Straight Bibleā§¹NDS Q&A (Raven and Matt)
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Summary
On today's episode of That's Not What This Is, the boys are joined by a very special co-host, Zach. Zach is a long-time friend of the show and has been with us since the very beginning. He's been on the show before, but this time he was joined by the boys to talk about his love for The Ringer and how he became a dad to a toddler. Zach and the boys talk about what it's like being a new dad, how to introduce a toddler to the world, and how to deal with a new baby.
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Where you can explore the world of law, technology or medicine and see where it takes you.
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Introducing City St. George's, University of London.
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welcome back to another episode of matt and the raven that's not what this is q a sessions
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everybody just saw the uh interview with the raven there was actually a lot of um people in
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the chat saying i'm crying right now this is such a touching story we've waited to hear this
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what an incredible story of the raven's life and uh so i just want to tell you thank you for coming
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on the show to do that i actually don't know what anybody said because i couldn't read the chat
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because it was like off to the side in a big way you were reading the chat i know it's very
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disrespectful but um i don't know how it was received but i you know i know everything it was
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received like very lovingly people were huge fans and so they've been with you from the beginning
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and the ravens watch and even the j and d or whatever it was called j and the d's what was
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it called uh dave and j versus the world yeah that's a good one that's a good one i made up
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that name too all right so let's go straight into the questions okay for i guess maybe we should
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say for the listeners if you want to submit questions if you want a chance of them being
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read they're going to be on uh straight bibles patreon so if you get a straight bibles patreon
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you'll see a picture of my feet yeah which is great and because did you read the did you read
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the um post uh friday q a going live around noon with a very special surprise co-host very special
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surprise co-host and you posted a picture of my feet atma said i know them thighs all right um
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she knows she knows he she knows so if you go there you find a picture of the feet you'll be
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able to submit a question um you know i don't know i don't know i don't know if they put any
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questions out today that uh that we'll get to because we got to take them in order because
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it's not right we've screwed it up a couple times we're like people ask the questions like in the
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post and then the next day we you know when it's live we start taking questions off the thing that's
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not the right thing to do okay all right fine so excuse me uh the first question comes from
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dumbass actual which is zach zach was uh was here zach was here in studio with us once upon a time
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uh he came and hung out for a day um yeah yeah remember we had a a listener show up and they
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were like it was like a super big dude and i was on the side not like a fat dude come on the show
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he i believe smoked a vape did chronicles with us remember we had like a impromptu like a guess
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and we said hey sit down dog yeah yeah he was hitting the vape yeah pretty sure that was zach
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um i stunk up you guys out on thanksgiving says zach yeah there we go so yeah yeah yeah
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this is general advice for new fathers what is the best way to begin introducing the bible to
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a toddler toddler being what like five one to five no just just read it dude it's actually
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going to be the best thing in the universe for you because if you read a bible to a kid
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the kid doesn't do the whole like grown-up thing they're just like wait wait dad what do you what
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do you mean the red sea parted what does that even mean like they'll just say questions like
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that right and then you'll have to explain to a kid you know what's happening in the story that's
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why sometimes you guys get mad at me when i say wait what can you explain it but that's i'm trying
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to get you to do like a child no i'm just trying to get you to explain it in such a way that it's
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so clear what you're saying because that that's how kids ask like i don't know growing up if you
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do bible study with grown-ups it's cool but like there's certain questions they're not going to ask
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because they don't want to look stupid sure and then there's a certain way they're going to try
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to look and be cool and there's just a certain uh even almost like a concept of kind of i already
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understand the story even if i don't where like kids don't have any of that dude it's like the
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number one thing is just read them the bible dude especially like when they're going to bed
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that's smart yeah it's a great way to read the bible dude yeah why would you why would you do
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like other bedtime stories right yeah exactly like you have a book of bedtime stories you could
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and you could revisit them over and over and over again and find new fruits every time yes
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my yeah my homie ben from end of the world news shout out to ben from end of the world news love
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that dude because your friends are my friends no i didn't say that i would say he's our friend
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before so he's like more i would say at the least more our friend than but i was explaining to him
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because you know i don't know if you know or not but like it's the there's some words that you say
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and all of a sudden everybody lose their mind regardless of which size they're which side
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they're on okay for that topic one of them is this word called israel and i was just talking
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to him and saying like yeah dude all my kids heroes are jewish because their entire childhood
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i read them the bible before bed like people don't like that no no they really yeah no they
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don't isn't that crazy though because that's what i'm saying when i entered this conversation about
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israel and there was like this people going crazy and stuff like this is strange to me because like
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all my kids here all my heroes are jewish the entire bible is jewish that's a banger sure that's
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great all my heroes are jews is a banger it's just wild dude and god's wisdom for whatever reason he
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decided to do this way he worked he operated through a nation yeah which whatever i'm not
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even talking about anything that has anything to do with israel today i'm not even doing that so
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don't lose your mind i was having this conversation with somebody because they were you know it was
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this idea that jesus was jewish and and how the guy was like well i don't think that that means
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anything and i'm like well i think it does mean something because it's it's it's literally a
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a symbol of god's promise to abraham right like god promised that the world would be healed through
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his line and so like specifically abraham isaac and jacob though it's a specific lineage right
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right but like so his jewishness is the genetic material that is of that lineage well it's genetic
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but it's more of a culture i mean he's he's his genetics is god right right but in that sense
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isn't he like you know this is what the railians believe they go oh jesus is nephilim like no well
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look if you wanted to say he's 100 god and he's 100 man like he's right but you would say he has
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genetic material like all right so if you had a nephilim it's a good it's a good question i don't
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think he's made of half mary and half god okay interesting i think he's made of 100 god and
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mary was an incubator if you will i think that's okay i think that's what the bible teaches and
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then and if somebody wants to go back and forth on that i'm happy to hear it hear them out but i
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don't i think he was there's a man in the godhead like i think that's what people have a hard time
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with is like there's a man in the godhead he's a man he is god he is man they had the capability
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to put him inside mary's womb but it was like it's the blood of god that sanctifies right it's
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not the blood of a human it's the blood of god but god is a man i know that gets a little
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complicated i don't want to get in the weeds on it no that's all right but um that's interesting
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i hadn't thought about it that way but i'm just saying like yeah he's not puerto rican you know
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no that's for sure he's not canadian and he was never going to be puerto rican right so like it's
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just it's intriguing that god operated through a nation and so you start to tell these stories to
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your kids at bedtime you start to tell them anytime it's story time you read them bible
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stories man you get like a good uh bible book or you can even get pilgrim's progress dude there is
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a gangster pilgrim's progress that's like a big book uh for kids that you can read with like really
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cool pictures too that's a great way to tell the story of the bible okay like through pilgrim's
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progress too by the way before we go any further i want to show people this guys if you're interested
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in this reach out to kenny the fed you can find him on uh twitter kenny the fed on twitter if not
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just hit us up i may be able to get you the link but discord right now is doing this really
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fantastic thing the dangerous retards have gotten together nephilim death squad bible study ndsbs
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um we just had the first one yesterday was it yesterday uh at no it was like the day before
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yesterday whatever it was uh 7 30 at night i hung out there for an hour it was really great trevor
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massey sparrows in there cherries in there scott's in there um a bunch of people are in there and
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they're all just talking about the old covenant and the new covenant and that's what they're
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talking about yeah dude yeah it was really cool so are they getting nasty about it or no no they
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were super super dope really like understanding and doing a lot of like really thorough explanations
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a lot of um what this is what i think as far as i can tell type of deal yeah kenny the fed that's
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his name kenny the fed not the fag uh that's not nice so if you're interested in being a part of
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that i don't really know much about how discord works it just seems like you can kind of hop in
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there and um oh nice and dave burns is here oh dave burns is here that's awesome man what's up
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dave bro what's up yo what up it's a nephilim what's up what's up dave how is he taller than
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you dude bro he's huge man look at this guy and he crushes on guitar too that's awesome we're
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getting eclipsed in there we'll go to matt's camera we don't have do we have chairs man
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you sure yeah i've got to go to a wrestling convention are you guys partaking in the
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wrestling convention but he's gonna walk around and be taller than everybody hell yeah dude
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that's gotta be nice you guys coming by the farm at all this weekend or you know he'll be up in a
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couple more weeks he's doing football practice okay come dude you got him in football smart
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smart very cool come over and play guitar and we'll hang in the food for what was your name
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bo bo that's right that makes sense good meeting you guys take it easy dave i'll see you later
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um that's always nice you come by the standard coffee shop you can uh come say hi so yeah guys
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if you're interested in that let us know and uh i'll get you the link for it and they're doing
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bible studies and it's very cool post the link can't be doing that right now um kenny can you
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post the link in the the patreon chat i see you in there can you do it kenny uh post the link to
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the discord in the patreon chat there so that people can can hop on it okay so anyway um back
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to you matt no no don't no no no i'm just trying to get into the to the post don't be texting on
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your own i got another one so confused right now okay so so the answer to that question is read
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the bible and then you gotta live it like you can't leave it like we read these passages about
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um people in the scripture like laying hands on people praying for them and they're healed yeah
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so like when our dog got sick they told us the dog had cancer yeah all four of us laid our hands
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on our dog and prayed for him like you can't you can't pray for her pray for her yeah i mean yeah
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she didn't have cancer dude she ended up like totally i was gonna say even if it didn't work
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way longer 100 of the prayers you don't make yeah dude they they uh when we took her back they were
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like yeah she doesn't have cancer so like you have to do that like you should be reading these stories
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so i guess that's another thing is like read them these stories and then when they hear these
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stories about you can pray for people and they're healed like every time my kids were sick they'd
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say they'd ask jess or me to pray for them because they were sick like they they just you have to get
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this in their spirit because remember the bible's not a religion it's the story of reality so you're
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telling kids like this is the story of reality you understand what i'm saying like you like you
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frame the world that they live in you say this is reality so then when they're sick they're like i
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don't want to be sick pray for me because that's what they understand that's what they know that's
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the culture that they live in yeah and so you have to not just read it that's like how you teach them
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stop you know you don't have to teach them stop living in a materialistic paradigm you just have
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to teach them how to engage with the spiritual one yeah and that and and that's how you just
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read the stories they hear those stories so then they're sick they say pray for me you're the dog
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sick they say let's pray for the dog like you or even if they don't say you say hey guys come here
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we're all gonna lay hands on mickey like we're gonna pray for it yeah we don't have a choice
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here we gotta do this all right so it's all those things that's like the whole thing for everything
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is you gotta read it and live it and then live it and then read it and then read it and then live
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it all right uh this is from hermits huckleberry hermit says uh would your wife ever join for a
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husband wife q a and that's part one of the question i'll read the other one but we you know
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answer the first one how do we keep things from becoming idols in today's world food phone work
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etc so let's let's deal with the first one would jess ever join you for a husband wife q a no no
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no she would never ever come on the show ever really yeah i'm like sweetie it would be fun
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like i was like you have a there was a chick at the gym the other day that uh and i was glad
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i was working out with bella and i went to get water and this chick like chased me down and she
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goes hey tell your wife thank you so much i heard you telling the story to somebody else at the gym
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that she's carnivore and how good her life's going and it encouraged me i knew i needed to
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changed my diet and I was really just struggling to do it and when I heard her story I've been
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carnivore since she's like I've had a one or two cheat days yeah but for the most part I've been
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carnivore and I've lost x amount of weight and I feel better tell your wife thank you and then so
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I was like can you just hang tight for a second I was like Bella Bella come here so Bella came
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I was like go ahead tell me so like then Bella got to hear how the lady said this Jess has like
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this rad story in this rad life and she would also if she wanted to you know that the females
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on instagram that are just like um oh like an influencer type character yeah if you wanted to
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carnivore influencer no not just that like when she does her nails dude her nails are like
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cooler than any pro nail chair i bet you that's true because the the care she takes with pastries
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pastries little works of sourdough bread like name name a thing that's like cool today like she's
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she's she's already living it she's like picking medicine from the farm but she's too chill for
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that because i remember one time anything to do with it when you guys were doing the the you know
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we're doing the big bible study out front and we had all those people in here uh top and i came
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back afterwards to like drop off some equipment or maybe it was mid-show whatever and jess was
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back here peace and quiet all alone knitting yeah knitting couldn't be bothered there's a bible
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study happening in the back there's a bible study happening in the front she just what she seems
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like she enjoys her solitude but knitting is like a thing too like you like she has a hundred things
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that's what I'm saying is like the chicks here they're like oh I want to be Jess when I grow up
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like they like so many girls have said that or they say I hope we're like I hope when I'm married
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we're like you and Jess and they're like I want to be like Jess or such and such has so much in
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common with Jess but it's like no that person doesn't have anything in common with Jess they
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just think all those things are cool but Jess is actually doing it like you have to like have the
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discipline to do it yeah um but anyway I dude I would love that I would love if she told some of
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her story because i think it's very encouraging especially for ladies who are like because a lot
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of females are super anxiety today and super unsure of their self and just i don't know there's
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like a lot of stuff that's hard for females in society today i would love it i don't think she
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knows how to do the chat or anything or i don't know maybe she'll text me and say she might be
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watching i don't know but sweetie if you ever would i would love that oh by the way the school
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of flourishing i saw that you asked a question i started if we get through these questions on
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patreon i'll go back and i'll read some of these questions if i catch them in the live chat although
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uh we're not supposed to keep this live past the 25 minute mark so um you know highly unlikely
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what are you the new nancy you're like this is what the boss said the boss said you know he did
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say that he did say that so he is the big i gotta kick the people out the other question and uh is
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how do we keep things from becoming idols in today's world phone food work etc that comes
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from hermit's huckleberry well um i don't i guess yeah i guess i've actually struggled with that
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same thing but i just wasn't calling it an idol but at the end of the day it is it's anything
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in your life that you put before god and so i don't know i think you have to have some context
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and i think you have to communicate with god about it because i'm in a phase right now and
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i've kind of been in a phase for 10 years solid is that a phase well i don't know what you'd call
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it i mean yeah because some stuff just 10 years and then i mean i was obsessed with coffee for
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like 10 years and now i'm not really necessarily on a coffee obsessed with it i'm i'm more
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i don't know it's kind of like the guy who loves fishing but then he becomes a fishing
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charter and he just doesn't he's not sure he doesn't want to fish when he's not around like
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i still love coffee but so much of my coffee life has to do with like training new people
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getting people to do stuff in uniform like you know just all this other stuff but like the last
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10 years it's been hardcore food forest stuff right it's like a lot of time i spend a lot of
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my free time in my mind daydreaming about food forest stuff um and so at some point you you have
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to say like god i'm thinking about the food forest more than i'm thinking about you when i wake up
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first thing in the morning do i think about god that's a big thing dude we should be we should be
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and if we're not i definitely go through phases where i'm not but when i wake up i want the first
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thing to think i want to thank god that's the first thing i want to think is like oh yeah this
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is all the stuff like that you made like that like thank you yeah right on i'm still here yeah i made
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it through the night and before we go to bed we should be thinking about him but like sometimes
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i wake up and i'm thinking about um the food forest or i know you know this we've talked about
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it before i'm thinking about a study i've got to put together so even like a bible study is a good
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thing but even that can get in the way of you and god man like there's a lot of good things that can
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get in the way of you and god so for as far as it how do we keep things from becoming an idol i always
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want to ask god what does this have to do with your kingdom yeah like like is this just a thing
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that i just want to do or is this something that maybe somehow in some way whether i can see it or
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not is going to have something to do with your kingdom i don't know why i like obsess over a
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food forest and like growing stuff and planting stuff but i don't know if god's like nah dude you
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you because i could sense myself like ferociously needing to get stuff planted i don't know if he's
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like yeah man because at some point this is going to be this thing for your community like this is
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going to be your thing sure people are going to be drawn to it and that's the way you're going to be
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able to preach the gospel i don't know i don't know but i know him enough to know he's kind of
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guiding me into that the phone i don't think the phone can ever be like a good thing no i don't
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think this one can ever be a good thing either i think it's uh it's you know teams of uh engineers
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and psychologists are working together to create the most parasitic thing that they possibly can
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yeah you know so it's it's um it's engineered to hijack all of your attention and an idol is
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anything you put before god and i think if we're being honest i mean i remember the og preachers
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saying a long time ago if people want to be super deep and spiritual just substitute the amount of
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time you spend in front of a tv with the amount of time you spend with a bible he said just separate
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those two things and all of a sudden you'll have a spiritual church so imagine now with the doom
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scrolling oh yeah dude imagine if you substituted the time of the phone you ever notice that tiktok
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is like flipping through the channels i can't play tiktok but i did start to do i think it's
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similar on instagram where it's just a short thing exactly yeah but then next thing you know boobs
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show up if you oh yeah you're going like this and then you know what i was talking about there's
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boobs and then you're watching a little longer than you should so then the next one's boob you're
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like i can't i can't even do the way that it does that it's like oh so you like that huh you looked
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that for a few seconds it's like no i there's like a shock and awe factor just like if a fight
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one pops up like normally i'm watching like cliff diving or like you know like i just like cliff i
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like watching cliff diving stuff i got to a thing for a long time where i watched black people fight
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and then all of my thing was just black people fighting but you know i i was wondering about
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this idea of of you know you're talking about thinking about god every day and first thing
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that you do when you wake up and i i kind of like found myself getting distant for a while and and
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not talking to god as much and now i've come back to it and and i'm trying to do it differently
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because what was happening before was i was praying almost in a formula formulaic fashion
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bad right so we're gonna read that on the next ray bible i'm i'm thinking about like well what
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do i first want to pray for i want to first pray for god's will above all things whatever that is
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let's get that first so first off like you know when in the bible it talks about like your will
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be done your kingdom come like whatever it is whatever your plan is above all things that then
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i move on to um sort of gratitude yeah i probably start with gratitude and then go into yeah yeah
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so i mean and then i go because it's also gratitude for his plan yeah like thank god you
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have a plan thank god i'm part of that my mom dropped some banger one-liners back in the day
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dude uh one of them was don't pray to god for anything before you've thanked him for what he's
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already given you yes like as much like i've been through a lot of life since that time that's the
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thing that's always stuck with me and uh i just i don't know like that's ingrained in me it's like
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if i'm gonna start communicating with god like the very first thing i'm gonna say is like hey
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thanks that i'm still here yeah not really sure how you pulled it off thank you so much i'm still
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here that's it so i'll go i'll go you know your plan and then of course that goes into like thank
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you for your plan yeah thank god god has a plan it's a i don't have to come up with it yeah dude
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we'd be all screwed um and then it is you know like repentance but like just just i'm sorry for
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the things in which like you know if i was extra grumpy dad that week or maybe i was
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yeah uh too gluttonous because i'm eating all the sweets at matt's party or you know whatever
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like these things that take over that take you that take over me um and then i try to go
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praying for enemies because i've that's something that i've kind of learned is like a it's a little
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bit of a trick almost i feel like it expedites the things that you ask for and then when i do
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ask for things it's really just like let me be a good tool let me be a good servant and what
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everything is but that's the formula and what i found was like i'm not so so the bible is kind
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of we're sticking to that formula so all right there's that and then there's the bible which is
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getting to understand god god's story yeah who god is the nature of god like all these things
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but there's like a third component that i was missing and that was just like conversating
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like i don't have it feels like i imagine if you went to your wife every day and i was very
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formula like thank you for being a good mother and thank you for being a good wife and thank you
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for keeping that's what i'm saying no it's it's just as real it's more real than that relationship
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think of how offended yeah your wife would be like hey you freaking robot like yeah like what
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and then i'm reading a story about my wife all the time yeah no that dude we're touching on a
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major topic so it's like a three-part thing that's why i i kind of came away because i was like every
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day i'm doing this every day i'm praying to god and every day i'm i'm hitting these same things
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and in that way like i'm over analyzing i'm like i gotta be it's gotta be god's plan and i gotta be
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grateful for god's plan and then i gotta like pray for these people that may not be praying for me
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and then i've got to like all these different things and it's like i i realized like um
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i wasn't talking to him like he was like a friend or a father yeah yeah imagine like
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it's good to do those things but then it's good to be like hey god that thing that happened in
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the shop today was crazy wasn't it like that was wild like what do you want me to do with that or
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like what am i supposed to you know how do you want me to handle this or thank you for this
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person being there but they've got this thing like how should i handle that thing with them and
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yeah yeah it's just it's a real living you're having a real conversation with the creator of
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the universe that's like a little bit trickier no it's a little bit no no it's a lot easier i mean
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for it becomes easy but it is like you know understanding who god is you know where to go
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for that and then like the structure of prayer which i do think is important because if you're
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just going to god every day and you're like god bless me give me the money and the good job god
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he knows what you have need of before you even ask dude so why i don't know i'm at i get to a
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point where i don't even really feel and i've walked and i have a track record with god now
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where like he does a thing where i'm like i wouldn't even have asked for that thank god he
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was in charge of what he was doing instead of like me just asking for stuff yeah yeah that i i feel
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that way as well so i don't really ask for anything like i don't ask for anything except
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for like his will yeah just like uh show me a thing that's in the way of me being a good servant
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or being a good tool and like like help me to address that thing is that bag of chicken still
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in here what's that yeah dude that's a chicken bro hell yeah man i got a bag of uh public's
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fried chicken on the floor i need to eat something for here okay all right i don't want to take up
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all the time with my thing okay yeah what was the did we get the question yeah that was how to keep
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things from being an idol and you basically like keep your eyes on god right yeah it's anything
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and i think that helps too is to just say uh god what does this have to do with your kingdom like
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can i justify like i don't know i i know the voice of god i know his um wooings of me and
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guidance of me yeah to know that like he wants me to do a food forest thing and i look at i'm
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saying like yeah this isn't really for personal gain like i'm spending a lot of my free time that
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i could be doing something uh somewhat funner but i don't know about more satisfying like building
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a farm is very satisfying yeah but i just have to believe that like he's guiding me in this thing
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to help other people too including my wife my kids my grandkids i don't even know yet like
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my community hopefully at some point but just like yeah what does this have to do with your kingdom
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hunting can be a thing too like i get in phases where like when it's hunting season like all i'm
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thinking about is hunting you know it's like you just kind of have to just keep an eye on it hey
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we're gonna stay close to them and communicate with them we're at the 25 minute mark i'm gonna
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at like the 25 second mark we'll let the poor people get five more minutes five more minutes
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okay um and then we're gonna get this will come out obviously it's in its entirety but we're gonna
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cut the stream soon to the youtube and then it'll be released elsewhere and then eventually on the
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on the channel so yeah a food forest is just the same way god does stuff like no there's nobody
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walking through a forest like fertilizing it and watering it it's the decomposing of leaves and
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everything else that's natural so you use a mulch system yeah i was looking at that i came over your
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place and i saw you were like stacking like just like a trimmings around the base of the tree and
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all that chop and drop yeah because you can grow your own fertilizer you chop it and drop it just
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like in a regular forest well somebody said something okay what's the next one uh okay so
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we got hgtv holly whose whose father's house has many rooms father's man oh i remember that one
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she says any advice to someone who is married to a non-believer very personal but my husband says
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he believes in god but he hates the 501c3 i get it that's what she says uh wouldn't come to my
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baptism that stinks yeah and mocks christians and the bible sadly okay so this is i get i know this
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type of person uh believes in god just we're not doing the christian definition of god by me so
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yeah um he even laughed at me and made gay jokes when he found me in the prayer closet
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it that sucks dude that i cleared out made without telling him that sucks that actually sucks a lot
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i fucking i hate that uh i don't know what indoctrination taught him this but he and his
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sister both say the bible is just quote one man's translation whenever i quote scripture i i i don't
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know what indoctrination taught that either hgtv holly but that is super common and even an idea
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that i uh kind of kept in my back pocket all those years ago just looking for any advice that
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hopefully won't start any fights between us and owl lauren um from a previous episode says second
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so that means that this is a common a common thing so she's already on the path just by that last
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part any advice that hopefully won't start any fights between us you're already like miles ahead
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of the average oh yeah yeah yeah because like it's a slow thing it's a seed planting thing it's a
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gentle you know well it's just like the people that know us closest dude that it's like those
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are the hardest but the but the answer is pray like we're talking about yeah dude take that exact
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scenario take that exact thing and communicate with god about it just like he's in the room just
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like top and raving make fun of me when i pray it's like i'm talking to somebody in the room just
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do exactly that say god like and don't be afraid to cry or like however you really do feel about it
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like your innermost feelings god knows what you're feeling don't worry that anybody's watching or
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seeing you pray just like go to god and like really let it out to him just be like god this
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is this thing like what like what am i supposed to be doing with this i'm like let him get him
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involved and like let him start to work on it and then my advice for like how you're living your
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life is like you just have to live it you have to be very mindful to live it and um it's very easy
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to yeah get in the fights and be like oh yeah well you did this oh yeah you did that we start
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doing that with each other like i don't know i feel like it's very easy people will understand
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what i'm saying if you don't you say mean stuff about this next statement then that's on you but
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are you gonna say something mean no i'm just saying something you have to understand in context
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it's very easy to be a missionary to another country right it's a lot it's a lot harder to
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be a missionary in your own home or in or in your own community with people who know it's
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much harder to do that in your own home is the hardest you know what it is something very similar
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it's easy to stand up to strangers than it is your own friends your own friends and family
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very hard to stand up to them and you know kind of stand on your beliefs what do you think about
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the idea of um he believes in god but not like the christian god this is not defining it scripture
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is just well i don't know him but it's funny that he said that she said his sister too because my
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brother and sister are kind of kind of that like that it's very common just kind of like uh you
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know also yeah the news can be trusted you know like the medical system can be trusted the
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government can be trusted like kind of you know from like the world of like being a normal person
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yeah and and succeeding within that system and just kind of like oh this christian thing that's
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so stupid i love that she cleared out a space made a prayer closet that's huge man that's awesome
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uh huge bummer that he he made fun of it but i mean that's no no no this is like a great this
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like this is a great opportunity for this to be a wonderful story yeah it is yeah sometime down
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the road right i'm saying the fact that he made fun of it and called it gay imagine when he gets
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it yeah but also like okay that's a pretty small reaction that's cool you know i mean it's not like
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was like what are you doing fix this closet up quit doing that shit in the house like you just
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kind of made funny you mocked it a little bit like okay and how much of that is you're kind of
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you know touching a nerve on him man sure that's usually how it goes that he knows so that's what
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i'm saying just be very gentle with them yeah i think sometimes we get in this spot where we think
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that uh i don't know we just forget how good jesus has been to us and what he saved us from
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yeah we just need to be mindful of being that good to others who are mocking us and yeah i had
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a i had a weird you know transition into all of this and i'm so grateful that god allowed it to
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happen the way that it did and it was really slow going but my wife being a jehovah's witness an
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ex-jehovah's witness um i was so uh i i wasn't against christianity i was against the jehovah's
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witnesses because i saw a lot of things that didn't make sense it wasn't so much in the
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theology i didn't know what they believed just on how they treated people and how they would like
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cast them out and they would close doors on them and they would tell families to turn their backs
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on people who fell away from the church and things like that and that just didn't make sense to me
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because if you're trying to you know spread the gospel why would you people who are struggling
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with their faith you outcast them you know that doesn't seem like what you do so um i i had a lot
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of issues with the way the system was when she finally came out of it I thought there was gonna
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come a time where I was probably gonna end up looking at Christianity and this is eventually
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what did happen and I don't want to be like hey I know you went through all that shit to come out
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of being a Jehovah's Witness but like let's jump right back into Christianity you know what I mean
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like you can you see how that would have been I didn't want to do that to her so my my walk
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started happening like privately on my own and then she would see it and it would just be like
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that's what it's supposed to be anything other than that ends up being a disaster but i thought
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for sure trying to win an argument or like tell somebody who doesn't believe in the authority of
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scripture telling them scriptures is no yeah yeah eventually though you know when the conversations
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did start happening out loud to one another like she had seen it and she knew the path that i took
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to get there and so she was just like okay okay here's a story i keep in mind especially about
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how if somebody's like uh did you know did me wrong or you know you feel like you know that
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sounds like a story where there's a little bit of like yeah my husband like did me wrong sure i mean
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what did she say she says uh that he uh he wouldn't come to the baptism mocked christianity
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she says sadly yeah that's like yeah i could see where that would be like hurting feelings and be
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bitter and unforgiving this is a story that i think of in that this is in matthew 18 starting
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in verse 21, then came Peter to Jesus and said, Lord, how often shall my brothers sin against me
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and I forgive him till seven times? Jesus said unto him, I say not unto thee until seven times,
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but until 70 times seven. Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king,
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which would take account of his servants. And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him,
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which owed him 10,000 talents. But for as much as he had not to pay, his Lord commanded him to be
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sold and his wife and children and all that he had in payment to be made. The servant therefore
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fell down and worshiped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.
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Then the Lord of that servant was moved with compassion and loosed him and forgave him the
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debt. But the same servant went out and found one of his fellow servants, which owed him a hundred
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pence, right? So he owes this guy 10,000 talents. He gets forgiven the debt. He goes out and finds
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a guy that owes a hundred pence and laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, pay me
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that you owe me. And his fellow servant fell down on his feet and besought him, saying, have patience
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with me and I'll pay you all. And he would not, but went and cast him into prison until he should
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pay the debt. So when his fellow servants saw what was done, they were very sorry and came and told
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unto their Lord all that was done. Then his Lord, after that, he had called him, said unto him,
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oh, you wicked servant, I forgave you all the debt because you desired me. You should not thou
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also have had, you shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellow servant, even as I
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had pity on thee. Sorry, the King James got a little funny there. He's saying, shouldn't you
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have had mercy on this servant the same way i had mercy on you right and his lord was wroth and
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delivered into the tormentors till he should pay all that was due unto him so likewise shall my
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heavenly father do also unto you if you from your hearts forgive not everyone his brother their
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trespasses okay so i know it's long-winded but like anytime i find myself with like even yeah
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like a loved one i've been in this scenario with people before man where maybe i want to hold a
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grudge against them and uh i just have to stop and look at who i was and what christ did for me
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yeah and then you're embarrassed that you end up being embarrassed i'm holding a grudge against
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this person it's not to say that's not terrible to live with a spouse who's like mocking you i
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know it is but just keep the context of like what you look like to jesus and he still died for you
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to save you yeah we have to have that same forgiveness and that same mercy to other people
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and also man it's like when that comes together it's gonna be beautiful beautiful yeah it's gonna
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to be a beautiful thing when he's gonna tell the testimony one day in the story how he used to mock
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his wife but her sweetness and her mercy and her forgiveness towards him is what won him to the
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lord like to me i just read that i go that's a great opportunity yeah this this next one is a
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really interesting uh question this comes from fj fool fj says um how would you witness to someone
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who is angry with god same this is the same question isn't it in a lot of ways it is right
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i mean it feels like you almost wouldn't you would live a life that would witness to them
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pray for them yeah for one which which if you study paul's writings he never really prays for
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anybody that he uh hasn't thanked god for he if you notice his um well i don't know if that's an
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accurate statement i'm just saying that like his letters he's always thanking god for people and i
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think it's a good practice i heard this somewhere it's a good practice to not pray for anybody that
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you can't thank god for so if you're going to pray for somebody thank god for them first so
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say it's somebody who's what hostile to god angry at god interesting yeah thank god for them first
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and then pray for them and then live it man now yeah that's really the thing for everybody bro
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is you got to live it like you got to live it if you don't live it then it doesn't matter like it
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like it doesn't matter and i'm not saying you have to live it tomorrow if this is new to you
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start cultivating that time with god get alone with god don't try to read books about how to
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do christian stuff like just get alone with god let him work on you and slowly but steadily the
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same way a fruit tree grows like it's a seed and then boom takes a long time that sprouts and takes
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a long time and it's got a reasonable trunk it could be years till there's fruit like in the
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same way just be patient play the long game and get alone with god and let him deal with it all
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right a dog says uh what are those he's talking about my feet in the sandal that you decided to
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use as the picture for this uh q a and i don't know why you did that but i'll allow it mama llama
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says top five books besides the bible to understand slash get us excited to explore the bible
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that was a question i didn't see yeah mama llama with the banger
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i mean we've already talked about bunyan with pilgrim's progress but i think holy war is
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probably better journey to hell's good man but that's not holy war from bunyan is up there um
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anything from gcam and worgen is up there i don't even know how to justify that alexander white
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anything from him is fire but bible characters is like especially fire bible characters what's
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that about the characters in the bible it is a deep dive on every character in the bible and so
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he just pulls out these stories that you never noticed before man interesting and and then like
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people who have like only one or two sentences written about them does a deep dive on what you
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what you find out from those one or two sentences about that person like how telling it is how about
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um i am legend or maybe uh whitley striver's communion no i'm not into those no i don't know
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that's fine but um i mean oswald chambers at my utmost for his highest is a banger watchman knees
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got bangers andrew murray's got bangers i don't know that's how i i don't i don't really um
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i don't c.s lewis i like like when i'm going to bed i don't really read c.s lewis like on a
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normal i don't read study like with a pen and underlining stuff but if you're going to pen
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and underline stuff i just recommend g camel morgan uh yeah oswald chambers andrew murray
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watchman need charles spurgeon alexander white i mean even moody there's i don't it's raven hill
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there's just so many dude all right so what was that list again can you run through those those
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names uh g camel morgan is usually at the top of my list alexander white is usually up there maybe
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even above morgan um i love derrick prince's stuff but you can watch his videos which is cool because
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most of the people i read you can't get any videos of them they're too old but raven hill and derrick
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prints you can get videos of so so those guys crush for that but then like i don't know there's
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like baxter there's um there's just there's spurgeon about hyzer dude um i don't read a ton
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of hyzer i actually i don't read a ton of hyzer either i watch well yeah that's a guy you can
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watch you can watch a lot of his stuff he did a lot of talks that are really fantastic uh top
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wants me to bring this up we already brought it up once but bring it up watchman knee you should
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read watchman knee the spirit of the word you should you should read that spirit of the word
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by watchman knee because it's like it's not just about the letter of the words the spirit behind
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it that's a powerful book uh this is the i wish i went and saw that question yesterday so i could
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have been that's okay hey don't beat yourself up about it dude uh nephilim death squad bible study
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ndsbs uh this is happening on discord if you guys are interested reach out to not this the
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catholic priest article you son of a fluffing ass give me a second here guys this is not but
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what i mean yeah reach out to kenny the fed and get into the bible study on discord that happens
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i don't know if it's happening every week uh but it is happening it happened this week uh let me
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see real quick i didn't see anything else in the production room chat there's i mean uh top there's
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nothing there i got what's top talking about he's just anxiety because he's going on a vacation now
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yeah there's nothing in the production room let me refresh it maybe that's what you see what
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somebody said back to her tell him to grow up and stop being an asshole yeah i saw some people were
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very mean okay so that's not gonna work there's an article i mean i get what you're saying but
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like that's not going to work there's an article here um from abc news it says the catholic
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archbishop of washington dc removed a well-known priest as an exorcist of the archdiocese
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diocese diocese um diocese what are we where are we at i'm reading this well focus stop looking at
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your phone look over here the catholic archbishop of washington dc removed a well-known priest
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as an exorcist of the archdiocese or diocese whatever the hell you said um after he made
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public comments suggesting that ufo sightings were the work of demons did you hear any of that
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matt stop scrolling through your phone well you missed some of these comments man this guy says
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this is rough and hits close to home i used to be that asshole i knew there was a god but had yet
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so i don't know are we supposed to read the sub comments yeah i think so there's a lot of them
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so yeah there's that they removed a priest okay okay you like you're missing ones do you top was
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doing this last week top told me to go to that i don't know he's still the boss or not that i'm
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saying you jumped to top five books besides the bible but somebody before that said how did you
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explain salvation to your kids when they were young no not here that's not in the correct order
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i have not that's not how it's showing up on the laptop don't worry we're gonna get there
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you sure yeah you do it now or just you go in order i'm gonna keep going in order okay
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all right sorry because i like that question i didn't i guess i didn't see any of these i thought
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i saw a bunch of questions yesterday but um sorry so the very next question after that is
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how did you explain salvation to your kids you went over it no look i'm not gonna can't show
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you but okay it's fine that's what order it goes no i told me god i know god i don't really talk
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in terms of like salvation i guess a lot i don't know i talk in terms of like you gotta know the
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lord yeah because i i guess i never really thought about like that but just i don't like the whole
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uh paul says like we're closer to salvation now than when we first believed and i think like the
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modern american mindset is like salvation yeah like when you say the prayer and it's like boom
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you're good and that's not really how the bible explains it man even john 3 16 it says like anyone
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who goes on believing like if you like if you read it in the greek what's his name david pauston
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does a good deep dive on that hold on i'll read it so ladies so there's so there's context but like
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um okay here's this passage it always gets quoted that's like you can go through a drive-thru and
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get safe like you know you just drive through high five jesus and boom you're nice you've got
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go back to your busy life you're safe uh this is what it says in john 3 16 for god so loved the
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world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but
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have everlasting life so people are like yeah man it's a one and done you just believe and you're
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good well in the greek which i'm no uh greek grammar yeah you are person i'm just like somebody
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with blue letter bible but david pawson does a deep dive on this he says it reads like this in
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the greek for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever goes on
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believing in him should not perish but have everlasting life and if you study john's writings
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like at the end of john's gospel he says i wrote this to you so that you would go on believing
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right he says um that makes a lot of sense because you could stop believing something
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right well you can just right which again we go back to this word faith which means faithful or
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loyalty to right it doesn't mean like i believe in unicorns like you have to know jesus sure yeah
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and so you can walk away from that relationship i know people get real touchy about this conversation
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but like you can know the lord and just like walk away from that conversation or maybe you maybe you
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didn't know him maybe you didn't know him to be fair but you can like play the game do the stuff
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and then like walk away from it and so you just end up in this weird place i mean we know in the
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book of revelation that one of the churches jesus reprimands because he says you left your first
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love it's you know people say you lost your first love no you left your first love right somebody
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said like it's different if you take your dog to the park and lose your dog at the park it's
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different if you take your dog to the park and leave your dog at the park he says you left your
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first love so back to the idol thing like that's a thing man is like god can be in your life he can
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be number one and then all this other stuff comes up so uh yeah so in john in john's gospel in that
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same gospel chapter 20 it says in many other signs truly did jesus in the presence of his
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disciples which are not written in this book but these are written that you might go on believing
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that jesus is the christ the son of god and that believing going on believing you might have life
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through his name so like it's this thing of like continuing to believe so i don't know anyway i say
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all that along with an answer to say like i don't talk to my kids in the way of like salvation the
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way it's talked and instead it seems like you just talk about know the lord yeah yeah well that that
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elongated conversation about the bible and the characters and jesus and all this other thing is
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a constant watering of that yeah relationship yeah because it's keeping it in their life the whole
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reason to read a bible is to bring you into that living relationship with god if it's not that
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because i know people think like oh that's good you know the bible matt so you can do a good bible
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study okay cool that's that's cool that's good it's like it's it's fun to know this stuff i got
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it you know it's good this shapes your life but the number one thing i'm doing reading a bible or
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spending my life thinking about the bible is getting to know god and to be close to him that's
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all that's all i've ever told my kids too guys i don't care what college or if you go to college
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I don't care like any of the things I do care probably second behind God,
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like all of the other things just comes down to,
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Are you in communication with him so that he's guiding your life?
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it's just this idea of continuing to introduce,
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like you're having conversations with your kids that are biblical in the sense that it's still
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it's all still like all of your conversations with your kids are through a biblical lens
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yeah because i have a biblical lens it's there's no shortcut a lot of people like they want there
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to be a shortcut it's like all the answers to all the things like a lot of times when people
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were like hey i'm struggling with something my kids on drugs i'm like man you should read the
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bible more yeah but ultimately what i'm saying is like you should get to know god more and get
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in communication with him more and get him guiding your life and doing the stuff with your life and
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you'll be able to talk to him about this whole situation with your kid on drugs oh the spouse
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has been really nasty me or cheated on me i'm like you should read the bible more because if
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you read the bible more you'll get to know god and he'll guide your life and instruct your life
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and like i don't know it's like for all the things in life it's like just know god like like all the
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issues in life they're not the issue the issue is proximity to god all of the issues of life is just
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intimacy with god okay it's my show this is my show i'll do whatever i want it's true okay all
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right um next one comes from the pesky peasant please speak to romans 13 and other passages
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calling us to submit to governmental authority i'll always submit to christ but i have a real
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problem with submitting to despicable men systems of men and the underlying powers and principalities
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puppeteering them who are responsible for spreading the debauchery and chaos in our world
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that is a direct opposition to christ you know okay that's a fair statement so let's let's
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balance the word of god real quick let's just okay i want to ask a a layer on top of this
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it's like if you don't submit to those systems despicable men underlying powers and principalities
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and such is it fair to say you're going to have a really hard go of it and is that necessarily like
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the idea that maybe god would come and pluck you out from that hard go is fighting against
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governments fighting against all of it not submitting to you know because i i feel like
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we don't submit to like the mind control of government we don't submit to like the narrative
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of governments we don't submit to um when they're forcing you to get an injection we don't submit to
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they say well we we're the world and we have a health organization that's telling you to do that
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no we don't yeah that has nothing to do with us but as far as like being a law-abiding citizen
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we do everything we can according to romans 13 right this is the one that says that like uh let
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every soul be subject unto the higher powers for there is no power but of god the powers that be
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are ordained of god like god has put governments in place i know we've broken this down in the show
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before under the context of like when he says for people to carry a sword right he said before i
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told you don't carry a sword but now i am telling you to carry a sword we're talking about how that
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like keeps order in society governments keep order in society and i'm somebody that hates overreaching
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government and i'm somebody who thinks we're taxed way way way more than we should be taxed
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But nevertheless, even that is better than anarchy.
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Like, you told a story about getting beat up in the street with a bat and knocked.
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Like, that's what you have to look forward to under anarchy, right?
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And that's one story that happened under stuff with the government.
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But, like, in that situation in the hood, that's like a lack of government there, too.
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And anytime where you have a lack of order with humans, you end up in crazy situations, man.
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So as bad as it is for an overreaching evil empire,
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like imagine how evil the empire is that Paul's writing to the Romans about.
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it's not like this was written to like a good government and now we have bad
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Like it's like governments are always going to be bad.
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but even at that God keeps that structure in place because humans that don't
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have some kind of order or infrastructure just go buck wild,
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getting beaten with bats it's like the craziest but again we balance that with acts five um
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verse 29 then peter and the other apostles answered and said we ought to obey god rather
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than men so just kind of balance it with that you there's always this balancing act in scripture
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you go to this extreme or this extreme it's a narrow yeah there's a there's a balance though
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man it's like yeah we obey god rather than man so even if they made it a law to like inject this
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thing in your body we we had to find the balance there we go okay i want to obey government but
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like my body belongs to god i'm not even allowing a government to inject the thing in me like i'm
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gonna i'm gonna stick with god i'm gonna obey god rather than men but what is that what's the
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whole render unto caesar what is caesar's uh passage about like what is taxes yeah yeah yeah
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so there's still like it's like yeah you fucking you do gotta operate within within the government
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yeah because you think jesus was saying oh yeah caesar and his uh taxation is is a is a uh very
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so don't pay caesar morally good system he's not saying that he knows how corrupt that system is
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but he's also not telling you not to pay that shit yeah he's saying you gotta do it dude it's
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yeah there's gotta be order in society or more people are gonna be hit over the head with bats
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i just kind of look at the same thing is like yeah it's like we submit to god but you do have
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to play ball with these systems these despicable men these underlying powers and principalities
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because if you don't figure out how to dance with them right because it is it's it's you have to
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maintain not being in one extreme one extreme you got to be in the world and not of the world you
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got to know how to navigate within one extreme is being part of that system and being a piece
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of shit the other yeah we're gonna go into that system steamroll you and kill you yeah we're
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gonna go into that system and reform it make it a christian system no you're not yeah you're not
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just you're in the world you're not of it those systems are going to be what they're going to be
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and you got to navigate accordingly okay i hope we answered that pexy peasant or pesky peasant uh
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cory brumley says what spiritual condition was solomon in when he died what are you poking at
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can't preach the gospel if you're dead i'd argue with that you know how many martyrs that their
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life like speaks so much dude touche yeah people who are like look at steven steven gets stoned in
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the book of acts do you know how many people have read the story of steven in his death and how much
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that has carried on much more than if he would think i know what i see what i was trying to say
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though yeah but i like but i like to bring a balance to that statement too is like no no man
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you stay true to god and if you lose your life for it that can preach true yeah okay um what
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spiritual condition was solomon in when he died food for thought i mean depending on when ecclesiastes
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was written it suggests he could have recognized his folly and repented in his later years why did
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you not read the earlier question that's asked adam and eve heaven or hell i didn't see there's
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no earlier question yet i'm reading them in the order that they're here okay well relax um
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it suggests he recognized his folly and repented in his later years or at minimum recognized his
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folly and wrote a warning, but I don't think it ever explicitly wraps up his ending. Always
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wondered about this. As a person who left the church and studied every belief structure I could
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find, desperately wanting the answers to be anything but Jesus, I can relate to the thirst
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for gnosis, but everything kept pointing me back to Christ. So yeah, what spiritual condition was
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he in and is there any room in interpretation for the idea that he saw the folly of his ways
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wrote a warning the book of ecclesiastes never seems to explicitly wrap up his ending
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i mean that's a great question slash statement i mean it's kind of a lot i don't know all i know
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is when i didn't know that solomon had fell off for like eight or ten years i read the story of
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solomon but i never kept reading and read where he fell off i just read that he was like doing rad
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stuff that god came to him in a dream he asked him for wisdom and god was like yeah that's awesome
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i'll give you that and i'm gonna give you all this other stuff what's that in probably one king's
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like three okay because ecclesiastes he's a very whiny bitch no he's a guy with no concept of
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eternity he mentions god in it he meant he mentions god in ecclesiastes yeah but he's lost
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sight of eternity and it's all the thing because over and over he's saying under the sun under the
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son yeah that's a that's a reference to the to the natural realm a lot of what he says seems to be
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like there's no point in fear the only fear that makes any sense is fear of god because it's all
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folly being rich or being poor it's all the same shit there's no eternity i mean that's this is
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the mindset of a man with there's no eternity man and there's no connection to god well is that what
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it is because he's saying like there is wisdom in fearing god he does say that yeah um but i think
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he's applying it to in this life not not not in regards to eternity yeah or else why would
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everything in that book revolves around under the sun under the sun the physical realm the
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temporary realm and so it's a guy who's just like yeah it's a little nihilistic paul even says like
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if our hope of christ is in this life only we are all men most miserable he's like the green day
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of the bible and then he's like a very angsty kind of nihilistic whiny no no he's got a long
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life dude the ecclesiastes is a wild book dude but he's got a long life dude he does a bunch of
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good and then he's i mean if you study his life out it's he it's not just the females and the
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worshiping false gods he starts off like uh i remember the first time i read it dude he starts
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going back to egypt for horses and i remember being like oh what is that okay yeah they weren't
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supposed to go back to egypt to get horses like they were very strictly commanded let's go ahead
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and read that i don't think a lot of people know about this passage but you should know about this
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passage because there's a lot in it while you look for that um yesterday i was playing the nintendo
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switch with my son and they have a a section for nintendo the original nintendo and one of the
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really early games on nintendo was solomon's keys and that's really fascinating and if you play it
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it's like oh the keys of solomon you're like collecting yeah you're collecting keys to go
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on to the next level while you're also like uh uh magically manifesting platforms to step on
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with a wand and you're avoiding demons uh while you're doing it so pretty interesting watch this
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in deuteronomy 17 look how god operates i love how god operates man when you are coming to the
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land which the lord your god gives you i'm in deuteronomy 17 14 and shall possess it and shall
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dwelled therein and shall say i will set a king over me like as all the nations that are about me
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so so they're not supposed to have a king but god but god bluntly tells them yeah yeah when you guys
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give yourself a king which which you're not supposed to do he knows he knows you're gonna do
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it yeah you shall and he said and even says why like as all the nations that are about me which
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is exactly what they do they just like everybody else does yeah they say hey all these other
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nations have a king we want a king but god was supposed to be their king they reject him they
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bring in another king that's how they get saul he says you shall in uh in any wise set him king over
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thee whom the lord thy god shall choose one from among thy brethren shall thou set king over thee
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you may not set a stranger over thee which is not thy brother but he shall not multiply horses to
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himself so he's not supposed to make himself rich okay nor cause the people to return to egypt to
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the end that he should multiply horses it specifically says this when remember solomon
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was a king yeah specifically says don't let the king do this it's interesting because he's being
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very direct about like this is the the way that you would likely make yourself rich and wealthy
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was it multiplying horses so god's very specific about like don't do that yeah yeah he's not even
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saying like don't make yourself wealthy he's like don't do the thing with the horses it's not really
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that even it's going back to egypt too right right it's like going back to your past life like if
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you've been like okay israel was saved out of egypt now you're going back we were saved out of
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the world there's all these references to egypt being a type of the world like stop like christians
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should not be continuing to go to the world for for whatever it is their game right their life
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their happiness their health like whatever it is like we have this other life we're not supposed
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to be going back to the world for what we want right it's the same thing right and so the kings
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knew this watch how the kings know this uh to the egypt he shall not multiply horses to himself nor
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cause the people to return to egypt to the end that he should multiply horses for as much as
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the lord has said unto you you shall henceforth return no more that way so what i'm sorry i'm
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just hearing it again because you're saying it's very clear what was it basically in in rudimentary
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english don't go back to egypt for the purpose of multiplying horses yeah and he's like gonna do
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that but at the end of that he says you shall henceforth return no more that way he's saying
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even in general just don't go back to egypt man you guys came out of that stop trying to go back
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to it solomon's a dipshit no no dude he's a dipshit he's being a bitch it's rough dude he's
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a bitch about it jesus said he was the wisest man jesus said there's a wiser than solomon here like
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he was the only person that was wiser than solomon was jesus sounds like a dipshit i mean i guess we
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have to say wise in finger quotes but right no but what do you mean you're saying there's not
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stuff in your life that you go back to the world for i don't know and i'm a dipshit for it so he's
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a dipshit okay i like that well i'm just saying that's how we have to look at these stories go
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god like what's the stuff i'm still going back to the world for happiness when i go back to the
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world for happiness for enjoyment for entertainment like what are these things i'm trying to go to the
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world for that's what i'm saying like we have a rough time when like church people love taylor
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swifty it's like why are you going to the world for what are you getting from taylor swifty
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happiness enjoyment whatever you're getting like yeah it's just a weird shit's a banger
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not with the swifty not so much so um that's what i always kind of look at people whenever
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they go like oh you know i i love this idea of like the occult and like you know alchemy
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and it's like okay so so are you wiser than solomon because solomon couldn't pull it off
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it fucked up everything for him right and you're gonna fit you're gonna figure it out
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you're a dipshit you're a dipshit we're not we're not wiser than solomon we're not going to be able
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to wrangle the i already see laney doing an edit of that you're a dipshit you're a dip now he will
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now he will no he was gonna anyway he was going to but i'm gonna be my face and then i'm gonna
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say something back with your face you're a dipshit all right let me read the rest of it go ahead
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please neither shall he multiply wives to himself okay he's a dipshit that his why it even says the
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why that his heart turned not away so dude you get into sexual perversion dude it's going to
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turn your heart away neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold money's
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going to turn you away from god and it shall be when he sits upon the throne of his kingdom that
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he shall write him a copy of this law in a book of that which is before the priest the levites
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no i just know him too good now now it's definitely now it's happening that won't
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be one that gets that sees daylight though but it'll be a funny one for us no i'll post it
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everywhere no you never posted that one where you're doing like this crazy eyes where you're
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like looking at the side of your face like that i know but you never posted come on can you read
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this stop okay so watch this is big in verse 18 it shall be when he sits upon the throne of his
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kingdom that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the
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priest of levice you guys know that if you were a king in israel you had to write a copy of the
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bible in that day a copy of the law copy of the first five books okay they actually had to write
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that and it shall be with him that's that's gangster imagine we did that now bro can you
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imagine how good you know the scripture oh yeah hebrews right to left too so imagine they're
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going like this they're writing right to left they're doing the thing i don't know they had
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to dip the feather in the ink right to left is dumb because you just drag your hand across the
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the ink that you just did it smears it oh good point good point left to right is and it shall
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be with him and he shall read therein all the days of his life guys this is like
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like we're referred to as kings and priests now so you could say this is applicable to us right
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we should be maybe not write a copy maybe we should at some point maybe but no matter what
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help me remember something but no matter what we should be reading there in all the days of our
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life that he why that he may learn to fear the lord his god to keep all the words of this law
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in these statutes to do them to live this you read the bible so that you live it so that you
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do it what are the five first five books is genesis exodus uh that's all i got leviticus
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numbers deuteronomy okay here's the other reason that you read it every day that his heart be not
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lifted up above his brethren so imagine he's a king he starts getting this place he's like yeah
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i'm a big shot man i'm the king dude god says no no no read the scripture every day that'll keep
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you humble which it will it'll keep you humble if you read it every day and that he turned i mean i
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guess there's some people that do read it every day and don't get humbled by it though too i guess
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i guess there's both well there are those people that like they say that the devil knows the bible
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you know what i mean like a cultist and shit that it should be humbling you as you're reading it if
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you're applying it right it should be humbling okay it should keep you from lifting yourself
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up above your brethren even if you're a king even if you're a big shot and that he turned not aside
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from the commandment to the right hand or to the left to the end that he may prolong his days in
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his kingdom he and his children in the midst of israel so you got solomon he's a king he had to
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have written this okay he he had to have written this section this section says don't go back to
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egypt don't go back to egypt for horses easy to think about yeah don't he don't multiply wives
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to yourself so he wrote all this shit he had to he had to that's what i'm saying i don't think most
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how long did solomon live i don't know he was king for 40 years right because wasn't it uh
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saw 40 years david 40 years and uh solomon 40 years and then boom the kingdom splits north and
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south and at this time they're they're living typically length lives right so what do you
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mean typically you're saying normal like like 78 yeah we're way out of the realm of the 400 year
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old yeah yeah so so yeah so long time man i mean still it's a long time and he makes the kingdom
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powerful and rad and he forgets this shit yeah dude yes that's what i'm saying just for we
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always think like oh i'm gonna get saved and just be on track with god forever i'm like i don't know
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why do we have the story of solomon i don't know crazy that's so crazy yeah because you're saying
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he would he would have written this he had to write this stuff right here that says don't go
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back to egypt to get horses he goes back to egypt to get horses he had to write this stuff says
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maybe it's just like so much stuff you gotta remember you know what i mean don't multiply
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huge amounts of money to yourself he multiplies huge amounts of money yourself don't take multiple
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wives don't have a bunch of wives he gets a bunch of wives i'm just saying dude it's a long game
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like like christian life is the long game man and if solomon wasn't built for for that type of life
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who was you you ain't okay uh it has a great answer to it good job do you think the do you
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think john the apostle wrote the book of revelation i'm yet to read it and to be honest i'm scared to
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read it because i've found the rest of the new testament so fulfilling and answering questions
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number one don't be uh don't be scared to read it we're told over and over again fear not do not be
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discouraged you know any of this so yeah don't don't uh stop picking your teeth don't do that
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so what do you think do you think john the apostle wrote the book of revelation yeah it sure seems
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that way i'm pretty sure the opening like says it like that right yeah that's my take is that
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john wrote it okay uh seven churches if you weren't picking your teeth you'd have been a
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little faster keep those things which are written in the priest spirit on the lord's day yeah i mean
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he's writing it all in the first person okay and then yeah don't be afraid of it but right but
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don't don't assume you're going to understand what's going on like i don't understand what's
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going off in the book of revelation i'm scared to read it because i found the rest of the new
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testament so fulfilling in answering questions so it's not necessarily that he's saying that
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revelation is scary because of you know the the scary things that are happening on the earth at
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the time but more so in relation to it'll taint the rest of the book i don't know the new testament
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is fulfilled uh answering a lot of questions or all the questions for him so would somehow the
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book of revelation undo that or no no it all fits dude especially those first couple chapters like
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one two and three especially where jesus is writing to the seven churches it's the it's
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the epistles of jesus to the seven churches of asia minor is really what it is okay and he's giving
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them a uh report card some would say i think chuck missler used to call it a report card but he's
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saying like hey church in this territory here's what you're doing good here's what you're doing
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bad this is why it's a funny discussion uh you guys have some friends that say that like there's
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only one denomination you can get saved through if you don't get saved through that denomination
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then you can't get saved because there's only one church it's like jesus is talking to seven
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different churches here and he's telling them yeah he's telling them here's the things you're
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doing good here's the things you're doing bad then he goes the next church totally different
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things here's the things you're doing good here's the things you're doing bad so there's clearly the
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church amen to anybody who says there's the church the body of christ but within that there's churches
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is plural like you you can't debate that there's seven churches right here that he's writing to
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and telling them different stuff you guys did this good and this bad you guys did this good
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and this bad you guys did this good and this bad you guys did this good and this bad you see what
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i'm saying yeah two of them crushed particularly hard though right yeah i think so philadelphia
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and maybe another one but dc is like really bad yeah and some people lay that out as a timeline
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some people lay that out that like that's uh that's the story of time right right and now
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we're in like the laodicean age i'm doing fair quotes if you will which i don't know because i
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because i don't know enough about it to know what happened over the last however many years it's been
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since it was written uh because who knows if our timeline hasn't been corrupted i don't know
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i really don't know and all that shit who knows dude all right all right uh the next one is
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qui-gon qui-gon gin and tonic shout out to qui-gon he says what are some stories in the bible that
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have shaped and strengthened your faith thank you brother matt with three t's wait what was the
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question damn uh what are some stories in the bible that have shaped and strengthened your
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faith i guess some of your favorite stories oh that have really been like uh impactful in your
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walk uh man i i don't know you want to think about it for a second maybe you can take down
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a note or two and and we'd come back to it i wish i would have read these yesterday well you know
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dang it you didn't want to prepare and i told you you should no no i should take some uh i don't
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know i love the parables man i feel like i've learned so much from the parables okay i love
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paul when he's on the ship and it's in the angel he sees the angel at night and he says uh the
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angel says have no fear because they're in a storm and it says they threw everything out is that
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where he's going to the island he uh he ends up getting shipwrecked on the island but they're
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trying to get to rome the thrust of his life is to get to rome okay to get the gospel to that's
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where like the whole planet he's trying to get the message to planet earth because that's the
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epicenter rome at that time okay so his goal of his life if you follow paul's life he's trying
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to get to rome and he's got to get the message out there not not to take over the roman government
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not to take over the american government nothing like that but to get to the epicenter to where
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the message can be spread but anyway he's in the boat and it says that like all hope of survival
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was lost and then an angel approaches him at night and says have no fear you're nobody on the ship's
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gonna die man sick because you're on the ship so i like that and i like to try to take that in
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account for my life i think that became a big thing to me is like say i am a loser and an idiot
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amen and uh just destroy my life that's one thing but if i screw this up for other people man
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i don't like that yeah i just don't like the idea that and you could do the opposite you could get
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to where like you handle your business in such a way that you can help all the others that are on
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your ship and that story like hits me hard every time i read it man but i also love joseph we're
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not gonna rush through this no no no i was actually gonna say look panda fly said listening
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to matt uh go through the book of daniel was life-changing for me that that was a big one
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for me as well uh and it's great and she said something earlier that i was gonna say but i knew
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you were gonna go off the rails oh she said so jesus wasn't jewish that's what she said earlier
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and i think sparrow knows bear chimed in too and said that's a great point and those are two of my
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like good buddies in the chat i know you sparrow hates jews yeah no she doesn't oh okay but they're
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just making the point that like his he's the blood of god so in that sense he's not jewish but but
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the culture he lived under that culture he lived under the law like he lived under that culture
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and i know this gets super offensive so i'm just gonna say go ahead rip the band-aid off uh like
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when the people came back to the land in 1948 they weren't making gondolas and mofongo like
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they didn't come back with puerto rican once again not puerto rican very specifically something is
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really important very specifically came back celebrating those same feasts that they were
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taught in the bible yeah to celebrate now they added some in top will say that there's the one
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you want to believe that the roth child uh created state of israel is is the real israel then that's
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on you man that's fine well god does stuff through like other evil kings all through the bible where
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they go back and build the second temple that's not under some good king that's some bad king like
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has them do it anyway all i'm saying is that like that culture they came back with that culture
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that's intriguing that's what i'm saying and that same culture as we see in the scripture i i don't
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know i don't live in israel so if they're celebrating some uh feast where they dress up
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like demons i don't know clearly that's not given us in scripture but jesus lived under the culture
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of the hebrews he lived under the culture of israel so i'm leaving that alone i'll leave that
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alone so other stories that i love we're just moving on quick other stories that i love is
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when joseph reveals himself to his brothers man that like uh that just goes hard for me man that
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just goes hard and then when he finally says he goes he goes i am joseph and like the brothers
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are in shock and the way he sets them up at the table he sets them all up to have the meal with
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them all by their age and order and so the the brother's like what the how does he right how did
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he know to set this up in this order he knows them all he's speaking through an interpreter even
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though he understands what they're saying like this whole thing is so rad dude he does the whole
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thing to drag him through it he sees judah say no man take me instead judah sacrifices himself
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like this whole thing is so rad and then he ultimately says i'm joseph and they're and it
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says it like they're in shock and they're like like they don't know what to do they don't
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understand what's happening he and then he has to say i'm joseph your brother like like they still
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don't get it he says i'm joseph they still don't get it he has to say i'm joseph your brother
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like that i don't know that goes hard when moses dies that goes hard for me too man because god
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says okay walk up the mountain and die and i always think like what if he told me walk up the
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mountain like what if i knew i had like whatever 20 minutes or whatever it takes to get up the
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mountain and I had to reflect on my life I think about that like somewhat regularly of like what
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do I want like if I had to walk up the mountain and die like what do I want to think about for
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that 20 minutes man like what would I be able to look back on with my wife my kids my family
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like like whatever my little sphere the little chunk of the planet that I was allowed to live on
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like the chunk of the planet that I came from like what impact did I have and like am I doing
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any things today that I'm going to give a shit about when that 20 minutes happens? Or am I just
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like trying to get the 401k and the money and the things and the stuff? Or am I hopefully like
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speaking into somebody's life and living in front of somebody a certain way that's going to matter
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in eternity that I'm like on the 20 minute walk? I just don't want to be on the 20 minute walk and
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be like, oh man, I could have did this. I should have did that. I should have did this. I should
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have did that. I wasted my time. I was lazy. I knew there was things I could have did, but I didn't do
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it i made other things priorities that shouldn't have been priorities really it was totally a
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priority to spend more time with my kids and talk with them but i always took it for granted that
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they were going to be there to talk to them so i was busy with other stuff and acted like they
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bothered me i want to make sure i'm never doing things like that i want to make sure on that 20
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minute walk and then especially if i'm like on my deathbed then i'm like no i'm good man i'm good
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like everything's good god would you rather have that ability to have a 20 minute would you rather
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or would you rather it just like happen you know like no i don't know i think it'd be rad to have
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20 minutes to reflect on life i think so but i want to live with that reality that there's going
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to be some moment to reflect on life man i don't want to live like oh i just live in this moment
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what's the thing i want to do right this second i don't want to live like that yeah i don't want
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to live like i'm like what's the bigger like i grow a farm because not because like that's the
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funnest thing to do this week like i'm gonna grind on the farm all day tomorrow because we got a
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little cooler weather too i would probably you know if we're being honest with more fun thing
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would be boogie boarding at the beach and like chilling at the beach right but i'm like try to
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have a more eternal mindset like going to the beach is good too i need to do that maybe i'll
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go sunday but like tomorrow i want to do a thing that's going to matter in 10 years dude i'm going
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to plant trees tomorrow they're going to be there in 10 years that maybe my kids or grandkids or
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some loved one is going to grab a piece of fruit and eat it and be like how gangster is that yeah
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they're gonna be like freaking matt's all right you know what i'm saying they're like dude this
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guy was all right man maybe 20 years 30 years from now maybe i have a great grandkid pull a fig
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off of tree i plant tomorrow and be like what was his what was his name again you're planting a fig
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tree tomorrow yeah i got multiple fig trees going in the ground and bananas and some passion fruit
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i got i got quite a bit of stuff simulac is right this guy does love fruit he loves fruit why no
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veggies uh i will at some point i just um is the ground good for potatoes out here yeah like
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every ground is good for potatoes are super resilient easy here too but just like here's
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the thing i've been grinding on this farm for six years i can walk out there and go oh cool man i
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have a food for us if i was doing vegetables it's 90 days you get your food poof it's gone
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oh imagine if i walked out there and i didn't have anything to show for grinding the last six
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year so that's the other than i had some nice vegetables to eat no i want to now i'm planting
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the stuff that's going to be in the ground and growing like i just step away from it and it's
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doing the work now that they think the amazon forest is a food forest is actually it looks like
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it looks like exactly how we do them yeah because of diversity and yeah it's like this shit would
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never just be here like this this was you know even the structure with the upper canopy the lower
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canopy smaller trees down to bushes down to like root crops down to vines all the stuff like growing
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together support species growing that as it dies it falls to the ground it's like they got giant
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brazil nuts you know the giant trees like you do love fruit huh yeah just love the idea of like you
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put something in the earth and then the earth just brings forth like you don't think that's a
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no it's dope it's dope yeah because people are like food is chick-fil-a i'm like no no no food
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is like a thing you put it in the earth like we live on a planet yeah i guess i don't you know
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maybe we argue whether it's flat or not but we live on a planet either way that's definitely
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not something that's not the way to open it you yeah it's a sliding door by the way did you uh
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did you know i used to work on a farm no what's happening they're gonna break the door what are
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they doing i have no idea did you know i used to work on a farm i don't believe it yeah yeah i used
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to work on a farm but um you put a thing in the earth and then the earth just uh takes it from
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there that was crazy it really messed you up huh i just don't understand what they're doing for the
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audience who's just listening who's trying to break in here for one who's not understanding
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it's a sliding door oh yeah you can't tell it's a slide put it put the camera on you so i can fix
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oh yeah that's very fun i like that everyone's in a while that's the perks of having a public
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uh i mean i think it's actually a fantastic a fantastic aspect of what we do here but
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any at any moment they can just start ripping the doors open and they do that they do that
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and these are the doors you grab like this and you pull them apart like that and which is very
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clearly doors and it's swinging and it's coming off the hinges whoa whoa who grows figs and
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avocado your mama i don't know who spells avocado like that but i know what you're saying
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oh that means business 420 he's in like louisiana that is coming to playing games man
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all right um let's move on to these guys we have a lot more questions dude uh my wife has no
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christian friends oh this is a bummer yeah this is a bummer my wife is in the same boat i can
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think of i can think of any way for her to oh i can't i can't i can't think of any way for her
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to meet some besides going to church which we have always avoided i was raised assemblies of god
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if you had to pick a best denomination based solely on theology gun to head what is it
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before you guys i just want to say i've gone to church with my wife in hopes to finding and
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developing some sort of community and we found him at no one so that isn't always going to be
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not my experience i'm going to say something incredibly offensive right now go ahead
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the whole friends thing is totally overrated i think so i think it is dude i think it is i know
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people get touchy about that like oh fellowship like yeah i okay no i'm the same way i mean it's
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a lot dude if you have friends then they're like you have obligations like i i kind of have my
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hands full with a wife and two kids that's why you get a job and a farm i went to go and i have
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people i love don't get me wrong i have people i love yeah like as soon as you get into where now
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i'm expected to hang out i'm just i'm not i spend a lot of time with god i don't have a lot of time
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to like hang out yeah yeah i spend a lot of time with my family uh just vibing friends i don't even
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you know like we want guys want to watch the ball game not to say i wouldn't like to watch world cup
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with some people i actually like always are you gonna watch the ufc fight on the white house
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no come on it's funny what kind of idiocracy dystopian shit is that you're gonna miss it
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yeah it's gonna be at 10 o'clock at night starting it's probably gonna finish like dude i can't do
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it bro but world cup i love dude and i like english premier league anyway fucking brown
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so i always think like i'd like to get together especially with some european people that uh that
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like soccer and get a couple pints i'm like yeah you really like soccer like that i love soccer
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dude and i have a couple drinks and watch soccer and like kind of like i think that's so exciting
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but it never happens i can never really like this is funny lady lady says i'm friends with
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two brownoids and a female cryptid who hates poor people that's about it that's literally
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me laney top and nancy are all in a production chat and we just say some shit that make each
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other laugh occasionally and that's who he's talking wait i'm not even in the friend group
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for lane i love lane you're not in you're not on x no but i feel like me and laney are tight
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like we have a strong connection tighter if you were on x actually chopping it up with us but
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you can't be bothered yeah i get it yeah that's right no i'm just a no not like that just like
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to watch everybody's like hating each other and yelling mean stuff like i just i can't do it what
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we don't oh oh that's not what happens in that we make fun of those people in the chat it's great
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no thank you idaho hermit um i don't know somebody asked if we're gonna do enough to
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america he knows he knows man i mean it's cool like dude i have people i know and love dude i
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have people that are my boys but this but as far as like hanging out friends is what i'm talking
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about i literally never talked to matt i don't care we still have a strong bond i have a strong
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ball lady no matter what like the way he pulls stuff out of story like dude i sit somehow i'm
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on like some uh tv show where you like get on the microphone you're gonna see how many people
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will do a show like pulls pieces out of it and make art well like that he likes yeah somehow
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he decides this is the thing i'm gonna pull out of it and does edit it yet dude i have a strong
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bomb with we uh there's so many times we do wait you could call me anytime bro you want to talk on
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the phone sometime i'd love that uh we do shows with all kinds of people doesn't matter how big
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or small they are in their podcasting thing when it's all done and the clips are being made they're
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like yo you guys make amazing clips i'm like that's our fucking we have a schizophrenic i hear
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it all the time dude albarino complimented the editing yeah yeah dude this whoever does your
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stuff is good i'm like dude i love this stuff man you're everybody here is gonna die that one was
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like a banger you saw that one and that's like a war scene i don't remember that one all right
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all right uh so all right let me know when laney says he wants to catch up on friends are are trash
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got it no no it's good to have people you know and love in your life but the concept of like
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hanging out with friends okay but he also said what's the best denomination gun to head
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uh you have to pick one don't say some wishy-washy shit i don't know if you can pick a
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denomination you could pick the best local church in your area and the best local church in your
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area might be baptist or it might be i like assemblies of god there was a time in the 90s
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when the church of satan was really trying to make an effort to specifically infiltrate baptist
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churches i mean it's all of them i'm no but they had an agenda i could see that dedicated
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specifically because that's the one that probably had the most pull and the most like time or
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whatever like had the most effect on society yeah i could see that okay but i like um i don't like
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going to i don't like to uh there's like this weird thing in the modern 501c3 system some of
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the people believe in the supernatural and like the gifts and stuff like those those are fun and
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then some of them don't i like the ones that do believe in like the so-called like the five-fold
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ministry apostles prophets pastors and teachers they say yeah that's still for today like i'm
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like well yeah of course that's for today so i don't like the ones who say that's not for today
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but then the ones that say that is for today and the spiritual gifts are for today then you see a
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lot of the um you see a lot of silliness in those denominations if we're being on you see a lot of
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foolishness and the you know with the weird stuff with the laying hands and the falling down or
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running around the church even though my doctrine more lines up with them uh that acting it out i
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just i i don't i don't know why everybody came to the conclusion that like you got to put on a show
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on sunday i just don't know where that came from and then they're like this nomination does a show
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like this this nomination is a show like that like i don't care like what does your life look
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like yeah that's all i care about so if i had to pick one i don't know assemblies of god is cool
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man or like pentecostal i like orthodox because they're racist but i don't know that i would want
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to i don't know i don't really care like even if i had a gun to the head i would just um i guess i
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would just pick one but they're all whatever i've been to cool baptist churches i've been to cool
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presbyterian services some of them are a little boring those are the ones that like uh fish and
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eggs maybe but i just don't like um boring stuff man all right good answer um who's hold on can
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you go back just one more somebody asked about the mexico game because that is nobody asked about
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the mexico game dude i'm going up but i'm going up on mine nobody's saying anything i don't know
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about two chats before no we need an interpreter it's right before that let's just start our own
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christian a lot seizures go up matt you're talking you're taking mexico opening game who are they
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playing i want to watch that game though because um i got a dear friend of mine now that's a mexican
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dude that i know he wants to watch that i'd like to have them over and have some uh a couple of
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pints you just said no friends you got a mexican friend i'm yeah well it's bella's it's my son-in-law's
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it's my son-in-law's brother-in-law but he's my guy dude um okay so uh nick says did david finally
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switch to sandals i do like to wear sandals but i like the ones that have sports mode where they
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they don't fall off those are great i don't like the ones that wedge in the toes flip flops that
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wedge in the toes because they hurt eventually matt uh i'm showing off your uh your new dunks
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are those dunks or those jordans i'm not gonna be able to get this angle dude yeah that's very
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skinny legs huh um by the way i got to take my son to the gym for the first time like as just got me
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those as an 11 year old and that was really cool i had him on the leg press nice you know how much
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who's leg pressing 40 120 pounds no kidding 120 pounds the purple one or the yellow one uh the
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one where you're sitting down not laying on your back oh with weights with actual you're putting
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no no that's the one where you're laying the cable what he's doing the cable purple or yellow
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uh uh yellow's in the yellow room not in the yellow room okay the purple the purple one yeah
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that's a good one yeah he's doing for for a set of 10 so he's he was doing four uh four sets for
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10 reps he did 60 then we bumped it up to 80 pounds and we bumped it up to 100 pounds and
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then for the last set of 10 reps he did 120 pounds laney's kind of orthodoxy that's why his artwork
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on a lot of his uh stuff is like that yo laney knows his shit i had no clue man but yeah well
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if you talk to him he never wants to talk to me man i don't blame him um let's see blappity
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blap blap says matt what are your thoughts on ezekiel 23 i read it recently and it was super
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graphic i was shocked ezekiel 23 where are you going you're gonna pull it up on a blue letter
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bible i could do that that's fine well oh you knocked off your thing there oh you did okay
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i'll fix it ezekiel how do you spell ezekiel easy e-k-i-e-l it's right after jeremiah what chapter
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23 i should have looked at this last night uh oh hola and oh holy bars sin and its consequences
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oh yeah they committed whoredoms against god man okay i'll bring it up on the screen
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do you want to read it do you have it or should i read it uh i don't think i'm going to have some
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big thing to say about this i don't think we're going to be okay well the word of the lord came
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again unto me saying son of man which if i know right this is going to be saying that it's um
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yeah jerusalem and samaria uh which one of them got dealt with first the other one didn't learn
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from the first one because because remember when the kingdom split like after solomon the kingdom
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splits well i guess i think he's talking about the graphic nature of it um son of man there were
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two women the daughters of one mother they committed whoredom in egypt they committed
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whoredoms in their youth there were their breast pressed damn and there they bruised the teats of
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their virginity good golly uh and the names of them were ahola the elder and aholiba her sister
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and they were mine and they bear sons and daughters thus were their names samaria is
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ahola and jerusalem is aholiba and ahola played the harlot when she was mine and she dotted or
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doted rather we're not going to read this whole thing yeah this is no way but they're they've
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gone a whoring on god it's a story to israel that they've gone a whoring on god they want
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other things other than god they want stuff we were it's funny because we're already talking
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about this like be careful of desiring the stuff of the world instead of stuff that you can get
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from god um so they go a whoring on him there's like in verse 18 says so she discovered her
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whoredoms and discovered her nakedness then my mind was alienated from her like as my mind was
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alienated from her sister so i forget if it's uh man i forget if it's judah or the rest of israel
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that goes astray first i think i can't remember does the syria does israel get taken away by
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assyria judah gets taken away from babylon by babylon and that's why judah's second so like
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judah like watched israel israel proper like the northern 10 tribes okay get taken away and didn't
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learn their lesson so that's the context of this but one of the things like yeah then my mind was
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alienated from her god saying this about them like that's what happened you become alienated
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from god as you desire those things that are not from god you become alienated so is blabbity
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blap blap talking about the graphic way that the the using like uh chicks being hosed as an
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analogy here no i think it gets a little more hardcore like in verse 22 he says behold i'll
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raise up thy lovers against thee from whom thy mind is alienated so it's like uh you want you
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want those things you want those things that don't come from god he says you got it i'll give you
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that and then all of a sudden the things in the world are really going to come for you okay so
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yeah no problem i'll set my jealousy yeah like if you get into like um they shall judge thee
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according to their judgments um verse 25 i'll set my jealousy against thee i don't see why this
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wouldn't apply to the church today the same way if the covenant people was supplied to them in that
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they and they shall deal furiously with you they shall take away your nose and your ears and thy
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remnant shall fall by the sword yeah this is where it gets ugly man yeah they shall take your sons
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and your daughters and your residue shall be devoured by the fire they shall also stir thee
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out of thy clothes and take away your fair jewels thus will i make thy lewdness to cease from thee
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and thy whoredom brought from the land of egypt so that you shall not lift up your eyes unto them
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nor remember egypt anymore they've gone to whoring on god for the things of egypt and yeah dude this
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is this gets ugly man gone a whoring it's like going fishing but different it's all these
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applications are always in regards to a husband and wife relationship our relationship with god
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is that intimate it's that intimate and so like when you go away from god to love the world to
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love satan and his realm it's it's like he's calling it no different than having an affair
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yeah okay yeah and he talks raw he doesn't sugarcoat he says yeah man they're gonna be
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killed by the sword they're gonna be killed with fire god bless you thank you thank you okay
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all right very cool um i will i will do these things under you because you have gone a whoring
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after the heathen and because you are polluted with their idols you walk in the way of your
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sister therefore will i give her cup under your hand like you just he's keep saying you didn't
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learn from this example so imagine like that to the church now like we've been given the whole
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story of israel as examples if we don't learn today oh yeah and we still go a whoring on god
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as the church today it's like what harsh judgment store for you yeah um panda fly panda fly says
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would you be able to get sean from kingdom and context on as a guest i'd love for him to chat
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with you about his quote uncommon knowledge series where he breaks down the structure of our world
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and the different layers of heaven and god's creation that would be cool through scripture
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thanks for everything you do yeah we could set that up that would be cool that'd be dope yeah i
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don't know anything about that series but i know that's like a good dude like i don't yeah sean is
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awesome i talked to him we were on the show for i don't know this hour and a half or something but
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the entire time i was like this is a good hearted man yeah like this is a good man yeah i don't know
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i don't know everything that he teaches or everything that he does i'm like this is a good
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dude yeah he his um ability to despite his his product is very like cleaned and buttoned up
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and for all intents and purposes hours should sort of clash but it never because he's a good
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man it just never seems to slow him down it never acts as a stumbling block for him he's just like
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yeah these guys well yeah that's like if you feel like hey i'm just dealing in truth i'm dealing
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with reality there's nobody that i would not deal with yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so um yeah we'll
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look into that panda i'm pretty sure we can make that happen uh tom just tom tom says if you have
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trouble grasping or you question certain concepts or beliefs that are like the trinity will you
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receive salvation thoughts on this i left verses below one samuel 16 7 you pull them up well he
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actually has it here it says for the lord does not see as man sees for man looks at the outward
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appearance but the lord looks at the heart and the heart and he goes on to say tom says god doesn't
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judge what people say or how they appear uh he judges the secrets of men the counsels of the
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heart and the motives behind their actions romans 2 16 first corinthians 4 5 uh so i guess it's
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particularly about the trinity and it's bearing on your salvation it's just saying do you have
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to believe in the trinity to be saved if you have trouble grasping or you question no no no there's
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no there's no thing like if you have trouble understanding a thing god's like fuck you dog
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yeah there's no intelligence test to get into heaven it's not like hey man if you have a lower
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which that doesn't even mean you could be at the highest intelligence and not be able to articulate
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the godhead sure it's not called the trinity in the bible it's called the godhead but like yeah
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i just think what what the bible does say about the godhead is that it's one being that's made
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of three persons. That's what it says. That's how the Bible explains the Godhead. People try
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different ways to explain that or whatever, but plainly what it says is that the Godhead is one
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being, the God being that's made of three persons. No wonder we struggle with that. All we know is a
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human being is one person. You're a human being. You're one person. I'm a human being. I'm one
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person. If there was an angel in the room, that's an angelic being. It's one person. Somehow the
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god being is three persons so like i'm not ragging anybody who can't like come to terms with that or
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doesn't like that or whatever but there's an interesting thing there there is an interesting
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tying into salvation it's interesting is in romans 10 9 it says we'll start in verse 8 it says but
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what sayeth it the word is nigh thee even in your mouth and in your heart that is the word of faith
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which we preach that if you shall confess with your mouth the lord jesus and shall believe in
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your heart that God hath raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. So there is this weird
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connection between understanding the Godhead being more than one person and salvation. I'll
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read it again. Shall believe in your heart that God hath raised him from the dead, you shall be
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saved. So you must confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and shall believe in your heart that
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God hath raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. So you have to believe that God raised
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jesus from the dead so in that sense there is a interesting connection between understanding
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that there's more than one it's one and it's more than one right so we struggle with anything like
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that if something's one and more than one which is interesting about the word elohim because like l
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is a singular for god and then the i am on the end of elohim is plural so it's singular and plural
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elohim and when referring to god uh well it's interesting because even a human being is
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you know we're we're made up of spirit soul and body right right there's there's a trinity aspect
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there there are three elements that go into making a human being but it's still one human being right
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right right right made up of three whatever you want to call that so i so i don't know man i think
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if you're just saying i can't grasp the reality of the godhead like i'd say okay i got it but it's
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interesting that that passage says you must believe in your heart that god raised jesus from the dead
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right as as if jesus didn't raise himself right so i don't know it's something to chew on all right
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um thank you tom not to scale says any thoughts on excommunication matthew 18 15 through 17 just
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like when top is on excommunicating and yelling at people and saying the meanest stuff i don't like
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it dude excommunication is like a dumpster fire bro it's like yeah even to go on there i just see
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a little bit of comments on youtube and i'm like oh who wants to do that dude and x is like that
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times a million well what about matthew 18 15 through talks about x x communication back then
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apparently and you know what is matthew 18 bro let's find out you know here i'll see if i can
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pull it up i mean i don't know if it matters here but uh you know what's the excommunication passage
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i'll pull one up in a minute what's that matthew what did i say 18 what 18 15 through 17 moreover
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if your brother shall trespass against thee go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone
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if he shall hear thee thou has i already know where this is going this is an excommunication
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um all right i don't even know what the word excommunication means other than you're kicked
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out of the church that's what i thought but if the but if the church is god's body it's not really
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are a call right right i mean there is an intriguing passage where jesus tells the apostles
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that like uh what you bind on earth will be bound in heaven what you loose on earth will be loosed
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in heaven so there's an interesting there's some i don't know but if he will not hear thee then
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take with you one or two more that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be
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established and if he shall neglect to hear them tell it unto the church but if he neglect to hear
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the church let him be unto you as a heathen man and a publican yeah like if you're trying to
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communicate to a guy is wrong and he won't hear it they say okay get him out but this is no different
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than when paul said like get the guy get the guy who's boning his dad's wife get him out of the
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corinthian church i think it's 1 corinthians 5 so we so there has precedence for saying don't let
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somebody be in your midst and i and i think the context is it's a contagion it's contagious man
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like sin is contagious and so if you if you allow it in the church which we don't we have no grid
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for this concept today because in the 501c3 everybody is a potential donor so everybody's
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comes in doesn't matter how they're living keep them there keep them paying but in the true church
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is probably why they kept it small yeah was to make sure it was a pure church make sure it was
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a good church make sure it was a real church not to say there wasn't a place for outreach
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and for being outside of that pure inner circle that was a true holy church right not to say
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there's not a precedence to reach those people who are still living in sin but to say don't let that
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sin become normalized and spread within because it will spread right it'll spread if you bring
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somebody in here with the flu you don't say oh yeah let them just mix in with the flu you say
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oh no we love this person but don't just mix in here if you got the flu there's actually some
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study that show like you know in the case of problem students if you take one from like let's
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say a lower education class and you put them into a an excelling group that you would think that
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group would help that individual you know come up and in fact it's always the opposite that one
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individual will will bring down the yo i see that in the coffee shop dude you get one sloppy person
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everybody will be sloppy yeah you get one lazy person who likes to stand around play on their
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phone everybody will stand around play on their phone you get one person that doesn't close right
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one bad fruit spoils the whole bunch yeah you got to keep it you got to keep an eye on things
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all right verily i say unto you whatsoever you yeah this is the passage where it does say that
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whatsoever i verily i say unto you whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and
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whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven again i say unto you that if
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two or two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask it shall be done for
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them of my father which is in heaven because where two or three are gathered together in my name
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there am i in the midst that's why there's a big movement today to be like oh we're two or three
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you're gathering in the midst that's only in regards to uh church discipline because that's
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the context of this passage is church discipline okay but i'm like yeah that's the context of the
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passage but nevertheless that statement stands right like that statement stands it'd be the
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equivalent of me saying like um uh those are really nice shoes and like i saw you in here
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and i say oh man those are really nice shoes but then i'm like hey man i just saw the raven at the
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grocery store had really nice shoes like no no no that wasn't the context the context was in the
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studio it was good shoes like okay but the statement still stands those are really cool shoes
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you see what i'm saying like this statement still stands where two or three are gathered i'm in the
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midst of them the context is um church discipline and yeah like i said there's a parallel passage
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in one corinthians five where he says the guy that's boning his dad's wife he cannot be in the
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church like you have to get that out but as far as like excommunicated in the sense of like
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losing salvation it's not that's we don't have any say in that yeah so is that the same thing
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it's like you know if you're kicked out of the church because you're doing all this terrifying
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shit and like you do believe in your heart and confess with your mouth but then you're thrown
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out of the church because you're not living a life that's reflective of those beliefs there's
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no human that has that makes that call right just thank god thank god because one of the other
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questions that you wouldn't read was adam and eve heaven or hell that's actually the last question
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you sandbagging son of a gun we're not we're not there yet um okay so is that me vibrating like
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that well anyway there's a uh there's a passage where is it man it's moses i wonder if it's like
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exodus 32 it's somewhere in there where moses excommunicates the church dude like there's like
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if you hear these stories about uh an individual being excommunicated from the church like moses
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excommunicates the whole system and goes out and lives outside the camp right which i think
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is intriguing um all right so wait are you gonna you're looking no no go ahead okay so owl lauren
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has a question here is that a boy or a girl uh owl is a girl who raises beagles hold on hold on
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let me sit let me see right here okay when the people heard these evil tidings they mourned
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um this is this is exodus 33 uh for the lord had said unto moses stay say unto the children of
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Israel, you are a stiff neck people. I will come into the midst of you in a moment and consume
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you. Therefore, now put off your ornaments from you that I may know what to do unto you.
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That sounds crazy. Hold on. Cause that sounds like, yo, you're all a bunch of retards and I
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will run up in there and smack the shit out of you. Like that's what that sounds like. See,
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that's crazy. Cause people go on the whole, like, Oh, is it, is it, Oh, you're a Christian and you
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talked this way. Moses just said like, yo, you backwards retarded. I'll run up in there and
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slap the shit out of you. Is that not what he said? No, the Lord said it. Oh, the Lord said,
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not even just moses so so god himself is saying yo you backward the lord is telling moses go tell
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them i said this i'll run up in there and slap the shit out of you god's raw god speaks very
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plain man like i think that was the question earlier about ezekiel 23 or whatever passage
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it was like oh hey this is raw yeah that's how god talks i like that because it's like it feels
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like god's got around the bush but that's why it's wild that the modern system has been like
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oh just say sweet things they're like it's not how god acts somebody's face i don't know where
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you guys got that from what you're gonna do what i don't know where you guys got that from that's
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not how god talks that's crazy oh everybody just say sweet things oh rock your shit right now i'll
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come in the midst of you in a moment and consume you i'm about to tell somebody that bro i'll come
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in the midst of you in a moment and consume you and the children of israel stripped themselves
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of their ornaments by mount horeb i will rock your shit and moses took the tabernacle and pitched it
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without the camp far off from the camp and called it the tabernacle of the congregation and it
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came to pass that everyone which sought the lord went out into the tabernacle of the congregation
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which was without the camp moses excommunicates the church okay like like it's one thing for the
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church to excommunicate moses moses says dude i'm taking the tabernacle i'm going outside the camp
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taking my ball and going enough of this stuff inside your guy's system i'm out here with god
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if you want to come meet with god you can come out of that system and see him that's an intriguing
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thing that goes down in exodus 33 i will be among thee and i will slap one hour and 45 minutes we
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got more shit to go through bro stop come on um owl lauren says do you think it's possible the
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saints quote saints just chose to continue paying attention to us on earth after their meat suit
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died could they actually be praying in agreement with us like backing up our prayer uh two or more
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gathered etc but just for the stuff that they're interested in on earth i have a good believer
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buddy whose family has always called on prayers of certain saints for specific things. Miraculous
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help often arrived, and after picking her brain, can't find any way their prayers backfired.
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Okay, that's an interesting question. So I guess we're steel-manning the saints.
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Well, right away you think of this passage in Hebrews 12,
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Wherefore, seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses,
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let us lay aside every weight in the sin which does so easily beset us, and let us run with
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patience the race that is set before us so when he says wherefore at the beginning of 12 hebrews
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12 starting in verse 1 he's talking about everything that came before that which is hebrews chapter 11
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which is referred to as like the um hall of faith it's referred to okay people it tells all these
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stories of people who lived and died in faith and then it says wherefore seeing we're compassed
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about was so great a cloud of witnesses so so there's context for like those who have come
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before us cloud it's a cloud of witnesses man that's watching
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That in no way, shape, or form says now start communicating with them.
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And they will be amongst you in a moment and consume you.
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Now, I don't know anywhere where the Bible is telling you,
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start communicating with them who have come before us.
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But if the statement is that, like, they're watching
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and they're potentially praying for us, yeah, maybe.
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like angels are doing stuff too but that doesn't mean we talk to angels and tell angels like pray
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to angels right they're doing we know that's not to say like we know that angels are active what
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what are these guys from hebrews 11 who are still alive they've died on the earth but they're alive
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in in another realm i don't know what they're doing but i'm not told anywhere to be communicating
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with them but they could hypothetically be independently pulling for you because
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you know just like angels angels showed up to daniel and said oh man greatly beloved that's
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what the angel says to daniel like you like bro crush we've been watching from the unseen realm
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we like you bro okay sure so of course they could be doing that but don't conflate that with
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communicating with them now all right which doesn't mean that there's not some form of i'm
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doing finger quotes now communication when you're reading the writings of obviously the bible because
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the author is uh the holy spirit but even stuff that's outside the bible where there's just g
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campbell morgan wrote a thing 100 years ago and somehow you are having this fellowship with
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someone because they've because they've put their life on paper and so in a certain way you can't
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fellowship with their heart and their spirit and kind of know them in that sense okay that but i'm
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not but i'm never praying to g camel morgan because of that like it's not i'm not communicating with
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g camel morgan in that sense all right well you don't have to have an attitude about it uh cho
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brown says what's your take on scofield i got granddaddy's bible that daddy ran in their burning
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house and saved along with all his sermons that's a great story dude cho brown's grandpa's house was
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on fire he ran back in and saved all the stuff shout out to cho brown shout out to all the browns
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yeah like he had a uh like he had all this stuff in a chest or a dresser drawer or whatever
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what do you think cho is short for short for it's uh chobadiah no it's chris and then maybe the
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middle name starts with an h i like chobadiah chobadiah brown told me what it was i forget man
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never read any of this of Schofield's take so so what is your take on Schofield I don't I've never
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read a Schofield Bible I don't know I know there's like beef over it today it's just an and I'm sure
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that there's people who have never read the Schofield Bible that can argue till they die
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that it's evil or that it's good because that's like popular today to like hate the Schofield
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Bible I forget what the context is but I'm like guys guys it's a commentary it's some dude writing
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a commentary on the bible it is definitely like people i'm sure there's a bunch of stuff in there
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i agree with i'm sure there's a bunch of stuff in there i don't agree with like there's no way if
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you wrote a commentary on the whole bible i'd read and go yeah man i'm raven nailed it on everything
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i see everything the same way raven sees it right no way yeah he i don't know what takes on israel
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and things like that but um ultimately we did an episode on it i don't fucking remember any of it
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but ed mabry was like he kind of made it seem like yeah it's like a nothing burger like you
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don't have to look at this thing and think i don't know dude that but that's what that's what
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i'm saying dude anybody who starts getting in these arguments they're being used man like if
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you're somebody who hasn't read the bible from genesis to revelation and you're arguing over
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the scofield bible you lose period i don't care which side you're on you already lose hot take
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no it's just people don't read from genesis to revelation they want to like shortcuts they want
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and they heard somebody cool on the internet saying the scofield bible is bad so now let's
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scoville bible's bad which i don't know maybe it's bad i have no clue i just kind of don't care
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because i'm not a big uh not a bitch i'm not a big scofield guy i'm not a big um i mean i guess
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i'm a commentary guy but there's a lot of commentaries i'll read for the first couple
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minutes i'm like okay this is a waste of the time it's got somebody's got to hit hard for commentary
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but is that what they hate it for because it says israel is good i'm not sure what it says
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about it we did a whole episode on it and i i kind of like understood for about a half a day
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and then i forgot it all was kind of like it yeah i don't know i don't know well i guess there must
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have been a time period where people just read commentary by like i would recommend getting a
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bible with no commentary that's my recommendation don't get a bible with notes in it right just get
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a bible or don't read the notes uh okay shout out to chobadiah for that one uh sparrow we have we
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have four more after this so it's it's we're about to hit the two hour mark we have four more
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questions sparrow uh says see hold on hold on i think scofield changed the popular understanding
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and meaning of a lot of things like i don't even know what that means like that's why you have to
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read a bible and you decide the understanding and meaning of things it's dispensational rapture
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there's a lot of good people that are pre-trip rapture i'm not any of the stuff i just want to
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be ready at all times so but there's a ton of good people that are pre-trip rapture man for me it
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seems like the problem with pre-trip okay rapture well there's the problem thus creating soft
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christians maybe but then we're assuming motive but that's the individuals but i've seen great
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men of god go scripture by scripture to prove pre-trib rapture yeah i've seen plenty of other
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guys prove post mabry's laid out post-trib rapture yeah he's laid out the argument for pre-trib and
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i guess the problem really comes in when you're banking on pre-trib because you don't want to
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suffer i don't know but then but then you're assuming motive right if a guy's going scripture
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by scripture then you can't assume his motive is that he just wants to get out of here before the
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before the tribulation i don't want to get out of here before the tribulation but there could be a
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pre-trib rapture i don't know why are you mad about it well it's just a wild thing the way people get
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into this thing and they're like yeah scoffield pre-trib it's like i don't know i just feel like
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people have been i don't want to say brainwashed but they've been like um i don't even know what
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the word is maybe brainwash is the closest word i can think of to just like think a certain way
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it's like yo you just go read the bible if you're and if you're wise enough to read through the
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bible and put together enough passages to prove that a preacher of rapture isn't real then god
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bless you bro but that's a lot of time dude you would have to put a ton of time into that
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to be able to do that and just know that like great men of god have proved beyond the shadow
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of a doubt scripture by scripture a pre-trib rapture and other great men of god have proved
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beyond the shadow of a doubt a post-trib rapture right right right prove that first guy totally
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wrong and then a third guy then a third guy has totally come along and proven it's neither a
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pre-trib or a post-trib and those two are both idiots yeah so like you can make it say whatever
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you want that's what i just i don't like to assume motive that if somebody you know is pre-trib
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rapture it's because they're soft christians i don't want to assume that ed ed came on the show
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pretty early and he steel man all three and he's like look if you if you read it the right way you
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will find uh compelling arguments for uh pre mid and post tribulation raptures sure so you know
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and well some people think israel is raptured mid-trip god bless them israel i mean or or hold
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on i think some people think there's a pre-trip rapture of the church then there's a mid-trip
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rapture of people who didn't go the first time but figured it out somewhere in the middle of it
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right and then maybe israel is raptured at the i don't know i don't know i honestly that's how
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much i don't really i don't want to say i don't care but like the main context for me is like be
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ready at all times be ready there you go because if i got raptured right now and i knew there was
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people on planet earth that i hadn't like spoken to and i should have spoken to that would be a
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terrible thing we actually came so i so as i'm saying people like assume motive they say oh
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preacher of rapture makes you a soft christian i don't know i could see where preacher of rapture
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makes you a more serious christian you're saying dude if i could get taken at any time i'd better
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be preaching the gospel every minute dude because i'm gonna be gone i'm not gonna be able to say
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things to my loved ones if i'm gone simulacra says you guys should dive into schofield it's
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very relevant i we like i said we've done an episode or two on it i have no interest in
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revisiting it yeah yeah it just wasn't really that interesting to me my opinion is probably
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it's not that good of a commentary i don't know but i feel like g camel morgan would write a way
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well maybe you should do it it would be interesting to see your opinion on it um and we also came to
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the conclusion that there is a pre-trip rapture that was you know what our research you can
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absolutely get that but it's for uh down syndrome people okay because god has to remove them so that
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they don't suffer uh the tribulation so wait so laney is like hardcore bible reader and like
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septuagint bro laney knows his shit and and uh but he doesn't like to do like you know he doesn't
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want to do anything like public or whatever i'm like dude fucking lady would crush yeah i just
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think people the main thing if you say the word scofield i'm just saying read the bible from
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genesis to revelation as soon as you're done with that read the bible from genesis to revelation
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again and as soon as you're done with that read the bible from genesis to revelation again
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i just don't think you're gonna care that scofield said this or that will be among you in an instant
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and uh what the fuck was it and i will smite the i forgot how it goes okay so here let's go on uh
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sparrow says hebrews 8 13 please hebrews 8 13 where we're in 11 so that's good we're close
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hebrews 8 13 please and that he sayeth the new covenant he hath made the first old now that
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which decays and wax old is ready to vanish away i don't know i know a little bit of the
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conversation that was happening on the nds bible study on discord was this idea of like
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the old covenant and the old i guess the old promises were fulfilled and then now that that's
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done these this people group has been used to get to this point and now this new covenant comes
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forth through christ um and i guess i don't know if this is a if this is an extension of what
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sparrows asking about but there was a discussion in that in that bible study about like there are
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those who say and this wasn't people in the bible study but they were talking about how there are
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those who say that god didn't fulfill his promises and that he just scrapped it and went new covenant
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but it's like no it looks like all the promises were kept and that chapter was closed and now
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from it springs forth the new testament and and the the gospel of christ and so um i guess maybe
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that's the context in which he's asking can you pull up blue letter bible maybe we'll just we'll
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just read it in the nlt to make it because what is it because go to hebrews 8 and then we'll read
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it not just verse 13 but maybe a little bit before that okay we'll call it verse 10 i mean i guess
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we could start in one uh boom because sometimes in the nlt it just makes like super easy to
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understand in the nlt i don't know what it's in right now it's in the kgv nlt okie dokie hebrews
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one eight one right there you want that big screen here and now of the oh you got nlt yet
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now of the things that you have spoken this is the sum we have such a high priest who is set on
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the right hand of the throne of the majesty in the heavens a minister of the sanctuary and of
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the true tabernacle which the lord pitched and not man so he's kind of already making reference to
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like did you click in nlt did you hit the arrow right next to it i'm sorry right next to nlt yeah
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that didn't feel like it okay come on rebecca one he's saying like look this always here here's the
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main point to the tabernacle uh there there he ministers in the heavenly tabernacle the true
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place of worship that was built by the lord and not by human hands so all that stuff in israel
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they were told they were commanded to build this tabernacle but it was always a type of the
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tabernacle in heaven i mean god even says maybe it's even in this passage where he says uh build
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this according to what i showed you yeah we talked about in an episode that it was like it was a
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replica of the firmament and where god sits above the firmament and and it is his heaven yeah i mean
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it calls it heaven but the firmament is his like his footstool or something like that and yeah yeah
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and so the tabernacle was like a replica of it since every high priest is required to offer
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gifts and sacrifices our high priest must make an offering too if he were here on earth he would not
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even be a priest since there already are priests who offer the gifts required by the law they serve
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in a system of worship that is only a copy a shadow of the real one in heaven for when moses
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was getting ready to build the tabernacle god gave him this warning be sure that you make everything
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according to the pattern i've shown you here on the mountain okay so moses goes in the mountain
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for 40 days i've said before i don't think that god like rolled out schematics and a plan and said
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all right here's the blueprints i think he took him into heaven and showed him the tabernacle in
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heaven and then he says he comes back and says okay build it according to what i showed you in
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the Mount because Moses has gone 40 days. Yeah. Doesn't eat or drink. He just vanishes in the
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cloud. But now Jesus, our high priest has been given a ministry that is far superior to the
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old priesthood for he is the one who mediates for us a far better covenant with God based on
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better promises. If the first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no need for a
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second covenant to replace it. That's so what do you do with that statement? If the first covenant
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had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. So is the idea here
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that it was faultless on purpose i mean it was it had fault on purpose well and in the roman letter
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it says that the fault was us it was that we couldn't like it said that the law was good but
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the fault was with us okay like that we couldn't fulfill we could never adhere to which which
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really ultimately you could say is the point of the law is to show you that you can't do yeah you
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can't that's the whole point you ain't built like that it's a teacher it's a school master to bring
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you to christ and why because it shows you you can't live like this yeah you can't live like
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this like here's all the rules uh you know plot so you could never actually do it you could never
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say we didn't need christ right you could never say yeah you'd always be able to look at the law
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and go dude i never was able to live like that okay but when god found fault with the people
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yeah i think it's saying here too with the people not the law he said the day is coming says the
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lord when i will make a new covenant with the people of israel and judah this covenant will
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not be like the one i made with their ancestors when i took them by the hand and led them out
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of the land of egypt they did not remain faithful to my covenant so i turned my back on them
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says the Lord. But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day,
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says the Lord. I'll put my laws in their minds and I will write them on their hearts. I will be
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their God and they will be my people. I think that's the Holy Spirit is what he's saying,
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right? He's saying like, there's coming a day where the law will be over. The old covenant,
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the old law will be over, but the new law will be God inside you, giving you the ability
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to obey him as opposed to obeying him in your flesh. That's interesting. So do you think for
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just for a moment like this idea of like people attributing it to your
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consciousness there's this voice inside you that tells you when you're doing
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something that's definitively wrong conscience is had by non-christians too
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though okay okay good point that's a wild because
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that's a wild topic and people get touchy about that topic too you'd be
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surprised in certain circles but like man has a conscience i wonder if well
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john 1 9 says jesus christ is the light that lights every man that comes into
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the world i could see where what that's saying is
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conscience like like jesus christ is the light that lights every man that comes in the world
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not just so is there hypothetically born again people every man that comes into the world so
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there was hypothetically a time where people didn't have that no no i think every man has
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always had a conscience okay okay he's the light that lights every man that comes into the world
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no he's always existed not that's not just saying for the last 2 000 years okay jesus has always
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existed right because he was the word and okay so here let's go here and they will not
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oh and they will not need to teach their neighbors nor will they need to teach their
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relatives saying you should know the lord for everyone from the least to the greatest will
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know me already and i will forgive their wickedness and i will never again remember
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their sins and here's the here's what she's getting at when god speaks of a new covenant
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it means he has made the first one obsolete it is now out of date and will soon disappear
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okay i think it's just cut and dry just saying that like yeah that like we did a whole study
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on that we did like three weeks on unfortunately but it's just the chapter five and sermon on the
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mount has like why is it super zoomed in i don't think anybody likes that nobody else can see that
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but you okay um i'm gonna keep it that way it's really distracting for you well it's a little much
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okay but um i got a little sidetracked by your gigantic head on the screen yeah i just think it
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um it's just saying that that old covenant came to an end thank god yeah thank god man that now
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we're under this new covenant that's that's god in us it's like god being like here's the standard
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here's what you have to do and then us struggling to do it for thousands of years hot twist can't do
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it can't do it dummy but it was all nobody nobody was ever saved by obedience to the law they're
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saved by grace through faith right looking forward to the messiah all right you're not gonna be rude
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about it um okay so no i don't think the church replaced the jews i can see i can see what you're
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saying by reading that passage i think that uh israel is still a very specific nation on planet
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earth just like mexico is a very specific nation on planet that has nothing to do with salvation
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right right but we just lose track of like what this story is israel is the story of a nation
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so think of mexico think of canada think of uruguay think of you know france like there's
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a nation it's a very specific nation from abraham god specifically pulled some dude abraham out of
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ur of the chaldees right macedon not macedonia what was the ancient mesopotamia right pulls
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him from there ur of the chaldees specifically takes him makes promises to him makes a very
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specific lineage through him not just from abraham because from abraham comes ishmael comes esau they
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end up joining together as well but god ends up referring to himself as the god of israel isaac
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and Jacob. He has a very specific territory that he takes them into and he gives them the title
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deed to that land. He gives that nation the title deed to that land. They go whoring on them,
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right? As time goes on. And he has Assyria comes in and takes out Israel, I think. And then Babylon
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comes in and takes out Judah. Okay. And then we have all these stories of them making their way
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back to the land under bad people like there's bad people that god still uh gives them the
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authority to send israel back to the land to rebuild the temple what's referred to as the
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second temple you know like michael heiser talks about like second temple literature or whatever
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there's you know the second temple is when they went back and built the temple but an evil king
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of another nation had them do that so in that day you could have went on twitter and said what that's
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evil king that sent israel back there to rebuild the temple this is a no look what they're doing
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yeah i know i'm just saying behind that was god behind that was god i got you i got it was an
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evil guy who brought israel back to the land but behind that was god he said he was going to do it
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then this this wild thing is he starts a nation and says instead of there being lowercase g gods
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over this nation like there is over all the other nations i'm going to be the god over this nation
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that's a wild ass thing right that's a wild ass thing now i guess the debate today is that um
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that nation is no longer relevant or um that nation is no longer i guess that the relevant
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would be to what relevant to what right and it's it's just that they're a nation it's just that
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he has a specific destiny for that nation right as you study out the scripture and it's that
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everybody's going to turn on them ultimately that's going to happen yeah that's part of it
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there's a i mean there's a lot to it but i don't want to get into that because it sends people off
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the rails it's another one of the things because there's a lot of people who are like specialists
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on israel that haven't read genesis to revelation man there's like same thing they're a specialist
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on scofield but they haven't read genesis to revelation i just want you to know that i think
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if you're in these echo chambers today it's dangerous if you haven't read from genesis to
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revelation that's all i'm saying i'm not saying that anybody else is wrong if they have a different
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take or have a whatever all right you know what i mean it's okay i'm just saying be careful diving
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headfirst into these conversations without having a good understanding of what the Bible is saying.
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All right. Well, I just want you to know that I do see the checks that come from Mossad in the mail
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and they show up often. I don't want to say biweekly, but they do show up every two weeks.
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And I guess that might be the word for that. And I've seen the amounts.
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Stop it. Stop it. There's an interesting passage that says that like blindness in Israel has
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happened uh in part for a season until the fullness of the gentiles so that's what i'm saying is like
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there still is something to happen with israel exactly what that is and if that means they're
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good nobody's saying that nobody's saying that we're just saying like there is this specific
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destiny and they play a specific role well i was talking about this in the bible study that it's
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an interesting idea that you have you know uh all these people will come from abraham's line like
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he's going to have so many descendants and there's going to be so many nations that spring forth from
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his line and the world's gonna be blessed to it and it's like you have a people then that are aware
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of that prophecy and are like plagued by special boy syndrome and even after yeah well that's the
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story of israel is they they took it like oh we're the covenant people we're better than you and they
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probably and the whole story of the old testament is that they were wrong for that right and they
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they definitely didn't know that it would be one dude like one dude right right christ was gonna
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be that was all gonna funnel down that's what the galatian letter says it's seed singular not
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seeds plural right speaking of christ even after christ comes of course built within them genetically
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probably almost like picked for that like abraham was picked because he was a real ass dude so they
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have like this tenacity built into them and they have this tribal you know aspect built into them
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there's all this generational trauma that's built into them so like yeah the the special boy
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generational trauma syndrome wasn't going to stop after christ came they were going to keep doing
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that there was no way you're you're not going to you've selectively but that was yeah it was
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spread into them by the law like the purpose of the law was to make them separate the same way
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the church is separate today there was it was built into the law to make them separate so that
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the way they are served a function but it doesn't go away after the function has been fulfilled
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yeah i don't know it's it's same thing like trying to explain the godhead trying to explain salvation
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i never i never thought the israel thing was super confusing until i got in the podcast world
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whatever i got here because it's like it's like this crazy thing but it's like i don't know to
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assume whether they're good or bad is like not the right way to approach it they're just fucking
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right they have a unique role they have a different role than mexico it's a land it's a people it's a
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belief system like a religion never inherited yet like the land that was given to them they still
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have never inherited yeah who knows if they go for all of the land that they were given
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But again, I'm just saying, like, I don't know.
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I think it's a good idea before people go head diving, just head first into this thing
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and the shallow end of the pool, just hold on and read the whole Bible.
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And I'm not even saying like all this stuff top says to me, like whatever me and top talk
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I'm like, top, I don't disagree with anything you're saying, but it's like the second that
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word comes up, it really tricks Barrow hates the Jews.
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well no it's it is i understand it's confusing you know nature because if you're like well who
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are the mexicans you know okay well i mean you pretty much trace a genetic line back to the early
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tribes of mexico and be with the maya whatever um but as soon as you ask that question about the
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jews it's like well you had to think about a displaced people you have to think about a genetic
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lineage you have to think about a religious decision okay if they were kicked out of the land
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for 1900 years how did how does anybody still have the identity of jewish yeah like i said
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before like like you know how trump says we're going to take over canada they're going to be
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the 51st state and it's like yeah 100 200 years i mean any canadians and you have two views of
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thought on that now they're like yeah exactly that proves the rothschilds just paid people
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to come back and act like the jews yeah but the canadians weren't the selected people of god but
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they had culture they had they had the jewish culture yeah that the um who's the rothschild
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set that up yeah okay god has used like evil people to fulfill his will in the earth before
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um and so another interesting thing about that is like that it's prophesied ahead of time there's
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these prophecies that i'll bring you back to the land there's no prophecies about mexico from the
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four corners of the earth not not just uh from babylon not just from assyria but specifically
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from the four corners of the earth so all i'm saying is it's intriguing dude it's an intriguing
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conversation what does there mean stuff in the chat no no we we have two more questions uh so
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we're through you got it whatever you want 2.5 more questions uh m says uh interested in matt's
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thoughts on childbirth eve's curse after the fall possible translations of genesis 3 16 i've always
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thought it didn't make sense for children to be gifts from god but have to enter the world through
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pain through a painful experience for the mother p.s i'm eight months pregnant for the first time
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and i was just gonna ask if this chick's had babies because jessica explained this to me
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she's like it's the craziest thing and you would never you could never experience the feeling of
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joy when they put the baby in your hands unless you just went through what you went through the
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pain and suffering you just went through and the birth bangs like all all of that makes it so
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special when you have a baby just there yeah so i mean like that's just the fallen realm dude i
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guess if adam and eve never sinned and like we don't nothing has to be hard everything can just
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be living perfect but in the fallen realm dude some of the rough hard things that we go through
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ends up being the most beautiful and wonderful things man when you get to the other side
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and like that baby is so much more special because of what you just went through coming out your
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vagina it was all small before now you got a big old vagina that's a that's crazy bro that whole
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process is crazy what's 316 though vagina under the woman he said greatly multiply by sorrow and
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thy conception and sorrow you shall bring forth children your desire shall be to your husband and
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he shall rule over you yeah this is just what happened in the fallen realm man amen
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gotta rule over these women and their vaginas stop it man all right
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next question guambat b blapping says what's the star rating system
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i have no clue what you know what is that referencing what's the star rating system
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it's a star rating system you know like it's like a four star system i feel like you're
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playing a joke on me right now i don't know what this is uh so like you ever like uh this
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gonna be a racist joke i already know it watch like uh i don't like your watch like black people
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fight no well usually when they do um there's some patterns that emerge like they say five stars
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no no no it's a four star um it's been a while since i judged one of these fights but there is
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a star system and if you get all four elements to appear in a fight then it is a four star
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oh i don't like it fight shout out ploop log just had my fifth and it sucks but it's not bad even
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when it's bad it's not horrible there you go ploop log has five kids i'm listening to this
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with my grandma raven god damn yeah you know what i think we'll probably save this for another time
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so the last uh the last question it comes from christina last week she didn't get to ask it so
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this is one that was missed there's no way i have time to unpack this to its fullest but it's adam
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and eve if they're in heaven or hell i hope they're in heaven i think they're in heaven
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we don't know like it's just like solomon adam and eve like we just we don't know like that's
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up to god we don't know how come nobody prays to adam and eve that's interesting right because
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you're still like people are adamant and praying to saints and church fathers and all this other
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shit like how come you don't see these people like praying to adam and eve i don't know dude
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maybe they think that they're bad well i mean they made a mistake they lived they lived in
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perfection right sure so even in perfection man is still capable of sin and man is still
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like moving towards sin but they repented like like when i read that story i'm like
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god says hey man where are you and he doesn't say hey f you god because i'm with satan now
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well he says the woman you gave me was all messed up yeah i don't know i know we like to be like oh
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he blame shifted i think he was like god you you of all people know how much i loved her
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and i've even heard it taught that like he's a type of christ he knew god told him if you eat
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from that tree you die he watched his wife eat from it knew she was gonna die and said the only
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way to save her is for me to do this now that he's a type of christ that christ had to come down and
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die for us we already have that in uh him being the the the church being the bride of christ
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laney says it's believed that they were pulled out with jesus in the harrowing of hades
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and he's going heavy man i don't know laney says cool but i'm just saying that uh
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some people some people look at adam like a type of christ like he knew i've heard that he knew
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what he was doing and did it anyway to save his bride and and therefore was a type of christ
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some people say like he just loved her so much that he was like wherever she's going i'm going
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with her man like what about the idea that he saw that she didn't die i don't think he thought that
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i think he knew something he's like it's gonna happen yeah i think he knew god close enough he's
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like dude this is going bad and i don't know how quick um there that that spiritual separation
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happened you know what i mean which one what do you mean from from god from god i mean they could
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still talk to him but clearly they were separated if they thought we got to go hide from them i mean
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that's death dude like that separation from god is really death right like when you're separated
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from god like that that really is a that really is there's nothing worse than that they have this
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thing with him and then they're like we better hide from them but thank god like okay he hides
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and then god reaches out to him and he communicates with god and you know takes a licking and keeps on
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ticking you know what i'm saying like that story could have been very different that could have
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been the story of adam saying you know what f you god that that uh that shining one he was right
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well we talked about this with ed and and he takes a bit of a different stance in the idea of like
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uh our god is consistently one of forgiveness and it doesn't seem anywhere in scripture
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that uh that adam or eve took any sort of um ownership and and and you know like uh repentance
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for what they did really yeah because first adam goes the woman and then the woman goes or eve goes
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the serpent instead of taking ownership and repenting and saying i'm sorry you know forgive
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me um and this idea that maybe god would have forgiven him maybe the iniquity that was found
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of them could have been rectified right there that is how i look at it uh
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god and when the woman saw her died to make one wise and gave it also her husband he did eat and
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the eyes of them both were open and they knew that they were naked and they sewed fig leaves
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together and made themselves aprons and they heard the voice of the lord god walking in the
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garden in the cool of the day and adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the lord
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god amongst the trees of the garden and the lord god called into adam and said where are you
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adam could have not responded right there well i mean sure he could have not responded but he
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doesn't exactly take ownership either when does he respond well i mean again this is one of those
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stories that who knows how much longer it unfolds too like does every time god corrects you you
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immediately say hey my bad i screwed that up or you just sometimes it takes a while until you're
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like okay yeah well it does seem that we we're choosing to read into it it's just what direction
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do you choose sure and i think somebody said i forget what the word was but it meant that like
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both truths can't be true at the same time like one person says i think adam and eve are clearly
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in hell another one says i think they're not they can't both be right i'm just saying i know top
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hates that you have to leave room for this phrase if you're going to study the bible i don't know
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ready for this phrase i don't know right yeah yeah i mean whatever we've been given but i but i read
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it and say yeah i think that this is a story of you know look he said lord god called him to adam
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and said him where are you he said i heard your voice in the garden and i was afraid because i
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was naked and i hid myself he's got an open line of communication with god still right right like
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like to me it looks like he very much could have said you know what f you god and he doesn't what
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What I'll say is it seems to me that it would be important if Adam did repent and given the direction of everything afterwards, it seems more likely that his absence of repentance, meaning the contextual absence of it, it's not there.
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And the direction things went suggests that there was no repentance.
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i look at like this is still a conversation between a father and a child and he's saying
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because look what he says i was afraid because i was naked yeah so god knew adam didn't like this
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feeling like he knows like hey bro you oh afraid of being naked well have you ever felt that feeling
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before let's get to the bottom of it like i don't i read this different i guess man is i'm like
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anytime you see god ask having no he's definitely talking to you he's saying oh you don't like that
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feeling afraid yeah how did you get here adam well that's what um mabry also points out that i think
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is really great is the way he talks to adam and eve versus the way that he talks to the serpent
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so with adam he's it's he's like he's like a father right he's like where are you of course
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he knows where he is yeah well another big thing he curses the ground for adam but he curses the
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shining one directly yeah like it's not like shining one what were you thinking you know
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who told you to do that adam isn't cursed that's another reason i would say i don't think he's
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well it's like i don't know that adam was and adam's lack of being cursed is representative
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of him not it's like look you did a thing and there are consequences to that thing that you've
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done now a cascade of events are going to take place in the spiritual realm they're going to
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have physical repercussions on the human race forever now until this thing is rectified but
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that that just seems like the consequence of his actions if there was something greater going on
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like if god didn't you know if god was like you like the nakash knew better therefore your curse
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like the nakash knew better the nakash knows what happens the spiritual implications of all this
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shit so he's judged harshly and and there's no questions to him right but there's questions of
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the humans he walks them through it i'm saying so like with with adam it's like okay like if my
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my kid did something wrong and i knew like hey there's a series of consequences coming i love
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you i'm not going to curse you like you're good i'm still going to be with you but buckle up dude
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because shit's about to get real yeah but what if you start to have this conversation with him
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and your son doesn't lie back to you he's honest with you it's not going to stop the consequences
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okay but that's what but it's a lot different than if he lied to you well if he lied i think
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it's a big deal that adam says yeah i did eat a bit and i know we love to say he blamed cast or
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whatever thing is like i think he's being honest i think he's saying god you gave me this chick
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okay well let me ask you this if he if he did did god have the ability to stop the series of events
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that would come from adam and eve's transgressions yeah he can do whatever he wants so but they had
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this planned from before adam and eve it wasn't like adam ate the fruit and they're like oh crap
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what do we do now one of us is gonna have to go down there guys like it wasn't it wasn't like that
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right right this was planned from the beginning but i'm just wondering like so i guess the the
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question is if they didn't um let's say they did not repent they didn't take ownership if they had
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let's say they hadn't if they had would god have been like okay restored the iniquity is is wiped
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clean i'm the god of forgiveness you've asked for my forgiveness you've you've repented you've taken
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ownership this is all done no i mean the curse came on the entire planet right like like that's
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the thing like uh adam is referred to as the first adam and jesus is referred to in two places the
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second adam and the last adam like what did they have in common that the entire creation came under
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the authority of what happened to them right so adam wasn't just a representative of adam adam was
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a representative of the entire human race and planet earth and planet earth the whole planet's
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cursed whether he repents or not like that like the deed is done like you're saying the deed is
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done now in regards to where adam himself spends eternity yeah i think adam and eve i hope adam
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and eve i don't know what's up to god but i hope they're there and i don't know like i said when
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i read this story i'm saying this is still a father with his children yeah i don't think that
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he i don't think they're um and so who knows how the rest of their life went who knows i guess we
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don't really know man my take when i read it is like um i don't know in a weird in a weird way
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um it's almost like uh i don't know i don't know all i know is when i read that i always was like
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thank god they didn't lie back to him yeah thank god they said they might have said yeah it's
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because of the wife but he said straight up it was because of the wife like that is why i did it
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right yeah i guess i could see that i don't think that they're um in hell that's not the
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the impression that i get i just i don't think you go from in a weird way i almost feel like
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god took responsibility for the humans in this dude yeah like he knew they were gonna go to the
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tree dude it's just like i say like if you tell your kids hey whatever you do if you tell jack
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hey me and mom are going out for the night whatever you do don't go my top right dresser
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drawer in my room it's going straight when i get home like i mean in a certain way it almost feels
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like god took responsibility for this yeah and that's why he had this communication with the
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humans and had the question and answer and he made it a learning thing for them in in some way and so
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for us we're like what he just used this for a learning moment was 6 000 years but for him it's
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just the story of reality it is like the earliest you know it's like the childhood of humanity that's
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what adam and eve in a lot of ways represent right because they are the the uh the sole
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representations of humanity at that time um i just don't think you go from like walking nightly or
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in the evening in the cool of the day with adam and you know teaching him all this stuff and naming
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all the animals and having like this real like that's like the like the most um how would you
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like the most fatherly relationship is the way that that's described like walking in the evenings
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with your son and and yeah not only that before that he he uh forms all the animals of the ground
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and brings them to him to name them so i don't think you you throw that guy in hell i just don't
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think i mean he could if god wants to he could if he would but just like god i just don't i don't
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think that i don't know it's a it's a fair question i there's probably a passage somewhere
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that says something but i don't know i could again i probably could have did a little more
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research before we did the show you really dropped the ball but i just always look at this like it
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was just this learning thing with a father and a son man it was just like he walked him through it
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and said okay man it wasn't like i didn't know you were gonna do this i don't think that either
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like so still reserve i don't know if he's saying this he says that would make eve a manipulative
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bitch letting adam eat after she knew what would happen like i don't know i don't look at eve that
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way either i think it's really easy to kind of go like eve that bitch there's a c.s lewis book uh
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it's in the space trilogy and it's the second one i think and i think they're on a planet called
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prelandria and it's a adam and eve story on another planet and again we read these stories
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like this happened one afternoon in that book the serpent figure is following eve around the planet
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for like months or years gaining her trust whispering in her fucking ears until she finally
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has a moment of weakness well that's not what happens in that story i don't want to mess it up
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but in that story the adam and eve character don't sin it's like this beautiful story where
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like we never had to have the creator come to our planet the way he came to your planet because
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there's a human who goes there to the it's a rad story but it's but anyway i don't know like it's
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so easy to look at eve and say like that nasty you know what no she was deceived but who knows
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how long that went on man even if it didn't go on that long the idea that she was deceived by a high
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ranking spiritual being that was known for his wisdom yeah like yeah dude and and that and i
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think what she was saying or somebody in the chat was saying that like um that was wrong of her
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because she knew now her eyes were open and she still let adam do it i think that might be why
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people say yeah adam knew exactly what he was doing all along and knew that like if he did this
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now something would have to go into play that was going to save the human race laney with the banger
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too uh said let me bring it up on stage here that adam was a prophet priest and uh king over her so
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Well, not only that, Adam gets put in the garden
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So how did this snake get to Eve in the first place?
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in a certain way, take responsibility for this,
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Jess is like, I love that I'm your helper.
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Like the Bible spells out that the woman's the helper.
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She's like, because ultimately everything's on you.
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So all I have to do is help you. And she's right. Yeah. And I have to say that to her sometimes. Hey, I'm going to be held accountable for this situation at the judgment seat for not just me, but you, the kid. So, yeah, if you can just help me.
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Well, that's why it is crazy, right? That Adam Simulacra says it. Adam goes like, it was the woman you gave me. Like, it's like you have dominion. You're her spiritual leader.
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maybe he said like that but maybe he went like this is what happened maybe he just puts his head
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down and goes god it's the woman that you gave me you you know that one yeah you know that one that
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i that i was here like watching the animals you could really never had i never had another human
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and then all of a sudden i had this chick and she had boobs and a vagina and a butt and like you
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gave her to me she had a donkey i bet like you remember how like rad that was for me when that
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day happened and she was given to me oh god did you think i wasn't gonna go with her where she
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went yeah i don't know i i don't know i just think it's i don't know what happens man i guess
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you read into it without however you would look into it maybe because the way i look at my wife
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that's why i read it that way i don't know maybe i know but i think it's very easy to just say oh
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blame cast or oh i don't know man i think some of these stories are a lot deeper than that i also
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think that these two adam and eve like oftentimes they are they're painted as um i don't know like
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sort of naive and like in in some ways i'm sure they were but like you know to be um a priest and
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a king and have dominion over the garden of eden and to be naming all the animals and shit like
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these two were probably look like wizards to us yeah dude well what they fell from who knows bro
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like i think that even science tells us that like we only use 10 of our brain like bro who who know
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like our concept of what adam fell from yeah who knows so for us to be sitting back and being like
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communicating face to face with god like he like clearly he's capable i don't know if he can move
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at like the speed of thought like if he could just think and be somewhere or what this communication
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looked like he's he's face to face with god yeah i think we have no concept that is crazy because
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there's a lot of people who do that like oh you know sin came in through the woman and eve was
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this and that and and it's like we're like none of the kind of like retards yelling at
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fucking sorcerers you know like like long deceased sorcerers that's a fair point dude dude that's uh
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and i'm telling you nowhere in the story was god like they did what yeah no they ate from the tree
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i told him not none of it happened like that like god's like yeah you know what man in that in that
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way i'm not saying you should i'm not saying you should but the idea that the catholic church this
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is fucking kind of fascinating to me i'm not saying you should do this but you're praying to
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mary and you're praying to the saints and like i do suspect that yeah adam and eve were basically
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fucking like wizards in in you know in comparison to us and their ability to perceive and interact
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with the spiritual realm and the things that they knew as to the true nature of reality and the true
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nature of the spiritual realm uh and they're not praying to them that seems kind of crazy to me
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like if you prayed to adam and eve i'd be like praying to the first man and woman ever uh i
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don't agree with it but i kind of get it i get that you would make the attempt i can see how
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that's tempting like none of these people are doing that that's kind of fascinating to me
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because if anybody was some like high level whatever you want to call it alchemist or something
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or you know like that it's it would be them it would be them but people aren't doing that i
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wonder why i don't know man but but back to this tree of the knowledge of good and evil thing
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sometimes people are like yeah why was this bad especially when you have the story of solomon
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we're talking about solomon earlier uh when god comes to solomon in the dream actually we should
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just pull that up because you asked where it was i want to say it's like one kings three
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but it might be two kings three i think it's something chapter three or four
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uh he asked for wisdom as well but god's not mad at him for that
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still reserve said mary gave birth to christ so their blood was at one point the same yeah but i
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I mean, like Adam and Eve were, like I said, straight up wizards, probably.
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In Gibeon, the Lord appeared to Solomon in a dream by night,
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Solomon said, you have showed unto thy servant David, my father,
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great mercy according as he walked before you in truth and in righteousness
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And you have kept for him this great kindness that you have given him a son
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And now, O Lord, my God, thou has made thy servant king instead of David, my father,
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I know not how to go out or come in and thy servant is in the midst of thy people, which you have chosen a great people that cannot be numbered nor counted for multitude.
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That's Israel. Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge between thy people that I may discern between good and bad for who is able to judge this.
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Thy so great a people. So how is this different than Adam and Eve eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?
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Hang on, hang on. In the speech, please, the Lord that Solomon asked this thing.
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And God said unto him, because you have asked this thing and has not asked for thyself long life or riches, nor has asked thy life of thy enemies, but has asked thyself understanding to discern judgment.
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Lo, I've given you a wise and understanding heart so that there was none like thee before thee, neither after thee shall any arise like unto thee.
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And he says, and also I'll give you the riches and all this stuff too.
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But like the difference here is that he asked God for an understanding heart.
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right he doesn't he's not asking for this outside of god so that's the difference because
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sometimes people are asking what's the difference adam and eve went to the tree of knowledge of good
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and evil so they could have the knowledge of good and evil outside of the relationship with god
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where solomon is asking for wisdom inside of that relationship with god so that's the difference
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between those two okay he's still fucked up yeah it says he was the wisest man on the earth there
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was no nobody after it's even crazy too because people that are like doing all this occult magic
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shit are going after the keys of solomon so they believe that solomon was this real dude was this
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like high-ranking wizard and that all this knowledge is is available through his works
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and you could be like him but god literally says nobody's going to be as wise as you after
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yeah i don't know what's going on in the chat but somebody's talking about how jesus said i do
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everything under the will of my father so he's acknowledging a hierarchy i'm just saying we
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have to do hierarchy and finger quotes because jesus was a servant to the father is a servant
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to the father and the Holy Spirit is a servant to Jesus. If you study it out, he says that the
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Holy Spirit won't say anything other than himself. He'll only say things of me. And so I think we
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would use the word hierarchy, which I'm not saying it's wrong, but I'm just saying in our mind,
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a servant is less than the other one. Whereas in the Godhead, it's not. Because Jesus is a servant
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to the father and does his will doesn't make him less than the father. It's just in our mindset.
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And that's why he's able to say, if any of you wants to be the greatest, be the servant. Yeah,
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it's not because it's not so it's literally inverted in a way right with the godhead it's
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not but with us it is yeah and the godhead they're all equal but it's so servanthood doesn't change
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anything all right all right well we got to end this now it's two and a half hours two and a half
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hours and i got to eat this fried chicken that is the stinkiest fried chicken i've ever smelled
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for two and a half hours watermelon did anybody like the q a i don't think i really don't think
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they liked it i really like the question is this kind of lame to do it every week though or should
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we do it every no i think it's great i think uh yeah why not when is the next time we're going
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to fill this place out and do a bible study you never sit in dude when's the next time we're
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going to fill out the the whole coffee shop and do you say when brother you say well i don't know
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i don't have the ability to call anybody like having the raven on the thing today or was it
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kind of not so much no we'll bring back don't worry we'll bring back top next time no no you
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should be in this like more dude you should be in the mix no i would because especially top is
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really not liking that you're not going to church now dude so you should be kind of doing at least
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this kind of stuff i didn't know that well i mean pastor rick has been texting me i didn't respond
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to his text messages the old pastor yeah i like him whoa whoa whoa the og pastor that really like
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had enough i see you doing the thing with the lip like you're embarrassed about it i already know
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you never responded to him well the reason i'm not embarrassed about it is because everybody
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knows i don't respond to anybody uh including this guy who's like a spiritual mentor to you
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i mean we had a couple of moments he was a real ass you know dude but uh so you're gonna not
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respond to them well you know the way i look at it is you ever been in touch with like a salesperson
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after you stop that is not how you look at it dude i'm not saying i look at him that way i'm
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just saying what are you saying why would you bring this up in context of like talking to him
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because that was you feel like you bought a refrigerator and now the salesman you bought
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the refrigerator from is calling to touch base i'm just saying you give the church your number
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when you first start going there and if they notice that you don't show up they just look to
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it to keep their numbers up that's the way i see it oh crap i didn't realize that yeah yeah but
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he's not the pastor there anymore he's the lead pastor he's not the lead pastor but he's still
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like you know oh so you think he's just calling to see why you haven't showed up i i would imagine
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that anybody not just me gets that message if you don't show up for a while okay you need to be
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going somewhere dude all right well you know start filling this place out no i'll go with you
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somewhere you want to go let's go here let's fucking do it here sunday mornings why does it
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have to be sunday morning who's care about friday nights who cares whenever whenever it works let's
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do it here no top is adamant you need to be at a sunday morning i hate to use the word show but
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he's adamant you should be at like a sunday morning show no i don't want separate from me
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it can't just be like me it's got to be like nothing to do with well i mean you do present
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it in a way that i can actually understand so why would i don't even watch the shows
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i already told me that i have a dude here you never watch the shows i watch the shows sometimes
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i have a dude here that explains things in a way that i understand so i'm gonna go somewhere else
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yeah top wants you to man that doesn't make any sense let's do it here let's fill this place out
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when when's the next time we can fill this place out there's no way laney does all the edits with
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his phone yeah yeah uh i'm down for whatever he's basically solomon okay so let's do let's do it
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today's what i thought laney had a laptop didn't we get laney or didn't talk no that's uh the
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chinese well they're both asian we only employ asian people by the way that's an interesting
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point dude are you sure of my nationality no um you're not so when is the next time we can fill
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it i want to let's answer this before we close it out today is the fifth it's it's uh friday can we
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get people here for like an in-person bible study soon if you set it up and all i gotta do is show
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up and do the content i don't know i don't know i told top for straight bible i said bro if all i
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have to do is show up and do the content i'm good but i don't i can't do any of the other stuff
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all right do you have anything to say in closing people love you man this is your q a i know but
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they love you being part i'm always on my q a you're not they love you i'm always on nephilim
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death squad they love your i know but this is different this isn't all the same people
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where's that nice breeze coming from the ac kicked in all of a sudden i've never felt cold air in
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this place um all right that's that's all you want to say you crushed today thanks for doing
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your story if anybody didn't see uh raven's story from earlier dude you gotta watch that i don't
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know when it's gonna stream to youtube or whatever i don't know it's on your channel but it's on
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patreon yeah you guys want to watch that dude the raven has a wild ass life which you're really
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gonna want to watch this one all right okay that's it i mean have a good weekend it's friday