Nephilim Death Squad - December 06, 2025


The Influencer Industrial Complex w⧸ Austin Picard


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 59 minutes

Words per Minute

167.32301

Word Count

29,997

Sentence Count

1,633

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

52


Summary

On this episode of the Nedealim Death Squad, we are joined by Austin Picard, aka The Father of Disinformation, to talk about the dark side of the Influencer Industrial Complex. We discuss the role of the influencer industrial complex in shaping the minds of the public, and how they use their influence to manipulate and exert control over prominent individuals.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Let's do Blat, Top Lops of the Reductions.
00:00:30.000 Blat, Blat, Blat, Blat, Blat, Blat, Blat, Blat, Blat, Blat.
00:00:36.640 Oh, it says Hot Mike.
00:00:38.900 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:00:42.340 Happy, I hope your Thanksgiving was full of thanks.
00:00:46.260 I am David Lee Corbo.
00:00:47.460 I hope they heard that.
00:00:48.140 No, they heard that. It was a Hot Mike.
00:00:49.480 We was Blapin', and we was Guamin'.
00:00:51.920 Guamin' at you live from the Standard Coffee Shop in Lady Lake, Florida.
00:00:55.800 And Casino.
00:00:56.340 And Casino.
00:00:56.940 By the way, guys, you should be leaving five-star reviews if you can.
00:01:00.120 If you find it in your heart and you want to give back to Matt Heppner over at the Standard Coffee Shop,
00:01:05.400 that would be a great way to do it.
00:01:07.680 That's Top Lops of the Father of Disinformation.
00:01:09.320 I didn't tell people who you were.
00:01:10.440 You guys got to keep supporting the Coffee Shop because, to be honest,
00:01:14.700 the guy's kind of becoming a little bit of a superstar.
00:01:17.000 Dude!
00:01:17.580 It's worrying me.
00:01:18.300 100,000 views on YouTube.
00:01:22.200 Matt's killing it.
00:01:22.880 Pretty soon, I guess, this is just going to be Matt's show,
00:01:24.360 and then we'll just be the side act.
00:01:26.940 Boopity, blap, blap.
00:01:28.440 Anyway, patreon.com forward slash Nephilim Death Squad.
00:01:31.680 We aren't going there anymore because we're now not giving the pores anything.
00:01:36.360 Should we even be doing this?
00:01:37.460 Well, we should tell people where you want to support us in the future when you hear this come out on YouTube.
00:01:42.660 Yeah, over here, do that.
00:01:44.240 You can buy a shirt.
00:01:45.680 Buy a shirt.
00:01:46.680 Yeah, the shirts are cool.
00:01:47.740 Yeah.
00:01:48.220 Go support more of the Standard stuff.
00:01:49.560 Oh, yeah, there you go.
00:01:50.440 It's just really all about him.
00:01:51.600 I'm getting tired of it.
00:01:53.140 I'm getting tired of it.
00:01:54.040 I'm worried he's going to overshadow us, and we're not going to be cool anymore.
00:01:56.840 To be honest, we still have the home studio, so we don't need to do this.
00:01:58.940 We don't need to be here anymore.
00:02:00.280 I think we just bail on this whole studio in the Standard Coffee Shop.
00:02:04.040 Amen.
00:02:04.860 Amen.
00:02:05.040 You know what?
00:02:05.380 I'm leaving right now.
00:02:06.240 Goodbye.
00:02:06.680 Let's do the show real quick.
00:02:07.520 Okay, we'll do the show first, and then we brought him back right away because his topics
00:02:12.480 always take a lot of time to unpack, and he has so much information.
00:02:16.960 And by the way, the part one of this is crushing on YouTube, so I'm very excited to welcome back
00:02:22.140 Austin Picard.
00:02:23.760 Also, we might not even – I mean, we're going to do – keep us to a 30.
00:02:27.400 At 30 minutes, I don't care if we're done talking about it or even less than 30 minutes.
00:02:30.920 Oh, we'll just unorganically segue.
00:02:33.040 All right, fine.
00:02:34.460 So first off, before we get started, where can people find you, Austin?
00:02:38.940 And thank you for coming back.
00:02:40.420 Absolutely.
00:02:41.160 And, yeah, the hard segue will not be any sort of issue, I don't think.
00:02:46.000 But, yeah, as far as just everyone, go check out the Underclass Podcast.
00:02:50.800 It's definitely the best place to find me, and I say the Patreon is also the best place
00:02:56.520 to support me as well.
00:02:58.060 Follow me on Twitter.
00:02:59.100 I never plug it, but Theater Thug, AWP, I believe, is my handle.
00:03:05.120 And, yeah, I don't know, guys.
00:03:07.540 I just – at this point, I'm feeling like, as we had mentioned the Influencer Industrial
00:03:14.060 Complex the last episode, I felt like that, just as far as what Top was describing privately
00:03:20.600 before we started the show, it seems to be perfectly in line with that sort of strategic avenue
00:03:28.640 of the mind war operatives that are obviously laying the groundwork and fully, I think,
00:03:36.160 systematically entrenching this social engineering conditioning, just exploitative strategic outcome
00:03:47.480 in many ways, but at the same time, it's leveraging these prominent personalities
00:03:53.280 in order to, one, stage these narratives by setting the table on what is and what is not
00:04:00.600 the concept of allowable opinion.
00:04:03.180 And then through that, they sort of misdirect the public within the concept of the false conclusion,
00:04:10.600 I think, aspect of things.
00:04:12.420 And that's where I do really believe they reveal the sinister nature of what they're attempting
00:04:18.500 to pursue and achieve in that moment.
00:04:21.380 But, yeah, if you want to just kind of like introduce what you were talking about.
00:04:27.660 Yeah.
00:04:27.740 Yeah, we'll add some context.
00:04:28.980 And I think we'll try to be a little bit careful with it because –
00:04:31.800 Should we show that tweet?
00:04:33.280 Yeah.
00:04:33.500 I like to be like, let's be careful with it.
00:04:34.860 No, let's blow this shit.
00:04:35.900 It's not about being careful.
00:04:37.100 I mean, like, I want to be specific.
00:04:38.760 Yes.
00:04:38.980 Because I don't hate the people that are involved with this.
00:04:41.940 I just – I got a lot of questions.
00:04:43.260 I got a lot of questions, too.
00:04:44.820 So –
00:04:45.540 Here's the tweet.
00:04:46.420 Now, this tweet, I honestly have a feeling is a direct –
00:04:49.020 I don't think it is.
00:04:49.380 So it's from Timothy Alberino.
00:04:51.380 Yeah.
00:04:51.840 He says, there is a lot of nutty Nephilim theories out there that are both fundamentally
00:04:55.800 unbiblical and wildly irrational.
00:04:58.520 A word of advice.
00:04:59.260 Don't believe anything you hear on podcasts.
00:05:01.880 And never go full retard.
00:05:04.420 Interesting set of themes in there.
00:05:08.460 Podcast Nephilim retard.
00:05:09.980 I don't know who they're talking about.
00:05:11.300 And I don't know that they're talking about us, but –
00:05:13.400 I don't think so.
00:05:14.140 Well, what I will say is I wouldn't be surprised if through the grapevine, the episode that we
00:05:18.520 did with Karen Wilkinson got out, which we did have a very serious discussion about Timothy
00:05:23.020 Alberino and particularly his take on the alien disclosure narrative as it applies to whether
00:05:30.680 or not they are demonic or something adjacent.
00:05:34.240 And I would say that we've built a lot of theory over the two years that we've done
00:05:41.120 this show on this foundation of like a Michael Heiser, right?
00:05:44.840 Where we're looking at the alien narrative as a rebranded sort of – how would you put
00:05:52.260 it – not a theory, but a visage really, right?
00:05:55.700 Like a facade.
00:05:56.840 An image.
00:05:57.380 An image.
00:05:57.920 And what these things actually are is of the demonic realm.
00:06:01.920 They are the machinations in one way or another of the fallen, of the Nephilim, of things that
00:06:07.420 are stuck in this low vibrational realm that seem to maybe use, let's say, alien grays
00:06:12.340 as meat sacks that they can temporarily inhabit to engage in a limited way with the physical
00:06:17.840 realm.
00:06:18.040 This comes by way of Karen Wilkinson.
00:06:20.240 The thing that really sticks out as strange to me is – and we talked about it on the
00:06:24.820 show.
00:06:25.420 So this isn't like breaking news.
00:06:27.060 There are other people that we're aware of – I don't think we're going to say their
00:06:29.680 names – who have been, let's say, on their radar.
00:06:34.860 There being Timothy Alberino, maybe the Blurry Creatures guys, and whose ideologies really are
00:06:40.880 in alignment with Michael Heiser's.
00:06:42.200 I don't even want to say ours because Heiser is the guy that laid this foundation long before
00:06:45.680 we came along.
00:06:46.380 I just happen to agree with it wholeheartedly.
00:06:49.520 And so they've had interactions with these people, like Karen Wilkinson and like others,
00:06:55.060 and they've actually not aired the episodes.
00:06:58.340 And it's interesting that they all have this thing in common.
00:07:02.340 They would maintain that the alien disclosure is an alien deception, maybe the biggest deception,
00:07:08.220 and that it is of a demonic nature.
00:07:10.380 And so if you listen to these guys –
00:07:13.380 To disclaim it, I try to listen to Alberino and Blurry, but I'm not exactly sure what their
00:07:20.240 take is on the aliens.
00:07:22.080 They're physical creatures, yeah.
00:07:25.040 They're possibly also spiritual creatures, yes, too.
00:07:28.600 But then it starts to muddy the waters with, are they demonic?
00:07:32.740 Which, by the way, gets a lot of ridicule, pretty brash ridicule coming from guys like
00:07:38.020 Alberino.
00:07:38.480 Well, they'll say, if you say that aliens are demons –
00:07:41.740 You're retarded.
00:07:42.180 You're retarded.
00:07:42.800 And I don't know that anybody's actually out there saying that outside of shorthand,
00:07:47.920 just to maybe get the conversation going.
00:07:50.680 And let's remove the idea that they're talking about our show.
00:07:54.040 It's a very nuanced opinion.
00:07:55.740 We've had discussions with people like Karen Wilkinson, like L.A. Marzulli,
00:08:00.100 like our own buddy Colin, who seems to be going through some sort of firsthand experience.
00:08:07.060 And this also –
00:08:07.800 We've had discussions with Alberino himself, and he's conceded.
00:08:10.080 And he's conceded.
00:08:10.720 Well, not just – I don't know if it conceded, but like said, like, you know what,
00:08:13.880 there's something to that.
00:08:15.180 It's just very strange.
00:08:16.500 And as it comes on the heels of this new documentary, The Age of Disclosure,
00:08:21.620 which is basically a government-funded documentary with like Noel Harari
00:08:25.440 and other kind of politicians and disclosure experts that are all paid for by the disclosure
00:08:32.220 exports.
00:08:33.580 Yeah, it gives me a lot of pause.
00:08:36.420 And I don't want to start to throw assumptions around, although I'm sure,
00:08:40.720 like Matt, would think that we're just throwing assumptions around.
00:08:43.440 But I got questions.
00:08:45.520 Why is that happening?
00:08:46.540 And Austin's on the show.
00:08:48.340 Austin, you're one of the people that have been talking about this complex,
00:08:53.200 this creator complex.
00:08:54.400 And it's like, I don't know what's going on anymore.
00:08:57.640 And people that should know the truth are kind of like – or not just know the truth,
00:09:03.360 but they're like slightly deviating from it.
00:09:05.680 I'm not – I don't know.
00:09:06.860 What do you make of that?
00:09:08.600 Yeah, I pretty much was describing it as an attempt to manifest and engineer socially
00:09:16.480 this sort of New Age ideological esoteric system of control in many ways, right?
00:09:25.000 And I think that it's this occultism that's layered into the potential outcome as well.
00:09:31.420 And I know that sounds strange, but I believe that this is really a manifestation of fulfilling
00:09:36.320 this God whole within the modern structure of society itself and really kind of creating
00:09:43.380 this New Age ideology where people will then begin to embrace this kind of conceptual outcome
00:09:51.420 in a sort of way and leave the age-old sentiment of religious doctrine and various conservative
00:10:00.060 values in the past once and for all.
00:10:02.240 And hopefully, I believe – not hopefully in my opinion, but clearly in the minds of the social engineers,
00:10:09.800 I believe that they do truly want to usher in the dawning age of Aquarius, right?
00:10:17.420 Like this legitimate kind of rebuilt international global systematic structure that really is this kind of –
00:10:28.640 I try to – I know people have their qualms about New World Order, but it's obviously a term that they themselves utilize.
00:10:37.200 And so it's nothing that I shy away from.
00:10:39.900 But I will say that the way that I described it, because I covered the Disclosure Project whenever I did my episode on Project Blue Beam.
00:10:47.580 And to me, just seeing those usual suspects, the Stephen Greers, right, of the world who are financed by the Rockefellers and legitimately –
00:10:58.860 I mean, ever since Orson Welles and the War of the Worlds broadcast, when – I mean, that was a psychological operation to legitimately, you know, gauge the aftermath and the fallout in regard to the psychological phenomena and how it really affected the public.
00:11:15.400 And you had people, just farmers, you know, who legitimately believed that the Martians were invading and picked up all their belongings and went to the local federal building and thought that we were under attack from an extraterrestrial, you know.
00:11:32.060 And it's just hilarious to me, because the way that I described it, though, I thought I was pretty – just as far as I think that this still applies, you know.
00:11:43.340 And that basically comes in the form of questioning this new orthodoxy, right, a new age religion, as I mentioned.
00:11:53.020 And I believe that this is kind of – these layers of mind manipulation have been, you know, undeniably sort of interwoven into the public consciousness at this point.
00:12:07.500 And so I think this is all about a potential fulfillment of a manufactured crisis that was paired with this sophisticated, socially engineered prophecy.
00:12:18.760 And I think that that in itself really provides us with the path to understand these secret government programs as far back as Blue Book, where I can point to Alan Dulles being the – this is a brainchild of Alan Dulles, you know, post-World War II.
00:12:33.600 They wanted to manipulate the minds of the public by utilizing this extraterrestrial threat.
00:12:40.180 And that in itself, you know, kind of – I think when you see how it runs perfectly in parallel with these government-sponsored disclosure projects and things of that nature, as far as these clandestine operations that very much – like, here's the thing.
00:12:58.000 And with Blue Beam itself, if you actually read through it, they have the big space show in the sky, right?
00:13:04.100 And it's hilarious to me.
00:13:05.300 I'm sorry, Austin. I got to just say somebody – can you just read that note? What the hell is this?
00:13:10.420 This is a – I'm sorry to do this, Austin, but it really –
00:13:13.240 This doesn't really ever happen.
00:13:14.180 This is – so we've received a gift from the live audience.
00:13:18.580 Is he in the chat?
00:13:19.300 Shout-out to Atma, one of the longtime homies and supporter of the show, for the fog machine.
00:13:29.460 We've been gifted a fog machine.
00:13:31.140 Just showed up here in the – and it says – there's a note on it that Matt has written, and he said,
00:13:37.220 unbelievable, I want my life back.
00:13:40.200 And sorry, man.
00:13:41.080 This comes as an inside joke, sort of, from Matt's disdain for the 501c3 system, church system,
00:13:49.620 and how they always have fog machines and laser lights, and now we have our very own fog machine,
00:14:00.360 which is honestly incredible.
00:14:03.720 Leave that there.
00:14:04.800 Thank you so much, Atma.
00:14:06.080 Dude, that's the coolest shit ever.
00:14:07.480 Very strange. You were talking about Alan Dulles.
00:14:09.620 I'm sorry.
00:14:10.120 Please, what the hell, guys?
00:14:12.640 Oh, my God.
00:14:13.840 Please, come on, dude.
00:14:15.900 Alan Dulles.
00:14:16.700 You guys know about Warner Von Braun, right?
00:14:21.400 Yeah.
00:14:22.480 Okay, so essentially, you have the Rockefellers and the Jesuits that very much, I believe,
00:14:30.000 kind of manufactured the disclosure movement in general.
00:14:33.760 And that in itself, I believe, is a huge red flag.
00:14:37.880 And, you know, understanding that they had these specific, they had financed these research groups,
00:14:47.460 essentially, that would provide this avenue of a sort of precedent, you know, in many ways.
00:14:54.140 But, yeah, it looks like Warner Von Braun himself, right, who was very actively in regard to in World War II and Nazi Germany.
00:15:04.040 Like, he was attending, you know, slave camps and legitimate rights as far as, like, I think it was – actually, I'll pull that because it's very interesting.
00:15:17.460 He's actually present when one of the slaves were basically fucking tortured to death, you know, which is sickening to actually witness that this individual had so much connections to – and he himself had ordered his execution in order to be this sort of example, if I remember correctly, which is fascinating to me.
00:15:39.620 But you had –
00:15:41.040 I think what really happened there, and I wonder if you would agree with this, it seems like the Nazi regime, they're steeped in the occult.
00:15:47.420 They actually do discover this spiritual realm filled with these entities.
00:15:51.720 They make contact one way or another.
00:15:53.800 And then what seems to take place is a generational deception that is birthed out of the advent of NASA, Hollywood.
00:16:03.620 It's so hard to explain to somebody like Matt –
00:16:06.260 I know.
00:16:06.700 It's a lot of catching up.
00:16:07.580 And I'm like, I'm talking about modern-day Israel, but then the inception of modern-day Israel comes in 1948 and right on the heels of the destruction of Nazi Germany.
00:16:15.880 And then Wernher von Braun and NASA is created and the CIA starts to –
00:16:20.200 Operation Paper Claire, Operation Project Stargate.
00:16:21.800 Boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:16:22.740 How do I explain to you a hundred years –
00:16:26.200 Of deception.
00:16:26.980 Of deception.
00:16:27.980 Yeah.
00:16:28.560 Orchestrated deception that seemingly gets us to the point where we are fully indoctrinated.
00:16:31.860 You've got to look at this damn tweet from Timothy Albarino.
00:16:34.540 This is the culmination of a hundred years of deception.
00:16:39.620 Of a hundred years of deception.
00:16:41.120 Well, that is the thing.
00:16:41.940 It's like we've been programmed by Hollywood, by NASA, by all this apparatus that springs forth after Operation Paperclip to accept these things that Aleister Crowley even interacted with, right, in the form of lamb,
00:16:57.020 to get us to the point where we're going to accept a large-scale alien deception.
00:17:02.080 So, you know, what – the thing that gets me is what's coming – and a lot of people will say, and luckily not our audience because of who we're talking to,
00:17:13.420 but a lot of people will say, why are you even focused on this thing?
00:17:15.940 I don't think people realize how funded the disclosure is going to be, how cohesive the disclosure is going to be,
00:17:23.500 how many experts are going to sing the same song on the topic of disclosure,
00:17:30.000 and how, if that is truly going to come to pass, it will be one of the greatest lies ever orchestrated.
00:17:37.780 And see, when you read the Bible and it says that there will be like a great – there will be a deception that will fool the masses.
00:17:43.200 It will fool everybody.
00:17:44.740 And you go, how the hell are you going to fool the entire church?
00:17:48.100 I was like, well, let's look at how closely – how closely tied this, like, narrative is to the church
00:17:54.140 and not, like, to the biblical church, the body of Christ, to the modern 501c3.
00:17:59.840 Yeah.
00:18:00.320 What did the pope say?
00:18:01.300 By the way, the pope said he would baptize them.
00:18:03.140 Well, yeah, but I'm talking about the establishment that is, like, basically owned by –
00:18:09.420 Who?
00:18:09.800 Israel.
00:18:10.440 What?
00:18:10.880 I don't know.
00:18:11.460 No.
00:18:12.120 Yeah, you know.
00:18:12.620 What are you talking about?
00:18:13.180 It's crazy.
00:18:13.840 Why would you say something like that?
00:18:15.080 Because it's just so blatantly in your face all the time, right?
00:18:18.040 I don't think that's true.
00:18:18.760 It's very frustrating, man.
00:18:19.960 And I'm trying to put together these pieces to exactly why and how and how to explain it
00:18:24.900 to the common person that just wants to go to church and, you know, learn.
00:18:32.940 Sit in the fog machine.
00:18:34.160 Sit in the fog machine.
00:18:34.880 Have some laser lights.
00:18:36.200 Experience the Holy Spirit.
00:18:37.380 Listen to the songs.
00:18:38.540 I don't know, dude.
00:18:39.580 I really want to plug this thing in, by the way.
00:18:41.100 I want to plug it in so bad.
00:18:42.760 It's very frustrating.
00:18:43.840 It does different colors on the fog.
00:18:47.020 But, you know, Austin, from where you're sitting, you know, having looked at so much
00:18:51.720 high-level espionage –
00:18:53.140 Also, can I just say –
00:18:53.960 Yeah.
00:18:54.400 I feel really bad that we're coming after Alvarino like this.
00:18:57.220 No.
00:18:57.840 But I feel like it's just, like, I'm reading it and I'm perplexed.
00:19:02.060 And I want to know more.
00:19:03.240 And I want to know why.
00:19:05.080 Well, look.
00:19:06.260 I'm confused.
00:19:06.960 When you look at these – and we were talking about the – what did you call it?
00:19:11.260 The influencer industrial complex, which is one of the greatest.
00:19:16.260 You look at the apparatus that's getting built up around disclosure.
00:19:19.200 You look at the way that maybe certain influencers are starting to get ahead and sing the right tune.
00:19:23.740 Does this not bear resemblance?
00:19:26.740 Austin Forbes.
00:19:27.560 Is that his name?
00:19:28.020 Austin Forbes.
00:19:28.860 Yeah.
00:19:29.180 He's one – I mean, it's a clear path.
00:19:31.600 It's like, hey, no one's going to listen to your anti-gravity stuff.
00:19:35.380 Right.
00:19:35.680 But sing this song.
00:19:37.180 $7,000 to sing this song.
00:19:39.380 Maybe not even paying them, but maybe just sing this song.
00:19:41.760 And then you'll see them do it and you're like, this is to your detriment.
00:19:44.160 It doesn't quite make sense.
00:19:45.260 But I think what Austin really has, you know, is this intimate knowledge of how these systems work.
00:19:51.200 He's looked at so many systems, you know, a thousand-foot overview and then an intimate –
00:19:56.900 By the way, we have 11 minutes on this.
00:19:59.200 I know.
00:19:59.560 I know.
00:19:59.940 But does this – does it look to you, Austin, like one of these – because so often these patterns repeat themselves.
00:20:07.220 This looks like an op.
00:20:10.720 Oh, yeah.
00:20:11.540 Now, that is my entire perspective on the Disclosure Project in general and the origin story behind it.
00:20:18.780 They called it the battlefield of the mind, right?
00:20:21.460 And I believe that this is legitimately how you kind of, you know, perfectly, let's just say, divide, you know,
00:20:31.440 let's separate, you know, the notion as far as the spiritual context of what this fulfills in terms of a scientific component
00:20:39.240 of how individuals can point to something that really becomes this – honestly, it really becomes a faith,
00:20:51.160 a sort of factor involved in the extraterrestrial concept alone, right?
00:20:57.500 You become a believer, an indoctrinated cult member to a certain degree.
00:21:01.840 And I think I'm not at all denying the possibility, right?
00:21:07.380 I, again, would say interdimensional is far more – I'm far more open-minded to that than some sort of – yeah, I'm not even certain.
00:21:17.760 I don't believe we've ever penetrated the space, you know, in terms of – I don't think we ever actually have gotten outside of the Van Allen Belt, right?
00:21:28.620 I believe that, you know, that alone, that's sort of what I was getting to in terms of von Braun because of what was on his tombstone.
00:21:37.640 You know, I always found to be so fascinating, which is hilarious to me, especially considering the scientific kind of background of who this man was, right?
00:21:48.460 The father of modern rocketry.
00:21:50.400 I mean, it's just ridiculous.
00:21:52.100 The father of space travel, right?
00:21:54.080 He was the father of many things, apparently.
00:21:55.740 And also, he – so this is fascinating to me and something that I had discovered during that episode on Blue Beam because I think it was in 58 whenever NASA was fully established by law.
00:22:12.020 And then Wernher von Braun by 1960 becomes the first director.
00:22:16.160 And he holds that position until 1970 for around 10 years.
00:22:20.700 And then basically what's interesting to me, though, is that he had been exposed through being one of the paperclip Nazis, obviously, who was brought over with evidence proving he was even a member of Hitler's elite SS, which makes sense.
00:22:37.720 And then you have multiple Holocaust survivors who identified von Braun directly as ordering the floggings of slave laborers who attempted an act of sabotage while being forced to work in the rocket program at the Middle Baldura concentration camp, where 20,000 were reported to have died from illness, beatings, hangings, and intolerable working conditions.
00:22:59.620 So he directly was – so he directly was – even a French prisoner, I guess, claimed that he stood by as prisoners were hanged by chains, suspended by cranes.
00:23:10.040 So this is the father of modern rocketry in the space program.
00:23:13.680 And he would die, I think, in – it was like by 1978 or 77, I think, is when he actually died from kidney cancer or something to that effect.
00:23:25.160 And that is when he told – this is so hilarious because the woman that is now the face of the Disclosure Project is a woman by the name of Dr. Carol Rosen.
00:23:35.920 All right, she's a spook.
00:23:37.540 There's no doubt in my mind.
00:23:38.940 Like, she's 100 percent, I believe, that the entire Disclosure Project can be directly traced back to the intelligence apparatus.
00:23:47.780 And I believe that she herself would become – Carol Rosen was given the deathbed confession, allegedly, by von Braun.
00:23:57.020 She's the individual who heard his deathbed confession, which is very interesting.
00:24:00.500 And she served as the very first female executive of an aerospace company, working as corporate manager of Fairchild Industries.
00:24:10.020 And so Dr. Carol Rosen was a spook who founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space.
00:24:17.340 And it's just fascinating to me that clearly she is involved with projects directly linked back to that of these UFO whistleblowers that have CIA connections.
00:24:28.680 And so you then begin to realize that it was, I believe, in 2013, there was a citizen's hearing on the Disclosure Project, right?
00:24:38.520 And this was all financed and put together and orchestrated by Lawrence Rockefeller.
00:24:43.600 And so it makes sense that, you know, the vast majority of these UFO-backed related projects just can be effectively traced directly to, you know,
00:24:54.760 the very, you know, the very, you know, suspects that have perfectly orchestrated, you know, these, you know,
00:25:02.140 let's just say the deliberate deception at play in the sort of modern paradigm that we even engage with this concept, you know, kind of –
00:25:13.160 this is how they set the table, right?
00:25:14.680 It's the psychological cooperation aspect of these things and the human potential foundation.
00:25:19.800 And there's so much connected to this that it seems like this is really a transhumanist agenda in certain ways as well.
00:25:28.820 And that's why I think seeing that you have direct – like Stephen Bassett and various individuals like this
00:25:35.980 who are legitimately financed by Jesuits connected to the Rockefellers directly as well,
00:25:41.740 then it begins to make sense because the Jesuit order comes up far too often in many of these circumstances.
00:25:49.800 And it was the Bible verse, though, that I found to be one of the most fascinating aspects of what was, you know,
00:25:57.760 effectively on the tombstone of Wernher von Braun, right?
00:26:01.100 Yeah.
00:26:01.280 And so it was apparently what he had put was Psalm 19.1, right?
00:26:09.680 Yeah, God showeth his handiwork in the firmament, I believe is –
00:26:13.380 The heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament showeth his handiwork.
00:26:18.860 Yep.
00:26:19.940 Like that alone, man.
00:26:21.700 Come on.
00:26:22.100 That's difficult too.
00:26:23.040 You know what's funny, Austin?
00:26:24.400 I was just hanging out with a bunch of family.
00:26:26.600 That's a deathbed confession.
00:26:27.380 It is.
00:26:27.720 I don't know how you dismiss that, you know, any other way, but I'm hanging out with my family and I'm kind of, you know, saying this crazy stuff to them.
00:26:37.780 And at one point I was hit with – well, I don't think that that could be because, you know, it's a secret that's too big and it would take too many people to –
00:26:47.620 And everybody knows people can't keep a secret.
00:26:50.100 And I'm just like – it's just such a classic response.
00:26:52.360 Like, oh, people can't keep a secret that big.
00:26:53.940 And I go like, oh, if you're paying attention, they don't.
00:26:55.960 The ones that don't die.
00:26:58.580 Yeah, and if you're looking, the secrets come out.
00:27:01.600 You just have to be looking for them.
00:27:02.820 I mean, yeah, sure, people have a hard time keeping secrets, but what – does it matter if they release their secrets if you're not listening?
00:27:11.080 Oh, man.
00:27:11.420 What happened – what's homeboy's name?
00:27:14.340 Armstrong?
00:27:16.980 Is that the guy that –
00:27:18.220 Oh, yeah.
00:27:18.920 He's constantly, like, letting these little –
00:27:21.140 He's, like, punching reporters and stuff.
00:27:22.720 Well, no, there's a little girl that was just, like, how come we haven't been to the moon again?
00:27:28.880 And I swear he, like, leans in and he goes, because you little slanted-eyed bitch.
00:27:32.640 We never went there in the first place.
00:27:34.380 And then he's, like –
00:27:35.100 Dude, I will say.
00:27:37.800 So, I mean, you know, it's not the bike guy.
00:27:39.820 What's the dude's name?
00:27:40.840 Is it – it's Armstrong, right?
00:27:42.840 Neil Armstrong.
00:27:44.220 I want to say Lance.
00:27:44.880 Neil Armstrong.
00:27:45.260 No, Lance is the bike guy, dude.
00:27:46.660 Neil is – I believe that's him.
00:27:50.060 But anyway, yeah, it's just funny because whenever you're on the show, you do such a great job of showing all the details and the names and the places and the documents and the dates and all this stuff.
00:28:01.540 And it's, like, no, look, the secrets were kept.
00:28:04.140 And if you're like Austin, you can do a pretty good job of getting to the point where it doesn't feel so secret anymore.
00:28:10.720 It seems pretty obvious because there's always – there's always a paper trail.
00:28:16.900 Always a paper trail.
00:28:17.880 No, I didn't mean to step on you there.
00:28:20.400 I just –
00:28:21.800 Buzz Aldrin.
00:28:23.020 Yeah, that's it.
00:28:23.840 I was just about to –
00:28:25.120 The hell did I say?
00:28:26.900 Neil Armstrong, which –
00:28:28.720 I said Lance Armstrong, so we're like –
00:28:33.720 Well, I think the first dude on the moon was Armstrong or something – Neil.
00:28:40.920 Neil – I think it was Neil Armstrong.
00:28:42.320 Yeah.
00:28:42.440 Yeah, you were right on that.
00:28:42.800 Yeah, because it's A – that's why his name backwards is Alien.
00:28:47.280 Like, Neil A is Alien backwards, which is stupid.
00:28:53.540 But no, it was Buzz Aldrin.
00:28:54.800 He punched Bart Sabrell is, I believe, the guy's name.
00:28:58.940 That's right, yeah.
00:29:00.000 Wasn't he – he was on tinfoil hat back in the day, I believe, a couple times.
00:29:03.960 And he's an interesting guy, honestly, but I will say he wrote a funny – what?
00:29:10.640 A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, I think, is the book that he wrote.
00:29:14.060 Yeah.
00:29:14.200 And honestly, he's – you know, I will say he's not the most reliable source, so something that I would just – as far as just – you know, I don't know.
00:29:25.620 There are more – just as far as prominent sources that I think are far more reliable that are worthwhile and effectively kind of, I don't know, just pointing people to in terms of some sort of credible, you know, avenue.
00:29:42.800 But I'm not at all contending with much of what he has to say because I do definitely agree with a lot of what he has said and shared in terms of the moon landing.
00:29:53.240 But I will say it was hilarious the way that he approached Buzz Aldrin before he just straight up dapped him up in the street, which, hey, man, I'll be honest.
00:30:02.060 Like, if you've – just some – you know, an older gentleman who, you know, legitimately just – he doesn't have any time for this, right?
00:30:09.960 And he's like – that's what it seemed like.
00:30:13.140 Aldrin's just like, dude, I'm done with it.
00:30:15.200 I don't give a shit if we win or not.
00:30:17.220 Like, that's kind of how he seems, to be honest.
00:30:19.880 And really many of the – those – the actual astronauts who effectively were intended to believe made the spacewalk right on the moon, I think they were really – I don't know how read in they were on the ultimate outcome of things.
00:30:36.220 And you know what I mean?
00:30:36.940 I think it's far more efficient if you keep things compartmentalized in terms of the operation anyway, let alone the rotary telephone call to the moon directly.
00:30:46.060 That was the best.
00:30:46.820 Come on.
00:30:47.440 What are we doing here?
00:30:48.340 Do you know what was, like, really compartmentalized?
00:30:51.600 Columbine.
00:30:52.920 Oh, my God.
00:30:54.040 Hold on.
00:30:54.660 Hold on.
00:30:54.940 Hold on.
00:30:55.440 Hold on.
00:30:56.100 Beautiful segue, but give me one brief moment before we do that because there were two examples I had to tell you as far as – we had been discussing the disclosure project.
00:31:06.380 And basically, there's evidence that really, I think, reinforces a lot of what I was attempting to say, which essentially is just my perspective on disclosure and the extraterrestrial phenomena truly being – and the UFO, flying disc craze, all of it.
00:31:21.380 Essentially being this manufactured operation from really psychological operation that was the brainchild of Alan Dulles in more ways than one.
00:31:32.900 And we have documentation and legitimate evidence that we can point to.
00:31:38.460 For example, there was an individual by the name of Walter Bettle Smith, who was the CIA director during the 1950s.
00:31:47.380 And basically, there was an internal document that was effectively presented to the Psychology Strategy Board of the CIA in 1951 or 1952.
00:32:00.500 And it says, today, we are transmitting to the National Security Council a proposal in which it is concluded that the problems associated with unidentified flying objects appear to have implications for psychological warfare as well as for intelligence and intelligence operations.
00:32:20.060 I suggest that we discuss at an early board meeting the possible offensive and defensive utilization of these phenomena for psychological warfare purposes.
00:32:30.500 So that's one beautiful example, right, in many ways.
00:32:34.480 And then also you have the radar deception that played out as far as the manipulation of what they call the battlefield of the mind.
00:32:43.180 And there was an essay that was written by this man by the name – he was a leading chemical engineer, right, who worked on the Manhattan Project.
00:32:52.580 And his name was Dr. Leon Davidson.
00:32:55.380 And he himself would become one of the leading UFO investigators during the Cold War.
00:33:01.980 And he writes an essay in 1959 that he titled, CIA plus ECM equals UFOs, how to cause a radar sighting.
00:33:10.580 And he states, I contend that since 1951, the CIA has caused or sponsored saucer sightings for its own purposes.
00:33:21.680 By shrewd psychological manipulation, a series of, quote, normal events has been served up so as to appear as quite convincing evidence of extraterrestrial UFOs.
00:33:32.580 So that's another ridiculous example.
00:33:37.580 And then we have Lord Mountbatten, of all people, who's a member of the Anglo-Irish Vice Ring, coming out and making statements about unity.
00:33:45.580 Unity and Fabian socialists who are legitimately doing this very same thing, right, who are attempting to present this as a collectivist philosophy, right, this new age mindset of how we could unite against the common enemy, an outside threat, which then Reagan later would sort of parrot and reinforce in many ways as well.
00:34:07.540 But this was as early as the 19, you know, early 1900s, 1917, these statements are being made.
00:34:14.460 And then one final statement that I want to make before we make that a hard segue is basically that Alan Dulles became actively involved by 1950 with the CIA work on flying saucers and UFOs.
00:34:28.440 And he saw, allegedly saw, this is according to an open letter from 1962 that was written in regard to mass psychological warfare, right, in regard to UFOs, yes, and the CIA, and American technology being utilized for these purposes, twofold purpose, allegedly.
00:34:49.400 And, and, and so it was during 1950 when Alan Dulles allegedly became actively involved with this CIA work on UFOs and saw the psychological impact in which, with which they had.
00:35:01.560 So he started a plan to build them up as a psychological warfare weapon.
00:35:07.080 Okay, so then Project Blue Book.
00:35:10.160 Something crazier, too.
00:35:12.500 So the Book of Enoch was found in 1773, the first complete copy in Ethiopia, but they found, they, they basically verified it among the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947.
00:35:26.120 So like 1947, 1948 to 1950.
00:35:29.020 That's perfect timing, buddy.
00:35:30.740 Yeah, all this stuff happens, but it's like, it doesn't delegitimize the book because it's been around for years before that.
00:35:36.820 And they say it's written in like the first century, but it's, I guess it's solidified in that, in its legitimacy that like, oh, look, we found it now, but it happens in right around this time where all this stuff is going down.
00:35:50.020 That is interesting, too, because the guy from, what the hell is his name from?
00:35:54.000 That book's found, Israel's founded, and then boom, like we continue with every other project.
00:35:59.260 We have NASA afterward, like the space.
00:36:00.800 But what's this guy from Ancient Aliens that did the, he did a cover of the Book of Enoch, The Return of the Gods.
00:36:08.340 It was, I forget what the hell his name is, but he looks at it strictly through this sort of technological advanced civilization angle.
00:36:16.940 Jonathan Cahn?
00:36:17.420 No, not Jonathan Cahn.
00:36:19.540 Book of, The Return of the Gods, Enoch, The Return of the Gods comes from one of the guys that was big on Ancient Aliens.
00:36:26.540 And I'm not saying that he's part of the op, but like, you can see the way that you could use Enoch to bridge into this alien narrative, and you can kind of massage it so that it's strictly technology, strictly space brethren.
00:36:41.180 Oh, it's Eric Von Daniken.
00:36:42.440 It's actually right by your head, the second one from the bottom.
00:36:45.140 Eric Von Daniken.
00:36:46.300 So that's a very interesting kind of, I mean, he's a big character, right?
00:36:52.420 And he's got a lot of influence within this community.
00:36:54.900 And so, yeah, Return of the Gods, Enoch and The Return of the Gods.
00:36:58.460 And I can see this like constant effort for this kind of Ancient Aliens take to reach into this.
00:37:05.860 And there's minor deviations.
00:37:08.360 And if they're, you know, fundamental to the story and you deviate in that way, well, then it changes the whole nature of the story.
00:37:14.760 It's a very dangerous combination with, I think, what's happening here because Austin is like debunking this from this like almost like state level, these government contracts and forms and dates.
00:37:28.180 And we're kind of coming at it from this like biblical perspective or even extra biblical perspective.
00:37:33.160 It's very interesting.
00:37:33.980 That's the thing.
00:37:34.860 And, you know, we can get off of it after this.
00:37:37.880 But what I will say is it's very obvious that there is a government component to the whole thing, right?
00:37:43.120 Like if you look into the presence of military in all of these instances, it's saturated.
00:37:49.860 I mean, how often does somebody have an alien abduction experience?
00:37:52.480 And there's also military personnel.
00:37:53.740 Like the idea of reverse engineering, the idea of psychological operations, the idea of deploying, you know, mind control or deploying sufficiently advanced technology in order to create a situation that creates an opening for military intelligence to then fill the void.
00:38:12.500 Right.
00:38:12.720 Let's just say.
00:38:14.040 Well, I think the question I'm having now is like, where does the deception begin?
00:38:18.500 Where does the truth start?
00:38:19.760 Because I personally believe that there is something true about this.
00:38:25.040 Yeah.
00:38:25.220 And I could see Zach is saying that.
00:38:27.160 Talk about Jack Parsons and JP, Jack Propulsion Laboratories, the subcontractor.
00:38:30.760 We can't, but we simply can't.
00:38:31.820 No, but it's very, very obvious.
00:38:34.900 There is a huge.
00:38:35.800 We're going to have to have him on again.
00:38:36.680 There's a human element to this.
00:38:39.260 But, you know, it's one of the things I like that Merkel says where he looks at it and he goes, yeah, all of the above.
00:38:43.860 There's military intelligence.
00:38:45.580 There's demonic entities involved.
00:38:47.480 There's all of this.
00:38:48.300 There's the human element.
00:38:50.140 It's very muddled and messy.
00:38:53.540 On purpose.
00:38:53.840 And there is a psychological operation that has been hatched upon the people for generations now since conservatively the 50s to get us to believe, you know, a certain thing about these entities.
00:39:06.100 And, you know, which is why it's frustrating whenever people that have a lot of influence within this community that seem to be close to the disclosure are saying that if you think this is demons, you're a retard.
00:39:16.120 And it's like, dude, you can't remove that.
00:39:19.360 And number one, you're straw manning it.
00:39:20.900 You're reducing it.
00:39:21.580 It's not that simple and you can't remove that.
00:39:23.860 And why aren't you talking to the people that have actually experienced this?
00:39:27.080 That's my thing.
00:39:28.120 There's people that are in the know who have had real experiences, who are tied up with guys like L.A. Marzulli, who have a piece of this puzzle that's huge.
00:39:36.120 And it seems to me like you're trying to omit a piece of the puzzle.
00:39:39.340 It seems like there's Schofield Bibling the Book of Enoch, which is very bizarre to me.
00:39:43.000 I don't like that.
00:39:43.900 Well, either way, Columbine.
00:39:48.900 Not as good as your segue.
00:39:50.040 We just completely destroyed any possible invitations in the future, but that's fine.
00:39:57.000 Needed to be said.
00:39:58.120 Needed to be said.
00:39:58.960 I just want to know.
00:40:00.280 Very concerned.
00:40:00.860 If you do see this, I want to know.
00:40:03.480 What are you doing?
00:40:04.420 Yeah.
00:40:05.380 What's happening?
00:40:06.220 Because if I can get a legitimate explanation that is satisfactory, in my opinion, then cool, man.
00:40:12.360 Because I love the work that these guys do, but I'm not going to let it go either.
00:40:16.200 For the audience, I spent quite a bit of time talking to my family over Thanksgiving.
00:40:22.760 My wife.
00:40:23.540 My wife.
00:40:24.240 And I got a lot of information in regards to the things that my grandmother experienced before she passed away since childhood.
00:40:31.460 And it's just Karen Wilkinson's story.
00:40:33.320 It's just Karen Wilkinson's story.
00:40:35.440 Over and over again.
00:40:35.700 Over and over again.
00:40:36.420 She experienced this intimately, and I think it ruined her.
00:40:41.380 It ruined her, and she ended up passing away very young because of alcohol-related issues.
00:40:46.300 And she couldn't figure out, and it led her down spiritually bankrupt paths and just all this chaos.
00:40:52.600 And it starts from when she's a child and all these abductions experiences.
00:40:55.900 And I'm sorry to continue to distract from what we came here to talk about, but it's like the alien abduction encounters, they closely resemble demonic encounters.
00:41:07.380 And demonic encounters always lead to paths of destruction.
00:41:11.020 You'll see people that are on paths of destruction that are clear demonic encounters, but they can't diagnose it because they don't have the verbiage, or maybe they're just too afraid to look at it directly, or maybe they haven't done this research or came across what's happening.
00:41:25.240 And it's like, it's important that we link these things together.
00:41:28.060 And then when you start to throw the government influence into there, it gets super nefarious.
00:41:32.000 We can't let it go.
00:41:33.520 No, I'm not letting it go.
00:41:35.000 I've got a little bit of a vendetta now.
00:41:36.720 But please, you know, let's – we're straying into part three now.
00:41:41.760 Right, well, and for the record, I just want it to be known that I'm not at all denying the spiritual conceptual outcome here in terms of the – in many ways, I believe that the state will always implement a sort of at least manipulation of prophecy in certain ways, right?
00:42:06.900 In terms of the spiritual nature of how you can legitimately, let's say, misdirect the public.
00:42:13.720 And I think that they will always attempt to utilize ideological groups, right, of any kind and kind of, yes, infiltrate with various individuals who will effectively, you know, perform the mind manipulation necessary in that field, right, or however you want to describe it.
00:42:34.780 But I will say that in no way am I denying, right, this spiritual manipulation that I think is being conducted.
00:42:42.520 And knowingly, I think it's a sinister and deliberate, you know, sort of attempt to really leverage and exploit these lower frequency individuals who aren't quite, you know, engaging with the proper interpretation of things in terms of, you know, just as far as – like, I legitimately believe that –
00:43:08.520 someone in the chat had mentioned the jet proportional laboratory and things of that nature, yeah, I mean, Jack Parsons and the Pasadena Lodge, right, in regard to the connection to L. Ron Hubbard.
00:43:18.920 And he's out there performing the Babylon working sex ritual in the desert, you know, with – which is legitimately sex magic, right, in the Philemic goddess of Babylon that they're trying to manifest and incarnate, right, using Jack Parsons' wife at the time, who L. Ron Hubbard runs away with, right, which is just – the whole thing is drenched in occultism.
00:43:41.820 And also, I mean, there's still – there was a crazy story about this individual – I'm talking, like, just a few years back, went on Joe Rogan, and he was called the Python Cowboy.
00:43:55.600 You remember that guy?
00:43:56.500 And basically, he had – well, I had watched it.
00:43:59.700 He was like a conservationist and would go out and was wrangling pythons, essentially, to help conserve, right, the – what's it called?
00:44:11.440 The Florida Everglades, okay?
00:44:13.040 And so, he essentially had gone out.
00:44:15.540 He had to receive access and essentially be given access and approved to visit this old Jet Proportion Laboratory black site from the Cold War.
00:44:28.420 And so, he had to gain access by the local government in order to even access this area geographically.
00:44:35.720 And it was so far deep into the Everglades.
00:44:39.520 And so, he inevitably finds the actual laboratory itself, which is kind of broken down, but still seems like people are effectively utilizing it to some extent for some reason or another.
00:44:53.920 And then, he begins to – basically, I'm pretty sure he had a couple of guys with him who were helping him kind of film things and things of that nature because he has his own show that he was trying to do.
00:45:09.460 But I thought it was interesting because, at the very least, he stumbles upon a ritual, sort of a blood ritual site, right, this occult site that is utilizing the Jet Proportion Laboratory, this broken down missile manufacturer production facility that Jack Parsons himself had a connection to, which is fascinating because apparently this had longstanding ties to occult rituals.
00:45:37.000 And so, this individual had just kind of stumbled onto what he viewed as they were – there was even this sort of crazy, like, Latin written in blood on the ground surrounding what looked like a sort of funeral pyre that had a baby doll just sitting at the center of it.
00:46:01.940 And it looked as if one of the eyes had been plucked out strategically in the ritual itself, which is very – I think it was the left eye, which that in itself is kind of occultic in nature and the symbolic aspect of it.
00:46:17.500 But there was a scarlet snake that he discovered that was, like, slithering through its eye hole and, like, was wrapped around the neck of the baby doll whenever he discovered it.
00:46:29.500 And in Latin, I believe the phrases were, like, turned back or – there were a few different phrases that were written on the ground as he's, like, approaching this area.
00:46:39.200 And, yeah, it was very interesting to me because the scarlet snake allegedly was bleeding from the anus.
00:46:45.940 And he himself had claimed he had never seen this throughout the course of his lifetime and, you know, experience with these – just snakes in general.
00:46:54.860 But, yeah, that alone reminded me of how they utilize snakes in some of these abuse networks, which is fascinating as well.
00:47:05.640 Talk about bestiality in the Dutro network.
00:47:09.720 Yeah, in the Dutro network, part of the abuse, apparently, he would take around a scarlet snake and use it to sexually abuse the victims.
00:47:21.140 And, you know, it's – I'm talking the most sinister things you could read.
00:47:25.820 But that's what it reminded me of at a certain extent.
00:47:29.260 And so he continues to follow the tracks of the blood inside, right, after he finds this baby doll.
00:47:35.160 And he goes inside and he sees this sort of blood effigy on the wall.
00:47:40.040 And in a neighboring room is this kind of sleeping bag, which looks like there's a lump, you know, potentially a body, right, is how he described it.
00:47:50.120 But he didn't go that far.
00:47:51.780 After he found that, he basically freaked out and left and called the authorities.
00:47:55.700 But what he had discovered inside was it seemed like there were all these crazy symbols on the walls that looked like they were written in blood.
00:48:06.500 And then there was a chair in the center of the room.
00:48:10.800 And it looked like this was where the sacrifice had taken place because there was a pool of blood under the chair.
00:48:16.520 And then on the wall was, like, nailed to the wall was a dress that looked like a dress of a young, like, six-year-old.
00:48:25.680 Like, it definitely was not an old – you know, it seemed like a very young child's, you know, clothing, obviously.
00:48:33.580 And it looked as if it had blood on it as well, and it was nailed to the wall.
00:48:38.560 So it did seem as if – oh, I think he even mentioned the fact that she was only nine, was written on the wall in blood, right?
00:48:45.900 And so this is an old jet proportional laboratory in the Florida Everglades that Jack Parsons used to apparently actively engage in occult rituals there, right?
00:48:57.720 And so for this to still be an active site for legitimate occult blood rituals, that makes a lot of sense, to be honest, because I think a lot of these areas are geographically utilized in this sort of way.
00:49:09.160 And, you know, I would imagine the way that I see so many of these occult networks function, you have this dynastic kind of generational family dynamic, right, where they keep it in the family.
00:49:23.360 You're initiated once and for all, essentially, and based on your genealogy, you're also tapped into higher echelons of leadership potentially as well for the network itself.
00:49:33.600 And that is kind of how some of them function.
00:49:36.340 But, again, I will – I kind of butchered that in our presentation, but I will say it's worth going back and reading.
00:49:43.780 That's worth going into.
00:49:45.480 I mean, Nathaniel Gillis talks about being at some of these, like, higher-up disclosure experts' houses in their house parties.
00:49:54.180 And they're like, hey, you want to see something?
00:49:56.540 And they show them a shrine in their closet to an old god.
00:50:02.100 And he's like, I thought we're doing aliens.
00:50:04.020 And they're like, yeah.
00:50:05.760 It's like – so it's kind of like the same –
00:50:07.960 It is the same shit.
00:50:08.980 This overlap is just wild, dude.
00:50:10.960 It's the same shit.
00:50:12.060 And we have distracted, again, successfully.
00:50:15.060 Unbelievable.
00:50:15.840 From what you want to talk about.
00:50:17.580 Well, can I shout out RJ real quick?
00:50:20.100 Because RJ popped in the room.
00:50:22.400 RJ Fool?
00:50:23.300 I don't know if – no, no, no, no.
00:50:26.060 That's – J.R. Fool.
00:50:28.860 That's different.
00:50:29.700 But RJ's been a longtime fan of ours.
00:50:32.600 And he stopped by, and he took a selfie in here.
00:50:34.960 Yeah.
00:50:35.440 And he's hanging out right now.
00:50:37.280 And he saw the Ken Confirm fog machine is in there.
00:50:41.120 There we go.
00:50:42.420 RJ says, you guys are my Kardashian and Justin Beavers.
00:50:45.420 Oh, my gosh.
00:50:46.720 Unbelievable.
00:50:48.420 Not FJ Fool.
00:50:49.520 FJ Fool is a different guy.
00:50:50.560 So, okay.
00:50:51.500 Now, man, how the hell do we pick up the pieces of Columbine after that?
00:50:56.840 Oh, I got you, buddy.
00:50:57.860 And I will say that, you know, demonic possession, right?
00:51:01.720 Essentially just considering the notion that – because I discovered this potentially being a factor in regard to monarch mind control, right?
00:51:11.620 And so if we consider Eric Harris potentially being a victim of legitimate sophisticated methods of behavioral modification experimentation at Plattsburgh Air Force Base, then I wouldn't at all leave it outside the realm of possibility in terms of the – just understanding how mind control sort of manifests inside the fractured mind of the victim.
00:51:38.420 And I think that even the symbolic nature of the butterfly, which I think was fascinating because I was reading basically this insane breakdown by Ron Patton.
00:51:52.600 He had written on Project Monarch, and it basically discusses the 149 subprojects and various things, right?
00:51:59.680 And Project Spellbinder and these various, you know, subprojects that I wasn't even aware of, to be honest, for the longest time.
00:52:07.720 But there's this layered occult symbolism that seems to involve, let's just say, like the true meaning of psyche is alleged to be considered soul, right?
00:52:24.280 And so basically, it's basically what he was kind of referencing is the soul and the butterfly symbolic nature of the occultism in terms of monarch, right?
00:52:40.280 Is that human souls become like butterflies while searching for a new reincarnation.
00:52:45.880 This is what some of these individuals who practice esoteric occult values legitimately, allegedly believe in.
00:52:54.240 Now, that's interesting in terms of one of the potential, you know, applications for the symbolic nature of things.
00:53:03.000 But also –
00:53:03.780 In your research, have you found this idea that the wings of the butterfly represent the hemispheres of the brain?
00:53:08.940 Yes.
00:53:09.580 Because it seems that hemi-syncing is a huge component of the MKUltra program and really any of these programs.
00:53:18.000 It's –
00:53:18.200 CE5.
00:53:19.380 CE5 is huge.
00:53:20.560 Yeah, that's a bit of a problem right now.
00:53:22.980 But yeah, that's the way that I always interpreted it was – it almost looks like the image of the brain, although the wings might be considered inverted or whatever.
00:53:33.020 But it's the hemispheres of the brain.
00:53:34.640 Yeah, that's definitely – it's not at all coincidental, you know, whatsoever.
00:53:41.200 And as well as, you know, they claim sort of that the butterfly symbol itself is kind of the symbol of metamorphosis, right?
00:53:51.720 The transformation, you know?
00:53:53.320 And basically this is representing, you know, from the caterpillar to the cocoon to the butterfly in a sort of way, from dormancy and inactivity to the new creation.
00:54:06.060 And that alone is almost like playing God, right?
00:54:08.940 And I think that there's so much of that that – and again, I see it within the context of Michael Aquino and the Temple of Set and the Black Flame, which is this, you know, ridiculous sort of self-deification, right?
00:54:23.000 Where in many ways you kind of reject God because you view yourself as legitimately – just as far as having a plausible avenue to becoming a God on your own right or in your own right.
00:54:39.300 And I think that in itself is a huge issue with the New Age occult esoteric ideology because it is a way in which you kind of subvert the moral values and the core values of the West.
00:54:52.520 And that is in no way coincidence, but also allegedly the migratory patterns of butterflies plays into, as far as some of the species being fairly unique, plays into a little bit of the symbolic representation.
00:55:10.600 But the claim was that essentially there are – this is a Gnostic idea, right, in terms of the philosophy behind it.
00:55:19.620 And the butterfly was a symbol of corrupt flesh.
00:55:23.460 So the angel of death, right, is – basically you have this Gnostic artwork which portrays crushing a butterfly.
00:55:33.020 And that in itself seems to be this sort of symbol of – again, they're recreating their own sort of, let's just say, personality through the marionette syndrome.
00:55:49.040 And this puppet that is now perfectly on a string.
00:55:52.140 And I think that is where – I think we have this perfect window into the puppet masters and how they utilize this operational kind of strategy and strategic outcome to their benefit.
00:56:04.620 But this is within the – also, I think the therapists, just as far as the conditioning, these responses within the subconscious minds of the victims, this is a huge issue that people aren't quite understanding perfectly and because of the level of dissociation involved.
00:56:23.900 And I think they integrate occultism and these occult philosophies within the concept of basically monarch mind control.
00:56:32.920 But this is – anyway, the entire reason that I'm even discussing this is because I wanted to bridge it into the Kabbalistic mysticism and these various themes that seem to perfectly represent that of whenever individual victims are essentially enduring the effects of the dissociative identity disorder.
00:56:53.760 They are basically – they are basically through the traumatic implementation of the – just as far as the enhanced trauma that fractures the subconscious mind and the neural pathways.
00:57:08.260 That in itself is essentially demonic possession is what I was reading and that basically this – the – really how the programming kind of manifests through the trauma in itself within the victim is basically how they were essentially kind of claiming that the alters and triggers were really victimization of the body and soul, right?
00:57:37.200 So you have this complex – let's say the way that he described it was a computer program as far as Ron Patton when I was reading it.
00:57:45.580 And it was just fascinating again because he's utilizing this strange, unique, descriptive way of implementing a spiritual component to mind control that I think far too many people are willing to just dismiss at face value and not legitimately consider.
00:58:02.880 And that I do find to be a real issue in terms of not remaining open-minded to the potential outcome here and this being some sort of ancient strategy at play that they've been relying upon because what is the perfect chemical formula, right, of pharmaceuticals that they can at least apply in the perfect recipe in that sort of way?
00:58:28.580 I mean, it's just alchemy, right, in a certain sense.
00:58:32.440 And so just understanding the kind of terminology that has evolved over time, it doesn't necessarily make it any different than what it once was, which hypnotism and, you know, these various sophisticated methods that are a part of the perfect recipe, you know, play into the notion that –
00:58:52.580 I definitely believe that you're talking about assigning a specific, because it's fascinating, honestly, as far as the altars and how they can assign specific deities to the altars.
00:59:06.740 And this is what they're claiming throughout the process is that you can become possessed by some sort of unique form of demon that has been almost manufactured in a lab in a sort of way, right?
00:59:21.540 And it will have you sort of just inherently react in a way that is preordained.
00:59:29.840 And that in itself is allegedly, you know, kind of provoked and evoked from that very sort of sentient, you know, kind of – I don't know.
00:59:41.740 It's difficult to kind of put into the proper terminology as far as just understanding that it is potential, you know, the possibility of demonic possession in regard to dissociative identity disorder.
00:59:52.680 But I do believe that the legitimate mind manipulators have – I think they engage in these spiritual terms as far as the mind control aspect of things.
01:00:06.960 And I think –
01:00:36.960 Which is certainly something that, you know, these intelligence agencies have been interested in, at the least you could say that.
01:00:44.760 You know, Stranger Things is a show that sort of fictionalizes it, makes it fantasy, makes it fantastic.
01:00:53.220 Right.
01:00:53.700 But this is all based off of real programs.
01:00:57.440 And there are those out there who study psychic phenomenon.
01:01:01.880 It's been popularized recently within telepathy tapes, the telepathy tapes.
01:01:06.620 And on this show, we talk about the connection between these non-speaking autistic children being traumatized.
01:01:15.280 It's traumatic to have no agency over your body.
01:01:18.120 You have no recourse but to dissociate or disassociate.
01:01:22.940 And when you do that, what emerges?
01:01:25.220 Well, would you look at that, telepathic ability.
01:01:27.840 But what's really fascinating to me is that these are things that ancient people have known for the longest time and have practiced for the longest time.
01:01:40.420 And we went through a stage of ridicule, sort of, where these things were sort of removed from our materialistic paradigm that we exist in right now.
01:01:49.160 We're being reintroduced to this concept of spirituality.
01:01:52.260 And we're adding vocabulary to it and a scientific understanding, although we still struggle to understand all of it.
01:01:58.780 But I wonder how much really the, for lack of a better term, elites do understand about this.
01:02:05.840 And you find that our vocabulary, let's say interdimensional travel, we were talking about that earlier.
01:02:15.820 The Bible is said for some time, and you can go to these other, if for some of the listeners out there, the Bible is too charged of a word and you recoil from that.
01:02:25.860 Well, you need only look at any of these ancient mythologies, although I don't think that they're mythos, from any group.
01:02:33.160 And they would have had a spiritual realm, a heavenly realm, an underworld, right?
01:02:39.200 These have always existed in some way, shape, or form.
01:02:44.080 We just give ourselves a tremendous pat on the back when we coin it differently.
01:02:50.320 And so, for example, Stranger Things has the upside down, that's the underworld.
01:02:56.980 Every possible mythology has had an underworld in it in some way, shape, or form.
01:03:06.420 So I just, it's strange to me right now because we're shucking off a lot of sort of ancient terminology associated with this thing or that thing, whether it's, you know, fallen angels or God or any of these things.
01:03:22.480 And people will recoil at that only to clasp onto just a newer terminology that describes virtually the exact same thing.
01:03:30.800 I was driving with my son the other day.
01:03:32.700 I have a feeling we're not going to do a Columbine today.
01:03:33.700 No, no, I mean, we are still talking about the same thing.
01:03:37.640 But my son is in the back seat and he's like, what do you think about the idea of simulation theory?
01:03:44.600 Which is another example of us in our profound understanding and our scientific materialistic paradigm trying to assign a terminology and a definition to a thing that ancient people have already had under wraps for quite some time.
01:03:58.800 And it's like, what do you mean to say?
01:04:00.300 You mean to say that this realm was designed?
01:04:02.660 That there's a creator to this?
01:04:04.880 That there's something that exists outside of this?
01:04:07.720 You know, profound.
01:04:08.780 So it's, I don't know, it's strange to me.
01:04:12.620 And I think that over and over again, I do find that the ancients, some better than others, had a much better understanding and grasp of these things that we are wrestling with right now.
01:04:22.880 And that, you know, our own intelligence agencies have decided to meddle with.
01:04:29.520 And what are they using?
01:04:30.560 They're using altars.
01:04:31.660 They're using, you know, trauma and sacrifice and ritual and ceremony and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
01:04:37.320 The list goes on and on.
01:04:38.680 And fundamentally, though, through the implementation of these altars, I believe that they are playing on the duality, right?
01:04:46.340 The spiritual duality that honestly is just, you know, well-conditioned, I think it's inherent within us, right?
01:04:54.820 The good and evil, right?
01:04:56.880 In terms of just understanding the dual nature of, right, kind of, it's how, it's the interwoven kind of playing the two on an axis within the subconscious mind of the victim.
01:05:13.140 And that's how it's effectively described in many ways.
01:05:15.980 And the reason why I think there's a spiritual component is because the way that the internal structured system of the altars was effectively kind of presented was, and you kind of mentioned the fact that, right, within the system, it's shaped like a double helix, sort of.
01:05:35.260 And, right, in terms of, there's even seven levels, allegedly, which reminded me of the sevenfold path.
01:05:42.560 And the seventh, God exists within the seventh heaven.
01:05:46.940 Mm-hmm, exactly.
01:05:48.100 But how so many of these occult ideologies play on that very same concept.
01:05:52.520 And so the sevenfold path is this hermetic principle.
01:05:55.600 You know, it's just like, it's these theosophical notions that, again, are very much, let's just say, have a far-ranging history in terms of the applications that you can point to.
01:06:10.400 And all throughout human history and how it's affected and influenced the outcome in many ways.
01:06:16.380 And so I just see that how it was described as a computer program, right, is very interesting.
01:06:22.520 Because it was essentially through the altars being effectively implemented.
01:06:26.960 It's an internal programmer.
01:06:28.920 It's overseeing, essentially, the demons.
01:06:32.960 Or as they describe them as gatekeepers.
01:06:35.700 Now, that's interesting, and especially because they grant or deny entry into these different rooms in the subconscious mind.
01:06:44.740 And so also considering the level of, through DID and multiple personality disorder, many of the victims will effectively remain at this specific age whenever one of their alters are triggered, right?
01:07:01.900 And they'll be, for example, Regina Loof was the whore, right?
01:07:05.460 And she was perfectly submissive in every way and remained like a six-year-old IQ, sort of.
01:07:13.400 And also even had different handwriting and spoke differently whenever one of each of these alters was engaged and triggered.
01:07:21.740 Which, by the way, is you will find the same thing in schizophrenia.
01:07:25.340 Yeah, absolutely, man, which it stands to reason.
01:07:29.820 You know, I still don't effectively believe we understand what schizophrenia is, you know, as far as just the general public being able to, you know, perfectly define the effect and where it comes from, exactly.
01:07:42.960 You know, because, I mean, there's this guy down at El Pollo Loco, man, that he's straight up having conversations with himself, you know.
01:07:49.760 And it's, I mean, clearly he's talking to someone that he believes is there, allegedly, you know, and that's just something that is hard to conceptualize, you know, for anyone who obviously isn't plagued with some sort of psychological disorder of some kind.
01:08:06.700 But how much of this is, you know, how much of this is, you know, some sort of, let's just say, an inherent disadvantage due to a genetic defect of some kind, you know, you never know.
01:08:21.920 These things do happen.
01:08:23.180 But the notion of these gatekeepers, right, and these demons that are truly what they refer to as, they are effectively the individuals who are orchestrating which altar is triggered through the programming methods.
01:08:39.300 And that's fascinating.
01:08:41.060 And also, it seems to play into the Kabbalistic tree of life, right, these internal images that are predominantly seen by victims or survivors.
01:08:49.840 And so they claim that trees are very frequent in this imagery, as well as, and so they claim, like, the Kabbalistic tree of life with the joining root systems is a great way to describe it, right?
01:09:03.940 Infinity loops, ancient symbols and letters, spider webs, mirrors or glass shattering, mass, castles.
01:09:12.100 Now, that makes sense, mass, because Kathy O'Brien always spoke about how her father, right, who had been trained by the Catholic clergy after he had been busted for child pornography and sexually abusing children, he was essentially given an offer he couldn't refuse, right?
01:09:33.280 It's like, we bring you into the network, right?
01:10:03.260 He was also able to help procure other victims through that process, due to your sexual proclivities that you want to obviously engage in and have insulate yourself from accountability from as well.
01:10:15.140 And so typically, that's how it plays out.
01:10:16.960 But the way that she described it is that once he accepted, right, to avoid any sort of legal consequences, he was taken to a facility in Boston, Massachusetts with members of the Catholic clergy and trained in these sophisticated sort of behavioral modification experimentation methods.
01:10:37.000 And then he was basically, he went back home and he effectively practiced these methods on his five-year-old daughter who was named Kathy O'Brien, right?
01:10:49.420 And she told stories of her own father wearing a mask while he sexually abused her at the age of five.
01:10:58.380 And, you know, it's just like to imagine the level of how much that might psychologically disrupt you, you know, in terms of, you know, not even being able to see the facial expressions of the person who is sexually abusing you.
01:11:16.740 You know, I don't know how that might affect the mind or the subconscious mind even of a young child.
01:11:24.220 But, yeah, it's just one of those things you don't even want to understand.
01:11:28.580 You know what I mean?
01:11:29.240 At a certain point.
01:11:30.360 Well, that was for my son when we were in New York.
01:11:33.980 I mean, obviously nothing like that happened, but it was like during COVID.
01:11:37.020 So everyone's wearing a mask and he was severely developmentally delayed, large in part to the mask.
01:11:45.840 Like you can't see people's reactions.
01:11:47.920 You can't see their – when they're pronouncing words, when they're happy, sad, whatever it is.
01:11:53.580 So he's kind of like living in this state where he's seeing mom and dad, but that's not really enough to judge everything else around you.
01:12:01.300 That's a big impotence for me to just bounce, like just leave New York.
01:12:05.700 But, yeah, there's a developmental delay and a stunting, a retardation of the child's psyche by just covering – I mean, that's covering the bottom half.
01:12:14.720 So imagine the eyes as well because there's like – there's a lot of emotion and intent described in the eyes.
01:12:21.680 So, man, that's hard.
01:12:24.400 That's serious stuff, dude.
01:12:26.200 Absolutely, buddy.
01:12:27.060 And I think so much of this as well has to do with, you know, bloodlines, right, this genetic aspect of these generational satanic pedophiles.
01:12:38.060 Like I legitimately at this point, I believe that genealogy and bloodlines effectively matter more than we can truly kind of comprehend just as average individuals who obviously don't stand to gain from any sort of longstanding sort of familial prominence of some kind that we can rely on.
01:13:01.300 But still, this is – we're talking incest in order to create these sort of – I think it's one way to distance yourself from the victim.
01:13:14.880 It's, you know, in terms of if you have a breeding experiment or a breeding program where you can effectively provide undocumented children, then settle them with families, even if they are genetically, you know, let's say, actually family members of the parents themselves.
01:13:35.220 If you are a test tube baby, then you're somewhat desensitized or at least separated from the outcome in a sort of way because you're not directly kind of relating to the child as if it were your own in a sort of sense.
01:13:50.480 And I think that that in itself might help really provide the, you know, that sort of avenue of abuse where it becomes far easier for individuals who are among the initiated in the family dynamics of these generational networks and abusers.
01:14:11.720 That it does seem as if there's essentially truth to the notion that it – this is one way where you could legitimately separate yourself from, you know, let's say, how do parents sacrifice their own children, right, which people will – it's hard to understand.
01:14:30.880 But at the same time, I think it's something that we're not meant to conceptually be able to, right, interpret in the right way because we're not among the initiated.
01:14:43.940 This is a longstanding structured system that they have sort of exploited for their own benefit for far too long.
01:14:50.940 And so understanding that there is a legitimate – and by the way, this comes in the form of you hold a higher loyalty to the organization itself, to the network, to the philosophy behind what you stand for in regard to your initiation.
01:15:07.380 It is more of a – I kind of saw this come to fruition in terms of a recent film that I watched called One Battle After Another, which is obviously a sort of Antifa porn in a way.
01:15:21.620 It's kind of Antifa propaganda for progressives in a way to where it really leads – I think the ultimate conclusion is basically that really violence is the only solution, you know.
01:15:37.600 And I think that that in itself is a huge red flag as far as the overall moral values behind the film itself.
01:15:46.220 But I will say that it's a hilarious film.
01:15:49.360 It's made very well.
01:15:50.260 And I think he's one of my favorite directors.
01:15:52.620 And really, it's – Sean Penn's character is like Colonel Lockjaw, I believe is his name.
01:15:59.840 And it's really an interesting take on, let's just say, he has – he's a part of a fraternal organization called the Christmas Adventurers Club.
01:16:10.540 And they're very overly concerned with prioritizing racial purification, right?
01:16:16.140 And so it's interesting because he's in charge – at the beginning of the film, he's in charge of this immigration detainment facility on the border between Mexico and the U.S.
01:16:25.800 And so they're instantly playing into this radicalized leftist really kind of mercenary militia of some kind that is more – they're called the French 75, right?
01:16:40.860 And essentially, they're trying to free the immigrants from the fascist – you see what I mean?
01:16:49.200 This is anti-fascist propaganda.
01:16:51.520 But at the same time, it's very well done.
01:16:55.820 And there are moments that I think you can appreciate and kind of interpret things for yourself, you know, and not necessarily follow the path that they are laying down in terms of the groundwork of this, you know, ultimate propagandistic conclusion they hope you take from the film.
01:17:14.200 When in reality, I think it provides us with a window into kind of how power functions in a certain way.
01:17:22.420 And so this individual Sean Penn basically has a fetish, right, because this is a taboo in terms of his sexual interest being due to his legitimate racism in terms of – he's a racist, obviously.
01:17:37.820 Like, he legitimately, as far as Sean Penn's character, he's very overly militaristic, he's in charge of immigration domestically within the U.S., and he essentially was running this immigration detention center right at the beginning of the film.
01:17:54.380 And so this black girl basically who's Leonardo DiCaprio's love interest in the film, she's running this group of the French 75, this radical leftist sort of – yeah, just – again, it's sort of a militia of some kind, but it's just some kind of political organization that's attempting to create domestic tension.
01:18:18.220 You know what I mean, to essentially provide a solution to the system itself, when in reality, they're just bombing banks and healthcare facilities and things of that nature, right?
01:18:29.540 It's like, what are you actually accomplishing, you know?
01:18:32.220 Burning down your own city, sounds familiar.
01:18:34.260 Exactly.
01:18:35.160 But the point being is that basically he has this – Sean Penn's character has this sexual interaction with this black revolutionary at the beginning of the film, and I guess he impregnates her, right?
01:18:47.420 And so as he's tapped to become an exclusive member of the Christmas Adventurers Club, the fraternal organization of powerful influence, very much concerned with racial, as I mentioned, purification.
01:19:01.880 Racial purity.
01:19:02.940 Yeah.
01:19:04.000 He – they're doing an extensive background check on him personally.
01:19:08.760 And so he finds out that effectively he impregnated that girl back in the day because she went into protective custody basically and ratted everyone out, which I love the hypocrisy because she was kind of presented as like, I don't know, sort of a hero in a way as far as the black revolutionary radical.
01:19:29.080 And then she instantly betrays everyone and rats them all out and has sex with Colonel Lockjaw and gets impregnated and just bails, you know, after having the kid.
01:19:39.260 And so Leo's strapped with this young black kid that isn't even his, right, unbeknownst to him.
01:19:45.840 But obviously years later, like 16 years later, Colonel Lockjaw is tapped to this – become a member of this secret society.
01:19:52.960 And so he finds out they're doing this, you know, this crucial background check.
01:19:59.820 And so he wants to tie off loose ends.
01:20:02.160 And so he finds out through – he gets the intelligence of where this girl had effectively, you know, found just as far as where she was at this point geographically.
01:20:12.600 And then he says, give me a pretext to launch essentially an immigration raid in that area.
01:20:18.220 And so he goes in and he starts raiding, like, let's say, the local Chick-fil-A or some shit.
01:20:24.160 And, like, all the – he ends up even sending one of his security forces, you know, of immigration security, the ICE, basically, goes to the local high school.
01:20:37.400 And, right, and they kind of shut down the prom and everything, which is hilarious.
01:20:41.400 But anyway, the point being is that he legitimately held this potential membership of the secret society as far more of an honor than even being that girl's father, right?
01:21:00.760 And I think that just was sort of the overall point that I was attempting to make there because it really, I think, provided another window into – and it was hilarious, too,
01:21:12.460 because the membership of the higher echelon of the Christmas Adventurers Club actually found all of this out about Sean Penn's character
01:21:20.620 and then hired a hitman and sent him to just go effectively execute him and his character, and he failed.
01:21:28.280 And so Sean Penn is still somehow alive and inevitably has an interaction with the leadership thinking that he was going to be accepted into the Christmas Adventurers Club.
01:21:38.720 And, by the way, it led to one of the most entertaining and hilarious scenes that I have ever witnessed in cinematic history.
01:21:45.020 And I have to actually share it with you.
01:21:48.160 It's only two minutes.
01:21:49.160 And now that I've provided all the context, I think you both will laugh.
01:21:53.800 What's the name of the movie?
01:21:55.100 It's called One Battle After Another.
01:21:57.160 One Battle After Another.
01:21:58.360 Okay.
01:21:58.820 And it's on – here we go.
01:21:59.940 I got it right here.
01:22:00.740 Dude, I'm telling you right now, it is worthwhile in going to watch just for this scene alone.
01:22:06.580 And it's only a minute and nine seconds, actually.
01:22:08.420 So – but it's – just imagine if you're in some sort of interview process and you think –
01:22:18.180 This is after he was – oh, oh.
01:22:21.540 After they tried to kill him, yes.
01:22:23.700 Yeah, dude, that's Sean Penn.
01:22:24.760 This movie looks freaking awesome.
01:22:25.840 I think I saw you post this and I checked this out.
01:22:29.020 All right, all right, cool.
01:22:29.820 Let it rip.
01:22:31.120 I was once raped in reverse.
01:22:34.760 Raped in reverse?
01:22:42.180 Could you explain how that might work for us, Colonel Larcho?
01:22:46.440 The enemy employed deception.
01:22:48.680 I was drugged.
01:22:50.960 And while unconscious, my brain was not working.
01:22:57.660 But my power was, and I believe it was taken advantage of.
01:23:00.900 What kind of proof do you have?
01:23:05.040 If you were unconscious, how do you know this to be true?
01:23:07.300 I don't know it to be true, but I suspect it.
01:23:09.520 When I awoke, there was sensitivity in a private place and there was some residue of an interaction.
01:23:17.040 Interaction?
01:23:18.820 I believe he was a sperm demon.
01:23:23.260 A semen demon.
01:23:24.660 That's correct.
01:23:25.120 Colonel Larcho, what would be the purpose of the enemy raping you in reverse?
01:23:33.480 They saw the power of my mind and body.
01:23:37.160 They desired it.
01:23:41.280 That's honestly an incredible scene.
01:23:43.620 That's an incredible scene, though.
01:23:45.180 I love that.
01:23:45.960 I did see that.
01:23:46.980 You posted it and I was like, what the fuck am I watching?
01:23:49.720 But it was really funny.
01:23:50.700 It kills me.
01:23:52.380 And it was his justification, right, for why he engaged in that taboo sexual interaction with a black revolutionary.
01:24:03.620 Which is just, it was hilarious in context, obviously.
01:24:07.140 And really the film itself, I think, is one of Leonardo DiCaprio's most kind of humorous characters that he ever played.
01:24:13.580 But there was one moment as well where basically he goes in to speak to the teacher of his student, or I mean of his daughter.
01:24:23.740 And she's basically 16 at the time.
01:24:26.620 So she's a freshman, or I mean a sophomore, probably maybe junior in high school.
01:24:31.200 And so he goes and he talks to the history teacher.
01:24:34.640 And clearly this is from a leftist perspective, you know, so it's a little bit more.
01:24:38.420 Where he's mentioning a lot of fucking slave owners up there on the wall, you know what I mean, like as far as all the ex-presidents and stuff like that.
01:24:45.100 But still, whenever he's told by the teacher that his daughter's actually, she's doing very well in her schoolwork and all her studies.
01:24:53.900 And he basically starts crying.
01:24:57.460 And then he tries to like save face and, you know, collect himself by claiming that it was, you know, if you see me crying, it's out of joy.
01:25:07.500 And he's like the most miserable person on earth, because obviously the notion is she's doing well in history class.
01:25:13.540 So this is a huge problem and effectively runs in opposition to all of my core principles, which just who I am personally and how much I hold disdain for public school.
01:25:25.320 That's how I feel too.
01:25:28.100 When did this come out?
01:25:29.280 Because I thought for some reason I thought you were talking about something old that does not look old.
01:25:32.700 No, yeah, just it was Paul Thomas Anderson's new film.
01:25:36.040 And he did actually my favorite film ever, probably Inherent Vice with Joaquin Phoenix and Josh Brolin and Benicio Del Toro.
01:25:43.640 And and that's another amazing movie because it's about a COINTELPRO, you know, and it's very, very strange.
01:25:51.580 And utilizing, you know, let's say white supremacist organizations, biker clubs, things like that to run plausible deniability cutouts on behalf of the intelligence apparatus in the moment and pursue the agenda on behalf of of rights, the powers that be.
01:26:08.220 And then also how to utilize like this.
01:26:10.780 They needed they needed basically someone who wasn't Jewish to run one of the casinos on the strip.
01:26:17.280 Right. They needed an Anglo-American to basically take charge of one of the casinos.
01:26:23.120 So they they implemented or they installed one of their own puppets.
01:26:28.320 Right. Mickey Wolfman is the character in Inherent Vice, who's like this real estate mogul type of individual.
01:26:34.200 But again, it's like I think any sort of plot line that provides you with a realistic window into how powers truly functions.
01:26:44.840 Yeah, I think that's valuable. Right.
01:26:47.000 And I was seeing the same thing in in.
01:26:50.020 Well, obviously, in Stranger Things, we brought it up earlier, but I'm watching the what the heck was it?
01:26:55.460 The new season of it.
01:26:57.000 And it's just riddled with.
01:26:58.520 It's I thought it was going to be super gay.
01:27:01.140 It turns out it kind of is.
01:27:02.520 It's it's pretty good so far.
01:27:04.000 I didn't I didn't mind it.
01:27:04.820 I liked when they were they're trying to keep contact with spoiler alert guys.
01:27:10.000 They're trying to keep contact with Hopper while he's in the underworld and the upside down.
01:27:13.740 And how are they doing it?
01:27:14.920 They're doing it through frequency.
01:27:16.240 So they're trying to tune this receiver to the same frequency that he's operating on, even though he's in this other realm.
01:27:24.460 And they're still managing to keep contact with them.
01:27:26.940 And even my wife, my wife, even my wife was just like my wife.
01:27:30.960 She was like, oh, there's the frequency bit.
01:27:32.880 I was like, that's it, dude.
01:27:34.000 That's it.
01:27:34.460 So they and, you know, it's all about trauma and and, you know, basically these these children experiencing trauma.
01:27:42.840 And then what does it do?
01:27:43.900 It continually puts them deeper into contact with this this, you know, lower spiritual realm.
01:27:48.720 And then, of course, the military is is involved in all this, you know, so it's all telling you right on its face, a little gay.
01:27:55.820 There was some kind of gay shit going on.
01:27:57.700 I mean, I don't want to spoil it for you.
01:27:58.800 But, yeah, there's a lot.
01:27:59.660 There's a lot.
01:28:00.020 You finished it.
01:28:00.900 Yeah, I did.
01:28:01.440 You did.
01:28:02.100 You came away being like gay.
01:28:04.220 Yeah.
01:28:04.960 Damn.
01:28:05.380 It's a story.
01:28:06.940 It's a story of coming out.
01:28:10.360 Ah, what the?
01:28:11.200 Oh, my God.
01:28:12.880 Yeah, that's what it is.
01:28:14.160 I thought it was a story about sexually traumatizing these children and the radio demons, radio, whatever.
01:28:19.800 Spoiler alert.
01:28:20.320 No, no, you're going to spoil it.
01:28:21.320 Don't spoil it.
01:28:21.820 I'll spoil it for the audience.
01:28:22.880 Don't spoil it for me.
01:28:23.500 Radio girl podcast helps helps original guy with a bowl cut come out of the closet.
01:28:29.120 Oh, yeah.
01:28:29.320 Well, we knew that.
01:28:30.220 And he's not.
01:28:31.140 I thought he's just really gay.
01:28:32.480 And that was obvious.
01:28:33.260 Well, it doesn't matter.
01:28:34.900 The point is podcasting defeats the underworld.
01:28:37.300 Right.
01:28:37.480 That was that was really.
01:28:38.820 I thought it was being gay defeating the underworld, which is I'm like, that's an inversion.
01:28:41.540 That's an inversion.
01:28:42.400 Yeah, that's an inversion.
01:28:43.520 It's a butthole.
01:28:44.160 Oh, my God.
01:28:45.380 But yeah, they always do these things.
01:28:47.540 They always do these things.
01:28:48.460 They're always going to show you behind the curtain in Hollywood to whatever extent.
01:28:53.240 And it doesn't have to be a nefarious thing.
01:28:55.200 It's like people go like it's revelation of the method.
01:28:57.380 It's like, no, it could just be that like our reality is kind of fantastic in its ways.
01:29:04.240 And it makes for an excellent plot.
01:29:06.900 You know what I mean?
01:29:07.480 So I don't necessarily you don't have to look at Stranger Things as being, oh, they have
01:29:13.420 to tell you they have to because that's why everybody in the conspiracy community always
01:29:16.920 says it's like they have to tell you.
01:29:18.300 I don't think they have to tell you shit.
01:29:19.580 But I think they choose to.
01:29:21.900 You know, we don't have to tell the people about what's that fucking Columbine.
01:29:25.580 Oh, my God.
01:29:26.800 I knew it.
01:29:28.400 All right.
01:29:28.940 All right.
01:29:29.100 How about this?
01:29:31.380 OK.
01:29:31.640 Let me go to the bathroom real quick and then we'll come back.
01:29:33.880 I'll actually discuss Columbine.
01:29:36.440 Can we do that?
01:29:37.260 You guys want to take a break?
01:29:38.640 Oh, yeah.
01:29:38.980 Play some toad music.
01:29:40.060 Real brief.
01:29:40.940 Yeah.
01:29:41.620 You can take a break.
01:29:42.280 Take your time.
01:29:42.720 We like to play toad music.
01:29:44.620 Toad's ukulele.
01:29:45.340 We're going to go outside and say hi to the guests, too.
01:29:47.480 Yeah.
01:29:47.660 We'll say hi to some people.
01:29:48.800 We'll be back in a few minutes.
01:29:50.520 You guys get up.
01:29:51.120 Stretch your legs.
01:29:51.880 Do whatever you got to do.
01:29:52.940 Traumatize some children.
01:29:54.260 Intermission.
01:29:55.600 Traumatize some children.
01:29:56.520 Oh, yeah.
01:29:57.020 Set up the fog machine.
01:29:58.520 Maybe we could do that.
01:30:00.640 All right.
01:30:01.200 Here we go.
01:30:01.700 Enjoy some toad.
01:30:03.880 What's going on?
01:30:06.040 Yo, we're back.
01:30:07.120 We were supposed to do a whole bunch of production and Austin still can't hear us?
01:30:11.300 I can hear you now.
01:30:12.240 I can hear you now.
01:30:12.640 Okay.
01:30:13.060 We were supposed to do a whole bunch of stuff.
01:30:14.300 You guys are supposed to listen to Toad.
01:30:15.940 Instead, we just ran around the coffee shop.
01:30:18.300 We're supposed to set up a fog machine.
01:30:19.040 We didn't do that.
01:30:19.640 We didn't set up the thing.
01:30:20.540 So you guys didn't hear that.
01:30:22.320 That's fine.
01:30:23.000 We're going to edit that out for the future anyway.
01:30:24.660 We've got to remember that when we air this episode.
01:30:27.200 All right.
01:30:27.880 So anywho.
01:30:28.320 Just a blank minute of us saying that you're going to get Toad, not getting Toad.
01:30:31.260 And you didn't get Toad.
01:30:31.940 Well, you did get to look at them, which is almost as valuable.
01:30:36.000 I would say there's definitely value in getting to having a gander at Toad.
01:30:40.700 Okay.
01:30:40.980 So we were promised, Austin.
01:30:43.120 Yes, sir.
01:30:44.160 That we were going to talk about calling by.
01:30:46.340 I'll actually do it.
01:30:47.440 I swear.
01:30:48.380 I'll do it.
01:30:49.100 Wait, by the way, Panda Fly says somebody needs to send a fog machine.
01:30:53.020 Panda.
01:30:53.740 We have a fog machine.
01:30:54.340 Somebody literally sent a fog machine.
01:30:57.780 It happened.
01:30:58.460 They sent it.
01:30:59.060 So we now have one.
01:31:00.780 This thing's heavy.
01:31:01.580 I know.
01:31:01.920 I shouldn't put it on the lights.
01:31:02.700 We shouldn't put it on the lights.
01:31:03.420 We're going to set it up later on, and we're going to fill this place with fog.
01:31:06.720 And really, I can't wait to just the mysterious ambiance that it creates for this.
01:31:12.240 Okay.
01:31:12.600 All right.
01:31:12.820 So continue.
01:31:14.540 Okay.
01:31:15.000 So basically, I don't know.
01:31:16.820 I definitely, I had mentioned one, we would discuss the death education program.
01:31:22.980 I know we had also talked about just as far as the level of conditioning that I believe
01:31:29.540 the school itself was potentially, let's just say, it could have been a sort of geographical
01:31:37.460 and operational asset to the intelligence apparatus.
01:31:43.440 And I think that just knowing the longstanding conditioning of the curriculum itself that was
01:31:49.760 presented at Columbine High School, including a death education program course that effectively,
01:31:56.020 they were allowing teachers with no expertise whatsoever in even psychotherapy, were effectively
01:32:04.420 walking students through hypnosis, right?
01:32:08.720 Oh, that's dangerous, man.
01:32:09.620 Legitimately hypnotizing the students and then also having them in the moment where they're
01:32:14.980 under hypnosis, apparently walk the class, the rest of the class through their traumatic
01:32:21.740 events that actually occurred in their life.
01:32:24.280 And so meaning like the death of a loved one, things of that nature.
01:32:28.120 So one of which was a black student who had to walk everyone through the death of his younger
01:32:35.420 brother from cancer.
01:32:37.140 And they even went and used his, wherever he was at, his burial plot, right?
01:32:46.140 As a teaching tool, right?
01:32:47.920 So they took, on a field trip, they take the entire class down to have him present to them
01:32:54.120 his dead brother's burial plot, right?
01:32:57.520 And tell the story then.
01:32:59.560 And the teacher himself says, we're going to utilize it as a teaching tool.
01:33:03.240 They're taking kindergartners.
01:33:05.680 I mean, it's effectively, you know, this applied to as young as five years old, you know, are
01:33:12.180 going to funeral homes, being showed bodies at, dead bodies at morgues, right?
01:33:19.620 Oh, having to write their own obituary.
01:33:24.740 Wait, wait, as young as what?
01:33:27.500 Say again?
01:33:28.660 As young as what?
01:33:29.980 As young as kindergarten, five years of age, which is fascinating.
01:33:33.900 I think I would, I would assault the teacher.
01:33:38.180 Absolutely.
01:33:38.620 I probably would assault the teacher.
01:33:39.780 I don't think there's any way around that.
01:33:41.060 I would go, you made my five-year-old write an obituary.
01:33:45.600 I'm going to have to kill you now.
01:33:48.340 Oh, that is just bizarre.
01:33:50.660 I mean, I have a video I got to show you guys.
01:33:52.900 Like it's about the death education course.
01:33:56.040 And I didn't mean to step on either top.
01:33:58.560 No, no, no.
01:33:59.460 We're just talking about how, I don't know.
01:34:02.180 Is it better to do that or trans your kid?
01:34:03.800 Probably that, you know, right.
01:34:06.720 But I will say that, you know, they, they were legitimately having them, having them present
01:34:14.280 and will write about, let's say that they died at an early age, right?
01:34:19.980 So they, they would say that, that some of the students even balked at the idea and resisted
01:34:25.280 saying that they wanted to live a long life, right?
01:34:28.100 And they didn't appreciate having to write about dying as, you know, like in the current
01:34:33.740 moment and which is very strange, but, but again, this comes in the form of, of the death
01:34:41.260 education program that even there was a, a 2020, right?
01:34:46.560 An actual, I found it crazy because there was a special report that was filmed at Columbine
01:34:52.720 High School in 1990.
01:34:54.540 So we're talking, you know, eight years before, uh, or nine years before Columbine High School
01:35:01.400 would, would, uh, the massacre would effectively take place.
01:35:04.680 You had this death education course that had been longstanding.
01:35:08.980 And, and even, uh, as far as the curriculum itself, you had a, a victim's advocate who was
01:35:15.780 by the name of, uh, uh, Ron Onye, I believe it's his name.
01:35:19.760 Um, and basically he mentions the theory that Columbine was itself an experiment as I had,
01:35:25.340 uh, uh, sort of alluded to earlier.
01:35:27.700 And so he pointed out the 2020 ABC program about the school's death education program,
01:35:33.460 whose activities even included taking kids to the funeral homes to watch the bodies get
01:35:38.440 cremated.
01:35:39.440 All right.
01:35:40.400 Yeah.
01:35:41.320 Uh, and, and, um, also this is fascinating stuff, man.
01:35:45.620 There, there was a student by the name of Tara Becker and, uh, and Tara Becker was a student
01:35:50.780 from Columbine High School who attended this pro family conference in Colorado to tell, uh,
01:35:56.400 all the attendees about this death education at the school and the effect that it had on
01:36:00.900 her.
01:36:01.500 So she allegedly was talking about how she, once she carried a booklet from her, uh, experience
01:36:08.760 in the course, it was called masquerade and it was full of subliminal pictures and prose.
01:36:14.300 And, uh, this is, uh, as far as how Tara explained, she had been taught to use the hidden double
01:36:21.340 meaning of subliminals and how she had focused so much of her time and attention on death that
01:36:27.220 she herself had tried to commit suicide.
01:36:29.740 So see, that's my, that was my thinking on it too, was like if, when you hyper fixate on
01:36:35.420 a thing, you know, new agers, uh, we'll call it like manifestation for example.
01:36:40.040 But, uh, um, you know, definitely the idea of focusing on, and then this goes back to
01:36:47.540 the Marsinski story, right?
01:36:49.000 With, uh, with these people.
01:36:51.040 So, uh, I could, we probably, we're about to bring them up earlier in the show and now
01:36:55.900 it's surprising that we're going to bring them up now, but we talked to a clinical psychologist
01:36:58.980 who deals with schizophrenics.
01:37:00.560 And one of the stories that he told us was that there was this, uh, schizophrenic woman sitting
01:37:04.540 in an emergency room, I believe, and it was a doctor was coming out and giving diagnoses
01:37:08.900 to, to people or not an emergency room, but whatever.
01:37:12.400 And, um, and as he was giving these diagnoses to, to the patients, um, she in her schizophrenic
01:37:21.020 state was watching these, uh, these spirits that look like slimy black frogs come out of
01:37:27.500 the doctor's mouth and glom on to the recipient of the diagnosis.
01:37:30.800 And, and so Marsinski, we, we talked to him a little bit about it and it, we started going
01:37:36.760 down this conversation about what happens.
01:37:39.360 Just think about, you know, remove the spiritual aspect about it.
01:37:42.300 What happens when you're dealing with the placebo effect, right?
01:37:46.760 That your strong belief in a thing actually ends up causing that thing to, to let's say
01:37:52.720 heal you in the form of like a sugar pill for your, you know, uh, uh, uh, ailment.
01:37:57.640 And then you're actually cured of the ailment and lo and behold, it was never real.
01:38:02.240 And the nocebo effect works in the opposite direction.
01:38:05.540 Um, where if you believe that you have a thing, then you might be the recipient of that thing.
01:38:11.560 And so, um, what happens when a child, you know, especially given the psyche of a child,
01:38:19.580 I don't know.
01:38:20.040 I just feel like they have a, they have no control over.
01:38:23.940 Like I remember, for example, when I thought when I was a kid that all of my family and
01:38:27.980 everybody that I loved was going to die one day.
01:38:30.360 Well, that's true.
01:38:31.080 And I couldn't control that thought.
01:38:33.540 It sucked a lot.
01:38:34.980 I remember being in bed and just like spiraling.
01:38:38.540 I couldn't walk it back.
01:38:40.320 This, this knowledge that this was going to come to pass.
01:38:43.240 Um, so you have a child and you're, you're, they're, they're hyper fixated now on death
01:38:47.340 and, and they're watching a cremation process.
01:38:50.020 They're, they're writing their own obituary.
01:38:51.920 I mean, these are all exercises, um, in drenching the psyche in a concept and, and the psyche
01:38:58.440 of a child is not under control by any means.
01:39:01.320 You know, it's like now, if you think about the fact that everybody you love, know, and
01:39:05.000 love is going to die one day, you can at least be like a shit, dude, I got work to do.
01:39:08.380 I got a lawn to mow, you know, whatever.
01:39:09.740 And you can, you can move past it.
01:39:11.520 A kid doesn't have that ability.
01:39:13.060 So those thoughts of death, you're drenching their psychology in the concept of death.
01:39:18.400 And then what happens now you, now you have suicides as a, as a result of it.
01:39:23.260 Exactly.
01:39:24.140 And, and, uh, what's crazy to me is that basically she had, uh, the, so the producers of 2020
01:39:32.920 essentially had found and discovered this girl's testimony is really what had happened.
01:39:37.560 And so that's what led to them actually, uh, uh, covering this as a priority segment on,
01:39:43.580 um, uh, I believe it aired in 1990 and it was filmed at Columbine high school about the
01:39:49.960 death education program, which a special segment prioritizing this as a legitimate problem
01:39:56.080 potentially, right?
01:39:57.120 They're trying to raise red flags, talk about how parents aren't being notified that this
01:40:00.560 is being taught at the school.
01:40:01.700 And, uh, and beyond that, it looks like, um, they held like a suicide talking day after
01:40:08.920 one of the kids committed suicide following the curriculum, right?
01:40:13.220 So again, this is nothing that, uh, it really isn't surprising considering the actual school
01:40:19.160 itself and, and what effectively has happened since.
01:40:21.820 I mean, I was just reading about how it's, uh, there was a grooming, uh, case, uh, about a
01:40:28.100 teacher from Columbine high school this very year in January of 2025 had basically, uh, gotten
01:40:33.960 caught for, uh, along with the administrative staff at the school had withheld information
01:40:40.740 from the parents effectively pursuing, declaring their child as homeless after being groomed sexually
01:40:49.300 by a teacher at Columbine high school who then resigned and moved to California after relying
01:40:55.040 on the rest of the administrative staff to help coexist and, and essentially facilitate
01:40:59.600 this, this agenda, uh, to isolate the child in, in a loophole where they could then, uh,
01:41:06.680 allegedly there's a loophole in the, in the California state law where if you're declared
01:41:11.400 homeless, it doesn't matter what age you are, you can effectively, uh, shack up with anyone
01:41:16.160 you, you so choose.
01:41:17.240 And so this would be a way to, uh, uh, uh, it was an end around, it was how they could
01:41:22.960 circumvent, you know, the, uh, the, uh, kind of, uh, again, it's a legal loophole, which
01:41:28.180 would allow an underage child who declared themselves as homeless to, uh, live at your
01:41:33.720 residence, you know, with no legal.
01:41:36.040 I didn't know that and no parental consent, right?
01:41:39.580 And so that, that all just, uh, apparently they were the administrative staff of the school
01:41:44.800 along with other teachers were helping facilitate this, uh, uh, homeless declaration on behalf
01:41:50.240 of the student to then help move them to California to live with the teacher who had
01:41:55.060 just resigned.
01:41:56.180 And, um, and all that was kept hidden from the parents and no parental consent was given.
01:42:02.140 And so this to me, it's like, man, I, I understand just from my own personal experience from,
01:42:08.260 from my high school days, right?
01:42:10.320 Like pedophiles are everywhere, right?
01:42:12.980 I didn't realize this.
01:42:14.180 I was very naive as a young person and, and, uh, I'm lucky that at least I had some sort
01:42:20.100 of, uh, sense of confidence as, as a young man, you know, that, that I wasn't in the gay
01:42:25.620 shit.
01:42:25.900 Let's just say that, right.
01:42:27.140 And so it was just, it was a little easier.
01:42:28.940 I don't know.
01:42:29.800 Uh, I, I would, I definitely, I was one of those kids that was autistic enough that you
01:42:34.320 don't want to stick anything close to my face, bro.
01:42:36.680 You know what I'm saying?
01:42:37.640 Well, dude, so my thing with that is like, if you look at the social programming aspect of it,
01:42:41.880 so what, what takes place outside of the school, what takes place outside of these,
01:42:46.280 these operations, look at the culture.
01:42:49.400 Um, especially, I think these major city centers got hit with it.
01:42:52.560 The heaviest.
01:42:53.440 How old are you, Austin?
01:42:55.140 I'm 33.
01:42:56.680 Okay.
01:42:57.080 So, so I'm 35.
01:42:58.540 Uh, so then you're, that makes you millennial.
01:43:00.820 Yeah.
01:43:00.920 You're millennial, right?
01:43:01.580 Technically speaking, I think, um, 92 February 92.
01:43:05.840 Yeah.
01:43:06.000 So then, so, so millennial.
01:43:07.820 So, um, what we were subjected to was this rampant, um, attempt from all different media
01:43:17.680 angles to destroy the relationship between child and parent.
01:43:22.540 So it wasn't just like this rebellious thing.
01:43:25.640 It was like, let's say like emo music and pop and things like that.
01:43:29.700 And, and, and, and, you know, grunge, et cetera.
01:43:32.700 So much of the, and I saw people fall victim to this that I know personally, it became trendy
01:43:38.700 to not just like rebel against your parents.
01:43:41.300 I mean, obviously, right.
01:43:42.120 Uh, the eighties got that in a big way and it was happening before that.
01:43:46.540 Um, but, but our generation really honed in on it.
01:43:52.660 It was trendy to, to dislike your parents, to, to, to, to hate your parents.
01:43:58.540 And, um, and you know, I, I think so much of this kind of crap, like I was listening to,
01:44:05.160 uh, green day and this is actually really interesting because green day and suicide, um, particularly
01:44:13.540 in the album, American idiot, where the lead singer who hates Americans, by the way, what's
01:44:20.440 his name?
01:44:20.880 I forget what his name is.
01:44:22.020 Billy something.
01:44:22.720 Billy.
01:44:23.680 Yeah.
01:44:24.180 So, so he, he creates this character.
01:44:27.580 I guess he knew at some point he wanted to make this a play, uh, of St. Jimmy and St.
01:44:32.480 Jimmy is like this saint of lost.
01:44:34.820 He's like the patron of lost children who, uh, has some sort of an affinity for suicide.
01:44:40.860 Um, and, and the, and the, he's the saint of children who have been like the relationship
01:44:47.420 with their parents has fallen apart, fallen apart.
01:44:49.320 And they're engaged in this rebellious drug, drug, you know, use and addiction and things
01:44:54.520 like that.
01:44:55.300 And I'm listening to this album because when I was a kid, I spent some time with my cousin
01:44:59.740 over the holiday and he had given me this album when I was younger and it changed like
01:45:05.340 my musical taste, uh, you know, got me into, I guess like rock and all alternative music
01:45:11.660 in a big way where I was previously into hip hop.
01:45:14.100 And, and I'm listening to this album and I'm going, holy shit, dude.
01:45:17.340 If you think about the lyrics of the album, American idiot, which was highly commercialized,
01:45:22.880 highly pop punk, you know, people hated that album.
01:45:25.380 They said it was a real departure from their early roots as every, you know, rock band is,
01:45:29.340 is a victim of that sort of a narrative, but, um, it was, it was programming.
01:45:37.420 Uh, and I don't know to what degree the homosexual guy that, you know, is the lead singer of, uh,
01:45:44.280 Green Day knew that that was the case or, or what role he actively played in that.
01:45:48.920 But the themes of like suicide and escaping your parents and rampant drug use and living out
01:45:58.500 on the streets and rebelling against the system and bucking it off and burning down your cities
01:46:02.400 and all this crap was all in this album, dude.
01:46:07.360 And so to know that we were being primed with that when we were younger, this is obviously
01:46:13.900 leaking into our psyche and informing our decisions.
01:46:17.200 You know, social contagion is a bitch.
01:46:19.660 Um, and what, what a better way to, to enforce social contagion than to hijack it with an actual
01:46:24.500 operation.
01:46:25.120 But then you look at what the public school system is doing in places like California,
01:46:29.120 where certainly that social contagion is rampant and it's doing all these, all these legal
01:46:34.180 loopholes to once they do, once you find that kid that falls through the holes and is into
01:46:39.840 that system now of, of breaking away from their parents and is into that system of that like
01:46:44.120 rebellious nature, whatever, whatever.
01:46:46.000 Well, we got a thing for them.
01:46:47.560 Tell them that if they're homeless, which so many of them would become, uh, you know, you
01:46:53.720 can, I guess you can molest this kid.
01:46:55.920 Uh, you can have them live with you and legally nothing can be done about it because a homeless,
01:47:00.820 homeless children operate under a different legal system than, than not homeless children.
01:47:05.280 That's remarkable.
01:47:06.680 Isn't it?
01:47:07.160 And, and for it to be directly connected back to Columbine, uh, in its modern form is too
01:47:14.200 much for me, you know, as far as just seriously considering it being a legitimate operational
01:47:20.700 hub of some kind that they can flex and green light anytime they so choose.
01:47:25.680 And, um, and seeing the, the overall just effect, uh, psychologically that the death education
01:47:32.980 program and curriculum had on those, some of those students from Columbine, um, it's sickening,
01:47:39.360 man, to, to actually have witnessed, uh, the parents not necessarily following up with,
01:47:46.440 with what is being, uh, effectively taught at the school itself, you know, that there are,
01:47:51.220 are overexposing their children to.
01:47:53.040 And, and that's something I think, you know, just the level of consent that is unnecessary
01:48:00.620 in terms of parental consent, as far as, again, I think I described it, I described it as public
01:48:07.300 school.
01:48:07.880 This is what I, as I wrote it down, cause I was like, man, it legitimately feels like this
01:48:12.280 public school is the equivalent of voluntarily placing your child into state custody.
01:48:17.240 And I think you need to look at it as that, honestly, at a certain level.
01:48:21.500 And, and, um, and it will only help in terms of, uh, let's just say, you know, uh, manufacturing
01:48:31.320 the proper defense mechanism, you know, to understand what, what threat is truly facing
01:48:36.380 your children, uh, in this environment.
01:48:38.760 And, um, and so, but yeah, it's fascinating to me that 2020 felt the need to prioritize doing
01:48:45.620 a segment on this curriculum at Columbine high school physically.
01:48:49.360 And, and then, uh, for, for Tara Becker and her, her testimony, uh, to, to have been reinforced
01:48:55.760 at so many different levels by other witnesses and other members of, of, of Columbine high school
01:49:01.460 or as just as far as students.
01:49:02.960 And, um, and so, yeah, she, she, in her testimony, she claimed that the subject of death was integrated
01:49:10.860 into many of the courses at her high school.
01:49:13.880 And she said that death was made to look glamorous, that living was hard and that reincarnation
01:49:20.380 would solve their problems.
01:49:22.260 So that in alone, right?
01:49:24.700 In class?
01:49:25.720 In class.
01:49:26.720 Hilarious.
01:49:27.200 Yes.
01:49:28.040 And, uh, the video I actually have has Tara Becker, so you can put a face to it, but, uh,
01:49:34.440 this is the most fascinating aspect of her testimony though.
01:49:38.360 Students were told that they would always return to a much better life form.
01:49:42.460 They would return to the oversoul and become like God.
01:49:47.460 After one of the students at her school.
01:49:50.240 Exactly.
01:49:51.120 After one of the students at her school committed suicide, as I mentioned, a suicide talking
01:49:56.420 day was held and every class was to talk about death.
01:50:00.400 Class assignments were for students to write their own obituaries and suicide notes.
01:50:05.520 They were told to trust their own judgment in choosing whether to live or die.
01:50:10.440 So Tara began to think of suicide as a means of solving some of her problems.
01:50:14.940 She thought of liberating her spirit from enslavement to her body.
01:50:18.600 She says she also wanted to die to help relieve the planet of overpopulation, which is obviously
01:50:26.160 a myth.
01:50:28.260 There, I mean, these were just a few of the insane, you know, notions, uh, theoretically
01:50:34.940 that were sort of conditioned into, uh, Tara and, and other students at Columbine by their
01:50:41.680 teachers, which is just, how is this not, you know, the ultimate, uh, a focus?
01:50:48.580 In terms of some of the, the, uh, let's just say the fallout and the consequential reporting.
01:50:54.120 And, and why was there no media spotlight on this?
01:50:57.120 You know, like that is amazing.
01:50:59.180 Well, it feels like a, almost like a dry, not a dry run, super wet, but like this idea,
01:51:05.040 uh, is you still see this right now, as far as like children and their agency and the decisions
01:51:10.460 that they could make about, let's say things like the fluidity of their gender, uh, which
01:51:14.400 is really what's stuck in a huge way.
01:51:17.780 And what does that all lead to by the way?
01:51:20.280 All right.
01:51:20.460 I mean, statistically speaking, that thing, uh, it only takes a more convoluted route to
01:51:25.440 the same, uh, uh, you know, logical end.
01:51:28.900 But, but now it's been like, it's almost like they saw it was viable.
01:51:32.480 They said this works.
01:51:33.360 Um, and then they introduced it at scale through, uh, you know, acceptance and, and things of
01:51:39.400 that nature.
01:51:39.920 Uh, uh, uh, love is love yada, yada.
01:51:43.220 This is, this is, um, uh, it bleeds all the way into the modern day LGBTQ narrative, um,
01:51:51.300 T being the functional letter.
01:51:53.360 Uh, and it, and it's, that's the sneaky door to the exact same thing, the exact same thing,
01:51:57.980 which is, uh, you know, super high suicide rates.
01:52:00.500 It's absolutely buddy.
01:52:02.720 And I'm, I'm honestly, I think that, uh, it's just, it's so disturbing to see the, the level
01:52:09.840 of conditioning that the Columbine students were, were sort of enduring for, for a decade,
01:52:16.420 you know, prior to the massacre, you know, like that, that, I mean, imagine being a kindergartner
01:52:22.500 and coming up through that conditioning, you know, and not necessarily just all of a sudden
01:52:27.620 you're at Columbine as a sophomore or something.
01:52:29.660 And, and, uh, you have this brief momentary, uh, right exposure, but, uh, at the, at the
01:52:35.020 same point, it's like, I mean, I went to the same school from, I mean, I was in the same
01:52:40.280 area locale from, from preschool to, to senior year, obviously, you know, and, and, uh, and,
01:52:47.240 um, I never actually moved high schools, right.
01:52:50.000 And, and, and the level of really how, how it was a small town environment, right?
01:52:55.980 So it's like, everyone sort of knows each other and, and there's a, uh, reputational
01:53:00.900 impact, you know what I'm saying?
01:53:02.680 But in a larger community in a, in the Denver area, let's say, you're not going to have necessarily
01:53:08.740 quite as, uh, uh, as a, uh, intimate sort of, uh, uh, dynamic in terms of the, the, the
01:53:15.460 parents, right.
01:53:16.780 And even, even, even at our school, you know, where I grew up just because we had, uh, our
01:53:22.940 parents effectively kind of, uh, very much involved, right.
01:53:26.260 As far as individuals who had a supportive parents and a, and a decent, uh, um, family
01:53:31.560 background as far as stable, um, that, that was sort of, uh, I mean, my mom was like the
01:53:37.460 homeroom mom when I was like in third grade type of thing, you know what I mean?
01:53:40.660 So I'm very grateful for my experience.
01:53:42.780 Although I will say the threat was clearly on the table, you know, I mean, many different
01:53:47.480 individuals, uh, would inevitably, uh, you know, endure legal consequences because of
01:53:53.920 their strange sexual proclivities as teachers at my school.
01:53:56.920 So, you know, I had some strange interactions that in hindsight, I now see what it was.
01:54:02.140 And then obviously the guy got busted for being a pedophile and did prison time for trying
01:54:07.220 to arrange a sexual relationship with like a 12 year old, but you know, that is the way
01:54:12.840 of the world it seems.
01:54:14.160 And so I will say that it, but this, this seems far more extraordinary than, than, uh, even
01:54:21.420 what I was just describing.
01:54:22.420 I know it's disgusting thing to, you know, explain to be a sort of, uh, unfortunate reality
01:54:28.140 we face, but death education at Columbine high school, like, I'm sorry, but, but understanding,
01:54:36.180 uh, what would ultimately come of this, right?
01:54:39.080 I mean, 13 dead students, uh, well, 15 technically, including the, the two perpetrators and, uh,
01:54:47.000 and 24 injured, uh, rights as well, which, which, uh, you know, they, they were mentioning,
01:54:52.800 they thought 25 were dead the day of, obviously they had even reported that much, but, um, but
01:54:58.640 still, I think having a sort of understanding and a, and a, and a, and a context, right.
01:55:04.720 Uh, in turn, just having context in terms of the death education program and the curriculum
01:55:09.340 itself, how many were, how many was it?
01:55:12.140 You said 13.
01:55:13.200 Yeah, it was 13 dead students plus the two perpetrators who were seniors in school,
01:55:17.780 obviously.
01:55:18.220 So that's 15.
01:55:19.260 And, uh, these guys were, I mean, just to clarify the shooters and everybody in this
01:55:25.460 class were, uh, in this death education program for the entirety of their, uh, tenure at, at
01:55:32.220 Columbine, because it's not just Columbine high school, it's just Columbine elementary to middle
01:55:35.960 school, then to high school.
01:55:37.580 Yeah.
01:55:38.180 Yeah.
01:55:38.380 So, yes, yes.
01:55:40.380 So Dylan and Eric had both gone through the death education curriculum, right?
01:55:45.020 And so that in itself, they're writing their own obituaries, you know, things of that nature.
01:55:49.720 And, uh, and also the suicide note aspect of things I think is, is one of the most.
01:55:54.780 That's exactly what I was thinking.
01:55:55.760 This is what I'm trying to, uh, paint here.
01:55:58.060 Cause it's, it almost seems, uh, premeditated or like massaged in a way.
01:56:02.380 Well, I mean, massaged in the biggest way, but, but look at, um, so just to, uh, I think
01:56:08.280 I like point and not like, but we have a habit here on this show of pointing out when it
01:56:12.820 leaves the, the confines of like, let's say the experiment and it enters the, the MK ultra
01:56:20.080 free range program thing.
01:56:22.060 Right.
01:56:22.380 And, um, one of the examples I think that probably fits in pretty well here is the string of social
01:56:28.360 contagion related suicides that took place after the show 13 reasons why 13 reasons why
01:56:35.000 becomes, uh, incredibly popular on, um, on Netflix and effectively it's, it's a great
01:56:42.820 girl who is giving you, she's, she, you know, it starts off with the, the, the suicide and
01:56:49.160 then it goes into the explanation as to why these things took place.
01:56:52.760 And, uh, and I guess the 13 reasons are, uh, why she committed.
01:56:57.740 And after that, you do see this notable tick in suicide rates among young girls in particular.
01:57:05.100 And, uh, and it just goes to show you, and I remember hearing about that show and I'm
01:57:10.820 going, this is not good.
01:57:12.200 This is not good because what you do is, um, that that's horrifying.
01:57:17.080 So Panda fly in the chat says 13 reasons why ruin my little brother.
01:57:21.040 He's very suicidal to this very day.
01:57:23.040 So, so that show, um, plays a huge role in that social contagion.
01:57:29.480 And what it does is it, it makes you empathize, you know, if you sit there and you listen to
01:57:34.820 it, you start to understand the why, which I think is, is, is a huge problem.
01:57:40.040 It's kind of this, uh, you know, not the same thing, but when they go through this effort
01:57:44.340 now within Disney to popularize the villains so that you can empathize with the villain.
01:57:50.160 So where, when we grew up, they were horrifying monsters that did horrifying things in the,
01:57:55.280 in the Disney series, well, now let's rewind time so that you can empathize, uh, with this
01:58:00.740 character.
01:58:01.220 And I, and I think that that's a mistake.
01:58:03.140 Um, and I think it's because once you start to really examine the path that leads an individual
01:58:09.060 there, especially an individual who you make likable so that the, the, you know, they are
01:58:14.460 the protagonist, even though they are, you know, a bad guy in so many ways, um, then it becomes
01:58:21.480 easier to emulate, uh, because that's all we do.
01:58:25.320 Right.
01:58:25.640 I mean, especially here in the West, we have a real nasty habit for emulating the protagonists
01:58:31.300 of, of large films and series, uh, especially, especially young people.
01:58:35.340 So what happens then to young people?
01:58:37.120 It's not just in the West as a human beings in general, like story driven.
01:58:40.360 So we need that archetype.
01:58:41.720 We need that story when you flip it on its head, it's persuasive and it's very interesting,
01:58:47.500 but what does it produce?
01:58:49.220 It's like, you know, what does, what does this program produce of having this, uh, introducing
01:58:54.640 children to death?
01:58:55.740 Very interesting to me, but the fruits obviously are completely wrong.
01:59:02.020 And what happens when your protagonist is, is, um, is being championed for committing suicide?
01:59:08.420 Cause, cause what happens in the 13 reasons series is you see intimately how all these people
01:59:13.920 wronged her and then they, they, they make her the champion.
01:59:17.540 And they make her the protagonist, she is the protagonist.
01:59:19.660 And then by the end of it, you go, oh, well, that's why.
01:59:22.160 And it all feels justified.
01:59:24.760 Well, I guess a question for Austin, this program that you're talking about, um, do you
01:59:32.100 think this program leads that does it, does it create naturally the Columbine massacre?
01:59:38.840 Or is it, it's hard to explain.
01:59:44.020 Is it, is it like a completely manufactured in your opinion?
01:59:47.120 Do you think, do you think they had this program running in order to justify and do this massacre?
01:59:53.280 Or do you think that the program was running and then they were like, let's see what we
01:59:57.680 get out of this.
01:59:58.460 And then they get, I think they had specific schools that were isolated and, and prioritized
02:00:06.360 and, and actually implementing this curriculum for a reason.
02:00:09.820 So they could sort of rely on a geographical green light anytime they so choose in order
02:00:15.240 to facilitate and pursue the agenda at play.
02:00:18.360 And so I think there are kind of options on the table at all times, and it's up to them
02:00:24.520 to, to kind of, uh, uh, put the, the proper pieces into place and then activate, you know,
02:00:30.880 the operation, I think.
02:00:32.360 And, uh, you know, many times it's been suggested that some of these domestic operations go off,
02:00:38.580 um, let's just say kind of, uh, uh, in this not so well-managed or designed, uh, kind
02:00:47.820 of way where it just is effectively, um, uh, a sort of, uh, a consequence of the, a consequence
02:00:57.680 of the kind of, uh, uh, just the operational, uh, uh, standpoint in terms of it being lying
02:01:05.000 in wait and, and actively available, you still have the operatives in place.
02:01:09.000 So therefore occasionally you will have these, these selfish agendas playing into when and
02:01:14.720 where these green lights are effectively given.
02:01:17.000 And I think that also plays into the human aspect.
02:01:20.720 There's just the human element of things, but I will say that the, all the strange, you
02:01:25.560 know, circumstances surrounding the, the aftermath of Columbine.
02:01:29.820 I mean, 10, 10 months later, right.
02:01:31.660 That subway shop murder happens in terms of, uh, those two students who were, uh, at the
02:01:36.960 actual massacre itself.
02:01:38.220 And then, um, basically shot gun down in a subway shop.
02:01:42.840 That's, that's less than two blocks from Columbine 10 months after the massacre happens.
02:01:47.120 And later on, it's, uh, it's pretty much proven that the girl herself, who was one of the two
02:01:54.500 victims at the subway shop was actually related to Rachel Scott, who was the very first victim
02:01:59.620 on the day of the Columbine massacre at the school.
02:02:02.100 And, uh, it turns out that this subway shop specifically was all of these allegations arose
02:02:10.120 surrounding, uh, uh, 50 separate cases that the local investigators were pursuing regarding
02:02:15.700 a drug ring operating through the subway shop in the area.
02:02:19.380 So that instantly I thought blackjack pizza is not at all insulated from that.
02:02:25.060 And in terms of what kind of drugs now, this is the thing there's a methamphetamine, uh,
02:02:31.960 a connection to what I believe is one, you have a drug trafficking operation within the
02:02:37.720 local, uh, uh, kind of a neo-Nazi, uh, uh, white supremacist organization of the white Eagle
02:02:43.720 Underground that is, is legitimately in terms of the geographical footprint, they're utilizing
02:02:50.940 this organization to traffic drugs within the area.
02:02:54.120 And that includes methamphetamine.
02:02:55.920 Now I know for a fact, two of the adult delivery drivers at blackjack pizza restaurant were legitimately
02:03:03.540 addicted to methamphetamine and helping traffic the substance as well, right?
02:03:07.880 Illegally.
02:03:08.620 And so this was a drug trafficking operation.
02:03:11.440 And then it turns out that two of the blackjack pizza delivery drivers, the adults who, uh,
02:03:17.820 were working alongside Dylan and Eric at the blackjack pizza restaurant, less than, you
02:03:22.240 know, five miles from Columbine, they happened to be the individuals who went with Eric and
02:03:28.840 Dylan to the gun show with their 18 year old friend.
02:03:32.740 That was a girl, which is how they essentially provided them with the illegal weapons, the obtaining
02:03:38.460 the weapons on behalf of Dylan and Eric, it was still illegal because they were underage, but they
02:03:44.060 effectively kind of skirted that legality due to the 18 year old girlfriend, right?
02:03:49.180 But they were the individuals who, who went with them to the gun show and provided them with the
02:03:53.740 weapons after purchasing them.
02:03:55.260 So it makes a lot of sense that after, by the way, this plays into an absurd connection that
02:04:02.460 instantly reminded me of Omar Mateen and the Pulse nightclub network, as far as, uh, the
02:04:07.300 Michael Sanford connection to, to, uh, the black site where Omar Mateen was allegedly trained.
02:04:12.960 And it turns out that there's a connection to an individual by the name of Nathan Johnson,
02:04:18.240 as far as being a, an adult delivery driver, a blackjack pizza restaurant.
02:04:22.520 So this gave me deja vu instantly, right?
02:04:26.040 And I thought Omar Mateen, because, uh, what inevitably happens is that this guy who knew
02:04:33.500 Dylan and Eric personally lived in Sedalia, Colorado, which is technically the headquarter,
02:04:38.600 only 14 miles from Columbine, right?
02:04:40.940 And was technically the headquarters of the white Eagle underground and the brotherhood of
02:04:45.740 the white temple and the, um, the star chamber, which is the upper echelon leadership, uh, you
02:04:51.020 know, faction of, of that very group.
02:04:54.420 Well, it turns out that they were headquartered there in the Sedalia, Colorado headquarters for
02:04:59.480 the complex, as far as the white Eagle underground and members, uh, as far as the blackjack pizza
02:05:05.380 delivery drivers were associated with the white supremacist organization and also were helping
02:05:10.780 with the drug trafficking aspect of things.
02:05:13.480 So inevitably this guy who was personal friends with Dylan and Eric and worked at blackjack pizza
02:05:19.820 as an adult delivery driver at the time, years later in 2008 would effectively be caught
02:05:26.080 up in a plot in an assassination plot.
02:05:29.620 And he, he consequentially endures, uh, you know, legal, uh, right.
02:05:36.080 As far as like, he legitimately goes to jail for this.
02:05:38.340 And, uh, it turns out that there was an assassination plot against Barack Obama in 2008 at the democratic
02:05:44.900 national convention in Denver, Colorado.
02:05:46.940 And a man by the name of Nathan Johnson was caught up in this plot.
02:05:50.480 And it turns out it's the same individual who's a, who was an adult pizza delivery driver
02:05:55.200 at blackjack pizza restaurant with Dylan and Eric.
02:05:57.880 Now that's too much to dismiss.
02:06:00.220 Uh, if you consider that it, it turns out by the way, he's caught up on these charges in
02:06:05.880 2008, him and his two other friends who were the other perpetrators, uh, uh, they tried
02:06:11.220 to flee from the police and inevitably it turns out that they had direct connections to the
02:06:15.980 Aryan, uh, uh, uh, organization, the white supremacist organization in that area and had been caught
02:06:21.660 with a mobile methamphetamine drug lab, right.
02:06:25.300 Is what they technically had.
02:06:26.660 So it looks like, um, you know, instantly I thought of, as I mentioned, Omar Mateen, right.
02:06:33.560 Because what actually came of, of my investigation into the Pulse nightclub network was there was
02:06:39.560 a cabal essentially that these individuals, these domestic operatives, like, so there was
02:06:44.680 a radicalization pipeline set up online, uh, an Islamic seminary course essentially.
02:06:50.040 Right.
02:06:50.240 And it's a fascinating because this all was set up through a CIA asset who was the former
02:06:57.020 FBI, uh, and, you know, effectively distance himself at a certain point with, with a, uh,
02:07:02.520 a falling out narrative that was obviously fictionalized, uh, for public perception and
02:07:08.500 in reality, you know, it turns out that he has set up a radicalization pipeline on behalf
02:07:14.040 of the intelligence apparatus in order to lure children who fit a character profile into place,
02:07:20.040 who are very suggestible, who are clearly suffering, uh, let's say from an unstable home, whatever
02:07:25.880 the case may be, there are many different, you know, characteristics that fit, but it seems like
02:07:32.680 what had happened is that it wasn't only Omar Mateen. This is according to James Wesley Howell,
02:07:37.320 who, who, by the way, the very same day that the Pulse nightclub was shot up by Omar.
02:07:44.200 Well, there was a gay pride parade in Los Angeles all the way across on the other side of the country.
02:07:49.000 And, uh, and it was happening at the very same moment. And James Wesley Howell was arrested and
02:07:54.840 apprehended with an arsenal in his vehicle and pipe bombs and all these various, uh, uh, tools that he
02:08:01.240 was going to utilize in attacking the gay pride parade when he was under, uh, uh, basically he was
02:08:06.920 giving his confession or, or essentially being interviewed by the local investigators before the
02:08:11.480 FBI inserted themselves in the case, uh, removed all the local investigators from being able to have any,
02:08:18.360 uh, direct contact with the individual James Wesley Howell. And, um, but before they involved
02:08:24.600 themselves, there was, uh, uh, a local reporter who, who went and actually discussed, uh, this with
02:08:30.200 him at length. And she was a woman and he actually was very strangely, like sexually, uh, you know,
02:08:35.880 he was kind of like hitting on her, staring at her tits the whole time, she said, and things like that.
02:08:40.920 Very interesting the way he was acting. But at the same time, he, he gave a statement right when it's
02:08:47.400 fascinating stuff because the, the guy's basically suggesting that he was trained up at a CIA black
02:08:52.760 site in Virginia with Omar Mateen and a kid by the name of Michael J Sanford. And also Micah
02:08:59.160 Xavier Howard, I think was his name, or it could have been Micah Johnson. Let me look real quick
02:09:03.640 because he shot up. Uh, uh, so he's, he basically, he commits a mass shooting at a, at a black lives
02:09:09.560 matter rally, uh, and he, in Dallas, and he kills all these cops in Dallas. So that was another guy who
02:09:15.000 was trained up with Omar Mateen at, at the Virginia black site allegedly. And, uh, let me make sure
02:09:22.040 it was Micah, Micah Xavier Johnson. Yeah, it's Johnson. So yeah, that guy, I'm sorry to interrupt,
02:09:29.400 but how often does this, this, um, meth angle come up? I mean, you keep talking about it and
02:09:34.600 top and I keep, you know, nodding to each other because it comes up quite a bit in our research.
02:09:38.280 And, uh, somebody from your, uh, YouTube even mentioned the whole Pervitin aspect,
02:09:43.640 which plays a huge role in, in, in Hitler's legacy. And, uh, Dr. Marzinski, the gentleman
02:09:49.800 that we mentioned before had said that in his experience, the number one thing that emulates
02:09:54.120 most of the symptoms of, uh, uh, schizophrenia is methamphetamine. He says that it seems to open
02:10:00.680 a spiritual doorway and that these things just come flooding through, uh, maybe cues you into a
02:10:05.480 certain frequency where you're susceptible by, uh, entities outside of yourself. And once again,
02:10:10.920 just to bring it back to that kind of free range aspect that we always talk about, I think about
02:10:15.480 the prevalence of, um, Adderall within the, the, the, um, the, you know, the diagnosis of ADHD and
02:10:22.760 the prescription to children specifically and, and children often being fodder for these, um, these
02:10:29.240 programs. And I look at SSRIs as, okay, well, there's your disassociative aspect, right?
02:10:34.920 But then you look at Adderall and is that your amphetamine aspect that allows children to,
02:10:39.960 you know, uh, maybe cue into a different aspect of what they were looking into?
02:10:44.280 Right. Yeah. And it was, it was definitely, I think that, uh, you know, just understanding that
02:10:51.240 the, well, first of all, I will say that methamphetamine does open these potential gateways
02:10:57.320 in terms of, you know, this flooding in of these, these sort of, I think the alters is almost like
02:11:03.160 how you activate you utilizing, uh, you know, uh, a methamphetamine based, uh, you know, sort of,
02:11:10.360 uh, um, pharmaceutical product or agent of some kind, let's say even Adderall, you know,
02:11:15.320 I think it's, it's very interesting how much it sort of accesses that speed based schizophrenic,
02:11:21.720 uh, you know, uh, a pathway almost in a way, right. Where, where I could see it far more just being,
02:11:28.840 open and suggestible, you know, in, in terms of, uh, what methamphetamine might, might, uh,
02:11:34.520 offer in terms of the, the kind of, uh, chemical reaction in the brain. But at the same time,
02:11:40.840 I think it's important to mention that obviously Eric Harris was subscribed, uh, um, Lovix, I believe,
02:11:47.480 was, was the, uh, antidepressant, right. Which, uh, was, was basically, um, I believe, uh, kept,
02:11:56.040 all that information was withheld from the parents of the victims as well, which I find very
02:12:01.160 interesting, especially considering that you had the, uh, parents of the victims actually sue,
02:12:06.840 you know, the, uh, um, uh, not only the authorities in the local Jefferson County Police Department,
02:12:13.480 but also they sued a pharmaceutical company. And I believe that provided Eric with the antidepressants,
02:12:20.760 right. Which, uh, again, Lubbock's is the exact same antidepressant that Adam Lanza was on and,
02:12:25.560 and James Holmes was on. Uh, so it does stand to reason that, that this provides them with some
02:12:31.240 sort of a pharmaceutical agent that will help remain at least keep them in a sort of dissociative
02:12:36.440 state or, or, uh, in, in a certain way, which is what I think happens to them, unfortunately,
02:12:41.240 throughout the, I think it's like they, they're programmed with this thing, you know,
02:12:45.400 maybe a prolonged version of it. Um, and then when it comes time to do the deed, the disassociatives,
02:12:50.920 uh, they allow, you know, whatever feelings of morality would typically get in the way,
02:12:56.600 um, you know, of, of committing acts of atrocity that they're not there anymore. You don't really
02:13:01.560 feel them. So it's an elongated process. Maybe the Adderall, maybe the methamphetamine takes
02:13:07.800 some early role in these things, gaining access to the individual plus the layered programming. Uh,
02:13:14.280 but then eventually the disassociatives and there's also this, this snapback effect that
02:13:19.160 seems to take place where people will cold Turkey them because they are horrifying to be on, uh, for,
02:13:24.360 for any length of time. And when that happens, there is this, uh, rebound effect where all of these
02:13:31.400 heightened emotions. Uh, so, you know, if, if they don't get it done while they're in the disassociative
02:13:37.880 state, it seems that there's also this proclivity for maybe, uh, bouts of violence after they
02:13:44.040 cold Turkey because there's a whiplash effect with these really charged emotions start to emerge.
02:13:49.560 No doubt. Yeah. I definitely think that, uh, it is a perfect recipe that they're relying on,
02:13:56.360 obviously, whenever they, they kind of green light these assets. And, uh, it's unfortunate that, um,
02:14:02.520 so many of these, I think not only are, are they relying on antidepressants, but even,
02:14:07.960 even benzos, you know, I think are, are very dangerous in terms of, of just the general public
02:14:14.200 being over accessing these, these, these pharmaceutical products. And, and, and clearly
02:14:20.040 it keeps them in this, uh, sort of weak state of mind in, in my opinion. And I believe it is this
02:14:25.560 pharmaceutical crutch at, at the end of the day where individuals can't even function, uh, you know,
02:14:31.640 go on a basic plane flight without effectively going into some sort of a panic attack. Yeah.
02:14:37.960 Dude, this is what gets me about it is like, uh, when we have conversations like this,
02:14:42.440 I'm really forced to look at the entire apparatus of the mental health industry as an enemy. I mean,
02:14:51.560 because it's like everything that they prescribe, every diagnosis that they give, it seems like
02:14:58.280 therapists and psychologists are primarily, um, a selection process for maybe, you know,
02:15:05.240 there's a, there's a giant body of operations they engage in where they're just trying to go
02:15:09.160 through the motions. But I think that at the highest levels, they will find an individual
02:15:14.920 and that individual will flag the system. And maybe the psychologist or the therapist doesn't know that,
02:15:20.200 but once the system is flagged, this person goes into the selection process or, or, you know,
02:15:25.000 is selected through the selection process. And then is, you know, um, they are assigned handlers
02:15:32.360 that they probably aren't even aware of, or they're put into programs that are supposed to
02:15:35.560 be beneficial for the patient, but end up furthering the process of, of, you know, brainwashing.
02:15:41.560 So it's like, okay, the, the healthcare professionals seem to be tied into the selection
02:15:45.960 process knowingly or unknowingly. By the way, little inside baseball, the,
02:15:50.280 the family that has the kid always. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yep. Their second son now.
02:15:56.280 Um, Oh, they have two sons and is he, is he also in it? Yeah. It's also in it. So yeah,
02:16:01.640 but they're mental healthcare professionals. And it's just like, now that you mentioned it,
02:16:05.160 I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's what, that's what it is. I mean, when I went through the grinder,
02:16:10.200 what are the odds pretty astronomical? Actually, when I went through the grinder,
02:16:14.360 they, they hit me with the amphetamines and all that other shit. And I mean, it's, it just seems like,
02:16:19.000 um, what we have, we've, we've clung to it and we'll say things like we have a mental health
02:16:24.680 crisis here in America. I think the mental health crisis was, was created and the mental
02:16:30.600 healthcare professionals are part of the apparatus apparatus that helped create it. And I don't think
02:16:36.120 that I think we should, Oh, I, you know, I know I, every once in a while you get somebody goes, ah,
02:16:41.880 well, it kind of helped me. Well, I think what it kind of helped you do was not feel the feelings
02:16:46.040 for a little bit while you were going through something very sad in your life. Well, we,
02:16:50.200 you know, God knows we all have sad things that happen in our lives. I don't think that we need
02:16:53.800 pills prescribed to us because at the end of the day, a sad thing's going to happen again.
02:16:58.600 It's the nature of life. And if you don't deal with it, you don't learn how to deal with it.
02:17:02.360 You're going to be unequipped to deal with it in the future. And then, you know,
02:17:05.000 you're going to be back on these pills. So, you know, I don't know, man, I always enjoy talking to you
02:17:11.160 because you have this ability to, um, affirm, uh, sort of the crazy things that we only speculate
02:17:19.480 to, uh, here on this show. Uh, and, and it's always fantastic because I, you know, I, I always
02:17:25.320 look forward, I go, no, when we talk to Austin, he's going to do a good job of bringing up the
02:17:29.960 operations, the names, the dates, the, the, the, the documents that came out of the four year
02:17:35.000 requests, all these different things that show you that it's true. Like all this shit is true,
02:17:41.000 man. And I, you know, we get disturbing, it gets framed so many different ways too. It's like,
02:17:45.560 Oh, we have a gun problem. We have a mental health problem. We have a holdover from operation paperclip
02:17:51.960 problem. We have an intelligence apparatus that is experimenting while we're done with
02:17:58.440 the experimenting phase that is now, uh, treating, I don't know, the American public like guinea pigs.
02:18:05.560 Right. And, and you know, to, to serve whatever ends they've decided are fit. Um,
02:18:12.760 and it's like a, it's like when, when your son is talking about like, what do you think about
02:18:15.880 simulation theory? Yeah. It's almost diminutive of, uh, to describe what we're, we're living in.
02:18:21.960 It's like, yeah, the right, like this is a creation, but then Austin comes and we're, we're kind of like,
02:18:27.160 oh, this is like simulation theory. Austin comes, he's like, no, no, let me explain to you the
02:18:31.000 ins and outs of how this works. Yeah. And then you look at it and you go, shit, man, I wish I
02:18:34.920 was just talking about simulation theory. I know, I know these things. And we talk about it before
02:18:40.360 Austin. It's like, you look at these things for a long time and you get fucking bummed out. Um,
02:18:45.080 yeah, but I don't know. It needs to be said. There's a guy here, John Lissell. Um, and we're
02:18:51.800 going to wrap it up here shortly, but I wanted to bring this up. Uh, he was on Rogan's podcast,
02:18:57.080 uh, with a book about project Monarch. I was actually talking to this, what I was talking
02:19:01.480 with Jose about a little bit. That's interesting. And, and so this guy is, it sounds like he's coming
02:19:06.440 out. He's, he's been on Rogan's podcast and he's kind of like, uh, watering it down. This is like,
02:19:12.120 to bring it right back to the beginning of the episode, the, um, the creator, the creator complex.
02:19:19.000 Yes. Complex. Uh, what is it? The, the influencer industrial complex. This guy seems to be in it.
02:19:25.400 So yeah, again, same, same sort of suspect. The guy has like, I don't know, 6,000 followers on
02:19:29.960 Twitter, but he's got a book that nobody really buys and he makes it to Rogan. And his book is
02:19:34.920 like diminutive of, uh, you know, uh, project MK ultra of, uh, Jesus, uh, you know, uh, project
02:19:42.760 Monarch. Yeah. Yeah. And he's just kind of like asking these simple questions, but, but almost
02:19:47.640 running, running a distraction for the systems that are propping them up. And I'm like, huh, it's very
02:19:53.640 interesting to watch somebody do that, gain a platform, just kind of to cast shade and to make
02:20:00.200 the, make it a little bit more blurry than, than it, then, I mean, then you've been laying out for
02:20:05.000 the last, I don't know. He kind of makes it seem like conspiracy theorists. He used his words. Yes.
02:20:10.360 Are like making a sort of why are conspiracy theorists talking about project Monarch is like,
02:20:16.120 well, because it existed and because it happened and because it's probably still continuing under a
02:20:20.040 different name. And because we have all of this proof and actions and dead bodies stacked up,
02:20:25.560 like pointing right at it. That's why we're talking about disingenuous. He goes,
02:20:29.000 the earliest reference that I can find comes from October, 1993 edition of Phoenix journal.
02:20:34.280 And he's asking, can anybody find any earlier references to Monarch? And it's like, well,
02:20:38.120 no, because it's a different name. Exactly. Get the word Monarch out of your mouth. You wrote a book
02:20:42.200 on this. Oh, well we renamed it. So it's not the same thing. You wrote a book on this. You just went on
02:20:46.920 the biggest podcast in the world about this and you're asking anybody can find you should be the
02:20:51.240 guy that shows people that before 1993, it existed in so many different forms, you know,
02:20:56.120 But if he was that guy, he wouldn't be on Rogan. He wouldn't have a book that was artificially
02:21:00.280 pushed. He wouldn't be asking these stupid questions. He's the guy that gets paid to ask
02:21:04.680 these questions to make this a little bit more confusing to the general public or the people who
02:21:10.200 aren't in the know. So now some asshole will parrot like that wasn't even a thing before 1993.
02:21:14.600 And this is what we've got to deal with. Yeah. Yeah. Right. No, I think
02:21:20.280 just reading through from PSYOP to mind war, the psychology of victory by Michael Aquino and
02:21:27.880 coauthored by General Paul Villelli, that book is the PSYOP doctrine, right? It is the mind war that,
02:21:36.680 that honestly, we should always be aware of because that in itself, I think represents the level of
02:21:44.280 deliberate deception that has been deployed. And, and, you know, in terms of public influence
02:21:50.200 and in these, I don't believe that mockingbird ever ended. I call it modern mockingbird or the
02:21:55.960 influencer industrial complex as well, obviously, because these are viable assets that will forever
02:22:03.400 be, be utilized in this sort of context in terms of having that deliberate diabolical effect on,
02:22:10.280 you know, just as far as, you know, the public perception in regard to so many of these various
02:22:16.600 legal cases and, and just as well as influencing their philosophies as, as well. And I will say,
02:22:23.240 are you guys with us now? Cause I can't, okay, cool, cool.
02:22:25.800 I want to actually show you this. Cause this is like now that you're, as you're talking about
02:22:29.160 this, I'm realizing it's important to highlight it. Cause this guy says conspiracy theorists often
02:22:33.080 reference that CIA, uh, project Monarch, the earliest reference to it that I can find comes
02:22:38.520 from October, 1993 edition of Phoenix journal. One of the journals editors claims to be a nine foot
02:22:42.920 tall alien. Can anyone find an earlier reference? The way that that's packaged, is that not to dismiss
02:22:52.440 it? So what you're talking about right now, Austin is how far back these things go, that these are
02:22:57.960 textbook operations, that these patterns have been laid out and repeated over, over, you know,
02:23:02.840 generations and generations. But the way that this guy's tweet is structured, the guy who's been on
02:23:07.480 Rogan, the guy who wrote the book, he's dismissing it. He's saying, I don't know what comes from a
02:23:12.280 journal. Uh, the Phoenix journal. I don't know. One of the journals editors claims to be a nine
02:23:15.720 foot tall alien. It's literally brushing it away. One of the, one of the editors claims to be, um,
02:23:22.440 a podcaster. You know, it's like same shit. Yeah. It's the same, it's the same technique.
02:23:28.200 It's the same technique, almost word for word. Uh, but it's, it's gotten old. Yeah. It's the same
02:23:34.040 shit though. Same technique, man. Uh, you know, so I just, I got to highlight that because you're
02:23:39.000 a guy that's like, you're going through all of this. You're a wealth of information. Um,
02:23:44.040 how on earth would you be able to tell us so much if this was something that just came up in 1993?
02:23:51.160 It's probably not even credible because there's a giant. I don't know. Maybe he's a giant.
02:23:56.840 But I will say though, that to, to kind of bridge that gap, as far as,
02:24:01.240 you know, the extraordinary nature of these, these, uh, individual assets and how profound,
02:24:08.280 honestly, uh, there, the, the level of connections they have up into this very moment in terms of the
02:24:16.200 prominent personalities behind, like we've mentioned at the beginning, setting the table
02:24:21.320 and controlling the narrative, right? Like that, that is a longstanding strategy and tool of the,
02:24:27.720 the power cabal, you know, the puppet masters. And so in no way is it shocking, right? That,
02:24:33.320 that they would have this ultimate goal of essentially kind of, uh, uh, let's just say
02:24:40.200 positioning those viable assets into place to, to very much. I think, uh, uh, one example being, uh,
02:24:46.760 do you guys know, uh, uh, what's her name? Dana Duda, right? She's on Twitter, right? She does a,
02:24:51.560 Oh yeah. I've heard, I've heard of her. She's pretty great on, uh, she's basically one of the
02:24:56.440 leading experts on the process. Church of the final judgment has done amazing work on kind of, uh,
02:25:01.720 tracing, uh, really, really kind of following that organization into its modern, uh, form and,
02:25:08.680 and the rehab image that it's sort of, uh, benefited from in terms of becoming this
02:25:13.640 best friends, animal shelter society, right? It's like, uh, about the welfare of animals. It's
02:25:19.400 ridiculous because they legitimately, they engage in animal sacrifice. I mean, it's like,
02:25:24.360 it's ridiculous, you know, but at the same point, she, she just sort of exposed, uh,
02:25:29.800 all of the strange connections behind Candace Owens and, and, uh, right. Just as far as like
02:25:35.480 her father legitimately held the security contract based on his resume. She, he held the security
02:25:41.480 contract for Sandy hook, uh, as far as the cleanup. Oh, right. That's not suspicious at all.
02:25:48.920 Yeah. And let's talk about farmer, right? The Lord farmer, her father-in-law who, who's tied back
02:25:54.440 to, uh, the Royal Institute of international affairs, Chatham house and the, the Tavistock
02:26:00.040 Institute. So how, how are we going to be surprised whenever, uh, we're talking about beacons of social
02:26:07.880 engineering and conditioning, uh, right. This is the origin project. And now it's extending into modern
02:26:14.040 day and the same financiers behind funding Candace Owens rise to prominence after her 17 day arranged
02:26:21.320 marriage with a man she never even knew or barely met except at a turning point, uh, event, right.
02:26:27.160 When she received a message and a vision from God to go to the UK with Charlie. And, and then she meets
02:26:33.320 this man, doesn't even have a sit down, uh, dinner with him and gets married within 17 days. I mean,
02:26:39.640 that alone is an arranged marriage, man. He, he, he's tied back to the very same individuals who
02:26:45.720 have been socially engineering and conditioning modern society for generations. And what was he
02:26:50.840 a part of a Christian organization that was trying to spotlight antisemitism and influence Western
02:26:58.040 Christians. This is a diabolical, uh, sort of, uh, in my mind, this is an influence operation.
02:27:04.680 And they're intending on sub subverting the moral values of the West. And, and in no way is a Candace
02:27:11.240 Owens or a Tucker Carlson, uh, exempt from this, you know, and, and, and, and in many ways,
02:27:17.400 the same financiers behind Candace Owens rise to prominence finance Tucker Carlson's new show.
02:27:23.720 So what are we doing? You know, in terms of, yeah.
02:27:27.320 Yeah. It go, it, one of the scary things though, not scary. I mean, I'm happy about it. Um,
02:27:33.960 wouldn't rather be doing anything else, but when it really comes down to it, we're swimming
02:27:40.440 in the same pool as these influencers who are part of this influencer industrial complex, like you've
02:27:45.960 said. And then, um, but that makes us, uh, the opposition, which is wild. And I'm, I'm happy when
02:27:53.400 Austin is the opposition, uh, a little bit, I'm a little bit more concerned for the public when
02:27:57.800 we're included in that, when I go, Oh, we're the opposition to the official narrative that somebody,
02:28:03.400 you know, uh, cognitive infiltration style hopes to steer and disseminate to the public. Uh,
02:28:10.760 guys like us, um, for better or for worse are the guys that stand in the way of those
02:28:15.480 sophisticated programs. What are your thoughts, both of you, as far as just, cause this, this,
02:28:21.240 Brad brought this to my attention on, on, uh, he was just texting me basically about,
02:28:25.960 it was so funny, dude. I actually, I'll read it because it was hilarious to me. He,
02:28:29.160 he texts me about, no, Brad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. This was hilarious, honestly, because
02:28:37.400 just, uh, understanding, right. The value of the Candace effect in this very moment,
02:28:43.000 it is real. Right. And, and so he goes, dude, you can get a signed copy of Candace's book for just
02:28:48.200 under $200. What a deal. And I was, and then he goes, I can get a Freddie Freeman signed world
02:28:55.160 series champion baseball for less than a signed copy of Candace's book. And I said, I said, wow,
02:29:01.640 the Candace effect is real. How dare you question the value of this black intellectual warrior for
02:29:06.600 truth. And then I told, I had to address the, uh, the hilarious viral conspiracy surrounding, uh,
02:29:14.040 Erica Kirk potentially being nine weeks pregnant. Although, uh, uh, Charlie had died 11 weeks prior
02:29:19.480 to that. I didn't even know that was a thing. Well, it turns out it's a debunked conspiracy
02:29:25.720 allegedly. And she never made this announcement. Although she did say that she prayed that God
02:29:31.160 would make her pregnant the day that Charlie died. And then, uh, but either way, keep your eyes peeled
02:29:36.440 because there might be an announcement. We just, but at the same time, it, everything you look at it,
02:29:42.040 it claims to have debunked the, this claim. And, and, uh, but still, I will say that it was complete
02:29:47.720 with a prediction that JD Vance was the illegitimate father and that he would effectively leave his
02:29:53.480 current wife for Erica in 2028 when he, during his presidential bid, I thought it was perfect,
02:29:59.640 but, uh, that is perfect. Right. Perfect. The point of what I was trying to get at though,
02:30:06.360 and why I was, I was kind of asking your thoughts on the, the notion that perhaps Candace and people
02:30:14.920 of the like, you know, uh, are, are potentially kind of setting a pretext there. This is a precedent
02:30:21.320 setting notion or operation of some kind where they could be due to the fact that some of the,
02:30:27.320 the things that she has claimed to, to have been essentially true regarding the Charlie Kirk
02:30:31.640 assassination, various sorts of things that can be significantly disproven, just almost at face value
02:30:37.480 after just digging a little bit below the surface. Some of the things that she alludes to as
02:30:41.800 implications and things of that, they could legitimately wind up being defamation lawsuits
02:30:46.360 in the future and, and could lead to lead to a fundamental crackdown on, on content creators and free
02:30:53.480 speech in general on digital platforms. As well as, uh, we had been talking recently about the
02:30:59.000 pipe bomb story, uh, regarding January 6th and how it was effectively debunked after it kind of took
02:31:05.000 the spotlight for a brief moment, which inherently damages the credibility of anyone who was attached
02:31:10.920 to this story. Even, even knowing that the J six pipe bomb story is, is credibly, you know, sort of
02:31:18.520 flawed, obviously, um, filling in the details by naming a legitimate perpetrator who was a Capitol
02:31:24.680 police officer and claiming they then benefited from this and were essentially rewarded with a CIA
02:31:31.000 position, uh, a few weeks after the event took place after provoking the crowd and all of this.
02:31:37.640 Effectively, that was all disproven and, and, and debunked over the course of a weekend.
02:31:43.080 And then people like Thomas Massey and individual, uh, political, uh, prominent, you know, personalities
02:31:50.280 are kind of, uh, it, it's, uh, really hanging around their neck in terms of the, the affected
02:31:56.520 credibility of some kind, but also it led into the Trump administration, essentially, even when
02:32:03.000 Mohammed bin Salman was, was in the white house with him just the other day. And an ABC journalist
02:32:08.280 asked about the nine 11 victims families and how they're in, you know, very upset that MBS would be
02:32:14.280 invited into the white house. Of course, they didn't mention how they just gave a white house tour
02:32:20.200 to Al Jelani, who was literally the head of ISIS and murdered American military personnel and Marines
02:32:26.680 in, in the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, and was just given a white house tour by Trump himself. And in,
02:32:32.840 has been installed in Syria as the puppet, obviously, but at the same time, I think it's fascinating to
02:32:38.280 see that Mohammed bin Salman, right. They ask about Khashoggi, you know, Adnan Khashoggi who
02:32:44.200 everyone knows at this point, uh, you know, Donald Trump purchased Adnan Khashoggi's yacht,
02:32:50.200 right. Rigged fully with audio visual blackmail, you know, and, and things of that nature.
02:32:55.560 So not at all surprising, but then what does he do? He, he pursues potentially revoking the license of
02:33:01.960 ABC, which probably, you know, obviously that won't happen. I would imagine, but still a precedent
02:33:06.760 setting notion where you're, you're legitimately seeing, uh, an effective crackdown by the current
02:33:12.280 white house administration on mainstream media publications. So not only would they potentially
02:33:18.920 use this as a justification for defamation lawsuits, uh, on a private person like a Candace Owens,
02:33:24.680 who, who is of such, you know, prominence in the moment and setting the narrative and controlling
02:33:30.440 these sort of alternative theories, you know, I'm just very skeptical, you know, and by the way,
02:33:35.720 the, the, the additional thread there and, and, uh, and the mother-in-law it's faster. I mean,
02:33:41.720 the father-in-law it's fascinating that his, one of his, um, key, one of the key members of that
02:33:47.320 Christian, uh, Zionist organization that he founded in like 1942, right. Strange timing. Uh, yeah,
02:33:55.080 it seems to have been and sort of, uh, ideological subversion operation from day one. And this individual
02:34:01.960 rule is directly tied at the hip with the, uh, uh, the same perpetrators who were responsible for,
02:34:08.520 uh, being, uh, um, uh, directly, uh, just say leadership positions of the Royal intern or Royal
02:34:15.480 Institute of International Affairs, right. And Chatham house. So that in itself, you wonder Chatham house
02:34:19.720 rules. And, uh, and the only additional connection though, is that Michael Aquino, right. Uh, his coauthor,
02:34:25.800 Paul Villelli, I mentioned, uh, who helped write from, from, uh, um, what was it? Oh,
02:34:32.520 shit. I keep forgetting from psyop to mind war, the psychology of victory. It's a strange title, but,
02:34:38.040 but, uh, so he was, guess what? Paul Villelli, coauthor of this book who wrote the very doctrine,
02:34:43.720 who wrote the playbook of how you socially engineer and manipulate public perception
02:34:48.200 and stage violent, arousing false flags, right. This is all within the concept. I mean, they're
02:34:55.080 talking about hypnosis, everything it's layered in. Even the introduction is fascinating and he's
02:35:00.200 providing the legitimate playbook and doctrine. And he happens to be Paul Villelli, an advisory council
02:35:06.600 member of turning point USA. So come on now. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So I'm not so worried
02:35:17.640 about the whole influencer crackdown because I mean, I think we're going to see people that we know
02:35:23.560 personally get wrapped up in this sort of a thing. Shout out to Atmo by the way, the fog juice has
02:35:27.800 arrived. Uh, we now have fog juice for the fog machine. Um, but, but we have pivoted and I'm sure
02:35:34.960 you've noticed, um, Austin over the last year, it really focusing in on the spiritual supernatural
02:35:43.720 aspect and trying to lead our listeners to a relationship with God. And I think that the,
02:35:50.040 the, one of the last pseudo political places that I'm willing to even engage with in regards to my
02:35:57.000 own theories is this idea of disclosure, because I think it's going to be very important. And it seems
02:36:02.200 like they're adamant on doing that and that'll become a dangerous place to be, but it's not a
02:36:06.040 dangerous place to be first and foremost. First and foremost is in the political, political espionage
02:36:10.920 arena. If you're talking about that sort of thing, Austin, um, then you're probably going to find
02:36:15.920 yourself in, in a shaky ground. Um, but as far as where we're going, uh, I have been saying for the
02:36:23.680 longest time that politics is theater. It's something that I wholeheartedly believe and I've believed it
02:36:29.360 for a long time. And so I don't spend too much time in that arena. I love having a guy like you on
02:36:34.160 because you talk about the psychological warfare aspect of it. And it's for me important to peel back
02:36:40.480 that curtain to show the audience that this thing that you believe in so wholeheartedly is ruled by a set
02:36:46.560 of machinations that you don't have access to and you cannot see. In other words, you're not going to the
02:36:50.760 booth and changing much of anything. Um, and so that's, what's important. But of course, talking about,
02:36:55.660 let's say this influencer, uh, industrial complex, that's a dangerous place to be as well. Um, but I think you
02:37:02.960 can, you can operate right next to it, which is where we're going to end up operating, I think.
02:37:07.880 Uh, and that is if it is an influencer who is talking about the supernatural, if it is an influencer
02:37:13.980 who is talking about the alien disclosure operation, things of that nature, that'll be a safe
02:37:20.420 place for a while. I have a feeling that after all of our work is said and done, and we've shown
02:37:26.300 people what we can show people, we're probably going to end up about facing straight towards God.
02:37:31.200 And that'll be the last dangerous place to be. Um, but I think we're, we're kind of one step ahead
02:37:38.440 of the apparatus as it closes up on the influencers. And, um, and so, you know, I look forward to that
02:37:45.380 being dangerous when we're telling you that Jesus Christ is real and that he died for your sins and
02:37:50.700 that he is the way, the truth, and the life. And then they send our heads rolling.
02:37:54.200 Yeah. I have, uh, something to share on that exact point. Let me let my dog out just real quick. It'll
02:38:02.420 take me a second. She's freaking out and then I'll come back and get my final thought. Go for it,
02:38:05.720 brother. Go for it. Thank you. I'll be right back. But that, that, I mean, I could see that coming,
02:38:10.980 you know, the influencer clamped down. I can see all that shit coming. Uh, but, but, you know,
02:38:15.740 it's weird. It's like levels of hell that we've sort of like sidestep or escaped in a way. So
02:38:20.640 like comedy, a little bit dangerous, uh, politics becoming increasingly more dangerous. And now we're
02:38:25.640 like, I I'd rather spend my time looking into this, but I think this is the most dangerous.
02:38:30.340 Yeah. I think it's going to be, we're going to, we're going to say what we have to say and,
02:38:33.880 and, and show our audience the compelling, uh, information that says this disclosure shit is
02:38:38.960 gay and fake. And worse than that, it's a dangerous, like soul level, dangerous psyop.
02:38:45.500 And then after that, um, I don't know, I don't know what the, what the next thing that's going
02:38:50.160 to show itself is, but I have a feeling that that disclosure is the big deception. Um, and so who
02:38:56.740 knows what, what lies beyond that? Maybe our, maybe our work will be done and we'll be happily
02:39:00.600 decapitated, you know, uh, and, and, and moving on. Uh, so yeah, it's, uh, but I could see all that
02:39:08.880 shit happening, man. Now, you know, soon, if you're in the political arena, your opposition,
02:39:13.460 you're going to be face to face with, uh, kind of the, the, the Candace Owens of the world or
02:39:19.420 whatever, whatever happened to Ian Carroll, he really fell the fuck off, huh? No, he's still,
02:39:22.760 he's still like circling, uh, Candace Owens. He's just kind of like, uh, playing defense for her.
02:39:28.200 He's doing, he's doing like a, a sort of support role. And it's funny because it's like, I, I like Ian
02:39:33.620 and I like what he's doing and people like, Oh, have him on. And I was like, there was a time when I,
02:39:37.640 where I did want to have him on, but now I'm like, well, we talk about, I think we've far
02:39:42.440 exceeded not, I'm not like, this isn't a pat on our back or a stab at him. I think it's just a fact
02:39:47.740 of the matter. It's a little milquetoast, the shit that he's talking about. I don't really have any
02:39:50.720 desire to talk about it. Okay. So what you got, Austin? You talking about Ian Carroll?
02:39:56.900 Yeah. Just because, you know, there was a time where I thought he was going to be much more
02:40:00.400 established in this sort of influencer community. And it does seem like he's taken a seat back and he's
02:40:05.720 got into more of a support role for Candace Owens. Oh man. Even if we were to talk to him,
02:40:10.700 I don't know what interesting thing he would have to offer. No, I mean, like the only reason I did
02:40:16.160 want to talk to him was because of his telepathy tapes take, which I think he missed. And then
02:40:22.760 after that, it's just kind of like, which by the way, I think we nailed. And if I'm not mistaken,
02:40:28.260 judging by the people who come in here and they say, I found you through the telepathy tape research.
02:40:32.320 I kind of think that we're, we're the guys for that. And I would, and I'm happy to be,
02:40:37.540 because I think we did our research on that really thoroughly. And I think that we came to
02:40:40.960 the correct conclusion and it's something that I want people to find. And now we have the two part
02:40:45.720 series plus the episode with Joe and Franco. And I'm, and I'm happy for, for that because I think
02:40:49.760 that was really important. But, um, no, yeah. You guys introduced me to that, by the way.
02:40:55.680 What were you going to share with us? Cause, uh, we, we gotta, I gotta get out of here.
02:40:58.820 Sounds good guys. And, uh, yeah, I don't know. I was in a weird mood today. I hope, uh, I hope it
02:41:04.900 went well either way. I always appreciate talking to you guys. And, and, uh, I definitely have a goal
02:41:11.360 of actually presenting the extraordinary Columbine narrative that, that obviously the alternative
02:41:17.600 theory that I think is far more plausible. And, and, uh, it, it really, you know, is layered in terms of
02:41:24.980 the, the, the levels of extraordinary connections that I think are still, uh, uh, we should, we should
02:41:30.440 prioritize and spotlight and actually present Columbine. And that is my fault. And I apologize
02:41:35.940 for that because, uh, for some reason I was just very interested in, in going off in the different
02:41:41.340 avenues today. And, and, uh, so I do apologize, but I will say that, uh, you know, we have a lot
02:41:47.980 of untapped, no, it's, it's not your fault. It's just a lot of untapped, uh, you know, sort
02:41:53.360 of still content that I believe is the most extraordinary, uh, kind of windows into Columbine
02:41:59.520 and what effectively took place. And I still think that, uh, you know, the, uh, that Nathan
02:42:05.320 Johnson connection to the Obama plot obviously was important. I'm glad I got to cover that for
02:42:09.760 a brief moment, but, but still you have this, this real incredible, you know, avenue of,
02:42:18.020 of the star chamber and the white Eagle underground and this legitimate breeding experiments and,
02:42:22.780 and Paul Schultz and Belinda Schultz. And, and that I really think is important in order to kind of,
02:42:29.100 uh, present how the network functioned in terms of the internal memorandums that were offered by local
02:42:35.260 investigators who were catching a window into this. And, and that in itself draws the connection
02:42:40.300 directly into Michael Aquino and the star chamber and the, which effectively brings in modern Gladio
02:42:46.680 and the strategy of tension. So in no way, and it helps bridge the gap with that of the blackjack
02:42:52.640 pizza delivery, uh, you know, drivers that provided them the weapons and things of that nature.
02:42:57.700 And then Wade, Michael page, obviously, and then the Todd Blodgett, uh, confessions of a DC madam tie
02:43:02.940 in, which is very important and crucial. So, uh, if we get the chance, you know, we could
02:43:07.940 legitimately focus just on Columbine. If I do come back, that's all I'm saying. I actually won't
02:43:12.520 fuck this up. It's a three part. I don't give a damn. Let's call it a three part. I want to do it.
02:43:18.740 Yeah. Yeah. You know, we have to ask our handlers first. Um, but you know the deal that means after
02:43:24.860 this is over Austin, you go straight to that calendar, dude. And I mean it, dude.
02:43:29.180 Will do. I will. And, uh, and by the way, you know, this, this is a direct line into,
02:43:34.300 uh, let's say you had mentioned you wanted to talk Epstein and, and I, I forgot to, to sort of draw
02:43:40.500 that line directly into that of the Vegas shooting with Jared Kushner and the all will lead connection
02:43:44.760 to the Mohammed bin Salman attempted assassination in Vegas. This is a three part series that we're
02:43:49.980 just going to call like Austin Picard in the theory of everything. Yeah. Cause it all connects.
02:43:54.780 It's a mesh that the, everything connects. It's, it's nothing just, uh, happens in a vacuum and
02:43:59.360 then ends. It all rolls into another operation and another operation. So yeah.
02:44:02.980 You know what Bill Cooper presented this as he, he legitimately invoked the, the rights of
02:44:08.720 Ishtar and Molech and, and sacred sex rights and, and, uh, uh, uh, sort of, uh, uh, ritual blood
02:44:15.300 sacrifice for, uh, uh, the, the sort of younger age group in the springtime effectively, which is
02:44:23.000 why many of these mass shootings happen, uh, whenever classes are, are reconvening or things
02:44:28.540 of that nature, right. Whenever, uh, it's sort of, uh, I, I believe what he was hinting at
02:44:33.480 and alluding to was essentially, there was a way to harness emotion, uh, uh, of the general
02:44:38.420 public in certain, uh, uh, let's just say seasonal applications of how you could effectively,
02:44:46.080 uh, let's just say, uh, uh, emotionally impact, you know, the vast majority and, and sort of, uh,
02:44:54.320 sort of seduce them into effectively embracing and, and really kind of reacting in a certain way
02:45:00.680 as well. And this is Hitler's birthday, you know, the anniversary of Waco and Ruby Ridge. So
02:45:06.240 in no way, you know, and by the way, federal investigators were on alert, high alert. They,
02:45:11.180 they were aware allegedly that, uh, an attack was, was, uh, scheduled to take place on, on the day
02:45:17.080 prior to, uh, the event going, going live. Isn't that always the case? Yeah, exactly. And by the way,
02:45:23.040 did I tell you guys about the, uh, the, you know, I think I did tell you guys about the actual FBI,
02:45:29.000 the head, head investigator for the FBI on the Columbine case was effectively, uh, yeah, his name
02:45:35.580 was Dwayne Fuselier and both his sons, one of which actually produced the Hitman for Hire video,
02:45:41.180 which, which showed Eric and Dylan walking through Columbine high school and then having the,
02:45:46.740 the school itself be destroyed in a bombing, uh, at the end of it. And it was co-produced by the son
02:45:53.420 of Dwayne Fuselier, who was the son of the FBI investigator who was put in charge of the Columbine
02:45:59.080 case. And his other son was one of the first, uh, witnesses on the ground at the school who claimed
02:46:05.400 to actually witness one of the pipe bombs going off and hearing a conversation between Dylan and Eric
02:46:10.020 and being the first to call, uh, 911 at the time, which is very convenient. Um, there's so much
02:46:16.080 more we can talk about, man. And, and, and beyond that, I, I, uh, this DC DC shooting, like what the
02:46:21.860 hell, man, this kid, this kid, dude, he was recruited at 15 years old by the CIA. He was a part of death
02:46:29.240 squads in Afghanistan called the zero unit death squads. And they were, uh, uh, you know, responsible for
02:46:35.300 heinous war crimes, you know, but, but, uh, I'll leave you with this and it's, uh, you guys know
02:46:41.580 how much I appreciate you. And, uh, and really, you know, you had been talking about the disclosure
02:46:47.460 project and, and that kind of sends me off into many different areas. And it's kind of, it's very
02:46:53.200 interesting how much I do believe this has been seamlessly paired with this new age esoteric
02:46:59.520 ideological system of control. You know, that's what I believe. And, and, uh, it's the new age,
02:47:04.620 uh, uh, occult backdrop to everything. Like you said, Blavatsky and all these other characters,
02:47:09.140 like this is the thing that all of these high ranking elites, whether they're political or
02:47:13.880 otherwise are immersed in. And it's the thing that a lot of people who look into this would love to
02:47:18.940 omit from the discussion because they don't know how to place it. Um, and that is a huge mistake.
02:47:24.340 Right. And that is why I think when Serge Monast in Project Blue Beam, I thought, honestly, I,
02:47:31.900 I was emotionally like this, this resonated with me, you know, just reading through, uh, the stages
02:47:38.140 of, of Blue Beam and the orientations of what they, they claim to want to accomplish utilizing
02:47:43.700 electronic and supernatural forces, uh, basically having a, a kind of, uh, transcendence of, of all
02:47:52.000 these, uh, official deities in their geographical locales and having them powers and principalities
02:47:57.920 over geographical locations. Yep. Dude, it's insane how they manifest this allegedly in terms
02:48:04.120 of Blue Beam itself and the use of telepathic hypnosis, by the way, guys, which, uh, is effectively
02:48:10.360 involved with the, um, uh, he, he claims it holds great potential and this capability could allow
02:48:16.300 agents to deeply plant, uh, or to be deeply planted with no conscious knowledge of their
02:48:21.880 programming. And, uh, he goes into very much explicit detail on this is it's fascinating,
02:48:27.760 but the point that he made that I really thought was worthwhile and mentioning that applies to our
02:48:32.860 conversation was essentially comes through, uh, and he talks about obviously embedded chips and,
02:48:39.300 and, you know, all this global satanic forces, right. And, and utilizing permanent psychological
02:48:45.200 disorders and things like this, but he ends the essay by, and by the way, he was killed for this,
02:48:50.320 in my opinion, you know, this guy was probably, uh, uh, hit with one of the heart attack guns,
02:48:55.120 right. Um, which I do believe, uh, at this point, we know we have evidence and records of,
02:49:01.460 of this being a legitimate technique that, that is relied upon. But anyway, so he, he officially
02:49:09.260 acknowledges the cashless society as being, uh, the, the digital monetary system as being, uh,
02:49:14.820 absolutely essential. And throughout the course of, of forcing people to inevitably accept this
02:49:20.980 new version of communism, right. It's essentially how he presents it in his statement, but this is
02:49:26.780 what he says. And I think it's beautiful sentiment. It says the new technology is designed and built to
02:49:32.540 track down and control people everywhere. This technology is being manufactured for a specific
02:49:37.640 purpose and to refuse to see and recognize that purpose, which is to enslave the entire population
02:49:43.960 of the world is to deny the emergence of the antichrist and the establishment of the new world
02:49:50.000 order, religion, and government. If you cannot see, if you cannot learn, if you cannot understand,
02:49:57.740 then you and your family and friends will succumb to the fires of the crematoria that have been built
02:50:02.720 in every state and every major city on earth built to deal with you. No one is safe in a totalitarian
02:50:11.140 police state. And I just thought it was beautiful sentiment because he is without a doubt, especially
02:50:17.340 considering the great sky in the show, the abdication of freedom, you know, the cost, right. That, that is
02:50:25.340 being, this is, you know, something that I think the vast majority have yet to contend with. Right. And so,
02:50:32.260 you know, this is the ultimate agenda of diabolical and deliberate deception, you know, and it's more
02:50:41.800 efficient than any of us could probably quite put in perspective. It's the fruition of the propaganda
02:50:49.320 that we've been subjected to, the programs that were birthed out of World War II, the alien crap that
02:50:55.720 we're being fed and the disclosure that's supposed to come. Like it's all, I mean, I guess it's all
02:51:01.680 coming to a head in our generation. I know that's gay to say, cause everybody's like, Oh, every,
02:51:05.680 every generation thinks that that, but like, if you just look at the progress of all these different
02:51:10.620 programs, it seems that we're coming to a head and everything is converging all at once. And what
02:51:15.340 is the point that it seeks to converge to is exactly what you just read right there. This new religion,
02:51:20.980 this new world order, this new way of things. Uh, and if, and it feels like, I don't think that
02:51:26.500 they labored as long as they did, uh, just to drop the ball at the finish line. So I think we'll end up
02:51:32.140 seeing it, but Austin, um, we got to end it here. And, uh, but I guess not necessarily because we're
02:51:38.460 going to have a part three. So like I said, when this is over, man, um, go ahead and check the calendar
02:51:44.120 and we'll, we'll run it back, uh, real soon. One more time, your plugs. Oh yeah. Yeah. So you guys
02:51:51.160 know the underclass podcast, definitely the best, best place, uh, to, to find me. And then, uh, the
02:51:57.080 Patreon, patreon.com slash the underclass podcast. And, uh, yeah, just, just really don't take for
02:52:03.040 granted, you know, I I'll just say the concept of free will, you know, and, and I think the moment
02:52:09.980 you realize how vulnerable you truly are, you know, is I'm not saying that we're not protected,
02:52:17.660 that there's not, you know, a divine path in a way that, that we can hopefully rely on in certain
02:52:24.440 moments that will, you know, at least keep us rooted in, in the, just as far as the, the ethical
02:52:31.920 foundation of how you pursue these ideas, you know, how you try and just appreciate the people around
02:52:39.160 you and the relationships that you, you hold near and dear to your heart and you hopefully, uh, you
02:52:45.060 know, actively pursue becoming better, you know, at every way and in every level, because that in
02:52:51.720 itself, I think I had mentioned it in the last episode, like it does. I think, uh, the, the most,
02:52:59.760 the most important and profound kind of, uh, really outcome that I've experienced from this process
02:53:07.040 has just been, you know, the, the ultimate level of gratitude for, for attempting to, to really
02:53:15.380 better myself at every level of who I am becoming and, and, and in this active and meaningful way where
02:53:22.240 I'm, I'm, let's just say, you know, hyper aware of my character defects and, and how I affect others
02:53:29.780 in a negative way and hopefully course, correct as much as possible. And, and, uh, you know, try and
02:53:37.040 not be as self-defeating as I am at times, but you know what I mean? I think that's, uh, that's a crucial
02:53:42.460 thing as well to, to, to if, if it's in any way, you know, kind of inhibiting you or, or right, prohibiting
02:53:50.260 or whatever the term is, right. As far as keeping you from achieving what, what matters most, right.
02:53:57.540 Which is just, you know, hopefully trying to be a reflection of God in a, in a way as much as you
02:54:05.200 possibly can, you know, and that doesn't mean in any way you can achieve perfection, which somehow I,
02:54:11.700 I don't know why, but I feel like this is some sort of goal within my mind's eye and why I like to have
02:54:17.500 so much control over the outcome of things. It's just why I do my podcast the way I do. You know,
02:54:22.620 I absolutely love having a finished product. That's like every layer of it, you know, has been
02:54:28.180 massaged and into the smooth rounded out, you know, but, but then it's like, man, this isn't
02:54:33.980 realistic though. At the end of the day, you know, as in terms of, of, I cannot do that exact same
02:54:39.740 presentation, right. And just the course of a, of a general conversation and interaction with
02:54:45.020 individuals, that's impossible, you know, and you're, you're kind of like me. I, uh, somebody,
02:54:49.280 I did like a personality test one day or something like that. And it was talking about like the thing
02:54:53.760 that I thrive off of most. And I think that you probably get this is, uh, you do a much better
02:54:58.340 job of it than I do, but it's like this, this, when whoever you're explaining to gets it, when they
02:55:06.280 understand you go, ah, there we go. There it is, man. I did it. Like when you can convey the whole
02:55:12.720 picture to an individual and they see what you see. And it's like, I'm not asking you to believe what I
02:55:18.700 believe, but I need you to see what I see in order for you to understand the perspective.
02:55:23.800 And once they get that, then my job is done. Then I'm satisfied.
02:55:28.080 Yeah. I think I also a factor of, of, uh, not wanting to be alone in my ideas, you know,
02:55:35.640 and feeling like, okay, you get it. You understand where I'm coming from. Like, that's really,
02:55:40.160 I think, uh, just to feel as if, uh, you know, yeah, I'm not entirely, you know, I don't know.
02:55:47.020 There's, there's this sense of, it's kind of interesting because as much as I myself personally
02:55:53.540 am, am opposed philosophically to the state, man, I feel like people have these, you know,
02:55:59.460 these, these kind of fail safes that, that are subconsciously embedded in their mind's eye that
02:56:04.200 they aren't aware of. And all of a sudden they're just back in that same mode of, of, of fully embracing
02:56:10.400 the totalitarian agenda and, and facilitating it as well. And, and kind of pursuing their own,
02:56:17.420 uh, it's not at all in, in line with their best interests. Right. And, and, um, and I'm sitting
02:56:23.160 there feeling like an, like I'm an alien among anarchists. I'm like, what you guys claim, you
02:56:29.780 guys claim to be in opposition of the state. And now you're trying to use it as a meaningful tool
02:56:34.780 for, for, for solving, uh, the, you know, current structured system and, and, and leading us into a,
02:56:40.120 a more ideal and principled direction. I get it. I I'm not saying that there's no meaning to, to,
02:56:46.820 let's say, uh, um, I I'm not saying that you should give up in terms of if you, you have some sort of
02:56:53.080 avenue to actually creating change. But I will tell you that at the end of the day, I am not under any
02:57:00.160 illusion or misconception that it will inevitably result in a positive direction because I've,
02:57:06.200 I'm witnessing the ultimate agenda playing out. And in no way does the political paradigm apply in
02:57:12.120 terms of the two party illusion. And so that's, that's the only thing. And, and, and basically,
02:57:18.420 you know, also what happens when you, you, you view the libertarian party as a, as a vessel or a
02:57:24.660 vehicle for change. You elect a gay man to, to represent your moral values. Good job guys.
02:57:30.640 That really worked out. You know, it's exactly what it always was though. But yeah, I know that's
02:57:36.140 the meme, you know, the meme with the, the astronaut always has always has been always has. Listen,
02:57:41.120 Austin, I got to wrap though. Um, this has been a great episode. We're going to do it again. We're
02:57:46.740 going to do it again. But next time we'll have the fog machine on. I wish we could have them in person.
02:57:51.440 I know. I wish we could have them in person too. I wish part three was in person.
02:57:54.660 Maybe part four will be maybe part three. I told you I'll be there in March, dude. That was it.
02:57:59.580 All right. Okay. March, uh, first Saturday, Friday and Saturday at six and seventh, we lost our venue,
02:58:05.200 but we'll fix that. We'll fix it guys. Thank you for hanging out. This has been a great episode and
02:58:09.880 we'll catch you again tomorrow. I think we have another great guest tomorrow. I'm letting me say
02:58:12.560 who until then, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. We'll see you later. Oh, I had a problem.
02:58:24.580 Bye.
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