The Book of Revelation Series Part XVII w⧸ Ed Mabrie
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Summary
In this episode of the book of Revelation series, we are joined by Ed Mabry, a writer, podcaster, speaker, and podcaster. He has been writing about spiritual warfare since 2010, and has been a consistent contributor to the Christian Science Monitor since 2011. In this episode, we talk about his journey, how he got into the field, and what it means to be a Christian in the modern world.
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But the chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on
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We know we're saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
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We know we're talking about how they learn to try to be slaves.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
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That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
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And we are back once again every Friday with the continuation of our Book of Revelation series,
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Ed, if you could, just for the audience, let everybody know where it is they can find your work.
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So the best way to find me is on my website, faithbyreason.net.
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That has, like, all my material, with the exception of a few YouTube videos, which I'll talk about in a sec.
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But, yeah, that's where I have most of my stuff there.
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Also, the Revelation series is on my YouTube channel.
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And in addition to that, I've been putting up shorts, little clips about Christian philosophy there.
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And I'm also on TikTok, and I'm putting them up on Twitter X as well.
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But then I got dinged for copyright, even though I bought the music that I put on there.
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Like, we pay for the app, and it comes with the music, and then they give me problems with copyright.
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I see here on your site that you put up the spiritual warfare.
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I was, again, I just, I'm stupid, and I wanted to put it on Top Lops, or I'm going to.
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Because people constantly DM me or email me about this, and I'm sending them the PDF file.
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Yes, say it out loud, because spiritual warfare is done with words.
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So that's kind of in, it's on the top of my feed now.
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So it's going to be, it's an anchor link at the very top of faithbyreason.net.
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So it'll always be easily accessible, even as that post starts moving down, as I put new videos up.
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Guys, everybody should be going, by the way, to faithbyreason.net, and supporting Ed Mabry.
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Because God knows it takes, it's, look, I mean, making content and doing things on the internet, it seems for some reason from the outside looking in like it's not.
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And so if you appreciate the work that Ed Mabry is putting in, and you find value in what it is that he's doing, then you should be supporting him as well.
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Because these things, they take up time, they take up effort, they take up brain function.
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And so, you know, the least people can do is support the people that you want to see be successful.
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So today, we have an interesting topic that we're getting into.
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This is something that I have very little knowledge of.
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But it's one of these things where your ears perk up when you hear it.
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It's something that I'm familiar with as far as the terminology goes, the Gog and Magog wars.
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But its implications and the details of it are something that are foreign to me.
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Ed, wherever you feel comfortable taking it away with or from, then let's go that way.
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Sure. So this is a really interesting topic because it's in my Revelation series, but of course, it's not Revelation.
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The Gog and Magog wars is in Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39, which we'll read through.
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And it's funny, I know you guys have probably had this happen to you as well, where there are certain shows, certain topics that you put out and you think, you know, people are going to love this and get tons of traffic from it.
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Then you put up something, it's like, yeah, just kind of a throwaway.
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But again, I put this here because, you know, it has to, as we'll see when we read through it, it has to fit somewhere in the end time scenario.
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It says in the book of Ezekiel very clearly that this happens in the latter days.
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So it must happen at some point in the Revelation scenario.
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So I said, well, I guess I should put something up, do a quick commentary on it.
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But this has gotten me more, this and probably the little season have gotten me more comments than anything else.
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I think it's because I didn't know that this was so, people were so into this.
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And I think it's because of our times now and with the way things are happening war-wise.
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Hey, Ed, just to ask you, though, with the little season thing, it was controversial in that there was like a couple of different schools of thought arguing over who was right.
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But is that the same thing here with the Gog and Magog war, or is this just that people's interests are drawn to it?
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And also people have very strong opinions because, as we'll see, this is not clear cut exactly what this is and, as importantly, when it happens.
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I am not 100% certain, so I'm not dogmatic about how this happens and when it happens.
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And people just went in and said, nope, you're wrong.
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I just said, here's what everybody else thinks, and here are my thoughts on it.
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Here's the pros and cons over each one of these.
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But it's kind of like the rapture almost where people like, you know, you're pre, mid, or post, and, you know, if you don't – if you disagree with the other two, then you're going to jump on those people.
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We Christians, we find very interesting things to fight each other about.
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Somebody was – I was reading the comments because every once in a while I go to the Little Season video just to amuse myself and see what people are shouting me down about.
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This time, someone was upset because I'm wearing a Nike hat.
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Yeah, people think that it symbolizes Saturn, right?
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And Nike is a Greek god of – you know, Nike means victory, and there's, you know, Greek gods attached to it.
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Like, I know it represents – it looks nice, and it also fits nice, and it's like, all right, I know that they have, you know, they have a brand of shoe where they have a little pocket of blood in the heel for some gay rapper.
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But I'm like, you know, I'm just trying to run.
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There's nothing you could – I'm sure – card, if you drive a Ford car, Henry Ford was – he was an occultist, so you're not going to drive your Ford car because of the Volkswagen.
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But he was also a huge anti-Semite, so that's why I drive a Ford.
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Well, speaking of huge anti-Semites, right, you can't drive a Volkswagen because that's, you know, got all these different connotations.
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It's just sometimes I wonder myself, am I meant to be abstaining because it's like be in the world but not of it?
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And it's like that's a tall order if you want to take that to the T.
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And hats off to anybody who is successfully doing that, by the way.
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I don't think that there's – you know, I certainly don't turn my nose up at people that are trying to live in that way, but it is incredibly difficult.
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Everything that you come into counter with or come into contact with throughout your day is going to have something attached to it that's going to be, you know, more than reason enough not to engage with it.
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And at that point, you're a hermit in a cave, and, you know, maybe there's an argument for that.
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So why don't we start by just reading the passages, and we'll go from there because I think there's a lot to digest here.
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Hopefully, we'll get through it in this episode.
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If not, hey, then we'll just have to have one more.
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And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face against Gog in the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshach and Tubal, and prophesy against him, saying, Thus saith the Lord God, I am against the Ogog, chief prince of Meshach and Tubal.
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In some translations, probably in, I think, in the King James and New King James, it says the chief prince of Rosh, Meshach and Tubal.
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We'll talk about that when we get further down.
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He says, And I will turn thee back and put hooks in thy jaws and bring thee forth of thee and all thy armies, horsemen, horsemen, with, you know, armor, blah, blah, blah.
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He starts naming nations, Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya, with all of them, with shield and helmet, Gohmr and all his bands, the house of Tagarmah in the northern quarters, or the uttermost north, and all his bands, and many people with thee.
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Be prepared, prepare thyself, and all thy company, or symbol against thee, and be thou regarded unto them.
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After many days, y'all shall be visited, and in the latter years, you shall come to the land that was brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people against the mountains of Israel, which have always been a waste, but is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely, all of them.
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And many people, okay, it does say the Lord, I'm on, I think of verse 10.
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It does say the Lord, it will come to pass at that time, shall things come into thy mind, you shall think an evil thought, and thou shall say, I will go up against the land of unwalled villages.
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I will go to them that are at rest, and dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, to take spoil, to take prey, to turn thy hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have come, which have gotten cattle and goods,
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Sheba and Dedan, and all the merchants of Charshish, and the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil?
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Have you gathered thy company to take prey, to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, and to take great spoil?
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Therefore, son of man, prophesy, and say to God, thus saith the Lord, in that day, when my people of Israel dwell safely, will you not know it?
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And you will come from that place in the north parts, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, a mighty army.
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And thou shall come against my people Israel as a cloud over the land, and shall be in the latter day.
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I will bring thee against my land, and the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O God, before their eyes.
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Thus saith the Lord God, art thou whom, thus saith the Lord God, art thou he whom I have spoken in old times by my servant, my prophets of Israel,
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which prophesied in those days many years, that I will bring thee against them.
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And it shall come to pass in that same time, when God shall come against the land of Israel, that saith the Lord God, my fury will come up in my face, for my jealousy, and in the fire of my wrath I have spoken.
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Surely in that day will you be a great shaking in the land of Israel.
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So the fishes of the sea, the fowls of the air, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth shall shake in my presence,
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and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
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And I will call for a sword against him through all my mountains, saith the Lord.
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Every man's sword shall be against his brother.
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And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood, and will rain upon him and upon his bands and upon many people that are with him, overflowing rain and great hailstones, fire and brimstone.
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Thus I will magnify myself and sanctify myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.
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That's like chapter 17 of the book of Revelation.
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That's what he just described in the last couple of verses there.
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With this tremendous earthquake, and the flattening of mountains, and the falling of high places, and things of that nature.
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Yeah, and that sounds like the Armageddon scenario.
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That's one of the possibilities of what this is.
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So I'm just going to read the first few of chapter 38, and then we'll start talking about it.
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Therefore, son of man, prophesy against Gog and say, thus saith the Lord, behold, I am against thee, O Gog, chief prince of Meshach and Tubal.
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And I will turn thee back and leave but a sixth part of thee and will cause thee to come up from the north and will bring thee against the mountains of Israel.
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And it will smite the bow out of thy left hand and will cause the arrow to fly out of thy right hand.
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And thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou and all the lands and the people that are with thee.
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And I will give thee to the ravenous birds of every sort and the beasts of the fields to be devoured.
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Thou shalt fall upon the open field where I have spoken, thus saith the Lord.
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And I will send fire on Magog and among them who dwell carelessly in the isles or in the coastlands, and they shall know that I am the Lord.
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So I will make my holy name known in the midst of many people, and I will not let them pollute my holy name anymore.
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And the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in Israel.
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There's a couple of things I want to go to where it says the burial of Gog.
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And it shall come to pass in that day, that will give Gog a place there of graves in Israel, in the valley of the passengers on the East Sea, which is the Dead Sea.
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And they shall stop the noses of the passengers, and they shall bury Gog and all his manias, and they shall be, they will call it the valley of Plom and Gog.
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In seven months, the house of Israel burying them, and they shall cleanse the land.
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And yet all the people, all the people, they shall bury them, and they shall be known, just shall be to them renowned the day and glorified, saith the Lord.
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And they shall sever men of continual employment, passing through the land.
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And basically, they're going to spend seven years burning, we talked about they're going to spend seven years burning their fuel.
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And go all the way to the bottom, all the way to the end of the chapter.
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Okay, and Israel says, I will set my glory among the heathen, and the heathen shall know the judgment I've executed.
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Basically, they're going to know he's God because of what he's done for Israel, and he led them out of captivity, and he's gathered them into their own land, which they have no more, and in his peace, pouring out his spirit upon them.
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All right, so let me just summarize all of this.
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There is some entity or person or individual called Gog of a land of Magog, and they are going to, this Gog of the land of Magog and a coalition of nations, some of which we can know from this passage, and some of which we'll have to kind of infer from the table of nations in Genesis, who they are all coming into Israel.
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Let's take a step back and look at the context of this.
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So Ezekiel was a prophet, and he was a contemporary of Daniel.
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They were both prophets during the Babylonian captivity, about 400-ish B.C.
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Daniel was the prophet to the southern tribes, who were captive in Babylon, and Ezekiel was in the northern part, after Babylon conquered Assyrian.
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Maybe the Assyrians took the ten northern tribes captive, then Babylon, under Nebuchadnezzar, conquered Assyria.
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And so they're all in the Babylonian empire, even though you have the, I'm not going to get to the whole ten lost tribes thing, which I've already explained why I think that's, there's no evidence that those tribes were ever lost.
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They were all released under Persia, and they were all allowed to go back to Israel, all 12 tribes.
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So this whole scenario that they just dispersed and went north and magically went from being Middle Eastern Jews to blonde-haired, blue-eyed Caucasians who started America.
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Anyway, that's, oh, I'm not going to go there anymore.
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And so at this point in God's mind, he's kind of, he's had it with Israel.
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God blessed them, and they just turned against many worship idols.
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And so Ezekiel and Daniel are really, where Jehovah, God, is focused on the future.
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He's giving prophecies about things that are going to happen.
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I'm looking for, I'm looking towards the future now.
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So that's, so that's the contemporary audience, our ancient Israelites.
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So he's talking about this person or this entity, Gog, of the land of Magog, and they are going to,
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Ethiopia is not, in that time, was not just the nation of Ethiopia.
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Ethiopia was a huge swath of land, basically from Egypt, well, below Egypt, all the way down to Southern East Africa.
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Libya, we know Libya, Libya is not just like the Muammar Gaddafi Libya, it's basically Northern Africa.
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And then when you look at some of the other nations, it talks about Gomer.
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And keep in mind, Gomer, Magog, Meshach, Tubal, all these, the reason that we are not sure where all of them are is because we keep changing the names of nations.
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So God is talking, God is giving you the names of the tribes, the ancestral tribes of all these people.
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And we know vaguely where they went in the table of nations in Genesis chapter 10.
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You know, when Noah and his three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth, they, you know, all their descendants spread all over the world.
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And Shem or the Semitic people, Semitic people are mostly the Middle Easterners.
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Generally speaking, there's a lot of intermarriage, but generally they were in the Middle East.
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But Japheth, he, his descendants kind of mostly went north.
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So they are the Greeks, the Romans, the progenitors, Russia, the progenitors of the European and Eurasian nations.
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And then you have Ham, whose descendants went into Egypt.
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Most of Africa is the descendants of Ham, but also, ironically, Asia is our descendants of Ham.
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So you have the African people and the Asian people have a common ancestor, which is really odd because you can find people who look different, more different.
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Yeah, I was, I actually was consulting with the, the Chinese community hospital in, here in Northern California.
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And, of course, I was like, I think I was one of maybe two black people in the entire company.
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But we, and what we thought, what we thought was, found that was interesting is that they, we have certain genetic things in common.
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Like, both of our races are pretty much lactose intolerant.
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We, our cultures are, are, are rice-based as opposed to grain-based.
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African food has, has, is rice-based as far as the main carbohydrate.
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We, our bodies are not designed to, to, to really digest cereal grains very well.
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So, I just, I just thought that was really interesting.
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Would, would Genghis Khan come from the line of Ham?
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Genghis Khan would have come from the line of Ham.
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And, and even the Native Americans, Indigenous people are come from, from the, from the line
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Because, you know, they, they came from Asia to the Americas.
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And, and, but yeah, it's, it's so interesting because I, I dated very briefly.
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I dated a Korean girl who, oh my gosh, she was so hot.
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But, but we were, we were dating and I was, I wanted to get serious.
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I'm like, you know, I really dig, you know, we were, we were, I think we're pretty good
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And she was like, yeah, you know, I like you too.
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I think you're great, but I can't bring you home to my family.
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She said, well, could you bring me home to yours?
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I'm like, well, yeah, now that you mention it, it probably wouldn't go that well on my
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Too bad you didn't know the, the grain and rice thing back then.
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That would have been a good way to kind of smooth things over.
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But, so I'm sorry, Beck, that was a crazy aside.
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So Gomer appears to be Turkey, one of the sons of Japheth.
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Armenians to this day still call them, refer to themselves as the house of Tagarma.
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Um, you, and then you had, then, um, uh, Meshach and Tubal, those are also, uh, descendants
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So we're talking about a lot of the Northern or European nations.
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So you have some, you have some, um, Asian minor, um, Southern European nations.
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It appears you have African nations and, um, Persia.
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So they're coming from all sides against Israel.
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Interesting thing is how Israel is described here.
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Israel is described as a land of unwalled villages at peace.
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Now that's really going to play into when this might, might happen because that's you.
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Can you, would you ever describe Israel as that way being unwalled, not having defenses up?
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No, I mean, they, they're, they're famous for having the iron dome, right?
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I mean, that's, isn't one of the, one of the signs of the time that, uh, like there will
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be peace in the Middle East and then we should start looking possibly.
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So that's what, when I'm, when I break down when this might happen, then that, that's
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So, so you have these nations that are, that are coming against Israel at a time when Israel
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It says they're coming specifically to take spoil, to take plunder.
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That's why, that's a, that's why they're coming.
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So any scenario that doesn't include that, well, you're going to have to, that's a con,
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There are pros and cons to all the, all the scenarios that I'm going to give you, but
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And when this happens, do you have, so these nations come against him and then you have,
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it says, you see, it says a Sheba, Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish say, um, have
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Sheba and Dedan, they're descendants of, of, of Shem.
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And they, um, occupy the area that is modern day Saudi Arabia.
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Tarshish at the time of Ezekiel writings, what was the Western most area that had civilization?
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So most, most scholars believe that Tarshish was Spain, or it could also just mean Western
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If we're going to take this to a modern time and it says the merchants of Tarshish and
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all their young lions or all their, you know, um, strong descendants.
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So it could be, um, all of Western Europe could maybe even be the U S because we are, you
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know, the United States was founded by Western Europe and they're, they're not going to be
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involved in the fight, but they're, but they're going to be asking, Hey, what are you guys doing?
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You have, you come to take their stuff, but they're not going to get involved.
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And then, um, God talks about what he's going to do.
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He says, the fury will come in his face and he will rain fire on him.
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They'll, they'll be as the earthquakes, um, there'll be hell stones coming down and the
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birds of the air is going to devour their flesh and the beasts of the earth are going to devour
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Every, every man sort of will be against his, his, his brother's sword.
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He's going to knock the, you know, knock the bow out of their left hand and the arrow out of
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their right, by the way, that doesn't necessarily mean like a physical bow and arrow of the
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It's just, but in that time, you know, it means, um, uh, but, but that time was translated
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is, it was translated bow and arrow and he's going to rain fire on them.
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As I said, the, uh, animals are going to eat their flesh and it's going, they're going to
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be buried for seven months to bury all the dead in Israel and it's, and they're going to burn
00:25:26.520
God says specifically so that Israel and the nations will know that he is God.
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And it says specifically here that Israel was desolate and now they've been brought back.
00:26:07.080
So that's the scenarios of it in a big picture sense of, of what this war is about.
00:26:13.740
So now I'll let you guys go, but then we need to talk up, then we'll dive into when this
00:26:19.440
So there, there are three huge theories as to when and how this happens.
00:26:23.860
And I'll, I'll give you the pros and cons of all three.
00:26:26.880
The idea that they'd be burning their weapons, uh, for fuel, because, you know, you try to
00:26:32.940
think about that in modern context and it's like, are we talking about nuclear weapons?
00:26:37.860
Uh, you know, are they converting their apparatus that typically aims their nuclear capabilities
00:26:44.540
at weaponry into, you know, a nuclear base power system?
00:26:48.960
Well, that, that would go nicely with our episode we just did about JFK, where, um, we had somebody
00:26:55.400
on that claims that basically the JFK assassination was, had, had everything to do with Israel procuring
00:27:02.500
And I think project Manhattan and JFK was strictly against that and everybody knows what happened
00:27:13.040
I didn't, I didn't hear that episode, but I've, I have heard before people talking about,
00:27:17.000
I don't know if it was on AAA show or somebody, somebody else was talking about the involvement
00:27:21.860
of Israel in the, in that, in the JFK scenario, which I hadn't never even, never came to mind.
00:27:32.380
He was showing us all kinds of pictures of, uh, you know, Orthodox Jews and they're dressed
00:27:37.820
And it, it is, it's what it appears to be a pure, a pure room ceremony, which now, if
00:27:44.200
you've listened to one of the later episodes of tinfoil hat with Oli Demogarty's talking
00:27:47.920
about the Trump assassination, being a pure room, uh, ceremony as well.
00:28:02.500
The more I learn about everything that's going on, the more I'm freaked out.
00:28:07.520
It's time to get this show on the road because this world redeemable.
00:28:13.120
I don't, I don't want to get into fatalism right now.
00:28:15.940
So, um, so as far as when this occurs, so we know it's going to occur in the latter days.
00:28:22.960
So it's not going to be contemporary of what it wasn't, it was not contemporary to Ezekiel.
00:28:27.500
It didn't happen during his lifetime or even after the latter days, always a, um, a reference
00:28:33.460
to the time of Jacob's trouble, the 70th week of Daniel, the, the end of the age, which is
00:28:38.700
why I wanted to put this, um, section in my revelation series, because, you know, even though
00:28:43.260
the book of revelation doesn't seem to directly address it, there's some possibilities, which
00:28:48.140
we're going to get into a couple of them, but, but it has to happen at somewhere in the
00:28:53.260
So there are the three main buckets or there are people who believe that this invasion
00:28:57.120
happens either at, at right before or at the very beginning of the seven year period
00:29:04.140
There are some who believe it happens at the end of the tribulation as part of the Armageddon
00:29:11.540
And then there are those who believe that this actually happens at the end of the millennium
00:29:18.100
You know, uh, there, so the, the first chunk of the tribulation, isn't there supposed to be
00:29:31.440
Because the way I'm looking at it is like, if there does come a time where like, you
00:29:35.540
know, earlier you were talking about, uh, peace amongst the nations and peace in the Middle
00:29:39.860
East and Israel suddenly, uh, turns its weapon cash into a nuclear energy facility and we
00:29:50.420
have, you know, X amount of time of peace, that would be an interesting scenario to watch
00:29:59.460
So let's talk about the first one scenario because it actually, it goes in line with what
00:30:05.320
Well, really quickly though, look at, look at David's just snacking.
00:30:09.520
Um, it's, it's interesting to note the dynamic of what Trump has been saying.
00:30:14.260
Like, you know, he's been saying a lot of things, a lot of things I like, and frankly, things
00:30:18.040
that I enjoy, like some of the jokes he said, but, uh, one of the things he was talking about
00:30:21.820
with Israel is like, uh, he's like, you know, we're going to, we're going to punish the
00:30:27.320
We're going to root them out and they will be punished.
00:30:29.280
So this peace in Israel, I mean, it could be, it could look like peace, but it, it, to
00:30:35.240
me, it sounds a lot more like a forced peace, a tyranny.
00:30:38.580
Like you will be peaceful with Israel, like strongman tactics.
00:30:43.200
And that would set the table for what happens here where everyone's like, yeah, yeah, we'll
00:30:48.480
And then, you know, when, when the gates are down to like, you know what, we gotta, we
00:30:54.880
Cause if something happens and all of a sudden Israel is, is, uh, not only built up all this
00:31:00.100
resentment across the world, but it's already vulnerable.
00:31:04.740
And then if you suppress it more where, yeah, it's, it's just, it's a recipe it's, and it's
00:31:12.320
Like when somebody is doing something wrong and you point it out and they're like, you're
00:31:17.380
And to the point where it's like, we'll just take your bank away.
00:31:19.740
We'll, we'll, you know, you won't be able to live peacefully.
00:31:22.680
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So the first scenario is probably if it's not the most popular, it's the most, it's the most
00:32:09.880
publicized and that it is the idea that it's, this is going to happen either right before
00:32:16.200
or at the very beginning of the tribulation period.
00:32:18.960
And again, as you said, as we talked about previously, the beginning, the tribulation
00:32:24.560
begins, the seven year period begins when the antichrist, this world leader confirms this
00:32:32.860
And you will see this scenario called the Russian scenario.
00:32:37.480
They believe that the, that Gog Magog will be a Russian led coalition that will come against
00:32:45.780
Well, they, well, first of all, it, it, it says that, you know, the enemy is coming Gog
00:32:51.980
in the land of Magog is from the uttermost North, the furthest North.
00:32:55.360
So if you take, if you put your, if you take a map out and put your finger on Israel and
00:32:59.740
just go directly North, you run into Russia, actually almost directly into Moscow, depending
00:33:03.900
on, I don't know if it's the same on the flat earth map, because I know the flat earthers
00:33:09.200
like to give me a hard time whenever I talk about maps or glow, but either way, it's North.
00:33:15.900
I was, uh, again, reading through the book of revelation, but, uh, chapter one, 16, God
00:33:22.360
He says that, uh, he's going to, he, he puts the lights in the sky and, uh, here, what is
00:33:30.400
And God made two great lights, the greater one to rule the day, the lesser to rule the
00:33:35.860
And I was just thinking about like, uh, I don't know if you saw the moon, if it's the
00:33:39.040
same by you, but the moon yesterday and the day before was just, it was huge.
00:33:43.880
It lit up my entire yard, like daylight, but a putrid daylight, disgusting, very creepy.
00:33:49.040
And then I was like, what the hell is that thing?
00:33:52.280
And then I, you know, I remember that scripture from the Bible started reading again, went
00:33:57.180
Did you see, I posted a video, um, and I just said that it was really cool looking, but it
00:34:02.480
was like, basically somebody got, uh, a notification from their buddy said, Hey, go outside.
00:34:10.240
And so the guy goes outside with his camera and finds that like, there's a bunch of other
00:34:14.060
people out on the street as well, looking up at the moon and they're recording it.
00:34:20.360
The dialogue and the chatter in the background.
00:34:22.560
And then all of the sudden, uh, a green horizontal burst of electricity comes out, uh, one from
00:34:31.660
one side of the moon, almost as if it was behind the moon, uh, like a green lightning bolt travels
00:34:37.560
And the reaction by everybody who was watching it also sounded very genuine.
00:34:42.680
And I don't know what to make of it, but I just know that it's been a very strange, uh,
00:34:47.760
I mean, even with this meteor that was supposed to have been, uh, passing close enough to
00:34:52.620
earth that they, the, the headlines were saying it would appear as a, a second moon essentially.
00:35:00.900
I don't know what it is, but even in the Bible, it's like, it says that the lights, uh, will
00:35:06.040
the lights in the sky, the moon and the sun will race back and forth as if they're moving
00:35:23.680
It says it there for, for signs and for seasons and, and, you know, people have been going nuts
00:35:28.440
on, on, on, especially on YouTube with all these things like, yeah, all these signs are
00:35:31.940
happening, these blood moons and these tetrads and these eclipses and these, all these signs
00:35:36.780
And are they, are they much to do about nothing or are they, are they really signs?
00:35:42.320
I don't have the expertise in that, but, um, you know, but there's apparently a lot's been
00:35:48.860
And that's why people have been thinking that something big is going to happen in, you
00:35:52.000
know, before either this month or before the end of the year.
00:35:55.060
You know, the funk we, before we started the show, we were all talking about just, we were
00:35:59.080
just all grieving about how, how funky our lives have been the last, I don't know, a couple
00:36:06.940
And, uh, I know that there was some like electromagnetic, uh, disturbance in whatever kind of field that
00:36:14.800
And, uh, I feel like that has something to do with this.
00:36:18.000
And then that, that also corresponds with the, the largest moon, the harvest moon or
00:36:22.560
the hunter's moon, just like a couple of days later.
00:36:25.280
And then storm natural disaster after natural disaster.
00:36:30.060
And I think we're either in or about to go into the last piece of piece of tabernacles
00:36:34.440
and just, just everything is happening at once.
00:36:37.800
And again, it may, it may totally be coincidental that these things happen or are happening the
00:36:45.240
We just had, uh, two craft, uh, shout out to red beard in the chat who, who just brought
00:36:50.360
But it was like only a couple of days ago, we had this gigantic military size, like military
00:36:59.200
And I thought they were too, uh, I thought it was the same instance of, uh, what people
00:37:04.960
were reporting in North Carolina too, where they also saw something crash land, uh, in
00:37:14.160
I mean, it was, it was two separate events within 24 hours of each other, dude.
00:37:21.300
Um, and there were so many reports, so many different angles, definitively a gigantic military
00:37:28.520
One guy said that after it passed over his head completely on fire, it was really like,
00:37:33.400
it looked like a giant flaming Eagle was falling out of the sky.
00:37:37.660
This is like what they're, they're like, it was a chariot of fire, dude.
00:37:40.320
And it was just going, that's, it looked insane.
00:37:42.620
And then he goes, and after it passed over me, a, a craft bigger than any aircraft I've
00:37:47.840
ever seen in my life, um, passed low over my car in the direction of the, the, the crashed,
00:37:58.680
And I'm like, dude, I, and, and this is coming from so many different people.
00:38:02.840
Definitively something happened, definitively something crash landed, but yeah, I don't,
00:38:07.360
uh, it just feels like we're getting bombarded with so many things at once.
00:38:11.160
And I don't know if it's because we're closing in on the election cycle or if there's something
00:38:15.440
else, which I would, I would put my money on the something else we talked about it the
00:38:19.700
I think the question is, is the election cycle scheduled around this time period and like
00:38:25.580
every, in these increments on purpose, because these things will happen or are they happening
00:38:34.760
Like you said, we were talking before the show about how we're all in a funk.
00:38:37.440
I've just, I've been in this weird space for like the last few weeks and I thought, well,
00:38:41.080
maybe, maybe it's just me, man, but I talking to you guys and seeing you guys were in a similar
00:38:44.780
kind of funk and other people are like, that's, I don't know.
00:38:47.380
It's just the last couple of weeks, even before, like, you know, rest in peace, Brody, before
00:38:53.220
I just, I think I might've told David, I definitely told my wife, but I'm like, I just have this
00:39:10.980
Honestly, uh, and we'll dismount from this, but if you are in the chat and you, you've had,
00:39:15.400
cause I just, everybody that I've been talking to is like, yeah, me too.
00:39:18.520
And I don't know if that's confirmation bias or it's just like, you know, we're dealing with
00:39:21.940
a small sample size of people, but everybody that I've bumped into is like, yeah, these past
00:39:27.240
I've been struggling with like anxiety and pull that up.
00:39:36.300
Cause I, I've held onto this and I haven't read it out loud yet.
00:39:40.280
I feel like this is one of the things that I'm like, uh, I don't want to go off.
00:39:47.980
But like, this is, I feel like this is a thing that you don't use until you should use
00:39:53.260
I'm not going to use it for some minor inconvenience, you know, like sales aren't so good on top
00:39:58.620
So let me do my spiritual warfare prayer, but it's seeming like, uh, now it's like, it's,
00:40:06.480
You're in a situation and you have a gun on you.
00:40:08.540
This is Florida stuff and you're watching and you're watching and you're watching.
00:40:12.060
I'm not going to just like somebody start, someone pushes another guy and I'm like, blah,
00:40:18.060
Like, I feel like I'm about to pull my gun at this point.
00:40:21.460
The feeling that I've been getting is like hunker down and it'll pass, but we're, we're
00:40:45.360
So, so the first idea that again, it's some type of Russian led scenario.
00:40:49.980
So it, because it says that, um, this is enemy from the uttermost North.
00:40:55.960
If, if you look at, at a map also, uh, and this is, this is a, something that is, that
00:41:01.860
is shared by a lot of, you know, mainstream eschatological teachers, like my old mentor,
00:41:05.900
Chuck Missler, um, Jack Van Impey, who I believe is, I'm sure he passed away.
00:41:10.580
So I'm sure he's, he's gone now, but he, he would talk about it after David, Jeremiah,
00:41:14.620
uh, uh, uh, uh, Tim LaHaye, a lot of these folks believe that, um, that this is going
00:41:20.480
to be a Russian led federation and that they're going to come down and, and come down after
00:41:26.740
And also because when I mentioned before, they says that the, uh, the chief prince of
00:41:30.460
Rosh now in, in, in certain translations of the Bible, um, that the Gog is called the
00:41:35.760
chief prince of Rosh and Magog, so Rosh, yes, and like Van Impey was very famous for saying,
00:41:41.640
well, you know, Rosh is very similar to, to Rusk or, which is the root word for Russia.
00:41:46.280
Um, Magog, some believe that Magog was a descendant, a descendant of Japheth.
00:41:52.660
He, um, is, that his descendants went north, um, towards, towards the Russian area.
00:41:59.140
And also the, um, Meshach sounds kind of like Moscow.
00:42:04.900
Meshach, Moscow, okay, well, we'll see, but those are some of the reasons.
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And of course, you look at the other nations that are involved, Iran, Iran and Russia are
00:42:47.000
They have, you know, all these mutual, um, the mutual, uh, great aggression, uh, treaties
00:42:52.380
that if you attack one, then the other has to jump in Northern Africa.
00:42:55.620
Um, and, um, East, I'm sorry, North Africa, East Africa, there are, there are Islamic nations
00:43:01.400
And, um, you know, Turkey, Turkey used to be on the side of the West, you know, 20, 30
00:43:06.340
years ago, but they're, they're more and more, um, tilting towards being, um, on, on the
00:43:20.380
So the scenario is like you said, uh, Dave, the belief is that when the Antichrist confirms
00:43:25.300
this covenant with Israel, that it will be a peace aspect of it.
00:43:28.480
And maybe even, um, something about rebuilding the temple, because we know the temple has
00:43:33.020
to be in effect during the tribulation because the Antichrist is going to desecrate it.
00:43:39.880
I'm sorry, Ed, but I also got to say something too, kind of important here.
00:43:46.780
If you're not paying attention to geopolitical stuff and also monetary policy, the BRICS, uh,
00:43:52.140
the BRICS summit is set to take place on October.
00:43:56.840
The Russian president will host a BRICS summit in Kazan from October 22nd to the 24th.
00:44:01.560
So that's a couple of days that is going to determine if these countries, so China, Iran,
00:44:07.320
Russia, if they're going to go off of the fiat currency dollar standard that we're using.
00:44:13.060
And I think they want to use some kind of ruble that's going to be backed by gold, which
00:44:16.640
makes a lot more sense, but that will, that is, I mean, just a huge catastrophe for anybody
00:44:23.740
that's on this fiat currency, which is all of us in the entire world, really, except for
00:44:28.680
these guys who will be jumping off nicely into something else.
00:44:31.840
So to add to that, um, really upsetting narrative that we're painting.
00:44:39.280
Um, we were just, it wasn't long ago that top and I, we were almost feverishly following
00:44:48.400
Uh, you know, and that kind of, as far as I'm concerned, the last article that I read
00:44:52.980
about it, the reason they stopped publicizing anything having to do with it is because
00:44:57.140
people started to get upset because, you know, this is a fulfillment of prophecy.
00:45:00.500
They're going to burn these heifers, sacrifice them, use the ashes to sanctify the tools and
00:45:06.660
And you can bet your bottom dollar that that didn't stop.
00:45:09.880
We just stopped seeing it publicly because it was getting undesirable, um, eyes on it,
00:45:17.460
You know, we're still, it just feels like all these things are, are all meeting, you know,
00:45:23.480
It's little pieces of a puzzle that are starting to come together.
00:45:26.300
I was on a podcast earlier this week and someone was asking me about that, you know,
00:45:29.740
same thing that you just said, uh, Dave, that they started talking, they stopped talking
00:45:34.940
I think they, they, they already burned those heifers because I think they had like a deadline
00:45:39.900
of like this year for them to be in the right age range.
00:45:43.200
It was five months ago, like five, seven months ago, the last articles that I'm seeing from,
00:45:58.940
But to Ed's point, yeah, there is a deadline on these things because they have to be of
00:46:04.760
And you just think about the way that the rabbis were celebrating when they finally found the
00:46:09.260
Uh, if you look back in it, it had been an incredible amount of time since the last time
00:46:15.860
And this time, like, I think upwards of five made it, I don't know how many made the cut.
00:46:19.600
I know at one point it was whittled down to three because, you know, some of them, yeah,
00:46:23.220
they developed some blemishes or what have you.
00:46:25.380
But, um, this is such a monumental moment for the people that have been waiting for this.
00:46:34.300
Yeah, I think they just didn't want to, you know, inflame anyone even more.
00:46:38.900
But speaking of, I think that if this scenario is correct, where that the Antichrist confirmed
00:46:43.180
his covenant, and part of that scenario is the rebuilding of the temple, well, that's
00:46:47.440
going to piss off pretty much everyone in the Middle East.
00:46:51.480
Um, and, and it looks like at this time that Persia, Iran will not, will still be around.
00:46:56.460
Interesting that the other nations surrounding Israel aren't named.
00:46:59.260
Nothing about Lebanon, nothing about Jordan, nothing about, um, you know, uh, nothing,
00:47:07.800
So that could mean that as part of this, there was all, maybe there was already a war, a regional
00:47:12.760
war that happened and wiped out a lot of Israel's enemies aside from, um, Iran, Persia, because
00:47:19.440
there's, there are prophecies in, in Jeremiah and in Isaiah that says that, you know, Damascus
00:47:24.360
is going to be destroyed and never be inhabited again.
00:47:29.260
There are, there are, um, um, there are prophecies that again, that a lot of these surrounding
00:47:35.600
areas are going to be destroyed and none of them are named in this, in this scenario.
00:47:42.420
Maybe that's part of the whole quote unquote peace treaty or, or, or peace covenant that
00:47:48.740
So now you have to just Israel, you have to disarm and you'll, and you'll have to be
00:47:56.240
Well, they, uh, you know, Israel, they have a certain map that is called, let me see if
00:48:03.380
So they basically like, this is what we own, but it goes like into Iraq, Saudi Arabia and
00:48:12.660
If you, if you actually look at the landmass that was promised to Israel, he said that God
00:48:16.640
told Abraham that I'm giving your descendants the land from the river of Egypt, the Nile river
00:48:21.300
to the Euphrates, that's, that's, but yeah, that's it.
00:48:26.680
That is what, what, what is believed to be the actual land grant that God gave to Abraham.
00:48:32.660
And of course, when they went to the promised land, they, they, they, you know, they fought
00:48:36.740
They, they got part of the land and they just got tired of fighting and say, you know what?
00:48:40.640
So, so, so the Israelites never possessed all the land that God promised them.
00:48:45.820
So some people say that when he can, that when the Antichrist confirms a covenant, is
00:48:52.320
Is he saying, I'm going to give you the land that God promised to Abraham?
00:48:56.880
That's like a, you know, him, him tempting Jesus.
00:48:59.540
Like I'll give you a, you know, the entire world.
00:49:02.780
And remember that the, the people in Israel, the Jews will consider him, they're a messianic
00:49:07.780
They'll consider him as their messiah until he, you know, does the abomination of desolation.
00:49:11.420
So if that happens, so now, you know, so now this is, this is the possibility of you,
00:49:17.180
of, of Israel being at peace with them being enforced because their surrounding enemies
00:49:22.220
And maybe they have the Antichrist and some type of supernatural protection that he promises
00:49:26.980
And they say, okay, we'll lay down our arms or our Messiah.
00:49:29.900
And if that happens, then the lights are going to go out for a few weeks and Israel is going
00:49:37.780
And so that will inflame the, the other Islamic entities around it, like, you know, Iran and
00:49:46.000
that will bring in Russia because it says that in, in, in the passage we read that God says,
00:49:52.540
I'm going to put hooks into your jaw and I'm going to drag you down.
00:49:55.140
So, so if this is a Russian coalition, it's, they're reluctant.
00:49:59.060
They don't want to do it, but they are, they're bound by treaty.
00:50:01.700
And then after this happens, you know, God kicks the crap out of them so that they will
00:50:07.900
Remember that's, that's God's reason for doing this.
00:50:10.080
They're saying, and well, the reason for the invasion, it says for plunder.
00:50:14.460
So they want whatever riches Israel has, right?
00:50:19.180
Well, they're, you know, they're, they're a well-to-do nation, but right now I, I couldn't
00:50:24.320
say off the top of my head what they have that people would want to take.
00:50:26.800
There are rumors that there's oil somewhere in Israel or, or if they get that whole land,
00:50:32.560
that land grab, not land grab that, you know, the, the land grant, they'd have the oil of
00:50:43.380
And also it says that they'll be burning their weapons for seven years.
00:50:46.880
So whenever you see seven years, you know, if you're in eschatology, that perks up seven
00:50:51.100
Oh, so that means that from the duration of the tribulation.
00:50:53.900
So that's why a lot of people believe it's going to happen at the beginning of the
00:50:56.980
That would be the seven years that they are burning these weapons for fuel.
00:50:59.820
And if the fire that God rains down on them is nuclear, then, and, and, but they don't
00:51:07.080
Cause remember God says he's going to make their weapons worthless.
00:51:09.080
So you just have, maybe have these missiles falling out of the sky and don't explode.
00:51:12.480
So now you got uranium, plutonium, you can take that and put it in your reactor.
00:51:17.420
So that's, so those are the reasons for it briefly for why some people believe it's going
00:51:28.600
There's a, there's this cool overlap there with, uh, well, I mean, we think that aliens
00:51:32.980
are, uh, the Nephilim or fallen angels, who knows what they are, but definitely not good.
00:51:37.320
But there's an overlap where they'll fly over these nuclear reactor sites throughout history
00:51:42.860
When tensions are pretty high, you know, Russia's about to push the button and something happens.
00:51:46.800
Well, we just had NASA came out with an article talking about, uh, once again, that they are
00:51:56.260
This was around the same time that these things fell out of the sky.
00:51:59.600
Uh, what less than a week ago, less than a week ago, this just happened.
00:52:03.180
It seems like both sides of this spiritual war, because if God is saying that, that, well,
00:52:08.620
he'll, you know, he'll render your weapons useless.
00:52:11.000
Both sides of this spiritual war, uh, there's something to whatever nuclear powers.
00:52:15.100
I'm not so sure that the nuclear bomb itself is as big as we were making it, but there's
00:52:20.300
something to the nuclear, the, the ability of nuclear power.
00:52:23.520
And maybe the kind of energy that it is that the spiritual battle between both sides is
00:52:30.420
And it does look like, uh, kind of we're leading towards this scenario right now.
00:52:34.460
You can see it's like every couple of weeks we get this video of, of all these ballistic
00:52:40.220
strikes, uh, either happening in Israel or, or Israel committing these, these, uh, you know,
00:52:49.520
So based off of what you're describing here, it sounds a lot like we're going to see, um,
00:52:55.900
Israel sort of maybe potentially lay waste, uh, to another country in, in one of the biggest
00:53:03.300
And this will, because of that, the world will react in such a way.
00:53:07.720
Number one, stripping Israel of its nuclear power, maybe forcing their hand into converting
00:53:13.600
And then, uh, also ushering in this like era of peace, right?
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And so through one negotiation or another, uh, yeah, we enter in these sort of peace times.
00:53:58.600
And so, and so basically once this, this war happens and they're supernaturally defeated,
00:54:05.240
it says, you know, then they will know that I am God because right now Israel is mostly
00:54:09.900
And so then they'll say, okay, now, now, now we will know, now the nations will know
00:54:14.060
that this is, that the God of the Bible is real.
00:54:18.880
So let's look at some of the cons against this.
00:54:21.180
One of the main cons of the Russian coalition is that there's very scant evidence that Russia
00:54:28.040
First of all, let's keep in mind from a contemporary standpoint, when Ezekiel wrote this, there's
00:54:32.040
There were, you know, or, or Northern Europe for that matter, they were, you know, there
00:54:36.880
were a few, you know, scattered tribes here and there, but they were basically barbarians
00:54:40.380
and like the, uh, what do you call the, the Scythians in, and on the Southern steps of
00:54:47.460
If you were to say that to an ancient Israel, you're like, what?
00:54:49.880
There's no, there's, there's no civilization up there who were, you know, what are we talking
00:54:54.340
Also, Rosh may sound like Russia or Rusk, but Rosh is not a, a place.
00:55:01.100
And there's, there's no place in ancient times called Rosh.
00:55:03.740
And the wreck, the correct interpretation was the one you put up top and I was reading
00:55:07.860
Rosh just means the chief or the head, just like, you know, Rosh Hashanah means head
00:55:12.180
That's what, that's what new year, the Jewish new year.
00:55:14.540
So Rosh has nothing to do with Russia, even though it sounds similar.
00:55:23.320
I mean, gum, G-U-M and gun, G-U-N sounds similar, but they're very different.
00:55:29.180
I mean, if you're going to the airport through TSA and they say, what do you have in your,
00:55:35.220
But if I say I have guns, well, that's going to become very different reaction, even though
00:55:40.920
So that's not really good philology just because things sound the same in different languages.
00:55:45.620
So there's, there's really nothing to, to, to pay us on to Russia, except for the idea
00:55:53.240
However, if you look at the actual word translated, um, uttermost north is the word, I mean, I got
00:55:59.020
this one from Dr. Michael Heiser, who's, who does the series on the Gog Magog war.
00:56:03.520
It's that word for uttermost north is Safan or Safan.
00:56:15.880
It's basically where the evil Elohim, the fallen angels dwell.
00:56:21.340
If you were to ask an ancient Israelite, what do they mean by Safan?
00:56:23.760
They would mean, they would think they would say Mount Hermon or Mount Bashan, which is in
00:56:27.180
the Northern part of Israel, but it's the spiritual north, not the physical north.
00:56:33.120
The word specifically used is Safan, which is, again, not directional.
00:56:35.960
It means a place of darkness, a place of spiritual darkness.
00:56:42.300
It meaning that Gog, whoever he is, is a supernatural being.
00:56:46.900
A fallen angel or something, or maybe even the, or a Nephilim or the Antichrist.
00:56:53.220
So there's really nothing, nothing in the scripture that really points directly to Russia.
00:56:59.000
Even, you know, the land of Magog, that's Turkey.
00:57:03.760
Is this why, is this why people think the Antichrist will be of that, like Russian descent,
00:57:12.320
I think some people take it that way because they're extrapolating it onto, onto this war,
00:57:16.520
which again, there's, there's, I, there's no really compelling reason to believe that
00:57:21.220
it has anything to do with, with, with Russia from, from this, from that contemporary standpoint,
00:57:26.620
Because again, once you take the Sivan, the North off the table, there's, there's nothing
00:57:34.920
Because it can only happen during our lifetimes or the last hundred years.
00:57:39.260
Because up until, you know, after World War II, Russia was never a world power.
00:57:45.040
They were, they were pretty much a backwater right up until the end of the war.
00:57:49.300
And then they became technologically advanced, mostly because we gave them this stuff.
00:57:54.860
We, there, there's a book that I recommend people read called The Naked Communist.
00:58:01.300
It's really about breaking down what communism is.
00:58:04.520
There are no, no, no hot Estonian girls in the book.
00:58:07.520
It's, it's, it's, it's talks about how Russia went from being, again, a backwater.
00:58:12.880
There, there was, there was a story in there about, you know, when, at the end of World
00:58:16.060
War II on the Eastern front, when the Russians, uh, or Russian army invaded, um, Germany from
00:58:20.760
the East, when the soldiers saw toilets, they started dipping their bread in them because
00:58:25.200
they thought they were serving bowls because they were just backwards.
00:58:29.520
They, they were not a civilized country, but what turns out that the American communists
00:58:35.440
gave them all of our technology and that's how they went from being a backwater to suddenly
00:58:42.540
But, you know, that's, that's something if you, if you're into the Cold War stuff, but,
00:58:45.780
but what that means is that, you know, the, this scenario could not have happened anytime
00:58:49.800
before like 1950 and, and who knows if 50 years from now, Russia will still be a world
00:58:55.980
So it basically limits God performing this during a time when Russia is a power.
00:59:00.300
And again, that's, we're, we're over contemporary, uh, over-contemporalizing it because we want to
00:59:07.320
make everything about us and about America and about our current sociopolitical world.
00:59:12.960
That feels a lot more applicable though, because as we were talking about it in the beginning,
00:59:17.460
I, you know, my mind just keeps going to like borders change and the names of places change
00:59:25.300
Uh, and so the idea that this is actually referring to a spiritual place is in my mind,
00:59:35.000
And that's kind of like, so that scripture that I brought up randomly, you know, this is God
00:59:38.700
placed two great lights in, uh, on, in the sky, the sun and the moon and the stars and
00:59:45.340
We kind of, I think we, we've spoken about them being possibly the angels and the ones
00:59:50.620
Like when, when he removes them and brings them down to the earth, are those like, we,
00:59:54.800
we kind of said that those might be stars and they fall down to the earth physically.
01:00:01.360
I, I think that, that the stars we see in the sky are a representation of our, our physical
01:00:09.120
representation of the Elohim in the, in the heavenly realms, in the spiritual realms.
01:00:15.660
So if the solar, does that mean that we're going to actually see them straight down to
01:00:24.140
If you believe that if you're, you know, of the, of the round earth or the globe theory,
01:00:31.900
They would, it would be like, you know, a beach ball falling on a marble.
01:00:36.820
I guess if you're, but if you're on the flatter side, the stars are probably tiny and it wouldn't
01:00:40.360
be that big a deal, but I think what's going to happen is that they may disappear from the
01:00:43.820
sky and then these entities materialize on our earth because they're cast out and they
01:00:49.780
I think we talked about this during the, uh, the revelation, uh, chapter six, that scenario
01:00:54.980
So the other con against, um, the, I guess this, uh, pre or early tribulation scenario
01:01:03.420
is again, the idea that Israel is completely at peace.
01:01:07.880
I mean, just because this treaty is signed, you think, you think Israel's just going to,
01:01:11.520
okay, we're, we're giving up all of our weapons.
01:01:12.980
I guess he could be forced on them, but that's, it will be a dramatic change from what we've
01:01:23.100
Well, what if there was, uh, is there any precedent for their, their messianic figure,
01:01:34.220
Um, they're, they believe that their Messiah, their Moshiach is going to rule the world.
01:01:40.040
So if it depends on it, so if the Antichrist has a lock on the world and he can say, Hey,
01:01:44.160
you cannot touch Israel and he is the ruler, then, okay, that's possible.
01:01:47.860
But then obviously it's not that strong if that, if this is the right scenario, because
01:01:51.420
you get, you still have these nations coming against Israel.
01:01:53.560
So apparently they're disobeying their dictator, which is, again, is another, um, you know,
01:01:59.820
con against the, this, um, particular scenario or this, this theory of when it happens.
01:02:09.600
And that is that the, uh, God may God, where it's a part of the Armageddon scenario.
01:02:14.740
Um, so the pros to that is that it's, it, it specifically says that, um, to that God can
01:02:23.460
make God, he said that at the, during the latter days, you'll be visited by something visited,
01:02:28.560
visited means it's going to be a supernatural visitation.
01:02:30.520
And we, we, we saw during the bowls of wrath that these, um, these spirit, these demons that
01:02:36.300
look like frogs are going to come out of the mouth of the false prophet, the Antichrist and
01:02:39.960
the dragon are going to go around the world to deceive the world.
01:02:43.660
So there's that, um, it says that the, the birds of the air in Ezekiel, uh, 39, that the
01:02:50.440
birds of the air are going to devour the flesh of all these people.
01:02:52.640
Well, that happens in the Armageddon scenario that we just went over last time that when
01:02:56.140
Jesus is going to speak the word, they're going to all die.
01:02:58.000
And the, and the vultures are going to be filled with their flesh.
01:03:00.860
Also, we saw at the end of chapter 38 of Ezekiel, that there's going to be earthquakes and
01:03:05.560
And that the earth is going to be utterly shaken.
01:03:08.900
Well, that happens at, at the, um, at the last bowl of wrath, which is, you know, right
01:03:16.220
Um, and then it says in Armageddon, we have all the nations coming to Israel.
01:03:22.600
And yes, the nations that are named in, in Ezekiel 38 and 39, they are specific nations.
01:03:29.320
But if you look at it from, they actually represent North, South, Eastern, West.
01:03:33.380
So for you, so if you extrapolate that out to all the different colonies that have been,
01:03:38.300
that have been established from these nations, yeah, it sounds like all the, you could, you
01:03:42.040
could easily argue that this means that all the world is coming against Israel.
01:03:48.220
So they, so those are some really, um, compelling reasons to believe that the God may gog scenario
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This is, and, and people like Michael Heiser believe that, um, Hal Lindsey, writer of the
01:04:32.400
late great planet Earth, he makes it part of that scenario as well.
01:04:39.520
One of the main cons is that the Bible makes it very clear in Ezekiel 38 and 39 that these
01:04:50.640
Well, that's not what's happening to Armageddon.
01:04:56.680
When all the water in the world is turned to blood and all the, and this earthquake has
01:05:02.460
They're not coming there to take Israel's stuff.
01:05:05.680
To wipe out the remaining Jews so they can't call on Jesus.
01:05:08.420
And also to, as we talked about in our last session, to invade heaven, to, to invade the
01:05:17.360
Also, you have the seven years of burning weapons.
01:05:22.560
I suppose Jesus could say, well, you know, we've got to get the earth back together.
01:05:26.160
So let's burn these weapons for seven years while, while we clean everything up possible.
01:05:30.240
But I don't know if Jesus is going to use nuclear fuel or whatever kind of fuel.
01:05:35.080
I mean, possible, but that's not too clear about that.
01:05:37.820
And again, the reason that God supernaturally judges is that, so that the nations will know
01:05:46.320
Well, at this point in the tribulation, I don't think there's very much doubt about who
01:05:54.800
I don't think people say, oh, I wonder if there's a God.
01:05:57.780
They may not like him, but they're going to know he's a God.
01:06:01.180
Unless what that means is he's just emphasizing that he is God.
01:06:04.980
But when you read the, the, the, the verses, and especially in chapter 39, it looks like
01:06:11.660
he's, he's establishing that he's God, not that, not reinforcing it.
01:06:19.900
And then lastly, the judgment is that God is going to rain down fire from heaven to destroy
01:06:26.000
But in the Armageddon scenario, Jesus speaks words and their, and armies are destroyed.
01:06:30.520
It could be both, but you know, it's, it, it doesn't speak about fire from God coming
01:06:38.340
So there are some good reasons to believe that it's possible, that it's part of the scenario.
01:06:45.400
One of the things that lends itself to it, or at least not necessarily being in an Armageddon
01:06:51.500
scenario, but, or, uh, uh, uh, uh, end time scenario, but could be something that we see
01:06:56.780
soon is that, um, the, the cultural conversation is shifting in such a way as to, um, how do
01:07:08.220
Well, the Jews getting kicked out of 109, 110 countries.
01:07:13.580
Now, I think the 110th one just happened relatively recently.
01:07:16.800
And, um, so when you have this idea of like the nations turning on Israel, uh, and you
01:07:22.920
look at the cultural dialogue that's happening right now, especially on places like Twitter,
01:07:27.420
I can see the sentiment that leads to something like that.
01:07:32.380
What starts as a cultural conversation evolves to a conversation that's being had in the world
01:07:37.820
And I could see, um, you know, that, that we're right now in what I would consider sort
01:07:45.020
Um, but I mean, does that necessarily mean that we're in those end times or that this
01:07:53.360
Not necessarily, but it does seem like something that could happen soon in our lifetime.
01:07:59.160
I, I, I, I think that a lot of this is going to happen in our life.
01:08:01.880
I could be wrong because most, I think almost everyone has always believed that their generation
01:08:06.860
was the last one, but I mean, just the way things are accelerating.
01:08:09.320
I mean, it's yeah, if we're here for another 50 years and I don't, I don't, well, I won't
01:08:14.320
be because I'm not going to live another 50 years just because of my age now, but this
01:08:19.440
world is going to, I don't know what this world's going to look like.
01:08:21.600
Cause I feel like we're on the brink right now.
01:08:24.880
I, we, we keep talking about this election cycle and how things are ramping up, but things
01:08:31.100
Uh, top and I often joke about how, um, the news cycle, you used to say like, Hey, people
01:08:35.940
will forget about this in a month and people will forget about this in a week and people
01:08:39.720
But now it's like, I almost feel like in a 24, 24 hours is, is maybe, uh, being a little
01:08:47.020
I almost feel like it's less than 24 hours because multiple things happen in one day.
01:08:51.280
And by the next day, multiple things happen that day.
01:08:54.040
And you've forgotten about what, I mean, we just talked about it here.
01:08:56.340
It's like, we didn't even know things fell out of the sky in DC.
01:08:58.360
And NASA said that, uh, you know, UFOs are taking an interest in nuclear facilities again.
01:09:03.560
And, um, so what I wonder is this condensing of events that we're seeing as we approach
01:09:09.680
the election cycle, it's, it might not be outlandish to ask, is this the new normal cycle that we're
01:09:17.920
Like, does this go away after the election or are we in what people would consider like
01:09:23.180
the quickening like this, this time where things are just speeding up exponentially, um,
01:09:28.160
maybe we really are about to enter a place where we no longer laugh about how it's a
01:09:33.700
Maybe it really will be just a constant bombardment.
01:09:37.720
I mean, I don't want to sound like a, you know, a black pillar.
01:09:41.080
Uh, but it's just, I hadn't considered that until this moment because it's like, if things
01:09:45.240
are truly ramping up, if we are going to see these things in our lifetime, which I share
01:09:48.300
that sentiment with you, um, then it would make sense in my opinion that like, it doesn't
01:09:55.220
Maybe this is to use an expression that we're probably all sick and tired of hearing ever
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I think that I don't see any reason why they would slow down.
01:10:37.740
I just think it's just going to keep speeding up until we reach some kind of singularity.
01:10:42.920
Man, this is, first off, let me just say, I'm going to take a side really quick, but
01:10:48.360
And, uh, we actually, we're on a, yeah, I agree.
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And we're behind Alex Jones and some other guy.
01:11:04.480
Uh, so Alex Jones, we're never going to beat him there at 17,000, but Hey, congratulations.
01:11:10.600
They're arguing with each other about the little season.
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Oh, well, yeah, that's why I got to, we got to find a way to keep this going.
01:11:21.300
Well, it seems like we're going to have a lot more to talk about if, uh, if what we
01:11:25.820
just said comes to pass, you know, it'd be fun to maybe just, uh, go and watch, uh,
01:11:30.300
Jordan Peterson series on like the book of Genesis and the book of Exodus and just dissect
01:11:39.820
I'm like, how, like, it's just a, such a flaccid, non-meaningful interpretation.
01:11:44.520
He's like, well, what do you mean by believe we have to, but like, dude, there's, there's
01:11:54.740
Well, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll find another reason.
01:11:56.900
I think, you know, we, we've probably talked about some possible ideas, but we'll, we'll
01:12:04.840
So I think we'll have, I think we have time to talk about the final one, um, scenario.
01:12:09.120
And that is that the, the God Magog war actually happens during the, at the end of the little
01:12:16.620
season that there is, that this is actually part of that final rebellion.
01:12:20.800
Again, so if you don't mind, can you, can you bring up a revelation chapter 20?
01:12:34.740
He's a, he's a Bigfoot believer, but he's pretty angry.
01:12:51.940
Um, and when the thousand years are expired, and of course, I'm going to start talking about
01:12:55.100
the millennium, um, uh, next week and social makes it a little season people happy, even
01:13:00.300
though they, because they think it happened in the past.
01:13:03.280
Anyway, when a thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loose for, for out of his prison
01:13:06.980
and shall go on to see the nations, which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and
01:13:13.540
The number of whom is like this as, as, as the sand of the sea.
01:13:15.940
And they went up on the breadth of the earth and encompass and compassed or, or compassed
01:13:20.080
rather the camp of the saints about and the beloved city and fire came down from God out
01:13:28.560
So these are obviously some very compelling reasons just right off the top to believe
01:13:35.720
This is the only other place in the Bible where you see Gog and Magog.
01:13:41.680
It says fire comes down from heaven and devours them.
01:13:44.820
Well, we see that in Ezekiel, that God judges them with fire coming down from heaven.
01:13:49.300
Also at the, at the end of the millennium, during the millennium, Israel will be at peace.
01:13:54.040
It will be an unwalled village because there'll be, it's, it's, it's where Jesus, Jesus will
01:14:05.460
It says in Ezekiel, they will, you know, they'll, they'll, they'll beat their, their spears into
01:14:09.760
pruning hooks and their swords into plowshares and they will study war no more.
01:14:13.280
Ironically, that phrase is on, is at the foundation of the, is written in the foundation of the
01:14:17.600
United Nations building, which when there's nothing but warfare going on in there, but
01:14:24.100
Again, we're going to talk about it in detail next week.
01:14:29.060
You have Israel absolutely at peace on walled villages and you also have fire coming out
01:14:35.320
And so those are some really compelling reasons to believe that the Gog Magog scenario occurs
01:14:40.460
at the millennia, at the end of the millennium, but there are also some serious reasons to
01:14:46.640
Number one, um, it says, yeah, that the people, the Gog Magog, all the nations are coming against
01:14:55.280
Now you could still, you could still kind of squeeze that in because, you know, Israel obviously
01:15:00.880
It'll be a very prosperous period during the millennium, but Satan seems to just be wanting
01:15:05.760
to come and destroy, uh, you know, Jesus and his kingdom.
01:15:09.260
He's coming there against Israel because it looks like he just wants to, to, to, to conquer
01:15:14.780
Not necessarily for stuff, but I mean, I, I guess you could, if he did, maybe he deceives
01:15:18.420
the nations by saying, Hey, come up, let's, let's go against Israel.
01:15:21.500
Let's go against, you know, this, this evil dictator, Jesus, who's made your life so miserable
01:15:28.740
Maybe that'll be the deception that he gets to bring the nations.
01:15:32.620
But also it's God's reason for, um, for intervening is that so that the nations will know that
01:15:39.800
Well, after a thousand years of Jesus ruling the world in a supernatural kingdom with,
01:15:45.200
you know, regions who are also the supernatural, uh, resurrected saints.
01:15:49.080
I don't think anyone's going to be doubting that there is a God, especially not Israel,
01:15:54.440
because I guess this is so that Israel will know that there is a God, but again, but if
01:15:57.980
it means just reinforcing that I'm God, because I'm doing what I said I'm going to do, that's
01:16:03.120
But again, that doesn't really fit what, um, what Ezekiel is, is, um, has in his passages
01:16:11.060
And lastly, why would they need to burn weapons for seven years for fuel after the millennium?
01:16:17.040
Cause as we find right after the millennium, there looks like there's, then you have the
01:16:21.060
great white throne judgment and then there's eternity.
01:16:23.340
I don't see why we be hanging out for another seven years after the millennial reign, because
01:16:30.940
Now, maybe there's some scenario where, you know, when the millennium ends, there's not,
01:16:36.000
there will still be on earth for a set amount of time, but there's nothing in the Bible
01:16:41.140
So there, I don't see any reason for them needing to have the seven years of burning weapons.
01:16:51.960
I'll let you guys comment on that and I'll, then I'll kind of wrap up my, my, my ideas.
01:16:56.660
I think it's, those are fair criticisms, right?
01:17:00.000
Um, the idea that everybody's going to know who God is by that time.
01:17:05.640
And also the idea of like, what are we doing for seven years?
01:17:12.220
And if the, I think this is one of those situations, right?
01:17:14.620
Where it's like, I appreciate your willingness and to explore the ideas.
01:17:19.760
Well, maybe there could be a reason or something who knows what will come to pass.
01:17:24.460
But like you keep saying, there's no biblical precedent for it.
01:17:27.500
And this goes back to something that you mentioned often, where it's like trying to bend the Bible
01:17:32.400
to fit your beliefs rather than your beliefs to fit the Bible.
01:17:35.700
Um, if there's no precedent, then there's no precedent and anything else beyond that is
01:17:39.320
And, you know, you'd have to jump through some hoops to try to explain why on earth someone
01:17:43.480
would, you know, why are they burning their weapons for seven years?
01:17:48.420
And then, and then eternity is on the other side of that.
01:17:51.640
I don't understand what, what the point would be.
01:17:53.700
So it's when, when I'm reading the scripture, it doesn't even make sense to me.
01:17:57.140
So it's like, so he'll be loosed, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison and shall go out
01:18:01.880
to deceive the nations, which are in the four quarters of the earth.
01:18:07.240
So he'll, uh, which are, which are in the four corners of the earth to gather them together
01:18:12.600
But like Gog and Magog are just kind of like put in there.
01:18:17.560
It just, just represents, you know, the, the, the idea of, of, of just all the nations of
01:18:28.540
It's interesting too, the use of, of the word Satan there, because we often go back
01:18:32.320
It's like, uh, Satan in, in my estimation, which is, you know, certainly not a, a well
01:18:39.160
researched one, but it seems like Satan is, um, a title, a title, and that it's held at
01:18:47.060
different times by different, more than likely fallen angels.
01:18:50.220
Uh, so when you use the term there that, uh, Satan will be freed, then it's like, well,
01:18:56.280
is that to say whoever holds the title of the accuser in this moment will be free?
01:19:02.440
Well, I understand what you're saying, but however, my, my only counter to that is that,
01:19:06.480
um, in Revelation chapter 12, you know, just a few chapters before, um, the prophet John,
01:19:12.620
the prophet, the apostle John specifically says that this Satan is the dragon, the Nakash,
01:19:18.840
So there's specific thing that this one, but, but, but to your point, does it just mean
01:19:25.020
Because again, we saw at the end of the Armageddon scenario that the false prophet and the Antichrist
01:19:32.720
And then Satan, the app, the accuser is put into the bottomless pit.
01:19:38.660
They're either in the lake of fire or in the bottomless pit.
01:19:41.560
And if they were in the bottomless pit, so maybe that means that Satan and all the fallen
01:19:46.860
That would make, then you could have Gog and Magog, because again, Gog is some type of
01:19:52.800
Gog is some type of entity and he, possibly a fallen angel or a Nephilim.
01:19:58.940
So, you know, on this show before you've said that, uh, you think that there's room for the
01:20:03.360
Antichrist to be, uh, uh, non-human in some way.
01:20:07.780
We, we, obviously we've explored the, the idea of like a genetic clone or somebody whose
01:20:12.520
genetics have been altered in such a way as to be able to house what would essentially be
01:20:17.720
But, um, you have this moment now where Elon Musk has rolled out an entire army of, of
01:20:27.120
And, uh, you know, anytime something like that happens at the world stage, I look to
01:20:30.380
see how the pieces might fit into, uh, biblical prophecy.
01:20:34.260
But there are a lot of people that think that the Antichrist will be actually AI.
01:20:38.680
Oh, another Dave, another, uh, aside from here.
01:20:42.500
Cause you just mentioned Nimrod again, we were talking with a paranoid American and Chaney
01:20:46.660
yesterday, and he was telling us about like where he learned from the, the word Nimrod
01:20:50.980
and, and he learned it from Bugs Bunny and it was using a, it was like a derogatory term
01:20:56.380
towards Elmer Fudd who would call him, uh, Oh, he's a, he's a, he's a Nimrod.
01:21:00.340
Like he's like a great hunter, right now go back later.
01:21:04.020
Like before in this episode, we were talking about that moon, that giant moon right now
01:21:17.300
There's a Hunter's moon and the Hunter who would be referred to as Nimrod.
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So with all these scenarios, I guess the question is, which one do I think is correct?
01:22:04.660
And the answer I've got to give you is I don't know.
01:22:11.720
I grew up basically believing the, the pre-trib or early tribulation Gog Magog war.
01:22:20.220
But then when I started, you know, listening to Dr. Heiser and, you know, following a lot
01:22:24.800
of his work, he made, he makes his compelling points by being Armageddon scenario.
01:22:27.820
And then of course you have here with, with, with the millennium, with that scenario seems
01:22:33.520
But the problem is that none of the, all three have pros and cons.
01:22:37.000
All three have reasons to believe in it, but all three, but none of the three fit everything.
01:22:43.780
So, so one of two things, either it's just going to happen in a way that we, we just don't
01:22:54.060
It's like with the rapture, you have these distinct chapters, verses that talk about the
01:23:00.200
rapture having a different point, different points in during vis-a-vis the tribulation
01:23:05.820
So what if there's more than one Armageddon, Gog Magog battle, maybe there's one where they're
01:23:12.880
coming for stuff and maybe there's one where they're just coming to, to conquer Israel.
01:23:19.140
That's, that's, I mean, that's really the best I can do because none of these explanations
01:23:22.740
are without some serious conflicts, if not contradictions.
01:23:32.340
Yeah, it's not that it's open to interpretation, but it's just very, it's kind of vague in what
01:23:37.940
We know that these, these events will occur, but how and where and who the players are is.
01:23:44.540
Or maybe, or maybe it happens in stages, because if you go back, like one of the great chapters
01:23:49.600
in, in, in Ezekiel's chapter 28, where he talks about the, the, the fall of Satan, Lucifer,
01:23:56.360
And remember, he, and he starts by talking about the, the, the Prince of Tyre, and then
01:24:04.320
And then he, then in the same chapter, it goes to the King of Tyre, who was obviously supernatural.
01:24:10.900
So this could Ezekiel 38, 39, be sort of a similar thing where he's talking about a physical
01:24:16.660
battle and a spirit, then in a spiritual battle.
01:24:22.520
And I've not read anyone who, who, who accounts for all the different disparities between them
01:24:30.160
and, and the scenarios in which they could happen in the end times.
01:24:33.760
So, I mean, I hate to, you know, sound like I'm, I'm cop, giving a cop out, but I just,
01:24:37.740
I, I really, I can't be dogmatic about it because I don't know.
01:24:43.560
Here's three possibilities, but all three possibilities have problems, but, but they also have
01:24:55.180
You know, it's, it's salacious to be able to adhere to one thing or another and say definitively,
01:25:04.000
But it's much more fair to say that the information's just not there.
01:25:12.040
But I, I do want to ask you one last thing before we wrap it up.
01:25:16.700
And I know we've talked about this before, but it's just that everything we've been discussing
01:25:22.620
The, the cultural conversation around Jews, the kicked out of 110 countries, um, certainly
01:25:30.320
all the, uh, the war activity that we've been seeing, uh, involving Israel, even the, the
01:25:36.960
notion that the red heifers probably have already been sacrificed, which I think that's a fair
01:25:44.000
Um, I got to ask you with all those things on the table.
01:25:47.380
And I know you've said it before that Donald Trump, in your opinion, doesn't fit the bill.
01:25:51.420
And there's a lot of ways in which I agree that he doesn't fit the bill, but there is
01:25:56.800
And I don't want to tackle all of it, but I just want to say that it looks to me that
01:26:03.580
Many groups within Israel are ready to receive him as their, uh, messianic figure.
01:26:08.080
In fact, there are a lot of groups that outright believe that already.
01:26:13.180
I mean, we, you know, we've gone through it ad nauseum on the show, the, the minting of
01:26:16.920
the coin with him and King Cyrus, uh, the, the song super Trump by the Israeli boys choir,
01:26:23.140
um, the gifting of the crown by the, uh, group of rabbinic Jews, uh, the silver crown that
01:26:33.980
And now this, uh, stance that he's taken against antisemitism, um, where he's, he's basically
01:26:40.560
threatening people who would express antisemitic, uh, uh, you know, ideologies, uh, with some
01:26:47.140
I don't know if it's jail time or something worse than that, but whatever the case may
01:26:49.420
be, there are so many ways in which he is integrally tied to Israel.
01:26:54.320
And I agree with you that there are too many holes in the character of Donald Trump.
01:27:02.500
Um, but it almost seems like they're trying to make him fit the bill.
01:27:13.220
I know I've said this in the past as well, that I think there's always been an antichrist
01:27:18.900
alive in the world from the time of Jesus' death and resurrection to today, because the
01:27:25.060
bad guys, the fallen Elohim, they don't know when the scenario is going to happen.
01:27:30.920
They, they, we have this, I think I've talked about this before.
01:27:33.060
We have this idea that, you know, that Satan is this Machiavellian villain, like the emperor
01:27:36.720
in star Wars or whatever, sitting on his throne with twirling his mustache saying, good,
01:27:43.140
No, they've, they would have, they want us, they wanted to start their, their false apocalypse.
01:27:49.720
Decades, centuries, millennia ago, they're not waiting for anything.
01:27:56.260
They would have started again, a hundred thousand years ago, if they could have, they're not
01:28:02.640
The restrainer who I believe is a Holy spirit because the Holy spirit is the only who can
01:28:05.960
restrain Satan and restrain evil has been restraining them.
01:28:09.880
And I think as the, and as the Holy spirit indwells us Christians is why is, is the strength
01:28:16.680
And I think that the people always say, well, let's look at all these different signs of
01:28:20.760
I'd say the biggest sign of the time to look at is what is the church doing?
01:28:24.000
Because as a church weakens, the influence of the Holy spirit becomes less.
01:28:28.520
And that allows more evil to come into the world.
01:28:30.680
So I think you look at the church and what we're doing.
01:28:32.840
My point of that is, I think that we'd have been an antichrist ready to go at any moment.
01:28:37.600
I think Hitler, if it would have been the antichrist, if the tribulation started then, because
01:28:43.320
And so, so my point is, could Trump be their, their latest incarnation of the person it
01:28:49.800
I know I said, I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
01:28:55.680
I, you know, so I would say, oh, maybe I'm thinking I'm 80%, but I'm sure that he's not
01:29:03.080
the individual is going to be the antichrist, but that means there's 20% chance I could
01:29:08.660
I mean, you make good points, Dave, because when we first brought this to mind, I was like,
01:29:12.040
yeah, no way, but I've listened to what you've said and I've looked more into it and how
01:29:16.100
they view him, um, in that part of the world of how the Israel, Israel, I saw the Jewish
01:29:23.940
You have, there's some points, there's some good points there.
01:29:25.980
So he could be a precursor or maybe, maybe the 20% yes.
01:29:29.960
I just think, I think he's too old, but you know.
01:29:34.160
I mean, he can, he can last another seven years before he, you know, would be, would
01:29:45.280
Like every time it comes up, every time David brings it up and just like, cause I kind of
01:29:50.340
And, uh, he's kind of like America's at this point, America's last hope for slowing, slowing
01:29:57.460
Like there were, things are not going to be great, but I just feel like this guy might be able
01:30:01.840
But with that comes the end of the world, I suppose.
01:30:04.840
Well, you know, what's really obvious it's that whether or not he actually is, um, it's
01:30:10.120
very clear that there are efforts surrounding him to, to make him eligible for candidacy.
01:30:17.280
Which to me speaks to the fact that like, there are people in Israel, in the government
01:30:23.000
and in our own government that think this time is here.
01:30:29.740
I've been, you have to take certain things for the grain of salt when you watch YouTube
01:30:33.700
Um, but, but I've, I've been seeing somewhere where, where people have been reporting that
01:30:38.340
again, the higher high ups of people whose names you don't know, who are, who are connected
01:30:43.720
to the fallen Elohim, they believe it's happening soon and they're preparing for it.
01:30:49.120
You know, honestly, one of the things that when you first again, brought up the idea of
01:30:52.440
Trump being in the Antichrist, I was like, yeah, I don't think so.
01:30:54.280
But then you talked about that book, that little Baron Trump or whatever.
01:31:00.580
And I've seen a few other people talk about these, that, those books, like what the, the
01:31:09.120
Can I just say really quick on, on the topic of those books, they, they weren't discovered.
01:31:14.400
They didn't reach any sort of, uh, uh, major conversation in, in, you know, on the world
01:31:18.560
stage until 2017, which I just find very strange.
01:31:21.800
And I don't know what that means in, in the simplest version of events could be, they
01:31:31.220
It takes nothing to say it was made in the 1800s, but it was, and then you create the Google
01:31:36.660
Cause if you look it up, Ingersoll Lockwood has a body of work, um, and he, you know,
01:31:40.780
was a character that, but like, I have no time machine, I have no way to confirm whether
01:31:45.080
Just the internet and the records tell me he was a character.
01:31:47.740
Well, can they not alter the internet and the records?
01:31:49.720
So when it comes to those books, it could be real or it could be fake, but either one
01:31:54.360
points to just this grooming of a, of a character to fit this bill.
01:31:59.220
I mean, you look at the, the so-called, the so-called Emerald Tablets of Toth that Billy
01:32:02.600
Carson's always talking about, which were, again, those are fabrication that, that happened
01:32:06.140
in, um, what I think, uh, less than a hundred years ago.
01:32:09.540
The guy who did it was a complete fraud actually was researching him and the guy who did it.
01:32:15.900
And, you know, they, he copied these tablets and the tablets just went poof like the...
01:32:20.960
I was going to say to that point, uh, uh, Ed, it's that the, the Ingersoll Lockwood
01:32:26.100
books have more to stand on than the Emerald Tablets because you can see the, the, the
01:32:30.880
Ingersoll Lockwood books, you know, you only have secondhand information, uh, about the
01:32:40.140
So I don't, I don't put much stock in that until we have some Emerald Tablets on display
01:32:47.100
The fact that he told Christians that they need to vote for him and they'll never have to
01:32:55.360
There's Obama coming out and telling me I'm not black if I don't vote for Kamala.
01:33:02.560
Well, first you weren't black if you didn't vote for Biden.
01:33:04.700
Now you're not black if you don't vote for, uh, Kamala.
01:33:07.480
I guess the point is you just, you're just not black.
01:33:09.200
I will tell you that that black Twitter is not happy about it.
01:33:11.340
And they're like, dude, I don't need you to tell me who to vote for.
01:33:17.320
Uh, we've seen everybody just does it anyway, you know?
01:33:23.980
I mean, that, that, that, the whole thing just feels strange with him, but I do agree
01:33:29.620
Um, it's a matter of when it comes to Donald Trump, are we bending the Bible to fit to
01:33:34.840
Donald Trump or does Donald Trump fit to the Bible?
01:33:39.120
And it feels like in a lot of ways, are they making them fit?
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It's eerie, but it feels like it's being manufactured.
01:34:20.440
And then the thing is, who's to say if the prophecy just says what will happen, who's to
01:34:29.000
And that like, that's kind of like a, you know, like a time paradox, right?
01:34:32.480
Like if you go back in time, like what I have been born if I done this and right, I don't
01:34:36.920
Well, that's the thing too, is I always go back to this Marina Ambramovic.
01:34:46.880
And after they're done, they tell her the visions that they had.
01:34:49.680
And they tell her that Donald Trump is the magician that will awaken the world.
01:34:56.080
But what I think is more significant about that is that what does a magician do?
01:35:09.660
So I don't know what we're going to, I do feel like whatever we're getting with Donald
01:35:14.020
Trump, as much as I do like him, as much as I like cheap gas and no wars and all that
01:35:18.980
I just, my intuition is just telling me something is very off with him and it's going to be fun
01:35:26.480
Yeah, it's going to be quite, we're going to, we're due for some turbulent times.
01:35:35.820
But I know we need to wrap up so I can just give a preview next week.
01:35:39.260
Um, we are going to get into the millennium, the, that thousand year reign of Christ and
01:35:48.380
And we're going to talk about what it's going to be like, um, and why most people are going
01:35:54.660
It's going to be a time of perfect peace, perfect prosperity, perfect provision, perfect rule,
01:36:00.360
peace, everything that human beings have claimed they've wanted from the beginning.
01:36:09.560
You know, my, my mom was, I was kind of arguing with her about that.
01:36:12.760
And she was saying that, uh, I guess like if, if we, if we are live, if, if we get raptured
01:36:18.820
or if we live through this time, the rapture happens, we'll be up in heaven.
01:36:22.840
And she'll go, she says, oh, well, we'll live through the millennial reign of Christ.
01:36:26.520
I'm like, I'm not so sure that would we, would you want to, would you want to come back
01:36:36.980
Well, we are supposed to live, well, we will rule and reign with Christ for that thousand
01:36:43.760
It's not going to be, it's going to be good, but the parts that people don't like are going
01:36:53.320
They're going to hate that getting the justice that they claim they want.
01:36:57.000
Now, but for us, if we are taken up into the spiritual realm and then put back down in
01:37:05.100
it, like, I guess this question, the questions are for next week, but like full access to
01:37:09.980
It's not like we're going to be locked into earth.
01:37:12.040
I think it's as spiritual beings, we'll be able to transverse earth and heaven at will.
01:37:20.320
Like as a human being, you have these distinct characteristics of a human being, which come
01:37:27.580
So like, I'm going to, like, if you put me in a body, I'm going to sin eventually.
01:37:32.880
And if Jesus is ruling with a rod of iron, I don't want to take that chance.
01:37:39.560
He's like, yeah, he's going to cut my head off.
01:37:43.720
Once you're resurrected, you, you know, look, you don't have the same, you don't have the
01:37:52.680
You're not going to have those same earthly desires.
01:37:56.040
It's like, it's the earthly desires are like, they're, they're tied to this need you need.
01:38:01.040
I mean, I mean, maybe they're tied to scarcity.
01:38:03.840
They're tied to something that they're tied to being this fleshy retard that demons can
01:38:09.400
whisper in my ears and I'm hungry and I have all these, you know, desires and everything.
01:38:14.140
And it's got a lot to do with this retarded meat suit.
01:38:19.980
That's what the source of sin is wanting more than what God has allotted you or wanting
01:38:24.500
something different than what God has allotted you.
01:38:26.480
But once you are in your supernatural body, you are no longer going to have the desire
01:38:32.200
to do anything outside of God's will because there's right now we think, you know what?
01:38:35.320
I can, yeah, God's will sounds fine, but I'd rather have this stuff over here.
01:38:40.940
Let me ask you one more thing in parting and then we'll, we'll wrap it up.
01:38:47.840
Top has brought up some good points and, and he kind of pulled me over to his way of thinking.
01:38:52.480
And then I kind of bounced back and forth, but like when it comes to this idea where
01:38:56.340
Donald Trump is saying, Christians get out and vote, you know, I go, I believe that the
01:39:01.220
political system at the highest levels is, is theater.
01:39:03.960
And so I think there's a form of consent that you're giving if you engage in the voting,
01:39:11.560
because I don't think that the voting actually works.
01:39:14.520
I think they pre pick who they're going to have, uh, you know, and these things just happen.
01:39:19.280
And, and so what purpose does the voting serve then the voting serves in, you know, hypothetically,
01:39:24.660
if I'm just exploring ideas, it serves as your consenting to this system, you're deciding to
01:39:30.820
engage with it, which means you're, you're casting essentially like your belief into it.
01:39:36.620
It almost feels like a way of, uh, following man instead of, instead of Christ.
01:39:40.860
Do you think that I'm overthinking that or, and, and that there might be some importance
01:39:46.020
to getting out and, and, and voting, or do you think that that's closer to the truth?
01:39:50.920
This idea that, um, everything, you know, in the spiritual realm is about consent.
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It's not just signing your name on a dotted line.
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It's what you engage with, what you, what you take in, what you look at, what you listen
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Are you saying I'm putting my faith in this system or this man instead of Christ, or, or
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Yeah, I don't, I don't think it's as black and white as I are putting my faith in man
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I think you can, you're, you're still putting your faith in Christ, but if you look at the
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book of Romans in Romans chapter 12, it talks about participating in government and we are,
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we are supposed to, um, obey and participate in these, in the, whatever sociopolitical
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And we have, so I believe that we have a responsibility to, you know, to exist and to make this, you
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know, to occupy, as Jesus said, occupy until I come.
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That means we need to participate in, in, in the world.
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Now, does that mean that the, the, the, at the presidential level, I don't think any of
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either of these candidates, I'm not for, I didn't, I, I usually vote for either the
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libertarian, libertarian candidate or the constitution party candidate.
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What I'm saying is I don't participate in two parties because I think that both of them
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are, are, are bad or, or I, I will, there have been time.
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I forget exactly which one I did not vote for president because there was no good option.
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And it may be the same team this time, but what I do there, they're also my local
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Cause I think I have much more local effect than I will glow.
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But I can vote to make sure that my kids are, are in a, in a, the people on my school
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I can vote for the mayor and, you know, treasurer and people like that.
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So I think that we should vote for the people who we believe are going to do the best job.
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And if there's no one, if there are people talk about, you know, voting for the lesser
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Cause when you vote for the lesser of two evils, you're still voting for evil.
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You know, that, that actually does bolster what, what top said to me, which I, I, I thought
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He said that, um, it's like not voting is a form of consent in the other way in, in
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the sense of like, uh, something terrible is going to happen to you.
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Here's this person who, if they're allowed to win, they're going to implement all these
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different things on your life and on your children's lives.
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And that it's, you're, um, you're beholden to object and without an objection, that's
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Well, then this thing is going to happen to you.
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You could say, you don't want this because it's coming.
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And instead of objecting, if you choose to do nothing, well, that's a form of consent.
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That's like saying, okay, whatever you're going to do to me, I'll allow you to do it
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Like, I mean, one of my bigger issues is, uh, just the human sacrifice.
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So one guy says, let's one lady says, let's do a lot more of this.
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And one guy said, let's leave it up to the States.
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And in my opinion, leaving it up to the States is going to decrease it by a good number.
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I'd like them to say that these are sacrifices to Moloch and we should do this under no, no
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Um, I prefer that you didn't at all, but there's really nothing I can do.
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Hey guys, I'm going to actually have to run, but it's not going to do this.
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I appreciate, um, you guys going there and signing up and like, um, Raven said earlier, if
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you find it in your heart to support me, please do.
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I want to say that I, I, I'm not big into begging for money.
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So if I provided something for you, feel free to, to, um, to support.
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However, I will say, I'm giving you some preview of here that I am also working on some,
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some, uh, tools that where I can provide other services, especially in the, in the
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financial realm, I've been in there in that world before, and, um, I'm working with a
01:44:19.540
company now that I may start to broker some really outstanding, um, uh, financial tools
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that will help you with, with your retirement that I'm using myself or set, set your, your
01:44:31.080
kids and yourself up for some really good retirement income with, with extraordinary
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I will, I'll give you more information as, as it becomes available.
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Cause I'm getting, there's a couple of licenses I'm getting to do that.
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That won't cost you anything, but it will actually help you.
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So that'll be another way to support me, but also, um, YouTube channel.
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That's also where my, my short videos are as well.
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Uh, tick tock, um, uh, Twitter, I'm putting short videos there as well.
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I just want to show you we're number two in the conspiracies live category.
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It lifted my spirits and thank you for coming on again, Ed.
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We'll be back next week with, uh, some more stuff.
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Pick up your Bohemian Grove tickets and, uh, we'll see you later guys.
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Oh, I didn't have the, I didn't have my, uh, outro music pulled up, but here we go.
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It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
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