it says john says i saw the lamb as it had been slain now did

01:00:13.980 he see like you know a you know a little sheep with with like you know bruised with cuts on it

01:00:19.660 i think he actually saw jesus looking like he looked at the crucifixion you know because jesus

01:00:26.060 he wasn't just you know yeah yeah he got the nails in his in his hands and feet remember he was brutally

01:00:31.420 beaten i mean he was beaten he was whipped um you know lashed in fact if you look at the um some of

01:00:38.620 the messianic psalms one of them i think it was um uh god i forget which song i meant to look it up but i

01:00:44.140 didn't have time before we came on one of the psalms says that he was the messiah was was marred

01:00:49.260 beyond other all men so he didn't even look he didn't even bear he didn't even bear resemblance

01:00:54.220 to a son of a man basically jesus was beaten so badly he didn't even look human anymore

01:01:01.260 and here's the thing let's look at what i want to talk about what i think jesus is going to look like

01:01:08.620 when we see him we have the idea that you know jesus is going to look when we see him he's going

01:01:13.260 to look just like he did before except you know he's going to have these nail prints in his hands

01:01:16.860 and in his feet we know that because when the the story of the you know doubting thomas when the

01:01:22.380 disciples said hey we saw the resurrected jesus and thomas says i won't believe it until i put my hands

01:01:26.940 my fingers into his nail prints and and my my hand into the side with it into his side where the spear was

01:01:33.340 jesus said here i am here you know put your hand put your finger into the nail print and put your your palm

01:01:38.140 into the side and then thomas believed so by that we think that the only scars jesus had or kept

01:01:44.700 were those what if he kept all of them think about this when you look at the people when they first

01:01:51.500 see jesus after he rises again they can't recognize him the first person who sees him is is is mary

01:01:58.860 magdalene at the tomb and she thought he was a gardener and he's like he says hey why are you crying

01:02:05.020 she's oh you know um someone's taking the body of of jesus you know if you tell me where you put it

01:02:09.980 you know i'll go get it and she says and he says mary and she recognizes his voice and then she says

01:02:15.580 okay you're jesus then you see another scene where the disciples of some of the disciples peter uh

01:02:22.940 peter uh james and john and andrew they were out fishing and they see jesus on the shore and he says

01:02:29.980 hey you know have you guys caught any fish and he's like nope he said well throw your net to the other

01:02:33.260 side of the boat and they do that and they bring in a bunch of fish and they remember oh wait jesus

01:02:36.380 did the same miracle and when they get there jesus has made lunch for them and it says an interesting

01:02:41.340 thing it says none dare ask who he none dare ask who he was knowing that it was jesus they can't

01:02:48.140 recognize him and i think it's because he kept all that scar tissue what what does 2 000 years of scar

01:02:54.700 tissue look like that's what we need to be asking yeah i guess the other question is why would he keep

01:03:01.180 those scars why would he make him why would he appear to us because again we think of jesus you

01:03:04.940 know jesus has you know handsome guy with the long hair and the goatee which of course is jesus at

01:03:09.420 all he he was a middle eastern jew he didn't look like you know the renaissance paintings yeah that's

01:03:13.900 that's uh caesar or begora whatever his name is yeah cesare borgia cesare borgia yeah yeah let me

01:03:21.340 butcher that huh yeah it's okay i've i went to except i've talked about on this so many times because people

01:03:26.780 say this is jesus like no that's cesare borgia that's the son of pope alexander who was a rapist

01:03:33.100 uh who molested his sister who was a murderer yeah that's we based jesus on this jackass it's it's

01:03:39.900 interesting i mean he has to he's gonna have to appear this way um because he is uh he is man and

01:03:48.140 that's the entire point of it if he's representing us he has to appear this way so whatever heavenly

01:03:54.060 like look you think he's gonna have he's got in order to take that scroll he has to be one of us

01:03:59.980 and that's that's probably why they beat him so badly it's like you know if you want to come here

01:04:03.820 and like or like kick us out of our squatting you're gonna like and you're a man i don't you're

01:04:09.340 not even gonna look like a man when i'm done with you and it's like that's kind of geez man that's rough

01:04:13.740 it's a rough way to deal with it but i think that when we see him we're gonna realize what he how

01:04:18.540 much he loved us how much he endured for us yeah i think that's kind of the point yeah of keeping it

01:04:25.180 is to there's you know we have like these ideas they come from the passion of the christ or they

01:04:32.540 come from reading the bible um these kind of antiquated ideas in our minds to the best of our

01:04:38.300 abilities of what that suffering look like and i think like that would be the point of keeping that

01:04:43.740 visage is you know you should see that and you should shudder that a man would endure that out of

01:04:51.740 love for us yeah i'll tell you a quick story that out there that i also tell on my podcast so about

01:04:57.500 this little girl who whose mother had a lot of facial scars you know just you know just not pleasant

01:05:03.580 to look at and she would drop her little girl off to school every day and the kids make fun of her

01:05:07.420 make fun of the mother so one day the little girl said to her mother like you know what um instead of

01:05:12.140 dropping me off at school can you drop me off like a block away so i can walk to school and

01:05:15.500 mother's like why she said well because the kids always tease me when they look at you she'd say

01:05:20.140 you know what you're getting older let me tell you how i got these scars says when you were a baby an

01:05:24.380 infant um i was you were upstairs in your crib i was downstairs doing something our house caught on

01:05:29.420 fire including your room and it by the time i got up there it was completely engulfed in flames and i

01:05:35.820 needed to get you out out of there and so i put you know a towel over my head and i ran in but it wasn't

01:05:40.540 enough and i i wrapped you in the towel and i got third degree burns all over my body but i got you

01:05:47.100 out of there because that's all that mattered to me was getting you out of the house safely and that's

01:05:51.820 why i look like this and from then on the little girl was no longer ashamed of her mother because

01:05:56.780 every time she saw her mother's scars she saw how much her mother loved her and i think we're gonna

01:06:02.300 have the same thing when we see jesus we're gonna see you loved you were you were god you are so poor

01:06:08.860 above me but you became one of us you became me and you endured all of this for a bunch of people

01:06:15.180 who were your enemies who didn't deserve it you did this for us so i think that's we're gonna for

01:06:20.700 eternity we're just gonna see every day how how loved we were and how much he gave up for us

01:06:27.660 and he's not gonna look ugly to us we're gonna see the beauty of what he did now keep in mind

01:06:34.780 we're gonna see different parts we'll see him as a slain lamb but we'll also see him as john

01:06:38.540 solomon in the very beginning with all of his glory and i think we're gonna somehow see all of that at

01:06:43.020 once we're gonna see him as a glorious savior but we're also gonna see the brutally marred man at the

01:06:48.780 same time so literally the same i was like i was like i'm not gonna this is my podcast and how dare you

01:06:57.740 how dare you come on here and try that ed i was gonna as he's telling this story i wanted to tell

01:07:04.140 a joke at the end and my in my mind it was just like shut up you like that's like i was gonna be

01:07:09.340 like yeah then they all beat those kids up afterwards and i was like no you can do that

01:07:13.020 to you shut up yeah and then we got a baseball bat and mom and daughter

01:07:16.940 those kids we beat the shit out of those children the supernatural aspect of seeing

01:07:25.340 i've seen of seeing one person as like as many in in one glance is uh it's it's it's even more

01:07:33.740 believable i feel like we've seen this in like media like they i've they've there's been tricks

01:07:38.700 like this done for my brain to replicate it enough to say uh-huh i sort of understand like

01:07:44.140 what that's gonna be yeah i was thinking the same thing i was thinking the same thing it is uh um

01:07:51.260 you know i i do think that like we said though it makes sense to maintain that visage because people

01:07:58.460 don't it's easy to say you get it i don't get it you know what i mean like i'll never get it yeah

01:08:04.700 until i see it until i until it's really there in front of me there's no way you could get it

01:08:09.660 yeah exactly so we can just wrap this up so we said so jesus takes the scroll and he's worthy to

01:08:16.700 open it and i said and again you can see if you read the end the last half of revelation chapter 5

01:08:21.260 it's just the heavens exploding into celebration they're singing this song and that's where the 24

01:08:26.620 elders sing the song you know worthy is the lamb in fact i'll put my glasses back on i just bring it up

01:08:31.260 we'll end with with this because then we'll then we'll talk with them we'll prep for for next time

01:08:35.740 when we get into all the craziness of the tribulation and hold on i just had it here give me one sec

01:08:46.540 five and so the lamb takes scroll and it says you are worthy to take the scroll and open its seal

01:08:52.620 for you were slain you have redeemed us to god by your blood out of every tribe tongue and people and

01:08:57.420 have made us kings and priests to our god and we shall reign on earth and i looked and heard the

01:09:02.860 voice of many angels around the throne the living creatures and the elders saying with a loud voice

01:09:07.180 worthy is the lamb who was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and

01:09:11.100 glory and blessing blessing and honor and glory and power be with him who sits on the throne and to

01:09:15.500 the lamb forever and ever so yeah it's a celebration happening because finally the trial is over the elohim

01:09:23.340 have been judged and now it's time for jesus to start taking back what's his and as we'll get to

01:09:31.340 in the next episode when we look at the the opening of those seals when you have the the four horsemen

01:09:36.940 who ride out and yeah we're going to start getting into the brutal stuff so all the happy heavenly stuff

01:09:43.820 is going to be over and we're going to spend the next several episodes with some pretty traumatic stuff

01:09:49.180 happening on the earth so you're saying that so the trial is taking place right before um

01:09:56.220 the tribulation is that what yeah yeah yeah the trial ends so with that it could be taking place now

01:10:01.980 yeah it's literally now keep in mind that it technically god gave his verdict in daniel chapter

01:10:09.020 nine we just have to play it out and we're done playing it out when the church when the believing church

01:10:14.940 gets into heaven and they say okay we we we've we've rendered our judgment we're on these thrones

01:10:20.220 now so we see like it's like half the trial is in heaven on on daniel 9 and then it then the second

01:10:26.220 half is here in revelation 4. so am i understanding that the okay all right so the church is the first

01:10:33.340 church or the church is what's casting they're acting as jury right okay okay yeah jury and you can come

01:10:39.980 jury witness because if you remember that it's not the same as our civil trials here in the us

01:10:46.940 within in in ancient israel you you you were you could witness and judge because remember when jesus

01:10:53.180 was put on his that mock trial he was he was put through you had people who were coming in as false

01:10:57.740 witnesses saying yeah you know he said he would you know he would destroy the temple and he claimed to be

01:11:02.860 god so they were witnesses and they were judging this yeah this guy is guilty because i witnessed him doing

01:11:07.900 this so in that same vein the church will be saying the elohim are guilty we've witnessed it through our

01:11:13.420 lives with them doing these things right and that's the point of in order almost for them to be effective

01:11:19.420 jurors right it's like all of this experience had to be had so that you're you have first-hand knowledge

01:11:24.700 of the crimes they commit yeah what's that juror process like because it's like when you think about

01:11:30.060 real time it's like these guys don't know they know that it's soon but nobody knows when and then all

01:11:35.180 of a sudden they're like all the people are missing damn it they got they got the jury they

01:11:39.500 they pick the jury there's like other angels that are like just questioning people like are you the

01:11:43.740 jury they could they collect the jury so it's like that's all happening right there they have to fill

01:11:47.740 in the jury of exactly what's going on because yeah you can see this trial's been going on for about

01:11:53.580 about 2500 years from the time i love that yeah as soon as top asked that like is this this could be

01:11:58.380 happening like right now like yeah that's that's pretty cool every time we deal with the world we have more

01:12:03.500 quote-unquote evidence on our side so that we can you know because jehovah can say yeah you guys you

01:12:11.260 guys are going here's your sentence but in order to be fair and be just you have to have people who've

01:12:17.020 witnessed it who participated and said you know that you spoke it in heavens it manifested here on earth

01:12:23.100 we've been a part of that manifestation and because of that we have the right to to to render judgment

01:12:28.540 i just okay judgment's rendered here here's the someone else can take over the deed oh it's going

01:12:34.380 to be the the lamb who was slain awesome it's yours take possession take back what's yours and that's

01:12:38.860 really what the rest of the book up until like chapter 19 is going to be really about man what's that

01:12:44.700 jury going to look like it's probably going to be people you don't expect yeah there's there's always

01:12:49.820 questions like who's who is the identity of the 24 elders who are they exactly i think they represent the

01:12:55.020 church who are are they anyone specific there's some theories that they represent the 12 disciples

01:13:00.380 and the 12 tribes of israel um there there's reason to believe and there's some reasons to doubt it

01:13:06.460 because you know the 12 tribes of israel are they technically the church uh you know there there were

01:13:11.660 different times i don't know that my short answer i think they represent the church who who the 24 exactly

01:13:17.420 are um again the the 12 apostle 12 tribes makes sense but there's still there's some problems with

01:13:25.420 it i don't think i don't think it's definitive but i'm just comfortable saying that i believe they

01:13:28.940 represent the church also they have the crowns and you know in in that praise of worship thing they

01:13:34.460 were talking about you know we you've made us kings and priests and we see in chapter four they cast

01:13:38.620 their crowns down before the throne so we say yeah you've given us the authority and we're telling you that

01:13:43.260 you know we appreciate it but we're giving it back to you we're we're acknowledging that it comes from

01:13:47.100 you it's not our authorities your authority that you gave to us yep they i mean they they always

01:13:53.180 wanted the kings right they were asking you said take your king and i guess give it back now it's

01:13:56.940 not working too good we don't want this anymore yeah i'm talking about kings a little bit down the

01:14:02.620 road and what the definition of a king actually is a king and i'll give it to you right now quickly

01:14:06.620 a king is someone who is supposed to lead during a time of war and conflict

01:14:11.340 they're not supposed to lead during a time of peace during a time of peace you're supposed to have a

01:14:14.380 leader who and a leader is someone who um who pushes forward the who facilitates the purpose and

01:14:20.140 progress of others a king comes in during a military campaign puts the country under martial law

01:14:26.380 temporarily to defeat an evil then they're supposed to step down and let a leader come forth so jesus is

01:14:33.740 only a king during armageddon and but he acts as a king in the in the millennial kingdom because that's

01:14:42.060 what people have asked for but i'm getting way ahead of myself so i want to give a quick quick

01:14:47.260 preview for next for next week um and that preview is this there there are two there's the mainline

01:14:56.700 interpretation of the of the four horsemen and the six seals and that mainline interpretation is

01:15:00.940 that this is the beginning of the tribulation that the four horsemen are from god they're starting to

01:15:05.020 judge the earth and the other seals are a part of the beginning of the judgment i have a very different

01:15:09.340 take so i'm going to give you that i'm going to explain you know the the traditional interpretation

01:15:13.500 then i'll give you the the ed mabry interpretation that i believe because i don't think these four

01:15:19.260 horsemen are from god i think they're actually i think i mentioned earlier i think they're a false

01:15:22.620 apocalypse to set up a false messiah interesting and we're going to get nephilim aliens and project

01:15:30.140 blue beam as a part of this as well oh man you had you had my interest now you have my attention

01:15:36.860 yes we got to make sure this this has to be this coming friday we got to make sure that we we

01:15:41.420 position things you know to the best of our abilities to to give it the time allotted i'm

01:15:45.580 very excited for this uh this is i'm actually i'm leaving i'm leaving tomorrow for i'm on a vacation

01:15:50.140 for a week but i'll be back i'm going we're going to hawaii tomorrow but i i get back thursday night

01:15:56.460 so i will be a little groggy but i'll be raring to go on friday wherever you go in hawaii i hope it has a blue

01:16:02.940 roof oh man i hope that you can uh you can you can escape whatever potential space lasers uh they

01:16:11.100 launch at at your resort yes i wanted to say that uh the whole idea of a king during war um donald

01:16:20.540 what kind of war i know the idea of a king that you know that the king is there for war

01:16:27.260 donald trump feels to me as that like person that i would say king and not say it in a glorious way

01:16:33.260 like it's not that i'm i'm not anti-trump not pro-trump i'm just watching objectively clearly

01:16:38.220 the best choice but this is not politics but when i look at them and they they say like god emperor

01:16:43.900 trump like as a joke that's a meme this is a king thing that they're doing and this is we're very much

01:16:50.220 at war then you talked about martial law you talked about all that conspiracy stuff that dave's been

01:16:54.860 freaking out about for the last 15 years and i'm like yeah that's the dude that's the dude that

01:17:00.620 comes back well understand that we are led by kings now because the elohim over the nation they wanted

01:17:05.980 kings because they wanted war so that they could conquer others israel was not supposed to have a

01:17:10.220 king they're supposed to have jehovah lead them but they asked for a king because they had were

01:17:13.820 surrounded by their enemies because they didn't they never took possession of the entire farmers land

01:17:17.420 but here's the thing a king is supposed to step down because people don't want to be under

01:17:21.340 martial law we'll endure it temporarily because you know for the conflict but after the conflict

01:17:26.300 is over we want to be free so how does a king maintain power they double down with their force

01:17:31.740 or they create more wars to get us into to justify their existence and that's kind of the history

01:17:37.020 of our entire world we've all been ruled by kings and they keep us under their thumb either by

01:17:41.740 martial law you know a police force i don't mean like you know regular police officers who are just you

01:17:46.220 know enforcing the laws of the land i mean by military type force keeping us in fear and um or

01:17:53.100 and or keeping us in perpetual wars so that we never have a reason to depose the king because we

01:17:59.820 need them to lead us in war that's that's been the history of the u.s world several decades now

01:18:05.580 let me ask you ed besides all the earthly riches you can get as king president dictator whatever do you

01:18:11.820 think that there's uh that these people are really dealing with like a spiritual benefit like spiritual

01:18:17.180 in the sense of they're dealing they're the guy that's underneath you know moloch or whoever that

01:18:22.700 is like they're the next dude now so like is they're getting worship it's yeah they're they're

01:18:28.940 garnering that worship worship is addictive not just for the elohim but for us i mean look celebrities

01:18:34.620 they enjoy all that worship they get and there's nothing sadder than a celebrity whose celebrity had died

01:18:39.980 down because they they've been used to being you know adored and now they're you know as they as

01:18:45.900 they age they age out you know musicians like when i was a kid they're not you know they may they're

01:18:52.780 still hanging out they're still doing their thing but they're not as popular as you know the the

01:18:56.460 current musicians but they're still chasing it yeah they're still chasing it and it drives them nuts

01:19:01.660 celebrities go completely insane because we aren't we aren't geared to receive that type of spiritual

01:19:06.860 transference which is what worship is worship is a spiritual transfer you go to a concert what are

01:19:11.660 you doing you're you're yelling you're screaming you're you're offering your spiritual energy to

01:19:16.380 that person on the stage or or that or that football team or baseball team playing you're worshiping them

01:19:22.460 that's fascinating because i think top and i both have this in common with each other i can't go to a

01:19:27.420 show and like jump around and scream i simply can't do it like i went to a show not long ago we went to

01:19:32.940 new orleans i went to see one of my favorite bands and i just looked around most of the time at like

01:19:37.900 the crowd is there they're jumping and they're screaming and they're screaming the lyrics and

01:19:42.060 they're like all their energy is going towards the stage and i'm looking at this like this is

01:19:46.940 fascinating and disturbing and i don't want to do it but but it's real i mean you go for the home home

01:19:54.700 field advantage is a real thing when when when your team when your fans are cheering for you the home team

01:19:59.740 has that advantage because that spiritual energy can actually energize them and make them play better

01:20:03.740 yeah oh yeah absolutely it's a it's a real thing and when you don't have it anymore it's like being

01:20:09.260 a heroin addict and having no more heroin yeah i was just listening to somebody talk about um being on

01:20:16.540 a stage and and having the create the crowd react to what they were saying and how it was an unbelievable

01:20:22.940 feeling and uh clint right yeah dude i was listening to clint he was talking at a he opened up for donald

01:20:30.140 trump at the libertarian convention wow and he's just like he's like you have no idea and i thought

01:20:34.940 about it and i was like i want no part of that yeah dude i don't want it i hate it it's i want to say

01:20:40.060 one more thing tops i know you got to go at the bottom of the hour but there are there's another kind

01:20:44.940 of worship there's the adoration worship where you know you just yeah you're great but there's there's

01:20:48.780 another kind of worship that these entities can feed off of and that's fear oh yeah because fear

01:20:54.300 is again you're you're still focusing your spiritual energy in a negative way towards these entities and

01:20:58.940 they can feed off that too so i think that the moloch types like fear and the luciferian types like the

01:21:04.940 adoration so just so just remember when you they're keeping us in a state of fear they can feed off that

01:21:10.780 too and that's addictive to them as well so whether you're praising them or you're afraid of them

01:21:14.780 them either one of those the elohim will take as their worship i'll tell you what i think they

01:21:19.340 don't like when you laugh at them and no they don't like that at all they don't like that it's

01:21:24.540 something that it's very hard for them to deal with that we figured it out that's why that's why

01:21:28.380 i continue to make a mockery of i told my friend everything he's running he was running for vice

01:21:32.940 president in a libertarian party he opened up for trump and all this it turned out to be a complete

01:21:38.380 miserable flop and i looked at him and i said are you ready are we ready to go full clown pill

01:21:43.900 like meaning are you ready to take this not the white pill not the red pill not the black pill

01:21:48.380 we're taking the clown pill and he said yes i absolutely am i said perfect let's move let's

01:21:53.740 laugh hey oh top i got i got one more i have a t-shirt idea for you okay i was thinking about

01:21:59.980 this when i was working on my retirement um you know shuffling around my stuff my 401k and things like

01:22:03.740 that it should be called the rapture of my retirement plan let's write that down we're gonna make that for

01:22:11.500 ed there we go i just i thought about that'd be a great t-shirt and then i was like up until top

01:22:15.900 that next time we next time we're on it's just i don't know if it's the first rapture the second

01:22:19.580 rapture or the third rapture aiming for the second one at least i get it if i'm not the first one

01:22:24.620 i get it oh all right top you want to bring it in for landing i think that was a yeah this was a

01:22:29.740 great episode every time like if we did three in a row this week and it's hard to get to like it's

01:22:35.420 it's hard like right my friends are in the pool right now and i got other stuff to do but i'm like

01:22:40.220 i made it here and every time i do this one i'm like this was just worth it it was so worth it like

01:22:47.100 doesn't matter what what i was like sacrificing to do to do this completely worth it and i hope the

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01:23:09.740 this i was looking through your your stuff on here like from 10 15 years ago yeah it's crazy wow 15

01:23:17.660 years of putting it right yeah i started doing it in 2010 just doing just blogging just like putting

01:23:22.620 my thoughts out there i started podcasting in like 2017 and doing and doing my revelation series like

01:23:27.980 around covet because i had nothing else to do guys if you really believe like wild we're engaged in

01:23:33.580 spiritual warfare and during this episode uh ed you said the way that you engage in spiritual

01:23:38.940 warfare is is through words uh you know that these are the people you want to support the people that

01:23:44.860 are saying arguably dangerous things for the time that we're in right now and i imagine it's gonna get

01:23:51.020 more dangerous february 2010 okay wow we've been doing this show doesn't like whales how long were you

01:23:57.500 doing the show for it like a couple of months uh seven months seven months now we've been doing this

01:24:02.780 yeah like i wonder if it'll like do this should we should we pour more effort into it and i'm like ed's

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01:24:23.740 going to do next but i i was talking to a friend of mine earlier this week and i'm something's

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01:24:33.820 been getting a lot of requests from your listeners from other listeners some other podcasts i've been

01:24:37.980 on asking for certain things from me and i'm going to try to do um some things i'm being asked for

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01:24:53.900 and and next week of course and then we're gonna all right we're gonna have other guests next week

01:24:57.420 as well but i gotta get out of here we don't know what's going on we don't know what's going

01:25:01.660 on i'm sure we're doing we're doing some sort of content stick around guys yeah guys again thank

01:25:05.980 you ed all right thank you ed thank you guys appreciate it peace out guys the greatest hypnotist on

01:25:10.940 planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room it is constantly telling us what to believe

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Nephilim Death Squad - June 01, 2024

Revelation Series Part V w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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