In this episode, we continue our discussion of the judgment of Babylon, and are joined by Ed Mabry to discuss the second half of the Judgement of Babylon. We talk about the bowls of wrath, and why we should be worried about them.
00:04:19.520I was telling you right before we started the show that I have already seen people that have seen, uh, the, the content and are thoroughly enjoying it.
00:04:27.160Oh, no, it's awesome. I appreciate that.
00:05:08.700I mean, a lot of it is just really, really bad information.
00:05:11.640People either not knowing what they're talking about or being deceptive, maybe intentionally, maybe unintentionally.
00:05:17.380Uh, just putting out stuff that just doesn't make any sense there.
00:05:21.140I mentioned in, in, in the video that there was this one guy who he studies all the astrological signs of, you know, the, the, the woman clothed in the sun being, you know, Virgo with the, if she Virgo's in the sun, then that's the revelation chapter 12 sign in the heavens.
00:05:36.720And he, and he said something like, you know, on, on, on 927 on, on, uh, September 27th coming up that there's going to be some kind of star of Jacob that will be in the sky.
00:05:46.500And that must mean that the tribulation is happening because Dan, cause this is 927 September 27th, but Daniel chapter nine, verse 27 talks about the tribulation.
00:05:55.360And therefore this means it's the tribulation's happening.
00:05:57.800Like, no, the chapter and verse breaks in the Bible were not put there by God or by the original writers.
00:06:03.640They were put there, you know, centuries later to make the Bible easier to read.
00:06:07.780So you can't take that and, and, and, and, and put it in kind of wedge your, your idea into it.
00:06:14.440And there's, there's like just a ton of stuff like that out there.
00:06:17.560You'll hear people just make all, all these really odd claims and, and try to wedge what they believe about contemporary stuff in, into the Bible.
00:06:28.300It's there's an old saying in the, um, in the information technology, um, uh, business that if you torture the data long enough, it'll confess to anything.
00:06:37.420If you twist things around enough, you can make it say whatever you want to say.
00:06:40.800An example of this is the story I heard a long time ago about this.
00:06:43.600There's this guy in church, married guy.
00:06:45.160Um, and there was a woman in the choir named grace, who he was physically attracted to.
00:06:50.840He wanted to have an affair with her and he was struggling with it.
00:06:53.260And so he was reading the Bible and he saw the verse where Jesus said, grace be unto you.
00:06:58.200And he says, oh, well, this must mean that Jesus wants me to have an affair with grace.
00:07:03.540No, God's never going to recommend you have an affair.
00:07:07.280You can't just put, you don't have the carte blanche to do that.
00:07:40.280When you came out of the other end, what are your thoughts about the, even if there were ways in which they were wrong, do you think it's malicious or do you think it's just a misinterpretation?
00:07:50.360Do you, did you find it, um, as intriguing as it looks on the surface to the average person?
00:08:24.720I didn't even, I didn't know where I didn't know as well.
00:08:27.180Um, all these different feast days and Jubilee days and how they fit in.
00:08:30.880So I think a lot of the stuff he talks about in the old Testament is really good.
00:08:33.780Even some of the stuff in the new Testament, again, there was just one area, um, which again, I'm not going to give away here, but there's one area mostly in his third video that he, I think he gets wrong because if, because basically I'll give away this one thing.
00:08:52.980And because this is like the elephant in the room and you get to the detail, you know, Messiah 2030 basically states that Jesus is going to come back in the year 2030.
00:09:02.220Jesus, the second coming is at the end of Armageddon, which I think we're going to probably start talking about next week.
00:09:07.500So Armageddon happens at the end of the tribulation, the 70, the seven years, the, the 70th week of Daniel.
00:09:13.960Well, if you do some, so that means that if that, that's those seven years have to proceed, um, 2030.
00:09:20.860And if you do some simple math, subtract seven years from 2030, you get 2023, meaning that the 70th week, the tribulation would have had to have started last year at the latest.
00:09:38.520So that's a flaw and he does some things.
00:09:42.600He has a different interpretation of the 70 weeks prophecy that I go into, which kind of justifies it and still makes it possible for Messiah to return in 2030.
00:09:52.680And I see what he's doing there and I understand why I just don't think it fits with the Bible.
00:09:58.820And I give my reasons why, but again, I could be wrong, but we'll know because if, if we'll, we'll know sooner or later, we'll know by 2030, whether it's true or not.
00:10:07.060But I think that there's a flaw there and I think he's, I think he takes a little bit of liberty and to still make it work.
00:10:13.840Um, so that's probably, that's my main issue.
00:10:16.160But other than that, well done stuff, lots of great information there.
00:10:19.980And so I, I do recommend people check out the videos when you have the time.
00:10:23.880So this would definitely be a don't throw it out with the, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater kind of situation.
00:10:28.120It seems like a, like a reaction to like agenda 2030 where the elites, the satanic elite are trying to do something by 2030.
00:10:35.660So maybe he's trying to rebut that with his own version, but you can't make these things fit.
00:10:46.620And, um, so I, I recommend it in that way.
00:10:50.240And I've been thinking about 2030, you know, before any of this stuff, all any of these date setting things started happening.
00:10:54.800I've been hearing from the secular world, doing my research, they've been, I've been hearing about two years, 2025, which is next year, which is scary.
00:11:02.480And 2030, that these elites who we're going to talk about a bit today are really, those two years are important to them to get their plans going.
00:11:11.320I mean, I heard that 2025 is when they plan to have the new world order, whatever it is good to go.
00:11:16.520And then 2030 is when, you know, they're going to, I guess, I guess the final stages.
00:30:42.720You know, it's interesting when you're talking about the merchants.
00:30:45.720There certainly hasn't been a time in history where merchants or the businesses of the world have been as consolidated as they are now, where many instances will show you that so many of your notable brands are all owned by like four companies or five companies, you know, BlackRock or what have you.
00:31:08.300And when you say merchants of the world and people who have made their money in these ways, that's who I think of, right?
00:31:15.660These massive megacorporations that run everything.
00:31:18.500You have like one of the biggest conspiracy theorists in the world, this guy, Ian Carroll, who kind of came out of nowhere.
00:31:23.560But he was asked on Infowars, but our friend that works on that, I forget his name.
00:31:30.400He was asked, he's like, what do you think is the biggest conspiracy theory?
00:31:32.600And he started talking about like, he's like, well, it's money, power, people.
00:31:36.120And he starts talking about BlackRock and these things.
00:31:37.940And I was like, oh, you're missing it.
00:31:39.820And it's right here when they're talking about those like those five like entities that rule the world.
00:31:45.580He's talking about that, but he's not looking at it through a biblical lens.
00:32:20.800It's like if you're willing to remain objective and continue looking at the truth and where it leads you, then the buck doesn't stop at the nuts and bolts and the money.
00:32:31.240It continues beyond that into a realm that, you know, a lot of people don't go there because you can't perceive it.
00:33:08.360And if you don't understand the spiritual, then you're just going to be locked in the physical, and it's never going to make any sense to you.
00:33:13.120And like you said, Raven, you're right.
00:33:16.340You know, a few companies own everything.
00:33:18.300Famously, what, five companies control all of our media?
00:33:41.780So, and again, that's, again, one of the many reasons why I think that Nimrod is the person whose spirit possesses the Antichrist,
00:33:47.360because the Antichrist is doing everything that Nimrod did at Babel.
00:33:50.840And when we get to Armageddon, talking about that next week, I think it's all about what Nimrod's ultimate goal was when he was building the tower, which was to invade heaven.
00:35:08.080And I heard a voice saying, come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, lest you receive her plagues, for her sins have reached heaven and God has remembered her iniquities.
00:35:16.260And I'm going to skip down a little bit.
00:35:18.020If you're rendered to her, she'll render to you, repay her, and measure, because she glorified herself and she lived luxuriously.
00:35:22.480I just want to ask you a question about that, Ed.
00:35:24.800When it comes to this idea of come out of her, that is, I mean, you know, it sounds like a call for a detachment from the system, right?
00:35:35.860Do you think that that assessment is fair, that this entire thing is, you know, we talk often to a character named Donnie Darkin,
00:35:43.880and he says that what it looks like in his estimation, which I tend to agree with him,
00:35:48.620is this idea that there's a harlot system and there's a beast system and this harlot system is going to fall.
00:35:54.460It sounds very much like what we're talking about right now.
00:35:56.180So when you have this call for come out of her, my people, is this in your estimation a call to detach in as many ways as possible from this system?
00:38:10.260I mean, you can talk about the Faustian bargains.
00:38:13.440And there are legends, and I think many of them are true, about people, politicians, celebrities who make these Faustian bargains.
00:38:21.780You guys probably know the researcher, Isaac Weishaupt, that's his pseudonym.
00:38:27.360He's the one who actually introduced me to Sam Tripoli just through listening to him, and that got me on to Sam.
00:38:33.540And he has some great books where he, I think it's called Sacrifice Magic Behind the Mic, because he talks about, he's in the rap, so am I.
00:38:40.240And he talked about how these people are literally selling their souls, and they give blood sacrifices of people who are close to them for fame and fortune.
00:38:47.660And it sounds like a movie, but these things really happen.
00:38:50.920These entities do, can make you fabulously wealthy if you give it over to them.
00:39:02.080You know, he talks about low time preference, and I think what happens is when you make a people desperate, then that opens them up to this idea of, like, instant gratification, right?
00:39:13.800Instead of self-sacrifice and putting off the things that are bad for you so that good things may come in the future, the ultimate version of instant gratification is cutting deals with these entities for something now.
00:39:30.700But, yeah, I think that's – I don't know him personally, but my assumption, he seems to be following the pattern of the ones who've done this.
00:39:38.720People, there's a rumor, just a rumor, don't send any killers after me, that, you know, that Big E was a sacrifice.
00:39:45.260They're all, you know, Kanye's mother.
00:39:51.480Yeah, there's this really interesting documentary called Genius, with G-E-N-Y-U-S.
00:39:58.740It's a documentary about Kanye West, and this guy was documenting his life before he blew up and became really famous because he wanted to make a movie about it later with Kanye's permission.
00:40:07.800And it shows that he was a different guy beforehand.
00:40:12.040You could tell that they were really close, and it documented him when he was, you know, growing up poor in Chicago in his apartment building, and he was, you know, just working on his craft.
00:40:20.480Is that the one, Ed, where they show him going into Bad Boy Records, and he's, like – he's literally, like, rapping to the secretary, and he's going into the offices?
00:40:30.340Yeah, honestly, it was a great documentary.
00:40:32.540Yeah, but as you just said, once his mother died, he blew up huge.
00:40:37.560He became really huge, but he was a very different person.
00:40:40.100I mean, now he's, you know – I feel bad for the guy, frankly, not financially.
00:40:44.460He has more money than me, but spiritually.
00:40:46.620I mean, I think he's struggling with it.
00:40:48.040And there's all kinds of stories that you've heard about these sacrifices.
00:40:52.200And so the whole point is that come out of her means don't participate in that system.
00:40:56.500Don't do the short-term gain because it's going to be long-term destruction.
00:41:00.060But make no mistake, they can give you tremendous wealth and fame, and you can just tell – have you noticed – and I'll say this last thing, and then we'll get back to Revelation – that a lot of these people, once they get that fame, they start going hyper-religious with symbolism.
00:41:19.540Like, look at the people like Ozzy Osbourne and some of those heavy metal guys who are very satanic.
00:41:25.980All of a sudden, they start getting tattoos of crosses everywhere because I think they know, oh, man, I made a bad deal, and I need to get out of it, but I don't know if they can.
00:41:35.280To that point, though, it's great because, like most things in the Bible, the words are evergreen.
00:41:42.380So, of course, there's been moments throughout human history where there will be something that resembles this system, and that sentiment of come out of her, my people, is always going to ring true.
00:41:53.860It's like anything that resembles this, you've got to pull away from it.
00:43:05.920God had to divorce her because she was cheating, but he's going to bring her back because he has an unbreakable promise he made to Abraham about Israel.
00:43:13.760The point is that Israel was considered a widow.
00:43:17.120She says, I sit as a queen and am no widow.
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00:44:46.320We talked about before that it's the amalgamation of paganism and Christianity.
00:44:51.480So they took the queen of heaven and just made her into Mary.
00:45:01.280One, yes, she's contrasting herself with Israel, but she's also comparing herself.
00:45:05.700She's a woman, too, and Israel is considered a woman, a wife.
00:45:08.620Could this be that this is a fake type of Israel that we talked about in the synagogue of Satan, those who claim they are Jews and are not?
00:45:17.740Or they're saying that, you know, we're different kinds of, we're a different spouse than old Israel.
00:45:38.040And I think we know that there is obviously Jesus talking about himself, that there are some people who claim to be Jews but are not, but are for the synagogue of Satan.
00:45:46.500Could this be, could this woman be representing the synagogue of Satan as well as Semiramis and false religion?
00:46:12.600So, there are three groups of people who lament over the fall of Babylon.
00:46:17.800There are the kings of the earth, the merchants, and those who trade by sea.
00:46:22.280So, these are people who will, it says several times that they stand at a distance watching her burn, which means this system is going to, is going to be physically burned up.
00:46:31.940Just to clarify, Ed, for those who may be wondering, like myself, when you have this idea of this is going to happen in a day, this isn't a day is a thousand years type of a situation, right?
00:48:36.300Matthew 24, 13, he who endures to the end shall be saved.
00:48:40.880Is that, I mean, is that to be taken on its face, this idea that it's interesting, too, because we talk about the raptures and potentially there being three.
00:48:51.220Is there room for maybe who endures to the third shall be saved or those people who endure this entire process shall be saved?
00:49:43.400They're asking about your second coming.
00:49:45.680And so he, so everything he's talking about is about the second coming, not the first.
00:49:50.120But he gives them, he gives them information about what's going to happen before that.
00:49:56.900And he talks about the tribulation and all this kind of things.
00:49:59.780But then when he gets to the end, he says, you know, you know, the main sign is when you see the abomination of desolation, run to the hills.
00:50:05.580And then later on, he talks about how, you know, I will gather them together.
00:50:10.280But yeah, if you endure to the end, it means that, you know, if you're able to make it to the end of this period, you will be rescued, basically.
00:50:20.540You will be saved because, as we'll talk about next week, the prerequisite for Jesus to return is that the Jewish people, the Israelites, have to accept him and ask him to come back.
00:50:34.780You see, in the book of Hosea, it says that, you know, you look upon me whom you have pierced and you said, you will mourn for me as you mourn for your firstborn son.
00:50:44.560In fact, they'll say, oh, Jesus was the Messiah.
00:50:47.640He came and, you know, we didn't believe in him.
00:50:50.280And they're going to weep and cry and they're going to say, and they're going to request that he comes back.
00:50:56.500So they will be saved because they will finally believe in their true Messiah.
00:51:01.000And that's one of the purposes of the tribulation.
00:51:02.760The two purposes of this tribulation period, the 70th week, one is to punish spiritual evil.
00:51:06.620And number two is to get the Jews, the unbelieving Jewish remnant to believe in God because God promised them that he promised that that, you know, you I would return for you and I will take you back.
00:51:19.680But I can't take you back until you believe in me.
00:51:21.900So the tribulation is to push them so hard that they finally say, oh, okay, I finally get it because that's, you know, how we are.
00:51:28.220We, a lot of us don't turn to God until we're at the bottom.
00:51:31.820You know, that's when we finally return to him.
00:51:35.300And that's, that's one of the things that's going on here in the tribulation.
00:52:15.220And this is why we know this is yet future because there's never been a time where people haven't hoarded luxury items.
00:52:20.720Some people try, you know, they're one of the things we talked about earlier that everyone has all their end times theories.
00:52:26.480And they're putting the, the time of, of the, the tribulation at the 70th week here, there, and everywhere.
00:52:31.280Um, but again, because there, you know, there, there were times of famine before, and maybe this is when it happened.
00:52:38.180You know, there were times of, of worldwide cataclysms, but there's never been a time from the time of Jesus up till today, where no one hoarded luxury items.
00:52:46.880And, and, and this is it, and it doesn't, you can't even put the, um, what the, the third horseman, the black horseman on this.
00:52:54.160Cause you know, the black horse, they call it the horseman of famine where, you know, it takes an entire day's wage to, to have a, a, a, a loaf of bread, but it says, don't hurt the oil or the wine.
00:53:05.300So that means that, that even in this time, in, in the, um, the, the revelation chapter six famine, there's people still have luxury items.
00:53:13.180The rich aren't affected only the, you know, the poor are affected by this, but here it all luxury is gone.
00:53:19.120And the reason is, I think, and you just said it, Raven, who cares about luxury?
00:53:23.840If you don't have anything to eat or drink.
00:53:27.240And as you saw in the heat of battle, your squad relies on you.
01:19:52.120But, but my point is like, you know, the Jews were a persecuted minority for so long and it totally get why, you know, cruel things were done to the Jewish people.
01:20:00.900Not even, you know, uh, they are God's chosen people.
01:20:08.280But now you have it where it's almost switched around where you can't say anything critical at all.
01:20:14.900You look at, you know, what's going on with Candace Owens, who I find her entertaining.
01:20:18.720I, I, I, sometimes I think she's controlled opposition, um, because of some of the stuff she says and how she says it and how she like, um, I don't know if you know, Larry Elder.
01:20:32.120And I see he's, he's grown to national prominence.
01:20:33.540He's one of those, he's African-American, but he's one of those people that no matter what the subject is.
01:20:37.940If it affects black people, he always takes the opposite side, like, like perpetually to the point, like, dude, you're not, you're just trying to satisfy your audience.
01:20:47.260You can't, I don't believe you believe that everything that you always take the opposite side of what most black people take, but he's doing it to be contrarian because his audience is mostly conservative in Orange County, um, in Southern California.
01:20:57.680But Candace Owens, she's kind of similar to that, but again, she's entertaining and she's not hard to look at.
01:21:03.080But what I've noticed about her is that she's become like hyper Catholic recently.
01:21:15.880Well, and, and, and to that point, it's like, I'm not too sure.
01:21:18.940Like we have a mutual friend in, uh, in donut who is a excellent conspiracy researcher, but he's recently calling out a couple of characters in the Twitter space, uh, claiming that they're initiated, but we also know them personally.
01:21:30.780I highly doubt they're initiated into sort of, sort of secret organization.
01:22:16.540She wanted to, um, track kids that were saying mean things in her college and had like a whole email device or list set up and she was interviewed.
01:22:25.440So she started on the left and now she's on the right.
01:22:27.440I'm very suspicious of people like that.
01:22:31.640I mean, she talked, she's talked about, you know, Edward Bernays and Sigmund Freud.
01:22:34.780Again, those are things that people in the conspiracy theory have known for a long, in the conspiracy space have known for a long time.
01:22:40.100Tucker Carlson's doing the same thing.
01:22:41.400I'm like, are you trying to legitimize yourself into the conspiracy community by saying these things, which are relatively mild compared to what, what the cutting edge conspiracy stuff is?
01:22:53.520The whole thing is very confusing to me because one of the things that people are all losing sight of is that biblical verse where it says, uh, they will claim to be Jews, but are not.
01:23:02.280They are actually the church of Satan.
01:23:03.640And it's like, clearly there's going, there's a precedence for a group of people claiming to be Jews and are not.
01:23:10.120And for some reason right now, the battlefront is people who are willing to say Jew period.
01:23:15.660And it's like, well, the daily wire does need to be like, a dress out.
01:23:21.620You guys are ridiculous now at this point, but I just suspect that as a pressure cooker effect, where it was like, you couldn't say Jew for a long time.
01:23:27.680Now, all of a sudden there's been a disproportionate response where it's gone really hard in the opposite direction and we've lost nuance.
01:23:33.800And for some reason, if you claim that there's nuance, now you're just afraid and unwilling to engage in the important conversation.
01:23:40.080And I'm like, man, this is getting messy.
01:23:41.640And then on the other hand, you have the, the hyper Zionist Christians who take the exact opposite, who are, who are, you know, raising the red heifers for, for this and for, for, for the new temple.
01:23:52.800And who, uh, you know, there's, there's a garden, I don't know if he's still alive.
01:23:55.740He was a pastor, uh, John Hagee, who was, he was, you know, we had Benjamin Netanyahu on his, on his, uh, his, his broadcast on, on TV.
01:24:12.340And, and so it was like, no, these are God's chosen people.
01:24:15.240You can't say anything bad about them.
01:24:16.640But I'm like, well, you know, I need to be, you have to call out wrong when it happens, no matter who does it.
01:24:24.060And so I think there needs to be a balance between understanding God's plan for Israel, but also understanding that if you do wrong, you do wrong.
01:24:31.420And there is a, there are verses in the Bible that says that at the, at the very end, all nations are going to be against Israel for whatever reason.
01:24:40.440So I can kind of see us moving in that direction right now, right now.
01:24:44.800And look, at the end of the day, it's like, these things are prophesied.
01:25:09.320And also, I'm going to see where I want to mix in the Battle of Gog and Magog, which, interestingly, is like, of all, 60 episodes in the Revelation series, that one has the most views and the most comments.