Nephilim Death Squad - August 18, 2026


Spiritual Warfare w⧸ Ed Mabrie and John Lenhart Pt. 2


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00:01:02.200 Top Lops and Productions.
00:01:30.000 we are the characters in the game i don't know if we need to do a whole ass intro like we did
00:01:58.940 the other day this is part two of the other day yesterday that was yesterday yeah welcome back
00:02:02.880 ladies and gentlemen to another episode of nephilim death squad live from the standard coffee shop on
00:02:07.040 the day of the vip day we actually have people filing in as we speak so we have a little crowd
00:02:12.160 behind us which is a crowd of creators back there yeah what's up guys yeah make some noise in the
00:02:16.420 background just keep talking and yeah whatever ignore us they're all yeah they don't care what's
00:02:20.420 going on up here uh i am david lee corvo aka the raven that's top lops of the father of disinformation
00:02:25.900 And we are joined once again by Ed Mabry and John Lenhart.
00:02:29.780 Guys, before we get into the rest of this conversation, part two of the spiritual warfare discussion,
00:02:33.780 let's talk once again about where we can find your work.
00:02:37.740 And we're going to start with Ed.
00:02:39.280 Yeah, you can find my work on faithbyreason.net.
00:02:41.940 That is the website I've been working on and working with for over a decade now.
00:02:47.400 Hundreds of hours of study material there.
00:02:50.080 My blogs, my podcasts, my videos, my Revelation series, the ongoing Genesis series.
00:02:54.200 and that's where you can access the Spiritual Warfare course.
00:02:58.480 And when you get in there, you sign up for it.
00:03:01.720 We have those weekly lessons that are dropping every Wednesday,
00:03:04.940 except for yesterday.
00:03:05.680 It dropped on Thursday because I'm here.
00:03:07.400 You guys are busy.
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00:03:10.680 And just for all of you mobile users who have been having issues working on it,
00:03:15.940 if you notice that the website has changed in order to,
00:03:19.880 because I made it more mobile-friendly, migrated everything over,
00:03:22.220 there's still a few issues we're working out.
00:03:23.500 So please be patient. Hang in there for that.
00:03:26.460 There's also my Patreon, which is patreon.com slash faithbyreason.
00:03:31.100 That's where you can become a part of the Bible study.
00:03:34.040 We do once a month for a year.
00:03:36.340 We go through the entire Bible in a year from the supernatural point of view.
00:03:39.600 You can also get all my material drops there first and Q&As, all that good stuff there.
00:03:45.300 Exclusive bonus episodes, all there.
00:03:47.800 Very cool. A lot of content.
00:03:49.880 Once again, I want to reiterate, when you go to faithbyreason.net,
00:03:52.060 The little thing at the bottom says one of 52 pages, so a lot of resources there.
00:03:57.880 If you are looking for help, a great place to go.
00:04:00.580 John, before we get into the conversation, let's talk about where we can find your work.
00:04:05.320 ModelingGod.com.
00:04:06.680 That's where you can purchase both my books.
00:04:09.260 Awesome, and that came into play a lot during yesterday's conversation, right, as far as modeling God goes, understanding God, understanding the nature of God.
00:04:17.200 That's right, guys.
00:04:17.760 go check out uh part one of this episode if you haven't watched part one yet because i'm sure
00:04:22.360 it's not going to make much sense if you don't so go do that and then watch this one if you
00:04:27.520 haven't watched that one yes hang out yeah or just hey you can enjoy it but you know if you
00:04:31.740 want the full context yesterday's episode is important so um where did we leave off yesterday
00:04:37.120 or where are we starting today uh it feels like we kind of got literally about to the halfway
00:04:41.600 point in that discussion yeah we did so i'll give like maybe a quick one minute recap of what we
00:04:45.680 talked about in a big picture since we kind of define what spiritual warfare is,
00:04:48.800 that spiritual warfare is done with words. Spiritual warfare is words spoken
00:04:53.180 with authority, the authority of Jesus, with the goal of pushing the enemy out of
00:04:58.700 your life. Right. That's what it's all about. The enemy's been defeated, but they
00:05:02.360 can still speak to us, they can still oppress us, they can still use what we
00:05:06.460 give them to, not to violate our sovereignty, but in our sovereignty we
00:05:10.800 can make covenants inadvertently with them. Words that we speak over ourselves,
00:05:15.260 Others speak over us that we agree with as a covenant, and that allows them to come in and oppress us.
00:05:21.260 But we have the authority through Jesus to push them out.
00:05:23.940 So that's what spiritual warfare is.
00:05:25.600 That's what we talked about.
00:05:26.700 We talked about going on defense first because where you start off is you are being attacked.
00:05:32.500 You're being pushed back.
00:05:34.460 But the first thing is defense, and defense teaches you to stand.
00:05:38.360 You're not being pushed back anymore.
00:05:39.400 Now you're in a stance where you can start going forward.
00:05:41.360 It's getting to know yourself, and John helps with that.
00:05:44.120 He helps you understand who you are uniquely because you're attacked uniquely, not in a blanket way.
00:05:48.540 But these entities know you.
00:05:50.540 They know you as well as yourself.
00:05:51.960 You know yourself, if not better.
00:05:54.240 And so once you know who you are and you know how they attack you, that's when you can defend yourself against it.
00:05:59.520 So we talked about that.
00:06:00.500 And then we talked about going on offense.
00:06:02.500 And the goal of offense is, again, to push them back.
00:06:05.340 First you take a stand.
00:06:06.700 You learn to withstand.
00:06:08.000 And then you learn to start pushing them back.
00:06:09.820 And that's the first six months of the course.
00:06:12.360 Okay.
00:06:12.620 Three months defense.
00:06:13.540 three months offense then three months after that which we'll be talking about is special situations
00:06:18.500 okay it's dealing with really strong enemies dealing with addictions john's going to talk
00:06:23.660 about that generational curses um getting into nutrition and things like that um fasting jesus
00:06:30.840 fasted a lot why well there's there's spiritual component to it and then we're going to end
00:06:34.740 talking about the last three months which is forming a generative community teaching you how
00:06:39.500 to teach this to others so we can build an army got you so one of the things you said before we
00:06:44.240 passed the ball to john that i that it just dawned on me you know we talked a lot yesterday about
00:06:47.880 this idea of in order to start this you need to do we use the joke of like auditing within the
00:06:54.700 sense of scientology uh but i think it is a good applicable word here um you have to know the
00:07:02.080 things that made you who you are and and you know your patterns of behavior and oftentimes those are
00:07:07.620 really uncomfortable because you know it turns out a lot of it is trauma that we'd rather not
00:07:12.140 revisit but what you said there about the enemy knowing you is it shows you how much of a key
00:07:19.680 component that really is like the enemy knows you yeah they know what made you and they played a
00:07:24.720 role in what made you as well right so they have an intimate understanding of how to attack you
00:07:29.580 so if it doesn't sound too convincing to you that you need to know yourself in order to operate in
00:07:37.080 who you truly are supposed to be just look over at the opposite side and look what they're doing
00:07:42.220 they know you pretty intimately and they're weaponizing that against you so exactly it's
00:07:47.100 really important because we have what are called familiar spirits yeah jesus talks about them
00:07:52.500 they talk they're talked about in the bible but you also have you know the the old um cartoons
00:07:56.320 you'll see like an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other that's not far from the truth
00:08:00.840 because jesus speaks about you know children children having a guardian angel yeah and that
00:08:05.440 That the good angel knows you, the good Elohim knows you, and also the familiar spirit knows you.
00:08:11.300 It's funny, I have a friend, I may have talked about this on the show in the past.
00:08:14.580 She went to, she had an aunt who passed away.
00:08:17.640 Okay.
00:08:18.020 And she went to a seance in order to, yeah, I know, in order to talk to the spirit of her aunt.
00:08:23.380 And I just questioned her afterwards.
00:08:25.380 I said, what happened?
00:08:26.060 She said, oh, my aunt's spirit came to visit us.
00:08:28.980 Because this spirit knew everything my aunt knew.
00:08:32.300 I'm like, that was not your aunt.
00:08:33.840 That was your aunt's familiar spirit.
00:08:35.440 Yeah. Who knew your aunt so well. And that's why they were able to tell you all these things about your aunt.
00:08:41.020 Yep. And, you know, and so when you pass on your familiar spirit, go to somebody else.
00:08:44.800 It's weird, man, because that it's such a simplistic explanation, puts a real hole in that experience.
00:08:48.980 At least what it should do is so a certain degree of reasonable doubt in the mind.
00:08:53.540 I mean, you're already dealing with a realm you don't understand.
00:08:55.940 If you're willing to admit that you think that your aunt spoke to you.
00:08:58.960 All right. You're already in territory that you don't understand.
00:09:00.980 If somebody should come to you and say, there are spirits all around who know you very intimately, who also know your aunt, and they're communicating with one another and they're masquerading as loved ones, the idea that you would recoil or scoff at that, and I understand why.
00:09:15.500 It's an emotional thing.
00:09:16.460 You think this is your aunt.
00:09:17.880 You lost your aunt.
00:09:18.660 You're in a desperate situation or a vulnerable place.
00:09:22.220 Or you're trying to find her will and you want to know where she is.
00:09:24.080 Right, right, right.
00:09:24.900 But in that vulnerability, unless you're looking for her will, and even that, they're going to take advantage of that sort of greed, right?
00:09:30.840 That's a thing that gives them access to you.
00:09:32.500 But in that vulnerability, that's when they do these things.
00:09:35.640 Go ahead.
00:09:36.300 Well, you just made a great point that you do that and you give access to them.
00:09:40.700 They can't get access to you unless you state your will.
00:09:44.040 You just might not know you're stating your will.
00:09:45.720 So that's a great point.
00:09:47.180 And one more thing I'll say on that and we can move on to something else because it was reminding me of some other people I've encountered who are really into the mysticism and whatnot.
00:09:56.080 And they'll say, you know, I've had past lives.
00:09:57.660 That's a huge thing that I hear about
00:09:59.660 Because there are people who talk about
00:10:01.540 Christian reincarnation
00:10:03.000 You know, we reincarnate 0.99
00:10:05.220 Which I don't believe
00:10:06.600 Shout out to Dan Duvall
00:10:07.820 I said it, not them, alright, it was me who said it
00:10:10.780 We do not want a lawsuit, Dan
00:10:12.500 No, that's right, we love him
00:10:14.020 Yeah, well Paul says it's appointed unto man once to die
00:10:16.580 And then the judgment
00:10:17.160 There's other biblical reasons to believe in it
00:10:19.700 But some people who do say, well, I've had past lives
00:10:21.760 Because I have memories of me in the past
00:10:24.400 Doing all these things
00:10:25.360 As I was in Atlantis or I was all these other things.
00:10:28.100 Those aren't your memories.
00:10:29.240 Those are the memories of these entities who have been around for thousands of years.
00:10:32.760 The Nephilim, they have been around for all this time.
00:10:35.020 So they can say, oh, yeah, you were an Egyptian high priestess.
00:10:37.160 No, you weren't. 0.99
00:10:37.860 Yeah, they can paint that picture pretty good for you.
00:10:39.520 You are a beautician in Idaho.
00:10:41.820 Yeah, exactly. 0.96
00:10:43.280 You were not a princess in Egypt.
00:10:45.260 That's a familiar spirit who is speaking to you.
00:10:47.860 So just keep those things in mind.
00:10:49.020 But the problem is, as John was saying, when you dive into that, you are giving them access.
00:10:55.360 There is sovereignty that we all have that cannot be violated by these entities.
00:11:00.060 They cannot do it without our permission.
00:11:02.160 But they are always trying to find a way to do that.
00:11:04.300 And God is just, so they're justified in what they're doing.
00:11:07.360 Exactly.
00:11:07.780 Even if you're not a Christian.
00:11:09.380 Because you guys have had people on the show talk about they were not Christians, but they were feeling oppressed or whatever, and they say the name of Jesus, and these things flee.
00:11:16.260 They don't even believe in Jesus.
00:11:18.160 But they still can repel these things.
00:11:22.140 They can play defense.
00:11:22.820 They cannot go on offense.
00:11:23.660 but even if you're a non-believer you can play defense because you have you can still you have
00:11:29.820 to allow them in so you can also stop that but you can't go on offense you don't have offense
00:11:33.680 without jesus that instance of of a non-believer calling on the name of christ is still in a way
00:11:40.400 i know it's not commonly looked at but it is faith right because you are or else you would
00:11:46.440 not be calling on christ and there is some seed of faith there the smallest amount but
00:11:52.180 mustard seed, right? Two things. I will say
00:11:54.680 if they do that and it works, they're dealing
00:11:56.800 with a low-level spirit. Because we're going
00:11:58.780 to talk about some of these special situations
00:12:00.760 where you're dealing with really powerful ones. And a good
00:12:02.700 example of that not working is
00:12:04.540 the incident in the book of Acts with
00:12:06.480 the seven sons of Sceva, which is hilarious
00:12:08.820 when you think about it. When they come and they say,
00:12:10.660 you know, we're casting you out, talking to a demon,
00:12:13.100 we're going to cast you out in the name of the Jesus 0.97
00:12:14.800 who Paul speaks of.
00:12:16.680 And the demon says, well, Jesus we know, 0.98
00:12:18.760 and Paul we know, but who the hell are you? 0.94
00:12:20.160 then they just beat the crap out of them well for me the reason i asked that is because i had 0.80
00:12:25.200 an incident where i ended up calling on christ and that forever changed the trajectory of my
00:12:29.340 my life and my ideas and uh and i wasn't born and raised religious wasn't in the church didn't know
00:12:35.760 jesus at all really knew a caricature of jesus that we get commonly in the west and
00:12:40.360 and i think that if you're doing it arrogantly or something like that if you think this is just
00:12:46.420 the right combination of words to say to cause this spirit to bend to your will there's no faith
00:12:51.900 in that but for me there was an incredible amount of desperation and even though i didn't know god
00:12:56.680 even though i didn't know jesus uh i still had this little seed of faith that in my desperation
00:13:02.780 is all that was left and so i pulled that seed out and i threw it at this thing and so i think
00:13:07.820 in some ways the reason it worked for me was god was like oh that's interesting okay you have
00:13:13.720 enough faith that in this moment of desperation i'm who you turn to okay we're gonna alleviate
00:13:18.200 this we're gonna stop this that was that was grace yeah you were given just as you can give
00:13:22.800 an opening to the enemy you can also give an opening to god yeah and because god's not going
00:13:27.560 to violate your sovereignty either but when you say jesus i i believe there's i believe there's
00:13:31.660 something to this jesus thing now you're opening the door you're cracking it open so the holy
00:13:35.260 spirit can start flowing there yeah yeah so you're going to be dealing with uh i guess uh
00:13:41.300 this idea of generational iniquity in a way and uh past life trauma that people assume that
00:13:47.040 they're having are you guys uh thinking or focusing on possible mk ultra techniques that
00:13:54.760 are performed on kids at certain point because this is like with our show it's it's a it's a big
00:13:59.600 deal it's it's what we talk about a lot and we we know that there's a concerted effort to get these
00:14:04.960 kids when they're young with whether it be with like the pink drink or frequency technology or
00:14:09.040 whatever it is, they're getting them young.
00:14:11.760 And I feel like at maybe every level, they've gotten to almost every kid
00:14:16.580 that's at least in the public school system or watches TV or something.
00:14:20.620 Yeah, this raises a number of things here.
00:14:25.060 My passion is synaptic pruning.
00:14:28.580 So basically at 13, all of us lost connections in our brain.
00:14:34.720 At 11, you know, 11-year-olds are the smartest kids you're going to ever meet.
00:14:37.860 and they're smarter than all of us because they have access to all the trees in the brain of their
00:14:42.140 forest every dendrite is you know your brain's made up of dendrites and that's the greek word
00:14:47.260 for tree at 13 the dendrites you don't use get pruned away and kids like you you see this and
00:14:55.620 at 14 is when everybody has problems with with drugs and everything else more than 100 years ago
00:15:00.440 teenagers changed the world because they use synaptic pruning to become geniuses what we do
00:15:06.600 and what the schools do and everything is they sink these kids at 9, 10, 11 emotionally
00:15:11.500 and then they synaptically prune back up to even.
00:15:14.440 Everybody goes, they're fine.
00:15:16.220 And I always said, like, if we would take a generation of kids,
00:15:19.320 like 10, 15 years of kids and synaptically prune them,
00:15:22.220 we'd all be living in Wakanda because we'd have all these geniuses.
00:15:25.800 So that's where it's like.
00:15:26.960 Raven would hate that.
00:15:28.540 Wakanda forever.
00:15:29.420 I don't know what you're doing. 0.98
00:15:31.320 But, you know, that's the thing is they are breaking these kids
00:15:34.780 and they're distancing them from who they were created to be.
00:15:37.900 And we talked about that yesterday.
00:15:39.300 Transformation is re-transformation in the Bible.
00:15:42.060 When it says be transformed by the renewing of your mind, renewing,
00:15:47.040 not a new mind but get back to what the mind or soul God gave you.
00:15:51.480 So, yeah, I went into the schools and dealt with a lot of kids
00:15:56.360 who were preteen or teenage, EBD, emotional behavioral disorder,
00:16:01.040 with diagnosed mental issues.
00:16:02.620 and I was able to get them back into regular education.
00:16:06.100 And you can talk to anybody.
00:16:08.040 That never happens.
00:16:09.340 And so it is undoing all this trauma.
00:16:12.220 That's all they're doing is they're traumatizing the kids.
00:16:14.440 And sometimes you can traumatize those kids where they split.
00:16:17.340 Right.
00:16:17.700 That's the point.
00:16:18.700 Yeah.
00:16:19.460 And the interesting thing is when you're a kid, when you're that young,
00:16:23.700 like John was saying, you're a genius.
00:16:25.160 You have that genius potential because you have access to so much.
00:16:28.100 That's why kids can learn multiple languages.
00:16:30.620 You know, my kids right now, my oldest is 12, so he's about, John and I were talking about this yesterday,
00:16:35.060 he's about to go to that synaptic pruning because he's becoming a teenager.
00:16:37.720 He's going to become nuts like we all did when we were pruned.
00:16:40.980 But we want to get him over that.
00:16:42.240 But, you know, they've learned three languages.
00:16:45.940 I mean, not fluently, but they, when my kids, when they were, before preschool,
00:16:52.480 their caretaker was, she was Chinese and she spoke fluent Mandarin.
00:16:57.040 And my kids were understanding Mandarin at the time.
00:16:59.800 That's a complex language, yeah.
00:17:01.060 Yeah, very much.
00:17:01.760 But I would pick them up.
00:17:03.680 I would hear her say, I'm not going to try to imitate H. 0.90
00:17:06.340 Don't do it.
00:17:06.820 You're going to upset Nancy.
00:17:08.540 Be careful.
00:17:09.240 It's canceled.
00:17:09.860 I was going to say, I'm about to get canceled.
00:17:11.680 Oh, you want to chop this away?
00:17:12.740 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:17:14.080 No, but no, she was speaking actual Mandarin.
00:17:15.640 And they were like, OK.
00:17:16.520 They would nod. 0.99
00:17:17.200 She was telling them, go get your coat in Mandarin. 0.99
00:17:19.080 My kid would go get his coat.
00:17:19.940 I'm like, what's going on?
00:17:20.740 That's funny.
00:17:21.360 Because they have all that knowledge.
00:17:24.160 As John was saying, teenagers were changing the world.
00:17:26.240 Joan of Arc, all these different teenagers, the disciples.
00:17:29.300 Yeah.
00:17:29.460 We have this idea from our Sunday school books that the disciples were like these dudes with beards at the time.
00:17:34.380 Oh, yeah, that's how they're depicted often, right?
00:17:36.200 They were teenagers because that was a time when a rabbi would take students was when they were at that teenage.
00:17:42.840 The oldest one was Peter.
00:17:44.020 Peter was the only one who was over 20 because he had to pay the tax.
00:17:47.160 The other ones were teenagers.
00:17:48.760 The apostle John was the youngest, so he was probably 12 or 13.
00:17:51.480 Wow.
00:17:52.100 Because that's when they start to learn because they know that this is the point where they can take that information in. 0.99
00:17:58.140 And that's why these MKUltra assholes, sorry, that's horrible. 0.99
00:18:03.000 They target children. 0.99
00:18:03.940 Because the children are able to take all this information in and they train them and make them into assassins or monsters, all those sorts of things. 0.98
00:18:12.440 Because they, not just because they're sick bastards who want to do these things to kids, but because kids can actually take on all that information and learn it and just become all these different personalities. 0.93
00:18:24.500 Yeah. 0.98
00:18:24.700 But back to your point, Top, although we probably won't talk directly about MKUltra, maybe a little bit, but the point of it is, yes, that is a type of generational trauma because a lot of these, many of them have had this happen generation after generation.
00:18:40.980 If you read the books like Transformation of America by, what's it, Kathy O'Brien and Bryce Taylor and the folks who have gone through this, her father got her into that stuff because it happened generations back.
00:18:53.280 So that is a generational curse, because what the generational curse is, is passing on this trauma, these words, onto the next generation.
00:19:02.040 But the good news is that because it's being done in the demonic realm, in the spiritual realm, the power of the blood of Jesus can still break it.
00:19:11.440 Now, that is a tough situation, which is why it's in part three, because you need to know the basis of defense and offense first when you get to these situations, because it's powerful.
00:19:19.740 It's not going to be—you can't just go to a kid who's been traumatized like that and say, in the name of Jesus, you are healed.
00:19:25.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:26.360 It's going to take a lot more work than that because you're dealing with more powerful entities.
00:19:29.940 You're dealing with tougher situations.
00:19:33.020 I think it also takes some part of the individual who's gone through it to do that, right?
00:19:38.820 Because you ultimately need to accept Christ into your heart.
00:19:43.600 So, you know, doing it like putting your hand on a kid's head and trying to cleanse the iniquity of their bloodline.
00:19:51.640 We were talking recently about this idea of like sometimes, you know, God will go like, you know, that thing's got a legal right to be there.
00:20:00.840 And that's not you.
00:20:02.160 That's not your fight.
00:20:03.260 That's not like you can't go in there like like people that go and try to engage in spiritual warfare and various strongholds.
00:20:09.180 The guy that was a missionary in India.
00:20:11.220 Right.
00:20:11.420 Yeah.
00:20:11.580 And he came out, well, he was at, he came to the church that we go to.
00:20:14.940 And I think that was like a good message for you, whatever he was talking about.
00:20:17.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
00:20:18.200 But something I took away was like, he was like, man, he was crying.
00:20:21.260 The guy was crying.
00:20:21.860 He's like, we haven't saved one soul.
00:20:23.500 Like we haven't.
00:20:24.300 He'd been doing it for how long?
00:20:25.580 It's been so long.
00:20:26.380 Nine years.
00:20:26.900 Yeah, nine or ten years.
00:20:27.940 And it begs a question, which I know it's not right, but like, I'm like, well, why are you there?
00:20:33.740 Yeah.
00:20:33.880 Like, maybe go home.
00:20:35.900 But I don't know.
00:20:36.500 It's a spiritual principality that has a right over that nation.
00:20:39.200 Yeah.
00:20:39.600 You gotta realize that. 0.98
00:20:40.540 They're territorial. 0.85
00:20:41.580 Definitely. That's something I talked about a few weeks ago, I think earlier, yeah, last month, that these entities have territories.
00:20:51.040 If you go back to the Deuteronomy 32, where it says, you know, after Babel, when the nations were divided, God divided them according to the number of the Benaiah Elohim.
00:21:03.780 Right, a little slice of the pie. 0.63
00:21:05.000 Right. And they have legal authority over that area. 1.00
00:21:07.680 But again, through Jesus, that supersedes that.
00:21:11.060 So just to go brief, and Jaya, I want you to chime in on this, is that there's a process because everything is done legally.
00:21:19.080 We talked about this yesterday.
00:21:20.320 Everything is done through laws and covenant.
00:21:22.480 And there is a courtroom in heaven.
00:21:24.840 We see it in the book of Daniel, in Daniel chapter 7, when Daniel has a vision of those four beasts who represent the four world empires that were there during Daniel's time.
00:21:36.460 Babylon, the lion with the heart of a man who was Nebuchadnezzar, all the way to the
00:21:40.040 Medo-Persian Empire, then the Greek Empire, and then the Roman Empire, which I believe
00:21:45.080 it lasts to this day. 0.57
00:21:46.120 It didn't.
00:21:46.900 The Roman Empire, yeah, they said it fell.
00:21:48.320 No, it just went from a...
00:21:50.280 It rebranded.
00:21:51.020 It rebranded.
00:21:51.760 It went from a, what do you call it, a senatorial, imperial senatorial rule to a theocracy.
00:21:58.680 Yeah. 0.99
00:21:59.220 Which, and so that's my cue to piss off the Catholics. 0.99
00:22:02.980 Oh, yeah. 0.99
00:22:03.380 But it's ruled to this day.
00:22:05.560 through them. But the point is that that's the empire that's going to last until the very end.
00:22:12.300 But then after that, it says that you saw the Ancient of Days on a throne. That's one of the
00:22:19.300 titles of Jehovah, of God. And books were opened, and there were thrones set up. Now, in a Jewish
00:22:24.240 mind, an Israelite mind, they know, oh, this is a courtroom scene. So this was taken to the 0.92
00:22:29.460 courtroom of Jehovah, and he decreed that a son of man riding on the clouds, one of the names
00:22:35.420 of God was he who rides on the clouds. It came from the Exodus. So you have a son of man, a man
00:22:40.520 with the authority of Jehovah is going to inherit these nations. So yeah, here's your plan, bad 0.95
00:22:44.540 guys. You're going to try to rule the world through these four empires. Great. My plan is I'm going to
00:22:48.840 have a man with the authority of God who's going to supplant them. So supplant them and he's going
00:22:54.280 to inherit the nations. The point of that is there is a courtroom. And in that courtroom, if you have 0.83
00:22:57.960 the legal right, then you go before that courtroom. So what we teach is how to enter that courtroom.
00:23:02.860 And this is based on the Bible.
00:23:05.120 And in Psalms, what does it say?
00:23:06.960 Enter into his courtrooms with praise.
00:23:08.940 So you enter into his courtroom, first of all, because you have the authority through Jesus to enter into that courtroom.
00:23:14.200 You enter it with praise and you plead your case.
00:23:16.360 And you say that I have the authority over these bloodlines, these generational curses.
00:23:21.560 This is a covenant was made.
00:23:23.380 And I break it now in the name of Jesus.
00:23:27.580 And you go through the process.
00:23:28.920 And depending on what you're dealing with and how tough that covenant is, you're going to have to do some confession of sins.
00:23:35.660 You may have to find out more information.
00:23:37.480 You may have to go back and find out.
00:23:39.940 When you say, like, can we talk about confession a little bit?
00:23:42.780 Sure.
00:23:43.260 That idea.
00:23:44.080 I'm going to let John handle that.
00:23:44.960 Go ahead.
00:23:45.120 Trigger word.
00:23:45.940 No, no, no.
00:23:46.580 Because confession comes along with Catholicism.
00:23:50.200 And that generally means, like, saying it to somebody behind a curtain or one guy.
00:23:55.560 And you might not even have a relationship with this guy.
00:23:57.600 But to my knowledge, from my understanding, it means when you have, like, a band of people or people that you know well, like your church, your immediate church, you can go to them and confess, you know, be like, hey, I messed this up, man.
00:24:10.320 I don't know who else to talk to, but you understand what I'm going through.
00:24:13.500 Is that how you describe it as well, or what are you thinking?
00:24:16.400 Yeah, so what confession really is, is if you think about it, I like to look at it as, like, two people, usually like a husband and a wife, and the husband has done some things, okay?
00:24:27.600 The confession, I call it the full confession, is three steps.
00:24:31.680 So the first thing he should say is, I know what I did was wrong.
00:24:35.140 Like, I know yelling at you was wrong.
00:24:37.420 He needs to state it, okay?
00:24:39.800 Because what's happening in her brain is she's going, I can't trust him.
00:24:43.740 I can't relax around him because I don't even think he knows what he did wrong.
00:24:46.540 Okay.
00:24:47.300 I know yelling at you is wrong.
00:24:49.200 That repairs that part of it.
00:24:50.180 Wait, so you're not supposed to just go like, I'm sorry, whatever.
00:24:53.440 I, in modeling God, I say this in modeling God, there are no apologies in the Bible.
00:25:01.660 There are zero, apologies are a man-made way to avoid confession.
00:25:07.180 There are no apologies in the Bible.
00:25:08.700 It's confession.
00:25:10.100 So first thing is you state exactly what you did was wrong.
00:25:13.280 The second, and you're healing yourself because you're unconscious.
00:25:16.100 The second, so she could go, okay, he knows what he did was wrong, but he doesn't know
00:25:19.960 why he did it.
00:25:20.640 He could just do it again.
00:25:22.240 Right.
00:25:22.560 I know why I did it.
00:25:23.900 When I'm hanging out with my friends and I drink this and you say this, I do that.
00:25:27.880 Okay.
00:25:28.720 She's like, well, but he might just want to do it.
00:25:31.960 I don't want to do it again.
00:25:33.460 That's a full confession.
00:25:35.880 Perceiver, teacher, compassion.
00:25:38.380 So the confession, in a sense, then is confess to the person that you've wronged.
00:25:42.880 You've got to articulate that you understand.
00:25:45.700 So I will tell you this.
00:25:47.060 We talked about the intangible drivers yesterday.
00:25:49.160 In these school rooms, they will put all seven of them around public school.
00:25:56.360 And so I like to say, if I bully you, how many victims are there?
00:26:01.440 How many people did I bully after?
00:26:03.500 Well, right.
00:26:04.240 But even in this situation.
00:26:06.000 One.
00:26:07.780 If I hadn't been bullied, I wouldn't bully you.
00:26:11.320 And so I wrote a whole series on LinkedIn about the hypocrisy of bullying.
00:26:15.880 Because how are you going to deal with me bullying you?
00:26:18.000 without bullying me because the way we deal with the bullies we bully them these teachers have the
00:26:24.680 kid if i bullied you i'd go stand under the perceiver one and i'd say top i know what i did
00:26:30.620 was wrong and i explain it then i go stand under the teacher one i know why i did it here's why
00:26:35.400 i go stand in the compassion one i don't want to do it again that's a full confession so i've told
00:26:40.760 my unconscious, I don't want to do this again. So I'm cutting out my continual habit and addiction
00:26:48.180 of bullying. I'm fixing your brain. I go stand under a giver. And this is repentance now. See, 0.99
00:26:53.340 that's just confession. But justice says, you know, and I talk about this modeling God,
00:26:58.360 I hit you. You deserve a value in a sense. I deserve a punishment. And I draw it like over
00:27:04.420 our heads. But God can't equal it out because he doesn't know if you're going to hit me. If he
00:27:08.680 equaled it out and then you hit me, you'd have to equal that out. So forgiveness allows God to
00:27:14.040 equal it out. So that's the whole point. If you say, I'm not going to take out my justice on you,
00:27:19.200 John, God can now reward you and God can now nail me. So when someone comes up to you and goes,
00:27:25.520 you know, forgive me. What I'm trying to say is, Top, I don't want to be able to relax around you.
00:27:32.080 I don't want you to get back at me for me hitting you. What I'm really saying is I want to let God
00:27:36.420 get back at me sometime this week and wreck something that I really wanted to happen this
00:27:40.360 week. And it's like, well, I don't want that to happen. Repent. So I go stand on the giver and I
00:27:45.780 say, Top, what can I give or do to make up for this? Now, here's the real healing. In your brain,
00:27:54.220 me hitting you is not a good emotion. I'm now saying, what can I give or do to make up for it
00:28:00.720 so you have a good emotion? I'll say, if I slapped you right now, you wouldn't be happy. If I slapped
00:28:05.320 you and then gave you a million dollars because I slapped you. You'd probably laugh and tell 0.91
00:28:09.000 everybody the story. So it's the emotion. What we're doing to repair is I'm asking you what it
00:28:16.580 will take for you to feel good about me hitting you. And you say, like in the Old Testament,
00:28:21.040 it's like, give this person 20% more if they take something. That's really what's dealing
00:28:25.020 with emotion. The minister or server is do it. Now I do it. And then the administrator and
00:28:31.040 exhorter is, if I hit you, I'm going to tell Ed. Ed's going to say, what happened? I'm like,
00:28:36.180 oh, he's being a jerk. So Ed might not have thought anything about you. And then I told him 1.00
00:28:41.260 you're a jerk. Now, administrator exhorter, administrator, I go to all the people I talk 1.00
00:28:46.440 bad about you to, and I tell them how great you actually are. He ends up thinking more of you than
00:28:52.120 he originally did. You end up feeling good about the situation. And I realized I don't want to go
00:28:56.620 through this process anymore this is a lot there's a lot of talking but what happens there's a lot
00:29:01.800 of talking because it's all talking but now it heals both of us we actually bond over this and
00:29:07.840 the classroom watches this and the classroom thinks more of me this is how you know the
00:29:13.040 definition of repair is not to fix something so it works or fix something the way it was
00:29:17.600 the definition of repair is to fix something so it's better you know you work out you tear down
00:29:22.840 your muscles so they come back to the way they originally were your body works on when you tear
00:29:28.240 things down it makes it better god works the same way so the way to fix things is to repair it is
00:29:35.320 the step in the tension of it and go through the seven-step process by the intangible drivers and
00:29:40.660 you always end up with more and that's what I do is I help I help communities be generative
00:29:46.360 everybody gains. You and I both
00:29:48.820 gained in this. The whole class gained.
00:29:52.440 And that's
00:29:53.200 what we're going to be doing for eternity.
00:29:54.860 I know. I just like to say, if you don't like this process,
00:29:56.820 you might not want to go to heaven. You might not want to
00:29:58.780 live in the New Jerusalem, because that's 1.00
00:30:00.820 kind of what we're going to do for eternity.
00:30:02.460 But that's a full confession and full repentance.
00:30:05.180 What's interesting there is there's a little
00:30:06.920 bit of almost a notable difference.
00:30:08.860 I don't know if there is definitionally
00:30:10.600 or if it's a cultural
00:30:12.560 thing. You know how sometimes the definition of a word
00:30:14.940 can be changed dependent on a culture so like the expression of i'm sorry versus like the expression
00:30:23.100 of you know i hope that you'll forgive me there there's like a it's hard for me to articulate
00:30:29.100 like what the difference is you know i guess it's almost a way that it would be culturally used
00:30:34.780 right like going back to the joke that i made earlier if you're giving an i'm sorry and it's
00:30:39.060 Proceeded by, like, is that what you want to hear?
00:30:42.020 There.
00:30:42.400 I'm sorry.
00:30:43.420 Are we good now?
00:30:44.820 Like that kind of a deal.
00:30:45.680 Very hard to do that with, like, I hope you'll forgive me.
00:30:48.720 I was doing a deal.
00:30:50.320 It was a quarter-million-dollar deal in Southern California.
00:30:52.960 And I'm going to say it this way. 0.91
00:30:55.340 The other person was not from America. 0.98
00:30:59.080 They spoke another language.
00:31:00.560 They were another culture. 0.99
00:31:02.220 And their attitude was, I'm sorry. 1.00
00:31:04.240 Chinese. 1.00
00:31:04.640 They would every time they would do something wrong to me, and I'd point it out. 1.00
00:31:08.960 They go, so sorry. 1.00
00:31:11.140 Japanese. 1.00
00:31:11.880 So sorry. 1.00
00:31:13.780 Yes.
00:31:15.140 I can't play poker with him.
00:31:16.920 Anyways, then I did something wrong.
00:31:20.880 And he was like, and I went, so sorry.
00:31:23.100 And he just went.
00:31:25.180 And I'm like, there it is.
00:31:26.580 Interesting.
00:31:27.560 You don't like it.
00:31:28.840 Yeah.
00:31:29.100 But it's OK for you to do it to me.
00:31:30.900 So that's like, yeah, it doesn't help.
00:31:33.040 Yeah.
00:31:33.420 And people know it.
00:31:34.280 But it is trying to get out of the tension.
00:31:35.580 Well, you know, as you have a, your son is 12.
00:31:38.960 yeah he's 12 my son is 11 okay get in trouble you get a couple of like sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry
00:31:45.720 and then like stop saying that if he yeah yeah yeah okay i get it you're sorry but like are you
00:31:50.160 are you listening to what i'm saying do you understand like what this issue is no it goes
00:31:53.620 back to a lot of what you're talking about like do you understand i'd love to hear him articulate
00:31:57.240 the ins and outs of what it is what why was it wrong what did you do and why was it wrong and
00:32:03.120 why did you do it and what's the problem but like if he was like um dad please forgive me i'd be 0.78
00:32:08.560 like oh shit yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely we're good we're good man like it's all good you know
00:32:14.380 what i mean but so there's a difference there i don't know if it's culture saying i'm sorry is 0.98
00:32:17.940 almost saying okay can you can we just forget about this and go away yeah can we stop this
00:32:21.200 so i the thing is is that we're now we're getting into it okay is is the problem with forgiveness
00:32:27.500 if you really understand it is when i i had three kids that i raised and and when they said will you
00:32:34.180 forgive me, I'm like, okay, so you want me, and this is in Malin God, I actually talk about a
00:32:38.980 situation with two of my kids, is so you want me to forgive this, okay, not try to help you
00:32:46.180 call out justice so something bad can happen later this week. And they're like, no. And here's the
00:32:52.080 killer that I like to ask people. If somebody, because there's three verses in the Bible about
00:32:57.340 someone doing something wrong to you. And so someone sins against you, what are you supposed
00:33:01.980 to do was this idea that well i wonder if this applies this might not be where you're going but
00:33:06.960 like uh this is give them the other cheek so that they might do it again kind of a deal that's one
00:33:11.140 of the three verses yeah but this is when we talked yesterday about synthesis there's a there's
00:33:16.260 a question you have to take a backward step before you can go forward and the backward step is are
00:33:21.300 they a believer because what the bible actually says and what christians do are two different
00:33:29.040 things. The Bible says, if they're not a believer, you turn the other cheek and you reap spiritual
00:33:35.800 value. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let them compound that interest. Forgive them, reap spiritual value.
00:33:40.100 You're not supposed to do that to a believer. So when somebody comes, so this is me, I'm hard edge.
00:33:45.980 My kid comes up to me and says, forgive me. I'm like, so you want me to treat you like you're
00:33:50.240 not a believer? Because actually what Jesus said is we're supposed to confront. He commanded us
00:33:57.420 to confront brothers, believers, because it's this repair. 0.95
00:34:02.360 And so everything you were talking about, Ed's right that the first step
00:34:06.160 with all this spiritual oppression stuff is you've got to take authority,
00:34:11.300 but then you've got to repair everything.
00:34:14.260 We've got to do the repair in this person's brain.
00:34:17.420 You stop all the attack, but then we've got to fix this part.
00:34:21.520 And the Bible explains how to fix the brain mentally and emotionally.
00:34:26.020 And so the worst, this is a verse that makes a lot of people mad, but I think it's Matthew 9.
00:34:33.620 It says, Jesus went around and healed everybody of every illness, okay?
00:34:42.280 And then he looked on them, and they were scattered and downcast.
00:34:48.000 and those two words mean that they were a bad thought process and emotionally isolated
00:34:56.880 and so if you think about it god can instantly spiritually heal you salvation god can instantly
00:35:06.280 physically heal you but god cannot instantly mentally and emotionally heal you and he says
00:35:13.820 pray that there's laborers so what jesus was saying is i took care of everybody mentally
00:35:20.340 i'm sorry everybody physically and spiritually but now these people need mental and emotional
00:35:25.980 help and pray for laborers and it's people who work with words and it's that's what we got it
00:35:32.800 we're humans if we were robots we could just go forgive me don't do this again don't do that again
00:35:38.460 We're humans, and we don't approach people like humans.
00:35:42.140 And that's the whole key to this, is the process of helping people mentally and emotionally.
00:35:47.100 It takes a laborer.
00:35:48.920 So I want to get to Top's point about confession, you know, confession to a priest, the whole Catholic paradigm.
00:35:54.840 So, no, we do not, because they're writing it down so they can use this blackmail later.
00:35:58.360 No, in real confession, you do need to confess it.
00:36:03.480 Ruffo.
00:36:04.320 I know, yes.
00:36:05.020 It's hard out here for him.
00:36:05.760 When we confess, because Jesus said confess to each other, not because you were saying, oh, I want other people to see me and judge me.
00:36:15.420 But no, you need to be part of a community, the laborers.
00:36:17.960 So when you're in these tough situations, you confess to the people in your church, in your community that I was a part of this generational MKUltra abusive thing because I need other people to help, to help heal me. 0.96
00:36:36.600 So you need that community.
00:36:37.680 So that's part of it.
00:36:38.300 We're teaching and we are, you know, we're establishing that community.
00:36:41.660 One of the great things about this course is that we are, we're building a community of people who it will be safe for others to come in and confess to.
00:36:50.860 And we will, and we're trying to raise up a group.
00:36:53.800 We know the two of us are doing it, but we want to raise up more people who you can come and confess to and we can help with the healing.
00:37:00.820 And so that's part of it.
00:37:01.620 So you're confessing this to a generative community who can help you with the healing.
00:37:06.660 Because like John said, physical stuff can be healed.
00:37:09.960 Spirit can be healed.
00:37:10.780 You become a believer.
00:37:11.340 Your ticket is punched.
00:37:13.520 But now it's going to be a process because you're not going to snap your finger and heal all that trauma mentally.
00:37:18.180 But if you're in a community, it can take time.
00:37:21.280 But that's what's going to be needed to get into these tough situations.
00:37:24.620 Yeah.
00:37:25.060 I build generative communities.
00:37:26.880 And to me, it's a two-step process.
00:37:28.340 I transform people, get their thought process up, and then I plug them into a community so they can hold on to it.
00:37:35.660 You get transformed and you isolate, or you get transformed and you hang around the wrong people.
00:37:40.480 Humans sync their thought processes.
00:37:42.940 So you've got to get in a community.
00:37:44.720 You've got to get transformed, and then you've got to get in a community that will help you maintain it.
00:37:49.360 That's the key.
00:37:50.020 Well, that's what we're called to do, right?
00:37:51.180 It adds like an extra layer of nefariousness to the medical Western system that is basically sedating people that are in these states.
00:38:00.300 Yeah, it's just, it's keeping them in this like stasis or purgatory, like living purgatory where, yeah, that's specifically...
00:38:08.180 That seems to be the band-aid for the entire medical apparatus when it comes to mental health is sedation.
00:38:12.820 Well, that's like the biggest ailment of people.
00:38:16.440 I mean, stagnancy, just not moving at all and staying in the same spot.
00:38:21.820 And you can't.
00:38:22.840 You're always, and John talks about this all the time, you're always going forward or backwards.
00:38:26.840 You're never standing still.
00:38:28.340 You're always moving in one direction.
00:38:30.080 But what we just gave the definition of is what church is supposed to be.
00:38:34.240 It's supposed to be that generative community.
00:38:35.860 It's not what the Orthodox say.
00:38:37.340 It's not joining their club and being in their building.
00:38:40.260 No, the purpose of this church, of this generative community, is that when you come out of the hole, when you are being healed, you're around the right people.
00:38:48.160 You'd ask any drug addict who kicks their drug habit or their alcoholism or whatever.
00:38:53.700 If they start hanging around the people who they were hanging around with before, they're going to go right back into it because, as John said, you're going to sync up to your community.
00:39:00.940 But if you come out of it and then you get to a better community, you're not going to fall back into those old habits because you're going to sync in to this generative community.
00:39:09.620 That's what church is supposed to be.
00:39:11.600 So the key is, is to build off of that, is that we all gather together and we all act in our uniqueness.
00:39:18.880 That medication just blocks your ability to get into your uniqueness.
00:39:21.700 If us four meet and we act in our uniqueness towards each other, we're all going to walk out of here with more spiritual value.
00:39:29.320 So God created church and marriage as two situations where if two people or a bunch of people interact in their uniqueness,
00:39:36.900 they generate more spiritual value to bring about God's will.
00:39:40.240 Now, what's one of the ways to stop that is to kill the uniqueness.
00:39:44.320 So if you're in a situation where it's all legalistic,
00:39:47.080 you need to value the same things that you need to value the same things
00:39:50.000 that I need to value, there's no way to be profitable.
00:39:52.900 If we value everything the same, then any exchange we have isn't profitable.
00:39:57.640 You know what's fascinating about that is I think that is something
00:40:01.900 that plagues a lot of the modern-day church
00:40:03.940 where um you don't really walk into a church and see a bunch of people operating in their uniqueness
00:40:10.200 in fact you see a bunch of people curbing aspects of themselves to not upset the flow of things or
00:40:16.720 not to stand out or or whatever uh and i feel that compulsion when i go into the building to
00:40:24.340 like turn it down a little bit you know what i mean they they like invited you and they were
00:40:28.220 like would you like to read a thing here and and i was like ah dude when you told me what he was
00:40:33.360 saying i was like i was watching how you were reacting but i couldn't see what was being said
00:40:37.360 and i was like that's not how that's not how you you're gonna approach somebody like david who's
00:40:42.360 dressed like this yeah as i dress like this at church at church i mean i flick the buttons
00:40:46.440 but like read the room other than that it's the exact same thing well you know buttons either
00:40:51.340 sometimes depends on if it's hot out so they said something to the effect of like uh would you like
00:40:56.360 to contribute like okay yeah how so i go to this place it brings me value god speaks through the
00:41:02.600 sermons to me regularly this is an important place i understand that so if you're gonna petition me
00:41:07.620 to get involved to some degree whatever that looks like i told him i offered him like manual labor
00:41:12.500 like you guys always have like boxes and stuff moving around like i don't know what i'm gonna
00:41:15.760 do for you know what i mean and but like yeah i'd be happy to like clean lift things move things
00:41:20.920 around whatever like you know i could do that labor and uh and i could tell that wasn't exactly
00:41:27.080 what he was looking for which is to say that he knows who i am and he knows what i do so i go well
00:41:33.060 you know he's like well what do you do i was like i used to do stuff that was more manual labor now
00:41:37.240 i talk for a living and he goes well you could narrate some things for us and i go well what
00:41:44.060 does that look like and he goes you get on stage we put the teleprompter and then he does this he
00:41:48.500 goes you do the voice he said the voice i don't do a voice right i am exactly who i am on this
00:41:56.320 camera off this camera i'm not going to go to a place that facilitates god speaking to me and do
00:42:02.280 anything that's fake but that's it's a problem because it's like uh they don't just have to
00:42:07.480 offer that there there's a lot more that i mean just think a little bit but it's not safe to think
00:42:13.160 because i also understand you can get into some weird stuff when you start to expand this box
00:42:17.940 well i don't know there's a lot of different types of people and they're out there and they're moving
00:42:22.300 around and you have three things to offer them yeah and that's not satisfactory here and now
00:42:27.060 this system is failing you could walk around with so what do we do donation thing you could play an
00:42:31.720 instrument or do some music or you can speak and like you know i'm sure honestly it wasn't his
00:42:37.660 intention i don't but but my thing was like yeah that's like the this is what we have to offer
00:42:42.860 within the system and we value you being here here's what i have to all like you come to my
00:42:48.700 house i'm like i only have hot dogs you'd love that i'd be like you wouldn't be able to get rid
00:42:52.560 of me but if this is all i have this is what i have yeah and it's kind of like i i'm sympathetic
00:42:56.820 but it's like something's got to something's going to change here but that's totally denying
00:43:01.860 your uniqueness that is totally saying i if i'm telling you what to contribute yeah that's totally
00:43:09.420 denying i i have a whole you know a square peg you know square you got to fit in this hole versus
00:43:16.220 Just, you know, be yourself.
00:43:18.000 It'll happen.
00:43:18.680 And that is a problem with what we call church, which is a government.
00:43:22.260 And that's why I talked about this yesterday.
00:43:23.580 The purpose of government is to tamp down your uniqueness so you can just fit in with everything.
00:43:28.460 Because, again, when you are unique, you are dangerous.
00:43:30.240 And we don't like dangerous people.
00:43:32.140 Well, that's the thing. 1.00
00:43:33.820 He's got a dangerous retard in front of him. 1.00
00:43:35.660 And I don't know what I could do. 1.00
00:43:37.300 But let me tell you, I also could not get in front of those people and talk in the way that I talk on this show or anywhere else and have it resonate with them.
00:43:44.500 they might have me for a little bit
00:43:46.600 but then my uniqueness is going to slip through
00:43:49.020 and they're going to clutch pearls
00:43:50.600 and they're going to get uncomfortable
00:43:52.140 and they're not going to be able to listen to anything that I'm saying beyond that point
00:43:54.960 how often had you gone
00:43:56.660 before they said that to you
00:43:58.680 uh
00:43:59.500 last Bohemian Grove
00:44:02.860 basically right when everything fell apart
00:44:04.400 so it's been a year
00:44:06.420 it was the last one
00:44:07.540 I think it was June
00:44:09.360 a year and a couple months
00:44:10.640 the reason they said that to him
00:44:13.280 because he stopped going for a while and then he came back and they were like we kind of want you
00:44:17.840 to come back which i think you should because like yeah there's like a weird there's a weird
00:44:23.960 uh full there's a weird falling apart and putting together that church does even if it's flawed
00:44:29.900 every week yeah so they're like you should come back like how do we get them to come back i don't
00:44:33.760 know this is what we have to offer and i'm like that's not so they're trying to offer me like
00:44:36.820 something that is going to anchor me to the establishment a little bit more so i'm less
00:44:40.800 likely to to go but see my thing is like i'm never gonna deny that sermon after sermon it's uncanny
00:44:48.720 how god is speaking directly to me about something that's so unique it's not a general message that
00:44:54.640 applies to everybody it's like i'll get out of there and i'll say to my wife like that was weird
00:44:59.320 right she'll go that was really weird and it happens it's happened so many times that i go
00:45:04.060 I'm willing to endure the aspects of this that I don't enjoy, which is taking what I've estimated
00:45:11.800 to be the most badass thing in reality, which is God and everything about the Bible and turning it
00:45:19.240 into something that is palatable for children. And I can't, it doesn't sit well, it makes me
00:45:27.520 very uncomfortable, pretty upset. Then all of a sudden, after I get past all that, I'm like,
00:45:31.860 this guy's talking directly to me. So the thing is, is that when you say someone's your pastor,
00:45:37.660 now we're getting back to what you're saying, like covenanting in a sense. When you say someone's
00:45:42.140 your pastor, then God speaks through that person to you. And so I would say my diagnosis,
00:45:51.960 I've helped enough churches, been around enough churches, this guy's anointed, this guy's doing
00:45:56.700 his role. He's letting God flow through him, and he's doing that. His role probably isn't
00:46:03.800 how to set up an organization. Paul's letters were really about how to get the church.
00:46:10.800 That's what his letters were about, is Jesus is trying to help everybody get their thought
00:46:15.920 process up and get saved. Paul is there trying to go, listen, here's how you run a church. Here's
00:46:20.500 where the church is. It's not a business. It's a ministry. I always talk to people,
00:46:24.940 is, is your church focused? If it's a business, it provides a ministry to make money. If it's a
00:46:31.300 ministry, it basically uses money to deliver a benefit. So it sounds to me like this guy is
00:46:38.180 anointed, he's doing his job. Doesn't sound like he knows how to set up an organization around him 1.00
00:46:43.740 to reach people, because looking for how they can get something out of you is not
00:46:49.840 what they should be doing. A lot of the problem with how to set up the organization is you take
00:46:54.200 a thing you've got a framework that already is pre-existing that is part of this system and and
00:46:59.020 how to make it profitable and you take that framework and it's it's like uh how they make
00:47:03.600 these houses right where they're like uh poor constructions not a lot of um you know good
00:47:09.960 materials being used but they can get them up quick and they can mass produce them so when it
00:47:15.240 comes to like how are we going to do this here it is here's the framework they slap it down they
00:47:19.500 slap some you know whatever on it and then they get inside and within that within the sermon you
00:47:24.020 know there are these things but um and then of course there was a switch from one pastor to
00:47:28.280 another where one pastor was like overwhelmingly struck me as the real deal like a dude who really
00:47:34.360 loved the i'm not saying the new one doesn't love the lord but like this guy did not he was just
00:47:39.120 talking he wasn't thinking about a cadence or a voice or anything and this dude would be weeping
00:47:45.400 during his sermons and it was so obvious that he was a real genuine guy that i loved him we've had
00:47:52.880 him on the show before next guy was a youth pastor spent all this time talking to the kids
00:47:57.400 comes out to talk to a congregation of you know adults in there and we're talking like in some
00:48:02.320 cases and a lot of cases 80 year olds because this is a retiree area and uh and he's still
00:48:07.740 talking like he's talking to kids and i'm going man i can't i can't that framework you're talking
00:48:13.740 about that's the problem of that tamps down uniqueness here's how we do church if you look
00:48:18.400 through the Bible, God never has taught anyone to stop being who you are. He works through them.
00:48:24.220 All the disciples were different. You read the different books and the way they talked to each
00:48:27.940 the gospel of John and the John's letters. John is a completely different personality than Peter.
00:48:33.980 Peter was always ready, fire, aim. You know, that was who he was. And God loved that about him.
00:48:40.360 Here's how Peter's going to be. Paul was different. Paul was an intellectual. Paul was a systems
00:48:44.200 thinker. That's why John said Paul was teaching people this organization. Peter wasn't going to
00:48:48.440 do that. John was the apostle of love. John is talking about all these different things that
00:48:52.380 have to do with love. The gospel of John is very mystical. And it reads different than Matthew.
00:48:58.520 Matthew was a tax collector. He was very legalistic. He was a Levite. So he talks about
00:49:04.140 Jesus in a certain way. He always said Jesus did this to fulfill the scripture. Luke was a physician.
00:49:09.940 He spoke differently.
00:49:11.000 And Luke was basically, he wrote his book as one of Paul's trial documents.
00:49:15.880 It was written to the Greek mind because Paul was going to go on trial, and the Romans adopted the Greek system of trials.
00:49:24.440 Mark was written to the Roman audience.
00:49:26.240 It's believed that Mark was basically getting his stuff from Peter.
00:49:30.360 The gospel of Mark is very action-oriented.
00:49:32.360 It speaks to the Roman mind. 0.98
00:49:34.100 So my point is that God doesn't want us to all be the same. 0.99
00:49:38.060 And we're going to do this forever.
00:49:41.020 I mean, here's a little hint that when we talk about the generative community,
00:49:45.160 what we're doing is we are talking about heaven because that's what heaven is going to be.
00:49:49.620 The new Jerusalem is going to be us in our uniqueness, growing, repairing, getting better for eternity.
00:49:57.580 That is what it's going to be like.
00:49:58.960 So when we say we're building a generative community, we are talking about the kingdom of heaven on earth,
00:50:04.680 which is what Jesus said.
00:50:06.020 He said, you talked about two kingdoms.
00:50:07.660 There's a kingdom of heaven and there's a kingdom of God.
00:50:09.320 And people get them confused.
00:50:10.160 They're not the same thing.
00:50:11.160 Let me tell you, when people hear that, though, if you've had the experience that I just described here and you didn't have this other thing, right?
00:50:19.720 Like having the relationships that I've built with guys like you and Top and Matt and this place and the show, I'm not going to throw anything out.
00:50:28.780 Just because I had this experience at church, I'm not throwing anything out.
00:50:32.040 But if you're somebody who didn't have all these other anchor points where God is clearly working in your life and all of this meaning is being injected into it and you walk into that building and you describe your experience as someone and it sounds anything like what I just said, then there's a high likelihood when you hear heaven is going to be – and you look at that.
00:50:48.520 It's like, is heaven anything like that?
00:50:50.080 Is heaven anything like that?
00:50:51.380 Is New Jerusalem anything like that?
00:50:53.060 Yeah, if heaven is an eternal church service, I'm like, what's hell going to be like?
00:50:58.040 Yeah, dude.
00:50:59.140 But it's not.
00:50:59.940 And that's the great news.
00:51:00.840 heaven is not going to be an eternal church service
00:51:03.740 the way we do church here
00:51:04.980 no, heaven is going to be the way church is supposed to be
00:51:07.240 it's going to be getting to know
00:51:09.500 being who you are
00:51:10.880 and your uniqueness and sharing that with others
00:51:12.760 and growth and repair and growing and joy
00:51:15.060 you're going to be
00:51:15.880 your first day in the new Jerusalem 0.74
00:51:18.180 is going to be
00:51:19.420 the saddest quote unquote day
00:51:22.220 every day after is going to be more and more joy
00:51:24.720 because you're going to be more and more who you are
00:51:27.160 you're going to get more and more of who other people are
00:51:29.960 The first day is the saddest day.
00:51:31.660 Every day, and I put that in quotes because you're not going to be sad.
00:51:34.220 You're going to be full of joy.
00:51:35.200 But every day after that is going to be more and more joy.
00:51:37.920 You're going to keep growing.
00:51:39.060 You're going to keep learning, and you're going to keep repairing.
00:51:42.540 We're going to repair.
00:51:44.060 We're not going to sin in the new Jerusalem, but we are going to make mistakes, and we're going to grow.
00:51:49.780 So I just want to finish this thing with Raven.
00:51:53.840 What I would teach people to do in that situation is I would have taught that guy to say to you,
00:51:59.400 why don't you find out what God wants you to do here?
00:52:02.120 I'm sure you're going to say something.
00:52:03.180 Why don't you go from there?
00:52:05.300 I love that guy.
00:52:06.780 Oh, do the voice.
00:52:07.760 Why don't you get the point?
00:52:09.800 I love that guy.
00:52:10.840 It's just the approach was wrong.
00:52:13.140 And he doesn't know.
00:52:14.080 He doesn't know.
00:52:14.940 He's just going through that system.
00:52:16.120 Like this is what he does.
00:52:16.960 That's not how you approach that guy.
00:52:18.860 for me that was fairly evident but you know whatever maybe one day i'll have a talk with
00:52:24.160 them but i wanted to ask are you so with with the course you're building this community or do you
00:52:30.460 guys have like uh chats or like tell us something for them to like be talking with them because i
00:52:35.360 know well i mean there's a lot of people coming but the guys in our chat they're talking oh i
00:52:39.980 don't know what they're saying to be honest probably a lot of stuff about us but they're
00:52:44.260 always talking and they're always doing the community thing so is that something you guys
00:52:47.420 they're focused on. Yeah, message board, because I'm such a Luddite, it took me a while to get it
00:52:51.580 up. But just over the last couple of weeks, our message board is up. And I've sent a communication
00:52:57.240 out to everyone who's part of the course. Here's where you're going to talk to each other. Tell
00:53:00.480 each other your stories. Please do that. Tell each other your victories, your struggles. You know,
00:53:05.000 in general, you know, go in there and we help answer questions. But yes, that's a huge part
00:53:09.640 of it, which is why once we're done with this first cycle of 12 months, I'm going to completely
00:53:13.640 different software because the software i'm using sucks right now and um but it's working for the
00:53:17.900 moment but i i want to have a much more robust platform i want to make it easier for folks to
00:53:23.980 come aboard and and interact but to answer your question yeah we have our our forums for both
00:53:28.780 tiers and yeah you can come aboard and tell your story i think the third um part of this is where
00:53:36.700 this is all going to start to explode because one of the things in a hard case is arguing
00:53:41.420 is i i love to help people argue and the thing that i do is again i do a synthesis where i don't
00:53:50.600 jump in when people have an argument it's like they make it the system and they want you to jump
00:53:55.260 into it and analyze it and then they got you and what i teach executives i coach executives and the
00:54:01.040 moment when these people become executives and get promoted is when they naturally someone comes to
00:54:05.740 with an argument and they go, that's a part of a bigger system. I'm going to stay out here and
00:54:11.520 talk about it and ask questions this way. So I teach how to argue in three questions. So you're
00:54:17.040 never yelling or screaming. And then I teach how to argue with humans because one of the things is
00:54:22.420 people want to argue logically. And what I have is I have an unconscious confrontation. I can ask
00:54:29.400 people a question that when they answer it, I leave them alone. And the next morning they wake
00:54:36.160 up with a headache and then they go, what, what just happened here? And then their behavior
00:54:40.820 changes. You're not going to change anybody's behavior in the moment, but if you know how to
00:54:44.860 argue with a human, you can change their behavior. And that's the thing is, is we got, you know,
00:54:51.320 Satan can't touch me. You know, first John, it said he can't touch me, but he can get in somebody
00:54:56.380 else who can attack me. Likewise, God can't come at me, but I can let God work through me to come
00:55:03.560 at you. And then, so now you're dealing with people. Do you know if you're arguing with a
00:55:07.940 person or an entity? Because they argue very differently. And then do you know how to help
00:55:14.600 a person separate that out when you argue with them? And that's the thing is I watch people
00:55:19.060 argue all the time and they're arguing with robots. They're not arguing with humans. And
00:55:24.220 And you're not when you argue.
00:55:26.180 Another thing is when you argue online, if I was arguing with you on Raven online, I wouldn't care really about you.
00:55:32.100 My audience is who I'm really talking to.
00:55:34.140 Who sees this interaction.
00:55:36.060 I'll talk to you all day long because I'm going to show everybody else your thought process, and that's going to work on you.
00:55:42.240 That's what I tell people when they're using Twitter.
00:55:45.060 I'm like, you're using it wrong.
00:55:46.660 I'll use it in a kind of exploitative way, and it seems combative, but I'm like, I'm never talking to you.
00:55:52.320 I'm talking behind you.
00:55:53.640 And everybody else is seeing what's going on here.
00:55:55.860 And sometimes I'll have to embarrass you.
00:55:57.460 That's on you.
00:55:58.020 You can come back to the table later.
00:55:59.160 We'll talk about it.
00:55:59.840 But it's for the guys that are watching, not you ever.
00:56:04.060 That's it.
00:56:04.960 It's a form of trolling where sometimes I'll have to make you perform into my play.
00:56:10.840 You're going to do what I want you to do.
00:56:12.480 But I'm not entertained by it.
00:56:14.360 I'm kind of bored by it.
00:56:15.420 It's for these guys.
00:56:17.220 Yeah, I like to – when you constantly argue, what happens a lot of times is you ask them a question and they just don't answer.
00:56:23.640 And it's like everybody's watching that going, how did you shut that guy up?
00:56:28.220 And that guy's wanting to answer, but internally he's feeling his unconscious just crush him.
00:56:33.880 And so it's like that's how you deal with people is you're really using their unconscious against them.
00:56:40.160 That asking questions is really good, too, rather than saying like pointed things because somebody says a thing and you want to fire back
00:56:45.380 or somebody says a thing and you want to get on the back foot and defend yourself and explain your position.
00:56:51.780 uh whereas responding oftentimes with a question is like it can be deaf remember one time I had this
00:57:00.200 uh friend of a friend and you know you want to talk about whether or not you're talking to the
00:57:06.020 person or a demon and this this person just kept insulting me insulting me and I'm the type of
00:57:11.420 person that like if you crack jokes on me it's like it's no big deal you know we can do that
00:57:15.040 for a while but it was like very pointed very like oh you mean it like just like saying the
00:57:20.520 same thing over and over again boom boom boom you're this you're this you're this first few
00:57:25.460 times i laugh it off it gets to the point where the whole room starts getting uncomfortable i
00:57:29.500 didn't do this purposely everybody gets uncomfortable and i'm like i got to address
00:57:34.640 this and all i do is go hey did i do something to you and then there's a there's a woman starts
00:57:42.260 sobbing starts crying but she had a couple of drinks in her and she was in this place
00:57:48.120 like something else came out entirely it had nothing to do with me but i could i had all
00:57:53.400 these things i wanted to say oh i'm this then you're that or like i'm not this instead i was
00:57:58.440 just said hey dude what did i do to you did i do something to you and like boom this thing just
00:58:02.880 fell down uh like a like a controlled demolition and i didn't do anything i just asked a question
00:58:08.600 and i think like once you know if you're dealing with somebody that is like of a certain spirit
00:58:12.360 they want to stab stab stab but as soon as you ask them something and they have to
00:58:16.780 rationalize what they're doing and articulate what they're doing that's an impossible task if
00:58:22.220 you're coming from a place that's unreasonable and the impossibility of that task i think just
00:58:25.880 causes them to crumble well you dissolve that issue that's amazing because that's what i when
00:58:31.320 i'm doing all you know i'm a consultant with all these problem solving when you see a problem
00:58:35.620 that's an effect and everybody spends their time looking for the issue there which is analysis i
00:58:42.200 take a step back and the problem's always over here the cause is over here and the cause is
00:58:47.140 intangible so you didn't get sucked in to her yelling this and this you got you know what did
00:58:52.840 i did i do something to you with the question which is great i like to say like if they're 1.00
00:58:56.780 like you're an idiot like what do you mean by idiot it's like 90 of the arguments end just 0.98
00:59:04.220 asking that question because the problem is is if they give a definition if they were to say 1.00
00:59:09.080 well, an idiot's someone who blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1.00
00:59:11.100 Their unconscious goes, hey, John, 1.00
00:59:13.480 like if I said you're an idiot and you said, 1.00
00:59:15.040 what's your definition of an idiot? 1.00
00:59:15.980 When I give the answer, my unconscious goes, 1.00
00:59:18.200 well, wait a minute, you acted like this
00:59:20.360 because my unconscious has a record of everything I've ever done
00:59:22.600 and I'm going to get every one of those right now.
00:59:24.780 Oh, yeah.
00:59:25.220 So I can't answer.
00:59:26.620 Yeah.
00:59:26.960 Yeah, yeah, I run into that sometimes 0.97
00:59:29.140 because I do a fair bit of shit talking to people 0.94
00:59:31.040 and I'll say something out loud and immediately in my mind 1.00
00:59:33.540 and go, you dumb. 1.00
00:59:34.000 You did that too, yeah. 1.00
00:59:35.020 You dumb did you do that. 1.00
00:59:35.820 That's the thing on Twitter, these people who yell at you, 1.00
00:59:38.280 You guys are public figures.
00:59:39.500 Yeah.
00:59:39.760 So when people yell at you, if you realize, and you just proved this, they didn't have
00:59:44.220 a problem with you.
00:59:45.360 Oh, they're usually pretty nice if you give them, like...
00:59:47.380 A lot of the times they'll yell, and I'm like, that's not me.
00:59:50.160 Yeah.
00:59:50.300 You're yelling about something else.
00:59:51.660 Right.
00:59:51.920 It's like, that's fine.
00:59:52.660 I'll do a real, like...
00:59:54.100 And sometimes it backfires.
00:59:56.060 But usually I'll say, no, you.
00:59:58.460 And that's a lot of fun, which is just, like, very childish.
01:00:00.880 They'll go, you're this.
01:00:01.440 I'll go, no, comma, you.
01:00:03.140 And then they go, all right, there's nothing to do here anymore.
01:00:04.960 uh but sometimes i'll do so it depends on what kind of mood i'm in um i'll go i'm sorry i love
01:00:11.340 you and they'll go like dude i'm just playing i love the show big fan been watching it for a long
01:00:16.500 time and i'm like that person like that's so weird dude because they want to come at you in this
01:00:20.680 stabbing wafers and if you say like my my personality on twitter is very chaotic so like
01:00:27.060 super high goofies and then super cutting stuff depending on how you come at me so i've created
01:00:32.420 enough range for myself to do anything and it's it's within my character set so if i just go like
01:00:38.660 hey dude sorry i love you like that's not nobody even bats an eye at that they go like yeah that's
01:00:43.180 just raven but like that ability to pull that one out and put that on the table people just go oh
01:00:48.100 yeah man sorry big fan of the show and i'm like that's fucking weird they have to because if they
01:00:53.120 trash you for being positive this is how i teach people deal with a narcissist you you be nice to 0.91
01:00:58.760 a narcissist and they have to be nice back. If they're not, then their unconscious just sinks 0.95
01:01:03.380 them because their unconscious goes, I ramp you up to be mad at people because they yell back at
01:01:08.680 you. Assuming if they were nice to you, you'd be nice to them. Uh-oh, this person was nice
01:01:12.720 and you weren't nice. They lose all their energy. So that's beautiful that I love you. I teach
01:01:17.420 people to say, I'm sorry you feel that way. They can't respond to that because it's unconscious.
01:01:23.540 you feel sorry they feel that way
01:01:26.720 they can't say something
01:01:28.520 about they don't feel that way
01:01:29.740 they'll say you don't need to feel sorry
01:01:31.880 I didn't ask you to feel sorry I'm sorry you feel that way
01:01:34.280 and you just keep repeating and they start
01:01:35.940 sometimes I'll let them too I'll give them a little
01:01:38.520 like here have a bite you know they'll come at me
01:01:40.520 and they'll say something that's like really cutting
01:01:42.160 they'll make fun of me and I'll go
01:01:43.320 and they'll go like ah I'm just playing
01:01:46.460 I love you but like if you just don't
01:01:48.600 respond in that way but
01:01:50.320 it just depends man there's a time and a place because
01:01:52.260 sometimes you are you're talking to the people behind them and it's like all right i'm gonna
01:01:55.100 drag you out into the public court now and i'm gonna yeah pull your pants down and now people
01:02:00.460 are gonna see and i'm sorry your pants are down but so we're uh again we're kind of like crunch
01:02:04.740 for time as we start late but uh so yeah i want to get into like the other the let's finish up
01:02:09.400 the third quarter and then uh let's yeah let's let's okay so i think the other thing we want
01:02:13.420 to talk about the third quarter we talked about generational curses and so i think we've covered
01:02:16.220 that fairly well you if you want to know more go to the course um but let's let's talk a little
01:02:21.060 about about addictions because that's another tough circumstance enough tough a really next
01:02:26.220 level um of spiritual warfare beyond you know defense and basic offense so um so i want john
01:02:32.620 to talk about this because he deals with with addictions quite a bit yeah i'll just kind of
01:02:36.060 summarize it because i thought yesterday raven asked a lot of great questions about this but
01:02:40.360 basically your brain is made to be addicted to something we call it habits you do something
01:02:45.880 enough times your brain goes i got this and all of a sudden you're doing without knowing it and so
01:02:50.760 But what we do is we consciously tell our unconscious that we want certain things that we probably shouldn't want.
01:02:57.420 And the way to deal with that is to recognize it, is to rehearse what you would do differently, and you're going to feel grieving.
01:03:04.840 And then you always replace an addiction with another addiction.
01:03:08.160 And that's really all there is to it.
01:03:09.860 And then you state your unconscious brain, I don't want to do this anymore, and then you go through that.
01:03:15.160 That's where these people have this miraculous, I broke this addiction one night.
01:03:19.100 And if you listen to their story, it's for 10 years.
01:03:22.120 I wish I hadn't done this thing.
01:03:24.320 I wish I didn't do this anymore.
01:03:26.260 And I'm just going to be honest.
01:03:28.060 One night I just yelled, I don't want to do this anymore.
01:03:31.300 And I haven't done it since.
01:03:32.580 You could have said that nine years earlier.
01:03:35.400 But everything you were doing every night was rehearsing what you do instead, which is great. 0.99
01:03:40.440 Because if you say, I don't want to do this anymore, and then you go do it, your unconscious goes, eh, full of crap. 0.99
01:03:45.620 I don't know if I'm going to believe you. 0.99
01:03:46.760 But it's really straightforward.
01:03:48.660 We help people break addictions all the time.
01:03:51.180 It's like my dad pets the dog, jumps on him, and he says, get down, and then he pets him.
01:03:56.300 And he pets the dog.
01:03:56.920 It's like you're telling him to jump on you.
01:03:59.280 Perfect analogy.
01:04:00.640 Now he thinks get down is a good thing.
01:04:02.540 Yes.
01:04:02.960 So hell yeah, we're getting down.
01:04:05.540 So we've talked about generative community a bit, and we can cover that some more.
01:04:09.220 But I think one thing I do want to cover again with the tough situations is when Jesus was –
01:04:16.660 Jesus would normally just cast demons out by saying, come out of them.
01:04:19.820 But there was a time when Jesus said to a demon, come out of you.
01:04:23.740 Come out of him.
01:04:24.680 I think it was with Legion.
01:04:26.800 And nothing happened.
01:04:28.400 And then Jesus said, what's your name?
01:04:30.760 Yeah.
01:04:31.280 So that's another thing that we teach you.
01:04:33.200 You have the authority to ask for this thing's name.
01:04:35.400 And having something's name, someone's name, that's a covenant relationship there.
01:04:41.020 Jehovah himself, he did not give his name, his covenant name, Yahweh, Y-H-W-H, which is transliterate to Jehovah, Yehovah, the German transliteration.
01:04:49.760 He did not give that name to the Exodus.
01:04:52.480 Abraham didn't have the covenant name.
01:04:54.640 Noah didn't have the covenant name.
01:04:56.240 He gave it for the first time because that was a covenant.
01:04:58.580 There are – notice that in the Bible, we don't have the names of only two angels.
01:05:04.400 There are millions, billions of them possibly.
01:05:05.900 We know Michael and Gabriel.
01:05:07.080 Why doesn't God give us those names?
01:05:08.800 Covenants.
01:05:09.300 I think we've already mentioned this before.
01:05:10.340 And if we did know that, we would abuse that.
01:05:11.460 We would worship them.
01:05:12.580 Right.
01:05:13.000 So that's a tough situation.
01:05:14.440 And we will talk more about that in the course.
01:05:17.080 But there was also a situation where the disciples went out and they tried to cast out a demon.
01:05:22.020 And it didn't work.
01:05:23.020 It was a stronger one because demons have a hierarchy.
01:05:24.780 I talked about this in the class last month.
01:05:27.580 They're not all the same.
01:05:28.560 There's demons.
01:05:29.440 There's really strong demonic entities. 1.00
01:05:31.300 Then there are the Elohim, which are a step above. 0.84
01:05:33.940 Demons are the spirit of the dead Nephilim. 0.96
01:05:35.320 Then you have fallen angels, Elohim, who have different levels of principalities, powers,
01:05:42.180 the spiritual weakness in high places that Paul talks about.
01:05:45.900 There are different levels of them.
01:05:47.100 And if you're dealing with a tough one, just saying, Jesus is not going to work.
01:05:50.480 Yeah, especially not in the trembly voice.
01:05:52.520 Yeah, Jesus, come on, Lord.
01:05:54.340 Help me, Jesus.
01:05:55.200 You've got to do the voice.
01:05:56.160 You've got to do the voice.
01:05:57.080 But when the disciples came to Jesus and said, why weren't we able to cast this out?
01:06:00.680 So Jesus said this type—first of all, you didn't have a faith.
01:06:03.880 Yeah.
01:06:04.700 Secondly, you didn't do the trembly voice.
01:06:06.980 You didn't do the trembly voice.
01:06:07.800 You didn't do the trembly voice, yeah.
01:06:08.780 You didn't sweat enough.
01:06:09.880 You weren't mopping your brow.
01:06:11.500 But he also says this type only comes out through prayer and fasting.
01:06:15.360 Yeah.
01:06:15.820 Why?
01:06:16.100 Is it just because if you're hungry, you can cast out a demon?
01:06:18.040 No, because when you're fasting, it's not just withholding food.
01:06:20.960 You're fasting, and you're focusing on God.
01:06:24.260 You're focusing on Jehovah. 0.82
01:06:25.860 You're replacing—you're giving a sacrifice.
01:06:28.120 So you are in a better spiritual place to hear from God, because the more you focus on God, the better you can hear from him.
01:06:35.580 So then God can speak to you, and you can hear him, and he can tell you how to deal with this entity.
01:06:39.860 So that's another tough situation.
01:06:41.580 This is something I was just talking about, this idea of fasting, too, is you are abstaining from the desires of the flesh.
01:06:47.600 So you're sacrificing that, the desires of the flesh, to get closer to God.
01:06:51.840 Like, that's a faith-driven thing that God sees.
01:06:54.620 The voices that you hear, there are four voices that are always speaking to you.
01:06:57.360 the holy spirit the world the flesh the devil you got to quiet those voices because the quietest one
01:07:02.600 is the voice of the holy spirit yeah so you got to tamp down the world the flesh and the devil and
01:07:07.060 the flesh is strong yeah you're tamping the flesh down and that particular demonic entity needed the
01:07:11.640 flesh to be tamped down so you could hear from from god on that and that's why we're going to
01:07:15.640 talk about nutrition because it seems you know pedestrian but how you feel physically is going
01:07:21.900 to affect how you are physically if you put if you're eating a bunch of junk and crap well that's
01:07:26.240 going to affect not only your health you made a covenant you're saying i'm only going to eat this
01:07:29.660 way i'm just going to eat pizza and ho-hos yeah well guess what now you're going to get sick yeah 0.95
01:07:34.520 you know um really quickly this idea of knowing the name of this spirit in order to cast it out 0.95
01:07:41.380 and having power over it it's very similar in your own let's say sin or or trauma or any of
01:07:49.080 these things like if you just have this this sense of like general oppression like i'm being oppressed
01:07:53.860 i have this spirit or whatever it's like well okay if you're being oppressed there's a set of legal
01:07:57.700 accesses that have been granted the spiritual realm to you you've done a thing there's this is
01:08:01.300 this is just right so it's not exactly knowing the name of the entity but it's like in what way did
01:08:09.060 you sin right like if you don't if you can't address that if you can't say this is a sin of of
01:08:14.900 like let's say uh the idea of like the seven deadly sins like this falls within the category
01:08:19.060 I've been lustful, or I've been gluttonous, or I've been, you know, slothful.
01:08:24.360 I don't know if that's a word, but you get what I'm saying, right?
01:08:26.380 That's a word.
01:08:26.920 It is a word.
01:08:27.720 You got it.
01:08:28.140 You did good.
01:08:28.520 Hell yeah, there we go.
01:08:30.100 So without the ability to identify that, you know, without knowing the name or the identity of this sin that you've—
01:08:37.160 or this spirit that you're engaging with when you're sinning and giving it access to you,
01:08:41.100 then you have little authority to cast it out.
01:08:43.160 So here's one thing.
01:08:44.200 It might not be God giving you the actual name of this thing, but because you could be naming the type of spirit.
01:08:50.000 An example, I was actually, I forgot, meant to talk to you about this this morning because I was telling you that God was talking to me this morning about something.
01:08:55.220 And that was, I was reading over Luke chapter 16, where Jesus is giving the parable about the unrighteous servant who's basically about to get fired.
01:09:06.860 The master of the house, a representative of God, comes to him and says, hey, you've been messing up my money.
01:09:11.520 You've been a poor steward of my money.
01:09:12.740 You're about to get fired.
01:09:13.840 What does this guy do?
01:09:14.640 He goes out and he basically goes to the people who owes the master money.
01:09:19.720 And he says, hey, I'll settle this for you for 50 cents on the dollar.
01:09:23.100 And why was he doing that?
01:09:24.440 He was doing it so that he knew he was going to get fired.
01:09:26.400 He says, when I get fired, I can go to these guys and say, hey, I did you a solid with the master.
01:09:29.680 Can you help me out?
01:09:30.660 Right.
01:09:31.040 And Jesus commended him, not for being dishonest, but he said, you were shrewd.
01:09:35.600 You knew you were about to get fired.
01:09:37.960 You did something to help yourself.
01:09:40.980 And then Jesus says something that freaks people.
01:09:43.320 I haven't understood, and I'm still working through it.
01:09:46.060 Luke chapter 16, 9, he says that basically you should use unrighteous mammon to make friends
01:09:57.000 so that when mammon wealth runs out, they'll be able to give you reward in eternity.
01:10:05.300 What is Jesus saying?
01:10:06.440 How is he doing this?
01:10:07.280 But the reason I'm bringing that up, we don't have time to go into all of it
01:10:09.680 because I know we need to wrap up, but Jesus called it mammon.
01:10:13.320 Mammon is Aramaic for a spirit of filthy lucre, of wealth, of unrighteous wealth.
01:10:20.960 And Jesus said to use that.
01:10:22.580 Shout out to Dom Lucre.
01:10:24.920 He said to use it.
01:10:26.000 He named Mammon.
01:10:27.200 Now, is Mammon the actual name of this spirit, or is that just a spirit of unrighteous wealth?
01:10:32.720 Basically, the money that we have is unrighteous because the riches, the real true riches are spiritual.
01:10:36.760 So Jesus is saying you can use this.
01:10:38.180 So you can command.
01:10:39.140 We talked about wealth and riches and things like that, money problems.
01:10:43.320 mammon's a spirit you have control over that based on the blood of jesus that's an interesting
01:10:49.760 concept well i think the delineation of using a thing versus having it right he says no man can
01:10:55.940 serve you can serve you can't serve two masters you cannot serve jehovah and mammon right you
01:11:00.040 can't serve mammon but he didn't say so he said you can use it in order to build for yourself
01:11:06.800 wealth right so what do we do so let's say so we get money we use it righteously to help others
01:11:11.220 who are going to eternity, and we're getting reward.
01:11:13.740 Right, because the misconception is money is the root of all evil,
01:11:16.380 but it's the love of money.
01:11:17.700 It's the root of all kinds of evil, not every evil.
01:11:20.020 There's a lot of people like that out there, like our guy Austin.
01:11:23.640 He's like, yeah, I haven't monetized my stuff because for whatever reason.
01:11:27.320 I'm like, well, and you're not going to grow.
01:11:30.600 Right.
01:11:31.080 So therefore—
01:11:31.920 And if you believe that you're speaking the truth,
01:11:33.680 then people aren't going to hear the truth.
01:11:35.080 The same with me.
01:11:35.780 I've talked about it before.
01:11:36.560 I give you guys a lot of credit.
01:11:37.680 I wasn't monetizing you about it.
01:11:38.520 You did.
01:11:38.980 You yelled at me about it.
01:11:39.600 He's like, dude, why aren't you using this to make money? 0.99
01:11:41.280 Well, I'm just me being dumb. 0.77
01:11:42.700 Well, I just want to help people.
01:11:44.840 Well, if without money, I can't buy a better computer.
01:11:48.200 I can't purchase ads.
01:11:49.880 I can't do Patreon.
01:11:50.280 Your reach is limited.
01:11:51.500 Right. 0.77
01:11:51.820 But I can use the unrighteous mammon to grow.
01:11:54.960 And what am I doing?
01:11:56.120 I'm helping other people.
01:11:58.040 And I'm using it to grow.
01:11:59.700 And now I get a reward.
01:12:01.380 And when I get to the New Jerusalem, people are going to be saying thank you.
01:12:05.800 This is a great example.
01:12:06.860 I've been meeting people the past couple of days saying thank you.
01:12:09.220 I'm like, oh, you're welcome.
01:12:10.380 I didn't.
01:12:10.640 About to meet a bunch more.
01:12:11.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:12:12.640 So they're in there soon.
01:12:13.320 And that's why it's are you using money to help people
01:12:17.420 or are you helping people to make money?
01:12:20.180 There's two different things.
01:12:21.480 That's what I'm saying about that.
01:12:22.760 But the last thing I was going to say is in the fourth thing too,
01:12:26.000 the last thing Jesus said before he left the earth is make disciples.
01:12:29.020 Right.
01:12:29.680 I always joke and say, I wonder if that's the first question Jesus can ask
01:12:33.300 when he comes back.
01:12:34.060 How'd you do?
01:12:35.400 And the thing is, I had a program, and we're going to be helping people with this,
01:12:39.880 but I had a program that made disciples who made disciples who made disciples who made disciples.
01:12:45.780 And that's the thing, is you don't make a disciple and it stops there.
01:12:50.320 The proof someone's a disciple is they can make a disciple.
01:12:53.660 Right.
01:12:54.160 So that's the key.
01:12:55.260 It's got to be generative.
01:12:56.160 And that's the last three months, is making disciples and basically make heaven.
01:13:02.080 we're trying to demonstrate
01:13:04.260 eternity and that's what the three months of the
01:13:06.860 spiritual warfare course are because that's the will of
01:13:08.900 God. The will of God is
01:13:10.180 church, marriage, eternity
01:13:12.860 and that's what we're
01:13:14.680 that's what we want to build. We're going to end with that because that
01:13:16.840 is the ultimate defeat of the enemy
01:13:18.440 is fulfilling God's will and
01:13:20.780 doing our part to
01:13:22.580 help bring about God's will.
01:13:24.580 You saw John's
01:13:27.080 books, Modeling God's Will. It's his second book and that's
01:13:28.880 what people are going to have access to as we get
01:13:30.820 towards that because that's really our purpose as believers is to do our part to to bring about
01:13:37.720 his will because as john said yesterday god does god want he needs us to do that god cannot
01:13:43.100 violate our sovereignty he has to work through us and i know that freaks people out saying god
01:13:48.080 doesn't need me yeah he does he does and that doesn't make that doesn't lessen god that actually
01:13:53.240 elevates who he is and elevates us because he chose to do this through us not because he had
01:14:00.600 because he wanted to, and we help God get what he wants ultimately,
01:14:04.840 and that's what we're trying to do.
01:14:06.200 So let's talk about it then.
01:14:07.520 Where can people find it?
01:14:09.460 You can find it on faithbyreason.net.
01:14:12.780 That's where you'll find all of my material, my legacy stuff,
01:14:15.840 and that is where you will find this spiritual warfare course,
01:14:18.260 which we have been talking about.
01:14:19.500 You realize that what you just said then,
01:14:24.200 you're setting yourself up that you kind of have to do what we're doing here.
01:14:29.720 Yes.
01:14:29.940 Okay, I'm just letting you know that you said that.
01:14:32.960 He said the same thing to me.
01:14:34.220 He's like, you know, you don't really like talking to people,
01:14:36.960 and you get weird when people try to hug you,
01:14:39.400 and you do know what we're building.
01:14:41.200 Like, people are going to touch you.
01:14:42.920 I don't like to be touched.
01:14:44.480 If you continue to ask for a thing, then it's going to be expected of you.
01:14:48.380 So that's the direction that you're headed in.
01:14:51.080 If people know you don't like to be touched, that's part of the key.
01:14:53.980 It literally does not stop them at all.
01:14:57.220 But, you know, it's a fear that I have to deal with.
01:14:59.600 And there's a spirit of fear that I had to, you know, rebuke in the name of Jesus.
01:15:02.740 And I had that fear of people coming up to me and thanking me because it's false humility.
01:15:07.480 And that's not that.
01:15:08.120 It's like I just pointed back to God.
01:15:10.900 But anyway, to wrap it up, so yes, you can go to faithbyreason.net.
01:15:13.140 Get that stuff in my books.
01:15:14.820 Some of them are here.
01:15:15.420 I'll be signing.
01:15:16.480 Yes, yeah.
01:15:17.060 We have a couple of boxes of them up there.
01:15:18.520 Yeah.
01:15:18.780 And also you can go to my Patreon, patreon.com slash faithbyreason.
01:15:22.500 You can't see it, but I got it pulled up.
01:15:23.800 Yep.
01:15:24.320 Being part of the Bible study, the Q&As, all new content drops there first.
01:15:27.780 And you can get my books there as well.
01:15:29.600 And some of the other stuff I'm doing, we talked about before, some of the nighttime meditations for spiritual warfare for people who are dealing with that stuff at night and in the morning.
01:15:37.300 On the 14th is when they're going to drop.
01:15:39.200 I'm feverishly working to make sure I meet that.
01:15:41.140 I had to give myself a deadline.
01:15:42.180 Otherwise, I would procrastinate.
01:15:43.460 I hear you.
01:15:44.240 14th.
01:15:44.740 So that's.
01:15:45.300 All right.
01:15:45.720 John, where can we find your work?
01:15:47.540 Malingod.com.
01:15:49.100 I have my books here, too.
01:15:50.320 So I'll do that.
01:15:51.400 And I'm also working with Ed at Faith by Reason.
01:15:54.460 And that hasn't fallen yet.
01:15:56.360 It didn't fall.
01:15:56.680 It did not fall.
01:15:57.540 It's a miracle.
01:15:58.480 It's a miracle.
01:15:58.960 up there. It's hanging on by a thread, but
01:16:00.980 God's got it hanging up there. Yeah, you're going to be seeing
01:16:02.960 that, and I'm going to hang that in my office. I can't wait.
01:16:05.040 So thank you. Thank you, Top Lobster, for making that.
01:16:06.860 And I'm sorry I didn't mail it out. I'm just retarded. 1.00
01:16:10.700 Now I've got to work on hats and t-shirts. 0.89
01:16:13.240 We have that. We all have to
01:16:14.880 have that stuff figured out.
01:16:16.340 Alright, excellent, guys. Thank you again.
01:16:18.920 And I'm sorry it was like
01:16:20.800 two abbreviated episodes, but I think we put together
01:16:22.960 something kind of cool here today over two
01:16:24.940 days. I'm glad that you guys came
01:16:26.960 out and hung out, but there's still
01:16:28.940 long weekend this show hasn't even started i know well after this we got to start it's it's
01:16:33.120 happening we got an hour happening and i am now nervous are you you should be nervous too
01:16:38.020 they're gonna touch you
01:16:39.340 they're gonna lay hands on me don't touch me go touch it guys hang out we'll uh we'll be back
01:16:47.500 live uh if you haven't um i think it's what it's like the ten dollar tier level yes that you can
01:16:53.160 get uh bohemian grove or it's like ten dollars whatever it is go to the patreon go watch it
01:16:58.320 live. If not, you'll catch it later, but we'll see you. We'll see you.
01:17:28.320 Death Squad 0.99
01:17:30.320 Death Squad
01:17:32.320 Death Squad
01:17:40.320 Never look
01:17:42.320 Death Squad
01:17:44.320 When the last trumpet sounds
01:17:46.320 And the heavens
01:17:48.320 Okay, bye.