Nephilim Death Squad - SUNDAY SHARE： Temporary Temples： Crop Circles, Stone Circles, Ancient Geometry, & Non-Human Intelligence w⧸ Karen Alexander

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00:01:32.000 First, as part of Top Lobster Productions, we're bringing you one of our favorite content creators, Brad Lail.

00:01:37.820 He's been on the podcast two times, three times now, David?

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00:01:56.600 I think today we have a deep dive on crop circles, which is pretty cool.

00:02:02.080 Yeah, he's touching on crop circles, stone circles, ancient geometry.

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00:04:21.280 And without further ado, here we go.

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00:04:23.560 This episode is called Temporary Temples.

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00:05:27.000 And welcome back to The Awaken Podcast.

00:05:28.800 I'm your host, Brad Lael.

00:05:29.680 And as always, thank you so much for joining me on this awakening journey.

00:05:32.780 In this episode, I'm joined by photographer, researcher, artist, and former psychotherapist, Karen Alexander, to talk about crop circles.

00:05:40.340 For the past three decades, Karen and her partner, Steve, have studied plant samples, geometry, earth energies, and the consciousness aspect of crop circles.

00:05:48.860 We discuss what crop circles are, who are what's making them, their geometric and symbolic curriculum, and their potential connection to the birth of a new world.

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00:06:03.900 All right, I'm here today with Karen Alexander from TemporaryTemples.co.uk.

00:06:10.800 Karen, how are you, man?

00:06:11.900 Welcome to the show.

00:06:13.380 I'm great.

00:06:13.920 Thank you.

00:06:14.680 If you don't mind, let everyone know a little bit about yourself and what kind of work you do.

00:06:19.280 Okay, so, yeah, I'm Karen Alexander, and I'm from the UK, and I have been looking at crop circles since I was in my early 20s, which is about 30 years ago now, and so all that time.

00:06:40.260 Myself and my husband, Steve, we have been recording as many crop circles from the air as we can over those years and have literally flown over hundreds of them, and we work primarily in the UK, but we are obviously networked with other people around the globe because crop circles are a global phenomenon.

00:07:04.980 And although the center seems to be here in the UK, they do happen in Europe, the Americas, Brazil, I think there was one just maybe a couple of months ago in Brazil.

00:07:19.820 And, I mean, it's been going on a very, very long time.

00:07:23.180 It's a little bit sort of like the UFO subject, you know, how long has it been going on?

00:07:28.780 Well, it's been going on a really long time.

00:07:30.580 And, yes, it's kind of one of those subjects that doesn't perhaps get as much attention as it should.

00:07:38.120 It's an absolutely fascinating subject.

00:07:42.000 It's incredibly beautiful as well, and, you know, and has a really wide and profound effect on people that come across it or interact with it.

00:07:52.980 So, yeah, my background personally is in psychology.

00:07:58.460 So, I was a practicing therapist for a number of years.

00:08:01.720 I no longer practice that.

00:08:04.380 So, I'm very interested and always have been very interested in the sort of the psychological side of it.

00:08:10.440 And I'm also lending into the maybe the spiritual side of it a little bit as well.

00:08:16.120 And I've taken part in all kinds of research into this.

00:08:20.740 So, right from doing plant samplings, so sampling the plants inside that were then sent off for scientific analysis.

00:08:29.620 I've done stuff on the consciousness side of it, looking at whether or not it's possible that human consciousness could affect the phenomenon.

00:08:39.320 And, obviously, the geometry of them.

00:08:42.440 I draw the crop circles a lot.

00:08:44.160 I teach other people to draw them as well.

00:08:47.520 And so, all kinds of different looking.

00:08:50.240 I've looked at all kinds of different aspects of it over those 30 years.

00:08:55.280 When you mentioned the consciousness of it, I'm very interested in that, obviously, as well.

00:08:59.980 I didn't even think about that aspect of it because I've been thinking about the spirituality aspect of it, but not necessarily the consciousness aspect.

00:09:07.920 Like, is there a tie-in to maybe, like, human resonance with these crop circles?

00:09:14.100 Well, I guess what we should start off with is, like, a basic explanation of what crop circles are.

00:09:22.020 So, what are crop circles?

00:09:26.080 Okay.

00:09:27.260 So, at a very, very basic level, they are circles swept or pressed into crops.

00:09:35.520 And the crop itself isn't cut or really damaged in any way.

00:09:43.880 The crops inside, when you walk inside a crop circle, they're very often laid down and then they'll be swirled.

00:09:51.360 So, either clockwise or counterclockwise.

00:09:55.680 Some of them are very sophisticated on the ground.

00:09:58.860 They can have weaving and knotting and all kinds of amazing things going on at ground level.

00:10:04.760 But that's what they are at their most basic.

00:10:08.180 So, they're not mown or the crop isn't removed at all.

00:10:12.200 It stays as it is.

00:10:15.160 And how long has it been going on?

00:10:17.080 Well, that's kind of how long is a piece of string, really.

00:10:21.440 Certainly, the earliest recorded circles photographically would probably go back to maybe the 1950s, maybe earlier.

00:10:29.420 But there have been reports of crop circles going way back.

00:10:33.920 And certainly, you know, you speak to, you know, the grandparents or great-grandparents of farmers and they'll tell you they remember playing in them as children.

00:10:43.780 And then, you know, there are some interesting woodcuts, you know, that go back to the 1600s, which sort of showed something very similar to perhaps a crop circle.

00:10:58.680 It's very difficult to know in this day and age whether it is or it isn't.

00:11:01.980 But I think they first started to come to the public's attention, perhaps from the mid-1970s onwards.

00:11:09.740 And certainly by the late 80s, they were starting to be reported in the press, in the mainstream press, particularly in the UK.

00:11:16.900 And there was a real sort of global interest in it because the shapes had gone from being perhaps just a circle in a field or a circle with a ring or maybe a group of circles to things that were becoming more and more sophisticated.

00:11:36.280 And by the time we got to 1990, that was a really big year for crop circles.

00:11:42.440 There was a really big crop circle at a place called Alton Barnes in Wiltshire, which is sort of in the southern central England and was eventually used on the cover of a Led Zeppelin album, which is very good.

00:11:58.500 And then, yes, then there was a real interest.

00:12:03.060 In fact, my other half has this really great photograph of, you know, there is this big field.

00:12:11.140 This is where the big Led Zeppelin circle was.

00:12:14.040 And there's a long road that comes down the side, snaking down the side of the field.

00:12:19.880 And all the cars are parked on either side of this road because people wanted to have a look.

00:12:25.560 People stood on the roofs of their cars looking looking down into the field and you couldn't pass the road.

00:12:31.620 There were just so many people there.

00:12:34.200 So it really caused a big stir, kind of a bit like when, you know, you have a UFO flap and, you know, everybody's interested in what's going on.

00:12:44.240 Everybody's fascinated and kind of awed by it all.

00:12:47.520 And that's kind of how it stayed for a year, maybe a year and a half.

00:12:55.560 And there were questions being asked about it in the Houses of Parliament here, which is kind of like your Congress in America.

00:13:04.980 And then it kind of all got shut down, really, because that's when the first big story about crop circles being hoaxed was put out in the media.

00:13:16.320 And it was a great shame.

00:13:20.520 It kind of it kind of burst the bubble in the subject a lot.

00:13:24.740 And a lot of people thought, oh, well, OK, it was nice while it lasted.

00:13:28.540 And, you know, if they went to their normal lives again.

00:13:31.460 But of course, the crop circles didn't stop happening.

00:13:33.780 And in fact, over, you know, especially during the 90s and the early 2000s, some of them got increasingly large and increasingly complex.

00:13:45.060 And but at that point, it had kind of, as I said, it had kind of really burst the bubble of mainstream public interest in it.

00:13:52.880 And so now and again, there were the press might, you know, if there was something really amazing in a field, the press might cover it.

00:14:00.960 But that way, you know, that's kind of the way of these things, I think.

00:14:04.860 And I do think there was probably an element of needing to shut it down a little bit.

00:14:09.740 I think I think the powers that be were a little bit worried about how the public were reacting to it.

00:14:15.620 Not that it was in any negative way whatsoever, but I think that they felt that it was getting a little bit out of control and that something needed to be done to dampen it down.

00:14:26.400 And I'm still actually a great believer that that's, in fact, what happened in the UK.

00:14:31.280 It's very sad, but it is the way of things very often.

00:14:35.840 You think they were putting out a hoax and intentionally is what you're saying?

00:14:39.740 Yes, I do. Yes. Yeah.

00:14:41.840 Yeah. The story was actually the big story.

00:14:44.620 The big hoaxing story was actually run in a newspaper called the Today newspaper, which is no longer around in the UK.

00:14:50.540 But actually, the.

00:14:52.980 The news agency that that story came from, nobody could ever track it down.

00:14:58.460 And, you know, so it was very, very interesting where that story came from in the first place.

00:15:04.720 But, yes, I do. I think I think people I think there were people.

00:15:08.240 People in certain parts of the government that were very, very worried about, you know, the possible effects that this might be having on on the public, you know, that it was getting them a little bit overexcited, basically, which I think they didn't like.

00:15:23.380 So what else can I tell you about them?

00:15:26.220 I can tell you that they they appear in all kinds of crops and plants.

00:15:30.660 So and it and depending where you are in the world, it, you know, depends on what crops they appear in.

00:15:36.460 So in the US, for instance, you get a lot in what we would call maize, but you call corn or soy because you grow a lot of that in the US.

00:15:45.940 It tends to be wheat and barley in the UK, but sometimes it can be in things like canola, which, you know, has those beautiful yellow flowers on it.

00:15:56.280 Or sometimes borage here or even linseed, which have like these blue and purple flowers on it.

00:16:03.640 I've seen them in also in beans.

00:16:06.200 So kind of lots and lots of different crops kind of depending on what's being grown and where.

00:16:13.420 In fact, I think just a few years ago, there was one in mustard seed.

00:16:17.360 So it yeah, it kind of depends.

00:16:19.380 And obviously, they follow the crop growing season wherever you are in the world.

00:16:23.460 So so in the UK, they they can begin any time from sort of late April, May time, right the way through perhaps to the end of August when all the fields are brought in.

00:16:34.840 And that's the same for each country.

00:16:37.680 So there's a seasonality to it.

00:16:40.000 I mean, and obviously, if there's nothing for them to appear in, they won't appear.

00:16:44.080 So so they do, you know, the average size of a crop circle in the UK is about 200 feet in diameter, which is pretty big.

00:16:53.560 And one of the biggest ones we've had was about a thousand feet across.

00:16:59.200 Most of them appear overnight.

00:17:02.140 So there's nothing there the night before.

00:17:04.060 They're there complete and finished the next morning.

00:17:07.900 Sometimes they're spotted very early in the morning as well, just as the sun's coming up.

00:17:13.300 People sometimes go out and night watch over the fields.

00:17:17.800 So there's that to it.

00:17:20.420 There's also a relationship, certainly with balls of light and crop circles.

00:17:25.880 Balls of light have been filmed a lot around the crop circles.

00:17:29.060 And certainly my other half, Steve, videoed one back in 1990.

00:17:35.200 But we've seen them many times since then.

00:17:38.480 And many other people have.

00:17:39.920 There are quite a few videos around showing lights associated with with the circles.

00:17:45.740 So that's very interesting.

00:17:48.200 They also have other effects, too.

00:17:52.000 Sometimes animals have strange reactions to them.

00:17:54.960 I remember being in a really big crop circle one year.

00:17:58.620 And the daughter of the farmer had.

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00:19:26.880 Her horse.

00:19:27.960 I wanted to bring her horse up the field and into the crop circle.

00:19:33.000 The horse was having none of it.

00:19:34.760 And, you know, reared up.

00:19:37.040 And she had to turn the horse around.

00:19:38.880 And he was having none of it.

00:19:43.020 Yep.

00:19:43.620 So, yeah, there are things like that.

00:19:45.580 Sometimes dogs are very wary about going into the fields as well,

00:19:50.240 if you have dogs with you.

00:19:51.660 So, there's a little bit of that too.

00:19:55.060 But, yeah, it kind of ticks all the kind of boxes for something akin.

00:20:02.120 Not quite the same as the UFO subject, but something akin to it.

00:20:06.260 Something like that going on with it.

00:20:10.000 So, it's, you know, people have strange reactions to them as well.

00:20:14.300 You know, sometimes people go in and they'll complain of a headache or not feeling well,

00:20:19.000 where other people will go in and feel completely elated.

00:20:22.420 So, it's kind of a mishmash of things.

00:20:27.400 But, I think there is something about them that is certainly unnerving for some people

00:20:33.380 and for some animals as well.

00:20:36.100 Where are they usually located with regards to, like, are they near fissures or fault lines

00:20:42.880 or streams, volcanoes, stone circles or structures?

00:20:48.040 Yeah, they tend to be around sites of ancient human culture.

00:20:58.600 So, in the UK, obviously, we have a big ancient megalithic culture that use big stones.

00:21:06.380 So, places like Stonehenge or Avebury, which is actually the largest stone circle in Europe

00:21:11.600 and not as well known as Stonehenge.

00:21:13.940 Avebury has been the centre of crop circle appearances for many years.

00:21:19.480 But there are lots of other places.

00:21:20.980 Actually, the English landscape, particularly in the south, is littered with hill forts

00:21:26.920 and, you know, just other, you know, ancient human settlements.

00:21:31.880 And the crop circles tend to congregate around those.

00:21:36.980 They also do that pretty much everywhere.

00:21:39.500 So, even in the US, you know, there have been some really interesting circles around places

00:21:44.980 like Serpent Mound in Ohio.

00:21:48.200 And in Europe, obviously, there were megalithic cultures there, particularly in France and

00:21:53.880 Germany and so on.

00:21:55.380 So, that's where the crop circles tend to happen over there.

00:21:58.900 So, there is kind of like this love affair between our ancient cultures and then this modern

00:22:05.460 phenomenon of the crop circles.

00:22:07.380 So, you don't think there's any association with volcanoes and faults and things like that?

00:22:13.920 I haven't heard of any crop circles per se near a volcano.

00:22:22.260 Fault lines, it's possible.

00:22:24.380 It's difficult to know.

00:22:27.520 Certainly, in the UK, they tend to happen where there is chalk and underground water.

00:22:32.540 So, a lot of the hills in Wiltshire and in Sussex in southern England are, they're chalk,

00:22:39.460 it's chalkland.

00:22:41.000 And then there will be underground aquifers as well.

00:22:44.180 And that tends to be sort of where the crop circles appear.

00:22:48.900 So, that's an interesting kind of link as well, whether there's something, whether the phenomenon

00:22:55.880 uses something in the ground itself to help facilitate the making of the circles, you know,

00:23:02.600 that's been something that's been considered as well.

00:23:05.820 Like energies, maybe magnetic or electromagnetic energies coming from the stream, the flow of

00:23:10.580 water.

00:23:10.860 Yeah, where you've got water and chalk, there is the possibility of piezoelectric kind of effects.

00:23:18.980 So, a lot of people talk about earth lights being particularly seen in those kinds of areas.

00:23:26.620 I'm sorry, what are they called?

00:23:27.840 Earth lights?

00:23:28.800 Is that what you said?

00:23:29.380 Earth lights, yeah.

00:23:30.680 I think I've never heard of that.

00:23:31.940 Well, it's kind of like, you know, as you were mentioning, sort of the idea of, you know,

00:23:40.140 fault lines or volcanic lines where there is, you know, particular stresses on the earth

00:23:45.920 that it can cause like this piezoelectric effect and create light phenomena.

00:23:51.000 So, you know, is there something to do with that, to do with the crop circles?

00:23:56.880 It's something that has been considered, but I mean, obviously not proven in any way.

00:24:02.580 Is there a lot of talk in your circles, no pun intended, about ley lines and things like

00:24:07.840 that?

00:24:09.140 Yeah, absolutely.

00:24:10.580 In fact, one of the first big researchers into the crop circles was a guy called Jean

00:24:19.400 Michel, and he wrote this wonderful book called The New View Over Atlantis.

00:24:25.100 Yes, I read it.

00:24:26.000 Yep, yep.

00:24:27.300 Yeah.

00:24:27.640 And so he was very interested in that kind of thing.

00:24:30.700 So he was interested in obviously megalithic culture, and then also in the sort of the

00:24:36.060 fairy stories as well, because we have a lot of fairy kind of lore in the UK as well.

00:24:41.500 So there would be things like Willow the Wisp, which was the light, the light that kind of

00:24:46.100 would lead people astray.

00:24:49.000 And yes, so earth lights is a term that John would recognize to describe these strange lights

00:24:55.340 that people see in the landscape.

00:24:58.380 So yeah, okay.

00:24:59.080 So earth lights are the same as orbs or ball lightning.

00:25:02.180 Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:03.320 Yeah.

00:25:03.440 All right.

00:25:03.760 I was trying to figure that out while I go, but I assumed that's what it was.

00:25:06.820 But yeah, that's always the case.

00:25:08.620 There's always like orbs and lights and things like that flying around these, what I'm assuming

00:25:14.220 is highly magnetic or electrical.

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00:26:45.700 Magnetic energy pools, energy vortexes, whatever you want to call them.

00:26:51.340 I actually think of it as telluric currents that are flowing underground that's coming

00:26:57.540 out of fissures and sort of spinning up these magnetic vortexes around these different areas.

00:27:04.460 And so I actually think that Aveberry and Stonehenge and things like that were designed

00:27:09.840 to kind of encircle those currents and kind of keep them in one area and possibly to communicate

00:27:16.780 spiritually in some way.

00:27:20.060 But who or what do you think are causing or creating these things?

00:27:24.240 I know that's probably a loaded question because there's a lot of different avenues to go down.

00:27:28.900 Yeah, yeah, there are.

00:27:30.460 I mean, I think one of the things I've always tried to do is just to have a really open mind

00:27:38.300 about it.

00:27:38.880 I mean, obviously not so open that your brain falls out, but, you know, just to have an

00:27:45.800 unfailing dedication to having an open mind about it.

00:27:50.300 I think, actually, I think there are probably many things at work.

00:27:53.440 I think some of the things that we've just been discussing about, you know, about faults

00:28:00.340 or energies within the earth is certainly a part of it.

00:28:04.140 And I also think there's perhaps, you know, some kind of aerial component to it as well.

00:28:11.940 Maybe a kind of coming together, if you like, of things from the air and things from the

00:28:17.480 ground.

00:28:19.620 Are some of them man-made?

00:28:21.080 Absolutely, they are.

00:28:22.640 I, you know, I, you know, I'm kind of not so open-minded that I don't consider, consider

00:28:29.040 that or close-minded, but I think, I think there are enough, there's enough evidence now

00:28:35.900 to suggest that there's something more to it than that, just that.

00:28:39.880 And so, so that's where I, you know, that's where I've tended to, to concentrate my interest.

00:28:47.440 So do I think, I think there is some kind of other intelligence involved with this in

00:28:52.580 some way, and certainly one that has, for some reason, has a reverence or a connection

00:29:00.260 to our ancient ancestors, and certainly ones that talk in a very similar language to them.

00:29:10.520 Because, of course, you know, all the stone circles, you know, all the megalithic sites

00:29:16.700 are, you know, while they, they may have an earth energies component to them, they are

00:29:21.900 also linked to astronomy.

00:29:24.120 So, you know, Stonehenge was about the movement of the sun and the moon, and you can use Stonehenge

00:29:34.140 to predict eclipses to this day.

00:29:36.780 And it's, it's the same with AFRI as well, that, that looked at the movements, particularly

00:29:41.900 of the moon.

00:29:42.700 And so, yes, all, all the, the, the megalithic sites, I think, are connected to astronomy,

00:29:50.400 ancient astronomy, which also means that they're connected to ancient geometry as well.

00:29:55.700 So when we look at things like, take, for instance, Stonehenge, because it's something that everybody

00:30:01.720 recognizes, there is a geometry to Stonehenge.

00:30:05.500 And it's, it's a sophisticated geometry as well.

00:30:08.760 And, I mean, our ancient ancestors, you know, geometry was very important to them because

00:30:14.080 of its connection to astronomy.

00:30:17.460 So, and you find the same kind of ratios and proportions in the crop circles that you do

00:30:26.040 in stone circles.

00:30:27.280 So, you know, in, when we're looking at something like Stonehenge, for instance, there is a inherent

00:30:35.320 12 and sevenfold geometry in its construction.

00:30:39.160 We often find those numbers in the crop circles as well.

00:30:42.780 So there is that link.

00:30:44.880 So whatever this is, it's kind of tipping its hat in some way to our ancient ancestors and

00:30:53.100 what they knew and speaks to us in a very, very similar language.

00:30:57.380 So it may be that they, whatever this is, we're speaking to our ancestors as well at some point.

00:31:03.860 I saw something, you mentioned one of the earliest accounts was in the 1600s and it might have

00:31:09.600 been on your website where I saw it, was it called the Mowing Devil?

00:31:13.140 The Mowing Devil, yeah.

00:31:14.280 Okay, so like, do you think that, you know, previous, our ancestors, I guess you'd say,

00:31:22.340 had a sense of who these things are or were then?

00:31:26.120 I mean, if they were calling it Devil, why were they calling it Devil?

00:31:28.820 Was it because there were things flying in the sky and things like that?

00:31:32.220 No, so let me, let me tell you the story very quickly.

00:31:35.080 So the Mowing Devil is, it's a woodcut from the 1600s and it shows the Devil mowing crop

00:31:42.440 into a circle and here, the story goes a little bit like this, that there was a farmer who

00:31:47.740 was looking for someone to help bring his fields in at the end of the summer and he was going

00:31:54.160 around asking people to help and when they told him what it, what they were, what it would

00:31:59.100 cost them, cost him to hire them in to do this, he said, oh well, better, better the Devil

00:32:04.220 mow it and that's the story.

00:32:07.600 Yeah, so, so that's the kind of story of it.

00:32:11.160 I think perhaps if they were seen that far in those times, it would have been, I think

00:32:18.900 it would have been more associated with fairy lore and the idea of fairy rings in the UK,

00:32:25.620 I think it would have been seen as part of that rather than the work of the Devil, yeah.

00:32:30.020 So that's why, you know, you guys call them fairies, I mean, that orbs, lights, they're

00:32:34.380 all the same things to me, right?

00:32:35.740 Yeah, they are.

00:32:36.200 Yeah, yeah, they're kind of, yeah, I mean, you know, we would perhaps call them earth

00:32:40.700 spirits or something like that, yeah, yeah, it's the same kind of thing, yeah.

00:32:45.220 Do you think that there is a tie-in to the angels and demons lore of ancient history?

00:32:56.060 I mean, you know, that's something that goes back for forever, seemingly forever.

00:33:00.440 Yeah, I mean, it's very interesting, isn't it?

00:33:03.400 Again, I think, you know, there are links with Stonehenge to that, you know, that it's like

00:33:09.840 the great story of Uriel's machine.

00:33:13.420 And in fact, there's a book by that title.

00:33:15.860 And it talks about, you know, again, this idea of this ancestor civilization that was heavily

00:33:24.500 invested in astronomy, and in some kind of spiritual connection with the sky.

00:33:32.060 So, yes, I do think there's a connection to that, on that level.

00:33:36.240 So, yeah.

00:33:37.320 Are they, so you don't think that they're being maybe created by occultists or alchemists

00:33:44.220 or anything like that, that, you know, with some sort of magic spells?

00:33:48.020 I mean, this is, I'm just kind of exploring other ideas here on that really.

00:33:51.780 I don't, I don't think so.

00:33:54.460 I think whatever, whatever this is, when I look at the crop circles in detail, which I do,

00:34:01.440 particularly the way they're designed, you get glimpses of just a prodigious,

00:34:06.240 intellect behind them.

00:34:08.320 I've been working on one particular circle just lately, which is a, it was a huge crop circle.

00:34:15.180 It appeared back in 2008.

00:34:17.820 It was about 600 feet in diameter, and it was made up of a series of 12 geometric swallows.

00:34:26.540 Just, it was, it's just magnificent.

00:34:29.080 And, and I, the way I always approach these things now is that I, obviously,

00:34:35.600 I want to know about the geometry.

00:34:37.140 I want to know how it's put together.

00:34:39.460 So that's part of what I work out.

00:34:41.840 And then I also look at the symbolism that's being employed, what, what is being conveyed here.

00:34:47.640 And, you know, and obviously the swallow has many, many interesting mythological connections to it.

00:34:53.940 You know, but it, you know, it, I'm trying to think of the best way to, to kind of say this, but it's, it's connected to things like being messengers of the gods.

00:35:08.580 Birds are always seen as either messengers or they are beings of the, the higher realms because, particularly swallows, because they very rarely ever land on the ground.

00:35:17.900 They're, they're, they're a bird of higher places.

00:35:21.520 And in ancient Egypt, they were seen as the herald of a new dawn, which is very interesting.

00:35:27.780 And, and also the, the swallows, like the crop circles, are summer visitors here to the UK.

00:35:33.440 So they're, they're migratory birds.

00:35:35.520 They're only ever here in the summer, which is just like the crop circles.

00:35:38.080 So, so there are all sorts of things going on, on, on that level as well.

00:35:42.620 So I think whatever this is, it communicates in a completely unique way.

00:35:49.180 It marries symbolism from human cultures, but then with this transcendent geometry as well.

00:35:55.920 So, you know, whatever this is, it knows us kind of very well and, and knows us enough to be able to speak to us using our own cultural references.

00:36:06.940 But then kind of marries it with this, you know, fantastic sort of geometry and, and then placement in the landscape.

00:36:16.340 I mean, these things are here to grab our attention.

00:36:18.880 You know, if you see a, you know, a 600 foot shape in a field, you're going to pay attention to it.

00:36:23.620 So it wants your attention.

00:36:25.720 I mean, also the way these things are made on the ground.

00:36:29.100 So for instance, um, the way that the geometry works in the crop circles is that it always allows space for people to walk inside it.

00:36:39.540 So, um, so normally when you, you draw geometry, you say you drew two circles and they were intersecting and there would be a place where those circles would meet.

00:36:50.520 But in the crop circle, though, that would be slightly pulled apart so that there would be access to all parts of the interior of the design.

00:37:00.920 So these things are designed for people to spend time in.

00:37:04.080 Um, and, you know, they, I think this is important because the other thing that happens is people's reaction to them.

00:37:13.740 And I think very often it's like, it's very similar to the effect you ever get if you walk in a fantastic Gothic cathedral or maybe an ancient Egyptian temple.

00:37:23.340 Um, and what people don't realize is that, you know, number and geometry, it's actually frozen music because it uses the same kind of intervals, the same kind of, um, um, I say proportions and ratios.

00:37:40.600 Um, and music has a very profound effect on the human psyche.

00:37:44.880 And I think on some level, when you interact with architecture, whether it's, you know, your Gothic cathedral or your 600 foot crop circle, it has a, a subliminal effect that is very, very similar to, to music.

00:38:00.800 And, you know, it can lift the spirit, um, it can, um, you know, cause awe and wonder, you know, it can do all of those, all of those things.

00:38:10.760 And, and it does these things very often without you even realizing it's happening.

00:38:14.880 So, you know, people go in and they think, wow, I'm having this amazing experience and not really kind of understanding all the elements that are, that are actually at play.

00:38:25.740 And maybe that these things are designed to do just that.

00:38:29.800 I mean, the amount of people I met over the years who would say, I've had some of the most amazing conversations I've ever had about life, the universe and everything inside a crop circle with somebody I'd never met before.

00:38:41.500 You know, you know, is, I've heard that story so many times over the years and it's happened to me too.

00:38:47.080 Um, but I think these places, I think these things are designed to evoke exactly that in human beings, to get them thinking about the bigger, the wider, the deeper, and to open our minds.

00:38:58.600 There's a lady named Tanya Harris from the UK, who's done a lot of work on cymatics with buildings.

00:39:04.380 And I actually think of, uh, a lot of buildings as like you just said, uh, frozen, um, music music.

00:39:12.260 Yeah, that's yeah.

00:39:13.240 And so when people go into churches and things like that, and you can even see a lot of the cymatic patterns on windows and things like that inside of churches, there's, there's a natural resonance with the building.

00:39:24.360 And so when people are in it, they have these, it's almost like a healing property and couple that with the harmonies of people singing and interacting with each other.

00:39:32.580 Then there, you can see why these places are spiritual experiences.

00:39:37.000 So do you think that these things are like, uh, giving us some kind of positive spiritual messages?

00:39:42.740 Or do you think that because some people interact with them negatively, do you think that some people might be getting, uh, negative, uh, interaction or negative spiritual messages?

00:39:52.180 I guess you could say, depending on, I'm sorry, depending on like who that person is and what their resonance is and things like that.

00:40:00.280 Exactly. Exactly. You're exactly right. So, so yes, I think on the whole, they are mostly incredibly positive. Um, but I have been in, come across one or two that I've been in and I'm thinking, I feel quite unsettled here. Um, and, and I think that is to do with a, a dissonance rather than a resonance. And that's probably to do with me. Um, so, you know, I think you're not always going to react well to, uh,

00:40:30.280 every, um, situation that you find yourself in geometrically, if you want to call it that. Um, and there have been a couple where I thought, no, this isn't quite sitting okay with me and I just move out. Um, but, but most of the time it's an incredibly positive experience that people have. I mean, sometimes people misinterpret their negative experiences as well.

00:40:54.380 I mean, one of the things that you have to be careful of, of course, is that if you go out in the middle of the field on a sunny day and you've not had a drink or you've not got something to cover your head, you're going to get a headache.

00:41:05.380 Um, and, um, you know, so it sometimes there's a little bit of that to it as well. And also, I mean, we spray chemicals on our fields as well, you know, which is not going to make you feel great.

00:41:17.380 So, um, so yeah, I think you, you know, you just have to take into consider a little bit of common sense, but most of the time that the, the, the experiences with this are really positive.

00:41:29.140 And this is a very, it's kind of, it's a very English thing, I actually think, because it's quite, it's quite genteel. Um, and while, while some of it is in your, is in your face, and I can understand why people find it challenging.

00:41:43.200 Um, and why some people might be frightened by it, um, on, on the whole, it is, it's, it's something that you go to, you're not forced to interact with this.

00:41:53.600 It's something that you choose to interact with. Um, I guess, unless you're a farmer, maybe. Um, but, um, but yeah, I, I think on the whole, this is a very positive thing.

00:42:04.500 And it's, um, yeah, it's something that you're invited to, but you're not forced into.

00:42:09.560 Do you ever, uh, do any form of meditation or praying or anything would, or not just you, but do people normally do that? Is that like a regular thing?

00:42:20.920 Yeah, I think it is because I think, I think when you go in, in one of these formations that a, you want to walk around and have a look and, but then eventually people kind of find a quiet spot for themselves and they just sit and contemplate the whole thing.

00:42:36.680 And, um, you know, uh, you do see people meditating in quiet. It just feels like sometimes it's the right thing to do. Um, it kind of puts you in that frame of mind if you like. Um, so yeah, it is something that people, people do a lot.

00:42:50.820 And I, again, I think this is all part of the, the, the kind of the, the effect on the, the unconscious effect on the psyche, um, that kind of puts you in that, that frame of mind that you feel that you want to sit and quiet yourself and, and just be open to whatever it is that, you know, whatever experience comes.

00:43:10.660 Yeah. Are there, do you ever see any negative interactions? Like if, as if people have gotten the Holy Spirit or something and they're kind of, you know, something is taking control of their bodies and things like that. It might be a weird question, but I feel like when you, when you go to churches and in the South, there's a lot of churches to get the Holy Spirit. And I think it, it has to do with earth energies interacting with people in their willingness to allow something in and sort of take over their body.

00:43:39.160 Yeah. I mean, I, I just think sometimes if you, if you are, as I say, if you are in that open state of mind and, and whatever that, that you do, you do, you are open to whatever comes, you know? So, you know, I think you have to be sensible about it. Um, it doesn't, I don't think I've ever seen a really negative, um, effect on somebody like that. I've seen somebody, I think I've seen people who felt quite nauseous inside a circle.

00:44:08.600 But again, it's so hard to know, is that a little bit of sunstroke? Is it that, you know, that they've been touching the crops and then they've had their hands around their mouth or whatever, you know? So it's, it's very, it's very difficult. And I, I personally, I don't think I've, I've, um, seen that now.

00:44:26.460 I don't, and I want to clarify too. I don't think that the Holy Spirit is a negative experience. I just, yeah, I've, from my experience going to, um, different churches that have, where people have interacted with the Holy Spirit, they sometimes look uncomfortable. Like it's something is uncomfortable in their bodies. They're shaking, they're sweating profusely, that kind of stuff. So yeah, you're right. Just being out in the elements and being around, um, the chemicals and stuff from the crops could, could have an effect on you for sure.

00:44:56.040 Um, do you look at these, uh, places as, do they appear in the, generally in the same spots every summer? Can you, you just know like, oh, they're going to appear in this field or this farm this year?

00:45:09.460 Um, um, yes and no. So let me explain that. So first of all, yes, there are places that do get a lot of circles on a repeat, repetitive basis. Um, but it may be that in a certain area, um, there could be several fields, you know? So it's not one of those situations where you could sort of mount a night watch every summer and know that something would definitely be in that particular field.

00:45:39.440 It doesn't work quite like that. But, um, but, and I mean, obviously the countryside is a big place as well, but there are, there are places like Avery or, um, there's another place called Etchellhampton, um, which is a big hill and there are lots of fields around it.

00:45:56.960 They get a lot, they get a lot, a lot of circles there mostly each year, but it could be in any one of a number of fields around there. So it, it, it is, you can predict to a certain extent, maybe to an area, but, but not to a specific, not to a specific field.

00:46:12.840 Yeah. Um, kind of a, uh, off the wall question, but do you, uh, do you think that these areas are, um, portals to other dimensions or, or do you think that they may be possibly almost like UFO EV charging stations where they come and kind of charge their batteries?

00:46:36.620 And, um, do you have an opinion on any of that, of what they pot, what it possibly could be? Well, I guess I never really asked, what do you think the main, uh, what is your main theory on what they are after looking at this stuff?

00:46:49.280 So for so many years, and then I guess you could answer that next question. Um, well, as I say, I think, I think, I do think that there is some other non-human intelligence that interacts with people in and around these circles. So I definitely think that.

00:47:05.360 Just to get, just to make that clear is what I, that was, I know we've talked about it. There is, there is a, um, extra, uh, energy field interaction, earth geometry, all that stuff. But I wanted to get a very specific answer. I guess you could say, yeah, yeah, that will do it. And, um, do I think they are portals? Um,

00:47:27.560 Like portal markings or door, like, uh, as if they're marking for other, I think, yeah, I think there are places in the landscape, whether it's because of years of human spiritual activity that are where I would say that the veil runs a little thin and, um, and that you are more likely to come into contact with something that we would not expect to see in our world paradigm. Um, and, um,

00:47:57.560 So, yeah, I, I think, you know, I think there are places like natural springs, um, and, um, and places like that, as I said, that have been the concentration of human spiritual activity for thousands of years. And, um, and I, I do think that they are very special places that have a very powerful effect on the psyche. Definitely.

00:48:20.140 Speaking of having that power, uh, special effect on the psyche, you mentioned earlier about the, um, psychology of it, the, you know, with the content with our, from a consciousness level, do you think, I mean, have you heard of the Schumann? I'm assuming you have, you've heard of the Schumann resonance?

00:48:36.500 Oh, yes. Okay. So like, do you think that these things are created by, you know, like, like major events when princess Diana died or, or when there's a world cup or when, you know, there's a,

00:48:50.140 the, the flood in Thailand or whatever the case is like, do you think that these are created by these world events by our connected consciousness on earth?

00:48:59.580 Um, I'm not so sure about that. I think they do respond to things like that though. Um, I, um, I think there seems to be a sense of awareness of that. Um, I think, I think the crop circles are more like a teaching curriculum.

00:49:15.340 Um, I think that, um, that they teach as a, uh, an ancient science, if you like. Um, you talked about your friend that you'd been, um, talking to about Hans Jenny's work on cymatics.

00:49:28.640 And, um, um, I was first introduced to that back in the mid 1990s because I, I saw similarities between many crop circle designs and the designs that were, that were frequently seen in, um, in cymatic experiments.

00:49:43.940 So, um, so I, I think it's, you know, and again, that, that links into the idea of proportion, number, geometry, ratio, and all of that.

00:49:54.040 Those are all part and parcel of that. And of course, geometry is the thing that underpins all matter in the universe.

00:50:00.120 It's the, it's the ordering principle, if you like. Um, so I think we're being reminded of that.

00:50:08.040 And I think that's why very often they happen near our ancient sites because they're drawing a line that they're, they're saying there's something here, which we recognize and value.

00:50:17.760 And we want to, you know, to, um, to show you that. So, um, so I do think, I do think there is that.

00:50:26.440 And you look at the way in which the crop circle geometry has unfolded over the years.

00:50:31.420 So as I say, they started off often as very simple circles and then you would get circles with a, with a ring around, or then you would get five circles that look like the five dots on a dice.

00:50:44.580 Well, there's a geometry to that. And, um, and it was very evident early on that there was some kind of, um, um,

00:50:56.180 you know, geometric curriculum to this. So by the time we got to, let's say 1999, we had our first cube as a crop circle.

00:51:05.440 So the, um, the circle used what we call isometric projection to show a cube.

00:51:11.060 So, um, and then we've had five dimensional images, um, and four dimensional, we've had hypercubes.

00:51:19.500 So there is a, a real geometric kind of curriculum, but there's also been a symbolic curriculum as well.

00:51:28.400 So I think it's, it's really interesting when you, when you draw parallels, certainly between what goes on with, with the crop circles and our ancient megalithic cultures,

00:51:38.620 but then with a culture maybe like ancient Egypt, um, which used symbols in its hieroglyphics that there's a big connection to be made there in the way that this kind of language operates.

00:51:50.040 And I do think it is a language, um, not in the traditional sense that it's a puzzle or a code or that we're being, we're being given blueprints to a time machine or anything like that.

00:51:59.820 I don't think that, but I do think that, that what, what we are being shown is that there is kind of like this universal language that marries that this kind of ancient organizing principle of the universe with perhaps, you know, the culture of whoever is writing or whoever you're speaking to.

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00:53:54.040 So I do, I think it's as sophisticated as that.

00:53:57.400 Yeah.

00:53:57.520 Um, this would assume that we are a lesser intelligent species that would need to be guided and would thus mean that they're like, how come we, we wouldn't know these things intrinsically?

00:54:15.360 Is it being hidden from us or is it like, um, I don't know how, I don't know how to ask this question, I guess you'd say, but like.

00:54:22.160 I think, no, I think I understand what you're getting at here.

00:54:24.640 I think the answer is no.

00:54:26.260 I think, does it, does it necessarily mean that somehow they're better than us?

00:54:30.040 No, I don't think that's, that's necessarily true.

00:54:32.880 I think we're being asked to remember some of this because I think that's the connection to the past is we're being asked to remember it.

00:54:40.120 But I also think there's an element here of needing to be in the right state of consciousness to understand it.

00:54:48.280 So I think, yeah.

00:54:49.420 So I think there's an element of that.

00:54:51.480 And again, what these designs do is that they put you in a slightly different state of consciousness.

00:55:00.480 And, um, and when you sort of do that, when you're looking at the circles, particularly when you're working with them intent, intensely, um, all kinds of things come, you know, um, I had a great mentor for many, many years, um, um, who was my crop circle and geometry mentor.

00:55:19.400 Um, and sadly we lost him in, um, um, in 2020.

00:55:24.220 Um, but, you know, he, he would say, you know, this is an intelligence test, you know, that, um, you know, that the crop circles were, were put on the ground as like toys in the nursery to see what we would make of them.

00:55:37.380 Um, were we going to pass the test and realize that there was something important going on here?

00:55:42.540 And, um, and I think there's an element of that, but I don't think that this is a, this is a language that we wouldn't be able to understand.

00:55:49.680 Otherwise it would be pointless even trying it in the first place.

00:55:53.640 But I think this is like a, like a school of learning to speak, uh, uh, you know, a universal language.

00:56:00.260 But I do think that our state of consciousness is incredibly important in being able to understand it fully.

00:56:07.520 Do you think that our governments of the world know these things and are keeping this information from us potentially?

00:56:18.000 Cause like if we can go to these areas and interact with these earth energies and increase our level of consciousness and awareness and, um, intellect, do you think that they have a vested interest in hiding this stuff from us, so to speak?

00:56:36.900 It's interesting question, isn't it?

00:56:38.940 I mean, I mean, I mean, one has to say to an extent, yes, because, uh, you know, as I said, when the Cropsicles first started to appear and people got really interested in them, I think that started to sound alarm bells.

00:56:52.620 And I just think it's because they don't, they don't know what would happen if it were allowed to go too far and, and whether or not that would present a problem to societal cohesion.

00:57:06.160 So I think, I think the concern is on that level, um, you know, I mean, it's like, you know, we know that governments are very interested in certain cults and sects that, that grow up.

00:57:19.520 They want to know what's going on with them.

00:57:21.440 They worry about societal cohesion with these things.

00:57:24.940 So I think there is definitely that level to it.

00:57:27.560 I think the idea of a non-human intelligence and people interacting with it on a personal level must be quite alarming, you know, because, um, that's when things like being an authority breaks down, who, who, who do people look to, who, who are people going to listen to?

00:57:45.340 So I think, I think there's that, some of that to it too.

00:57:49.100 However, I don't, I don't think it has to be that way.

00:57:51.840 I, I think that, um, whatever this, this, to me, this kind of process of an evolution in consciousness to becoming sort of part of a cosmic, um, society, if you like, I, I don't think it needs to be that frightening.

00:58:12.380 I, it will, I mean, whatever happens, it will happen over a long period of time.

00:58:16.400 It's not going to happen overnight.

00:58:17.520 I don't think we've got, we've got a little way to go yet.

00:58:20.380 And, um, and it could actually be an incredibly positive and transformative thing.

00:58:27.440 Um, and, but I can see why people would be alarmed by that.

00:58:33.860 Um, certainly people who feel it's their responsibility to somehow make sure that society is safe and operates on a, in a safe way.

00:58:43.860 Um, but I think that, you know, I think there are other things that really they should be worried about, um, rather than, than, than this.

00:58:53.360 I, I also think, yes, do they keep it from us, what they know?

00:58:57.540 Yes, I think they do.

00:58:58.840 I, I think there are all sorts of reasons that they might do that.

00:59:01.760 I think a, because they might want to know first before anybody else, um, you know, and again, it's from that, that idea of, of wanting maybe to, to use something and exploit it somehow.

00:59:16.360 Um, you know, you've only got to look at the, the, you know, the experiments that have been done over the years on human consciousness by our own military and, um, intelligence services.

00:59:27.320 So, yes, I, I, I can see why there is a concern there, but I also think that they really shouldn't be as frightened as they are of it.

00:59:39.320 Um, has there been an increase over the last few years in, in crop circles or, um, cause I, I kind of am in the, um, in this camp that we are, the veil is thinning a little bit more.

00:59:54.660 We're going to be seeing more of this stuff. We're going to be interacting with this stuff.

00:59:58.080 Has there been an increase since 2020 in particular?

01:00:01.960 Well, I think that there had been an increase for a long, long time in the crop circles until around 2012.

01:00:08.860 Um, and, um, it seemed to reach a real peak then.

01:00:12.880 And then since then numbers have started to dwindle.

01:00:16.400 So, but I think having said that the circles that we do get are fantastically interesting.

01:00:24.080 And I think if I were to say anything, it would be that it's now about quality rather than quantity.

01:00:30.200 So, um, so there's still, you know, and we've still got years and years of crop circles, you know, to, to go back and work on.

01:00:38.320 I mean, it would keep you busy for a lifetime, just the ones that have already happened that have not yet been worked on.

01:00:45.080 So, um, so there's a, yeah, there's a lot going on, but, um, but yes, numbers have, have dwindled.

01:00:52.600 I mean, this year was a particularly low year.

01:00:55.820 There were all kinds of reasons for that.

01:00:57.780 Some of them, some of it was environmental.

01:00:59.540 Um, we had a, uh, one of the wettest winters on record in the UK last year.

01:01:05.160 And, um, it meant that a lot of the fields were spoiled and, um, they either didn't take properly or the farmers just had to rotate them in because, um, they were, they'd been underwater too long.

01:01:16.340 So there was, so there was some of that going on.

01:01:18.760 And I think maybe that's, you know, we might see a lot more of that, um, in the future, unfortunately.

01:01:25.680 The, the number 2012, um, in at least the circles that I've talked to people, I talked to all the time, seems to be a very interesting year that people sort of started to wake up to a lot of things.

01:01:38.620 That was my awakening year.

01:01:40.440 I were around that time, 2012, 2011.

01:01:43.580 And, you know, there was a, you know, the Mayan calendar end of the end of the world, 2012 kind of thing.

01:01:49.380 Is there any, any interest or thoughts on that of the, the, the, why 2012?

01:01:54.780 I was actually inspect expecting you to say there was an increase in crop circles, not a, not a decrease.

01:02:00.000 Not a decrease.

01:02:01.060 Yeah.

01:02:01.680 Um, 2012 was really interesting for all kinds of reasons, even with the, the sort of the, the last Mayan calendar, if you like it, it kind of coincided with a time where we were coming to the end of a great astronomical year.

01:02:16.500 Um, which is the end of a process.

01:02:19.280 It's about 26 and a half thousand years that we were coming to the end of this age world age.

01:02:25.660 And, um, and in fact, the, one of the last crop circles that summer, um, had, had the number 2160, um, integrated into the geometry of it.

01:02:38.120 And 2160 is the age, the, the, the, the period of time it takes to move from one age of the Zodiac to the next.

01:02:48.420 So, um, so that was really interesting.

01:02:51.900 So there was a reflection of that going on in, in the fields as well as it, as it actually happening.

01:02:58.800 So, um, so I think world ages and, but I think that was also linked into the idea that somehow a new, there is a new world out there that we're birthing at some kind of new paradigm, some kind of new understanding.

01:03:13.580 Um, and I think that's linked to many, many things that I think mostly though, it's linked to the fact that we live in a world or reality, which is much more complicated than we realize.

01:03:24.080 And that we're, that our ancestors may have known much about, but we are now beginning to discover again, um, you know, and that we now got an opportunity to integrate that with also our modern understandings of the world.

01:03:38.620 So I think that's why human beings are much more empowered this time around than maybe they were the last time.

01:03:44.340 So it's, it's very, very, I just think they're, they are incredibly interesting times.

01:03:49.960 And, and necropsicles are just one that they're kind of what I would call one of many transformative phenomena that are happening all over, you know, and people's awareness of these things, you know, whether it's things like people's growing interest again in visionary states, you know, through ayahuasca or, um, DMT, that there's a lot of that going on.

01:04:11.020 There's the, the, the UAP thing, there's, there's this, again, this increasing interest in, um, the mystical landscape, um, um, and of contact with potential non or other than human intelligence, I think is a good way of putting it actually, you know, and that needn't necessarily be ET, that might be some of it, but not necessarily all of it, you know, um, that, you know, there may be whole realms of, um, living systems around us of which we're just not,

01:04:41.020 we're just not aware anymore. And it's almost like we've been through this kind of, we had, I think we had to go through this, you know, I think going through the idea of, of learning, you know, science and the scientific method and all of those ways of investigating the world, that was really important to us as a, as a race, as a species.

01:04:59.820 But now I think we've got the opportunity to sort of come full circle, if you like, and, and now to look at these, um, things again with new eyes, you know, um, um, and, and maybe to find ourselves in, in a new paradigm.

01:05:15.180 Are you hopeful? I mean, do you, do you have, I'm assuming you're a very intuitive person because a lot of people who are in this kind of space naturally kind of feel more connected to energies, earth energies or natural processes.

01:05:28.200 Do you get a sense of something good coming or something bad coming?

01:05:33.020 It's really interesting. I, I, yeah, I hope for the, you know, I hope for the best and, and yet fear the worst as well. It's kind of that one of those situations there, there are a lot of things that are wrong with our, with our world at the moment.

01:05:47.160 You know, there are some terrible things happening and sometimes it feels like we're going backwards rather than going forwards. Um, but I think at, at any point of any change, one of the things that, I mean, if you look at the human being, for instance, we hate change.

01:06:03.980 We're not good at it. It's why a lot of us end up in therapy. You know, it's, you know, we just don't deal with it well. And I, and I think actually as a culture, we don't.

01:06:12.640 So when, when we get to these pivot points, if you like, where our culture is about to change, you find that people hang on for dear life to things that belong to a past age until the last, very last minute with that, you know, tooth and nail, um, before the, before they become washed in the new age, whatever that is.

01:06:35.000 Um, so, you know, um, and I think there are many things in our society that become dysfunctional before then we suddenly, that we don't see at the time.

01:06:45.020 And then suddenly we do see it becomes self-evident. Why couldn't we see that? Well, we weren't ready to see it, you know, um, as a culture. And I think there's a lot of that going on as well.

01:06:55.400 So it, I think when things are about to change, everything does feel very precarious. And I think people are, you know, full of, full of all kinds of anxieties about it and don't really understand why. Um, and I think perhaps that's where we are right now.

01:07:13.720 Do you feel like you were being used as a vessel to convey this information in some way? Uh, you and your husband over, over the years, I'm not saying you're special in any regard.

01:07:25.400 I'm just, no, no, I'm saying like used in a way to help masses understand this kind of information, I guess.

01:07:33.460 I think, I think the way we've always seen it, um, is that we're here for people. So when people discover the crop circles, when they want to know more about them, when they're ready to know more about it, when they've decided that this is something that they want to pursue, that we're here.

01:07:49.780 You know, that we can point them in, in a, in a direction, hopefully for good information. And, um, you know, and yeah, and just, you know, to be there for people when they, they need us for whatever reason.

01:08:03.380 And for many people, crop circles will never touch their lives. It won't be part of whatever transformation they're going through. They may find it in some other way. Um, this is just one way that, that speaks to some people.

01:08:17.760 Um, and when people feel like this is speaking to them, then, then we're here, you know, that's kind of what we do. And, and also to keep an archive of it so that there's a record of as much as we can.

01:08:30.480 Um, because maybe one day, this will be important long after we're gone, you know, for somebody else to come along and, and, and really understand in a completely different and new way.

01:08:40.900 I mean, maybe once all the crop circle shapes have been entered faithfully into an AI, we may, we may learn something tremendous about it. Um, but I think maybe I might be gone by then.

01:08:55.020 Well, hopefully, uh, your work will continue to be around. And what I was asking is, um,

01:09:01.180 do you think that you were kind of called to do this almost the way? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I think that's a really, I think that's a really good way of putting it is to feel called to do it. Yes. And, you know, and I mean, probably like you, I know many people that feel the same way that they feel particularly called to this, that this in particular spoke to them.

01:09:21.280 I remember the first time I ever saw a crop circle. Um, I was, um, in my early twenties and I saw a picture of one in a British newspaper and it was in one of the big broad sheets and it was kind of in the sense,

01:09:33.980 in the sense that it's a really big picture. And I was just absolutely awed by it. And I, and I was just hooked. That was it. I just had to know everything that there was to know about it. You know, that's, it kind of grabs you like that, doesn't it?

01:09:46.680 And, um, so yeah, I think being called to it is a really nice way of putting it.

01:09:52.440 Well, you, you mentioned the historic record and I just wanted to, I looked at some of your art and I just wanted to mention your art before we wrap it up here.

01:10:00.280 Your art is amazing. And if you, if you don't mind, I'd like to show some on the videos on the screen real quick. Um, because I think it was, I think it's absolutely beautiful. And then you actually, you actually document, I don't know if folks out there can see, can you see this?

01:10:15.540 I can see it.

01:10:16.680 Okay. Um, Oh, I'm at the wrong one. There we go. Um, beautiful stuff. And I clicked on this one and I've clicked on a bunch of them just to look through them. And you actually show the process of drawing, you know,

01:10:30.160 these geometrical shapes and designs. And these are from real, um, real crop circles that were, were produced, right. That were produced in the ground.

01:10:40.320 Yeah. That's absolutely right. Yeah.

01:10:42.300 Okay. These are, these are incredible. And for those who are listening, if you want to support her work, please go check these, uh, amazing paintings out. And there's, go to temp, you can go to temporary temples.co.uk and look in the shop for all these paintings.

01:10:57.960 Um, and, um, and there's lots of books and everything on here as well. And photographs that you guys could check out. And, um, I, I wanted to ask about this one though. I saw this one. Was this an actual crop circle or is this like a.

01:11:10.960 No, it was actually a crop circle. Yeah.

01:11:13.360 And it's a door. That's why I was asking about the portal thing earlier. It's like so interesting. Yeah.

01:11:19.200 That's so, that's so fascinating. Um, yeah, but yeah, if you, if you guys want to check out the photo gallery, there's, you can look for, there's an archive of past photos.

01:11:31.280 I'm assuming you and your husband and others, other photographers, I would imagine that contribute to this as well. Yep. Yep.

01:11:38.540 But man, these things are so incredible. These pictures are so incredible and yeah. Amazing. And there's just no way that anybody could naturally do that. I mean, I can't even draw a circle on a piece of paper, much less do it over 900 feet or 500 feet or whatever it is.

01:11:58.600 So. I mean, actually learning, learning to draw the geometry of this gives you a real appreciation, um, for the work of whoever does them because you know, they're really, some of them are very hard to draw on paper. Nevermind hundreds of feet in a field in the dark. Yeah.

01:12:15.140 Yeah, exactly. I was, uh, I'm a painted, uh, I was painting something the other day in my house and just pulling off the tape. When I pulled off the tape after painting, there was like paint all over everything. And I was like, Oh, I got to touch up all these spots.

01:12:27.240 And as I was touching up the spots, I was like doing like zigzag. Like my hand was so shaky and unsteady. So there's no way that these things could be done, um, by humans in some way. I'm sure they, I'm sure they can. I'm sure like practice and all this stuff people could probably do them, but to the scale and the design of them, it's very interesting. And they're always, um, and the reason I asked about the portal thing was because they're always spirals. They're always circular in shape.

01:12:54.740 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's always a spiral element to them. Yep. Yeah. Almost always. Yeah. I mean, you know, yeah.

01:13:02.260 You said it's almost like looking at things from a top view though. So these things would have like four dimensional, five dimensional shapes is what you're saying.

01:13:08.820 Yeah. Yeah. They have like, um, like, so one year we, um, had a, a five dimensional cube and actually what, what the design was, it was like the shadow that would be created in a 3d reality of a 5d cube. It was, it was really beautiful as well. Um, so, so yeah, I mean, some of them are really, um, amazing like that. Um, and again, to me.

01:13:32.820 To me that, you know, obviously there is a geometric element to that, but symbolically speaking to me, that's the idea of there being a wider, deeper reality to which we are not currently aware.

01:13:46.520 Amazing. Amazing stuff. Uh, well, Karen, before we wrap this up, do you have anything else you want to plug or promote, or maybe there's some researchers out there who need some love or, uh, photographers that you want to, you know, plug.

01:13:59.980 So, um, first of all, I just want to say, please go and have a look at our website. Um, the, the archive contains hundreds of pictures. They go all the way back to 1994. So that's 30 years worth of pictures.

01:14:13.680 It's completely free to use. You can, you know, it's an open resource, please go and use it. Um, and, um, you know, if, if you'd like to support us, there are lots of different ways that you can do that, you, which is all on the website. You can have a look at that.

01:14:28.360 Um, and follow us on, on our socials. In the summer, um, we do put pictures out, obviously, of the latest ones that, um, that we're photographing. You can find me on all the normal social media.

01:14:42.380 You just put my name in Karen Alexander or Steve Alexander. You'll find us, um, because our feeds are full of crop circle pictures.

01:14:48.680 Um, and, um, what, who else can I tell you about? Um, let me tell you, um, about my colleague, Gary King, who does do a, um, a crop circle related podcast.

01:15:00.760 It's called against the grain and, um, you can find him on YouTube and on Facebook. Um, he, he's, he's a wonderfully knowledgeable researcher.

01:15:11.020 I've known him many years. We've worked together on lots of different things and his podcast is, is new, but it's really great.

01:15:18.460 Um, and, um, yeah, and just come and interact with us. Um, you know, we do all kinds of things.

01:15:24.200 We have a yearly online conference. Um, I, um, do some courses where I teach people how to draw some of this stuff and to work on some of the shapes using your consciousness.

01:15:35.180 So there are lots and lots of different things to do. If you find that these circles are speaking to you in some way, we're here.

01:15:43.160 All right, Karen, that was a beautiful way to end it and shout out to everyone that you gave a plug to. I have to check that podcast you mentioned out as well.

01:15:50.180 And maybe I can get him on the show or her.

01:15:52.160 Yeah, you really should.

01:15:53.040 Yeah. Him, right. You said it was Gary. Yeah. Okay. Gary King. Gary King. Okay. Yeah. All right. Um, thank you again, Karen, for your time. I really appreciate it. And, uh, hopefully we can have you on again soon.

01:16:04.280 Yeah. Nice to meet you, Brad.

01:16:05.780 Nice to meet you. Take care.

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01:19:53.880 We'll be right back.

Nephilim Death Squad - December 29, 2024

SUNDAY SHARE： Temporary Temples： Crop Circles, Stone Circles, Ancient Geometry, & Non-Human Intelligence w⧸ Karen Alexander

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