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00:02:12.740 Which shirt are you wearing?

00:02:13.600 Oh, MKUltra Chickens. 0.85

00:02:15.080 Free range MKUltra Chickens.

00:02:16.080 Let's just do this.

00:02:16.780 Yeah.

00:02:17.020 Free range MKUltra Chickens.

00:02:18.720 This pertains to today.

00:02:20.120 This, I actually chose it for today's guest.

00:02:21.980 Oh, you did that on purpose?

00:02:23.300 Yeah.

00:02:23.720 That's an...

00:02:24.220 I know.

00:02:25.160 Like, I'm like, I have an idea what we're going to talk about today.

00:02:27.960 It's this.

00:02:28.680 You're not wearing any merch.

00:02:29.880 It's fine.

00:02:30.160 I really like the way it matches you.

00:02:31.460 I'm going to risk giving you a compliment.

00:02:34.100 Look at that.

00:02:34.760 Perfect.

00:02:35.360 It's crazy because, no, no, it's almost unfair.

00:02:37.540 I designed the shirt.

00:02:38.980 With those sneakers in mind?

00:02:41.300 Today's guest.

00:02:41.740 That's despicable, dude.

00:02:42.620 Let's care.

00:02:43.460 Gray Area Monarch is with us today.

00:02:45.440 It's going to be a great episode.

00:02:46.560 What's up, Gray?

00:02:47.120 How you doing, man?

00:02:47.820 What's the problem?

00:02:48.620 How y'all doing?

00:02:49.260 Thank you for having me.

00:02:50.800 I'm sorry that we just talked about his...

00:02:52.840 That's a...

00:02:54.160 I can't...

00:02:54.620 I almost can't let that go that you did that.

00:02:56.240 Got a little matching going on.

00:02:57.080 Got a little matching going on.

00:02:58.380 I'm peeing the colors.

00:02:58.520 Don't feed into him, please, Gray.

00:03:00.160 Gray, before we get into this conversation...

00:03:01.720 It's nice, right?

00:03:02.340 No, it's not nice.

00:03:03.600 It's actually terrible.

00:03:05.300 It's diabolical that you would do such a thing.

00:03:07.640 He's designing the t-shirts after the sneakers that he owns.

00:03:11.200 This man is dressed like wallpaper right now.

00:03:14.900 That's rude.

00:03:15.660 That's very rude.

00:03:16.640 Gray, can you tell us a little bit about that?

00:03:17.800 Tell us a little bit about yourself, man.

00:03:20.340 Welcome to the show.

00:03:21.260 Yeah, where can people find you?

00:03:22.420 What do you do?

00:03:23.640 What's up?

00:03:24.260 Yeah, I mean, you can find me at Gray Area Monarch on X.

00:03:27.620 And I co-founded Organized Safety, which essentially right now is just an intake form,

00:03:33.980 organized safety.org.

00:03:35.820 And what that is, is that is an end-to-end encrypted anonymous platform to where survivors of MKUltra and related projects, insiders, whistleblowers, defectors, specialists, anybody with information can make anonymous reports, person of interest, locations of interest, other reports of interest, or just click help organize safety if you want to help out the cause.

00:03:59.420 But essentially, what we've created is an anonymous intake platform.

00:04:04.880 And you can opt in for notification if information you submit is cooperated.

00:04:10.220 So, you know, a lot of people behind the scenes, you have all these issues like, you know, whether it be Epstein, whether it be Nygaard, whether it be Nassar, right, with, you know, the Olympic gymnast, whether it be Sandusky with the wrestlers, whether it be the Catholic Church, whether it be the Boy Scouts with 80,000 victims, whether it be all of this bullshit that's been going on getting covered up under the rug because individually people got singled out and quashed, right?

00:04:34.020 And just covered up, what we got is to where behind the scenes, anonymously, people can collaborate and unite and build up cases, whether it be blind, whether it be a preponderance of evidence for civil cases, whether it be burden of proof for criminal cases, and kind of get that evidence built up with other people before deciding to come forward.

00:04:54.520 And that way, you can do it in a more effective way.

00:04:57.080 And then in addition, you're just kind of helping people that are really fighting for the cause, put together and map the network and, you know, kind of apply pressure in different ways on the back end.

00:05:06.620 So we've been running that privately for over a decade.

00:05:09.940 I'm teamed with people that have been doing it for over three decades.

00:05:13.320 And we're just, you know, really making the push for actionable solutions and doing something with the information that we all have and kind of unifying as safely and as effectively as possible.

00:05:23.340 So that I love that, you know, because, well, I got a couple of questions.

00:05:29.140 Like, I guess the first one is what gets you into it, but also want to give you kudos, you and your wife, Emma, as Emma, Emma, Catherine, Emma, Catherine.

00:05:38.040 Yeah.

00:05:38.800 She does a lot of work with SRA victims and victims of this kind of abuse, which is just like, I listen in to a lot of the spaces and I'm like, it's rough, dude.

00:05:51.040 It's heavy.

00:05:52.060 It's heavy.

00:05:52.580 Yeah.

00:05:52.860 And I've heard you a couple of times, I think most recently on Temple Hat.

00:05:57.780 So I'm a little familiar with your story.

00:05:58.980 I'm interested to get into it.

00:06:02.020 How do you get into this?

00:06:03.300 What makes you open up a website like this a decade ago?

00:06:05.580 Because this is a dangerous thing to do.

00:06:09.000 Yeah.

00:06:09.980 Sure.

00:06:11.120 Yeah.

00:06:11.580 So, I mean, you know, just bird's eye view.

00:06:15.260 So, you know, like many people, I had a fucked up childhood.

00:06:18.020 You know, one, I was a Jehovah's Witness.

00:06:19.600 I was raised Jehovah's Witness, which is, you know, right, weird, right, to say the least. 0.99

00:06:22.480 Yeah, my wife's an ex-Jehovah's Witness. 0.62

00:06:24.140 Yeah.

00:06:24.460 So, yeah, you get it.

00:06:25.420 You know, pretty controlled situation like a lot of these.

00:06:27.280 And then other than that, unfortunately, you know, I just had a horrible childhood where

00:06:32.660 I was subject to a lot of abuse.

00:06:34.240 You know, as a male, what did I do?

00:06:35.920 Naturally, turn that to anger, right?

00:06:37.480 Turn that to drive, you know, and, you know, try to become successful and, you know, even

00:06:41.820 got into elements of the criminal underworld.

00:06:43.520 Long story short, all I really wanted to do was fuck bad people up.

00:06:47.820 Like, you know, like, and it got to the point to where, like, I was kind of wanting to do

00:06:51.960 that as legitimately as possible.

00:06:54.260 I had a lot of family, friends, and people that kind of came into my life, especially around

00:06:58.160 my teen years.

00:06:59.860 And, you know, had kind of helped me out in different ways.

00:07:03.040 Long story short, I tried to join the clandestine services.

00:07:05.720 When this all came to fruition in my early 20s, long story short, as soon as I got sworn in

00:07:12.020 off books and was a knock, right, non-official cover embedded in the criminal underworld,

00:07:18.440 a lot of personal favors started coming into the equation.

00:07:21.700 It was incredibly dirty, more than I could ever imagine.

00:07:26.060 And simultaneously, and, you know, my status in the legal underworld off books was being

00:07:31.060 leveraged against me to do these personal favors.

00:07:32.940 Um, simultaneously, I found out, hey, my childhood wasn't just random, horrible abuse.

00:07:38.000 Um, I actually had been through a behavioral modification program.

00:07:42.340 I had been brainwashed.

00:07:43.820 And, you know, this all just, uh, came just to a horrible, uh, you know, uh, violent collision

00:07:50.600 of, you know, my own personalities in my head.

00:07:54.500 You know, I found out I had split personalities, um, again, had been through this and, um, you

00:07:58.920 know, things went real bad.

00:07:59.960 So, anyways, long story short, I was legitimately imprisoned.

00:08:03.240 I was falsely imprisoned as well due to clerical errors.

00:08:06.340 Um, when I tried to whistleblow on this, finally, when I got released, got my record fixed.

00:08:10.520 Um, I gathered with other people that had, uh, you know, also kind of helped me out of the

00:08:14.820 program and helped me find out that I was in the program in the first place.

00:08:17.860 Um, and I kind of piggybacked and expounded on the work of Valerie Wolfe at the 1995 ACHRE.

00:08:26.460 That's the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experimentation.

00:08:29.820 At a presidential hearing in 1995, uh, Valerie Wolfe was a therapist who presented evidence,

00:08:35.960 um, from 40 nationwide therapists and hundreds of their clients that was blindly cooperating,

00:08:41.520 meaning their information matched without them knowing each other.

00:08:44.340 And there was non-public details that were brought forward, um, and, uh, you know, it's

00:08:48.640 about child mind control, about behavioral modification, about MKUltra and MKUltra research-derived

00:08:55.500 programs that were operational and ongoing.

00:08:58.860 Um, so essentially we said, okay, this is what we need to do.

00:09:01.800 We need to build up this, um, cooperative evidence, this cooperative testimony, blindly

00:09:07.600 cooperative from people that don't know each other.

00:09:09.580 And how can we do this?

00:09:10.980 So I started, uh, networking with nationwide trauma therapists.

00:09:14.340 This is where a lot of these people surface, um, you know, and then, uh, just other insiders,

00:09:19.480 other specialists, other survivors.

00:09:20.680 I had already been plugged into the network.

00:09:22.520 So knew a lot of people that were still in the system, but disillusioned with it.

00:09:25.920 And we're happy to, you know, do anything they could, right.

00:09:28.320 To take a shot back at it.

00:09:29.720 Um, so anyways, over time it evolved to where we first were like, you know, getting specific

00:09:34.820 survivor information and stuff like that.

00:09:36.400 Obviously for safety reasons that didn't, uh, you know, that wasn't the best way to go.

00:09:40.280 So over time it evolved to, Hey, you know, we're going to get information of the locations,

00:09:45.120 the perpetrators, you know, um, of certain program aspects that are non-public and it

00:09:50.280 evolved into this intake form to where people can submit anonymously, but then they can create

00:09:55.440 like a new email address and opt in to be notified.

00:09:57.900 So if someone named someone, someone, a perpetrator, someone named a specific location, a specific

00:10:03.000 program, uh, uh, aspects, especially things that are, aren't public.

00:10:06.500 Right.

00:10:06.940 Cause if you name the Clintons, right.

00:10:09.100 That's one thing, right.

00:10:10.160 Every, you know, it's okay.

00:10:11.520 You're piggybacking stuff, but if you name someone that isn't public, that hasn't been

00:10:15.840 accused publicly and then 10 other people name it, well, that's starting to have some strong

00:10:20.140 validity, you know?

00:10:21.380 Um, so then obviously that happens.

00:10:23.460 We have people, um, then an organized safety liaison will vet everybody and then connect people,

00:10:29.260 you know, in the background, get together and decide, Hey, do we want to pursue this?

00:10:33.280 Do you know, what are the criminal statutes that may have been broken?

00:10:36.480 Uh, is there a civil case, which is less, you know, which is a lower level of evidence that's

00:10:41.300 needed, you know, to be successful, um, and just, you know, mapping out the network and

00:10:45.400 seeing what we can do.

00:10:46.500 Um, you know, a lot of, uh, brief and bureaucrats on the backend and trying to find pockets of

00:10:51.180 people that are, aren't shit and, you know, that will actually stand up and do the right

00:10:55.620 thing, um, which is, you know, few and far between in the world of bureaucrats and politicians

00:10:59.680 and even at the top level of specific areas of law enforcement, because a lot of these

00:11:04.520 areas are compromised, uh, with red tape by design, by the policy, um, or actually by

00:11:09.640 personnel and strategic positions.

00:11:11.240 Um, but yeah, so anyways, uh, my direct involvement, that's what led me to it.

00:11:14.860 Um, not giving a fuck about any of the consequences, anything, deciding to do it as safe and as

00:11:18.980 effective as possible to cover my ass. 0.84

00:11:20.740 Um, but, uh, also willing to take any risks, you know, you would have to kill me to shut

00:11:25.320 me up, you have to kill me to stop me, you know, I don't care, uh, this stuff has gone

00:11:30.040 on long enough, uh, it's, if people look into where these survivors surface, the hard information

00:11:36.080 of the therapeutic community, which are actively targeted as well, if they speak out, you know,

00:11:40.940 whether it be their licenses or other even dirtier aspects to shut them up, um, you know,

00:11:45.480 there's, it's clear that there needs to be some sort of actionable situation, like someone

00:11:49.640 needs to be doing something.

00:11:50.660 So I started, you know, I'm very, a solution oriented, right?

00:11:53.580 So, uh, you know, I just put it together along again with other people that have been doing

00:11:57.660 this for three decades.

00:11:58.700 So now, you know, it's gone on for a little bit over a decade.

00:12:01.280 And in 2022, we started bringing it public, uh, to where there's a form, a website people

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00:13:09.900 What, what program were you a part of when you were a child that you ended up finding out

00:13:14.740 later on in life?

00:13:15.980 Um, and did you ever find out how you came to be inserted into that program?

00:13:20.500 Yeah.

00:13:20.840 So here's the deal is there's a lot of programs and I'm not going to be naming things that

00:13:25.100 aren't public, uh, because that, uh, kills the validity in tanks kind of like, uh, you

00:13:30.040 know, uh, kind of like a way we vet people if they name it behind the scenes.

00:13:33.600 Right.

00:13:34.000 But, uh, the one that is public is Monarch again, that's been watered down like greatly.

00:13:38.380 And we can kind of get into what Monarch is because there's Monarch mind control, which

00:13:42.400 really builds off like artichoke and has like different exact mind control mechanisms in

00:13:46.340 there, but Monarch itself is actually a breeding and placement program.

00:13:50.500 Um, but, uh, so I was a part of my breeding.

00:13:54.260 So, I mean, you know, people are line bred, like just like working dogs are bred, right?

00:13:59.460 Just like, you know, horses are bred, you know, just like different things there.

00:14:03.200 People are being bred selectively.

00:14:05.620 Um, a large part of that is disassociation is hereditary, but there's also like traits,

00:14:09.780 there's aptitudes, there are things that are passed down, you know, just like if your last

00:14:13.360 name's Baker somewhere back there in the generation, right?

00:14:16.040 Maybe your people were bakers, maybe your people were blacksmiths, you get it. 0.94

00:14:19.620 So, uh, yeah, no, there's a breeding program to where people are generationally bred and

00:14:25.480 there'll be subtle, you know, interferences and, you know, intercessions where, you know,

00:14:31.140 things happen, right?

00:14:32.440 Um, there's breeding programs that exist.

00:14:34.360 I mean, it's just a thing and placement, obviously, you know, just like Monarchs rule territories,

00:14:39.080 there's placements, whether people be, uh, placed in legislative, executive, and judicial

00:14:44.740 to unite the powers that are meant to be separate within a corrupt group, right?

00:14:48.820 So they can get their way.

00:14:49.720 Um, or whether people are placed in, you know, as a newscaster, as an anchor, right?

00:14:54.500 If people are placed, uh, for a major podcast, or if people are placed, you know, into the

00:15:01.600 sports world, whatever it is.

00:15:02.820 So it's breeding, but these things, they're done in a way, right?

00:15:06.360 Where like, when you imagine a breeding program, you almost imagine people locked in a facility,

00:15:09.960 you know, going through, this is much more like to, you know, to kind of pay homage

00:15:13.960 to the shirt, like a free range situation where these people have to be able to live

00:15:17.180 a life that at least affords them the illusion that this isn't the case.

00:15:23.060 That they're controlling it.

00:15:23.980 Yeah.

00:15:24.200 Because I think if you, uh, you know, people do escape from it and they do say like, I

00:15:27.700 was part of a family that, you know, engages in this sort of thing.

00:15:30.640 Nathan Reynolds.

00:15:31.480 Right.

00:15:31.780 But the best operation is one where like, you know, a child can reach adulthood and have

00:15:36.680 very little inclination that that was the case, or at least if they do have an inclination,

00:15:41.280 certainly not to the scale that it actually happened to them.

00:15:44.400 So it's like a free range situation.

00:15:46.660 Right.

00:15:46.980 I mean, these, these aren't, um, you know, by large and far, by large and far, yes, it's

00:15:52.580 a free range situation.

00:15:53.640 If you want to equate to that there is, you know, deep underground military bases.

00:15:57.460 There's like specific lockdown programs and labs with controls and isolated situations

00:16:01.960 and all that, that, you know, wouldn't be Monarch as much Monarch.

00:16:04.680 Yes.

00:16:04.820 It's a, it's much more free range situation.

00:16:06.460 Really.

00:16:06.680 What is this?

00:16:07.200 It just all it's, you know, to where the, you know, the sum of the pieces is more than

00:16:11.720 more than just what they add up to be individually.

00:16:14.500 Yes.

00:16:14.960 Um, it is, uh, it's a self-replicating machine.

00:16:18.180 It's a self-replicating, self-enforcing autonomous machine.

00:16:21.240 Um, that's meant to span generations, right?

00:16:23.560 Uh, anybody's expendable.

00:16:24.840 People have hierarchies programmed within them and the most suitable goes in to fill

00:16:28.740 a spot when someone is removed from it.

00:16:30.700 Um, yes, it's a free range situation.

00:16:32.460 There's very subtle, um, interference.

00:16:35.640 Um, you know, there's, you know, a lot of matchmaking.

00:16:38.460 I mean, if you even look in some parts of the world, it's, uh, typical for like cultures

00:16:42.620 to join families into kind of arranged marriages and things like this.

00:16:46.640 Well, if you get into high up families, uh, you know, even in the U S still, that's not

00:16:52.380 so far fetched to where like people are kind of routed together.

00:16:55.800 Um, but you have a lot, you know, uh, especially in recent years, it's went, um, from a little

00:17:01.200 bit more forced situations and routed situations to where now even, you know, at the cutting

00:17:06.400 edge people that have been in these programs, um, you know, they are subconsciously routed,

00:17:12.100 um, to fertility clinics.

00:17:13.800 Right.

00:17:14.140 And then you have a fertility, uh, you have fertility fraud. 0.99

00:17:17.100 Um, a lot of it's going on, which, uh, feeds into this breeding program, but yeah, most people,

00:17:22.020 99% of people in Monarch are not aware.

00:17:24.620 Um, there is, uh, the 1% that actually do become aware and they go through a process called

00:17:30.500 going conscious, which is, uh, essentially completing the cycle and then stepping into this.

00:17:36.080 Um, and that tends to be the most psychopathic, most successful, um, people at the tip of the

00:17:40.600 pyramid, they do consciously step into this and then know what they're involved with.

00:17:43.880 Like Charles Manson.

00:17:45.260 But, but the majority of, no, Charles Manson would not, even if he.

00:17:48.520 We're talking about like world leaders, maybe right.

00:17:51.820 We're talking about world leaders.

00:17:52.760 We're talking about industry mongrels, stuff like this.

00:17:55.280 Yeah.

00:17:55.480 Like, like essentially like people get forced to do like a certain ritual as a kid.

00:17:59.560 Right.

00:18:00.100 Like, uh, just like take this, for example, you have like Amish people that go through

00:18:03.920 rumspringa.

00:18:04.820 You know, you know what that is to where.

00:18:06.180 I'm actually not familiar with rumspringa.

00:18:07.540 So, uh, Amish people, when they come of age, they'll have a chance to go into society and 0.99

00:18:12.340 experience that.

00:18:13.620 And then they can choose to come back and live it or, or that, uh, Catholics get confirmed. 0.86

00:18:17.660 Right.

00:18:18.000 You have like different cultures to where children are kind of forced into it.

00:18:21.740 Then as an adult, when they come of age, there's like a rite of passage where they can

00:18:24.760 decide to do it.

00:18:25.680 So in Monarch, there's actually a step too, to where like people that have went through

00:18:29.820 it, if they've been chosen, if they've been vetted and they fit, you know, they tick all

00:18:32.960 the psychopathic boxes and, you know, they think they can actually bring them into the

00:18:36.540 fold, right.

00:18:37.260 Into the club and actually like consciously, because if you get involved at a certain level,

00:18:41.220 there's no way to hide it and to not realize what you're a part of.

00:18:44.040 Like, right.

00:18:44.440 If you go into this full time and you're 24 seven, like making dirty moves, like you 1.00

00:18:48.420 have to be read in, you have to be aware and you have to decide to do this because there

00:18:52.040 is justification.

00:18:52.700 And there is like, you know, a way to look at things to where like, this makes sense.

00:18:57.360 Right.

00:18:57.920 Even the evil people, like, don't look at themselves like the worst pieces of shit, even if on

00:19:02.340 aspects they do like, right.

00:19:03.580 They, they justify what they do.

00:19:05.540 Um, so like there, there's actually a process in going conscious, essentially one of the

00:19:09.440 most major rituals that people go through as a child to where they're forced to do it.

00:19:12.860 And maybe a hand is on their hand, you know, uh, helping them along to do something.

00:19:16.900 Um, they revisit that ritual and then they are, you know, uh, the orchestrator of it and

00:19:24.080 then they take charge and lead it.

00:19:25.800 And then when they do that, essentially it connects neuron pathways, just like, you know,

00:19:29.240 smell or remind something or this and that going conscious is essentially a specific ritual

00:19:33.360 that they revisit and take charge in and orchestrate it and control it.

00:19:37.200 And then they kind of step into the fold and go through this.

00:19:40.320 And yes.

00:19:40.980 And then at that point they kind of like a merging of, you know, the backend and the forend.

00:19:45.180 So yes, there are people that do become aware of this.

00:19:47.480 And I know we got into this from the breeding program, but yeah, so 99% of people are unaware

00:19:52.400 what they're a part of.

00:19:53.440 They're largely subconsciously manipulated, even if, uh, some of that, like, even if it's

00:19:58.960 kind of like from a split personality that takes orders, but kind of lives in the subconscious

00:20:02.660 when it's not pulled up in a, in a certain circumstance.

00:20:05.480 Right.

00:20:06.360 Um, uh, so most people are unaware, but there is a minority, um, that are actually, you know,

00:20:11.680 the head orchestrators of this that do become fully conscious and know what they're involved

00:20:16.280 in.

00:20:16.520 But yeah, so the, the breeding is, uh, is covertly, um, orchestrated for by large and far.

00:20:22.900 Would you say people like, uh, Sabrina Carpenter are conscious of this?

00:20:27.860 I mean, this is just one person that's come across our table that seems like, uh, she's

00:20:32.360 been accused of being bred into this to, to fulfill this role.

00:20:35.480 And then the moves that they make going forward from now till who knows how far this person

00:20:40.580 will go.

00:20:41.580 They're conscious of what they're doing and they understand their role in it.

00:20:45.220 Um, and another person that sort of comes to mind in this possible program is maybe

00:20:48.960 even like Erica Kirk.

00:20:50.260 Somebody mentioned her in the chat.

00:20:51.600 Yeah.

00:20:52.060 Just another person that I'm looking at that comes from this odd family background is now

00:20:56.660 on TV.

00:20:57.460 She's on, um, uh, like Love Island.

00:20:59.900 No, it's not Love Island.

00:21:00.840 I've been saying Love Island.

00:21:01.700 It's another one.

00:21:02.320 I forget what the summer house, um, you know, which is a lot of people.

00:21:05.460 It's like a big Netflix show.

00:21:06.800 And, and yeah, a lot of it is really strange.

00:21:09.200 If you look into her, she's, she's part of, uh, that music video really did it for me

00:21:12.800 with all the symbolism.

00:21:13.780 I'm just kind of like, that's just, which one is that?

00:21:15.540 The Sabrina Carpenter one?

00:21:16.960 No, Erica Kirk was in a music video that, uh, she like she's by where the Vegas shooting 0.99

00:21:22.220 was at.

00:21:22.600 Oh yeah.

00:21:23.060 So she's in the music video.

00:21:24.080 She's in Summer House.

00:21:26.380 Yeah.

00:21:26.660 On Fremont street, there's, she ziplines past like a huge nine, 10. 1.00

00:21:31.080 That must've been the time when she does it, but that's also the day that her husband,

00:21:33.920 and I'm just like, she's also in Donald Trump's like modeling agency.

00:21:37.700 Very weird.

00:21:38.440 But a lot of weird, definitely somebody that is like, like you're saying great.

00:21:42.100 Her, her, Erica Kirk's family ties.

00:21:45.380 Uh, you know, you, you have some serious boxes ticked.

00:21:48.220 Okay.

00:21:48.480 When you're getting into Raytheon, you're getting into all that.

00:21:50.960 And here, here's the thing is like a lot of this conditioning, you know, obviously you

00:21:54.560 have age old occult stuff.

00:21:55.580 Like that's been going on and you have family dynasties in the same bloodlines, which, you

00:21:59.840 know, kind of like makes some people turned off.

00:22:01.880 They have a hangup about that, but it's like, Hey, you know, family dynasties have been running

00:22:04.820 things for a long time.

00:22:05.620 Right.

00:22:06.060 Um, so you have like age old occult methods that are brought into this, but really, um,

00:22:09.020 the MK ultra aspect really got industrialized post-World War II.

00:22:12.520 Right.

00:22:12.920 Um, and a lot of these techniques were brought forth into the military intelligence industrial

00:22:17.980 complex.

00:22:18.940 Um, it's specifically safeguarding certain programs like, uh, like our nuclear programs, Manhattan

00:22:24.500 project, so on and so forth, because they can't just trust people not to talk.

00:22:28.760 Right.

00:22:29.060 So like there's certain conditioning, you have different levels.

00:22:31.340 You have a behavioral modification that's just encourages silence and compliance, and then

00:22:35.500 has some fail safes to where people self-regulate.

00:22:38.120 If they disclose unauthorized information, they'll have some post-hypnotic suggestions that basically

00:22:42.340 make them go crazy and just, and confuse their disclosure and discredit themselves.

00:22:45.920 Uh, and then if that doesn't work, you know, kind of suicide themselves, something like

00:22:49.000 this.

00:22:49.380 Um, but then you have your full blown Manchurian candidate programming.

00:22:52.720 So Erica Kirk, just coming from a family that was high up in this, uh, it's not just

00:22:56.740 personnel in these black projects and, you know, this, this, you know, national security,

00:23:01.140 you know, intertwined, um, you know, non-governmental organizations.

00:23:05.640 Um, it's also their families.

00:23:07.140 Okay.

00:23:07.460 This is no joke.

00:23:08.520 Like this is just the way it is in these people, you know, are brought through similar

00:23:12.340 institutions and they're, you know, brought up through the same pipelines.

00:23:15.760 Uh, so yeah, I'd be looking at her for this as far as, okay.

00:23:18.500 So is she one that would go conscious Sabrina Carpenter, much less likely to be going conscious.

00:23:23.280 Um, what for, and how much is she really controlling? 0.99

00:23:25.800 She's used by far and large as a puppet. 1.00

00:23:28.000 Uh, no offense.

00:23:28.780 Yeah.

00:23:29.060 She says she claims that she doesn't know like the nature of like, she's doing a music

00:23:32.920 video.

00:23:33.200 It's got like this, uh, homage to a, basically a movie about a pedophilic relationship between

00:23:38.520 a, uh, you know, a dude and a young girl leader.

00:23:40.780 Uh, yeah, Lolita.

00:23:41.780 And she's like, Oh, I didn't even know that.

00:23:43.400 So it's like, just to, to add to what you're saying, it's like, she just seems like she's

00:23:47.060 caught up maybe in the fame.

00:23:48.080 And I guess the question is like, how much of, I didn't know.

00:23:50.820 And then it's like, Oh, so just coincidence upon coincidence is like, at some point you

00:23:54.700 are getting into the industry.

00:23:57.140 I mean, you have some people that literally just listen to their manager, listen to the

00:24:02.300 directors, listen to producers, have some people that they pair with and work with and

00:24:05.100 trust them as a creative designer.

00:24:06.320 Then you have some people that really want to take charge and get intertwined.

00:24:09.060 And then they go on to become a producer, a director themselves.

00:24:12.980 Right.

00:24:13.620 So you'll notice some people that are actors, some people, yes, exactly.

00:24:16.680 They go on to take full creative ownership and that's always verified with them.

00:24:20.340 They go to, they're much more likely to actually go conscious and consciously be a part of this.

00:24:24.140 You other, other people, you know, they're just tunnel vision.

00:24:27.180 They just focus on their specific role in this and let other people manage it down to

00:24:31.220 the creativity.

00:24:31.840 Right.

00:24:32.560 So like, what exactly is she doing? 0.95

00:24:34.520 I don't know.

00:24:35.100 Cause I'm not very familiar with her, but what loosely I am.

00:24:37.920 I don't think she's one of those.

00:24:39.380 That's like a OCD managing every detail to herself and a very insistive of that. 1.00

00:24:43.920 And I don't think she's going in the pipeline to where she wants to be a producer, a director,

00:24:47.880 I'm a writer and kind of control this.

00:24:50.440 Right.

00:24:50.720 But you have some people that do go on to do that.

00:24:53.040 Um, now Erica Kirk, she's being groomed and stepping into the role to have a lot of sway 0.97

00:24:57.380 and a lot of position that, or is she just really a puppet and listening to everybody 1.00

00:25:00.740 around her and completely managed?

00:25:02.200 Uh, I don't know.

00:25:03.360 And I haven't really went into this enough to look at it.

00:25:06.240 Um, but it just at a glance from what little, I do know, Erica Kirk would be much more of

00:25:11.080 a likely candidate for going conscious, um, and stepping into a role, um, then I think

00:25:17.400 Sabrina Carpenter would. 0.99

00:25:18.620 And that's just completely, you know, me just talking.

00:25:21.660 I would agree with that.

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00:26:23.280 You know, sort of the patterns that emerge when you have this data chunking website like

00:26:30.340 you do, and there's all this testimony coming through, and certainly you have consistent

00:26:34.260 patterns emerging.

00:26:35.120 I'd imagine that's part of your vetting process too, if this starts to adhere to what a bunch

00:26:38.960 of other people are saying.

00:26:39.660 But before we get there, there is, I understand the psychological component of maybe, let's

00:26:45.700 say, inducing trauma to cause a disassociative state, and when that happens, a second programmable

00:26:51.200 personality emerges.

00:26:52.400 I think that the Project Monarch symbol of the butterfly is meant to represent the hemispheres

00:26:57.300 of the brain, right?

00:26:58.220 The wings of the butterfly.

00:26:59.320 And there's something about, like, hemi-syncing, and really, like, there's this scientific slash

00:27:06.140 psychological manipulation of the human condition that allows for, like, a plethora of things,

00:27:11.160 whether it's a Manchurian candidate or, you know, you name it, that all makes sense.

00:27:16.600 But then there is this other component that people in the research field, if they want

00:27:22.880 to maintain credibility, don't touch that much, and that component is the spiritual component.

00:27:27.800 And when you get to that, it looks a lot like demonic possession.

00:27:32.300 It looks a lot like channeling entities.

00:27:34.620 Are you talking about binaural beats?

00:27:36.480 All sorts of things like that.

00:27:37.940 And it's like, you know, I have a lot of respect for these people that are delving into this

00:27:42.040 field, especially trying to bring attention to the people, the victims of these programs.

00:27:47.420 But, and it's, you know, it's even called satanic ritual abuse, but the most credible researchers

00:27:53.440 out there have it, the deck stacked against them.

00:27:57.600 Because as soon as you start talking about demonic possession, entities, channeling, any of

00:28:03.240 these things, you're going to start to lose credibility.

00:28:06.260 But it's a huge component.

00:28:07.440 I'm sure if you brought that, like, if you led with that, with some of the people that

00:28:10.740 are giving you this evidence into your website, they'd probably be like, this guy's crazy.

00:28:15.300 Because it's like, if you see that at the bottom, I think you have to ease people into

00:28:19.520 that.

00:28:20.120 Yeah, I mean, I imagine the victims have experienced it.

00:28:24.680 And probably a lot of them are like, it's one thing to say, hey, I was part of this shady

00:28:28.460 program that the government is funding.

00:28:31.220 And it's operating in this way, right, you know, in front of us, but we're not willing to

00:28:36.000 look at it. It's another thing to say, and by the way, the things that I've experienced

00:28:39.960 are in many cases, inherently demonic.

00:28:42.720 So can you talk a little bit about that spiritual component?

00:28:46.020 How does that apply?

00:28:46.980 Is that something that really does poke its head up as often as maybe a couple of crazy

00:28:50.620 dudes think it does?

00:28:52.420 Yeah.

00:28:52.620 So, I mean, here's the thing is, because I mean, obviously, and I hate using cliche

00:28:55.640 terms like rabbit hole, but this is a whole rabbit hole.

00:28:57.340 This is a whole topic of itself.

00:28:58.600 And there's many different ways to understand it.

00:29:00.440 I mean, just like, you know, you take religion, you have a wide variety of beliefs.

00:29:03.460 And like, no one really, there are some people that stigmatize people, but like, there's

00:29:06.980 some really out there religious beliefs.

00:29:08.420 And if you get to the core of these different religious ideologies, I mean, it kind of gets

00:29:11.960 out there in each one in its own way, really.

00:29:14.060 So what do people believe?

00:29:15.620 Here's just one for, you know, one aspect way to look at it is a lot of people grow up

00:29:20.420 believing in Santa Claus, right?

00:29:22.300 Okay.

00:29:22.940 Well, people that are brought up in this different, more tribal culture that are, you know, taught

00:29:27.600 different things in this, they may have grown up going through certain initiations and

00:29:32.160 going through certain rituals and rites of passage and so on and so forth, to where they

00:29:36.820 did invocations in a ritualistic ceremony.

00:29:40.600 And they believe that they became inhabited with certain, you know, entities with certain

00:29:47.580 parasitic entities with certain energetic viruses that they infested themselves, they infected

00:29:52.820 themselves with certain parasitic entities that they infested themselves with, and so on

00:29:57.280 and so forth.

00:29:57.740 So now, is there reality to that?

00:30:00.140 It doesn't matter if there's reality to it or not, because if you get a little kid and

00:30:03.100 you hypnotize him and you grow up believing that he's filled with satanic power, that little

00:30:07.600 kid is going to be hell to deal with regardless.

00:30:10.340 There's a placebo effect if it's not a real effect.

00:30:12.700 So really, what does it matter in the long term?

00:30:15.300 Now, okay, so is this stuff real?

00:30:17.360 Is it out there?

00:30:18.160 I mean, you know, we see this much of the spectrum, right, of, you know, this much of

00:30:23.180 the spectrum, right?

00:30:23.980 You don't see the data flowing to your phone.

00:30:26.560 You don't see a lot.

00:30:27.560 You don't even see what's microscopic, such as parasites and stuff like this.

00:30:30.800 So are there other forces out there and all that?

00:30:33.360 I mean, I think that most people that partake in any mainstream religion would say yes, that

00:30:40.260 there are on different levels.

00:30:41.800 Now, the nomenclature, the way that you describe this, the way that you articulate that will be

00:30:46.200 a lot of turnoffs for people, but a lot of people describe the same thing in many different

00:30:49.840 ways.

00:30:50.320 Is there a spiritual component to this?

00:30:52.000 Yes.

00:30:52.460 Is it real?

00:30:53.480 It's real as much that it affects people, whether it's actual external spiritual entities and,

00:31:00.080 you know, consciousness that's affecting people, or it's just internal placebo and just dark

00:31:06.340 neuroscience mechanisms and behavioral neuroscience applied.

00:31:09.360 To me, it doesn't matter because there is an effect of it.

00:31:12.920 So, you know, you can go on all day and go down that rabbit hole and have a deep

00:31:16.120 understanding in this intertwined and religious ideology.

00:31:20.580 But again, to me, it doesn't matter because the point is that it has an effect.

00:31:24.280 And if you take a little kid and raise him a certain way, he's going to adhere to that

00:31:28.940 in some way, shape or form.

00:31:31.080 I do want to talk about this a little bit more before we jump off, because I agree it

00:31:35.060 is such a, you know, yeah, rabbit hole is a fair terminology and it leads to so many

00:31:40.340 different doorways.

00:31:41.360 We've been talking about it in the past few episodes a lot.

00:31:43.980 Nathaniel Gillis has a really good interpretation of these things, I think.

00:31:47.520 And it's this idea that he calls it the phenomenon, and it is willing to take form that is relevant

00:31:52.860 to what you're most likely going to believe.

00:31:55.620 And throughout this research of the MKUltra programs, Project Monarch, the Gates program,

00:32:00.760 anything like this, you get a plethora of different things.

00:32:02.920 You get certainly demonic encounters, right?

00:32:06.360 But you also get very, what would you call it, culture-specific ones, to your point, like

00:32:12.420 the Egyptian Inead, even though that's a little bit strange because that's a long-since-gone

00:32:17.420 culture.

00:32:18.720 But somehow this phenomenon has decided that maybe an individual will be more receptive

00:32:24.340 to this.

00:32:24.880 So being the nine gods that ruled over Egypt, that's one that keeps getting channeled or keeps 0.75

00:32:28.680 getting bumped into.

00:32:29.360 Certainly now with the popularization of UFOs, alien greys, that phenomenon popularized not

00:32:37.860 only through strange happenings and UFO abductee testimony, but also through Hollywood.

00:32:43.860 So it's really fleshed it out in people's minds what this sort of thing looks like.

00:32:46.780 So a lot of these people are also claiming this.

00:32:49.300 I wonder, before we depart from this, could you say in your data chunking, which of these

00:32:58.220 things is coming up most often?

00:33:00.060 And I'm not saying that it is thereby definitively that thing, but I think it's an interesting

00:33:04.740 piece of information.

00:33:06.900 Sure.

00:33:07.300 So, I mean, you know, it depends, like with the age, with the age of the person that's

00:33:14.420 involved, you know, kind of the younger, most contemporary thing is definitely more getting

00:33:19.040 into like a more stricter alien, whether it be greys and, you know, Nordics and things 0.53

00:33:24.640 like this, that comes up a lot.

00:33:27.020 You know, a little bit older, you definitely have a lot of the Egyptian rights and things

00:33:31.220 like this getting in.

00:33:33.360 Really broadly involved across the spectrum is a lot of this like, kind of like, kind of

00:33:39.940 like a earth, kind of like spirits and kind of like, you know, just really, you have a

00:33:50.280 lot of people using different terms across different times to explain the same entities

00:33:56.780 because a lot of these entities have different names across different cultures and things

00:34:00.240 like this.

00:34:01.480 But yeah, by large and far, the more younger, more contemporary thing is definitely pushing

00:34:07.240 more into the alien, greys, Nordics and that sort of thing and kind of like, you know, kind

00:34:13.860 of like, you know, ancient aliens sort of aspect, right?

00:34:17.740 And then a little bit further is more going into like just, you know, the spirits and stuff

00:34:22.060 like this.

00:34:22.640 The basis for this, here's the other thing is that you have trends in the data from

00:34:26.660 people that are kind of more newly aware subjects and then you have people that say

00:34:30.960 at the more extreme spectrum have been through like disassociative trauma therapy for like

00:34:35.900 a decade, right?

00:34:37.020 So a lot of these people that have been through disassociative trauma therapy for a decade

00:34:41.280 are finding out, hey, you know, I went through this specific function and this was brainwashing

00:34:48.680 and essentially I was put through a hero's journey and I was, you know, drugged and, you

00:34:53.520 know, I had this technology that Stanley Korn helmet, the God helmet, you know, kind of

00:34:57.400 like, you know, manipulate my brain and then I kind of went through this whole experience

00:35:01.220 and vision and this was all inside and then, you know, it's kind of like, you know, you

00:35:07.080 find that these things are taking form of like how it is effective to suggest to them.

00:35:12.200 Well, it's funny because, you know, there's Ericksonian hypnosis, which is really going

00:35:15.940 with someone and Ericksonian script kind of goes with their psyche because you don't want

00:35:21.000 to go against the flow, right?

00:35:23.320 You want to kind of go like, what do they already believe in with this?

00:35:25.880 What can you piggyback on and ride with?

00:35:27.420 It's kind of like a keto, you're using their own movement against them, right?

00:35:30.600 Because if you have to fight them tooth and nail and go against every single aspect, they're

00:35:34.220 more likely going to break through and not agree with it.

00:35:36.440 But if you go like with it and then kind of try to steer their already, you know, existing

00:35:40.840 beliefs, right?

00:35:41.880 And their, you know, kind of tendencies, then it's a lot more effective.

00:35:46.820 But, you know, really like you're getting into this like by large and far, you're looking

00:35:51.380 at Enochian, right?

00:35:53.360 You're that this is really, really, really common.

00:35:56.540 And you're looking at Solomon magic.

00:35:58.580 You're looking at, you know, you're looking at the 72 seals.

00:36:02.040 Yes.

00:36:02.460 Like this is, this is the basis because, you know, and you can look at biblical times like,

00:36:06.580 oh, Solomon, you can say, oh, the Solomon of the temple is the mind, isn't that?

00:36:09.760 Well, really what this is, is like, you know, I equate these people to cosmic fishermen to

00:36:13.540 where, you know, you'll have the five senses, right?

00:36:16.500 And just like a fisherman will make a lure and craft it to catch a specific fish, these

00:36:20.920 people, you know, will have a certain color, which colors are also on frequencies.

00:36:25.420 You have different sound, a different hymn, different frequencies.

00:36:28.220 They align these frequencies.

00:36:29.280 You have a certain act or a sin, if you will.

00:36:32.260 You have certain visual stimuli.

00:36:34.320 You do all these different stimuli and then you go cosmic fishing for a certain thing that's

00:36:38.780 out there, right?

00:36:39.460 And essentially all these seals, what they do is they correspond to parts of the brain,

00:36:44.580 autonomous, autonomous systems.

00:36:47.200 You have just the different parts of the brain or corresponds to different demons that you

00:36:51.500 can invoke.

00:36:52.660 And then you can kind of gain mastery over these parts of the brain and processes that are usually

00:36:58.080 subconsciously and autonomously regulated.

00:37:00.520 So a lot of this is kind of like brain hacking, if you will, right?

00:37:04.520 To where you just go through this very weird trauma, but it's like a five pin.

00:37:08.280 You have your five senses, it's like a five pin lock to where you have your pins are all

00:37:12.100 line different.

00:37:12.560 Then you go in and turn and it opens that part of the mind and you have access to it and

00:37:15.980 you can kind of make subtle changes, change the settings, right?

00:37:18.720 So yeah, so what you're really getting to across the board is you're looking at, you know,

00:37:23.600 Solomon's Goetia.

00:37:24.660 You're looking at the lesser key of Solomon and then you're looking at the legiment and

00:37:28.620 the legiment and I don't know the standard terms for these things, but you're looking at

00:37:32.160 all that Solomon magic is definitely the one and then Enochian, the Enochian system

00:37:37.400 protocols of communication, the Nokian magic, which is, you know, kind of like the baseline 0.98

00:37:42.020 for a lot of these hermetic societies and stuff like that.

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00:38:44.340 We accidentally figured that out.

00:38:46.480 We had a guy, Citizen Dion.

00:38:48.500 Oh, yeah.

00:38:49.140 You remember this?

00:38:50.080 He claims to be one of the people that were doing crop circles in the UK.

00:38:56.200 He says 80% of them are done by people and we were kind of like investigating further

00:39:01.100 like, well, why are you drawing these signs?

00:39:03.480 Like, where are you?

00:39:03.940 And he says he's getting them as downloads.

00:39:06.600 And I ended up showing him like a chart of the lesser keys of Solomon of the sigils on

00:39:13.440 there.

00:39:13.680 And I go, does he didn't know what it was?

00:39:15.920 Cause I cut off the, like the head words.

00:39:18.160 Yeah.

00:39:18.360 Yeah.

00:39:18.700 I was just showing him sigils.

00:39:20.200 And I was like, do you recognize any of these?

00:39:21.800 It was like, yeah, I made that one.

00:39:22.880 That one.

00:39:23.540 I was like, you ever put one of those on the floor?

00:39:25.240 He said, yeah, I put that one on the floor.

00:39:26.960 And I'm like, why?

00:39:28.180 He's like, I just came like a download.

00:39:29.740 They draw it out.

00:39:30.300 And I was like, okay, interesting.

00:39:31.760 Anyway, and they'd be like, I don't want to alarm you, but it's looking like, looking

00:39:37.540 like sigils for demons, dog.

00:39:39.240 This is, this is a huge problem.

00:39:43.100 Maybe, maybe that's not the best way to phrase it, but it's like, you're dealing with, people

00:39:48.480 have just become comfortable with hearing out victims of a satanic ritual abuse, let's

00:39:55.000 say.

00:39:55.180 And, you know, they're accepting it.

00:39:59.740 Okay.

00:40:00.320 Something's happening.

00:40:01.240 You don't have so many people coming forward, telling the same story.

00:40:03.960 And then especially with like this kind of believe victims culture, I think we've really

00:40:08.200 opened up the doors, you know, for better or for worse, for hearing these people's stories.

00:40:13.560 But it's like, to then layer on to the public, this is Solomonistic sigil magic.

00:40:19.520 You know what I mean?

00:40:20.200 It's like, but it's like over and over again, that's where it ends up going.

00:40:24.540 And it's an uphill battle.

00:40:27.300 I don't know what this looks like going forward.

00:40:31.560 You know, these people need to have their story shared.

00:40:34.020 People need to be aware of this, but it is so much more bizarre.

00:40:41.080 I mean, once you're immersed in it, once you understand it, you're like, no, this isn't

00:40:43.620 bizarre.

00:40:43.980 I can see the functionality.

00:40:44.980 I understand how this thing works.

00:40:46.860 But when you remove the entire thing from the public awareness, it's like, damn, dude.

00:40:53.120 Okay.

00:40:53.460 Yeah, sure.

00:40:53.960 These people are getting abused, you know, and there's a, there's a ritualistic element

00:40:57.660 to it.

00:40:58.240 All these things that people are going, well, I don't believe that the rituals are really

00:41:03.120 happening, but I do believe that these people are being abused.

00:41:05.300 In other words, the validity of the rituals, I don't know where to place that, but these

00:41:09.300 people are clearly being abused.

00:41:10.400 And it's like, okay, now sit down, buckle up because the rituals are very real.

00:41:13.840 And this is going back to, yeah, Babylonian magic.

00:41:17.860 And that is Enochian. 0.54

00:41:19.460 I mean, it's like, it's, that's a real hard pill for people to swallow.

00:41:22.920 I don't know what that conversation looks like going forward, but look, we're at the

00:41:25.780 38 minute mark.

00:41:26.680 I'd love to get your thoughts on that afterwards, but we got to kick off these poor people.

00:41:29.620 Guys, if you want to watch this episode, uh, patreon.com forward slash Nephilim desk

00:41:34.220 wise, where you want to be.

00:41:34.960 Otherwise give it a week or so.

00:41:36.400 And the episode will release in its entirety, but it's going to have to be a little censored for

00:41:39.820 YouTube because they're going to kick us out.

00:41:43.180 Um, so goodbye guys.

00:41:44.380 We'll see you later.

00:41:44.980 So, uh, uh, yeah, I mean, maybe you could speak to that.

00:41:47.820 And I, and then after that, I want to get into this, the patterns that emerge, the stories

00:41:52.180 that people are telling in this data that you're collecting from these experiences, how much,

00:41:57.560 how much you're actually allowed to say, how much you're allowed to say.

00:42:00.300 Yeah.

00:42:00.520 But it's like, the reason I want to get into that is because I see interviews and I see

00:42:04.780 people talking about it.

00:42:05.760 And then I see people's ears perk up.

00:42:07.220 Wait, what?

00:42:08.000 That thing happened to me.

00:42:08.820 I was part of this program.

00:42:10.300 I wore these headphones.

00:42:11.580 I drank the drink.

00:42:12.520 You know what I'm saying?

00:42:13.100 Like, Oh yeah.

00:42:13.440 The buzzer, like, uh, the, my doctor did the buzzer.

00:42:16.860 I remember the things, the big goofy headphones.

00:42:19.040 I don't, you know, they looked at me, they're like, you're a retarder. 0.99

00:42:20.980 We don't need you.

00:42:21.720 So they just gave me the headphones.

00:42:22.960 I never drank the drink, but I want to get into sort of these, uh, elements.

00:42:26.360 But first let's talk about, uh, you know, that, that whole thing, explaining to somebody

00:42:31.380 who's come to the table to have this conversation.

00:42:33.520 I'll hear you out.

00:42:34.380 And it ends in, this is solomonistic sigil magic.

00:42:37.900 Yeah.

00:42:38.400 So, I mean, honestly, like, you know, when I'm briefing people going into it, uh, that's,

00:42:42.660 you know, I go into that less.

00:42:44.520 Why?

00:42:44.980 Because it's, you know, people, people have hangups.

00:42:47.480 You know, I start off by like briefing people with like the 20 minute testimony at the 1995

00:42:52.100 ACHRE, the presidential hearing committee, uh, committee, you know, to where the therapist

00:42:56.180 and then two subjects, um, brought forth testimony and, you know, they submitted, uh, blindly

00:43:02.180 corroborating testimony from 40 therapists and hundreds of clients.

00:43:05.060 Right.

00:43:05.400 And then kind of, uh, go for it to like, you know, uh, Collins Ross, the CIA doctors, blue

00:43:10.260 bird, you know, that's, you know, built on, you know, tens of thousands of freedom information

00:43:14.360 documents and things that we know, you know, without, without a doubt.

00:43:18.040 And then just going into, Hey, you know, a lot of this is covered up and there are elements

00:43:22.500 of the therapeutic community, dissociative trauma therapists and specialists, um, that

00:43:26.700 deal with organized extreme abuse.

00:43:28.680 And what this is, this is a form of brainwashing and there's counterintelligence methods applied,

00:43:34.020 um, to specifically off put people.

00:43:37.060 So people will not want to hear it.

00:43:38.620 So people will have hangups.

00:43:39.780 It, it goes into taboo and cliches.

00:43:42.180 Um, but you know, essentially what this is, is using dark neuroscience and applying it in

00:43:47.820 as unethically as possible, behavioral, dark neuroscience, and people are being brainwashed.

00:43:52.620 Like, you know, here's where you can get the information.

00:43:54.960 There are campaigns, um, specifically to smear this information from coming out, but you can't,

00:44:00.340 uh, argue with blindly cooperating data.

00:44:03.040 And there is a history of this coming out in very credible circumstances from credible

00:44:07.800 parties.

00:44:08.460 Um, again, also depending on who I'm showing this to, there are groups of people with packages

00:44:13.880 that we have built up packages, meaning say we have two, three, 10 people.

00:44:17.820 People that have some corroborating information, um, you know, people, and we're talking about

00:44:21.780 people that are, you know, current senior project managers at Raytheon.

00:44:25.340 We have, you know, people in NASA.

00:44:26.980 We have people that are celebrities in the music industry.

00:44:29.480 We have actors, uh, things like this to where they have agreed that on extremely controlled

00:44:34.220 circumstances with people that were vetted, we will show on a case by case basis, the testimony

00:44:39.300 and the supporting evidence and other verifiable information of packages to specific people,

00:44:43.900 um, to show them like, Hey, these people are saying this.

00:44:46.620 Why would all these people say the same thing who didn't know each other?

00:44:49.120 And we're putting this together to paint the picture.

00:44:50.900 Like, obviously this is a large program that's ongoing.

00:44:53.340 You know, how does it look when we go into the ritualistic element?

00:44:57.140 I mean, again, I, I do that lesser.

00:44:59.600 Some people believe in that and kind of go into it.

00:45:02.500 Um, you know, if they already believe into it, it's, it believe it.

00:45:05.340 It's already a little bit easier, but otherwise I just focus on the dark neuroscience aspect,

00:45:09.780 because I mean, people are affected by specific trauma.

00:45:13.260 It just corresponds to different parts of the brain, symbology, all this, you know,

00:45:17.180 things are rooted in just like it octagons in red, you know, even if they don't have the word stop,

00:45:22.720 like you might automatically respond to that because it's been drilled in from young.

00:45:26.240 I mean, it's just taking advantage of certain things.

00:45:28.880 There's a lot of neuro-linguistic protocol.

00:45:30.860 It's just a lot of the way the symbology and pre-linguistic things that are embedded

00:45:35.700 in you from birth, just due to the environment affect you.

00:45:39.240 Like it's, it's just really simple.

00:45:40.760 Actually, if you break it down, how it affects you, like, uh, you know, to address this,

00:45:45.880 you don't have to believe or don't have to have a deep understanding of all of this.

00:45:49.340 Um, you know, for people to heal, yes, all elements do need to be addressed because not

00:45:54.120 only are, do they use very scientific methods and stuff like this?

00:45:57.060 Yes, there is heavy, you know, involvement of mysticism and it goes into the beliefs because

00:46:01.100 they use every single, they use that absolutely anything that can be used.

00:46:05.820 They, they touch on that, right?

00:46:07.580 So yes, for survivors healing, that needs to be addressed, but for people to recognize the

00:46:11.640 validity of this and then address this actionably, um, they don't have to agree or understand

00:46:16.320 every single aspect.

00:46:17.280 And I don't ask them to, um, so I don't always go into that.

00:46:20.640 Um, if it comes up, yeah, we discuss it.

00:46:22.960 Um, but you know, it's, it's one of those things that you can get lost on.

00:46:26.380 And, and again, you know, I, I don't push for anything other than action on verifiable

00:46:32.020 data.

00:46:32.620 So, you know, that, that's really what it is, but I have a very down to earth briefing process

00:46:37.440 where I walk people through kind of like the checkpoints from paperclip, um, show linked

00:46:42.660 the involvement from paperclip to Iran Contra to now the UAP involvement, you know, from the

00:46:47.760 1995 ACHRE, um, to some of these books written from based on freedom of information act documents,

00:46:53.740 uh, to now the current testimony and the packages that we have ready to show people behind the

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00:47:55.760 I got a couple of questions, but I'm not, I'm not even sure where I want to, because the

00:48:02.640 next couple of questions could lead this wildly in one direction or another.

00:48:06.520 But, all right.

00:48:08.320 We spoke with the guy, Randy Goodman.

00:48:09.780 He's an SRA deliverance minister.

00:48:12.580 And something he said, kind of like always, I ask it or I mention it all the time.

00:48:18.300 He says when he's doing the deliverance with the people who have been subjected to satanic

00:48:23.680 ritual abuse, if they are delivered, it's all good.

00:48:28.740 And sometimes they can go on to lead a somewhat normal life, meaning like they could, they have

00:48:34.100 broken whatever programming and they're able to now function in a different way.

00:48:38.580 And I go, well, this seems dangerous for you.

00:48:40.720 And he says, it's fine.

00:48:41.880 So long as these entities, quote, not, not, not even necessarily like spiritual entities,

00:48:48.100 but like even government entities, like dark actors, something.

00:48:51.180 Like he's like, they get their package back or their, like their information packet from

00:48:56.760 a person.

00:48:57.080 It's almost like their program that they put in.

00:48:58.700 Yeah.

00:48:58.860 The way he likened it was like, is if you're putting like, you know.

00:49:01.380 Like a chip in someone's head.

00:49:02.660 And they're like, I gotta come get back my chip.

00:49:04.340 Yeah.

00:49:04.480 I'm like, do you mean like a folder?

00:49:05.660 Like, what do they have?

00:49:06.840 Information?

00:49:07.360 And he was like, no, it's not.

00:49:08.300 They just get their information back.

00:49:09.820 If they can get their whatever back for the, to put in the next person or for confidentiality,

00:49:17.200 they don't bother with him because I was saying, you know, if you're like tampering

00:49:21.120 with their system, deprogramming people, or at least trying to tampering with government

00:49:26.040 property.

00:49:26.860 Yeah.

00:49:27.420 Yeah.

00:49:27.800 What the hell does that mean in your opinion, where these people are getting back their intellectual

00:49:34.760 property from a subject and how does that even work?

00:49:40.320 I mean, I mean, in my experience, uh, I don't completely agree with that statement.

00:49:46.600 I mean, here's what it is.

00:49:47.540 Cause you know, I, I deal with tons of deliverance ministers, you know,

00:49:51.020 uh, therapists across the board.

00:49:53.460 Again, they're using everything.

00:49:54.900 And here's the deal is, okay.

00:49:56.720 Who is he dealing with?

00:49:57.640 Is he dealing with people?

00:49:58.860 You have a huge amount of people that have went through this base level, but a lot of

00:50:03.940 this, again, when it got industrialized post-World War II paperclip through the NDEA, you know,

00:50:08.900 here in the U S through the national defense education act, and then just stemming to where

00:50:12.580 all the proxies and there's kind of like, uh, you know, self-regulating self replicating

00:50:17.580 mechanisms that are, you know, making these subjects, you know, they all get this base

00:50:21.480 program and go through this base trauma that the government doesn't want to do itself.

00:50:25.840 Right.

00:50:26.220 And it keeps their hands clean and then they can pull from that pool of abused children. 0.99

00:50:30.240 Right.

00:50:30.740 Like, you know, they have even like the government through clandestine services is teaching

00:50:34.400 pedophiles, no mark torture methods, like spin programming to where they can create this

00:50:38.840 traumatic base that then they can grab certain subjects from it later and pull them into the

00:50:43.500 program.

00:50:43.900 So like, okay, who is this guy going through this deliverance ministry with, you know,

00:50:47.600 he's helping these people perhaps face this trauma and release this.

00:50:51.040 And yes, whether you see the entities is real or not, the, the, the point is, is that there

00:50:57.040 is such power and control that is demonstrated to these people when they're young, they might not

00:51:02.500 be able to face it on their own.

00:51:03.920 So going through and using a higher power to release this, especially as allowing that

00:51:08.400 psychological mechanism for them to release it themselves.

00:51:11.680 And, you know, whether it's real.

00:51:13.040 Okay.

00:51:13.320 So the real that is happening through the higher power and through, you know, whether it be

00:51:16.800 through the power of Jesus or whether it be through other deliverance methods, you know,

00:51:21.200 so it can be real, it can be not.

00:51:23.220 But the point is, so like these people that he's, you know, doing deliverance ministry to

00:51:27.980 are these active assets that are really like enrolled, like as an operational asset that's

00:51:33.440 being utilized common, or is it just kind of like a reserve sleeper force that not necessarily

00:51:37.660 has ever been activated or upkept and isn't like currently really enrolled in operational

00:51:42.440 programs.

00:51:43.120 So, so that, that's the aspect because like, it's all going to depend on who you mess with,

00:51:46.800 how useful was this person and how deeply are they involved?

00:51:49.600 Because if you touch through certain people, like, yeah, there's going to be lash back.

00:51:54.100 Okay.

00:51:54.580 Like, and one that's already like individually installed in specific people to where they

00:51:59.760 may sabotage or do it themselves or something like that.

00:52:01.920 Then you have the localized network, right.

00:52:03.980 Of people that are directly handling them and also ultimately responsible and punishment

00:52:07.440 would befall them as well.

00:52:08.580 If their asset gets out and leaks information.

00:52:10.000 And then you have, you know, through the top as well.

00:52:12.660 So like, if you go barking up the wrong tree and you mess with the wrong people, you better

00:52:15.940 believe there's going to be some lash back.

00:52:17.780 You know, um, the other thing is through this like deliverance ministry and stuff, you got to

00:52:21.840 understand, especially when people get into like the government level program to the room

00:52:26.080 and active operations, there is a method to where like these people go through this and

00:52:31.080 there's a surface level integration that allows people to think they're healed and free.

00:52:35.600 Um, and they have a slight change.

00:52:37.740 Um, but the underlying mechanisms aren't actually undone.

00:52:40.980 They don't have the 1 800 numbers that change on a basis according to the day that they can

00:52:46.020 call in and report.

00:52:47.020 They don't have, uh, the access of where they can be activated in those codes and that

00:52:52.720 layered mechanism.

00:52:53.980 Like, you know, so it's like, how free are these people actually?

00:52:57.160 Right.

00:52:57.460 So like, as far as he's talking about these people get their packets back and stuff like

00:53:00.860 that, what are you talking about?

00:53:02.320 No, that's.

00:53:02.800 I have no idea.

00:53:03.560 The way I see it, that's not an actual thing like that.

00:53:07.080 Um, you know, like if these people are free and all that, like, uh, there's not like a

00:53:11.120 set amount of spirits that they can send out that inhabit these people.

00:53:14.660 And then they're going to come back to base and be used on another person.

00:53:17.620 It's not like you're pulling these chips out of the people's head and be like, okay, we

00:53:20.560 got to reuse this chip because we have a finite number of chips.

00:53:23.080 That's not a thing.

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00:54:22.720 That's interesting.

00:54:23.660 Have you ever seen the film Weapons?

00:54:26.580 It's a new one.

00:54:28.660 It's got, you know, sort of this idea of like witchcraft done to children in a public

00:54:33.840 school system that causes them to become like weapons when activated.

00:54:38.180 And they're just not hiding it anymore.

00:54:40.820 It's kind of hilarious.

00:54:41.920 Yeah.

00:54:42.160 And there's all these things.

00:54:43.340 I don't know if Operation Paperclip was 48 or 45, but I've kind of drew this connection

00:54:49.000 to, you know, it almost seems like they're hinting at Operation Paperclip in the back

00:54:54.180 of the film because I can't watch anything anymore without looking at all like the crap

00:54:57.440 that they're trying to say in the background.

00:54:58.840 And it's like they keep showing you images of 1948.

00:55:01.320 It's like written on a chalkboard.

00:55:02.860 It shows up on a pamphlet.

00:55:04.120 It's over and over again.

00:55:05.480 And then you're also getting these concepts of parasites that also keep coming up in the

00:55:10.300 background.

00:55:10.840 Parasites, parasitic, you know, relationships.

00:55:13.200 They're talking about cordyceps, mushrooms, creating a parasitic relationship with their

00:55:17.360 host, all this other stuff.

00:55:18.520 And then you're seeing in the background also information about whales and their communication

00:55:22.620 through frequency.

00:55:23.360 And so these three elements, right, Operation Paperclip, frequency, frequency, conductivity,

00:55:31.500 and also parasites comes up a lot over and over again.

00:55:34.800 And we're talking about like recognizing patterns.

00:55:36.680 You've got all this data coming in.

00:55:37.860 I'm sure these patterns are emerging.

00:55:39.600 I wonder, are you finding, because in our research, we're finding the prevalence of a

00:55:45.660 frequency conducting technology.

00:55:47.140 And that doesn't necessarily have to be like a chip, but it could be just this strange piece

00:55:51.860 of metal.

00:55:52.300 Obviously, people that are abducted by like aliens, which I think the alien abductee phenomenon

00:55:56.820 plugs into this pretty tightly.

00:55:59.100 I mean, we started off looking up Andreeja Buharich and his patent on the dental tooth

00:56:04.180 implant that they were using for some sort of voice to skull technology.

00:56:08.100 And from there, we were like, what the, you know, and it just you go down the rabbit hole

00:56:11.180 again, and it seems as if they've gotten a lot better at this stuff.

00:56:15.900 Yeah, it's gotten to the point where I'm actively suspecting that one of the points of

00:56:20.880 like the vaccine program is to get these these known heavy metals to cross the blood brain

00:56:26.260 barrier so that they can settle there. 0.95

00:56:27.800 And it's like the most effective version of a metal based frequency conducting technology,

00:56:33.460 but it's straight to your brain instead of to your tooth or something like that.

00:56:36.360 And it's in everybody.

00:56:36.920 Yeah.

00:56:37.220 And it's in everybody.

00:56:38.000 And so then, you know, you get into the telepathy tapes and these nonverbal autistic kids, 0.97

00:56:41.220 and now they're communicating telepathically.

00:56:43.060 I don't I don't want to go there.

00:56:44.280 But where I do want to go is in your data in your research, how often does the idea of

00:56:49.160 like an implant come up at all?

00:56:52.380 Oh, so the implants are, you know, almost especially if they're used at a certain level

00:56:57.400 implant standard, whether it be a real implant, or whether it be, you know, fake suedo surgery

00:57:04.140 that made them think they have an implant.

00:57:06.300 So they think that they are constantly being monitored by an all powerful entity.

00:57:10.120 And this goes hand in hand with what's called report programming, because like the number

00:57:13.800 one thing there's base program people, if they're going to get used in this, they have

00:57:17.740 to have successful base programming and base programming is essentially like there's like

00:57:21.960 a stop halt command.

00:57:23.860 So like they don't hurt their programmer or anything like that, especially for males, right?

00:57:28.300 And then you have and then you have essentially gamma disinformation, which is like unauthorized

00:57:34.300 disclosure.

00:57:34.820 If you go outside of this compartmented, you know, neural network or whatever you want to

00:57:40.700 call, there's different terminology again, you know, that they will essentially, you know,

00:57:46.560 ab react and like, you know, start injecting nonsensical information or even sensical information

00:57:52.560 that's irrelevant, right?

00:57:53.560 To confuse their disclosure, gamma disinformation, then omega, which is, you know, kind of like suicide

00:57:58.760 programming and stuff like that.

00:58:00.180 So you have your fail safes that are installed.

00:58:01.760 You have your stop halt, you have your disinformation and then self-harm fail safes.

00:58:07.240 It's super priority subjects.

00:58:08.520 It goes from self-harm to homicide and stuff like that.

00:58:11.920 And then also apart from that is you have your report mechanisms and the self-reporting

00:58:16.720 mechanisms is to where the people will essentially monitor themselves and report on any information.

00:58:22.520 You know, with there's unauthorized disclosures, especially externally, but even internally, if

00:58:27.200 there's breaches in this neural network, right, in this self-contained situation, if people

00:58:31.360 start remembering too much in the middle of the night, especially they'll report on themselves

00:58:35.580 and this can happen through phones and stuff like that and get wiped and all that.

00:58:39.220 So people go through this base programming.

00:58:41.320 So, you know, part of this is often an implant.

00:58:43.720 Here's the thing is nowadays, especially if they went in the government and implants are 0.54

00:58:47.880 pretty standard and they have them so microscopic and there's different types of implants.

00:58:52.080 You have implants that got much smaller over time to now there's like, unfortunately, like

00:58:56.620 it literally is self-assembling nanites and stuff like this.

00:58:59.360 But just to let you know, too, this is identifiable.

00:59:03.440 If they have real implants, this can be done is they go either in a Faraday cage or an anechoic

00:59:08.520 chamber, which is expensive and hard to get into.

00:59:11.340 But essentially, you can use a spectrum analyzer, which sees all the frequency bands and stuff

00:59:15.320 like this.

00:59:15.940 Now, these implants by default are dormant, so they won't just be broadcasting a signal.

00:59:19.960 But if, you know, we have certain bands of frequencies and these bands, I want you to

00:59:24.200 know, some are registered in NATO, some are Naval Research Lab.

00:59:27.620 There's a few others that I'm not going to get into that aren't public.

00:59:31.140 But what can happen is you can burst a certain frequency at them and specifically at the point

00:59:35.840 in their body where there is an implant or just generally.

00:59:39.280 And then what happens is that implant will become powered and will burst back.

00:59:43.260 And what they do is they burst kind of like in a Morse code, but it's a different encrypted

00:59:46.640 mechanism, right?

00:59:48.080 So, like, it is a verifiable situation.

00:59:50.760 If you get these people where you can isolate the frequencies, have a spectrum analyzer and

00:59:54.260 then burst the frequency at them, it can make this implant come out of its dormant state

00:59:57.940 and burst back.

00:59:58.700 So there is monitoring and there is implants.

01:00:00.740 It is a thing.

01:00:01.700 But also, there's definitely a lot of fake implants.

01:00:04.660 And there's a lot of processes to where people go through this so they think they're being monitored

01:00:09.260 and they think they're powerless.

01:00:10.740 And then this also reinforces the part to where, hey, they better tell on themselves so they

01:00:14.640 face less of a punishment than if the people see it and they didn't report on themselves,

01:00:18.520 right?

01:00:18.860 Because, like, you know, there's part of them that's made responsible.

01:00:21.480 But it's not just technological implants.

01:00:24.800 Also, what's really heavily utilized is that there are deliberate parasites used and even

01:00:30.660 cultured parasites.

01:00:31.500 And there's also fungal networks.

01:00:33.300 And you can even look in Department of Energy has a patent specifically for fungal networks.

01:00:38.220 And if you think about this, it's very interesting because you go into like, and you go into

01:00:41.960 autistic kids and stuff like this that, you know, have these things and like, okay, so

01:00:45.760 the human brain, it's capable of a lot of things, right?

01:00:48.840 And we only use a certain percent and stuff like this.

01:00:50.600 So maybe there is dormant parts from way back before we had developed in certain ways or

01:00:54.960 whatever, before we were modified, whatever you want to believe.

01:00:57.160 There's different parts of the brain that have different abilities.

01:00:59.360 You have a fungal network.

01:01:00.620 It goes in.

01:01:01.120 What does it do?

01:01:01.600 It maps out everything.

01:01:03.060 You have parasites, just like parasites will control animals and guide them to places to do and

01:01:07.740 stuff like that.

01:01:08.040 What do they do?

01:01:08.700 They map out parts of the brain and then they can stimulate parts of the brain and take

01:01:12.060 control of the host.

01:01:13.440 So what a lot of these actual age-old occult techniques do, but also what the government's

01:01:17.500 learning to do from some of this is they use this fungal infection.

01:01:22.220 They use this parasitic infestation to essentially map out and then essentially nest in certain parts

01:01:31.260 of the brain, which then become controllable or utilizable, right?

01:01:34.760 Um, and then they can kind of like, it creates a mechanism to where they can control it and

01:01:38.720 access it.

01:01:39.320 And then also some of these parasites, um, and some of these fungal networks also respond

01:01:44.440 to frequency and age transmission in different ways.

01:01:46.940 So, yeah.

01:01:47.260 Okay.

01:01:47.540 This is, this is perfect.

01:01:49.380 This is plugging exactly into where I was about to go.

01:01:51.880 And this is just, just to, for the audience sake, DOE funded research at Oak Ridge in 2019.

01:01:58.860 It's just a Google search not to pull it up, but, uh, led by ORNL, uh, which I guess is

01:02:04.800 a, a scientific research.

01:02:06.560 Um, and yeah, they're, they're doing it specifically on the symbiotic relationship between, uh, plants

01:02:12.500 and, and soil fungi, but the way that they communicate that neural network, uh, that kind

01:02:16.860 of became really popular actually was a huge talking point on, on Rogan, which you're talking

01:02:21.300 about big podcasters that, you know, end up in a weird space.

01:02:24.080 Rogan, we kind of call him like the modern day Laurel Canyon.

01:02:28.100 You know what I mean?

01:02:28.380 Where was it?

01:02:29.040 Edgewood, you said?

01:02:29.840 No, Oak Ridge.

01:02:30.700 Oak Ridge.

01:02:31.140 Oak Ridge.

01:02:31.740 Yeah.

01:02:33.900 Yeah.

01:02:34.860 Yep.

01:02:35.160 Yep.

01:02:35.560 Um, is Oak Ridge the place where they have the, uh, hydrant collider, the hadron.

01:02:39.320 Yeah.

01:02:39.460 Okay.

01:02:39.640 Yeah.

01:02:39.860 Yeah.

01:02:40.940 So, um, now, okay.

01:02:42.880 We're talking parasites.

01:02:43.940 We're talking, uh, fungal networks of communication, parasites that hijack the mind and can control

01:02:50.000 the host, tell it to go do this, tell it to go do that.

01:02:52.260 And even the frequency conducting technology, just to go back to the whole alien abductee

01:02:56.760 thing, we listened to somebody recently.

01:02:58.400 This comes up very often.

01:03:00.340 Um, they claim to have been a lifelong abductee victim.

01:03:03.340 They don't see it as being a victim.

01:03:04.520 They see it as like being super cool, whatever.

01:03:06.520 Uh, but they were given an implant, uh, at a young age that implant allows for two-way

01:03:11.880 communication, both, um, uh, you know, auditory, but also it shares the visual cortex between

01:03:18.840 them and another entity, tall nords.

01:03:20.600 You mentioned them before, that's apparently what's going on here, but this isn't an isolated

01:03:24.400 situation.

01:03:25.020 So people will often talk about these, uh, these implants creating that, that form of

01:03:30.580 communication.

01:03:31.340 So we've got parasites that are telling you what to do, right?

01:03:35.600 We have a frequency conducting technology that is putting you in a two-way communication

01:03:40.040 with entities.

01:03:40.620 We're also talking about a fungal network that communicates.

01:03:43.940 There's a lot of communication.

01:03:45.460 There's a lot of, uh, this is bringing me right to what I wanted to ask you on this show.

01:03:50.460 We're very comfortable with the idea that schizophrenia is not at all what we're being

01:03:55.520 led to believe by the medical industry, but schizophrenia is actually an external thing, uh, communicating, or maybe it could

01:04:02.860 be, but it's outside of your own psyche.

01:04:04.740 In other words, it's not you that is, uh, experiencing a chemical brain imbalance of some sort, that this

01:04:12.960 is actually something communicating with these individuals.

01:04:15.460 I got to imagine schizophrenia comes up a lot in these testimonies that you're receiving.

01:04:22.540 Yeah.

01:04:24.000 I mean, you know, there, there's a large part of people when they saw, you know, uh, official

01:04:28.040 help that they were, you know, diagnosed with schizophrenia and, you know, medicated and

01:04:32.400 stuff like that.

01:04:33.100 So, yeah, I mean, schizophrenia comes up, uh, constantly, I mean, you know, and a lot of

01:04:36.700 people start, uh, you know, self-diagnosing when they start finding out something's wrong

01:04:41.260 and all that, and they say, oh, I might be schizophrenic when they look it up and, and stuff

01:04:44.320 like this.

01:04:44.980 Um, but yeah, there's, I mean, definitely is a relationship with schizophrenia and what's funny

01:04:49.540 too, because schizophrenia is what split mind, you know, if you look into exactly what it

01:04:54.200 is.

01:04:54.400 So, you know, whether you go to dissociation or whatever, and you know, it's, it's funny

01:04:57.900 because even the memory and stuff like this, there's a lot of thoughts that like the, the

01:05:00.940 brain is kind of like a switchboard and a lot of this, uh, uh, is non-localized and it's

01:05:04.920 actually out there and information is coming in and out.

01:05:07.220 And there's even been events with like people with like brain damage and stuff like this,

01:05:10.460 which you're missing parts of their brain and then shouldn't have access to certain

01:05:13.220 memories and things like this.

01:05:14.540 There's even, or they have like, uh, they'll learn a new language or something.

01:05:17.940 Yeah.

01:05:18.120 Or they learn a skill, they're suddenly a, a savant at the piano, or they're a mathematician.

01:05:22.980 Yeah.

01:05:23.360 Or they're a really good podcaster.

01:05:24.720 Some weird relationships.

01:05:26.020 And I do want to mention though.

01:05:27.140 So like, you know, you have your fungal, uh, aspects, you have your parasitic aspect, you

01:05:30.440 have the technology aspect.

01:05:31.700 All this is being researched.

01:05:32.840 Why?

01:05:33.180 Because just like with MK ultra with 149 sub projects that we know of, um, where they research

01:05:38.120 every single modality and every single thing, uh, these, all of these things are, are being

01:05:43.000 researched.

01:05:43.380 What's the most effective?

01:05:44.800 Okay.

01:05:45.140 What are the pros and cons?

01:05:46.240 Is this interruptible like this?

01:05:47.660 Can people flush the parasites out?

01:05:49.520 Can people, um, zap the technology with this and get rid of it?

01:05:52.680 Um, is this technology detectable?

01:05:54.760 Um, is this have its pros and cons?

01:05:56.300 Are there certain genetic factors that anchor in more with other people?

01:05:59.500 Is there predisposition, predispositions to things being more effective?

01:06:02.560 And then some companies just want their own proprietary thing, uh, because, you know, some

01:06:06.800 of this information is split up and there's different factions that, you know, have advanced

01:06:10.440 in different areas.

01:06:11.440 Right.

01:06:11.980 So, uh, you know, a lot of these things are just overlapping things.

01:06:15.160 Right.

01:06:15.340 Cause if you, you know, have a dog and you really want to get them and you put a GPS tracker

01:06:19.220 on them, right?

01:06:19.660 Like that's one aspect, but like, okay, what if happens and they slip the collar off and

01:06:22.780 they don't have the GPS tracker?

01:06:23.680 Is there another thing we can do to make him identifiable?

01:06:26.420 Then he has a chip in them too.

01:06:27.400 So they can get scanned.

01:06:28.300 Like what all, you know, so as many layered things you can have, you want to stack them,

01:06:32.280 but also there's just different facets of research and they all have their benefits of their pros

01:06:35.860 and they all have their cons.

01:06:37.020 So this is something that's rolled out.

01:06:39.120 It's MK free range, MK ultra chickens, right?

01:06:41.540 If you have this many modalities, this is something that you could really implement at scale.

01:06:46.380 But what is it?

01:06:46.920 Yeah.

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01:07:45.300 From Operation Paperclip to go from these, I guess these like isolated incidents of just

01:07:54.780 Manchurian candidates, not necessarily isolated, but in a much smaller of a scope to proliferating

01:08:01.400 it across, I guess the entire world, but definitely America.

01:08:04.640 I know America seems like ground zero for this, this program.

01:08:10.320 Why everybody, why spread this out so thin?

01:08:14.340 Why, why make everybody susceptible to some form of this?

01:08:18.580 I mean, like you, you watch children's television and just the switching of the scenes every three

01:08:23.340 seconds is a form of mind control.

01:08:25.180 The flicker rate of your light bulb or even your TV, it's, it's making you suggestible to

01:08:30.500 whatever.

01:08:31.660 And then that's, we're not even mentioning the things that are inside of your body that

01:08:34.640 are convinced, you know, we're convincing you whether you're eating it, breathing it

01:08:37.840 or injecting it.

01:08:39.620 Why spread it to this, this large of a level?

01:08:44.460 Well, and just to touch on this and there's patents to support some of these flicker rates

01:08:48.940 and different things that, you know, to where the TV even, right.

01:08:51.760 We'll kind of put you in a trance and stuff like this.

01:08:53.940 There's, there's different aspects of this.

01:08:55.640 Well, I mean, here's the thing is the people doing this, what do they want?

01:08:58.540 They want power and control.

01:08:59.840 One, this is the top down approach.

01:09:01.400 The people that get the Manchurian candidate level programming tend to be the people in

01:09:05.780 positions of power and governance and the people with influence.

01:09:08.940 So you get your top 1%, like a military aged, the number one show for military aged male

01:09:14.900 demographic, right.

01:09:16.000 They'll want that person as a Manchurian candidate, you know, whether it be the president or governors

01:09:20.860 and senators, they want those people as Manchurian candidates.

01:09:23.460 Their decision affects others, you know, and so people in positions of power and influence,

01:09:27.740 they'll have the most programming so they can have control over the others.

01:09:31.560 And it's not feasible to do that to everybody.

01:09:34.120 Now, obviously, they're implementing this in a more widespread area and down to controlling

01:09:38.380 social media algorithms and stuff like this.

01:09:40.220 Also, hand in hand, you go with the flicker rate and different things and the different

01:09:42.960 scenes in, in the shows.

01:09:44.480 It's also lowering attention spans, which, you know, it controls the way they get information.

01:09:48.640 But so here's the thing is they want to control the populace.

01:09:51.120 They want the populace to be okay, and they don't want to have to fight them hand and

01:09:55.340 foot.

01:09:55.680 They want worker ants. 1.00

01:09:57.080 They want two classes, a master class and a slave class. 0.99

01:09:59.860 They want people to rule over because you've got to have that contrast.

01:10:03.040 Otherwise, you're nothing special, right, if everybody's on the same foot.

01:10:05.920 So you've got to have that contrast.

01:10:06.880 But like they want control.

01:10:08.200 They want, you know, unquestioned, all-encompassing control of people.

01:10:12.120 So if you don't get them when you're young and you don't have to exercise that control

01:10:15.640 over the populace, they're not going to be subservient.

01:10:17.980 They're not going to be efficient.

01:10:18.900 They're not going to do what you want because these people also want to progress.

01:10:21.820 So say, hey, we're going to roll out this technology, but this technology is a double-edged

01:10:25.480 sword that can even be used against us, just like the internet, right?

01:10:28.560 So what do they do?

01:10:29.760 They put different steps in place and say, hey, we can do this, but still, we need to

01:10:33.660 have the populace under our thumb.

01:10:35.080 Hey, we want to do this.

01:10:35.960 We need to build this new technology.

01:10:37.320 We need worker ants to do this. 1.00

01:10:38.980 We need worker bees to do this. 1.00

01:10:40.140 So we'll get the populace to do this, but we need to control them and make sure they stay

01:10:43.040 in their box.

01:10:43.740 We want them to own nothing and be happy.

01:10:45.360 We want them with the low attention span. 0.99

01:10:47.000 We want them to do their assigned roles.

01:10:48.900 So it's just all about exercising that control and power because they still want, they want

01:10:53.120 to rule.

01:10:53.620 They want power.

01:10:54.240 They want control, but they also want progress and to build, and they have to control the

01:10:58.400 community.

01:10:58.880 Also, the community that's not controlled becomes a risk because, again, when they have

01:11:03.160 access to all these different things, you know, they could make waves and, you know,

01:11:07.020 unite against.

01:11:08.000 So like they have to have, I mean, why wouldn't you want to affect the populace with this?

01:11:11.820 If you're the type of person that wants to exercise power and control and wants everybody

01:11:15.080 to do what, you know, what you say and work for you and work towards the goals that you

01:11:19.340 want, you need to control them.

01:11:21.300 Otherwise, one, you know, you can't do what you want.

01:11:24.240 And two is they might turn against you, right?

01:11:25.800 Especially when they find this out in this age of interconnectivity.

01:11:29.300 Yeah.

01:11:30.380 Trauma has a great way of making something.

01:11:33.020 You don't even have to think about it on like such a psychologically advanced way that these

01:11:37.400 programs are looking at it.

01:11:38.880 It's like if you traumatize an animal, it becomes very submissive and it'll do what you say.

01:11:46.140 And then, you know, obviously there's all kinds of layers of benefits on top of that.

01:11:49.460 You can keep going further.

01:11:50.320 But yeah, as far as suggestibility, willingness to give in to fear, which is something that

01:11:56.320 we're constantly inundated with, you know, best example, you go back to after 9-11 and

01:12:01.760 it was like terrorism.

01:12:03.280 I swear they had an issue that went out and said, you need to say the phrase terrorism

01:12:08.140 at least once every two minutes.

01:12:10.520 And it was like this constant threat.

01:12:12.320 Read off to them.

01:12:13.720 Today's threat level, orange.

01:12:16.000 It's an orange.

01:12:16.860 Remember that?

01:12:17.600 Back in the day, they would do those orange threat levels or whatever.

01:12:20.160 They would tell you the likelihood of getting bombed.

01:12:22.100 It just seems like I understand.

01:12:24.920 I understand what you're saying.

01:12:26.240 Like, yeah, you would want that, but you keep them in fear.

01:12:28.440 And then you go one day, you go, hey, here's a solution.

01:12:30.640 But it's the point of diminishing returns.

01:12:32.360 Like we're reaching that point of diminishing returns where you're continually trauma fear

01:12:38.120 basing an entire generation of people.

01:12:40.920 And so they don't, it doesn't seem to be, I mean, I guess maybe some new iterations of

01:12:46.220 the mind control work.

01:12:47.200 But every time I look around me, I'm like, more people seem to be aware of the techniques

01:12:53.140 than ever.

01:12:54.360 And it's like, you guys seem like you're losing control when you were good before, before you

01:13:00.420 wanted to take the whole, the whole chessboard.

01:13:02.920 Well, that's like when we were talking to Danny yesterday and she's like, is that the

01:13:06.980 case?

01:13:07.320 Or are we just in like a really unique echo chamber on Twitter?

01:13:10.020 Or is this a representation of the populace that's always been?

01:13:13.060 It's people.

01:13:14.020 Well, we're in Florida.

01:13:15.020 So I like, but I told you, you know, I went back to New Jersey and they're like, you know,

01:13:19.200 they don't know anything at all.

01:13:20.520 And I'm like, okay, you know, we haven't made as much progress as I thought, maybe a little

01:13:23.880 bit.

01:13:24.120 Um, but I think that that's, that's gotta be it.

01:13:27.480 I mean, even, even just on the utilitarian thing, it's like, if you want to invade a 0.89

01:13:30.640 foreign country, you first have to traumatize us constantly inundating us with all kinds 1.00

01:13:35.100 of horrifying crap.

01:13:36.100 I mean, you know, the Charlie Kirk thing is like, you know, if you want to spur some sort

01:13:41.660 of a movement, if you want to subvert and create a revolution here in America, um, and

01:13:47.100 I'm not saying, you know, you can say whatever you want about Charlie Kirk's death, that image

01:13:51.640 of him lurched over and, and all that blood pouring out of his neck is like, I mean, the

01:13:57.260 first couple of days afterwards, that's, they no longer have to strap us in the chair, um,

01:14:03.140 uh, clockwork orange style and peel our eyelids open.

01:14:06.560 We're just willingly doing it with this little black box in our face, just watching this dude

01:14:10.840 bleed out over and over again.

01:14:12.120 It's like, you know, um, but I want to get into, uh, the Gates program.

01:14:17.400 We don't have a tremendous amount of time left.

01:14:19.220 And this is something that's really fascinating.

01:14:21.200 It's become kind of viral, at least in our corner of conspiracy realm, right?

01:14:25.820 Uh, certain corners of, of X or what have you.

01:14:29.540 And it's hard to say definitively what it is.

01:14:32.680 You get a lot of really fun stuff.

01:14:34.040 One of the examples I like to use is there's like a YouTuber.

01:14:36.820 He was kind of really early on the YouTube wave.

01:14:39.440 So he's famous.

01:14:40.100 I don't know his name, but he's got a big show.

01:14:42.300 Had a lady come on. 1.00

01:14:43.380 She comes on, starts talking about MK ultra.

01:14:45.420 And he experienced, I'm sorry.

01:14:47.680 He started talking about the Gates program and he experienced what a lot of people.

01:14:50.720 On the internet have been experiencing.

01:14:52.600 And that is hearing the details of what the Gates program is like and realizing that he

01:14:59.480 had been subjected to it on some level or another.

01:15:01.520 And I think a lot of us understand a lot of the elements.

01:15:04.420 Some of us have experienced more than others, but by the end of it, he was left basically

01:15:10.200 shocked that he's like, Oh my God, I've been through this thing from where I'm sitting.

01:15:15.120 It kind of looks like maybe a selection process.

01:15:18.100 What is the Gates program?

01:15:20.580 Where is it happening?

01:15:21.760 And what's the point?

01:15:23.540 Yeah.

01:15:23.820 So, I mean, when you get into Gates, we're talking about gifted and talented.

01:15:27.840 You know, there's going to be a bunch of names for this early on.

01:15:31.220 It was MGM.

01:15:32.320 You got tag.

01:15:33.000 You got gate.

01:15:33.640 You got high cap.

01:15:34.740 You have core.

01:15:35.600 You have encore.

01:15:36.240 You have so many different names, regional equivalents.

01:15:38.840 We're talking about gifted and talented education.

01:15:40.620 We're talking about enrichment.

01:15:42.380 We're talking about pullout programs.

01:15:44.800 And really, this goes hand in hand with other programs, too, into vocational and stuff like

01:15:49.080 this.

01:15:49.300 But this was made under the National Defense Education Act.

01:15:53.640 Okay.

01:15:54.040 And, you know, following Sputnik and this whole Cold War era, we created the National Defense

01:15:59.280 Education Act.

01:16:00.320 In response, we had to make sure that all of our people are prepared, you know, for national

01:16:05.640 defense, hence National Defense Education Act.

01:16:08.380 Okay.

01:16:08.620 So, you know, what this really made was funding for, one was Project Talent, which Project

01:16:14.680 Talent basically identifies candidates that would go into Gates and other things, right?

01:16:20.140 And it's also a lifelong monitoring thing.

01:16:23.060 Project Talent also, hand in hand, that was made by John C. Flanagan.

01:16:27.200 The funny thing is John C. Flanagan was selecting the combat fighter pilots before this, right?

01:16:32.600 So in World War II and other things in the military, he selected combat fighter pilots, which

01:16:36.460 is one of the most, like, strenuous jobs, and also in charge of some of the most expensive

01:16:40.140 equipment that you could fuck up.

01:16:41.640 And, you know, they don't want that, right?

01:16:42.860 So Project Talent, John C. Flanagan is finding these people, right?

01:16:48.600 And then with Project Talent's planned program, which was computerized curriculum, okay?

01:16:55.360 Now, it's not always the whole curriculum adjusted.

01:16:57.620 It might just be that people are took out for a gate class or a pull-out enrichment class

01:17:00.820 or regional equivalent, whatever.

01:17:02.040 But some people actually skipped grades.

01:17:04.460 Some people went into a whole separate thing, right?

01:17:07.260 Even different magnet schools or different things like this, right?

01:17:10.620 So anyways, Project Talent goes hand in hand with gate.

01:17:13.340 That's the selection and all that.

01:17:15.260 Then in gate, yes, this, a lot of people, you know, with the headphones, you know, with

01:17:19.860 the Zenner cards, with the pink drink, with all this, like, this was another step in

01:17:25.300 the selection process and finding people that were suitable to then funnel to further

01:17:29.920 programs, you know?

01:17:31.000 And it wasn't just PSI testing, because I know a lot of people in a lot of ways this

01:17:34.280 is presented is that, hey, this was testing for PSI and all that.

01:17:38.180 Yes, that's a major aspect of it.

01:17:40.820 And just to touch on the PSI aspect, one, one of the godfathers, grandfathers of gate

01:17:45.960 is John C. Gowen.

01:17:47.900 And what he does, if you look it up, this, he wrote a few books and he, like, taxonomy

01:17:52.940 of consciousness.

01:17:53.740 Essentially, what he took was age-old mysticism and occult initiations and different aspects

01:17:58.760 of these disassociative trance states and their qualities as they related to phenomena.

01:18:03.180 And what he did was he basically switched up the nomenclature to very scientific articulation

01:18:08.540 and wrote it so it could be into a curriculum.

01:18:11.880 At the same time, it gets into Dabrowski.

01:18:14.760 You have Dabrowski, and what Dabrowski is known for is they called it positive disintegration.

01:18:19.920 And what positive disintegration is, is using trauma to disassociate.

01:18:24.220 So essentially, like, it's showed with a pyramid to where a pyramid's made.

01:18:28.340 But at first, there's five levels.

01:18:29.480 At first, what it is, is bricks all over the place to where it completely shattered it.

01:18:32.700 Just like you shatter the mind of someone young and it's disintegrated.

01:18:36.000 They have a disintegrated psyche.

01:18:37.040 And then you build it back in structured form to your own whim to serve a purpose, right?

01:18:41.580 So, you know, it goes, so the gifted and talented education actually goes in hand

01:18:45.000 in hand with Dabrowski's positive disintegration and five phase of consciousness

01:18:49.480 to where they are taking them through a specific protocol and development,

01:18:55.900 specific curriculum to build them a certain way.

01:18:59.300 And again, you know, with the Gowen's curriculum of all these different occult initiations

01:19:04.620 and mysticism and all this, wrote in a scientific nomenclature,

01:19:08.260 it's integrating this into the curriculum and kind of building people up.

01:19:11.480 It's occult pathworking.

01:19:12.740 It's literally what this is.

01:19:14.340 So it's just taking people through this.

01:19:15.800 It's just like, you know, you have Babylonian blasphemy, 0.98

01:19:17.620 you have Egyptian mystery, you have these school mystery schools, right?

01:19:20.620 It's kind of like teaching the same thing just in modern day time.

01:19:24.440 So you have that aspect.

01:19:25.680 But see, along with this is you have a lot of people to where, like,

01:19:29.900 in gifted and talented, it's not just about STEM.

01:19:32.540 It's not just about mathematics and sciences and technology, right, engineering.

01:19:36.260 You also have people that are really valued for the arts, right,

01:19:39.840 in this right brain material.

01:19:41.520 And this right brain isn't just also conducive to PSI and phenomena.

01:19:45.200 The right brain is very conducive to brainwashing.

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01:20:16.460 A lot of these people, that's what's not talked about publicly,

01:20:22.820 is through this GATE process, it's not just that they were going through PSI testing

01:20:28.120 and that sort of thing.

01:20:29.520 Some of these people were being funneled off and turned into full-blown Manchurian candidates.

01:20:33.380 This goes hand-in-hand with programs such as, in contemporary times,

01:20:37.540 you at DARPA had this program called ENGAGE, E-N-G-A-G-E.

01:20:41.500 So, and what that was, was K-12, they were especially integrating technology into the classroom.

01:20:48.460 You had advanced learning solutions, game-based learning,

01:20:50.840 things to really get children involved and to be able to really learn

01:20:54.820 in a way that they are really invested in it, right?

01:20:58.100 You're really passionate about it.

01:20:59.320 So, video games is one of them.

01:21:00.880 So, you have companies like Cubic.

01:21:02.820 Cubic has a lot of game-based learning solutions.

01:21:05.180 They're using a lot of these space camps, things like this.

01:21:07.260 Again, touching back to Andrea Proharic, you know,

01:21:09.640 that started the Space Kids and all this.

01:21:11.800 So, anyways, Cubic, right, was involved with GATE

01:21:14.740 and involved with a lot of this technology and game-based learning.

01:21:18.060 At the same time, Cubic, after 9-11, also acquired Abraxas.

01:21:24.640 Abraxas is, I know, right?

01:21:28.340 Yeah, it's just like...

01:21:30.220 The person that owns Abraxas, his name was literally Richard Helms.

01:21:36.440 I mean, you know, go back to MKUltra, right?

01:21:38.820 His name was Richard Helms as well.

01:21:40.440 So, anyways, this guy is an old spy master.

01:21:43.200 You have all these OGs from the clandestine services and all that in Abraxas.

01:21:46.260 And Abraxas, what they were responsible for, among other things,

01:21:49.940 was they would form the covers for NOCs.

01:21:53.020 For non-official covers, they would craft those.

01:21:54.840 They'd get those top-secret programs where they were crafting the NOC covers.

01:21:59.400 So, what they did was the same company that's involved with the selection through GATE

01:22:03.720 and then the training of them in game-based solutions involving these military platforms,

01:22:08.260 just like some of these first-person shooters and stuff.

01:22:10.260 Again, that actually goes back to DARPA, some of these DARPA-developed platforms,

01:22:14.200 which people don't know about this.

01:22:15.480 Like, this all goes back to...

01:22:16.480 So, essentially, the same company, Cubic, that was made through DARPA's Engage

01:22:21.640 to use their technology training kids in GATE and STEM

01:22:24.720 and the kids that were selected and funneled off to this,

01:22:27.060 they also, at the same time, were funneling and routing these people

01:22:30.840 and grooming them to be unwitting, non-official covers.

01:22:34.600 So, they would kind of, like, set them on a pipeline and path,

01:22:37.040 give them opportunities, specifically intelligent, poor people 0.87

01:22:40.020 that don't have otherwise opportunities

01:22:41.380 and are more apt to take this opportunity right,

01:22:43.980 especially if they have parents that could get out of the way

01:22:45.900 or parents that would comply or parents that they could control some way.

01:22:49.460 So, the same company that was involved with training these kids

01:22:52.440 and using their technology also was crafting their cover,

01:22:55.800 unbeknownst to the kids.

01:22:57.220 So, it's just all a program, not just to test people for PSI,

01:23:01.120 but to brainwash people and to place them.

01:23:03.620 It's all about placement.

01:23:04.840 And, again, we need that for national defense on a certain level,

01:23:08.180 but it just goes so far beyond that

01:23:10.240 because they're using torturous methods to groom people. 0.71

01:23:12.900 And then, also, if you get to the top of this,

01:23:14.640 it's corrupt people that are misusing assets

01:23:16.440 and just it's the whole corrupt agenda of globalists.

01:23:19.400 It's not for the U.S. 0.85

01:23:20.280 It's not for humanity.

01:23:21.780 It's for some corrupt, you know, bloodthirsty, power-hungry,

01:23:25.700 you know, warmongers.

01:23:26.780 So, anyways.

01:23:28.460 Well, speaking of really cool stuff,

01:23:30.780 I was doing a little bit of research here

01:23:33.300 because I'm wondering, like, you know,

01:23:35.160 you hear certain elements in regards to what they're looking for,

01:23:41.820 what the perfect candidate is for this sort of a thing.

01:23:45.760 And genetics comes up, obviously, quite a bit.

01:23:49.000 But one of them that is lesser known

01:23:51.040 that popped up on my radar not long ago

01:23:54.000 was this idea of heterochromia.

01:23:56.400 And as I'm doing research here,

01:23:57.720 I just want to shout out Emma

01:23:59.120 because if you just do a little bit,

01:24:02.320 like, I'm trying to look for it

01:24:03.300 and it's hard for me to find anything,

01:24:04.420 and I go, well, what about Grok?

01:24:05.460 Like, what is Grok, the all-knowing, you know,

01:24:08.120 intellect entity Grok,

01:24:10.280 what does Grok have to say about it?

01:24:12.000 And all the sources that are getting pulled

01:24:14.860 are from Emma's sub-stack,

01:24:16.560 which is, I just think that's really cool

01:24:18.280 because it just goes to show

01:24:19.320 the impact of the work that you guys are doing.

01:24:22.340 It is making a difference.

01:24:24.720 And so, you know, you start to look into this

01:24:28.140 and it talks about Mengele,

01:24:29.300 which I know that there was, you know,

01:24:31.440 this idea that Joseph Mengele,

01:24:32.820 who's known as, what was his name?

01:24:35.900 He was like, Angel of Death, yeah,

01:24:38.160 is obsessed with a number of things.

01:24:40.920 Twins comes up quite a bit,

01:24:42.900 but also heterochromia comes up a little bit.

01:24:45.240 And I'm wondering,

01:24:46.360 is that something in your research

01:24:48.600 that has come up, this heterochromia aspect?

01:24:51.920 And if so, what seems to be the implication?

01:24:54.660 Why?

01:24:55.940 Yeah, so central heterochromia specifically,

01:24:58.640 there's other aspects too,

01:24:59.680 but central heterochromia is super common

01:25:01.480 with subjects in this that have been through this.

01:25:03.660 And that specifically seems to relate

01:25:05.860 to the theta programming, theta programming,

01:25:08.000 and the PSI aspect.

01:25:09.780 As far as exactly why and what the connection is,

01:25:13.600 I, you know, that's not my field

01:25:15.280 and I don't have the full information on that.

01:25:17.840 All I can say is that there is absolutely

01:25:19.360 a strong correlation with PSI phenomena,

01:25:22.700 with theta programming,

01:25:24.180 and central heterochromia specifically.

01:25:26.560 I can say that definitively.

01:25:28.260 Yeah, as far as getting into why and stuff like that,

01:25:30.440 I would be wildly speculating.

01:25:32.100 That's, it's strange.

01:25:33.180 I know there's not much to do there,

01:25:34.720 but the idea that some sort of a PSI related,

01:25:37.740 you know, anything would manifest

01:25:40.380 as a partial eye color.

01:25:43.100 It's just strange.

01:25:44.080 Like you're just talking about anatomy and biology.

01:25:45.900 It's the chemical.

01:25:48.280 It's going to be the chemical makeup.

01:25:50.460 Is there another correlation

01:25:51.760 where there's an eye color,

01:25:53.040 but that does that go hand in hand

01:25:54.420 with another genetic trait

01:25:55.540 that's related to that we don't know?

01:25:57.360 I mean, there,

01:25:57.820 there could be something else there as well.

01:25:59.980 Not just the eye color.

01:26:01.180 That could just be a tell.

01:26:02.440 I really don't know.

01:26:03.700 Yeah.

01:26:04.480 I would imagine also that Mengele's interest

01:26:06.300 in the whole twins thing

01:26:07.160 would have been the psychic connection, right?

01:26:09.760 Because that's, that seems to be,

01:26:11.240 it's very common that you'll have twins

01:26:13.220 and they share some sort of a,

01:26:15.300 not a hive mind, right?

01:26:16.360 But like, you know, there, there, there's a.

01:26:19.000 Quantum entanglement.

01:26:20.260 But also here's another aspect is if you have twins,

01:26:22.580 you have a control for,

01:26:23.960 if you're doing experiments on one,

01:26:25.240 you have a control

01:26:26.020 and then you have, right, the experiment.

01:26:28.320 So that would be really good,

01:26:29.540 especially when you're looking at like threshold testing

01:26:31.540 and things like that.

01:26:32.700 So, because, you know, in any experiment,

01:26:34.300 if you really want to know what you do,

01:26:35.420 you can do anything to anybody,

01:26:36.500 but how do you gauge that results

01:26:37.920 compared to how they were going to develop

01:26:39.620 if you didn't do anything?

01:26:40.760 If you have a twin and you take one,

01:26:42.240 but then you do experiment with the other,

01:26:43.620 you have a control in an experiment

01:26:45.320 and then you have, you know,

01:26:46.640 the one you have.

01:26:47.100 Man, that's very smart, but very dark.

01:26:50.500 Super dark.

01:26:51.760 So, so these elements that,

01:26:53.340 that show themselves

01:26:54.220 and I have somewhere where I want to go

01:26:56.300 with this ultimately,

01:26:57.040 but these elements that show themselves

01:26:59.180 in the Gates program,

01:27:00.760 you know, these, these sort of tests,

01:27:02.820 maybe we can talk about those a little bit

01:27:04.700 and what it seems that the purpose of them may be.

01:27:08.000 Certainly the, the frequency in the headphones,

01:27:10.580 because I remember that,

01:27:11.640 but I, but I, I don't know

01:27:13.500 if I was subjected to the same thing

01:27:14.700 or if that was just a run-of-the-mill hearing test.

01:27:16.240 I'm sure there are run-of-the-mill hearing tests.

01:27:19.460 I don't know why you would give them to the children,

01:27:21.460 but I remember sort of the monotone voice going like,

01:27:24.180 you know, maybe it was like,

01:27:25.480 click a button if you could hear this,

01:27:26.700 hit the button if you could hear the tone type of deal.

01:27:28.260 And like, yeah,

01:27:29.260 I was subjected to the tones and whatever.

01:27:31.920 But as that applies to the Gates program,

01:27:34.020 what would the significance would that be?

01:27:35.880 And then like, also this thing, this pink drink,

01:27:38.500 because I know it's,

01:27:39.420 it's probably something that you deal with a lot, Gray,

01:27:41.620 but it's like for people

01:27:43.600 who are just getting this on their radar,

01:27:46.040 those are relatable, right?

01:27:48.040 Because it seems to be in the public school system,

01:27:49.760 we were subjected to this to some degree.

01:27:51.480 And that relatability creates a lot of fascination

01:27:54.760 around the phenomenon and a lot of questions.

01:27:57.220 What was this pink drink that people were choking down? 0.76

01:28:00.740 What might've been the purpose of that?

01:28:02.160 This, this tone that they're subjected to

01:28:05.900 and what other kind of, you know,

01:28:07.640 seemingly innocuous things were people subjected to

01:28:11.060 that ended up being part of a pattern

01:28:13.080 for the Gates program?

01:28:14.880 Right.

01:28:15.360 So, you know, also the thing that goes hand in hand

01:28:17.280 with this, a lot of times when people were brought

01:28:18.820 to like a, you know, very dim room

01:28:21.220 and went through this,

01:28:22.360 there'd be someone from outside the school.

01:28:23.880 A lot of times that was coming in

01:28:24.940 to administer these tests, you know?

01:28:27.500 So what was the pink drink?

01:28:28.840 Was there a temporary memory loss agent?

01:28:31.240 Was there something else kind of like

01:28:32.740 you have an MRI with contrast

01:28:34.280 and you'll take something so it can show up

01:28:36.140 and then they're, you know,

01:28:36.840 also have a scanning device in the room, right?

01:28:39.560 When it gets to the hearing element,

01:28:41.560 is it like seeing, you know,

01:28:43.040 what frequency range someone can hear in

01:28:44.940 and then also knowing that no matter what,

01:28:46.460 the brain can still interpret it

01:28:47.600 even if they don't audibly, consciously interpret it.

01:28:50.880 You know, it's kind of, I think,

01:28:52.320 testing thresholds and also testing susceptibility.

01:28:55.420 You know, is there something else in there?

01:28:56.980 Was there a sub audible suggestion

01:28:59.680 that was put in there

01:29:01.020 and then if kids say certain things,

01:29:03.220 you know, even the person administering the test

01:29:05.180 wouldn't have to know all the details of it.

01:29:08.260 They say, hey, if this comes up,

01:29:09.680 then this person, you know, passes

01:29:11.300 or this person writes this, right?

01:29:12.900 So there could be, you know,

01:29:14.560 sub audible suggestions.

01:29:15.960 They could be testing the thresholds of,

01:29:18.060 you know, the frequency, you know,

01:29:19.760 of, you know, what they can hear,

01:29:21.260 the threshold, if they're able to hear it or not,

01:29:22.920 and just deeming if they're suitable, right?

01:29:25.600 Just deeming how suggestible they are,

01:29:27.780 deeming, you know, the bandwidth of the frequency

01:29:30.780 that they can hear in and things like this.

01:29:33.540 Either way, I mean, 100%,

01:29:35.040 I don't know all the exact details of it.

01:29:37.820 What I do know is that, you know,

01:29:39.660 that was kind of the vetting screening process

01:29:41.600 and that some people were then selected

01:29:43.440 and funneled further into sub projects

01:29:46.260 or other issues, you know?

01:29:48.000 It also could be pretense to say,

01:29:49.340 oh, hey, you have a hearing problem.

01:29:50.560 Oh, you have this, oh, we need to put you

01:29:53.040 to this vocational therapy.

01:29:54.240 We need to do this and it'd be a pretense

01:29:56.000 for, you know, funneling you to another class

01:29:58.200 or another aspect, you know?

01:29:59.920 It kind of opens the door to a few things, yeah.

01:30:02.980 I don't have all the specific details

01:30:05.000 on exactly what it was,

01:30:06.320 but I do know that it was a step

01:30:07.620 in the screening and vetting process.

01:30:09.520 And then, you know, certain children were selected

01:30:11.300 to get routed in other places

01:30:13.340 from there deeper into the actual program.

01:30:17.500 One of the other things that comes up quite a bit,

01:30:19.740 and I heard somebody talking about this,

01:30:22.800 what they thought the point of the Gates program was.

01:30:27.500 And, you know, it does seem that

01:30:29.860 you're looking for a level of eligibility.

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01:31:00.140 Right, but the other thing is

01:31:07.480 they connected it to this idea of the alien grace.

01:31:10.740 And I know we just talked about this,

01:31:11.980 you know, what the phenomenon will present itself as,

01:31:14.200 which you're more likely to believe,

01:31:16.860 or what you've been sort of programmed.

01:31:18.940 Doesn't have to be directly.

01:31:20.160 It could just be culturally, right?

01:31:21.400 The age bracket that you broke it down into,

01:31:23.460 I think, is very telling.

01:31:24.440 Older people kind of going towards this, 1.00

01:31:27.620 like, Egyptian aspect.

01:31:29.140 Younger people going towards this.

01:31:31.040 And there's a plethora of things.

01:31:32.260 You have ascended masters and spirit guides.

01:31:36.800 It's funny, too.

01:31:37.740 You could even locate the changeover in the zeitgeist

01:31:42.000 from Puharich bringing in Geller

01:31:44.740 to manifest the UFO Roswell movement.

01:31:48.660 And then from there,

01:31:50.020 you have that generation on pretty much 0.98

01:31:52.260 talking about aliens.

01:31:54.280 But before it is the...

01:31:56.000 The Ineat.

01:31:56.720 The Ineat.

01:31:57.440 Yeah.

01:31:57.800 It's like,

01:31:58.560 it's like old people get this.

01:31:59.980 Right there's your turning point.

01:32:01.780 Yeah.

01:32:02.260 You know, that's a...

01:32:03.420 Shout out, Charlie Kirk.

01:32:04.940 Right there's your turning point

01:32:06.540 in this weird zeitgeist

01:32:07.640 of what they're going to now manifest

01:32:09.340 or, you know, imagine.

01:32:12.060 Well, this kid that's listening to this story,

01:32:16.420 as this woman is explaining,

01:32:18.540 well, these are the elements.

01:32:19.480 And he goes,

01:32:19.800 oh, my God, I've had that happen.

01:32:21.020 And then she goes,

01:32:21.780 this is, you know, what I think it is.

01:32:23.280 And he's like, wait a second.

01:32:25.140 I've always had an obsession with aliens,

01:32:27.880 with UFOs.

01:32:29.440 And I've experienced abductions, right?

01:32:33.120 Sleep paralysis.

01:32:33.980 And that is, you know,

01:32:35.360 on this show we talk about this.

01:32:36.580 The sleep paralysis phenomenon is very strange.

01:32:39.400 Um, these days I'm much more looking

01:32:41.700 to just the whole thing

01:32:43.240 is calling it a phenomenon

01:32:44.140 because the overlap

01:32:45.100 between a sleep paralysis experience,

01:32:47.660 an alien abduction experience,

01:32:49.560 old hag, you name it. 1.00

01:32:51.540 The only thing that changes,

01:32:52.660 all the elements are the same.

01:32:54.560 There's a paralysis aspect.

01:32:56.180 There's a unbelievable level of fear.

01:32:58.600 There seems to be an accompanying

01:32:59.680 of maybe a vibration or a frequency

01:33:01.980 or an electrocuting kind of a feeling

01:33:03.820 that keeps you paralyzed.

01:33:05.620 Um, but the thing that changes

01:33:07.920 is just like what's doing it to you,

01:33:10.260 which is odd.

01:33:11.820 You know, it just seems to be morphing.

01:33:13.540 It goes from like incubus demon

01:33:15.400 to I've heard stories of like Fred Flintstone.

01:33:18.340 All kinds of crap.

01:33:19.100 Whatever you're, yeah,

01:33:19.780 especially for children.

01:33:20.660 It's like, what are you going to believe it?

01:33:22.320 This Fred Flintstone,

01:33:23.760 Disney characters, Disney characters.

01:33:25.980 Yeah.

01:33:26.160 And what I meant to also with the Egyptian,

01:33:28.620 a lot of the Egyptian rights,

01:33:29.680 also a lot of older people

01:33:30.520 is very druidic

01:33:31.480 and they have a lot of like earth based spirits

01:33:33.420 and stuff like that.

01:33:34.240 That's a huge thing.

01:33:34.880 I couldn't find the word in my head, druidic.

01:33:37.920 Druidic.

01:33:38.520 Yeah, it's like nature familiars,

01:33:40.720 nature spirits, right?

01:33:42.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:33:42.860 Yes.

01:33:43.120 And that makes a lot of sense too

01:33:44.200 if you think about like the hippie movement

01:33:45.620 and everything, right?

01:33:46.700 You're really like getting in touch with the earth.

01:33:48.640 It is that whole idea of like tree hugging hippie

01:33:51.580 was a cultural phenomenon

01:33:52.780 that would have certainly flavored

01:33:54.560 people's opinions of the spiritual,

01:33:56.640 if that's what you want to call it,

01:33:58.340 for an entire generation.

01:34:00.160 With the timeline,

01:34:01.000 what you'll definitely see is

01:34:02.420 where it seems to trend

01:34:04.840 in the data of what they're experiencing,

01:34:06.380 there's a lot of external reinforcement for sure.

01:34:08.700 There's definitely a relation there.

01:34:09.860 So where do you fall on it, Gray?

01:34:11.380 Because it's like,

01:34:11.840 I understand like the idea of like tulpas 0.99

01:34:13.520 and everything

01:34:13.940 and you can give sort of attention to a thing

01:34:16.700 and maybe the individual human's ability

01:34:18.940 to manifest a thing.

01:34:20.100 And I know you're saying that it doesn't matter.

01:34:22.640 I agree with that.

01:34:23.300 It doesn't really matter

01:34:24.420 because the point is it's still happening to you.

01:34:26.660 But if you had to put your money

01:34:29.800 on one side or the other,

01:34:31.040 is this an external intelligent force

01:34:33.500 or is this something that is purely concocted

01:34:36.320 by the human psyche

01:34:37.180 as a manifestation of our own, you know,

01:34:40.140 desire for control?

01:34:41.440 Who knows?

01:34:41.940 Anything like that.

01:34:43.000 Where, if you had to pick a side.

01:34:45.640 Well, what's the nature,

01:34:46.600 what's the nature of existence?

01:34:48.440 You know, the Grigore, 1.00

01:34:49.460 what everybody believes in,

01:34:50.840 what is that?

01:34:51.980 I mean, here's in my personal belief

01:34:54.020 and my personal thing is,

01:34:55.180 is that the people that run the world, right?

01:34:58.200 And it, well, here's one thing.

01:34:59.200 Let me touch on this is

01:35:00.020 when you get in deep hypnosis,

01:35:02.100 there's positive hallucinations

01:35:03.420 and negative hallucinations.

01:35:04.780 And again, everything's Ericksonian

01:35:06.280 to where there's a script

01:35:07.120 that goes with your psyche.

01:35:08.240 That's the way it works.

01:35:09.200 And this is people hypnotizing people

01:35:11.420 and stuff like this.

01:35:12.300 So already like you have that human element of it.

01:35:14.700 Now, what do I believe?

01:35:15.920 I believe that going back to Babylonian blasphemy, 1.00

01:35:19.680 to Egyptian mystery, to all this,

01:35:21.580 the people that run the world

01:35:23.100 and their family dynasties

01:35:24.480 and the priest class,

01:35:25.600 the ruling class and the priest class,

01:35:27.320 I believe that they commune,

01:35:29.160 often using conduits

01:35:30.400 because it's dangerous

01:35:31.180 and can essentially drive someone crazy

01:35:33.040 and it also can go bad,

01:35:34.480 but also because you need

01:35:35.620 to have certain purity

01:35:36.640 or these things that you get in touch with

01:35:38.600 will just, you know, eat you alive.

01:35:41.000 But I believe that these things

01:35:42.240 have been communing

01:35:43.120 through communication protocols

01:35:44.460 with entities,

01:35:45.980 with consciousnesses out there.

01:35:47.480 That's usual non-physical presenting,

01:35:49.700 but that there is consciousness out there.

01:35:51.640 And I think this consciousness

01:35:52.780 is so intelligent

01:35:54.300 that it uses whatever works against us.

01:35:58.200 Okay?

01:35:58.380 A lot of ways that we've learned

01:35:59.480 to do to each other

01:36:00.580 because what better way

01:36:01.660 to control someone

01:36:02.500 than a way that's agreeable to them?

01:36:04.420 Piggyback on their momentum 0.99

01:36:06.180 where they're already going.

01:36:07.400 Piggyback on their desires. 0.99

01:36:08.820 Piggyback on their understanding 1.00

01:36:10.200 instead of start from scratch, right?

01:36:12.240 You work with what's already proven to work

01:36:14.480 and then piggyback on that.

01:36:15.760 So I believe that there is consciousnesses

01:36:17.480 out there that are so intelligent

01:36:20.480 that are completely controlling

01:36:22.820 our ruling and priest class

01:36:24.280 and using them as playthings

01:36:25.500 and also using them as proxies

01:36:26.760 to thus in turn control the people.

01:36:29.040 So yes, I believe that there are

01:36:30.780 some intelligences out there

01:36:33.340 that manifest in whatever way suits them,

01:36:37.920 whatever way suits the cause,

01:36:39.860 and they can be a wide grade.

01:36:41.060 They're the great deceivers, okay?

01:36:43.100 And that, you know,

01:36:44.360 they're just doing whatever they can

01:36:45.880 to get their way, you know,

01:36:47.280 to play with the people

01:36:48.400 and the people are nothing to them.

01:36:49.900 We are ants.

01:36:51.120 That's what I believe.

01:36:52.080 And I believe that, you know,

01:36:53.440 largely these generational elements

01:36:56.260 of dynasties of a ruling and priest class

01:36:58.180 have continuously engaged with them

01:37:00.140 and then passed down

01:37:00.840 these parasitic infestations

01:37:02.300 and then brought their children

01:37:03.800 through initiations

01:37:04.700 to infect themselves energetically

01:37:06.400 with these viruses

01:37:07.340 and then, you know,

01:37:08.820 take these things into them

01:37:10.280 and agree and continue the cycle.

01:37:12.700 So yeah, I believe that

01:37:14.040 there are specific bloodlines

01:37:15.760 and people that are continuously

01:37:18.320 infested with these parasites

01:37:20.780 that are infected

01:37:21.860 with this energetic virus

01:37:23.620 and that even have over time

01:37:26.440 developed in certain ways

01:37:28.260 such as the reptilian brain

01:37:29.600 more than other people

01:37:30.820 who have developed in other ways, right?

01:37:32.900 And that these people are used

01:37:34.080 as proxies to control the people

01:37:36.020 from the top down.

01:37:37.520 So yeah, I believe that there is

01:37:38.640 intelligence and entities out there

01:37:40.540 that are using just a bag of tricks

01:37:42.880 and deceiving the people

01:37:44.060 and using whatever way,

01:37:45.760 shape and form to present

01:37:46.980 that makes sense

01:37:48.760 and is most effective

01:37:49.800 and efficient for that time period.

01:37:52.320 I wonder then where you put us

01:37:55.080 in that equation

01:37:55.680 because you said they look at us

01:37:57.340 like ants and things like that,

01:37:58.700 but there's also this parasitic relationship

01:38:01.160 where they need us,

01:38:03.040 they need something from us.

01:38:04.240 We talk often on this show

01:38:05.580 to a friend of the show,

01:38:07.360 Dr. Jerry Marzinski,

01:38:08.560 who's a clinical psychologist

01:38:09.940 and he dealt specifically

01:38:12.380 with schizophrenia.

01:38:13.420 He was in the field

01:38:13.800 for like 35 years

01:38:15.400 and everybody drink,

01:38:16.960 everybody drink.

01:38:17.600 We mentioned him quite a bit

01:38:18.540 and one of the things

01:38:20.120 that he said,

01:38:20.660 a story that he shared

01:38:21.700 was he started talking

01:38:23.680 to patients in a prison setting

01:38:24.900 where they allowed him to

01:38:25.820 because in a medical industry,

01:38:26.880 they're not really,

01:38:27.640 you know,

01:38:27.780 like a medical setting.

01:38:28.560 They're like,

01:38:28.800 don't give in to the delusions.

01:38:30.100 You're going to feed into it

01:38:31.160 and you're going to make this.

01:38:32.260 So, but in the prison system,

01:38:33.560 they don't care.

01:38:33.940 So, he starts to speculate

01:38:36.300 on whether or not

01:38:37.200 these things are actually external

01:38:38.600 to the individual

01:38:39.900 that they're not just auditory

01:38:41.240 and visual hallucinations

01:38:42.640 and decides to start

01:38:44.240 recommending to the patients,

01:38:46.240 hey, talk to them,

01:38:49.540 like deal with them

01:38:50.200 like they're external to you.

01:38:51.540 And then he would say things like,

01:38:52.960 can I talk to the voices

01:38:54.180 when talking to a patient?

01:38:56.000 And for a long while,

01:38:57.740 they were really,

01:38:59.300 you know,

01:38:59.600 they would reject that

01:39:00.440 and he would say things like,

01:39:01.580 well, what do the voices

01:39:02.200 think about me?

01:39:02.960 And they would go,

01:39:03.440 they're not happy

01:39:04.200 with the idea

01:39:05.160 that you're addressing them that way.

01:39:07.300 Eventually, one day,

01:39:08.020 there's like a bit of a breakthrough

01:39:08.960 and one of the patients

01:39:10.560 tells him that the voices

01:39:11.960 are telling Dr. Marzinski

01:39:13.520 that he has no right

01:39:15.300 to interfere

01:39:16.480 with their way of life.

01:39:18.080 Now, that's interesting.

01:39:18.880 We'll put that to the side

01:39:19.740 for a second.

01:39:20.660 There's another individual

01:39:21.460 who I communicated with

01:39:22.680 who wrote into me,

01:39:24.180 claimed to have

01:39:25.080 a symbiotic

01:39:25.900 or parasitic relationship

01:39:27.080 with an entity.

01:39:28.280 There was a sort of

01:39:29.000 a Faustian bargain,

01:39:30.100 I guess you could say,

01:39:30.860 where this thing gave to him

01:39:33.040 success with women 0.71

01:39:34.360 and a couple of other things,

01:39:35.920 information being one of them.

01:39:37.960 And what it got in return

01:39:40.260 was a sort of a loose deal.

01:39:42.780 It would be able to feed off

01:39:44.220 of his energy

01:39:44.960 and also experiencing him.

01:39:48.080 And so he was allowed

01:39:49.840 to ask it questions.

01:39:50.880 And, you know,

01:39:51.120 this is just a story.

01:39:52.380 Who knows what it's true?

01:39:53.460 It might have been true 0.99

01:39:53.940 to the individual,

01:39:54.860 but does that mean

01:39:55.600 that it's actually

01:39:56.100 how things went down?

01:39:57.120 Either way,

01:39:57.640 one of the things

01:39:58.980 that I found interesting

01:39:59.820 was this entity told him

01:40:02.600 that its existence

01:40:05.040 was parasitic

01:40:06.220 and that eventually

01:40:08.820 they came to go separate ways.

01:40:10.920 He asked it to leave.

01:40:12.420 It was sad about the situation,

01:40:15.380 but was willing to leave

01:40:16.660 and basically expressed to him

01:40:18.480 that without a host,

01:40:19.980 it would eventually cease

01:40:21.260 to exist altogether.

01:40:23.660 And so let's just suspend disbelief

01:40:26.740 for a second here and go,

01:40:27.960 OK, parasites comes up constantly. 0.88

01:40:30.760 Parasitic relationship.

01:40:31.820 They seem to feed off of us.

01:40:33.000 I'm willing to accept that idea.

01:40:34.260 Loosh seems to be a theme 0.89

01:40:35.160 that pops up quite a bit.

01:40:36.500 I've experienced it myself.

01:40:38.320 I'll put my chips there.

01:40:41.060 These things seem to need us

01:40:42.760 in some way, shape or form.

01:40:45.220 And yeah, they do manipulate

01:40:48.860 world events.

01:40:50.440 They co-opt our leaders

01:40:51.840 and our priest class,

01:40:52.820 like you've said.

01:40:53.460 Um, and they're nefarious

01:40:56.020 and they're horrifying.

01:40:57.340 They don't like to be called parasites.

01:40:59.060 They don't like to be called parasites.

01:41:00.520 That seems to be true.

01:41:01.880 And they, uh, uh,

01:41:04.300 they seem like they might not be

01:41:08.180 doing so well

01:41:09.500 if we don't give them

01:41:10.440 what they want,

01:41:11.320 what they want.

01:41:12.240 What do they want from us?

01:41:13.580 What are we?

01:41:15.000 Is what I'm getting at.

01:41:16.680 We seem to be small

01:41:18.100 in comparison to them,

01:41:19.280 but they're going through

01:41:20.860 unbelievable lengths

01:41:22.460 to do this to us

01:41:23.660 and have done so

01:41:24.560 for quite a long time.

01:41:26.620 It's a great question.

01:41:27.360 What, what are we?

01:41:28.380 If we're this like

01:41:29.200 biomechanical machine

01:41:31.580 that can be hacked

01:41:32.620 in such a deep

01:41:33.460 and intrinsic way,

01:41:34.260 like just the techniques

01:41:35.340 of the last hour and a half

01:41:36.420 that you've been explaining

01:41:37.120 to us,

01:41:37.660 some of the stuff

01:41:38.900 I'm going to have

01:41:40.360 to rewatch the episode

01:41:41.080 because it just goes,

01:41:42.120 it goes over my head

01:41:42.860 because it's crazy.

01:41:44.340 But it's a lot of work.

01:41:45.220 That's clear.

01:41:45.780 Yeah, it's a ton of work

01:41:46.800 to suck on us. 0.99

01:41:48.700 What the hell are we?

01:41:49.900 Well, I mean,

01:41:50.700 we are, you know,

01:41:52.040 we are hosts.

01:41:52.860 We are vehicles

01:41:53.820 that they can use

01:41:55.120 to interface

01:41:56.180 and experience

01:41:57.180 through different senses

01:41:58.420 that they don't

01:41:59.120 as readily have

01:42:00.020 as disembodied spirits,

01:42:01.940 as disembodied

01:42:02.980 parasitic entities, right?

01:42:04.300 They are living

01:42:05.240 vicariously through us, right?

01:42:06.740 I mean,

01:42:07.120 I mean,

01:42:07.880 what do you want?

01:42:09.000 We are different from them, right?

01:42:10.820 They already have

01:42:11.460 their existence.

01:42:12.340 They're using us

01:42:13.280 as a vehicle,

01:42:14.040 as a meat suit,

01:42:15.080 and they can interface

01:42:15.960 reality with reality

01:42:17.400 in a different way

01:42:18.320 and experience things

01:42:19.520 because what is existence

01:42:21.220 other than a set

01:42:21.980 of experiences?

01:42:23.260 I mean,

01:42:23.580 I don't know.

01:42:24.240 I mean,

01:42:24.380 that's the way

01:42:25.480 I've always seen it.

01:42:26.600 You know,

01:42:26.840 they just,

01:42:27.600 what other point

01:42:28.600 is there to do anything?

01:42:29.680 You want to experience it.

01:42:31.160 You want to live it.

01:42:32.140 You know,

01:42:32.360 just like if we do something,

01:42:33.900 you know,

01:42:34.100 you do different things,

01:42:35.240 you know,

01:42:35.460 whether you hop in a car

01:42:36.760 and you get to experience

01:42:37.660 going fast

01:42:38.380 and around town faster

01:42:40.000 or, you know,

01:42:40.740 or whatever,

01:42:41.340 but, you know,

01:42:41.920 you get to hop

01:42:42.680 in a human body

01:42:43.340 and you get to taste,

01:42:44.560 you know,

01:42:44.800 you get to touch,

01:42:45.580 you get to smell,

01:42:46.620 you get to live

01:42:47.980 and have that experience.

01:42:49.520 Maybe you can even

01:42:50.140 experience sadness,

01:42:51.420 maybe, you know,

01:42:52.140 and you can't usually

01:42:52.980 experience that

01:42:53.720 in their form.

01:42:54.340 Who knows?

01:42:55.040 But I think it's just a,

01:42:56.400 it's just a suit,

01:42:57.860 a vehicle to interface

01:42:59.780 and experience

01:43:01.400 differently from what they do.

01:43:03.380 Just flesh interfaces,

01:43:04.720 huh?

01:43:04.800 It's like,

01:43:05.280 it reminds me of that,

01:43:06.440 that scene in The Matrix

01:43:07.660 where the bold guy,

01:43:09.800 I forget,

01:43:10.000 Cypher,

01:43:10.340 I think his name is,

01:43:11.000 he's like,

01:43:11.780 yeah,

01:43:11.960 I know the steak is fake,

01:43:13.580 but he's sold out

01:43:15.600 his people

01:43:16.760 just to go back

01:43:18.420 and experience

01:43:19.840 the fake steak.

01:43:20.940 Oh, that's interesting.

01:43:22.000 Cypher being,

01:43:23.340 yeah,

01:43:23.940 that is interesting.

01:43:25.820 That's one of the,

01:43:26.300 yeah,

01:43:26.460 that's one of the most profound,

01:43:27.500 I mean,

01:43:27.780 obviously that movie was stolen.

01:43:29.520 Yeah,

01:43:29.740 we stole it from Tom Althouse.

01:43:31.540 But I do really enjoy that

01:43:33.740 and how it pertains

01:43:34.580 to this idea of,

01:43:37.900 I don't know,

01:43:38.280 we're constantly being sold

01:43:39.360 that the psychedelic realm

01:43:41.940 is like,

01:43:42.280 wow,

01:43:42.400 when you go there,

01:43:43.040 it's this,

01:43:43.440 it's that,

01:43:43.760 it's this and that.

01:43:44.220 It's like,

01:43:44.340 well,

01:43:44.480 I don't know,

01:43:44.760 why are you trying so hard

01:43:45.720 to manipulate

01:43:47.360 and experience here?

01:43:49.840 Yeah,

01:43:50.280 it seems like they live

01:43:52.200 an existence

01:43:53.340 that is void of that.

01:43:54.600 And that's exactly it,

01:43:55.760 right?

01:43:55.940 So demonic possession

01:43:56.780 is you want to engage

01:43:58.300 in the sins of flesh,

01:43:59.340 you're doing it through us.

01:44:00.560 Somebody gets possessed

01:44:01.420 and what do they do?

01:44:02.740 It's self-destructive tendencies,

01:44:04.860 it's sex,

01:44:05.440 it's drug use,

01:44:06.140 it's violence,

01:44:06.800 it's all the extremes.

01:44:08.040 It's like they're waiting

01:44:09.800 desperately to break through

01:44:11.160 and when they break through,

01:44:12.260 they're like,

01:44:12.660 gotta interact with this realm,

01:44:14.200 gotta interact with this realm

01:44:15.280 in an insane way

01:44:16.400 because they're just hungry

01:44:17.780 for it constantly.

01:44:19.920 Gray,

01:44:20.340 I want to respect your time

01:44:21.260 and with that,

01:44:22.960 we're going to come

01:44:23.280 to the final question

01:44:23.920 of the show.

01:44:24.780 It feels like a heavy one

01:44:26.120 in this one,

01:44:26.760 given what you do.

01:44:27.840 I really wonder,

01:44:28.460 I've been thinking

01:44:28.960 since the beginning.

01:44:29.780 It's like,

01:44:30.060 what is he going to say,

01:44:30.880 dude?

01:44:30.900 What's he going to say?

01:44:31.760 Given what you do,

01:44:32.660 but at the end of the show,

01:44:33.660 we always ask our guests this

01:44:37.060 and we always get

01:44:38.080 interesting answers.

01:44:39.680 Do you like how I match

01:44:40.880 my shoes with my shirt?

01:44:41.700 Nobody likes how you match

01:44:42.840 your shoes with your shirt.

01:44:43.740 That's not the question?

01:44:44.180 I still can't believe that.

01:44:45.320 That's not the question, dude.

01:44:46.360 The question is,

01:44:47.420 are you having fun?

01:44:50.260 Am I having fun?

01:44:52.960 Yeah,

01:44:53.580 I have fun.

01:44:54.340 I mean,

01:44:55.140 it is what it is.

01:44:57.680 You know,

01:44:58.140 I was probably having more fun

01:45:00.900 in a lot of ways

01:45:01.740 when I was carefree

01:45:03.040 before I kind of woke up

01:45:05.320 to some things

01:45:06.480 that I don't feel right about,

01:45:08.380 right?

01:45:08.900 But I still,

01:45:09.820 I make time to have balance

01:45:11.040 in my life

01:45:11.600 and to have fun in life

01:45:13.160 and to enjoy things.

01:45:14.520 You have to.

01:45:15.860 You know,

01:45:16.360 as much as,

01:45:17.500 you know,

01:45:17.740 everything is right now

01:45:19.060 and these concerns

01:45:19.660 are right now,

01:45:20.680 I've learned to be in it

01:45:21.980 for the long haul.

01:45:22.900 It's a marathon,

01:45:23.820 not a sprint.

01:45:24.980 So I do make sure

01:45:26.080 that I enjoy things

01:45:27.460 and that I take some times,

01:45:28.800 you know,

01:45:29.740 to have fun

01:45:30.680 and to have enjoyment

01:45:31.820 because we need it.

01:45:33.400 Otherwise,

01:45:33.960 you know,

01:45:34.180 what is life, right?

01:45:35.300 So, yeah,

01:45:36.060 I have fun.

01:45:37.440 What the hell does a dude

01:45:38.140 like you do for fun?

01:45:39.220 Like,

01:45:39.360 what is your,

01:45:39.900 like,

01:45:40.020 do you have a hobby

01:45:40.700 that goes around town

01:45:41.840 real fast?

01:45:43.260 That's it.

01:45:43.760 You drive fast.

01:45:44.860 I used to be a lot more fun.

01:45:46.380 I'll be honest.

01:45:47.000 I used to be a lot more fun.

01:45:48.820 I used to be a lot more.

01:45:51.220 Well,

01:45:51.780 I don't know.

01:45:52.180 Maybe,

01:45:52.420 you're doing important work,

01:45:54.280 dude,

01:45:54.640 but don't forget that.

01:45:55.640 It's heavy work.

01:45:56.340 You and your wife,

01:45:57.040 man.

01:45:57.140 But don't forget to have fun.

01:45:58.680 Don't forget to have fun.

01:45:59.880 You got to have some sort of fun.

01:46:00.880 It's the simple things for me.

01:46:01.940 It's the simple things for me.

01:46:03.080 You know,

01:46:03.420 some nice food,

01:46:04.980 you know,

01:46:05.340 and then,

01:46:05.780 you know,

01:46:06.200 play with the dog,

01:46:07.460 you know,

01:46:07.840 and go out

01:46:08.560 and enjoy time

01:46:09.580 with the gal,

01:46:10.240 you know?

01:46:11.340 Yeah,

01:46:11.640 there you go.

01:46:12.220 I mean,

01:46:12.440 keep it simple.

01:46:13.160 I appreciate that.

01:46:14.360 Listen,

01:46:14.740 man,

01:46:14.900 I've lived a wild already.

01:46:17.900 So,

01:46:18.120 you know,

01:46:18.480 I've got a lot of that behind me.

01:46:19.600 You got it out of your system.

01:46:20.940 And I've already busted my body up a little bit.

01:46:23.460 So,

01:46:23.640 you know,

01:46:23.760 I try to keep it chill now.

01:46:25.660 All right.

01:46:26.160 Well,

01:46:27.140 listen,

01:46:27.460 man,

01:46:27.620 thank you for your time.

01:46:28.700 Before we get out of here,

01:46:29.840 where can everybody find your work?

01:46:31.120 Where can they go and support you?

01:46:32.780 This is important.

01:46:33.960 Yeah,

01:46:34.180 I mean,

01:46:34.480 you can find me at gray area monarch on X.

01:46:37.380 And,

01:46:37.680 you know,

01:46:38.000 obviously,

01:46:38.400 if you have any information to submit,

01:46:40.260 again,

01:46:40.500 that's organized safety dot org,

01:46:43.240 organized safety dot org.

01:46:44.740 I also highly suggest,

01:46:47.100 encourage people to go support my wife,

01:46:49.680 Emma Catherine on X.

01:46:51.380 She is the Emma Prenuer.

01:46:53.940 And you can find her on YouTube and rumble at the imagination podcast.

01:46:59.740 She's got over 200 individual survivors with full length testimony,

01:47:04.020 over 300 episodes,

01:47:06.360 including on a Tuesday,

01:47:07.760 kind of do movie nights where there's like throwbacks to,

01:47:10.480 you know,

01:47:11.300 old interviews and,

01:47:13.440 you know,

01:47:13.840 radio shows that are lesser known that really go in depth with like the

01:47:17.000 mind control behavior modification,

01:47:18.540 MK ultra stuff.

01:47:20.000 And also she's got an absolutely wonderful sub stack.

01:47:23.100 And on the sub stack,

01:47:24.040 you can also find a summaries of episodes.

01:47:26.780 So you can kind of like get through,

01:47:28.100 you have an episode outline.

01:47:29.740 You have the introduction excerpt because she's like famous for her 1.00

01:47:32.740 introductions of people that kind of go with things and then the overall

01:47:35.680 summary.

01:47:36.300 So in the sub stack,

01:47:37.120 it's absolutely wonderful.

01:47:39.260 And yeah,

01:47:39.820 you can find a lot of a lot of good things and,

01:47:42.580 you know,

01:47:42.800 and also the sub stack,

01:47:44.160 nothing will ever be behind a paywall with her.

01:47:46.420 But,

01:47:46.900 you know,

01:47:47.100 if you're in the,

01:47:47.620 so,

01:47:47.900 you know,

01:47:48.040 we ask that you subscribe and share and all that's free.

01:47:50.560 You know,

01:47:50.800 if you're in the position to,

01:47:51.900 and want to support the causes,

01:47:53.020 that's great.

01:47:53.740 You know,

01:47:54.200 you know,

01:47:55.140 we do what we can and,

01:47:56.700 you know,

01:47:56.800 go hard for the people.

01:47:58.400 So,

01:47:58.840 you know,

01:47:59.060 if y'all want to support the cause,

01:48:00.420 please do.

01:48:01.580 So,

01:48:02.040 yep.

01:48:03.020 And same thing,

01:48:03.940 you can go to organized safety.

01:48:04.960 If you want to help that cause,

01:48:06.240 just go to organized safety.org.

01:48:07.960 And along with the person interest,

01:48:09.740 location interest,

01:48:10.440 or general interest,

01:48:12.000 general report of interest,

01:48:13.900 you can also go to help organize safety.

01:48:15.720 So that's there as well.

01:48:16.680 So that's awesome guys.

01:48:17.940 If you like,

01:48:18.760 I mean,

01:48:19.120 we bring you regurgitated information,

01:48:20.760 but if you like people actually doing research,

01:48:23.560 doing research,

01:48:24.200 compiling real life,

01:48:25.820 real life information,

01:48:27.420 examples,

01:48:27.960 and talking to people,

01:48:29.340 helping consider not,

01:48:32.720 I mean,

01:48:33.000 we're paying for Netflix and shit like that.

01:48:35.220 Yeah,

01:48:35.760 I get it.

01:48:36.400 I get it.

01:48:36.920 Hey,

01:48:37.120 whatever.

01:48:37.340 Never get your kids trans. 1.00

01:48:38.580 Guys,

01:48:38.920 go to,

01:48:39.180 no,

01:48:40.220 don't do that.

01:48:41.540 That's what Netflix does,

01:48:42.540 man.

01:48:43.120 Go support good people.

01:48:44.820 Great.

01:48:45.340 Thank you for coming on,

01:48:46.160 man.

01:48:46.420 I'm glad it's been a while coming,

01:48:48.340 but I'm glad we did this.

01:48:49.820 And guys,

01:48:51.240 until next time,

01:48:52.420 don't forget to obey,

01:48:53.840 submit,

01:48:54.600 and comply.

01:48:55.200 We'll see you later.

01:48:55.660 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth

01:48:58.480 is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:49:02.180 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:49:06.040 You can persuade us.

01:49:08.340 That what they see with their eyes

01:49:10.300 is what there is to see.

01:49:13.000 Because they'll think in the face of an expedition

01:49:16.560 that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:49:19.960 And they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - October 22, 2025

The Free Range MK-Ultra Chickens w⧸ Grey Area Monarch

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