Nephilim Death Squad - The Book of Revelation Series Part XIV w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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00:02:10.060 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:02:15.920 Today is Friday, and we are getting back into our Revelation series.

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00:03:07.540 We are welcoming back Ed Mabry.

00:03:10.740 Well, this is the 24th episode, but really there's a couple other episodes.

00:03:14.540 So, Ed, you're like the most prolific guest on Nephilim Death Squad.

00:03:19.160 I think, honestly, we've had the pleasure of sitting down with you.

00:03:21.720 Probably we're brushing like 30 times now, which is very cool.

00:03:24.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:25.120 Yeah, include some of the other stuff we did with – I think the first one we did was like the Speed of Light stuff.

00:03:31.460 This was a great episode.

00:03:32.880 I almost recommend that people, if you're just getting into the Revelation series, maybe find the Speed of Light episode first that we did with Ed.

00:03:40.780 Yeah.

00:03:40.940 And then work your way into the Revelation series because I think it all plays together so nicely.

00:03:45.220 But, Ed, before we get started, just let everybody know where they can find your work.

00:03:49.920 You can find me – the top place to find me is my website, faithbyreason.net.

00:03:54.880 That's where all the stuff I've been doing for years and years is currently.

00:04:01.560 But I would also highly recommend you check out my Patreon.

00:04:05.240 I just started the Patreon earlier this month.

00:04:07.720 I'm getting great responses from the listeners here and from elsewhere that I've been advertising on.

00:04:14.520 In fact, so on that – on the Patreon, you get – for the $5 tier, the red tier, you get stuff.

00:04:21.520 As soon as I release content, I'm releasing it weekly now.

00:04:24.520 I'm keeping myself on a schedule.

00:04:26.620 You get it before everyone else.

00:04:28.440 There's actually something that's coming out next week.

00:04:30.600 I dropped an episode earlier this week, some bonus content because you get bonus exclusive stuff.

00:04:35.240 So I did a bonus content on how to tell false prophets because there's so many people out there now saying that they're prophets and giving their prophetic word for 2025 and putting their theories out there about the end times.

00:04:46.780 And I get a lot of requests from folks about – to comment on things like, you know, like the little season, like Messiah 2030, I have videos on those.

00:04:54.140 But – and I'll continue to do them as I get requests for them.

00:04:57.220 But I thought it was really important to maybe give you guys the rules so that you can look at it yourself and, you know, give the – take the guidance that I give and evaluate everything on your own.

00:05:08.260 So that dropped for my Patreons and also the Q&As.

00:05:12.860 I put out a weekly answer to your questions.

00:05:16.000 And if you go up a tier to the red tier – I'm sure the blue tier, you get all that.

00:05:19.460 Plus you are also – will be a part of the monthly Bible study called Jehovah's Story.

00:05:24.920 And it's where we look at the Bible throughout – we go through it in a year once a month.

00:05:29.280 We have the – the third Sunday of every month is when we have our session.

00:05:32.880 It's an hour, half an hour of review, then another half of – half hour of Q&A.

00:05:37.280 And we look at the Bible from the supernatural point of view, which – so that's how we can get through it in a year because we really focus on that stuff and not as much on what's going on in the realm of man, the Israelite kings and all that.

00:05:47.940 We touch on it, but we really look at what's going on behind the scenes with God, with the Elohim realm.

00:05:52.120 And I want to say, Ed, that I know we mentioned it last episode, but I'm really excited for the Bible study.

00:05:57.840 I've been looking for a good one, and now that I know that you've got one – and it's also starting over February 16th, I believe, is when you said that you're going to start from the beginning of this Bible in the year.

00:06:07.220 So I'm going to be there. I'm sure Top's going to be there.

00:06:09.700 I've already wrangled even my wife and son.

00:06:12.960 So we're looking forward to Bible studies with Ed Mabry the third Sunday of every month.

00:06:18.600 I hope that the fans of the show, all the dangerous retards out there, will join us in this experience. 1.00

00:06:25.140 So very much –

00:06:25.740 I've got a lot of sign-ups from folks from the dangerous retards for MDS, so I appreciate that, guys. 1.00

00:06:31.820 And sign up now because the notes – I'm putting out weekly notes because there's so much information, obviously, to get through, and we're only doing one of these a month.

00:06:39.460 So every week you're going to get some information, the notes just to get you ready to go.

00:06:44.380 And the notes are probably going to be stuff I'm not going to have time to focus on, but it's things that are really important for you to know.

00:06:49.420 So starting next week, everyone who signed up for it will start getting those weekly notes.

00:06:54.440 And, yeah, you get those all throughout.

00:06:56.740 Awesome.

00:06:56.940 And I see you dropped part three of the Genesis series, so I am looking forward to listening to that on audio.

00:07:04.260 I'll probably listen on audio.

00:07:05.620 Yeah, but Patreon's got it a week early.

00:07:07.240 So I dropped it a week before for the Patreons, and I went to public this week.

00:07:11.640 Very cool.

00:07:13.080 Yeah, faithbyreason.net and your Patreon, Ed.

00:07:16.260 These are great resources for people, and something that – I mean, as far as faithbyreason goes, you've been fleshing that out for so long now.

00:07:22.680 So when I say it's a great resource for people that are trying to understand the biblical narrative, get closer to God, and build a community,

00:07:31.200 that Patreon and faithbyreason.net are great tools for doing those things.

00:07:36.120 So really cool to see you fleshing it out.

00:07:38.680 Yeah, thanks.

00:07:39.560 Yeah, and I've been getting people signing up for the Patreon, like, almost daily.

00:07:42.820 So thank you, you know, for your interest in being a part of it.

00:07:46.500 And, yeah, it's the best place to do it.

00:07:48.460 I'm going to probably start putting some of the older stuff I have on faithbyreason.net behind a paywall, not because I want to make it harder to get,

00:07:55.520 but because my website, I really need to do some work on it.

00:07:58.600 I need to get a new web host.

00:08:00.620 My web host right now sucks, and I need to do some things.

00:08:02.960 And so I want to put it someplace where I know it's going to be safe for a while as I start reworking my website.

00:08:10.300 Well, in the meantime, Ed, let's get into this episode.

00:08:14.660 Where are we going today?

00:08:15.660 I know we talked a little bit beforehand, and apparently some ideas we might express here today might ruffle some feathers.

00:08:23.400 So where are we going?

00:08:24.440 So we are going, last time we looked at the physical New Jerusalem.

00:08:30.500 We read through Revelation chapter 21 and a little bit of 22, which really talked about the new heavens and the new earth, the new city of Jerusalem.

00:08:40.380 And one of the things we talked about was the fact that the Bible makes the New Jerusalem heaven kind of vague.

00:08:48.580 You know, it paints with a very broad brush.

00:08:53.020 You know, we'll be happy, there'll be joy, and we'll be in the presence of God, and we'll worship him, and there'll be happiness forever, and so forth and so on.

00:09:00.340 That sounds nice, but eternity, what are we going to be doing?

00:09:05.040 And we discussed the reason, possibly the reason that we don't get as much detail is the same reason, you know, if you're a young child, and we all have young children,

00:09:14.580 if they ask you, hey, how are babies made, you're not going to give them all the vivid details, because they can't handle it.

00:09:20.600 What you're going to say, you know, mommy and daddy love each other, and then a baby starts growing in mommy's belly, and then it pops out.

00:09:26.540 Well, that's all technically true, but again, it's a broad brush.

00:09:30.620 You're not going to sit them down in front of, like, you know, explicit videos.

00:09:33.360 Okay, here's what happens.

00:09:34.560 First, you know, blood flows here, and you insert here, and all this kind of stuff.

00:09:38.320 And I'm taking notes on that.

00:09:39.300 That's a good one.

00:09:40.080 A man and a woman love each other, and then a baby is born.

00:09:42.600 And that's where I'm going to, because my son has been coming in, and I know he thinks it's funny.

00:09:45.820 He must have saw it on a cartoon or something, but he'll just walk up to me, stand there, and go, how are babies made?

00:09:51.500 And I'm like, we'll talk, just in a minute, please, just, we'll talk about it in a minute.

00:09:55.520 Can you just go, let me finish what I'm doing here?

00:09:57.060 And then the whole time I'm thinking, like, how the hell do I explain this to him?

00:09:59.440 So I'm going to start with that.

00:10:00.400 A man and a woman love each other, and then a baby starts to develop in the woman's tummy. 0.69

00:10:04.640 Right.

00:10:05.600 And so that's what I told my eight-year-old.

00:10:07.700 And he was like, okay, I got it.

00:10:09.460 Because, and again, he couldn't handle it.

00:10:11.380 It would be, I mean, it would be dangerous for him.

00:10:13.580 We talked last time about, you know, the first time I was exposed to pornography was by an accident.

00:10:17.780 I just saw a loose piece of a hustler magazine that happened to blow into the yard, and it just, I can still see it.

00:10:25.720 So it was damaging.

00:10:27.340 So my point is that God's not going to reveal anything to us that we're not ready for, and that might be actually harmful.

00:10:32.580 So what things might actually be like in eternity, knowing it now, if we're not ready for it, it would hurt us, and he's not going to do that.

00:10:40.740 That said, I think the more mature you are, I think the more God is willing to reveal to you.

00:10:46.340 There's a passage, and I meant to look it up before I came on, but I was scrambling just to get here on time, roughly.

00:10:52.420 But there's the verse, I forget which one of Paul's epistles it's in, where Paul talks about how he was taken to the third heaven, which is, you know, the heavens where God dwells.

00:11:03.100 And the first heaven is like the sky.

00:11:04.560 The second heaven is either outer space or the spiritual realm where the fallen angels are.

00:11:08.780 Then like the third heaven is where God dwells.

00:11:10.740 He said he was taken to the third heaven, and he saw things that were unlawful for him to reveal.

00:11:15.460 So, but Paul was obviously extremely mature.

00:11:20.140 He's maybe the most mature Christian ever.

00:11:22.640 So God was willing to show him certain things, but he says, I can't even talk about this stuff because it's just, it's beyond.

00:11:28.360 Okay.

00:11:28.620 Yeah, there we go.

00:11:29.380 Second Corinthians.

00:11:30.680 Second Corinthians.

00:11:31.320 I thought it might be Corinthians, but I didn't want to, I didn't want to be wrong on the air.

00:11:35.880 So the point is that God is, everyone can read the Bible.

00:11:40.660 Everyone can read about what the Bible says, but not everyone's ready for it.

00:11:44.080 So what I, what we're going to talk about today is going to be pretty theoretical.

00:11:49.720 And there's some biblical basis for a lot of it, but there's also some that's just deductive reasoning on my part, which could be completely wrong.

00:11:57.000 And some people might not be able to handle it.

00:11:58.980 And if you can't, then don't, I mean, don't worry about it.

00:12:01.180 Because as I said, as I'm telling you, as I said, what I'm going to be revealing or talking about is my opinions and my theories.

00:12:10.240 But I think there's some parts of it that we can trace directly to the Bible.

00:12:12.920 Other things are going to be, yeah, well, we'll see.

00:12:15.700 But it's just me doing some deductive reasoning.

00:12:18.300 We'll get to that.

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00:13:02.880 So where I wanted to start was actually a revelation, no pun intended, that I think I got earlier this week when I was thinking about eternity.

00:13:11.480 And I know it's tough for us to wrap our minds around, us being in linear time.

00:13:15.680 We see, you know, past, present, future.

00:13:17.640 You can only move.

00:13:18.660 It only goes in one direction.

00:13:20.400 You know, you can't go back to the past.

00:13:21.520 You can't go back.

00:13:22.200 You can't go forward into the future.

00:13:23.660 You're, you know, you're in the present.

00:13:25.240 And, you know, we go in that one direction and thinking of eternity, an area where time is different and the sequence of events don't happen the way we're used to, that's tough for us.

00:13:37.200 And, you know, I gave the analogy of a story when we studied Revelation chapter 12.

00:13:43.340 And I proposed that that's how God sees time, is everything happening all at once, everything in the process of happening, like a story.

00:13:54.780 You know, you think about your favorite movie or your favorite book.

00:13:57.600 You can go in and you can see the sequence of events, but you see the whole story at once.

00:14:03.220 But I was talking to John Lenhardt, my friend, our mutual guest on the show, about this.

00:14:12.820 And another area that I think we all experience on a regular basis that I think gives us a lot of insight into eternity are dreams.

00:14:21.460 Think about what your dreams are like.

00:14:24.440 You're, when you're dreaming about something, everything is happening at once.

00:14:28.640 And there's no, there's no time scale.

00:14:31.340 You're, you're in one place and then you're in another place.

00:14:34.300 You know, because I, I had a dream actually last night that my wife and I were at a hotel.

00:14:39.980 We were in, we visited Hawaii last year.

00:14:41.540 We were in that hotel and then we're talking and then I, I turn around and I'm in my backyard barbecuing.

00:14:47.360 And then my son is there and I'm talking to my son about something.

00:14:50.700 And then my high school teacher, my high school history teacher, I'm talking to him.

00:14:55.200 And it's, and it's nothing is, is odd about it.

00:14:58.800 I'm just, you know, you and your dream, everything seems normal, even though all these crazy things are happening.

00:15:02.980 You're outside of time and space.

00:15:04.680 There's no linear time happening in your dream.

00:15:06.500 There's no scale.

00:15:07.320 Things can be big or small.

00:15:08.400 It doesn't matter.

00:15:09.260 And everything is happening at once, but it's also a sequence.

00:15:12.240 So if you think about what it's like when you're dreaming, you are in the present, but there are all kinds of things happening.

00:15:18.300 And you're transversing all these different areas.

00:15:21.020 You're trans, because time and space are meaningless there because it's in your unconscious mind. 1.00

00:15:24.460 Like, because most, you dream and you're unconscious, you're not, obviously you're not conscious and your unconscious mind has no concept of time and space.

00:15:31.880 Everything is happening in the now and you're unconscious.

00:15:34.300 So that is, I think it's another way to maybe visualize what eternity is going to be like.

00:15:39.680 Not a long, long time of thousands, millions of years, but just everything in the process of happening.

00:15:45.000 Just like when you dream.

00:15:46.180 And that could be one of the reasons why, when God recreated the earth, which we talk about in the Genesis, which I'll be getting to in the Genesis series, you know, why is there, why is there a night on our current earth?

00:15:58.900 But there won't be night in the new Jerusalem, which we talked about last week, probably because we won't, we won't need to dream.

00:16:05.820 Maybe those dreams are our, our, our, our connection to eternity.

00:16:10.160 So every night we get an idea of what eternity is going to be like, but when we're in eternity, we don't need a facsimile.

00:16:16.700 So we won't need to sleep and dream because we'll be experiencing it.

00:16:22.260 It's a, it goes to that, uh, the idea of, well, what are, what are these other realms?

00:16:28.760 And I suppose sleeping, uh, can, can transpose you dreaming sometimes can transpose you into another realm.

00:16:35.780 Um, a couple of questions.

00:16:37.520 Like there's, by the way, I apologize if you hear, if there's no ways in the background, there's a guy across the street having his tree cut down.

00:16:43.060 So it's, it's okay.

00:16:44.880 I don't know if you can hear it, but it's loud for me.

00:16:47.040 So, uh, there's a, like, there's, there are people that have astral projected or, uh, yeah, I guess astral projected would be the correct term.

00:16:55.360 And the realm that they go into, they've mentioned being always dark, like never really light.

00:17:02.040 Do you, do you remember this?

00:17:03.140 And, uh, there's a couple of people from Merkle show.

00:17:05.100 So they'll, they'll mess around, go into this realm and they, they describe it as like a, like a sepia toned, kind of like walking dead always, but always darker.

00:17:15.620 They've never been there during the daytime.

00:17:17.320 It's always nighttime.

00:17:18.220 Whenever they go, the way they move around is slightly different.

00:17:21.060 So I guess when you were talking about eternity, it would seem more like that realm rather than this physical realm.

00:17:31.660 Uh, and I don't, yeah, things do get confusing in that regard because a lot of the speculation that I have on like different realms comes from people's testimony and you have to take it with like a grain of salt.

00:17:42.980 But if you start to entertain the idea, like what if this is actually something that this person has experienced, um, and also there's the problem of when patterns start to emerge from one testimony to another.

00:17:53.240 And so, yeah, tops, right.

00:17:54.380 One of the things that we've been hearing a lot of is like, people will go to, honestly, I know it sounds ridiculous on its face, but this, this realm that's akin to the upside down from stranger things.

00:18:05.040 Right.

00:18:05.400 So it's like, you know, that's one of the places people can apparently visit.

00:18:09.080 To the tunes of like hundreds of testimonies of a place that bears resemblance to someplace you're familiar with, but something is uncanny and off and it's void of, of life.

00:18:20.920 There's no people walking around.

00:18:22.560 There's no traffic.

00:18:23.480 There's no, barely any sound either.

00:18:26.520 There's no sound of birds, no sound of bugs, no sound of wind.

00:18:29.940 Sometimes there is like, there's other testimony of people saying, yeah, there was people there.

00:18:34.680 And like, either they didn't notice me or they kind of were aware of me, but didn't really care.

00:18:40.040 Wasn't paying attention.

00:18:41.360 I think that there are layers of realms and we are in one of them.

00:18:46.380 Um, this idea of eternity in heaven is one that people cannot access yet.

00:18:51.440 It is completely locked, but I think the idea of it for at least what we hear in the supernatural community, people should be more familiar with just the idea of what this might be rather than, you know, if you're thinking physically,

00:19:04.420 what we see here, yeah, it's going to, it'll probably have some characteristics, but it's not going to be the same.

00:19:11.660 What these other people have experienced, you know, near-death experiences, things like this, when they go to these parallel dimensions or realms or whatever, I feel like it's going to be a lot more like that.

00:19:21.580 So some of the things that you're probably going to theorize here, we might just agree with you and you might be like, these guys are crazy.

00:19:27.660 I thought this was crazy because throughout this too, like I know we've, we've been really saturated with the idea of the multiverse and that's, uh, in big part.

00:19:39.880 I mean, it's always been a theory, but it, it was popularized by Marvel and once Marvel did it, you could see it like echoed everywhere and like children's shows and everything.

00:19:48.820 I'm not too keen on the idea of the multiverse, like this idea that there's, there's an infinite number of realities where, you know, you deviate from one small decision or another.

00:19:59.720 Yeah. Every decision you make is a different universe.

00:20:02.000 Yeah. And I'm like, I don't, that doesn't resonate with me. What resonates with me is what people are saying.

00:20:06.960 People that are hesitant to share their stories, people that are embarrassed to share these stories, but people that are also relieved to have an outlet, like a show,

00:20:14.880 like Tony Merkel's or something like that, to be able to say these things. It gives me this air of like, this is a genuine person.

00:20:20.480 And so I'm willing to listen to them and all of a sudden patterns emerge. And I don't get the multiverse from these people.

00:20:26.300 I get other strange things, but not that. So I just want to put that out there.

00:20:32.020 Like stuff, like it's all here, but they're layered on top of each other. We're not, uh, we're perceptive of possibly like these, it's very strange.

00:20:42.220 I don't know what to exactly make of it, but yeah, the multiverse I think is nonsense. I don't think we can change timelines per se.

00:20:50.120 I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.

00:20:51.780 That's the other thing too, the multiverse and the timeline thing. They, I'm like, I, it's just not what I'm getting from people.

00:20:57.460 Yeah. I hear a lot of people talk about, um, especially when you get into the world of like manifestation and things like that, they talk about quantum jumping, where you basically jump into this other realm where you are everything you want it to be.

00:21:12.220 You imagine yourself as successful and all these things that you want. And you, and if you do the right practice, you can actually jump into that realm or bring that realm to you or whatever.

00:21:22.540 But the point is, I think what, what is you may be talking about or what they may be talking about are, are, are different dimensions. The multiverse thing.

00:21:29.800 Yeah. I'm not, I'm not buying that infinite dimension things. Cause I mean, that's, that's odd. Um, but different dimensions are, are something that's actually scientific. They're the scientists basically agree.

00:21:43.600 that we live in like 10 dimensions, you know, four of them. We can, we experience, you know, uh, height, uh, height, width, depth, and time.

00:21:53.720 Those are, those are the four dimensions that we can, that we can feel and measure. But then there's, there are other, you know, another, excuse me, six dimensions.

00:22:01.520 that if you talk to a classical physicist they'll say that you know these dimensions that they're

00:22:05.760 they're curled to within a less than a plank's length so we can only infer them and then we're

00:22:10.880 talking about the strong and weak nuclear force like the the the strong nuclear force is what

00:22:15.520 keeps the the protons in an atom from you know because all the protons are positively charged

00:22:21.280 they should repel each other but the protons say the strong nuclear force keeps the protons

00:22:26.400 in a nucleus and the weak nuclear force is what keeps the electron which should collapse into

00:22:30.880 because electron is negative um protons are positive so the electron should go and just

00:22:36.560 like collapse into the proton but the weak nuclear force keeps it orbiting then you have electromagnetism

00:22:42.000 and gravity and some other things but then there are folks who are into string theory and that's

00:22:46.560 where you get into the folks who say these higher dimensions these these higher dimensions are

00:22:50.080 actually possibility dimensions like the fifth dimension is um the ability to see different

00:22:56.720 types of possibilities or in different types of worlds stacked on top of ours so it could be that

00:23:02.320 if these people you're talking about get into a state where they can experience a higher dimension

00:23:07.760 maybe there's their they open their eyes and they see you know a new dimension on top of ours that

00:23:12.800 looks different but but they can really only perceive the three dimensions

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00:23:33.200 oh so there and i get into this by the way and next week i'm dropping um for my patreons a bonus episode

00:23:39.360 on angels and what the what angels are like and one of the things i say is that angels would have to

00:23:45.520 occupy at least 11 dimensions because they are above our physical so they have to experience all 10 of

00:23:51.280 the dimensions that we can experience plus at least one more because they're in the spiritual realm

00:23:55.440 which means that they have perceptions that are so far beyond ours we gave the i think we gave the

00:24:00.480 example either last week or the week before about um you know what we'll be able to see and experience

00:24:05.760 when we're in the in the eternal realm because we'll have you know these resurrected bodies and you know

00:24:11.760 the best way to um kind of visualize what a higher dimension is like is is under is to visualize

00:24:17.440 what it would be like to go from a lower dimension to a higher one so we talked about

00:24:21.680 video games like you know when i was growing up in the 80s you know we had the two-dimensional

00:24:26.000 video games they can only you can only go back and forth up and down but today you have these

00:24:30.160 three-dimensional video games we can do things that are so far beyond you know call of duty or

00:24:34.320 whatever the latest video game is where you can like hide around corners you can go into houses and

00:24:39.360 when you're playing pac-man and donkey kong back in my days there was no going behind anything it was 0.68

00:24:43.200 only two dimensions you could so the it was a it was a flat world whereas the new video games it's

00:24:49.840 like our world you can go anywhere and it's so so the so just going up one dimension is just

00:24:56.480 spectacularly more intense and rich imagine going up even more dimensions so these angels with elohim is

00:25:03.200 actually what they really are angels angels angelos means messenger but these elohim if they occupy 11

00:25:08.160 dimensions they're so far beyond us and but but but but if you when when you're in when you're in the

00:25:15.360 spiritual realm you'll be able to experience more higher dimensions so if the people who you've been

00:25:20.880 talking to are able to experience higher dimensions maybe that's what they're saying they're just seeing

00:25:25.600 you know a dimension on top of ours and it's just so different so wildly different it's as different as

00:25:31.760 a two-dimensional being coming into our world and like i don't get what i'm seeing which is why when

00:25:37.920 you would see people in the bible like like daniel like isaiah like ezekiel when they're describing

00:25:43.520 what they see is the angels it doesn't make sense like ezekiel says you i saw wheels within wheels

00:25:48.880 covered in eyes well again that's a person who can only see three dimensions trying to describe

00:25:53.680 an 11-dimensional being when you see the uh the cherubim who have you know bodies like bulls faces like

00:26:00.080 a man or eagle or a lion and they seem to be shifting all the way around well that's a level that's an

00:26:05.440 11-dimensional creature you see seeing you know the seraphim these you know winged serpents who

00:26:09.920 are flying around who are always saying holy holy holy is the lord god almighty but they're still doing

00:26:14.480 other stuff so they're in a dimension where they can spend all their time praising god but then all

00:26:19.120 their time doing other things while at the same time being a guardian over certain parts of the earth

00:26:23.040 because again they're in a higher dimensional area which is how you know god who would be who would

00:26:28.880 occupy the highest dimension he can be omnipresent that's how he can be with us at all times

00:26:33.840 because i mean i'll say one more thing and i'll let you guys talk if here's another representative

00:26:40.080 of a two-dimensional two-dimensional world and how a three-dimensional person would interact with

00:26:44.080 them take a piece of paper that would be a flat two dimension draw a couple of people on it draw two

00:26:48.000 stick figures on it make them separate they can't touch each other but i can touch each one of them

00:26:54.160 at the same i could put a finger on one or a finger on the other one so i can be closer to them than

00:26:57.520 they could ever be to each other because i occupy a higher dimension so i can interact with them in the

00:27:03.200 ways they can interact with each other so the same thing with spiritual beings with the angels and

00:27:07.600 with jehovah so bring it all back i think these people might be given that you've been talking to

00:27:12.720 have been somehow given insight briefly into higher dimensions and it's yeah it's gonna look different

00:27:18.000 than ours it's gonna be it's gonna be nuts it's interesting though that when uh when it seems that

00:27:24.480 they have to come down to our realm um so we have the prince of persia story where uh the angel was

00:27:30.800 delayed for 21 days yeah yeah three weeks um you know if if he could travel space and time in a

00:27:39.680 different dimension he could just pop wherever he wants but no not the case it he seemed like he was

00:27:44.800 in this dimension and slowed up because he had to physically travel in this dimension somewhere so the

00:27:51.920 the rules are crazy i don't don't understand them exactly yeah they're probably not pumped

00:27:57.600 when they have to come here yeah you know what i mean like if if you are occupying this and then you

00:28:02.720 go to such a restrictive realm where like all of a sudden yeah you have to travel one way or another

00:28:07.760 across giant swaths of land yeah now you're gonna walk i used to drive uh used to drive truck for the mta

00:28:15.920 and every so often they'd be like need you on the tracks and then i got to put my helmet on and i

00:28:21.680 got to walk the tracks and i was like this blows and you don't want to be here into the tracks you

00:28:25.760 know into the tracks yeah yeah i i i don't think that when when an angel materializes here or or comes

00:28:32.640 down to our level he's like this sucks i want to get back to you know where i could be me and i've got 0.74

00:28:36.720 to be in this flesh suit because you know they come down they they they interact like they're they're

00:28:40.880 they're called men in the bible when they come down so they have some assembly of flesh they eat 0.99

00:28:45.680 and drink and obviously we know from from the genesis um six that they have intercourse so they

00:28:50.560 probably like that part but the rest of it well there's a lot of things that we're seeing lately

00:28:55.120 um that are popping up in sort of the the uap space um which you know is this tremendous deception

00:29:01.680 um that narrative in its own but the variation in in things that appear oftentimes it'll seem like living

00:29:08.640 light and i'm just like you know that just strikes me as our inability to perceive like it has to take

00:29:13.920 a form when it gets here it doesn't make a lot of sense to us we can only perceive so many things at

00:29:19.040 once but it's more than that so it comes off as like this odulating pulsing you know uh a ball of

00:29:26.160 light with like sometimes people are discerning faces in these orbs and stuff like that it's like

00:29:31.120 yeah probably aspects of a form that's too complicated to inhabit this realm so we're only catching glimpses

00:29:37.600 of it and it really just looks like odulating light chaos well that's what i think we may have talked

00:29:42.480 about this before but i know i talked about it in in the first couple episodes of the genesis series

00:29:46.320 is that you know the spiritual realm especially just in in episode uh two of the genesis series

00:29:51.440 the spiritual realm is all light that's because that's where god occupies and that's probably all

00:29:55.920 we'd see is like blinding white light and but within that if you were able to perceive more then you

00:30:01.440 could see this more complicated things happening going going on there but yeah it's it's a realm of of

00:30:06.080 just light of energy and like you know the seraphim well actually we in the book of hebrews i think

00:30:11.040 in the first chapter it basically says that um the the spirit that the angels are made of fire

00:30:18.240 and i go i go over this in the um in the in the angel uh uh bonus episode that's going to be up next

00:30:24.320 week that these are beings that are that it says are made out of fire what does that mean it's interesting

00:30:29.040 is one of the people that we communicate with uh somebody who said their own strange testimony

00:30:33.200 interacts with entities and such uh described one of them as being blue and he used to just say being

00:30:39.680 blue but then once you press him a little bit more like tell us the details about it he struggles but

00:30:44.720 it's like kind of like electric fire it kind of sounds like he's describing plasma to me but he's just

00:30:51.920 not sure how to describe it but whatever this thing is it's like made of blue fire i'm like okay that's

00:30:59.120 interesting you know so i'm just this idea of beings made of light um and then you look over

00:31:04.000 to the vedic uh you know uh mythos and their pantheon are almost all blue oh yeah yeah you're

00:31:10.960 right yeah good point there's some sort of correlation there uh some sort of overlap i think but

00:31:16.160 yeah that that perceiving it as as like living fire is yeah that was one of the things it's kind of

00:31:21.280 like these emotions in this in this film you ever seen this movie uh oh yeah yeah i watched it with my

00:31:26.960 kids yeah they it's pretty good i didn't see the second one i saw the first one oh yeah it's a cool

00:31:31.200 movie but if you pay attention to the character design when they close up on the on these characters

00:31:35.600 there's constantly like a matter coming off and like on and off of them they're not particularly

00:31:41.360 solid and uh this is what this guy describes it as this blue guy but he's got this uh some like

00:31:48.640 you know tongues of fire like licks of something coming off of him that is also blue yeah it's it's

00:31:53.360 tough to me yeah you have a people we can only perceive our three dimensions and we're trying 1.00

00:31:56.640 to describe multi-dimensional entities it's it's yeah i mean it's the jinn are described as smokeless

00:32:03.120 fire yeah yeah i mean and look at you know what the book of revelation all stuff we've been covering

00:32:07.920 is just like the apostle john's like i'm doing the best i can to describe this stuff even last week

00:32:12.320 when we were describing the new jerusalem he's like man i okay it's a big old city it's 1500 miles all over

00:32:19.680 and it's all these foundations and it's clear like crystal but it's gold and yeah yeah it's

00:32:25.840 it's a lot uh quick question ed do you know i i mean there's probably no biblical precedence but uh

00:32:32.160 are there like new angels or are they just the same ones like if a a third fell is it just like the

00:32:38.560 same two-thirds that are still there like it would be more um i believe that there's it's going to be

00:32:44.640 that he didn't make any new angels um after the first and and the reason for that and we'll get

00:32:49.600 to this in the genesis series on the seventh day it said when he said it says god rested it wasn't

00:32:53.840 because you know he was like tired what that word actually means he means he ceased his activities of

00:32:58.640 being the first cause he was done creating and he turned that over to humanity he said you guys i'm

00:33:04.000 giving you're made in my image you can go create now i'm done i've done all the creating i'm going to

00:33:08.400 do and it's up to you so the so the next thing that he creates is a new heaven and the new earth he

00:33:14.880 doesn't create anything after that from genesis 3 all the way to revelation 21 god doesn't does not

00:33:22.240 create anything new that's interesting because um i read a testimony one time from somebody who also had

00:33:29.920 like this entity that they were communicating with and you know uh i believe that they were having these

00:33:35.120 experiences but the nature of what the entity was telling them is always up for questions right

00:33:39.600 because these things there are spirits that deceive yep um but it it did tell him something interesting

00:33:45.360 it said that karma is a real system um but god commissioned the angels to build it and because

00:33:54.160 god didn't build it it's not perfect and because it's not perfect over time it degraded and has become

00:33:59.680 a bit of a shit show um and i just thought that that was interesting to say at all you know what

00:34:06.560 i mean because karma is a very like uh new age um system but it's not really new age it's old age right

00:34:14.080 this is this comes from a lot of like you know i think the vedics have a karmic system and so do the

00:34:18.160 egyptians have a karmic system and stuff um and so i look at it and i go like i don't i don't necessarily

00:34:25.360 know what it is but i do recognize that all these ancient civilizations claim that it existed and then

00:34:31.440 for this thing to then tell him oh yeah it exists but god didn't make it um he commissioned the angels

00:34:36.960 to make it so it's not perfect and it's falling apart actively right now and because of that there's

00:34:42.400 like this big i don't know kind of it's it's in chaos right now and all the things that it's supposed

00:34:48.080 to you know you get one energy in you put another energy out that's kind of karma um yeah there's some

00:34:54.320 delays and there's some hiccups and there's some broken apparatus there yeah the way i've always

00:34:58.880 understood karma um and just a very superficial sense it's it's like justice and and justice is

00:35:05.360 is a part of god's nature god is always a completely right and just that is his nature and i i go over

00:35:11.760 that in in the second part of the genesis series which is available for everyone um and everything else

00:35:18.240 is in effect of that the cause is god it's 100 right and 100 just karma if it's there's another

00:35:23.760 system on top of that is i i assume maybe it's if this person is right i'll try to prove them right

00:35:28.320 i don't know but it would it would have to be based on the system of justice where jehovah would have

00:35:33.360 said to the angels the elohims okay the foundation is justice come up with a system um for it for it 0.94

00:35:41.120 to be executed that's like ice that's theoretically possible because one of the things i talk about in

00:35:45.520 the angel series is that there's evidence throughout the bible that uh god enjoys sharing his authority yes

00:35:52.320 you know there's the divine council which i was introduced to by dr michael heiser one of my

00:35:56.320 mentors that you know we see it in the book of uh first kings chapter 22 i believe where you have

00:36:01.920 this the story of how a prophet was taken into the heavens and he saw the divine council where god was

00:36:09.520 said you know ahab who was the evil king he said it's time for ahab to go we're going to get rid of 1.00

00:36:12.880 this guy um how should we do it and his council said it's and he said he saw one spirit say one thing

00:36:18.320 another we talked about this before one spirit said one thing another spirit said another and then

00:36:21.840 one said you know i'll i'll do this thing and god said oh good idea let's make that happen so it's not

00:36:28.240 because god didn't have his own ideas he's like i'm going to share i want to share it with you you

00:36:31.120 know you guys let me know yes what your ideas yeah the idea of like this karmic thing being created by

00:36:36.560 angels or commissioned by god you know to be created by angels i kind of go like well that doesn't

00:36:41.520 not jive because god does seem to take into consideration a lot of the opinions and plans of his

00:36:47.600 creation yeah he does and he put them over pretty certain parts of creation adam and eve were you

00:36:52.800 know were the representatives of earth they god said hey earth is yours dude so he didn't make them

00:36:57.760 he didn't like he didn't have any dictatorial commands he just said you know do what you want

00:37:01.920 to do in the earth you know as long as what you're going to do is good then it'll be fine and

00:37:06.560 that's i guess i kind of bring this back to what we're going to talk about so that's a good segue

00:37:11.920 so about what we're going to be doing for eternity and you know the overarching thing about

00:37:16.880 eternity about the new jerusalem and the new earth is that it's bringing back eden i said before that

00:37:24.240 revelation shows everyone gets what they want and what including god god gets what he wants and what

00:37:29.440 he wanted from the beginning was for human beings to humanity to occupy this physical realm and to make

00:37:37.120 it like eden so he could hang out with us that's what he wanted and he's going to get that so that's

00:37:41.920 what we'll be doing is making the new earth an eden um we'll have authority on it and we i think we

00:37:49.440 talked before about some people being over cities and over nations and that those nations will be

00:37:55.600 be different because i think because all of us are different and people in certain nations

00:38:00.240 in in eternity will have different needs and we kind of hypothesize that there will be different

00:38:06.000 maturity levels so maybe someone will be over a nation of people who you know were maybe maybe pretty

00:38:10.800 young in christ and they need to learn more but then there'll be someone over nations who where

00:38:15.040 people are more mature and they and they have different needs so what i would say to people

00:38:20.960 individually like what what will you be doing individually it's going to be all about your

00:38:25.280 uniqueness whatever your uniqueness is that's who you are that's what you'll be that's what you'll

00:38:31.360 spend eternity doing you'll be doing the thing that you are uniquely designed to do that and if you want

00:38:37.120 to hint about that look in your own life and think about something you could do forever without ever

00:38:42.720 getting tired of it and that brings value to others because that's what you'll be doing we'll be

00:38:48.560 interacting with each other in our uniqueness and bringing that to each other and that's how we'll

00:38:52.640 continue to grow and we'll and as we i think we touched on it two episodes ago so basically you take

00:39:00.800 the thing you love you interact with someone and you get the same from them so you're bringing value to

00:39:05.520 others they're bringing value to you and when let's say for example i'm interacting with with raven in

00:39:10.480 heaven and he's used he used his uniqueness and he i learned something from him or i gained some value

00:39:15.680 from him now i have my uniqueness and i have what i've just gained from him so now i'm i must have a

00:39:21.840 different person but now i have more now i can go to top and say hey top i've got everything that i am

00:39:28.160 i've got something i got from raven i've combined that and made something new out of it i can share that with

00:39:32.160 you now and that can that can literally go on forever because now you have something from me

00:39:38.240 something from from raven through me that's unique from what raven gave to me and i've gave it given

00:39:44.960 it to you and you combine that with what you what you are uniquely and you have a value and you give

00:39:48.960 that to somebody else and let's say i encounter you again like you know a thousand years later

00:39:53.280 and you've gained so much more and you come back to me say ed hey look i have some more value to give to

00:39:58.240 you and you give that to me now and now i've got all that you've learned and all that you've experienced

00:40:02.880 and grown from and stories and all your stories now i've got that and i can go share that with

00:40:07.760 someone else so this can perpetuate and you it will never get old you'll never get tired of it

00:40:13.040 i i had a little glimpse yesterday of like the wisdom of that um in that idea right like that's

00:40:17.760 what you would really want because i was talking to my son and he said something uh he's always asking

00:40:23.200 me like uh would you rather kind of a question right and he goes would you rather um know

00:40:29.840 everything there is to know or have your entire body be strong and then he like also bothered to

00:40:36.400 say it like including your balls and i was like um but i said i would choose for my entire body to be 0.54

00:40:44.240 strong i choose a strong ball yeah yeah the strong balls because uh then there's no there's no mystery

00:40:50.480 left in life there's nothing to pursue there's nothing to learn and you don't get to have those

00:40:55.360 moments anymore like when you learn something new and it's amazing and it connects so many dots for

00:40:59.840 you and that's why he actually showed his wisdom in that moment he said yeah i would choose that too

00:41:05.840 not because your balls would be strong but because your brain is part of your body and i went oh

00:41:11.840 oh okay well done son of raven yeah it's it's why a superman is the the worst superhero in my

00:41:19.520 opinion because it's like boring you find him boring too yeah i find it boring because he's too

00:41:25.040 powerful exactly he's way op i mean the way he's the way he's been written in the past i mean i'm a

00:41:31.600 comic book nerd i grew up on him i don't read him as much now but i when i was growing up i he was

00:41:36.000 like one of my least favorites i didn't like him and i didn't like captain america

00:41:39.040 captain america is not it's physically powerful but he's like he never does he's just like this

00:41:43.600 perfect guy he never does anything wrong he always says all right i'm like he does i was i was more of

00:41:48.000 a batman guy because batman's damaged i can i can relate to to that but superman you know spider-man

00:41:54.960 because he's like a child in many ways and so he's like super good like in his heart but he's kind of a

00:42:01.760 goofball and and you know that so that i always thought that made a more interesting dynamic character

00:42:06.960 we're like yeah superman is just too flat it's too two-dimensional there's nothing going on there

00:42:12.320 the best job done with superman and i will retain this is smallville it was an ongoing series for a

00:42:17.120 long time yeah and i i watched it and you got to know clark kent as like a human being but in the

00:42:23.920 movies and even in the comics i'm just kind of like this dude is just there's no strife there's no

00:42:28.960 struggle so he's he has kryptonite just to make him like relatable exactly yeah yeah yeah so yeah

00:42:38.880 i'm more of a yeah bad man i grew up i was a huge spider-man fan growing up for that same reason

00:42:43.360 because he had he was insecure like you know he had all these powers but he was kind of he was

00:42:46.720 insecure he was always doubting himself like well that's you can relate to that yeah i also was a big

00:42:51.840 fan of the trash talking that's one of the things they did good with spider-man he's constantly

00:42:56.000 talking trash while he's fighting it was like the only one that did that just non-stop him and like

00:43:00.800 they did that with deadpool too but i really enjoyed that but at the heart of spider-man was

00:43:05.920 like that self-sacrifice and that like everything was about being a good guy in the in the purest form

00:43:12.160 and so i always appreciate that about him but yeah if you if you know everything and you you you

00:43:17.040 can do it's like what's there even to look what's more fun it's fun playing grand theft auto with

00:43:22.320 all the cheats on for only like a half an hour and then afterwards you're like please i have to start

00:43:28.080 the game fresh so that i can be handicapped and i can achieve all the things and do all the missions

00:43:32.880 because otherwise the game becomes um hollow shallow and and uninteresting very quickly if you have my

00:43:40.400 my close closest equivalent to that because again i'm not a gamer but back in the day um when i was it

00:43:46.000 was one of my first job well my my first like real job was during the tech boom um back in the early

00:43:51.440 aughts and you know so i was i was doing some i was doing software uh sales and marketing and um

00:43:57.760 the the guy who was our it guy he would they would ask it guys always play this game called doom

00:44:04.400 and he gave me this code and i would always give i would get my ass kicked because i'm just not 0.95

00:44:08.160 good at video games he gave me this code where i could get endless ammunition and like never die

00:44:13.360 and i was like sweet and so it was great like i said for a while but then i got it took me like a day

00:44:17.920 and a half to get all the way to the top level like well okay now what there's no struggle there's

00:44:23.440 no challenge you know things are like breathing fire on me and shooting me but i'm just bouncing

00:44:27.360 off and every time i ran out of ammo i'll put this code in i type a code in and i'm full of you have new

00:44:31.840 ammo i can get any weapon i didn't have to like find weapons i could just get the most powerful weapon

00:44:36.400 at like the at level one and just like torch everything which again like you said it's fun for a

00:44:42.080 while but then yeah the value in there's like so much value in being wrong because as soon as you're

00:44:49.120 wrong and you're proven wrong then it's the first step to being right and that comes with like there's

00:44:53.600 such a reward system that's built within us um you get a dopamine hit it's huge it's huge uh yesterday

00:45:01.040 um we were talking to somebody and we we did an episode uh with somebody from a show called control

00:45:07.840 alt history and he showed us something called the spirit com and the spirit com uh was a device in

00:45:13.520 the 70s and 80s where people were like reliably speaking to spirits on the other side who were

00:45:20.000 giving them intelligible answers and there was an exchange of information and people were coming from

00:45:24.640 far and wide to try to disprove this thing and they were just simply not able to disprove it there was

00:45:29.360 one guy in particular who was um i think pretty what was it top it wasn't like he made it but it was

00:45:36.240 like he was really interested in using it and then this guy goes on to um they they wrote a movie about

00:45:42.480 him 2022 uh this guy started healing people but like doing it spiritually and these are people that

00:45:50.880 were terminally ill and then were not and he was able to discern like oh you've got a a cancerous tumor

00:45:58.160 in you and he would no no medical background at all but he would be able to like cut these people open

00:46:03.440 remove this thing stitch them back up and they'd be totally fine and the way that he knew this was

00:46:08.000 like this spiritual interaction turns out that this is the same guy what was it top what what was the

00:46:14.480 connection that we made yesterday and i was like i couldn't believe it so i mean it's just andreja

00:46:19.600 puharic he was uh he was investigating the spirit com but he was also uh he's like one of these guys

00:46:26.320 that's everywhere he's investigating everything um he was also investigating this guy from brazil name

00:46:32.400 escapes me right now that's that's the doctor that was channeling people right yeah but uh uh

00:46:37.440 puharic was uh had claimed to have manifested the nine or the the council of nine that's what it was

00:46:46.160 yeah because there's there's a satanic cult called oh nine a and it's the order of nine angles but

00:46:52.240 they're a satanic cult and we're like pretty sure it's the order of nine angels and we're looking for

00:46:57.680 this connection right and so what ends up happening is we find out that there is a guy who uh was

00:47:02.960 channeling these spirits and was communicating with uh i forget what the expression is but they

00:47:08.400 were the nine deities well that ruled over egypt we came upon the rule over what egypt okay i mean

00:47:15.600 they ruled over everything they're in old mythology like almost every mythology this like the idea of the

00:47:20.960 nine but his name came up because he was a part of this group of i forget what it was called it's like

00:47:26.240 a global group of nine that makes these huge economic decisions and it just so happened we

00:47:31.120 were talking about with the guest about it like nine being significant and i was trying to find

00:47:36.320 the council of nine i just couldn't think of it at the time and he's like oh there was a you know he's

00:47:40.960 like a german dude or whatever and he's thinking about the name a couple minutes later he gives us

00:47:45.120 buharic and i was like this rings a bell i look him up again this guy said he's he's uh contacted the

00:47:50.880 council of nine which are these nine entities that sit at a table and then you have order of

00:47:56.240 nine angles there's also the documentaries written that that are going to be written about this uh

00:48:01.440 the idea of the nine and these are the same guy that was we were talking about with the spirit com

00:48:06.480 and it was like my first time having heard about him that time and we thought that that was so

00:48:11.920 significant and then all of a sudden this guy brings his name up again and it's like if you could

00:48:16.400 look at it on a grid like synapses connecting right like neurons firing and new uh uh bridges

00:48:22.560 developing new new thought patterns developing like i couldn't you i do this because i love those

00:48:29.440 moments when you get to click something together it hits you like a brick to the forehead but like

00:48:35.680 in the best way possible and um and yeah i mean all of that is gone like i i don't think i think that's

00:48:41.760 a spiritual moment you know what i mean i think that when you have those moments

00:48:46.080 god is like ah there he goes you know what i mean like because it feels so important yeah

00:48:51.760 no and i think that's that that's just show it's what i said at the very beginning i think the more

00:48:56.320 you learn the more mature you i think when god knows what he'll give you what you can handle

00:49:00.240 and i think he delights in that he says hey this guy can handle something i can give him some more

00:49:04.240 because he can handle it just like you know it's like when your kid is growing up when my kid's

00:49:09.040 growing up i love when they when they're able to handle something more we're not you know we learn to ride

00:49:13.680 a bike for the first time i was like yes now we can go biking together and the point is and i think

00:49:18.880 god has that same joy with us when he and that's why i think that he doesn't like christians or anyone

00:49:23.840 else who doesn't want to grow if you don't want to grow because okay well i can't there's nothing i

00:49:26.720 can do for you you just stay right there you just want to you want to be perpetually a child and that's

00:49:31.440 fine if you want to do that but i'm looking for for people who want to grow let me yeah let me ask

00:49:36.000 you the name of the game is the oh sorry tap go ahead yeah no no go ahead dave i'll i'll hold the i was just

00:49:40.480 going to say if the name of the game is is the pursuit of truth right because even like spreading

00:49:44.320 the word and leading people towards christ well christ is the way the truth and the life right

00:49:48.160 so it's like the truth is is the the center component about this and if you're pursuing it

00:49:54.160 it's going to take you to a lot of really crazy places now you could just sit down and go i've seen

00:49:58.960 enough and where i am is enough or you can look at the things that challenge where you think you are

00:50:06.640 in and and where you think you're solidified in and instead of just pushing them away you go okay

00:50:11.360 let's let's see what it is let's look at it and if you can do that it continuously pulls you forward

00:50:16.960 in this like really wild um really uh it's it's peaks and valleys as far as like the emotional roller

00:50:25.520 coaster that this this path takes you on and it's something that you can do because there have been

00:50:31.040 those who have you can do this for your entire life you can yeah you'll never never get to the

00:50:36.560 end of it hey top can i say one thing real quick and i get you in because you just reminded me of

00:50:42.240 something because basically what you said people can stop they can say you know what this is as far

00:50:46.720 as i go i can't go any further and they can stop and i would say most of the time most of the comments

00:50:51.840 i get that are negative towards me are usually people who i can tell and say you know what i'm not

00:50:57.840 going any further you what you're saying is beyond they're not saying this listen what you're saying

00:51:01.760 is beyond me so it sounds like blasphemy which we're going to get to in a few minutes but i just

00:51:05.360 can't go that that much further and i actually had a great moment this week because i had i feel like i

00:51:11.600 got like a crown a feather of my cap someone came onto my site and and accused me of being a show for

00:51:17.840 the elites and i was like yes nice congratulations ed you made it you made it did you hear sam tripling

00:51:24.320 told us we made it too he he was on the i heard that yeah you guys were called controlled

00:51:28.000 opposition yes that's it baby i'm waiting for that that'll be when i'm known if i've reached

00:51:32.720 the top when i'm controlled opposition right now i'm just a shield for the elites

00:51:37.120 that's the next step soon i'll graduate i'm just i'm just a henchman for the elites yeah

00:51:42.800 i said i wish the elites paid better because i mean i i need a raise it's it's it's more of an

00:51:47.440 internship okay it's an internship it's an unpaid internship as a henchman and then if you show some

00:51:52.720 promise and some you know uh ingenuity then maybe you know some opportunity trust me uh

00:51:58.320 controlled opposition doesn't pay so well either but on the point of this idea of like this uh

00:52:04.000 sort of like blasphemy um or or what we're talking about here all right it's gonna be a large tangent

00:52:10.000 that i'm gonna go on but yeah um donald trump is in and he's doing things yeah and and my wife hates

00:52:18.560 him so much i'm like i've got to we have to agree not to talk politics anymore she's just like she is

00:52:23.360 not on on the trump train but anyway go ahead well she's probably sensing some weird stuff that which

00:52:28.240 like i like a lot of what he's doing but like some of the things he's doing so all right we're clearly

00:52:32.560 moving toward uh you know and end times which says that there needs to be a one world government and

00:52:38.000 that's like you know one one monetary system that's coming uh at the same so he's done this weird

00:52:45.200 thing where he's embracing cryptocurrency and then he signs an executive order that says uh

00:52:51.760 we're shutting down central bank digital currency cbdcs which are which what most of us were looking

00:52:57.760 at as the one world currency right that you can control what you buy and sell he says that'll never

00:53:04.560 happen i'm shutting it down but on the other side he's embracing cryptocurrency and to me there's

00:53:09.600 really no difference you can slide the dollar into whichever compatible cryptocurrency and create a

00:53:16.240 one world currency that that's what i think yeah it's just privatizing yeah it's uh it's the same

00:53:21.600 thing like you're saying it's a sleight of hand now um you know we have people like there's this guy

00:53:26.080 derek brose he's an idiot there's another one uh whitney webb she's like great information i just don't 0.99

00:53:33.280 she's good she freaks me out yeah because she's a black pill and i like i actually just commented 1.00

00:53:38.720 before we came on here derek brose is talking about whatever whatever oh i have this property

00:53:43.120 and i said yeah where's your kids like any kids planned no because you're giving the people black 0.68

00:53:49.680 pills saying this is bad and yes it is bad this this idea of this like you know switch to cryptocurrency

00:53:55.760 from a physical dollar is bad but you're not giving them a solution and i'm like i suspect that this

00:54:02.000 cryptocurrency that they're going to use might be xrp or ripple like it's something that they were

00:54:06.480 talking about for a long time and i had it they almost banned it i sold thousands of thousands

00:54:11.760 of dollars in it and now i'm just re-divesting back into it and they're like everyone's so worried

00:54:17.760 about saying oh this is bad this is you know and and times and this and i'm like yeah yeah yeah but god

00:54:24.640 is giving us some kind of insight into what's coming we know it's coming for sure and i'm speculating

00:54:31.520 on how they're gonna do it is it wrong to position myself in a way where i'm like hey listen if you

00:54:38.480 want to change this into a one world currency i'm going to be heavily divested in it so i don't have

00:54:43.360 to suffer stupidly because you've given me all the signs and signals this is what you're doing and it's 0.60

00:54:48.320 pretty much a done deal that it's going to be used on this crypto or possible listen it could be another

00:54:53.040 but i you know is i'm arguing with people who are christians they're saying well you're not supposed to

00:54:58.800 do like you're not supposed to take part in this world and i'm like well do you use you're telling

00:55:04.080 me this on a cell phone yeah you know exactly and also a social media company that's owned by the

00:55:08.240 guy who's rolling out the mark look it's like is it wrong though like you know no i i don't think

00:55:14.320 what's wrong is taking the mark in your hand or forehead right and it's like we as long as you're

00:55:20.160 going into this um cautiously and you're asking you know god to align your will with his will and and

00:55:27.920 you're because i do think it's like we've talked about this before red no man knows like the the

00:55:32.800 day or the hour but like man if you're paying attention there are so many signs yeah i mean

00:55:38.480 he said you don't know the day of the hour but he says in that same verse you'll know when the time

00:55:41.520 is near even at the door yeah you'll know when i'm right there day or hour doesn't mean that you

00:55:46.640 don't know the the year and i'm not i don't date set at all but you're going to know i mean the apostle

00:55:51.200 paul says that apostle paul says in in the things in the second first or second thessalonians that you

00:55:57.360 know that you know you're not children she says no that day will overtake them as a thief but as a

00:56:03.440 thief in the night he said but you are not children of the night you are of the day so paul is basically

00:56:07.600 saying the people who are who are not in the light they'll they're going to be surprised but he said

00:56:12.560 you're in the light you're going to know so if you're a christian paul is basically telling you

00:56:16.240 you're going to know when things are happening and let me just let me tell the people i'm going to tell

00:56:20.720 the people that that are uh saying this stuff like because it's almost like part of me is like yeah am i am i

00:56:26.240 am i participating in the b system i'm like i suppose we all are but at to what level well i know

00:56:31.920 somebody and uh you know i'm not going to say his name but the guy worked a couple of jobs he had some

00:56:38.240 extra money during the time of covet and when the the v rolled around he had enough extra money to go

00:56:44.640 and get him and his wife i believe uh you know a legitimate fake card because he had extra money and he

00:56:54.000 saw it coming down the pipe i was like oh interesting so now this person can survive

00:56:57.600 within this system somewhat and he's moving around he's going to restaurants and things like this

00:57:02.080 and it's like he saw it coming and he positioned himself well and he survived it and i'm like are

00:57:09.120 we supposed to do this like if we're gonna have to go through stuff like should we position ourselves

00:57:13.680 well or should i just complain and then suffer later i don't know yeah i think well my answer my short

00:57:19.520 answer is it is not wrong to buy xrp if it is then i'm wrong because the only thing i regret i i bought

00:57:25.520 some like uh i started buying it a couple years ago my only regret is that i didn't buy more that's all

00:57:30.960 i regret now is seeing it skyrocket because i was told actually i think i was it was maybe a maybe

00:57:35.840 was triple e show i was listening to maybe with sam show he had some guy on there who said that

00:57:40.000 you know the the in that that xrp is is is almost literally nsa money that's what they're going to be

00:57:45.920 using i'll say well i want to get into that and i couldn't buy it in america it was i think it was

00:57:48.960 still banned um at that time and i had to i had to use an exchange an overseas exchange which was

00:57:53.520 so many hurdles to jump through to get in i was buying it on coinbase when it was legal then they

00:57:59.120 made it illegal okay yeah and i had to just liquidate yeah because i was like they could go

00:58:03.200 to zero it could very well go to zero and i'm just out thousands of dollars so but whatever i lost

00:58:08.640 so so the point is that what raven was saying that the mark of the beast is not about economics

00:58:13.200 that's an effect the cause is worship now if now if i want to buy some xrp and some uh something

00:58:19.760 pops up and says declare your allegiance to whoever i'm like okay i guess i'm not buying xrp now because

00:58:23.760 i'm not doing that but right now it's just i i get it i mean i'm on i think what my crypto.com one of

00:58:29.200 those i just i can buy it it's legal to buy there now and i like i said my only regret is i didn't buy

00:58:34.320 more but it was at 50 cents you know i i'm just kicking myself for not you know putting a few more

00:58:40.240 granted to it because i i didn't know and i don't i don't know crypto that well um so i just put up

00:58:45.520 i said here's some money that i'm i'm if i lose it i'm not gonna freak out so that's how much money

00:58:50.240 i put into it and it's now i'm like holy crap if i had but now you know what i put every time it dips

00:58:56.160 i buy a little more i mean i think one of your listeners actually contacted me um and said hey ed

00:59:01.520 buy some xrp because he he didn't tell me why he exactly what he why his reasoning was but he felt that it

00:59:08.640 was something that he had reasons he wasn't a long conversation no and i said yeah i'll buy some

00:59:13.760 more i'm pretty sure he hit me up and he said he had a dream and i was like good enough for me baby

00:59:18.720 that's that's how i operate we're gonna get listen i i will say here i'm not a crypto guy but i've

00:59:23.920 been investing in specifically xrp and i have bitcoin as well but xrp was one of them that i wish i didn't

00:59:29.920 get spooked out and honestly looking back it seems like they did it on purpose they spooked a lot of

00:59:34.240 people out of it because it was unavailable in the united states you couldn't buy it off of most of

00:59:38.720 uh most of these crypto exchanges and i was like i better get out but like like thinking about it

00:59:43.760 now i was like it was a couple thousand like it wouldn't have even bothered because it's kind of

00:59:47.120 it's just money that's i'm still saving i should have left it but hey man good on you uh lizard people

00:59:53.120 they spook you out then they buy more of it in order to so that they have the majority but listen when

00:59:58.720 when the time comes yeah i'm i'm hoping when the time comes and this thing is worth a lot of money

01:00:03.600 it's not necessarily because i can live luxuriously it's so that i will be ahead of the game and maybe

01:00:08.880 i can use this money so that i don't have to participate as much in the awful things that

01:00:14.080 they probably will want us to do exactly i mean and it's it's gonna it's gonna dip again big i'm

01:00:19.200 pretty sure something's gonna dip hard because i think it's they're playing the game they're getting

01:00:23.120 people jazzed up for it now they're gonna buy then they're gonna just gonna dip people everyone's

01:00:26.720 gonna sell and then the big institutions are gonna buy it up again so i'm just buy the dip but anyway

01:00:31.840 um getting back to what we're talking about before you because you mentioned you know blasphemy so

01:00:37.120 here's my first blasphemous statement going back to what we're saying about how we're going to be

01:00:41.280 learning from each other for eternity guess who else is going to be learning for eternity god

01:00:47.840 god can't learn yes he can god when people say well god knows everything god knows everything that

01:00:54.000 exists god has all the information that currently exists he does not have information that doesn't exist and

01:01:01.040 that does not diminish god it actually is logical how can god have information that doesn't exist if

01:01:06.560 it doesn't exist no one can have it god doesn't have it so that's why we'll see we see several

01:01:12.080 places in the bible where god doesn't know what someone's going to do until they do it famous example

01:01:18.080 abraham when god told him to go sacrifice your son isaac abraham goes up there he has a knife about

01:01:23.200 to plunge it into him and god and he's got an angel to stop him and then god says abraham now i know that

01:01:30.080 you would not withhold your son from me which means that before that he didn't know but that makes

01:01:34.560 sense because abraham is a being of free will like we all are if we're truly beings of free will then

01:01:39.280 that means that god can't know every decision we're going to make until we make it he can know our

01:01:42.960 tendencies and he can have a you know a good idea of what we're going to do in the macro but he doesn't

01:01:48.160 know every single thing we're going to do because we haven't done it yet we can change our minds so you're

01:01:52.960 saying we retain free will in uh okay that's an important one yeah we will we retain free will but

01:01:59.440 as we're learning from each other we're we're getting new information and god will get to know

01:02:05.520 that new information so he will be learning new things that's why he wants us to be a part of this

01:02:11.920 world because like if we go back in time to before god created anything was god lacking anything no god he

01:02:19.200 was perfect he was complete so why did he create this world and us and angels well if you have

01:02:25.920 everything if you if you if you're complete what could you possibly want more of what you already

01:02:31.120 have if you look at the trinity they were in perfect union father son holy spirit eternally perfect

01:02:37.360 in union if you have three and this is going to get into my crazy theory if you have three entities

01:02:43.040 that are in perfect fellowship what could what what could you do to expand that well add a fourth

01:02:49.120 person at the bride so now you have father son holy spirit and bride which is us this uh it also goes

01:02:56.320 back to that uh the verse that we were talking about um and it repented the lord that he had made man

01:03:03.680 on the earth and it gripped him at his heart um you think maybe one of god's mistakes was not giving

01:03:10.560 the angels free will because that's this is what kind of caused this right yeah you're actually

01:03:15.520 getting to what i'm going to be um talking about in episode four or five of the genesis series

01:03:23.680 was it was it a mistake no not mistaken in the sense that he did something wrong

01:03:28.560 what he did was he i think what god was doing was the same thing that he with the angels it's the same

01:03:33.760 thing he does with us which is i'll give you these things will you will you walk with me so he get he

01:03:42.000 so when he starts with the angels he says i'm you guys will know everything you're going to see

01:03:47.520 things in 11 dimensions you're going to see things the way i see things and they obviously rebelled

01:03:54.880 so god says okay well the next thing i create i can't make i i've got it and they can't repent

01:03:59.760 this is why angels can't repent i get this question a lot you know and you guys may even

01:04:03.920 ask why can't the nephilim repent why can't a fallen angel say hey god i was wrong when i fell

01:04:08.480 because it wasn't a mistake they did it with full knowledge they knew all the ramifications of what

01:04:14.480 they did when i do something wrong i know some of the ramifications let's say if i lie to my boss at

01:04:21.520 work i know some of the ramifications in the physical realm i don't know all the 10 11 dimensional

01:04:28.320 ramifications so i can repent i can say hey god i made a mistake i didn't know okay i can forgive

01:04:35.360 you for that because you didn't know angels can't say that because everything they do they do with full

01:04:40.080 intent and full knowledge there's no room for repentance because repentance meaning turns turn

01:04:45.120 away from what you did admitting you're wrong they they don't have to admit they they knew they were

01:04:50.880 from the wrong from the beginning if you look at the book of enoch when the angels who fell

01:04:55.680 they you know before they fell the their leader simiaja says to the other ones hey you know we

01:05:01.280 need to make a pact together because we're gonna we're about to do some seriously bad stuff and i

01:05:05.760 don't want to be in this by myself let's make a pact and they said yeah we'll make the pact so before they

01:05:11.600 even had intercourse with women they knew that what they were doing was terrible that's why they can't 0.91

01:05:17.760 repent because they can't say hey god i'm sorry no you're not sorry you did it with full intention

01:05:22.720 with full knowledge of all the ramifications they made a contract with each other right so there's

01:05:29.280 no room for repentance so i think the next time god said well if i make another being this that's

01:05:34.960 that's not perfect they're gonna screw up so i need to make sure that there's room for forgiveness

01:05:39.280 so i cannot give them full knowledge like i gave the angels in the beginning otherwise i won't be able

01:05:44.800 to redeem them when they inevitably screw up it's also the story i mean i guess the idea of god

01:05:51.200 learning is his uh continual grace and not just continual but like expanding grace from the

01:05:58.320 beginning of the bible all the way to jesus where he's like all right well this you know like he's

01:06:03.120 he's got to continually up the ante for like how we can be forgiven because he didn't i guess he didn't

01:06:09.680 know how stupid yeah i think he probably i think he has a knowledge of how stupid we'd be but he but 0.88

01:06:17.120 it hadn't happened yet so he said okay well i'm gonna i'm gonna put him on there and just see if

01:06:20.960 they're gonna meet or exceed my levels of stupidity that i that i've already like outlined for them

01:06:25.280 i'm sure we've exceeded it we've exceeded expectations yes we have always above and beyond

01:06:30.960 yeah something that i wanted to um address i'm sorry to interrupt but this is something that i wanted to

01:06:36.080 address somebody said this to me the other day or said maybe said it to somebody else i don't know if

01:06:39.760 they said it to me but it was like this idea that god is is um so powerful and and all-knowing and all

01:06:46.160 this other stuff that he ends up uh giving his only begotten son in basically as a way to clear the

01:06:55.120 path for us and and offer us a path to redemption and why would he have to do such a thing if he's all

01:07:01.600 powerful why does he have to send somebody to die and suffer um for him and and i kind of just went

01:07:08.160 like if you built an entire you know you take the fundamental aspects of an entire universe down to

01:07:15.440 like the the things that you know are at its foundation and then you manipulate that and you

01:07:20.080 create all of these amazing things you create entities and you create you know lands and and you

01:07:25.840 know there's this entire spiritual realm and everything um and then you look over to what

01:07:31.520 the other side is doing the the bad side it's like how do they manipulate this realm it's like almost

01:07:38.640 like an alchemical process there's there's ritual there's ceremony there's sacrifice there's an

01:07:43.600 energetic exchange there's geometry to it there's all these things that they have to do they seemingly

01:07:50.160 can manipulate but that's the process by which they do it so it's like i just don't think it's that

01:07:56.800 much of a stretch that god would create all these things and then it's like he knows how to manipulate

01:08:02.560 his own he knows how to take the fundamental building blocks of this realm and change them

01:08:08.960 augment them alchemically you know alter what we have here and so i don't think it's a it's a

01:08:15.440 i don't think it's a coincidence that the way in which it happens includes a lot of those same

01:08:22.000 aspects there's like there's ceremony there's ritual there's sacrifice we no longer have to

01:08:26.480 sacrifice those days are behind us but a big sacrifice was made on behalf of us right and so

01:08:33.200 i i to me i just i just wanted to say i don't think that diminishes the power that god has to me it

01:08:39.200 just says he has intimate knowledge of how this realm works because he created it and so he knows exactly

01:08:44.480 how to intervene on behalf of us and exactly how to create a new path for us right um it's like if

01:08:49.440 you had you know i think simulation theory is very gay but if you had some grand programmer and it's like 0.55

01:08:57.760 well what method would he use to alter his program he would create a program he would go through the

01:09:04.080 normal channels even though he created it and he's all knowing and all seeing and he knows exactly what's

01:09:09.360 in this program he would use the pathways that another programmer would use to alter the reality

01:09:16.560 of the program that he's created you know what it's yeah i just i just wanted to say that because it's

01:09:19.840 been like kind of you know i couldn't figure out how to type it out into words so i just kind of like

01:09:24.400 left it and you know maybe not always best to argue with strangers on twitter but i could see how on

01:09:30.000 its face that you think that's a wise question but the answer is like right in front of you it's like he

01:09:36.480 has an intimate knowledge of the workings of his own creation thereby he knows exactly how to alter

01:09:43.520 it and i think that's exactly what happened there and not only do you need further evidence of that

01:09:48.640 just look over to the negative side they're doing the same thing they're just doing it for the wrong

01:09:52.240 reasons not only that but keep in mind that everything he created just like that programmer

01:09:55.840 you mentioned in your analogy he's going to do it according to his nature how whatever his thoughts

01:10:00.720 are he's going to put that into his program god does the same thing we said before god is

01:10:04.800 always a completely right and just so everything has to work according to righteousness and justice

01:10:09.440 so why did jesus have to die justice justice says that things have to equal out man committed a sin

01:10:16.160 so we were up here man comes down here so what has to happen so in order things have to equal out he

01:10:22.320 has to come up here how does he come up here someone else has to give something up he's down here so

01:10:28.160 has to give something up to raise him back jesus had to die in order for justice to be served

01:10:35.440 man deserved to die for sin we all deserve to die for our sin so some so the only way to balance that

01:10:41.040 out is to have someone who has never sinned die for us and put and give us their innocence yeah but

01:10:47.200 again as we talked about before because jesus didn't deserve to die justice stated that god had to give him

01:10:52.320 back his life and give him back infinite life because he showed he would never sin and he can

01:10:59.680 give that infinite life to us and that's what salvation is jesus was showed that he would never

01:11:03.760 sin the devil came to tempt him and that and jesus passed and the devil said stated his will i'm out of

01:11:08.960 here i'm never going to tempt this guy again then he sent his minions of pharisees and the pharisees

01:11:13.440 tried and they failed and they said that we're never going to we're done we're never going to question

01:11:17.440 this guy again we're just going to kill him so he showed that neither the spiritual realm nor

01:11:22.080 no one in the spiritual realm or the physical realm would ever get him to sin so he he should

01:11:26.080 have lived forever he had infinite life his life was taken from him unjustly so god being the god of

01:11:31.440 justice had to give him back all the life infinite life and this is it since it's infinite he could give

01:11:36.720 it to as many people as would accept his gift and that's what salvation is that's that's what those are

01:11:41.040 the mechanics of salvation it it sounds um so you know what like a really sorry about that a really

01:11:48.160 reductive um explanation of that would be like you know to go back to grand theft auto we used that as

01:11:54.080 an analogy before and it's like you know there is a way in which the the game works but as a user

01:12:02.800 you become keen to like some of the ways in which you could alter the game right left down right up left

01:12:07.280 down right up l1 l2 r1 r2 whatever it is and then it's an infinite money hack now that's a very simple

01:12:15.040 game and it's a very simple way to hijack the game but you imagine this is the most complex creation

01:12:22.400 full stop and so if there was a way to alter it well it would be equally as complex maybe it would take

01:12:30.240 an entire you know 33 years of a man's life and going through this process and fulfilling prophecy

01:12:37.520 that's like you know it's not just going to be a simple uh jesus stands there and faces left faces

01:12:42.640 right faces up faces down you know what i mean like it's not going to be that kind of a situation

01:12:46.240 there's this is a much grander realm than the ones that we're accustomed to and so yeah it's i think it's

01:12:52.880 the same thing it's like there are ways to alter the realm like whatever happened there with with

01:12:57.520 with the death death and resurrection of christ you know the spiritual implications the spiritual echoes

01:13:04.000 right it's like that idea of like speaking something and it exists pretty rapidly in the

01:13:07.520 spiritual realm and then takes a while to manifest here in the physical realm it's like the implications

01:13:12.560 of that moment in time change the fabric of the spiritual realm definitively change the fabric of the

01:13:18.240 spiritual realm yeah it physically tore the veil right yeah yeah it had ramifications that no one

01:13:25.920 in the spiritual realm even i don't even i don't believe that even the angels i think they were

01:13:31.200 surprised they didn't know what was happening i think they were watching like god what are you doing

01:13:34.240 why did you how jesus dying and what do you and then oh that's what you that oh good job all right

01:13:42.640 so i want to get to the i know we're over an hour i want to get to my to my my blasphemy okay

01:13:48.880 start getting some reactions to it so here it is my idea what because i mean all the sharing sharing

01:13:55.600 value and growing that all sounds great but what else are we going to be doing so here here's my thought

01:14:01.280 and my basis for this is the deductive reasoning of what god has wanted from us and what god what

01:14:09.280 he wants us to experience the whole point of everything is god wants us to experience him he

01:14:15.440 wants us to know him intimately how do you know someone intimately you experience what they experience

01:14:23.920 so what what would be the ultimate way to experience what god experienced if it's to do

01:14:30.160 everything that god did so if that's the case what if at some point in eternity we are allowed to

01:14:39.840 basically do what god did from the beginning what if part of the authority that we're given

01:14:46.640 is to create we have the ability to create we're you know adam and he made the image of god we'll have

01:14:52.400 that image back we can create what if we what if god says i'm going to let you have have your own earth

01:15:02.960 you're going to be you're going to be in genesis verse one you get to create your own life

01:15:09.840 you will be that hold on i know i know i know i know you create your own life

01:15:14.480 you watch that life fail but you love that life so much you have to you you're going to experience

01:15:23.920 all the frustration all the highs and lows the joys all their stories and they're going to break your

01:15:28.880 heart just the same way you guys broke my heart you're going to intimately know that you might have to

01:15:35.520 have actually even die for them that's the idea of like when you have a kid and you're like i want

01:15:43.440 it's like i want my kids to have kids not just to extend my lineage that's like i don't i mean i do

01:15:49.280 care about it but i'm not going to see it i want to see them uh figure this out you know because there's

01:15:55.760 a lot of growth there's a lot of frustration in this and i'm sure my parents are watching me now do it and

01:16:00.960 they're like yeah remember that that was that was awful you haven't slept in how long you know that

01:16:06.480 but you need that to grow and your brain needs to be like damaged to then like understand what's going

01:16:12.960 on and that's that's why grandparents are so giddy they they are the most nicely cruel people on earth

01:16:20.080 because my my my mother and dad they look at me and they're like yeah you go through the same thing

01:16:24.240 i went through oh i that's why i love my grandkids so much because they are just torturing you the way

01:16:28.080 you tortured me but they get to see the story from the outside but then it kind of begs the

01:16:35.120 question of like man it's it's what if what if this is it it leads to this idea of what if yes and what

01:16:43.040 if this has happened many times and what if we are on a planet of one of these yeah and this god is just

01:16:49.920 ed but ed was well that's so i mean there's no other way let me get you one more thing right because

01:16:56.480 here's the blasphemous part about it because or three people the reason people might see it's

01:17:00.880 blasphemous because it actually mirrors some of the eschatology of mormonism and i acknowledge that

01:17:06.080 because mormons do believe that when you die they believe that our current god that which they call

01:17:11.040 elohim was on another planet and he grew and he started started us and so and that when they die 0.98

01:17:21.120 mormons believe they're going to get their own planet and so i know what i'm saying sounds a bit like 0.73

01:17:24.720 that so i acknowledge it but my point is that and i think we've talked about this before

01:17:31.520 there's truth is out there but it's truth can be corrupted so just because something is is being

01:17:38.400 corrupted by people or groups who are under influence of you know bad entities doesn't mean that the core

01:17:45.520 of it is wrong we talked about this with crystals i i mentioned i think last time that i have these

01:17:50.160 these this like crystal pyramid by my bed because it absorbs electromagnetic uh you know if um efm

01:17:55.440 electromagnetic radiation or whatever and it's you know it's it's good for you so i'm not worshiping

01:18:00.160 the crystal but the crystal has those properties of absorbing emfs so that's a good thing now someone

01:18:05.760 could take that and say oh you should worship the crystal and you can do all these different things

01:18:08.880 with it you take it and you can already here and you can put it in your body yep there you go right

01:18:13.120 it's so funny you have your your bag of crystal crackers it's crystal meth so honestly now what if

01:18:20.240 the mormons i'll let you go what if what if the mormons had occurred what is it's a kernel of truth

01:18:25.840 in that that was corrupted but that's actually that's there's some actual truth to it so it's out

01:18:31.120 there but go ahead it's it is an extra biblical text right so if we're reading the book of enoch in

01:18:35.600 that manner we might as well give some uh thought to that but that i mean what would you want when

01:18:40.800 you go to like i'm thinking you're like you'd be able to do what you wanted like what you really

01:18:44.960 love forever so like right now i'm gonna go after this show or after the next show we do i'm gonna um

01:18:51.840 i'm gonna draw a t-shirt for alex jones because i really like designing and creating and the idea

01:18:57.040 that oh people are gonna wear this but i did that for a long time and then i'm like i'm gonna do some

01:19:01.120 podcasting and i like this and this is like what i like to do and i'm sure soon my interests will

01:19:07.280 evolve so that's not going to be good enough if i could have my own world to do this experiment

01:19:13.840 because the experiment is endless there's an infinite amount of things and people going on

01:19:18.480 it's fast it'll keep you busy for an eternity yeah and you like make your own bible make your own

01:19:25.520 story it's the sims isn't it the sims exactly and and aren't we used to it already with with

01:19:31.520 with the sims with minecraft it's like our minds are already going there there's i think i talked

01:19:36.560 about the movie before like the it's called the 13th floor where these people make a simulation

01:19:43.360 a simulate like an ai simulated world and they're able to go into that world and when they go into

01:19:48.640 that world and they come out they they realize that the twist at the end of the movie sorry spoiler

01:19:52.720 alert is that the people who created the simulated world they had already been created by another

01:19:56.960 group of people above them further in the future so they were a simulation and they made the simulation

01:20:02.720 so yeah watch the 13th floor it's actually a pretty good movie well okay so there's two things about

01:20:06.880 that number one it seems that inherently nate uh reality is fractal so that would track right yeah the

01:20:15.280 other thing is there's no other way to come full circle so so you don't understand what it's like to

01:20:23.520 be a parent until you are a parent and then once you are you like you gain all this wisdom the same way

01:20:29.200 that we've been talking a lot on this show about how fatherhood does put god into perspective in a much

01:20:35.360 larger way than you were previously able to access right and so it almost feels like

01:20:41.600 because you have those moments in life oh now i'm here now i understand oh now i'm here now i

01:20:48.400 understand now i'm dead now i understand now i'm grandpa now i understand but there's still

01:20:54.480 levels of understanding beyond that and the only way the only way to ever close that circle if

01:20:59.840 understanding is the goal and the goal is to close the circle that would be the only way imagine imagine

01:21:06.000 being the father of somebody who uh committed the most mass murders in the world like that someone

01:21:13.920 that's responsible for the most genocide in the world the most horrible thing and it's not hitler 0.82

01:21:17.920 it's probably stalin who you guys are thinking of and also being the father of a dude that like

01:21:23.520 basically creates technology to feed the world and and is responsible for immense good the the dynamic

01:21:30.400 between those two like like we have our kids and we'll see them grow up to be whatever they'll be but

01:21:34.800 like if god has all these kids so yeah man it's it's an experience and wouldn't you want to experience

01:21:40.640 that in some sort of way but then does that also but does that make you you'd have to accept some

01:21:47.440 form of worship from them right because you have to remember what worship is worship is just the

01:21:52.880 exchange of spiritual value you're trying to get them to be like you we worship god because worship

01:21:57.520 you become like what you worship and i think it's uh psalms 115 115 118 you become like what you worship we're

01:22:03.600 we're supposed to worship god so that we become like him yeah so that's what worship is it so

01:22:09.280 you so yeah i mean so there's some dicey areas i mean this is just my my wag yes but the thing that

01:22:15.360 freaks me out is what what you said at first top was well how do we know that the god we worship is

01:22:19.920 the og is he is he the original or is he that's a scary one and well that's what he says or doesn't

01:22:25.040 even matter if we're all one if we if we can all share the same thing then is there a difference

01:22:30.240 between them once we get there are you know is it is that what eternity is that we that yeah the

01:22:35.840 god we worship is the original but we're all uh together with him in his mind i don't know i mean

01:22:41.440 it's it's it really gets into like crazy quantum level stuff so much of what plagues us is like why

01:22:47.200 is god this way why would god do that why did god choose to do this and you know we get wrapped up

01:22:52.400 in the old testament god such a vengeful and evil sounding god right and it's like we could never

01:22:58.400 understand unless we were in his shoes and then yeah yeah and i think like you were saying

01:23:04.720 break the fractal bringing it back to a loop i think we'll fully understand let's say let's say

01:23:08.720 hypothetically that this is correct and we i we create our own adam and eve you know call them bob and

01:23:13.760 jane or you know i'm black i'll call them tyrone and laquisha i make i make my first two and they have

01:23:20.880 a bunch of kids and they rebel and i'm like i gotta smack you kids around because you just don't get it

01:23:26.800 like oh god now i see why you did what you did i understand your heart more now and you gotta be

01:23:33.280 just like gotta be there just like my mom is whenever i'm disciplining my son say see now you

01:23:38.560 understand you don't understand why i disciplined you yes you know why i speak to you now you get it

01:23:43.920 you're moving ahead of the game like first off i the fun part would be like okay you have this blank

01:23:49.840 slate if you have design what these inhabitants will even live on why why trees why he made trees

01:23:58.880 and air to breathe and water to drink it was like well i mean if you're going to design an entity like

01:24:04.640 how would you do it different you know this is this is a pretty damn complex model that's been created

01:24:10.320 you know what's funny too is top when you start to come to terms with like oh okay you're yeah you'd

01:24:15.760 have to do it this way and then god goes yeah see dumb ass that's why i did it that way honestly you 0.93

01:24:21.280 had all these complaints but when you get there you realize this is probably the most viable thing to do

01:24:26.560 this is probably a really short it's like you you come in and it's like oh welcome to heaven you

01:24:30.720 made it all right everybody sit at the desk right here and everyone sits at their own desk and it's

01:24:34.160 just like a world flat round whatever shape you want it and like pick a shape and you go okay

01:24:38.800 boom and god goes all right uh make life and then you're like oh he's like yeah you know how to do

01:24:44.000 it you'll be able to do it so then you start doing it and then within like 45 minutes and it's just

01:24:48.400 like my world's on fire and i get up and i'm like okay i'm out i'm out i lost i get it i get it i can't

01:24:54.240 i don't know how you did this and let's just move on like oh look there's a couple of people they made

01:24:58.320 their it's like okay yeah you chose this fear model good job right they're always gonna think they're

01:25:02.400 gonna call you an asshole later for that and then you get the you're like this guy's got the the 0.83

01:25:06.480 flat model and you're like yeah they're gonna say it's round okay they're gonna say it's round

01:25:10.160 and then there's the one guy that's got like donut earth or hot dog earth and he's like

01:25:14.640 it's not gonna work just trust me it's not gonna work go ahead no go ahead start it up yeah start

01:25:18.880 it up watch watch what happens and it immediately just cracks just on fire yeah he's like he's like

01:25:23.440 all right you're done uh he's just like keep moving that done all these failed earths just

01:25:27.280 gonna be like a trash can full of them just full of different shaped earths yeah yeah yeah it's like a bunch of

01:25:32.400 like you throw it in the garbage there's a bunch of like weird beings they're like kill me

01:25:38.640 you know that's gonna be even even worse like people like you top you're very creative your

01:25:41.840 world's gonna look awesome mine's gonna be like all boring because i don't have any type of artistic

01:25:45.440 ability yeah i'm gonna go exactly to what like what worked tell me what worked i'm gonna do that

01:25:50.640 we're gonna do what worked david no david's your his world is gonna be very much like the clothes he

01:25:55.280 wears if you were any you're like oh my god what's wrong with this guy they won't start naked they're not 0.92

01:26:00.880 gonna start naked adam and eve and they're gonna start only in hawaiian shirts only in hawaiian

01:26:06.400 shirts and one day the snake's gonna come in and the snake's gonna go you know you don't have to

01:26:10.800 wear he doesn't want you to know this but you don't have to wear the shirts and then i'm gonna show up

01:26:14.480 and go where are you why are you hiding and when they come out i'm gonna go why aren't you wearing

01:26:19.120 your shirts who told you you didn't have to wear your hawaiian shirts if it doesn't if it doesn't

01:26:24.960 turn out this way i'll be quite upset ed so would i honestly because as i think about it like that

01:26:30.800 would that it makes sense again i don't have anything from the bible directly this is all a

01:26:36.480 wag and it's all just based on what we know about god we know that god wants us to know him and and

01:26:41.920 i'm just i just took that and just extrapolate it from there is it wrong probably maybe something even

01:26:46.880 better than that but i think that this that would be pretty cool you you make your own run and you go

01:26:51.680 through everything that he went through would you make angels would you make angels again maybe

01:26:58.560 maybe we'll do it different maybe we'll do it completely in a different way and it'll and we'll

01:27:02.640 fail in our own special way david recreating the code of many colors but joseph is just gifted

01:27:08.480 just a really flamboyant hawaiian no it's just a bunch of rings it's like oh god

01:27:16.080 but my guess is if this is correct and we all each one of our worlds will be unique because we're

01:27:20.880 unique and it'll have our our nature and and then we then we'll talk hey i'll be like hey top man i

01:27:26.480 made my world look at these jackasses did in this world i made they said well look at what look at 0.97

01:27:31.200 what mine did and look how much they're pissing me off well this is like this is the idea of the 0.56

01:27:35.440 archetype and the story and human beings and movies and video games and things if you don't tell a

01:27:41.040 story that's good and the reason a story is good is because it's true because it follows certain rules

01:27:46.720 so yeah like there would be people like like you know these post-modernists i'm gonna break the

01:27:51.040 rules and like they're on fire right away like done like okay you're done your world didn't last five

01:27:56.800 minutes but then there are people there will be people that follow the rules to a certain extent

01:28:00.480 like where you might even go ahead and you might even remake the entire how this whole thing played

01:28:05.200 out if you do it correctly right yeah like and who knows maybe if you don't follow those rules maybe

01:28:11.600 your right top maybe it does like there are ways that you could intervene but if you break those

01:28:16.960 rules and you don't do it to the to the you know um the code let's say like the core the base code of

01:28:23.280 it then yeah it it's probably puts it on the fast track to destruction it'll be one of these things

01:28:28.480 where like you did you know i followed like pretty much how i think this whole thing goes it was like

01:28:33.600 but i eliminated childhood cancer and then you'll see like the world falls apart and he's like you see

01:28:38.720 like i kind of want to give you have to give them cancer yeah you need it you gotta get kids

01:28:43.920 it sucks man probably the worst part we should have done it exactly the way you did god okay we get it 0.83

01:28:49.360 that would be that would be the the most hilarious thing is to force us to go through it just so we

01:28:54.800 go like yeah he's right yeah he's right it doesn't work any other way so it's got to be the way he did it

01:28:59.920 yeah so so that's it that's that's my wild ass ideas i mean if if if it's too much for you let it go

01:29:05.520 if it's not then hey think about it i mean the ramifications are are i mean are crazy they're

01:29:10.800 endless ramifications of what what it could be i think it's a i think everybody should be thinking

01:29:16.240 about like this is something that people are missing like what would you do like what would

01:29:20.640 you how would you make this thing if you had a chance to remold it like it's a great idea to just

01:29:24.720 go and chew on i'm gonna tell my wife about this and probably think about it all night like what the

01:29:28.960 hell would i do different and then really try to extrapolate on well where are the holes in this it's a great

01:29:34.000 thought experiment how could this go wrong because i can't i just can't just be like oh you know

01:29:37.920 superman everyone's infant that's boring how could this go wrong you know well that's what the angels

01:29:42.800 the original angels were like they were all superman and it went it went wrong because there there was no

01:29:48.160 growth they could they couldn't grow what's the point what's the point if you can't grow he creates these

01:29:54.400 things and he's like and a good chunk of them are gonna turn on me and it's just like you know you

01:30:01.040 can see the path you know where everything goes but that's the domino you've got to flick

01:30:05.840 to get this whole party going

01:30:10.240 yep so so that's what that's what i've got and so next time um i'm just gonna i'm gonna do just

01:30:14.880 a wrap up because we've gone through so much stuff i didn't i just need to summarize everything from

01:30:19.520 chapter one through chapter 22 and yeah we'll put a cap on it and then we'll start because i i like the

01:30:25.040 idea of just doing some riffing on genesis maybe we'll start doing that um afterwards just that would be

01:30:30.080 cool that would be cool i think that would be great throwing some stuff against the wall and

01:30:34.480 and just give give me some ideas like fleshing them out with you guys yeah yeah between that

01:30:39.760 this series and uh and the monthly bible studies i think those are like fantastic tools uh and i'm

01:30:46.160 really looking forward to starting that uh uh it's interesting because we started at the end and then

01:30:50.240 we're gonna have you know back to the beginning but uh uh i'm looking forward to it so i guess let's

01:30:55.840 let's bring it in for a landing ed this is fantastic a great conversation i really love

01:31:00.160 the idea too it doesn't have to i mean you know it's it's the idea of whether or not it's blasphemous

01:31:03.760 it's like you don't have to take it as gospel can we think are we allowed to think and and

01:31:07.920 you know come up with ideas um please let everybody know one more time where they can find you ed

01:31:13.520 faithbyreason.net is the website um it's where you find like all the stuff i've been doing over the

01:31:19.360 years and uh the new the new venture is the patreon where um everything is going to be going there

01:31:25.920 first all of everything i publish new it goes there first and before it goes into the public

01:31:31.040 stuff even even the website is going to go there before it goes to my website and so bonus content

01:31:36.240 q a's there and at the height the higher tier the ten dollar tier you're part of the bible study

01:31:41.200 that's going to be every um every month we go through the entire bible in a year from the supernatural

01:31:45.680 point of view just reading it as if we never read it before like it's a new novel that's why it's

01:31:49.760 called it's called the jehovah story book club because we are reading the bible like a novel for

01:31:53.280 the first time get you know we suspend our preconceived notions and just say hey let's just take it at face

01:31:58.720 value and it's you know it's been amazing it's i i promise you it will it will change your walk with with

01:32:05.840 god amazing yeah i can't i can't wait for this to start um we're going to be a part of it i'm excited to

01:32:14.480 i'm excited to kind of get back into because i feel like this is a form of church we get to do

01:32:18.800 it here for a little bit but that's more of a form of church and i was actually texted david i was like

01:32:23.520 i'm going back to church yeah it's a church the community where you just where you learn and grow

01:32:28.240 with each other yeah and that's why i'm looking forward to this i hope i hope that um all the

01:32:32.800 dangerous retards out there listening uh who kind of because a lot a lot of the people that we've 0.99

01:32:37.360 attracted on this show are also people that look to the the organization as the church or of the

01:32:42.880 church as being maybe not a place for them um for one reason or another so i hope that

01:32:48.080 they'll join us on this because like i said i i will be there and and you said february 16th correct

01:32:53.040 yeah and they'll be recorded so you know you'll if you miss one because i know it's not everyone can

01:32:57.200 be there at every at every time you'll be able to go back and people who join later if you join a few

01:33:01.600 months from now you'll you'll still go back and get and we'll do it you know we'll do it this year

01:33:06.720 probably do the same thing next year and then we'll see you know where we want to go from there

01:33:09.840 but i think we should at least do it do this through the through the bible in one year for

01:33:12.960 a couple years in a row and and you and even if you go through this first time go through it again

01:33:17.920 because i learned something new every time and i've been doing this for like five years and each time

01:33:22.400 it's it's new stuff comes up just like do you the dream thing that i talked about earlier so do you have

01:33:27.920 your uh the past years as well still recorded some um i did i didn't record i recorded some of them

01:33:34.240 i didn't record all of them because i wanted to encourage people to show up live yeah but this is

01:33:39.040 a new venture i mean people are paying for it so i i don't want i i want because i want you to have

01:33:43.520 access to it because you know people are paying for the patreon so i don't want to say hey if you

01:33:46.880 don't show up you're going to miss out when i was doing it just with with my friends and family and

01:33:51.520 community i was like if you guys don't show up you're going to miss it so i so not recording it

01:33:55.040 wasn't a sinner for them to show up um on this on the third sunday of the month got it okay well uh we have to do

01:34:00.560 do our call again uh we will reschedule the call to do uh to talk about the patreon because that

01:34:06.320 should be linked to your private rss uh spotify feed and it would be cool like maybe like three

01:34:12.400 years you've got 36 episodes of this and you're able to catalog them and even put them one by one

01:34:17.920 people will go back and listen to this and see the differences because i'm sure like it's going to be

01:34:22.000 you know year to year things change so uh yeah we'll talk about i have i have some um i probably have

01:34:28.560 about about maybe a couple dozen maybe a dozen that i recorded just to make just because i wanted

01:34:33.600 to have them for reference and i'll have to get permission because i did it through zoom so they

01:34:38.800 have people's faces there so i just gotta make sure they're okay you know with their faces yeah do audio

01:34:43.680 only that's that's what you want that's true okay yeah cool we'll take what we can get we're beggars you

01:34:49.360 know can't be choosers here but all right ed uh thank you again and so next week we're going to be doing a

01:34:55.200 recap i am excited to get there um but until then oh we'll be back in like uh 15 minutes with our

01:35:01.760 next guest john i got his last name let's show up we're going to talk about you know trump and

01:35:06.880 executive orders is going to be like really weird current stuff i'm going to tune into that one yeah

01:35:11.200 it's going to be fun um but until then 15 minutes don't forget to obey submit comply we'll see you guys

01:35:16.240 later

01:35:20.800 in the corner of the room it is constantly telling us what to believe is real you can persuade them

01:35:28.800 that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh in the face of

01:35:35.680 an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening and they have

01:35:46.240 they're going to be able to ask you guys yeah

01:35:52.080 you

Nephilim Death Squad - September 14, 2024

The Book of Revelation Series Part XIV w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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